New Rory & MAL - Episode 377 | Cosmic C*nts

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Before we head out to LA for the BET Awards, we close out the week joined by Godfrey! Rory and Godfrey say there's no way Katy Perry and Gayle King REALLY went space (11:14). Godfrey explains why blac...k people live rent free in everyone's head (57:25). Plus, Mal wants to know what the beef is between Africans and African Americans (1:02:48), and Godfrey shares a voicemail from Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson (1:28:30). #volume   *Timestamps may vary based on advertisementsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Catch live events and other exclusive sports programs only on VICE TV. Go to viztv.com to find your cable channel. The volume. Just a rolling start. How long have you been doing it so far, pardon your own? Four and a half? Yeah, something like that. This four and a half year?
Starting point is 00:00:55 It's been this long since you guys broke out. Yeah. Wow. Damn. It's time. And I know you don't know much about this podcast, so I'll give you just a quick brief of what. This show is dedicated to the shape of the earth.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Are you Lord Jamar? This entire pod is not about current events, not about music. We're strictly here to figure out what the shape of the earth. That's such a controversial episode. I came in here. They didn't get on the same path as me. That was the greatest podcast episode I've ever fucking seen in my life. Hold on, but before we get to that.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I know you guys are fans. Pay attention. Paying attention. I watched the three fucking times. I subscribed to Professor Dave. I watched his YouTube shit to this day. He's not lying. He's dead serious.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I came in here like, Yo, have y'all seen? What's up with you and Jamar on the fucking flat earth? What's going on with the flat earthers, can? This shit don't make no sense, can. Who gives a fuck about what the shape of the earth is, sir? And this is supposed to be five percent of peace of the gods and earths. And this is both, fuck, don't buy some flat earths.
Starting point is 00:02:11 You know what motherfuck don't buy some flat-up. Right, right, right. You know what motherfuckes talk when they breath go away? I don't get my fuck, man. This shit don't matter. Does it affect you going to one thing? It's not madden. The funniest part about all this is this originally was a Zoom episode.
Starting point is 00:02:26 We was going to have Gawfrey on Zoom. And I came in here. I'm like, I think Gawry lives in Manhattan. Why are we zoom in? And it was like, you and? I said, yeah, man. He's like, you know, right here. I'm like, you're like, you're going to get to.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Where are you at? And now he's here in the studio. And now he's here. in the studio. So thank you for coming by. Yeah, no doubt. Appreciate y'all. I know you guys. Sort of. Sort of. Because I was like, aren't you? You're like, don't say it. Don't fuck.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It's all right, though. I do appreciate that you blindly accept podcast invitations. Because when we got on Zoom, you're like, ain't you the guys? Yeah, coming over there. We appreciate that. Yeah, because I watch, listen, regardless of what happens in this biz, you know, everyone's doing their thing, things happen. It is what it is, man. I mean, looking with the flat earth for shit. Yeah. I haven't even spoken to him in, man, over, over the shape of the earth.
Starting point is 00:03:16 That's what's hilarious. So you haven't spoken to the other? No. Because I don't, I didn't do anything. Right. Well, here's the thing. Okay. He was like talking about the shape of the earth.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And I go, all right. Hey, why don't you have when we bring, because we're going to bring Neil deGrasse Tyson on there. Okay. Because he said that he was going to debate him. Because Chuck, Chuck Nice. My man, Chuck Nice is his. co-host on his show, StarTalk. I've done Star Talk with him.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Also, I did Neil DeGrasson's, Neil DeGrasse's show on Nat Geo. We shot at the planetarium on 8, you know, so I know, and I say, yeah, let's call Neil the Grass because we want to let's put a black man on there to talk to another black man. Right. So, and Neil DeGrasse was too busy.
Starting point is 00:03:59 So he's like, well, this guy, Dave, the science communicator said, hey, man, I'd like to debate this dude. Go ahead. Well, you're leaving out apart. Because after you guys had, that conversation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Professor Dave did his reaction video. To Lord. With a glass of cognac in his hand, which I grabbed some as well to watch that reaction video. We're all drinking out. I'm just like, oh, now I'm on board. Professor Dave is in the mix? Yo.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So I was like, this is great. It's science, man. Right. It's a debate who gives a fuck. Right. And I go, hey, I got a guy. Of course, I didn't surprise. I'm handsome.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Tada. We said, hey, would you like to? He goes, yeah, I'll. come through. I said, well, cool. And so, he's on there. And before, remember, before he even got on the screen, yo, fuck that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I was in a shot, I was like, oh, shit, uh-oh. So I just kept quiet. And I'm not trying to embarrass anybody. You want to battle. And he said, I'll even go against Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's not a real astrophysic. He's an actor. I was like, huh?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Dude, he was, if you guys, I'm a real nerd. So Carl S. was the original Cosmos. Carl Sagan, you know what Carl Sagan is? No. Well, Carl Sagan was the, well, Neil deGrasse Tyson hosts Cosmos. But the original host of Cosmos was Carl Sagan. This is white, dude, dark cat.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And I love Carl, I grew up on Carl Sagan watching Cosmos because I was into astronomy and shit like that. And so he was Neil deGrasse Tyson's mentor. Okay. And, you know, Neil deGrasse is from the Bronx. Yes. And he was when he was studying, you know, Neil deGrasse is a all-state wrestler. It was a free.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And he goes, yeah. And when I got into science, I met, you know, Carl Sagan. He gave me like a blessing, boom. So that's how his life has been. He's a real scientist. And so he goes, yeah, I'll debate anybody. And I say, cool. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:54 This will be awesome. Yeah. And what's funny, he says, oh, I was just doing it for clicks. I go, who isn't doing shit for clicks? Right. That's how you live. How you title an episode. I need clicks.
Starting point is 00:06:06 That's how you get money. And so he got on there And when he said what he said Before the guy got on I go oh boy So I just sat there and Dave stood his ground Yeah you know and he went at him And Dave is also a very
Starting point is 00:06:24 How do I put it? Arrogent Yes Arrogent with stipulations Because what he's saying is factual But it can piss somebody off just the way he's speaking He's snarky and fucking Well, if you understand what a ball is, it is.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gravity, dumbass. He's going to piss somebody. Somebody from Neuro shell, he's going to piss off the way he speaks. Yeah, the way he's talking. Yeah, of course. But when you're right, you're right. That's my thing.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And I'm like, you handle this. I just want to watch. I'm not trying to go back and forth. Right. You know, because I know science, but I'm not that deep in it like that. You know, but you really want to battle. this flat earth shit. Because for me, I understand why flat earthers have come into play. I understand because we're lied to so much just in general. Everything lies to us. Lies about food. They lied to
Starting point is 00:07:21 everything. So I understand when people go conspiracy theories. That's where conspiracy theories come from. Is there the presence of God? Is there such thing as a Jesus? You get it because motherfuckers lie a lot. So I understand the flat earth thing. Right. And what's funny is there's something. things about flat earth that makes sense you go you know what that kind of makes sense i like people that even if they're wrong they have some shit that you go well wait a minute yeah that makes for good yeah you know i'm a good conversation and so go ahead what you're gonna say i'm a huge conspiracy theorist and they accused me of being a flat arthur for a long time and granted i went and went through the same youtube rabbit holes that i'm sure lord jimar did as well and i was like nah that's probably
Starting point is 00:08:02 bullshit but i still believe in a lot of other conspiracies there was some stuff that made sense Yeah. You know, perspective wise, okay, if this is this, why don't we see the curvature? Then I brought my buddy on my buddy Calvin Stiggy. He's a pilot Jamaican. My boy's Jamaican is all hell. And he studied geospaced engineering and he was, he protected Obama. He was an Air Forceman.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Like he did the Tom Cruise shit that he got through the tricks and all. So he goes, he goes, he said, blood clodd, the earth is round. He's like, I see the culture And on the Jamaican is saying that shit Yeah, you gotta believe it When a Jamaican goes, I see no BumbaClack curve It was on 80,000 And it felt Bumba Clad
Starting point is 00:08:51 When they go Bamba Clat You gotta believe him He said, dude, he said Bamba Clive. V said the same thing He said he didn't kill that person I was on the ear, I swore the Bumbleclat! He said Bumbleclad. It's real. It's real.
Starting point is 00:09:05 So there is curvature it is what it is. It's like because I don't know because I don't fly. I don't, you know, so what if, what if those pictures that we have seen of the earth are fake? What if they are? Because we don't, we're not
Starting point is 00:09:20 satellites. We have, I haven't, I'm not Superman where I can fly and go, ah, it is round. What if they're lying to us? Because we're here on the planet. We don't know what the fuck they're doing up there. Right. They could be, I'm saying they could be lying. Yeah. With the moon landing, I, you know, the moon landing. I'm still
Starting point is 00:09:36 I'm doubting that shit, you know, especially after those space cunts went up there. Yeah. I'm sorry. The cosmic cunts are this. Yeah, call them by the proper names. The cosmic cunts. The cosmic cunts went up. Did they go up?
Starting point is 00:09:52 They bitches didn't go to space. There was some air and their hair. First of all, where is your helmet? At minimum. First of all, where's your pressure suit? They didn't even have at least motorcycle helmet. I saw Armagedon. They could go like this.
Starting point is 00:10:06 and open and go, wow, we're in bed. I'm just saying, I don't mean to insult them, but I was just like, and then you have fucking Katie Perry describing what the fuck happened. I go, why would you pick her? She's like, it was just love. Love and connection and just love.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And we were just there and connect. What the fuck are you talking about? We're talking science. Like, hey, I felt a gravitational pull. And then Bezos is white. with that fucking you would think that she had all that face shit done that the gravity would have her whole shit would be like oh my god yeah the girl every needle this is fuck my whole operation her shit would have been like you see would it look like a fucking yeah it was out no there was no
Starting point is 00:10:54 effect on that yeah so i was like we're and then we're like this wehoo we're in bath yeah if you're in space if you're on a high speed fucking train you're like this oh shit shit, right? If you're, oh, fucking grass. I do that getting off the FD. You're like, oh, shit, goddamn. But you're in space and you're just going, whew! Look at my daisy.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh, my God. A daisy means Kanaxha. And then they came out like, yeah. If you come from space, you're like, fuck. Yeah, that was intense. You know? And then Bezos tried to open a door. They already opened it.
