New Rory & MAL - Episode 360 | Popping Cherries

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

We come back from the weekend and immediately need to discuss Ciara reminding social media how lucky of a man Russell Wilson is (2:11). Rory and Demaris decided to skip out on Dreamville and maybe caught a little bit of FOMO (9:08). Damon Wayans went on Club Shay Shay and told Unc he fell in love with an ex of his nephew (41:15). Usher is out on tour breaking up marriages, and Rory completely understands it (52:55). Plus a food scientist calls in leading to a debate about overrated entrees (1:34:07) #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yo, whoever started that rumor when I was a kid that Sierra was a man, We need you to the podium. Who started? That was a, was it? The way they hung Saddam in like the village in the center, that's what we need to do to the person that started that rumor when I was a kid that Sierra was a myth. I agree with you. But now the only thing with the white man saying is if it's a black guy that started that rumor,

I don't know if you really thought. No, but you like, I wouldn't be part of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you won't show up to the actual. I would vote yes at city council for it, but anonymously. You send in a mail-in ballot? Okay. Death by firing squad.

How about that? Is that better? A little better. That's a little better. Torture him slowly. Whatever it is. But, Roy, we are here today. This entire episode is dedicated to the greatest rebounder that ever lived.

Russell Wilson, we are just here today to give you your eternal flowers for being just a, you know, a professional, a stand-up guy. Man. When the task calls, you answered, you answered that task. and Sierra too I mean she has the longest video in history right now I think the video's about two hours and 12 minutes yeah no it's a six second loop that's on for two hours yeah I love the Nokia video but I haven't watched that

since Sierra dropped her video I didn't even look at my child for a weekend yeah it was just locked in on the phone hard I mean baby D hard she look I mean yeah Sierra looks she looks amazing man She looks absolutely amazing. There's something about women like her, Rihanna, even when they're not naked.

They just look incredible with clothes on. Did y'all see the video earlier this year of Hallie Berry in the bathroom when she was like making that thing? Yeah. Y'all saw that? Wink? No, I think of football. No, I didn't see it. Wink? Demaris.

Sorry. You didn't, you left her fill in the blank. I filled in the blank. Hallie Barry was making that thing bounce a little bit. No. But I didn't know Hallie. I didn't know her game. wasn't familiar with her game.

I don't know Hallie Berry had all that. Never saw Swordfish. I didn't know she had all of that back there. I didn't realize that. But yeah, that was the most amazing video of the year until Sierra dropped her video.

You know I consider future one of our forefathers, one of our kings, if you will. You lost, bro. I'm sorry. You could save my collection. You could do any song you want to make yourself feel better.

Oh. You took that loss. Yeah, yeah, this one. Hellie. I just wasn't familiar, baby. Hey, you can see the cuff too. It's not just the leg meat that she's shaking. It's there.

This is going to be a horny podcast. I'm sorry. We're giving flowers today. This is going to be a floral podcast. Sarah is also one of the best dancers of our generation as well. Definitely, without a doubt. She exuded the choreography. Without a doubt.

And whoever the director was, you know, I'd love to see what's on the cutting room floor. What didn't make the video? And I told you when I saw some outtakes. When I saw her at Missy's show in Chicago. You almost forget how many records Sierra has. Oh, of course. Like she has,

she has records. She's one of the best. She's one of the best entertainers probably in the last 15 years for sure. I can say I was entertained this weekend. Yeah. Very interesting. Thank you. Thank you for Sierra.

Before we get off the horny topics, I got into an argument with someone over the weekend that the Lori Harvey Playboy issue never came out because I feel like I would have saw the photos. I was like there's no way that that actually... Oh, yes. Okay. I was in fact wrong because we went and Googled it and boy, was it a fucking letdown.

Now I know why no one talked about it. Well, she wasn't... Just go do Vogue. Well, we spoke about it. We didn't think that she would be new. Well, no, was Sean... We went... We went through the photos and we, you thought that those were like prequels and I'm like, no, those are the photos. I thought that like, when the issue came out, she was

like at least like a little nipple slip in a tasteful way. Yeah, like a little... What the fuck was the point of this? Yeah, I mean. She looks incredible. Don't get me wrong. This is the horny talking. This is the post Sierra video and pre-nut clarity.

Like whatever the fuck you want to call it. I just don't know what the point was. I mean, it's still the Playboy brand. She has the bunny ears. She's just not showing any, you know, she's not revealing anything. I'm going to sound just like a horny insult. What is the point? Is the point of Playboy to be naked?

No, not everybody who poses for Playboy. I don't subscribe. I don't know. I just assumed. It's to be sexy. And she, like, for example, she's topless in that photo. sexy, but tasteless, but taste. She got racier shit on her

Instagram. Yeah, I feel what you saying. It's not. I have the right to be mad. God, you're white. I couldn't even take myself seriously there. I have the fucking right. Is it Americans be mad? You should go on the play with a website and leave like a, you know, like a little. A scathing review. Yeah,

like listen, man, I don't know where the brand is headed, but need to see more bush. Where's the bush? Yeah. Hugh Hapner did not spend seven decades sex trafficking women for something like this to come out. Yeah, the brand took a left turn somewhere. Now it's just like, you know. That's the Teflon Don right there.

Oh, Hugh? Oh, he got in and got out as a legend, didn't he? How? How did he make it through? Pay your taxes. White privilege. Pay your taxes. Pay your fare!

Jeffrey Epstein didn't make it through this motherfucker made it through. Well, he took it too far. Yeah, that's a difference. I don't think Hugh went that far. They may have been of age. Yeah. that makes all the difference from the world yeah there you go like there you go that's it the law the law the law the laws are fine with rape as long as they're

made no no no see don't do that i just want to take it there i just want to this is your podcast do you want it to end no we're not okay with that who said that who would say such a thing the conclusion of what you guys were saying no it's definitely not the conclusion we're saying um did you have been to the playboy mansion yes it was a party uh Who's party was it? I forgot whose party it was. You're like forced gum to me. I'm so jealous of the things that you'd experience.

Yeah. It was somebody's party. Somebody had a party at the Playboy Mansion one year when he was out in Cali. I can't remember what it was. But it wasn't, it was cool, but it wasn't, I guess, you know, kind of went in there with, you know, just, I don't know what I thought was. I thought people were going to be having sex as soon as you walked in. Yeah. That's what I would assume.

Naturally, but it wasn't that. It was a very cool, you know, party. It was, you know, it was a lot of women there, but it wasn't the, you know, the wild night that I thought it would be. Yeah. Same thing when I went to the puff one. Just me and Al Sharper. Yeah.

You snuck in that one. No baby oil. Yeah. Well, thank God I did. Now I'm not on the flight logs. Yeah. Thank God. Thank fucking God.

Yeah, you dodged the bullet with that one. Oh, man. They would have your email all kind of shit. You know what that? It's just Salt Bay and Al Sharpton that are going to go down in that rego. Exactly. Well, yes, it was a horny weekend for sure. I'm actually happy that Dreamville did not live stream

so I could put all my focus into Sierra. And I also did not get FOMO from Dreamville because they did not stream it because I feel like I would have had that. I saw a couple of clips floating around. I didn't see any performance. I did see that Cole brought Erica Badu up. Well, she was also one of the headliner.

Yeah, so I saw that. And I think I may have saw Cole sitting down performing some record. And I didn't see any other clips outside of that. I got a call from our, from, um, fail me. First she failed me. She said, yo, before I said, yo, when you meet Cole, like, tell him, you know, a, a, a, a, that's between us.

Okay. No, no. She said, yo, I'm going to put you. Translate that. She said, I'm going to put you as my screensaver on my phone so that if I get nervous, I don't forget. Like, I bet. Like, just call me when you get, when you meet him.

She called me, yo, I met him. Yo, he's fire. What the fuck? He's fire. What's that mean? I'm like, yo, he's still next to you? Like, she's like, nah, he left. Yo, what the fuck?

He's fired. His aura, his aura, he fired. He's a good aura. Yeah. Like, what? Y'all, he can piss me off. Wait, what you mean? She still blocked.

He does. I've spent a good amount of time with him. Yeah. All right, what's his aura, though? Because Jay Cole looked like he don't even care about aura. Like, he's the, that's the aura. He's the Adam Sandler of rap. He dresses.

He wears the way he dresses. It's laundry day every day for him. He don't give a fuck. He won't have. some jays on you got some good jays on but he don't care what he did like some clean ones and some baggy yeah he ain't he ain't gonna be you know i'm saying he ain't gonna put a bunch of labels on he ain't really that guy you know what I'm saying so he should want to play basketball but that's aura is that the aura I don't met a bunch of niggas with some fly ass clothes or be black is smoke no that's a fact

but you know but any guy walking down a block dressed as j cole that ain't jay cold the swag I don't see i don't see demara saying yo it's aura like you might say his odor before you say You ain't called saying I'm just saying it's Jay Cole So we get it we understand But it's like aura really No you're right If it was anyone else it would look like they stink

Yeah like cold on he's not He doesn't look like the prototypical rap star Yeah You know what I'm saying like and that's perfect Because when you first came out He tried to which you know rock nation Try to make him do that shit He kept a good watch on

You know he kept you know he had waves And you know he was trying to He was a little young Jay He was trying to like Put Bernice in her first video Yeah, like yeah, trailblazer. But now that he's, you know, he's built this brand and he's, you know, he's like, man, I don't care.

He's himself. Just put the fucking beat on and let me go crazy. Well, aura has nothing to do with the way that you're dressed or the way that your hair is styled. It's the energy that you exude when you walk in a room, how you make people feel like the emotions you draw to people. That's aura. How many rap stars have you met with good aura? Have you met many of them? Yeah, I met a few rappers with good aura.

A few. You don't met a lot of rappers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but everybody's not a rap star, though. Like, everybody's not a rap star, though. Like, everybody's not a rap star. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, it's a lot of rappers, but they know it's not a lot of rap stars. Like, you know the rap stars when they walk in the room. Well, I mean, that's where the industry was so wrong about the quote unquote big three. Like, we've heard Drake talk about Sylvia Rohn, didn't want to start. I was like, he doesn't have the if factor. He's not a star whatsoever. Cole, they said the same shit when Jay signed him. Like, that's not a rap star.

And now you look at the three rap stars are the ones that look like they're not stars. Kendrick didn't look like a star. I love that everyone was wrong about that shit because those three are fucking stars and redefine what that looks like. It's just a testament to good music just surpassing all of that. No matter what you look like,

what you dress like, you know, if your music is A1 and that's all that matters here. Like the first time I met Cole was in a studio. It was just like four of us. And the first thing he said to me was tell me about yourself.

Like he's just a good person. Like he has that type of Like, I was nobody. I was with Aristotle. We were trying to do the, um, crooked smile video. And he, I could have been nobody. I could have been Eris's, man's assistant, whatever the fuck it was. He was like, oh, tell me about yourself.

Like, who are you? That shit is good aura. Like, that's a good person in a studio that just focuses on everyone. Tell me about yourself. I think that's, oh. See, if I get that off, they're going to be like, oh, he's, he's an asshole. Tell me about yourself. What?

What? We're sitting in the same room. What's up, man? Where you from? Tell me a little bit about yourself. I've noticed that, though, maybe not a star quality per se but like very successful

people I've noticed do do that like you would think the stereotype would be that the CEO successful person be an asshole and not even focus on somebody mopping up like the first time I was ever in an elevator with Lior Cohen he said the same thing to me

who are you what do you do tell me about yourself successful people do that shit and that's good or a shit but they just want to know how broke you are that that too look at this peasant How can I exploit you for your work, sir? Oh, you do digital here?

Here's 10 other things that's not on your job description. 100%. That's how that goes. But not, Cole has a good aura. I didn't see too many. It is, man. Just say yelling, Cole has a good aura. It does.

I'm not saying that he does it. It's just funny. Like, they hear another guy say that. That's all. I saw Ebe talking about they brought Muhammad's crib to Raleigh, North Carolina. I went to Muhammad's crib to shoot with Cole. with Muhammad too. Like watching, that's a real authentic thing.

Yeah. Like Cole really paid off his mortgage for the rest of his life. Mahabin never needs a fucking thing for the rest of his life because he let Cole not pay his rent for five months because he was broke. Yeah. Like that aura shit is real. Yeah, no. Cole is a, he's a good guy, man.

