New Rory & MAL - Episode 405 | NRM Youngboys

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

Ayyyy we got an extra episode for y'all this week. Off the top Rory and Mal predict the Canelo-Crawford fight even though boxing might be cooked. Rory wasn't really feelin' Iceman Episode 3, but Mal thinks it might be a setup for something bigger and better. Demaris tries to set up a group date for the next NBA Youngboy concert. Plus, it's never too late to give Ice Cube his flowers, a caller is curious about Rory's political opinion on foreign affairs, + more! #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Who's excited to dissect the culture? You are. I am excited. See it in your face. I'm very excited. You seem like you have something to talk about today. Like you're excited. Like you're holding some information.

What information do you have? I actually don't have any information today. I can see it in your face. I can tell you. tell when you like you want to let something out and it's like outside of wait until we get on mic and camera to like you've been avoiding me in the studio since I got here like I walk out there you come in here I walk in here you walk out out there once I had to take a phone call but I mean Jet Fuel does it does melt steel beams that I mean I've been holding that information for quite

some time so I we're not we're not if you're thinking that's what I was going to get at doing that first of all continued prayers and condoluses to everyone that was affected by the tragic tragic tragic day of 9-11, 2001. 24 years later, we are here. Never forget. I stopped by two firehouses today, the one around the corner and the one in Hell's Kitchens. You know, because a lot of firefighters that did pass on 9-11,

they will open their doors so everyone can pay the respect. If you walk by a firehouse, you could sit in. Went to two today, especially the one, you know. One around the corner is pretty cool. The guys are pretty cool. I see them out there sometimes. Yeah, it's just, which I guess maybe it's a, selfish thought when you're when you're this far downtown it gets even sadder oh yeah because this

firehouse i'm sure was there in in one minute oh like sure we're sure they definitely so yeah they that firehouse had you know a majority of them were some of the first people in there which you know tragically leads to being higher and and not making it down so to all new yorkers america period uh i mean i i know we say never forget in a condescending way sometimes but seriously this this is a huge day in my life, like everything changed. So, you know, it's our 10th or 11th time talking about 9-11 on the anniversary on a podcast. So, you know, I feel like our listeners know our thoughts on this entire thing, but we still should always bring up. Us being New Yorkers and, you know, being in the city, obviously on 9-11, it's forever a part of our lives.

I think we'll ever be anywhere in the world and not remember 9-11. So continue prayers and condolences to all families. and victims of the tragic 9-11. And hopefully, you know, 24 years later, people are somewhat back to some normalcy. And life is just being. Not really. Not really, but, you know, somewhat. No, actually, it is normal because everything after 9-11 has been completely fucking chaotic.

And so that's become the new normal. Yeah. It seems like 9-11. Like planes running into the tower. Now that became, all right, yeah, everything's chaotic after that. Yeah. Everything feels normal after that happens. I keep telling them, well, now more than never.

I think people really, we're just so insensitive. Like, we really don't care about. They released a video of us shooting a missile at a UFO and it bouncing off the UFO and nobody is even talking about it. Yeah, I saw that. Like, the UFO didn't slow down, stop, nothing. Like, it just, they asked one of the guys that said, does this make you nervous? Are you scared? He was like, yeah.

Yeah, I'm scared about, like, one of our missiles, like, we shot at an unidentified flying object. And it completely just kept flying straight through the. You think this is the first time? Yeah, like didn't break course, nothing. This is like, yeah. It's scary. I mean, they just got a, what's homie from Jurassic Park in Independence Day? Jeff, they just got to hit Jeff Goldblum.

He figured out Independence Day to get through that force field. Yeah. And then, a homie, the redneck sacrificed himself. Like, yeah, come on. We got the technology. That was his get back. That was his get back. Everyone said he didn't get abducted.

They abducted him years ago. He said, I'm back. He was waiting for his get back. He was waiting for his get back. Yeah, man. Yeah, but we're so intense that we don't care. Like, we're going to see the aliens one day. They're going to be just chilling on the corner.

We're going to just keep strolling. Like, all right, cool. Like, it's nothing. Obviously, Independence Day was a movie, but it just proves just like how much masculinity is really gone. Like, the lack of men and what we know how to do. They were just grabbing anybody to fly fighter jets into space to fight the aliens. And it was just like farmers like, yeah, I know how to do that. Well, anybody didn't know how to fly.

What happens if they say, yo, moll? Here's an F-16. It's your time. No, no, it was people that were crop dusters that know how to fly. Yeah, they used to be pilots, but like. They just had to teach them how to shoot. But like, for sure. But I don't even have the knowledge of how to fly one of the Wright brothers' planes.

Those guys knew how to do those in the farms and then just got in the F-16 and saved the world. Anything. Like just open the womb for Will Smith to get in there and get busy. Yeah. Well, what would you do if you sat in a furniture? And they was like, nah, it's us or them? I mean, at some point, you have to. You know, if I had some flying experience and it was like, listen, this has, we're trying to save the world.

I think I would do it. I think I would get in a fighter jet. I mean, a fighter jet and a crop dust are two totally different planes. That's like saying, yo, jump in a Honda. But we don't even have the crop duster experience. No, but they have zero. Yeah, but they wouldn't tell us to get in a plane. You never know.

There was people that was cropped. There was people that knew how to fly, some type of airplane. Because they had an actual skill. Yeah. They were men. They farmed. They had a trade. No, we're far from that.

No, we're far. You want me to talk to the aliens? I can talk to them. Yeah. Yeah. We can talk about what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, we can do that.

You know what I'm saying? We want a part of it. Next week. I could play the aliens about the carty album. I could play the back seat. You know, some fighter jets have two seats. The one that's just like, yeah, they're right here. They're right there. us, you know, let's get out of here. I can do that. But me flying, that's not happening.

If it's up to me, we all fucked. I mean, I can't wait for the aliens. Let's just to, let's just settle this once in parole. Me, me, just take us over. We need a new regime. The whole world needs regime change, not a country, the planet. Come back in and show us the way. I keep telling. I don't think the aliens. He showed us nukes. They're not trying to take over the planet. I don't think that's what it is. It's their planet. Yeah. They're already here. They've been here. Are you under the impression that AI is actually an alien from Saturn?

Because that's a new, that's a new theory. AI is actually an alien. And it's from Saturn. No, I'm not. It's not a technology. It is a being. It is, it is from Saturn. No, I didn't, I didn't jump down that rabbit hole yet.

All right, man. Is that way you're at? It's your loss. Is that the rabbit hole that you're done right now? It's not a rabbit hole. It's a fact. Okay. No, I didn't know that.

You just told me something earlier today. It's not far-fetched, though. I mean, I'm not mad at that. But I don't, I didn't. I didn't jump down at rebel. I don't even know how we got to that. What are you doing this weekend? We have the Canelo fight.

Biggest fight of the... Not the century, but... No. Definitely last few years, though, I feel like this is... This is definitely one of the biggest fights in the last 20 years, for sure. That wouldn't know. That's excessive. What?

This is definitely one of the biggest fights in the last... Even though Pachia had lost after he... Then he went to fight Mayweather. Okay, so that wasn't exactly. That was... It was still Pachial. Mackeyeh out, Mayweather fought in both in their, you know, when they, in their primes and Packayout again, knocked out and didn't lose another fight after getting knocked out. And then Fort Floyd, then yes. I would still put De La Jollauea Mayweather against this. That was a fight everyone was anticipating crazy. Yeah, that was anticipated. But this is, this is the one of those. This is on that same course of, you know, one of the most legendary boxing fights that we will ever see for sure.

Should I do a fight party? What are we doing? What's everyone doing? Fight parties? You still have those? Of course. What you want to go to a bar? No.

Definitely don't want to go to a bar. I hate watching boxing. I watched, who's my Irish brethren that sent his dick to Zillia Banks? Canelo? No. First of all, Canelo is Mexican. Oh. He just happens to be a gender.

What did you say? What? McGregor, yeah. I watched Mayweather McGregor at a bar. It was the worst experience I've ever had. in my entire level. Watching fights in public places sucks. Yeah, watching events in public places suck. I'm not really a... I can watch regular season football at bars in public places. Super Bowl, I hate it.

Like, any time where they throw music on during commercials and, like, I can't stand any of that. I just want to be quiet and watch what the fuck I'm watching. Watching the Knicks during the playoffs was fun when me, Pete, and Josh went. But that's because it's like a community of Knicks fans and New Yorkers. Like, if we went to Mexico, I would definitely want to go out to watch the Canelo fight because it would be crazy everywhere. Absolutely. But, no, other than that, I'm a fight party all the way.

Damaris, I'll pay for the food if you want to cook. Cook? Who? Like, I thought, like, fight parties were, like, wings and pizza and shit. Like, I mean, we go order. He's saying cook wings and make a pizza. Flip the dough in the air. Yeah, do all of that.

Okay. Yeah, that's what you said. I actually like to shred the mozzarella. I like to make pizza. It's fun. It's like an activity. How do you make pizza? You get dough and then you get sauce and you get mozzarella and whatever.

Like you made pizza from scratch before? No, I bought dough and then made- That's from scratch. I didn't make the dough. I bought the dough. So, so you didn't make the dough. All right. Yeah.

Oh, I do it often. Like really often. Like with Amara too. He's mentioned- He usually ruins him. Yeah, I was gonna say he's mentioned he makes it with Amara. Yeah, it's fun. Okay.

If you get the pre-crust, that's the easiest one, like where you can just throw shit in the oven and just whatever you want to put on top. But the dough, shit is fun. I fuck it up a lot. Because even when you buy the dough, if you fuck up the flour, like, I give dollar pizza slices more credit

once I started to try to make pizza. The shit is difficult. But that's just fun. We can make pizza. We can make wings. Or we can just order. Thank you so much. I'm down.

She's waiting for just order. I'm down. I'm down. Well, shit. All right, let me order. Let me pre-order now for all the Spanish people in Jersey City.

I can't order the day of. That would never happen. Oh, no. We get the food on Monday. Nah, you just got to order early in the day. That's all. But yeah, we can do a fight party at my career. That could be fun.

