New Rory & MAL - Episode 385 | 5 Inches In

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

Happy 4th of July, America. We gotta special episode for you. After discussing 4th of July plans, we take a US Citizen Test to see if we're valid Americans, and react to The Ying Yang Twins getting a gig at SeaWorld. Finally, we got Kansas City legend Tech N9ne in studio to talk making it is an independent artist, and his recent album, "5816 Forest". See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know me specifically is free. There's no doubt I love this land. And God bless the USA. Y'all don't feel the same way about the country? God bless the USA. Absolutely. And no place else. No, well, God bless.

No, no, no, no, just us. God bless all of the good-hearted people around the world. The good spirits. The good spirits. Our government over centuries. Not the evil spirits. The good people of America in the world. We looked at the UK and was like, damn, y'all did all this on this little-ass island?

We're about to wreak havoc on the fucking world. that little ass spot just did all that it's the fourth of july we are recording um well before the fourth by the time they hear this it will be the fourth of july and shout out to you if you are listening to a podcast on fourth of july um you're dedicated and you don't go unnoticed thank you for you i was trying to tell all the advertisers nobody would listen to me i was like god let's just take this one off i don't think anyone is going to listen but hey if you're We appreciate you. Hopefully you're going to have a great time with the family.

To celebrate our independence. And that's that's kind of been my thing. If you're in America. You know, everyone around the country just jealous of our freedom. It's just disgusting. I hate the entire rest of the population. Like, why is everyone so jealous of our freedom? Nobody's jealous of our freedom.

Nobody gives a fucking U.S. No, that's why 9-11 happened. They was jealous of our freedom. That's exactly what they want to do. That all haven't happened. Yeah. Jealousy. It was a bunch of Muslims in caves.

They were like, grr, grr. Yeah. Freedom. Exactly. All right, well, what are y'all plans for the fourth? Let's forget about the other hundred countries that have freedom.

Those guys. Gur. Well, anyways, I did the most American thing this week. I gave it and watched Love Island. I'm a Love Island. Oh, Love Island? Yeah. How was it?

I started it. I'm not, I have not completely caught up. I may or may not have DMed one of them and said, hey, you don't deserve this. Which one was it? Which one of the three? Which one you think? Which one you think? Which one you think?

I actually don't watch the show, but I've seen the three black girls going viral. So I'm pretty sure it's the one that looks like a supermodel or Landria. You are mistaken. It's the other one? Which one? Oh, I don't know. I don't want you to show. Which one?

Shelly. Can we pull up Shelly Love Island? I have no idea what you're talking about. It's a cold bitch, man. The chocolate triplets. Here's the thing. I have seen Love Island clips, obviously. You can't miss them.

But I was not fully aware of the show. Episode one, I was like, I wish someone would have warned me before this entire thing. They just be making out with everybody. That's part of the show. I thought it was just a bunch of people, like any other Nick Lachey reality show, a bunch of people go to a fucking really looking for. Like, like, I'm here because finally I'm trying to settle down at 21. Yeah. I've been through so much trauma with my relationships. Like, bitch, you're 18. What are we talking about? I thought it was one of those shows. I didn't know it was a full-blown fuck fest. This is insane. Like, as a society, we need to reevaluate everything.

Oh, I thought about binging this over the 4th of July. Oh, I get why everyone loves it. I'm locked in. While I'm judging it. I'm completely locked in. to the point that once, you know, Love Island was playing in my house, my phone was listening, so I got even more algorithm, and I saw that all these people had cold source. What the fuck, Roy? I am not, I'm not breaking news here.

This is viral. So I'm not caught up, but my entire Instagram feed with Love Island was all these people with cold source. So the people that are on Love Island are now on social media with cold source? No. they're on the show with coal source.

So, each episode is like two hours. This isn't like a 30 minute show. I could not believe I only got through one episode in one day. Like, there are two hour episodes. I found Patient Zero in the first 10 minutes

after seeing all the Colesource shit. It was the white guy. He had one up here and one here. I could see it in 4K. I know you could see it in real life. And they just all making out with each other. And now they all have HSV-1. the entire show is based off

making out with each other with blindfolds and like if that's the person you pick they just swap and spit for two hours a night they all have cold swords I'm disgusted I mean we need to re-eval and first of all

I was talking to somebody who was in the sex world and I was like yeah with y'all though like you have to do that job you have to come with like a STD report like she was like we get tested every single week you have to come with the proper paperwork every last fucking thing they do not take a chance on any of that shit in that world i was like

shouldn't peacock do the same why is the porn world taking care of people better than these people on peacock there's no way i saw homie sores and producers didn't now everybody got cold source uh i got to i got to watch this i didn't know what look at what in you know not because i I didn't know it was that type of shit, like, going on. Yo, and all right, they picked their couples or whatever, and then they blindfold them, and then you get the option. Well, shit, before the blindfold, you get the option to stand on the whole fucking thing with your mate

and someone can come over and make out with your girl or your guy in front of you. And they get to choose if they want to go with that person or the other person. We're doing, is all I'm saying. And that's what everybody's going crazy over this show. This is all I hear. Like all I see on my timeline, all I'm seeing on Instagram is people talking about Love Island. He's not patient zero. It's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, GK looking guy out the gate, I spotted.

I was like, my, I know I have a big TV, but how the fuck she ain't see this? He, she had two of them, too. And they sitting there face to face talking about how he made out with the other chick. And I was like, yo, does anyone not notice? Coal so let me ask you something because I haven't seen it. Does any of the black people have cold source? Oh, yeah. They're all kissing each other.

So I... Because white boys, that's y'all shit. Cold source? Because y'all kiss anybody. Y'all make out soon as you I meet a girl. Well, first of all, they took our swag and monetized it. That's what the show is about. It's like legitimately just making out with strangers and then saying we're a couple now.

It's just Rory in 2014 is Sunday night. Seven years before 2014. Okay. always seven years which would put me where in high school yes same same thing I was at the bar in high school just making out with randoms but yeah this is like

all right I might binge watch this no it's sick I actually cannot wait to get home I might binge it Who's your favorite character so far You hate them all? I DM Shelley and said You don't need to do this Oh alright

Is there someone you want her with Because I see her going back and forth between two guys Here's the thing. I don't like the way Ace played her out the gate. All right, this is my thing, right? So Ace, and I don't short shame because I'm, you know, 5'9 on the best day.

Can you pull up Ace for me, please, Josh? Ace is about 5'3 foot 3. And he just be playing in her bosom because he's not that tall. He can't play in her face because he's not tall enough. I don't like the way

ace be playing with my girl like that. So there's this other tall black guy that was with this girl, right? So when the girls go around and make out with everyone, the other dude held it down and said, just kiss me on the cheek, because you got to kiss. Like, no matter what, the producer say you got to do that. So instead of making out when he's standing next to his new partner, he said, just, just give me one right there. This whole ace just starts tonging the chick down right in front of my girl. my girl she don't know you that's ace

and then okay Ace left the queen for like some basic some basic shit you could find on

Tremont nah don't do that it'd be some bass in Tremont I didn't say there's not I said some basic shit you can find on Tremont Tremont

has the host I'm just saying some basic some basic some basic hoochie this bitch making out everybody a sprung off her kiss and other dudes hoot takes that and then after that they all link after and shelly talking to him like yeah i'll give you another chance if you pick me i'm like damn i almost i almost unsent my dm of like no never mind i can't i can't respect you until you respect yourself um don't say i got to watch this then yeah we're gonna come back and revisit this when we have

mauls breakdown too oh my god No, and I love a short king, but... Facts. But, nah, not Ace. And Ace, yo, by the way, this show has some of the worst tattoos I've ever seen in my fucking life. Can you type of Love Island tattoos? Yo, you really think that there's an article on that that he could just find? There's no way that this is not a thing of some of the worst fucking tattoos.

This patient zero. Oh, he looks... That's COVID-19 in Wuhan right there. Okay. Those are pretty bad tattoos. Zoom in for me, Josh, please. No, one of the black dudes has an ape tattoo that is type in Love Island ape tattoo. Him right there, that guy with a cowboy hat.

Taylor? Zoom in, please. Taylor definitely gay, too. Ape shall not kill ape. It actually looks okay from this angle. When you see that shit head on, that's the worst tattoo I've ever seen in my life. So you, you, some girl got you locked in. You locked in.

No. Oh, you watched it on your own. you just said not you throwing out of Love Island? I did watch it by myself. Oh, okay. I may have been on the phone with somebody that was also watching it like, yo, you see this bullshit? Okay, cool.

I know I wasn't. That's watching it with somebody, though. Exactly. Okay, all right, yeah, all right, cool. Yeah, I was on the phone. Like, nah, I just do it on. And Rory, know he counted down from 10 and started at the same time. For sure.

He did that. Of course you did that. You got to do that. One, two. Are we going on three or after three? Yeah, no, after three. Yeah. Come on.

You do that, too, though, no? Yeah. I'm 15 seconds. I'm 15 seconds in. Wait, pause. Hold on. I got to go to the bathroom. Your shit lagging. You should start lagging. I know the game. I know that long-distance game. First of all, I was I was 10 toes, by the way. Because my peacock account is not mine. My peacock account is Edens.

Which he knows. He gave it to me. Okay. She was like, what's your peacock login? I was like, no, no. The game is to be told not to be sold. I can't give you Edens login. you gotta go find somebody else for that yo that's right and that was when we was on the road

what were we all trying to watch is separately in our hotel and Edin just gave us it was the what's the woman that killed her baby Casey Anthony yeah we were on the road and we were trying to watch the Casey Anthony thing

and Eddn gave me his logging and I said to Ed and I said you know I got this for life now though like I'm not logging out yeah logging out is crazy this is going on all my TVs in my house too when I get home. I got it.

I didn't give it up. Like, she tried everything. That was good. But I, yeah, I couldn't. Come on. I can't do that. You had some pride. I kept some pride.

I had to get my own Hulu account because niggas logged me out. Their Hulu account. That was rough. That was that. Yeah. That was all right, though. What about our plans for the 4th of July? Sorry, I'm more invested than you guys.

I can't wait for you guys to watch. I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it. I think I think I think I think I'm in L.A. right now? I think. Oh, yeah. You're supposed to be going out of town.

Yeah. Okay. I think I'm in Los Angeles. I think I'm flying on 4th of July. Baby D's first year living in Brooklyn on the 4th. And it's going to be actually the first year in about five years that I'm not in Brooklyn on the 4th. I'll be in Atlanta.

Oh. Yeah. How you do once you live there? You're not there no more. You got to. Holly home, but always rapping. You got to go to a red state on further. You have to.

There's nothing more American. There's nothing more American than going to a red state. You fucking pussy's in these blue states on the 4th of fucking. July. Be a fucking patriot for once in your life. I'm going to go to Atlanta. I hit Yomi. The least patriotic states, New Jersey, New York in California.

That checks out. I'll hit Yomi. Yomi's not going to be in Atlanta, unfortunately, so I can't see her. But I am going to see Nadia, me and Nadia, a friend of ours, we're going to go to brunch. And then, not on the fourth of the weekend of the fourth. I'll be there for about four days. And yeah, I actually, I was looking up the swim leaf. that you talked about or swimpley, whatever it is.

And I'm going to rent a pool. I think I'm going to do that for the actual fourth. Oh, those inflation prices on the fourth with that app? Yeah, it's like an extra $200. Remember like when all the Uber drivers conspired to be in the same spot to like boost up the inflation? You know they're doing that with the pools. Oh, yeah, for sure.

But I'm definitely, I'm probably going to do that. Lay about a pool for the fourth, cook a little bit, make some fried catfish. Do some real southern shit. I feel like. Horseback right in two. I'm going to do that. Shit is so cheap in Atlanta. You could probably buy a crib with.

the pool for the price you'd pay to rent it for the day. So yeah. Just buy the house. And you rent it for enough hours. Hell yeah. That's definitely the mortgage. Do you have any plans? Fireworks?

I wanted to go, I wanted to go see the family up in Montreal, but I don't know if that's going to happen. So I'm trying to figure it out, though. You're going to go to Canada? Yeah. On our nation's holiday. What a fucking traitor. Why not?

I hope you're going up there to convince them that they're going to be the 50 first date. Well, no, the jazz fest is ending this week, so I was going to try to catch like the last day. Oh, okay. That makes sense. And just stay up there after the fourth. I'm such an ignorant American that it blew my mind when I found out Canadians didn't celebrate Thanksgiving. And then I thought about it. I was like, I'm very much a redacted word.

