New Rory & MAL - Episode 392 | What's Tea?

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

Shout out to us for grabbing the number 9 spot on Complex's 2025 Hip-Hop Media Power Rankings. That still didn't stop us from getting honest about a few people who made it (8:24). Demaris has something to say to lames who wanna play nice in Rory and Mal's face, but act funny behind their backs (45:50). Plus, Freddie Gibbs went nuts on Alfredo 2 (54:10), the Tea App gets hacked (1:08:30), and what would Demaris would've done to see a Destiny's Child reunion? (1:16:37) # volume   ** TIMESTAMPS MAY VARY DUE TO ADVERTISEMENTSSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the top of the week? Oh, shit. What days do you think it was? I don't know, man. It's just a day, man. Every day is just blurry. The day is a day, man. I don't know what day it is.

Time is a construct. Yes. I agree with you. There you go. But we are back. We really starts on Sunday. Right. But, you know, only for Jesus.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, how are you feeling? man. I'm good. I'm good, man. How are you feeling? I'm cool. I don't know if you guys noticed we were in the office and no one said anything, which made me feel better. I have redness on my nose and right above my eye. I had an insane bacon accident yesterday. You should stay out of the kitchen. The kitchen is not your place. It's always some tragedy that happens whenever you're going to kitchen and try something. Here's the thing. When you have to cook bacon for like a whole house and once you get to like at least 15 slices of bacon,

it's just too much grease for the pan that I really have. I thought I was blind. I thought I was going to have to, I would be the Stevie Wonder podcasting. I legitimately thought I was blind. You think there's too much grease? I thought it seared my eyebrows off. You think it's too much grease for the pan versus your intestines?

Oh, they ate the bacon. I love bacon, but I didn't eat any of the bacon. After the grease shattered my entire face, I went in the room to cry. You put your bacon in the oven? No, in a pan like a fucking American. Okay. Come on. Some people put the, you know, they put the strips on the-

Well, they're communists. Yeah. It's not a bad way to make bacon, though. What does that have to do with anything? It's not American thing. I don't know. I have no idea. But other than that, the weekend was amazing.

Kicked it with family, Mara moms, everything, you know. Some regular weekend. Yeah. I went out and took my mom. and my aunt to, I guess it was dinner. It was right after brunch yesterday. He has dinner, I guess. Yeah.

It was cool. Catching up with the ladies. Love hand, you know, the gossip. You get so much gossip when you hang out with your mom. I know everybody's business. All I got to do is have it with my mom months a month. What's going on? No, no, no, what's going on?

Hey, let us know. I know everybody's business. I know who's gay. I know everything. I know all of the family business now. It's fun. But you knew who was gay. You have an idea.

But it's like when it's like confirmed by mom, it's like, okay, yeah. There's never been a family member that anyone thought wasn't gay that didn't end up being that way, which is fine because we love and support them. I'm just saying, let's not act like this was something nobody's so. Yeah. But finally not like your cousins is gay on Facebook is crazy. Like when they say that, when they come out on Facebook and say they're gay, I'm so glad. I don't know what's, my mom knows everything that's going on over there on Facebook without family. With how, like, great the gays are at celebrating, you'd think that there'd be like the way they do just.

gender reveals, you think the gays would take over, like they're coming out of the closet. Parties better. I can feel Damaris staring at me being mad right now. I am not. I am not. I'm chilling to you. Damaris had that. Listen, I'm going to tell you like this baby dear, if I see that carry on.

I'm just saying, no, no, no. If I see that. I, uh, uh, uh, no. But this is what I don't like. A, ah, ah, ah. What? A, uh, what? Nope.

What happened? And this is what I don't like because it was public information. You added. a town I'd never heard of on your own Instagram. Okay. We don't got bringing it up again. We ain't bringing it up on this podcast again. No, I'm not saying where you were.

No, not even the fact that I was gone. How was your weekend? We were just trying to get it. We said you were gone. Like, now you're back. Yeah, I know. I never left. I just, me and my suitcase stayed here the whole weekend.

But your spirit is there? No, I needed a little staycation. I watched your Instagram. Not the close friends. Your regular ass Instagram. Like where everyone can see. You all right, baby. They're everything good.

No, I think good. I just did a little staycation. That's it. All right, man, listen, all you got to give us give me the I-I. One time, I'm good. I back off.

Okay. Good to see you though, baby. Thank you. Thank you. That's all. Yeah, you know, you look refreshed. You look well rested. Yeah.

Well rested. Yeah. But your staycation here in the office was incredible. You stayed here all weekend? Yeah. Okay. That's what's up, man. I knew it felt a little homely when we walked into the scene.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I knew it felt a little homely in here. Okay. Appreciate that. After we lived. left recording on Thursday, which the episode came out on Friday. Listen, man, number nine.

Oh. Yeah. I'm, listen, bro, I'm telling you, the day just. I enjoy your, like, actual genuine reaction. Yeah, like, no, the day just. Like, no, it's actually like a pretty big deal. And mall's just like, no, I forgot. I totally forgot.

I totally slipped. Number nine. I didn't know, yeah, what the hell? Y'all were clapping at, but okay. Got it now. I'm on board. Got it. I was extremely late to pick my daughter up from daycare

on Thursday. I ran out of here. And then my phone started buzzing while I was waiting for my car at the garage. So I called Peach. I said, that fucking complex list came out. How did they slight us? That was my exact thing because I'm pessimistic.

I just just don't know. Yeah, yeah. You leave with the worst. We already knew what Tom it was. We appreciated 13 last year. That's when we made our men's with complex. That kept saying. Greatest platform. Greatest platform I've ever seen in my entire. When we were 13, I was like,

Is there anyone greater than complex? No, I don't agree that my album shouldn't have been on the top 50. Now you put it to 13 here. Like, oh, everything's cool. Black ball, what? No, it's just, yeah. So, good. I got white balls.

Yeah, so everything. So I didn't even care. But I just felt like I had this feeling in my stomach that Carisha was going to be number one this year. Let it go. Let it go. I know. It's okay. Why is it that I wanted to see where Carisha was before we were?

Like, tell me where. Carisha. Don't tell me where a new Roy and Mo is that. She didn't even have any episodes this year. I know. I figured she'd be number one. That's why he wanted to know. I was like, ooh, the puff child. They're going to be like, yo, just her influence being quiet was the number one thing. So I assumed that she was number one. She was not on the list. We ended up being at number nine. Congrats to everybody in here. Josh Pige, DeMaris, the whole entire crew, volume. Thank you for everything that you guys do. We made it to number nine, man. Yeah, man.

Top 10. Thank you. The complex for the, you know, to write up once again. What's our guy's name? Jordan. Jordan. Jordan. Thank you, Jordan.

Jordan, though. But please don't ever refer to me as the Drake Whisperer again in your life. That's all. Thank you for the lovely, lovely, everything other than that. Thank you. It was something else he said. And I was like, wait, what? Oh, let's pull it up.

We can read the entire thing. Some words that Jordan had in there. I was like, yo, wait, hold a. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Look at what happens even when you make top 10 of a list that you still have cripes. No, no, no. It was just some of the wording.

The list will never make us whole. It was some of the wording that I just didn't like. That's all. Just some of the wording. Yeah. Rory and Mall are on the rise. After debut on this is last year, they've crept into the top ten on the rise. On the rise, already.

Thanks to the fact that their platform has become more than just a place to react to music. It's now making news of its own. OVO Mall has leaned into his connections. Emerging as something of a something of a, I'm nothing of a, Drake whisperer. And by the way, you can't quote yourself. I can't, no. I'm saying, like, who called you the Drake whisper? He did. He's the only one. Oh, gosh, all right. When he casually dropped that Drake had a bomb on Iceman, the internet went into a frenzy.

He laid it clarified that it wasn't another dish, just that there was a hit coming. To their credit, Rory and Maher are in on the jokes and they find ways to have fun with their reputation. On the one-year anniversary of the Kendrick versus Drake Beef Mall went head-to-head with West Coast counterpart DJ head. I like how he did that. And a first-take-style debate with Rory Damaris got in the discussion. It was one of the most entertaining podcast episode of the year. You may not agree with all that takes. And maybe, yes, Maul takes the Ovia glazing.

That's what I didn't like. Oh, that was. I know. I was going to get something. So far, Jordan's saying nice things. It was like, great, great things. So far, I was like, what is Mom at? All right.

All right. Beautiful. Jordan Rose, beautiful write up other than that. A little too far, but props for the duo for consistently finding new and creative ways to stay entertaining. Jordan and everyone in complex. Thank you for that. Thank you, Jordan.

I think that was great. I don't know, man. As much as, like, I do appreciate this type of shit. Lists, like, don't mean that much. To you or in general? They don't validate anything, per se. Like, I think the list they put together is cool and fair, but there was plenty of people that would have left off that list

that I felt should be on there. That, like, it was cool. Like, I appreciate people even hitting me up. Like, yo, number nine is big. Like, even if you don't care about list shit, that's big. Top 10 hip-hop media. That means something. Grateful, appreciate you.

And it's great for when you have a partner-like volume. They like to see that shit. People like to see that type of stuff. But, shit, going through the list, my biggest gripe last year was that bootleg kev was not higher. He went lower this year. And I feel like bootleg kev has been smoking shit. Honestly, to be fair, I didn't look at Peach. I think I was here with Peach.

And he had pulled up the Powell Rankins. And once he showed me where we land. I really didn't look at the rest of the list honestly. So I don't know who landed where, who is or isn't on the list. But either way, you know, lists are cool. And, you know, it kind of puts things into, you know, perspective somewhat compartmentalize. And, you know, it's good to have conversations and things like that. But anybody that didn't make the list, you know, don't feel bad that you didn't.

Don't think that you're not doing the work or not doing good work because you didn't make the list. we've been left off it when I knew we should have been on it yeah it happens man it happens but that doesn't mean as counterparts we can't bring up those type of people like I feel bag fuel has been smoking shit shout out the bag fuel if you're talking about people that it's hip hop media right and I think they covered a lot of bases I think streamers that's still hip hop media and we'll get to the kai thing after this

but what bag fuel has been doing under what they said as their definition in the article how are they not in a top 25 of everything bag fuel has been doing. Gina, not being on that list, is fucking crazy to me. But the Her and Head show, it's both of them, though, correct? Yeah, but.

So did Head made the list, I'm sure. Yeah, he did. So why weren't the, both of them? But then also, Elliot made it, and here's my thing. I think Jeremy should have been on this list, because everything Jeremy has done outside of Head, Elliot, and his show, he's been smoking shit on the solo side.

I feel like more than any, went on that show. There's a, there's Jeremy clips every single week of what he's doing on his own. I think Jeremy should have been on that list. I think it was the balls on I, I-8-5 that kind of. First of all, it was just incredible show. Oh, it wasn't bars on I-8-5? Oh, sorry.

First of all, if Jeremy drove to Connecticut to get them bars off. If he left LA. I thought it was because Jeremy was on Just Incredible that, you know, they kind of kept them off the list. It was, they wasn't filling his bars. I mean, I just feel by their standards, everything he's been doing, he should have been there. Yeah, I think that, you know, again, these lists are cool and we're grateful, thank you to complex. But to anybody that didn't make it or people feel like they should be ranked higher, whatever, whatever.

