New Rory & MAL - Episode 370 | McG*ngb*ng

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

We know, we know. It's been a while since we've done a pod with just us. So with that said, today we catch up with one another. Fresh off our episode with the ladies from "Pour Minds", Demaris calls out Mal for acting different when women are in the studio (6:25). A recap of Mother's Day somehow turns into a conversation about fast food nostalgia (19:51). The BET Awards announced their nominees. Who are our early favorites to win the major categories? (45:27) Finally, a caller wants to know what's the wildest thing to happen to us in the bedroom (1:07:38). #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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mall being 35, I already am feeling pain in my shoulder. I woke up feeling different. It's been one week. I'm not even kidding, man. Not at 35. It's not a mental thing. Not at 35. I think I just slept wrong.

You're not allowed to talk like that until you're at least 40. I don't know if it was because of Mara like kicked me in the shoulder or I just slept wrong. But I'm definitely feeling like older. Yeah, but those little aches and pains, that's just like the, you know, when the floor starts creaking when you walk around the crib. That's just part of the game, man. Yeah, but I don't have 10-year builder insurance.

Yeah. I don't worry about it, man. It's right. man, just drink some water, man, and get some sleep. So you got to do, man. That's all we got. So what we got. How was your weekend, though?

Weekend was cool, man. Weekend was good. I tried to go see the counting two twice and miss both showtimes. I forgot one time, one day, when I booked the showtime, I forgot the game was on. I forgot it was like an early game. The Knicks played. I was like, oh, man, I'm not missing this game. So I used to.

Even though I could have missed that game. Would always hate when I'd visit my dad. Be like, let's go to the movies. I'm like, so we can miss half the fucking. fucking movie like, I don't know. Yeah. For years, I didn't know what happened in the beginning of Bad Boys, too.

Yeah, so I got to try to catch that the accountant two this week. But other than that, just chill. Watch the game. Watch the Knicks get, you know, the soul ripped out of their chest. Game three. Yeah, it was rough.

Hoping the Warriors can win without Steph. That's it, man. Just watching playoff basketballs playoff time, man. Yeah, I feel like we haven't caught up because we had Lex and Dre and we had poor minds. Shout out to poor minds, Lex and Dre. Everybody seemed to love that episode. Yeah, episode was really good.

I definitely want to go through some of that. But I feel like we haven't caught up. We had other guests that were putting stuff out, always YouTube content. But we haven't all caught up, I feel like in, like, over a week, right? We can have. Interesting DMs coming off of that episode. How so?

Just women DMing me. About what? Just, hey, great episode. Ah, okay, okay. You guys should have, y'all should do more content together. Y'all should go on tour together. I think we should do more content with them. I love them.

we have good chemistry because this and whatever. But live shows would be fun too. It's so crazy how different our DMs continue to be all the time. Because mine were just raging with people that I pressed a black queen and a white man should never do that. On top of the Swifties, I had a very violent request DMs over the past week. A lot of death threats. But I mean, to everyone that said, I took it too far, press Lex.

That's how we've always talked to each other for over 10 years. That's how we speak to each other. No, but me, ever. Me and PG even felt like conversation. We was like, yo, Rory was pressing the shit. Yes, you, I told us that you need to let it out. Lex and I have spoken to each other since the day we met. But this is what you fell into realize.

When we sit here. Yeah. No, I get the perception. This goes out. People don't know that that is your relationship with Lex and that's how y'all speak to each other. They don't get that part. Yeah, she's pressed me way crazy. In public.

A white man yelling at a black queen. That's what they get. What was it yelling? You were yelling. Okay. In their book. Well, I mean, if it means anything, Lex and I, spoke after and we're like hey I'm glad we cleared that up.

Way friends are supposed to do it. Let's go get a beer. Yeah, I guess I didn't rewatch it back, but I don't know. Again, that's how I thought we always speak to each other. Yeah, she didn't feel the way. So maybe her and I are just sick in the head. And this is how as friends, we scream at each other and deal with our issues. It's all right.

Friends should scream at each other sometimes. But, I mean, I did enjoy just having women in the room, as we continually say. You turn in to whatever your favorite community. is fill in blank. Maul becomes that. See, we're not doing that. Richard Pryor, I tell you, every time.

I was not Richard Pryor. You turned into Richard. You wasn't Richard at time. You was Eddie from Raw. But how, okay. You was free base in Richard. He wasn't as bad as it usually was. You were talking a lot this episode,

so Maul couldn't really get his shit off. But, Maul, when women come in the room, you just the funniest, most charismatic loving person. I'm not that person. Hell no. Well, I don't want to be loving and charismatic to Rory. I'm loving and charismatic to you I say hello

You guys press each other worse than me and Lex did so let's not even start That's our relationship That's me and the marriage's relationship Yo mall are coming here It'll be silent A bad bitch walking a room Maul just

Hey how are you doing Jokes next thing you know She giggling and shit That's not see Boy the last time you bought somebody in here That ain't happened I definitely haven't How?

A whole different person I literally look at Marr All of a sudden How? I look at my car I'm cleaning my car out It's got one of Mall's lighters With the little wick things

around. I'm like, he giving these chicks gifts now? She asked, like, we're not doing that. You're getting party favors coming to the office now? Wait, I don't mind y'all. Wait, I don't mind y'all. We're not doing that. I don't mind y'all you I paying that. But sometimes I got to stand up and defend myself. She asked for a lighter. And that was the only lighter I had. You know, that's how I lighted my jade. No, I know. So I gave her the lighter. I was like, yo, you can have it. I got a thousand lighters at home. See, usually I'm the one that either throw sauce on a story or lies about it to make me not look crazy.

You were explaining to her that. You were explaining to her that. health benefits of that WIC. Don't act like you just... Everybody asked. No, you were sitting there giving her the whole... Dreia's friend killer, she asked. When I gave her to J, she was like, oh, what's this? I said, y'all, I light it with the wick so that I don't get no lighter fluid.

Did you give it to a little? No, she left it right there on the hatchet. You were breaking down the periodical table of how the whip worked against the weed. I gave her a J. She smoked out to Killa. She smoked out to Killa. She was a sweetie pot. Yeah, she was great.

So I gave her a J, but she left my lighter and everything over there, though. Well, no, I mean, again, not in a disrespectful way. You just become a little bit more charming when there's women around. I mean, it's like welcome them into our home. You have to be, you know, you have to be a good host. You have to host. You have to make sure everybody's accommodated. But I was hosting her.

Yeah, but it was like, like I was right here though. Yeah, but I was literally right. I was hosting with you. She wasn't entertained by you. It was two ladies. And it was, you know. No, we talking about it was just her, right? We're talking about separate from poor minds.

Oh, yeah, accommodating. She waved hello. I waved hello back. Yeah. Sat right next to her with Matt available. on a left seat. No, we're not doing that. First of all, that's my seat, my setup right there.

Josh, you can see it, my tray, my weed, everything is right there on the table. So if I sit in that chair. I know, I think she was in this one away from the one and you sat not in your spot. That's not true. See, yo, he's painting. You know, we're not doing it. He puts, we're not doing that. First of all, I was show, Damaris brought into my attention and I looked over and I was like, oh, yeah.

Yeah, I told me, I said, we need to get women in the office all the time, so Maul could come in here, smiling and laughing and joking and shit. I'm all coming here and be like, we're ready to go. That would be the way that I would pay for an escort. Just weekly. No. You got to do nothing.

Just sit right. Nothing in all over. Just have your presence existing. That's not fair, man. We will pay you your rate. Because when I come in, it's like, I always tell Roy, I hate coming in and talking because I feel like we start having

conversations that we have on mic. So when I come in, I just kind of sit in my corner and just like, we know what we're going to talk about, but I don't want to have comments, start having conversations because I'm like, damn, we should be saying this on mic, which is what we're doing that.

If I would have came in and said, Baby Dee was good. You were smiling last week that would have turned it to a hole and then I'm not recording that. So now what happens real time. Got you. You producing me.

No, we're just living. That's all. These cameras was not even here, baby, Dee. What is this? This is not, what is that? What is that? What is that? Get that away from me.

It means nothing. This is life. This is real life. This is what we would be doing if the cameras and the mics weren't here. Josh, can you put on our to do list that we need to start interview process for

stand-in woman for Monday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. I'm not mad at having a standing woman on the couch. You can sit. We have wine. We have weed. You know, order food, whatever they want and just have them. A little arm candy. That would be like, that would be like our audience.

Miseries. Of like, you know, like, what do I have to do? Just look pretty. Sit there, yeah. Make eye contact with mall. You know, give him a little laugh when he says something, encourage him. I wish we still did skits because that would be a perfect one. Y'all would be you can't paint some crazy narratives about me, man.

