New Rory & MAL - Episode 347 | Not Guilty

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

TGIF! I know you guys are as happy to hear from us as New Edition was at their latest meet and greet. But no one on earth is happier than A$AP Rocky, who got to go home to Rihanna and the rest of his family after winning his recent trial (14:22). Now that he's safe we can finally laugh at the crazy circumstances. Megan Thee Stallion has released her new tequila brand, and we revisit our favorite (albeit, awful) liquor combinations throughout the years (31:08). Speaking of the non-crumbling Roc Nation, Jay-Z has cleared his name (39:19). The lawsuit filed against him has been dropped,and he is in turn filing one of his own. We have a discussion about why people may have so many conspiracy theorists for the rich, and then ask an important question - have you found your soulmate (53:00)? For the second half of the episode we are joined by comedian and host Roy Woods Jr. (56:30). He gives us his outlook on Trump’s Black History Month celebration, as well as Chappelle finally admitting to being censored on SNL and his own experience with TV show rules (1:16:00). Delta is offering 30k to the victims of its accident and nobody seems to think it’s enough (1:34:35). Also discussed is Lizzo’s post embracing her new size (1:42:22), and a J Prince story that’s sure to bring you to tears (1:58:35). #volume For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmal Follow Rory: @ThisIsRory Follow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWay Follow Demaris: https://linktr.ee/demarisg To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The volume. And we're back. The sick cast. I feel like everyone has been sick for the last two weeks. No one can shake any of these flus. I'm about 50 ginger shots deep over the last two weeks.

I don't even know what to do anymore. It's all good. Don't worry about it, man. Told you the mono warrior, man. It's probably a little mono. I don't think I've ever had mono, honestly. Oh, okay. Really?

You got out of it clean, you got the newer community, but no, Mono? No, no. Born 1990. I was at the height of Mono. Oh, shit. Like when we started figuring out what kissing was, Mono was at its peak. Yeah.

Like, it was, yeah, it was definitely Mono 19 at that point. Well, hopefully everybody starts to feel a little bit better. Do remember that our first episode, Rory. Yes. Rory Moll, don't know ball with our first guest. Adam Pac-Man Jones is available now. Yes. Shout out to Adam Pac-Man Jones for joining us.

One of my favorite defensive backs and punt returners of all time. One of my favorite personalities as well. On and off the fields. Yeah. It was fun talking to him. A lot of bumps and turns. That was a roller coaster, but we got through it. Shout out to Pac-Man Jones.

He was a great guest. Especially on Zoom and him being at a golf store with a golf simulator. Where else would Pac-Man Jones be at? Where else would he be? But a golf, a golf store. But I thought it was a really cool first episode. For those that don't know, we are launching a new show. on our same YouTube platform, same audio platform.

Roy Moll don't know ball, where we talk with some of our favorite people from the sports world about music topics, some sports stuff that we'll try to learn on, but we're not going to give you some skip takes. We are staying within our wheelhouse with music. Pac-Man Jones said that Future needs to thank Young Thug, and I just had to sit that one out

because I'm not from Atlanta, but I started doing the math in real time. I just don't. That might have been the craziest music take. I mean, but maybe it wasn't just about music. It's kind of funny because after we were pitching the show and shout out to the volume, we had said over the years,

the worst and craziest music takes we've gotten from people ended up being athletes, how we came up with this concept. And off the first episode, Pac-Man Jones says that future owes young thug a thank you. I mean, but again, I'm thinking maybe it may be personal. It might not be everything music basis like you're thinking. Maybe.

We were asking me for questions, though. Yeah. It's just like, future been out 10 years before Thug was even around. Yeah, but still, Thug might influence that from, you know what I mean? From behind the scenes, though. Like, I don't even want to get in the studio yet, but you should. Future was in the basement with Andre 3000 and Big Boy in the 90s.

Thug was probably there too. Yeah, my bad. Maybe Outkast got to think Doug, too. We don't know. It could be a deep, but dark of criminal link. And you know what's funny? Now that I think about it, remember when everyone got really pissed up, off, you know, when three stacks comes out of the woodwork every so many years through interviews,

he had said at Fife's funeral when he was speaking and in some publication that Thug was his favorite artist. Like everyone thought he's about to shit on Thug. He's like, no, that's my, to me that defines Atlanta. There you go. You're on to something. So Pac-Man was right. Thank him.

AT aliens. All the futures catalog. Doug was a kid in there. Exactly. Somewhere. Somewhere along the line, Thug is in that story. But our first episode of Rory Mall don't know ball with Adam Pac-Man. Man Jones is available now.

And my car was beautiful with Day 26. Yes. Incredible performance. Thank you to the guys for coming through, man. That was a dope performance. Pete. Impromptu singing by the sink. Because where else do acoustics sound great at besides the sink?

Peage was shedding tears watching that. He was watching on repeat. Yeah. They went crazy. That was fun. Shout to the guys, man. Loved our conversation with them as well. Shout day 26.

Did you ever go to their show that week? I was out of town. I didn't make it to their show at, what was it at? SOBs. They did too nice. Yeah, no, I didn't make it out. I'm going to catch them live because I've never seen them live, so I do want to make sure I catch them live.

Also going to catch, shout out to Sean Stockman for, he sent my sister some tickets to catch boys to men live down at the MGM Grand. I think, I believe in D.C., I believe. I believe it was that. I can't remember. But Sean, thank you, my brother for looking out for my family. They said the show was amazing. And they all said that I have to catch the show.

So I'm going to fly out one of these days to whatever city boys to men is in and catch one of their shows. One of my home girls was in Vegas. And I put this photo in the recording chat like two or three days ago. She went to go see New Edition in Vegas, right? Did y'all see the meat and green photo page? I don't know if there's a way that we can blur her face

when we put it up on the screen. All right, so why is BBD on one side? Why is the guy that replaced Bobby Brown at one point and Bobby Brown and the other side. Yeah, no, there's a lot of layers to this entire thing. Yeah, this is,

did these niggas say hello to each other on the tour? Like, did BBD and Johnny and Bobby speak to each other? I mean, I love that they, they, hey, BPD so much that Johnny and Bobby are cool with each other. Poison pissed them off that much.

Okay, but what is the, what is the point of this, though? Why are they, why do they have the fans in between something and? I don't know if it's a cleanliness thing. Like, I never even saw this.

You think this is a cleanliness, Even when we were doing shows like right at the tail end of COVID when it was still a little weird and you had to wear a mask, we were like shaking hands and hugging the fans. This is hilarious. This is absolutely ridiculous. What is going on, man? I've never seen any. Why? At this point, why even do the meat and Greek? If we're that concerned about germs and people being sick, why even do the meeting Greek? That's a sick request to put the matter. We've never seen no shit like this. I haven't, I don't think it has anything. They have them separated like a hot pocket. You know, you put the hot pocket inside the sleeve and put it inside the microwave. wave like what is this? I don't even think this can't be for germs though there's no way that this is for germs because one sneeze and everybody is still getting like what disease you think Bobby brown is concerned about germs I don't think it's germs at all that's why I don't know why are they married and they just don't want to touch anybody like I don't understand Mary don't touch nobody Eddie wasn't there you think don't do that see because we just can't we not we can't do that but yeah we can't this is this is absolute what is this I don't know and and she like

One of her friends works for whatever that theater is. So she didn't like pay for the meeting greet. Her friend was just like, yo, you want to go meet new addition? No, this is for the meeting greet. But she's like, yo, if you want to go meet new addition, like I'll just put you next to the meeting greet shit, we'll skip the line. And then she sent me, because I was hype for it. I was like, damn, you get to meet new addition.

Like, that'd be a dream for me. And then she sent me this photo. I'm like, you didn't meet new addition. All right. This is why this is absolutely insane. First of all, that young lady had to war. walk into that slot, walk past

Johnny Bobby, Ricky, Mike, and Ronnie. Like, and then like, stand in between a column. It's not like she came from behind the step and repeat and just appeared. She had to walk past them and then turn around and stand in that, take a picture, and then walk back.

Do you think they did like the prison shit for the handshake? They might as well had. This is crazy. This is absolutely I just don't get this at all. Do you think we should implement this? That's what I was wondering too. But once I saw Johnny and Bobby together, I was like, maybe that's all they needed. And they said, fuck Ralph.

Well, is that Ralph right there with a sweatsuit? I thought that was Mike. Is that Mike or Ralph with a sweatsuit on? That's not Ralph Trismet. I don't know. It might be Ralph. Maybe Mike wasn't there. He looks good.

But yeah, this is crazy, though. I would be highly upset if I went to pay money or go see a group that I love. And this was the meat and greet. And the standard that Chris Brown said. Is this something that the, the, the, Court Theater in Vegas, is this their COVID measures or? I do not know. Are they still, because Vegas, I can promise you, is not abiding by any COVID measures.

Me and Demaris were out there. There was not a rule. Yeah, I don't, this is, I don't know what this is. This is just. Like, you, you can literally just pour alcohol and piss into the pool and just swim. Yeah, like, so this not, they're not, this is, this is not, this is not, this is not, I'm not, I sent as you all in group chat, no one's saying anything. I was beside myself. I'm just trying to understand what is the lot, what is the sense behind this. Like, this makes zero sense to have a fan stand in between two fucking glass columns like

this. Like, this is crazy. Oh, but what a way to do meeting grief? No, what a way to not. Not even say hi, just. Yeah, this is like, I don't know. Oh, I'd be back to my hotel in time, so I wouldn't be sick. Well, you don't know if they said hi or not.

Like, we don't know if any of that happened. She went in between the two providers. I mean, the high is not even my concern at this point. At this point, you don't have to say how if you got me standing in between two bulletproof fucking That's how they divide bus drivers in New York Yeah this is

Bro this is great I would be pissed off If I paid money To go meet one of my favorite And this was the meeting greet I would be absolutely Nobody else on the internet Is talking about this?

No I was shocked So this like She didn't post it At the new edition show She just sent it to me It wasn't like She posted it

Where it could have went viral But I mean she said the show Was great Wait this girl sent this to you? Yeah You know that girl in the middle Yes

Oh okay I didn't know that No, I was just that. Her friend works at the theater and they all went, they went to Vegas. And they were like, yo, if you guys want free passes to the new edition show, got you. Oh, so maybe this one. I was jealous. I was like, damn, you about to go see new edition. We was just texting. She's like, yeah, I'm on my way now to go see. And then later that night, she said me, she said, yeah, they gave us backstage passes. Okay. So maybe this is how they treat the non-paying. This is the non-paying section right here.

You know, the guest list photos would be the funniest thing. Yeah, this is the non-paying section. You could see us, but you can't greet us and meet us. You can see us, though. But this must be, okay, all, it makes sense. See, I got more information now. Okay, cool. I understand it.

New Edition, do your thing. Get your money, man. I respect it. This is nuts to me. But I think we should implement it. No, I can't. This is, I would be laughing way too much if I walked in somewhere and somebody came to meet and greet me, first of all.

And I had to meet them through a fucking plexie glass. I would just be like, all right, man. I could have stayed home for this shit. Still never seen New Edition. Still never seen Boys of Men. That's all my bucket list. Yeah. I need to do that.

And so Boystamette is on tour, or they were doing some... They're on tour. They're on tour. They're moving around. I didn't look at the full schedule, but I did tell Sean that I would fly out somewhere and catch them somewhere on the road, so... I saw a lot of people went, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe it was the first set of Tyler shows that happened this past week.

Yeah. All the footage looks really great. Very similar to the rollout, but, I mean, I definitely want to go see that Tyler show whenever he's in New York. but it looked great. I'm excited for some some live performances this year. I didn't do enough.

Tyler is one of the artists that I would go see live. I would pay to go see Tyler. You guys know I was festival poppy. I was going to all live shows. The past two years with the baby, I have not been able to. 2025,

once it gets a little warmer, I want to make it a thing to start going out to more live performances. Okay. I can't have Demaris show me up crying in front of Gunna. Like, I got to top that. Yeah. Yeah.

Why you always bring up the most embarrassing moments of my life and just like throwing out? That's what we do as people. We got to do that. You got to bring the most embarrassing moments and laugh again and again and again. Like if Tyler brings the internet out, I'll cry. I'll even turn my Wi-Fi off on my phone. See, at least I had a reason to cry.

You didn't have a reason to cry. Wait, wait, wait. You said that with confidence. Like, the reason to cry for Gunner was something that all of us possess. Oh, I'm sorry, like a man avoiding life in prison when he was not facing life in prison. He wasn't facing life. I don't even know he's facing a year. Don't do that.

Don't try to justify why he was in there cry. That nigger wasn't facing no life. He was arrested as a pump. on. Yeah. He wasn't facing no life in prison. Life in prison. He was facing prison and he was able to get out.

His mother was there. He wasn't facing no prison time, man. You don't know that though. We do know that. Gunner wasn't facing no prison time. They just didn't give him bail so they would hope that he would plea out or talk. Yeah. And if they didn't give him bail, they was just eventually going to release him?

Yeah. Okay. They released the guy that was facing life. Yeah. You got it. So if you cried at Gunner show, what are you going to do at Thug show? Yeah. I cry when Thug was released.

release Mariah? I cried for Mariah. No, no, no, no. You cried because Mariah was up there happy and she was crying. You didn't cry because Thug was a release. Don't do that. Don't try to parlay your emotions. Don't do that. Anyway. Exactly. I was happy for Gunna. His mom was there and his girl was there. He was happy. He was excited. Like, yeah, I was happy for him. All right. So I can't be happy if the internet comes out and Steve Lacey can finally play music he likes. I mean, we cry over different things. We have different emotions. We're different humans. I cried when he had to do that TikTok shit for them little kids. he cried

Steve Lacey cried You're too talented You don't need to do this He had to do that fucking record He was crying Did you cry when ASAP was free? Yes, I cheered

I was very happy A tear drop I ain't gonna lie man First of all First of all Before we get into it Before you start Yeah I gotta start

I know before you start Before we get into it Definitely Salute And congrats On winning the case Being found Not Guilty

ASat Rocky was found not guilty on all charges in his case in California. So we want to send a salute and, you know, congrats to him and his team on that. But yeah, let's laugh a little bit, though. Well, first, I want to be somebody to admit, we need to stop being lawyers on the internet and on podcast. Why? I'm guilty of it all the time. We pretend to be experts on everything we know absolutely nothing about.

be a lawyer. We were on Mike and definitely off Mike. I was like, yo, it looks, it don't do that. It was a lot of us looking like, damn, maybe Rocky should have taken that plea. Like, why do we say that? Why do we say that? Based off the information we had. Based off the evidence the court had. Based off the video I saw my own eyes. Listen, I'm from home. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy for Rocky. Oh, same. I'm happy for Rocky. Oh, it was free Rocky when we were saying that. But now that the case is over. Let's talk some shit. I'm not going to, Roy, whatever you's going to say, Salute. I'm going to cut you short. Yeah.

