New Rory & MAL - Episode 397 | Imaginary Podders

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

It's been a busy week. We've been working OT over here. We keep it pushin though with Rory addressing Cardi B screaming in his DM's (24:46). Billboard is in the middle of releasing a Top 25 Producers of the 21st Century list and it makes no sense smh (37:08). Cam'ron makes a fool out of Omar Gooding and proves once again why nobody should want any type of smoke with this man.(44:55) Plus, Rory and Mal still intend on watching the new Ye documentary (57:33), and a caller gets real about his sex drive after the birth of his child (1:12:47) #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. The volume. I have my hangover glasses on today. These lights, I did not expect to hurt my eyes the way that they do. I would have done a better fit, too. I did not expect these to make my eyes water. I thought she was about to play the drums or something.

Those are like drummershades. These are my breezy bowl hangover shades. Breezy bowl hangover. You got a breezy bowl hangover. Go home. Why are you trying to hang out with? Chris. He just did a five-hour set and you're trying to hang out and kick it after?

Oh, you're disgusting. I started impressing with how much I could drink. Oh, my God. You're disgusting. You're disgusting. But anyway, we're back. Sponsored by Boost Mobile. And do remember that we do still have merch on sale.

Yes. Patreon.com, new Rory and all. No ads. $5 per month. You can listen to everything. Ad free at any moment. Free. I like hearing an ad sometimes, though.

Sell me something. Sell me some stuff. I like when marketing works. Yeah. Like I like being tricked sometimes. Sometimes I like seeing a commercial and go, yes, White Castle. I will drive up the street. Yeah, but it's hard to get tricked by ads now, though.

I think if you get tricked by something. It just reminds, I just think it reminds you sometimes of like things that you missed. Yeah. People are like, oh, my God, I spent money on this and I got it and it wasn't what I thought. And then I look at the picture, I'm like, well, why did you even buy this in the first place? Yeah. What did you think this was going to do for your life? I tell you no, Peach likes that girl.

I've never heard his phone ringing my life. Got to keep the ring on, right? You know what I miss? No call. Vibrate doesn't do it. Yeah. But yes, I had a great time at the Breezy Bowl. Shout out to Bryson Tiller, Summer Walker and Chris Brown.

MetLife Stadium this week in New Jersey. Two nights in a row sold out. Shout out to Bryson for pulling up. We got an episode of next week. Next week. We have a Bryson Tiller episode. Bryce and Tiller episode coming soon. Very interesting conversation right now. Our chance episode is out.

We had this week, because we did chance this week too, right? Yeah. I'm like, everything's blurred at this. After the breezy bowl, I can't even remember. I can't even remember anything. Life has been a blur. It wiped my hard drive of everything. Yeah, once you see Chris flying around, like, life is just like a, like, what is life?

Like, look at it. That's all I have in my head right now. You think that you feel small when you're on the plane. Imagine how Chris feels. flying over football stadiums every night looking down on all of you. Like, you all mean nothing. You were so small in his world. He didn't miss a word while doing backflips to look at me now 30 feet in the air.

Yeah, man. I know rappers that can't get through a 16th. He hit every fucking word while flipping through the air. But yes, we'll get to that. We had a great conversation with Chance. I had wanted to hear from Chance in a while. Like, I just felt like so much went on in his life. So I thought that was a cool conversation.

Bryson conversation was great. Can't wait if that's come out. So we leave here yesterday, and I thought the apocalypse was happening. I had never heard biblical thunder like that. I don't know where you were when that was happening, but in New Jersey, my brand new house was shaking. It's like made of bricks, my house. You've seen my house. It's like a structure.

Yeah. It was shaking. I knew it was going to rain. I didn't know it was going to storm like that, though. I had just got home as soon as it started to rain. And I was like, you know, let me just chill for a minute. And I head back out, go to MetLife, you know, to catch the show. And then you called me because the tickets were under my name and you needed a ticket.

So we got that squared away. And I asked, I said, you know, they gave me a band. They gave me a band to get on the field, but not into the. Yeah, not into the stadium. I couldn't get on the grounds. So we handled that situation. We got over that obstacle, that hurdle. And I said, yo, is it still raining over there?

Because I was, you know, everybody or most people in my timeline were at the show. and they showed at one point everybody was inside by the concession waiting for the rain to stop. So I'm like, I don't want to walk into that. Like that would just seem like madness. You said, nah, it's clear. Everything's good. I said, all, cool. Hung up with Rory.

Called the car service. Got in the car. I'm headed to MetLife. Rory texts me when I'm about 35 minutes away. He says, heads up. It's a shit show. He's trying to be a good friend. And I told my driver, my good friend, you turn me.

this ship around. Yeah. Going home. Yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not going through a shit show to see Chris Brown singing in the rain. First of all, I felt kind of gay. Yeah. That I had like went home, shower, put on cologne and... Putting on cologne for breezes. Well, it wasn't for breeder. It's just it's part of the routine. That's part of the routine after you shower, you get dressed, throw a little cologne on. And then I looked at the mirror. I said, I'm going to see a talented man singing the rain. Like, what am I doing with my life, right? But no problem saying. fan of Chris Brown think he's one of the greatest we've ever seen. So anytime you got an opportunity to see Chris shut down a fucking stadium, you go see it.

On the way there, Rory says shit show. I say, no, I'm not going. It was too much. It was thunder and lightning. Yeah. I feel gay anyway. It's kind of gay or turning around with like with your fit already on. Nah, but nobody saw me.

So it's like it's not really, you know what I mean? It's not that bad. I mean, I felt bad. Like internally I was dying. on the way there like yo what am i doing but uh for chris brown i was willing to make an exception so it was like all right cool but then once you say shit show i'm too old for shit shows roar i'm not doing it no no and i mean bryson's performance is great summers was great obviously we'll get to the chris part as well it wasn't them it was met life and the infrastructure of just what happened

after that rain like everything turned to me i get it no i get it everyone was in different places they shouldn't abet they was just like remember uh stop and frisk yeah they was just doing that with people's tickets like no no no let me see a ticket you would You're not supposed to sit there. Like, it was a mess. Okay. Yeah, I understand that. It was still easily, I mean, I'm not saying anything that has been on all over social media.

It was easily one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah. I've also never seen anyone perform for three hours in my entire life. Yeah. I had fatigue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I went home exhausted. Yeah, yeah.

He was the one singing and dancing the entire time. That's the illest part about all of this shit to me because we, you know, for years, we sat down, especially on our platform and talked about, you know, Chris Brown being the one artist that we can all unanimously agree deserves a Super Bowl halftime and hasn't gotten it. Yeah. Whatever reason we want to say he hasn't gotten one yet, that's what it is what it is. But he's the one person, the one artist that we've all, I think, collectively agree, deserves a Super Bowl halftime show and would absolutely do an amazing job. So what does Chris Brown turn around and do?

He turns around and creates the Breezy Bowl. This is essentially Chris Brown's Super Bowl every night. He's in the stadium. He's in the stadium selling it out. doing three hours of hits, performing at a high level, production at a high level. Everybody that goes saying it's the greatest show they've ever been to, you know, how amazing a performer and the artist he is, and you get to see 20 years of his songs and his hits being performed.

I just think that is dope that, you know, Chris kind of, you know, named the Breezy Bowl and is essentially doing a Super Bowl halftime show every time out, you know, on any show. I think it's a fleck. I think this is just Chris Brown's way of saying, I don't need to do the Super Bowl. Actually, I'll do one every night on my tour. There wasn't in the three-hour set, there wasn't one single song that I was like,

damn, what song is this again? Yeah. I knew the words to every single record that came on for three hours. And then when they're strapping them up to the fucking, you know, when he goes as high as the jets that go over MetLife,

they have to like obviously kill some time in between. And they bring the DJ back out and he's like, oh, I'm just going to play a few records that we couldn't squeeze in. and then played like four or five number one records while they were strapping. Like, you didn't have songs you couldn't fit in a three-hour set. Right.

At a stadium? Yeah, yeah. I just flexing on everybody, man. He's showing y'all that there's nobody that can do. I mean, again, a three-hour set, there's maybe three other artists that could do something like that and perform at that level. And Chris Brown is obviously one of them. So I did want to go see, and Mojo's a side.

I did want to go see the show because I've been there and great things about it. But I just felt like it was too many, it's too many just red flags. It's the thunder and lightning. It's the delay. It's, you know, you're telling me it's a shit show. And then internally, I feel like this is nasty. I got Cologne on going to see Chris Brown by myself. It just felt nasty.