Listen, man, everybody just continued doing good work, good work in the space, good work for hip hop. I think at some point another, we all need and feed off of each other in the space, you know, whether it's competitive, whether it's, you know, because we don't like each other, whether it's because we don't think that, you know, this person's work is good or whatever, whatever. So you want to kind of work harder so you can kind of get these people out the way. Whatever it may be, let's just continue to keep doing good work and keep putting hip hop first in this space that we're in because that's really what matters at the end of the day. I agree with you and I love all that positivity, but nah, I'm here for a messy mood.

Are you? Oh, okay, go ahead. messy um well no i'll start with positivity black boy max at number four i can make a case that he should be higher i love everything black boy's been doing his and his entire series of in the booth of like actually having rappers come in there and make music in real time on stream that to me is the definition of hip hop media and not streaming gossip bullshit if we're doing hip hop media you could make a case that black boy max is one or two in that regard. If we're talking about hip hop,

everything that we're doing here is for hip hop. I think he should be higher. He wasn't even on it last year, but I guess that just speaks to the year that he's had. He went from not on the list at all to number four. So I agree with that. The Kai thing is what I saw stirred up a lot of conversation. Is Kai belong number one on a streamer list?

I don't think there's anything to debate there. Numbers are real. is Kai hip-hop media. He's from the Bronx. That's hip-hop. So is Ralph Lauren. Polo's hip-hop. I mean,

Ka, but, you know, he has his things, his moments, his hip-hop moments. That's not his focus. So I can see why people may fill away at him being number one. Based off the standards

that Complex did give in the beginning again of the article, I totally understand why Kai would be there under those circumstances of launching rollouts, of having moments within hip hop. Yes, I just don't know if Kai would be deemed a hip-hop, like streamer. Yes, he has those moments and they go far greater than anything that we've ever done, numbers-wise, but is that Kai?

Hmm. Like, do people go to Kai for hip-hop? I think the audience does. I think there's some people that may go to him for hip hop. Absolutely. I think he does an incredible job of taking in hip hop to the new generation and how the young kids consume media for sure and making hip hop part of his world.

But, I mean, this isn't hate. It's actually quite the opposite. I just don't think Kai, if we're media power players, I think Kai should be up there on a Rogan list. when you're coming to that type of thing. But I don't know if Kai really came in or ever focused on it being a hip hop platform. I mean, the moments, you know,

we love to see Offset dance with him in the basement and like all that, yeah, that shit is great. Is that a hip-hop platform just because Offset happens to be a rapper? No, but that's what I'm saying. He's not just hip-hop. He has a lot of, some big hip-hop moments. You know, you listens to music on the stream,

when the albums drop, when songs drop. So, I mean, yeah, I'm not mad at Kai being number one, man. No one's, but I'm fine with him in a bit. Yeah. I love everything that Kai is doing. And then what is hip hop media? Like, of course hip hop media. That was going to be my next question.

It changes. Yes, it changes. It's not the, you know, the word up magazine. And it's not that type of thing. It's not just the source magazine type of hip hop media style anymore. Things have changed. Things are digital. Streaming is such a huge part of our culture right now and the way people receive music.

So I think this is on brand for Kai to be number one. I'm not mad at that. And I didn't know he was number one until, I think, just now, until y'all just told me that. I seriously did not look at the rest of this list. Like, I don't know who is what and where they landed. Yeah. And I mean, I guess based off their criteria is, to your point, the question I want to ask, what is hip-hop media?

Because there should never be a world where my name is above big boy's name in hip-hop media power players, ever. But if it's off the criteria of what is actually just happening, happening right now and how people are finding new ways to revamp how people consume things, then I get it. But putting this together is going to offend somebody. Yeah, somebody's going to be offended, just like I was offended. But thank you, Jordan Rose. I appreciate that. What, man? When Jordan hit me up for a picture and I'm like, what, man, what we do now?

He was like, is for the hip-hop power rank his list. You didn't even tell us that. How I found out on my way to daycare. Why would I tell y'all that? But I didn't know what number we were. He didn't tell me what number we were. He just said that he was doing the list. So why would I, I mean, I knew we eventually were going to find out what number we were.

I wasn't going to ask him what number we were. So I sent him pictures. Yo, Jordan, I sent you two pictures, man. One of them had me in it, yo. Trying to figure out why the fuck you went with the one would just roaring him all. I said in the post, I feel like you should have been right there. You don't have to. That's fine.

It's okay. I appreciate that. that, but you don't have to do that. Okay, well, I thought this would be a way more fun conversation. Never mind, guys. Thank you to Complex. Shout out to everyone on the list. Shout out to everyone that's not on the list that deserves to be there.

You know, I wanted to have fun with this, but never mind. What fun did you want to have? Joke about the shit. Come on, man. Joke about what the exact? Like, what's the joke? This ain't clickbaity shit. This is just a fact.

Angela Yee has done more by the criteria of the hip-hop media list than Charlemagne the God has in the last year. That's true. I have to agree with you. Yeah. Angerly got our own show and has been smoking shit. I love what she does with Bita. I love what she does with Meno.

She has made more moments than Charlemagne has in the hip-hop space. If you want to talk about all the controversy that happened with Jess hilarious and that entire, like their inner workings, which, you know, we started that style. Stole that from us. That's not hip-hop. To beef? That's very good. An internal. Internal beef is definitely hip-hop.

So Jesselarius and co-ho shit, that was a hip-hop moment? No. No. That was a pop culture moment, not a hip-hop moment. Okay, go through the interviews that Angela has done in the past year. And tell me what's more hip-hop media compared to what the breakfast club is, we'll go down in history as the greatest morning show of our time. Again, you only sound like a hater when you bring up facts.

Why is he there? Yeah, I mean, again, this is me finding out. Again, if it's legacy, then put Big Boy, Elliot, Angie, put all them in the top five. Like, if we're going off legacy, because Charlemagne is goaded in that regard. What did they say under his article? What did they say? He talked to neon, because neon's hip-hop. Pull up a photo of neon so Demeris and Maul can see who Neon is.

That's how they started the article of his biggest moment. Oh, sweet kid. That's how they started. Oh, he's an asshole? Oh. That's okay. Yeah, man. And I know, I know me even ranting about this is probably going to get us lower on the list next year, no matter what we do.

But, yeah, starting a Charlemagne article with everything Charlemagne has done in his career that has been monumental of, Hey, he interviewed Neon, so he's number four at the fucking hip-hop media list. Did they have a viral moment from breaking down Nokia or is that what happened? Look at the question. See, look at the questions you ask him. No, I was just wondering why that was important. And listen, to be clear, this is no shade, no hate. Again, I didn't even know who else was on a list. So I'm not mad at where anybody landed.

Shout out to everybody. But if we're just going through the year I want to have some fun. No, no, I'm having fun with you. If we going through the year, interviewing Neon on the breakfast club, there's nothing hip-hop about that. That's all.

No, but they listen to Nokia. Like, together. Offering commentary on the Diddy Trial. Some may say that's hip-hop. You know what I mean? I don't know. No. Covering the Ditty Trial is very much hip-hop media. Don't get me wrong there.

But offering commentary on the Ditty Trial. Wait, why am I dropping a spot? Because I'm transcending hip hop. That was one of the withering questions. Charlemagne posted to us last year after falling from number three to number four in our annual list. Now for the third year in a row, he drops another slot largely for a similar reason. Because he's transcending hip hop is why he's dropping on the list. Charlemagne has undoubtedly broadened his reach even more, but the expansion has arguably diluted his once hyper-focused grip on rap conversations.

that doesn't mean he no longer has a voice in hip hop, especially among the older crowd. The Breakfast Club remains a powerful force. Neon's disastrous appearance on the show has been one of the biggest storylines of the last couple of weeks. And even on an even and even an offhand comment from him can still spark debate, like when he advised Kendrick Lamar performing not like us in full at the Super Bowl. I'm sure that Kendrick was sitting there and went. That's a really good idea, Charlotte. I didn't even thought about that.

again that sounds like hate it does it's okay sometimes hate is good here all right yes charlemagne has transcended hip hop and I love that he's grown I like you're not supposed to just stay a fucking actually that's what I hate a lot about

the radio culture and the gate keep culture charlemagne's not one of those people charlemagne puts a lot of people on he's done a lot of great things for people and he took an amazing opportunity and went further with it carrying a message of hip-hop throughout it. But I hate that phrase of transcending hip-hop.

Hip-hop is the biggest thing in the world. Anytime people try to do that shit, it bothers me of like, oh, just because I don't want to fuck with hip-hop shit and I moved out. Well, why did you move away from it? You can do both. And Charmingney's getting older. He's got kids.

How old is Charlemagne now? Right? Close to 50. Yeah, I'm assuming. Which is fine. I'm not one of those people that thinks you should retire. Like, we got bills and shit. But,

why why is that a stat why is that a stat when you say it oh because i transcended hip hop no well i think he was asking is that why he dropped from number three to number four last year i don't think i don't have the tone i'm just reading context yeah i just think he was just questioning why but you know listen that happens if if him transcending hip hop is the issue then kai wouldn't be number one because kai transcends hip hop so So. Charlemagne came in. Well, let me not say that because I don't know if Charlemagne came in.

Yeah. Radio shows, but then Wendy Williams. Charlemagne, of course, is hip-hop. But I don't think Kai's brand came in the same way Charlemagne's did of hip-hop. Mm-hmm. Am I wrong there? No, I don't think so. Like, Breakfast Club is hip-hop.

Originally, yes. He came in that way. I don't know if Kai ever came. He didn't transcend hip-hop. Kai, you know, there's hip-hop moments and his stuff, but he didn't, he came in, he's a streamer. Yeah. Of course, hip-hop is going to blend with streaming, but I don't think Kai came in like a hip-hop guy like that. Am I, all right, maybe I'm bugging.

No, you're not bugging. Asking me is asking the wrong person. I don't know how Kai started. I get what you're saying. But what I'm saying somebody transcends hip-hop, it doesn't mean you originally came from hip-hop and you got bigger than hip-hop. It just means that you are. are bigger than hip-hop. Whether you started there or whether you just got there, you are bigger than hip-hop. Kai is bigger than hip-hop when it comes to music. So that's why it's like if Charlemagne is

dropping spots because he's doing more than just hip-hop, then it's not fair for Kai to be where he is, because Kai does more than just hip-hop. Yeah, fair. And that's why I think Kai and Charlemagne are different. And this entire conversation is going to look nuts because of my white face. But Charlemagne is hip-hop. You can't, you can't translate. transcend hip hop. I'm even looking up the definition to make sure I didn't misunderstand that entire thing to go beyond the range or limits of field or division. Something abstract, something conceptual. Anywhere Charlemagne goes is hip hop. He's hip hop.

Okay, I see what you're saying. I get it. Even when he did his book, which I make fun of all the time, because I thought it was the most surface-level therapy shit of all time, Charlemagne helped bring a conversation. of therapy into hip hop. That's hip hop. It comes back to hip. No matter what he does, where he goes. Even when, like, Kanye, who I adored at one point,

when he was even on his 808's run with that of like, oh, yeah, I'm getting away from the hip hop. Like, you're hip hop. No, no, you're taking hip hop and moving it forward. You're not transcending it. You're hip hop. How the fuck could you leave it? everywhere you go, you're hip-hop.

Yeah. So that's why I just don't like those type of lines, especially when now hip-hop is the biggest thing on earth. Why Charlemagne was able to transcend in the bullshit of the business that we're in is because he represented hip-hop. Yeah. And they wanted a taste of hip-hop.

You're hip-hop. I don't think there's anything bigger than hip-hop. You can think about it. In America? In the world. Soccer is hip-hop. Soccer is not hip-hip. You want to get to the origins of it?

