New Rory & MAL - Episode 353 | Bad Takes Never Heal

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

Breaking: Rory is getting killed by the internet for his Doechii take (and some would say rightfully so). His lawyers have drafted an apology and we challenged him to read it aloud (8:28). Meanwhile in R&B, Eric Bellinger has a bold claim - ‘Full Moon’ x Brandy is the greatest R&B album of all time (24:04). We attempt to debunk this, and surprise ourselves with just how much we like that album as well. We address the nonsense news headline that is ‘Beyonce is struggling to sell concert tickets’ before the team finds out an interesting fact about Demaris (39:22). After a convo about our experiences with war, we catch up on our tv show talk, and then go into voicemails (1:01:50). The first voicemail is from a young man who has a very …unique… question about our dating histories, and another young man with a freaked out question (1:23:44).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. And we are back. Happy end of the week, I guess. Sort of. We're getting there. Happy weekend. Yes. Happy weekend.

Happy Friday. Whatever day you listen to this. Happy Tuesday, if that's the day. Wednesday? Yeah. Ash Wednesday. Was it Ash Wednesday? Yesterday?

Yes. How come you don't have any ash on your, you took a shower? Yeah, you're allowed to do that. Oh, I thought you. I also didn't go get my ashes, but yeah. Okay. I used to have to go to school with that on. I didn't see much ashes.

Yeah, you used to see it all the time in the street. I didn't see much. just anymore people don't care it's just like yeah i think so taxes and that's it no i just think our our parents just did the catholic thing wrong so my generation like after 18 was like you mean i don't have to go yeah and you know we're spiritual yeah that's that's what we do spiritual oh yeah i say my my 10 our fathers in the morning that's the real name especially after this week you're covered but father i have committed murder you good it's all right don't do that shit again it's okay it's all right Help us at our bake sale.

Yeah. You'll go to heaven. But yes, I haven't got my ashes in a while. So I guess that would mean Easter is this Sunday? No. I'm a terrible Catholic. No. Easter is a couple Sundays from now, babe.

Okay. East is on 420. I'm thinking of Holy Thursday, Good Friday. Then to East. So yesterday was Ash Wednesday. So yesterday was Ash Wednesday. Then there's Palm Sunday. It was last week.

I'm a terrible Catholic. It's interesting how it's Ash Wednesday and this year, Easter is like 420. So it's like kind of ties into like ashes. I see where you take them. Smoking. 420. Phoenix, Ross, from the ashes. I mean, listen, man. Do you have 420 plans? I mean, I know we're a little bit away. I'll have Easter plans, of course, because clearly I'm still very involved in the Catholic Church. You, on the other hand, will be a degenerate smoking up all

the devil's lettuce. I'm just, uh, remember when like sneakers used to be a thing on Easter, like get all the, like, new releases. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, that was a thing. It's a few releases that I'm looking forward to, a few air maxes that's dropping that I need. I wonder why they did that? Because, like, did anyone ever get easy? It's got to get fresh for Easter. That's why. Yeah, but if you're buying the sneakers that day that they drop, and who gets like Easter money? No, it's like the week.

Okay. The Easter week, the sneakers drop. I wasn't allowed to wear fresh sneakers. It was hard bottoms on Easton. Yeah, Pennyloaf is off. Yes. The only time, like, we could kind of get something off would be the wallabies. Yeah.

That was the only time that you were. Oh, hush puppies. Was you a hush pubbies baby? No. Hush pubbies were like right, right before me. We were wildies. We knew what hush puppies were, but the older kids were on to those. I did the hush puppies and wallabies, yeah. But anyways, I don't even know how we got down that topic.

That's true. Yeah. He is risen. Christ will come again. With that said, boy, could I... I'm not doing it. You know what? I should have went to ask once in.

I had to pray. I'm not doing. I'm staying away from that topic with you, man. What you mean, man? Nothing, man. What did you stand away from? Just the topic. I see the timeline was...

Nah. You was fighting for your life. We can't go through it unless we go through it. No, no, no. We're not doing it. that. I saw you in the timeline. We have to face our fears. No, we're going to face the fears of your time lines to beating you into submission over the last two days. I'm a little sore. I can't lie. Listen, fight back, man.

Nah, you can't fight back on the internet. Man, you got to fight back. You attempted to fight back. You attempted to fight back. With that, I know the internet killing me is fine. It's just my time. But you know, you're going to ignore the other. Like, your stop. I love what you do. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Because I got out there and I tried to fight for you. And then I saw it. And I said, man, fuck. that and I deleted. Oh, did you? I didn't see that, but I appreciate it. I was like, nah, y'all not going to do my friend like that because they were saying defund white capas. And I was like, you know what? I agree, though. I was like, I'm not going to do that to

my friend. He was the first person to say, doci had rap album in a year. Like, I was caping. And I was like, no, no, he good. It's your turn now. I deleted. I take my licks by my lonely, but I do appreciate that you sticking up for me. Yeah. But you can't fight back on the internet. They're undefeated. They tried to beat you into submission. My guy, JD, he's been fighting for his life the last week and then some days now. All Jermaine Dupree asked was a question about what is it that independent artists want. And everybody's in his midst of talking about J.D. must be going broke. He can't sign no artist. I'm like, this is Jemain Dupree y'all are talking to. That's what's interesting. Like I understand, even if I don't agree, I understand my ass whooping on the internet

over the past two days. Even though I think they took Demaris completely out of context on how she's been with the Drake thing, I understood based off the information that they had why the stands would go at her. This JD thing is, like, you guys have to be bored on the internet. I disagree with JD, but now we're going to get into his pockets and his legacy. He asked a fucking question on the timeline. And it's only, it's a very specific part of this, of the internet too. It's a very specific part of the internet that you can't ask questions about. You can't. I felt, I felt so bad. like, even when JD put up that clip that you was part of our podcast and then he did his

explanation, I was like, why is Jermaine Dupree one of the greatest? Like, I'm happy that I even got to be alive when Jermaine Dupree is alive. Like that's the type of genius that we're talking about. Right. Why is he putting up a clip of dumbass me and having to explain himself? Yeah. I felt bad for that. Like that gentleman should never have to explain himself. But y'all can't say that Jermaine Dupree just asked the question and he got killed. Jermaine DePrie asked a question, people answer his question, and then he doubled down. He knew the answer to that question, but he doesn't agree with the answer to the question, which he showed when you guys called him. He doesn't agree that the freedom is important enough to be independent.

He doesn't agree. He said that he showed that in that conversation. He showed that in his replies to people on Twitter. He showed that when he went live. Like, he knew the answer to that question. I don't think it was that. I mean, because like he said in the conversation, he had major days. and, you know, had obviously had his label and all of that.

And like he said, he got this perks of being independent as well because most importantly, he writes all his shit. Yeah. Now, everybody can't say that. Everybody doesn't have that talent or that luxury of owning their music because they write all of their music and they produce their music. So he's in a very unique situation when it comes to that. But I think what he was saying was, again, it's all which you negotiate. Had he not negotiated his deal that way, then he wouldn't have, yeah. able to say that. And Grant, I mean, we talked about it after he got off the call. I still

disagree with him and said he was in a unique place that he earned. That's why he's speaking from that. I disagree with him. I didn't think we should erase his entire legacy, take his MPC away, defund him. Again, he was, that's where I'm at. I disagree with JD. But I don't think we should erase 25 years of the greatest fucking producer writer catalog I've ever seen. He just asked a question. Like, that's why all of this is hilarious. All he did was pose a question. And people was like, oh, JD. I like the discourse and I think there should always be debate online. I've participated in it for over a decade.

It's just now getting to like a whole different level. People want to argue. Like it's going into like livelihood shit where it's like, okay. People just want to argue. This isn't fun anymore. Yeah, they want to argue. I like it. I love seeing people argue on the timeline.

Oh, yeah. I like it. It's great. They're a little insane. I got doxed over the weekend on Twitter. What do you mean? Doxed. My old, thank God, it's an old address.

My old address. Oh, you really mean docs. I mean docs. I mean docs. They posted my old address. Thank God my address and my phone number are different. But yeah. For what?

Docs me. Because apparently I dissed Nikki Minaj. Nice. News to fucking me. Oh, and when you said an actual fact that she was overly sexualized during her, which I believe she's probably said before that they sexualized her while she was wrapping her ass off and people were just looking at her ass. Yeah. They doxxed me.

Is that what going on? on the internet? Yeah. Yeah. Man. I didn't see it. That actually got sent to me. And my friends were like, Demaris, you need to do something about this?

Like, we reported it. And I was just like, wow. I will blow a barb's head. Clean the fuck off. They show up to my fucking door. I welcome it. Clean off. Listen, man.

Let me make a call to the barbs, man. Let me see what's going on, man. Let me try to calm the people there. I know, I know you've been laughing up. in your penthouse for the past few weeks. About what? Just the the digital ass

weapons that Demaris and I have been taken. Pige made an incredible graphic, which I thought was hilarious that he posted. This is the Grim Reaper meme that's been going out. Of course, 2024, you took a bulk, bulk of the death.

So right, man. Moved right down onto Demaris out of context. I'm still here. They can't erase what we were. And like any horror movie, you guys died first. What it came right to me. Yeah. I wasn't escaping.

Yeah, the black's got to die first. You know that in the horror flick. You know how that goes. Yeah, I made it to the third act. Yeah. And then you found out that the killer is your close friend and he killed you, stabbed you in the belly button. I get it. No, the whole, like, this has really been some fucking M-night Shyamalan, I've been pronounced his shit.

Yeah. Some John Grisham thing. Pige has really been the one behind. dictating this entire thing. It's really him. It's the guy that you did not think was the serial killer at the end of the movie. And it's been Peach. But how?

I'm not blaming that last clip on Peach. That was all you. That was you. I said, let's go with the Hot Wings clip. That's a fact. I said, you know,

I think maybe we should just go with the Hot Wings one. Like, they're talking about that. Because I already knew where that was going to go. Yeah. And Peach even, he didn't clip it up bad. But I just knew the only way to clip it up.

Why do y'all blame Pete for clipping it up? Oh, because we don't want to. accountability. It's not the way he's clipping it. Oh, I, I, I, with mine, it definitely was the way that he clipped it. But, but yours- They took it out of context based off you dancing. That clip was fine to what the conversation was.

No, even when they went when they revisited it. When that clip first dropped, I got killed. And I had to go in the comments when it first clicked. It was like, hey, this is out of context. This is what happened. That clip, Peach cut that clip exactly where it was supposed to be. What clip are y'all talking about? So my middle clip, the viral fucking clip of our Kendrick conversation.

before that clip, we were talking about the disses and what was being said in the disses. And you were ignoring everything else that was said. So I bought up what else was said. That's the missing context from that clip. As far as Rory's clip, there is no missing context. We started at the top of that conversation and it was included in the entire clip. There was not context missing per se in that. How the mentions that I did see, how they were replying to them took my,

point and made it say something I was not saying as far as her being an industry plant and just me hating on her and she doesn't deserve this, that she didn't put any working. They just made me say a whole bunch of shit that I didn't say, that I actually said the opposite in that 45-minute conversation of every point that they brought up, even down to artists that have gotten verses from legends. I said before, they're usually signed to them. Every point that they were making out for me to seem crazy, I had said in that 45-minute conversation. That's where I'm I'm saying with the context. I still stand by what I said as far as the Lauren Hill Dochi bringing her out. I think it's going to be a lot of pressure to put on one artist. Now she

really has to deliver. But with that said, yeah, a lot was missing in that entire conversation. But I don't care. I fully understood everything I hate white hip hop heads do. Of course, of course I had to wear a Wu-Tang shirt that day. It's not even like my thing. You had a Wu-Tang shirt out? Oh my God. It was like the perfect narrative of who I like, I'm not. They was all under saying like, and even though like, I like MF Doom and underground hip hop. That's not, they painted me to be that guy. And that's not even me.

Like, I prefer music where they sell crack. Like, you know, I just love the fact that it's not on me right now. Yeah, no, you're that guy. You definitely that guy. I took my lickings, well, I'm still standing. That means, but see, see, that's fucked up because when you were taking your lickings, I was going down with you. I didn't even know they was kicking your ass until like an hour ago.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't know that she was fighting. I didn't really know like that until Pige said something to me earlier yesterday. And then I looked and I was like, oh God. And then then La Russell, then La Russell got a hold of it. And I was like, oh, God. Can we pull up La Russell's tweet? The Russell on your ass?

Painting me to be this person that I'm not. Damn, La Russell. I'm like, not my guy who I've supported for snow long. That's not your guy then. That's not your guy. he said, doji is one of the greats. It's never too early to recognize greatness. There's no such thing as a premature flower is giving.

She's great. Yes, it is. La Russell, I love you, but it is a such thing as premature flower given. Absolutely. I'm going to just stop him right there. It absolutely is a such thing as premature flower given. Okay. She's great and doing great things.