That's not a crazy. narrative that it is funny you really do like you know you light a lot of us do but you're just funnier that's all see this is what happens when we don't have many you know heterosexual men left oh are you saying in the room no in the room I'm trying to get you guys you're in the room is crazy like you have to be a little bit more specific no the whole world's not in here I'm saying You don't need to do that. No, no, I'm just saying, like, this is what happens. Like, I love, y'all know me.

I love women, love being around women, kicking it with women. So anytime we have women in the room in the studio with us, it's always fun. It's like, oh, we got some women here. Like, let's have a good time. Like, DeMaris is a woman, but DeMaris is crude. Oh, no, my novelty wore off a long time ago. When I first started coming around, Mar would, like, be nice and smiling around me too. By like episode 40, that was gone.

Yeah, but once you became sis, a little sis and family, I got to treat you like little sis. Like, you know what I, you know what I, you know what type of energy. Like, it's that type of shit. Like, if I'm going to the fridge, move your ass. I'm going into the fridge. Yo, when I first met Maul, I was putting out some Yassolo. She said, yo, what's that? That's smell good.

Maugh, mind you, I come here, smell good every day. Maul ain't told me I smell good in three years. You little sis. I don't know. I'm not telling me. You know, get out of the way. You don't get out of way. You don't even smelling no more.

You smell like, he knows blind. Yeah. It's all of our scent together. I know baby D don't stink because I would have been said that. Yeah. I like, baby, you got to wash that ass before you come in here. Like, I'm sorry. I think of friends should do.

Yeah, absolutely. But maybe these smell good. She'd take care of herself. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, but you would say that you were more charming with Lex andrea than you were, say, little brother, right? Well, I'm just trying to get some truth out of you. Love pools.

Love the guys. But, like, you know, Lex Andrea or Poo. Like, come on. No, I'm just asking. That's all. Don't make me do that. I'm not picking, man. I love all our guests, man.

I can't do that, though. No, no. I'm just saying more charmed. We all do. But malls is just significantly different. Rory, like, women come and then you'll just hit an elevator and then seven bottles and wine to get off the elevator. And it's like, yo, I didn't even know we would have.

First one. First one. It's like, yo, I ain't mad. Get the Ziffindale, Rory. I'm not mad. I love a good glass. I want to make this clear. I love a good glass of Zippendale.

Get it. We had asked what, because Lexandraa are very much established now. Yes. They are professionals in their own right. They've TV show, a successful podcast. Love them. Of course they have a rider. And they have a rider.

And they have a writer. I respect. We have a similar rider. So when I got the rider, I was like, I was getting this anyway. Yeah. Oh, this is everything on my. It doesn't matter. Benner, did you send me, our rider? It was wine and tequila. Yeah, that's how Rory moved.

They were drinking that tequila, too. I don't know. See, I think they drink on their show. I can't pod drunk. Yes, you can. You've Patreon drunk before. We've Patreon drunk before, but I don't like it because I start talking. I got to go over here, Peeze, did you clip that out? Can you clip this out of people?

No, no, he's going to make it a clip. That's why I love Baby D because, see, Baby D is still in that phase of podcasting where she's like, fuck, what did I say? Baby D, when you hit the phase of I don't give a fuck what I said, oh, life is beautiful up here. When you know you said something, the niggas is in the mentions having a war and you just at home listening to Sam Cook waiting for the croissants to get nice and toasted, I don't give a fuck what they think about what I.

I leave here with a thousand notes and maybe I'll text Demeris or P's just to like triple check. I wasn't whiling on something. but once it hits like 9.30, 10 p.m., I've forgotten everything that we just said. Yeah, I always forget. That's what I tell you. People were like, yo, when you said, I'm like, I said that. Don't remember. Get to that level, baby. This is beautiful. Wait until you start seeing clips and you have no recollection of that day or that opinion even existing. Have no idea. Like, we talked about that? Exactly. I was that passionate about something I don't remember. And something I don't care about. That's what is really, when you see

clips of yourself online going crazy. The new Pope. Yeah. I didn't even. I don't get it. I don't get it. give a fuck about that? What the fuck am I yelling for? Life is beautiful. Well, yes, I apologize to all the women that were offended by a personal conversation with Lex. I'm so sorry. Yes. Can you apologize to me because the Swifties were in my mentions saying, hey, you fat bitch.

Get your white fucking raggedy ass boss. I'm like, okay, why I got to be a fat bitch? Because he came at Taylor Swift. I wasn't even there. I wouldn't even on a fuck episode. Okay. What was my response when that hit the group chat? What did I say about Taylor Swift?

Yeah. I had no. I had no fucking idea. Yeah. It was like I said something more. You gave a little slick. Shout out to Trey. We had a guest on, um, don't know ball.

Yeah. And, uh, you had to ask him about Taylor Swift being around the chiefs because she's obviously. Pretty sure I complimented her and said when she acquired the franchise. Yeah. But then he was like, that's a compliment. He started saying, no, she's, you know, she's sweet. She's very down to earth. She remembered mine, my name and my sister's name, like after meeting us when we've seen her the next time and da-da-da.

And then I think your response was something to the, effect, oh yeah, you signed the NDA. Like basically saying, like, oh, you can't really say what you want to say about Taylor. So that warrants threatening, leaking my address, murdering my daughter. You have to die. Your entire bloodline has to die now. Because I said something that was probably true. Yes.

That anyone positive, negative, in between probably has to sign an NDA around Taylor Swift. Yes. You must die now. Taylor Swift signs an NDA about her own self. Like, soon as she leaves the out. Secret service shit. But, DeMaris, I went through that shit on my personal page and the Numeroy on one. It was the same person on 15 different.

It was one Swifty. Yeah. It wasn't. I could tell because they were repeating everything with the same account. I was like, oh, this is the same person. They told me to get a job. They told me to get a job. I'm like, why I got to get a job? I wasn't even at work when he said that shit. Like, what you telling me to get a job for? And what? Your job. Right. That's the funnier part. The funniest part is how many times we get called broke. Like, that's my favorite thing of like, that's supposed to be an insult. to me when I'm not. Hey, pop that.

I mean, well, I guess in the scope. I guess so many people, whether it be from fake pages or real pages or from streamers to podcasters, I just think that's the funniest insult because it's like the furthest thing. Yeah, but I think that in the scope of Taylor Swift, I'm very broke. Then the person that DM that, unless, I don't know, they were. Taylor Swift. Steve Jobs' daughter.

Yeah. You're broke too. Gotta have fun with that. And I don't know anyone with a lot of money that would make that many fake pages and defend a celebrity. Yeah, that was when I saw y'all sent to a tweet out. I was like,

no, that's just somebody going crazy. One person. Well, I want no beef with the Swifties. I didn't think that's anything bad. Love the Swifties, love Taylor Swift. Big Swifty. Yeah.

That's all I have on that. Please don't murder my daughter and my family. No, please don't. Happy Mother's Day to all of the mothers. Mother's Day was yesterday. We are recording this on a Monday. So happy Mother's Day to all the great moms out there sending lots of love. and support and prayers to a lot of moms that, you know, going through rough times, things like that.

So shout out to the moms. Did you go see your mom? My mom, let me tell you about my mom. Yeah, I thought I was going to see my mom this weekend. My mom had other plans. My mom is in Mexico. I love it. I like that.

Yeah. So I called her. I was like, hey, you know, I'm thinking I'm good son. I'm going to go down, see moms, you know, do the brunch thing. She said, yeah, I'll be in New York Wednesday I said, perfect, you're coming home Perfect, I don't got to go far I gotta travel

Yeah, nah, just for the day to get my nails and my hair done and then Okay, thinking she's gonna get cute from others All right, mom, no, no, I'm going to Mexico Yeah, shit it aren't you? Love you too, ma'am She ain't even invite you, brunch, in Kabul Mom, I hope you're having fun in Mexico

I haven't spoken to her You know, service be spotty Yeah, yeah. I haven't spoken to her today. I spoke to her yesterday. She said she's chilling by the pool, my aunts and everybody having a good time. They just went down and, you know. Did your sister go? No, my sister didn't go. Okay. She had to work. I'd feel away. If your sister went, I think you should feel the way.

But if it was just like the mom and aunt retreat, I get that. My sister and my mom go away on vacation and didn't call me for money. Life is beautiful. I won. Have a ball. Yeah, I guess that's true. Have a, but what? Y'all wear? It didn't call up. Have a blast. Love you. Call me if you need anything. hopefully you don't need anything. And now you could use that too.

