New Rory & MAL - Episode 396 | God Doesn't Like Podcasts

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Baby D has the day off so it's just the guys on this one. Before we discuss the new music that dropped last Friday, Mal wants to know if we're being over exposed to new music (15:59). JID's album has Rory thinking he has the potential l to be the next generation's GOAT (32:22). Leaks continue to spill from Cardi's camp, and Rory has a theory about her new track "Imaginary Players" (52:43). Mal shows love to Shedeur Sanders after his first preseason game, but the real question is how come we didn't hit on Deion and Karrueche (1:22:00). Plus, a caller needs advice (or permission) to make up for lost time, and what song does Mal say makes him cry while flying? (1:46:36) #volume   * TIMESTAMPS MAY VARY DUE TO ADVERTISEMENTSSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. The volume. All right, first of all, Ma. I know you put your other phone away and shit. Why did I come out of the bathroom and P. just playing the new Kia record, which sounded fine. It's not bad.

Yo, I asked who is that? And he was like, oh, that's Kea's neck, like my neck and my back. Yeah, that's not, it's not bad. She don't sound bad, man. No, it sounds fine. Yeah. Video's a little cheesy, but, you know, that's okay. Wait, there's a video?

Oh yeah, that's what we was watching the video. Is her neck and her back in there? Her neck and her back are fine. Yeah, her neck and her back are great. But she doesn't say what is. I respect any artist coming back to try to make some music. And she had a certified hit, but yeah, she looked great. My neck, my back.

Yeah, you know what? Sometimes you just... All right, so... Listen, man. Hold on. How many seconds in are we? All right, we're in enough. She was definitely ahead of the ass-eating,

wave if we're getting down to it. What do you mean she was ahead of the wave? I feel like it became like okay to publicly say you ate ass, I don't know, maybe like 2012. It was okay to, because even before that, like when I was growing up, especially around West Indian people, eating pussy was like forbidden. That was like Bati boy. But it's still the funniest thing in the world.

How is it gay to eat pussy? But. Yo, we're not even two minutes in yet, bro. like are you okay how many times I have to tell y'all I'm not okay I didn't think I had to keep doing this I'm not okay

but that just sparked a thought in my head that like she was like kind of the trailblazer for eating ass her song was very raunchy because even at that point like eating pussy was a little taboo

to tell everybody that you're like are you okay I was trying to give her like her flowers we are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, Text, and Data. You was eating crack at that time?

2012? Yeah. No, no. When did my neck and my back came out in like 2003? Two. Yeah, yeah. I was early. I don't think I...

I'm a pioneer. 2001. I definitely, I had not... No, you was... Yeah, you wasn't even outside yet like that. I had kissed a girl in 2001. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

You was getting your feet wet. Just jumped off the porch. But like, yo, when... 2004 hit. It was going crazy. Couldn't even stop the gun. Yeah. Yeah.

I hear you. Well, actually, no, you could stop me. Never mind. If it was going to set like, I don't want. No, you could stop me. Today we are here, but Demaris is not with us today. She has a day off. Yes.

So it's just the he man, woman's hate her club today. Yes. It's time to. Yes. That's why we started out with Ian Nass. We hate women. And we hate women. Yeah.

Yeah. And sorry to kill all the YouTube conspiracy reaction pages. It's just the day off. But I enjoy that. because now we can actually be who we are and just disrespect whether in the way we want to. You know, talk about them like objects. Yes.

Hopefully she's somewhere in a kitchen. Actually. Right where she's supposed to be. I don't even think she deserved to work. I think she should just be home sewing and making food. Make my shoes. You know what I mean? Make you some shoes from scratch.

Would you rather be a housewife? No. Why not? Because I just wouldn't rather be a housewife. Okay. As opposed to what I do now? Yeah. Like if roles were reversed in that way in the world

Without testosterone Like would you mind just like running around with a bunch of kids And I wouldn't mind it but not every day I don't think I could do that every day I would get super bored I get bored with routine Like easily a lot

Yeah The housewife thing I mean you know Being home with the kids Taking care of the kids You know wife might be you know sick Or whatever she has to go out of town You gotta stay with the kids Like it's cool for a couple days

For that to be my every day Yeah I don't know if I could do that every day Yeah, I don't know. I mean, but I guess it could be cool if you have some money because you could have a nanny while you're a stay-at-home mom. Money fixes everything. Open the shard-nay-n-noon. Money buys convenience. Money buys, you know, just Pilates. The ability to be able to do other things. Like that, of course, that fixes everything. But you still want to have, you know, your time alone with the family and the kids. Like, you don't want the nanny every day. You know what I mean? Yeah. My cousin had a living nanny at one point and I thought it was the weirdest thing. And then I had kids. And I was like, I totally get it.

Yeah, no, it's a real thing. Nannies are there to help, especially when you have a great nanny, like, you know, that comes and she'll cook breakfast for everybody and, you know, that type of nanny. It's convenient. It makes things convenient. Teach your children about vibes, Cartel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need a good nanny that a cultured, cultured nanny. Get a cultured nanny. Don't just get any nanny. Get a nanny with some culture. I worked in Tribeca when I was at Havas and just walking outside during lunch to watch like all the West Indian nanny. with white kids was like by far the funniest thing in the world like those kids is there not a documentary on that yet i feel like that needs to be a document i'm sure it'll come eventually once those kids start fucking once those kids start fucking tony west indian mothers i see on madison avenue like like coming out of like the the polo manchin i'm like yo that's not your kids once it gets started like do a little dutty wine it's over yeah we need a we need a west indian nanny

documentary. Like, tell us about how you raised the guy that is now the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Like, is that a specific New York thing, like, nanny-wise? I'm sure, like, in Florida, it's probably more like Spanish nannies, right? Or Haitian nannies. Well, yeah, I can see that. California, again, I'm stereotyping. Yeah, but it's definitely, you know, just depending on the culture that's in that city, absolutely. But you could say, like, that's not a black knight. That's a West Indian. It's a difference. There's a difference. And what do you think, like, they're giving the child at lunch. Kalaloo.

Giving a kid, like, rice and peas. Because there's a difference between rice and peas and rice. That's a fact. People don't know the difference. That is a fact. There's a difference. But even like,

I feel like Guy in East Curry would be crazy for a child. I think a child could handle like Jamaican cur. Give me a white kid that lives on Madison Avenue, on Hudson, like, Guy and East Curry for lunch. By the time dad comes back from his. murder trial that he's working. The kids are in the bathroom,

assing on fire. Just even the hockey of like, oh, is this eggs? Nah, that's a fruit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There has to be a doc. We need a West Indian nanny doc. Where are all the rich kids from Tribeca? Because I know so many of them have raised so many of these CEOs

that are now out here at these companies. Like, we don't talk about that enough. For sure. I mean, even like Succession, which was one of my favorite shows, I kind of wish they added that element into the show. That could have been a whole different storyline. Yeah. That the West Indian Nanny was raising all these people's kids.

Imagine the things the West Indian Nanny has seen all the secrets she knows. Oh, yeah. But shit. When they go back home, when they take that barrel of clothes back to the island to give everybody, you know, they're telling all them stories down there. But even like, that's why they're the best nannies because it's in a middle-aged West Indian woman's nature to hold it down. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You think the shit in Tribeca is crazy. that she's seeing. She's seen some shit on a farm in Guyana that she will never talk about.

That's a fact. Absolutely. She don't care about you doing lines. Yeah, we need it. Let's get that doc soon, man. Please somebody put it together. New York. Let's start with the New York West Indian nannies first. Let's start there. And we can treat it like baddies. We can go to different countries, different cities. You know, I got baddies, do nannies. Or like, it could be like a fun experiment to flip it. Like, if we took a bunch of middle-aged white women and put them, in Ghana or Nigeria and they have to be nannies. Oh, no. That's, I mean, the amount of wealth that's in Nigeria, like, it's the same thing as Tribeca if you get down to it. Absolutely. That could be fucking, just have a bunch of middle America white women being nannies for

for Nigerian royalty. Zeus, get on it. We need it. We need a nanny. Natalie Nunn is going to be the one to get that. Maybe not her, but on the network, we need nannies on Zeus. Yeah. That could be a Tala Perry movie.

That shit came and went. He got money. What? Tyler Perry's case? No, it wasn't the case though. It was just, he was being, it wasn't a case, like it didn't go to court yet. I think it was just like he was being sued. Yeah, but I mean, one of the biggest directors and film owners of our generation.

No, I don't think it went away. We just not talking about it. To just have those text messages leaked and nobody talked about it after the day. Well, then after that he did like that. I saw him doing a round table discussion was him, GZ, Kirk Franklin. Wait. You didn't see that? you see that? Yeah.

That was not this here. There's no way. Yeah, it was like Tyler Perry, Young Jeezy, Kirk Franklin, I saw sitting at the table. Simulation. Like this is like, I'm telling you, it was like a real thing. I don't know what it was, but I saw the clip, and I was like, this is an interesting group. And he was told him about his freaky-ass text message.

Den of Kings is what it's called. Okay. Yeah, Den of Kings. And this happened like recently, recently. Yeah, this is, I think so. All the clips were recent. When was this posted, Josh? This was on three weeks ago.

See? Yeah. Listen, man, let's sit around and let's talk about it. Let's talk about... Did they start the show accountability? Let's talk about... You know what I'm saying? Look at that.

Let's learn how to cook. That's what you do have the text message just come out. Got to wear all white with pearls for sure. Yeah. You got to have a Gucci track suit on. And you check in every box. Former alleged Coke dealer now turned his life around. Got the church there.

If anybody knows... how to cook is jeezie. I can assure you that. I mean, what do you think ingredients that he uses for most of his dishes? I mean, there's got to be a lot of, a lot of bacon soda. He's heavy on the bacon soda type of guy. What do you cook with baking soda?

I mean, it depends. The base. You need the base. You need a fat crust. You know what I'm saying? You need something that's going to lock up. You know, bacon soda's going to help it rise if you're baking. Yeah. You know, his pastures. Pace uses his expertise. I'm guessing. I'm guessing. I'm guessing.

I'm guessing. I'm guessing. Bastries. Nobody finds that odd that people were smoking things that takes the smell out of your fridge? No. I mean, we drink Coca-Cola, so that takes stains out of cars. Yeah, but you need, bacon soda is actually really good for you in general, though. I mean, it's the best cleaning product, in my opinion. Yeah, bacon soda is great for you.

You need that. How did I skip over this, though? Yeah, Den of Kings. I don't know. I didn't watch it. I mean, shout out to all these successful men. Yeah, but I think, I don't know if this was shot before the text messages of Tyler Perry were released or after, but yeah, I saw this clip floating around. I didn't sit down and

watched the entire episode, but I just thought it was an interesting. I'm not sure who the other gentlemen are, but seeing Kirk Franklin, Gizi and Tyler Perry in the kitchen, that's something that I feel like I should watch. Always just have to go back to God. Yeah. Every time you get in this shit. That's a fact. What do you think GZ thought and it said if this happened after the text messages? What am I doing here? Why me? Why now? Ty, what were you doing? Yeah, why am I here right now? Yeah, but I don't know if that case has any real legs, though. Oh, I don't know which true and what's not. I'm not here to say that he's guilty of anything.

I just think they were funny text messages. Yeah, no, very funny. Very funny. Like, hilarious, actually. Yeah. And you're a very creative person if you just make those text messages up. Uh, but we're even more sick in the head if you can concoct fake text messages like that. Yeah, no.