She's not just tight. She gets it. She's putting something new in the pot. She loves art. She's smiling, enjoying her journey, off her dick. Now everything La Russell said in this passage right here, I have said for over a year about Dochi. Matter of fact, I've been saying this about Dochi since 2020. That's where I'm saying like, I get the hey, but now you guys are painting me to be this person that I'm not when it

comes to supporting this artist or artists like Dochi. Because I was with the, hey, if she only sold 11,000 records and you can't get a Grammy off that, I don't give a fuck. If the Grammy's got it wrong this time they got it right because they gave it to a talented artist this time right i have been on this the whole time so when i saw the russell do that was like damn the fuck well you know nobody gives a fuck about what you've been saying all those other past times like you said they only care about the clips but you have been the main one in this podcasting sphere that has been pushing that doche is one of the greats you've been saying that you came in here and couldn't shut the fuck up about that album um 2019 i was hitting reason's phone every other day hey can you get me a line on dochi

I want to work with her. Yeah. I think she's amazing. We were at the... But I also think Lauren Hill is just Lauren Hill. And that's one thing that I did want to bring up when I was defending you, but I was like, nah, fuck that. People are thinking you're putting Dochi down, but I don't think everybody knows how you

feel about Lauren Hill. Lauren Hill is your real hove. So like you, you worship Lauren Hill. You literally worship Lauren Hill. So I think that it's, I don't want to say, not jealousy. It's not that you're hating on. Dochey is just it's a Lauren. It's a Lauren thing. It's just how you feel about Lauren. It has nothing to do with how you feel about Dochi.

But I was trying to save you in the middle of the conversation like, yo, this, you sound like a hater. I was trying to save you. You wasn't biting. I mean, it's cool. It is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't have too much for this. I wasn't coming here to backtrack. I'm laughing with y'all. I agree. I fucking think white people should get out of this genre. I'm just, I'm not going to return this equipment. Like, it's expensive. I put my eggs in this podcasting basket. Let me add this to the pot of the conversation.

Is it too early to call Dochi one of the greats? Like one album? I'm just asking. Do we call people greats off in one album? I saw it in the comments too, hey, Nas was called The Great just after the live at the barbecue verse. And he worked with some of the greatest producers for Illmatic, this and that. And I felt them. And I saw a lot of people saying, yo, Nas was considered once Illmatic came out,

one of the greatest. And now I'm going to set myself up to look more like a hater when I'm not being one. Am I a hater for saying it's not Illmatic? Everyone under that she was bringing up Nause. It was like, no, I get it.

And I'm not taking Dochi down by saying, and this is where you can't win and podcasting. Because I want to say, hey, guys, that's Elmatic. Yeah. Nah, clip this, Pete. I get what you saying.

saying, though. But that's why I'm posing a question. Like, can you call somebody a great-off one album? I think it's fine for LaRussell to say right now, yes, Stochi is one of the greats. I think that's totally fine for anyone that is a fan of her to say. I think she's one of the greats of this new generation. I cannot wait to see where her career goes. But in the whole totality of things, which is what that combo was sort of about of who Lauren is in the years that she has put in and what she has accomplished versus what a new artist that looks like they have incredible potential is and just the marriage of those two things. That's all. Okay. So what I do want to bring up is other people's main argument. Um, is that other people, other people were bringing,

I mean, other people were on stage with Lauren Hill. Yeah. I know. Like, I'm in that show. So it was kind of like, so why? And Dolce was the most famous one out of all of them. For sure. So why was that? Obviously, yeah, we spoke about it. She brought out foggy, foggy, bro, uh, perform. Um, not sure who outside of Dochi and Foggy she brought out. But I did see Foggy was there. I mean, I'll give the obvious answer. It's not the right one. Dochi is what the conversation was.

And podcasting is a lot of the times about what the current conversation is. And at that time, as Rolling Stone has told us, Dochee hate is the main conversation. So we were talking about Dochie coming out. And that also was the biggest moment. And the comparisons, I think, are fair as far as. their artistry and their style, I think that's a fair comparison. You can tell that Doche was clearly influenced

by Lauren Hill, which is why I think we love a lot of her music. So that was really why that conversation was higher than the rest of the people that were brought out. But it is also a conversation, and I'm not saying it was the right way, but when we were coming up,

it would be the younger artists would have the opportunity to bring the legend out as the cosine, not reverse. That was always the huge moment that they, the legend would come out and perform, and that would be the cosine. My thing is this.

You can make... Like, in the beginning, Drake brought out Wayne, and that was the craziest shit. Like, damn, he brought Wayne out. And, I mean, of course, he was signed to him. But it wasn't until Drake became Drake that Wayne would bring Drake out. Like, that's usually how it went. All right, well, hopefully the internet ain't kicking your ass too much after this, man.

Oh, I'm sure they are. I mean, it took your words out of context a little bit. And, you know... I mean, and... Let's say they didn't. Everyone will be okay. Hey, stand on that. Like literally every,

Doshi will be fine. Yeah. Who's ever watching that will be fine. Everyone will be fine. Lauren Hill will be fine. Listen, my motto is this. The first comes every month.

I don't care what y'all is saying on the internet. The first is coming up. Pay your bills, nigga. I had, uh, I won't say what group chat. We're friends of ours.

We're trying to put together. People that work. the music industry, we're jokingly trying to put together like a PR apology for me to come on here. That's very funny. And this is what I had written so far because what I'm, I don't want to give like hints on it, was trying to tell me not to double down like Andrew Schultz or then she couldn't like be around me. She thought like I was finally an ally that she could bring around other black people.

Yeah. So she was like, we need to put a press conference together. I will stand next to you giving you the death eyes the entire time you read this. after meeting with various women amongst whom are from the community that I've offended the most, I understand that I was wrong and that my actions have harmed

many innocent people's lives. I will be checking myself in a mental health facility to truly address the internal issues that caused me to act out this way. Please give my family privacy during this time. Thank you.

Yes. You should have added in that you're gay at the end of that. That really sends it home after that when you say you're gay. I should have started it with I realized that I am a red flag. I should have said

Please leave me in my very black family alone at this time. Oh, man. Jesus. Anyways. Speaking of people that are no longer invited to the cookout. I got to go link with Alabama Barker. What happened now? What's the latest and greatest with a bad baby?

We are the two whites that deserve to get our ass kick this week. Yeah. But at least I hope it's not completely over for me. Alabama Barker, man. Go back to your in-laws, reality TV, maybe sell some skims. I don't really know what's going to happen with Alabama Barker. Did bad baby drop another record? Yes, she did.

OG Crash out. Dropped another one. She is 21 years old. How is she calling us of OG Crash out? She heard stripes already. She's a young OG. OG Crash out. We can't exactly talk up, play it.

You know on Patreon. We play the music. So we're going to do that on our Patreon episode. Oh, yeah. That's going to be a lyrical breakdown on Patreon. I've never heard. I haven't heard it. So I'm excited.

We're going to play for you later. Yeah, I want your full reaction. I want your full reaction. I'm excited to hear Bad Baby because, again, listening to the other tracks you put out, I was very impressed by the way she delivered those bars. Again, I don't know if she's writing that, but she delivered it like she is.

So I want to hear what she had to do, what she had to say on an OG crash out. There's been plenty of battles where I've seen people lose. Like, even after back-to-back, I was like, oh, if me just keeps sat down, stays focused and puts out good music, he'll be all right. Like, there's plenty of times artists have lost, and I was like, give it some time.

Everything will be normal again. Yeah. I think this might be the first actual battle where it's over, nailing the coffin for the rapper forever. I know Jai got a little weird, but that had a lot to do with, you know, the feds, and he still had clapback, like New York. Rules still put out records after that.

Yeah. I think this is the first one we've ever seen. Like, even when the bridge is over, the bridge was not over. Like, everyone continued on. This is the first time I think it's over for a rapper forever after a battle. I don't think Alabama Barker can look at Pro Tools for the rest of her life. No, I don't see. You got at least let her fight back.

Look at what her fight back game is like, at least. Because she could drop something this week. Yeah, but I mean, she might, she still let, you can't rush the chef. You know that? She might be cooking. She got to get Intel. You know what I'm saying? She might be putting together some, you know, video.

Like, you don't know what she doing? What intel could you have on someone that was on Dr. fillet 14, cursing her mother out, and then had a countdown till her 18th birthday for only fans. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. You don't know. What dirt could you have on this one? You don't know.

It's kind of the Freddie Gibbs methodology. Like, the world knows all the worst things about me. So there's nothing that you can really say in a dis. Yeah. Ma, she said, and we're going to get into what I'm Patreon, but she literally said, you keep running back to your daddy. I don't know when the last time I seen my pops. Gangster.

It's different. You can't get into a battle with somebody We in a trauma war? We in a trauma war. I don't even care about seeing my father. What are you talking about? And who are you talking to? OG Crash out.

And who are you talking to? And who you talking to? OG Crash out available. I'm really excited for your reaction in real time on Patreon. Yeah. Bad baby. I'm gonna check out your OG Crash out. I'm impressed by what was the name of the other one?

The first one? I think greatest of all time. Miss Whitman. Oh, she was skating on Ms. Whitman. And then we did this. We did the whole song. of what Ms. Whitman was. Like, that was a whole deal. She went crazy. That's what I'm saying. So Alabama

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And Full Moon is a classic R&B album. I mean, Belanger being the writer and vocalist that he is, I can totally see that Brandy and Full Moon would be a huge, huge influence on him in the goat that he is. But I disagree. Just going through certain R&B albums. That might be his wife's favorite R&B album. You know, you get on the platform, you got to, whatever wife he liked, you got to throw that out there.

Like, yo, listen, that's the greatest. It had me kind of thinking, like, how easily that could be debunked. And I wanted to ask you guys, Full Moon versus Confessions, what are you taking? We're going with the number one greatest R&B of all time. And I just want to name a bunch to see if. There's some people who will argue with you on that. What you think I'm taking? What you think I'm taking?

Full Moon? In your heart. What you think I'm going to go to the confession? Exactly. I make, I must confess. Yeah, come on, man. I would, I personally would go with confessions as well. Marvin Gaye was going on.

I mean, soul, I still consider it R&B to you. Yeah. Full moan or what's going on? Probably full moon. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. I wouldn't have guessed that.

Demaris? I would probably go full moon. But I think that was going on. It's probably the better album. But it's eras. I was around to hear of foot moon. Yeah. Fair. I'm still what's going on, but yeah.

I always answer based on what I listen to more. You listen to Full Moon more than what's going on? Absolutely. Interesting. Okay. I mean, this one to me was like the number one no-brainer. Songs in a key of life, like, is there a better R&B album? No. It's like I get it, Eric, but.

Confessions is the one we all probably would say is the greatest. But the greatest when you talk to songwriters and musicians and artists, they would probably go with songs in the key of life. Pige, get the clip ready. Lauren Hill, the miseducation of Lauren Hill. Which you could debate that's not an R&B album. So I don't even know if it should be compared to Brandy Full Moon. Yeah.

It's both. It's hip-hop and there's a lot of R&B on it though. I can make a case it's more of an R&B album than it is a rap album. Full Moon is a great album though. Of course. Like I just, you know. But what's about the number one spot is a crazy thing to just say. It's tough, man, because all of this is subjective.

It's all about, you know, what you like and your taste level and things. like that. But as we're sitting here talking about it and I'm kind of like listening to some of the songs on Full Moon in my head, like the production on that alone and then like Brandy's vocals like heard. Rodney Juergens did the whole thing. Yeah, it's just

that's an incredible, incredible R&B project. Then all right, let's just do rapid fire then. Who is Jill Scott? Full Moon. Who is Joe Scott? Over Full Moon? personally.

It's a personal thing, yeah. DeAngelo Brown Sugar. Full moon. Full moon. Going brown sugar. Mary Jay, my life. Full moon. Full moon.

Damn, I'm going my life. See, now today I'm the Brandy hater. And I love Brandy. I think she's the greatest vocalist of all time. I can't tell. I can't. I actually think you think she's the worst vocalist of all times. That's just how I'm feeling right now as I listen to you.

No, is Whitney and Brandi one A, one B? The greatest. All right. let me try to get myself back here I'll throw a ringer in there Justin Timberlake the 2020 experience what we're doing right now I'm just trying to give a full moon

against a white guy get that gap commercial out of here don't do that it's definitely not better than full moon with 2020 experience is fire the gap when I say gap commercial that's not a knock I love the gap and the commercials are iconic I'm just saying when you're talking about full moon I know it shouldn't even been in the conversation I was fucking around yeah all right back

back to rapid fire Carl Thomas emotional Great album, but full moon Full moon Donnell Jones, where I want to be Another great album, but full moon Full moon. Full moon. Ring her here.

Colliderstone dreams, Miguel. Full moon. Colisecope Dreams is a great album. That's a modern classic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great album. Faith Evans, Faith Evans. Faith Evans. Faith Evans.

She got my joint on there too. That's my shit she got on there, but I'm going full moon. moon. Okay. 100% genuine. You lost your virginity to that. Don't, don't laugh. Full moon, man. I'm going full moon. It's a great album. I was trying to throw some, some random ones that aren't all Stevie Wonder

at Marvigay. Shadee love deluxe. Oh, come on, man. Don't do that. That's a tough one. Yeah, don't do that. That one's neck and neck. Oh, man, don't do that. Sheesh. Damn, that's tough. Make a decision. It depends. See, if you're asking me today, today I'm going full moon. Saturday I might have said shot it, you know what I'm saying?

But today depends on, you know, today. It's just like, you know what I mean? Yeah. I would go full moon just because of errors. But, yeah. This is an easy one for Damaris. Velvet rope. Velvet rope.