Yeah. And of course, just how my life just has been working lately. Just, you know, running into everybody. Oh, man. Jesus. Who did you run? Justice is arguing with a security guard. Because we're in like the front of house, like, on the other side of the barricade,

but they were already trying to kick. It was just a lot going on. And Justice has like the ID. Like, it's not a pass. Like, he has his photo on the fucking thing for the whole tour. And the security guards even getting mad at him with that whole shit. I'm minding my business because I don't even think I'm supposed to be here with whatever credential have.

I'm over here. But then I could see it was getting a little heated. So I just, you know, grab justice. Like, oh, come on, let's just go this way. Then the security guard grabs my arm. And I look at his face. And he goes, Rory. It's like, hey man.

And just like you know, he's like, it's my ex-cousin-law. Look at that. Look at the family everywhere. No, it wasn't funny. It's always family. Because I don't know the temp. It's like Torreto said. We used to be really close.

But Torreto told him you can't come to me. And by his smirk, I couldn't tell if it was like, yo, I've been owing you the fade or we're still, we're still in-laws. Don't worry. But yeah, it was, it was a little nerve-wracking. And then I was sitting there like, of course, I just keep running into every ex-ex. person like what front of house of the Chris Brown show yeah that's the guy all right but did he look out for you did he give you to yeah oh no he let us stay right there that's what's so funny about the whole shit like he was kicking justice out with that ID and he was like y'all y'all are fun now

there you go so your family you're family now um but speaking of gay shit um another friend I will not say his name because I don't want to out him like that in the middle of the show he did whisper to me I totally understand if your girl just fucks Chris Brown right what? He's like, come on. Like, she gets a pass. This is in the middle of him doing backflips and shit. I was like, wait, who? Oh, the fuck she don't. That we had a whole debate backstage after the show about the whole thing. He was like, no, you just got to like understand. You actually debated that? All right. All right. It wasn't a debate. We all were just looking at him like he was fucking insane the entire time. But he was like, no, you got to just like, that's top tier level

town. Like, if Rihanna came over here, I would expect my girl to just let me beat. So like, you got to just let your girl fuck Chris Brown. I was like, I really don't have to. No, yeah, no, see, I don't know. Is that what men are thinking at the show? Like, yeah, my girl. It's that could have a show. Hey, Chris.

It's that groundbreaking. You just offer your girl up like Abraham. Just take her. Do what you want with her. Have your way with her, Chris. Use her and send her back home. I'm honored. Yeah, like what type of shit is that?

But I did stay after. They do have the, I forgot what, it's some breezy. Bo. There's a cute name for it, but it's like an after-party in MetLife, like how Drake has done them before. And I'm not here to shit on young women, but gross. Ugh. You don't like them?

Not for you. Every single chick is the exact same fucking face. The same stupid oversized lips. Same can't figure out. I'm sure you're white, but you've gone so far with this surgery. Now I can't tell if you're mixed. Yeah, he looked. Oh my God. It looked like the aborigines. Yes. Meanwhile, she's Greek the whole time. Like, I just can't figure it out.

Yeah. They're all bored. Like, they're just sit there and just look fucking swollen in the face. Yeah. They just, they're so uninteresting and gross. Mm-hmm. I just, I feel for the young bunch. And listen, I'm no prize and I know none of those women want to sleep with me.

Yeah. Get that out the way. Just an observation. I'm just saying as a 35-year-old man looking at all the couches of just 50 women just sitting there, Not even speaking to each other. Like, remember when hoes used to, like, be fun? Yeah. I'm not even saying, like, in a sexual way, but, like, hoes used to be fun.

Y'all are just boring. You're, like, bad art on the wall. You were essentially at the DMV. All of the women were in the queue, hoping that their number was called. For sure. Absolutely. You know, if you ever been on a, you know, a job interview, everybody's in the lobby, kind of just, you know, you don't really talk each other.

It's kind of like, I know, hey, how you doing? Like, because we're all in competition. We're all trying to get this position, this job. Yeah. So that's the same energy. They all trying to get a position. the job for the night and you know just sit there and also extremely selfish and young minded young bitch way of thinking this man just rocked for three hours sung every single note

dance the entire time you think he wants to fuck your weird face yeah who has the energy like chris is in human if if christ fuck anyone that night he is a different level of energy oh absolutely yeah he did walk back into that shit with more energy than everybody though like once he walked in, it was like, how are you staying? I'm tired. This is why he's one of the greats, man. You got to be one of the greats to do that, man. But I am going to try to catch the show at some point.

I don't know which city, but I do want to see the show. But last night it was just too many red flags. And I was just like, I don't know. This doesn't feel like the thing to do. And truthfully, I wanted to see Bryson set. And when you told me he had just finished when you got there, I was like, wow. Yeah. So, oh, yeah.

Then when I walked back to Bryce and, in the dressing room to say what's up before he left, walk in some people in there. One girl goes, Hey, Roy, our kids play together. I was like, I can't escape anything. Yeah, yeah. It's a simulation.

Yeah, you're a dad now. Just to stare at me because I had the deer in the headlights because I didn't recognize the girl, which made me look like an awful father that I don't know who my kids is playing with. Ma'am, I don't know you. Never seen before and how do you know my daughter? We had a great conversation,

but it was just literally going from seeing my ex-fiancee's cousin to then walking into a green room where I think things are safe. And it's like, hey, our kids play together. It's like, yeah, dude, what, all right, I need to go home. Well, yeah, very, very fun evening, though. Shout out to Bryson, man. Shout out to Summer Walker.

Shout out to Chris Brown shutting down MetLife Stadium. I'm hearing great things about the tour and good luck. I don't know how many cities are left. But, you know, salute to y'all, man, for putting on a great, great show, hearing nothing but amazing things. It's good to, you know, people go out and everybody unanimously decides. Like, that's one of the best shows we've ever been to. like so shout out to everybody on the show and um good luck the rest of the way i'm kind of not mad at

the sunglasses on the pod thing i think these lights are a little too harsh yeah not because of my white skin i'm just saying like in general no it's the white skin it's just it makes me feel much better with these on okay um but anyways uh what did you do instead of the show uh just home chilled watched uh i started watching that the new eddie murphy movie on um on prime with uh pete davison Yeah. What's the plot to that? I just, I don't know, man.

I'm going to be honest. Pete is on a press store. That's all I see. I'm going to be honest. I cut it off about 20 minutes in. Really? Yeah. I mean,

I love Eddie Murphy, one of my, you know, favorite actors, comedians of all time. But I just wasn't, it didn't, I just felt, I didn't feel like it kept my attention.

And I found myself doing other things, warming up some food on the phone. I was like, all let me turn this off. So I'm going to give it another go this week. And I am going to watch it because this is Eddie Murphy. Anytime you get to see Eddie

Murphy movie. You got to check it out even if you hate it. It's Eddie Murphy's. Yeah, of course. I mean, what do we think Eddie Murphy's last great movie was? Eddie Murphy's last great movie? Great. And here's the thing. I actually enjoyed coming to America too way more than I thought I was going to. I wouldn't call it great, but I did really enjoy that movie. But his last great one. Oh, maybe, oh man, what is his last? Tower Heist? I can't, why does that? Tower Heist was good. Yeah. And still it was in that. that. I wasn't mad at that movie. Dreamgirls? Maybe Dreamgirls. I mean, I don't know. You seem like a Norbit fan. I like the actual Foley, though, the Beverly Hills cop, the last one that came out.

