New Rory & MAL - Episode 401 | King of Dubai

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

All is back to normal as we got Demaris back after her vacation to close out the week. Shoutout to Rory for getting a placement on DJ Khaled's new all-star dancehall track. Demaris and Rory think Mariah The Scientist might have dropped a Top 5 R&B album of 2025. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce get engaged, but do we honestly give a damn? French Montana just married his way into becoming the world's richest rapper. Any chance he's able to pay Jay-Z enough to perform at the wedding? Plus, Cardi B kills it in the courtroom, Mal is convinced Bieber goes around sayin' the N-Word, and our voicemail got us encouraging violence #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But I don't like your radio voice. Yeah, that should have known you. Just talk like you was just talking. Like, just chill to fuck out. Just talk like you was just talking. Yeah, but I don't like that, man. I don't like that. I just want to start the episode with energy.

Just gets us moving. Like, all right. And now. He said you want to end it, right? Traffic report. I'm just saying, Mike never lost when he heard and now. That's what I'm saying. He never, he never lost.

Who, who, uh, what's the artist on Mike's theme song? Which Mike? Jordan. On his theme song? What's his theme song? You know the Michael Jordan. It's just an instrumental, isn't it? Yeah, but like who made that?

Oh, I don't know. Like who's getting the royalties on that? Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know. I think that's a. Series satellite radio? No. that would make total sense of serious satellites made that song the Alan

Paulson project okay that's weird that no one like brings that up that's like famous Tommy Davis fucking discovered it all right I don't think I don't think I think you're thinking of like Tommy Davis in the comedian oh yeah you know what different yeah my bad it's no way all right man You don't know. Tommy Davidson found that Alan Barnes project? Damaris came back on complete bullshit. Oh, for sure.

There's no way you thought Tommy Davidson, Varnel Hill, came up with the fucking theme song for the Chicago Bulls. There's no way you thought that. Mall, she was on bullshit the moment. We have not seen her in quite some time. I get off the elevator and she shushed me because she was on a work call, but I wasn't saying anything. I just got off the elevator.

She went, shoo. Because Roy would be coming in there. I'm bullshit. I have my AirPods in. No, when I come in, I don't talk to anyone. Who was on a work call? She was. What work call was you?

You had work. What work calls you were? Why, you niggas think y'all my only job? Hmm. Oh, well, let me know. So we can, I'm saying, make sure that we talk a-A-jured. We could take a vacation. Yeah, like, let me know what's going on.

My bad. I get it how you get it. Look a little tan out in these streets. Yeah, you know, I got a little something. I try to get, like, my Ruby Rose on and get my little tan lines. It's a little something. Demaris, how was your vacation? You zoomed in, you seemed like you were in pain

I was. You were limping. She wasn't in pain. She just didn't want to be on a goddamn FaceTime. It was her idea. It's not true. That's not true. I wanted to talk to y'all more actually.

You wanted to talk to other more. I really didn't want to talk to y'all. Like I had blocked out my morning and everything, but I was in a lot of fucking pain. I was in a lot of pain. Because you fell. No, it had nothing to. Oh, my bad.

Like, y'all keep bringing up that fall. I have a bruise the size of Texas. Do we post that full? Did we post that? We did? Okay. I posted it on TikTok. No, no, we got to post that on.

No, it's got to be in like... That's some of DSPs, yeah. We got to put you on the DSP. Yeah, we got to put a better help ad next to that one. Making money on that. She didn't need better help. That's the commercial. Maul, how would you feel if you took your very hard-earned money and took a woman to an

island? Don't do it. She was sick the whole time? And she was sick those times? She was just sick. Just sitting there all just, just all sick. I would be upset because I could have had somebody else out here enjoying Could he have had somebody else?

No, I'm saying me. This is hypothetical. I'm just saying me. I could have had, you know, that's the way I would have been thinking like, damn, I could have had, Keisha could have came out here and been busting it open crazy. Because Keisha's never sick. She's never on a period. Never.

Never watches her child. Never. She's always free. It's available. At all the time, she is. It's crazy. Keisha's are always available. I've never met a Keisha that was like, nah, I can't.

make it. Kishas? Kishas is like the cleanup hitters. They come through when you need a hit. Call a Kisha. Guarantee. I would just be so tight. And also I wouldn't like maybe because I'm an asshole. I wouldn't like take care of the girl. If I spent this money, I'm like, I'm going to go and do adventures by myself. Like if you think I'm not jet skiing because your tummy hurt. Yeah. I'm not wasting all this money. But DeMarsh, the trip was, um, you had a good time. I didn't have a good time. It was, it was very relaxing. Did you miss home? Are you happy to be back home in your own bed? Oh, I definitely missed my bed for sure.

Why is that a thing? Why do we always miss our bed? I'll be missing my bed. And I've seen some of the beds that y'all be missing. And I'm like, you miss that? Like, I know the hotel bed was better than that. Way better. Like, I know sheets better, pillows better.

Every morning. Like, you miss your bed and the hotel bed is better than your bed. I love hotel bed, though. Like, I actually get good night sleeping hotels. It depends on which hotel, though. I'm not going to lie. Because one time I slept on a hotel. I think we was on the road together.

I forgot what city it was. And that hotel bed, it felt like a nigga was in the mattress. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm cool. Wait, where we're? Because we've never, like, stayed in, like, shitty hotels. Sometimes depending on the market, they're a little different. I want to say it was Charlotte. I think it was the Charlotte Hotel we stayed in.

But that was like a Marriott or some shit. That match, that was a bad mattress, bro. I'm sorry. I don't go lie. I'm a little boozy when to come to, like, shit like that, though. Really? Mattresses? No idea.

We had no clue. I can't lay on a bum mattress. I'm sorry. I can't do it. I cannot do it. Like, I don't get no, I'll close my eyes, but I'm not really sleep. Like, I'm just waiting for the sun to come up so I can start the new day and just get out the room. Like, when it's a terrible mattress, like, I don't get good sleep on the back. I can get 12 hours of sleep in the red roof in Detroit. Oh, you're a nasty nigga. Yeah. No, I went, but I bought new sheets. I didn't use their sheets. If you feel like you got to buy sheets. You don't need to be there, baby. You don't need to be there. Why you just buy an air mattress to sleep on the floor at that point? There wasn't enough room to put air mattress. The room is the bed. Put the air matches on top of the bed. Were you ever took a bitch to the red room? And I definitely snuck in a plan of fitness to shower. You was homeless or what? That's some homeless.

No, it was a creative process. Okay. Recording out of a red roof in Detroit. So you didn't want to shower in the whole room? Oh, I went to go do that. Because, again, I'm not really that boozy, but there are some. Oh, my. Yeah.

Yo, that is a bad fall. Yo. That is a bad. Ma, stop laughing. I didn't realize it was that bad, yo. You got to look at her face at the end, though. You could turn. Oh.

Oh, and you hit the side. That could have got bad, though. That split. First of all, I can't swim. So if I had broken something, if I had broken something and couldn't get up out of the water, I would drown. Why are you walking that close to the pool and you can't swim? So this is ready to die for content. You ready to die for content.

You would have fell off the other side of that infinity. Yo, I didn't even think about that. If you went the other way, that's what the person who didn't say. Save me said. He said, if you would have leaned a little bit to the right, you'd have been out of here. And I'd had no clue. That is crazy. Yeah, it was, it was bad. Yeah, that's worse than I thought. I only saw that video one time, but it looks now watching it like over it. That's a bad fall. It was, it was scary. It was very scary. I saw my life flash before my eyes. It was very, very scary.

Damn, I'm glad you all right. I know that leg was burning like a motherfucker. It hurts so bad. The bruise is literally, it's literally so big. It takes up my whole thigh. It's purple. It hurts. You got an, um, a therrigan? I think everybody should have a therig gun. Do you have one? I had something similar. The fuck is a therogone. You know what the therogun is? No. You got to get a therogun.

You got to get a therog. Can you explain to me what that is? It's the massage. It's like the personal, the handheld massage thing. You know, like, oh yeah, okay, yeah. I had one of those

during track. That's the greatest shit ever right there. Oh yeah, no, those are great. The greatest shit ever. But that's not going to break up that clot that's on Demerica's die right now. 100%. That's absolutely.

That's what it does. It hurts. And I got a mosquito bite right in the middle of it that I can't scratch because it hurts so bad. fucked up. Like, I'm fucked up. Will you go back, though? To Carissao, for sure. Because there's a bunch of stuff that I didn't get a chance

to do just because I was in pain. I had a lot going on. We just weren't there for enough days. Well, it's good. Good to have you back. Good to see you. I definitely want to go back. Glad you made it back from your fall. Thank you. As we go into fall. That's what the metaphor.

She's the ground hog. She was a groundhog. Let us know we got three more weeks or summer. As soon as the bruise goes away. That's one of a fall. That's what the phone was coming in. As soon as your bruise is gone, baby, Dee, we got stuck, you know what I'm saying, going into that fall weather. How quickly did he laugh after you fell?

He didn't laugh. I just sent, I sent him to video and was like, this is why you shouldn't leave me alone by myself. He came outside and looked at me and just was like, and shook his head and just went back inside. I like him. I think that was him like making sure I was like alive. He would have ran over there and tried to like tend to her wound.

Yeah. But get this pansy out of here. Already ruined the trip by the estate. It was just pansy. Like, come on, man. But if he looked at you and was just like, in that moment, as a moment, as a man, man, you want me to tell you what he was thinking? What?

I got the wrong bitch out here. I have seen Keisha sprinting around a pool. I'm going to keep it real with you. In that moment, he for sure thought about three other bitches he could have. Just keeping it real, baby, Dekis, you my nigga. As a man, when we look at the girl, like, and we give him that little head and I, like, three bitches done flashed like, I could have had three bits that would never do this dumb shit.

Start as up everything you just spent. Like, what am I doing out here? Why are y'all trying to convince me that my boyfriend hates me? Nah, he don't hate you. He loves you. I'm sure he does. Nothing's worse than getting post nut clarity when you haven't noticed. Like, you just get clarity.

Like, what am I doing? Yeah, like, when you see a girl by the pool and she just bruised on the thigh, she almost fell. She's trying to make content. You're just like, I just wanted to come out here and fuck by the pool, get some sleep, eat some fruit. She's making content. It's all good. But we are back and sponsored by Boost Mobile. That is a fact.

And merch is on sale right behind Baby. Do you look at that prosperity pack? You know what I'm saying? Available now. Available now. Have you ever been on vacation with a content chick? No. I did it once and I was very like scared that I was going to hate it.

But it matched well with me wanting to have my alone time. She got to go with her tripod and go find shit on the resort to do her content and I got to be alone. That's exactly what was going on. It's actually not that bad. I thought the content chick was going to ruin every moment. We wouldn't be able to even have fun or live in the moment or have experience. It was actually okay. I got my alones up.

I've only dated one girl, I think that makes... And then she drove us into the sand dunes on ATV and almost killed us. Okay. Because she wanted to film while driving an ATV. I shouldn't let a woman drive an ATV to begin with. You just couldn't not be misogynistic. Like, there was no even, there was no need to be misogynistic in the whole story. You just had to pull misogyny out of your red ass.

I have to pull it out of there. It just exists in my aura. But I'm explaining what happened. Ma. Just because you viewed it as misogynistic. Ma, how was your experience? experience with dating a content shit. It was cool because she was like a gamer.

So she would just like going like her gamer room and close the door and just being there for a couple hours. Bringing the PS4. Takabo is fucking crazy. She's a gamer. Yeah. She made money too. Oh, okay. Well, then yeah, I can.

She got to work. I can see that. I thought that was just like the coolest shit though. But just pulling up the call of duty like in Aruba. At noon. No, not on vacation. I've never been on vacation with a girl making content. But I don't really, now that you're like asking me that.

I don't really, I don't know if that's by like default, but I don't really date women that make content like that. Well, let me not say content. They post a lot on Instagram. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do what? Don't minimize, don't minimize content creators.

Are you talking about women that just post on Instagram? Just girls that want a lot. There's not a brand deal attached. They just want to post on the internet. Is it just Instagram or is it like she has like a whole like she's on a like press run. She got to post it on TikTok. She got a post on Snapchat. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah.

She got a post on Instagram. Every day is a press run. She has posted on X. Yeah. She needs an app where you could just send on one video and it goes to all platforms. Yeah, that's a lot. But no, the chick that I was went on vacation with, she was actual like content creator. I mean, I would say her body was probably a lot of what people tuned in for, but she makes money off her social media.

Okay. So that's a, I'm not minimal. Yeah, the girl I dated, I don't think people were tuning in to watch to see if she can beat that level. Like, she was very attractive, had a nice body. Like, they wasn't seeing, they wasn't trying to see if she can beat, like, level six. But they just let her run through the call of Judy Madden. Nobody even shoots. Nobody gives them.

Nobody gives them. They let her free weapons. They're like, you need a guy. You need a gun. See, that's not fair. I think a lot of women who do, especially that type of content, like, it's cool that they can do that. It's also cool that they look good too. But for example, I come on this fucking podcast and people,

The men do, some of them, do care about my actual opinion. Some people do just watch, you know, for the way I look. But some people like me because of the things that I say, too. It's added pluses that I also am a track. Yeah, I mean, it's no secret that the jumping jack clip is going crazy right now just because you was just stood up and jumped up and down. Well, everyone's in athletics. Yeah.

