New Rory & MAL - Episode 362 | Plan B

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

We keep the tape rolling as a pre-show conversation about New York State Public School lunch bleeds into the intro of the pod (2:25). Shortly after, we get to business shouting out Missy Elliott and Meg Thee Stallion for putting on a show at Coachella, while Chris Brown and Karrueche had a mini reunion (18:23). Mal feels vindicated by the results of our Twitter poll (41:32), we respond to IG comments about our Mixtape Mount Rushmore debate (43:38), and then build our own White Rapper Mount Rushmore (47:35). Keri Hilson, Ja Rule and 50 Cent, and the St Lunatics rehashed feuds that had us feeling like we were back in the mid 2000's (59:45). Plus, Rory and Mal give travel advice to a recently single listener (1:26:27), and Demaris and Mal argue over who would have (or not have) custody over their hypothetical IVF child (1:36:50). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. Yeah, we... Hot Cheeto. We don't never talk about, like, the food and nutrition program in our schools in New York. It's some of the nastiest shit. Remember when they started... Oh, Maul was way out of school by then. Roy, were you...

No, Roy was out of school, too. When they started giving us salads. I was in school during the worst time ever probably for food. The 90s? The worst ever. Oh, no, yeah. They was feeding y'all bricks. They started giving us salads.

When I got the ninth grade. Salads. When they would have like the pizza day, they would have just that iceberg, but like just the white lettuce. Not even like there'd be no green lettuce. It would just be the white hedge and they chop it and just throw that shit over there. A little bit of French restaurant. Nobody would touch that. No.

Now when I like spicy chickens. When I don't know how my stomach is still working. When the Obama. I think when Michelle Obama started doing her health thing in schools. I was out of high school. It became like a whole. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Y'all don't know school struggle.

Y'all don't know what it is to eat tater tots for breakfast. Yes, I don't know. And wash it down with chocolate. That was lunch. Wash it down with chocolate milk. You know what I'm saying? You know about that struggle, Josh. Yeah.

He's still struggling like that. The super donut? I don't know. He hasn't graduated yet. Josh, Josh. Josh hasn't graduated. He's still on reduced lunch. Yeah.

He's still eating like he in the, ninth grade, bro. What's up with you, man? Josh is crazy, man. Josh still eating like a high school man. This is crazy. Yeah. Now, I was some of the most unhealthy food. There was no healthy option though. No. I mean, I think it's over here. And no one, there was nothing. The mashed potatoes with the turkey that they used to serve around Thanksgiving used to bust and I don't care what nobody say. Absolutely. Hell, nah. That shit was amazing. With the turkey. Everybody's slice the turkey looked the same. Everybody's slice was the exact same. Now, that shit was like keen turkey. It wasn't even like a slice.

It was definitely in a can. Yeah, canned turkey. Can turkey. Whatever grave now was. Everything was canned. Which do you think that they just, they was really chopping it up in the back there? They was all in parole. They had to get home before three.

I went to see a friend of mine, her nephew was in the hospital. So I went to go see him yesterday. And he just has like a respiratory infection. So I was sitting there like, this is where I'm at my life where I just start observing like just hospitals and how they treat patients. So I'm like, yo, what they just brought them? Like they brought him some, I guess, dinner. So they give you. Two cranberry juices, that's not cranberry juice, just high-fructose corn syrup and water,

grilled cheese and something else. I'm like, you have a respiratory infection. You're literally coughing up flim. Why would they give you cheese? Because they're investing into their client long term. What do you think they're trying to do? I'm sitting there looking. I'm like, your hospitals are really, this is insane that they're giving this kid.

Grill cheese. He can barely breathe. He's on a respirator. Cawfing up. flim every seven minutes and his dinner is grow cheese with high fructose corn syrup. America is the craziest place in the world, bro. But the actual cafeterias at hospitals now are actually pretty good. So like when Kia gave birth and we stayed for like those two days, you know, they,

they don't let the dad be part of like the program. Like you're a plus one. You're not in the Pelican package that she gets. You get a fucking chair on the corner and you have to feed yourself. They get three meals a day, whatever. they'd serve Kia in her bed I'm like I'm gonna go down to the cafeteria and come back with a real fucking meal and Kia's looking at this like all right

fuck Medicaid fuck Medicaid there's like the hospital cafeteria is really good yeah but it used to be ass but yeah but it's I mean that shit is like yeah if you paying for it yeah if you're paying for it yeah oh yeah we got everything if you're paying but the patients you're gonna get this slot and being here extra two weeks so we can run that that insurance up a little bit But what's funny is even having a cafeteria like at a New York City hospital is funny to me.

Like Amara was born on 34th and 10th. I don't need a cafeteria. I just walk outside. Millions of options. Yeah, that's true. If you're in the midtown, yeah. But I guess there's, you know, people that work there, they don't feel like going out. You're just going downstairs.

I guess. But like you want to eat where sick people conjugate? I like the fact that we can go into the hospitals and eat, like into the cafeteria. I like that. Wait, just like somebody off the street? No, I had a wristband that said I was good. I was VIP. Yeah.

You can go into the hospital off the street and go that cafeteria. Bro, I'm promising you can. They, I had to go through a security clearance with my baby on the way out. No, you can go. I don't know about the hospital was in Manhattan. But I don't know uptown. He got a wheelchair when she was in labor and they was like peace. You got to go through a whole, like I had two forms of ID just to even get through the first floor.

Cafeteria was on like the third. There's no way you go. In the Bronx? Two security. Well, yeah, all right. in the Bronx. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

It's the only hospitals that count. Where they served the school lunches. And fentanyl. The checkout person, yeah, the checkout person got it. They run out because someone's taking it out the back. That's a fact. And now we know why Mall worked as a nurse. I was never a nurse.

I wish I was a nurse. I was, no, I worked in food and nutrition. P. So you were giving the grill cheeses. Yeah. I used to hand out the food. I used to hand out the food. I should deliver the food to the rooms and come up, you know,

help them come up with their menus for the day. day. It was cool. How'd you go about that? What was like your first question? I mean, it depends. Like a lot of them was like mad that they were patients. Like they just had attitudes. So you got to kind of like just ignore that and like yeah, you know, well, your doctor. This is what their, you know, your diet is. Put everything on the doctor. Your diet said, your doctor said, this is all your options. It's only thing you can allow to eat. But it was, like I said, it was always whack when one of the patients that you got cool with, you go to work the next day and they did. It's like it's because of their diet. You even put together a meal plan.

the high fructose corn syrup, taking them out of here, one by what? You could have changed the world, Craig. I know. I was just the guy delivering the food. I couldn't change no part of their diet. That could have been a whole movie script that you, like, secretly start bringing in real fruits and veggies. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's definitely a martyr where you have to go to court, but it was for a better reason. But you're really breaking the law.

Like, you could have been, yeah. That's definitely a, that's definitely. That could have played you with a different accent? Yeah. Like, change your whole ethnicity. What accent? What accent? What accent?

What accent? You bring back the concussion one. Same one. Oh, man. Or just Spanish, 25%. Like, he could have just played the Puerto Rican Saudi. A little bit of Spanish. Oh, yeah.

A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. You was going to bring coquito in there? Josh appreciates that, yeah. And Coquito. Pocito and coquito. Don't bring Coquito into a hospital.

Why not? For Christmas? It has to be one of the older guys. You were just mad at grilled cheeses. Now we're giving cancer patients alcohol. That's fine. Yeah. I like it.

Better than how fructo's on stage four. Give me a cigarette and some henicies. There you go. Like, you're on your way out anyway. What does it matter? It ain't my fault. How was y'all weekend? It was cool.

It was low. Damaris looked like she was. Demaris, what's up? You get to scratch and that's go. What you was doing this weekend? In my house? Like I am every weekend that I ignore. Yes, still recovering from Wednesday in my house.

You said you were ignoring me this weekend. I didn't text you. No, I'm saying ignoring Rory's existence. Like. I'm seeing more and more of this generation like in people really enjoying being home. Yeah. I see a lot of people like on social media talking about it weekly. Like I enjoy being.

the house. I'm like, really? Okay. I thought it was the rent high as fuck. I'm going to enjoy. Yeah. I'm going to get my money's worth. Yeah, I don't know if it's enjoying rather than like really trying to go like, yeah. There's no way. This is the lounge. We have become, yo, I got food at home. Yeah, 100%. We become, you, we are our parents so quick. Like, I laugh at how long I've been my mom. Like, it's a laughing. Like I think back, I'm like, yo, I've been my mom, but probably at least 15 years now. Like the shit I'll be doing at home, I'm just, I just had to laugh. I'm like, why am I cleaning this bathroom again? it's just me in here.

Like how much of a mess am I making in my bathroom? And when you go out, everyone's just talking about what you're gonna watch when you get home. Yep. Or what food are you gonna eat?

Yeah. And then on top of that, it's like, I see what you're drinking. I have that at home for a quarter of the price. We could all just went to my house. That's why I don't understand

how people always out every night. I'm like, what's wrong? What's wrong at home, man? A lot of people aren't comfortable being alone. They're not comfortable with themselves and not comfortable with silence. What's them thoughts?

What's you doing? What's you got to ask you, What you be doing, man? Why are you out every night? Like, why are you scared to lay down and just chill in the crib and let them thoughts just, like, talk to you? Yeah, it's probably phomo one, because once you get in that pattern are always going out, you think you're going to miss something, not realizing that if you take a month off, go out once, you realize you didn't miss a fucking thing.

But how long does it take to get to that point? Like, how long? Because I see people that's out now all the time. I'm like, okay, they haven't hit that point where they realize it's all the same shit every night. How long does it take to get to that? But some people really love that, though. Like there are some people who want to... The same shit every night?

There are some people who enjoy the party. They don't want to have kids. They want to live that life until the day to day they die. That's what they want. I mean, I don't have kids, but I'm not partying every night either, though. Like, I don't have kids. But were you ever really a person that really enjoyed partying? Like, really enjoyed it.

Yeah. When partying was partying, like, I always say I was, I'm old enough to see the transition from, you know, when it became bottle service. Like, everything was a table. Yeah. I remember when it wasn't that. They're still, like, the younger kids do have. have their version of stuff that we liked. Yeah. We're just so far removed from it.

All we see is the club shit that's on TikTok and fucking IG. Yeah. I've been in some shit where nobody had their phone out. People were dancing. It was like a real cool underround event. Like those still happen. We just don't know because we're not in the mix. I know about them and I don't want to go. I'm because I'm at the age where I'm not going somewhere I can't sit down. So there are parties that exist.

Demaris, you are 30. I'm 31, but I'm not going somewhere. I can't sit down. I kind of felt that way like, I can't, I'm not going away if I can't sit down. Yeah. You just standing and roaming? Like, nah.

Unless it's. We need, we need an, I'm not saying a section of thing. We just need, this is where our shit is. Yeah. Like, everyone can roam for a second, but we know where home is. It's in this corner of the party. Unless it's out, unless it's somewhere outside. Like, if it's outside, like the outside party's like how Doucetepalooza used to be and shit like that, when it's outside, then I have no problem with that.

But when we crowd it in and there's people bumping past me and I don't have nowhere to sit and I got. high-ass heels on and my fucking feet hurt and I've gotten past that age I can't do that shit I need some more to sit now or I won't be there you know what's next after that baby D when you get to that point

what kids it's true I'm just saying that's just the natural order like that's that's the natural order you've been there for 20 years you ain't got okay yeah but it's different for me he can pull out you can't

yeah see the sides I could pull up the plan I could pull up baby D said I can pull up a plan B. I can Uber to the glue factory for sure. Hey, baby D, they Uber eats in the plan B.

You know. They're not really good. Baby D. Don't you need I? No, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

We're not going to let baby. Don't you need ID? We're not going to let Baby D. They can't even finish and Uber eats outside. Answer the door. Yo, baby D order in the plan B while he's still hitting it.

It's crazy. B. We got to put it to you. We had dinner. We had dinner to plan B on his way to the crib. Yo, that is got to get the whole 24 out. Yo, that is crazyness.

You know, sometimes where each driver's, like, go through your fries and shit? What if you found your plan B? Open. Yeah, nah, fam, we're going to need that. Like, what you don't? Give me my- No, but he, like, sealed it, so you didn't realize until way later. He threw my shit to Avil, I'll be pissed.

Yo, that is a suit-of-ed in your plan B. Yes, man. Ordering to Plan B while y'all at dinner is crazy work. Or it's just innovation. I didn't think you, because don't you need an ID? No. You could just go to Walgreens and get the plan B? Yeah.

