New Rory & MAL - Episode 400 | Humiliation Ritual

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

First off, shoutout to us for reaching episode 400. We got an update on Lil Nas X, and Rory and Mal start to wonder if this was a humiliation ritual (16:18). A check in on DJ Khalid leads to a discussion on if the music industry is cooked and if artists like Rihanna and Jay-Z will ever drop an album again (24:55). Mal wonders if he's the right guy to review Cardi B's music (45:13). Drake is set to reappear on Bobbi Althoff's new podcast, but why won't he appear on New Rory & Mal? (54:19) Plus, Rory does some self reflection after watching the Jussie Smollett documentary (1:17:45), and a voicemail leads to a debate on what is and isn't appropriate blackmail (1:38:28) #volume *TIMESTAMPS MAY VARY BASED ON ADVERTISEMENTSSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm great. How you doing, man? I'm good. I'm good. Got a good surprise. Welcome today. So, Mara. Yeah.

Haven't seen her so long. Oh, my gosh. She's so big. She's like having full conversations. Yep. I'm praying for you, man. Attitude. Opinions.

Yo, it's so funny. seeing you go into like daddy mode like who made you a like who trusted you with a kid bro like i don't trust myself i lost her in the ball pit in the american dream yesterday oh yeah she was going to drown she got so big man it was good seeing her yeah no it was good to have her in the office for a little bit but yeah i just did uh just did it did a did in tomorrow weekend yeah you know playground swimming went to american dream overpriced shit but typical typical new jersey dad type weekend okay more or less but really wasn't much yeah i did um i walked uh it's like it's like a park not too far from where i live at it's like and they have like a

whole trail where you can run ride bikes so i just walked out listening to new music on our saturday because since it was nice out yeah that's all i didn't i ain't really going to way i went uptown went to Harlem it's still like uh do you tell that i sent you no i didn't but a few people saw me they was like yo tell rory what's up i was like i will do um so it's like it's like i will do um so it's I'll tell you, we like red and meth where we can't, I can't be no way without you. You can't be no way without me. Yeah, what's Moe? What's Moe doing?

I don't know. I have no idea. The action is, yo, what's so with Rory? He's chilling, I guess. At least they call you by your proper name. Yeah. You're like, oh, Ma, what's Rory up to? Well, I'm right here.

Shit is insane. But it's funny you did bring up Amara and it being funny that I'm a dad because I was at the plague around in Jersey City on, was it Friday or Saturday. And a pod fan that came up was like, oh, you really like a dad. Yeah, like in real life. Yeah. Because I guess it just looked weird. After you watched somebody for 10 years, like, oh shit.

Hasn't connected to my head. There'd be like a carbon copy of you. Yeah, like you really do this, dad. Like, you be with your kid. Like, you're present in your child's life. Like, for real. I think a little too present. Yeah.

I think she's getting a little too cuddled. Like, I might need to abandon her for a little bit. Yeah, give her some character. You know what I'm saying? Let her just feel a little bit what it feels like to be abandoned. Yeah. No, every now and then, like, if we're not playing hide and seek, I'll just like disappear behind the slide.

Yeah. Just to see what she do. Yeah. See how she survives? I'm serious, yeah. What does she do? Like, if you have, if you start crying? No, she looks around like with a face of concern and then she just starts searching.

Okay. But yeah, then I try to teach her like, all right, go, where'd we park? Go to the car. And like, of course, I'm watching her and I could run. But yeah, she's at, I mean, two and a half, but she's still at that age that she's consciously aware. Like, she got to learn shit. Yeah.

Mine is a sponge. Yeah. You know, I can't just keep playing fucking DMX in the car for her. I got to, like, give her some real life skills. It's so interesting to see kids get bigger, man. My nephew is like, I think he's nine now. I saw his, I think was today the first, first day of school fit? No, it's, he commented on your sister's post.

This is this. He had that shit on. This is the second week back. He was mini mall for sure going into school. It's his second week back. But it's just funny, like, like, calling him now, like, when I FaceTime him and stuff, it's like, he got like his own little, I guess, like, thing going on now. Like, he just want to be, like, by himself in his room on his phone.

And it's funny because I'm like, damn, like, yo, when you, you, I haven't spoken to you in a couple days. What's up, man? Like, where's the love? And he's just like, oh, you know, I'm just chilling. You're not that interesting anymore. What you did today? I forgot.

Like, you did that much stuff today. Like, he don't even want to kick it no more. Yeah, but like once kids get like real friends, not just friends that go to the same school or live in the same building. Like friends for real, they're not, they're not interested. Nah, yeah, I'm just. When they need something. Oh, when I just.

He'll be super interesting. Oh, no, no, no. Listen, listen. Listen, let him all the more. How's your day? Listen, I, it's so funny. How's a pod going? Yo, it's so funny, man, that you say that because anytime he called me with a certain energy,

like he's hype and he's upset, he's jumping around in his room. I'm like, here it come, man. He's about to ask what's like. Here it come. It never fails. Like, I'm like, what's up, man? Now I get right to it. Like, what you want?

Because you're not going to trick me with this. Hey, Uncle Mall. How are you feeling? No, no, no, no, no. What's up, man? How much you want? Because I know it's some money. You're about to ask for some money.

That's not a kid thing, though. Adults don't grow out of that either. No, no, no. somebody needs something. Oh, absolutely. Let's cut this time and half. Yeah, that's what you need. What do you need? Like, what do you want? What did you see? What did you want your mom to order that I got to send her the money for it? Like, don't got to give me all of this. How's your day? Like, just tell me what's up. But he's a good kid. So it's all good. Yeah. I got invited to this like ESPN launch shit on Friday. And I was like, oh, I got, you know, my daughter tonight and too late to try to find a babysitter. And they're like, no, it's kid friendly. I hopped on Instagram and saw the fucking clips in there screaming, diamonds. look like pee-p with the loudest 8-08 I've ever heard. I was like, yo, people just want to set you up

for your children to be, like, traumatized. Yeah. Like, why would you think that this event was kid-friendly? That's crazy, man. Got to know where to take. But you took... They had Websterall type speakers in like a venue the size of this. But no, but don't do that because you had a mara at his concert with the big headphones on where she was three weeks old. Yeah, but again, she had the big headphones on. And she was this big and was asleep in her stroller with the sound machine with the stroller thing that went over. So it's the young lady that bought her baby to the show in DC. That was wild.

She still, she still, nah, I don't know if that's wild than you taking Amara to a concert. It was a joy show though. Nah,

man. It's very, it's soft R&B. It's much louder than now live shows. I don't know, man. What you mean? You don't know.

We don't have no music banging at our shows. We just, when we walk out, we came out to Chief Keith. Yeah, and that's it. And that's it's us talking.

You had a three week old Amara at a show with headphones on so that it could cancel out the noise. I mean, nobody at a Roryamorea live podcast needs headphones to cancel out the noise. Maybe cancel us out long. I'm holding a young genius. But in that's the very same venue the next year, a fight broke out. That is true. Can you imagine holding a baby when that fight broke out? Yeah, but that wasn't really a fight. That was just a little like get him out of here. Yeah, but chairs were

moved. Patrons were moved. That was, if you had a child, that was, but they were breastfeeding, your titty would be out and you'd be holding your baby like, yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, but that's, that's just, you know, when you bring black people together, chairs got. to be able to move. You can't have too many bolted chairs on black people around. We need the chairs to either defend ourselves. We have a huge white audience. Yeah. We have a huge, a huge white fan. Thank you to all our white fan base. Thank you, Rory, because I'm sure they're here for you. No, no, no, no, no, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white, white hip hop would only be here for you. That's a fact. But, and we don't know they're,

like, we were talking about, we, we weren't sure if John B was white or not. A lot of our white fans are the ones where if you wear the, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't say we didn't know if John B was white. No, I said he's white. He didn't know if John B was white. white. I knew he was a white man. There's certain white people, if you get the right haircut, you can look a little bit Puerto Rican. And I think, especially our New York white fans, if they have on a fitted hat with a sticker still on the top and like that type of shape up. Albanian, for sure, Albanian. But Albanians are white except for the ones in the Bronx. They're their own race of violence. But yeah, I think a lot of our white fans I could

pass as Puerto Rican in the summer. Yeah, you could be Puerto Rican. It don't, depends on the hair, the style of the hair. You can be the Puerto Rican, you can be Mexican. You could be Armenian as well. And, I mean, only listen to Jada Kiss on the way to the show. Yeah, right here. These are, you can't tell sometime. Yeah, absolutely.

Well, Roy, happy 400th episode. This is officially our 400th. But not. Thanks. Thank you, Josh and Peach. Thank you. Damaris is celebrating. Thank you.

Damaris went. It meant the awkward episode. It meant so much to Demaris our four-year episode that she decided not to be here today so she can be on a beautiful island in Carousel. With a sandy butt, just on vacation. Sandy cheeks. But she's having a good time. So, you know, shout out to Baby Dee.

But yes, it is our four-inch episode, Rory. They thought that we would never see it. They thought that we would never be here. I don't know who they are, but I'm sure some of them are out there. They exist. Yeah, some of them are out there. They hit me up every now and get it and remind me that I ain't shit. And, you know, that, you know.

Has Khaled ever explained who this? there is no cala has a lot of explaining to do that would be like the bottom of the list you know i thought on thursday after we left the podcast that i was on dj callad's album why did you think you on dj call his album so brandy our lawyer texted me was like hey did you see that email from yesterday and i was like oh yeah yeah i'll get back to you so i open it and i'm thinking this is for jay did something for calid's album okay so i hit jay and i was like yo you never sent me what you did for Khalid. He was like, I didn't do anything for Caled. So I hit Brandy. She was like, no, this is for you. I said, I've never worked with DJ Khalid. Then I'm thinking, oh, maybe like, remember when like

Abso or like Isaiah Rashad would put our pod on there? Yeah. Because the offer was for one dollar in perpetuity. A dollar. Okay. Which is, that's no knock to Cali because sometimes when people do swaps or like work together, you just got to put a cent or a dollar on the thing. So I'm like, well, I'd never work with Cali. Maybe a B-pack or something I did for another. artists got to Khalid and now they're trying to do paperwork. So I hit Lenny, who manages Khalid and I'm like, hey, got this email confused. He said, oh, Calid said he spoke to you last week and cleared everything up. I said, I've never spoken more than three words to DJ Khalid in my entire life and they've been in passing. Like, yo, hey, salute. You know, let's work. Yeah, the three

words are we the best. It's always been in a concert that's too loud. Like, we've never had like a real conversation. Yeah. So Lenny's like, okay, I literally got the phone with him. Then he's like, I'm going to call him back. So then Lenny hits me back like five minutes later. He's like, Callis says he just got off the phone with you and cleared everything up. I said Lenny.

I swear to God. Is it another Roarie? I don't know what the fuck. You got a talking about me. And then I never heard back. Yeah, yeah. So I may or may not be on the DJ. Yeah, I'm thinking it's safe to say that that's not you on the album, but you know,

it's all good. Maybe some of my Rory Maca Roy. But see, that's happened, which maybe I've said on Patreon, not on a regular. There's another Rory from the West Coast that I think used to work with YG. And we had YG on Paloosa once or twice. So I got real cool with his team. Okay. So I would get all these like random YG records or random calls at like 4 a.m. Because I guess there's another Rory from the West Coast that is pretty popular behind the scenes.

So then I guess he maybe left YG's company started working with TDE. so I would be getting all these like Sir records. I would be getting all these TDE exclusives. And I'm like, yo, Roy, we should need to clear the sample. I'm like, I mean, I don't own the rights to it. Maybe you should talk to the person like, oh, wrong, Roy. I'm telling you, for years. I have a vault full of West Coast music unreleased because they thought they were sending it to a different, Rory.

That is crazy. Well, hopefully you are, if you are on their album, congrats. Well, I want to negotiate to at least $2. Well, yeah, you got to just for your time. I mean, the time that you spent on the art is definitely worth. But I assumed out the gate it was going to be like, oh, Rory T.D. Okay. A&R at Top Dog.

Cool, yeah. I guess he also worked with YG as well at one point because they would hit me up nonstop. But shout out to the other Rory salute. I mean, we have the same hard drive at this point. Yeah. That's funny that that got to you, though, like that email? No, it would be text. It just everyone from TDE would text me.

Oh, okay. Okay. Got you. Yeah, like, sir would just be sending me records. I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? But no, do you say you got an email or something? No, that's where it's confusing, and I still don't know. I have to follow up with Lenny. They, Calitz team put a contract together and sent it to Brandi, our lawyer. Got you. So I don't even know how that, like, how someone was like, oh. Even got to the Brandi.

How did someone even get to, that's where I was confused and thought, oh, we must be like on the intro, probably saying like, you know, Something bad, something bad even though we fuck with Khaled and support Khaled through and through. We've all made comments about Khalid shit. So maybe I'm thinking like when the, I have two Drake songs on whatever and like that. I thought maybe he was doing like a collage of snippets in the beginning and he just wanted to get paperwork. Yeah. And that wasn't the case either. Okay.