That's hip hop, man. And they definitely lean towards the best players now, the young best players, they all are like hip hop culture. All of them. Not wrong there. So that's what I'm saying. Even hip hop has bled into that. Like them, you know, leaning, trying to like bring soccer or football to America. I think DMX was at a soccer game.

think he may have performed or something like that. Like they still want to tap into hip hop culture, even though soccer or football is probably the biggest sport in the world. They still need hip hop culture to be deemed cool or to be deemed, you know. Kendrick at the Super Bowl, Drake's about to do the FIFA shit. Like every place goes to get hip hop. You cannot transcend hip hop.

Not saying soccer is not big without hip hop. Kendrick is in the Super Bowl. Did he transcend hip hop? No, he's a hip hop artist. The Super Bowl is the biggest thing in the world. Yeah, I get which... In America. In America.

Wait, there's another world. Depends on who you ask. Depends on who you ask. Yeah. Is Drake hip hop? Absolutely. Is he not hosting fucking FIFA, whatever that deal is? Listen, I'm, again, hip-hop to me,

is the biggest culture on the planet not even close. It is what it is. It can't be transcended. No, I feel what you're saying. It's hard when you say transcended so where did you, where did you go? Like where did you, if you transitioned hip-hop Well, Rory read the definition, it means I can't be held

just to, I can't be limited just to hip-hop. But no matter, but Rory is saying is no matter what room Charlemagne walks in, who he interviews, who he, whatever he, it's still going to come back to hip-hop. Why do you think Obama sat with the breakfast club. So then y'all are, so then y'all are, you're actually going back on your original point

where you ask why does Charlemagne deserve to be five? Because does Charlemagne even do anything that's hip-hop anymore? That's what y'all just said when y'all originally started talking about it. So you can't say. Oh, no, no, they were also saying in the beginning of that it's been within the last year. And I think Charlemagne in the last year, I mean, I love what he's doing, Black Effect. And everyone seems to be happy over there. But that wasn't even mentioned in why he was on the list. what would be the moment that would put you at four? Interviewing someone that's not hip-hop?

Oh, okay. That's all I was saying. Is he at four or five? Five. Five. All right, five. Okay. And listen, no matter what, this is going to be viewed as me hating,

and I don't really care because I made sense in my fucking head. And that's the only place that matter. It's the only things. Oh, so you guys are telling me I'm crazy. Great, thanks. Yes. I mean, I mean, you tried.

But yeah, I mean, I don't think he deserves to be number five either. That's correct. But I think it is possible to transcend hip hop, to not be limited by hip hop. I think that that's very much possible. I don't know if Charlotte Maine's done it, but I think it's very much possible to not be. Who would be an example of somebody that's transcended hip-hop? Will Smith, definitely. But I think you're mistaken.

He just circled back to give up. Yeah, but he didn't need to. I think you are misunderstanding transcending as transcending doesn't mean you need nothing to do with hip you have nothing to do with hip. It just means that you're now bigger than hip. Like you're bigger than that. Your platform has grown bigger than that. Doesn't mean that you're not still hip hop or that you are not still connected to hip hop. It just means I'm bigger than that now. Drake has transcended hip hop. Is he still hip hop? Yes. But we will because we will always consider Drake. Drake is up now a pop star. He's transcended hip hop. He's not a hip hop artist. He's gotten bigger than that. I don't think that that means. that you've abandoned hip hop. It just means that's what he was saying. Like, are y'all now taking me down notches because I've now become a little bit bigger than hip hop? My platform has become bigger than hip hop. Even when Drake became the biggest pop star, you could find at minimum six records that are just completely flat out rooted in. Which is what I said to begin with, Rory, doesn't mean that you gave up on hip hop or that you stopped being hip hop. It just means that

you're now bigger than hip hop. You have gone farther than hip hop. Still connected to it, still a part of it. But see, I don't, that's, that's the, that statement is what I don't agree with. When you say he went further than hip hop. I don't even think you can't. Like, hip hop is the biggest, it is the biggest culture on the planet. It's the biggest culture, but it's not the biggest, especially when it's talking to Drake, it's not the biggest music. It's not the most important music. I think it is. Okay. I think that people take a lot from us and they use it to get bigger. I think it's the most important. But I don't think it's the biggest because we have been complaining for the past two years that hip hop can barely make number one. Before this battle, remember, that was a whole

conversation for like a year or two page where it's like, yo, are we going to have a rap number one? Are we going to have a rap number one album? Are we going to have a rap? Look at the top 10 on Billboard. It hasn't been rap. It's been pop and it's been country. Okay. You're talking straight numbers wise. I think what we're suggesting is more of an intangible of you cannot surpass the number one aura of the entire world. To the fact that Justin Bieber, who I would say is a top three pop star of our generation, his features are Gunna and Sexy Red on his pop album. You can't transcend hip hop.

Everyone goes to hip hop to get their sauce. You can't transcend it. Okay. We've agreed to disagree. He didn't go do a country album and get fucking Tim McGraw on and shit. He went and got Gunna. But that's also always been who Bieber is. Even Tim McGraw came and got Nelly.

Nelly, I think Nelly wouldn't got Tim McGrath. Ah, Tim called. He said, Nellie, God damn and Nellie, I love what you're doing over there. Love what you're doing over there in that hip hop. That hippie hop. I love what you doing with the hippity hop, Nellie.

And I mean, again, that went to a separate conversation from the complex list, and even Charlamagne, to begin with. I just, I've always hated that term. That's all. Because I've seen so many people that get success say, oh, I'm trying to just, get above what it is.

I'm like, you can't get above this. This is the hip hop is it. Yeah. There's nothing else on earth that could transcend that. Unless it's out of taxes. Very much a part of hip-hop. Very much apart of hip-hop.

Like every commercial, everyone gets their sauce from hip-hop. Every designer, you got anything from fashion. You have the clips walking in Louis Vuitton. and a song is playing about their parents dying at the snobbiest fucking event in the snobiest city of all time. How could you transcend hip hop? Yep.

Okay. Listen, I get it. And Farrell, who is now the head designer. Yeah. He's from hip-hop. They got to tap in. Rest in peace, Virgil.

He was hip-hop. They got to come to the hip-hop culture, man. Everything has to run through hip hop culture. Everything. And at one point, before they realized that, Kanye West, who was the biggest artist, couldn't even get a fucking invite until they had to keep up with the rest of the world. Oh, everyone's getting their shit from hip hop. And my bad.

Who's your man version? Oh, I didn't even, my bad. I didn't even know. Yeah. But I get it. Therapy books won't do it. Well, congrats to everybody that made the list. Congrats to everybody that did make the list, but that's still doing great work.

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Who being weird? I don't even fuck with y'all like that, but I don't like when people weird to y'all. Why are you being weird to me? Who being weird to you, DeMaris? I thought we was going to get married. When I say that, when you had your leg up. Who being weird to you, to marry? There ain't nobody being weird to me.

Niggas being weird to y'all. They said y'all was pussy. They ain't say I was paying. They said I was pussy. They said y'all was pussy. The thing about people... I want to get both y'all, y'all flowers. I've been wrong. What?

Because I did think all this shit was just content or whatever. These people is fucking straight up, straight up fucking weirdos. Like, I know everybody's weirdos. I've been in this business a long time. But yeah, the days that I have fought of like, let's just talk about this, like, who gives a fuck? Like, nobody cares about that person. It's just for funzies. y'all are right

these people are fucking like the weirdest seeming some of the best creative writers I've ever heard in my life I see why their pen game is like that because boy can you tell a fucking story so I even when this was on the list

I said to Demaris before you came usually this would be a time where I would you and I would fight about like yo let's just talk about it who gives the fuck I don't ever want to mention these motherfuckers names again

right that was the oddest oddest fucking thing I had For that. Listen, man, I'm trying to tell y'all, man. I apologize. No, listen, it's all good. I'll be trying to tell you out, man.

That's why I don't go nowhere. That's why I don't be around these people, man. Now you understand it, man. It's just weird. But that one was like extra weird. Like, we've seen the weirdest of weird before. Yeah, but that's. And it's fun.

Like, who gives a fuck? But that was just like, I was watching that. Like, yo, are you, are we in the Matrix right now? Like, do you live on Earth? Yes. We're on the simulation. Yes. For the listeners that aren't exactly clear about what we're talking about.

I'm not going to say no, I'm not saying names. I'm not saying names. I'm not giving you. No, let me tell you. I'm not giving nobody else. No more free promo. No more free promo around this bitch. Because I don't came out and said to y'all, hey, let's be unbiased about certain things.

Regardless whether y'all think that mall is biased when it comes to Drake, he's admitted his bias when it comes to Drake, that is what it is. That's his friend. That's my niggis. We let that rock, whatever. But when it comes to people who have straight shit in our mall, had little raps about mediocre raps about mall. We didn't came and gave niggas props. We don't came out here, been unbiased, judged the whole fucking,

that whole fucking New York versus West Coast battle. We came out here. We were unbiased. We gave niggas props. We linked niggas fucking disc tracks. We said, yo, go check this out. Go listen to this. All in the name of hip hop.

But for people to go on platforms and to still stand on bullshit business, tell lies about the way that certain things went down when they were interviewed, that's lame as fuck because we never had to mention you you mentioned niggas hundreds of times for attention and we never had to fucking mention you ever like let's really talk about shit niggas gave you props niggins have you a platform to talk niggas did all that and you still circled back and did some lame ass shit that's disrespectful it's corny as fuck and it tells more about you than anything you too old for shit like that niggas might not know how old you are You too fucking old for shit like that.

He lies about his age. You too old for shit like that. That shit is corny as fuck. And I'm tired of y'all sent up here. I'm tired of y'all sent up here. No, because y'all give a lot of niggas props that other niggas in this media space don't do. Y'all give platforms and spaces to smaller artists, whether y'all like them or not, whether they put little corny dizzes out about y'all or not.

And y'all don't have to fucking do that. Niggas could talk about y'all all day. Say Drake glazing shit all day, corny shit all day. But y'all are still real as fuck and give niggas props on. props is due. I swear to God the next time y'all do that shit, I'm knocking over all these black magics. We're not giving nobody else no more fucking free promo. I'm over that shit. I'm over that shit. I'm done. Welcome to my party, baby, Dee. That's all I've been trying to tell you. I didn't even mean to go off on shit. That's all I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like

you left out some fucking crazy details that would make him look even more fucking insane. Yeah, I'm not even, I'm not even going to that. You was the one on some weirdo time and we was on some always contest fun. Like he did a role reversal. he made himself us and us him i've never seen some shit like that in my life yeah that shit i hate lame and said it with a straight face that's what scary that's why i think i can't fuck with weirdo shit you said all that was such a straight face that like you're untrustworthy in the world yeah because we're silly and jokey and funny on this fucking podcast that rhetoric that people try to run with that y'all our pussy is crazy i don't even like i don't you know i talk to y'all crazy like

whatever in the streets niggas do not talk to y'all crazy i've been out with y'all when people say that they've had these run-ins with y'all and it's never ever been no crazy energy yeah but niggas start copping please to y'all every single fucking time we out and i'm about to start calling that shit out because it's not just him but but but baby d listen this is what you got and i love the y'all got me yelling and shit no no i love the energy i mean you over there but you got impanadas in the oven you got all kind of shit going on over there right now but what i'm saying is like what else is supposed to happen though that's why i don't I can't really give this too much energy because it's like I know what happens.

It's like you get on these platforms, talk reckless, whatever. You get clicks. You talk tough. I, cool. Do that. But then when we see each other, it's, nah, man, you know, so of course, what else is it going be? Of course it's just rap and it's just entertainment.