I think it's real text messages, but I don't know if there was any crime, you know. I mean, what do you think, if you had, like, the talent. that Pige has where you can Photoshop anything, how do you think that would change, like, your personal life? Like, oh, the need to, like, lie in situations would, for some reason, be very high to me where I could, like, doctor a text or something. Yeah, but I...

I wouldn't do that, but it's just... To have the ability that P.H. Just know that you can do it. Yeah, like, to manipulate a situation when your back is against the wall, I feel like Photoshop would be the greatest tool ever. But you would only need that if, because if she gets your phone, I don't care how well you Photoshop. Oh, yeah. It's over at that point. It's over. But like if she's just assuming or, you know, she thinks that you're texting somebody, you can be like, you know, send some screenshots like, yo, look, I don't even mean like, I don't talk to this person. It's nothing there. Like, it's just regular conversation or.

But if she has your phone, it's over. It's not. I don't care how great you at Photoshop is over. I feel like my need with that would be very light where it was like, yo, I called you. And then I would just like add the number into a. screenshot. It wouldn't be like crazy. I did call you back. Like, yo, I called you back. Like, look, right here at the time. Yeah. I don't have it on my end. What you mean? Like, here's screenshot the call log. Yeah. That's as far as I would call you twice.

You got to put two. I called you twice. Now I have to ask Pige what type of diabolical Photoshop shit he's done with his craft. He's definitely done some crazy shit. I know for sure. He, PJ ain't going to tell us, but he definitely did some crazy shit with Photoshop. 100%. I would definitely consensually. I would definitely consensually make my dick way bigger on a dick pick so we got new music i'm just trying to make you

uncomfortable today new music um new music while i am happy that we get new music and we get a lot of good new music right i do think that it's bad that we get this much new music why it was three albums as far as like bigger artists yeah but i feel like we just got the clips album a couple weeks ago and alfredo two we just got alfredo two a few weeks ago and now we have j id album we have gunner's album we have bryson tillers album um to name a few i'm sure some other projects drop but like when do we have the time to really like listen to all of this because we spent so much time i was having a conversation with my boy uh the other day And we've lost, we've, in the conversation, we were talking about how we've lost the connection to music.

Like, there's times now where I could love somebody's album and I don't even remember the lyrics to the raps. Before, if I loved the probably, this album is crazy. I could recite every song because I felt like there was a different connection to it versus now we do everything on our phone. If I'm listening to the music on my phone and then I get a text. message or I get a call or somebody sends me a clip and I got to watch this clip. It's like you're being pulled away from what I'm really like I'm listening to music on my phone. So now if I got all these other things happening, there's like this connect. Like I hear the music. I hear it. Like I'm listening to the album. But there's no like the connection or the like

there's something. There's a, there's like a wall in between us and really connecting to the music it feels But I don't think it's a music thing per se. I just think it's an entertainment thing. Well, you know, put it up to that as well. Music is just folded into that because, I mean, even the way we binge shows, like, imagine if a season of the Sopranos was available one day, not spread out amongst 14 weeks where you watched an episode, you talked about it with your friends for the whole week, you made predictions, you did all that. Like, you can just binge things immediately. And on top of that, you have every bit of course.

content and your phone on social media, whether it be TikTok, IG. Like, music is going to fall to the waist size in that regard. And it's so, it's so much easier to make music now. It's easier to make it. It's easy to put it out. So in that regard, you have, and we'll get to the Bryson thing, but you can put a double album out. But the contradiction there is I feel like no one has the attention span for it. So it's easier to put it out, but you're putting it out to consumers that don't have the time or attention span to listen to that amount. So, yeah, everyone's fucked in that regard. Like, imagine working on a Netflix series for three years and somebody binges it in one rainy

Saturday and then says, yo, where's season two? Yeah. I just put my life into this shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's access to everything. And even when I'm watching something I'm engaged with, I'll look at my phone and start scrolling through. I'll see that.

Right. And I get distracted And music is the same way Like it's very low on the totem pole If you're not like a real lover of music But even if you're all I love the songs are too much I love the technology now

Because again literally I could pull up any song I could be thinking about a record Yeah And type it in and pull it up and listen to it So I love it you can start saying the lyrics to Siri I love that aspect of it But there is a difference in the way I connect to music now than I used to.

Like, when I had to literally buy physical music or, you know, CD album, there was like a different, even if I didn't like it. Because you could only carry so much with you. Like, I used to carry the big CD booklet, but even then, like, I would keep one CD in my shit. But this is what I'm saying. I think it's too much now. Like, we just, I'm still listening to Alfredo too.

And now I got Jake Jid's album. Now I got, you know, Bryson's album. It's like, bro, I'm still, I haven't really even, you know, really digested all the bars in Alfredo 2 yet. And now J.I.D. is on, on my phone. Okay. All right. I hear you. And again, I'm not trying to be devil's advocate here. Ironically, on September 11th. When Blueprint and Fab's first album came out, like, people used to drop on the same day, graduation Curtis. Like, that would happen often where people would drop on the same day.

No, right. But tell me what came out three weeks before those albums. Oh, I see. Yeah. I don't know. You get what I'm saying? Like, that's the difference. It's like, okay, we get Alfredo two weeks ago or a week ago.

And then now this week, Jid, next week, chance the rapper. It's like, if I'm on a phone call having a good conversation with somebody and somebody calls in, I'm like, hold on. How often do I go back to that other call? But that's it. If it's another good comment, like, my homie calls, I'm like, yo. I'm downtown. Yo, it was crue. I just saw it.

I forgot I got homey on the on hold now. So now it's like, when do you have an opportunity to really, or it's a shorter window to connect to the music now, I think. And I mean, I'm not saying this about you whatsoever. I'm just saying the consumer. I feel like a lot of the consumers listen to react as quick as they can rather than live with the music and then move on to the next thing that they can react to. So as an artist. how do you navigate through that? Do you take two years to create

and then for somebody in three hours to be like, yo, this shit trash? Yeah. At that point, that's out of your control. That's where finding the right consumer and the right tribe and the right core fan base matters the most, which will get to J.I.D. shit.

I don't think he tried to chase anything at all but his core fan base on this project, myself being one. And I think that was the smartest thing ever. Like, you try to, I get it. You got to grow, and get more fans the best way possible. We go through with podcasts and two,

down to how we title certain YouTube shit. But at the end of the day, it's still the core that's really going to matter and return, and that's the only people you really should feed. That's the only strategy that you could have control of, feeding your core and your tribe. Along the way, maybe you'll get some more people, but do you think Freddie and Al was sitting there

of like, yo, we got to get as many people as possible to go back to listen to Alfredo 1 after this. No. Let's keep our formula and grow our formula. That's what's going to move any type of vinyl, move actual real ticket sales. That's the only thing that matters at this point if you're in that space. And JID is a big artist. Like he has an M&M feature that we were completely wrong about.

I feel like we deserve some credit because I think he added it back to the album because of us. Well, no, you came in here with information that you heard or you received from somewhere. It was on an EP. I didn't know it was going to be on album. That was the old Rick Ross move. No, but I ain't going to lie. Like, that would have been insane if you don't put a piece. He said when all that shit came out that this was not on that album.

Oh, he did say that. When he posted the EP shit, if I'm, correct me if I'm wrong, fans, you can kill me in the DM. When he was tweeting, she was like, yo, I want to put out some shit before my project. Like, this is the EP before the album. Okay. Like, this didn't have a place on my album. Okay. But again.

I mean, it's an M&M feature, so it should stay there. And I wasn't too mad at it in the sequencing. It's not really a song for me. All right, yeah. The prelux is strictly to get people talking, intrigued, excited about the album, that's all. Yeah, how I interpreted it, which is, you know, obviously I was wrong.

I interpreted that along with everyone else that this was like your pre-epish. The pre-epish is strictly to get, people talking, intrigued, excited about the album. Great strategy, but would you not read that? So there's another inverse on the main album. Nope, I got two of the best fast rappers of all time. I think he was alluding to himself in there. But, I mean, either way, yeah, to close your point in that regard, I think just feeding

your core is the only way because the average consumer is just going to move on and swipe up to the next fucking 15 second reel. You can't like music, even when they've chopped it down to 2.30 as far as songs go, that's still hard to keep people's attention. Like you have fucking movie studios trying to figure out how can we capture somebody in 10 seconds and they're putting out films that are four hours. Right. We're fucked with a microwave brain.

Like that's just how things go. So it is kind of on you as the consumer to get out of that way. Because yes, I'm more attached to some of the. music I grew up on but I also had a different mind state and was in a different environment at that time and how I even consumed things mm-hmm so as a music lover as a consumer sometimes I have to like discipline myself and be like yo don't look at your phone sit and just live with this music because I know that's where your heart really is with this shit and like how you feel better

and everything I guess for me it's different though because I used to I used to literally when the album come out you know artists I like drops of projects I burn that project to the ground. Because I need to hear it. I need to live with it. I need to move around with it. Just to see if I like it, love it, hate it. Now it's like I'm in the mix of still trying to figure out if I love this project or not.

And then now this week I got another artist that I like. He's dropping his album. I got to listen to this. It's just, it's like it seems like you can't, I can't listen to everything fairly. But we also got older. Like you also have to add that factor into it. Like that's another thing. Life happens.

I got things to do this. I can't just be listening to the music move on. So all of these things happen, but just the cadence of the way we receive music, though, I think. It's just like it just feels very like, it's almost like a conveyor belt. And, you know, I'm seeing a product come down. Oh, I like this. And by the time, I'm looking at this, three more is going underneath the, and I'm like, oh, shit. Like, let me listen to it.

It just feels like you're always playing catch up when it comes to your favorite music. But, I mean, I'll even say, like, I have not listened to the Gunna album. yet but I'm very not because you don't like gunna no you just haven't had the opportunity to hear that yeah with that said outside of I mean we we have chance on on the podcast this this coming week and I had to listen to that album plus JID and bryson tiller three artists that I really like gunna I like gunna I don't get me wrong but I've admitted like I'm not going to move my life around for a gunna album it would strictly be for the podcast podcast. Yeah. Which to me also feels a little gross because like why should I be the one even

reviewing? Like I feel like that's fucked up to Gunna. Yeah. Like with them, not that we have the biggest media platform, but you know, people do listen to us. I'm not the one for this. Like I like a Gunner song every now and then. I'm not going to sit there and do a deep dive on Gunner. Right. And that's nothing negative about him. Right. It's my taste. I'm sure Gunner would look at some of the music I listen to and be like, dog, you, that's whack. That's just, I don't know. Turn that off and listen to my brother. Like that's just how life goes. So you also have to take that into consideration.

I'm not never in my life, even when I would be completely free and I have nothing to do, would I run to go dissect a gun out? Yeah. So add that into. And I think a lot of people feel that way with how much music is out there. I love that streaming allows you to not have to sit with the radio and the mainstream shit you're just forced to listen to. When I get in the car, I don't have to listen to what the radio is programmed. programming, but you're also going to not listen to other shit because of that. Even if Gun is the biggest shit, moving.

I can't believe I'm not going to sit there and listen to a gun of album all this album. Like, I'll be lying if I said that. And listening to radio now, I can't believe I actually used to listen to the radio. Why? I used to record the radio. It's the same 12 songs from seven artists over and over. But that's what I'm saying.