You could be like, ah, you had Mexico money next time I'm gonna ask you for money. Oh, I can't wait to get that off. I love getting that off now, my mom. Yeah. No, we got McDonald's money in the house. We got food in the house, ma'am. We ain't going out to eat.

The shit my mom used to did me with when Big Max was only $2.29. Yeah. We got Mexico house. You got McDonald's money? No, we got food in the house. I can't wait to get that off my mom. No, I really don't have fast food. Fast food money is expensive as fun.

We got a pool right here. Fast food is so expensive now. Like, why? Oh, now, yes. You might as well just get food. But when I pull up the value mill menu from 1998, oh yeah. 96.

You know, I was going to school and I'm asking my mom for money for McDonald's and she gave me the whole rundown on what Harriet Tubman had to go through. I'm just like, I just wanted a Big Mac and some fries. Yeah, those shit was like 96 cents back in the game. Hold on because Damaris is just throwing shots. No, you could, I'm not being funny. This is part of our relationship, Big Brother Lowe's. Yeah, of course.

DeMaris, a Big Mac was not 96 cents. I was not alive when a Big Mac was 96 cents. They didn't have a, I'm thinking because when I was a certain age, we had a dollar menu, so you were a little bit older than me, so I thought it would be like 96 cents. A Big Mac was never on a dollar menu, was it? Oh, it wasn't. Oh, I don't know.

I didn't. No, you can get a McChicken. You can get that bullshit chicken cut. Stop, McChicken's are good. That bullshit chicken color. I was never a chicken, a McChickey guy at McDonald's. You'd rather get the crispy chicken. The crispy chicken was where it's at, the crispy chicken sandwich.

That little dollar Mick, Mick, Mick, chicken, throw that shit out the window. I was so brainwashed. I would eat the McChicken to me. Let me get something real in my stomach and eat a McChicken. Let me get some real food. That's what I used to be a real meal. Like, yo, did you eat today? Nah, not yet.

Like, I got this time for me to eat. What you getting? McDonald's. That's your meal for the thing. And then two McChicons, if you wanted to go crazy. That was when I was going through puberty, I needed to. When I was in high school, they used to do something called the Mick gang bang. That was how you got jumped in.

Yeah, that was something else. That wasn't a part of Ronald. He didn't. He just the part of it's the Mick Chicken with a what. That was the purple guy. Ronald. With a double cheeseburger. Wait, what?

You put the Mick chicken on top of the double cheeseburger. It was called a Mick, oh, in between, the double cheeseburger. Wait, you had to order it and do that yourself. What number was that on? You had to, yeah, you had to order it. That wasn't part of there. Did you just ask and confirm if that was not on the, the, the Mcgangbang was not on the menu. But that's what I'm saying?

Who gave it that name? Was that just, like, locally up in. Well, no, because Pease went to school down in Kansas, and he said he heard of it, too. Peas, they do not have the McGang Bang in Kansas. I'm not rolling with that. I'm not, they never called it the McGaing Bang. I love that you called it local. Like it was like tomatoes in New Jersey.

Like, oh, it's McGang Bang season. Who has to go upstate? Who called it? Who called it? I don't know. I guess it was like a cultural thing of like high school students. That didn't testify boroughs. Well, you were, you're younger.

So this was when we were in like middle school. Or you're older. When we were in middle school, high school. What year was that? 2010? 2009. Yeah, I was, I ain't never heard of no McGang You wasn't eating McDonald's at that time.

2010? Hell yeah, I was. That was fucking McDonald's up in 2010. Mighty wings at that point. The McGang Bang Burger is one of McDonald's most famous secret menu items. Oh, a secret menu. The best way to do it is to simply order a McDouble or McChicken and put it together yourself.

Think back to those old commercials. Some assembly may be required. Prices and participation may vary. That whole time they were talking about the McGangbang. Yo, that is crazy. That was secret code talk for gang bang? Yeah. Land, Sea, and Airburger.

So that's the filet of fish, the chicken sandwich, and beef, like the Big Mac. Yeah. That's just heart disease and stroke waiting to happen. Remember when I was working at the advertising company? Yeah. So we had McDonald's as a client, and for like six months, they put me on the McLopster account. Oh, that's just so ironic. The amount of like Getty images I had to download of like high high res shots of like the McLopster.

And like we would have to like really rent out spaces to shoot the McLopster. There was a McLopster? Yeah. I've never heard of the McLopter. And then at one point, at one point we sent a McLopster van to Maine and it just drove down from Maine to Virginia and did like McLopster pop-ups. Oh my God, that's real. What was the McLopster? I've never, I don't think it ever hit New York City.

Lobster meat, mayo-based sauce, lettuce, and it's served on a toasted bun. It's summer only-old's had lobster rolls. Some of these, typically available in New England states. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a fucking minute. McDonald's had lobster rolls? Yeah, but only in New England, not over here. Yeah. I used to take these like, fuck.

I used to take like these fan-generated photo. of people. Like, we would run social campaigns. Do you know what I would do for a lobster when I used to eat

lobster? You wouldn't want the McLobster row. You don't want no fucking mick lobster. No, I don't do that

because the filet of fish is good. That shit ain't real fish, though. That shit is carp. That shit is not real fucking fish. Baby D.

Said that shit is carp. Nah, baby. You don't do that. The filet of fish is good. Don't we We're not doing that.

When the buns are warm. Yeah, come on. We're not doing that. I'm not pausing warm buns. I love warm buns. Do you always like to open those freeze packages of vacuum-sealed maclopsters at my office? Yo, so you ate a McLopster? No.

I would take them out of the vacuum seal and they would give us instructions on how to, like, heat it up so we could take photos of it. It smelled so fucking bad. Yo, that is great. I never knew McDonald's had a McLopster. It lasted. This was... Like summer 2015, it had to be.

No, somebody, in the comments, somebody got to tell me how to McLaugh, yo, PJ, you know, PJ got to tell me how the McLopster was, man. We need a McLopster review. I never even knew this was a thing. I'm cool, actually. I don't remember how much it cost.

Nah, man, y'all tripping the McLopster might have, they might have did numbers in the one. A single Lopsarrow cost $30 in 2022. The McLopster Row, however, was $3.99. I'm cool. No, it hit nine during inflation. $9 for a McLeopster is hilarious. And first of all, if you're in Maine, New England, et cetera,

why the fuck would you get a McLeopster when you could get lobster? The same reason you get a burger from McDonald's and we live in Manhattan. Some of the greatest burgers in the world, Manhattan. Fair, but like if you're out there, no, that's different. Because a burger is universal everywhere. Like, I may want a quick burger. You have burgers all the time.

Lobster, no matter where you are, is kind of like a special thing, right? So if you're in New England, wouldn't you want to like, I'll save my money so twice a month I can eat real lobster, not run around for a $9 McLobster? I got to try to McLobster. I'm sorry. Were you a McRib guy? I'm sad to say in my younger days, man,

I may have had a McRib or two. That was your rib? That shit was so nasty. That shit was so nasty. I can smell it right now. That shit tastes like a sneaker tongue. A saucy sneaker tongue? Yeah, that shit was just a sneaker tongue.

sauce all over it. That shit was terrible. The McLobster got discontinued in 2017. Damn, I didn't do my job. Damn, Rory, you didn't market it enough, bro. I flooded the streets. Nah, you were supposed to hit the hood with that shit. You're supposed to take that to the hood like, crack.

We started in Maine. Due to rising lobster prices. So it wasn't true, Roy, you did your job as an advertisement. There was not lobster in that. The lobster price did not affect the McLopster. I ain't going to lie, man. I would have definitely tried to McLopsster. They lucky they didn't bring that to Harlem.

Niggas would have been having Niggas would have been smoking duchess eating lobster rolls every night So I should have been outside red lobster On 2 5th just trying to hand to hand To hand to make lobstleckleck. You gotta go hand to hand You gotta go hand to hand

With the McLops down You say I put a red lobster Right on 25th Street That shit is never going out of business I can't judge people Because I was one of those people When I was younger I used to eat this shrimp from Popeyes

No, the Popeye's not a crazy thing Yeah that's not you ain't say nothing crazy But I feel like I don't feel like you should eat anything from a restaurant that don't specialize in that. Like Mighty Wings at McDonald's, right? It's a red flag a little bit. Like ribs at McDonald's, it's a red flag.

But like, why are you eating shrimp at Popeyes? Where that shrimp came from? Cajun. Yeah, like Louisiana. It was like the popcorn shrimp. Yeah. But it's Louisiana themed. That's like a big thing.