It's just because what else is going to be? It ain't going to be nothing else other than that. But my thing is like, come on, man. Like keep it a little real. That be my thing. I be thinking, I'm supposed to keep it all over real because I keep it all over real. I can't expect people to do that. But keep it at least a little real is my thing.

You ain't got to be all the way real. You ain't got to be all the way honest. But you got to be a little real. Like, at least that's what I expect from just men. Be a little honest, man. And then you don't have to be, and here's the other thing. You don't have to be, you don't have to put on this facade and this front and say these things to get, you know, clicks and views.

Just put out good shit. Put out good quality. Put out good product. You know what I mean? Put out good music. That's all you really need. All this other shit that they're telling you you need to do. No, you don't.

You don't need to do that. You don't need to go viral. You don't need to be this clickbaited person. You don't need that. You just need to put out good product. That's it. And in my opinion, if I ever talked about another man's body, I wouldn't go hug it in person.

Hey. Yo. Yo? Because I'm just curious of somebody that we never had energy for, and then you had energy. And then you hugged what you were talking about and then said, oh, next time, yo, we're New York. Let's come on the show.

Like, let's really clear up. Like, niggas diss, we say, oh, we laugh. Good job. Niggas dissed, we say, oh, all right, that's not a bad diss. Niggas dissed you like three times. Every time we said, all right, man, he's still a good rapper. Never had no fucking energy, ever. But I will say, you know, continue to put out good shit.

We'll continue to talk about it. We'll continue to cover it. It is what it is. Just in person, listen, man, save the fake phony. I'm just, I'm from a different era, a different cloth. I don't do the fake phonies. But if you put out dope product, I'll still cover it. I'm not, I'm not in that.

I'm not that type of person. Oh, no, no, no. If shit is dope, if shit is dope, if you put out product, you know, and I like it, I'm not, I'm not a hated, bro. I'll let you know, I like it. Great creative writer. But in, in person, if we shall ever cross paths again, just, you know, I don't want to, I can't handshake and show love because I don't know if that's going to turn into, you know,

something else wants another cameras in your face. So let's just keep it. You know, yeah, it's just something else. It's just like, you know, but keep putting out, you know, good shit. Good luck in your career. Good luck on whatever you got coming out. Yeah. And yeah, let's just keep it at that, man. But I'm, I can't be, I'm not with the phony fake shit. That's just not, it's not my pedigree. Um, all right, well, speaking of, uh, rappers that will actually make some impact, Freddie Gibbs, Alfredo, too. Shout out to Alfredo. Dose.

It's been three days, man. It's, it's rivaling. It's, I, nah, I, not. Don't let him get stuff. He texts me, said best out, best rapper alive, best album out. Nah, no, no, no, I text that to you before I even listen. No, but what he was a, I text that the marriage was about to say, though, what he was about to say, don't say is rivaling, rival. It's a tough word to say, right?

It's a very hard, right? Rivalringing. Rival ring. It's a very tough. Rivalring. Yes. Part one. Don't do that.

Oh, I was going to say the clips up. This would be better for the OVO thing that they said on Complex. I'm saying it's rivaling the clips, from my opinion, of rap album in the year. Of course, number two. Tyler's, of course, number one. I like Alfredo, too. I like it a lot. I listened to it over the weekend.

I lived with it, moved around with it a little bit. I don't know if it's better than the first one. But in terms of this year, so far, rap albums, it definitely is one of the best rap albums of the year. I still love her as probably off three days, my favorite rap song of the year. I'm with you. I'm not at all ready to say it's not better than one.

One has better music, but this is the highest level I've heard Freddie rap, period. Out of his whole catalog, you can say Penaena, you can say, you can say albums are better in his discography. This is the highest level of rapping I've heard him. He is like, I didn't get. I think almost some of how good he's rapping on this is why I prefer Alfredo 1. If that makes any sense. Like some of it is pulled back on Alfredo 1. He is rapping, rapping on this shit.

But that's why I think I like Alfredo 1. And it's not fair because it just came out. But just listening to Alfredo too, I don't feel like he's rapping better on this than one yet. I like Alfredo to a lot. I think what him and Freddie did was dope. I love what he said about why he locks in with a producer for a project because people love to kill me when I say that about artists, that that's what they should do. But he said it makes it more cohesive. It just feels like a better, you know.

And I love that Freddie said that. Let's look at like, Freddie's saying that like any average rapper can lock in with MADlib and Alchemist. No, no, no. He's fortunate. When he said that shit and everyone, I was like, he's fortunate and privilege enough to be locked in. No, 100%.

He's in a very fortunate. When you got MADLib and AdLib like, yo, Madlib is happy. Very fortunate and privileged to be able to lock in with producers like Madlib or Alchemist for an entire project. But he's right, though. Like, it makes it very cohesive, the sound, the center. I think that, you know, he has some of some of my favorite alchemist tracks in the last few years, without a doubt. Yeah.

What they've been able to do with these last, these Alfredo projects is hip-hop. It's the sound, the energy, the content. It's dope, man. I really enjoyed this project. Freddie Gibbs is one of my favorite rappers right now. I hate that him and, you know, my other guy, Benny, are in the space that they're in because those are two of my favorite rap. Shout out to Benny, too. Shout out to his project.

Summertime Butch. So I hate that part of it. But yeah, Freddie is, listen, man, he's staking his claim right now as one of the best emcees in the game by far. Like, I don't even think it's a conversation about Freddie's status in the game right now. He's the projects he's putting out over the last however many years. I don't think Freddie Gibbs has a whack album and his discography. I think his discography is better than a lot of your top five, top 10 MCs. I don't want to repeat ourselves, but I want Demaris to give us our flowers.

Freddie Gibbs. Freddie Gibbs is he's, and I feel like he's getting better. I feel like he's getting better as an artist. Yeah. Like I feel like he's getting better as an artist. Like he's been rapping his asshole for years. but as an artist you look at Freddie's discography

it's incredible like his albums are are damn near flawless I know it's only been three days but de Maris we're going from Penaata in 2015

to Freddie bandana Alfredo so sword separately you only die once Alfredo too Cole may need he may need to come out

and say something no no Why you can't just leave Cole out of this? Why you can't just give Freddie his props and let Cole ride his fucking bite? I'm trying to get you involved in it. Like, I want you to argue with me. There's nothing to do with Cole.

It's just because you love Cole. I haven't heard from, I haven't got a chance to listen to it yet. So I can't argue with you. I'm sure it's amazing, though. I don't know if I like it better than part one yet, though. Okay. Like Alfredo Part One is, you know, incredible. that project to me.

And, you know, to be fair, it came out. We always saw about it, pandemic. We got some of the best music that year. So we have more time to be still and kind of really live with music because all we had, what we were doing was in the house. So Alfredo One might be better just because of that. I lived with it longer. That's what I'm saying.

I don't want to say it yet. But this Alfredo 2 project is dope. Like, we have, as hip-hop consumers, it's a great year. So far, it's been amazing. It's a great year. I get, all right, we're trying to review this shit within three days. It's safe to say that Freddie Gibbs already has the best hip hop catalog of the new generation. It's easy to say, man.

Okay, what's new generation? At this point, at this point, I get it. And who's a part of the new generation? I think Kendrick, Drake, and Cole transcend hip-hop. Yeah. If we talk about hip-hop since 2015, you can put. Kendrick and Cole right there and I get it.

I'm not talking about numbers. I'm not talking about anything. You want to talk about hip hop. If you're about to tell me Freddie Gibbs is not in that conversation, then I can't have a conversation with you. You're talking about the music. Yeah, I get it.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. It's not even, like, close how he's not brought up. I get with numbers, whatever. But how he's not brought up We just talking music. Yeah, it's not even close, though. I'm with you.

I only needed three days with Alfredo 2. We can debate Alfredo 1,2 later. Yeah, yeah. But if we're talking dysography, it took three days to know like has this guy not delivered since 2015 every fucking year and I know people are going to say

well he got Alchemist Madlib yeah but he could still be you can you could fuck up an alchemist in the Mad Live track Listen is Tupac a goat Absolutely Nobody said well yes Dr. Dre Right Like what the fuck does that matter? Yeah I get it

I get it Yeah my His bad that A legendary producer saw his talent. Right. And thought that they would be a great fit for each other.

Yeah. I get it. So, I mean, to me, that's nuts. I did also love the Pouchatee and Waleigh record, damage control. Waleh also quietly has just been putting out great shit. I'm curious to see what's actually

going to make the project and what's not. Sometimes I can't figure out what's a single and what's not a single. But Walee for the last six months, everything he's put out. Wale, feel like he got to use his energy is a little. You got a chip on the shoulder.

I like that. I think you're the first podcaster to break that news. No, I'm just saying like he has like, you can like, but you can, you can hear it though in the music now. Like I can feel that energy. As a Walee stand, I have heard it since before he should have had a chip on the shoulder. Yeah. But I like that though. That's why I love him.

Yeah, you need that. You need that some time to go out there and put your foot in that in their ass and let them know, like, you know, I'm one of those dudes. So I love it, man. Shout out the Wale. Similar to what we were talking about with. graph of like the new wave and era of underground coming with Griselda and everything. Had Walee came out later with this whole thing, I still think he would have done records with Lady Gaga, still would have had records like Bad and all that. I just think he would have been

respected a bit more in that world because he was fighting in the blog era world. This world would, the same way we talk about Freddie, because I can go through Wale's catalog and say, I'll put this up with every last one of your favorites, Jay Cole, DeMaris. He's up there with me with Freddie. Like, can you, if you put up a catalog, it's a little different when you look at it song for song. Yeah.

I try to bait you. I'm sorry. It's fine. I notice now when I just. You're going to have your chance. You're going to have your chance to talk your shit, baby Dee. Cole dropping this year. It's definitely happened.

You're going to have your chance to talk your shit. You're going to have your chance to pop it. And. That's fine. I don't hope music sucks. I want a great J-C-old album. Why wouldn't I? Oh, no, yeah.

I would, absolutely. This year, so far for me, you know, we got Nick Grant. I took it personal. You got the clips. You got Alfredo 2. Happy birthday, Nick, by the way. Happy birthday, yeah. What'd you get him?

What'd you get him? You think I got him a present? You could have said gift. A present is crazy. You think I bought Nick like a present for his birthday? Yeah, maybe wrapped it and everything. If I got scotch tape out and folded it. I want to see how many niggins are the same.

Watch this. Wait, watch this. What's it? Just pause the slastic of people. Keep recording, but hold on. I want you to know how funny that is. Like, yeah, maybe he has like a favorite like fragrance candle or something. I'm going to call and just say that.

Watch, watch his response. You just said probably happy Earth today. Yo. Yo, my boy. What's good what you doing? Yo, real quick, we were recording, right? And DeMaris, we was talking about, you know, all the albums that came out this year. and, you know, I took it personal, being one of our favorites.

So, DeMaris goes, happy birthday, Nick. So I was like, yes, it's Nick's birthday. So then Rory says, did you get him? What did you get him for his birthday? And I said, you think I got Nick a present for his birthday? I just wanted to, because they don't know our relationship. How crazy would that have been? If I say, yo, Nick, go check your mailbox.

I sent you something for your birthday. Yeah, maybe like a gift card to a spa. You heard what he say? Yeah, y'all niggas in love. I ain't getting this nigga no present. We got to normalize giving our male friends gifts where they birthday, man. Get the fuck out of here with that shit, man. We ain't doing that.

