New Rory & MAL - Episode 384 | I Know What You Did Last Summer

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Fresh from Jeezy's black tie affair, Rory & Mal somehow turn a 50 Cent vs Jeezy debate into an investigation on why women teachers are having sex with their students (5:11). Cardi B called us out ...on her Twitter Space, but low key proved Rory & Mal's point about her EP being rushed (32:53). T-Pain threw some shade at Drake, and Chris Brown shortly followed with a shoutout. Is he being petty? (48:07) Plus, Nas promoting a new casino in Queens ain't that serious (1:16:30), and we think the caller for our voicemail segment is cappin' (1:36:13) #volume *Timestamps may vary due to advertisementsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 It is still a thousand degrees in New York, but it cooled down a bit. I guess. It's not as bad as it was. But I've been overheating for about a week and a half now. Well, I mean, you know, when it's, it gets hot, you got to run for shade, run for cover. Tree to Tree? Yeah. Yeah. Right on the sidewalk. I have to always go on the shady side of it. And it's crazy. You got to go treat the tree, but they call black people monkeys, right? It's crazy. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It's crazy how that works. Like, life would just... Out the gate on a Monday. I'm just saying it's crazy how life would just, you know what I mean? Show that to you sometimes. I'm saying, yeah. Yeah, no, life is showing them things about the whites. Yeah, yeah. That's all. That's all. Just noticing the things. Do you think white people are aliens?
Starting point is 00:03:39 No. All right. Wait. In what sense? Do I think white people are from this planet? Yeah. Because I do. I could, I could, I could see if somebody gave me a story about however many thousands of years ago,
Starting point is 00:03:56 I could, I would listen to a story of, you know, outer beings coming to this planet and leaving behind something that, you know, made it with something and then they just left. They forgot somebody to make it back to the shipping time. There's a million different theories of like mating with Neanderthals and that entire thing, white people. But across the gate, no matter what your theory is, we are the only race that like can't really survive here. Like we have no melanin for something that is what we need on this earth, which is the sun of the sun, the way we'd all die. We can't even handle it.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah. Like this isn't our planet. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I can't handle the sun either. Take away any human advances, sunscreen, all of that shit. Like, we can't survive. That's why we hid in the Caucasus Mountains. We're not, like, built for this.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Every animal, every other race. Like, you know, it's just... The sun is out. Yeah. Enjoying it. They adapted to what the planet's, you know, atmosphere is. We just out here just fucking old pasty and going from tree to tree. That's an alien.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah. It's not somebody of this planet. That's alien behavior. That's somebody that doesn't want to be seen and doesn't want the elements to affect them. You're right. And sorry I read it. I'm sure it's just white. guilt. That's what Reddit is going to say. We know you hate being white, Rory. No, I thoroughly
Starting point is 00:05:11 enjoy it. Oh, no, he enjoys it. Let me tell you. He hates it on camera. But when these cameras shut off, he goes outside. This is a white man in Manhattan is the only compromise I have to make. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is a white man walking through Manhattan with his tote bag. He's white. For sure. With his tote bag. With a little pep in my step too. Absolutely. Absolutely. Got to love it. I was outside this weekend in the heat in a black tuxedo with both. Bowie just walking around Harlem. Not usually the guy in a bow tie they see on two-fifth, but I was out there. Oh, welcome to the NOI.
Starting point is 00:05:44 With members of the NOI. The very Muslim weekend, to say the least. I've never been back and forth to Brooklyn that many times in my entire life. Yo, man. But we'll get to that. So Saturday I went to the Young GZ ETM 101 20-year anniversary orchestra show. Black Tie event. Shout to a drama in Lake for inviting.
Starting point is 00:06:05 me had a great time that event like if it's going to your city can we pull up the dates Miami was the first one New York was Saturday I wasn't even it was at the Apollo okay yeah it was I mean I don't know is it a hard sell it's GZ doing all the songs from TM 101 with the orchestra I don't feel like I don't need to like sell you on that no that's not a hard sell that's definitely not a hard sell but I mean I was talking with um with some people backstage stage at it, like, of course, traditional music doesn't need to, like, validate hip hop.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Hip hop is far past needing validation. It's the most popular fucking genre. But it was nice to see and to prove that, like, this shit is real music. Yeah. Just because it was made on an electric fucking MPC or keyboard does not make it any different
Starting point is 00:07:00 than the shit you snobs think it is. Like, hearing Canon's bongos where they shouldn't have been and go crazy was incredible life. Like, it was just so nice to see, like, this is real music. Anyone that tries to say hip hop is not real music or samples, this and that, go watch that show. And tell me that shit shouldn't be in cardio, anywhere.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Like, it was just beautiful to watch. And just, like, knowing GZ and his story, because they played into that with a lot of visuals. Like, people would be forgetting with this rebrand Gizi. Like, who the fuck young Gizi was. Yeah. Like, it's dope to see his growth though. Like, you know, as obviously he's an older, older guy now.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And, you know, you would hope that, you know, you mature and as years past. But it's always good to see, you know, that content, his lyrics. But then putting that type of, you know, the orchestra underneath it and, you know, making the words even more, you know, connect even more with strings. It's something, it's something about a harp. Oh, for sure. A harp, a harp over telling me how much you pay for the grams. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's something about it That just makes it so poetic And you know Not to not to big league you guys It's just part of the story I went through the backstage entrance And like went past the band Like rehearsing
Starting point is 00:08:14 And I was like Yo young Gizi got a clarinet In the Apollo right now Why he has a whole Hip hop Yeah Why do you have six fucking clarinets? Yeah
Starting point is 00:08:23 There was some of the bathroom polishing their flute I was like this is amazing Music, it's music man It's words It's lyrics It's you know Obviously hip hop
Starting point is 00:08:33 We express ourselves a little differently in hip hop. But, you know, it's good to see guys get older and, you know, throwing a suit, get more mature, but keep the content the same, though. Who else would you like to see in that, like, we do that form of concert? I mean, two have already done it, Nause and Hove, which was great. When Chief Keith did it, it was great, too. But- Noss is doing it, I think, this.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Does he have a Vegas residency around that or something? I'm not sure, but he's doing it this week at the Jazz Festival, in Montreal. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm trying to think from like the newer generation that would be cool to see. From a new generation? I feel like future, future would be fire for something like that. I could see that. Yeah. And I was thinking when I was watching the cheesy shit, I have to walk back some of my takes from last week. When I said I've gotten to the point that I don't really like care who's lying in a rap. No, the shit hit different when you know is not.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Everything Jeezie said, like, is a fact. Yeah, oh man. You know it, yeah. When it's real, yeah. It's going to hit every time when it's real. When it's real talk, it's going to hit every time. Because I was even thinking, like, when you bring up Hove as far as like, this isn't supposed to happen.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Like, this dirty kid from R.C. No, this is fake. Like, that's not supposed to happen. That's what I was looking, the whole Jeezie show. I was like, yo, this guy's backstory is absolutely insane. Yeah. Going through every photo he had up there was like, though, he's supposed to be in jail.
Starting point is 00:10:03 This guy is not supposed to be. Like, this isn't normal for what he would do. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I love to see that though, man. It's just growth and, you know, just, you know, maturing and still keeping it music, keeping it hip hop. But let's dress it up. Let's put on black ties, black suits.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Let's get some clarinets on stage. And let's make it poetic, man. And it was, you know, cheesy, obviously being from the South. You could have swore he was a New York rapper at the Apollo. Like the way that would have been like if Kiss came out. Like it was every single fucking word everybody knew. But then I started to think too, shit, T.M.1.1 came out in 05. I was a sophomore in high school.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Like even up here, the South took over at that time. In high school, we grew up on Southern music more than we fucking did New York at that point. Like I saw everyone my age like, oh yeah, this is the way your generation looks at 90 shit. Yeah. That's jeezy to us. So it was just great to see, man. That's dope, man. Shout out to Gizi, man.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Congrats on the Black Tie Orchestra performance at the legendary Apollo theater. That's always dope to have something like that at the Apollo. Shout out to Jeezy and the team. Drama was out there with a bedazzled tuxedo, had some rindstones on there. He looked expensive.
Starting point is 00:11:18 That's all I'm saying. He looked expensive. Drum. You know you, my guy. I love you, man. Don't put no rindstones on the tuxedo, man. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Why? It looked expensive. We can just keep a clean suit. It don't got to be rhinestones. We don't got to rindstone the suit. So just keep it clean. Clean, you know, clean suit. Very classy.
Starting point is 00:11:41 GZ got Lake out there and tapered pants? That's, seeing Lake is some tapered pants. And for those that don't know. Lake is drama's manager and he is from the West Coast. Yeah. And does not let us fucking forget it. No, love Lake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And like I said I wouldn't tell anyone, I lied. He was wearing some uptowns. Like watching somebody from Cali put those on. I respect that. He was like, yeah, we talked to drama. And they were like, yeah, we wanted to get chucks. But, you know, drama said. Yeah, they didn't haul them.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Those some uptowns on when you were in Harlem, man. It's all good. So, uh. Roy looked nice. Well, thank you. He looked very nice. The whole band had obviously black tie, but they were all wearing Air Force ones too. Fire. That's dope.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It was great. And I mean, half the crap, not even half. Mostly the people that were involved or backstage followed the dress go. Most people. Harlem came out there in shorts with a nutcracker in there. Listen, man, it's 90 degrees outside. You want me to put on a fucking suit? To go down the block from where I live, I'm not wearing. No, man. Let me in this shit, man. Before y'all can't go out.
Starting point is 00:12:51 A crack had peed on me before I went inside, but y'all want me to have a full suit on. I mean, I'm two blocks from here. This niggas are shooting dope right around the corner. You weren't put on a suit. No, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Maul, you would have put on a suit, though. I asked when I saw Rory, you know, leaving because I met up with him after, I asked.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I'm like, Maugh didn't go? I was surprised. I thought that would be something you would enjoy. Yeah, I would have went, but I chose not to. But I definitely would want to see Jezy in that setting. Because that album is, I mean, TM 101 is, that's like a staple in hip-out. That's a bonafide classic. So to see it now, years later, GZ performing it now at the Apollo.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I would have to see it. But, you know, once they said black tie, I'm just like... Was it a lot. I'm going to have to miss GZi on this ride, man. I'm not doing all of that. I actually got ready here for it. And I put everything on and then walked outside. I walked right back up to the office and grab one of the T-shirts.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And I was like, I'm going to get changed on. Yeah, yeah. I'm not even sitting in my car with AC with the shit on right now. Yeah. Yeah, it was just too hot for the black. tie fhead man it's too hot it's too hot not in the summer lake lake brought up an interesting point that i wanted to ask you guys is tm 101 the equivalent of the south skit richard i trine i thought it was a really interesting point that the more i thought about it i was like that's
Starting point is 00:14:11 fucking kind of spot on and then just going through the track list i'm like yeah this is this is the south get richard dot trying oh i don't disagree year apart both bona fide classics i don't think anyone needs to order. No, both classic. Team 101 and Get Rich are absolute classics. Both classics, but. You'll find a city at that time. Like, if you go,
Starting point is 00:14:31 TM 101, there's not a fucking skip. Like, it even hurt my heart to say to Lake because I wanted to defend Get Rich more. I was like, damn, I'm, sometimes I skip. Poor Little Rich. Like, there's not a single fucking skip on TN 101. TM 101 is a classic. One of my favorite albums for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:49 But to say it's the South's Get Rich a dot trying, that hit like a fucking, when that dropped, that was like, you know. Now, T1 101, when it dropped, everybody loved it. It was like, oh, this is hard. You know what I'm saying? And then we lived with it. And we was like, damn, this is fire. But I mean, what Get Rich a dot trying did was.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I mean, sales obviously are a little bit different. And Get Rich went to like globally. Yeah. And I'm not saying 1011 didn't go globally, but not probably to the degree that. Not to the degree of Get Rich, no. I think in the States, if you're thinking 04 for Get Rich, right, that was O'4, I think, 03, 05, I mean, GZ completely owned that entire year. Even with G&D it's still putting out Big for Mercer. For sure.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I thought it was a cool equivalent. Big album. But that's, whew, I would have to sit, I would have to really like, because I'm trying to think back of what it felt like when Get Richard Die Die Try and Drop versus TM 101. And what get Richard Dodd trying did was, we hadn't seen something like that. They did not ban the GUNA wife beaters in high schools. They banned the snowman. You couldn't wear that t-shirt in any high school in the country.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Did not. Like that, how many things are all high schools on the same page about? I was in middle school and it was banned too. Yeah, but they didn't ban the GUNA. They put out a country-wide email to every fucking school that you can't have. They don't even do that with math. Yeah, but they did. man the genu in the tank tops because who the fuck is wearing a tank top to school?
Starting point is 00:16:26 True. I was just trying to think of an awful. Yeah. You got to wear a shirt over that. You get banned from the school just wearing a tank top to school. Yeah. As you fucking chill. Get out.