You know, I gave him a lot of shit, a lot of hell last year, but that still doesn't mean that he's not a good guy. Of course. I believe he's a good guy. And I don't think like you would really define Cole's existence as a good human being. Yeah. Who am I? I don't think Cole is re-evaluating with his wife and kids like, damn, I don't know,

Maul doesn't really fucking my aura like that. No, I mean, Cole is a good guy, man. I just don't, you know, it's all good. It's all good. It's so good. Look what a year does. We're healing. No, listen, it's all good, man.

A year to the date, we are healing. Oh, God, please. Look at this Monday. Ma, do you think you have a good aura? Do you have a good aura? Do you think you have a good aura? I think I have a great aura. Okay.

Like, what color you think it is? My, like, my hue? Oh, I should have brought my aura photo today. I don't know, probably like a some variant of like a light green. You're talking about what you're wearing right now? No, this is like more of an olive, more of a navy green. You give me more of like a lavender aura.

Lavender? I like lavender. Green represents nurturing, compassion, and a deep connection to nature. It can also signify healing and growth. And Rory said he sees purple. Light green, connection to nature, the balance. I'm a Libra so balance is somewhere

in there. I didn't even know that. Look at how I'm giving it to y'all. That's all right there. When I don't even know my aura and I just can't fight fate. That's just what I'm trying to tell you. I'm like, come on, man. Tell me about yourself. I left out one part of the Lerreux conversation that fucking terrified me. A 6-6 Israeli man going, why do I need to know you?

I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know me. I don't even know me. Why do I need to? Which is such a brilliant question though. He didn't mean it like an asshole, but why should I know you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just people that just don't have small talk. That's like, get right to it. Like, yo, who are you? Like, tell me about yourself. Lior, I love you and I know you watch this podcast. Yeah, absolutely. Come on. He has everything. He has everything. Like, that's why I think Learkeh Cohen is successful. He has no filter of how he says anything. Yeah, no. Like,

that's a talent, though. Hell yeah. That's a talent. That's a skill. Yeah, especially to do that around fucking Eric B and get away with it? Yeah, yeah, that's a skill. That's a skill. Who are you? Tell me about yourself. in front of Supreme? Yeah. I feel like Lee or is go I feel like people

should go into first dates like that too though. Like fuck the small talk just like who are you? Why should I know you? What's wrong with you?

What would your ex say is wrong with you? Who would your mama say is wrong with you? Like let's like really get to it. Don't. Don't say that because if a guy sat down

on the first day that came at you like that you would get up. My answer's already prepared. I've been preparing them in the shower for years. I know all the answers to them questions.

You are sicker than I thought. You know, you've been preparing first date answers in your mind in the shower for years? What is wrong with you? You know, that's, that's manipulation. Yeah.

Because you're going to and knowing exactly what you're going to say. If you were applying for a job, that's how you practice for what you're going to say. You were rehearsalized. You don't approach a first date like a job. Why not? Because it's not a job. This can be for life.

This can be beneficial. And relationships are work. Yeah, I'm going to, I want to present my best self. I'm not lying. But I do want to think out my answer so that when I present them to you, you have the whole picture. I don't think that that's manipulative. Okay, so baby,

did give it to me? You on the first day. He said, he goes, why would I give you my sauce? I don't, I'm not going to, you think I'm about to take your sauce. You think you're going to go on the date and be like, yo, so how she said it? I'm not texting her under the table. Yeah, like your baby did what you said when you? What? You got an earpiece with D'amara? I'm just saying, so you on the first and he says, yo, so Dmeris, tell me more about yourself. Mm-hmm. I'm going to say, tell me about you first and then we'll get it to me.

That's manipulation. How is that manipulation? How is that manipulation? How is that manipulation? When somebody asks you a question and you answer it with a question, that might be manipulation one-on-one, actually. I'm going to tell you about me, right? But also, I am a public figure where there are a million and 18 clips of me talking about me. I want to hear about you. Yeah, so what if he don't watch this show?

That is truly narcissistic. How is that narcissistic? That's what I'm saying. To go on a first date, there's so much on YouTube, he should have done his research. That's not what I'm saying. So, baby, let's take that out. Let's take that off. to play. He's never seen the podcast, never seen the clip, which you prefer. Yes, you know that's

what I prefer. All right. So he doesn't know anything about. He just, he just thinks you're attractive and he wants to go on the date with you. And he's smart. Yeah, I mean, he wants to take you out. He rehearsed. Yeah. He wants to get to know you better. And he says, so, listen, baby Dee, I'm a financial investor. You know, I travel. I have a very busy schedule, very hectic. Is this gone? I'm glad that I finally got a chance to take you to dinner. You know, Listen, I'm newly divorced. I've been divorced for about a year and a half. That's Loyon.

I'm, I've been divorced about a year. Why are you cosplaying Loyon right? I've been divorced for like a year and a half. You know, I've been nervous about getting back in a dating pool. But here I am. So, you know, tell me a little bit about yourself and, you know, what type of woman you are? And what are you looking for? I hate those broad type of questions, but go ahead.

Why do you hate the bra? I mean, because there's a lot about me. I would say, well, what would you like to know? What about me would you like to know? Do you have a real pinky toe now? Yes, I do. Very long. Do it squirt.

I'm one of the... You said no small talk. He's getting right to it. Is it Bush? Loyan said that. I didn't say that. Yeah, but baby D. You practicing your answers.

You ain't give us an answer yet. If a man asks me do it squirt, I'm going to walk out the door and call the cops on my way out. You're missing your blessing. That's fine. You're not wasting time. Yeah, like he's getting right to it. He could change your life. No.

What you mean? I can, I'm going to tell you about my. my values, because if I tell you about my personality, my personality comes off differently to different people depending on their own view and perception of life. Okay, so what are some of your quality? My values are love family peace, love family peace and having fun, enjoying life. I think the purpose of life is to enjoy life. If you want to find a partner to enjoy life with, make sure it fits and make sure you're ready for love to be work. I think that love is work. And I think a lot of people go into relationships thinking that the person that they're with is supposed to make them

happy. And that's not it. You're supposed to find somebody to be happy with not to make you happy. That sounds rehearsed. How does that? First day, let's look. That sounds like that's something like that's something like that's something like that's something. And recorded and watched it back. Find some edits. That's fine. I'm prepared. I'm prepared. When niggas is ready to come take me off the streets, I'm prepared. Are y'all? Are you prepared for the rapture? Are you prepared for the rapture? Yeah, can't wait for that. Are you prepared for Jehovah's return? Jews are still waiting on their city.

It's coming. Oh, man. All right, we're on our first date, Cheesecake Factory. I let you do apps and main. You let me? Yeah. Brokey. Go ahead.

What would your ex say about you? My ex doesn't have a negative word to say about me. Can we get him on the phone and verify that? Yes, we can. One to get the ex. ex on the phone is crazy. My ex says I have a negative word to say about me. All of my exes wish me happy birthday.

Some of them even sent me money. My exes love me. I have said happy birthday to a lot of shitty people in my life. That's a fact. Nothing. I'm not the problem. Yo, that sound like the problem. How?

I'm not the problem. Never y'all say y'all not the problem? Y'all be the problem. Mall, you say you're not the problem all the time. I'm the problem. That's what I'm trying to tell you, baby, Dee. I am the problem. I'm accepted it.

In this main character syndrome I have, I'm noticing I'm the common denominator and everything not working out for me. Exactly. It's me. It starts with me. You really don't think your ex would have anything bad to say about you? No. If he followed out, I was on a date. He'd come up with something.

But if he went to God, if he went to God and had a serious conversation, he'd say, no, that thing's not. Clearly it didn't work out. So there must have been something that didn't work that they would say. You can not be compatible with somebody and not, that doesn't mean that there's something wrong with it. They could be the perfect person for someone else. she's amazing and avoiding. I would say my exes would probably say I'm a very good provider,

good support system, but a year in I'll probably shut down, get numb, and stop speaking to you. Yeah, like you're on. Like, I don't talk like I don't, that's not healthy. Childhood trauma will put me in a place of mental instability

and everything that was going great in this relationship, I will make sure does not continue that way. Okay. Did the psychic tell you about that? Did she point out? No, no, no, no. That was me in the mirror rehearsing.

I mean, what you know? That was your monologue? That was your monologue? Yes. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I would say that.

I would say all my ex would say he's a very good person. Like he has a very good heart. It means well in everything that he does, but he makes horrible decisions often. Okay. Especially when it comes to emotional support and, emotional decisions. Okay. Okay.

I would say that. I think that's fair. I would never say it on the first date because that woman would run away. Yeah. I'd rather waste a year of her life and let her find out on her own. Oh.

God. Strang along for a year. Got a string along. That's awful. This is a great time. We had a great year. Oh yeah. Great year.

You always look back on him like he was a great guy. Yeah, I had a great year and now it's going to take me two years to heal. It's going to take me double the amount of time we dated to heal from the bullshit you did when we were together. How long do it take you to hell? You like Wolverine? To heal?

Yeah. I didn't rehearse that answer. Got it. I knew I got it. It depends. How long as it take you to heal? It depends. Because sometimes you think you've healed and all you just haven't been triggered.

You've been alone so nothing has triggered you. And then you get in a relationship. You're like, oh, I actually didn't heal from that. You didn't solve your issues. You avoided them. Yeah. Out of sight, out of mind until they're in sight. And it's like, oh, I never made any conclusion or closure.

with this situation. Yeah. Okay. I don't think I'm ever healed. I think I'm like Harvey Dent with the burnt face still flipping the coin. Like there's no, clinically you should not be alive. Yeah. That's me.

I don't know if healing is a, it's like a destination. Mm, a journey. What does healed mean? I think heal is, because healing is like, healing to me is like, like, when you lose like somebody like that you're really close with. Mm. Right. like somebody passes away

over time you know you don't think about the person as much it goes like from every day you know person that's really close you lose the person think about them every day until you live next to a graveyard and they're buried there and when you open your bedroom well that's yeah you have to stare at their grave right now you want to move out of your house that's yeah that's

I'm sorry was that too personal yeah that's just trauma looking at crack every morning but it's it's you know fucking eat where I live now if it's not that you start to you live with it and it's like you still hurt you still you're still like a pain there but it's not as raw and as as as painful as it used to be yeah you just get used to it it doesn't get better you so i think that's what it is with relationships when you go through relationship go through a tough breakup um you miss that purse even in friendships like i've i've noticed it took me a while to notice that a lot of the friendships i had i didn't realize how much it

affected me that me and some of those dudes don't speak anymore yeah like i never really addressed that mentally but I realized it I was like damn like it's crazy you can be with somebody every day for years and then one day y'all just don't speak at all for whatever reason and it's like you don't realize that damn like that shit is kind of

it's a little it's a little trauma there too you know what I'm saying it's like because it was a relationship it was a friendship it was a lot of you know personal things there and then now you and that person for whatever reason just don't speak or whatever depending on how it fell out if it's like a situation that happened where it's like man

fuck him or whatever, then that's cool. I'm talking about the relationships where you don't even really realize like, yo, what happened? Like, why being this? Yeah. Why we don't speak? That's what. The grieving the friendship stuff, I think is sometimes tougher because usually relationships break up for like a specific reason.

Yeah. Even if it's been tagging along. There's one thing that you can point to like this was the day shit really split. A lot of friendships just fade off because of life. And that you don't have any real reason so it hurts probably even more. Because you can look like that person cheated on me, so we're done. Like it sucks. You can point to it.

You know where it's that. You can identify it. But some friendships, that shit, you can't even figure that shit out. But I think a lot of the friendships that have, well, I know for me personally, I found out a lot of the friendships I thought I had the reasons why we don't speak in. Because sometimes people feel like you may have heard what they be saying about you. You get what I'm saying? Like, oh, damn, I think he might have, he might have got word. I mean kicking his back in talking shit.

People start talking. People act guilty. It's the same thing in relationships. You can always tell when somebody is cheating on you because they just, you're like, why you're like, why you're like, why you? you act like you acting weird like because you're afraid that I know some shit so you're acting guilty it's the same thing with friendship I got that off on a girl one time she was acting like that and I said yo just go be with him you ain't got to act like this I just said that and she did look like she gave me a look like she was wait she was just wait for me to say yeah I went

through your phone like she was waiting for him like you ain't got to we got to go you you going crazy you've been on your attitude been crazy the last four or five days I'm like yo like you can go be with homie like it's all good like I'm not you're not just go be with homie like it's all good like I'm I'm not, you know, my tripping. You could see her aura. And she gave me a look like, what, what you mean? Like, who? Oh, she guilty as the fuck.

