New Rory & MAL - Episode 382 | It's Too Hot

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Rory and Mal are back fresh off a weekend where they were outside at Fanatics Fest. The Thunder won Game 7 as God answered Demaris' prayers. Jim Jones is out here making enemies out of everyone. Mal s...ays Nick Grant dropped the best rap album of 2025. We learn Cardi B is finally dropping an EP, but get worried once we learn "WAP" and "Up" are on the project. Plus, Demaris would've done anything to be in Paris for Jay-Z's surprise pop up at Beyonce's concert, and B. Simone sounds out of touch rant about being "broke" #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah. I know one thing. It's hot in New York. Listen. It feels like do the right thing outside. You remember watching do the right thing? That's what it feels like. You feel the heat from the TV?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's watching me one of them weeks, man. A lot of people getting killed. Yeah, you know how I go. But you're saying that. But you took flights to change the forecast. Yo, listen, I saw him all on Saturday, right? He hits me today and says, yo, my flight was delayed.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I'll be there at this time. I said, I just saw you on Saturday. I just saw you Saturday. Did you take a day trip on a plane? A little quick one day in and out of time, man. Paris real quick, go see Beyonce. Something light. Rory asked me if I went to Paris.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I'm like, Rory, if you think I went to Paris for a day and turned around, you're crazy. That's the life of Moldo. No, it's not. That's a sick turnaround. Flying from New York. Is that even possible? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 You could definitely fly to New York for the day. To Paris to the day from New York. How long is the trip to Paris? Same as London. About six, seven hours, maybe. Nah, you're definitely going past your 24 hours at that point. Yeah. Getting your luggage, going to see Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You got to turn back around. If you catch the first flight out in the morning from New York. Well, I thought he happened to get with Jay. Well, that's what I said. assumed when he had Mald said that, but then he was like, oh, we were waiting on the runway. I was like, they would never do that to Moll and J. Yeah. So I was like, oh, he had to fly commercial.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I thought I flew to Paris with Jay for his set? Yeah. I promise you, I did not do that. We were all together Saturday and then he popped up in Paris. I was like, Mall probably won't win. Nah, no, definitely didn't go to Paris. Would have loved it been there. Seven hours, 30 minutes plus to six hours ahead.
Starting point is 00:05:01 No fucking way. That's a crazy turnaround. That's a crazy turnaround. Yeah, no. I don't love Beyonce that much. I said, I don't love Amara that much. Yeah, yeah. Paris for the day?
Starting point is 00:05:11 I love Beyonce that much. I did it. To fly out for a day? That's crazy. To see Jay-Z perform niggas in Paris in Paris? Yeah. Yeah, but not. If I'd had to use my own wings
Starting point is 00:05:21 to get there, I'd have did it. For one day? Yes. I'll stick to the footage. I'm not, yeah, I'm not doing that. Like private? Cool. But.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, if you fly, if you got to, if you fly in private like that, oh, then that's, that's great. That's like. Out of flu economy. No, you're crazy. Stand by. You're crazy. I'll catch you at my life.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah, like, I'll catch you on. on where I caught it at, Instagram. Like, or I just won't go. Yeah, like, are you crazy? Nah, no, I'm not doing that. All right, well, you took a little day trip. You know, we won't have to say what location, but yeah. A little tight turnaround.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, a little turnaround. I just wanted to go support a friend for the day. He opened the store down. Well, I'm not going to say where I was at, but he opened the store. So I went just to go support for the day and came right back to New York. That's all. He's hiding the support. Yeah, like, damn.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Why you ain't support that nigga? Tell us about him. You're not there no more. No, no, no, no. You're here. No, my boy opened the store. You don't want to say, like, the name? Of the store?
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah. Do I have to? Well, I don't know. Do they give us money for an ad? No. You know him and be some own friends, me. Did he open up, do you open a boost mobile? No, no, he did.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I wish he did. No, he did not. Yeah, no, I just wanted to support my home boy and came back. Okay. Yeah. Had a little fun, too? Nah, I'm not really fun. Like dinner and back to him.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It wasn't anything crazy. I christened a kid? You did? Your godfather? Mm-hmm. Oh, congratulations yesterday. That was fun. Yeah, how was that? It was cool.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I didn't do anything. Did the baby get scared when they poured that cold water? No, she did well. Yeah, she actually did really well. And it was weird. I didn't know that they're just like pumping christenings out together. Like they must have got a group rate. Yeah, it's like, it's like when you go to Habachi.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Exactly. Like they got to wait for like other families to come sit down. That's exactly what it was. They wait for other families to come sit down. Like, no, no, we got to wait. Three more. Then we're on the other family's time of like, is everyone here yet? They're like, no.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I'm like, but we're ready. Yeah. And we've been here. Yeah, no, you got to wait for the whole thing to fill up. And then the pastor gets to, you know, You're supposed to be my baby godfather. So who child did you get in for? You know you couldn't be a godfather more than once.
Starting point is 00:07:15 That's fine, but mine was supposed to be the first. Who's? Well, you got to hurry. We got no kids. But they were coming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Baby D. Why you know me so good? You saw what I was about to get into, baby. You know? Snashed a word on that nigger throat for real. I was like, I'm like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:38 baby, I was about to fry you up real quick. I was about to light you up, baby D. I'm in them close friends now. Thank you, baby D. I know all your business now.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I know if they're a fun community. Oh my God. I'm so happy. I'm in baby D. Close friends now. Welcome. I didn't know. She didn't have me
Starting point is 00:07:54 and she let me in the club finally. Like I ain't, baby D, I ain't snitching. I ain't saying nothing. I'm just watching. I'm just watching. I ain't saying.
Starting point is 00:07:59 What's so crazy? Somebody I met for the first time on Saturday. They text me that you were in her close friends. Like this was national news apparently. I'm in Baby D close friends. Shout out to me making it to Baby D close friends. It was an accident, my nigga. You was not supposed to be in here.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Damn, I'm kicked out. Yo, that's, come on, baby. Bro, I looked in that shit. That's just saying, Mar-the-law of you. I said, how the fuck did mall see this? Yo, I'm like, what the fuck? I ain't even respond. I ain't even make my, you know what I'm in a cut.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'm just chilling. Same way if I go out somewhere, I'm in a cut. Y'all don't even know I'm here. I'm minding my business. I ain't saying no, but I was about to fry you up real quick off that comment. I appreciate that. The children went eventually. The children are our future, yes, baby.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But who's whose child? Not anyone that anyone would know. Oh, okay. I mean, you knew them for a while? Yes, it's preschool. Oh. Like, you know, baby. You know how long you knew this first.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Like, my mom went too. Oh, all right, all right. Oh, so this was a real christening. Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. Yeah. And the whole time I was thinking, like, should I bring a Mara? because that would be great.
Starting point is 00:08:59 They both get along. That's like one of her best friends now too. It's cute and all that. But I'm like, she's going to ruin this christening. Yeah. I was right. Yo, Rory, I love Rory because he's such a great dad. But what Rory has to learn is everything is not for the kid.
Starting point is 00:09:12 We were at Fanatics Fest Saturday. No, fuck. We get in there, Rory was like, yo, and I thought about bringing Amar for us. I said, Roar, if you would have bought Amara to this, you know how crazy it was in there? Now, some areas was cool. Yeah. But we went to the 40-40 pop-up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:25 That was not for a mom. When I went to the 4-4. 4040 pop up last year, it was way calmer than it was when you and I went on Saturday. No, it looked like a 4040 this Saturday, yeah. I had 4040 would have said this is at capacity. I thought the booth walls were going to fall down. It was crazy in there, my. I was looking for the fire marshal.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I was like, is this up to code? Because I feel like I'm going to die in here. Who invited y'all? Because I was wondering what a fuck y'all ain't invite me. Who invited y'all? Where to 4040 pop up? To Fanatics Fest. Well, Sean was in town.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Shout to Sean. I went to the Yankee game with Sean. Was that Friday? Went to the Yankee game with Sean Friday. Sean is from Baltimore. The Orioles and the Yankees were playing. And the fucking Orioles won. Like, look.
Starting point is 00:10:10 We got y'all the next night, though, Sean, kicked your ass. Nah, no. But we went to the Yankee game Friday. And then when I was at the game, Sean was like, yo, y'all come into Fanatics Fest tomorrow. I was like, I didn't really plan on it. Sean was like, nah, pull up. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Chop it up, whatever. I was like, I bet. Rory gets there. Rory gets there, he's like, yo, I'm on my way and I'm going to get there about 2 o'clock. I was like, I don't know if I'm going to get there that early. I wasn't going to go. Once I found out it was over at 7, I'm like, all right, it's like 3.30. Oh, my God, I could pull up.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So I went, met Rory there, Sean was there, seen a bunch of my homies. It was cool. It was a good day. It was a lot of people I hadn't seen in the minute from the city. So it was cool popping out. A lot of rock chains, a lot of secret handshakes amongst them, you know. I was just a cool outside of it. It was just, yo, I haven't seen my homies in the minute.
Starting point is 00:10:54 What's up, man. how y'all been that. So it was a good day, though. And I will say, I'm glad that it's not just us that has the view of you never going outside. Because, you know, a lot of people that know you from Rock were like, yo, where's Mall at? I was like, oh, you're on the way. Like, no, he ain't. Everybody, no, he ain't.
Starting point is 00:11:12 That's because, you know, if you hit me, like, yo, pull up, like, I'm about the head over there. And I did the gold couch photo shit. And I told Lenny, I was like, oh, well, like, when Mall get here, we'll do the Roy and Maul. He's like, no, ain't coming. Yeah, man. That's bad when niggas know I'm not like pop, but I like that though. I like that when I do show up, it's a surprise.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Like, yeah, that means if anybody's looking for me, they ain't going to know where I'm at. Even when I was, I was next to Vaughn and said, I'm about to go grab Mall at the door. He said, mall is not here. Yeah, yeah. It was cool, though. It was definitely cool seeing the homies. We had a good time, man. It was a lot of fun in there.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah. Happy y'all did. Yeah. You had a good weekend. Everybody had a good weekend. Peach had a good weekend. What Pete's did this weekend? No.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Pete, you was playing basketball this weekend? He was in the park. We was at the 44. He was in Marcy for real. Damn. Yeah. He's like, y'all, y'all not even from Brooklyn no more.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I'm in Brooklyn. I'm still in the projects. Word. I will say, though, I haven't been outside in quite some time. Music is still the same. I was, like, waiting to hear, like, what the new records would be at parties.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Same shit. Same things haven't changed. Yeah, same music. Same people. It's the same. You don't miss. That's why I don't go out because you're not missing nothing when you don't go out.