Hey, Rocky, listen, man. You, because I watched the verdict. I sat there at 645. It said verdict coming at 7.20. I was tying that into 420. Cali time. I said, well, they're about to roll this thing up and smoke them. 420.

You know how. I'm looking at all with this shit. It looks crazy. I'm looking at it. I'm like, oh, then when they went to eight, I'm like, oh, God. It's 8 o'clock. They're 40 minutes late. This must means they're, like,

up in the security measures outside the courtroom. I'm thinking all kind of shit. shit. Yeah. When they finally looking for a white Bronco outside. Oh my God.

When they finally showed that courtroom and I'm looking at Rocky and you see his shoulders like he breathing heavy he praying.

I'm like, oh shit. He don't think that he's going to be found not guilty. Because if you think that you're innocent, right?

It's a certain body language that I think that is natural. Yeah. OJ had it, you know. OJ had it.

Who else had it? Thug had it. You know what I mean? When you know that you're not guilty, it's a certain energy. Every Dahmer. Domer had it. It's a certain energy that you just exude. And when they pan the Rocky before the verdict was red, and I'm looking at him, and I'm

seeing him breathe heavy, I'm seeing his breathing pick up. His shoulders is moving. And you can see the air going in his shoulders and out of his shoulders. And I'm like, damn, he nervous. Understandably so. If your last experience in prison was slipping on semen and shower? You don't want to go back. Would you be nervous? I would be terrified. So I'm like, damn. So I'm sitting there. I'm on the phone with some of the homies. I'm like, damn, man. I don't

know, bro. Like this shit, I hope he's not guilty. I hope they find him not guilty. But he don't look like he believed this shit right now. He looked like he nervous. He's scared. I'm like, so, you know, we're sitting there. So as they're reading it, and the juror that read it, he knew to cadence. He knew to slow it down right before it got. Once he said, Rocky's name, he slowed down. I'm like, this nigga playing game. Yeah, he definitely did it. It was almost like when LeBron announced he was leaving to go to Miami. It was like, you don't slow it down if you're not.

You know what I'm saying? If it's innocent, it's like you get right to it if you're innocent. You slow it down if he's guilty. Like, damn, I don't want to read this verdict in Rocky. No, he's going to jail. So I'm like, oh, shit, I think he's guilty. Because that was the juror that was compromised. I'm sure he has a Beijing last name.

And then when they said not guilty, man, Rocky almost fainted. His knees gave out. He jumped over the front row like Martin. when he was in court for that ticket and he just hugged Rihanna and I was just like, damn, like it was like, okay, cool, he's not going to jail. But then as homies, we got on the phone, right?

And we was like, yo, listen, man, their defense was it was a prop gun. That flew in court. And even the jurors were like, no, we thought it was a real gun. So I'm like, I'm like, wait, a prop gun flew, that got the not guilty? Did you ever see that that first interview

with Sammy the Bull after he'd snitching all that on Dateline when he talked about like paying off jurors and compromising an entire jury for John Gotti. If Rihanna ever gets jammed up for like some type of fenty money laundering whatever if they're trafficking kids

in Sephora, that's going to come out. Oh yeah. That jury was compromised. I mean... I love it though. Listen, I love it. Listen, the fact that Rocky is home with his family free, not in prison, I love it, salute it. Great job. to his team.

But then, you know, in talking to people, we kind of had a back of over. And people didn't feel like Rihanna's presence made much of, you know, any type of decision. Like, it didn't help sway the decision at all. And while I do understand that, I understand that the lawyers did a great job. Shout out to his team. They did a fantastic job of just raising reasonable doubt. There was a lack of strong evidence. Lack of strong evidence.

That kind of was, like, we're joking, but. Yeah. No, the testimony wasn't consistent. It was a bad case. You know, it looked like he didn't even know what he was saying that he didn't believe his story. And he brought up Donald Trump's ear, getting grazed and all kinds. It was just like, all right, fam.

So we understand that the case. Shout out to 12y. 12y definitely helped. You know, shout out to all the people that helped Rocky in his favor. 12y who had years and years ago, great, great project called last year being broke, did a campaign, had shirts that went crazy in New York. I had one too. Love that campaign.

Now, I think this year he should start the, There's no way I'll ever be broke campaign. Yeah. No, I mean. He changed that whole case. Yeah, no. He was like, no, every time I've been with Rocky since we were 14 years old, he's had a fake gun in his hand. Yeah.

It's always been fake. It's been played. Since we were children. Yeah, absolutely. I've never not seen him without a fake gun. Nah, fuck that. Yeah, for the whole stuff. We got to do.

No, definitely. And then the internet's so fucking, I'm going to say it retarded. Everyone under there like, yo, look at all the crew snitching on each other first YSel. I'm like, do y'all ever just click the clip and listen? No. 12 is testifying in regards to his man's. Yeah. It's not snitching.

Yeah, no, it was a sloppy case all around. But I am happy that, you know, I don't know, we didn't want to see Rocky go to jail over this. I would have been weak in the knees. Like, listen, there's been times where jail may have not have been that bad compared to the situation I was in already. If you have your children, your billionaire wife, your career, or jail. Yeah. My knees are buckling at that fucking decision. Look at the two.

options that you have in here. No, 50, 50. Prison or Rihanna? Listen, I'm happy, man. You know, we just got to, let's just pay attention to the coming year or two and just see how much charitable work is done on behalf of Fenty and the state of California.

Well, charitable work. All right. If you want to go down my rabbit hole, who is Rihanna affiliated with? Rock Naisters! You will cry. That was my first thought. Somebody was like, yeah, that third baby coming as someone. they say, yeah, roti on his way here.

Roti? Naming a baby Roti is hilarious. You know what? That's a funny joke. But if she announced her next pregnancy and the headline said, New Baby Roti, I wouldn't even bat an eyelash. I'd be like, that checks out. I wouldn't even like laugh at the joke.

I was like, yeah, no, actually because they have a Rizza, Riot. I think both those names are fire. Yeah. If it went to Roti, I'd keep scrolling, like, nailed the third one too. Who doesn't love Rote? You guys are smoking these names. Have you ever had ROTI?

Have you ever had ROTI? Who doesn't love ROTI? I've actually never had it. I want to try it. You've never had roti? I haven't. Oh, my God. I want to try it authentically, so.

You don't even know what you're missing, baby, Dee. Rootty? And Rihanna is half Guy and E, so I know the roti hit. Oh, my God. Because Guy in these roti is it. Well, shout out to the family. Shout out to Aesap and Rihanna and their family and hopefully, you know, Rocky. Listen, man, stay your ass out of trouble, bro.

What does Israeli do now? I don't know, man. Because you put all your eggs in a basket. Yeah. I mean. Like with no other, just like Rocky where it's 50-50, I'm either in prison or I'm with Rihanna. Yeah. This was either I get money to set me up or it's a dub for me publicly forever.

I mean, I think that was a gamble he was obviously willing to take based off his testimony and, you know, his version of what happened that day. So maybe he's not. Maybe he's like, listen, it wasn't strong enough case to prove that what I said happened. But I don't think that he's anywhere feeling like, damn like you know I've fucked up like he if he feels like if he feels like that story is true of what he said then I mean you think really wanted justice or do you think really wanted a civil suit I think you wanted both I don't think really wanted justice whatsoever I think he wanted to do the criminal because

that that way that civil suit lasts like two weeks if rocky was guilty it's a civil suit tomorrow we coming up off that money yeah I still think he's gonna file a civil suit because we've seen even like with the OJ case when he was innocent with that he did lose the civil with uh Nicole Brown Simpsons or whatever the fuck's family. He's only there for the money. Like, come on. You really think Riley was there for justice? I'm just saying, I don't know.

I think two things can be true. The one thing that was interesting was, after they, you know, read all accounts, not guilty, and, you know, the judge bangs the gavel. The judge threw a salute to Rocky and his team. Like, I was like, oh, shit. Everybody compromise. Saw Rocky's mom at court, said how beautiful his mother was.

I said, oh, this judge. judges. He's going crazy. Billionaires. I count three. Me, me, yay, and re. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get it. Four, if you count Braun technically. He's a rock boy. I get it. I understand. But the bottom of mind is. No, we are happy that Rocky is not going to jail and not facing any more criminal charges. So shout out to Rocky and his team.

I hope everyone just doesn't do some dumb shit. Like, just let Raleigh go ahead. Yeah, no, man, I think this is over. I don't think that this is, we'll ever hear any more about this. I think this is behind him. I think that Rocky understands that, you know, this was a very, very, you know, real moment for him and could have absolutely derailed his life and everything that he has going on, everything he's worked for and built towards. So I think that everybody is going to grow and mature from this situation in this moment and just, you know, move on in their respective lives. I think we finally need to apologize to Rolling Loud.

Again, we love Rocky. We respect what he's done for music. We think he's a great artist. But we've questioned for years, like, does he have some blackmail over Rolling Loud? Why do you headline every Rolling Loud? And it's like ASAP Rocky and the Beatles. It just don't add up when he be headlining with other people for, you know, the catalog.

He's headlining the LA one, I think, next month. Can we look that up? innocent you announce your title don't be dumb the same day amazing marketing i i'm sure there's not even an album i don't think he's even recorded it don't that you know what she didn't yet yeah yeah on the on walk out i'm sure his manager's like yo what you want to call it just don't be dumb and his manager was like well we're going with that posted it that rolling loud is going to be fucking nuts i think i think i think rihanna may do her pregnancy reveal on stage at this shit that's gonna be nuts that's a good lineup too can we go

They offered us something. It just didn't make sense. Oh. It's in L.A.? Yeah. Or this is the Bay. I don't know. I'm nervous.

I think Ralee has some resentments. I think he's just going to crash on this book. Oh, that's why you're nervous? You think Relly's going to crash out? Who would I be nervous about? You think Rely's going to crash out of the rule? I don't. I'm about to say, man, hell, no.

If somebody shot at you and grazed your hand, would you want justice or money? It depends on who shot me. All right. I'll be honest. I just want money. I don't really care. If you graze my hand,

I don't really care if you go to jail. Like, if you my man, if you're my man. I'm not like, if you my homeboy. I still snitch in plenty of other situations. I'm saying if I, if we had a falling out and you shot at me and grazed my hand

and you had the ability to just settle behind closed doors because you had the richest wife on earth, just give me that money and we straight for life, I don't care. I don't want to see you go to jail. But depending on who it is. Conviction, that you can do the civil to see.

What, Pete is saying that do the criminal shit and then civil. I'm saying, which we said a few episodes ago, why didn't, they have so many mutual friends. Why not try to go that route first? Like, let's just settle behind closed doors, bro. Because you very obviously can't trust this person that even if this person approached with a, oh, let's just settle behind closed doors, you can't trust this nigga because he might do anything with it. Yeah, we're sitting there talking as people that, you know, if you, if somebody shoots at you, you know, then this is what the gun was fake. Well, this is what was it being alleged here.

If somebody shoots at you, you know, I think it's a, you know, it turns on a different thing internally inside you. Like at that point, fuck the friendship that we had, fuck the relationship that we had. Like, I want to see, I want everything and more. Not just money. I want to see you in jail. You shot at me. Which means, you know, and once a bullet leaves a chamber, you could have killed me. Oh, I agree.

So you know what I'm saying? So you got to think about all of those things as being somebody that was being shot. shot at. Again, allegedly this is what happened. It's being shot at. It changes whatever moral compass you think you have, whatever you say you wouldn't do if it wasn't a friend. You know, now, if it was some random guy on the

streets of L.A. that I get into argument with and he shoots at me and, you know, come to find out he's a fucking multi-billionaire. Yeah, give me my fucking bag. I mean, to me that would be the person that I'd be like, let's go to court and do the civil... Yeah, but if it's your friend. If we got a relationship or some type of thing, like, I mean, either way I think

Rocky was going to get picked up because it was on camera. I don't think it was just because of Raleigh. Raleigh just was a witness. Yeah, and then in the state of California, once you discharge a weapon, you have to go to court for that. But also, if y'all reached out to me after getting arrested and was like, if you go on that stand and say,

you don't know who shot and this is the price point, I would do that. It's the Bronx, Bronx tail shit to some degree. Like for $20, this person will be out of my life. If you just want to give me some money, I'll go up there. you get what you want out this situation I'll get my peace of mind

with some bread and get it moved the fuck away from you yeah I get up on that stand and say I have no idea who the fuck shot me for a price for a price for free I'm not I'm not 10 toes gangster guy whatsoever I will snitch on a lot of you guys if you shoot at me but I'm just saying in that situation somebody have a relationship yeah and like you bail yo

shit got fucking crazy I don't know what the fuck was going on in my brain this and that if you get on that stand tell me what you need we never need to speak again Give me your wire information? Yeah. I don't know, man. One of the homies that shoot at me,

we are having an argument, one of the homies shoot at me, I don't know, man. It's tough, because, again, I've never been in that situation, but it is tough to be like, nah,

just give me some money and it's all good. Call it Even Stevens. You can't even Stevens after a nigga shot at me. Great show. Don't yell even Stevens. Like.

What have we been friends since Even Stevens? Yeah, but I could have not been here. I could have been dead like Fred. Niggas like, you don't want even, no, no, no. No, adding more to it of,

of which wasn't in their case, but like, let's say Rocky actually did shoot him. I don't think Rocky was trying to aim for his head. I think maybe a gun went off. It don't matter. Just think that's maybe what happened. Yeah. But I didn't hear what was-

A prop gun went off. Well, you know, listen, I have a bad joke that I don't want to make. Alex Bull with no. Okay, all right, thank you. You beat me to it. You beat me to it. I didn't hear the closing remarks, but like, what is the prosecutions or defenses theory, like, Is this a JFK multiple shooter thing?

Like, who shot? If it was only Rocky, it was only Rocky with a fake gun. There had to be a gun in another person there. Maybe he didn't get shot. Maybe he faked it. Maybe he faked it. Maybe he stepped on some glass.

You took it. I didn't want to say it. And we, you know, we just seemed, Raleigh was on a boat the next day. Like, I've never seen someone do that after being shot. Doing Dracans. He was on a boat the next day doing Drake hands. He was doing the Tony Ayo like this.

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available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just seen Meg's working in a pool. Thank God that was just a one bullet fragment. Because if they would have taken Meg's foot off, that would have been a bad thing for the whole world. You saw that recent video? No, I do.

She looks great in that pool. Some shit you shouldn't joke about. See? They're not funny. That's not funny. Get them, baby, Dee. What's not funny? You don't joke about that.

That's not funny. She's fine. She was in a pool. Yeah, it was foot grace. Great, great form. I could see evenly balanced on both, both feet. It wasn't like she was favoring one side. Still able to give it to us.

Still able to give it to us. She looks amazing. She just released a tequila too. Meg? Yeah. Chicas divertitas. Say that again? Chicas divertitas.

Chicas divetitas. Yeah, Ma, what do it mean? Okay, I'm drinking. Chikas, uh, diverted chicks. Diverted chicks? I don't know. Compromise women. Fun girls.

