New Rory & MAL - Episode 372 | Ratcast

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

It was a busy weekend for the pod so let's get right to it. Rory was able to clear up a misunderstanding with Cardi B (30:40). Mal decided to take Demaris to Homie Court for throwing him under the bus... on Twitter (40:06). We all agree that Joey Bad@$$ is cleaning up Ray Vaughn, Daylt, and the whole west coast (1:14:16). Plus, Rory sets the west coast straight about the perceived "hate" from the east coast, and why last year really belonged to Kendrick and Kendrick only (1:46:50). #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:15 And we are back. New Rory and Mall, sponsored by Boost Mobile. What a weekend. I almost cursed. Thank God I didn't. Look at the restraint. Look at the restraint in my older age. Can't start the weekend, Kurt.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You can't start the week. It's monetized. Yeah, no, but like in a Wolf of Wall Street. Like get us all excited. It's a great. It's a good time to be here, man. Great time to be here. What a.
Starting point is 00:02:35 weekend, the Knicks are officially the greatest dynasty in NBA history. It's official. I mean, I get it. Lakers, Celtics, you guys did some things in the last ton of year. But the Knicks made it to the Easter conference finals. We are the greatest dynasty of my lifetime. Yes. I mean.
Starting point is 00:02:55 No, no, joy. So go ahead. Keep going, man. Because you're not going to get this again. Not in our lifetime. So you just got to keep going. I know the Democrats are looking for a candidate. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I think Jalen Brunson is probably the best pick at this point. Absolutely. Definitely can be mayor. What can't he do? No, he can be mayor at this point. At this point, I mean, he hangs out probably just as much as the mayor now. He hands out less than that. Yeah, he actually has a job. Matter of fact, Mayor Adam should look at his work ethic.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah, Jalen Brunson actually has a job that he does. The mayor of New York. He serves New York City. He serves New York City on a real level. The actual voting, the guy they voted for, not so much. He's in DR at a hookah lounge. Every time you look up, I don't know what he's knowing. I have never seen Josh Hart smokeooker with French Montana.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Never. Not once in my life. Never seen jail. Jaylon Brunton doesn't even smoke. He doesn't even smoke. So I'm with you. We need to vote. When Jalen is done doing what he's doing on 30, 32nd Street, we need to talk about what he can do in the office.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And I mean, we don't have to get like writing the sports right away, but this is beyond sports. This is just a New York City thing. Yeah. This is incredible. City feels very connected, very alive, very together right now. Yeah. And I mean, shit, what did we win by? We started taking it easy on them.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I think it was like 31, 30, something like that? Man, if the Celtics had their full roster, we still cleaning them up. I mean, listen, it doesn't matter, man. The Knicks was hurt last year, Brunton got hurt. The year before that, Julius was heard. It doesn't matter. The Knicks will take it however they can get it. Pacers, what, like, I'm not even a Kappa for this series.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Fuck Indiana. Yeah. Indiana University. Everything that's due with Indiana. I don't even fuck with it. We not with it. I'm not a new for the week. I'm calling it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I know it's a bold prediction. Nixon won. I like it. Very bold. Very bold. I like it. Let's see how it plays out. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:39 See how it plays out. Yeah, we got to see how it plays out. But congratulations to the Knicks and all of the Knicks fans. It's been a long time since the city has been able to, you know, have this type of energy. The interesting part is, though, as you look around the four-manent teams in the playoffs, the Knicks' DNA is on every team pretty much. except for Indiana, I think. Indiana doesn't have any former Knicks, do they?
Starting point is 00:05:04 Obie Topping, okay, Obie, former Nick. Timor Wood, and Obie kind of smoked us last year. Yeah, DeVincenzo and Julius. Obie kind of went off last year. Hardinstein with O KC. Yeah, man, the Knicks' DNA. Either way, it's going to be. Tim's DNA is all over this thing.
Starting point is 00:05:24 That's all I'm saying. Like, they like to give Tim shit. You know, he runs his players into the ground. But listen, man, the last four teams in the conference, finals, the Knicks DNA is heavy, so it's going to be interesting to watch. What's Tibbs back? He's, what's his background? Because he's definitely like a Russian Jewish mobster from Brighton Beach. Like keeping the starters in that long. Up 30? Like how you still look salty and you up 30. Yeah. Yeah, no. He's just glaring at the
Starting point is 00:05:47 other side. Like job not done. Job, like Kobe said, job not done. Tibbs don't care if we up 30. He's seen some things from that sideline. Tibs has seen his teams blow 20 point leads. He's not. He's like, listen, man, we knock him right there. the door to Eastern Conference Finals. I'm not taking my foot off the gas, but congratulations to the Knicks and making the first Eastern Conference Finals since 1999. That's crazy to even think about it like that. I thought Mello got there at least once.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Mello never made it out of the first round. Man, that's crazy. Wow. Yeah, that's tough. But congrats to the Knicks. Man, it's going to be interesting to watch. And the conference finals is going to be interesting to watch. I think the four teams remaining are probably four of the most exciting teams in the league to watch.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So the first game is on Wednesday. Volume said they were going to put us on the hardwood. So if you don't see us there at the volume, flood their comments, their Twitter. They told us. Come on Colin. I would never lie on the microphone. Hey, Colin, we heard you.
Starting point is 00:06:43 We heard you and we answered the call. Colin personally called me over the weekend and said, Roy, I need you on the hardware. I said, Colin, if you need me there, I'll be there. Listen, I'll clear the schedule, Colin. Just let me know what time. Only for you. At the entrance and I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But shout out to the Knicks. and it's going to be fun to watch, man. Have you spoke to Julius during this playoff round? No, I haven't spoken to him. I thought about... He's been bowling. I thought about hitting him. I'm like, nah, because I don't want to hit him
Starting point is 00:07:06 and then they go on a crazy losing streak. I'm like, nah, no, no. You're the bad luck? I don't know. I don't want to be, so I'll just... I'll reach out to him after everything is all set and done. But no, he's been bawling. So shout out to Julius, man.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I'm happy to see him doing this thing out there in Minnesota. Yeah, no, absolutely. Outside of that, it was, I guess, a pretty busy weekend for our podcast? How busy was it, man? I'd be trying to like step away from everything podcast related and just like live a little when it's the weekend and then come back together and kind of talk about everything. But somehow, somewhere I felt so connected to all of you over the weekend. Even Pige, I felt connected to. Even better. Even better. Oh, God. Oh my God. More connected than anything. I was more connected to better this weekend than I've ever, ever been in my
Starting point is 00:07:55 entire of life. Maybe we'll say, we're not going to. No, we can't talk about it. It won't even be a Patreon thing, but. Can't talk about that. Just no, you know, thoughts and prayers. Yeah, thoughts and prayers. Yeah, thoughts and prayers, depending.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That's our guy. But yeah, man, it's been a lot, a lot of things happening over the weekend. We'll get to Demaris in the minute. Because I just, I totally forgot Baby D. You came here. First of all, baby D came here, she bought your food, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Let me tell you, let me tell you how Baby D adds insult to injury. So Baby D. It's not vegan. No, she does what she does over the weekend, cool. No, no, we'll get to that. But if she comes in here, she got food for y'all. You know, I don't know what she bought you or Pete. She just said food.
Starting point is 00:08:30 She said, Ma, you know, my food has, you know, meat in it. Pause. So I got you a banana. Now, Rory, I don't know if you've ever seen anything more racist than a black woman holding a banana towards a black man. I don't know if you ever see it. And you're dressed like the man in the yellow hat today. Like, I don't know if she's anything.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I love him allowed to say that. More racist than that. But thank you, baby. You know, you're going to explain to these people how much you love bananas. Oh, I love bananas. Exactly. I love bananas. And I thought about you because.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And I said, thank you. Don't make it seem like I didn't say thank you, DeMaris. I appreciate it. I said, thank you. I appreciate it. Did I not say that? You did. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:04 After I stared at you. You stared at you. No, because I was looking at you holding a banana. He was holding it like this and I'm just like, baby, you could have just said more. I got some bands in there for you. Like, you could have just said that. You could have just said that. You came back here holding a banana like it was a Grammy.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Like, would you want me to say to that? Like, that's fucking crazy. My bad, I'm sorry. And that's one of those, like, just don't bring anything. Yeah. See, no, I don't think that that's fair. I didn't say, damn, I got to bring him a banana. I will sit up there like, oh, I have all of these bananas.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I should bring mall some because more likes bananas. But we don't like ordering them for the office because they always go bad. Yeah. So. She treated you like, you know when you have a cousin that starts, like, dating a chick with kids? And you're having your own Christmas and, like, you don't really know her yet. So you'd like try to find something last minute for her kids. You get them socks.
Starting point is 00:09:49 It's like, yeah, I thought about you. No, you didn't. You realized today was Christmas and they were coming. And they were going to be here. You didn't want them to feel left out. It's okay, man. It's all right. As adults, listen, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Thank you for the banana. And I'm going to eat the banana paws because I am kind of. Well, I will make a vegan meal for you. Whatever you want, that's vegan. I will make it for you. Okay. I'm not making vegan mac and cheese, though. That's an abomination.
Starting point is 00:10:10 But anything else. Maybe I keep telling you, I got to take you to this spot so you can try the vegan baked macon cheese. cheese. I got it. See, I'm mad I even told you it's vegan because I feel like a lot of that shit is like your mental and you're going into it knowing that it's like vegan. I should have just like, yo, my mom's made some baked mac and cheese over the weekend. I can't eat it. No, because then when I say, you know, I love your mom. I don't want to say her mac and cheese trash like thinking it's real mac and then that shit is like, nah, because you wasn't going to
Starting point is 00:10:36 say it's trash. I'm going to be like, yo, this is good. I was going to be like, yo, that's vegan. No, but I made, um, last night I made baked turkey wings, uh, smoked cabbage and How you smoke your cabbage? Well, you smoke meat. Oh, okay. You smoke turkey neck? Yep, yeah. No, I used a smoked beef sausage.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Okay. And a little bit of smoked pork. But yeah, so made cabbage and then corned pork, baby, did? Cornbread. I eat bacon. Okay. Like most Negroes. Yeah, cornbread and then macaroni and cheese.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So I made that way. Oh, you went crazy last night. Yeah. What was the occasion? Just Sunday? Yeah, just Sunday. So. Who was there?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Nobody. You made all that for yourself? Well, oh, my little sister left in the morning, yeah. She had a little bit. Okay. But I wanted that and I've been craving it, but I can't leave that in the house for me to eat all that shit. So I bought it here for the guys.
Starting point is 00:11:28 All right. So y'all get the slops. Yeah. And I don't know why it's like certain names of food bother me when others don't. Like hearing like pork shoulder or neck, like when I see it on a menu, like makes me cringe a little bit, even though I like that. But like chicken breasts doesn't bother me at all.
Starting point is 00:11:44 But there's no. difference between breast and yeah but I love boobs I wouldn't want to slaughter them and eat them but it doesn't make me cringe the way it's like pork shoulder it's like can we you guys are creative at restaurants come up with a new name for shoulder like trick me
Starting point is 00:11:58 trick me I feel like they're so creative with everything they put different languages on that shit that have to like Google translate but like we can't come up with someone else for neck like just call it's a neck but please just call it something else it looks like a neck make me feel better
Starting point is 00:12:14 Y'all can see the neck bone. Makes my shoulder go like this when I read shoulders. Like, ugh. Oh, man. Would you be eating it off the bone, though? That's crazy. Yo. Tell him the man, he'd be eating it off the bone.
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's just me. I hope this doesn't come across his hate because I'm, you know, I'm really happy that they're overcharging for what they did to Bob Marley. But the Jamaicans in New York City right now in the food trucks and the food festivals, highway fucking robbery. Really? I went to the ninth of food festival. And they was really, really grilling some. jerk chicken. I could smell like, okay, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:46 You can smell like 10 blocks away. That smells like Richmond Hill Queens. All right, but I'm going over there. Two jerk chicken orders come rice and peas, vegetables. I get a side of mac, champagne cola, and a tin. Can you please guess how much that cost?
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm going to say $30. It should cost around 22. 74.98. I'm not gasping for the podcast. I'll bring receipt in. And I had cash on me and I could see that they were one of like
Starting point is 00:13:21 the catering joints from Queens. I was like, oh, they want cash. Wait, what did you order? Two plates of jerk chicken. Like two orders. Okay. That come with rice and peas. Yeah. Champaign Cola, Ting, a side of mac and cheese. Oh, that should have been about 50. I thought you only said one. That should have been about 50. Two dinners is 70.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So it was 25 each for the jerk chicken. The Ting and the champagne cola were $5 each and the side of Mac was $15. Highway robbery. That's insane. And you ain't even got nowhere to sit down and eat that shit for real. I said I was like they definitely want cash. I was, you know, trying to be cultural
Starting point is 00:13:57 appropriate. And Trump has a price is now. They only want to fuck with the cars. Let me, I got cash on me. I had to go back to the stroller to get more fucking cash. I was like, no, I think you rang up someone else's order. No, we'd had to split one dinner. Yeah. That's how we'd have to do that. That shit was for Amara? No, my mom. Because I was bringing food back to Jersey. So I was like, let me just grab, this smells great. Let me do that. $74.98. Nah, they tripped. Then had the nerve to say the tip
Starting point is 00:14:21 jars right there. That's a pair of new balances. Mm-hmm. That's, that's an electricity paper. You know, $74 for two dinners? It's my Verizon bill. That's crazy. From the truck, not even a restaurant. No, it was a tent.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Wasn't even the truck. They didn't have to pay for gas. Nah, they're wilding. They have the pay for gas is actually very funny. And they tricked me because they had, you know the grill I'm talking about. She looks like a fucking barrel. I was like, oh yeah. No, This is it for real. Recognize all you on Liberty have, I bet. This is good.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah. Was it good? 74. Yeah, it was amazing. But all I could think was 7498 in my head with everybody. Yeah, that's the thing. It's good, but it's not $75 good, though. $75.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, nah. We're not doing that. Not for no. Come on, man. I love supporting vendors and food trucks, support my people. But come on, man. Y'all, y'all charging fleet prices now. That's champagne, not D'Ampe.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah, that's not champagne. That's not champagne. It's not a soda. There's no alcohol in that. They might have gave you some crystal or something. You sure that wasn't crystal? $75 for two dinner plates is wild. Yeah, it was nuts.