The Velvet Roe is one of the greatest R&B artists all, greatest R&B albums all. Great album, but I don't know if it's, just because, again, I'm always thinking vocal performance as well as production. That's not fair. Then Brandy would win the majority of every album we just pretty much wins every vocal.

No, but I mean, if you name, no, because you can name another Brandy album against Velvet Rope, and I'll say Velvet Rope. But just the production of music on Full Moon and Brandy's vocal. vocal performance. Like, it's just tough to beat that. All right. Of course, Brandy's branding with vocals, but if you're adding in production and vocal performance, Velvet Rope, to me, checks those boxes at an extremely high level as well.

Oh, no, for sure. To me, Velcroft is a classic guy. I honestly think I prefer the production on Velvet Rope over Full Moon. Really? Yeah. It's more my type of shit. Got till it's gone, go deep. More my type of shit. I get so lonely. Where are we, y'all gone. Y'all gone now. Start naming some of the joints on four more. you want to do that if we're going to start naming tracks it's kind of unfair we're talking about

it here like have y'all listen to when last time you all you listen to full moon i listen to brandy's album more than most people's actually yeah i that is a great album man i'm talking about from the time it the top of the record i wasn't mad at eric bellinger it just was like out the gate number one but i'm always to me i just feel like confessions is you know um better than full more i go a little more neo soul with the next two iduism damn that's a classic i'm still going full more Okay. Because the way I feel like full moon defined an R&B generation, I think Badoism, you could say the exact same thing. Oh, no, for sure. You're not naming no trash out. Let me just throw that out there. Like, you name it some of the greatest albums that we've been lucky enough to hear. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let's get that out the way. Maxwell Urban Hanksweet. Damn.

Underrated classic album, if there's such a category. Yeah. It's an underrated classic. There's very few that can sing better than Maxwell, so... Shit. I'm still going to go full moon. I'm going to go full moon. I'm going to go full moon for the majority of these. But that's because I'm a brandy stand. Yeah.

And I feel like he has that same issue. Do we consider Alia one of a million R&B album? Yeah. Or an R&B pop. But then again, full moon is R&B pop to me as well. Very R&B pop. I'm still going full moon, but one of the million is right there. Yeah, for sure.

I would probably go one in a million. We'll go to Mall's era real quick. Tevin Campbell, I'm ready. What's up with you today? You all right? Good, though? Because I'm just saying, I don't like the way... You guys were both young singers?

Yeah, but I don't like the way you think Tevin out there like that. No, I'm going full moon as well. Yeah. All right, well, that was fun. I mean, I'm sure I missed a bunch. That was just an awful whim of looking at Barbie. That was some great, great albums. But Full Moon is definitely a...

I got to listen to that album again now. See, now, now tonight I got to listen to Full Moon. I got to let that album rock tonight. Do you guys think Full Moon is Brandy's best album? Absolutely. Yeah. Let me not. I guess she had the self-title, right, Brandy?

Then she had, that was, she had a self-title album. Yes. I think Full Moon is better than that. Let me, what's the track list on Never Say Never? I think Never Say Never is better than Full Moon. That's just. What? Oh, yeah.

My favorite song of all. All time, no matter who the artist is, is on Never Say Never. And I would go Never Say Never over Full Moon. What? Angel in Disguise is one of the greatest songs ever written. I fucking love that song so much. Yeah, I don't know. To me, Never Say Never and Full Moon are kind of like Confessions 8701 for me.

Yeah. There's one that would be the popular one to say is the better one. But when you go through the track list, like 8701, is right there with confessions. And I think Never Say Never is right there with Full Moon. To me, that's the second best album, but I think Full Moon is. There's some joints on here. The Boy is Mine

Almost Doesn't count Angel in the Skies, Top of the World. Have you ever? Please. Please. We ain't named no Full Moon tracks yet, right? I mean, it's like, do you need to name the Thriller tracks? I'm just saying. I hear that.

I think y'all are partial to the Dark Child Sound, and I think that that sound, Full Moon has a sound and it like kind of ushered in an era of that sound and I think that's why people are so attached to it

but it's not a better album than never say never. Did Dark Child ever do a versus? No. I think so. Yeah, I'm pretty sure no. Oh man, I don't think so. Who would he have,

who would stand in front of that? No, he didn't do a versus. Hmm. That didn't go already? Yeah. I'm not, who didn't go already, I have no idea. But, I mean,

The only other person I think who could stand in front of it, Dark Child's catalog is J.D. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis might. They didn't have one. Yeah. But I just, I think it's just the errors is a little different. Yeah, it would have to be, JD. Because, I mean, you're not fucking with Dark Child. And Timberland did one already, right?

He did. I mean, the first one, how his birth was him and Swiss on IG Live. They just did some fun shit when they were bored one night. and made half a billion dollars off it. Change podcast forever. All the niggas did was show us how rich they are. Nickets is on there. You know what?

No, I got this. Y'all know how much this is kicking in residual every year. Oh, yeah. And like how many JZ DMX records they just have on their hard drive, just sitting there. Yeah, that was just like, that was MTV Cribs, like on a more intimate level. Let me show y'all what I really got. This is kind of a morbid topic that I don't really want to put in the air,

but we all pass away eventually. Do you think in producers' wills, like their hard drives are going to be there? Because that's kind of a newer thing, you know, before Dats and everything. Yeah. Those hard drives, like, have to be, have some type of clause in your will, right?

I would believe so, because that's part of your catalog, right? Even though it's not out yet. No, well, technically not. If there's no paperwork on it, it doesn't really exist. You can't do anything with it without paperwork and everyone agreeing,

but it's not like your pub at that point. But I mean, we've had artists pass away and their music is released. Then they paperwork everything. But I'm saying like if you come across three of Timberland's hard drives, you're probably going to find some of the craziest records ever that never saw the light of day. Three of them. Just one of them. Three of them, you hit the mother level.

You find three of Timlin's hard drives. You out of here, man. And of course, they're not in some of the family situations that some of us are in like, you know, when you have a family member die, you can't keep. all that shit, yard sale, throw that shit. Like, that's how, like, I thought Boosie got the Kappa shirt because a lot of times when

Kappa's passed away, their families aren't members, so they just, they don't know what to do with it. So it ends up at a thrift store, and then someone just buys it. Not knowing exactly what they're buying, yeah. Or some kid in Vietnam has a Kappa jacket. Yeah. Like the, like, the

Chief Super Bowl shirt from this year. Ship all that shit over there. But can you imagine, like, if a famous producer just didn't have a lot of family and like didn't have a proper will and then just some random nephew that they didn't even know all of a sudden inherits all this shit and they have enough going on in their life so they're just going through the basement and find all this like what am i doing with this then yeah let me let me sell this back to staples yeah just get it out of here yeah but i mean i do think they have to have some type of thing in their will because that's still

their art like i would love even though it's not out it would be fun to do this while the producers were alive, like a version of storage wars with all their hard drives and like what that bidding would look like. If you had Swizz's storage unit and Tim's right there and it's just three hard drives on the floor. Yeah. And like all you have is like little hints of how they labeled it. Like 98 roughrider session or like shit like that. Like a bottle of wine. Yes. 98. And because you know storage wars you kind of have to guess what's worth it and sometimes it ends up being worth so much money. Sometimes it's nothing. Imagine that with hard drives with our favorite producers.

It ought to be crazy. That would be a cool way to release, unreleased music. Just finding hard drives? And, you know, the way they auctioned off that Wutang album to that fucking dirtbag pharmacist guy, to me, if you wanted to raise money, do it through a storage war bit.

You watch storage wars? I have before. It's not like my go-to. But when I do watch it, I watch it for hours. It's one of those. Like, I watch it once a year, but it's six hours out of that year. Once you there, you did. That's fun.

I like storage wars. I love it. I love storage wars. I can't. It's kind of shocking. Why? I don't know. You don't strike me as a storage wars guy.

I just like when they start fighting over shit. Yeah. And once they go on there, they'd be like mad that he outbitted him. He said, oh, you didn't hear me. And then they start scrapping. And then you come to find out that the unit's only worth $250. Yeah. Y'all just fought for $250.

I'm more of a hoarder's guy. Horters is hilarious. That shit is disgusting. I know. That shit makes my fucking say. I could smell a TV. Like, I know it's stinking there. Like, you living in there?

What the fuck is going on? And I love that they do like help those people out, but they don't help their addiction. They just give them a clean house to restore more shit. No, they, no, no, no, they don't do that because they have therapists there. They give them care after and stuff like that and hope that they, sometimes people take it. And sometimes they were like, yo, you know, then haven't heard from them and hopefully they're okay. No, you just gave them a clean. It's literally filing for bankruptcy.

She gave them a clean slate to spend some more money. Anyways, though. I saw that Beyonce is allegedly struggling to sell the Cal Wake harder tickets. Who said that? The news. The news. A couple of news articles. Just because it's not sold out, they say she's struggling because it's not sold out yet.

Let me help every news article, every news program out there. When it's showtime, each one of those arenas will be sold out. I can promise you that. People ain't buying it right now. They're probably waiting like, you know, get closer to the time. I got bills. People got bills right now. tax season to say people out to get their income tax oh them tickets will be sold out don't trip

and even if they don't sell out does that mean why is that a news article does that suddenly mean bianca's a failure if she wasn't able to sell out every stadium on her tour no what like what the fuck are we what are we still bianca what are we talking about i can't even believe that that's a news article trust me trust and believe those those tours those shows will be sold out well i think what this article from, you know, it's Yahoo at this point used to be credible now who the fuck knows. They're saying because of the ticket prices being so expensive that the average consumer can't afford it and that's why it's not Beyonce's popularity. Beyonce has proven every other year that she can sell out stadiums, baseball field, everything constantly, no matter what. They're speaking,

I think, to it being $1,200 for some seats, but there's some for $93. That's still expensive for a ticket. Don't get me wrong. but when you're going to high-level shows at stadiums, 93 is cheaper than the sports that play there. Yeah. So it was $1,200 tickets at the last show. And guess what? There's $5,000.

If you want to go into the B-Hive VIPs, it's like five-brand. And all of that shit was sold up. Yeah, no, I'm not like, what are we talking about here, man? Because it didn't sell out yet, okay, we get it. And also, it's not just a B-A-P, because I'm seeing, like, the news articles are saying, you know, sometimes the, or people are saying the fans will retire for you if you're not ready to retire, which is such a dumb shit in reference to Beyonce, but like live music everywhere is suffering. It has been suffering. Ticketmaster is a terrible conglomerate and they need

to kill the CEO of that. Oh, I didn't say that out loud. I'm so sorry. Shit, I got to bite my tongue sometimes. But no, for real. Like, we're killing the wrong CEOs. Like, Ticketmaster is terrible. No, starting at health insurance was a good move. Okay. Yeah. Ticket master is a little lower than health insurance. Like, I feel you. The $4 pre-order handling fee. You have to pay $4.00. just to get to the other fees. So I'm with you. Like they're on the list, but... A little lower down.

Let's deal with universal healthcare. But yeah, like, Ticketmaster is insane. It's a recession. People don't have the money. Like, give people time. Give people time. They'll buy. And also, to your point, if she doesn't, she will.

In 20 years, when we talk about Beyonce's career and legacy, we'll be like, you know, she was a pop star, but she didn't sell out Tennessee that one year. Yeah, that one year. Instead of Atlanta, that was really a tough year for her. Fuck what we talking about. Put an asterisk next to her name. Like, I mean, lemonade's great.

Stupid shit. I just, I feel like this is the same thing as the album sales. We just, the general public just needs to stop knowing this information. Because they don't know what the fuck to do with it. Of course not. Like anything. But, I mean, we're trained to be that way. We don't even know fucking mortgages.

You think we're going to understand album sales and how streams work? We're taught to be ignorant. And then they give us the info to make it look like we, You know what we're talking about. But I mean, I'm excited for the tour. When is the MetLife date? Mine is May 28th. May 28th.

Okay. Oh, that shit is coming up. Yeah, it's close. Very close. What's the first date? May 21st, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. I mean, MetLife.

So two months away, and they told me how it's not sold out yet. I'm sure MetLife is probably, I know, some tickets. either way there's always tickets. That's another thing with the resale game and everything. There's always tickets. Tickets. I know they're purchased, but people are always selling them back.

It's constantly happening up until, even in the middle of the fucking show. You can buy them. Like, my godbrother a lot of times buys the cheapest ticket and then we'll look at what's available in the middle, like at halftime, and then buy the cheapest ticket

in the front row. And it ends up being cheaper than buying that front row ticket in a long run. Like, people are just constantly... It's a game. The data doesn't even, like, make sense of what's sold out and what's not at this point, but...

Are you going? I'd be down to go. I would buy a ticket, too. Chaps ass out, chaps up. Um, I mean, would you style me? What's your aesthetic? I was actually was gonna ask Kellynne for help

because I don't know about, like, the Southern rodeo... I don't know. I'm scared. And you want to look like the person that just bought a cowboy hat. Yeah, that's cheesy. I don't want to be that girl.