Yeah, but like, where's not from? You don't want you put Cajun in front of it. Yeah. Niggas. You can go either way. And then poe boy, you want a poe boy? And then do a super racist commercial for 20 years. Peach won't a poboy.

I know he do. Peace the hell yeah The po-boys Josh, you ever had a po-boy? Josh, you never... Get out. I can't talk in the room with a nigga that never had a po-boy.

Like, what you mean? I never had a po-boy either. You never had a po-boy? No, I live up north and I've never gone down south and was like, you know what I should grab a po-boy? Never. Oh, my God.

You get a po-boy right now. Yeah, we got to get you a po-boy. You got to get a po-boy. What about City Island, right? Isn't it that that thing that they do up in the Bronx or whatever? City Island, yeah, you get a po-boy. They got, though.

I don't know if I want that to be your first poboy, though. Yeah, I feel like I ought to go to Louisiana. Oh, nah, you go to Louisiana. Because City Island is a pobley with a side of violence. Yeah, you may not even get a chance to eat it. Yeah, City Island is a poleboy with a side of a folding chair beside your head, man. You know what I'm saying? It's all good.

City Island is such deception because you get off the bridge and it's like the most beautiful area. I'm like, I cannot believe this is the Bronx. I look at the harbor, the water. Then you get to the end of that street, gang violence. See the three needs? every dominican gang you can dig up you go out there you go to see food city on the wrong night the 30s is in the park a lot having to me yeah you might want to get up out of there just let you know i's yeah when the street lights come on i'm getting right back on yeah you don't want to see the

three needs at see who city trust me trust me when them niggas is there just go to another spot man fuck it how like the people that live there full time have not complained is beyond me oh no they complain. And like the locals? Yeah. You know how all it is to get like a place in City Island? I mean it's generation to generation. Yeah, you can't kid. You're not going to just move to City Island. That don't happen. You know somebody's like I'm moving to City Island. Somebody they know owned something and gave it to them. Like yo, you could take my house for sure. You're not just moving to City Island. That's not happening. Yeah, you got to deal with that and then like possibly a dead body just coming up onto your beach. It's part of it. So good.

That's the allure. Oh, it's murder season. It goes great. the shrimp. It's high tide. Low tide, it smells like shit. And high tide, it smells like dead body. It smells like bodies. It smells like bodies rotting in the water. Yeah. How do we even get on this in time? I have no. Oh, how much a value meal cost now?

Yeah. You might as well just get a po' boy in Louisiana for what that cost now. Do you think the dollar menu is what they like eased us in to deceive us? Because before the dollar menu, I kind of feel like it was like $3 for a combo meal. Then they started moving those items and separating them for a dollar. then you'd get like five things on a dollar menu. It should be seven something. And that pushed the combo shit up to like $12. Whoever came up with that should be like a general in Israel right now.

Because how did you do that to us? You really made fast food cost the same as Applebee's. McDonald's and Dubai is crazy, you know. Really? Oh my God. They had so many different chicken sandwiches. They got pissed in the soda fountain? See?

No, Roy. I can't be normal. They just had so many different. I'm the one that's not normal, right? What goes on in? Dubai, I'm the one that's unknown. Yeah, but that's not everywhere. That goes on right here in Manhattan too.

Right on the corner, actually. Yeah, but it's a little rubbing tug spot you keep popping in front of. They got a shit option. Yeah, but at least there, like you have to be behind a curtain, I think. Yeah. Like they'll turn some music on so no one can hear it. In Dubai, I think it's just like from just out in the open. Yeah.

It comes with your section. You've been to Dubai before? Mm-mm. Dubai is, it's cool. It's just a little, it's turned up, too turned up for me. Really? I'm like more little back shit. One of my favorite YouTubers, shout out to Alia Face, she lives there and, like, she'll vlog, like, her living experience.

And it seems she said it's a really nice place to, like, live. Like, she goes jogging at night. She's like, I could never do this in New York City. I would never feel comfortable doing this. She said, but in Dubai, it's like one of the safest places in the world. Oh, it's definitely one of the safest places for sure. Yeah. I feel like a lot of content creators moved out there.

Yeah, probably. Because I've definitely seen that, like, in my algorithm of all these people just buying houses in Dubai. Probably. Probably some, something tax-related. It's always tax-related. Always. But I never understand, because I've never, like, done the research, but is it super strict or is it not? Like, to some people, it sounds like it's the Wild Wild West, like literally you can do anything, shit on anyone, get a Lamborghini for $10 just for the night.

Then I hear other people like, yo, if you even smoke weed, you're going to jail for life. If you get, I mean, I don't know. Don't let me get the line. I don't know how strict. I'm sure there are very strict rules and laws over there. But just like anywhere else, man, you can find a little pocket, a little coach over there where that shit is readily available, just weed smoking and shit like that. Like, it's like anywhere else.

So I just looked it up. Don't get caught transporting that shit there, though. Yeah. Dubai has been actively attracting digital content creators with its creators, HQ initiative, and Golden Visa program. So the Golden Visa, if you're an eligible creator, they'll give you a 10-year renewable residency permit. And they'll give you, like, they have a.

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Maul, you were saying, what was so crazy about the McDonald's in Dubai? The chicken sandwiches. Okay. It's like seven different types of chicken sandwiches. Got you. Because then the KFC and like Trinidad is supposed to be way better, I heard. I'm pretty sure. I can see that being better. Yeah. Anything better than America.

I mean, shit, they're diluting the tequila now. Which is crazy because the bars and clubs do that already. So now this shit is more stepped on than anything. Yeah, man. You know, it's, listen, drugs, alcohol. This shit is all oregano and bacon soda. It's all the same, man. It's all the same. Once the government got a hand on it, they're going to try to cut it. Yeah, but even, it was what? Osamigos and Don Julio, just the two that we all drink all the fucking time. Diageo, too.

Look at Puff getting his lick back. Mmm. That was part of Puff's plea deal that we don't know about yet. He had to say, he snitched. I'll tell you how they cut it in. I'll tell you where they cutting it at. Frank Luke is going straight to the source. Damn, Diageo, okay.

What does it say? Corn syrup that they put in there? That, I mean, but again, I don't, everything's cut. Like, this doesn't shock me. Yeah, at this point. Like, I don't, what is 100% pure? To me, it's worse than, like, when they put the bottom shelf tequila in the Casamigo bottle. And then I'm like, though, this is not Casamigos.

You're not about to tell me that. But maybe it was the whole time, and I was just having the corn syrup batch. Just to clarify Casamigos and Dalhulio are owned by Diageo. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted the listeners. Yeah, no, that's, yeah. I mean, I don't know.

Was this devastating to you, Demaris? Um Yeah But like at the same time No because I'm not surprised Like to be honest That's not good tequila anyway It's good to us because it's easier

For us to drink because it has sugar in it It's very sugary tequila It's not good quality of tequila You've been to Mexico Yeah That's what they tell you Yeah it's not In Mexico City last year

For my birthday We went to one of those Mescal tequila taste things Like the real shit With the history And the expert And the fucking mountains with the smoky shit

listen that shit tastes like fucking premium gas my chest hurts so much drinking the pure shit like I'm pussy I'll take this version like that mask I was breathing weird for two days

I've never had my chest hurt it's so smoky like I thought I was having an asthma attack when I took a sip and it was like seven lined up you know they have like the beer taste things because you probably would do a mezcal that's why like smoke.

Like it tastes like you smoke like you. Yeah, they actually smoke the drink. Yeah, they actually, you know, light the, what is it,

payload? No, not always. Not always. Mestown. Mestown is smoky because of the way that it's aged. And they legitimately like out there will dig a hole and

it's like smoked out for sure. And we were having that pure shit like. That's like moonshine. Dog. It tasted like a shot of Everclear while I was smoking Reggie at the same time. First time I took a shot of moonshine down south of my uncles. I couldn't feel my feet. I said,

well, you niggas are sitting around drinking this every day. They gave me not even a tiny half of a shot just to taste it. I was like, nah, that shit had you sweating,

worried, anxious, like, no, I can't do that. My dad every year goes to a pig roast in South Carolina

with some of his, like, criminal friends, and he brings back moonshine every year. And every year, I'm like, I'm a like at this,

Tom. That shit's terrible. That shit tastes like gasoline. When I was at the first time, I snuck some from. I think that was the first time I saw like facial hair for the first time. It was right after that shit. Yeah.

Have you guys ever had absinth? Who? Absinth. What is that? I love Absinth. So it's an anise flavored spirit derived from several plants, but like sometimes it don't have like the worm in it. Oh yeah. I've seen that before.