Starting point is 00:16:34 You get banned if you wear a jersey with no t-shirt underneath it. If you didn't have a white tea under your basketball jersey, it's like, you're about to really play ball? Oh yeah. No, facts. You're about to really play ball. What fuck you win a jersey with no t-shirt on underneath it? Like, what you're doing? That's nasty.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We're in the lunchroom. I don't want to see your armpits in the lunchroom. You got to wear a white tea under your jersey at all time. that when they used to be like, yeah, you can't show shoulders and schools, like, who are, like, the kids, and they used to like, not to protect you from the boys to protect you from the teachers. I'm like, what teacher is getting turned down from my little
Starting point is 00:17:02 scrawny 11-year-old arm? Like, what the fuck is going on? These teachers now. You should vet your teachers better than my shoulders. Nah, these teachers now, where was these teachers when I was in high school? Because we wouldn't have said nothing if the teacher was giving us some pussy.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah, I would have never got. Listen, I know it's wrong to say, but I completely agree with them. What? Fam. If me and my homies that was in high school, Listen. Well, actually, no, I'm telling everybody, but not in a... No, but we ain't telling the faculty. Like, we're not going to the police. The faculty here is kids run their mouth and shit gets back to faculty. Man, they did it put us in room like, yo, is it true? I'm like, I don't know what y'all
Starting point is 00:17:35 talking about. I'm not rat. If we had a good-looking teacher, she was giving us some pussy, we're not fucking that pack up. We're going to keep it going. This is so bad. No, it's not right. Now when they be like, yo, students told and I'm like, they did what? Why would you fuck that up? Well, because now the students are aware that that's statutory rape and that it's not okay. Because it is the definition of it. I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah, but I mean. And that's where double standards that I think we've all said and agree that we believe in them. Oh, yes, absolutely. I'm talking about if male students are having sex with a female teacher. With a, you know, a female teacher. It's wrong either way. Of court. No, we're, we know it's wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's wrong. by if we got to go in front of the judge, yes. No, it's wrong. But back on the block, like, they're going to be like, where, like, y'all, I'll be fucking my math teacher every week. And that's, and that is what's wrong with our society. Why? Last time I checked, he was the man in these streets.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah. Why not? She said she a young teacher. It doesn't. She's like 24. Yeah. She's one to, why would it, do you think there are any normal 24-year-olds that would want to fuck a 15-year-old boy?
Starting point is 00:18:44 You think the bitch is not normal? That bitch is nasty. But we're just talking about what if, if I was 16, ask somebody to talk about this subject. further. When I'm 16, if I'm dogging out one of my teachers, I'm not going to sit there like a victim. I'm the man.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I'm just telling you how a 16-year-old would think. No, I agree. Y'all are grown now. Y'all ain't 16. That shit is wrong and gross. That bitch should be locked up. Okay. But if you don't think, I would have been sitting there like.
Starting point is 00:19:11 No, of course that's 16-year-old. You know what the fuck I did on Saturday? I would have been hitting that. If 16-year-old me would have had a teacher that looked like Morris Chestnut or Denzel Washington? C-C-C, C. No, no, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh no, wait. Teenage girls aren't allowed to have hormones too. Only teenage girls. We can have hormones. We should protect women. It doesn't matter what happening, boys.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Protect women. You know, do what you want to do with us. Protect the women. No. Take advantage of me. But you see how men say that women don't care about them? Y'all don't care about yourselves. You're right.
Starting point is 00:19:38 In high school, I didn't give a fuck. I was eating Cheetos at 8 a.m. fucking Tater tots at 10. Chocolate milk. I didn't give a fuck about myself. You're right. And if you had the early luncher, so she was at like 11,
Starting point is 00:19:50 You eating a spicy chicken at 11 a.m. Trying to avoid the army recruiter. I didn't care about myself. You don't know what the fuck was going on. Yeah, I deserved a little head for my teacher at that point. It's the least they can do with the environment they created here. Fill me with all this bullshit at 11 a.m. And yeah, give me some head at 1.30.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Absolutely. Fucking right. Why not? We're back sponsored by Boost Mobile. Oh, my God. Unlimited talk, Tex and data. Rory, for $25 a month. Unlimited talk, Tex, and data for ad vet.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Listen, man. Shout out to Jeasy. Shout to Jeasy, man. Don't fuck your teachers. Thank you. And also why you can leave it because I could be talking about college. Everyone's above 18 there.
Starting point is 00:20:34 There you go. Oh, my God. I had a professor. Mm-hmm. There you go. Yo, my philosophy professor. He could have put you right on that desk, right? Shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:20:43 He still follow me on IG. I follow him back. I'll be liking his photos. I bet you do. He used to text me every morning to be, He said like, Demers, you're going to be on time today? Lock him up. He was flirting.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Lock his ass up. Well, I was grown. I was 20 at this point. That ain't grown. That ain't, you ain't grown. You were still living to your mother's house. The lobe isn't developed yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 If I didn't have to move to New York to record this podcast, I would still be living at my mother's house. It was free. Why do we knock that? Like, what the fuck I'm talking about? Didn't Prince Harry and them niggas still live at their motherhouse? The, the fucking, the castle? Wasn't that their mother's house? I'm jealous I was
Starting point is 00:21:19 because Irish House will get the fuck out at 18. Yeah. Or maybe we'll let you pay rent. I was so jealous of all my friends that stayed with their parents. Yeah. Like we knocked that in our culture. They was sitting there. You still live with your mom? I wish I did. Yeah. I wish I did. I'm dying to go back.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Y'all ever fire me? I'm right back there. Wake up every morning, smell breakfast. Oh, I missed that. She used to do my laundry. Ugh. Yeah, but at some point that would probably get old. Shit, I don't know. Why? I always had men that owned homes.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I just would leave when I was tired of being her. I always had men that owned homes. Go ahead, baby, Dee. What was their profession? Yeah, I know. Really a teacher. They were, no, they were not teachers. Was he a professor?
Starting point is 00:22:07 What was he a professor? Maul, I had Rory out with me this weekend. Where? Oh, yeah, this is why sometimes it's not good when your friends have your location. So I was leaving the GZ shit. I'm in tunnel traffic. And DeMaris's just like, yo, turn around. I was like, how the fuck? Oh, you're my location. She's like, yeah, just turn around right now. Yeah, I was at. She was a block away from where I was at. So I just hopped over. Oh, he's that same? The medium. I had, Roy was so miserable. He was sitting there smoke
Starting point is 00:22:36 a hookah drinking his wine. He said, yeah, I'm going to go home. I should have just stayed in that time that time. He was so miserable. Every time. Every time I go out, somebody called me to go out, I'm there for 20 minutes and I'm like I feel like I'm judging I'm like this what y'all be doing when y'all go out like this is this is it I could have been at the house and her and her friend were like
Starting point is 00:22:57 in a good mood and like I could tell that they had like they were at the peak of their night where I was coming down for my night so I wasn't in like the same vibe as them like I'm cool and they just they on the way up you were a widow you were a widow I mean I just I was also in a suit
Starting point is 00:23:12 oh you definitely the widow yeah he had the suit on with the with the bow tie untied. He looked cute though. I'm like, oh, you definitely could have got some holes. He was channeling his Justin Timberlake. Yeah. What's that?
Starting point is 00:23:23 What's that video? Suit and tie. Yeah, yeah. That's what you was on. You're Justin Timberlake suit and tie shit? No, I was actually just really hot. It was like 90 degrees. Yeah, it was hot as shit.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You know, I watched like half of the, the first part of the GZ show like on the side. Then I went out to the crowd. The moment I got to the crowd, I was like, why do I have this shit? This is my fuck is in basketball shorts next to me. I'm not wearing this shit no more. See, that would have been me.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I don't went there with somebody. Like, you listen, man, I'm just coming to see the show, man. Don't get me on camera. But then I seen when I got home. They went to another spot after. I was like, where do you find the energy? Oh, yeah, we went to. Yeah, I was outside outside.
Starting point is 00:23:59 We went to Stafford Room. We went to the strip club that she worked at. We were outside. There's still strip clubs in New York outside of, like, Queens? Well, she works at a gentleman's club. Oh. We were in Manhattan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:14 You could have went because you had the suit on already. Oh, I ended up going to a gentleman's club last night. You were a gentleman. With the suit on? No, no. No, I was actually in shorts. What gentlemen's club you went to last night? We went to Sapphire for like all of maybe 10 minutes. Good steak.
Starting point is 00:24:32 We were sitting there like, parked outside. I was like, do we even want to do this shit? And we was like, all right, fuck it. Let's just go in for a second. And the moment we get to the door, the bouncer is like, no, Rory and Mall. And we looked at each other like, all right. maybe this is meant to be. Maybe we made a good decision.
Starting point is 00:24:49 They probably thought he was Maugh. We were. Gave us a freak. Who you was with Jay? They did not think that that was me. They think Roy is you. Jamal. So they definitely probably thought that.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So. Yeah, that makes sense. Bouncer. Shout to the Bouncer. He gave us a bunch of drink tickets. We was like, we did make the right choice. Why did we doubt ourselves? All of five minutes.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Two chicks came up to us. We was like, let's get the fuck out of here, man. Yeah, at a strip club. Two women come up to you. No, it's just like, why? Why? What I'm just give my money away for an hour? You're in the strip club.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That's what you're supposed to do. Exactly. That's what I was like, let's get the fuck. I want to keep my money. I'm tired of just giving away money. It's like being at Disney World and get mad when Mickey woke up to you and start waving. You have Disney World. Mickey lives here.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And which is why. That's a pretty good analogy. We did the honorable thing because we've always seen, and I've even been that guy in the strip club of I'm not spending no money and then you're a dick at like the point of going there is to give strippers money yeah we did the honorable thing and was like let's get to fuck out here we even finished our first drink ticket yeah yeah let me let me get out of it let me get out of y'all way I'm not going to fuck up y'all night I hate being in the strip club and you like in the way yeah yeah we ain't spending let's get out of these they they got rent the first is in two days
Starting point is 00:26:06 they in here grimo hustling we ain't contributing we in the way let's get the let's come back on the 10th. You gotta go to a street club like the middle of the month. You don't go at the end of the month. Like, the bitch is in there hustling. Working for real. Listen. And I just like, I shit don't do nothing. Because at the gentleman's clubs like it's not, Starlets can be fun because you're kicking
Starting point is 00:26:26 it with your friends, bartenders, you just don't shit. It's more of a vibe than it is a strip club. Them gentlemen clubs like some skinny white bitch is going to put her long ass leg on mine. Like, I'm cool. But if she was a melancheted queen, you might have stayed
Starting point is 00:26:42 for a second drink. I would have said you don't need to do this. Why are you here? Let me take you out of the hell. What's your rate for life? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your life rate? What's your life rate?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Yeah, take them out the club. Man, how much you make at night? $3.50? I got you. Let's times that by forever. Yeah. Yeah. Nasty.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Oh, my God. But yeah, it was fun, man. Listen, I thought DeMaris got me all excited. She hit me about the parade. And I'm like, all right, this is one of my gay besties. I thought we was going to be outside for the parade. She pride fished me.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I did not pride fish you. Oh, that's why you was outside. You was being gay this weekend. No, I wasn't. I was actually being very straight. And it was so annoying because I really wanted to be gay with him. She fucking wanted to go do straight things. I was like, yo, why are you asked about the parade and you're not going?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Because I was around the corner from the parade. I was staying around the corner from the parade. and I'm sitting up here like, damn, well, Kay Lani is hosting pride. Like, let me hit Rory, see if he could. You ain't hit me and say, yo, I hit Kaylani. You ain't, dude. Like, I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:27:50 That's because I respect that queen and a straight white male texting her on the pride parade. You're right. Yeah, you can't do that. She can reply to me today, but not yes. You got to be gay to talk to Kaylani on pride. I think that's reasonable.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah. And as an ally, I felt like that, you know, today's not about me. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I get that. But yeah, I miss the parade. But would she be like hosting a float?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, you wanted to get on the float, like. No, I just wanted to hit her, see what the vibes was, like, you know? What parade do the streets have, Thanksgiving? Is that like our parade? St. Patrick's Day, that's our parade?
Starting point is 00:28:26 That's the heterosexual day. All right, cool, fuck. I'm outside next St. Patrick's. If there's one thing that will be used during St. Patrick's Day, it's the F word. Jesus, right? I can guarantee you that word is being said on Fifth Avenue. We have a gay, listener that writes me every
Starting point is 00:28:43 almost every episode says, hey, guys, I really don't appreciate the homophobic thing. Fuck you. Next. But you guys don't want to cut that, right? Who gives a shit? What did they say? What did they hit you and say? Well, he, he hit me and he, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:59 he's just like, why do you let them all go on like these gay rants? Like, I want to support you guys so bad. I really love y'all. When the last time I went on a gay rant? See, this, they make shit up. I don't even, matter of fact, I'm an ally to the gays. I'm like, you know, France the U.S. I'm an ally. That's probably like not the best example
Starting point is 00:29:15 with history, but I like I kind of see where you were trying to take it. But it hasn't been great the entire time. Israel and U.S.? Well, I mean Okay, he said Couldn't find a better pair. He said, y'all just let y'all just let Ma make jokes
Starting point is 00:29:31 on the pod's gay fan base. I know there may be a small amount of us that support you and Rory, but old man, too cool, fuck shit. Like how Maher started the pod is why he gets walked in the comments for being a bad podcaster. And then before that, he wrote me and said, Maul making gay and insane synonymous, this ep is crazy. It's not my place, straight white male,
Starting point is 00:29:48 but I do think Maul is an ally. He just has a different way of expressing it. You know what it is. I just, because if you want... And we appreciate your support. Listen, if you're gay and you want equality, right? You're going to get these jokes just like anybody else. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Okay. Where were we? I don't even know what the fuck we were talking about originally. Mainly we were talking about that you pride fished me. And I wanted to go to the parade. I'm sorry. I caught the let out. You did?
