New Rory & MAL - Episode 376 | California Love

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

The Knicks season is over and it's time for us to move on. We're heavy on talking hip-hop today as Rory, Mal, and Demaris take issue with Complex's 50 Best LA Rappers of All-Time list (20:54). What would a 50 Best NY Rappers of All-Time list look like? (50:32) The Clipse dropped the lead single off their new project, and the pod approves (1:06:55). Has Gelo's run finally come to an end? (1:28:58) Plus, Cardi B and Stefon Diggs make it Instagram official, and Mal sends a warning to Cardi about what's to come next (1:41:16) + more! #volume *Timestamps my vary based on advertisementsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I think it was just because everyone was celebrating my birthday that it just, you know. Oh, for sure. Time is flying when you're celebrating my birthday. Six months until Christmas. You ready, baby, dude? You buying me something? Maybe. Okay.

Depends on how you act. He still owes you sneakers. Yes, he does. He owes me a lot. When parents try to count like a present as your birthday and your Christmas present,

that's what he's going to do with the sneakers. It's like three months apart though. Like roll over. My parents did that and I made it December. That's your birthday and your Christmas present.

Yeah. That's, wow. Y'all needed some money. No, it wasn't that. Yeah, I needed some money. No, we weren't like poor. You're just assholes. Oh.

I thought I was poor whites. You know. you know the old fucking Irish parents of how bad they had to struggle. Like, come on, man. Been a grandpa's house. Yeah. It's not that bad. A lot of rooms.

A lot of rooms are grandpa's house. Yeah, but of course there was 10 cousins and three. Yeah, everyone lived there. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That was fine. It was running water.

But how was everyone's weekend? Clearly, you guys can see that I'm tan. A can we? I'm sorry. That's not clearly. Maybe another. Okay, maybe another hue of red. No.

You look the same. What if I do this? Does it look like? No. Okay. You look the same, bro. I thought you were just dirty. I mean, your beard grew a little bit.

You got a little more like full of beard today. Between three days? Yeah. Maybe I'm going to. It's a little full of beard. I think it's the lighting. But yeah, you know, I thought it was a nice like bronze, olivey. No?

Nah, not yet. Okay. I was in the sun. How long did you sit out in the sun? Not very long. See? Exactly. So long for me, but I could like feel the melanin coming in.

No, I can do like 10 to 15 if there's like, like shade nearby. Okay. Like if I know I can run to shade, yeah, I'll bake a little bit. Okay. I start to feel it my shoulders first. That's when I... That's what gets a little warm.

That's when I know like, okay, I'm burning alive right now. I should, before my nose and forehead get hit, I'm going to go right to the cabana. Yeah. But, you know, I was out in another country, Florida. Yeah. Had to bring my passport. Yeah. Florida's still floatering.

Same shit. Yeah. And not like Miami. Like the outskirts, like Florida. Okay. Like where Florida man resides, yes. But it was interesting. I love running into our listeners in the oddest places ever.

I like the thrift stores in Florida because everyone goes down there to die. So there's like a lot of options for thrift stores because family's just, like, that's not really a joke, but it's dead serious. Everyone goes to Florida to die. And then when they die, their family has to fly to Florida, pack up all their shit. And they're like, I'm not, what am I doing with this? So they just give it to a thrift store. So they have amazing thrifting. middle of fucking nowhere Florida

I'm just sitting there on the rack and someone's like Rory, what the fuck are you doing here? Like of any fucking place there's no way that's you. Like an hour outside of Fort Myers like the middle of fucking nowhere. So you know, did that baked had some family time and it was, you know,

school weekend. You need that sometimes. Yeah. You ain't go fishing? No, we didn't have time. Gotta go fishing, man. Time to go to Florida. Try to go fishing.

Yeah. And you know where the toddlers. now. Like, you can't do shit. Yeah. But I mean, Mar's, she's, I guess still a toddler, though. Yeah. And we're on her schedule. Yeah. We wanted to go to the beach in the morning. And it was like, she just kept saying playground. Playground. I was like, all right, well, I guess we're going to leave the beach and go to the playground. Or the beach can be the playground.

I was going to say they usually have playgrounds on the beach. Like, you didn't have like little toys for a little toys for? No. Well, yeah, yeah. No, we had all like the pails and like we were digging for seashell. She even went in like the ocean and liked it for the first time. That was cool. Oh. But she wanted slides and swings. Is she as bad in the sun as you are? No. Okay. We have the same complexion, but because she has like some melanin in her genetics, she can handle this.

That black gold. She got that black gold in her. Like when she gets older, like she'll be able to actually tan, I feel like. Yeah. But in the winter, she'll look like me. Right. But, uh, no, it's cool. Regular weekend.

Um, airports are still a mess. Mm-hmm. You know, no notes. Just awful. What is the New Jersey transit situation? Did they fix that? I think, yeah, I think the strike is over. Beyonce happened.

And before Beyonce happened, they had to fix that because that's one of the ways to get to the Beyonce concert. So New Jersey train. Yeah, they fixed it before Beyonce. So Beyonce, thank you, Beyonce for fixing a New Jersey transit situation. Did she have to fly out of Newark? Because maybe that's fixed now. Maybe they actually hired air traffic controllers so Beyonce can get out of their safely.

You know where she named in that. You think Beyonce flies out of Newark? You think Beyonce flies out of Newark Liberty? All right, go ahead. I'm listening. There's Titoboro. I know it's getting local. But Titoboro doesn't have like, you can't do like jumbo jets and like,

seven whatever sevens. Yeah. So I think she probably flies on like one of those by herself. And you need like, even like the president flies in to Newark or JFK because they can't handle the private airports. So I assume like, of course they'd shut everything down. Right. No one would fly that day.

But yeah, I could see Beyonce like walking right on the tarmac. Straight to her. Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Like when Drake flies in, he wouldn't fly into Titoboro. That plane is too fucking big, right? Um, I'm not sure, actually. Okay.

Well, I mean, either way. Hopefully Newark's better because we have to travel soon. Yeah. I fucking forgot how much it sucks going to LaGuardia from my house. I love LaGuardia now. Such a beautiful airport. It's so beautiful. It's so beautiful.

It put so much money into it. But they did the same to Newark. Norfolk was a shithole just like LaGuardia, but now they're both better than JFG. Yeah. So, you know, we'll see. But what did you guys do? This weekend? We cried.

We all cried together, no? Oh, all the Knicks. Ah, yes. Yes. The burial. The Knicks funeral was this weekend. I don't even like the tone of your voice. You actually sound kind of like upbeat about it.

No, no, no, no. I mean, I knew they were going to lose. But, I mean, I was hoping they got it to seven. But I knew the series was over after game one. Like, I just, I think, I think we all collectively knew that the Paces were the better team after game one. But I am happy. You know, the Knicks made it exciting this year. They made it fun.

It was dope for the city to come together, watch everybody kind of root for the Knicks. It's funny because I was in my last. I live around watching the game, and you can see, like, the other buildings, like, in the area. Oh, no. So every TV was, like, Knicks game. And it was just dope to see that. Like, I just felt like the entire New York was on the same page for the last two weeks of just trying to root the Knicks on. So they did a great job.

I think they overachieved this season. I wasn't expecting them to get to the conference finals. They obviously have some changes they need to make some adjustments they need to address and things like that. But I think overall it was a great year for the Knicks. I think they definitely achieved more than most. I mean, I know every Nick fan thinks they're going to win it every year. But I think realistically, they achieved more than a lot of people thought they would. I mean, we were in here off mic when the Celtics series started.

And I was like, if they beat the Celtics, like, I'm cool, man. That's what I'm saying. Like things like that. It was like got past the Celtics, got to the conference finals, made it. I mean, game one kind of took the air out of the whole thing. But, you know, they made it interesting. They got it to six games. And that's all you could ask for, man, is that they played hard, but Paces is too much, man.

It's too much going on over there. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I'm very proud of the team. What's the guy? What's the guy named? Nimhard? Oh, he's about to get paid. Oh, for sure.

He shut Jalen Brunson down. I mean, if Jailen Brunson went to the bathroom, Nimhart held it for him. Yeah. No, it was. It was rough to see. That's just what it was. I mean, he absolutely got paid off of that one game alone. He's going to get, he's going to get a contract.

I mean, I hate the, the, the, the, the, the, what it should have could is, because obviously it didn't happen, but I think there's a world where we could have beat the Pacers. That's why it kind of sucks. Like, I know we weren't even supposed to really be there and we should be proud and I am happy. But they teased us because, again, I'm with you on game one. I think that was really the dagger from the beginning. That took the air. The energy would have been way different. But Brunson, I mean, I feel weird even saying a bad word about him for what he's done for our organization. I think he's the greatest Nick I personally watched and my favorite Nick. But he was quiet. Even if the numbers

don't reflect it, you could feel the different energy with Brunson throughout this series. Kat stepped up on offense, didn't play any fucking defense. Is Tibbs the problem? I don't think, well, Tibbs' coaching style can, you know, people can point to it a little bit here and there. But I think the biggest problem is the Knicks need a six man. They need somebody to come off the bench that they can rely on every game to kind of pick up the offensive low when Brunson or Kat is, it comes out the game.

They need another, they just need, better perimeter scoring. Like, Jalen Brunton is the only one out there that can create his own shot. Josh Hart plays hard, but you're not expecting much offensively from him. And it's a problem when our small forward is who we're relying on for all offensive rebounds. Yeah, it's just like that's not a good, it's been great for the last three years. Josh Hart has stepped up like you would not fucking believe. But that doesn't make sense.

Yeah, that's going to, that you don't, you don't, you don't depend on. on a guy like Josh Hart to carry you offensively. You know what I mean? You just take whatever you can. OG played great. But again, they got, they just got it. They need a little more. They need a little more firepower to kind of keep up with teams like Indiana.

Well, I think they'll probably run into again next season. Oh, for sure. But I think the next, I think they, I think they are at the level now where they can flirt with the conference finals for the next couple years. And I hope they don't do too many adjustments. Like the core four, I'd like us to keep Brunson, Hart, Kat. OG, those four I'd rather not trade. I know Kat was questionable at certain times, but let's give them a year.

Like this squad was together for one year. Yeah. I'd like to see them at least see this through. Yeah. Eastern Conference finals, first time and God knows how long. And they played together for the first time this year. Yeah. Like let's not nick this whole thing where we trade the entire franchise away just for the Greek freak.

And like, now we're just sitting here with Brunson and him. And it's like, all right, we have two players. Yeah. There's another three that need to. No, they need to address that. They need to get a little more firepower. But OKC and Indiana are in the finals. Oh, I didn't even, I thought it was over.

There's more basketball? Oh, yeah, yeah. Just because the Knicks are out doesn't mean it's not. Oh, I thought they didn't even do a champ like this. Yeah, no, it's just over. No, it's more basketball. I don't care. I'm becoming an OKC fan overnight.

Oh, yeah. I have never wanted a team to lose so bad in my entire, like, like within my, like, within my fiber of my being, I can't. I just think it's so fun that. the Pacers and like the Knicks are like still like you know what I mean like I don't 25 30 years later this is not a well the Knicks and Paces are rivalry I don't know if these Knicks and Paces are rivals yet but the Knicks and Paces organizations are rivals though Josh wrote that beautiful bean footage do you see what the fuck Ty Hallibur and posted yeah it's war

it's smoke it's up for another 50 years yeah but the thing is the Knicks have to continue to get to get there though every year in order for the be they have to have to meet. If they meet again next year, it's like, okay, now it's lit. Now it's on. That's when it's a rubber. But meeting one year in the playoffs with these rosters, it's not a rivalry yet. I hear you. I hear you on that. I mean, they did clip us last year, but that wasn't really a rival. Yeah. Meeting us twice. If they meet again in the Eastern conference, yeah. It's not, I'm talking about they full clip, everybody healthy. Let them go out there like they did this, this series and get after it. If we can get this again next season,

then I think the rivalry is back on with the Knicks and Paces. But, I think OKC, Indiana series should be interesting. I don't know who I have winning yet. I know everybody's favorite is obviously SGA League MVP and OKC. But I don't know, man, this Indiana team, the way they play together, man, nobody, you know, is either any night somebody else can kill you. Yeah. And I think Nimhard's defense, obviously in game six on Brunson is what killed the Knicks. But I think it'll be an interesting series.