Oh yeah. And it's supposed to make you. Horny. No, hallucinate. Oh yeah, no. Cool. Oh, yeah. I saw that in, um, Euro trip.

Oh, a movie? Yeah. Oh, okay. It's, yeah, it's for white people. Okay. I figure it's a shorty that just passed from that. Yeah, like, why do people want to hallucinate, though? Like, why would you drink something knowing that you're about to start seeing all kinds of shit?

Uh, get in touch with the earth. That's why people take shrooms. Just take your sneakers off and go walking apart. We're getting in touch with the earth, but it's more of a spiritual level. Yeah, it is. Brain waves is different. See the other side? No, I don't want to hallucinate.

Don't get me nothing. You could be hallucinating right now. You just don't know it. That could actually be how the earth really is. Yeah. You didn't see Inception? Yeah. This could be not reality.

Like, where's your token? You don't even know. Yeah, you don't know when your brain produces DMT. You start dreaming. That could be the real world. This could be lack of DMT and now we're hallucinating without, we're actually having withdrawals. And this is what we see. So you don't listen to enough Joe Rogan, bro.

That's the problem. So I'm having the same dream over and over for the last 12 years of podcasting. Yeah. Well, who the fuck? Can somebody wake me to fuck? Take the drugs. Yeah. Third eye.

No, I don't want to hallucinating shit. I can't do hallucinating. When you drank the shroom tea with belly, that was definitely not enough to hallucinate. Did you feel a little different? I definitely felt it. But that was just the, it was like if you smoke some really good weed, like you get that body, it gave you like a body high. But I didn't, I wasn't hallucinating though.

I feel like, I mean, I haven't done acid, but I feel like that'd be too much for you. But a proper shroom trip, I think would elevate you. I think you'd look at the world. differently. Oh yeah, I know. I'm going to do the ayahuasca. Listen. My cousin, shout out to my cousin, D. Matt, he's done, he's done, he's done the ceremony at least three times now. My therapist sent me a resort in Costa Rica for it that, that her and her her husband did that I was looking at. Yeah. But that's like, I had a plan for like 2026 July. Don't talk to me for that entire month. You know what I'm scared to do it? I think I would show

completely changes if I take it. I think my life changes. Yeah. But like I don't know if I show up after that. That's something we become different people. I don't know if I look at this be like, yo, this is evil. This is not a healthy brain should not be doing it. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. We got to talk to the volume that us off to ayahuasca. We might need to. We take it. Let's do it after negotiations. That ass. Yo, you're going to be a completely different person. Like, I'm going to sit here and be a different person. I know that. I, I've seen people that take it and I'm like, they're not with. Like my cousin's still, he's still who he is.

Mm-hmm. But his entire energy and vibe and everything has just completely, completely changed. Like he doesn't, I don't know if he even curses, yells. Like, he's just a completely different person now. That's fire. But yeah, he couldn't be a podcaster doing that. Or you do that as a podcaster and let your audience watch you go through these different stages. Let me let you know something, baby.

Our audience will give a fuck about our. mental health. What they care about? Or anything healthy in general. They want us to make them laugh, make sexually crude jokes, talk shit about celebrities, and talk about our lives. That's what they want. Nah, I think it's a little more than that. I think they take that, would it? But I think it's more than that. I mean, I want to do it regardless. Like, if it ruins this career, then that's what that's what the ayahuasca one is. Elevate to the next one. Elevate to the next one. Who am I to stop with the ayahuasca ones? What would really be interesting is if one of us takes it. Just one? Just one of us takes it.

It's just you talking and then just me just like Yeah Let me just sit here Let me just sit there analyze you Like it just break down Like help you see what you're going through Yeah I think that would be dope

We should do an episode one day Where one of us is our shrooms And the audience doesn't know And they try to guess Or like one of us is drunk And the audience doesn't know And they try to guess That one time I took that weed gummy

Yeah And no one knew They said they liked that episode When was that? Remember he took that gummy That they gave us when we were doing an ad. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Yes. That one was rough. Those scummies were good, actually, though. They were good. It gave me a nice vibe. I should take those whenever we had to get on a flight. The only thing that actually has me scared with the eyewascus thing is, like, you just get a bucket. Yeah.

Like, throw up all your emotions. You're just throwing up and shitting wherever the fuck. Yeah. You go. Like a rabbit. She's like, yeah, you get like a little barn. Like a little bunny rabbit. Yeah, you just got to like shit right there and throw up.

I'm like, where you sleep? Like, wherever you lay. Wherever you want to lay in. Yeah, I don't want no shit like that. But she also said that like any advice she had like drinking, she said she smoked weed a lot. The moment the ceremony was over, like, because it's a whole week, it's a couple days.

Yeah. So I never even had a single urge to even look at weed or alcohol. Really? Not even a tiny bit, yeah. Oh, okay. So. Who goes there? Oh, sorry.

Are you? It's the light. Yo, y'all are tripping this episode. Somebody didn't get up the elevator? Just the light. I think it's a banner probably. Oh. Oh, scotch.

Okay. Oh, okay. We have guests in the office guys. Yeah. Can't even have scotch around me. Is your name scotch? You're like Denzel in flight. I'm drunk right now.

I'm drunk right now. Oh, man. The 2025 BT Award nomination, are in. You do not care. I do care. That's one of the few awards, so I think that we still support is the BET Awards. But the nominations are in Al-Madilla.

But how am I read? Oh, okay, this is nominations. Alamedia, some sexy songs for you, Drake and Party Next Door, 11-11 Deluxe, Chris Brown, Alligator, Bites Never Hill, Dochi, Cowboy Carter, Beyonce, Glorious Gloria Gia Next, Kendrick Lamar. Hurry up tomorrow, the weekend, and we don't trust you, future in Metro Boom. That's a lot. That's a tough category.

That's a lot of like music and. They should have cut that down. Yeah, that's like everybody in one category. Who do you have? Al-Anse, do you think they give it to Beyonce? If she agrees to show up. I will give it to Beyonce, but she's not going to show up so they're not going to give it to her. But I would give it to.

Chris Brown? That 11-11 album is dope. It is. But he's on tour. Kendrick's on tour. Yes, I don't know. Dochi? I can see Kendrick going to the BT.

awards with the year that he's had. But with his schedule with the stadium, when is this actually film? The BT Awards, I feel like, is in July. June is when they shoot and they come out after. But I mean, yeah, if it works with a schedule, but either way, I do think Kendrick and GNX is going to clean up in every category.

But, yeah, I think that's actually great. Maybe music doesn't suck because that's a great fucking category if we're debating anyone could actually win this besides the weekend and I think it'd be fine. I'm sorry. You couldn't have to say, you could have just say anybody could win this. You didn't have to say, hurry up tomorrow.

It's cool, but compared to we don't trust you, G&X, Cowboy Carter, Alligator Bites, 1111 Deluxe and some sexy songs for you. No, it doesn't compare. Okay, so we don't trust you hurry up tomorrow. We don't trust you and hurry up tomorrow are not going to win. I don't think Glorilla would win either. just because of what is up there,

not because that album isn't good. Out of all of those albums, she had one of my favorites. Didn't all of these albums pretty much come out last year? Yeah. Yeah, if it's whatever in the cycle, whatever dates they pick for everything.

Yeah, because some sexy songs for you just came out, what, February? Yeah. Yeah, it's probably from... Cowboy Carter came out when? Cowboy Carter came out March, too. Or April, one of them. Yeah, March or April.

I say either Beyonce or... Kendrick of last year though i think uh drake and party umg has too many ties still viacom and b eg even though i think bt's separated from biocom but yeah too many ties i don't think drake's gonna win a thing that category stack biontie or kendrick i'm going there best female rmb pop artist aure lennox iara star aira star coco jones kalani money long summer walker sisa and victoria suza will win Monet. Yeah, Sizz I'll probably get that.

Best male R&B pop artists, Bruno Mars, Chris Brown, Drake Friday, Leon Thomas, Teddy Swims, The Weekend, and Usher. Leon or Chris Brown will win.

Yeah. I think Leon should win, but yeah, I'm going either Leon or Chris. I mean, listen, Teddy is amazing, but is that allowed?

Yeah, Justin Timberlake don't want a couple of BT awards. Okay. In-s-M-N-N-H. Eminem you. Yeah, but I have two BETT awards in my house and I feel weird. Teddy Swims is, I guess he's R&B. Yeah, he's definitely Army.