Starting point is 00:15:25 At a tent? I had a restaurant you can understand. But come on, at a tent. Nah, y'all, y'all. Support my people. Love y'all, man. But come on, man. We got to...
Starting point is 00:15:33 I mean, I know inflation is real. Well, come on, man. Relax with the prices. Insane. Yeah. But, I mean, it was a fun weekend of taking a marty place. Took it like some marine biology shit. where, listen, there's turtles, eels, all this amazing shit going on.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Amara just wants to run around a tree and throw a stick. Then I took her to Hudson Yards for a magic show. She just wanted to go play with the fake rocks next to the picnic table. What kids want to do. Yeah, I get it. I saw, um... The small fuck is literally taking like doves out of thin air, Amara. Stop making a rock collection in the corner.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah, me's nothing. They don't care about that dove. I went to the movies I saw the accountant too finally this weekend. Okay. Incredible movie. Incredible. I love the accountant one, the first one. This is a, two is way better than the first one though.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Ben Affleck really has like a, I see what he's doing with this series. Kind of like what Denzel did with Equalizer. Yeah. I think that's what they're on their way to doing with the accountant. But I went to see part two. Great film. Enjoyed it. They really did a good job.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And yeah, man, you should go check it out. Did you see the first one? Yeah, I saw the first one. Did you like it? Loved it. Yeah, part two to me is a lot better, though. Where do we rank Ben? I feel like Matt Damon gets his flowers.
Starting point is 00:16:48 A lot of A-lister's get their flowers. I just don't know if we give Ben Affleck the proper respect that he deserves. No, I think Ben Affleck gets his respect. We've even had like top five actor conversations on this pod. Even down to like us doing the draft shit on Patreon. Like no one ever brings up Ben Affleck and you can. Because his shit matches up. Top five though?
Starting point is 00:17:10 He's making a top 10. Okay. okay I'm not mad at that I mean if you want to go like fucking like all the way back no I'm talking about this era okay yeah
Starting point is 00:17:20 fucking uh what's what's the racist guy that's been making movie since for the last 75 years Clint English thank you see exactly what I was talking about yeah I'm not like saying like he's going up against Clint for the last 75 years
Starting point is 00:17:31 but this era like my from 1990 to now yeah Ben is up there he's top 10 to me I'm not mad at that he's done action he's done he's done he's done everything yeah he's done I think
Starting point is 00:17:42 I think once you get, you know, Batman, if you were Batman and then you were in the town, all right, now we, like, it's like, all right, and then gone girl, but you're checking every box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then the account, you're the autistic, you know, hitman. Well, that's because he lost the other autistic role to Matt Damon, and what's the one with, when they're in Boston
Starting point is 00:18:07 and he can, like, do math and shit. Goodwill hunting. He wanted to be the autistic. a guy, but then you had to be the Southie fucking, you're going to make it out. Ben wanted to be that guy. Yeah, man. You got to go check it out.
Starting point is 00:18:20 If you ever seen it yet, definitely go see it. It's worth going to the movies. Demaris, I know you're out in the streets. We will get to all the bullshit, but just, just warming up. You was outside? I'm in a good mood. I was not, I was not in the streets. Where you was at?
Starting point is 00:18:32 You were. I wasn't. I went to, where did I go? You went to, see, I know where you went. Oh, I went to St. I went to St. That's the streets. That is not the street.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I had one porn star martini I thought you're about to say something else I'm about to say that's the streets for sure I think you about say I only had one I was like anytime I'm with porn stars I invite you invite you? I went to say I had one porn star martini and then I went to I don't want to make a porn star martini what's in that
Starting point is 00:18:55 vodka passion fruit liqueur it's I forgot but it's like passion it's like a passion fruit martini okay yeah and then I went to last lap and last lap was empty last lap is never empty it was empty on a Saturday so went I had some good food
Starting point is 00:19:11 had a couple too many drinks and then I went and stopped by Sahara. You know, I just did the wrong. You hit every stop in the streets. Yo, baby, we're not doing this. We got to stop this shit sooner or later. That's out. That's in the streets. You know what I don't.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Three spots in one night? Like if she said, hey, I just went to Lab. It was empty. It's not like I went to St. Lap and Sahara. Yeah. But this is my thing. I don't feel like it's the streets if I'm not socializing. So if I am only talking to the people I came with and we are not interacting with anyone, I don't feel like I was.
Starting point is 00:19:38 No, we got to stop doing that. Then I've never been in the streets of my life. If that's the case, I've never been in the streets. I don't talk to know these niggas I don't know. I feel like in the streets is like, you know, like you kind of like flirting, you mingling, you networking. Like I wasn't on that. And the streets.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah. Networking. No, in the streets, if you went to three different spots in one night, baby, you was outside. I go to three different spots in one night. I'm going to have to get an IV. Yeah. I didn't feel outside though.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I don't know. I don't know. I think it was just, we were just sitting. We were talking, laughing, you know, drinking. I did drink a little bit too much. Smoke a little hookah. And that was home by friends. Drink, smoking hooker, three different spots
Starting point is 00:20:13 and you were talking about you wasn't in the streets? I don't know. I mean, maybe? I don't know. I just don't because, like, you was outside, man. I didn't have one of nights where it's like, yo, we outside.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like, we run it. It wasn't like that. We were chilling. No, y'all wasn't going crazy, but you, you hit three different venues in one night. But they're regular venues. But that's three. No, the definition of the streets.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah, St. Last Lap and Sahara, that's the streets. That's how you outside. Oh, okay. That's like you hop to crawl around the city. You was on the east side You was downtown, you was west side Like you was all over the place You're right
Starting point is 00:20:47 You might be right Yeah, nah, you was outside And it's okay But don't sit here and try to put Stipulations, nah Because I wasn't really talking to nobody I wasn't flirting So because you're not flirting
Starting point is 00:20:55 That means you're in the streets I feel like being in the streets Is like when you have like a Like you're in the streets When you try to go home with someone Weren't you making out with a girl On your IG story Or was that was supposed to go to close friends
Starting point is 00:21:07 That was it was not making out That's the definition of If you had Sahara East making out with a girl on camera, you're outside. We were not making out. She gave me a, you know, what's the little things? The little shotgun shit? Shotgun. She had a shotgun. We used to try to kiss chicks in June.
Starting point is 00:21:21 We were not making out. Oh, she was passing a hookah smoke? Yeah, that's all. She had a cancer. I dig it. Nah, they lip-locked. Got kissed? I even went back to video.
Starting point is 00:21:29 No, we did not kiss. It was the girl you met here. We did not kiss. Okay. No. We were chilling. I tried to get Rory to come. You know, let me tell you what Rory.
Starting point is 00:21:37 No, when I saw the video, I was like, damn, I should have I went, I went back to the video and in my head I was like, Rory, she's a coworker. Rory, she's a coworker. Let me tell you what Rory did, right? That video was fire. Rory hit me with the, I'm like, yo, Rory, I'm at St. He like, whir, you know, I'm putting Amara down. I'm like, I would just meet me at lap.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He like, best. And I get the lap, he like, what you doing? Like, what you, where's at? What is looking like? Who all there? Nigger, you don't want to come. I just stopped texting him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I just stopped texting him. No, but that was just valid question. As a dad, I need to know, is it worth me leaving my house and leaving my daughter to come outside and hang out for, like, those are valid questions. Like, if I'm putting my kid down, that's a valid question. She's leaving out a huge part because she's like, all right, I'm going to be at St. And mind you, Saint is one block over from where I am at a specific time. And I was like, all right, I can make that time. She showed up way later and then stayed at St. for like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:22:29 So I would have walked over to St. Yeah. I showed up late. In my slides and PJs. I showed up late and even when I got there, you said, oh, I'm still trying to put a mara down. You wasn't even prepared. No, I was prepared for the time before.
Starting point is 00:22:41 But once nobody was there, then, you know, I might as well just put a mara down now. Like, Kea could have put Amara down. You ain't want to come on. No, I even said to Keel was like, I'm probably going to go to St. She was like, cool. And then when you guys were late, I was like, I got bedtime routine. They're all flaking. And then by that point, they had went down to lap.
Starting point is 00:23:01 am I going to leave hell's kitchen and go down there? But here's the issue. I wasn't asking her those questions because I was trying to get out of it. I was trying to convince myself not to go. Yeah. Because once Amara was down, I caught that second win. After chasing her around in 80 degree heat all fucking day with the sunburn, I caught that like, all right, go treat yourself.
Starting point is 00:23:21 You deserve a drink. Yeah. I was just asking any question for DeMaris to give me a reason not to go. That's what I was trying to. Yeah, you fishing for a reason to leave. I wasn't fishing to get out of it. No. I was trying to convince myself not to go.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Bro, you're talking to somebody that's matched today. I've mastered that. Yo, so who there? All right, well, let me know if it pick up in like 15 minutes. If it's looking like. If the pickup is crazy. Let me know what's back. She didn't answer when I asked what's it look like in there, which I was happy about
Starting point is 00:23:45 because I thought there was like the complex food fed shit, I think, in Brooklyn. Okay. So I assumed everybody that was there was going to go to last lab. And I didn't want to do that. So I was assuming she was like, nah, it's super packed in here. And I would have been like, all right, cool. No way I'm doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:01 What I found out the next day was it was completely empty. If she would have texted me is dead, I'd be like, oh, I'm on my way. Yeah, it was dead. Make sure there's a chair right there. Yeah, I was taking shots back, had a little espresso martini, some wings. Shout out to the last lap group. They always make sure we good. Yeah, everything was amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It was good. The thing is, the money was outside because the Knicks won, and they won, they parlays. Yeah. And, and wait, wait, hold on, Roy. You can't, you can't get it. You can't just move past that. I tried to ignore it. Remember it.
Starting point is 00:24:29 shout out to the niggas that was outside because the money was outside because the Knicks won and niggins hit they parley DeVos let me promise you something niggas did not hit they parley this weekend. It was so many niggins upset
Starting point is 00:24:41 30 point. What was the spread? They was like Jaylen can't Jaylen Brown can't get fucking 22 he filed out of the third quarter he picked up three files in like two minutes the starters are still in? Yeah, everybody thought
Starting point is 00:24:54 Jaylor Brown was going to go crazy because Jason Tadam wasn't playing everybody had Jalen for that deuce, deuce. It didn't have it. Because they was on my phone like, yo, they're going to train him. He's out of him. Borson is kidding. Yeah, baby, D. Niggas didn't hit their ballings. Okay. Well, maybe they're just in a good move because the next one. Yeah, that's what it was. A little bit of my ego is why I wanted to go out as well. Because I didn't want anyone thinking I was scared to go outside my own city. Like, because I saw people tweet me and shit. I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:29 no, I got, I don't let the city see me. I'm not scared of the brims. Wait, why would you be scared? Wait, by the way, I am scared of the brims. I want to make that very clear. I'm terrified, actually. I actually wore this for you guys today. Yo,
Starting point is 00:25:42 to show solidarity. As a piece offer. Solidarity. Solidarity. Solidarity. I wore this red shirt as a sign of solidarity. We're more alike than we are different. Yeah, you got to start saying shit like that.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Shit that makes no sense. Oh, man. But yeah, I didn't want people thinking like I was scared to go outside of anything. Yeah. Because, I mean, everyone knows it gets shaking at last lap. Yeah, it gets crazy. And it's already tight in there. Like, you get into fighting last lap.
Starting point is 00:26:09 You're going to get hit by accident. You're going to get jumped by accident. You're going to run into the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't fight in last lap because you can't fight. There's no room to fight in last lap. All right, baby, D, you was outside. We know.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But, yeah, I mean, I, you know, I didn't want people thinking after Cardi said what she said that I wasn't going to go outside. Like, you think I was scared? No. I think you should have been, no. Facts. Damn, I looked good. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:35 That's what I was thinking the whole time. All right. So do we want to start with this or do we want to get to Homey Court? Nah, let's start with this. Okay. We'll go on. This is going to Paul lay us into Homey Court, though. This is going to parleyas.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I'll read this. Do you want back story? Yeah, give some backstory. Okay. So I woke up first thing in the morning. I'm not going to say anything like I did in that clip. Okay. I woke up and there is a clip page that clips, you know, they wake up.
Starting point is 00:27:01 The moment we drop, they clip. they clip anything that they think can be inflammatory. So they made a clip of our... Inflammatory. They made a clip of me standing up for women and a little bit of the Cardi conversation was in it and then it got cut out. I love how you just worded that. They clipped me standing up for women.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They did. That wasn't the headline. They clipped me being an advocate. An advocate. And a little bit of when Rory said, is Cardi going to take accountability? They clipped and then left like the rest of the context out. They didn't hear like mall really shitting on Cardi. like they didn't hear any of that, right?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Oh, we're getting to Homey Court early. So. I should have, I didn't I shit on Clarky. So that clip kind of went viral. Cardi's fans got a hold of it and Cardi obviously saw it. And she felt some type of way because all she saw was Rory saying is Cardi going to take accountability, right? So she then drops in her broadcast on IG, basically a paragraph saying no sympathy shit
Starting point is 00:27:52 because I live and learn. I've been through worse in life, but I went through so much shit and deceit. And I don't tell my story and put these nasty bitches on blast because I've seen God handle every woman and the men that. put tears in my eyes and pain in my heart in the worst way. When a white man like Rory talking about, I need to be held accountable for shit, he don't know one thing about it really makes me see red.