I know a lot of people don't think it'll be as watched as if the, obviously, if the Knicks were in the finals, but I think it'll be a fun series to watch these two young teams go at it. Yeah, for sure. And I mean, obviously third place doesn't matter in the NBA, but I kind of wish they did that like they did in, like, rec ball. I'd love to see the Timberwolves and Knicks just face off for a series, like battle for third and fourth place. Because I just want to see those two teams together. It's just one Knicks team that was separate. Your participation trophy kind of guy. I'm a, I want to see the Nix team that was dissembled to play each other.

Some type of banner. Like it was an inner, it would be like an inner squad scrimmage. You would like, you would love to see the Knicks raise a third place banner to the top of MSG. You would love that. As opposed to no banner? Absolutely.

Fuck that third place banner. Get that shit out of here. Nobody want to see that shit. I'm with you. Did we tell a beautiful people who were sponsored by it? I don't think so. Come on, Rory's slipping already.

Come on, Jesus Christ. It happens. You know what we sponsored by. I had a bunch of bug bites. Boots Moose Moble. Losing blood. Thank you, Boost Mobile. $25 a month forever, baby, Dee.

Forever. Come on, make the switch. It's looking good. I don't know. Make the switch. I'm paying $125 right now. I need $25. Make the switch.

They keep calling me trying to get me back to the old to the ops. I'm talking to us over. I block those in them. Yeah. They don't even go through to my boost. Yeah. Never happened. Definitely made the switch.

Well, did you do anything over the weekend besides quietly cheer that the Knicks were being dismantled? Yeah, Lakers fans be haters. on the local. We'll talk about it. And Celtics fans, too, like, I hate, like, sore winners. Even though they didn't win their shit, like, y'all have dominated for a couple years now. And you have more rings than pretty much every franchise besides what, the Lakers? Why are y'all on Twitter when we lose in the Eastern Conference?

Like, I thought y'all were above us. Y'all are fucking losers. That's because the Knicks beat the Celtics, so obviously the Celtics are rooting for the Knicks to lose. And Knicks fans are a little insufferable. We are. A little? Are we? We're bad.

They tore the city up because they made it to the conference finals. That's beautiful. They tore the city apart. It was trash every. Well, that's any day in New Yorkshire. They were looting. They were looting. I think that's what they were.

I told you all my dumb ass went down. Was Antifa. Try to go to Penn Station, which is next to Madison Square Garden or connected or whatever, to get on the train after game five. And I was just sitting up there like what the, like I literally felt like I was a movie. That's such a girl. I wasn't, I wasn't thinking. You have no clue. Like, why would you go anywhere near?

I wasn't thinking. Because the Uber's, they were. double charge it on the Uber's. I'm like, I'm not paying $150 to get home. So I was like, oh, I'll just get on the train. Do do, do, do, do, do. And got off the train and was like, oh, fuck. Yeah.

Like, and got swarm. The cops were pushing me. They're like, you got to go this way. I'm like, I'm literally a girl. I don't know what the fuck is going on. So after we recorded, uh, I watched Game 5 here. Because I was like, oh, shit, the game, I had ordered something to eat. It was like, I'm like, I'm not missing the start of the game.

So I watched the game here. They won game five like we thought they would. So leaving here. Oh, I'm sure. You know the pedal, the pedal bike cabbies, like the little. Every last one of them was playing Jayzie, Alicia. Yep. I was like, Jesus Christ.

It's game five. Cut this shit off. Like, turn it off. Put these fucking bikes on the side of the fucking road. Like, get out of the – they were in the middle of the street, like 6th Avenue, just doing whatever they want. Yeah. New York! Concrete jungle, wadry.

I was like, yo, it's game. Five. Like, they are still down. Okay, but is it where dreams are made of? That part was true. Okay. But dreams also die in New York. And the dream of the Knicks making it to the fire. Absolutely.

Jay and Alicia Keys need to put that song out. But it was a good season for the Knicks, so shout out to the Knicks. And hopefully they could pick up on the momentum next year and get right back. I don't think Knicks fans are that insufferable. If we're going off fan basis. How? We lose all the time. Yeah, but y'all don't.

Even still. But even when y'all lose, it's always like next year. Like we're going to win it all. But we keep to ourselves. Like, we're not like Eagles. Eagles fans are the worst. I would say New York jet fans are 10 times worse than Knicks fans. Even if they blend together.

Jets and Knicks fans are the same fan base. Have you been to a Jets game? Have you been on the train? Yeah. It is 10 times worse than outside the garden. It's not even close. It's obnoxious people from Long Island. It's drunk people from New Jersey.

Like the worst of the worst from New Jersey. Well, that's because the team. Knicks fans is a blend of the, whole city to me. Yeah. Like you get Giants fans that are calm and cool that are also Knicks fans. The degenerates are the Jets fans. Yeah, but Giants fans are calm and cool because the Giants actually won in like.

Even when the Giants weren't winning, they were Giants fans. It's cool. Jets fans no matter, they could be fucking 0-N-8 and they're still as obnoxious as if they were eight-nosed. Giants fans are not cool. Have you ever been to a Giants game like when they lose at my life? That's the best time to be there. They are not cool.

needs to be starting fights in the yard Like they're no New York sports fans in general are not cool It's New York sports fans Eagles fans And cowboy fans are absolutely terrible people I'm with you on cowboy fans for sure Cowboy fans are awful

They're just like weird people Especially cowboy fans not from Dallas Cowboys fans are kind of similar to Knicks fans too Both delusional fan bases They think that every year They're gonna win it all Well the Cowboys have a little bit more to stand on

But I am with you no matter whether they're good or not, they're going to sell out and everyone's going to care. Absolutely. Same exact. There's a comparison there. Fanbase. Well, over the weekend on the music side, I did see the timeline. Oh, not yet. I'm sorry.

Ready. I mean, if you want to start with the hate. No, no, I thought that's what we was going into. I was going to go into what had the timeline in Disabre. We'd go right into the trumpets if you like. No, let's go on to the list. Let's go on to the list first. I didn't have much service, and the Wi-Fi was down where I was at. So there was only a few times I could see what was pissing everyone off per hour.

But I did see complex. Anytime complex puts any list out, you know the timeline is going to melt. Everyone's going to stop what they're doing on a Saturday. Say fuck their kids, fuck the plans they had. We need to argue about what Complex has to say. Even if it is a third party writer, 1099 that doesn't even work. Does anyone even work at Complex anymore? I think it's bots.

They just make, they just do an AI generated lit. Like what would piss the time? Chatsubit, what would piss the timeline off? Shout out. Just leave Tupac off. Exactly. That's what ChatGBT.B.T. split up. Well, to be fair, Pock is not from L.A. Which we'll get there. Complex best L.A. rappers of all-time list.

I don't know if this is going to start the city-by-city thing that we're going to get for the rest of the year. But I'm not mad at them starting with L.A. We'll just go through the top five real quick. Well, the funny thing. Go ahead. Because this is the top. 50 LA rappers, right? Yes.

A lot of these rappers are not from L.A. They're from California, but they're not from Los Angeles. Okay. How are we, you know what I mean? That's when I saw the list out. I looked at it. I was like, okay, but they're saying from L.A.,

a lot of these guys are not from L.A. like Snoop is from Long Beach. Kendrick is from Compton. You know what I mean? It's kind of like where we... Okay, I see what you're saying, but if they did the greatest New York City rappers of all time,

and Jada kiss was on. the list, I wouldn't be like, no, he's from yonkers. I wouldn't say that. He's still New York City rapper. Long Beach is still Compton. I understand that those are not in the L.A. County, or maybe it is L.A. County, but it's not a Los Angeles address. Compton is its own city. Long Beach is his own city. It's still the L.A. greater area, I feel like. I mean, I just know people from from these places that they've had these same, like, yo, we're not L.A.

This is not L.A. He's not from L.A. Okay. They're saying this. Like, he's not from L.A. He's not from L.A. He's not from L.A. where he's from,

they don't even fuck with L.A. Like, it's a lot of that going on. Of course. And I get that politics, especially with L.A. of any other city. But not even to get on the Amaretta shit, but like,

if they were to do the best rappers from Atlanta, Andre 3000 can't be on it now? Because he's technically not from Atlanta. Well, that's why you go best rappers from California. No, but then that's insane because you're getting into the bay. Like, that's a big... California is like the third biggest state.

That's crazy. Uh, okay. Yeah, I'm not here to nitpick, but I'm just, you know, was reading the timeline and seeing what people were saying, that's all. Like, if we can't have Raq Kim on the greatest New York city rappers, why wouldn't you? He's from Long Island. Exactly.

That's New York, though. It would be the New York City It wouldn't be New York City It would be New York Oh then if we get into New York State Then we have to put in Griselda there Yeah Okay

All right cool So would just state by state you would do I would just do the whole New York Okay I'm not mad at that Fair enough Some niggas from Binghamton Who get it in for sure

From Binghamton Like rapping Who? No she said get it in She's not talking about rap Okay I know if you niggas I know if there's people who flood in campus

Who's rapping from Binghamton Like I'm missed that That whole movement. I'm just saying, you know. I get Rory's point, though. I was more so on the side of the rappers that are straight up not from the L.A. area, period. Okay. So we'll get at least to the top five.

And then from there, I think it brings up immediately somebody that's really not. So at number one is Kendrick Lamar. Number two, Snoop Dog, three, Ice Q, four, Dr. Dre, five Tyler Creator, six DJ Quick, seven Ice-Eastee. 8 be real, 9 EZE, 10 Nipsey Hustle. Out the gate, to your point, Maul, I know Ice T very much made his career on the West Coast and is a representation of the West Coast. He's from New York, New Jersey. He would be.

Ice T would be from New York, New Jersey. Why do you say that? Because he acts like he's from Newark, New Jersey. That makes so much fucking sense. Because he likes white girls? No, not just that. Because he pimps out white girls? Because of the type of, you know, we love Coco.

Of course. How do you feel about the top 10 outside of the regional debate between Ice T and Newark, New Jersey? I don't know. I just think having game not in the top 10 is blasphemy. I completely agree with you.

You know, the more I look through the list. Who would you replace them with? Game? Yeah. I think game can be in the top five. Who would you replace them with the top five? I'm fine with Tyler going down to six.

If I'm keeping their order and just bumping where games should be, I'm not mad at the top five if it's no matter the order, Kendrick Snoop, Ice Cube, Dr. Dre game, I think that is a very fair, fair top five. Okay, before we do that,

what is the criteria? Are we just talking to success? It's complex, so you never get one. Okay, so we don't know what the criteria is because... As much as I hate BDOT's list, at least he puts a criteria at the bottom and says it's because of these things. Complex is just throw shit out.

And makes us all argue without any context. No context and complex is what happens every time. No, they know that we're going to do what we're doing. See me on our platform and dissect this list and keep saying complex over and over and over. Exactly. We stuck to three core principles when sorting our ranking. This is coming from complex. Skill as a hip hop artist, strength of a catalog,

commercial impact, and lasting influence. They say by skill, they mean the entire rap package, delivery, presence, pin game, overall artistry. They're focusing strictly on rappers. So while artists like Nate Doggett and Tai Dollars are iconic LA artists, they're fundamentally singers, not rappers. So hip hop skill, strength of a catalog, commercial impact, and lasting influence. If you're focusing just on rappers and skill then, is Dr. Dre and EZE allowed on the list

as they do not write their own raps? And have both admitted that and it's like, I'm fine with it. I don't really care. They made incredible music and are the two probably biggest icons in the L.A. rap scene ever. But if you're going off skill of rapping, off their criteria, not mine. Dr. Dre and EZE, are they allowed to be

on the list? Yes, because they explain that by skill, they mean the entire rap package, delivery, present, pin game, and overall artistry. It takes more to be a rapper than... I agree. But if you're taking out one complete pillar where every other person on this list... The pin game is the biggest... That's the biggest part of rap.

