New Rory & MAL - Episode 364 | Cousins

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

And we're back fresh off Easter Weekend and 4/20. Our conversation about Nas picking bad beats sparked a debate on social media so we responded to a few comments our listeners made on IG (30:41). Amanda Bynes joins the world of OnlyFans just for the purpose of "chatting" with her fans (38:48). Do we believe her? Mal asks Demaris about Tracee Ellis Ross' take on "toxic masculinity" and dating younger men (51:37). Rory's dream podcast guest Kevin Gates takes a shot at LeBron James and his marriage (1:03:58). Then the pod goes completely off the rails as Mal reads the lyrics to Ye's new track "Cousins" (1:12:17), Rory reads leaked text messages from the Shannon Sharpe sexual assault lawsuit (1:24:05), and a voicemail sparks a debate on whether or not a man giving oral to a woman without receiving a favor back is sucka behavior (1:43:05). #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. We are back. Happy Top of the week. Top of the top. Happy. Well, he is risen. He is. He is.

He rose? He rose. Set what's up to his moms and then died again. Mm-hmm. And now we have to go by, like, pink clothes and new. air forces and worship Easter bunnies. Yeah. And then go Easter egg hunting, even though bunnies don't lay whatever.

Yeah, where did it? I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know we've been lied to since we were this high. Yeah. And then we just pass it down to our children and our children and our children. But that makes sense though. I'm not hunting no live bunnies.

Like I don't want like baby bunnies to hunt. That's mad expensive and annoying. Like give me eggs. Lie to me. And you're not catching like a rabbit. Ow. No, some rabbits you can't catch. All rabbits are not like, they don't run from me.

not like, they don't run from you. I know people that have pet rabbits, you walk right up to them and they're just like. But they're domestic. I'm talking about the ones in the wilderness. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. You ain't catching no. You ain't catching no wild rabbit? I'm here.

I don't see cheetahs have a hard time catching wild rabbit. I feel like there's a cartoon based on this entire scenario. Yes, yeah. No, you're not catching no wild rabbit. I feel like if you use a gun on a rabbit, like that's your pussy. How much meat do you have left? You shoot in a rabbit. Yeah, how much meat is taking away half your meal?

How much, how much food do you have left after you shoot a rabbit with a 12 gauge? Like you don't have much With a 12 game Yeah you don't have much You don't have much meat To explode like a water Yeah it's not much meat left on the bone man Well with that said

Happy Easter Hope everyone Spents it with their families If they even celebrate it Yes If you see the comparison I think it's the first time Of our generation

That 420 and Easter fell in the same day Really And they actually are more aligned Than we think they are Because Easter is about resurrection And 420 is actually To celebrate

Resurrection The Spring And new ideas and new feelings because we just went through the winter. I read it on Twitter, so it's true. Yeah, absolutely. Come on, man. By a verified account that you can pay for. Yeah, absolutely. Come on.

Where else do you get your knowledge from these days? And he put it in a graphic. Mm-hmm. So I definitely believed it. Yeah, I have to believe it. It makes sense. It checks out. What's wrong about it?

Spring started a month ago. Who said? Jesus wasn't even, his birthday isn't even December 20th. Mm. We don't talk about that enough either. And that's like actually a fact. That's not like a conspiracy. It was just like, we'll go.

with this day. So how am I supposed to know this was the day that he rose? This is all old. Listen, man, the calendar is not even supposed to be 12 months. How much you want to get into this? Sunday is really the first day. Yeah, it's just like, come on, man. I don't know what to believe anymore. See, clearly I celebrated 420. Yeah. You look like, I tell in your eyes. No, I actually did smoke. Of course you did. Yeah, I got a small. But you know, I'm like a huge smoker, but yeah, I went to check Alchemists and Aster Club and that old thing. How was it? It was cool. Yeah? Did you get a vinyl? Um, no, because of the, I was a huge. Um, no, because they were sold out by the time I got there.

Damn. And I was like mid-D-J set, so I couldn't even like be like, yo. Let me get you got. Yo, you got one like in the car? Take yours off the needle. Take yours off the needle. Take yours off the needle. But no, it was cool.

I did, um, my 420 was cool. It was very, very music-based. Went and saw Alchemist, then went to an amusement park, then smoked again, and then saw Terrace Martin at Bluno. I was like, it was like a stoner's dream. Yeah, yeah. You had like a night. Eight mall, mall food.

Like, it was great. Yeah. What am amusement park did you go to? one in the American Dream. Oh, okay. Indoor one. Yeah. And here I was thinking like, oh, it's Easter.

No one's gonna be there. No packed. Do. I've never even seen the mall like right after church. But you know I got the quick pass. You got to. Park right in the front. Having a quick pass for the mall is crazy as shit.

Those lines are crazy. Yeah, on Easter, Easter Sunday, yeah. And like, I did start to feel kind of bad, but not really like all the kids that were patiently waiting in line for each of these rides. And fucking 34-year-old high just steps right in front of them. No. It's my turn. Yeah, chill, young.

Oh, you're 34. What are you doing? Stop cutting kids in line. Yeah. Now, you had a full day, though. Teres Martin at night, the end of the night. Yeah. What's over, Teres?

How are you doing? He's doing real good. He did a show with Kenyon Dixon. They have, like, a residence. You know how Terrace does that all the time. It was good to see Terris. He may stop by today. But he's definitely going to come on the pod soon.

They have a project coming out. But it was a Teres Martin show. So, you know, it was incredible. Yeah. He's funny. Always, always good to see him. always good to argue and debate and talk some shit with him that's why no that's why i wanted him to come here today since the last time since the last time i saw

terrace a lot has happened he said to me when i was leaving he was like yo is maul gonna be there tomorrow's like yeah it's my color like more gonna be there i was like yeah more gonna be there but you know it's funny like people would be anticipating to see me because they want to and i really don't have no debate but you know teres loves you like no no that's my god that terris is my god but it's just that i don't i don't have the energy to go back and Fourth for the guy like that. Because you got to save your energy. Because we got a big debate, even though at this point when we're recording, it is Monday at 3.13 p.m.

DJ head has not confirmed yet. This is our way to pressure me more. Like, what time we post that clip? It was before, like, like. Probably like 11 a.m. You on the clock, head. Yeah. It's all right.

Kanye giving his cousin head. DJ head hasn't. Never mind. Yeah. You still high. 11. Yeah. I can tell.

No, I'm going to just keep showing DJ. had his birth certificate, his real name. That's going to be your strategy? Yeah, like, come on, look at your name, cut it out. Cut it out, man. He won before it started. For those that did not see the clip on Patreon,

we were discussing the Jubilee thing of the back and forth of debates on YouTube, and we brought up mall going against 20 Kendrick fans, which then turned into a one-on-one against DJ head, which I am fully prepared to produce, talk to Elliot. I'm down. I think me and Jeremy

can write the questions. DeMaris and Elliot can be commentators and we treat the shit like a boxing match. You think you can handle 20 questions? Come on, man.

Come on, man. This is me. This is me you talking to, man. I was looking in the comments. I feel like the Kendrick stands have actually taken over

socials, but I did see a lot of people in the comments thinking that you'll be victorious. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. That can't be

a debate answer though. You can't just say to DJ Hey yo, come on. No, I mean, listen, listen, head is my guy. I think that we'll sit and have a great conversation. But what is there to actually debate? I don't think there's anything to debate at this point anymore. And I saw, I mean, I think this just proves that our show is actually not misogynistic because I think Demeris should be one of the commentators, not the ring girl, like everyone

was saying. That is. That's going to be the ring girl. That's just. I thought it was, I think you smoke it, but it's misogynistic. I would smoke both, actually, but let's just... Maybe you could do the ring girl thing with, like, the microphone headset. Nah.

Change the game, baby, dude. Change the game. Yeah, you'd be the first ring girl to actually say something. Nah, I'm cool. No? No, I'm sitting next to L.A. Eat him up. Pause.

Pause. Pause. Yeah, that was rough. Don't even mark that. That's the clip. Don't play. No context either. Yeah, go out.

That's it. Three second clip to let it go out. a collab post with Elliot well yes hopefully they do reply I feel like we put them in a position where they have to do it now you can't you can't have all that debate for a year straight and then someone challenged you and you'd be like no kind of like Natalie Nunn on Baddy's reunion which I also watched yesterday

at a full fucking day old in between the amusement park to Teres Martin I watched the finale Is it WWE or what? No that might be the BTS camera when they followed them away from the ring and follow him backstage. I was sitting there like, yo, did Scorsese direct this?

That's great. That's like the one shot from Goodfellas. They just in there fighting. They just in there fight. Thumping. Duh. And you owe Bobby Light an apology. Why? He's a star. I said he wasn't. He has the greatest job of all time. No, I just said his music wasn't good. I didn't say he wasn't a star. He could rap. You just don't like the content. Well, yeah, that's he made the first cousin's song.

Yeah. That was the brothers. Kanye made cousins. Bobby Light made for brothers. He's going to whop our ass. Shout to Bobby Light, man. I fuck with Bobby Light. I just don't. I do, too.

I have to deal with the consequences of things you say. Remember I told you ran down on me in Miami? Bobby Light? Yeah. It said what? He was pissed about the comments you made about his freestyle. I just said, I started quoting it. I thought it was barred.

All I said was turn that off. I don't want to hear that. I didn't say it was bad. I just said, y'all don't want to hear that. He's not for me. He's not for play-play. No, listen, man. I think Bobby Light is a.

I love what he's doing on the batty. He's instigate. He's doing what he's supposed to do. He's amazing on that show. Yeah, man. But the baddies is, Demaris, do you watch baddies? Absolutely not.

You got to watch it, baby. No, I don't. Yes, you do. No, I don't. It's like, it's like the perfect guilty pleasure. Because it comes on at 8 on Sunday. So it's like, you know, you can kind of like watch it. It doesn't have to be the last thing you watch Sunday.

You can watch something else after that. But it's like, it's just good laughs. It's like, yo, they all here wilding the fuck out. It's just, you know, it's one of those type of shows. I would quite literally rather never ever in my life. It's not for me. But I mean, I'm glad that you guys. I said the same thing and then I watched it and now I'm just...

I've watched an episode before. I don't like stuff like that. I don't know. That's Ratchet is full. I'm not watching that. That's Ratchet. Baby D. You, you Queen Ratchet.

Yeah. Listen, I don't want to watch like what I grew up around on TV. Like other people watch that shit because it's like entertaining for them like because I've been around shit like that. I don't, that's not entertaining. Well, it's all entertaining. What's her name? DTB, Diamond the body. She let us know last night.

DTB. After she fought for 37 minutes of an hour broadcast at the end of the episode, she said, yeah, I don't really got beefing for none of y'all for real. I'm just, I'm just fucking. She fought everybody. I was at the edge of my seat thinking she was going to do the hug punch thing at the end, but she was like, she got that over ready. She walked out of episode one, walked out, gave Natalie hugging and slapped the shit out of her.

Great. She said, I got to, she fought for an hour straight, head up with everybody, and then say, y'all got to go to a booking. Yeah. Get your eye fixed. Yeah, no. Hair, one of her braids got ripped out, ball spot, gangster. Oh, she's pretty.

I saw her on TikTok. Yeah, you like her? Who's a light skin girl, the red shorts, in the braise? She's the Floyd Mayweather of this shit. That's Big Lex. Yeah, she came in to fight. She came over the boxing outfit on with some Jordan's on. She ain't coming there cute.

She knew what it was. She came out ready to fight. Is it, is it weird she talked to my therapist about this? The more she was fighting, the more attractive I found her. Like I had a crush on her by the end of the, but I was like, that's a thorough print. She wasn't scared of one girl. She was scrapped with anybody. I started to have more and more of a crush on her.

Now I kind of see why girls like the thugs. Like the guys have the violence. She's like, I see the reverse now because I saw it. I was like, mm. Yeah. Get them, Bay. She was doing flying knees. Yeah.