I don't even think I saw the second one. Yeah, I like, you didn't see Beverly Hills Cop too? No, 2024. Wow. Yeah, I never, I didn't see. Who the fuck never saw? You seen Beverly Cop. Yeah, I've seen the first one. Oh, okay. No, you never seen two or three? No, I'm talking about the one that just came out in 2024. I haven't seen. Oh, but you said you didn't see I've seen one and two. I don't think I've seen three. Wow. Because this is the fourth one? Yeah, that's the fourth one. Yeah, I've definitely seen one and two. That wasn't bad. I wasn't mad at that. I wasn't mad at that one. You people was cool. I didn't really like you people. I'm going to be honest. I never, this is how I know I don't like, when I don't go back to it,

like on just a random way, like, yo, let me watch that movie again. Like that, I didn't, I wasn't really feeling. I didn't really like you people. And the fact that Joan the Hill didn't really kiss Lauren London. It was like some CGI. I was like, yeah, what is this? Like, why I'm, you wanted them to live their rhymes? Or they didn't have to have that scene in it at all. They could have another scene. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just like, but to do that, it just made it weird. It had funny parts, but a lot of like the too obvious stereotypical, like, interracial black dad meets the white. Like, I've seen, what's the Bernie Mac one with Ashton Coucher? There's that one that is. Relax. Stop. Don't do that. We got to ask Ari which one that is. We got to ask

Arii which Bernie Mac teach. I'm sure Ari has, Ari has all of Bernie's standups. His movies queued up so she can just sit there and watch them and feel so much disrespect and hurt. Were you in the studio this week when Pige came in and said he ripped all his burning Mac posters off the wall? Because Ari, he went home and ripped all his burning Mac. Having a Bernie Mac poster on your wall is hilarious to begin with. And then ripping it down. Just the image of that Pete is coming home so frustrating. It's like, uh-oh.

Oh, Ari, man. What are we doing, man? What are we doing? You know who Ari Lennox? First of all, I didn't even see the clip. And don't do that because Ari is a friend. Ari is a friend. I love Ari.

But that means she could get these jokes, too. What the fuck? Friends could get jokes? I didn't even listen to the, I saw the headlines of Ari Lennox says another thing about comedy or something. Ari, we got to stop, man. The victim shit, come on, man. This is Bernie Mac, man.

What did she say, though? She was just offended by some of his jokes, too. He's supposed to be, it's comedy. It's going to be offensive. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know who Ari is? And I love Ari, I love you. Just never know disrespect to you.

I would never in my life. I love you. I think you're a beautiful, beautiful person, beautiful energy. But you're a little whiny man. Remember Winy Mandela? Remember when Gina was like, all right, Winy Mandela? That's who are. Ari is Winy Mandela.

Ari, you got to stop, man. Like, this is Bernie Mac. This is a legend. This is Martin Lawrence. Like, we're just killing the legends? Like, you can't be. She said, I just watched the Bernie Mac stand up a few years. is back and I understand why he's a legend that he is but I also couldn't help but to feel

uncomfortable about some of his jokes too Ari. Does Bernie like, Bernie Mac wasn't even like that over the edge. I want to know which Bernie Mac joke. That's what I'm saying. That he said that Ari felt offended by. Which, which one? You got to tell me which Bernie Mac joke was offensive to Ari Lennox. Because Bernie Mac talked about him being black and ugly and like he should.

on himself. So what did Ari here when she's like, yo, I was a little offended? Like, come on, we can't do it. Ari, we love you. But the whiny Mandela, we got to stop the whiny Mandela. I was offended by guess who? You was not offended by no damn guess who. Great movie. I actually did like that movie. Great movie. But no, I was very much offended. Because he was a very honest, hardworking white man that was a provider, a protector. And then Bernie goes and lies to everyone at work, that he plays ball and has. That he plays ball and Howard. Yeah, that's a flat of it?

I think so. I don't know. The movie is a little old. I can't really remember. But I do remember liking that movie, though. Yeah, that one was good. But that's why you people to me was kind of like, all right, we've had, we have this movie. Yeah.

Already. I'm going to watch that, the pickup, though, with Eddie Murphy and Pete Davis. I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it. Are you going to watch the 20 minutes? What do you say? No, Pige was saying that Sam J's character and you people, his podcast host, was based off of you.

Who said that, Peach? The internet did, when that movie came out, I do remember people posting memes of them too and then you and I. Because they were podcast. Yes. Black and white. I get it. I see it.

Sam J. looked like she could be my family. Yeah, definitely. I can see it. Yeah. She's handsome. Sam, I'm joking because she's a comedian for a. Yeah.

I don't smoke. Sam, I'm a fan. I love you. Like, I'm just fucking with you. Yeah, you saw her at the Tom Brady Roes. Yeah, you don't want this movie. No, she's like, I love Sam J. Even my pops when he watched this movie texted me and was like they got you and all

in the movie. I was like, Dad. You should let your hair grow like Joan Hill. Right there. Get the long slick back. So then you can look like the connect. Yeah. Like you got heroin and the islands in the Bahamas.

Because that's clearly what Lauren London was really into. Yeah. Absolutely. 100%. That was like the part of the movie that I couldn't get into outside of the obvious weird plot. Like, no. I didn't even care that they didn't kiss.

This isn't happening. I don't care if it's a movie. Yeah. They're never a crossing pass. Yeah, I didn't like that. Lauren Lennon is going to be like, oh, yeah, you. And I remember when that trailer came out, we all was like, oh, that might be dope.

Like Jonah Hill, Eddie Murphy, Lauren Lennon. No, that might be cool. It didn't really stick like that. It didn't really, man. It was more of like the, you know, the love mind. montages in movies, like where we see them fall in love in five minutes. It's really like five months. Like when they were doing all the cute couple shit, I was like, no, gross. Ew. This

didn't happen. Yeah. I can't even pretend that this happened in a movie. That was the most awkward set ever. Um, so we had a little, are we, are we allowed to talk about it? The Cardi situation? Uh, sure. Just something to agree, I guess. Yeah, we ain't got to go too much. So, yeah, we won't go into super, super detail about it. Because eventually I think we will be able to. You know what I hate, Roy. I hate that, like, words, especially for us. That women are mean to me.

No, I love that women are mean. I love that. I'll get a kick out of that. That's kind of my kink. No, but I really, I really hate that people that we genuinely like and support and want to see great things from, you know, sometimes when we sit on the show and we're objective and, you know, we kind of like say anything other than, you know, amazing we love it and this that's like oh a little nervous i think this might be the fall off whatever whatever it's not to be to disrespect anybody it's not to undermine anybody's talent anything like that it's just having a conversation sometimes and people may hear things that they don't like

and cardi heard some things that we said and i know i say it all the time you i know i said all time even though people think i don't support cardi love carty anybody coming out of the bronx got my support No, I mean, the funniest thing is I support her much more than you, yet I'm the only one that ever catches the fucking wrath for it. Yeah. But you'll be shitting on her and then she'll fucking just curse me out for no reason. No, but don't say I don't shit on Cardi. I don't shit on Cardi. I never shit on Cardi.

I never shit on Cardi. I think it's crazy to sit up here as men and shit on women, even though we do it sometimes. But I don't, I don't intend to shit on women. Yeah, I don't intend to shit on women. That's not, that's not who I am at all. just shitted it all over Ari Lennox. No, I didn't. I just called a whiny man Della.

He's whining. But no, but Cardi, man, we love you. We're looking forward to this record. She is sampling imaginary players. It is dropping. Well, while you're hearing, this is out. I don't know, yeah. And to me, it's the greatest record I've ever read my life.

You didn't even hear yet. That's the greatest record you ever heard. Hove, who? Yeah. I feel like Hove sampled her. Yeah, like who? Who did it? Who did it better?

Who did it better? Hove sampled her. Yeah. All right. So what happened? It's no, sir. I've talked on the pod before of Cardi and I having conversations after we've said certain things. One thing, the last time I forgot what it was, but she took it out of context because her army of people cut it up and told her the wrong information and it got cleared up. We had a great conversation. Then I came on here. In real time, she announced the imaginary player. As podcast banter does, we were joking around about a theory of Hove clearing it because of Nikki. which to me was funny and just playful and like obviously that's not true. I didn't think anyone was taking me seriously when I was laughing saying that theory. Yeah, no. And then Cardi had words for me.

I've made peace with what you were saying before and all. I already know every artist person, podcast personally, they will never ever see us complimenting them constantly. They will find one thing that's even if it's out of context is negative and be offended. I've also been guilty of it too but I that's just I guess that's the genre that's what this is and which is fine man

but it's just don't like don't curse me out when we've done like nothing really but support you for your instance fucking red bars listen man I and I'm not mad at Cardi you know we had a back and four

it wasn't anything crazy I want to make it pain she said something in there that I didn't like but that's you know it but I just I'm kidding just the wording I just don't Oh, but I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm just a different type of person.

I don't play, like, certain words is just, don't put my name in certain words in the same sentence. That's all I'm saying. But I'm trying to remember which one it was. You know what it was. What would be the only thing she said in that that I would be filled away about? You know exactly what she said. We ain't got to get that. It ain't that serious, but I just don't, I don't, I don't take that type of shit like loosely is what I'm saying.