Yeah. It's okay. I was like, wait, y'all don't. Well, they have, but it's something like Thanksgiving, they do a boxing day or something like that. Some people celebrate something like it. Something, yeah, something. But that's just to try to, like, capitalize on the American holiday to make money on shit. I asked, I asked Yanni in the studio one year like, yo, what's you doing for Thanksgiving?

He's like, Doug, I'm from Montreal. The fuck you ask? No, I'm not flying back to see my family. Canada Day is July 1st. Okay. But when is Boxing Day? Boxing Day? We don't know shit about these other countries, though.

The day after Christmas? Yeah. We don't know. I know. I know it's one of those holidays. We don't know shit about our country. I guarantee you, nobody could pass. a fucking citizens shit.

Y'all think y'all know about America? Oh, no, I don't... Yeah, I'm a fail. I think I would fail. Ma, you think you could do one? Like, if you needed to become a citizen? Would I pass? Yeah.

Yeah. You're lying like shit. Listen. Pull it up, Josh. Pull up a citizenship test. If we can do that, all right. The way people be talking about immigrants doing it the right way, cool.

With y'all on that. But if I looked at that test, I would just try to, like, hop the fence. There's no way I'm getting a citizen. sending this fucking card off that test. All right, no, Josh actually pulled it up. We are going to try this for real.

Like, I was going to ask stupid questions that I didn't know, but Josh found the actual test to become a citizen of the United States. So I think the best way, because I would steal y'all answer if we went in like a circle. Should we just write it down in our phone? I'm down. I'm down and do that. Okay. So the first one up here is what ocean is on the east coast of the United States?

easy everybody knows that that's because we're over here though oh no i think i could if it's multiple choice you just have to put b on the scantron all the way through that that was this statistic yeah i'm gonna have to read the multiple choices to me but i mean obviously there's only four oceans so never mind but you guys ready i am ready one two three Atlantic ocean Atlantic. Boom. That's easy. Okay.

So far. Stars and fucking stripes, though. So far we're making it. They told I didn't even know about this shit. I'm a citizen, dog. Like, this is. I'm a citizen. Give me my fucking passport.

The House of Representatives has how many voting members? The House of Representatives? I can tell you guys that the Pacific Ocean is next to California. All right. So it's A45, B, 100. C to D 400. The House of Representatives, the House, the House. Okay, but it can't be an even number, though, right?

Because they can't tie, right? Damn, we stupid. I'm so stupid. Are you, y'all ready? I'm gonna go 45. I'm going 845. I'm going 435. I think mall's right.

What's funny is my second guest? It's 435. I knew my mom's right. That's how dumb I am. Yo, P's, give me my passport. You're my bad. Fucking citizen, man. This is how dumb I am.

It was either going to be A or D, which is insane. It was either going to be 45 or 435. Yeah. All right, well, so far, Maw is a true blue patriot. I'm a citizen, man. Okay. All right, next one. We elects a president for how many years.

Come on. Obviously, four. Four. Soon to be A. Soon to be A. This is a true. This is a. trick question it's a trick it was full all the way then it made a turn i don't know they say i can't do it

it was four but i don't know they made a turn some are saying i can do it made a turn all right four let's a being life is hilarious we elect a president for how many years life so so far me name one u.s territory a florida b alaska c hawaii d puerto rico come on don't play with me All right. These actually are a little bit easier than I thought they would be. I'm a citizen, dog. I mean, this one, do we need to go? No. D. Puerto Rico.

Who was the first president? Come on. Give me some. I'm a fucking American. George Washington. Okay. I thought this was going to be harder. Who was the president during the Great Depression and World War II? The great. Donald Trump. No.

Oh. Franklin Roosevelt. Oh. I would have, yeah, I'd have fucked up. Really? Yeah, I suck a shit like this. Wait, who would you have picked out of Thomas Jefferson, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and Dwight? Nah.

Yo, I better never see you drive on the FDR again. That's fucking crazy. I suck with things like this. Like, with time, names, like, I'm not good. Made one right only for United States citizen. Freedom. A, join a political party. B, call senators,

representatives. C. Run for federal office. D. Freedom of religion. Freedom or religion. What the fuck? Freedom of religion. I'm glad that. In this country? Oh, only, only. I got that wrong. I don't even understand the question. So, it's one that's only for us. Like, we're the only ones that have this right. As opposed to who? Any other like? Like immigrants. Immigrants. Immigrants don't have this. Okay. Well, Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim. So run for federal office. I think it would be run for, it will be run for federal office. I read that wrong.

Do we know that it's C, run for federal office? Scroll down, they should tell you. It's run for me. There's definitely see. They see. I mean, shit, Elon, isn't he our president? In the 1900s. The Cold War. Name one more fought by the United States in the

1900s. War of 1812. If you click that, you're just as stupid as my spelling be. Mexican-American War, Civil War, Vietnam War. I'm going to go with... It might be the Vietnam more. It's... It's the Vietnam more.

It's the Vietnam War. Come on, Y'all ain't see Forrest Gump? What are two ways that Americans can participate in their democracy? Drive a car and go to a museum. I need y'all to read the answers out, babe. Purchase a building and go on a trip. Drive in a car and go to a museum. Join a political party and write to a newspaper.

eat at a restaurant and apply for a job. C. Join a political party. All right, well, hold on. Before you click it. Wouldn't it be all of the above? I know, I know what type of test Roar used to take. He used to argue his F.

Facts. But in space camp, I knew with the Scantron, they told me if you don't know the answer, just put B, because statistically on Scantrons, it was usually B. I'm not going to go with Drive a Cardi Musi. but I feel like because I'm a true blue patriot. I think all of these things are participating in our democracy

because no other country you're allowed to just go to a museum. That's only us. But yeah, I'll go with join a political party. Thank you. Come on. Damn, a genius. We got them right here with us. When was the Declaration of Independence adopted?

Damn, they adopted that. Oh, shit. July 4th, 1787, July 4th, 1776. June 6th, 1944, September 11th, 2001 is the darkest. That is fucking, whoever put that as an option, I appreciate your humor, but that was some dark-ass shit. I know they answered this, but. 87. I'm going to go A. I want to go A. It's B for sure.

Which one, which one more, A or B? But D, if you really think about it. Yeah, it went into effect, yeah, it went into effect D. That's when the Patriot Act was we could do whatever the fuck we want. I'm gonna go B. Damn. Give me a passport. I'm not no fucking citizen.

This shit crazy. You be in Mexico too much anyway. You get a password. Don't do that. Wait, that's all it is? Yeah, that's it. That's all it takes to be in American. No, no, no, no.

Because I feel like I've seen on TV, like, isn't it like three branches of government? You got to, like, know a bunch of shit. But that's one of the questions that they could ask. This is a practice test. So that could come up. Do you know what the three branches? the government is you keep fucking asking us. No, that's what I'm saying.

I would fail. I did, uh, executive. Legislative. What's the issue? I was waiting. I was trying to give time. I was about to get the, like, you beat me to the punch. My God.

Um, I'm trying to think of, didn't they make us take like sort of a version of this in middle school and we had to learn about everything? Probably. I remember the chart of the legislative, the judicial shit and everything. I forgot about that. taught in social studies. Looking at that right there, though, a lot of those questions I haven't been asked probably since I was in middle school.

Yeah. And I still remember that shit. That's what's crazy about those questions. Like, you would think that that long ago, you wouldn't even be, like, still holding on, retaining that type of information. But, like, seeing it right there, reading it, I'm like, I used to do this for homework when I was, like, in the sixth grade. In the 80s.

Like, the 90s. Oh, I mean, shit, I'm sorry. I wasn't that far off. born in 1981. It's born in 1900. Speaking of true Americans, true men in America, Nelly tried to tell his girl, I don't change diapers. I'm a man.

I'm a true American man. That's a woman's job. Get back in the kitchen and change them diapers. Nellie's leading the way for American men. Don't change the diapers in the kitchen. I wouldn't even know because I don't even go in the kitchen. I don't even know what goes on in there. Is that what y'all do?

Is that what y'all do? I would never even step foot in the kitchen. Maul, did you see this stuff? Man, I saw the clip. How do you feel? Well, for people who haven't seen the clip, it's basically Nelly and Ashanti on their new show, Nelly is saying that he's not changing diapers.

Like, once the baby is old enough to walk, talk, and go to the bathroom, then he's going to hang with him and the guys. But until then, it's basically on Ashanti. Ashanti was complaining that he sleeps through the baby waking up at night and she's getting him up. And the internet is currently in an uproar. They're saying this is why you don't spend the block

because look how niggas act. Mall. The internet is doing it. exactly what Nassanti wanted them to do. If people think that Nelly does not take care of his baby, doesn't change diapers, they're like, what are we talking about? Like, he's, he's, that's just him talking shit. I don't think any of that is real.

It's a show. I'm jealous that he got that off. Yeah, I mean, you know, but I get it. You think Nellie doesn't take, change diapers? I believe that a lot of reality TV is scripted. I don't think that's scripted. He's not the only person to have said that. He's not the only man to have ever said that.

felt that way. No, I understand that, but I'm saying, do you think Nelly, as many kids as he has, you don't think he's ever changed the diaper? I'm not saying I don't think he's ever changed the diaper. What I do, I believe in what him and Shanty are saying is that he lets her get up in the middle of the night and that he ain't really changing. Like, he's not the primary parent. I fully believe that Ashanti is the primary parent right now.

I'm just going on. Well, I mean, with newborns in general, the woman is that, but you can still change a diaper and put her back to sleep. But I found out last Christmas, my mom. mom and dad my mom said my dad never changed one fucking diaper well you're not looked at him I was like how you got that off yeah your dad was a different type of man that was a real america right there that was a real american man and I think it's it's great that our generation has like a real relationship with our kids and men should be also doing that care providers and all that shit but

I'm jealous man I looked at my dad's I fucking did that yeah what'd you say he didn't give you that gym he didn't give you that gym right how do I how do I Amara has shit in my face before. Like, there was a time when you could just not change your child's diaper? Didn't even see the diapers. Yeah. Yo, that generation, they had it. They ruined the economy, but boy, did they have household to figure it out.

They fucked up. We can't buy a house anymore. No, home was figured out. Listen, man, them boomers, they figured it out. Yeah, absolutely. But now, that's just some sick shit to get off on TV. But baby, do you seem a little bothered by that? Why would?

I ain't, hold on, baby. I ain't bothered. No, not you, but like, but you like, when you hear men say shit. Yeah, I do. I do. Because I, because what's happening is it's trying to be folded into like, like the housewife role. Like, that's, that they're folding that into the housewife role. It's like, no, like, housewife is like cooking and cleaning, like taking care of the kids.

Like, that's, we split net, maybe. Like, that's, we're supposed to. You are the main provider financially, but I know how much those job role on Ashanti tickets cost. She ain't a housewife. Yeah. Yeah. Even if she was. She's bringing home bread.

Even if she wasn't bringing home bread. Okay, yes. The house is clean. Like all of that shit that comes with being a housewife, but nigga, these is your kids. I know housewives. But what I will be, to be fair, we've had this conversation where if one person is working in the household and the other isn't, we should probably let the person who's working get the sleep. That makes sense. But you can help.

You can change your diaper. You can change your child's diaper. and even like shit when kea would say the same thing like you gotta work in the morning like you can't sleep like when amara was crying or anything like that of like hey it's your turn your turn type thing even when keith was like go rest like you're not really catching zes when your baby is crying like just go like your mind that you're still aware what's going on like nobody just be knocked out like at that time so you just didn't get up out the bed that's where i'm thinking it's more performative of that entire scene but i don't know i don't know i

I was having this conversation with Kaz right when Amar was born because, I mean, Kaz has two daughters now, but at that time, he only had one. I was terrified of changing a diaper, not because of like shit, but like I just, you know, only child, I didn't change like my siblings diapers or anything. That's the easiest shit on fucking earth. I was laughing with Kaz on day two.

I was like, this is the hype. Changes the diaper is the easiest fucking, even when Amara is kicking me in the fucking face. It's really not that hard. Yeah. It's not. That's why I think that, Sean, I mean, Nelly was just, just talking.