Yeah. I mean, it went pop. Yeah, it's pop stuff, but it means there. But I mean, outside of that, we don't have to go through everything. Best collaboration, maybe, would be the only other category that I think is noteworthy. 30 for 30, Cizza and Kendrick, Alter Ego, Dochi, and J.T. Are you even real? Teddy Swims and Givion, which is fucking incredible. Beckham D. Bills,

kind of a whole bunch of people. Bless Lowellane, Neon Thug, like that, Future Metro Boom and Kendrick, Luther, Sticky with Tyler and Glorilla, sexy red, timeless, The Weekend and Playboy Cardi. Luther is going to win that, but Sticky is a strong contender, too.

If they get to perform that record, I think it wins. And I could see Tyler doing the Beatty Awards. I could see Tyler doing it. What song is Sticky? It's like a marching band joint That record is crazy Sticky sticky sticky

Un-y-sticky Un-li-ass bitch Step inside We pop and shit You don't remember What Tyler's album came out It was like the main Like single

Like the big one There's too much shit I'll hear to listen to man You heard the record You would know exactly I'm forgetting all of this shit Man y'all know I'm terrible with titles

But once I hear the song I'm like okay You definitely know Which joint that is Okay But I mean Hey we always support The BET Awards here

I look forward to it Y'all trying to go What's up? Um, I don't know. To the actual awards? If there's a red carpet. If we're working. I hate, though.

I hate award shows. Like actually being in there sitting there watching the production. It's, oh, man. It's just a long sitting there, a lot of shit over and over. Like, eh. Wait, like, if they fuck some shit up, they got to do it like over? Yeah. It's not live.

That's crazy. So, yeah, like, if somebody come out and stumble or fall or something, you know, running from the top. Yeah. Oh my God I never thought about that Yeah I mean the ones that are live Or delayed they don't do that

But you also can't move until Like a possible commercial break But if it's only a 30 second one Then you can't go Like yes it's not fun That's why people That's why people are pissed off Not when they lose

It's like why did I sit here The fuck was the point of coming out here Like I did all this to lose It's good for your brand Like you need to be You need to be seen And in the place and stuff like that. Oh, speaking of which, I'm signing up for acting classes. Sorry. I'm signing up for acting

classes. Do you want to come with me? When are they? Um, there's it like improv or like acting? It's going to be acting classes. Okay. Yes, I mean info. I might be down. Me or Rory want to be actors, mall. Welcome to the club. Iawaska could get us there. Oh, definitely. No, we wouldn't want to be in Hollywood off the ayahuasca. We will see all the evil people. Oh, is ayahuasca really Hollywood? Mm. See? Not in time. That's not even, you know. It's not even registering. I feel like after the ayahuasca, I could like play the remake of Sean Penn, I Am Sam. I think after Ayahuasca, I would smoke that role.

Like if I really dug deep. I was thinking of also like you eating Uber grape. You'd be like an amazing Brad Pitt and meet Joe Black. I think that's like that would be your looking. I think that role, I think that's Bade for you off the ayahuasca. I was going to be a fucked up question because I haven't seen I Am Sam since it probably came out. a kid. I remember him having a daughter and screaming about pancakes. How did he get a daughter? Oh, you know how he got a daughter. No, I don't. I really don't remember the movie like that. I was a

child when it came out. I was really young. I just remember a scene about screaming about pancakes and his daughter was sitting across from him. And then I got older. I was like, how do you get a daughter? Do I have the plot right? I'm really asking. Oh, so her. I guess he, so that wasn't his daughter. It's probably a bad answer. That's going to make me look like a dick, but it wasn't his daughter. I think, oh, no, it really was his daughter. Lucy.

Why are you laughing? I'm not laughing. All right, my bad. I'm sorry. No, Lucy in Dakota Fadding plater. Yes, that was Dakota Fadding. So, how did Lucy get in the picture? He fucked her mother.

She was a homeless woman. No, no, I know how babies are maids. No, well, it was a homeless woman. and she abandoned her. I've never seen the movie. What's so funny? Oh. I didn't know that he was.

That's why I'm laughing because I know DeMaris don't know. She don't know the movie. So she just reading it. Oh, I didn't know. I'm sorry. Oh, shit. Holy shit. It was just the pure innocence of Jamar's talking.

I'm like, well, no, he fucked a homeless woman. has no idea about Sam. Yeah. Okay. That didn't make it any better, by the way. Yeah, we still don't know. Well, it says he's well adjusted. It has a supportive group of friends with disabilities as well.

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I'm going to die. Open your free IHAR radio app. Search the Cito Show. And listen now. I knew DeMaris had no idea what that movie was about. Oh, I really did. I've never seen it before. I'm just like now I have to watch it

I feel bad I want to like get context he seems like a nice guy is it a yeah that movie was like legendary no it's a classic movie I just really have not seen it

since I was a kid so I don't remember I don't feel like Dakota Fanning and get her flowers Dakota Fanon had been acting her ass off since like a shit but I will end up watching I am Sims just so that

I know exactly what you guys are laughing at y'all are terrible people but we're not laughing at anything I don't remember the plot. I just remember that one scene. And I know it's talked about as a classic. That's all I was getting at. If you had a dream role, like if you could think of a role that like you've seen someone

act before and you would like to be that good and act in that kind of role, what would it be? That's a good question. Mine would be Joker. Joker in the Dark Night. If I could embody a role like that, like embody it like that. But that's a very, very high goal. Okay, so if you went that route, because I agree with you, Joker would be just any type of villain that's played with like sickness. Yeah, I'm with you on that all the way.

I'll go the emotional route. Jim Carrey in a heartless spotted, whatever the fuck. Heartless Mind of the Spotted, whatever. Classic movie. Like it would. Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind is. There we go. Classic movie.

Love that. And like, you know, you just got to look sad on the Long Island Railroad. I've done that a million times. Like, I could definitely. And, like, I've definitely wanted to get the process where you could just take somebody out of your brain forever. Like, I've been there. And now that there's the technology in this movie, like, what? I don't need to act.

Maul, would you ever act? Would you ever act? Yeah. I act every day. I know. But I mean, like, for real, like, you know, like, really act. Yeah. Yeah, I was talking to, shout out to Omar Epps.

I've been talking to him a lot about getting into acting, things like that. I thought about it. I think you should take classes. Not with us. We know you don't want to do shit with us, but I think you should take classes. We're just going to just go right past that. Yeah, I've just been talking to Omar Epps about getting into acting. He been told him he was just casually.

I know he listens to the show. I've DMed with him as well, but I just don't casually be like, yeah, you know, I got a little acting mentor right. like now. Omar Epps. I'm thinking about it. I don't really know. I can't call him acting mental

because I'm not acting yet. But he is somebody that I speak to about getting into it though. He would be a great person to learn from. Oh, no. 100,000% one of my favorite actors for sure. And just a solid, solid individual. Shout out to Omar.

What would be your first rule? I feel like out the gate you would have to not go with like Kane or Gangvanger 3. Like you would have to do something that would get you out of being type I would definitely want to be in a movie that's like kind of, I guess, not acting because I could see myself really being in that type of situation, like high school, New York, having friends, getting into a little bullshit in the streets. Like, that's acting, but it's not because I could really see that. Like, I probably live that exact.

Like, you are still from. Exactly. Well, I love you, like a lot. I want to preface with that. You think you could play a high schooler? Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.

I mean, when you do go look at like the credits for high school movies, they do end up being like 38. Look at TI. Listen. T.I. was old as fucking ATO. Absolutely. Well, when I was- That does usually happen. When I was looking it up, it says that you're supposed to have an acting age range of five years, like from one age to one age and it should be five years in between.

But your real age should be somewhere in there. So I was trying to figure out like what age I can play, but I have to include. 31 in those years. So I'm like, okay, I feel like I could do 27 to 32. I feel like I could get 27 to 32 off. Because I don't think I could do 30 to 35. I don't think I could get off being 35 years old. I could definitely play.

You can, depending on the aesthetic. Yeah, the hair and makeup. Yeah, absolutely. If I shave my beard and shave most of my hair on my head, then you would be Remy and Higher Learning. That too. But I'm really trying to get that Channing Tatum role and coach Carter.

