New Rory & MAL - Episode 343 | Not Another One

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

'WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY?' x Rory feat. LEON THOMAS is available NOW https://orcd.co/rorywayaThere's too much going on right now in Hip-Hop. First, DJ Khaled had a monkey wrench thrown in his album release just from one sarcastic comment from Drake on Instagram. Do you believe this album is getting back again? Cause we do (09:21). Our favorite urban outfitter (hahaha) Kith is releasing music now, and we give our take on it (28:50). By the time you're hearing this, I'm sure you've already downloaded Tweaker Remix with Lil Wayne. Of course our resident rap nerd HATES the idea of it, and his dismay gets us into our personal top 5 rappers (35:25). Speaking of our personal faves, Demaris is over the moon about Cardi B's new song with Pardison Fontaine (48:58). Of course the boys have to start talking like they're at the music label and ruin her joy. Rory tries to figure out the last time he heard a Lil Wayne album, while Tommy Richman proves to us that once you go black, you don't go back (1:00:30). Kanye confirmed some of suspicions about AI use with his next album - maybe Druski can catch him mid-rollout for his new reality show, 'Coulda Been Love' (1:13:45). We give our love to Irv Gotti (1:31:20), before getting into our latest voicemail submissions (1:38:16). For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmalFollow Rory: @ThisIsRoryFollow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWayFollow Demaris: https://linktr.ee/demarisg To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So, like, you figure he probably changed his entire set from Mutt Records. is just going to do this just to plug the right you'd assume. Naturally. Right now he's rehearsing. Nobody wants to hear mutt, even though it just. Nobody.

It just entered the top 100 on Billboard. Hot 100. Nobody wants to hear that. But we were talking about that with Dochi and I think that's great with Leon too. I love that the industry is now realizing that post-promotion is so important. Like first week is whatever. Yeah.

Muts's been out for a minute. You just got to keep working a record. Now it's in the Hot 100 as it deserves to be. Absolutely. So congrats to Leon for that being there. The real song of the year. My record? Well, the year just started, so technically.

I don't know. I feel like there's probably been... What's come out this year so far? Nothing. Nothing really. Blick some remix. I hate that record. What?

How do you hate that record? My bad. I don't hate that message. Blick something if you love me, hit something if you love me. Bad not put nobody but your ops above me. Passy princess when I slide through know them niggas ain't on nothing.

Classy bitch. I like a lot over. Does that make you an accessory after the fact? Like, I do feel like if a woman sends a man on a dummy mission because she knows. he has a fragile ego and will kill another man just because she wanted to fuck with that dude and now doesn't want to anymore. She should be involved in the case, in my opinion.

Oh, she will be. Is it a planned assassination? It's a RICO. If you think niggas in the hood get assassinated, let me, no, they get killed. Assassinated and killed are two totally different things. I can promise you none of these blood niggas have been assassinated. Them niggas are killed. It's a difference.

Malcolm X was assassinated. Marluther King was assassinated. Dawson and Jermaine was killed. I think it was just murdered. I'm sorry. All right, Tupac. That was an assassination. He wasn't assassinated, man.

That was street shit. For what he... That was gang shit. What he stood for, yes, I see why people would say Tupac was assassinated. Okay, if he got killed... It was just some gangbanging shit. If Pock got killed at the NAACP, like he was giving a speech, assassinated. Yeah.

On the strip in Vegas, murdered. Yeah. It's a difference. Okay, so I looked up the definitions of the two, or the difference between the two. Assassination is the type of murder that, involves killing a high profile target, usually for political or ideological reasons. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person. So assassination typically involves a public figure.

Murder can be the killing of anyone. I feel like Tupac was assassinated. Yeah. No, no, no, no. That Crip said there's no way a rapper is going to punch me. She missed a very important part of the definition for political. Or ideological. Pock was not killed for no political or ideology.

Gang politics. There's no way an active Crip is getting. and punched by a rapper and living to see the day. That's politics. Or your ideals of the ideals of you can't do this or you can't do that. I feel like that's, I don't know. I'm voting assassination. So you believe Tupac was assassinated?

Mm-hmm. Okay. Gang politics. Okay. If you get killed for how you feel, for anything you say on this podcast, that's an assassination. Because your ideals that you're spewing, other people disagree. That will be an assassination.

I think I would have just been killed. Well, I guess... Don't be at my funeral tomorrow I got assassinated. It would depend your definition of, like, ideologies. Like, if you spilled a drink on me, my ideologies, I don't like that. Now you must die. No, that's not just my ideology. It's the natural order.

You spill a drink on me, you gotta die. You step on my sneakers, got to die. I don't make the rules. That's just, that's the universe speaking. That was in place before I got here. So, I mean, talk to the people before me. Don't talk to me about it. Well, I appreciate that you guys are saying I already have song of the year,

even though you said that and just... new music is coming out. Like, you know, I also want to plug like my peers, too. I don't want to just make it a selfish thing. A lot of good music coming out on Friday. Like, we all have to stick together. Your peers or your mentor because you definitely copy in DJ Khalid. First of all, Calid's not coming out today, first and foremost.

Oh, okay. He dropped the trailer. And DJ Khalid, while I do appreciate what he has contributed to the music industry, has not been a mentor of mine. What are you trying to get at? I'm just saying, I feel like you to R&B DJ Khalid allegedly. So I'm not the R&B DJ. But that's what you're trying to be.

I can see it. You're not singing on that album. So? Exactly. So that's what DJ Calla does. At least Calla got dropped from his record. He writes. He writes production.

What are you a drop game at? Yeah. I had the new Rory Mall drop on the first one. That was like one song. It was the intro, yeah. I'm not really like the drop guy. You don't want to interfere with the art. You want to just kind of just.

I'm going to steal that answer even though that's not true. I want to make it seem that way. Like I don't want to mess with it. Whenever you put art. it's like, okay. Like, you ever seen when people put the parental advisory shit on a beautiful album cover? Like, why'd you do that? That's kind of me with the drops.

But Caled didn't start this shit. Like, Clue's been doing this forever. He wasn't rapping. He was talking on it. Everything recorded. So even though Calid has done it to the highest level, I wouldn't say he would be my mentor in this entire thing. It's okay.

But I should reach out to my mentor because I think he spent maybe a quarter million dollars on a trailer that got taken down the same fucking day. we was in here does this mean I win Friday with the compilation album wars? Oh yeah. Because I was nervous. Definitely. When I was trying to put together my assets for this record that's out today,

then I saw Caled put out a trailer with Mark Wahlberg that was seven minutes long where Caled is running with a suitcase full of money. I was like, oh, I'm fucked. It's over now. Yeah, yeah. You can't compete with that. And then finally, after everything this pod has had to deal with because of Aubrey Drake Graham,

he came through for me and sent the C&D. Sent the C&D through a comment is fucking hilarious. Saying you must mean Drake Bell. For those that don't know, Calid put out this amazing trailer for his next album. He was pitching all of 24 that it was coming out. Clearly it got pushed and he puts this out. And in the little slideshow,

he had the photo of Drake walking out to the stage and photoshopped himself in, which I'm sure Peach did, which is fucked up. Like, whose side are you on in this, this collaboration album shit, with a sign saying, I have two Drake records. And if you guys remember in 2024, he was following Drake around with that exact same sign. So we assume he has two Drake records on the album.

Was that 2024? It was his last tour. That was 23. You are correct. Yeah. For the album in 2024. Yeah. So he just took the date off, posted that,

and then Drake commented, must be at Drake Bell. I think it's funny that he added Drake Bell to him. Poor Drake Bell probably was just enjoying his cereal. So then Khalid takes down this quarter of a million dollar trailer that was incredible. Fucking Eif Rivera, incredible director. Do we think he took it down because of that Drake comment? Because I don't see why you would do that even if you can't use the two Drake records.

I'm leaving my Mark Wahlberg's seven-minute trailer up there. The trailer's nothing to do with Drake. What do you mean? The entire program has changed now. Now you know you don't have two Drake songs. But I can, my album can still come out and I can still keep my Mark Wahlberg dream. No, it cannot. Stop it, bro. You know if you had one of the biggest artists in the world, two songs from them,

and that was what you were leading as part of your promo for your album. And then that artist leaves that comment. Your entire staff is scrambling because you now know those two songs will not be on the album. And I'm willing to guess that one of those is probably the single. I agree with you. I'm sure one of those out of the two was the first or second single. Yeah. But to take out everything from your rollout, like I get taken down that photo of you holding that shit up, but not.

And then even hinting at having Rihanna and JZ features. So that's why I thought it got taken out. I'm like, is that confirmed? That's what I was. Is anything confirmed now on this album? That's what I was like, is that confirmed? So Drake and the Smurfs stepped on Callad's rollout? Yeah.

And you? Well, Drake then. step on it. He just interrupted me. I like to think it was really me once he saw that I was coming with the album. Yeah, for sure. I can promise you it wasn't. It was the Smurfs?

Yeah, it was definitely the Smurfs. They did crazy numbers. I mean, I just feel like as someone that has been part of albums being pushed back so much, I feel like you would check in with the artist once you're ready to go. Like, hey, are we still good? Especially after everything that happened. Two years ago, you're saying you have these two Drake records. Based off everything that happened in 2024, I would,

would maybe just check in with Dre. Like, yo, remember those two records? Like, we still good to clear though? Right. Before I post this. That leaves me to think. Before I put together this budget to shoot Bad Boys 10 in fucking Miami. That leaves me to think when was the last time Cal had actually spoke to Drake?

Are you going to tell us one? Me? Yeah. How the fuck would I know? I would speculate they didn't speak in 2024. Okay. That's what I'm guessing. So off that speculation.

I'm just catching. If you say you're Calid and you don't speak to Drake the entire 2024, do you roll out this trailer and say I have two Drake songs? I would put the trailer film out, but no way in that slide show would I put I have two Drake songs. Okay. I would confirm with that. I'd actually hold that regardless to like use it as another asset later down with a roll. This trailer stood by itself. Yeah.

I didn't need Callet to hold that sign for me to be intrigued about what this album is going to be, especially at this time. Yeah. So I don't know. I feel like that was one of the wildest mistakes I've seen in a rollout in quite some time. And I feel bad because I think Khaled spent a lot of time and money on that. Yeah. And I'm sure he was super excited about it. And then to have that happen.

Yeah. But what's why you need to? You need to triple check. I agree. Yeah. Like, if I'm sitting there, if I'm Drake and I'm in Australia and I'm watching this shit, like, I never agreed to this shit. Not only that.

I haven't spoken to you. And God knows how long. if we're going off for that. It's like, yo, obviously they haven't spoken. You put this out in Drake comments what he comments. It's like, okay, clearly they're not in communication with each other.

I just don't know how somebody like Caled just makes that mishap of, you know, lack of discernment. Let's call it a lack of discernment. And allude to having two. Now, Calid does have two Drake songs. I'm positive he has that. Probably has 15 Drake songs.

Will those Drake songs ever see the light of day? Will they ever get cleared? Absolutely not. I think it's over there. Okay, so am I missing something? Is there a specific reason? Why? I just think so much is messy behind the scenes with everyone and Drake at the moment

that I would probably triple check when releasing Drake. Even French Montana, who has a great relationship with Drake, Drake was like, yo, chill putting out my verse. It's a weird time right now. So if I'm somebody, we don't know if Caled and Drake have spoken, speculating. If I have not spoken to a person over a year, and they had the year that Drake had in 2024, I'm going to,

matter of fact, I'm just going to shut the fuck up. Because if I didn't check on you at all throughout that entire year, that first fucking text of saying, yo, we still good on those records from 2023? I would hope I'd be left on red.

That would be the craziest text messages. I told y'all last year. Yo, hope all is well. I told you, I told you last year Target was closed. And this is what I meant. I don't think Drake is giving a feature to nobody. I don't think anybody gets a feature from Drake.

I think DJ Khalid went the, it's better to ask for forgiveness and to ask for permission route because he knew, he knew if he would have texted Drake, it would have been a no. So I think he was hoping that he could just go along with it and throw it out there and Drake wouldn't say anything. That's a bad call. That's a bad call. That's a wild call. It is a terrible call.

You hoping on your album release? You hope that this thing you don't. Yeah. You can't go off hope and film that type of trailer. You got to know for sure what we doing. What's happening with this project? What a trailer? I pray like the trailer's probably been shot for a long time, though.

Yeah, but you drop the trailer along with announcing the big artist that's on it. This is all promo for the album. Yeah. But you got to, Calid is no rookie. He's been in the industry for years. He knows how this goes. You got to make sure, like, okay, I haven't spoken to Drake and I don't know when. He's had a year.

You know, last year was an insane year for Drake. Let me at least reach out to him and see, like, y'all, are we still good with these songs? am I still good to go with these records? Given everything that happened, I'm pretty sure Drake's stance on a lot of things has changed. So to do that and not have that conversation with Drake, which we know because he responded via a comment. Yeah.

It's like, I don't know how Calid makes that mistake. That's just not something that I expect of Callet. Caled is too much of a veteran to make a lapse in judgment like that. Do we think Caled is funding a lot of this himself over the past few years? I don't think so I think this is all label I think the the label understands

college relationships with some of the biggest artists in the world he's been proven to be able to put some of the biggest artists in the world together on a project

I think at that point when you prove that to labels I think they open up the budget for you that's a fact and I've felt that way especially after the Rihanna and Bryson record

like that's a certified classic record of the last decade and I'm sure brought so much money. And we know for a fact, Calid albums have brought in money. The last three, do we think have brought ROI

where you can shoot? You can even go to your boss and say, hey, are you guys cool with clearing a quarter million dollars for a Calad trailer? Yeah. At this point?