Starting point is 00:12:22 When you haven't going out, Rory, when did somebody tell you something to happen? He was like, damn, I missed it. Oh, it's been a very long time. That don't even happen. People don't even tell you something to happen. You'd be like, damn, I should have been there. You don't even say that no more. I should have been there.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yeah. And I mean, even though I had a good time and it was good to see a lot of people I hadn't seen in a minute, I left the 40-40. Like, that was a cool event. I probably could stay-home. Yeah. Definitely could have stayed at. I mean, I had fun. But it's cool sometimes just getting outside and, you know, hanging out with the homies for a little
Starting point is 00:12:52 while but then everybody had a party that night and I was like yeah I'm definitely not doing no no after parties that's not happening came to say what's up had some water smoked a little weed right back to the crib saw say Vaughan oh yeah yeah I mean Seyvon kicked it for a little bit shout to say Vaughan that was fun yeah it was good to catch up with him but other than that it was just regular I mean chasing first choice DJ but the D's before I'm not here to like disrespect them but it's got to be weird like playing 75 JZ songs in a row for JZ Z. Like the whole time, like, maybe like, I'm sure Jay Z likes other music besides himself. Definitely like other music beside themselves, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Like, you really think Jay Z wants to hear empire state of mind right now? Yeah, that's awkward. And nobody in here wants to hear. Like, once Choice and Chase got out, I was like, oh, thank God, new music. Like, and I love a Jay Z set. Don't get me wrong. But it got to be the right Jay Z set. Yeah. Not Empire State of Mind. You don't play that on the J set. Like, you don't, you get into the Kuff up a lump where I'm from. I don't want to hear Forever Young at 2 p.m. at Fanatics in the Javitt Center. No, they were playing that. No, I'm exaggerating with her. Empire State of Mind definitely played.
Starting point is 00:14:02 If somebody would have put on Forever Young, I would have fucking walked out of the Javit Center. Forever Young at a party is crazy. But yeah, I don't know, it was cool. Good day. So West Coast Wilson, Elliot Wilson. Oh, really? Yeah, so West Coast Wilson, man. Shout out to West Coast.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Whenever West Coast is on the East Coast, it's always good to see him. Shout out to West Coast, Wilson. He hit me, everyone hit me Sunday. Are you going back? No. Yo, you're going back? It's funny as shit. One day is enough for me.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But shout out to Fanatics Fest. It was packed. It was good to see, you know, a lot of people there at the 40-40 pop-up. Shout out to the family, everybody that I saw Saturday. It was good to see people. And the weather was great Saturday. It wasn't too hot. It wasn't too crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Today is just a whole different thing, though. Today is, it's like walking outside into the oven and the bathroom when you had the hot water running in the shower for like 20 minutes. And we live in New York City. So it's like after you had to hot water running when you just took the shit. And then there's garbage on the sidewalk. And now we have the garbage. Now we have when the garbage cooks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:06 From being on the sidewalk all day, we at that level. Just summertime in New York. Halal exhausts just pumping out. It's just stink. You know what I mean? You get home. You got to take a shower immediately, especially if you have on shorts because you feel like all the bus exhaust and car exhausts flying on your legs and your legs and your. You know, it's just nasty times.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Wash your ass is all I'm saying. Is this a safe space? This is a very safe space. No, it ain't. Um, okay. This is a, yeah, you let some people tell it, right? Is it gay? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Whenever you gotta leave with that, whenever you got to leave with, yo, is it gay? That means you already think it's gay. Is it gay that when I saw Tom Brady, I said, wow, he's bigger than I thought. Oh, my God. Oh, my. That might be beyond, Kay. Like, you might have to go to Pride Week. Like, you might have to go, like, you might need a float in the parade next year.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Hey, oh. You ever like. P's, this is what you answer? I'm coming now. I want to. Hey, I got two more weeks. Yeah. Yo, that is nasty.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You ever had, like, a thought that you didn't even control and then, like, question yourself in your own brain. Like, I thought to myself in my head. Why did I just think that? Yeah. Nasty. Nasty. Nastyness. Like, I shamed my.
Starting point is 00:16:20 myself in my head. Like, why would that be your first thought? See, that's good. As long as you shame yourself from the thought. The natural reaction. I know he's one of the greatest athletes of all-time NFL quarterback, but I just, I, that's a unit, man. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Unit. Oh, Jesus. The only man, that unit is crazy. Fucking sick. He's a unit. Oh, have some shame, will you? I mean. But he's also standing next to Mark Wahlberg, who I thought.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Another unit? Yes. But I said, smaller than I thought. Hey. All right, bro. You was just having... They'll still whoop my ass, but I didn't know we, like, I was told them. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:17:03 That is crazy. But yeah, that was... That's what you was at the fanatics fest thinking of your head. And you know what made it even gayer? I was holding a duce espresso martini. Oh, yeah, yeah. At that point, you might as just put on some leather chaps with the ass out. And I ordered it because I was like, I didn't know those existed, and I ordered it to hate.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And then I took a sip and I was like, this is delicious. I was like, cognac and this is not. I was like, hmm. Yeah, they did something. Pretty good. Pretty good. Started tingling. Baby D.
Starting point is 00:17:36 When you was that Saturday? You saw the close friends. I went to, so I went to, I went to Jersey to the spa, to Sojo Spa, was in their infinity pool and sauna and all of those. things. Just really relaxing. And then I went to dinner. Me and Alex got taken to dinner. And we- Me and Alex got taken to dinner because people know that we're a package deal. And then we got taken to a strip club. And we were at the strip club. It was empty. It's some strip club called Dream. That's how I know I'm not an outside girl no more. I didn't even know that existed. It's in Queens or in the city? In Queens. So we went there and, you know, we got, we had some money
Starting point is 00:18:14 through some money and went home. You do, you on Alex's money? or? Nah. No, they got, here when they said, we got taken to dinner and they got taken to a strip club. Don't you love when they're a package deal? That means Boots Mobile followed them around. Yes. Shout out the Boots.
Starting point is 00:18:31 For sponsoring Baby Dee's dinner and strip club night. Shout out the Boots Mobile. Unlimited talk, texting data for $25. I mean, that's how she uploaded the video to her called friends. Yeah. Yeah. All that data. Unlimited data.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Absolutely. So it was cool. I had a good night. I was home by. two o'clock. Mm. Baby D. Baby D was home by two.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I know. I know. No one of the strip club was empty. You went at 7 p.m. Yeah. No, we went, we literally went at 12 and I was like tired. I was yawning.
Starting point is 00:19:01 T.T. ain't can't be out that late no more with these Y ends. I can't. Mm-hmm. T. Mm-hmm. Anyway. Halliburton,
Starting point is 00:19:10 damn. Hayda had to be in. Halliburton, damn is hilarious. It's a damn shame what happened to Tyrese, ain't it? Yeah. Damn. Another one bites the dust. Well, Tyrese Hallibur.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Don't say that. Well, he blew his, that's what? The ninth of killies tear this year? As much as I hate him, I don't want to see his career end. No, I don't either, but that's... It's still fuck him, but like I hope for a speedy recovery. Well, first and foremost, before we do that, congratulations to the OKC Thunder on their first championship.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Thank you for beating the Pacers. Shout out to Shay on an incredible season, one of only four to achieve what he did this year. So shout out to him on an incredible, incredible. considerable season. But also prayers to Tyrese Halliburton. Did they announce it that he blew his Achilles? Yeah. So it's been announced that. I felt like that after game five when he was grabbing his leg. I'm like, anytime you see an athlete grabbed that lower leg, non-contact, you just fall. It's something tricky there. But last night he did, he did
Starting point is 00:20:06 tears Achilles. So prayers to Tyrese Halliburton, speedy recovery, healthy full recovery to him. And it's just sad to see him go down like that last game of the season. and now he's going to miss another, an entire upcoming season. So was that the most boring finals that went seven games in the history of the NBA? It was definitely, because I was telling somebody, this might be the first time that the finals were on. And I wasn't in front of the TV when it started. But like nobody gave a fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:39 For all seven of the games, I may have caught second quarter. I missed the first quarter in every one of these games. Of course, New York bias. alert, I'm curious to see what the numbers were between the Eastern Conference Championship and the NBA Finals as far as viewership. Oh, no. The viewership. I'm curious what it was.
Starting point is 00:20:56 The viewership between the Knicks and Pacers was probably three times higher than the finals, without a doubt. It just says what it is. The rivalry, the history between the Knicks and Pacers alone makes it, you know, TV, must-see TV. Yeah. And Ben Stiller was there. Yeah, I mean, come on, anytime you got Ben sitting course, I got to watch. But, you know, not to take away nothing from the finals.
Starting point is 00:21:19 No, congrats. Good to see, you know, a team that never wanted finally win. And, you know, shout out to the OKC, man. I don't know what they're going to look like next season, though. Because a lot of teams make it moves. Kevin Durant's in Houston now. Well, I mean, is the rumors true that you were the one that, in fact, told him at Fanatics Fest that he had been traded? That's, that's rumors.
Starting point is 00:21:41 There was things spiraling around. I didn't even see it. I didn't even see it. I heard you. you broke the news to him. No, I did not break the news to him. By the loading dock. He was just like, yo.
Starting point is 00:21:52 No, I didn't see K.D. But I did see that he was there. So shout out to KD. I saw a Dremont. Yeah, it's on scene. Dreymond at the 44. Label, mate. Yeah, shout out to Draymond.
Starting point is 00:22:01 But yeah, this series, this, I don't know what the NBA is going to do, man. I think the NBA is in a bad spot. I'm going to be honest. Like the viewership, you know, once the guys like LeBron, Steph, KD, once these guys are done, I just don't see that next. Because as much as I love Shea's game, I think he's a great player. I just don't know if it's box office, if it's must-seat basketball.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Anthony Edwards may end up being that. We'll see. But I'm with you. The same way I feel about rap and superstars, I feel the same way with the NBA. Things are just changing. I love Lucas game. I don't know what his game looks like in L.A. Yeah, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I just, you know, just thinking about the fact. that this is the first finals where I missed the first quarter in every game. Didn't rush to get to the TV. Like, you know, when the finals is on, you, you're at the TV. You want to, you mad if you missed the first quarter. It was in the background yesterday. Like, I'm not, I know when the game is on
Starting point is 00:23:00 and I'm just like, I'll kiss the second quarter. Like, it wasn't like I had to watch the game. Now, the games were good. The games were, you know, close for the most part, but it just wasn't it wasn't must-see TV for me, but I am happy that OKC1. I
Starting point is 00:23:16 didn't want them to win, so I'm happy that they want. I feel like Jim Jones got more traffic over the weekend than the NBA finals. Yeah, yeah, I think so. What's up with our God, man? Listen, love Jim. Friend of the show. New York legend, Harlem legend, Bronx legend. But Jim got to be trolling us at this point, right?