Every single artist on here would cover every single pillar, period. those two, an entire pillar is gone. Like, gone and the pillar, if we, the pen is the pillar. Like, as a rapper, that's what you have. You have your pen is your sword. If you want to talk about the two most important people in LA rap history,

Drey and Easy, and I'm fine with that. But if you're going off that criteria, I don't know if Dr. Drey and Easy are allowed on this list. I think they're allowed on the list. I just don't think they should be as far up. Game, not in the top ten is crazy. I mean, that's, that's to me. We could just talk about that.

Take out the pillar. it and it should be Kendrick, Snoop, Ice Q, Dre, and Game for sure. I don't know L.A. politics. I'm not from over there. Is there just like, do they hate game? Because I feel like he's so disrespected by L.A., but so uplifted by New York in other places. So that's why, is it a thing or? I mean, game. I wouldn't ever discredit what he was doing in the Bay and in L.A. before he broke with G-unit, but I mean, why? I think Jimmy even put him with G unit outside of G unit being on fire at the time is that he sounded and rapped like he was from New York. Of course he sounds like he's from L.A. Don't get me wrong.

I get what you're saying. The way his delivery and lyrical content, when he was on clue tapes, if he didn't constantly say where he was from, I wouldn't immediately believe that he wasn't from New York. I think he's even talked about that. He wrapped like he was from New York. And I think that's probably why we all gravitated to him so much. And I think the record that made him pop, per se, was what? The Jim Jones certified G's or whatever? Which I mean, has, yeah, which has L.A. aspects, but he was with Jim Jones when the world was really introduced to him, not just L.A. So I think New York has always had a better appreciation for game than maybe the rest of the country. But I hear you. But if that's the kid,

then Tyler the creator doesn't always sound like he's an LA artist. He does sound like he's an LA artist, but he doesn't always sound like he's an LA artist. He definitely led the newer generation of LA. They call it weird. I wouldn't call it weird, but that separate, like this isn't the stereotypical LA scene. He led that for sure, which is where you get some of the new scene now. But game at the time, L.A. had been non-existent for quite some time. Gaines single-handedly he brought the West Coast back and put a bunch of people on this list, including the number one artist on their first mixtape, on their first tour, Nipsey, everyone. Like, Game not only did that shit by himself, he brought a bunch of people with him.

He wasn't on some selfish. It's just me. Like, I remember game mixtape shit when KDOT was on it. He was meeting with Top with the J-Rock shit. Like, if he's not top five, the only other way he could be was higher. Yeah. Vince State was at number 23 is pissing me off. Let me just go ahead and say it.

He needs to be a lot higher. Say the pillars again? The pillars are skill, like total skill, strength of a catalog, commercial impact and lasting influence. And I think number three might be. The commercial impact is where. Might be what's keeping him. Who has, all right, look at the people ahead of Vince and who has more commercial impact. him. Who has a better

catalog in him? Catalog, you're going to be tough. Schoolboy does have a great catalog. YG does. Yeah. I love Dom Kennedy. He's not above Vince Staples. Someone could argue with commercial appeal

and Vince Staples? Dom has a great catalog. Vince Staples has a great catalog and he has a Netflix show. Fair. That's not commercial. But they're focusing on the rapper. Come on, man. Vince need to be high than that. I appreciate Nipsey being at 10,

outside of him just being above the game, which is kind of nice. If Nipsey does not pass, is he at number 10? Lasting influence, I fully understand. Let's deal with what's tangible. I mean, over game is insanity. But even over YG? Game?

Nipsey. Respectfully. Y'all got to go to L.A. in a couple days. I'm not suggesting that Nipsey does not belong on this list whatsoever. He has hit every criteria there, but I don't know if against YG with everything, if we're going off what they said, not off what the allure of everything is to the public. So we've had this conversation before when people say that Jay-Z wouldn't be Jay-Z if Biggie

had never died, but we'll never know because Biggie died, right? So we'll never know if people would have, if the mass majority of America would have noticed how talented Nipsey was because he was severely underwerexie was severely underwerex. rated before he passed. We don't know if they would have eventually figured that out. They could have eventually figured that out. He could have had a hit that went off. Everybody went back to his catalog and said,

oh my God, Nipsey has been one of the greatest for so long. That could have happened. Or he could have continued to be underrated. We will never know because he did die. Of course. And let me be clear, I think the Victory Lap album was the one that was going to start his rise. I think that's when he finally got the commercial recognition that he deserved.

He was about to be the intro of a Caled album. like yeah Nipsey was on his way for sure I'm not saying because he passed that's when everyone started to give a fuck whatsoever I'm not saying that whatsoever but over somebody like game and YG

by those criteria is a little crazy to me even schoolboy if we're gonna get into it as far as the older acts I saw a punch tweet something I wish they do it in eras I agree with them because it is very tough

to compare corrupt to Vince Staples it's just completely different times And like it's odd. I don't even know how you would go about this. I also don't even know how you put a list like this together to begin with, but, you know. Chat GBT, GBT. You know how to put it together, man.

If we're going off skill alone, the fact that blue is at 49 is insane. The fact that crooked eyes at 46 is nuts. Will I am, I think most of his impact did not come from anything rap-related whatsoever. I thought Rastcast was from the Bay. I don't know. I could be wrong. I don't know what they're doing with this list. Dragio the ruler, for impact, everyone in L.A. wraps like him.

You could make a case that he could be a little higher when it comes to impact. L.A. going to kick our ass because they probably going to be like, no, you're wrong. You're fucking wrong. All of L.A. was saying they were wrong. I mean, shit. Game, game included. Then game put his own list together? Game did put his own list together. I love game.

Which is such a game. thing to do and I appreciate when game does stuff like that. They got game outside the top 10 which is crazy. Yeah, I don't that's why I'm saying like it feels disrespectful and that's why I'm wondering if there's like an underlying issue. Before we get to games,

is it weird that Tupac is left off when people like Ice T, I see. Icy corrupt who's from Philly but of course moved to L.A. and that's where he made his career. Exhibit is from like Detroit and New Mexico like literally not

from L.A. whatsoever. She's from Albuquerque, right? Like, when you have people like that on there, but then say Tupac isn't there, I can see why that would upset people, even though Tupac maybe lived in L.A. for like, I think I've lived in L.A. longer than Tupac did. Like, I've stayed at the Mondrian longer.

And I always felt like Tupac, if he was claiming the West Coast, was more the Bay than he was Los Angeles. So they talked about that as well. in the article. They said that putting this list together wasn't easy. L.A. is a transplant town. So what qualifies someone as an L.A. rapper?

They said, for this list, it's an artist who creatively came to life in the city and reflects its ethos and their music. That's why some big names didn't make the cut. Tupac may seem like an L.A. rapper, but he only lived in the city for a couple months. Although he had some big hits under the DeFro banner, he was a fully formed platinum

selling artist by the time California love came out. So I think why they left some transplants on there and not Tupac is it because Tupac was already a fully formed artist before he moved to L.A., whereas the rest of them came up in L.A. So I feel like that's fair. I'm not terribly mad at that. And again, if it was California, I'd be fine with Pock there because he spent so much time in the Bay and that's where he started. His rap career, for real, was in Oakland, Marin County. So, all right, I'm not mad at Complace. That's not why they left Pac off the list. Why? His first rap name was MC New York.

That's true. You can't have a rap on your top LA list of all time and his first rap name was MC New York. Yeah. Okay, but all right. It can't do that. Just because you had a nickname like, find me the vinyl press of the MC New York record.

Like, yeah, that was a thing he said. Somebody, he said that in his head when he got to Baltimore. Like, that doesn't mean that was your rap name. I mean, you can't find an MC New York song. So now you're saying, now you're telling Tupac what his rap name was. See, that's what you white people do. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. I'm fully, I fully disagreed with what his mother was doing and everything. Like, I'm just saying, his, he said his rap name was MC New York. Yeah, but you can have a name. Just because you can't go

find a vinyl with two-pots. Because he didn't recording music under that. Exactly. But I'm just saying that maybe that might be while complex was like, no, we can't do that. Okay, but based off what they're saying about exhibit, um, corrupt. Yes, those guys moved to LA and that is what started their rap career. I'm sure Corrupt was rapping when he was in Philly when he was a kid, but you can't find those. So I'm fine with that criteria. Tupac got to the bay, got with Digital Underground, and was Tupac. He wasn't MC New York with Digital Underground. He was Tupac. So I don't think it's because that was his name. I think it was because he really honestly spent like six months in L.A. He wasn't like really there. He was with a gang from there.

Where is he from? I think Pac is one of those hybrids that just moved around. That's one of those people you can't really say where they were from. I think that's why he's like, not like click-hopped, but he did. Yeah, I don't think he ever really had a place that he could call home. That's why he rode for death row so much because he finally found a group of people that he could like also had his back. He went from New York to Baltimore to fucking Marin to Oakland, then to jail, then

to fucking L.A. and Vegas. I think that was just his mentality. He was with different gangs. He just, he'd never had a place that he could call home. I mean, these lists are always interesting though because, you know, just hearing the conversations going on

around the people that's on it, people that maybe should have been on there. But this is very, very tricky, only because, again, you say L.A. rappers and a lot of these rappers are not from L.A., California, yes. But I like these types of things too

Because it also, you know, you get to hear what people think And you know, they start throwing names out there That should have been on the list Sugar Free at 18 I was just laughing at that Only because I didn't expect them to have sugar free So high But I'm a sugar free fan

I mean That's just me though But I respect them having them at 18 What would be your top five Before we get to games Before we get the game? Yeah To his list

Oh, top five L.A.? Mm-hmm Um, Cube, game, Kendrick, Knit, um, we're at four. That's four. Mm-hmm. And this is your personal? I said Snoop, right? No, Snoop. Oh, you didn't say Snoop.

Okay. So Snoop game, Kendrick, Dre, Knit. Mm-hmm. Okay. No, he didn't say Dre. No, not Dre. Cube, Kendrick, Game. Nip.

Knip. Snoop. Okay, Cube, I'm sorry. Not, yeah. Okay. Yeah, Ice Cube is, Ice Cube might be my favorite rapper. I was gonna say Ice Cube is one of your favorite rappers.

I know that. Yeah, like, I mean, just growing up, Cube was, you know, a lot of people don't, don't really, you know, remember Ice Cube before television and film. Ice Cube was, you know, you go back to his early stuff. he was a super problem.

But obviously they got it right. They got him top three, so I'm not mad at that. Yeah, I mean, I kind of have an issue with Snoop Dog not being number one, no matter like what, if you're going off all those pillars. Like, Snoop is the most famous rapper that's ever existed. Like you could argue nobody's had more impact, period, than Snoop Dog. So to me, even though I've even given Snoop's discography some flak because there's just a lot of albums and a lot of them don't really hit the mark,

could you not say Snoop is the number one LA rapper? I think he would have been before, obviously, last year. Okay. They might have had Snoop number one. But, I mean, obviously last year happened. So now anything coming out of LA, West Coast, California, you're talking about rap is obviously Kendrick is going to be the number one on the list. I have Snoop.

And we're counting Dre, not with the pen thing here. I would go Snoop. It flip-flop between Cube and Kendrick for me. That's a two-three. Then Dre and then Game. that would be my five Drey your top five If we're not counting that he

Doesn't write Oh If we're just going off I mean if you count that Then of course Well that's that's a big part of it though Rappers Like you can't have a rappers

Listen and somebody mean your top five And they don't write Like that's What are we talking about? Listen I've said that from the beginning But I hear you Yeah like you know If you're not writing your rhymes

Like you can't be top five I just Okay then Snoop Snoop Cube Kendrick game Tyler Tyler Tyler's he a top five if we're going off all the pillars

impact and lasting catalog everything yeah that's a I would yeah Tyler's there like even if it does even if it sounds weird if you look at everything on paper how would he not be there impact down to the festivals in the city like he clothing all of that

yes he Tyler is is amazing what he's doing is amazing I'm just when you say top five rappers from California or LL Like, no, all the pillars, all the pillars. No, if we were going off of skills, I got crook in blue, like in my top five. Yeah, I got a, I just got, I don't know, like, I love Talley's dope, but, you know, top five is like, whoa, like, okay.