Big legs. Shout out to big legs. Shout out to all the girls on baddies, man. I love the fact that y'all just on there fighting. No talent. Fuck it. Let's just fight. Sometimes you got to just let him know

Fuck it, I'm just gonna fight Also, maybe not even an issue Let's just fight No beef. Diamond let you know at the end of the episode Like y'all ain't got beefing nobody for real Like I'm just in here fighting I saw three girls jump one girl

And then five minutes later The girls that would jump in that girl Were then fighting each other Yeah, that's how I got to be sometimes Everybody getting fucked Fucked on the ass is kicked I like it Yeah shout out to the baddies man

And shout out to blue face And when his baby mom's on there Actually what too Chrison used to be on there She's not on there no more. Her sister Taseki, nobody better fight her ever again. She was on there fighting like, she used to fight for the big piece of chicken that's growing up.

Yeah, yeah. When somebody used to fight for their food, you don't want to fight nobody who said, had to fight for food. You don't want to fight nobody that had to fight for food. No, we have to figure out, Josh, talk to the volume. We got to be like guest hosts or something. Or at least in the live studio audience for a reunion.

We have to. That's a lot going on. Sit me next to Bobby and give me a microphone. Paddies. It's out of you right there. That's my shit. I went to see centers over the weekend. Oh, and I go, I think Sunday.

No, Saturday night. I went to see sinners. Michael B. George, shout out to Michael B. Jordan, Ryan Cuehler. Great movie. I really enjoyed it. I love the cinematography. I love the message behind it.

Some of the action scenes were a little cheesy, little corny, but, you know, you can't hold home running every time. But overall, then they did a great job. Michael B. Jordan did a great job playing a long. side himself, which I saw him speak about how difficult it was and having to learn where to walk and, you know, his eye levels and everything like that during his line. So he did a great job. But overall to me, I think the messaging behind the movie was the most important part of it. Which is what I honestly have seen all the advertisements. I don't think I've seen the trailer.

I don't know what this movie's about. I just saw great reviews. It's about the Delta, you know, the blues down there. But I like how they integrate it, you know, blues coming from Africa, you know, African music, original music, and then translating into hip hop and, you know, the culture now. They did a great job of integrating it and just telling that story about how it was all connected at some point. And then there was other, you know, other messages and, you know, I don't want to give it away because it's only been out a few days, but people do need to go see it.

It is a good movie. One, I was in the movie theater and one dude thought it was absolutely terrible. He got up and walked out. He's like, well, this shit is trash. And I was just like, but then when he's, he's, he was just like, but then when walked past me and I saw what he was wearing I was like oh he's he's the guy that would walk out what was he wearing he just looked like he don't he wouldn't understand that type of storyline like that just it just wasn't the movie for him he thought white people did in fact come up

with rock and roll I'm not gonna say he thought that but that movie was not for him he likes bluegrass over blues probably probably um but it to me I enjoyed the movie I thought it was a um a great you know visual and the storyline behind it great actors was in it um but you Yeah, shout out to Michael be joining Ryan Cougla, because now this is what they started with Fruitvale Station, I believe. That was their first film together

and to see, you know, the films that they've done since then. And I think Ryan's deal, the way he constructed his deal with this was incredible. I think he owns the movie outright, like all rights to his after like 20 years, I think. Oh, wow, okay.

So I think, you know, they're just starting. What him and Michael B. Jordan are doing, I see that they're, you know, they're just building a portfolio of work and things like that. And, you know, I think that,

what they're doing is great. Yeah. For Real Station, Creed, Black Panther, one and two of centers. That's a crazy little list they're putting together.

No, no, they're definitely doing some good things. So, you know, got to go support people like that that's building something and working together

for so many years. Demaris, you saw, right? Yes, I did. Did you walk out? No, I enjoyed it a lot. I think it was really, really well done.

It is a vampire movie that's not giving anything away just so you do know what it's about, it's a vampire movie. But they told a story Yeah. In the explanation, he said there's vampires. Ball's explanation.

I know he was just trying not to give away the premise. I get what he was saying. Did they like represent the major labels or something? You said what? Are they like a metaphor for the major labels? There is some of that. Okay. It is some of that.

Another group of people. It is though. It is because when they can't, see, I don't want to spoil it, but when they first showed up to the club or the juke joint, they were specifically there for the singer. Okay. It was like, I want him. And it was like, okay, so that type of messaging

You know what I'm saying? I don't want to get the, you got to really pay attention and really just follow the story. And then you notice that it was Indians that were looking for or Native Americans that were looking for one of the people. And he's, you know, from the Caucasus Mountains. Gotcha. This is a whole bunch of, it's a lot of little nuance. Yeah, it's a lot of little nuance. The characters are very likable.

Both of the black women in the film were absolutely beautiful, like the love interest. They were absolutely beautiful. So Haley Stainfield, I forgot her name is she was in the Superman movie. She was really, really good. Everybody did an amazing job. The story was really well told. The scenes that were not action scenes, because Maul has a point to action scenes, were not that great.

But the scenes that were not action scenes were very well shot. At no point was I reminded that Michael B. Jordan was playing two people. And that's kind of hard to do in a movie. So it was really good. It was really good. What do you think about the, there's been things going online where they say they feel like Jonathan Majes were supposed to play alongside him in that as well. Well, they're making fun of that because of the way that Jonathan Majors dresses and the time,

the time story, the time of the movie, that the movie was supposed to be. I wouldn't have been mad at that, though. Like, I like, because obviously would Michael be joining Ryan Cougall are building? They obviously working together. They're going to continue to do films together. I wouldn't be mad at that because somebody else that does that Spike Lee. All the Spike Lee movies generally have the same. cast in every movie.

I wouldn't be mad to see Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan Majors, you know, obviously they have the Creed thing. Yeah. I wouldn't have been mad at seeing him together. I mean, Jonathan Majors looks like he belongs in a film that was shot in the 30s for sure. But I think Michael B. playing his own twin added something to the movie. It was, it was a nice spin.

It was unique. I just, again, it was, you know, certain things when it came to the action, the fighting scenes, I thought it was a little. It's going to be hard. Yeah. It would be hard to do, period. And then to do it with CGI is super hard. You know the blood, like the gore.

Nobody bleeds like that. It doesn't shoot out. I mean, if it's a vampire movie, isn't that? That's in vampire movies. Yeah, but they don't have to be in this vampire movie. They could have kept a little more realistic as part. Nobody's bleeding, always shooting across. The only parts that were pissing me off were the vampire flying scenes.

I hated the way the vampires was flying. That was pissing me off. But other than that, it was cool. I like that. It was a really good movie. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. A girl is currently going viral because she said she walked out in the middle of the movie because it was bothering her spirit.

She's a Christian and then they are her ass saying, why are you a Christian going to see a movie called sinners? Like you kind of should have expected that. So if you are of the religious belief and stuff like that, is that real? Somebody really said that? Yes. Don't go see it.

But other than that, it's a really good movie. Get the fuck. See, that would be the part of the Christian church shit that I, people like that. Shut the fuck up. You walked out because what should you walk out on? What part? What part of the movie was like, I can't, this is enough?

It wasn't like that. It wasn't that deep. Like, come on, man. Cut the shit. Good movie. Again, shout out to Michael Be Jordan, Ryan Cooleer. Go support the movie. If you haven't already, I think you would enjoy it.

Did the UMG characters, like, fight them off with garlic? It was like that. Their way of streaming. It was garlic in there. And stealing their publishing. It was garlic in there. You know, you can't have Van Gogh. And I have garlic. Give it some garlic in there.

Yeah, it was a good movie, man. I think overall, you know, people, people enjoy it. We need to figure out the history of who created the vampire shit and why they landed on garlic as their kryptonite. Like, the older I get, the more questions I have about the things that I just accepted and never thought into, like, let me ask you to see. Garlic. I mean, you know, maybe because, you know, bad breath and, you know, the vampires have

to bite you have to get, get up close on you. They're legitimately sucking your blood. I don't think how you smell is really like the most important. You got to get close to them, notice for them to bite you. If you ate some garlic, you know, your breath kind of is,

I don't know, maybe. Why do vampires hate garlic? I'm a way ahead of you. Garlic. The idea that vampires hate garlic has roots in folklore and symbolic associations

more than any one book or movie. It's known for its medicine and protection properties. Garlic has been used for centuries and folk medicine to ward off illness and infection. That makes perfect sense. That's what I was thinking.

Yeah, they were created by a disease of the blood, so a powerful antibiotic, like garlic, would kill a vampire. Yeah. Okay. I mean, there's too much pizza in New York for us to ever get hit,

so I'm not scared of vampires. You're not scared of vampires? Nah. How much garlic I put on all my food? So you're protected is what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. All right, protect your neck.

It's like, my version of my condom. Protect your neck is funny. You know what I'm saying? Protect your, You know, I never thought, like, y'all never found, like, vamp. Like, I always thought the vampire stuff was kind of like, I don't know, like sexy. Y'all never thought that?

Nah, I'm freaked out. Nah, that's cool, cool, it's cool. Nah, baby, I never, I never thought the vampire shit was sexy. I never was like. I never saw a count and was like, yeah. I never saw, you know, I never saw vampire. Like, I always thought like just vampireism was like, okay. Like, it was kind of like an undertone in it.

Like, see, my sister, that's because the media trained you that way with Twilight and all those teen movies to brainwash you to think that that behavior is okay. Yeah, it's not. Did he just say my sister? Yeah. 420. 420. But wasn't all those teen movies, like they got all the Abercrombie models to like fall in love as vampires?

Yeah. Yeah, they was brainwashing you. They were glitter. Yo, the ones in Twilight were like glittery. Like their skin was like glittery and shit. Would you fuck a vampire? Would I fuck a vampire? Who's the vampire?

At night. Who's the vampire? Indyla. Oh, yes. Absolutely. You let her bite you and then just become a vampire like this. I'm in it now. I'm in the clan now.

What is it? The clan. Yeah, I'm part of the vamps. See, we talked about this when we were talking about I Am Legend. I forgot how many episodes ago. When I was like, no, why don't you, like, Will Smith, just get bit. Like, you're dragging this. Like, what's the big deal if you just join the fucking crew that does this?

No, but that's... If there's vampires running around and I'm the last... Like, just bite me. Like, can we get this over with? I'll join y'all. I'll be a vampire too. He was a doctor. But that was different, too, though, because those were like zombies.

I think zombies and vampires are totally different. Well, I Am Legend was originally about vampire. Like, the book is written about vampires. Those were supposed to be like a more realistic version of a vampire. Do you believe in vampires? Uh, I don't not believe in them. I believe there's probably an entity that resembles them. No, I don't think they have like little pointy fangs and like, say, I want to drink

or blood. I don't think that. But I think there's some type of entity that probably resembles that. All right, man. Or like energy vampires. I believe energy vampires exist. What's the energy vampire? People who come around you and drain all of the happiness and joy and positive things out

of your life. I believe that. That's why you got to get your cords cut. And that's what the psychic was telling me that there was somebody's doing that to me that remain nameless. Like, sucking the energy and life out of me from a distance. For real? That's a thing, though.

But even the cord cutting girl, like, that's part of it. Like, subconsciously, people can create cords and take bits and pieces of your energy without even knowing it. But I think it's crazy that Demaris gives me shit all the time for thinking that a missile hit the Pentagon, but she believes in vampires. I come in here with, like, regular conspiracy theories that she clowns me for, and now of a sudden she believes in vampires. No, she says she doesn't not believe in them.

She didn't say she does believe in them. I won't sit there and say, nah, vampires ain't real. Like, I won't say that. Like, I don't know that for sure, but I don't, you know, I would be surprised if I found out they existed, but I'm not. And I'm crazy for thinking there's lizard people. I told you there's lizard people. I already told you who I think is a lizard person or all of that.

Yeah, I believe in that too. Elon? No, not Elon. Well, Elon found for some of the- He polies with the lizard people, but I don't think he's one. No, I don't think he's a lizard, but he found some of the vampires. There's some people on. Social Security at 300 and something years old still receiving checks.

Those are the vampires that I think Elon is trying. Same ones that voted for the UK? Yeah, you're about to go find them. Like, all right, who's 337 years old? Let me see this person. Yeah, absolutely. What's going to be crazy if we find out it really is a person. And it's not a scam.

That's what I'm saying. Either way, let's figure it out. Let's just figure it out. Let's just figure out. Who is this person? Let's figure it out. Fuck it. It's been Dr. Shepi the whole time.