Yeah, that'd be cool. I mean, I know you're not coming, but. I'll pull up. No, if you have a watch party, Charles, I'll pull up. Okay, I just got to feel like, do y'all know, like, women? Do I know women? Yes, I know women. Okay.

Add them to the list because I can provide a venue. I can provide a cable. Yeah. I will purchase the fight. I have a TV. I will buy the food. I can't like the other libations, the ones that people care the most about, I can't provide. Yeah, but women don't want to go to somebody.

I was going to say women only go to fight parties when they want to fuck one of the niggas at the fight party. Well, maybe Moll knows women that would want to do that. Oh. No. Damn. I'm that hideous. No, I'm just saying, I don't know.

Off top. I don't know women. Off the top of my head. Yeah, like I would have to do some digging in the files. Like, oh, you know. Or we could just like have some making not a sexual thing whatsoever. And just watch the fucking fight. Just a bunch of people getting.

just, you know, have conversation, be friends, and focus on the sport of boxing. Well, Roy, if you want it to be a real fight party, we can get women. Fight party to me is 10 people. I'm not like, come on. Not a fight party, because at that point, you could just go outside. Yeah, like 10 people. It's on Netflix, right? Is this on Netflix?

I think it's on Netflix. So it's three of us. We need seven more people? Oh, no. I can hit Beatrice. I could hit just the people that are in the area. Okay. That's all I got.

That's all you need. That is true. I mean, that is how we watch every Knicks game too. Yeah. Who do you have in this fight? Oh, man. So I'm watching the Netflix series leading up to the fight. And then I saw an interview with Conno and Crawford the other day.

Canello didn't know Crawford had seven kids. So when he found that out, he was like, oh, shit. So his face was kind of like this guy has said he's fighting. for more than I thought he was. Like, you know what I'm saying? He had that look on his face like seven kids. Like, holy shit. You know what I mean? So my heart is saying Crawford, but my boxing mind is saying Canelo.

I'm going, Canelo. As much as I do love my Ginger brother, I think he's going to win. I'm going for Crawford, but I think, I think Canello's going to win this. And I'm actually kind of shocked how many people think it's going to be a landslide with Crawford. Like, that's been the consensus of everyone I've talked to that Crawford. was good. I was like, are y'all sure? Listen, I love Terrence Crawford. I think he's incredible. I think he, you know, he's going to surprise people with this performance. But I also think that, you know, Conello is, he's just

a different type of fighter that I don't think Crawford has ever faced before. And I think that would be the difference. I think once Crawford is in the ring with him, he'll realize that this is probably as tough as opponent that he's ever faced. And, but I think, I think it will be an entertaining fight though. I don't think it'll be a knockout. I think it's going to go to distance. It's going to go to the cards. And I do think that Canello will be the better fight Saturday night. I definitely definitely think it's going the distance for sure. Back to your point of this being one of the biggest fights in the last however many years, now that I do think about it with everything that's been happening with boxing, I agree

also on the side of just the sport. Again, we've supported the Paul Brothers. is everything they've done. I think it is great that they're finding other ways to keep boxing relevant. But this may be the most important thing for the real side of the sport. Because now we're down to Mayweather and Tyson fighting each other, which, again, I like what Icekey was doing with the big three. Like, I think everyone should still be able to make money in retirement. I have nothing against that whatsoever.

But it is starting to take a lot of the seriousness away from what boxing once was when that gets more views than anything else whatsoever. Like what Cube is doing is awesome But if you compare it to the TV rights of the NBA It's not even close This Canelo and Crawford shit is like the last shit we have As far as superstars in anticipated fights Yeah this is

We're sitting there just wondering who Jake Paul's gonna fight Well he he's gonna fight Tank he's fighting Tank And again Tank is in a prime of professional Yeah I'd like to see him fight another professional in their prime as well, which is rare sometimes. But Canello and Crawford, to your point,

this is the last one that, like, we've had in quite some time. Well, of course I'm going to watch Mayweather and Tyson. Oh, yeah, you're going to watch it. But Tank still has. He still has the Lamont Roach rematch. Yeah. That was a great first fight they had. People still want to see Tank fight Shakur.

Yeah. And I wish all that would happen before we get to Jake Paul. And that's not a slight to Jake Paul. I just think Tank has a few people he needs to fight before we get to this. That's all. Yeah. Like Floyd could fight fucking James Tony for all. Anybody that's retired.

So for him to take that Jake Paul fight now is a little weird. But I mean, the bag that he's getting is hard to listen, man, it's hard to turn that bad. We could say, we could sit here and say what we want. Who said I wouldn't do the fight? I'm just saying. It's just hard to turn that type of money down. But I think, you know, Tank after that the Jake Paul fight, he'll go on and fight. Obviously, Lamont Roach again.

I think he will fight. She called Stevenson at some point down the line. I think the Canella Crawford is interesting, only because, you know, if this, I think whichever way this goes is going to be a rematch. Yeah. Oh, for sure. So we'll get a second Canella Crawford.

Yeah. So, I mean, you know, we got at least another two years of waiting to see some good fights. So another interesting point that you bring up. we're definitely going to get a second it may be a trilogy for all we know is the fix already in so we can guarantee that there's a second and third fight no i think it's not act like it's not politics as usual like we give jake paul all them shit like hey this fight is fixed but let's not act like professional boxing hasn't been either is the fix in already where it feels like it's so debated

or somebody gets fucked over like let's say canello it goes the distance it's clear that canello nine 10 on every fucking round and they give it a crawford that's going to spark, all right, we need a rematch. Do we think that because people in their prime not fighting each other is less than it used to be, are they going to set this up for the next 10 years? Five years. No, I think that either way it goes, the rematch is happening. I think someone gets slighted that forces the first thing the commentators say out of the gaze,

all right, now we need a rematch. No, this doesn't. A second fight is happening no matter which ways this goes Saturday night. A second fight is happening. Now, a third fight, I think that's depending on how the second fight goes. Yeah. Who's victorious in that fight? Like if Canelo wins this fight, Crawford wins the second fight, then obviously we have to have a third to kind of break that whole, you know, tie one and one.

But yeah, I mean, it's a lot of money in Canella Crawford. They're two of the biggest names in the sport right now. And we know how, you know, the fight game is while fighters are hot while they're in demand, you know, TV deals and pay-per-view. deals, they're going to get as much money out of it as they can. So, you know, we'll have to see that. But this is the one fight that I think every fight fan has been waiting for and is excited to see. Yeah.

So, I mean, I'm looking forward to it. And again, my heart is with Crawford, but I've seen Canello too much, man. And, you know, I've seen some great fighters standing in front of Canello. And they all say the same thing after the fight was, he's a lot better than I thought he was. He hits a, he's a lot stronger than I thought he was. And again, I love Crawford, but I think he's going to find out the same thing Saturday night. Yeah, I'm with you. All right, outside of boxing, how come no one's went to any fashion week?

Like, we're the wackest podcast ever. No one went to any fashion week events? I was hoping to see y'all Instagram that y'all was moving and shaking. It just started, though. Oh, I thought that shit been going on. It's been some stuff, but. I get confused with Fashion Week. Like, it's like seven different weeks in New York.

Do they have set weeks for this? Or did they just randomly be like, yo, this is this the week? No, it's, they flip a coin. And it's like, you know what? We're going to go with February 1st. No, it's always around the same time every year. Okay. September 11th to the 16th.

Okay. I saw a bunch of events already. Well, people are in town since Monday. VMAs and parties and things like that. But, you know, and then the VMAs were last weekend. So, you know, it's been a lot of events. We live in New York. It's always something going on in New York City.

But it is officially Fashion Week as we speak. We're washed, bro. Like, you need to just accept it, learn to live with it. Nobody's inviting us to stuff. I feel like, y'all get invited. Y'all don't go. Yeah, no, I got invited to stuff. It's just like, what am I?

What am I do there? Just stands? Yeah, I'm not going to keep running at different events just to watch the new drop that's coming out next year. And then, you know. No, I would never walk the runway, page. Wait, why not? I would.

No. That would be fun to try to do. Nah. Serve. Peas, get off my ear. I would never walk the runway. Don't do that. Would you rip the runway?

Don't do that? I'm telling you I would never walk the runway. If Jerry Asht, Fear of God show asked Maul to walk down in his fear of God, Nike's, you're doing it. Why wouldn't you do that? And I'm not taking away from models because they really know how to walk. Only because I fuck. But all you really got to do is walk.

You ought to be a professional. Just walk. If Jerry asks, only because I fuck with Jerry, like. That's one of my favorite designers, absolutely I would. But anybody else, I'm cool. I was just about to say, Godspeed, you wouldn't? Vanity, you not? He closed on the show for Godspeed.

He can be the last one. It's just more, actually. He walks around, changes, and it just keeps going in circles in different godspeed shit. Yeah. I mean, Vanity, we would have to do all our stuff. Would you walk in the New Royal Mall fashion show? Like, with just our merch? I mean, I would have to.

Yeah. Okay. I mean, you weren't the last photo shoots. I didn't think that the fashion show would be there. If it was a fashion show. There's not much talk about Damaris. I'm trying to stir shit up. If it was a fashion show?

We're like, see. We had a photo show, but. Yeah, if it was a fashion show, what, yeah. Okay, who else do you think? Would we get the whole crew? Like, would it be me, you, DeMaris, Pige, Josh, Benner. We could fly Yomas back up. We get Edin on the squad.

He was actually here. We get Kelly from volume, Logan. You're thinking Shannon Sharp, if he ever signs the new deal. No, we got to stay away from Shannon. He just did a Tony Yeo episode. What does that mean? He's back out on the street. Put him in our merch?

Nah. Him and Yeo so they could plug the new episode. Yale for sure. Put Yeo with some merch, let him walk the runway for sure. Absolutely, we would have Yeo in the fashion show. All right, well, then list the brands that you would do a fashion show with. We have fear of God already. Godspeed.

Anything with God. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Makes sense. I mean, I'm salty that Ame is still, to this day, is not even put me in any of the ads. At this point, they just be fine in anybody. And I'm like, yo, every season, it's a different influence. I'd be checking, I've been checking my Instagram followers like, huh?