Starting point is 00:23:37 He got to be trolling us. This was the thing. When I saw the clip initially, I was like, oh, had to have been taken out of context. Let me watch the entire thing. no same as the clip yeah but he got to i was like now there must be another point here whatever now he doubled down on it now because he just see this is why i know jim is trolling because he posted a video of him when he first woke up in the bed and he was laughing like you know like look all i got to do is say something and i'm the talk of the town that was the day of i think summer
Starting point is 00:24:05 jam you know i mean the day of summer jam so yeah jim is just trolling man jim but i love that he initially said that let's pull out jimma jim jim but i love that he initially said that let's pull out the billboard submissions and everything. And then that was debunked within out of 0.001 seconds. Yeah. And then Jim came back to say, y'all was wrong about that,
Starting point is 00:24:24 but everything else I was fucking right about. I was like, Jim is bugging, but I fuck with him. He's trolling, man. Jim is having fun, man. He just, he knows how to get the internet going.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And, you know, listen, man, that's just the time that we're in now. It's just, you know, just shake the internet up, get everybody talking. Well, with the rumors that Naz may be, like,
Starting point is 00:24:42 may be on this clips album, we're not sure. Do we think that's why Jim's just randomly shooting at Nas? No, I think him... Like, where is this even coming from? I know he was talking with Joe and Jada about the, but like, why hone in on Nas?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Him and Nas have always had a little... He was on the Coofy list? Yeah, they had a little funny. They've always had a little funny energy between them. I don't know where it is today, but years ago, Nause even addressed it. Like, why would I ever even... Dissed, like, why would I sit down to take time
Starting point is 00:25:09 to diss Jim Jones, like, that type of thing? What was initially Cam and Nas? and then obviously Jim being loyal, hopped in, but he just kept, like, even Cam was like, nah, we're cool now and Jim's like, nah, fuck that. Yeah, yeah, they've always had a little weird energy between them.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So maybe that has something to do with it, but I think, you know, like, Jim is just, he just, he know how to get shit going on the internet and that's what this is about, man. It's about, you know, getting traction, getting attention on the internet and, you know, doing what you got to do
Starting point is 00:25:36 as a result of getting that traffic. I mean, he said it on his IG story yesterday, initially, like it was a troll. Of course it was a troll, man. It was like, this is how you get the headlines, which, but I mean, I, all right, cool, I get it. That's the game now. I mean, like, even with certain titles for our YouTube, like, you play the game. But, like, why that's such a weird, wanted land on. No, but that's why I knew it was trolling when he said it. I'm like, Jim knows that that's not true. He know he don't have more Billboard entries than Nas.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Like, he knows that. He knew that before when he said it. It is not like he thought he did. Like, he know. As an artist, you know how many billboard entries you have versus an artist like Nas. You know that you don't have more entries than Nas. And Jim is super smart. That's how I know that was just in the moment thing because his explanation didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He's like, my son can't name a nod song. I was like, okay. A lot of sons. can't name your song. Where are we going with this? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's just true, man.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But it was fun to watch, man. It's entertainment. That's all it is. Did you see that Stiles and Jada are kicking him out of the meteorology world? Even though they're all being friends. I think something is a foot. No pun intended. Stiles and Jada doing the weather now?
Starting point is 00:26:47 They said, it's over for Jim. Stiles said my foot can't even go that fast. But I would like to see Stiles and kids do the weather. back and forth on the humidity versus the barometer You know in the seat You know what I'm saying Like I mean
Starting point is 00:27:06 Listen You know you guys know how much I love Jim And how much I think the second half of his career Has been incredible He has been going after Stiles P
Starting point is 00:27:14 Push a T and Nas Look at the three That Jim landed on Listen They're a real big three probably Those are just three People
Starting point is 00:27:24 You should just leave the fuck alone Like T styles and Nas Yeah Like Yeah, that's a tough three to rap against. That's a tough three. You can have a hard out with those three, for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Even Hove would be like, all right, the three of them, no, I think I'm cool. Yeah, like, that's kind of, at the same time, yeah, that's tough. You don't want that problem. But, I mean, we'll see. We already know that there's a Jim diss coming on the clip shit from the Whips and Chain song. So I don't know. Since Jim already replied to that because it was a leak, are you allowed to re-reply once it goes on TSP's? I mean, once somebody dissed you.
Starting point is 00:28:00 You can respond whenever, however you feel. At that point, I don't think it's any rules to that. If you feel like you want to keep engaging that beef, then you'll do that. I don't know if Jim would, though. I don't know if he, just because it's out now, I don't think he cares to. Maybe not in the song. He might get on IG and laugh a little bit and crack some jokes. It was like he did when he sat down with bootleg kev at the BT.
Starting point is 00:28:23 By Ace Trumpets, he was like, I don't believe him. It's not a good song. I don't believe him. I don't believe nothing he's saying. So, like, things like that, I think Jim, I don't think he'll get in the booth and, and rap and rap. I gave up on that a long time ago. Push in Jim? No.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Like, like, believing rappers. I just, I don't even like care anymore. Does it sound good? Well, yeah. Of course, authenticity will always be the number one thing and you can see the difference when it's there. But, like, I don't particularly care. It matters, though. I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It does, but it's not the end of it. be awful. No, it's not. And I'm not saying about Push mouths. I have no fucking idea of what their actual real life stories is. I just know Push says that shit better than 99% of rappers when it comes to the Coke talk. But here's, this is where it gets true. And why should, why would I be the one to be like, is it authentic? I feel you. But it gets tricky when say somebody like, and I'm not saying Puscher did or did anything in real life. But somebody like Puscher, you know what his content is. You know what his style is. if none of what he's saying is really
Starting point is 00:29:33 he really did any of that versus somebody who maybe doesn't rap as good as Pusher but talks about the same thing and really did it but those are few and far in between it again I don't want to make this a Pusher thing
Starting point is 00:29:49 but like GZU was like yeah he probably did that shit and he could rap well but there's plenty of guys that did that shit and they suck at rap so I don't really give a fuck and like at what point point do we, what's the amount of brick that allows you to talk about it? Like, do I think push was a kingpin? Probably not, but I'm sure he probably sold Coke. So what's the, where are you
Starting point is 00:30:09 allowed to talk about it and not? I mean, it just depends on. There's 92 bricks like we're over, under. All right, so we got to go back to what hip hop has always been. It's always been about telling your story. Yeah. Or your experiences in what you see and what you, so you want to be as close to authentic and as close to real as possible. Now it's entertainment. So when you throw the entertainment value in it, you embellish some things and you dress some things up to make it entertaining. But the foundation of what you're writing and what you're saying in your songs and in your rhymes,
Starting point is 00:30:41 the foundation has to be as close to authentic and real as possible. I agree, but they're also entertainers that do I think Nellie had the street sweeper in St. Louis and was clearing out blocks? No, but I think the hook's incredible. then you also get some real authentic shit from him too but yeah of course embellish you got to embellish you got to embellish man Hokkogen didn't have 40-twitch python
Starting point is 00:31:04 you know what I mean he didn't but fuck he was in the gym he looked great listen I still believe that Kisses bathtub flips over Wall's doing 360 I do believe that okay so that's why like when Jay Juan tweet that's my guy
Starting point is 00:31:18 but like oh you had Wall's doing 360s when he was growing up Like, I just knew what KISS lived and I knew that wasn't real in that building. So it was like, you ever land? You know the housing codes of Westchester County and that's not up to spec? That's not real, but it's hard. It's a hard bar. It sounds great.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Like, you know what I mean? Like, I get it. But yeah, outside of the gym thing, there was a lot of great music that came out on Friday. Rhapsody Madlib, Nick Grant took it personal, incredible, incredible project. Rap album of the year so far. Yeah, I like it a lot. Nick Grant, is a lot of. personal, definitely rap album of the year.
Starting point is 00:31:57 That's not too many people that can rap better than Nick right now. I agree. Like, as far as just rhyming schemes, hooks. I love the fact that he's one of the few rappers that still does his hooks. He's just, for the type of rap and hip-hop I grew up on, Nick Grant is, and he's just an enjoyable listen for me as a personal hip-hop consumer. I just love listening to that type of rap, that type of style, that type of content. So yeah, Nick Grant, I took your personal available now.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Support real rap, support real hip hop. And, you know, yeah. So get back to ramen, man, real raps. Terris Martin, Kenyon Dixon, come as you are, came out. Talked out to Terrence Martin. Colley 47 came out. I didn't know Juicy Jay and Logic of a joint project. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:32:46 Why everybody was like, what the fuck? Okay. Shout to Juicy J. and Logic. Juicy Jay and Logic have an album? Yeah, it's called Live and in color. Live and in color? Logic knew what he was doing here.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Of course he does, man. Another What color is he? Living. He's in living color. That's what he is. That's such a random What's funny is? Like Juicy J and Logic. Because I love Juicy J's beat so much, this project might be dope.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Oh no, Juicy J. He may pull logic back a bit and, you know. You got to listen to that just because that's so random. Yeah. I gotta hear what they did. Like, let me hear what. Who introduced y'all? Yeah, like, y'all want to know the whole, like, where's they roll out their interviews at together?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Like, I want to hear how this project came about. Yeah. But I know. A lot of great music. Reason I love you again. His extended deluxe, I guess. Lecali 47. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Out now. And then Erica about doing an alchemist. Go ahead. No, no, no. I'll wait. Go ahead. Erica by doing Alchemist put out their first single for their joint project and you guys tore them the fuck apart. No, really?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Oh, they released the first single? Yes, which is great. Alchemist flipped realness beat. Erica did what Erica always does. Beautiful record. They also put out a visualizer with it that was created by AI where they're like cartoon figures. but you know, not so much a lyric video, but yeah, visual to put to the record,
Starting point is 00:34:22 and boy, did it break hip hop's heart? They wasn't filming it? They stayed till, we're never even listening to keep it thorough again. Why? They were fucking smoking alchemists. To the point that I had to go back, I was like, wait, did I miss something?
Starting point is 00:34:36 And like, this is Erica's with AI voice, and like, he took his own beat and put it through AI, and they were like telling the world that. And then they're like, no, no, no, It was the video. I was like, all right, man. You know I'm anti-AI, but the shit that they were getting over the weekend was like,
Starting point is 00:34:57 Do, what do we? There's bigger fish to fry. You saw Timberland's sorry-ass apology. Let's focus on that. Yeah. I didn't see this video, yeah. This is just normal. That's like a normal visualizer.
Starting point is 00:35:08 The people were, you know, they have to be outraged on the weekend, especially. They were suggesting that they could have hired a real artist to do this and they put somebody out of work because of it. And okay, cool, you may have a point there. But there's so many other AI issues that we have. I just don't think that a visualizer for Eric Badu and alchemist is like where we need to focus our outrage at.
