New Rory & MAL - Episode 359 | Breeding Fetish

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

Mal comes in immediately demanding his flowers as he celebrates Chris Brown’s stadium tour (2:33). After a quick recap of the boys’ week with celebrity friends, the team gets into Anthony ...Edwards alleged lump sum child support payment (23:05). Who do we think is in the wrong in this situation? Speaking of stellar fathers, a man was arrested for leaving his children alone in mcdonalds for a job interview (53:45) (allegedly, more was revealed after this episode was taped). Adam22 came out with some transparency about how he has to descale his business, and we get into how the business of content is not as prosperous as the general public may think (1:06:59). Rubi Rose is making millions a year on Only Fans, and has Demaris considering being behind the scenes in the s*x industry (1:16:30). We also discuss Cory Booker’s speech (1:32:22), the difference between the Air Force and Navy (1:37:11), and the real reason why Crime Mob broke up (1:45:31)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down,
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Starting point is 00:00:35 A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it.
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Starting point is 00:01:18 with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the Away End with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man.
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Starting point is 00:02:19 The volume. Rory, do you believe men should receive flowers, and how often do you think men should receive flowers? Every day, I believe we should receive flowers. Every day. For everything we do for the world. Right. Constantly.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You don't see enough men receive flowers, right? So today I'm here to ask you. Are you giving me flowers? No, no. Is that what this was? Oh, man, thank you. I'll give you some flowers as well. I mean flowers to you, Rory.
Starting point is 00:02:47 You know, I don't mind giving you some flowers, my brother. Like a metaphor, are you really going to give me some flowers? I could buy your bouquet? You want me to order a bouquet for you having a house? Yeah, I've been told you guys, maybe you didn't think I was serious. One of my hobbies is arranging flowers. You like a hydrange? type of guy, like hydrangeas?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah, especially this time of year. Okay, yeah. So I'll get you a nice hydrangea, like, assortment different. Add some hydro in there too. Yeah, some, oh, definitely sitting that. You know, I can sit in that.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Those flowers, I know you have. Yeah, I can send that pack to me well, man. I went to go see somebody. They gave me $200 worth of product for free just off mall's name. I was like, God damn. Listen, man, you know you my guy. When it with the cash,
Starting point is 00:03:22 it was like, nah, no, no, no, he went more. I was like, damn. Your money's no good here, Roy. I made the call. You're good. your family. No worries about the money. Those were great flowers, so I thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:03:33 All right. Well, today I need my flowers, though. Okay. Because I meant to bring it up the other day when I saw you. I liked the Nokia video too. No, no, no. Great video. But that's not, that's, that's past saying.
Starting point is 00:03:43 We don't even have to talk about that. I'm here to receive my flowers about Chris Brown doing a stadium tour, which you said that he could never, ever do because his talent level doesn't go. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, that's crazy. I'm with exaggerating shit for content. No, no, hold on. Let me talk. You said his talent level wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It was subpar talent level. Chris Brown, for sure. He needed Little Baby to sell tickets. These are all of the things you say. And lo and behold, I think Chris heard you or heard us. Yes. And now he is here with the breezy bowl, Chris Brown, Stadium World Tour.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Peach. Round of applause for Chris Brown. Oh, absolutely. First of all, round of applause, absolutely. That is incredible to do stadiums for sure. Chris Brown featuring Summer Walker and Bryson Tiller. Yes. Because he needs Summer Walker and Bryson Tiller to sell tickets, yes.
Starting point is 00:04:35 No, not to sell tickets. And this is incredible. I don't even really remember exactly what I said with Chris Brown in stadiums, but probably what I say about most artists. You can't sell a stadium tour out by yourself. Oh, well, you said Cuevo was hotter. Well, I mean, Quavo wouldn't need Summer or Bryson. Well, he wouldn't get a stadium tour.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I could promise you that he wouldn't have a stadium tour either. But I am looking forward to this. I think this is going to be an incredible. incredible show. Chris Brown, obviously, is one of the greatest entertainers, performers, artists that we have to see him do a world tour in stadiums in Europe and here in North America. I'm definitely looking forward to that. I think we're going to have a long, what is it, summer, August, around that time, into summer August? Into September. But to note as well, to give Breezy more credit, Summer Walker is only for the North America shows. Okay. But after he did
Starting point is 00:05:27 the O2 for like a month. I mean, I think yes, I will happily say Chris Brown can do stadiums in Europe by himself for sure. When you do the O2 for a month, yeah, you can do this. But I mean, I'm happy for him. It takes a lot the same way I said, Jay-Z needs Beyonce to do stadiums.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Even this isn't a shot at anyone. Kendrick and Susan need each other. Selling stadiums is insane. That's a very, very, very difficult thing to do. And granted, I'm not saying that he needs summer per se, but you need some support. to even be on a tour where you would be the headliner for a stadium is insane.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Absolutely. And I love 20 years of CB. I'm sure that set is going to be crazy for how long he's been around. Yeah. But I think I want to catch one of those shows out in the UK. I would definitely pay for the one in Jersey. I forgot who was in here on Monday. Was it better?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Somebody was like, yeah, we were in touch with Chris Brown's team about maybe sitting down and doing like an interview at like a DC day. Just banter back and forth. I was like, I mean, Mall could probably take that one. You don't want to sit down to interview. It was definitely Benner. Benner sent me an offer about like, hey, can you, you know, I have some money, somebody has some money for you to do a TikTok to one of these songs just as promo
Starting point is 00:06:41 that they do with artists. And I was like, I think I'm going to sit that one out. Oh, it's for Chris Ryan. I think I'm going to sit that one out. We would have part two. Part two of Damaris dancing. I learned my lesson. I said, you know what I know I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:06:54 All money is not good money. Thank you so much for that offer. Even though I know you like Chris Brown, they would 1,000% take that shit out of... Yeah. Yeah. Go dancing to amigos. Why are you dancing to Breezy? I'm cool. I said, no, I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Thank you so much. That's funny. But I don't know. One day I'll have Sean dead that. I just have to test the waters. I don't think Chris Brown is mad at me. But the way that shit took off and then that had him in Cuevo going back and forth in IG comments, I just feel like some people don't remember what you said, just how it made them feel.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah. So Chris Brown may not even remember what the words were. But he just like, he said some bullshit. I can't remember what. He remembers that face. That face and those. He don't remember the words, but he remembers the face. That happens to me in this podcast,
Starting point is 00:07:34 I'm in media shit. I'll be out sometimes and I'll see someone that I don't have like a real relationship with to the point that I never stored what they actually said about me. There's just something in my brain. They said something. I can't remember what it is because I didn't care that much. I made a coo-o-list. I got like a coo-o-list in my notes in my phone.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah. People you got knocked their coofe off? Not knock their coofeel, but they're on a coo-list like, I don't fuck with you. Because sometimes you'll see. people can give them that and then you lead a functioned like wait i don't even fire gave him that i don't fuck with him uh we don't even have to go through this is there anyone on there that i would be surprised by surprise by no i don't think you'd be surprised by no okay i don't know sometimes
Starting point is 00:08:09 we'd be having private beef we don't tell people no no beef i don't have beef for nobody but i'm just you know there's certain people that i would never shake hands would it never say what's up to but it's not beef should you keep your beefs like mysterious yeah you should keep your beef like in a crock pot yeah on low let it simmer you know i mean you If people smell it, they smell it. If I, like, actually have real beef with somebody, no, I'm not going to talk about it. No.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I mean, they'll probably know because beef doesn't just come out of nowhere. They know they did some bullshit. You can't talk about beef you have because when it's time to cook that beef, you don't, you know what? For shit, that's not serious. Yeah, you talk about that shit on the internet. Yeah. No, the real ones.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I forgot what episode. I think we had just gotten here and you asked, when you guys asked, asked if there was ever real beef with somebody that you would put hands on. And I said at this point in my life, there's only two people, and you guys have no idea who they are. So, yeah. Those he just keep to the side. Yeah, it's probably two for me, but...
Starting point is 00:09:00 The world knows. Yo, can we relax? The world knows. We're three minutes in a place. Yeah, not the world, no. I'm just saying, you know, just letting people know that the world knows. That's all. I will say, though, the three Chris, Summer and Bryson, like, that's a show you, you show up on time.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Like, one of the doors. Yeah. Everyone from all three of these fan bases are going to come together. This is going to be one of the best R&B shows, probably of the last however we. It makes a lot of sense to have Bryson with his catalog and obviously the songs that he has. We saw when he was out, he was in New York. Was he at Brooklyn? Was it Brooklyn Steel?
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah. And I told you when some of the clips came out and I was like, damn, like he's performing a joint. He's a lot of his first album. And I mean, everybody had their phones out. Everybody was standing only probably. I was like, the fact that Bryson can still perform his first album, he still get the reaction that he gets from his fan. is incredible. So seeing him on the breezy bowl tour makes sense. And then also, if you ever seen Summer Walker live, y'all tease me about going to Toronto to see her show. But her first
Starting point is 00:10:06 album, to me, to me, that'll go crazy in the stadium. Trap Soul will go crazy in a stadium. And again, it's the 20-year anniversary of CB. So it'll be younger, but also an adult crowd as well that was in their 20s for Trap So or came up on summer. Like, this is going to be a show. No, I'm looking forward to this. I'm definitely looking forward to this show. Obviously, we know Chris Brown. Chris Brown seems like he's always on tour or on a stage. Very seldom do you not see Chris Brown performance somewhere. So I think this is probably going to be his most memorable, most special tour
Starting point is 00:10:38 because obviously it's a stadium tour in Europe and in North America. So I don't think we've seen, have we seen anybody from R&B do this? Ever? A stadium tour? Depends what I guess what you would call R&B. Pop is what we've seen. Yeah. I mean.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But Chris has pop too, though. He's definitely pop. So, I mean, we've seen it, but not, this is very R&B focused in a time when R&B is not selling very well. Have we seen a black pop artist? No. We've seen the Backstreet Boys in sync. We've seen, you know. Has Usher ever done stadiums or just arenas?
Starting point is 00:11:08 I mean, he's performed. I don't think he's ever done a stadium tour. Yeah. But, you know, Usher obviously can do a stadium tour as well. Beyonce, but again, more pop. Yeah, this is a big thing. This is a special thing, man. I'd rather give Chris the flowers than you, but yes, I mean, I will stand corrected.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Well, give me the flowers as, it's. In gassing some of my words, yes, I'll stand corrected. But, I mean, we can reach out to justice. If you want to go to Toronto to see summer again, just like for tradition, then we can ride on the bus to Montreal with them, then from Boston. Actually, no, we could start in Jersey. Jersey, Philly, Toronto? Your passport good.
Starting point is 00:11:41 On summer's tour? Yeah. Okay. We'll get a bunk. We'll just switch. No. No, sleep together. Tour bus days is over for me.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Sleeping together on a tour bus bunk? Yeah, that's just not happening. I'm definitely looking forward to the show. I think it's going to be special. And, you know, I'm pretty sure that all of these stadium shows will sell out. I hope he performs the entire self-title album. Like, being that it's 20 years. Like, we just need that top to bottom.
Starting point is 00:12:08 That's still my favorite. I don't think he'll do the entire album. I need a whole one. I think he's going to do probably pick a handful from each project. Again, the show that he has together now probably add some more songs to that. I think obviously stadiums tour the production has to be bigger. I think that's going to be the biggest change we'll see. And then also adding, you know, different songs to the set list.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But the biggest difference from any Chris Brown show will be, obviously, the production to match the sides of a stadium. I mean, shit. He owes the IRS some shit. I get why he launched this. They're going to keep the overhead, probably. We know Chris Brown knows how to put on a show, but I don't know. Instead of 20 dancers, it might be 10. A little less smoke, a little less.
Starting point is 00:12:53 He's going to need more. No. You got to fill that. stage, man. He can fill the stage. I'm saying the overhead for production is going to be a little lower. Like, you may just get fire on the first part of the set. And then he's just going to do backflips to fill in the top. I think he's going all out. I think this is, this is going to be a special thing, man. So I think this is this is going to be Chris Brown on obviously the biggest stages that we've ever seen. And I mean, just perfect timing with the summer as well. Like to do stadiums.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Makes sense. Yeah, this is one of those I'll buy tickets for. And maybe in another city. I don't know if I'm going to go full Europe like mall, but I don't know, Atlanta might be a lot of fun. I just said the London show. You said full Europe. Well, you're there already. And Europe's like the size of a strip mall. So you might as well just go for the circuit. Just London.
Starting point is 00:13:37 You wouldn't want to do Atlanta? Stadium in Atlanta. Yeah. That just sounds like a. I saw the Donda show there. Sounds like a lot. Yeah, it's just a lot, man. Getting in the stadium, getting out the stadium, out the party.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's just a lot. No, that's actually a good stadium as far. as like where it is in the city, you can like stay at the hotel and walk to that shit. It's not like East Rutherford where you're in the middle fucking nowhere. That stadium is like downtown Atlanta. Yeah, no, no, I don't know it is, but I can walk to that shit. Yeah, I don't know. Just London and that's it.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Y'all can have North America. I mean, what if LVRN has the box and like? They'll have a box in London. Oh, no, well, someone won't be there. She won't be in London. Exactly. So you can't miss summer. I'll hit Chris.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Don't worry about it. Yo, am I allowed to tell the other R&B songstress story from this week? I was a little a little shock by Mall's game over this week. Okay. Dare I say, you were not pussy,
Starting point is 00:14:33 but it was an act of pussyness. It didn't embody who you were, but just that move with the setup, I mean, I thought you really loved her. Now I'm starting to question your love for this woman for God knows how many years. Since the beginning of time. You've been through ups and downs with her.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You defended her when it wasn't cool to defend her. Absolutely. We had one of, all's crushes and favorite R&B singers in our studio on Tuesday night, went to dinner with her, listened to her new project at the office and on my way to dinner, I'm like, oh, Mom, I'm linking up with her for dinner. Like, you want to come through? And he was like, oh, nah, you know, I'm getting my wheelbarrel fixed. Or like, you know, one of those weird excuses that he has. I was at Whole Foods. It was grocery shopping. I was like, no, but there's food here.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Then I said, oh, we're actually going to go to the studio after to go listen to the project. You want to come to, like, the office. Right. And then I think there was no answer at that point. Well, that's not exactly how it went. You said, I'm with Sabrina and I forgot what I said. Something funny. I was like, oh, tell her.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Well, I said tell I love her. Can I read it? Edmund, Claudio? Yeah. Oh. I was like, tell her I love her and I can't see myself in the world without her, even though I've been in the world mad years without her. Yeah, tell her I love her and I can't see myself in a world without her.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Gangster. Which she said I'm single, and mall still didn't come. That's how you got to do it sometimes. You sing a word? All right, be that. You can't play hard to get when you never got. It wasn't playing hard to get. You've been playing hard to get for five years.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Nah, I love Sabrina Cloy. I think she's talented. She's beautiful. Really good person, too. If I wasn't busy, I definitely would have came through to listen to the project. And just to meet her, obviously, you know, been supporting her for a lot of years and listening to her music. So shout out to Sabrina Clodio. She's dropping something new?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Soon. And we'll have her on the pod. as well next time they're back here and when they actually put the music out but it sounded great sounded really really good i'm excited brina's dope man she's uh i haven't i don't think i've seen her live yet though okay i saw her at um radio city and that's when i was like oh this is what canceled yeah and then when we saw daniel caesar at the scotia banker ran there we said the same thing like oh he's canceled everyone that's cancelers selling tickets exactly a bunch of stupid shit um well yeah that was that was pretty much it this week um damaris you're outside well no you were outside
Starting point is 00:16:48 past weekend i'm sure demaris has always house house house house house i'm sure you slept this whole I am like quite literally never outside. They just made that up. I've been home. I've been editing. I lost a memory card. I'm not in the greatest of moods. I got you.