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Yeah. Did our Nas worst beat picker and rap make it to our best of? Damn. That clip I saw, there was definitely some back and forth. I even had people texting me about that shit. And it was, I felt an easy. Proof. Like, I think I solved this rumor.

Which one? That Nas does not pick bad beats. I mean, you guys at Rockefeller concocted this whole conspiracy to try to ruin his legacy and put it out there. And then Vlad says it every five minutes. And now everyone just across the board just goes, Nass picks bad beats. That's not true. Mek just sat in and said he asked him about that years ago.

And Nas himself said he picks bad beats on purpose. He didn't say picks bad beats on purpose. He didn't say picks bad beats. He said that he wants the people to listen to what he's saying more than the music. That doesn't mean it's a bad beat. It may not be, you don't know from just Blaze, but they're not bad beats. They're just maybe not like the crazy beats that you just focus on the beat. Is Etha a bad beat?

Yes. All right, cool. Awful. Works. No, it worked. It worked. It definitely worked. But to say that.

Somebody say ETH is a fire beat. All right. Is ghetto techno that beat? I don't even know if that's a real account. I'm not shouting now. What the fuck is work? Mail 1551. It's not even a real fucking click on that.

Click on that. Let's see what the fuck that is. It's not even a real person. Like, ether is a fire beat. No, it's not. It's a bot. That's a bot. Whoever said that is definitely a bot.

Anthony, friend of the show, manages Kendrick and Nas. Bots. Off of the Nas beats me in fire or not? Maybe Anthony switch the account from Kendra to Nas to do the bot thing for the day. I don't think they're sending bots to say, Nas picks why his beats.

But no, I just think it's unfair because Jay has bad beats sometimes. Every rapper does. They just put it on Nas. And I was actually shocked a lot of people did agree with me because that's just been the running thing forever. I mean, I think that Nas has obviously some great beats in his discography. But there's a thing, even when he got with Hit Boy and they did their collection, people, the thing was, oh, he's finally getting beats that are going to be consistently at a certain level. Yeah. So it's a thing that people feel like.

Nas doesn't have the greatest beats to be one of the greatest rappers, obviously. People feel like a lot of his songs, some of the beats are just like, oh, that was cool, but compared to other greats, other great rappers, people feel like his discography probably has the most beats that are just a little lackluster. Now, I don't think that every beat Nas has is weak or trash. No, but I do think there are some songs where I'm just like the performance is what carried this, his, his, what he's saying and his, you know, his rhymes is what carried it. But if you just listen to the music, it's just like, it's cool. It's not incredible music.

30-year career speaks for itself. Who are all these magical rappers that pick great beats over a 30-year career? That's a good point. Who's about a 30-year career that we can say is a flawless beat selection? I mean, but it doesn't have to be flawless. Like, if you look at somebody like Jay-Z, he obviously, you know, is not going in there saying, I'm going to pick a bad beat and let the rhymes carry the song. You go in there, you find a beat that you feel like embodies or captures what you're saying

and can kind of, you know, just carry a little bit of the emotions that you're trying to project through your rhymes. But, I mean, it is a thing, though, that people just feel like some of Naz's music is just not up to the level of Nas' rap and ability. That's a real thing. I don't think that that's some false narrative that people created. I think that's a real thing. Blueprint 2, I think it had some misses, volume 3 as a few. how everybody has kingdom come.

Every art. Every art. 444 is flawless. But yeah, anyone that has this long of a career. Yeah. I mean,

you're not going to love every beat from every song. You're not going to, that's just impossible. You're not going to love every beat. But as somebody who's been listening to Nause for years, that is a real thing.

I don't think this is some made-up new thing that the internet or social media just tried to make up and carry. It was a real thing that, you know, Naz's production sometimes is like, I wouldn't have went with that one, but

obviously Naz's rhymes is incredible, so it works. But I think overall, you know, a lot of people feel like Nas's music and it has gotten better later on in his career. Yeah, I'm with you. But I still think from 94 to 2002,

flawless. I'm not mad at that. And Sten Street's disciple got a little weird. That one got odd. I don't know what's going on in the studio that day. that double disc That's where it always gets tricky That was a time

When rappers tried to do the double dish shit It was like fam Like you could have just condensed this to one And just left it alone That was like the Every rapper felt like they had to do that To kind of prove themselves That was like a

You gotta get your double dish shit off And it's like I get it Everyone at that point was chasing Pock and Big And they both have classics All eyes on me Life I've Death Fucking flawless no skip Double albums

That doesn't mean the rest of the world that's right right like at all because blueprint too could have been close to blueprint if it was just fucking 10 records i said the whole time just condensed it to one album and then street disciple like as a nass stand i like certain records on there but it was not needed for like at one point he's he just did like the first AI voice when shorty got aides and he was rapping as her and i thought it was little kim for the first time and then i realized it was nods pitched up i was like you know what man i don't know if this album's for me this one's rough Yeah.

And now we're doing biographies about KRS1 when Wikipedia exists. Or Rock Him rather. It was a weird time. And then you're taking two singles back to back with hip-hop is dead using the thief scene beat. Like I was confused on so much what was going on at that time. But hit boy gave Nas new life. I guess. That's a real narrative, though.

That's a real thing. People was happy to hear Nas. I love that they're connecting. time when I say lock in with one producer, but I think that's when you make your best music. He needed to do that, but that's a stretch. Like, hit boy, of course, legend is on right, but gave Nas. I don't know about that. Nause was, okay, because when you say new life, it's kind of sound like Nause was dead out here. No, Nause's career wasn't dead. But I do understand he gave him a new kind of frequency. He gave him a new sound. And I think more of an output, because Nause never had

output like that. I think, okay, I will give this comment some credit then, because yes, that gave Nas a new way of putting it. Yeah, that's so not. But I understand it kind of like, new life. It's like, Nause didn't need new life. Like, this is Nause we're talking about. Because before, like, the King's Disease, life is good existed, which is close to a

classic album. So I don't really know about new life. But anyways, it was cool to see. I've liked our pod for the last few months because I feel like we're back to, like, just discussing music. Of course, we're talking about baddies and bullshit. But, you know, I like having those nerdy convos. That's why I love to have mech on.

But I like to see people react to music shit for real, not Stan beef bullshit. Like the Day 26 video comments are all about music. Yeah. No messy shit, no puff shit. Like, I love that we can get engagement this way rather than always having to do it. I like this comment right here. Renaissance Man underscore 7 says, even if you owe me, it's considered good. Many don't agree this.

still not enough evidence of him doing those type of records to say that, oh, I can do that when I want to. Nah. And I absolutely love Nause. I ran through the KD and Magic series. I ran through the KD and Magic series just yesterday, but I ain't buying that last part. The last part being that Nause said he picks bad beats on purpose. Yeah, which I don't really think that's exactly what I was trying to say.

But either way, I'm about to contradict everything I just said about good music engagement. Did you know that Amanda Binds is on only fans? Who's Amanda Binds? Well, relax. He's too old. God. You don't know what Amanda Bines is? The name sounds familiar.

Amanda Binds. Let's pull up her resume. Amanda, why does that name sound familiar? Because it's a question. I know Amanda Binds. No, I'm saying, I know who that is. Like personally. It's so funny.

Is that? She was an actress. She had the Amanda show when I was a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember Amanda Bines. I'm trying to think, what was her big movie? Yeah, she was on all that. Yeah, I remember Amanda Barnes.

Yes, yes. And then, you know, she went through some interesting press, like where it looked like she was having mental breakdowns and crazy shit going on. But, I mean, I'm just glad back to being stable and, you know, showing feet and racist chats. That's what she's doing? No.

She's on Only fans, and she claims she's only on there to chat with her fans. Okay. So she's not showing no bush. Sorry? I feel like she's just chatting naked. Okay. Listen, it's nothing wrong with chatting naked. Naked chat.

Does your girl have an only fan just to chat? Whose girl? Both of y'all girl. Just the chat. She says, no, I'm just chatting. Now, you can talk to me. We're right here. You wouldn't let her make money off of just like chatting?

Nah. That's what we do. Facts. Facts. Yeah, but we're not, you know what I'm saying? It's not one-on-one. It's not, you know what I mean? But what if it's like no explicit content?

They're just chatting. No explicit content? Yeah, like real rest and peace of the Pope. Crazy, right? Who's your favorite? Top five that are live po. If there ain't no explicit content, then yeah, get your shit off. Okay, what if it starts out that way?

And then, you know, the $25 tier gets a little racy. No photos, no videos. You know. Just horny, nasty talk? Just what are you wearing? Nah, we're not doing that. Can't ask my girl what she wearing. Because you text it over a platform.

Paying ass. It's different from asking on the street. Like, it's the same shit to me. I'll ask my girl what she wearing. They're going to be mad when they realize I'm the one on the other end. Oh, that's a whole different. That you get into a whole other thing.

The first time I found out, I was mind-blown. Listen, man. I said, they pimping on Onlyfans. We, because they told us, they told us pimping was dead. That's what they told us. They said, you can go, the holes can go direct the consumer now. They ain't got to have a pimp. They can sell a pussy whenever they want, work their own hours.

Then when I started finding out, a lot of these girls are only fans, you know, these, these mattress actresses, I'm like, wait. So your manager? Nine times out of ten. it's their gay best friend. Nah, I know some straight best friends that's running these only fans accounts. Because they know what straight men want to hear. Just like how they say straight men suck dick the best.

Like they know which I want to hear. Whose day? Yeah. Give me some names. Who said that? I need to know the identity. Yeah, who said that? Show me they, let Josh pull up their Instagram right now.

Kanye West? Yeah. Who said, who said that? No, they just said, like men suck dick the best. Y' got stronger jobs. All right. See what I'm saying? That's what they said that meant.

Are you heard that, right? Who is they? Stop saying. said that. Tell me a name. Who said that? The dick-sucking experts say that men give better head, A, because they know what it feels like. Just like women give better head to women because they know

what it feels like, and because y'all have stronger jaws. Okay, but where, how do we land on straight men give the best- Well, I didn't mean to say straight men. I just meant to say men. Yeah. Like, so men... Oh, I'm sure gay men probably, you know, are good at their craft, but I don't know. I know some women that are great at it, too.

So that's where I'm confused. all right, who is they? Who's saying these things? Study fine, straight men. Oh, okay, all right, sorry, Josh. What did that say? It's study fines. That's all I says.

Study fine, straight men want to perform oral sex on their partner more often. Okay. Who did they study? Yeah. And how many? I'm trying to find that. You trying to find that out?

Yeah, your algorithm is going to be crazy. But yeah, anyway, my point is men know how to raise y'all up more because they know what they want to hear. It's like, you know, like you have an insider. That I, Demaris, I can promise your man

cannot risk me up more than a woman can. I'm telling you if a man on a fine bitch account and you, nah. Oh, no, but that's not, I don't know what it's a guy though. That's, no, but that's what I'm, that was my point.

If you have a man, a male manager for the only fans, yes, men know what men want to hear so they can type to you. Women know what men want to hear too. Yes, they do. Demaris, you can be a phone call girl and know exactly what to say to a man.

I'm not saying, you know, I want that for you, but I'm just saying, you, no, I'm just saying, The matter is, you could, you could do it. But if that's your journey. You could be a phone sex operator and know exactly what the same of God. No, I would be mad, nice. Of course.

I would be nice. But I'm just saying men, I can understand why men are doing that or why women might need men's help. Not every woman is me. Not every woman has Riz. I feel like not all only fan girls are escorts or strippers or whatever. But those type of women know how, like they know a mark when they see one. Yeah. Like they know how to, why would they need their manager to do that?

Because their whole job has been based on learning how to finessey Ness men and knowing what they want to hear so they can get money out of them. Yeah, but a lot of women don't want to talk to people online. They rather just take, like, do like four photos shoots in the month, have enough photos for fucking two months and just let the manager, whoever, run them out weekly, daily, talk to whoever, just send me my check. That's why I could not be an only fan's manager. I'm too silly.