Starting point is 00:30:21 The let out for the parade is hilarious. Everybody's outside already. Yeah, I know. And nobody parties like gays. Like, it was lit in Chelsea after the parade. Really? Mm-hmm. And to the point, like, it was so much traffic.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, you might as well just park you're just parking park. I'm about to say nothing is. And have a couple shots with the gays outside. Nothing is worse than forgetting this, the pride parade in Manhattan. Oh my, you like, yo, why all of these blocks closed? Like, what is going? Oh, pride. And then you just got to shut up and just deal with it.
Starting point is 00:30:50 There's nothing you can do it. Every year. I don't know how I, every year I keep forgetting that it's pride until like the day. What I did know it was pride. I didn't expect to be in Manhattan yesterday. Where were you at Manhattan? We could have had dinner. I went, I was going through Manhattan to go to Brooklyn to get,
Starting point is 00:31:04 my cousin D. Mack is in town for a couple months. Oh, my mom. Vegan spot in Brooklyn that I've been wanting to take him to. So I finally took him yesterday We went early though We went around like 2 o'clock Yeah Oh shit
Starting point is 00:31:18 I mean So we had to fight through Should have linked us We were in Brooklyn 17 times I didn't see I didn't see I didn't see
Starting point is 00:31:25 I didn't see Jay's miss call Until the next day Like Okay I was like Jay called me four times Like I didn't But I saw your miss call And I had
Starting point is 00:31:33 Called you back But I ain't even know Jay had called me Yeah no We was we was We was in the streets No I know Once I saw he was driving
Starting point is 00:31:42 I was like, oh boy. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly he was driving. And this is a nameless, Jay. It's just somebody named Jay.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, yeah. Just Jay. You figure out who. I've never been more uncomfortable in my own city in my life. For real? Why? Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:32:00 We was moving around. That's all. Okay. Well, you know, it's going to be a crazy summer if you keep moving like that with that person. It was the first night. I was, listen, I want,
Starting point is 00:32:11 night one. Night one. I want to say hello to the dogs. Yeah, I get it. I understand. I thought about just two great Danes in this studio and just how all of this. Oh, my God. No.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Oh, God. That's just a nightmare. But, I mean, yeah, other than that, it was a weekend, to say the least. Cool weekend. We had good weather, even though it was hot. It wasn't like, I think that 103 degree day, that kind of like, that prepped us for, like the 90 degree day. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Like we could appreciate 88, 90 when we had to do 103. Yeah. First day of summer. That's like the second day officially summer, right? Yeah. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Summer got straight to business. When it was 88 yesterday. Summer was at the motherfucking starting line, waiting for that gun to go off, nigga, like, I'm going to get you niggas. I was sitting there like, should I bring a hoodie out today? Fucking 88. Yeah, the other day it was like, it went down to like 71.
Starting point is 00:33:04 That was crazy. That was Thursday, right? We was here. Last week? Yeah, it got kind of cool over the weekend. But anyway, Summer's here. Yes. And I believe it was Saturday. I opened up
Starting point is 00:33:15 Twitter spaces, or maybe it was Friday. I can't remember. But Cardi B did her is it annual at this point? I love her Twitter spaces. She does them probably what, once a month? Yeah. I got to catch one of them, man. I never heard of Cardi Twitter space. They're informative. And I appreciate that she doesn't invite anyone else up there. She'd be cursing niggas out. Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been cursed out a couple times on her spaces before.
Starting point is 00:33:42 For real? Yeah. Why? I just stuff we've said. Yeah. We said something that need us to get cursed out. Why are you looking at? I ain't say shit. No, every time she's like, but shout out to Demaris after she curses you and I. But why is she always ends it with, but shout out to Damaris. I'm like, why she cursing us out? Well, all right, this Twitter space is she wasn't cursing us out. She has in the past. She's even done live videos. Like, we talked about it. on here before. And even the last time when it was in her community
Starting point is 00:34:10 where she was typing. Yeah. She's done this with us before. But we had talked about feeling like the album release date, like when they announced it, was it rushed?
Starting point is 00:34:23 They smoked us in the comments because they were saying how could us seven years be rushed? And I think people kind of missed what we were saying. It wasn't the time in that. It was just the regime change. And then outside didn't have a video,
Starting point is 00:34:36 didn't have artwork. like they just announced some shit. Yeah, it felt a little rushed. So Cardi addressed that and she was cursing a lot of people out that had to do with podcasts. And once she kept going, I was like, this can't be about us. Because she was saying of like certain things people were saying about her and negativity, I was like, all right, this got to be another podcast I don't know about. But she did address the rush thing and said we were completely wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:00 She has been working on this music for quite some time. This was the plan all along. and then went on to prove our point. Of what? That outside was rushed. Oh. She said that it was a song she liked but wasn't really sure about.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It leaked and then Atlantic was like, well, it's leaked, so just put it out. She said they didn't have artwork for it, no visuals, no nothing. She was already working on an album stuff. So while she said we were completely wrong, she went on, I feel, to prove exactly what we were trying to say.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Like, that felt weird. If you're announcing the album finally and you put a single out the week before, Cardi is a visual first type of artist. She has incredible videos. It felt rushed. Cardi said they didn't even have single artwork. I think she,
Starting point is 00:35:44 I think it was taken wrong, what we said. Because if an artist was to hear somebody say, yo, do you reflect the artist is being rushed? I can see how Cardi could take that because it's like, why would the label rush her to do something? So I can understand the pushback. Like, I wasn't rushed. I get that part of it.
Starting point is 00:36:03 But we were saying how it just didn't feel like it was a cohesive plan. Like, this wasn't the plan. It was just like, oh, we landed on this. All right, fuck it, let's get behind it. Let's make it happen. So it wasn't, I guess I could see how Cardi felt the way about the word being pushed or being rushed to drop this. But if that's what happened, then that's the definition of being rushed.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It was like, yo, this wasn't the plan. So now we got to go with this. And it's not even so much. Cardi because I understand that's her art. She's an artist. Artists are supposed to be sensitive as Erica Badoo says.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'm an artist. I'm sensitive about my shit. I totally get that. It's more so the fan base that weirds me out a little bit. Are we not allowed to speculate about something that we're like,
Starting point is 00:36:52 we didn't say anything negative about Cardi? We said we're excited for the project. This is not attacking people. And this is why this generation is the most soft fucking pussies on earth. Speculating about something we saw is not attacking anyone. We're not attacking your favorite artist. We saw something which she even confirmed that it was rushed. And we didn't even say that was a fact. We were just
Starting point is 00:37:14 putting the facts together. Regime change, no video. It was a leak. It felt weird. And then you put a whole album announcement. I don't know. It felt rushed to me. Right. But people don't put all of that into consideration when they just hear, yo, their favorite artist is being rushed. Or somebody said their favorite artist is being rushed. They don't put that into account like, Well, the people that were behind the first album are no longer at the label. It's of my belief. I'm guessing it's yours, too, that they're probably no longer at the label because they couldn't get a second cardi album out. I think it had something to do with it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So it's like, okay, regime changes, new people in the building, single that has no artwork, nothing that's just out. Album announced. I think it's fair to be like, yo, did they rush her to do this? Like, did they just, like, do they even know Cardi? who are these people that are in the building now behind this new Cardi project? Like, but if Cardi is saying this was the plan all along, let me shut the fuck up. All right, go with the plan.
Starting point is 00:38:12 The outlet was, but the outside part wasn't. So, I mean, I guess everyone's right in this case. We were right on that. And, but I was happy to hear she said that there was no, obviously, visual for outside. She is working on visuals for the records that were planned prior to that. And, like, she's focused on the rollout. She said when Bodak Yellow came out, did. was Invasional Privacy, 15 Bodak Yellows?
Starting point is 00:38:37 No. It had a bunch of different sounds. Same one with this one. Then she went on, which this is where I was like, she had to be talking about other podcasters. She was like, then people are saying that the label picked the album title and like all this stuff where I was like, at this point she can't be talking about us.
Starting point is 00:38:53 No. She's not. I mean, I'm on the side that nobody's ever talking about me unless they say my name. That's just me. So, you know, I mean, I think. Hey, Beyonce. Well, I hope Cardi knows that. But we support her and we're looking forward to the project.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Only to Merce. Huh? Only to Merce. Oh, well, I mean. A funny. It's my friend. I'm supporter. I'm looking forward.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I just want good music. That's all I'm on. I've been talking about this Cardi's second album for years. Only because, like I said, you know, the first one had so much acclaim and success. We got to hear. You know, this one, she's a different woman now. You know, a lot has changed in her life. I want to hear it in the music.
Starting point is 00:39:31 So I don't care about all of this single. Who picked It's Cardy, man Put the fucking album out Let it be good music on there Let us enjoy it That's where I stand I just wanted to hear
Starting point is 00:39:40 What she did with this project That's it Yeah Russ put out Wild on Friday as well Shout out to Russ man Great project And congrats
Starting point is 00:39:48 To Russ for having The number one Hip Hop album On iTunes, Apple charts All that Completely independent Uploaded himself
Starting point is 00:39:56 To TuneCore Like That's really big Yeah Shout out to It's kind of fucking Crazy The numbers
Starting point is 00:40:02 he does independently. And I don't care if we keep repeating it. I'm going to champion it every single time. No, absolutely. Doesn't compromise on the product. He's consistent and he does the shit by himself. He shows you how to do it to.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's not like he's hoarding the information. Matter of fact, you guys get mad at him when he tries to give y'all too much game. Like, Russ is one of those guys that he's going to tell you exactly what he's going to do and then he's going to go out there and do it and then do it big. So I love everything that Russ is doing. Shout out to him. And he, Russ be rapping, man. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Fuck, but anybody that's rapping, anybody that's saying something, anybody that's really making dope music and salute, man, because there's a lot of trash-ass shit
Starting point is 00:40:41 out here in the space, man. Oh shit, we were talking about, um, who was it, MIA, that, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:48 Doche and Tyler maybe jacked the beat. Yeah. We got another case. Nellie stole Spin the Block from Peach. Pige made a spin the block song
Starting point is 00:40:58 that we played in this studio for a year and a half. Mm-hmm. Two years, maybe? Like, Peach has a number one single that like, we just keep it into ourselves. Yeah, he just got it in on the hard drive.
Starting point is 00:41:07 If you know, you know type of shit. Yeah, yeah. It's an untitled link that you just have to have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Page made the greatest spin the block record ever. And then sure enough, when I come in here, Pete's like, yo, you heard the Nelly spend the block shit. He hit Space Bar.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I thought Pete was playing his song first. And he was like, nah, that's the Nelly one. Nellie might have, he got a, he jacked your song, Peach. What are we doing? I'm no good lawyer, man. And Demaris, how do you feel? Because you were the muse of the song. Yeah, I was the inspiration, Spend the Block.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I believe you're in the lyrics. I am. Spend the Block on me, Baby D. Yeah. That's the lyrics. Spend the Block on Me, Baby, D. And all Nelly did was Ashanti, like, just changed it to that. It was like, yeah, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:41:52 This is feeling like, Ferrell, Marvin Gay, Estate,ish. Yeah. This is what this is. We got to get Brandy on this shit. They can't do my guy peeves like that. So Nelly got a song, Spend the Block. It's pretty good. is it
Starting point is 00:42:03 I was playing it earlier I thought that was like some trolling shit you was playing that's Nelly that shit is bad yeah it wasn't that great that's bad and I fuck with Nellie but that come on
Starting point is 00:42:14 what we're doing that I think it probably had to do with the rollout of their show oh okay because he spin the block is that theme song of the show that I don't know but I'm just guessing
Starting point is 00:42:23 that it has to do with the show coming out and he spun the block to his ex and got back together but I don't that's one of those I think y'all got a
Starting point is 00:42:31 live with. I think it'll grow growing you guys. It's not. I know when the song has the potential to grow me, Roy, that doesn't have a... You know how like American gangster? Everyone didn't get it until like a few years later. It finally got us just do. I think this is the American gangster. Nelly sing this. This is nothing like that. Nothing like that at all. It's got a little country appeal. Like it's... No, I get what you're going to do. Like... I told you. I liked the other shit he did years ago with Tim McGraw. That's my shit. Was that Tim McGrow? The over and over again? That's my shit.
Starting point is 00:43:00 of classics. That's my shit. A few years ago, that's something might be 20 years old. Right? I said a few. It's 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:43:06 God, damn. What is time? Spend the block, though. Yeah, no, I don't know. That didn't, when Pete was playing that, I didn't really, my ear didn't perk up.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like, oh, what is that? Nah. The Ross and Farrell for the money record, I like, I feel like. That's growing on me. I feel like the-
Starting point is 00:43:22 I didn't like it at first. The snippet did bigger than when the record came out. I saw no one talking about it. I think it's a great record. This, that record.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I watched, I didn't like it at first. And then I sent it to my homeboy. And then he was like, yo, the video, like, kind of made me like it. So I watched the video. And then I listened to it. And I was like, oh, it ain't that bad. But at first, at first, listen, it was kind of like, it's like when you taste something new at a restaurant, you eat it.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And you're like, it's like the spices and the flavors is kind of like, I don't know how I feel about this yet. But you got to pair it with something. Like, yo, if you take a piece of that and put it with that together, then it's like, okay. No, it was like the first time I ate ass. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Just I grew to, you got to go from. Now I fucking love it. Yeah, there you go. You get a little clit, side of the clit with the ass. Yeah. Entree. That's the whole sides. There you go.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Grab a nipple. It's delicious. You know. Yeah. God forbid she has back dimples. Demers, you all right? No, I just shout out to a back dimple crew. Back dimple crew. You got back dimples?