You want to be authentic. like he really like I want to buy real cowboy boots I want to have the real cowboy hat not the one that they're going to sell at like Zara you know that she's partnered with for the tour yeah like oh you know I want some real shit so I mean what if we showed up to MetLife like on horse buggy do you think there's like they why horse why don't you just ride the actual I know how to ride actual horses in New Jersey like off the like the turnpike in Route 3 like not in a field

I'm talking about on the way and wait wait wait hold on hold on I'm talking about talking because y'all letting De Maris get some six shit off right now Damaris where you know how to ride a horse at What do you mean? I know how to ride horses How often do you ride horses?

I used to horseback ride regularly in Syracuse It was my past time Okay when the last thing you rode a horse I know you got the horse riding boots on today But when the last time you rode a horse ago? I ride horses

I have photos Multiple photos of me riding horses And every time I visit a new city I've tried to ride a horse there I'm not saying anything. There's something wrong or ride of horses? I'm just saying, I've never seen, I've never seen,

off the list for horse riding. Do you have any videos on your Instagram of you riding horses, any pictures? I took all of that stuff down. But yeah, I have videos on my Instagram or rider horses. They're all in my archive and on my phone.

I'm about saying, we only saw her at the saddle ranch at the mechanical bowl. She did well. No, I ride. I ride horses. I know how to ride horses. When you say ride, though,

Like, I don't like, like, like, I gallop. No instructed just you. Yeah. Do you have the harness thing? There was a horse name. There was a horse name Sierra out in Syracuse that I would ride so often that they would just let me take her out there because they knew I, they trusted me. How do you, like, I've written a horse before, but it was in a controlled environment, like, just around.

So they have. How do you control a horse? What do you mean, how do you control a horse? I mean, I'm not riding wild horses. You direct her. What? I don't, I'm kind of. confused about what? Wait, you're confused that someone's asking how you control a large animal to do what

you want? It's not to, so have you ever ridden a horse? Yeah, but like at a birthday party, like a, oh, okay. So I'm like, no, like the stuff that you're, like, that you're sitting in and the, the reins that you hold, you move them. It's almost like a steering wheel, but a lot gentler, but yeah, you move that and it tells the horse go left, go right. You can kick it to go faster. Like, it's, yeah. I'm not a professional horse rider, but I ride horse. We go on horseback ride and I got to see them. We can do that. But yes, by no means am I a professional horse rider,

but it is one of my favorite past times. I like riding horses. I believe that she rode horses in her past, but I think she's changing the story and she was actually a jockey fixing races with her day. No, no. I've actually never been to horse. She's the OTB.

No, I watch the movie Focus. I do want to go like bet on horses one day or like go to the Kentucky Derby, hopefully like with a brand or something like one day. Kentucky Derby would be fun. I'm not betting on that shit. I know nothing about it. It feels too much like a chance to me.

I'd be too emotional. I wouldn't enjoy, like, the experience if I was betting on horses. I'm cool. Yeah, that's why I stopped. Never mind. We got sponsors. Oh, no, football.

I'll bet all day. Horses, nah. That's Saddle Ranch. I shouldn't enjoy it. But with that said, all right, so you can, you have the horse plug. Let's see if we can get

I had a MetLife plug. I could see maybe we could find some horse parking. No, I want to see Demaris ride a horse, though. Can you imagine if we showed up to the Cowboy Carter show on horseback? Like, we'd be legends. No, you'd actually be in the way of people trying to drive their cars and they would tell you to get the fuck out the road. That's what they would tell you, get the fuck out the road. Do you think Beyonce will have, like, ride a horse the way she did for the Christmas

halftime show? At the show? Yeah. Yeah, I could see her definitely. at some point being on a horse at the show that would be a part of the set

or like the mechanical bull type thing for sure can you imagine like at the stable all the horses like you know

Sierra's there Demara shows up they go around and then one of the horses like yeah I'm about to go on tour with Beyonce that's my gig now

yeah and you know the horse is acting crazy at the stable with the rest of the horses right now talking all that shit like hey

I don't eat that shit Julius get them away from me. Yeah, I don't eat that shit. Get that fucking grass out of here. I have security now. If you have to, like, be a horse that's not free in, like, the Midwest or whatever, what a cool gig to have.

Like, yeah, just Beyonce rises me out. I take her to stage and then I go right back and I get my carrots. Yeah, lay down on silk pillows and shit. Like, it's all good. Sorry, I was trying to find a picture, a couple pictures of me on horses to send to Josh. Yeah. Now, that's the carnivals where you pay five. for the photo.

Yeah, okay. That horse is definitely chained to that fence. Yeah, until we get up and get moving. The fuck. You be talking to Sierra? I got a few video. Sierra was wild. Sierra was, she had an attitude problem.

So, like, she was either cool or she was like, she'd get in her moves where she wouldn't want you to get on top of her. Like, she was. Was she an Aries? Fuck you. Definitely a tourist. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Wishy-washy and, like, moody, tourists, for sure. So she's a woman. Yeah. That was a horse. I took that photo. Oh, God, that's a terrible photo of me. When I was trying to ride a horse, when I was traveling during COVID, that was on the border of San Diego in Mexico. That's kind of fire.

Yeah. So I, like, ran it in, like, the beach and the water. It was, it was fun. They had the option of Mexico to do the horse or the four-wheeler. And I was like, I'll take the four-wheeler. Really? The horse would have been more beautiful on the beach. I just give it a four-wheeler.

And you know how you think you'd be. probably look on a horse that's galloping, you don't look like that for real. Like, you look scared. You look like you look like I don't like, I don't look like the girls that post the photo when they're on the beach on the horse, way more attractive. I would look nuts on that thing. I'm not fucking with no horse. I can barely control a pit bull. You think I'm going to get on the fucking horse? Hell no. It's the feeling, especially when they're like running, like when you're running a horse, like, especially when we were on the beach, it was so much like wind and you could smell the ocean. Like, it's, it's a ethereal experience. You guys definitely have to try it.

I'm beautiful. I think at this point, cops still using horseback in New York City is officially animal cruelty. Like before I kind of understood what it was, you know,

there's traffic, they can get around easier. We have different types of bikes. We have fucking those things that you just push forward and go. Why are cops still on horseback dressed not for combat? They're dressed for style

on horses not doing anything. That's animal cruelty. Well, you don't need the horse. The horses live, those horses are very well taken care of, though. Why are the police horse? They definitely.

live great lives. But why? I mean, you know. Let them roam free. Well, yeah, I agree. There's no purpose except for show. It's a show thing. Well, no, then, you know,

they used to have purpose. They need horses at Juve for sure in Brooklyn. So it's for crowd control, crime deterrence in public relations. Crowd control, juvee. Wait, all right. They need a horse at juvee. Guys, they have pepper spray, tear gas. We've seen them in action.

No, but they're mounted. Like, so they're mounted. they can see higher than the crowd, they can see things that are going on and they can get there in a timely manner without running people over with cars and places where cars are not allowed. I was saying the electronic shits they have now,

either with just regular bicycles or those electronic joints that they be on sometimes. That to me is... To my, a segue? Yeah. I ain't no cop catching me on no fucking segue, man. You got out of it.

Do you catch me on horseback? I've seen it. I'm hopping that turnstile immediately and Sierra's going head first into it. Well, I mean, I mean, ain't no horse going to go down no subway. Why are you talking about?

Ain't no horse going down no subway steps. I mean, I'm just saying in the streets, I've definitely seen dudes get locked up like by a cop on a horse. All I need is a revolving door and she's not happening.

That is the dumbest thing. That's just for show to feel authority. Yeah, a lot of police presence is just authority though. But it needs to be attached to some type of action if something goes wrong. They died to use it.

What was the last time you read in any newspaper that the same, suspect was caught on horseback. Name one. Well, technically you got to get down. Like, take catch you. No, I know you don't.

I've seen the cop grab a nigga by his shirt and was on top of the horse. This niggas's face was on the thigh. It was like Gladiator? Yeah, he had him like this until another cop came and got him. Yeah, he ain't got to get off that horse. I've seen in the paper on the news, cops pursued them in the car. They even named the cop car, what number it was, got out, pursued him on foot. I've never once read that they were caught by horseback.

bicycle I've seen everything. Even with crowd control. The crowd was controlled by tear gas. The crowd was controlled by batons. Swat gear. No, that it does not. Let's not advocate for that. I'm just telling you what they do.

Yeah. They be catching folk. No, that's crowd control. Because if a horse starts coming through. I have the upper hand on the sidewalk if a cop is on a horse. Yeah, but that's not what's cool. I like my odds. No, no, you're not.

That's not crowd control, though. Like, we're not talking about people who really are committing. huge crimes, like crowd control. Man, I'll just start running in circles. Confuse the fuck out of the words. Rory. There are also, it says public relations. The Mounted Unit is a popular and recognizable symbol of the NYPD, fostering positive

interactions with the public. It also says CPR on the side of their car that says respect, purity, whatever the fuck bullshit. Yeah, courtesy, professionalism or respect. What's wrong with you, though? Purity is crazy. Purity? You think the NYPD is pure?

No, I'm telling you they lie about what they're out there to do. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Do you feel like there's a good civil communication when you see that cop on that horse? Nah, I've just seen when niggas acting up in the streets and once cops with horses pull up, niggers disperse. Because it smells. Yeah, you don't want that big ass, you turn around to see a big ass horse face in front of you? You're moving.

I guarantee you you're moving off that sidewalk. I would love, you know, we did with Dale in Detroit. We did the whole training course. That would have to be a civil concern, whatever. I've seen other content creators do the police course. You and I should do the police horse course, just that one. Like how to get certified as a police officer on horse. Because there has to be some type of training.

Oh, I mean, yeah, you've got to know how to ride a horse first. Yeah, but I'm sure you have to like be able to do. Speak horse? That too. It's like when the white cops try to speak Spanish. Yeah. Ola. Do you just say hi.

But now, what's the game? a polo. Like I'm sure you have to know like some polo moves and shit. With the baton? Yeah, you got to know how to like really grab a suspect on horseback and then like what do you do with them? I told you just now they just hold them close to the horse. You're not moving because you scared that horse going to kick the shit out to you. You ain't moving next to no horse. I mean because I've seen videos of like the army training with dogs and police dogs and stuff like that that's a process process. I can only imagine what the horse wanted. The cops need to they need to. They need to

change dogs too. Niggas ain't scared of German Shepherds no more. Who ain't? If a horse pull up with a red nose pit, if a cop pull up with a red nose pit, you start running and the red nose pit jump out the cop car. You definitely are slowing down.

If they walk out with a chihuahua, I know that thing is trained to kill. I'm scared of any dog that a cop is with. That shit got the best on and canine on it. I am petrified. If a cop pull you over here, canine jump out the beach. a chihuahua jump out the backseat.

I'm running. I know that's the sleeper cell. Like that's the one. Man, I kicked this shit out that chihuahua. Nah. I wish a chihuahua would chase me in the projects. Get the fuck out of it. I think that black people have a fear of,

I know me personally, I've always had a fear of German shepherds because they've always been connected to being police dogs for me. So even people who just have them at their crib, I'm like, nah, I don't, your dog racist, I don't fuck with it. Like, I don't know.

And if you own a German shepherd and you ain't got a house. house? What the fuck you doing? That dog too big to be in this studio apartment, my nigga. Training it. Why you got this big ass dog in an apartment building? Like, get a house, man. What's the, uh, what's the history of the German Shepherd and why it ended up in the police force? I have an idea, but I don't want to be wrong. What's your idea? This is why you could just search it so you ain't got to say nothing crazy. But it's just ironic, like that breed ended up being. Well, it says German Shepherds are popular

police dogs due to their intelligence, trainability, loyalty, and physical capabilities to catch niggers. I'm saying, who figured that out? Yeah, it was trial and never. They had the research that. What dogs they used before? Yeah. How did they just land on German Shepherds?

I'm telling you, somebody at the station just had a German Shepard one day. And they're like, that's the official police dog. Man, I watched a tearjerker. What's the movie that recently came out last, like, five years of the bomb dog in Iraq? was a true story about the woman with her dog what was it Megan Levy's in it That's his best friend's wife

Megan Levy is the name of it Such a random fact to have Wait what the fuck just happened Megan Levy is the actress or is that the name of the movie Oh wait Megan Levy is the real person Oh well I salute to her service I cried throughout the entire movie Is the dog still alive?

Oh damn but she has a German Shepherd now. Got you. Well, yeah. She was in the Marines and got, like, stationed as one of the dog handlers where they check out the minefields

and bombs and shit. Bombs sniffing? And she got blown up a bunch of times. And it's, if you want to cry? Wait, the dog got blown up a bunch of times? Both of them. I feel like... Well, what do you mean a bunch of times?

I thought once you get blown up once, that's it. No. You're saying a bunch of times. This is how ill Meggin is. After that, she was like, nah, I'm straight. Let's go. The dog, too.

No, she's a true American fucking hero. Did she lose a limb? No, but she got fucked up, though. The dog ended up losing a limb or something. But, you know, we all seen three-legged dogs. They're fine. When y'all say they got blown up, what do you mean blown up? Okay.