All right. Well, whatever it is, man, congrats to Khalid on whatever he got coming. And congrats to you if you have your dollar in perpetuity coming. Pretty sure that's going to help you out in this. After taxes? This tough economy. is on the dollar. I'm trying to think like what expense is what you're going to do like you got so many options so many ways you can go with that dollar well I was talking with brandy she takes 5%. We're really busting this dollar down. Yeah man. Benner takes a 20 there. Listen man. Listen, got to do what you got to do with that dollar. There's a bar in I want to say North Hollywood or Van Nuys or something where if you bring in a royalty check more for the acting side but a royalty check that's under a dollar like in the sense. Yeah. They give you a free beer and then they post the royalty checks. Like you.

all over the bar. Like people that have like worked on law and order get like a penny every six months. And you can bring that in and they can post it on their wall. You get a free beer, which I think is like a genius for like a North Hollywood, Van Nuys, struggling actor area. That's like genius. That's cool. You're definitely taking my six cents for seven dollar beer. Like that's at a fair exchange. But yes, merch on sale. I'm wearing the mall one today. New Royal Mall.com. Looks good on you. Yeah, it looks very wealthy. Yeah. Um, Yeah, I'm excited about this prosperity pack. But that's available now.

Also some other merch there. All of our episodes for $5 a month are available ad free at patreon.com forward slash numerary mall. And yeah, man, that was kind of the quick 25 minute recap of what's been going on. It's been going on in your life. Yeah, I mean, I'm more concerned about Lil Nas X, but that's, you know, it's another conversation. I did. I thought that was fake, though.

I'm not going to lie. Last week when that news broke and he was walking down, is it Studio City? I did think that that was... He's probably going on his way to that bar. Yeah. I thought that that was fake, but come to find out that he was actually arrested. He's being charged with, I think, three felonies or something like that, assaulting a police officer. You guys put me on game with this.

I thought it was still some troll. I didn't know he was really, like, butt-ass naked and being arrested. Yeah, no, he definitely was arrested. Now, I will say this. Hopefully, Little Knaz-X is okay. Well, clearly not. Right. You know, whatever he has going on.

hopefully he makes it do it now. If out of this, he puts out a record and that record, you know, goes to the top of the charts, then we're going to have to have another conversation. Because what is this, what is this moment really about if he puts out a song after this and it's on top of the charts? It's like, all right, do we start believing a lot of these theories with, you know, these humiliation rituals and industry? Like, what, I mean, we got to have that conversation.

Hopefully his health is fine. You know I'm YouTube rabbit hole, Illuminati all day. But if he put a song out next month. Do you know what you'd have to do to Little Nas X for a humiliation ritual? He dropped from heaven with his ass cheeks open and landed on the devil's dick in one of his videos. You know what you got to do for a humiliation ritual? It's not walking down venture a butt-ass naked. I forgot about that video.

You got to do some. You actually have to like dress him up and make him a Christian to him like humiliating. Timmy. Let's baptize him. You got to get them cleaned up to really humiliate him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Like, send him to a Trump rally and, like, support the troops. Then I feel like that would get him there. But I don't know, he's probably, listen, anyone that goes from that level of stardom to the drop that's there, at least potential for drug use, depression.

Yeah. I get it. He became famous out of fucking nowhere as a young kid. He was what? Was he even 20% of the time there? came out? I don't even know he was above 18. Old Town Road? Yeah. No, I think he was a little older than 18. He had to be... Either way, he was a young kid and it fucking happened out of nowhere and became

the biggest record ever. He had a good record with the Jack Harlow shit, but then everything just started to fall. Yeah. He was 20 years old, yeah. He was 20. Okay. He was still. He was young. He was young. So, I mean, I, I do empathize with, which I know fans don't give a fuck. It's like, you're rich and famous and you get to do this as a gig. Stop complaining. But I do have empathy for people that go into that level of fame and then just completely fucking drop. Depression and vices will probably start to fill in those gaps. Yeah, but people don't look at it like that.

You know that. People, you know, they look at people that have, you know, fame and money as all of their problems should be solved and life should be beautiful. But, you know, people don't understand that at those heights and, you know, with that type of success comes, you know, a lot of things that you weren't prepared for. and especially when you're young, you don't know how to deal with it. So, you know, we're cracking jokes, little Nisex. We know, we don't got no ill feelings towards you.

We do hope that he's okay. And, I mean, I guess I apologize for being a troll, but again, I sort of don't because he is the boy that's cried troll. I never know it's serious with him with anything. So this felt like an on-brand thing. Again, I didn't hear the second part of him actually attacking cops. Now you got to go back to the marketing team and be like, oh, you guys, you lived in this world a little too.

Yeah, he stole that one. He really leaned into that. This wasn't on our vision board. Yeah. So, I mean, I feel for him. But I don't know, this could also be, you know, he'll plea out and go to rehab instead of jail. Because, hey, guys, I have a drug problem. That's why I did this.

And we'll do jail time. And then he'll sample Amy Wine houses. They try to make me go to rehab. Yeah. It'll be a number one song. And then we'll be back to talk about. It's the rinse and repeat of celebrities. We've seen this thing.

This thing we've seen, bro. We've seen this thing. already. We've seen it. That's all I'm saying. We've seen this thing. Sometimes you're really a drug addict and sometimes you're just Vincent Chase that went on a little coke binge with a porn star and just didn't want to go to jail. And sometimes you just haven't found your single yet. So, you know, sometimes you've taken all your records to Rory from TDE and he said, this ain't the one. This ain't did. We can't go with this one. We need something else. Let's do something else. But yeah, shit. How would you, how would you

want your public meltdown to go? How would I want my, damn, I don't want a, public meltdown. No, but if I had it. We're just living in the hypothetical that there was a public meltdown. I hope to God I would be high. Doing a public meltdown sober would be like first and secondhand embarrassment. I want to live in the. Nah, but that's the thing.

I would want to be sober. A sober meltdown would be so embarrassing. Yeah, like I want to be sober for like, because what is the, what would I be like killing me for? All right. I'm not saying you would do this. I'll put myself in Little Nas X's shoes or lack there of shoes. if I was walking down Ventura butt ass

saying all the shit he was saying then attack police officers and then you later found out I was sober what would you say on this podcast you walk down the street butt naked everybody thought you were drugged up out your mind and then you later find out like nah they did a drug test he was clean

you'd be like go lock that fucking person off no I mean I would have well that's a sick fuck yeah but it but you got to I don't have the excuse of some type of opioid. Because that's just streaking. That's just like, you know, we're going streaking.

You don't have to, you don't have to, you know what I mean? It's like, okay, you lost the, or you lost the bag. Can you streak at a, a slow pace? You got to have a light jog. What's up to you? And a group. You streaking by yourself is weird. Because, I mean, we've, we had a friend of mine growing up.

We had him ride around the Bronx, like, butt naked on the bike when he lost a bet. I was about to, I was just about to say, did he lose a bet? Yeah, because he lost a bet. But it was the craziest shit. the time because it's like, yo, he's really on this bike, one of the busiest intersections in the Bronx on the Grand Concourse in Fordham Road, butt naked riding a bike. Yeah, but that's a bet. Like, I can see a white person doing the streaking thing.

But, like, y'all version of that is like in the basement and belly when they made homie strip. No, that was totally different. That's your version of streaking. No, that was totally different. That's not streaking. That's black people's version of streaking for sure. No, that's not true. Now, Little Nas X, hopefully, again, he's fine and he gets herself cleaned up, whatever drugs he was on.

But yeah, man, I bet not see no number one song next month. I know that. I would hope mine, obviously no one will be harmed, but I would definitely want to be on an opioid where I was hallucinating. I would want to have, like, maybe a super soak or gun, like just so it would be like fun, silly mental breakdowns. But I would want to say not profound. things but open-ended things that Illuminati YouTube would pick up and take as law. Because there's like certain people, who's the guy, rest in peace to the gentleman, he was cool with a guy from friends that also passed away.

He killed himself, but he was going in on Hollywood right before he died. Is it Matthew Perry? He was friends with Matthew Perry. Yeah, sorry for forgetting his name and rest of peace. He had put out a bunch of videos before he took his own life. quote unquote exposing Hollywood and granted he could have been right but there's also a high chance

he could have just had some mental health issues and some drug issues and was just saying shit well that's what they're hoping that people think and I'm saying I want during my mental breakdown I want to say a bunch of open-ended things that make me look like some profit or some genius and I'm literally just babbling yeah that's how I want

my mental breakdown to go like now he's really exposed in the music industry and it's like meanwhile he just had the same name as an A&R at TDE like he really has no pull he's not even on Cali album like he went crazy because he thought he was on cala's album and come to find out he's not on call his album so he just started tweaking that would be a funny bit if if once the calid album comes out i stand outside rock nation office picketing with the contract at least pay me my

dollar yeah give me my dollar yeah give me my dollar yeah calis shouldn't that dollar man cash at that i feel like callid now that that's verse swaps If I'm doing it for a dollar, that's verse swap, so he got to come on the pod. Callan ain't doing no pod. What? I think this will be the first run because things are a bit different for Callie, that he would have to go on a proper press run. Why are things different?

Because I think him as the promotional machine isn't what it was before because he's pulled back a bit. Like during the Vine days and was it Vine that he got super popular on? It was before TikTok. Snapchat. Like he could go on Allen. He could do, which he probably still can. he was like he was himself the entity he didn't need to like the press run was happy to have him

not the other way around he's pulled back from a lot of that stuff so i think he's now needs to go back to the press i mean which is fine i mean i think calid is in a very obviously you know we we fuck with cal but i think this may be like to what you're saying i think he's in a very different space now though yeah i mean i felt since father of assad which i thought was a really, really good album, that it's kind of been wishy-washy. Like, there's joints, but they're not as good as the previous Cald projects. And he's been fine. Like, maybe he doesn't hit number one because of a Tyler album, but he still has, like, joints. I've seen Khalid fail with two albums by Calid standards, not by, I could dream to do the numbers that

Cald does. But, and he's fine. Like, he still comes back. People are still going to listen to a Caled out. He's still going to get all the A-list artists. Is it? I think so. I think he still. I think he still has. Well, yeah. I mean, he kind of went out. Want to live there. But if you look, even then, has Drake given anyone more music besides maybe Ross? And a lot of those records are Rakhala records? Like, yeah, but I mean, when I say he's in a difference, like, he doesn't have the two Drake records that he probably was banking on. I mean, he got one of the most iconic Jay-Z verses of the last 15 years. I don't think Jay Z will give him another verse. I think that was J's.

I think God's did was J's. Like, you got to think about it. Jay performed that record at the Grammys outside of like. The whole verse. Like crypto arena. Like, you know what I mean? Like he really gave Calid like a whole thing. I didn't like that they put Friday at the kids table with John Legend.

Yeah. But I mean, to the point of not having Drake records that you obviously were banking on. I don't think he'll have another JZ verse. Here's the thing, though. I didn't think on God did he would get a JZ verse, and he got a four-minute J-Z verse. I'll admit when I'm wrong, and I probably said it on the podcast.

I ain't know why he'd get another J-Z-V. I just didn't feel like the timing was there or Calid was even focusing on music at that point. And then he got one of the greatest hove guest features ever. Which is why I think he won't get another one. I think that was J's like. But Jay will do things. Jay will give verses to his investments.

And that's why you get two Beyonce and Jay Z records on two different Calib projects, one with future. Like he's invested in Calid. He manages Calid. So. Yeah, but I still don't, again, with an artist like Jay, who's obviously a legacy artist at this point, like I just don't know what he does after a record or a verse like God did. Like now what? We're going to give us another. I got the keys.

Like you don't really, to me, God it just feels like this is my, I'm bowing out. like I'm done. You know what else? What else, what other type of song could Callet and or Jay make for Cal? You know what I just don't understand where you go from there. I don't think he should pivot to the younger, younger audience.

I think throwing them in the mix a little bit as whatever, but Callet's real connections of where he can have moments is when he gets legacy acts, i.e. getting a Jay-Z verse to be the intro on his album last time. That was the moment. I mean, Rihanna, technically, I guess, was legacy. when wild thoughts came out, but having moments like that, having Alicia Keys on your project, having like all these crazy A-list names that don't usually do shit, but we'll be like,

all right, I'll give my verse for the year, or my record for the year to Caled. I don't know if the younger generation gives a fuck about that, but I also don't know if legacy acts are running to do that anymore either. Like, Rihanna, it took a Smurfs movie that she was fucking heavily involved in to get a record out of that. I don't know if she's doing a talent album. I mean, do you think she would get on there? I don't think Rihanna is making music because Rihanna realizes or feels like it's just not worth her time.

The music industry is, it's a dying thing. Like, what is the music industry? You see all these artists from years ago, where we've seen everybody selling their catalog. Yeah. And we didn't know why. Why are people selling their entire catalogs for, because it's like, if I can get this much money for this music now, with the way streaming is affecting, you know, things and

how art is paid, AI. I think artists just realized like this thing that we came in on with this with this thing called, you know, the music industry is changing. I don't think that somebody like Rihanna, obviously she doesn't need the money. So it's like it comes to the thing. Is she inspired? Yeah, that's what I think it comes down to. But why is she not inspired? Because of all the bullshit that surrounds it, the way people move on for music so fast now.

it's like you can put out a classic album right now and people will be done with it in a month yeah it's so it's like when the artists that you know like a legacy artist Rihanna JZ uh whoever else the legacy artists are you can see why they would not be inspired to put out new things if they're making so much money in other areas Rihanna is you know on top of the beauty world right now billion dollar industry like she doesn't music to her it has to either inspire, she has to be inspired, or just at a point where she's just like totally in love with the sound that she found in the studio and, you know, like the things that have come together as far as the songs. But to just be like, Rihanna, give us an album,

she's not doing that. Like an artist like that is not doing it because they feel like, yo, it's not what y'all think it is as consumers, us on the outside. Well, we know a little bit more about the industry. But the average consumer doesn't realize the business The music business is not what it once was. But that was the beauty of the Khalid album or the Khalid single, i.e. a hove. Like, I have no interest in putting out an album this year, but there's plenty of things I do want to say that I don't address unless I'm putting music out. Me personally, I don't want Jay to put out of album. No, I know, but I'm saying in Rihanna's dance.