They weren't to see you. That was a clip. And somebody sent me a video. And somebody sent me a video of the, like, military. I don't know what country they was in. but they were telling them to do jumping jacks people i tried to tell baby d people don't know how to do jumping jacks we got to find that clip that clip look baby he looked that's not funny look that's not funny okay i gave george bush a lot of shit in the mid 2000s maybe they did need a regime change

i apologize to the bush administration i see why we needed to invade and help with our army man she was getting a little out of control no wonder fucking al qaeda just steamrobed everyone one because jumping jacks is it's like you have to be coordinated a lot of people don't yo you i'm telling you it takes coordination to do a jump as simple as that sounds it does take coordination to do a jumping jack i can do that but a lot of people can't do that i can't i never could look at that shit that's real that's not a skit that's real look at my man's second to the right that's what i'm saying so baby when i asked baby nis she was like yo what you mean i'm telling you some i've seen it in real life some people don't know

to do jumping jacks you never had gym class in school and seen people do jump and you're like what is what is you doing i kind of remember everyone being able to do no way no way i remember some people were a little slower at them but everyone could do this that is almost as difficult as pat in your head and rubbing your stomach for some people that's why i asked baby this this took me decades but that's why this was this one was tough you do that because i know people don't really know how to do jumping jack i don't know if i can't oh i can do with the other no i can't i can only do it this way with the right hand on your head yeah yeah i can't I can.

Righty, right? I'm lefty. You lefty? That makes sense. You already talk about album of the year? The album of the year. The year's not over. Don't matter. Song of the summer?

Can we start there? Is there one? Nah. Definitely. What? It's definitely a song of the summer. Not like us. Not like us.

Joking. Never mind. Bad joke. Thank you. What's the song of the summer, Mom? To me? Mm-hmm. It would have to be somebody loves me, party and Drake.

I think that's a song of the summer. That's the one song I could remember. Like, at any summer event, any show, the reaction when that went off, definitely song of the summer. I feel like when that song was really kind of like being the one, I feel like it was still spring. Like, it may be top of the summer. Like, when I was in Houston, that was the song that everybody did that. And what the hellie was what people were singing. Oh, yeah.

What the hellie shit was going crazy. No, that's not song. That somebody loves it. me now this Bryce and Chris record is picking up. I would go with Bryce and Chris. That's picking up a lot of steam. But that to me is still not. It doesn't go off. Because somebody loves me. That song is like everybody is singing that as soon as that shit starts. Like every girl in the club wherever you at is singing that. Soon as somebody loving to come on, they're singing that. Well, as a person that was outside a little bit this summer, I would have to go with Shake It to the

max. That's that's what I would have to go with. It's far as New York. Okay. I'm not mad at that. That's a good fit. That's what I would have to go with. That's a good choice. It would be shaken to the backs.

Yeah. I haven't really been outside really at all. So I'm out of this conversation. I feel like anything I say would be wrong. Song of the Summer would be Miss Rachel's latest rendition. For sure. That's the son. Mr.

Son. Mr. Son. Son. Mr. Golden Son. That go crazy. Why that goes crazy. She shined. Oh, you are such a great.

Oh, you're such an orange. Hello. Indigo. Violet. I love the rainbow. Hey, dog. That is crazy. Yeah, I don't know.

But I feel like the last few years, despite me not being outside like that, even if I wasn't, you would know the distinct like this was a song of the summer. And that's been kind of weird for the past few years, in my opinion. Yeah. That we don't have a distinct song of the summer this year or the past few years. Past few years, I would say.

No. I mean, I'm not trying to make a joke. I guess last summer you would say not like us was that. Yeah. But the year before that, 2023, I don't remember. But I could be wrong. There could have been a distinct one and I just can't remember. And I hate doing the Google shit because they always, they'll give me like, you know, some Sabrina Carpenter song that I've never heard as song.

Yeah, no, I'm just talking about just off of just being out and, you know, watching seeing what I'm seeing online. I don't know again that Chris Brown Bryson record is definitely But it's also August 28th Like But yeah We have three days left of song

Of the summer Yeah I mean you don't think What me and Calid gave him today Could be up there You don't think Caled and Rory Lovestone Is up there That was the confusion that

It was in your text messages Were letting me the other day You know confusing me with Rory Stone Love is the funniest thing in the world to be for some reason. Callet put out his first single I guess you would consider this the first single

featuring Vives Cartel, Buzubantam, Bouti, Bouther, Mavado, myself called you remind me. I feel like he DM'd every chick I've ever known and put them in the video. Videos are, the record's cool too. It's also seven minutes. I think it's two different records.

We're recording this now at 2.30. He still hasn't released the post Malone and NBA Young Boy record but he's supposed to put that out today as well. So three records in one day, you remind me, hot shot and then I guess the second half of you remind me. I didn't hear the record yet. It's cool.

I mean, we were talking last episode what we think Khaled would do with A-listers. This is like the most A-list dance-haul record I've ever seen in my fucking life. Okay. This is really... Yeah, we've got vibes, booju, bounty, Mavito. This is swagger like us for dance-all.

Got it. So yeah, it was a cool record. I thought at first, all right, maybe he's probably going to lean full dance hall on this one or go more Afro beats style, but he also has a Post Malone and NBA Young Boy record today. That's an interesting mix. It's probably to be hard. I want to hear that, yeah. I want to hear that.

I feel like with Post you kind of can't miss if you, because Callet makes records that sound very expensive. I feel like with that mix with Post Malone, you kind of can't really miss. With super high level production in Post Malone, I think you're going to. to be okay. Yeah. So I mean, I think it's been a good, uh, good comeback based off his movie with Mark Wahlberg and his two Drake records. And you still think he has a J-Verst coming? No. Okay. I don't. Do what I like one? Yes. But you don't think it's happening. I don't. Okay. All right. We're just checking, man, because the other day you kind of had a little different tone. Well, no, I just think if he's inspired, maybe he'll wrap, but I don't, I don't really,

I don't see it, but I mean, Rihanna changed her avie, so we know she's on the Calad album. Rihanna did change her avie and everybody started going crazy. What does this mean? Does it mean music is coming? I'm trying to tell you, Rihanna is not making no music. The money that Rihanna is making in the beauty world and the fashion world, she doesn't, music is like, you know, if you have that old bike in the garage and maybe you might take it out for a spin around the block, that's what music is for Rihanna right now.

I mean, yeah, she changed the header too to like a mixture of all her album titles. people are like, oh, must mean that. No, it's probably a fencing line that's called graded R or something. Yeah. I don't really see this. But it does add to my, I need my flowers list because I said she was going to tease music and not give us any. So. Well, we still got to see.

She decides to put a record out. I don't think so, though. I really don't think Rihanna is inspired to create or make music at this point. I mean, obviously she did the Smurf. Yeah. That was the movie that she was a part of. But outside of things like that, I just don't see it, man. I think that artists as big as Rihanna, you know, and they were able to pivot into other forms of, you know, branding and kind of using their status to create income and other avenues of streams of income and things like that to support their lifestyle.

I just don't think she's in love with music like that no more. Man, I'm going out like John Elway. Antio was my last album. It's a classic piece. Period. Like, I'll see y'all later. I gave you a bona fide fucking classic. I'm going to go off in the sunset with all my kids and my makeup.

Yeah. I'm not going to try to make anti to or make something that everyone else is going to compare to every fucking album. My discography is incredible. I'm a pop icon. Yeah, because that is. I gave you anti. Leaving alone.

Because that is the thing that's going to happen. She put out a new project. They only going to do is compare it to anti. And if it's not as good as anti, yo, she fell off. Yeah, and we waited this long for this. long for this. You know how hard it is to make an album as good as anti. That's what I'm saying. So if she comes back and doesn't make an album as good anti or better, people are going just, you know, as soon as the, what the songs, maybe an hour and a half. Yeah.

Two hours after the song dropped, everybody going to be online like, yo, we waited this many years for that. So as an artist, it's like, why do you want to put yourself in that, especially when you don't have to? No. I don't, I don't, Rihanna does not have to make music ever again in her life. Like, she has classic songs. She has a classic album. she did the Super Bowl like she's a fucking the queen of the beauty world right now like why would she create an album for people like

people ain't dissing the fucking Fenty shades they ain't all along like yo this new shade is trash so it's like you don't even have to have that energy like coming to you of people like just shitting on your product like so it's like why put yourself in that position especially when you know just the landscape of streaming and how artists are paid

and things like that I just I don't think that it just you know for somebody like Rihanna, I don't know if that makes sense for her to put out that album. That is actually why I do give a lot of credit to Beyonce, because to me, she's in the same boat and obviously in the same boat and continues to just make great albums. Yeah, but Beyonce, that's great, like you didn't need to do that. But Beyonce, what Beyonce is doing this. She's touring. Yeah. Every album is now, of course, you know what I'm saying? So she does that, goes around the world,

hits every fucking soccer stadium and just sells it out and the color silver is not available, nowhere in the world, like shit like that. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's what being is doing. All the game. All the gays can't find assless chaps anymore. They're pissed. Like, she's just doing shit like that. Like, you know, I mean, but it's still, and still, it's a line with her and who she is. The Cowboy Carter album, obviously she's from Texas.

So it's still part of her brand. It's not like some shit that's just foreign to her. Obviously, she was at the point that you are a legend. Your Disheneration's Michael. And I don't know if we're going to get any music. And then you go, yeah, I'm actually going to give you three albums. There's going to be three parts to this. Yeah.

That's fucking crazy. Yeah. Because she doesn't need to do that. So I do appreciate that. But we didn't talk about this last week because we wanted to wait on Demaris because she was posting every single Mariah the Scientist caption of all time. If Rihanna does work on an album, I hope to God Mariah writes for her. Bro.

Because this heart sold separately, shit is crazy. Oh, yay, Lori. Is that the name of her album? Yeah. I told you out earlier this week, I never really got into Mariah the Scientist. I hear her music and the songs when, you know, girls posted on their stories and things like that. that's how I hear her music. I've never really sat and listened to it.

But if you're saying the project is dope, then I got to definitely give her a listen. Oh, no. This, I mean, I'm happy that Thug is now free. But it was nice the pain that it put Mariah through because, boy, did this album touch my soul? Are you cool?

What song do you like? I'm so excited that you like it. I would never want to thank the state's district attorney of Georgia, any law enforcement, Atlanta, but through darkness comes light. And Thug definitely sat down for all of us so we could get Mariah in this amount of pain to give us an album with us. Who's like the producer she works with? That's a good question. I actually don't know. Let me look. Well, the song that I was going to do a lyrical breakdown of 1985 did it. Oh, right? Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. Which record is that? Eternal Flame. That definitely sounds like that.

like some 85 shit for sure. Yeah. All right, yeah. Oh, 80. All right. So 85 did one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. He did this entire album. Yeah.

Oh. Yeah, no, now I'm like, I mean, of course there's some co-producers on other stuff, but 85, 85, 85. So the music I'm familiar with it. So the music is not going to be, I'm going to be familiar with the music at least. You're going to like the music, yeah. I'm not familiar with her pen, though. So this is where, this is where, right, I'll be in the comment sections, like a

stand fighting for Mariah because to me singing ability is not everything. The same thing with rappers, right? Like I don't, your rap voice isn't everything. It's important, but it's not always everything. To me, the first thing I hear when I hear songs is not the beat, is not the melody. The first thing I pay attention to is lyrics. Like I've told you all before on this podcast that I'll, yes, I will read a song through and read the lyrics before I even listen to the song. Like that's how I, that's just the part of music that matters to me most. Man, if I did that, I wouldn't listen to half of this shit. These niggas don't be saying nothing.

They don't be saying nothing. That's why I don't listen to a lot of music these days, right? So Mariah's music, to me, so if Summer Walker's music sounds like, and I think I tweeted this, if Summer Walker's music sounds like what women sound like when they cussing a nigger out or when they're talking to their home girls about a nigger,

Mariah's music is what it sounds like when you're writing in your diary and you know no one will ever read it. That's the way that she talks in her music. It's a different type of vulnerable. It's very poetic. It's very sometimes self-destructive and self-deprecating. And I feel like a lot of women feel this way,

but in the climate that we're in, it's not okay to be this down bad about niggas. You can't say this shit out loud. Like, and she's some of, she's one of the only people who does it. Like she's just so dedicated to this love shit and she's just so in it in real life and in the music. And I think that that's admirable because I'm all for feminism.

I'm all for fuck these niggas. They're not worth the headache and the stress and the broken heart. Sometimes you got to ask daddy am I your baby. Yeah, exactly. Did I read that she's a real scientist? I don't know why that was just, I'm sorry. It was just a funny question. She was going to school for something.

St. John's for something scientific related. If I'm not mistaken. She's not a science, but she's not a scientist. But she's not a scientist. I'm saying, she doesn't see the fucking. the new planet and the solar. No, she's not doing that. But I'm saying she really went to school.

She went to school for biology. She wanted to be a pediatric anesthesiologist. So biology. She's educated. Yes. That's why they call them a riotous. Yeah, I think that's fly. I think, no, for sure.

