New Rory & MAL - Episode 386 | What Did We Miss?

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

The holiday weekend is over and we got a lot to talk about. Iceman dropped a bomb with "What Did I Miss?, and for the most part we were feelin' it (13:11). JID got a verse from Eminem and said "nah"...not sure if anyone has done that before (30:15). Rory & Mal think Skepta really doesn't want this smoke from the USA (44:58). A bunch of losers got together outside the courthouse to support Diddy for clout (51:15). Plus, Mal was right about his Cardi B-Stefon Diggs prediction (58:14), Demaris is curious if Carnival's new rules are anti-black (67:23), and our voicemail segment has us tellin' a few hard truths to our callers (73:00) #volume *TIMESTAMPS MAY VARY DUE TO ADVERTISEMENTS See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So good evening, good afternoon. Depending on where you are. Good morning. Depending on where you are. Everything. I was in a good mood and then de Maris informed me that pink is just lemonade that's pink and I think that's a lie. Stupid.

Pink lemonade tastes different than lemonade and no one is going to ever convince me other words. Yeah, they put a little different type of corn syrup in it, but it's not like, it's not a flavor. It's definitely its own flavor. This conversation stemmed from Peach so excitedly. asking me, hey, Damaris, what's your favorite flavor of, like, anything? Like, when it comes to candy or juice or anything, I'm like, it's watermelon. He goes, mine is pink lemonade. And I'm like, well, pink lemonade isn't a flavor. Like, depending on, like, what flavor is the pink? Strawberry lemonade, sure. Cranberry lemonade, sure. But pink lemonade is not a fucking

food. But even Wikipedia, like, I honestly don't care what the facts are, because I'm, you're never going to change my mind on this. But it does say pink lemonade is created by adding additional fruit juices, flavors, and food coloring to the recipe. So, It's a different drink. That's just the chemical to trip your brain. Yeah. To thinking that there's something in there. It's a great trick because pink lemonade is, it's probably top five for me when it comes

to juices. One a little bit better for you. It's not a good juice. Yeah. Where's the juice? I love pink lemonade. Why not strawberry lemonade? I like raspberry lemonade way better than strawberry.

I think raspberry lemonade is probably the best lemonade. Raspberry lemonade might be one or two for me. Pink lemonade, in your top five is it's white out of all that mad white it was it's that him and peach that's like that's like it's great yeah that's like white and then white like like pink lemonade is I just I don't get it it's I mean so where's lemonade at I like pink lemonade better than lemonade all right now you just say I do you know what I'm saying where's where's like all right so where's like a but lemonade is like a six or seven it's right there so give me wrong

so where's Arnold Palmer is that like it's making top 10 No, I don't know Palmer's kind of ass. I ain't gonna lie. What? I'll place tea lemonade. This is how why they am, I'll put cranberry, uh, raspberry cranberry juice ocean spray. Like top three. Nothing ocean spray. We don't want, we don't drink nothing ocean spray over here.

Oh, you on your own, baby, because that white, that white, um, white grape. That white grape, that white grape, that white grape. Now, granted, I can't, I don't drink juice like that. There's not a single cranberry in there. Nah, you didn't commercial? That white cranberry? You guys like going through the cranberry river. single white piece. There's none of that in any of those box. You didn't as a kid like always want to go in one of those

cranberry like ponds? Remember the commercials they would be in like the cranberry pond? Yes. I always like I've never stumbled upon one. Where do they hide them? I don't think they're real. Like I've traveled and no one's been like, all right, when you're here, you have to see the cranberry pond. That was the first a y, the cranberry pond. That was the first a y'all. That's when they first fooled us on TV. And then I started thinking that cranberries, like is it an ocean thing? No. Like for real? Definitely not. Is it from sea urchants? How do they, how do they, how do they, how does it? They just create a bunch of the sea urchins. But when they discontinued cranberry tangerine ocean spray, that was like a really devastating day for me.

Cran tan. Oh, y'all really drink ocean spray. Cran tan. I was a kid. I drink the white, the white crayon. I'll do it with, I'll do an ounce of it, and then I'll do seven ounces of sparkling water. Oh, you have a point. So wait, like, you measure your drinks before you drink them?

Yeah, well, I use, um, I use mason jars. They have the measurements already on there. So I'll just do the one ounce of juice. Because juice has weight. First of all, it's not real juice. And second of all, it's like there's no nutritional value other than fucking sugar. So, yeah, I take the one little ounce and do it with sparkling water when I want something sweet. Yeah.

But even now, I don't even really drink juice like that much to begin with at all. That's what I drink now. My top 10 list doesn't really. That's all this is. Sparkling water and Keelon. Mm-hmm. Bustum. That's it.

I've only only had key lime pie. No, you got to get some key lime in your water. What is the key lime? I love just something Key Westhead. No. For dessert. You don't know what a key lime is? Mm-hmm.

What does it look like? It's like a very small, very small. version of a line. The real limes. The majority of our lines are not real. Not the American ones with steroids of them. Yeah. No.

Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Well, then yeah, sparkling water with lime is, that's a go thing. Incredible. Yeah. I feel like that's old people's shit. Like, I can't, like, I can't drink no whole cup of chew. I feel like my teeth are just cracking in my mouth if I do that.

Like, I need the sparkle, the water. Like, it needs to have damn near no flavor. Now, I can't eat. I can't drink sparkling water with food, though. Really? No. Oh, you feel full? Yeah.

Yeah. Not just that, like. like bubbly washing that down on I'm eating it's just nah just burping up yeah I just need water just give me some water some juice maybe but not no no no spark on water I was in L.A. shooting the off-road video over the weekend and good segue because when was the last time you guys had a Gatorade because I cannot believe that I drank that shit as a kid

Gatorade is so sweet like I had not had a Gatorade in so long and I had one on set and I was like yo how the fuck did I drink that? to go crazy for the ice blue. Yeah. The ice blue Gatorade. Oh, man. I had a Gator light, maybe like last week. They have Gator Light.

They have Gator Light. Yeah, it's like Pedia Light, but Gatorade. I thought it was like, isn't there like Watergate or whatever the, what is it? No, it's a version of Gatorade that just is way less sweet. Yeah. Gator light. Okay. I don't know.

But it's like. See, I don't want to see them talking shit about too many podcasts. There's too many fucking drinks available. Let's talk about what's really too. It's too many fucking drinks on. the shelves. New drinks in the streets. Gatorlight. What the fuck is Gatorlight? It's a rapid rehydration electrolyte drink. I drink it when I... No, that's Gatorade.

No, but Gatorlight is better, I think, because it has less sugar, but more electrolytes in it. Oh, so you get diabetes slower. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Because I feel like real Gatorade is not like, that shit ain't really hitting with electrolytes. That's like Pediolite. See, that's why y'all not, see, you're from a different time. See, in the park, all you needed was the fire hydrant to be turned on to get rehydrated. I liked Gatorade as a kid, but never when I was playing sports. I know. Tastes. You could taste the asphalt. Yeah. That real Bronx. It's not a mineral. Yeah, no,

it's real. Asphalt. Taste the silver lining of the metal pipes in the New City. That's going to be a lawsuit in like 60s. That's what you know. Just flirt with a specialist a little bit. I saw. Fluoride. It's great for you. Yeah. You need it. Remember when they told it's fluoride was good for us? Yeah. Absolutely. It's all in our water. But yeah,

when I was playing sports, I could not drink Gatorade. Did not quench my thirst at all. It kind of like made me more thirsty. Yeah, it drives you out. How people could drink that while they were playing sports is beyond me. We are back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Unlimited talk, text, and data in case you wanted to talk and text while you in L.A. Rory, I don't know if you know that.

I didn't. I wasn't even roaming. Yeah. Boost. It worked in a lot. Get the boost. What the fuck. But no, L.A. was cool. I was in and out. Shot the video. But, you know, L.A. is still L.A.

Yeah. When I'm missing much. Yeah. We actually a really good time. It was the first time I've left, like, a visual and like felt amazing and not pessimistic. I was like, this was a good, amazing day. So shout out to Raven. She directed it and she's also in it. So it's a fun video. I'm excited to show you guys. Shut out the Raven.

Did you accidentally get knocked in the pool or was that I'm perfect? See, look at you spoiling shit already. Sorry. My bad. Oh, I'm sorry. Take it out. It's wild. No, it's fine. Yeah, it's part of the actual treatment of me being pushed into a pool.

Oh. And I will tell you now, if you are going to get pushed into a pool, don't wear like probably the thickest corduroys of all time because you will sink to the bottom and you need to be a strong swimmer you had cordelores on in a pool I did nice

yeah art it's art you don't understand art no I can't like you're right I guess I got a quarter a little bit of a pool never I never really thought about you don't understand this Virgil shit I'm right you absolutely different I said you write about seven times you're right you got it you won

but that was your Fourth of July It was cool, man, chill, quiet. I ain't do nothing too much. I went to my boys' crib. He had a little cookout. I was there for a couple hours and got back home. That was it. Demer, she went to, did you go to Miami?

Or that was another weekend? No, I went to ATL and saw some friends. It was cool. Okay. What's Atlanta like on the fourth? I didn't really get to see anything. Like, I was kind of like more towards the suburbs. And, you know, I ain't really want to be in the mix anyway.

So it was, I mean, I guess people have fun. I don't know. I'm boring. I know I don't do shit. I bought a new book. I was reading. Everybody hates America until July 4th. I think they still hate it.

I think they just enjoy your cook-outs. They just enjoy a day off. It was loving July 4. They was outside. It was traffic everywhere. Fireworks on every block. I'm like, all right, man. I thought these were illegal.

I will say, I mean, L.A., I got there sort of late. I didn't really do anything. I pretty much flew to L.A. the entire 4th of July. But there really wasn't traffic like I thought there was going to be. even I was in like by mid city where the fireworks were and drove like it was a regular LA night I was like oh nobody gives a fuck about the salad anymore yeah but I mean go America I guess hey man listen man the fireworks here actually looked at the big beautiful bill signed he would it that was the birthday gift to what is that exactly the big beautiful bill you know what the big beautiful

bill is come on tons of stuff in there come on man there's tons of stuff in there um the fireworks actually look kind of cool in New York all the the videos I saw under the Brooklyn Bridge with all the fucking sparklers. I thought they kind of went all out. Eric Adams is trying to do his last hurrah. Listen, man, this is definitely his last hurrah. He's fucking out of there. I can tell you that right now. He just wants to spend all the money on fireworks while he's here. He's gone. He's out of there. Get him out of there. Well, on July 4th, I believe it was on July 4th, Drake dropped a new record. Well, I guess like a mini movie, like a film. I guess short short film. Visualized?

Episode one. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know it was episodes. So, yeah, it was a visual for what did I miss plus a snippet of another record that sounded pretty good. But what's everyone's thoughts of what did I miss? Maul predicted this like in April.

Or did you just, were you just asking the question, what did you miss? And it was just a coincidence. It was a coincidence. I mean, I figured that. Yeah, come on. Sometimes you wake up, you like, what did I miss? Exactly. Everybody says it, right?