Niggas is 40 years old. Nick, you could say thank you to fuck. Nick, DeMaris and you can say thank you to fuck. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you. Good looking out.

How you feeling, man? You good? Man, I'm tired as a motherfucker, boy. Yeah, we'll war your ass out, huh? Digger, boy, that shit hit me. Like a ton of bricks, I get up. I can't do that no more I can't do that shit I used to

and your birthday is about everybody else it ain't about you yeah and you got to see you got a little boy yeah it's over for you it's his yeah not for sure but go ahead go back to enjoying yourself man I'm hit you later

for sure all right for sure y'all be good man have a good show all right peace and see this is my entire point this is why men are so fucking exhausted because we have been suppressing our feel of joy forever.

Why can't we just ask and expect our male friends to get a gift? Like any type of present should come from your friend. DeMaris hit me yesterday about a female friend and said, hey, was her birthday? What'd you get her? That ain't what I said. What did you say? It's a lady friend. You cash after?

I said you sent her money on her cash app. Yeah, you did what the fuck you were supposed to do? Okay. And my thing is why Nick just said, bro, I'm exhausted. You could hear the pain in his voice. It's his birthday. And it's based off you laughing that I would say you wouldn't get your man's a gift. You wouldn't celebrate your man's.

Maybe he deserves something. Happy birthday. Yeah, no. Happy birthday, fam. You good. All right, man, later. And that's why he's so exhausted because we've been built this way. On his birthday, yeah.

Yeah, fuck that. Happy birthday, Nick, get off my phone. That's all. I'm going to get you a birthday gift, man. When I asked him if he got the birthday gift, why you bring that up, nigga, like my message and kept going. I'm like, so is that a yes? Yeah. All right.

You cash out your male friends for their birthday? It wasn't a dude. No, I'm telling them to Damaris. Depends on the friend. Depends on how close the friend is. I usually take them out. So we both can indulge. Yeah, like, I'm thinking for something.

You pick up the bill? Yeah. Okay. Damaris says for one of my birthday parties at my crib, she cooked everything. Like that, to me, that was a gift. I bought the groceries too. Oh, that's fire. Yeah, like, that's fine.

That was like a grocery and cooked. And bought a birthday cake. That's fire. Now that's fire. cooked my favorite stuff like yeah that to me that was like yeah that's fire a real friend birthday gift in my yeah yeah that's fire i respect that that was love right there that i feel like that bought me like 10 years like yeah she a dope friend he ain't seen me on a birthday since yeah yeah oh you one of those i'm this nigga this birthday let this pa let just roll over

let this roll over the next three birthdays i respect that yeah well i mean shit my last my 35th i went to Detroit so nobody can do anything. I prayed for you. Oh yeah, you was working on your birthday. Last few birthdays. You don't love ourselves enough. That's, I could hear the exhaustion. You had a pain in his voice.

And I know for a fact, because he has a kid, today was about everybody but him. I know what it was. Like, hey, how about we do everything that you're going to have to pay for and take it, like, because if you say, yo, how about like just for today, you leave me the fuck alone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, you're a piece of shit if you do that. Yeah, you look insane. But speaking of the girl whose birthday just passed,

this is the girl that put me on to the T app. She put me and Demaris onto the T app. I keep hearing about this T app shit. So, here's the thing. What is this T app? A couple months ago, right, I was trying to figure out if a man that I was entertaining was gay or if he was a serial.

Is that the one you showed me a picture of and I said, yeah, he's gay? Yes. Okay. I was trying to figure out if he was gay or a se. serial killer because he was too perfect. Something had to be wrong. Yeah, definitely gay. So I was talking to her and she was like, well, have you heard of a T-F?

I'm like, no, she's like, you know, they go on there. And what she painted to me as it's like, they'll tell you if, like, a man is, if he's, if you should stay away from him, like, if he's a rapist or if he's like a murderer or a killer or he's creepy, like, it'll tell you that. They would know if he was a killer? Yeah. Okay. Red flag.

He just came home. No, for real. One of the people on there, it's like he just came home for murder and his wife. He got time served. Like, shit like that. So I'm like, he got time served. Okay. Got to meet his lawyer.

Yeah. Go ahead. So I'm like, so that's what it was painted to as, painted to me as. So I'm like, okay, this is such a great app. Like, like, a war on women against, like, horrible men and stuff like this. Now, over the weekend, it blew up and was like, people were on there like, yeah, girl, he got a girlfriend. He'd be cheated on his girlfriend. His dick whack.

Tamara, just slow down because I want you to get there. But don't act like me and you did not search my name, mall's name. We did. Everybody we fucking knew his name. She showed us that T-Up. You're not on there. We are not on that T-A app whatsoever.

One of our homies is, though. Yeah, there was somebody who was on there. I was like, damn. One of our homies is on there. Not for, like, doing no foul rapy shit. They just say he keeps cheating on his girlfriend. That shit ain't right. Oh, that's man shit.

But go ahead. But yes. Once this girl introduced Demaris and I, this app. We searched Peage. Imagine searching Peage. Josh. Was Josh worked for us? We found. We didn't find I'm sorry. We searched for you. We didn't find you. I'm sorry.

Did we? Because maybe we should double check. So wait. This app is for just for women all over the world? Country. All over the country. No, you can put a zip code, a whole area. Like she shares her location with that app. So she could just hit her location and show. Okay. Okay. People in the area. Gotcha.

It's like Dick Yelp. Okay. More or less. But it wasn't. originally for that. It was originally supposed to be. I mean, I don't know if T. App will say this, but same way, Onlyfans. A lot of that had to do with certain women and sex work and things like that to make sure whatever you're doing is safe with the people that you're meeting up with. Got you. Okay. So then it spread. Okay. And DeMaris, you can take it from here after that breach. I just want to make it clear. Yeah. He was squeaky clean on that shit. And anything after this will 1,000% because we talked about. Yeah. They,

they started just, it stopped becoming about safety. It started just becoming about gossip, quote-unquote gossip. And so it blew up, niggas was getting mad. They were like, what if we did this for women? Ah, y'all do. It was called group chats. But they were just so, everybody was so angry because people were, you know, exposing like, oh, I went on a date with him and his dick was whack or he's hairy or his butt

stinks. Like, it was just shit like that. Ha ha! Ha ha! That's what they on this app talking about. Yes. And they can give you, people can give you red flags or green flags, yada, yada. So yeah, it spread all over the internet.

So you got to put like a picture of your face, like your profile? Yeah, they put a picture of your face. There was a huge data breach where so some people, I guess, were uploading their license. Because when you, when you sign up, you have to verify that they need a record of you being who you are, right? So for example, when I signed up a couple months ago to find out if that man was a murderer, I used my photo. I didn't use my ID. Some people were using their ID and then there was a data breach. So then all of those people's IDs and selfies became public. When the app is actually supposed to delete them the moment they have them, but you know the moment you take them or whatever and they verify, but you know that doesn't ever work out like that. So huge data breach. Everybody's like, ah, that's what you get. Y'all are fucking stupid for signing up to this app. And I'm just like if the app was being used for what it was originally created for, I understand why an app like that exists. And I'm grateful that an app like that exists. But, To make it just about, like, personal, like, stupid shit, it just...

Shit, when we were looking on the app with her, all of that shit was legitimately about, like, whether that man was safe or not. Like, it wasn't on somebody else dick was whack or, like, and it was really about safety. So once that shit, because how long ago do you think that was? That she showed us that app. That was a couple months ago. Seven years ago? It's always seven years, girl.

You know that. Seven. No, but it was a couple months ago. Top of you. It's okay. You can tell the truth on my I don't care Unless you're trying to

Right before the pandemic Top of June Top of June Okay Yeah when we were looking at that I mean whatever her settings were Were just for safety Yeah

Because once I saw this shit go off I was like oh that was the app That Shorty showed us So is there an app like this For guys like so we can know The women that We would get arrested if we had an app like that Why

Because double standards exist That I agree with That's true Rob me Yeah Yeah But I'm saying we men couldn't have that app. We would never be allowed to have that app.

But that is so crazy. Women do crazy shit too. No, I agree. No, I think men should be able to have their T app. I'm just saying in this society, we would get smoked for having that app. I mean, to be fair, women are getting smoked for having that app right now too. Well, also the irony. For having the T app?

Yeah. The also irony of the entire thing, because I don't really agree with how that app ended up being, because it ended up being gossip shit. but it is kind of funny that a T-app designed to protect women ended up having all of their addresses out there. Jesus, fuck. That was the irony of the entire thing. Because all the women that used their IDs, their addresses were there.

Yeah, that's fucked up. But it turned into some gossipy shit. Like, listen, Dick Yelp was fucked up. But at least it was called Dick Yelp. We knew what type of time it was. The T-Ap was really started to help and protect women. Yeah. they was wrong for put me on that app.

They said incredible things about you. That was crazy. Do you remember the things they said about me? No, it was fucked up what they put me on it. They said I used the hard ER and tried to do slave cosplay with her. Oh, it's fucked up that everyone found out that you're a huge dick and you're a great lover. Oh, God, oh my God. Oh, you poor guy.

They said that I do slave cosplay. And the only way I can fuck is if I use the hard E.R. when I'm fucking... You poor gentleman. I'm so sorry that that happened to you. Oh shit. I forgot they said that about you, Roe. Damn, man, my bad. That's the only thing on dick y'allpa had.

Oh, damn, my bad, bro. I forgot about that. How do you do slave cosplay exactly, Rory? Because I'm a history book. He dresses up like Leonardo DiCaprio and the Django. Really into history. And she didn't realize that if we continued on with it,

everyone was going to be free. Everybody. Like, no, we have to continue. She didn't let the story go on longer. All right, please. It starts out bad, but it ends in the beautiful way. It ends with Junete. All right, all right, okay.

It ends on June. You're not about to tell on Dick Yelp, it's okay if somebody makes up some shit that I'm doing slain cosplay. It's the R.E.R. Now I can't joke about the shit. It ends on June teeth. That's where it ends on June teeth is when the story is.

Shand me just some real historical. Yeah, no, they didn't see your vision, man. They didn't see your vision. Oh my God. Holy shit. That's hilarious. All right. Is there anything before we do get to voicemails?

Is there anything we need to cover here? Anything music? Oh, Destiny's Child Reunion. I don't want to talk about it. Why? I kind of don't either, man. Why? Because I would have spent my last dollar to fly to Vegas to go see that shit.

I would have to be for that. Add me to the T-A. What's funny? Yo, DeMaris, I would have so... You would have sold cat for that. some tickets right there? Yo, man. I can do it in Vegas, I can go see the cowboy car tour.

Hove can come out and then Destiny's Child can come out. That's crazy. Shibuzi too. Damn, that's a hell of the show. She really showed her flaky, light-skinned ass with that one. That's crazy. I know they film everything. If that show specifically is not like a Netflix special, I'm going to be type.

I need to see that full show. Here's the crazy question. Was it like the first Destiny's Child? No, it was it was it was it was the trio it was Charlie's Angels It was the Charlie's Angels okay All right You think it was all of them You think it was all five

No I'm just saying you never know You never know what those women are in their life right now I think there were six total members of Destiny Shop Like six like everybody who's ever claimed to be a part of Destiny Shout is six of them Kelly Michelle wasn't original right no Beyonce Kelly Kelly Kelly Latavia Latoya

That was the original Fallon or Farron. Farron. Farrah. Oh shit. Ferra. That was her name. Sorry, Farrah.