I think so. Which is, I mean, that's not a personal Cali thing. That's a music business thing. I think Caled has to put up a good amount of money himself, which I respect and appreciate. You care that much about your art, put your own money up even when you're on a major. I don't know if Sony is clear in this whole thing. I don't care if you have Mark Wahlberg. That entire cast doesn't mean that money is going to come back

with it. Like that God did verse with Jay-Z, incredible. Love that that moment happened. Do you think that was a profitable record based off how big that budget really was? I don't think so. I don't think it was either. It was an amazing moment and I love Khalid for it. But if I'm working at Sony, I don't know what the ROI is with Cal right now. Yeah. Because his whole entire thing is the A list or shit. And I know it's favors. Like no one's really charging Caled averse fee or anything like that.

But once you, compilation projects are expensive regardless. And even paying out those producers, those splits, even if Sony owns half the master or all of the master, I don't know how profitable it's been over the past few years. Yeah, but it's pretty profitable when you tell it. It's Calid's commercial where he can get brand deals that he has. I think Calid is a great businessman. I think Sony's the one getting fucked in this situation, which I'm all for.

More power to you, Cali. If you sit down with Sony and say, hey, I have two new Drake songs, you think they don't open up the budget for you? I think someone at Sony would say the same exact things that we are saying these chairs now. When was the last time you spoke to him? I don't think so. I don't think nobody at Sony says, acts that.

I think people at Sony assume that him and Drake are in communication. I don't think nobody at Sony said, yo, when is the last time you spoke to him? Are you still speaking to him? I don't think nobody at Sony says that. I think they trust Khalid that he has all of that lined up already, ready to go. I think that they, when he's coming to them saying, I have two Drake songs, I don't think somebody in the office saying, do you? What was the last time you spoke to him?

I don't think that anybody says that. Okay. New theory. Just spinning the wheels as this goes. In 2023, when he was following Drake with that sign at his tour saying, I have two Drake songs on my album, there may be a world where that paperwork was done. And that's why Khalid was so comfortable walking around with that sign. and why he was comfortable putting it in

his little real shit. Drake may be on some fuck you type of shit. Like, I'll fight this to the doubt. I don't care that I sign anything. I'll happily spend as much money as possible for that not to come out, even though I did sign that paperwork. I don't think Drake signed anything.

I think he gave him the records. I'm just off a good faith. I'm trying to give Callie the benefit of the doubt of being so confident in that and Sony being so confident. Like, oh, well, we have the paperwork in 2023. Like, we're good. We'll be fine with that.

Yeah, no. think that it was just on good faith. They've worked together before. He obviously does have the records. I just thought that, I think that Calip just assumed that when it was time to release the project, that Drake would, you know, sign off and clear everything and they would be good to go. But obviously, that's not the case. Yeah. I'm just curious. I think I think I speak for everyone comfortably in this is that Calid does need a bit of a reboot in how he approaches. these projects. What type of reboot?

Like, what does it look like? Just grabbing a bunch of A-listers isn't really working. It's not doing it for you? I don't feel like Khaled earlier on used to do pairings

that we, like, were really into. Like, when you got like, Nause and Scarface, I believe, together, like, there was pairings that we were like, oh shit, only Callie could do that and that's dope that his mind came up with putting these people together.

Yeah, Drake and Little Baby, Drake, Yaddy, cool. They do that on their own. Like, I just think he needs Rihanna and Bryson, I thought was a, especially where Bryson was at that time

was a fire collapse together. I just don't think Khalid does that anymore. I think he goes with the way too obvious A-listers. Keep with your A-list shit. I'm not hating on that. But, I mean,

mix it up a little bit. I mean, yeah, but if it's working. But is it working? I mean, he's put out some, albums that had some pretty cool songs from big, big name artists. If we're talking about, I mean, before, yeah,

I'm just talking about the last one. The last one. Like, Major Key is fire to me. I changed a lot as great. Suffer from success I love. We the best forever. Like, Calid has great albums. I'm no way sitting here.

Even a father of a, how do you pronounce his son's last name? Assad. Yeah, I didn't want to be disrespectful. I loved, from Khalid, Calid to God did, it started to feel a little weird. It's just getting to, redundant and he's a brilliant marketer

so people are going to continue to pay attention but it's kind of a waste. So do we think that Caled completely pushes the project back? Is he trying to scramble to get to replace those two records? Um,

I don't think he pushes it back. I think Caled can, let me aside let me not say easily replace it, but he had two Drake records on God did. One of them he could have kept. It was like an intro that clearly was just left on Drake's hard drive. You could have just left that.

That wasn't worth it. So I'm not saying that these two Drake records that he thought he had were two Smashes. Because we've seen him have two Drake records. And one of them was a fucking waste. And I also didn't like the single. So I don't know if they're the top tier Drake records. I don't know.

What's the flip that he did with the two short record? You mean for free? Yeah. For free is a smash. No new friends. Smash. What's the other one when Drake in 40 got a tan? But then they went back to work.

smashes. Drake and Khalid have fucking smashes together but as of recent like no secret that started God did throw away. Staying alive absolute fucking trash. So I don't, I'm not that confident that these two Drake records

needed to even be on this project. So I think Caled can replace those quickly. I think he could still be on par. Also, this is going to sound crazy as a whole venture. I don't know what the whole feature on the Caled album does anymore. I'm going to run to it. Of course, people always want to hear Jay-Z, but it's not that crazy moment that it was in the past. It's now we even getting, like,

now we know we're getting the J-Shit every single time, but is that much of a moment for the Caled album when they used to have way crazier moments. Yeah, but do you know, the Calid's albums are based on the names, the features, because now you're trying to guess, oh, what does that song sound like he has a new J verse. What is Jay rapping about? Who else is on a song with Jay? Is there a solo J record? He has a song with Rihanna.

What does that sound like? She hasn't put out anything. If he gets Rihanna, that's a huge moment. To me, that's way bigger than anything. But as we're talking about music that's coming out,

Rihanna just teased that she may be on the Smurf soundtrack. I don't know if she's doing, I mean, you guys can give me my flowers on my 20-25 predictions. I think Rihanna's going to tease music with the Smurf.

give us one record this year to make it seem like she's back in the music and then not give us anything else. I don't know if she's definitely on the Callad album. And this is going to sound like, hate, I promise you it's not. I don't know if Rihanna's coming back to music for DJ Callet. I mean, she's, I could be completely wrong and I look like a hater across my forehead when that's a smash with Callet and Rihanna. Put Hayter across the first time she gave Callet a record. Was it the Bryson record? Yeah. That was a Bryson record. And the last time she did a song was the Black Panther 2 soundtrack. I get it with the Smurf thing. And I know rock is heavily involved with the soundtrack.

Like, I see that. I don't know if she's doubling up on the Calid. They have a good track record, so I would like to see it. I'm not sitting here saying, like, I don't want Callet and Rihanna to put some shit together. So does Smurfs get a Rihanna feature before Cali? Yes. Okay.

All right, well, we'll have to see. Either way, they are scrambling over there and everything has to change as a result of Drake commenting must be Drake Bell. So now that one little comment has completely shifted. entire building over there. I think he should have leaned into it, left it up, and then put Drake Bell on the project twice. Like, Drake Bell could have done the interludes. I don't know if that hits the same, but I don't know if Cal was, if he felt like that

would be a good replacement, but. Is there a chance that Drake's fucking with him? As far as what? That, like, Drake's like, like, is it, is there a chance that that's a, I don't want to say rollout thing, but that like, Drake's just like fucking with him. Like, I'm just joking type of shit. Yeah. Fuck, no.

Those songs will not be on the album. No. And that's coming from, I'm asking, is that coming from your, your predictions or insider knowledge? I got to ask what you. I'm never speaking from insider knowledge. Okay, cool. I have none of that, but I think it's pretty safe to assume Drake was not joking. Yeah, like that's not.

I don't think this is a funny rollout. Drake was just on stage with smoke coming out of his back for a three-hour set. I don't think he's playing right now. I think he's actually like really upset. That's it. Nobody. He had steam coming out of him and it wasn't even through a smoke machine. That shit coming out

as bulletproof vest was from his body. That was really like his steam. Yeah, he's not. He's furious. It's over. Anybody that thought

they was getting the Drake feature, it's over for that shit. I think it's smart too. Let's say Caled and Drake had a good relationship right now. Same thing he did with French. I don't think there's a good time

for this verse. Everything I do right now is super important. Yeah, just two records I gave you in 2022, 2023. No, you're not putting those out in 2025. Yeah.

But I think that don't, where you've put out music. I think that anybody in music understands that, they know. Like, if an artist is completely doing something totally different, you haven't spoken to him and I don't know how long, I just don't understand how you just assume that it's okay to just say, I have these two records on my own. Like, you, I really don't understand how Cal and his team made that mistake. I don't, I don't get it.

I think they was hoping. Like, I think they knew going into it, like, damn, haven't spoken to him. It's a little weird right now. he's on tour fuck it let me just throw that out there and see what he says it was like that one time

an artist I hadn't spoken to in a really long time that we did a record text me and said hey that record we did a few years ago I sent it to Justin Bieber I said who

first of all hello how are you it's been a long time no that's not your song you're not gonna impress me with the Justin Bieber I'm putting that song out and yeah

we have not spoken at all what made you think you could go do that yeah it's just it's crazy that Yeah, that was crazy. People that are in the industry. It's crazy to people that are in the industry will make a mistake like that, though.

Like, they know. Because Callad knows somebody couldn't do that to him. Somebody couldn't, like, yo, I got these two Callet songs on my album. And what? We haven't spoken in. I don't know how long. Like, no, you don't. Yeah.

I mean, we'll see. But outside of having to battle with Khalid for the King of Compilations, now I got a battle with Kith today, too. It's like the Friday of Compilations. That's who you should have linked with. Kith? Kith? Yeah.

They make me, they don't even give me the friends and family anymore. I pay full price, but fuck that. Shout out to Kith and Ronnie. Congrats on the new location. That was my favorite

crate and barrel. So fuck y'all. Was I the only one that, this is too local? I'm sorry. Yeah. They move Kith to my favorite crate and barrel.

They got crate and barrel the fuck out of there. Which crate and barrel? In Soho. It's gone. It was the best one in the, in the, Country, it was the best one.

The one right around. Yeah. Wow. It's over. And I love that Kith is continuing to prosper and it's 17 floors, but like that was, that was the crate and barrel. Yeah. But either way, Kith Records launched, which we saw some press release about that before. They put out their first record produced by Scott Storch with Fab and Jadicus video by Hype Williams.

Congrats to Ronnie. I love the record. I think it's fire. I will say as a music fan I was a little worried about what Kith Records was going to be and if this was just a gimmick to make like merch which I get I'd probably buy it too

give me some vinyl kiss shit I'm there but I like the record a lot you can't really go wrong with Scott Storchkees Fab and Kiss so yeah there's no that's a beautiful layup yeah that's that's an easy easy call anytime you get kiss and fab to just you know lay some balls on a beat like this I mean it's not that not that hard

understand. And they're talking about just getting fly wearing shit. Like, there's nothing, you know, that's, that's an easy call for Kiss and Fat. What do you think the first Kith album looks like of Kith Records? I think they lean more to stuff like this. I think they'll probably do some cool shit around like drops, like different Kith drops, release a song with a drop, things like that. I think it's pretty cool what they're doing, the creative team over there. Does he stay, you know, because Ronnie put like a whole thing about how the record came together and, obviously his, you know, him being from Queens and his ties to New York. And does he stay in the New York boom-bap shit with Kith Records?

Or do we think, like, I've seen Post Malone in there before. Mm-hmm. Do you think his investors are going to be like, maybe we should go get Chappelle Rhone? I don't see it. Chapo. I just don't see, yeah, Chapel. I don't see the... Mother-nabelle, I'm called.

I think he keeps it like this. I think he keeps it true to what Kith is. I don't think that he starts reaching for, like, you know, the super... pop acts. I think he keeps it, I think he keeps it, Kith. This feels original, this feels like original Kith type of energy. Fab obviously has a relationship

with Kith. Jade as well, they've done the Nix drops with the locks. Yeah. For all the Kiff's stuff like that. I think that that... Well, with the dipset, it's a little different right now. The air over there's a little different. Ronnie has enough money to get them back together with a feature

for Mace. All right. Because Dipset, we've seen, even them post locks battle. You mean to tell me you think that Ronnie Fieg is going to get Jim Jones and Cameron on a song together with Mace. And Andrews. And shoot it.

And like... I think he has enough money for them to agree to do it. Because even watching Cam Post versus Jim Post versus, they were all not in a great place for verses. They've been in not a great place with so many times. And they have said, we'll just do this because of the Brent. No, no, no, no, it's different.

We are businessmen at the end of the day. We can squash the shit and not, we'll be in separate green rooms. It's different right now. It's extremely different coming out of the verses and coming out of what they're going through right now, two totally different energies. Yeah, man, I've just seen Jim Jones and Compton. I was like, oh, yes. Ronnie, Ronnie does not have, I don't care what you talk about.

Ronnie is not going to be the guy that gets Jim and Cam and Mace on or something. I'm not saying it would be Ronnie. He would have the amount of money. money. I'm saying the right number would get them all back together. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. Jim and Cam are both businessmen that I think we put shit

to the side for, which I think is fine. Like, all right, we're a group, we got a legacy. We can work together for the right price and we'll stay in separate green rooms. Fife and Tip did it for years. They did rock the bells for like six years and hated each other. Yeah, but that's not. They was dancing. But Fife and Tip is together.

They never fell out publicly. like Cam and Jim have. Yeah. This last fallout, this was like very, very personal. Like, it's not... So Michael Rapaport got a hold of it.