Like, I feel like the first, maybe first sentence I'd be serious to the person that I'm talking to on Onlyfans. And then it would just be jokes after that. I know a girl. I could not take, I'd start dying laughing with everything that I was diving. It's a girl on Instagram. She has a pretty nice following. One of my homeboys knows her in real life and told me, he was like,

yo, that's not her, her boyfriend runs her account. And, like, people would be sending her money. But it's her boyfriend, like, talking to people in the DM. I was like, what? Yeah. Just sending money to the Zelle and cash out. Like, yo, you look good. Here's $100.

Have a great day. When you guys were, when you guys were 20, 20, or, I'll go lower. You guys were 17, 16, 17, 18. Was there anybody that you would have paid to chat with on, like, an only fan's platform? No. No pictures, no videos, but like to chat with. Just talk?

When you were 16. I mean. No pictures, no video? I've always been a visual niggas. I've been a visionary my whole life, DeMaris. I said no right away, but now I think, but like, I definitely was asking people with ASL back in the day. Yeah.

But like, it never, it went like freaky. But it got to a point where y'all exchanged, like, somebody said the picture. Yeah, yeah. Somebody, like, video chat at something. And I never paid. I mean, my mother was paying the internet bill. That was the only payment that was happening in these chats. But I mean, like, famous people.

Like if you, for example, because they used, because fan clubs, before Patreon, like actual, remember real fan clubs, kind of used to have that feature. Yeah, like, so I feel like that's just this, you know. I ain't a lie. If you would have told me at 16, I maybe, I might be talking to Holly Berry on this platform for real. I might have went for it. Yeah. They might have caught me.

slip him. Well, I mean, that's where the whole show Catfish was birth from. Yeah, they might have caught me. At 16, they might have caught me for sure. But I would have figured that shit out eventually because I'd have just started going to go, oh, send me the fucking pictures. Like, I'd start to go crazy little young, yeah, but fucking kick me off. Fuck it is what it is. I'm I just feel like you deserve it if that happens. Like when, when that girl on Catfish thought she was sending money to a little bow wow, I have no sympathy for you. You deserve all of you. People like that, that's just mental illness. That's what that is.

If you think you're talking to bow wow on this site and he's asking you for money and you're sending bow wow money, there's something wrong with you. Why is his credit card frozen every time? Yeah, like there's something wrong with you. He's on the BET every day. There is something in your head that is just a little, needs some tweaking. That's all. You just need to tweak it a little bit. I'm trying to think maybe like Adriana Lima or something.

I might throw in my teenage years. I might ask my mom for some money. Oh, trying to talk to liens. Damn, you ain't you in Lima on them? I ain't know he was going to go Lima. Yeah. She's nice. You got taste.

She's nice. Man, she defined his generation. Yeah, she's very nice. She's still fine, too. I discovered myself through him. Yeah. Yeah. One can only discover themselves.

That was a polite way of saying I beat off to her. You figured out the things that you liked. I knew my kings and my corks. Ew. Yeah. Adrian and Lima, the goat. And like these kids Of course everything's over sexualized

Even adults I feel like we've gotten too far with stuff But we used to go crazy Just her in a brawl was like She was busting her lips wide open That's the equivalent of what we viewed that as Yeah man Lima that's a goat You ever see a goat in heels

Adrian Lema Didn't uh Who did she end up marrying Wasn't it like She was married to a basketball player He used to play for the Timberwolves I forgot his name Pete over here searching her.

I think it was like. Marco Yorich. Yeah, Marco Yorich. She was married. I don't know if they're still married, but no, they're not married anymore. Yeah, Michael Yorich. I remember that.

She was she I married to him. Yeah, I would pay a little $20 for the month. To see Lima? Yeah, talk to her chat. Like, you know, just get to know her. Yeah. She's hot. She's hot.

Wait, is that? Is there some form of a law there? Like if I'm 16 and I can go on OnlyFans and like you're sending photos and like talking to a teenager. I don't think. I think Only fans, you have to be what? 18. Is it 18 or 21? 18.

Yeah. All right. But since the inception of the internet, with all the security and stuff we have to this day, it's ask, are you 18? And you just say yes. Yeah. Literally. That's it. Are you 18?

Answer. Yes. Yes. I'm 18. I'm in. Just a million ways that they could find that out. And it's just like, enter. I'm 18.

Today, right now I'm 18 today. No, I feel like there should be some type of law to figure that shit out. Because that is kind of crazy. That's underage. You're sending naked photos and talking sexually to a teenager. They have to have something. They have to have something. They have to have something.

Are all of you guys signed up for OnlyFans? They didn't ask for our picture ID or anything? I don't have OnlyFans. I did. I got rid of the account. Stop supporting some of my friends. Yeah, I'm not paying for nudes, man. I'm just not.

They are free on the internet. You go to X right now. I can show you some crazy shit right now the matter of the free. X and X, X, X, X. What? For free. I also just don't know if I could get off on, like,

talking sexually with the girl that I know I can't fuck. Like, why I enjoy sexting is because it's somebody I'm eventually or already being physical. Like, that's the point of sexting to, in between to then go fuck. Y'all don't want to admit. What are you doing? You're paying to just get hard and, like, then turn your phone off? Y'all don't want to admit it, but a lot of that shit is catered towards like in-cells. Who don't want to admit it?

I didn't think we needed to. I thought it was a very clear as day. A lot of people don't like to admit that. Like a lot of that shit, when they say, oh, this model OnlyFans made $10 million. And people are like, what the fuck? I'm like, you know how many guys out here don't even know how to speak to a woman, let alone a woman that looks like this? This is who they are catering to.

This is who they are marketing to. You want to talk to a beautiful woman? Here, we know you can in real life. They don't say that. That's a little subtitle. You can't really see that. We know you will never get a woman this beautiful, sir. But we'll give you the fantasy of it for 1999 a month. Yeah, that's welcome to the porn industry, the only fan industry, the sex industry. No, porn is different though, because porn is, you'll see some guys in there.

You'll be like, oh, he could probably get some beautiful women in real life. You see, no in shape, handsome guy. Yeah, but the people who, the people who pay for porn and pay the big bucks for porn are people who are not really. paying for porn is absolutely crazy. It's like literally, I'll give you the site that has all the pre-for, like, it's free. And it's in like 4K, everything. Paying for porn is fucking crazy, man.

Who is paying for porn? You can actually pay the fuck the girl you're looking at. You know, if you go down the year that you would spend on a fucking browser's account, no, hit a DM. Just hit a DM for you right now. What's up? Fly to Miami, you might have a shot.

Yeah, go get tested. Take me wherever I need to go. go get tested and that's fuck. Paying $3,000. How much is a Brazzar's membership? Probably like $20 a month. Brazzers is now free. Be lying like shit. You go there and need my credit

card. Nah. Briseers is not free on. Actually, I only want to say the site because I don't want to splash them and ruin it for everyone. Yeah, man. But yeah. I mean. Demaris, what did you think about Tracy Ellis-Rawson, what she said about her liking to date younger men because the toxic masculinity of men, her age, is a little too much?

And if I said that, could I get away with it as a man? No. No, because the- But she is who you are talking about. Like, you're the toxic man, she was describing. Me? They're not toxic. I'm toxic?

Let me know. Don't get quiet. Oh, no. What's on the list? Kevin Gates versus LeBron. Has she up there? You think I'm toxic for real? No.

I think you have some old school mentalities of things that you say is from a good place. I know you don't mean in a mean, malicious way. people could view it as toxic. Like what? There's no such thing as a bisexual man. Okay. What else? 45, 47.

Trump? What? Wait, now you lost me. You had me on the first one. I was grateful. I don't want to just list off a thing where now we could like invite ourselves to get canceled. See, I'm trying to talk real. Like, you ain't trying to talk real.

No, I don't. I get, I mean, I only saw like a little bit of that clip. didn't really watch it. But I mean, I guess I get where she's coming from if that's what she's saying that the men her age or have a little bit more of a toxic masculinity thing. Yeah, I can understand that. But if she goes too young, she's also going to run into the toxic masculine anything. She has to stay with the young millennials.

Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age. I would have rather her just say she likes younger guys. Toxic masculinity doesn't always have an age, but there are some preconceived beliefs within different generations. Different generations believe certain things. Like, for example, there's a bunch of articles on how Gen Z is more susceptible to the Andrew Tate rhetoric because that's because of how they grew up, being sheltered, not really going out and seeing the world, being on the internet, the addiction to porn and this women

hating rhetoric, it's become very prominent in Gen Z men. So there is, so no, toxic, there isn't just one set of generation that's toxic, but some more than others, some are more susceptible to things more than others due to the media. they were exposed to do to the things that was cool when they were growing up, the belief systems that their parents had, the music, the movies, everything, all of that has an effect. So if she's dating people Rory's age in comparison to dating people that might be in their late 20s or early 40s, it's going to be a little bit different. So I understand what she was saying.

Yeah. I'm probably a little bit more progressive than my father is just my generation period. But it is odd to what Demeris just said too. The generation under me is like more toxic than my dad's generation. Of course. That's what I'm saying. Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age. Like it's not, it's how you were raised, where you were raised.

Like to me, that's more so what the age. Yeah. It's not just the age. Yeah. It's not just the age. Like that's why, again, I would have rather, I felt like, and I, I love Tracy Ellis Ross. I'm a huge fan of her.

I thought that, you know, she just, her same because she dates, that's why she dates younger people because of, the toxic mask. I'm just like, I would rather her just say, I just like younger guys. Well, that also could just be her experience. That could have been the experience that she's had. Your personal experience. But I'm just saying what she said and the reason for her dating younger guys, I thought was just like, that doesn't make any sense. Because you can find a young guy that's more toxic. I'm saying, I'm toxic, way more toxic than these. These little Yons, 27, they're talking to chicks. I'm like, yo, they're eye. Why they're talking to you? But I don't think that Tracy Ellis Ross is dating Yons. She's dating younger men, but she's not. dating Y-ins? I mean, you don't know that?

I don't know that, but I can assume. We all live on assumptions here. Yeah. Yeah. She could have been in front row at a little T.J. Strail. I can see her dating a little Y-in just for the, you know, just for the thrill. Like, I don't know if this little nigga going, you know, rob me or not. But let's just see.

But, I mean, we've all had the older men have had the conversation of they like dating younger women. I had that conversation recently with a man that's headed into his 40s where he likes dating younger women, not creepily young, but. women who haven't been. The older women get, the more we see and the smarter we become and the more if you want to say damaged we become because the fantasy is gone, right? The younger you are, the more you still hold on to the fantasy of this, this dream man and believe in that dream. And as you come into, you learn more, you come into contact with more men. It's like, oh,

I'm chasing a unicorn. And this is more than likely not real. So if someone's love bombing me, more than likely this will not last. Like, you don't really believe the things you used to. you lose your naivity. So it's easier to date. Even if you are trying to be a good guy, it's easier to date. I can see why they say it's easier to date younger women because they're more likely to believe you.

Even if you are really a good guy, they're more likely to believe you. A older woman is more likely to give you a hard time and make you really have to prove how good of a guy you are. Yeah, because they can't bullshit. They've seen the bullshit. Beautiful way to just say young girls are easy to manipulate. But that was my thing with Tracy said what she said.

I'm like, oh, you could run laps around these little young. do you? I would have let her manipulate me at 21, 22. Tracella? Hell you. Okay. I'm not mad at that. She can manipulate me now. Yeah.

Me too. I believe anything she says. I believe that all older men are toxic. I've seen it. I've met all older men. I've seen it. I've met every one of them. Yeah, they're all toxic.

Well, for crazy. If rolls are reversed, we couldn't get that shit off. Hell no. You all get that shit off all the time. No, the older guys date younger girls, but they get shit about it. They didn't even got. And I kind of think they shouldn't. You can see an older guy walking a restaurant you at with a younger girl and you and whoever

you at the table where y'all going to start talking about that shit. No. Cut it out. It depends on how, yo, it depends on how young. If I can see that that girl was way too young, then yeah, we're going to talk shit. But we automatically. If a 50-year-old man walks into a restaurant, you're at with a 24, 25-year-old girl, you're going to have something to say about that.

Yes, because that's a huge age difference. That's a 20-something year age difference. A dude that's seven years older than his girl, nobody's checking for that. That happens all the time. We're not talking about seven years. Yeah, we're not talking about what Tracy. We're talking about significantly younger than you are. Did she say 25 years?