I just, I'd love to be a fly on the wall for these types of conversations. No input, no nothing, just to see how they put it together. Like, how did you guys debate Doja Cat and Das at 20? Like, both incredible, but like, how do you even get to that? How does that debate happen? Like, all right, cool. Let's go through their catalogs and see who's 27, who's 26.

We got, we got, do we have Tygo over Doja Camp? Not me. If we're going off the pillars? No. I know how I feel about Doja. If we're going off the pillars, man, you know I love saying, Tiger don't miss. If we're going off the pillars,

Doja and Tiger should be a little higher on this. Doja should definitely be higher. Her pen is crazy. She has the records. She has the impact. commercial success. Can we not say the same about Tiger, though? I know it's fun to make fun of him.

That's what I'm saying. But as Tiger never not had a hit. Yeah, but I'm- Tiger ain't never had a not hit. I'm not saying his catalog, per se, as far as albums. So that's what I'm saying. Like, you're talking about catalogs. I'm talking like albums.

Like, nobody's, I'm not listening to a Tiger album. I might play a Tiger record, a song, but I'm not playing a Tiger album. But you got, Tiger have an album and the shit have had five good singles on it. Like singles and they're hit. And I loved his first album, no introduction, when he was rapping like Jim Class Heroes.

Still love that album. When he's putting the lime and the coconut. I'm gonna keep it on it. I don't think I've ever listened to a Tiger album. Because he just had so many hits you never needed to. Yeah. You never needed to. It was five on the charts at the time.

He had an EP on the charts every year. How many albums is Tiger put up? I have no clue. See, we gotta start asking them type of questions. He has eight albums. Eight albums? Yes, eight albums. Not to count what I think,

could be deemed a era classic fan of a fan with Chris Brown could be a mid-2000 classic to me fan of a fan is a classic for us young millennials that's that's a great fucking mixed date yeah see I was just listening to other shit that's what it was what you was listening to and what was that 2010 2015 20 what was the original one it had to been before then yeah I was gonna say this is fan of the fan that I said I'm looking on wikipedia I'm like I was in high school when the real fan Oh, fan of a fan mixtape came out in 2010

Okay, that's what I thought Then there was Fan of a fan album Which I'm not even sure what's on this Yeah, I don't know that either But fan of a fan mixtape was that shit 2010? Yeah, no, I wasn't listening You wasn't listening to Duce's in 2010?

Deuces, yeah Yeah, that mixtape like doesn't have a skip It's not just deuses He was probably listening to watch the throne I'll repeat like the rest of us as well 2010, no, it was just a lot of Ross Oh, it was a lot of Ross. Oh, it was a lot of

You know what I'm saying? It was, I was... Yeah, Ross, Ross was... It was other shit going on. I couldn't... I didn't make it the fan of a fan. Did no ceilings come out, 2010? That was 09.

But 2010 had a... Thank me later was then. Meek was on fire. What was that first Dream Chasers mixtape with the big Sean Burn right? Yeah, it was just a different energy. It was definitely an MMG year for sure. Yeah, I was listening to some different shit.

I didn't get to a fan of a fan. Oh, like a virgin again. No, that fan of a fan mixtape was it. All right, well, let's quickly get to games. I appreciate that he was pissed about this. And he's been quiet lately when we thought he was going to say something. So I know game has just been pacing around the house and couldn't just let this go. He has Tupac at number one, snoop number two, Ice Cube 3, Kendrick 4, Game 5, corrupt 6, DJ Quick at 7, Dr. Dre at 8, EZE at 9, Exhibit at 10.

and so on and so forth. We don't have to go through the entire thing. I like that he added Mr. Capone onto his list, which I think complex should have a lot of the Latino community boycotting outside of their offices. Mr. Capone, I know you guys don't give a fuck about, but that's like the fucking Nause of Chicano rep. Like, if you're going to talk about L.A.,

he was a huge part of that city. The fact that he even make the, the fact that you guys put blueface on there and not him, when talking about impact of L.A. Mr. Capone could be in the top 15. Like, he solidified a genre out there. Top 15? Yeah.

Okay. So I appreciate that game added him there. Hey, he put reason there. He has reason on the top 100? He has reason at 81. I feel like 100, like, why do even do that? Like, once you get to Blueface for Fit, like, why do we do we need that?

I understand. I think he was trying to like, you know, not be nice, but he was trying to pay respects to his city and the artist that he might feel are getting left out that he loves. I respect that he did that because 100 takes a lot of time. So for him to even take the time to do this. Well, I think it's like, like Punch had tweeted. I think that game was trying to cover like errors.

He was trying to include like a lot of the newer guys. which is dope. What newer low-key guys other than reason? Does he have on there? I'm gonna be honest, I can't even read that shit. I get, I can't. I don't know why he put that shit that red right now. Well, no, he went on and broke it down into the

25 so you can read it better. As far as new rappers, I think that might, no, he has A-Z on there. He has A-Z on there. He has A-Z on there. So to me, like, that's where a hundred's not needed, because we don't even know what their careers are going to be yet. So, like, I just think it's kind of unnecessary.

I respect it, though, but, like, you know, West Side Boogie at 62, great, but he still has a full career ahead of him. Kid Ink, Kid, Inc, got some love. I love that. 54, let's not act like Kid Inc. Didn't have a run. He has Ray Vaughan over West Side Boogie? No. Oh, God, I hope not. What did you just say West Side was?

62. Rayvonne is 60. All right, game. That must have been personal. There's no like, come on. There's no way. He has blue face over West Side Buggy. That's, which is, they must really fuck with blue.

They must really fuck with blue. Yeah, this is kind of, that's nuts to have that there. Maybe I don't know Blueface's catalog, like I said. I don't, you know, maybe I'm not aware. I love bust down, Tatiana. That's my shit, but I don't. That's one song. No, that's what I'm saying.

I'm not familiar with his catalog. There's four remixes to it. You forgot about that. All right. Fuck all out. What time is the New York list drive? Are y'all making it? Hell.

We can't trust Complex to make it. Complex going to have. Hey, I'm sure it's done. It's about to go out today, I'm sure. B.D. You know, B.D.I. was home. He had his du rack tied extra tight. Oh, yeah. You know, he was sick when that L.A. list came out.

You know, he wanted to make that list. Anytime a list come out, B.D. I got to be mad. He got to be heated. But why, though? Because Complex is, see, I think that's unfair if he feels that way, because Complex was doing the list shit before B. That was. That's how Complex really.

That's how complex really popped was them doing like the 23 Jordans of 2023. Like they would just find anything at some. To list it. Just list. Everything was a list. So this is complex of shit. But I, you know. That New York list going to be interesting though.

That's going to be interesting. I'm curious how they break it up. That's going to be. Yo, can you stop laughing? No, man, because, see, you know, L.A., when you talk about the L.A. list, like, respectfully because I'm not from. LA. I look at it, but it's good to see people like games. Somebody's from the West Coast and, you know, an artist. It's good to see them make a list because they grew up in the

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on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. I'm just saying, there's going to be some names on that list, but we're going to have to sit here and do what we're doing right now. But like, all right, enough is enough. Well, since we know it's coming, put yours together now, because I know it's going to take you a while. Put yours together now so that when they drop theirs, we'll drop ours.

We can do our top five. But before we get there, why is Childish Gambino at 32? He's from Atlanta, and has always been from Atlanta. I don't even know if he's ever lived in Los Angeles. He's from Stone Mountain, Georgia. He has a show called Atlanta Is he on games? He has multiple mixtapes called Stone Mountain.

He's number 32, Childish Gambito. On games or complexes. Games. And I want to say Baby Kim at 38 over West Side Boogie is... See what I'm saying? Baby Kim at 38 is crazy. Say it. Yeah, it's just, again, man.

I'm not from the West Coast, so I'm not going to go as hard on that list. But Baby King... Do you have an album out? He has one project out that was years ago, which was cool. I wasn't mad at it, but it wasn't like... One album don't get you top 30. No, 32? No, 32.

38. 38. 38. But again, Westside boogie is at 62. Yeah. Boogie is rapping better than fucking... And again, what are they playing with my boy bug? I don't like that either.

I don't like that whatsoever. I like that MERS got love on both these lists. Shut out the MERS. He should be able to. a little higher. If you go through MERS catalog, it's top 10 catalog in the West, in my personal opinion. I'm mad at that. But

let's do our top five. Should we do what we think Complex is going to do? Top five, New York? Complex is going to do top five New York. One, JZ, two, Nause, three, Nicky Minaj, four. Oh, let's write,

Josh, write these down for DeMaris's prediction. For Complex? Yeah. I don't know who they will put at four. I'm trying to think of who they would put in that spot. You know exactly who they're going to put at four. Who they're going to put at four? Party. No, they might do.

They might do it's complex. Oh, complex. Some niggas will put A.S. They might put him at one. They made you top one rappers of New York City, A sap Rocky. Damn. Would they do? Featuring Clams Casasie.

Would they do Jada Kiss for four? If you think Jada Kiss is making top four on a complex list of you. I don't know. I think the podcast now, the podcast might help. That's what complex respected. That's what got him at. That's what putting it over the head. It's like, that's so disrespectful. Nah, you see he has four episodes.

So disrespectful. And then L.L. Cool J. L.L. is not making a top five complex. They got to do one like old school one to them who they think is old school. They got to do one. Nyes is old school. True. No, but we got like 80s type shit.

Yeah. Okay. Since they had exhibit on the LA one, they have to have people from Long Island, right? I want to go similar to D. Maris's, I think J. Z. Nas, Nikki is going to be the three. I think that's going to be the... They might put Jay Z. Nicky, Nass. I ain't a lie. There's no way. Let's put ourselves in the writers room.

You're trying to give me an also. Let's put ourselves in the writers' room. room. I can see them putting Nikki at three to stir up some controversy, or I can see them putting Nikki at like 18 to really piss the barbs off. I'm not saying Nicky deserves to be at 18. No, but they're not going to do it. That's too much of a stretch. They're not going to do that. She's going to be top. That's too much of a stretch. Let's say at least top 10. She's going to be top 10 for sure. Okay, this is my prediction. Jay Z at one, Naz at two, Nikki at three, Biggie at four. Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah. Rock Kim at five. So Jay Z at one,

Wait, wait, wait, wait, you forgot big? Biggie at one, Biggie at two, Nikki at three, Nause at four. I don't know we're allowed to change. Once the list comes out, I'm going to change mine. You ain't even have big time. Ja Rule at five. I could see them putting Biggie lower, again,

to cause controversy and write like, you know, we only had two albums type shit. I could see that happening. That's a very complex thing to do, is to put Biggie at like nine. They're going to put Pock on there. MC New York. They got put pocket in there.

Hasn't Complex done something like this, though, already? I'm sure they have. Oh, this was, all right, this was August of 2023. But I feel like they'll redo it just because the LA one went off. I feel like, yeah, I feel like we talked about one in 23. Yeah, we did. Because I feel like the Nicky. Every year.

Every year they shuffled a list. This is August of 23. Jayzy at one, Biggie at two, Naz at three, Rakim at four, LL at five. then goes 650 7 Nikki Minaj 8 DMX I remember us being pissed

and I Spice made the list 9 Buster Rhyams 10 Kariass 1 yeah I do remember talking about this list but I can see them redoing one I'm glad LL was on it Top 5 What number was Nicky again?