But only because people are going to be inspired by one record or you could have one record on your hard drive that you love. And it's like, I have to wait to put this out because it needs to be surrounded by something. but that was the genius of the Cald project. Like even the Jay-Z and Beyonce's shining record, which I think is incredible. It's one of my favorite Jay-Z and Beyonce collapse. I don't think they would have ever put that out had it not been around something specific.

Right, but it has to make sense. We got Beyonce rapping with Future and Hove on top off. Like, that's not coming out unless Beyonce is doing something or Jay-Z is doing something. Calid gives those opportunities. I just don't know if anyone's running to care for that in the current climate, which is not a knock to Khaled.

not to the climate. But I mean, Rihanna putting out that smurf thing, I don't think she's inspired or I think she would have put music out because again, she doesn't need the money.

She doesn't have to march to anyone's drums. She can do her the fuck she wants. She's inspired. She does whatever she wanted to. If she wants to put out fucking Celtic reggae, she could do it because it's Rihanna.

Yeah. I feel like she would do that with a Calid album if that was a thing that, if those moments mattered anymore. I just don't know if moments are a thing in the music industry anymore. What are the moments?

everything outside of the music is the moment. Is it just us seeing like artists, names featured together on the song that we never thought, like, okay, we never thought we would see these two work together. Like, that's a moment. Okay, we got to hear what that's about, what they did. But again, even with that, once you hear the record, it's like, we just move on. The consumers, the average, we just move on from things so fast now. Things don't sit with us.

Like, that's why back to what I was saying, I don't. really care if Jay puts out another album because I know what's going to happen. The people that grew up with Jay and that love Jay and hold them to high regard, we're going to love it. But there's a whole new generation now and people that have platforms and spaces and they don't care about Jay like that. Like they don't hold them to that regard like we do. Like Cardi just did the sample, the record imaginative players. That song started charted again. That's the first time some people ever even heard that Jay record. Yeah, but again, with someone like a Rihanna or a Jay, why would their mind move to

the younger generation? Why would they even care about that? I mean, not that they don't care, but to an extent you have to care about the younger generation because it's a large part of the consumers. It's a large part of the people that are, you know, influencing the sound and the new trends and things that are going on, even the slang, the way people talk, the way people, with dress, it's always going to lean a little younger. That's just how it's always been. So you have to kind of be in tune with what the new generation is kind of doing and what they're into now.

Not that you have to care. I don't like Jay and Rion, these people are, you know, life is set forever for these people. But I'm just saying, if you're going to put your art into this space, into the consumer space, you have to look at who's consuming it. And a large part of the consumer base is the younger audience. Well, then let's stay specifically on, rap because pop is a bit different. Yes, it's different with Rihanna than it would be with a hover or Nas. I mean, for example, even like when Michael Butterflies hit, but did that album hit, like it is definitely different with the pop world because the young generation, no matter what, you're a pop star. Yeah. The same way I always tell you that Chris Brown is big than Cuebo.

I don't understand why you don't think that, but the younger generation still cares about Chris Brown as a pop star. Yeah. With that said, why would Nas put out six projects with hip boy? Who cares with the younger generation? I'm feeding my audience and showing hip hop being the youngest genre how it's aging. They're leading the charge of that. 444 was a prime example of how hip hop can age. No disrespect to KRS or Big Daddy Kain or whatever, but they never kept going with the times. Hove and Nas have shown how hip hop can age.

Why would they have to beat to the drum of hip hop just being a young man's game? At one point it was because it was just a young genre. Now it's not. Hoveg put out seven albums, I guarantee you his core would give a fuck and he would sell out arenas constantly. He'd be the grateful. No, his core. He'd be Led Zeppelin. He'd be, the core. The core, the core will always care. The core will always care. Now I'm not saying. But their core is their core. Right. I'm not saying Jay doesn't, doesn't, doesn't, it's not an MF Doom core. Right. It's, it's an arena core. You know, 100%. I'm not saying that an artist like Jayze or a person or

businessman like Jayzee, he doesn't really, he's not trying to. He's not trying to. to, you know, move to the beat of somebody else's a move when we say move it. He doesn't, that doesn't apply there. I'm just saying that when you're selling anything, I don't care what it is as a business person, you have to look at the consumer base and you have to try to, you know, again, your core is your core, but you do want to pull in some of the newer audience and things like that just because that's just the business that you're in. You're in the entertainment business. Now, with the music business, you know, with the music business, you're in the music this being in the status in, back to what we're saying about Calid,

do you go just legacy album with Legacy Acts? I don't know if you, I don't know if Calid is willing to do that. I mean, I think he has a clip song. I'm just, I'm just like guessing shit. Yeah. Like, I think there's probably a Clips record on there. I think you'll probably get a Young Thug record. Mm-hmm.

I think he'll get, I'm sure, Beves. Yeah, but now, but now, but now, he's a bunch of Beavik. That's what I'm saying, but now we just talk about things that we've already gotten. It's already happened. I'm just trying to think of most. moments that would make sense. So now that goes back to why I'm saying I don't think Jayzee gives Khalid a verse, at least not for this, at least not for this project, because again, I just gave you the gods did. We did that. That was a whole thing. Like, we was at the table to find the last supper

type of vibe. Like, we gave you that. Where do we go now? Like, do we give another, a diet version of that? Like, it just starts to feel like, okay, we've had this. You're giving us the same thing. you're just kind of like, you know, reheating it and add a little more. But that's been, Calid, even when I thought his albums were great. But how long is that, how long did he sustain that? Father Oz was the last one that I was like, I fuck with this project. Yeah, but that's, so again, so now we're going to start in like, uh, it was cool. And even that one wasn't up to like superpar as a rest of them, but it was still a solid, solid project.

Yeah. There's records I go back to on that often. But I think it goes back to your original point, which I completely agree with, with Rihanna and Ove. It's if you're inspired. Like God did, Calid was at the office playing, that record was Ross, Wayne, and Friday. Like, he wasn't playing that for Hove to get on. Well, well, let me stop right there. Whenever an artist plays a record like that around there, don't, you know, you don't see, don't do this thing that you're doing.

You know how this industry shit goes. If Jay-Z is sitting on that couch and I have a record and I'm playing this record, trust and believe it's something in my DNA that's saying I hope he loves this shit and he wants to go to the studio right now hove and lenny are his managers obviously he goes to rock to play them the music I'm sure if it would have been the bougie bontan record if hove would have been like yo I'm gonna I'm sure calid would want oh one anything he does any fucking thing it's if he's inspired I don't think he was going in there like I just blocked a verse off on God did because the whole shit after that was like, damn, do we keep Wayne and, because Wayne and Ross

have great verses, but it's like, this is the moment. Is this just the intro? Is it just this five minute whole verse? And then we move on. Because I already told Wayne and Ross stay on this. I think it comes down to inspiration. If Hope, why I'm saying, if Hove hears something he's inspired by, he'll do it. I don't think he's sitting there like, this is the Caled album. I don't give him anything. If he doesn't hear anything, then he's not getting a verse. Now, okay, you're right. Because there's a lot of shit. But I look at it differently. Hove also gets inspired when y'all have talked wild shit about him.

There's a lot of Super Bowl shit I'm sure he wants to address. Yeah. Shit, even when they had written testimony. Hove had shit to get off his chest with the NFL stuff. Like, nah, I have something to say. And if you put something out, all right. Yeah, but you know how the industry is. And we know Caled is.

He has a thousand Caesar Palace casino bars in his head right now. Caled is the fucking one of the greatest salesman in the industry. Oh, for sure. Yeah. If you think that Cala didn't walk that record, in that room and he didn't look at Jay in his eyes and start moving his shoulders trying to feed Jay that energy

like yo you don't feel that like you don't we know Caled is a salesman he's gonna he gonna sell you shit you didn't even know he wanted to buy so it's like if he played that verse for Jay of course he was playing I just think there's certain I just think there's certain artists

at a point in their career that the sales pitch doesn't work is what I hear on this record I recently watch it's not that it's not the sales pitch doesn't work, it's that it doesn't work on you anymore. That's what I'm saying. It's going to work on somebody else. That same thing is going to work on somebody else. I said an artist at that point. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Even I rewatched, I'm sorry everyone for making this Hove cast, I rewatched the black album, a fade-to-black movie. And even when

Farrell, after the phone call was trying to pitch, because we know Forel to be a salesman, Hove walked in, throws keys on, and Farrell said, all right, it's like the end of Carlito's way. And Hove went, that's the speech? Yeah, that's it. Get right to it. Some shit is just like, all right. Yeah, lie. Sometimes you sell it.

Hey, started mumbling the moment those fucking four chords came in. Like, all you had to do was play this. You didn't have to sell this. Like, this is going to sell us. But Hoh, like, that's the speech? You're not going to try to pitch me on this? That's it. That's it.

So, again, I don't know, you know, what Callet does with this project. Just give Rory his dollar. And life will be, life will be better, better for everyone. Will you protest outside, Rock Nation with me? Oh yeah, yeah. You gotta give me half of that dollar though. We got to bust that.

Judging by our contract, actually. You gotta give me half of that dollar. Because I even asked brain that said, did Mall get one too? Because again, I thought it was a podcast thing. That's on the arm. Keep that. Don't even worry about that dollar.

That's all you. Eat. See, that's not. Eat. You got to eat. You got to eat. I want all my people to eat. No, I want everybody.

Everybody eats for me, man. It's all love. All the time. All the time. And not, it's never been a, it hasn't been a day, Rory, that I have not thought about this. Ma, have I asked you this ever thought? Every day you text me and you ask me this every day. Okay, but maybe it's not resonating with you. Okay. Have you ever saw a phone plan at all wow, great price? But then

your bill is way higher. You're like, yo, what the... Absolutely. But with Boost Mobile, you pay $25 a month forever. That's unlimited. Talk, text data. That's why I can ask you this question and text you this question every day, Maul. Every day. It's because I have unlimited data for $25. And you got to visit boostmobile.com or or you can head to your local booth store today and get unlimited talk, text, and data for $25 a month forever. 5G speeds are not available in all areas. After 30GB, customers may experience slower speeds. Customers will pay $25 a month as long as they remain active on the boost unlimited plan. I can see a Cardi moment on there. On Cali's.

If we get pivot from Calib, because I do want to get into Cardi and imaginary player and not that charts matter much to me, but I think there be a Cardi's time. I don't want to talk about any female rappers no more. Why? See, that's sexist. No, no, no. I know DeMeres isn't here. No, no, no, you know why? We can be pigs.

It's not that a sex. I mean, I want all of them to keep talking their shit and looking good and doing their thing. But it's not, I just don't think it's fair for me to speak on their music. Because they're not making, they're not making these records for me, a person like me. Like, they don't care. Like, Cardi doesn't care if I like her verse. Nicky doesn't care if I like her verse. Like, they don't, they don't give a fuck.

No, they do care. No, they just don't want you to shit on. it. They care if you shit on it. But if I don't speak on it, I don't think like, then nobody's going to be upset. Can I play, can I play Demaris today? Cool. Okay. I think they do care not specifically about us per se, but they are in a male dominated field where male opinions are the ones that give you a stamp, which I would argue with Demaris that women are the people that move the fucking needle. And when women like some men going to like it, we're going to love it. If they like it, we love it. But I do see that side from a woman's point of view there that like, yeah, I need to

male media to fuck with this too because y'all have stamped hip hop has been male dominated for 50 years yeah but it's not y'all are the ones that say when something's good or not as far as perception yeah but if you go to a niki show like you don't need a man yeah like to stamp anything at all like but that's just not she got stamped by fendi like you get a stamp based off on the on the business side on the business side on the business side with her own shit on the business side i understand that but media business do go hand-to-hand so they do care in that regard. It doesn't. Like, and it's, it's honestly unfair because, again, if it's a Cardi or a Nikki or Meg or,

you know, Lotto or whoever, you know, the, the ladies that are putting out music, they're not, they're not recording these verses thinking, oh, I hope he likes it or he likes it. It's more so like they want the women to love it. My phone would say otherwise. Huh? My phone would say otherwise. But that's because, that's because you're saying, if you hear the song, you're saying something to the side of you don't like it or you're not feeling it, that's when it becomes

a conversation to your phone like, yo, why did you say that, da, da, da, but I just don't feel, you know, just being honest. Like, it's just like, because that's, that's not for me. It's almost like, why am I even speaking on that when I know that wasn't created with me and mine? Like, that's not. I don't think that's even really a gender thing per se, because even when we came in here to talk about the Cardi shit, I started by saying I shouldn't be the one to review this. But this is God. I agree. God awful. But I agree. But I shouldn't be the one because, again, it's not made for me. It's not I'm not supposed to like it to an extent. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, this wasn't

written and laid for. But it's made for the masses so the masses can comment. Even if it's not for me. But what masses though? You don't think Cardi is trying to go out to the masses? Yeah, but somebody like me who grew up on a different type of hip hop, different type of rap. Well, but it's damn any of the same neighborhood as there. Fucking 15 minutes away. Yeah, but the gap. You, do you dated a Cardi. Yeah, but the gap though. No, Not her.