Did she say she's dating people 25 years younger? I don't know if she put an age on it, but I'm... Or did she just say younger, man? Nobody says I date younger people and it be a five years. Five to seven years. That doesn't happen, especially at her age. What women do, because women are not used to that. So if a woman is dating a guy, even remember, I told y'all went out of a date with a guy that was three years younger to me.

And I'm like, he's like younger to me. All right. Tracy Ellis Jones is 52 years old. How old do you think the men she did? I'm sure she's dating men in their early 40s. All right. I'm sure she has two. I'm talking about when she says she dates a younger man.

I'm sure she's talking about men in their early 40s, maybe late, late 30s. I don't think that she's dating early 30s. She's definitely talking about 30s, man. Definitely. I don't think so. But I mean, if that's what you guys took from that, that's not what I took from that. Even if it's a 35 year old, it's a 17 year difference. Yeah.

If Tracy Ellis walked down here right now, her boyfriend was 35 and she's 52. People are going to talk about her too. People are going to talk about her quicker than they're going to talk. about the man? No, but it's a different talk, though. It's a different, and that's my point. It's a different talk when it's a woman with a guy. It's not a difference. Y'all giggins dragged Dreya to the ends of the fucking earth. It's not a different talk. No, but that was different because she was actually around him and his girlfriend since they were in high school. That whole situation was different.

That's why they gave Drea shit about that. Because Jalen's ex-girl and Dreya were actually, like, she was mentoring Jayden. They gave her shit about they were like, he's the same age as your son. That's what they were giving her shit about. Okay. Valid. That's not a valid shit giver? No, but what I'm saying is, yeah, she still caught shit. Like, let's not make it seem like women are able to walk around and do whatever they want.

Nobody gives them shit for it. No, no, but that's that situation is you can understand that, no? If you're dating a guy that's the same age as your son. I can understand anything. I can understand all of what they're saying. But what I'm saying is we're not just going to paint it like women can do it and make it and they don't catch shit. We're speaking in general, not specifics. Typically when an older guy is with a younger.

girl, what is the reason? She wants money. He wants young. That's typically what that scenario ends up being, right? More than 15 years. Sure. Okay. When it happens typically with an older woman and a younger man, let's say a 50 year old and a 35 year old, is everyone going to bring up income? Or are they going to be like, oh, maybe like each other? They usually say that they're taking advantage, that he's trying to take advantage of her for money. If Tracy Ellis Ross is with a 35 year old and He don't happen to have no money. I'm just saying in general, we've seen that before. Where income isn't a thing.

We've never seen a broke old man with a young thing. It's never happened. Yeah, it does happen. Where? Just because you don't, you don't see it because you don't care about broke people. So you're not checking for what broke. I'm doing. Y'all not checking for what broke people are doing.

I don't got a fucking dollar to my name. When we're talking about this and when we're in people's business, they're celebrities. So they have money. You only know their business because they're celebrities that have money. that have money. So you're not checking for the business of people who are not celebrities with money. So you can't sit up there and say,

well, we don't hear about them. Of course you don't. They're broke. You don't know them. Why would you know them? All right, but Demaris, what we're saying is this. If you could be walking outside.

The chances of you seeing a younger girl with an old, a significantly older man and he's not well off is what? Slim to none. Okay. Walk down Collins in Miami. That's your experience. I see it.

You won't know. Where do you see it at? That's not for me to speak on situations because these are people I know, but I see it. They fucking with an older broke man? He's not well off. They're not fucking with a younger broke man.

Go fuck with an older broke nigga. I don't know why y'all think that people don't, the broke people don't date. I'm not saying broke people don't date. I'm just saying a woman is not seeking out. No, she's not seeking out, but women date men who don't have any money. People who don't have any money date. Absolutely.

Just in general, like percentage wise, usually what a stereotype would be. If you walk down Collins in Miami right now, you will run into old men with young women and they're not famous. but you can assume one thing that they are. Yeah, that's Miami. Yeah. All right, Manhattan. Rich.

All right, so where are you want me to go? Little Rock, Arkansas. I don't know. Yeah. And it'd be mad. Bro. Oger men with young girls. No, but them young girls are fucking them for that check that he get on the first day.

We're not doing that. It ain't much. It's something. It's something there. It's an incentive. It's an incentive. That old nigga, first of the month come, she right at his crib with him.

girl he want me to just cook for him and just you know rub his feet he gonna give me a little $800 that's a lot you know some people $800 just to go over there and kick it just to go over there and kick it what old man need their feet rub you're available $800? That's great I told you I'm worried do anything for money that's you make something shake you know he makes something shake for $800 I'll make him a smoothie that was a terrible terrible joke God. Shout out to Tracy Ellis Ross the fuck it.

Let her get her shit off. Hey, I'm probably 35 in two weeks. And this is why when you say stuff like that boo, you got to clarify because she could be talking about a nigga that's seven years younger

to her and they don't put 25 year old men on you. Tracy Ellis Ross ain't saying she likes younger guys and saying the dude is 45. It's not a younger guy. Not even though. But to women,

I think we're actually nice and saying 35. Yeah, like come on. She might be talking about 30. Yeah. Like, it's okay. She can do whatever fuck she won. But if the roles was reversed, a guy saying that, it would have been a fucking

shit stall. And you know, I believe in double standards. So it's cool. It's just like when Nia Long went on that talk show and they asked her about the J. Colbar. She's like, oh, he's not too young for me. If that was flipped, we see Leo do it, but he's never said it on a talk show. He said that shit out of him. Yeah, he ain't going to do that. He ain't going to say that out of it. We know what he's doing, but he ain't going to say that out. No. Leo was fucking sick. Listen, man, it is what it is. But I mean, listen, all those women are with them because they're fans of the spians and the art form. Yeah, for sure.

And Leo just, you know, likes young brains that he can develop. What's up with Kevin Gates, man? He's a dream guest for me for this point. I ain't going to lie. I was not expecting. Well, first of all, Kevin Gates, he posted a video. He was saying how he didn't like the way Savannah looks at LeBron. It's just crazy.

he said that he said that he prefers the way white women look at him I didn't know Wickham was taking us on that one but I ain't cool um I don't even see the connection which is isolating LeBron and his wife yeah that was but it was crazy because as we know the NBA playoffs were starting for the last however many years anytime the playoffs start LeBron goes absent on social media but he did break his uh zero dark 30 moment yesterday and respond to posted a photo of him and his wife Savannah and uh captioned it with uh why would a king would he said kings don't concern themselves with the opinion opinions of peasants um a lot of people felt like that was in response to take that Kevin Gates uh video it probably was I'm sure it was

I just feel bad now because I think Kevin Gates makes great music now we'll never get LeBron just you know bopping his head in the back seat to a Kevin Gates record like there goes your career. You know what kills me about the kings don't or the lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of the sheep? That's literally you concerned you like you broke your dark streak to like come out here and concern yourself with the opinions of the peasants. And like one of y'all ever see like sheep near lions. It's not even like the same continent hemisphere. Of course they don't. They don't know things. A lion saw sheep. They'd be like what the fuck is that? You know how hot a sheep would be in Africa? All the line going to do is look and see how far like

Like, all right, where is this nigga on the totem pole? Because where is he on the food chain? Because he might be able to kick my head. I've never seen this before. I think it might originally was supposed to be wolves. And I think it just got changed to lions by like folklore. Oh, yeah. I've heard the wolves and that old shit.

But I mean, I'm with you, though. There's been plenty of times that King's concerned themselves a peasant. Yeah. And Kevin Gates is a pet. It's a wild thing to say. Yeah, but I mean, that's just more so of LeBron's. That's some peasant shit to say, though. Yeah, but we know LeBron.

And you're concerning yourself. One thing we know by now is. His dad, LeBron is, he sees everything, he hears everything, and a lot of things bother him. He just chooses what to and what not to respond to. I felt like he felt this was a little getting a little too loud. And, you know, obviously his wife was the, you know, the topic of the whole thing. And this is him holding his wife down. I mean, you know, he wanted to just come out and say something and make it clear that, you know, him and his wife are happy.

And, you know, regardless of what anybody has to say online, like, you see a picture of how she looked at him in that moment. She might have been mad at him at the moment. Who gives a fuck? We've been married for like 30 years. Yeah, like, we've been together. Who's wife for long-term girlfriend looks at them great all the time? Yeah, like, so, you know, it just was a whole, you know, one of those things that the internet gets a hold of and takes things out of proportion. And, you know, I'm just glad that LeBron decided to kind of, you know, silence that and step on that shit and, like, man, cut this shit.

Well, I mean, he's just protecting his queen, Kevin Gates said this, because it's Bernie Runner's full white, right? Yeah. No, she's not white. I'm sure she's a African. Okay. I thought she was African? I thought she was white. Nice, I like that.

Never heard that before. I'm not going to say it. I like that. Never heard that before. No, I think she's full white. They're just like... Brittany Runner has black in her. Okay.

Well, I mean, that's a fact. Yeah. She perverged it, actually. You know what? Evidence. Yes. It's a track. There's a book, actually.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We shout out to Brittany Runner. We're not, yeah, yeah, no. Support her, I guess. White mother. love black. Brittany Renner says her white mother loved black penis more than she loved me. Mm, mm-mm-mm-mm.

That black gold. Look at just how trauma gets placed down by generation. And she had racist grandparents, which is one thing I never understood. If you know your parents racist, why are you going to go have a black baby? Oh, you do that when you don't like your family. But why are you putting your kid through that? So you should side with your racist grandparents to validate their views? We had this conversation before, though.

I remember y'all disagree with me on it. When the girl was like, his family, his Mexican families, they're kind of racist, but I still want to have a baby with him. And I was just like, why the fuck would you do that to your kid? Oh, yeah. Somebody called in with that. Yeah. Well, no, I could see if somebody was dating someone that had a racist family and didn't want to participate because now they have to be attached to that. But if you have racist parents and you don't agree with their views, you should just go with that.

You should be very aware. Like validate what they say. No, you shouldn't have them babysitting your half. black child. Oh, that I agree. No, they definitely shouldn't be, you don't want to leave a brown baby in a house or a racist household. Like, that's just not a good idea. But, you know, that, that, that, families growing up in a racist household, you know, that's why it's interesting for somebody to say, oh, my, you know, my parents, my grandparents are racist. And then you see them. And obviously, they're not. They have friends and, you know, people that they work with that they actually

absolutely loved that. Voted for Obama. Yeah. They're not racist. So that's how, to me, that race, This shit is just like supposed to be handed down, but I do think that, you know, a lot of people growing up, you know, once they come of age, they're like, listen, this is stupid. Some of my best friends in school are the same exact people y'all are telling me to hate Mexican, black, whatever, like, and we all get along great. And then you become an adult and you realize that all of that shit is stupid and dumb. Live your fucking life. I mean, it seems like Brittany Runner's mom was the furthest thing from racist. Well, no, she absolutely loved. She loved.

She hated her children. Yeah, hated her children. Yeah, but love black penis. according to Brittany Runner. So, oh, and Britney is, she is biracial.

Yeah. African. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, Kevin was speaking to one side of the family. Yeah.

That's all it was. To her mom. I am glad LeBron responded to that, though. It's kind of weird because, again, LeBron don't respond

to shit during the playoffs. He don't post. Don't do shit. But I am glad that he broke that, you know, that code just for, just for that. But sometimes you do got to let,

tell people to shut the fuck up in a very element. So then tell people to shut the fuck up. Don't come out here and say a king doesn't concern himself with the opinions of peasants when that's exactly what you just did when you responded to him. So you are concerned. So either come out here and say, yo, shut the fuck up, suck my dick, or I beat the fuck out of you. Keep my wife name

out of your mouth, bitch. Like, go full Will Smith with it or don't say nothing at all. Ignore it. Yeah, but that's not the LeBron James brand, though. I just saw him yell at Stephen A. He didn't say suck my dick, though. Okay, you don't got to say suck my dick, but keep my wife name on your mouth. Don't talk. Don't mention my wife. Stay that. Or don't say nothing at all. Don't say. say this fake cryptic shit when we all know who you're talking about. But you can't really went for losing with that because if he did that during the playoffs, he'd be cooked. If you're telling somebody to keep my wife's name on your fucking mouth, suck my dick, this and that

during the playoffs, yeah, you're cooked. And your team looks a little shaky. So then don't say anything. I'm on that side. Well, I think the lake is a cooked anyway, but that's just me. He could have said anything? Yeah. LeBron didn't have to respond to that and I feel like the lake is a cook, but, you know,

that's just me. While I don't agree with Kevin Gates' point of view on that, still my dream guest on the podcast, If anyone is a mutual friend of ours that knows Kevin Gates, please let him know that we would love to have him on the show. I have thousands of questions. Yeah, for Kevin? What's the first question? He's one of the most interesting minds ever.