Now that you realize that now that I have the ability to, listen to whatever I want whenever I want. I can't really, I cannot believe that radio was such a big part of my life at one point. Because when you listen to it now, like, sometimes in commute and I'll just listen to the radio. And then like, example, the other day I went out. So I caught an Uber, went downtown, right? When I got out the car, a song was playing. Two hours later, I got back into Uber.

That same song was playing again. And I was like, bro, this is, so now I'm listening because now I'm going to say, okay, let me hear what's next. It almost got to a point where I know which song they get ready to play next. So I'm just like, we used to sit down in the crib like around the radio and listen. Yeah. And it's like, bro, it's the same songs, the same artist. And then I'm thinking like, we know how programming works. We know that they have playlists at the radio and things like that.

But my thing is there's so many other songs and dope artists that you could even. We don't have to listen to this song three times in the hour. Like, there's two other artists you get to put in that spot and played their new record. I mean, I hear you, but in, yes, this was programming working, but like, you know, I remember taking the boombox to go play ball and just waiting for country grammar to play. Like, just waiting for it. And yeah, it would play once an hour, but that was like a moment at that time. That's why it resonated more.

because we only had access to that. Had I had the ability to just listen before the album came out, had the ability to just listen to country grammar every five minutes, I probably would have moved the fuck on. The fact that we sat around the radio waiting for that song,

even if it played every hour, it made it resonate more. So that speaks to- even like when we would, TRL 106 in part, like Tira waiting for DMX party up video. Like run home, so you could watch that again.

If YouTube was really a thing, it wouldn't have been a moment with me and my friends of like, yo, what number you think? Yo, that part in this, yo, I caught another thing in the video because you could only maybe see it once a day. You can't rewind it. This was before we had Tivo.

Yeah. And even when we used to record the radio on tapes because I'm really not that young, we would do that as well. Like, all right, if we want to listen to this again, let's do a push tape. Like literally record the radio. that was a thing that made it a moment for a record outside of it just resonating sonically that was like a moment with your friends to see so so who knows the lyrics like who like that was a thing too much access kind of killed that like having the ability to have the ability to you shouldn't have that much access to art at any time it's it's a catch 22 like I really see both sides of how great that is because I love the ability to do that especially when I got an iPod I thought it was the greatest thing ever yeah and it definitely changed

my music discovery and my music taste. But it did definitely take away from the moments you have with music. Like the JID and Offset record, which is fired, bodies is foreshut. Like if that was in radio time, that would probably be a joint that would live with me forever. Right. But now, I don't know. I mean, I like it. Yeah.

Too much access. Yeah, I'm not waiting for that record to come on because I can just. play it. Yeah. So I'm... Well, J.I.D. dropped his god does like ugly. I'll take my, my sunflowers. I texted Demaris.

She owes me some sunflowers as well. Yes, you did at the top of the year. I believe you said J.D. will drop the best rap album. I said J.I.D. and Clips will be candidates for a rap album of the year. And I think I'm there. It's only been two days. Plus, obviously, we had to listen to the chant shit. I had tomorrow the whole weekend and studio sessions.

But off the... the few listens I had of the jid shit. I mean, I feel like personally, he's setting himself up to be the next generation person, but I don't know if that even exists anymore, that there's going to be like a new big three. But Ginny, I don't see it. Yeah, I don't know if that's even going to be a thing,

not to Jid's credit or discredit. But this is easily up there with the, Clips, Alfredo 2. Was I the only one that, like, listening to shit and thought it was fucking incredible? No, so it was Sunday. I was on the phone with Nick, Nick Grant, and he asked me, say, yo, you're a Jid album yet? And I said, oh, shit. Like, I'm still listening to Alfredo 2 and clips.

Like, I forgot Jid dropped Friday. So I'm going to listen to it today. So I'm like, what you think? Nick, like, yo, there's some joints on there. Like, he got some shit on there. There's definitely some joints that I think you're going to like. So I said, all, let me check it. out. So all day, Sunday,

moving around, so I'm playing the album. And again, when I'm listening to music, it's literally the music I hear first. I don't even know what you're saying. Camry, I'm just trying to hear the sound that you went after what you did with the music. So then now I'm getting to the lyrics and the flows and I'm like, damn, like this feels like an album that would have came out in the 90s. Yep. Like it has that, it has that energy. It has that attention to, you know, details when it comes to bars and,

how you write and construct songs. And, you know, Jid is one of those rappers that understands his voice as an instrument, the way he uses influxions in his voice and his tone, his, his cadence, his, you know, his flows on a lot of the records. He does, like, interesting little things with his voice that he does with the music. And I thought that this album was incredible. Like, I listened to it. I think the G's record to me is one of the better records I've heard from Jid and his discography like ever.

Yeah. That's one of my favorite Jid songs, I think ever. I'm terrible with titles, but I specifically looked at that because when I heard it, I remember when I was listening to it the first time and I'm listening to the music, and I'm listening, I'm like, damn, like, what is that? So I went and looked. I had to see what the name of that particular song was. and I played that like three times

and I'm listening to what he's saying and the way he ended the album on for keeps I think is the name of that one last song for keeps yep for keeps you know he really got in his you know so loop to soul sample let me just get my shit off

you could obviously hear you know the Andre 3,000 influence the outcast influence you could hear it's not even just that it's dungeon family it's dungeon family goody mob like even from Earth Gang, that whole crew, like, the new version of East Atlanta, like, post-Gucci

between Black, Jib, Earth Gang, Reeve, like, all of them doesn't get talked about enough, even though they all aren't in the same. I mean, obviously, J-I-D and Earth Gang are Dreamville and LVR and when Black, but they all grew up together. That doesn't get talked about enough of, like, carrying on and elevating a sound in Atlanta. Because to me, that shit is, is Goody Mob on steroids in 2025 with what Earthgang and JID did with this production. I should have looked at the credits. I don't know the full production breakdown,

but yeah, on the side of somebody that could just rap really well, Atlanta artists are great at rapping really well, but making sure that we're going to make good music. Yeah. Like music goes first in Atlanta, lyrics go second. I don't mean that as a slight.

Because I think Three Stacks, who's one of the greatest lyricist ever, if you want to get down to it. He's going to put music way before lyrics with everything. And that's where Atlanta always wins. And that's what I think Jid did on this album. We all know he could rap just as good as anybody in 2025. To me, that wasn't the focus. It was content of what he was saying. And it was melodies.

It was how he was arranging his flow on certain things. nothing about outside of Animal Volume 1 was, yo, I could rap better than you. Yeah. It was music. I could have did without that record, though. I mean, just being honest like that. And that's my thing. Even the album is incredible. I think the music

is great. The, you know, lyrically, his flows, everything. Like, he jid paid attention to every detail when it comes to constructing. Yeah. Fitting Sierra on that shit, Atlanta Legend shit. The features was dope. Obviously having the clips is fucking crazy.

Malice might have another verse of the year on that push and malice both went fucking that community record Pastor Troy yeah I mean showing my age of just how great it was to hear from Pastor Troy yeah but yeah I can't say enough about this project shut out the Vince Vince got a crazy verse on that VCR's record no crazy verse on that VCR's record Don Tolliver I love that I love that Don Tolliver record I was you know I didn't when I saw the Don's how feature, I was kind of like,

you know, seems like completely different worlds. But, you know, you quickly realize how much of an artist jit is.

He's not just a rap. Like, so mixing him with Don, it looks kind of like, to the eye, like, what would they do together? But the directors,

though. But that's very much to what I was saying before of like three stacks. Like once three stacks went on his like feature run, it was always on records that you wouldn't expect.

Yeah. Even when he would do his freestyles of, um, walk it out and like he would always go on things that you'd be like all right i didn't expect you to go on this even with whether it be james blake whether it be frank like all that stuff he always found a way to be on something different and i think jid has that same ability yeah he he can show out on anything and not sound weird of blue phenomenal record no i think don and and jic could do an

EP tomorrow and it would sound great. Yeah, no, I was definitely again, you know, always like Jid, always supported Jid, think he's phenomenal. But you know, you kind of get scared when it comes to your favorites putting out a project and you're like, I hope he didn't, wasn't, you know, influenced by certain pressures to make this type of sound and this, that

it's good to know that Jid is going to be Jid. Like he looks like he's sticking to what he wants to do, how he wants to sound, how he wants to, you know, be perceived. So it's always dope when you're favorite rappers go about it that way and approach it. Like you said, stick to their core. Yeah. And I mean, I think that speaks to the system that he's in. I think he was talking to BDOT. I forgot we was talking to when I saw the clip. But just that Dreamville system of they're not going to

give you any of that pressure whatsoever. Yeah. Cold talked for years of when he was in that first Rock Nation system where it was radio record. Let's get him with Stargate. And like, you have to have that. And they were like, no, no, no, we could do this in another way. Let me show you another way to get to that A-list rapper shit, which Cole did. So, Jid is in a system where they're going to let him do what he wants to do. Yeah. And yeah, I think that speaks to Dreamville and why the music sounds so good. Because if they were over Jid's shoulder trying to make something to happen,

I don't think we'd get a good project. I also don't think you get like a Shaybutter baby. I think the system that Eve and Cole have with their artists is the best way. Ari doesn't seem to be too happy with it though. Well, she left Jingville. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but again, I really don't know like the politics of that. But before they let her, even ASL, like, they let her do her thing.

So, I mean, I'm not sure contractually what that looks like, but Jid spoke very highly of what it was like working with them in the major label system. And they did right by him. I don't know Ari's take on that. but yeah I think everyone kind of just gets left alone and you could do some people maybe don't want to be left alone maybe some people can't be left alone some people maybe want more support than what they're doing like earth gang I think is incredible because they're left alone now you could say if they weren't maybe they would be bigger

because they're like two the most talented fucking people I've heard in the last 15 years but they're left alone yeah so if you want to be left alone and make your music and make your money, great system. If you want the major suit and like, all right, we're going to go buy you a hit somewhere, then maybe it's not the place for you. And I don't know if that's the case with art. I really don't. But, well, either way, shout out to J.I.D. Jitty Jig. God does like ugly available now. Stream that, download that, play, that, support that. Phenomenalmers, great music. West Side Gun popping the album off within the first two seconds. I was like, wait, did I click the right album? Yeah, man. No, I really, really like this project. I'm looking forward.

to living with it a little longer even though fucking next week, Drake might decide to drop and then now I can't listen to or Kendrick might put some like. It's like, what the fuck, man? I'm just digesting God does like ugly and here come you niggas with more raps. But no, this is a great project.

Definitely enjoyed it. And shout out to Jid for a phenomenal, phenomenal album. Bryson Tiller, the Vices. Disc 2 came out before disc 1. Yes. I'm really interested why he went about it that way. double disc or why

disc two before this one? I mean the double disc whatever, it's the streaming era I get it but why I lead would disc two? Why wouldn't that be disc one? Maybe it'll flow better once both are out and it'll make more sense but

I don't know, give me the beginning and the beginning. The beginning of the beginning. Yeah, like, we gave this a one over listen so I want to make that very clear that this may not be a very fair review based off the schedule that we have had

with the time we're hearing this. We can revisit it though. We can give it a couple more days. Yeah, no, I'm going to be honest in what I feel now. I feel like Bryson Tiller owned a sound. He got a lot of kids out here. His DNA is all over R&B. People that y'all claim are innovative,

their babies are Bryson. him chasing the sexy drill sound on three or four of these records was very disappointing to somebody I feel is an innovator in the R&B space. You don't want to hear him on those drums? No. Why not? I just don't. All right.