It's just funny. She assigned to. No, I mean, you know, she studied. I know she went to school and she was really like studying and the books. So I think that's dope. Yeah. That's fire. I got to check it out.

Now that I know 85 produced it. I think you'll like the music. I know I'm going to be familiar with, obviously. But, you know, you're saying that her pen. it's fire. So yeah. Like I said, I like the songs that I hear on, you know, social media when girls make videos and things like that and I look and I say, oh, defying women

be posting, you know. I mean, it's some there's some boogal wolves in there too, but you know, music is for everybody. We're not tripping. Yeah, I did my little, you know, my little video. And niggas was like, man, nobody hear that eight track you got in playing in the background. I'm like, damn, like, thought I was being artsy. I do feel

really bad for you now that I know that, like, lyrics are the first, first thing that you listen to. I don't even know how you do that. I don't even know how you do that. I've, I've heard. I don't listen to the music. Like reading the lyrics before you listen to the music, it's almost like eating dessert before the entree comes out. Like, what are you doing?

I've heard a million songs with shitty lyrics and good music that were great. I don't think I've ever heard a great song that had good lyrics and shitty music. You've never heard a song that had great lyrics and shitty music? Yeah, I've never heard a great song. Well, you wouldn't think it was a good song. Well, you wouldn't think it was a good song. Lyrics are one of those important things to me, period. But see, I don't think Pete said all, Nause's music.

I've never, I don't subscribe to that theory that everyone has that he has shitty beats. But even when he has shitty beats, even though Nause rapping his ass off, I don't like the song. So to me, great lyrics, bad music doesn't equal a good song. No. But great music, shitty lyrics can make for a great song. Half of the rappers now. Like, yes. So that, yeah, that's why you could never go and think of just lyrics.

Then you just, what you're going to like in 2025? The music is the first thing. Like, it's the music that, you know what I mean? That just does something. Like, it's like, okay, it has my ear. Now I'm paying attention because of the music. Well, to be fair, I mainly do that with R&B. I would not do that immediately with rap because you wouldn't be able to get,

you wouldn't be able to listen to anything. But a lot of stuff like Mariah and like early summer, not so much the last two projects, but like her EPs, a lot of that, I mean, basically. in a good way. Like a lot of it is just guitar riffs or just keys and them talking their shit. But to me, that's still good music. Yeah. R&B, like, it's rare in R&B which, like, that beat is shitty. Hip-hop happens all the fucking time. And pop music, it happens all the time. But traditional R&B, yeah, it can, there can be bad beats, but bad R&B beats are still better than some good

hip-hop beats in my train. I need the music first, the melody second, and then the lyrics. Oh, yeah, I can't. Because I'm going to hear the music in the melody way before I even hear what you're saying. Dude, sometimes the, I've heard shitty beats with good melodies and I've gotten through it. Sometimes a melody will carry a home. A melody will carry the beat. The melody is probably the most important thing. Yeah.

Like, I, yeah. Because for me, it ain't what you say is how you saying it. Yeah. So it's like, all right, cool. Like, I don't care if you say the most prolific shit. If you don't got the right influxions and the right melody and the right tone, it's like, that shit sounds terrible. I mean, shit, some of the greatest R&B songs, if you. go to genius to look up the lyrics. It was like a fucking haiku. Right. It said six words.

It was the most profound shit ever. And you're saying that, especially in the 90s, though. Oh, hell are you. Like, a lot of the way the way they wrote R&B was like very like, I'm like, that's it. That's the first verse. It was, there wasn't even verses. It was bridge hook, bridge hook. The verses were bridges like that could actually could have been a chorus if you wanted to be. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that was the B hook. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. But, But yeah, I definitely think you should check it out. I'm a riot scientist. I'm checking out the heart soul separately this weekend.

I'm going to be listening to that. Which record did you want to bring up to Maris? No, I just, it's Eternal Flame, the lyrics to Eternal Flame, basically where she just said, I blurred the lines, followed a stranger past the vines. There were flowers hanging birds of flying that were mine. Still as true nature was a disguise. I was hypnotized. Then I felt a change.

There were winds of racing and raging tides. And then I sensed the danger from up behind. when I turn to face it to my surprise of familiar vice. That was you slipping into the pool. Shut up. That is, people aren't writing like that anymore. That's very wordy for R&B,

which I appreciate. I think that's a crazy talent. Like, what is her singing like? Mariah is not a strong vocalist. Yeah, I wouldn't put her in the vocalist. She has a pretty tone. She's more of a tone, more of a vibe. I wouldn't put her in a vibe.

She's not whispering singer, but I wouldn't put her in. wouldn't, it's not a vocal. Is it, is it a mix between Jeney summer? No, not that strong. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's why people don't, that's why, that's why, where Mariah gets all the flag is because she's not a strong singer. She's not bad. She's not bad to listen to. I've heard her live. But it's not strong singing. Like if you heard her, you wouldn't be like, you wouldn't, if you weren't listening to what she's saying, you wouldn't pay her any attention. Yeah. And that, that is where she doesn't get the recognition that she deserves. But she has her own lane. I think her tone is enjoyable. a lot of people don't

but I enjoy it. Okay. But I think we should bring back making writing important to music. Well, writing should always be important in music. But it hasn't been for a long time. Nah, chat GBT, you don't bring the lyrics back.

That's very... I'm one of those people that thinks like if you use chat GBT for lyrics, I can't really respect you as a lyricist. But some of y'all need that shit and maybe it will save... Maybe it'll help. Some of y'all I feel like it's fine.

If you guys want to use chat, JBT, please. because whatever you're writing with your man's in them is not good. It's not hitting. But, I mean, either way, I have it up there for, you know, I wouldn't say album of the year, but it's definitely in my top 10 now for R&B this year. Ah, welcome to the game. I don't think it's great. I think it's really, really top 10 R&B this year.

Happy to have you here. Don't fully quote me because I didn't sit here and put a list together in my head, but there has, I mean, there also hasn't been too, too much R&B to begin with. I'm putting in top five, me perfectly. Maybe. I would have to sit in like Top five album of the year? For R&B?

For R&B. Wow. I'm putting it. Oh, I gotta go check this out. But again, like I said, lyrics are everything to me. So I judge that, like most importantly.

I'm gonna go listen to this Mariah of Sciences album. And if I don't get top five or top 10, I'm coming to here Monday and I'm cursing y'all niggas out. Well, then look. Whoa then, that nigga?

What up? Like, fuck me. You going to curse me out before? Because I'm not. I'm just saying, because it's like, y' like, y'all can't be putting a 20 on a 10. Like, come on now.

I don't do that. I've never put it to time. All right. So you stamping it. I'm stamping it. I knew it was going to be that when it first came on. Nika, have you heard burning blue? That's one of the joints I did here on.

Yeah. Some gas. I like that record. Yeah. Yeah. So it's more of that on the album? Mm-hmm. All right.

Let me check out. Like I said, I like what I heard. I just never heard, you know, listen to a full project. I'll say this. I missed the correct day. Is this the first album? No. No.

No. No. If Taylor Swift can be Taylor Swift, then we need to give Mariah a scientist more credit and I'll just say that because I thought writing was important. Lyrics. No, no, no, no, no, no. So let's ever let everyone.

Let's relax. You see how everyone. Calm down. Let me talk. Let me talk. Let me talk. Let me see how they're just going to talk. If lyrics and relatability is what makes you

become the fucking biggest pop star in the world, then give Mariah her credit. Because Taylor Swift ain't no fucking Whitney Houston. And that's not taking anything away for her. Who is? Because that's not her. That's not her bag. Like she's not, vocalism isn't her bad. Taylor is a.

better singer than Mariah Scientist. I don't think so. I don't know. See, you don't listen. You don't hear Taylor. I don't hear Taylor. You got to go for walks.

You don't go for walks. You don't take walks and have Taylor in your ear. Yes. Yes, I do. Yeah. You don't know baby. You don't know baby. She don't know when all the new hot snacks is coming out.

She knows when all the new hot guitars is dropping. And before y'all hop in my inbox saying I'm disrespecting Taylor, I'm not because I am one of people that thinks that Taylor is talented. Comparing her to Mariah the scientist is not a knock on her at all because of how it's highly. I speak on Mariah. But Taylor is not some strong vocalist.

But what everybody talks about is Taylor's writing and her relatability. So if we can give her all that smoke and all that work and all that props for her writing and her relatability, I'm just saying give it to the black girls too. That's what I'm saying. Who do you think writes better melodies? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who writes their melodies.

I know Maria writes her melodies. I don't know if Taylor writes her melodies. I know she writes her songs. I don't know if she writes her melodies exactly. There's a lot that goes with the vocal structure. writing R&B in the writing is the melody is well. Yeah, but there's usually, there's people, you know that there's people that come in and help people structure their melody.

Of course. Yeah, producers and things like that. Of course. I'm, I'm sure 85 as a producer to, I've seen work, I'm sure he also helped because 85 is a great writer, understands melodies. He's a fucking real, real, real musician. Shout out to 85. I love him.

I'm sure there was, there's always help with everybody. But I would say Taylor Swift writes better melodies than Mariahs scientists. Okay. You would like bump Taylor's before Mariah's? What do you mean about bump? Like bump, like play. Like in a car. Oh, okay.

Because Mariah first on a lot of those. If I get in Rory's car and he got Taylor Swift playing, we're going to have to have a conversation. What's up, fan? I probably knocked bad blood in the whip before. Okay. Now we don't like bad blood. No, no.

You know, I like Taylor Swift. I'm just saying if I get in my home car. That's a in the fucking act legend. You could throw on bad blood for sure. Nobody has never played. With the 12-inch subs in the back. Nobody has ever played Taylor Swift in the Accura legend. That has never happened.

That has never happened. So my same playlist with Koo-G-Rap, Survival the Fist. Yo, playing Taylor right after Koo-G-Rap, it's crazy. Like, yo, what's up, man? We all, like, what's the vibe? Like, what you're going through in your car if you go from Koo-G-Rap to Taylor Swift? I actually feel like I should get more into Taylor Swift. I don't, like, boycott.

I'm not an anti-Taylor person. I just haven't taken the time to, like, get into her catalog. I'm sure I would probably like it because I love pop music. I like Taylor Swift, but I mean, I got to be, I can't be at that. I got to be doing something. Like, I got to be in Target or something like that. I got to be, you have to be waiting in line of Starbucks where they sell a CD. Yeah, toilet trees.

I got to, because she helps you. I feel like Taylor helps you remember that you need paper towels. Like, when you go to Target and you're pushing the car and you're walking around and you're like Taylor's, she's going to say something. She's going to say something where you'd be like paper towel. Yeah. You got to go get the paper towel. Yeah. Start thinking about your ex.

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Speaking of getting at home together, congratulations to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey announcing their engagement. I think that that was big, great, happy news over the week. No, you didn't think. I was happy for them, man. They look like they're happy, like they enjoy each other.

They look like they're having a great time and doing life together. We have to stop this. Congrats to them. No, they look like that. They're having a really good time together and really enjoying each other. We all just need. We need to stop lying myself included on this podcast as far as you were not happy for them.

I was. I was happy for Travis. You were like during this week when he was just quiet by yourself, he was like, you felt a sense of joy that they were. I was so happy. You scrolled past it. It went and then just kept going. No, I was so happy for Travis. I was so happy for them.

I was like, you know what? Good for them, man. Like make it official. Get married. Have beautiful children. and enjoy life. I truly don't think I've ever been happy for a couple that I didn't know.

Really? Like the actual, like, I felt a sense of joy when two people found love unless I knew them. Okay. Like, this is good, I mean, good for them. Yeah. But that's what I said. It's great for them.

Like, I think Travis' mom is happy. I wouldn't say I'm happy. Yes. You know how they're getting married? I don't care. Okay. Yeah, exactly. But yeah.

But don't do that. Don't do that. Because if Mariah and Thug get married tomorrow, you're going to come here crying. So don't do that. Because you did cry when she left the stage when Thug got out. And she's like, yeah. I cried because she cried. She was crying and I was crying.

It was an emotional stadium. Yeah. It was an emotional stadium. Her boyfriend had been locked up. She found out right then at that moment that day that he was getting out. Like, she was crying. It was emotional. I was very happy for her.

Yes. At that moment, I got an emotion of things that I don't. So you're not going to be happy for her if she announces that she got married? Aw. I hope you, like, I don't. Okay, so when I say, like, genuinely happy, like, if I scroll past some shit, like, I'm thinking, like, when I put my phone down, I'm still in a good mood. When I, like, oh, my God, I'm really happy for them.

Like, that changed the trajectory of my day. I don't give a fuck about nobody else getting married. I ain't no ring on my finger. And with that attitude, it won't be. Because I'm not happy for stranger. Exactly. See? You receive what you give. Reciprocity. Into the universe, right? Exactly. You got to be happy for others so that others can be happy.

So you shouldn't work on yourself, set your boundaries, and find your soulmate. You should just like clap for celebrities when they get engaged. So then that way your soulmate will then find you. Well, it's kind of like, because we saw the start of this. We followed it. We kind of like, okay, cool. We thought it was a joke. Yeah, we thought it was a PR stunt and all of these things, which it might still be. But, you know, it's okay. I will say, okay, it did validate podcasting. Why? So I'm happy about that, because he joking, wasn't this whole thing started when he was talking with his brother like about Taylor? Like, nah, she's, she cute.