What's the first question you have for Kevin Gates? What was it like being at Bernie Runner's Shahad? I don't think he was at her Shahada, was he? In my head, he was. Oh, I don't know. I think she might have became Muslim before she met Kevin. I think. we were trying to figure

out which man got her to do that and then she walked in with Kevin Gates after everything after the process yeah so they probably kept it under wraps until okay I can see that for her reveal yeah I'm not mad at that Muslim reveal is crazy but no Kevin would be a hilarious guest

he's just funny a Muslim now Word no more dope game where are you out the game I'm a Muslim now you know okay that's what's up you still owe me that bread though Yeah, a lot on erase that.

Give me that 15K, you owe me my nigga. Holy shit. Do we think that LeBron, since he has broken his social media fast, can play cousins in the backseat on the way to the arena? Get him in that mode. And this song is highlight. Look, you want to talk about it? Josh, want to go ahead.

Talk about it. Talk about it. Kanye West said he was sucking dicks since he was eight years old and stopped when he was 14. That's six years of dick sucking. that Kanye said he was sucking his cousin's dick After six years there is like you kind of get tired of it There is a little hump you got over Damaris

What? What are you talking about? I'm just saying it can get tired after six years It's like a relationship You gotta find ways to make it new again I understand why you stop after six years Nah I don't know I don't know if I agree with that

Nah no I'm crazy I ain't write the fucking song All right read the lyrics maw Why I gotta read this You were the one that said straight men suck better dick Yeah you read it Maris? Now it's a six years cap on it? I can't speak from the man's point of view.

I need one of y'all to speak from the man's point of view. If I read it, it's just going to sound like freaky. If y'all read it, they're really going to get the full effect. No, it's going to sound freaky no matter who reads this shit. Because there's some freaky shit going on. Fuck it, I'll read it. Hang it with my cousin reading dirty magazines. We've seen some niggas kissing.

We ain't know what that shit means. Why are you reading like the Furious Five? I feel like I didn't hear the song. Broken glass. Everywhere. Sucking dick. Everywhere. It was me and my cousin.

I just don't care. Coyer. All right. Hanging with my cousin reading dirty magazines. We've seen some niggas kids and we ain't know what that shit mean. Then we start reenacting everything that we had seen.

That's when I gave my cousin head. He doubled up on the game my cousin's head. That's when I gave my cousin head. Gave my cousin head. No, but you have to understand. Gave my cousin. Wait, that's the hook? What is this the bridge?

Is this the top? The bridge? I'm bringing me. Gave my cousin head. Gave my cousin head. I gave my cousin head. What is this shit, man? You don't have to understand on the second gave my cousin head, gave my cousin head. He goes into a falsetto. Like the first one, he's back. He's back the vocal. He was harmonizing. That's crazy. I'm so glad I hear this song. Look at the bridge. I saw you outside again. Just hanging out with your friends. Now you mad your cousin got home boys. And I know these niggas about to judge me now. And I know these niggas about to judge me now. Started off when we was hanging out, told my cousin not to tell nobody.

Please no, don't tell nobody. That's the ad lit? Yeah. No, but it's like off in the distance. Please don't tell nobody. It's crazy. People tell me to take it to my grave. Truth will set you free someday.

I don't think they understand that I'm not attracted to a man. They thought I was getting. All right, now hold on, Kanye. You just told us you gave your cousin head. And now you're saying people thought you was attracted to a man? We didn't know. And who told you to take you your grave if no one knew? Well, I'm sure somebody knew.

Do you think that line in real friends when he said he gave his cousin 250K to get the laptop back that he was fucking bitches on? It was really them fucking. Wait, hold on now because now the hook says nitrous don't help me. It just put me in a trance. I'm talking about euphoria. I am not talking about a man. We didn't think you were. Told her, don't leave me because I need you on my side.

As long as you don't leave me, then I'll probably be all right. and that one time that you left me I didn't get no sleep that night and that one time that you left me I took 10 perks to get high 10 perks to get high I pray that I don't die but if I die see you in the sky

two pints of the quack quai two pints of the quai quai okay my bad two points of the quay quay don't leave just stay bay let's go on vacate leave the world behind bring sigh back now so

Who's a co-writer? So he's not talking about a man. He's talking about euphoria? No. No, no, no. He's talking about a man. But when he said nitrous, something, don't leave me. He said, I'm talking about euphoria and not a man.

So his cousin's name, not nitrous, but like, you know. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, okay. So he's singing to his cousin and the nitrous oxide. Now, his cousin is. If he called his cousin nitrous, that'd be gayer than sucking his dick. I literally.

So, so this is his cousin who is doing life in prison for kill. a pregnant woman I read, right? Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know how true that was. Oh. Or how it was connected, but yeah. This is for his cousin, his Cole Cousins. Oh, where his cousin living in jail then?

If he's into this type of stuff. Oh, yeah, this is, he's in Disney World. But, yeah, I just, you know, I don't know if Kanye is being, if this is true, if he's just doing this for more shock value. Either way, I really don't care. I didn't hear the song. I don't plan on hearing this song. I'm just at that point.

You should give it just one listen. Just for your own. Just so you could really know how he delivered this. No, I'm cool. He said he, till he was 14 years old, he said he was doing this. So for people who are really, have really been, I hate to be the Debbie Downer, who have really been victims of Coxa, which is C-O-C-S-A, C-O-C-S-A, Child-N-Chile Sexual Assault. We are not laughing at you.

We do not think that that is funny because- Wait, what is it called? Oh, no, we're not doing that. Child on Child, Child Sexual Assault. When children are messing around with other children. It's not, you're not, you're a victim, but like, it's, it's weird. It's weird because you don't want to send a child to jail for something that they were probably shown by an adult, right?

But so if that's what happened to you, we're not, if that's, if that's what really happened with this, we're not laughing at Kanye because that's not okay, not to laugh. But if Kanye is just doing this for shock value, this is just another. I don't think he's lying. Even if he's doing it for shock value, I don't think he's making this up. I think it kind of tracks with a lot of his personality, being addicted to porn, super over sexual. Kanye's been that guy

his whole career and a lot of that can probably stem from abuse as a kid. Yeah. So it's probably true. I'm not laughing at him. I am going to laugh

at certain lines though. Not laughing at him. I'm just laughing at the fact that you would harmonize something like that. Yeah. Like it's just, that's my thing. It's just like,

all right, you know, if that was the case and it's like, damn, you know, hate that you had to go through some shit like that, but why I make it a song? That's all.

No, I mean, You've got to get your trauma help. Maybe this helped him. Get it out, but we don't need it on the DSPs, though. Go to therapy, you know, get the help that you may need. But when you put it, give it to us like this, it's just like, I don't harmonize the gave my cousin's head. Like, just don't stack the vocals there and give us the adlibs behind that is all I'm

saying. If I find out Aunt Clemens came up with these melodies. Poor Anne. If I find out. You call aunt No, no, no, call aunt, dog Call aunt, call and because I need to know

Who wrote this? Who produced it? Who wrote it, man? We got to stop this shit, man. We got to stop. No, fuck that. We got to stop. Oh, he might be in the West Coast

so he's up because you know he'd be in session's late. Nah, he up. He up out. He knows the song just dropped me. You're trying to run down that pub? He's with his cousin. You know, all right.

And I'm going to fuck you up. That's my God, man. And got to tell us who stack the vocals, though. Because if I see you featuring Ann Clements and the credits, I'm like, all right, dog. All right, dog. Let's go in this scenario, though. Let's say Kanye hasn't done all this outrageous shit, which, by the way, is, today was so funny on the internet. I don't agree with this political shit. Then he said, I was sucking my cousin's dick

till I was 14 and everyone like, done. I'm done with Kanye. Get him out of here. Have you seen the shit he's been saying before? Come on. Done, done. Get him out. Get him out.

It's enough. Enough is enough. Calling children retarded. All this. I was like, listen, man. You know, graduation. Yeah, enough is enough. Enough is enough.

Now you're sucking your cousin off. All right, man. You're just too much shit going on. All right. Let's say he had none of these antics and he was still the Kanye legacy that we all used to know and love. And you are a songwriter and had the opportunity to work with Kanye, a dream come true. And you walk in the studio the first day and on the whiteboard, that's the topic. Are you writing this song with him?

No. Because I feel like to be a great songwriter, you have to be able to put yourself there in a situation. And I can't put myself there. What if he brought the dirty magazines that popped it all off? So you could just get like the imagery. And then what if he called one of your cousins? Like just not to do anything, but just be in the room.

That's not real to me. Okay. But songwriters have to do the perspective of the artists they're working with. Like that's what makes the great ones. Yeah, but that's just not the song for. They know how to write from Rihanna's perspective. Yeah, no, but that's just not the song for me. I can't do that.

Okay. But hopefully you'll find a person that can pin that for you, though. How would you go about telling Kanye that you'll be in Studio B? Yeah. That's just not on my algorithm. That's not in my idea. I don't know how to write from that perspective, fan. I'm like never experienced that.

It's not real to me. I know obviously people go through it, but that's not my experience. All right. Well, then there goes your Sony Pub deal. Yeah, no. For that song, yeah, I'll pass. Definitely pass on that record.

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But alright let's go there It's so fucking mad at us In no way are we making fun Of a case or anybody That is Been annually raped Or is accusing Let the courts figure everything out

I see Shannon Sharp Is already defending himself By leaking some text messages I'm not victim blaming anyone I just think Tony Buzzbee Is a clown And I think hiring him as a lawyer doesn't make you look like you're telling the truth,

but let the courts figure that out. We're not here to talk about that. Was that good, DeMaris? That's fine. Okay, now, let's read the text messages that this woman sent Shannon Sharp. Lord. I must be doing some words.

I never get text messages like this. Only if you put that baby gravy in me, then I can do whatever I want. This is her texting him. Yeah, this is not Shannon texting her. Okay. I want to put my tongue in your asshole, and then I want to marry you.

This is still her. That's kind of romantic, actually Yeah, I get it Like long term Like yeah But I just don't view you as like a sex object Like I also That's my daddy fuck

I want you to put a big black baby in me See And this will y'all be fucking now All right Hold on hold on Hold on Is this a white woman though It's a Latina

Okay All right There's a follow up to that one You better crave it because you're going to be stuck with it for life after you put a big black baby in me as if he didn't get it the first time. How do you put a pig black?

Yo, it's just a refreshing to know that somebody like Shannon Sharp on the phone talking like this. Because sometimes you just got to have wild conversations, but all, go ahead, man. I want you to put a dog collar around my neck and choke me with it while you're fucking me. That's standard though.

Wait, so Shannon Sharp's screenshot does you put it out? Yeah, this is a statement from his He's whacked, though, because he deleted what he was saying. See, that's why it's whack. Don't do that. Don't screenshot shit once you delete yours off the text thread. See, that's the shit I don't like, man. Why this trial, again, not making light of it, even though we're laughing.

This is already discovery. Like, they're going to have to read the whole text message. Yeah, the exchange. Like a court sternographer is going to have to read this. And type it out, yeah. And it will be available to all American citizens at some point. That's what I'm saying. But he posted screenshots where you can't see what he said?

He didn't even post screenshots. He posted a statement from him and his team. This statement? Yes, that has the text messages in it. But not what he said to her. No. No. That's why.

I know you missed this big juicy ass. 25K for each cheek. Good negotiation. Shit. She said you missed this big juicy ass. Then dot, dot, dot, 25K for each cheek. That's how much you got to pay her? I think so.