I just don't like that because it's unnecessary. But does it change my stance, love Cardi, from the same town, same city. I want the record to be dope. You know, and I'm just looking forward to the project because I'm somebody that's been on the side of. We've needed a Cardi project, her having. This is the thing I said all the time. She has the greatest first album year out of anybody ever.

Like giving her props for that. Like so when we say, oh, I feel like Cardi might have a fall off. It's not because Cardi isn't talented. It's just the fact that where she started, her first year, her first album says she had, it's hard for anybody to match that. It's hard for anybody to top that. Like, you don't, many people don't win best album in their category at the Grammys. Like, that just doesn't, Nas just won best rap album a couple years ago.

Yeah. He's been rapping just probably before Cardi was born. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we, that year that she had, phenomenal, incredible. She's a fucking legend, you know what I'm saying? But I do I think this second album is going to live up to that? I don't.

Not saying not to just to attach it to any, you know, thing that Cardi is not talented, anything like that. I just feel like it's things happening on the business side that wasn't happening before that might stop, you know, the best product from being put forward. That's all right. That's what I'm talking to. Take the music and the business out of it. I think it's hard for any artist, period, to have every single song on their album chart. Exactly. Like, it's not an easy thing.

That's not an easy thing to just keep doing. It's not. But yeah, to close that, I do challenge. We love you, Cardi. We love you, Cardi. We love you, Cardi. I challenge. Are they going to clip that, Josh, you think so?

They'll clip it. No, not P. I'm talking about the internet. You think they won't say that to her. What's so funny is what you just said? They're going to put reverb on us saying the fall off. They're going to put the reverb on that. They go, yeah, they're going to do all that.

You're going to put a Jake Holby behind it. Yeah, they always go to, they find a negative or what might be taken as a negative and let that go viral. Like positive shit don't. go viral unless you're like a kid that lost his leg and then now you're running a marathon i don't know i mean which i think is a little unfair because you have it's not a real leg yeah that doesn't get it doesn't get it's tired that doesn't cramp like that's fucked up beach that fucked up too far fucking it is what it is but with that said i challenge the stand pages the stand accounts the

communities the party gang it not just with us i challenge you guys to clip up positive things and send them to her yeah why why with the stands group's only fucking job and role is to go farm every possible negative thing ever said about an artist that they like who is a public figure and art is to be judged and this is what they signed up for why don't you guys ever look for anything positive how fucking miserable are you you're making her more miserable why don't you send her all the so many people say amazing things about cardi why don't we farm all those things together and send it to her maybe she's having a debt because you can't put ads we all we all go through a lot you can't put

You can't get paid on X for positivity. You can't get paid on X for positive vibes, man. That ain't going to pay the bills, man. That's not going to pay it. So, yes. This is what it is. Kendrick stands, Drake stands, Nikki stands, Megan stands. How about we all just go try to find all the positive things said about the artist that we like?

Yeah. And how about we focus on that? Don't pay the bill. You can't put ads on that. Elon not putting ads on that, man. You know that. Words of South Park. Everybody got a nut.

Everybody got a nut. Did you watch the most recent South Park with the Charlie Kirk shit? Mm-mm-mm. Watch it. South Park still remains to be one of the greatest shows. All right. To have this long of a run and still be this fucking funny. All right, now you want to know how old I am?

I didn't even know South Park was still on. Yeah. And it's... Had no idea. It's still, it's equally as hilarious as it's always been. Had no idea South Park was still putting out like new episodes. It's one of those things that you don't have to guess like, yo, maybe they'll fall off. I don't think they're ever going to fall off.

Because it's been, what, like 25 years? Yeah, that's something. My entire, like my entire life, I did not know. I had no idea. I thought any time I see South Park, like, I think, I'm thinking it's like an old episode that they're just like re-airing. One point five billion dollars.

One point five billion with Paramount. God damn. Nah, Tray Parker and Matt Stone is the, they the greatest, bro. They are the great. Yo, they figure, they found, no, they figured life out. Like, what? A 1.5. billion five-year deal?

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Yo, Trey Parker and fucking Matt Stone, y'all are like the rich Cheech and Chong. Remember how Cheech and Chong figured out like we just going to travel in our van, get high, play music, they didn't get 1.5 billion though. How are they not more revered? Like when they do the, what's the award in DC?

Like the Mark Twain comedy war, like, how are they not knighted in comedy? These two have done things that literally no one else has done. But here's the thing, all, yes, they piss everyone off, but that's why I think they should just be loved by everyone because they make fun of everybody. It's not like they pick one particular group. literally everyone gets these jokes with them.

They also write hilarious songs just in the show. Like just great show tunes. Yo, no, bro, we got to put, Trey Park and Matt Stone. I had, God damn. Yeah. 300 M's a year? And now you could just use AI to make that cartoon shit.

That is crazy. I had no, bro, I did not know that. That is, wow. Okay. And like how they started that with how like low budget and low end and kept it there just shows like how amazing their minds are as far as writers like they don't need bells and whistles for anything like just your writing has gotten you this fucking far that's inspirational i like that you can always you can be who you

are cater to just your audience don't try to go outside of your audience yeah and still get to one point five billion columbia's uh finest right there who's columbine High school. They went to Columbine? Yeah. Matt Park, Trey Parker and Matt Stone with the Columbine? Yeah. No, you're lying. I'm not making that up.

You lie. Bowling for Columbine. What's the fat liberal that did Fahrenheit 9-11? Oh, something Michael? Michael Moore. Bowling for Columbine when he did the documentary about guns in America

interviewed Trey Parker and he said, yeah, I went to the high school. I'm like 99.9% sure he said that. Wow. Or he's from that same town But he wasn't there when it happened No way different age Aged, no, no, no He wasn't in the trench coat mafia

He wasn't one of the ones that made it If Trey Park and Matt Stone was at the school When that shooting happened Simulation None of this is real Alex Jones would have a conniction If he found out that they were part of that school shooting But no, it was definitely

Same town, okay, same town, okay, different Oh, okay, okay, all right Still man, shout out to Trey Park and Matt Stone them. That's, I mean, they were already legends before I knew that. But that just, that's just a nice little, that's just a nice little topping on the, on the legendary cake. Like, 1.5 billion. And they just, they're just chilling. You don't never hear nothing about them. Yeah. That's how you win, man. If, if, if Tray Park and Matt Stone walk past me right now, probably wouldn't even recognize them. I definitely wouldn't. They could probably walk in the studio.

And they're like, who's that? 1.5. They just walking in Manhattan, nothing. Nobody recognized them. Stop them. don't want no pictures, nobody bothering. That's how you went at life. I'm up 1.5 and nobody's bothering me. And I don't have to pick up a camera. It's animation. Yeah, like this. Oh, man.

Shout out to those guys, man. That's dope. Also during this, we've had a very long fucking week. During this week, off camera, in between interviews, I saw that Billboard put out another list. So I was seething off mic anytime they put something together because I didn't understand the full context of it. So Billboard put out their top producers of the 21st century on the Hot 100. So I didn't see the Hot 100 part. Matter of fact, how I even saw this to begin with was, and shout out to Boy Wonder,

I believe he was number 23. I saw that he posted that. So I was just under the impression that they were putting together a list of the best producers of the 21st century. Not a list of who has the most number ones on the Hot 100 in the first quarter. Century. Like, do we need that list? You could just look up the data.

That's what, when Billboard does awards and Billboard does lists like this, I don't fully get, I think it's a waste of money. Because there's no, like, debate. It's either they have the number one or they don't. Yeah. So I started out seething because they had the weekend over Brian Michael Cox and Corey Rooney. So I was pacing in this fucking studio losing my mind.

And I'm not saying that the weekend is not. a producer I think every great artist is a producer to some degree and has something to do with their records but I thought we were sitting there like you have Greg Kirsten on here um where's my guy Jeff what number was Jeff at Jeff Basker at 20 I'm thinking we're talking about that type of style so to just throw in the weekend I was like yeah I was I was I felt like if the weekend was like a producer like that we would have known about it not just a great artist that produces but if you're credited as a producer and you have a number one that's all billboard cares about with this list so yes it's just the most number one yeah so i like i went from caring a lot about this list because i thought it'd be cool to have that that debate and that conversation of the best producers of the 21st century but now it's just like yeah maria carry it 15 cool i mean yeah why even like stagger this and like put it out in different days you can literally just look up the data yeah if we're talking most number one that's what i'm going about yeah um so if that's case i mean obviously

Beyonce, Drake, because what are we at now? They staggered. They released all the way up to number six. Six. Beyonce's number six. Okay, so now we're entering the top five. Obviously,

Drake, Max Martin. Yeah, Pharrell. Yeah, like those are the names. I mean, Taylor Swift would be number one, I would assume, right? She's number 13. Really? That's her favorite number.