Starting point is 00:11:36 He was like, fucking closing. Fuck! Take two. He was like, whee! Yeah. We saw it.
Starting point is 00:11:45 No angst to make sure his wife is okay. And you know what? And then it's like you can't, our bodies can't handle those kind of forces. You know, when you're in an airplane, 35,000 feet and your pressure.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And then, come on, there's pilots that go higher than that. Yeah. The fuck you talk. These pilots are up there with helmets on it. Oxygen and, and you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And you're higher than they are, but you're like, yeah, Speth, the Final Frontier, yeah. These are the people, these are the people we show. Just like, Spock, we have to go on turbo.
Starting point is 00:12:22 He's like this, Captain, I don't think we can make that. He's like, damn it, this makes no sense. Even on TV, this makes no sense. We can't do that. Star Trek look like real space, like, yeah, I don't think we can make it.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I think that force will suck us in. Spock, we have to get there. small. Right? And these motherfuckers like, yeah, we were there. It was love. It was Knaxian.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Like it was brunch. It's not time for feminism in that high altitude. The fuck is wrong. Is there any gender in the face? Finally, we resulted. It was Kinekshan. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Not that she found about love up there. It was the fact that she decided two days later that she needed to learn how to walk again. Did you see that concert? She was doing that. It was strange. Her concert was Gabbitts straight Basura
Starting point is 00:13:12 That shit was so bad She was a difference She was I said maybe she did go to space Because she got Riquities They left her up there She is
Starting point is 00:13:21 She got a rickets Gravitational forces Then fucked her knees up Oh my That's when she was in that Dressed as a fucking That was at least She should have been dressed
Starting point is 00:13:32 In that to go to space Yeah But they were all these sexy suits And then there's Gail King, right? And there's an Oprah's body double. And then there's, I call her Oprah's stunt double. Because if Oprah's like in a car scene and she rolls out, it's Gail. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I can turn in my head. Yo, it's Gail King rolling out the car. And there's two scientists who are real scientists. The girl that's the Vietnamese girl who was actually, you know, she was like sexually assaulted when she was a science. Yeah, she's gone through a lot. She's actually a real, um, astrophysicist or whatever. and the black girl, it's the, in the middle,
Starting point is 00:14:07 there's the Vietnamese chick in the front that's the lowest and the black, they're two real astrocyte. So I think they brought them in to just keep the hoax going. But it was some bull, they went straight to Katie Perry first. And I said, oh, this is bullshit. They fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's like, it was just love and Knoch, we're just that.
Starting point is 00:14:28 She was on love. Gail, like, kind of had a little sassy attitude, like, once she went. She was like this. She's like, have you been in the space? Then you tell me. I'm sorry. You're basically asking you what happened up there. Your friend is Jeff Bezos.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Space costs a million dollars a team. I just did. I was just on kayak to get my ticket to go to North Carolina. Fuck you're talking about. I was using my flyer miles and negotiated just trying to go a two-hour flight. And you're talking about, have you been the space? That's what I knew was bullshit. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Have you been to space? So when you get to space, let me know. Have you been to space? No, we haven't. You're the only ones that have obviously been there. Because we have what you were. That's why you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Flint doesn't have clean water and you went to space for funnies. Oh, my God. I totally forgot about that. That Flint didn't have clean water? No. I went to Flint. I'm talking about this space voyage that Gail King and him went on. Because remember she had the interview, she goes, people don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Have you been to space? If I have a friend named Jeff Bates, I'll go. and he'll pay for my day. But you didn't go to space. Have you been to space? You obviously haven't either because you're not explaining anything to us. You could have been like, well, the gravitational forces
Starting point is 00:15:42 it was really amazing. Then we saw cosmic dust and just some space talk. Like you could be at least like we, I think we saw like Haley's comic come by. Right. And we saw there's an asteroid. We were able to see, you know, the moon and the craters. And da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I mean, I know some science. Like, tell us something. Right. You were like this. Have you been to space? Well, if you don't know space, shut your ass. And you know how they use the word space now just in gym? I just love this space that we're in.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, that's what that was. We were in a space in space. It was sort of a safe space in space, which was sort of space like in a safe craft. So everything's about space. Everything's about space. Respect our space. It was so spacey that I'm spacey from the space.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And in this space, I was able to really be in a safe space. play for space. And this is a good working space for me. And, you know, and people who don't know about this space, know nothing about space. So where are you on the side of the flat earth thing? I still want to take Lord Jamar to Antarctica.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Do you remember when they did the experiment? They did recently. They do what? $35,000 a piece for these flat earthers to go to, because they say that, Antarctica, there's an end in Antarctica. There's some other, like, big fucking land. Okay, there's a wall.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah. So this dude's like, The Rothschild's on the other side. Right. I'm going to take you. There's a Rothschild Island right there. Go to Google Maps. Is there a Ross Child Island?
Starting point is 00:17:16 In Antarctica, yeah. I believe that, though. No, it's a fact. Snow Castle? Listen, I'm saying that the earth is round. I'm also saying that the Rothschilds own an island in Antarctica. And I believe that. And I believe that.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Along with that. It can be the Sorosos, the Rothschild, the Rockefeller Felt, the Rockerfelt. Yeah, I believe all that shit. Yeah. Now, but as far as like, he goes, okay, I'm going to take you guys to Antarctica, fly you all out. This guy, scientists, paid $35,000 a piece. Yeah. I got the money.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And then we're going to sit there and watch the sun. If the sun stays in the air, stays out for 24 hours at the Earth's round. They were like, okay, bet. And they camped out. That fucking son stayed there. And they were like, that's CGR. That's fucking A-I. They were there.
Starting point is 00:18:00 They took, like, flat-earther influencers. Like they took the Kendall Jenner of Flat Earth down there. And then when they got there, there was like, you know, now the 24 hours don't exist. Like we, yeah, yeah, it's real. Then they exiled them like some Scientology shit. Like they kicked them out of the Flat Earther community. Yeah, they're out.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Because they were like, guys, I was there. I promise you, that was not. And they were like, it's round. Earth is round. It's right. We were wrong. So now it kicked out of the fraterns. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:28 The freak kicked out. You're out of here. You think it's vulcan round? You think it's a sphere? you're out of here asshole The internet is just the worst place Because when I was even That's how they make their money though
Starting point is 00:18:39 I wouldn't even looking at the flat earth shit When I started on that rabbit hole They were telling me like yo There's no flights from Argentina to Australia And I was like damn why is that the case Then I went on price line I'm like no you could fly They just put out misinformation as a fact
Starting point is 00:18:57 And if you don't double check it Delta doesn't go to Trinidad I just found that out yesterday They don't So it's got to be a triangle. You look at the flag of Trinidad. JetBlue does that. Yeah, you can get there.
Starting point is 00:19:09 They show the lines. JetBlue has more lies. Now we're going to Trinidad. At one Flat Earth or Rabbit Hole, I went down, they showed footage of everyone taken off from Australia. And they said, they were forcing everyone to put the windows down. So you couldn't see. Yo, Vadis. I got to give credit to Flat Earth.
Starting point is 00:19:32 there's that keep going. They'll go like this, but no. And how come the wing was tilted? Yeah. Guess what that means? That's the flat earth, the grab. And then we were talking about, there was a thing about buoyancy.
Starting point is 00:19:45 You saw that? Yeah, of course. Okay, how come when you dip a, you put a water in a ball, in a ball, a ball in water, like a tennis ball, and you spin it, the water comes off. How come it does it,
Starting point is 00:19:58 the water doesn't fly off the earth? He goes, hey, dummy, because the earth is a gigantic fucking mass, a humongous mass, and gravity exists, and there's a, you know, there's a force that keeps us down.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You know, when you throw a ball up, it goes fucking down. Yeah. It's like, well, you know where down is? Remember,
Starting point is 00:20:17 he's like, do you know where down is? And in buoyancy, in the equation, if you can even pop it up, the equation for buoyancy, there's a G for gravity on the other side of the equal side.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Right. A G is in, the is in the equation for buoyancy right it's in the equation why do things float there's gravity right in the equation guys i'm stupid so it's not like i'm sitting here like i know everything no me either but this shit makes more sense to me than someone just screaming hey a ball can't what's their famous line can't hold water or whatever the fuck they say right it's and i'm like no when they said it i was like hmm that's a great point and it was easily disproven right it's a great point
Starting point is 00:21:04 I have a lot of love and respect for Lord Jamar I don't want to make it seem like I'm glad to Lord Jamar I was on his side in the beginning and I thought in the like yo listen you making up some great points and then Professor Dave just was like dog all right let me break this down for you
Starting point is 00:21:19 and Neil deGrasse Tyson you know have you heard when him and Terence Howard wrote some stuff some scientific theories and Terrence is like I believe that that the planet there's no such thing
Starting point is 00:21:34 as zero because if you see I've done a lot of calculation you know he sounds light skin he sounds light skin I love Terrence Howard he sounds light skin though I sound like a dark skin
Starting point is 00:21:48 he sounds like skin see nobody dark skin sounds like that he hits S's like every light skin here's the thing though you have to understand the philosophy and astronomical calculation. I've done this for a long time. He's South Lyska.
Starting point is 00:22:07 That's what I love about him. But he ain't no joke, though. He don't play that bullshit, though. I don't fucking smack shit out of somebody. He's real deal. He ain't no fucking, he ain't no punk. That's one thing. Whether he was playing a pimp, a rapper,
Starting point is 00:22:18 he's fucking amazing. He wears the same thing and looks exactly the same to every role. And I love him to be that guy. And the United States are a punk. That Batman thing, where he's a fucking amazing. He meets Batman. He goes,
Starting point is 00:22:30 what's that? Batman. He goes, it's Batman. Okay, Batman. That's what I said. I said Batman. That shit is hysterical.