Yeah. What's funny is I remember when you tweeted that and I started like looking through the comments of like wondering what you missed. I was like, wait, did I miss something? Because you know like sometimes when all put the laughing emojis, then I got to go find what he's laughing about. I really thought with the what did I miss it? It was similar to laugh emojis and I was like, I must have missed it too. Maybe we'll find out on the episode.

But your thoughts on the record. I mean, you know, great record. Great song to come back with. Great sentiment. I think he addressed a lot of his feelings coming out of last year. Well, some of his feelings. Not a lot of them, but some of them, I'm assuming. Yeah, it's good, good music.

I think that's what Drake is getting back to. Just make some good music. You know, last year we had obviously one of the biggest moments in our coach's history. And, you know, him coming out of it, feeling the way he feels and looking back at things. I guess this is the song that he sat in the studio and this is what he came up with. So this was the sentiment. What did I miss? And yeah, I like it.

Good music. Yeah, I know. I think it's a cool record. And this is just going to be more like overthinking it for not just for the sake of conversation, but just I like to overthink records. Would it have been better if it was just more open-ended and generic? Like, because I think the hook is incredible. I think everyone can relate to that.

Like, I think it was really only the pop out line where I was like, either do it or don't. Like, either go all the way. back in and let's go round 19 on this entire thing or just make this record's already there. Like the hook is there. Everything's great about it. I just don't know if like the pop out part was necessary because then it brought everyone back to talking about this fucking battle again instead of just a great record. Newsflash, worry.

It's never going to go away. It's never going to go away. It's never going to bring up that battle. Yeah. Just get that out. This could have been a straight R&B song. No matter what he does for the rest of his career, somebody is going to find a line. somewhere to attach it to the battle.

Yeah. But the pop out line I thought was necessary. Like, you know, he's reminiscing on everything that he sat back and watched. Was that I saw the debate. Was that about Braun or DeMar? Or both? Listen, man, if you ask those two gentlemen, I think they both feel like it's about them, right? That was a long time.

Tala may feel like it's about him, you know? Like, it's a few people that was there. Yeah. And they feel like it was about them. So, you know, it's kind of like if it applies, wear it. That's all. But yeah, I mean, I think it's a catchy record. I like the beat switch.

It was just a cool record. Yeah. Like, I don't really want to overthink it. Like, that was kind of just the only thought I had outside of this is catchy, and this will probably work for the summer. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's definitely going to work. But do you think this would be the one to pass Michael Jackson?

Because I like the record. I just don't think it's one of those. You don't think this is going to be number one? I don't know. Even for Drake. number one records are not as easy as people think they are like overall it's for hip hop

sure yeah it'll be number one but an overall number one record is a very very difficult thing to do like look at the last number one Drake head first person shooter like that's a legendary song that's a classic record it's tough to get number ones I don't know if this will be the one though

I could be wrong person shooter to me I was shocked it went number one exactly like I was really shocked I'm not shocked that this is going to be a number one record first person shooting shoot it to me, definitely still to this day, I can't believe what number one. Wait. Because that was like a rap record.

Oh, that's why you didn't. Okay. I just wanted to clarify, because I was like genuinely confused. Like, that's a fucking amazing record. No, no, no. It's just such a hip-hop record. Yeah, but it's, that's like rap. Like, you understand what I'm saying?

That's like really, really just two MCs rapping on that record. Like, but at the be number one like that, like I didn't think that that would be number one. Even like when Cole goes number one, it's with Miguel. Like, it's never. to go number one with rap. Well, that was Cole's first number one. So he's never went number one before. But I mean, I get that.

But I also, he's also the reason the record went number one. It doesn't go number one without him. No, we don't. What are we doing? DeMaris, you think you can prove that? No one can prove. You can't prove that. I can prove a negative.

He does not have any of the number one. That's how it's proven. Okay. I didn't say that it would go number one without Drake. But I also don't think it goes number one without Cole. I think them together mesh together is what made that record. so good. I don't think that's a wild statement to say. If somebody doesn't have any other number one for you to put that against, I think that is a very wild statement for you to say. For me to say

that them together made the record is good. No, no, no, it's not what you said. You said without cold it doesn't go number one. I, because the best part of that song is, Drake will say the best part of that song is cold. We're like, that was the most memorable part of the record when it dropped. Am I making this up? Like, are we right? I just think it's like a hard thing to even debate. Yeah, like, all right, so if Cole's not on it, is it a blank verse? No, it's not going to number, like, of course. No, no, no. Her statement was that that record, that record. I personally don't think that that record.

Cole doesn't have a number one record. He doesn't get his number one without Alicia Keys, but they both like delivered. All right, you miss what I'm saying. If an artist does not have a number one record, how can you make a statement that if he wasn't on that record, it wouldn't go number one? Well, everyone gets their first number one. Well, not everyone.

But to have a number one record, it means you got a first one without proof that you could get one. You still not answer my question. If Cole was to stand out on the record. If you don't have any number one records in your catalog, Rory. Okay. And you have a song with me. I have probably 80 number one records. Okay.

However many. Who's counting at this point, right? You would make the statement that, yo, if I wasn't on that song, it wouldn't have number one? No. I just think they both compliment each other. I think there's been plenty of times where our singer has done a hook that didn't have a number record and it went number one because of their hook.

It's a great song. We know that they both compliment each other well. I'm asking you the statement of saying if this person who doesn't have any number one songs, if he wasn't on this record, it wouldn't go number one. Is that a fair statement? I said to both you guys, I think it's not a fair statement on either side. It's a weird thing to even debate, especially when you don't have any other number one records.

Sure. Exactly. But back to you, baby, D. I'm sorry. Delivered all. I lost my train to thought, child. Anyway, first person shooter was amazing. It was an amazing song.

I was just wondering why you didn't think that it should have went number one. You said it was rapy rap. I think the only person that was super, super rapping, like in a way that songs don't go number one when you rap like that is cold. Drake didn't really get into a super, super rap bag on that song. He made it, Drake made it like a song. He didn't really go super rapy rap. Even the way he rapped on that, I wouldn't say are similar to what Drake's number one records have been. It was a very hip-hop record to me.

That's why I was shocked. That's all. Oh, wow. We can agree. I mean, I think it's great that a record like that can go number one. But a rapdy rap record like that, you're going to need Drake and Jay Cole to make that go number one. For sure. And in that sense, because, like, I don't know too many rapdy rap records that have ever went number one. Is there any?

Like, rapy rap songs? Maybe lose yourself. Yeah. Okay. Also, I'm going to. I'm now. It's rap. He rapping, though.

Chico. Rapity rap rap. But that's true. That's all. Yeah. I'm looking up rap songs that went number one on Billboard, but you guys can't keep going. Sorry. Um, so Josh had asked in our Twitter, New Roy Maw Twitter community what people were thinking of the new Drake record. Somebody said, I have grudges for bitches from the sixth grade. So yeah, I too will never shut the fuck up about someone I consider a friend doing me wrong. Immediately added to my workout playlist. Yeah, it's relatable. Great B, but after a couple of listens, he still don't realize we want more substance from him. Like, first, all right. Every song doesn't have that fucking substance. And by the way, that song does have substance on it.

It's just like a catchy record. So you purposely dumb things down for melody. But what, like, that's just, I'm just, everyone's opinions are off to me today. That's all. Like, why? I just want to throw out here that Mark, that Marky Mark had, Marky Mark and a funky bunch has a number one record. As they, I mean, as, as, I mean, they shouldn't. And that's, that's, that's, that's rapidy rap rap. That's rap. What else is on there that that would be surprising? Oh, that would be surprising. I don't think any, crossroads went number one. I don't think that that's surprising, though. And that, I mean, phone dogs are great rappers, but I would not call crossroads a rapidy rap song. Yeah, hypnotized, obviously, is on there.

But I'm looking for things that are more super rapidy rapid. I'm actually not seeing it. Does first person shooter even have a hook? No. Yeah. Like that, that's shocking. Hypnotize, even as big is wrapping his ass off on that. You know why it's going number one. For sure.

That sample and the hook. But. I think first question, isn't it big as the big as the what? Isn't that the hook? Big as a Super Bowl? I mean, that could be. I think that's, I think that could be the hook. Think so.

Yeah. I don't know. I got to listen to it again. Ice ice, baby. Somewhere in there. Ice ice, yeah. That's not right. P.

He's rapping, but that's a pop record. It is a pop record, but let's not act like if you go back when L. L. L. L. L. L. I wasn't kind of rapping on that. I said he's become, like, cheesy, but he was getting his shit off on that record. 100% he was rapping, but it's a pop. It's a pop record.

Listen, man, Chris Cross was kind of rapping on jump. Eminem featuring Dr. Drey and 50 Cent crack a bottle. That went number one? I hated that song. There's no way that went. I hated that song so much. There's no way that went on. That song is so fucking bad.

There's no. No way that song was number one. It did. It did. Yeah, everything else is stuff that you would suspect. Crack a bottle. It was like right at like the peak of 50 when things were like plateaued a bit, but it was still like the peak. Both at that time.

Yeah, I can see why that formula. That song does not deserve to be number one. God. Snow and former went number one. Of course. What? That was on every 90 CD fucking commercial. Are you kidding me?

Of course that was number one. Gangst's Paradise? Absolutely, number one. Yeah, I'm saying? He was rapping his ass off on that. Yeah, yeah. Has a super catchy hook, though. Humble, I mean, Humble has a super catchy

hook, too, but I would say that Humble is one of the most rapy rap songs. I didn't even know Humble One number one. Yeah, Humble one. Yeah, Humble's a rap fucking zone. And Bodack Yellow. Yeah, Bodack Yellow doesn't have a hook, right? No, Bodak Yellow has a hook.

Yeah, Bodak Yellow. See, a little bitch, you can't fuck with me if you wanted to expensive Dism is wrap bottoms. See ya. getting jiggery with it i mean it was written by naz he rapping yeah but the majority of these songs you would expect to go number one from the moment you heard them yeah for sure so yeah but yeah that was i mean in comparison to that it is i guess it is a rapidy rap song just to wrap that conversation up but um but i mean as far as like reactions from everyone on the timeline i

not that i was like going out of my way not to read through too much because i was sort of busy but I don't like really even care about people's opinions when it comes to anything like Drake and Kendrick related anymore. No, yeah, for sure. I don't even want to check social media when they put stuff out. Like I just want to either enjoy the music or if I don't like the music, not listen to it. That's the, see, but that's the bad part about it is that those two now are forever what he doing, what he's doing. It's like you got to kind of look at the inside of view and see what each other is doing. It's like, we wasn't doing that.

And I don't blame people for reacting that way, especially. especially if, you know, he's bringing up stuff from that era in this song. So, like, I get it. I'm just, I'm exhausted. Yeah, but he, I just want to like the music I like. Yeah, but he didn't, he wasn't like, he didn't bring up Kendrick. He said the pop- Yeah, no, no, I said that era. I said that era, like that moment in time. I mean, that's, that's what he is from now one as far as he's concerned, I'm sure, yeah, absolutely. Pussy's a funny word. Yeah, what you thought that was going to change? No, that's never going to change.