Starting point is 00:17:00 How did you lose a memory card? Because I took it out here and I dropped it somewhere and it's tiny. But it has all cooking content. And cooking content like you change angles 15 fucking time. It's the hardest content to film. Like it was just me sitting up there talking about absolutely nothing. I wouldn't care. But that was difficult.
Starting point is 00:17:15 We didn't have the cleaning people in here. That was got to be somewhere in here, no? It's literally this big. We could have swept it up. anything could have happened. I don't think anything... Well, one thing I could promise you is that we don't sweep. So wherever you dropped it at, it's still there.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Cleaning this place before Amar's birthday was hell. That was the setup. Like, we really need cleaning people in here weekly. Well, they came in and they did a good job while we were going. So thank you for that. But also this week, we just did an interview for Don't Know Ball with Victor Cruz. Yeah, shout out. I got Victor Cruz.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Don't Know Ball out now. He finally addressed the Miami Boat situation, which was fun to get to the bottom of. Talk some Eli Manning shit, some Odell shit. Jay Z Rock Nation stuff. It was just a cool conversation. I just like Vic as a person. Outside of him being a legend for the Giants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Vic is one of the few football players that kind of like ruin the stereotype that I have. That Puerto Riggans can't play football? Well, that too. But, you know, just how they are overly aggressive when they're hanging out party. Oh, that's not him at all, though. But no, but Vic, at least he agreed with what I said. He was like, oh, no, you're absolutely. absolutely 1,000% correct. But anytime you see Vic out, he beats all the stereotypes of football
Starting point is 00:18:25 plays. It's very cool, very laid back, very chill, just a great all-around person. And it's always nothing but respect and love anytime we see each other. So shout out to Victor Cruz for Don't Know Ball available now. Check that out. Ma, I'm here to talk to you and all of the artists out there about our guys over at Distro Kid. Distro Kid makes music distribution super easy and they never take a cut of your royal which to me is probably the most important thing, especially for the up-and-coming artists. It's the easiest way to get your music into all the streaming services and stores like Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, as well as social platforms like TikTok and Instagram.
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Starting point is 00:20:53 podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
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Starting point is 00:24:24 Already a legend in two games. Oh my God, on and off the court. I mean, what are we talking about here, man? Shout out to Anthony Edwards. He's been going through a child support situation over his, one of his, because I'm hearing out of he has two more in the way. He has three kids by three different baby mothers or four kids by, and let me start with this.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Condoms, either that or a vasectomy. You might want to look into a vasectomy, and I understand that you probably are, you know, have a wide array. of options now that you are an NBA superstar, you're an Adidas superstar, you're probably going to make close to a billion dollars before your playing career is over. But you don't want to look up and look back and, you know, just made a bunch of kids with a bunch of women that you really didn't love or care about and have, you know. We've seen the leaked text messages.
Starting point is 00:25:15 He loves all of them. Yeah, but he, you know what I mean? Like just takes all of them seriously. Listen, man, if you don't want to wear condom, I know a lot of my homies that, you know, play ball, they play professional sports. a few of them have gotten a vasectomy. Just get the, just get the, you know, get the nip and tuck, man. And then you can reverse it when you ready.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah. When you ready to have some kids, you can turn the faucet back on. But yeah, man, you might want to look into getting a vasectomy, man, because I get it. You got all this money, but you don't want to just be cashing out $1.8 million for every, you know, woman that you have a baby with. It's just, you know, just that energy and that calm is just a little nasty. I'm just, but what a move. I feel like there's fathers around the world that are wondering, I didn't know I could do that. look up Anthony Edwards contract now. How many more years does he have left on his contract?
Starting point is 00:25:57 I mean, it doesn't matter. They're going to keep reing him up. And the way he's been playing, obviously, he's going to be more and more money, which would increase your child support based off your income. If this contract's up and he already had the 1.8, she has no entitlement to the re-up, right? No, it's over. 1.8 will cover 18 years of... Signed five years. Right now he's on a 5-year, $245 million contract. He'll probably double that on the re-up. What a fucking move. So yeah, man, but you know, you just don't want to just have a bunch of kids just because you have money to pay women all for 18 years. Like, you don't, that's just, you know, you don't
Starting point is 00:26:34 want that type of shit. What if he has a breeding fetish? I found out that's a thing. Oh, man. I mean, that's a whole other conversation he needs to have. If he has a breeding fetish, that's a thing. No, I know. I realize this thing. I don't think that that's our thing. I think that's y'all people's thing. I think that's white people's shit. Can I introduce you to Nicholas Cannon? But is that a breeding thing? fetish though, you think? Yes. What do you think? I think, well, me personally, I think Nick was going through some health shit and I think that he probably felt like, you know, he was probably not going to have many more
Starting point is 00:27:02 years of good health or life. And I think that he wanted to just have a legacy and have a bunch of kids. I don't think it's a breeding fetish though. Wayne has pretty much admitted to having one, but again, that was at the time when he was on a lot of drugs during that interview. But he had said that he thinks the best gift that you can give a woman is a child. And he was buying chicks bags, all that. It wasn't fulfilling him at all. So he was like, I'm just going to give these bitches babies. Yeah, that's weird. That's a breeding fetish. Yeah, it's still weird. I don't care what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It's a weird thing to have. It's a strong attraction to the idea of getting or getting or getting someone else pregnant. Frequently, this fetish involves a person with a penis ejaculating into someone's uterus, breeding them. People with breeding fetish generally enjoy the risky feeling of potentially permanent consequence from a sexual act. I like listening to them dance around words so they don't like insult like anybody who might not identify with a certain gender. Like, you read that again from the top? Just this part. People with a breeding fetish
Starting point is 00:27:58 generally enjoy the risky, in quotations, risky feeling of potentially permanent consequence from a sexual act. Permanent consequence. Yeah. All right, so just, I mean, go to an AIDS convention and just go nuts then. Okay, don't do that. No, please don't want to do that. That's a risky, permanent consequence of a sexual act, no?
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, but we don't want to, you know, that's just... Let's not do that. They may also enjoy a feeling of power exchange where one partner is submitting to the other. That's not really sub. There's other like Dom shit you could do. Yeah, like go by a collar and put it on around her neck and choke her with it or something. Like, I don't know. And then you become the sub after child
Starting point is 00:28:31 support. I was about to say. Yeah. That's the Dom fetish right there. She says nut and me daddy and you really do it and get trapped for 18 years. Who was really the one in power at that point? For some breeding fetish may be more about role play and fantasy and partners engaging in it
Starting point is 00:28:47 will get pregnant. But I mean, that's like, You could get a plan B. You could play out your fantasies, do all that shit. But like, there's other ways to not keep it permanent. Yeah, birth control on both parts. But there's a bigger conversation because, you know, I've seen a lot of people joining in on the conversation after, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:07 if this is true or not. I think the mother came out and spoke. But it is a conversation to have, you know, especially with men who are better off, obviously making a lot of money, the 1% of men in the world that make this type of money. There is a conversation to have of, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:28 if you have this conversation with somebody while you're having sex and he lets you know, like, listen, I don't want to have a baby. Yeah, but that ruins the mood. But let's have the conversation. I don't want to have a child. You know, obviously, you don't have to fully ejaculate inside a woman before to get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It can be pre-come, whatever, that a woman gets pregnant from. But there is a conversation to have if, you know, your partner, your sexual partner, says, hey, listen, if you know, I don't want a kid, if you get pregnant, you know, my choice is to not have the kid. I don't want to have a child with you. And in that moment, if, you know, we're not in the bedroom with these consent and adults, but in that moment, if the woman is like, yeah, no, I'm not trying to have no baby with you. I don't want to
Starting point is 00:30:05 record it and make her sign paperwork. I mean, but do you have to go to those lengths, though? Should you have to go to those lines? Here's safety advice and special considerations. Fantasizing about your breeding fetish while masturbating is a common and safe way for people to enjoy it on their own. When a breeding fetish is with a partner, it's just about fantasy that can also be safe reading role play can range from talking about the fetish during sex to actively acting out a scene when it is more than role play however that bitch is going to get pregnant hmm which is significantly risky hmm people have scds as well so you should look out for that yeah i just say get a vasectomy man get it get it get it snipped
Starting point is 00:30:42 turn the faucet off you still you still come you still get the sensation everything which you just the sperm it just don't work it ain't swimming if if if If you're his coach, do you have that conversation or do you kind of let personal lives be personal lives? Absolutely. I mean, well. It's starting to affect some way because it's always a leaked text message. Like it's always some- Not necessarily his coach, but somebody in his camp, in his corner. I don't know his family's dynamic.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I don't know if he has any older brothers or uncles or any, you know, other men that he looks up to for advice. Well, this type of advice in particular. But these are the conversations that you need to have with those men that are in your life that you respect and that you, you know, you look to for those type of moments. because, again, you know, Anthony Edwards has financially said, his family's financially said, his kids will be, you know, okay, for the most part, for a very long time. But, again, you don't want to just have random babies with, you know, women that you just had an attraction to for a couple weeks, and now you have this life that you created.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And just because you have access to all of this money, you feel like, okay, well, I'll just give her 18 years. We're for child support right now. We don't have to go to court forward. take this $1.8, $2 million. Don't ask me for nothing else. Like, I get that part of it. It's not no burden on you.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But it's just we don't need because then what happens is the kids become adults and they have this resentment and they have this energy for you. And then you have, you know, people that just have this trauma knowing that they came from a situation where father didn't really want them. Mom might have quote unquote trapped my dad and, you know, my dad didn't really wasn't ready for a baby. Now you have to have more therapy sessions. and things like that. It just breeds a lot of, you know, things in the future that's just not healthy and doesn't make for a healthy family and a healthy dynamic between father and child. So, you know, if Anthony Edwards, listen, get that go get that little, little snip, snip, man,
Starting point is 00:32:33 and didn't have your fun. Do what you want to do. Well, I mean, thank God because I was up all night thinking about this situation. Aisha Howard finally broke her silence on whether she's a gold digger or not, because obviously she has a child with little baby as well. And now one with Anthony Edwards. I mean, I was tossing and turning, waiting for. some type of communication from her.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And basically she's just saying y'all hoes is broke. Well, yeah, she said that in so many words. She said that, you know, when women decide to have babies with broke guys, do, you know, people say, oh, you have a broke guy fetish or, you know, you can just. I mean, no, she's cooking. No, she's not cooking. She's stealing money.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Like, that's what she's doing. She brings up a good point because everyone's calling her a gold digger, whatever. She's like, yes, I have a baby by a very successful rapper. Now I have a baby by a very successful athlete. She's not the first chick to have two baby fathers in the world. Definitely not the first and won't be the last. She said, what if I came to y'all pages, right?
Starting point is 00:33:24 I was at the edge of my seat. Once she said the right, because we all were like, right? And compared the men that you have children with to the men that I have children with. And I said, you were digging for poverty, bitch. When you picked him to be your baby daddy, weren't you? And I was at the edge of my seat. I was like, yeah. Or you kept that baby for an extra income tax credit, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Spitting. She wasn't finished. Howard claimed critics secretly wish they were in her position but can't because they don't have the same opportunities. How are you going to tell me what you would have done in my situation when you had a baby from your weed man? She really said that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:02 TMZ.com. I'm crying. She included in her almost eight-minute video by praying for mothers who recently gave birth and expressed sympathy for those dealing with mean and ignorant people on social media. The internet showed me no grace while I was pregnant. it y'all showed me no grace y'all have money for weed that you must have been digging for poverty is fucking hysterical i'm sorry i mean she made some points she made some points but up again you know it's the i'm the adults of the adults why however however she chose to have this kid is her business
Starting point is 00:34:40 she has that right i'm thinking about the kids once they get to an age where they now understand the dynamic between mom and dad and what happened and things like that. Like, it's just going to breed future resentment and terrible dynamics and energy between mother, father, and child. I mean, but is it like, this isn't that crazy of a story to me with the little baby and Anthony Edwards thing. Like, Michelet has children with Dr. Dre and Shugnight. Nause's baby mother said that she had a miscarriage from Jay-Z. There could be a chance there would have been a child that their siblings, would not have been a dad and Jay-Z would have been a dad. This is very fucking common.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Did y'all want her to go get pregnant by like a fucking Greyhound bus driver? Like she has, but one baby father got money. She dates in that circle. That's her circle. I don't understand why people are making her. And respectfully, I don't mean to put this on her jacket, hypothetically. She's probably slept with other people besides those two men that were successful and didn't have a child with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. Yeah. But the thing that people are pointing to is the fact that they're saying that Anthony Edwards basically told her that he didn't want to have a baby. He's been very clear about that from the gate. But the weed man says that too. And she kept the baby and she decided to have the baby. So, you know, Anthony was just saying, well, I know what this is about. This is money.
Starting point is 00:35:55 She's about money. She went, okay, so here, take this 18 years of child support right now here today. We don't have to drag this out. This is about money. So now you're having kids based on financial exchanges. But monetary gain. Nobody's proven that, though, because what if she don't believe in abortions? What if she don't believe in abortions?
Starting point is 00:36:12 What if she doesn't believe in abortions? That's fine. She can not believe in abortions. But I'm saying if her and Anthony, I'm saying if they had this conversation of he wasn't, he didn't want a child with her. He wasn't, he didn't want to have it. If they had that conversation, then, yeah, I feel like she, it is a money play at that point.
Starting point is 00:36:27 If somebody is telling you, I don't, I'm not trying to get you pregnant. I don't want to have a baby with you. And then, okay, yeah, we are adults. And then you slip up and get pregnant and you don't believe in abortions. However it happened, whether he did come at her, whether it was pre, you know how things happened. We've heard all the stories. We've heard all the stories.
Starting point is 00:36:42 However it happened, what I'm saying is, Anthony, Edwards this move of here take this money now and don't ask me for nothing else this is it is speaking to the the the story of him saying he didn't want to have a baby oh yeah for sure that's what I'm saying that his actions are speaking to him actually having that conversation before she got pregnant that I'm not trying to have a baby like you know what I mean so the real hero here is who is Anthony Edwards lawyer yeah I know oh shocker Harvey Steinberg um Harvey Steinberg what go ahead I could have guessed, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 The fact that forget the $1.8 million payout shit, which we don't even know is true, by the way. I feel like it was some random account that said this, and we all ran with it. So this could be false. Yeah. How did number one Harvey get it to $5,000 a month and then add the option of paying it all at once?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Well, you can... $5,000 a month is low. Mm-hmm. I feel like I'd pay more than that. Mm-hmm. How the fuck did it get to $5K? Well, I mean, again, Lawyers, you know, great lawyers can make things happen.
Starting point is 00:37:48 They can make numbers disappear and things like that. But me having, you know, friends that are athletes and make a lot of money that were in the same situation of child support. Oh, you can definitely pay the 18 years right now if you want to. Yeah. If you decide to drop one point, whatever million right now today, oh, that option is there for you. And somebody who's making, what, 60 million a year almost? Yeah. Take this little 1.8 and leave me alone, lady.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I mean, yeah, I'm trying to think, because we've always had these questions of, like, with the lottery, and I've seen, like, Mark Cuban talk about it, like what you should do in that situation? Take the lump sum or take the monthly payout shit. In that case, 5K, and I'm sure there's some type of tax on child support
Starting point is 00:38:35 and need some type of receipts, I'd probably just take the 1.8 out the gate instead of 5K a month for it. Of course you would. I mean, but if it's going to fluctuate and I can change it when he gets a new contract. Maybe I'm doing that, but for 5K. Lock me in for the 18 years.