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yes. Oh, never mind. You're in a relationship. Say it never mind you in a relationship Yo what the fuck Never mind you got a man My bad I want to respect y'all
Starting point is 00:44:39 I want to respect y'all union and all that Your union No disrespect Why is union so funny to me I respect your union You got to tell the ladies I respect you a union You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:44:54 I ain't gonna come in between that But sometimes you don't respect the union You never respect it I don't care about that nigga I don't give a fun I don't respect your men Yeah, at all. I want to say what the fuck I want to say?
Starting point is 00:45:03 But I respect you, so it's all good. That's just funny. Sorry. The new music. Yeah. Well, anyways, T. Payne throws shade a drink. Still? No, this, did we not talk about this on Thursday?
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Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, we didn't talk about this on Thursday. We saw the clip after we finished recording on Thursday. We were talking about it off mic where T-Pain was on with Crash Dummies and was saying, He wanted to take Drake's advice as far as bowing out gracefully. More or less, I want to retire before the fans make me retire type of thing. And Drake commented under it, you know, saying something of this guy's always, this guy always has resentment for me. You can hear it every time he speaks on my name.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And we had said on Thursday, I was like, I feel like Drake didn't listen to that whole clip. But then over the weekend when the internet started bringing up a bunch of T-Pain Drake stuff, and I was like, all right, now I see why Drake thinks. this way. Yeah. I think I never paid attention to it, but I've been on that side where I've peeped somebody for years quietly saying certain shit. Like, yeah. Nah, you were saying something in that clip, even if it didn't come across that way. I've been studying for years that you've been saying weird. You know the people that have been throwing a little, some shots and have had little things to say. And then, you know, as artists, of course, they know probably when it started, what it stems from.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Maybe a record was sent. Didn't get sent back. didn't do it. And then you got to watch. Because, you know, I mean, let's be honest. Sometimes artists will do that. They'll say no to a record and then pay attention to how the artist behaves. Like, since you didn't do it, watch what they start saying in interviews. Watch what they start tweeting.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Small kind of sending thing. Just because I said no to one record, I didn't want to do a record. Now of a sudden this person has all these little slight remarks, these little sly remarks about me whenever my name comes up. Like, you know where it stems from. So I think Drake has been paying attention to. T. Payne's energy for some time, and this was just another moment where he was like, yo, this guy, like he said, this guy's always had some, what he said, resentment or? Yeah. Which, I mean, sure, maybe Tepain does. And all those clips, I did start to get it,
Starting point is 00:52:53 to the point that when somebody pulled up an old tweet of T. Payne adding cat stacks and said, did Drake fuck question mark? I thought it was a fake tweet and then I clicked it and it was a real, like, it was on his, like, I thought. I could click. I had the original tweet in my hand. Yeah, yeah. I was like, wait, what sparked this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Was Cat Stacks and Drake even around at the same time? I think there was a thing years ago where I think she said... She got deported before comeback season. But didn't she say she slept with Drake at one point? Then she said she slept with everybody. Posted a video or something like that, like alluding to that, I think years ago. I think she may have said that or something. And I think T. Payne probably just asking her for confirmation.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Should we give Cat Stacks her flowers? I feel like a lot of these bitches got the... style from Cat Stacks. Like, we judged Cat Stacks at the time, but what she was doing is now the norm. We don't even blink her eyes. A thousand bitches doing what she's doing. That is true. Like, it was, she, that is true. It was national news. She got deported. Like, she really kicked the door in for you hoes. Yeah, that is true. To lie on men and like, like, she, was a fucking trailblazer. You make a point. She absolutely, she might deserve some flowers. She might, like, when we start going into the story of Cat Stacks. And by flowers, I mean the
Starting point is 00:54:06 the rose vibrator. Yeah, yeah, just 20 at all. That'd be the sickest bouquet ever. Sorry, baby, Dee. Thank you. Can you start the clock? Yeah, I had to stop it. I know.
Starting point is 00:54:18 But yeah, man, I think Cat Stacks deserves her. Like, what Superhead did was, like, minimal to what Cat Stacks was out here doing. Yeah, and like, Cat Stacks, she was out here. She was just too early ahead of her time. Yeah, and she, you know, like, we talk about the blog era where, you know, when it went from CDs to digital, like, I feel like, I feel like Superhead was in print. Like you go to Barnes and almost get her book. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Castax had World Star on Lock. Oh, good times. Yeah. And rest and peace to Q, if I remember correctly, Q tried to like bail her out and get her a green card because the bitch was making him so much money. Yeah. No, she was definitely ahead of her time, man.
Starting point is 00:54:55 She was viral before viral was like a thing. It was at the peak of World Star. It was Fight Compilations, MMG music video trailers and cat stacks. Yeah. That was it. Yeah, she stayed on the band.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Of course there's a little shit throughout the week in there. She was on a banner. She was on a bander every week on the world. Every week, you know what time it was. I'm going to get a cat stacks video. I'm going to see a bunch of Russians knocking out a bunch of fucking people.
Starting point is 00:55:25 And I'm going to know that Meek Mill and Rick Ross have a music video coming at some point. That's nostalgic though, real shit. I still go on World Star from time to time just to see. Really? Yeah, just to see what they're doing over there? You guys just checking, like, what they're doing over there?
Starting point is 00:55:42 Just to see it. I can't even remember the last time. Yeah, is it still the same layout with that red writing and the... Yeah. It's a little different. They kind of trying to... Oh, yeah, it's a little. It's a little TMZ-ish, a little...
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah. You know... Josh, can you pull up World Star for me, please, just so I can see what it looks like? Yeah, they, you know... They changed the layout. I mean, they still got the hose here. No, no, no, no. Listen, the product didn't change much.
Starting point is 00:56:06 The layout just as a little, if you ever met, a little different. What was their original baddies? World Star Honey, what was their name? There was a whole tab at one point, yeah. Was it candy? Was it World Star Candy? Eye candy, was it? Eye candy, something like that.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Oh, that was a time. Yeah. It's funny, I listened to a podcast when Q was alive. He did an interview. World Star, he was buying up porn sites. Like, that's how Kew. Hugh even got into the shit. He was just buying up a bunch of that shit
Starting point is 00:56:36 and you could throw ads on it. Like he had like 15 porn shit. And that's like, World Star was originally like some weird porn and he just changed the URL. And I mean, he's, he stuck with it. No, listen, man, World Star is legendary.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That's a legendary site. Legendary. People with that was like, when you, that shit was on World Star, you was hype. The way we say Ether became like a verb and, oh, World Star was, people were just yelling it
Starting point is 00:57:02 when someone got knocked out. Like, it became a world. Don't get World Star. Don't get World Star. Like, that became the Summer Jam. World Star might have, now that they think about it, World Star might have boosted the crime rate.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Yeah. They might have a hand in the crime rate going up. Because, yeah, they was the first, like, yo, like, record me punching him in his face. That was like, it would live on World Star. Like, you would fight somebody and you would send it to World Star. Like, they, so that was like the thing. Like, yo, get some, get it on World Star.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Like, the way we own out. The fight compilations. You want to just sit on the fight. compilation. The way we all say now, like anytime something bad is happening, everyone takes their phones out and records it instead of helping. World Star started that. Yeah, yeah, definitely. First time was like, oh yeah, I got to record this for WorldStub. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody started looking around like, who about to get punched in their face? Sharkeesha, no. Was that on World Star?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Of course. Legend. Yeah. Rest in peace to Pop Smoke, when Pop Smoke first came out, the first thing everyone said was like, yo, that was the kid, that went viral on World Star he had gotten like jumped by like a bunch of bloods in Brooklyn and it was like one of the
Starting point is 00:58:11 most viral fucking videos in World Star like 10 years later Pop Smoke comes out and it was like damn I've never seen anyone turn over a viral moment like now people don't even talk about it but that was the first thing that was like his de Grassee I was like yo you know that was the guy from that video right I was like no holy shit
Starting point is 00:58:29 that is him world star is legendary man shout out the World Star rest of peace Q man Yeah, for sure. But that also proved that pop smoke wasn't lying. Oh, no. Fuck, was gang banging at 11. Really in the streets. Really outside. Definitely. Rest of peace, pop smoke.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Absolutely. That's also a crazy story to me. Like, he was a World Star viral guy and then became a rapper like, I don't know, man. Only in America. How much money do you think World Star was bringing at his peak? You run a lot of ads to that shit. I'm sure. Was the last World Star exclusive?
Starting point is 00:59:05 Was it story of Auditon? Was that the last one? I can't remember. I don't know if that was the last one. Like the way we can remember last time Flex broke a record was Otis that day. I feel like the last World Star shit was pushed. Which even then World Star was kind of in a weird place. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Legendary shit. Greatest website of all time? No. One of them. Spank bang. Oh. probably owned by Q as well yeah
Starting point is 00:59:37 Spank Bang, X videos Which one was Spank, I know X videos Which one was Spank Bank? Spank bang Is it bank? Spank Bank, B-A-N-G Okay You know my Spank Bang?
Starting point is 00:59:47 No Oh man Oh it's just Josh said teach teacher fuck student Yeah That's what originated at Right there
Starting point is 00:59:56 Spank Bang Why he's got old ass fucking 70 year old Sam That shit might be your flavor What you mean What did you guys That snitched on me
Starting point is 01:00:04 The ad knew my office Like they heard to say teachers, it's like, all right, he goes to teachers right here. Okay, it's like porn hub. Yeah. Okay. All right. This is the horniest podcast to ever podcast. Just want to make that clear.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Do we think that the Chris Brown and Drake truce and friendship is over? Why? What happened now? Chris Brown went on his IG story and just said T-Pain is one of the goats, Pioneer, like shout out to T-Pain. And it was during the time when the Drake and T-Pain debacle was happening on IG. I don't think Chris just woke up, didn't check the timeline. I was like, you know who I'm going to shout out today?
Starting point is 01:00:39 T. Payne. Okay. There might be something behind that. There might be a little funny move from Chris. I mean, I didn't see the, what was it? He just said T-Pain was a goat. Yeah, one of the pioneers. Did T-Pain, like, pop out of his show?
Starting point is 01:00:55 Did he perform with him? No. Oh, yeah. There might be a little, there might be a little shave room right there, a little shade. But I think something happened behind the scenes. and speculating, of course. But there was the video of Chris dancing and not like us. I was like, all right, something's afoot.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Random thought. It was not a random thought, dog. Not a random thought, not a random post. T. Payne is one of the goats of my generation. That's a fact. Giving you your flowers, pioneer, love you, my brother. Now watch, when does this episode air tomorrow? Watch by Thursday, Chris Brown going on a rant like,
Starting point is 01:01:29 I don't have no beef with Drake. Me and T. T. Payne is cool. I wanted to give him his flowers. A random thought. It's really a random thought. You bitch-ass niggas, niggas. If he do that, I respect it. If he clear that up, I respect it.
Starting point is 01:01:40 No problem with that. Like, if it becomes a thing when he's seeing it, like people trying to allude to the fact that he's throwing shade at Drake and he wants to clear it up, I respect that. Yeah, clear it up. Let people know. Like, nah, that's not what that was. If that's not what it was.
Starting point is 01:01:53 But if we don't get no clearing up, we're going to just assume that that's what it is. Like, yo, you're a little bit of shade. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me. And then yells at us for being. being stupid for not realizing that he's Pai Roo.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Yeah. Like, I'm Pah Roo. Why would y'all think that? Every time he's, I'm like, I wait, huh? I don't know. That's one of the greatest things that Beyonce and JZ ever decided to do in their life is not, is not clear up. They don't clear up shit that's wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Unless it's so bad that they need to like file a lawsuit behind closed doors because it feels like, you know what I'm saying? When somebody's really slandering them. But like rumors. they never cleared up because so you never know what's true or what's not with them because they don't clear shit up whether it's true whether it's not true we ain't saying shit so you can't tell the difference and I think that when I just bought that up because of the Chris Brown thing like you said if he doesn't clear it up because he clears up everything else we know like
Starting point is 01:02:48 ah that's probably true because you clear everything else to fuck up it's just safer not to say anything at all yeah I think with Jay and B though they're so far removed from and and they're also from that school of gossip addressing yeah like it's from a young generation when you fucking get on the internet and yeah yeah of course but there's older people that are j and biance's age where they also address stuff too all i'm saying it's just labor jz and bianca
Starting point is 01:03:12 it's safer not to what do we what's the name i mean if you jay and bionce age and you just on the internet every day clearing up room was just in the third every week your name is benzino you failed oh like you got it wrong something went wrong you can't be 50 plus years old
Starting point is 01:03:31 40 plus years old every week on the internet clearing up rumors like come on. Well, first of all, it's not act like Jay's entire thing was clearing up rumors in the music. Like, he wouldn't go, sometimes he would go on the radio
Starting point is 01:03:46 and clear shit up, but, I mean, lemonade in 444 is cleaning some shit up. Yeah, but that's different because that was, you know, something that happened in their relationship that was real.