Putting that on Sean, Paul. No, I was saying Ashanti. Okay. Yeah, I think Nellie was just talking shit. I think that he just said that for the cameras, like, you know, to sound like, yeah, I ain't doing that. I ain't, I'm not changing on diapers. I think, I don't, I don't know Nellie personally, but I'm guessing that was just for

the camera. Then I've seen some rumor on Twitter. This is like really messy shit. I've seen some rumor on Twitter, but they're like, yeah, that's the reason why they broke up because he owed Ashanti a million dollars. and never gave it to her. And she went back to him. And I was like, whoa, hold on.

Now changing diapers is one thing. Borrowing a million dollars for me and not giving it back. It's absolutely fucking crazy. They're saying Nelly borrowed a million dollars from a machine. Back in the day, that's the rumor of why they broke up. I won't confirm or deny that.

It was our media takeout. Oh, all right, baby. Don't bring no media takeout shit in here, please, man. Hold on. It was a lot of media takeout shit in world star hip hop shit that was real. We were talking about World Star Hipop in the other episode. We forgot to bring up at one point,

media takeout was the TMZ of everything. Thank you. Oh, yeah, yeah. They broke the Chris and Rihanna. They're like, at one point, that was a source you trusted. So back in the day. Remember the main page? Yeah.

She was like, that got to be true. Yeah, trying out to end up on media take up. Okay, but like over time? Yeah, over time. Or did Nelly straight up? Because first of all. They said it was over $500,000. If Nellie, all right.

So we rounded to a million. Which camera, camera two. Nelly, I apologize. I was not familiar with your game. Stop. Not only did you ask for a million dollars from your girl at the time. you then didn't pay it back and then you broke up with her

took a break went and did your thing had some kids got her right back didn't pay he didn't even pay the Vig and then told her go change that fucking diaper

Nellie might be the illest of all time if that's true if all of that adds up imagine telling somebody that you owe a million dollars to to go change that fucking diaper You to go. Ashanti might, you know, she love him.

Listen, that's her husband. It's a man. I've never loved somebody that much. If I let you spend the block, if I let you spend the block and get me pregnant, you change your every diaper. That's, we putting that into like spend the block like agreement. In order to come back and revisit this pussy that was once dead to you, like a graveyard, you have to change the diapers.

We're putting that in the contract. Before he beats again? before you be just in case I get pregnant. But at that point, if you're spending a block at that age, if you're spending a block at that age, you know we're about to have a baby. At that age, you spend it a block? Yeah, it's like, what we're doing? What we doing?

Come on, man. Come on, man. Like, this is what it is at this point. It's us. It's us. Like, we're too old for this shit. Like, we ain't got another one that he's left in us. Like, in a minute, if we keep playing this game, we're going to find ourselves by ourselves.

Like, we too old to be out here trying to just. You don't think it's funny to have a pregnancy pack and you already got kids? Absolutely. That's insane. Absolutely. We've talked about the pregnancy pack. Like, I've had that back in the day with girls of like, yo, we ever get to like 35 or whatever and we both single like, fuck it. Let's just do it.

But having a bunch of kids and then spinning the block for a pregnancy pack. Yeah. You got a pack already. Yeah, I ain't had a one I wanted though. They won the one I wanted. Like when you have a, like when niggas have a baby and you're like, when niggas have a baby and you're congratulate them. They'd be like, thank you.

It was supposed to be ours. Yeah. Niggas get that off. Niggas get that off. I know Rory got that off at least once. He definitely did. He definitely did. I would a thousand percent take the allegations of me pissing on women

before I allow y'all to make this true. What? That you never told a girl that? That should be our kid? No. All right. I ain't rolling. All right, man.

It's the fourth of July. We ain't got a lie. It's the fourth of July But you ain't got a lie We the people was a fucking lie Julein It's the fourth of Julein Yeah, Jew lying

Every man is created equally Whatever the fuck They was lying in the whole thing Mm-hmm Like you Like you Just like you So you

So y'all like your asses You all like your asses You really think that I saw a girl Have a baby And I replied with That should have been ours Nah I really saw a girl

Saw you have a baby No no This is what Rory does He paints a very specific thing. I'm not saying that's how you said it. But you've definitely had a girl that you liked or he was in love with and y'all broke

up and she went and had a baby and somewhere around a lot. The only girl I've loved that has had a baby is Kea. All my exes don't have like exes that I was in love with do not have children. But that's not what I'm saying. There's bitches I fucked that I was like, damn she's pregnant now. But like that's not what I'm saying. Now I can't beat.

I'm saying a bitch don't slitting your DMs and said all congratulations. I meant to tell you congratulations on the baby. And you said, thank you. We were supposed to have one. All right. Oh, okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Baby D just did something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% you did that. I don't want to hear that shit. Doug.

I thought the first one was egregious. That's the nastiest thing I've ever heard in my fucking life. You wanted to be the nastiest. You said it while I am. You're not. No, no, no, no. I'm not. I just knew that.

Now we're in the first year of her life. But once you got more comfortable being a dad brown year or two, I wouldn't be surprised if you got it off. That's all I'm saying. So you think I would look at my child who I love and go, nah, you should be a different kid. No, you know, you don't see what he doing right?

No, I need a people. Don't change it. Don't change it. Every man of every color is equal. No, no. Nobody said that you really believe that. A Mara should have been hers saying that the child that you had should have been with her.

Not specifically. Amara should be there. Yeah. Like, we should have had a child. We should have a child. You were supposed to be my first baby mother. Like nobody sent up there saying, oh my God, I regret. I regret having a baby would keep.

No, don't put that on us. We ain't say that. We ain't say that. Y'all think I was running around saying, Yes, we do. I hope he was my first baby. Like, you think my goals was my first baby mother? We never said that.

That's what she just said. Okay, listen to what I'm saying. You definitely have had someone you have dated before, respond to a post or something about your child, a picture of Amara, whatever, whatever conversation goes on, and you've definitely insinuated that, damn, I thought that would have been us. No.

Not even like a tiny bit. And on top of the only place, the only place that I have posted Amara outside of her playing on her DJ thing, which you can't even see her face, is in my close friends. Now, let me stop. I am not suggesting that there's not women and my close friends that I have not slept with.

Oh, I'm about to say. I'm here to tell it true. But not one of them has ever replied on some type of like shit of that should have been art. Like, come on. That would never even happen. I don't believe that.

No, let them. Listen, I ain't going to fight him on. He said what he said. Stop kicking me. He said what he said. I don't want to fight. That's the thing with me, baby. I like to fight.

I'm fighting now. You lying. You're lying. You look at me in my eyes and you're lying. The only girl I could think of that would have the audacity to say that doesn't want kids. There's one girl I could think that would say some shit like that because I know her personality. You keep taking us to a dead end. You reverse.

You're lying. You reverse out of the dead end. I ain't even, I ain't even. I ain't, okay. Have you told a girl yet that you, that Amara need a sister yet? No. But I will get that off one day. he trying to give us a little bone right there he's like nah

but I will get that you got it off already you said that shit well you was fucking thigh in you was five inches in I'm not hold on hold on I didn't do that we was it was fun before everything was fun before now I'm not I am not co-signing it was fun before I'm not I'm not it was fun before I'm just saying maybe they went crazy

She, I had nothing to do with that. That wasn't my energy. That's not what I was going. You can talk about my child's life. You can talk about my child's life. But throwing five inches on it is crazy. I wasn't on that energy. Let me clean it up.

Let me clean it. Let me clean it. Look, look. I'm not saying that you was all the way in. No, no, no. You was just five in. It was a couple inches left, my guy. I wasn't, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I wasn't doing you like that. I was playing just the tip with five, right? Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. You wasn't even all the way. Not my dick is a foot. I don't know. John said five a bet,

Josh, hey. Nah, once I found on this podcast, I want to know less about shoes, motherfugglers was walking around a non-soft. Yeah, nah.

Five of just a tip is nuts. Yeah, I'm cool. I don't want no part of that conversation. My bad, my bad. That's why y'all can't have me on this couch. Okay.

My bad. I can assure you guys I have not said that. I'm not saying that one day maybe I won't say that. Yeah. But no, I have not gotten that off. I have not been participating in those activities at five inches to even do something like that. That's a sick thing. I'm definitely about to get off.

Amara, need a guy, sister. Here's how I know, like, this was fun for content. But even like thinking about my daughter, if I'm about to fuck, to me is absolutely insane. Like, no, we got to get Amara a sip. No. That would be an insane thing to even think when he was hard. Yeah, absolutely. weird. I mean, Drake said Adonis need a sibling.

That sounded great in a rap. Yeah, that's what I mean. He wasn't mid-fuck. I'll get that off at dinner. I don't know. Oh, my God. Y'all different knickers than me. And granted, I have been somebody that is definitely like, told a chick mid-fuck, like,

no, I'm gonna get you pregnant and didn't mean it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You might have meant it in the moment. Oh, I meant it in the moment, for sure. But, no, now that, like, that's fun to get off when you don't have kids. you have a kid and you realize it could happen, like, you shouldn't be playing with that word with sex. At all.

Like, keep that to yourself. Yeah. It was fun when nobody had kids. Now it's like. Yeah. Watch your mouth. You can't say that. Yeah, you can't say that to no woman over 32.

I haven't slept more than three hours of night. Don't even. Put you in that sizzle like that? Just like that. Lock it. I'm ovulating too. Lock it. So me and Kia were having that conversation.

When Amarra was born, we were like, all right, we do want to have more kids. should we just knock it out? Like should we take this four years to just get it out the way instead of, you know, waiting three years and then doing it again. Lord, ain't you happy you ain't do that? Listen, after a few months with a Mar,

he was like, one kid cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we were saying all this shit of like, too, like, nah, maybe we should just take a break like for life. And one, she's great. I don't know if I need a bunch of kids. You got all we need right here

in this one little bundle of joy. That's it. That's all we need. Yo, back to back kids? Then, no. I don't know how. I don't know how women do it. I do not.

I don't get it. Like, damn, you pregnant again? The other one ain't even walking yet. That's the best time, though, because once they're, the first four years going to whoop your ass with them too, but after that, you can be good. You got them out of the way. But the first four years going to whip your ass. Yeah.

So I get why people just try to knock that shit, but I'm cool. financially, sleepwise? Listen, Amara going to carry the legacy. She can't carry your last name, no, you ever thought about that? I mean, I'm carrying my daddy last name, but I'm, you know, they call me. I don't know if Amara going to carry your last name. I wish Amara would. No hyphen either.

If Amara ends up being, you can't say straight. Straight, cisgender. What? If she becomes cisgender. What is that? Oh. Oh, well, you're born to show. But like if she's straight.

Listen, I don't know. All right. If Amar ends up being straight and gets married, like, he's taking her last name. I don't know if that's going to happen. All right. Yeah, I don't know if we're going to see. You see how Nelly putting it down? How would you just take a game from him?

If somebody was to tell you that about their daughter, like the person your date and say, nah, my daughter ain't taking your fucking last name, you bum. Who the fuck wants to be a pharaoh? I'm not, I'm not them and they're not me. Okay. Well, I mean, white bitch would have taken a little. further. Oh, sorry.

You're going to take all five inches this last name. Would you just be... That's the title episode. Five inches. Sorry. Sorry. Peach, Photoshop my dick for the R-word.

But even with kids, like, you've got to fill the time while they grow up of just, like, doing shit. You just got to find random activities throughout the entire day. That's why one is already enough. The fact that I would think SeaWorld would be a good idea to fill the time for Amara and then I find out the Ying Yang Twins is performing. I'm only having one kid, man. Yeah. I saw the Yang Yang Twins at SeaWorld. Listen, you know. I don't. Fuck it, man. No, this is one of those where, like,

we need to go back to the beginning of, like, who is now running, clearly the PR with SeaWorld has not been great. There's a lot of docs. I mean, it's sold out. It's pretty much Rikers Island with an audience. It looked like it sold out. They all there to watch a beautiful, majestic creature in captivity, being stressed out and under anxiety and depressed. Who do you yin-yang twins? No, the people, the people understand.