Starting point is 00:38:48 5K a month? At 1.8. Lock me in. Take it. Yeah. Because I know what Adidas and Minnesota is talking about on my re-up. You ain't getting none of that. If it's getting to 5K a month from Dr. Steinberg here,
Starting point is 00:39:03 yeah, I'm taking it out the gate because it should be higher than 5K a month, which I would take the monthly shit for the rest of the 18 years. But not at that. Just give me the 1.8. She should go invest that shit and then just, take out her capital gains every quarter. For what? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Why should she go invest it? Well, TMZ says she's a brand owner. Yeah, why wouldn't she invest? You get a lump sum of money. You don't let it sit in your bank account. You put it into something. Yeah, that she's got to move. That shit don't matter.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Not to her. I mean, if that run out, you know what, you know what time it is? Sibling number what? I'm not putting that on her because I don't know her and I don't know. I'm not saying her. I'm just saying to general. That's what women would think about.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Okay. I again don't want to start pocket watch people getting their personal business but I'm going to anyways how do we think little baby felt when he read on TMZ I don't think he cared that that Harvey Steinberg got that shit to 5k a month I can guarantee you little baby pays more than 5 fucking K for I don't know that I don't know what he pays I don't know what his child support situation looks like but I don't think he care about he's I think he's so far removed from any emotions with he was looking right his phone was like gang I know he said gang gang that was his reaction to be that was his reaction to
Starting point is 00:40:12 in the headline. Do you guys think that he is a shitty person for paying up front and still wanting nothing to do with his child? Nope. Wait, why does that mean you want nothing to do with your child? No, he wants nothing to do with this child. Do we know that for a fact? He wants nothing to do with this. We don't know any of this far fact. Yeah, so. I don't think... I'm on the side of Aunt Edwards don't want nothing to do with this baby. I'm on that side. I don't
Starting point is 00:40:34 know if it's true or not. We're just guessing. I'm on that side. All right. Well, I'm saying that paying out the lump sum out the gate doesn't mean you're not going to see your child, that's a complete business decision between you and the person that you got pregnant. That's a juvenile. It's nothing to do with seeing them or custody. Like, that shit is just child support. The kid has nothing to do with that. A lot of times women take that money and spend most of it on themselves and not on the baby. Part of child support is being there as well too. And within custody, yes. If they have full custody, then you have to pay child support or even joint custody to some degree you have to. But that doesn't mean he doesn't want to see his kid if he pays up front. It's not like he has to pay to
Starting point is 00:41:11 see his child per month. No, I'm not saying. And if he pays a lump sum, then he doesn't have to see his kid. You're right in what you're saying. I'm not saying that it means that. I'm saying I'm on the side of believing that that is exactly why he paid this 1.8. You never have to contact me. Because he wants nothing to do with her or the baby.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And that's where I'm saying it's a problem. You have the money. Then money is not an option in his household. That's not a problem. But again, you know, it's just that energy and then, you know, the child being of age one day to know the story of who his dad is. and what happened. It just, you know, makes the dynamic a little difficult from father and child. Can he even do that from a PR standpoint? After everything he's gone through in the last two years
Starting point is 00:41:51 as far as baby mother shit and PR shit, is the media even going to allow him to not see his kid? He's one of the people I feel like you have to post your child at that point. No, I think he can do it. Listen, if you don't want a kid with somebody and they end up pregnant, you should have that writer if you want to be in their life or not. All right. What happens when Aisha is her name? What happens when she finds her Russell Wilson? Anthony got double back? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That's my kid now. I don't think Anthony Edwards cared. I'm just on that side, man. And the funny shit about this is I had this conversation with somebody who was in the same situation, a friend of mine, a basketball player. And he had went through some shit, you know, similar to not this situation, but child support. And I made the statement. I'm like, man, Anthony Edwards don't care about no, you don't want no kids, man. You don't care about it.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I'm like, these young rich dudes, they don't care about. these kids, man, they just out here dating the girls that they had crushes on five years ago when they was in high school. Now they finally got access to these women. They're dating these women. And these women know it. We've seen, you know, when everybody killed Drea about her last, her recent relationship and her child's father and how young he is in comparison to her people killed Dre about
Starting point is 00:43:01 that and said, you know, that's predatory behavior. And it's that and the third. Call it what it is. We know what it is. But I just think that, you know, people do what they want to do. And, you know, when they put it on social media, It obviously becomes public business and public information, so everybody chimes in and talks on it. But let's not sit in and act like we don't know what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Like a lot of these women are not out here trying to get a lottery ticket and not have to work and be taking care for and laid it up. You know, girls, the favorite thing to do is Pilates and Lattees. That's what they want to do every day all day. And design swimwear that's already designed. Yeah. So, I mean, listen, if this is having a baby, you know, some of these women might actually want to have kids, which is beautiful, have a child.
Starting point is 00:43:39 But I just think having it under circumstances where both parents, this is what they want and this is what they're trying to have, you know, a family. I think that's more important than saying, oh, well, I have the money to support her for 18, the next 18 years right now today here, take this money, leave me alone. I just think, yeah, obviously, okay, cool. Financially you're set. But it's just the family dynamic is fucked up. Yeah. I mean, going into that situation, it wasn't going to be in a good place regardless. Again, that's why, you know, you choose who you laid out, land.
Starting point is 00:44:09 They didn't go into that situation thinking family. So I'm with you. A lot of these girls were raised without their parents. And they're looking like, well, I wish I would have had one point. I wish my mother would have got $1.8 million for me, even though my dad wasn't going to be in my life anyway. Well, I mean, also. I would go, but I see their mind state. They're very twisted mindset in that.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's not twisted in my opinion. It's fucked up, but it's not twisted. And I'm not saying that about this woman. It's not twisted to have kids with somebody that don't want. Some women have nothing to offer whatsoever to the world and workforce but their vagina. I'm not saying they're prostitutes. And those women should not be producing. They're not, I'm not, women that are not having babies.
Starting point is 00:44:49 The only thing they can offer to survive in this world once they're adults, not even being a prostitute or an escort or anything like that, just a regular woman is their vagina. We can use certain attributes we have to make money. That's the only attribute they have. So it's not sick and twisted to go, well, let me go find a rich guy. because the only thing I offered to the world is my vagina. Yeah, but it's a lot of women that only offer a vagina. They're not having babies with niggins though.
Starting point is 00:45:16 But when you come to a point as an adult and you have to survive. They're selling sex. Yeah. They're making money, you know, building a lifestyle for themselves that they want, which is their business. But they're not having babies with that John that they lay down with. But that's the job. The baby is the career.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yes, they can fuck rich men because the only thing they can offer is their vagina and just their presence. They'll get bags. they'll get their rent paid, they'll get this and that. But when it's time to go from a job to a career, it's the baby that's going to give you that 401k. So that, and the only thing they have to offer is their vagina. You think that there's not sex workers that have not made a career out of selling pussy that don't have kids?
Starting point is 00:45:54 I think Roy's point is at one point they want to stop selling the pussy. Yeah, well, that's what I'm not even saying. Baby's the investment. I'm not even talking about women that are actually experts. Using a baby as an investment is fucking sick. It is sick. All right. So what I'm saying is there are plenty of women that sell.
Starting point is 00:46:08 sex that we know and they don't have any kids and they've been selling pussy for 15 years, that's a career. Because they have, even though sex workers are offering their vagina, that is still somewhat of a skill and a business to be a sex worker. I'm talking about the bum chicks that vacation as a job. They're not sex workers. They've just done nothing with their lives except for be pretty and men have just paid for shit. They have not exchanged a vagina for the. You don't think that's, wait, wait, wait, what? You don't think that's a sex worker? It's a low level. I know. I know what you're saying, but that's not what I'm doing that. Just because it ain't in a bio, don't mean they're not sex workers, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I'm fine with you making that case. It's okay. I'm fine with you making that case. Women are out here selling sex for monetary games. Okay, I'm talking about the women that have not given their life to the game, the ones that are not straight up. I'm an escort. This is my price for the night.
Starting point is 00:47:02 This is my price for the month. Real sex workers. Strippers that have graduated to be escorts. Real sex workers. sex workers. I'm talking about the bum pretty bitches that have done nothing with, they've never been on back page, Craigslist, they've never really been in the game to sell this shit. They're not veterans. They're just bum bitches that look good. No, they're bum bitches that look good. They are veterans. No, they are veterans. To hope their rent is paid. No, they are veterans. That is fine to say
Starting point is 00:47:26 that's a sex worker, but you can make a case. It's not, I'm not talking about the real sex workers. I'm talking about these chicks that have nothing, they have no skills. They never even applied themselves to anything else but being retarded and pretty. Those women... A lot of sex workers are retarded and pretty. What are you talking about? A lot of them are great business women. No, the women you're talking about just trying to front and be insecure and don't want to
Starting point is 00:47:47 say that they're selling pussy and want to sell it on the low. That don't mean you ain't selling pussy because you ain't saying you selling pussy. I'm saying a direct wire for a act of service. If I stand on the corner every day and sell an ounce of cocaine for 15 years, I'm a drug dealer.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Just because I don't live, if I don't say it out loud. I'm like, yo, listen, you know what I'm saying? I'm moving bricks. That don't mean I'm not a judge. Yes, you're a drug dealer. The cops are going to come and arrest you soon, sir. You're making a point that I can't refute. That's why I was saying, I understand what you're saying. No matter if a woman is saying she's selling sex or not, no matter if she admits it or not, no matter if she's out in the open and public about it, that don't mean that she's not selling sex. She is selling sex. Because if the right person walks up to her and says, yo, what's up? Like, come to take this trip with me.
Starting point is 00:48:30 You know, listen, I pay for everything to worry about it. Come out here. how much you need to cover your mortgage or your money. And all you doing is laying up every day taking pictures in hotels, going shopping and fucking this nigga and that. You're selling pussy. But they think they're in a relationship. They're fucking delusional. They're crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:46 They think that man's doing what he's supposed to do and take care of his women. I know they do. And he is to an extent. I know. To an extent because it takes two. It has to be a seller and a buyer. For sure. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So all I'm saying is let's not sit here and act like just because it ain't in her bio. Yes. Or she don't fucking, you know, she's not on brazers or porn. that she ain't selling pussy. You are making a lot of sense that again, I cannot refute. I will reword it to women that believe in their brain
Starting point is 00:49:11 that they are not a prostitute or selling sex. They think they're in a relationship. They think they're not fucking other guys. Ted Bunny don't believe he's a fucking maniac. Well, you know, he had a good reason. That doesn't change the reality is what I'm saying. What that woman thinks in her head
Starting point is 00:49:27 does not change the reality of what it is. This woman thinks that she's not fucking multiple men. She's just fucking this rich guy. When that's over, she's going to go fuck the next rich guy. That woman that thinks she's not a prostitute. She thinks she's a professional fucking girlfriend. That woman. A professional girl.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I'm saying when she's done. That's a prostitute. Yeah. Find all the names that you want. Come on, give me something. I'm not a delusional one. These women are.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I'm explaining something. Regular pretty girls who like they tend to date niggas with money because they're pretty and that's who they come across and they think that they're on a, like, they're dating this guy and they're like, oh my God. Like, why is he like not paying attention to me, this, this and that? But he's just fucking them. There are some women who really. believe that like, oh, like he likes me. I like him.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Like, we're like dating. Like we're together. There are some really ditsy girls that are like that. They don't understand they're in a power exchange. Yes. Oh, no, I get that part. That's what I'm saying. Us in the reality of looking at it. We know what time is.
Starting point is 00:50:17 We know what they all those women are. That's all I'm saying. So yeah, what you're saying is correct? They're junior horse. But in the reality on the outside looking name, when we say, wait, how do you know? Okay, you're with it. Oh, you're selling, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:29 You're selling sex. Fine. You're grown women. Do what you want to do. Nobody's, I'm not shaming. Well, how do you not? Well, let me. Damn dreams are doing the skincare line, or shit.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Because now I'm afraid. Like, now I'm afraid. No, you know when you're selling sex. Yeah. It ain't no accident. You know when you're selling sex. As a woman, well, how would you know? First of all, as a healthy functioning brain, you know when you're doing something wrong and right.
Starting point is 00:50:49 You know that. Well, I don't think that selling sex is wrong. So I don't think it is either. But I do know, I do know that a woman knows when she's selling pussy. If you're dating a guy that has up, that's well off and he's like, yo, come take this trip with me. and you guys are like living it up on the trip, shopping, having fun, having sex.
Starting point is 00:51:06 That means that you're, that automatically means that you're selling pussy? No, it means you're selling pussy if that's the only reason you're on that trip with that person because you know that they're paying. But how would you know that? Marrish, you know if that why it don't come through
Starting point is 00:51:17 you ain't talking to that nigga? Oh, that's what you mean? Okay. We're talking about, what am I talking about? We're talking about the women. Are we having a stroke? The women that actually believe they like this. Oh, we're having a stroke as a collective.
Starting point is 00:51:27 What the fuck is happening in here right now? What's funny is we're all on the same page. We're talking about the perception of these women that think they like these guys. They are really there thinking, oh, this could be my potential boyfriend. But the only reason he can be that is because he has a certain financial status or popularity status. Those women that don't think they're actually whoring.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But by definition, you are 1,000% exchanging your pussy for money. It would not exist if the money did not. Yes. Correct. But I'm saying those women, their contingency plan, that's a job for them, is going from rich guy to rich guy. The baby is the fucking career. So yes, they are viewing the only thing they can.
Starting point is 00:52:01 offer to the world is a vagina. But I'm saying that mindset is crazy. And what's going to make sure I have a 401k is a baby coming out of it. That mindset is crazy. That's all I'm saying. Oh, yeah, but it's just having a baby is an investment so that you don't have to work ever again because this guy has money and he's had to pay child support for. Having that mindset is insane.
Starting point is 00:52:19 But another insane mindset on the other side, which Aisha I think was trying to bring up with the weed man. There's plenty of women that have a baby just to save a broke-ass relationship. Women use their vaginas for multiple reasons that aren't financial. another one. Like this whole marriage could be crumbling. I know I can offer a child. So let me do this to fix the relationship.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Fuck finances. Yeah. I just think using a child for any of that is absolutely crazy. No matter what the problem is a child, it's not a solution. I know some sick-ass men that's trapped women because she was fast. Oof. Oof. Thoughts you were going to lock her down.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like it's not going to take nine months as you're not back out in the streets. You know men that trapped a woman? Yes. That's a thing. Yes. Not any, my personal friend, thank God. These niggas be out here. I see, I'm different.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I don't subscribe to that. These niggas be out here trapping. It's her choice to have a baby. I know, we know somebody that has a breeding fetish that was given. What's, what you give women to make them more fertile? What? What? I just took it this morning.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I know what you're talking about. Jesus. I did, no, but I know what you're talking about. So much from a theory. Ocra. Oh, fuck. No. The marriage ate 10 pounds of okra.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Maca, maco. Not macro. What's you talking about? No, there's like actually, I don't know what it is. The girl told me what is. He gives the girls he's talking to that because he wants to get all of them. Like he has a stable already. That's his thing.
Starting point is 00:53:40 If I'm dating and talk with you, you're going to be good financially the rest of your life, but I want a child. Like he verbally traps these women with consent. Like he's telling them once they start talking, I want a child. But see, that's not a, that's not a trap. I'm talking about these niggas. I'm talking about these niggas who are afraid to lose you or anything like that. And they will, or you too much of a house. girl and they will get you pregnant knowing because you love them that you're not going to kill the baby
Starting point is 00:54:03 yeah it happens a lot no that definitely happens a bunch of my friends that definitely happens yeah but that's him manipulating you thinking that y'all are you know together relationship you want to he telling you he want to have a family this and the third and then you know it's only in the back of his mind because he didn't want you to leave somebody else yeah that's a piece of shit ass and i'm talking about that's trapping though yeah but i'm talking about if you know the guy don't want you like that and y'all and y'all fucking around and you get pregnant and you know that he's He don't want you. He's not trying to have a family and you have a baby.