They got that shit next to deodorant. But that's locked up now too. Everything's locked up. Push the little button, man. What you're talking about? They take 30 minutes. But you don't need ID. You just got somebody just got to come open a little last thing.

How is thought you needed to like show some for them. Ah, man. That's old shit. That's only if you're getting it through your insurance. Yeah, but if you paying, if you paying cash money. If you waiting on your insurance, that baby's coming. Yeah, that's a fact. We ain't waiting on insurance.

We don't get this baby out of here tonight. That baby is out of here tonight. That's a fact. Fuck that insurance. George. Does plan B really fuck with your stomach? You don't know because you're never taking one, but I'm not that it's never no oh crap no not that I got my nerve system crap yeah I'm in nervous stick out your tongue yeah like it was working like you know I think the biggest disrespect is like when a man like when you but a man asked you like oh you bought that plan B I had a nigga

asked me like yo yeah you got that plan B right and I was just like yo I'm not gonna hold you I would never want to have your C I don't know why on God's green earth you thought you got to call me to make sure I got that plan B, baby. I promise you if I do nothing else today. That could be an attentive father. Following up, making sure everything's going okay. Make sure you good. Yeah.

Sounds like a family man to me. Yeah. I think his head was just a little big. Like, nigga, you would be trapping me. Not the other way around. I promise you. That's crazy. I had a girl take a video of her taking it to prove to me that she did it.

I didn't ask her for that, which I thought, I think she thought that was a good gesture. But then it had me thinking like what had to happen in her past that she thought. She had to show you the video. Nobody asked to that. Yeah. took a full video, selfie video of taking it. I'm like, I didn't, I trusted you was going to take it. I didn't think you weren't.

Sending the video. Because now I feel like you're taking a fake one. Because why to show? Why the production? Yeah, it had my mind racing, which I think she thought that was the ring light on when she did it. It was content for us. She probably on someone else's couch. A ring light is funny.

She had the ring light on to take a plan. Everyone's been asking me about my plan B routine. Yeah, I don't do it. Part of my morning routine. subscribe to my plan B regime Oh man But yeah more I don't know I think people are just really

Outside is expensive Recession indicator I think everybody Also your timeline is probably people older You don't you shouldn't be following No 21, 22, 23 year olds I don't know how old some of these people I follow until they post those balloons in the back

And I'm like whoa unfollow Thought you were 30 Didn't realize this was 24 for you And it goes both ways Because sometimes they'll be 24 And I'll be like oh shit You're way younger than I thought Then sometimes they'll be 40 and I'll be like, I thought she was 25.

Yeah, it looked great. You can't tell them more. This makeup is crazy. The makeup now is insane. Like, you never know how old a girl is until like you see the balloons in the back. And some makeup be looking, making these people look older than what they are. Oh, yeah.

Oh, for sure. The surgery does too. You just think that face surgery is making them look better. No, you just look older and weirder. When you take all that fowch, when they're taking like the fat out of their face and pulling their face back, that's making them look older. Chunky, chunkier faces look younger. Yeah.

How come the. the plastic surgeons haven't figured out hands yet. Like even the professional plastic surgery chicks, like the ones that are millionaires and get that shit done by monthly. I can still see your old ass hands. Yeah, I can't wait to get my hands. Damn, how old is a good? Your hands? Yeah. What's wrong with your hands? I got old lady hands. Let me see your hand. Not on this camera. I'll show you off camera. But I got, what's wrong with your head? I got like, baby.

She's going to find the pretty for the rest of the year. I got really do. Baby, do You do not have old woman hands, though. I really do. No, you do not. I'll show you later. You turn 31 and start acting crazy. You never met a chick with like wrinkly hands? I had wrinkly hands when I was young.

Not a fucking, I've met a, no pun intended, a handful of chicks that were young, but they had old hands. Yeah, I've had old hands. What do they do for work? It's not about looking, it's not about having rough hands. It's just like you have like more skin on your hands. So your hands look more wrinkled. More defined in certain areas.

Y'all got to do your spare fingers more often every morning. You got to do these. It's usually women. who have like small hands because I have like baby hands like people who have small hands when your fingers are longer it stretches the skin more I have really really short fingers baby D who are you venom what is she talking about I'll show you baby you do not have oh you know you have to show me your hands you do not I feel like if you had oh hands I would have saw your old hands and made it a topic of right we would have been discussed your old hands you don't

have O hands big foreheads wrinkly hands who said that you know what they say no I don't know what they say I've never heard nobody say Rory I've never heard nobody say everyone Well, Coachella was this weekend. Yeah. Speaking of old hands, there's a lot of old hands out there, Coachella. A lot of young ones, too. I didn't see much of the clips, but I did see a shout out to T. Payne. I did see the clip of him performing and him talking about how grateful he was.

I didn't realize that was T. Payne's first Coachella. Oh, that is wild. That is crazy. Like, T. Payne? Like, he should have been at Coachella a few years ago. Yeah. In 07. But he was happy that he finally got his chance to touch the Coachella stage.

And shout out to T-Pain, man. I think he's one of the guys that... Legend. Oh, man. And every sense of the word is lasted through so many changes in music, through sound, through technology, through, you know, just business changing the music. But he's somebody who always finds a way to still give us great, great music.

So shout out to T Payne, man. Yeah, and I mean, we're not going to break down every single performance because I don't even think that's what our listeners want to hear. Did you guys watch any? Yeah, I watched some of the streams. I mean, Maul, your explanation of Missy's performance in Chicago, I mean, the Coachella one, she came out. as a fucking transformer.

That's how she came out of Chicago. That's part of her set. I just think obviously the Coachella stage is bigger. Yeah, that set was incredible. It's not, now I understand at least from watching on a stream. No, Missy is, she's probably due for a Super Bowl,

honestly. Like, Missy's a catalog. She and Friends, I can see that for sure. Yeah, she, Missy and Timmerland, they definitely need a Super Bowl. Missy, again, I'm glad I caught her show in Chicago. That was the first time I ever saw Missy perform live. And I was absolutely, like, just in awe of just to attention

the detail and just the production of her stage show obviously we know missy has always been ahead of the curve when it comes to vision visually with her videos and things like that but to see her live and see her bring all of that to life was uh was special i'm not backtracking any of my statements i still do not think that tyla is riana but she had one of my favorite sets over the weekend as well tiler's performance was crazy choreography was great she sounded great i loved everything about her performance um i mean you know me and pidge we were on FaceTime watching the Green Day performance together Oh man

Now we give it up That's our childhood Yeah that's that's my shit Green Day Yeah my dad gave me the Duky CD for one of my birthdays Then Nimrod I think was the one after that I love Green Day And then you know I'm a hipster So I hated when they got like pop and punk

And started painting their When everybody else started knowing When they went emo and started wearing mascara and shit I'm like I like the punk rock Green Day But legends as well it was great How did they sound? Amazing Still sounds great They're still yeah

They're still one of the greatest bands of all time I want to see Green Day live. I'd pay for those tickets for sure. Yeah, absolutely. I want to go to a Green Day show. When they announced the lineup, I said that was the number one reason I would even go. Yeah. Especially in that type of setting.

Yeah. Glorilla, sorry to sexualize you, but, you know, that was the main clip. Sorry to sexualize you. got in really good at performing. I mean, earlier this year or last year, I think she did go on tour with Megan. I'm sure that helped. But she's been putting work into her performance. Now, the rap girls can't just come on there and be cute and stay in there anymore.

Like, it's over. Like, you've got to perform. I mean, I think that especially, yes, for the rap girls, but rappers, period. Yeah. You see even 50 cent got dancers and shit during his get rich. No, 50 coming from the ceiling. And then they had 50 swinging from the ceiling? Well, he was upside down for the Super Bowl performance.

No, we understand that because that was part of the video back in the day. But 50 don't need to be coming from the ceiling, man. He do. In this day and age, people... 50 don't need to be coming down. He has the exact same performance for 20 years of just this. Yeah, but fuck it. That's what you've been doing for 20 years.

Fuck it. We're going to keep it hip-hop. I agree. But he still does that, but he has production behind him. You have to do that. You have to grow. I'm not mad at having production, but I don't want to see 50 coming from the rafters, man. That's Curtis Jackson.

See, that's boobo, man. Y'all know if this kid was doing the queens growing up. Like, nah, man. Hiding in the rafters. Yeah, we can't have. Don't do that, man. Don't bring 50 there. And knowing 50, he laughs at shit like that in production.

Oh, for sure. Like, oh, y'all want me to come for the fuck it, man. Let's do it. Like, does he know he ain't supposed to be doing that? He was laughing during his Super Bowl performance. Go rewatch that towards the end. He starts laughing. Like, yo, what am I doing right now?

Fucking crazy. I'm about 300 pounds heavier than I was when I did the end of the club video. I cannot be upside down. All the blood is rushing. my head. We saw Chris Brown and Carucci had a little exchange that set the timeline of a crazy. Chris Brown and Carucci saw each other at Coachella and had a, you know, what seemed like a little friendly, friendly exchange back and forth. And then that set people off, like, you know, it's only the internet that tries to cancel Chris Brown. In real life, people

love Chris Brown, even the women that y'all think hate him, that he's dated. And I just sent women into a whole conversation. I ain't a lot. I have fun reading some of them comments. She probably hated him at one point. Yeah, but I mean, you know, people get over things. People get over things and, you know, a lot of things that we hear may or may not be true. But it was good to see that clip of him and Carucci still at least in a positive space with each other. I read that headline as two people that know each other spoke at an event. Right.

That's right. That's how I read the outrage. Yeah, but you know some people at that. If you see them at an event, it wouldn't be as friendly of an exchange. Of course. But to me, that shows just how far removed both of them. are from that situation. We know there was a lot of, from what we know.

Headlines in the song K, which is my favorite toxic R&B song of all time, where Chris Brown took no accountability and put the entire thing on Karucci, even though he had a baby with her best friend while he was in a relationship with her. It was her fault. That's why I love Breezy. You saw him even bringing up old shit. Nah, that's a classic song. I'm bringing a musical masterpiece.

Point out the classic. Kay is one of my favorite Chris Brown's song. Got you. I got you. That was so fucking long ago, like they're both. that 2014? Maybe before that, maybe 2013.

Damn. And I forgot when they stopped dating. Like it's been so long, they both have had like 10 different relationships. If you see an ex that you, if she really gave a fuck and was still like involved in that,

she wouldn't have said anything. Yeah. To me, that's the proof of moving on completely that you could see someone and be like, what's up? Yeah. And just laugh.

I mean, I always say, I'm glad that I am the type of guy that any woman I've dated, I think we are in that space. if we see each other any point in life, it's always a friendly, hello, how you've been. There's never no, you know, bad energy. Fuck you. I hate you. It's never that.

But I'm sure at one point there probably was. Like when he ran down on him was standing like this outside the club, I'm sure she didn't enjoy that. I'm sure she was saying nasty things in the sprinter on the way home. But time time it tends to heal things. Yeah. But, I mean, you know, sometimes you got to spend the block of Coachella. Baby, what you think about Chris Brown and Carucci's little laughing with each other? Yeah.

Oh, every time I see any of my exes, I show all 32 teeth. So I don't, that's regular. thank you for that baby deal like what that's breaking no no thank you for that insight you know you say one little smart little thing you do the little lean in one little smart little comment or some shit like that

like yeah keep moving what did that usually mean though what do that usually mean honestly he's usually 100% innocent I don't like 100% of nothing he could have leaned in and said he could have leaned in and say you know when the paparazzi see this is going to be hell right and she could have laughed at that and boom there we go

Like, it could have been, it could have been anything. You know how that you. You have to get one of those sarcastic light shots off when you see your ex. Yeah. A little whisper. Especially when you're that famous. Like, you know cameras is on you at all times. We had Coachella.

Cameras on Chris Brown. Anyway, he's at Coachella. So he knows. And, you know, you've got to kind of give that little. And like, I can't really hug you and embrace you like I want to because they're going to blow it out of proportion. But. And then once you do that idea, you know, you send the text message like, you know. You know Baby D.

You know the text message after you see them. You know the text message after you see your ex. What the text message? What should I just see my ex game? Glad to see that you did everything you said you was going to do. How's your mom? Now, baby, do you do shit like we should catch up properly outside of a setting like that. You know, something like that.

No, baby, these do shit like you should cut your hair. That's the type of shit she's saying. That's her flirt. After she said, you should cut your hair shorter. Nah, it's more like I would hate to shut Coachella down early. Keep it cute. But what do you say when both you guys are famous? Why are you shutting Coachella down?