7 7 7 was I said she's top 10 for sure All right if they redo it what's your prediction for the 5 has to be different than the 1 Prediction or just my 5

not prediction for complex Jayne Knaz Big I think they keep it the same L.L.R.M. Okay. And they've also done

an L.A. one before so I definitely think they're going to do another New York one. What do you think their Atlanta one would be? Um what would the Atlanta be? Future Um,

Thug GZ Gucci They're gonna have Gucci at one They don't play about fucking Gucci And maybe 3,000 Okay I'm gonna go

Future at 1 For Complex Andre at 2 Ti at 3 Thug at 4 GZ at 5 But also GZ isn't really from Atlanta I don't know how it works

But Complex doesn't care Complex doesn't care Neither do we Demaris, you're Atlanta one, and then we can move on. My Atlanta one is for what complex, what I think complex will say. I think complex is going to go future at one, T.I. at two. Lotto at three. Wait, what?

This is what complex. Remember what we're talking about? A lot, man, all right. Lotto at three. Thug at four, Gucci at five. Lotto at three is hilarious. All right. Well, thank you, Complex for always stirring up nonsense when we don't even need it. But with that said, the diamonds look like pee-pee.

You hate off, man. Me? Why? Yeah, you. Iso. What am I hating on? Clips? Nah. Record is hard. You can't hate on the clips. Yeah, whoever hated on the clips? Who did that?

I mean, I'm sure all the OVO communities have been doing that. H.O.C.C. I'm sure they have. Man, you can't do it on the clips, right? The Ace Trump is the song is hard I like that shit Produced by Farrell The production is crazy

That's one of those I want to hear Like I want to hear a few rappers Take that and do something to that Yeah that would be If this was still the freestyle era There'd be 20 radio freestyles right now Yeah Over that shit

They've been asking us to get on it Who's us? Me and Rory Who's asking for that? They have Who is they? You gotta stop saying that Who?

The new Rory of Marlin Man, ain't nobody asking for that shit Man To play off of our thing that we did when we impersonated when we impersonated pusher. Oh my God.

They've been asking for us to jump on. So, Roy, we gotta. We do that this week. Yeah. No, yeah, I don't happen. Because ballerina's doing pirouettes inside my snow globe

is something I would have said. No, that's not nothing you would have said. It's absolutely nothing. You've never said that. You've never said nothing close to that. When I heard, when I heard Nause rewind, I was like,

oh, I would have done that too. Like, no, what was the matter's talking about I would have said. You've never said anything closer. I would have approached the PSA beat the same way, Jayee. Yeah. Like, what are y'all talking about? I'm just saying that's something I would have said.

That bar is crazy. Malice went fucking off on this record. Niggas is my sons and that's on repeat. Definitely something I would have said. But yeah, malice went crazy. And he didn't curse to him entire time. He's bringing real hip hop back. Real hip hop.

Okay. I feel like they even cursed them rappers to the light. Only Will Smith didn't curse in his rapes. Broken vows everywhere. That's explicit content for sure. Yeah, no, that was crazy back in the day. You're talking about Snow Glove shit too, for sure. I really love the record.

I was a little nervous with the whole Chad and Farrell thing. Of course, we know Farrell has produced plenty of shit by himself, but that was a thing coming up to this. Like, all right, we're getting a Farrell-produced clips album again, but there is no Chad involved in this. I'm not mad so far. He's one-for-one. Farrell is probably the best.

Him and Swizz are the best at making the most simple. simplistic beats sound incredible. Yeah, the production on this, on this record is, is incredible. Like, I like this record a lot. I like the approach and pockets that they both picked. I'm really, really excited for this album. What's your favorite lyric or your favorite bar? It's the Snow Globe shit for sure.

But the Alibaba to the Lady Gaga shit was insane to me too. I mean, people on the line saying Malice, he got push on this one. But that's not, I mean, Push got way better post the clips with his solo career. Malice was always nice. But let's not act like back in the day. No one was ever discrediting Push as a rapper,

but Malice was always like the one. Push would get him a few times, but I feel like Push has even admitted that his brother was the better rapper. Push just got much better with his solo career. So I'm really excited to see this one. But I feel like Malice got push on his last solo project. That malice verse was one of my favorite verses of that year.

Yeah. It was 22 or whatever. Malice is malice, though. No, no, no. Listen, I'm very aware of the clips, one of my favorite groups. And this, you know, production with Farrell is definitely, you know, it's good to see them still working together. And then the thing I'm most impressed of is how long they've been at it and how good they still sound. Like, that's it.

To me, that's like, you know, when they say this rap is a young man's sport. To a degree, yes. But when you have, you know, the clips and Farrell still able to deliver and give us joints that sound like this, and they know, to me, it's no real, it's no young, no Y-Ns can't give us this sound. They can't give us this talk. They can't, they're not even this clever or this, this witty in their, in their bars and the entendres and things like that. Like, this is the type of rap that, you know, a certain sector I think appreciate.

in the community. You got to learn how to read. You got to learn how to read. You got to learn how to travel. And you got to learn how to different people. Drug dealing takes matter. You learn how. No, but this isn't, I'm talking about rapping.

It's not just about, they're not just rapping about drugs. They had to have read books, seen things, experience things for your vocabulary to open up this wide for you to be able to make references about things from other countries. And yeah, you got to travel. You got to make money. You got to read. And even if you don't have the money, you got to read about the places that you can't travel.

reading is fundamental and these new rappers don't fucking read. They can't read. They can't even talk. Have you heard some of these new artists like in the interview? Like yo, you film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me. Like, yo, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, film me, bro, bro, bro, bro. This is a female you're sitting across from. It's a woman, you know, feel me, bro, bro, bro, bro, you know what I'm saying, bro, bro, bro. Not mean, time I...

What? Time my... Get your dumb ass up, man. Shut up. But that's because they're on the drugs. They're not selling the drugs. They're not selling the drugs. They're on drugs. They're selling drugs. They're on the drugs.

They're selling more drugs than they're on. They're friends selling them back. They're just doing like drug fucking switches. Drug musical chairs. Let me hold that pill I just sold you. Same way. Can I hold that chain for this video? Yeah.

Let me get just two of the perks to hold. Give me those two perks I just sold you. And I mean, labels don't even have the staff to do media training. That's been done. Remember when they used to get Fab a lot of bullshit? Like, Fab wasn't media train. He's not good at interviews. The Fab smokes.

Looks like Einstein compared to it. It's bad. It's bad. Like, they, I'm talking about. He's Neil deGrasse Tyson compared to these. Yeah, like these new artists, these young cats, they, I mean, it's just like, my God. Like, you can't even hold a conversation. It's sad.

But, you know, it's good to hit a clip, still in shape. I'm looking forward to him. What else they got on this project? If it sounds anything like this Ace trumpet's joint, then, you know, this is going to be a good listen for me. Like, I appreciate this type of nostalgia and this type of attention to detail

when you talk about rapping. I appreciate this. And I feel like push, malice, and Ross, even though there's a million entendras in this Ace of Trumpets record, those three rappers to me are the best at saying very simple things and delivering it in a way that sounds so amazing. Soho Shopping Spree, you should have seen it. It's not even that crazy, but I was, I'm like, I was just on Broadway, how I missed that shit?

Yeah, them and Drake does that really well. You should have seen it. How do you deliver it that good? Ross be saying some really basic shit, but it sounds better than all of your favorite rappers when they do complex shit. Pushing, Malice, and Ross are masters at this type of shit. Very simple delivery.

You catch every word. You may not catch the entendre. but you catch every single syllable word. It all sounds amazing. The delivery and rap is very important. Like push as an elite MC still, where were you and Big Meach brought to Tigers? Like he has more memorable stuff like that on top of his entendres

that separates him to me from everyone else. Like they're not doing rapdy rap rap rap rap. They found a very specific fun, fun pocket. A fun pocket that a lot of people could fuck up. Yeah. Like that could get tiresome for 30 to. bars. They are masters at that type of shit. But see, that's why, going back to

Ross is too at that. Going back to when we were talking about our complex list and they said skill and the majority of the pillars of skill, only one of them was actual pin. The rest of it was delivery. The way that you break it down. Like, that's a very, very important thing. Easy has one of the best deliveries ever. Even Dre's delivery is incredible. That fucking horrible line. If I slip, then I slip,

then I'm slipping. I'm still slipping. Awful fucking bar. Delivered incredibly. That shit hit back in the day, though I ain't going on. It still hits now. Still hits now. And if I got my knee and then you know him shit, and I'm going to continue to put the rack down, put the Mac down. Snoop's fan was crazy.

It's your shit. Spish shit, ma'am. I did see we spoke last episode that there was rumblings about a Kendrick verse from before. And then we thought because of the Rock Nation situation that they may have a Jay-Z verse. I saw that Stove God tweeted that, he is on the album. We know there's only two features. So I do not think we're getting a JZ feature on this. I believe it is Stove God, which is confirmed. And I think that Kendrick feature from Chains and Whips, when they did the Louis Vuitton fashion show that like Jim Jones disc,

that was the one that Kendrick was rumored to be on. And then we never heard anything from it. Pushit, went and did an interview and said that they wanted to put this out last year. but when they brought it to Def Jam, this was right after the Drake and Kendrick Beef, and they wanted Kendrick to, more or less, censor his verse because of everything that was going on. Push said, fuck that. They got into some legality shit,

which led to the clips getting off Def Jam as well as Pusha T getting off Def Jam because of this entire thing, and they were able to shop it around, and that's why there was a delay. Now, I'm sure there's always a bunch of different things behind the scenes that added to this. But that is kind of fucking insane.

Yeah. And according to push for this article, I believe the bar isn't even that crazy from Kedrick. Therapy taught me how to open up. It also showed me I don't give a fuck.

I don't think it was the bars per se that they wanted to censor. I think it was Def Jam saying Drake's two biggest ops are coming together at this exact time to put a record out. Which kind of, I don't know, do you think it contradicts or helps the lawsuit that Drake is going through? Why would it contradict it or help it?

I guess this would be proof that they were aware of his brand and also wanted to protect it in the midst of this entire thing, which could go against it. But couldn't a lawyer also prove that they were very much aware when they said that they support both of their artists? and they would never stop an artist from doing anything. This does contradict what Universal said already. For sure. It does prove what Drake's lawyers were saying. And UMG was like, what? We would never, that's crazy.

We would never get behind an artist. We don't treat any artist with any type of special privileges or anything. Even though this is on Drake's side, it still is proving that that does happen. Yeah. But we know that. Even if this didn't, if this never came out, if Pushing never made any mention of this happen. and we know that that does happen.

I just, I don't know. Pushing to me is not a liar. I just think there has to be more to this than just this sentence. Because why after a record that calls somebody on your label that word, would you be upset about or try to block a clips in Kendrick song

that doesn't talk about Drake whatsoever? Like the damage was done. What was the bar? This wasn't going to do anything. What was the bar? The only bar that they mentioned, um, all right.

Def Jam's Spanran company UMG said the optics of two of Drake's biggest enemies linking on wax. Push calls, their apprehension stupid primarily because none of the bars in Kendrick's otherwise excellent verse could be perceived as a shot or even a sub. It does however contain the stellar line. Therapy taught me how to open up. It also showed me

I don't give a fuck. What? That's fucking stupid. Push it, uh, I actually love the writing in this. Pusher can barely contain his disgust, recounting the stalemate with Def Jam. They wanted me to ask Kendrick to censor his verse, which of course I was never doing.

And then they wanted me to take the record off. And so after a month of not doing so, their lawyer said, well, we'll drop the clips. But they can't do that because I'm still there as a solo artist. If you let us all go, is that out of order. Sure enough, Dev Jam eventually agreed to release the clips and drop Push as a solo artist,

freeing the duo up to shop for a new home with a finished clips album and plenty more music in their pop. pockets. Yeah, I think that was just, I mean, could it be a thing where they just felt like the song wasn't good? That Chains and Whips song was fire. It was premiered at the Louis Vuitton fashion show in Paris. That was the one that Jayze and Beyonce, you could see they was writing lyrics in their head to it. Like, that record is fire. It's like leaked now, the not, you know, the highest version of it, but you can listen to it on YouTube now. And it was rumors at that time

Kendrick was already on it. They just didn't play his verse. in Paris. No, that record is, that record is too far. I just think that that's, I don't, I don't understand any of that. I don't understand why,

what Def Jam would even, I mean, if he's not even mentioning Drake in the, in the verse, why would you even ask push it to have it, to have Kendrick censored? Like, I don't,

because people would assume, no matter what, because of the time it was coming out, people would assume everything in it. Okay, that's fine. People can assume whatever, but for the label to go to push it and say, yo,

like tell Kendrick not, What? Like that just, to me, that's just... Okay. Conspiracy. Did they already have some type of worry that Drake was going to sue them or heard rumblings after the beef that that would happen? And now they're trying to cover their ass because this would be another point, not to say it proves anything, but something you can put in the paperwork of... These are two people that have said very disparaging things about me.