Starting point is 00:54:33 You can't then say, yo, he trapped me with a baby. You had that option to give him to that baby. Oh, yeah. Well, no. If he said he doesn't want a baby, then no. Yeah, that's what I'm speaking to. Oh, no. I'm talking about there are men who out be out here moving like women.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Oh, yeah, yeah. Trapping for sure. I'm not definitely no that. That's just going to lead to that person leaving your kid in McDonald's while they go do shit. Well, that gentleman, I mean, I don't know if I want to call him a terrible guy. I feel bad for him. I'm not calling him terrible.
Starting point is 00:54:58 somebody that just was like, you know, he didn't have no other options. He obviously needed a job. He's at McDonald's on a job interview. He probably didn't have nobody to watch his kids. He needed the job. He needed to take the interview and thought that, you know, leaving the child, you know, I guess he left him in McDonald's or in the car. In McDonald's. And like the play area or something. So. I mean, my mom may have done that once or twice when I was about six or seven. She didn't leave me. But, you know, she kind of, she knew where I was at. Like, he in there. He ain't moving. He ain't leaving. and he ain't leaving that room. He loves that playpen. Let me go outside and take this phone call.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Like, this probably happened. Authorities were called after a concerned customer, noticed the children ages 1, 6, and 10 were left alone. First of all, I think you're a very weird concerned customer if you're at McDonald's noticing the play area. Like, what do you just eat your Big Mac and go? I don't know. I mean, maybe the car would have been a little safer.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I see what he was trying to keep them preoccupied. I think a 10-year-old can watch his. siblings for a second depending on the 10-year-old. But in a public place, I see the outrage there. But let's know because we have to give the story justice. A respondent deputy found the children unattended. A witness report is seeing Lewis with the children around 4.30 p.m. that day. The witness also observed Lewis leave the restaurant, returned later before leaving again. Sound like he came back, checked up real quick right before he went to the interview and then left back out. Lewis arrived back at McDonald's around 618. So 430, he arrived. He came back at 618.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So little under two hours and was detained by officers. He explained that he had walked to the restaurant with his children from his apartment and didn't want to make them walk back while he attended a nearby job interview. Okay, so he had a job interview nearby. He didn't want to take the kids home, leave them home by themselves. They look like they may have been having a good time in the McDonald's playroom. So he probably was like, you know what? This job interview is right here in the same area.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Let me just run down the road, take this interview. I'll come right back. He did not own a vehicle, though. So that's the tricky part. It's like, how are you getting to him from? Did he walk? Was it that close? He could have walked to the interview?
Starting point is 00:57:05 Or he took the bus. Either way. The children's mother arrived shortly after and took the children from the restaurant. Lewis was arrested and taken into custody. I actually saw most of the timeline praising this gentleman, which I mean, I get it. It's a tough story, man. I fully understand that. But if the crib was walking distance, like why not?
Starting point is 00:57:22 Leaving the kids in the house. Unplug everything. Yeah, that's always the safer. If you got a good 10-year-old. I think a 10 year old for a little bit can watch their siblings if they're a good 10 year old. Yeah. But, I mean, I don't, leaving a one-year-old by themselves in a playground. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I wasn't really on the side of the timeline with this one. And it's, you know, you want to kind of, you know, give some sympathy for the guy because obviously, you know, he's on hard times and he's just trying to make the best decision for his kids. He obviously wants a job. He's going on the job interview. He's not just sitting around, not trying to do something. but doesn't have anybody to watch the kids. You know, and then now you're getting into the mindset of a neighbor couldn't have watched them, but then you got these freaky-ass neighbors that you live around. I'm sorry. I'm saying freaky-ass neighbors.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Yeah, you got these-downloaded the app. But I know what you mean. Just on his block is some freaks. Yeah, you got these freaky-ass neighbors. So you're like, I don't even feel comfortable telling the neighbor, oh, listen, just listen out, make sure nobody goes in the crib. I got the kids in there. Freaky-ass neighbor might try to go in there.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's tough, man. People, you know, people have, you know, very limited. options, very limited help when it comes to, you know, having to take care of it or help them with their family and their kids. But, you know, the main thing is he didn't leave, you know, his kids to go fucking meet some girl and have sex in the car somewhere. Like he went on a job interview.
Starting point is 00:58:44 He went to go. Well, he didn't have a car. Well, if he had a car, he may have, you know what I mean? But then it would have been another thing if he'd take the kids with him on the interview and leave him in the car. So, you know, it's like, what is somebody to do? I don't have help. I just feel like the car might be a little safer.
Starting point is 00:59:02 No. I mean, you can't do that because. Because the kids are more likely to get out the car. Not only the kids likely get out the car, I just told you out of story about my sister had the dog in the car for 10 minutes. Oh, I would have been one of those people. When those cracked, AC on, it wasn't even hot outside. It was fall.
Starting point is 00:59:16 It was like maybe 50 degrees outside. Dog is fine. We in the restaurant just getting some food right across the street to go. Come back and said, note on the car saying, hey, you shouldn't leave your dogs. And we're like, it was gone for bed. maybe 15 minutes. Yeah. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:29 So now you're going on a job interview and leave your kids in a... You imagine you leave your kids in the car? We see it all the time. People standing around the car. By the time you come out the interview, cops is at the car, ready to bust the window. Definitely not getting that job. Yeah, it's like, so then you can't take the kids
Starting point is 00:59:41 in the interview with you. This ain't fucking pursuit of happiness. You know what I'm saying? Nobody else will fuck about that. You know what I mean? He don't care about that. You know, find somebody who wants some kids while you come on this interview.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Like, but people don't have help. You know what I'm saying? But again, I don't want to sound like I'm not being sympathetic toward this father. He sounds like he's trying to get his shit together, you know, a salute to him. I think maybe we should start a GoFundMe. I've seen people start GoFundMees for other dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Let's start a go fund me for a father who, you know, got arrested because he left his kids in McDonald's playroom. While dangerous, it sounds like this wasn't a father. He didn't have a car. He don't have a job. He's going on an interview. He had his first kid at 14, if the math,
Starting point is 01:00:20 maths. He's 24 years old. He's a 10-year-old, a 10-year-old, and one-year-old. So now we're talking about, you know, somebody who just doesn't, you know, trying to get their shit together, trying to be responsible, you know, made some bad decisions at a very young age, but that doesn't mean that he can't get it together and turn his life around. But yeah, we should start to go
Starting point is 01:00:37 from me for this gentleman, whatever his name is. Just the one-year-old, though, in the playground. What was the one-year-old doing? Don't act like Amar ass wasn't running around when she was one. I mean, with the sibling, with the 10-old? Yeah. It's scary with a two-year-old of how easy they could fuck themselves. Yeah, no, listen, this is a very, This could have been very bad, you know what I mean? But again, it just sounds like a young father trying to get his shit together, man.
Starting point is 01:01:01 No, listen, if he had his child at 14, I'm sure that 10-year-old is way more mature than we would give a regular 10-year-old some credit. Unfortunately, it sounds like the 10-year-old would have to be. Yes, that's what I'm saying. He can't be a kid. He got to play dad. He got to play big brother. He got to play, you know, it's tough, man. Again, getting back to this family dynamic, having families in healthy dynamics and healthy situations, it's important.
Starting point is 01:01:24 man. Yeah. And I mean, I don't know what's worse. Having me take my child down a slide when I was with her or this gentleman leaving his children unharmed because I almost murdered Amara on that slide. Look what happens when the parents are there. Yeah. Sometimes the parents are there and the kid is in equal danger. Put them in danger. Yeah, you put them. Yeah, let's try that slide. Yeah, let's try that slide. She would have never tried that slide. Exactly. Exactly. But no, I get it. I don't know. I feel for him. It's tough, man. It's tough. Young, three kids, no job, trying to get a job.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It's tough, man. Josh was asking me what any wild parenting decisions I've made so far. I don't know if I've been in like a situation yet to have to make one. I've been a pretty boring father so far. Privileged. I agree. I mean, the slide was probably one of the scarier moments. I mean, her leg.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Look at Omar's scariest moments are going on to. I got broken when I wasn't there. That's like, but I mean, I don't know if I've had. But that happened. You could have been there and that could have happened. Knock on wood. There hasn't been anything out of the ordinary yet, I will say. But there has been plenty of times that like I've needed to run into the store and went,
Starting point is 01:02:36 damn, wish I could just leave her in here. And I'd call real quick. Especially in the winter because you got to take their jacket off to put on the car seat, then put the jacket on just to walk it like. This is why America's behind. There's a part of the world. I can't remember Josh, you can Google it. There's a part of the world where parents, people leave their business.
Starting point is 01:02:52 babies in the strollers outside of restaurants. Like a dog. Like a bike? And I'm talking about nothing happens. No babies are kidnapped. Probably like Sweden or Finland. I think it's Finland. I think it's Finland.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I think it's Finland. And I'm talking about this is like a, but this is a thing. It's like valet for babies? No, it's not even, no, nobody's watching them. It's just a known thing that the babies in it because babies like to sleep outside. The air, it's cool, but they're bundled up. They're wrapped up. But they leave them outside.
Starting point is 01:03:22 the baby is taking a nap sleeping and nobody's bothering these strollers. Nobody's even thinking about snatching these strollers, snatching these babies. It's like you go past all these stores and there's just strollers outside with babies in them and nobody's even, the mindset of doing something to these babies is not. Yeah, but, I mean, Norway and other Scandinavian country, where parents leave their babies bundled up and strollers outside to take a nap. We're in America, outside of just the straight psychos in America, I'm sure a non-psycho teenager would try to make some TikTok.
Starting point is 01:03:52 content out of your sleeping child. Like, it's not even, we don't just have to worry about the psychos serial killers like we used to when we were younger. We have to actually, we have to worry about like normal people. Content create content. You ever see somebody juggle three sleeping baby? Like that's the biggest threat to America right now is not necessarily mass shootings. It's people with regular chemical brains trying to make content out of your life.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I could definitely see a content created if we had this type of thing in America, a content creator taking the babies and putting them in different strollers and then recording it from away like look at the parents like yeah when they look in the store it's not their baby like that's not the type of content we need then my favorite thing is what the parents would freak out and then the content creator would get mad at the parents and go yo it's just a prank why you getting upset exactly yeah remember those guys used to like uh run around the hood and and and fuck what hood dudes in the projects those middle eastern kids and then they fuck them got shot right no one of them got a gun pulled out was it was just a prank what's wrong with you like oh you're pretending to try to rob people
Starting point is 01:04:50 in an environment where it happens. It actually happens that, yeah. And I used to hate, it's just a prank, it's just a prank. What's your problem? This is just, you know, we need to adopt some type of culture like this in America. Look at our entire basis of this country is based off having to worry about psychos. Like, we should be able to just walk on a plane. But you know, that should be, we should be able to pull to an airport and just walk onto the
Starting point is 01:05:15 plane and leave the same way we do when we get in our car. But no. There's an entire department based off a psycho that will try to take this shit down. Did that say in Manhattan, people leave their bait? Where? In lower Manhattan, like many places, parents typically leave their babies in strollers outside restaurants on sidewalks or in designated areas? Literally never happened.
Starting point is 01:05:33 That's never happened. Never happened. I've seen strollers left outside of restaurants. There wasn't no baby in it. The baby was in that little same wooden ass high chair that every restaurant has. Can't even keep their head up. Yeah, can't even hold their neck up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:47 That baby wasn't in that stroller. little. Nobody in Lower Manhattan is doing that. I can promise you. No one's leaving an empty anytime I've been to a restaurant with Amara, I ask you, where's the broom closet? Like, can I put this stroller somewhere? Because someone's going to take it up. Yeah, I got a nice stroller. You know, why they can do that in Norway and in Scandinavia?
Starting point is 01:06:03 You know why? Let's look at the laws on punishment for kidnapping in America versus versus Norway. They also can like afford to. They'll probably kill you the same day in Norway. They got nice jails. No, they have nice prisons in Norway. That's better than college dorms.
Starting point is 01:06:18 But what are the penalties for kidnapping in Norway? Gotta be death by shooting range. Gotta be. No. They don't even have guns in that bitch. Yeah, I was going to say that's not. Yeah, the only guns are the shooting range. They have better health practices.
Starting point is 01:06:30 They're not raised as psychopaths like us. Yeah, they have better health practices than us and like they're not starving for money like we are. So there's no need to kidnap the baby to sell it because people can afford to live. And let's look at like the chemicals that are in their food versus ours. Yeah. Like let's look at what really fucks with your brain chemistry. They don't need that type of stuff. That's the penalty in Sweden.
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's only one year. Unlawful deprivation of liberty to imprisonment for at least one in most 10 years. You have to understand. We're talking about Sweden here. Sweden's 9-11. Wait, that's kidding. Like, I'm talking about a baby, though, not like an adult. I'm talking about a baby.
Starting point is 01:07:03 They have max sentencing of 21 years. The guy that murdered, like, 50 people. 21 years. That's it? Yeah, they don't have harsh. They have a harsh crimes like 21-11. Yeah, they don't have harsh crimes over there. I mean, harsh.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And again, you have to look at that country. Their version of 9-11 was ASAP Rocky saying to a fan, hey, can you stop bothering me? Yeah. That was like the biggest crime. The biggest news. That was the biggest news in the last 10 years over there. It's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Three years for child abduction? Wait. That's a light. If you miss one child support payment, you're doing three years. Three years for stealing a child? I might take a baby for the day. What's the fuck of it? You know?
Starting point is 01:07:47 Like me and dad. Just walk around. Walk around. Bring it back. Like, hey, no, why are you crying? I got an extra ticket to the Yankee game. I'm going to bring a kid. Bring the baby back.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Why are you crying? Why are you crying? I was coming right back. Let's just wanted to see what it felt like to be a dad for a few hours. That is crazy, man. That's funny. I mean, I don't know, maybe Adam 22 should take no jumper out there. Yeah, you cool.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh, come on. Oh, come on. Go. Oh, what, man. Push the break. Go. Dribble, shoot. I didn't have to.
Starting point is 01:08:12 I didn't push the gas. He posted a video himself. No, I know. Adam, we're not allowed to talk about something that he said. No, of course, absolutely. No, Adam 22 posted a video yesterday
Starting point is 01:08:22 explaining the financial status of No Jumper. The future of No Jumper podcast is hanging in the balance amid structural changes. On Wednesday, Adam 22 announced that the company will be undergoing layoffs roughly five years
Starting point is 01:08:36 after No Jumper saw a massive jump in YouTube viewership and social media following. First, we lost the No Jumper Instagram. Then after almost 10 years of building it up and essentially no strikes on our account. We got taken down one day and we still have absolutely no idea why. As a solution, Adam has laid off multiple employees and closed a no jumper store in Los Angeles. The podcast crew will also be downsizing by selling their warehouse.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Nice warehouse Adam has out there in Cali selling their warehouse and relocating to a smaller workspace. I saw people killing Adam for posting this video. And first of all, I don't have the greatest relationship with Adam, but I don't have an issue with him at all. Salute to Adam. I thought that that was. I thought the transparency was dope. I thought it was honorable.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Like, you know, he's telling people what it is. Because, you know, once you start making changes and people see the changes, they're going to ask anyway. Like, hey, why are you in a different studio now? Hey, he must be that Rico. They must have him jam. They're going to start throwing, you know, all type of shit around. But I respect Adam for, you know, just being transparent and letting us know that, you know, his company. But I like the fact that he kept it, kept it hunting.