Starting point is 00:35:30 People want to be upset. We've got to understand that too. They're looking for the next thing to be upset about. But I mean, I guess if I'm an artist and I create videos, I guess I could see why an artist, you know, a video, somebody that creates music videos will be upset at this. Like, you probably feel like it's lazy. It's just like, you know, I can see why they were,
Starting point is 00:35:52 the same reason why producers would be upset at Timberland for, you know, leaning into AI to make music. I can see how. Steal it. Yeah, I can see how, you know, it'll be like, nah, this is just a lazy. Like, you could have got a real person put together a cartoon visualizer for this, for this video. I can see how some people will be upset.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I get it. I understand it. Yeah, but also. I can't be upset about a rapper using AI. to write lyrics and then not understand how some people have said it. All right, then again, where do we draw the line? Because I'm assuming that Al and Erica are doing this independently. And of course, we know both of them are not short of any money, but like, AI can be useful
Starting point is 00:36:28 to independent artists when you have a specific budget. Like, yeah, I'm going to utilize AI as an independent artist. Listen, in that regard, not for the music. Right. And it's not even like to visualizer isn't even like some. shit like I was thinking like did they do some avatar shit like yeah should James Cameron have been hired instead like I was very confused on what everyone was outraged about and then I saw this I was like they didn't even color in between the lines like what are we talking about here now I'm on a flip
Starting point is 00:37:01 side I would have been upset because I would have really wanted to see Alan Eric in a real video together I'm sure there's going to be real yeah I mean I'm sure they have some visualizer shit this is some quick visualizer shit but that's what I would be saying not the fact that they use AI will be like damn I wanted to see you. y'all together in the video you know i did i did have a nice uh nice moment over the weekend though because when the internet was murdering me about the doche situation what happened now no this was when it happened oh i thought you said this weekend i'm like no no no when i just saw you like i just saw you sat there i just saw you what the fuck happened when the
Starting point is 00:37:34 internet was killing me i was in my text having a blast he thought it was the funniest thing in the world all these laughing emojis right when i saw that even though i was defending him publicly when writing and his text, I say, yeah, your turn now. Yeah, yeah. Sit your ass in the fire, all. You know, sit and get you talking to. Hot. It's hot.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah. But the song is dope, though. I like this. It's fine. Yeah, I love it. Really, really good. You know in the office when Michael goes, my, my, my turn. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:42:52 We all fucking side Can we pull up the cover? Yeah yeah Yeah no No it's just called Am I the drama? Cardi B we outside Just letting y'all know Okay so also on Friday
Starting point is 00:43:04 So we got a date September 19 September 19 Cardi B the album Long anticipated Long awaited follow up to the hip hop. AI better not have fucking done that cover.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, they really had a crore land on her. You did with Al? Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. So you were saying. She looks amazing. She looked good, yeah. All right, Cardi B. Am I out of drama?
Starting point is 00:43:30 September 19? All right, baby, Dee. What's that? That's an introspective title. Yeah, let's... I like the title. Y'all know how long I've been waiting for this. I need to follow up.
Starting point is 00:43:40 You've been waiting just to talk shit But we ain't going to get into that. Waiting to talk shit. I want to hear what Cardi's doing. Absolutely. I want to hear four album from Cardi. I'm not waiting to talk. I'm going to talk my shit now.
Starting point is 00:43:51 But I'm not waiting to talk shit. But I do want to hear what Cardi does with her sophomore project. Coming off of the success of the first one, I say it all the time. I don't know many artists, especially rap, that have had the success off of one album that Cardi has. So we definitely need a follow up. So now, okay, Cardi B. Am I the Drama, September 19th? Well, also on.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Friday. She put out, which I assume would be the first single outside. Without a video, which made me feel like it was rushed because I think Cardi's rollouts are best when they're paired with a visual. Probably because they got leaked. I mean, she had said that this wasn't planned and this and that, but I mean, we never know with that what artists are saying. We already know that there's some rumor of issues with Atlantic already. Like, was this something you think they are forcing on her right now? I think so. Like, do we think Cardi feels like she's ready?
Starting point is 00:44:46 I think Cardi may have been ready. I think that they probably, you know, whatever, because a lot of people, we know, Roy, because we just have these relationships, but I feel like a lot of people that were in that building when Cardi first arrived that are no longer there now are no longer there because they couldn't get this album out. So I feel like this album may have been done. A lot of the songs may have been done. They may have been fishing for a single.
Starting point is 00:45:12 seeing what took off what picked up steam. You know how they play that game. Like, let's throw a couple of records out and see what happens, do some features, things like that. I think they was, you know, trying to figure it out with Cardi. But I think most of this music has probably been, because Cardi alluded to the music being done for a while. A couple times over.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I think they were banking on Bongo's being bigger than a bus. I think, I think so, too. Yeah, for sure. I mean, anything Cardi does is going to be a huge budget. Yeah. Why do you think Bongoes didn't work? I don't know why, because I loved Bongo's. I thought it was a cool record.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Yeah. I don't know if it was because it was released at the wrong time. It gave summer record. If I'm not mistaken, Bongles was released maybe a little bit later in the year. I can't remember the exact date of when it was. I remember it being probably around. I was at the T's O show, probably around September of 2023 or something around that time. So, yeah, I think it would have been better as a summer record.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah, September. September is the summer. It's the end of summer. I think if they would have put it out in May, June, I think it would have been a little bit different. But I don't know why. I don't know why I didn't work. Do you all really believe that, though?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Believe what? That if a record is, quote, unquote, a summer record and it doesn't drop, like, the beginning of the summer, like, so if it doesn't take off, you can kind of lean on that, like, it was a summer record, they put it out the end of the, I think that good music is, I don't give a fuck what is doing outside. Well, I mean, anytime of a record. Because the biggest go party and shake their ass.
Starting point is 00:46:41 We don't see niggas. shake ass 365. If a record is big and it's dope, it don't matter what is doing outside. Like, it's going to be a hit. Yeah, sometimes, but some records you need to hear in certain settings. That was a Caribbean-based beat. Like, we needed to hear, we needed to see women outside in the summer shaking ass to that. But even WAP, though, being in the middle of COVID still worked.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But WAP worked for most of the reasons. WAP was huge, outside of it being a good song. and it's huge shock value. And the video was huge shock value. Like, it was just a lot. I mean, that's part the reason why I think bongos, I'm sure by data, like, if Cardi pulled up bongos, I'm sure, yes, it worked. But we're talking about, like, the momentum of going into an album.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I love Megan's part on bongos, but I think they were setting themselves up for fail. Like, how do you top WAP? Yeah. Like, even though Megan did great on that, I think Cardi should have picked somebody else for it. Because now it's like, all right, we have our expectations at this. Are we getting WAP part two? Like, I'll just go listen to WAP down.
Starting point is 00:47:50 You're just setting unrealistic expectations when you have a single like that with the two of them together. I can understand that. It is very hard at top. They smoked that video, record school. Like, they did everything right, I feel like, but it just didn't connect. I'm scared for Cardi. I'm nervous, too, just because I personally feel I don't have any information. I feel like she's being rushed right.
Starting point is 00:48:11 now. Yeah, I'm kind of, I'm nervous for Cardi for a number of reasons. Outside was, they just threw it out. Like, yeah, like I don't, it's just, it's just, it just feels weird. Because again, obviously that entire label, as far as the people that have been there that probably worked on her first project, you're no longer there. Definitely all gone. I just, that might be the difference between Kaiser and Julie versus the Grange family, because they were like, all right, when Cardi's ready, we'll put put this out. Grange's came in and you put it up. Whatever's on your hard drive, give me 14 and we're good to go.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And that's where I'm nervous because, you know, you can't rush the artist if the artist doesn't feel. And there's nothing worse. And you can attest this where you actually put music out in the marketplace. When you rush an artist and it doesn't work, that is the worst feeling for the artist. Because they're like, I didn't even want to put this shit. Didn't want to do this. Let me fail on my own.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah, like I didn't even want to do this. So for that to happen, you know, for them to put Cardi's project. out. But on the flip side, maybe she is ready. Maybe she's been ready. And yeah, she's finally getting her chances. And, you know, and now it's here. So now she's probably like, all right, cool. Like, let's get this shit out.
Starting point is 00:49:24 The only thing I'm nervous for when it comes to Cardi is female rap is not doing what female rap was doing when Cardi first dropped her album. No one is. Right? That wave has kind of, I don't want to say it's over. But the way things are marketing-wise and the success that they're, singles are having and their albums are having like all first week, it's a completely different
Starting point is 00:49:47 trajectory. The dominance is gone. Yes, it's, it's, yeah, the dominance is gone. And what I don't want for her is for her to not reach what she did previously because that's just very unlikely for anybody to reach what she did previously as far as the success of that first album, because that was an anomaly. It's not like, oh, I can do this and let me get better. Like it was like, no, you hit one hell of a lick. You had the perfect album at the perfect time and the perfect climate for female rappers. It was literally the perfect storm for that album to do what it did. And there's a good chance that no matter how good this one is, it won't hit that.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And I don't want the criticism that she's going to get from people who don't know anything about the music industry or the way that music is selling right now to get to her and stifle her creativity or make her not even want to be an artist anymore because we do know how sensitive Cardi is. So that's what I'm scared for. Do I think the album will do well? Yes. Do I think it'll do well first week?
Starting point is 00:50:41 not if they don't fix this rollout. But I do think that Cardi is known for making good music, and I think over time the sales will grow, the same way that Doche's did and that lotto's did or whatever. But I just don't want her to pay attention to metrics that don't really matter that the stands and the fans are pushing on her and for her to feel like she failed personally. No, but this is, and this goes back to, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:03 a lot of people try to paint it like I was hating on Cardi. I love Cardi from the same town. I support her no matter what. but when you have the success that she had on her first one out the gate, it's hard to match that. You can grow towards that. But the success she had off the first album, like what else is there to accomplish after that?
Starting point is 00:51:28 You get what I'm saying? It's like she got everything off the first album. The looks that she got, the awards that she got, the accolades, everything is she already has it. So now if this second album come out, and she doesn't get those things, is that a failure?
Starting point is 00:51:43 But that's why I always laying on the side of just let the music be dope. Fuck the accolades, fuck the metrics, let the music be dope. Gotta develop more as an artist like the dochi.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I didn't even know that was, you know, you know I'm terrible with titles. That anxiety record? I didn't even know that was Dochi. I had no clue that that was a Dochi song. It hit when I go in any department store that shit is playing.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And I'm like, wait, that's Dochey? I'm thinking just rap when it comes to Doche, like getting her balls off. So they hear that. This is where, why you say female rap is not because now you have to do more than just rap as a female. Give us some melodies. Give us some more pop. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Like lean a little more pop. So now I don't know who she worked with on this project. I'm sure they had the best of the best in the room with her, though. So we just got to wait to see what the, I'm not paying attention to the sales. If she gets nominated, if she, I don't, because she has all of that. me and her belt already. You know what I just don't want her to. I want the music though.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I want the music to be great. As long as the music is great, great, great job, Cardi. All right, so we just pulled up the pre-save link on Apple Music, and it appears that track 22 and track 23 are up and whop. Mm-mm-mm. Now that scares me a bit. Bodak Yellow was how old by the time invasion of privacy came out, It was a couple years, but at that time, the streaming rules were different, and that was helpful.