What you mean is funny after that. What do you mean? What do you mean? Just go be with. She was trying to buy time for her rehearsed answer. Exactly. What'd you say? No, you heard me.

Think back to the deep condition, the deep condition. I've definitely been like that where it's like, you, you being so mean to me. Like, if you're in love with her, just go be with her and stop being mean to me. Like, you got to, because now every time you talk to me, I feel like you like, you ain't this bitch. So just please go be with whoever that bitch is. please and leave me alone. Yeah.

What's worse? Is that or when they're doing that and they, they, they come home happy? Like, what you're so happy for? Oh. That shit might be worse. Oh, they cheezer? Yeah. Why are you all giggling in this fuck?

You never giggly. You know why. He's just Zelda. He just Zelda. Oh, I mean. Yeah. That's fine. I thought it was just blew her back out.

That's fine. That's worse. That's worse. Take some of that Zell money and pay someone's rent. Nah. Hell, nah. That's what a nigger's sitting in your girl. bread?

Don't put no food on my table, though. Don't put no food on my table. You can't let another man put bread on your table, bro. Remember in dead presidents when he comes home, he bringing the groceries up and the pimp? Oh, yeah, that's a classic scene. Are you kidding me? I get it.

I get it. Like, come on, man. That's a classic scene. I get his outbursts in the courtroom. Yeah, man. He was suppressing so much for him taking care of his daughter and his wife. When he was at war. He just went forth for this country.

can't get a job, broke. He don't know if the baby is his. Like, that movie is crazy. Yo, Dead Presidents is a complete classic movie. Oh, it's one of the most well-red movies. Top the bottom of a classic movie. Fair.

And even the way he played. What's the actor's name again? Dorence tape. No, the guy that played the pimp. Oh, uh. He's fucking brilliant. That's Pinky. I'm calling Pinky from Friday.

I don't know his name. He, yo, imagine you back for more, bringing the groceries up to your wife and kid, and you see the pimp. There's only but two apartments. You know what apartment you're coming from. Must feel good bringing the groceries Back home for your family

Yeah, I was doing that for the last two years When he was at the war Oh my God No, we're all dying Clifton Powell, the legend Clifton Powell. He's an incredible actor Yeah Dead Presidents is criminally underrated

As far as one of my favorite movies It's like all those movies that try to do Way too much with different plots End up sucking There's like 15 different plots in that movie And it's a war movie and a Bronx movie At the same time Ma, I'm here to talk to you

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We got to give Lorenz Tate his flowers, man. Lorenz Tate got a lot of classic movies under his boat. I mean, he would be, he would make my, Top 20 actors? Top 20. He might be high on a list in top 20 for me. As far as like classic movies.

He got. Love Jones. Love Jones. Dead presidents. Shit. I'm going, I'm going Inquil. Inkwell is a classic to me. Don't he played O'Dog.

Like, Menace Society. Like, he got some fucking movies under his belt. He played Eric Adams before Eric Adams of Power. That's a fact. His Ray Powell was crazy. Yeah, man. Yeah, oh, he was good in Ray too. Oh, fucking crash.

Crash. Crash. Yes, crash is a classic. He killed the Quincy Jones role in Ray. Like, Lorenz Tate, you got to, people got to put more respect on Lorenz Tate, man. Lorenz Tate is a legendary actor, man. Legendary. And never was like typecasted.

It's crazy that his, where he got introduced was O Dogg and didn't stay as the fucking gangbanger for the next 20 years in the movie. Yeah. He could play in a role. He got out of that box. Yeah, he even played the bass player in Girls Trip. Yeah, man. With the backstage passes. Yeah, man.

Shout out of Lurice Tate, man. We give him flowers today. Fuck that. Shout out of his tape. Oh, he was in South Central, too? What role was he in South Central? South Central. He was in South Central?

I don't remember. It was a smaller role. In South Central? No way. Andre Mosley? Who did he play in South Central? What South Central? As you might be watched.

I'm talking to OG, Triple OG, Bobby Johnson. He was in South Central. I don't remember. Oh, all right. Yeah, I'm about to say it wasn't the movie. I'm just looking at Wikipedia says South Central. It wasn't the movie. It definitely wasn't the movie.

Nah, I would have to remember that? You kidding me? Yo, some of the writing in South Central, go revisit the movie South Central if you want a good laugh. Like, strip the legendary part of it. It's some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard my fucking life. What was his son's name again? Ray Ray.

Yeah, but what was his gang name when OG Bobby Johnson comes back out and talks to the other little. kids. Yeah, we're going to get some get back for Ray Re's. I forgot. I don't know. I remember what this gang name was. That's a classic movie, though. Of course. That's a classic movie. You ever stole the radio? Not

out of a car. Oh, okay. Trying to see how old you were. I got somebody's crib, yeah. Trying to see how old you were is so funny. You think I was breaking in cars, right? Yeah. I used breaking the cars. For real? You used to break into cars? Yeah, and take what? Whatever was in there? That's crazy.

Like, how do you break the one and you had like I wasn't the leader. I mean, Corr was the one that told me how to do it. But I was the, I don't know if he wanted to put in his business. I'll do like that? No, he's a Republican. Okay. No worry.

He's one of us. He's fine. My mom sent me his Facebook the other day. It was like, your Mexican friend loves Trump. I was like, yeah, they love him. I swear to God. Yo, so wait. My mom updates me more with some of my childhood friends because she's on Facebook than I even.

Oh, my God. My mom, my sister, they're going to update me on everything that's going on the Facebook. Like, I don't even remember. Corlis in this podcast, you know. Well, shout out to the... Me and him and milk used to break in the cars. Shout out to Harmono Coors. Cors?

Cored. Cored. Cod. Cod. Cod. Got it. Like a plug in. Did he get that street name when he used to rip the cords out of the...

No, his name was Cordell. I thought that was from when he was trying to start the car. Listen, he was a Mexican with blue eyes and looked white. Like, he's crushing it. Oh, okay. Gringo. Yeah, for sure. Okay, got you.

Yeah, he moved out here because his dad... He was from Tucson. He moved out here when he was 13. Of course he's from Arizona. Because his dad went to jail for smuggling in people from Mexico. So I'm not making any of this. All right. And he went to live with his grandparents out here.

I swear to God. One of my best friends. taught me every criminal thing I knew. That's why they're trying to clean the country up because cords. Hey. We was bringing the cars. What? Cords came ahead.

It taught this. We didn't need anything. An upstanding white citizen how to break in the cars. We didn't need anything. Nobody was hungry. Yeah. No, he was bored. We just did dumb shit.

We was literally bored. Doing dumb shit, man. He's going to be so mad at me. Now, shout out to chords. Yeah, he's doing well. He's on Trump's campaign. Where, where we're, Lorenz Tate. Shout out to Lorenz Tate.

We're giving us flowers, man. Legendary actor, man. We should try to reach out and see if he can come on the pod. We have to have Omar Epps on the pod. I don't know why we haven't had him on the pod. Yeah, man. Oh, he knows. He listens.

He's a fan. Yeah, no. So I speak to him often, man. We taping with each other. and he just called and, you know, check in on me and, you know, we kick it and shit like that. But we definitely going to make it happen. It's just a schedule.

I know I think he's filming some shit now. Something he's directed. I think he's directing a movie right now or a series. But when, you know, when the time permits, we definitely go sit down with Omar. Shout out to Omar Epps, another legendary actor. New York City. Do they have any movies?

They have to have at least one. Lorenz Tate and Omar Epps? Did they ever? I watched the movie Sixth Man for the first time, Marlon Wayne's. Classic. Kadeem Hardison? I still have that on VHS.

You do? I had never seen it. It's on Amazon Prime. I'm watching that shit tonight. I ran that movie into the ground. I loved that movie. Yeah. Really?

Yeah. I mean, I was a kid. I think that shit ass. You were like, you were like 30 when it came out. I was fucking. It was cool. It was cool. I don't know if I ran it to the ground, but it was cool.

I'm more of a senseless. Which, Malway is a senseless when he was on campus in college and he lost all his, Oh, yeah. With David, with David Spade, yeah, yeah. I forgot all about this movie. Jesus Christ. Another legendary movie right there.

Yo, you put, Paul, you pull that one out of your ass. Y'all remember senseless? Y'all got to remember. I'm showing my age. I got to remember senseless. I don't think I've watched it since 98. Yeah, classic movie, man. Speaking of the Wayans, when we left the podcast on Thursday,

me and DeMaris were on the train and saw which Wayne's brother was that? that freaky-ass clip I'm looking at their family a little different It wasn't Damon? It was the oldest one It was Damon. It was the oldest one.

It wasn't Keenan is the oldest. It wasn't Keenan. It was Damon. Saying he dated one of his nephews exes. Can we pull that clip up? That shit was nasty. Like, I'm looking at my wife and kids

in a whole different light right now. Damon said he did what? He dated a woman that he knew his nephew had fucked. And he was like, let's just keep it in the family. And he wasn't joking.

Can we please pull up this clip? Yeah. Yeah, it was on Club Shay-Shay, our label mate, you know, our murder in to our Rockefeller. So I feel like this is our clip, too. Mm-hmm. Hey, yo, Josh, why have we not been on Club Shay, Shay, man? We got to talk to the volume.

But yeah, play this. Hold on. This can't be true, that you dated the same woman as your nephew once. Yeah. I was in love with her. That's the thing. Come on, you ain't never did.

Hell, I ain't never did it. Jackson, five. I mean, for a family member, that's our limits, Damon. No, but it wasn't like they were in love. So, he dated her. Do you know how small the pool is out here in Cali? It's not that. Yes.

The dating pool. Like, and this was probably, what, 2001, two. Did you know originally? Did she know originally that? Yes, when I met it, I got divorced. and I was by myself for two years. Right. And then I saw her and I was just like, oh, my God, I'm in love.

And then I found out my nephew had dated. I'm like, you know, what's up with that? He goes, oh, that's you. I was like, okay, past the Kabasci. And I went ahead and I fell in love. And it was okay. But it's just. They clowned you, didn't it?

Yeah, family gatherings is awkward. Yeah. I don't know about that one day, but I'm at a matter. And I love how normal he's talking about this. Wait, y'all didn't fuck y'all. Y'all nephews girls? And she cooked? She went to card on blue?

What? Dessert. Come on. Oh, man. I might have to think about it. And then the other things. While she cooked. Listen, man, I mean.

You come from a big family. Yes. you're the only one that could probably speak to this scenario i've never dated anybody that any of my nephews dated i can promise you that never happened you got nephews that's like your age it could happen well not my age but i got nephews of age for sure um but nah i've i've never i mean i don't don't know not knowing i'll be surprised that some of the girls that my nephews probably know but nah i mean i've seen girls that or some of my nephew eight i got nephews in their 30s.

But I see some girls that they know and I'm like, yo, who that? They're like, I know, I went to school with her. You know, she, I'm so, okay. But they didn't never like trans-prided into anything. But no, I never, I don't think I, I don't know if I could do that. I don't know if I could date somebody that my nephews dated. I don't know if I could do that.

Yeah, that shit would freak me up. It's just a little weird. It's just a little too. The, it's really not comparable whatsoever. but the closest that that ever came was when I found out that Kia's roommate in college was Guru's daughter and I told

Guru he's like yeah though we 20 years difference I know we were friends but I'm 20 years older than you. I was like oh yeah I guess that makes it because that shit freaked me out yeah he was like yeah my roommate he was like some famous producer engineer like guru or something I was like

one of my one of my closest friends she just threw a guru name out there like He does something. I don't know. I think he plays with the buttons on the board a little bit. Remember when we did Made in America when we did the interviews and shit? Remember Kia came down with us?

She got her rock nation riser wristband when we didn't even get one. She was with Guru's daughter. Oh, okay. I was like, how you get the credentials I couldn't get and I'm working here. Yeah, nah. That's from go. Yeah. Straight from goo.

Straight from goo. That's college roommate, America University shit. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. That shit is super weird. What's that movie since we're on movie shit? With Dane Cook and Steve Carell. Underrated movie.