You could get your luggage. They could ship your luggage. That was said to Latoya, right? That was said to Farah. And then Michelle. Mm-hmm. So there were, I think, six original. I mean, Latoya Luggets been the only, like, vocal one about the entire thing, though, right?

No. I don't know if I've seen, like, a Latavia or Farah interview. I mean, but Farah was only there for, like, 10 months, though. Yeah, she was. quick. They tried something. She's pretty. You know, she might be fit this study. You know I'm beehive, right? You know, like, I'll beauntle to me is the goat. Right. If somebody ever said to my face, we could ship your luggage. But how am I going got no luggage? I mean, they can ship your luggage. Every camera in the shit is going to.

They wanted her ass out that studio. Oh my God. That's- I'm flipping over the soundboard. We could ship your luggage. I mean, sometimes you got to ship luggage. Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce, She said she was a child at that time too. I'm not judging them in that, but I would have lost my shit if somebody would have said. She didn't give New York or Houston nothing. But Vegas and Atlanta, you decided to give them something. Fuck them. You're not seeing the bigger play.

Gamble Tom. I guess. I guess. Shout out to hit boy, who is now out of his fucked up contract that he was in since he was probably 18 years old. Jay, Jay Z had a lot to do with helping him get out of that contract. So shout out to hit boy for, you know, that finally happening for him. I know how much that was fucking with him in his career. It was a great moment at the Vegas show as well.

Yeah. Someone he called hit boy just seeing a hove and ran over. Yeah. Like, yo, thank you. Yeah. So you got to put the good stories, the great stories out about Jay that, you know, people try to try to keep stifled and, you know, make up bullshit stories about Jay. but those are the stories that matter, the real stories,

the stories that you can see and see people talk about and hear people talk about and thank him for the things that he's done for them. So shout out the hit boy, man. Yeah. Oh shit, before we get to voicemails, did you do this intentionally? The Central C and Drake record that I said I loved came out. I mean, I try not to, man. You know, it's just, you know.

I try not to bring up the obvious, man. You know what I mean? But listen, man, we're here. fuck it let's talk about it um i've enjoyed how he's he's done these streams do we think that they're actually like live streams they are live streams okay well that's a very dope content that's that's something that maybe we were doing a live stream and we shot this already and we're putting it here no no no so that's that's one thing that i think you know people don't realize it's it's a continuous shot um for the last one to uh which one record uh with drake and

Central Seed. All of that you're seeing is literally, you know, like 13, 12 to 13 different setups. Yeah. Drake has to literally, after one shot has done, he's running to another shot, getting in the car, driving up the block to a bath house, hopping out, going to the train station. Oh, no, I mean, I watched the, I watched both of them in real time. I just wasn't sure if this was something that was really shot before. No, it's literally shot. It's live stream. Okay. So, you know, I think, I think what Drake is doing is, is amazing with this. The way he's doing this. It's my belief, again, I don't know for sure, it's my belief that all of this ties into one big thing at the end of it.

Like an album called Iceman? Well, no, well, obviously that. But I mean, like, it's like the way everything is, it's a story behind the album. Oh, yeah, no, I think so as well. You know what I mean? So, I just, I think it's dope. The locations, he's just, even though he was already in Europe for that entire thing. Yeah, I think how he's even shot these things is, it means something.

It's dope. Like I said, off the wireless. shit, I think which one is a fire? I think it debuted at number seven. I don't even, I don't care. No, I know you don't care. It's just a cool record to me. But for Central C, it's his first record in the top ten.

Really? Yeah, that's big fan. Oh, shit. Well, congrats is that true. That's great. I like his verse on there. I wish they would have, with the beat switch. That beat in the elevator.

Maybe a little earlier. That boy won the track. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we need that. We need that.

Damn, it's so hard not to talk about shit. But yeah, man, we need that, man. We need that. I mean, not that it matters now because no matter what the internet is going to pick sides on it. Was it a misstep of doing the Pinocchio thing? Because I do understand what he was saying. He's trying to run away from the liar and he's got a bag, which probably has all the secrets and this and that. But that could also be insurperative of like, are you running away from your lives?

Like having Pinocchio run around in the same tree as Kendrick. Or it's just, you know, lies, lies chasing me. Okay. Yeah, no, I get the concept. Yeah, lies chasing, chase me with these lies. You're giving ammo to a whole, a whole platform that is trying to take you down with that type of shit. So, I think how this has been shot and how cool this idea is, why focus more on it? Like, I mean, it's a little Easter egg.

It's not, you know. My real question, I know we're supposed to do serious hip-hop shit here. Who do you think they cast it to be the Pinocchio? Like, who dressed up that? Like, I want to meet that person. I don't care about, I don't want to interview Drake. I want to interview the guy that dressed up like Pinocchio and ran after Drake. The whole time I was like, because that guy had to, especially if it's really live stream.

Yeah. He had to like rehearse that. Yeah. So he dressed up that way. Yeah. And then ran in a London street. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Record is dope, though. I like that record. You like that record, baby D? I've heard a little bit from you guys like, playing it in here like peach i think played it earlier today when he was playing plege played every single graduation song that existed today i'm not even going to get into his playlist no if that was played at graduations that's a sick-ass graduation he played every record that was supposed to be a motivational kid record and it was yeah i didn't even catch his DJ set until the third one and

nah i know i can came on a set oh i see what you're trying to do right now yeah yeah yeah he played like i don't know what he was doing but he played it earlier and i was like okay my hips are moving like a little bit like, okay, what's up? But I haven't taken the time to sit and listen to. I haven't been listening to the music lately, y'all. What you've been listening to? What you've been doing? You said what?

What you've been doing? I've been talking to myself a lot lately. I don't know if I'm like manic, but I've been like talking to myself a lot. What have you been saying? I just be, I'd be like, yo, they think you pussy. Like a lot of, like, it's a lot. Like, I don't know. Josh, you cool?

Baby Dee, what you going through? You in the crib? You know, imagine baby she had to sing washing this and shit she put the plate there like, nah, they think I'm pussy. I swear to. What you talk?

Who are you talking about? Who think you pussy, baby, dude? I feel like people just be thinking I'm pussy. I don't know. Who are you talking about? Sometimes when people like go to say shit to me and like you ever catch a tone, you like, oh, fuck you.

Like, I haven't slapped this shit out of nobody in a long time and I feel like because of that, I don't know, like people are questioned to my ability and my willingness to do it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's why I want to apologize to my listeners for the vigor and my yelling earlier.

Like, I didn't even, like, I didn't even want to come to y'all. That ain't even you, right? Yeah, that ain't you. That ain't even, you know what I'm saying? It can be, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I told the truth. Exactly.

I don't, I don't lie. But, you know. So there we are. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I've been feeling shit. But when you talk to yourself, do you answer? I'll say something like, I feel like they, a new niggas think I'm pussy and they'd be like,

nah, niggas don't think I'm pussy. But I don't know. Marries you tripping. Like sometimes you got to talk yourself off the ledge. I don't know. But I need to listen to more music. I'll go put on Alfredo too today. I'll listen to that.

But that might put me in a different move. You know what type of time here on? You might go outside and put some bitches on the blade. Get that money. That's the type of time I need to be on. So I'll listen. Get that money, baby. I like the other thing that I'm pussy.

I love it. I'm pushing. Let me put that out there. What camera am I, Pete? I am pussy. I'm a taxman. I'm putting that on camera. I am pussy.

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Today's voicemails are sponsored by Roe. You cannot spell Rory without the Roe. Josh, what do we have? He's from Austin, Texas, Ripley. Yo, so me and my wife just recently found out that we have a really close friend and she's always so nice. You know, we support her, all this stuff. But we found out at a baby child recently that she was talking behind her back saying

that our second baby wasn't planned, this and that and talking to other people about just our relationship and stuff. But I've never seen this coming from her. Like, she's always been so sweet to us, like, supports us. Like, how do you handle it? Like, do you bring that up to her or, like, do you just cut people off? Like, you know, because I'm at that age where I just don't have time and energy to be, like, talking, discussing about that.

but why do you think people talk about our relationship behind our back when they show all this stuff, how they support us in face-to-face, you know? Baby, D, let me know how you would respond. What's wrong if the, especially the second baby wasn't playing? Who cares of? Yeah, I could see like the first one, but the second one? What's wrong with that? My thing is, is, who's the information?

information coming from. My next thing. I'd like to know how do you guys find this out? Right. Like, because who even came, who even decided to bring that into your life? Like, you're having a baby, you're happy, you're in a healthy relationship. Who's the person that decided to come and be like, hey, here's a little bit of drama to add to the recap of your, because I don't really trust that person because somebody could

say that your second baby wasn't planned and not say it in a malicious way. So that's why it's like, if this person has only been known to be a good person to you, who is this information coming from and why did they feel didn't bring it to you? That's why I would I also think there's more to the second baby

wasn't planned thing. Like, I just think there's more to that story and that's how they know that that that bitch said that because she was the only one that knew the information about it. But usually, I don't know,

is it the New Yorker and all of us? We don't trust any nice people and I still stick with that. Those always be the ones that be shady talk about your back. Those fucking nice in your face supportive ass people. Not always. Usually. I bet she goes to church. I can guarantee that that woman goes to church.

Without a doubt, that is a church-going woman that has supported that couple. Those are the most judgmental people. 100%. Yeah. So I can guarantee, probably goes to Joel Olstein's church. They're in Texas, right? Yeah, she probably goes to that scam. She's probably flown on his jet from Dallas to Austin. Okay. Through the ozone. Just wasting up gas. In the Lord's name, though, he had to get there to preach the word. I mean, I wouldn't say confront her, but ask her. Someone said this, even going to a positive. I don't think you would say some shit like that, but this is what someone told me.

Did you say it? That's how you would leave with it? I don't think you would say this, but somebody told me you said this. She's shady, so I got to leave with shade. That's a good way to lead into it. I don't believe you said this, but they're saying you said this. Yeah. I'm hearing you said this.

But no, I get that you're at the age that, yeah, I'm not going back and forth for people. Like, it's easier just to cut off. But if that's somebody that you consider it a friend, yeah, talk to them. Maybe they didn't say that shit. Maybe the person that brought you the information is a weirdo. Mm-hmm. Could be that. Yeah.

That's what I'm thinking. Because even if somebody did say that to me, I'm not bringing that to my friends at a time where, like, they're celebrating, like, their happiness. Like, that's drama. Why are you bringing drama to my doorstep? You seem like you want drama. Yeah, but I'd still want my friend to say that because I don't know if I want that person around my kid if they're talking shit about my kid. I mean, but they're not talking shit about your kid. They're talking shit about you.

By proxy, it's, it's, it's sort of there. I hate when people do that. Like, you're talking shit about my kid. I said you don't feed your kid. I'm not talking shit about your kid. Wait, all right. Talking shit about shit. No, I'm talking shit about you.

Like, oh, you said my kid, like, is in, like, a poor public school. I'm not talking shit about your kid. I'm talking shit about you. You are the one that happened at shitty school with the shitty graduation rate. Like, I hate when people say that. Like, I'm talking about my kid. Like, you make me seem like an animal. Like, I'm talking about your kid.

I'm not talking about you. But yeah, I get what you're saying. I would confront, too, honestly. or I mean look at your wife and say I stay out of women's business you handle it wait

no I thought we're supposed to stay out of women's business though no we are I thought that was the whole that's just not a good way to go by okay yeah did I tell you guys on mic

of how I already fucked up at daycare with with Amar's teachers they're all very nice you know they give like give you the rundown of the day how everything went they said

Amar kicked a kid in the face. Nice. And without even hesitant, like, just blurted out, didn't even think in my head. I said, what they could do? Mm-hmm. When I say, those two teachers looked at me with such disgust. It's a valid question.