Starting point is 00:28:09 This is not a competition. This is me taking baby steps to finally feeling happy. Seeing my sky blew with birds and trees again. Damn the dick good. See in my sky blue with birds and trees again of rainy, instead of rainy days. I feel lightweight, motivated in love with life, in love with love with my career.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And most importantly, in love with my three kids, no matter what. Shut the fuck up, you white bitch before I light a match up your ass. That's so, like, poetic. So I feel like my ass needs to be in the rafters at this point because Nikki put a broomstick up there and now Cardi B is putting a match. Well, Cardi's going to like the, you know, the end of the broom that's hanging out your ass. Cardi's going to like that. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Let's find the positives here. Can we be happy that I'll take the credit? You know what, fuck it. I'm tired of being humble. I will take the credit in finding the one thing Cardi B and Nikki Minaj can agree on. And it's that I'm a white bitch. that deserves something in his ass. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I ended the Nikki and Cardi beef based off their mutual hate. Hate for me in agreement that I should not be speaking about anything cultural. Right. So, yeah, I take pride in that. Okay. I think that's like something that I contributed to the culture. I brought Cardi and Nikki together. If you guys can never agree on anything else,
Starting point is 00:29:25 they both hate it. Over here, at least we can find this place. Yeah, I never see. We come together here. We know that we dislike this gentleman. We share the same, yes. deserve to be sodomized. Yeah, I haven't seen barbs and barding agree on anything ever in life. And they were, you had, it takes a special type of complexion to do that. On your ass. I was like,
Starting point is 00:29:45 I mean, in your ass, apparently. It was absolutely insane. Well, what's funny is I'm still trying to get like some free data in my phone from the Swifties. What I also found funny is that the Swifties and what's, what's Cardys? Barty Gang. Barty gang. Barty gang and the Swifties also agree with something that I'm a white bitch. Yeah. Yes. You know, the Swifties are more racist than party gay. I got called more racial things by the Swifties than anyone in party games.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Because they want to call you a but they can't. Yeah, exactly. So they call you white bitch instead. And you know it's a white person behind the. 100%. Self hate. Love it. It's definitely self-hate.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah, absolutely. But I got them up off your ass. I stood up for you. Yes, Cardi did apologize. She said, oh, sorry, Rory. But I understand. We all see clips and take things. things out of context. And then she saw the real clip and, you know, smoke went to mall.
Starting point is 00:30:38 But I'm here to disappoint, like, all of the internet streets with, like, maturity. I know this was, like, a green light. I even saw the comments for the first time ever people were on my side. Like, damn, I was fucked up. He didn't even say anything. Finally, this could be my moment to be like all the other media personalities and scream at the top of my fucking lungs. And I'd be right. Right. women yeah yeah yeah yeah fucking women
Starting point is 00:31:06 yeah yeah like I could be that guy I could threaten her all that but I did not go that route Cardi B and I spoke okay but the whole afternoon I won't reveal the entire conversation
Starting point is 00:31:16 this is a private conversation but we had a great talk and I think that can also happen in media we don't all need to just scream at the camera because we get one little green light from one miscommunication
Starting point is 00:31:29 now it's like well you you can't dictate how someone replies. Right. I can, yeah. I can reach out and I don't think it compromised anything. If Cardi B puts out a bad song that I don't like, I'll say I don't like it. It's that a great song. It's never happened though.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I mean, I agree. But I'm saying nothing was compromised because we had a great conversation and spoke. I thought that was. If there's going to be, if she puts out a great song, I say it's great. Bad song? I'll say it's bad. But I also think there's a world where people, especially if we are talking about Cardi B's personal life, has every right to have an opinion
Starting point is 00:32:02 about how I speak about that. I'm talking about her life. So having a private combo with her that was calm and super positive and came to an understanding, that's fine too. We don't need to take these moments to just scream at the top of our lungs
Starting point is 00:32:18 for clicks for one day. And then it's going to move on to the next person that's screaming at a woman. I just don't see anything in it. And I know all the internet comments are going to be like, oh, it's compromise. Now trying to be cool, Cardi.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Like, that's so corny. I just think it was a cool human moment. She's going through something. We spoke about it. I talked to her about it. Found understanding will still always be objective, but it doesn't have to be a green light to start screaming at Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Now because she said white bitch. And I also believe in double standards for everyone in that comments. What if Rory said black bitch? I'd say get Rory the fuck out the paint. Like double standards. I'm a camera. I'm a big advocate of double standards.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Double standards exist. Absolutely. Cardi B calling me a white bitch is not the equivalent of Rory calling Cardi a black bitch. I don't know where the fuck y'all are getting that from. Yeah, no, definitely not. How would y'all feel if Rory said that? They would feel upset as they should.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, I thought it was classy that she did say, she did apologize. I thought that was classic. But I did want to know if you were still a white bitch, though. No. I was actually like hoping, like during our conversation on Saturday afternoon that like, At the end, she was going to double down.
Starting point is 00:33:30 But you still are a white bitch. Damn. She didn't double down? No. Damn. Fuck. But shout to Cardi. We had a great conversation.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Maybe one day we can have her on the show. Maybe one day. I would love to talk to Cardi. Big Bronx shit. But that would be, she would come to see Demaris. Like, even though we had a good conversation, I'm well aware that my Cardi relationship is I'm the plus one. Like, that's her home girl.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah. Like, I'm just Damaris's friend. Yeah. I don't even think she said my name. That's why everybody was mad. You, DeMaris, homie, right? I'm like, Cardi,
Starting point is 00:34:02 I've been on a podcast with you before in like 2015. I think I think taxed and us was the first time he was ever on a podcast. Yeah. Shout out to Cardi though, man.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah, no, it was a great, mature, one of the more mature combos I've had in my podcasting career because we've talked about plenty of artists have reached out and like,
Starting point is 00:34:24 you've had awkward moments. Despite that, the energy, there was not that. It was very much progressive. Like, oh, yeah, I saw the wrong clip. But on my side, too, I was like, we was talking about your life.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Like, you allowed to feel away? And especially my dumbass white face. I get it. Now, Damaris jumped in it. This is the real shit. This is, yeah, yeah. This is where we scream at women. Shout out of Cardi. Women.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Much love to Cardi. We love Cardi. Now, here's where DeMaris comes in at. And I quote. You've never said that in your life And I'm just saying that I quote I feel bad because Rory was just joking to segue the topic
Starting point is 00:35:05 He wasn't being negative Moll deserves this smoke He was the one arguing with us Now What did I say that was negative Or could be deemed negative about party Before we get there Because of course we want to give the Florida Demaris
Starting point is 00:35:22 To reply With this thought Oh I feel bad because Rory was just joking to segue the topic. He wasn't being negative, period. That's all the tweet needed to be. It could have ended right there. But we're going to give the defendant.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I just want to show that the second sentence, you still get the Cardi B apology, you still get the context. Right. You still lighten the move. She still protects a friend and a coworker from Barty Gang. But it seemed a second sentence needed to be said. as if the clip was not right below
Starting point is 00:36:00 Right The floor is your senator How was the floor of mine? What? What? Nick! What? What?
Starting point is 00:36:08 How are you going to say Mall deserves this moment? First of all, I also want to let it be known that I was not the first person to say that. If you go to the response Of that,
Starting point is 00:36:16 everybody, every single person responding to said, wait, Mall is the one going off. Everybody said that. How did I, all right, so remind me
Starting point is 00:36:24 because you know I sit here and we talk about shit and kicking some time. Well, in comparison to Rory, you were the one saying Cardi's gonna look stupid when this man basically cheats on her and embarrasses her this isn't the niggas she pop out with yada yada
Starting point is 00:36:35 that's what you were saying. That's talking shit about Cardi? No, it's not about talking shit but you're talking shit about you talking about you're talking about when you don't exactly know what you're talking about which was what she was saying in that paragraph but to Rory. That's what I'm like okay but Rory isn't the one that said that. Maw is the one that. Did Rory say that Cardi needs to take accountability?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yes, but he but he said that to segue. He just said that to segue. And then he was like nothing. Yeah, but I said she doesn't. But I said I deserved a small. Like, I didn't say nothing negative about Cardi. I was just saying like, yo, you know, Stefan Diggs has a, he has a reputation. He's a, he's a playboy. Okay, but you also said that she's going to look stupid.
Starting point is 00:37:10 You, listen, even if you truly believe that you're right, even if you are right, a person who you're sent up, they're talking about their love life, their personal life, which is very personal. They have every right to respond to the way that you frame them looking stupid with dating who they're dating. When you're not in their bedroom, you're not in their phone, you don't know what's going on. Okay. Now, let me say this. When you pop out and make the statement that they did that they're dating or they're together right now, I have a podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I have a platform. It's directly my job to speak about that. I agree. You made it a point to step out and make a state. That was a statement. Going to a Nick playoff game sitting courtside, two high profile people, that's a statement. We're together. So now I sat and I talked about it.
Starting point is 00:37:52 All I was trying to say now, I'm not saying maybe the words shouldn't have been Cardi's going to look stupid. I want to say that. I love Cardi. I don't want to say she's going to look stupid. But meaning like, okay, now if it pops up that stuff on is on a date with somebody else next week or caught creeping out of a hotel or another girl next week, you think people are not going to flood Cardi's mentions and say, yo, like, ain't this your man? Is this your dude you was just dating?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Of course. But I can't be mad. I can't be mad at somebody. It is our job to have certain conversations about certain things, even things that we don't exactly care about, right? but people have every right to respond and I try to be more thoughtful of that when I'm making opinions.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Like it's never personal with me. Y'all know me. I don't know any of these people. Well, some of them I don't know personally. I don't know Cardi personally. I love and support Cardi because she's from my city. She's from my town. So anything that she's doing, I'm supporting.
Starting point is 00:38:43 But I don't know anybody personally most of the times when I'm talking about so it shouldn't be taking personal. Like I'm not attacking anybody's personal, you know, things just saying like, yo, you're stepping out with a dude and you're making this statement, this big statement.
Starting point is 00:38:56 you know, coming off a divorce and this is the first guy that we see you with, you know, it's like, yo, I don't know, you know, homie, you know, Stefan is outside. He, he outside. Stefan Diggs is outside. That's not a secret. Like, he's moving around the city. He's shaking and baking. I don't know if this is the guy that maybe she should be seen with fresh off of a divorce.
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's all I'm saying. Like, I'm not saying, you know. We were saying is we think that's the exact guy. Long story short, I ain't apologizing the most of the moment. all, man. You said what the fuck you said? It's on tape. Nah, you rat it. Nah, San Tate. No. You rat it. All right. I was fair and love the internet and our favorite rappers.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Nah, Rory got caught. All right loved the internet and our favorite rappers. It was on CCTV though. We got like the footage is right there. All right. All right. Rory got caught. Demaris told them where I was hiding that. That's fine. That's ratting. And you're right. Rattin is fine because niggas get celebrated for me and rats these days. So you absolutely right. Rattin is fine. You snitch now. You get a podcast. You get a deal from all kinds of sponsors. You can get everything now when you snitch.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I mean, it's kind of like, it's like the gun of shit. I feel like what Demaris did. I mean, I understood the rat emoji that you would put up. But, like, she didn't go full, like, Sammy the Bull, 6'9. Did she drop my name? It was the gun. Did she drop my name on the stand? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 She said names. But it was the plea, like, it wasn't going to be used in the case. They had their evidence. She said, it was a gunner situation. She said, Mar deserves. She said, Mar deserved. All deserves this smoke. YS.L is a gang.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Same thing. No, it's not. But it didn't affect the case. She specifically named Mall. She didn't say Rory's not the one that deserves this smoke. Somebody else might deserve this smoke. Oh, nigger. We know who somebody else is.
Starting point is 00:40:43 We know who Mall is, too. And that's exactly what you said. Mall deserves this smoke. That is Rat 101. She bit the cheese. She took the cheese. Listen. She got her Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:40:54 She got her chips. and she went in that interrogation room and she gave him everything. It was like when 6 and I was on the stand, you know Cardi B's of blood too. Like, sir, she has nothing to do with this. Nothing to do with this case. No, we don't need to know everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I had nothing to do what Cardi was talking about. No, you was shoddy in the case. What are you talking about? You was the main person. She pointed out something you said, you said she needs to take accountability. Cardi and her statement said
Starting point is 00:41:21 talking about I need to be accountable. She's talking to something you said. Okay. She didn't talk about something Maul said and it's in or something you said and she said, I said it. No, I didn't say anything that Cardi felt was disrespectful. Objectively, Mall is actually correct because Cardi did see the wrong clip, not the one that's too cool to blog posted. She saw the one of you talking and then it ended with me saying, does Cardi need to take accountability? I don't even think Mall's in that clip, period.
Starting point is 00:41:48 So I don't even know if Cardi goes. I don't know if Cardi goes to look at the other clip until Damaris. puts that up because she replied directly to Damaris's tweet. So I don't, Maul may have a case right now in homie court that that may be ratting because it was a new clip. My name is in the paperwork. She put my name in her paperwork.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Mall deserves this smoke. See, I don't, I don't like the selective homie court. How was it selective? Because I ain't bring you to homie court for shit that you did. I let you rock. I let you get away, Scott for you. Me? Me?