Dane Cook and Steve Carell. Why do I know it? Dan in real life. Underrated movie. He goes to like a family reunion, meets a chick. Like downtown before he gets to the crib, they hit it off. And then he gets to the reunion. And it's his brother's girl.

And then they have to like, you know, get through that whole weird maze. I don't know if I ever seen this. Good one. So his brother girl was flirting with... Yeah, she just happened to be at like a cafe or some shit. So she's cheating on her brother, basically. Yes. Okay.

On his brother, cheating on his brother. With the brother. Got you. I'm going to check that out. I mean, shit, maybe it happens more than we know. Now, but he knew. He was well aware and he went and fucked on that girl knowing that his nephew had ties with her. Yeah, but his nephew was like, yo, it wasn't really like that.

We dated. It wasn't like, you know, we looked up a couple times. Like, you know. People would call that mature. I'm not that mature. No. If my family member beat, even if it was just like nothing meant nothing. No, I'm not, I'm not dating that person. Yeah, that's a little. I'm not. My nephew. And then falling in love and bringing her.

That's the thing. It's the power dynamic. My nephew. Yeah, my nephew is like, look at her range. Look how she, she, offense and defense. Like, the way he was trying to make it sound ill when she was cooking and sucking dick and all that. Like, his nephew could be like, yeah, no, I know. Like, you're not flexing me. Yeah, your nephew gave you one of these. Like, y'all know, um. You know, saying Pastor Cavassier about a girl you love is nuts. Sick. That's the L.A.

He said he was divorced, you know, trying to, you know, trying to heal. That's not healing. I mean, when he got, he was divorced, he felt like he was healing, you know, get a little young girl and have fun and, you know, live that little moment, that lifestyle. But, you know. Which nephew, though? I mean, with that. Famous one? That family is.

There's a million of them. Yeah, ain't no telling with them, man. Who's the one that was in a let's be cops? He's very funny. he's the kid of one of the Wayne brothers that might be Damon son is that Damon's son I'm about I say it might be his son

that's the only famous son I think though so you let your civilian nephew fuck your girl nah this is a well he probably has had the most reoccurring roles in films and shows than any of the other nephews

but most of the nephews have done some type of acting I think how do you feel about that statement that the L.A. famous pool is there's not enough options I mean, it is small. I mean, the more famous you are, obviously, you know, the higher up you go, the room gets a little smaller.

So, you know, you're going to come across some people that have had some type of relations or passing with people that you know because, again, the circle gets smaller, the higher you get. No, I get it. I mean, anytime I'll click a stranger's IG and just go to see what mutuals are. I'm like, how the fuck they know this person is like, I get that. Yeah. But I still feel like in Los Angeles as a way and you can go find a girl that your nephew hasn't fucked. I mean, yes, you can. Go to the grove.

Just fucking go grocery shopping. I mean, you definitely can. But, you know, it's also right there. It's like, okay, we're hanging out at the same events, same restaurants, same places. You know, you're going to come across some people that know people that you know. I understand. Imagine trying to introduce your girl. to your mom and your mom goes, yeah, no, I already met her.

Your nephew brought her last Thanksgiving. Well, she was a cordon blue chef. I'm just, I mean, hey, listen. Chef. What if your mom already has, like, a nickname for her and everything? Like, they have chemistry and you just find it up. And we know, you know, we know Mama Wayne's got jokes, so I would love to know how she was getting her shit off at that time.

But they're also from the projects, and that's some project-y shit. Project-y? What is project-y shit? No, that's rich people shit. Yeah, that's rich people shit. that's rich people shit that's big family shit that's all

this is a big family shit the size of housing projects in New York City the fucks don't leave the three buildings in that vicinity their families are definitely

overlapping when people fucking in the projects that's some project these shit that's not some Hollywood they got that from Chelsea houses they didn't get that

from Hollywood they brought that to Hollywood they bought that mentality 100% well I mean listen man love is love shout out to

De Wayans family I'm still you know on my bucket list is, you know, sitting down and having a conversation with one of my, one of my idols, Keen and Ivy Wains, man. Oh, that would be incredible. Yeah, that's still on my bucket list. I want to be in one of their movies.

So if y'all are looking for an extra, hit me. They're always looking for extra. You can just walk past the shot. Oh, you mean, you want like a role. Yeah. Oh, you said extra. I thought you wanted to just walk past, just walk past, you just said extra. That's not like, that's not, she didn't say she wanted to be like cast it with a role.

She doesn't want to be the SVU episode. She wants to be, have a real role. She said she wants to, she said the extras. I would take the dead girl in the SVU role. What angle y'all got me posed at, though? Like, get a good angle. How did you die, though? Because you know SVU has some wild-d-dict.

It's a terrible gruesome death. Like, that's fine. But, like, if y'all got to have me strung out naked with blood leaking from in between my legs, like, is it a good angle? Yeah, what's the good angle that would be if you got to lay on your back? Figure four. Oh, I got to be on my back. Usually people die in their stomach.

We're talking about your dad. We're not talking about, like, your favorite position. She said figure four on my back. Well, you know, embarrassed, calm. Special victims unit. Like, what's up with her? This is not a nice death. Like, figure four.

Like, yo, calm down. Victims are always laying. They're usually on their stomachs when they found them. Then they lift the hair up and be like, yeah, that's her. Yeah, every time. It's ICE. Every time. Yeah, that's him.

I got news for you. She's dead. Yeah, that's him. That means you're gay. Yo, please. No, I mean, all right have you guys ever watched SVU and the more

you learn about the dead girl start the victim blame a little bit good boy we tell them how she shouldn't know what that short dress she starts out as an angel and like as the episode goes she becomes more of a drug addict like nah she shouldn't have been around those people well yeah

definitely deserves to be raped and killed for that not necessarily raped and killed but you did put yourself in that situation like why did you go to the parking garage with the drug addict. With that dress on. That's all I'm saying.

You gotta say it. You landed. Go ahead, man. Fucking landed. No, we're just gonna circle around the airport. Yeah, you're gonna run out of gas and get this fucking podcast canceled. Jesus Christ.

Anyways. What was on the list? Wayne's brothers fucking everybody. The fuck is that? We got a ghost. Oh, the tracks can. Why I was just saying, oh, the trap. What did the track?

Who knocked the? It's the lid. The lid. The lid. All right. Well, the wayans are fucking everybody. Usher once again. Did she divorce again?

Usher is ruining everyone's relationship. Well, Usher is on tour currently in Europe, I believe. Oh, they all swing out there. And, you know, he's doing his, you know, going around feeding women cherries. So he saw he met his match with one of them chicks. Yeah. She was turning me. I'm telling you, it was a horny weekend for me.

She flipped this shit and went to drop it in his mouth that he thought about it. He thought about it. Yo, Usher has a lot of self-control. We have to give him that. Because the way that girl was looking, not this one. This was the divorce one. That, what would be? YG.

Yeah. How'd you know where I was going? Yeah. That little baddie, that little YG, I would have made out with her in front of that whole stadium. See, this is why she was moving. And this is why you'll never sell out of the stadium. 100%.

Because you get canceled the first night. Can't make out with people in the crowd. Yes, you can. No, you cannot. Yes, you can. Well, he's a mono. warrior. That's what he does anyway. Like he just kissed women and that he just met. Mano.

Well, she was... I have the antibody, so I can't get Mano, but... She was... Oh, no. No, she caught... This girl caught the Holy Ghost. Or a nut. Same thing. Look at the white woman back with the phone. Creaming in your dress at an Usher show is fucking... Is what? I'm ran, because what the

fuck you... He's doing all that. What you think he's quivering? What he doing? He's just standing there. It's a shit. Some nigg's got that aura. Usher has that aura. He got that aura. He got that aura. I don't know if you're supposed to just back her up when she said it. What aura are you talking about? I would have quivered with my roller skates on in Vegas.

Oh. Whoa. Y. Groy definitely would ask for a cherry. Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. Yo, that is crazy. You don't think Usher's an attractive, man?

What are you asking me right now, don't? Hell, you. Do I think ladies like... Your generation is... Do I think women... So scared of feelings. No, do I think women find Usher attractive? Yes.

Do I think Usher's talented? Do I see how women like him? Absolutely. You can fully understand why a church woman would quiver and cream in her dress because of Usher's aura. Face, performing, song. Superstar. Absolutely.

I get it. You got it bad. It's me what? That's what's up. Roy, you don't, you know, you don't have to, like, go gay for this podcast to, like, make it to the next level. Like, I feel like there's other, like, steps.

I didn't need the podcast to do that. See? But then when I be wanting to joke about shit, y'all get mad at me. All right. All right, fuck it, man. Fuck it. Now, go ahead.

No, actually, while we're here, I think we did something good today with our socials. What do we do? We crossed the threshold. We went to Red Pill. we allowed gay to be in one of our social clips. It was nervous all morning. I mean, come on, man.

You know, free speech is back. It's okay now. Everybody's settling. You encored. What? I will say, though, off that clip, there is nothing gayer than getting on the path train to go see Ryan Love. Oh, yeah, that's some of the gayest stuff you'll ever do with like, yeah.

So you don't think I'd twist the cherry for Usher? I mean, I hope not. Or pop my cherry. What do you think I'm going to do if I ever turn on the TV or I'm on my phone and I see, a video of you at an Usher concert and your mouth is open and Usher's dropping chair. Do you think that this podcast continues? Yeah.

I actually think all of our financial goals are met. Everything that we have on our vision board is met immediately. Let me tell you something. Whatever day we do back... Matter of fact, you should face on me and thank me for what I just did with this podcast. Whatever day we do back after you do that, I will not be in this chair.

Just know that. No way. He let Usher put a chair in his mouth. Are you kidding me? I might stop talking to worry if I see him letting a habachi chef throw a shrimp in his mouth. Well, first of all, I have morals and boundaries. That's not happening. I don't even like when they do the choo-choo train.

That makes me uncomfortable. So you don't let them squirt the sake in your mouth with the little dude. You know, it's always the one that's peeing. You don't let them squirt the sake? Usher is the only one. I swallowed the whole bottle one time. What? How drunk were you?

Of the sake. fucked up. I was actually, yeah. Yeah, but what you'd be going through, like, before you do shit like that? Like, what would be going on in your life where you be like, I'm going to Habachi and I'm waiting for him to just squirt the whole bottle of stock. I just wanted a little bit, but he was like taunting me. But yeah, you have to, if you was kept going, you had to swallow with your mouth open. Allegedly, I could close my mouth and then, you know, just, you know, I said I was going to be

more mysterious. I'm going to stop talking now. Because I hear, I hear the shit coming out my mouth sounded freaky and I'm trying to, like, stop myself, but there's no way to clean it up. And I sign myself about that. It's just, it's okay. You can get freaky at Tabachi. I mean, you guys, everyone in this room knows I'm retarded and slow and have learning disabilities. Mm-hmm.

Would you guys be surprised that I didn't think through bringing Amara to Habachi and that maybe a baby shouldn't be near a hot grill? No, I see babies at Habachi all the time. Yeah. She tried to crawl right on that fucking grill. How close did you have her to the table? She's supposed to be like back here. I'm VIP of Benihonis.

What are you talking about? Ah. Shout out to Benihana's. White parents let their kids do anything. True. Amar probably was climbing on everything. Black parents, you know, they give us that... They give us that hard little, you know, high chair.

Once we sit in there, we don't move. I'm liberal. Yeah. She has the same seat as us? Yeah, what they do. Yeah. Put the ass in the high chair. Sit your ass down.

Dog, I took Amara to paint pottery this weekend. I just need to, like, stop bringing my child places at this point. I watched Amara ruin everyone Saturday by literally just grabbing all the pottery and throwing it on the ground, painting over people's shit. I'm an awful parent. I got nothing at this point.

I'm just sitting there looking like, sorry. I don't know what to do. Oh, see, people like you get cussed out. I cannot. Oh, if this was reversed, I'd be cussing me out too. Like control your fucking kid. I'm just sitting there. I'm sorry.

Not even saying, I'm sorry. I'm just mouthing. I'm sorry. Nibble, why you didn't like? I try. She's quick. Take her home. I tried.

Take her home. Take her home. But your baby's drunk, sir. Take her home. Get out of it. We tried to walk to the car and all she's doing is screaming at every pedestrian. Who is that? Who are you?