It translates to fun girls. Oh, okay. Fun girls. I'm glad I didn't say what I thought it meant, but I was correct. Thought I meant hoarse. Chikas divertedas. Yeah. I'm here to support and drink.

You're going to buy some for me? Yeah. Just that bottle, like I'm not. You said buy some from you? Buy some for me. I'm not the fucking. I'm not the Avon ladies. I thought you, yeah.

Walking around selling fucking mex tequila. I thought you was going door to door with the chikas. I was like, okay, maybe you didn't get your bread. Nah, I would for Mac. I would do anything. I would do anything for Salina. I would do anything for Meg. But no. No, I'll definitely drink something. But that bottle, I don't know if that's like for me to be chilling in the club with. That bottle is fire. You know, it's fire for women, for sure. Because it has a heart. It's just, that looks like a, like a girl's Halloween costume.

Can I see the picture? Can I see the picture of the bottle? Can you scroll down? Okay. Okay. Nah, niggas about to be swinging around their head. One of if I'm on TikTok, flexing with that. That's definitely for the ladies, though. If back in the section, I'll hope. I bet not see none of you niggas with the Chi guys, Divert theaters. No, don't do that. Niggas, buy it too.

Y'all need to support back too. And don't do that because his generation was going crazy with the Nouveau. Oh, crazy. You know, for sure. You're going nuts with the Nouveau. I was on MySpace like, yo, these guys five, six years older than me are weird. I never drink Nouveau a day in my life. I always thought that shit looked like perfume.

Never. Never drink Nouveau day in my life. I'm gonna take a shot of Nouveau. Yeah, never. baby then you know y'all y'all was y'all was shutting down the kick an incredible hulk so shut up man you well i mean yeah that bulls yeah yeah here on his chest hypnotic hypnotic was terrible too yeah we don't talk about you hypnotic niggas what was worse incredible hulk or thugs passion i never had i never drank any of that so what did you drink mr no fun nigga damn i was

drinking vodka i was always a vodka drinker yeah i was drinking belvedere belvedere gray goose that's what i was drinking Alizet? You didn't drink no Alizzee? Nah. What was Thugs'clock? It was Alizade and Kristall. Alizay and Cristal. You've never heard. That's one of my favorite pox songs.

Doug Spassion, one part Alzay, one part crystal. Hell, no, I'm not drinking. That shit sounds like a headache. That shit sounds, oh, stomach gonna be bubbling. No, I'm not doing that. I'm not blaming you, but even post you guys ruining the club scene and bottle that. You don't remember the Asa Spades, Ducey mixed? like for that first two weeks?

I was doing that. I was one of those people. Why? Worst headache. Why are we putting cognac in champagne? It was good, though. It tasted fine, but it was the dumbest decision

that you could ever make in your entire life. At 21, I felt like I was 40. Well, I mean, hopefully Chikas diVatitas is an actual good tequila. It tastes good, and it's not just, you know, something that Meg is just putting her name on. Hopefully it's a good tequila. I bought Teramana to support.

The rock. I could buy fucking chikas de work it does. Taramana. They support the rock. So tequila. What's Taramana? What is that? It's a tequila. From where?

Mexico. From the nation of rock. I mean like who who puts it out? The Rock. Rock Nation? Duway Johnson, nigga. I didn't know. I didn't know.

I didn't know he had tequila. In your defense, I thought she was talking about Rock Nation. I said, I didn't know Jay Z put out of a tequila. Yeah, that's what? Like, what is that? The Rock has a tequila called what? Taramana. Taramana.

Mm-hmm. What does the bottle look like on that? It's pretty simple. It's a rock, like a literal rock. That's hard. No, Tehramana is like simple. You would never know what it is. Oh, I've seen that.

Oh, wait, this is the rocks. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know this. Okay. Yeah, that's good tequila. Yeah. No, that stuff is really good. I don't know, that shit is so risky.

Like, God bless the Meg and people that just launch liquor companies. Like, for every George Clooney, there's 10,000 celebrities that have lost all their money. Oh, absolutely. But Celebrity Tequila has been going off. Like, Tehramana's pretty successful. 818 by Kendall Jenner is pretty successful. Yeah, I remember that had like a real moment. Yeah, Costa Bigo.

They were going crazy in the Hamptons with the 818. Yeah, I remember when I was first working at Def Jam, 1,800 tequila, like when you could pour like the little shot in the cap. They had every, every GZ album, anyone on the roster was just sponsored by 1800 tequila. They tried to make every rapper pump that shit up, sponsored every event. I mean, you can still get it,

but that shit tanked pretty quickly when it comes to celebrities trying to do shit. Really? 18. I wouldn't say 1800 tanked. 1800, as someone

who used to bartend, 1800 was kind of like this staple bottom shelf tequila. It was in every bar I've ever worked out. Yeah. You know what tanked with like the best marketing shit

ever? Avi on tequila when it was on entourage. I thought like when I was in high school it was like a myth. Why are you saying it tanked though? Avion tequila was on the biggest show on HBO period and then

disappeared. That was the greatest marketing campaign I've ever seen. And not one person bought a bottle. No, people still drink that. People still drink IBM. Yeah, GZ would take any tequila check that you could find. I always thought it was Avian, but Avionn. Yeah, whatever.

I see it. Let's see if Rory's wrong. Let's see what Avion did last year and sales. Oh, I can be right. I want to see what Rory's definition of tank it is. Yo. Let's see what I'm here.

Let's see what they did last year. Is it still around? Because I remember when I used to be like, yo, who the fuck wears Echo Unlimited? Then why isn't wearing that bullshit? Let's just walk outside and see that though. No, you can't. Not in New York City, you can't. You wearing Echo Unlimited in any of the five boroughs?

Yes, they were. Man, cut it out. I'm not saying they were like the wavious. Not the pool guys, but people were wearing Echo. Worst dress burrow. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I'm saying. You would laugh at them.

So you would think that nobody wore that shit. Until I did my research, it was like, oh, these things are the top three every year. U.S. Polo Assassin was a running joke for half of my life. They are still like the key store in every mall. Yeah. People wear U.S. Polo Assassin. Doesn't mean like, I'm saying Avignon just disappeared. I really think it's U.S. Polo Association.

No, it's a assassin. But we used to say, yo, we used to be like, nigga, you assassinated the polo horse? I can't believe you did that, yo. Yeah, when U.S. Polo Association is. Of course it's not. It doesn't even, does it exist? Avion still exists. Nah, man, Turtle retired.

So when I was in the process of becoming a bar manager about six months ago for an uppercum and bar or whatever and they were training us and we were having all of these tequila like companies come in and we were doing taste test and I've tried every Don Julio on the market. And I asked them because I know sometimes when things pop kind of like in our culture the higher higher ups might not notice. And I asked them, I said, have you guys seen an increase in the sales of Don Julio Reposado? And they were like, yes. They said yes. They said this past two years have been crazy. They said we pay attention to all of that. She said, I know about

the bottle on the head. I know about all that shit. And it was like some corporate white lady. And she was like, yeah, we know about all that shit. Like, I was like, oh, get off that Don Julio, act of folio. I like Donoio. I like Donoio. Me too. I can't find anything about Avi on Tequila. So I think I'm correct with one of the greatest marketing. Yeah, when we're already getting on that computer and start Googling when we say he wrong. No, because I'm actually curious. I was hoping I was wrong because I don't

be knowing shit. I was just disappointed to see such an amazing, maybe they were ahead of their time because at that point it was a vodka world. It wasn't really a tequila world when they were doing the entourage thing. So they would have smoked that now. Yeah. Speaking of smoke that,

shout out to Hove and his team for smoking. at 1-800 lawyer Tony Busby. And so ahead of his time. I beat them charges like Rocky. You know, Hove is really the greatest I've ever. He did a sentence. Man.

He's the greatest rapper, Baltimore. How did he even predict that? Listen, man, he, you know, he hobed, that's how. He knew that he would beat the charges the same time as Rocky in 2003. So Jay released a statement. Today is a victory to frivolous, fictitious, and appalling allegations I've been dismissed.

Just so rap, Hove, man. Stop. without merit and never going anywhere. The fictional tale they created was laughable. If not for the seriousness of the claims, I would not wish this experience on anyone the trauma that my wife, my children, loved ones, and I have endured can never be dismissed.

This 1-800 lawyer gets to file a suit hiding behind Jane Doe, and when they quickly realize that the money grab is going to fail, they get to walk away with no repercussions. The system has failed. The court must protect victims, absolutely. Of course, while with the same ethical responsibility the courts must protect the innocent

from being accused without a shred of evidence made the truth prevail for all victims and those falsely accused equally. I love that last line. May the truth prevail for all victims and those falsely accused equally. And then as in typical

you know, let's call him, we're going to call him Sean Carter. He's not Jay Z right now. He's Sean Carter. In typical Sean Carter, great businessman fashion, a suit was filed against Tony BuzzVee immediately after this was released. And yeah, man, I think that, you know, anybody, and I'm going to say something because I, you know, I didn't even want to talk about this when they first happened because obviously somebody that grew up so close to Jay and can absolutely, like I spoke about it, I can speak for his character. I knew that this was bullshit the moment it came out. But there were a lot of people online that have a platform, that have a voice, that seem to, you know, try to drop hints at saying, oh, it's finally all coming out.

and all of this other dumb shit. And then now that this has been dismissed, not settled, not settled, this has been dismissed. Those same people are just, you know, tweeting about other random shit

and not coming out on their platforms and apologizing for even trying to give credence to some bullshit like this. People can absolutely be, well, black people, black men can absolutely be successful and reach heights and open doors and create opportunities for people

without having some sinister past and some dark history that they always love to attach whenever people from our culture, people from our neighborhoods that look like me reach certain heights. They love to say it's because, you know, somewhere along the way they did some nasty shit or they traded in their morals and their integrity

and, you know, they drink babies' blood and they fucking rape kids and all those other dumb shit that people try to attach to success when you're black. So I just want to say, you know, hopefully those same people are somewhere fucking, you know, just miserable and upset. And there's nothing you can do about it because what Jay represents is somebody that put in the work, somebody that honed his skills and his craft, somebody has an amazing business acumen, somebody that still has his morals intact. And somebody that doesn't have to do crazy disgusting shit just for a check or just to reach some heights. get into some rooms that are deemed powerful and where all the successful people, you know, congregate at. Jay has a certain just morals and manner by himself that exudes class, that

exudes style, that exudes, you know, integrity. And I think that, you know, when people try to attack that, it's fucked up because a lot of people work hard to keep their integrity and their morals intact. And no matter how hard, you know, you try to keep your shit together, people will celebrate at the first instance of that being smeared and being, you know, destroyed. So, you know, I'm glad that this was dismissed like I knew it would be. And I'm glad that they're also pursuing some type of, you know, charges against this 1-800 lawyer Tony Busby. Yeah. And I mean, of course, there's plenty of cases that get dismissed in court that shouldn't be. But if you look at the evidence of this one, it should have been. Yeah. So to all the people that were so

excited that Jay was being accused of this. Are you not excited that somebody wasn't raped? That's what is always the weirdest shit to this. Don't you guys started caring about victims. Let's get Jay-Z under the jail. We care. We need to protect everyone. Cool. And I'm with you. I think everyone that does that shit should be under the jail, we should protect victims. Absolutely. Now that this case, with all the evidence that we do have can really clearly look at it and go, yeah, I actually agree with the court here. This is, there's nothing here. Are you not like, oh, all right, well, thank God a woman wasn't raped. Right.

Thank God a 13 year old who wandered from Rochester to Manhattan wasn't raped at a VMA party where Jay-Z wasn't at. Right. Like, thank God that didn't happen. Yeah. No, but it never goes to that. It never goes to that, though. That's what blows on my mind.

He paid them off. You know, that's what they. Oh, he paid them off. He paid the lawyers off. He paid the judge off and all this other. It's like, I promise. you, that's not how that works. Because there's been cases where I've thought people were guilty of things that they ended

up not being guilty of and you got to sit there like, oh yeah, I mean, I thought they were guilty, clearly or not. Right. Thank God that didn't happen. Right, right. Thankfully nobody was assaulted and, you know, nobody was, you know, harmed in this story. But again, like that last line reads, you know, we want justice for victims, but those falsely accused as well.

Equally, it should be justice for them. So, yeah. To that 1-800 lawyer, good luck. Because I can promise you, one thing you're going to learn about Jay is that when it comes to his name and his character, he's not going to just go away and just let that just disappear. Like, they're going to pursue all,

you know, whatever they can to make sure that this lawyer probably loses his license. And it's certain stuff, like, you just can't take back. And that was my thing with when all of this was going on. Blue Ivy. movie came out that week. And she had to go to a premiere with her mom and her dad. And that was the headline. Those were her pictures were being used for that.

Like a moment like that, my daughter's first movie premiere, you can't redo that. Like it doesn't, you know what I'm saying? So that just really was that that really like pissed me off. And it's just, like everybody's just worried about the wrong shit and trying so hard. You hate people with money so much. You hate people with money so much. And I get it. Being, being poor, being one of the 99% of people is not.

fucking fun. It's not. But hating rich people and wanting to see them go down for heinous shit is not like, that's not, it's not going to make you less poor. Yeah. It's not. It's not going to help. It's not going to help with your insecurities. It's not. Well, I mean, most, most people that don't even try to do shit or take any risk or try to work hard, just look at that as, oh, they only got that because they did some gay shit or they did some Illuminati shit. Like there, there's no way somebody could be different than me and work really hard from square one. Like, I can see you being mad at kids

that are children of billionaires and like, damn, you could have some resentment for that as a poor reason. But somebody that is from the projects, we're supposed to be mad at Hove? Because he has money? Right. Upset at that?

It's crazy. It's crazy. We can all celebrate each other's success, each other's wins. Wouldn't that be a better story to know that that person could come from the projects and actually just work really hard, be talented,

Focus on what he's doing. Make the right choices and be that way. I'm from the projects and I didn't make it. But shouldn't that person in the projects be like, all right, I'd rather believe that that story is true than that the Illuminati just came to this guy in Marcy Projects. It was like, we choose you. Yeah, you're the choice. Sacrifice this child.

Yeah. Be gay too. Right. Yeah. Stab your uncle for us. And we'll give you, can I live? Right. Like, no, I think I'd rather go with, hey, this guy from my.

community worked really hard. Yeah. He capitalized off his time. So that means I could try to do that. Yeah, exactly. That's an example of I can make it out too, but that would be asking people of too much. So we'll just have to see what this goes, but I'm willing to bet that Tony Busby will lose his license to practice law.

And I think if he has a lawsuit being filed against him rather than him representing a Jane Doe, they may have to figure out what his real last name is. You don't think it's Busby? No. Yeah. We don't find out. Oh, we definitely will. We're going to find out everything about this time.