No, they don't, they don't, they don't got the sauce like that. Yeah, no, they ain't mess with you. You got to wait outside on the line drops. They'll wait outside. with. I think I'm in and shout to Teddy. I love Amay. But I think I'm in an abusive relationship with them. Why? Because I'll happily pay

for stuff all the time. Pay for stuff all the time. But every time I start to feel like I'm getting in to the place of this is a whole new brand, y'all stopping me at the door, this and that, all of a sudden I get a friends and family discount. Anytime I'm about to leave. Like, I really feel like in a DV victim. They do. They love bombing. Every single time

I'm about to leave. They love Bobby without me. Why y'all treatment like this? I pay for shit. I support. I wear it everywhere. Now y'all saying, oh, you got to make an appointment to just buy a t-shirt. I'm like, what the fuck?

Anytime that happens, somebody from the OG first staff will be like, yo, no, what are you doing? Come on. Yo, tell him 70% off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a love bomb. Every single fucking time. Yeah, they want to keep you there just as long as they can. I mean, if I got to walk in their show, yeah, they'd have me forever.

I'm at his dope, though. They got some fly shit. I mean, we would never probably get asked for any designer. We wouldn't get ass, period. But designer shit, I like Dior stuff to some degree. Dior I would do. LV, I don't, just the non-printed everywhere shit. But I don't know.

I feel like I would trip. On the runway? Over nothing? Over nothing? Over my insecurities. All he do is trip over nothing. I'd be tripping over overthinking of left, right, left right, left right. Yeah.

You know, this thing will be on the one and three walking? He can't even walk. I probably start holding my breath and not realize it. Like 40 seconds in, I'd be like, I just realized I didn't breathe. Yeah. I'd start coughing. Bro. Stoic-ass face.

Oh, my God. I feel like that would be way harder than people think it is. Walking a runway? Hell yeah. That shit looks terrifying. Just walking? No, I can just walk, but not on a runway. Like, I'd have to have like the right bop.

I'd start overthinking a small thing. See, that's why they wouldn't ask you. Oh, no, I know that. But they know that. And I'm giving credit to models because that is an art to walking in that regard. But like, would it be weird if I practice in the mirror of like what I wanted to give them as far as a walk? Very weird. Like would it be, you know, casual, stoic?

They're very weird. Just walk. Just put an outfit on and just go out there and let the people see the outfit. Very simple. You're overthinking this thing. Just be cool, man. That's all you got to do. Just be cool.

Act like you're going to pay the meter. I think it was 2015 or something. 16 when when Kanye was doing all those fashion shows for Pablo and then you know he did with the listening session in the garden where it was like all that and then he did like central park or whatever you know they were because yay wanted to do so many of them deaf jam was literally calling anybody that they fucking knew and they was like they were you want to put on an american apparel t-shirt and walk in central park i was like no they called you for that they called everybody more for for for a yay release because he wanted to do like

75, not like on some influencer shit. Shit, little Yaddy was in that shit and no one even knew really who Yadi was like that at that time. Like they were calling anybody that was connected to anyone at Def Jam because Kanye had already overused anyone in the fashion world of the real models. They just needed people to stand for an hour and a half, not even in Yeezy Apparel. Like literally just white t-shirts and whatever aesthetic and you just had to be an extra in the back.

I was like, I think I remember that. I was like, you just want me to stand? That was some years ago. 2016, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Oh, my God. But I regret it, though. If I were to go back, I would have said yes. I would have said yes to that now in retrospect.

I really would have. That would have just been a story to have of like, you know, I had to stand like this, like I was guarding the queen for two hours straight, not even in easy clothes, just in a regular white t-shirt and white pants. Just like this in Central Park. We got to find that photo. I'm sure some faces in there like we look at now. For sure.

Oh shit. Like that person was there. I was watching your worst movie of all time Rudy the other night. And I didn't realize that Vince Vaughn was the protagonist. I did not. Yo, that I was crying, laughing. Like, you, I had no idea. Yeah.

Because that wasn't post-swingers, right? That might have been Vince's like first real big movie. That's what I'm saying. And seeing that, I was like, yo, I had no idea that that was Vince Vaughn the whole time. And he kind of still acts like he did in wedding crashers. The same. The same. Once you look at his whole filmography after, it's like, all right, he's really just acting like he does.

Same guy. He's getting older. He's the same person. He's spoiled lazy running back. Same. Same guy, man. Yeah. So you still like the movie?

I do like Rudy, man. I don't know why you don't like that movie. It was a good movie. It was a really good movie. Celebrating mediocre shit. No, man, it was a good movie, man. He didn't even do nothing with that degree. That's not true.

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Did you see Iceman episode three? Yeah. What did you think about it? Yeah. I was underwhelmed. I thought the songs that he previewed were underwhelming compared to all the other Iceman stuff and the stuff he's put on DSPs. Visually it was cool.

I sound like a hypocrite, but I'm getting a little tired of just like all the Easter egg stuff and like everything now has to focus on what does this mean? What does this mean? All right, there's a bunch of guys in the balcony. One has a white house. I have, what is like, it's just getting, like, exhausting.

I get why he's doing it. And if I were him or advising him, I'd do the same thing. You've got to lean into it. This is what came out of the beef. But musically, that's the only thing I really care about at the end of the day. I thought that whatever happened, what's the name of the song? It didn't go on DSPs. You mean that's just how I feel, Rory?

I mean, yeah, the same thing, no? What happened? That's how I feel. What did I miss? Just a bunch of those titles. I just thought it was underwhelming. And even if it's a demo, cool, like, it's cool to leak stuff on stream. But at this high quality of production and one of the first rappers that is doing it this way,

as far as releasing music offstream live with visuals, I just don't think it matched up to the music that we've been hearing from Drake the last few weeks. It started out crazy. I thought he was about to get Drake back in his bag and then it switched into, something that I think is beneath Drake's talent level. That's really it. The Yeat shit started out cool, too. I don't know.

I don't want to be the one to comment on a Drake and Yeat song. Yeats are not for me. I don't know if the kids love that. But I don't know. It feels like a lot, just more of the same. That's all. It's just more the same beats, more the same flows, more of the same content. I want to see where it goes, where the story goes.

I mean, I did see. I think it that he ended with. That record sounds crazy. I wanted to hear whatever beat was playing when he was in the elevator of episode two. Oh, yeah, that's what I thought we were getting. And I don't know. I think everybody felt like that. That's what they would get.

But I don't know. See, that's it. Everyone thought they was getting the red button and I laughed. I didn't think we were getting it on this one whatsoever. I think everybody got spoiled because of the, uh, what did I miss was the first one. So I think everybody felt like it was going to be like releases. I mean, obviously the Yeat and the, uh, Julia Wolf record came out, dog house. So yeah.

But the record that's her record though, no? Yeah, yeah, I believe so. But that record at the end with the Iceman sample, that sounds like, that sounds like it might be the intro to the Iceman album. Here's my thing. Nobody in their right mind thinks Drake does not have access to amazing production. So you can keep playing all these crazy beats. Like, I believe, I don't know if it was true, but everyone said that was a boy wonder beat that when he was in the elevator. Yeah.

Like, we already know Drake has worked with, put on, partnered with some of the greatest producers of our generation. Nobody thinks Drake can't get good beats. What are you saying on them? So teasing the beats is cool, but what are you going to say is what people care about? Well, I get it. It's a rollout. It's anticipation.

I just, this was the most underwhelming Iceman episode. Like, he, I think, really needs to make a bang with episode four for people to continue to care about the series. I thought one and two were cool. caused up more conversation, put out actual music with it. This one just, I felt like it was a bit of a dud and any anticipation went away at the end of it. It was like, that was it? This could be his wire season two.

This could be the ports. This is the whole reason of how we get season. This could be the dots. This could be him at the docks. They were a legacy on the table and tomato sauce. Pour dice on top of it. I mean, listen, it's going to be some things. you might go back to be like, okay, that all makes sense now.

I rewatched The Wire Season 2 actually pretty recently. And I always felt underwhelmed by that. I don't know if it's just because I got older and knew where the rest of the season was going. I actually like enjoy season 2. It's definitely not the best. But the end of season 2 going into season 3 may be my favorite part of the entire series. Like that whole Barstead-Marlo

transition from two to three to me is like the best part of it. So I take back a lot of the hate I had for season two of the wire. It's just we saw so many white faces and it was just like, all right man, come on. Yeah, show us. Yeah, see, so you might feel the same way about Ice Mad episode three. Unless he

completely changes, um, what's it called, DeMars? That's just the way I feel or this. Yeah. Yeah, that's just how I feel. We cannot Get that one right. That's just how it. Because he said that's just how I feel and didn't tell me anything he felt.

Maybe you can clean that record up. But as of now, I don't think there could be anything that would make me like really like that record. Okay. I mean, you know where I stood on the last two? Like, I even still liked the Central Sea record. This was just the, the underwhelming one to me.

And I think he needs to do a quick turnaround. I know he's still doing shows, but I would say episode four needs to come because the anticipation he built with one and two, I think it dropped at episode three. I think the fact, well, we've never seen an artist roll out an album this way. This is probably the first time I've seen this. I think that's dope.

But it also has to hit with what he's saying because it's the most important time. That's all. Yeah. What was this rumor? I saw this clip too, the Stat Quote saying, 40 and Boy Wonder have hated each other for years. I don't know if I'm rolling. Stack Quote said that.

First of all, I haven't heard about Stack Quorn. What's that? Is he okay? Yeah. And shout out to Stad Quo. I always fuck with Stack Quo. I haven't heard his name or seen him in a while, but that could just be because I'm... Man, we burnt that stat.

We burnt that Stap in the ground when that shit dropped. Stack could wrap. I wish Shady didn't fumble the talent that they had. But he was on a stream with Justin Hunt. They were talking about Drake and Kendrick shit. And he mentioned... I also didn't know him in Boy Wonder were so close. He said, that's his brother.