Starting point is 00:22:40 But when you say things with conviction, like he does. Right, because Neil the Grass actually looked at the paper he wrote and said, I looked at it, but I just didn't have time to, you know, but there's some things that he said that didn't,
Starting point is 00:22:55 they weren't right. But I give him credit for his effort. Okay. You know, there's this thing they call, what's the theory they call where you, you think you know enough, you think you know something, but you don't have enough information to really know, and you don't know what you're talking about. There's a, there's a theory. Was it, was it called? Cognitive dissonance. It's, um, shit. Um, it's, it's a theory where you, you, you, narcissism. You don't, no. Right. That's a good one, right. Where you, where you, where you have, you think, you, you think, you. you have a certain amount of information to make you think you know everything, but you don't have enough, something like that. The district attorney.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Puffy's lawyers. Is it? Okay, read that. Can you read that? The phrase you don't know what you don't know highlights the limitations of human knowledge and a potential for gaps in understanding. It emphasizes that there are often things we are unaware, we don't know, which can lead to misunderstandings or flawed assumptions.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Right. So it's that. And so Neil DeGrasse said, That's what he has. He has that. That's what he has. But I love his, but we're scientists. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We've done experiments over and over and over. This is what we do. And I'm not knocking him, but what you're talking about is wrong. Right. Because I'm a fucking scientist. That's like telling him about acting. Right. Like, Terence is an amazing actor.
Starting point is 00:24:29 That's like me telling you about acting. you don't know it like I do. Right. And so that was really interesting that, you know, and my thing is science is there to be debated. What's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong. Even though they've since the days of Einstein and Boer
Starting point is 00:24:47 and all these scientists that have, you know, they have all these different types of, they have their own theories. They have their own calculations and equations. Even back then, these were, I mean, Madam Cure, they all did science experiments over for tons of. of them. So these motherfuckers know what they're talking about. And it's okay
Starting point is 00:25:05 to debate them. Just be ready. Just be ready to get started. Right. Just be ready to be wrong. This is their actual job. Like, just get ready. You know, you know what I'm saying? It's like getting in a scene with Denzel and be like, I know how to act. Are you? Are you sure about that? Are you sure? So what are we going to do? We're going to work.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You're going to keep your mouth shut. Is that what you're telling me? You think you know, you know. And now I'm sitting here like, I don't know how to act. Yeah. That girl said, what do I need to do to be a comic actor? He said, learn, shut up, turn off your phone. Practice, train, right? It was, who was a menace society?
Starting point is 00:25:45 Who directed that? Which brothers? Huddling? No, not the Huddlin. I think it was the Huddling brothers? No. Oh, no, was it Bill Duke? No.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Menace Society is the brothers. You know you don't fucked up. You know that one, right? Bill. Bill Duke was the one. It was the Hughes brothers. The Hughes brothers. Bill Duke was the one who said,
Starting point is 00:26:03 you know he didn't fuck that. Yeah, he was in it. He was actually in it, yeah. So Alan Hughes was doing a podcast, I think it was like with Neil Brennan maybe and was talking about directing Denzel for the first time. And any time he had any type of note or real direction, Denzel would just yell, 32, 32. He'd do it for the whole week.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And then Alan Hughes realized he was saying the amount of movies he's done and saying, Shut the fuck up. hilarious. 32. 32. Don't tell me what the fuck I'm doing right now. That is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:26:39 32. Dinner for a whole week. He thought he was calling an honorable. Yeah, yeah. We thought he was calling an audible. 32. Set. 3.5.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Hit 5. 32. Crazy. You know that last what I lie? I was like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. Let me do what I do. You just saw me in a gang of movies.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Right. Not an Oscar real quick. Right. Let me do what I do. He's like, Den, can you like, no? Yeah, no, I can't. Do you see me directing you? Huh?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Nah? Ha ha. You know, it's in that 30... That's a lot of talk about it. It happened to me. I was on a sentence. And when it comes to comedy, like, I just feel like those people can't tell me. What's the difference for you between, let's say, stand up and then actual...
Starting point is 00:27:26 Situational comedy. Yeah. I'm good at both. You know, not everybody, a lot of comedians can transfer into acting. That's one thing. A lot of comedians can go from stand up to like sketch comedy and stuff like that because we have that timing thing. We do character work on stage.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So we can adjust easier. I'm not saying we're all going to be the greatest at it, but we can, that's why they pick a lot of comics on a lot of sketch stuff because we kind of know, because a lot of sketches come from comics that they've watched. they'll steal a joke and just extend it into a sketch. You feel me? Yeah. So a lot of times a lot of writers from the SNLs and whatever will go to comedy clubs
Starting point is 00:28:07 to get premises. Oh, yeah. And you'll go, wait a minute, that looks like my shit. You know what I mean? So that's why we're real, we can think in sketch too. Because a lot of comics are writers. Right. You got Michael Chey.
Starting point is 00:28:21 You got Colin Jost. They're all comics. Yeah. You know, a lot of my comic friends write a lot of, a lot of sketches. They're all comedians. Even though John Mullaney was the headwriter, SNR-R-X.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Sketch. Yeah, but he's stand-up. So a lot of us are stand-up. Colin Quinn was a stand-up. Dennis Miller, a stand-up stand-of-sand-s. So we can get into acting. A lot of comics can become dramatic actors, too.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Because we're angry. First of all, we're fucking angry. Comedy comes from anger, pain, and shit like that. You look at some great actors, Robin Williams. You look at Michael Keaton was a stand-up. Really? What? Nate?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah, Michael's stand-stand-up comic. Michael Keaton, who's one of the best, greatest actors. Michael Keaton was a stand-up. Kevin Pollock's stand-up. Who else? Richard Pryor was a good actor. Richard Pryor could actor's ass off. You got Eddie Murphy.
Starting point is 00:29:09 You got, we can keep going. There's a lot of stand-ups that can become actors. Rosie O'Donnell was a stand-up comic. Roseanne Barr, stand-up comic. We could just, it's easy to, it's easier. It's harder for an actor to do comedy. Oh, yeah, for sure. But drama, it's easier for,
Starting point is 00:29:27 for us to get into that shit. We've seen Robert De Niro try to be a comedic actor for the last 20 years. And it's funny because, but what's great, he's doing mafia movies. Like, listen, I like you the parents too. But he, but he, we got to stop here. I'm trying to be a comedian. There was a show called The Actor's Studio. Yeah, I remember.
Starting point is 00:29:44 With James Lipton. Yeah. I love that. Favorite Chappelle interview. Chappelle did it. Yeah. And he asked De Niro, what's the hardest thing for you as an actor? He goes, comedy.
Starting point is 00:29:54 It's so difficult. Denzel said it. Comedy. comedy. Kim Bassinger said comedy. It's harder than drama. And it doesn't get rewarded the way it should be. I think a funny movie should be rewarded for, because that's hard.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Because you already go into, when you're going to go see a funny, funny movie, you already got attitude. This should better be funny. Right, right. Shit, fuck that. You don't go into the drama going, I better cry like a bitch. Because the notebook had me snotting bubbles, baby. I better cry like a bitch.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I better cry like a bitch. I want to lose breath in this, motherfucker. You never do that. Yeah, duh. You just go, drama's a drama. You don't always go to funny. Unless you wouldn't even funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:35 It's way harder. Yeah. Because there's an expectation. Yeah. You know, with drama, you can have laughter. You can, if you cry, you can, eh. Comedy's like, I just, I come for one fucking reaction. So you grew up, you grew up in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yep. What's the, is it tougher, like, the comedy scene, the comedy clubs in Chicago? Is it tougher than New York or is New York? York, by far the toughest city for comedy? Right now, I don't know the landscape of comedy as far as coming up, because I'm, like, I've been doing it over 25 years, so I don't, but I knew in Chicago, I mean, New York had just more stages. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:13 New York, and I'm coming up during the death jam times, and it was, I don't lie, the urban shit was wild as fuck. Like, these New York motherfuckers were like, boom, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I didn't even go up yet. Yeah. They went to boo. They'd be like, I'm just letting you know what's about to happen to you, son.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Don't be corny out here, son. Yeah. It's what a God, son. All you see was Pele, paylay jackets and fucking echo jackets and shit like that. Yeah. Like this is like this. Make me laugh. Like, ain't you on a date?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah, all right. You're like, damn, son. What the fuck? You were Brooke. I did all. But in Chicago, we had our urban circuit because I came under Bernie Max Club. So it was me. Dion Cole, I would see Dionne Coe Cori Holcomb, D-Wa-Davis.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I see Mike Apps would come from Indianapolis. Cedric would come from St. Louis. So we was under Bernie Mac shit. So we were doing urban, like Chicago urban scene was like, you know, we had Bishop Don Juan. You know the guy that hangs out with Snoop. I know him before Snoop, though. He knew me as an amateur. When I shot Soul Playing with Snoop, Bishop came on the set and greeted me first.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Wow. He came on. He said, baby, man, I'm proud of you, baby, man. You've been, man, I remember when you first started, baby. He represents Chicago. Yeah. And Snoop was like, how fuck you know? I said, I'm from Chicago, Snoop.
Starting point is 00:32:38 He goes, that's why I fuck with you, dog. Yeah. I love Chicago. I said, yeah, we used to do pimps shows in Chicago where the pimps who come, Bernie Mac, and there would be those Chicago Bulls when we was winning. Yeah. When we was giving the next hand in that day age, boy. A lot of years of that.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah. A lot of years of that. That was the greatest playoff shit ever. But that was the time when I was coming to New York wearing Jordan T-shirts, just being an asshole. And Katz was like, no, fuck you, man. I go, yo, I'm not playing in the game, bro. Go say that to Jordan, man.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Say it to me. I'm right here telling jokes, bro. I did shit like that. I dug myself in a hole every time I'd be wearing Jordan shit. Like Jordan had real special, like, he had a store. It was Jordan's head of restaurant in Chicago. and there were t-shirts you can only get from that store. So I would buy these exclusive.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So I had one where he's a cyborg, Jordan, the greatest. And I came on stage with that shit in Brooklyn. I was in Brooklyn. I think I went up after Chappelle or D.C. Benny went up. They was like, you'll fuck Chicago. I go, you're losing. It does no good. Jordan's still going to score 50.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You being mad here at this comedy show is going to do you no good, my friend. He will still score 50. Did you know? The only reason why you're in Madison Square Garden is for Michael Joel. Exactly. Don't forget. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Go ahead. Did you know in Chicago at that time? Because that list you just named off coming under the Bernie. This is all Bernie Mac. Bernie Mac was like the guy. And my boy Evan Lionel, Evan, my big brother is the one that got Bernie up. People don't know Evan. Evan's like this old Chicago dude, my big brother who started like the black comedy circuit
Starting point is 00:34:23 when he was in college and just put, he was the first guy to put money. in our pockets and he's the one that brought Bernie into the scene. He got footage on Bernie doing open mics. Wow. He got shit on Bernie doing open mics. I've seen it. When Bernie wasn't rich, when Bernie was just funny with his little glasses and shit, some of my bitch.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Fuck your motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. He got footage on all of us when we first started, Evan Lionel. Remember that name. He's the one that stopped Bernie from a life of crime. He's the one that went to high school with Bernie. Chicago Vocational High School, Bernard McCullum.