Starting point is 01:03:58 It was clearing that up. Like, you know, this is what happened. This is what we're staying. We're working through it, you know, together. my wife, my husband, you know, that was, you know, them talking to us about what we had known was already confirmed, like, okay, cool. Listen, I'm talking about dumb shit, like.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Be it's so cold that we saw the whole video of Solange trying to whip Jay-Z's ass, and then Beyonce said, of course, sometimes shit go down when it's a billion dollars on an elevator. And all of us was like, damn, I didn't even thought of it that way. Exactly. Like, no, hold on, Beyonce. Don't trick me. I saw the fucking video. Oh, my, bitch.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I hear you, but one moment. No, that's a bar, but wait. I saw the video. No, that's one of those like... That had nothing to do with money. That's that, that's the APs. That's how Alonzo more than me was... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:47 It was a couple billion on that elevator. I guess you got a point. There's a fact there. There's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah. Yeah, man. Everybody's human, man.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Everybody have human moments. That's all. What did you think the security guard did with his deposit? from the what was that hotel retire it was at
Starting point is 01:05:09 the standard on the wayside highway and 14th I don't know what he did but he got his payday
Starting point is 01:05:16 was nice I believe the rumor was 200 K look that up I'm not sure but that I think
Starting point is 01:05:20 the rumor was 200K that he got from TMZ or somebody that's the doc I want to see of where are they
Starting point is 01:05:25 now of the guys that like leaked all this like what did you do with your money was it worth it 200
Starting point is 01:05:30 like if you blew that shit in the AC that's all he got that was 200 K he could have got more than that.
Starting point is 01:05:39 50,000 for that? Oh, no. Yeah, they lowballed them. Yeah. We would still be at the negotiation table if I had that video. Years later, I'll be like, nope, not enough. I'm holding out too. Yeah, that's not going to get it.
Starting point is 01:05:52 That's not going to get it done. Nope. Yeah, I'm flop it around for sure. Need another zero on there. Oh, what? See, women don't stick together. That's crazy. And she probably wasn't a Jay and Beyonce fan.
Starting point is 01:06:04 She probably just knew that they was famous and was like, I have a different. video of them. All right. You guys remember the day when we all saw it. Can you imagine being at your security desk on your shift probably trying to flirt
Starting point is 01:06:20 you ain't got nothing to do with that? You just sitting there like this like oh shit is that Jay Beyonce? Oh you mean if you're seeing it live? You just see them start scrapping. Oh my God. Like coffee everywhere I would be screaming like yo Salon just beating the shit out of Jay Z right now.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Yeah they wouldn't have known. They wouldn't have known and I sold that video, but it would have been signs. It would have been signs. You would have been like, what is Ace Bailey doing, man? Did he go to Utah? Did he get to Utah yet? All right, thank God, man.
Starting point is 01:06:53 No, I need confirmation. I don't believe it. Jesus Christ. Yeah, he was. Yeah, there'd be signs. Did y'all see a few months ago that, you know, they cracked down a bunch of COs in MDC, Brooklyn, you know, for Britson.
Starting point is 01:07:07 bringing in paraphernalia, whatever. One of the COs drove to work in a Maserati. I mean, Maseratis ain't that expensive. COs make good money. I do think CEOs make good money. Yeah. How many CEOs you know just off that salary? If you go to a prison staff parking lot,
Starting point is 01:07:25 you just, it's just Ashton Martins and Maserati's everywhere? Well, Aston Martin is a little different from a Maserati. But, I mean, you can get, shit. A Benzes cost with a Maserati cost. Fam. iPhones were going for $5,000 in MDC Brooklyn and they found 200 of them
Starting point is 01:07:45 and then this guy shows up in a mazorati Well, when you paint that picture I mean like I said it'll be signs there'll be signs all I'm saying Yeah but some mazorati is 70,000 or 200,000 You took the fucking seven to work for three years
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah You took the Q100 of Rikers with the whole staff and then you show up in that. Yeah, no, definitely when you paint that picture, yeah, this will be the first person we bring in the office. Let's ask Paul first. Yeah, let's talk to him first.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Let's get him out the way because we might have to cut this investigation really short. We might have solved this immediately. Like, yeah. If you show up in that, you know, it's like, okay, a bunch of iPhones on the island, yeah. I think we know who's behind something here, yeah. Listen, you said allegedly on one of those podcasts where there's bricks and for $1,000. I said we should quit podcasting. If iPhones is going for
Starting point is 01:08:42 5K in the feds right now, I'm in the wrong business. Oh, yeah. Rick Ross, I get it. Yeah, of course they're going for 5K. Absolutely. A phone in prison? No, I... Shit, even the flips in the article I was reading were going for like $300.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah, absolutely. Of course, I go. 5K... I will raid the Boost Mobile store tomorrow. Absolutely. And show right up to the MDC. 100th Century Street. Yo, I got you.
Starting point is 01:09:07 4,000. No, iPhones in prison is definitely Because you got to think about People that's locked up They want to keep in touch Because you're in prison And the whole thing is about Kind of be disconnected
Starting point is 01:09:19 From the outside world You have an iPhone in prison You know every You're in tune with everything that's going on Like This is that I can't go there You know what's saying I'm in jail
Starting point is 01:09:31 But it's like you know what's going on You hear the music Everything is your iPhone movies You can get fucking Netflix on your iPhone. It's like you can do everything on your iPhone. Niggas in jail. You look at some dudes that's locked up. You look at they Zell and they cash app, why they're in prison. It's like you got
Starting point is 01:09:46 20,000 sitting in his cash app and Zell and he's locked up. Yeah. Shit, one of my favorite Todd Allen songs of all time. Miracle. She was recorded in prison. There you go. She was incredible. There you go. Yeah, absolutely. Speaking of prison, we
Starting point is 01:10:02 are recording this. From prison. A mental prison. Yeah. We were recording this on Monday, June 30th at 3.30 p.m. We have not heard a verdict of the Puff trial. We were told that there will be a decision today, right? Well, they are deliberating. The jury is in deliberation. I don't know if the decision will come today. They're saying that it's already, it's already been some shit going on. One of the jurors not following instructions, you know, it's so we don't, we, I don't think that we will, we'll get a decision today. I don't think that I don't think that
Starting point is 01:10:38 happened today. I think we'll get one possibly by the end of the week. But I don't think we'll get a decision today. It says one juror could not follow the pivotal instructions they were given at the start of their deliberations. The judge sent the jury back to work and did not call in an alternate. Compromised. So, I mean, I don't know if today is feasible, but I do think by the end of this week, we will have a verdict in on the Sean Combs trial. You think, you think Fonsworth Bentley got to one of the jurors? No, I think Fonsorff is wherever he's at. He's staying far to fuck away from this, and he don't want his name brought up in
Starting point is 01:11:16 nothing. What's our prediction? I know some stuff was dropped, which we talked about last week. I see most people saying they think Puff's going to walk. I mean, the charge of still soliciting prostitutes and all that is still there. Like, he's going to be guilty of something. Yeah. He's not going to walk.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I'm just curious what that sentence looks like. With this stuff that they did prove. as far as soliciting sex workers and flying people, places to have sex. So, I mean, I don't understand how people could think he's going to walk free. But, I mean, the kidnapping
Starting point is 01:11:51 or the shit that could have got him each one of those charges is 10, 15 years. Yeah. Those are off, but Huff is still going to sit down. Yeah, I'm on the side of that. I think that we will see him sentenced to probably 10 years.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I think that we'll, you know, we'll see that. He will appeal, obviously. His team will appeal the sentencing. But I don't see, I don't see him walking out of prison and just being back with it. I don't see it. 50 had posted something interesting to the closing arguments from Diddy's lawyer. 50 was like, yo, his lawyer just pretty much fucked him.
Starting point is 01:12:31 How so? Whatever his lawyer said in his closing statements, closing arguments. I think 50 was on the side of. damn they're going to think his lawyer was working for me I don't know what he said in those statements but and then there was another account I filed on Twitter one of these lawyers and they were kind of
Starting point is 01:12:50 saying the same thing like the closing arguments weren't strong on Ditty's behalf yeah and I did see those reports as well damn they did with 50 said damn they did dirty them closing statements man I could have done better than that how much he paid them lawyers
Starting point is 01:13:06 she didn't have the worst lawyer you are the worst lawyer you are the worst lawyer remember the name Mark Agnifillo he just got Diddy ass 20 years so I don't know
Starting point is 01:13:18 we'll see I don't think that he'll walk out of this though I think he will do some time I think he'll be sentenced to at least 10 years I don't see him just going home though
Starting point is 01:13:27 let's say he does in some hypothetical shit beat this this week I don't think it's ever going to stop like I think Diddy for his remaining years even during this trial more people have come up not on a civil suit on criminal charges.
Starting point is 01:13:41 It was another guy last week that came out that, you know, I do believe Tony Busby was behind it. But I just think he's going to constantly be in litigation or in jail. Maybe he'll get bail. But he's going to be in court. Now stop. This is never going to stop. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:58 So I don't know. Either way, we'll find out. I'm guessing this week. I don't see it going much longer than the week. But it's not looking good, man. That's just the bottom line. And, you know, and then we'll have to come back and talk about what this means, you know, just for the culture. Like, you know, one of the most beloved figures in our culture will be sentenced or will be, you know, his case will be closed this week.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Whether he'll be found innocent or guilty, we'll have to wait for that. But either way, what does it mean, though? Like, guilty or innocent? What does it mean? What does it look like? If Puff is innocent and comes home. what does it look like? Does he,
Starting point is 01:14:38 is he met with open arms? Is he met with the fan base waiting on him? Is he putting out music? Is he, you know, is he selling alcohol? Is he having parties? Is he still the same puff that we grew up knowing? Obviously not the same, but I do think he is going to be met with more open arms
Starting point is 01:14:56 than we're expecting. Even to the point of when everyone rightfully so completely turned on him when that footage came out, the amount of people that I have seen that have been paying attention to this trial that have a platform have been very pro-puffing this based off what he's being accused of, not the Cassie situation there. And if you go through all the comments, I'm not, again, I'm not saying the timeline is the whole world, but everyone's kind of on Puffside. Yeah. Like, I think he will be met with open arms.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Yeah, he was kind of, I mean, when he was, before he went in, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, hugging babies, taking pictures. Yeah, like so, you know, I think it's one of those things where, you know, we hear things about, you know, people and it's just like, you just get to a point where you just realize people don't care, man. Like people don't, well, as much people as you think care really don't care. It could be, you know, charges that Puff is facing, charges that Tori is facing, charges that are Kelly is facing, whoever.
Starting point is 01:16:02 More times than none, people just don't give a fuck. If it doesn't directly affect them, you know, one thing we always taught to do growing up is mind our business. Doesn't affect us, care less. So, you know, that's where the open arms come in at because it's like there'll be people that it didn't affect. It didn't affect them. They didn't go through this. They didn't. They wasn't, you know, in a fucking sex cult for years against their will and all of this other shit that, you know, Puff is being accused of.
Starting point is 01:16:32 they didn't go through that. So why should they care about who went to it? It didn't affect them. They just want music. I mean, I see 50 shitting on his lawyers, but the fact that they got that arson charge dropped that quickly when Kid Cuddy went on the stand and said, nah, puff burnt my fucking, he blew up my car.
Starting point is 01:16:51 How he got off on that is insane to me. Yeah. So who the fuck knows from here? Also, this is why I hate so much misinformation on the internet. When the raid happened in L.A. and Miami, credible news sources. There was automatic weapons with serial numbers scratched off. When I saw, I was like, oh, Puff going down down.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Like, that's... Yeah. That's not even in the fucking paperwork now. Well, that's why he didn't get bail. It's because he found guns. Why is that not on this case? I'm going to be honest. I haven't been paying attention to this case enough.
Starting point is 01:17:25 It's very confusing. Yeah, like, I haven't been really... I sort of have, and it's still confusing to me. Like, how... Are they going to try that at a separate automatic firearms with scratched off serial numbers in California and, I mean, Florida, if it's scratched off in any state, Texas, Florida, I don't give a fuck in the most gun-happy state. You can't have automatic weapons with serial numbers scratched off. No, definitely. Isn't it like mandatory 20 years?
Starting point is 01:17:50 Federal guidelines, yeah. It's like disassembled AR-15 parts, magazines. So I don't know, man. I give, I never know who to trust. I never know who to trust with anything anymore. That's what good lawyers are for. And as much as we have been very vocal when others weren't about Puff and the nasty shit that he was doing, how we treated Cassie, I'm still on the side of the misinformation is fucked up that they were talking about he was fucking kids.
Starting point is 01:18:16 There's not a single lick of evidence that Puff was fucking children. Can we like stop saying that? Yeah, but that's what happens when these cases like this come down. People start throwing all kinds of shit in the batch in the car. It's like, yeah, kids. you know, it's just weird, man. It's still fuck puff, and I know this is contradictory to the callback of the teacher fucking thing we're talking about. Why do people want entertainers to fuck kids so badly?