Because I've seen shit get blown up before. Them niggas ain't lived to see another time. I'm obviously not a marine expert, but just based off the amount of bomb and minefields that they have to search, the odds are in your favor that you're going to be blown up a few fucking. stop saying blown up yeah that's what they lose he losing me at you can't say blown up i think your body parts are splattered like that's blown up to me a bomb went off right next to them okay okay all right so they went to blast radius what you want to say blown to smithereens like no i want you to say you know they were close to like bombs when they went off yeah they literally lived in the minefield

but you can't say blown up you know what they weren't blown up rory if if you come in here and say yo my dog got blown up last night i'm like damn my god don't know's like damn my god's And if you follow that up with, nah, she's good. I'm going to be like, but then your dog didn't get blown up. Bays a soldier. But then your dog didn't get blown up. Yes. If a bomb goes off in here and we all survive, you don't think I'm going to tell everyone

that we got blown up? No, we didn't. No, I think if we got blown up, we wouldn't be around to say nobody that we got blown up. You've never heard someone that got shot in that terminology too. Yeah, he got blown up. Like, yeah. Nah, man. He got shot.

When he didn't make it, guess what? He got killed. That's the difference. Blown up means you're dead. If me and Bays are walking through the desert and hit a mine and the mine blows up and then we go this way and we both get injured, me and Bays got blown the fuck up. We survived to tell the story. I mean, Megan's ill. I'm not going back to that fucking minefield.

She's different. I mean, I guess, I mean, so in the Boston Marathon, when those sprinters, when a bomb, would they say they got blown up? No. What do they say? I was assaulted by a mixture of grocery products the right way. They say I was there. I was there that day. Damn, we laugh.

I don't mean to laugh at that. That's crazy. No, it's fine because one of my favorite Chris Rock S&L jokes they killed him for was he did a monologue. He said, imagine running 26 miles. You train and all it. You get to the finish line and someone yells, run. Like more? I just ran Boston.

It's a bomb. Run. I'm exhausted. I'll be, I'll be pissed. Oh, man. We should be laughing at that. Well,

Megan Levy, the movie is incredible. And sorry, Josh, I thought that was the name of the actor, not the actual woman. Oh,

so you knew the, you know the woman woman. Well, she's a hero. And if you, yeah, if you want to cry, dogs and military, that's all you need.

She got PTSD? That's like a bulk of... She's very well-adjustly. He says she's very well- adjusted to regular life. Okay. In the movie. Shout out to Megan Levy.

Yeah. She definitely goes through that. Do y'all watch like the, like the military tapouts or military surprises, like online? When people do like military surprises. What does that mean? Oh, like when someone's... When the family come back? Yes.

Oh, of course. Yeah. And they can't move until they're, like, told they can get out of line. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when we were trying to get Mall to cry, it was that stuff plus the, can you adopt me? step-parent YouTube videos Those are the two

I didn't I don't When my sister had to go to Iraq I don't know how they did it when she came back Because I don't think I was there We went when she was leaving Getting deployed But I don't know if they did that When they got back

I would have to ask her Got you And where did she deploy out of Virginia Out of Virginia Okay Oh so that's the Air Force thing What? Oh yeah

For basic training Okay She wasn't in the Air Force What's that send off like Oh man, I was crying like a fucking Because you almost feel like you sending your fucking relatives off to die That's what I mean, I didn't want to say that Yeah, like I was like, what the-

Yeah, absolutely like Some of y'all ain't coming back Yeah, that's just the reality of it Like you're just sitting there like It just felt like this is completely crazy This is wrong Like what are we doing? Like we all sitting in there

Somebody's giving the speech And my sister is standing right here With military equipment on Getting ready to get on a bus to go to the airport to go to Iraq. Like, the fuck are we, like, what is this? Oh, your sister was in Iraq. Yeah. What years? This was 2000, this was around the war, 2003. Oh, wow. This was right after 9-11. Right after 9-11. Yeah, my family's such assholes. My cousin Evan went in 08 to North Africa, then to Afghanistan. And we didn't go to his send-off, but they filmed

the whole thing of like my aunt, like, bawling on the ground of the, cement like as he was leaving. I was like, yo, y'all are assholes. Why would you film this? Like, they're sending it to us. I'm like, you guys are sick. Yeah, that experience is, my sister was telling me about a family that used to help them out over there. They would come, like, do their laundry, things like that, you know. And then for a while, they hadn't seen them. They was like, yo, they didn't come back to the base. They haven't been around. And I think when it never happened, they ended up killing the family because they found out that they were helping the American troops. Oh, wow. So it was like a young kid,

mother father crazy shit man crazy this is your twin yeah oh wow do you feel less of a man that you weren't going over there for oh yeah absolutely like it should have been you yeah I'm a for sure oh my god I remember being young

this was 04 so I was 10 and I remember crying every single time my cousin would go off like because he was stationed in Iraq And every time he would come home, I would be so happy. And then he would, like, you know, go and do another tour. And I remember just crying. Like, as a kid, it's very confusing because you don't know exactly what's going on. And my parents would have CNN on 24-7.

And every time somebody would knock at the door, my grandmother would freak out. It was, it was heavy. Yeah, that's great. I mean, not to say that 08 to 2012 wasn't insane when my cousin was there, but I could only imagine, like, mid-2000s, anytime you turn on the TV, it was just fucking death, death, Iraq, this is crazy. that must have been stressful. And it's crazy because when she joined it like it wasn't no wars.

It was like everything was kind of peaceful. Wasn't like much going on. Yeah. Like imagine you jumped September 1st, 2001. A year into her, a year into it, 9-11 happened. It was like, all right, we're definitely going to war now. Like, yeah, it was crazy. And you can't just like, like, yeah, I quit actually.

I mean, you can, but then what does that call? A-WOL, Absin without leave? Yeah. Like, or dishonorable discharge? It's like, it's a whole bunch of shit that comes with that. But like, go to jail for that. Yeah, go to jail forever attached to your social securities. Like, Erp Boudoo, whatever the fuck that kid's name was.

Cereal did like their second or third season about it. He was in Iraq and just left the camp and then got captured by the Taliban and was there for like five, six years or whatever. And the rumors were that he kind of joined up with them or was he really a prisoner? It was a lot of back and forth. And then I think Obama got him back. And like they killed Obama for that because most people. people thought he went AWOL and joined the Taliban rather than he was in a camp.

Yeah. Burk, Bo, Bo, Bergdahl. That's what it is. If you guys watch Zero Day yet, speaking of things that would send us to war? No. I'm on the last episode, I want to say. It's good so far. I won't give anything away until you guys watch it.

Is Jason Bateman in that? I feel like he's in every fly. No, he's missing from that. He would fit perfectly into it. Yo, Jason Bateman got to be the hardest working man to show biz. Did y'all see his latest commercial? Sorry, Roy. Jason Bateman?

Jason Bateman's. Yeah. No. Where he's playing Batman, but instead of Batman, he's Bateman. I think it's a Verizon commercial. It has Kai Sinai and it. Cizza is playing Catwoman. No, I missed that.

That sounds like a great commercial, though. It's so funny. Yeah, I haven't seen that yet. Yeah. Was that a Super Bowl release? That came out like. It was supposed to be, but I got pushed back. Yeah, it came out like this week, sometime this week.

Oh, okay. Did we talk about the Jason Baitin movie where he plays the bad guy at TSA? I watched it. Okay. Do we ever talk about that on the show? No, I don't think. What? Fucking terrible.

Okay. Nothing checks out as far as reality in it, but I didn't think it was a bad movie. That shit was terrible. Oh, carry on. Carry on. That shit was terrible. I watched it because of you. It was cool.

Because you came here. You was like, yo, I like it. It was kind of cool. I saw the awful reviews, but I was entertained the entire time. That was one of the first Jason Bateman movies. I felt like he just took that like on his day off. He looked like he did that in two days. It took him two days to shoot that shit.

Nothing checking. out as far as the amount of cameras and security in an airport, but, you know, it's a movie. And then, look who saved them at the end. Like, oh, can't you like, just get the fuck out. So many times people could have exited the situation, and this would have been over. Now you're on the wheel of a plane. Yeah, like, come on with this shit, man. Zero Day is, I won't say it's similar to that, but it is like the attack on the country type of thing, but they go about it with all the electricity and power. It's, it's, it's, it's, It's one of those similar.

What was the one that the Obama's produced? Oh, God. I know. With the end of the world. Yeah. It's not like that, but it's like that. It's one of those, it's one of those movies where it's like, are they fucking with us or are they warning us? I mean.

Are they trying to keep us scared or is this probably going to happen? Well, we kind of had some situation with the guy in Canada over the electricity the last four or five days, him and Trump. Yeah. Kind of going back and forth. So, I mean, listen. Oh, I mean, X going down. Same thing. Yeah.

Russian attack I gotta watch this though Because anything with De Niro I watch So I'm gonna definitely check this out He um He's great in it I was a little nervous Because what is De Niro not great in

But he's getting old as fuck So sometimes So he has to play these roles I'm just waiting for like that one role It's like dude he's got to hang it up He's great in it He's phenomenal So this isn't when he's playing his twin

That's coming up right No Okay No that's like that's a mafia movie Yeah and he's not playing his twin He's playing both mob bosses They're not twins he's just playing both of them

Imagine to be a twin mob bosses Imagine it being two heads of a collie own family That would be a wild RICO case Who do you charge? It wasn't me I wasn't doing that shit Proof it. Proof it was me, wasn't me. Same DNA.

Yeah. Imagine snitching on your brother because of DNA. So you got to get it off. Which I mean I'm going to see that De Niro movie. I just feel like they could have found someone else like there's a lot of actors.

Yeah, but I'm doesn't play both. Oh, the movie that's coming up is on my own. Yeah. Oh, okay. I just, you know, it's a big call sheet for 90-year-olds. What's the name of it? He's the head of the, um,

because Scorsesey's doing it, right? Um, it's called Alto Knights. He's playing Vito Genevice and Frank Costello, both old mob bosses that, you know, helped start the old shit. And it's, uh, actually Barry Levinson. It's not, um, Scorsese. But I mean, Barry Levinson is a...

Incredible. legendary director so yeah i'm i'm interested to see i i give a lot to general man he's how old is he actually at this point got to be 80 here he's still having kids and knocking out netflix series like fuck a movie that's one thing each one of these episodes on zero days an hour like he's filming for real 81 years old it's a nice 81 what what is that he's talented he's talented He's a talented man He's still talented I just agree with what y'all was saying

Yo y'all always trying to make me the hornball On the fucking podcast You just said I'm just That's a nice 81 Okay No but it was it was the Before that That's not indicative of his work is great

She's a amazing She's a amazing She's amazing You know black girls love He doesn't look amazing for 80s He looks like Cole Old Mill What are you talking about? That's not

Robert De Niro That's it looks great for 80s In Zero Day His role is the past president, like the old fucking dementia Biden president. Bobby De Niro looks crazy. You're talking about him. He looks like an 81-year-old Italian. Yeah, but he doesn't look great.

That he drugs in the 70s. I don't think he looks a damn. He looked great in taxi cab. Maybe even Cape right now, no. He looked old in Goodfellas in 1990. He looks great. Whatever. He doesn't look a day over 75.

Yes, he does. He looks two days from 90. What are you talking about? I finished Paradise. Watch the last episode. Oh, you said. Yeah, because I still did finish like the second half of it. Left to Cliffhanger for season two.

I'm excited. How did you feel about it? I got to watch that because every is like since I think DeMaris mentioned it, probably six people have told me about that show. Yes, it's really, really good. I think that the season finale was a little, a little underwhelming, but I enjoy. Okay, I agree with you, but if they didn't get greenlit for the second season, like halfway through the first one, it would be kind of pissed, actually. Oh, really? Because it just left so much.

Oh, yeah. I'm not going to spoil it, but it left first season two to see what's out there. Yeah. I want to know how the, I want to know how the evil person became so evil. Because, like, they gave you a little bit, but like that ain't enough to make you that evil. Like, I want to know what made you that evil. Yeah. So.

but um since mara like goes to like sleep on time now i'm like i'm back on my netflix shit i'm caught up with so much stuff we rarely talk about shows that's because i never get to watch them i watched uh russ's debut as an actor trap m night chamelon i'm mispronouncing it again is it good um yeah okay i did really really like it i couldn't figure out if it was a comedy or a horror least halfway through and I'm still a little confused on what it was but I know M night does a lot of that like I don't know fog between the two genres of is this real or not it's like purposeful terrible acting but I think that's the point it's about it's about this guy that takes his daughter to see a pop star that she loves like raven something and they get locked in the arena

there's an FBI sting operation going for a serial killer that's in the arena at the show. And that's the premise of it. And Russ... That's a great actual, like, storyline. Yeah. Russ is the, like, surprise guest that she brings out. I forgot what they named Russ, but it was funny.

No, Russ, I mean, Russ did Russ. He went up and performed on stage and did great. Okay. And then at the end, well, not in the end. The end of the show, he comes out of his green room. I see what Russ was trying to do. He had his shirt all open. I don't think M. Knight told him to do that.

I think Russ was just getting on his shit coming out to Yeah Instead of add his little No styling myself Yeah yeah But I thought it was cool It was a good movie I'm trying to think what else

The Manson murders Again similar to the OJ shit Do we need another doc? No Will I watch it? Absolutely Absolutely Watch the Manson shit

I'll tell you what I will not be watching Raising Canaan season came back Oh God Listen man I love 50 I think what he's done in TV is incredible. But this...