What's the line in that? When he says pussy, I did laugh at that line. Yeah, I did laugh at that line. Peach, why are you? Hanging out with pussy's who try. Peach put a melody to it. Well, yeah.

What did you think about the snippet of the second record when he's driving around in the Iceman truck? Super Max? Oh, yeah, I guess that would be the name. Yeah, he did say that on the hook. Yeah, I thought it was a good record. Do you want to hear? You not right?

No, I'm just, yeah. Yeah, I was glad to say. Would love to. No, yeah. Love to know about the conversation at dinner with Taylor. Good music, man. Good music, man. That's all.

I just want good music, man. I'm going to hear good music. What do we think Ice Man is going to be with based off the one record we do have and the official snippet, even though it's not a snippet. Even though it's not a snippet. Like, it's just not on DSPs. You could listen to the high quality version of that right now on YouTube. But what's it was everyone's thoughts of where there's direct? is going to be. Again, I do share similar thoughts. The album? I do share similar thoughts with

some of the people in our Twitter community. If people did that shit to me, I'd never let it go either. I'm always going to bring that shit up. Do we think the whole fucking album is going to be that, though? Nah, I don't think the whole album is going to be. I think there's obviously always going to be certain bars and things like that. But the whole album being that, no. I think, you know, it is what it is. Like, this is, you know, we like for rappers and artists to right from real experiences and real moments and things like that. This was a real experience and a real moment for what happens to be one of the biggest artists in the world. So, yeah, we're going to hear about this.

It's not going to be something that I think that he just ever completely, you know, pushes to the back of his mind and moves past. But addressing in the way where it feels like it's still part of a battle or ongoing battle, no, I think that's over with it. But there's always going to be bars and shit, you know, directed at certain moments and certain people around those moments, I think for a while to come for sure. But I think the music, I mean, he's getting back to what Drake does best and that's make good music.

Yeah. I'm curious, like, production-wise, what direction he's going on this one. As far as the music? Yeah. I really like the beat on the second. I'm sure a lot of Boy Wonder still. Yeah, Supermax shit. I like that beat a lot.

What did I miss? I mean, it's a cool beat. I get it. But I'm more so thinking like album cuts. I am singles. But if it's anything like the second... I'm sure conduct is on there. If it's anything like the second record he played,

I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. But... Are you looking forward to any Drake album? For sure. Yeah, absolutely. Demaris, what's your thoughts on Ice Man outside of not liking the title?

I didn't say it on like the title. I know, but I know you thought it. I didn't really... I heard, like, clips of it. I didn't really sit and listen to it. Dang, he wasn't outside. Listen to what are I miss in Atlanta? No.

No, I didn't really... You touch the street. I don't know. I've gotten to a point where I am a little exhausted from this beef. So anything that even looks like it's more than a little exhausted, anything that even looks like it could be related. There could be a sub. I'm not running to it.

I'll listen to it eventually. But I'm not running it. Give me shit for the hose. Like, oh no. What did I mean? The host, that's going to be captions nonstop. Like, it's definitely for the host.

Okay. You should be. Maybe I'll check it out. You should be shady as girls all to each other? Absolutely. That whole record is now. I see not that. I'm not.

I'm not a shaky. bitch. So shit like, like, tell me about you being sad, you lost the bitch and you bought her a Chanel bag and that's what I want to hear. I want to hear you talk about buying Chinette bitch of Chanel bag. This beef shit, I'm exhausted about it, honestly.

Like, please give me something where I could post so I can let a nigga know I want this Chanel bag that Drake was talking about, please. Oh, speaking of rap battles, I thought Mall got me in trouble with Dreamville again. How? I ain't even say nothing.

I guess it was like right when I was taking off. I got a FaceTime from my guy Barry, who was Jid and Earth Gang's manager. Super great guy. I saw the miss call when I landed, and then I had him. It was like, yeah, it was his flight. He didn't reply for like a day. And then I was like, you thought he kicked you out the car? I was like, that was odd.

You just text me back pretty quick. So I pha stomped him. He was like, oh, no, no, no. I meant to call a different. Rory and was like, oh, I thought, I thought I was getting trouble for the Nick Grant situation. Oh. I just assumed right when I saw that

miscall, because we had just dropped the episode, I was like, oh, this is 100% a miss call about Nick Grant and Jad. And Dreamfield being mad at me once again. We were just, like, all coming back to be family. No, but it's just rap. Healing our hearts. And no, it's no, nothing. It's just rap, man. Just rap is one

to rap, man. Let's rap. That's all. Um, did JID react to anything? I mean, I did see a lot of people on the internet talking about it, which I thought is great because I think Nick deserves as much flowers and, you know, attention as possible. Um, but yeah, I'm not sure if Jid did, but I know he's, I mean, he dropped the song with Eminem. You think that was the reply to our podcast? Absolutely. Yeah. Who is, what's the name of it? He just got a 90 bars from Eminem. Yeah, well, what's the name of it? Animal part one, I believe. Oh, animal. Okay. Um, yeah, so he's putting out, uh, I don't know if all of them are on DSPs yet or just YouTube. Um, I know animals on DSPs, but Jid had put out, I think it was like four or five records that aren't making the album. So like, you know, a pre-EP. So the Eminem songs not making an album? No. Which I was like happy about. I know why you're happy about it, but that's, that's, because I love Jid's like, photography and even though I get it. Jid is a rapper I'm trying to save you That's just not for me

Okay cool Great What I'm saying is this Have we ever Seen a situation where Eminem gives somebody a verse And it doesn't make the album No I don't think I've seen that before

That's what I'm talking to Rory I'm not talking to your preference In what you want to hear At this stage of your life I'm not talking to that My preference is to keep it off the fucking album Okay. I got that.

And that seems to be their preference too. No, listen, but this is why I want to ask the bigger question here, because J.I.D. may have just made history with this move. Have we ever seen Eminem give an artist a verse and they leave it off of their album? No. I don't know. I don't know. It's all I'm saying.

I don't know. Wait, did that Conway, did the verse Eminem gave Conway? Did that end up on an album? Did that end up coming out? Like, officially? The song? I thought it linked or something. But was it on a project?

Was it on Conway's project? Bang featuring Eminem, yeah. What album was that on? It was on. God don't make mistakes. Okay. So yeah. First of all, at that point, I think Conway was still signed to Shady.

You think they're going to allow a Shady artist to not put their M&M verse on their own? Well, this is, that will be the, this will be the only verse that I probably can think of on, from Eminem that. I couldn't remember if it was on the album or not. But that was on God, don't make mistakes cool. So that's on the album. I don't know if this may be the first time that Eminem's given an artist a verse and it's not on the album. Yeah. I thought initially before I'd read that Jid's post of saying like here's the records that aren't making it, they'll be on DSP soon, here's YouTube.

I thought that was the first single, I'm sorry, the second single of the album. I was like, oh, off the record, right to the Eminem joint. and thinking something is a second single and then finding out minutes later that it's not even making the album was like okay cool no i'm listen i'm fine by me i just would like to i need more information on how that conversation went though with him and his people like yo listen thanks for the verse but we're not going to put it on the project i'm trying there's maybe big sean i don't i'm trying i don't know i'll get yeah you're i don't think that's This is new territory, right? This is like Eminem, first of all, getting the Eminem verse is a big deal.

And then you saying, yo, nah, we cool. We, you know, it didn't really fit the aesthetic of what we're trying to, however you dress it up on the email. It didn't fit the aesthetic. On the email. Yeah, whatever it is. Because you're not going to call it and say it's not making the album. You're going to sing that in the email.

So I don't know, man. This is a, this is a, this is a. This is a. move right here. And on top of that like M, of course when M does features he wraps for a while but he like he rapped for a long fucking time on this. Oh, or is

this a world where M didn't clear it? Nah, because they wouldn't have put it out. Yeah, like Jettys with a major like that they, I'm just not allowed on that. I'm just trying to find the, you know, Eminem verse being left

off your album after he you know, grace, graciously sent it to you. That's a bold move is all I'm saying. And like it said Animal Part 1. So like what if Animal Part 2 is on the album and it's like

featuring like Ian? Ian who? The little white kid that sounds like future. Like what if Animal Part 2 has a wild feature on it and it made the album? Several Eminem collaborations were recorded but ultimately didn't make it onto his out. No, those are his album.

his shit. Yeah. God damn it, Josh. Yeah, no. There's no way there's an M-verse flowing out there. But that's funny that that's the only way

an M-verse doesn't make the albums if it's his album. It's got to be his shit. Yeah. Yeah, that shit as well. What's that exhibit in Eminem song? That's great. I don't know if that ever made an album.

Like, don't approach me or something. That was a great record. Yeah, don't approach me now. That made an exhibit album. Bro, I'm telling you, man This does not happen I don't think there's any This does not happen

I don't think it never happened Yeah, and you said that like it was just like Bro, an eminent verse don't get left off of albums After he sent you a verse Okay That's this is That's like leaving

That's almost like leaving A J album off your album A J verse off your album Has that happened? Not really But that's almost like Leaving a J verse Of your album

Like those are like This is the legends of legends Yeah Has that ever happened with Oaf? Like with the biggest artists Is that ever happen? You think somebody has a JZ verse and it didn't make that. But I'm thinking you don't believe that shit.

You don't believe that shit. I thought like maybe politics of like that was their single and then they never put an album out. It would have been on an album, but like the album never came. I'm thinking something like that scenario. If I had a JZ verse, that's the only song. If you have a JZ verse, whatever, that album is coming out. Whatever label distribution you got, they are making sure that rolls out of the door. There's no way you have a JZ verse.

JZ verse and it's just single and then the album doesn't come out. That's not happened. Amel, did she ever put that album? She got a bunch of J verses. Yeah, but that's different. That was his artist. It's different. That's his artist.

You know what I'm saying? Like, nah. Yeah, you don't have him and him. Saigon. Found one. Yes. He has a JZ verse. Yes, he does.

And the album didn't come out? I don't think it made the album. When he was supposed to have that one with Just Blaze. Jay Z But wasn't he just Just artist? Yeah Come on baby

Saigon It's a good record I don't even know if it officially ever came out Come on baby Come on baby Yeah

I remember that joint I feel like that was you Someone No never mind From moral of the story Exactly Exactly I guess I'm saying

I knew that was somewhere I thought it didn't Like come out officially Nah man You don't have a Jay Z verse And nothing comes out That does not happen. This shit does not.

I was just give up on looking. I would just give up on looking. This is, yo, tell him M&M, yo, listen, I'm cool, but. Yeah, fuck. All right. You know what? Thank you.

Okay. So do we think that Animal Part 2 is just Eminem and Jid again? Like, that's why? And because they both wrapped for fucking 15 minutes, maybe they'd split it up. Cool. I hope not. It's crazy.

I hope not. We're not going, don't give us part. part two and this y'all again. Y'all could have just two parts. Y'all could have just stayed here like part one. Splitting it up. Don't Fast and Furious us with this shit. Don't do don't do that.