Like, and I caught, after I said it, like, I caught myself, like, why did I just say that out loud? Yes, we'll work on it with Amara. But what did he do? They were doing the sensory thing, and I don't know, Mara wanted to put her hand in the sand. So it wasn't intentional. No, no, a kid wouldn't let her and then just kicked him. That's valid. That's valid.

But you're not allowed to say that at a daycare. It's 2025. They'll alienate me from the daycare group chat. Yeah, you want, I bet they're lesbians. You want to see a group of fucking losers. A bunch of men on a Saturday just running down what they're doing for the day. I don't even know what these fathers look like. But we're just all in a, yeah, we're in like a WhatsApp group me.

All the parents that go to the stakeer. Is that for, like, if the kids or something happens, we just, like, the parents know each other. Yeah. And, like, you know, sometimes there'll be birthdays or, like, kids that get along. And then they just throw shit in the group chat, too. I'm not calling them losers. I'm saying we're all losers. Like, if I have a sale at Old Navy, I'm putting it in that group chat.

Like, I'm telling them, go there now. That's a new thing, though, putting all the parents in a group chat. Yeah, I was thrown off. I was, like, the last one in the group. Yeah. But, you know. And then what if you decide to leave? Does it just says Rory left the chat?

Probably, yeah. Yeah, that happens on what's up. Yeah, Rory left the group. But, like, you'd have to figure out why somebody left. Like, did you leave parenthood? Like, why did you leave? I just don't want to talk to y'all. I don't want to talk to you.

But not, like, I see you and your kid at daycare. Yeah. Like, you're still at his daycare. You're still a dad. See me at daycare. I don't want to talk to you on a Saturday on a Sunday. See me at daycare. My kid kicked your kid.

We'll talk about it Monday. Yeah. And I felt like they were snitching. Why? Like, that's, that's daycare business. Hold that down. That's true. Like, yeah. Look what you're teaching them. Yeah. Nobody likes to tell us. It's good that Amara is, you know, showing that assertiveness. Like, yo, don't tell me what I can and can't do. Take this size three to the face. And I think it's nice of Amaro. How'd you know her size? I do appreciate that when she does push, she says push before. It's like, you know it's coming. Oh, she'll go push and then she'll go. Oh, she's a warning.

That's a warning. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, she's calling off her moves. Giving all the kids a chance. Look. I'm giving you the opportunity to prepare for it. It's like mortal combat and shit. Like, you get your catchphrase before you know the move is coming. Listen, man, you're doing a great job, man.

Teaching her well. Was the Scorpion? He said, get over here. Get over here. He gave you a shot to run. Either you jump or duck. Either way it's happening. Like, either way it's happening.

What was the street fighter shit? Cadogan or what was that? Hadukin? Yeah, come on. You knew what the- It was coming. You knew the Hadoquen was coming. Yeah, that's, that's...

That's push. Yeah. But, I mean, apparently you're a bad parent. I was victim blaming, is what I was doing. Yes, it's okay. But, you know. Good job, Amar. And, I mean, she was wearing crocs.

And it was a boy. Were there in sport mode? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That hurts. Yeah. You get that heel? And Amar, for some reason, likes to wear her crocs on opposite.

feet. I don't know if it gives her more like leverage with the kick, but turn corners pretty well. Imagine walking at daycare. You just see Amar hit a corner. Yeah, in the wrong feet, get that corner really well. Yeah. Like the S-Bs? Yeah, exactly. Well, anyways, do you have any advice for this gentleman besides stay at a women's business? No, that's the safest advice. That's probably the most helpful advice. Yeah, let this lady hand. handle it. I'm with you. He can't do nothing with that. Let his lady handle it.

Josh, do you have any more voicemails or is that it? I said, What's going on y'all? Showing the air from. Shaw in North Carolina. Make sure y'all come back when y'all get a chance, man. We fuck with y'all. So I'm going to get straight to the point. I know my last question was kind of crazy or whatnot. Maybe we couldn't relate, but maybe this one might hit a little bit home and help me work through the situation. So I started talking to this woman in January. She was in an abusive relationship. We've been together for about six months now.

And I've done everything to make sure she feel loved. I don't want the baby daddy ass. Shout her out of the situation and stuff. Things are supposed to be good now. But she keep on underappreciating me. And I feel like as times, she got more comfortable. She got more comfortable with disrespect. me, and that's really, like, my biggest thing.

Like, everything else is kind of good with her, but, like, the disrespect and feeling unappreciated is kind of where I draw the line, and I feel like she got, like, a warp sense of reality. She liked to use the term undelivered times, and the merits, I heard what you're saying, but baby, I don't make $150K, but I made pretty close. And the six months I don't been with her just on our cash yet, I don't send her over $14,000. No cap. Like, I could call me.

I can show you this shit. So basically my question is, is, am I under delivering? Do I need to step my shit up or should I just let this person go and they was just using me to get off? So basically, you fully understand. Yeah. Maybe I think that's what I. I think that's what I. I think that's what I'm going to be able to point.

All right. Listen, it's a real thing. It's a real thing. Let's relax. It's a real thing. Let's calm the fuck down. Everything was bleaked out. No one knows what we even just said.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, leave. Yeah, that's the same. Yeah, I don't even like, I don't know if we have to overthink this one. Yeah. If you don't feel appreciative, feel like she's disrespecting you. Leave. I almost caught a charge over this chick.

That cat must be good. Yeah. Maw. Niggas go through all of that. They send them money and now they call in voicemails. Ma. He need us to tell you, a cat good, man. He called it.

He leaving a voicemail trying to figure. Yeah. If I'm sending a woman $14,000 in the year of cash app, just, you know, whatever. Help out with her bills, whatever. Six months. Help out with her bills, things like that, whatever. And then I got to beat her baby daddy's ass because he disrespecting her. And now I'm calling seeing what I should do. Like, did he calling us to see what that cat is good, man? Because he don't want to leave. He don't.

He don't want to leave. Like, he just, he wants to see if he tripping or not. So he's calling us to Steve. He knows he's true. Yeah, he's calling us a CEO. Am I tripping? Well, yes, you're tripping. But if the cat is as good as it seems, it is, then, you know, I understand why you tripping.

And a 14K in Charlotte, that's like a down payment on a mansion. That's a lot of fucking money in Charlotte. Yeah, Charlotte. Charlotte's not as interesting of New York. Charlotte is getting up there, baby. It ain't cheap no money. All right, but if you're like 30 minutes outside of Charlotte, you could definitely buy, like a two family.

for 14th, right. Absolutely. I feel like you should check her firmly. Don't put your hands on her, obviously, but check her firmly. What's a firm check? A firm sit down to y'all. I can leave and you can be right here.

Or you could go back to you can leave me. I can leave you and you go back to what the fuck you had before. But I'm not going to deal with you talking to me like this. I'm not going to deal with you being unappreciative of the shit that I do for you. Say it just like that. And if she doesn't respond well to that or change her behavior, go and get the fuck. But I think that you should check her because she might think because you're not mopping the floor with her and knock her head between the washer and dryer that she can skate on you. And usually if you put your foot down, like shit will change.

But if you don't, then just leave. If she don't respond, just leave. But I can tell you really, really like her. So give her a chance to communicate how you feel, like really communicate firmly, not. Like sometimes you'll communicate shit and it'll like people will brush past. because they don't know how serious you are about it. They don't know how close to leaving you are. But, man, I put your fucking foot down.

And if she still step on that bitch, take that same foot, put it in a shoe, and walk out the fucking door. Man, a few months in and she's already being disrespectful, not appreciating you. Do you think it's going to change? Not in three years, she'll respect me. Yeah. Like, this early into relationship,

let's say they were together for three years and then it got a little weird. You can work on that because there's an example of this working before. six months in this shit not work and leave like cut your losses cat too good fucking you've been to charlotte north carolina she's the only one that has good pussy in charlotte north carolina because i can assure you that that's not the case maybe he like her for more than just her pussy first of all let's not reduce her down he likes her because she disrespects him and doesn't appreciate him no obviously he before she started doing that he liked her for something

else like he obviously likes her he like the pussy he likes her he like the pussy i mean she's pretty she's cool you know what I'm saying? They get along and now that they're six months in and he had to beat the baby daddy's ass and he's sending her money to help with her bills and things like that. Now he's he is on the voicemails, trying to figure it out.

If the pussy, if the cat wasn't good, he would be gone. I'm not saying that the cat isn't good. I'm saying let's not reduce women like women. Let's not just reduce it down to them only liking them for their pussy. No, we're saying he only likes her for. How do you know that? Because he's being disrespected,

gave him 14 grand, almost caught a fucking misdemeanor charge. It's mad bitches with green. personalities that can be disrespectful. That means nothing. Like you can have a great personality and still be disrespectful. There's duality here. That's true. Like I'm sure he likes her for other things other than her pussy and her just being shitty to him. I don't think that that's it. Um, it helps though. When the cat good, you overlook a lot of that shit. You overlook a lot of disrespect when you know that cat good. Like damn, she's playing. She's talking crazy to me. I'm not letting

Demers get this off. Well, when a man is in an awful situation, what is the only thing that usually keeps in there. She's funny. Nah, that never kept me. Yeah, that never kept me. That pussy is great. Yeah, that kept me. Yeah. That warm cat on a fall night. You sit in there and you're like, she don't even mean that disrespect for sure.

Yeah. She just in one of those moods today. Nah, if the cat, too good, you start saying shit about yourself. Like, you know what? I do be tripping. I do be in here kind of tripping sometimes. But if it ain't, you like, I'm out. Like, I ain't got to do this.

Same with women, though. Like, y'all leave. Y'all, like, you know what? Like, I'm out of here. Like, I'm not dealing with this. Like, if it ain't good, I'm out. All right. Let's say, you beat the brakes off your girls' baby father.

Like, in a very heroic movie like Texas, Walker, Ranger, whatever that guy. Like, everything you throw just lands. Yeah, like, it was one of those. Like, you even surprised yourself, it went that well. Yeah. How would you want to be appreciative that minute afterwards? Like, what should she be doing for you that evening?

Hmm. Red Lobster No Because don't give me the same head You gave me before I beat your baby father up We have to figure something else out Red Lobster got crab boils now though Ma'am

See? I don't want that shit It's owned by a young black entrepreneur now No shout-offs to him He's doing a great job but yeah I don't want that Cool Yeah maybe a threesome That seems right

Yeah If I beat your baby that ass, you call your cute friend over here, the one that keep coming over here on Sundays unannounced while I'm here trying to sleep. Because that's how easy it usually is, right? Cute friends hit her up. I've been waiting for you guys to call me the fuck. Yeah, you keep coming over here Sunday. You keep coming over here early on Sundays.

Why you keep coming over here early on Sundays? Why are you at 11.30 on a Sunday? And we didn't here sleep. She coming home from church. You come in here from church? You come in my house from church. Yeah, y'all got good snack. I got a snack in here for you. you come in this bedroom and get this snack

come come dunkeroo come munch this lunch come get this Dunkeroo is for you old as fuck by the way Like you really just exposed to Yeah go get this dunkeroo It's 11 30 on the Sunday You keep coming to my house now we ain't doing that The game not even on yet

Why are you in my house? She was respecting that you could have the threesome before the game so you didn't miss a quarter Yeah but come on man You keep coming over here early on a Sunday She pretty too Hey, what's up, man? What you want?