Starting point is 01:18:41 I think that they just feel like they are. People were furious when they found out that Jay-Z did in fact not rape a 13-year-old. Furious. But that's because they, you know, again. You want someone to get raped. No, no, they want what they have, the stories that they've created about these people to be true. That's what they want. They wanted it to be true.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Like, oh, see, I told you. I told you they'd be having wild parties where they fuck kids and eat and drink their blood and all. It's just like. I'm sure it happens somewhere, but I just, I've seen no evidence. I'm sure it happens somewhere, but no. Like, no, that's not the case with Jay. I'll say. And before we get to voicemails, I do want to speak on some more fucking idiot internet shit.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Congrats to Nas for the, uh, World Casino Resort putting out the commercial. but the amount of people were like that's how you respond to Jim look what Nas did you think Nas saw Jim Jones say that and then it was like you know what? I'll go get a casino and does someone have a camera? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I'll do a voiceover today. People are, you know people are a little slow. I mean the timing of it couldn't have been any better though I will say that. Oh no, it definitely timed up great. The timing couldn't have been any better like you know, you want to talk about going viral
Starting point is 01:19:57 I mean Nas bought a casino to Queens He's part of the ownership That bought a casino to Queens I believe this is in Albany Oh There's already a casino in Queens Okay because I did see in the commercial
Starting point is 01:20:10 They put up Albany as well So I was And I thought it was just branding with the Queens To forever whatever the fuck it was But He's receiving a little bit of backlash Of course he is Of course you know
Starting point is 01:20:21 Team Nas all fucking day But I'm kind of with some of the backlash, not at Nause for investing in a casino. Gambling is the most lucrative thing right now. It's legal. Like, as a business investor, yes, it makes sense to do casinos. Gambling websites. You even see Drake, who's a billionaire, steak, hove's trying to bring Caesars to New York.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Like, I get it. But the way they frame these fucking trailers is worse than we did with Paloosa of like, wait, This is just a party. I was talking like he was changing the world. Dog, it's gambling. Yeah, but I mean, you know, it's, it is gambling. Queens to the world, dog. It's blackjack.
Starting point is 01:21:09 No, you're right. You acting like he just created subsidized housing in Far Rockaway. No, it's a casino. No, you're right. But, I mean, you know. These commercials are nuts. But coming from where Nas comes from, they never would expect Nause to be able to even sit in the board
Starting point is 01:21:23 and have anything to do with. with opening. No, I get that, but I totally understood, especially the people that don't hold Nause to the regard that we do or, you know, view Nause the way he's been part of our lives for so long, just saw that commercial of like, wait, this voiceover is about a casino? Mm-hmm. What? Well, the backlash, the backlash I've been seeing. Are you bragging about raising a crime rate in a neighborhood? Yeah. The backlash I've been seeing is why are Nause and JZ so, willing and able to invest money into things that are absolutely terrible for their community, such as gambling, such as alcohol, which...
Starting point is 01:22:06 Is it terrible for the community? A lot of niggins from the community are going to be working there. Gambling and alcohol are terrible for our communities. Poppies is terrible for the community. I'm sorry? Poppies is terrible for the community. Yes. Okay, so one doesn't like negate the other.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Like, I get completely what you're trying to say. It's always going to be something terrible for the community. But on the flip side of it, you know how many jobs, a casino, is going to open up for people that live in our communities. You know how many people are going to be able to work at this casino and have a job? So I get it. I get what you're saying. Like, people going
Starting point is 01:22:38 gambling. People going to gamble anyway. You can gamble. I could bet right now that the Yankees won't score six runs tonight on my phone. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, that's not Jay Z's fault. That's not Naz's fault. Like, people are going to gamble no matter what. Gambling has been around forever and it's going to be around forever.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Yes. But there's also, go ahead, Roy. Statistically, the Barclays. They thought the Barclays was a terrible idea. When Jay got behind it is a terrible idea. Look at Rory's like,
Starting point is 01:23:04 it is. It's like it changed. Yes. It did. It was fucking awful. It did. But how many people from Brooklyn also work? That God we have an Applebee's on Flatbush now.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I'm just saying how many people work at Barclays? Well, that Appleby's been there. Yeah. But, but yes, there's plenty of jobs, yes, but it also displaced hundreds of people who had lived there for like their whole entire lives. And it pushed the price up of that entire neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Yeah. Yeah, but I mean there's a job, sure. No control when their landlords were getting offers to just sell their shit. There's always going to be. New landlord come in, they raised the rent to crazy. Like, no, I've been living here for 20 years. Listen, when change happens, that's exactly what happens. Things change.
Starting point is 01:23:41 So I get it. You're right. I'm not saying y'all are wrong, but you can't just look at, oh, people got displaced. Oh, how many people are going to be gambling and losing their money? True. They're going to gamble. If that means the lady that live in your building in the hood, got to get on the bus to go to Atlantic City to gamble.
Starting point is 01:23:57 versus get on a train to go right to Midtown to gamble. Miss Barbara going gamble is what I'm saying. She going to spend that motherfucking Social Security money. She's going to try to flip it on blackjack, whether she got to go to Atlantic City or go to Times Square. People going to gamble. All right. I mean, statistically no matter what,
Starting point is 01:24:15 when a casino enters a city neighborhood, the crime rate statistically goes up. That happens no matter what. Yeah, because I'm broke now. I got to get it. That's going to be a thing regardless, which I mean, I don't know, Times Square being an option right now,
Starting point is 01:24:29 Hell's Kitchen Times Square for the Caesar's Palace one that Jay-Z and them are trying to bring amongst a bunch of Saudi billionaires, I'm sure. They do have regulations, and I only know this because it directly affected my family in Hell's Kitchen, that community. They meet with them and have certain things they have to meet to make sure that they're not displacing a neighborhood now.
Starting point is 01:24:53 There are regulations now, which I do appreciate, and the things you have to do in the community to even bid to do a casino now. Like, they're trying to make it a little bit more. Yeah, I do it. Because we've seen what the fuck it's done to neighborhoods and cities, but you got to understand, fuck the crime shit. Like, imagine you just have your neighborhood
Starting point is 01:25:11 in a casino lands there. Now it's, you live in a tourist attraction, which was once your neighborhood. Like, fuck the crime part. Like, now that, come on. Walking outside to a casino? I listen, I get it. But if we're going to do that,
Starting point is 01:25:26 We got to say the same thing about them opening up to Starbucks on every corner. I don't disagree. Sugar's killing niggas like, how Ray J said, asses are being taken at rates that nobody has ever seen. Like, sugar. The connection. I'm just saying sugar. Where Ray J got that statistic? Listen, man, I don't know where Ray J.
Starting point is 01:25:45 No, he just knows. What's the Ray J census on things? I'm just saying, man, if we're going to say that about a casino, we got to say it about Starbucks. We got to say it about Popeyes. We got to say it about McDonald's. We got to say it about all of this shit. that's giving niggas high blood pressure, heart disease, fucking strokes. It's the same shit.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Pick your poison. And again, this is going to sound like a fucking ad for Rock Nation. I promise you it's the most unbiased thing ever. I do think it's important when people like Jay-Z do bid for that because I do, despite what most people think, I do think Jay-Z cares about the community that if he is going to do a capitalistic move, we know him to be a capitalist, a great businessman, he's also going to make sure that the neighborhood's not completely fucked. And I've seen that firsthand just off the bids with this entire thing.
Starting point is 01:26:26 with Hell's Kitchen. Nas, I think, is one of those people, too, that does care. Yeah, of course, they're capitalists. I'm on the side of believing that. I prefer people like that. I prefer people like that instead of just all the CEOs that they showed in that Nage trailer. Like, all right, maybe somebody that cares about the community is in that boardroom.
Starting point is 01:26:45 You're just going to go up regardless. Because you know what? That's my point. That's my point where they don't need Nause, they don't need J. They don't need none of these. it's going to go up if they wanted to or not. It's going to happen if they wanted to. What I'm saying is, okay, get Jay in there.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Let him kind of like, you'll listen, no, but we can't do that because the community. We can't knock this down. This is a staple in the community. Do this. So just have somebody that represents us and looks like us in those rooms. And to close, right before we get to voicemails. I think they're targeting the wrong guys, though. Like, I think they need someone like WAC 100 in those rooms.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Because if you remember the casino that's already in Queens, they opened a wet willies. And on Pairo, that shit was shut down that day. It went viral on World Star, actually. Oh, yeah. That's a fact. So I get with Naz and Jay, but now, you need to get some gang members in there to calm shit down
Starting point is 01:27:44 because they'll shut this Queens casino down in two seconds. There's history of it. You know, Wad got somebody text messages on the board. Like, what are he doing? I got his text messages from 2003. he don't even like y'all. Wack going to keep a Texan message from a flip phone from 03 for sure. He got him.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Listen, Naz is Nause, but if you don't think the snows on Guy Brewer won't shut down this casino in two seconds? Yeah. Sorry. I'm not mad at it, man. Your commercial. This is going up. I know this one in Albany, but is this going up in Queens?
Starting point is 01:28:16 Okay. Where? Next to the one that's already there? Yeah. It's like a build around it, like a stadium. Okay, to build, okay. by Aqueduct because aren't they shutting down? Listen, too local.
Starting point is 01:28:30 That'll be fire if Nause get like a residency there. Oh, you know it's coming. Keep doing residencies in Vegas. Get a residency right there in Queens. That's see shit like that is what I'm like, okay, I can kind of say if it's going to be a like a stadium there. Like, okay, I can see that type of shit coming out of it. Like, it's always a play, man.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Yeah, no, as if the Belt Parkway is not already a fucking parking lot. Let's add some more casinos there. Yeah, let's do it. But, you know, I think Jay-Z should do a residency for the Super Bowl. A residency for the Super Bowl? Ten-half times in a row. That's crazy. Same set.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I'm going to be parked every time. That's fucking crazy. Oh, my God. A casino and city field? There's already not enough parking for City Field. Jesus. Oh, yeah. I did see the Coney Island one, too.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Oh, man. The homie from here, they're shooting. They're going to be at that crap table all fucking. Jesus. Christ. Fuck it, man. De Maris, they're going to smoke weed. They had to legalizing this.
Starting point is 01:29:32 They had to, you know what I'm saying? They had to make it to where you don't get arrested. They're going to smoke it no matter what. Niggas going to shoot dice, Damaris. Yeah, but there's a such thing as making things too accessible. Too accessible, yes. Yes, things are too accessible. I think things have been too accessible.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Gambling has not been too accessible in New York City. They are making it too accessible. DeMaris, do you know what the hood is going through on a fan duel right now? I do. Do you know the, do you know. Do you know what these little niggas uptown is gambling every week on Fandle? You're more likely to buy liquor. Even if you're an alcoholic, you're more likely to buy liquor if there's one on your corner,
Starting point is 01:30:06 which is why people complain about the amounts of liquor. See, I would put that in effect in the 60s. But DeMaris, what I'm saying is I remember when niggas would cross the bridge. To Jersey, yeah. Just to put a ticket in on their phone. Literally cross the bridge, connect to the fucking towers over there so they can put in a ticket on Fandu and come right back uptown to Harlem. You know the poppy bus
Starting point is 01:30:27 They're gonna gamble no matter what you do. Sunday was just full of everybody from Uptown on the poppy bus going across the GW just to put a ticket in and it come right back across. Can you imagine how many people actually had never even gambled before but the moment it became legal in New York. Suddenly was like, oh, let me try it. And sometimes you don't know that you have a problem
Starting point is 01:30:46 or that you can become addicted to something until you try it for the first time. And some people won't try things for the first time because it isn't accessible to them. Just like if somebody might not have tried crack, but if somebody offers them crack because it's always we just ordered a open to crack store on the corner here try crack now you're fucking addicted
Starting point is 01:31:01 to crack when you would have never tried crack before because it wasn't accessible to you so of course the hardcore we saw Bill Russell kill him at the end of the movie so it is what it is and he made a lot of good points though that there were no oozy's made in all yeah no one in there owned a poppy field see we didn't land on Plymouth Rock DeMaris
Starting point is 01:31:16 Plymouth Rock landed on us see what I'm saying either way niggas gonna gamble niggas gonna drink and niggas going drink sugar. They're going to do either way. It don't matter what you do. They're going to find it.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Niggas travel for food. They don't care. Over here, they got this word. I'm going over there. It don't matter. If you put it on my block, it's just like, all right, now I ain't got to travel that far.
Starting point is 01:31:39 But they're going to get it. It don't matter. And it's, I mean, once the government saw how much we was making, it wasn't the concern for the citizens. It was how do we get in on this? Oh, let's legalize it and take everything over. Let's tax it.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Gambling. Oh, shit. This is what you're making? Let's tax. Say less. Fandle was like, no, you ain't got to come to Jersey no more. It's available everywhere. I'm going to get on one of my dad rant so we can get to voicemails.
Starting point is 01:32:03 But the fact that loan sharking is illegal should tell you everything about the United States government. There you go. That's a great point. That's a great way. Why is it illegal for me to lend somebody money at a certain price point the same way you do with credit cards and your bank? Why is that illegal? I'm not saying harm. Like, I'm not going to hurt them.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Why do I have to go to jail because I lent somebody money on a point system the same way you do, when you force credit cards down my fucking throat. Yeah, let me tell you. I'm going to tell you a funny story real quick. So a couple of days ago, I don't know if you ever heard of the app Swimply. It's like you can rent somebody that has a house, they have like a nice pool. You can rent the pool for the day or whatever. I had no idea.