I mean, all right. Torreto. So about the family. All right, so who do you think is on Animal Part 2 then? If it's in the theme of this like, who do you get after Eminem after you rapidy rap? And the animals, the animals are all of the songs that are not making an album? Yeah. He might be a J verse

Yo, Jay Rapin' With Jay ID is crazy On an EP No visual I don't know Just a little throwaway I don't know man I don't know what you're doing over there

But you know telling Eminem we cool It's crazy I mean what all right Does that speak to how great This album could be that he's You know just throwing Eminem as it's like But why you think he didn't make the album You think he didn't like him's verse

No No I don't think I hope he said this doesn't fit the project. And like sonically what we're doing. And here's just some fun rap stuff that we can throw out before my actual album. That doesn't just... That don't happen, man. This is...

You know what's funny is... I'm not a fan of the song, but it's one of the better M verses I've heard in a while. I hate the song. I do too. But I'm saying it's one of the better M verses. So that's why it's even kind of crazier. That's bold, man. Telling M&M we cool is...

Bold. Bro, that does, you, bro, you laughing, but this isn't being serious. That does not happen. There may have been a conversation of not putting it out at all. And I'm like,

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Brov is loony. Bro, it's a little bit. So Skepter has a, he's, he's into it with Rocky right now, right? Is that, is that, like, official, like, for real? That's what he said. He was like, after he finished making this, this record dissing Rocky, he's going to give, joining like a bar on that record. And so I'm just like, oh, so is he talking about ASAP Rock?

Is there another Rocky out there that I'm not aware of? I can only think he's, assume he's talking about ASAP Rocky at this point, right? It's the only Rocky. I think Skeptor would be making a disc record. Unless it's some dope-ass artist from the UK named Rocky that's, you know, making noise out there right now. But I think I would have heard of him. I mean. Okay.

Well, if it is A-Sap Rocky he's talking about, he may have a point. I thought that was an insane statement. But if he's talking about A-Sab-Raki, I think Sceptor would give Rocky a run. Rocky makes great music. But I don't even think Rocky would say he's like the most lyrical. Yeah, no. Even his response to Drake was like, dude, why would you even, you just gave him all the ammo to reply? Yeah, no, no.

This is the worst thought out bar I've ever heard. Let's be clear. Like, I know a lot of people are not on to the UK rap scene and don't know, but like they get into that battle mode. Oh, yeah. And Skepta is, you know, he's been at this for a while. I said how I heard about a lot of the early UK crime stuff was because they was all beef. Exactly. Yeah.

It was disc records that you heard. They do, I'm not saying in my American arrogant way that we would clean them up. I mean, because it goes without saying we would clean them up. But I'm not taking away of how talented they are, especially when it does come to the battle shit. But if we send our best and you send your best, I don't know, man. He had some other, like some other people lined up as far as Gets versus Eminem, Chip versus Kendrick Lamar, Dave versus Lil Wayne and Young's Teflon. They just cleaning Wayne up right now.

Okay. And Young's Teflon versus Meek Mill are a few of the head to heads that he floated. Yeah, but you can't do that, but why are you grabbing those names? Yeah, like, why did you pick up? We got other niggas, get up. What's up with you, bro? Some other niggas that can rap. Like, what are he

doing? Why just threw Meek in the mix like that? Like, Meek is mine in his bed. Yeah, like, me can't even say nothing to nobody. Like, I think they said Blade Brown versus Pusha T, Queenie versus Megan the Stalien, Central C with Jack Harlow. I ain't a lot of cinch might wrap Jack up though. C. C.

I fuck with Central C, but I think you might back- You underrated. Nah, I'm taking Jack in that all day. He might. Listen, I love Churchill Downs too, Rory, but he might pack Jack. Jack got packed up on that song, though. I mean, yeah, but that's one of his better verses, though. I mean, pause, Jackman.

He was rapping, rapping, on that. Cinch might get him, though. that matchup that's the matchup that we might have to sit back and analyze a little deeper hmm I don't I think Central C because remember Cent's that he's UK drill yeah so that whole that energy that's already aggressive energy that he lives in I just feel like he invented the Nike tech that is true so he's war ready I just feel like as whites we need to stick together

we're better together man I love white on white white white crime I can't I love white on white crumb. Need it. Need it in my life. Meanwhile, I was fine with all the other matchups. Well, Joyner. You cool with Skepda. Yeah.

Joyner said he wants smoke with Skepda, so. Skeptor's not big enough. Skeptus says Joyne Lucas isn't big enough. I mean, we already know. I don't know, Joyner might win because he might rap from Skepta's perspective and diss himself. He might battle, like, he might battle Joyner. Damn.

Damn. And like put a accent. Joyner can rap, though. Of course he can't. Yeah, Joyner can rap for sure. No, Joiner can rap. Joyner can rap. He's battle tested.

He can rap. I'm talking Joyner in that battle. But skeptics, I'm taking Joyner in that battle. But skeptics battle tested too and he can rap. So, I mean, listen, man, if it's all for sport, fuck it. Let's see it. That's why I'm at now, man. If rappers, because we complain for years, we worry about rappers not rapping.

Oh, yeah. Rapper started acting. Rappers started modeling. Rappers started fucking trying to play sports, all kind of shit. Anything but rapping. Now that rappers want to rap, I'm happy. Fuck it. Let them rap.

Rapp. Joyna, fuck it. Drop the record, Joyner. Don't wait for, skip. Drop the fucking record. I know you got to record. Drop the record. Fuck it.

Let's start it. Start it off. Set it off. Did you want to reply? Because he's always trying to... He need to reply to the record. Tonight, drop it. Release the fucking record.

That's how you get a rapper to respond. Don't you got to wait for no IG pose and go live and it. Nah, I'm on your top. Here's the record Dropping on you two wherever Let's get into it Let's see what I can do

Did he put Gigs up against anyone In a hypothetical I didn't see gigs No Are they cool Skepton Gigs? Yeah

I can only assume they are Okay I don't I don't think they have I don't mean I don't know I haven't You know really gotten into that But I can not

I believe they are But I don't Now let me go back Skepta named a few of these But a lot of these Were like fans Yeah All right, I just wanted to.

I mean, I wouldn't want to battle gigs. Outside of him being a great rapper, I just, I think he might take that shit too far. Gags is so sweet. I would put that on them. Of course he is. Those be the ones, Maris. Mm-hmm. The nicest people in the world.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Say the wrong thing to gigs. A lot of machete the size of that trot ball right to. 100%. With that amazing smile that he has. With just a machete like the... Shout out the gigs, man.

I'm trying to think what. What other rap battles? There was some more shit that I felt like happened over the weekend. More rappers wanting to rap? I thought so. I could be wrong.

I was also distracted by thinking we have hit rock bottom. When people were covering themselves in baby oil outside of a courthouse, like, is this even a simulation anymore? Like, can we do a reboot?

Oh, yeah, we're deep into the simulation. Yeah, but how do we get an iOS update? No, like, can we like turn a, off, turn it on, just blowing the cartridge of life. That ain't go work. That ain't go do it. Yeah.

For real. Yeah. That's how I looked when I first realized we was in a simulation word, just like you. The amount of times said nothing surprised me anymore and meant it. I stand here mistaken. I did not think that people would be outside of the Diddy trial pouring baby oil all over themselves. No, I was surprised to see that.

Well, while we were gone, Sean Diddy Combs was found guilty on two counts of transportation. Prostitution. To engage in prostitution. And was found not guilty in the more serious charges he were facing. Rico. With a racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking. So now he is being held without bond. They were trying to, they were going for, I think they said, was 10 million.

Yeah. They proposed a 10 million bond. It was denied. Yeah, there was a rumor that he was. He was a remaining in detention until the sentencing. Which is October 3rd. That's a long time until sentencing. That's a very long time.

Yeah. So I think each charge carries 10 years. Yeah. Each count carries a maximum sentence of 10 years. But since this is his first charge, he's not a violent, you know, it's a lot of things that when you look at these federal. guidelines, his points and things like that. So he's on a low end of all of these.

So he won't receive the max on any of these charges. So it looks like he'll be home sooner than later. So when the verdict came, I initially was like, all right, he'll get time served and just get out whenever sentencing is. But when the judge had denied the bond and brought up the Cassie video, and that being a reason why he was not going to get any bail before sentencing. I don't know if this judge is really that fond of Puff. I think at first I thought it'd be time served. But the way that judge was talking about him, yeah, I think he might get some time. Well, on top of that, Cassie had,

her and her lawyers had presented a letter to the judge asking that he wasn't released on bond because she was in fear of her safety and things like that. So, you know, the judge had to take that into account as well. Then obviously with all of the evidence and, you know, video footage of the incident at the hotel with him assaulting Cassie, the judge, you know, he upheld that and was like, no, I'm not going to, we're going to hold him until sentencing. So, I mean, you know, everybody reacted to a lot of people were surprised. a lot of people weren't surprised. You know, what does this mean for victims? And then, you know,

wonder why a lot of victims don't come forward and speak and don't, you know, tell their side of the story and keep quiet about a lot of things because of things like this. They feel like the abuser or the person that they're alleging to be the abuser, it won't be any consequences. It won't be any, you know, reprimand for the abuser. So listen, man, you know, a lot of people on different split sides of this thing.

But I will say looking over a lot of these things because while this was all going on, Rory, we spoke about it, I didn't really pay any attention to the trial as it was happening because it was so many stories online and so many things that weren't true versus things that were. I just wasn't trying to sift through all of that shit. But now and reading everything now that the verdict has been handed down, a lot of the things I think they got right dropping a lot of the charges. We always thought it was weird to have a RICO.

One man RICO was crazy. Yeah. So a lot of those charges were dropped. But again, you know, maybe, you know, I could see how Cassie feels like justice wasn't served. I mean, you know, again, she went through whatever she went through. She took the stand told stories. Some of the stories she was consenting, a consenting act in a lot of the stories. Some of the time she said she didn't feel like getting involved with,

the quote unquote freakoffs and things like that. So again, you know, the trial was laid out in front of a jury of our peers and they found like there wasn't enough there to, you know, find him guilty of racketeering. Yeah. So listen, man, he had his day in court and it is what it is. Who needs to go to YouTube jail for a little while is Vlad's freaky ass. Vlad has been interviewing every male prostitute that has had sex with, Cassie, Jane Doe, anybody, and cool.

I get that. That's going to get a lot of clicks. That's not why I'm saying Vlad's freaky ass needs to go to jail. It's how he's interviewing this man that is the most uncomfortable thing I've ever heard my goddamn life. He's like, so at that point you put the condom on? So how did you rub the oil on you? Like, Vlad, are you hard right now?

Why are you asking all these male prostitutes, these freaky-ass questions? I cut that shit off. This is like an audio porn. This is weird. And it's Vlad's voice. Hill. You know, he's doing the Vlad work. That's all.

No, I don't know why Vlad's, it's going to get a bunch of views and people want to hear from these male prostitutes. But like, you know how sometimes Vlad will switch the interviewer and like someone else will interview? Like, get a girl woman, just anybody but your voice. Yeah. Like, he wants to know every detail. The fans pouring baby all in them. The people that was out there doing that. Listen, man

Like the clout The clout chasing shit is like at a different Because y'all don't care Like y'all not really celebrate You're not celebrating nothing You don't care about any of this Like you're just looking for a moment to be On video

To make it on somebody's timeline to go viral Like I don't know man I don't know but prayers to take all of the victims. And, you know, hopefully you find peace somewhere. But again, he had his day in court, and you got to leave it at that.