No, I mean, is the yin-yang twins the thing in captivity? Depressed? That's fucked up. That's why they was whispering so much. Here's my thing. If you're trying to rebrand and make a new image for Seaworld, what landed on

the ying yang twins oh my god wait that's him yeah oh is he okay he looks really okay i knew the ying twins were older but he looks really really old can you imagine trying to take your kids to see shamu may bring out can they bring out and for our next act you would be excited don't do that you're a young millennial i would be hyped but i'd be hype for the wrong reason like this is not what my kids need to see at the time. The entire crowd was screaming, ah, skit, skeet, skeet, skeet, skeet, while Shamu with the Dorfellfin bent over was dying in captivity. I just think that sometimes is good to say, no, I'm cool. Well, Ma, you bought up a union for for rappers. Oh, no, hip-hop rap definitely needs a union for sure.

absolutely to make sure they never have to end up doing shit like this well yeah i mean yeah i'm not asking right questions do you think it was all infi that's sick like what do you think like i don't want a pocket watch like what do we think first of all lifetime passes how did they find the ying yang twins managers email i want to start there how do they figure that out yeah was ying yang twins what number were they on the list as far as performers at sea world and had to yeah who passed like yeah that's what I'm yeah who passed who was like nah we ain't gonna be able to make it and then 15k all in i mean that ain't bad after flights it looks like it's in florida right was this the san diego or florida oh flights because they don't think they live in cali right i'm just gonna go out of a limit

i don't think the yin young twins live in san diego yeah ain't no black people on san diego i'm gonna take a guess i'm gonna take a stab at it only black people in san diego only black people in san diego in military. So, all right, we're going to assume from Atlanta to San Diego. Josh, we just look up price line round trip right now. You got to think they added in one manager. They probably, you know, I fuck with the gang gang gang twins, but I don't know if they're like in demand to be booked. So you know they stunting on at least one of their hoes in Atlanta and was like, yo, come with me to San Diego. I got this little gig. So adding a manager to unsolicited women from, you know, and I'm not. So add in a manager two unsolicited women from Atlanta, them.

I mean, do we think C-World provided the DJ? Or do we think it came with the DJs? Because now we're at five people. Yeah. Cali tax plus whatever that entertainment when you're performing tax. I mean, you know, they might be in the rent. I ain't pocket watching, but what if they gave them a crazy bag? I'm just saying, what if?

I don't think it was over 15K. I just, I don't know. I'm not pocket watching. All right, but what? If they had a crazy bag, why do you think they landed on the Yingang twins? No, that's the first. That's what we need that answer.

Like, who passed on the gig and was like, nah, we ain't been to Meggin and they got to Ying Yang. Or was Ying Yang the first? You never know. You never know. Listen, man, you never know. Ying might have been the first call they made. It was like, yo, we want the Yan.

Yang twins. Can you imagine that Zoom call of all the people that imprison these animals? Because you know they're sick human beings. They get on a Zoom and like, yeah, we got to do the new publicist here. She wants to ramp shit up. And then they do the share screen and show the whisper song video. And they're like, that's it. This is where we're going. That's going to bring the people out. Like remember when we had Michael Jackson singing as a whale was jumping over a fucking bed of rocks to be free. Look at where

right now. Ying Yang. Yeah. Because Michael freed the whales. Ying Yang going to keep them in there. That's where they fucked up. They got Michael Jackson singing to free the whales. We all looked at SeaWorld after that.

Like, yeah, that kid at a point and Michael was singing. These majestic creatures are being imprisoned. They saw that PR and was like, Ying Yang Twins, let's keep them locked up. We're going to whisper all the bad things that we're doing to these whales. Fuck y'all. That was hilarious. I mean, with all that said.

Speaking of five, we do have another number to join in the... Yo! The legendary number. Yes. Legendary. My guy, Tech Nine. This was a big deal for Pige, man. Yeah.

That's one of Pige's favorite rappers, hometown hero. Absolutely. You know, we didn't put a camera on Pige for it, but he did come in with his face painted. You know, I thought he should conduct the interview, but, you know. Yeah. We stepped in, Pige. I hope you think, you know, we did your city proud. Hope we made you proud, Pige.

But, yeah, that was a big thing. And shout out to TEC9. The legend, Tech Nine. Album is, by the time this comes out, it's, it's, it's, already. No, it was great to kick it with with TechNan, man. I enjoyed the conversation. He's a really, really cool person. Anytime we could kick it with legends is dope. So tech was, you know, definitely a legend as far as I'm concerned. So it's always good to, you know, get some gyms and hear their stories. And listen, man, like you said, he's still moving tickets.

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This is a legend. Yes. We have in the home today in the crib. Yes, sir. Today we are joined by the legendary, and I mean that in every sense of the word, if you know anything about this gentleman, then you know exactly what I mean. We are joined by the legendary Kansas City legend. Tech 9.

Yes, sir. Thanks for having me. And I hate using the term like trailblazer and all that type of stuff, but when it comes to the independent world, this is somebody that I've idolized and took notes from from a distance as far as the independent game. We stuck our necks out there early in the game. Yeah. So I say a legend in, I think, changing the entire independent game.

Yeah, man. I mean, once you had record deals, major record deals like myself, my first record deal was with the Jimmy, Jam and Terry Lewis in 93, prospective A&M that didn't go right, 97, Quincy Jones, rest of soul, with Question Warner, that didn't go right, you know what I'm saying? Slow down for a second. You can't just come out the game and say, Jimmy, Jam, Terry Lewis. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, Mug, Mug's called me Michael Jackson, you know what I'm saying?

Like, we, hold on, because these are the, these are the crem della crim, these are the guys that have the soundtrack to our lives and pursue the greatest songs that we've ever. Oh, yeah, it wasn't their fault, though. Jimmy, Jim and Terry Lewis, it was like the people that work for them at the sign at the time, Shannon Hayward. She didn't know what to do with me. Okay. You know what I'm saying? They weren't never there, man. They bigwigs.

Same thing with Quincy. He wasn't never there, you know what I'm saying? But whenever he'd come home to L.A. and we have a meeting at his house in Bel Air, that wasn't a flexing nothing, but that's just what happened. They treat you right? I'm like, nah, I'm trying to make me do popcorn shit,

and he'll fire everybody so they hated us. Okay. But how did that even come together? Because 93, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were still coming off a lot of the new edition stuff. Like, what made them want to go rap at that time? Well, they had a group on the label called Low Key from Kansas City, Missouri,

a R&B group. Okay. And the guy, who was doing music for me, DJ Icy Rock, he was in cahoots with Lance and Proff and all them, the guys in the group. And they were like, man, we really love Tech. We want to shop him to Jimmy and Terry, and they loved

it, and they signed me. That was my first record deal in 93, man. You know what I'm saying? What were those sessions like? Yeah, that's Jimmy Jamming, this is like, you know, back 93, 94, those were if you wanted anybody to be in the studio with the biggest producers in the world. I'm laughing, because

my first meeting with them, they are wild. You know what I'm saying? They're super energetic, like tech, man. You just got to remember. Fat bitches by your records, man. They fix you food. You got to have you a fat bitch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be the intangibles of why producers are so successful. Sometimes not the music is just having the mind to know what you have to focus on. I wonder if they remember that. You know what I remember telling me. I wonder they still feel that way, you know what I'm saying? Were they in the whole get up? Yeah.

The whole get up with the hat and everything. I don't think they had on the glasses. Maybe, maybe. That's wild. Yeah, they had on the hats, brother. Black, yeah. Because they would have like a lot parties where I would perform, you know what I'm saying? Okay. For the industry people that are there out on the A&M lot, you know what I'm saying?

What does that do for a young tech, though, like to be in, you know, the room with these, the guys that we all grew up looking at and watching? And now you're actually there and talking music and in the studio with these guys, these legendary producers. Like, what does that do for you as an artist? Nervous as fuck. but listening to everything. Soaking it up. You know what I'm saying? Soaking it up, man.

You know what I mean? And then Quincy Jones, obviously. I mean, that's... Oh, my goodness. When he told me, he said, Tech, your style reminds me of bebop. I'm like, ah, it's a bit, blah, blah, I'm like, okay, all right, all right, all right.

You know what I mean? And the song that he heard, because his son was doing music for me as well. You know what I'm saying? QD3, doing music for me. Pock. That's how I got... Does Get Lonely 2 with Pock.

You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't know that because it was never released because it had a print sample, you know what I'm saying? But, you recorded at in-studio with Park? No, no, no, no. Okay. We was talking about it before,

because I met Pac in, like, 93 out in L.A., you know what I'm saying? And when I signed with Quincy Jones and started doing music with QD3, he always talked to me about getting on a song with Pock. You know what I'm saying? He died, you know, a little bit afterwards. And QD3 called me and said,

hey, man, you still want to do that song, Pock? I'm like, hell, yeah, send it to me. I did it. That's interesting because I feel like there was always that rumor that Quincy Jones just didn't like Pock in comments. And I know Pock was dating his daughter at the time. Yeah, his daughter.

Yeah. That's good to know that that rumor that's all over YouTube is false of, like, Quincy really hate. He doesn't sign me. I'm just hating pop. You know what I'm saying? Crazy-ass Tech Nine. there either, you know what I'm saying?

And people were working up there at Quest. And it didn't work out. 98, we signed a deal with J-Corps. Interscope. Mm-hmm. It didn't work out. Me and Traff said, fuck that. We're going to show on what strange music is.

You know what I'm saying? And we're 25 years strong with strange music now, man. How does that, because, I mean, anybody that knows Tech Nine knows it. exactly what you did and, you know, independently. Yes. And just, you know, the, the shit that you've been able to accomplish is me and Rory were talking last week, like, yo, we got to just, I want to just talk to him about being on that, the side of independence early on.

Before it was even a thought for most people to go independent and be independent. I had no choice because I had these major deals. And they didn't know what to do with a black dude with red spiked hair. with his face painted, with a bishops robe on, and naked bitch is taking it off after the first song. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck do you do to that? You know what I'm saying?

It's gangster, it's gospel, it's jazzy, it's, you know, it's hip-hop, you know what I'm saying? It's like it's everything, man, you know what I'm saying? So they didn't know what to do. So we had to show them what to do. And now when we're looking back, and we have all these platinum and gold plaques for songs that didn't have radio or video,

Worldwide Choppers is platinum, man. That's crazy. Carol Boo is platinum. No video, no radio. You know what I'm saying? Dysfunctional. You know what I'm saying? Same thing.

Gold album. You know what I'm saying? No video, no radio. And you think about that and it's the fanfare that did it. I mean, with that mentality coming off, Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, right to Quincy Jones. Like, you're checking off legends there. Then it's like, all right, go to Interscope.

Interscope has the machine. That doesn't work out. did you have a blueprint for the independent game or were you just like, no, fuck it. No. Because none of the greatest shit that I'm supposed to like didn't work out with the major. Travis was already a multi-millionaire because he had a furniture works business. You know what I mean? A furniture works like they fix furniture for people.

Like he has a, he had a contract with Sears and, you know. So somebody turns it back into Sears. they'll call his company and he had them all over the U.S., you know what I'm saying? So he'd done well for himself, and he wasn't really into what the music business was about, but he knew that we had something, you know what I mean? And I wouldn't going to stop until I got it to people. Yeah. So when I was out there with Quincy Jones, this is how the whole thing started.

When I was signed to Quincy Jones, they gave us a. they took us to Windswept Pacific. It was like a publishing company. It was a publishing company. And when they asked me what I wanted my name to be for my publishing company, I said EG in Arts music, entertainment group 9 music, you know what I'm saying? But if you read EG in Arts backwards, it's strange. I'm a humongous Doris fan.

You know what I'm saying? Jim Morrison, John Dinsmore, Robbie Krieger, Ray Manzzeric, their fusion of sounds. crazy to me. You know what I'm saying? So when I met Travis, I said, yo, I want to call it strange music, man. But I want it to be, I want the S to be a snake symbolizing medicine. You see it on the rod of esclepias on all the hospitals, you know what I'm saying, medicine, the study of medicine. The snake to be an S snake to represent the medicine. And then the bat is the nocturnal, you know what I'm saying? We navigate, we are the medicine to navigate through the darkness, you know what I'm saying?

And we had to go through different people that do logos to get it right. Get it right. When this Mexican guy got it right, man. You know what I'm saying? Back in the day. Yeah. And now it's everywhere. You know what I'm saying?

It's on people's... I was tattooed on people's forehead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your fans are next level in the most amazing way of what they'll do. I mean, even having, you know, a partner that has... furniture company and money to back it, you could burn up capital really quick. Oh, yeah. Our first tour we went on. We lost 140 or 180,000. And when it's not coming from a major where, yeah, you'll owe it back, but maybe they'll release you and you won't have to owe that debt.