Starting point is 01:32:41 That was a thing. It's called Swimply, right? Okay. So I'm talking to one of the guys on the app, right? I'm talking to him. And I'm like, I'm like, yo, can I extend it? Because it was like blacked out. like a certain hour was blacked out.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I was like, hey, can I extend it to that hour? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, okay. I was like, yo, but I don't know how to do it on the app. If I'm trying to book it, I was like, you know, like, he's like, yeah, I don't either. So he was like, well, if you book it, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And you do want to extend it?
Starting point is 01:33:12 Like, you know, like, do you have cash? He's like Venmo, Zell, cash app, whatever. How the app, the app, jumps in on the conversation and says, hey, seems like you're trying to make a transaction away from the app. I'm like, what the fuck? TaskRabbit does as being in your business like that too. Airbnb? I mean, there's ways to get around it, especially with Airbnb.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Yo, that was the craziest shit. I was like, like, they don't even want you trying to negotiate. And he owns the house. This is his pool. Well, because what happens a lot that they become responsible for, I'm sure, especially with Airbnb, people do shit outside of the app and get scammed. And now you come into Airbnb. be like Airbnb this person.
Starting point is 01:33:55 No, no, no, no. But I'm talking to the home owner, and he's saying if you have Zell or Venmo, you could just send it to me like that. So now I understand it, but this is his home. This is his house. And I'm just asking because the time was blocked out at a certain time. No, I get why you're doing it. I'm saying while Swimpley is probably doing it because he could probably say,
Starting point is 01:34:13 oh, yeah, just cash at me this and take it. And you ass out. No, no, because they want their temper. Yeah. And also that. It's liability and the temperate cut. They want their cut. But I mean, like with.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I have the same TaskRabbit guy from four apartments ago and I've never used TaskRabbit after that after the first time I was like let me get your number. And he made same rate, he makes more money and it's just easier I hate going through apps to fucking talk to people.
Starting point is 01:34:40 That TaskRabbit shit is crazy though because they get paid hourly this nigga took five hours to drill 12 screws into my ceiling. Bro. I'm looking at him. I'm like, all right, fan. Like, all right, I get it.
Starting point is 01:34:53 You get me started. Milk the clock. I get it. He was holding the fucking ball at half court. He was milking the fucking game clock. I'm like your dog. All right, man. 12 screws in the ceiling.
Starting point is 01:35:01 I need you to put up this rod like four hours for almost five hours. Like, come on, bro. Do you all remember? I used a different guy because my task rabbit guy wasn't available. Do you guys remember we were recorded at my crib on July 4th? Yes. So we were going to have a barbecue after. And I had a grill and I was like, fuck, we have to record.
Starting point is 01:35:20 So I had someone put it together while we were recording. lost track of time. He was up on my roof for like four hours. We have recorded two episodes, I think. And then when I grabbed the directions and everything, this motherfucker just had to put the wheels on it.
Starting point is 01:35:37 The grill was fucking together, do it. Wow. And I wasn't checking because we was recording. Yeah, I'm crying. Free Monday. I didn't open the big ass bottle. We brought it up together before y'all came. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:49 And I was just like, it cool. I went downstairs, went, we finished I went up there Then I looked through the shit After he left I was like Wait did he just put wheels on this bitch
Starting point is 01:35:59 That's it How much he charged you for that Oh he was like 60 hour That's crazy I would I would have rented him again For some other shit And lined him up
Starting point is 01:36:08 So you'd come back We'd jump that nigga in the garage Yo That's hilarious Well I mean did you get your pool time No no no I didn't rent
Starting point is 01:36:18 And I was just asking But the fact that we Was having that conversation And they jumped in Like hey it looks Like, I was like, what though? It just got, I was like, nah. I was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:36:25 No, you just, you just put me on in some shit, though. You definitely just put me on in some shit. I'm about to go crazy. I'm about to rent one for when I'm in Atlanta. Like, I'm looking at this shit now. Yeah, swimpley is the shit. Because you could just rent somebody's pool for the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Do people still, like, drug dealers from Brooklyn still rent houses in Long Island the day to do pool party? I'm going to one soon. I'm going to one soon. Yeah. Those would be the fun of the fun of shit ever because they would destroy the fucking house and then everyone would leave. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:38:26 We had that completely wrong. Yeah, I'm sorry, Bryson. We didn't mention Bryceon. Bryson, you did what you had to do. But a lot of people came out, 50,000 people. 20,000 was the original. 50 broke the record. I like what live golf was doing.
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Starting point is 01:42:29 it's like, what? Today now, obviously, it's like 100%. They believe everything. But at first, it was just like, you got to go get a real job. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. And what I mean by fail is they don't have money to pay for food. They cannot feed their kids.
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Starting point is 01:43:26 And I got a quick question for you guys. I've been talking to this little chick for some time now. We went on two, three days, and I finally went back to her place, and I got the draws, right? And in the middle of us, like, you know, getting it on, I'm hitting it from the back, and I smell something. And it was her kuchi. Her koochee smells terrible. My question to you is, without being disrespectful, how can I tell this woman that her koochee? She smells bad.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Now, during that night, I know you asked yourself, why you didn't stop? I needed to get my return on investments. We went on two, three days. I spent some money. She getting this dick, you know what I'm saying? So I kind of like, you know, fuck my way through the smell. Without, now, my question to you, without being disrespectful, how can I tell this chick that her coochies think? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:15 And I knew something was up because she had so many boxes of like summer Eve. So how can I tell her this? Thank you. Baby D. What's Summer Eve again? Summer's Eve is like feminine wash. But Summer's Eve doesn't mean your vagina stink. Some people use Summer's Eve to,
Starting point is 01:44:32 just because they don't want to use regular soap on their vagina. That's what Summer's Eve is made for. It's not to get rid of a smell. So if you see women with Suffer's Eve, it's just sensitive soap that people use in their vagina areas. Okay. I mean, are we calling Cap out the gate on this? I'm calling so much cap.
Starting point is 01:44:47 It's not even funny. Listen, hypothetically, if this is true, we've all fucked through the smell before. Give her another shot. If it still stink, move on. Not as a grown man, though. That's high-skirts. A fine grown man.
Starting point is 01:45:01 In your late 20s, 30s, you should not be fucking through the smell. No. It happens sometimes. No. Hell no. Fresh off a period. I wouldn't give a fuck. I've had sex with girls.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Fresh of their period, don't smell like nothing. I've had sex with girls on their period in a smoke fun. There you go. But, you know, sometimes everyone's not at their best. Yeah. Well, my job. I'm not going to fuck through it. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Listen. We're not going to act like we don't smell this. No, I'm not doing that. All right, think of it this way. There's been times when I've nutted too quick and prayed that she gave me a second shot. And she did, and I thanked her for it. I thought it was a very adult move. And I show and prove.
Starting point is 01:45:34 So with this, sometimes there's a chemical imbalance. It's a little yeast in there. Sometimes she left the toast in too long. So you go back for a second to see if it's not, if you just had a bad day is what you see. Yeah. All right. I'm not mad. It depends on how bad it is.
Starting point is 01:45:51 If it's not too crazy, because you can kind of differentiate the scent of, you know, bad day. And then like, oh, might be a little bacteria or something going on. It's a different type of smell. So what I'm saying is baby D as a woman. Why me? Well, because he's trying to figure out what's the way to tell a woman that without, you know, coming off disrespectful or trying not to hurt her feelings as much. Like, how does a guy tell a woman like, hey, you know, it's not smelling too fresh down there? This is the last day of your cycle?
Starting point is 01:46:26 You still spotting? No, okay. I can't speak for all women on this. You do, though. Okay, how would you want to hear it? You speak for literally every vagina in the world. She knows. If she still has sex with you, if she still has sex with you and her vagina would stink and she didn't know,
Starting point is 01:46:47 then that means that she's nose blind and that means that. that's a regular smell for her. Because if she didn't say anything, like, oh, you sure, I have BV or you sure, I'm fresh off my period? Or if she didn't give you a pre-warning. Asking if you sure is crazy before. I'm sitting over here. How this motherfucking Chinese algebra?
Starting point is 01:47:03 You ask me if I'm sure. No, I'm 1,000% sure I want that pussy. But if it stink, hell, no, I don't want it. Which is why I was saying. I also feel like that, are you sure is a conversation that you have with someone you're in a relationship with. Because sometimes when you're in a relationship, you're going to get BV and niggas are horny. You're like, all right, I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Like, that makes sense to me. But if this is your first time having sex with someone, you should be in tip-top shape. And if you're not in tip-top shape, most women would not feel comfortable giving their vagina out. If she was comfortable doing that and said nothing to you before or after, like if she was drunk or something like that, then that's how she regularly smells. I don't believe him, though. I think he just...
Starting point is 01:47:41 All right, watch this. Why you don't believe him? Because the way he was talking is just... I think it was cat, but... But we can't say that every man has it ran into some smelling box before. No, for sure. The situation happens a lot. I'm just saying he sounds like, you know.
Starting point is 01:47:57 He sounds gay. He sounds like he don't like women. He sounds like he's about to call her fish. Well, about that sad a gayish. If you were in a little minute, he didn't like, he's called her fish. Sometimes I wonder, like, you have a beautiful mind. I'm trying to figure out how your mind works. No, he was about that had anything to do with me.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Me and Pee's on the same page. He definitely sound like. Because Pee's looking at me like, yeah, like, you know, like, come on. He sounded a little like if you was, if your home boy was the walking here and be talking like him, I would definitely text the marriage like, yo, is he gay? It was his first time trying pussy and he didn't know that's just what pussy smells like, period. No, you know, you know when something they're supposed to smell, right? Like, you know, smells is like, you know, like, that don't smell.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Lord, have mercy. And sometimes guys don't know the difference between her pussy smell like that and her butt smelling like that. That is a fact. Like, they don't, sometimes dudes don't know the difference. It'd be like, yo, that wasn't, that was her butt. That wasn't a, you know what I'm saying? Like it's the same region. It's the same area.
Starting point is 01:48:53 You know what I'm saying? It's like Ukraine and it's like Russian Alaska. It's from the backyard. But it's like, nah, you know when it's butt versus vagina. And when you're playing pickleball sometimes, those smells when you go on. Exactly. They merge. So you know.
Starting point is 01:49:06 You know, you've been outside for some years. You know, man. I have given women VD by going from anal into her vagina right after. That's crazy. Yeah, we should We shouldn't have done it in that order. We should have done it the opposite order. Listen, things you learn as a kid.
Starting point is 01:49:26 You got to grow, man. You got to learn as you get old. You grow. You grow and you learn, man. That's how it goes, man. I mean, I don't want to single out to Barisody, but she's the only woman. All right, I'll ask you because HR am I getting.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Thank you. I am HR, so okay. You've known when you had a little must on the sack. On the sack. Yeah, but my mom. You could feel when you're not at your highest. Yeah, but my must is different. With Summers Eve, we need Summers Adam.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Like sometimes men need to just, you know. Summer's Adam. Just wipe up their balls sometimes. Yeah. Because I've even stopped a chick from going to my ball. Like, hold on. Oh, no, you know. I have been out all goddamn day, miss.
Starting point is 01:50:05 I would never want to do that to your mouth. Yeah, yeah, you know. Like, Damaris said, you know. Like, you know if I just got off a flight, long flight, and I meet up. Head straight off the flight. Yeah, like, it's like. I don't have it like that. It's like, listen, man, like I've been on the flight, sitting down, you know, walking through the airport, got something to eat, might have bus two, three farts.
Starting point is 01:50:24 You know what I mean? Like, I don't think you want to go down there, right? Let me jump in the shower. Let me get right. And then we can get to the proceedings. But, you know, you ain't going to just let a girl go down there. You've been all day on a flight sweats. And you just like, come on, man, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Well, I mean, to close this, there is an actual scientific thing that you can do for her that I learned from weight. Raquan the chef with a woman that was on tour and got onto the Wu-Tang bus and her pussy smelt like shit, they turned the bathtub on real hot and they said sitting there and bake a bit. Yeah, I don't think you should do that. I don't think you should put somebody in cold. No, I just put her in hot water just to see if it would make her pussy smoke better. Just hot water? Sit there and bake a bit.
Starting point is 01:51:10 I can promise you that ain't going to work. Just hot water? No, you need to put some stuff in there. You need some supplements. You need some apple cider vinegar. You need, you know, yeah, just a cap full. Put that in there, you know. Maybe a little bath bomb.
Starting point is 01:51:26 At what point would a woman have some type of self-pride of? Not only, like, running through the Wutan clan, that probably is more members than any rap group of all time. Oh, yeah. But also that, they said, nah, your shit smell. Go sit in the bathtub and you do it. Bitch, go home. Call your father.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Yeah. And I can't do it. As a grown man, I'm not doing it. When was the last time that you fucked through some smelly pussy? It's been a long time, bro. 20 years? Probably.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Maybe a little less than 20. Maybe a little less than 20. But yeah, I can't. I just, because I can't hide it. My face and I'm not as aroused. I'm not as into it no more. I just can't do it, bro. I can never do it.