He said, Boy Wonder and 40 were not friends for years. which I mean I don't know if that's like breaking new like I don't know stat quo's relationship with that crew that he would be valid in that but I've said to you on this pod and off my of my perception of not even knowing anything I felt like 40's been a little distant in Drake's career for the last few years and I didn't know if that was because he was working on other stuff or working on OVO sound stuff I know he was there's all those footage of him with four bats. Like I thought maybe he was focusing on other stuff,

but it's felt like 40 hasn't had a hand in Drake's career the same he did prior to, which is fine. Like that happens. I don't necessarily think that means there's beef, but we clearly see that Boy Wonders are still very, very much hands-on with everything that Drake does, even through the battle as well. So I'm not saying it's a thing that Stachco said it,

but yeah, perception, we don't know. We don't know. Well, I mean, you know these people, but I don't really know what goes on in their internal shit. I've seen 40 be distant. I've seen Wanda and Drake not be distant. As a fan, just as a fan, as someone that reads credits, at someone that has also obsessed over Drake's sound for the last 15 years,

that 40 had a huge hand in. I can tell the difference when 40's involved and when he's not, just because I'm a nerd. But, yeah, I don't know if there was some tension internally with the crew, which happens. Or 40 just wanted to go do some other shit. Yeah, and focus on the OVO sound thing. But I do think it's interesting that stat quo said that.

I mean, I don't hate. I don't know if they hated each other. Yeah, hates probably. They're both really nice people. Yeah, I don't know if they hate. I don't know if anybody could hate 40. Like, he doesn't have energy that I think people would hate him. Like, Wonders, super cool.

I don't see why anybody would hate him. maybe just competitive shit you know kind of that energy with producers you know that little thing

but I don't know if that's hate it could be just a competitive thing I feel like 40 no matter what it could be a just Blaze record

40 is was going to touch every single record like 40 how 40 mixes is legendary to this era of how I see a lot of other mixers He touches everything from not just engineering, production and mixing with every boy one to beat, too.

Like, it's not competition. 40 has to put his sauce on everything. Like, to me, we used to talk years and years ago. I've always felt like Drake and 40 were a duo. Hip-hop fans are going to get so mad at me. Eric B. Rock Kim, like, I've always felt they're a group. To me, Drake is two people. It's Drake and 40.

I've always felt that way. So competition, like, nah, I feel like 40 is the ones of people like, let's get the best that can get and I'll arrange everything. So I can't see a competition between Wonder and 40. And Wonder on the same side is like, shit, even when a, you know, in Bingo Card, of course, gonna bring Hove up, in the fade to black shit, when Hove was telling Just like, you know you could like maybe not make the album, like, if you don't show up, like, you're not making the album and just like, yeah, right, like that's our sound people are waiting for no matter

what. Drake, that's not a competition. You're always going to need the boy wonder sound with Drake. It's his sound too. Where would there be a competition? Yeah, I mean, they all created this sound together. Yeah, you know because obviously you produce music as well. So you know what it is when you have guys that it's just, this is our circle. This is our camp. This is our base. We all work together. We all work off of each other. If I have an idea, you know, you might be able to help bring it to fruition. Like you might understand the sound that I'm looking for. So when I say competitive, it's not like a competitive like, I'm trying to outdo you.

It's competitive like I'm trying to create some shit that's going to inspire you. Like, oh, shit, that was crazy. Like that's what 40's doing that. I got to, you know, one of that shit. I got to go back here. I got to create some shit. Like, I think that type of energy. I don't think it was a competitive energy in where, you know, we're trying to, you know, go against each other.

It was more so like inspiring, motivating each other to kind of like create the best sound and the best records that they've done. you know, throughout the years with Drake. I think it's a family. It's more of a family thing. Not, you know, a negative competitive thing. It's more or less just like, you know, pushing each other. I mean, I think because all of the people in his camp, it's 40, wonder, vinals, everyone that's hush,

everyone that's in there has created this sound with Drake. Maybe they had different ideas of where it should go. And that started a disagreement rather than a competition thing of like, hey, we all created the sound. I think it should go this way. I think you should go that way. But my real hot take on this entire thing is messy. You know, I love Toronto, but I've spent a lot of time pause around some Toronto men.

Sometimes y'all get emotional when somebody fucks somebody girl. You're always starting some shit. But I've said, I mean, I've jokingly said that, you know, all jokes have some truth. I've joked with men from Toronto about this too. Like, Toronto men love their hos. Sometimes somebody feels away. I'm about to say you must be from Toronto. I get along with Toronto men.

Yeah, but don't say Toronto, men, men. Nah, that's specific up there. Nah, you're specific right here. That's why they make great music. It's specific right here. No, that's why they make incredible music. Yeah, but that's what was missing in music. We still have to love our hoes, our women, everybody.

Everyone got too cool. At least they'd be talking about their feelings. They feel away. Don't act like you have not been around. Like, if you were to do a percentage-wise, of course, every man is an individual, but if we were to put data up, if we asked Saturn chat GBT,

who has the most emotional men when it comes to women in the greater North America area, what city would you say just in just in a barbershop? New York. Oh, nah. Hell no.

What? Go fuck somebody girl of indictment and see what happens. That's an ego thing, though. Nah, indictment. All of it is ego thing. What are you talking about? Everything you're saying is ego thing.

That's going to be on gang. He's going to feel more angry at the fact that he felt like he was disrespected, not that you fuck the girl that he loves. What? It's all ego. No matter how you try to slice that pot. That's ego power I did.

That's ego pie. That's not a Toronto thing. That's a man thing. Men all over. You can clean it up the logic, of course. LA, New York, Atlanta. Those that know, no, no. What I'm saying is not crazy.

Women, I've had this conversation with countless people from Canada, from America, from the UK. Toronto men, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but they just are deeply in love with the, if they say hi to a woman, that's theirs now. Okay. And they're, they're going to feel away if you say hi back. Let's put it like this. Maybe there, it's not that they love them, their holes more. It's that they're not afraid to show it more.

They're like less like, like, niggas in New York are pretend they don't look at it. Like, they, they don't. Yeah. They don't. They'll crash out. But they'll, see for the streets. And then they'll, they'll, they'll take it and they'll bury that inside. Yeah.

No. Not Toronto men going to be like, yo, why did you do that? I just don't understand how to, you make it so. And I'm not saying this about 40. No, what you're making in Toronto? They can both be married. Oh, but I spend a lot of time in Toronto. I've never ran into that, though.

Okay. Never. I'm just saying me, my person with experience, I've never ran into that. I mean, maybe you don't get pussy. I don't know. Oh. That is true. That is very true.

Maybe I don't. We'll never know. But usually what you guys say all the time, which I do disagree, it's always women that break up everything. That could be the 40 in Boy Wonder. Nah, man, it's not. I don't know where status getting that from. That broke up Drake in the weekend.

I don't know if it broke them up. It definitely did. No. I think that was more business. Wasn't a woman. No, they didn't really have business like that. He turned that down and they still remain friends. And then Drake took a shorthy out on a date.

I don't know what you're talking about. He even said it in Family Matters. We ain't do shit, but lip-locked. Like, yeah, you're supposed to be my man's, and you take my actual ex-girlfriend out. on a date publicly. But how are you trying to feel a fucking way about you? How are you talking to so many people on that record?

That specific part is 100% about the weekend. No, see, when you put 100% on it, that's what you're in trouble. You put 100% on somebody else's lips. Exactly. Pause. See, that's where you get into trouble at 100%. How do you know that? I don't.

Why do you say that's 100%? Because it is, but no, y'all got it. All right, cool. If we have to put the fact check shit under all the podcast shit, then no, I don't know. No, you said, I fucking know. You said a hundred percent. You fucking Grock can't back me up on this, but I'm telling you. Okay.

No, listen, maybe you got information I don't. I'm not mad at that. That was a pub. This isn't behind the scenes information. It's a public thing. What's the famous chick made? I'm not saying it wasn't a public thing. I'm saying you said specifically on Family Matters when he said, all I did was lip-plog.

You said that was 100% about the weekend and some girl. That's what you just said. There's no way you can't say this is about the weekend. This is 100%. I don't need confirmation. And let me do this very, very slow. because there are N words in here and you guys are not going to get me again.

If Drake Shooters doing TikToks, really shooting your gang, that's P's brother. Y'all ain't getting shit shot. Who is he talking to right here? I just want to ask. Oh, you tell me. Well, P's would we Pring, which is their mutual friend

and Prince brother is in Weekends camp. Do we assume that that's who he's talking about? Okay. Can't listen to the Stik Talk in Volsetto, save it for hip-hop. Who, who would he, is he talking about Rick Ross or is he talking about maybe a singer that sings in Volcetto? Okay, keep going.

You don't even be at home, dog. You want a souvenir out the gift shop. Still mad about that one ho. We ain't even fuck. I just lip-locked. Who is he talking about? Listen. And your 20v-1.

Who, does Metro sing in Volcetto? Does Kendrick sing in Volcetto? Where I didn't try to get, I didn't try to get, I didn't try to get all of this is from Toronto. Is Metro from Toronto? You said 100% I stand on it Yeah break it down You're not crazy

Rory I know you We're not trying to make you feel crazy You're not crazy Not at all I just said he said 100% I said okay You guys think

Kai heard us Speaking of Iceman episode 3 Not us specifically But the whole world of like All right We respect you But complex Media music list

Number one I don't know if you're the music guy He's been getting some hot takes off I know he's critique music before but he said that Iceman episode three shit was trash out the gate yeah I didn't expect him I didn't expect him to say that it's not that I don't believe that he feels that way I just didn't expect him to say that but maybe he wants to be respected in in the music space with with some hot takes

maybe or maybe he probably also feels that as well because then he tried to call drake and everyone said he was he was blocked but that's just how phones ring when someone's overseas like that's not a blocked call but I do think Drake in the petty mode that he's in probably will block Kai at some point for saying that. But I don't know, he's got, he's got young boy. He was crying at young boys' tour. He doesn't need Drake. Young boy blowing up, man.