Starting point is 00:53:14 It went towards your total. They have now changed that rule. So had that rule still been here, I would totally get why WAP would be on this album. But the fact that that has shifted scares me, because what benefit is up and WAP being on this album really going to do in the scope of things? Now, to be fair, they are the last two tracks on the pre-order track list. so I don't know if, you know, as far as the listen of the album, if it matters. But I don't, I don't like that, though. I don't like up and why being on this album.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Can you think of a time when there was a regime change at a label and an A-lister put out a project immediately following it? I cannot think of a time. Typically, when they do their musical chairs, shit, and people become different presidents or whatever. Typically, if that president signed you, you're getting dropped because the new regime. It's like, yo, I didn't sign you. you're not my act. I'm starting to take that on. Bucardi, of course, is A-list.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So A-listers are going to stay there. It's not like they were going to drop Justin Bieber when L.A. re-left. Of course, they're going to stay. But I've never heard of them putting music out right after there's a new president and a new system. I don't know. This is all odd.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I hope it's great. Outside, I don't know if that's the one. Maybe it'll grow. Maybe with a visual. It's a cool record. And I don't know if just a cool record is, it right now. And which is
Starting point is 00:54:44 it's fucked up to say because it's, you know, how hard it is to make a hit fucking record. It's like one of the hardest things in the world. So to just say put one out, Garty is crazy to say, but I don't know if outside is the one that like is going to lead the momentum that is needed when you don't even know your new label president and
Starting point is 00:55:01 you're just announcing shit. But that's why. I like what you just said about hit records. And that's why we have to start giving more let's say applause to the artist
Starting point is 00:55:16 that consistently do that it's not easy to make a hit record consistently make hit records is not a hardest fucking thing no matter how talented you are so we got into a space where it became everything else other than the music you know what I mean like let's have a public
Starting point is 00:55:32 relationship let's you know go viral on doing this and do these dances and then it's everything dressed up around the record, the hit records. Records can't stand by themselves. The records can't stand by themselves. So now, with this situation with Cardi, again, A-list, has all the accolades already off the first album, achieve things that most people in her genre will never achieve.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Every song was on Billboard. Like, she has all of that. She had like 10 hits on that, which is insane. So now, sophomore album, first album since all of these accolades, had a lot of features in between it, good records in between it, but this is the first Cardi beat album post the success of Invasion of Privacy. Now we got to get back to where are the hit records on this album. Looking at Up and Wap being there, I don't like that, but hey, it might, it's 23 tracks, so those might not even matter. But, Ma, that's the oxymor. Like,
Starting point is 00:56:30 that's, that's, you just, what you just said was let's pay attention to music and not really pay attention to hits, but then you saying, all right, well, where are the hits? Because the two songs that Cardi dropped in between that we thought when the album we thought was coming last year, those were really, really good songs. Like, objectively, those were really good songs. And they both came with a big visual. Which songs used to them on? One of them was the freestyle and the other one was the one that she kept teasing. I can't remember exact names if Josh came up. Freestyle was dope. That's one that offset directed, right? I think he directed the video. Yeah, I think that she was hard, but it was also a freestyle. I don't even think Cardi in the label was like, this is a hit. I think it was,
Starting point is 00:57:06 let's feed our fan base in the meantime. Yeah. I don't know if that was... But they were... Like, Bongo's, they were like, we're going to treat this like a hit. I think the freestyle joint that Cardi did was just to feed the fans at the time.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Yeah. Which was hard, but like, they didn't do much post-promo after that. Okay, so yeah, one was called Enough Miami. And, like, enough. I like Enough. I like Enough or Not, a lot. And I think it was a good record. But like I said, it's really tough
Starting point is 00:57:31 with female rappers right now. And I think that they're trying to... When she's dropping these songs, they're trying to judge their immediate success off her past immediate successes. It's not even, you got to push a record, you got to let her record grow. Just because she's a superstar, treat this like this is just her sophomore album. Like, treat her like her sophomore album. They're like trying to treat her like she's fucking.
Starting point is 00:57:51 No, but no, no, no. You can't do that, baby, D. Because you can't just treat it like it's just her sophomore album. When it comes to pushing it, yes, you can. When it comes to how you push it and how you grow it, why can't you? Because the success she had on the first. She is priority. She's an A-lister.
Starting point is 00:58:05 For sure. So that you can't treat it just like a regular soap. What I'm saying is if something is not working to what you think is working immediately, give it time, put more money behind it and watch it grow. Don't just throw things out and be like, oh, this didn't go number one. On to the next. What are we doing? You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Because what we're seeing with the female rappers now is you have to give songs time to grow. You have to push them. You have to put more money behind them and give it time. You can't just say throw this out and then hit number one next. And it hit number one next. You can't do that. it's not going to work. That formula is gone when it comes to female rap dominus.
Starting point is 00:58:39 We're out of that time. But why do you, I don't even like saying female rap dom. I think rap period. Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. But I'm just talking about the years when the females were running rap. When you had the Cardi, the Megan, the lotto, like they were taking over everything. That was all you heard, all the number one songs were female songs.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Like, so that's over with that wave has like passed. So now it's like you got to treat it like regular rap where you're going to have to put some money behind it and some time behind it and some appearances behind it. and let it grow organically. Not just it hit number one like everything else did the first time. But they gave Cardi time to let, they put joints out. She had time for something to take. And that's what I think they were doing. I think they were throwing joints out trying to see what took off.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Because I do feel like most of this music that were going to hear, Cardi had been recorded this music. So I think they were just trying to see, again, because of the success of the first one, the labels had to wait until she put something. not where it looked like it even had that type of heat. And that's what I'm saying. I don't think that that's going to happen in this climate.
Starting point is 00:59:41 So they need to come up with another way. But again, if the music is good, it don't even matter. If it's not, if it's the numbers. If the numbers aren't. I mean, it matters to the label. Some, some, we're going to keep it. It matters to the label if the numbers are not where they want them to be. But as far as me just listening to Cardi's album, I just want to hear good music.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I don't even tell me what it did first week. Don't care. I want to hear good music. I'm just looking for good music coming from Cardi B. That's right. I mean, the Barb's going to tell you the sales. Oh, no, the barbs will, they'll be right there. They're going to keep clicking refresh to keep us all up there.
Starting point is 01:00:18 They're melting down in their group chats right now with the announcement. Yeah, absolutely. But, oh, no, see, now I see why you didn't go to Paris because Cardi was out there. I didn't go to Paris because Cardi was in? That's why you didn't hop on the jet with Jay. He was like, I heard Cardi out there. You know, who are all going to be there? He was nervous?
Starting point is 01:00:35 I'm not even paying y'all no mind I'm not paying y'all no mind well I mean I know we talked about a hove a lot already but that clip of him coming out at the Beyonce show was great yeah I enjoyed so it was good to see the Carter's together
Starting point is 01:00:49 on stage niggas in Paris while in Paris I'll see what you did dear Jay do we think Jay is such a genius do we think Jay is about to potentially be in the studio or release something no he don't got his chain any enough. That was just a wifey. That was a wifey. Let me get my shit off in Paris a wifey real quick.
Starting point is 01:01:13 He was that fanatics the day before, flew out that probably that night, went to Paris. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's, it ain't just, let me just hop off stage with Wiifie. Like that, there was a lot of thought. I don't think, I don't think Jay wants to be affiliated with none of this rap shit that's going on right now. I don't think he wants his music in the market space next to any of this shit. I truly don't believe that he's recording anything. I don't think he's recording any music at all. I think he always records, but it's about just catching, like, he puts together albums pretty quickly. I feel like he records all the time, and if he catches a wave for two weeks, it's like, all right, maybe I am ready to go now.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I don't, I don't think so. I don't think so. Because, you know, he could have also just been like he had an obligation with fanatics and then just went to go meet his family. That's it. What? I went to go see my wife. I had to do this shit and then I went back to the door. Yeah, but as far as him recording music and no, because and I, and then to be honest, if we being honest, we always are.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Jay is, Jay is, to me, the greatest of all time. You told me, the things that he's accomplished strictly off of rapping. He doesn't sing. He doesn't dance. He doesn't two notes. Like he, this is rap in the heights and the accolades that he's achieved as just a pure rapper unmatched. I think that he's looking at the landscape of music and rap. I don't think he would, what would a Jay-Z album do right now?
Starting point is 01:02:51 Like, what would be the point of Jay-Z putting out of album right now? Like, we're going to listen to it. The newer generation are going to kill it online. Get this old nigger out of here. Nobody want to hear these old raps. Nobody wants to hear you talk about art. that we'll never own. I mean, they did that with 444, though.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Who gives a fuck? But that's what I'm saying. And then a week later, people are not even told me. I don't care. But I think Jay would put an album out if he wanted to. That's what I was getting at. Like, yeah, of course there's no purpose.
Starting point is 01:03:17 It's always if he wants to. He don't need to. Anything Jay's he does in life. He'll get out of like 444 off the self-reflection, therapy, that's what that was about. That was, you know, of course it was marketed because of the two biggest fucking artists ever
Starting point is 01:03:29 that happened to be married and talked about their relationship after lemonade. but that would allow because that was for him too. It was for him. Yeah, I'm saying he would have to find that reason. I don't know what that reason could be because of my Jay-Z. But rap in the market back then was in a way better place than it is now.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Sure. So what I'm saying is we know he doesn't need to do anything. He doesn't need to put no music out. He doesn't have, he doesn't owe anybody anything. He doesn't have any dates to hit. Like when it comes to that, everything has to be whether he's motivated, whether he's inspired, whether he's, you know, he's looking at. where things are and it's like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I like the energy and rap and hip hop right now. I like, you know, just the tone of it was going on. Let me add to that. I don't think he's looking at any of this and is motivated and wants to add what he does to any of this. I think obviously this is in Paris. His song, niggas in Paris. His wife sold out fucking stadium in Paris.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It's a moment. This is like just a family having a day in the backyard. Like, he was just hanging. on the backyard with his wife and his kids. Like, that's what that was. But as far as new music and recording, I don't think Jay is doing any of that. I think he's too entrenched in other shit outside of music.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I mean, if he's motivated and inspired, I hope we get one, but I'm not banking on it. Yeah, no, I don't think. I'm not banking, but I'm begging. I'm praying. And I prayed on Halliburton Downfall, and that happened. You said there's Super Bowl rumors of Jay performing at Super Bowl? Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Well, we talked about that when he first took over. How many years would it not look weird to pick yourself? Oh, yeah, he's performing. Oh, and they're trying to get this. It's Vegas. He's trying to get the Sears Palace. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's performing.