One, cool. That's fine. I get it. It's the times. But it was like the first two records and then no sharing, I believe it was. Yeah, I don't need three sexy drill records. I don't need three of the same fucking beat. And I just think the words are too important to go over the same shit that we have already.

You're not that. Bryson started an entire R&B movement, an entire R&B pivot to then go back to what is trending at the moment. I just don't, I don't get it because he's not that. Yeah, well, I only had time to listen to the music. I didn't really get into what Bryson was saying. But the music, I'm not mad at. Music sounds good. It's a lot of the Bryson feel.

It's brapso DNA is in there. Some of the calypso DNA is in there. Yeah. Which sexy drill takes a lot of calypso shit to begin with. So I'm not, you know, I like it. Off to just to just listening to the music, I want to go back and, you know, really get into what Bryson is saying what he's talking about. but just off of

I think I listened to it once and then we were playing it in the studio earlier just listening to the music I'm not mad at it it sounds it's right on par what Bryson does

it's his sound I know you say you don't really want too much of the sexy drill shit but that's not too far for the trapso shit okay I mean I guess you're right in that part

it's not too far from the trapso I say all of Bryson's DNA is over everything because I do think the sexy drill shit is pretty much drill music with trap soul Like that's his sound, but I mean, do it in a more innovative and creative way.

Like, that could, that could have just been any sexy drill beat from the Bronx. Like, I feel like I could find that beat on YouTube if I typed in sexy drill beat. And I just feel like Bryson's better than that. But don't get me wrong, like burnout, I thought was incredible. Money shower, interlude is fire more than money. What's the Rick Ross joint? Mini Kel, like, I liked records on this first disc. I just, it makes me more curious what's on disc one.

Like, why, why this approach? I think, I think it'll probably be, why do we need this? I think it'll probably be more R&B. I think it's going to be. Yeah, fucking music is, is really what I think it's going to be. But, but Bryson is, I mean, like I said, the music is still, Bryson is still Bryson there. Of course. No, his pen did not miss on it.

He's one of the greatest writers, period. But I just, I don't know. It's my personal taste. I'm sure everyone else likes hearing him on sexy Drew, but I would have just like one flip of like, oh, damn, all right, we got Bryson on the new sound. I didn't need fucking three of them. Right. That's really where I stand on the entire thing. But again, I don't know.

It's tied devices. There's a deeper meaning. I don't know. He's fucking bitches is sexy Drew, and he's trying to live his rhymes. It's his vice. I don't know. Yeah. I like it, though. The music sounds good. I'm definitely going to listen to it some more today and, you know, the rest of the week just to kind of get into the music a little more. But it sounds great. It sounds like Bryce and Tiller. It sounds like he got another project to add to his discography that we're going to fuck with.

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Yeah, so I guess somebody leaves. the announcement in title. Yeah. It's from, again, we're recording this literally right now at 5 o'clock on August 11th. But, yeah, it appears once again that this feels a little rushed, and I'm not trying to shit on Cardi. What feels rushed, the announcement, or? Just the entire thing, because. But she wasn't trying to announce nothing.

It leaked. I know, but it feels very, like, reactive because how outside came out is because it leaked. which she even said, you know, after she had some words for us, which was fine. But she went on to say that they had to pivot because it leaked. Right. And now she's saying, all right, well, I had a better idea of how I wanted to put out imaginary players, but clearly it leaked the title leaked. So now I have to figure out what the fuck to do for Friday.

So I'm not saying rushed per se. It just feels sloppy. And I feel for Cardi. This is not a slight to Cardi whatsoever. Like what's going on internally? with Atlantic that would, unless this is the strategy. And this is like the deeper rollout that I don't really fully understand yet, that this is the leak rollout, that, hey, we're just going to keep leaking shit.

And then react to it. I don't know. That could be it. But I do have a very deeper barb theory with imaginary players. Because Cardi was saying in that clip, was there some version of it being hard to get that record to be put out? Well, she alluded to saying, if I gotta tell you all this, I wish I could tell you the story or what I had to go through to get this record, you know what I mean, I guess done or whatever.

This is a full theory. What's like full theory, guys? I'm just, I'm shooting the shit right now amongst friends. I think Cardi had an imaginary player's beat that was a flip of the JZ record and she wanted to use it and Hoves said no. and then Nikki went on all her fucking insane Des Hove. I'm sure if I refresh my timeline right now, she's probably still going.

I think Hov probably went. Oh, Cardi, you want the sample? I got you. And Gabe was to it? Mm-hmm. You think he said... I fully think Hove cleared the imaginary players sample based off everything Nikki has been doing.

No. I fully believe that. Get the fuck out of it, man. Listen, I could be... No, man. Pige, make sure you put this in the cut of the IG clip. I can be wrong. I'm, duh.

We're going with the information we have and we're shooting the shit. No. But because I'm a 35-year-old New Yorker, I think imaginary players and I think the Jay-Z song, and I think Cardi B from the Bronx, if she had that title, would flip that beat, and that's why she titled it that. And if there's a whole long story of how it got cleared,

and then all of a sudden it got cleared, everything Nikki has been doing with Des and Ho, and Rock Nation and the enemy that Cardi B is to Nikki Minaj. I can see them going, yo, take that fucking beat. Yeah, but no. I get what you're saying. I get how you put that together. But I don't think Jay is that invested or.

I didn't say it to be invested. Or he doesn't care. He has so much, so many other. I'm sure he was on a yacht with his kids and went, yeah, you could do that. And then moved on with the rest of his fucking life. Does he know that? Nikki is currently like, you know, going on her campaign. Absolutely.

Yes. But I don't think he said, you know what? That sample I told Cardi no to six months ago, get it done. I'm not saying that he said no to the sample. I think it was maybe on the back burner as it wasn't very much of a priority. And maybe the record for Cardi wasn't that much of a priority. There's been a million songs that people do that have samples that you don't get a round of clearing until you've had, you could have a song for three years and a week before you go, yo, I want to put this out, then it becomes a priority.

Now, with everything that's going on with Nikki, yeah, what a stat for Cardi to now wrap on a flip of imaginary players? Like, what if she really starts that whole shit out? It was like, y'all was drinking Casamigos. We all thought it was vodka. Like, what happens then? Nothing. To answer your question, are you asking me?

Nothing. I mean, I'm just listen to it. Nah. That beat, that imaginary players. be is too iconic. Like if that comes in and Cardi talking her shit, because that's what she said in the video, she flexing getting their shit off.

Imaginary players, what is the theme of that record? You know what's going to be funny? This song's going to come out and it's going to have nothing to do with what the fuck Roy's talking about. I'm sure. I'm sure that it is. It's going to have nothing to do with the shit you say. Let me put the pieces together. Yeah, yeah, no, Bill, Bill, Bill.

Of her going, yo, this one of them joins, I'm just really flexing and getting my shit off. Right. I would say volume one, that was the first time Ho was really talking not just drug dealer talk like I

what's a 4.0 to 4.6 like that record in particular 3040 grandcox took a beat like he was flexing so crazy on that record about everybody else why would Cardi's flexed on a million records right why is she using those words in particular imaginary player oh okay I get it we're gonna wait and see when she said this was coming out

Friday Friday but I guess they had to pivot it could be this is Is this how Lucian's son does things? I don't know. Listen, Cardi, I love you. I know it may seem like I don't. And I mean, you know, may take some things I say out of context,

but I love you. Anybody from the Bronx, I know how I feel I'm supporting the Bronx every day. But I'm worried about this album, though. It's just too many things that's happening, leaks and, you know, things not feeling like, you know, Cardi doesn't seem like she's happy

with the way a lot of shit is going. Some of the executives up there that were there that had a big part in her success on the first. I'm no longer there. It's a lot that it seems like Cardi is behind the eight ball on a lot of this shit. You know, announcements of songs leaking and she don't want it to leak. And I'm worried, man.

I'm worried because Cardi is she's a, she's a priority. She's a priority artist in any building she walks in, had great success on her first album, one of the biggest stars that we have. And I'm happy to see her always win in whatever she's doing. but just talking about the music and you know because that's all the other shit is you know i don't i'm just i'm always focused on the music what does the music sound like well well back to back to and again super respect to cardi even after she did her twitter spaces discussing our reaction to outside i feel for again because now friday she has to put a record out and

it doesn't have a visual and she's a visual leading artist like that's very important and what she's also amazing at. So I feel for the second single, I mean, she said with outside, they didn't even have artwork. Yeah, just fucking, all right, whatever, we'll do that. Now it appears like she has to do it again. Yeah.

But this, again, this could be a crazy strategy where this isn't on the album. Outside's not on the album, even though it's in the track listing. But maybe they are shooting videos for the records that they are actually going to push. I just feel for the second time, with Cardi's second album,

that's the most anticipated shit for God knows how long, the first two records don't even have a video. That's crazy. So I fit, this is not a knock on Cardi at all. I feel for her.

Yeah, no. This is fucked up. It's not Cardi's fault. It just seems like the things around her just not going the way she wants them to and, you know, envision in her head. And she seems like she always has to pivot and, you know, make adjustments

with things that are out of, her control, just things that are happening. But, you know, ultimately it's her project, it's her album, so she has to stand behind everything that happens with it. Man. So, yeah, when I say scared, meaning, like, it just feels like, you know, she's got to, she got to do too much, you know, figuring it out and making up for mishaps and things like that. And it's like, she's supposed to just be the artist and she has this vision and she has

the team around her that helps pull the vision together and execute it and get it out. Like, you know, let Cardi create the vision and, you know, the way she wants things to look and sound and feel and then put the team around me to execute it. But it seems like, you know, things keep happening where she got to make videos like this and say, yo, you know, I didn't want that to happen. I'm disappointed that it did, this that and the third. So it's like I hope that doesn't take away from the music. I hope that doesn't affect the music.

I hope doesn't affect, you know, her energy around the rollout and putting things together and, you know, being on top of her game because I'm rude for. I want to see Cardi do big shit. And with an artist and A-list artist, like, Cardi, sometimes it's also not just about the music. It's how it's presented. That's a very important part. So that's where I feel. But I mean, I don't know. If I was at Atlantic now, I would say, yo, let's fly her to San Diego and let's shoot a live video at SeaWorld for imaginary players. Terrible segue, but I love it anyway. No, you don't think like that would be a thing if

Cardi went to SeaWorld. Like, if we have to shoot a video, let's do a live stream. Let's, no, it's, it's, anywhere Cardi goes publicly. You don't think it'd be crazy. with Cardi next to Shamu rapping. Like that would be the way we get the visual. That would be crazy. That would be crazy for anybody next to Shamu rapping. And you could do it like three times too. Like let's go back to one, start it again.

And we tell Shamu, that would be a moment. We didn't get it, do it again. No, I think that would be fucking hilarious. You didn't hit your cue. Go back. When you're not getting no fish, we'll do it again. And Cardi's hilarious. Like, I think a live stream of trying to do a live video that way would be so

fucking funny for Cardi. If you have to find last minute ways to music out. Like, it wasn't so much a segue. Even though I heard Trina, I mean, shut it down. Can somebody shut Seaworld down? Like, for real? Well, Peter tried for years, but y'all didn't let it happen. Y'all. They used our culture to open back the gates.

Look, everybody, Trina there now. Shut it down. With a tongue out. Shout out to Trina. I'm sure Baby D. will be happy to hear that Trina shut down her performance at SeaWorld. I just think it's funny that SeaWorld is attaching themselves to our culture to be, you know, cool, even though animals are being held in captivity. We got the documentary.