Is it? How do you know that? How do you know that? Yeah, but how do you know that? How do you know that? Like, how was that on? You are a Swifty, Pige. My bad. I'm sorry. And so are we. So was everyone in the room. Listen, listen. Clip that. Swifties.

Yes, we love you. Love you, Taylor. I love, um, I love that you invented podcasting too. Listen. Finally, finally, we've been stamped. Yes. I finally feel seen. I feel like these last. Ten years of work has some value now. Yes.

Now that Taylor has entered the space. Finally, Taylor. It's all we've been trying to do is get you the podcast. And complex? I fucking swear. This camera peach? Complex. If Taylor Swift is not number one on the media list next year, we're going to have a fucking problem.

Okay? I met Speedy yesterday at the Super Bowl. Lovely guy. At the Super Bowl. Lovely, lovely guy. I will text him if you do not have Taylor Swift as the number one hip hop media personality. Just redo the list now. Why even wait for next year?

It is going to be interesting to see the top five, though, because somebody's not going to be on that list that we're going to be like, wait, hold up. I mean, I think it's crazy that Taylor's at 13 and Jack Ansoff just like most of her stuff is above her. Yeah. Are we sure it's most number ones? That's what it says at the top. Or most, who produced the most number ones in the Hot 100 and the 500 and the first. quarter of century. Okay. All right. Yeah, I'm curious who's... I was actually kind of shocked that Swizz wasn't in this, but I guess with what's the 21st century? Because that was another

thing when we found out we were stupid. Me and Pete were trying to figure out what does that start at 2000? Yeah. Okay, I can see why, yeah, I can see why Swiz wouldn't make that. Will I am at 24? I thought was, I thought he would been way higher. Just, I mean, just billions of people better than this. This is produced. that are a billion times better than will i don't do that because see this is where i was going to say we're haters because i did some will i am hate before and i i still changed music but well i am he's but and from the 2000 to now like no black i p's owned a decade no 100 percent i'm i'm talking shit absolutely more i know i've never asked you this but have you ever signed up for a phone

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I don't know why niggas still play with Cam. Cam ain't somebody who played with like. Cam going to go further. Cam going to go further than any of y'all willing to go. Cam, we're looking into cameras today. Cam Ron, I never, ever want to have any issues with you for the remainder of my life. Everything you've done is the greatest thing ever to me. Purple Hays and come home with me are classics to me.

I want no smoke ever. Nah, but Cam is cool until he's fucking with him. It's super cool. Until people fuck with him. I'm like, I very rarely can remember Cam start and some shit. I could very, I don't know. I don't, I would really have to think. All right.

You could make a case that the 15. when he called up to Angie, 50, I think it just made a comment about Koch or something. And Cam kind of instigated that hope. No. 50 said, no, no, no, 50 said that's the bigger instigators ever. 50 is where you go.

That's the graveyard. Artists go there to die. Which 50 in retrospect, if you look back, 50 was 1,000% wrong about that entire thing. Koch ended up being like the greatest fucking independent label at one point. So Ken felt the way about that. Don't say I'm a dying artist and I'm going here to die. Well, I think it was only because Jim was only,

I don't think Cam was on. That's his man. You know, I know, but he signs with dipset through. Yeah, of course, it had something to do with him. So, yeah, I guess you're right. But Cam, I don't start. See, I don't like that shit like you would not believe. No, but I don't like that because people only see when you hit back and you hit back harder.

And then it turns and say, yo, why he bullying and why he. No, no, but I think he was not bullies. No, I'm not saying that. But I'm talking about in this situation with Cam, where people feeling like, yo, Cam is the wrong one. Don't make it seem like Cam start shit. It's just that when it started, he's going to show up and he going to show up louder and he's going to go further than you're willing to go. He going to go pedia?

That was one of my favorite quick battles ever, though. 50 and Cam? Yeah. Because it didn't really go far. It was just funny fucking content. Curtis was Hulet. Like, you know, 50 and him might be the two peddies people on earth.

50 is definitely Mount Rushmore petty. Cam started, for people that don't know, Cameron called into Angie's show when 50 was up there, which Mall just said about the Koch thing. And then they got into a back and forth with all their artists with Jim Jones, Lloyd Banks. They had a conversation that it went to disc records where Cam had one called Curtis where he just, because on the phone he kept yelling Curtis. Then 50 whose album was titled before I self-destruct changed it to Curtis because Cam

was yelling Curtis. He changed his album title. Yeah. And it wasn't like just a fun, quick little ha-ha album. It was the one that went against graduation. It was like the most important 50 cent album. Of this discography, yeah. Outside of his first one. And then ended up putting out before I self-destruct like five years later. Yeah, yeah. I like it though, man.

I like this type of energy from Cam, man. Like, you know, like leave me alone. I'm over here doing my thing. But if you know, y'all start talking crazy, I could talk crazy with you. I only saw a camera on side. Is it a fact that this started because he accidentally said Omar Gooding Jr.? Yes. All right.

Omar, yeah, you deserved all this. Yeah, he's like, he's not the junior. He's like, I'm not the junior. He's like, okay. My bad. Yeah, like my bad. You were Goodin, Jr. I got confused.

I'm talking. Like, yeah. Like, you know, so it's just no disrespect. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, that he wanted to go back and forth. And you picked the wrong one. So Cam, Cam hired Omar Gooden.

He flew him down to Miami to shoot a fake trailer for a fake movie. Unbeknownst to Omar that Cam had anything to do with this. Gave him $2,500. Had his man boobs out. All kind of shit. Made him do push up. Made him. Cam was in his team was recording the whole.

Listen, man. Kahn was watching a live stream. Bro. Like, you know how petty you have to be to be. No, he shot an episode of punk. Yeah. That was punk. Cam shot an episode of punk with Omar Gooding.

He shot an episode of punk. He was in the van, watching everything go down. That was punk. That's what Ashley Coucher used to do. Like, be in the van. Yeah, that's what he was doing. He shot an episode of punk. He punked him.

But I need, like, I need Cam to make this an actual, not just a series, but he was saying that the guys that were in the scene with Omar were speaking Spanish. And Omar didn't speak Spanish. I need to see the script that Omar got. Like he's just in a setting where everybody speaks in Spanish, he's just like, yeah. And they just do push-up. I mean, you know, it is what it is.

Yo, Cam is. Do you know how many people have to be in on this for that to be like, as successful as it was? Yeah. There are way too many pieces that have to be in line to pull that off. But in order for Cam to do that, bro, Cam is really a petty dude, man.

That level of thinking is crazy. You know, we're going to fly him to Miami, have him shoot a fake trailer for a fake movie, give him $2,500, and then we're going to talk about it on, on it is what it is. Because, like, that would be a funny, like, scenario that we could talk, like, off mic about,

but would go, like, nah, nobody's ever falling for that shit. Like, how did it fall for that? Just that quick, yo, we need you down here. But that's kind of, that's- And I'm not tapping nobody's pockets, but, like, $2,500, you shoot this whole shit. And that's kind of what Cam is saying. No, that's why he looks crazy.

I laughed, of course, at the pushups and the man boobs and came with the tee. But, like, that just made you look kind of crazy. Crazy. Like, crazy. Ain't no kind of crazy. Crazy. You look crazy. Like, you just did, like, you really just did that?

That's insane. Like, did you want to read a script? Like, get more information. Get more details. Omar Good is a response. He was trying to, you know, save face. It looked like, yeah, good look. You know, I got a trip to Miami, $25.

I'm like, I get it, but nah. That ain't. That's not the response to that. That's not the response to that. That's not the rebuttal. Like, I hear you. Cool. Got a trip to Miami, $2,500 and all of that.

But, no, fam, that ain't. You just revealed how you even do business. Yeah, that looks crazy. Like, you jumped to that $2,500. Like, ASAP, you flew to Miami. I don't even, did he have carry on? He had, like, checks in a luxury. That's what I'm saying.