Starting point is 01:05:14 And Beyonce's popping up. Yeah. Man, I need tickets. He's performing. San Francisco? Oh, yeah. No, he's not performing. No, y'all are so fucking funny.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yeah, San Francisco. I think the NFL is going to put pressure. to have a non-urban act for this year. But if it was Vegas, yeah, I'd be like, nah, Jay's heavy into the gambling world now. He'd definitely perform Vegas. Oh, yeah, if it's Vegas, he's definitely. But no, I think we're going to get...
Starting point is 01:05:43 Morgan. Morgan. Pee said Morgan Wilden. Half-time show Morgan Wallin? Morgan and Drake? No, I think it'll be... Well, I mean, Jay got there to make sure there was representation at halftime.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Now there's another side of the country that may need some representation. And they see themselves in Morgan. Listen, man, we could talk about it. Can we? About the Super Bowl. No. I think we may be at that point where Chris could get it.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Brown? Yeah. He couldn't even get the Michael Jackson a fucking tribute. Why wouldn't Chris get it? We already had this conversation. I'm like four times. And listen, I'm which Chris deserves it. I think everybody's passed.
Starting point is 01:06:29 If Cuevo doesn't have anything to do that day. I'm sure Cuevo has something. I met Cuevo before you came. Yeah? Yeah. But I was like, nah, shit, I'm with Chris. You said that? No, I didn't say.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I know you didn't. I know you didn't. I know you said. Chase is just like, I was like, he's no idea of the fuck I. What's up, man? Yeah. One of those. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:49 What we really need to get down to is not the Super Bowl. Can you just take B. Simone to Bloomingdale's? You got Blumentdell's money. I know you do. I've seen your wallet. Was that the store that you? went to go see you on Sunday to support a friend? Yeah, I mean, you opened Bloomingdale.
Starting point is 01:07:05 My whole way open to Blumentdale. You gifted Be Simone in Bloomingdale's. A little small shop. A little small shopy open called Blumentdells. Nothing crazy. I mean, I don't want to laugh at someone crying about not having money because I know what the fuck that it feels like and it sucks, but I'm still confused by this entire thing. I'm not going to go listen to the whole episode. I want to make that very clear.
Starting point is 01:07:25 There's no research here except for the clip that everyone is saw. What is going on? Yeah, so I saw the clip of. B Simone and Shikina talking out. A clip of, I think Shikina went viral the week before when Shikina was saying, you know, people think when you have rich friends that that means that you got money and that you're well off or whatever, whatever. And people were killing that clips like saying, if I had a rich friend and they knew I was
Starting point is 01:07:51 struggling and watched me struggle, like that ain't a friend. And you know, that whole people think that because your friend got, let's say a hundred million, that means you got a hundred million. No, it doesn't go like that. And as a friend, you're not going to keep. you're not going to ask your friend for help if you fucked up. Like, you just don't do that. Now, if your friend got $100 million and they see you struggling,
Starting point is 01:08:09 then yeah, they should absolutely help. If that's your friend, that's what friend's a four. So I saw that clip go viral. Okay, well, how do you feel about that? Because I think that that was, I thought that that was an interesting clip. Because when I originally watched the clip, I didn't know the background that the friend she was talking about was sitting next. Like, I didn't know that she was talking about B Simone.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I just seen her saying, you know, I was on food stamps and my car was about to get repossessed or whatever and like, I ain't have no help and people thought without a rich friend. No, she was, but I didn't know that she was at the time. How do you feel about that? Wait, so B. Simone was the rich friend and she was the struggling friend. Yes. I'm just trying to keep up. And they were doing an episode together where she was talking about scared.
Starting point is 01:08:48 People like, you know, I saw you give a check to somebody else and it's like, damn, like, what about me? And I was sitting there watching this shit like, oh, this is. Now, listen, I have friends from all walks of life. Mm-hmm. Rich, poor, doesn't matter, right? But there's a thing when, because as friends, you don't necessarily want to ask your friends for help, right? If you, in a tough situation, financially, whatever it may be, you need some help. You don't want to ask your friends for help.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Now, should your friends know that you're struggling to know that you're kind of like in need of help? Yeah, you know, so that's what friends for. You had those conversations. But I've been in situations where I needed help from friends that were well off. And I asked a friend one time, small loan. I was like, yo, listen, money tied up right now. I got a lot of bills that I just want to catch up on. Loan me $5,000.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I pay you back next month. All good. He said no. So I can't do it right now. Cool. From that day, that put a fire up under me. I said I will never ask another friend or anybody for help ever again in my life. And I never have, by the grace of God, never had to.
Starting point is 01:10:06 God bless the child that has his own. So maybe I needed to hear that no. Maybe I needed that moment. Like, damn, maybe help ain't coming. Got to do what you got. We all got 24 hours in a day. It's how you use it, how you grind, how you hustle. Cool.
Starting point is 01:10:21 So I can understand the mentality of not wanting to ask a friend for help, especially as men. You know how we are prideful, ego. You don't want another man to know that you're struggling, you fucked up, which is dumb when you think about it, especially if you're my friend. You should know I'm struggling. Because then if I go out here and knock some niggas over and put them on their ass and try to get some money,
Starting point is 01:10:40 you know, why you ain't called me? I did, nigger, and you said you ain't having it like it. So I had to go put this fucking four five in the nigger face and get it. Like, you don't what I had to do. The reason I was out of town the last month. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, so I can understand how people don't want to ask friends
Starting point is 01:10:57 for help because you just don't want to, you know, be put in that position to have to ask anybody for anything. But. Or make the friendship awkward. Yeah, because it's not. So many times it doesn't happen when you ask a friend for money and they say no. And then now the friendship is fucking weird. Now for me personally, yes, our friendship changed. I got to be honest. Our friendship changed after that. But not in a way where I despise the person and we're not cool. It changed in a way of never asking for nothing after that. Never asking for nothing before that, which was crazy. And that's why that shit bothered me, I think, because I never asked nobody for nothing. But in that moment, I was like, this is a small thing to a giant.
Starting point is 01:11:36 This ain't shit. And that no, I remember hanging up that phone. I said, I will never ask nobody for nothing again. That shit, I hurt your soul. And I never, and I, to this day, never asked. Which is why I'm worried, be like, yo, even ticking the shit, I don't ask niggas for nothing. Like, I don't ask, when people call me, yo, hit so and so, like, I don't like asking nobody for nothing. I just, is it something in me?
Starting point is 01:11:58 And not as a result of that before that, I didn't like asking people for shit. I just, that's just how I am. I don't ask them like, because I'm always on the side of you got, if I'm calling you asking for something, you got 30 niggas ahead of me because I'm the last nigger to ask anybody for anything. So that's just my mindset. But as friends, you do need help sometimes. So I understood that clip with Shikina and B talking. People killed them about that clip.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Cool. So now B and Shikina. Again, another clip goes viral with B is saying, you know, she's so broke now that she has to shop at H&M instead of Bloomingdale. Well, and she's saying she's not broke from lack of money. Was she saying that she has lack of liquid? She has her money tied up in assets and investments. Cool, which is, you know, we understand that. So now your lifestyle has to change.
Starting point is 01:12:46 You can't spend as much as you were at one point because you're not getting as much money in as you were at one point. Your money is tied up. So now you have to kind of budget and, you know, but you should always be doing anyway, but you have to budget and spend your money wisely and be more financially responsible. So I understand that. My only thing would be saying that is
Starting point is 01:13:06 rich people shop at H&M. People that are financially great. She didn't land her point is pretty much. Yeah, like people that are financially great and well off. Bad version of struggling. Yeah, so it's like, yo, you can be great financially and shop at H&M.
Starting point is 01:13:24 But I understood what she was saying. I mean, I had to change my lifestyle. I had to change the way I was spending money. I had the budget. I had the money that I was spending so freely before. I cannot do that anymore, which is what she was trying to say. But like Rory said, she didn't land it, didn't word it properly. But I understood what she was saying.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Like, yo, I can't spend blindly the way I used to at one point. Like, I have to be more, you know, mindful of the way I'm spending money. So I understood what she was saying. But it doesn't matter on the internet. You said what you said. They're going to kill you for exactly what you said, not what you meant. You're going to kill you for what you said. So I understand what be meant by that.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And shout out to Hunter Shikina on going viral once again. How much money do you think she asked me for? How much money do I think she asked? Yeah. She didn't ask. I was going to say, I don't know if she asked her. Oh, okay. Yeah, she didn't.
Starting point is 01:14:13 She was initially saying. I'm on the mind of, I couldn't, I would, me personally, I don't know their relationship. If my best friend was staring me in my face, Senator, they were talking to me about, I watched you give a check to somebody else, but I ain't have no food in my fridge. have this, I didn't have that. I would feel like a piece of shit. Oh, now, wait, hold on. If I'm starving and can't even feed myself.
Starting point is 01:14:34 She said she had to get on food stamps. Yeah. Yeah, then at that point, if you have a friend that's well off, like, now again, again, because I've seen this too, baby D, people be struggling, fuck them, and you don't have no idea. Some people's front game is immaculate. I got personal friends that I'm like, yo, bro, I, why you ain't just, say something. We could have went to whole foods
Starting point is 01:14:58 and fill this whole shit up. Like, you know what I'm saying? But again, people had this pride and this ego. Yeah. They front game be strong. They don't want people to see them struggling. It's a real thing. And I understand it because I've done it. Now, I ain't ever open my fridge and I just seen baking soda in that motherfucker. Like, nigger going to eat.