It's a little different now. And I'm just saying, I don't think Ronnie is the guy that's going to fix that. Fair. Would you sign to Kith Records? Would I sign to Kith Records? If you were an up-and-coming artist,

put yourself in that shoes, not mall... Like a young artist from New York? Anywhere. Maybe. I'd have to see the infrastructure. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but... Who's doing my...

Yeah, but I'm just saying if you're young and you don't know any better and you just know the Kith brand. Yeah. And they came at you like, yo, we want to sign you. You want to do it. I put an album out on you. I could see a young artist taking that. Absolutely. I get it. But I think every young artist should have. Don't try to pay me in Kith though. Oh, you know that. Yeah, yeah. No, don't pay me a Kith. Don't give me every drop before it drops and all that. I don't care about that. If they're doing the Kith compilation album, Ronnie, I think you owe it to Dixon to put him on there. Shout out to Dixon. Where he worked at Kith, he is, he won what?

seven Grammys yesterday. Three. Shout out the... One of those talented musicians in the industry right now worked at Kith. He better be on that Kith compilation. I would be tight.

And I understand Scott Storch is a legend, but Ronnie, you need some Dixon beats. You might not be able to afford him. You got an album of the year, Grammy. He might not be able to afford Dixon, but he has Scott Storch. But Scott, like, the debt that he's in,

Scott is like... Oh, yeah, you're talking about something totally different. now. I'm not getting in people's pockets. I ain't doing that. I don't know what's going on with Scott. I'm not in that. One of my favorite producers, legend, I watch all his interviews. That's why I know he blew $120 million in six months. Like, yeah. Now, he'll tell you now. Just put a camera in front of him. Yo, I need some money. Yeah. Love to see that Scott is sober and doing much better. And he's, he put out some great music

with Russ. Like, Scott sorts has quietly been working. So I like to see that. Um, we can stay on new music. I don't want to get more like too riled up. You know what? I'm going to get riled up with you, man. I love Wayne, but I don't think he was right for this tweaker remix. It feels lazy. I think.

Why wasn't he? It sounds like a fucking chat, GBT Hot Boys record. I've been telling y'all that. Now he does a fucking remix with one of the original Hot Boys and it doesn't sound right. It would be talking about. It's too obvious. Like, yes, it is too obvious. It would have been cooler with either.

a younger act or all the way left legacy like Annelli or someone like that. Like Wayne features on everyone's shit. It's not that big because Wayne is Wayne and always pops out the past four years I feel like he's had the best features no matter what. Okay. So with all that being said, why wouldn't jello get? It's just, it's too obvious. Sometimes obvious shit works, Roy.

Everything doesn't have to be abstract art. This is my fucking opinion, Damaris. Who are you cursing at? This is my opinion. No, cursing it gets double on the fuck. This is my motherfucking. There you go. Yeah.

Demaris. I don't know. Who homie talking to? That song. That song. I was at death jam and Wayne wanted to get on the record and Jello has $7 million to recoup. It's Super Bowl weekend. Everyone's looking at Wayne for an announcement.

He does the fucking trailer. Yes, it's great. Can I talk as a music fan for once and not a... I know we just went through the splits for the past hour with college shit. As a fan, I would have liked to see some... a cooler look than that, than the most obvious shit in the world. I wouldn't like to see Nelly. Nellie would have been amazing.

But it's weird now because of, you know, inauguration and like, but I feel like, uh, nobody, balls pops voted for Trump for sure. The ball, the ball household is definitely a Trump household. Without question. Jello voted for fucking Trump. Are you kidding me? I take it back, man. Nelly was the right one.

So has the, has the, did they drop a, like, a sample of it? Like, did it leak? No. It's coming up. Well, when people are listening to this, out already. But as we're recording it, it's coming out of it. But I just don't understand how you feel like it just doesn't make sense when I told you that that's the hot boy sound. That record sounds like a hot boy's record. Just the way of how it was viewed of how it,

it was an organic rollout, even if it really wasn't. Like the snippet started in the back of a car with a streamer. Like, it felt like a really cool organic rollout. Like, oh shit, this is actually kind of good. Like, what the fuck? This just feels like a label. Here you go. I would have like a cooler, more organic way with the remix, too. So Nelly instead of Little Wayne? Yeah, I think I would have been cooler. You think that's organic? That could sound like a Nelly record, too.

But Nelly doesn't like make music like that anymore. That's why I would have been cool. I would have stopped what I was doing. It wouldn't have been. I think organic is the wrong word. I think you're looking for it. It's more surprising. Yeah.

That would have surprised you more. The way I was like, damn, I did not know Jello like could make music. I can promise you everybody at that label. Totally happy with him getting Little Wayne over Nellel. Oh, I'm happy too. I'm actually really, really excited. Wayne is going to smoke that. But, I mean, I also could have seen more of like a young boy

or them trying to go with the younger route than Wayne. One of the Y ends? I mean, I'm not going to call them that. You can't say YN? No. You can't do acronyms like... No. Y ins?

He can't say that. No. Wait, what? He can't say the letter Y and the letter N? You know what the N stands for, though. Yo, fam, all right, man. It was like the time I didn't want to say NWACP. I don't know what the fuck the rules already.

That was so fucking ridiculous. It was because you know that used to be Elliott's nickname, but not what it stands for. It was yellow and then that. And I saw MC Search call him that one time. And I was like, you can do that. I think you could say Y in. No.

Yellow. You would say Y in if, okay, so if he was to call Elliot Y in, that makes sense. Actually, no, I wouldn't. I've never called him that. I don't like that. I call him Elliot with two T's. Yo, I just don't know Why in?

It feels like you're getting away with it. You're getting away with calling somebody a nigger. Yo, fam, y'all got this shit got to stop. It's very... This shit is out of... This shit is way too out of hand. It's worse than, to me, in my opinion, of people of color. Because now you're just getting away with saying...

That's worse. To me, that's worse. You're getting away with saying colored people. To me saying people of color is way worse to saying why in. But you know what it stands for. Why? Why? Exactly.

Why you think... I'm saying why does it, why does it not make sense? People of color? Yes. Okay, but then where does that go work? I might as well go outside and start fucking marching with fucking civil rights. If somebody says, hey, people of color over there, what? No, because people of color doesn't just cover black people. That's why it colors all of the rainbow.

No, I know the definition. To me, always felt like a cheat code when people can no longer say colored people because that is offensive. They would say people of color. You're just like reversing. No, because colored people used to be referred to just black people. call them colors. That's different. People of color means you're referring to all of the people who are not white. So that's a whole array of people. Yeah, but Y-N's ain't talking about none of that

shit. Y-N's literally means young nigger. Yeah, but it's not, that's not just a blacks. It's not young black kids. But it's not about who it's about. It's about nigger. So instead of- what if a white kid came up to you and said, what's up, N, and you knew what it meant? Like, come on. Like, let's not- Where are we drawing the line at? What's up, and? See you know, that's crazy. Because that's what that means? I'm gonna be like, what does that mean?

Nigger. And he can say, nigga. That's what it means. Okay. Oh, but you also, you have to understand that you are talking to the person who said that he was okay with people being called niggas. He said that on this podcast. You know where I'm from? Yeah, we know uptown where all the Spanish people say, nigga, when they ain't got no business.

So you cool with that. It doesn't make it okay. I'm not Spanish. Like, what the fuck are we talking about? It's 2025. You can be a man and a woman at the same time, but you can't say Y in? I don't know how those two things. connect.

What the fuck are we talking about? Why? Why did this get brought up again? What was I saying? Oh, a younger gentleman that could have featured on Jello's. That's great. See, that's crazy to me.

A young gentleman. A younger gentleman that tends to crash out and kill people. Oh my God. This world is fucking crazy. Well, yes. I would have liked maybe a younger feature. Either way, I'm here for it.

Congrassy Jello. You would not have liked the younger feature because then you wouldn't to listen to that shit. Stop. You wouldn't have to listen. to fucking... I don't listen to the jello shit

because I think is some boombab shit that I grew up on. I like it because of the melody. That's what the younger rappers do. Yeah, but if he got an NBA young boy feature on it,

if he got thug on that shit, it'd be the greatest shit in the world to me. Thug is not a YN. You said younger. I don't think anyone is. You say younger. You're not listening to one of them little tiny

niggas and him. You're not, you wouldn't have ran to the remix. Tiny niggas. You wouldn't have ran to the remix. Um, okay. Is Gunner considered a younger artist? Why did you put the ER on?

What are we doing, man? How do you turn that shit? What the fuck? I'm trying to sound proper. This is what? Gunner and Scout? It was crazy. Like, what?

I wouldn't want to hear Gunner on that. That's not there. You don't think? Nah, I wouldn't want to hear gun on that. All right. Well, you know what? The person who's on it is supposed to be on it. I will admit that I am wrong in this entire thing, and Wayne is great.

Finally. I have no. your favorite rapper ever no it's not i love way he's not my favorite rapper he's top you're your top five five no he's when have you ever heard me say that wayne is in my top five favorite favorite rappers all talk you've never said wayne was top five do you no that's crazy that he's saying that who your favorite who's your top five um um j nas fonte x scarface no he keep caping wayne isn't his top five he capping farface isn't his top five see i'm not he's not he caping No, 2025, I'm here for the lives, but cut this shit.

Wayne would probably end up in a seven or eight position. Man, Wayne is in, you said Wayne was one of your favorite rappers ever at one point. Yeah, one point. Not of all time. Yeah, not of all time. When I was in high school, Wayne was definitely in my top five and it wasn't even close. When ever in your life was Scarface in your top five? Probably in high school, too.

When the fix came out, when the fix came out, Scarface. Hell, no, man. Stop the bullshit. What you about to tell me about what I listen to? Stop the, I'm not saying what you listen to. I hate people on Twitter like you that try to tell you what you listen to when you was a fucking kid. Scarface was not in your top five as a kid. When the fix came out, he was definitely in my top five.

No, he was not, man. We capping. We capping right now. That shit sounds good. Scarface was not in your top five. I've never heard you play a Scarface song. When have you, we don't hang out and listen to music together. Give me your phone.

Give me your phone. Let me see the last time you played the Scarface record. It doesn't even show up the whole. No, it shows it. It shows recently played. Let me scroll your recently played. So I had to listen to Scarface today. No, not today.

But it goes back. It goes back a few weeks. If you ain't played Scarface in the last two months, that ain't your top five, bro. I don't think that's fair because Rory doesn't really listen to rap like that. Rory listens to more. This is my recent of as far back as it goes. Where Scarface?

Bath Time playlist, ABC Kids. Rufus DeSoe. Hey, now, Kendrick Lamar. Stay Naz. DJ Khalid, because that's what I was looking up. It is Scarface. Chantelle May, Day 26. Reason.

J. Z. They. Lila. Rory. Frank Ocean. Fonte. Black. J. Electronica.

Ver Fonte. Okay, Fonte's there. Well, Jay isn't there. And you know Jay's his favorite rapper all times. So that kind of mute your point. No, Jay's there. Oh, damn. So.

Nase ain't in there. Nase is right. Yeah. Damn. Fuck, I'm trying to help you. You keep on. No, because I want to be truthful. Because I'm over this shit and y'all just sitting here saying shit trying to

make you sound like I'm stupid. No, no, no, no. You have to listen to your top five every day. No, I never said that. No, I never said that. Because my top five, I haven't listened to every day. And by the way, I'm subject to change my top five all So, okay, I'm glad you said that.

So in one point you sat here and said, Wayne was in your top five. That's what I'm talking about. We were talking about that specific era. I remember this conversation. We've come back from D.C., right? Yes. That era when I was in high school, Carter 2,

to the drought mixtapes, to everything he was doing with drama. At that time, yes, Wayne may have been number one to me, outside of maybe banks. So how could somebody be number one to you at one point, but not in your top five? Because I'm 34 and I've lived somewhat of a long life. Wayne was in my,

Wayne was probably number two or three to me at that time and he's not in my current top. Who's your current top fire? I won't say top. I'll say favorite. I can't say top. Top is a big of it. Oh yeah. This is all favorite.

Favorite would have to be Jay Z, Fab, J.C.com, DMX, Nicki Minash. I believe her. I don't believe her. I don't believe you. I don't feel the need to attack her. No, I believe her. I don't believe you. We had three of the same five.

What that mean? that I should believe you because you got three. You don't think DMX is one of my favorite rappers. You don't think DMX is my top five of all time. You didn't name them just now. He did. He named X. He did.

He did. Number four. Mm-hmm. I believe that. I believe X. Jay Naz X. Fonte, you don't believe out of those, that, those four rappers, out of what you know about me.

Fine. Number five is shaky. Number five on your list is shaky. Scarface is not one of your top five rappers of all time. I'm not rolling with that. And I love Scarface, but he ain't in your top five. I think you will put Drake before Scarface.

He's going to put three niggas before Scarface. Drake, Wayne, and probably Fab. Here's from New York City? What are we doing here? I don't know. I probably listen to Fab more because there's more to pick off of. Of course you do. Like as much as, like, I don't really go back to ghetto boys like that.

Of course you don't. Scarface solo. Yeah. Listen, I love Scarface. I'm not in your top five. The fix has such a special place in my heart. Amazing project. Amazing.

You won't hear me say anything less. But I'm just saying in your personal, personal top five. I don't believe. I'm not mad at the attack. But I do think there is some nuance between what you listen to consistently versus what you deem as your favorite. I agree. I agree.

Because sometimes other music is just easier to listen. because like as an adult in lifestyle and like just moving around sometimes I can't always have Scarface like I can't always have G code banging like when I'm on the train or in the crew like some music is more palatable for everyday lifestyle like I could throw on a fad mix tape and go about my day and be great but that doesn't mean I don't value the fix higher yeah X can be a little like X is one of my favorite X might be number two but it he's heavy. It's very heavy sometimes.