You're now releasing a record they have together and putting money behind it. I could see Drake's lawyers... Right after the beef. It could have been added as a little bit of... byline in the lawsuit. Not to say that that really does anything, I think, in Drake's lawsuit, because it's like, they didn't say anything about them, but I think,

I don't know, does it add more fuel? Like, I feel like major corporations when there's a possibility they could even be sued down to, like, the smallest sample that could be debatable, they're going to say no, just to cover their ass. Like, legal teams, they don't even want to hear the music. They don't even give a fuck

about anything art-related. They're just there to say, no. So I could maybe see that being a thing because they were already heard possible litigation rumors of what was going on. It's like, all right, we really can't do this. Even though I don't think that's really illegal matter. Yeah, I just, I don't know. You know, Dev Jam doing that is just, that's just, that seems a little weird.

That's, no, that's very weird, actually, not a little. That's very weird for them to approach pushing. It just doesn't make no sense. Like, especially if the line, he's not talking about him, not going at him. in any type. It just doesn't make any sense. I mean, but if that's the case, man, like, amazing to get off the label that way? Oh, no. I mean, I'm sure, you know, they're happy about it. You know, like, oh, shit, like, we basically got a free walk. Like, we're out of here.

But it's just, I don't know. It just doesn't make, I feel like it's more to that story. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying what push is saying is false. I just, there has to be more. It has to be more to that. It has to be. That makes no sense to me. Because what are you censoring in the verse? Exactly. That's what I'm saying.

It just, like, I don't know. Maybe he's just trying, not trying to really get into it and, you know, whatever. But that part of the story to me is it has to be more than that. That makes no sense. Well, I mean, between chains and whips, I assume now that they're off Def Jam, that song is definitely coming out with that Kendrick verse. and then we also have the stove god feature so there's our two features

I think there was a I think there's another feature though I think the feature you were alluding to what they were saying when pushy was saying he was saying he's waiting for the feature you saying they think it's a whole feature I think not I think not's

I think a nods verse may be on this album well they kind of alluded to it in this article as well The label loved what they heard except for the Kendrick Lamar guest verse on chains and whips. The final version of the song that Ferell teased at his first LV runway show.

The song Pusha says was the first to come out of their sessions. Don't be fooled by Push's interviews appealing for one last guest verse and the Twitter jokes that he went to a GNX tour date to physically walk Kendrick into the nearest studio. KDOT's homework has been turned in

for a while now. So I think that's still coming out as is, the chains and whips thing. Oh, yeah. And they said there was two features. So a Nas one would be fired, but if they're sticking to that, I think we're only getting stove and Kendra.

This stove got, that feature is going to be, because listen, man, it's not too many that could talk that, you know, that winter talk. That's no white talk like stove. Fucking high, like, I am about to make $100,000 next month. Nah, now you want to be stowed. Now you was, see? I'm about to go crazy flipping. We were calling her Mrs. Stovito.

She got mad. So that was her ex. Like everything. Okay, well, because, yeah, because y'all are making fun of, like, it's funny when y'all you do it from, like, people who aren't from my hometown. Like, that's not funny. But, yeah, I always support Stowe. We about to flip some shit.

Boy, I'm about to make $100,000. I swear to God, I'm about to go crazy. He's about to be the most motivated song all the time. You're about to make $100,000 doing what, lashes? Nope. You about to do 100,000 lashes? She's going to date a drug dealer that buys her the last spot. No.

You know, they can't wait to get that. Buy me my studio. Pay my boo-friend. Pay my boo-friend. Push said he might date our bitch and yank your rib-out. Push is going to do everything for our girl. Date your bitch and pull her rib out. A yank her rib out.

Like, buy her new body. You know, like... Is that what that meant? That's how I interpreted it. Yes. Unless you thought more romantic and he was suggesting, like, Adam and Eve, like they're... Or she do so. now. Or she do so much coke that she just

get real skinny. But I think he meant surgery. Yeah, I don't want that girl that does too much coke that she's skinny now. But we're about to flip a brick. Why, the head is crazy. Back her throat always numb. And dry. Cotton mouth. I'm cool. This stove got... Might buy a bitch some

new hips and yank your rib out. Yeah. Imagine push by your chick's some hips. And then you come home and there's a rib on the counter. Get a body done. I get it. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that stove feature, though. I'm looking forward. forward to that. I got to hear the greasy talk on that. Stove is one of the few that I feel like probably when it comes to that type of talk may be just a little slicker than push in my list.

Oh shit. That's that's you, okay. Yeah. Like if you go and listen to a reasonable drought, like there's not many people that could, I was very impressed by Stovegard on that entire project. Like his, his cleverness, his wittiness when it comes to that type of Again, that certain talk is, I'm not saying he did it, but he was in the house when it happened. I'm not putting nothing on him. I ain't, I'm not doing that because niggas is listening. I'm not saying he did anything, but he may have been around because you can't just talk like that and not have been in close proximity. Yeah.

And the amount of like Coke entendres we've heard over the last 20 years to be able to like really revive that. The genre takes a clever type of person. I feel like I've heard every Coke bar on earth. And then reasonable drought came out. And I was like, oh, what he said? It's what you do after the brick, bitch. I'm Draymond. Niggas don't even talk like.

You can't even. Listen, listen, listen. No, I'm being serious right now. I'm not even trying to cause no jokes and no laughs. It's what you do after the brick, bitch. I'm Draymond. Niggas don't rap. They don't talk like that.

You can't, these rappers are not even, they Wi-Fi, they bandwidth, don't even let them go. that to that. Like, you don't even talk like that. Like, that's, to me, that type of slick, you know, those lines is what separates Stowe from everybody else. But to have him with guys like, you know, malice and push who do that very well, it's just going to be interesting to hear. And, and, and I need to know, rap is etiquette. I need to know if Push and Malice's verse was done first. And after Stowe sent his verse, did they change his head?

They did. They should hope. I'm from a different arrow. There's no way. You're saying that. And I hope so. I hope so. I hope we keeping it.

I think there's a world where stove gets them for sure. I'm saying out of like pushing malice not changed. They probably just going to sit there like that. I hope not. I hope they kept it rat. Keep it wrapped. You know what you handed. Okay.

So as a rapist etiquette. All right. That's rappers etiquette. You can't change your verse after you here. You can't change your verse after I send mine in. Because if I send my verse in and then now the song come out and your bars is different than when I got it, we're going to have a real problem now. It's like, now don't do that.

Don't do that. Like, y'all sent me to record. Y'all bars was done. Y'all say, yo, listen, we done. We just need your joint. I listened to where y'all was going with it. Okay, cool. And I went where I went with it.

And now that the album is out and done, it's like now y'all bars is different. Like, even if it's one or two bars, that's still a problem. You can't say it has to be whatever I heard. It has to be that. Hmm. So I, but I need to know who,

because they could have sent, they could have sent stove the beat with no verses. Okay, so I never did a feature verse So this is new to me But what if I say Wait, hold on, hold on time about it, time on. What? Baby, did we know you never did a feature verse?

Okay, I was just, I'm just saying like I'm J. Cole, 2014, like no features. All right. That's who you are. Yeah, that's who you see yourself in. Yeah, yeah. What I'm saying is What if I was, I mentioned a bitch

that I ain't fucking with no more so I switched the name of the bitch. Is that okay? Not following. You saying, he said, You can't change even one or two lines. Like you can't change nothing. That's the old rules.

Oh no, a name. If you don't want a name in it, that's fine. That's just a name. Okay. You don't want, that's a name drop. That's, no, I'm talking about like a bar. Like, not a name, a bar. Like, it's like either that bar wasn't there or you added something.

That rap is at a kid. You can't do that. Okay. There are plenty of rappers do do it. Of course they do. But I don't, I highly doubt pushing malice do that. But I'm just saying because, again, stove god talks different when it comes to that type of talk so they may have heard something

they even been like oh that was clever like i like the way and they had to put one of those and they and they verse you understand i'm still like it happens like so you're just getting inspired by somebody on a record with like yo that was hard but doesn't that's the longest thing is when rappers have their verse done but just send the feature just the beat then get their shit back and see if they have to redo it because then the feature's never going to know they'll never be the wiser whether you had a verse there or not right but but But I'm with changing if it does fit the song. Like if we're going to both reference things, I think that's fine.

But usually that comes from the artist sending over their verse as well and the feature going off what they already have laid down there. You doing it the other way around. I think that's against rapper etiquette. Yeah. But I'm not mad. They're going to be talking. We know they're going to be talking slick.

Listen. I'm really, I got so excited about that. I'm really, really excited. Like, here's the thing, though. Like, both push and malice have admitted in their, lyrics that they don't know about this new era of drugs. Stove be going crazy with the fentanyl

shit. Like, his shit is happening right now in like the country. Like he's talking about, push your mouths to talk about the fucking crack era and Reagan and all that shit. Nah, he's talking about fucking Biden shit right now. Yeah, absolutely. He's talking about what's coming over the border currently. Yeah, current drugs. That LeVar ball scheme he has on my album is

absolutely insane. I like that. You had to throw that out. Oh, you see him all. the way that's why they pay you do with the way they pay you because you know how to throw that right i'm not gonna give the lavar ball scheme is one of the crazy shits i've ever heard listen i won't give that one away i will say he does stop the beat and say i'm the fentanyl ferricom powder on my fear of gods and i went like this when i heard the shit see why you giving on this type of talk now what does somebody take his shit for it even drop like it's copyrighted already oh right all right paperwork okay and listen you know i viewed this when i saw stove shit clips uh stove god july 11th when the

Clips album comes out. You know, I personally got excited because my shit's coming after that. Let's just get the stove shit higher and higher for one. My shit drop with them. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. I ain't going to lie. I was very, I was very happy when I heard Stove was going to be on this script. I'm ready. I'm ready for them to give the second best rapper out of Syracuse's motherfucking props. Like, I'm, I'm ready for the mainstream to know how good he is. I'm ready for that. It's been a long time coming. Speaking of Lvar Ball.

Stove was some Syracuse? Yeah. How did you... How did you... Where do you miss all the jokes? I thought it was... I don't know. I thought he was from Rochester.

No, he's... That's why... When I say from my hometown, he's from my hometown. I thought he's from Rochester. No. Who's from Rochester? Somebody I listen to...

We don't fuck of Rochester. 38 specials from Rochester. Yes. My man, Eito, ethos from Rochester. Kind of get a mix of. The guys I listened to. I knew... I knew somebody.

I'm like... I kind of threw, I knew that stove was from up, you know. He was up there on the interstate going north. I knew that. From the realest, the realest around, baby. He was from north. Central, Central New York, real niggas. Shout out the stove.

Scarious cities in the whole state up there. Syracuse? Just upstate cities in general are terrifying to me. Rochester might be the scary. Rochester is, well, we don't go over there. We don't go over there. Niagara and Rochester is, I'm cool, bro. Everything the light touches is ours.

that all this shit, we don't go over there, Simba. Like, we cool. Cuse is scary in certain parts, but at least, like, there'll be some, you know, you can go to campus. There's, like, some hope. Yeah. Rochester and Niagara are the scariest places on Earth.

Every city got a scary place, though. No, but the whole city. NCS. Yeah. Like New Haven has Yale, at least. Pistol waving, New Haven. Which is true. Don't fuck Connecticut.