I'm like. I like kids like that, though. I like talking of kids, though. I don't mind that. I don't like bad kids, though. Bad kids, like grabbing shit, breaking shit. I don't like that. But a talkative kid that I just start talking to you, like walking down the street, I love that.

Yeah. No, because I told you guys when she was going through her, when she learned the word owl and would just say out all the time and it would seem like I was harming my child. Yeah. We got past that. Now she learned the word help. So she just screams help at the top of her lungs when nothing is wrong and I'm just sitting there like, you can't

tell by the hair, definitely my kid. Yeah, I'm the daddy. Keel on the other hand. Yeah, she's going to have a hard time. Looks like the nanny in the kidnapper. She's going to have a hard time. Just screaming help. Yeah. Yeah. It was a rough weekend. But I mean, she's a great artist. People in general need to be better at, like, having just control of their kids.

And I can't talk because my God kids were on a plane this weekend acting a complete ass, not sitting in their seats, shouting everything because they mama just let them do anything. But kids on planes running around, that's a safety hazard, why they seatbel's not on, why they flying around during turbulence. Like, I, you control your kids, bro. Yeah, like, if you're going to be on a flight, control your kids, man. I will say, I mean, outside of the pottery experience over the weekend, you know, I travel. with Amara a lot when she was young.

She was always fine on the planes, and I was always terrified because I didn't want to be that guy. Because kids piss me off in the plane all the time. Like, can you just tell your kid to shut the fuck up, please? It's not that. Because kids are going to be loud. Kids are going to make, but when the parent is not doing anything, they're kind of like, if it's like a kid that's hitting the seat in front of them or, you know, it's like,

we expect the kids to be kids, but like parents got to be parents too. And that's the part that I'm not annoyed with the kids. I'm not annoyed with the kids. I'm not trying to do anything to control the kid. That's me. I'm never mad at a kid yelling and making, that's kid stuff. But like if your kid is like banging on seats and it's like, all right, fan, we try not to have a combative thing here with the adult.

But come on, get your control your kid. Well, as a new parent, I don't do a lot of research. And this is a learning on the go type of thing. When I used to take Basley on flights, the vet would give me like a drug that would like damn near not. bays out for the flights. I asked Amar's pediatrician if there was something similar for children. And I'm no longer allowed at NYU. Benadryo? How can I knock my child out for this five-hour flight?

Benadro. A little bit of melatonin. Yeah, Benadroro is always the... You can't give a kid's melatonin. They have baby melatonin. Where? You weren't aware of that? Yeah, they have baby melatonin. Where do you think these bags under my eyes came from? Well, I could just... Yeah, baby melatonin, just bite the adult one and half. No, they have it. Like they make it for kids. Or do what my mom didn't.

Just put rum on my gums and, you know, which is fine. To a future alcoholic. Exactly. Yeah. Yo, they really did that to us. Yeah. My mom, she did that,

I think it was like rum and vanilla extract when I was like teething. Like rubbing on my gums. That's like, you know, old school shit. Bourbon. Like, people do that to their children. That's insane. I don't think that that's insane. Rubbing bourbon on your baby's gums is not insane.

I wouldn't recommend it, but I don't think it's insane. I think knockout bottles are way more dangerous. What's a knockout bottle? Why didn't you tell me this? You don't need to be feeding that baby a knockout bottle. A knockout bottle is basically putting cereal. That's the scotch and a casinos that you mix together.

The scotch and megos putting cereal in a baby's bottle. And it's called a knockout bottle because when you make a baby that full, you basically give them theitis. They don't wake up in the middle of the night. But you should not be giving infants cereal before they're ready because there's a good chance that they can aspirate in their sleep. But yeah, that was definitely a thing back in black households to call a knockout bottle, cereal and baby bottles. Like the baby cereal in the bottles. Are you crushing up the cereal so they can drink it? I'm confused.

No, baby cereal, like baby cereal in the baby bottle. Captain crunching that shit. I was like, how, wait, all right, so how does the cabin crunch get through the nipple thing? Roy is going to buy some oops, all berries and be at home. Go grind them. Baby my fault cut up. Yeah. Like, what's you doing?

No, man, baby cereal. Thinking a razor and just the recent pieces. Yeah, like you cutting crack. Like, you're cutting crunch and the pan. He and the crib cutting crunch and berries like it's cracked. No, man, baby cereal, dog. Jesus Christ, worry, get it together, man. No, I'm thinking like, what sugary cereal would, like, put a kid down?

No, baby cereal. Yeah, no, that's, yeah, fill a baby up, get a milk drunk. Mm-hmm. I guess. What other icks do y'all have on planes? Well, Michelle Williams, she posted about, being on the flight and somebody had their foot now this has happened to me it wasn't a barefoot it was like socks person that socks on but um somebody had a barefoot uh on the side you know

guess the window seat that she had guys sitting behind her and he had his foot against the window and um didn't have any socks on now i don't know if this is real or if this is you know what you think michel just just lying you got a question that you got to question everything days, man. Everything is... Not Michelle Williams. Not somebody with some of the greatest runs we've ever heard in our time. And I'm just saying, you know, you know, she might, she might know the person. You know, that's all. She travels with a, with a team, I'm assuming. She says, I promise you would get your foot from me. She's so Southern.

No, I would seriously, like, wake them up. I would elbow their foot. No, you got to do what I did. Pour some water on their feet. It's a good move, too. Yeah, just get a little, you know, a little bottle of water that they put in your seat that you never want to do. But you might activate the funk if you do that. You ever put something wet on something stank and it activate the funk. Yeah, but you're not going to keep your foot right here, though. We're going to move this foot, though. By any means, this foot has to move.

I'm putting juice or gingerillo. Something that's got to be sticky. Like, I'm ruining the rest of your flight since you wanted to put your big toe near me. Or you just like lean all the way with like your elbow and just push into their foot. And like, oh, my bad. I didn't know, you know what I'm saying. I'm acting like, you know, this is my elbow spaces. I'm going to be using this the whole flight, move your fucking foot. It's that when their feet come up here. And also when you're in that weird place where the windows don't match up with every single seat

and now we have to figure out if this is my window or your window because I'm going to sleep and this shit is going down like I'm reaching back I don't care if it's halfway yours this is going down that's enough but the airports are just dirt like I don't understand people that travel with like their feet out like with sandals and flip-flip-file I don't understand that I don't understand people that travel in shorts let alone your feet out crazy to me

nobody wants to see your thighs on a fucking plane No, but planes are cold. That's why I don't understand people that travel with shorts. I'm like, it don't matter if you fly into the Bahamas and it's 92 degrees when you land. Put on some light sweatpants, a t-shirt and a hoodie on the flight. When you land, take the hoodie off. Like, you're just going to the resort or wherever you're going. Like, you're not going to be that hot, so you need to have your feet out.

Like, it's not, I still don't understand how people have their feet out walking around outside of from women. I understand how women wear, but men. It's because you're a perp. You're just trying to sit and toes. No, I mean, I understand. I think men women, women. wearing their feet out all day is crazy to me. Like it's not that hot, bro.

That's a woman thing. Like yaku wear sandals and open toe hills and all. Men having on flip-flops all day outside walking around him. Like, yo, where are you going? So you agreed with Cameron when he said Jayz couldn't be the king of New York because he had on chancelotis? No, but Jay was actually on a boat. He was on near beach. He was near water.

He's a man, though. But he was near water. This gentleman was on a flight. Like, put some fucking side. And you went through TSA like that. Mm-hmm. That's another. too that I hate. Like when you got to take your sneakers off

and you're walking out where everybody some barefoot, dirty socks, that shit gives you. The airports are real. We don't realize how dirty airports are. Now you fully understand my meltdown in that Houston airport when they wouldn't let me go through pre-checked. That's why I freaked out. I'm not taking my shoes off in this nasty-ass place. Yeah, no, I hate that. That's one of the things I hate. That gives me the egg like every time. Like damn now I got to put my foot back in my sneaker like lady in front of me don't have no shoes on. She's well, I got to stand in the

same yellow spot. She just stood in like, but your arms, yeah, it's just, oh man, the airports are dirty. I mean, and there's even the people that wear socks on the plane and then get up and use the bathroom, but don't put their shoes back on it. Also, insane to me too. Like, they think because they just have socks on that, she's going to be okay. Yeah, walking to the, going to a bathroom with just socks is crazy. A public bathroom.

On a flight. You know, turblins, nigga, nigga missing the toilet. And you just standing in there. That's not water. Like, nobody ain't washed their hands and shake their hands. That's not water. on the floor, I can promise you that. Especially those morning flights. Nobody's even shit or piss yet. That's an active bathroom.

I was on a flight one time. I'd never forget, man. I knew this dude was going on. You know how you sit next to somebody, you know they're going to be a problem? I'm sitting next to this old dude, and I can just tell, like, he's been at the bar waiting for the flight, drunk.

I'm sitting there. I'm like, he's going to be a problem. Soon as we about, soon as we're about to take home, I'm talking about, when you know you're at the runway and the flight in front of you just took off? Like, you know, that's like, all right, we're about to take off

in, like, less than 20 seconds. Soon as we start going, he asked the lady could have used the bathroom, like while we were taxi into the runway. And she's like, no, you got to wait until where,

you know, like airborne and then, you know, I think he thought airborne meant, like, as soon as we take off. Yo, do y'all know how funny it is watching somebody try to go to the bathroom and the flight is fully inclined like this? Yo, he's grabbing every seat.

every head breast and you know the stewardess she's sitting there at the door so she sees him come she's like sir you have to sit down like you have you cannot he was like I got to go like he was lit he was super drunk he's like I have to go I have to go like I can't

sit in my seat any longer yo he's literally we in full like we're not leveled out at all like it's full incline and I'm sitting there I'm like yo all I kept thinking was if he fall in roll all the way to 36B.

That's all I kept thinking. I'm talking about full. We just took off. And he took his seatbelt off and he was like, I got to go. Like he said I got to go. And I just looked at, I was like, yo, that's either he got a shit or he got to throw up. It's one or the other. But he had to go to the bathroom.

You know, the flight attendant was so pissed. But you can't do nothing about that. That's like a grown person. You're going to tell him to piss on itself in the seat. He got to go to the bathroom. But you got to pick a better time. No, you can't be fully inclined trying to use the bathroom. That I understand, but they, they're kind of nuts with some of those rules.

Like, remember when we left Chicago, you guys went to LaGuardia and I went to Norque and I ended up having to go to Philly for fucking 10 hours with Amara? Yeah, because of weather. Yeah. We had to fuel up in Philly and they would not let us go to the bathroom. Like, we had to sit in our seats for three hours. Now, get the fuck out of it. I wish somebody was sitting there was just fucking gas. Like, we stop for gas.

Oh, no, everyone started revolting and just went to the bathroom at that point. You can't tell grown people. can't go to the bathroom and we're just sitting here. Get the fuck out of it. I'm going to the bathroom. Fuck you. And get these little bullshit ass cups of water out of you. I keep coming around with these little bullshit cups of water. No, nigga, I want to go home. I don't want water. Bro, that was

my fucking Houston flight. There's been a lot of delays because of, I guess there were some storms, all this rain that we've been having. It's been delaying flights. And my, you know, I sit in my airports, in my airplane seat, the moment I sit down, I go to sleep and then usually I wake up and I'm at my destination. I woke up. I'm like, damn, we're here already. Now,

we haven't left. Plan is 80. degrees there's no AC on it we're sitting there I'm like now y'all need to like deep plane us and then they're also saying y'all can't go to the bathroom would you like some water i know it's hot but would you like some water but i can't go to the bathroom like i just yeah united pussed me to fuck off they got to united shout out to united i do like who you know over there they're cool if you're in first class or business if you win economy yeah they treat you like a peon back there yeah no they're all turning They're taking the spirit mentality. Like, if you, economy, it's like 10 different fees for bags.

Like, might as well buy a first class ticket if you're doing economy and have at least two bags. They just adding fees the way Spirit used to. Favorite airline, Demaris? Delta. Yeah, I'm going, Delta. The new United I'm fine with. They just started turning shit around. It used to just be playing some of the 90s.

The new ones are cool if you get them. But if not, United, there's no gray area. It's either greatest shit or the worst shit. But Delta's pretty consistent. It's still fucked. It's fuck every airline. But Delta, JetBlue. I'm not mad.