Starting point is 01:09:44 He ain't say he's broke. No. I got other ventures and investments. He's like, just this. There's no jumper. Multiple businesses. One is not doing great. Owning this warehouse.
Starting point is 01:09:53 It costs money. You know, it's just draining them. And, you know, you have to be financially responsible and financially intelligent out here because, again, you don't want to be in bad business
Starting point is 01:10:04 and losing money. The idea and objective is to make money. So I respect Adam for being transparent. Yeah. I mean, even like, you know, when I'll talk to people on Twitter space,
Starting point is 01:10:14 or just even back and forth with people on IG. You know, a lot of people don't realize that this is actually a full business. Like this is not just plugging up microphones and talking. There is a lot that goes in to producing this type of content. It takes a lot of people, it takes a staff, it takes obviously a space. It's a big task to take on. And a lot of people say with so much confidence as podcast fans
Starting point is 01:10:39 that they think it's just some easy-ass shit and like we're complaining about nothing and like, I'm like, all right, well, then you go do it. Oh, when they were complaining. You're doing it on Twitter spaces all day? Why don't you go do it? They were complaining during just to bounce off of that, piggyback off that, when Maul was, when we did our prank and they're like, all he did was talk. Why is he so upset?
Starting point is 01:10:54 He has to talk again. I'm like, oh my God, y'all are so fucking stupid. Like, this changes the whole schedule. It changes Pige's schedule. Like, this is a whole process that affects so many people and the energy. It's a lot. And I'm glad Adam brought some light into that because like Mall said, we've been to that space. He said he spent $4 million just to purchase it.
Starting point is 01:11:13 And I'm sure another million was put in to set everything up in there. It's a great, great place. Great, great warehouse, great setup that Adam has. But I can see it becoming costly over the years. The landscape, the money has changed in podcasts and in constant creation. So, you know, what was once coming in, it's not coming in. Meanwhile, you're saying overhead has to go out every month and every year. And that's no slight to Adam because that's any business owner in taking a risk based off what the market is at the moment.
Starting point is 01:11:43 trying to predict where it's going. Especially during COVID when Adam was doing that, yeah, numbers for everybody, your favorite streaming service, everything completely shifted and we could not predict where things were going because we didn't know when people were gonna go back outside, what people's mind states would even be,
Starting point is 01:11:57 like the shit I was obsessed with during COVID is not even in my brain anymore. As far as how I operated, like, I'm just a different person because I'm not confined into my house. Right. That was a tough thing to figure out. So while Adam was killing it in COVID,
Starting point is 01:12:12 yeah, things shifted. And that happens within business. And I'll speak for us and our peers in podcasting. When that boom hit, yes, it was great financially. But we also felt across the board we had to compete with real TV shows, real talk shows, where our production value got super, super expensive because we had to look like the other shows. Then streamers started killing, which is great. And myself included was like, damn, they probably, their overhead for the month is probably
Starting point is 01:12:42 like $1,500. And they are getting more views than us. Things shifted where we thought it had to be super high production because we were competing with Netflix, Hulu, all these other places. Streamers came in and showed that, hey, you don't necessarily have to do that. Vlad has a great fucking business model. Yes, he pays his guess. Cool, but his overhead is low as fuck.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Half the time he'd be on Zoom. His overhead is low and getting more views than all of us. That's a great business model. But he had his niche and what he wanted to do. Adam was trying to grow an entire network and a platform, which required all the people that he hired and the space that he needed. He wanted multiple shows. So I get the risk that he took, and I don't think we should fault him for that.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And I appreciate the transparency. This is an ongoing change with this genre. It changes every fucking day, and it's very tough to get ahead of it or know where it's going to shift because it shifts constantly. Anybody that's laughing at Adam or, you know, whatever, they just don't, they've never been in business, ran a business. you know, they don't know what it takes to build a business as big as Adam has built his. But it's nothing to, you know, it's part of it.
Starting point is 01:13:50 You have to go through changes. You have to downsize. You have to, you know, the same way you have to expand. Sometimes you have to downsize. That's just part of business and part of being in the landscape that's constantly changing, constantly evolving. But I thought that, you know, it was cool for Adam to be transparent and just let people know, get ahead of it and say, you know, there's some changes coming. So we start to see things It look different
Starting point is 01:14:11 And it's not this person around That person around This is why, you know We're making changes And again, that's part of business You know what I mean So it's nothing to To be ashamed about or laugh at
Starting point is 01:14:22 I don't think Adam is ashamed of anything That he said Or put out of us He wouldn't have did it But I do respect that transparency He doesn't have much shame With anything Well, I mean
Starting point is 01:14:31 Like people fuck your wife We can get one shot in the right You know Can't compliment this man too much It is what it is No but I respect No, I respect it to and I respect anyone that does take risks, especially at the level that Adam has in this game. So hats off to them.
Starting point is 01:14:46 And a lot of us find out, like we're trying to change the market space and create different types of content and add more people into stuff. And a lot of us are realizing, you know, the main show is the only one that's really bringing in any money whatsoever. Right. All this other shit is just costing money and not getting any retention rate. Why don't I focus since I'm an adult now on what the real ROI is here? Yeah, I love doing this other shit. Yeah, I love putting my friends on. on the stream and this and that, talk to gang shit and all that.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Nah, fucking my wife on camera is really paying the bills. Like, yeah, let's be like for a real. Like, what do I get it. I love that I tried it, but I'm not as youthful as I once was. I don't have the same energy. I don't have the same focus. Adam has kids, I believe. Like, yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:15:23 So I'm not always going to be dumping all this money into something that clearly for the last year has not brought me any return or sight of return. Now, while I do respect, but I respect it. I do respect the transparency. I do think, feel like he may have left some things out. I do think just a small part of the, of this might have something to do with that RICO. Just a very small part, things that happened at the building, around the building.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I think that Adam wants to get away from that energy. He wants to shut all of that down. Doesn't want to have people have access to him that they once had. I think he just wants to kind of, you know, just move in a different way now. So I do think a small part of, you know, the latest in this whole RICO thing and people that were part of his platform or on his platform at some point in another. I do think some of that does play into it. I think the FBI just subpoenaed him.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Was it last week? Yeah. What you guys called me the feds for. I don't know if it was subpoena. The most obvious take ever that the feds would obviously be contacting him to see where money went to the people involved in this. Not they did it because you gave him a tip. You're right. Well, yeah, you were right.
Starting point is 01:16:27 The feds were even thinking about it. No, they had no clue. They weren't even looking at that. But, you know, and then not only that. Red. I do think that the, you know, FBI may have asked for, you know, edited audio. I think they may have asked for unedited video. I'm sure, yeah. On his platform for people that were on there. Um, so again, I think that, you know, he was very transparent,
Starting point is 01:16:48 but I do think there were some things he left out of the mix. And if he gets subpoenaed for that and wants to stand tentoes in which I get, even though he's not a street guy, that's still, that runs a risk for anyone that's ever going to come on your platform if the person that's interviewing you or the platform you're going on is not protecting you. Right. Like if someone, if that happened to us for some reason and the feds asked us for I would fight against that just off the integrity of our show nothing to do with criminal shit but that costs money right like we would have to hire a lawyer to fight that subpoena right yeah off a case that has nothing to do now we're just spending money for the fuck of it and then I think he said he is it's another
Starting point is 01:17:24 legal thing that he's going through with somebody else I used to be up there yeah he's dealing with um so you know he guys he has a lot to deal with uh somebody who seems to be okay financially though and not going through any turmoil. Ruby Rose, or she came home and said that she makes 400K, 400K a month on OnlyFans and a horrible month. 400K. Now, let me just say this.
Starting point is 01:17:44 I think Ruby Rose is absolutely beautiful. I think that, you know, we have a lot of men in the world or people in the world that, you know, they just, they don't have any social skills. They know they'll never be around with Ruby Rose. So they'll pay to just interact with Ruby as any way that they can. Well, they'll pay this.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Is it Ruby? Well, is it Ruby? It could be her manager answering those. Those messages. Freaky-ass manager. But again, you're playing on people's, you know, just their lack of, you know, whatever you want to call it. They're just in awe of this beautiful woman.
Starting point is 01:18:17 I've seen a lot of women jumping into like, shit, Ruby making $400K on a bad month. Shit, I can at least make $50K. Let me tell you right now, ladies, no, you cannot and no you will not make $50K on a bad month. Y'all are going to go on this OnlyFans and spread your balloon not open and be very humbled. when you look at that bank account at the end of the month and it's only $600 in there. And now your butt holes on the internet for free.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Everybody ain't Ruby Rose. So ladies see these numbers and they start thinking about, oh shit, well, I can make OnlyFans and I could at least get $800 a week. Know you, you're going to be very humble and still in debt when you realize that your butt only brings in $73 a week. And it really has nothing to do with the way that you look. It has to do with popularity.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but even if you're popular, nobody want to see you in nothing sexy or naked. Everybody, that ain't for everybody. No, I'm saying, I'm saying even if you do have the body, like- You could look like Ruby Rose. You would look like Ruby Rose, but if you don't have the access to people. But if you don't have the access to that fan base, then it doesn't matter. That is true, too.
Starting point is 01:19:17 But obviously, she's built a fan base, but women are just seeing this number, and they're not paying that in the amount of years that Ruby Rose put into building a following in the fan base. They think that just because they feel like they look good naked and that they're sexy attractive to them and to whoever they have access to feel like, oh, you look good. They feel like, oh, well, she's making that on a bad month? I look good. I can make 50K on a bad month.
Starting point is 01:19:40 No, you cannot and no you will not. We talked about it before, like, within the first, like, 100 episodes of this podcast, but I really want to manage someone's only fans. Like, I feel like I could get people so much money. Like, because I feel like that's a job. Like, the managing of our only fans talking to all those men and doing, and making those exchanges and stuff. because the majority of the people who have...
Starting point is 01:20:01 I don't think you would be good at that. I don't think you wouldn't want to do that. I would be amazing. I don't think you want to interact with people like that. I think if your job was to sit in open messages, sexual messages, and respond in a sexual manner, I don't think you can do that. It's not me. Because it's not me.
Starting point is 01:20:14 What? Getting something off at somebody else? Correct. It's not you, but I still don't think that you would want to do that as a job. If I was taking home 20% of 400K a month, I'll do it. Shit, I'd sit there and do it. I'd be interacting with you. I'd be interacting with you.
Starting point is 01:20:30 people messages for free and that's why it pisses me off. But 20% of 40K, yeah, I get real talkative. And at that point, like, I mean, how much conversation are these horny men really have? You could just have a notes full of generic responses, a lot of copy and paste. There's no way those conversations get that deep. A lot of it is not even just conversations. A lot of it is, okay, you pay the only fans fee and then you send a message for a specific video. So I'm sure that Ruby Rose has a bunch of pictures and videos just saved up. You go on that folder, toss that shit out for an extra day. Oh, send $100 and I'll bend over in a thong and twerk.
Starting point is 01:21:07 What? Bam. You get $2,000, 2,000 customers to do that for $200 each. Oh, no? That sounds that. I love the way those numbers rolled off your tongue. Let me show you. It's not that easy for that to happen.
Starting point is 01:21:19 No, I know you're doing the math. Like, yo, $200 dudes, $100 a clip? This is the twerk? I'm sure it's not easy. But what I'm saying is it's possible. And there are women that make good money of Onlyfans. I'm just saying I would want a piece of that pie without having to show my pie. No, I'm cool.
Starting point is 01:21:37 I just want to serve the pie. I don't want to serve the pie. I don't want to serve the pie. You don't want to be your pie, though. Yeah, not. So you want to be a pimp, what you're saying? That is not a manager. No, that's an administrative work.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Yeah. That's what Don Juan has been trying to tell you out for years. Which I seem to be arguing with it. Facilator. Yeah. That's what darned want to tell you. Does Ruby like give it up on her only fans? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I haven't subscribed to it. I just feel like the internet for how nasty it is would have leaked that already. Like she's making foreign cages to show her half of the song. Yeah, I don't think she's naked. Good for her. She's like completely nude or nothing like that. I just think she's the same shit she wears on her Instagram. Oh, well, shit, good for her.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Which is why it's mental health because you can see those same photos on her Instagram for free. You got these in cells that know that they would never have a chance of speaking of Ruby Rose. like now they have access to her on OnlyFans. That's what this, all of this is just praying on mental health. That's all the shit. But you don't have. It's not like Ruby's like DMing you from her account. They don't know that, Rory, mental health.
Starting point is 01:22:38 They feel like it's hurt. I don't know. This is when they crazy show up to her book signing and be like, we speak every day on on OnlyFans. Talk to me. And Ruby looking like, nigga, I don't, that ain't me. These are the people that are out here in the world that are paying this money. And that's scary.
Starting point is 01:22:52 These are $25 a month. These are the $30 a month guys that are just. She didn't even claim Druski who's famous in a relationship when they actually were. She said he paid for it. And then double bag was like, yeah, now you didn't. We was really, we was really rocking. We've seen people that we know were in relationships and they asked the girl like, hey, so how was it dating? Like, who?
Starting point is 01:23:12 I don't know who you're talking about. Yeah, me. I do that all the time. I don't know what I do you talk about. I don't know who you talking about. Like, who? I was never in a relationship with them. Omar, you missed our conversation.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I'm going to start being mysterious. We have the same reaction. We all had the same reaction. What do you mean you're going to start being mysterious? I'm going to start like being mysterious. Like, ooh, nobody knows anything about me.
Starting point is 01:23:34 She's on a podcast. I could talk about everybody else business. I don't got to talk about my own. Name one mysterious podcaster. There's mysterious, there's mysterious podcasters. Like who? Who, Joe Rogan?
Starting point is 01:23:50 Joe Rogan tells us when he eats a wild boar right before he starts recording. Who's a mysterious podcast? But that's mystery. That's mystery because where he gets the boar from, how do he catch it? You don't know. You just not hate it.
Starting point is 01:23:59 You could type in a code 20% off to get the gun. Joe Rogan does catch, uh, bores. They, boys catch him. Oh, shit. They just show up at his house. Like, please eat me. He runs with the Boris. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:09 The boys just show up to Joe Rogan's house. But you're going to start being more mysterious. Mm-hmm. More mysterious or you want to be mysterious? I'm going to start being mysterious. I don't feel like I'm mysterious at all. I overshare. It's a podcast.
Starting point is 01:24:21 No, he, so, so, that fast I already know. See, all right, so, so, so what happened? Nothing happened. What happened? She got a text. Yeah, I know she, the marriage always coming here with these fucking newfound fucking, had this fucking change of heart. I'm going to be more mysterious.
Starting point is 01:24:36 I'm going to start going out more. I'm going to start making more. All right, what conversation did you have? A guy she liked, liked the wrong reel on her IG of some shit that she didn't want him to know. No, she had a conversation with somebody that she liked and they was like, oh, why are you talking? I don't like when girls talk about stuff like that publicly. That's not, none of that is true. So why you want to be mysterious all of a sudden?