Over the weekend, I was getting a lot of text messages. And these are always my favorite ones of, hey, Maul was right. And I'm like, fuck. What was he right about this time? I guess over the weekend, Cardi B deleted all her IG posts with Stefan Diggs. I mean, I don't want them flowers, man. That was too long. It was easy flowers.

That was too easy, man. That was the easiest bouquet I ever had about it. Come on, man. And you were definitely right, but we weren't giving much pushback on the scenario that you laid out of like, this isn't kind of last. No, man. We were just saying it was fine because she's, you know what it is. Go have fun. Yeah, have fun, consenting adults.

Do what y'all do. I don't give a fuck. But I just get, you know, when people on the timeline get so caught up in these moments and these things and they start dropping these think pieces around. I'm just like, that's where. I just laugh. Like, have y'all not seen this movie before? Mm-hmm. Because I've seen it on VHS, on DVD, on Blu-ray.

Like, I've seen it on everything. I've seen it myself because I've done it. Yeah. Like, it's just like, listen, we know what this is. This is just to get the timeline riled up. I mean, they had fun together. And who knows? And while we said to somebody, who knows?

Cardi may have deleted it. They could still very much be, they could be laying next to each other while she's deleting all these pictures. Like, it doesn't mean, it is what it is. But, you know, if they're not together, if they not, you know, decided that they're not going to, you know, be intimate anymore, so what? What did they hit? Two months? Three months? Those are the best relationships anyway. Yeah. I mean, as soon as the Knicks lost, I knew it was over. Like, you know, they couldn't go to court side anymore. And, you know, it's twerking with hoax. That's every day thing in Miami. That's the new version of a Knicking. Yeah, but I mean, I can't take those flowers. I don't, I don't

want those flowers. But hopefully Cardi is happy. Hopefully Stefan is getting ready for his season. Listen, man, two consenting adults. Have fun, man. Live your life. Speaking of Holes in Miami, off topic, Roy, I hit up our mutual friend who's from Miami. And I was trying to acquire hose for a boat. I'm like, yo, going to have a boat. See, that's how your ass. You see, you see, baby Dee? You want you're going to sit back and you're going find your ass on Sinner Street in the middle of a, you're going to be in a one woman, Rico. sit yo stop calling looking for holes for a boat right i didn't want them to use their bodies i just wanted pretty women on a boat that's not

illegal so i hit her i'm like hey there are different laws in the water you're right i see what you did did did go ahead anyway i'm like hey you're so close to kuba i want some we're gonna have a boat i want some pretty women around like you know i'm saying i didn't say that they had to do anything i just said we want pretty women around on a boat because who the fuck wants to go on a boat and it's just no women that doesn't make any sense women water w's So I called, I hit her. And she was like, oh, okay, da-da-da. She was like, yo, what are you paying?

I was like, whoa. Go ahead now. What else you said after that? I said, wait. You said FaceTime audio. She was like, she said. They can't record this. Tell them I'll pay them on exposure.

By the way. She was like, well, the women in Miami now are like used to like being paid to be on a boat. I'm like, wait. Back in my day, you had the liquor, the food, the niggas with money. What you mean? Back in your day. It's still your day. You're fucking 30 years old.

This very fucking day. What are you talking about? No, but like, you know, back when you were one of the pretty women that were getting solicited to just hang out on a boat when I was like, what, 19, 20, 21? I'm 31 years old. I'm not like, nobody's hitting my old ass up to just go hang on a fucking boat. And we used to call those things parties. Parties.

Yeah. Like the party. You can't have those no more. I don't know if you know, Rohar. You can't have parties. Now it has to actually be like a bound contract. Yes. Here's a form of, well actually, isn't that prostitution?

No. Remember when people was like, yeah, let's just go for like the social aspect of it. Remember the mixers? Yeah. Yeah, those are finished. Those are over with. Yeah, women in Miami just being used to being paid to stand. I can't even blame them.

All the men in Miami, this is your fault. Yeah, men are responsible for all of this shit. A bunch of suckers out here. Like what? You're paying for a woman to just be there? I'm not the judge of people paying for sex. Hey, hey. Don't.

What? I'm with. Pay women for everything. But. Pay women for everything. I ain't doing it. That's how Puff ended up in fucking trying. See, that's what I'm saying.

That's completely different. Is it? I don't know if it is. I just don't know if it is, is all I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know. We just watched the trial. I don't know if it's different.

I don't know. It's all I'm saying. There used to be movies like love don't cost a thing where we realize Nick Cannon looked like a clown because he paid a woman to be his girlfriend. now that is the now that's the standard now that's love yeah man I mean it's just a different time man you know yeah but I don't care if I had all the money in the world again paying for sex I can see that I get that that's the oldest that's the oldest job on earth but to pay a woman to just come to your party is the most insane thing about it I you know what I what so what I was saying to her

hypothetically if this was a real scenario I said oh they must be fucking because I think they're expecting to fuck when they go on the boat. Got you. Because there's no way. That's just good old, you know, fashion prostitution. Yeah. Like I think you go on. I think you get paid because we had a conversation with our other mutual friend who

has a podcast about when her, when she went on vacation with her man and they bought a bunch of women with them. And it was like, hey, we're bringing up, we're paying these women to come on vacation. Some of them might get fucked. Some of them might not. Yeah. But they know that there is a good chance they're going to get fucked. I'm like, okay.

Man, niggas is by another Rico coming. There's another one on the fucking, get Brian still on the phone. It's another one on the phone. Don't get him on the phone. It's another one on the way. You niggas is called getting caught up. See, that's why I don't, nah, we're flying nothing out. Now get there.

No, we wouldn't fly in them out. Them holes lit there. Yeah, but I am. Don't, don't come around me. I ain't make no calls. Nah. I don't know you. No.

Mall name ain't and shit. I don't know. None of these holes on this boat. I'm here for the fucking pineapple juice. And they said we were playing spades. That was it. It was even crazy because I guess it's state lines that really make it trafficking, right? Yeah.

Like, I work in New York and live in New Jersey. I traffic every day. Hey, yo. Tell a jury that. Hypothetically. Don't tell me that. Tell a jury that. He going to be in a one-man freak-o, too.

I was in the Holland Tunnel. No, no. just live over here. That's a state line, sir. Yeah. She was my girlfriend. Yeah. Still trafficked.

Okay, but we, I know we're making jokes, but we're also not going to downplay sex trafficking. We ain't doing that. I don't know. No, I'm not. I want the audience and everybody else to be sure that y'all are not, y'all joking Kiki Kee Kian, but sex trafficking is a real fucking thing. So we-no, sex trafficking is a real thing.

But if I fly you to Turks with me and we fucking Turks, I better not get a call. I'm a year later talking about I'm on trial for sex trafficking because I, I flew a bitch of Turks and had sex. That is crazy. That can be considered sex trafficking. Well, that will, no, because that's not what he- Sex trafficking.

To me, I always thought was it grab his bitch throw in a white van and she's kicking and screaming. And that's what I thought sex trafficking was. I did not know that if you pay for one. That's your daddy sex trafficking. Yeah, I didn't know if you pay for a woman to go on vacation and have sex with her. Okay.

That she may then turn around and press charges. Let's use this case as an example. Did he is not going to jail or not be? I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about what sex trafficking is. Yes, but to an extent, but they're not going to come after you for that. They're coming after Diddy because Diddy was flying prostitutes to and fro. Not a girl you're just seeing or a girl that likes you.

Prostitution itself is illegal. And then to transport- Depends on what state you mean. Okay. And then to transport the illegal prostitute is a whole other charge. So I don't think that that's wild to say where people are like, oh my God, this is people like, you can't pay for holes? No, prostitution is illegal in the United States.

and the majority of the United States, it's always been that way. Until the government could find a way to tax them. Until then, but they haven't done it yet, so therefore the holes are still illegal. Yes. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people blew that out of proportion with this trial that Diddy was being arrested

for sex trafficking, for having consensual sex with somebody by just flying them to Miami or flying them in LA. That's not what it was. No. I didn't, again, when this whole trial was happening, I really didn't keep up with all of the shit that was going on. But from day one, I was just off the video of, you know, Cassie in the hotel, I was, I was cool.

Yeah. Like, that was it for me. I was just like, ah, yeah, I can't, I can't support him no more. Like, that's, that was just disgusting to see that. Anything else that happened after that, listen, I'm catching up to it now that the verdict is in and the trial is over. Like, I'm now reading up on that. I was not keeping up with it during the trial. But a one man, Rico to me, was always kind of just weird, is all I'll say.

I do want to put Josh on blast real quick, just in a pre-production way. He had added the Carnival Cruises changed their rules. So I clicked it because I was interested. And then under that, he said, are the new rules anti-black? And I want to say that Josh, that Josh, okay, I want to say that Demaris is racist. Because look at the new rules. Someone said it's anti-black. Trick your drug enforcement.

Youth curfew, Bluetooth speaker ban, drink package enforcement, reduce music genre options. Okay. Yeah, some of you niggas be playing whack music on them loud-ass Bluetooth speakers. I agree with that. The reason why I said that little follow-up tidbit is because that is the rhetoric and the conversation that is happening on social media right now. People are asking, people are insinuating that Carnival has gotten a little bit too ghetto.

It's been known as like the party boat and they want to cut down on that. So, for example, Damaris, it's okay to say niggas ruin everything. I'm not going to say that. What I will say is... I'll say it. Niggers ruin everything. What I will... I hate when you niggas find a new restaurant in the city.

I hate when you niggas find a new lounge in the city. I hate when you niggas find a new designer clothes. And I hate you niggas. Go ahead, Damaris. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm so happy we're able to get that off your chest. I was just going to point out to Rory the rules that people are taking as being anti-black.

Number three, fan restrictions. Handheld non-Battery fans are now prohibited, partly due to safety concerns surrounding the viral where them fans at, which is a black line dance. I have no idea what that is. It's a black line dance that stemmed from the South, all right? I don't think Bigot's curfew is nothing wrong with that. Guest 17 and under must leave public spaces by 1 a.m.

Unless a company by a doubt. I'm not mad at that. Guess 17 and under? I'm not mad at that. I'm shocked that wasn't already there. Yeah, that's why I'm not mad at that. I agree. I'm just, the ones that are anti-black, I'm pointing out.

Fan restriction. I don't know what that fan shit is. I don't, I have no idea what that is. If it's hot, I can't hold a fan. I just explained it. It's the, there's a, the fans, the handheld fans, not the battery ones. The handheld fans, there's a line dance call where them fans at that requires the flicking of those fans. That is why that random ass rule is there.

That is why people are saying they're being anti-black. Where them fans at is a black line dance that came from the South. It's gone super viral recently. And that is why that new rule is on there. That is anti-black. Okay, that's anti-black. Reduce music genre options, though not officially banned, hip-hop and rap appear to have been quietly removed from the ship playlist. DJs are also declining guest requests now.