Young boy, well, he'd been blew up, but like, he's starting to enter into- I'm saying young boy was just blowing up. I know. I'm saying that's why I corrected myself. That's why I corrected myself. He's entering into my old-ass stratosphere of old people shit, right, who's still playing a eclipse album over and over again. Like, he's starting to go viral over here.

I'm like, damn, like, NBA young boy's shows look lit. Like, oh no, it's, it's, it's show. This shit looking like something like to be at. A real, real, real fan base. But I do like seeing this because a lot of people, including myself, say, all right, you stream crazier than everyone. Can you sell a ticket? Not only is he selling crazy.

Everyone knows every fucking word. They're losing their mind. Kai is crying. Like, my bad. Yeah, seeing NBA Young Boy shows definitely, like, confirmation that I'm just old. I don't know one NBA Young Boy, like, song. And like I'm watching the clips. And I'm like, I love the like seeing the entire like stadium or arena.

Everybody into it. Everybody knowing. But it's kind of like, I'm looking at this shit like, oh, this is a whole part of the culture that I have no idea. You look like the Jay-Z meme when he was like. Yeah. Like I'm, like I'm doing this shit off. Like he's flowing.

And I'm just like, and I'm looking at, you know, just the audience and everybody knows all the lyrics and things like that. And I'm just like the energy is what is a trap. I'm like, oh, shit. Like this is a show. if you go out on stage as an artist it is your own it's it's your like there's nothing probably greater than looking out into a fucking arena and everybody knows every word you're saying like that's an artist's dream you know what I'm saying so to see that and to see everybody so like

just turned up and you know I'm saying that somebody from it's like okay like this is this is a show this is these are like his fans like people that have been waiting to see him live they couldn't wait for this moment. It couldn't wait for this tour to come to their city. Like, this is what hip hop is about. Like, rapper comes on stage. Everybody goes crazy. Nobody's trying to be, you know, cool. Everybody's standing on their seats. Shirts off, rapping. The girls know all the lyrics. The guys know the lyrics. Like, that to me is just some incredible shit to witness. But So we're going? I don't know. We should go as a social experiment. I don't know if that's the social experiment, though. I don't know if you want to socially experiment with an NBA young boy

live show. I am curious. I feel like you'll get chased out because they, I feel like his fans know. They get sense. Yeah, you know, like, you ain't supposed to be here. This ain't for you. Like, well, don't try to jump on now. Yeah. Like, we've been, this been a whole way, obviously, I'm familiar with NBA young boy. I don't know his music the way his fans, you know it, but I'm familiar with the fan base that he has. I'm familiar with the following that he has and the streaming numbers that he does. Like, all know that, but to now see it. Like night after night, he just did LA last night. Kai was there.

Kai is crying. I'm just seeing this shit. I'm just like, yo, what is happening right now? I'm curious based off the sound of stuff. Like, for example, when we saw Gucci versus Jeasy and we saw the difference, Gucci being the legend that he is, a lot of his legendary records were never mixed. They was thrown out. Like, Jezzie had Def Jam behind him with the biggest budget.

his records just feel expensive, they sound expensive. The Gucci shit didn't hit the same next to that. I've never seen an arena tour. Young Boys volume, like how much he puts out. Some of his most classic records are like two-track shit that I don't even know how it could sound in an arena. Yet when I see the footage, it looks like fucking Jay Cole's performing. That's what I want to see. Like how are these records transferring in a arena?

I've never seen anyone do that. is my young boy the type of music he makes and even some of the classic core fan base records he has are so low quality I'm not talking about him but they're low quality records

you can tell you two track it was like yo upload that to the internet now I would love like I want to know how that rings off in an arena because even Gucci Gucci has classic shit but even though just on a stream next to GZ with an expensive sound

it's like damn this is a classic GZ record but it don't hit because it just don't sound the same next to this And then in a state and an arena. Yeah, like I got to know how that sounds. All that shit from Young Boy sounds look like is going off. I love seeing people online saying, yo, if he don't perform this one, I'm going to be upset.

Like, all of that to me is just dope to see people so engaged with an artist like that. And then for NBA Young Boy to go out there and, you know, it seems like he's, you know, he's fulfilling the request. Yeah. He's doing all the joints that, you know, his fans want to hear. I just think this is some really, really dope shit. to watch. Josh, I'm sending you the viral TikTok that's like going on right now

with this girl that has like everybody like, well damn, I want to go to the NBA show. That's the one that made me want to go to the NBA show. I'm like, yo, I want to feel this passionately about music. Like, they screaming that shit like when the first month that like dreams and nightmares came out. I'm like, I want to feel that feeling again. I want to feel that bitch I'm a boss

feeling again. The niggis and Paris feeling. Like I haven't had that feeling a while. A connection to it because they lived through the time of that. That's what I'm saying. We can't go because it's like we would just be trying to get on board now and it's kind of like we're not going to understand it we need some time to really like i mean this sounds fire that she looks like that sounds fire like she's delivering the fuck out of this too i'll pause it josh for we get um which i'm gonna call it demonetized but come

on man how do you not that shit sounds fire to me i can't but like i want to go with her yeah like i want to go with somebody that's gonna like wrap those lyrics in my face so i start to feel like oh this is this is see that's why i know this is close to your chest you know how I'm at shows. I'm just standing there literally just watching the artist perform. I'm not, you've been to me to me with Drake shows. You're like, you're just standing there. And I know all these records.

I don't know all of these records. So I'm really going to be listening, standing there, watching young boy perform. And I can't go with somebody that knows and they hyped and they're trying to get me. I'm like, oh, bro, I don't even know what he's saying. Niggas will be mosh-pitting. Yeah, so it's fake if I go, because I don't even know these songs like that. So some of them, I'm like, I might know a couple of the,

The ball's like, okay, yeah, I remember that ball right there. But these people are, like you said, Roy, they grew up with this shit. They lived with this music. They couldn't wait for Young Boy to come to their city. Like, they've been waiting for this moment for years. So now that it's here, I just think it's dope to see it. And shout out the Young Boy, man, because, you know, being able to develop a fan base like this and all of these years of curating this, this sound for your audience. And now being able to go to these cities and sell out these arenas is, it's some dope.

shit so salute they be a young boy man I'm gonna check it out I feel like I've always judged him by the way he looked Mm-hmm Like I mean he looked like every other Yeah no that's why I don't listen to them If I if I didn't listen to that If I met you he looked like who else

Who? A bunch of artists you listen to It's the same look Who? Who? Who? Dematch you listen to ratchet shit Not men That's what I listen to women ratchet shit I don't listen to men ratchet shit I don't know none of this shit

None of these people Oh okay If I will meet you in a dark alley And I'll look like I've be afraid of you like I should cross the street. I don't really check your music out. I don't know. And I shouldn't do that.

I should be better, which is why I'm going to check out some of MBA's music. I don't be listening to these rappers with the tattoos and shit on their face like that. I don't listen to that. You listen to Wayne? I was just about to say. Okay. Wayne.

The original, the creator, right? But these new ones, no. And y'all don't either. Why am I looking at me like I'm crazy? Oh, no. I've tried with a young boy. I'm aware that he has been a superstar and his, own right with his fan base for a long time. I've seen the numbers. I've tried. I've done the

Jay-Z headbop like pretending like I think this is all right but I'm never going to listen to again. But I need somebody like that girl to sell it to me with the green hair. What's what's worse with a concert going with somebody that's way too cool like I'm all bringing up the Drake show when we was there or for example, Diani, Scotty Beam, love you to death. Every cold show I go to with her. She's rapping every fucking word in my face. the entire time. Oh, y'all should have shown me. I was insane at the cold show.

I was insufferable. No, I can't see. I can't. Because I feed off Deionis energy. It makes it feel a little bit better. Like sometimes I'll wrap back with her. I get mad if I'm in the car and somebody's rapping the whole song. Oh, no.

The car, that's too much. So now if we have to show a loud enough for you can wrap a lot. If we have to show, if we have to show it, you keep jumping in my ear and my face trying to get balls. It's worse. It's like, yo, shut the fuck. The artist is right here in front of us. Like, let them do that.

You shut. You shut. You shut up. Nah, that was me at Cole. I was touring. But you wrapped along at a concert before, no? I'm not saying screaming in someone's face, but. Yeah, but I'm not grabbing you trying to, like, get you, like.

But to that type of show, that's what you got to do. At this show, you got to punch somebody in their face. Yeah. Like, you got to punch somebody in their face. For interest, it's like a yellow shirt. Yeah, this is, this is. That's just what this is. But it's, it's, it's, it's dope to see it.

It's definitely dope to see it. I know he did L.A. last night, I think. I'm not sure where else's going, but. Yo. I got to download more and be a young boy music and learn the music more. Before I can go to a live show, I can't just go out there not knowing. I got to know the music. I have to know the music.

He comes into Newark, September 29th. Almost birthday. Well, not your actual birthday, but your birthday weekend. Yeah, no. No. I would have considered the garden or Barclays. Oh, Barclays, September 27. I live closer to the Prudential Center.

He's at Barclay September 27? Yeah. Yo, the Jersey crowd, the Jersey young boy crowd? I'm good. That is going to be the most terrifying. I'm scared. The Newark show compared to the garden show, which by the way is 20 minutes away from each other, is going to be.

Two different worlds. No, I'm cool. I'm going to the born in Brooklyn. I promise you I'm not going to the one in Newark. You bug the fuck out. It was get-up for a Gen. If you're going to experience it, maybe the Newark one is the one. Yeah.

But I got to. Yeah. I got to get the real feeling. But they're going to shoot outside that shit. Yeah. Newark? I'm cool. I feel like I got to wear shiky if I go, though.

I got to. But then you're going to be like everybody else. You got to stand up. Nah, no, you got to blend. I have to blend in. Where's, where in a suit for NBA Youngboy show? They will beat the shit out of me. First of all, they're going to think I'm a narc.

And you're like, who this police has? For sure. A suit at an NBA Young Boy show? No. No, you can't do that. Just like we go into the GZ orchestra show. No, absolutely. Oh, that's fine.

No, it's not. I promise you was not. Nah. I feel like NBA Young Boy show should change the rules for arenas. I should be able to walk in with no shirt. This people didn't even with no shirts on. Well, they walked in with a shirt on. They took it off after.