I could definitely get that role. Yeah. Because he didn't say anything really at all. No. He just sat there. He was just a rebounder. He just put, he just cut the sleeve off his t-shirt and put it on his head,

which I did in high school for football. I could play that role. High school movies that have like basketball in it are so funny to watch. It's like, yo, these actors cannot play basketball at all. Like, y'all look crazy trying to act like y'all playing basketball. And I could never act like I would ask Ashanti

to get an abortion. I wouldn't even know how to act yeah How do you even pull that up What was your name of that actor? He deserves a fucking award Looking at Shanti dead in her face He'd be like nah get rid of that It's crazy

She had the baby fat coat on Like come on you know the baby fat coat That's the number one Abortion Clinic coat like this It hides a lot Yeah you know When they come out the clinic With that baby fat coat on

It's like yeah You know she got ready But we got to go pick up The prescription at CVS So we're gonna walk over there Real quick You know that route right there It's right down the block

You know how that shit Look at Baby D baby did you had a baby fat coat on coming out the clinic yeah no I did not get pregnant in high school but you're funny as shit that wasn't the number one coat it was it was if a girl had a baby fat coat on she either got an abortion or she's hiding her pregnancy or she's on her way to go have sex where she will get pregnant exactly either all it's just a fertile coat it comes with it comes with the baby bump it could tip out.

No, the inside of the baby fat coat. If you look at the panel, it comes with actual baby names. And they're all Camora. And alphabetical order. Camora, Paris. Don't do that. Yo. Melody, for sure.

London. A bunch of melodies have been killed in a baby fat coat. Baby D definitely were all paid pastries when she was. Oh, for sure. Oh, I loves pastries. You had, I was joking. I was a really young. I had a pair of pastries.

Nah, yo, you can't use pastry. My nigga I was like 10 years old when pastries dropped. They were colorful sneakers. You know, my parents bought them for me. I was like 10 years old when pastries got. I keep forgetting the age. Yeah, I'm young. And you all forget, I mean this respectfully.

Damaris's ghetto as fuck. I don't know if you know. Oh, no, I know. I know exactly how ghetto she is. Yeah. Yeah. How's it well? Yeah.

Definitely, definitely cartoon coat. I had the cartoon coat getter. I was cartoon coat ghetto. Ooh. The Skittles jacket? Yeah. I ran my grace. Now Tweedberg.

Tweeter. Any time you've seen a boy wearing a, like a Tweetybird or Eminem jacket, he bite. He biked the shit out. First of all, don't do that because... He'll bite the shit out you. Because your burrow ran the fucking cookie monster and Elmo

shirt hat, collab into the fucking ground. They was cutting niggas. You see it now. Hiding a razor under the Elmo? Walking down third ab and getting cut by somebody in a cookie monster shirt. We lived through some nasty errors, man. Remember when they tried to Japanese symbol us with the, with the, with the baseball hats.

Of course. Nasty time. I was fly, though. The Yankees, that's not the Yankees. They don't wear those. Derrick Cheetah never played in that. No, it was when, um, uh, Matsui came. That's what he was that when they did it.

Yeah. No way. It wasn't each. It was, when Matt Sui came, play right field. No, we have to. We have to look that up. Because you might be right. Now that I don't take about it.

And that's race. Because I was in high school and that, yeah, that was definitely that era. Yeah. That was definitely that. Yeah. The MLB is crazy for that campaign. the Japanese symbol hats because Matsui got one

Ichiro got a crazy contract that was like the time when the you know were they off from Japan or China Matt Sui was Japanese I don't want to get that wrong Matt Sui was definitely Japanese his nickname was Godzilla right

yeah but we're so oh my god that's racist over here that anyone that's Asian would be like no you don't know how racist it is baby I think they introed him at the stadium he came out of Godzilla like he might have walked out of Godzilla's stomach or some crazy shit like that.

Like that's how like that's how deaf tone deaf the Yankees are. Stombrunner didn't give a fuck. Once he signed that check, you're going to walk out of the Godzilla. Right on to Jerome Avenue. We don't give a fuck. And to place it on the fucking train. Absolutely. What?

Once you signed that deal, it's over. I own you now. And what's funny is he looked 45 and played like he was 21. Matuio? Yeah. Oh, he was a problem. He was a beast. How do we even get on that?

Yeah, we just, we app and we haven't had a chance to catch up with each other. we've been having back to back to back guests, which we love, but it doesn't give us time to talk about the dumb shit that we talk about because we don't want to embarrass ourselves in front of company. Yeah, thinking about that mescal just having flashbacks, top one worst hangover I ever had, Azad and Brick got me a massage for my birthday the next day. And I didn't want to cancel. I was like, people don't get me things. This would be nice. I laid on the bathroom floor of the massage place, threw up everywhere, then got onto the massage table in the other room. five minutes in, I said, can I get up and lay on the floor, please? And laid in the fetal position for the whole hour massage. I was like, you just turn the air on and close the door. Wow.

How do y'all drink like that? I don't, he was wilding. I didn't know what I was, I didn't know what I was, I didn't know how. I was here. Oh, okay, yeah. We was drinking the pure shit. That was the worst hangover ever had my life. Yeah.

Like, it took like three or four days just to like get back to zero. I'm getting Rory drunk with me next month. I want to see how he, how he handled. was that. Why next month? What's the next month? We have an event to go to, but he's going to be with me. Oh, okay. But we got to record the next day. We're going to be here the next day, so you're going to see us. Now I know they're cutting the dope. I mean, it might be sober at that point. But they're not, to clarify that, they're not cutting it with. They're just not using pure agave. They're using cane sugar instead.

It's still the same amount of alcohol. It's just not as good for you. It's like some juice, some pulp. It's all this. We got voicemails. you've got mail all right well this episode of voicemails today is being sponsored by row sparks rory yes sir Roe will help you grow listen what man it will

especially at the 35 now yeah you need it need a little when your shoulders start hurting get a little lead in the pencil it's all connected there you go everything play the voicemail what up pod crew what up peach

um love which y'all have been doing man y'all have really been pye and y'all's asses off as of the late And I always think y'all pod y'all's asses off, but I'd be on Reddit sometimes. But, hey, so on Patreon, y'all were talking about saying, hey, this is all your dick. And then Maul said, somebody going to laugh at that afterwards. And it made me start thinking, like, I'm in a five-year relationship. So when me and my girl have, you know, get down to business and we, like, something funny happens or we say something that's outlandish, we kind of, you know,

No, laugh in the moment and just keep going. But I think we all know it's a little different if it's a one-night stand. So I was asking y'all, what are some of those embarrassing type sex moments that maybe you've experienced or heard about that kind of would have been different in a relationship setting? Like even like the quick fart or whatever, that's like the simple shit. I'm talking about some wild shit. Like the chick screaming where the whole apartment complex can hear it for the whole. night or whatever. I'm just trying to try to see which all are on and

Damaris chill out with the mysteriousness for this one. Yeah, he wanted to hear you, he want to hear your story, baby Dee. Yeah. Is that cheating? Want to hear somebody. Him asking Baby Dee for her sex stories while he's in a five-year relationship? That might be cheating. Nah, that's not cheating. That's cheating. Oh, no, voicemail? That's crazy.

Nah, I'm cheating. Askin us isn't cheating, but that's cheating. Well, first of all, if you take, if you take the row, there's nothing to laugh at. Yeah. We're getting down to business. Nobody's going to be giggling. No. Business time.

Nothing funny. Right. But that said. I mean, I told the story a long time ago, so I guess I can tell it again. But I told this like 2021 when I had a threesome and then one of the girls blew up my bathroom the next morning. Oh, yeah. For the point that, like, I had to leave the master bedroom. Yeah.

Like me and the other girl. Yeah. That's when we started bonding. Yeah. About how she. That's when she got worried in the threesome of like, yo, if you guys go off and do something else, fucked up. Yeah.

Like, yeah, well, you shouldn't have blown up the fucking bathroom. We can't breathe. We can't. Got to get out of it.

Just stink caboose. Yeah, we've eaten fucking egg of waffles out of your. Stink caboose. Your caboose stinks. So, yeah,

that was embarrassing on the other end. Or I'm more funny. A funny moment I had, and it was the first time me and this girl had sex. Her, um,

was it IUD? Yeah. It came out. Nice. Remember. You go big dig Daryl. we didn't know, we didn't know.

Here we go with this shit. Go ahead, Mom. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, my bad. I'm just telling you a real story. Okay, go ahead. So she couldn't feel it. So literally, this is the first time we had hung out, hooked up that night.

Like, she's laying on the bed, like legs all the way back. Like, I'm like two fingers inside her vagina trying to find it. Because she's like, yo, like, I have an IUD. Like, I can't feel it. We shaking the sheets. We look at it. I'm talking about everywhere. What if it hits you?

in the face after you took the show. I mean, so be it. But she finally, she went in the shower and she was in the shower and she was like, you know, she was standing there. She was watching. She felt something. So she's like, she squat down and literally like fell out. She was like, y'all found it.

Like she just yelled. I found it from the shower. And I was like, we didn't fuck in the shower. She was like, it literally just fell out. Did you put it back in? Me? Yeah. I went to sleep.