Starting point is 01:24:53 I want to be mysterious. I'm not even. So when I came in and I said I wanted to be mysterious, I don't want to overshare. Rory automatically was like, where you're on a podcast, you have to. Because all he gives a fuck about is this business, not me as a friend, right? You have to overshare, but I'm talking about in life, not on the podcast. On the podcast, obviously I'm doing my job. It's my job to talk.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I'm going to run my mouth. I'm talking about in real life. Like, I feel like, and you know, a lot of people agree with me on this. I feel like sometimes I work through my thoughts and my emotions. Like how we come on this podcast, we'll get a topic introduced to us and we'll be thinking about how we feel about the topic in real time. And then by the time we get home, we're like, oh, what I said on the podcast. I don't really feel like that about that topic,
Starting point is 01:25:30 but I didn't get a chance to really think about it because it was spur of the moment, right? That's daily, that comes with a game of daily podcasting. Yes, that's podcasting. But in real life, I do that with my thoughts and emotions. So I'll come in here and word vomit to Rory, and by the time I get home, I don't even feel that way about what I was word vaming into him,
Starting point is 01:25:46 but in his head, that's who I am as a person. Not maybe not exactly you because you know me so well, but to the average person. So I'm like, okay, so now when I've passed, I'm past that emotion, I'm past that thought. People that I've spilled those things to are looking at me like, that's not me. I mean, like, that's me or that perception of me is what they have. Meanwhile, I've completely, like, changed my mind and I only thought about that for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:26:09 And I don't want that anymore. So I'm going to start. That's also helpful with daily podcasting. You can come back in. We just all have too much pride and ego. We can come back and say, hey, I didn't mean any of that shit I said last episode. Oh, when we do that doesn't. I was wrong as fuck.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Or, or stand on it. Oh, that's what we do, which. We shouldn't sometimes. The easiest thing that at the matter. Now, I'm not mad that you want to be more mysterious. I don't think that you have to be mysterious. I don't think it's the word. I don't think that you people know much about your personal life.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Yeah, I don't think they have anything to do it. I would say, just don't say nothing. You don't truly believe. And if that's truly believe and if that's how you feel and what you're saying is how you truly feel and your real thoughts, cool, no matter if you say it. And then when it goes out, people disagree with you and me in the comments. Oh, what the fuck? That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Okay, you feel like that's crazy. I believe it 100% of everything that I said. And I think that's the easiest way to approach it. I think y'all are completely missed to the point that I was not talking about podcasting about that at all. When I come in on podcasting, I stand on what I say. And when I do say you want to be more mysterious in life? Yes. I can't speak to that because I don't know exactly how not mysterious are.
Starting point is 01:27:12 That's what I was talking about. Oh, okay. That's I wasn't talking about on podcast. I thought you're talking about on Mike. No, I'm Mike. Oh, and life? I don't know what the, you're mysterious. I don't know what you do when you leave these four doors.
Starting point is 01:27:22 So I don't know. It's all the mystery to me. You could go out there and have a kid. I wouldn't know what the fuck you do outside of these four doors. So it's, you're mysterious to me as far as I'm concerned. Like, but I'm thinking about on mic on camera. Oh, yeah, no. I'm, no.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And life? Oh, then that's, you know. Anybody dating me who has a problem with the things that I say, I might, depending on how fine they are, they just got to deal with it. Depending on how fine. If you were certain level of fine, if you were certain level of fine, if you were changed, right. You'll come on here. I'll come on here.
Starting point is 01:27:48 You act right. And be like, happy Eid. Look how fast you act right. Grand Rising. Grand Rising. Grand Rising. Grand Rising. Grand Rising.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Happy Eid. I don't know. I thought that's kind of like backwards because why would you want to be more mysterious in your personal life with your friends? Like I could see on the microphone not want to do that. Listen, man, we just going to keep it. It's keep it real Thursdays, God damn it. Demaris then met somebody and had a conversation.
Starting point is 01:28:12 That's not true. And now she feel like, you know what? Nah, I'm going to be more. You know what? I'm going to just, nah, because you know what? It gets me feeling like they know what I'd be having going on. No, it's not that. I feel like there are some people, this is more friend-related.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I feel like I've expressed a lot of like my life or my feelings to people who I no longer speak to and I wish I could take that information out of their brains. Oh, but that's what you told. I mean, Mr. Let me let me let me let me let you know something. And you're only 30? Listen, a lot of these girls you with now that you think is your friends and your homies and your cronies and all this other kids? It ain't just girls men too. Men too, right?
Starting point is 01:28:48 And you're going to look up one day and not know where the fuck they at, what they got going on, what they're doing. Me, while they got your deepest, darkest secrets, you just in a tuck like a fucking bingo card. But as long as you ain't no crazy shit. Kind of crazy shit. That's what I'm talking. But what crazy? What crazy did you do?
Starting point is 01:29:05 What crazy? Honestly, you're not like, what crazy shit could Demaris have possibly done? Some shit you just would not want people to know. Yeah, but we all do thing. But it's not nothing like I may have a hooker in Vegas together. Well, I mean, yeah, people shouldn't know about that. But outside of killing somebody, outside of, like, who gives a fuck? Who cares?
Starting point is 01:29:23 Like that's my like there's so many people that I had a moment in my life for like maybe six, five, seven, eight, ten years that I haven't spoken to him probably six, seven, eight, ten years. I don't care about none of that shit that happened when we was hanging out running around that shit. I'm like, great. I didn't do no sucker shit. I never did no foul shit to nobody. I never did no, I never violated nobody. So I mean, I may have kissed a girl or slept with a girl that are looking back. I'm like, damn, I should have never fucked that girl.
Starting point is 01:29:52 But who hasn't? What if you fuck some of my wife? I would never do that. Wife, like married, I would never do that. Damn. You probably done it and didn't know. Oh, then that's not on me. The onus is the onus.
Starting point is 01:30:01 I get it. I get it. Whatever makes you sleep in my head. The onus is not on me. She slept with somebody while she was married. How DeMere's started this process? She opened her phone and went on TikTok and said, hey, guys, I'm going to be more mysterious.
Starting point is 01:30:14 On TikTok. She told TikTok. She told TikTok, you know, I'm just at a point in my life where I feel like, you know, I'm giving y'all too much. And I'm going to put it behind a paywall. The mystery is behind Patreon. Subscribe. Everyone's been asking me about my skincare routine, but I want to be more mysterious about it.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I'm tired of gatekeeping my facial cleanser. I'm tired of gatekeeping my products. I'm tired of gatekeeping something that's at Sephora. Yeah, so the link is in my bio. Put everything together. You guys get to subscribe. Use my code. I'm doing the love of the game, but use my code.
Starting point is 01:30:46 That's the mysterious. Like, DeMaris mysterious is they don't know when she's going to drop her next video. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap little Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
Starting point is 01:31:06 I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day.
Starting point is 01:31:24 But just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed, correct. So I'm starting to see there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence.
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Starting point is 01:31:53 A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 01:32:22 One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports. sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I feel like it was a little bit unbelievable until I really start making money.
Starting point is 01:33:00 It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. If I'm outside with my parents and they're seeing all these people come up to me for pictures, it's like, what? Today now, obviously. It's like 100% they believe everything.
Starting point is 01:33:26 But at first it was just like, you got to go get a real job. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. And what I mean by fail is they don't have money to pay for food. They cannot feed their kids. They do not have homes. Communities don't work unless there's money flowing through them. Listen to eating while broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:33:54 When you listen to podcasts about AI and tech and the future of humanity, the hosts always act like they know what they're talking about, and they are experts at everything. Here, the Nick Dick and Poll Show, we're not afraid to make mistakes. What Kugler did that I think was so unique. He's the writer-director. Who do you think he is? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:15 You mean the president? You think Canada has a president? You think China has a president? Does law a brousette. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at like. It's like the old Polish saying,
Starting point is 01:34:32 not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep. It was a good one. I like that. It is an actual Polish saying. It is an actual Polish saying. Better version of Play Stupid Games, win stupid prizes.
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Starting point is 01:34:58 I want to know if Corey Booker's selling diapers yet because that's gonna that's his gonna be his moneymaker first what is his Cory Booker shit he did he did a filibuster for 24 straight hours can somebody quote anything that he said in those 24 hours he just did his David Blaine politician shit I got to know if he went in there with a diaper already on like it had to been prepared there's no way you're he had a little porta potty behind the uh behind the podium and I mean we don't have to fully get into this I do think shit like this is what the Democrats need I'm shake shit up I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:35:28 They just need something other than Biden's face in Kamala. And, you know, Cory Booker, I think, has done great shit for Newark. And, I mean, he's ran before. It just didn't pan out. Yeah. But, I mean, he's fucked bad bitches and he doesn't need to pee for 25 hours. I'm interested now. Is there anything you could talk about for 25 hours straight?
Starting point is 01:35:48 Nope. No. Nothing? Nope. I don't care about nothing for 24 hours straight. What about five hours? Like, if you had to give a five hours. I've been doing that shit for fucking.
Starting point is 01:35:57 for a decade. Yeah, 12 years of my life. Yeah, absolutely. Five hours here, absolutely. 24, 20. There's nothing, no. I'm going to lay down, man. I'm not, no.
Starting point is 01:36:09 I don't even talk in the house when I go. Well, there's no one there, Ma. But if there is, maybe an hour or two, conversation, turn the TV on. Fuck. You know, hide the pickle, you know, go to sleep. This is what it is. Yeah, talk about how to hide the pickle. Yeah, talk about great hiding places for the pickle.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Do y'all like that though? Like silent dates where you're just like... Silent? No, not silent. But when you're sitting with someone in silence. If I can sit with you in silence, I like you. Like a first date or second date, no. But that's a big part of me getting along with people.
Starting point is 01:36:43 If I can sit quietly and it's not awkward and everyone's fine with it, that means we're in a good space. Yeah. Unless now you can be silent and know that there's some shit going on that you need to be talking about discussion. No, not that. That's not healthy. I'm just saying everything's fine. Yeah, everything's fine. And sitting in silence and know everything's okay.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Yeah, like sitting, you know, watch, I don't know, Top Gun 2 or something, I don't know. Rest of the piece, Val Kilmer. Me or Rory did that. Did watch Top Gun. We sat in silence and watched Top Gun. It's creepy because I watched Top Gun, I think, Sunday. And, you know, obviously Val Kilmer's in the movie.
Starting point is 01:37:14 He plays Ice Man. And I had the thing. I was like, I know this wasn't a role. He's really sick in real life. Yeah. And I thought, I was like, did Val Kilmer die? Just watched Top Gun 2 against Sunday. And I asked myself,
Starting point is 01:37:26 yo, did he die? So I'll do what everybody was to go to the Googles. Val Kimmer still alive, you know, bowel throat cancer, seems to be okay. And literally, what, Tuesday? Yeah. Tuesday they announced that he passed.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Literally, Sunday night watched it and thought that to myself. And then Tuesday, they announced that he passed. So you jinxed him. I don't think it was more. I think it was me. He was fighting something. But it's just funny how that happened.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Like, I literally thought that Val Kimmer died. So I'm like, is he still alive when I watched Top Gunn II? And then he passed. Tuesday. So rest of the peace to Belkimer. Yeah. Legendary actor and I've said it a million times and continue to say it. Top Gun 2 is incredible. Incredible movie.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Went in wanting to hate it and now I watch it pretty often. It's so fucking good. I was watching the movie with people and somebody was like, damn, I kind of want to be in the air. And I'm laughing. And I'm laughing. She looks cool. I'm like, this is what it makes you feel like in watching it, you feel like
Starting point is 01:38:20 and then like towards the end where they're just over like the ocean fighting. It's like, no, I'm cool. I was like, yeah, you don't want to be over that open body or water. And you get shot down and now you're just floating in the fucking ocean. I'd rather take my chances in the jungle in Vietnam. Yeah, it's not real. Now they're behind you and shit.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Yeah, it's not real. But when it's real, yeah, you don't want that part. Like the days before the war, like when you just got your shirt off playing volleyball, you got a Harley Davidson. Like, that shit looks ill. Like, you're the man at the local bar. Right. You get a leather jacket.
Starting point is 01:38:51 Like, yeah, I see the prop again. I want to join. Here's the thing. And this is one thing that I always get confused with. Was he in the Air Force or the Navy? Navy, I want to say. Navy. And what is the difference between the Air Force and the Navy?
Starting point is 01:39:09 One's in the air and ones in the sea. But see? He had to been Navy. I think the Navy is just the Sea, right? I think the Navy is part of that too, though. Yeah, because the Navy SEALs don't, like, seal. Like, they don't be, like, in the water. They do be in the water.
Starting point is 01:39:23 What are you talking about? They do? Navy. Yes. Navy SEALs being awarded. They train in San Diego on the beach. That's one of the biggest parts of their train. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:39:32 Oh, I didn't know that. Bud's training, I think, whatever the acronym, is about underwater demolition or something. But because we've been fighting in the fucking Middle East for so long, they're just more become like a tactical team that is used. The same way like Army Rangers would. They're just the best tactical team. Okay, so the Navy focuses on maritime operations,
Starting point is 01:39:50 protecting ports and oceans, while the Air Force concentrates on air and space capabilities, delivering forces rapidly anywhere in the world. So I guess that you can protect ports and oceans with fighter jets as well as... I mean, they're on the aircraft carrier like... Right, so that's what I'm saying I always, always got that mixed up. I can never tell, are you in the Navy or the Air Force? And what the fuck is the difference?
Starting point is 01:40:09 No, I mean, they're all great in their own way. The Navy is pretty fucking badass, though. No disrespect. Marines and Army and everything. You guys... In the Navy. But the Navy has a better PR team. I'll put it that way.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Okay. And Rihanna. And Rihanna. That's a, that's a... That's a crazy. And a great federal bank. A great credit union. And Trump had some crazy plans for the Navy on Twitter, if you remember.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Did he? The nigger Navy? Oh, my God. He was trying to make a nigger Navy? You don't remember that day on Twitter? That was a great day. Where do I vote? Where do I sign up for the nigger navy?
Starting point is 01:40:46 Because you know we ain't flying. com. That's he posted it. You don't remember that day on Twitter? No. That was like easily top 10. Was that real? days. Yahoo, like, whoever is their
Starting point is 01:40:56 copywriter. They meant to say bigger Navy. Trump has plans for a bigger Navy. Oh, and never the copywriter, whatever his auto correct is. Let's get into that. That's what it was. You can change that. You can adjust it. Whoever worked at Yahoo. Yeah, yeah, okay. Put that
Starting point is 01:41:10 and like with the picture of the Navy, that shit was one of the funniest Twitter. The Knit Navy might be dope, though. That shit ain't nothing but a big-ass yacht, big-ass boat party. That's all that shit is. We got a DJ fool. You know how we're giving it up. To our competition on deck. Miami.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Nobody will get in the water. Fuck you, Peach. Yeah, nobody will get in the water. Fuck you, but I'm looking at Yahoo Finance and, like, how they responded to that. They said, we deleted an earlier tweet due to a spelling error. We apologize for the mistake. That's so bland for you typing, like, you tweeting out nigger. Like, you should have really, like, put your all into that PR response.
Starting point is 01:41:45 It's like, ah, we apologize. Nah, I didn't care about that. Yeah, but sometimes, you know, you make a mistake. It's like, all right, it's out there now. What we're going to do? Y'all know what we met. That was the greatest day on. Until they actually roll out with a nigger Navy.
Starting point is 01:41:55 They'm like, oh, so this is what I was trying to do. You know what I mean? Like, I'll sign up for the nigger Navy if and when it happens. What armed forces, two-part question? What armed forces would you guys join and at what war? Well, I told you the story about I wanted to, I had dreams or aspirations of being a Navy seal when I was younger until I saw the actual training. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Like, fuck that. But that was the only time I ever thought about anything armed forces, Navy SEAL, and I would have wanted to be the guy that went in. to go get Osama because I think I would have stopped him like hey he'd had nothing to do with 9-11 like I would have went in there like yo he has he seems like there's a reason he's surprised he's chilling this guy has nothing to do with nothing they're lying to us he had nothing to do with 9-11 yeah reason he's been in Pakistan untouched like everyone's knows he had nothing to do with this people back was like he had what gonna demonetize us he had nothing to do with that
Starting point is 01:42:53 Yeah, I mean, SEAL Team 6 did, I'd probably do Navy SEALs. I'm not the man for that. But let's say in this hypothetical situation that I would be man enough to do that. The SEALs looks the coolest. It looks cool. It looks like a cool shit. The Army Rangers looks pretty cool, too. The Air Force are the guys that jump out of the planes.