Because girls was around me saying what's up? Like, oh, you, that's, see, nah, she Baby D that type. She's trying to get Coachella shut down. Like, yo, I'm just Chris Brown out here chilling. No, but not actually shut down, though. You almost got Palooza shut down or something like that. You cool? Huh?

Almost getting Palooza shut down. Because you cool. I was ready to shut that whole shit out. Baby, I remember that one. I remember seeing Baby Dee Wilder. I just think it's funny that, like, at the height of the beef, Kanye and Drake saw each other Coachella didn't shut it down. But Damaris, if she saw her ex at Coachella.

Shut down. Ferris wheel going away. No, but you actually don't actually shut it down, but you said that little test like, don't test me. And just that, just so he could be like, he ain't giggle and shit like that and they keep it moving. All right, even in that situation,

I feel for them because you kind of can't win for losing. Let's say Carucci, hypothetically, still doesn't fuck with Chris Brown. And you guys end up in the same place because that's where they fucking put celebrities. If you have a stank face or like, yo, get the fuck off me. You're like, then it's going to be even crazy.

You can't win, yeah. So you just got to smile and just keep it moving. You see the difference. When they sat Cuevo next to Chris and when they sat Carucci next to Chris, you see the difference? No. No? No, I wasn't. What would you say the difference was?

No, just the energy was a little different. As two famous people, how do you have small talk when you see your ex when everything you do is documented? So what do you've been up to? Nah, because they speak. I'm sure they speak. I mean, I'm sure you saw my tour was enough. I'm really how much in this small talk. I'm sure they both knew that they were going to be there and, you know, they probably spoke.

Or probably didn't. I can't. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe they didn't. But I think that if Carucci is somewhere and Chris is on his way, somebody's going to let her know Chris is on his way here. Like, he's going to be right here. Like you know where you're sitting the section. Because I've been places and they're like, yo, so-and-so's on their way in. And I'm nobody. Like, I'm just like, whatever. Also event producers that will know that and tell everyone else, don't tell them that this person's coming. We want clicks. Yeah, but Chris and Carucci is different. I'm sure they run into each other before. They're both in the LA scene. Like that's, it ain't.

I think they still communicate. Yeah. I think on some level. I think they're still cool. I think they still communicate. But that was what a lot of women in the comments were saying, you know, like, y'all be thinking that, you know, women be hating their exes and, you know, a lot of women do have healthy relationships with their exes, even though things, even though things may have happened when they were together that was toxic. People grow.

People get over things and, you know, things like that. So, I mean, I just thought it was cool to see them, you know, you know, both publicly where people can record a video and see them both smiling and having some positive energy. I thought that was cool. I'm only in my own little bubble with this review, but it seemed like more of the people I knew went to Coachella this year than the year prior. Last year, I think I came on here and was like, damn, nobody I know went to Coachella. It felt like a kind of an off year for our bubble. Well, you know why? No. Because you could finance your tickets this year. I don't know if you could last year, but this year, more people took advantage to that. Most of my

friends that would go to Coachella would were not buying tickets like I mean just people with oh my bad see who I forgot what your roller decks look like my bad my road you mean the people I follow on Instagram that's your road you mean the people I follow you can see them too shit crazy I don't subscribe to their uh exclusive stories or whatever you can do on IG nah but when I when I said you was regular you wasn't regular on Patreon you was like I am a regular guy I am a regular guy everyone can follow the exact same people that I follow on Instagram that is true but they can't follow back well I I mean, that has to be consensual.

Yeah. Force follows. Like, and the times we're in now, it's a very sensitive thing. Yeah. But with that said, the craziest headline that I did see, Moll, was what you just said. 60% of Coachella attendees finance their tickets to attend the festival. Taking out a loan against the festival that you're buying a ticket from is fucking insane. People finance everything these days now, guys.

Yeah, but I'm just on the side of if you need to finance Coachella, you should, you should watch the stream next to everybody else on the couch. No, not exactly. Some people, it's the same way people finance vacations and stuff like that. Sometimes you can't afford to spend all that money up front. So I understand that. Yeah, but vacation in the year, you're budgeting your year out. I'm all the way with that.

We finance things. I get it. But taking a loan out where the payment plan starts as low as $50 and some of these tickets are over $1,000 plus all the housing, you haven't paid that shit off for years. But it's not a, it's not. You can be paying that off until the next Coachella when you want to finance those things. Listen, that Beyonce paying for just hit my account too.

Listen, I won't paying $700 up front. Y'all going to have to get it for me a month. People do that shit with everything. Can we look up to see what Coachella, what the interest rate is if you finance? I think it depends on your- Can you finance like season tickets to a game? To like the team?

Yeah. You can finance them there everything now with Klarna, a firm, PayPal, pay later. You just get hit over the head with. fees and the interest rate. Every once in a while. I think I paid a total of $10 on my Beyonce tickets and they were 700.

Oh, I think that's a great finance plan then. Yeah. So are you still paying that off? $10? What is it? $10 a month? No. No, no. The interest, my total interest is $10. My payments are $220.

Oh, so you're done with that. If it was $700. That shit was almost a year ago to concert. No, the new one. Oh, Cowboy Carter. Cowboy Carter. Oh, okay, okay. got you. He did, but I also bought my own tickets.

I wasn't going to take that chance. Yeah, why didn't get flaky and back out on you? A flat fee of $41 is charged for you the payment plan. That ain't nothing. That's an 8% interest rate. All right. Interest rate calculated.

We're all stupid, so everyone in the comments, relax. We're just having fun. How long would it take with an 8% interest rate for $1,000? It would take nine years and double to $2,000, based off what Coachella was offering.

If you want to go the route of the lowest version, you could take nine years to pay off your $1,000. We have it right there. It was they only charge you $41 to use the payment plan. Yeah, but plus 8% on what you spend. No, this fee is equivalent to roughly 8% of the ticket. All right, cool. So yeah, $41 total, flat fee.

I'm not mad at that then. I suppose, but then you're also putting on your credit card. Sometimes, sometimes people put it on debt. No, actually, you can't do. Them pay later's you can't put on a credit card. It has to be on a debit card or a bank account. Okay. Well, more power to everyone there.

I want to finance some season tickets. You can do that. If they don't make the playoffs, fuck that. I'm not paying that shit. No, it don't, baby. It don't work like that. I'm disputing. That wasn't me.

I'm disputing. The nigs got to work like that, baby. Still got to pay. Fuck them tickets, man. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I saw Coachella related. It just looked like a good time. Austin Mills performed. thought that was great.

Yeah, when Emotional Oranges did it two years ago, he was on someone else's set, so it was really cool to see him on the stage. But to be on the lineup this year, I think that's amazing. Shout out to St. John. He performed as well. His set was crazy.

Especially the cross and shit. This is set design is fire, too. Shout out to Saint, man. It was good to see him on that Coachella stage. I'm here to say Meg had the best performance. I stayed up all night, last night, and watched it. Meg went crazy for an hour and still left like three number one hits on the table.

She didn't even have time to form. Meg went absolutely fucking insane. Entertaining, dancing, choreography, nonstop, outfit changes, set changes. Brought out Queen Latifah to perform UNITY. Brought out Sierra to perform a mashup of goodies in the song that, that interpolates it. And bought out Victoria Monet and had Victoria Monet sit her ass on her knee. And Meg grabbed her ass. So, yeah, best performance.

At one, absolutely insane. She should have been in headlight. I didn't see that clip. Yeah. Got to do my research. Nah, y'all missed that. Y'all should go back and watch that if y'all can. Did you guys see any clips of Vibes Cartel at the Barclay Center?

World Boss. Yeah, hell yeah. I think that's incredible. Shut out the Vibes Cartel shutting down Brooklyn. How many nights did he do? I could be wrong. I thought it was just one. Hell, no.

Oh, he could do three weeks. I'm just saying. I think he did two. Two, okay. I mean, as much as I would have wanted to go to that, back to our conversation of maybe staying in the house. Yeah. That let out would have been a little too much.

for me. Yeah, I just, downtown Brooklyn would have been a lot. I'm saying in a good way, just maybe a little too much for me. I would have to get into a whole different, different mindset to go into the Barclays for that, man. That shit would be Juve next to Apple. Yeah, man, but it was dope to see vibes on the stage. It looked like an incredible show. Shout out the vibes, man, you know, where he was last year, where he is now. It was just incredible to see him shut down, shut down the Barclays like that. And even, you know, of course it was trending on the timeline because Vives is Vives, but I saw a lot of people just admitting, which is fine,

that they had no idea the impact that Vibes Cartel had on the world. He's fucking hove to a lot of people. He's Beyonce to a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He's Michael Jackson to a lot of people. Vibes is the definition of fucking danceholes. So it was great to see that he was getting his flowers there.

Great to see Vibes, shut it down. But I was really, you know, only looking at all the Shincea clips. Sorry, I mean. I love Vives, man, but shout out to Shinsia. Like she, you know, she just looked great. Did you cry like Safari watching vibes the way you were watching her? No, I cried like Safari, you're watching sincere, yeah. Can we pull up Safari crying real quick?

Shout to Safari, man, in front of the show. What was he crying about? Nothing. You cried at Gunna. A Jamaican man can't cry at vibes? That makes way more sense. I didn't know that that's what he was crying at. Yeah, it was just.

I didn't cry like that at Gunna. Crying like that over vibes called television. The Flash being on his whole. We thought he was going to be in prison for the rest of his life. Crying with the flash on you was crazy. Vib should be crying like that. The fact that he's free and then Brooklyn shutting that, Safari, don't need to be crying like that.

Why not? Come on, man. Straight. No, that's what he says. Yeah, but don't say that to me. No, but that's what he said. I know that's what he said. I'm telling you, don't say that to me is what I'm asking you to do.

But look how happy he is, man. No, shout out to Safari. He thought he had a good time. I saw Cardi was in there too. Cardi was moving around the Barclays. Cheeks all the way out. Never mind. I'm listening, man.

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Listen to the Nick Dick and Poll show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Over the weekend, after I was watching the Coachella clip, stream, vibe, shit, I did go back to our Twitter poll. when we were discussing swinging. Was that on our regular episode or that was on Patreon? Regular. It was on regular.

We had a voicemail. Someone called in and we completely turned from giving advice to asking if you want to see your partner with someone else. And, Maul, I hate to tell you, 9.6% of our listeners would like to watch their partner with someone else. Why would you hate to tell me that? Because, I mean, you said it was a mental illness. Well, 9.6% of our listeners have a mental illness. That's all. That sounds about right, right?

Pete is about that. That's about the numbers right there. About an opposite of people. That's a fair number too. Yeah. About a 9% of people out there with mental illnesses that are undiagnosed.

I kind of just love how the social team typed it out. Yeah, I'm into that. Or absolutely not. Yeah. Absolutely not. Yeah, they could have put a maybe in there. I don't know.

I'd be willing to try it. Yeah. I need to bring it up one Valentine's day or something. You heard what the marriage just said, keep it cute, right? You heard what you heard what the marriage just said. So imagine now walking in watching your partner

with somebody else. It's not happening, man. Nobody's into that shit like that. for real. 9.6% Mental illness. We talked about this last week. But this is how stupid polls are? Because like this is how it's the polls that are stupid. This is how the news like

really reports information that we deem like law. Like no, this is from a poll. This is mathematics. They'll poll 100 people on a topic and then take that number and then all of a sudden that represents America. So we like a news station would take this. Family feud has been doing that for years. What you mean? Number one show

in America. Yeah. Are they wrong? No, they're not. They're not. Go to their top rappers when Steve did that one. Oh my God. That was crazy. That was insane. Who was number one? I want to say Snoop, I think.

We definitely covered that whole thing, but I didn't store that in my memory. Thank God. That was one of those topics we talked about and I completely forgot about afterwards. On purpose, you forgot. But we could come out and just report that 9.6% of people want to watch their partner with someone else. Just because we have that pull. Yeah, Snoop was number one. But that makes sense.

Snoop is the most popular rapper. comparable. Yeah, the list is kind of nice. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Also, we caught another one of being fake viral. This time it wasn't about soda shaming. It was more about mixtapes. Did our mixtape Mount Rushmore, which had a lot of the timeline going back and forth, not even on our posts. I just saw it across the board with different blogs. I'm here to say that all the things that the South claims we do with our New York bias, the South does 10 times worse

than us. Way worse. And it's not even close. Like, I'm here to say, that New York bias shit y'all be saying, you guys have it 10 times worse than we would ever have a bias. They was trying to tell me that 50 never even did a mixtape that people listen to. He was never on radio or was even heard until Get Richard out trying.