You know, you're not really qualified. He's not really qualified. You're not going to sleep. But you're calling him Big Dick Daryl. The IUD is that far up. What's the third? thing that you can like really feel with your fingers? That's like probably like a period disc or something like that.

Isn't there like some birth control shit? I remember in high school fingering a girl and touching that and I was like, whoa, what's this? No, I think he's talking about the sponge that you used to put the spermicide on that they used to slide up inside you. Remember spermicide? Did it go anywhere? Yeah, tropical fantasy.

It was in every store. They had fruit punch. No, because I felt like that wasn't a thing By the time I started having sex But I read about it in stuff in health class Like spermicide was like a thing Yeah, that's what niggas in the 90s thought Was gonna stop them from getting AIDS

Hold on I need to know the thinking of how that That's stopping AIDS People were stupid Should you just buy it at CBS? It was like, yo look it got spermicide in it That shit kills everything Yeah, I

Yeah, my favorite myth when we were younger was when semen hits air, it's dead. That's not true. That's not true at all. Like, nah, nah, pulled out, it was on, but like, it hit the air and, like, they become

fucking scientists. That's true. And when it hits oxygen, it's no longer, that's not true. Rory, that's true. I'm telling you it's not true. A doctor told me that shit and thought it was the funniest thing in the world. Sperm dies quickly when exposed to air.

Typically dies when it hits. It says it can live for up to 30 minutes once outside the body. 30 minutes. That's a long as time. That's 30 minutes too long for that one night stand. Yeah, you got to go let that shit drip out. Did y'all know that plan B's don't work when you ovulating? Did y'all know that?

No. Now you know. I just thought I'd tell you that. Plan Bs don't work. If the egg already dropped, baby ain't nothing you could do. The purpose of a plan B is to delay the egg dropping. So that delays the sperm getting to the egg. tariffs on yeah so if the if the didn't have pre-check that's all if the if the egg has

already come out and you get nutted in you ass out no matter when you take the plan you could take that shit right after the nut hit you and it doesn't matter I mean hypothetically if I ever bought plan B's for women I've never they've never been like chill I'm ovulating save your 50 bucks I've never heard that well most women also don't know that my friend found that out the hard way and I mean if she said that I'd be like chill the nut hit the air. You good. You could? I had the windows open.

The fan was oscillating. Yo. I got a humidifier. So much air. Sperm cannot survive in my room. A humidifier is fucking killing me. I got a humidifier, air friar. Like, whatever we want.

Yeah, like spread them beef curtains. I'm going to take the fan and just. That's the problem. You don't let it air out. You got to let that pussy air out after you finish. That's the problem. A lot of y'all just close your legs and just throw in. Nah,

keep that shit spread. Let the air hit that thing. You got to run a herb and run to the bathroom and squeeze with all your mic, get all that shit out of there. Yeah, she'll be walking like penguin. You cool? What is with this episode?

This episode is so fucking off the rails. Because this episode of voicemails is bought to you by Rose Foxx. That's Roe will help you grow. You put it right into your tongue, let it dissolve. And then you get to business. It is what it is. It's like in Bid setting a screen, baby, it's time to shoot. Just to make it clear, when Roe enters your body, it does not kill Siemens.

It does not kill Seaman. Like we are, let's be very clear about that. Roe Sparks will not stop you from getting pregnant. Very, very clear. You mix your Roe with air. Yeah, it's not going to stop him getting pregnant, man. We got another voice bill? I mean, do we not have anything embarrassing?

I don't know, nothing too quick. Baby D. This is Dee from Jersey. I was actually the guy that gave, Roy the car that got him out of a few tickets in a towed car. Oh, my guy. I'm glad I answered the phone that day. But this speaks to my profession.

I have one question. I'll give you a little backstory, not too deep. I can't stay in one of these motherfuckers that I work with. So I make sure that since we share the same car, I do things to kind of get back at them without really, you know, stirring the pot too much. So I'll do things. I'll leave the car on E or I'll turn the road. radio up, like as loud as it can go before I turn the car off. So when they turn that shit on, it scares the fuck out of them. It just gives me a little bit more peace in my life. My question is,

what is your favorite ways to be petty against somebody? You know, maybe not somebody that you actually want to do harm to, but you want to get them back for whatever they did that wrong due. I love the pot. I've been to both New York shows outside of the musical one and the Philly show as well. Keep going, guys. No, thank you. Appreciate that, man. Thank you for those cards.

Yes, for sure. They have helped me. I think it's funny that they actually called him. That must have been when I had a suspended license and a expired registration going into the Holland Town. Yeah, he was about to go right to the motherfucking courthouse. 100%. Yeah.

Yeah, I had two of them. Cops, like, it was just pulling that fucking hotel and don't get back in that fucking car. There you go. I was like, God, I love being white. Yes, sir. Love being white. and being on rose parks. I was bricked up in the car.

And the cop didn't want me to step out of the car. All right. So what was this question? What's your favorite way to be petty? I'm not really naturally a petty person, but I feel like those are the most petty. Like when you push someone that's not petty to go be petty, they're going to be petty or than the petty people.

Yeah. Made sense in my head. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a petty. I wouldn't say petty. I don't really get into the petty energy with somebody. I think that if I feel like it's there at that point,

where I got to stop being petty, we probably are not cool. Yeah. So I just like, I'm just, I just get very distant. But I'm not, I can't think of anything petty I would do to somebody. Like, I don't, I don't have that petty energy. That's, yeah, that's energy for like, I got to care about you to be petty towards you. Like, I'm petty with, like, my sisters or, like, my significant other one, they pissing me off. But, like, a strength, like, somebody, I don't fuck with that.

I'm not going to give you that energy. Because I know that karma going to come back and hit you very quickly. It always happens. And then I'll just laugh when that happens. I was also funny though that you're petty to the people you love but it's innocent petty

it's not like harmful petty Like it's like It ain't gonna disrupt your life Yeah I start opening my car My own car doors And taking my phone off the Bluetooth and shit like if a man makes me mad Like shit like that

Like stupid innocent Like you left the toilet seat up Then I'm gonna do some stupid shit You know what I'm saying Like just dumb shit like that When you live with somebody Or like with my little sister She steals a piece of my clothing

When I was younger I was stealing When I was still one back Like little petty shit But like to really really be petty And put people in upward An adult, yeah. Yeah, that's a little, I don't have, I can't, I really don't even have that, like, I don't care enough, I think, to be petty to somebody.

Yeah. Like, if I feel like, yo, yeah, I got to do some petty to this person. Like, I don't like this person. If I don't like you, I just don't, I don't rock with you. We're not going to be around each other like that. But I don't have that petty energy. I can't think I'm actually taking my brain and be like, yeah, let me think of something to do to get back at this.

I just, I can't do that. Yeah. And that's more revenge than I think. I guess you can be petty in revenge, but. Yeah. Not all revenge is petty. Right. So, I don't know.

I mean, if the opportunity, if the ayahuasca brings that energy to me and I have the opportunity to be petty, I might think about it. But I'm not going out my way to be petty. And also, like, I enjoy watching people not have me in their life

and just watching what happens. Yeah. That's the pettiness that I feel. Which sounds arrogant. I'm not saying in that type of way. No, I get what you mean. But, like, all right, just continue to be yourself.

Yeah. I won't interrupt you. Yeah, yeah, be who you are. Yeah. Be your best self. See the difference. Exactly. That's really all.

But, you know. Oh, man. This was a great episode. I feel like it went by so fast. Yeah, I had a lot of fun with you. If I do want to be petty to her, I won't take that row. And she'll just get, she'll get regular Rory dick. Yeah, you don't want to do that.

Give a little sparks. You don't want that. Bring a little spark into the bedroom. Who puts the row in Rory? Roe Sparks does. Ro Sparks does. All right. Well, good talking to you, people.

I guess we'll see each other. a couple days, right? Yeah, Monday. We're about to take pictures with each other and pretend we like you. Yeah, we got new merch coming. New merch available soon. We'll have a date for you guys,

a bunch of new pieces. We're about to do a photo shoot, which I hate because I don't know what to do in photos. So you'll probably just get a stoic face of me wearing the merch, but, you know. You're going to get pictures of me in this and then go buy this.

Yeah, you'll see me do, get one of these. Maybe I'll have one of these. Ooh, there go right there. Yeah. I'm going to buy that hoodie. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. He blessed.

I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, the Cliver Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be

heard but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the Aval. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling. up. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On the Ceno Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trail, talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances.

entire season two is now available to Bench, featuring powerful conversation with the guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic. Without this group, I'm going to die. Listen to the Cino's show on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast.

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