Yes, he cleaned that up. Okay, they're not going to clean. No. The clips is crazy is all I'm saying. Just clean that up. No, not her. But yes, we're from the same neighborhood, same culture.

So I understand that. But again, it's a different time now when you're told about rap, hip hop and, you know, the type of music. Like,

it's just different. It's a content thing. I think you would judge miseducation if it came out. I think you would judge a Lil Sims album. I think there's plenty of women artists that would

be just, I think you're just talking about the content per se. It's the content. It's not for me. That content is not for me. Now, I love being demaris. Would you not say that imaginary player Cardi's not really doing pussy rap on that? She's totally talking to shit like, like,

not like hoe of everyone relax, but she just flexing the way any other rapper would. It's not a pussy rap record. Yeah, but it's not again. It's just the tone of her voice? No, no, it's just the content. Me, it's like my demographic. It's not, it's not for, it's not for my demographic. It's not for my age group. It's not for, like it's just not, you know what I'm saying? It's

like I want to see her all the success that she's shooting for. I want to see her get it because again, I'm supporting Cardi, but it's almost unfair for me to sit here and give my opinions on a Cardi record because, again, I don't think she made that record caring if I like it or not. You know what I'm saying? So it's like for me to speak on it, it's like with proof, that's just where I disagree. I'm just saying, I'm just saying that's how I feel. It's like, damn, man, I don't really, I want to talk about it. Well, then I'll give her your number and she can curse you out instead.

Because even, look, look, even as much as I love Cardi and support and all of that, I don't play Cardi's music. Where would I play Cardi's music? I don't think. It's not,

but that's what I'm saying? So then why, when she puts out a song, why am I even speaking on it? Now, I'm saluting her. I want, I want everybody that fuck to love it, but for me to sit on it

on my platform and speak on it, sometimes I'll be like, damn, I don't want, and you know this, But honestly, I don't want to speak this. But again, not because I don't like Cardi and I don't support it. I don't think she's dope. It's because I feel like it's unfair because she really is not making music in these songs for somebody like me.

She's not. So it's like, why the fuck am I even speaking on it? No, because I fuck with her. I want to speak on it and, you know, give her her praise. Like, yo, do your thing. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm rooting for you. But it's almost unfair to even talk about the music.

Because, again, I'm not going to be playing Cardi's music anywhere. You do this weird thing in podcasting where you like try to make logical sense. No. And this is a world that it doesn't have it. But let me explain something to you where I know. I know. We're in a universe where a logical sense is not. I understand that.

I understand that. Listen, but I understand that. But that's just who I am. I'm being me. It's not a character. I have to bring logic into everything. I have to. I know I'm at a handicap with this.

Trust me. We've been doing this for years. I know where I stand on things, my thought process, my moral compass, I am at a handicap because everybody is not going to be aligned with the things that I feel and things that I say. I get that, but I can't stop being who I am. I mean, what's gotten tiring on my side, like mentally exhausting, which has become a handicap, I always want music to be good. I'm not one of those weird people that's like praying for music to be bad, but also even artists that I do really like and sometimes their music isn't the best,

I don't want to come in here and shit on it. Like I know art is to be critiqued, but I just don't really have that in me anymore to like, if I think someone is like genuinely trashed, I'd rather like not talk about it. Because then also like, what's the game we're playing? What is the dopamine hit for the listener? Right.

You're just screaming that I don't like an artist that we've all liked forever. Now their music sucks. Right. I just don't. Like that's why I also on the side pray like, like Jid's album. I was like, please be good, please be good.

Why? Because I would never want to come in here. And it's not because I'm phony or not realizing that this is the job, too, to say when something is bad or good. It's just exhausting to just tear people down. Like, yeah. When it comes to like Playboard Carding, that's saying for me. That shit could be illmatic to you. It's trash to me.

I don't like I don't care, nor does Cardi nor does the fans. Right. And it's not personal to the artist. Of course not. Right. Artists that I do care about. Like, thank God the Cliffs album was great. Thank God JID's album was great.

Thank God Ghostface album is dope. Yes, which was the only one that I did listen to this week. But yes, that was one of those two. That was like, Mass appeal. Come on, please. Yes, they got it right. Smoked it. Yeah.

So yeah, I don't know. It's just, which I'll probably, you know, they'll be comments because I know a lot of the pod fans. Like that's a lot of them get off on that, like not positivity. And I'm not saying we have to just sit here and have flowers and just be like, everything's great. No, we should tell the truth. but I don't always just want to shit on someone because I don't particularly like their music.

Like, I'm not going to go back to imaginary players. Mm-hmm. But again, it's not really like for me. Am I excited for the Cardi album? Do I pray it's fucking good? I'm on the same time. Because I like good music and I hope Cardi succeeds in her life.

I don't think she's a scumbag. If she was a dirtbag, like, fuck it. Right. I don't know. I just don't understand that concept of like hoping things suck. Like, then we can tear them down. Like, yo, it's over for them. Yeah.

But you know that that's, we see, do you know that that's just how this thing is? Oh, no, for sure. It's not just podcasting. It's just a reflection of crabs in the barrel. Negative, negative things are going to travel fast. Literally all the political news outlets want the world to end. Exactly. Nobody wants to be like, hey, that bill was good.

Yeah. That actually is a great idea. Nobody wants to say that. Nobody. And it's like, all right, cool. I get it, man. But again, sometimes we sit here and, you know, just talking my certain artists, you know, I'm just like, damn, man, because that's not, it's not.

It's not for me, so I don't really want to talk. But again, I want... I think that reflection has starting to got on your man's. As far as what? I think when people project negativity on you for so long, sometimes you become a caricature of what people project on you. I think, I know Drake be joking around, but Rob Markman is like one of the few journalists that we have.

And I know, I mean, Drake didn't say anything crazy. But I think him, he's projecting, because people have been shitting on him for a year. And I think now he's just getting his... payback, but he doesn't need to. Rob don't bother nobody unless he said something about Drake that I missed. I just feel like attacking, even though I don't think I say negative things about Drake, I think my world would be more of a place for Drake to attack than Rob's world. And I'm not saying me specifically or Rob specifically. I just think Rob is on a journalistic side and we're on a commentary

side. And I think Rob is very objective and fair in everything that he does. I think a lot of stuff that we do, even though we are objective, has emotion involved in it as well. So it's an easier and forth and I can see where artists feel a certain way. Does Rob bother anyone? I think Rob is an incredible journalist and one of the few hip-hop journalists we have left. Yeah, but you're speaking, you may be speaking about things that you probably just don't know. Oh, that's why I asked, unless there was something I missed. Because I remember even when Drake was uh, rosting me in the IG comments, he kept bringing up Rob Markman. I was like, why keep bringing up Rob? Is there some history there that I'm unaware of?

I mean, I don't know, probably. I just don't think that Drake is the type of person that will, you know, talk down to somebody or talk negatively about somebody unless it's a, you know, you never really see, you only see the, the person with the bigger platform strike back. You never see what the person is mad at or what they're responding to. You only see the response. So I think that's what this is. I think it's some, some things behind the scenes that may have happened over the last couple of years that, you know, just left a bad taste in Drake's mouth. And of course, because he is who he is, we're only going to see his response. And now it looks like he he's, you know, disrespecting the journalist who doesn't bother anybody and, you know, people

like to do that. Admittedly so, I did, of course, I follow, you know, a lot of what Rob does, and I did follow the battle back and forth. I thought he did a great job covering the battle. I'm sure there was something maybe I could have missed. I don't think it's coming out of nowhere. I also think, though, Dragan in a jokingly way sometimes is disconnected with media and who he thinks people are. And it's not a narcissistic thing. I can just only go off me as an example, when he would put me and Rob in certain categories of like just these straight hip hop nerds like when he would make jokes of like,

Roy would only like me if I worked with Griselda. I'm like, dude, do you like know I like only listen to pop music and R&B? Right. Like as much as the underground hip hop nerd I am, I think you have me skewed. Like I'm not the guy that's like, yo, did you hear immortal technique, dance with the devil? Like I'm not that guy.

And I think he probably thinks Rob is the representation of the older hip hop nerd that rejected Drake in 09 when things started to change. Whereas I was the one that was like, oh, finally, this guy saved fucking hip hop because it was going in a bad direction at that point. Yeah, I think he has a different, because he's so up here, he may not fully understand everyone's taste level or what we talk about outside of things that don't pertain to him, which is fine. He doesn't need to do that.

But we all live in our bubble. I just thought it was kind of like out of left field. Rob is nice as fuck Yeah but that's again He probably has a different For sure You know what I mean Different different relationship with Rob

And some things were said Or some things were done That he knows about that You know We don't have no idea It's like it's a lot of that sometimes Oh you only see You only see the person

With the bigger platform response You're talking to me Yeah The amount of times I've replied to something And the whole narrative history Is erased from it And I look like the fucking psychopath

I'm like dog Do you not realize I've been ignoring someone for five years and I finally say so. But of course, because of the time that we're in, anything that Drake says now is super magnified and he's super, he's super upset and he's salty and he's disgruntled and, you know, he thinks the world is against it. It's going to be all of that added to that now.

Just because of the things that we've gone through in the last couple years and where we are now. So no matter what he does, it's going to be looked at as, oh, this is his response because, you know, maybe Mark supported the not like us record. So now Drake's mad at anybody that did that. And when it's like, okay, you may think it's that, but it may be something else too. Maybe something deeper than that as well.

Yeah, I mean, if you got mad at everyone that like, not like us, it'd be a, be exhausting. This is what I'm saying. And again, we get off the Drake thing. This is the one thing. I'm not saying you, but a lot of the OVO fan base, it's okay if y'all can say like, you know, maybe Drake is a little, I don't want to say salty,

but feels away. Like, that's okay. I'd feel like. Oh, I've been saying that. I was like, yo, he's so unbothered. I'm like, you should be bothered. No, I've been saying that probably the loudness.

He's okay to feel. No, he's like, let's be. No, Drake's not thinking about it. Yeah, he probably is thinking about that. Bro, listen, if you know, if anybody knows, you know, I'm very vocal. People celebrated and danced to him being calling the worst thing you could ever be called as a man.

How do you feel about the Bobby Altoff? I don't know if his announcement. that they are working together because again like hove when I said he'll do stuff for his investments as Drake just doing a Bobby interview after she closed her deal which I thought was a good move

she tried to Frank Ocean her deal said her her podcast was over and then relaunched a whole new one and her and Drake are back in the bed just with a better background I don't think Drake is just doing this unless he's invested in something with Bobby I mean it could be that

he could have some type of investment investment with Bobby and, you know, in the podcast and, you know, have her as his, you know, I like to call, you know, how Michael Jordan had Amar Rashad. You think Bobby is Amar? Yeah, like, I mean, just somebody that he could just go to and have a cool, fun conversation with where he, you know, it's not no bullshit. Or, I mean, Iceman's name is Bobby Drake. So I don't know if that plays into it, right?

All you YouTubers that are forcing artists to have all. these entendras and Easter eggs. They did that. They did that with the whole Kendrick shit. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying. No, I know. I'm just saying it could be.

In general where now everything has to mean something. I'm just saying it could be. It could be is what I'm saying. That's all. It could be a much of different reasons why if somebody feels like, you know, he's doing it because I don't know. Like he's attracted to Bobby also. I don't know.

Whatever people are thinking, think that. I'm just saying whatever it is, cool. He's doing a podcast with Bobby Alto. And of course, I love when artists, there's stories and Easter eggs and things, those are writers. Those are generational talents. I like all that. But I also sometimes like, okay, Illmatic was my best album.

All right, I guess we'll go with Stillmatic. Like, not everything has to be. You're right. Sometimes it's just like, which is a classic. Right, absolutely. Like sometimes everything doesn't have to be. I get why Drake is doing with Pinocchio and he's carrying the bag. What does the bag mean?

That's because we live in this world now where everything is. a rabbit hole. There's a thread on Twitter. Everything, even if it doesn't make sense, has to make connected to something else. I just would Bobby, I mean, I said the same thing with Aden, and I can be objective and understand why Drake would want to avoid hip-hop media or avoid any real conversation until the time is right of when that album comes out and he does want to address everything. But, you know, perception is still a thing, which I think Drake still cares about. Yeah, I don't want to hear it. I mean, I liked him and Bobby on the first interview. You know, you know, on the first interview, but

for what? Who would you like to hear him with? Us. And they're just going to flip this to be like, I'm salty, anyone that... If Drake went to drink champs tomorrow, I'd be ecstatic. I wouldn't. If Drake wins a Hot 97 tomorrow, I'd be a static.

If Drake went to Charlamagne tomorrow, I'd be ecstatic. If Drake sat with Rob Markman, I'd be ecstatic. But Bobby also, if you're not ecstatic. I'm going to watch it. No, he doesn't want to Drake Rob Markman. No, I'm just trying to let you guys know. it's not a salty thing where I'm like mad that Drake is. I'm not the person that's like, if Drake won't sit with me, you know, like, then fuck

him. The way they tried to paint Elliot when Elliott had pointed out like, you're not sitting with anyone from the culture and they took that as you're salty, that he won't sit with you, when Ellie just said somebody of the culture. I'm just saying I want the Drake interview that answers the questions that I have as a fan at the moment. I'm sure this Bobby shit will be funny. Their first interview was fucking hilarious.