We saw it. We were there. We saw the documentary. We should not be supporting SeaWorld. But how is it legal? Support Trina at the same time. No, like, seriously. How is Seattle still?

I have no idea. How are you allowed to do that? I have no idea. There's no regulations of everything we regulate on my, on my own taxes of me. And I'm nobody in the country. I asked you how the first. Are we allowed to have sewer? When we first saw this shit, I asked y'all wasn't, I thought SeaWorld was shut down.

I thought SeaWorld was closed. I thought it was completely shut down. They kill a trainer and just move them from Seattle to San Diego. Got it. Okay. I get it. Yeah. Some pre shit.

Yeah. Just go to see. And you know what's so crazy between Seattle and San Diego? There's a whole Pacific Ocean right there. Yeah. Just let them go. Just let them go home. They're both on the Pacific.

That's when they got them. That's where they got them. quarter mat like just let him go home man but shout out to trina i mean you know she's she doing what she got she was paid to do show up show out and put on the great show and you know that's what she did i would pod from seworld but they would kick us out within five minutes of our conversation yeah because i'm gonna try to find the button open that gate oh no that back gate that goes right into right into the pacific yeah i'm open what was homie's uh name in in uh free willie when got him over the shit.

Yeah. I'm going dressed as him. I'm even bringing the baseball that he broke the window with and I'm trying to

break their fucking tank with a baseball. Oh man. Somebody got arrested. Who the fuck gets arrested at SeaWorld? Yeah, though.

I mean, at a Trina performance at Sea World. I don't know. That kind of checks out. Trina don't got no songs that you should be getting arrested to

unless you get naked. Unless you're taking your clothes off. Fair. Like who won't start fighting for on a Trina record? No, that's plenty of Trina records.

You start fighting? Every collab would trick daddy. I might fight somebody. A girl's definitely fighting. Yeah. Because Trina, as much as she has sexual music, she has fight music for women. There was a whole list of performances, I think. Who's next on the list?

Because they put out a whole list of who's coming. I know Fat Joe's going. I think it's like I love the 90s. I love the 90s is going. Yeah, that's Rob Bass. Rob Base going to SeaWorld is absolutely fucking crazy. Yeah, I don't know. I think it was a hologram of Prince.

was the next one Wait till they try to get Michael Jackson I love the 90s tour Colour me bad Rob Pace Tretch and Young MC Is this the SeaWorld Or this?

They're calling it the SeaWorld Summer Spectacular Concerts It's running until August 23rd Baby Bash was there Ying Yang was there Soldier Boy Bowie. They did there Fat Joe was there in July Waka was there in July

I love the 90s tour was there Trina was just there So now we have Genuine this weekend And then the turned up tour With Pity Pablo Paul Wall J-Cawn and Rory will be there August 23rd That's a fact

In San Diego Would you um Because this is the episode I want to make you feel uncomfortable Would you go on a cruise with me? No See how fast it's not uncomfortable It's answered you no

Okay what if the cruise was The Lox The Brat Jizzah juvenile lupa fiasco mc light exhibit twister dead prez little brother far side paul wall cool g rap ony buckshot smith and wesson nappy roots mc scharrock ed lover house band the 400 degrees band on dj just just on dj jazzy jeff manny fresh dj paul j period dj scratch dj evil d dj cool and it continues on then on top of that you have avion crockett got tory tony rober

Lance Woods. Would you go on that cruise with me? Is that not the greatest cruise you've ever heard in your fucking life? When you say a cruise and then you say the locks is there, and you say Jezza, Juvenile, Lupe.

Oh damn, they took Fab off the list. I felt like Fab was on this at one point. Dead Prez. Miami to the Bahamas with Dead Prez. Like, imagine Dead Prez just screaming white devil by the hot tub in the Bahamas.

That's a lot of, a bucket list thing for me. So this has been sold out for the entire year, and I've went through every publication and rapper on here to see if I could get a cabin. I'm trying, it's the rock, rock the bells. If people don't know, rock the bells, like, I mean, the biggest innovators in the hip hop festival space by far. Shout out to rock the bells.

You've changed all of hip hop with what you did. I have, I've reached out to everyone. I will pay whatever the fuck I need to for a cabin. I'm not looking for. for a free ticket, I will pay. This would be the funnish trip. I'm not saying there'll be hoes there. I just want to see exhibit at the buffet.

To see the lot performing on a cruise ship. Like, imagine chilling with Kiss for four days just from Miami to the bomb. I was just with Kiss. We was at the ball. We was just getting a peanut collado together. And now he's on stage in 10 minutes. Like, look at, I mean, look at the DJ. This is one of the craziest ideas.

This is what, this would be nerd hip hop fire fest and it's actually going to happen. Yeah, this is, this is, this is, this is, uh, Kai University on, on, on, on, on the water. For me. Yeah, for me. This is, this is the streamers university in the ocean for me. Like, you got the locks and then you got. See, because now when you get down a buckshot in Smith and Weston, that's a potonics. I don't know if I want to be on a boat with Onyx fans.

I just don't know. I'm not saying it's not a hard no. I'm saying I don't know. But here's the thing. I think because it's a cruise, most of these people are going to be families. Like the way as men, we get dragged on family vacations.

Most of these niggas is going to be convicted felons too. Yeah, but they change their life around. I don't know. I don't want to find out on the water. And you don't need a passport if you're going by boat from my- I have a passport. I know, as I'm saying. From Miami to the Bahamas, you only need one with flying.

If you're on a boat, you're good. So, yeah, I'm sure everyone is going to be that. But I believe in, you know, redemption. And I think a lot, it's just going to be a bunch of... You believe in prison reform. Clearly, it's important. Look how they treat the prison. I really believe in everything the prison system does in the United States.

That's why we jail so many people more than any other country in the world It's because we're thinking of reform. Absolutely. I think this would be the funnest people watching trip of all time. I would have so much fucking fun on this. That's a crazy lineup. Shout out to everybody on this lineup. It's an incredible lineup.

The locks, the brat. I just don't know if I'm willing to be on the open ocean with Onyx and Smith and Weston fans. I don't want to be on the train with Onyx and Smith and Weston fans a little on it. Rock the bells. I'm telling you now, not that I have any value, especially to this lineup. I will host a three-day podcast panel in the conference room just for a cabin. You don't need to pay me. I'll work for food.

I will work for food. Give me. You know, the shit where everyone died in the Titanic, the people that was like in the bottom, like by the cars where they was, you know, put me. I need to, the club quarters, whatever that shit is at. Yeah. Where all the employees is at. Just put me in one of those bunk. You just need to be on that boat.

I'll wear the same thing every day. I don't even need a suitcase if that takes up too much space. We're talking shit and cracking jokes, but it's all in love, but this shit might be sold out. No, I'm telling you, I can't, I've tried, more, I've tried everything. Oh, it sold out. I would have just bought a cabin. Oh, okay, okay. It's sold out immediately.

It's been, oh, so, never mind. There's some seats available? Is some rooms available? No, because last time I did that, they put me on, like, a waiting list. The wait's over. Don't tell me the way this. Don't tell me the way this. This is what you've been waiting for.

Yeah, it's a waiting. This ship is full, but we may have room for you. Yeah. No, this is sold out, though. I mean, maybe. Oh, okay. We got action. But that's a waiting list.

You can, like, try to get that. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Got you. So I was trying to go, like, direct to them. Yeah. Maybe like, yo, if one pulls up,

out like I'll just send you I'll cash app you bro like what you need yeah who's scalping who's scalping rooms at the at the you know they are at the dock sticky fingers is it yeah shout out the rock the bells man that shit though that's a crazy line of you wouldn't want to go on that with me i just don't know about being on the ship like it's not it's Miami to the Bahamas it's three days it ain't that much and then you get to kick it in the Bahamas like are they performing ownership or like Like when they dock in the Bahamas. Oh, that I actually don't know. I thought for the most part it was on the ship.

I'm sure it's spread out. I'm sure probably like a lot of the DJ shit might be on the boat. Yeah. But like imagine just being on a cruise that you could just see Jazzy Jeff's been. Go upstairs and watch the locks perform. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's on the cruise there. That's one of like, I'll go with the shit cruise or whatever all the documentaries are now on Netflix

of how every cruise ship people are missing. I mean, they're going to have to change the name now to rock the cruise. boat, no? No, I still rocked the both. I mean, they're on the fucking shit. I think this right. That's a layup. No P's. Rock the boat.

You'd have to do a whole Alia set. Look at what Josh is excited about blackjack. Smith and Wesson on there, Josh. Are you fucking kidding? Gizda didn't do it for him. It was like Blackjack. You know, you could literally go right outside and go play blackjack. You can have breakfast next to

Curtis Blow. What the fuck are you talking about blackjack? I could have eggs with Raq Kim. What the fuck are you telling me right now? The soda fountain is free. Yeah. So Josh is there. Oh, man.

But, yeah, I mean, I really want to go. And I could do yoga at the basketball court. That shit looks like it's going to be interesting. And you know you could catch some, like, questionable bodies, but they'd have some good miles on them. Yeah. Them girls would know what they were doing. Yeah. You need that.

Experience. Veterans. And it's approved, though. Yeah. So we're just cruising, we're just chilling. Like any chick that was like, y'all, I'm here for Buckshot. I know that head is crazy. For sure.

Actually, while we're on music, what's up with your man? My man, who? It's going to come across his hate, and I promise this. It's really not hate whatsoever. Why is Aiden Ross the Iceman rollout? Is Aiden Ross the Iceman rollout? I mean, obviously they've been on stream together because of the steak relationship and everything that they've been doing, but he has,

had mentioned that Drake had sent him Iceman already and it was like yeah, that shit, cool. And I could even see it in Drake's face of like, I sent you the album and with the platform you have, that's your reaction. Yeah, but that's fucking crazy. That's not a rollout though. You said that he's the rollout? No, I'm just saying, well, yes, it is part of the rollout. Let's call it for what it is.

Of course it is. His relationship with Aiden, whether it be genuine or because of common business interests, Aiden is a big part of any time Drake speaks. And I just feel like that's cool when you're doing the streaming and gambling thing, because I'm never going to take away from the base that Aiden has. I'm well aware of his platform. But when it comes to music at a time when your music is probably under the biggest microscope it's ever been under since 2008.

Yeah, Aiden is the one that you want to talk music with. Like, he's not even a, like, Aden for hip-hop? Like, what are we talking about? Like, this is the person that you want to go on stream with. Even I came on here and said that Kai should be number one on that hip-hop list, but when it comes down to that, I don't think Kai, I think Kai is a streamer before he's a music person,

which is fine. I'm not saying you have to be that whatsoever. But at least, like, Kai or somebody would have been better to send music to for a reaction and that would go out to the public. This guy? I don't think. What do you think that like the first song he ever heard was in his life? Like, and I'm not saying you had to be somewhere like age.

I'm just saying I don't even think he like listens to music. I don't, I don't think that Drake anticipated he was mentioned anything about hearing the album. I don't think that was a part of the planet. at all. I think Drake looked like he was actually surprised. He even said it. I think he was sick about it. He played it off well. So this is what I'm saying. I don't, so when you say it's the rollout, like, I don't think Drake was anticipating Aiden saying anything about the new music at all. I think Aiden caught him by surprise by just saying that. Like, I don't think that that was part of a plan or a rollout at all. I mean, him and Aiden obviously have a relationship. Yeah, of course.