Didn't that start the whole thing? He was on a podcast. It wasn't because he had four touchdowns that week. He talked about it on a podcast. That had nothing to do with it. That legitimately started the rumor conversation and then they ended up meeting because it became a running joke on the internet. Yeah.

And then love was found. So we put them together. Yeah, I think anything podcast related We are attached to As a genre and a culture And as a family It's a culture

Family, see Family is getting engaged They got engaged in marriage family Now if Travis stops podcasting After he gets married Then he's a culture vulture Yeah, then he's out of here Then we kick that

Yeah, I can't like You used us to go Find love with like I guess some Some people like her Yeah, some people And then you just You left us all hanging

If the entire podcast community Is not invited to the wedding then I do feel some type of way. I feel like that's, we're owed that at least. Like you think Travis and them got the same CPM if we didn't put the legwork in first? Like, do they even,

does Taylor even hear their podcast without us? That's where I'm at with this whole shit. Oh, man. Either way. Where do you, how do you plan a Taylor Swift wedding? That's a big wedding. I was talking to the last time how they even do Thanksgiving.

I would be so scared if I was Travis right now. How do you do a Taylor Swift wedding? I'm sure it's so much less work than you think it would be. Like, like Bono has to marry us. Like, I don't even know how you do this. Like, they're regular people.

They like regular stuff. Sorry, I'll just be regular. Taylor Swift is not a regular person. She's a human. I agree that she is a human. So outside of the security measures, I'm sure she just wants like normal girl stuff. They're going to go somewhere to another country

with people they don't even know who they are. There's no country. will go to where people don't know who Taylor Swift is, but I hear what you're saying. No, you go to some countries and they might not know. Remember when Beyonce and Jay was walking to the Louvre? He's like, who are you? Jay was like, who are you? Homey didn't know, he didn't know who Jay and Beyonce was.

Yeah, but Jay and Beyonce aren't Taylor Swift. And that's no disrespect to Jay and Beyonce. That's no disrespect to Jay and Beyonce. That is crazy. That's a crazy statement right there. I think there would be countries where people wouldn't know Jay Z. I don't know. Taylor Swift's a little different.

I feel like you go to Antarctica and the fucking Penguins going to know who Taylor is. You don't think, if you don't think if Jay and Beyonce go to Antarctica, somebody's going to know who.

Jay was on the end train going to the Barclays and this woman was like, yo, you're famous? And he's like, sort of. I just think that,

I think that as big of a star as Taylor Swift is, if she goes to other countries, she just has this very, like, prototypical aesthetic where it's just like, She could be working in a library, a bookshop.

She could be a barista at a coffee shop. She has this look about it that just fits in. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's like you'll- She could be Sarah Jessica Barker's daughter, more or less. Every white woman type thing. But I mean, she's still Taylor. There's going to be like Navy seals around her.

So everyone's like, who the fuck is that? I think it's easier for Taylor Swift to walk around in Manhattan, kind of like dressed down just chilling like hoodie. Then it will be for Beyonce. No. I think Taylor Swift, I think Taylor Swift could fit in in, in Manhattan way before Beyonce. Oh, well, okay.

So yes, in disguise, right? I think in disguise, yeah. I'm just, no, just dressed down. Like, no glam, just like straight up, like sweats, you know, jacket, whatever, going to, like, the store, get something, like some groceries. So, Maul's being seen before Beyonce. I don't think so, man. So this is the thing. I think Taylor fits in Manhattan way more than Beyonce.

So this is the thing, Maudeyance stands out. we have this thing, right? And this is a, it's not a racist thing, but there's this thing where you know how white people think all black people look alike. Black people kind of think all white people look alike a little bit. And it's like to white people, they will notice Tater. They do. Rory and Pee's look just alike.

That is actually very true. Me and you don't look alike. White people say that me and you are twins all the time. They say I look like mall with hair all the time. All the time. But you don't. I swear to me. That happens.

a lot though. You know, if first day of the pod walked in and if I told y'all this is my older brother Peach, nobody would question it. Nobody. Same parents.

Yeah, this is his older brother. But never questioned it. I'd be like, of course that's your brother. If y'all told me that, I would go and this isn't a racist thing. They must have different fathers or different mothers. Yeah.

Because you guys don't look alike. That's what I'm saying. We're both black. So it's actually, it's not racist. Yeah. But I'm telling you that white people recognize the faces of other people.

Listen, man. Dude, Taylor Swift is also 510. We have to add that factor in. A 510 white woman walking down the street, you're going to sort of look. That's regular Manhattan. You know how many models live here? I know, and you look at the 510 model no matter what. And then you go look at that's Taylor Swift.

I walk right past them at Puerto Vita every week. I get my fucking avocado toast and smoothie. I don't pay them no mind. Taylor might have been sitting in there. Well, that's because you're racist and hate white women. I know. I love white one. I'm just saying Taylor might have been sitting in there.

I didn't even know that was her. If Beyonce sitting in Puerto Vita. But we're also not the gauge of this. I'm like, yo, Beyonce, he's in Puerto Vita getting avocado toast right now. Because she's more relevant to your life. Yeah, that's no. A 13 year old girl. But she's going to catch my eye, though, is what I'm saying.

I'm going to look. If Taylor Swift is sitting down, I'm not, I'll look and just keep like. Do you know why you're going to look because Beyonce is your type and Taylor Swift is not? That's not true. That's not because it's a type thing. She's just going to catch my eye. Like, I'm just going to like glance and look. Like, I'm not going to, it's like a kind of like a, if you have blinders on, like you see

but you don't really like Taylor she fits into the aesthetic a little more like where it's like you're not going to really like where's Beyonce I'm gonna be like oh shit like Beyonce was just standing right there that's Beyonce right there with Taylor she could walk right past you and you wouldn't even really in a non creepy way everyone in this room when they see an attractive black woman looks at them so yes I would yeah but if I would look at oh god that's Beyonce but Taylor's an attractive white woman and I would look at her so I said we shouldn't be the gauge of this even No, I think if I saw Taylor Swift walk down the street, I go, holy shit, this Taylor Swift. And I think everyone around me would do the same thing.

It's a tourist city, too. People got their kids. The kids would immediately be like, this fucking Taylor Swift. A teenager would immediately recognize Taylor Swift before. She couldn't take one step out the M&M store. Whereas I do feel like Beyonce could maybe get to the steps at Times Square before. Who's the person you saw in public for the first time and was like, oh shit? And they were like just like kind of like blending in.

like not like an event that he was doing not like a show Chris Rock when we did our trailer for our Atlanta show that was that was hilarious but I've seen Chris Rock on Bleaker like just walk I'm like that fucking Chris Rock like he does that in Soho and does blend in but everyone is like oh shit if you double take that's Chris Rock he's probably the one I think the most in the city that I've seen um other than that like I don't know if I see celebrities like that yeah I haven't really seen celebrities like the people that that tells

unless we were at an event not like just outside if we were at an event we see them all the time but just outside I really haven't seen them I've seen like famous like TikTokers and content creators

but not really when Beyonce was at Griffin though that was like the wildest shit because I didn't like immediately recognize it was dark and the two twins you know they used to dance wear were going nuts in the middle

and I was like oh shit that's the Beyonce twins which is fucked up because they just don't know their names and then Beyonce was just sitting up on the couch the whole time and Austin sat me like, you did you see Beyonce in the back?

I was like, oh shit. Yeah. That was kind of the most blending shit that I've ever seen. Yeah. But that, it was dark. Seeing Leonardo was like the one for me.

I was like, can't believe you. You can't call me. I was like, this is Leo, dog. And he was just baseball hat on, walking to the club. Like, I'm like,

bro, it's one of the most famous people ever. Like, he just walked in like, he was so how you're doing, man? I was like, you can't just walk past niggas like that, Leo. Like, come on, this is DeCaprio, bro. This is DeCaprio. Are you kidding me?

Like, that was the crazy shit to me. Like, seeing Leo, like, walking in the club, baseball had on just chilling, to me, that was like the flyer shit. Like, okay, like, he just be, he don't need no cameras. He just walk right in, like, go sit down. Next to the 22-year-olds. I mean, you know, just living like... 21 plus clubs.

You know, I mean. Good flowers around you. That's all you need good. Call them flowers. It's need some flower. It's like unicorn blood. It keeps you out. Yeah.

Just put some flowers in the garden. That's all. Just make me look good. You know what I'm saying? Who do we think takes whose last name? One thing I can promise you is Taylor Swift is not losing that last name. All right, but what about, like, legally? Not brand-wise.

She'll always be Taylor Swift on Spotify. Swift Kelsey? Oh, yeah. She got to be Swift Kelsey then. Oh, like, Kelsey. Kelsey Swift? Yeah. Taylor Kelsey Swift.

It's long. It's wordy. Oh my God, bro. I might buy it. Listen, man, Travis was one of the only white players to take a knee during the national anthem. He's progressive. I could see him putting Kelsey Swift on the back of his jersey. He better not. Not that their family would need any money, but, dog.

His father's from a different time in America. That will not be happening. And from Ohio. I can promise you. Paw, pa. He will not. Paup are going for it. I can promise you all that.

right now he don't care swift whatever she do for a living the Kelsey name stays I can promise you that yeah yeah the name got my my father's blood on him is yeah they got my dad his blood on it yeah he ain't losing that name you crazy nah his family ain't going for that but all right of course we're very happy in hopes that they have a long lasting relationship never divorced anything like that all that bullshit they don't they don't they don't need money but I would explain if my My grandfather was still alive. He would be living at me if I would do something like that. But I'd be like, yo, our family name just off those jersey sales.

Like, your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandkids will never need for anything if I put out the swift, feral jersey. Like, it's over. We, we know I have to think about money for the rest of our lives. Yeah, that license and agreement. Like, yeah, we good. Like, I know Taylor sells out stadiums, but that jersey. Imagine that jersey in every seat of the stadium. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I get it. I'm not putting it on our license. It doesn't have to go on our gravestone. Right. Our kids could just still have the Farrell Lies, but for this. But for this license in agreement, yeah. You want to put an asterisk next to it? We can do that.

Yeah. Swift, Farrell, asterisk on the back of the jersey. Like, I'm with you. We got to make it. We got to come to an agreement, though, yeah. I get it. I understand. And continuing with the theme of love, Rory.

It's that time of year. Everybody's growing up. Everybody's, you know, settling down. And, of course. One to have families. Shout out to Bronx, another Bronx legend. No, he's different. He's a different type.

You call everyone a Bronx legend. This is a little different. Yo, French. I get it, family. You know what I'm saying? Listen, it is what it is. Shouts to French Martina, happy for him. And Shika Mara.

Excuse me, if I didn't, you know, put the accent on that. Chichingamara. Princess of Dubai. Mm-hmm. And they announced that they are engaged. So congratulations to French and Shika Mara on their engagement. French is what from like Boston Road or some shit? No, French is from

French is from I want to say What's French, not Boston Road He's from French from I'm close on my side of town Okay, well either way I'm not saying this I know this is absolutely true love And I love everything for them We gotta like go through French's whole career

In the legend that he absolutely is He wasn't even he was holding a camera for Max B at one point Look at he has made it to where he may end up like on a Senate floor at some time. He's going to be a diplomat. He may end up, depending on how Dubai does their shit, the king of Dubai. Well, like, I don't even think Hove could talk to him right now.

Well, this is not... French Montana might be one... It might be 1A French, 1B, Hove. At this point, if you want to talk rappers. He's the greatest of all time. Riches. As far as rappers? Yes.

As far as rapping or... Riches. I don't care. Oh, he's talking about... Oh, you're talking about just retirement plan. Listen, I understand that Hove said he was texting Obama and all that shit. This is different. French Montana may rule the world for all we know after.

No, no, no, but look, he cannot become the king of Dubai. This is the plot to Aladdin. Because the road. I don't think you understand this. But the road, he can't become the king of Dubado. He can't. We've seen the way French has finessed from East Tremont to where he is today. If you don't think French Montana will not find his way,

He went through the Kardashians. He's went through every step a man could go to. He's collecting all that 50 stones. This is. Yeah. I thought Jay-elect fucking with the Rothschilds was the crazy shit I've ever seen in my entire life. I think this might be the number one hip-hop couple that's ever existed. The King of Dubai?

What type of, like, what type of French records you think we're getting? What type of talk we're getting on Mac and Cheese 15? Listen, one thing I can promise you, he will not be the King of Dubai. That's not. He's not going to infiltrate that. No. That's not going to have. happen. No. That's just not going to happen. It's great for him. Hopefully, you know, he's happy.

He's, you know, is him and his wife are going to have, you know, beautiful family and all that. But he cannot be crowned king of Dubai. It can't happen. I don't know, man. It's just different over there with them type of Rome, Rome fell at one point. That is, that is true. That is true. I think French is the one to do it with Dubai. French is going to come to Dubai. Oh, man, everybody getting engaged, baby, Dee. Fuck, that got to do with me. All right. Now see, that's why you ain't going to be in Curisov falling in the pool no more. You don't want to get engaged. Wait, didn't, uh, was it Rihanna or Beyonce? Who performed at some, like, both of them?