I was going to say, I'm not mad at JetBlue. JetBlue. Get you free Wi-Fi. Yeah. Yeah, I flew JetBlue mint somewhere and it was one that the newer JetBlue planes. That shit was really nice. Oh, no. One Jet Blue shit I had in the Mint, I had a door.

Yeah. It was one of the newer flights. It was really, really nice. But what Delta did that pissed me off was they used to allow you to get free. Wi-Fi if you had a T-Mobile number so I used to put Pige's number in all the time because he was the only person I knew that had T-Mobile all the P-A-Paloza used Pige's number for free Wi-Fi yeah they took that away too and I gotta pay like $30 for a fucking hour Wi-Fi which one of the airlines is uh United United United has that though

they have T-Mobile United oh then maybe what you're talking about nope yeah they still use it Pige did you switch carriers why does that shit not work for me anymore well they'll also say like if you they do something like they won't let you use somebody else's number. Like if this is connected to somebody else, especially if you have your United Miles. It's like Netflix. Yeah. Too many people using this. That shit pisses me all. I got mad signed everybody to fuck out.

I can't go use my shit. Yeah, everybody get out of here. Yeah. Which airline is it that's bringing a shake on the flights? I think it's Delta. That's not a good idea. That's not a good idea. No. What's the difference? Demarious. It'd be niggas at Shake Shack in the

terminal. Yeah. At 6 a.m. Yeah. Like, what's the difference? Pee's one of those guys. He goes straight to Shake Shack. I see Peege in the airport 8 a.m. Shake Shack. I'm like, yo, what you doing, man? Yo, T-Mobile number and Shake Shack at 6am. That's a sick individual. Shake Shack is going to go crazy on them Delta flights, though.

That's going to be crazy. And somebody else got Magnolia's banana pudding, right? Ooh, who them? I need a fight with them. I don't know if it's not Delta. The thing of like, that was like the response. Another airline was like, are they doing Shake Shack? We're doing McNally.

Whatever airline's sole plane was. We're doing Magnolia baking. Please. That's Kevin Hart. United. Oh, wow. United is do Magnolia your banana pudding. Yeah, but I'm fine with that.

Because that's like in a container. Shake shack on a plane is disgusting. I don't care how you swing it. Either way, somebody got to go to the bathroom. Banana putting on a flight, shake shack on the soul is saying. You ever opened the pamphlet on the flights and see they put the chef's picture? And he, like, confident in the photo? Yeah.

Like, why are you putting you? your name. Why you put your name and face to these meals? You made this bullshit? This shit trash, man. Have you ever had a fire? And I'm trying to do too much now. Like, I get it. First class costs way too much fucking money. So I get you guys are trying to accommodate people with high class meals. I don't want curry chicken on the flat. Like, give me something that can heat up fine. Yeah. I don't need salmon on a on a flight. Oh. It's going in a microwave. I don't need the chef shit. Like, give me something that is going to heat up in a

microwave, fine. I don't need the high class meal. Need them good facts. It's a fucking fillet on a Delta flight. And I'm like, dog, get to, no. When we went to London on Virgin, they asked you want the filet? I was like, fuck no. I was knocked out. I don't know what nobody ate. I was asleep before we left the gate when we went to London.

You can't climb me about the usher shit because when we flew first class Virgin to London, we were in twin beds together. You and I basically slept together on the way to London. Yeah, I don't like that first class. They put you on top of the other person. Everybody's like laying down looking at each other. Oh, I don't like that. It's so fucking weird.

Yeah, like, I woke up and the dude across me was just looking at it. So now I'm like, I guess we're looking at each other. He's probably listening to the pod looking at you. No, I hope not. I hope. That's nasty. Having your voice in my ear and then we're like, we're looking at each other. You know how crazy it is to wake up as a grown man and you're on a flight and you look in front of you?

And it's another grown man staring at you. You know how weird because now I want to know how long has he been looking at. Man, what's he doing under that blanket? I can't even see his hands. Making eye contact. Yeah, man. There's no way I should be. in seat 1A and mall should be in seat

3A and I'm wondering if this is my water or his. Yeah it was literally a little divider right between us but like it was comfortable though. You ever seen like the dorm for jails like when they're all in one shit and the bunk beds and all that? Yeah. That's pretty much virgin to London. You're

like in prison. Stacked up on top of each other for fucking $4,000. But hey great flight. You get to London. Great flight. They have a bar in the shit. Yeah, no it was great. That was virgin. That was Virgin. Shout out the Virgin is another good airline, too. You went to sleep. Me, Pige, and Benner, I don't even know why we paid for a seat.

We sat at the bar for six hours. Yeah, I was knocked out. I don't do that. Well, I couldn't find my bag that was right in front of me. Oh, my. Pige, was you there for that? I think I love Rudy. Oh, my God. Oh, no, it was Edon. It was Edd. It was Edin with us. Yeah. Oh, my God.

And I'm telling you, I kept looking at this bag, like, that's Rory's bag. But I'm not going to say anything because I don't know He knows his luggage So I'm just like But I'm looking like That looked like the little carry on roller that you have It's the exact same one but just bigger Yo, I mean, they lost my fucking luggage

I'm like oh that's crazy This one luggage Keep going around There's one part of that story that was left out That doesn't excuse anything Because I should have just looked Benner who was drinking with me for the six hours As a wingman

Looked at it and said it didn't say my name on the tag and I don't know why I listened to him. Who, after like 20 minutes. It kept going around, but I took his word for it, which I'm not, I'm still taking all the blame. I shouldn't have listened to drunk out. Better than said it didn't say your, you know, like the sticker on the shit.

He's like, no, it wasn't your name. Who looks at the luggage after 20 minutes? Me, I'm like, bro, this has to be. We're the only ones here, and this is the only luggage on the belt. So I'm like, man, hold on. It came back around. I grabbed, Farrell. Stop playing with me, man.

He was probably sitting up there, fuming, fuming mad breathing off 100% sick I would have been mad too though we got back home and they lost my luggage It's fucking 2 a.m. Yeah I was It was a lot It was his luggage the entire time 20 minutes we standing there watching this luggage

Go around on a carousel The fact that shaw sat there for 20 minutes And didn't leave him He'd had to figure out of it No but we didn't stop because if the conveyor belt Don't stop We think it's more luggage coming out If it would have stopped

And then there's like no more luggage It's like oh shit like that's it But I guess it kept going Because they're like Who's bag is like And we only were standing in two in the morning, right outside of customs. And then I one-up did after that whole outrage, walking out through the sliding doors.

You know, there's always those shady guys. Yo, you need a ride, you need a ride, you need a ride. I said, yes. Let's do this. Oh, my God. Got in the shadiest fucking Scooby-Doo van. Dog. Felt like I was getting molested again.

It was that type of fucking van. And I was like, you know what, let's do this. I've always been curious who says yes to this guy. Because people have to say yes, they keep coming back. Best $100 ever spent. Got Edding back to the Upper East Side, got me to Midtown in like 15 minutes. Nicest guy ever. Maybe touch my knee, but that's the price you pay.

Because Uber was saying like $200. He was like, yo, a hundred cash, I got you. I might want to rub on your knee, but, you know. I mean, get what you made for. It is what it is, man. It was one of those vans that has the ladder on the back. Where does that ladder go to? I've never understood.

used that ladder. Who's using that ladder? Who's climbing? Where is that going? It had the spare tireship, no tire. Yeah, no tire. It hasn't been a tie and this is 96. His clothes in there.

We got to Keyes Building. He said, I used to teach tennis there. I said, no, you didn't. I swear to God. He used to be a tennis instructor there. I was like, no, you do not play tennis, though. You rape children. at the tennis court.

You got Utah plates at JFK. You are a rapist. And you got in the van. How crazy is that? Right on Paul, white boy shit. Yeah. You got to experience things,

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Who do you think he is? I don't know. You mean the, like, the president? You think Canada has a president. You think China has a president? You think China has a president? Those law cruise that. God, I love that thing.

I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep. It was a good one. I like that saying. It is an actual Polish saying. It is an actual Polish saying.

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over the weekend. Bow Wow left what I think was a voice note or a voicemail to Elliot Wilson, which, of course, he played on his podcast because that's what we would do with private moments as podcasters is play them for the world. Let's hear this real quick, Josh. Straight up, man to man, my nigga coming at you like a man, like a grown man. You do, like, what's the issue with me and you? Let me know. So I don't know. So I'm coming at you in private, instead of doing some whole ass niggas shit.

In private, then Elliot plays it. But I got the top of that. But I want to know what the issue is, though. My nigga. I want to know my nigger send me this tweet talking about you won't. Like, where that energy coming from? That's what I want to know. Hollop me man to man.

Don't go post no shit. Don't do that. Don't do that weak shit. I'm coming to you man to man. And I highly respect you. I always bicked you up. said that you're one of the mold. You're the pioneer this shit.

Elliot Wilson is one of the ones that I do like one of the only niggas I do in every week. Niggas like you sway. Pause, pause, pause, pause. How can I make this about me? Send prayers and condolences first. Got to stop. It's always prayers and condolences.

Yeah. Because I think bowels a legend. But he's saying he only fucks the people from the mold like Elliot Wilson's sway. Like we don't have the greatest bow wow interview of all time. If you haven't seen it.

Why didn't he say Elliot Wilson sway Rory and all? That's my only issue with this entire thing. He already did us so he wouldn't name us. We pioneered that. We went through that so he ain't got to grow through that. Grow through that. That was a shot at his height. See, no.

That's what you just said grow through that. Go look up the Rory and Maw, Bow Wow interview. It's one of our greatest interviews we've ever done. Shout to J.D. Shout out to Bow Wow, man. That was a lot of fun down in Atlanta with them. Sway is a hero of mine, one of the greatest to ever do it. But he never had bow-wows say,

yo, I got $1.5 million in cash. I'm bringing it to the studio right now. I've never seen Sway do that. No, never. Sway's talked to Tupac, but he didn't have $1.5 million cash. No. Nope. I think Pock just had a debit card on him.

But why is Elliot doing this, though? Like, why is he doing this? Seriously. You have to ask him to get to me, baby. Like, this is the funny. The reason why. I like this though, because I like what Bow Wow was saying. Like, I'm not trying to make this no public thing.

And then Elliot makes it a public thing. I will say, and you guys know I'm a defender of Elliot. This is out of his character for me. I feel like he had to have had a conversation with Bow Wow that he was going to play it. Like, as much as Elliot does do messy shit, he does still have the journalistic integrity where I don't think he would do this without. I could be wrong. I think you're wrong. But I agree with you usually on Elliot, but I don't think Bowie.

West Coast Wilson, West Coast Wilson, different, man. He's not from Queens no more? No, West Coast Wilson been tripping, man. I'm telling you, man. I know Elliot from Woodside. I don't know Elliot from Carson. Yeah, you don't know West Coast Wilson. West Coast Wilson been going crazy, man.

He's doing all kind of out of character shit, man. How you play up a voice note that he clearly didn't want to be a public thing? Clearly. He starts out by saying. This is a private situation. I ain't trying to make this no public thing. And here come West Coast Wilson, speak of the microphone,

playing the whole voice note, man. And Jeremy throwing shots. We might as to ignite this beef. Keep playing. In the name of Shad Moss, I'm riding with him. It's fuck the show. What's your issue with me?

Because a lot of my homies just send me some shit and I just want to know where that energy coming from. All right. Is that Playboy Cardi? Yo, bye. Bye.

You want to know my head is hilarious? Because he knows that's not Playboy Cardi. Nobody knows what Playboy Cardi sounds like. Who's ever heard his voice? Is that Playboy Cardi? You know, goddamn what, that ain't no damn funny. Half of his album, I thought it was Yadi. Yeah, I don't know.

West Coast Wilson been tripping, man. He's been tripping. Should we beef? Me? Yes, let's ignite the beef. Nah. I follow Jeremy. I don't even like how amazingly happy

he looks with his significant other. Stop posting all that happy shit on your IG, bro. Yeah, I don't follow. That shit is weird, man. Yeah, I don't want to all that happiness. Do y'all think that almost like if you send a voicemail to a rapper, do y'all think that if you send a voice,

anything voice-related? I want to interrupt you. You think we've sent a voicemail to a rapper? I'm saying when anybody does, it's a thing. Voicemail rappers, they become interludes on out. I love Marvin's room, too. Okay. So what I'm saying is,

Do you feel like that same thing should be applied where it's like if you send something to a podcaster, if you tell something to a podcaster, you know that there's a chance it might become content? Do you think that that applies? No. Just because we don't operate like that, does it? And honestly, sometimes we do. We've said some shit that our friends would have rather would not say.