So it's not, I'm going to listen to Megan the Stallion. I'll repeat. I'm going to listen to Cardi. I'm not, actually I might put Cardi before Nikki. I might put Cardi before Nikki. Listen,

that goes and changes, but I'm just saying the later half of Nicky's career, I listen to Cardi way more than I do Nikki. At one point, Nicky was number one. Respectfully,

I don't even have Cardi and Nikki in the same sentence, but of course not. But we're talking about favorite. We're talking about favorite songs. Like I, that's what we're talking about. Now who's a better rapper.

Her Scarface. It's just one project. Speaking of Cardi, Cardi and Party have announced that they are putting out a new song. When does that come out? Is that tonight? Yes, called Tudit, and I'm mad excited. What's up? I'm ready.

Ready to Tud it. What's going on? I like it. I like it. Cardi, we've seen, has been struggling a bit to put out a record that connects to make it an actual single. Go back to the party roots. I like it. what, Dirk and Kanye isn't working.

All the big names aren't working. Go back to what started your career. This record is old, though, right? Yeah, it's actually an eight-year record, and parties is saying that he's the one dropping it. He, like, get this off my hard drive, like I'm dropping it, yada, yada. But yeah, it's eight years old.

Even if it's coming out. So this record is eight years old? Yes. What was the name of there? But this is a party's record. It's, yeah, it's a party record with a cardy feature. There's no way that Atlantic is just letting this go for a party. This is part of a big heart.

Hardy rollout. No way. They're just like, yeah, let a Lucy go with Cardi. No, this is a record that's eight years old. This is part of a strategy, yeah.

What was the name of the record they had? That was incredible. Backing it up. Backing it up was fire. If shit is not clicking right now, all right, fine. What was working eight years ago?

Fan, we're not doing this. Why? Any other artists that would do this, y'all would be killing them. A eight-year-old record? If it's a eight-year-old record. She hasn't had a record to connect.

I'm not saying a nice thing right now. No, But I'm just saying. Stop asking for the detox. Y'all been asking for the detox for fucking 14 years. That's not really. People are not really, that's a joke.

People are not, people are not asked. People that ask for it no, it's never coming out. That's why they keep that going. But Atlantic, again, this is obviously a party, right?

Correct record? Maybe he has something coming. I don't see Atlantic using this as a Cardi rollout, a record that's eight years old. There's no way anything Cardi B puts out is not attached to what her rollout is going to be

with her career when she hasn't put music out like that. She's put out music for the past how many years and didn't put an album out. One or two records a year and they just haven't connected. So you think they'll just be like, yeah, for parties album, we'll let a verse go out. Wap didn't connect? And a video. Clearly there's a video in the snippet.

Like, this is a thing. No what I'm saying, Wob didn't connect? Yeah, of course it did. No album came after that. Because nothing connected after that. They thought they banked on that Kanye and Dirk record to be the one. Cardi delivered on it, the rest of them didn't. They banked on that to be the one.

It didn't connect. She put out some cool freestyles. I liked the one. Actually, up came after Wobb, if I'm not mistaken, up connected. Up did okay. Up went number one. Yeah, okay. And still no album?

Well, to be fair, when that was when all of those were dropping, it was a weird time. That was during a pandemic. So it was for a Cardi album, we talked about that before. We back to the pandemic. No, but that's when those songs came out. So it was a weird time for a Cardi album to drop when people couldn't come outside. That was a weird time. That was one of the best years in music.

We talk about that all the time. Not for music that makes you shake your ass. Yes, it was. Okay. So like what you, like, who? We do this all the time, bro. Let's cut the shit. They're not putting a Cardi B.

out during the pandemic. Some of the best music we had. Best albums we ever had. I love what Freddie Gibbs put out. It made sense during the pandemic. Atlantic's not letting Cardi B. put out an album in the pandemic. No fucking way.

And we have had that conversation, Ma's right, so we can move forward from that. All right. For example, the Glorilla and Cardi record. Yes. Tomorrow too. Tomorrow too. Smoke that.

She also did a feature with Lotto. shortly after that when she was doing her feature run. All of that was connected to a Cardi rollout as well. Atlantic is not letting videos and verses just go for the fuck of it for Cardi B. This is part of a Cardi rollout. Let's get back to the basics. We'll give it to party so we actually have somewhat of a cushion. If it doesn't go the way we want, we could say it was just a feature for parties album.

This is definitely connected to trying to get Cardi B to put an album out. They've had a record that's connected before. You don't seem satisfied. We'll wait to hear it. I don't think this has anything to do with a Cardi album. I think it's a part of a rollout for sure. What rollout? We've seen to have number one songs and no album came after that.

What are y'all talking about right now? Okay. Why am I the only one in here keeping a thousand right now? So why don't you think we've gotten one then? I don't know. It ain't because they couldn't wrote nothing out, nothing connected. If your song goes number one, that shit connected. You don't think after up and that momentum and then the dud that the Kanye and Dirk

record was didn't start somewhat of a lower trajectory of what Cardi had been doing. The momentum shifted. And I feel like the momentum has been inconsistent since. Maybe I'm on another fucking planet here. I don't think Cardi needs any fucking roller. I think Cardi is at a point where if she announces her album is coming out

next week, that people are going to go listen to that album and stream that album next week. It's too risky to the points that you've made. She's Cardi B. She's a rap album here and then stop producing. She's Cardi B. Her name, once it's on DSPs, people are clicking on. She don't need no fucking rollout. Let's stop hiding behind this rollout word.

I think Cardi is scared. Of what? Of not. Of people like you. People like me, I want to hear it. You got a rap album of the year off your first fucking project. You had 10 number ones off that shit and then you stopped putting out fucking music like that. So why are she scared of people like me when I'm saying I'm going to listen to it?

Because you rightfully are going to go into this with crazy expectations. And if everything isn't perfect, I'm not rolling out a Cardi B fucking album if I'm Atlantic. But what is the perfect rollout if you put out records that went number one? The music that we haven't heard yet. You have to have the momentum plus the music to match. Because she put out, she put out two records and sales wise, as far as what I know, they didn't do too well. So, but that's another thing. Who cares about sales?

Don't she sold 11,000 first week and that has best rap album? Who gives a fuck about sales? Even though this is Cardi B. Her brand is fucking huge. Her name is huge. She don't need this perfect rollout. to put out an album? What are we talking about?

I'm comparing Doshi and Cardi B is an insane. I agree with you. I'm not compared. I'm saying who cares about numbers. The girl that just sold $11,000 her first week just won best rap album. Who gives a fuck about the numbers? I agree with you. You think the person that's keeping the fucking lights on over there at one point, they're going to risk to just put some shit out for the fuck of it when she doesn't put

out any music. At one point, there's been how many years since we've had an album? You think she could risk a dud? If she came right back with a sophomore album right after the first one, she'd have some more grace in that situation. It's been so long, which is why I agree with you. It's been this fucking long. Where is the music?

It has to be perfect. Her first album was perfect. You wait five, six years. This shit has to be insane. Her first album had a perfect rollout. It was the momentum was insane. Every song is a single. Every song charted.

And not the way it does on the first night when everyone was just clicking it. It stayed on the charts. It stayed on the charts. I like that was on the charts for years. It might still be. Yeah. So, Ma, this is what I'm saying. I'm not arguing.

I agree with you. But what I'm saying is people might be scared of putting music out because a lot of people's insecurities. They might be afraid of failure. We all know that Cardi pays attention to what people says. I can't speak for her, but I would be fucking terrified. And I would be like very, like, insecure. What if they say this or what if they don't like this?

I don't think that she should be. I don't think that she should be. But you can't control how people feel. I'm not trying to control how anybody feels. What I'm saying is, or what I would like to say is, if you have a brand, as big as Cardi does. Cool. You nervous.

You want the album to be perfect. Great. I get all of that. But I'm saying if you keep dropping songs and the songs keep connecting, obviously, going number one. People love it. At some point, it's like what exactly what are they waiting for to put this project out? I would love to know too. What do they need to see?

People are still supporting Cardi. People still waiting for to drop an album. That's all you can ask for as an artist. is that people still want to hear from you and that people still support you. Obviously, when she puts out a single, people still listen to it. It goes number one.

So what is this perfect rollout? What I'm telling you is her last two singles have not charted like that. They have not gone number one. I don't think they went top 10. Fuck it. At some point, it's like, so what that means that I'm never coming out until

we get another number one single? Welcome to the music business. You had one and didn't put an album out. Yeah. So now you don't have one and you still not put an album up. So I'm asking you. What the fuck is the label doing?

I think after Up, they thought they had the momentum because Up did well. Outside of charts, that shit was playing everywhere too. It was culturally cool as well. Then the Dirk and Kanye should happen and a dud hit. And I think that stopped a lot of their plans. And the momentum has been very shaky sense where it's up sometimes and it's low. This is not a freestyle. This is why I hate the music business when the business overshadows the music.

This is why I hate the music business. Because with somebody as big as a brand as Cardi, has a bigger fan base that Cardi does for the label to not or to miss the opportunity to keep putting out an album. And maybe it's Cardi. Maybe she's not ready. We know she, you know, family, she had kids. Like we give grace there.

We understand life gets in the way too. Life gets in the way of art. We understand that. Family first. What I'm saying is as a label, if they're planning on using this eight-year-old party record, as a rollout to a Cardi album, I don't think that makes any,

not an eight year old record. Like, what the, eight years old? You know how much is changed in eight years? You know how much sound has changed? You know how much music has changed in eight years? I mean, from the snippet that we heard, it sounds like a familiar sample

with Cardi rapping well that I'm sure party had a hand in and we've been wanting to hear party write for Cardi for quite some time. Okay, so now, so if this one does, then one. Has music changed much by familiar samples? So I'm asking you, if this duds, then what?

Oh, I don't know. And to your point, I agree. I hate the business as well, but Cardi B is the music business. I'm not trying to take anything away from her talent. I think she has a specific set of talent that is delivery, personality, everything about her is on the record. But let's not say Cardi B is this musician. She's the music business. She is herself, but very much a product of the business taking something that is so organic

and authentic and putting it all the way up here. She's the business. So they have to go by business rules with her. They don't have the luxury of just trying some shit out because she's just some spacey artists that will come back with something new and innovative. She's the business. They have to follow the business rules with her because there's too much on the line. People lose their jobs when they can't get Cardi B to do something. It's different. It's the music business when it comes to Cardi B. It's not music and then business. It sucks because I agree, you know, bringing up the dotry point of, okay, you don't sell first week, you keep post promo and post promo. Like that song that they did bongos with Megan and Cardi, it came out.

It wasn't what people expected it to sound like. And I feel like when it didn't chart or do this whole thing, it became like, oh, that's just a dud when it's like, no, that y'all spent so much money on that video and the song has a great concept. Y'all have to keep pushing that. Like, you have to keep pushing it. So I don't know who's in charge, but maybe they know more than me. I don't know.

Well, or maybe they don't, which is the. a problem. They think they know more than you. Just because you work at LA, but don't make you no more than the people. Very true. I mean, the Grange family is taken over two of three. They must know something. Well, we know something now.

Little Wayne announced that June 6th, right? My favorite rapper of all time. June 6th, Carter 6th. Greatest album series of all time. We are getting the sixth edition. Carter 6th. The Goat is finally fucking back. Number one, not number two,

not number three, not number four, not number five, not six, seven, eight, nine, or ten. Number one. You're going to listen to it? What? I'm not even going to come in and record that day. He's not listening to that. He didn't listen to the last one. I listen to Carter five.

Did I go back to it? No. No, the last album that Wayne put out. You're saying I did not listen to the last album he put up. I don't know. Exactly. You didn't know. Exactly.

So, so Roy's captain. All right, now you concentrate to your point of saying that Wayne is my favorite rapper. I don't know what is the fucking what is last album. with? No, you said he's one of your favorite rappers. I don't, and I'm saying he's not in my... We went to that show at the Apollo because he loved it. One of your favorite top five rappers. You kept yelling in my ear that whole night. That's what top five looks like.

I left early. You stayed. Yeah, okay. What that mean? But you still was in my air like, this is what top five looks like. I'm like, okay. This is what top five looks like. Yeah, that's what he kept yelling all night. Do you know, did anyone see Skip yesterday post on his Twitter yet again a monologue about how Wayne should have been the halftime performer.

Like, Skip, all of us are past this conversation. It's okay. We can move on. It's all right. We get it. Well, congrats to Wayne for announcing Carter Six.

I mean, way to use momentum going into this weekend of something that didn't pan out the way you wanted with announcement. I see what Wayne is doing. Smart marketing. You use this weekend for his own announcement. I get it.

Okay, see. I didn't know funeral was his last album Pete over here giggling I just love how as much more time passes I'm just proven right that he's not my favorite rapper of all time because I would know my No you just said I'm listening to this card six

No you're not You listen to the last album I'm trying to remember if I know any of these records You didn't listen to it That's why you don't know it We spoke about this in private before We're going to do nothing else He'll pull out that laptop and start Googling shit

No, I am. I'm trying to see, because in my mind, I had Carter 5 as the last one. Yeah, because 5 is before 6. I see what you did. No, I'm saying his last album. He put in between the Carter series, he put out other albums. I know. I didn't just go one, two, three, four, five.

I just actually did you listen to the last? I know you didn't because you said you didn't. Yeah, I didn't listen to it. Because I came out and I was like, yo, we're not going to talk about the new Wayne album? He was like, I didn't listen to it. I was like, okay. Did you ever listen to that chance album that you said you were never going to listen to? No.

No, he didn't. He's cat. came in and gave a full review on it. That's what people, I know it was a running joke, but yes, I came in. And I actually think y'all were very hard on that album. Production is fire. On Chances' last album? Yeah.