Starting point is 01:43:13 The paratroopers not. But then also the Navy SEALs do that as well. The Navy SEALs kind of just cover everything, period. The Navy, what's the Navy Seals? The movie with Mark Warburg that I love. Weren't they Navy Seals? Because they were in Afghanistan. Yeah, that was Navy Seals.
Starting point is 01:43:28 You know you could also like be in the Navy and like also not be a seal. Like it'd be Navy people that's just like chilling. Like Navy like Otters. They're like you don't have to be a seal. Navy Otter. I don't know. That's like being in the NBA and you like, oh, you an NBA? I'm a ballboy.
Starting point is 01:43:46 No, that's not true. The majority of the Navy are people who aren't seals. Yeah, no. I'm going to be the ones. The seals are a whole separate. Yeah, but they respect you differently. Like, when the seals walk through, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:56 The women respect the seals differently. Oh, no, they crush box in San Diego. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They respect the seals. They're like the drug dealers of San Diego. They shut down any... We're like the 1% like he can't do what I do. Loan survivor.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I can hold my breath for 17 minutes. Like, he can't do that. Loan Survivor is what you do. Loan Survivor. Incredible movie. If you have anxiety, do not watch it. The entire movie, your heart is going to be racing. I love that movie.
Starting point is 01:44:18 What's so crazy of, like, war propaganda movies works so well. I, you know, think that entire war was bullshit, controlled by the billionaires. We're all getting fucked for it. I respect these guys in the armed forces because they think they're there for our freedom, so I have nothing but respect for them. But they're being used like the rest of us. But still that frogman poem gets me to cry. Yeah, every time. Like, I have no connection to them. Why am I crying? I felt like a frog man in my living room. He was hopping around. Yeah, I was like, yo, you pack that, you pack that wound and you get the move. I'm watching like, this is bullshit, but tears running down my face
Starting point is 01:44:52 during lone survivor. Who was the guy that Bradley Cooper played? American Sniper? Yeah. Rest and peace of that gentleman, but it also found out a lot of stuff he said was bullshit and insane. That entire time I felt so American.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Yeah. But it's Iraq. This is bullshit and you're killing kids. And he lied about a bunch of this shit. This is awful. We should not be even thinking about this. But I want to wrap up an American flag around me when I watch it.
Starting point is 01:45:17 You have to sleep in an American flag after you. So look at these savages. and what they're doing to white America. When you ask, like, what she would be? Like, if I had to choose, I would probably be, like, a sniper in the army. Yeah. Sniper would be cool. Yo, what's so with you, Damaris?
Starting point is 01:45:32 What? She wants me mysterious. She want to be a sniper. Like, you want to be here, but not here. You want to be all the way down there. Just killing them up. But nobody knows you killing them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Like, why the fuck would I want to be the one where everybody know I'm who killing them? Like, that'll make no good. Run down. Run down. Big business. I don't want to run. You want to stand. You want to be 100 yards away?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Yeah. I think I'd want to be part of like the Canadian Army in World War I. The Mounties? Just nothing. Just safe and into- Protecting the maple trees? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:00 I don't know. World War II, I feel like I'd have more pride. That may be the one I'd want it. Like an Army Ranger in World War II. I feel like I was protecting my family and freedom at that time. Yeah. These new wars like, I'd never even heard of Vietnam. What do we, why am I going over there?
Starting point is 01:46:16 What was the war with Brad Pitt in the side of the tank? Oh, with Shia Lab. Yeah. Fire. That was World War II. Great movie. The tank broke down. Tank was busted.
Starting point is 01:46:27 They were coming down. The ops was coming down. He said it was like 200 of them coming. Fury. Fury. He's like, we got to get out of here. We got to leave.
Starting point is 01:46:35 And Bradford was like, nah, I'm staying with the tank. Like, fuck that. And that was all. At that point, you got to stay with the tank. You have to.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Imagine like trying to survive of a family and then one idiot's like, no, I'm staying with the tank. Now I got to stay with the tank. I can't leave. We can't leave him. We can't leave him here. Yeah, we can't leave him here.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Turn poor Shaila Buff into a monster. Yeah. Innocent soul. I don't want to murder any children. Then he was just murking kids by the end. Great movie. Shout out. Tom, other underrated one in Fury,
Starting point is 01:47:01 Tom Hanks, when he's the like submarine, they got to go from New York to London. Thank God for planes. Is that Mission Impossible? No, not Tom Cruise. Tom Hanks. Oh, Tom Hanks. It's something about like the German submarines.
Starting point is 01:47:16 They have to go through some area around London. Greyhound maybe. There's a lot of underrated war movies that always just make us look like the heroes. Yeah. Like the Germans had a real bone to pick. There was another movie I forgot that was like a submarine movie
Starting point is 01:47:33 and that looked crazy. That was like one of the best movies I've seen out of like, I mean, Crimson Todd is obviously a classic. Yeah. But I forgot the movie that I watched and it was like you could actually see the submarines like shooting under the war. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Pearl Harbor you could see that shit too, which was nuts. Great movie. Pearl Harbor. Great movie. We should do a, like, a war watch party sometime. How sad and depressing. I'm like, cool. War movies are the best.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Yeah, I love them. It's not even really close. But in way more important news, I don't know how we even were talking about Cory Booker when we finally got the answers we were looking for. Just recently, we were talking about on Don't Know Ball, crime mob, and what they've done for the hip-hop genre.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Close to heart, diamond, is to me as a lyricist, MC, and purest of this genre that I love. I didn't know Kenyon Dixon was going to be the one to break the news. So Kenya tweeted, finding out crime all broke up because Princess lied and told
Starting point is 01:48:32 Diamond that they saw Michael Jackson at six flags and he wanted to get on Nuck if you buck is sending me, dog. What would M.J. be doing on Nuck if you buck if you buck. To me, that looks like, that's real friends. That's how you fuck with your friends. You have to. But obviously Diamond wasn't in a space to be joking. That was like a career-changing, life-changing feature that she thought that they had.
Starting point is 01:48:56 And you would have heard if Michael was at Six Flags. Nothing about that. What would Michael Jackson be doing at Six Flags? Can we play the clip? Me and my brother went to Six Flags, right? We came home. We called Diamond. We told her we saw Michael Jackson at Six Flags.
Starting point is 01:49:17 And then Michael Jackson wants to get. get on a few books. And that he just left our house. And she needs to come listen to his verse. And she ran all the way from her house to ours. And she believed us. And it hurt her. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:49:39 I'm sorry. We told you. Michael Jason. You're being fucking serious. I'm so serious. I'm so serious. How are y'all when it's? 16.
Starting point is 01:49:52 He said the starter crime mob You told Michael Jackson's What is it that possibly Wait, they was 16? And in the early days, yeah. I mean, they put music out after Nuck a few bucks So I guess they
Starting point is 01:50:06 They figured out this problem they had amongst each other. But they're saying that's why Crime Mound broke up. I mean, maybe there was a breakup in between that I missed. Yeah, that's some funny shit though. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:50:19 I would have been mad too, but we ain't going to not be. friends behind that shit like we ain't gonna break up the group i would have been fucking heated you niggins some of yo ma'all michael jackson just left the studio recorded up and i wasn't here and i run down here and this flex alexander yo please i will be mad but we ain't gonna not part again my my older cousin told me my grandfather was a serial killer when i was young and i believed it for like a couple months and was terrified of my grandpa like, didn't even want to go near him
Starting point is 01:50:50 and he didn't understand why. Still talk to my cousin today. It's fine. Yeah, it's all good, man. Play some pranks, man. I just think it's funny that not only do they see Michael he wants to get a knock of you, but he came to the house and that's where he laid the first.
Starting point is 01:51:03 He laid the vocals at the crib. You got to come here, Michael's first. Yeah, some shit is just like, alright, man, you really believe that? You think that Michael Jackson pulled up to the crib and laid vocals in the closet? Damaris, we may need more time. This could be a next week Patreon thing.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Okay. Do we write the Michael Jackson, Knuck, Fie Buck? Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. Is that our next battle? Oh, for sure. Michael on Nuck if you buck? For sure.
Starting point is 01:51:32 I'm down. I'm going to smoke you at me. Am I allowed to? But Mike ain't rapping though. He's singing. No, Michael, he got a little tongue, like a little double time flow. Show me Michael Jackson's double time flow. Pull up the record right now.
Starting point is 01:51:45 No, Mike got a fool up. Don't tell me what he got. All up the record. Mama's say, mama, my, my, that's, come on. That's rapping. That's not rapping. But that ain't even Mike saying that. That's like a quiet. Which blew my mind when I found out that wasn't Michael.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Mike said, hey, Mike saying that. Show me a verse where Mike is in his double time flow. There's got to be something. No, it's not. You know you did in anything I want to get. Come on now. He gets into his bag a little bit. That's a hook.
Starting point is 01:52:11 He's singing the hook. That's not, he's not rapping that? What are y'all talking about? I feel like, is the bridge on Billy Jean? He might have a little 12. off. The closest Mike ever came to rapping is when at the end of J verse when he was like, yo Mike, he's like, I don't think they're ready for this one. Please. That was the closest Mike ever came to rapping. Yeah. Rap? Come on, man. But we know he could have. Like, he would
Starting point is 01:52:36 have approached Nuck if you buck in a very artistic way. A double time. Because Mike heard that and was just like, I have to rap on this. This is like the most incredible. Skin head, dead head. Everybody gone back. The tuition allegation. Everybody conversation in the Sue on the news. Everybody dog food. All I want to say is that they don't really care about us. That's bars. That's rapping.
Starting point is 01:52:57 Stop. That might be the same BPM as Nuck if you buck. Definitely. Definitely not. Definitely the fuck not. All right, well, y'all have fun at it. Let me hear what y'all come out with from Michael Jackson on Nuck if you buck. Let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Can I download Mike Adlives and play them during my verse? Sure. Anything to help you land the verse. Whatever you need. I'm going to need a week for that one. All right, before we get out of here, do we have any voicemails? Do we miss anything? Firefest update.
Starting point is 01:53:27 I mean, me and Justice over the weekend, talks, we're going. Billy said it's going to change all of our lives. So me, like, if you guys want to come, Justin and I were booking our tickets as soon as that location is announced. Firefest, I definitely got to be there for that. I got to see Billy shit on everybody again. Bologna sandwiches under a tent. I mean, we can get the villa if it's three of us.
Starting point is 01:53:51 We were going to get individual tents, but if you want to roll, we can get a villa. Nobody's. You injustice in the villa? Nobody will have a villa. It won't be any villas available. There's not an island. There's no fucking fire fest happening there. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:03 We have voicemails. You've got mail. Hey, guys, huge fan of the pod. I guess I'm just looking for a little bit of advice. So I met this cute guy. We were sending each other messages. flirty text messages for like three days straight and everything was going good I think on the last day things got a little spicy in the text messages and then one or two days go by we haven't
Starting point is 01:54:33 text each other and I reach out to him trying to be flirty and like I kind of felt like he was kind of being distant and of course he's the one who like initiated all the flirty messages So when I tried to do that, now I kind of feel like I have to wait for him to reach out to me. And I'm just kind of wondering, like, I don't know, I feel like there was like post-text clarity. And now I feel really weird because I have to be cool and, like, wait for him to text me because even though I enjoyed our messages, like, I feel like I have to wait for him. so I'm just kind of wondering like why are guys like this
Starting point is 01:55:20 like why does this happen why do I feel like I have to play it so cool even though I enjoyed our conversation and want to keep being flirting with him thanks guys for the advice in advance I mean balloon knot and then say the balls in your court yes in that invisible ink man do not do that baby
Starting point is 01:55:39 why not don't do that don't do that they're ready if he was consistent with the flirting then yes send the consensual balloon knot. No, no, I don't have to be the balloon knot. But you know, send it in a little invisible ink, a little, you know. I think some people just are bored for a few days. Or his girlfriend finally came back from vacation.
Starting point is 01:55:57 That could be it as well. Now, he doesn't have the free time that he once had. Yeah. Or he could be dealing with something mentally and he's just no longer in the mood to flirt. There's so many different reasons. This is why I hate Dayton. Because I feel exactly how she feels like it's very difficult.
Starting point is 01:56:11 It's very difficult trying to see, okay, I want to let this guy know that I like him so I don't want him to feel like he's just chasing me so that I give some back, but he doesn't give it to me the way that I pause, want him to give it to me so now I feel like I'm like chasing him and I don't like that and it makes me feel weird, so shit I, it's fucking terrible. Girl, just spend a block
Starting point is 01:56:28 on your ex, that's what I say. Of course, that's what Demaris says. Do not spend a block on your ex. Let that man be happy in peace, move on and find somebody new. Her ex let a few days go and, I don't know, if you see something that reminds you of a conversation y'all had a few days ago, like, hey, thought of this. And if there's no response, then move the fuck on.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Yeah. Yeah. And there's also nothing wrong with triple texting or double texting. If you like to get that mentality. Yeah. That's ego. That's all ego. That's ego.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Yeah, but sometimes sometimes you need ego. Ego is good. Ego is good sometimes. Because like, I don't know. I know how y'all always say that y'all, like, oh, I don't care if a girl is like, you know, showing interest in me. But that really does turn some guys off where it's like, oh, she's sweating me. Like it's just a very sticky game to play. It sucks.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Yeah, but. By just saying like, hey, how's your day going? Yeah. starting to conversation. Yeah, that's not thirsty. Like, if you didn't respond to my last text message and I text you again, like, hey, how's your day going? Because if you don't respond to that one, then I'm a, that's my thirteenth reason.
Starting point is 01:57:23 But again, again, your ego is making it seem like he's just not responding to you because he's not into you. When they're really good to be going, he could be going through a whole life crisis right now. And obviously he doesn't want to share and put that heavy. Which one is most likely? Life crisis. The life crisis is not more likely than the guy just not being in a job. Or he has like a job.
Starting point is 01:57:43 his job, got evicted, he's sick, family member sick. That happens. It does happen, but that's not a regular thing. That's not like... That is a regular thing. That's not the go-to. That's not the...
Starting point is 01:57:54 So you're basically telling me when I hear hoofbeats to think zebra is not horses. Like, no, like the most likely thing, it could be both, but which one is it more likely? Well, if you don't put your ear to the ground, you never hit a Buffalo coming. That's true. So it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:58:10 That's a great, Benny Bar. Why did she, why did you call here for a vice? babe. Why? Why here? Okay. Also put in perspective, Thursdays for us. Pre-production, two episodes, pick clips, pack up, leave. Brain is fucking fried. Don't want to necessarily talk to someone. That doesn't mean I don't like a person. I was not on my phone for seven hours. Then I communicated for those seven hours and I just want my brain to fucking rest. No, I don't feel like having a full text or FaceTime conversation with somebody. No matter how much I like them. That's Kat, because I know you. And if you like somebody and they text you right now, the moment we're on our break
Starting point is 01:58:43 we go dip our little fingers in our guacamole, you're going to text them back and say, hey, I'm recording right now. I'll hit you later. And even if you don't hit them later, you're going to say, hey, I'm tired. I'm not saying that somebody can't send a simple text of what they're doing. But that full-blown conversation shit, yeah, maybe I could only do that on Saturday and Sunday. Maybe I could only do that Tuesday. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:59:03 No, I'm just on the side of some people go ghosts for different reasons. It's not always because of you. That's all. I'm not saying, you know, what I'm saying is law. But that happens. People get distant and communication drops because they got real life shit going on. So your advice to her is to text again and see where it goes from there. And just text like, hey, how are?