Cord's going to kill me after this entire episode. Yeah. So I'm saying, like, should people consider that when they're sending what's very obviously content to a podcaster? because he should have text that. If I was by while I wouldn't have sent that voice note, I would have text that. Shit, I mean, what's the one of my favorite people, she blocked me after I spoke about us just having a conversation.

It wasn't even nothing crazy. I didn't play no voice note. I would never do that, though. But yeah, I just said, you know, thank you for reaching out and telling me about, you know, how you felt. She blocked me. I mean. You knew why, though.

That was. Yeah. Look what happens when I'm not around. I don't know why now. I didn't know why now. then. I'm the one that protects black women on the phone. I didn't think it was a problem. I didn't say anything bad. You didn't say anything bad, but sometimes people, you know the alliances with that entire thing and how messy that shit was. She can't be seen

talking to you. What? Demaris is right. What fucking world do we live in? I get why she bought you. I don't. I do. That's crazy, man. At that point, if it was something bad, if it was something negative, then I understand. But it wasn't, it was a just just the idea. Just the idea. of there being a conversation should have been private, just of optics. Like, she's a superstar attached to somebody that you have been viral screaming about. Like, yeah, I see it. I'm not saying it's right, but I get it. Yeah, this world is weird, man.

But she would probably say it would be weird. Like, I thought it was a private conversation. Why would you talk about it? Again, that's kind of what she was braced up as far as like podcasts. I was talking about it. I was saying thank you because I did. didn't want to come across like I really had an issue with this person. So I was saying thank you for reaching out and just like having that conversation with me.

But you already thanked her. So why didn't need to be set on a podcast? Why not? It's nothing negative. But that's the conversation that we're having is we're having a private conversation. This is negative shit though. That's what I'm saying. If I bring some,

if I bring some negative shit that's private to the forefront, then it's like, yeah, but if I'm bringing some positive shit. But negative is, uh, that's, to somebody else to assume. That's for other people to decide what's negative for them or not. Because her conversation that she might have when she went back into work could have been negative. You never know.

But that's stupid. Yeah, you don't know it was in her group chat. Yeah. With the affiliates that are attached to everything that was happening. They was probably looking at her like, yo, why are you hitting him up? You can't say. He's the op. Yes, Ma'all.

I get what you're saying and that makes me. He's the op. But you're also the same person who was screaming, nah stay on that side stay on that side so when somebody gets caught not staying on their side you can't not understand why they would block you for making that public knowledge but that's that's a whole totally different scenario though yeah we can agree to this yeah that's why she blocked you but yeah I think sometimes sometimes podcasters not us we're not that bad at it but other people might lean in too much and it's like I know we all need content and we all need money the podcast

world is drying up but there is a podcast world it is that shit is drying up and people are you said what tell it to rogan I don't know that's a great example there's outliers there's outliers everywhere it doesn't mean that the industry itself isn't becoming oversaturated and underpaid but people are grabbing for clicks and doing whatever they can for clicks but sometimes you're going to burn some bridges that you can't walk back across in doing so that's what I've been trying to tell niggas a whole year And that's why we have to pay for CISA tickets instead of getting the free passes I used to. That has nothing to do with me.

That has nothing to do with me. Don't put me in that. Keep them all out of that. That has nothing to do with me. You did that. I can't get T.D. tickets. And then I said the push-up comment.

Now I can't get OVO tickets. Same. You did that to yourself. I know. Again, I have nothing to do. Oh, okay. I have nothing to do with none of that. Whoa, I always admit when I have done some dumb shit and said something I should.

shouldn't have fucking said. Okay. That's fair. And had it, had the real version leaked first, I think we would have avoided that entire thing. It was just because that validated what everyone thought was AI because they saw me quoted two weeks. You know what?

Listen, it's been a year. We're all healing. I'm healed. Everyone has a good aura now. Light green. You see me, Pige. Put it around me. Mine is red and pink.

It's kind of flirty right now. Red and pink? Was that like day four? Boy, your cycle. That was actually hilarious. I'm not going to lie. I was actually really, really, really funny. Y'all keep hiring on these producers.

Where's HR? I don't think it's actually getting the credit of how funny that fucking was. Where's HR? It was a fucking brilliant joke. Spotty joke, if you were. I'm sorry, yeah. Spot on. Bye.

Spot on. Spot on. Spot on. Speaking of Red, Chris Brown don't want any of y'all wearing red bandtas. Nah, we gang bang. to his show, to his stadium tour. Please leave the red bandanas at home.

Chris Brown says I see a lot of the fans collective telling Team Breezy to wear red bandanas to the concert. I would highly advise y'all to not do that. Don't do that at the Sophie Stadium. Just get brown bandanas so y'all won't run into any problems. I don't want people to get the wrong impression

and promote the wrong thing. Y'all know I'm Briss Breezy, but we promote positivity on this tour. Thank you and I love you. Shout out to Chris Brown for that message. he needed to clear that up this is why I love Chris Brown every time he makes a very

mature statement he has to find some way to fuck it up he didn't fuck it up we kept it Chris what was um what was the last incident when he was clearing up he said the most positive shit or oh I think it was something that had to do with like

pronouns or whatever he said an amazing thing cleared up whatever bullshit maybe he said on Twitter and then after that said nah I only identify as a paroo so I don't really care about that pronoun shit I was like you were doing so good you know you smoke this PR shit

and then ended with no I just identify as Paru but you know Chris like shout out to Chris that that is a good message to send but he got to know that that's going to backfire and he's still going to win them Red Man Dennis he has to know that like they're going to make it a thing now like now it's like Beyonce with the silver it's going to be

everybody wearing red to Chris Brown concert for sure but why end it with I'm still breast breezy. I mean, he wanted to let you know, like, you know, I'm still, you know, I'm still on that. I think everyone in the treetop area is fine without that last statement. Yeah, but you know. Chris is, he's cool. He's just wanted to let you know what it is.

We, y'all know, we ain't, we're not stepping away from that, but we just doing something. We're just doing something different. Yeah, we're doing something different on this stadium tour. But, you know, people are going to find a way to, you know, let that backfire and wear red bandanas anyway. If you were to join a gang as an adult, which one, you join? I would never join again as an adult. I'm just, I mean, hypothetically.

Listen, I was talking about Cherries with Usher. I'm not doing that shit. But if in the event in your 20s, you moved to California, what like, who would you like to exploit you? Nobody's exploiting me, bro. I don't even know how to answer. It's not happening. All right. I'll say nicer. Who would you like to extort you? Nope, not touching that one either. No, just wrap it Well, do we have voicemails? Adam tried to bring on some crypt to talk about

the big you shit and all the guy kept saying I don't know he was but I appreciated it He just said, free all the crips And I was like, well don't you actually have beef with us? Free all the crips. They did nothing wrong. Free everybody. They're all innocent.

That's the type of energy I like seeing from people on those platforms. Oh yeah, it's gonna be different on it. Adam thought he was getting a whole fucking interview. That guy was like, yo, I got to leave in 15 minutes. Like, can I at least get like 30? you to talk about this? He's like, free the Crips. Absolutely. That's it.

You're going to give me a record saying nothing incriminating. I don't know, man. I've read some paperwork. Some people should go to jail. Yeah, that's true. I agree. That I agree with some people. Some menaces to society out there for real. Yeah. Voice mails though. You've got mail.

I'm going to get killed when we go to L.A. Hey, guys. This is Terry from Chicago. Hey, Terry. I came to your show last year. It was a great time. Great show. And I just had a quick question. So I'm a food scientist and I'm always curious to see what people's thoughts are when it comes when it's food related. So my question is, what's your most unpopular food opinion and the reasoning behind it?

What's your most unpopular food opinion? Eating eggs is eating an abortion. You got. He made a point. Shrimp is just roaches that breathe salt water. oysters are disgusting They're gonna kill you for that one Oysters are gross

You're just horny That's really all it is I mean it's just not I don't care You can put the Slim and juice And hot sauce on it all you want That shit is just snot

Eating snot Yeah I get it But it's like all right We'll be talking about That shit is not it Uh Lobsters are also just bugs

That tastes like butter Yes There's nothing really good About lobster until you throw butter all over it. So just melt butter and eat butter. Calamari is like eating rubber bands. See, now I'm with your ass.

See, see, you mean disrespectful. I don't dislike Calamara. I never understood the allure of it. Like, yeah, it's just... It's like rubber onion rings. Yeah, the fuck are we doing over it. It's like the washes that you put on the sink when you got to leave and you got to put the black washing on there to tighten it up.

If y'all go to the wrong restaurant, please know that you're not eating calamari. You're actually eating pig assholes. Just thought I'd let you know. Pig assholes. How many pigs? Mm-hmm. Because you only have one asshole, right? I think so, yeah.

So, like, each ring is an asshole? They cut it into multiple assholes. So, like, you told me, oh, you're talking like, chitlins chopped up? Yeah. Nah, I don't think so. Okay. I mean, I need to ask. I think my most unpopular food opinion is that everything vinegar-related is nasty.

Salt and vinegar chips, nasty. Well, salt and vinegar chips, yeah, I'm not. Nasty. Pickles themselves are good. But the way it sits in, the pickling process of vinegar, nasty. Vinegar is disgusting. Oh, yeah, I'd rather just drink the Jameson than the pickleback shot. That's gross.

Pickle juice is disgusting. Well, I actually like pickleback shots, like weirdly enough. But yeah, vinegar is nasty. It's fuck. Yeah, I mean. Salt and vinegar chips are some of the best chips. Fuck no. Oil and vinegar on a turkey sandwich from the deli is unmatched.

Just put the oil. Keep the vinegar. You need a little bit of vinegar. Not heavy vin. Don't go heavy vin. Just put some banana peppers on it. I mean, when it's spotting, it tastes like vinegar. I have nothing for that.

I was just going to sit quietly until you replied to that. I don't have to. This dude is crazy. Another unpopular food opinion. Duck is just greasy-ass bad chicken. I hate duck. Duck is not good. I ate duck once in my life.

It was just, like you said, oily, cheesy. Didn't mind it. Nah, I can't do duck. lamb is better than steak. I'm pissed. A good lamb chop? A good lamb chop? A good lamb chop is good, but a good steak is legendary. Not better than a good lamb chop. I think it's because... A good lamb chop is more rare. I think that's the issue. A good lamb chop is harder to find than a good steak, but a good steak cooked

perfectly. You bug the fuck out. A good lamb chop? Nah, bro. I love lamb chops, but a good steak is legendary, you, bro. Because lamb chops is like, it's almost like the, it's like shots. It's like the perfect portion. Eat a couple of them. Good steak,

you're gonna get halfway through and be like, yeah, I'm full. Yeah. But if it's the perfect size of good lamb chop, we're going out after this. Yeah, man, a good lamb chop beats a good steak.

I think it's a recency bias. Recency bias. I mean, eating lamb chops as I was four years old. Yeah, but you know how we say recency bias in music. It's like, if we've been listening,

into the same way y'all told me like dilemma was overrated i'm like it's because y'all've heard it three million times so it don't hit the way it did when you first heard it and i would say it's not better than love you better i stand by that so which is lamb and which is lamb is like lamb is dilemma no lamb is best of me okay which version yeah the jZ version okay so it's the best it's better than it's in your opinion okay yeah all right that's fair no one game in 50 were arguing about who fucked Maya first in their beef. Hip-hop has had some nasty years that we just... And game has been a part of a lot of them.

One of my goats. Shout out the game. Yeah, but I think that's in our unpopular food opinions. I think a lot of people should be more honest about the things that they put into their body, all of us included. We're all learning. Pasta is not good for you. Heavy cream.

American pasta is not good for you. You go to Italy. Wait, who thinks pasta is good for you? Some people, not good, but some people don't know how bad it is. They're not aware that it's sugar. A lot of people are not aware that all of that stuff breaks down into sugar. Sweet breakfasts. I know that Maul got killed for the juice thing.