You got me nervous. Because I like freezing game. Did you see the way it ended? No, I haven't seen the... Yeah, I saw it ended. Like how Unique got... So episode one came out and I'm like, all right, let me see this how they're going to try to say Unique got,

found his way out of the middle of the woods after getting beat in the back of the head with a pipe. Where he should be dead, but he'll all over a sudden lie. He somehow wakes up from this. near death beating with a lead pipe crawls his way to a gas station and finds his phone remembers his homeboy's number after getting beat in the back of his head

with a pipe. Remember somebody's number calls his friend. Friend comes pick him up. Doesn't want to alert anybody so you can't take him to the hospital so where do they take him? You guessed it to the veterinarian. Okay. Take him to a vet. Makes sense. Next time we see him he's in his homeboy's crib recovering hiding out. He don't even have a gauze pad on. no stitches

Wolverine that's why I went to the vet like just make this shit believable a little bit but Raising Canyon is the prelude of power

that's what happened before now we're starting to get closer to the power years where nothing makes any fucking sense that you can do that yeah but I just in the power world

because I like raising Canaan I think that that was the series you know started off great I was like damn this is really you know like 50 really

is fine in his way in this TV shit and he's really carving stories out. Like, but when, you know, the way it ended last year and Unique was standing in, the warehouse, or he's alive, I was like, all right, man, this is when it shit is just too, too much of a soap opera. It's too unbelievable. And now that you see-

He's not having a 50 in a warehouse in power. Yeah, no, but this was, we watched Ronnie beat unique in the back of his head with that pipe and drag him to the middle of nowhere and dump his body. And all of a sudden, he wakes up from that beaten with a lead pipe to the back of his head in the middle of the woods, finds a gas station somewhere. It's a call back to the case. That's why we never believed it from the beginning. It just doesn't add up, man. It's just too unbelievable.

We saw 50 get blown up in a warehouse and power. It wasn't, it was a fire. It wasn't blown up. And that to me is more believable than this. Yeah. Unique, Ronnie's shit. Like, unique is, he's supposed to be dead, man. And then now he goes to a vet and the vet just gives him some antibiotics or something.

And he's healing. Like, come on, man. I just can't. I don't know. 50 caters to his audience. What does that mean? He knows who his audience is. He knows who the people who are die hard raising cane in power.

He knows they like that super dramatic shit. Because they like this. It can be super dramatic. But it got to be real list. Come on. He was better off saying that he crawled to the side of the road and was laying in the street and somebody driving just saw him and was like, what the fuck? He found a gas station and then a phone booth.

And after getting his. brains beat out, remembered somebody's phone number? Come on with this shit. You say you're not like that. You're one of them. You're right. I'm not like that.

I don't like when it turns it to too much of a soap opera, that's all. I do suggest you guys check out the chaos Manson murder doc that Netflix just added. Of course, I knew that Charlie Manson and Manson family stories.

Like, it's pop culture. And I knew that he was an artist and had worked with like Beach Boys drummer and all that. I did not know he had the voice of a fucking angel. They played unreleased Charlie. Please. Do you.

I had to YouTube it. That shit's just on my, like, my playlist now. Charlie Manson. Do not listen to that, Roy. He was dope. There's been plenty of artists that we listen to that kill people. No, but like that type shit,

that's like demonic. Like, that'll rewire your brain. You don't need to be listening to that. Re-listen to his brain? It might wire it better. Reverse. He might fix something. Turn it up.

I mean, he, should we not listen to the beach boys? He wrote for them. Yeah, but his voice, it's like listening to like a, like a siren sing. Like, you shouldn't be listening to that. Man, women have sent that nigger panties while he was locked.

No, it's one thing to have hos, but it's one thing to have hos kill for you. He was ill. He was a different level. Like, he never actually killed anyone. He just sent people to kill. And you know what's funny? You asked, did he write for them?

He did. What kind of started his whole anger was he wrote a record with the Beach Boys drummer who ended up taking it and not giving him any pub or any credit so they broke apart like they was crew at their little ranch and after he didn't get his pub look what the music industry fucking does he left and started his own coat because the pub company and the artist fucked him over it's kind of the story of if so the Beach Boys led Charles Mason into killing people in my theory based off what they gave there yeah that was the turning point like they were still weird and on their hippie

shit at that ranch, but they weren't murdering people until his name wasn't in the Spotify credits. Got you. Okay. And if you think about it with these artists that end up being fucking psycho serial killers, if somebody would have just liked Hitler's paintings and gave him a gallery, the world would be different. Yeah. If Charlie Manson, if you just

would have credited him for the shit that he wrote, he has the demo. And it's one of those where the demos better than the regular. Yeah. He has it right there. If Sony would have just given him that pub, we'd be having a different story. There'd be plenty of people still alive. Damn. And it goes into theory of mind control and CIA, who already knew I was at the edge of my seat.

Yeah. I believe a little shit. The weird shit. So you're going to see a flip on your next album? I mean, I'm sure after his death, somebody bought the pup. I'm sure finally he got his credit. Insane. I was thinking about playing it, but I thought, like,

would we get flagged and who would flag it? Because that's sick if you own the Charlie Manson back catalog. We should do it just to see. And you're not white-laced thing so you can catch people on YouTube. Whoever owns that catalog is sick But yeah I suggest people watch that I'm back on my Netflix shit

Did you see the high school runner The girl who hit the girl in the head With the baton You used to want to crack And the first thing I thought was damn I never thought of that Why people can't just admit They was on some bullshit

Why this girl running around I told him that was an accident Running around Sitting on the couch crying Like why isn't anyone concerned about me Yeah like what is she talking about Like you, you got mad that girl was about to smoke you, beating your ass, and you had a moment where you just was like, fuck this and hit her in the head with the baton.

When I saw the first angle, I, I didn't not believe her, but I was like, all right, I guess sometimes on the turns, your body can't get a little fucked up. No, Lori. I saw the angle from behind. You wound up and went like this. That was not your running style. That was not a natural running style, running motion. That was not. Did that on purpose for sure.

She absolutely. That's some sick shit. That was done on purpose. And that's super dangerous. Like, you could have really injured that woman. Yeah. I don't know what batonah was. Like, in track from high school and college, the regular batons aren't really that crazy

at regular meets. But if you get to like a championship meet or, you know, something in indoor tracks that look like this, those shits are weapons. Like the pen relays baton that I have from when I ran there, that shit is a baseball bat. Like, they're very thick. Yeah. You can really, really. hurt someone with that. So yeah, that's, that's implicit. So she's not, has she, has she been

voted on charges yet? Yeah. Hasn't been like convicted or anything, but a assault and battery is what they're going to charge her for. But yeah, you can't just take a baton of someone's head. Well, what she said was that her arm got tangled up in the girls and when trying to like separate it, she kind of lost control of her body while, I do know that when you're running your fastest, you do kind of lose control. You, it's. It's very easy to control your equilibrium. I'm not saying she did it on purpose or not. This girl absolutely meant to hit that girl with that fucking baton.

That's not natural. That's a wind up and a swing through. I've been in every scenario of a real aid that you could think of. Championship meets where you're on the line with way, triple the amount of lanes that are there where people throwing elbows, everything. I've never seen one person in any scenario. I've been tangled up everything where you would reach back and hit somebody in the head. Like that it doesn't happen.

And you can tell the way she's running with it after. Like she's holding the arm. But now all of a sudden, your arm don't want to move forward. Because she held it after she hit it. She held it like this the rest of the way. Like, so she wasn't swinging it after that. So she understood what she did. She knows what she did.

She just had a moment and didn't, you know, lost sight of exactly where she was at and just her emotions got the best of it. It happens. She probably intentionally, but didn't intentionally. Like, I don't think she sought out in the middle of the race to do that. But like, no, at that moment. And realized what I've done. I've thrown elbows and shit that.

just because you get caught up with someone it's like, get the fuck off me. I didn't set out to do that. But yeah, I think she got tangled up and was like, fuck off me and did that. No, I agree. But you can't do. It might have got tangled up,

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Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the Michael Tutta Podcast Network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do we have voicemail? You've got mail. Hello, everyone, a long-time listener, first-time caller. I'm calling in to see if this situation ever happened to anyone. I met a girl on a dating app, and then when I went to go pick her up, she gave me this weird location. It was like a back alley when I was waiting for her. I was looking down on my phone and then she kind of just magically appeared by my front door.

We go to a restaurant in downtown L.A. The day was good when we were on the way back to her location. I was wondering like where did she come from? And I was like, oh, were you in like the apartments right there? She was like, nah. Were you in the condos across the street? She was like, nah. I was like, do you have roommates?

Then she was like, nah, which is kind of weird when she was saying all that. Then she was like, oh, I live in my van. The weird thing about it, she had a, she has like a dog too, a big poodle. She lived within said van. I was just wondering if that happened to anyone else. Sorry. That was not the ending I expected. Man down by the river

Sir, one thing I can promise you is that nobody can say that that happened to him. How are you going to call and ask Has that happened to anybody? No. He didn't ask. He didn't ask, he date her again.

Should he help her out? He said, has that happened to anybody? No, man. Should I have respected her circumstances and not be inviting inside? Yeah, like, he didn't ask her. You know, should I ask how she ended up sleeping in her van? Like, why she chose that?

No, that has never happened to anybody that I know. Yeah, and I'm not judging anyone that's to sleep in their car. But if you also are in a relationship and cheating while you live in a car with significant other, what the fuck? Where you got she? I thought she said also lives with her man in the van. She said a dog. Oh, I'm sorry.

I thought I heard with a man in the van. No. Okay. You thought that. Yeah. I thought that she was cheated. You thought that he dropped off to a car and like her man was in their sleep. Yes.

With the dog. What you're talking about? He's in the back seat. No, I really thought I heard that she had a man and they lived in that van together with the dog. That's what I thought I heard. I know a dude that lives in his van outside of a building, but like I think his family lives in the building. Okay. Because every day he goes in the building like with the family, like, but he sleeps in his truck.

He just hates his family. Well, there's probably not enough beds. But the best part of having a house. I can promise you. If it's not enough beds, my car is not the option. If this is my family. We're going to find a way

to make this shit happening here. Back to animal cruelty. So she locked the dog in the car during the date? You can't just leave. I think she was lying. I don't think she wanted you to know where she lived. That's fine on a first date.

That's fine. But saying you live in a van? Come on. Yeah, like not sarcastically. Like dead ass. Yeah, like he believes she lives in a van. Well, maybe it's a camper. Well, maybe it's a camper.

Either way, you can't leave your dad. dog in there by itself. I feel like you can leave a dog in a camper by itself. All you got to do is have airation in the camper and I feel like you have to have that anyway, no?

I just feel like that circumstance in the dog are more important than a date. That's just where I'm at with it. My sister left her dog in the car for 20 minutes. We went inside the store to order something,

came back and she had a note on window saying, hey, you shouldn't do this. I left it. The window was cracked. It wasn't hot outside. It was like fall, so it was like probably 50 degrees outside. Window cracked.

Like, we was in the store for 20 minutes. Come back as a note on the on the car. Like, you're not leaving no dog and no fucking camper for no date. That's not happening. But see, when I think a camper a camper is like a house, no? It's like a mini house.

Yeah. It's, the air is fine for you to leave the kid. You can't take the dog with you everywhere. So if you live in a camper, like if your dad went and got a dog and he has a camper like. Well, she can't take the dog everywhere. She's taking a house everywhere. Sorry.

the dog is like that's a carry on that ain't that's light yeah probably is bad and everything I guess that's not as bad but we he did say van you guys are giving this woman

a lot of credit by saying that ends up being a camper he's dating Scooby Doo he would have said camper no she probably lives in a minivan you can't leave a dog in a minivan to go on a date that's insane you can't leave it like

apparently can't leave a dog for 20 minutes to go to school course not that's crazy but the big the big the big minivans that people usually live in, like the old hippie Scooby-Doo minivans. I feel like if the dog has a bed in there and it has the proper airflow,

if you're living in there and it has the, like you're not suffocating, I feel like as long as it's not hot outside, your dog will be fine. Yeah, your dog will be fine. Yeah. All right. We're avoiding the real question here.

After you get that information, said the date went well. That was cool. Do you ask for the second date? Oh, yes. She lives on her car? If that goes along. This is a lay.

You don't want living the car pussy. Shit, that might be some of the best pussy you ever had in your life. Yeah. No wax. Yeah. In the car? Car sex is trash, though.

So after the second date, do you say, do you want to go back to your place or mine? She'll move in. She's going to park that motherfucker tie it up. That's why the sex is crazy. You ever had a chick try to fuck the keys out of you? That sex is crazy. She ain't got her where to live?

She's fucking for, like, a spot. Yeah. Yo. What? working. Oh my God. Well, did you give her the keys? To my, yeah, she had keys to my spot.

Fucking right. Took the parking spot from my apartment as well. Yeah, you could park up all that. What? The way she suck it. Do you crazy? Man, they none like a homeless suck. They ain't got no home? I agree.

You know, you know. Oh, I mean, you know. That's fucking I ever did was when I didn't have a friend. Either homeless or like roommates. If it's a girl that got a roommate, she want to move out. and you got a nice little condo and you single? Oh, she bought the Rock Your World. Or she doesn't have to go back to her parents' house that night?