It's not fucking Busby. I promise you that. I want to know. And that's secret meaning. Yeah. But Busby. Yeah. That's your name.

But yeah. Shout out to that legal team. We have new music coming out. New music coming out. St. John Festival season is here if you're listening to this. I'm happy for St. Man. Same worked really hard on this project.

Check out our episode of Festival Season with St. available now on YouTube. Yes, great conversation. Saint finally came back outside. It's been a while. Yeah, no, he was out. Saint was outside. He was just, he was in a different outside. Fashion outside. He jumped into the, he jumped deep into the, you know, the fashion world, fashion scene, which is something that he loves and he obviously incorporates in his music as well. So, you know, that takes time. That takes energy to kind of focus on that and to build that. But he has been working on this, this festival season. And this is just the first, I guess, capsule or installation of this festival season.

He has a lot of music he's recorded. I've been fortunate enough to hear a lot of it. It's a lot of great shit that he's doing great music. Music is a lot bigger this time around. Those that love saint and from the beginning, that saint is still there, but the music is a lot bigger now. And that's due to his experiences and traveling and just being inspired by different things, whether it's through fashion or just seeing the world.

And he's incorporated that into this album. So festival season is available now. Download that, stream that. St. John is one of those artists that, you know, he really cares about his craft. He's very meticulous, pays attention to every detail. So this is a very, you know, it's attention to details, quality. This is quality music at a high level. And it's going to be a lot of fun to because it is a lot of high energy shit that you can really have fun to.

And, you know, workout, party, day party, whatever you want to do. This is definitely a very infectious album, infectious sound. So shout out to St. John. Yeah, I'm excited the stuff I did here was great. I'm excited to listen to the full Master Project at midnight. Where are we at tonight? Is he in New York or is Enola? I'm not sure.

I didn't speak to him. I'm not sure where he is. Wherever he's at, though, he's going to be having a ball tonight because they worked hard on this. So shout out to the entire team. Shout out the big. Shout out to Simone, everybody at Rock Nation on getting this out, getting this done. So yeah, it's festival season, man. Shout out to St. John.

For sure. I didn't see too much singles or whatever I think it's a lighter Friday which I love for St. John so he can get the focus that he deserves. Did see Don Tulliver and Farrel. I know Don Tulliver and Farrel have worked in the past a little bit but has it ever said featuring Farrel?

I don't think so. Apologies, I could be wrong. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't ever remember seeing Don't Tyler featuring Ferell. I don't remember that but I am happy that you know, whatever they decided to do is called the title.

Is it a single? Yeah, LV bag. With Jay Hope. Don Tolliver's one of my favorite artists, man. So anytime we can get some Don music and, you know, anything that he's working on, I'm happy to hear it. And especially we incorporate somebody like Farrell, I'm just, my mind is already going like, okay, what did they come up with? What did Farrell's brain and Don Tolliver's brain come up with? So, yeah, I am excited to hear this joint.

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Zoom call link and set up a date and time where we would need you available to answer your goddamn phone so we can zoom you and talk some shit. And to the people that like to remain anonymous, we can just do audio. I mean, your voice would have already been there on the voicemail already. No, I want to see faces. No, no. They want to be anonymous.

That's fine. We could just have a conversation. Fuck that. Also, this is not a ploy for everyone that's trying to put out music that we are going to call you so you can rap. I just want to save Josh the headache of the amount of SoundCloud links that he's going to get. Now that Mall said we'll call you. It might be some

shit in there. It might be some joints in there. Because you're so kind to everyone that sends me. Yeah. I'm going to just let you know. If it's trash, I'll let you know that too. See? But no, I love that idea. We can reach out to everyone, give them a time and shoot that. Because I think that that would be great. I think that would be fine. Did we make any headway with the nurse? No. Okay.

Oh, the nurse. The nurse. Okay. Didn't he forgot about your date for real. I don't know that lady. It's your soulmate. I don't even know who that is. He only got a soul. Who me? I got a soul.

Where's that? Right here. So on my sneakers. You think you've met your soulmate? Do I think I met my soulmate? That's a yes. The fact that you paused like that and then repeated the question, you don't ever do that. No, because I have to think about it.

You know how many women I met in my life for you? I feel like you would remember if you met your soulmate. Yeah, but I may have met, how many, I could have like four soulmates. Oh, my lord. Yeah. I'm not like that. I don't have my niggas. I don't have my girl in the kitchen and then go in the other room. I talk to my souls right there. I put my souls in the same circle. Yeah, it's a personality disorder. Yeah, exactly. You got to. Let the souls collide collide collide. Where are you think you met your soulmate? I would hope so. He got a kid. He created life. Amara's my soulmate. Exactly. Oh, you one of them niggas that's going to make your daughter, your Valentine every year too, huh? First of all, I'm teaching my daughter what should happen on Valentine's Day for her and she should never settle for.

a man that does less. That's for niggas that I want to spend Valentine's Day with no girl. So they be like, oh, I'm with my daughter. I'm not dating. No more niggas with daughters. Every nigga with daughters, every Valentine's Day. I'm like, oh, you got a date? Nah, I'm just going to hang out.

Well, you know, my baby, my Valentine's. I know you niggas, man. Why are you hating on a man and his daughter? And first of all, I'm not one of the IG dads. I would have spent that Friday with my daughter anyways. Every day is Valentine's. It just happened to be. Every Friday is your daddy.

Like, come on, they can't do that to you. It's not your fault with Valentine's Day. But you don't think you should, like, celebrate your daughters on Valentine's Day? You definitely should. My grandmother, my mother. Every day. Valentine's Day isn't like a done, done, done a thing. Like, it's not always sexual.

Sometimes you can just appreciate your loved ones. Every day. Every day you should appreciate you. I don't know if I've met my soulmate, to be honest. Hopefully. Hopefully is. Okay. You met your soulmate, baby?

No, I've never, no. Yes, you did. No, I haven't. You got J-Pay on your phone. You definitely met your son. Stop playing, bro. Oh, you met your cellmate. I'm sorry.

I got it mixed up. She's trying to go to cell blog one. Dun dun dun dun dun da baby you got a weird case Why is she around? Never don't even say no shit like that I don't know podcast I don't have a place or shit like that But no I haven't met my soulmate yet

I'm still looking though I would I If Peach keep making clips The way that Peach makes clips I'm gonna be single for the rest of my fucking life No you ain't Peach clips me up and makes me You're gonna make the nigga

That's gonna be like yo baby D I wouldn't even care if you went The other room and took a call for real Yo them niggas tripping You know it's always a head ass nigga out there like that Baby Dio I don't even know why they mad that you went to the other room for real.

It's just, you know, they're insecure. Yeah, yo, they just, you know, projecting their insecurities on you. There were a couple people like that. Don't call them head-ass. But what Pige will do is, Pete will take the wildest shit I've ever said, clip it and won't provide no context. No, we don't need no context.

But only with me, he only does that shit with me. That's not true. He does it to you, but to say he doesn't do that to us is insane. I feel like you do it to me to mind. No, he definitely do it. He definitely do it. He definitely. We're not allowed in California because the way he clips them all up.

No, Mall. He could have clipped any part of that conversation. It still would have been the same. It would still be the same. There was niggas putting out 20 minute clips of mall. I'm scared to run into Chris Brown because of Peach. Oh, yeah, that was definitely Peach. Yeah.

That was definitely Peach. Peach be black and OD. Well, we do have a special guest joining us today. Very talented, very funny brother. And definitely one of my favorite people that I get to watch on television for years. I've been following this comedy. So we are being joined by a very funny, very special. guest. So let's get to it. Yeah.

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comedian, actor, writer, his news show, Have I Got News for You, is now in its second season on CNN, and his comedy special, Lonely Flowers, is out on Hulu now. Former, one of our former favorites on the Daily Show as well. Absolutely. Had a great... You watch The Daily Show? Sometimes.

Okay. When this gentleman's on there, I loved his roast of former president, Joe Biden, that he gave us a few years ago. That was some classic shit. You started watching The Daily Show when they started shitting on Democrats. Exactly. That took 20 years. Get them demon rats out of here. It took a long time.

Listen, I love that John Stewart tries to be in the middle now. I appreciate it. But yeah, he started tuning in when they started to be critical of Democratic presidents. Come on over on this side. Because I would assume you thought that Daily Show was funded by the Pentagon to get the- I mean, the problem is, but so, for the Clintons or so. Yeah, it's all good. But today we are joined by a very, very special guest, our guy, Mr. Roy Wood Jr.

How are you doing, my brother? Respect. I appreciate this. This is my transition in the right-wing culture. Exactly. Welcome, man. Welcome. Welcome.

How you feeling? Man, I appreciate y'all for having me on, man. I also want to show a lot of y'all for having comedians on the regular basis, man. Y'all have my partner, Felipe Espars. Yo, listen, he is a, he's, Felipe is different, bro. That's a wild boy. I was trying to hold it in. I hadn't laughed that hard in a very long time.

I'll tell you a funny thing, follow up on one of his stories he told you all about the last comic standing joint where he won the money. Okay, yeah, yeah. He won a Porter Mill from NBC for the contest. Yeah. I was in third.

I was there the night he won. Okay. We went on tour the next day. The top five comedians from that show went on tour. So imagine losing a grip and then you're on the bus with the knee you lost to. Yeah. And y'all comedians, so it's funny already.

And we're supposed to. to be like mad? We're supposed to like, you want, I'm better than you. This material. But then you find out that the nigger lost the money to child support. And you're like, man.

It was never his money to begin with it. You got to go ask her for that money. And he was the only one on the bus with a kid. So at the time, so it's like, yo, this makes sense. That's what got.

We're on tour. We making money. No beef aside. But that's, that was. It would have been funny if like he tried to shave points or something and make someone else win. Like, you'll get first place.

Then you'll just give me the money. I'll break you off. He probably could have, bro. That was like 2010. So you could have just got a phone bank. You got to connect in Hong Kong. He could have gone a loophole. You've seen the pictures where the niggas have like 40 phones up.

Moving around. Move that money around. Call the number. Vote for Felipe. Who else was in that five? It was me, my man, Tommy John again. This cat, Mike Kaplan, and R.I.P. The New York great Mike DiStefano.

He was with his kid. Oh, yeah. Okay. That was the season, Craig Robinson hosted. Felipe, though, man. Felipe just showed me how you can just move. Like, I don't know if y'all, like, so I grew up in the South. I didn't meet my first Latino till the seventh grade. Like the idea of multicultural, all that shit.

Birmingham proper is black. The city is 75% black. So I just, I didn't get to see how Mexicans move. Like, I mean, I don't. So being around Felipe was the first time. I was like day in, day out for like 90 cities. Just move without a care in the world. Nothing is that important.

It's important, but it's not important. Right. This is a motherfucker, Felipe esparser, bro. He went to the airport one morning, smelling like weed. And he just goes, I don't have my license. And you know, as a black man, you don't lead a house without. Yeah. I leave, I don't know how you move.

but I move I keep paperwork yeah I'm not going to the airport smelling like wheat and I'm not

I'm not I'm not doing that and I go what are you going to do and you're like I'll figure it out bigger we're going

four cities and four days you're going to need identification every single day on the plane bro yeah

what are you doing hey man it's what it's what it yeah you're going as far as God as my witness

smelling like we walked up to TSA and presented his marijuana card as proof of identification and the motherfucker said, cool, enjoy your flight and I that's why I know like

most Latinos ain't worried about all this deportation stuff. I don't want to say, maybe Trump did have a point. They're letting anyone on a plane with a fucking weed on. They don't care about that shit, man. They were right about that. I've been in the airport with no ID and it is a game of

As a black man, it's one of the scariest feelings of your life. I don't care many credit cards you got with your name. It don't matter. You ain't got that ID? Google, it don't matter. My man walked up smelling like Cheech and Chong. Don't care. With the weed card.

And this is when weed was still like, eh. It was too browned a little bit. So it ain't like now. Yeah. So, you know, that boy taught me how to just move through the world without stressing about everything. Yeah. Well, if you don't register for any type of ID, maybe they can't find you for child support. Maybe that was really what the thinking was that that.

point like I go get a passport or a license I will be in the system yeah and they can find me now roy you started out um opening up for one of my one of my favorite comedians that I think gets talked about the coaching of Tommy Davidson um multifaceted man yeah I mean Tommy Davidson to me is is a legend uh but it's another guy that I don't think we talk about enough uh that I love grown up Robert Townsend I don't think Robert Townsend gets talked about enough when you talk about comedy comedic writing, a film, Hollywood Shuffle, one of the greatest to me movies

or sketch comedy, whatever you want to call it. I remember having to sneak to watch that growing up. Have you ever worked with guys like Robert? Directed Raw. Eddie Murphy. Right, right. And as writing credits on it, I believe. Here is, to me,

one of the most unsung things about Robert Townsend, you know, filmmaker, stand up, just a guy. who has just been a supporter of the business, him and his relationship with the Wands and all of that. I remember 0304, y'all can Google the stats to check it. Everybody talked about BET

and they were like, oh, why BETT the only thing that's out there? You ain't got to do it. Robert Townsend put tent toes down, put his money up and tried to start something called the Black Family Channel. And it was good, clean, black family-oriented content. My man started a network from the ground up. Then at the time, pre-Deaf Jam, there was a stand-up show called Partners in Crime.

And Partners in Crime was essentially traditional black showcase show, three, four comics, and a half hour. He brought back Partners in Crime and created a new platform for black comedians to be on and broke bread with folks. And the channel never came to fruition the way that he wanted it to. But I'd be damned if everybody didn't get their bread. I'd be damned if everybody didn't get paid. I'd be damned if Robert Townsend didn't attempt to create. a platform for other creators to come in and pour themselves into, man. It was ahead of its time.

And I would imagine if he did it now 20 years later, you run it as a YouTube channel and you flip it that way and then grow it up. Yeah, it's different now. It's different now. But at the time, he's going up against Paramount and NBC and behemoths trying to start a whole network. Like, he's trying to buy an Allen the shit. Right.

And didn't have as deep of a bankroll as Byron Allen did at the time. So that was my first real interaction with him was auditioning for partners in crime, getting an audition and being invited back to tape a television show, man. Like that was like a television credit in 03. Yeah. That was goal. Major. That was goal. Like whatever you think of TikTok or IG channel is worth to you now, that's what a single appearance on television was worth.

You get booked everywhere you wanted to go after that. And so his, he continues to give back to the culture that made him. And he's never stopped that. And I think he's definitely one of the most unsung people, one of the most unsung archives of black culture in the 20th and 21st century. The network would have worked if the CIA didn't give Tyler Perry all that money. Got him, got him to fuck out of you. Is that where you think you got it from?

100%. I mean, makes sense. You don't think Tyler Perry's an agent? No, because we've seen Tyler Perry. We've seen his rise. We've seen it when they went from, you know, on Broadway, live shows. Calipari, so I used to do mornings in Birmingham, early 2000s. Tyler Perry come through with them live plays, man.