Starting point is 00:34:59 You know what I mean? He said, Bernie, man, come do my shows, do that. You're talented. That's the dude we need to talk about. Evan Lionel, for real. He brought us all into that, you know what I'm saying? He's still in L.A. And anytime Chicago,
Starting point is 00:35:13 anything that happens with Chicago, we always let him know while I'm in town. You know, he looks out for Chicago shit. So D. Ray, all of us came through there. I saw everybody. D.L. Hughley came through to everybody. Then we had a club. club called All Jokes Aside, which was an all black comedy club for like seven years.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And it was all black. And it wasn't black night at a white establishment because most of the black nights are at a mainstream establishment. Urban nights. I'm sorry. The urban people nights. The rough nights, economically. But what's funny is the urban nights are what keeps the clubs open.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Absolutely. They make the most money. But they won't say anything about that. Because it, and, and what's funny is most of the African American headliners are the reasons why a lot of these comedy clubs survive. It isn't the white ones. It isn't the, uh, like it's like the black ones always kept shit going because the urbanites made. It was pat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Because it was like, oh, this is our night, you know. And, um, yeah, that's, that's where we, that's where I came from watching all of the, Mark Curry. I just watched all the greats come through there, man. Like, it was like, holy shit. shit. Maw, I am tired of seeing these ads where it looks like it's a great price and then you get the bill later and it is not what they advertise. But that does not happen with Boost Mobile. You pay $25 a month for ever. Did you say $25 a month? $25. I thought you said $35. Not with boost. It's $25 every single time. No hidden fees. 5G speeds not available in all areas.
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Starting point is 00:40:52 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Speaking of back in those days, we're coming up on the BET Awards next week. Oh, I don't invite me to that shit, but go ahead. You said don't invite you? I never get invited to that. Really? I don't get invited to any of that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:13 We just got invited because of Boost Mobile. Yeah, well, that's great. Well, thanks to Boost Mobile. But you were on, like, Comic View. You did the BT Comic View. I did that after they started paying us normal money. Because they used to pay you $150 and make you pay your own way. I found that out.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And I said, I'm with SAG. I ain't doing that shit. I'm like, I'm with SAG after. Then they go, we're now, we have SAG. I'll pay you this. I go, okay, gentlemen's salary. That's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'll do it now. Yeah. So I did it in Atlanta. Mm-hmm. Like 2000? 2000. Comic view was big, though. It was huge, but I didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:41:48 $150. Now I'm good. Yeah, yeah. But I did it. I did it four times. I did it L.A., Chicago, New Orleans, and Atlanta. Okay. And yeah, it worked out.
Starting point is 00:41:58 You know, I was happy because I liked Comic View. People were watching the shit out of it. It was its highest rated show. And I said, well, you pay us decent. I'll do it So yeah that was cool That was cool Another platform that I always speak about a lot
Starting point is 00:42:13 That I absolutely love growing up That I think we don't speak about Or give enough praise to And live in color Oh man Come on man He and Ivy Wayne's the Wayne's family Genius genius
Starting point is 00:42:22 How important is a show like that To black comic Man it's super important Because you look at something like SNL And you had Eddie Murphy Who changed the game But let's get Gary Morrison props Because he was the first black member
Starting point is 00:42:36 in 1975. But then Eddie Murphy took it to a level of he was a great, he's the greatest SNL member ever, ever. So, but by far. Because he was the only member to host while he was on the show. He hosted SNL while he was on the show. Eddie Murphy brought it to number one. SNL was in third place.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Eddie Murphy brought it to number one, period. Like, ain't nobody fucking with Eddie Murphy. I don't know anybody say. Ain't nobody. And there are some great ones. Will Farrell's great. Mike Myers. There's a lot.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Tim Kassarinsky, Joe Piscop. A lot of great ones like, Mary Gross. There was like, what's her name? The one who does the superstar. Oh, uh, Molly Shannon, like, oh, Sherry O'Terry. Like, there's some great, but no one's fucking with Eddie Murphy. No way. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Eddie was the shit. And that was important. And everybody wanted to be Eddie Murphy. We were like, Eddie, but we all wanted to be Eddie Murphy. And then when in living color came, you go, what, an all black sketch? because you were used to seeing all white sketch. Because most sketch, like improv, I come from Chicago, where Second City.
Starting point is 00:43:43 That's where a lot of people from S&L come from. John Belushi was, Belushi, Stephen Colbert, Chris Farley. I worked as a bar back in Second City. I got a job. My friend was working. She goes, you want a job? I go, yeah, you know, I'm off for colleges. She's like, yeah, you want to work in the bar?
Starting point is 00:44:02 I say, yeah, fuck it, you know, wash dishes, make. drinks and that's when I saw Chris Farley. And I go, who's that fat dude? That dude's funny as shit. Tim Meadows and then I would watch them. I'm like 16. I'm like, yo, that fat dude's slamming himself into the table and shit. And he was from Wisconsin,
Starting point is 00:44:19 but he lived in Chicago, but a lot of Stephen Colbert, a lot of people came, what's her name? Um, what Sherry O'Terry O'Terry came from Second City? Um, um, what's the main lady? Tina Faye. They're all from Second City, Chicago.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So their sketch was sketch is big in Chicago. All the improv, Olympics, but it was very white. It wasn't, not a lot of black people, not a lot of Asians, nothing. It was white dominated. So to see, they live in color was like, yo, what the fuck? And this is, and Jim Carrey gives credit to them. Yeah, absolutely. Because he goes, SNL rejected me.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I was, the black people accepted me. Jim Carrey's like, nobody chose me. Nobody hired me. But it was Keenan Ivy Wands, who's, a fucking genius. Keenan is the one that made me who I am. Jim Carrey said, and Jim Carrey is the first guy ever opened up for in Chicago. Really?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Illinois Institute of Technology. My friend was an engineering student and she was head of the student activity, the black student year. She goes, you want to open up for Jim Carrey? I said, are you fucking kidding me? I love Jim Carrey. So I opened up for him. I did 10 minutes with Harlan Williams.
Starting point is 00:45:31 If you know Harlan Williams. Yeah. And yeah, that was my first big. That was when Jim, right before he blew up for a pet detective, I was in the basement with this motherfucker, just talking to him. He was the nicest dude. And now I'm friends with his daughter. Years later, I know Jane.
Starting point is 00:45:45 My boy is the day that now I'm cool with his daughter, which is insane. That's wow. What was that combo like in the basement? It was just, he was just like, oh, so what are you doing? You know, like, hey, what are you up to now? Well, I got this. We were just talking normal shit. He goes, oh, you're really funny.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It was just, and I have a picture with him. Like, and that's what. And then after that, he just, and he's so fucking. talented. He's scary talented. But I always, but guys like Jim Carrey and Eddie Murphy and like from the Joan Rivers to the Rodney Davisville to the Richard Pryors to the Paul Mooney's to the, Don Rickles to, I grew up watching greats, man, Sammy Davis Jr. Like I grew up watching cold motherfuckers, man. I said, I got to be like that. I don't, being average to me is trash. I don't, I don't get that. Watching Michael Jordan like a motherfucker who would practice after the games and shit.
Starting point is 00:46:33 he would work on his shit like when you're used to watching that in your life i go that's how i want to be i don't want to be okay fuck that right i think it's i think it's a i think it's a it's a it's sacrilege for people to pay money to watch average shit to me i don't it doesn't necessarily mean you have to like what i'm saying right but as far as my skill level yeah is the key right i'm i grew up i don't know i grew up watching skilled performers and this is an era of mediocre motherfuckers man Mediocre shit. Mediocre shit. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's not a, it's not a hater thing. It's like, if you're good, I'm gonna say it. I go, yo, that's what I'm talking about. Mediocre shit. Like, come on now. Do you think is that or we just have more access to seeing more people? I think that the mediocrity has inspired more mediocre people. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Because when I was coming up, you go, I can't do that shit. Yeah. You were just watching and go, damn. Fuck, man. When you watch Jordan and you watching Ewing and all, you go, oh, God, that's another level. Because I play baseball, football. You know, I played all that.
Starting point is 00:47:40 But to watch Shannon Sharp play ball, that's a whole other level. Yeah. And I played college ball, but I was like, damn, there's people better than me. Yeah. Fuck, like, and you're like, I'm decent. Yeah. Oh, this dude, what the? When you go to the pro levels, I tell people the pro level,
Starting point is 00:47:58 that's why when people are in the stands talking shit about pro athletes, keep your mouth shut. We all, we all suck. That's why we're sitting here wearing this motherfucker's jersey, bitch. And your face is half-painted with your dumb buddies. We paid a lot of money to watch them.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Your faces half-painted with their names on their bellies, you fucking bitches. And you're going, man, he missed that pass. You would have missed it too, stupid. You wouldn't have been to take the past. Right, right. You're flagged football champ. Shut your mouth.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah. He's a flag. Yeah. So I'm saying like, I just, I really believe when you perform, you want people to go, God damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 That was, that's when I'm, that's how I take my shit. I only know, I only watched the best. So, but like this business is a weird. It's like, I didn't know show business was so weird where when you were good, the people had a problem with that. Yeah. I'm not able. I was like, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Because Bill Cosby, I worked, my first job was working with Cosby. Like, I was, I was an audience coordinator in Queens, New York. And I would, you know, and to watch Cosby do his shit, my motherfucking, no one. you don't wait, fuck on Cosby, bro. For real. Like, I saw this shit to see him do his work. I was like, ain't nobody fuck on him. Like, because Pryor wanted to be Cosby.