Like he didn't do the first ever mixtape tour called No Fear. his entire existence started for mixtapes. First time he was on the radio was remixing records that were other people's records. Wankster was not the first time he was on there. He's remixed L.O. Cool J records. That was on the radio. He did the first mixtape tour.

And then they were telling me that, nah, that never happened. No, 50 definitely has one of the best mixtape catalogs. Definitely is one of the, you know, ambassadors of exactly how much a mixtape can propel you into mainstream and, you know, become a superstar. I think he probably is the poster boy for that. But the comments, you know, there was a lot of people throwing people in there. Somebody said, I think Wiz has a strong case for the best mixtape cattle.

A cushion OJ. I think obviously is legendary. Now, I'm never mad. We were going off Mount Rushmore. So I kind of want to make that clear of what I think, at least the Mount Rushmore means. It means like the creators and forefathers, right? Yeah.

Not necessarily like the greatest. Because I'm never mad if someone says they think Wiz is the best mixtape guys. I don't personally think that, but he deserves to be in the conversation. Absolutely. Objectively, no matter what. So y'all giving 50 way too much credit in the mixtape world. Squad Up series was already a thing before 50 started putting tapes up. I'm not saying a mixtape did not exist before 50 cents.

I'm saying the style and structure in which he did it as a solo artist and how that created his career. He was the first to do that. He laid the blueprint that everyone on that Mount Rushmore used afterwards. Right. And you know what? The thing about this, I'm not debating this with nobody that ever did never use the landline. Like if you ain't using landline phone, I'm not debating with you about anything.

That's just my thing in life now. Like I got to start asking, have you ever used a landline phone? Yes or no. If you haven't, you got it, bro. Whatever you feel, because your world, you will never understand my world. So I totally listen, man, you got it. I'm not arguing with nobody that never used a landline phone. I'm not doing it.

What else we had for comments? That was the last one you had, Josh? I'll put Waleigh mixtape discography against All There is Fight Me. I mean, you guys already know what's type of Waleigh fan. I am. Wally is underrated. If we went with favorites, I would probably be in my top. Top three to five.

Mix tapes? Mixed tapes. Dysographies? My personal favorites, yes. Okay. But then again, it's also not fair. That's why I think the Mount Rushmore needs to be established as these are the forefathers of it. once while they came around

mixtapes were so established that it was necessary that in between albums you were pumping out two mixtapes like he's from the blog era where that was so necessary that's why Wayne has 30 mixtapes and 50 only has three

things were different you use that to get on and then you did your albums but then again 50 pushed that to G unit radio which there's like 75 of those in between albums elephant in the sand I just think it's kind of an unfair

situation when we're talking about the older artists because I mean Big Sean's catalog mixtapes are my favorite. All that artists from that generation mixtapes are my favorite. I saw Dreamville they were going around asking everyone Jay Cole favorite project outside of Forestil Drive. Friday Night Lights everyone kept saying it's a mixtape it's not even out right it's a different time. Well like in you know true fashion

true white people fashion where you had to make y'all white rapper Mount Rushmore. What about What about us guys? I'm saying, yeah, like it's naturally we can't talk about rap without talking about the white rapper. So they made a white rapper. Lucian Grange, Leor Cohen, a bunch of faceless. Rick Ruben. Redacteds.

All right. So this is Mount Rushmore. Obviously Eminem, rest of the piece, Mag Miller. Is that Paul Wall? It appears to be Paul Wall. Paul Wall and Russ. I feel bad for the guy that had to sculpt Russ's hair. Yeah, that would have taken forever to chis.

It looks like it was. He had leaving condition in his hair right there. That's a good leaving. I don't know if Paul Wall is on the white rapper Mount Rushmore. Again, establish what Mount Rushmore is. Well, the ones that kind of, you know,

laid the foundation for the foundations for the white rappers. So you would take Paul Wall off before Russ if we're talking about laying foundations? Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't say, I didn't say I wouldn't say I wouldn't take Russell off either, but just looking at that, I mean, Mac is still too young.

The only case I would make for Mac was defining the generation of the new white rapper. Like where it went outside of Eminem, it was kind of corny for a, it was MC Search and Beastie Boys, which was cool. They're bass and shit. Then it was like corny for a while. Then it was just Eminem. and then Mac action, like that whole time came. And I think Mac defines that era. So I think it's a forefather of the new white rapper.

Maybe. Oh, okay. Well, maybe. If you're changing forefather to the new forefathers. Well, there's not a lot of white rappers that are like really established and have credibility. Because if we're just going on forefather shit, it's got to be M, MC search. We can't put, I guess, all the Beastie voice. And this is going to sound crazy.

And I'm not trolling. Vanilla ice. I'm dead ass. Ice, baby. Yeah, I don't know about vanilla ice. Why? How was he not one of the forefathers of white rap? You could say it's corny, you could hate it.

You could say it was bad for hip-hop. But how is that not a forefather of- You're right. Forefather, you're right. You would have to have vanilla ice there. You would have to. I think you could put LP up there, even from like the label side, rapper side, like LP to find underground.

This is a, I don't know, I might be swinging for the feet. fence here, but Marky Mark in the funky bunch. You got to put Marky Mark up there, man. I'm sorry. Is his brother more popular? I mean, he was in one of the biggest groups ever, but I mean, we're not going to act like Marky Mark didn't have some, I mean, was a house of pain? Oh, House of Pain definitely has to be a, yeah, it was a lot of groups.

Wait, Marky Mark is Mark Wahlberg? Yeah. What, no, he's Marky Marky. No, I knew, no, listen, I knew, listen. See, landline. Did you ever use a landline phone? Yes, I've used a landline. I knew that Mark Wahlberg used to be a rapper.

I also had heard of Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch. I never put together that that was the same Mark. Yeah, it's Mark Wahlberg. The legend. That's the legendary Mark Wahlberg. The funny shit is I'm looking at like the Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch bunch. Like I'm looking at the Wild Side tape or whatever it is. And I was about to say, this man isn't white.

He mixed. And then I look and it's Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg. the legend absolutely that is actually fucking hilarious name in your group the funky bunch after you were just arrested for racial slurs in boston massachusetts where do you get the balls to call yourself the have the word funk in anything that you do where's kid rock is kid rock was i was gonna say kid rock if we're just going off facts and not feelings do you have a case kid rock might need to be up there he might need to be on the mount rushmore of white rappers um i completely forgot

about House of Pain. That was a great pick. But again, these are all groups. Like, I didn't even just put them like small as one of the heads. Yeah, you got to just pick. You know who. You know the head. But it would be just like us as whites to change the rules and put 15 of us up there. Yeah.

Yeah. Everybody gets a participation. You got to do what you got to do. Get a new mountain. Yeah. Get a new mountain. Need more mountains. Outside of that, I don't know. It was, white rappers were weird up until recently. It wasn't really a thing.

They're not still weird. It ain't that many white rappers out here? Just a lot of white rappers now. Like active right now? Who's active? Two years ago, Jack Harlow had the biggest year of any rapper. Oh, and Jack, yeah. Jack Russ.

Yeah. Macklemore had a great time whether you liked it or not. Yeah, but they had like a little two-year, three-year run. Action Bronson, Yellow Wolf at a time, MGK. I mean, Post Malone doesn't consider himself a rapper unless it's convenient. Yeah. So, oh, God. So I happened to click on, because he came on after Meg last night, but I was like going to

sleep. But I just happened to click on it. And I'm like, who is this Bama ass, country ass, man, I'm a, this post? The legend. Okay. He came out with a beer. I had some tight Levi's. I said, oh, okay.

Get to it. Let's get right to it. We're going to get right into the set. Yeah. I fuck with folks. Oh, I forgot. Our guy, Vinny Pass, that you said, I don't listen to. You don't listen to Vinny Pass, man.

You don't know nothing. above any pass. Is logic up there? No. After his new sound, he's going to be up there. Wait, well, why is logic not on the Mount Rushmore? Well, who would you take out to put logic there? As far as rap?

Yeah. Just rapping? You're going to take, you're going to take Paul Wall out to put logic there? The South going to shoot. The South might actually come find you. I might actually shoot you. We just told my... He had the internet going nuts.

That's the people's champ right there. Yeah. I'm saying we just talking about rap, though. What that mean, no. Logic could rap better than a lot of. these dudes on his Mount Rushmore is what I'm saying. I will take any Paul Wall verse over. Over logic?

Yeah. Even if you walked in there and just started freestyle. It's hard to take Paul Wall up to Mount Rushmore, though. It's hard. Again, in that transition, I get back at. Now, where's Bubba Sparks at, though? College Park, Bubba Sparks. We got to give Bubba Sparks some love.

Where's my white ID? My actual ID. I had to turn that over. We got to give Bubba. Dungeon family's finest. Bubba Sparks. Deliverance. One of the greatest records ever.

Ugly. One of the greatest videos ever. We got to give Bubba Sparks some love, man. Page, make me every character from the Bubba Sparks' ugly video. Come on, man. Bubba Sparks' legend. Yeah, no. Come on.

White rap legend, man. Come on, we can't do that. We got to give Bubba Sparks his flowers, man. We can't do that. Yeah, I'm with you there. I'm definitely with you there. Are we allowed to play a snippet of the new Logic Zone? We can't play shit.

We can't play none. We got another copyright strikes sent to our email. Well, you guys know, I think Logic. as a friend of the show, I actually think he's a good guy. I've enjoyed speaking to him. I enjoyed speaking to him afterwards. I've said to his face, and music is not for me. It doesn't mean you can't like someone as a person if you're not just there for all their music.

This is my first time actually being upset at Logic. I wish we could play the snippet. He's in his Playboy Cardi Travis Scott era now. And I just don't think the streets need that. I mean, if it makes you happy, do it makes you happy. I'm not here to stop you with your musical dreams, your independent, do it what the fuck you want to do. You're rich. You're a parent.

The world is your oyster. I didn't hear it. But, oh my God. I think he's trolling. He has to be. This has to be a joke. All right. So we just came back in

because I wanted Mall to hear this snippet so we could react to it properly. It slaps, but I just don't need it from Logic. Well, first things first. The last time, I remember Logic saying he was retiring from making music.

Yeah, but every rapper says that. He put out three albums since then. Yeah, okay. So let's start there. Yeah, I don't, Again, we're just going off a snippet, that 12 seconds. You think the be going to change some boombat? No, I want to hear.

Is this going to come in? No, I want to hear what he's rapping like. Oh, I assume it's going to be in that flow for the remainder of the song. But I don't know, maybe he's getting bar low. Because you could get bars off on that. Or could this be like some logic conspiracy way to show how easy making that type of music is? Now, I can see logic doing that as well. That's where I, he's one of those guys.

He's one of those guys. He'll definitely. definitely show you how easy it is to make time. He tricked the Wu-Tang to get back together. Anything is possible. Yeah. I don't know, man. I just think Logic is just one of those guys that's just so musically inclined and talented that, you know, he's going to try things and, you know, sometimes it's going to land, sometimes not. But I do want to hear that record. Like, I want to hear if he's actually rapping and going on that record. I see what you're saying, because I also, and it's going to piss all of our listeners off. I agree. Logic is extremely talented. Even if it's not for you, you cannot say that person right there is not talented. Absolutely. Why are talented people

regurgitating other bullshit. You're talented. You don't need to do that. If you weren't talented, I get it. Ride a wave. Why would a talented person need to do that? That would be my issue with logic. That's my issue, and I'm not comparing Kanye and Logic at all.

But when Kanye with Ye was just riding the wave of the sound that was going now, I'm like, you're a genius. Why are you doing this? That's where I think it's kind of weird. But I don't know. Show people. Show how easy it is with AI to make that type of music. I could see Logic doing that, though, to make a lot.

a point in just showing how easy it is to mimic that sound and try to recreate it in his own way. But listen, I want to hear, I want to hear the song. I can't, I can't, off a snippet. I can't kill Logic and say, yo, he's trying to sound like Playboy Cardi and all these guys. I got to hear the record. And we can get off this, but they did a trap Mount Rushmore as well, which at Gucci, Ti, GZ, and Yo Gotti.

And initially, everyone was upset about Future not being there. I don't think about Future and I think Trapped. But again, I'm not for the self, so I'm not the right person. I mean, he's in that category, but I feel you. He's like right after, I think, the trap shit. But he definitely has trap elements for sure. Yeah, 100. Like, if you call him a trap rapper, I wouldn't be like, no.