Starting point is 01:15:14 But I've done that. It's like, listen, and you don't want nobody to know. You don't want nobody to know. I mean, it's whack, though, because The bacon soda is funny. I'm so sorry. That's just so accurate. Yeah, but it's real. Some people open their fridge, baking soda, celery. You're not even doing nothing with celery. You better dip that bitch just some peanut butter. Y'all ain't
Starting point is 01:15:33 see. Y'all ain't been real poor for the wind. That juice stretched out for two days. Why you got celery in the drawer? You're trying to keep the celery fresh too. Throw that shit out. On the right climate shit. You're not eating celery. I know this thing. I mean, not some pineapple, some peanut butter or some ranch that bitch. And it gets you through a night. And that's all we're trying to do is get through the night. Get through the fucking night, yo. Get through the night. That's the motto of
Starting point is 01:15:56 I don't want to be around them type niggas no more. Niggas that's just trying to make it to tomorrow. They focus and energy is different. It's going to be your B-Simon clip. No, no, I'm just not saying I don't love it, but I can't be. It's just because they're willing to do anything. For sure. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:14 It's like, and you don't want to be around when they get that moment of fuck it. Like this is the moment. Like, y'all got to do it now. You don't want to be around when the person that is on their last feels like, yo, it's now or never. Yeah. Because you might be the now. I was going to say, once you turn them down for money,
Starting point is 01:16:30 they also know your patterns because they're your friend. You start looking like a plate. You're looking like a plate. You looking good. Skin looking good. Nigel, you gaining weight. I just saw your IG. You was just in Turks.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Niggas throwing shrimp at you. All kind of shit going on. I'm in here celery. Nah, I'm going to get this. You real shit, though. That's how, what you mean? Yes. I'm talking real shit.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Even if they don't go with. far as robbing you, I've seen friends see your, your friends see your blessings up close. So I've seen shit turn weird. Myfuckus turn weird. Man, I don't see you're saying niggas in a nigger house to rob day man. I haven't seen it all. So that's why when everybody gets the time, I didn't see it. This is like you got to understand patterns.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Some people be out here really twisted and you out here looking like you're just doing good. Listen, it's not the time to be around people that's messed up if you're not trying to help. If you're not trying to, you know, uplift and then help them get out of their situation, sooner or later, listen, they're going, it's survival. You don't want to be around people that's in survival mode all the time. And unfortunately, that's the environment. That's the neighborhood that a lot of us grow up in. We all grow up trying to survive.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Like Baby D said, make it through the night. That's it. But shout out to be Simone and Shaquine again. They went viral. So, hey, listen. Watch the podcast. Hopefully she gave her friends. I'm going to say give her some of her friends.
Starting point is 01:17:55 some of the asses. Listen, man, watch, go watch the pod. You know what I'm saying? Be Simone Simone back in Blooms. You know what I'm saying? Fucking run it up. Why not? Those are my people. Shout out to be Simone's Shikina. Yeah. And I'm happy that Be Simone's struggle is going from Bloomingdale's to H&M. Yeah, B, cut it out. Yeah, B, cut the shit. I hear you. I've had cutbacks of a lifestyle, certain times, certain months. I can't do that now. But I just keep it myself. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's a podcast. She's sharing, you know, her life. But you I don't have to be aware of how it comes across. But people, even if she said that, people are going to find something to kill you about.
Starting point is 01:18:31 That's just the nature of the beast. Like you say something, you know, you can be as honest and vulnerable and, you know, as sincere. And people are going to get the clip and you know how it goes, Rory. Absolutely. You know, you think you better than anybody, like, shut up. And it's just like, I'm just giving you my real account of what happens in my life. That's what I'm doing. Don't ask for my honesty then.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like, all right, so next time I won't be vulnerable. Yeah, right. Listen, there that goes. Vulnerability out the window, Roy. This is an ad by Better Help. June is Men's Mental Health Month, and my guy, it's time to talk. Men today face immense pressure to perform, to provide, to keep everything together.
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Starting point is 01:20:10 my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations
Starting point is 01:20:25 with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clivert Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Listen to The Clivert Show on the IHeart Radio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking.
Starting point is 01:21:13 What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:21:31 To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years. for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel like it was a little bit unbelievable until I really start making money. It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre,
Starting point is 01:22:23 as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. If I'm outside with my parents and they see all these people come up to me for pictures, it's like, what? Today now, obviously, it's like 100%. They believe everything. But at first it was just like, you got to go get a real job. There's an economic component to community striving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.
Starting point is 01:22:47 And what I mean by fell is they don't have money to pay for food. They cannot feed their kids. They do not have homes. Communities don't work unless there's money. flowing through them. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
Starting point is 01:23:01 get your podcast. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of the away end, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love.
Starting point is 01:23:23 On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auer Kohn and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:24:09 H&M got some great shit. I always love H&M. Get a good, get good suits in H&M, man. Yeah, I get most of Amar's clothes from the Old Navy. Mm-hmm. Have y'all been in Old Navy lately? I've been to get some shit. I'd be walking past the men's section on my way to the baby shit.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I'm like, no, I've got some drinks. in here. Oh, Navy's kind of fire now. You listen, I always talk about how hard it is just to find some good
Starting point is 01:24:30 plain jeans, not the jeans that look like you're about to go on stage. Good plain jeans. The Gap still has some of the best good plain jeans.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Just jeans. Like, I just want some nice jeans that sit right on my sneaker, wearing them with a t-shirt, don't look like I got four platinum records. I don't want those type.
Starting point is 01:24:49 I don't want platinum record jeans. I don't need rips on my thighs. I don't want those jeans. I don't want those jeans. I want regular jeans. The gap is still one of the best in the business when it comes to regular gene. You can always get classic dental from leave.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Oh yeah, Levi. Levi, I feel like they were doing the price gouging before anybody. Levi, when I was a kid, I felt like it was affordable. And then when I got older, they tripled their price. Yeah, they were inflation before inflation. Levi used to be cool. That shit, you might as well go to fucking the diesel store at that point. Diesel still got good denim.
Starting point is 01:25:23 still got good denim. There's a lot of stores that have, again, we just, there's a market of people that just want regular jeans. We don't want to look like we coming out with smoke and pyro. I don't want pyro jeans. Regular denim, please. Thank you very much. Don't distress my denim.
Starting point is 01:25:45 I just want, no, you can get a little distress, but don't go distress crazy. Yeah, I'm stressed. So my jeans are match. My thighs will distress it. Like, some of these jeans, it's like, I'm not wearing. And then the wide flared bottom, I'm not wearing those. Listen, man, post, I don't think I've worn denim's post-COVID. I just gave up on denim after.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Once I didn't put jeans on for a year because of COVID, I was like, I'm never going to be. Yeah. But you're not going to, but again, too, because not the fact that jeans just aren't, they don't make them as comfortable as they once were. But you just not, the denim market space is just not attractive to you anymore. You'd rather wear comfortable pants, trousers. He loved breaker. That nigga love a breaker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Like, Jones, like, they're like, incredible. Throw these on and just like, yo, I'm like, all right, man. Denims, it's like, you walk outside with some of these jeans. You're supposed to have a whole backline behind you, drums and guitars. Like, I'm just going to the store. I'm not performing anywhere. I just want regular jeans. The way that Dadweight fluctuates, we call it.
Starting point is 01:26:53 like I don't even know if I'd be comfortable buying denim because I would probably have to jump in it the following week. And then the week after that, it'd be too loose. And Beyonce. Oh, listen, I was a medium large in a T-shirt for most of my life. I'd be asking for X-Ls now because I don't know what my body going to look like on Tuesday. Yeah. Like, just give me some folly shit.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Yeah. Like, just, I want to be able to move. Chicken nuggets all night and fries. Like, yeah. Got no sleep. Yeah. I ate Amara's leftover chicken nuggets that she didn't eat. and I slept two hours.
Starting point is 01:27:24 So, you know, before we do get to voicemails, prayers to T-Rex. He had a seizure on stage at his battle last night. Yes, prayers to Rex, man. Yeah, that was a, I get why people post that stuff, but I also kind of wish they wouldn't. Like, I watched that by accident. Oh, they had the video? Yeah. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I hate shit like that. I can't watch that. And you ever, like, look at a video and don't really read the caption? Mm-hmm. So I'm just thinking it's a bad word. It was tough to watch, to say the least. Well, hopefully Rex is recovering well. He's doing better.
Starting point is 01:27:58 That's my guy. That's fan right there. So shout out to Rex. Have you heard any updates? Pete and I were talking earlier. No, I think he tweeted last night, though. I think he tweeted something last night. So, you know, I don't know if that's a good sign.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Somebody tweeting or not. But hopefully he is recovering and he is feeling better. And, you know, listen, man, we got a health. Got it got to, you know, the older we get, It's just priority number one. Make sure your health is right. Physically, mentally, spiritually. It's important.
Starting point is 01:28:28 So shout out to Rex. Yeah. Prays to him. And speedy recovery, full recovery to Rex. Yeah. This is more local. But if you are in New York City, mayor primaries are today,
Starting point is 01:28:39 if you're listening to this on Tuesday, go out and vote. It's fucking, the world is insane. Anybody but Cuomo and Adams again. Please. vote Bianca Cunningham for city council if you are in the Brownsville area thank you so Brownsville Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Bianca Cunningham what she's going to do? She's going to clean up them parks. Parks need cleaning. Bianca. Farks need cleaning. Get them niggas out of there. Niggas want to do pushups and dips on that every light. Get them niggas out the way.
Starting point is 01:29:11 She's going to be the mother of mother gas. This is not the please. I'm sorry. Shout out to Bianca Cunningham. Oh my lord. I know that's the marriage's people, but like I got to see. see some policies before we start shouting out. First of all, I gave the rant.
Starting point is 01:29:24 She could be crazy. I gave y'all the rundown of the policies already. So I had already done that. But if you need them doing them again, she's a former Verizon Wireless worker who led her coworkers in seven stores across Brooklyn, a former union together, enjoying the CWA, making them the first unionized retail workers on the company. She's really big on union workers, really big on education,
Starting point is 01:29:45 like fixing the education system in New York. She has a whole bunch of policies. It's very easy to look. but Bianca for Brooklyn.com. Bianca for Brooklyn. Yes. All right. So fuck it.
Starting point is 01:29:55 We vote for Bianca Cunningham then. It's all good. We're behind her. But yeah. Anytime they try to fix the schools in New York City, they just say, give them another charter school. Yeah. That's it. And then build it right in between the dope house and the fucking, the Methodon clinic.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Look, they're not in public school anymore. Like, now they are, though. They are. And I know this block real well right here. It's not private. Harlem love loves them a charter school. Oh, my God. You telling me.
Starting point is 01:30:20 But every time I go, I'm like, what is this? Now, it's a charter school. This is Lexington Avenue. This is the hood, man. Get this shit out of here. Charter school. Well, yeah, everyone vote. And I mean, I know there's also primaries with other states.
Starting point is 01:30:35 So get out there and I don't know, make, hopefully make your vote count. I don't want to be sinister. I'm encouraging people to vote. But I hope it works out. Yeah, man, listen, go vote and go pray right after you vote, man. Prayers to the world? Prayers to the world. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:50 We need that. I didn't know how to be specific on that. Like just, I don't know. All of us? Yeah, just the world. Just everybody. Prayers to the world. Prayers to the world.