Starting point is 01:59:22 You know, haven't heard from him in a couple days. Hopefully everything's cool. Like, you know, like, see how you start doing the snake soon as you can't, you can't. You hate to show some type of care and emotion for somebody. That's not true. It's not about care and emotion because if I know that you care about me, I'll give you all the care in the world, all the grace in the world. But if I'm trying to figure out if you were just bored, like if you just happen to
Starting point is 01:59:42 be texting me because that does happen. Some men get bored and they just text you. And then once their boredom is over, you're over here like, oh, giggling, oh, he was texting me and you want to text him. And he shows that it's like, oh, that was like a two-day thing. Like, please leave me alone. That's damaging to people in their ego. So, yeah, they can be afraid of that response. Or, I mean, I'm saying he should communicate this. But what if he doesn't want a pen pal? Like, what if we had three days of flirting back and forth and you just seem like somebody just wanted to text? Like, we're not seeing each other. I'm not doing this. Well, yeah, I mean. They live in the same city? Did she say?
Starting point is 02:00:11 I don't I it didn't sound like she did she kept saying flirty text messages or whatever but like ask me out then the fuck yeah but if you don't well yeah even if you don't live in the same city I could try to set something up a date to kind of link up and meet up and have some fun or whatever so girl if he why the pressure the pressure it's that's why I don't text that's why I face time that's because people put too much into shit that's even more pressure text the person that's not pressure base time yeah I face time I'm not texting you all day I got shit to do let's yeah but based time is even tougher I can't do I can't do the shit I'm doing it from face-time.
Starting point is 02:00:42 I can't put my phone down. I got a hold my phone. I got to prop my phone to be sitting right in front of my phone talking to you. Like, I got shit to do. So if we're going back on flirty text messages, that'll take 10, 15 minutes. I can call you and say exactly what I want to say, get that over with. You see how pretty my face is. You get the Riz and then I get up out of there.
Starting point is 02:00:58 And the next time I see you, it'll be in person. But texting all day, I'm not texting all day. It takes too much. I think for me, Texan just takes too much effort. I'm definitely not texting all day. I'm not doing that. Yeah. Not all day.
Starting point is 02:01:07 I can't have a full text conversation. That's insane to me. But yeah, eventually we do have to FaceTime. We have to talk. I need to see your face. I need to hear you say something. I need to see your eyes when you say something. See if I'm lying?
Starting point is 02:01:18 Yeah, got to. Got to look in your face when she says certain. Don't let her text serve shit, fellas. No, no, no. Call her. Say that again? Like what, Ma'am? Anything.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Maybe lying in your face too, though. Oh, yeah. Those are the real demons that can look you right in your face. Those are the ones that can beat the lie detector. They know how to control their breathing. They're like Steph Curry's. Those ones. They know how to slow their heart.
Starting point is 02:01:37 down in the fourth quarter. You know how to slow their heart rate down in the fourth quarter. You know, in the ocean's 11 when he steps on the nail and the shit so he can beat the light. All these chicks stepping on nails. They're sleeping on nail beds to fucking slow their heart. Usually our producer Josh is over there cackling.
Starting point is 02:01:52 This whole conversation, he's just been sitting there staring. Yeah, because Josh. He's a hurt soul as well. He's like the rest of us. Josh girls lives in California and she ain't answered the phone in three hours. So now he over there. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Seamaw. He's going through. What? He's in a long-distance relationship. I know how that shit can get. He saved all his facial hair off stress. Yeah. Nicking him pick the hole in his beard.
Starting point is 02:02:15 I know how I go, Josh. I've been there. I've been there before, buddy. Don't get you. Josh, I'm so sorry. Yo. John's like, wife, she ain't texting back fast enough. I don't like that shit.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Ain't that much photos in the Lagos for the world, right? LeBron don't need that many photos. And that three hour time difference will fuck with your head when there's no communication. Yeah. Hell yeah. Like, I get it. It's early. It's 8 a.m.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Here, she's not up yet. Yeah. Then it starts to get to like noon over here. And you're like, it's a weekday. Yeah. Lakers ain't even playing tonight. Yeah. Like, what you doing?
Starting point is 02:02:47 You ain't taking no photos. Oh, and then don't wake up at 7 a.m. And she replied. Ooh. Damn, caught. You at. It's 4 a.m. where you at.
Starting point is 02:02:57 You're up. If you missed, if it's a long enough gap, if it's hours between text message, you can't just respond. And it texts, hey, no, you got to call me. You got to face time. I got to know where you at right now. seven hours and my text went on the answer? That's why you gotta wait till you get home,
Starting point is 02:03:11 get fully under the covers, mush your hair up, and be like, hey, I see you text me. That's what I heard that women do. Yeah, and then that's when I text back like,
Starting point is 02:03:20 hey, I saw you just walk in your building. And just dating can. So now we both, now we both panicking. Now we both panicking. Now we both, now what?
Starting point is 02:03:31 Now we both. Dating seems way too rough. Because even if I did after a long day, text in a respectful way, It is not rough. People are being honest with each other. Dating is only rough when both of y'all are lying to each other. Let's say I am being completely honest and I am burnt after a days of podcasting and I just want to lay the fuck down.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Didn't get much sleep the night before and say, hey, had a long day. Let's just talk tomorrow. I'm going to get some rest. I'll even send a selfie from the bed. I guarantee you I end up in the group chat saying, girl, he's being weird. He's being shady. Not if you're dating mature adults. Mature adults don't behave like that.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Mature adults, again, being. and honest with each other. But there is a thing of patterns. And if you create a pattern with somebody that you're dating and talking to and you usually face time before bed or, you know, you create this pattern if that changes, you know, for a day you don't face time or you don't say good night, text, good night, whatever that pattern is that you create it, then you can only understand that it's going to be some type of like, yo. I agree with that. My pattern is I'm always tired. Some days I just can't fight through it. Right. I get that. No, listen. I'm always exhausted. Just some days I ignore it and talk to you. Right. I get that part.
Starting point is 02:04:37 But express that part, is what I'm saying. Like, I get text messages like, yo, Demaris, I'm exhausted. I can't talk right now. I'll talk to you tomorrow. That's fine, because I have times where I'm exhausted and my phone's on D&D, and I just want to watch Grey's Anatomy. I don't want to talk to you. Like, normal humans have that and they can understand that.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Yeah, people have healthy relationships. I just think that it's not, people don't talk about healthy relationships much. People don't repost healthy relationships. That's true. People have very healthy. They're too busy being happy. Yeah, exactly. You don't go fuck about social media.
Starting point is 02:05:05 We're happy in real life. Like, we hope. home, not speaking, bored, but we bored together. Yeah. Farting under the covers together. Healthy. Yeah, healthy. Let that gas out.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Yeah, let that gas out. Go ahead, girl. I know what you smell like. Everything shit about that in. Yeah. I know what you smell like when you fart. You've been in a non-farting relationship? Me?
Starting point is 02:05:22 Anyone in this room. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's women that I don't know with them, but that was like, you know, little flings. Yeah, little flings. But like real relationships with like, I got shit at her crib. She got shit in my. Oh, we fart.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Yeah. Like, I know when you're parents. I know when your period is coming, by the way you fart. Like, yeah. Mom make everything funny. Yo. I'm just, real dog.
Starting point is 02:05:42 If you were the girl, like, you really with her? You're saying with flames. You're like, yo, you're on your, you're on your monthly. Like, you, you, date two. Ma. Roy, what? See, that's wild. Date two is crazy.
Starting point is 02:05:52 That's why he'd be going crazy ready to hurt himself and bring harm to the stuff. She got fear of hormones and her fart and shit. He's all in. He's playing, he playing poker with his cards up two days in. Yo. What do he doing? I got to fart. I got a fart.
Starting point is 02:06:06 You got to keep lying. I don't have like an issue on the second date. Unless it's some shit. I don't fart on, first of all, I don't far on any date. Like, I'm not like on the wood chair. Like, yo, here this. Oh, my finger.
Starting point is 02:06:16 Not like that. I'm saying, not like that. I'm saying if she's staying over and she stayed over a few nights and we're on like date to have going out. Yeah, I'm a fart if I have to fart. Yeah, I look weird. Nah, I don't. I'm cool, bro.
Starting point is 02:06:27 I need just, I hate with people. I don't make a show out of it like a fucking six year old, but yeah, I'm going to fart. No, don't let your representative leave too quick. Like, keep him around for at least five days. I need a representative for at least five dates. The only time I fart around a girl that's not my girl is like if I'm sleep. You look like you fart in your sleep.
Starting point is 02:06:43 Oh, I let it go on my sleep. Oh, man. How do you know? Because I can feel the vibration. I'm like, I'll just let one go. It's in your dream? Yeah, you know, bram. I'm like, damn, I whole shit ain't here that.
Starting point is 02:06:53 You fuck around and be in the bed with a dude and fuck around and fart and wake yourself up. It's this. That's why you got to fall asleep. That's why you got to fall asleep watching heat. The shootouts. Turn the volume up no matter what, yeah. It's like fart on a plane. Nobody knows.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Nobody knows, man. She might smell and be like, I think this nigga just you can't prove it. Didn't hear it. Can't prove it was me. Maybe it's you? We don't know who it is. Now we're under the covers guessing. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:19 I don't know. I don't be like gassy like that where it's like an issue. But if I have to fart, I'm a fart. Just go to the bathroom and fart. Why are you? If I'm in bed? Yes. Sleep?
Starting point is 02:07:29 Well, not if you're sleep, obviously you don't have any control over it. But I'm talking about Rory. Like if we're laying in the bed cuddling and it's like our third date. bro, go to the bathroom. No, but first of all, see, that's, that's just having some cootth. Like, if we're cuddling, yes, I will hold that fart. But, like, if I just need to fart and we're just chilling, I'm going to fart. That's like having, if I'm in a full-blown relationship and we're fucking and have to fart,
Starting point is 02:07:51 I'm going to hold that fart. Because that's just cooth, but just chilling here. You don't hear this fart? No, that's crazy. It's two days in? That's crazy. Take it. That's what.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Take your ass. Dates. Dates. But even two dates. Two days. All right. But how long, how far apart of the dates? It don't matter.
Starting point is 02:08:05 I don't know you like that. You still got like beauty marks I haven't seen. Go to the bathroom. Take that fart to the bathroom, bro. Yeah, I can't fart in front of you on. I think it's more annoying for people that snore on the first night. Go get a mask. Feel that shit out.
Starting point is 02:08:20 Yeah, but I don't have no mouth tape. The way people say you shouldn't be dating if you broke, you shouldn't be dating if you snoring. Yeah, but I don't have no mouth tape. Put duct tape on. You don't travel with that? No, I don't. You don't put the condom in the, in the whole bag?
Starting point is 02:08:33 I'm a black man. I can't travel with tape. They're gonna be like, yo, what he up? I can't travel with no tape. I find snoring really attractive, women's snore. I find it really attractive, especially if I, like, really, really like you or love you, like the fact that you're that pieceful of sleep. If you like that, if you like that, shit, shut the way.
Starting point is 02:08:49 That's not true. Shut your ass. I'm sick of Demaris with her shit. He can do the fart snort for the same time. If he fine, he could fart. Like, I don't care. How fine is he if he. Shut the fuck up, DeMarry.
Starting point is 02:09:00 I'm sick of her shit, man. Just shut your ass. She always got that prerequisite like, yo, he's fine. If I really like them, like, shut the fuck up. I'm just being honest. Shit in my kitchen floor. Yeah, if I really like a shit. That's what men do.
Starting point is 02:09:13 That's what men. Women will put up a damn near 80. That's what men do. They shit on the kitchen floors. That's a real man. Trying to take masculinity away from us. We shit on the floor. Oh my gosh. I'm just telling y'all, when women really like you, like, it's a lot they will let you get away with, except me seeing your ass crack.
Starting point is 02:09:29 I don't give a fuck. How much I like you. I've been not ever see the crack of your ass. Like ever? Like ever. Have you ever showered with a man? No, not like that. I mean, you got pants on and I see a crack of your ass.
Starting point is 02:09:39 I'm cool. Why, though? I'm cool. I can't undo the ick. I know it's not reasonable. I'm not saying that it's reasonable. I can't undo that ick. I can understand if it'd be an ick if it's not your man.
Starting point is 02:09:51 Like, if it's not a guy you're with, you're like, yo, pull your pants. But if your man is around the house, he got his basketball shorts on and, like, he bent down to fucking, y'all broke a glass. He'd been down to sweep it up and you eat the crack. Like, you know he ain't got no drawers under his basketball shorts. because you icked. I was just in there, you were just sitting there
Starting point is 02:10:09 licking all over this man. Now it's an it because I'm sweeping up something. Listen, you can have the, I'm still going to stay with you. I'm not going to leave you.
Starting point is 02:10:16 I'm not going to make you feel like shit. But I'm going to go, ugh. Put your pants up. That's cool. Yeah, she's just going to find somebody else. She is going to crack his ass crack.
Starting point is 02:10:24 This thing got his ass crack out. She was someone that also has an ass crack. Yeah. He texts his group chat like she being weird and distant. I don't know what's going on. The whole time he just bent down to sweep up some shit you broke.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Yeah, some shit you broke. Some shit you broke and my shorts were sagging and my crack was out while I was sweeping a broken glass. And now, over a sudden, I'm in your group chat. Girl, this nigga walking around his ass crack out. I'm cleaning up your shit. Like, what are you talking about? Damn.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Women have the craziest thing. A rough error for you when all the Brooklyn guys were the short white T's with the Hermes belts. We always saw the ass all the time. No, but if he was fine, it's all good. Like, Damaris don't care. As long as he fine and she like him. It's all good.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Fair enough. Passet. Well, this was fun. Everyone enjoy their weekend. have a safe weekend. Yes. I think the weather's supposed to be okay. It's going to be shitty.
Starting point is 02:11:07 It's raining until Tuesday, but it's all right. They're not streaming Dreamville Fest. Did I read that correctly? They're not streaming? Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. Damn, man. I was really looking forward.
Starting point is 02:11:16 I could have misinterpreted that, but I was at least excited to watch the stream because I don't think I'm going to make the trip. I think I'm too tired. Wow. If I drive, will you go with me? That would be like. Driving in North Carolina is sick.
Starting point is 02:11:31 I've done it before. That's a drive. especially on the week on a Friday. Oof, on a Friday, it's crazy. No, we could fly. Yeah. Well, y'all have fun at Dreamville Fest. I'm saying now that I probably...
Starting point is 02:11:43 Where he's not going? I begged him too. He doesn't want to go with me. Well, I mean, listen, if you're going, have fun. Whoever's going, if you're listening and watching, have fun. Tell Jermaine, I said hello. Don't tell Jermaine. Why?
Starting point is 02:11:56 Don't tell Jermaine. Yeah. He said on his Twitter, no, it won't be streaming this year. Which sucks. They always did a good job with their streams. but you know why i didn't know eve don't want the safety to have it if this niggins would catch it on a phone anyway if he decides to
Starting point is 02:12:11 give another speech eve don't want to eve like nah we ain't streaming that shit if you gotta be there to hear it he ain't wait they can take everyone's phones he'll turn the Wi-Fi off in the whole the whole 20 mile radius yeah it'd be easier to unplug the mic than it is to unplug the stream facts um well yeah so i'll probably just be chilling well whatever you're doing be safe be blessed we'll talk to you soon i'm that nigger he's
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