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Listen, inside American soccer with Tom Bogart and Tabram. on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Speaking of LeVar Ball, I'm not here to apologize to Mall because we never said Jello was going to be a superstar. I just think he's probably sort of close to recouping his deal. I think the joint venture was a little aggressive on their part. You can say it, man. All of that shit was bullshit, man.

Oh, I'm fine saying that. All of it, man. Cut it out. But it was, what, $7 million? He kind of blew the opportunity. with the looks that they gave him. When he was doing the lion shit, rolling loud,

the Glorilla thing, you can't say Def Jam fuck this up. Oh, no, they gave him all. They gave him every look. Yeah, they gave him all the past coach. They gave him all of the, you know. NBA, All-Star Weekend. He had every single look.

They gave him every look that every rapper that deserves a look should have. A scorching hot Glorilla, and a great Glorilla verse. Just not on a good song. Yeah. That snippet to what booted up is the name of it. Come on, man.

It's over. It was over when it starts. See, this is why I get mad with y'all, because I say shit before it happens. Y'all look at me like, well, you don't know, Ma, you can't say that. It's the new... This shit was bullshit from the start.

I told you that song was trash. Well, I don't agree there. I don't agree there. You don't listen to that shit. You don't hear it nowhere. They're not playing that record nowhere. It's over. That shit lasted.

You know, Ma. Two weeks on the timeline. No, nobody's talking about that record. It lasted through the All-Star fucking Lions. Like, that was a long time. Where do you be? That was three weeks. That was a couple of months.

All-Star game and fucking the Lions game? Ma, where do you be at? This is, and you say this about a lot of music. And respectfully, because I know you, and I know you don't be nowhere, but in your goddamn house. Yeah. Where do you be like, you don't hear that shit nowhere? It was playing, though. You know what I said.

When I said, when I said, no way, and then was trying to tell you that. And they go out, get booked constantly. Like, do, we play that record every single time. DJ you think DJ drama plays that record? He said in our group chat multiple times when you're saying nobody cared about You're lying you don't play that record And if you do play it you play you just play the hook And get right into something else

That's that timeline shit As opposed to what's all Even the DJs are DJing based on timeline shit Yeah they're adapting Get the fuck out of here with that shit I don't care if you niggas got your phones out Making videos for the timeline What record do they play in full period?

They don't play nothing in full. Even when we liked the era of music they weren't doing that I'm not saying you have to play the record. You didn't get to Prodigy's third verse on Shook One? I'm not saying that. I'm saying that that record, all of that shit was gimmick shit. That whole Jello shit was gimmick shit. Oh, wait, hold on.

We never argued that it wasn't a gimmick. No, but y'all was like, no, this shit is hard. Because it was. Twikers. No, it was not. There's a lot of hard. No, it was gillow. You, Jello.

Be and Jellos conspiring together. Yes, exactly. Y'all was cloud chasing. That shit was trash. That shit was trash. I got zero clout from that record. That shit was trash. You made a swir.

You made a video. You posted a video of your story to that shit. He didn't know. When have you ever seen me post a video period? I don't even do that to my own music. I saw you post a video. I was well-wow. I ain't going to lie.

Yo, Def Jam might have caught one. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. January 3rd, it came out. It lasted to at least the end of March. Early April. And that's a long time for a song from my first time. I'm not going to lie. That shit ain't lasted.

Nobody played that shit in April. He can bounce back from this because we saw Glorilla, who was having quite arguably last year was one of the greatest years ever in music for her. We saw her drop that hot, hot bowl of piss that was that fucking cha-cha-cha shit. And she bounced back and had an amazing. But let's not act like Glorilla didn't already have a better resident. Gelo had that point. Glorilla is a way better artist. She's a way better rapper.

She had the two songs. She had the two hit songs. So she had one more than Jello. But yeah, she only had the two. She had features. Nah, there was more going on from Lola. Tomorrow two and she had the original, her original song. And then Chachy Chah came out.

That's what happened. Everybody was saying her career was over and she bounced back. Yeah, but this is different. This jello shit is out of here. We can wrap this up. We could pack all this, boot it up, pack it up, suit it up, all of that can go. This is just not, come on, let's just be real. It's now we know what this is.

They're chasing something. They chase in the moment. That's all it is. And that's where the music gets fucked up at. When you start signing artists and giving them these advances and giving them all these looks and this stat and third. Bro, nobody wants to hear that shit. That shit going to last for two months.

And then it's like, all right, man. Like, we're not posting that on our timeline no more. It just is what it is. Well, I mean, they just went the Glowrilla record and this booted up shit. It's just shittier versions of the original song. Yeah. Where, like, Glorilla, yes, that Chachachaw shit was awful.

But then you get a yeah, glow. like I don't know if Jello is capable of that we've only seen him be capable of making a shittier version of his hit record he's chasing that same type of yeah it's not yeah man it's not that's not it and what he doesn't understand is that record went off because it was different than what's out right now it sounded different which is why it went off so much

to keep trying to repeat it would not it's not going to hit the same unless you're a phenomenal rapper and he's not a phenomenal rapper and he's not a phenomenal rapper. So, but I kind of want him to win. I don't know. I'm kind of like rooting for him.

I want him to come back with something better. I'm not for anybody black to win. But I'm just saying I'm also be honest and be real with you. That ain't it. That's all. I'm just a consumer.

I love the culture. I love the art. I'm just being out. That's not it, bro. Go back in the lab. Work on your skills set a little bit. Find your true identity. Don't try to find it through the bars

because niggas try to find themselves through their bars. Who I want to be today? No, no, no, no, no, no. You're spitting. Go home, figure out who you are first. Are you a ball player? Is this just a rap?

Just a hustle? Because it's a hustle for a lot of niggas. Is it just a hustle for you? Didn't hustle. I ain't mad at it. But you can't hustle me. I know a hustle when I see a hustle. Who else in history would you say that you've seen try to find themselves through the bars?

Who else tried to find themselves through the... In history. Every rapper. Some would argue Tupac. somewhat argue. I get why you said that because Tupac, when he first came out, it was more fun-loving, more, you know, digital underground was a more fun type of energy vibe. But, I mean, I don't know.

I mean, things happen in Pax's real life that I think caused his energy and demeanor to change through his music. So, I mean, that's not, I can't say, no, I don't agree with Tupac on that. We understand why Pock's energy and demeanor changed in his music. But what do you mean by that question? Hasn't every rapper that's good found themselves through their lyrics? No, for some rappers come into game knowing exactly who they are before they start rapping. Oh, you're saying someone that makes a complete new identity of who they are. Oh, I mean, should.

Almost all rappers have been accused of it. But I don't know if there's been a flat out rapper that's, we know for a fact, this is just a complete different version of you. Have you guys heard? Like a CB4 situation, you're saying? Like that? That's what this jello shit felt like to me. Have you heard?

I'm not, we were never mad at that. It felt like CB4. His MC Gusto. MGK's new song. Have you guys heard that? Yeah. You said yeah? Of course.

Oh no, I'm sorry. I heard the song's only 15 seconds long, right? Oh, you only seen it on time on like me? Yeah. He's at like a car wash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody throws him a mop and he starts, like, what is that shit, man? Yeah.

It's, you know, it's, I mean, it's, difference called cliche oh maybe he's doing like method acting because it's called cliche that's what he's doing demaris he's acting like every boy band every this is UFO this is what's what's nicklishay from 98 degrees 98 degrees this is that one yeah this is in sync this is that jeopardy it's it's not i think it's more like uh 2000's alternative yeah yeah than it is it's like when, like, Bling 1A2 went pop, when, you know, I like it, but it's just, I know what it is. This is going to control TikTok and the younger generation. Like, I don't know, I guess when you see shit like that, can you be mad at an artist if their goal is money and relevance?

I'm not saying that's MGKs. I actually never thought it was. And I'm not even saying he doesn't not like this record, but this is a clear, not even attempt, a success at you. are going to own TikTok for young kids. Well, yeah. I mean, obviously he knows what he's doing. It's called cliche for a reason. I mean, I think he's speaking exactly to what you just said, you know, chasing TikTok, social media.

It's like a parody of a TRL record in 2002. You gonna play it for Amara? No. Good job. Such a smart guy. I'm not. But I mean, I don't know, M.G.K, like, again, I'm sure he would come out and be like, no. I actually liked this song.

Like I grew up on this and MGK and I are probably the same age or around a year difference. I grew up on that type of rock music too. So he can hide behind that part of like, no, this, I really like this stuff. And you've seen me do rock music before. I've talked about it forever. But we know what this is. Yeah.

Down to the video. And how could I be mad at him? If you want to make fucking money and be relevant, you have to do this. You don't have to do this. And that's what we got to get away. No, you do not. You don't have, there's a lot of artists that are not doing that, what you just said. Are they also dating an A-list actress and like really part of the elite Hollywood crowd now?

Yeah, but I mean, even if, even with that, you don't have to chase. MG, first of all, MGK is solidified. He's been in the game. How many years? 2011. Almost 15 years? Yeah. It's a lot of shit MGK does not have to. 2011 was almost 15 years ago?

Yeah, 14. So yeah, an artist like MGK, he don't have to do that. I think that MGK did that making fun of artists that do that. I think that's saying. He's not taking his self serious right here. This is a clear attempt at just, you know, mocking. But I also think he likes the song. Yeah, I think he's having fun.

And maybe there's a world where he was just having fun and the label or his management heard it and was like, I know this was a joke, but this is going to be a smash for kids on TikTok. So just either lean into it or just delete it from your hard drive. Yeah, I can see that happen. I can see that conversation happening. Because there's been plenty of records that we've heard from artists like, I made that as like a joke. Like Nikki said super bass wasn't even supposed to make the album.

She was like, I just like made it. It sounded cool to me. I was great a song. I was never going to put it out. Yeah. That was supposed to be like maybe a deluxe B-side. And it's like one of the biggest songs of our career. That happens often.

So, I mean, we've known MGK to have integrity with his, his music and very hands-on with what goes out. So maybe there's a case where, yeah, he really did like it. But we know what it looks like after that car wash clip. Yeah. But I don't know. I'm not mad at the song. No, I'm not mad at it.

It's not for me, but I'm not mad at it. I get it. I don't know if I'm going to listen to it per se, but I don't know. So you're not going to listen to League of My Own by Jello when it drop. I'll listen to it. I'll check it out and see what he did. But I'm not expecting it to be like. A phenomenal project, anything like that.

The only mistake I'll say that Def Jam did, which maybe they didn't do, was putting Wayne on that remix to keep that song going. A good remix feature would have kept that record going to this day. That was Wayne's fucking DNA all in the original. I know. That's why you didn't need Wayne on it. Yeah. Fucking waste.

You need, no, they needed Wayne on it to kind of stamp, but they was going after the hot boy shit. That whole sound. Yeah. Put young boy on that shit and called it day. Yeah, nah. Well. I told you how that shit wasn't going to last.

Since I owed you an apology, do you owe Cardi an apology? For what? What did I tell? Yo, why y'all keep putting me? What did I say about Cardi now? I know y'all, I know y'all, nigga. What did I say about Cardi now? What did I say?

Okay, well, not an apology. Are you tripling down? Because now after everything that we've been discussing over the past few weeks between her and Stefan Diggs, over the weekend, they did make it official. And everyone knows what making an official means. It means posting on Instagram together. Woo.

They did a whole carous. which at that point, according to social media rules, y'all are not like just talking, having fun. You guys are basically married now. Because you posted a photo on Instagram. Those are the rules.

I don't make them. I'm just saying what the IG rules. You're skipping ahead, though. What am I skipping ahead of? You're skipping what might have prompted that post. You are suggesting when Cardi went on Twitter spaces and replied to offset asking, for alimony, more or less. Spousal support.

Where she then said, I hope you die. Not only die, but die slow. And I want you to think of me when you die. First of all, everybody was sending me the screenshots and me being in that live. Niggas is like, you know, it says like listening. It was like 10 a.m. I had him brush my teeth, wash my ass.