Starting point is 01:30:58 We are the world, is what I always say. We are the children. We are the ones to make a variety day. We're laughing. Ever since that song, we've been fucking everything up. Oh, man. You got to laugh to keep from crying. You really got a laugh to keep from crying.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Why are you crying, baby, Dee? Because of the state of the world. Listen, don't cry, though. No, I almost cried before you showed up. I found out that Iran was sending missiles to U.S. bases via Shade Room. And I was like, this, what am I? Like, I just, I don't even know what to do anymore. I have no words for it.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I know I'm a podcaster supposed to have words. I just, like, don't even know what to say anymore. Why? Like, at first I was like, oh, fuck. I mean, of course, the retaliation was going to happen, like, not stupid. They were going to hit back. But then I was like, why did I find this out on Instagram on Shadrom? Yeah, Justin LaBoy shouldn't be updated on Iran-I-Ran-Israeli conflict.
Starting point is 01:32:00 I just shouldn't be getting there from Justin is all I'm saying. Well, yeah, Prish-R-I don't know. Is CNN Fox said he better? Right. Exactly. Like, Hollywood and Latt might be the best way. Isn't Jason Lee? Isn't he a counselor or something like that?
Starting point is 01:32:16 He was running in his hometown. I think he won. I don't keep up with like Northern California politics. like that, but I think Jason Lee. No, I remember when he was campaigning, we talked about it.
Starting point is 01:32:26 I think it was great what he was doing. I think he won, actually. I think he got voted anything. He was taking that shit serious. But I mean, shout out to Jason Lee either way. I know he really cares about that community. But, you know, I don't know. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Is Curtis Sleewell on the bill this time? You're going to invite for Curtis? You're going to vote for Curtis? I'm coming in here with the hat on. Get you a good red beret. What is it? What is it? What is it?
Starting point is 01:32:50 It's a red beret? I read Tam. It's a beret? It was a beret, yes. It was a beret. Did we ever, did we find that out, Josh? If it was a beret? No.
Starting point is 01:33:00 If he won. Jason Lee? Jason Lee? I think he won't. I mean, I think we congratulated him on his win. If I'm not, I could be wrong. But I think he did. I think he won.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Okay. Well, congrats to Jason Lane. I'm sure. He probably didn't. Oh, no, here we go. Yahoo News, not shade of room, November 6. 24 Jason Lee elected to Stockton City Council. Yeah. See? I remember congratulating Jason Lee on that.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yeah, shout out to Jason Lee, man. Do you keep up with any of like the mob mafia YouTube world? Like, do you know who John A-Light is? John A-Light. The name sounds familiar. Yeah, so he worked with like John Gotti Jr. He ended up flipping and testifying against him and now he's like a big YouTuber or whatever. I mean, he's admitted to killing like 35 people. He's now the councilman in a town in New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Oh. John A. Light, former Gambino crime family enforcer turned mob turncoat, was sworn in Wednesday as a councilman representing the sleepy town in the New Jersey borough of English town. He turned his life around. Ain't that what rehabilitation for? That's what jail was supposed to be? Yeah, baby. I don't think he can go from like being a part of the house?
Starting point is 01:34:22 population of Englishtown, New Jersey. I'm sure there was somebody that he killed, that he clipped. That's someone that could have taken that role as city councilman. I'm not saying there should be, you know, redemption and this or that, but like, do, imagine. 2,500 people live in Englishtown. Listen, if our president's a felon, so whatever. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Obama committed so many war crimes. John A.L.H. just on par for a politician. Listen, if John A. like can get voted in this city councilman.
Starting point is 01:34:59 I'm just saying Chris might be on that Super Bowl stage. Yo. That's all. I'm just saying, man, I think people get over
Starting point is 01:35:06 and move past things and people forgive. It's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Oh, no, I think Puff going to be in the next election cycle.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Oh, my gosh. That would be crazy. Yeah, yeah, at this point, would it be? But when y'all told me Cuomo was running for May,
Starting point is 01:35:21 I'm like, He stepped down because of sexual assault allegations. Like, that he's back to run for mayor? Listen, man. All I'm saying is Chris Brown might be in San Francisco and Santa Clara come February is all I'm saying. And Rihanna might be a special guest. Yeah, and Rihanna might be a special guest. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:35:42 The assimilation, I don't know. I feel like God running out of shit to do for real. I'm like, for my next trick. I just saw Charleston White fight one of the island boys. This is not real. Yeah, no. I've been told you that's a system. None of this shit is real.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Do we have any voicemails for our simulation? You've got mail. One voicemail. Sponsored by Boost. Thank you, Josh. What's up, Rory, Mom, Baby D, Hage, Whole Fam. Quick question, outside of relationships.
Starting point is 01:36:17 If y'all was making a playlist for kids, as far as showing them actual real hip hop, obviously edited. What songs would y'all pick? What artists? I got a homegirl. She wants me to add some songs to a playlist for her sons. I got a couple. I got J.V., Hard Knock Live.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Nause, I can. Tribe, can I kick it. But what else would y'all add to a playlist for real hip-hop? for kids, edited. Love the feedback. Appreciate y'all. Peace. If another man sent Amara
Starting point is 01:37:00 playlist, I'm going full, Johnny, like, everybody's done. What am I trying to teach them about hip-hop? I think that's actually pretty cool. Like, imagine if Maul compiled
Starting point is 01:37:10 like a list of like must-hear hip-song songs for a-mar. Yeah, but Ma's in dating her mother. Oh, that's what you're saying. Fucking kill a guy. Send my daughter. I know hip-hop. I got it.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Don't send my daughter a fucking playlist. I think that you got to put Will Smith on there. Summertime you got to put that for kids. I would do children's story. Slick Rick? Yeah. I feel like kids would like that. I loved it when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:37:37 When he said that, that was the first song I thought about. It's a really dark story, but yeah. Yeah. I guess that's what Slickwickwick was going for. I mean, Juicy to me is like the number one. Like if aliens came and were like, what's hip-hop? Juicy would be the song I would play. But I don't, I mean, most of it is, like, I'd love to throw shook ones on there,
Starting point is 01:37:58 but I just don't know if they should hear about, you know, the nose bone going. Maybe that could be an anatomy lesson of stabbing your brain with your nose bone. Not for the kids, not for the playlist. But definitely Will Smith. Maybe even, because I'm thinking about also language, Rakim didn't curse a lot. No. Because that wasn't even really like a thing back then with rap. Like, it wasn't heavy cursing.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Yeah. So, like, throw some rock. him on there. Some cane, Big Daddy cane. But do you think like... U and I T.Y. By Missy Elliott?
Starting point is 01:38:31 Missy Elliott. Missy Elliott. Oh my God. Queen Latifah. I don't know why I was thinking about Missy. I was like, Queen Latifah. Yeah, I thought she was putting me on. Yeah, I didn't even know she...
Starting point is 01:38:40 Missy, Greek, created. Sample that too. I don't know. I must have just read her name or something somewhere, but Queen Latifah. Yeah. You and ITY, Queen Latifah. Do we think like even with the young ears that they would care about that?
Starting point is 01:38:50 Reminis. People. Seals smooth? Yeah. minutes. They would love the one of the greatest hip hop beats ever.
Starting point is 01:38:57 What's funny is that old school hip hop is more for kids than anything else? Yeah, because the content and the language wasn't as vulgar as it is now.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Yeah. Okay, but what from the next generation would you play? Because that would be tough. Well, he said, you said Jay Z.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Hartnacht Live, right? He said that? Yeah. But even like the contents of that outside of the hook is,
Starting point is 01:39:21 like for adults I feel like Nelly might have something that you can throw on there Nellie for sure what's the Tim McGraw song over and over again yeah over and over again she's all in my head
Starting point is 01:39:36 and I'm going to be over and over again Bonified hit That was my shit right kid That was a fucking white here That was a classic record That was my shit Tim McGraw came out That was all in my head
Starting point is 01:39:51 Go ahead. After Nelly did ride with me, that little country shit on country grammar, we're like, there's no way he can do it again. Ride with me. That's good for the kids. I don't even want to ride with me. Okay. That wasn't too vulgar.
Starting point is 01:40:03 That wasn't crazy. I believe the hook is about fucking. The edited version of Move, Bitch, get out the way. I think that's the edited version is Move Trick. And I actually don't think that that song is that bad without the chorus, if I'm not mistaken. I want to do like a doc about where are they now? with all the kids Bob kids like where did they end up? Hmm.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Podcasts. Yeah. Dancing with the stars, but like as the dancers. As the dancers. I believe it. See. Who was the kid that did like the horrible renditions of like Biggie when they were just steal?
Starting point is 01:40:43 Where's that kid at now? Because I know he has trauma for sure. Maddie B. Maddie B. Yes. Oh man. Those were cringeworthy. he was probably crushing it at middle school though how many views this is uh
Starting point is 01:40:56 billions i'm sure you could feel the struggle like just within the imagery no this can't be the original he said oh okay okay oh I thought he said the studio a ball you thought that's what he said baby
Starting point is 01:41:27 yeah All right. He had his blue, he has a little black lumberjack on. You think he'll flag us? You think Maddie B will demonetize us? That's wild. Those were still,
Starting point is 01:41:44 kids bob days, those were interesting. You need a good kids' bob playlist, though. Like where are the cars, cars for kids? What was that, that song? 1-8-77 cars.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Where's that band at now? K-I-D-S cars for kids. You sound like me spelling. Oh, was the K-A-R-S? Cars for kids. Yeah. Release your cars today. Wait, Maddie Braps without a book?
Starting point is 01:42:16 Maddie Braps. That's M-B-R-R-S. That's M-B-R-B-R-T. Mattie Braps. He turned blood. That's crazy. Is that a book? Is that a single?
Starting point is 01:42:28 I think that's a single release, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, yeah. I forgot where we're at. Yeah, nah, as I can, you know. Yeah, you got to put that on there. I think he's going in the right direction with everything. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Maybe mix it up and put like Eamon. Fuck it. Just like really throw a curveball in there. Really traumatize the children. All right. Well, we're going to catch bounce. Let's bounce on out of here. Feeling real litter box right now?
Starting point is 01:42:56 Yeah, man. Listen, man, New York City smells like a litter box right now. That's so hot and nasty outside. Yeah. But fuck it, we're going to push through, man. Push through these next couple days. It is heat wave. Stay cool as best you can.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Stay in the house. The AC on it. Everybody just sit down. Just relax for a second. Yeah. Let these couple days go by. You'll be fucking stink. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Ass is stinking. Listen, we had a three shower minimum. Now these next few days, if you're moving around, three showers a day, man. Don't go up in nobody face stinking. It's too hot for that. We talk to you on a couple days. Be safe. Be blessed.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Be cool. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes,
Starting point is 01:43:53 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clivert Show on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. On The Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me.
Starting point is 01:44:12 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year.
Starting point is 01:44:29 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green. Co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Listen to the Away End with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramers sending on to Ernie Stewart the chip. I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, inside American soccer, you'll get the real storylines, the biggest decisions, and the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or,
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