Did you have everything mapped out early on even with having a partner that had the break? Because you could spend that a month. No, we just, we, we, we, uh, I can't remember if we bought on to this tour. We probably did. I don't know if you remember, Richie, but in 2002, the album came out 2001. In 2002, we went on the Sprite Liquid Mix Tour with J-Z, 3-E-11,

N-E-R-D, crazy tour. Huba Stank, the rock band at the time, Napi Roots, Talib Kuali. They said Kanye was on that tour. I didn't see him.

Chris Calico talked to him. He played. him some soul beats that is going to blow up. I didn't see the nigga. I didn't see it. I wish I would have. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if we paid to be on a tour.

Kevin Lyman was throwing it, you know what I'm saying? Spritliquimmyx tour. And motherfuckers was coming out on our set. Jay Z. Nym, they was hearing about me doing this ring. Farrell had me coming out, jumping on lap dance. You know what I'm saying? Like, do the crowd search for me. I'm like, yeah, I got you.

I got you. I got you. You know what I'm saying? It was really good, man. But we was making a lot of notes. around that time. And then right after that, 2003, I went on the gathering of the Juggalo's tour with ICP and Bon Thus in Harmony and Cottonmouth Kings and other folks, you know what I'm saying? And that gained a gang of more fans of Juggalo's on top of the fans that I had from the early days, man, and just

just had been piling on ever since. Was ICP a good representation or blueprint of what you're trying to because they're... We'd never saw it. We'd never seen anything like that. The fandom like that. Also one of the best independent... With tattoos... With tattoos...

I hadn't seen a Tech9 tattoo on my fans before the Juggalo's. I don't know. I could be wrong, but I didn't. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And their merchandise and their stage show, everything was just fucking tip-top, man. You know what I'm saying? So we learned a lot on that tour.

Yeah, I mean, I remember, like, shit, I forgot what year was. I think MTV did some like behind the scene shit with them where they toured their whole complex. Yes, sir. And like there's a radio station. Yes, sir. I was like, this is a kid. I was like this is insane. Yes, sir.

Not realizing once I got older, I was like, oh, that was a full corporation. Yes, sir. These guys were not just artists. This was an entire. They created something very special, man. You know what I'm saying? And they could do it forever if they wanted to. And to think that we'd still.

be doing it, and we've been our 25th year right now, man. That's a testament to great product, to people coming to your show saying, you got to see this motherfucker on stage. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got to see Tech 9. You know what I mean? Tech, you wanted the guys in hip hop and rap that I think you knocked down all stereotypes when

it comes to one longevity. Yes. Because, you know, we say, we like to say we don't, we can't toy rap, hip hop, when artists are in their 50s and things like that or late 40s, it's like it becomes corny or becomes, you have completely dismantled that whole idea or theory that you can't do it because your shows are insane.

Dude, I'm about to be 54 in November. Yeah. And still killing young niggas on stage. Right, right. I'm just talking about, I ain't just talking about, I'm like, you know, I do my little dances and shit here and there, but I'm a gangster, you know what I'm a gangster, you know what I'm going to?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's a jump dance with boogie, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. But it's like, I'm just saying, you know, I'll rap up in that motherfucker, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm saying?

And I got my live band with me now, man, you know, shizzling. And I feel like I'm getting better at everything. You know what I'm saying? Like with my new album, with my, just my new verses I do for my motherfucker. I just did a verse for Graf out here. I don't know if I was supposed to say that Graf, you know what I'm saying? We love graphs or something. You know what I'm saying?

Like me and Conway did one on my last album with Joyner Lucas an X-rated man, you know what I'm saying? I'm just, I'm still in there with them young motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like hip hop is the only genre that gets that shit said. Oh, absolutely. And it's crazy. And that's why I'm saying you're the guy that's like, look at tech.

Like go to a tech show tonight and see what's going on. But when you look at the actual major sellers, like Jay-Z and Eminem and Lil Wayne and come on, my nigger, we up. But we're up there. We're up there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how old Jay Cole is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how old Kendrick is. You know, they younger though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, uh, you younger, look at Jake, look at, look at L. O'KooJ, man. Right. That nigga, right. Found the youth a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's just shit that niggas say, you know, like that's corny if you 50 and rap, nigger, please. Right. I chop motherfuckers damn. I mean, I think hip hop Just because it's so young It's like the youngest genre of music That we haven't been able to see it age The only rappers that we have seen age

Have went into other things Like LL for example Of course, could still do rock the bells tomorrow If he wanted to But he went into acting This is the first time we are seeing How hip hop can actually age And hip hop fans are getting older too

When I'm 50 I want to go I still want to see my favorite rappers When I'm 50 Have you seen Will Smith do Brand new funk motherfucker? That shit still dope Still dope. Still dope. Still dope.

Summertime, still dope. I just think that it's a... Because like where we said, we haven't... Oh, no. I saw Raqim. I saw Raq Kim. I saw Raq Kim like two years ago in KC. Took pictures with him and everything.

Fucking dope. What I saw was dope. Right. You know what I'm saying? And his DJ, DJ tech or whatever, he kind of got a name like me or some technician or something like that. You know what I'm saying? And they gave me shoutouts and shit.

You know what I mean? and it was a great show, man. It was a fucking hip-hop show, man. I mean, listen, the first Jay-Z show at the Barclay Center, Big Daddy Kane opened and was incredible. Still do the splits. Yeah, no, dancers, everything. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Shit, even when they did verses with Karras won in Big Daddy Kade. Like, these guys are performers for real. Like, there's no reason why hip-hop can't age that way with touring, the same way rock does. You see Meli-Mell in this motherfucker? Yeah, yeah. He goes to Roy's the shit.

I think of what it gets M&M. You know what I'm like, damn, Mely Mee. He's going against everybody. Yo, the moment the internet started, Mel and he's like, I'm dissing everybody. Oh my God. He don't get me. Melimel don't give a fuck.

He don't get no fuck. Yeah, he don't care. But I'm saying to that point, man, you know, that's just some shit that niggas has said that, you know. I say that because that was my retort to a lot of shit that people might say to me. And Chris Calico made fun of me, like I always said, that's just some shit, some niggas that said. Yeah, somebody just said it. You know what I said? said it that it's corny to be older.

But there are young guys who can't, one, sell out a show like Techno, can't perform like Tech, definitely can't rap like him. Yeah. And he's in his 50s. Whereas these new 22, 23 years, it's like, is that even rap? Like, I don't even know what that is.

Like, we got to call it, because I'm one of those guys. I think that we have to start calling this something else. Because a lot of this is not rap. They think it's profitable. Let's listen. We've lived to see hip-hop do many things. I was there at the very beginning

when I first heard Blowfly with rap dirty. You know what I'm saying? It was back in the day when we used to buy everything that was hip-hop oriented. Like, we bought Davey D and found out it wasn't really rap. It was singing and shit like that.

You know what I'm saying? Have you sing Davey? You know what I'm saying? We're like, what the fuck is this? But it still got some hip-hop in it. You know what I'm saying? We were buying everything. You know,

ultra-magnetic emcees, you know what I'm saying? Just everything, man, tough crew, everything. MC Shy D, you know what I mean? Like, just all, we've seen hip-hop do everything, you know what I'm saying? It didn't just, it didn't stop with native tongues. But it was fucking amazing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

But it kept going, you know what I'm saying? D-4-L, soldier boy, you know what I'm saying? We all talk shit. If they weren't lyrical, but it's levels to this shit, y'all. We're just all up under the hip hop umbrella, my nigga. Right. You know what I'm saying? So when you listen to, I hear songs from Lil Teca I like, my nigga.

And I'm a lyrical MC. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm a fucking Travis Scott fan. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with young thug. You know what I'm saying? They don't do what I do.

I don't do what they do. Right. But we are. are indeed under the hip hop umbrella and we do different things. And a lot of these niggas sound alike, but at the same time, everybody got their voice. You know what I'm saying? Future got his own voice.

To me, it was similarities with Timmy, Timmy, Timmy, Terna, but not really the same voice. Yeah. You know what I mean? Everybody said it. I got bitches in Atlanta, whatever, I got holes in Atlanta, whatever fucking niggas say, designer.

You know what I'm saying? It was similar. But everybody got their voice. Right. You know, when you hear Travis Scott, when you hear a little Yadi, when you hear Lil Uzi Virt, when you hear, you know, whoever it is, Tentacion, you know what I'm saying? Juice World, rest in peace, rest in peace.

You know what I'm saying? These motherfuckers are just another level up under this umbrella called hip hop. You know what would you call it other than, you know, everybody's singing. It's not R&B. It's R&B, it's like, it's like R&B with some of them. And then it's kind of punk with, you know, XXXTentatioch kind of brought the punk yelling and shit. Fucked up, fucked up. You know what I'm saying?

I got my fucking finger on the pulse, my niggins. And I understand from being a dancer, a pop locker, before I start writing rhymes, when rhythm came rhyme, I can appreciate why, motherfucker. I'll pop, I'll roll. You know what I can appreciate that shit, but still be an intricate MC. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Because I wanted to be a drummer, you know what I'm saying? But I couldn't afford, my family couldn't afford to buy me drums. So I beat on my chest, you know what I'm saying? So with rhythm came rhyme, nigga, I wanted to, when you hear shit like, follow me.

All I run the planet, I run the gammonaut psychology. They can never manage to do damage with no apology. Pick them off the panic. A little minute because I got a befriended. I got a befriended because I'm a noddedie. That's like the bongos.

That's me playing drums with my motherfucking mouth. I used to beatbox too, you know what I'm saying? Before I rapped, for other rappers. So I'm going to be a little bit different with my idea of what's going on now in the mainstream because I'm rooted in dance and drum and everything. And I understand the pulses, even though we see. secretly laugh at a lot of these niggins. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Secretly, because what I say to everybody, be careful what you say on your social media, because we're going to see each other, my name. We're going to see each other. Right. No matter what levels we own. Yeah. Oh, it's going to happen.

We going to see each other. Festivals exist. Yes. You go run into some. Airports exist. Yeah. I remember back in the day, I was in my feelings before I met. before I mastered, I'm still mastering it though.

I'm not going to front and say I got it all the way mastered, but before I mastered emotional control or emotional intelligence, Rakim, Ghostface, and people were on tour, and whoever was booking it in Lawrence, Kansas, called us and said, the tickets are not selling, can we add tech to it? You know what I'm saying? Okay.

They wanted to put me on. on last with these mega motherfuckers. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know if I should go on last. You know, that's how I felt. Yeah. But they said, Raq Kim said, nah, fuck that. I'm not coming to the show if I'm not ending it.

I was heartbroken. Rakem said he's not doing the show if he's not Indian it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was heartbroken because I wanted to meet him back then. Yeah. And I thought it was a jab at me. Okay. Okay, I can see that.

So I did a song like, I got I hit the stage, grab the mic and blow them all away. I blow them all away. And I talk about the run-in we have with Keisha Cole in it, the running with, you know, Rakim. And when I played it for Brother Ali, I said, it's not a disc, man. It's just me expressing my shit, you know what I'm saying? He said, he's going to take that as a disc.

He's going to take that as a disc. And Bugs is behind me like, clobping this out. I said, no, no, no, it's Brother Ali, bro. It's cool. We were at a festival. We were at a festival and I know Brother Ali and I was like, I got this song

and this would sound like and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da and Brother Ali and Raq Kim are like this. And that's why I was talking to him. I was like, I just want to get him on the phone, man, and get understanding, you know what I'm saying? And he was like, he's going to take that as a dish. He's going to take that as a dis.

Yeah. And mugs just like, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. It's not ramped up. It's not that. It's not that. Yeah. I said, get us on the phone. brother Ali, you know what I'm saying? But I think

bumpy knuckles handle it. You know what I'm saying? Freddie Fox. Yeah. That's how deep I'm in, you know what I'm saying? Him and Mugs is like this.

Yeah. I got Freddy Fox on a song, my nigga. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And if you don't know Freddy Fox is one of them, he's one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Very real. Rockin said, man, I ain't tripping on that shit. Yeah. Yeah. So when it came to Kansas City. When he came to Kansas City, I went to the show And I got down there where he was afterwards

and it was love. It was everything. We took pictures, man. It was dope, man. Yeah, sometimes, I mean, you need that. But I say that to say, we're going to see each other, y'all. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to see each other. So, absolutely.

Motherfuckers are saying shit. I see the young motherfuckers talking. Who are some of the younger guys tech that you look at? You like, I like, I like them. I like what they're doing. I like the aesthetic. I like the style. I love their performance.