I was getting up in the kitchen to go get something to eat, and I clicked that immediately. And Cardi was screaming in my ear. I sat and listened to the whole thing. Dedication. Dedication to the mess. I only saw the clip that everyone.

one's talking about, which is wild. And I feel like there's a lot of men that wish they could scream that when that happens to them. But, you know, we'd be put on a list. But either way, you think that was a direct response to everything that offset had put in paperwork. I think that that, I think when Stefan posted Cardi, I think it was a show of allegiance and just a show of love and support. I do. Wait, he had an allegiance to all, like, he was neutral at the time, is what you're saying? I think he posted her and show of support after, it was the day after all of that happened. Yes, I do.

Oh, so he posted her first. He posted her first. Oh, I don't follow him. Yes, he posted her first. Okay. What do I owe Cardi an apology for? Roy? No, you don't.

Oh, I'm wondering if you're tribling down based off your theory that, because I actually never thought it would get to this. You didn't think it would? I thought she was having fun and dating. I didn't think it would get to the. almost kissing IG photo because to me that's a relationship by social media rules

y'all don't y'all why y'all don't listen to me they showed up at a fucking nick playoff game court side I told y'all that was a statement you niggas argued me no they're just having fun and they're just going out and they're just doing this I said it was definitely a statement

well yeah obviously well that I mean obviously yeah so why you can't post a picture fucking is one thing all right so Anytime you fucking somebody, you post, can we pull up the photo of them with laying on the boat, almost kissing? This is the photo you post every time you're kind of fucking someone? No, this is the photo.

This is the photo you post when you know that the whole- married men that don't post this. When the whole timeline is talking about you handing a girl a bag of tussie and you got to tell you a famous girlfriend, listen, we got to scrub that from the top of the timeline. We need a new carousel out there in the streets. Show some of the ass, the thigh, and look like we're about to kiss. Let's get off of the ass-shaking party boat. Let's get the party boat out of here. You ain't seen the party boat since this dropped.

Well, this is the party boat that they were on. Yeah, but this is a different side of the party boat. That's the bow. This is the love boat. This is the love boat right here. This is, yo, we love each other. Show Stefan sent to her 80,000 roses. Love.

We got away from the party. Get the party scene out of here. Show the people that I love you. That's what this is. And I mean, cool. Listen, Cardi, have fucking fun. Have fun. that's what she's supposed to do. Have a great time.

Was that offset tweet real or fake if he said, I like the rollout and then spelled it wrong and then had to do the edit version? I have no. I wasn't able to find any support in suites for that. I think it was real. It just might have been old. Oh, okay. I don't know. Or he scrubbed it. I couldn't get confirmation. Well, he gets hacked all the time. We know that. To give... Offsets password is password.

Offset gets hacked biweekly. Anytime something's actually happening, he just gets hacked. To give the people some backstory of what exactly. was going on with the screaming of the spaces if you did not see it. Offset had gave a statement to the Breakfast Club saying that he, the reason he was trying to take Cardi for support post-divorce support or whatever alimony was because she never sees the kids, but she's trying to take him for everything and all types of shit, even though she never has the kids.

And that prompted Cardi to lose her absolute fucking mind and say, nigger, you haven't seen your kids in weeks. I'm always with your kids. and if I'm not with your kids, I'm working. I pay over $50,000 in school, security, daycare, all of this shit for the kids monthly, and you're not helping me. You don't help me pay for the Atlanta house. Like, you don't help me with anything.

But you're trying to put this out as if, like, I don't take care of my fucking kids. And I'm trying to take everything from you. And I think that really prompted her to lose her absolute fucking mind. And that is what prompted that. So she says she's been working. Corey, I think she's, I think the album might actually be coming this year. But yeah. Well, she put a snippet out as well.

She didn't put that out. Oh, who put it out? So she put out, originally, she put out herself kind of singing the lyrics to that song. Something leaked on TikTok where it had a beat to it. And it sounded like a leaked older version of the song. And then they combined her kind of singing those lyrics combined with it. Yeah, like they put that. I saw the final version and thought it was the record.

Yeah. I thought she was on live just playing music. No, no. Yo, the internet is crazy. She just said, she just kind of said the lyrics and they put, somebody got the leaked track and put it together. I liked the lyrics. I'm glad that's not the beat because I've heard that beat from Cardi before.

It was very similar to, I forgot what two records? It sounds like up a little bit. Oh, that maybe was that. Oh, that makes me happy because I did, I thought the lyrics were great for a Cardi record, but the beat I was like, I've heard this a bunch of times from her. I'm glad that's not the beat then. What I'm fine, niggas.

I'm trying to find, niggas. I've been cuffed up too long. Let me remind niggas. Yeah. Me too, Cardi. This fucking star. Let's go. So you admit you've been in a relationship.

Let me remind niggas. You bugging a... Sorry, I'm sorry. I got a little out of character. I'm so sorry. Yes, Cardi, I'm really looking forward to the new project. So you've bet in a relationship. Yeah, Stefan digs.

Let's go. Are you going to find your Stefan this weekend? Hmm? Are you going to find... You hosting. I saw the flyer and everything. Who said I is JK? Yeah, I'm yeah.

You know, I don't know. Everything's up in the air. What do you think her hosting swag is going to be like? Demaris? Yeah. You think she'll grab the mic? Oh, she definitely will get on the mic for sure. If you have above a 3.0 GPA, make some noise.

No, she'll be looking. Demarice going to be focused on the girl. She's going to know what a pretty girl. Oh, you already know. I'm doing it up a dapping up the tins, but it's not going to be a dap. It's going to be a hug. Of all women? all the tens in a party.

But women or men? Women. Okay. Do you think I'm walking up to men ask a hug? Well, not asking. Fire me if I ever do that. I'm not saying asking. I'm not saying asking, but you know, you might walk up to a guy just to say hello.

They would hug you if you walked up and said hello. I'm sure they would. Yeah. I'm okay. I'm sure any drunk guy at a day party would do that. But it would be a liability. Any sober one. But no, I'm trying to find my stuff on.

I'm trying to be on the boat with the bitches. Listen, man. I'm going to just say this, right? let me just get my shit. Happy for Cardi. She's happy. I'm happy. Big Bronx shit.

I support Cardi. Love Cardi. I know that. All I'm saying is when this Stefan Diggs niggas start acting like the Stefan Diggs that we know, we got to have another conversation. Because you think Cardi's airing off set out. When she gets in this nigga Stefan out,

man. Here's the thing. Because that's been your statement the entire time. And Demaris and I, counter to that was, well, she's having fun too. Proof was on the boat. She was dancing with the girls too. We talked about the couple or people that are talking that like the hose. The honeymoon phase is lit. We know that.

I'm not speaking about them. I want to get into my experience too. I have liked the fun girl until like that fun phase ending. Like, why are you acting that fun still? Like, I like that you like the hose, but you liking them way to, like, that was three months ago. We was liking the hose three months ago. I could see that scenario happening. She already knows who he is. And, like, in the past, I've known who that girl is.

But then the behavior never switched. That's not how, see, that's not how it's going to happen. Here's how I think it's going to happen. And I'm not putting this on. I would love to see Cardi and Stefan, you know, whatever they have for themselves, whatever plans they have, I hope all of that happens for them. How I see a plan out is Stefan is going to do what Stefan does. He's going to find somebody that he really likes.

And he's going to keep it away from Cardi. He's going to try to be sneaky with it. And she's going to be like, nigger, why are you being sneaky? You know, we could be honest. We could do all. Like, you can let me know. And that's how that's going to. I don't think it's going to be ugly.

I just think that they're going to be like, yo, listen, we have fun. It was cool. You know, whatever, whatever. We're still friends. I think it's going to be like that. I think that's how to, I don't think it's going to be like a bad split. I just think that Stefan going to find something. That was another flavor the month that he ain't telling Cardi about.

And she's going to be like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to be doing that. well, if you're going to be doing that, just go ahead and do what you doing. Like, I'm bringing the hose to you saying you could do it here in front of me and then you sneaking off going to motherfucking to the Maldives with a bitch. Like, I'm Cardi B at the end of the day. We can't do that. And then that says a man, like when you try to like make logical sense in the argument.

Like, you knew who I was. You was cool with that. Yeah. I didn't know. When did it happen that that wasn't okay. Yeah, when you start liking somebody away from the fun. You can't have fun with somebody. Like, you can't take the girl from the party and then like,

have a private like nah you can't do that where do we think uh cardy ends up in the robert craft michael reuben circle well she was already at the um super bowl on stage at uh it wasn't the you know obviously the game but she was a few years ago she was at the super bowl's uh festivities on stage with robert craft so she has a somewhat i guess a little relationship there already before stephan she was she was a part of the patriots family before stephan Dix. That's going to be tough. Damn, Cardi's going to be knocking off the checklist.

Already pissing offset off. She's going to be... Well, he's going to be pissed off. Of course. That's a baby father shit. You know that. But the season is starting, so it's already June. August, September is coming.

She will be in that box with Robert Kraft and Meek Mill. Who gets more attention at the game? Cardi B or Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift. Taylor. Cardi B would have been going to say Taylor Swift. I don't know, man. Cardi start twirking in that booth, that skybox.

I think because it'll be different. Taylor's been at all the NFL games. So now Cardi would be a new, it's a new face. It's a new face. We don't see. Taylor Swift had five-year-old girls watching, like, football with their dads just to see a glimpse of her in the corner. No, I know Taylor Swift is Taylor Swift, but I'm just saying.

Cardi going to look good in that skybox, man. Pray for offset is all I can say. He's going to do the bob with the pants suit. She's going to show up real professional. She's going to look real good in that. And I'm telling you she's going to piss Nikki off when Meek is at every Patriot game too. Well, come to see me this weekend because I'm looking for my Stefan Diggs. I'm just letting y'all know.

You don't need a Stefan Diggs. I need to have fun. I have been, I am a serial fucking monogamous and I'm over it. I learned, guys, by the way. You know what we'll talk about this on our next episode. It sounds like you about to become a hoe. That's what you. That's what you think.

She said, I'm a serious. Once they say, I am a serial monogamous and I am sick of it. That means the wrong nigga about the hit. You see insecure with Issa Rae. She's all fucking the weed dealer. They said, Dan, you gave him some pussy? Yeah. Neighbors. Baby Dee.

Be careful, is all I'm saying. We're going to talk about it on the next episode because it is a more serious conversation that I do want to have. I came to self-realization. But just don't let the wrong nigga hit is all I'm saying. Don't let the, you know what I mean? I'm not with anybody that I've already slept with. So obviously the wrong niggas have already hit. No, no, no.

See, don't do that. Don't do that. You know what I mean. I'm talking about when don't. You don't want to look back on this time and be like, yo, why y'all didn't, because that's, you love to do that. Why y'all didn't tell me I was buging out? I'm telling you, don't bug out.

I'm telling you, before you bug out, do not bug out. Yeah, there's a way to hoe correctly. That's all. I'm not, we'll talk about that in the next episode. I'm not hoeing, though. Well, this was fun. We have a long week of recording, because we have a lot of shit to do this weekend.

Yes. If you want to see me this weekend, buy tickets to burgers and bottles, they're in my bio, because I am hosting. and I'll be looking good as shit and I'll be wearing my baby D merch that might or might not be coming out of song.

Are they giving you a microphone? Yeah, why? I'm really tight that we won't be there. Can I stream it? You're going to be working. Can I stream? I know, but while we're working, I'll just have my phone like this. During an interview?

So Peach told me, it's so funny. Peach was like, you should have got a streaming backpack and you should be streaming everywhere you go. And I'm like, I would have done that if I would have thought about it in advance It's good streaming backpacks are what piece. We were looking at them like $2,000. Yeah, they're expensive.

Yeah. Yeah, those are a lot. But, I mean, I don't know. Tell the burgers and bottles guys about it. Split it. Maybe. Put it on your router. You guys excited for...

It's a crazy rider. Not Costa Migos, I need a streamer pack. But like every event you do too. So now you got like 20 of them. Well, this was fun. Let's get out of here because we have some shit to do. Yes, we do. Busy week ahead.

We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.