All right, well, this is a simple fix, DeMaris. Don't support Carnival Cruises no more. Yeah, I feel like that's easier. I don't know why y'all going on cruises anyway. Watch how to ask these through changes. They're going to have Little John DJ the next cruise. Yeah, that's all you got to do. The whites, though.

For sure. The whites of a carnival cruise with Little John. The whites are selling that out expediently. Yeah, I saw Little John in Vegas. Me and my boy was the only black ones in the room. White people love Little John. Yeah, absolutely. That was the Vegas shit.

You said it was a great show, though, right? Incredible. I couldn't believe Little John was up there doing all that shit. That was incredible. Little John in Vegas might be the whitest thing I've ever heard. Oh, no, it was incredible, though. Incredible. His set was incredible.

No, Liljohn's a legend. I definitely would have liked to see that residency. Yeah. What, like, I cannot believe the plays didn't burn down when shots came on. No. Like, that's a white anthem. It's really like the national anthem and then shots, shots, shot, shot, shots. Like, that's us.

It's like that and Bon Jovi for White to, like, neck and neck. Like, y'all lose y'all shit when y'all hear shots and then Bon Jovi. Yeah. Journey's up there, too. Yeah. Oh, God. Love Journey. Are you kidding me?

It's incredible. You know what's funny? I don't think there's such a thing as South Detroit. South Detroit? If you look at the city of Detroit, I've always wondered this from that journey. So where is South Detroit? Oh, man. Because isn't it like Canada right there?

You're right. Yeah, sorry, Journey. You can't be born and raised in South Detroit. Yeah. Just a city boy. There's no city. There's no city. You and the river. Maul, they're saying that summer 2025 is the summer of love.

That's what the streets are saying. I think they said that every summer. Yeah, but I mean, this is for real this time. This is really it? Yeah, but that's not going to happen. If you don't knock it out of the park, she's not going to love you. That's what? Just facts is facts.

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What is the cool or proper way to accept, you know, a compliment that you're sexy or good looking from your significant other, or in my case, my wife? Like, you know, like when I would get to, oh, you look good, you look sexy, compliments, I would just say thank you, but apparently that's not enough. Mainly because I guess something about my tone sounded, you know, not genuine. So then I went over the top and when she says, oh, you look good, sexy, blah, blah, blah. I'm just like, oh, you know, hey, don't threaten me with a good time. You know, this is all for you, blah, blah, blah. And that didn't work neither. So now I got to the point to where my wife was like, hey, man, I think, you know, I think, you.

You know, you're kind of indifferent when it comes to me giving you compliments, so I'm going to stop giving you compliments. And I thought she was bluffing, but as a result, she followed through with it. I'll, you know, I'll walk around with my shirt off, pause and all that, and nothing. She followed through with it. And, you know, the reason why I'm seeing what's the cool way to do it is because, you know, she's kind of sad about it because she's like, you know, I guess receiving compliments or words or affirmation, It's just, is it your love language?

And, you know, me being a husband, I would really like to try to make her happy and fix that. So, yeah, what's the right way to accept your sexually compliment? Damn, your wife stopped compliment you? I'm still. I'm stuck there. Like, that's like, eesh. I don't know, man. That's not a good sign.

My wifey stop compliment you. Yeah. Well, she did explain why she did. It's not like she just suddenly stopped. But if she's holding to it, though, like she's really not complimenting. That's crazy. Even if you don't take compliments. Yeah, she said it.

All right. Cool. I get that. But she's like holding the line. Yeah, she's being petty. I also don't think you should give out compliments just for people to respond the way you want it. Was the compliment even genuine?

At the same time when people were like, I did all this shit for you? And it's like, did you do it for me or did you do it for you? Because it made, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't like that. But you can't, to answer. your question, you can't, it can't hurt by saying not as sexy as you or something like that. Or like, oh, thanks, baby. I appreciate that.

Like, like, like, how sexy as you is a hilarious reply to a compliment. You're like, if your girl tell you, yo, you look sexy, I'm supposed to be like, not as sexy as you. Yeah. Not as much as you. Like, I'm going to, I'm just, that's not, she's going to, she's going to know I'm talking shit. Me? But it's, but it's not supposed to be serious. It's supposed to be like loving, joking, like.

Oh, for you. you but a cup. Jesus Christ. I mean, what do you say? That's what I'm saying? Like, you just back hammer out. I don't know what you do once you girls said. When he asked the question at the end, that was the first thing that.

Yeah, like, if my girl's like, like, put your dick out. Yeah, like, if wifey is compliment me, I'm like, yo, like, so what you want to? You want it? Right here. You want it right now? You want to? Yeah. Like, I'd rather, you know what I'm, like, if we're going, oh, yeah, you, you're feeling some type of way?

Because that's usually what girls do. They flirt. That means, y'all horny. You'll start flirting. with your significant other not like see because the marriage me I'm like that's dangerous

I'm talking about with husband and wife like if your wife is complimenting you like oh my you look good the gym looking good or I just want to let you you could be on your way outside like and I just want you to know you look good

you want him to drop it off before he leave the house not always sometimes I just want him to know that he looks good whatever man but women are so petty like their compliments will be backhanded of like

they know you know you know you look good, so they're going to try to shame you to make you feel worse. But that's what black people do with each other. Oh, that's what anybody does to each other. People you love. Oh, okay. Oh, you got that shit on? Check you out. You got that shit on. I see you. No, but I'm saying like an actual condescending. But where I'm from, niggas do that, that mean he ain't got that shit off. Stop. Demaris. If I was to walk outside and the homies be like, yo, you killing them today. That fit is trash. I'm never wearing this again. Yeah. Like, no.

Never like. No one's ever said that to me and meant it. Yeah. Like, you don't say that to the homies and he really is fresh. Well, how would you say it to the homies if he really fresh? Like, if my homie is fresh, like, he got up. You just like, okay. All right, it's a good fit.

You put that on. Yeah. But you don't be like, okay. Like, you know, nah, that means that shit look great. You look like a clown. But I feel like that's more like male friendship stuff. I think with men and women, like, she'll get upset when you put on like a good fit. and where the fuck are you going?

Exactly. If you look good, that's a woman's compliment. Where are you going? Yeah, where are you going? Where are you going? Oh, I must look good then. Yeah, exactly.

That's all. Demaris, no. She'd do that all the time. What I do? If your significant other looks good, do you start asking him where he's going? If you're not going with him. Oh, for sure.

Where are you going? Exactly. See, that's like the universe. Who are you all dressed up for? Yeah. Don't get fucked up. That's how you know you look good. When you hit him with it, don't get fucked up.

I'm fin to get some hoes. your girl say don't get fucked up or yeah yeah that's when you just got some one that'll actually compliment that's why you just got to look at his following and see how much it goes up that night um we got to get away from this so I don't do it I'm just saying that the girls do it I have to get out of this this is crazy what if I tweeted a bomb that day

I ain't talking on on on Twitter I'm coming on IG what if I posted a bomb yeah I don't mean I don't mean my page is public I know you who you following now who followed you who you're following who did you go out and follow at at but you what if i followed what if i followed a vacation page you don't know what that one tick was you don't know all my followers if you know your man you know this followers no you need to get a hobby i listen i have a hobby i read i'm saying that this is what women do yeah read instagram yeah read instagram yeah what you're

Yeah, that's what y'all do. Y'all read his Instagram. Women are so mean that all the shit that they like about you in the beginning is what they end up hating about you. Like, why you look that good? Same. Why are you being funny? This how the fuck I got you?

Yeah. Exactly. So if you were trying to be funny to get me, why are you continuing to make jokes to get more hoax? Yeah, like I wasn't trying to. I didn't give you a Netflix special just when I saw you at the club. First of all, you be giving bitches Netflix special. That's just what I do, though. That's just me.

Yeah, that's 100% of the time. It's not like it fluctuate. Mall is a, Mall is funny in front of women every time, yes. Yes, in front of women, the point. But he's funnier, yes. But I mean, that's because he likes women. I don't think there's not.

But see, but DeMaris, you'd be acting like I'd be doing that. I'd be like, yo, so what's your number? Like, I don't, see, don't make it sound like it's nasty. But somehow you always get the number. Order for all the IG. Not all the time. Sometimes. 79% of the time.

Yeah, but it's. IG is kind of like just to, you know, it's more work and keep up with the show type of thing. Yeah, it's not, I'm not using, I don't use IG for that. That's not, no. Oh, okay. No, that's not, that's not my bag. I've been out of that bag.

I don't even post on IG. The last three women you talk to, of course, over five to seven years. That's how long it's been. Got to be. Where did you meet the last three women? The last three women that I've dated, met slept with

I'm not going to say dated slept with town town one I've known for years before social media one I met on Instagram and another one I met through a friend

so you've used Instagram but I didn't go into that thinking it was going to be like you know sometimes it just happens Like you don't think about like obviously the person's attractive But I'm not thinking like you I'm gonna you know what I'm saying Give them my best spiel right now and then hopefully get the draws like no it just happens like that Best spiel on it deal yeah like you know I'm gonna give my best work like nah it just happens like that sometimes

That's all I suppose yeah I'm trying the last yeah it might be Instagram batting a thousand on my end The last few people you slept with not batting a thousand but because you probably went into it wanting that though oh yeah for sure yeah yeah but see if you go into it wanting that oh that's the found a moment attractive idea listen man if i had bro listen if i was if this was 10 years ago it would be now it's still your day too it's still your day too but i'm i'm done like i'm i don't want that you know anytime a man says he's done he is not done whatsoever fishing on social media? I'm definitely done with that. That's like the guy that says this is crazy.

That was my last night drinking and then by 8 p.m. they drinking again. But see, my thing is this long. Done fishing on social media. If you're done fishing on social media and you don't leave your house. You got to come with five referrals. That's what the mutual friends are for. Nah, fuck that. I got to see you. First of all, I don't even want to see you for the first time via social media. I'm already like it might be a lie. She might not look like that. That's off the gate. I don't give a

fuck how pretty I think you are. She might not look like that. It got to be referrals. It got to be real life. Yo, she's cool. Yeah, nah, she said, oh, okay, no, next time we ask you, yeah, tell her to come through. Pull up. Next event, we did like, yo, what's going on?

Yeah, nah, I asked the homie about you. Get into real conversation. Like, I don't know, but just social media, DM and back. No, no, no. Hey, Ma. Hey, Ma. I hear what you saying, right? Yeah, we're going to kick it, house party, mutual friend.

You don't leave your house. No, but that would be a reason to. Because the bad are going to be at the spot? Hell yeah. Now I know how to get you outside. If it's bad enough? problem. I drove to Montreal. Let's not forget.