Yeah. He was sleeping in the car. Talibir being a radio station, smelling unbath. Yeah. Oh, I'm not saying he didn't put it. I say that with respect to Talibair. I didn't say he didn't put in his thousand hours or hustle. I'm saying that the CIA respected his hustle and saw him as a valuable asset.

They co-opted him later on. He's sleeping. He's working. All right, Roy, so 4-547's back in office. Okay. And I saw, you know, you have a classic, classic roast of President Joe Biden. How did you feel, first of all, during the election? Like, where were your thoughts on everything?

You being on CNN, you had to do a lot of, like, you know, talking on discussions about the whole election and everything. I thought it was closer than everything. I thought the election was closer than what everybody made it out to be. Like, everybody had like this was like a four-game sweep. It felt that way. It looked that way. Did you see the electoral votes?

Kamala Trump was, that don't feel like a four-two-six game series to you? No. I think it felt like 4-1. It looked good early. It looked good early. It was okay. It looked good early. And then it was like 20 minutes in.

Remember in 01 when the Sixers beat the Lakers in game one of the finals? Yes. And they had swept every team. It was like, oh, shit, this is for real. And then it was a sweep after that. Okay. Yeah. It was a gentleman sweep.

I think that the nation spoke, man. Yeah. It's a clean win. He landed all the blows. I think that the Democrats need to figure out how to connect with folks. And I think that when you get into the minutia of identity politics, you're dividing a lot of people. So Democrats got to figure out how to figure out how to connect with folks. Democrats got to figure out how to appeal to the masses without losing the people that they built their base on.

Right. And I think that's the fear right now. If you're a Democrat right now, you cannot legitimately say, all that. What we was talking about. Let's just talk about America as a whole. You can't do that because then you're going to lose your base. And the people that you're trying to steal from Trump's side, will they trust you? Right.

You know, I don't know, man. I do think that for midterms and for 28, it's got to be a new face in that. I don't think it can be an old face that challenges for the throne. No. I think it has to be new. I would like to see a younger, a little bit of younger, having younger options, younger voices, younger ideas running for presidency. Yeah.

I mean, you know, they talk about Newsom, and I think the Republicans respect that too, because that's why they already popping shots at him after the fires and the tricky shit with the water. Like, that's the stuff that Trump got to stop doing at some point because that's when it started looking. All right, man, you're looking stupid. You're talking about you turn the water on. on. Yeah. You didn't turn the fucking water.

He did. He went right there. He went to the ocean. That's what he was. Fire stopped. I turned on the water. It was like when he was going to nuke the hurricane. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like, do you look at a Trump supporter? They'd be like, yeah, he turned the water on. They'd be like, ah. I thought I could talk to you. Now I got to leave Thanksgiving. This is pretty much every post episode when Mall starts smoking that conversation right there.

Now, man, you went over. He turned the hose. Yeah, he turned the hose in Hollywood. You know the hose in Hollywood? You just did that. I just hope. This is my hope for, democracy, is that we can get back to a place where we have conversations based on policy and logic.

Right. That's it. Got you. Start there. You're a dreamer. That's it. Because when you start looking at him talking about Gulf of America and you start talking about, I renamed the Fort Freedom Fort Bragg. I named it back to Fort Bragg.

And then Mount McKinnell. And you're using that to justify voting for. for the man. It's like if he'd have ran on that goofy shit, you'd have been like, where the fuck of the policies, bro? If Trump had ran on rename and water, would you have been able to squarely

look me in their face and go, yes, he is the guy. I think a large majority of the country would still do that. Oh my God. No, I think he's less of the problem. It's the people he's speaking to that are the real issue. Because yes, I think out of a lot of the bullshit, like distraction issues that they

always put with us, whether it be fucking transgender their bathrooms, whatever. That is what a lot of the country, because America is dumb overall, we get passionate about stupid shit. So yeah, I can see half of the country going, you know what? Why is it the Gulf of Mexico? But I was talking about that to one of my partners, I was like, the thing that the Democrats, like, they still have not admitted, hey, we fumbled, we fucked up the game.

Like, at least in sports, when you lose, you immediately post-game. Yeah, nigga, they beat us. Yeah. We should have been better. Democrats, the day after the election, there was emails soliciting for money. Can we count on you to support the fight? My fucker, what just happened? Talk to me about the fucking game.

We just love. No, we just want to look forward and go forward and we need money. That money. And that's not cool. But this is who we have an office. So you've got to figure out a way to get stuff done. You got to figure out the way to get shit past. It can't be Democrats, filibustering the whole time and ice and everything.

Because nothing's going to get done. Yeah. Well, we have Trump celebrating Black History Month this month. And you were talking about so many people that were there. Kodak Black being one of your favorite people that's there. You said you wish you were there to ask Kodak Black. I wish I could interview Kodak Black. Yeah.

I wish I could ask Kodak Black any question about Black history. I got a feeling Kodak of fuck you. up and might know something. Yeah. He might throw you off. You would be surprised like, oh, shit, okay. He knows something. I'm sure he does.

I'm not saying he's a dumb motherfucker. I'm just saying that if I was casting the list of people who I would have thought would have been at the Black History Month celebration. But Trump pardoned him. So I think that it's part of that. Well, then just pardon me. Why you got to parade me around like a fucking stripper you got to clip. That's part of the paperwork.

No. You see work release. You see Rocky didn't go and he got a. rest of the game. Kodak is on work release right now. This is part of his work release program. This is fucking by pardoned by Trump. You got a you boy. Get over that, boy. Yeah. Stand next to the prison. You like your pardoned, don't you?

Shit, anything other beats 15 years in prison. Go over there stand next to Kwame killed Patrick right. Wait. You think Kodak knows who that is? He probably think Kualem Patrick Shug night. Damn, he pardon Shug too. If not he's going. He's saving a plate.

Who else there? Sage Steele. Okay. From ESPN. That makes sense. Jack Brewer, Kodak Black. Lil Boosie is there.

I think Lil Boosie is. Oh, give him the microphone. I think Lil Boosie is because he's been on Instagram. He's been trying to get a pardon from Trump. So he's been on Instagram. I thought it was funny that he added Trump on Twitter. Like adding someone like explaining the case. He's trying to get that part.

Bucson be adding Zuckerberg on the regular basis. Come on Zuckerberg. Give me my Instagram back. I was just showing titties one time. You remember during COVID? Yeah. Bootsie kept losing his Instagram. Yeah.

Fuck that. He was starting to entertain the people. But, um, is, so now is this, is this celebration? Is this being televised? I don't know. We're recording right now. I don't know if this is being, what is actually the celebration? What are they doing?

It's like a dinner. It's like a dinner. It's important. We remember back in the black cloth. Like, remember during COVID, everybody had on Kentay cloth. Oh, no. They ain't going to wear no. Kenet on one knee.

Sage still. To show that it was all with us and with our struggle of our people. That the movie was a brother to see Nancy Pelosi on one knee. I'm sorry, my bad. I thought it was very entertaining to see Nancy Pelosi get on one knee because I wanted to see her get up from that one knee. Because it's easy to get down on one knee. It's hard getting back up being an old lady like that. I just want to know like in their version of the green room.

Like did someone come in with a plastic bag and just start handing that shit out? I want to know how to do they get sizing for the hats? Like, I really want to know, did they steam them? Was there a stylish? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's still dope if in his own way, Trump is recognizing Black History, money. Yeah.

I think it still. I thought it was dope that because, I mean, as far as I can remember from presidents, I've never seen a president at their inauguration or when they won the election, single out black and Latino voters and thank them. I've never seen that from any president. So I thought that that was something different. I've never seen them think black and Latino voters for voting for them.

I've never seen. I think Trump knows that he still has a lot to gain by appeasing and still picking off from the Democrats voting base. Which if he's ready and up for his third re-election, which I think he's going to do. Absolutely. Then he's got to start picking off some of that and keeping goodwill between then and now.

Because if you're the average, voter that's not informed on a more granular level. You're just going to see that Trump did something for Black History Month. Okay, cool. Yeah. You don't really care about the politics of Bussey or Sage or, you know, whoever. Like, you don't care if those people can speak to political issues or whatnot. Right.

You just see that the president did something for you as far as you can say. It's no different than the COVID checks. That felt like, well, you gave a thousand dollars, sir. Cool. You got my vote. Yeah. So I think in terms of just at least at a base bare level, minimum, recognizing black history, thank you. Now, if you could all do us a favor,

Big Dog, and let us keep the black history in the textbooks that you're letting them ban because you're looking like a hypocrite. Right. Yeah. If the black history is history, then we don't even get into DEI and all that. We can argue that later. But just, if all these black people that you say is great and we should remember the history, keep them in the books. Keep it in the books, dog. I feel you. I don't offend young white kids that may get bullied because of it. Oh, I'm sorry. You don't feel seen.

I'm sorry, my brother. I was bullied in school after history class. It was you. You did this to me, white boy. Before we get to Chappelle and NBC, I did want to ask, before we got off the Trump thing, both sides, especially in the last like four years, have been accused in media of getting marching orders. I think CNN, NBC, all that is very liberal bias.

and it goes without saying that Fox News is biased with the Republicans. Being on the Daily Show and CNN in those writers rooms or pre-production, have you ever experienced marching orders or things that you can and cannot say? No, not necessarily marching orders, but, I mean, it's always stuff that you've got to figure out the best way to juggle it. Like, we came back on air before I quit. So this timeline matters for what I'm trying to say is seems convoluted. So the writer strike happens 23, summer of 23. We come back the week after October 7th happened with everything with Israel and Gaza.

And so the week before we came back, and we know we're coming back to air, emails are starting to fly and pictures are starting to fly. Now concurrently, I'm having contract negotiations to decide whether or not I'm even coming back at all. Okay. But at the time, I'm still on the email threads and the writer's threads. And the conversation is about how do we want to approach this? What's the best way? Because there's no humor in the death. And I mean, generally speaking with The Daily Show, if it's a tragedy, the jokes are either in the causation or the solution.

And whoever's obstructing one of the, whose fault is it that it happened or whose fault is it that it ain't fixed? Those are your jokes. You don't talk about the pain in the middle, right? And so there was never mandates from Viacom International that go, you can only and do not ever know this. So no. And then I quit. I made the decision to leave the show before we came back from the writer striking.

Then I got locked out all the emails and I see shit else. The only thing I will say to CNN, one thing that I have found interesting that's a little different is that in certain shows, there may be a certain topic that another show is going to go in deeper on. So they may stack the order. Like if you got Abby Phillip at 10 and then you got Laura Coates at 11 and then I go on Abby and it's roundtable. Laura's more one-on-one. Yeah. I can go on Abby, I can go, yo, do you mind if we talk about pop-pop-pop tonight?

Well, we can touch on it a little bit, but Laura's going to be doing a deeper dive on that. So we're not going to go as deep as you may want to go on that. All right, cool. I respect that because you don't want to take the fire from Laura Coach. because Laura wants to really go in on it. And it's the same game with Caitlin Collins, who comes on before Abby. So there seems to be a little bit of how we pepper the topics

because what you also don't want is all of CNN prime time talking about the same shit. So you've got to kind of mix it up a little bit like that. But our show, if I'm speaking specifically to Saturday nights, we get to do whatever we want, bro. Like, we're a British remake of a show that's been on 30 years. So we baptized in the legacy of a show that's already worked. Saturday nights, it's supposed to be comedic.

It's supposed to be weird. It's supposed to be edgy. We've made some really weird jokes. I haven't watched last week's edit yet, but there was a Nazi salute joke in there that I know wouldn't have worked on Caitlin Collins, Abby Phillips. Hear how Abby talks off, Mike. So we get to take it there a little bit. but I've never been checked by anybody on anything as of yet.

I think what you all are talking to, and I get what you all are saying, because I feel like the issue has been with a lot of liberal media is figuring out how to address something that the right agrees with without pissing off their base in the same hand. And I don't think it's possible to do that. You just got to have, motherfuckers just got to be mad.

Yeah. We had on Tennessee Republican Tim Burchett, that boy Whatever Mitch McConnell vote yes on Tim Burchard vote yes two times Straight DMs How could you have them on? Why would you give audience to this

And that and that Why not? Hey big dog The next four years They got the ball Yeah So if we're going to have conversations Around policy

And use humor as an entry point To why they think the way they think Mm-hmm Gotta have them all Yeah Yeah Yeah, because that's like outside looking, and even with like Fox, with the Luigi thing, for example. Yeah.

I was very curious how that was going to be pivoted in mainstream media because now the new Republican base is supposed to be anti-establishment, anti-government, anti-health care and all that type of shit. So I was like, oh, Fox is in a pickle. This is going to be weird because they may offend some of their base. And it felt like they got a mass email to every single pundit that said, hey, we don't agree with killing CEOs. It'll put us in jeopardy. You all hate this. And then it was just the same talking point for the entire day. And I guess as viewers, that's how it looks across the board with media now.

That everyone just gets an email. This is our view today. And we're all just going to talk about it in a different way. This is what you have to stay on and then make it your own. It's like when we do ad reads, here's what you have to say. Make it your own. Yeah, Casper Mattress, the best mattress. I love the mattress.

No, I've never gotten an email like that. Like, Comedy Central is weird, though, because, Daily Show was always seen as like the weird, like that single wide trailer out outside the school that didn't really follow the rules of what was happening in the building. I can't speak on what's happening over there now, but I know I know anybody ever told John Stewart what he going to talk about and I mean,

first day back he called Joe Biden old. Right. I guarantee you, wasn't no email going out, please call Joe Biden old. Right. You know what I'm saying? Please call him useful. Yeah.

Yeah. He's the healthiest he's ever. So it's like even if you take a shot at a Democrat and you watch these shows, the audience will moan. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think the one line they've drawn, at least what I felt on a lot of shows, is if the crowd applauds Lou Ge, like the shit that's national, where they mention Luigi and the audience applauded and cheered for Luigi, right? Was that with Burr's monologue?

No, it wasn't. It was a weekend update. It was Joseph and Chey. I don't remember what the story was, but they mentioned Luigi and just off the picture, the crowd. And everybody was like, oh, the liberals, you're fucking exciting. You're getting them horny for murder. Yeah, horny for murder. You can't lean into that, but I think you can legitimately say that, hey, the dude did something that a lot of people didn't agree with.

But what motivated him was something far sinister that needs to be addressed. Yeah. And it's a way to say both of those things without just going, oh, murder, murder bad, therefore let's not talk about any of it at all. Yeah. As far as I know in our show, we've been able to sneak in those fucking points. Yeah, I ask because Chappelle said that he was censored by S&L with his latest monologue about trans issues in Gaza. And sorry to our listeners, I'm repeating myself again, but I do want some of my fucking flowers. I've been complaining that the only Chappelle monologue that ever got taken down in history of SSN,

No monologues been taken down. He talked about the Jews when Kanye West did that whole shit, and it's the only one you can't find. And to me, that's insane because there's monologues about molesting children that are up there now with millions of views. Really? The one, the most recent Chappelle or the one from a year ago. Year ago. It was when Kanye did like drink champs and all that shit. Yeah, yeah.