Starting point is 01:52:15 I smells me and smells are like I smell everything so it's like I can't and then I'm gonna just keep thinking about it while we're trying to have sex nah I can't do it yeah can't do it you have the senses of Helen Keller
Starting point is 01:52:27 like you're all I just just all I can't do it smells bad smells poor hygiene I can't do it bro sorry well yeah man give her another shot don't give her another shot wow
Starting point is 01:52:41 damn baby indeed unless y'all were out unless y'all were out all day like y'all were like leaving the club i can't i can't throw that bill because i've been in that too and women don't smell like nothing yeah but see that's not but that's not every but that's not smelly pussy like that's there's there's a there's a must smell of if you've been out which i've said on record before i don't mind i'm kind of into it that that's not smelly pussy but to some people it is we know what smelly but to some no i get what you say baby d she could have fresh out the
Starting point is 01:53:09 shower you know you know the smell we talk about though where it's like it's like it's like the backup like, yo, like, what is that? There's not even a fan on and that breeze. But to go into what Rory said, some people, this is such an elementary conversation. To go into what Rory said, I know, I know. To Rory said, some men who aren't used to getting pussy pussy can't tell the difference between a pussy that is unhealthy
Starting point is 01:53:34 and a pussy that has been sweating all day. If you're not used to getting pussy, you can't like, oh, her pussy's thing, just quick, because some niggas just really don't get pussy. Like, oh, her pussy's saying, oh, her pussy's saying, all her pussy's saying that's like, this girl's, it's just must. It has a musty smell.
Starting point is 01:53:47 She's been out all day. Yeah, she's been, she got thick thighs. They've been rumming together all day and that's sundress. Yeah. And that's what that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:54 I told you all the story while when I was at the restaurant and one of the girls that worked at the restaurant went in the bathroom and then there was another girl that worked the restaurant behind me that was waiting for the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:54:05 And when the girl came out, I was going to let her go because I'm like, you know, she was like, you know, like, no, you go. dog when I tell you that bathroom was smelling like crab broil
Starting point is 01:54:20 crab broil like like china town last Thursday 115 degree heat like god like it was so bad it was like I remember like I went in and I like I helped I held my breath the whole time
Starting point is 01:54:34 like I pee quick wash my hands and got out and I looked at her and she gave me a look like I guess everybody on the staff knows that that girl don't smell good And she told me straight up, she was like, yo, I just didn't want to go in before you. And you think that that was me smelling like that.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Like, she was like, I'm sorry. I was like, yo. And we had like a little quick little, I was like, yo, that is insane that she smelled like that. Like I'm telling my it was bad, bad. How I got close with one of my home girls that you know in college was my roommate was fucking with this Eastern European like exchange student. And cool, I would leave the room for them to fuck. but I would have to wait like an hour for that shit to air out clear out yeah like I stayed with my home girl in her room yeah but was it her was it like we got cool because I
Starting point is 01:55:21 used to wait no it smelled like just dirty ass pussy like I would have to wait in her room until that shit to clear out yeah but I'm see you different than me because I'm like yo you can't bring that girl over here no one I learned to chant black and miles because I was just trying to buy the time I'm different I'm like you can't don't bring that girl over here no one You shouldn't even be laying down with that girl. She don't smell right. Like, don't do that to you. So it was his dick?
Starting point is 01:55:43 Yeah, no, but that's your man. You can't let him, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't let him go out. Rourmate don't always mean that's your man. Roommate? I mean, I would hope that y'all are cool. Yeah. But, I mean, there's people in jail that stab their bunkeys.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Let's not act like everyone that you sleep in the same room with. Yeah, but that's, that's jail, man. That's different. That don't become, that's not your man's because y'all sleep in the same room. Yeah, but jail is different than if I got to. apartment and I got a roommate. That's different. You didn't go to St. Peter's. Your room,
Starting point is 01:56:12 now, in college, your roommate really don't be your man. But at the end of the day, this is my, this is my home. This is my home, though. And like, if you're not about to have no funky motherfucker up in here, this is my home. My man, Slide was my friend to this day. But I've had roommates in college where I was like,
Starting point is 01:56:27 get this fucking weirdo away from me. Yeah, for sure. When I got the nerdy guy that wouldn't leave his room, all I was thinking to my head was like, damn, last semester I had smelly pussy girl. So I'll take the guy fucking playing Halo. Yeah, absolutely. I knew I was damaged in college because both my, I had two roommates, two female roommates.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Shout out to them because I love them both dearly to the day. They were both versions. And at that time, I was like, really? Like, you don't really meet versions anymore. Like, where do you all like? Are you saying versions or virgins? Virgins. Like, they were virgins, like, both of them.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Mind you, they were, I think at the time, 18 and 19. But it was me. I was like, oh, my, like, you guys are like, like virgins? Like everybody that came to my room I'm like guys like me my roommate They're versions Everybody was like Oh that's how y'all
Starting point is 01:57:12 He's a vegan That's everybody was like wow Like I didn't know you guys still existed It's not It please please if you're 18 and you're a virgin Please stay a virgin for as long as you can It's actually way more normal than the whores In this room I think it is
Starting point is 01:57:27 I know I'm so sorry I'd always lose average nearly at 14 Fuck was I doing We were young It was also when I met when I would meet people in college Like I remember Shout out to my friend Gab. I met Gab and he was, I think, at the time, 22 in college.
Starting point is 01:57:43 And I was a freshman. And I went to school early. So I was like, I got into college. I was like a fresh 17. I had just turned 17. And I was like, you're like, you're like old. Like, what are you like doing here? And like, he was of age at the school.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Stupid. Kids are dumb. Kids are dumb. I ended up graduate in college, I think, at 23 or 24. But I was like, oh my God. Like, why are you here? You're old. And then now look at you.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Same age he was. Yeah. Still a version. A fresh one. What Drea say? Your bodies can be like deleted. It's a fact. She ain't never lie.
Starting point is 01:58:18 That's not a fact. That is a fact. She ain't never lie. I know you got some bodies you don't delete it from your fucking memory bank. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. But I still count it, but I just forgot her, though.
Starting point is 01:58:29 But I still counting. It's crazy. What's your body count? I don't know my body count. I have no. Ho. Slut. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:37 I had some years, baby. I'm not going to lie. I live the life that I'm not. How many you got this year? Like the past year. That's a sick-ass question. How many you got? How many you got?
Starting point is 01:58:48 One. I kick all this shit all. See what I said? I will kick all this year. One, what's up? Y'all was celibate all last year. Y'all don't remember that? Now we don't remember celibate.
Starting point is 01:58:57 You wasn't celibate last year. We caught you lying. You just come in here making up numbers. It was day 175. It was always 87. It was always 87. Day 87. I started counting the months.
Starting point is 01:59:07 I don't even think that. Only 365 days in a year. The funny shit was that I really was celibate. The reason why I kept changing the numbers around is because what I realized. No. What I realized because what I didn't want to happen because there are people who be in my fucking business that listen to this podcast, I didn't want people to know when it ended. So that's why even when it ended, I kept going with the numbers because I didn't want people to know when it ended, put the time together and try to figure out what I was doing that weekend.
Starting point is 01:59:33 No, no, listen, you ain't got a baby deal. I respect game. Yeah. But I really was selling. for over three months. I really was. I respect that. But what I'm saying is I knew at one point when you was telling me you was still celibate that you were lying in my face. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:59:45 And it's all good. Like, I'm not tripping. Listen, we allies. I know what you be doing. I'm wrong. I'm fucking with you. I'm going to die with the lie with you. But you ain't going to get off camera and be still trying to piss the lie to me. I'm like, baby, D. None of this is recording. Cut the shit. You're lying. I appreciate those type of lies
Starting point is 02:00:01 where we all know, we're lying. Like, you know I'm lying to you. I love when we all out here. lying to each other, but we know that we lie. We know we lying. I know what you did last summer. Like, what are you talking about? First of all, it was one person and the total's five.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Yeah, there you go. Every girl. Yeah, every girl. Just like every girl's celebrate when you meet her. Seven years. Sometimes it's five. But now that it's 20 to 25, I got to make a eight. She hasn't had sex in three months.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Every girl you meet. When you meet her, she's celibate. She hasn't had sex in three months. Every girl. Yeah, because three months is kind of like, it could be true. I could see her going three months. But it's also, you know, like, that's the number that every girl lands on three months. It's like, I see.
Starting point is 02:00:42 And that's why I. When I was trying to pitch my three months' niggins name, I'm like, I'm like, you know what? I know it sounds like I'm lying, so I ain't, I'm just, whatever. You don't got to believe me. I don't blame you for not believe in me. Because that is the lie. But you made up. You made up.
Starting point is 02:00:55 You came back. You came back like a nigga that blue was Achilles and came back. Still averaging 30. You had to take a year off. You had to go sit down, chill. You know what I'm saying? But when you got back out there, baby, D. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:01:05 game winners She was joined with a four five God baby D outside she hitting game winners step back side step three ball
Starting point is 02:01:14 she got it all in her package yeah I know burgers and bottles now what the fuck they got to do because man you tried to get
Starting point is 02:01:22 that story off for me like you know I would never I would never but you know what I'm talking you tried to get that off for me I'm like baby D
Starting point is 02:01:31 cut this shit he told my burgers and bottles last year for a reference Yeah, for reference. It was three months ago. For reference, but in real life, I'm talking about burgers and bottles that was just in Mount Vernon. For reference, though, yeah, baby, you're right.
Starting point is 02:01:46 For reference, absolutely. You know what the fuck I got? Josh, what the fuck you laughing at, dog? I mean, you know, Josh doing the bad too. He's like, yo, word. Like, that was kind of crazy. She said. Three months?
Starting point is 02:01:57 Three months. And I'm not asking that question because if you say yesterday, I'm probably still going to beat. That's true. Yeah. I get it I mean we're grown We all you know And come on
Starting point is 02:02:07 I'm safe I say that yo you good That is the universal Like And she's like yeah I bet You guys You guys know how safe I am
Starting point is 02:02:16 I asked the question Yo you good Niggas don't even Ask you good Like before sex Y'all ask after After y'all fuck You straight though right
Starting point is 02:02:22 You're straight though right Yo before we leave I gotta give a shout out Happy birthday Trevor Reza Yeah how old is Treve might be 40 now Yeah damn that's old
Starting point is 02:02:32 Sike Sike sorry Trevor Oh let me see how wishing you're a man And happy birthday at the end of a pod is mad gay. How's that gay? I mean, he's called into the pod before. Like, we've had them all.
Starting point is 02:02:41 40. Yeah, it's 40th birthday today. He turned 40. Shout out to Trev, man. Happy birthday, Treve. Damn, Trev, 40. Remember, when he was 19 whippersnapper in the garden, trying to get Planned Town under bum-ass Larry Brown.
Starting point is 02:02:54 Just running through them holes. Yeah, man. 40. Well, this was fun. There is something I want to talk to you guys about on. Off camera? No, when we get into Patreon about Dawn Stanley, Stanley, we can have that conversation.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Coach Stanley? Yeah. All right. She's okay? She's good, yeah. Oh, all right. I thought you was about to give us some bad. No, about it.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Don't do that. We're not Patreon on the bad news. No. Okay. Shout out to Coach Stanley. Also, shout out to Weezy and Mandy for the release of their book. Yeah, I want to actually go to Barnes & Noble to buy. I was going to buy it on Amazon, but I want to go in the bookstore and like purchase it.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Yeah. I'm going to leave here and go get that. What is it? No holes. No holes barred, a dual manifesto of. Manifesto of. sexual exploration and power. So that is on sale now.
Starting point is 02:03:39 You can go by that. That's incredible. That is incredible. Isn't that? Didn't Hulk Hogan have a movie named after that? No Holes Bard? No, that was when he was fucking his man's wife on camera. Man, Hulk Hogan had a movie.
Starting point is 02:03:50 He wrestled every hole. He wrestled Zeus. He wrestled Zeus in the movie, man. Little Hercules? No. No Hodes Bard. Y'all remember No Hodes Bard? That's a sick title from him.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Well, he wrestled Zeus. Y'all don't remember that? Oh, then, y'all are young. I forget. I'm literally 12. Y'all don't know about Hulk Hogan, man. Y'all wasn't Hulk Hogan fan. I was a Hoke Hogan fan, but I didn't know about it.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Oh, Boisey and Man, there's just no holes. No Holes. Oh, I thought you said no Holes, like the name of this movie. Like, oh, okay, no holes. Like, all holes are available if I'm feeling you like that. Yes. Got you. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:21 We're plugging every hole. Every hole. Bowling Ball and I like it. I'm here for it. I don't want to read. I'm going to purchase it, but I don't want to, like, read freaky tales about it. Well, I don't think they're all freaky tales. I think a lot of it.
Starting point is 02:04:34 is read it have you ever heard their pot they tell you the fucking that's this that's an audio book for them like that's all that is i from what i've heard in the reviews that i've read it's a little bit deeper than just well i mean they're both deep people i didn't think it was just some whole book where they talk about all it's not confession i gotta check it out i got check it out to them that's that's big not everyone can say they put out a book like that's incredible so shout out to them um this is a lot of fun cardie b we apologize did she shout me out on that one too and say fuck yo yo yo yo yo baby i'm I'm cool.
Starting point is 02:05:05 Cut the shit. Like, you just want Cardi to shut up, man. Yo, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just Ginger Cardi. We love you.
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