Starting point is 00:42:18 You. What did I do? I ain't bring you to homie court. You came out here and started ratting on yourself and telling and apologizing and and putting up statements. When? never took you to homie court for what you deserve to go to to homie court now what are you talking about no no no it's cool
Starting point is 00:42:31 no no no no so you can't bring you can't bring that up you can't bring that up you can't you already brought up a statement apologize now if you're going to say I need to be a homie court say what I need to be a homie court for everybody know what you went to what you should went to homey court for but we already had a conversation we are laughing about we laughing about a post you went and doubled back and laughed again nothing I was laugh again I can't laugh I laughed A nigga laughed and I got to go to homie court. You went out.
Starting point is 00:42:57 No, I didn't bring you to home court. I let it go. No, you're saying I deserved to me a homey court though. For laughing? It was a charge. No, fuck. It was a charge. We can't laugh.
Starting point is 00:43:05 You can laugh about whatever you want. Okay, so now, okay. You can go outside a bunch of a nigga. It won't me. But listen, listen, here's a difference. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. You said I deserved to go to homey court because I laughed.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Right? All I did was laughing emoji. You put my name and said he deserves smoke. Meaning, not only did you put my name. me the paperwork, but you was like, get this, nigga, him. That's what that was. You like, yo, now, get him. He's the one that deserve it.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Well, he even. Yeah, like, what was that about? Even. Me laughing and you saying mall deserves the smoke is not the even. That's not even at all. There's no, there's no even with that. He bought you an actual hammer. I asked Josh for the judge mallet, and he brought me this.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah. It's a lot going on right now. Yeah. Okay. I think Mall there's a lot of strong points right now. But it did trigger something that has not been settled yet with the fake apologies that happened on this podcast months ago. I think we should finally clear the air,
Starting point is 00:44:05 same way I did with Lex 10 years later, and have that homie court. Of what? Your LOLs. Okay, so I can't laugh. You are free to do everything. No, no, no, no. It's going to be a repeat of the other one.
Starting point is 00:44:17 See? See, I can't, because obviously you felt the way about laughing emojis. And cool, you're entitled to feel away about laughing emojis. But we're not going to say, say this is the same, though. We're not going to say this is the same. Mall deserves this smoke and me just laughing is
Starting point is 00:44:32 not the same. Okay. No fucking way in the hell. What do you think? What do you think the difference is? A laughing emoji was all I put. I just laughed. No, it ain't even about the original laughing emojis. It's about the fact that you went back and doubled back a week later and laughed again.
Starting point is 00:44:49 No, it was a whole different post. Yeah, I know. But it was a week later. A week after that post was posted. But it was a funny post again. You wasn't laughing for a week straight. Yeah, I was laughing. That was funny. That was funny. See what somebody was just pointing out the hypocrisy.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And I just laughed at. You knew it wasn't an hypocrisy. And he knew it was in a, and that's my thing with Maul. That was my only issue with Maul is Maul knew that it wasn't hypocrisy because Maul was there for the conversation that we had. And he still went back. It was a funny post.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I just laughed. Maul, let's be real. You didn't even laugh at the second one because you hadn't even seen it. When we talked about- I feel what I see. When we talked about the apology and Peach took it and clipped it up and made it seem like I was arguing, like almost like I was arguing with my boyfriend and Peach made like a post for me to post about it. I posted it like, oh, this is what happens when you point of view you already went through his phone, but he lying to you. You laughed at that and then immediately after you laughed under my page, you went and commented on that.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Commented on what? On your man's posts. You commented on my post on my little meme that. Pige made me. And then immediately after you went and commented on Drake's thing. I'm only commenting on what I see, though. I can't comment on things I don't see. Like, if I'm on my timeline and I'm seeing shit. Maul, you thought I was being shady when I posted that real. That's why you commented. You wasn't being shady. Get the fuck out of here. I was not. Objection. You watch being shady. Peach is right here. Peage is right here. Peage is right here.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Not leading the witness. Peach. I don't even know that work. Out of that asset, Peach created that asset. I didn't create that asset. Peach sent that to me and I said it look like I'm arguing with my boyfriend. I then posted it and said, this is what happened. Like, he's trying to explain himself, but you already went through that phone. You're barely in it. No, you said something about when you know he's lying. That was the, that was underneath.
Starting point is 00:46:36 That was the caption underneath. But on the actual post, I literally said when you arguing with your boyfriend, but you already went through that phone. It had nothing to do with you. I wasn't being funny towards you. But when Pete clipped it up, that was in the post. But it's only your voice. Your face is not in it.
Starting point is 00:46:48 But I'm in it. My likeness is in it. You felt the way and felt like I was trying to be funny. My likeness wasn't in this, this shit here. I had nothing to do with this. Immediately five minutes after you went and commented on Drake's post. To be funny. You were not laughing in the moment.
Starting point is 00:47:02 You went to be funny. I was laughing. Admit that you were being funny. I was laughing. It was funny to me. I laughed. Still, I'm trying to figure out how does laughing and a laughing emoji equate to being the same with more deserves this mode? If there ain't no loyalty on the left, ain't no loyalty on the right.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I can't laugh. A fucking laugh. We're talking about laughing. Listen. all is fair and loving our favorite rappers. Nah, man. All is fair and loving our favorite rappers. This is ratin.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I don't care what no. Mall deserves this smoke. That is right. And that is biting the cheese. That is asking for Pepsi and Doritos. That is right. When I said that, I didn't think you was going to go to jail.
Starting point is 00:47:41 You ain't a jail. I have not seen any 1090 Jake paperwork. Mall deserves this smoke. Listen, I had to distract. I had to get my homeboy free. I'm YS. Woody. I had to get my home boy free.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Oh my God. She just said she's why herself. I threw the case. I had to get my homeboy free. That bitch rat, what do you? It means I'm young folks. Yo, what is that? Yo, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Thanks. Yo, that is crazy. I got ratted on and they tried to tell me I did not get rattled on. I threw the case. I threw the case. Pointed suspicion elsewhere. I knew you weren't going to get bought up on charges as you have it. So I'm going to hold it down.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I did what I had to do for the podcast. I got both free. And we might actually get. Who is yours? I was never in it. We might actually get Cardi interview. She said Rory's needs to shut his white bitch ass up. She didn't say anything about Mall.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Maul's name is in nowhere in Cardi's paperwork at all. Only time Mall's name is mentioned in any paperwork is when Demaris submits her statement. It says, Maul deserves this smoke. We're all free and we're getting the first Cardi B interview when she dropped her album. I don't know if I'm free. I got to go to the Bronx tonight. Them Brimms may catch me outside like in the night. Like, I don't know if I'm free.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Why she keeps saying I'm free? I got to go to Fordham tonight. Like, I might not be free. Listen, man. Ace had to set up Rico. No, he didn't. It was for the better. It was for the betterment of Harlem.
Starting point is 00:49:02 No, it's the rat cast. I'm out of here, dog. I'm out of here. Everybody cool biting the cheese up here, man. You act like, we ain't got another job. Nah, man. Fuck that. Man, y'all tripping, man.
Starting point is 00:49:11 So you don't see any equivalent in those two things. Me laughing emoji? No. No. Is that dry snitching? Look, the same thing she did after mention in my name. See that? That's the same thing I put.
Starting point is 00:49:23 over shorty's post when she posted her shit about Damaris. Those same, that same emoji. But you knew, see, you could have taken the Demaris route with that girl because you guys are all OVO. That's team. She's team Cardi. So Cardi listened to her and realized she was wrong. You could have talked to your sis. I don't know her name.
Starting point is 00:49:40 What's her name? We don't need to get it. All right. Talk to your sis in the OVO group chat and be like, hey, you have this wrong. Damaris was taken out of context here. Like, you could have taken this route and been like, hey, you want to do that. Hey, your smoke is. Why would he do that?
Starting point is 00:49:52 Smoke is for DJ head. It's not for DeMaris. Regardless if she was right or wrong, I just laughed at just the whole, the clip. I was just laughing at it. I didn't feel like she disrespected DeMaris and that. Oh, I don't even like remember the video. Yeah, no, she didn't disres. I'm just stirring shit up for the fuck.
Starting point is 00:50:06 She was just trying to point out hypocrisy. But she didn't, she didn't call the, now she would have been on there trying to kick demar like this whack bitch. She didn't do none of that. She didn't curse. She didn't call demaris on her name. I think I was told that I only come on here and say, uh, I say whatever y'all tell me for a check. whatever y'all tell me to say I say for a check that's what I was told
Starting point is 00:50:25 Did she say that in that clip? Not in that one And another one Oh I see I don't I'm talking about that clip No she went out for days and days and days Oh I don't see Most of that said I don't even see That one that I laughed at
Starting point is 00:50:36 But that's why you should stand with your people's Because you don't even really be knowing what's going on The clip I keep going back to I laughed at that clip Whatever my emoji is on I'm laughing at that That's it My name is in paperwork
Starting point is 00:50:51 right there Mall deserves this smoke how is that the same I count I asked I asked for the defendant to be thrown in the darkest cell
Starting point is 00:51:04 and no she has immunity she snitch she's with us yeah fuck you're about good luck what would your witness protection name be hmm I don't know something like Ashley or Brenda
Starting point is 00:51:15 ooh Victoria oh it's funny she brought up Ashley because that's why she should be an homie corps we'll save that for Patreon no about it. Get your shit off.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah. You think it's you defending me here that you got free range to do whatever. No. Take the gavel. Take the gavel. Damn, whole cast mad at me. Yo, this is the rat cast. We'll be back.
Starting point is 00:51:33 We're going to pay some bills. Get a word for my sponsors. We'll talk to you on a second. The rat cash is crazy. Jesus Christ. All right. Well, to make sure this is real, I will reach out to Wack 100 and 1090J. They'll get the.
Starting point is 00:51:51 The full proper research of Demaris to make sure. We just saw the paperwork. We have to triple check, man. Nah, no, we don't. That's the problem. Y'all like to triple check paperwork. My name is the paperwork. Nah, I ain't no Photoshop.
Starting point is 00:52:02 That's a, that's a, what they call it? What do they call it? With the blue check on Twitter? Verified. That's a verified account. Verified rat. Look at that. That's not verified?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Listen. How's this? Okay. You know what? All right. As a woman, I'll take accountability. I could have handled that differently That's all Rory was trying to tell Cardi
Starting point is 00:52:24 Look how we get back to See now you get me in trouble with Cardi again I didn't tell her to handle anything It's really him he really is really him He really the problem What? I've been telling him Do I think Cardi needs to be held Yeah check his chest
Starting point is 00:52:35 Waring something Check his sneakers Ain't that what you just said Cardi needs to be held to take accountability No I asked Damaris Does Cardi need accountability And she said do you think that And I said no
Starting point is 00:52:46 You say she don't need accountability No Okay You didn't know anything wrong Well what did you say? Demandes? I apologize.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I mean mine, though. I'm not just saying it. I mean my apology. I apologize. I did not have to throw you to the wolves. I just thought that that was a tactic to get, you know, my boy free. But I could have handled that better. I could have left your name out of the paperwork.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So I apologize, sincerely. That's how unapologized handled. The first time, the Knicks go to the playoffs in 26 years, and the woman just took accountability for the first time. No. What's the, all right, May 19th, 2025, 336 p.m. Cardi B apologized to me and Damaris apologized to you. Two women back to me.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Wow. I'm a little like misty in my eyes right now. Cardi for president. Now, do you have anything to say? Yeah, that's all I wanted from the first. Hey, Damaris, maybe I could have just laughed by myself in the living room and not posted it to co-sign. the war that was going on between you and that person to add fuel to the fire.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Hey, DeMaris, maybe I shouldn't have laughed out loud. I should have laughed in the living room and not added fuel to the fire. Again, we'll try it again when you mean it. We'll try it against the first time, man. We'll try it again six months from now. You know, y'all don't take my apologies. Baby steps. Y'all don't take my apology seriously on here, man, on a rat cast.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Man, this is crazy. Actually, hold on. Can somebody hear me to gable? Actually, I'll come get it. You got some shit to get off? Yeah, I actually got somebody else to bring in a homie court. In fact, since we're hashing out things on this motherfucker. Hash brown, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I love me a hash brown. And while she gets that together in the meantime, if somebody snitches and no one goes to jail. Nah, no, we not see? Because nobody attacked you. The rats always try to find a loophole. Because, yeah, she did. But they did.