You know, imagine if French hire Hov and Beyonce to, for his reception. That's like, now what are we talking when it comes to rap rapper list? What if he hired Beyonce to perform at his reception? That's fine. Now, French, that's different talk. He'll probably hire Hovon. That's different talk. But I don't think, I don't think Hove would do it. I don't think Hove would do it. Shit. I think out of paradise. Shit.

Jacob would like fire up the Puma Jet. We are. You fucking kidding me for that ticket? You crazy as hell. They tell Hove, you're listening, man, we got 20 million for you. Because how much you think. For 20 minutes. How much you think Beyonce?

You think he ain't going? And Rihanna. How much money they got with that shit? Probably around 50 million. Because that was the opening of a hotel. that Beyonce performed that, I think. Oh, yeah, I think Beyonce was an open of a hotel. Rihanna was a birthday party.

Yeah. No, it was definitely a wedding on one of them. Or Rihanna was a, what? I don't know. I think Rihanna was the wedding. Yeah. Rihanna might have been a wedding, not a birthday party. Beyonce was paid $24 million for an hour long performance at the launch of the

Atlanta's Royal Hotel in Dubai. 24 million for an hour. You don't know no niggie that get $24 million an hour. You're like, you kidding me? If French hit Hove, like, y'all, I got 20 a 20 pack for you, Jay. I just want to hear Streets is watching. I just need you to hear it. I just need the handcuff up a long where I'm from, Marcy, son.

What, for 20 ems? If y'all think Hove ain't taking that. Of course he's doing that. That niggas still from Brooklyn. He's hustler. I think he's doing it for 10 amps. I don't think he's doing for 10 amps. How many songs?

Fly to Dubai to record. How many songs? If they pay for the jet, if they cover the jet, if they cover the jet, And they cover a hotel? Dog. No. Hove might do it for 10. 10 million all in.

He's still doing that. What's that jet to do by private? 100 maybe? A little more than that, probably, yeah. Do. 10 million all in. No, we're just saying that French could get off some six shit right now. Mm-hmm.

I don't know. Nine million. She performed like a few records. And if I remember correctly, it wasn't even like she had the whole, like, a million dancers, I feel like they choreographed that shit. She just came out and sang. I'm glad French really isn't in beef right now. But, all right, him and 50 have had a long,

long-lasting up-and-down relationship, if you will. Sometimes you think they're cool, but they're usually not. 50 is taking $10 million to perform give it or not trying at French's wedding. Of course he is. Like, anybody is taking that. I don't care how much beef we got. That cooks the beef. Oh, no, that's over.

How much do y'all do a life pie? number for y'all to do a live pod french montana wedding free show I'll chew that for 15,000 god damn cheap old cheap ass all in all in the Dubai paying for the jet

I might do it to break even yeah my he didn't go lie he's from the Bronx I might put the Bronx coupon on top of it I just be honored to be a guest yeah I put the Bronx discount on top of that for French that's my guy so good go play some live golf

that French owns live golf now Yo, man. Listen, man. Everybody getting engaged, bro. Your name? Which one of us is next? You? Not me.

Which one of y'all is next? Ben there had done that. I feel like I got the T-shirt too. Been there done that one that fun. It was fun at the time. But also we have to put more respect on French's name. The amount of rappers that go out to Dubai and just end up, you know, fucking horrid.

which is fine. I respect it. Yeah. Not saying I would be above that if I got a bag in Dubai and they were like, here is horace. Yeah, some flowers for you. Yeah. He had, like, that's where French's mind needs to be studied of everything that he does and how he capitalized on it.

Like, he's not just going to be friends with the Kardashian. Like, Chloe is going to launch my career. I'm going to get a million Kanye West features I never should have gotten off this opportunity. He went to Dubai and found the Saudi princess. Yeah. How do you even meet that woman? I understand his club and French has hit

hit records but like was she at the club just to see like French perform how you even get tapped how you get past security like I'm trying to like well French has he has he's from that his family is from

Morocco yeah Morocco so he has ties and family over there and that's out of the world so it made me with something like that somebody he knows owns something in Dubai and you know introduced them and things like that

That's how they probably met and, you know, started dating. You know, it's, I can see it happening, definitely. Just because he has family, my dad lived in the DMV, but I never got to meet Chelsea Clinton. Like, just because you, you met Jill. That is true. Yeah. See? Can marry him if you want.

If he'd have me. If he'd have me. I'm not going to do what Monica did, so I don't know if I'm like, you're tight, but. I would like some Clinton blood money. I feel like it'd only be right. Yeah. I'd give a lot of it to Haiti. As you should.

Yeah. No, I would definitely do the right thing with it. Yeah. Because they took it anyway. They stole that money anyway. Give it back to Haiti. And who's my man, the fake dictator that Clinton cleaned off the map? Oh, Gaddafi?

Yeah. Like, I'd find his family overcharged for what they did of the cold crush. Yeah. I just can't wait to see what French does with his money. And I hope it's buy more Spotify bots. French got to have some of these rappers perform at his wedding. He got to get that off. He got he has to like that's such as like I have to like what?

Shout out the French Montana man and his new new fiancee shakea mara. I also the way you describe hove with people and I don't think they fully understand it of this this is not supposed to happen like where hove is from who his friends are this wasn't supposed to happen. Just the greatest story of it. Can you, like, you know some of French's crew. Mm-hmm. Some of the scariest human beings I've ever seen in all of New York City history, which is saying something. Mm-hmm.

That wedding is going to be nuts. Crazy. You'll fly in all of the Bronx. Got to take the Bronx to Dubai. What if they do it in America? Nah. I can't go in that. No way.

No way. That's more of a stunt. Like, we can do it for free out here. No, it's not. No, the stunt is doing it. No, they're going to, like, buy Chicago or something. Nah. Do that shit right in Dubai.

Had that shit, illustrious, luxurious, at the highest level of luxury. Yeah, man, shout out to French, man. Cocaine City, huh? And shout out to her. I heard French is a good guy, so she got her a good husband. Shout out to her, man. Every interaction I've had with French, she's been a very, very kind person and a good dude. Every interaction I've had with him.

Do you think Eric Adams is invited? Because that's kind of been like his, you know, Batman and Rock. That's definitely his man. That's his man. That's French man right there. You know he in there. He's going to bring Dreamdoll. He's going to go on this.

He's going to go on the city's dollar and embezzled. You know Eric Adams looking at this shit like a lick. He's going to find a way. This may be part of his campaign of like, you see I got the ties with Dubai now. He had French and was like, yo, so what's the date so I can block it out? For sure, 100%. We'll be there. We were talking about Mariah the scientist and Thug at one point.

Did you hear the thug interrogation? Yes, I did. clip um so obviously you know the the clip with young thug in interrogation room the audio came out and uh you know a bunch of people ran to the internet and you know they're like oh young thug did bad he's a snitch he's a rat you know you know how people do it so my my take on it um is the first thing i thought was you know was the guy uh peewee was he um was what did he have to say And he hit the internet and was like, yo, Thug didn't snitch on me. So I was like, okay, if the guy that allegedly got ratting on is saying that Thug didn't rat on him, no matter how we feel, we heard an audio clip.

But the thing is, people don't take into account the things around it. When was the peewee guy arrested? Was he in jail before that interrogation or did that interrogation cause him to get arrested? that's the whole difference in the entire thing. If he was in jail before that, if they already had him arrested and whatever they had him in there for,

it's tough to put that on Thug and say Thug is a snitch because they already have him. They already arrested him. I already investigating whatever they have him in custody for. And then what Thug was saying was they say that Pee We did this

or I heard that this is what they're saying. Like, I don't know. So to me, again, if the guy that he's saying ratted on him is saying he didn't. And then if, you know, again, we don't know the dates. If the dates align and Peewee was already in custody when Thug was going through that interrogation, it's hard to put that on Thug. It's hard to put that label on them. It's a lot of, you can't play with that. You can't just throw that moniker on somebody so quickly without really knowing everything that's going on.

That's why I stand on. Again, this is just off the clip now. Now, if that interrogation thinks he said in that interrogation caused them to go and find pee-wee and arrest him and lock him, then you look at Thug and a whole different lens, like, yo, that's crazy. But if he was already in there and they got him arrested and locked up and they already know what he did and it's already been announced what he's locked up for, then it's like, okay, who don't know that that's what they're saying?

That's on the news that that's what he's locked up for it. Every, that's public information at that point. Thug is not, in that case, he would not be given the police information that they don't already have. Okay, civilian, so I'm asking you questions in this regard. So, all right, then why would gonna be a rep? He took a plea. I understand

that he said that YSO was a gang. Nothing was used in any case whatsoever. Nobody did any type of time. Anything gonna said, it only ended up on the timeline. It never got brought up in court and he took a plea deal. Why would he be one then?

Because if this is the case of thug, and I listen to it. It's not it's been in police to some degree, but you're still saying something. You're still speaking to the police. From what I remember in the Thug-G-gunner situation, well, number one, thug is saying gunner's a rat. That's number one. The guy that is allegedly being snitched on is saying that gun had ratted on him. Pee-wee in this situation is saying that thug did not rat on it.

So let's just start there. So is that the rule is who decides? No, the thing is you don't know, again, we don't know if peewee was in custody when Fair, no, no, I understand all that. If that interrogation calls them to go and get peewee and arrest them. We don't, that's what I'm saying. That, that to me is going to make all the difference in the world in this situation.

Like, that's all I'm saying. I don't think that, you know, I'm saying, you can label somebody that if what he gave them was already public information and the dude was already in custody. It's like, okay, so what is what helping, what snitching is thug doing in that situation? I mean, I guess I just, I feel like the rules get, the goalpost moves all the time for everything. And I'm, again, outside looking and asking, if Gunna said something and it never put anybody away whatsoever, never got brought up in court, the same way thug in this interrogation, none of that led to anyone. Hold on. Be clear though. I'm on the side of, he should have never been in that interrogation. Okay, that's what I was good. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can, it will be. was against you and you can have an attorney present.

I had the right to me. I wouldn't have been saying anything. You're not interrogated me for two hours. I don't have nothing to say for two hours. So again, so that, that does look away. But if he's in there, he's not giving him any information that got anybody arrested or incarcerated, you can't put that label on him is what I'm saying. And then again, the guy that you're saying he snitched on is saying he didn't snitch on me.

Yeah. So I'm saying no matter what you feel about it, if the dude that's locked up, you know what and incarcerated to say he whatever he said didn't have nothing to do with me like he didn't snitch on me when we can't sit here and say that he is okay uh yeah all right i'll use an example outside of gang shit i remember when john goddy junior gottie got outed for sitting down with what myrda his son when he was on trial there's a 302 it exists and goddy was talking to the police and it was about people everyone was dead or like it wasn't true or whatever everybody i know in howard beach calls it and snitch nobody went to jail nobody nobody not one person was hurt by what

john goddy junior did in that 302 meeting but he everyone i know in his neighborhood refers to him that way me personally as a civilian i'm like well nobody went to jail at all like he talked about crimes Everyone's dead in this. Like to me, I'm like... That's another thing. People feel like if you snips on somebody that's dead, if you give interrogation and you give information on somebody that's dead, like, oh, yeah, he killed that person or he sold them drugs. People look at that.

Like, that's a nostic because the person, who's going to go to jail for that? He's dead. He's in the cemetery. I mean, Cardi B was 10 toes. Was she? Cardi B. Ratton? Maybe, D. She took the stand, right?

No, all right. Niggas. Niggas coming for her. My bitch says she ain't do it. Oh, she on the D. You're playing defense. Yeah. All right.

No, I mean, I know this wasn't a deposition, but that's like one thing. I don't want to be in a deposition because it usually involves a lot of fucking money and being sued. But I am so jealous of celebrities that have so much fun during these depositions. Like, Wayne's deposition was the funniest thing I've ever seen. Justin Bieber's was the funniest one. Dave Portnoy and Michael Rappaport was fucking insane. Like, Cardi's sitting there. This was one of the more entertaining clips I've seen in quite some time.

And I don't even fully know this entire backstory of assaulting a security guard. So let me give it to you. Okay. So back in 2018, I want to say, when Cardi was around 13 to 14 weeks pregnant with culture, nobody knew. She, the doctor's office that she goes to or I don't know whether it was a new doctor, but they shut down their office. They're in a building, right? Obviously, because in New York, nobody has their own fucking offices.

They're in a building. The office is in a building. She goes in the building is going to the office where the doctor has shut down the doctor's office for her because she's a celebrity and a security guard

for the building spots her. Allegedly the security guard seen her and was like oh my God that's Cardi B and was like on the phone and then Cardi looked over at her and just kept, you know,

shuffling and kept moving. So then the girl then says again oh my God that's Cardi B and now has her phone and is pointing her phone at Cardi and Cardi's like yo why are you recording me like you're supposed to be security

for the building you're recording me That's crazy. And the girl basically was like, oh, my bad, and stopped. And then she started following Cardi to the doctor's office. Like, it's just trailing behind Cardi, following Cardi. So then Cardi is like, yo, like, what the fuck? Like, get the fuck out my face.

Bitch, why the fuck you following me? Ain't you fucking supposed to. You know how Cardi talk. Like, ain't you fucking supposed to be security? So the girl allegedly then gets in her face. And they're like, arguing back and forth. Like, she has Cardi, like, against the wall. Cardi's saying, I felt fear.