That Chappelle went up there, said a few things. I think the one line was, if they're Italian, it's a mob, they're black, it's a gang. if they're Jewish, it's just a coincidence and we should never talk about it. And that was the closing line, yeah. Pulled the whole thing. It's a brilliant monologue is one of my favorite Chappelle ones and it's gone.

So this doesn't shock me that Chappelle said this past week when he went on that he couldn't talk about trans issues or Gaza, which I mean, cool. He's ran the trans thing to the fucking ground. So just from a comedic level, I don't really care if he talks about that or not. But limiting Chappelle to not talk about Gaza

at that time on a platform like SNL is that's crazy. What I would have loved to have heard is what he would have said or done. You know, I've seen, I've seen the actor Chappelle's touring, at least the material of the last, let's just say, four or five months, right? Just from the top of 2025. And he's got some stuff in there about Gaza, but I didn't see all of that in SNL. So I don't know what he told him for the next hour or whatever.

Yeah. But he mentioned Gaza in the. At the end of the last. But it was more of a plea to Trump about doing a. right thing yeah it was just one line at the end pray for um pray for people that's being you know lost their homes through the fires and things like that do we have to pray for people in in gaza as well yeah regardless of how you lost your home you lost your home so i mean i don't know i find that a little uh because i mean if if lauren michael's who is a legend but is also supposed to be more on the

liberal non-censoring side it's of course it's still NBC at the end of the day yeah it's all censorship but he's supposed to be that liberal comedian that always pushed the boundaries which made SNL when it was taboo to say certain things on TV, he allowed it. So we're stopping now because of the Jews? Like, that's where we draw the line on everything? It might be for him, depending on where the money

come from. Yeah. I think like, I mean... But that doesn't... We've seen Dave walk away from more money than most people probably would ever walk away from. So when you say that, it confused me because it's like, but we've seen Dave stand on things that he believes in, walk away from a lot of money and still be able to come back and still be as successful, one of the greatest ever.

So now for NBC to have him on S&L again and then try to censor somebody like Dave Chappelle doesn't really make sense to me because it's like, well, we know who Dave is and you know what he stands for. But like you said, where's the money coming from? I just don't. Is it just about the money you think?

Because we've seen Dave completely not give a fuck about money. Absolutely. So then I think Dave still saw it as a value judgment. All right, you don't want me to talk about that. Well, I can talk a little bit more about this. And maybe this appearance still makes sense for me. it's still an opportunity to get some reach. And then I'll just out you on the backside.

And then knowing Dave, he's going to take the whole experience and just put it on stage and it'll be on Netflix in a couple months. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, I think this may be the one time where I don't actually think it's about money. It's about that community. Because I think there is, unfortunately, a lot of money in being pro-Palestine and talking about that on a network. I think there's plenty of advertisers that would want to get behind that message because they would deem it to be the cool message. This is a community thing to me. This isn't losing money.

This is, hey, I'm part of this community and this community doesn't play that type of shit. Okay, so then that means that this community doesn't play this type of shit. Then that means that if you let somebody on your show to do something that I don't agree with, then what's the cost? And then you have to ask yourself if you're Lauren Michaels,

are you willing to pay the cost for letting someone come on your show and do something that pushes back against people that have supported you? Yeah. And so that's why I feel like the idea that, this idea of freedom of speech, man, is very loose. You know? It's very gelatinous.

And we try to act like freedom of speech. It's this concrete thing that we're all entitled to and that you will get it no matter what. I'm care where you go, who you work for. If you say some shit, eventually you will come to a line where someone goes, we don't fuck with that. Right. Like it's been cats, it's been banned. I know cats. I know cats that got kicked off Twitter, then went to YouTube, then went to Patreon,

and then went to their there's another one. Only fan? No, it's not Only Fan. This is before. Getting banned from Only fans be crazy. Ban Lily Phillips.

We'll get to that. But I bet you, but I bet your only fans has a line too where they go, all right, you can't do that. Yeah,

yeah. They have a line if they got caught. If someone brought attention to some wild shit on their platform, then they'd be like, of course. Yeah,

once we don't subscribe to this. You know, I don't know. It's like, it's, if they, I'm not surprised that a network

told they perform former, please don't do something that can start a bunch of shit with people that could be bad for our bread. I'm not shocked that that happened. Dave choosing to still go along with it, to me is strategic. I don't think it's him just laying down and allowing himself to be told what to do or whatever. I think that the thing that comedians have is y'all have this ability to push the line and say things and you get to let you get the, you know, the LOL button we call it.

like people laugh at it. But you have the great ones have a way of saying things and having the truth to it. I'm still making people laugh, which is something I think Dave Chappelle does well, Chris Rock does well. Even you done very well throughout your career. Is that something that, because a quick story, I was at a restaurant over here and at a bar, sat down, Chris Rock was sitting there. And he was writing.

He was looking at something on like his phone, which looks like news and things like that. So I'm like, okay, so this is like, to me, it seems like this is the time. time with comedians understand what's going on in the world. They take things that are going on real issues, try to find that fine line of let's address the issue, but let's also try to find some humor somewhere in there where it's going to kind of take the heaviness off of the situation. Because even through tragedy, people still need to laugh. People still need to be entertained. That's something I think we'll never get away from. But is that something that as a comedic writer, you stand behind like, okay, this is a real world issue. But,

Let's try to find that funny, you know, moment where we all can come together and agree and like, yeah, that is true. Yeah. And that's where you start getting into the censorship because the joke is just the delivery vehicle for the message. Right. And so if you have a network where you don't want a particular message to be as verbalized or broadcast to people, then I can't let that joke happen.

Right. And I don't care how funny it is. I just don't want that message on my particular. channels. Right. So that's where you start getting into the censorship of it all. And I mean, that's not just Israel, Gaza. That could be trans issues.

Right. I mean, just on a more surface level, when you do late night sometimes, when you do a set on a late night show, hey, could you not do political jokes? And they just say, fuck all political topics. Yeah. You don't even talk about gun control. Come on here and talk about your kid and buy. of strolling and buy-bye baby or something like do that joke instead right because you'll send a

booker a 10-minute chunk and from that 10-minute chunk they go here's the five that you should do on this show okay and they'll pick around all that edgy shit that you man yeah you know i had a joke years ago on letterman it was the only time i was on letterman probably why It's somewhere on YouTube, but I went on Letterman, and I don't remember the setup of the joke, but essentially it was about Mexican farm workers and just wages or some shit. And the basic premise was that, you know, I respect Latinos because in America, if you want your group to be respected sooner or later, you have to pick fruit. You have to pick an item.

You have to do yard work in this country. if you want rights, we need to know you did yard work. Asians did the railroad, you know, black people, and it's Mexican str... And that's all the joke. And mother fucker, the emails after that. Yeah, we're just not sure if that was the right... It was funny. And the layers of approvals that have to happen.

Every word in late night, if someone's performing... moment on late night, there's a transcript. Yeah, yeah. There are no surprises anymore in late night. It's like, you want to talk about censorship. Like, we need to know every word so that if you deviate from a word, we know whether or not to cut your mic. So, you know, I don't know, man. I think that I think that every network, every place has a line in the sand of what they're willing to allow.

I just think that freedom of speech is just freedom of speech. freedom of speech so long as it doesn't fuck up my bread. Yeah. It's generally what it seems to be in our society now. Especially with all these media companies, you know they broke. All these media companies are broke. So they can't afford to lose one fucking penny of advertising. Yep.

And I mean, the only time I think I've seen someone really go off script, ironically, was John Stewart when he was on Colbert with the COVID shit. That was the first time I was like, oh, there was no telemarked. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we just talking of Wuhan. Because we had like Chris Osefano on. He was saying the same shit of like, yeah, I had to submit my whole set. Like I was reading a teleprompter of my own set.

You can't miss a word. Watching John Stewart, dude, that shit, I was like, yeah, there's no way that was on any Q card. But you have to earn that. Yeah, for sure. You earn that. And Chappelle has earned that. Absolutely. If Chappelle, it went off script the way he wanted to, he still would have.

It still would have aired. And then they would have scrubbed it from the internet, the same as what they did with the Kanye shit. Yeah. But the average performer does not get that freedom. And if you want that freedom, you have to do what you all have done and create your own space for it. Because it's a lot of what we've even talked about just now. That shit ain't getting green lit for a chit-chat with Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy wants three topics for you to talk about.

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I don't know, bro, but I'm trying to hit a lick. Put me on one. The latest one, Delta Airlines flight from Minneapolis, crash landed in Toronto. If you saw the video, the runway looked like it was full of snow, ice everywhere, and it flipped upside down. But now Delta has responded, and they're offering each passenger. Luckily, nobody was, no lives were lost on this crash. But Delta has responded, they're offering $30,000 to each passenger on that flight. I was with Roy.

I'm here to catch a lick. Like, I'm one of those people that, like, walks on the crates in New York City, like hoping one of them will fall. Yeah. I'm about that. Yeah. But 30-k, I, the way that shit flipped over, I don't know if 30K is the lick that I'm, I'm, that's a six-digit, man, bro.

Yeah. That's a six-digit. That's a risk for plate-gras. That's a risk for play-gras. 30-K after taxes? I'd be six, yeah. It was a fireball. It's the best possible scenario.

I don't know if you saw the footage of the plane crash and slid, it rolled. Because it rolled, both wings broke off. That's where all the first of the, fuel is. Yeah. So you basically like the fireballs behind us. So now we just in a tube, bro. I'm with that shit, bro.

Roll me in a tube down a freeway. Planes land in about 150 miles an hour. Yeah. Give a take a little slower maybe depending on the size of the... 150 miles an hour in a tube. Yeah. 300 yards. $200,000, I think, is the number.

That's what you're comfortable at. I think 200. Is this what we talking about after taxes? shit lawyers and shit yeah and you got this was in Canada so you have to figure out that whole currency exchange situation

7, 700 yeah yeah comfortably 7700's a lick like settled we don't even need to take it to court here's the money

I'll sign whatever medical waivers whatever like I gotta you know give me a couple neurological give me some free MRIs to make sure my shit straight but going in

do you know that you're going to survive because that's I would do it for 20 if I knew I was just going to And I fly, those are CRJs. I fly that all the time. Yeah, that's like when you're going down to D.C. from New York. Yeah.

A little two-hour flight plane. And from New York to Toronto. That's the same plane every time. Yeah, I'm getting on a Delta flight tomorrow. I'm scared shitless. Y'all should be. You know they fired a bunch of air traffic controllers. They're doing a bunch of layoffs at the FAA.

There were two planes that just collided two single passenger planes. Arizona was in Arizona over an airport that has no ATC. so like small airports there's no nigger there's no crossing guard it's just yo if you know what you're doing yeah yeah you know in the neighborhood after a thunderstorm and the powers out and you just got to trust each other the intersection but the sky no you're going to hit your high beams you know what you get that high beams let the nigger know what you got hit that high beam three times now you go you know what I'll just pull over and let them decide. That shit is a stressful job, bro. And my fuck is just trying to keep 30, 40 planes all in air

at the same time. I thought it was interesting how the stewardess was saying, don't record, like, telling people don't record anything as they would like exit in the plane. Like, we don't want this to, no, no, we're recording this. I need this for my lawyer. I need documentation. Yeah, I need to see, you show you, I'm getting off this flight that's flipped upside down on the runway. I would have went right on Twitch if I survived the Sully Hudson miracle shit. I've been live streaming like through the water. Like, you know, it is car. old as fuck. We in this bitch.

You got to rule. Who you know be on the wing? You know what you didn't see, though, in that Delta evacuation video? What you didn't see is whoever was in that exit row seat who was supposed to bend their monkey ass right there helping everybody else. They're gone. They're gone. Scared ass, motherfucker.

Yeah, I'm out of it. But we talked about that a few weeks ago. I think right when I just went on a trip of how much the airline industry doesn't give a fuck about us because I've sat in the exit row a million times. They walk by me. Like, yeah, do you want to know my name? Like anything about me? No. No. Like if I can handle a pressure situation, are you okay? Yeah. Can you live 50 pounds? Yep. All right then. Read the card in your seat back pocket. Why are you giving me an attitude about your safety? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, they don't give a fuck. They put anyone there. They'll put an air marshal in first class, but not an air marshal next to the

exit row. But see, this is the issue though, and this comes back to Trump. The Delta crash, the Toronto rollover happens, then Arizona happens. And then Pete Buttigieg is trending on Twitter. He's sat in that same seat. That's our guy. It's his fault. And he's in charge. It's because he's gay.

The gays are ruining the sky. Like, that's where it's like, come on, man. Y'all got it. Y'all won. Y'all in charge. Own it. He's a ruin in the sky. No, I just find it because, you know, I'd be on Republican Twitter sometimes for laughs.

And like after the thing that happened in D.C., all these like out of shape fucking bum-ass Republicans are like this DEI pilot. I'm like, Shorty has a thousand hours in an Apache helicopter. She'll whoop your ass. Just people that do nothing, contribute nothing to society, not healthy, are saying DEI to someone that knows how to fly in Apache helicopter. You know that's what they're already spending on this trip too, because the company that runs their CRJ service, they have done a lot of all women flights before. And they're going, this is the same company. It's stupid.

It was a dude on that flight, though. But now you're just going, well, this company as a whole. So now is it any company? Is it all women that crash planes are all blacks? Or is it companies that hire all women than blacks? And it's like, all right, now you're stretching the narrative a little bit. But there's no way as a Democrat, how do you fight back from that? That's the problem is that.

That shit is working, bro. is. Yeah, no, it's definitely working. But it's also working because not all Democrats, but most Democrats do try to make sense to some degree. Republicans throw common sense, they're not going to let that fuck up their argument. Like, the fact that they put this woman in charge of the JFK files that the Republicans put, I'm like, where is there the, where's the DIA shit now? What does this woman do? She can't read. Women can't read. What does she know about the CIA? The Democrats' best defense against Trump so far has just been

n uh-uh that's it no uh this DE and I's crashing the plane? No, uh, stop you had to fight back. Yeah.

I love it though, man. I mean, not people crashing. I'm not going to play some of the law. I give what you said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but even then, all the Republicans

like any woman that they put in charge of something, none of their base will say DEI. be like, oh, well, she agrees with Trump, so she must, she must be smart. I just think it's funny. She's fit for the role. Spirit Airlines is thriving, plane hasn't crashed, nothing. They just like, y'all had all these jokes for us for years about Spirit Airlines.

None of our planes have went down. Frontier thriving. Like, we chill it over here. That's what Spirit should tweet. Yeah. If I was, that's funny. If I was another airline, I'd be talking shit. If you're spirit, you have to lean it to all of this.