Like, who are some of the younger artists today that you look at? I like, I like J.I.D. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? man, I owe like Pookie, he sent me a track and I fucking got sick around. He sent it on November 7th, the day before my birthday, November 8th. I forgot what I was doing. I was doing some shows or something.

Around Thanksgiving, when I was going to do it, I got sick. That lasted for a while. I had this cough. It was so fucked up. I never get sick, man. You know what I'm saying? So I couldn't get in the studio. My nose is all fucked.

up. Right after I got better, I did a run like in our region. Being in that van with that coach, I got sick again. I got sick three times on this nicket, man, until it got to January and I missed it. So I owe like Pookie to J.I.D. You know what I said? He sent me a song. I missed it. But just so we know I owe like Pookie, you know what I'm saying? Y'all probably, y'all know who Pookie is? Yeah. Yeah. New Jack City? Okay, okay, okay. I'm just making sure y'all might be young, My dick, I don't know. Y'all look young as fuck. I don't know.

That's definitely. You, if you 54 look younger than me. I don't know about that. Well, that's good. That's good. You know, white people, that age a little different from a second. They age a little like, like a banana. You can be, you can be more than 34.

I just turn 35. See, I'll take it. I'll take it. I just figure somebody that was on the road for 380 days, man. You ain't even near 40. I'm 43. No shit. Yeah.

No, Annie hiding the best hair line of all time. I'll be 40. Yeah. I'll be 44 this year. You see, my hair. Yeah, you can let it go a long time. I was trying to tell. That's all I was trying to tell all the niggins that dyed their hair red nowadays.

Like, Uzi Bird. You're going to pay for it. You're going to pay it later on. I made a post. I said, Lil Yadi. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Lousie Bert.

I forgot who else was in there. I forgot who else was in there. Yeah. I said, this is the result. Yeah. All that dies. I'm dying your motherfucking hair. Yeah.

It's going to leave. We ain't supposed to do that shit. Young thug, too. Wayne? Yeah. Yeah. Wayne's shit holding on. I'm saying this is what happens when we die our motherfucking hair.

And I was getting, that's when I was back doing drugs, ecstasy, shrews, acid, all that kind of shit back in the day. Yeah. Nigger. Yeah. I was destined to lose my shit. So in 2006, I cut that shit off. I had like a fucking Caesar, you know what I'm saying? I was cool.

You know what I said? about the bubble, about to a bubble, you know, no hair, no more, no red hair. That shit started going back. Wayne's an anomaly, though. Then, I was getting braids when the shit was going back, so I looked like a motherfuckin'-on, nigga. You know what I'm saying?

Klingon like my motherfucker. If you see, 09-Tec9, my nigga, I look like a cling-on. I'm like, why these motherfuckers didn't tell me? None of my friends. He was like, yo, what you doing? What you're going to tell Tech?

Yo, that hairstyle looked crazy. Why are you going to say that? My people didn't tell me, y'all motherfuckers ain't right. I did a Michael Jackson, the album cover, on an album called Killer. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I got naturally curly hair and shit. You know what I'm saying? You know, so it's like, oh, they didn't tell me my shit was slanted right here.

You know, my Afro was kind of slanted, and you can see it. If you look at my killer album cover, I'm like this, like Michael. Jackson, but I got on nothing. Josh, pull it up. I'm trying to straight jacket. I got on a straight jacket. They said it's the album you, you know what I'm saying?

That was my only double album, nigga. Yeah. Got my all white jays on. Still got my white jays on. I'm just saying different kind, you know what I'm saying? Got a bitch on my

legs. It painted like a tiger instead of a tiger like he had. You know what I'm saying? But my afro wouldn't all the way afro and my nigga in the back. Yeah.

And I'm like, maybe I was, maybe I was not wanting to accept it. You ain't want to hear nothing? Yeah, but nobody told. Look at that shit. You see how slanted? You see how slanted?

That's the beginning of my shit thinning. Okay. Gotcha. Ah, you see that shit? You see that slant, nigger? That's one of your full fro like Michael Jackson's curl. That's my real hair. It looked like you might have like leaned back on the on a on a chair.

No, nigger. It's thinning right there. You know what I'm saying? So. That's when it started leaving. you. Yeah, it started thinning, Holmes. Okay. I thought that was ten. That was the beginning of the thinning. And the beginning

of the thinning. The beginning of the thinning. So, but my people didn't tell me, you know what I saying my shit was leaving, but as I got it, I started cutting it shorter after that. It was really, and then I went to a Mohawk after there because it was moving all the way back. So I had I turned into a red mohawk and shit.

Everyone was like, damn, he's punk rock tech nine. No, I was trying to hide. I was losing my shit. Josh, focus of cyber shit. What haircut? I forgot the day we, we met, which I know you don't remember, which is fine. I was in your BET Cipher. In the background just nodding my head. Okay.

That foah! That foah! That foah! That's what I'm talking about! You can see through that shit, nigga! You can see through that shit! Look at that shit! Receding on live TV! You see how I was leaving? You see, I got naturally curly hair and shit. I see, I see it curling.

That's the end of my shit right there, nigga. After this, I said, man, fuck this. I was getting Beijing right back then, nigga. I should have got it for this. I was getting Beijing. That shit was running down my face when doing performances. I can't use Beijing no more.

Sorry. You perform as much as you do. There's no way Beijing can work. Fuck no. On the second song you're going to be. Boehawk, Nick, I was holding on. Hold on. To your hair.

Go back to the wide. Look at me holding on for dear life of trying to even catch the rhythm of your flow. What? I was on the one three. I don't know what fucking beat I was on. That's you? That's me in the background.

No shit. What was you doing? back there, you're just going to rap? What's he going to do? So it looked like he was with, they were M.BK. So that's me and the Slow Bucks t-shirt next to Big Crit and J-Rock. Oh, that's you. Yeah, that's you. So Big Cri, without the beard. Yeah, Big Crit being from Mississippi, yes. He didn't come with anybody and everyone like had their crew to fill out the back.

And I was working for Shaw money at the time. And he signed Big Crit. And Shai was like, yo, crit don't have no homeboy. So you just go stand there. I'm like, he's a filling homeboy. Am I the, am I the best representation? That's funny because I was there with J. Rock, Kendrick, M.G.K. We all went to go eat after this. You know what I'm saying? The whole TDE, we all went to go eat with MGK. We all went to an Italian food spot after this. So I was there with everybody. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, credit had no people. So. Damn. And at that point, like, Shaw Money was doing the Slow Bucks thing as well. So you got this t-shirt on. Go plug it. So I just sat there like an idiot trying to bop my head. Through every take. But anything is better than that see-through footh to the head. Yeah.

I'm saying, I was holding on. You see that shit? Yeah. Go back to it, man. Let me see it again. Real rock. Ropping out of there, rocks, you know what I'm saying? Go back to the beginning of my verse, Real Rock.

You can really see it because my head is down. You can see straight. You can see my scout. Yeah. The light was hitting there. Yeah. Look at that shit. Yeah.

Yeah. My people didn't say shit, nigga. They's like, no, you look good. You know what I'm saying? But the baldly looks. It's clean. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm glad my head didn't look stupid up under that all that. Listen, man. I think anything is better than H&M jeans, a white G-Shop, a Slow Bucks T-shirt, and Air Max 97s. I was the epitome of that fucking time. The only person, the only people that talk shit, like, Dad, you wore a polo shirt with a heck nine time. The kids got to kill you. My kids like, Dad.

What the fuck? I'm like, it was a nasty era in fashion. Yeah, man. It was cool, man. I'm saying, I thought I was cool, man. You know what I'm saying? People really love the rap. Oh no.

After this, I turned that into a song. Who do I catch now? Okay. I did three verses though, but after this, I wrote more of the song, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Now, like we brought this video up at our live shows for everyone to clown me, but if you look at this cipher,

this shit is, that's some legendary shit of who is in that that cipher. Like, that's why I don't mind bringing up to clown. I'm like, I was in the background of history. Wasn't, Wasn't B-O-B in this one as well? Yeah, it was B-O-B, MGK, Kendrick, U, Crit. I'd work with all of them.

That's fine. Yep, me and Big Crick got one. It's called My Kid. It's got Ciloh's singing on the hook. Cuck Calhoun is on it. You know what I'm saying? Big Critt did a song for me. A win is a win.

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And without this trouble, I'm going to die. Open your free I-Heart radio app. Search the Cito Show and listen now. I'm talking about my next album, okay, let me talk about my album coming up. 5816. What's 158 16? represent okay 508 16 is where my mom when my mom married abul hasan rassan rassu califa she my christian by devout christian mom married a Muslim when I was 12 years old

he moved us to 58 16 forest okay I'm sure he didn't know it was a blood neighborhood okay hence my red pants yeah you don't say who the fuck wears red pants assumed you were a fan of the chiefs you know see anyway yeah 58 16 forest is where I met all my rogue dog niggas is where I went to school, true school, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, but the album, I call it my audio series with 17 episodes about my life on 58, 16, 4 is from age 12 when she married Babu al-Hassan, Rasul Khalifa, to age 17

where I thought he was being super hard on me, so I ran away from home on a quest to become Tech 9. You know what I'm saying? and I never came back. And I became Tech 9. It wouldn't written in blood. I became Tech 9 like a motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? But these songs are in chronological order from 12 all the way to 17,

all the stories that happened in between. So people are, you know, I put up the track list the other day that I wrote out, you know what I'm saying? And people are we going to have Eminem on it? I'm like, how the fuck is Eminem going to be on my origin story's album? He wasn't on for us. We got to have Ronnie Radke on that. there from product in reverse because we tour, you know what I'm saying?

How the fuck is Ronnie Radke going to be in my origin story? But this is the first, this is the first album I've ever done where it's all verses by me. Okay. But I have hooks by other motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? Little Wayne got a hook on there for Yoda. You know what I'm saying? It made sense.

That's my nigga. You know what I'm saying? I got Kevin Church Johnson on a song called This I Know. I got chemology on one called What I Do. I got Jerry Robinson on one called Sacrifice. You know what I'm saying? It's just all my stories, though. So it's only people on the hooks.

And I do a lot of the hooks as well. You know what I'm saying? So it's an origin story, man. You know what I mean? Why now for the origin story? Well, I didn't have no fucking thoughts of doing it. But my homeboy that gave me my name in 88, Black Walt, you know what I'm saying?

He'd been free from prison for some years. We linked back up, and he said, Tech, man. You know, as Tech 9 fans, I'm going to speak for all of them. We don't want to hear all them motherfucking collaborations. We listen to your verse and we go forward. You know, if you're the last one, we go forward and hear your verse. I'm like, damn, man. He said, you need to do a whole album, just all you.

And I'm like, that'll be boring as fuck, my nigga. So I told Travis the day. next day, I'm in Travis's office, my partner. I say, hey, Black Walt was saying, I need to do an album with no, you know, collaborations, just all me on the verses. And he said, he's right, tech. So, Walt Hickmilt with a producer from Kansas City,

but he resides in the Bay right now. His name is Jay Peasy. I chose 16 beats from Jay Peasy. I started writing the shit. And as I got on to the third song, And I was like, holy fuck, I've never told these stories. I've never told these stories. Maybe I talked about some of them in interviews, but never wrapped the shit in depth of how I wrote my first rhyme.

You know what I'm saying? On the song called Lola. It was a girl named Lola Morris, who I was beatboxing at the time for niggas. You know, she says, Aaron, stop spitting on everybody and won't you write a rap? I'm like, okay. I went home and wrote eight bars, came back and killed everybody. She started my love of lyrics always. That's what I made Lola stand for, love of lyrics always.

What was that process like, I guess, unlocking some of those, or revisiting some of those memories? I found, what's the word I'm looking for? I found resolve with my stepfather, all them years. I've been knowing this for a while, but in the songs, when I started writing the song, the punishment, I had to say in the third verse, how he was trying to make me a stronger man.

I was a spoiled fucking brat at 12 when he married my mom. She did everything for me, my nigga. Even though we didn't have much money, she did what if I needed to be in the talent show in the fourth grade to pop lock. I said, I want to dance to Scorpio by Grandmaster Flash. She got it for me, my nigga. She got me the gloves, the white gloves and the breaking suit, all that shit. She'll work for it and give me that shit, you know what I'm saying? So she did everything for me.

And he was just trying to make me a stronger man and an entrepreneur. And I didn't know it. You know what I'm saying? So I found resolve with these songs. And when I wrote the punishment, I sent it to my brother, Hakeem Hassan. And I said, play it for Hassan, man. And he said, the next day he said, man, he was so happy, man. He said, tell Don't forget to tell Donnie.