I don't really go back to it, but. I don't go back to it as my favorite disc. It's not a disc. It's not a dis. It's real. I understand that. Like, more than ever now, like, because it's albums that come out. I listen to it, and then it's like five months go past, and I didn't listen to a song off the album.

Doesn't mean I didn't like the album, but it just like, it didn't really, it didn't stay with me. That's all. Okay. Yeah, I like that. It didn't stay. It didn't stay with you. It didn't stay with me.

You guys had a brief encounter. Yeah, it was like, okay. Went on one date. You know what I'm saying? It was cool. But it was like, I don't need to see her again. You know what I'm saying? It was like, that's cool.

Okay. But there's a lot of albums that if I listen to them at this age that I did 10 years ago, probably wouldn't have stuck with me, but they stuck with me 10 years ago. I just feel like there is also this age gap that allows you to process so many albums at one time. And then like when adulthood really hits, it's tough to have that same process. You only, you can only take a few albums in a year that are going to stay with you. Not only that. I think that a lot of a million blog era mixtapes stay with me. Now, if I was 34 in the in the blog era, I don't know if I could say that all those would have

stuck with me. Well, that's what I'm, that's what I'm getting to is it is a thing of when you, where you're adding your life when you listen to certain music. Yeah. Because it brings you back to that time. So you will listen to certain songs and albums just because it gives us that nostalgic, you know, takes us back to what we were doing 10 years ago, whether it was in college or high school or my first job, got fired, whatever it was. It just reminds you of a specific time. As you get older, time means nothing. What day is it?

That's all it is. Everyone, hold the clocks. I did listen to funeral. And you know how I know that? You went to a funeral? Yes, I've been to a few of those. Hardin on this album, I wrote. ran into the fucking ground. I didn't go back to any other songs. That was like vintage Wayne.

It's all about James Hardin fucking his bitch over a soul sample. Fire. So you ran the Hardin song into the ground. I did. That's the one that's the one that's stuck with you. Go back and listen to that. That's like old mixtape soulful Wayne. I loved Hardin a lot. I think I put that on my IG story a bunch of times, but it was, you know, pandemic. I was now nourished. I didn't know it was a lot going on. It's actually a really good Wayne song. Rough time. Underrated Hardin and go look it up right now. Got you. I don't think it's better than anything Tommy Richmond. ever put out though. That's your god. Where's my fucking flowers? I was right about Rihanna already. Can we get like a graphic and start checking shit off in my 2025? Yeah, we're going to talk about it on

Patreon. We're going to see how you doing. I'm batting pretty fucking high. I said Tommy Richmond was going to black it up for his next single and then he's going to go right to country music. As of now. Age old formula. Now he has women and dubies at the gas station to a soldier boy sample. But he's not a hip-hop artist, not solely. Don't you box it. I'm in. Sully, solely a hip-hop artist. Yes, he's more than just a hip-hop artist. It sounds like I'm hating, but me and Pige were off mic saying that snippet is fire.

That record sounds really good. It sounds like a good Mountain Dew commercial. Yo, you a hater. What? That's big. You get a Mountain New commercial? That's major. Nobody took that as a compliment.

Tommy would. He would, the artist would. Do you like the song? The snippet sounded good. I didn't hear the whole song. Well, it's not out yet, is it? Well, when you're listening to this, it will be out. Okay, yeah.

I heard it. It sounds cool. Peage brought it to my attention, and I was a little nervous because Pige is like, he has a soldier boy flipping there. And I was like, oh, God, here we go again. But whoever produced that, amazing flip. It was a really unique and cool way. I see the formula he's sticking to.

I get it. I see what Tommy's doing. No, our record does sound really, really good. Yeah, it sounds good. It's just, I don't know. That snippet with that visual coming off your tweets. I mean, he just not. He's not solely a hip-hop artist.

That's all? Was he? He told the Grammys he's a rap artist. No, I think the Grammys told him he's a rap artist. There's a, no, no, no, this is rap. There's nothing rap about that album. No, it's because you didn't want to compete with the pop stars, and you thought you could, which I get a nomination if you go in the rap category.

Yeah. But come on, come on, man. Do you think he sent, like, maybe the treatment images for what women he wanted in that video and how he wanted them to dress? Oh, that, no. He might as well said, said Wyand. Like, do you think that's his home girls, or?

Yeah, I think that's the homies. I like the homies. Or do you think that's his mood board? No, that's the homies, man. I'll do that. I'm fucking around. I like Tommy Richmond, and I know he gave him a lot of shit. No, he's cool.

This record does sound great. But I do think he's going to go the quote unquote urban route, which I'm sure they said in the meeting. And he's going to take a left and show his range. You know, he's from Virginia. He has country roots. Like, you know, maybe we'll get.

get a Shibuzi thing just so they can check two boxes. But he's definitely going to take it to outside of the box, as they would say. Yeah, he'll be in Wyoming next week. He went from Wawa to Wyoming. You know what niggas pulled to WaiW to shoot a video? It's like, go, don't, Charlie, that doesn't mean you tapped in because you had Wawa shooting a video.

And first of all, sorry to South Jersey. Wai is the most overrated shit I've ever had. When I got to college, it was like, yo, you got to have Wai. We went down the turnpike. I was like, this is actually a gas station sandwich. Yeah, it tastes a gas station. Yeah. I thought you guys were about to tell me like, no, don't get it fucked up.

It's a gas station, but they got the sandwiches. No, this is a gas station sandwich. Why did I... It's just that when you're from... We passed 17 delisies. But that's what I'm about to say, when you're from New York City, you can't take nobody else's, like, what they say about sandwiches, seriously. Like, if you're from, like, the DMV, you can't tell me anything about a sandwich.

I'm from New York City. I grew up in front of the deli. Like, what are you... This sandwich is the best sandwich. sandwich in the city right here, this one at the gas station, right next to pump six. I'm cool. I'm fucking cool, man. You can't tell me about a good sandwich and I'm from New York. Which, I mean, I get, South Jersey, there's not a lot there, but I was expecting it to be like some crazy shit. That's cool. I get it.

I get it. 7-Eleven with a bigger space. It's the hangout for, you know, the high school kids, college kids. They drive there, park up. Listen to some music. You know, somebody going there, get a beer or something, you know. Let's eat some fucking. turkey and cheese sandwiches all and listen to Soldier Boy. Yeah, shoot a video. Did anyone watch the Kanye West? I don't know if I'll call it DeMaris is drunk, you all right? Okay.

What are you even trying to do? It's just drunk shit. Drunk shit. I'm not even drunk. I haven't been drinking for a while, but I just went to just ignore me. She's going to do withdrawal. Hands get shaky. I am. I'm doing a damn February, Mall. You want to do it with me? What's damn February? Damp. Well, not you. Oh, damp.

Roy, do you want to do it with me? What's damp February? So instead of a dry, like how I did dry January, instead of a dry February, it's damn, which means I pick one day in February where I get to drink, so it's not all the way dry. No, that's Valentine's Day, okay. But one, it's a galantines for my Galentines gathering with the girls. That's the 13th? What is the Galantines?

Galentine. It doesn't matter. You could do it whenever, but we're doing it on the 15th. The day after? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I want to talk about the niggas that didn't call, didn't send no flowers. Yeah. Yeah, I know.

Or that's just the Saturday. It's a Sunday too, though. It's a 16th. No, we're going to do the 15th. But yeah, that's the only day this month I'm drinking. Rory, you want to try it? Just one day a month drinking? No.

No, he wants to pick one day this month where he doesn't drink. It's not true. Don't pay me that. Not a flooded February. Where was like, okay, today, we're cutting off the hose. No, it was Amara. I didn't have any moral stance on drinking less. It was my daughter's up.

6 a.m. And drinking does not coincide with that. You can't drink every day and wake up at 6 a.m. You got to chill. Yeah, yeah, you got to drink some water and go to sleep. Yeah, absolutely. So, no, I won't do that. But, I mean, I'll support you. Well, thank you.

Jerry where it was easy. But February... Can I face-time you during Galantan's? We ain't never face-time. I'm gonna be with Kellynne Rocks, Penny. Like, be with the gang. Yeah, but I'm saying, I want to just FaceTime ladies and say happy Galantan's Day. Wait, can mall go to Galentine's Day?

Is he a Galham? Am I what? A galdom. Are you a galdom? Oh, no. I'm not. Okay, so no. Yeah.

But, I mean, you can say you are. Not anymore. Anyway. I like that. Not anymore. Yeah, but I mean, the law is the law. So they replaced Side Chick Day, which was the 15th, with Galentine's Day. That's what it is?

Yeah. I mean, side chicks are still going to do their thing, but none of us are side chicks. I'm not calling you guys that. Okay. We're also off. used to be that. I thought sidechicks day was always a 13. It's always the Friday before Valentine's Day.

That's what side chick's day is? Yeah. It's always the day before Valentine's Day usually. No, you have two girlfriends. Like a side chick, you're not doing anything for Valentine's Day at all for her. The day before. If you have to do the 13th or the 15th, you have two girlfriends. So what was side chicks day?

Side chicks don't need Valentine's Day. That's a day that's the sidechicks just created for some recognition. Why are they paying no side chicks no mind during Valentine's Day? Like the 13th, the 15th, the 16th, you know, you gets nothing. I'll speak to you Super Bowl Sunday and that's it. I'll speak to you in March. Oh, no. What's how?

Oh, y'all, that's rough. Yeah. It's rough being a side chick out here. For a real, nigger. These lame's not, they make it easy. More, you have to be in a relationship to have a side chick. Who? You?

Who made that rule up? So she got to be on the side of something. On the side of them all? on the side of his bed on the side of me yeah yeah or the left side you know not by the door

you put them you know what I'm saying about a window yeah that's fucked up because you want to protect the window is a intruder

yeah because if the intruder comes in you know he kills me first and then he kills her so he's not gonna kill me then leave

no he's gonna kill you too you can sleep on that side if you want to that means there's a specific serial killers that only go after the person that's first

yeah whoever's sleeping by the door he gets killed and then the other one lives no we all die Hey, keep your mouth shut. I'm out of here. You didn't see anything.

It doesn't work like that. Oh, okay. Well, Galantines Day should be fun. Did anyone watch the Kanye West interview slash episode slash I don't really know exactly what to call it? I saw clips of it. I didn't watch the entire episode. I watched it.

I really liked how it was shot. Like they had the whole projector. It was definitely shot really cool. I liked how they went in and out of the, I guess, interview to certain things. Kanye was working on old clips. It was definitely put together very well for that first episode. I liked it. It didn't feel like it was overly produced.

It felt like it was just like, you know, let's set up something right here. You know, just make your own rules. Like I like that type of vibe where it doesn't seem like it was too scripted. You know, we just had a chance to get yay on camera for a few hours, shot a bunch of shit and then, you know, we put it together. So I like that. They played to Justin LaBoy's strengths where Kanye just talks and then they cut to old footage or him in the studio. Yeah.

And then the boy's like, oh, crazy. And then they cut, like, you know, they played to his strengths. Don't do that. That was hate, right? That was hate. You caught that baby D? That was a little shot for Justin. Yo, what's up with you?

Wait, that was hate? Yeah. Can we reverse the footage to when the actual interview came out? That was hate. I was shitting on Justin LaBoy the whole time. That was the worst interview I ever saw my fucking life. This I liked. I actually really enjoyed what they put together.

You didn't really get much out. outside of Kanye's stance on AI. I would say that was probably the biggest thing I took from it. He, which we kind of predicted, he views it the way everyone shitted on samples in the beginning. And then that became the norm. Everyone shitted on Autotune, and then that became the norm. He thinks AI is the same thing.

It doesn't want to get left behind, which we expected from Kanye. I still think there's a drastic difference between it. That's an incredibly drastic difference. But Kanye is putting it in that same exact category. And I don't know. when the dust settles in 10, 15 years, we may look at it that way. I don't, but...

This entire bully album is AI, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not jacking it. Well, he didn't outright say that, but you got that idea. It's AI. They were even, like, showing other verses that other people cut, and then, yeah, it was like, yo, put my voice on it, and then it became Kanye. Yeah.

See, that's a dangerous thing to play with, man. When you got an artist as dope as Kanye and as, you know, innovative, and creative as Kanye, embracing that type of technology with the music. It's just, it's such a, it's such a dangerous, it's such a dangerous tone for other artists. Because now your argument is, oh shit, Kanye just did it and he sold this many, he streamed this and he did. Now you can start pointing to that. The snippets sound great. Yeah, so it's just a dangerous, it's a dangerous thing for somebody like Kanye to like co-sign that.

He says he's by hand cutting every sample himself. He's producing everything by himself. He said he's going to bring Mike Dean back into the mix on the engineering side, but he did say this is, This is yay on the MPC cutting everything up. So we get that for the first time in a while, which I don't know if that, does that add any credence to it for you? No, I mean, I understand that he still has a hand in the music. But to embrace, you know, vocally and the song, the lyrics, the music, for you to lean

so heavily into the AI thing, I think it's just dangerous for somebody like, an artist like Kanye to do that. Because, again, we've seen him create such classic pieces of music and, and, and, you know, and create such beautiful moments in music to now embrace this technology where essentially it can get to a point where we don't even need the artist. It would just be a thing where people sign off on their likeness.

You can use my likeness, but you never step in the studio so we don't get real emotion, real soul, real, like, I just think that's a dangerous thing for artists to embrace. Well, then do we owe old heads an apology? Because I was even one of the younger people. You know, we watch,

say, yeah, samples are cool, but when are we going to end up having the samples, sample to sample, sample, which clearly has happened. Yeah. But there was so many people older than me that hated my favorite era of hip-hop production, which is soul samples being chopped up, even to the point that they're extremely obvious, and you're just adding a few snares to a record that's already been proven, but to me, it was amazing. To them, it was like, this is bullshit.