Starting point is 00:49:11 People understand. He inspired Richard Pryor. Cosby is that. I know all this shit that's happened with him, but Cosby is the fucking king. For real. What about audience that he asked you to coordinate? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:49:25 The fact that you waited for it, he was like this. He was like, wait, I got to say it. I don't like your eagerness that pissed me off. He's like this. You're like, ready? I love that you observed that. What kind of audience?
Starting point is 00:49:37 You were waiting to say it for sure. You were like this. Because you were, you did the butt on the Cosby thing. You were like, I did. It's like I saw the pitch coming. I smacked it out the park.
Starting point is 00:49:49 You were like this. What's funny is I was going to take it back in my head. But then when you said, forget about the Cosby thing. So what about what did he coordinate? Say it now, say it now. That's in my head of one. There deserves a, three, or four.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Yeah, I was, you know, where's, where's the family feud buzzer? Like, your ass thought your ass was funny, boy. Some of us are your yoga. Top five answers on the board. Here's the question. Name something. Lori wants to say when he has a joke in his head. A coordination.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Bha-hawn. Shutting up with the number one answer. Shutting up. What? What? Rhythm. Oh, my. Cory was like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:37 Roy was like, that's all folks. I saw you fumbling. Well, God, you, you are, Roy. Like, so you're defending. You're defending.
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Starting point is 00:51:31 They've been a way better. But I think you, you can do better. I really believe you can. Boost supports you, though. Boost, yeah, they're wonderful, but they're pieces of shit. What they need is a boost for me. I should call them bootleg. Which carrier would you use if you were to call in the nukes?
Starting point is 00:51:52 Calling the nukes with carrier. There are many carriers out there. I know very carriers. There's Mariah carrier. There's a lot There's Carrie the movie There's that one There's so many carries
Starting point is 00:52:07 I know very good A very much Jim carries I know all the carries There's a lot of carries A lot of carries Gary Fischer's There's So many carries
Starting point is 00:52:18 I know I know a running back There's lots of carries So I'm very good at it You tried to trick me That's very rude Very rude I'm my vocabulary
Starting point is 00:52:29 very extensive. Who are your, we'll be talking about black comedians after you're living color, some great comics to come out of there. But another thing
Starting point is 00:52:36 about living color, they saved Fox, though. They literally saved Fox and then they changed the whole halftime highlight thing, you know, because the halftime,
Starting point is 00:52:45 they took the numbers away from halftime show. That's how big they were. So they changed, they changed television, they helped Fox, and because there was a time where they say
Starting point is 00:52:55 black people don't sell, which was bullshit. They actually do Sell, Tommy Davidson, because Tommy Davidson had come to my college and perform. That's where I really got inspired to do comedy in my third year college. I was like, and I, no doubt. And I hung out with Tommy Davidson. And then when I started doing comedy, I did a premium blend on Comedy Central when Comedy
Starting point is 00:53:14 Central was actually funny. And Tommy Davidson was my host, which was crazy, crazy. And he had remembered me, oh, you showed me around your campus. Crazy shit. Yeah, but they saved, they saved Fox. Black people have saved Eddie Murphy saved SNL. In Living Color saved Fox. Wesley Snipes saved Marvel in 99 because I hung out with Stanley three times.
Starting point is 00:53:40 My friend used to work for Stanley. And when he was 89 and I was in his office and he goes, he goes, yeah, Godfrey, let me show you a picture of, you say Wesley Snipes there. Wesley Snipes, he saved Marvel. We were going on, we were going bankrupt if it wasn't for Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes saved fucking Marvel And we didn't see another Yeah, Blade did Wow
Starting point is 00:54:01 Blade sold Wesley, I remember It was huge And Wes and Blade one and two Then three they started fucking it up Yeah Brought Ryan Reynolds in All these and Parker Plaza
Starting point is 00:54:12 Like he's getting corny now And And you never saw another blade again And then the blade that was coming out They stopped that production 25 years later There's no blade And it saved all of Marvel
Starting point is 00:54:24 Then when Blade showed up on Deadpool, people went like, oh my God, but black people sell. Look at what Black Panther did. It was the highest grossing Marvel film. We sell, man. You just don't want us to have anything. You got to get out of that old adage, man. We sell. You know why I know black people sell? Because you copy us all around the world. Everybody's DJing, pop, lock, and rapping, fuck you. Like, black culture is the best culture on the planet. It just is. It's not, if it was Asian culture, I'd say it. Black culture is the best because I see Asians on TikTok pop lock and DJ and blah blah blah. I see everybody doing black shit. So it's obviously
Starting point is 00:55:02 selling. Right. You know what I'm saying? So fuck, fuck your adage. Get with it and just fucking let people rock. Like black people sell. Right. We're fucking cool. Listen, I like white actors. I've been watching them all my life. Yeah. Oh my life. No choice. I love. I had no choice. I love Steve McQueen. Yeah. I love Charles Bronson. Yeah, yeah. I love. Yeah. I love. Yeah. Fuck. Right. There's other people. Why can't it be Arab actors, Indian actors? You know, you ever see Monkey Man?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Monkey Man is fire. It's with Dave Patel from Slumdog Millionaire and, you know, the guy, the little nerdy kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He made a movie called Monkey Man. Jordan Peel produced it. So I'm going to produce it because he was trying to get it sold. It was like sort of like a John Wick, but an Indian style. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And he said, I'm tired of playing this stereotypical nerdy Indian. dude. We know there, we can do action. We can do the stuff like the white guys do. And he sort of like funded it himself. Jordan Peel produced. It is fantastic. It's like we don't mind seeing white actors, but the world, 7% of the world is white. Seven percent. Yeah. Population wise. You guys go by American standards. Yeah. 7% of the world is white. Seven. The rest is brown. Where the fuck are we? what's wrong with showing us why is it killing you to just like look
Starting point is 00:56:28 what sinners did save the box office again it's saved and it's an original script $300,400 million and they tried to lie in variety that wasn't doing well and Ben Stiller said why the fuck would you do that to them? Ben Stiller stood up and said why are you doing that sinners is murdering
Starting point is 00:56:46 we sell man it's just good stories that's all people want to see themselves I don't want to see white roncoms all the time motherfucking black dudes are smooth as fuck We fuck a lot What you talk about Most of times you get your swag from us
Starting point is 00:57:03 That's how you talk to women Because you acting like us Right And you get intimidated when we walk in the room So how are you to smooth this dude here Fuck out of here Where the black rom-com? Where's everybody?
Starting point is 00:57:14 That's all I'm saying It's like I love the rom-coms But we, you know 90s Black movies were fired The wood fucking two can plate that and then they went away it's like stop it's like enough with get out of your fucking head nobody's trying to take over
Starting point is 00:57:29 nobody's trying to do anything to you we just want to win everybody can eat man but it's just these motherfuckers he he don't sell what the fuck you talk about where have you been every I've been to over 40 countries and I see every country I see they're rapping I went to when I was in Lithuania I did a show in Lithuania up all places
Starting point is 00:57:48 they called me out there did a show some little festival and they took me to a hip hop concert. It was all Lithuanians. I was only black dude there. I'm laughing my ass off. Because these motherfuckers like, but... Hold on a dick,
Starting point is 00:58:02 hoodies, and I'm sitting there going, and it said, hip hopos, and I said, you guys are acting like the black people, and you know what's big in Lithuania,
Starting point is 00:58:16 basketball. That's why they get a lot of bullp. They were hooping in the summer in the wintertime. It was cold then. They was hoping, full courts. Yeah. And cold shooting. Yeah. They were like, oh, no, basketball's like religion out here. I go, of course it is.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Yeah. You're being black right now. When I'm in China. Yeah. I'm in Beijing. I was like, what fuck we're talking about? Yeah. They're getting afros. They're making their hair like ours. What do you mean? We don't sell. All the K-pop girl groups are acting like black men.
Starting point is 00:58:46 That's all fucking temptations. New Addition. It's black. Yeah. Black boy band shit, that's black steps. That's black. I'm just saying it is what it. Don't say that we don't sell. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Enough. I'm just saying enough with the racial slurs. Enough making fun of us. Enough with the black face. Enough with that. We run rent free in people's heads. Black people are the most famous race because we run rent free in everybody's head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Everybody's head. It's either they got something good to say or they're on, oh, okay. Someone's doing the end where someone's wearing black. face. We get it. You can't get enough of us. You can't. It is what it is. We get it. You want our dicks. But you so you got to make fun because
Starting point is 00:59:30 of insecurity. We ain't thinking about you. Honestly, we ain't thinking about you. We really not. But the only way you exist is by calling us names. That shows you exist. How about being a good human being and go, hey, that's what you do. But you got to call us names so we can show you exist because you know we
Starting point is 00:59:46 really don't give a fuck about you. Yeah. We really don't. And you know if you coming to the right person. You can get fucked up out here. And you know that. Yeah. Because motherfuckers out here got hands. There's a difference between. I like how we do that. We just throw that little tidbit in. We got hands. And I told, and I said about those South Africans that are coming here.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Try that apartheid shit out here. Try that. They will beat the accent out to you out here. Motherfucker. You got it twisted. I know, I know. New York is a Dutch colony. It's an old Dutch colony, but this ain't 1600s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be careful out here. These, mm-mm, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Don't, I'm gonna tell you right now, there's a difference between hate and rage. We have rage. You have hate for no reason. Rage is all of us. We have every reason to take your head off, but we don't do that because that's not our nature. That's not our nature.
Starting point is 01:00:41 As long as you cool, we go, oh, man, he cool as fuck. Right. And we'll protect you if you cool. But then you go say some stupid shit. We're like, oh, we thought, It's like, okay, here's a perfect example. It's like when Kramer, Michael Richards, said what he said.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I worked with Michael Richards at the laugh factory, and I sat with him. He's a weird dude, but I sat as a comic. And then he said all the N-word shit and I went shit. And I remember walking down the street and there was these dudes, they're cleaning the streets. They got that program where they were the blue little things. It's like for prisoners. They got this cleaning program.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And I was walking. I was standing there by the train. station and these dudes was like, man, you hear that shit, Kramer said, man, man, I love that motherfucker too. I love, he was my favorite character on Seinfeld. It was black people talking about him. Wow, that was a disappointment. I said, why, why? Why are you still on that?