And Drake, you know, trust him with his music. So he let him hear some of the music. And Aiden just just said it. I mean, I don't, you know. I'm not, I also want to make it clear. I'm not saying Drake being a global superstar, I don't think that the live and die opinion is off like nerdy hip-hop people like me whatsoever. I think the Aiden community is a huge part of his fan base to begin with. He's a global superstar.

People that are just casual music fans, you need their opinion as well. But I don't know. I just think with everything going on, I would have texted him like, I'm never sending you a fucking untitled link again. How you know that's not what he texting him right there? Oh, it definitely could be. It definitely could be. You're fried.

Things are already on edge no matter what. And the only person that has publicly said that they heard the music, he was like, yeah, no, that's you cool. And you're not even like that. Like nobody looks to Aiden for fucking music opinions. That's why I don't think it matters what he said. I don't think that that. No, it just fuels.

I would be frustrated because it fuels a narrative that's being carried already coming off everything. That's why I just think with certain, like, just stick to gam, because he's talked on music with Aiden before and I've never understood it. Like, that shouldn't even be your, I guess, wave with the music side. Keep to gambling, keep to just funny streaming shit with him. Yeah. Music, no, that should be the last fucking thing. that you even speak to that human being about. Yeah, but it don't matter, man.

Trache is... Of course, it's a very small thing. That shit doesn't matter. That shit is very, very small in the bigger scheme of things. But again, him and Aiden have a personal relationship and Aiden just wanted people to know he heard the album. You know, for whatever reason.

I don't know why he would say that. It is what it is. But I don't think it's anything wrong with that. I don't think that does anything negative for the role I don't think it does anything negative for the way people are going to receive the music. Once they have the music, which is what they seem to do with any Drake album over the years, they'll love it.

It's that simple. I don't think anything changes. Drake should be extremely intentional with every move he's about to make. And I just don't think that's the one. Because even like- But how is that a- Drake's move? That's not a Drake move.

That's just saying any of the- Let me lay my point. Even back in the day, like, I remember, and I'm not spilling any news, per se. There was a time where there was a Drake Dropbox that had just been sent to so many fucking people that they were just uploading music. Like, I heard half of

CLB because there was just a Dropbox. That was just being shared everywhere because he was sending it to certain people. And I'm not saying Aiden wouldn't hold it down or anything like that, but like you're dealing with people that would be more on the side of, hey, I have

this than, hey, let me hear it. and to me that's a problem in this time that's all i understand yeah i get it but i don't know i'm looking forward to to iceman um he and i put out something literally just now i don't know if this is a trailer for a tour coming to a city near you with a bunch of tour footage um what did i miss in the background uh if he's already announcing a tour for iceman and i don't know if that's the case here, I would assume Iceman would be coming out Friday. Like, have you putting out a tour announcement? I'm going to go on the side of this is probably a visual movie going to be available in theaters.

Okay. So people that aren't at the shows overseas can get a, you know, get a glimpse of the show, can watch the show, maybe stream it at some point. Look at all the production that's going to do. to the show to set, you know, that behind the scenes in-depth look of a Drake show. I think this is probably going to be like a, yeah, one of those like a, you know, short, short film type of thing. Oh, I mean, I'd love that type of stuff.

I actually kind of miss, I mean, not so much like fade to black, but just like that used to be a thing for huge artists where their concerts would be in movie theaters. Yeah. If you couldn't catch it. So if that's the case, yeah, I think that's a great idea. Yeah, I would like that. I think that would be dope. Yeah.

Some different shit, cool shit. For sure. All right, you guys wanted to talk about this. Preseason game. You guys already think he's fucking Joe Montana. But what's up? I mean, it's like, no, no, go ahead. Go ahead.

It's a fucking preseason game. Listen, it is a new number 12 in town. There's a new number 12. Again, it's going to come off his head. Lori. Do you. Listen, there's a new number 12. There's a new number 12 in town.

And he has melanin this time, all right? Should George Sanders? It's not the melanin. It's the brown and orange of the jersey that he wears that is a curse of every goddamn quarterback that comes out of the league. Shador is a legend already. Stamped him. Stamp him. He's a legend.

He's on his way to Canton. It is what it is. It's right there. It's an hour away. It's right there. But no, Shador's saying his preseason debut was this week, this weekend. And he did a great job, man. You look good.

Listen, 138 passing yards, two TDs. He looked good. Even getting 23 attempts in a preseason game to begin with. Listen, we talk about-it's crazy. Being under the microscope, we know what your door is under right now. Everything that happened, draft night, you know, with all of the writers and, you know, all of the experts were saying about him. He went out there this past weekend and, you know, he put all of that to bed.

He put on a solid performance. He did know. Nothing's been tucked in. There's been no bedtime. I feel, I think so. I think this is just a, yeah, but regardless, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's great. But that's why I don't like that. It's a preseason game.

Because if it was a preseason game and he played like shit, they would say he played like shit. It wouldn't be, oh, it's a preseason game. Because he played well, not saying you, but I'm just saying, that's what writers say. Oh, it's a preseason game. Okay, cool. But had he went out there and went fucking seven for 30 and through four interceptions, would it have just been a preseason game then?

And I know you're not. saying, I'm saying that. But with my take, I would have been like, yo, it's a preseason game. Let him get his footing. Like, let him like that. If he went fucking 0 for 23, I'm like, you know, like, give him a chance. Another reason why I don't like that, it's a preseason game, is because that's still NFL players. That's a fact. And first of all, NFL players that are in playing for a spot. In the most pressure job interview, any of us could ever even fucking imagine. I sit there and say,

yo, I'm proficient in Microsoft Excel. I could never imagine if there's this many roster spots and I have four games in a very weird

put together NFL game where people are getting subbed out. We don't even know. Every move I make is one, I get one play and that'll define my existence here.

Yeah. I could never understand that pressure. But that's why I also say it's preseason. Like, if he shit the bed, I wouldn't be here sland around him. I'm preseason.

Let the kid. No, let the kid. Let the kid get some snaps. People would be absolutely, he's under a huge microscope. Everything he does, everything he says, everything he wears, everything. Everything is under a microscope for Shador Sanders. I'm just happy that he went out there.

He let his game do the talking, put on a great performance, looked solid, look good, look comfortable. And again, man, I'm just, you know, just happy to see that he put it together and under the pressure was able to perform and put together a good game. that's all. Meanwhile, his man's is playing both ways in Jacksonville in a preseason game. Can't get a fucking rest. No, but that's what he's. He got time to rest and shit. His man's, Paul, is going both ways in the NFL.

Only his pops did that. I mean, you know, Troy Brown. I don't think Travis Hunter is going to be a two-way player his entire career, though. I think that's, he's going to have to pick. I think they're trying to figure out. Yeah, figure out where we're going to put him. But he looked okay. He did.

He had a decent game. But again, you know, for both for them, it's early. I'm just happy that, you know, they look comfortable. They're settling in. With Shorty in the stands? Who's Shorty. I don't know his wife's name. Travis Hunter?

Oh, I don't, I don't know. Miss Hunter. Yes, Mrs. Hunter. No, I have no idea. But something happened a couple weeks ago, and you know how you see things online and you kind of just like put them to the back. Like, I didn't just see that. So now, first of all, prayers to Dion Co.

Coach Dionne Sanders, he revealed that I think he was battling bladder cancer or something like that. They caught it. He had surgery. Everything is good. So, you know, he put out a video talking about him dealing with that and having to overcome, you know, such a hurdle as serious as that. But it was the video he posted. He was with somebody that I was very confused. I didn't know what was happening

I know I understand Roy I miss a lot of things that happened online I don't subscribe to a lot of things y'all have to tell me yo you know this happened I'm like work but nobody I felt like nobody told me this I felt like this was something I just bumped into and was like what is happening

what is going on so coach Sanders released a video in the hospital with his night nurse with he had company with him but the company was somebody that we recognize and we know as Carucci Sanders. We recognize and as we know.

Isn't her last name Sanders? Oh, I thought it was Sanders. It's Mrs. Sanders. Well, now it is. No, I'm joking. He was with Carucci. Now, Carucci is, you know, beautiful, talented. I just never thought I would see Carucci and Dion, Coach Dion Sanders.

Why are you referring like Miss Lauren Hill? Like you just call him Dionne Sand. Nah, no, you don't. You don't do that to no coach. He's always coach. It's coach first. It's like doctor. He didn't coach you though.

Like to be showtide. No, he could be. That's coach Dionne. The greatest athletes of all the time. That's coach prime. Okay, my bet. He was in a- You were such a Colorado fan.

He was in a hospital room with Carucci. And I felt like that didn't get the attention that. I was so confused about that. I was like, again, that was the Leonardo moment. Like, yo, that's, what the f? Nobody, like, did I miss the part where Dionne Sanders and Carucci are dating? Did I miss that? I'm dead ass.

I legitimately thought that was AI. I was like, all right, they're getting very tricky with this shit. Okay, so Complex Postal, I guess somebody asked him about Carucci, and they're saying he cut the interview short, citing a bad connection. after rumors surfaced and a video show Tran emotional and a hospital after Coach Sanders cancer diagnosis. Yeah, I'm just, what is happening?

What is going on, man? Where did they meet out of this relationship? Where did it? Like, it wouldn't make now, if Shador walked out the tunnel and was with Karachi, makes all the sense. Get it. Shador, Young, you know, do your thing.

Cool. But Pops? Coach, Prime, like, and Carucci? I just, we know now, I know better than most because I'm a little older than you. Dion, he's that guy. Prime is that dude. One of the greatest athletes. One of the biggest personalities in sports, biggest sports figures we've ever seen.

And somehow, I'm still not familiar with his game. Karoochee? Dog. Prime, this is better than when them diamond turfs dropped. When the diamond turfs dropped, we went crazy in the hood with the diamond turfs. The Karuchi rollout, Coach Prime and Karachi rollout beats pumps in the bumps, the bumps, the Deion Sanders, MC Hammer, all of that shit is to the back burner when it comes to finding out Coach Sanders and Karucci are dating?

And that's what the question mark, because I don't even know. Well, happy birthday to coach just passed, August 9th. Happy birthday, Coach. Five years old. Carucci, which I appreciate that she doesn't lie about her age. She looks incredible, 37. Beautiful. Incredible.

I'm just saying I thought I knew. 21 years is like, I don't know. I thought I knew all about Coach Prime's game. I thought I was seeing them all, his greatest, plays, his greatest highlights, his greatest interceptions. We know he got hands. Here's my thing. I just didn't know his game.

I didn't know. Here's my thing. I just don't know how I'd feel. This went back to the Bill Belichick conversation we were having, even though that's drastically different than this one. This is 21 years. This makes the Belichick shit look like Christian. But if you're at somebody's pops, like, no, I'm not meeting your boyfriend that's the same age as me.

okay okay yeah like that's never gonna happen like if like if if if if if Amara at 37 years old

got a boyfriend and he was like yo man yo I used to listen to the pod every day which you're like no get the fuck away from me and get the fuck away from my daughter

yeah that's a grown woman that's a grown woman with her own income she can do whatever the fuck she want I'm not your shit on Cruci I'm only speaking from a very small father perspective of two and a half years where I would just be like, dude, get, no, get out of my fucking house.

Yeah, I get it. I just thought it would weird. I don't care if you're Dionne Sandin. None of us have ever spoken about that. I haven't seen anybody speak about it. I don't know if people even care to speak. I just thought that that was one of the most random things that I had seen. you talk about keeping a relationship private.