But you got to, I'm a legend. You have to pay, you have to pay for their existence now, so. I love if you want to go outside. I mean, I ain't paying, man, listen. Yeah, go ahead, keep paying. The free ones on IG. No, they on IG, they got their fucking zeal and their bio. I'm saying, of course those exist, but there is still a regular group

of women on Instagram. Oh, of course. There's always going to be women that are not selling sex everywhere, but I'm just saying Like this the the ones that are just getting louder is all I'm saying It's just they're galvanizing the troops is what they're doing Me and Raven were going through a like a model agency website for Video extras and we thought catfishing was bad before and we you know we feel like we've learned all the tricks No no no no no no we are in the biggest era of they catfishing videos now okay

They have taken catfishing to AI the amount of AI women that are on real vetted modeling agencies is absolutely insane. It would blow your mind. They're not even catfish. They're not fucking real. Yeah. No, that's real.

That's a real thing. So they'll collect the first deposit to show up, like, first half, and they'll never show up. They're AI. They're not real. But this wasn't on, like, we weren't on back page. No, no. This is like legitimate model agency.

Yeah, absolutely. That blew my mind. And a lot of them, it's like, they're not. not even trying to hide like me and raven would start guests be like that is 1,000% of AI girl that's not a real person we're all doomed yeah man what I'm saying you got to be five referrals that's a lot of referrals that's a lot of referrals listen man listen you don't even want a girl that you know five people that know her shit you better now more than never I know I know what so let me let me let me let you let me let you let me let you let me let you know why mall is feeling like this

because I got a random DM from all randomly right mind you mall don't DM me That ain't why I'm feeling like that. Ma don't DM me shit. I don't even think he fucking follows me sometimes. Okay. So, Margaret, being from Maugh, bad bitch. Bad bitch. I'm like, damn, who is?

You should have known by your follower account. I'm like, damn, who this? Like, who are you like, who you send it to me? He was like, that's a man. I said, what, Ma, he like, that is a trans woman. Like, that is, she was not born female. I'm like, how you know? I love that she's giving you out a PC version of what I said,

because that's not what I said. Mall. But I understand. I love the marriage. believe that you said it that way. I love DeMaris for like, you know, buffering that fish. I like having a job. But that ain't what I said.

I like having it. I've got a new apartment. I think for one second you use the proper pronoun. You know, you know what I would have been with, Rory. You know, I led with that one. Yeah, nah. Yeah, I had to fuck DeMaris up with that one. She was bad, though.

She was bad. Wait, so you post it. Like, how did this conversation even start? No, I just sent it a video. I sent it a video of the transgender woman. There you go. and was waiting for her to just, you know, because DeMaris is horny. She's pretty women.

She just, you know what? First of all, Demaris thought you was sounding like a lick. Yeah, I'm going to put you on my home girl. I said she bad. Why you send me this? And then he, you know, he said, people are here getting tricked, shaking my head. I'm going to ignore, you know. I said, Maul, wait, how you know, he like, my home girl in Atlanta knows her.

And I'm like, oh, wow. He's bad. The game is ice cold. Oh, I've seen. When I say the game is ice cold now, that's why it is crazy yeah i am happy five referrals i need to speak to your fifth grade teacher

i want to see your report card from kindergarten i want to see it all yeah i'm happy that the timeline is more progressive do you remember the old twitter days when there was a photo of a transgender woman she looked very attractive and low key put mad heart eye emojis and retweeted it oh king um oh my god And then for the next three days, the whole timeline was killing low. Like murdering. I mean, that would never happen in this time. That's how you get caught out there.

Dittling him. So how you get caught. So you get caught. Five referrals, Josh. I need to know five people that know you. Fuck that. I mean, but you could just, you can find out yourself. No, no, no, no, no.

No, no. Josh, so you could just ask. See, that he's going to be one thing. And again, I am not more. I am progressive. But that would be a. wild fuck and imagine if you were wrong like you're transgenital one right no said with so much conviction right that's like like that's like rubbing a fat woman's stomach thinking she pregnant type of shit

demaris would you be offended if a guy asked you that if i've been asked before really really not in person but over social media i've been told i look like a trans plenty of times i'm dead at least three times peach please hold on i'm being dead serious hold on wait but how do they ask Yeah, like Some people have commented it And they weren't like being like rude They were being serious And then some people have like

DM'd me. Nobody who's ever seen me in person But sometimes when I take photos My features look very sharp And that's kind of like I have like I have a sharp chin Or like when I was skinnier And I had a sharper jawline

Mm-hmm People hit you and asked if you were born man Did you have birthday makeup on? Shut up stupid No but this again This was when I was a lot smaller my cheeks were not as round. My face was a lot more cut.

Yeah. But in person, that's never happened to me because in person is very obvious. But even your pictures, though, I would never assume that from your pictures. Some people, some people have,

I don't know. See, my, though, I take it as a compliment. Trans women usually are like, one of the ways to point out trans women, they're a little bit too pretty. It's almost like you have two, it's, you're too perfect.

You're too, like, put together. So I don't, I don't mind. It's like, oh, you think I have pretty masculine features. That's fine. Mm-mm. Yeah. And many of them found out you weren't transgender and then was like, ugh, no. No, some just didn't respond.

And some was like, oh, okay, I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I was just wondering. I was just one. That's a wild thing to wonder. Yeah. I don't take a fit. So you got asked these days. Shit.

People don't be telling me. No, no, no. Listen, 100% you should ask. But I don't, I don't. DeMaris, though. I would never look at a demarice picture and think that, though. That's just, that's odd. Well, I think you should just find out on your own.

I think it's a better story. Y'all don't want me to find out on my own. Ma. It'll be a, this shit. I'm just saying everything goes away. All of this is gone. All of this goes away. Everything we've worked.

That's what I'm saying. I like having a job. So that's why when I described our very healthy, our very healthy, like, PG conversation that we had. Yeah, of course. Where you use all the right pronouns and stuff. Like, yeah. Yeah.

They didn't use a word that could also be a car part. Like, yeah. I know Ma would never do that. A cigarette in the UK. I don't know. is what it is. There's a little two on the notes to figure that. At least my mechanic one that's going to take a while

for people to realize it. Jesus Christ. You pretty much just said it. Do we have another voice bill, Josh? Just came in. Hey, guys, I was just calling in with some relationship question. I met a guy. We were talking for a few weeks.

We saw each other a couple of times, but it was hard to really kind of make a date. We finally had a date and we hooked up. And the next day, I thought, because he was so sweet and so, like, letting me know he had a good time talking to me and things like that, that I would just, like, match his energy to let him know that I had a fun time seeing him and being with him. And he wrote me back kind of like, oh, yeah, it was fun. And suddenly I felt like I could feel this shift. And so I'm kind of wondering, like, is that a form of game to, like, I know, I know, like, sweet talking and stuff is that, but to kind of lay it on thick to make someone feel so uncomfortable that they can, like, speak their mind. And now I'm kind of wondering, like, did I just get played?

Like, he got what he wanted. And, you know, everything was just to get me there. and like if like that's what guys do because I definitely feel like I just like I feel so thrown off by like post hookup what's going on but anything you guys can say thank you if you talked anything like that

then I would have disappeared too after I fucked and you what man we all thinking it all fucking I'm gonna just stop saying shit I go ahead no no I was thinking poor baby how old is this woman

oh no that's a girl woman did she lose her virginity without hookup no she probably was talking for a while I feel like at an early age women learned that there could be times when a guy acts like the nicest person

that he wants to like really date you and then you finally let him be and then you don't hear from them. Like, how many movies have we seen? If a nigga ask you at dinner, yo, what type of man you like? Don't tell him. That nigga will morph like the mask

into whoever the fuck you say. Yeah. Oh, I've done that plenty. I've gone right to the bathroom and wash my face came back a whole new nigga. Every time. Read a couple articles in the bathroom. Like, I know what we talk, hold the conversation.

Like, no, the Dems are out of control. Roy, I get into that. Then she go to your IG page It's a completely different guy Yeah man Sometimes you got to do what you got to do man Listen it's called game Damaris is what it's called

Niggas run game Y'all run game too You act like y'all like a nigga till y'all get that Chanel bag No Why would you act like you like him until you get the Chanel bag You're gonna want another one

Maul you're just common sense No but he ain't gonna get you another one He ain't got it like that That one sent him back a year and a half no hey baby d that once set him back like a motherfucker

kid's gonna be eating cereal for about three months and why am I buying a snowbag if I already beat yeah yeah I beat already yeah I'm not buying you Chanel bag

if I didn't be yeah if I did or didn't beat I didn't beat up the fuck out of here but back to this young lady yes it sounds like he got what he wanted don't beat yourself

up too much about it like it happens It is what it is. And, you know, just brush yourself off and get back in the game, man. That's all. Yeah, that really is what you got to do. Like, I, it'll be all right. There will be another nigga.

Now, what you do is the next time, the next date you go on, you say, hey, listen, motherfucker. The last time I did this, I gave him some pussy and he disappeared. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You let him go put it out there. That's the problem. Nobody wouldn't be real no more.

It's 2025, baby. Everybody shut the fuck up and be real. If you ain't being real, shut the fuck up. Go back into the dating pool and let them niggins know. Hey, the last nigga I gave some pussy, he started acting weird after he fucked. Do not do that. And he disappeared.

And then the next one of you niggas I give some pussy to, if you disappear, I'm calling rape. Oh. Mike. Yeah, scare these niggas, baby, D. Scare them and thinking that the cops going to show up. Niggas act right when they think the police are coming. Somebody said.

We wouldn't make it to the appetizing. Yeah, man. I think I would call rape. Yeah, nah. I mean, could there be a reason eat this a bit? Ma, I just... I'm just asking. You don't took seven ways that this.

I'm just, because we don't have enough info. Yes, yes, we do. Let's not overthink this. You got got, the game is the game. The game is lagging. But why did he just? Because she said he was cool. He probably just wanted to beat.

Because he probably just wanted to beat. You know how niggas do. Niggas are beat. Sometimes niggas think they want more. They beat and they be like, I really just wanted to beat. Like, and they lose interest.

And sometimes you want to beat you beat and you be like, damn, I think I love this bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes that is. How often has that happened to you? A few times.

Yeah. Out of all the three million times, you don't stuck your thing. I know what he said. I think I love this bitch. Exactly. I've definitely. I've definitely been in the bed with a girl like months after.

I just was like, I'm going to just hit it and that's it. And she'd be sleeping. I'm like, But she's still here. Goddamn. She's just, me and this bitch watching first 48 together. All kinds of shit.

Like, you still here? Hit my t-shirt. I plan to hit and then that was it. Like, you still, and you're cool. You're right. Look at you. My longest relationship. You actually pretty cool.

You watch the same shit I watch. You know what I'm saying? Like Kobe fan. Okay. That's a ninja cuff. I love when a nigga think he's gonna beat and leave and then he beat and fall in love. And next thing you know we're in a relationship. You haven't met my mother.

Yeah. Ninja cuff. That's how all my relationships have been. Yeah. Sometimes it happens that way. You'd be like, no, I'm just go ahead and hit it and get out of there. And then you look up and y'all don't spend four holidays together. Yeah.

That's the year. That's the year. That's the year. We got Memorial Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas. But, and Valentine's Day. Yeah. But now we leave. Josh, we leave before that.

I think we don't spend that together. Leave before or you start after. Yeah. Christmas, get the gifts. You're going to the new. Why are you, so. against Valentine's Day. Like, what is it?