I've watched it more than once. It's very funny. I just don't know. I really care at this point. Yeah, I just don't. I mean, no matter who you want Drake to sit with, once he sits with them, people are going to say, oh, they didn't ask him this. He didn't talk about that. He didn't.

And even if he does, even if they ask all the questions that we all want to hear answers to, however Drake answers it, people are going to fill away about that. Listen, somebody. It's going to be think pieces about his answers. Somebody that's going to be clips about his answers. And it streams about how come he didn't answer this. It's like, everybody just shut the fuck up. somebody perfect right now. Angie Martinez.

Angie creates a very warm environment. Does not avoid questions because Angie will ask you that shit, but she will do it in such an amazing way. That's why she's so good. That's why she's a legend. It'll almost feel like it's a soft question, but she's really asking that shit. She would be a perfect person.

Yeah, but then if he goes to sit with Angie, know what they'll say? Oh, why he didn't sit with Black Boy Max? Why he didn't go sit with this person? Why he didn't go to Charlemagne? Why he didn't go to this person? I think, I think fans, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

I think fans now just want him to sit with somebody that is going to ask, I'm not saying like straight hardball fucking knock it out the park. Yo, tell me how you found out if you think Whitney was abused. I'm just saying Bobby and it'll be like a curb episode, which is fine. But I think fans want to hear from Drake. Now, now I think the goalpost moves a lot. Oh, with him, it moves. every every hour. Now, I very much enjoyed the conversation with Siza and Kendrick, but I hold

Kendrick to the same thing. I want Kendrick to sit with somebody. Not that he has to, but yeah, that's Sizz of conversation was great and I get, that was GQ, right? Bizar. Bizarre. Harper, is it Harper, Harper, something like that. I thought it was a really cool conversation, um, between two incredible minds, but I also would love a Kendrick's, like I loved, like, I loved Nadeska sat with him. Who do you want to see Kendrick talk to? Rob Markman. Kendrick need to get up out.

You need to get up out just to like Kendrick sit right there. Let me talk to Kendrick. I think that would be incredible. Let me talk to Kendrick. I got some questions for Kendrick. I think that would be great. Yeah. I'm going to ask shit Rob ain't going to ask.

Because me and Kendrick, you know what I'm saying? It's just different coming from my face than Rob's face. First of all, I have told you before. Me and Kendrick are probably the same complexion. This is a little different if I ask him. Which... I want the world to know and appreciate you for this. I've told you off camera, if you,

if Drake wants to do an interview with you, that's like, I won't feel a way. I don't need to go. I don't need to be there. I don't need to produce anything. Like, go do that. And you have said, which I love you. Me by myself?

Yeah. Yeah. And you said, no, I would want, which is cool. I'm saying I was leaving us out of it. I want Drake to sit with you. I would want Kendrick to sit with you. I don't want to.

I also think people would be surprised. I think you would ask Drake real questions. I don't think it would be what the internet has painted you as where it would just be getting off Drake quote unquote talking points. I think you'd ask him real shit. And I think it'd be in a comfortable environment. And if he wouldn't want me there, I wouldn't feel no fucking way. Just bring me back some Tim Hortons and, you know, I don't know.

No, I don't think it's a thing of not wanting you there. I just, you know, I just laugh at certain shit that I read online sometimes. Like, because I've never, being honest with you, Roy, I've never thought about sitting and talking to Drake on camera. It's never once crossed my mind. Why is that? Because, I mean, our conversation and our exchanges are like that of me and any of my other homeboys where it's like I never thought about having my homeboy in front of a camera asking him the shit that we talk about. So I get Drake is who he is, but I don't look at it through that lens or look at. at it with that mindset. It's like we speak, we laugh about shit, we talk about shit. He's,

you know, trusting me with some of his music and some of, you know, personal shit he's going through. But I think it's that because he knows that I'm not thinking, I'm not thinking interview. I don't, if Drake never gives me, sits down on the camera, I wouldn't give a fuck. Oh, not, but I know that. I know that. Right, but people don't know that. So I'm saying it for people that don't know that. So I've never thought about, oh, damn, I hope he comes sitting. That's never once crossed my mind. So when you say, you have a real relationship. with him, that's why. They think you're doing it to leverage an interview, which I know. Which is fucking crazy. But that's cool. They can think that. But what I'm saying is, I don't,

if you, if me and you didn't have a podcast together and you putting out dope albums and it's that and third and you had gone through some shit, you my God, I wouldn't be thinking like, damn, I hope Rory one day wants to come and sit on camera and we could have this. That shit doesn't even cross my mind. With a real friendship. There's artists that I'm like, associated and cool, I got some shit I want to get off more and I want to get it off with you. Set up the cameras pause? Yeah. All right, cool.

But I'm not in my mind. That doesn't even, you know what I see people say, oh, he didn't, he got to get them all in. Why? Why? Like, I don't. Because truthfully, truthfully, the things that we talk about, I wouldn't even talk about on camera. I would never ask him that on camera. You get what I'm saying?

Because I just don't think that people are even worth their answer. Okay. You get what I mean? because it's like, okay, even if he says it, even if we get Drake, we get the, we get the, let's paint the scenario for him. We get the Drake interview. Gotcha. We ask every question that's online. Can we stay in Toronto for the week? I don't, wherever. Drake said, bring the fucking camera to, whatever. I wouldn't

give a fuck. No, let's do it in Toronto. Even if he's in New York, let's fly to Toronto. There's things that we've spoken about that I would never ask on camera. Of course, but I still think there's like basic shit that Bobby's not going to ask or it'll be pitched as like a sarcasm. She'll be like, she's like, who's this Kendrick guy? Okay, but she'll like ask that stuff. Even if she does that, right?

Even if she asks the hard-hitting questions. Even if she gets to like. Bobby asking them. I'm just saying, we had a pivot. She'd go from that sarcasm from humor shit to fucking Barbara Walters. We don't know. We don't know the new body. We don't know.

She got a little work done. We don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about that. What I'm saying is, it's certain shit that I would never ask. I just, would not ask. Like it's just, I'm just not, I'm not, it's, it's not, it's not that, it's not that

serious to me. I guess my point is the stuff that would be fine to ask, I think you would ask. And that's the stuff that people want to hear. The stuff that you know and you know only, just y'all conversations, I don't even think that's the stuff people would even want to hear. Even even in that, you know why it doesn't matter? Because even if he answers the question, you can ask whatever question, though, it's never going to be satisfied anyway. It's not going to satisfy any fucking body. No matter what he says, no matter what he does, no matter what album he puts out, people already having their mind that don't like Drake and that don't like. Cool.

It doesn't matter what he says. So when people get all worked up about him announcing who he's sitting down talking to, I'm just laughing because I'm like, no matter who he talks to, people are still going to feel away about it. So that's why I'm just like, yo, I don't even think like that. Like my thing is that I want great music and I want people to be happy in their lives and raise their families. I don't care if he sits down or she sits down with who, what. I don't care, bro. I really, that shit does not cross my mind at all.

I don't care about shit like that. What if Drake asked you to do Bobby's second episode in the event that he is invested into this new event? sure. Like me and Bobby sit down 101? You'd be the next guess. Like how she went to like Drake and then Mark Cuban, it'd be like Drake and then Mall. Oh, I would kick it with Bobby. Yeah. Why not? I probably would.

I wouldn't. I mean... Yeah, she seemed like it seems like a cool like a cool conversation. Like, you know what I mean? Like what's the pushback there? Like I don't really care that much. Yeah, like I'm like, okay, cool. Call me a culture vulture. I did I've definitely went on rants about Bobby. I just don't really care that much. You went on rants

about her? In the beginning, it was a little it was just a little weird I thought what was weird oh like she was a plant like where did she come from yeah yeah yeah it was more so that and like

where her two like the specific type of acts in the beginning that her team was focused on and then she branched out and then had to come back to hip hop because that the real reaction with that dry humor stuff came because she was coming

from outside of the culture when she would do it with you know whether it be Bobby Lee or Mark Cuban or other people, she couldn't lean on that because you weren't getting the same reaction. Either the comedian was carrying it or Mark Cuban was just answering like he wouldn't any interview. It just wasn't interesting the way it was when Drake is playing a Rack City bitch and she's

like, I don't know who this is. Or she's doing an awful bit. I forgot Shorty's name of I'm a musician, I'm a magician, which I don't even understand why y'all found that. That was such a bad stage bit. So yeah, I've definitely had some pushback, but would I do with Bobby He's interviewed? Yeah, I don't, like, I don't care that much. I just don't know when people get so worked up about these things. I just don't know who they be wanting people. Like, who do you?

Like, you can't sit and talk with everybody. Like, no artists can sit and talk with everybody. So when people get upset, oh, he's not talking about him. He's not talking. He sat and talked with one of his close friends Yadi. They had a conversation and they kicked it about shit. That was pre-beef, though. Yeah, okay.

So now post-beef, they want, who did? Who do they want? No, I think that's everyone's point that Drake was very much talking to everybody in the culture, pre-beef, and now that that happened, it's only been streamers

that are not of, not even just hip-hop, just not music, period. So it appears like you're avoiding any type of question that would be asked, which, by the way, I'm fine with at the moment,

because I think there's a time in place when you can address those things, and I think it should come with the album. If he wants to just, fucking kick it with streamers now and just make little pot-shot jokes every now and then. Cool. But at some point, I think he needs to sit down with somebody. I think he does, and I think he will.

And I'm fine now. I also don't feel, I also don't understand how people. At some point. I also, I'm with you on that as well. But I just don't understand how people don't see the side of it where somebody like Drake and what he, you know, is going currently dealing with and going through what he went through. and what he had to sit back and watch people support and amplify and I don't understand how people don't see how he's turned off and like I'm never fucking with them again I'll never kick it with them again I'll never go to that radio station again I'll never sit down yeah how do people not see that oh I see that thing is people are taking it oh it's this hip pop it's this rap is just entertainment cool but you're not the person standing there that has to watch people support a message about you that, again, is the most egregious, most disgusting thing

they could ever put on a man, especially a father. How do people not factor that in? Like, maybe he's never going to Hot 97 again. Maybe he's never... 15 years ago. I was just, I was just bringing in other hypotheticals. But I'm saying, why do people not, why do people feel like he should just get over it? Oh, I don't know. And just move on and just sit down with everybody and talk that. I don't think that. I just said just one interview. No, no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just closing the question. Like, why do people, people don't factor that? Because, because when you get somebody that is of that level of fame. Why do you answer a question? People are like, nah, he's lying. No, that's not how you feel. You know, he's lying. No, he's not, no, you suing the labels. You're a rat. You're a snitch. What the, what the fuck are we talking about it? And obviously, I'm not saying Kendrick hasn't done little Easter egg stuff like the Super Bowl promo or anything. But for the most part, he stays. quiet and off social media. Whereas Drake with the Iceman episodes, there's a bunch of things still regarding the beef, Instagram, he's talking about it a lot. He says stuff on stage certain times. He's wearing certain outfits that address it. That's where I think people want more from it.

It's like, all right, if you're going to keep constantly reminding us every day about this, plus all the lawsuit stuff that goes out every day, people want to hear from Drake. I don't think it's crazy for fans to want to hear from him when he also constantly in his own way brings it up as well. Whereas Kendrick, not to say he's quiet all the time, he finds different ways to go about it. Less energy over there because he's kind of to himself. Whereas Drake is forward-facing with it, even when he's talking to these streamers about gambling, he'll throw in low shots. No, the difference is Drake is the biggest artist in the world. And constantly addressing it.

Well, should he not? No, I think he should. I'm answering why people would want to hear from Drake. They're going to always want to hear from the biggest artist in the world. Sure, but specifically, that's why the rap radar interview was so hailed. Outside of Bda and Elliott doing a great job in that interview and asking every question we wanted to hear, there was a lot going on in Drake's life at that time, whether it be his kid, whether it be the meek mill shit, whether it be the pushy t shit. Like a lot was going on where we want to hear from the biggest artist in the world. And this is the first biggest artist in the world that we've had access to.

you can't name another artist at drake's level that we've ever had access to the way we have access to him no other a-lister of that magnitude has been on social media the same way same way he'd be outside like that's where things are a bit different like even shit with madonna who was kind of outside like that she was still like you still question you still didn't know what was going on like you didn't know she was dating hasten jack if she had instagram maybe you would be like you have questions yeah why are you walking out with Haitian Jack, why are you on live with Haitian Jack right now? Things would be different, but yeah, he's forward-facing. He's the most forward-facing star we've ever had in music.

I asked the question to you. So people, once they get a taste of that, now you've got to live in this world. No, you don't. I'm saying from a fan perspective. Yeah, but fans got to understand that the artist is not, doesn't have to move when you say move and do what you say do and sit-law and who you say sit-well. Of course. That's all.

Yeah, no, of course. I mean, listen, the fact that Jussie's even given us more. answers. Then Drake is probably why we're on this stuff. Jesse. Did you watch the doc? No. I would never watch a Jesse Smulele. Jesse Simulet. I would never watch his doctor. Why would you not watch? He's in it. Because I told you years ago, man, the fucking sandwich made it home. Like cut this shit. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining, bro. Like, let's just come downstairs so we can fight. Like, what, what you talking about? Like, no, I don't want to watch this shit. I don't want to watch it.

Like, I don't, I'm not one of these people that I don't want to watch this shit. I don't want to see another OJ Simpson documentary. I don't want to see another Jesse Smith. We don't need another one, but I'd always watch it. I don't want to see none of that shit. I don't care about none of this shit. Jesse is a liar. The fucking, the, the sub made it home after he got hung.