But I mean, as far as the forefather shit, I mean, yeah, it's kind of, I think they kind of nailed it. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at Gucci, Ti, Gizi, and Yogi. If you are going to take somebody off and add a future, then it would probably Yogadi. Yeah. But I'm not mad at this photo As far as Trap Rushmore No, I'm not mad at that

Yeah, that one didn't have as much Like outrage because everyone from the South was like, yeah, this is perfect, we're amazing Yeah This is perfect, you nailed it We've never made a mistake or had a bad music opinion In our entire honor Honorable mention for Trapped Rushmore

Titty Boy, two chains Yeah To have them on there I'm with you Yeah, I'm definitely with you And I mean, new generation Doug has to be there too Absolutely.

But again, not Mount Rushmore. He would be for the next generation for sure. Thug said, I'm going to pull up, eat on that pussy and dip. You love, you felt that? That niggas is a genius. All right, man. All right, baby, Dee. What you're going through?

You're all right? What's you going through? We hear to listen to you. That's going on. You all right? Have you got a little food setting left? Yo, like, what's up? Baby, Dee, like, yo, he's a genius.

What? My bad. Because he got that off and just left. And he did it in Amman. minor. There's a lot there. Oh, I, I sort of got my brain. I know, and that's how it happened.

My brain was not even, that was way more layer than I thought. Exactly. And that's how it happened. No, he did not do that to a minor. Right, right. I got you. I got you.

I got you. I got you. I got you. And this is why I understand when Carrie Hilsen comes out and says she regrets some of the things that she said and done. I still Carrie. Now I understand, Carrie. I regret making that statement about the,

it's okay it was B sharp I saw Carrie Hilsen on Breakfast Club Mm-hmm Um Saying Yeah man

Carrie is All right Listen we're all beehive But we can't appreciate Someone years later Coming out and admitting What they did was wrong Oh no

That's not even what I was I should embrace her I was still talking How did she look I wasn't even told me I didn't see it So I'm asking you guys What did she say

So yeah Carrie Wilson was on the Breakfast Club And of course they brought up the infamous Carrie Hilsen Beyonce Dis. But that's been like kind of a myth that's never really been addressed for over

a decade, I feel like now. The Turned Me On Remix where Carrie Hilsen had the bars, because you turn me off, your vision cloudy, if you think that you're the best. You can dance, you can sing, but you need to move it to the left, to the left. Coincidence, right? I think so.

I think the fuck not, you trick-ass bitch. I think they were overthinking those bars. That's how you feel about it. Carrie? No, that's a, that's a meme, sorry. I think the fuck not, you trick ass bitch is a meme. Not Carrie, sorry. But Carrie Olson said, it's a regret. Oh, is it Carrie? Is it? Did you regret that? I'm not going to let y'all do that because yes, that was a big pivot in her career. I love Carrie Wilson. I thought it was, I thought, I mean, naturally, you know, I understand how

fan base is turned and, you know, you go, anybody going at, you know, Beyonce, this is how it probably would turn out for you, especially if you're an artist. Well, you couldn't really clock fan bases at that time. It was not everything was on the internet. So the myth really became that, like, Beyonce had some, like, New Orleans Creole voodoo that just stopped her career at that time. That's what the fans think. But I'm sure there was some stuff behind the scenes. Like, let's not act like artists don't do that when they have power to shut certain shit down.

I can promise you Beyonce didn't have anything shut down for career. Oh, I don't think Beyonce did either. But I'm not saying people close to Beyonce didn't. I mean, I don't know. man, I think people put too much into that. Publicists used to have a lot of power. Let's not act like back in the day publicists were not right next to the fucking CEO of the label

as far as who could push what button. I could see a publicist doing that shit. All right, you want to play? As far as pretty, that's it with anything. No, when you have, when you're as successful as Beyonce was in 2009 and I would have to, Josh, can you look up what of Beyonce's was out during 2009? If you say, oh, if the team goes,

oh, if you work with this person, I won't work with this person when it comes, I mean, we won't work with you anymore, whether it comes to producers, songwriters, anybody like, yeah, just start slowing up. A lot of those reference tracks and all those ideas you were being sent

in the fucking boatload of CDs slows up a little bit of them. Clipped up flat screen. Let's not act like Carrie Wilson was not at least a big factor at that time. No, Carrie Houston was here. And first of all, that record did work outside of the disc record.

The remix didn't even work. Nobody really paid attention to the remix, though. The Turn of Me On regular song was the big one. And everyone was remixing it. That was one of the remixes that I think stood out. And let's not act like Carrie wasn't with Polidon at the time. It was one of the biggest producers in rap, R&B, and pop, who I do not think gets his flowers.

He needs to be up there. I wish he did a verses so people could realize what his catalog is like. Bolidon was one of the best of that era. So she went on to say, but that's not the way people would think because that's a song I actually didn't write. Those are not my words. If you weren't around for that era, Esther Dean, who's one of the greatest writers of our generation,

was writing a lot of the hits at that time, especially with Polo, and she wrote a lot of stuff for Carrie. So she was suggesting everyone was mad at me, but I didn't write it. Carrie, if it worked, would you be saying this? Like, that kind of be my, that's my only issue with Carrie here.

If that would have worked... And, like, Carrie became bigger as a result of that I record? Yeah, if it worked the way we saw a 50-disc jaw, and it was like, it went crazy. Mm-hmm. Would 50 come be like, not even write Wankster? That was someone else. No, it didn't work.

So now you're going back to a regular thing within pop music. Esther was writing for everyone at that time. You recorded it. Yeah. Probably a bunch of takes. Found the one you liked the best with the pitch. I understand that you were being pressured by the producer and your team and all that. But you have the final say, even with the pressure, which I get, you still have the final say.

I appreciate that you're coming back and saying, yo, I regret that. I'm fine with you saying, you had pressure for. from your team. But don't be like, oh, it wasn't even me. I didn't even write it. I mean, you're saying it. Yeah, but again, I like, you know, the way you're posing a question, if it worked, would she be saying this? She would need to be saying it if it worked. If someone brought that up, let's say in this hypothetical, we're not even going to go with that it destroyed Beyonce's career because that's a joke even in a hypothetical. But let's say it made Carrie bigger and she was doing her legacy tour shit, sat with Charlemagne and he was like,

you, that time when you diss Beyonce, that was kind of like launched you to the next level. Do you think she would have went, what's crazy is I didn't even write that? No, she'd be like, yeah, that time was nuts. I was a little nervous. Like, we were dissing someone that was so big. Yeah.

She would have went that route. Of course. I think she would have still said she regretted it, though, because whether it worked for her or destroy her career, it was lean. Because Beyonce hadn't did anything to her. Yeah, as a woman, as a person, I think you grow. Yeah, as a person you grow and you mature, you look back at a lot of shit.

Like, that was so unnecessary. Like, yes, I mean, I, I, I'm not saying she would have said, you know, I didn't write it and all of that. But I'm sure she would have still, you know, what, 15 years later, 16 years later? I'm like, I don't think she would still be standing on that bar. Like, yeah, I said it. Like, that would just be absolutely crazy for to do that. Yeah.

And I mean, a lot of stuff she put on Polo, like, I don't know if this is true. My album was an out yet. So it was like, you're not coming out if you didn't do this. I made that mistake, which, again, maybe this did happen behind closed doors. But I also don't think a producer like Polo de Dawn that already had so much. results was like you have to dis Beyonce or we're not putting you out. Someone had the talent of Carrie Hilsen and had record, like, I find that a little odd too.

But then Esardine had came out and went on IG and said, you know, I'm not going to read the entire thing. But more or less that she didn't feel great about it either because, you know, it's not against women empowerment and sticking together. But she said she wrote like four or five verses to that. Submitted all of them. Wasn't even there. And that's the one they picked.

So like, what do you want for me? I gave you a bunch of different versions. That's the one you picked. then Kerry Hilsen replied and said, don't say co-wrote. Everything on there except for three lines that weren't even part of the disc I wrote. You wrote the entire thing.

So what is Esther Dean supposed to say? It's still co-written. Yeah, but I've never seen someone trying to take publishing away from themselves, Carrie. Yeah, but all of this shit is like, I get it. People still talking about things. All right, so give her all the pub. It's Beyonce.

I get it, but it's been 15, 60 years, man. Like, do people even really care about this shit still? Carrie cares. It's still brought up in a niche community of music lovers. Every time Carrie Wilson opens her mouth, Kerry Wilson, Carrie Hilson. I'm about saying, who the fuck is Carrie Wilson? I'm thinking about Sierra, I'm sorry. Anytime Carrie Hilson opens her mouth, people are reminded like, damn, that voodoo really worked.

Every single time, it's always bought up. Every single time she's in any interview, comments, everything. So she knows, she knows it's a big thing. It sucks because it would have been nice to see her have a career, like, like a, she had a career, but to have like a longer career. But then again, who's to say if she didn't, this Beyonce, that she wouldn't have went away anyway? We always say that.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Like people, even when people, and this is not, no, I don't even, actually, I'm not even going to say that. But there are people that have died that people are like, oh, she would have been the biggest thing. And it's like, you don't know that. We've had so many pop girls that were huge and then we never heard from them again. Yeah, people love doing that though.

Yo, so-and-so didn't die. This person wouldn't blow. It was like, fam, that's a lot of dudes that's still alive from the era that ain't. shit ain't shit and they was that guy a lot of trash music trash albums trash it's like so we're not gonna just make it seem like that person would have been on top or this it's like I hate when people do that that's just like a talk because you can't prove it because the person's no longer here unfortunately but I mean carry had knock you down with neo and conier like I thought that record was no she hasn't carrie Wilson has some record a pretty girl rock was fire she has some records yeah

but one could make the case that it just was never the same after that yeah I get it I understand I think it's cool that you're owning up to it and regretting it. I think that type of top is fine. Do you think, so as far as the Esther Dean, because Carrie's thing is like, this is 16 years. Like, this has been a long time. Why? Like, you could have been, came out and say, oh, Carrie ain't right with that. Right, that I wrote it.

But I mean, I guess the owner still falls on Carrie because you knew what that was about when you went into the studio and you laid that track down, whether you wrote it or not. So. And I feel like, and again, no disrespect to Carrie Wilson. I think Esther Dean is like, that's the record you're talking about. Like, look at my catalog. Do you think I even think about that remix at all when I have drop it low, super base, love suicide, another life. No, Kerry Wilson had records.

No, I'm saying from Esther Dean's side. Like, do you think Esther Dean is thinking about that fucking remix? No, but she's diamond records. Yeah, Esther Dean, I mean, if you know, you know, a lot of people don't know who Esther Dean is and, you know, like I said, a lot of new people outside and, you know, they don't know. But if you know Esther Dean, you know she has hits. She's written some of the biggest records that we have that we've heard.

So, I mean, I just don't like people bringing up. Because I know Kerry, obviously, she doesn't do a lot of interviews and doing Breakfast Club. Like, you kind of figure they are going to bring that up. But I know she wants to get past that. Like, she has to be tired of that just hanging over her. Oh, for sure. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, yeah, she said it.

and, you know, whatever. You know, maybe she wanted a back and, well, she probably did want her back and forth with Beyonce. That would have been probably worse. Yeah. But, and also, if you're submitting three different ideas, like, Esther was probably just trying shit in the booth and sent it to polo. Yeah.

Like, all right, if you want to go this route, this is what I, like, that's not her fault if you were submitting a bunch of stuff and you guys decide to pick the diss one. Like, it's a bunch of different ideas. And Esther wrote Rude Boy that year. I don't think she was gay a fuck. Yeah. At all. Facts.

wrote sex therapy from Robin Thich. And Back to the Crib. Remember, y'all don't remember Back to the Crib? One of the rapiest hooks of all time. Yeah, I know. That's what Esther should be coming to the podium for, not this and Beyonce. She don't even know that we're going back to the crew. Yeah, it was wild times, man.

You know what I'm saying? She wrote Sex Therapy. That's one of my favorite songs in the world, like Top 50 favorite songs in the world. She wrote Sex Therapy by Robin Thick. Oh, that's a classic. Yeah, Sadeen is not tripping about nothing. She's good. She's comfortable.

Yeah. And I mean, shit, some of the biggest Chris Brown records ever. That was the one two punch was her and Chris. But damn, Invented Head by Chris Brown. Y'all wasn't there back in them days. Invented Head? Demarest, you was 14 years old. When Invented Head came out, I think I was around 14, actually. Yeah, I was a ninth grade. 14 years old. You ain't know nothing about no head. Sit at the head of the class. That's what you do and do your goddamn homework. No, Carrie Hilsen, Trey Songs and Usher, I'm about to re-invent. sex. Carrie got him like, what's next?