Because it's another chore for me. Chocolate's that fucking expense. Okay, chocolate is that it's not. But it ain't that. Y'all want to go out. First of all,

I live in New York City. You know how hard it is to get a reservation in New York City? Not if you make it in January. You've been fucking her since September. I don't know what I want to eat in February and January, baby, D?

You want me to make a reservation for February, January 1st? No, I didn't say January 1st. You could make it January 25th. Nah, that's shit. Two weeks? You got New York. city fucked up.

Yeah, no. Niggas come to New York for Valentine's Day. Yeah, no, I don't know why they do it. And why would you want to go out on the night that everybody's going out? Like, fuck. You can't say that. Because then that means you don't want to be seen with them on the day that everybody's out with their love.

I don't want to sit in traffic. I don't want to sit in logic. You're using logic. You got to use love. But it is a half of see. Love or have you sitting in the Lincoln Tunnel on Valentine's all. No, y'all keep bringing up. Y'all keep bringing up restaurants.

There's so much other shit and things that you can do for somebody that you care about. Now, y'all can't IG that. Yeah, that's really old. Y'all want to go to the same fucking restaurant, all these they go to. I actually never want to go to a restaurant on Valentine's Day. Do not take me to a restaurant Valentine's Day. I have shit to do.

Like, what do you want to go on Valentine's Day? Do something for me. You're going to want to eat, baby, Dee. But you can do, like, for example, for a Valentine's Day, I had somebody, we ordered really expensive food in, but you got me really nice gifts. And we spent the whole day together. Like, I don't feel like you're hiding me because we didn't go out. We have common fucking sense.

But you do for him? you said what what did you do for him I got him a gift too okay what about me what about me sorry I'm sorry boy yes I'm sorry you see

you feel good now right don't you feel like a release you felt the serotonin did you feel it release did you feel it hit your brain did you feel it baby Dee yes she's saying that though but I know what the gift was

because women think pussy is a gift it was not it was not pussy it was an actual gift I spent money on I spent over $300 on it you got wax you just got expensive wax She bought that nigga a robe with his name on it. For some 100% Why is that a women go to?

I know my name. I don't need to know that this is my robe in my house. This is my house. Everything it is mine. Don't put my name on my rope. I still have in a last relationship. I got two rows my name on it. They sat.

They are still collecting dust in the house. Like I'm not wearing. I got a nice robe on my name on it. I've never worn it. I'm not a road person. Because it's like a, it's like a, it's actually a really nice road. But I feel like it's, I would have to be, I can't be in my house with that robe. Like, that's like a road where I got to be on vacation.

Because it's like so flamboyant. Like if you was to come to the crib and I had that road one baby, then you're like, the fuck he got to go on. Just like Nino Brown. Yeah, like it's like a flamboyanty. It's dope. But it's like, I got to be like on vacation really like in my, in my bag. Like, no, not I'm being extra. Like I got to know that I'm being extra.

I can't be at the home at the crib. just chilling with that on. Bringing a robe on vacation to me is kind of sick too. That's what I'm saying. You wasting a lot of suitcase space for a fucking robe. So that's why it's like I never wore it, but it's, you know, it's nice though. It's a really nice robe, though. Okay, so since we're on this subject before we wrap up, what gifts would y'all like to get

from women? Because y'all are complaining about, y'all complain women, don't get your gifts. Now you're complaining about the gift that women get y'all. So what would y'all want? What does y'all love language when it comes to gifting? What would you want from a woman? That a woman you've been seeing, let's say, six months. It's Valentine's Day.

Something that adds to the aesthetic in my crib. something that you like, oh, you use a nice plant right there. You can use a nice painting right there. You can use a nice, you know, something like that where it's like, like, yo, I like this paste right here. Just add something. Boom. Like, all right, we'll get it.

Yeah. Okay. Shit like that. Rory. Gift of silence. Rory, I'm being serious. I know you are. Be left alone for a day.

I heard those are sold out. Those are on back order. It's plummeting on the Dow right now to get that in front of. That's like that Wutang album that that That you couldn't get it It's never we're never I don't know gift wise

I don't want to steal them all's answer But definitely something for the crib is always important Maybe a new lock because I lock myself out and I go locksmith And he drilled through a lot That'd been a nice gift No you're just autistic you need the keys around your neck Like the key chain? I actually, this is the first time I ever locked myself out.

And it was because my garage- Don't you have a code for you? So usually, well, I could docks myself saying I keep my garage door open on one side, but my garage door broke. So I locked up everything like triple locked. And I was late for the airport. So when I walked out, I shut the door. I was like, fuck.

You knew it. And the way, I always have another way to get in. And all that shit was completely locked up. So I was like, well, there goes that. Drove right to it. $275 fucking dollar. Yeah, you better believe it. So you don't know what the fuck you want, but you expect women to know what you want.

Got it. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's how you guys think. We have to read your mind and know everything. So read my fucking mind. A woman will post what she wants on either IG or Twitter 50 million times throughout the year. You know exactly what the fuck that girl wants, especially a woman that's dating somebody.

The moment I date somebody, I literally become TikTok fucking shop. I don't do shit, but post shit that I want on the internet. Why? And all women do. Because I'm throwing you hints. Buy it. I don't want me hints on. social media you know how crazy I'm right here next to you okay I'm not crazy

that I'll text it to their phones too but the really important things are you send it like it's like a like if you send in like a reel or something like oh look at this yes exactly got you okay I don't know you got a vacation me that's my worst you can't even go on fucking vacation I tried to plan a vacation for us earlier we couldn't even plan a fucking vacation you can't even go on vacation no we had planned a vacation long story short Roy don't know the fuck he wants Maul wants plants and fucking ashtra. No, I would love plants.

Just something bad to the aesthetic of the crib. Just something like, I don't need, I don't know if a girl, what do you want? I just just, I never sit back and think about what do I need or what do I want. As crazy as that sounds. Like, I don't think about that. Not until it's like, I need something like, fuck, I don't have one. And then I'm like, I got to get one. Would you accept flowers from a woman?

Hell yeah. Yeah. We know you would. I would. I would. I would. I would. I would.

I would. I would. I would. I would. I would. I've given flowers to a man before he threw him in the trash. He said, what am I supposed to do at these? Terrible person.

Jesus. This isn't a gift, per se. But Kia got me an insane discount for all my new pots and pans. Like, I thought that was a nice. That's a good gift. Yeah. And some serious fucking pots and pans. I have an induction stove.

Didn't know that you can just not use any pot on that type of stove. Had no clue. Pop the whole shit. Woke up the next day. I had a whole new cookware set. in my mail room. I like shit like that. Okay.

So shit that you need. Y'all really prefer shit. And I'll even give you a compliment here. Women are smarter than men with so much stuff. If I'm just saying something in conversation, I've had women like go on Amazon and send me something that would fix the exact problem I'm having. Even if that shit was like $10 or whatever. Like that type of stuff is appreciative.

We're men. So my shower, my shit is on the floor like in the back, not getting wet. came over one day she bought me like these shower racks for inside the shower put them up I was like oh my god you know so crazy when women do shit like that yes we are thinking of you but it's like it's also making our life easier too oh no I literally only have my lufa my face wash and body wash everything else is female products in my shower I'm just like okay yeah because I like that's some I do that with gift giving find yourself smelling shit like oh sure you use women be ordered into the

You start reading like, what's that? Like, that's nice. Yeah, I'm one of those people where I buy gifts for people based on, like, when I come to your house, I'm going to need. So, for example, whenever couples get married, I'm getting them really good wine, like Tiffany wine glasses and champagne glasses. Because when I come there, that's what I'm going to use. I got that as a gift before. Yeah. Some wine, some nice wine glass.

Yeah, like, that's the type of stuff that I buy people, because I'm selfish. Yeah. I've had a woman buy me vinals before. I thought that was, like, a cool gift. Yeah, that's dope. Yeah. we'll see women now you know what to buy men apparently they don't like the robe with the name on and I'm so happy I didn't get that one to get that robe I was thinking about it but I didn't do it they don't like the robe I'm not saying we don't like it but it's just like he probably got four in the top back of the closet that you never seen so just yeah okay somebody before thought of that too just apparently they don't like the big slippers that were fucking incredible though those are always nice

what about the polo boxers and the polo t-shirts no have you out I'm not mad at them I mean you can never have too many draws as far as I'm concerned as a man you can never have too many underwear and socks so I'm not mad at that it's not an ad whatsoever but it should be you know skims for men best boxers in the world hell yeah

like but they're smoking I'm not going to lie I don't know who's in charge hey Rihanna who's in charge of Fentie's mail boxer marketing because that shit every time I open my phone they want me to buy $6 boxer I have to try the Fenty one I got to try and skims they are best best

Oh, yeah, no, the skims, the men's boxer briefs are definitely some of the favorite, my favorite box of briefs I've ever had. And we had an ad, this was before volume. I forgot what? Meundies. No, it wasn't me yundies. It was a different one. They sent us a bunch and I.

Yeah, I remember. Macwell. MacWiland. Just giving them a free fucking ad again. Great fucking draws. Like, when I did that ad, I was not, like, I was selling it because I believed in the product. I just can't, I can't do polyest underwittle.

You need cotton. I need cotton. Your booty sweat. No, but I just, that chick doesn't feel right against my skin. Like, I need cotton. I can only wear cotton breeches. I like the chicks that are allergic to latex. Yeah, I know.

Maybe, maybe that's the version of being allergic to it. You might be right. I don't know. I cannot wear polyester anything. I cannot fucking do it. Well, we can close up here. I actually do have quick advice for this woman. Don't let that deter you.

The game is the game. That is going to happen when you date. I'm not saying go out there and just, you know, keep fucking a bunch of people. But keep dating. Like not every single guy. Can we get home to Zoom Zoom room? Yeah, that'd be fun. Let's get her on the Zoom Zoom room.

Give us your email or DM. She doesn't give any information. She's super anonymous. Okay. Yeah, she probably won't want to do that anyway. And don't take it. Don't let it be a hit to your ego. Nah, it's a hit to your ego.

Mom, shut the fuck up. I'm just saying we got. You could have, you can have real. Just be men doing shit. Yeah, like you could have the best. It still hit your ego, though. You could, of course. But what I'm saying is you could have the best pussy in the world,

best personality, that nigga might have a girlfriend. You don't, you really don't know what he got going on. Oh, no, but it's still a hit to your ego because you don't know. But what I'm saying, she shouldn't internalize it so much as a hit. Agreed. Don't internalize it too much. There's nothing wrong with you. I mean, there could be.

We don't know her. But what I'm saying is get back in the game. Yeah. Go in there with a little more like, you know, more battle scars. Let us show the scars. Now show that, you know, I'm not, listen, I've been down in that road. I ain't going again. Maybe even what we were talking about earlier.

I've been in two long-term relationships where I fucked on the first night. And like you said, chick, you thought you just wanted to beat. She ended up living in your house. Like, that can also happen too in these scenarios. Yeah.

Keep dating. Keep getting out there. Keep swinging, man. Keep swinging. You know. I'm gonna tell you like Ike told Tina, keep swinging. Okay. Wow.

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