This is going to ruin music. than Autotune King and shit people even three, four years older than me thought it was awful. I was like, y'all fuck with Autotune. Like, I think it's cool. But it's still a difference though. I know, but did all these changes lead to now where we're at for AI to be more acceptable?

So maybe these people were right based off like, I love what Just Blaze does, but there's so many people that were older that were like, that's someone else's music, he's chopping that shit up with the fuck. I was like, you can't see the art in that? That is the first step to getting here. I think it's different.

Like hearing that Beanie Beans, Beanie Segal was going to use AI on his new music because obviously, you know, he had such a change in his voice, his tone. But, you know, he's just using it to kind of sound like he did before. Yeah. But he's still writing. He's still actually laying down the vocals. They're just going to implement that technology to enhance his audio to sound similar to its sound. to what it sounded like before his voice changed. I'm not mad at it there in that sense because he's actually still going in the booth.

He's still right and he's still like laying down bars. But just in the mix, you know, we got to tweak his voice, his vocals a little bit. I'm not mad at that. When you say this artist didn't step in the booth at all. All emotions. To me, that's like. Connection is going. Yeah, it's like, all right.

So this is, we had a problem with posthumous albums. even though the artist actually laid that song down at one point, may not have laid it down to that music, they may have took those vocals and then put it on a new track. Yeah. But people hated that. This is beyond that. This is like,

do you mean he never even said that? He never even went in the booth and laid that down? To me, that's a problem. It's Biggie duets if Biggie was alive. Right. So to me. Just go do the duet. Right.

Like, to me, somebody like Kanye, who's as influential as he is, probably the most influential artists in music, I just think it's dangerous for him to embrace that type of technology. Why I think it's extremely dangerous outside of everything that you just named is that it's probably going to be really good and you probably will feel emotion connected to it. I think Kanye is going to be really good at AI. The way that we watch some of like the weekend stuff and Drake and, you know, people on Twitter that were putting stuff up and we're like, this is getting close to good, what y'all are doing, but we can still tell.

I don't know if we would be able to tell with Kanye's album unless he told us which he did in this episode that's how good I think he's going to be at it because Kanye we wouldn't say is the most lyrical person ever but his bravado and his delivery is what put him up there why he could do watch the throne with Jay because his energy is just like that

I think he's going to figure out a way to do that with AI and it's tricky and it's going to be so good that that's why it's going to be accepted because it's like there's emotion in this shit yeah this isn't just some straight AI weekend shit. That's emotion. It's tricky with Kanye too because he is actually still involved in the

producing of the music. So technically it is Kanye. Like he's still on EP. He's doing those things. So it's like, yeah, nah, it's him. But when you start talking about, you know, the lyrics, the vocals and things like that and that's just all AI, I'm just, yeah, I think this is where I start listening to country music, man.

Who says? That's not going to be AI. I don't know. See, I think that they keep that. They look like they protect their culture a little more than hip hop does. Just from Beyonce, ain't no one else? No, Shibuzi didn't get nothing. Yeah, Shibuzzi ain't went on either. No, he should have. Okay.

From black people. I didn't want to be the one to say it. Oh, okay. Cool. Glad you cleared that one to fuck up. Oh, man. Yeah, that's the only people they protected from. Well, Kanye did say he's not bipolar. He said he's autistic.

I think he's a little bit of both. I think, yeah. I think, you know, pick and roll. You need to need the screen to get the shit. Shout off. I get it. So are we surprised that he said he's autistic? Do we believe that he is really autistic? Or we think this is Kanye just saying Kanye shit. I'm not a medical professional. I'm kind of rolling with the fact that I've said, I think we've said before that we think he had a little bit of the tism. No? I don't, like, I don't, I think that was only

news to Kanye West. Like when he was sitting there with Justin boy, he's like him, my wife came up to me and was like, you know, I've seen bipolar people, but that's not you. I think. think you might be autistic. And like you could see the bulb go up in Kanye's head. And I'm like, I was 13 when you came out and I could tell you was autistic. This is just news to you.

But I mean, I'm glad he's getting the help that he needs. And he didn't really touch too much into it. I did like the point he was bringing up of staying on medication, but how to balance that without losing your creativity. Because a lot of autistic or bipolar people

that are super creative need their meds, but that can kind of comathe. coach you and not keep you in the right state. So him finding that balance, I thought was a really important conversation that I hope he talks more about. Because there is, you know, some of our greatest creative people are autistic. And in this new world of big pharma, they're just trying to put everyone on every medication period. And I'm not saying people don't need that, but you are taking away a lot of the genius that they have with doing so. So there does need to be a conversation how to balance that with creators. Has Kanye, has he ever taken the Toad? He, I think he lives in the Toad,

I don't think, I would like to see Kanye take the, like, see him after, like, a real, like, ayahuasca experience. You know, with people that don't have, like, super ADHD that Adderall makes them more focused and more hyper, and then people that actually have it, Adderall can actually calm them down because that's what it's supposed to do. I think the Toad would turn Kanye West into a regular human being. I think he's in the toad. Does he leave all of his... I think he would turn into like a regular guy.

Does he lose all of his superpowers as far as like artistically and music? For the trip, I think he would... He'd turn into like, you know, just a regular guy that works a 9 to 5 job. He like all the thoughts in his head he'd keep to himself because he knows those would be insane to say out loud. Right. So... Because he's built on Kanye being somebody who's built largely on ego. I think to be stripped of all ego after Ayahuasca experience would just be interested in

the type of person Kanye is. Yeah. I would too. And I mean, not to make this a Drake thing. I forgot what interview he was talking about, which I thought was really interesting that he said he didn't want to go into therapy

because a lot of what would heal him that he needs to go to therapy for would take away a lot of the edge and the creativeness. Like he needs to have that shit that he needs to heal from to stay as creative as possible. Like going to therapy,

I can't heal that right now. If I heal that, I'll lose a lot of shit that I need. Which I thought was a really, really interesting point in conversation. That's dope that he recognizes that and understands that, though. Like, I need, no, I need this thing, this ego thing. I need this fuels, this funds all of this. Yeah, I just, I guess it gets to the point and not specifically to those two gentlemen,

but the older you get, that will take a toll on you. And how many years, fuck your career. Like, yeah. How many more years can your body handle that type of shit? Because, I mean, even mental health still affects your, physical health too. If you're constantly having those type of episodes, it's going to take a totally.

Yeah. So, I mean, we'll see. And again, my only last takeaway from the Kanye thing on the negative side is a lot of the shocking, crazy shit that he was saying, he said a million times, I think Kanye is going to have to find a new strategy of the shock and all gimmick.

I just said something insane. He didn't say anything that we haven't heard before. that's why I don't think it hit the same way that he thought he used to do this all the time and it'd be insane we'd be at the edge of our seat Kanye is about to say this he didn't say anything that we hadn't heard that wasn't shocking that's why I feel like it didn't get

in the algorithm the way Kanye usually does yeah but either way I'm here for bully I mean the snippets sounded really really good I'll probably watch the Drusky reality show before bully but Drewski I like Drewskiy I love Trisky, man.

He's so fucking funny. He has a reality show. Could have been love. Thank you to Flavor Flav. Yes. This is all. Shouts are delicious. New York.

Yeah. But I like this, man. Drusky has leaned all the way into his character, his persona. He's entertaining. He's one of the few dudes that I probably would click on there, you know, their skits and shit online. I think that he's. he's genuinely a funny guy. So I'm looking forward to this to see what he put together.

So far, I mean, the trailer has Caleb from Sunday Conversation, who's hilarious via bar stool. If anyone hasn't watched that, I mean, I'm sure people have at this point. Who else were some of the bigger names that were in there? Yeah, I'm seeing Meatball. That's the homie right there, Meatball. That's my homie. Dr. Umar. Is it the homie, though?

That's my home. I fuck with Meatball. Yeah, like y'all speak on a regular? No, we never spoke, but that's my homie. I hold her down, though. That's my, that's my nigga right there. I hold her down. I hold meatball down. That's my nigga. Real talk. So she doesn't win love with Drewski. I'm running down. I'm running down on Drewski.

If Drewski kick her out, if he don't pick her up, Drewski is beef. I kind of want Young & May to win. I don't think she was competing. I don't think she was like, uh, Drewski's homie to judge some of the women. She's there to, like, kind of spy on the women and figure out who's best for him. I think that's her role in this. I don't think she's like trying to be who Drewski falls in love with. I can't wait to see what Dr. Umar say.

Dr. Umar is a... He's just trying to keep him away from the white powder. He's so funny. Well, in the trailer, that was the conversation. And Dr. He was like, nah. I'm trying to get you to fuck with these white men. Yeah, like Dr. Umar, I get it.

But nah, fam, you ain't seen some of the white women I've seen, bro. You tripping. It was definitely an interesting cast, to stay the least. I don't know if Drewski has a type per se. No, Drusky not have a type, man. Drusky just having fun living life, man. But I do want to what. When is this coming out?

I don't know if I saw an exact. date. But I do appreciate, like, in a world where Drewski got so popular with the IG stuff and like the low budget, I love that he is actually focusing on putting together well-produced content at this point. Because I feel like so many people have lost that now, because it's so easy to just turn on a camera and stream, that we've lost like really well-put-together content. And to me, this is like, I know this must have taken forever to really put-together. Yeah. And I appreciate that.

And I feel like more people who do get famous off IG and stuff should, I mean, I know not everybody has worked as long as Drusky has, but find a way to collab with these people like To Be or like Zeus or these production companies where they're making these like low budget movies and stuff like that. People say all the time that they want to see their favorite creators like, oh, I will watch you in a TV show. Like come up with it. Y'all have the creativity.

Go pitch these people for the money. No, Drewski, out of that whole vine way. and just coming out of social media. He is a legitimate, legitimate comedian. Yes, for sure. So this is dropping the day before Valentine's Day, February 13. Makes sense. If this is a paywall, I pay for it.

I want to binge it. Is it weekly? I know. I want to watch this in one fucking day. I watch all 12 episodes in one day. Shout out to Drusky, though, man. I'm going to go forward to this. And not for nothing.

I love Drewski with white people. Him with Theo Vaughn is fucking hilarious. Him with a roll tide, which I'm not. sure has some crazy blackface Facebook videos that will come out eventually. Absolutely. But for now, for now, love them. I'll be a piss by a number of the time.

Exactly. Him with Caleb, when they did their Sunday conversation, was hilarious. So I know their chemistry already is going to be great for this. Yeah. Drusky and white people, they should do like a buddy cop movie. National Security too. A ride-along type of thing. Yeah, I can see that.

What is with production companies in putting a black guy and white guy together as cop partners? There's got to be like 50 of them at this point They work They all work Yeah But you need that Because if we pull over a white guy I need a white guy

I need a white guy They had to kind of speak white If we pull over a black guy We need a black guy to kind of You know Yeah We need more that Who was the first ever

Tupacac in Jim Belushi I could promise you That was not the first Yo Was that grid It was Clint Eastwood and a slave Maybe cut that I don't know

Yeah you're wilding Hey See you can say Slave but not YN See Wait first of all slavery happened and Clint Eastwood is 99 years old.

So he knows a little bit about that. To say those two things couldn't exist. Oh man. Anyways, not to damper the mood per se, but to celebrate the life of

in my opinion, one of the greatest A&Rs of all time, one of the greatest execs hip hop has ever had or ever seen. I think the answer to why music has been suffering lately is because we don't have men like Irv Gotti who are in those offices and in those studios and fighting for their artists the way he did. Rest in peace to one of the greatest that we have ever had.

I don't even know where to begin on Irv Gotti's accolades. He created and had a hand in the soundtrack of my entire life. This was a big, big, big hit. Condolences to Chris, to Ricky, to Kyle, to his whole family. Condolences to everyone that was at Def Jam with him, Murder, Inc. know everyone is hurting today. Irv, what more do you say about someone like Irv Gotti? Yeah, he's, Erv is, he's the prototypical hip-hop. I don't want to say a story, but he's one of those guys in our culture that you go back to the beginning and then you watch the transition and when hip-hop started to become this

worldwide phenomenon. and Irv Gotti has his fingerprints on that moment. The second wave of Def Jam. I mean, you start obviously with Rick Rubin and Russell. We don't need to say with that from BC Boys, L.O., run, created the first real hip-hop label. They were hurting at one point once that started to fade. They kind of tape it off.

And then you had Leor and Kev come in, who are absolute legends as well, that deserve every bit of credit that they do get. But if you don't have Irv Gotti, I don't think Def Jam even gets to 2010. If you don't have him bringing in Rough Riders, having a huge hand and bringing in Rockefeller, and then starting Murder Inc. right after that, the big three that kept Def Jam and that legacy alive. I don't know if Def Jam still has the same iconic logo the way we view it without that wave that Irv Gotti, I'll almost say damn near single-handedly with his vision of like, no, you need to

fuck with Rough Riders. Yeah. X, this makes no sense to you. Yeah, I promise you. Yeah. This will work. This depressed drug addict,

people want to hear from this. This will be a monster. He just was somebody that was always in tune and, you know, had a fingerprint on the pulse of what was going on, what was next in hip hop. Legendary songs, legendary albums, legendary artists, you know, from the greatest ever to, you know, some of the biggest act. everybody had a relationship with Irv everybody has worked with Erv at some

point or another and you know it's just sad that we lost another one of our giants in our culture so so young you say 54 I believe it was it's just sad you know I mean we lost legendary DJ Clark Kent

a few months ago now we lose Irv Gotti so yeah it's just you know it's a sad time but we want to be grateful for everything that Irv has given us, has left with us, has definitely, you know, pushed us forward as far as us, meaning the culture of hip hop. And, you know, we want to send prayers and condolences to his family, everybody that he worked with, everybody here, he impacted in one way or another.