The noose, the noose made it. The noose made it with a bottle of bleach. Like, what do we talk? How the fuck did the meatball sub make it back to the condo? What the fuck do we know? Nothing happened, bro. No, nothing happened to you. All right, so I watched it.

Of course you did. You're the type of person, you're going to see a rabbit hole, and you're going to go get your rabbit ears and jump in it. 100%. Yeah, yeah, you're that guy. If Elmer Fudd is with a gun right there, I'm jumping right in that with the ears on. Yeah, I'm not watching it. But tell me about it.

What did Jesse say? He's standing on it? He's in toes Jesse? The first half of it is everything you've seen before. There's been a million Jesse docs. You guys can skip the whole. first half of the documentary. It's nothing new whatsoever except you're speaking to the actual cops that even did a few interviews before. Now, what I took away from this doc, it was kind of me looking

in the mirror. As a conspiracy theorist, we are so easily turned over by absolute nonsense when we want everything to be a conspiracy. So the second half of this doc has like three journalists that aren't even like, we don't even know the fuck they are. They're just some random people. Yeah. That like went and got some footage and started questioning it. And I saw the timeline turn on Friday of like, damn, maybe Jesse was telling the truth. So when I go.

That's what these documentaries are. And that's what they intend to do with these documentaries. And as conspiracy theories were so easily turned. Two people that we have no idea who the fuck they are started saying, you know, 10 seconds is missing here. Then they found a clip of two guys. guys that match the clothing description walking past Jussie's building and they're like, those are two white men.

And then they pass the fucking iPad around to everybody. That's white man. That's white man. I watched the clip. That's two fucking black guys. Everyone was like, nah, this shit is different now. I said, you know, we are so easily swayed when we want something to be a conspiracy. Yeah.

100%. They found footage of the two brothers. Just say. like you don't know what black people look like. It's stupid, that's why I can't watch that. They don't look like white men. That's why I can't watch that.

And was like, that's a white man. No, it's not. No. That's two black guys. Listen, man, we, we know. And the brothers like, you know, that's right there. Yo, they followed,

they followed all the cameras, the Uber share to the cab, everything the brothers, all the way with ring cameras back to their exact fucking address. This is, this is a non-story. He fucking lied. Like,

trying to make this. this now into, and granted, I think the Chicago police have lied for a century. They're just not lying here. Yeah. Like, this is ridiculous of how they tried to shift this to here's some new information. Those is a money grab. And you found three halfway YouTube journalists, no disrespect, to try to make a new story off some footage that is bullshit. What's funny is their big, their big get was Jesse was like, well, there was two witnesses that no one ever brought up that was in court. There was this black kid that says he saw two white men.

Later on the dock, they passed the iPad to him with the footage that everyone keeps saying, these are white men. He's the only one that went, oh, no, that's two black guys. And there you have it. Your star witness went, nah, that's too black guys. Yeah, and this is why I can't watch that shit.

Like, come on. And then there was another witness in the building said she saw, a white man outside the building, but that all was weird to me too because he got allegedly jumped, like blocks. Wait, it wasn't even in front of his building like that. Yeah. He made it look.

Like, this is just not like a, this is not a thing. Why are people so? But it made me as somebody, like I had to look at my own kind. Like, though, what do we do? Like, we get, jet fuel can, like, it can bend beams. It can't melt them, but it can bend them. Yeah. We, and even though I think that one is true, not everything is a good spirit.

dog. Like no one was conspiring against. That's why I'm not watching it. Because after you go back to the hour and a half evidence before that, let's just get to the facts. Two white guys on the coldest day in Chicago history were walking around a wealthy neighborhood with a noose

and bleach that also are fans of empire. Yeah. And happen to run across Jesse Smolett at Subway at 20. What are the odds? You got a better chance of bumping into Michael Jordan on a cold night in Chicago than Jesse Smuley. Are you fucking kidding me? No, man, that shit.

I can't watch it like that. You know what I watched? I watched the Cowboys documentary. Oh, that's on my cue. That's what I watched. I watched that. Good documentary. Some co-heads that admit it.

I mean, there's been some, you know, cowboy documentaries. This is not the first one, obviously. But this was a good one. It's good to see, you know, them have Dion in a documentary being where Coach Prime is at in his life now. But it was a really good documentary. You should definitely check it out. Definitely. I didn't realize that it's been 30 years since the Cowboys are,

since they won the Super Bowl. But yeah, man, it was good seeing those old highlights and those games and, you know, like reliving those moments like, oh, shit and hearing the back stories from I was, Emmett Smith and Dionne Sanders and Michael Irvin. And even Jerry Jones. Like, I kind of heard stories about Jerry Jones over the years, but seeing them in a documentary. What stories are? Well, him just being a two...

That's a conspiracy. No, he addressed that as well. No, he was there and he was just checking it out. He didn't know what was going on, Roy. He was just at school that day. He saw a group of people. He was doing. Who all there?

Yeah, who all there? And they just caught him in the background. That's all that was. But no, him, you know, the way he purchased the team and him just really wanting to be hands-on with everything. And then, you know, kind of him and Coach Johnson kind of like, you know, having it, their spat, but them also being such close friends and winning a national title at Arkansas in college together. It was just good to see that dynamic of Jerry Jones, who just was a guy who, you know, believed in this team that he bought and wanted them to be great

and was willing to do any and everything, whether it meant doing the laundry for the team, whether it meant, you know, whatever it was, he just wanted to be a part of the organization. Now, he didn't just want to own the team and just, you know, being as a lot of. office looking down on everybody like he wanted to really be in the mix and you know you know and be in the players faces and let the players know that he was there for them um the whole thing i forgot about when they was trying to call troyderman a racist i forgot about that whole thing in the 90s um and then troy being there front row when michael irvin had to go to court for his shit like you know like it was just it was just cool to see those gentlemen where they had in their lives now

kind of relived that and talk about those moments in those days. But it was a good documentary. You definitely should watch it. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but you cannot be, you cannot grow up in the 90s watching football and not, you know, just have respect for what they did. Is it safe to say, though, that they're not America's team? Cran, the late 80s and the 90s, they had legendary run. But does that make you America's team?

I mean, they want to get to the technicality. The technicalities is there's a dynasty called the Patriots. Well, yes. I think that checks every box of the American's team. Yes. But I liked with Coach Caller from the Steelers. He was like, if anything, Pittsburgh is the fucking America's team. I'm not mad at that.

Blue Collar, Steel Mill Country, like, a Still Mill State. Like, you know, we, like, so when he said that, I was like, got a point there. Like, if you're going to name a team of America team. It's like actually, they campaign in Pennsylvania. You get what I'm saying? That's America. I understand that. But, you know, just the Cowboys being one of the most recognizable French.

recognizable logos in the world being worth I think probably eight nine 10 billion now it's outside of the Yankees is probably number two but I don't know because shit the lake is just so 10 so what do you think the cowboys would sell for yeah oh wait damaris is calling us yeah let's see what she's doing man she on vacation you know that time on vacation hey conspiracy theorists check it out baby DB been calling out, missing work, all kinds of shit. We're getting close. The predictions might be coming true.

Yo, listen, I'm going to let you know. Oh, no, yeah, yeah. She realized she don't got to work no more? Man, listen, man. We got to call it and check. She found herself a rich man. Let's check in on Baby D right now. See what the hell going on, man.

Don't try to celebrate. I'm sure she's between that, like, dinner and later night activity. Whatever she's between, she better answer this goddamn phone. I know that. No, she's calling. Special guests in the Zoom Zoom room live from who the fuck knows baby D and the D is for maybe D. D.R. D. Is that D R? Undisclosed location.

I'm in Kurosau. Kurosow. I know what they do out there. A lot of topless beaches out there. A lot of new beaches. You just made that up. In Kurosow? There's a lot of new beaches in Kurosow. Is that like a thing out there? Yeah. Where is Kurosow? Like in the world. It's over by Aruba and Bonaire as part of the ABC Islands. Oh, okay. So the LGBT, they got their whole shit now. Yo, listen, they got islands. That's crazy. They got islands. They got all kind of. They got

clothing brands. You put it right up there and I left it alone. I left it alone. Yeah. Baby, how are you feeling? I'm okay. I'm in a little bit of pain, but I'm okay. We just wanted to check in on you, you know what I'm saying? See how you was feeling. See how you was doing. Make sure you're getting, you know, your tan on. You got the right oils. Because you know, as melancheted people, we got to have the right oils when we're sitting at sun now. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm good. I'm getting 10. I'm outside. Actually, I'm not outside. I've been in this Airbnb this entire time, but. But that's outside. Yeah. Somebody outside. Yeah. There you go. Look at the game.

Is that the front nine? The little live golf in the background? Yeah, you're not going to go play no, you're not going to go play no live golf. You got to play live golf. You got to play live golf. Yeah. So what's your vacation swag like? What do you usually do besides fall in the pool? What? That's why I tell you shit. You talk too much. Oh, no, we're going to show the video, too. Yeah, we got to post that clip. Actually, that's going to be the thumbnail. Is that going to make one of your vlogs?

I was thinking about it. It's embarrassing, though. Baby, when the last time your leg went, like, that far behind you and, like, because that looked like it hurt. That looked like you could be out for about three weeks. Jason Tater might have felt just like that one time. You could broke your whole jaw on that. We could actually tease it here, and then you could put it on your vlog.

So, like, everyone will rush to see you bust your ass on your vlog. You don't see my bruise? Look at my bruise. God damn. Oh, yeah, no, that's bad. That's bad. Holy shit. All right, for those,

Demaris was trying to, like, be sexy by setting the camera up and walk on the side of the, was that the invisible pool? Never, never ending pool. Infinity pool. Trying to walk in the infinity pool and completely slipped.

Invisible pool. No, it's right there, we can see the pool. Not with the water called invisible. It's infinity. No, it gives the Lord that it's just never, never ending. Well, Demaris is still falling.

Yes. It was the infinity fall. She was walking on the side and straight bust her ass trying to look sexy for the vlog. But that was the funniest video. Like, I air dropped that to my computer, too. Like, that needs to be on multiple clouds. Thank you so much. When you're coming back to work?

To work? Yeah. That niggas ain't get my two weeks in the mail? Nah, but I mean, let me know. Like, you know what I'm saying? In the mail. Let me look out for it. Where you mailed it from?

Yeah, where'd you mail it from and where'd you mail it, too? from here middle of the ocean so it'll get you on a little bit shit now I'm gonna be in the North Sea right now yeah that take more days it'll take a little more day we might get that Thursday though

don't trip it's all good yeah I'll be here Thursday I'll be the work Thursday Any women of the night out there Nah but damn ID in clubs here That's not good No it ain't it ain't good Because I went to go pay for some girl to get in

And then we realized they ain't ID her And I looked at her And he looked at her and we said y'all went to pay for a girl to get in yeah like she was going to get in or whatever and we were going to pay for her to get in but then we realized that they didn't ID her this was some random girl that y'all just saw yeah she was pretty but she looked young but she looked too young to be in a club I was like I'm which are like 18 19 young or like 14 15 young she was like come my bro. No, she looked like she was like 20. She looked like she could be 23. She could be.

Oh, I thought when you say young. She could not be. And we weren't going to find that out on our own. So now I'm cool. Is the club age even 21 out there? I feel like it's 18. I don't know. I think it's like 18. That's what I wasn't. We weren't thinking that. You had something else in your mind. Be careful. You don't want to come back with a RICO. Get you for trafficking right now. You don't cross all kind of Mariz Island. Yeah. Yeah, that's how. See, that's how. You're the Mariz Island. Yo, yo, you're a doc dropping, yo, well you're talking.

Yo, brother, right, man. All right, yo, listen. Don't name me is your Gis Lane. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. That's not me. That girl name is Gillane, man, Gillian ain't no not Rory Max. Whatever her name is,

just make sure you don't do nothing on that island that we can't do here in America, all rules still apply. Just because you're abroad, don't try to mix in with the locals and do local shit. We didn't have it.

Did you fly right to Aruba? He tried to. When they paid in his house? He tried to. They took the gas out of his jet. They siphon the shit out. Yeah, it is. Like, nah, fam, you ain't taking off.

Well, all right, baby. What are you talking about today? What are you going to talk about without me? That's crazy. Oh, man. I got all kind of questions for Rory today, man. Oh, real? Yeah, I just want to just want to talk to Rory today.

I don't even care about what's going on in the culture. I didn't even do anything this weekend. No, no, not, not, not like no interrogation questions. I just want to know, like. But Josh Giggling over there. Like, I missed a pre-production meeting. Oh, no, no, no, no. I didn't not like that.

Just kicking it. Okay. We had to check in on Baby Dito, make sure you was good out there. Yeah. Cool. Thanks for, thanks for calling. It's technically our 400th episode. Which technically is not.

It's not. With all the Patreon episodes and we well over 400. But our additional episode, we don't put a number two. Our 400th regular episode. Our 400th regular episode, which is important, right? I guess. Is it important? I mean, yeah, I guess it is.

It's like important to YG. It's important if you do 400 of anything. I mean, we try to eat 400. hundred mozzarella sticks, that was very important. That's why she's still in pain. That's why you still got gas now. What's the plan for the rest of the trip? You guys do your ATVs yet?

No, we might jet ski. We might sleep. We really out. We don't know. We old, we don't know. We old. We don't. This nigga just turned 30.