Starting point is 00:54:52 but they didn't attack you, like you didn't get the sentence for her ratin. This was the first time in Stan culture that I even saw this, which takes a special type of complexion. Even after Cardi apologized, the comments under from her own stands that listened to every last word she said,
Starting point is 00:55:08 for the first time said, nah, it's still fuck that white bitch. Yeah, they said, nah, fuck them. Don't apologize. They didn't even listen to their leader. Yeah, nah, fuck that. They read and saw the clip of mall, and he was like,
Starting point is 00:55:21 nah, mall cool. fuck that white bitch reparations Rory yeah I agree Damaris Now in session
Starting point is 00:55:31 The people versus Rory Farrow Yes Get his white ass Damaris please Because the only reason Why I had to sit And indoor mall's
Starting point is 00:55:39 fake ass apology is because You went and had a conversation with him That I was upset What he's supposed to No no no no no No but this is this is
Starting point is 00:55:48 Let's listen to this I have been dealing with people calling me all types of sensitive asses because Rory went and stuck up for me because that's how he felt. He felt I should be stuck up for it. I didn't go to Rory and crying and screaming and all. Rory came to me and he felt that I should be stuck up for. So I'm over here getting an apology like I was crying because I need an apology
Starting point is 00:56:14 when I said I'm not getting an apology for Malk because Moll ain't sorry. But what made it seem like to me, I mean to everybody else into the public is that I was crying for an apology for Mall. So I'm on trial for the court of public opinion? Yes. I ain't got shit to do with that. Because during that apology, you should have said, Damaris wasn't crying for an apology.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I feel like you owe Demeris's an apology. My fuck is over here like, Damaris is really mad at Mall about, I didn't expect no apologies from all. I didn't think. Maris was not crying for an apology because you weren't. So I didn't think that needed to even be said. That was that. This is what the court of public opinion.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I'm not fucking that so raven. I didn't envision what the comments were going to be the next day. I thought there was some internal tension and I wanted everyone to piece up. I feel like the air is already clear. That's all it was. I didn't predict what the comments would be
Starting point is 00:57:03 that DeMaris came crying for an apology because that wasn't the case. Sometimes I deal too much in truth and don't realize what the internet's gonna view it as. I'm like, well, this is what happens so that's how the world's gonna see it. It's like, no, no, no. It never happens that way.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Never happens that way. Actually, peach, homie, Josh. All the y'all nigg is not. No, no, no, no, no, no, because when I sat here and was sitting through that apology, nobody sat there and said, Maul, you was wrong. Everybody was quiet. Oh, Josh standing up. Josh said he said. And I mentioned, see, don't even put him on Tommy Court because I did tell you that Josh was in your corner.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I said that. Y'all realized that all I did was laugh. Like, laugh. That's all I did. I didn't say nothing. I didn't say get her. I didn't say kill her. I didn't say any of these things.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I just laughed. So you don't mean the apology. No, I told them. I told Demaris that if she felt the way about that, I apologize for that because that wasn't my attention. I wasn't trying to make Demaris fill away. But also, the girl wasn't like crazy disrespectful towards the Demaris. She was also just wrong. Even if she, but I just laughed though.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Whether she's right or wrong, I just laughed. That's all I did. But that's what? But where's the joke? The joke was just saying her cutting the video up like literally you in the middle of your video. And she'd like, now, hold up. go over there with what, it was just funny
Starting point is 00:58:24 I just laughed at that now if she would have been on there coming at you like disrespecting you and I laughed then I can understand you feeling because now that's somebody
Starting point is 00:58:32 just straight up disrespecting you but she just spliced a video that you posted and then took it back to some things you said months ago and then tried to just point out
Starting point is 00:58:42 hypocrisy I just thought it was funny that she did that now again if she would have been on there kicking your back in on a personal level and I laughed
Starting point is 00:58:50 then 100% you, yo, Ma, that's fucked up. But if I'm just laughing at somebody comparing what you're doing today versus what you said a year ago, I'm just laughing at it. Like that wasn't, I didn't see the big crime in that. So I did, and I wasn't saying. So the second one, the second one you weren't laughed at,
Starting point is 00:59:05 which was also a clip taken out of context because I was the first person on this episode, on this podcast to say that I liked sexy songs for you. I said that. They just clipped that out of the clip. You wouldn't laugh at that too. That wasn't even funny. Demaris, you spent a year and a half laughing
Starting point is 00:59:20 at any video. calling me dick rider this that third dot bop to dot bop man what i sat what i sat here and did what i took it all i would never i would never laugh i accepted it all from the mountain tops of victory like i said from the mountain tops of victory i would never laugh is that a fact because i didn't see that no i never saw damaris laughing at anyone calling you dick rider anything i was can't wait to laugh laugh everybody was laughing at that we laughed i didn't give a fuck not like in here if we laugh with each other yeah i would never laugh at you on the episode you like on the episode you're episode you laughed.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I would never laugh at you on the internet for niggas. You laughed on the episode. On the episode. We laugh at each other. What she's trying to say is if there was a post that, yo, whatever like the Miss Miss. Mr. Biggsby got like.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Niggas was turning to you into sexy red. I wasn't sitting up there. They was super imposing your head on sexy red, bro. I wasn't sitting up there commenting underneath that shit giggling and laughing and shit like that. I would never do anything like that because I'm never going to give somebody ammunition to be like, yo, even his co-host laughing at him. That's weird.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But that's weird. You look like a weird nigga. I'm just not me. But that's my point. That would be them trying to disrespect me. Shorty wasn't trying to disrespect you. Okay. In her post, she didn't say anything disrespectful at all.
Starting point is 01:00:32 She didn't call you out your name. And you don't think that the biggest rapper in the world reposting that is grounds for that, especially back to back. You don't think that at all. You don't think that there are. Which greenlit a bunch of people to say extremely disrespectful. To this day, anytime I upload anything I am harassed by Drake fans. Do I care?
Starting point is 01:00:48 No. But you know that that opens up. the floodgates for a whole bunch of things. There are also a whole bunch of people, my colleagues, in this business underneath your post, like, oh, damn, even her boss laughing at her. I'm laughing at the post. I wasn't laughing at you. Maul, your intention is not always the point.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And I need you to understand that sometimes. But that's what I'm trying to tell you, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. If I laugh at something, I'm just laughing. Now, what you think I'm laughing at, let's talk about that. I was just laughing at her trying to point out of hypocrisy and taking something you just did in posting on TikTok versus something you said on the show. almost a year ago.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I was just laughing at that. I wasn't laughing at her trying to make you look stupid or if she colded out your name. Like, no, that would be something that's like, damn, that's fucked up. But she didn't disrespect you. But you didn't laugh under her post. You laughed under sensitive.
Starting point is 01:01:35 No, you laugh under sensitive Sally's repost. And you know that he was not reposting. You knew why he was reposting. No, that was on the, I laughed on the, what was that, the plot to his page? We know who plots to us is. We all know who plots was this. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:50 It is what it is. but that's why that's where I saw it at. See, this is why I can't have fake court. What you mean? Let's do real court. I'm telling you where I saw the post at. I saw the post. I laughed at it.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I'm not paying attention to who posted. I don't want to draw this out. This was Rory's homie court. But somehow I'm on the stand. Well, you got out there and started telling. Because I got ratted on. My name is in paperwork. I was home chilling and I see Mall deserved smoke.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I'm like, whoa, I didn't even tweet nothing all weekend. Should have went to Bali. Yeah, like, geez. Louis's. Well, court is adjourned. No, it's not. Get his ass some more. Court is adjourned. Nah, because he's proven his loyalty. Word up. He's proven his loyalty. That's why I got him out.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I haven't proven my loyalty. That's why I went and got him on. Hold on. Hold on. I haven't proven my loyalty. Listen. Niggas double back on the laugh. I'm listening. I'm asking you. Niggas double back on a laugh. Shit must have been really, really funny. It was funny. It must have been really, really, really funny. It was funny. Should be funny sometimes.
Starting point is 01:02:49 All right. So you know, you know, it's just. You know what's funny? Them Barb's on your ass. I mean, um, Cardi gang on your ass. That's what's funny. I laugh.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Cardi Ganges on my ass. I laughed. I laughed. That's why he's laughing emojis. That's what the fans was on your ass. When? Now we're laughing. Cardi gang is on my ass right now?
Starting point is 01:03:04 Bartigang, yeah, for what you were saying. Hell yeah. Oh, I didn't see none of you. I don't know. Check your request DMs. I'm sure they're, uh,
Starting point is 01:03:10 threatening to kill your entire family. I don't want no smoke. I love Cardi, man. Big Bronx shit. I always support her. I don't want no smoke. Well, not that we saw. Somebody from a party gang hit my request DM and said they was going to kill Amara.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And I replied, oh, you must be a fan because you know her name. I appreciate the support. That's great. Keep listening every week. You fucking idiot. People are fucking stupid. Yeah. They were like, Tamara, you shouldn't be wishing death on women that don't, just because they disagree with you.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I said, I ain't who I wish death on. I wish death on women who support abusers. Standing on it, stomping on it. Like, I don't. No, I love that. Like, doubling down. Love that. Anyway, speaking of beef and...
Starting point is 01:03:47 I mean, the stand accounts are just great because they, like, be in your DMs, like, they're Jason born. Yeah. Like, I know you made this account today. Yeah. I can find an IP address. Exactly. Here's my address. All right, well, let's get to the rat beef.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Mm-hmm. That's going on. I'm going to just go ahead and say it. Well, first of all, can we take three deep breaths as a pod? I actually feel like progress was made. Even it doesn't appear that progress was made. I think this was the first step in that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:14 So what do you want to do? I think we should as a pod, everyone in the room, three deep breaths, inhale through the nose. One more. That's only two. You know he can't count. You said three. Let that one linger for a second because I was getting out all of the stuff that we were holding inside of us, the resentment. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Everything that we never said that we wanted to say. And this third one is now going to clear the air with positivity. Okay. Okay. More than breathe, I saw him. She caught me. He wanted to hold in the negativity. You got to keep negativity just for like, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:58 batteries got a positive and a negative, right? Inhale, good shit, exhale bullshit. Word up. No, I got some fire in my bag. When I exhale that, that's some fire. Ain't no bullshit. That's a pack. It's a pack, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Who do you think the sage would call out first in this room? Oh, why are you? God damn. People like Sage and Roy. He's like, oh, what does that smell? Yeah. It's you. You go outside. I turn into a werewolf.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Somebody like sage? You. Like that's my full moon. It's like garlic. I've never done that though. I did that one time. And my aunt was like, oh my fucking God, what is that smell? I can't stand it.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I'm like, oh, it's working. Get out. Get the fuck out. Man, one of my relationships, she had sage. And I was fine with that. Open the windows, this and that. But then she'd leave the sage like ashes throughout the whole crib. then it would just bring all the negativity back.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Like, can you clean the fucking floors after you do your activities? Yo, somebody said, y'all be lighting sage. Oh, my God, I'll never forget the tweet. Somebody said, y'all be lighten sage with the windows closed. And someone was like, demons just in there playing space. Yo, like, yeah, please open the window
Starting point is 01:06:10 so it has something to escape through. No, light the sage and you need to leave. You're the problem. Whatever. You love them, spiritual, bitches. Oh, of course, that's my shit. What? I love a chick that loves the moon.
Starting point is 01:06:24 But I know. Who winning, man? Who winning? The Wes or Joey badass? I know people are going to think there's bias here. All right, my bad. I'm asking you, the West or Joey Baddye? The same way the Knicks are the greatest dynasty in NBA history. That's over here.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I'm taking my bias hat off now. Joey Badass is cleaning up the whole fucking West Coast right now by himself. Damn. Does Joey Badass even need to reply? Let me snitch. This is kind of like. I'm being truthful here and I know we already have that
Starting point is 01:06:58 stigma on us that we dislike TDE in the West Coast which is completely false. If you look in the fucking facts that's just so stupid. My 10 favorite albums of last year, four out of the five were from the West Coast, five out of the ten were in the West Coast or TDE.
Starting point is 01:07:13 So fuck all that and biases and comments under this. Let's go with facts. Ravon had a great response. I liked it. Joey badass barred him the fuck up. And then Daylight, who I came on this last episode, who I think is one of the greatest battle rappers that's ever existed.
Starting point is 01:07:30 He's a different type of tier. Put out a fucking dud that I don't even know if Joey needs to reply. And I know Joey is mad at home because all he wanted to do was reply to daylight. I'm sure he has records already recorded about daylight. Even said in his Ray Vaughn reply,
Starting point is 01:07:45 I'm done with you, Ray. I only want to focus on daylight. He's on my level. I know Joey and his team are sitting in the studio right now going, I mean, do we? even put these out? Do we even engage in this? Joey cleaned all of you up. Reason, I loved your reply. I was one that encouraged you on air on Twitter. I love your response, but yours is also kind of to
Starting point is 01:08:10 the side of the back and forth. He deserved to be entered into the chat with that. And he smoked it, but I don't consider it the back and forth shit. If we're going just based off everyone that's trying to jump Joey from the West Coast, you guys are losing. Bad. A-Z, you had my favorite, not A-Z, Brooklyn A-Z, L-A-Z. You had my favorite feature on G-NX. I even did some weird shit and followed you on Instagram the day G-NX came. I was like, this guy is fire.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You make great music. Stick to that. I don't need to hear your battle reps. You didn't do a dent. Daylight, one of the greatest battle rappers of all time. It was cool. It's not enough. It was underwhelming by daylight standards.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Very, there was definitely some cool bars in there. Don't get me wrong, but, nah, daylight is daylight. I think daylight second verse on backpack is ten times better than his full disc that he just put out to Joey. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Joey badass is smoking the entire West Coast right now. Well, don't say the entire West Coast. Talk about everybody's trying to jump him. Everybody he's speaking to and about. Yeah. You know, I'm talking about everyone that's trying to... Getting the ring with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah. And they posted the whole timeline of the amount of people that's replied. Joey is by himself, and this isn't going to be shit on the West Coast. This is also going to be a homie court moment for our city. Thank God Joey handled this by himself,
Starting point is 01:09:39 because this could have got bad. Nobody is with us. Joey is by him fucking self. He's getting jumped and holding his own while the rest of us in New York City are just waiting on the Pacers. We also have a fight going on over here New York City? No, no, no, no, no, because I love Joey. Action Bronson. Somebody.
Starting point is 01:09:58 No, no. You don't get to go, go to these people party, stab three of their niggas, and then be like, yo, out of nowhere, stab three of their niggas, and they be like, yo, why ain't nobody helping me? Nigel, we came here to a party. You over here fighting with these niggas, and now they're jumping on you. No, I'm not helping you. I'm not coming out of the, I'm not stopping to the bad bitches because you wanted to start a fight in the party when nobody was fucking with you. Yeah, but the thing you're not talking to the marriage was, Joey don't need no help. He don't need no But you can't be mad at rappers for not doing it. No, he ain't, Joey ain't mad.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Man, listen, man, Joey is out rapping all of y'all. It just is what it is. Full show. No, but all right. I hear you. But I've had friends that I know can fight really well. And when they get in an issue, I know they don't need my help, but that's still my man's.