What? And I'm going to make it my duty to have you so woozy you think I invented X. Please. Y'all wasn't outside, you weren't outside. You was nine years old.

He was a definition of him. What are you talking about? Who wasn't a? You were not outside. I was on Facebook tweeting the lyrics. Because that was back before your parents was on Facebook.

Your parents wasn't on Facebook. So my old Facebook statuses are insane. Talking crazy. You would have been one of them girls that was on IG Live and their father coming in a room with the belt and start tearing ass up. You would have definitely been one of them little girls. I can see Demaris getting her ass beat on IG Live. I can see it.

Saying you invented sex when your parents are. It's impossible. No, they invented you with sex. You don't think I invented sex. Kids shit. Get off your fucking Facebook. Oh, my God. Trying to get poked.

Kids shit. Trying to get poked. The breakfast club was reigniting so many beefs over the past week. They had J-Rul on the Breakfast Club, which I encourage everyone to listen to that entire interview. It was a really good, just like breakdown of Jaws history. And they did a great job of that interview. But of course, the only clip that came from a well-researched, well-designed interview was some messy shit. Yeah.

While J-Rul was actually being very mature about the entire thing. Course 50-cent got brought up. And I'll summarize what I took from Jaws quote. He was like, we're both rich, both of families. Like, we've all moved on. We're never going to be cool. Everyone just let it go. Yeah.

I think a lot of it was for, you know, the words that 50 had when Earth passed, Jai was speaking to some of that. And, you know, naturally Jai would be upset about some of the things that 50 was saying. And then, you know, Charlemagne doing his job, you know, well, can't you understand why 50 would fill the way he filled? And, you know, the job was like, we had nothing to do with that. Like, you know what I mean? So, again, this is all shit that, you know, these guys have, they've probably been in beef longer than half of their lives at this point. Yeah.

You know, at some point, it's just like, what are we doing, man? We all approaching 50 years old, if not already 50 years old. At some point, we got to just move on past shit. 50 and Jal will never be cool. We know that. I don't think anybody's going to see a reunion. Nobody. I don't think anybody's asking 50 in Jaya to be cool.

Both gentlemen can exist. Obviously, Jop's still doing this thing. 50 is doing his thing. And, you know, just leave it there, man. I don't think we just need to be rehashing old things and, you know, bringing up conversations and names and things like that, throwing it into the mix at this point in both of these gentlemen's lives. Like at some point we got to move past all of this shit.

I mean, once I was listening and I mean, Jai did say his initial reaction when he saw what 50 had said about Irv, which was anyone grieving a friend would feel the same way. Absolutely. Yeah, what the fuck? I felt Jocked for the first time took a very mature route. But the whole time I'm listening, I'm like, Jai, you think this is the mature route?

You think that matters to Curtis Jackson? Right. you could say, 50, you're the greatest. You killed my career. You're amazing. And 50 is going to clown you off that statement. He's not going to be like, yo, it's cool. What's done is done.

We can't, no. That's not 50. That's going to go right. No matter what the statement is. Yeah, that's not his nature. So, you know, Jock can't win for losing in that case. But yeah, they went back and forth on Twitter for the whole weekend, which I thought on both sides, like, I get it.

But why are we doing this? Yeah. It's just, it's over. It's not even that it's over. It's just like, bro, it's a whole. wave of people outside now that just were like probably eight years old when all of this stuff. Right.

Like, they haven't had to phone. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Some of them weren't even a lot. Yeah. Like, it's just like, come on, man. Like, we got to get past this shit.

Um, we get it. I understand that it'll never be peace and love between John 50. I'm not even, I don't think I'm asking for that. Um, I just don't want to see, you know, anything happen. Like, that would be super corny at this point. So, no, that's worse. Let that shit be what it is. That's what John was even saying too.

He just had, he had feelings of that like anyone would. Yeah. you know, what are we going to do in this? We're old. Yeah. Like, this is dumb. I get it. But it'll never die.

I just thought maybe they could take us out of the group chat like everyone else. Nah. 50 take us out of the group chat? No way. We in this group chat for the life. I don't even know if I want to cover the game in Kanye, Twitter fiasco over the weekend because I'm just not trying to cover Kanye's tweets, but another person.

Kanye, you thought game was just going to read the tweets and be like, I'll take the high road. Yeah. That doesn't happen. Like, if you were talking. looking for attention, Kanye, you picked the right person. Yeah, anytime you say. You never let this go for the other.

And I felt game, though. It's like, I ain't ask you for those two cars. Like, you're throwing it out there like I'm coming. Like, bro, I didn't ask you for those two cars. In fact, when you get, handed me the keys, I was like, oh, no, I don't want this. And you, you insist it. Like, so you can't, you can't do that and then be like, yeah, well, you like in a picture with somebody that threatened my life.

Like, yeah, like, I guess I'm not executive producing this. And, you know, I gave you two cars. It's like, you don't throw that in the pot. Because I didn't ask you for those. those two cars. It makes, I mean, not that we need anything to make Kanye West look corny at this point, but now you're making yourself look corny in that you're giving gifts with loyalty. Yeah, like what type for men? Like, it's like, come on with this shit, man. Like, that's what I'm saying. And these are supposed to be the OGs. Well, I'm just saying he's supposed to be the ones that

the, you know, the new generation is looking up to for, you know, guidance and how to move and how to act and things like that. And then this is the shit that's happening. It's like, you know, I mean, I understand what Kanye is trying to do to an extent. He's trying to push the envelope of, you know, y'all push this type of message, you know, push this message that I'm pushing in. If y'all want to push Black Death and this, that, I understand it. Oh, no, out of like a hundred tweets, he'll catch one where I'll be like, well, he's making a point.

Yeah, no. And we understand that. But there's 99 that kind of trump everything that's saying. Yeah, it's like, bro, what is this about? And now you mad the game like the picture and it's just like, come on, man. Like, this shit is, again, too old. These, too old for this type of shit. I'm shocked.

When did this happen? on Friday, Thursday, it's now April 14th. I am so shocked we have not gotten a 10-minute disc from Game. I've been refreshing my Twitter because I can't wait for it. This is my favorite type of game. Yeah, man. Because game is going to say some shit that's over the line and we already know the history that they have. And yeah, this could get messy, I mean, in like a lyrical way, not in a.

Yeah. I don't think Kanye is realizing what he's signing up for when it comes to game. No. This could be very, very messy, especially with. the people in your family that game has met. Battle of the trolls. He's met the family. That's all I'll say.

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I was so excited. thousands. I'm sorry people. It was such a good era. Everyone's copying from it. But, Maul, you remember, I don't know, maybe like six months ago, we were discussing the Ali interview with Vlad, Ali from the St. Lunatics. Yep. That had said that he wrote the whole song, Country Grammar, plus like 60, 70% of the album Country Grammar, that a lot of those songs were St. Lunatic songs that Nelly went and shopped as a solo artist and got signed based off his work. Right. I encourage everyone to check out that Vlad interview. It was kind of nuts and Ali did not come off as a liar whatsoever.

So he sues Nellie after that entire thing because all the comments were like, all right, we get it, but why the fuck did you not sue in this regard? So we went and sued him. It was thrown out yesterday, $50 million lawsuit against Nellie. The court said, there's not enough here. You're just going to force Nellie to go have to pay for a lawyer and go through litigations and this expensive trial for months for no reason because you have no evidence. Damn.

But there's also. Also in this article says no one has commented on if there was a settlement outside of court. I mean, and Nelly probably was like, yo, listen, let's just. Because Ali did mention in that Vlad interview, like, they had stayed cool. Like he even up until, you know, before that interview, he was like, yeah, we're just working out. He was saying he was going to give me 30K or he was going to make good on this song with 60K or 70K. He was saying like specific records that him and Nelly were discussing. maybe that Vlad interview put pressure on Nellie

like PR-wise and he settled with. I could see that. I mean, we got to get to the point where we just are honest about why people don't work with friends enough or more because you go through things like this and people love to say, oh, the music industry is fucked up. No, the people in the music industry are fucked up.

It's the people that make the industry. So this is another case of, you know, got it out the mud together, childhood friends. You obviously got a breakout star. So fuck it. We're going to push everything behind you because the objective here is for us to just not, you know, be in the same position, living in the same conditions. We want a better life. And if we come together as a collective and get there, but you're the face, you're the star. You know, it takes a lot for somebody to humble themselves and be like, yo, my homeboy is a star.

I had dreams aspirations at one point. doesn't look like it was going to pan out, let him go. But then you're supposed to be the guy that says, listen, you know, this was my team. These were the guys that I was writing with. These were the guys writing a lot of my stuff. I have to take care of them. It's my responsibility to take care of my team and my circle and my people. But more times than none, we see things down with, you know, friends or old friends got to go to court and got to sue and bring people involved.

And then this legal matters. And when do we get to the point where it's like that doesn't. happen. You don't see very... You have to take the human aspect out of the entire thing. No, but because that's ego, that's selfishness. But there are people that have people that they greed. They want, but they do good business with each other. Yeah, of course. We see them. We see, we see more examples of it not being that way, but we do see examples of people doing right by their people behind them, the people that work with them, the people they came in with, they grew up with, their circle. Like, we see people do right by their team. It's just, you know, it's just, you know,

Well, sometimes the case is everyone doesn't have the information going into a situation like the music business. They weren't taught when they were growing up how to enter the music business. And sometimes labels take advantage of the guy they think is a star, and they don't even know the paperwork going on is fucking over their whole crew. And don't even have the power to change it at that point once they figured out. This situation based off that Vlad interview doesn't sound like the case. Because Ali said they all in agreement that no one was going to go out to do the solo thing. Ali said he had gotten offers as a solo artist with some of those records already. He said, no, that's the crew.

Nellie went and linked up with Mesa's manager and started shopping those records around. And Vlad brought up the point that you were saying, like, oh, he brought the crew with him. And Ali was like, no, no, no, that wasn't the case. It was because all of those records from country grammar, we had wrote those for him. He couldn't take us off. He wasn't like, yo, come on, friends. The records he had were ours. So that's why they were on the album.

It wasn't like off some sheer friendship. He was doing some grimy backdoor shit. And then took all the pub. Yeah, it's just. And again, I don't know that to be true. That was just what Ali said in the interview. That's just, ah, that's, those are some hit records. Like, there's not a skip on that country.

Life changing music. Life changing records. Life change in sales. Like. Going to sound like a nuts, nuts comparison. But during that first Nelly album, like with the batter up shit and a bunch of the St. even the version of Rock the Mike that we love from Nellyville. There was Wutang comparisons, not that they were Wutang.

But Dan, we've never seen eight rappers with a star like this. Nellie had hits with seven people on it. That was rare at that time for radio. Batter up, they fielded the entire field. They had a center field or right field. They had a whole crew. Everyone had a verse. Just don't ever compare that to Wutang.

I'm saying you were outside at that time. Oh, 100%. There was no one saying like, damn, we haven't seen. this since Wootang. I'm not saying they were Wooten. Right. But when had you seen a rap crew of that many members have a hit, the third single was batter up? Right, and everybody getting off.

Yes. You know, it was... Murphy Lee coming. Like, it started to feel like, oh, all right, it's Nelly, then it's going to be Murphy Lee. Right. And these guys are already on hits from his first record. It's just a matter of time for each of these guys to get a solo project or this to become a brand of the St. Lunatics. That was a thing. Even the dude with the mask was like, oh, dirty bastard.

that time. Who's that? It's crazy to start power than Nellie. I remember the first time I saw that video was it, uh, what was it? Uh, down, down, baby, country ground. The first time I saw that, the first time I heard that song is when I saw the video. Okay. And I'm looking at the video, I remember it. I'm like, who is this? We would legitimately sit at the radio just waiting for that to be like. I knew the first time Nellie, that video came on on BET. I knew he was a star. Never heard nothing like it, never saw nothing like his style and everything. Heard anyone talk like that? St. Louis. I was like

I didn't even know they rapped in St. Louis. This is the early 2000s. I was like what? Like never it's just amazing to see him go from that to where his career took him and you know he tried. He did the country thing. He did that. But Bono-Fi superstar, but it is

fucked up for him to, you know, if what Ali and the rest of these guys are, a legend is true. It is fucked up to see Nelly do it. people like that. That's like, that's totally like, come on, man. Like you, you, you really from, you know, the struggle, the inner city, you know what I'm saying? Like, you really from a place where it's tough and it's rough. So you knew what it was for all of y'all coming up and for you to make it and, you know, all of this money that, you know, you made and all of these records

you sold. And if, you know, your team and your guys wrote a lot of these songs, you've got to take care of the team, bro, you have to. And I mean, to Ali's story, he found all of them. He was the, he's the oldest in the crew and put all them together, taught everyone how to rap. That's why he was writing everyone's verses in the beginning. So, yeah, you got to do right by that. Hopefully. Because again, if they didn't, I feel for Ali, because it would be tough, you're not documenting anything at that time. You're learning as you going about that. You're like, I don't really have evidence. Yeah, like, we don't need, we don't need. That's why I love that. I love that Quincy Jones, the rest of the piece of the legendary Quincy Jones, love his documentary

how he talked about how him and Frank Sinatra did business. Never had a contract. Never should looked each other in the eyes, shook hands, and never had a problem, you know, from that, from the first day they worked together, like, it's just fucked up that friends, quote unquote, family, you know, go through shit like this. Yeah, but if you see who was behind Frank and who was behind Quincy, it, it would have been a war. Neither of them could do bad business with each other. It would have been blood in the streets. They were killing presidents. There would be no Vegas. They were killing presidents. Like, you think we're talking about a verse?