Like we told them out, like, find it. tragedy we understand but y'all know who ain't crashed yeah exactly the father the son and the holy spirit that should be the tweet um let's uh let's get to this lizzo shit man i don't i don't want to be horny but lizzo look high man but lizzo i'm not mad at it man lizo has always been pretty we we've talked about oh yeah always for sure always been pretty now it's a little different always been very positive and very you know secure about her body and her shape cool but now She's just different.

Yeah, but now she's focusing on being healthy and getting in shape and working out. And now she's, you know, doing the same thing she's been doing. She's been showing us her body. This is just to know her new body ever since she decided to go on her health journey. Yes, there's trap it up. I mean, you get the new body. You want to show everybody. Hey, look at my ass.

No, she was showing the body before. I mean, got kicked out of the staples. I'm saying now she should go to a Lakers game with her ass out. Now I believe she's okay to do that. Before I didn't feel that way. Yes. Now it's like, now it's okay. Now it's like, all right, that was too much before.

You can have your ass out in front of children now. I don't care. No, Lizzo looks great, man. Like, she looks great. I'm happy that, you know, she's on this health journey, working out, exercising, eating, eating, right. Because her music, her talent, Lizzo is very talented. But, you know, she falls into that category of probably trying to do things to get attention.

That's not music related. But she's super talented. And I just love the fact that she's on this whole journey and taking care of it. How do artists or do artists, how do artists or do artists, Or do artists have a responsibility to the feeling of abandonment they may create within their fan base when they've built a following on body positivity? It's a really interesting question. Because there's a lot of people, because the same thing happened. And it's a, it's a little funnier in a way.

But the same thing happened with Monique, way early. You know, Queens of Comedy, Monique physique is not Monique. Now and then Monique wrote a book called Skinny Bishes are evil or Skinny or the Devil or whatever and then every big girl was like wait a better bitch why'd you get skinny on me right right right right I thought we was in this plus size shit together I thought he's big for life yeah yeah so I you know I think it's I think that when there's backlash for losing weight right because like Lizzo like even in losing weight she's dealing with backlash from people going well I thought you

was supposed to fucking stay that same shape and love who you was yeah I think it's about just loving yourself as you are and just being allowed to change. Absolutely. It has to come with like the messaging because she can't lose her fan base and saying, understanding that some people just hereditarily cannot lose weight and some people just can't get Ozempic either, still making sure they feel good about themselves, but also pushing, hey, we also need to be healthy. Like I don't think, I think there's some good shame and some good bullying to some degree. I think there is a line.

I think we should bully people to be healthy. That is very important. I'm not actually shit on their entire life, but you should encourage your fan base if they are overweight by choice to be healthier. Yeah, I don't think that's a bad message to tell the pace that you've been encouraging to embrace your curves.

Okay, then is it about, then I don't know, the comedian in me goes, well then do you have to acknowledge the change? Because like most comics, when they go through an evolution as a person, there's a special that could... Yeah, yeah. Okay, y'all, I've decided to lose weight now.

Like, Jim Gaffigan is a great example of this shit. Gaffiggan built his whole career on chubby hot pockets and all that shit. Well, last special, and talks about it. Yeah. So I think that, you know, I don't know. I wonder if there's a disconnect. Like, how do you feel good about yourself without making people feel bad about themselves at the same time? I'm sorry.

I'm just laughing at a Jim Gaffigan fan going on. He got skinny on me. Yeah. There's no way men are to doing that. That saddened them more than him being anti-Trump. They were fine with him, not like in trouble with Gaffig and lost weight. They're like, wait a minute. I mean, yeah, I definitely think with women is obviously a bit crazier.

But yeah, she needs to have that one sit-down interview. Find some woman in media. I don't know if it's gay. Baby D, how do you feel about Lizzo's new portrait by bitch to the old picture of herself? Well, I don't know how Lizzo felt about her. I know what she portrayed to feel about herself, but I don't know what she actually felt about herself. I know some people look at it, like he said, as a betrayal.

But if you weren't eating right and doing the things that you were supposed to be doing, or even if you were and you weren't making, sometimes when you're not, when you don't like the way that you look, you make really stupid decisions about the people you keep around you because you don't feel like you're worthy of better. It could happen subconsciously and you don't notice that until you're out of that space. But it's like I could have only been dating this demand that I was dating because I felt like I wasn't good enough for something better.

So even if she wasn't ashamed of the way that she looks, it's more of a, I didn't feel like I was good enough and I allowed people to treat me like I wasn't good enough. So that could be the by bitch she's talking to, the person that made decisions like that. But I don't know. I can't speak for her, but I do get where you're not going to win. If you lose the weight, people are going to be like, oh, it's supposed to be fat bitches for life. But if you don't lose the weight, you're getting dragged, like even with y'all making the jokes of, oh, she could go to the Lakers game half naked.

Now, if she was a skinny girl when that happened, nobody would have given a fuck. Girls be half naked all the time. No, that was a joke because when that did happen, we were on the side of nobody should have their ass cheeks out at a Lakers game. Yeah, nobody should. I don't care of, no, it's a Lakers game. If Drea was out at the Lakers game with her ass out,

y'all wouldn't be complaining. Stop. I would say put on some fucking jeans. You're at a basketball game. No, that's not true, baby, D, because when Kanye and his wife did the red carpet for the Grammys, we was like, you look great, but what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, that's naked. We can see your, you're naked.

lip like on the red car. Well, Rihanna wore that diamond, Savarski diamond dress. You could see Rihanna's nipples. You can see her whole entire back of her ass. Stop. Stop. You don't even believe what you just said. There's something has to do with taste art, fashion, etc.

As compared to being butt-ass naked with your pussy out at an award show. Yeah, it's a little bit. Please tell me that there. No, it's a, okay. It's very nice. Y'all are, it's all about, it's all about print it. Fashion connoisseur, so.

But is it about the fashion or is it about the body part? Because plenty of people show up body parts, but because y'all like the outfit more. I think what Lil Kim did was more iconic based off a fashion and moment than her just walking on the red carpet butt-ass naked. That's not a moment. But I'm not talking about her. We're talking about Lizzo. Can we pull up the picture of Lizzo with her ass on? I just, I mean, when she went to the Lakers game, it was just like a t-shirt and the ass was cut out in the bottom of the t-shirt. Like I was trying to make a moment. It wasn't like Yeah, it was like, it was like, uh, you know what I mean? She was trying to make a moment, but if

All I'm saying is if she was a skinny deemed like hot girl, nobody would have cared. Nobody would have cared. I think people would have cared. I think people would have cared because it's like, yo, first, like you got word, like t-shirt and just the ass is cut out on the t-shirt. Like people would have talked about it. Like they talked about, you know, Bianca on the carpet. But it was like that was just completely new. Now, if you're showing, if you have a dress on, like you said with Rihanna and it's showing a little nipple, you know, nipples is just kind of sheer.

kind of dress. This is a little more taste than class. It's time and place to me. I think the Laker gang. No, that's just like Rihanna at the award show. Yeah, that's just, that's at the Laker game. Well, listen, I, me personally, I don't want anybody to wear that. But I'm just saying when it comes to the standard, when men start picking and saying,

oh, you shouldn't wear that. And this, this, and that, it all depends on who they're attracted to. So my point, my original point in that is when you are smaller, you're berated less. Like, it just is what it is. So she's going to catch backlash no matter what the fuck she is. And I feel you on who Lizzo maybe had in her life or whatever, this and that. But also she may have went to the doctors and they said, hey, your organs are not doing great. The valves in your heart suck.

You need to get healthier. And I'm sure Lizzo didn't go, oh, no, but my fan base wants me fat. No, she cares about living longer. I'm not going to sit and think like, I'm going to offend my fan base and then I'll die. Like, nah. I'm going to get skinny. Well, either way, she looks, she looks great. I mean, I'm happy for Lizzo.

She looks like she's happy. She looks like, you know, she's in a better space, obviously physically. She seemed like she'll give us, like, two more albums than a daytime talk show. Yeah, that seems right. And I mean, I'm in a good way. Like, daytime talk requires a level of joy in your heart. I mean, she's got that. Like, Lizzo getting skinny is way less of a problem than Lily Phillips fucking a thousand men.

To me, that's a worse message. Now, this is crazy. Lily Phillips, who obviously did, she did an origin. if you want to call it. Slept with a thousand men a couple weeks ago and now she's reporting that. Is that an orgy? Well, I mean, or train, whatever you want to call it. A long-ass train.

She announced that she's, Amtrak. She's pregnant. She's pregnant now as a result of this train ride that she went on. Which one of the lucky passengers do you think is going to come forward and say, oh, and how do you even go through that? Do all men now have to take DNA to paternity test?

I mean, I guess they'll go in order. and if it's the third one, then they'll save some money. But if it's a guy that went last, then they're going to have to go through everyone. She's probably faking this. I'm probably on that side, too. Really? You think so? Yeah. But why would she fake this?

Not to say you can't get pregnant or birth control. Like her brain. No, but that's why I say why fake this if she slept with a thousand men. So it's like, why it was 100 men? No, she's a hundred. That's not. Oh, Bonnie Blue was 1,000. Lily Phillips slept with 100 men in one day.

makes it better. Okay, this is wifey material. That's fine. Yeah. So we could, yeah, she's a, she's a, yeah, the other one's a whore, but this. This one is a very, very, you know, respectful.

This is going to be a nuclear family. But how do they go about this though? Like, how do they find who the dad is? Everyone has to do DNA. You got to, you just subpoena everybody. That's crazy. Everybody get paperwork. Also, I think in that window of the 100 men,

there's no way she didn't sleep with other people, too, that month. Like, I think it's more than just 100. How would you feel? No, she probably, like, fasted. Like, right before, you know, right before Thanksgiving, you kind of like, just do green juices. Like, I don't think she.

Tighten it up. Yeah. Get it ready for the big fight. You got to rest. She got to meet that weight. You got to meet that catch weight. Dude, HBO, 20 for 20. God, imagine being that dude.

Imagine being a dude and it's yours and you've got to explain to your son. That is crazy. That child has lost already. Every fight. school every every dozens, every Jonah, Nate, can't win. We used to talk like 10 years

ago of like, damn, pick a wife out this bunch. They have some racy photo on Instagram that you have to explain to their kids. Kids are going to bully them, bring it back up. I never thought it would get to this. That woman with her ass out on Instagram is going to look like a saint. But all our kids are in middle school getting bullied. I don't know.

I mean, I have some friends in the adult industry. I've never really asked. But I just assume that she would be on birth control during this, this feat that she was trying to accomplish. Like I would have assumed she was on birth. That had been my first question when the subpoena show up. Yeah, like she wasn't on birth control. You weren't on the pill, motherfucker.

You can't stop God's plan more. That is true. The Lord was in the room. And whatever was going to happen was going to happen. Lord, can get the hell out of here. If I'm the father, yeah, I'm not on. Not what I need it. Yeah.

I feel, I think this is the only time it's okay to abandoning your job. You deserve a child if you get in line for that. You deserve a reminder. It takes a certain type of man to kind of step up and take that test and then it be the father and then say, okay, I'm going to raise this child. That's a, you might be dad of the century if you do that. Like, how do you step up to that plate and say, okay, I'll raise him. Imagine being able to Google your conception and watch it. And watch it.

Like, there it goes right there. That's the nativity scene That day goes right there Just watch yourself Being created It's crazy And you know kids are curious That they

That kid especially with those genetics From that woman And any man that would weigh in that line That kid is looking up how he was conceived Yeah that kid is a fighter He's gonna be somebody Whoever this kid is he's gonna be somebody He's gonna be somebody

Do my son is third grade And he came home one day And he told me I googled Roy Wood Jr. I go, what you find? Comedy stuff. Yeah. I go, what you Google after that?

Roy Wood Jr. Kid. I go, what you find? Pitches of me, you, and mom. Yeah. Good. Yeah. What if that, my coach? Would you have to understand?

Your legacy in comedy is one thing. I don't think this woman's ever going to top this legacy. So the moment he types in just her name, period. He's not got to type in Ann Kid. No, yeah. That's popping. up immediately. I don't think she's going to be known for anything else for the rest of her life. That's sad. That you have to put an extra SEO there. Remember when the bar for sex tape was just

fuck once in a grainy video and maybe. Right. Little dialogue. Little dialogue here and there. When you really think about Ray J. Kim Kardashian, that wouldn't even move the needle today. No. No, it's kind of like romantic of a couple on vacation. Like it's not even some nasty, if two people in a relationship on vacation. You wouldn't even retweet that porn on Twitter. No. Back in the Twitter at the darkness. Keep your home archives away from you, weirdos. Yeah. But now you have the baseline as a hondo. And then the other person did a thousand? Yeah. And I love the, like the hustle in that. You didn't even want to go to 200. No. That's the wildest auction ever. Someone bets 100 and then you go right to a thousand?

I don't know. I just, I didn't know that endurance pussy was a genre. Yeah, that's definitely porn. That's definitely a genre. How much can you take? How much can you take? I don't, wait. Yeah. That does nothing.

I never care to see no shit like that. Never. Like, I never cared to click on it, nothing. And in the video, can you see all the guys, or is it like their heads are cut off? Or like, I'm sure you can see them. I'm sure it's like a set, a bed. Yeah, you got to, your face got to be shown for this. What are they, what do you pay for?

But see, I don't even know how I could say that's not my kid. And then I end up having a kid later on. I can't explain to my children that I stood in line with 99 other men to fuck a woman. What's happening between guys? Like, is there a pit crew to come in and like, do shit? Clean it up. Yeah. Are you just in there just right after the next dude?

Is it like a gentleman's agreement? We all pull out? Yeah, probably. You don't leave a mess. You don't leave a match. You get a pit crew in there, give a granola bar, some water. Keep her blood sugar level up. You know what I mean?

You got to make sure the car is running well. And as someone that's been a manager to artists, I could only imagine what a stressful day for that management team. You have to deal with 100 other talent. And your client is the focus of everything. You have to make sure your client is safe. comfortable safe. God, damn.

I just, I mean, I'm sure that the guys have a group chat. I'm sure there's like lifelong friendships that came from that line. You got to take an AIDS test that day. Like, right there. As you walk in, we eat. And they said that they did. Ain't trusted no paperwork you came in here with. That's what I'm saying.

You had to submit paperwork, but the guys that stay in this line, I feel like would Photoshop paperwork to say they didn't have STD. Oh, absolutely. Like, that guy would do that. No, they had the medical team on set. Yeah, you got to be like COVID nasal. Yeah, swam all that shit. But whoever the father is, you know, good.

Congrats, man. Congrats. And we'll see you somewhere down on. Before we get out of here, would you mind telling your J. Prince story one more time? Y'all have heard that shit? Have I? One of my favorite YouTube clips.

That, bro. People really think that that shit was a joke. No, I didn't think it was a joke at all. That's why I thought it was funny. You know he went on sway and confirmed that shit. I didn't see that. Yeah, no, I didn't see that. Can you give us some backstory if our listeners haven't heard your J.