Because if you go to Italy, like, you go overseas and eat pasta. Like, my home way was in Italy for a month and ate more pot. He thought he gained 30 pounds. He came home. He lost 20 pounds. So it's clearly just what they're preservatives is that they're putting in pasta here. And sweet sweets, you should not. be eating sweets first thing in the morning.

Like when they killed you for that juice take, you should not be eating sweets first in the morning. That's an American thing. Sweet pancakes, sweet French toast, sweets, all of that. That shit is going to crash your blood sugar later on during the day. You should not be waking up eating sweets. They killed me for that? Yeah, they killed you for that. For saying people can't drink juice in the morning.

I think is love them snaples in the morning, boy. Snapple is crazy. Every day on the way to school. Niggas is crazy. Jaws drink Pepsi every day all day. Listen. But that's his vice, though. He don't drink liquor though.

Yeah, he don't, he has no vices. Sugar is worse than liquor to me. It is, it is. Even though there's a lot of sugar and liquor, but Pepsi? A nigga drinking Pepsi in 2025. It's crazy. I don't know anybody that drink Pepsi. Like, you see somebody go to somebody crib and they got Pepsi in their fridge.

Think about it. Every once in a while, I'll crave it. It's actually kind of sick to, like go to somebody's crib, you got Pepsi in there. A nigga having Pepsi in his fridge is like a nigga having a fish tank. Who got fish tanks anymore? Niggas don't have fish tanks. Well, let's say, you went to somebody house and they had a fish tank. Like, you know, a fish tank?

The big shits, too. I walk in somebody house and they got a fish. I'm like, though, what's up, man? Yeah, like, what's up with you, though? What's you going through? A fish tank? Like, you take this nigga out every month and clean this shit? Like, get the fuck out of it.

A fish tank. Who has a fish tank? Yo. This thing about the things we used to see that was common. Yeah, regular. Yeah. Pepsi used to be common. Now you open somebody fridge and see a Pepsi.

The only time you'll see a Pepsi and someone. my fridge is if they took everything left over from the baby shower. Yeah. It's been there for six months. Yeah. I had a two-liter Pepsi in my fucking refrigerator for at least three months. I just never threw it away. Like, I had took one sip out of it because I ordered pizza and I had people at my house.

And I was like, damn, like, this nostalgic, you get the pizza with the Pepsi. That shit sat in there for months. Pepsi is almost like the ketchup package in the drawer. Yeah. We're not eating them shit. Like, you know what it's going to take for us to get down a box? busing one of those open? Like, why are you saving the soy sauce?

You're going to get it with your Chinese men. Stop saving soy sauce. They send this shit with every delivery, dog. Like, why are you saving all of this shit? Like, that's what having Pepsi in the fridge is like Pepsi? You got to save the Chick-filet sauces, though. That's different.

You got to save the, I get crazy. The Polynesian is a little different. That's a little, you know what I'm saying? But Pepsi? Homophobic, but it is great. Yeah. Pepsi? Nah, I can't.

You can't drink Pepsi. We got to get Josh on. I got to get you on a new soda, man. I got to get you on a new soda. All right. What's the new soda? I'm just saying Pepsi. Let's just get away from Pepsi. Let's try a soda. Maybe we can get them like a poppy or like a bubbly or like a, you know, something like healthy, like an olypop.

Yeah. No, we ain't going. That's Josh, the producer, yeah. Use code Josh. I can't argue. I can't argue with that. Allie pop it is, man. Greatest shit ever.

We're doing an ad. Yeah, we're doing an ad. If you're on the block, Ollie Pop. I'll get in here and start motherfucker. Yo, look at this nigga dancing. Man. You know, can you believe there was a time in an era that we were drinking Red Bull and vodka together? Yeah.

Like, this world is designed to kill us. Yeah. Yeah. We drank, we drank snapples and ate bacon, egg and cheese every morning as children just to then go drink vodka and Red Bull as adults. Yeah, it's bad. Like, I'd love to know what my intestines really look like. No. Yeah, it's nasty.

They can't be good. Yeah, so people killing me for that. I'm just, listen, man, I'm just trying to, you know. Our most viral clip we've ever had. Really? Yes. That shit is a social experiment. I'm so fascinated by that.

It's crazy because it's such an honest thing, though. Like, if you wake up, there's no reason why the first thing you're drinking should be like the leftover bottle of juice you had from last night. Like, who, why would you even do that? Unless you're drunk, because juice when you're drunk waking up first thing. No. When you're drunk. No. You shouldn't be drinking it, but juice hits when you're drunk when you first.

That's just not healthy, man. Just, you know, just some tea gets you. You know, get the fresh water. First of all, it shouldn't even be tea. The first thing you drink when you wake up should be water. All that. I'm not mad at some room. I can't.

There's Oregon cold water in the morning. No, that's crazy. That's such a shock to the room. Gotta do room tent water when you wake up. You know what I'm saying? Get some tea. Then get some fruits. You know what I'm saying?

Maybe a smoothie or something. Coffee. A lot of people start. I mean, I don't think that's the first thing you should drink, but okay. But what's the difference between coffee and tea, though, well, that's a big difference. What's the difference? Between coffee and tea? What's the difference?

As far as health benefits and health, like, what's the difference? They both have an insane amount of caffeine in them, unless you're drinking like a herbal tea. Ginger tea? Yeah, but who? Ginger little pepperminti in the morning? Ginger tea in the morning? The lemon ginger tea I have does not have caffeine in. Okay.

So yeah. Nor does the peppermint tea. See, I start my day off with caffeine. Also, one has milk and one doesn't. Caffeine. So either tea or coffee. Yeah, no, see, I'll go straight tea. Ginger tea in the morning.

You sit on the toilet, get everything out, you know what I mean? shower. Oh, you get the detox tea. What was the ginger? Not even IG chicks before that, the Twitter chicks. What were they selling? The Keisha K-T-Tee. Fit tea. You'd be drinking fit tea in the morning? Just ginger tea, bro. That's all you need. Ginger tea. That's going to get everything. That's going to flush you. Get all that out of there. I'm so mad. I have not checked that off my bucket list of having a high-price scam that makes so much money for one year. Yeah. Like, those chicks made a lot of money selling detox tea.

That shit was excellent. All that did was just make chicks have diarrhea. It's a loose way. But whoever sold FitTee, that year probably cleared $5 million. You keep saying that year, my little sisters still drink the Kea K or tea. And I'm like, that's the reason why you're dropping, I lost five pounds. Five pounds of shit. Out's your asshole.

You're not, you're going to gain it right back when you eat again. Like it's just making you. Yeah, water weight. Yeah, water weight. Yeah, you're dehydrated now. Like literally it's not. Remember the herbal life crew? Mm-hmm.

Of course. Please. Please. You was an herbal life girl? Fuck. No. I don't do pyramid schemes. Oh, but you say please.

Because I know what Rory was thinking about. Oh, okay. What was I thinking about? You know your ex-lice that used to do herbal life? I wouldn't call her an ex. Oh. I'm an acquaintance. Niggas always wouldn't call some of my ex.

I had that conversation recently. If you've made me cry more than one time and we've argued more than five, five, if somebody asked you, that's my ex. I'm not. You got to argue five times in order to be your ex? Yep. I'm not doing that. We're not doing that. We went through hell and high water together. I met your parents. You and met mine. We haven't been a certain place. You're my ex. You're my ex. You're

my ex. Hold on. That's like, arguing five times in parents. Yeah, that's a totally different fucking thing. Yeah, you can argue five times and I'm argue with a meter made outside five times. You mean my parents. Like, you're definitely my ex. 100%. We can't. We can't. See, I disagree with that too. If you mean my parents? My mom would be around. Everybody had I met Rory's mom and dad. Nah, not mine's.

Yeah, everyone in NFS, every chick period met my dad. Women would be surprised that I know my dad. That's how much they don't be my dad. They'd be like, oh, you know your father? Yes. You just will never meet him. I was surprised you. Yo.

See, that's fucked up. That's because you my guy, so that's why that's. No, I knew. No, I knew with that day in Harlem. You knew I knew my dad. I knew you knew your dad. It was. And do you?

Let me do some Elliot Wilson shit. And would you say to send to any of your white friends? I knew you knew your dad. See, that's deracial shit I'm talking about. First of all, I have white friends that don't know their father. I don't see color. Oh, man. I'll do some Elliott shit.

When we were at a restaurant in Harlem and your dad was in there, and like you weren't speaking to him, that was when I was like, oh, maybe he doesn't know his dad. I didn't speak to him? Me? He was at the other table and he was just like, oh, yeah, that's my pops. I was like, you don't want to say hi? No, I said hi to them before I said. That's what it is.

I walked in and said how to my mom and my dad first. He didn't sit and me and you sat together. No, okay. Wait, wait, wait. Your parents are sitting at the table right there. We're not even going to acknowledge that your parents are sitting here. He didn't see me. When I walked in, I walked straight to the table with my mom and my dad was at.

And then I went to the table where he was that. So he didn't see. I'm just like looking at his pops like, yo, you know your son over here? No, I said hello to my parents first. That is funny. Your mom and your pops were sitting together. Like what they was talking about? the night they conceived me de maras i don't know that's what i'm just saying like i ain't know i ain't know if they

was rekindling that's why i'm like that's no my mom and my dad is cool they're not like trying to rekindle but they still like cordial and yeah like no they still my mom my dad is still cool sure yeah it's not like beef shit it ain't i just ain't know they was you know go to a romantic dinner sit out together type cool i don't know if it was a romantic we was at a restaurant like the lights were a little low it was dusk It was dusk. What do you what me said? Well, I didn't even pick up their check. Yes, I, yo, oh, yes, I did.

Yes, I did. More than that. Yeah, yes, I absolutely did. One hundred percent definitely picked up the check. That shit was so confusing to me, though. I was just sitting there like, wait, you're not. No, I said hello. I said hello before I came and sat down with you. That's funny, though.

And you know why your pops is like my pops? When they were down, your mom came over, I said, what's up to your mom? Your dad just was in the corner. Like, yo, can we leave? Yeah, it's time to go. Come on, man. Not even on there. No.

Well, yeah. It's great to know what your father has birthed to the world. I just wanted to say thank you to him. That's all. For everything that you-shout to pop. He's contributed. Yeah, he got super sperm for real. Talented-ass sperm, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know that's probably weird for you to hear, but it's okay. I've heard.

I've heard worse. It's okay. It's not as well. On this date in rap history, because Josh is going to be crazy. He's going to have a fit if we don't talk about this. On this date and rap history, April 7th. 1987. 1984.

DJ Jackie Jeff and Will Smith dropped their debut album, Rock the House. Classic. All right. Rock the House or based on a true story? You haven't even heard Will Smith's new album? I did. Oh, you did?

Yeah. Oh, it's more than I heard. No, rock the house. I mean, that was being for CISION. Yeah, rock the house. And on this date, Josh, in rap history, Nas drops in 1999. I Am album and released Hate Me Now video.

Legendary, Legendary Hate Me Now video. It's kind of ironic with Buff now. Well, too soon. Yeah. No, no. Right on time. Spot on.

Speaking of IM, is this a hot take if I think New York State of Mind part two is better than part one? I don't know if that's a hot take. I can see some people feeling that way. It's a far better song. Yeah. I can see people feeling that way.

It's not. I don't think that's a hot take. We owe Nas. some apologies for the I am Nostradamus time. Both those albums are fire and everyone should know nod nods for it and I don't understand why. I think...

You Got Me is an incredible record. Genuine smoked it. Destiny's Child in the video. If y'all wanted Nas to keep dropping knowledge, he can't do one song for the hose. Yeah. I get it. Apolly. Say what's your price.

Just to back it up. You go home my ice. God me sing you all Oh me back Like you owe your tax That's a classic Y'all don't think that's a classic And on top of that

If you break down If you break down The hook Knaz is dropping knowledge On that hook On me back like you owe your tax Yeah Even the whole my eye shit

Of collateral and everything Like Nas was really doing science On that genuine hook Like he didn't He didn't sacrifice His integrity on that one y'all just wasn't listening to the knowledge he was dropping that was some irs shit that was some irs that was some n-s shit all the letters that spell exactly all right well it's

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Yeah. Just so you know it's right. I'm going to get you back. Just hold the chain. So you know when I'm paying for this pussy. On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me.

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