What are you talking about? 31. I'm 30 plus. That don't even, but you're not even a full 31 yet, though. I'm old. Y'all see I got this robe on. It's like 12 o'clock. No, no. Robe ain't old. Robe is just, that's vacation. I don't care how old you are. That ain't got nothing to do with being old.

Vacation, a robe is a must when you're on vacation. That's pretty big Airbnb. I'm kind of tired to talk to y'all niggas for a row. I'm on vacation. This feels too much like work. I love y'all. Happy 400. This was amazing. 400. 400. 400. Bye. Safe travels.

Get some rest. Okay. Roy, next time I text you at 11 o'clock p.m. don't fake sleep, bro. I hate them. Like, if you getting ass, just say that. Like, don't fake sleep at 11 o'clock. Well, first of all, that's nasty.

Like, wow, I was knocked up. That's nasty because I was in bed with Amara. So you're gross. But, yes, I was asleep with that. Just because you try to get underage girls in the club at the same time doesn't mean I was awake. Do me like the niggis from Brooklyn Road. All right.

I'm a holl at you. Bye. Bye. Safe. Bye. I see her energy is a little even different too vacation nonchalant they don't really want to talk

no I'm with you on your theory I think she's about to retire no it's over hey hey look hey who who be breaking the doubt y'all might be right you might have called that one right she might be out of here well you just found out last week that she had a man yeah so I mean

you know how I go from my understanding he's pretty financially stable yeah oh god I would love for a girl to retire me oh man I would love to just zoom in with y'all from Curisle Curisal Xoumah Zuma from

Kutasel And like Yo let me check with my lady I'll be the house husband Yeah Let me check with her

to see if it's okay If she's all right Let me see what's on her schedule See if she got planned for us I may need to make her dinner Oh yeah

Absolutely And make her shoes That's crazy though shit That was like a whole Different Demaris aura I feel like Vacation Vacation

Excuse me Nah that was the vacation Where I think I could be on Permanent Vacation Yeah I like this life

I could do this Soft life I could do this with that said do we have voice mails Josh you've got mail these are brought to you by boost let's see what everyone has to say this week job and only young yo so i got this girl that i work with right and don't do it it was these two girls that i work with and me we were just talking about just you know people locally that we know whatever whatever long story short this one girl my name's cast she shows me this video of this one girl it's a a a second

video. It's this girl getting fucked. You know what I mean? On her phone. And they were talking about how this girl, she's, she's trash. She's no good. Whatever, whatever, whatever. And I said, Cass, why do you have that in your phone? Like, why are you holding on to it? Like, what do you have to do with this? And she just says, oh, I just have this for blackmail just in case this girl wants to talk shit. Or just in case me and this girl ever have a problem. And dog, I thought that was the weirdest shit ever. Because I've never heard of anybody doing any shit like that in my life. Like that is wild.

Just in case you have sex blackmail on your phone of this girl, just in case she ever fucks with you. Let me know, especially Baby Dee. Let me know. Is this a normal thing that girls be doing out here? Well, Baby Dee is making her own sex blackmail video in Curacao right now. Yes. She's making a three-part.

documentary and Curacao. With the same producers of the Jesse. Same ones. Same ones. I think anything with people having sex is way over the line. Like I think the revenge porn thing is corny. I think all that, those are private intimate moments. It's actually a crime now, right?

Yeah, definitely is a crime. I've always found that like very, that stuff needs to say sacred. Those are intimate moments. There is something when I was a less becoming person that I have held in my phone as blackmail at the time. I don't care anymore. There was somebody that, I mean, beef is a two-way street, Paul's.

I didn't feel like I was beefing with this person. And for all you read it and YouTube people, it's not anything what you think in the podcast world, I promise. You don't need to do the science. There was somebody that was a complete weirdo on the internet. I have a video of him fighting, somebody that pretends to be a tough guy. Like that's his whole image is I'm tough.

Yeah. I'm that guy. I'll beat anybody up, this and that. I have a video of him fighting. And it does, it does not appear that he knows how to fight at all. Okay. And I've had that in my phone for about a decade.

It's just been sitting there. Just in the cloud. Somebody that's just been talking about me for long. Like, but it's there. Like it exists. Yeah. And I, I wouldn't do anything with it now.

I'm not that person. I honestly do not care if I came across. that person, we're not going to ever be friends or speak, but it's, it's not on site. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Fucking 35 years old with a daughter. But there was times when I was like, I had one day crossed the edge. Just say one thing on Twitter.

Mm-hmm. And you letting it fly. Yeah, but that's not. Don't do this tough guy shit when I have a full minute video of you clearly, dog. It looked like, and I don't want to shit on Meek, but remember when everyone killed Meek when he was just hitting the bag? It was worse than that. Yeah.

I was like, I thought you was the biggest thug in New York. Yeah. Yeah, nah, I don't know if I have any videos like that. And losing a fight to somebody that's not a tough guy. Right. Somebody that's just a cool who's actually smoking shit currently right now. Mm-hmm. And you, Peter know what I'm talking about.

And you losing a fight to somebody that is just a cool guy that don't be mind of his business. Yeah. Don't act like a tough guy. Just be chilling. Yeah. Soft-spoken, respectful. Those are the ones, though. The mild man.

No, he couldn't fight either. But how you. I thought you might seem like he was kicking ass or something like that. He was, but he couldn't fight either. Oh, okay, okay, got you. It looked like fucking two-hs fighting. Okay, got it. Sorry, my bad.

That's not okay to say anymore? No, we can't let that fly? All right, all right, my bad. No, it was just a hilarious video, and I kept that in my phone. I may have even put Michael Jackson beat it music behind. Oh, you had fun with it. Oh, you started editing in the video. Okay, got you.

All right. So, all right, I get the blackmail thing. I think anything sexually related, that's crazy. That's fucked up because that's an intimate thing. You're trying to blackmail someone with intimate moments. How that got on your phone, like, that's weird and get rid of it. But no, I feel like somebody that fought in public and somebody just happened to send me that video. I think I could hold that.

Yeah, but like you said now. Oh, no, I wouldn't. Yeah, like, I don't know. I'm just about something. Yeah, no, I get it. I get what you saying. Yeah, no, that's putting out or holding somebody's sex. tape. And I ran into that person and realized, oh, you're not who you say you are more than once.

So at this point. But that's different from a sex tape, though. That's way, no, way different. Yeah, that's totally different. I'm not comparing it to. I was just trying to bring up my experience of a blackmail video that I happen to have. Yeah, I don't, I don't have no blackmail. And I thank God, because I don't want people to send me, like, sexual blackmail videos, but that's like a interesting strategy. Is that what women are doing in the streets? Like, yo, you got beef with this. Well, that's what he's, that's what he's asking. I don't know. I don't know if women to do. I know women can be very caddy and very, you know, sure. They can play those games, but that's a, I mean, with the T app now, right?

Is that like, I don't know, that, that can be something for the T app. Yeah, I just, if you're doing it, I mean, if you want to send your dick and all that to somebody, cool, but sending somebody else to blackmail them is like a whole other. That's a whole other level weird. Like, how, but they got to be in like their early 20s or something. Or they're older on Facebook Because I've noticed that about old people that are on Facebook They're very petty and blackmailie No, that's just women sometimes

It could be very petty But also then just showing that to somebody at work That's wild There was somebody that we both know In the music industry that used to do that That would be very odd. Not send, he would show himself To women at like industry dinners Like fucking

I always found that really strange He doesn't have a documentary out on him yet I could happen That sounds like my name I don't want to make it seem like I was like Co-signing anything

I like I just Everyone knew that that was like his go-to Like maybe it worked one That being your go-to is fucking wild And you know who it is He's gonna show you his sex tape What? Yeah

The amount of women That have told me I'm like yeah no Everyone says he does that Like but not like Like not sends it to them which both are wrong but like would just be out

and he'd be doing all on like some besty friends type thing like y'all was dogging this chick out last night and show it to a girl he works with like at a label and be like what? I have a theory. Do not show me that.

I have a theory about guys who do that. Why? What's your theory? I think they're gay. Okay. Yeah. You want to prove to you're a co-worker that?

No, you want to prove to women that you sleep with women. Proving of somebody who you get bitches Like, proven to women that you get bitches is funny. I'm just saying. I have a, it's just a theory. It's not no conspiracy theory. It's just a theory that men that do shit like that.

I've always looked at them like, why are you looking for that validation? Like, what? You feel like they're behind your back. They might feel like you like men. So you gotta prove that. Nah, I'll be fucking women. I'll sleep with women. Okay, now that you say that, I had theories about that guy.

Yeah. And I know when I tell you all, like, I see your will's turn to just keep thinking. Keep thinking. You're going to see the moment in your in your mind. And when I tell you who it is. It's the Leo moment. Like he is gay. He's gay. It's going to happen. When I tell you who it is off, Mike, you're going to say it now. You're going to ask. We can blow the name out. Say now. 100% 100% homosexuality absolutely

I think I met him through you No no no we're not doing that No you did not No you did not No you did not No you did not No you did not No I promise you did not

You know who you met him through And it was not No, but who brought him in the circle He did Not me Oh I thought you did No fuck no No I have no issues with him

Outside of doing that To well like I think that was weird I think that was weird I'm saying you definitely didn't need him to me We're not friends where I'd be like Hey bro don't do that We're not friends like that that but he just- I get it. No, you didn't meet him through me. No. Oh, I thought you would have brought him

around. No, definitely not. Absolutely not. Nope. But once you started saying that, I'm like, yeah, actually always thought he was gay. 100%. I'm telling you, it's there. It's little remnants there. Um, but yes, to your co-worker, she's bugging and definitely no tell her none of your secrets because she's going to probably be wearing a Y or voice record. You telling her some shit by the fucking water cooler at work. So be careful with her because she got that, she got that conniving you know, black male energy, black male spirit inside her. So I can't trust nobody like that. I guess I just don't understand with like blackmail to that level.

Doesn't black male really work because of like public perception? Like I understand like rappers because of how weird the rap genre has always been in that regard of you have to be on your toes. You never know who. Revealing certain things is part of that. What is she going to? show it to, she's going to post it on Facebook before he gets flagged and three people are going to see it? Like, what's the blackmail here? You know, blackmail her for money? Like, what, it was somebody that she was sleeping with that she wasn't supposed to be sleeping with?

It could be that same situation. But, all right, what's your end game? I guess with blackmail, I don't fully understand it unless you have a proper end goal. What is, even with, even with, even with, even with, even with whores that do the NDA thing, like, I, What am I going to sue you for? You don't have anything. No, but who said sue? But what are we exposing to four people in the world that no one knows about? In her circle, in her community at work, that may be somebody she wasn't supposed to be sleeping with. So she could lose her job or something?

Lose her job. It could be, you know, it could be somebody's husband. Okay, but what are you then exploiting this person for? A home record. You're not knee deep in the drug. She's a home record. All right. So, you know, I'm going to go to HR with this video. You fucking, let's just use the coworker thing. You fucking a coworker. I show you, I got the evidence here.

What, what do you, do I get 30% of your paycheck? Like, what are we doing here? No, but it's not, it's, they just, it's just to out the person and to, you know, expose them. That's all. But the point of blackmail is to hold something over their head so they do something else. Well, no. That's the point of blackmail, no? Yes, but I think that in her, in this case.

Do this or I'll expose this. Yes, that's typically how it goes. But I think in this case, it's, she may. have something on this person as well. So it's like, I got dirt on you too. Like, so if you expose my dirt, I'm exposed your dirt. That's what this feels like. Okay. It feels like, I see that. If she exposed what I did or what I be doing, then we just, then I got something on her too. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I guess I understand the women like keep it cute blackmail. Like, bitch, keep it cute because I know things. Yeah, yeah. But then even, I don't know, with the internet,

when everyone with 100 followers puts their whole life story or someone else's and it catches traction and goes viral for a day. Nothing changes in your life except for everything around you failing. Yeah. The timeline moves on. You benefited nothing from this. Yeah, but that's why I said. You now have to live in this world while the rest of us

went to the next messy timeline thing. It's just petty shit, that's all. Yeah, I mean, I would tell that girl just delete it. There's nothing good going to come from it. Yeah. Something you never know. Sometimes you got to when they get petty, we get petty er. You know? So that's what it feels like.

It feels like that girl know the other the girl in the video knows something about her and she's just holding that like all right if she ever try to expose my shit I got my I got my got how do you determine that line though Because I'm not that type of person clearly because there's plenty of shit I could have fucking told the world about and never did it never would Right But like when do you cross that line like how do you how do you keep it cute with an enemy publicly like dog let's all relax it I mean this could go Yeah, but I think it depends on, again, if she exposes her for something that only she knows and she's like, yo, you know what I mean, hold that down. You know what I mean?

I'll never let that cat out the bag because, you know, I got some shit on you too. So it's just that. She feels like if that ever gets exposed, then she got something to get her lick back. I think that's, it feels like that. It's not a blackmail. That's why she's trying to gain financially, like, in this situation. It's just like, I got some shit. I can't expose her because she got some shit.

that she could expose me as well. That's where you brought up handicaps before in podcasting. And I'm not saying podcasting per se, but just in life, like that's where I have a handicap. I would just feel so nasty. Like I'd feel like an actual female. Oh yeah.