Starting point is 01:10:41 So I'll hold your jacket. Don't ruin that jacket. I got you, bro. I'm still going to be right there with you. You don't need my help. I will make sure that the car is ready to go because someone's going to call the cops. There's still ways to be a present friend. when you know your man's can hold it down.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Like. Oh, also. Can we show some unity? Also. Can Jalen Brunson talk to somebody in the rap community in New York City? Everybody talking about where Griselda, where stove got? No. We live in Canada, remember?
Starting point is 01:11:09 We're not New Yorkers, remember? I don't know. I don't know who asking for Griseldda, but one thing, y'all nigger, whoever said that, y'all do not want Conway and Benny to start rap. But they're saying is they're like, come help us. Come help us. Yeah, y'all want that. Come help us.
Starting point is 01:11:22 No, no, no, no. You know, y'all tell us we not New Yorkers all the time. Listen, Joey Badass is outwrapping all the y'all. Daylight, one of my favorite battle rappers, and I was anticipating hearing what he had to say in all of this and what he was going to come out. I was very underwhelmed. Very underwhelmed by the video, the song he dropped. I didn't even like the beat flip. I don't like the way they chopped the sample.
Starting point is 01:11:47 And it's crazy because, and speaking to some rappers and some artists, you know, by all this is going on. You know, a few of them definitely was like, yo, daylight is not built for this. And on that stage, on that battle rap stage with no beat, oh yeah. But now when you got to put a beat on and you got to have flow and you got to do, it's a little different. If you remember last episode when I was big in up daylight, I said, him and surf are the only two battle rappers that I also like their music. Like they make, that's why I was so terrified for Joey. I feel, I don't even want to listen back to our last episode. of how much I was like, I'm really terrified
Starting point is 01:12:24 for Joey Badass. I think Daylight is the worst opponent you could run into because he can do both things. And now I feel stupid. As a huge daylight fan, I feel dumb. As a Daylight, as somebody that always wants to hear what Daylight has to say and, you know, appreciate his rhymes
Starting point is 01:12:40 and his battles, I was very underwhelmed at this attempt. Okay. I mean, I know Pige is going to clip this up and Daylit's probably going to end up hating us, but let's still do it for the full-comers. Daylit is crazy. That's why I don't hate you. Daylit. Did I say daylight?
Starting point is 01:12:53 I said daylight. Oh, daylight. This man, I'm dyslexic. Okay. We were having a conversation off mic because daylight did say that this was kind of just warming up like the first round type shit. Like in this microwave era of people's attention spans being so short,
Starting point is 01:13:12 why are you wasting around? Like now Joey doesn't even need to reply. Why didn't you get all your shit out on the first one to some degree? he's saying it's just a warm-up I don't even know if we're going to get to the next round now The game started The game has started
Starting point is 01:13:26 This ain't the lay-up line The game has started He was trying to allude in that reply Like yo we're just getting started This is a warm up I'm not even going crazy Ain't no warm up But the game is
Starting point is 01:13:34 No like what I'm not saying Use all your shit obviously Art of War but Out the gate Now Joey does not need to reply I don't think anyone would be like Damn Joey's scared of daylight
Starting point is 01:13:44 Joey don't respond Don't respond Joey badass does not need to respond This is over It was cool while it lasted. Got the internet going. You know, rap, people got in the booth. I respect it.
Starting point is 01:13:57 But this is not. It's, it's, they, y'all, y'all can't rap with Joey badass. Y'all can't. And I, going into this, I expected this to be much more entertaining, much closer. But after listening to everything over the weekend and now here, daylight, you know, when he dropped today. He dropped it today, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:14:16 The hour before we started before. It's just not. If I missed a bunch of entendres, cool, because we just. started recording, but also that, like, I'm still of the belief that disc records and battle rap records still need to have some level of surface. Like, certain, it can be certain shit needs to hit. It can be too cerebral. It has to be more cool.
Starting point is 01:14:38 It has to be more witty. It has to be more clever. It has to be, you know, those types of thing. And I get it with daylight. You know, he just thinks on a different level. But it has to connect, though. Like, it has to connect. Like, don't break it down for me on the,
Starting point is 01:14:51 on a podcast and tell me bars that he said and why he said it. If it don't hit when I'm listening to it and the song is on, all this other shit after it's like, I get it, but it just don't land. It didn't land. That shit is not landing. Joey went in there and he had style.
Starting point is 01:15:07 He had clever shit. He had cool shit. He checked all the boxes when you want to, you know, like it's, again, this is a friendly fade. This is just like going at some guys and testing the pen and seeing who got what,
Starting point is 01:15:19 you know. But I, I mean, it's clear after this, you know, Joey Badass is outwrapping all of y'all. And I mean, to your point before, I think Daylight absolutely can rap with Joey Badass. So if he puts out another reply tomorrow and it's good, does Joey have to reply? No. Even if it's really good. No.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Because I think Daylight could save this if he quickly comes back with more of a haymaker and kind of forces. because Joey was the one saying with the Ray Vaughn's shit. I only want to daylight. That's who I want to battle. Yeah, but we got the record. So now you don't get to get the record. People respond to it. Well, again, we respondent to it.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I don't know what other people feel about it. They may love it. They may think it's incredible. I'm just saying we responded to it. We don't think it's worth responding to us. Like, and you're saying it was the warm up, game one, whatever. So what is it? Daylight and six?
Starting point is 01:16:15 Are we going that route? Like, come on, fan. If he changes the energy by coming. right back with something that absolutely hits that forces Joey. Then at that point, Joey, which is what Joey wanted to smoke. Listen, I'm all for people putting out dope rhymes and dope records. Cool. Whenever you want to put it out, whether you battle and whatever, I'm going to listen to it.
Starting point is 01:16:33 But I don't think that Joey has to sit back and like, okay, I'll respond to that one. Because then it's like, what are we doing at this point? Like, you're just going to just drop a record until you get a reaction? And I guess, I don't know, what I'm trying to figure out to outside looking in as someone that really fucks with daylight. What was the strategy here? Because you came to New York and shot the video.
Starting point is 01:16:54 You definitely put a lot into this. Why wouldn't that be the haymaker? If you're going to do all of this with a video, fly to New York, do this entire thing. Why wouldn't that be the joint? Why not do a temperature check, throw it out real quick, and then the haymaker be the one
Starting point is 01:17:10 that you come to New York and shoot everything? It kind of just felt like a waste of time. Yeah. If you are going to continue, you, why wouldn't, like, you shot a video and you're talking about, like, this is just the first round, like, I'm just chilling. Then why are you on the A train right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Like, do that for the one. Yeah, this is not, and it's no chilling. What is this chilling you keep talking about? Like, the fight is on. The fight has started. And you know what I also don't like in battle rap? And this is just speaking as a fan. Like, unfortunately, there is no real rules in battle rap.
Starting point is 01:17:46 rest in peace to Capital Stees, condolences to his entire family. I don't think it was crazy that Daylight brought him up. He posted a photo. We knew it was coming. Given this whole cryptic shit about why Stee's jumped off
Starting point is 01:18:00 and knowing something about Joey, like, if you don't really have information about that, don't set up that scheme. Because now you have to tell us. You have to finish that bar. And don't give me a cliff angle for song too. Like, no.
Starting point is 01:18:14 And if you don't really have something, That's going to be crazy. Now I feel like, all right, now you're wasting even going over the line, because that's what battle rap does. Now you're even wasting something on the capital C shit and you don't really have any information. You're trying to make us think you have something? I don't, personally, I just don't think I could be completely wrong.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Play this clip when I'm wrong. I don't think daylight has some crazy info that Capital Cs oft himself because of something that Joey did or knew about Joey. Like, I just don't believe that. just my gut tells me that. I think he was probably going through a lot of things that people go through. So if you're setting that up
Starting point is 01:18:54 and Daylight being the master of this craft the way he is, if you don't have the info, don't set the scheme up that way. Yeah. Because now you can't just leave that. Now you have to tell us what that is. I think that what Daylight does best
Starting point is 01:19:07 is perform, battle rap. It's obviously different on a beat, a record. Now, if Joey and Daylight are on stage, no beat. and just, you know, able to go at each other. I think that daylight fares way different in that type of environment.
Starting point is 01:19:24 I just think now you're talking about making a song and beat and, you know, music. And I just think that's a little, more elements added to it. So daylight is not going to look as good as Joey does in that because this is what Joey does. Joey makes songs. He makes music. He raps, you know, on beat and things like that. Now on stage and you let daylight just have his time and let him perform and let him get into his and, you know, get into his theatrics, I think that that's the better environment for
Starting point is 01:19:52 daylight. But this, what Daylight did, as somebody that loves daylight and fuck with him, you know, loves his rhymes and his battles, I was very disappointed and underwhelmed at, what is the name of this? I've heard of my mother. I have something like that. Tim's. Word of Mimva or something like that.
Starting point is 01:20:14 It's weird. What a be? Whatever. Whatever the corny New York jokes they make on. Yeah, I don't know how you even say it. But I was disappointed. I'm not going to lie. I was a very, very disappointed.
Starting point is 01:20:24 I do want to challenge West Coast media, West Coast Twitter, West Coast rappers, West Coast execs. I came in here and ate Humble Pie multiple times to say that 2024 was the greatest year I've ever seen a Coast have. Down to the point that I came in here, like, even their MLS team won the championship? Like, duh, what the fuck? We cannot be. beat L.A. They had a fucking year. I came in here and the Dodgers
Starting point is 01:20:51 They won everything. Came in here and gave them their props objectively. I know you guys are still on your victory lap. I get it. West Coast had a moment. I need you guys to be the objective people that you claim to be. Joey badass by himself
Starting point is 01:21:10 is cooking everybody. You guys are rat fans. ones I respect I know deep down in your soul you know Joey badass is cooking everybody And I need you guys I need you guys
Starting point is 01:21:25 To show how objective You guys claim to be What's Coach Wilson What you think about What you think about Joey Ready to start EV all over again Ready to go back to East Village Radio I like East Village Radio
Starting point is 01:21:39 I love East Village radio Walk up in the street and watch it Joey might be He might be in the city. Yeah, I just want them to admit. Like, they're sending, again, I think Rayvon is a great rap. They're sending their best.
Starting point is 01:21:52 And you have one guy that you play. Rayvon is their best? Yo, I'm sorry. Whoa, whoa, relax. I'm sorry. You know, I don't really get along with Buddy because I think he said weird shit. But again, we're here to be objective, unlike them.
Starting point is 01:22:05 I think as far as bars go, not status or catalog or hits or anything, but Rayvon could rap for real. And as the West Coast, I would say bars. Rayvon is definitely up there in the West Coast when it comes to bars. He can wrap. Reason. You put a little. West Side boogie.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Like those guys rap for real. So I think, yeah, I'll give him his props and that. Not their best as far as accolades or status, but just barred up. Yeah, I think Rayvon in TDE is high up as far as bars go right now. Do you mean, like, for the West, do you mean like he's top 10 in the West? Are we just talking like straight up rapping, rapping? Yes. Yeah, he'd be top ten as far as bars go.
Starting point is 01:22:49 What? Hold up, man. I try to save one. Let me save one. I don't have a top ten. I don't have a top ten. I don't have a top ten. I don't have a top ten.
Starting point is 01:22:58 I don't want this to come across. Yeah, y'all don't want this to come across the wrong way. And I know Ray Vaughn going to hear this and he got, I'm broke. He got more money than me. I get it. What I'm saying is this. In the top ten of like new guys in the West or like top. Like rapping, rapping?
Starting point is 01:23:14 Yeah. Yeah. Of new guys or like, all just anybody from the West Coast? I personally when it comes to, are we saying West like, is Simba included with the Bay? Or we're just talking L.A.? Because Simba clears everybody. Just talk L.A. Just talk L.A.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Oh, okay. Just talk L.A. Oh, okay. No, just talk L.A. I think Reason and West Eye Boogie are the two best rappers, rappers in L.A. right now. Rappers. Okay. I'm not, music is subjective.
Starting point is 01:23:43 as far as whatever the fuck you like. If a microphone is there and you throw on any beat, those are the two best rappers. I think Ray Vaughan is close to them. I think he needs to put a little bit more work. The reason. He can't rap. No, no.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I think reason clears Rayvon. Don't get that twisted. But I think he can be in the conversation when it comes to, hey, we're about to battle somebody from New York and we're just rapping. Yeah, I throw Ray in the mix. Okay. I don't think that's crazy that you said. Anybody?
Starting point is 01:24:10 No, I don't think that that's crazy that you said it. just wanted you to clarify upon your point. West Side Buggin reason are up here for me. They're established as far as we know their pedigree when it comes to actual rapping. But I don't think it's crazy to say Ray Vaughn is not as far as the New West up there with bars. I think he got cleaned up by Joey.
Starting point is 01:24:30 But it was just that when you said top 10 I had to make sure what were you, like, what was the top 10? What would you base in that off of? That's all. I thought you was talking about like just all of L.A., like all time. All right, man. That's what I, you said he's top 10 You had to clean it up.
Starting point is 01:24:46 You had to clear it up. We were talking about new shit right now. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You think, I think Ray Vaughn is top 10 L.A. of all time? You said top 10 from the West Coast. That's what you said. So I just had to make sure what you were talking about. DJ Quick will clean up right on.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I just had to make sure what you were saying. That's all I'm, that's all I was trying to get to. Just trying to clarify your point. No, we started with saying of who would be a worthy opponent in this entire thing. They're sending their best. That's what started this whole thing. Well, you got a system law, god damn it. Is Daylight not top 10 rappers?