That feels like carrying on. Did anyone look at it, not even a contract or conversate, like somebody on your team? Like, I need to know more about what's the plan. That's what I'm saying. This is only like a. Two weeks old, right? Two weeks, maybe, three weeks?

Maybe. Yeah, that's wild. That's wild. Cam is a legend. That's some legendary shit. He pulled off right there. That is legendary petty shit Cam just did. Yeah, man, I don't know if I could ever just like watch Baby Boy the same now.

I don't know if I could even watch Smart guy the same. Like, I just view Omar a little different now. Yeah, that was classic though. Classic petty by Cam Ron. That's King Petty right now. 50, you on, the ball is yours now. You got to do some. Yeah.

He got to take the petty awards. Yeah, he got to take the petty to the next level. I saw an interesting clip, Rory. I don't know if you saw it called The Road Podcast, Reflections of a DJ. Yeah. Shout out to them. They have Rashah Smith on, legendary hip-hop R&B producer, worked with Eric B. Raq Kim, Tribe Called Quest, a bunch of other people.

And he was talking about the, he produced the doing it beat. Yeah. L.O. KooJ's doing it. And he was talking about how that beat was originally. for Biggie, which made all the sense in the world when I did see this clip. Because I, you had to go Brooklyn sampling. Yeah. And I mean, it's funny now in retrospect to see how L.O. like, flipped that to make it make sense.

I was raised out in Brooklyn. Yeah, she raised out in Brooklyn. Because I know L.O. was sitting there like, what am I supposed to do with a beat? They just keep saying Brooklyn. No, it worked. It worked. Yeah. Yeah.

But knowing this backstory makes everything make more sense about that record. Yeah. So, Rashar was saying how, you know, he was kind of in a tight spot. at the moment, you know, he could, he could really use, you know, some money and things like that. And Big and, you know, Puff and I guess Bad Boy were kind of like, not saying dragging their feet, but they didn't, they were, they didn't send the money fast enough. And then. I think it was like 15 grand that that he was saying. Yeah, he played some beats for L and L.

He played that by accident. For Chris Lighty. For Chris Lighty. But that's fucked up, though, because Big was sending you sample ideas. Like, he put that shit together with you. Yeah. The story is wild. So L.L.

hears that. And he's like, well, what's that? And he was like, yeah, he tried to turn it off real quick. Like, I wasn't supposed to play that. Which we've been in studios. That happens all the time. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

You're like, no, hold it. Go back to that. And then L.L. was like, yo, how much are they paying you for it? And he was like, I'll pay you double. I mean, Rashad at that moment, he's hearing that. He's like, bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need that right now.

And he said, as soon as the check hit his account. Biggie called him and said, yo, I need that. What's up with that record? I'm ready to lay the latest. That's my first single. And he's like, yo, I sold the beat.

He's like, what you mean? He's like, that's my first single. Like, I need that back. And obviously, Rashad sold the beat to LL became a huge hit. And he said Big never, you know, he kind of feel bad because him and Biggie

never really spoke after that and never had the opportunity to kind of, you know, talk about that situation. But I don't feel like he was wrong. I don't feel like he was wrong in that moment. I told, I see both sides of that entire thing.

I do. If I'm big, I'm living and I probably will never work with you again if that was a beat that we were putting together and I told you I'm waiting for the budget up. But I also know producers, obviously, of bills like the rest of us, and there's so many times where shit will just sit for years and years and years.

Like, I don't even know if what you're saying is going to be true. Yeah. Because even at that time, you didn't know what was going on with Uptown, with bad boy, like, with big, even him trying to sign this. In that moment? There was so much going on that like, how do I even, like, holding this beat? Who knows if it'll even come out?

Yeah, but in that moment, I understand Rashar. But I do feel like he should have hit big like, yo, listen, man, there's a situation. I played the beat by accident in front of LL. He ready to pay me double for this shit. I produced it for you. You, my man. I don't want to do that. Not saying you want to put big in a bidding war for the beat either, but it's kind of like,

You just let them know situation like, yo, they offer me double. Yeah. Like I feel like Rashad could. He could have went that way. No, you definitely should have hit big for sure. They offered me double. Not saying I want you to match it and offer me double. Yeah.

We can still go with the price that you wanted if you wanted it. Yeah, but let me know if you wanted though because these guys over here is willing to pay me double for it. Not saying I'm on, you got to pay me double now. But you got to let me know if you are really going to take this joint because I'm in the little, I'm in the jam right now. I can use this money. You know what I'm saying? So I just thought that was an interesting. little information on one of the iconic legendary record like doing it with L.O.

Okay, but you forgot the end was the funniest to me. First of all, why would you then go drive on Fulton Street? What you mean? It's a big, it's a big action. There's a bunch of parallel. You could find another route. Nah, not when you, see, one thing about it, when you do grimy shit or like some shady shit, like, you'll be surprised at where the person you did some shady shit, where y'all bump

into each other. It'd be the, it just, it's like, that's, like, that's. That's the way the world works. Like, you did some grimy shit. Yeah, I'm going to go over here and get a massage of my wife. Guess who else? Guess who else had a spa day today? D-Rop.

D-Rop. Guess who's in the next book getting a massage? D-Rollock getting a pedicure. Biggie getting a manicure. Big got cucumbers on his eyes getting to face you. Yeah. It's spa day for all of us. That's how life worked.

You do some grimy shit. You're going to end up in a situation where you got to face the grime. You're going to have to be face-to-face with, you know, the person you dig grimy but uh what are you doing that situation too because i mean i i appreciate that he admitted he was like damn i was a little shit when i saw d rock and big you would have been you seen when they were like d rock and big and you would your wife i would be petrified what you talking about yeah no no i would be scared i'm saying what would you say to your wife we got to go like y'all i think i'm just going to run this red yeah no we got to go you got to get in the

car we got to use a bathroom i got to take a shit all of my stomach hurt you know you get nervous your stomach i got my stomach i got to take a shit man we got to get back to the house DRock is not a small... No. That was the one... We joke about the notorious movie all the time, but there's one thing we don't bring up of the casting with that. They, like, made DRock out to be like this, like, smaller stock.

That's a... DRock is a beast, dog. Not a small guy by any means, yeah. Why they casted him to be, like, this tall was fucking crazy to me. Yeah. Legendary story, though. I appreciated that clip. Yeah.

Cut out to... What is it? Road. The Road podcast. Yeah, for sure. Do we even want to get into Kanye stuff? I really don't have much to say here, but I guess we're getting another Kanye West documentary on September 19th. I mean, we need one.

In whose name. He's lived in the last seven months. He's lived 10 lives, so. Listen, I will be fully tuned in. I'm not going to lie to our viewers here. I've had some contradicting hypocritical things to say about Kanye West because that is, because he is also that. So I have ups and downs with him like everyone else, but I'm watching this, like without a doubt. Oh, you're definitely going to watch a Kanye documentary.

I mean, you'll be lying to you. Hopefully you get your boots in time. You go watch with your boots on. Yo, and Kanye, you wild disrespectful because you did another Yeezy drop the other day. And I ain't get my boots from seven months ago. Yeah, yo, send me my $25 Hitler boots, man. Stop playing with me, man. Oh, yo, like, it's about to get cold fall coming once.

Yo, Kanye, let me chill. Because Kanye might be doing me a favor by like, yo, listen, you don't need the boots right now. It's not cold. Falls around the corner. He's going to send him when World War III starts. He's going to send them when I need. Probably.

As soon as we get our first sign of cold weather, snow. Or Cold War. Or Cold War. Either way, I think Kanye is going to be right on time and had the boots in my possession. But, yo, yay, I need my $25 boots. Man, stop playing. What do we think is going to be in this documentary? Because, I mean, the gene, it was genius, right?

Cudy and Chiquet. I thought it was a tremendous documentary. I actually have rewatched it a few times. I liked it so much. That's one of the few. I watched that documentary. in the Jordan documentary a lot. Yeah, it's, every episode is great.

This one, from my understanding, is produced by him. So this, what do we think of Kanye produced full doc is going to be? There's been ones that have leaked on Twitter before of his footage, but they felt incomplete. Is this a trailer for it? Yeah, it's the trailer right here. Oh, okay, yeah. So this is stuff from a few years ago, too. Oh, yeah.

The last six, oh, this is going to be crazy. So this is the presidential campaign and all of that. Oh, this is going to be crazy. This is going to be him losing a billion. All of that is in there. Oh, yeah. This is about to be crazy. I just like the things that he says publicly,

the behind the scenes footage. What is he saying? Not on Twitter. Yo, and he's showing more boots. Yo, Kanye, you. Send my boots, dog. Don't show me you at the whiteboard with fucking boots in the documentary. Send me my shit.