Yeah, it's on. I ain't never had sleep in the carpas, you know. That's a little... It's never too late. It's never too late. Yeah, it's never too late. Especially in L.A. We could just go downtown.

Where did you wash up? And we're not homelessness shaming. I don't want people to think we're shaming being homeless. We're not homelessness shaming. Are y'all, so y'all are homeless and shame? No. No. I would never.

I would never go too hard time. I would never. I would never do. Nobody agree with me. To answer your question, I've known people that's left in their cars. They had gym memberships or they snuck into a gym and that's where they, that's where they cleaned up. I don't know about being. That's why I said maybe it was a camper because I feel like if you're down that bad where you're like homeless, I don't think you're thinking about dating.

So that's why I automatically thought camper. That's the sickest part of this entire thing. She was thinking about dating. She's thinking about dinner. Like how did she get ready to date? All right. I got to go. Did she use a rear view, like, to put her makeup on? She just wanted dinner that night. Y'all thought about the date.

She was like, y'all got to go eat. The date went well because it was based off starvation. Exactly. That's not funny. That's actually really sad. Maybe her van was parked on Skid Row. I mean, downtown. I think he would have mentioned that. Well, maybe he didn't. Where do you think he met her? Like, the fact that he left that part out is a little...

He said online. Yeah, but where online is what I'm saying? No, like it was a dating app. He said he met her off a dating app. That's even sicker. If it was some IG shit, cool, whatever. If you are still in a dating app and you live in your van, that's not shaming homeless. I'm just shaming you as a human being.

You have other priorities. The way women shame men, like, yo, if you don't have money, you shouldn't date. Like, I get that perspective. Because if the Rose was versed and she was dropping him off at his car to sleep in. Why are you on Tinder, sir? Yeah, she would have been asking about it.

But like you guys said, she probably needed a meal. So if I'm a pretty girl, I need a meal, go on Tinder. Somebody ain't going to buy it for me. If you line a date up for every. week, that's dinner. No, it's a good strategy. I'm not mad at it. Don't look at me like that.

I'm not doing it, but, you know. No, I was going to say something, but I don't want the internet to kill me. Not this week. I'll wait until next week for them to kill me. Just have Peach say it, and then we'll cut the clip and post it. I just feel like pretty girls ain't going to ever have to sleep in their car. That's not true. Not have to.

They might choose to. That's a choice. But if a pretty girl, it's a niggis somewhere that's like, you can sleep in the basement, the guest room. I'm like somebody. A lot of girls, a lot of girls don't always know how pretty they are. A lot of girls have been through a lot of trauma and weren't, are not, have not been bought up in the, I'm a baddie, so I should be treated like a baddie and I should treat myself

like a baddie. Some girls are just naturally pretty and had a really hard life and their looks are the last thing that they're worried about. They're not even aware that they're pretty. Their mother never told them they were pretty. They didn't have a father around. Like there's plenty of pretty girls who are upon hard times. No, no, hard times is one thing.

sleeping in your car is another thing. You can be on hard times and not be sleeping on your car. Well, if you were a pretty girl and you didn't want to sleep in your car and you had no family and no friends, what would you do? Right, Harry Potter.

I didn't want to... What's up with you, man? What? You don't know the story? Yes, but I'm just asking what's your problem. She took a situation. She made it a better one.

I get it. I just think that if you're a pretty girl... Superhead slept in her car. Again, I think it was a choice. I think it's a choice. I watched the podcast with Neil Brennan, and he asked that. Like, how did you look?

She's like, the best I ever looked. And Superhead was fine. Like, she was just sleeping in her car. Her priorities were a little different. But yeah, she's like, I'd go to parties and I'd just go sleep in my car. With her son, too. And I would say, kind of to what you're saying.

Like, why didn't you at that party? You're beautiful, just, I guess, a safety reason? I think y'all think being a woman works so much differently than it actually does. Probably. Yeah, I've never been a woman, so I can't tell you. Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't just, it's not encouraging women to just go sleep at strange men. I was going to say, you don't just go to the party and be like, hey guys, homeless.

Who can I go home with? That would work on TikTok. It just doesn't work like that. That's a TikTok challenge right there. Like, how do you enter? But I also just feel like if you homeless and sleeping in your car, you shouldn't be going to the club. That's just me.

Oh, I agree. Unless you're searching for somewhere to stay that. Yeah, like, that's just me. I just think that you shouldn't be at the club and you got to go. go sleep in a cord. But kind of to DeMaris's point, back to the Super Ed thing. She was escaping a terrible situation, I think, in like Arizona or something. So drove to California.

Yeah. And was getting on her feet and was sleeping in her car at the time. And saying she looked beautiful. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess it just takes. I think she was in an abusive relationship, if I'm not mistaken. Well, no, she ended up being a stripper underage in Arizona. She got away from her abusive mother in Florida.

Yeah, got to Arizona, was an underage stripper with her. boyfriend at the time's mom, who was a stripper there, then got out of that, got to California, and then met the God iced tea, and it was up from there. Ice tea saved everything. Y'all don't be feeling like some of that be their fault, though? Which part? Like, at some point, you don't start asking the questions, like, where are their friends? Like, you know what I mean?

Like, you don't have a friend that just would let you crash on their couch or... I mean, a lot of people in hard. horrible situations are in an environment of other horrible situations and their friends are in the same situation they are. In horrible situations too. That's actually why they're friends with them because they're all in shitty areas. Because her story in that pod was crazy. Like she definitely went through a lot in Florida. Like her mother was a piece of shit.

Yeah. I read her book when I was younger. Yeah. I could get people coming from, you know, families that are fucked up. But I just been feeling like, you know, when you said like I had to sleep in my car for like six months and I had to do this. And someone in the story, I'm like, yo, you didn't have like a friend or somebody that you could call? Like, and just be like, yo, listen, I'm fucked up right now. Like, I just don't, I mean, it's tough to understand because I, gratefully, I've never had to experience that.

But I just be like, somewhere long and a lot before, like, some people don't give us the whole story. Like, yo, but you must, like, what type of person are you for real, like to have no friends that will let you live with them while you get on your feet? Like, not even one friend. I know you don't like to hear the trauma therapy part of that. But a lot of people from abusive households and situations. feel like they're not enough or a burden on other people. So even if they have friends or family,

they're not about to ask them for something. Because they already feel like, that's why I said it's a choice. My own mother, father, whatever, did not want me. So what the fuck? I'm not going to ask somebody to take me in. Sleep in my car.

Even people who grew up in healthy. Yeah. Yeah, a choice. But to them it doesn't seem like a choice. Like it is a choice. Everything is a choice. But to them it might not seem like a choice. I don't know how I would feel about asking

one of my friends to stay at their house if I literally had nowhere to go. I might bite that bullet and be homeless too. No, you get the fuck. Demaris, shut up. No, I'm being... DeMaris, you would not bite the bullet and be homeless if it came down

to either ask one of my friends if I could crash at her house for a couple months or sleep in my car. You're not biting that bullet. You're not sleeping in no car, DeMaris. You're not doing that. If you know, you got options

like multiple friends with space and... That's not always an option. I'm saying if you have that option. But I'm not... But even if you do... Your ego is not going to say, yo, I'm not asking. I'm not sleeping in a car.

Technically, have that option. A lot of people are not comfortable asking for help, mom. I understand that. Help with, like, yo, I'm fucked up this much. Help me pay my rent. I'm talking about you have nowhere. It's your car. And that's it.

A lot of people will choose their car. It happens all the time. That is crazy. I'm walking up to my homie door. Clothes in hand, niggily. I'm not sleeping in no fucking car. I know where the keys at. Yeah, my homie got the crib.

cable kind of shit is warm in it. Some people are embarrassed. My pride ain't that. Nah, you crazy as fuck. People are. Nah, hell, nah. I'm knocking right on home you door, man. Watch out, nigga.

Move over. I suppose. And I'm using your products, nigga. It's this dove. Well, I mean, I've never heard of the Tinder strategy. So this is a new one. Shout out to Shorty. Yeah.

It's a good way to get a meal. I mean, I don't even know if this gentleman asks for, he just asks us if we've, that's ever happened to us. No, it's, it's never happened to us. So, I mean. If we had, we would talk about it. on this podcast you listen to. But you know, you sound like you had a great time, great night.

It may have happened to y'all and y'all don't know. Mm. Well, not me. Now that I'm thinking, it's, I've probably went on a date or messed with a chick that didn't have a home. It was like, no, no, no, no, no, either sleeping in a car or couch surfing. That's different. Are we talking about in a car?

Maybe. I've never dated a girl that I was living in her car. I've never dated a man I was living in his car because he had to come pick me up and and I didn't see, like, his belongings in the car. We're not doing that. Put everything in a tree and, look. looking the trunk. Like she ain't seen this.

That trunk was a mess. She ain't the sleeping bag, canteen. Stop, man. Why are you got? What are you saying? You really rambo? Like what did she do? Canteen.

Just get a bottle of water. Just get a bottle of water. A canteen. You got a drink. You got a thing. You're doing the gym membership thing. That's the only $15 you want to do. You can fill his canteen up.

Yo, having the canteen in the car is fucking crazy. Imagine I get your car row You got a canteen I'm like, yo, where are you going? Stay hydrated Take a A canteen

A lot of rest stops Oh my God But I guarantee y'all Fuck some homeless people And you don't know it I think that's more common Than we do Homeless or living in your car

Homeless is like What's better? No homeless is I'll take the car No homeless is I'm staying with somebody right now I'm living with my cousin, friend, whatever In the car homeless Like, how many girls who think you slept with that have had to sleep in the park in their lifetime? That's Rory's wayward, big ass.

You just got to let him rock. You know, who you think I'm dating? You were a teenager at one point. You don't always know every girl you deal with a home situation. I've never dated a girl that was sleeping in the park, Rory. Rory has that he just, he don't want to shit. That's what he looked for. He walked the park.

He's like, yo, so what's up? You come here often? And instead of helping be like, hey, come in the house I'll just sleep next to them We need this together. Yeah, we're always trying to make it Percy.

You've dated a girl. I've never dated a girl. I've dated a girl. Well, not dated a girl. You've never dated a girl that lived in a park, bro. They had not lived. You slept with a girl that lived in an abandoned house?

Not lived. I'm sure I've fucked with one that has slept in an abandoned house. Yo, what is wrong with you? I don't like. How did you? Where would you have? You think every kid has like a fucking

two-parent household and shit? Like some. What is he abandoned house? I'm talking about that building. I'm not saying she lived in the park, but I'm sure there was nights when she slept in a park before. That's not that fucking crazy. Why would she be?

You have friends that have slept in a park before. So like, how is it crazy that they don't have sex? What are you talking about? But they had sex with somebody. While they were living in a, sleeping in a park? Oh, I'm not saying it was happening currently.

I don't know. But I had did it before. Did it before is what I'm saying. Oh, okay. I thought he told me like, they just left his crib. No, I didn't fuck her. Say, yo, get out of my house and go back to the park.

I thought that's what I'm looking at him like, what are you saying? Okay, all right. Now, we had a miscommunication. I was so shocked that you were shocked at what I was saying. No, I've never like, fucked a chick in my house and I knew she was living in a park and I said, go back to the park. So that's what I'm never done that. So that's what I'm saying?

Yeah, you'd be wild for that. No, I've never done. I'm like, yo, so you just let her go back to the swings? Like, what's up with you like? What type of man are you? No, I've never done that. Okay, so that's what I miscommunications. No, I'm just talking about, like, women that would have been in bad situations,

especially when I was younger. I know a lot of girls And those were, you know, usually the girls that like me. Oh, that's different. That's different. That I'm sure had a few nights in some weird fucking place. Okay, that's different. We don't know everybody's situation.

But I thought you meant like you knew. Like she's leaving here and going back to the monkey bars. I didn't finish. We was laying there. She's like, all right, well. Yeah, I thought that's what you are. Do you have a spare blanket? It's cold out there tonight.

No, man. That's terrible. What type of animal do you think? You give them a go bag and just let her walk out? Like, you're crazy. Would your mom let a girl? Like if you got a girlfriend and like she ended up like being homeless, like would your mother let her move in? Absolutely.

My mom let at least three or four friends of mine in high school live with us at various times. Absolutely. My mom was that type of mom. Like she, she would have no problem. My man Isamu, he lived with us. He definitely like past the time limit my mom would allow. He was there for almost four or five months in the crib. Yeah.

Yeah, my mom was like a, he was a big Asian, not a small Asian. My mom didn't care. As long as we, everything was clean. she didn't care. Peach? Let's mark that. Wait. Wait.

Wait. Why didn't mark that? He was a big Asian. What does that mean? He said not as like a regular like small Asians. To have somebody in your living room for that long that's like not a small high school kid. He was a big, he was a big dude. You could have just like his presence.

But you said a big Asian because you said that's rare. Snig had Yao Ming sleeping in. No. Wide Yao Ming, not tall. Oh. He had Yokasuna. He had Yokasuna. Yeah, my mom didn't care.

As long as we kept the place clean, my mom didn't give a fuck. We just had to make sure everything was clean. That was it. But no, my mom would take anybody if they needed it for sure. Yeah, definitely. Do we have another voice, ma'am? My mom ain't want me there, much less nobody to fuck it. Okay.