I'm saying I should be able to show up with no shirt at all. I mean, you know. As a young boy ever, like, wants a little high. Yeah. Ooh. Oh, I thought that was his whole aesthetic. He's just shirtless old. No, he, he went, he went some shit on stage.

I mean, I'm sure at some point he might take his shirt off and really get into the, you know, into the night. But it's just. dope to see it, man. All the clips I'm saying is the energy is, I haven't seen bro, I'm not going to lie, that type of energy is crazy for the entire arena to be. You know how hard it is to sell

tickets period right now, let alone an arena? And that type of clip? Yeah. Yeah. And like I said, his fan base is very, they've been waiting for this shit. They've been way, they couldn't wait for this tour. And you know, they're dedicated fans because I'm not going to get into, everyone makes mistakes. But I feel

like every other month I'm seeing some wild shit the young boy is doing like those are loyal he could do anything the fact how he's moved on certain things or how the internet has painted him and you could still sell out arenas this way yeah they love your music philly i'd rather die yeah philly would be kind of nuts he signed a motown well i mean it merged they all merged it's musical chairs like he didn't he didn't sign to the same motown no shit rory oh he was in a Oakland, that wasn't even LA? That was Oakland last? Oh, what dates is that? No, he's in Oakland tonight.

Oh, yeah. Well, tomorrow. Okay. He was in LA last night, though. Okay. On the low, I think the Phoenix show might be the scariest. Because I know the Mexicans love young boy. That might be, it would rival between Norfolk and Phoenix to the scariest shows on the store. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. St. Louis and Chicago might. Wait, hold on. St. Louis for sure.

Baltimore, I don't know. I'm not going to no NBA young boys show. In Baltimore, I'm cool. I'm cool. Oh, no, that's Chicago one that's scary. Because he had beef for Chicago. Like, he had beef for Dirk. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, oh, yeah. So, yeah, man. Hopefully, you know, I mean, hopefully nothing happens. We don't want to get no news about anything negative or crazy happening because seeing this type of energy is just dope to see people go out and support their artists. but we know the history of him

and certain Chicago artists, so. Y'all don't know nobody from that side? From what side? NBA young boy's side. Listen, I told you when I went to Baton Rouge a couple months ago and she told me, oh, this young boy's hood, I said, can we just not be here then?

We was driver. She said, yeah, is where are you from? I was like, well, then let's take a left and a left and get the fuck out of here. You're scared? Yeah. You thought I was going to say, no, yeah, nigga. Actually, the fuck.

They were scared. They walk around with the assault rifles just out. Like, it ain't even illegal. Yeah, I don't need to be there. Hopefully you're going to talk again in a couple years and I could, I want to learn. No, I want to go now. Now to prime. I want to go now.

I want to go to now. I don't know the music. It's fake if I go now. I don't know. I don't know the music or you. Actually, people, a lot of people tend to go to shows to learn new music. You don't got to go to the show and know every song. You got to know the music, man.

That's like going to the game and not knowing who playing. I don't know these. You discover, you discover songs because a lot. A lot of songs you might put on like in your headphones and be like, turn this shit off, right? But you go to the show and you see shirted with the green hair doing all that. It's like, wait, hold on. What's this song? Let me, that's why you're supposed to go check out new shows.

Local artists, all of that stuff. Man, sitting at the young boy show in the, the mosh pit trying to hold your phone up for Shazam. Yeah, they're going to knock you up. Who's going to? No, I would be in the skybox somewhere. Put me in a suite. Let me just chill up here, look down at, you know, the real fans. I just want to hear the music and see the performance.

Like, let me, I can't be in the. I need to touch the thing. Nah, I can't be in that. That's crazy. What's the most dangerous show you've ever been to? The most dangerous show I've ever been to? Even if it turned out that way and you didn't anticipate it. The most dangerous show.

I've never been to a dangerous show. I feel like it may have been somebody at Irvin Plaza. Well, not that time. Oh, the Nipsey Hustle one. Water, Crips in the building. But I felt safe. This was in New York? Irvin Plaza.

Okay. Yeah, I feel like it was, I can't remember who it was, though. I felt safe, though. I feel like it was Irvin Plaza. Okay. Might have been. I was in there. I remember having a feeling like, yeah, the energy in here is a little, it's a little tense.

But never in like, never at the garden. I never met at the show at the garden where I felt that. Well, I mean, you did say you were in the hallway when R. Kelly walked down and violence ensued. You say he didn't want... That was kind of dangerous. There was a gun there. He said he didn't want nobody looking them in his eyes. And then somebody allegedly put pepper spray in his eyes.

Yeah, but that wasn't dangerous. That was R&B. That wasn't like dangerous. I mean, speaking of Newark and Jersey in general, Hot 97 once did... Remember when they used to do those like next up or who's next shows? Which I appreciate. They was trying to get like local talent and they did one that was just specific to

Jersey with a bunch of jersey acts I want to say trech hosted it as well that was the most violent show I think I've ever been that like they rivaled what when sagon prodigy and all the Queensbridge fought at SOBs with that legendary footage there was so much tension in that small fucking venue yeah that was probably the one time been a show where I'm like I don't I don't know if this is worth worth staying here like yeah i'll be a bystandard somehow in this entire show i can't remember who was at irvin plaza like who was before it may have been meek and somebody else and i was just like yeah this energy and here was just a little you know you know that energy where it's just like the faces ain't friendly nobody's smiling it's not a lot of women you know

those shows of course you know it was just like all right man i'm about to well let me stand close to the exit because it might go down ahead. I've told you guys the story of when I was DJing at the New Eureka with my man's and we got into it and I thought I was going to die with the guys from Connecticut. Yep. So there was another time I was DJing from Mazz that was opening up for, I won't say his name, he was signed to the lock, not the locks, to D Block at the time. And we were opening up for him based off his manager's relationship with D Block.

But my man's was on some singing and rapping shit. It wasn't that type of crowd. Yeah. This is like when you really got to cut your teeth and earn your keep. Like what it's like to feel like you're dying on stage of just going record to record. Somebody that was affiliated with that artist, twice my size, in the middle of my man performing. We had like an intricate DJ set. I was trying to mix certain stuff.

Like we had a set. We've rehearsed. It's cues. He's waiting for this moment. Cues, like all this entire thing. It's full fucker. Over me. hits the fader and puts it to the side and says,

it's time for you out of leave. In the middle of the performance? Yeah. But I was on vinyl, so I had two things playing. So it didn't affect, like my man kept rapping. And it was the first time of my life where I was like, I'm about to say something that I know I'm going to die, but I have no other option.

Got to be a man. Yeah, I had no other option. I know this is not going to end well. I said, ain't no fucking way. We got three more fucking songs. Get away from me. Let's just say, we were handled outside of the building, but my man finished the set. No, handled.

But you finished the set, though. Finish the set. Handled. We get beat up outside, but we finished the set, though. That's what that matters. And my man who I love did what every opening act does, because the locks are supposed to be special guests with this guy as well. It was like on the flyer. So when you're just drowning in a set and it's dead quiet and standing like there,

Yo, get the fuck off the stage. Yo, who's ready to see the locks? Whole crowd erupts. And he said for the last song, he went. Yeah, no, cut it. Let's get the fuck out of it. We was in there, because this was 2009, like when we were on the blog era type of rap, and that crowd was not trying to hear none of that shit.

He was really singing. He was, like, had an R&B part. It was a bunch of dudes in champion hoodies waiting to see if style was going to show up. It was one of the crazy. experiences. But no, we were physically handled out of that. Toad's place? No, no, no. It was in the city. Oh, was it?

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Excited? Um, you know, if I didn't have this job, I would feel more excited for the album because I could then just enjoy it like a normal person. What you mean? Why you can't enjoy it? No, I'm going to enjoy it. But I don't want to have to talk about it. I don't want to have to hear critique on it.

I don't want to have to defend it. I don't want to have to not defend it. I don't want to have to critique it myself. I don't want to have to do that. I just want to be able to be a fucking album. You just say how you feel about the music that you heard. Yeah, but I also don't want to have to do that on a club of the platform. My job is my job. I love my job. I respect my job. But sometimes as a music listener or a fan of an artist, I wish I could just listen to the fucking music and I have to talk to people about it in public. That don't make sense.

I understand. But I mean, you can, though. Like, you don't have to think about, you know, your feelings and your, your perspective on what you're listening to are yours, and you can say how you feel. I understand what you're saying, though. Like, you're like, people going to try to say, I'm defending it, or da-da-da-da. People are going to think it's wag, and, you know, you don't want to go against what the masses are saying because then you look like you just, you know, caping or caping for,

for Cardi. I get that. But it's okay to, you know, express how you feel about what you're experiencing and what you're listening. Yeah. But sometimes I don't want to, you know, sometimes I don't want to express it. But I am looking forward to the album. I'm excited.

Y'all know I love Cardi and yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think she's confident about the music. Obviously, she would promote her album no matter what. And we know vinyl sales and all the pre-order stuff counts way more to Billboard than it does with streams. So she's trying to push that as much as possible so the numbers can reflect because that matters to Cardi in that world. But I feel like she's come across as confident about this album, like that she really, really likes it. So she seems like she's happy with it. Yeah. But before, admittedly, I felt like, all right, this is a little weird. I don't know if she feels

confident about this entire thing. She's coming across like she's actually really excited for everyone here this project. So I hope it's good. Me too. I'm looking forward to it. It's been, like I said, you know, since between the first one and now, we've waited this long. But hopefully they got it to a place where the music is strong and it's good. And, you know, I'm looking forward to him with her on the team did for sure yeah um i don't know man i'm i'm nervous for her and that's what nervous about what the music not being good um i i guess it's like empathy to to some degree and that's why i think it's funny that the whole bardy gang thinks like i dislike cardy and even carty to some degree thinks that like i want this to work so well for because this is a

crossroads no matter what. Cardi will always be a superstar. She has her legacy. She's like everything is there no matter what. But this is a big fucking crossroads. Like I want this to work. I want this to be a great story. I don't want it to be like, damn, this is, this ain't, this ain't it.