I'm sure everyone is affected by this. This is a big, big loss in our culture. And there will never, ever be another figure as big, as important, as legendary as Erf Gotti. So, Prays to Irv Gotti, prayers to his family. And we thank you for everything that you've given us and left with us in this culture. Yeah. I was having a conversation with someone last night. Irv just based off his personality, kind of overtook a lot of what his accolades were behind the scenes. Like, Irv had that personality where you either love him or hate him.

Like, he had that type of bravado shit, too. I don't know if there's been very many. execs and music men that have done it at the highest caliber. Outside of Irv, and I'm, you know, in the hip-hop world, Irv, L.A. Reed, J.M. D. J. Z. That list is very short of the people that did exec and producer on a creative side at the highest level on both sides. Right. Irv is on a very short list in hip hop and R&B that is a music man and an executive.

And it's funny when you are. There's huge executives and then I know good music, but you're not a music. Like you can't get in there with an ASR and if we need a hit, the CEO is going in to get us a hit. No, he's a music guy. You know, talking about starting out DJing, you know, and being in those places around those artists on the come up and being able to identify the next start. That takes a certain talent, that takes a certain gift to be able to identify somebody that you know is going to be great. Because you could all say, oh, this person is amazing. And then it turned out like, oh, it wasn't really what we thought.

But you look at Irv Gotti's track record of the people that, you know, he brought to the labels and produced and worked with and what they've done. Like you said, there's not many on that list that have done what Irv Gotti was able to accomplish. in such a short time. And even, you know, people from that 2000s era, a lot of people disappeared. God, he stayed, got a whole deal with BT, did Tails. Like, he also had a second run. Yeah.

As well. And in a whole different department, which I think just speaks to his creative. So, yes, and prayers to Jai. Like, I always loved that through this whole business from the outside looking in of every crew that broke up, everyone that had problems with everyone. John Irv stayed brothers up until yesterday and continued on.

It was always beautiful to see those two, no matter what, were always moving together. That's a very rare, rare thing. There's no real up. There's ups and downs down as a murder ink. There's ups and down with everyone else. John Irv, like, that was a true friendship that you could look at. Unfortunately, the business that, you know, of hip-hop, it does break a lot of relationships in brotherhood.

But it is, you know, dope to know that. him and Jai always remained what they started as, which was brothers. I'm pretty sure Jai has had some moments where he wanted to strangle Gadi, like, yo, what are you doing? Erv definitely doesn't seem like the easiest person. But, you know, it is beautiful to see that the brotherhood remained intact throughout the years. So again, rest in peace to the legendary, iconic Irv Gadi, prayers, condolences to his family. Rest well.

For sure. Do we have voicemails? you've got mail. Yeah, Roy, we got two of them. Okay. How's our Valentine's Day situation going? I'm collecting them. Well, actually, Josh is collecting them.

We're going to see how they're coming, but I want to let a couple of them build up, you know. I went back and listened to the one from last episode. I think them all was hating. Once I put the AirPods in, like, homie was kind of talking. You wanted him to talk to you in your ear? Yeah, he had a homie talking in his ear and all that. That's not a wild.

I had to hear the minute. Ride my tongue, sweetness. Yeah. What? But you guys, so when I thought about it later, you guys didn't even get the entendre of he was comparing me to a fine wine. And when you're drinking wine and really trying to taste it, it does kind of ride your tongue a little bit. The wine does. So, like, I get where he was going with that.

Demaris, that nigger is going to kill you if you have a link up with him. He's a serial killer calling into a podcast. I won't say cereal. Serial means you have to kill like four or five in a row. Oh, you know him? He didn't kill no. yet? What if he were his fifth that made him to scare? I wouldn't say, you don't know this thing. What are you talking about?

Well, anyway, we'll see. I don't want to scare off anybody else. What if you kill three random people? You just... Not cereal. You just... No, you're a cereal. Well, it has to be in a certain amount of time next to each other. I feel like if you randomly kill one person, I know the definition of serial isn't that, but you're, by two, you're a serial killer. No. Has to be three. I think three or more in a certain time. I love the fact that we're like, how many did he killed? Nah, not serious. But if you randomly kill somebody to me, that's serial killer shit. Y'all think that's assassination as well, too, according to y'all.

No, he was killed. Because you sleep closest to the door, you'll be assassinated and Shorty will live. And she'll be killed. Where? Okay, got it. All right, well, let's get to this voicemail. Baby D, I think me and you should get together. Fuck it.

I'm not really into no spoken word, none of that shit. Like, I think you're fired. Like, when you put the red hair on, it just, it do something to a nigga, but the eyes is crazy. I think your aura amazed. and me and you should just be dating. There's a little rhyme right there, but yeah. Like, me and you, I can really catch your remedy. I'm just trying to vibe.

What's your remedy? See what you really about. Three syllables. And just make you laugh and make that ass jiggle, baby. I miss you, baby. He loves you. What the fuck is going? He was talking that talk.

He said he missed you. Who is that? I don't know that. You know that. See, that he always don't know. When he call into your job, leave a voice. Now you don't know. I don't know it.

Sometimes when you feel like you was together with someone in a past life, you missed him. Yo, that niggas say, yo, he just tried to catch a vibe, laugh, make that ass jiggle. Niggas be horny, honey out here. Yo, Colin didn't leave him a voicemail like that. I will say, this Valentine's Day special is going to be insane. Off the two teasers we have with a poem and then just the regular Riz voicemail. Yo. They set the bar pretty high.

Baby D. He's, what's up? Sir, that's not how you talk to a lady. Like. That's how he gives him. it up. He said he wants you to be his remedy. Niggins never told you to be his remedy. Your remedy means you sick though.

Yeah, so he's sick. He loves him. I'm not healing no more niggas. He loves sick. He said he wants you to me. What's up? How many of you healed? We'll talk about it. Are they still healed though? Yeah, they heal.

Baby you think what's up? He said he missed you. I don't know him. Now you don't know him. I really don't know. I feel like you're my nigga now. I don't know that. Like, I don't know him. Like, stay on my phone. I don't know that.

that nigga. He lying on me. Out of last week's voicemail and this one, can he get in the car with DeMars? Remember, we're gonna have a GoPro. I'm gonna have a gun.

We don't have no choice. He's getting in the car. If he sees Baby D in the car, he's getting in. He laid the law down. He's driving. I miss you. I love you. Yeah, like he's like,

what's up, baby D? He's plime pressure. Y'all like when the niggas step up and, you know, me? You like that, right? I got to know you. I feel like my love is blind. Because I don't know what any of these people look like.

That's all right. They get engaged in one day. Yeah. You should be on, this is love is blind. This is our version. Love is blind. He's going to leave a voicemail based on what he said. I'm like, all right, I'll give him a shot.

I think with this gentleman, you don't have no choice. You have to give him a shot. Like, he's let you know he loves you and he misses you. He want to make that ass jiggle. I'm easy to love, though. Like, why should I love you back? That's really the question. It's easy to love me.

You saying you love me is not like a, oh, he loves me. everybody loves me like why should I love you back? Gentlemen, sir, what's his name? You just are going to let her say she's easy to love. They're just going to go over that. You love me, don't you? Yeah, she's just really difficult. Yeah, I do.

No, I'm sitting here. That's a lot. Experience. Like, your text message is on do not disturb all the time. There's no reciprocity. There's no reciprocity. You don't even text back. It's hard.

That doesn't mean I don't love you. I'm always confused. I show you I love you in different ways. I don't got to text back. back? Well, this gentleman, you got to respond to. If you don't text him back, he's showing up to your door. Yeah. I'm just going to chalk it up to the game.

They like that energy, though. They like that energy. There's other, there are other... They say that until they show up. On Twitter, they'd be like, yo, that's so sexy. Until he's at your phone door. Stop asking me how my day was and come make it. Well, he's going to come make your day. Like, as y'all go to make your day. Women love getting that off on social media. Stop

asking me what you're doing and come do it. All right, well, he's coming to do it. He's going to make the cops quota, too, in their day. Yeah, he's coming. He's letting you know. I will see what other entries we have, but thank you, young man, for having so much gall and audacity. He's older than you, young man. Nah, that's a wyan.

He said, I'm just trying to catch a vibe for real. He, he 22. Yeah, that's a nigga that's sitting in smoking plate Grant the Ford all day. Yeah. And he hoped that his parlay hit. What was my era's version of I'm trying to catch a vibe? You would just send a plate, like, a playlist of music. That is romantic.

Lisa. No, what was I? That's better than you. I'm trying to see your ass jiggle. Let's catch a vibe. No, that's real. That's valid. Chill? It wasn't chill? Yeah, I guess. Lituation. You'll come through so we can make a lituation. Like a Zuvie. Like it was, I'm trying to say right before like Netflix and chill, what was that?

I forgot what I was. We're chilling. We're cooling. We're cooling. Yeah. See, my shit. See, I'm older. Yeah, we lamp it. What was yours? My shit was y'all. I got open crib. Open crib? You niggas don't know when open come. Mom said she was going out of town. When you were younger.

Oh my God. The prudest of girl on earth would never turn down the I have the open crib. Open crib. Any girl's showing up to I have the open crib. Oh my God. I remember open crib. And then your homies always want to be there kicking it. Move.

No, the homies can come through, but it's like, you know, we know who we was waiting for to pull up. She pulled up with two of hers. It's lit. Open crib. That was a time, boy. I can't wait to tell your mother the next time I see her My mom?

You think my mother don't know Me? Shit It wasn't The open crib was cool But it was the friend with the cool mom And now you was in the Bronx So you guys didn't have basements

The friend with the cool mom Or the girl with the cool mom That had a basement You think we want to have basements in the Bronx? Not where you was living It was definitely like the fourth foot No the basement was where the laundry was And you could get killed

Like no no I'm not talking about that Yeah yeah You know the type of basement I'm not even saying like the finished basement, but at least there was some form of a carpet down there. You could all kick it in the basement. There was somewhat of a TV at least. That's why I love Queens girls growing up.

These girls had houses. Like, you know, wait, so this is all no, your parents don't even come down here? So when you, yeah. No, first of all, So is this us? First of all, they live on the third floor. There's tenants on the second floor.

And the basement was there. That's how it was. And when you had started that had the cool mom, there was a whole different entrance to that basement. Yeah. You could come and go as you please. The cool mom girl was to be. a whore. Now she's a loving mother of six

in high school. Damn, that is so accurate. Wow. That's very accurate. Rory. All right. So, baby, Dee, we don't know if you're going to take this young gentleman's offer up and go on a day. We don't know. I have to listen to the other people who are competing. But where's he at? We're doing the last dude. Is he like number one? He's number two. I really like Pome gave him. Oh. Pome gave you. He gave you one bar that kind of rhyme. He said that kind of rhyme a little bit. So there you go. He got straight to the I can tell that you're not going to put that much effort in.

You think you have a winning personality. You think your personality is going to win me over. That's what he thinks is going to happen. Is he a representation of this new generation of men that think they should be chased? Like he's not going to put any effort. She'll just come to me type of vibe. Yeah. Like it's giving life.

No, no, he's not. He's running down to you. He's not. You don't got to chase this. But he don't look like he running. He looks like he going to walk down. Like he's like, yo, what's up? Like he's high.

Baby Dee. Yeah, I don't like that. Okay. I like passion. I like you to be present in the moment. Like not you just sitting up there chilling eyes, though. He said you're trying to make your ass jiggle.

Exactly. You're worried about the wrong things. What about, you know, making the crinkles in my eyes go up when I smile? What about having her mind jiggle? That's a seizure. That actually makes your brain bleed. Yeah.

I think it's a definition of a concussion. That's a seizure. Yeah, that's a seizure. We don't want that to happen. So, never mind. I take it back. next episode we'll see who else has submitted. Do we have another voicemail? You call me off guard

with that one. Yeah, I didn't know where we were previewing more. He made me the whole vibe up. Yeah, good. I was ready to give some bad advice. Yo, what's up? Rod, Rory, Mald, Demaris, Peach. Keep doing what y'all doing, man. Y'all killing and y'all doing God's work out here. No, I'm not. Two things I want to say.

So the first one is a question. The second one is a statement. My question is make pretend it's your birthday, right? It's the best night of your life. Front row, Madison Square Garden, you, your friends, your family in the building. It's your night. Everybody's there to celebrate you.

You get to choose three artists to come out that night and perform in front of night. Everybody, 25 songs set this, 30 songs set this from all of them. Who's your opener? Who's your middleman? Pauls. Mega pause. And who's your closer? Who's going to, you know, like just finish the night off of you?

That's a good question. Who's the opener? Who's the middle act and who's the closer? 25 songs set? Mm-hmm. Damn, opening. I got mine. Damn, I actually want to hear this before.

This is a very tough one. Really? Mine is easy. I'm just basing it off of shows that I've actually been to that I was like, that was great. Opener. Hmm. Damn. I'll do mine first and give you guys to

Opener could be Usher. Okay. I let Usher be the opening act. Do you think Usher is going to be okay with that? I mean, it's my night. It's my night. How are you going to pitch to Usher that he's the opener? I'm like, you know, when people coming in, whatever, you can set the vibe.

I'm like, you can set the tone. They're finding their seats. Because it's tough to, it's tough to follow that. Usher, the roller skates? It's tough to follow up the roller skates. Facts. So you go Usher, opening act. Middle, I would, I probably put Drake as the second.

can act. Okay. And I would probably end the night with... You not picking Jay is insane to me. Come on now. Jay to close, though? Yeah, you close the highest. You close on a high.

Actually, Jay would be my closer. Yeah. As long as he ends with reasonable doubt, with the orchestra. Okay. I like that three. I would probably just switch up the order. Who would open?