Or is that how much he paid for the surgery was $50,000? We'll have to find out and discover it at the trial. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got to wait and see. This lawsuit filed by Gabrielle and orchestrated by her attorney, Tony Busby is a blatant and cynical attempt to shake damage to trust. Tony Busby once again, huh? For a million dollars, just filled with lies, distortions, misrepresentations,

and will not succeed. It just continues on to say that she's lying and then more text messages. So Tony Busby, once again, behind some... So we don't know, but yeah. Well, I mean, we know Tony Bosley. Judge by his track record. Yeah, we can't really put too much into that. And let's also be clear, there's also where I'm not saying Shannon Trump is a rapist whatsoever.

I'm not putting anything on anyone's jacket. There's also a world where someone could text back and forth like that. And then also sexual assault can happen. Yeah, sure. It's just, I mean, where does she rank on any woman you've ever texted? I've never even come close to this. No one's asked for a big white baby. Yeah, no.

A little white baby. No girl has ever asked me for a big black baby, no. No. Never got that text. Like, why are y'all fucking women that talk to y'all like that? You got to see how I talk to them, do matter. I kind of try. I feel like that's what Shannon's, like, kind of into.

Judging by that IG Live thing, I really think, like, I think he popped off this energy. I don't know if you. He got a what? A share cropper fetish. Why he got a shit cropper fetish? And what does that even mean? Why are you letting somebody talk to you like that?

Put a big black baby in me? me? I don't think that that's that crazy. I mean, you don't think that's that crazy? No. To have a non-black woman say that to you. You don't think that that's a big black man. She wants a big black baby. What you want? I don't see how out of that. That's not that crazy to me. I'm pretty sure it's crazy. Wait till the fucking the whole shit drop. We're going really see the crazy shit. She has a fetish for John Coffey from Green Lyle. That's what I'm saying.

She's trying to get birth to the next John coffee. Yeah. I don't think that that's that crazy, though. It's insane. What are you talking about? Now, if she would have said put a nigger baby in me, then we're like, whoa, she tripping. But put a big black baby in me? Huh?

No, not really. I mean, it's kicky talk, but I don't think it's like, it's not nothing to be offended by it from shying a shop. I wouldn't be offended by it. All right. You want to make a push-up bet that when the discovery comes out and they leak all the text messages that she did not use the hard ar? That she did not? Guarantee that somewhere in that text conversation. Nah, I don't think so.

I think he would have put that out immediately. Yeah, yeah, I don't think so. I don't think she. And he would look nuts. Like, you kept fucking with a girl that called you that. Why? Why? Why does he look nice?

Don't wait. First of all, he's the one that always says don't kinkshame. Yeah. Share crop of fetish. That's a fetish. That's a fetish. Don't kishame. If that baby grainy is a thing.

Yeah. Don't king shame now, Damaris. Yeah. He like, you're right. Yeah. You're right. You, mm-hmm. you're right no see

no no no don't do that this is what see because this is what baby deep piss me off at she's what she wrong she don't like that she don't like that he got you though

I'm a hypocrite for sure yeah exactly I'm cool live on it I respect that I don't you I admit it you know and you ain't me

wait whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what oh okay alright all right yeah yeah

because you is DJ had than you did you didn't you no why DJ had who catching a fucking I have a question

Is Jamaris a big black baby? Beech, he's the one that created it. That was a big black baby. That was a big, that was a big baby. That baby came out of 14 pounds. Oh, yeah. Eight ounces for sure.

Yeah, DeMaris needed some recovery. Yeah, Damaris said she ain't pushed back from the table at all when she was pregnant. Mm-mm. She ate everything. Mm-hmm. I hate this podcast. So, so much. Hey, Shannon Sharp, I don't think that this lady has much of a case.

I'm going to be honest. Anytime Tony Busby is attached to something, I'm automatically thinking this bullshit at this point. So we just have to wait and see. How do you get a woman to talk to you this way? Have some money. There you go. Cha-ching.

Oh, yeah, I guess this is what we're talking about. Going only fans and just ask a girl to send me messages like, cha-ching, there you go. Never had a girl say baby gravy to me. That's so creative. it's like kind of attractive if someone can come up with something like that

put that big Irish baby in put that big redhead baby in me I want a redhead baby baby I want a shepherd's pie in this oven put your shepherd's pie inside my oven put all that potato famine up in me

give me your cabbage that's what you eat right trying to corn your beef put your corn be in me. Yo, it is so refreshing. It is so refreshing to know that Shannon Shaw is receiving these types

of text messages. Oh, man. The world made me not be so in bad shape after all. Wait, hold on. There's dates on this. Can we look up to see if any of these times he was currently filming Club Shay-Shay?

Damn, this is 1-1-2020-5. And this girl's only 23, DeMaris? Damn, this is your first text message of the year? Come out of the game. That's crazy. Shannon just didn't want us to see how he like his game when he started talking to. He didn't want us to see that. And also this, her game kind of trash because in January 12th she said put a big black baby

in me and then August 6 rolled around and there was still no big black baby in her because she's still asking for them. Hmm. What was he doing August 6th, 2024? If I, if I find out he was talking to Kat Williams. If she said, his phone was on the chair. See, this is why I know. Lighten up with those messages.

This is why I know he's sick because I, I'm a. woman, I can understand because I've seen niggas delete day text message. You better crave it because you're going to be stuck with it for life. That means he texted her and said he was craving the big black baby. And she said, you better crave it because you're going to be stuck with it for life after you put a big black baby in me.

You're doing the context clues. Yeah. Yeah. You're actually a thousand. He said he was craving it. August 6, 24. I mean, if that's his thing, why King Shane? I'm not King's how he gets his shit off. Yeah.

That's my mom's shit. I wish they put the times in here too. Because I got to see at what, like, if this is, this looks like early afternoon shit for Shanna's short. I don't even think this was like late night. I think like he was at the gym. In between set? She didn't know like he thought he was on a Zoom with volume.

Yeah. At 8 a.m. 9 a.m. Oh, man. Sex than before the sun go down is just crazy. Like, y'all don't feel like that. I feel like people could see you, no? Probably. You don't sexting in the daytime?

I don't sex in the daytime. I don't sex in. I don't I don't we'll be back after a word from our sponsors man this is like I'm not here

I don't think there's any adult that hasn't sexting the nurse is lying I've never said that I didn't do it before I've never said that I was a young girl once I did that I'm not doing I'm grown as fuck the fuck I'm like sexting right now I'm not doing that shit

niggas turn 30 and act like they're the same age as mother Teresa what the fuck is going on it's just not for me I feel weird. I'm not doing that. Sexting or sexting in the daytime? Sexting, period. It's just not me.

I'm not saying it's anything wrong. But I know it's very normal. It's just not something that I do. I also don't date. Like, I'm not, like, I'm just chilling. Right now. Period. But if you dated and dealt with someone seriously,

and they wanted to sext, you would say no? It's not, I'm not. I don't regular text. You know, I don't regular text. So sexting is real weird for me. I thought you were ignoring my text because you were sexting. Now, we could FaceTime. And we could do a little something on FaceTime, but I'm not texting.

I'm not. No one's going to be able to screenshot some shit for me. You bugging the fuck out. That's where it was, okay, that's what we're going. Damaris don't want no evidence and no paper trail. She's smart. Okay. You don't want no paper.

That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm up on the summer gym screen with text. Nah. If you expose me, you're going to have to go all the way. You're going to have to do. It's going to be damn near revenge for it.

But the Maris, you don't need the screenshot why you busting it open on. That is true. That's fine. I need a lawsuit. That's fine. I need a lawsuit. It tells you when someone... Well, now, yeah.

Yeah. Would that kill the mood? If I'm on FaceTime with a girl... Let's just snap clothes like, hey, what you're doing? What the fuck was that? What the fuck was that? It would distract me other way around. If I just saw that notification while I'm up there cornered my beef, I tell you, yeah, what

you're you doing? Oh, man, that's hilarious. You ever been getting dressed on a girl in the bed, Rory? And you, like, walking around naked and you hear, like, the camera flash. Yes. Sorry. Yeah.

It's always on my ass and I know it's not like for the sexy purposes. It's to laugh at me. Put you in the group chat. Because you're like chicken little. 100% in the group chat. Look at this nigga without his clothes on. It could look like a wet. I'm actually getting better than wet type.

Hey, no. Get your shit up, bro. I mean, my ass is that's just genetic. There's no hope for it. That's never going to do anything. You can do some squats, fool. No, I've been doing squats. I've been doing squats.

I, it's, you know, it doesn't. But don't look at me when you say you've been doing squash. So look at demarice. Like he doesn't cuff or anything. Look at DeMaris. Don't look at DeMaris. Don't look at me. Look at Josh.

Look at DeMaris. She asked you. She's the one who told you you could do squawks. I don't have like a flabby ass. But it's just not like the. You're talking to God? Why did you curse me? You don't have like a hump.

Like you don't got like a show. My lovely lady. Here we go. Look at Demarish. You don't have a show? You don't have a show. Wait, what's that mean? Oh, man.

Like your love Peter. It was like, is there something to hold on? Like if somebody was holding your love handle? Oh, yeah. To hold on. Well, I mean, why would it be the position that you're... I didn't say it had to be sex, bro. Somebody could walk up behind you and hug you.

Like, you're tripping. Yeah, I got a little... Like, you got a little cuff. Well, something, you know. Something to work with. That's what so. Like, as long as I'm a good listener, she'll deal with it. Yeah.

I'm so over any insecurity. I just walk around butt ass and not tear me. Man, I don't give up. I've been here. I've been to a fuck. I don't give a fuck. Like, I used to, like, a little bit. Man.

I don't give me a fuck now. I don't care at all. This is who I am accepted. Man, listen. When you start paying all these fucking bills, I walk around. I don't give a fuck. Fuck who you and whoever else you send that picture to.

Eyes close. Just swinging. I don't give a fuck. Shit, life is rough. I don't know. My home girls don't really. send the like the men naked pictures anymore they send like the we send the snores like yeah nightquil just the snores like nightquil see that's when i'll just jump in the chat like no i got

sleep apnea it ain't she did like because you can't even go to sleep like after you had sex without a girl text i'm like yeah i put that nigga this no you i've been up since 5 30 this morning it is 12 30 at night you got if a nigga wake up at 9 a m and he back sleep by 10 then that's when you can send the night quill to you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah if you're you're You, okay, okay, fair. Nick will wake up 9 a.m. He's back to sleep by 10. Or if a nigga, you put a nigga to bed at 5 p.m.

And he sleep through the night. He need a nap. Shit, sometimes you need a nap. De Maris, I ain't going to lie. Naps? Sometimes you need one, man. Man, true story is she was in a living room watching Netflix. I just beat off and went to sleep.

Beating off while your girl in the house is crazy. You know how crazy that is? We've had this conversation before, Mom. Well, Maud doesn't even think you're allowed to beat off when you have a girlfriend, period. But the house, yes. That is kind of odd if, like, she's right there. Well, maybe she doesn't. doesn't want to have sex.

Please, please, just, you know what? Nothing. Not, wasn't going to go anywhere with that whatsoever. Thank you. I was just saying maybe you should just wait until she wants to. You don't need to go beat off. That's what, see, but that's why our relationships is tough, though. Because if I'm horny and I want to have sex and my partner isn't horny, doesn't want to have sex,

obviously I can't have sex, right? So I'm kind of whack if I go and masturbate. You're not whack if you're going to masturbate. That's whack. most people would be like most couples would be like yeah that's crazy in the house and you're just going to shower you're talking to shower

and you rub one out most couples would tell you that that happens more often and you like I think masturbate while y'all in the house y'all don't like each other no or maybe you've been in a if you've been in a relationship for years and it's your partner don't want to have sex

they're on their period they got a headache no get the fuck off oh no no we understand physically you can you just you know you cycle oh yeah no come on we understand that we're not animals but just because you horny don't mean I have to be horny don't mean I have to be horny no but you need to get on my level with me though

let me get you there You know what I'm saying? Because what you're going through? Let's talk about it. Maybe I'm just not in the mood to have... Not everybody is in the mood to have sex all the time. It'll be times where I'm not in the mood to have sex, but if my girl come in the room and she...

But naked, take her... Oh, I'm ready now. You're not really not in the mood to have sex. Like, some people just don't be in the mood to have sex. Like, they don't work the full eight-hour shift. You over here want to have sex? You don't go find something to fucking do? Demaris, let me tell you something.