Yeah, I'm nervous. I'm nervous for her. This is a bigger moment. Shit, even I know they said don't compare all women rappers, but I'm not even doing it because she's a woman. I'm just comparing Nikki on her last project. I was so happy to see that it just did really. well because it's hard to do that all the time. No matter what, Nikki's legacy is that. It could have

flop and it'd be like, that's still Nikki. Don't get it twisted. Right. I was happy to see that it did really well. I was happy to see that she did an arena tour and it's so crazy. Like, yeah, I don't, I don't want to see people that have been in the game this long to just for it to fail. Because that's a crossroads. How old is Cardi? She's younger than me. This is like when I feel for running backs. Like, yeah, they make it. What? A running, a running backs. career is on average, how many years do you think? Maybe three, four. You get in a league on average at 22 years old.

You could be a legend and only get to 28 years old. Now you're on earth at 28 years old with no career and all you've ever done your whole life was this. Yeah. Like I feel that same way with rappers and A-listers in this regard. Like, if it flopped, like what do you do? Well, I mean, either way, Cardi will be fine. You know what I mean? For sure, but it's definitely a big.

It's a big moment. This is probably the biggest, biggest moment for her period. But it's a huge moment because, again, coming off of the success of the first one. And then everything she's done in. Everything she's done in between that, all of the things that she's accomplished between albums. So obviously this is why the moment is so big. And people are, you know, anticipating it because she's a superstar. But I think that, you know, she seems like she seems like she's happy.

She's comfortable. she had some legal things she had to kind of deal with in between the rollout that kind of like you know seemed like it would affect a little bit but she seems like she's past that moved on and um you know i like everything she's doing as far as rolling it out and you know she was in Harlem with the vinyl on a blanket on the on the on the sidewalk selling you know vinals and things like that um so i think she she she looks like she's happy with the product if the first and again why i'm nervous If the first one flopped, it would have been, okay, I told y'all she's a reality TV star. Like, that tried to make music.

Like, what did y'all think this was going to be? If this one... But it wasn't that. She proved everybody wrong. Absolutely. And now it's like, all right, you're established a step. Now it's game time for real. So, you know, I hope it's great.

I'm on the same side as Demaris. Like, I just want it to be good. I don't want to have to come in here and say bad things. That's really... I want it to be good music. I think it's going to be good music. I feel the same way about Ice Cube. I mean, if this album that comes out tomorrow, like, what do we say about Ice Cube's legacy?

This does nothing for Ice Cube legacy. Ice Cube is Ice Cube legend. Like, what do you really think about Death Certificate after NWA, all the movies? This affects nothing. No, I think this is the determining factor crossroads for Ice Cube, in my opinion. Absolutely. Our Cube is Cube, man. We not, this means this product, this man up.

No, it means nothing. I would have loved, and I know it's not. You know, I know Cube has his own business. Great business, man. I would have liked Cube to be part of this mass appeal year. Now that he's putting out, like, I think that would have been cool to have that full West Coast type thing with the legacy acts that they're doing. Because, I mean, I can't stop listening to that Supreme Clinto to shit. What Mass Appeal is doing is great.

I would have a Cube to be, because we don't have a Cuban-Naz record. Nope. I just think the mass appeal touch on this, by that, I mean, Nas. could have been really cool with Q putting out music this year. That would have been like the big missing piece to me and everything that they're doing. I hate that. People don't really understand who Ice Cube is as like an artist or rapper.

Like people don't really don't know. Like, a lot of people know Ice Cube from movies and film and things like that. And, you know, obviously the big three, we've been able to do with that. But like, people don't really know, like, Ice Cube was like he represented the West Coast. Like he's one of the greatest from the West Coast. I mean, hip hop period. But like what he did for California and that sound, obviously NWA, but like as a solo artist, Cuba is like, you know, a legend in every sense of the word. Obviously now being an older guy and, you know, still being able to have his feet under him as far as like an ear for mus and things like that.

I don't think he'll ever lose that and be able to write. But people are not going to respect. Like if people listen to this now and the. project is, they'm like, me, Ice Cube is trash. Like, if this is their first time hearing Ice Cube. They have no connections to what his legacy of rapping is. They have no idea who Ice Cube is. Like maybe, maybe they heard today was a good day.

Maybe they heard that, but they don't really know. They don't, they don't know. I mean, I think everyone younger than me, the first record they probably heard from Ice Cube was, I could do it, put you back into it. That's probably, which is kind of like nuts. Like, do you guys know this guy's history? America's shit from the NWA to death certificate. Lynch mob, all that.

Like, yeah. But that, who else you think that happens with? I think that happens with L.L. I think that happens with, I'm not comparing Will Smith to LL and Q by any means, but I think when just people get to the Hollywood status that way, it kind of erases, like, do you really know this guy is? Yeah, like what he did with music, yeah. Like even the younger people, and I'm not here to make political shit,

but when everyone was killing Ice Cube, when he sat, with Tucker. I was like, all right, guys, you guys know who Ice Cube, like, the risks he's taken. This is somebody that's really walked it like they talk it. Like, you can't, if Cube is doing something, it's intentional and he knows what the fuck he's doing. You can't put that on Cube.

They tried to cancel Cube for wanting to sit down with Trump. Like, people were active, like, oh, Ice Cube is canceled. I'm like, do y'all know what you're trying to cancel? Like, you're trying to cancel Ice Cube. Like, what, y'all, y'all clearly don't know who Ice Cube is. You have no idea the risks he's taking the shit. They don't know ice-key. This isn't the way Yey was just trying to have a moment by taking a photo in front of the elevator with Trump.

Not saying a word. This is somebody's vocal forever. Like he's here to actually try to make some change on something. From the time he came in the game. Like that's what he represented was like, you know, going against whatever was in place, whatever government policies, things like that. You know, being a voice for the people in the community that he from there. He represents the things that, you know, we had to deal with. Like, so, you know, that let you know that they don't know Ice Cube.

They just got introduced to him a few years ago. They don't really know the things that Ice Cube represents and what he's done and what he's continuing to do as far as, you know, breakdown barriers and create opportunities for people that look like him and come from the places that he come from. Like, this is something that Ice Cube is represented for ever. But that happens a lot with, sorry, Roy, like, just cancel culture when it comes to people's insertion and politics. like half of the people don't even understand the politics that they're trying to cancel people over. And this isn't me standing up for Trump in no way. I don't want those two things to get conflicted. But a lot of people are just canceling what their side of the news or says that they should cancel.

Like there's no nuance in these conversations. There's no like who is the right person to talk to this person about this issue. It's just everything is just so black and white or red and blue. And people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. It's like there's this depth to knowledge, deaf to nuance. Not even just in politics and music and everything. Like no one takes the time to do research before they just throw an opinion out or throw a fake cancellation out there. It's absolutely.

Yeah. Because, I mean, I think I'm just going to trust that the man that wrote the entire record, fuck the police in 1988, has good intentions. Right. In anything he's doing. Somebody in 1990 that named their album, America's Most Wanted with three Ks. Yeah. Like, I'm just going to go ahead and- I think he knows what he's doing.

I think it's intentioning are pretty pure in what is going on. But Cube, I mean, to y'all, I'm a little young. I think Cube is great, but your generation, I've noticed with people your age, anytime we do the debates of like top five's top top ten, your whole generation always has Q. Within seven, I've noticed. Oh, yeah. Like y'all from 80 to 84, y'all revere Cube. like a whole different level.

I fuck with Q, but I was a little young. I had to go back to all that. And I wasn't there for it. So, of course, I respect and love Q, but I wouldn't put him in my personal top 10. Like, I was just banging Cube all the time. Y'all generation, he's God. I mean, the reason why, even if you go look at his films and things like that,

where you go look at the Friday series, the reason why Friday was such a big film is because Cube was such a big deal. Like, he was a big name. I mean, boys in the hood before? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, even boys in the hood. Like, those were. monumental films because, I mean, obviously the storyline and things like that were great as well.

But Ice Cube being the figure, being the face of those moments in those films, that's why those things happened because it was like, though, that's Ice Cube. Like, he was, all of the guys that y'all think are like big and superstars now, like Ice Cube was that times 10 in the 90s. Like, I didn't want to shit the 80s even. Like he was that. and to see what he's continuing to do now in film and in business and things like that, you know, I think it's just incredible. It speaks to, you know, the guy that had the mind back then at such a young age of creating his own way and his own opportunity and doing it his way. So salute the Q, man.

Yeah. And even to close, I'm here to say the way we talk about Jamie Fox and how talented he is and how many hands he has and so many things creatively. I don't think it's crazy to say that Qube is not close. to that status as well of every box that he's checked when it comes to creativity because he was not only acting in those he was writing those movies to he was producing those movies he could be funny he could be a serious actor rap career we already know us over there like cube is up there is one of the most talented people that i've ever seen in my life absolutely yeah i think cube needs to get brought in that that jamy conversation sometimes absolutely i mean he's not like he didn't do ray

Also, Jamie is not the musician that Cube has been. So you cannot compare Ice Cube's catalog from NWA to his solo. You said he's not the musician. And I'm just like, the guy that plays the instruments and can also sing and can also write music, we're not going to dumb down Jamie Fox's artistry or musician. No, no. Who's doing that? I'm not saying that.

He's not the musician that he is. When I hear musician, I hear musicianship. Like, I don't, rapping and musicianship are two different things. I just wanted to clarify that. Fair, but let's not act. Even when, like, Cube was working with Bomb Squad, when he was working with Dre and Yell, you can see the difference when Cube works with producers as well. Cube is definitely very much involved.

Oh, for sure. And, you know, not to take anything away from MC Wren, because I think MC Ren is very much underrated. Every, every iconic, easy verse. pre before the split that's cube the dray shit that's cube cube's own solo verses don't even need to get into

cube is one of the greatest writers that's ever existed in rap history no you just said musician and then demariter that was like writing in musicianship very very similar to some 100 yeah so I understand what de meres is in would pushback there but if we're talking music cube surpasses Jamie Fox

is not close acting of course Jamie Fox surpasses Cube and it's not close but they're both in the realm of both of those higher than any of their peers. Yeah, for sure. Did I just keep having, did he have a TV? Was he in the TV show? Did he have a sitcom?