Jay? I think Jay would open Drake to Usher. Usher would close. Yeah. Oh, you're trying to go home with some. Yeah. Rees without one of my favorite shows ever. You think I want to end the night with Ken I Live?

No, you don't end with Ken I live. You don't know. But, no, but it's my night and I want to leave with some life. I think Usher would close that night out the way I would like to leave the arena and the arena at that time. See, you want to start R&B. Okay. Then you get it to Drake because he got records all over, R&B, rap, dance,

get it to all of that shit. That's why Jay would get us to vibe going and then Drake can do rap and R&B. Because Jay going to bring B out. Wait, we had no stipulations of this? 25 songs. You picked the 25 songs. Okay. So it's his fade-to-black tour to open.

No, I'm just saying, in that set, we would have Beyonce come out, do some of their joints together. You know what I mean? Maybe bring Mary. have her do the joints they got. I don't think, I don't know if that's fair. That's a lot. But I mean, I'm going to let you rock. If I get to pick the set,

you're not, you need to pick the set. Absolutely. Are they free? Like, I got to pay them for that. No, I mean, like, are they available? I think, I think B will be available at night. She made herself free from Mals Day.

Yeah, it's my night. It's my night. It's funny. It's not even like your birthday. It's just my night. No, that's just my birthday. He said, imagine it's your birthday. Oh, okay.

I thought he was just saying it was. Oh, yeah. birthday or yeah she got to come out for that of course man she's been mine mine would be Bruno Mars open Beyonce I got something to do Beyonce middle and then

no Bruno Mars open Janet Jackson in the middle Beyonce closed but also doing some of her her J features I ain't going to lie while Bruno open I'm at the I'm at the concession stand let me go get you Whatever nigger it's not your birthday It's not your night

I got to go to your birthday part party, right? You ain't been to none of the other ones? You ain't had no, bro. I took you, I was with you in one of your birthdays. That's a fact. See, baby, yo, stop doing that. You be trying to paint me just thinking that don't fuck with you.

Stop doing that. Stop doing that. Stop doing that. I don't fuck with you. I don't know. I never, I've been. I took you out for your birthday in LA. No, no, no, no, no.

We were in L.A. Me and Rory went out. You happened to come. See, usually I like the shit alone. That's not what happened. That is crazy. I went out knowing it was a birthday and went going out. I was in my hotel room getting dressed.

Like, yo, we going out for baby D's birthday. Oh, okay. I didn't know. What the fuck? Like, yo, that's crazy. Yeah. You know, that was fully involved in that time. Back when you fucked with me, you know, that was 2022.

Nick, it's in 2025. I'm about to be 31 this year. Yeah, but have you asked me what I'm doing for my birthday? No. What you do? What do you do? Nothing. I don't have any plans and any friends.

So I don't have anything. You got friends. You got on the Galantines. What are you talking about? That's February. Yeah, but 70s you have friends. Oh, yeah. After Galant's Day, they're going to fall out because that's what women do.

Somebody's going to get a boyfriend. Somebody's going to go back to the nigga. Y'all said on Galantan's Day, do not go back to that nigga. Three days later, what you doing, girl? This nigga came over and we went to dinner and this nigga ain't leave. It's been three days. He's still here. He's a different person, though.

He's changed. He's in-25. Knew him. He's in therapy. You know, I knew us. I believe him. I believe him. So Bruno, Janet Jackson, Beyonce.

Yeah. I'm a text baby Dina asked for the 7. list and like what time everyone's coming on then I'll be like yo you want to do a pregame and then we'll get there for janet yeah let's get there for janet yeah let's get dinner before like yeah yeah right when yeah yeah we'll be right down the street like we don't get them we get dinner person and come over there let me 15 minutes before janet hill if bro if bro if bruno is before me of course i would see brittal more absolutely we're talking shit all right rory who's yours i'm trying not to repeat because i i would steal a lot of what you guys have our face

Scarface opening. Scarface opened it. Little Wayne in the middle. Wait, did he put dead or alive? Like, are we allowed to do dead people? No, no dead people. Y'all got Beyonce coming out on J-Set from all day, and we can't just make a hypothetical?

Well, both of them are still alive. I know. At this point, that's a version of a hypothetical, so I feel like dead people should be... No, dead people is a completely different hypothetical. Yeah. All right, fine. So Tupac to open.

He's in Cuba. I would. Hmm. I would start the night with DeAngelo. Okay. Set the tone.

Well, R.B. Yeah. I would then go, fuck, you guys took so many of mine. So then do one of ours. No, you could take another artist. We only picked some of the greatest artists ever. I would go DeAngelo.

I would put, this would be risk. because he'd probably go over his time. Kanye as a middle could get really risky. Oh shit. See, once you start putting it. But I don't want him to close the night out because it'd fuck up the vibe when he starts ranting.

Or it could be like to the girl that I'm talking to. Like, yeah, it was probably time to leave. He talked about Facebook and shit. Yeah, but I feel like that's better as an ender because if you put Kanye in the middle, ranting, that's going to fuck up the vibe. Yeah. Pussy dry.

Okay. If Beyonce is the closer, I think Kanye would respect that Beyonce's time was coming and they would do this summertime shit or what's the record that they have? That Cole Andre 3000

We like to part it? Yeah. That would get us into the Beyonce set and I feel like Kanye would respect it. No, Drunken Love remix. Drunk and Love remix with Kanye is one of my favorite. I love it so much.

And I would combine that Kanye set since you guys said we could just bring anyone in. It would be a Watch the Throne mashup into the Beyonce set. that lift off would close it, and then we'd get into some on the run, too. So you said DeAngelo, Kanye, Beyonce?

That would be for like an arena. Yeah, I'm going to be at the bathroom when DeAngel's those on. Yo. Get that out the way. First of all. That line is going to be long. You guys got to bring in all the people affiliated. If DeAngelo's there, I don't get all the Soul Aquarians.

He doesn't bring out Badu. He doesn't bring out Maxwell. He doesn't bring out the roots. He doesn't bring out all. He's the opener. may act so no he's not bringing out the roots and he only got 15 minutes yeah I thought he had 25 fucking songs no

it's a total of 25 songs so it'll probably be five yo give me DeAngelo a medley is crazy I don't do that see I'm just saying what you mean I'm just saying if you're on legends I don't like it I'm hate I'm just saying if you got two classic minutes no DeAngelo's a legend I'm just saying

if he only gave him 15 minutes to do 25 songs he would do it's a medley he would just do the really love song off the last album. I think that, I think that song is 25 minutes. I think that song is 25 minutes. You don't think DeAngel will be a cool opener?

No, I'm lying. For my open, I'm going to go Andre 3,000, but only new blue sun. You got to perform now. Maris, I'm going to text you and say, yo, let's figure out when Maul's second act is going on. Yeah, yeah. Let my man three stacks get the opening, man. You know, me play the flute, man.

You're going to be on the floor. I'm going to tell Maude to save me a seat. I'll be there soon. Yeah. I never want to do Andra 3,000. thousand hey but shout out to the gramis for for fixing their mistake you guys got it right what did they should have never fucking nominated that goddamn album yeah they were wilder wait how did they fix that after the gramees is over they didn't they even brought it up just let's let's let's let's brush that mistake under the rug really there was no and 300 3,000 talk on the red carpet

no one was like who did we think three stacks is going to win they just shut up so what did they say post the grammies did they release statement so why did he said they cleaned it up they talked about everyone that was nominated but him Oh. Yeah. They didn't have been nominated. Three stacks were sitting there like, huh? Yeah.

The fuck is wrong with you all. All right. Well, Super Bowl Sunday is this weekend. I'm gonna go to New Orleans tomorrow. My guy. It will be in New Orleans for the Super Bowl. Yeah. Any predictions?

I tried to budget it and Loyon sent me a very long description that this would not boo hop. But for all of them, not. Later. You know any time it's time to party hang out, baby. D trying to be there. That's not true. I'm not even drinking this month. You would be drinking if you went to New Orleans.

Cut your shit, but I would. You would think you're talking to. You would be staying in an Airbnb with me and Jay Electronics on it. Oh, I'd need alcohol just to survive. Predictions. My heart says the Eagles, my money is on Kansas City. But I would like to see Jailen Hurts and Saquan. Yeah, I'm going to lean into the story bookending.

I'm going with the Eagles. Going with the Eagles. Would you put your money on the Eagles, though? No. God no. Okay. I would put my money on the chief. Baby D? I'm going with the Eagles, but I wouldn't put money on it either.

We don't have to ask Mr. Kansas City himself who he's going for. Who are you going for a day? He said the Eagles. Get the fuck out of here. You believe Peege, if you want to. He ain't going for no fucking Eagles. That's Kansas City through and through right there. You kidding me?

What type of New Orleans activity should I get into? Should I go full? like ratchet, Rory or should I be reserved? What do you guys think? I think you should do whatever your heart desires. If you want to get drunk on Bourbon Street and pass out on your own vomit,

go ahead and do that shit. You got a single coming out like, party, fuck it. Nah, I'm going to be with someone that doesn't want to be seen. So I think I'm probably flying to New Orleans to stay in an Airbnb and then flying back home as if I were still in New Jersey. Yeah, why not?

Yeah. Good time. Watch the game in the crib. They'll probably go to the game. I'm watching that game in the Airbnb. Yeah. You couldn't get tickets? I'm not going to ask, so.

I get it. If somebody says, yo, you want to roll? Yeah. I already have my outfit laid out and picked out. It's ironed and everything. That's a jersey?

Yeah. And I even have like the laminate that's empty with the pass. So I just put the pass in there. Yeah, yeah. It's already there. Yeah. But I am going to play coy on the couch. Like,

oh, what do you? Oh, what are you going with Hoven B? Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, let me know how I should. Like, you know, like, if they be like, oh, there's a spot.

There's one more? Just like when we go through, like the door, just stay really close to me. Yeah, I have my fit, ready? I did that for, it's funny that you said that. I did the same exact thing for All-Star Weekend. I want to say that was 2000.

One. Whenever they, the year they was in- Fuck about 9-11. Whenever there was February of 9-11, I believe. Should have anticipated it. The year it was in D.C. That's exactly how I got in the game. I literally took,

God bless, it might have been Alia that snuck me in because she was with Dame at the time. And I just walked right next to Alia and we kind of like just went through security together. I didn't have a ticket. But like, we was all in D.C. together. And I was just like, oh, fuck it, we mobbing.

And I was like, word, fuck it. I'm young, dumb. Didn't think about you. If they stopped me, what I'm going to do? Walk back to the hotel. Yeah. But we all got in and had a good time. Yeah, I feel like 2001,

All-Star weekend is a, things have changed post-9-11. Yeah. I don't know with Jay-Z being a partner with the NFL if I'll be able to finagle, just grab the back of J-Electronica's shirt. Yeah. I don't know if it's going to work at the Super Bowl. I mean, it worked All-Star Weeking for me, but the Super Bowl is a different, the whole different animal.

I don't want to put Pige on blast, though, but he's done some Photoshop things back in the day. Statue of Limitations is past. Yeah, yeah, yeah. some shows he's gotten into. If I get a quick peek at what that pass looks like and I hit Peach. Yeah, he can make it happen. I might find a little print shop in New Orleans and Yeah, make it happen. Swap it out.

Yeah, put a security vest on. It's all good. Yeah, okay. All hands on deck. Julius is going to come from out of nowhere, tackle your ass to the ground. Don't play. Julius knows me. Come on, that's Big Roar. I've been, I've been indictment with Julius. Like, come on. I think you're about to say, I've been indicted

with Julius. I'm about to be like... Fuck, I got going on. You're like, what? You just being indicted with Julie I was saying you're trying to throw that out right now Like word, okay, that's what's up That's funny Well yeah, this was fun

I will be in New Orleans Minding my business Yes And maybe having some fun Do you have a Super Bowl party plans? Where are you watching? Nah, man I mean, actually one of my boys

Does have a Super Bowl party at his house that he's trying to do But I don't know if I'm gonna go yet But that would probably be the only thing I go to DeBaris? I'm having a party but so far as just me I only invited me. Thank God I'm going to.

It's just you, baby, Dee? I only invited me. It's just going to be me watching the game. I think I'm going to make some sliders. Or maybe I should just make one burger being that. It's just me. Yeah, if it's just you, you don't need nobody else to slide. Just make one big ass burger, baby.

Stop playing. Over there playing sliders. It's just you. Ain't nobody going back to that tray to get that other little ass burger, man. Take all that fucking, take all that ground beef and put that shit together. One big ass burger, baby, D. Fuck it. I mean, shit.

What did you guys do last year? Year before we all spent together. Last year was who? Last year. It was Kansas City, right? Three years ago? Yeah, Kansas City and... When did we do it at my house?

That was the Dr. Dre, Snoop, Kendrick? That was 2022. Then it was Usher, Rihanna. Oh, shit. The years have passed. I had no idea with... Usher, which was last year, I had a Super Bowl party, me and Alex did.

The year before that was Rihanna, I was home. And then the year before that was Dr. Dre and them. Yeah, so it was Kansas City San Francisco last year Oh, San Francisco Well Everyone have a safe In New Orleans

Be safe out there I did All-Star weekend Out there one time That city's not designed For these type of weekends Like if it's not on foot Yeah No fucking way you can get anywhere

Well be safe out there Have a good time Tell Jay I said hello Sam I love Yeah, tell you have We're not leaving that Airbnb No Well Jay is definitely not

But anyway Everybody be safe Be blessed enjoy each other, love each other, and just appreciate each other while we still have each other, man, because tomorrow's not promised. And, you know, every time we have such a huge loss

in our culture like Erf Gotti is kind of reminding of that of just enjoying our time together and be legendary while you're here. Try to be legendary because that's exactly what Erf Goddy was. So we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed.

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