We had no idea. And the way you even announced it of just crying at it. Like, wait, hold on, no, when you see I'll hold hands first. Oh, I'm watching the video with coach. Like, you look like you in his will. I'm watching the video with coach talking about overcoming. I'm like, damn, Dion, he just had to get, I think, like, five or six of his toes amputated a couple years ago.

So it's like, damn, like, he just got over that. And it's like to find out that he just had to, had to be. bladder cancer? Yeah. So I'm like, damn. And then to see him talking like, he's like, yo, you know what I mean? I don't know how, you know, things we be fighting, you know, try to keep it private with the family.

Emotional shit. I'm like, damn. Like to see, you know, this is Dionne Sanders, bro. This is one of your childhood heroes. I'm like. Him having bladder cancer already was like, damn. And then. But then it pans to Karucci crying in the hospital.

I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going on out here? Like, I had, and again, I know I miss shit. I don't subscribe to a lot of shit. I don't see shit when half of the world sees it. I catch that shit very late. I don't know if anybody knew about this outside of his family. I don't know if anybody knew about Karushi and Deion. Forget dating.

I don't even think people knew Karachi and Dion knew each other. I had each other's phone number. So to see her in a hospital room emotional with him, it's like, bro, what the fuck did I? is happening out of you? God willing, I'm alive when I'm 60 and you're alive when you're 70. And I hit the group chat. Josh still there, P. still there. DeMere's still there. We're getting ready to record. And I say, yo, I just saw a video of Amara with Lamar Jackson in the hospital. What are y'all saying to me? Again, I'm not here to judge. Yeah.

Yeah, that's wild. Like, yo, we just... That's wild. When you put it like that... That's not insane to you? Yeah, that's wild. Putting it like that is crazy. Like, I don't even know.

That's how I viewed that whole thing. I would be like... I think my first question was, where the fuck did she meet Lamar Jackson at? Like, where was she? How the fuck... If it was a quarterback that was playing at... When she's 30 years old, I'd be like,

I mean, I get it. I'm sure social media. Somehow somebody met somebody. Parties and some. How did you meet Lamar Jackson? He's... Oh my gosh. Lamara.

Yeah, I don't know, man. Lamara would be a hilarious. Lamara. Yeah, I don't know. I just felt like that was some personal shit. I just wanted to bring to the room. That's a personal shit. Because I was so confused.

I was like, yo, did I miss? And then y'all were just as confused as I was. So I'm like, okay, so we're all... I really thought it was AI. So we're all confused together. Okay, fine. It's not even... If I saw them walk in a red carpet or whatever,

I'll be like, that's crazy. But that'd be crazy, but even that makes you. All right. Whatever. Yeah. But in the hospital room, announced to us that he just beat Blattaca. I was like, I don't know. I was just completely thrown off.

That was a curveball. Coach Prime, like we found out you beat cancer. Salute the Coach Prime, man. Yeah, man. He's, you know. Simulation. I don't know. But I'm glad to know that coach is recovering and he is cancer-free.

You guys are going to. get me in trouble with all my actual friends that are going to text me with this fucking podcast. Because I know Aaron, friend of the show, was Karooch's best friend. We're going to get a text off that. And y'all are going to get me in trouble with Chase. I know with that Travis Scott clip, I'm going to get fucking smoke. I hope Aaron text me and explain. But Aaron doesn't owe us a... No, I mean, but now that we spoke about it, you know what I'm saying? We love Aaron. Aaron. Aaron is a huge friend of the show. I met Karucci. She's super sweet, super nice. Great. I'm... I was just like, they...

shout out to the team for holding that under wraps that that never got out like that to me is I'm just speaking to that was just so random and then the funny shit is it's probably not random they probably been dating for a year you know what I'm saying so we just found out but it was that was just so random

so left field sorry for throwing this shit off track I just was trying to understand what the fuck was happening in the simulation called the world do you think I'll be able to go back to camp in Houston why wouldn't you be because we all decided to clip me saying Travis Scott is going to be the biggest fall off in history.

But it wasn't a... But the way you said it was... It doesn't matter. It doesn't, but it does. But you were saying more so because Travis's focus is not going to be so music heavy. Like, that's what you were saying. It's like... You're making sense and I was making sense.

That doesn't matter when people will see a clip. Yeah, but that doesn't... They're going to jump me at camp. Nobody cares about it. Those are all my guys out there. Nobody, nobody cares. Like, why did you say that? Because I feel that way.

Yeah, that's why it's like, it's not disrespect. It's just, you know, you honestly feel. Like, again, it's because of his, his focus. Travis is not, I don't really think he, Travis makes so much fucking business and money. Like, he's, music is just another thing. Like, not saying he doesn't love create music and performing. He's one of the greatest performers we have in our culture.

But I could see it getting to a point where he's like, you know, I got so much other shit going on that the music is kind of, it takes a seat in the back. Like, I can see that. I think the Jackboy's idea is great. I just don't think it's that progressive of what Travis has been doing. And utopia to me wasn't it. Don Talbot was his artist, right? Is that his artist?

I don't know contractually anymore where that was, but yeah. I mean, Don was writing a lot of the shit that I love from Travis. I don't know if it's the same anymore. I think Don't tolerated. Yeah, no, he's incredible. I think he's so underrated. Like, I don't think people talk about Don Tyler enough. Like, he's extremely talented. The way Don't Oliver is to Travis, I feel, is the way Leon Thomas was to tie.

And I think, again, Ty and Travis both icons in their own right. I think their predecessors are going to pass them, just the way time does. Now the shit works. Like, yeah, I think it's just time. for the people that were your prodigies to move to take your spot. Was that, that was made in America. We saw Donner, right? He went on before Bad Bunny.

That was incredible. Like, I was kind of worried when they say, yeah, Don Todd was going on before Bad Bunny. I'm like, I don't know if that's a good idea. I mean, if you saw his performance, you could clearly see he's definitely got a lot of sauce from music, incredible, but also a lot of sauce from Travis and how he performs. Yeah.

Like, that set was incredible. It was dope. Shout to Don't know. Either way. Chase, Aaron, I don't know, I'm sorry. It's all love, man. It's all love. It's never all love when you say it's all love.

We ain't got to agree with everything. God damn it. We ain't going to agree with everything. Some shit going to feel a little weird and we're going to talk about it and we're going to try to figure out. But now me and Pige can't go back to the spot. Go anywhere, man. Go anywhere, man. That's true because, I mean, you carry a gun in Houston.

Even if you can't, you can go anywhere. There's nowhere you can't go, bro. I don't see. That's like the last final words to a lot of people. You think you could go anywhere. No. Now, there'd be places where I'd be like, I shouldn't. Not based off a saying you think Travis is going to have the biggest fallout.

Yeah, but now people take things. People are emotional. And I'm not saying chase or anyone like that. But people crash out to show their, the worth they don't have. Somebody crashing out on you because you said you feel like Travis guy is going to have. Yeah. That is crazy. You know how crazy that.

You know what happened? Why they fucked them? Yo, somebody saw Roy. Roy said Travis going to have a major falloff and homie saw him and just, what? Yeah. No, that's nothing to crash out of life. I mean, I prefer. I would prefer that over somebody like lying about checking energy.

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I have two friends, and for humor's sake, let's call them Rory and Moll. Rory had a crush on this one girl ever since we were all in college, but he never shot a shot. He was real passive about it. I have to be this character. Not knowing Roy's feeling for this old, for this woman. He comes right in, and he has a relationship with his woman, and they have a kid together. The breakup was so nasty that Moll and this woman can't even be in the same room with each other

without it getting nasty. Fast forward to 2025. We're all in our 40s. We all kind of reunite at a mutual friend's wedding. And ever since then, everybody's kind of leveled up. Rory, he has like a secure, nice six-figure job. Oh, thanks, man. Single, he's leveled up.

You know, Maul, he's moved on. He's married. He has a second child with his, you know, new marriage. And Old Girl also moved up as well. She's doing really good, too. Long story short. Roy and old girl kind of reunite and catch up during the reception. Roy gets inspired and he feels like he wants to shoot his shot finally.

Getting inspired. I tell him it's not a good idea because at the end of the day, that's still moms. That's still mall's baby moms. And I feel like that's just wrong. Rory's justification is Moll and old girl hate each other. You know, what's wrong with that? And he also feels like if it makes it even worse. If anything, let me at least talk to Moll about my intentions first.

So is Rory out of line in this situation? Yes. What the fuck? Yeah, once you have kids with a woman and like your home, you can't, you can't go behind your homeboys. And, and, and no. No. We've even spoken plenty of times where I just find it, uh, sleeping with the same, even if it was just like a whore. Mm-hmm.

Sleeping with the same person that my man's did. If you have a kid with, like, it wouldn't even enter my mind to do that. Yeah. That's fucking nuts. Even if we haven't spoken, like, let's say it was in college shit. We ain't spoken in, because they said they're in the 40s. But in the next situation, they're still friends, though. Yeah, no, for sure.

Now, if they're not friends, is it cool? Hell no. Okay. That's nasty as fuck. No, I agree with you. I'm just saying, like, but some people would be like, yo, but if they wasn't friends, is it? There's friends I've fallen out with that I would never, again, even think about fucking somebody that they, let alone had a kid with. But just, I don't know.

how that could enter your mind would even stick to me. No, yeah, no, he's, to answer your question. I got enemies that I wouldn't even fuck their girl because it's like, we was friends, that, ew, like, but, yeah. And I know it's supposed to be the misogynistic podcast

because Demaris isn't here too. To me, that's also corny because now you're like just using a woman as a way to get back it's the, ugh, I don't know. I just don't like that type of shit. Yeah, no, I get it. To answer his question, yeah, no,

he's filed for that. He can't, nah. And you're all at the wedding too? And then he's saying, yo, he's going to holl at him to talk to him like, yo, you know, me and your baby moms. Like, how's that conversation even go? He's like, yo, talk to, what do you mean talk to him? Like, what is that conversation? And even.

Yes, me and my baby mother hates each other, but like. Not even like he was fucking. I'm going to go up to him be like, yo, he wants to shoot a shot at your baby mother. I might ruin that reception. Yeah. Just off GP. Like, wait, hold on. Yeah, no.

I'm not. I've moved on in my life, but you're not about to just, you ask. me if he could go shoot his shot at my BM at a wedding. Yeah. And the funny shit about this. But also like why this is a creepy ass setup. No. Did anyone even ask her if she's interested?

The funny shit is I feel like he's one of the gentlemen. Oh, this was. I don't know which one he is. I'm trying to figure out in his tone. I think he's the one that wants to holler at the girl. Was that not obvious? I'm just saying, I mean, I don't want to just put. that on his jacket. I'm putting it on his jacket

confidently that he is the person that says, yo, I got this friend, but I'm talking about myself. And put it on us. Yes. He is the guy that at 40 years old, he's the guy that wants to sleep with the baby. With the baby mother, yeah. Damn, I hope not, man. I hope, I hope. Why do you think he's asking?

Because he knows he's wrong. No, I believe he's one of the guys, but I think he's the but he don't sound like he got kids, though. He don't sound like he married. Wait, what's that sound like? struggle depression fair you could see it in my you can see in the wrinkles under my eyes um not wait but the but me in this instance you're married and moved on no i have oh yeah

you're married yeah you're married and moved on has another kid i have i have six figures to play with like i'm i'm i'm throwing money at the wedding like you it's an open bar but i got like i'll pay for the drink yeah like i'm that guy there so i think that's him Okay, so he's the one that wants to sleep with the baby mom. Mm, all right. 100%. Either way, don't do it, man. Don't do it.