I said, thank you. Donnie is my nickname because, you know, my middle name is Dantes. You know what I'm saying? But tell Dany, thank you so much. I never came back. When I left home, I told my mom I was going to my Aunt Zetas for Thanksgiving holiday. You know what I'm saying? School's out.

You know what I'm saying? And she's like, you need all those clothes in the trash bag to go to Zetas. I'm like, yeah, she knew. She kind of had a tear in her eye. I kissed my mama. He was at work. Went down the street. All my friends like, by Donnie, buy Donnie, by Donnie, by Donnie.

You know what I'm saying? I had my cousin pick me up and take me over Aunt Zetas. He called like two nights later when I didn't come back home. I'm like, boy, if you don't get your ass home, I gave my, I gave a phone of my auntie. He ain't never coming back, da, da, da, da, because my Christian family didn't understand the Muslim side that he was, you know, taking me to Juma. And, you know, I'm raised, Christian, you know what I'm saying? My mom married a Muslim. Now I'm studying Islam, you know what I'm saying?

So I'm becoming a cluster fuck on accident, but in a great way. That camera light just went off. What that mean? That means probably switched to another. Yeah, she switched. Okay, okay, okay, okay, sorry. I'm like, I'll tell me that he said, that light just went off.

What does that mean? Because I'm long-winded. Yeah. My fuck's like, we got to get enough. No. You think you could only do this type of album at this age? With the reflecting? I mean, I could have done it back then because the stories were there.

Same, yeah, but different perspective maybe. Black Walt's saying that I was supposed to do. do one with me all the verses. I didn't agree. Yeah. Until I got into this shit and I started getting into the stories and the resolve with my stepfather and all that kind of shit, man. You know, I never came back home.

That probably fucked him up, you know? So playing him the punishment, my brother playing him in the punishment, man, really touched me, man. I'm like, I'm fucking glad I did this fucking record, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I talked shit about it at the beginning. Black Walt was right, you know what I'm saying? So the fans that are expecting choppy-ass,

I'm rapping like a motherfucker, don't get me wrong. I'm rapping like a motherfucker. I can't help it. I'm a drummer. You know what I'm saying? I can't help it. If they're expecting anything other than gangster shit, I'm sorry, because that's where I started.

It's gangster shit. You know, if you like the combo before the storm, and you bought it from Seventh Heaven or whatever, you're going to get that and the Midwest mob beats that's kind of mixed with the Bay back then, E-40-ish, you know, kind of like

Mr. Flamboyant or something, you'll get where we're going. We took it all the way back. I'm on the motherfucking cover with a fucking red candy-stripe troop jacket on, niggie. Oh, true.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. With J's, red and white Jays, naked with my KC hat flipped up like we used to wear like the D boys used to wear I couldn't afford it back then so I put it on my cover that's how I wanted to dress I wanted to dress like the niggas out there yeah I couldn't afford it though my stepfather wasn't having it no you're gonna wear flourisms and slacks yeah tied to school every day I'm like fuck yeah yeah yeah yeah and you got to hide the hair line too what you said I got a high the hair line too no not then they got a lot

of hair it is yeah see it I had to I had to kid play box I had the kid and play box with the Kwamey fucking street, niggins. Come on, baby. Come on baby. All my niggins went to go dance for MC Hammer, Zester, and, you know, fucking Richard White Bear. You know what I'm saying? All these niggas went to go dance for Hammer. Yeah.

Now, I'm under them niggas, like, Imperial Prep, like trying to learn and do the pop shake and all that shit. The hammering is, uh-oh. That's Kansas City shit, nigga. Yeah. I started writing on my rhymes at that same time, nigga. Like, nah. I ain't about to go down there and audition. I ain't as good as you, niggins.

Yeah. I'm good at dancing. I'm in, I mean, I'm in contest and everything. Every since I was in fourth grade, I'm in, I'm in the, the auditorium at, at, at, at, at, at, at, uh, middle school at Bingham, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't rapping, I was dancing. Yeah. Ninth grade. I'm dancing on stage.

Mm-hmm. Did you have a chance to connect with, uh, another Kansas City life, conductor yet? Conductor, we've been talking. Yeah. Conductor Williams. Yeah. Holy fuck. Yeah.

The shit he'd do for Chrysler. What he did for Griselda, man? Yeah. Man, he digs in the crates like a motherfucker in a, in a different way, though. Yeah. Yeah. No, the way he flipped samples is different that I've seen anyone. It's beautiful.

I can't wait to see what we could do. What's that song that Freddie Gibbs did with Alchemist? Microphone. Check one two one. Alfredo? Oh, Alfredo? Did, pray to mecca. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

It's a song on there called God is the greatest or something like that. It's like Sabana La. Microphone check. I don't know if that's how. I don't know if that's how. I pray to mecca. That shit is fucking sinister. Yeah, I know.

That's some shit I would want to do some, I need to do some sinister shit with conductor. Yeah. Nick, I called Freddie Gibbs on that. I'm like, nigger. Yeah. You should have called me for that. He laughed. is a problem.

God damn it. You know, he toured with me too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about some of the younger artists. I feel like I've watched interviews where some of the young legends now, you gave them their first tour. Yeah. How do you even pick that type of talent to bring on tour with? It was West Boy. One of Kendrick's first tour was yours, no?

Yeah. His first tour. Like, how does that even, yeah. Yeah. How do you pick those type of artists? Well, Kendrick was. a result of J. Rock's cousin, MJ getting murdered on our tour. That's why we hadn't done a show in Reno for a long time, man.

You know what I'm saying? And the fucked up thing about it is MJ was a Crip, but I don't know, red J. Rock shirt because he's his hype man. You know what I'm saying? And late night, we partying with bitches on the bus. They on their bus. I'm on my bus partying. 3 o'clock in the morning, he went to get off and call his wife, you know what I'm saying,

away from all the fucking fuckery. Some motherfuckers from the liquor store came over there, saw that red shirt. They had on blue shirts. They said that Cuck Cahoon told us this story. He said, one of them said, you ready to the other ones? And they said, yeah, they try to square up with MJ just for nothing. You know what I'm saying the colors? Cuck Calhoun came around off the bus.

Like, y'all trying to jump on my home boy. What's up, nigga? They just start shooting. hit MJ all down here. You know what I'm saying? He was cool. I talked to him the next day. I just want to celebrate.

Real niggas don't die. You know what I'm singing to him? He's laughing. He's like, yeah, we got to redo that tech when I get out. I'm like, yeah. Blood clots killed him. Yeah. Day later or something like that.

Damn. We've fucked up. So Kendrick had to come out to finish the tour with J-Rock, doing money trees and all that shit. And that's when he gave me to Section 80 shit. You know what I'm saying? I got them on all sixes and sevens, I think. I don't know.

I got them on one of my albums. We did a song called I Love Music with my family, Marcus Jage. Nobody knew who he was. And then a good kid Matt Citi came out. Then we did Fraddle. Boom. You know?

Praddle's platinum, by the way, too. I mean, just. Yes, yes, yes. Listen, listen, me, you ain't got a front. You ain't got a stunt on me, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're aware of your catalog. Did you all?

Talk your shit. I'm glad you're saying that. No, why don't think people realize. They don't. A lot of people don't know. But did you see this, like this for Kendrick early? Like with his skill set? I saw that he had something special.

Yeah. That's why I got him on I Love Music. You know what I'm saying? I saw he had something special. I remember J Rock playing me some black hippie shit on the bus before, you know, MJ was still alive. This early on the tour. And I'm like, I saw, I heard this nigga like, Sam Zaman, real creepy.

I'm like, who's rapping like that? He said, that's KDOT, my nigga. That's KDOT. I was already asking who he was. I mean, a lot of, I feel like OD definitely mirrored some of your style and tone. Who? Kendrick's first, well, not his first mixtape, but his second mixtape overly dedicated. Oh.

That's very, it's very techish on that entire shit. I don't know, man. I don't want to take credit for nothing that man does. Because a lot of people, they always say, like Nardwar said, thank you, Tech Nine, right? I'm like, oh, see, I didn't even know that. You know what I'm saying? Oh, is that like a thing that people are. Because it takes away from what he's done.

Yeah. It takes away everything that he did with black hippie and what he was building in L.A. Before he got with me and he happened to meet Dr. Dre on my tour. So the story is Tech Nine help you meet Dr. Dre. No, nigga Dr. St. was probably listening to Puccia and Petraum, make you feel all right. No, for sure. Just probably listen to all that shit, blah.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like when they say, thank you, Tech. 9 and without tech 9 and he's like yeah thank you tech 9 he's a real nigga man you know what I'm always come to kansas city and give me love on stage me and Chris calico and we tell him tell people we showed them how to be a performer and all that kind of shit and now this nigga can't be touched you know what I'm saying so it's like uh I don't like when people say that he took something from me as you can say that no but my mind you I didn't even know this was a narrative I just yeah it's a narrative I'm overly dedicated is one of my fake from the blog air one of my favorite

Yeah, yeah. I always, I was like, he's like, he's got this weird, it's like, TechNine, Wayne, sort of, and I was trying to figure out like, who this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know that was really a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People say it and I'm like, don't take away that brother shine. And I know for a fact that Dre shit was that's not true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, man, a lot of people would say of those similarities, but he's his own monster, you know what I'm saying? And I'm my own monster, definitely. Oh, absolutely. Let's talk about these tours that Tech is currently on. How many we got? Let's go down the list.

I start with falling in reverse early August. Okay. Only do 13 shows. Only 13. With them. Yes. You know what I'm saying? That's a very low clip.

Slaughter and it's falling reverse, slaughter to prevail, and some more rock metal acts. You know what I'm saying? We kill that scene as well. You know what I'm saying? There's no barriers when it come to me. Nick, I got a song with Gary Clark Jr. Right. They're on some blues shit.

Right. You know what I'm saying? That's why my next record is going to be called decorated because I'm a decorated MC, you know what I'm saying? From all genres, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. I'm talking about Tupac, Ice Cube, MC Wren, you know what I'm saying? These are all the people I work with spice wine, E-40, you know what I'm saying?

It just keeps going, you know what I'm saying? Whiskly from, Wayne, M&M, Tendrick Gilmore, Jay Rock. Yeah. I know I'm forgetting somebody, you know what I'm saying? But on the metal side, it's slip-knotted, just come over down, and corn. Yeah. Just some, you may have heard of them. The doors, you know, I did a song with the remaining

minimums of the doors, dick. Just some, you know what I'm saying? Some garage band shit. On the R&B tip, I got a weed song with Boys the Man, Buddha. Me and Marsha Ambrosius got anywhere. He was on the beat. Jimmy, Jamie, Terry Lewis, and Winsey Jones.

Give me, Jamie Lewis. Yeah. I'm decorated as fuck. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. So I'm saying I can do the metal tour. I remember when I came to L.A.

to open up for Kanye, Nipsey was still alive. I met Joy Badass backstage. Nipsey was on stage when I was about, I went on right after Nipsey, you know what I'm saying? It was cool backstage. You know what I'm saying? The next day I had to fly to Mexico City to perform at Knott Fest with Slipknot. You know what I'm saying?

This is what I created for myself by breaking down barriers because I feel like men created barriers with culture, it happens. Black folks listen to this, white folks listen to that, but I always felt like beautiful music is beautiful music. You can't tell me you don't like Toto,

my nigga, my nigga, porgy, put and pie. Not just the urban soundish, too. I'm talking about Rosanna, Rosanna, all that shit. Hold that line, you know what I'm saying? It's just beautiful music to me is beautiful music

and I fuse all that shit together and it shows in my discography. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm able to do falling in reverse with Slaughter to Prevail, and then go on with, after that, I go right into the tour with Bone Thugs and Harmony and 3-6 Mafia and DJ Quick.

How do you prepare for those different type of tours? Because the audience may be different off the boundaries that you're talking about, do approach it differently? I fucking do Tech Nine. I got one show I just put together. I just did it. I just tried it out on Saturday. I've headlined Boulevardia at home.

You know what I'm saying? Boulevard Brewing Company, they have this, festival every year. It's a 10-year anniversary. They wanted me to, you know, do it. Try this show out. Oh, man, it's so fucking dope. I'm going to do the same show.