Starting point is 01:01:33 And then they'll say, move on. You guys need to move on. You're the only race that hasn't moved on. You're the only ones. You still call people niggas. What are you doing? That's an old term. Four hundred years. You're still saying the same shit. Everybody's
Starting point is 01:01:49 moving on but you. Yeah. You're still on that old, that old mentality. Get rid of it, bro. Enough of it. There was a conversation
Starting point is 01:01:57 on, and I'm, because you are Nigerian-American. Was this too heavy for you? No, no, this was great. This was amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You sure you don't want me to ask this question? No, I definitely don't want me to ask this question. But there was a, there was a, from the coordination. There was a time, there was a thing on the timeline.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I can't wait to say it. There was a thing on a timeline that happens often on a timeline where, black Americans and black Africans. Oh yeah, here we go. Clash. Yeah, no doubt. We don't like this. And y'all this.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We're fucking right. We don't like each other. Yeah. What is that about? Oh, that's, like I said, it's, you can give it to the media for that credit. One thing, okay, here's a reason why the Asians got their Asian hate bill signed. Remember, they got that shit signed in seconds. Yeah, two days.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Because they're connected to, because they're connected to Asia. Chinese people still got connection to Asia. And the Asians, and they got deals with Asia. So they go, it would be who of us to sign this hate bill? Because the Asians in Asia look out for the Asians here. Because they got family out here that are establishing themselves. Even though Chinese had been here since what, the early, that's 1700, 1800s. Built the railroads for Anderson Cooper's granddad.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yeah, I don't know. Was it Oakland or what? No, Vanderbilt. San Francisco. San Francisco, yeah. Cornelius Vanderbilt is Anderson Cooper's great-grandfather. Yeah. And there's a statue of him on 46.
Starting point is 01:03:23 You know when you make that turn off a Park Avenue? That statue, that's his great-great-grandfather. Anderson Cooper comes from that kind of money. He literally lives in a firehouse. The one on Third Street that used to be right next to the Boston Comedy Club. He bought that whole firehouse. But he's loaded like that. Like Gloria Vanderbilt, that's his mother, famous tragedy.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So the Chinese look out for their people. They, no, those are our people. You better sign some shit. What's you doing? Africa is divided. See, because Europeans came and purposely divided the African countries. You know you have to have a passport to go to the neighboring country. But in Europe, you could take a train to Italy, to France.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Because I took a train from Spain to Amsterdam to Spain. You don't need a passport. But they came, the Europeans came when they were colonizing and taking all the resources. They literally purposely bordered off African countries so Africans couldn't meet each other. That's where the division comes from colonization. Right. So when on TV, you know, I was born in America.
Starting point is 01:04:28 My sister was born in Nigeria. My brother born in America, grew up in Chicago. I born in Nebraska. My father was in school in Nebraska. Then we moved to Chicago. So on TV, we would watch Africa, and it would be poor people, belly, flies and Tarzan.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And I need to be to ask my dad, is this what Africa is? We'll tell you talking. We have caught. We have. We were like, right. Yeah, yeah. So then they show that to us.
Starting point is 01:04:53 So Africans, African Americans, like, yeah, these Africans are fucked up. Then in Africa, they show black Americans being arrested, criminals, drug dealing. So they purposely did that because they didn't want any black progress. That was like, we can't let these motherfuckers rise. So that's why when you, when the African meets an African American, be like, oh, you black African booty scratches. I was the most black African booty scratches. I was like, we scratch our butts?
Starting point is 01:05:21 I usually think, and I didn't even want to scratch my ass. I don't want to stereotype. You don't know what I'm interested right now. I can't do that. I don't want to do this. I'm like, but then we would thought, and then Africans would be like, oh, you guys are lazy, da, da, da, and African Americans are some of the most unlazy people. If you know the history of African American history, they built this fucking country.
Starting point is 01:05:43 lazy white people were lazy they weren't doing anything right black people did everything you'd even know that denim denim denim is a black invention mm-hmm denim jeans are a black invention because they created them to work in the fields denim you talk about i'm just saying the elevator the escalator all of this is black inventions the street sweeper is a black invention but it makes sense we were working all the time right the ironing board the dryer refrigeration it's black the microphones we talk on the guy's still alive he created it James West
Starting point is 01:06:17 black inventor our security system 1966 of a black nurse Mary Van Brighton in Queens she just she created the fucking security system you understand where I'm coming from it's like we created so much African Americans
Starting point is 01:06:35 created lazy fuck are you talking about but they were stolen patents were stolen Thomas Edison stole a lot of black people shit I mean, he was a great inventor, but he stole a lot of shit too. And he did a lot of shit, horrible shit, to Jewish people who were trying to make movies. That's how Hollywood was created. They had to move to LA because Thomas Edison was trying to take up, because he had created the movie camera.
Starting point is 01:07:00 But then there were like a lot of little Jewish, like, you know, immigrants going, I want to start, we want to start doing movies. And that's how the Nickelodeons were made. The Nickelodeons were little, you know, little films you put a nickel in. Yeah. And you'd watch. And those Jewish people were like, you know, renting them out. And they were, it's so anti-Semitic, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford were anti-Semitic,
Starting point is 01:07:20 go get these motherfuckers out of here. And a lot of them went west and then started creak, Lewis B. Mayor, Warner Brothers. These are all real people, Fox, William Fox. They started creaking their own shit. You know what I'm saying? Because of people stealing all, you know what I mean? I'm just saying. But survival, it was just survival.
Starting point is 01:07:38 That's why when you see, like, the whole Jewish story is heavy. Like they were getting their ass is whooped And they go let's create our own shit Same with black folks Creating creating Look at all of American music All of it Blacks people oppressed
Starting point is 01:07:54 We create country music Country music is black So absolutely Fuck all that shit Yeah It's black It was poor black people singing And poor whites were like
Starting point is 01:08:01 I won't sing too You know Bluegrass We call it blue grass It's black It's black It's African It's African
Starting point is 01:08:10 There's a museum in Scottsdale, Arizona, of all places, called the Museum of Instrumental Music. It's MIM. I think they have one in Austria. When you walk in there, it's all the instruments from their original origin.
Starting point is 01:08:25 From every continent, they divide them all in. Africa is the biggest one, of course. They have Australia. If you look at Australia, they have video of the actual instrument being played. Australia, you gotta see Australia. Fuck you up.
Starting point is 01:08:38 They show the Aborigines. Okay. And so everybody's like, who are they? They go, those are the original Australians. And they're playing the did you redo? They're playing all these instruments that people thought it was white. And it's the, they show the black people with their tribal marks. And it's just them.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And I go, the original shit. And then when you walk into another place, there's the original banjo, the banjo, African. So all these hillbillies have been going, da-da-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-dang-n-n-dang. Playing an African instrument. You understand? man. So all of that is like all of that they don't want, that's why this administration say we got to stop black history. We got to ban all the books because they don't want you to know what the
Starting point is 01:09:22 fuck has been done, what they did. Because most of, let's be honest, most of black American history is about being shit on. Oh, absolutely. That's all they were being. It's being shit. And it's, and that's why they go, we don't want to talk. No, no, no. We need to talk about it. You know why we need to talk about it. We got to understand why you're still acting that way right now. You have to know history, and I don't want to sound corny, you have to know history to assess how a motherfucker is now. Why do you act like that? Where's this coming from?
Starting point is 01:09:50 Well, we just move on. No, but you call me the N word. I need to know where it comes from. Oh, gotcha. So that helps me to be able to navigate. Yeah. You understand? So it's like, okay, if you go to the doctor, what's the first thing they pull out?
Starting point is 01:10:05 What's the first thing they pull out? Your insurance form. I know some real shit, though. We can't help. But the first thing they pull out is your medical history. Yeah, absolutely. They go, oh, and they make you go, you fill this out. Have you had?
Starting point is 01:10:19 Do you take, it? It's all history. Yeah. The dentist to bring out, okay, when you was last here, let's see, that's the same thing. But for us, it's always just, can we just move? But everybody else's history gets talked about. But us is like, oh, here we go with the black shit. Well, you're enjoying half of our shit.
Starting point is 01:10:38 you're enjoying black shit every day. Every day. You just got back from a Beyonce concert. And you're mad about history now? You just, Beyonce comes from this pain. Yeah. Jay-Z comes from, where do you think hip-hop comes from? Right.
Starting point is 01:10:54 It comes from pain. Black people were doing it. It was black folks rapping. Period. Jazz, black, everything. Sky, ska music is, it's Caribbean rock and roll. And it was a lot of white band. playing the shit.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Punk rock is black. You can look at the, you can look at the band called death documentary that predates to Ramones. Black shit. Stop. Rock and roll. Most of what Led Zeppelin stole.
Starting point is 01:11:20 They got sued for plagiarism. No white guy goes, I'll be your back door, man. That's a black riff. Hey mama, that's black. White guys don't talk about that. His name is James Brown.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Hey, baby. That's a black riff. Yeah. When you go, baby, That's black singing. It just is what it is. Yeah, yeah. The only reason why we say it like that, we got to express it
Starting point is 01:11:43 because you have been putting us down so much. But the very thing you're playing is the people you hated are the ones that created it. Because anybody that plays music, you have to go through black people. All of them. They'll all tell you. Oh, we started listening to Muddy Waters and we start listening to the temptation. I watch a lot of rock documentaries. You know that new documentary, Yacht Rock?
Starting point is 01:12:07 You know about yacht rock? I know what Yacht Rock is. It's just like Michael, you know, Michael McDonald. Yeah. You know, what a fool, believe. All that shit. Skags, Baskags. All of that shit.