Nico, I'm not even going to try to pronounce that last name. Ballesteros? Yeah, but that's the director. a film by. So yeah, this should be... It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting.

What do you think still on the cutting room floor? Like, what do you think is the most outrageous? Like, what did not make... What were the... What kind of shit were they were like, now, this is too far. Everything made it. I think everything made it.

I think... Everything made is Twitter. I don't think they made... I don't think they edited. Nothing out. Nothing. I think everything we're going to see is everything that happened.

Everything they filmed is what we're going to see. Absolutely. I don't think they cut nothing out. which is crazy though that's like do you not want to see that like see the of the good the bad and the ugly yeah of course let's see also love that song by conier in consequence yeah love that movie by clenicewood um there was one that leaked i think we talked about on the pot like last year there was one that leaked on twitter a doc that had some of that footage as well that i watched in full before it got deleted no one brings up the amount of like random cities that conier has built and they've just been

abandoned. Like half of that doc was him like it was Wyoming. He was building a village and then just stopped. Then he went to Saudi Arabia. How you know he stopped? Because it's in the dock. He was like, yo, we out. And what docking? The one that it was genius. No, no, no. It was after genius. It just, it leaked on Twitter and it got deleted. I think probably some of that stuff is in this. Okay. But he would just go, he would just go build cities and it just be like huts and shit. And he was like showing Kim. He's like, yo, you just, do you sit there and you sleep here? Like, It was wild. But before Kanye went fully crazy, I thought that was great.

I think that's like amazing that you want to build your own towns and cities and his own schools and shit. But he would just go from place to place and do that. And then they would just, he would just leave them. I'm going to watch this, man. This is going to be great. This is going to be a great documentary. I think this is going to be one of them docs that we talk about for a long time, bro. Because we're going to hear some shit and see some shit that's like, whoa.

Like, they didn't want to cut that out. September 19th in theater? Wait, it's in theaters Oh man This is going to be like the last scene Inglorious bastards Wait till that shit don't debut At number one over the weekend

You know Kanye gonna go on his rant Check your tickets They're not scanning the tickets Make sure they scan your ticket You know you're gonna go crazy if this ain't number one This is gonna be like an AMC Like I can go in Times Square to watch this I just hope I fully believe that

And I want the reconnaissance As of now it's in theater And I want to be able to order like a burger like bring me a burger while I watch Kanye talk about Nazi yeah I want the recline seat like the whole experience I need to yeah give me that experience don't put this in though just them small theaters that be in Chelsea and nah no no no put this in the put this in the picks and the you know the look cinemas and all of that yeah I think just because we're so desensitized of crazy shit at this point in our lives we don't think about how insane Kanye's career has been and I mean that

in a good, bad, and ugly way that you're saying. Have we ever, like, seen an artist have this type of career? Outside of music, like publicity, things he said. Kanye is the most polarizing artist that's ever existed. Over Michael, over anybody. Like... Over Michael? Yes.

Polarizing. Polarizing. No. There's nobody more. I understand that that trial was insane and they were saying Mike was touching case. There's nobody more. There's nobody more polarizing. You just scrolled through Kanye West's Twitter in one year.

It's the most insane shit. Yeah, but there's nobody more polarizing. No artists. Can we look up the definition of polarizing? Because I don't know if polarizing would be the right word. Polarizing. One of the definitions, divide or cause to divide into two sharply contrasting groups or sets of opinions or beliefs. Yeah, I don't think Mike ever did that.

We all, we all just love Mike. Oh, yeah. I mean, when the kid thing happened, yeah, it was a guy a little dice. If you're going to go with. divide or cause a divide, then yes. Kanye did more of dividing than Michael Jackson did, yes. Go up to the first one. Josh, I hate when definitions just give you the word again in it.

Oh, it's just physics. Well, I mean, Kanye invented physics. Absolutely. But I don't know. I just feel like a superstar, A-level artist like that has never said the most insane things on earth the way Kanye West does. Eminem. Yeah, Peter saying Eminem at that point. But yeah, Eminem was more like shock jock, like crazy.

Like, oh, let me go over the line. Kanye West is trying to go DefCon for on the Jews. Yeah. And on top of that, you're made Adidas, a billion dollars. Like all of these things happening at one time. Yeah. You're one of the greatest producers, rappers, musicians, ever. Then on top of that, you're one of the greatest designers in, I think, my time, as far as

public figures. Absolutely. And then on top of all of that, you're running for president and screaming, they tried to get me to kill North. Michael never did that. No, he just hung his baby over the balcony. That's all. I mean, it was a blanket reveal with the blanket. Sometimes you got to give blanket a... Where's blanket, man? How come, like, and I'm happy we don't, like, People don't bother Mike's kids like that. But it is kind of like cool and strange that we don't like know more about where Mike's kids are at these days. Yeah, like that one of the biggest artists. Yeah, like.

And the history of man and then his kids, we have no idea. I know I know more about like C-list, To Be Star, reality TV, like their fifth kid I know more about. Yeah. Then blank dog, blanket? Yeah. He looks like a beautiful vampire. Yeah. Like how is it?

this guy. I mean, I love that if he wants to be left alone, that he should be left alone, but you're a pizza. No, I would say. It's because it's not his kid. What? Of course that is. Oh, man.

Does Mike have any real kids? Yeah, you're looking at him. All right, I shouldn't say real kids. Does Mike have any kids that look like what he looked like when he was in the Jackson Foff? That's a better question. That's a better question. That's what I'm trying to ask.

Oh, my God. That's not Michael Jackson's kid. That's your kid. She's even too white for me. Oh, man. Anyways, no disrespect to the Jackson family. Just joking around. I'm happy that nobody bothers his children.

His real children, might add. I think that is great. I'm glad they all didn't. turn into like coked out reality TV stars. Because that probably would have been the plan. Yeah, that's, it probably is the normal plan. That's the trajectory of how that usually goes.

That has to go that way. What was a, Lionel Richie's daughter? And she cleaned her act up. Shout out to her. She had the Nicole Richie. Nicole Richie. Yeah, she was driving backwards on the 405,

snorting heroin off the steering wheel. Was she? Nicole Richie was on drugs? Like that? Yeah. Oh, she's openly talks about it. She's clean now. Then she married the guy from Good,

Oh, there you go. No, it's a beautiful Hollywood love story. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Her and Paris would just walk around. Like, that's hot. It's hot.

It's so hot. Your salad's so cute. Legendary, though. Oh, no, that show was... Legendary. We should have brought that up when we were talking about legendary reality. Yeah, that was definitely up there for sure. What was my...

Paris Life? Shit, Kim was Paris assistant. Yeah. Which is crazy. When you go back and look at that shit. Yeah, that is absolutely wow. What was the name of Nicole in Paris's show? The Simple Life, yeah, which was like very offensive in retrospect.

It's the soft life. The Simple Life. I'm going to go back and like rewatch, because I watched that as such a young kid that I didn't retain much of it. But I'm sure there's legendary moments that I forgot. Oh my God. I just remember that show like being huge. Yeah. Anytime you turn the TV on, that show was probably playing.

Look at this artwork. Fire. That shit is dope. That's a legendary show, bro. Like, no all jokes aside, that's a legendary show. So, and it's weird that I know this much about Nicole Ritchie. Nicole Ritchie is still, Lionel's real daughter, but she was adopted. Like, imagine winning that lottery.

I think she was like in Oakland or something. She had a foster home? Like, imagine did Lionel Ritchie adopting? That's crazy. Like, you got to make it. Like, your life is. Like, you have to win. You're a winner.

You have to be successful at that point. You have no choice. And this fucked up. Like, just imagine Lionel Richie and his wife, like, you know, going to the foster home and getting a pick of the litter. Just knowing in the back of your mind, like, I'm literally, one kid in here is, whole life is about to completely change. And then you're just like doing any, me, mini, mony moat.

I don't know if that's how he did. Like, how the fuck, like, how am I going to decide whose life is going to be the greatest thing ever or you're going to stay in Oakland? You can't eat me, me, me, me, my, and they're babies, though, man. At that, at one point, you have to. Because it's fucked up at that point. Like, you're treating my puppies at Petland, like, look at them in the window. Like, if you went to go take a piss and had a change of heart about one kid,

now that whole kid's life is completely different. Yeah. But shout to him, of course, she did the work, because she could have been a fucking, a terror, and they, you know, bring them back. And they bring them back. Like, oh, no, this one's damage. Bring them back. This one's damaged.