Prince story? So, so I used to do prank phone calls. I did morning radio. Yeah. So I did stand up. I was doing morning radio. Which your prank phone calls were some of the best. That was viral when you go viral over email.

I'm a old. Yeah, yeah. In the back of the day, I went fucking seen your email. Open this, trust me. And you'd open this shit. Yeah, yeah. So, so my pranks, my pranks are jumping off. They're going viral all over the South.

And I get a call. from a record label in Houston. And they go, yo, we want to fuck with you. We want to do a prank call album with you. But we only want to prank call black celebrities. Okay. Oh, and this is,

this is at the beginning of Ashton Coucher pumped. Okay. And all of that. So, like, the idea of celebrity pranking is a new. Yeah. So I'm like, fuck it. Yeah. I'll fuck with that.

Because it can just keep in mind, my pranks at this point, they're getting put on mixtapes and shit too. And this is also back at a time where comedy and hip hop had more of a... Yeah. Synergy. You know what I'm saying? Like,

a fucking Cameron in them, my shit was on dipset mixtapes. It was on 3-6. Camillionaire fucking... Comillionaire, the reason half of my shit got west of Dallas in terms of my comedy in the reach. Pimp C and Bunba. So, like,

I was on like mixtapes and james. shit. So this label is like, you're perfect. And we'll fucking do the celebrity calls and we'll put rap songs in between it. Yeah. Come on down to Houston, nigger. Yeah. So I fly down in Houston. I leave Birmingham. I fly to Houston.

I get to Houston 10, 11 o'clock in the morning. And I go to the studio and we'd already done the paperwork, signed a contract or whatever. And they have a list of people that to prank call. And they just go, we're going to prank calls some folks. Now, all we know for the most part is Texas celebrities. So we're going to start with some of these folks. And hopefully we get them, they'll open up their roller decks to us. And we'll be able to call more folks.

And so it's a couple names on the list. It's Vince Young. It's Michael Irvin, Jay Prince. And they go, which one of these people do you want to call first? And I go, well. All three don't sound like it'll go well. Michael Irvin should be easy. Vince Young.

Yes, either way. Yeah. Either way. But Jay Prince is for sure going to be the hardest. Yeah. Because he's the coldest and, you know, you know the legend of him and all that. And so my thing was always with pranks. Start with the hardest call of the day first, so the rest of your day is easy.

Okay. So I go, fuck it. Let's call Jay Prince. Yeah. Like, okay, well, what's the premise? I go, all right. I'm gonna call Jay and I'm gonna tell him

I'm gonna call Jay Prince posing as a Houston record store owner Okay Yeah man I fucking My record store we got all these rap A lot albums in here Ain't none of them selling Yeah

Rap a lot ain't shit Yeah yeah yeah Rap a lot ain't been shit for a while Last good album Was fucking till death do us part Which is like Yeah That's a disgusting

insult if you know southern hip hop right that's a fact oh that's a terrible right so i just got all this shit so we called j prince how'd you feel about your safety while writing this premise where's perfectly fine keep in mind i've done 200 or 300 prank calls at this point yeah yeah and at this point in radio i've been threatened but nobody's ever come to put hands on me right because at the end of the day it was always love and the lesson i learned everybody had pranked up until that point was i was put up to by someone they love. So they didn't fuck me up off the strength of that. Right, right, right.

I forgot I wouldn't baptized, man. I wouldn't baptize. Probably the one you should have made sure you just baptized. But I'm in there with the record label. I want to impress them. I'm going to get out. I don't get my fuck. I'll call anybody.

That's why I always say pranks and sketches. That's a young man's game. I was in the right mindset to be that crazy. Yeah. So we called Jay Prince and he in the car. It was going on. is Jay. Yeah.

Yeah, niggum, these albums ain't selling. Nick, come get these rap-a-lott albums, that's why I fuck with Swisher House, nigga, I don't fuck with Rap House. Which is also a crazy fucking thing to say. Especially at that time. At that time.

The height. This is like 0-5-06-ish rise of Swisher. Yeah, yeah. You don't fucking say that. You don't say that. Nope. But I'm on the phone and I'm just fucking lame. And I'm hitting them.

I'm hitting them with Fischer. fucking insults and he's not reacting and like in a prank yeah he's shit funny nigga's supposed to give you some shit back yeah fuck you nigga fuck you I'm J. Prentin no fuck you I lay in a J Prince for like 30, 45 second straight and all he replied

with is where you at and the engineer he started EQ with it he starts mixing shit the nigga he'll do this Where you at? And I go, I'm at my store right now.

And I need me to hear, well, if you say you were at the store. And you say you want your money back for these albums. I got to know where you at to bring you your money. Naturally. So where you at? Don't worry about where I'm at right now. What you're? need to know. It's a rap,

a lot of shit. I ain't selling no more rap, a lot of albums. All I'm selling from now and I just start naming every Southern record label. I'm, I ain't selling nothing but hypnotize. I'm selling goddamn goddamn Dutchin family. I'm selling niggins selling

Slipped Slipid Slip. Crazy. Where you are? And the engineer is like, Yeah, yeah. And so it's not funny no more. And I go, I go, Mr. Prince, I break character. I go, Mr. Prince, my name is Roy Virginia.

Now, mind you, I have no cachet as a comedian at this point. Yeah. I have like two credits on comic view. Yeah. Jay Prince don't know who the fuck. And I feel like Jay Prince doesn't laugh. So like the comedy genre isn't really... Bookmark that.

Right. Bookmark that. So the, the, the, dude with the label and run the studio whatever he'd come on the mic hey hey jay hey jay hey jay it's donnie it's johnny we were just down here doing some pranks it's us yeah yeah we're just we're just kidding man

this is roy this is our new comedian and we're doing a prank call album and we just thought it'd be fun to prank you yeah uh sorry sorry if we caused you any trouble today yeah oh you down there with donnie Now he know where you at

I know exactly Hey man Turn the car around Click And he hung up in our face We called Jay Prince back Two three times Trying to smooth the shit

We try to smooth the shit out Hey Jay is cool It was a prank right Everything was cool right Yeah yeah He wouldn't answer the phone Engineer left the room Yeah, I'm out.

Go, go. Now, mind you, I came straight from the airport. Because we'll just get to work. Yeah. I go, hey, man. Let me go get checked into the hotel. Let me just make sure the hotel is straight. And then we can restrategize it.

We'll come back this evening. We'll knock out. We'll do some more. You didn't make a copy of that contract, right? I'll just take that one with me. That's cool, right? There you go, cool. Yeah.

I get in the cab. went back to the airport. I bought a ticket at the counter. Continental Airlines. This is before the United merger. Yeah. Continental Airlines. Yeah.

Houston to Birmingham. Let me get out here. I was in Houston a total of two hours. Dipped. Yeah. To this day, contractually. I-O-B-C-D-U. A celebrity prank phone call out.

I did. Yeah, I'm out of it. Never returned. Fast forward. That's like 0506. Fast forward to the year that Jay's autobiography is his memoir came out. Yeah, rest of the piece, Jazz Fly. I wrote a jazz.

And so jazz is the one that cannot because I tweeted about it, right? And Jazz fucking set it up and we get him on the daily show as a guest. Okay. So he's coming to the daily show. And this is the first time I'm going to see this nigga. Oh, man. Since I tried to prank him. Yeah, yeah.

So I'm like, I'm like DM and jazz on Twitter. Is there anything I can get, what liquor does he like? Get him a cognac or something? Yeah, yeah. And the day before he came on Daily Show, Jay Prince went on Sway, and Sway asked him about that whole story. And he asked Jay, were you really on the way to the studio to fuck him up? To which Jay Prince said, I was just going to laugh with him.

Oh, okay. You wanted to laugh. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to pull up and laugh. Which meant you was for him fucking, yeah. He was going to fuck you. And when I think about all of that now, I realize how sideways I was because you on his turf,

disrespecting him in his city. Like you can be funny, but you can't be disrespectful. Yeah, yeah. And what I did was disrespect. he's got to check that. Yeah. That nigga ain't going to sign the waiver for that prank call to be released. No, no, no, no, no, no.

I got to check disrespect. Because if people see you joking with me, everybody think they can joke. Like, I didn't understand the code of it at the time. Yeah. I grew up in the hood, but I ain't no street, nigga. I cut through the projects to go to the library to take computer classes. Right. So with certain parts of code that I'm just,

hey, young nigga, let me, let me correct you real quick. Hey, let me come and slap the shit out you real quick. So, and then I told, and so then Jazz and I talked about that shit after the fact. And she said, she once saw Jay Prince at a comedy club, and he never laughed. He said they saw Jay at a comedy club. He was only there to launder money.

He didn't even know what the business was. Ask me who they heard. headliner was. Who? Bernie Mac. Oh my God. He's not laughing at Bernie. That was the only time

Bernie said, I am scared of you motherfuckers. She said, Jay Pritz said, I ain't never heard a joke. What the fuck does that even mean? How hard is your life?

You ain't never heard nothing. It ain't nothing funny. Ain't nothing funny. Ain't nothing funny. Yeah. And here you all. calling my phone with this dumb shit. I called him a cussed him out.

He came to that studio to put hands on me, but I was too quick for you, you nigga. You had to catch me 15 years later. I mean, if they come back on the contract and you have to recoup, I'd get you Jay Prince Jr's number if you want to prank him. I'm sure he'd take it the same way. I'm straight. I'm straight on any of the Prince family. I am nothing but an ally.

I've enjoyed going back to Hugh. You know, Houston was a no-fly zone for me for a minute. Oh, I bet. When I left, I didn't go back to Houston to perform for like fucking seven, eight years. Yeah. Just because I don't, because you're on the fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know if, I don't know if, is my name out in this?

Right. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. And I don't, and Houston is one of them, like, comedically speaking, Houston is a city strictly for superstars and locals. Yeah. So I never came there enough to perform. So I'm not even protected by the local.

comics. Like, even now, I only know four or five comics, and even they couldn't keep niggas from one to put hands. The best I get nice, Ali Sadiq would give me a 10-minute heads up. Hey, man, you may want to wherever yet, man, there's somewhere else, man. Delete this number. Did you see him in the hallway at The Daily Show? Yeah, we chopped it up. We got a picture, man. We got a picture. It's love. It's love now, man. It's all good. Type of emotion? No. No. Niggit did the gunpoint. Can't get you here.

I can't get you here, but I'm going to get you. Jay Prince did the gunpoint every. It did the picture, man. Yeah, it was all love, man. He gave us a good shout out on drink champs too when he was on drink champs. Shout out to Jay Prince, the legend, man. Before we get out of here just quickly, I know it's a very open-ended question, but is there any favorite daily show stories behind the scenes? I really enjoy being able to cover black shit on that show. If it's something I miss, is that.

I don't get to do that at CNN. We talk about news, but like, you do like your regular correspondent pieces, but like, you and Van Jones can't do something? Like cry together? I ain't going to cry with Van Jones. Van Jones got money. Every time I see Van Jones cry, right? Yeah, go from Bayload. Pull up your Venmo.

Look at that bin-mo, boy, and smile. Yeah, that's why he crying. He can't believe he got that one. Bezos gave it to me for free. I would not do nothing with us. Where the money, that, man? What you're doing with it? Let me get some of that, man.

Crying like a motherfucker. I see him in the hallway sometimes at CNN. I'd be like, man, let me get one of them suits. They ain't wearing them but once. No, we would do like, bro, I think some of the shit we did, man. We did a story one time. Like, this is shit. Like, this is why I get Trevor Noah credit.

It's like, Trevor is, he's black. He's not black American. So he's smart enough to go, all right, let me send to Alabama. And you go over there and do the thing. Because it gave us a different connection with some of the people we were interviewing. Bro, we went to Chicago Week. We was on the south side and south shore doing a walk-and-talk down blocks with gang intervenors, who literally all they do is go block to block

and talk to crews and try to squash beef and don't even involve the police. And they let us come in. They let me come in with cameras. And I'm talking like blocks where every block they have to go out the block to get the clearance

for us to come down the block. So we weren't even like just shit was like you probably should not be here. But for them to trust us with our cameras to come tell the story of black folks actually fighting black on black crime because, you know, that's what they try to frame is that, you know, niggas don't care about, you know,

black killing blacks. We did the 20th anniversary of the Million Man March, like spots where you shouldn't even have new satire. Right. And it's weird because when you're talking about doing new satire with black people, especially black Americans, that shit is dicey because satire requires me to lie to you and for you to understand that I'm lying to you.

Right. And then that's the joke. Yeah. But black folks get lied to their entire existence. So I don't want to deal with this shit. So for folks to trust me like that, like those are the stories I love. Like one of the last stories I did before I dipped was on Cop City. And you got gangs of black folks living in the forest and having it in an area where they're trying to build a new police compound in Atlanta.

Like folks willing to die for this shit. And so we're in the forest with cameras talking to people like that shit. And it's not just black people there. let me be fair, but the fact that this is something that if they build this, it will decimate black communities downstream. Right. Yeah. And that aside from promoting over policing and all of that shit,

just a straight up fact, if you build this, this shit down the hill will flood. Right. And that's a black neighborhood down the hill. So to be able to be trusted, the thing I missed the most is being able to, like, tell black stories about stuff affecting black Americans and using humor to do it. I want to figure out a way to get back into that. I mean, CNN is cool, but that's more. We got to keep that more because it's a panel show too.

Yeah. I can't bring on some Republican Congress. And my motherfucker, let's talk about the goddamn gangs in Chicago. Right. So I think that's what I miss, man. Yeah, it was you and Jordan Klepper that did the police training? That was the first piece we did. That was one of my favorite deal.

We did a ride along with the Madison Police Department who had just killed an unarmed black man four months prior and they had all this anti-biased training. Come take the training. That shit was goofy. Yeah, I was shooting at like office chairs and shit. Yeah, but it was a real like, man, they had a simulator. They had a paintball simulator where like it's like guess which person is going to pull the gun on your type situation.

Basically like just herky jerky reaction shit and then it's a kid and then the kid comes up and popsicle. Who the fuck pull up? You deserve to get shot. You don't pull no popsicle from behind your back. But yeah, we just got to, you know, as silly as the daily show can be sometimes, we got we got chances, man, to really pick and choose some spots to like really talk about shit that was going on in the world and use humor to do it, man. That's the importance of the show to me.

I mean, of course, it's silly, but that's what separated it from everything else. Yeah, the floor pieces were fun, man. Yeah, it really were, man. All right, Roy, we appreciate you coming by. Second season of Have I Got News for you is available now on CNN. And your lonely flower special is out now on Hulu. Yeah, man. Thank you all.

We appreciate coming by Roy Wood Jr. the legend, man. Thank you. And if you want the screaming crazy Republican on your show, malls available. You should. I'm down. I'm not bullshit. I'm down, bro. I'm not going to bullshit. Let's do it.

Let's do it. We'll talk to you out soon. I'm that niggie. He's just ginger. Peace. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.