Starting point is 01:12:20 George Benton, all that. Like, it was like soft rock, but not too soft, but funky. I'm watching it on, it's a great, it's a great doc. And I'm watching it. And these guys created this, these, they did these skits about yacht rock. They made it up. And they have these captain's hats and they play this music on this boat. And it was just that type of music.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Soft rock, but not, but rock, but doesn't rock too hard. And it's right in the middle. And Michael McDonald and Christopher Cross are main people from there. And then I'm like waiting. I'm like, I'm waiting for the black part. And so I'm waiting and go, basically we're playing like black fuck. I told you. Of course you are.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Why's what we love Michael McDonald? Because he has a black sound to him. A lot of people didn't even know Michael McDonald was black until I found that out. They didn't know Billy Paul. was Bobby Caldwell. Yeah. Yeah. But that's some of you a favorite song and they didn't know. Hullin'Oats. They're from Philly. I read a whole thing about it. There used to be
Starting point is 01:13:16 this really good magazine called Wax Poetics. WP. They got rid of about like alternative shit like underground hip. It was a dope-ass magazine I used to get from Barnes & Noble. And I was reading about Hall of Notes and they go, we learned our shit from the temptation. They used to take us on the road. Motown. The Philly sound. Philadelphia. The sound of Philadelphia. T-S-O-P?
Starting point is 01:13:36 It was all the padula bells And we learned from them I go of course you did Because you play like them Right And but I don't What I don't understand is the same people You plur from you don't like
Starting point is 01:13:47 I don't that's a weird That's a disease That's a psychosis to me Tony Morrison said it best What are white people without racism What are you? Are you any good? You're just out there strung out
Starting point is 01:13:59 What are you without it? I mean what are you? Irish Yeah Irish I know, you look very Irish. Rory, I was like, yeah. Rory McCallagher said, well, you look very honest.
Starting point is 01:14:15 But the Celtics, the Celtics come from Africa. Celtic Celtic, Celtic history is African. If you know about the Celtics, it's African. Shit, you look it up and really read, yeah, it's African. So, I mean, but then the story of St. Patrick's day, that snake thing had to do with the pygmies. had to do them getting the pygmies out of that area. And it was an Irish historian that said it.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I was like, what? He goes, he didn't drive out the snakes. It was the African pygmies that were there. That's where it came from. So, I mean, a lot of people got a- We tried to change it to getting the British out of Ireland. I know the original story. Right, it's the Africans.
Starting point is 01:14:56 But we changed it to make it fun. Yeah. I'm saying, tricksies. But the oompa lupas in Willie Woon are black slaves, but they change it to green people. Yeah. I just read all the shit. Just look it up.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I go, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, man. So it's like the history of us and society. Yeah. It's been fucked up. So when we talk about our history, it's all about you fucking with us. Yeah. And then, but the fact that we create this cold ass shit called jazz and blues and bebop and gospel and sketch,
Starting point is 01:15:32 that's a, that's a magical shit. to me and then you profit off of it. Right. You could at least say thank you because they go, because like, you know, when you talk about this, people go, you don't like white people. I said, why are you going to there? Why, you just uncomfortable? I'm talking
Starting point is 01:15:48 to you. I don't like white people. I don't like your behavior. It's the behavior. I judge people by, there's black people I don't like. What you talk about? Absolutely. I judge people, but you're so caught up in not owning up to anything and learning that you're, it's the guilt shit. You don't like white people,
Starting point is 01:16:04 Really? Is that what it is? I go, I shouldn't like you. At least I got reason. At least I got reason to not laugh. I really have a reason to not fuck with you. But I'm not like that. You know? But you don't have a reason to hate us.
Starting point is 01:16:19 You just do. You just out of nowhere. I don't like you. Why? Just don't like you. Huh? What kind of sense does that make? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:29 But you all up in our soup, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You all up in our soup, though. Yeah, yeah. And I even said, okay, segregation, that's fine. Well, let's have segregation then. But this time it has to be equal, though. You can't come and burn our towns.
Starting point is 01:16:43 You can't come and ride it with your sheets and, Yee-Ha! That's, that day's over. You ain't going to try that this time. Yeah, no, no, no. You ain't coming back a lot. That's facts. You're not doing that, yeha-ha shit here.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Second Amendment exists. Yeah, yeah. It's no good when the rat, it's no fun when the rabbit gets the gun. And motherfuckers are gunned up. Yeah, that's a fact. And I've seen these videos where everyone's like, man, come now, dog. Yo, man, we're ready for all this race bullshit. If you ready for that smoke, dog, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:17:11 We have switches. Yeah, yeah. But my thing is, like, they're talking about race war, but as soon as your mom or your daddy get fucked up, now you're going to be like, wait, stop. Yeah. Because you've done too much. And people ain't playing with you no more.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Rage is different. When it's built up, built up, you don't know what a man is capable of. Yeah. When it's right, when you're just hating off of just, when you have real, real rage and this is years of it, you're dealing with the wrong motherfucker, man.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah. You don't understand. People are tired of this kind of behavior. Women are tired of men with their shit. Same thing. Women are tired of this shit. We're tired of that. Stop.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Yeah. We're sick of it, man. Yeah. And you can see it now. We tired of that shit. There's rage. I just hate women. Why?
Starting point is 01:17:59 You came from one. I got news. I got news. for you. It means you gay. Right, right. Right. I got news for you. I mean you're gay. I got news for you. Funny as iced tea line of all time. And that's real shit. Yeah, absolutely. Like, why do you
Starting point is 01:18:14 hate them so much? Why? Yeah. Like, something's wrong with you came from one, bro? Like, it's that same thing. Yeah. But don't underestimate them. Yeah. They're tired of your shit. That's all I'm saying. I'm just like, you know, I just, that's the thing I think of. It always says, when you're conscious man, you're a dune man. That's what James Bar. Baldwin said. It's like you just when you, I read so much. I've since college, I've always read.
Starting point is 01:18:38 And you know, in Chicago, I would go see minister, the minister. I would go see them live. Yeah. So I was just learning so much shit. And I was around, you know, I had sister soldier come to our school, Stokely Carmichael, Francis Chris Wilson. We had Deruba Ben Wahad, who was actual Black Panther member with Afini Shakur. Okay. He's in the doc. You see the documentary Tupac? Mm-hmm. Of course. And he's in that. And I, he came to my college. I fucking, we'd stat with him. So I was that dude. Listening to public enemy,
Starting point is 01:19:07 Karras, like all that Brand Nubian. Yeah. Peace of the gods and the earths. Yeah. And the flat earthers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:15 And the flat earthers. Piece of the flat earth is crazy. But it was like all of that consciousness was like, and I go, pro blackness doesn't mean anti anything. It means pro. We're proud of who we are.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Right. Because you have to exaggerate your pride because people are sitting on you every day. And then the images, think about the images they show of us. So that's why we're Africans and blacks will fight because, oh, you guys are lazy. Well, you guys don't have no food. It was media.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Yeah. But now you see things are changing. Look at what Ibrahim Trioi, the brother from Burkina Faso and the Mali and they've kicked out the French. Like there's a couple of black leaders that are coming together going, we're going to have no more taking our shit anymore. Because Europe survived. I didn't know that Europe was surviving off.
Starting point is 01:20:02 African resource. When I was little, I was thinking, wow, they got diamonds and where did they get all this from? They were stealing from Africa. Yeah. They were stealing. I didn't know. The reason the UK is a small-ass island that's controlled the whole fucking continent. It's a peninsula. Europe is included himself. It could sink in 10 years. And the UK is so tiny, United Kingdom. Yeah. United with who. Right, right. It's like, you primitive Africans, really? The spear is one of the Smartest weapons ever, ever, ever invented. You can do everything with the spear, bow staff. You can do everything, hunt, you can do walk with it.
Starting point is 01:20:40 You can, and we were the primitive ones. Right. It's like, but I understand if you're less, if you're a smaller group of people, how do you control a bigger group of people? You got to find ways to divide and conquer. You got to, it's actually a brilliant, it was brilliant. Yeah. I give them credit for that.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Absolutely. Then you mentally fuck them and say you ain't shit for a long time. they start fighting amongst each other. And then they want to be like the guys in power. And it's actually brilliant. I'm mad. I'm mad, but I ain't mad at it.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Yeah, you understand it. That's the only way. It's like it's all about capitalism, money, domination. I get it. You know? But at this day and age,
Starting point is 01:21:17 like, come on. Yeah. We still doing that. We got people like, you know, you probably just your boy, you're going to back him up on anything. Like,
Starting point is 01:21:25 this is my man. I don't go, fuck what you're talking about. There's groups like that. There's white dudes that grown up with nothing but black people that are adopted by black people. And vice versa. Like, no, this is my name.
Starting point is 01:21:36 This is my man. You go fuck who you are. Right. Fuck you're talking about. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's the shit we should be on. Yeah. You work with the people that you work with.
Starting point is 01:21:47 I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars. And now, I guess also is the co-host of the away end, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist. And John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, it's hope, it's hard. its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They hold and Kay Michelle back from Friday. like Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's gonna be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King,
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Starting point is 01:25:00 On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policicic, I'm not worried about Balligan, I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Experience it all with us. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tabramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Like, I got my, oh, by the way, I got my hour special I'll be doing next week. And when is this coming out? Tomorrow. Next week, I will be doing my hour special at the Apollo. Yep.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Finally. Yeah. What day of the week is it? It's, what is it today? Thursday, Thursday, June 12th. There's a 6 p.m. and a 9 p.m. but if you guys want me on list or whatever you get.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I got my producer, Rachel Frazier, who is fantastic. She put this all together, man. Like fucking just, and I had, I had Shaq called me to kick me like two years ago.
Starting point is 01:26:25 He goes, it's time for you to do your special. He's like, let me know how much it is. I said, all right, I'll tell you, Shaq. So he goes,
Starting point is 01:26:32 and I said, I'm going to raise some money for myself, though. And I give shout out to the GoFund me. My fans were like, why don't you do it Go fund me?
Starting point is 01:26:38 I raised some money for that would go fund me. Thank you for my fans for doing that shit. And I said, let me at least contribute, you know. And then I told Shaq, I go, I said, Shaq, I'll do Sony Hall. It's about 400 to 500 people. He goes, come on, man, think outside the bucks. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Bigger. Yeah. Okay, fine. So we look at King's Theater in Brooklyn. Then we look at the Apollo. He goes, that's too big. I was like, the fuck you're talking about. How much are going to cost?