I could work three overnight shifts in a row. If I like my girl. What are you doing overnight, well? I'm just saying, I don't know whatever job in a row. I walk in the room and I'm not tired. My girl fresh out the shower, naked, she hop on. It's time to rock and roll. I think you need to be in a long-term relationship with a woman in her 30s

because you're going to start to be like, yo, can you relax? I'm not trying to fly. Yeah, I got to get what people y'all really like. Women in the 30 sex drive is different. And you can only take so many rounds before it's like, oh, can you relax so I can go snort? Just let me feel, let the sack feel back. up. Get that baby gravy going? Yeah, then we go right back to it. That's all. But people

just don't be in relationships with people they really like that. They're not attracted to them like that. I'm telling you, it's a real thing. We have any voice notes. Nah, nah, we're talking about this, Demaris. Niggas being relationships with people they don't really like. Stamp that. I said that. Or just time happens. What you mean about time? If you're in a 25-year relationship, yeah, there may be some less desire. for that person. It's kind of natural. You don't like, you're not attracted to this person anymore. Divorce them and find a young girl that's in it.

So you're saying what I'm saying. You're not attracted to this person anymore. I didn't say why you're not attracted to that person anymore. But that's the reason you're just not attracted to that person anymore. So everyone that's married. Nah, some people that's married that they'll, they'll still let you know. Nah, we two, three times a day. Because you need to start spicing it up like Shannon Sharp and the old girl. Like, that's what you got to do to keep things new. Got to get on freaky shit. How freaky though.

Cousins. Cousins, big black babies. It's a freaked out-ass podcast. No, we're reporting the freaked-out-ass niggas niggas that's out here.

It ain't us. We ain't doing that. Shannon and yay. Yay and Shannon. That's what that's who doesn't do that shit. Not me and Rory, no. I've never seen a gay magazine before.

What were they acting at? Like, what is in gay magazine? Because, like, Playboy was usually, just like women like naked like photoshoots there's just like dudes making out and giving each other head in magazines they have porn mat what Rory where have you been

they have I'm reading the lyrics this was in the fucking 80s back in the day they had porn magazines people were fucking I know I have I took my cousin's butt man go to the newsstand right now you see gay boy oh wait hold on speaking of which Ant's calling back do we have voicemails

You've got mail Hey what I'm sorry ma baby D what a dude Look, I got a question, right? Because I was having this debate with my friends, and they told me this is some suck of shit, so I don't know if this is a sucker shit or not. Is this suck of shit for me to pull up on a girl,

eat her box, and then get nothing to return? You're the realest nigga alive. Word up. I said, that's not sucking shit. I said, that's cool. Like, if that's all you want from the girl, that's all you want. And they're like, nah, yo. like fuck you're a bitch or something

like fuck you mean fuck you mean you only want to give a head and I'm like bro like maybe I didn't maybe I just felt like eating box you feel me like you know what I'm saying that shit fun but they told me that sucker shit so I want to know

is that suck of shit or not that's really all I need you know what I'm saying Baltimore nigger signing out that kid's having a life now he's a real nigger wording to me

And when God rise up from the day, he's really going to reward him for the real-ass shit he's doing it, how he contributed in a society. We appreciate you, my brother. And this is why I believe in double standards, especially when they work in our benefit. It's fine if girls just give you head and that's it, it's done.

You just eat some pussy. And you just sit in there hard? That's what, okay. So that's where I was going to go with it. Because I'm like, now you're just sitting here hard. Like, if I'm being a girl, I'm like, I'm turned on. I want to have sex now.

So it's like how you do that and just leave? Maybe he got off. That's what he got off from it. That's crazy. No, that's not. You say he nutted? Well, giving me a girl ahead. Girls have done it.

Y'all don't think men can do it. I've definitely watched. I've heard of situations where men have nutted from it. Oh, no. I've definitely came too quick and then pretended like I was just going back down to eat the pussy. That's an angel trick. You know, no nigger that ever did that. I don't want to hear that shit.

Demaris, the nigger came from eating you out? No, no, not me. I don't even date men, but I'm saying I've, I've heard of situations of it happen. Is that what I'm saying? I'm not, I'm just not rolling with that. I think y'all think niggins be less horny. I think she's confusing the trick of when you feel like you're about to nut too quick. So you pull out and then you're like, you're like, you're ready, start eating the pussy.

Off the, no. Close the line. Homie close. Comey close with the line. No, man. I can't, no, no, I don't believe that. I do not believe that. I do not believe that.

I'm letting y'all know right now. I don't believe that men are coming in their jeans. Your home girl lied. No problem. I don't know. Maybe. I do believe that the man that would eat pussy fully clothed probably could not. I don't believe that.

Eating pussy fully clothes is hilarious. Lock that nigga up. The nigga that's able to do that, put him in prison. Because that's just a small peeking to the shit that he can do. For sure. To the society. And he did in wrangler jeans. Get him out off the streets.

Come in your jeans. Why you eat some, like, come on, fam. Come on, daw. We know, I love women. I get horny too. But a nigger ain't never been that horny. Come on yourself, fully clothed. Come on, man.

Now, if you want to eat a girl out and just go home, I just don't understand it because I would be ready to have sex. I would be aroused. I would be ready. Like, I just, I can't see it for me. I'm not knocking anybody that wants to pull them on their girl and just eat out and go back home. I mean, should girl, why not stay? Go back home.

Crazy. Yeah, I'm saying why not stay, like, finish? I don't, I don't know. Y'all do what y'all want to do. But y'all don't go sit here and tell me niggas are coming on themselves, fully clothed, not like masturbating while they're eating, I just don't believe that that happens. Do y'all think that women have done it? A rag after you just hate pussy and that's it is crazy.

Do you all think that women have done it? Do you have you ever seen women? Let me guess, you've seen women come from giving head, right? They come looking at more. No, I've never, I've never seen. Now, if she did, I don't know. Oh, okay. I don't know.

The one thing more has never seen. But it's different, but it's different when y'all come when men come. You're going to know when he came like, it's going to be a mess everywhere. Like a woman, just like, oh shit, she just crazy wet when she get up. Like, oh, damn. Like, so she may have.

I don't know. I'm just saying for a man to do it, it's just like, that's just crazy to me. Only time I've seen that they either had a vibrator or they were touching themselves while giving head. You have to be doing something to get there. And if I was eating pussy and, corner my beef? Yeah, I could probably

nut. But just to be chilling. Fully clothed. Well, maybe there was friction. How much friction? Nah. He dried up in the bed while he eating her out? It's just See, and this is where I sound crazy because, but that is absolutely insane to me. How was that even physically possible? I've never just ate pussy and that was it, but I mean,

I probably would. Oh, I'm calling bullshit. Oh, what? You've never just eating pussy. and that was it. Never, that's never happened to you. You've never had a moment where you couldn't get hard and you just ate pussy and kept eating pussy because you couldn't get hard. Are you telling me that never happened to you? Well, ew, my dig works.

Okay, all right. I'm just saying, okay. I'm not coming off. Me? That's what she's saying. Oh, I don't know what. I feel like that's happened to every boy that has ever done drugs or drink too much before. You've been eating pussy and couldn't get hard and you over there doing that awkward

jerk thing while you eating pussy. It's happened to every man. No, no, and then I got there. Or I just fuck with soft dick. See, now that's crazy. That's not crazy? He trying to nail jello to the wall. Because if that didn't work,

maybe if I get inside the pussy, I'll get harsh. He's pushing gushers through a keyhole and somehow. Facts. Everybody else weird. Crazy, mate. Yo, nah. I just feel like if you're in that mode of, like, oral sex, there's no way I'm not aroused.

There's no way. I've definitely been, like, too drunk and not been able to get hard, but she's giving me head to try to get me hard and it just didn't work. So I didn't just eat pussy and then put my clothes back on and go home. Well, if you do have ED, Roy, Roy. Roe Sparks right now, call Roy.

We have too many sponsors to you, so I'm not going to say products, but... You got to call Shannon. Call Shannon. We can get some Roast sparks to you. Don't trip, Roy. We're going to take care of you, man. We love you over here at Rory Mall.

If I know I'm out crazy night, come on. I'll be chewed up. There's no way. Yeah, yeah, you got to, man. You got to. Get that Rosebock here. I'll take that headache with a gas station. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Roe Sparks. You need the Roe Sparks. That's the problem. All that other shit, no. Roe sparks, row is a go. Before. Before Demaris. Roe will help you grow. You can't spell grow without Roe. Blacking some baby gravy?

Oh, bad. Baltimore, nigger, I don't know. I'm not going to say you crazy for eating the girl out leaving. He won't know if he's a sucker. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. I mean, again. But a sucker's born every seven seconds. I would probably, I enjoy eating pussy. I probably wouldn't mind. Yeah, that's okay.

You can be a sucker for your girl. It's all right. Yeah, that's not, I feel like if you just, if you're with your girlfriend, you just eat her pussy and that's it. Yeah, we've all done suck this shit for our lady, man, it's all good. It's all right.

That for your lady, but not for no rando. You don't do that to no rando. But then like, all right, so assuming he made her come and that's what ended it, or did he just stop eating pussy? and then she was just like, no. It could have been a little, like, quick thing. Like, because I've seen that happen to women.

Doing a mouth by is crazy. Yeah. Mouth by Southwest. Mouth by South West. Mouth by. He did a mouth buy. He did a mouth. This nigga doing mouth buys.

Niggas in Baltimore will kill you and do a mouth buy. Nigger, eat you out and go kill a nigga on the next corner. Nigger, stop eating you out to go shoot a nigga in Baltimore. Yeah. Y'all niggas and, I saw it on the wire. I think boating in something similar. Yeah, y'all are crazy down there and be more.

No, but I've seen that happen to women before where men will pull up and like just, you know, just to tease you real quick and leave. Yeah, I've definitely seen that before. That's not as crazy as y'all think that it is. No, I'm saying I would probably do it. I just haven't done it. Like, I like eating pussy. Yeah. Sometimes you got to do that a little bit.

A little, no, m m m m m m and get out of there. Get in and get out. I'll be back. Then like you just walk into the car hard. Yeah. It was a little awkward. I think your mental state has to be doing it, like, as a fun thing. Because if you, if your horny brain get too horny,

that's when I think you, like, really fuck around and get, like, brick. But, like, if you're doing it just to, like, tease her and play around, I don't think you'll get brick like that. I don't know, I don't have a penis. I just assuming. No. You get a break no matter what. The moment you smell, the cutchee, you break.

Yeah. That's, like, natural, no? No, I'm not making fun. I'm with you. Now it's weird to get hard when you're eating. No one said it was weird, poor. No one said it was weird. Yeah, that's the foreplay.

I get hard making out. Yeah, you're eating a pussy and ass. Like, I don't know why you, but not everybody like you. Not everybody's like you. You don't got this blood pressure? She'll flow through my body. Oh, man. Do we have another voicemail?

Please. That was it. Josh, he has two written down. He said, nah, we're good. We're good, Josh. Let it go. Let it go. This was all over the place.

This freaked out ass episode. Oh, man. Listen, it's all good though, man. It's all good. Oh, man. Just need a second to breathe. All right. DJ head.

Let us know. All right. You horny gang. This has been fun. I didn't know we was going to come here at the day after the Lord rose and have such a filthy sexual podcast. But listen, man. Kanye told us that he, you know, he was giving filial to his cousin. Shannon Sharp released some text messages from him and one of his lovely lady friends.

I mean, so we're here to just report on it. Amanda Binds is doing only fans. Listen, the world is on any place sometimes. Maybe I'll reignate my account for that. I want to chat with her. Okay. Ask her about behind the scenes and all that. Yeah.

It would be fun. See what she's up to. See if she's all right. But yeah, apologies, if anyone was offended. I swear we weren't trying to do that or make light of any situation. But, you know, you guys make fun of my sexual. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not apologizing.

You make funny your sexual assault. I'm not apologizing, man. Fuck that. Fuck it. It is what it is. All right, well, enjoy the week. We'll be back in a couple days to talk to you all. Thank you for joining us on this wonderful, wonderful podcast experience.

And we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. A win is a win. A win.

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