This one's broke. this one's broke damn my bad that's fuck though can't can we say that yeah we can keep it no hey we're all just we're just joking yeah fuck it

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I was AC for all the Texas Rephing This was for Roy Since he's a father And And pause But you think you're hornier After having kids

Or do you get less hornier After having kids Like Because I know Like you know We just had a second Kid and everything But

Man I'm horny as fuck I know y'all You all know for being The horny podcast But What do you think, Roy? guys this guy is not crazy he's asking a very valid question yes after you have a child there's of course that time where you cannot have sex because you know she's stitched up or you know

you just can't and there's a lot going on even newborn i i said this on horrible decisions and thank god you guys didn't watch that episode but i started having wet dreams again after because i just you know, you go from fucking like a rabbit to not fucking at all. And yeah, you get way hornier because you're just not fucking. It's, I don't know if it's a nature. Maybe it's also in our animal DNA to like make more kids after you have one, but he's not wrong. That is, that definitely happens. Like, for sure happens. Okay. I hadn't had a weddream since I was like 13. And I'm just waking up with nut in my, my draw is like, what am I like? This is disgusting. What's wrong? You was ovulating?

You know, this nigger was ovulated. You wanted another baby? And also, right before, I mean, at least in my experience, right before he was about to have a kid, the doctor does ask, like, do you want to get on birth control, like, right away? Because there's going to be a time where you don't fuck and then you're going to want to fuck a lot. And do you know if you want another kid right away? So that's what a question pretty much out the gate. Get on birth control if you don't want to have another kid because you're going to be fucking once she's done there. But yes, you get much horny.

She doesn't get his horny, but you do. Okay. All right. He's not wrong. I'm glad you and this gentleman share ovulation cycles. It turns you back into like a horny teenager, for sure. Okay. It's like a new puberty to some degree.

That's, I mean, that's interesting because I don't have kids, but I'll be some days. I'll be like, fuck. Fuck. What is this? We horny as a mother. Fah! So yeah. And what's fucked up is, like, you could curb your horniness back in the day.

Like, now with Twitter algorithms, you'd be horny, like, on the subway. And then just look at your phone, it's just porn. And you're like, what the fuck, man? And then you just stay horny. Like, before when you get horny, be like, damn, horny. And, like, the feeling would pass until later. But now it's just everywhere. Yeah.

So you're just warning all the time. Ass and tities everywhere. It's a great time to be alive, though. I will say one thing. At that Chris Brown show, not the in backstage with the chicks with the weird faces. In the crowd, bad place to be horny. Boy, did he bring him out. Yeah.

There's also one thing that I think we need to give Chris Brown credit. He brings out the that have the bad feminine girlfriends. Like, I saw a lot of... with bad bitches in the crowd. I think that's offensive, but Trump is president and so it's okay, no. Wait, defensive?

Oh, if we had to believe it on YouTube, then it's offensive, but I mean, still... But keep it in here anyway. Speaking of Kanye West, I don't think he ever knew the real definition of that word. Every time he wrapped it, I was like, that doesn't fit in the context

to what I think you think it means. And I'll do anything for a blonde... Like, real, that's just... I'm not judging if that's just speed. That's your speed. I just don't think that's what you think it means. You want a lesbian. It's what you.

talk about. I would say the more masculine-leaning lesbians with very traditionally feminine, beautiful women, were in attendance at the Chris Brown. Cut off T-shirts. Yes. And, yeah. It was date night for the day. No, he'd bring him out.

He'd definitely bring him out. Do we have another voice, man? Good Bush. Yeah, as a white boy. I'm missing a Bush. that I grew up in Rafford, Illinois, you know what I'm saying, slinging, doing all that shit, got respect in the hood as a white boy. Oh, stop, stop, stop, stop. Wait, what?

Is that what he, I grew up slanging in the hood, got to the top of us. What is he talking about? I think he started with screaming white boy. Yeah, that's a white boy that grew up in Rockford, Illinois, you know what I'm saying, slinging, doing all that shit, got respect in the hood, as a white boy. Why don't we give him and them the respect to you deserves? as one of the greatest of all time, just because rhymes that he spits,

the way he spit, the way he predicted his own come up. I'm not saying, like, why don't people just give him the respect that he deserves? Because, I mean, he's part of the culture. He's a part of the culture. Even though you're white,

it doesn't mean that you ain't part of the culture. If you grew up in it, you grew up in it. So I just wanted to that much respect to you, Ma, much respect to you, Rory, much respect to you deep, all day. Love you guys.

Love the pod. Let me know your feedback. Maul. As someone that was very, very allegedly knee-deep in the dope game. I wasn't. Not way near it.

Allegedly someone that was that kingpin status. If you met this gentleman, would this be somebody that you would trust to do crimes with. He sound like an op, man. If this guy was looking for a brick and started talking, he'd be like, I'm a slang. I'm slang with you.

Let me guess he had his hat on backwards with an NY, NY, New York Fire Department t-shirt on. Like, yo, if you don't get your knock ass out of his, man. No, but I mean, who doesn't give Eminem his respect? People just, I think now, today, people don't really care to hear Eminem's rap like that, like they once did. But that doesn't mean that people don't respect Eminem's. for the legend that he is.

Like, you just don't listen to his, any of his current stuff, but his legacy is cemented. It's solidified. Like, Eminem is a fucking goat. Like, so I don't understand what he means about people don't give Eminem his respect. Like, because we don't praise the new songs that he put out and say it's amazing and great. Like, is that what he's referring to? I just don't have it from the perspective of a white boy that got respect from the hood. Yeah, I can't.

I don't look. I can't. Yeah. I don't have that lens. Also, no, look at his lens on what he thinks gets respect. That's, that's low-key racist. Yeah. Like, oh, so you think Dasher's going to, because you sold some drugs?

Yeah, I got mad. You're down. You're one of us because you sold, you sold a couple nickel bags and some pills. So he gets it. He's coming from that perspective. Like, that's why he's respected. So he doesn't understand why Eminem. Eminem is respected.

He's a legend. There's nothing that anybody can do to take that away from Eminem. He's solidified. He's a goat. One of the greatest emcees we've ever. heard, I just think a lot of his canoe stuff and current stuff, people don't hold it to, you know, the same reverence that they once did. Like that's all, but that's a lot of goats and legends that, you know, after a while, it's

kind of like, you know, we don't really want to hear from those guys as much as we once did. It's not the same content. It's they're older. They can't really talk the same way they used to. For whatever reason, it's a new wave, new generation, new era, but that's, that's, Eminem is solidified. Yeah. Nobody can ever take that away from Eminem

him. He's a goat. He's Hall of Fame. Whatever you want to, all of the accolades, all of the praise, Eminem deserves it. He worked for it. There's no doubt about that. But you can't be mad at this era and this generation now is a little more vocal about not liking his music because they just don't attach to it. That's all. Yeah. And I mean, when I was just a young white boy slinging in the hood, not everyone loved headsprung, but we still thought LL was a goat. That was a weird day. When Headsprung dropped. This is the direction you taking us out?

Big L.A. Nobody called me Big L.A. Nobody ever called L.L. Big L.A. Nobody. Everyone hated Headsprung and I was sitting there like, shit hard. Yeah. Start doing this.

My head was getting us. This shit kind of got a little rock, too. But that's a sick hook in rest. Nasty. Everybody gets your head sprung? We were just happy to be outside. Yeah, we were just happy to be outside. Man, that's all that shit was.

Product of an environment. Well, yes. That was one of the more interesting voice mills I think we've ever gotten, not because of the question, but because of everything else. From Radford, Illinois, you know, got the respect from the brothers, just langing, banging. And Demaris just walked in so I can't make any spectrum jokes because she'll stomp on them. Yeah.

And, oh, and I want an apology from you guys. Well, what? Because I talked to somebody that I've diagnosed as bipolar, and you guys said that I shouldn't do that. And he laughed. Yeah, but that doesn't mean. Well, he also said, he heard what the fuck you said

and cursed you out. Definitely. We're friends now. Yeah, yeah, that's how it goes. You hear somebody say, curse him out and go back to being friends. It's all good. Now we send each other beats.

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