Like, I'm pregnant, so I can't do anything. This girl is twice the size of me. And they're, like, waving each other, waving fingers in a face. yada yada. Somebody who works for the doctor's office apparently came in between them and kind of broke it up and got Cardi in the office. The woman is suing, if I'm not mistaking, for emotional damages. She said that Cardi like traumatized her and that Cardi assaulted her. So that is what the lady is suing for. So Cardi's up on the stand. Like I never fucking touched her. I was pregnant. Like there's nothing I can do. The lawyer is doing a terrible job. Whoever

her name, I think her name is Amani Ellis, whoever her lawyer is is doing a terrible job. Because his, what I, what I think he's trying to do is trying to piss Cardi off so that Cardi snaps and cusses him out because he's on there asking Cardi about her wigs. Like, oh, let me see your wigs. Let me see your nails. You consider it's black and shit. Yeah, like, it's like he's trying to rile her up. But Cardi isn't falling for it. Cardi's just kind of like giggling on the Stanley what the fuck is going on. And even the stuff I saw, like the judge did step in at certain points. Like, why are you asking? These questions have nothing to do what the fuck we're here for. Yeah. So it's, you know, it's like Cardi has said, my lawyer is a Jew, he's going to chew up

bottom charges. Carly don't lose when it comes to when it comes to court cases. Yeah, this is just ridiculous. Like, we know what this is. Like, this is just another one of those situations where somebody is looking for some type of damages, hoping that Cardi even settles out for 500K. You know, that type of shit. We're just like, just to go away. But she's obviously not doing that. She's going to court. She's taking time out of her schedule in the midst of an album, rollout, all of these things because she know that this is just complete bullshit. So, I mean, you know, hopefully this will be over soon that Carter can get back to doing what she do.

This is where I will actually defend the celebrities and do feel for them in this situation. Like, this is going to cost Cardi outside of time, what you're saying? Money. Money. Like, I got to pay. Ah, shit. How much do you think her lawyer probably charges per hour? Like, I got to pay this amount of money for this bullshit because a security guard,

the person that's supposed to secure the building was following me. Right. With a camera. Like, wait, what the, what the, Where was Cardi's, where was her security at? I don't, it's a good question. I don't know if her security, her, I don't think her security was with her at the time. I think it was, now it was early in her career.

Not only was early in her career, I think she didn't want to attract attention. Cardi was Cardi was Cardi. Well, Cardi was Cardi, yes. But I think her security was probably outside. She's going into the Cucci doctor. Like once she's in the building, the off, they shut the doctor's office down for her. Like, I'm sure they don't, they think she's fine, you know? Yeah.

So because bringing security, which also just brings attention. Like I'm probably, she's probably just in there trying to sneak in. Yeah, but it also keeps you away from bullshit like this. Yeah, very true. Because your security guard could have kicked that phone out of her hand. Yeah. Well, so, you know, I mean, not literally, but I'm just saying. No, should have stopped that from happening to it.

It's like, and where's the, don't they have cameras in the hospital? It wasn't a hospital. Oh. Because it's a private doctor's office. So it's in like a building. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. I'm assuming that there's no cameras.

I mean, either way, like, you know, this is where I feel like sometimes with America, freedom is too much. You shouldn't be allowed to follow somebody. No. Like, that shouldn't, oh, well, first member, I could do this. Oh, no. I can follow someone all I want. Follow me. If you follow me, I should be allowed to.

Yeah, I should be allowed to punch on your face. Just like, get away from you. Yeah. I should be allowed to do whatever I need to do to keep you away from me. You in my face yelling and screaming and I'm pregnant, I have every right to cut your throat. Yeah. If you have the freedom to follow me, I'm, I have the freedom to follow me. I should have the freedom to knock you the fuck out for doing it.

To stop you from following me. Yeah, absolutely. But you know what's crazy is I think Cardi probably would have done that, but she was pregnant. So she was terrified. Yeah. Yeah. This sounds like it'll be over soon, though. I think this would be.

And also, like, let's just be honest, I think that this is great free promo for the album. Cardi looks great. She's taking up the news cycles. But I hate that she does have to go through this. I can't imagine some big-ass girl following me around and getting in my face and I'm pregnant. and I can't, like, defend myself. And then also, like, what's your end goal? You get a video of...

No, the end goal is this. That's probably why she started getting in her face and don't like that. I think you're giving this security guard too much credit. I don't think this is a plot where it's like, I'm going to follow her and then sue her for emotional damage. I think somebody got in her ear after the incident and was like, yo, you know you could just sue her, right? Of course.

That's exactly what happened. Absolutely. I think she wanted to get a video for her own fucking Instagram. I don't think she was even thinking I could say, tell us at TMZ. She was probably just like, y'all, I just want to get a video her. Yeah. No, I'm not talking about the video part, but I'm talking about once Cardi said, like, started cussing at her and shit like that, I think that's when I was like, hmm. So she's saying, she's saying Cardi put hands on him?

Yes. But the girl that's testifying for Cardi, the lady who worked in the doctor's office, she said, I got in front of Cardi and like the girl was facing me and actually I got a scratch on my forehead. So I think the girl, Amani, actually scratched me. So it's kind of like, no, she was being the aggressor. And she said, she said, Cardi's back was up against the wall. Like Cardi wasn't even, like, she had her back up against the wall. Yeah, throw this shit out, man. This is a waste of time.

If I'm a judge them, I would just be sitting there like, all right, wait, so you followed? Yeah, like, what is? This would have never been a thing if you didn't fucking follow them. This is just wasting people's money. This is wasting people's money in time. Like, this is the things that we need to stop going to court for. Like, this shit can be thrown out.

Oh, yeah. Get out of here with this shit. Like, oh, taxes pay on this shit too. Yeah, like, this is just, it's a waste of fucking money. Like, it's a circus. It's a fucking. show like throw that shit out get that shit out of here let Cardi go on with her life

and let that other girl go back to securing the McDonald's or whatever she was at. What was she at? She lost her job too. That's why she's that's another thing she's suing for because she lost her job as you fucking... You should. Yeah, like people are fucking crazy man. Whatever.

But either way, go revisit that Justin Bieber deposition. What fuck I said it? This is a film you said? You think Justin Bieber still says the N-word? No No I don't think so The answer is yes

Is funny as fuck No I don't think so And this is going to be Terrible because I'm not excusing his behavior As a child But I know he was a fucking

Celebrity kid And the people around him Taught him that shit He ain't bright that melody You want to know who he's around now Little flip Niggas Yo

I was sure him and Haley He around more niggas now than when he wrote that beautiful rendition of he was fucking 12 years old he around some real you know his head whoever the fuck was filming that was sound like a white lady laughing like they taught him that yeah but i'm just saying do you think he says the word i'm not saying was he laying down any wow i think he probably i okay let me be careful i'll wear this i wouldn't be surprised if he said racist shit in his home like we all do but i don't think that no no no no i'm not saying he says racist shit does he use the end word i don't think so i don't think so i don't think

that Justin Bieber does that. I think Justin Bieber's been in the game too long. I think once he started hanging with Usher, Puff, little Fizz and everybody, like. Like, if he's out, like, how the paparazzi was following him, and he was like, you know what I'm saying? Like, is it not clocking to you? I'm standing on business?

You don't think at some point if the cameras are on, he's like, yo, what the fuck are you niggas doing? Like, why are you following me? If y'all think Bieber didn't get that off, y'all, he'd be around some hood niggas, man. But so does so many white people that don't. That's the reason I don't. don't say it. It's not because I'm on a moral high ground. I was around a bunch of

people who would smack the fuck out of me if I said it. Right, but we know that he's, we saw the song. Yeah, but he was a child. And I'm not excusing what he did. He's an adult now. You use that word more as an adult than you do as a child. You know better as an adult than you do as a child. Yeah, cool. So he's not laying down tunes to nigger no more. He's not playing the banjo getting nigger off. But if you, I'm talking about in a regular setting in his crib with his homies smoking, watching the game. You think that he'll be like, shoot the ball, nigga? I don't, I don't.

Y'all tripping, man. I don't think. I don't think. This is what Daniels Caesar trying to do to me, and I won't stand for it. I won't stand for it. I'm saying he's not laying down vocals anymore. But you think all white people say, you think Rory says it. He definitely says it.

Where do I say the N-word? Home alone? I just be in my house. You think I care that much about that word. That's just be in my house. I just have to say the word. Yeah, you look outside, make sure nobody's there. You check all the parameters.

You go upstairs on your deck. You make sure nobody's look. And then you go down to- You think I care that much to say that word. Yeah. Then you go downstairs, you turn mob deep on and you get your ends off,

make it? Yeah. Absolutely. Because we can't say that just to be... Huh? You think Rory whisper them? Whisp them? Whisp?

But white people can't wait to yell niggie. I think every white person that's going to the most secluded place in their neighborhood and yelled nigger at least once in their life. Roy just screamed into his pillow. Roe's screaming into his pillow. He goes into his closet

and screams it to his pillow. Every time more later. What itch is that satisfy? What am I doing by screaming? I don't know because I'm not white, so I don't know, but I know I know it's an itch that y'all have to satisfy at some point. Because it's kind of like, you I just have to get it over. I've been self-editing to say it. You don't want to call nobody

the word, but you definitely say it because you're hearing some of your favorite songs. You know what I'm saying? Like you, so you hear the word. I've been self-editing. The only only time I think I could be accused of it, I guess would be reading sometimes. Not out loud because you guys know I can't do that. But you're inside throwing your inside voice. What is it sound like?

Is it your voice or is it like another voice that says it? Because if it's your voice in your head that say it, you said it. But does your voice in your head have a tone or a sound? It doesn't. Yeah, it's yours. Wait, my voice is your inner. No. Your inner voice is your voice now.

It's your nature. No. Mine is not my. It's not anyone's voice. How do you change your inner voice? It's your voice. No, it's not my voice is different. There's not a voice. Who's not a voice is it? Who's voice is it? We look at the fucking definition of voice. Voice is tone. There's no tone in my head. There's no tone. There's no tone. You can hear the word. It's the hardy are. You can hear the word as you're reading it in your head. Yeah, but it's not a tone. It's not a sound. It's not a voice is it. John Leguizamo? Everything's Morgan Freeman. Who's voice would it be? Voice, the sound producing a person.

versus larynx and utter it through the mouth as speech or song. Your inner thoughts have no voice or tone or anything. It's, your inner voice is more of a metaphor. I think, alone in the forest. Can you still hear it?

If a white person yells, alone in the forest, do the trees hear it. Yes. There's so much layers to that joke that I'm going to leave the fuck alone. Yeah, yeah. But see,

only a racist white man would even think like that. You see what I'm saying? Or a history buff. He's thinking about a. From the trees. You don't think he says the word? He says it? I'm saying that there was a lot of people that were not heard from when white people were screaming

that word in the forest. That's all I'm saying. I think Bieber says it. I think he still uses that word. No, because it was my man, little Fizz, when they used to blame all his shit. When Justin Bieber would be on his bullshit, they blame it on Little Fizz, right? From B2K? Little Twist.

Like Little Fis from B2K? Like, what the fuck is going on? Low Fist. So I've actually DMed about because I've talked about that, like, early podcasting. and he'd DM me and thanked me for that because I was like, yo, every time Justin Bieber do some bullshit, they just try to blame it on this young black kid for no reason.

I do think Lil Twist got Justin back to the proper place. Like, you can't move this way. You can't harm, like your vocal exercises before you go on stage, you cannot, you know, harmonize the N-word that way. I think we see videos. I think Twist got him back into.

We see videos of sold-out shows with a bunch of white kids. There's a fact. And on them, songs that all these artists be up to sing, the N-word is all through all them songs. We don't hear silence during those parts. Pete, do you remember when we were at Made in America in 6-9 was the surprise guest? Do.

This is what I'm saying. We have video proof of it. I have never seen 100,000 white people scream the N-word at that. That's what I'm saying. We song with Merrill, too, and I went to the graduation, not graduation, late registration tour. Kanye at the gar. Yo, y'all can say it. everybody said it.

Blue the Rufel. Blue the Roofall. Blue the roof. This is what I'm saying. So you think when Bieber is alone in his beautiful estate. You could assume Patrick Ewing was in the card at that time.

You don't think Bieber says that alone on his beautiful estate? He doesn't get that. Y'all are fucking crazy, man. As a white, I just don't think it's a you hang around that black people, you just don't say it. You don't call them that.

Obviously. But if fucking mob D. comes on at Justin Bieber's house you think he's self-editing on fucking granted I had white friends growing up that hung with just me and black people and they would say and black people wouldn't like care it was a bunch of fucking coke and weed dealers like they didn't get I just don't say it and never said it yeah I get it I believe I believe I don't but it's okay all right all right how do you think I've said it outside of screaming on my pillow or a mob

can you promise like give me the context of where I said the other can we shake on something right now for sure we look each other If I die before you die At my funeral Get up at the podium And say This is my niggas We sick on it

We're sick on it I'm not doing that shit We're sick on it Pete Hey if I die before Rory He's allowed to get up At the podium and say Damn this was my niggas man

And nobody can't get mad That's a fact Wait He got his first impasse for me All right Can I remix it and quote Paid and full instead Like because you just died

Niggas die day, B. That's a fact. Get it off. Get it off. You are a tear. Man, why you're crying? Why are you crying?