Yeah, fuck that verse. Yeah, fuck that verse, man. We'll kill a president tomorrow fucking with us. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. Hey, what's up, Pod? Big fan of the show. Much love, baby Dee.

Maul, Rory. I'm calling because I just broke up with my girl. We're together for four and a half years, up and downs, you know. I'm recently single, and I'm kind of in a rut. I want to take a trip this summer. It's going to be a solo. trip and I don't know where to go. So I wonder if you guys were taking the trip this summer by yourselves anywhere in

the world where we got go. And then mall, there's that story with your suitcase and the bad wheel. I'm taking the trip to summer, as I mentioned earlier, my suitcases are the miscellaneous suitcases you leave it in your garage. Put me on game. Let me know what are some good brands. to look for. Appreciate it.

Oh, yeah, he got the, he got the suitcase in a garage. Yeah, you got to get some new. Yeah, you got to get some new wheels, fam. Go get you a good, you know, I don't know. He might need to go to Target. Go to Target. He sounds like he ain't, you know, he ain't traveling much. Go get some cheap luggage, man.

Go to Target. But as a single, a newly single die going on a vacation to summer, there's only two options. D.R. or Columbia? No, no, do not. Do not go. If you're going for that purpose, save your money and just go to Dykeman and get what you were going to No, no, no, no, you're not understanding. Find a whore out there.

You're not understanding. You're not understanding. You're not understanding. See, this is what you're talking about Dyk. No, that's New York. You got to go to the third world countries where they appreciate $50. You know what I'm saying? You go there.

Anything. Oh, my God. Listen, go to DR or Columbia, bring a bunch of condoms. You know what I'm saying? Bring some change. As much change as you can, $300 go a long way in Columbia. man just have you some fun but yeah enjoy yourself man go somewhere where you could just you know be around some women you know some sun some some water ain't newly single just enjoy yourself

man you shouldn't go to like i don't know south america for an iawaska to find himself and like get over his issue not not yet not yet do that after pound it out do that after columbia so you can you can strip yourself of all of those memories that be go to columbia go crazy of all STD yeah go to columbia no that's what i said bring a lot of condoms protect yourself but But go have fun, man. And then if you want to, you know, get rid of wash those demons away, then you go to Toulomb or somewhere Costa Rica next year, take an ayahuasca ceremony. They're in Costa Rica, too.

Oh, yeah, but I mean, you know, you want to get rid of the Columbia and DR. Let's not just put that on DR in Columbia. Yes, you can fuck prostitutes there at a premium rate. But there's also other things to do. Oh, no, it's great food. Like, Colombia, I mean, I've never been to Columbia, but I guarantee there's a lot of stuff that you're sight seeing. You can get your teeth done.

You can get all kinds of shit, man. Yeah, man. go to Columbia have fun man thousand dollars you live like a fucking king thousand dollars show that new smile to your ex yeah thousand dollars you come back you a whole new person after Columbia man

go have fun what's the number one on your your travel list or bucket list so for solo travel solo travel solo travel um solo's tough Bali I'm stuck in bow remember rustle with that shit no flights coming in go

yeah rest still stuck in Bali I went to flight tracker.com That was like, yeah, there's six flights leaving today. You can catch this one right now, Russ. I hope you would go to Bali by your own choice. Me? Yeah, like you weren't forced out. Oh, no, yeah, no.

I'm not being forced. No, but Bali is one of the places I want to visit. Fiji Islands, I definitely want to go. Yeah. But a solo trip, I don't know if I'd want to do that. I feel like Fiji I'd like to experience with somebody. Definitely want to do Japan. Yeah.

Gotta see Japan, man. That shit is like a video game. I got to see Japan. I don't know if that was racist or not. No, they have, they have a lot of, I know exactly what you're like. It's like very clean. It's very, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like a real place in the world. Like, yeah.

Gotta see Japan. Definitely want to see Japan. I'm, my solo trips. Japan, Bali. Japan, I would love for a solo trip. Yeah. I get a lot done by myself moving around out there. I can be weird and nobody won't know me.

Like I can just, you'd stick out. I mean, I would, but I mean, you don't know me. You might clean up out there too. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going there for that, road. You by yourself. I'm going there just to enjoy the culture, just enjoy the experience of Japan. But Japan, Bali, definitely on the top of my, in Africa.

Africa, absolutely. I definitely want to go to Egypt. I want to go to South Africa as well. Just to experience, you know, different parts of Africa. Yeah, that's what kind of sucks, like, with how long life is and how big the world is and how much money costs on its own, like to be able to do. Yeah. Because I can think of a thousand places that I want to go.

Yeah. Who is the town? It's a conscious. She's got to work until you die. Exactly. Look at us. Heart attack. Just work until we die, man.

Because, yeah, I'd love to take a month to just go to Australia. That sounds amazing. Oh, yeah, Australia. Yeah, that's definitely one of those. Probably make great memories, you know, things I could take into my casket. Loving life. Why would I do that? I'd rather just sit here and work and pay taxes and die.

Yeah. That's what you're here for. Exactly. I would do Costa Rica solo trip. And I actually want to go to Arizona, funny enough. I want to go to Phoenix and I want to go to one of those they have so many like resort

like just like retreats down in Arizona like wellness retreat. There's a great like men's resort in Arizona. What's a men's resort? It's like a health resort. Like you go there you get a full physical spas. They jerk you after the physical?

They make you cough. Damn, you mad, freaked out. A men's resort sounds like I thought he was talking about like a whorehouse. No, it's a real health like go there you get a full physical exam. That's dope. Yeah, like you relax, a bunch of spas, you know, things like that.

But yeah, Arizona is, you can go to Arizona any weekend you can go to Arizona. Yeah. Arizona is really nice. Flagstaff's dope. What is the Santa Feet? Scottsdale. Scottsdale is great. What's that like lake that's between Nevada and Arizona?

It's in both. The IG chicks just found out about it, so I need to get there soon. Lake Powell is very beautiful. It's Arizona, Utah. And it may touch like a side of, oh, no, it's just Utah and Arizona. I've been trying to get. That shit is beautiful. And like a quick domestic trip.

Like, you could do a long weekend in there and have fun. I've been trying to book a trip that I'm on Jerry in Utah, Canyon Point. That shit is always sold out. Every time I see an IG, Vixen do a photoshoot there, I'm like, how are y'all booking these rooms? I can't find a date that matches my schedule to book that shit for nothing. I've been trying for like a year and a half. Like it's just tough to book it, but it looks beautiful. I'm going to get there though.

I mean, I was thinking about a solo trip for my birthday, but it's less than three weeks away. I don't think I'll be able to do it. You can go somewhere. Yeah, and we have the week off. I mean, we have the whole weekend off. Yeah, but we have also, but it flows into the weekend. You have four days off in a row. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

Oh, yeah, because Tuesday. All right, yeah. I guess that would be five days. Yeah. You could do something, man. That Lake Powell shit might be kind of fun. How old are you turning this year? 35.

Damn. Sorry, my bad. I didn't say that. You don't want to know how old I'm turning this year. You're supposed to age. That's the point. That's the fact. It's a beautiful thing. It's a blessing, man.

It's a blessing. You'll be there soon. No way. Though she did already. She don't want to go out. She don't want to stand up for more than 12 minutes. And I'm about to freeze my eggs. You about to do what?

Freeze my eggs. Maybe. What? I have to, I'm a woman that wants to have kids eventually. You're 30. you're two weeks into 31 years old but that's still your eggs start dying at 25 yeah that's something you have

yeah don't your eggs die every period yes you lose them and I'm not getting anymore so yeah I have to start thinking about that freezing my eggs anything can happen do they tell me how like how many you have every no you have to I would have to go get that checked out and I'm really not really for them to go up in there yet but yeah I'm probably getting frozen

do you think you know the person you're going to have kids with like you got met already I used to think so but no not anymore. Okay. What about you? You're gonna freeze your sperm? Well, one of y'all fertilized my eggs?

Sorry, so that I'd take it last longer? Wouldn't you what? So when I go to freeze my eggs, fertilized eggs tend to last longer and do better. So like, well,

one of y'all fertilize, like half of them? But when you, like, put it back in, would we be the father? Yes. You think that I would give, wait,

maybe that you think that I would let you take my sperm and fertilize your egg? First of all, you got like, five more years left before, like, you start giving your kids at risk for autism and stuff. You have to freeze that sack, brother. Yeah.

Like, you, the older men are, the less healthy the kids are likely to be. I'm just saying. So, come on, we can have a kid. Little pie, baby. That just sounds like a terrible idea. It's a black mirror episode. That is a terrible idea. That is definitely a black mirror episode.

Oh, my God. Imagine that. You imagine the headlines if I donate my sperm to baby these eggs. Like, can you imagine that? Reddit would go crazy. First of all. There'd be a whole different Reddit just for that. Yo, Pete's bleak.

First of all kind of f***. It's like, we didn't even have sex. You just gave her sperm? That's like the president. Like, what type of shit is that? Did you have a kid? Like, nah. Yeah.

That is crazy. We have a little power, baby. I know some people that have, like, packs with their friends. Like platonic friends, yeah. I had one before this. She went out of baby. Damn. You broke the pack.

Wait, what was the age for the pack? Like, if we're both this age? If, if, because she's, I think, like, four years younger than me. So at the time, she was like when she was 35, which bought 30 and I was, I would have been turning 34, 35. She's like, what would you have a kid? I was like, yeah. And then like two years later, she had a kid. Broke the pack.

Yeah, she thought about that shit a little long thing. How long were you going to give her, too? So she turned 35? That's what she was. Okay, got you. She had introduced the idea of it. And I was like, yo, we're like super cool. I was like, yeah, why not?

I would. Oh, this is where I wish we had another mic. Maybe Pete or Josh could just yell. What traits do you think the baby would take from each of these? Do you think this would be a well-meshed baby as far as how they act? If I was a donate sperm, the baby these eggs? Yeah. Oh, no, that baby would be lit.

I think you guys would balance each other out well for the child. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that baby. No, baby, baby, I'm not, I'm going to be an absent father. No, for sure. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We both can't be absent, baby, Dee. Somebody has to be present. But you got a big family.

That's what I thought about. You do too. Like, Rory, you got a big family. You do too. You own your phone with one of your sisters every day. I don't know which one. But you got 400 and one fuckers, though. That's true.

And your nephew is so well raised. He's amazing, like. But what that got to do with you taking this kid? No, I ain't doing that. What? No, I'm not the primary parent. You're the primary parent. How?

You're the one that's carrying a baby. Yeah, for nine months. And then for 18 years, it's on you. Hell, no. That just sounds crazy. I don't think that's how that works. See, that's crazy. The American tradition is the father of him.

You're going to carry the seed for nine months and then be like, yo, I'm cool. But what's so funny about the scenario is you guys are planning to abandon your child. Not that I understand that people abandon their kids, but when shit happens, you'd be like, all right, he didn't want that baby. The shit happened. So he jetted. You guys are going to science to create a child to then abandon. Yeah, but look how it starts.

I am donating. I am the donor. It's a personal donation, though. Yeah, I am depositing into Baby D's account. Yes. Of her egg, right? She then carries the egg. Yeah, she carries the egg.