I feel like. Maybe a season or something? Possibly. I feel like I've seen. Or maybe we just feel like he should have been in one. And you know what? I said, but. Are he there yet turned into a sitcom.

Okay. And it ran for three seasons on TBS. Okay. I know I remember. seeing Cube on like TV other than film like I just can't remember what it was and listen I actually kind of take back the acting that Jamie's far better of course Jamie Fox is better than Ice Cube at that like Ice Cube's never done a ray but go through Cube's filmography like it's a think a little closer than people would would say between comedy and serious stuff I mean boys in the hood to

begin with. Barbershop, I know it turned into by the third one. It got into like the Tooby shit, but let's not act like Barbershop One was not a classic, extremely well-acted movie. Shibborshop 2. Yeah, no, Barbershop 2 is great. Even on, I don't know, like from CB4 to Friday to next Friday, all those, like, to be that good at comedy and then also that good at serious acting, let's not say that he's,

that far off. He doesn't have the blockbusters that Jamie does, but that's a good fucking actor, no? Absolutely. No, he's definitely, nobody's saying he's not a good actor. It's just he also tends to kind of, I don't want to say play the same role,

but similar. Like, because Ice Cube has that angry ass face, most of the things he plays in, they're casting him as an angry person because of the weight of his faces. That's just, yeah. Like, no matter what the role is, Or serious serious.

Even in his comedic. And Friday, he was funny, but he wasn't the comedy. Well, he always liked, even with all about the Benjamins, he would play the more serious guy to Mike Epps the way he would with Chris, Chris Tucker Mike. But he still had. He's hilarious. He's hilarious. Oh, he's fucking hilarious.

He's hilarious naturally. But the character that he's playing tends to be a typecast, angry, more serious character. That just is what it is. It doesn't say anything about his acting ability. It's just he hasn't really had the range to. stretch that. Like, I don't watch Ice Cube and forget that I'm watching Ice Cube. But I can watch Jamie Fox and forget that I'm watching. Oh, for sure. I mean, yeah. No, I hear you there. But even, I think it's a stat too that Friday, Players Club next Friday, all about the

Benjamins, Friday after next, Janky promoters, he wrote all of those two. Fire. Like, that's, that's a different talent. And, and Barbershop, I felt like they brought him more of the softer role in that. Like, he wasn't, he wasn't, he wasn't Cube and all those other ones. It was his shop. He wasn't like, no, but he didn't play Ricky. Like, he played the calmer guy. Like, you, stop like, I, stop the shit. So, I don't know. I mean, I'm glad we got on a give Ice Cube his flowers rant.

He deserves them. Go Ice Cube. Yeah. And I believe the album's called Man Up, which is out now if you're listening to this. I'm definitely going to listen to it. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. And of course they are sponsored by Boost.

That's how everyone even called in. Steve from Austin, Texas is rapping. for Roy, how do you feel about your boy, Connor McGregor running for president for Ireland? One, you think he's qualified. And two, if Trump could get elected over here, do you think he could elect it? Let me know.

Greg is running for president? Where? In Ireland. Really? Oh, shit. I can't quite answer this of his qualifications. Because all he's been saying is I'm running for president. He hasn't given us a stand.

I don't know his policy between Northern Ireland. I haven't like, now, to your point of anyone get elected, Trump was a real estate guy, then to a reality TV star, became a celebrity, then became that, I'm not saying anyone can get elected. She, Ronald Reagan was an actor. The Terminator became a fucking governor. Anything is possible. Right.

I just, I don't know where, what Connor's stances are. Maybe he's really into political science. I don't know. Yeah. The only thing I've seen is I'm running for president and Azalea Banks, here's my dick. It's like the only two things that I've seen for this rollout. I'm not familiar with, you know, politics over in Ireland. But I don't know if Connor has a shot.

Legally, he qualifies, but I mean, legally most people qualify. Legally, I qualify in America. Hey, I'm just kidding. Does that mean I should run? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. No, if we're being serious, of course not. But the Irish politics, I mean, they do need, not to be corny.

They do need people that are going to push back and fight. Like, even if you get down to the... Well, he can fight. The Israel and Palestine conflict. Ireland has always been the only Western country that has always stood with Palestine. And it's a country that has to push back on a lot because all of our allies being other white countries, we don't align with the same agreements. Obviously, which goes to our history, which we still can't even get that sliver of Northern Ireland back from you fucking Brits. Yeah, I mean, you need somebody strong.

I just don't know if McGregor, like, just running in there. There's the answer. I don't know if that's the guy. He's pushing a lot. He's facing a lot of pushback because kind of her. Gregor has rape cases and allegations. So one that he lost a civil case. So does our current president.

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that he's, this is why he's facing. At this point, like, I think you need one that it's kind of like, nobody cares. They don't trust the leader

unless he has those cases. Yeah, like, is he a real person? Like, yeah, no. No, I mean, I think why McGregor, outside of being a talented fighter, why he made it even further

is because he's a very talented marketer. I think that's the same. reason Mayweather was like I'll even do this UFC boxing shit with you like all right fine I'll let a UFC guy box me because you are a promoter mm-hmm you know how to do this shit that's all this that's all he's doing okay I don't think he's seriously running but I said the same thing about Trump so who they'll they'll pull this clip back in five years and at his inauguration so I don't know anything's possible yeah literally anything's possible not

That call was for you. I have nothing to say. I didn't even know he was running. But what is the St. Thomas government? Do you think Tim Duncan can run? He's from St. Croix. Why do I always think he's from St. Thomas? Because you just hear St.

And just think it's... No, that's not true. You're dyslexic, so you know, you think everything is just... Well, then I'd call it Thomas St. Little Saint. Little St. St. Thomas. Rest in peace.

St. St. Aides. Just spoke to about cubes. See all that time's together? Fair. Well, yeah, I think Tim Duncan could make a run. Yeah, absolutely. He's probably the biggest export out of St. Croix ever.

So, I mean, definitely. I don't know if he will, though. He doesn't, I don't think he has the person, not personality, but he's very mild-mannered, soft-spoken. I don't think politics is. That's what they need out there. But I don't think Tim Duncan now. That's nice thing. What state do y'all think would allow y'all to be like mayor or governor, like Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Who? I want to make sure everyone knows that DeMera said that and I didn't. It's Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? Arnold Schwarzenegger. Oh, it was Nager. Yes. Oh, I always thought it was Nigger. Like the, I didn't know the E was a A.

I thought it was a E. So I thought it was nigger. Fuck it. Anyway, Arnold, Arnie, the Terminator. Do y'all think y'all could be mayor or governor in any state, in any state, like how he was? No. No. Really?

I don't even think I could be the head of the block club in my neighborhood. Like, the block club. What the fuck? Watch, you could be president neighborhood watch. There was never block clubs. You walked like the president of neighborhood watch. They tried to like have one person

that would go to all over like all that shit. They'd represent your street to go talk to people. They weren't really elected. A block club? Yeah, it was more like. No, not neighborhood watch. It would just be people on your street that there would be one person that'd be like,

all right, you are the one that goes to the meetings to talk about our specific. That was the Latin kings in my hood. That was, yeah. I had to go over there and talk to them. You know what I mean? The show was good. Pull over there, the bloods, the crips.

I don't know what you talk about. Like, that's, my hood. And they went to the community meetings to talk about the potholes in the street. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. No, just the pot in the streets, not the pothos. It was different. Not the potholes.

No, I don't even think I could do that. I have been getting, since I've been a homeowner, though. I do go to way more community meetings. and that's just strictly because I think I'm a homeowner. And like now... You kind of have to. Yeah, I need to know what it's going. It really, like, affects the property value of this entire thing.

Like, I'm sick of this shit. Yeah. Like, we need to cut all these phone wires. This is insane. The Verizon guy, it took three hours just for him to sift through the thousands of wires that aren't even connected. Like, what's going on? Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, I could be part of that.

But I don't think I have the time for it. Like to be ahead of that? Nah. No, too much. What if that's paying well? They usually don't, though, right? They're not. No.

Politicians don't get paid well unless they have shit going on outside of actual. I mean, they all get paid well, but it's not technically from there. Politicians do not get paid well, but anybody that enters Congress, Senate, President, you see for some really weird reason their net worth quadruple once they get that position, but they only get paid $200,000. President gets paid what? Like $400,000? Which is a lot of money.

Don't get me twisted, but to be the leader of the richest nation, $400,000 is not a lot. because you know you're getting your money otherwise and then you can buy an $8 million house in Martha's Vineyard who's counting can we look up can we look up what uh Nancy Pelosi is paid per year and then can we look at Nancy Pelosi's net worth let's can we compare those two now that's a topic yeah you want to get into it sorry Nancy I'm not just using you because it's everybody but yours is like Nancy is like pay pay my bitch make bread. Let's see what AI says here.

174 per year, which is great money, great, great money. Can we now type in what her net worth is? Yeah. Well, maybe she was gifted a house by her family. Gifted. I love when they say gifted.

She's worth $267 million. Investments. Investment. Real estate. Why is it when any time lawmakers enter in there, all of a sudden, their network just fucking goes? Fuck out of it.

It goes in a... I just... I don't get it. I know who does get it. And he's making changes. He's ringing the bell on all that shit. Shit. Wasn't there one president that, like, wanted to make a statement?

It was like, I only want to take a penny per year. And we was like, do, but we know how much you make... Oh, my God. Just take the $400,000 salary. Don't insult my intelligence this much. So I don't think anyone would have us demarest. That's all I'm saying. Yeah.

I mean, I agree, but I was just wondering if you guys... No, we can make change. It's easy to make change. You just talk about it and don't do nothing. Exactly. You just yell really loud. Show up at events in the city and put on a little hat that represents the union. Oh, I thought you were going a different place.

Maybe that's a cue to Emmys. When you said a little hat, I was like, oh, are we going there? Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just Jewish. Peace. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. It's much more famous than I am.

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