Niggas diving, baby. Yo, the weight of pin gun drop. Yo, that's going to be the most litters funeral ever if Rory get that off. He got the right to. Do you think I would ever do that at most? We shook on it. That's my wish.

You can't say that and look big in his eye. First of all, out of all the people that would be at that funeral, I think Biggs would laugh the hardest. 100. You can't be disappointed if you don't get it off. Get it off, man. What the fuck is the problem? Jesus Christ.

I feel like in that somber moment, too, like walking into the church, Hop would pull me aside. Like, you know, you know you made a promise, right? Get it all. You got to, got to get it all. They got to kick you out the N-O-I. No, they, what? The N-O-I?

If you think the N-O-I thinks the N-word is the problem with the word. Like, what? That is the last thing they're thinking about. Fuck that. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.

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Boots, Boose, Boose, Boose. I got a home girl who I honestly think this bitch is fucking weird. I feel like every time I show any type of interest in a nigga, all of a sudden she is overly interested in this nigga. The first time it happened, I let it ride

because I'm like, okay, you know what? Maybe I misread the signs. Maybe he was actually trying to talk to her. Like, whatever. Second time, I kind of said something like, damn girl, like, you know, oh girl, we can both have him. okay, mind you, we both get niggas.

So it's never a fact of, you know, I'm like, okay, cool. Like, it is what it is. If a nigga chooses, he choosing, I don't have a problem with that. But when I go out of my way to tell you, like, girl, like, I'm on that with this nigga. You was not showing no interest. And now it would be one thing if he came up to you and he was trying to fuck on you. You're going out of your way to fuck on niggas after I tell them not fuck them, but just saying, you know what I'm saying? You're showing you in the club doing the fucking most.

the third time this bitch is fucking at the party, bending her ass over in front of my nigga doing all the fucking most. And I pull straight to the side like bitch, are you trying to fuck my man? Like, what are you doing? Oh no, oh no. Now this bitch is in his fucking DMs.

Talk about let's go get noodles together. What the fuck is going on? Should I stop the fuck out of this bitch or what? I'm going to fuck reviews right now. No, we have to get her in the Zoom room. You know what? Never mind. I already know the answer.

But yeah. Should I beat her ass? We have to get her on the Zoom Zoom Room. She's hilarious. Yo, first of all. And I kind of want to get the Homegirl on the Zoom Zoom room too. Yeah, they might have to do a CoZo. Yeah, but separate places though.

Yeah, I don't want it to go to blows. Like COVID. Like the Versus, yeah. Well, first, it's not your friend. We'll start there. I mean. This is real, though, Mo. Don't act.

You've been in the streets for a very long time. Okay, so this is why we probably need her in the ZoomZo room. because I want to know, because the friend said we could both fuck them. Have they slept with a guy at the same time before? Have they had a three-sum together before? I think they were saying we could just both fuck him separately. I don't think it was a three-sum question. We don't know.

Fair. I'm just saying from what I'm grabbing. I want to get her in the Zoom-Zoom room so we could have this conversation because I want to know that. She slept with guys that you dated before. Maybe she doesn't think that it's a problem because you never expressed that it was a problem. Right? Maybe she's thinking like, oh, it's cool. This mom girl, she know how we get down.

Like we, we fuck these niggas. They're for everybody, girl. You know the, you know the colloquialisms that girls throw out there when they want to not be whores. Like, girl, these niggas for everybody. I know. But I do think it's actually worse with men because we feel like we have to say that. But we'd be liking them.

Like, come on, nah, dog. Just she's for everybody. Like, but she was like, nah, I like her. Go home and cry. Don't, yeah, don't. Scream the N-word in the pillow. Um. Skinny news!

So I think that goes on both sides Because women now in this day and age I feel like say that too Like oh he's meant for everybody Like no you like you like express You have to express So that's what it sounds like But she said at the club

She was like why are you doing that That's my man's like Yeah but again that's what I'm saying I think that the friend is looking at it like girl You know how we get down like we We have fun with all these things I love that friend group That friend group

So I'm saying Maybe it's getting to a point where you just don't want to share guys anymore you don't want to have the same guys in common anymore did you tell your friend that? Because if you had that conversation with her and then she continues to do it, oh, then you got rights to put hands

and don't do whatever you want to do. But if you didn't, you're just mad at the way she's moving with guys that you're dating, you've got to let her know that you don't, you're not trying to move like that no. Wrong answer forehead. No, she's wrong.

Her friend is wrong. Why are she wrong? Because she wasn't even interested in the guy until I was. You pulled that conclusion. That was, you just pulled some added information into nothing. What did I add?

We're going with the information that she said and the information that she said is her exact words every time i like a nigger my friend suddenly also likes the same nigger she also said that they fucked the same niggas before but she was saying it wasn't like they that they walked up at the club together and she said hi to him and she said hi to him she just started liking these guys because she's dealing with them yeah you got the same taste no she's saying she wasn't even wouldn't even be interested yeah it's like it's like Oh, the girl I used to talk to him or girl he was in my DMs before, like that type of shit. And also is, if you know, like friends.

Her being in her, I guess like this is the newest guy. Yeah. So now she's in her DM's that's brutal date. That's crazy. That's wild. That's a little wild. That's a little wild. First of all, sliding in another, sliding in a nigga DM trying to entice him for a date.

Crazy as fuck anyway. Fuck the fact that this my nigga. You entice and a nigga ask him to go get noodles with you. Like, any whom. What's wrong with that? And then I top of that. Yeah, ask a guy on a date. And then you know I'm talking to somebody.

You know I'm talking to somebody. and you bending your ass over in his face. See, she's not afraid of you. See, and it's the problem right here. He ain't afraid of you and she ain't afraid of you. Okay, but also don't encourage her to beat her ass to make her afraid. Why not? Because we're going to end up like Cardi with a deposition because we encourage some violence.

This is an entertainment podcast. Everything we say is for entertainment purposes only. And everybody whoop in everybody. Beat her ass, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Like, we won't, like, my friends would never, my friends would never do no shit like that. They know I don't play about my niggas. If I really like a nigga, bitch, I will kill you.

Like, don't. They know that. My friends know that. Me, my best friends though. Have you ever had an ex-friend do that before, though? I have had people in my life who the moment a guy liked me suddenly, oh, I used to talk to him or he was in my DMs or I've had that happen before. I've had that happen before. But now to go as far as to continue to pursue him once I have put a stamp on him, no, I have not been tried as such.

Okay. I've been asked, like, yo, like the marriage. I know you used to talk to him like you like him because my friends know to want the untouchables you know the untouchables but the touchables touch them niggas I don't give a fuck I'm always putting money bags under all my untouchables That's because all yours is untouchable though

You can't put the untoucher you can put the franchise tag on every player Some of these hoes gotta get traded I got a lot of max contract Yeah but some of these holes got to get traded sometimes Like you understand she ain't doing what she's supposed to be doing for the team no more Send over here we got a jersey for Nah I retired that number though For your franchise

That number's still available. I started this league called the big three. Where retired players can keep playing. Oh, man. I would love to get this young lady in the Zoom Zoom room so we could further talk through this and kind of like, you know, get more of the backstory. But yeah, that ain't your friend. That isn't your friend.

And honestly, you need to watch out for her because she'll ruin some shit with you and a nigga. Because don't fuck around and cheat and think that you're going to keep that a secret. Or don't fuck around and be. be flirting with another nigga and think that that's going to be a dirty mac she gonna run that she's gonna dirty mac quickly i like women at dirty mac though that's nasty i like that no you can't trust that bitch i was so you know you can but i like i was such like a young naive pup back in the day of when her friend would start talking to me i would think it was a setup and then

like i later just realized like oh no these are just tours yeah like oh they're not actually friends this is yeah they don't like each other but i used like really like all right this is a setup Let me like... Especially when they be like twin, twin, twin. Like, no, you just... Y'all don't like each other. And maybe that's like, uh, self-deprecation or insecure. It was like, all right, both these bitches don't want to fuck me.

I think one's trying to set me up to see if I, what I would do in the situation. And I overthought it. No, she just wanted to fuck do. That's so terrible. Like, I'm so happy for the circle that I have. That's so terrible. I should, I've told you guys, I was never that guy. I used to get mad at my friends when it would just be a, a chick.

I was just sort of fucking. And they would hit on her. She'd come to me like, yo, why you think it's okay that your friends could try to, you know, DM me or come at me. And I would talk to them like,

no, I love my host. Like, I'm not, I'm not that guy. I want to make, I'm, everyone's not for the team.

Like, I'm never been that person. I really, like, really like the people I have sex with. I don't, I'm not passing goes around. I'm just not that guy.

I love it makes me less of a man. I just, I've never been that. It makes me less of a man. Yeah, you're not a man. You're not a man. You're not a man. You're not a man.

You're not a man. It's okay to like women. It's okay. What they want you to like, niggas? It's okay to like women. No, it's okay to like women. But you're not a man until the woman that you like, you see her getting pounded out by another guy.

You got to stand in and deal with that shit. Oh my God. But I've never, I would never run a train. No, I'm not so you got to run a train. I'm just saying like, not like really, but you just find out that she's fucking other man. You got to stand in. Oh, no. That's separate.

I think it's more just the, if I'm deal, like, yeah, because then that like makes you look kind of crazy too. Because even, I don't think every girl that has sex with me is a whore that me, that should just be passed to the team. No, yeah, not okay, yeah. And it makes you look nuts when you weren't even the one saying that. Now it looks like you told all your friends like, yo, if y'all want, y'all shit was crazy. If y'all want it, y'all should get at her. I'm just. It puts you in a really weird place.

And I've had like real arguments my friends that have. and this is in our 20s when we were immature and shit yeah yeah like you know you love these hoes though it's some girl from the road like you just it's not that like it's just disrespectful to me like I'm just I don't know my thing is if I think that as men as men we all know the women that we can do that with

like my boy wouldn't have to say nothing like you all like you all like I like I would never even attempt to talk to a girl my friend was talking to if I knew she wasn't that type of girl fair and I'm not mad at that point at all but I also have the other mentality of if I saw my friend on the road fuck on the chick nowhere in my head do I go I need that too yeah not yeah yeah even if even if I know that girl is that type of girl and we could all hit I'm just I'm not into that yeah I was never a fan of that like no so it's it's both sides of that coin

where I'm like first of all don't do that because now I got this girl asking me why my friends are saying sexual things to her because now it looks like I said it was okay and number two why are you even trying to fuck girl like that's gross to me because you put the stamp you that nigger i'm not put the stamp on a bitch she that bitch now that's never been me what's up i appreciate you real bolstered that pussy i didn't it was a poll the whole shit was a post it diggers is crazy man i just be thinking about shit that guys be doing like yo dudes is crazy women be like that too like women like i man my group chad says some shit bitches be like, yo, I ain't gonna lie, you gotta try this.

Your bitch is wild. But why you don't never bring them to the office, though? Like, the ones that'd be like... They don't want to try you. Yeah, because I was saying that with you. Like, yeah, if you bring them, that's different. I don't want mall's sloppy seconds, but like, whatever you want to bring them. You fucked enough of my friends, you don't think.

I have not fucked one of your friends in my life. Oh, you'd be fucking people and they become my friends. Yeah, see? So you want to buy it correctly? Can we friend that correctly? Yeah, so you're the friend in this situation. Like, how are the friend? You befriending women that Rory slept with after he slept with them.

And then she tried to fuck him after. Yeah. Stop. Stop that. Nah, you be trying to lick cat. Don't do that. Oh my God. There's been at least four.

Four is so dramatic. All right, fine. Seven. All right. Baby D. Look me in my face and tell me you ain't never, ever been sexually attracted to no woman that Rory slept with. Exactly. Close your eyes.

Close your eyes and stay your prayers, nigga. That's not fair because she looked like when Amara poops. Me and the same type Exactly. And you befriended, you befriended The type. No, but I don't befriend the ones I want to Fuck. We just stay. We're not doing that. See He like cool bitches. I like cool, bitches be cool. Dude, do you do.

Shit, you don't have some shit I looked at once or twice. Yeah, that's all right. You're just too secretive with your bitches. No, I'm not secretive at all. If you ask me, I'll tell you, I ain't going to offer the information. But if you back with Marr, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my friend. Yeah. My old work just asked Damaris, are you compliment to me as a friend or as a lesbian?

And what DeMaris said, lesbian? Okay, see, no. He said, lesbian. He's going to cut that out. Lesbian. She don't watch this podcast. That's not what we're saying. Especially at this hour in the pod.

The clock stop. You think she stays for voicemails? I just don't want that to construe because that's not. But yeah. Yo, what's the-in-a-d-er's been posting? I told you all before. I went on a whole IG search for some of DeMaris's friend. Maris has never passed a friend of me in her life, which to me is crazy.

Because my friends don't wouldn't like me. They'd like more. I like go to my, like, y'all know, like. I'll be seeing the friends. I'll be seeing the niggas her friends date. And then like for her to say they didn't say they wouldn't fuck me as crazy. I think. I think out of the two of us, her friends would, you're more their type, I think.