It's just I have to cut it down for the, it's an hour and 25 maybe what I did. So it's probably like an hour and 30 with talking or more. Hour 40, it's a lot of fucking time on stage to be Tech 9. But I have the discography to fill it. And it's never, you're never, because I'm three motherfuckers during the whole show. I'm the king.

I come out to the king, you know what I'm saying? I start with no reason. You know, oh, damn, I'm telling people. I've started with no reason, you know what I'm saying? The song that MGK and Eminem fell out on, you know what I'm saying? And he's a mental giant, you know, king shit, you know what I'm saying? Worldwide choppers, all the choppers together, all kind of shit. I'm doing all that shit on the metal tour and on the motherfucking.

I got my band with me, so all the shit sounds live as fuck. You know what I mean? But I do, I always, I've been doing hood go crazy at Not Fest, my nigga. Yeah. I'm me. Right. I can't, I have songs that have the rock energy, you know, straight out the gate with system of a down.

I'm about Serge Tankian, you know, saying, you're a liar, super rock influenced, but Riotmaker and Planet Rock and Who Go Crazy and Everybody, but me, man, these are, these are, these are urban songs, man, on metal tours, and they go up. When I get to the G-Zone, because I'm the king, the clown, I come out as the king, the clown, I got this fucking $9,000 mask with a glowing, fucking nose. It goes back to my song, the red nose, the industry treat me like I got a red nose. Nobody want to let me in it. I don't invite me to motherfucking me to motherfuckin'all fucking BETT Awards, none of that shit.

M.T. Award, they don't invite me, you know what I'm saying? So I always felt like I had a red nose. I got that motherfucking red nose on for the clown. Then I come out as the G and do all the motherfucking hits. You know what I'm saying? On these shows, I'm doing it. on the bone tour. I'm doing it on the metal tour

and I just did it on Saturday. Would you like to see more of us like from hip hop, more rappers, like go into that world of rock and do those festivals and do those shows? If it fits,

you can't just front. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Motherfuckers know my pedigree. They know that I've been doing that since the early beginnings of tech nine. And you can move tickets. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's the main shit. Well, they be all right. We know he could.

This amount of people. You said they called Tech. Like, listen, tickets were selling. Call Tech. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They know who was selling. I caught that, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You said that. You said it. I caught it. That's what I'm just going on. Even though, what was the, what was the early Wu Tang tour?

What rock group was it? I forgot who it was. It wasn't corn. That, that they went on tour with. that was like the first real rock you know ain't that wasn't that system over down the shame on a nigga of goddraway i'm game of a man yeah but i mean i fuck your eyes up but i mean that was because wutan move ticket they had that cold family like when you got a bird hill go on yeah not fess as well you know what every rapper ice cube you done it you know what i'm saying ice t still

does it with uh body count it's but it's few and far in between with the rock and rap i know it's it's tough i know but then motherfuckers are rapping yeah cori taylor rapping on Slipknot, nigga, you know what I'm saying? Ronnie Racky rapping his ass on. Kim Dracula, rapping his ass off. That's what when people were kind of like, when Jay did the,

with Lincoln Park, when they did that whole thing, people were kind of like, what is that? I was like, bro, people had been. Pop version of it. Yeah, but the fact that Jay stepped into that world,

people wasn't expecting that. For sure. You know what I mean? Like, yo, him in Lincoln Park, people was like, what is he doing? Like, he's trying to go to. And it's like, no,

but like you said, beautiful music. Beautiful music should be beautiful music. Exactly. People will put you know, they will put a barrier between us, you know, and say, nah, you go over there, nigga, you won't be able to come back over here. OG Mugs said, you're going to be the first rapper to cross over the black folks.

You know what I'm saying? You remember he? Yeah. Yeah. I did. You're talking about tech nine streets from the streets. Right. Like, what are we talking about?

That's what I'm saying? Yeah. But the energy of Einstein and the energy of psycho bitch and the energy of all those early songs, motherfuckers like, damn, this kind of got like a loud energy. As opposed to, have you ever met a nigger who was pie sprung? It's a lot of slinky niggas where I come from. There's another missile catcher just like him. His name is Mitchell.

Mitchell Bay. If a Mitch is in your mix, you best to check one. That shit blew up in Kansas City, you know what I'm saying? Or let's get fucked up. Let's get hot, let's get drunk, let's get fucked up. We got that weed that ain't no punk. Me and the Rogue Dogs, that's that urban shit that niggas was really taken to. But I was doing Einstein and Cycle Bitch and My Own Hell the same time I was doing,

Make that ass hop. Don't stop down south yonks make planet rock. Midwest, too much ass in one room. Right-tada, ta-tada, ta-tada, ta-tada-tada-tada. Boom, make that ass hop. Yeah. Planned a rock blew the fuck up. Yeah.

But I'm doing this crazy shit at the same time. Coming from my nut house crew, I brought that energy over here too with the urban shit. You know, I was doing that shit early on, man. It's just all of it was mixed together. But our people would be like, nah, I'm ain't doing that shit for the white folks. Yeah. Yeah. No, nigger. I'm doing what I know.

What I feel. I feel music, period. I'm not trying to pander to white motherfucking. I didn't know what kind of fans I was going to have. I started in the hood. The hood embraced me. Right. When they saw Angelic come out with me as the angel and on the back,

I got the devil suit on. I was trying to tell, myfuck, I wasn't a devil worshiper. I was trying to tell motherfuck as an angelic, you see the angel. He's on, you know, on the cover of Angelic. Can you pull it up? You know what I'm saying? The cover of Angelic. I'm on the front of that motherfucker,

like they got nails in my head. I'm nailed to the cross for real. You know what I'm saying? I got the steak in my neck as an angel because I was trying to tell a story of a fallen angel, which was me. I was raised in the church. Okay.

As a Christian, my mom married a Muslim. I studied Islam. I started reading other religions because all this shit was damn there sounding alike. You know what I'm saying? When reading the Quran or, you know, different things. But, you know, I start getting into reading about Confucianism and Shintoism and Taoism and Judaism and Judaism and, you know, Dionetics, whatever it is. You know what I'm saying?

Trying to find it. So the story was about an angel trying to find its way and then falling into fame and liquor. and it's a picture on there where I'm falling through like a fucking hole of demons. And when I land in that motherfucker, it's naked demon bitches, titties out with liquor and all the kind of shit. Titties out. It's always deep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you find on this path as an angel.

Come on, man. I got angel on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got an angel on me. My mama called me angel baby, you know what I'm saying? The angel's on me forever. You know what I'm saying? So I know this about myself.

I'm raising in Christ. So they tell me, if you accept all that shit, Dantes, you going to go to hell. So I said if you accept the liquor and the drugs and the bitches, the result is the beast. Beast. So at the time when we were doing the album cover, Screaming Matt George, he was an artist that does all the. the crazy shit. He said, hey, tech, I did, Tales from the Hood, the devil suit. I created it.

I have that. Would you want to be the beast in that? I'm like, fuck yeah. We got the spider legs and shit. So I'm on the back, like, as the beast. Not a devil worshiper. I'm just telling them this is what you get. Yeah.

Muffugger said, fuck that shit. Yeah, you know, we don't understand. People, they're not picking up on all of that. And then when you turn on the record, the first thing you hear is one for the devil. on tormented. They didn't hear two for my god after that. Right.

Father, please forgive me while I rock this bra. Tormented. I've been loving Kucci since it was invented. Ask me, does it get me? Yes, it does. Feels lovely.

I'm talking niggins shit on that. Rock and roll, nigga. Yeah, right, right. I don't want to ever let it go. Beat it down like I'm with it bow. Yeah. We can do it faster even slow. Yeah, yeah.

Up on the bed, up on the flow. Yeah. Pussy Koochie, Nani on my mind? Yeah. Hit it from my mind. front or from behind. I'm honey, baby, don't you waste my time? Psycho-Avon, scepto-tack-9?

This is me talking about my fucking rage with pussy. Yeah, but you know, niggas stopped that one for the devil. They stopped that one for the devil. They stopped that one for the devil. That's what we stopped. What about two for my God, nigga? I didn't say one for my devil.

I said one for the devil, two for my God, meaning I'm more good. Right, right, right. One for the devil, fuck that, nigga. It stops right there with us. Because when you can understand Playboy Cardi, that's the shit he on it. Like, even the entire aesthetic. Did you hear what he said?

He said, Tech 9 is the pioneer of what I'm doing right now. He's not talking about music. He's talking about imagery. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Yeah. 5816, June 27th?

June 27th, man. Tech, I got to catch you on one of these tours, man. The Duggish Ruggish Mafia. I mean, seeing you, Bone Thugs and Harmony, one of my favorite Goose 6 as well. Tech, one of my favorite. Like just seeing you perform your energy. I think we might be coming here, man. I got to look at the dates.

Well, if y'all come to New York, I'm definitely- going to-Henhan. Yeah. The last time I saw you was when you had Florida House on tour with you. That was that long ago. So I got to see tech now. That was a minute.

Yeah, I got to see tech now. I got to catch you with. Any New York on there? Jersey, Home Dell, New Jersey. Oh, yeah. That's a quick drop. June 6. It's like hours.

Some change. Shit. Camden. I ain't a lot. Virginia Beach might be cool, though. Yeah. Go down to VA? Yeah, man.

We got a check out there. No, that's Virginia, though. That's, you know. You got your eye on that for some. I love Charlotte. I love Charlotte, too. They used to have wet willies around the corner from my venue. When I used to drink, I used to love that shit.

It's like, we're going to Charlotte, wet willies. Yeah, let's stay over there. They open one in Queens for one day and they shut it down. Yeah, got to shut it down. Got a shit. What did you say? They opened a wet willies in Queens for one day. Oh, fuck you.

And the bloods shut that down. Of course. You could go and see the YouTube video. That shit went viral. Really? Yes. We was like, yeah, we got a wet willies now.

It's over. Grand opening and grand closing. Well, Willys is just like Pat Tuesdays. Yeah, no, the same shit. Same exact shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 58 16th, 508, 16th.

Yes, sir. June 27th. Yes, sir. I'm looking forward to catching you on one of these shows, on one of these tours, because we got to give you your flowers, man, to be doing what you're doing as long as you've been doing it. At the level you've been doing it,

moving the tickets. Totally. That you've been moving. Yes, sir. We got to salute you any chance we get. So I'm definitely catching. I'm definitely catching. Honored to be on y'all show, man.

Thank you. I appreciate. I'm honored to have you here. This is like, I mean, again, you thought I was younger than I am. Is Joe Buddy going to talk shit to me because I'm on this motherfucker? We don't care about that. Maybe. I didn't know.

I had to say it. I had to say it. You know, that's my niggas. Yeah, yeah. No, I get it. I was slaughterhouse. I was there for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

During that time. Tell him you took him on tour. Say that again? Yeah. Yeah. I did. I did, I did, I did. This is Joe on the tour.

I got to say this before. We pull up at the venue. He's always out there smoking a cigarette. I'm about to go to the bathroom in the venue. He said, so you go make the bitches show the tities of what, nigga? Because I got a song called, ooh, ariola. He's like, so you're going to make the bitches show the tities of what,

niggins? I'll be side stage for that one. You know I'm going to make the bids show the tities. What the fuck are you asking me for? with making shit tini's absolutely 5816 you tech I'm looking forward to this album the origin story

as you say it is so I get the kind of here you know the beginning of Tech 9 and how you became the legend the origin man I can't wait for you out it out man it's fucking beautiful no I'm checking it out

if you don't like Midwest mob music you're gonna be like I don't know no no I listen to Tech 9 listen I just feel like Taylor Swift should have checked in with him but they're updated the beats are updated but it still feels like that 90s okay you know what I'm saying

And it's fucking beautiful. J. Peasy did a wonderful job, man. I love that. Yeah. Definitely looking forward for that one. Taylor, you oh my God, feature. You can't be part of the Kansas City community and not give tech with Taylor Swift.

Oh, Taylor Swift. I just feel like they got to check in with you. Yeah, Kelsey my nigga, man. Yeah, no, for sure. That's the legend. Everybody, like, you need to do a Red Kingdom remix with Taylor. I'm like, he's not from Kansas City. He's just in love with a nigga.

Who's also not from there. Right, right, right, right. Ain't they from the East Coast or some shit like that? They're from Ohio. Okay, okay. Yeah, I think. Travis from Cleveland, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Either way, Taylor, you got a check in with tech. Definitely got a check in with tech. That's funny. That's funny. That's tech nine. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace.

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