Starting point is 01:25:15 They might have to open it. They might have to open it up from just L.A. a little bit. Like, like you said, somebody go get Samba. Listen, man. For the way Joey rapping, the way Joey rapping, man, y'all got to send more than that. They got to send Kendrick? Y'all got to send Kendry. Call Kenny.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Get him out wherever he's at on tour. Call Kenny. Yo, even I think Daylights above that you couldn't kill Kenny even with South Park. Not saying it's a bad bar. I just think daylight's above those type of bars. They don't even got to call Kenny. Somebody just go tell Jay Rock his little homies is getting punched on at the park, man.
Starting point is 01:25:51 He's going to show up with a dirt bike. Yeah, call Jay Rock. Let Jay Rock come in here because I fuck with Jay Rock. He rap is that. I think Redemption is a classic. Call Jay Rock, man. Somebody tell Jay Rock that his little brother, somebody took their ball, man, at the park, man.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Joey came through, took their basketball and left, man. So I was talking with Simba right when this daylight shit came out. And daylight shouted out, in the first verse. And I was like, listen, man, you saw a reason. They just said his name and he, he entered the chat. Like, so you need to send some beats. I feel like someone needs to dis Daylight now.
Starting point is 01:26:26 No. What? You just, were he just bored? This is wrestling at this point. You want, you want Ted DiBiase to swing on Virgil? What you do it, man? He said his name. Nah, man.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Nah. No. No. No. As a fan, I want somebody to diss Simba so bad. Just as a fan. Because I know he's not going to jump out the window and just did somebody for the fuck of it. Didn't he do that already?
Starting point is 01:26:48 Ah, sort of. No, he just, he rapped about the moment. He knew Cole was not replying to that. He still had the funniest bar of last year to me. You ain't let nods down. Can we revisit that? Because that, and this is not me being a Cole fan. He shouldn't have did that.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Why? He shouldn't do that. Why not? That is one of my favorite lines that somebody has ever said in a song that really made me laugh. But he shouldn't do that. But why he shouldn't do that? Because the same reason... Is he a rapper?
Starting point is 01:27:14 Yes, but at the same time, you would have never done that. Like, I don't like when people picket people when it's like they down. Like, Cole was down at that moment. It's like you would have never had a negative word to say about Cole. You would have never had a negative word. This is where I feel like history gets lost in so much shit. Hot 97, Guna era, Rockefeller era, anytime rappers went up to freestyle, they would talk about the current shit that was going on.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Simba was no different. It's just a different platform now. He just did it on YouTube. It's the same shit. Even if they weren't involved with a beef, Freeway's talking about something that has to do with the current moment of who's rap.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Prodigy went up and talked about so many, he would freestyle about other beefs that was going on. That's just what rappers did. Like, now of a sudden they can't do that. They can't talk about what's going on. He can do whatever he wants. I just,
Starting point is 01:28:04 you don't got to say you let Bars down, Nause down and Kyle's down. That's fucking hilarious. That was the, bro, when I tell you... It's like the funniest bar of last year, period. Boss and Cobbs definitely laughed at that too. Like, come on. I had me in tears with her.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah. It was real, though. Yo. I was to cry. I think about it again. It wasn't necessary, though. Well, we got off on a tangent. I am just saying I need all of West Coast Twitter media to finally be objective.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Be who you guys say you are. Yeah. You guys are sending real great rappers. Hey, they say nothing, man. We had that, man. He did his spokesperson, right? What Gina got to say? What Gina said?
Starting point is 01:28:43 Oh, she posted something. Gina was happy, niggas ran to the booth. She was hype. All right, cool. Now that we got these songs out the booth and on our DSPs or on YouTube or wherever the fuck they live in at. What does Gina have to say? We have to give Gina credit because she definitely posted something yesterday.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Can we pull up Gina's Twitter? All right. So I'm looking at Gina's Twitter right now. She said, a warning question mark, nigga. Empty the fucking clip. She used the clip from Set It Off. So Gina. Talking about daylight.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Yeah. Gina, I love objective media. See? She's being who she said she was. She's being objective. She even posted this yesterday. Nobody, Joey badass. He chewing through shit.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Somebody clipped that with no audio. Chewing through shit. She said Joey chewing through shit. I want Gina on this pod so badly. I love her so much. Gina, next time in New York, please, please. We would love to have you on the show.
Starting point is 01:29:41 We are huge fans, but she's being objective. And you see it's making head uncomfortable. Shout out to our guy. Shout out the head. What head got to say, man? Say something. Say something. You niggas got to say something.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Talk about it. You know what interesting? Is Jeremy allowed to say anything negative about TD? I don't know how it works. He signed to TD? I don't know. I mean, if he's not on payroll, I'd love to broker the deal. Oh, that's the one of the deal.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Oh, that's the way. I love white on white violence. You know I love white and white crime. I'm fucking around, man. I'm fucking around, man. I'll be texting, Jeremy, man. Get that hunky motherfucker. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:30:19 That white bitch. Get that white bitch. Yeah, Jeremy, if I'm a white bitch, you're a white bitch too. I love a white bitch and start fighting. Calling him a honky is crazy. Jesus. Yeah, we're about to turn this to Jersey shorts. White bitch is fighting everywhere.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Me or you, Jeremy. You think you'll win? I don't want to fight you. I don't want to fight anyone. I just ask if you think you'll win. I just ask if you think you'll win, that's all. I'm worried about the brims. You think I could jammy on my mind?
Starting point is 01:30:46 Yeah, you got bigger issues. That red shirt ain't going to do it, pool. Nah, but like, you know, Shug went to you in LV. That shit ain't even the right red. You make it all connect. I get what you to do it. It's deeper than rap. It is.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Before we get off the Joey Badass thing, did you guys see that he posted, like, paperwork that said TD East filed their LLC. and at Top Dog as the co-owner. Do we think that that was just like fake for the beef the way Drake posted the fake invoice for Push-a-T? Like we just gave you 200,000 units because we talked to you.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Or are you guys on the conspiracy theory side that a lot of Twitter is that this has been a planned rollout since before the red bullshit that's the reason Ab Sol was right next to Joey Badass during that entire thing. This was going to boost Ray Vaughn. Joey, we've seen with Pro Era,
Starting point is 01:31:45 we're not really sure where that lands right now or with cinematic, shipes, everything. I personally just don't know. I wouldn't be surprised. I could see a world where Top Dog and Joey Badass have a conversation because we know what Joey can build as a label. As a label owner and leader,
Starting point is 01:32:01 he did great with Pro Era. I can see Top Dog looking at him like, yeah, we try and do this TDE shit right now. Mm-hmm. we'll get your rollout moving with a beef. We have daylight and Ray Vaughn right here. We'll throw soul in that red bullshit. I can see this being real.
Starting point is 01:32:22 I can see it being real. I don't know if it ties in to all of that you just said. But I could see T.D. East being a real thing. I could see Top and Joey having, you know, spoken in the past about, you know, doing business together. other and things like that. I just don't know if everything that you just said is part of it. I don't know if it's part of a rollout.
Starting point is 01:32:46 I don't know if all of that is part of it. But I could see TD East being a real thing, though. I will, again, this is the objective podcast today. That's an L for New York. TD East? Yeah. Anytime, I never was a fan of that. Like DeFro East, Defra.
Starting point is 01:33:05 I never was a fan of that. I hope this is a fan of that. I hope this isn't true. I hope Top Dog and Joey Badass do work together and put together a label. Don't call it TD East. Yeah, don't call it TD East, though. Because the West Coast now has a one-up on us. Like, come on, we had to go to your coast to save it.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Yeah. T.D. East. Yeah. I was never a fan of that. And, like, even, I mean, I was six years old, so I don't remember. I just watched the videos. Even when Pock was trying to do Death Row East, it made more sense because he had the outlaws.
Starting point is 01:33:32 They were from Jersey. Like, there was already East Coast shit going on already. Park is from the East Coast. Fair. But just coming. like in 2025 for TD East. I'm not wearing the t-shirt. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:33:45 You're not getting a proud New Yorker. I'm not wearing that fucking t-shirt. Get the merch. You got to get the hat. You got to get the shirt. I'm wearing a Rockefeller shit. Not doing bad boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:56 And you know what? Man, what the fuck is reason talking about? What did the reason say? The only thing I hated that Kendrick said, which I was vocal about during the whole battle was not even pedophile shit. was that you said everybody hates the West Coast
Starting point is 01:34:10 and I'm fine with it. No, we don't. We've always loved the West Coast. Reason tried to get on that first verse, which I'm going to talk to him in person about that shit. We are not jealous of y'all. People got to stop this narrative.
Starting point is 01:34:21 I've never been sitting there going like, you're not a rapper though, Rory. You're not a rapper. He's talking to rapper. I revere the West Coast and everything that they've done. I love West Coast music. I've never sat and
Starting point is 01:34:35 I'm so jealous of them. East Coast. rapists have never felt like that though that was not a that's not a even the whole way the whole this whole shit may have started with pock and big that wasn't a real thing those two gentlemen knew each other on a personal level that was a very person that wasn't they they spun it into east versus west that's not a real thing like the east coast is always fucked with the west coast west coasts is always fucked with the east coast you ask some some people from the west coast they huge dipset fans in high school everybody was dressing like gym or
Starting point is 01:35:09 cam or like that that they it's always been like love from each side yeah even loved a narrative the small shit that dipset took from west coast culture too like i love that as well yeah this is a new narrative that kendrick started it almost reminds me of uh when naz said and m&m murdered you on your own shit and like that became the narrative that hove got be on renegade and then that turned into every single time there's two features we have to talk who got killed this and that that whole this whole disdain for the West Coast is something they all made up in their head. Yeah. Nobody dislikes the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:35:46 We love the West Coast. You guys make amazing music. We're not jealous. Like it's just, I just find it odd that they keep going to this thing that you can't even find evidence of anyone from Atlanta, Texas, New York that's ever been like, nah, we don't we're not fucking with them and the music they're making. Why are we acting? Okay, it's not, I don't think it's about the music. I don't think it's about the music that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:36:09 It doesn't even that. I don't think it's about the music that they're making. If we're going off of this bad, the things that are said in this battle alone, Joey was the first one to shoot that. Like, Joey, too much West Coast dick-licking. You can't say that and then say, why does everybody think that we hate the West Coast? When the rapper that they're battling. That don't mean you don't like the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:36:27 He's just saying like, you're right now, y'all just, it's too much of that going on. But that's-that-sob- That don't mean we don't like the West Coast. But that sounds, as a rapper, I would take that as one can make an argument that, Why are you mad that we get in love? Why is it West Coast dick, and we get in love? Why are you mad about that? Are you jealous that it's not New York dick licking? That's where I would come off with that.
Starting point is 01:36:47 I mean, well, Joey just showed why he felt like it was too much dick looking. Y'all can't rat. Do you think Jay was hating when he said that long? I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying he's showing it. Like too much West Coast dickling. Okay, y'all felt the way about that ball. Okay, let's rat.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Boom. Okay, now y'all see why he said the bar. Too much West Coast. He feels like a lot of y'all can't rap. That don't mean that the East Coast don't like the West Coast. He's just saying right now, I don't feel like y'all are that good. There's nothing wrong with that. New York has had its times where we weren't that good.
Starting point is 01:37:20 The South has had its times where they weren't that good. It happens. You go through waves and you go through periods where it's like, yo, they don't really got it right now. It's not a really lot of dope emcees coming out of the city right now. Like, that don't mean that, yo, we don't like California. We don't like the Bay. No, but what the fuck is that about?
Starting point is 01:37:36 Reason's line was this a Coast jealousy that you niggas think we ain't notice y'all used to be the mecca's you niggas was really goaded right so again because of what joey said I can't be mad at the rappers from the west saying oh you niggas is mad we get in love I can't that's not I don't think that that's a reach that they're saying oh you niggas is mad that we're getting love because right now the west coast is leading the sound because of this whole entire battle that happened with kendrick everybody's over here trying to make west coast sound and music I'll give him a reason to think hate is here now let's get to the facts oh god is the West Coast leading right now or is Kendrick Lamar leading right now?
Starting point is 01:38:13 But Kendrick Lamar is, hold on. How could we be jealous of the West Coast? Like, yes, Kendrick had the greatest year. And again, I was joking with the MLS and the Dodgers and all that for funsies. What is there to be jealous of? To have an objective combo. I'll do the devil's advocate shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Why not say, hey, you guys are jealous of Kendrick Lamar? Because the Kendrick Lamar sound that he has right now is a West Coast sound. Okay, name another record that's moved outside of GNX with that song right now. Come on. Who else in the West? Come on. Come on. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Let's get down to it. The West Coast has gotten away with a lot of shit. Let's get to some facts. I'm not fighting for the West. I'm just saying I can understand why one would take that as that. That's all. That's all. I'm asking you a question.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Why? I don't listen to the West Coast music. I think Kendrick did an amazing thing by putting on a bunch of West Coast artists. But after that, GNX is GNX. if Jay-Z puts out the black album are rappers jealous at Jay-Z or New York City? They're jealous at Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:39:26 The whole West Coast isn't moving the way that they're trying to position this. Okay. I'm going to get killed by Brims in New York and in Los Angeles. Listen. Why? Because I'm telling the truth? Yeah. Ma. What do you think? About what? You agree with what he just said?