I have a question for you beautiful, wonderful people. What is the wildest song that you guys would have sex to? whether you've done dirty or not. And the reason why I'm asking this is I was on the hub last night. And I couldn't comprehend mentally what I was he like, I wasn't ready for what I heard when I clicked on the video. I was expecting, you know, just this standard rigum roll. And come to find out when I click on a video,

all I hear is Andre 3000 giving a soliloquy on Life of the Party by Kanye West. Like, I just, it baffled me. So that's the reason why I come to you with this question. First of all, you're sick for calling it the hub. Like, that's a different level of porn cult. I assume he's talking about porn hub, right? Yes. I was on the hub.

That's sick. I mean, clearly I fucked to the sounds of crickets in a park. So who am I to judge? I don't know. I lost my virginity to a Lloyd Banks mixed tape. I think I'm kind of out of this entire thing. There's not a single song that would stop me from fucking if I wanted to. I don't even hear songs.

That's like porn, like, that's like the background of poor music is like Lloyd Banks. Like when you watch like hood porn, you'd be on the hub going like crazy like that. I don't. I don't like porn with music. But like when you click on like hub porn, it's always some bullshit like that. Oh, I don't know background. Not bullshit. Oh my God.

I'm sorry. Lloyd Banks. But like that type of shit. Internet got us all shook. You didn't say anything wrong. No, okay. Just making sure. I fuck on.

Oh, I haven't watched enough hood porn to like, that's not really. a thing that when I click it's going to be some mixtape rap shit happening. Or like the or the person who's in the porn is rapping like not while he's having sex but it's like his mixtape. I was like what porn are y'all watching? I've seen that before. That's a good rollout. Some some local music or like the dude from down the street like gave him a mixtape and he like you never heard local rap in porn before? I have. Speaking of didn't Lloyd Bank Snoop Dog and like Who kid start their own porn company where they would do like they weren't fucking but they were I could see that. It's a multi-billion-dollar business.

Why not? I don't know if it ever came. I remember that being a thing, though, that they were, like, starting a porn company where they would, young M.A. did that for a while. Oh, yeah, she was. She was doing that. I can see people getting into that. Yeah, I think that's a good rollout to just be rapping while people fucking.

Now, one dude had to, you know, I make the videos on the block with the microphone and all that. He was rapping, and then he opened up the moving truck and his man was in there, having sex with a girl. I just thought that his rollout was amazing. Did he put his license plate in the truck company and everything on that? I just thought that rollout was crazy. Made me want to download this whole project. I'm like, this dude is a visionary.

It's a creative genius. They just having sex right there in the moving truck while you in the middle of the street rapping. Okay. So what's up? Yeah. I don't know if I could think of the craziest one, too. The craziest one I would think,

it would be Marvin Sapp, take me to the king. But that's not what I had sex to. If I had to think of one to do it too, it would be that. But I already told you I have sex to I get money remix. So. The fuck you laughing at it. I mean, I don't know, once you've like Fucked a Law & Order SVU background

Like, is there a song that's going to stop you? There's nothing that's going to stop you. Every infomercial magic bullet. Yeah. You know how many times I've had sex to American Ninja Warrior being on the TV? I'm like, well, he's going to break the time. He's going to break the record. You're going against him.

Yeah, we're both in the motherfucking gauntlet right now. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, every situation of like, family in the other room, talking, you can hear everything. Like, yeah, life of the party's not stopping me. No. Matter of you, like, great choice. Yeah, I don't care what's playing.

What's his time, it's time. Are y'all easily distracted, like, in that way? During sex? Like sounds during sex? Yeah. Only when you think you hear somebody putting keys on her door. Yeah. That's the only sound.

That's the only sound that's going to be like, everything stops. Like, yo, that's... Hold on. You know, sometimes the apartments is too close to each other, so it's like, yo, your door sound. Yeah, it's your door. Or the other doorways. Yeah.

That's it. Yeah. But other than that, I mean, I'm locked in. I try to distract myself so I don't come too quick. But, you know, sounds wise. You do your ABC? You do you count? I've never done count.

I don't expect you to do anything literary. I just try to find shit like in the room to like lock in on. We'll be like, yeah, she need to paint the ceiling. Yeah. You need to really, you know what I'm saying? A nice white coat over that. And then it makes for good cuddle conversation afterwards. Like, I'm observing.

You're looking at the ceiling? Like, I was just trying not to net. I know somebody that could do all of this. Yeah, it's crown molding would be so easy. Crown molding. You could put a ceiling fan right here. This should be an axon wall, actually. I was thinking like...

You could steal a cable right from this side of the wall. That's where my mind be up. Oh, man. But, I mean, that's only when I'm in a house. Park-wise, it's definitely just looking out for pedestrians and shit. Tamara, you let niggas hit with their socks on? It's a weird thing to, like, observe. Are we on rug?

because you I got a lot of ass you can't hit with your socks on on hardwood you're gonna fall so

now you gotta have the socks with the little grippies on the bottom of where the fuck is he at like get air yeah get air

no yeah yeah that's why you still owe some the bouncy rooms you take those with you when you leave

you need those at the crib it's funny to Maris mentioned that because I got myself a pair of those

four catch air which is an indoor playground yeah and that was the first I thought

when I put them on the first time and went through my own hardwood floor. I was like, oh, he's just like shoes. Yeah. Need those on. This is like when the porn starts wear Tim.

Absolutely. Like, this has some. Yeah, it got some traction. Yeah. But that's sick. Like, to me, if you don't have a kid, that's like the girl that walks around with a bunch of condoms. You're like, yeah, that's kind of nuts that you walk around with that many condoms. If a dude just pulls out the grippy socks, like out the gate, out his draw, like, what do you be doing?

I'm going to think you just had those, like, ready next to you? You're bed. Well, back in the day, because that used to be a sign that you were mentally ill. We're in socks. No, the, no. The grippy saw. Oh, my Lord. Yo, we're, imagine that you got a socks.

He's like, yo, he's retarded. They ran out of helmets. Just because you got socks, though. Bark it. Yo, you see what the grippy socks? Yes. That was a sign of what? Mental illness?

Like you had got 30, what was it, 304 or what is it called? When they check you into the 550. Wait, just because I have grippy socks on? Because when you're in the mental institute, but the apron didn't get it away? When you're in the mental institute, they give you grippy socks. And you usually go home with them. So before the get air places and stuff like that

where grippy socks became a thing because people go to those. No, if a man had grippy socks just like, it's like, oh, you probably tried to kill yourself before. Like that's what that was. No, I'm trying to kill his pussy. That's what I'm trying to do. I ain't trying to kill myself. You got wood floors.

I'm trying to kill that pussy than that. Why are grippy socks not sold in, like, prisons? I'm wearing grippy socks in the shower, if that's the case. Like, if there's a fight, I need grippy socks on at all times in prison. You're still going to fall in the shower with grippy socks. Rory, the last thing you need to be worrying about in prison is wearing grippy socks in the shower. You don't think traction is important in prison? Yeah, I think a lot of things.

I'm not getting costly. I got the grippy socks on me. No, you could still. What Cole said? Yeah, all right. You can still get caught slipping with the grippy socks, though. In prison?

Absolutely. But I won't fall as quick. They're not worried about your feet. Yo, you're good? I'm just saying. I was talking about fights. Not that weird shit you talk about. Why don't you think you would be fighting the shower for your manhood?

No, it just was the time that the fight popped off. The first time we saw each other. It's butt-ass. I ain't got to fight nobody that bad, bro. He's barefoot. I ain't got that much beef. I got to fight you. Are you naked?

We ain't got that one. And we're in prison. We have nothing but time. Yeah, yeah. Let's just find another place. I'll catch you outside at wreck, but I'm not fighting you in the shower. Yeah, why that isn't like just a universal

unwritten prison law to me is insane. Yeah, like every year, guys, we have other places that we could do this. No, because that's the part. It's easiest to catch somebody slipping, no pun intended, in the shower. Till, till you slip and fall on your own shank. That'd be my clumsy ass. Like, I would fall in the shower and stab myself.

You're suicidal ass. Slip and fall on your own shank. Oh, man. Now with the grippy socks, though. Oh, speaking of sleeping... A's Slipped on the comments that he had the grips on. Speaking of sleeping in your cars, didn't the girl Dawn from, in Vogue, she came out and said she's, um... Oh, yeah.

She actually sleeps in her car. I saw that. And then there was people in the comments that I think obviously have worked real before I know her. And they were kind of speaking to, like, she's a bad person and she ruins relationships with everybody. Everybody that works with her has, you know, bad things to say about her. And I was just reading up on it, because I was kind of confused, like, in Vogue. Like, they got multi-platinum hit records and shit like that. And I know, obviously, you know, record deals are not, you know, always lucrative for artists.

And I do believe back in the day in Vogue had an interview where they said they only received, like, I think, two cents per album sold or something like that. Her ex-husband offered a job in the hospitality industry for her. And she didn't want it. I don't know if she took it or not, but he said, like, when he heard her say that, he just offered it. Oh, he just offered it. Yeah. Well, yeah, hopefully, you know. Husband?

Ex-husband? It would have to be her ex-husband, though. Her ex-husband, yeah. Okay. Yeah. He's remarried. Well, hopefully, you know, she gets back on her feet and send her prayers and, you know, blessings because, you know, you see people like that that you obviously, you know, listen to and support it at one point and they fall in hard times. Especially as a woman, sleeping in your car, traveling is a dangerous thing, so.

That's where my pride's kicking in, though. I'm going to continue sleeping that car if my ex-wife offers me a job. Yeah. Y'all ain't watch Soul Fool? I'm good. Not taking that.

Not taking that gig. Especially. And you remarried? Fuck that. I'm sleeping in that car. Pride. Yeah. Not like, I'm on board with you.

Y'all remember a soul fool when she, when Burr got her husband a job with her ex? How would y'all have handled that? The same way he did? That happened in them. You fucking this?

nigga. You ain't giving me no job for free. The fuck is this? What? We just went to dinner. That's all. We went to dinner. It's always dinner. With the diamond bracelet on, she was tripping. I thought Jill Scott was tripping and why did I get married to with the new husband? No, he has cancer. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a flying fuck, actually. He got money in the health insurance. The fuck you got to be here for. Yeah, she was tripping. And then got me the job. Yeah, I would have felt the same way. As a man

like, no. I'm sitting there. my first day at cop school and shit and they're like, yo, you came highly recommended and then say your ex-husband's name? Yeah, fucking Chris Dorn or everybody. Yeah, that soulful shit was different, only because he thought he got the job on his own.

Yeah. So did, what's his name and why did I get married to? Troy. Troy, yeah. Troy thought the same thing. Whole time fucking old chemo over there got it for him. Yeah, see, wouldn't be playing a dangerous game. Yeah, I would never play that game.

She was tripping in that. And granted, from the first movie, she turned into the abuser. The abuse turned into the abuser on that shit. That was nuts. Yeah, because if a woman, if a man did that to you, just his ex-girl got you your job? Imagine you find that out at your first day of work,

and you leave your first day after finally feeling like a man. You got back on your feet. You were forced to move from Colorado, Atlanta, because of your girl. You find that out. You go to confront dude at his house, because you know where he live. He's always lingering around my motherfucking family.

I know where you stay at. You knock on the door and your wife is in the apartment. And her excuse is, it's not what it looks like. He has cancer. Tyler Perry didn't write the real ending to that movie. Yeah. Yeah, there was definitely some DV somewhere. There was definitely some deviated.

The fuck. I ain't even playing them games. You can't play those games. You can't play them. That's a dangerous game to play. Tomorrow, new music. we are recording this on a Thursday. I'm going to say allegedly,

because we never know with Playboy Cardi, I Am Music is dropping at midnight. When you're listening to this, it is out now. I've seen a thousand different feature lists, all different, so I'm not even going to say any that are here. I'm going to give it a shot. Cardi?

Yeah. No, you're not, man. I am. I'm desperately trying to understand why he's, so popular. Because artists that I don't particularly care for, I get why they are popular. I understand it. I'm with you on that. This one I haven't quite figured out yet. And it's not in a hating way. I want to know what I'm missing because so many people like this. Yeah. I'm going to get into the music.

Well, try to get into it and see like what the with the crazes about. But the album is coming out. We knew that they wasn't going to drop the ball on this and let the, let the pre-orders go back to the customers. we knew that wasn't going to happen. Listen, I hope I'm wrong. I mean, I've sort of given Playboy Cardia chance, not really enough. Like, X, X, X, X, X, Tentazione. I didn't give him a fair shot

when he was alive when he passed. A bunch of people that I respect music opinions sent me his music. I was like, oh, I was wrong as fuck. This kid is so, so talented. Yeah. So, I don't know. I'm going to really sit with this Cardi album

and try to get it. He's one of the two artists that I tried to get into and listen to and understand and I just, I'm not there. Him, Playboy Cardi and Rod Wave. I at least, I can't understand. I get the Rod Wave just based off the writing and like a demographic that would be attached

to that type of emo writing. I get that. I mean, it shocked me that he was doing like arenas. I was like, oh, damn, I had his fan base fucked up. He's way more popular than I thought. That's what I'm saying. I had no idea. Yeah, I can see a lot of people.

people being attached to that type of stuff. But I don't know. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. I'm Daniel Alarcon. And this is my friend. He's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green.

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