But then if you think about it. Reconsider. Read some litter. They both. They both there. Nah, I've never heard that song. They're both there. So that means that the kids have to be with a babysitter.

So she's free that night. Mm. There's so many other women you could phone. There's just so many women. Yeah, man, go find a woman that has done, doesn't know none of your friends. Like, that's very easy to do. Like, yeah, you don't, don't do that. That's, he's, he's filed for that.

He's definitely filed for that. Correct me if I'm wrong. Did he like her? Well, did I like her in college? Yes. So this is like the ghost of pussy pass that he never got. This is the ghost of the best man. But the opposite.

He never beat, but he wanted to be. Like he liked her and then his man's, ah, wait, hold on. Now we're getting deeper into this. He may hold resentment because he probably told his man's, yo, I like her. And then his man swooped in and got her pregnant. And he feel away now. But that was supposed to be his queen, his whole life.

So 20 years past, everybody's single. It's not your queen. So that's simple. I see you trying to put the whole play together in your mind. Let me stop right there. Was it more chestnut's queen? Because it was. Yeah, but they didn't have a baby together.

That's true. Yeah. That changes it. Yeah. That right there changes it. You could have dated, had sex cool. once you have a family no you can't do that bro i'm sorry they're like freshman year there was like girls that me and my friends would compete with like in a

not a funny way per se but like we all understand that that's a pretty chick that's cool holding on to that 20 years later is fucking insane like yeah like yeah night he just got to plymouth rock first you got to plymouth rock like i don't know like you just got to like You got to deal with that. Yeah. Don't do it though, man, please. Like holding on to that 20 years later. Yeah, he want that.

He want that bad. My thing is if you wanted it that bad, why you ain't never? Because he said he never approached her. He never, like, in school. Like, he never, you know what I'm saying? Like, try to date her. He kind of tucked his feelings. Whereas other homie went straight out of.

Like, yo, what's up? Like, I like, I want to date you. Yeah. That's where I think you can't hold on to that because you didn't make a fucking move. Let it go. Yeah. Let it go.

Wasn't no other women at the wedding? Because they saw each other at the wedding, you said, right? There wasn't more women at college? Yeah, like, don't do that, man. Leave that girl alone. Well, tell your friend if it's, we're talking because we know what's him. Yo, don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't try to put us as a scenario in that story. Do not sleep with your friends, baby moms. That's going to just make things very complicated. And then at the weird. At a wedding. Yeah, no, don't do that. Please don't do that.

We got another one. That was it. Hey, y'all. It's Kay from Atlanta. It's a quick question. I know y'all fly a lot. So I wanted to know what kind of songs do you all put on your flight playlist? And if you listen to music,

because I think one time Demer said she doesn't listen to music while cleaning, which I think is absolutely insane to be sweeping. Did she say that? With no sound, just the sound of brim. But still love you, baby. Love the hair, love everything. But I would love to know what type of songs, what genre, like what do you like to listen to when you're on a flight,

maybe a long flight versus a very short fight. I don't know. And lastly, I have a bonus pick. We have to stop with the NY bias, okay? Some of the albums y'all hate on are actually good. Like, I feel like there's different sounds for different moments. Am I going to be listening to Jack Voice too if I'm trying to put somebody on a rapty rap?

No. Okay. That God sort of know. but Jack Boys 2 is not a bad album Anyways Would love to know what Texas songs you all listen to

When you're flying And yeah Love y'all I don't love y'all I don't know why I said that I like y'all I respect it I respect it

I fuck okay No I don't love y'all No I fuck okay Yo Kay Clayley better like I don't love you I don't even know why I just said that Like I like y'all though I like y'all lot

I respect that We respect that and we like you a lot too Ironically, with the Jack Boys 2 thing, that's where I think things get misconstrued. We always have an NY bias. Like how else the definition of a bias. That's where I'm from. I didn't dislike Jack Boys too because it wasn't rap-dip-wrap-wrap like the clips. I compare Travis's catalog to his catalog.

No other catalog. I thought it was low for his catalog. I don't look for Travis for any rap-ty-rap shit. I lose my mind if Travis tried to rap-ty-wrap shit. Like, what the fuck is you doing? So to get that out of the way. Her first part, on a plane, I'm definitely not listening. If you listen to Jack Boys 2 on a plane, you're a psychopath and an air marshal should take you off.

It depends on where you're going. I think the music you listen to on your flight depends on when you're going. Like, how? You're in the air. No, I just think it's a mood. Like, that you, if you know. If you know you're going on vacation, like, I'm going to go to the islands and chill for a couple days. Like, I think your playlist is different if, I think, you're going to be a lot of

if I'm going to Atlanta for the weekend. Absolutely. When I land for sure, I agree there. But in the air, no. Yeah, in the air, you got to get in that zone, man. If it's turbulence, I'm going Kirk Franklin the whole flight. I'm going now behold the lamb on Reefee. Hey, Kirk, if you get an uptick and now behold the lamb,

just know that I was taking one of them long flights. And it was some chop along the way. I'd probably say some chop. It was some chop along the way. In the words of Woolha Street, you don't know shit about chop. But the amount of voice notes, when it gets like, turbulence goes crazy, I get on my quiet voice note shit. The amount of voice notes and text messages that I've just put in notes

that have never been sent because I've been paranoid on a plane, like should be its own coffee table book. Wait. I have, like, legitimately, like, said my piece to people on certain flights. You know why I know you're crazy? I've always known you. were crazy. But this information, let me tell you why you're crazy. You think they would find that phone? No, no. I would send them. Like when it starts getting bumpy, like I told you, I've been on flights.

We had air pockets and people's shoulders were separated. Like, there's been time. I've been on some crazy flights. Yeah, I had shit sitting there like, yo, the moment this shit goes, I'm hitting send. Not that they're going to find my. You think it's going to go through? Yeah. I think the, I think the, I think the Wi-Fi will still work. You did that Wi-Fi on that. Yo, he's crazy. That Wi-Fi, if the plane is going down, I promise you, your voice note is not making it. But it's also my peace of mind of, like, thinking when I'm about to die, at least, like, maybe I could get my thoughts off to somebody.

Okay, I get that. Like, 9-11, we see the documentaries they're calling in. When they use their phone names when you call your mother. Like, I would call my mom, be like, hey, mom, it's Rory Farrell. Yeah. You talk about those calls from 9-11? Those are the calls I'm talking about. When you had the phone was on the back of the sea,

you had to get the credit card, swipe it. Hey, mom. Those calls. Hey, mom, it's Rory. Yeah. Farrell. Yeah, yeah. Farrell, naturally.

What other Rory would it be? They think we're so fucking dumb. It's crazy. But yeah, I've done that plenty of times on planes. Yeah, no, I listen to music, depending on where I'm going. I love listening to new music on long flights. because it just helps, you know, I have nothing else to do. I'm either sleep or the music is playing in my ears so I can hear it

and kind of get into the music a little more. But it changes for me. Again, if I'm going to vacation, playlist is a little more, you know, R&B, little mellow. If I'm going to L.A. for BET weekend, I'm listening to Ravon, the whole flight. If I'm going to, you know. Because it's your supporting. I'm supporting. I'm listening.

Like we always have. I'm always trying to support. Keeping the same energy of supporting always. Just supporting. That's all I'm doing. I'm supporting my people. You are keeping the same energy. But yeah, depending on where I'm going, I listen to the music based on, I know it's weird or it may seem weird.

I'm sure other people do it too. But depending on where I'm going, where I'm headed on a flight, it depends on exactly what I'm listening to. Does altitude make y'all more emotional? I will say this. All right, Pete? Yeah, altitude makes me more emotional. Like, there'll be certain movies or music that I've listened to a million times. There's something about altitude that just.

Maybe it's the less oxygen in your brain. Or more oxygen because it's being fed through the fucking same vent. I don't know. Go on Joe Rogan's podcast and you can figure out why. I'm just saying I feel more emotional on a plane. I will say this. One of the most beautiful songs to listen to when it's like you're taking one of those morning flights and it's sunny out. You know, you get above the clouds and you see nothing but just blue sky and sun.

Fancy by the dream. Oh my God. I feel like a homosexual whenever I play that. So I was going to bring up an example of me bawling my eyes out watching the Amy Winehouse documentary on a flight. I didn't know fancy got you there. Bro, listen to Rory. Listen, because you're laughing at me. I know.

Listen, the next flight you take, the next flight you take, I'm talking about those sunny morning flights is nothing. As soon as you get above the clouds and it's like, yo, I didn't even know it was a whole other airspace above the clouds like this. and it's just blue and sun put fancy on by the dream and i dare you not to cry it is the most glorious beautiful piece of music you will ever hear in your life at 30,000 feet i'm i'm gonna try it but every time like like i played like march 15th and cried on on plane like i've i've purposely listened to like really emotional music i'll give it a go with fancy bro listen to fancy but like what like which part of the song like get you there like like What is the one?

I don't, it's just, it's just the music. It's just like, damn, it's so, it's, and then looking out the window, you see it's just blue skies and it's just, the music is just, it just hits you differently. I'm so much smaller than what I, I think I am. Look at, yeah. And the scope of the universe, it's just like, look at me. Right? It's that type of thing.

What's fucked up is because you're going to call me more crazy. When I'm on planes, that is like one of the main things. When I look out of the one, I'm like, yo, I do not matter at all. I don't mean that. No, I really don't mean that in a depressing way. He gets window seats so he can think to itself how much he doesn't. Can I get a window seat?

Don't want nobody next to me. Yo, look at out the window like, if I do is talking, I do not matter. Like, I do not matter at all. You know,

I usually say things in a depressing state because I talk about that a lot. I don't mean that in a depressing thing. It's actually more of like a relief. Yeah. Of like, dude, like, like, like,

so many things do not. It's so much. Like, when you fly from New York to L.A., the shit that you just fly over of the hundreds of thousands of stories of the little people down there. It's like, though, my life does not matter that much.

At all. Like, I'm overstressing about my life. And that's why I think altitude puts things in perspective. Like, yeah, we're supposed to be up there because I've never understood why you have to go 30,000 feet. Like, just put me at 10,000 feet. Just get me there quicker. Which I'm sure it's probably

you can go quicker when you're higher up there. Well, private jets don't fly that hot. They don't go 30,000 feet. I've never been on a private jet my life. Yeah, it's a little low. It's about 20,000 feet, I'm guessing. Because even when you're on a flight, you never look out the window and see, like, private jets under the air. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Yeah, so they're probably. But I just assumed that was like, I mean, since DEI has hit, I don't know with the control towers. Yeah, we don't know who's in those towers. Yo, how does your party, like really view DEI? Like, they think they just really be like, hey, yo, yo, if you're a woman, just come fly these planes, bro. Like that's how they think D.E.I. Oh, my God. Like, nah, we just need to fill the quota.

Like, you know, you ever use the MacBook? You could be in the control tower now. That is fucking hilarious. Kay, thank you for that voicemail. We appreciate it. Hi, man. Let's get the fuck out of here, man. Yeah.

And if you're listening to us on a plane, it's okay to cry. It's okay to cry right now. Start crying right now. We'll talk to you soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigger. He's just just.

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