Starting point is 01:27:09 So Rachel. The Apollo Rachel puts it together Because that's what she does She's a producer Line producer She does all that shit She knows all the business
Starting point is 01:27:17 So she put down a whole schematic Of what it's to cost The over everything to detail Send it to Shaq No man Too much And then he sends me His fucking
Starting point is 01:27:29 Of what he did You know Shaq All Stars Yeah I go Shaq That's not the same thing Yeah yeah You just got a bunch of comics Doing 10, 15 minutes
Starting point is 01:27:38 This is a special has to look right. You, your shit looks like you shot it. He goes, no, that's not true. I was like, dog, the fuck, man. But Shaq got me off my ass to do it. I gave him that credit. I'm still asking for some kind of money.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about for a commercial, but he kicked me off. He was like, yo, you got to start, you got to do your special. And Will I Am gave me some money. Like, I didn't ask for it. He gave it to me. He's a fan. Will I.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I am's part of executive producing it. And another brother named Rodrigo, who's just a capital venture capitalist. That was a fan of mine. He sells coke. Rodrigo, Rodriguez. He has one name, no last name. Like my boy said, I don't care if it's coke.
Starting point is 01:28:25 I'll just go. Yeah. $100, $300. But he's a businessman who's been a big fan of mine and just really contributed to. I didn't even ask. And then I, I got a great message.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Can I play that? Where's my phone? Hey, can you view my phone? Watch this. This is pretty kick-ass. I like to brag about it. But hopefully I won't have to brag and I'll be his friend and it'll just be normal to me. But I had a really nice message left for me for this.
Starting point is 01:28:55 And I don't even know him like that. But he's liked my stuff before. Mm-hmm. And it's a big deal to me. Shit. Watch this. Ready? Are you guys ready?
Starting point is 01:29:09 Yeah. This is kick ass. I want to play this. Ready? Yo, brother. Jirak here. Just checking in with you, man. I just saw your post
Starting point is 01:29:18 about about the Apollo. Dude, fucking amazing, man. I know you're going to rock that house, man. Keep doing great work, brother. Keep kicking ass.
Starting point is 01:29:35 I'm always supporting you, man. Always rooting for you to win. But the fucking Apollo? Come on, man. I love it. All right, dude. Keep killing it. We'll talk soon.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Congrats on that. The rock. That's fire, man. In the middle of a squat set. Wow. Yeah, he's like this. I'm lifting buildings right now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Just getting fucking more diesel and more rich. Listen. Future president of the United States. Absolutely. He should be. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, it's coming for sure. The rock.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Give it 10 years. The rock's done. You smell what the rock's cooking. Yeah, absolutely. I'm cooking a deficit. Yeah. We need it. He goes, let me tell you, man.
Starting point is 01:30:10 I'm going to go in. I'm going to go into Russia. I'm going to go there, tell Putin, I'm not having this shit. Plain and simple. Everyone's like, ah. Hey, Putin, do you smell what the rocks cooking? Like, remember, remember fast and furious?
Starting point is 01:30:27 Torreto. Yeah. You're under arrest, Torreto. And that's what it's going to happen. That's not a bad rock. Let me throw you off this train to prove that arrested you. I can just see the rock going, hey, we asked you about the nuclear situation. looks like you're going to get you fucked
Starting point is 01:30:43 you're going to get fucked up. Don't let me come back here to have to negotiate. The Rock is spoken. That's dope, man. That's fire. And when the Rock speaks, you're not sure if he hates you
Starting point is 01:30:51 or if he's been nice. The fact that I thought it was a mistake. I was like, I'm looking, I'm in North Carolina. I was like, the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:59 I was in Raleigh a couple weeks and I was like, yo, you see this shit? The Rock, man. And I was like, wow, that was fucking cool, man. June 12th. April 10th.
Starting point is 01:31:09 June 12, man, you can go to ticket. I think it's ticket on sale, I think it's tickets on sale. Some other. We can put a link. But ticket master, go to ticket master and just, and listen, if you're sensitive, don't come. If you don't like profanity, don't fucking come. All right?
Starting point is 01:31:24 If you're open-minded, I talk about race, I talk about religion. Just don't come if you're sensitive. I ain't got time for that shit. I want a nice audience to have fun. Don't take nothing personal. But if you don't like my style, do not come in there. Some people will come just to be an asshole. I don't want that.
Starting point is 01:31:41 I don't want to write a blog the next thing. Because I don't want to drop kick you. I don't want to drop you to fuck out you. Before we let you go, Godfrey, we need Joe because they do this all the time when the timeline to Mount Rushmore's. Who is Godfrey's Mount Rushmore's of black comics? Of comics, period. I'm wearing one.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Okay. George Carlin is that. Carlin. Well, prior Carlin, Mooney. Mooney, yeah. Let's see. Cosby, sorry, fuck what you heard.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Fuck what you heard. Comedy wise. You just told us that the women were fed up. You see, the people, and you see, and you got to say, Bob, Drew. And then that's what it did. You see.
Starting point is 01:32:27 And not even trying to sing it. And Pryor's like, man, shut your ass up, niggas shit. God damn. Is Mike Kemp still doing the prime movie? I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:32:35 I know he was talking about it. I have no idea. I feel like they shot. It's up and down. I don't know. It's in and out. because I know they had Marlin for it and they had Damon Wands for it and they had
Starting point is 01:32:43 But then they had another A British dude that was supposed to do it. His name was Lenny Lenny Henry or something And he did a really good prior Okay Say Jack God damn
Starting point is 01:32:53 Kiss my ass Shit This is a good man Suck my dick Shit Where the cocaine You know White people use the motherfucking
Starting point is 01:33:04 Jack Because you don't know These white folks can fight You can't whoop every white boy ass. Gary how fucking he sounds exactly like Richard Pryor. From Terrence Howard to Richard Pryor
Starting point is 01:33:16 there's two totally different tones. I tell you, I get no respect. What a crowd. What a crowd. What a crowd. God, we appreciate you, man. Did I did name all? I said Pryor. Yeah, Colin.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Cawlin. Oh, yeah, Mooney. And Red Fox. Okay. Yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you. My name is Red Fox.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And the one thing I want to say is wash your ass. You got to. to wash your ass. What did you think of Quincy Jones is one of his last interviews talking about prior Marvin Gay, everybody fucking each other. That was one of the wildest interviews of all times.
Starting point is 01:33:52 That was one of the wilds interviews in Frank history. There wasn't any of them. Marvin Gay. I mean, prior talked about fucking another dude. Yeah. He's like, no fuckers act like they never fuck no fuck. That's what he said. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:08 He's like, motherfuckers don't want to. they fuck no fuckers motherfuckers don't admit they got some dick in their ass I ain't know if I'm man I fuck the
Starting point is 01:34:17 shit the shit was good they too yeah we're going to move that to the intro of the episode holy
Starting point is 01:34:28 like Carl is like Earth Day fucking I'm getting tired of that shit I'm tired of that shit Earth Day you think a couple of plastic bags
Starting point is 01:34:38 I'm gonna save the fucking earth wait until he sees plastic strokes and then Paul Mooney's like oh you niggas are in trouble white folks hey be careful white women cry everybody's in jail
Starting point is 01:34:51 everybody's going to the goddamn jail oh you need he's like oh all you house niggas are scared who I don't want to be scared but I know nigga I know these white folks don't fuck with these white folks I don't trust no white nobody white Was it you that told me you went to a Mooney show
Starting point is 01:35:05 and he read the paper the entire set? That's hilarious so I'm at Caroline And he goes up to three hours. Oh my. He don't give a fuck. He goes out. He's like, I love when white people leave.
Starting point is 01:35:16 That means I haven't lost my touch. White folks always leave. They don't like the truth. I don't like the bullshit. I don't go for the goddamn bullshit. Yo, he read the paper. I think this hysterical. He was just reading the paper.
Starting point is 01:35:33 He just sitting there reading the paper. He was laughing. Of course. It's so funny. In today's news. white folks kill somebody yeah niggas are acting a goddamn fool
Starting point is 01:35:45 Mexicans are get deported legendary and yeah and red yeah those are my and I love Joan River I love old school people but you know top five they go all right but I named Mooney Prior Cosby RedFa
Starting point is 01:35:59 yeah those are like my favorites that I watch still I watch a lot of Carl and I watch a lot of Prior I watch a lot of Mooney they make me I just love it because there's just the edge and not giving a fuck fucking keeping it 100. That's my style. That's my style.
Starting point is 01:36:14 But Cosby's storytelling, ain't nobody fuck on him. Yeah. Because my wife. Yeah. And she, and then I'm so, and it was damn.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Yeah. I watched him in concert. I go, I need to get back to the lab. He did two hours on two jokes about his wife not being his friend anymore. And his best friend, it was just like,
Starting point is 01:36:32 what the fuck was that? Masterclass. Yeah. And I thought my wife was my friend and my car. And then said, said I didn't see you I'm not gonna talk to that fuck yeah it's too bad with all the shit but yeah quite possibly the greatest tv joke of all time was when Cosby was leaving the courthouse
Starting point is 01:36:52 and just hit him with one of those that's it yeah yeah yeah that's him let you know he's still sharp he's so funny yeah been the funniest shit I'm ever yeah that was the thing he's like yeah that used to be his shit yeah absolutely he's what the fuck like doing that coming out of the courtroom off what you're used up. And he's like, and then he just hit him with that. I was like, that was some funny shit. Because the dude that's watching the video go,
Starting point is 01:37:15 he didn't just do that. He was like, I see you. Yeah, absolutely. What about. June 12th, the Apollo Theater, Godfrey. Oh, my Instagram. On your Instagram. It's a Godfrey comic is my Instagram. And they gave me my TikTok back. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Because they banned me. Godfrey funny is my TikTok. Okay. You know, That's it. All right. Well, listen. My podcast is in Godfrey, we trust. In Godfrey, we trust.
Starting point is 01:37:41 On Gas Digital Network, Tuesday's 10 p.m. One of my favorite podcasts. Really? You guys aren't talking about. Absolutely. I was tapped. I didn't just go for the flat earth shit. I was tapped before.
Starting point is 01:37:49 I didn't know. Sometimes they don't really tell you numbers and shit. You'd be like, not knowing. They don't specifically say Rory's watching. I know. I know. Fucking Rory. Oh, that's my boy.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Rory! You're fucking taught you. Rory! That's my new drop. I love me some Rory. bring on the Rory fucking I hear this one I'm fucking lover
Starting point is 01:38:11 Godfrey thank you bro you got it you got it that was awesome love I can't wait to come back this one great This is an IHeart
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