Like I just, I'm never going to, I don't care how much like you say that's true, false, in between, whatever the fuck you say. I'm just, I'm a sit, yo,

did you know? Yeah. That's what she's supposed to do on a podcast. You ain't know that? That's what they want from you. I'd feel so fucking weird. Like tweeting like, did you know? Yeah.

That's what they want. They want that. They want that gossipy, nasty. I just couldn't. Vindictive. I'm talking like real shit. Not like funny banter back and forth. Shit.

I'm like real shit that I could say. Oh, absolutely. I'd feel so weird. It's like even if somebody did something super foul publicly. I still wouldn't. I'm at a handicap, bro. I'm going to keep saying I'm a handicap in this industry, bro. Because it's some shit that.

that I would never ever fucking say a repeat. But I know if I was that type of person. And then for what? For the fans to listen for one day? Yeah. Talk about it on a Twitter space. Go viral. And then move on the next day to the next day.

No, I don't do that because you know how it goes. You go viral for some shit you said. Then you get an interview on another platform talking about the viral moment. And then you'll get a brand deal based on the virality. I mean, no, Roe Spark. Somebody. Somebody will come in and throw your bag just for it. Edit that out.

somebody somebody a come in and throw you a bag just for going viral and being nasty and exposing people you know that i don't know i don't know that's the case you're crazy no i think there's there's there's blot like the uh the way they say legacy media i would say legacy gossip uh platforms and no disrespect like shade room jason lee hollywood and like i think they would say their gossip no oh yeah for sure yeah like they of course get that but you're just saying something about somebody you're not getting a brand deal But Jason Lee gets a pass because he can do that because he's gay. No, Jason. Yeah, right?

And he's a senator. Yeah, but he could do that. Also, Jason Lee also built a legitimate fucking business. Whether it be on gossip, that's everyone else's. No, he got, Jason Lee. Jason Lee didn't just be like, hey, did you hear about this? No, no, no. That's a businessman that created a whole.

Shade Room. I disagree with a lot of shit they've done. That's a legitimate fucking bit. It's nasty, but it's not nasty. No, no, no. It's not nasty coming from Jason Lee. It's expected. Fair.

It's expected. It's not nasty. It's expected. But then again, you have people like, if you don't like the gossip world. Nasty expectations. That's what it is. All right,

but TMZ and Hollywood Unlock, when they say something, I believe them. So as much as they start, they may start out as gossip. They have made it to a place where I look at TMZ. If somebody's dead and CNN post it,

I'm like, I don't know. If TMZ posts it, they're fucking dead. Yeah. Gossipage. But that's not gossip, though. Somebody being dead as gossip.

If Jason Lee says something about Rihanna, I know that shit is 1,000% true. It depends on what it is. Jason, of course, has had his gossip moments. But when he say something, he's usually right. One thing I will say, he's not much of a lying. I'm not going to put a liar on him. Because a lot of shit he talks about. There's a lot of lying gossip pages.

I don't know if Jason is the one that be lying. Yeah, because I've seen him talk about shit. I'm like, he ain't lying because I know that. I'd be like, yo, he ain't lying because I'd been to do that years ago. Like, I knew that person was doing. So, you know what I mean? But I sit back. Yeah, let Jason Lee get his shit off.

But not me. I can't do that. No. Do we have another voicemail? What's up? Rory, Maugh, DeMarris. I have a question for y'all. Would y'all rather have your own radio station on Grant Def Otto.

Be playable characters in the next. death jam game or make an audio cameo in a spider-man movie if these things could happen what would y'all what would you all what would the reason be that's a really really cool question i couldn't hear the last part what do you say audio cameo in a spider-man movie an audio cameo yeah as far as like yeah we were speaking i don't know if spider-man was sweeping through a cab like spider-man listening to our podcast? Yeah, or like, you know, like sometimes he'll crash into a cab window and just be like and then like, and the podcast is planned? Yeah, maybe something like that. Or versus what? A grand theft auto radio station or being an actual character in a like Def Jam vendetta fighting video game.

I'm taking the Spider-Man one out right away. I'm only dealing with option A and B at this. The Spider-Man one would be the obvious go-to. You think so? Absolutely. I don't think there's like staying value in that because of those action movies how quick everything goes. I don't know if that audio cameo would resonate. You got the Spider-Man series. Fucked up. No, I'm aware of the audience. But like, would it have value? Like, are people going to be like, all right, let's go listen to that? The GTA radio is interesting. So the GTA radio one would be my immediate yes, no matter what thing in the earlier GTA days because shit, music broke off that. Like, you would sit there. I could recite some of those commercials word for word when you would just be out there trying to

Simple question. Simple question. But now when people stream, people do other things with GTA, they're also talking to other people. Is the GTA radio have the same effect that it used to? Because now everyone's doing other things while they're playing GTA. Fuck all that. Which one can we monetize? I mean, all three, the least one I would say would be the Spider-Man one.

That would be a DJ Khalid dollar fee. So I would go with GTA radio. That's... So many people play that game and actually, like, you know what I'm on that game? I mean, it's, who would even know what a Def Jam, like Vendetta game would do? It'd be cool to be a video game. No, that's ego. I was just about to say it's ego.

You're not going to get any money. Who knows if it'll work? To me, the obvious answer is GTA. But does that still sit with people the way it? Because I played the last GTA, but I mean, they should. They'd be on a call a duty shit with a bunch of people playing. They talking to each other. Like, is the radio station still the thing?

The way it was when I was a kid. Well, for the simple fact that I just think that more people buy GTA and play GTA than I'm going to go watch a Spider-Man movie. They're probably, well, no, probably not neck and neck. No, GTA. GTA is a whole different fucking GTA video game. Dude, I remember GTA two. This was back when my cousin was throwing ferrets, Bonnie and Clyde on top of me.

He had G. I remember GTA2. It was like an aerial view. GTA3 is when like everything changed. It's like a real video game. I remember that aerial V1. It's so crazy to watch those types of things. Yeah, I would say GTA, radio station on GTA.

Yeah. Hey, GTA, I mean, I know it's pretty much done, but we have a whole Dropbox of RAM radio with funny ads if you. If you need a radio station, definitely. They can update video games in real time now. Absolutely. Just throw us in the mix. Now, the Spider-Man one is just cool as fuck.

That's just like... GTA is way cooler to me, the Spaniard. Spider-Man. Nah, hell no. And which Spider-Man? Who's Spider-Man? That's like, which Spider-Man we talked about? Is Zendaya in it?

I... Oh, it's in the cartoon one? Nah. The cartoon one? I'm cool. Man, put me in G-T-A, though. You're a radio station in the TV. If you don't bring Toby back, I don't know, I don't want to...

No, it got to be Zendaya, and she's, like, rushing to get dressed, and, like, the pod is playing, like, in her crib or something like that, and Spider-Man, as I was out of window, like, hurry up, we late. Like, he gives her room. ride to the banquet. He swings through the city. Like, you know what I'm saying? And they don't listen to Frank Sinatra.

They listen to you and I's dumbass. Okay, no, at that point, if they're driving to the Met Gala. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That would get us like some real Ryan Seacrest type press at that point. Like, what were they listening to? Oh, it shows how edgy and in the culture they are.

Yeah. All right. I wouldn't be bad at that. And it's like us talking about like Spider-Man being seen in Manhattan last night. But if Spider-Man crashes into like a woman, Uber driver and she just happens to be listening to, hey, do we have voicemails? Yeah. I'm like, I'm cool.

Like, I don't think it's going to resonate with the fans the way GTA. Yeah, no, give me GTA radio before that. Absolutely. But, I mean, that goes back to when I asked, you know, was that Patreon today or last episode of who you want to fight? I still want to be like in a video game. I think that'd be cool. No, that's cool.

All the three of these scenarios are cool, but. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And being in a video game is, you know, that's, I think that's taking you directly back to your childhood. whoever you never thought that you would be in the actual video game. But what if one of like the new GTA missions, because it's in Vice City's new one, right?

It's Miami. I mean, the world has changed. Criminals are going on podcasts. Like what if we were like mission? They have a podcast. Like what if we were a mission where like Vladimir, whatever the fuck they make the guy's name.

He has to go on a podcast from one of the missions and like talk about his crimes to get money. In a video game? Like, let's say he snitched or something. I would never pay that me again. That's a terrible fucking. No, but you know the missions like. And GTA? Oh yeah.

And you gotta get money. And like part of that is like he goes on a podcast. And like we're in GTA? Yeah, no, it's this podcast in GTA. Okay. Like he does the weird walk into our studio. I'm not mad at that. Parks are stolen car outside.

I'm not mad at that. That just stays there. Got you. Yeah, I'm not mad. Like you know how the, like the rays come up like when he gets to the mission? Like we're right here is the mission. Got you. Yeah, I'm not mad.

And then he sits there. That would be pretty cool. And it's like you come in like, hey, we're one of our family. Like, just a GTA, whatever character they pick. Oh, man. Before we leave, we do got a highlight. There's some new music where new music came out. We spoke about it a little bit.

Supreme Clientail, too. Yes. Shout out the Ghostface. Great project, great album, man. It's just dope to see, you know, all the older guys. They say hip hop is a young man sport, but it seems like all the older acts are putting out better albums, better music. So shout out to Go's face.

Chance the rapper. Well, yeah, man. That's been out two weeks, right? It's been two weeks? Oh, no. Offset. Offset. Yes.

Offset album. Even though we've had it, but, you know. Yeah, I like, there's joints on there that I like. No, definitely. As far as his solo projects, this is definitely my favorite. But again, this is his best. This is his best solo. That's one of those that I know I'm just going to like certain records on those type of projects.

But most artists, I only like certain songs on that on their albums. I take those songs and I'll go back to them a little bit. But this is, for me, this is Offset's best solo project. But I have not stopped listening to that chance album. It's a good project. I'm going to have, give it four weeks. I'm going to start having some crazy hot takes. Yeah?

About that chance album. I've been playing the, it's one of those to me. I've been playing the Bryson Tiller, the Vices. You understand, it sounds good, man. I like the way he, I like the way he construct. I'm looking forward to the, uh, the solace, though. That's, that's the one I think that's going to be for me. The weather's changing.

That's the one for me. Yeah. I'm more concerned. I like devices. Don't know. It's, it's dope. But I like, I'm looking forward to, to the Silas project. I want to wait for Demaris to get back to dive into Mariah the scientists because I know

that's one of her favorite artists. Uh, we do have to have a Mariah's scientist pen conversation one day. Okay. What's that? Top 10 right now. Yeah? Penn. I can see certain music not being for you or whatever.

Penn? Oh no, man. Mariah might be top ten. I think no matter what happens with Mariah's career, if Rihanna gets inspired, Mariah should be writing. She has that type of pen, in my opinion. I never really listen to much of her music outside of like the songs that I go to because, you know,

people on Instagram post a song in their reels and stuff like that. I'm like, damn, that sound dope and I'll go to the song. But I never really, like, got into her, like, music like that. Like, really just went and listened to all of her shit. Nah, she'd be talking about. But the songs I've heard are dope, though. I guess we'll just get the rest of this list off before we get out of here. Ice Spice T is a new song with MIA sample.

Didn't hear it. Listen, coming off to Denzel. Sure. I'm not letting you do that Do what man Because it sounds like you're trying to shit on the DeBronce legend I'm not Alright

No I capitalized Like after Denzo was your supporting actor Like Her supporting actor You gave Denzo a look Now you're trying to give M.A. I totally get it I'm gonna'

Rampage Jackson's son You're a dirtback He's going to jail And he should go to jail He's going to prison Definitely going on If he doesn't go to jail Not that I don't question

our judicial system because of Jussie Smolett. But what the fuck? Yeah, that was crazy. That's the most sucker shit. Come on. Yeah. We're in a fake wrestling match and you start doing it. That's the most sucker shit I've ever seen.

Yeah, that was crazy. That's absolutely insane. I think he's definitely going to prison for that. Jadicus and Beny announced a joint album. Is that fully confirmed or is that a back and forth thing? They were on IG on the video. They said it. I saw it.

I just didn't know. This is one of those times that I, I think AI is a good thing. I would love for Beans to lay all of his vocals and have AI improve his voice based off the unfortunate situation he was put in that affected his voice. I think AI is good in this. Because I want to, of course I want to hear Kissing Bean's history,

one of the greatest battles of all time. Of course I want to hear Kiss and Beans together. I just hope they use AI. They will. I think Beans has said that. Be Be Beans right and lay everything down. I think he said that already. He would definitely use that technology.

Just put his voice back to what it was. But I'm excited. A lot of bars. A lot of bars. Yeah. They're not rapping like kissing beans. A lot of these dudes, I ain't rapping like that. I'm looking forward to that.

Hopefully they make it happen. But I would love to hear that. When was the last time you went back to that Kiss and FAB project? Sometime last year I listened to a couple of Jones. That happened was dope. though. Go back to it today. It's slept on. Go back to it today. Yeah, yeah. That's one of the most slept on projects in recent years.

That album is fucking... Yeah, absolutely. Freddy versus Jason, right? Yeah. It was some joints on there, definitely. I definitely... I meant that we had that conversation, though. That album? I went back to it. That shit is crazy. No, yeah, that project was dope. That project was... I'm listening to it tonight. Yeah. That's gonna be my... I mean, if only we were on the same label as Kiss and, like, could talk to him.

That's the conversation for another day, Rory. We'll talk to y'all soon. ask volume to see if we get a Drake interview? See if they can reach out to his team. Be safe. Be blessed. We'll talk to y'all soon. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. This is an I-Heart podcast.

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