No. Oh, really? Oh, tell that one with all the followers. Let me know. First of all, Marl is a terrible. Why would they, it's horrible. Ma, it's horrible. horrible he is. I'm a terrible person.

Yeah. What do you mean by that? Mall. How? You're, first of all, y'all both misogynistic, so I'm not just going to put that on mall. That's like a-first-all, that's a lie. Misogynistic? I love bitches. I just don't think that women should be Uber drivers. There's plenty of other, like, opportunities for work out here. Like what?

Whatever, whatever your heart desires, just don't pick me up when I call Uber. Actually, I was talking, I was talking to Josh earlier. You're misogynistic. I was talking to Josh earlier, right? And when, I guess when y'all did the Patreon episode that hasn't come out yet and y'all were trying to say, y'all laugh, You laughed at me being liberal. Josh said if I was liberal, you laughed at me being liberal. Yeah, you're not.

And you know what I was thinking about because I told Josh, I was like, yeah, feminism be a little funny sometimes. I was joking. But they say that women can do all the men, all the jobs that men can do. But like, why are y'all doing our jobs? Because I feel like sitting up here talking for a living is a woman's job. There's life. Why is podcasting oversaturating?

That should be a woman's fucking feel. Why are y'all taking a job? Malcolm X spoke for a living. Was that a woman's job? He was out here in the street It's a ladybug That's good luck You about to kill it?

That's a ladybug? Yeah Can't kill a ladybug Oh sorry I don't know what it was Big ass mosquito But like no he was like You know what I'm saying

I'm out here moving And grooving in the streets And moving y'all towards like violence Like You guys up here talking about pop culture Oh you let the white man Plague your mind And who Malcolm X was

See I don't like that That's first of it Detroit Red You know what he was doing before that He was reformed though Being a man he was being a man Pimbing a hose

is a real man Yeah So when I try to pimp holes You're talking I'm a terrible person He's basically Malcolm X And he's from Malcolm X Bulls He's definitely Malcolm X

Can't spell Malcolm Without mall So like Yeah so back to how I'm a terrible person Okay How am I a terrible person Demaris

Maw Since you're saying I'm a terrible What makes me terrible? You remember one time We sat This is this is in the beginning of our relationship We sat here

We weren't here We were in our original office And I said, Maul, when do you think you're going to settle down? And Maul was like, I would, but like, my bitch has got to be okay with me having other bitches. And they just don't be with that. Do you remember that conversation? Yeah. But that was like 15 years ago.

He's a different person. So, but how does that make me a terrible person? I'm not like leading women into a relationship having them thinking that they're the only one. That's a good point. Okay. So you know what? You're not a terrible person. Just what you are searching for in your love life is not the same things that my friends are exactly searching for.

but I'm not but that's what they be saying in the group chat yeah that may not be what they really search for this yeah but that's for the hoes we ain't gonna take you serious we could be hosed too

and you ain't gotta take me serious like who said I want to be taking seriously try me and don't take me serious you don't trick you want to like you want pussy not relationship but you also don't trick but I don't trick because I don't like

prostitutes I don't like escorts but you don't got to I can't be a trick and you can't be a hoe that don't go together That's I feel okay You can't say niggas

You can't say niggas is tricks And you ain't a hoag No don't do that Because I don't try to put you on with bitches Fine bitches And what you said I was like yo she gonna want you to spend money You're like I ain't doing that

I'm like she ain't fucking you You said she don't want me to spend money You know I said she don't want you to spend money And you was like I ain't doing that Yeah I'm not paying for pussy Pussy is like water When you've had 20 years of free pussy You're not going to just start drinking

Okay Painting for pussy is something I just don't understand I'm not a trick Now, if that's your lifestyle, then I respect that. If you're a whole, if you're selling pussy, I respect that. But don't sit here and say you ain't selling pussy and get mad when I ain't spending money. But you can spend money without giving money directly. Oh, yeah.

Oh, you're going to have a great time together for sure. Yeah, we're going, we're going to have a ball. But I ain't just, yo, buy me this, send me money. Forget the. Who are you talking to? You don't even say, you don't sell hair and nails money for a girl you going on a day? with? For sure. That's light. That's nothing. You know what I'm talking about. Okay. Exactly. But that's, but that's what I'm saying. If you're willing to do that. When bitch, hair and nails ain't

$5,000. Are we buying the hair? Hair nails ain't $10,000. I'm buying the hair and nails don't cause, it's not a Rolex. Hair and nails ain't a Chanel bag. Hair and nails ain't mortgage in the car note. Like, and hair and nails grows out your body naturally. Yeah. Like, if you, if I'm dating a girl, Absolutely. She can have, but you know what you know the type of women I'm talking about when they lead with that type of shit. But that's what I'm saying. If I'm the first date, if I'm the first date, like, I'm coming to meet you and you don't want to pay for the hair or no. Let's just say nails and feet.

I'm coming to meet you. Here go, $300 for nails and feet. You willing to do that? Right. That's it. I feel like, if I say, yo, what's so let's go to dinner. He'd be like, yo, I ain't going to lie. My hair, my nails ain't done.

If that's what stopping us from me. When, when you, what day you want to go? See, all right, now that I know that about you. I guess I got some, I got some holes for you. Yeah, but that's not, but tricking. Yeah, like, that's not, to me, that's not tricking. Well, what I don't, I believe that it's not even. Because at that point, paying for the date would be tricking.

Yeah. I believe that as well, but I didn't know how you felt about it. I'm talking about when they be like, yo, my boo-friend dude, well, you're a boo-friend dude. What that got to do with me? Yeah. Don't, don't start your text with you. I'm really depressed these days. I'd be like, my podcast mic is starting to get a, get a short.

in it. Please don't tell nobody that. Don't have nobody thinking that you need money to get a podcast mic on this platform. Please don't have no niggas thinking that. Please. That's never happened. I mean, listen. That was saying if you get it off, get your money. Nah, because then a nigga going to be outside this door told my yo, I want my mic back. After he break up with her and I got to go out there and punch that nigga in his face. Now I'm locked up. Now me and Cardi got the same lawyer. Like, you see what I'm saying? Like, nah, man. No, Nah, nah, nah. No tell those niggas that.

Before we wrap up, Maul, you remember that girl that I halfway introduced you to after the J-elect show at Sony Hall, we went to the hookah spot. Yes. And there was that girl.

Bad, bad, bitch. Yes. What did she ask you for? Because she definitely came back and was like, and mind you, I didn't know that girl was like on that type of time. Yeah, yeah.

She was selling it. I wouldn't know. Yeah. I had met her that day, too. What was the price? but she came back to me because I asked her like in passing the next time I started

like oh what's up with you a mall like I was hitting it off at the hookah spot and he's like he don't want to spend no money and I was like yeah it checks out yeah yeah she asked me something she said something crazy and I just think I never responded it's like our first week like ever even meeting each other

and we just texting conversations she says something about some money and I was like well I read that shit I say yo everybody's and I'm not mad if that's what you're doing I'm not mad Yeah, but I'm not. Yeah, but it's just like, yo, come on.

I can't, I really, listen, as somebody who's out here dating who has been in the day and world, I understand why women sell pussy. I'm not built for it. Because women are lazy. I don't got the stomach for it. No, it ain't even just about being lazy because I know women don't want to work. I know women with jobs that still sell pussy. Because they, and guess what?

If they start selling enough pussy, guess what they quitting? The job. Exactly my point. But my thing is, it's like, when you out here dating men, and this is not me saying because I hate men, but being out here dating men, you really do be like, I need to be compensated for this shit. This shit is a lot. Like, it really is. So I understand why some women sell it.

Wait, what's a lot? But are y'all a lot? Like, should I invoice you too? Yeah, they don't never talk about that. You really think that it's easier to date women. I mean, you really think it's easier to date men than it is to date women. I don't know. I don't know. You've dated both genders.

I'm sorry. And let me motherfuck and tell you something. It's easier to date women. It really is. Yeah, but the dating pool, like the women, the options is just like, No, it's way more, it's literally scientific fact that it's way more options for y'all than there is for women. I got to ask Moriah. She's a scientist.

That's what she studied at saying. Yeah, we got to ask her more I would. What that mean? No, I said look who Mariah would. Hmm. With a, I mean, a legend? We're talking about young guys. Exactly.

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. A legend. One of the greatest melody writers of our generation. Oh my God, Rory, you're a fucking idiot, man. Shut up, dog. Shut the fuck up. I got to put more respect on Yadi's name, man.

Why? I don't know if that shit was true of one of the only fans' chicks leaked a bunch of text messages on Little Baby when he was being a big, big trick. I don't want to put it on him because I don't know if it was really fake. Okay. Yeah, I think I did this. But why every single girl that all these new rapper

one of wife, all of them be like, yeah, I fucked Yadi. Yadi, I'm sorry. I'm right. And I'm a Morae to find his best songs. It's like, why? So, I'm a Mara science and best songs of what? Are about Yadi. Oh, she dated Yadi?

She dated Yadi, yeah. Yadi, I wouldn't say, discovered her per se, but yeah. When she was, it was like a relationship, it was like, for real. Okay, I didn't know that. He's like, you know, they've talked about it in interviews. I remember one time, but he didn't know she was like a musician and or she would say she was and he wouldn't really take her serious, but she wrote him like a mixtape and he just was like, I never, I'm not listening to that.

I don't want hurt your feelings when they were in like college. Oh shit. They were super young. Yeah. Oh, okay. They were like in a relationship relationship. Yeah. You know, that motherfucker little baby.

Again, I don't know if those were, they could be fake text messages. But he was like, man, add boat to the chat right now. I don't care. Oh my God. Yeah, but you know why? Because for them, that's, they, they're in a whole different lifestyle. Like, that shit is like, they understand what it is. Like, yeah, I know.

Every girl, I mean, every girl has a past. it's not that was just funny that every time some shit gets leaked that girl fucked the yaddi i just i'd be feeling bad for him yeah that's crazy because he'd be minding his business and now every time there's some scandal some IG chick some only fans model all of a sudden my name gets brought into the shit every time yeah i mean i'm not mad at women for you know fucking approaching men no approaching men about money and being paid because that's what a lot of men leave with they leave with money and like she didn't realize though when she leaked all those text messages, how crazy she looked. She seemed like a real solid girl in the beginning of the conversation.

She was like, yo, out of respect, like, I fucked with Yadi. Like, this would be weird. Like, I just can't, I'm not that type of girl. That's your man. It's like, I'm weird of that. And little baby was like, man, I'm about to just pull up to your crib. And she's like, please don't do that. This is, this is not going to work out. And then halfway through the convo, she goes, well, if you bought me my dream car, then you could have me forever. And baby was like, all right, Ben, with Pink Porsche, got the down payment today. Like, she was the most respectable chick. Like, yo, I can't.

She was like, yo, you're a good person. We could be friends. That's why. That's why I can't be mad at these girls because these be the type of conversations that they be having in their DMs. So then here I come, it's like, oh, but again, once you tell me that that's what you're about, no, I respect it. It's just not my lifestyle.

I don't do that. You can have me forever for a car. Yeah. But he's not going to have her forever. You know that he didn't mean it. No, he said he was on that whole shit. Yo, add Yadi to the chat. I've already talked to Yadi about you.

You're my dream girl. I want to marry you type shit. Again, this could all be fake. I want to put this shit on baby. That's what you're my dream girl. Okay, you can have me forever. By me my car. That's called gas.

That's called gas. That's called gas in it. Once she comes through and he hit, he'll be like, yo, I've got to talk to my accountant. He's going to send a wire. You know, that kind of. You know, let me hollet my accountant. I would need the pink slip before you get the pink lip.

need to just lie more. Why? Just tell the... I need to... I've never sold girls' dreams. Tell them the truth is much more fun than line. Way more fun. Sorry.

Baby, say, yo, just pick the pink porous bet. See? The whole conversation shift. She went from the most stand-up girl I'd ever read of elite text message from that. Just got to sell the dream. Hey, man. All right, man.

Well, let me get out of here. My allergies, kicking my ass. If I had baby money, though, I'd probably buy a girl person. Of course you would. Oh, please. I don't like that. See, I don't like that tone. I know we're trying to get out of here, but I don't like that tone. I'm not a trick as a fucking middle class person.

You spend a little money, but you ain't really no trick. You could trick more. I encourage both of you all to trick more. I'm not a trick. I don't buy pussy. I'm not into escorts and prostitutes. That's just not who I am. I don't know.

Never been that guy. And to me, if you don't claim you're a prostitute, but you say, I don't want to fuck with you, but if you buy my dream car, I fuck with you, you're a prostitute. they try to break it down and make it see anything the rest anything the less in the blow of being your hate prostitative i see the value in this situation i you know i feel like i see the value because then i know you really love me like oh damn like he really is interested he literally said yo put yadi in the chat i'm showing you that i don't care about your past that's my man's but you are my dream girl i love you i vibe with you and she said no and then all of a sudden was like

yo you give me a car though and you could have anything you want but maybe that is a prostitute Maybe her love language is gifts. They all speak gifts, don't they? Every chick speak gift. Y'all speak gifts, boy. Y'all learn that language so fast. What school y'all studied that at? St. John?

All right, man, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. I'm Daniel Alarcon. And this is my friend.

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