Starting point is 01:39:40 Yeah. Most of it, yeah. I agree. Kendrick obviously had an amazing year. He turned it into the West Coast versus one of the biggest artists in the world. Had the pop out show, brought out a lot of artists from the city, which was great. He used his moment and he uses platform to shine light on his city and a lot of the artists that are in his city, which is great. But now, okay, cool, the light is there. Now you got to show up.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Now you got to perform. Now you got to live up to it. Now you got to kind of show us. And if this is the moment where a lot of the guys that some who really feel like a top 10 right now in this moment, a guy who kind of wasn't even being talked about until he decided to say too much West Coast dick looking. Like we wasn't talking about Joey Badass's music
Starting point is 01:40:24 before that. We was talking about unique on Raisin Canaan. And the great job that Joey was doing on that show. It wasn't even about music. It was like, yo, this nigga, Joey, he acting his ass off. That unique character was so good, they had to bring him back from the dead. So I'm just saying, like, it was that.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Now, if Joey says that line, and then he goes on to rap the way he's raced, happen and then artists from, you know, the West Coast respond is lackluster. It kind of falls flat. It's not really landing like that. Then was he wrong in saying too much West Coast dig looking? I actually, I mean, of course it was the flip off the whole shit, but I think Joey badass was wrong in that flip. And Q, uh, keep white people opinions out of hip hop for this clip. The West Coast, I'll use DJ Head's word. I think the West Coast has a delusion right now that all of us watched Kendrick Lamar in 2024 and thought West Coast. We're looking at what
Starting point is 01:41:24 the West Coast is doing. No, we're looking at Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick lived down the block. Kendrick live in Brooklyn. I'm just saying. So I love the West Coast unity. I love the pop out. Everyone there. Love the fact that y'all think, reason you and included, my friend, the fact that y'all think that we are all watching this and going, damn, look what the West Coast is doing. We are not viewing it that way. We're viewing it. Look at what Kendrick fucking Lamar just did.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Y'all were not in that battle. But you can't, but you also can't say that when you just sat up here and gave Ray Vaughn all kinds of props. I think he's a great rapper. Said daylight was one of your top three fucking battle rappers are all fucking time. Without question, even to this day after this was saying. That's him show a love to what goes. No, for sure.
Starting point is 01:42:12 But you can't say that. School Boy, Hughes album was the most underrated rap album of last fucking year. So then you can. And you see what Ab just did with his partner freestyle. Vince Staples at the best three album shit in the last five years, not even close. So then you can't sit up there and say, niggas is just jealous of what Kendrick is doing. Because you just shouted out all the West that's doing their thing. I know.
Starting point is 01:42:29 I'm saying how they have pointed this is now everyone's upset at the West Coast. Nobody is upset at the West Coast. Now it's like, damn, look what they all did last year and we're jealous of that. No. Nobody. Kendrick Lamar, who also happens to be from the West Coast, did that. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Just a little truth serum for everyone. I think it's great. I love the unity. But I'm telling you, nobody outside of L.A. viewed last year and went, damn, the West Coast smoked that. No. Kendrick Lamar smoked that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:06 So now why we don't have anybody, why is everybody... New York is trash. I'm here. Okay, I was going to say, because everybody... We are fucking awful. I would kill to have the rappers that are on the West Coast right now in New York City. Let's just be honest about that because you're saying they ain't doing shit. Joey shit got packed out and he didn't.
Starting point is 01:43:21 That's why I love him. We ain't doing a fuck. 30 minutes ago I just said, damn, we look soft as fuck. Joey, thank God, held his own. Because he could have got packed out by all the people that went. Daylight, Ray Vaughn, these are good fucking rappers. Absoe. Ma, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:43:37 I don't think nobody could rap better than Jada because. But it's. Is Jada kiss outside, though? You don't want him to be outside? I know. We see what happened when Jada kiss come outside. But we also don't want, we also wouldn't want for J. Z to come outside.
Starting point is 01:43:50 But that these are legends, yes. We will always have the best, the best rappers that have ever been alive have been from New York, period. But right now that are active in any streets, who do we have? That's a conversation. As far as like New Wave, New York?
Starting point is 01:44:02 New York. That can rap bars, bars. I mean, well, New York, the younger New York kind of, for the most part, because they are still some rappers that really rap. in New York. Vado being one of them.
Starting point is 01:44:17 But he's, respectfully, he's still kind of legacy, I feel like. Votto's been in the game for time of flying. Oh, yeah, no. He's probably been in the game for 20 years. Yeah, no, for sure. But, I mean, we still have guys that rap, though. Who? That, well, not too much of the newer cats. A lot of the newer cats are more vibe and style, and they're not really rapping. The whole drill scene kind of is like, you know, you're not really looking for the drill sound.
Starting point is 01:44:43 to be rap. Like, they're not really spitting bars like that. It's more of a vibe and the energy. So we don't have no hardcore rappers. I'll stay consistent. I will say the West Coast has better rappers than we do right now.
Starting point is 01:44:55 For sure. H.D. Bend dope from Brooklyn. I like him. He's dope, but he's, you know, still bubbling and coming up. Like, we have those rappers right now. Is Joey not a bad? Is he not a legacy?
Starting point is 01:45:07 Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I mean, did New York, the younger cast just got away from. When did 1999 come out? Yeah. Yeah. The young cats just got away from really like bars.
Starting point is 01:45:18 It's not really like a lot of bars spitters in New York like that. There's some. There's some. And we're saying not legacy. Because I know they'll clip this and be like, yo, what the fuck? Yeah. I know my song could bar anybody up right now. We're talking about new.
Starting point is 01:45:33 New, the new younger cats, it's not too many that's really trying to, you know, give you bars like that. A lot of the new music coming out of New York is more a vibe and, you know, energy is not really like bars. And we're also open to not being tapped in? Yeah, I mean, there's probably a few that I never heard that didn't land on my radar yet. I mean, you know, again, I'm open to hearing whoever feel like, you know, out of the young cats feel like they're bar spitters, then I'm open to hearing that. But other than that, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Wait, well, hold on, though. I don't, I still think Don Q was a problem. I agree. For the young cats, like spitting. He probably has 10 years in too, though. I think, yeah, but he's approaching that, you know, 10-year thing as well. But Don Q, as far as, you know, young cats that rap, Don Q, he's one of my favorites as far as, like, just really rapping. And, I mean, I'm here to give more credit to the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Don Q may be in a different system would be better. No disrespect to hybrid label, but public. publicly you can see the ups and downs that they went through. There was a lot of internal shit that we don't even speak about that to do with Highbridge label. Had New York had a label like TDE or someone like Top Dog and Don Q goes in that system, I think he has a different career. So that's also where we fuck up in New York.
Starting point is 01:47:02 It's not even outside of the talent level. We don't have something like a TDE. We don't have somebody like a Gucci who's going to put on every single bit of talent that is in Atlanta. We don't have a QC. So, yeah, we're trash not only currently where our music is at, as an organization, as a record label, as a whole fucking crew, we suck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:27 And watch your mouth, though, man. I don't like the way you just said that. Sometimes. But you're part of it, though. I'm about seeing it. We suck. But you right now. You can't call my kid stupid, but I can call my kids stupid.
Starting point is 01:47:37 I call my kid fucking stupid. Yeah, that's internal. This is Christmas argument. This is just for the family. No, no, I get it. I get it. Yeah. No, it's definitely a problem in New York with the,
Starting point is 01:47:46 younger cats as far as like bar spitters though like we've definitely been slacking when it comes to that um it's still you know good music coming out of new york but it's not just that i think and we can close this because i know we're getting to like super music nerd shit but it's not just that for the last 20 years new york has been bad at the bar spitters knowing how to make music like nobody's make there's people that can rap for real but they're not making songs yeah like kiss who you brought up without question obviously one of the greatest ever from new yorks York City. When you watch Kisses versus, were you outside of like the who shot your freestyle, were you focusing on Kisses bars or like, oh my God, this guy has created so many amazing songs.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah, for sure. We lost the songs. Like even the West Coast has been amazing at creating songs. YG, maybe not the greatest rapper per se. He has a classic rap out. My crazy life is flawless because he knows how to make fucking songs. Kendrick to wrap his ass off. But what makes Kendrick one of the greatest ever is because he knows I make fucking songs and albums. We lost that in New York. We stopped making songs.
Starting point is 01:48:55 It's either you can bar the fuck up or you're doing sexy drill. There's no middle ground where the rappers know how to make songs. That only happens in Atlanta, Texas, in fucking Toronto and L.A. now. Yeah. Yeah, it's a drought as far as spitters
Starting point is 01:49:11 in New York for sure, though. It's definitely a drought. The newer guys, the younger guys. I'm not talking about legacy and guys that's been outside over 10, 12, 15 years. I'm talking about the newer cats that just came outside five years ago, six years ago. It's definitely a drought. Yeah. And I mean, I know it's fun.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Blame Ebro. It's Ebro's fault. All right. Name a good song. What song should have Ebro played? Yeah. No, I get it. But we love the West Coast, so let's bury that.
Starting point is 01:49:39 He's going to have a field day cutting this up. I'm saying this now. I know everyone that's going to kill me is not seeing this part. But hey, watch the whole clip. Yeah, good luck with that, buddy. There's a lot of context and everything I said. That peed's cut out. It's not just, I'm not just shitting on the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Love to the East Coast, love to the West Coast. Love to the South. Love to the South. Love to the North. Love to everybody. Across the Pond in the UK or everybody. We love everybody. We support whoever's dope, whoever's hot, whoever is really, you know, doing their thing and music. But a lot of y'all niggas is trash. Before we get out of here, I just want to say I check something off. my 2025 predictions already.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Rihanna would tease us with music, but we won't get an album. Put out a single for the Smurfs shit. Well, I mean, she's doing the soundtrack, I think, right? She's on one song. She's one of the songs. Cardi has a song on your two, a couple of people do. Oh, okay. So, yeah, I mean, there's my checklist.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Okay. Smoking that. We want to send prayers to former President Joe Biden, who has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer. We got the news over the weekend that the former president was diagnosed so we wanted to send prayers to him and his family. It was good to see a lot of former presidents
Starting point is 01:50:55 those that we have left that are still living send their support and their condolences to him and his family. So we wanted to send a healthy and successful recovery to former president Joe Biden. Very much of you. This week, well, it'll come on next week. We are definitely breaking down
Starting point is 01:51:11 that Mexican boat, crashing into Brooklyn Bridge on Patreon. We might have to dedicate a full episode of Patreon to that boat crashing. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff on this list. I'm very excited for our Patreon. That was crazy.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Johnny Gil got beat by Stevie Wonder and ping pong. There's a lot to cover. Oh, air hockey. Air hockey, yeah. It's a rhythm. You got to feel it. Yeah, you can feel the air coming up from the... Exactly.
Starting point is 01:51:33 You got to feel. You know, your senses when you lose your vision. It's like bobslist. Yeah, like you can feel your sense of feel and timing. It's a little... Stevie had the advantage is all I'm saying. when it comes to air hockey. Stevie had their hands.
Starting point is 01:51:45 It's like when Vince Vaughn put the shit over his face for dodgeball, like he just had to feel it. Yeah, you got to feel it. Yeah, you got to feel it. It's like remember in Bloodsport when Van Dan was blind and he couldn't, he had to feel him. Yeah, it's the same thing. Life of Birdbock.
Starting point is 01:52:01 She brought the two kids to safety. MGK couldn't do it, which he could. Also, next episode, we will be getting an update from Mall about Baddy's Africa. Oh my God. I'm already behind the scenes and talks of like seeing how we get involved with our reunion. I love it. I think you and Bobby Light would play off each other very well.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Why you keep trying to make that? Because he's the host. He'd be in the crowd. He does crowd. He does. Shout out to Bobby Light. That's all? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Shout out to Batty's Africa, man. I'd be in the crib watching that shit. I was like, nobody will believe that I'm really sitting here watching this shit. They just be on there fighting. You looked at me. I might ruin our chances now. Is Natalie Nunn the biggest cultural vulture that's ever existed? She might be.
Starting point is 01:52:47 Because Natalie Nunn ain't ratchet. Like if you remember when Natalie Nunn first made her first television appearance, she is not a ratchet girl. She ain't a girl that'd be fighting and none of that. And somehow she has capitalized off of girls being ratchet and fighting, but I ain't mad at it, man. Get your bag. It is what it is.
Starting point is 01:53:04 But I'm locked in. I'm all the way in on Baddies, though. Baddy's Africa. As we close, would you judge me if I ordered a bunch of the Z. Zeus security t-shirts? I got them in women-sizes, too. Why would you have- For the crews?
Starting point is 01:53:19 Like, you know, if I got girls, though, where they could put on the Zeus security shit. Yeah, but why would you want them to wear security t-shirts? In the reunions, any time they get in a fight and all their clothes get ripped off, security gives them the Zeus t-shirt. Right, got that part. Yeah, I got packs of those at the crew.
Starting point is 01:53:34 For what? If a girl needs a shirt. So you ordered, you order, you order Zeus T-Suits. Multiple sizes. Why not just give them a regular... The one you have one would have been fine. Yeah, but the Zeus one means more.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Okay. I hear you, man. Whatever the fuck that. I'm trying to create a culture, my heart. No, I get it. I totally understand. It's a cult. It's more like...
Starting point is 01:53:55 It's a fight club. I get it. What's the number one rule of fight club? Where a Zeus t-shirt? You're so silly. Baby D! That's what he said. What's up?
Starting point is 01:54:07 Nobody said that. You was home by yourself all... Wait, why would he say that? Wouldn't she say that? Nah. She fake gay, you know that. She ain't real gay. No, Marry's a real gay.
Starting point is 01:54:17 What's up? What's going on? I ain't debating my gayness with nobody. What's going on? You called my name. No, I'm just... You just like the sound of my name of your mouth? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:54:27 A lot of people do. You're going to wrap this up? We had such growth here today. It's still growth. Growth is here. I love everybody. I hope everybody has a great week, safe week.
Starting point is 01:54:39 We will talk to y'all soon. be safe, be blessed. I'm black, he's white. A bitch as well. White bitch. And everyone remember that volumes said they were going to put us on the court on Wednesday. This is an I-Heart podcast.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Guaranteed human.

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