Every Sunday I wake up before you in my house. What you're here for? Well, you must have really been through this. You a little bit, too. Yeah. Why should keep coming over here? What's more disrespectful? Having the new boyfriend beat you up or that they probably went back to her crib where your child is.

Wait, what? What is more disrespectful? getting beat up by your ex's new boyfriend. Okay. Or the fact that they probably went back home to her house where your child is. Don't whoop my ass and then go see my kid. Nah, that's fucking crazy. With your ass and then leave you with the kid for the weekend.

Nah, that's crazy. Either way, that's wild. That is crazy. North Carolina has some relaxed gun laws too, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, sir. check your rear view ma'am be maybe

you should get out of the get the fuck out of this situation yeah that 14 grand could have went to some some firearms hopefully he you know he is with a woman that appreciates him and you know they're just going through a rough spot six months are still early very early that's early but that's I mean but if she just got disrespectful after six months I don't think she's a disrespectful person it could be something else going on like so

yeah he just telling her you gotta hear from her yeah I hear you homie It's all good But we gotta hear from her Like why is she being disrespectful What you doing Like let's hear her side of the story And I'd like to hear from him

What he thinks being appreciated it Yeah Because she could be appreciating the shit out of him But he just He don't know what it is He don't know what that is Or he thinks being appreciated Is like

All right how can we haven't Fucked your cute home girl yet He may view His appreciation for shit Maybe some wild shit Yeah I don't feel appreciated Yeah Like why haven't you

Let me fuck a bunch of other women? Look what I've done for you. Yeah. He could be one of those. Well, stop sending her money. That'll fix it. She actually started acting. She actually started acting once that money stopped coming through.

Once that Wyatt stopped hitting. You wanted to go from disrespectful to super disrespectful. I mean, she ain't appreciating him. And he, you know what I'm saying? He's doing his part. He helping her out. You know what I mean? And she ain't being appreciative.

Then he got to, you know what I mean? Stop being so helpful. But sometimes money isn't everything. Sometimes I could be asking you to do something. Simple shit and you sending me money. Simple shit like what? What Lado said? Lado said, I asked for more reassurance and affection.

You went and bought me a necklace. Like, I want this and you're just giving me this because this is the only way that you know how to show that you care about me. And it's like, I don't want that. I want you to do the dishes. That's what I want. So, yes, even though you said.

I want you to do the dishes. I want you to help me with the dishes one time. Wait, so you mean I could save $14,000 and just go clean the plate? No, you both. Both of them, duality. Just when you thought you had women figured out, Roy. Just when you thought, nah, just do the dishes. Nah, duality, duality.

But I'm just saying. If I'm asking you. Nothing like a woman coming home to a clean house. You come home, your nigga cleaned the whole spot. Through the mattress. Won't even make it to the mattress. Through the sofa. I have not been appreciative.

Mopping my ass off all the time. Very domesticated. You look like you mop. Of course. You look like if I told you to clean, you would go mop. Like you will pull out the mop. One sweep first or nothing. Just pull out the mop.

Nah, not sweeping first. You're crap. Yo, mopping a dirty floor. Like with dust and shit, every, that is wild. Cheese doodles. You just mopping it. You have to sweep, then do the swiffer as well. You got a double sweep to make sure you get all that.

Then you can mop. I just vacuum and then mop twice. But the water got to be like, I'm boiling hot. Like, I boil the water too. Yeah. One of my summer jobs. was to like cut the grass at the parks and shit. And then we also had to clean the bathrooms.

At the park? Yeah. I'm sorry, you had to go through that, man. Yeah. That's like work release shit. That's like, you know, criminals are murderers. It paid. It paid really, really well.

No, it paid really well. Killed somebody got to clean the park bathroom. I mean, everything else was easy because I got, like, cutting the grass and weed whacking that shit was, you throw on headphones, you get through a fucking eight-hour day easy. It was just those weeks when you had to go and clean. But I'm a fucking mop specialist because of it. You think I can't clean my,

my hardwood floors when I was cleaning the park like moving a homeless man to do with it. What's the nastiest shit you ever seen in the park bathroom? I mean probably shit

everywhere but the toilet. Yeah. Like that's probably which was like actually pretty common to be quite honest. Yeah. And at that point like

you're really just mopping dirty water and shit. Like it got to a point and you should never let teenagers do this either. Like we was just wet in the floor and we was out like we can't clean this. You need like an actual professional

to clean this type of shit. You need a power washer to clean this. Like you gave me a mop. I've never used a park bathroom in my life. Me either. And I used to be in a park for hours and I don't even remember having to pee. As crazy as that sounds.

We played ball for four hours. Wow, Gatorade. You're sweating all it out. That's why. Never had to, I've never used a park bathroom. Am I? Like, I'm sitting here thinking like, have I ever even the park bathroom in my hood?

I don't even think the, Park bathroom was open. I don't think we could go anything use the bathroom. Like, that's what I'm like, Park bathroom. Like, if we had to pee, where do we? It was like a little building and there was like trees

when you go behind the building. I was about to say, y'all would probably go behind the building. You're like in a park bathroom. I've never walked inside of a park bathroom in my life. What about the pool? I've used a pool bathroom. I've used a pool bathroom.

I mean, you got to go there to change, like, take your wet trunks off when you're leaving and all that. But I don't even think I've ever like used the bathroom in a pool bathroom. bathroom like listen man I ran track I've used park it's crazy how your bladder like will hold up like playing in the park so like your bladder will hold up well you in danger of sepsis here you your bladder keep but soon as i get off a flight ooh we i got to go I gotta go as soon as I get off the flight I'm going to the bathroom to take a piss I have to I don't know what it is every time I

get off a flight my first stop is the bathroom I've pissing many park bathrooms but I'm I'm running home with I have to shit Like I'm, I'll draw the mind. You can't shit in a park bathroom. Because then what you're doing after that? You're going back to the court? Take your shitty ass home, man. Funky.

Yeah. Who's shit in the park bathroom? I can't assure you. I cleaned it. But that's for like homeless people. Oh, yeah. If you have a home to go to. Oh, no, I'm telling you.

The shit was everywhere but the toilet every time. Yeah, no, you're not shit in no park bathroom. And then it'd just be wet. You don't know what it's wet from. Like, yeah, those bathrooms were crazy. You know what it's wet from. Heroin. Lady heroin.

How do you miss? Yeah, man, water. Did it be condoms in there? And then I'd just be wondering, like, condoms in the park. Like homeless people, like. Homeless people fuck raw. Like, yo. Homeless people fuck.

Stop, Roy. Yeah. No, I'm telling him, homeless people fuck. Like, you don't stop getting horny because you don't go home. That's crazy. The thought of that, you don't stop getting horny because you don't have a home? How are you horny and you? Oh, yeah.

The body is great. Make a way. Horny and you homeless is wild. I don't know. I feel like when people drink alcohol, they get a little horny. I'm sure Hunter Biden can let us know. You probably get horny when you smoke crack. Oh, I know you be horny off the crack.

I know you be horny off the crack. Just based off those laptop photos, I know Hunter Biden was horny's fun. Demarest, how do you know that? Because, like, think about it. You never thought, I know crack sex got to be fire. Oh, my God. Uh, that's probably how you get a dick that you fuck around and have you probably try crack and be like, all right, I'm done with the crack. But then you're going to have sex off the crack.

It's like, nah, I need this again. Regular sex never going to feel the same off the rock. No, life is never going to feel the same off the rock. That's why they can't get off it. Fuck the sex. They want that feeling all because that high only lasts like 10 minutes. That's why crackheads is always, you know what I mean? Looking to get high.

But it's a quick high. Like Coke, they say gives you like ED, right? I mean, not unless you take Roe, but don't you get like a limp dick off Coke? Nah. So you think crack like offset the baking soda offsets that? I don't know. I don't know, man. I'm guessing when you smoke it is just a difference.

First of all, Josh, what website is this before I read anything? Crack makes orgasms better. I told y'all, niggas. I told y'all. Crack cocaine can make it harder to orgasm if you use it often. Cocaine may decrease physical sensitivity while increasing anxiety and irritability. These changes can make it challenging to remain focused on sex and enjoy the moment. That's them.

I love this next paragraph. Dare right that. Crack is safe once in a while. Everything in moderation. Everything in moderation. Crack is safe. Biden.gov. Biden.gov.

Vote Hunter Biden. That's Dare. Dare is telling you it don't make sex better. I feel like it does. I used to smoke weed with our dare counselor. It's four years older than us. He would show up high. Oh, crack increases sexual dysfunction.

So does Molly an ecstasy for some people, but for the people that it don't. I'm just saying, y'all, please don't do drugs. We're not having to pay for drugs. Made it worse for you? Yeah, I couldn't get a wreck off of money. I'm sorry. I'm the opposite. I walk around like a predator. I got to wear the right pants.

My shit was like, nigga, I had no blood in my shit. I ain't know what was going on. My dick ain't been that small since I was four Never again Never again It was a rap Never again Took that shit one time

I said never again Sitting there Sitting there explaining to her Like nah it's never happened She knew She knew She knew we got busy a few like 12 hours later But like she knew in the moment

I was like yo this is crazy We was just laughing That shit was shmur me I was like yo this is wow I was like yo this is some pathetic shit this is crazy

but one of you had to talk and you hi so it's yeah I'm on Molly's we gotta talk we gotta have a conversation I'm gonna say and y'all running your mouth yeah I'm like this never happens

I was like I don't know what I'm talking about my butt ass in the bed like I'm like yo this never happened like I really don't know she's like it's okay like it happens sometime I was like yeah this is I was like yeah

wait was she on Molly too yeah no I'd have left you yeah but we know We finally went to sleep at like 8 a.m. And it got up at like 3 and got busy. Being butt-assing, you can't get hard as hilarious to me for some reason.

But you're like you took your shirt off. I was everything off. Sox, everything was off. Only thing I had on was lotion. That was it. That's all I had on was lotion. It couldn't get it right. Did I try to use the lotion?

Man, I'm sitting there glisting it. I'm laying in the bag. She was trying to suck it, wasn't she? Hell you. Oh, my. God. Yeah. I was like,

yo, listen, we don't have to do this. Like that shit ain't even way. Fuck standing attention. I was like, yo, I was like, yo,

we don't have to do it. I let a girl do that one time and I still scarred from it. Like, she was going for like another two, three minutes. I was like, you can stop now. This is,

this is, this is pathetic. Just give me a few minutes. Yeah. Because we had already fucked and she wanted to go again. Oh. So I was like, just give me. And she,

I was like, all right, fine. You could try. Yeah. I know my pace. I know my clock. That shit was the most embarrassing fucking thing. I was just sitting there.

Like, you, this is, you look pathetic. Not just me. And then the more. Sucking a soft dick. It's just, I don't want that for her. Yeah, that's crazy. That means she like you, though. Yeah.

No, we was, like that wasn't some random shit. Yeah. It means she like you. No, she was, we was cool enough that she could see soft dick often in mind. Oh, once you get old now? Oh, no. I don't give a fuck now. Oh, my God.

I don't care. Whatever. Get out. if he leaving. Yo. I don't care no more. Bye. This is what I have.

It's never going to change. This is it. This is fucking it, man. But thank you, sir. Yeah. You know. What are he going for? Stop giving her the money.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I forgot who we were even talking about. How did we even get there? Stop giving her the money. She'll be fine. She'll straighten up. If not, you'll find somebody better.

Yeah. All right. Well, this was fun today. Hope everyone has a wonderful, wonderful week. Yeah, that's all I got today. All right, well, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace.

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