She can't just leave the egg once it happens. You make more money to me. Like in a child support war, I would lose because you make more money to me. No, no, we don't got to go there. Imagine if a woman went to a sperm, bank with the intention to abandon her child. I just want to have it, but I don't want it. They're going to be like, I don't.

No, it's just. Yeah, like. How you're a surrogate for a surrogate for a surrogate? There's a difference between being up. You don't abandon, but not the primary parent. Like when it comes to like when the kid wants something, it needs to go to daddy first. All right. So here, here's what we do.

If it's a girl, you have to keep it. Because I can't, I can't raise a woman. I would not want my daughter. raised by you, so agree. Wait, wait, hold on. What that mean? You just said you can't raise a girl. Because I would have to kill one of these little YNs out here. I don't want to do that. That's the only reason. So you want to raise one? A Y end? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely raising a Y in for sure. But if it's a boy, I'll take it. I'll raise him. What's funny is I think he'd get all his violence from DeMaris. I'd be more scared of his mother's side in a situation. Like to make an

irrational impulse decision to murder me. Yeah. I'm definitely going with DeMerey. aside. Yeah, so you have to raise it if it's a girl. Cool. I think that should be a thing anyway. That's it. No, girls need their fathers. Girls need their fathers. Absolutely. But I'm saying like if y'all, if the parents break up split, like, you know, we get separate households, we don't live together. I think that if it's a daughter, she should still have a bond and a life with the father. But primary residence, who raises her, I think should be the mother. And if it's a boy, I think he should live under.

his dad's roof. Girls, the age 12 through 17, need to be with their fathers. Like every day? Yes, they need to be with their fathers. Damn, like parenting? Yeah. Why, though? What do you mean why?

That's when they need y'all the most. That's when they need y'all at most. That's when they need to be reassured the most, that male attention they need the most. No, but you still, I'm not saying like the father is completely, I'm saying as far as live in the house. You ever seen a 13-year-old girl argue with her mother? That should have shake the neighborhood. You've got to have a twin sister. You think I've never seen the 13.

Exactly. Exactly. This was a diplomat of the house. Yeah. I had to grow up fast. And if your daddy would have been off that stuff, your sister would have left and went with him immediately. I'm telling you, she would have asked her.

She would have been gone. Yeah. It did as a point where mothers and daughters clash. Yeah. Them teenage years, it's tough. It's like, as soon as your first period. As soon as that first period happened, that's it. That's it.

It's over. now it's like two women fighting for like I've seen it I'm just telling me what I'm kissing on trees who got the who got the smarter mouth who got the bigger attitude who had a last that last last last

word you don't want to know how many times my house shook up and down for the last one I'm like why don't tell you both shit shut the fuck up just both of y'all shut the fuck up and now they're both mad at you I'm 14 like both of y'all shut the fuck up just let it go

Like, yeah, it's crazy. That's a real thing. I don't know what it is about teenage. It's like, we just become monsters. My mother's thing used to be Damarisis. I was like, okay. Okay. She's like, Demeris, I swear to God, say, okay, one more motherfucket of times.

Yeah, it's the last. Y, y'all want that last last. You know how many battles I've seen over the last? I'm like, yo, we talk about a box of cereal. This started at a box of cereal. And now we all the way here. Like, what are we talking about? But then raising a teenage boy, you have to think,

factor in all the towels that you can crack in half. by the end of the week. It's going to be fucking semen everywhere. Nah, that was never... Like, do you want a quiet house with dirty towels or a loud one with, you know, a tampon or two? Now, me and my mom used to always, like, our thing was always, like, just me, like, coming in the house late after a while. Like, that was my mom.

Like, I was just started hanging out in the streets, like... You've been a whore. No, but it wasn't even that. It was, like, literally just being outside, like, with the, with the homies. Like, we go on to Brooklyn. We go on the Queens. And we're taking the train. It's two in the morning.

And my mom's like, what are you? How are you? You think you were just coming here at three, four in the morning? Like, what's? And it's like, yo, we would do. I'm not saying nothing wrong with it. But looking back, I understand why my mother was so. Yeah.

It's crazy. You know what it is to be on the train at three in the morning as a 16-year-old black kid? Yeah. And she can't sleep. Like, as a parent, you can't sleep. Yeah. So that was my thing. That was my.

And then the girls, you know, come bringing the girls to the house. That was a thing. But my mom's thing was better than bringing the boys to the house. So, you know what I'm saying? That was just like. Jesus Christ. It was just that part of it. So we've decided what we're going to do,

depending on if it's a boy or a girl, with that agreement, let's say we get to 15, and a transition wants to happen. Does the household transit? You can't help yourself? Can't you? You can't help us?

Like transitions from boy to girl? I knew we were going to take that out. Anyways. Pigeon keep it on me. Okay, do we guys, go back over. I got you. Just watch.

Because why? Because we're sitting right there. Okay. Do we have names that we can agree on? We already know where the boy or the girl is staying. Do you have boy names? Yeah. I got boy names.

What's your boy names? I think I want a junior. Not naming my kid Jamal, but it's spelled Jamil. I'm not doing it. Why? He's Muslim. You take a shahadah. Yeah.

Take a shahada. Yeah. Raise a bit. Muslim baby. Yeah. I can see you turn a Muslim. She needs one month with Kevin Gates. You know, right?

Kevin got Britney draped. I might be the only person. I might be the only person ever stressed Kevin Gates out. Kevin wouldn't stress me out. I would stress Kevin. He seems like your type. I don't mean that a bad way. I'm serious.

He's a challenge. I love a challenge. Yeah. Y'I would argue all fucking day. Yeah, Kevin Gates and Demiris? Yeah, that's an argument. Wait in. Do you have girl names?

She gave us girls. names before then maybe Alexander or Anastasia Jamaris For the left Bill I like Jamaris

No you don't No you do not You don't like Jamaris You can still be a junior Jamaris Jr And it's like what is The boy and girl Like it's a unisex name

We saw the Smiths do it Look how that turned up Two creative kids Two creative kids absolutely Yeah we're gonna have a kid That talk too fucking much Two podcasters can't have a kid Kid won't shut the fuck up

No that kid's gonna be head fight It's funny because it's funny It's funny because I mean, Rory knows. I only talk here. Yeah. I'm saying, no, I only talk here. I don't talk to nobody outside of this shit. I talk to the same four people every day, probably.

Outside of these walls. Because I have a word count, like a Twitter word count. And it usually ends here. Yeah. Go home and be quiet. Yeah, I talk to my nephew, like, he's one of the four people I speak to every day. And he's, I old is my nephew? Five?

Nine. Nine? Nine. Damn. I told him every day. He's one of the few people I talk to every day. A nine. year old. I'm told to nobody. Fuck y'all.

Am I by proxy just the godfather? Is that just how yeah, absolutely. Nah, because if he go broke, you go broke too. I need somebody that's not connected. What you mean? I need somebody who we can't all have the same. No. Yeah. No, because if we get canceled

because Rory can't stop mentioning the goddamn then no, the godfather. I've never referred to them as that. Neither one. The goddamn. The goddamn keep coming up in here. Bindon. Bion. all the good with right christmas man's hair like you know damaris is fucking crazy just bleep bleep it off i'm sorry but yeah did we what was the voicemail no we got him right i told him go to oh yeah go to columbia d r you know what i mean go to just get you some bullshit luggage man

don't worry about it go to uh target or go to uh what's the other not target uh walmart t j max tj max tj max target target's probably gonna have some expensive luggage though no i mean just you some you know just black something stir durable this is not an ad but tell volume they owe us one away luggage is affordable and great yeah absolutely i've ran my away luggage into the ground over the last five years how do you spell it away away a w a why yeah create a code just for the fuck of it yeah just for the fuck of it credit code these are these are the ads that work when you say shit like we'll leave a amazon link in our description yeah man just good do that go to columbia d r take you about you know a thousand dollars spending cash if you have if not five

$100 to do. Just have fun for like four days. Just journal out there. Yeah, just get your mind right. You know what I'm saying? Make sure, you know, like I said, keep yourself protected and have fun, man. Enjoy yourself.

All right. All right. Well, it's been good talking to you guys. Now it's time for me to shut up for the rest of the evening. Pige, is there like an AI program that we can see what the baby would look like between Mole and Demaris? Because, I mean, to me, that's the only thing. I was thinking that, yo.

I was thinking, yes, that was what you were thinking, Peach? You over there, in your little lair. They were saying me and Ma'amore. like. See, that's racist. That is racist. When my face was chunkier, they said me, I look like a female mall. We don't look alike. I'm like, mall literally has a twin. I look nothing like her.

Yeah, we don't, we don't look alike. That's just them being racist, but it's all good. All right, well. Peach, have me cut in the umbilical cord. Yeah, that'll work. That's the Godfather. That's the Godfather. That's the Godfather doities right there. No, it's not. It is.

Pete, I'm going to check that movie out. I don't know if I go today, probably tomorrow. Check that movie out. I need a good movie. There's another good movie out that I saw the trailer for Amateur? What's that about? Yeah.

There's a guy whose girlfriend was killed by some people, and he's like a nerdy tech guy, and he wants to become a killer to get revenge. Oh, yeah, this guy. I like this guy. Lawrence Fishburn's in it. Who else is in it? What's my guy's name that's in the accountant? His brother, Ben Affleck's brother.

Casey Affleck. No, not his real brother. Oh. The guy in the accountant that's been. been Affleck's brother in the accountant. He's in it. And it was somebody else that was in the trailer that I saw, Lawrence Richburn, him and somebody else. And I was like, damn, that's a lot of this big name, big name actors. But I had never heard of it. I was just looking and trying to go to the movies. I'm like, damn, I haven't been to the movies in a minute. Didn't know what was out. I'm waiting for Michael B. Jordan's Center. It comes out Thursday. You guys want to go after work? No, to see Center. Yeah. As a group. Yo, he's going to find everything. No, no, no. Thursday's too soon to find a way to cancel. I know.

Because I know I have to do some Thursday. No, for real, because 420 is this weekend, so it's a lot of, like, what shit going on? No, seriously. Yeah, that's 417, though. It's the weekend of 420. It's the Easter weekend. No, serious.

Y'all making jokes and I'm dead serious. But it's another movie, the center and something else that I was trying to. King of Kings? No, not that. Drop? No, no, it was the count two. The Count two is coming out. 20 good.

Okay. I binge the entire black mirror over the weekend. How was that? It was good. I liked it better in the last season. Yeah. How was Issa's episode? It was really, really good.

Yeah, ESA smoked that. Lesbian scenes. It's great. Yeah, I got to check it out. What I watched? Hmm? I watched. The whole thing,

making out with a chick for 45 minutes. What is the documentary about the social influencer kids and the mother end up being like a petto? Oh, that's on my cue that I can't spell. It's like influence babies. Yeah. Influencer. Infobababies, some shit like that.

Yeah, influx of babies. I don't know what the fuck that shit was called, but I watched that. It's three episodes. I watched that. It was pretty interesting. I think the mom was obviously a pet on a piece of shit, but whatever. And I also watched. Whatever.

Whatever. I watched Baddy's Reunion, Part 1 came out. Oh, I see. That's what I'm watching tonight. Oh, my God. You got to watch. You got to watch. Shout out to Tinka.

Tinka's pregnant. Congrats to Tinka. Of course. Come on. No, we've been waiting. Yeah. we've been waiting for taking us. We have to do a watch part for Baddy's.

We've been waiting. Who's been waiting for taking a kid pregnant? Wait, when is the next Batty's reunion? Because I think I am going to set up a watch party for y'all to watch that, figure out how to do that. Next Sunday. It's next Sunday. It's every Sunday. I think it's going to be three parts.

But part one came out this past weekend and watched that. One of our tech nerd listeners DME so that we can figure out how to do that. Because I think that that would. To advertise that, which you guys would be a big thing. We've done it for the Grammys on Discord, but because Zeus is subscription-based, I'm not sure we'd have to figure out. Yeah. But either way, I'm more than down. Oh, no.

You got to watch part one. Catch up. Oh, no, I'm watching. Slacking. I'm watching tonight. I'll be ready for part two. Don't worry. All right, cool.

Get ready. Now, I upgraded to the good Zeus, too. Yeah, yeah. Got to. You got to. So I'm going to see Senters alone on Thursday, April 17th. But see, you would like, see, I'll say yes, and then you'll flick. It's the 18th, though.

Where you said 17th? No, we can see it as early as Thursday to 17th. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got to. Crazy, right, that day? Slammed. Slammed. Slammed.

Schedule slammed. Slammed. All right, well, we'll talk to you on a couple days. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that sinner. He's just ginger. Peace.

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