New Rory & MAL - Episode 406 | Guardian Angels

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Well, we got it wrong. We gotta kick off the pod apologizing to Terence Crawford. Young Thug felt the need to drop a 7+ min track apologizing to Drake, but nobody gave a damn. Glorilla dropped a diss of her own that didn't land. Mal wants to join the Guardian Angels to save the city from crime. Plus we call out a caller for trying to use our voicemail segment for manipulation, and another voicemail has us explaining what quality in a woman makes men cheat #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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pretty good. I did get some sleep last night, though, so I feel way better than I did a couple days ago. But I'm happy to be here. Good, man. Happy to address the culture. Who do you have to address? It's something, I could tell when you have something that you, your energy and I walked in, like you're on your laptop, you're sitting crazy close to the screen.

Like, whenever you sit close to your laptop screen, I know that it's something that you can't wait to get on this couch and talk about or this senior chair and talk about that's something we can talk about on Friday what I was so close

to the spring with that's how close I'm more her iPad yeah once you say Friday I know what it is oh yeah

listen I haven't slept so I left you alone I didn't hit your phone no weekend I know this is a busy busy week for you so yeah but other than that

everything is great my weekend was cool I had to apologize to Demaris I sent her a nude oh my bad no I didn't accidentally send

Tamaris a nude oh okay she was a good friend I needed a break and she went on a dummy mission for me to get some wild energy away from me I did not want to go to a strip club

I wanted to go back to the studio I had things to do I was with a group of people that was gun ho on throwing money we didn't have at strippers to have an awful time So Damaris and Yombs Mahomes came through for me and took this group of people to the strip club so I could go back to Jersey. Okay.

But it's one of those like no good deed goes unpunished. Okay. Because I know Demaris was going through it. Hmm. From the lower east side to Queens and back. See, that's corny. Why you ain't called me? Now it's why I ain't called you.

That's what I'm saying. That's corny. You just said you didn't see me this weekend. We were supposed to hang out, right? And I said, oh, yeah, we were. We did talk about watching the fight together. Come to find out, you was in the strip club looking at ass and didn't hit my phone. Oh, where you was coming from all the way the fuck up bumba fuck where you live,

all the way to Astoria to go to a strip club. I mean, if you would have told me like, yo, I got some friends with me, you know, like we're just hanging out. Well, no, now I think about it, Demers, he could have. Because we left from the office. We went to the San Gennaro Festival. Then we went to dinner with Sean. then the hookah spot, then the strip club.

You would have just done the quintessential New York City date with us. You could have went to the strip club. Mall would have killed himself by the third spot. Yeah, for sure. He couldn't went to dinner with y'all, though. That was fucked up. Yeah. Then it was fucked up?

No, I didn't go to dinner. Me and I was with Yomi's partner, shout out to her. I was with, we were. Your partner? Yeah. Like her girlfriend? Yes. Why not just say her girlfriend?

Because that ain't no my business. What you mean? Partner sounds correct. Partner could be funny. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's how Tiar refers to everyone. We got to stop this shit. Partner?

Yes. Like if somebody's like y'all so mall, he was with his partner. That sounds like, that sounds like I'm, you saw me with us. I will say anytime I use partner, it's 100% with a gay couple. I've never said with a straight couple. That's so crazy, though. Just save a girlfriend. In a work environment, right?

So this is corporate speak, but in a work environment, you're actually supposed to refer to them as your partner because it makes other people who are gay not have to out like that they're dating similar sexes. So I'm used to using like partner in that. But where's the corporate setting it? We're small. Here? Here.

We graduated from LLC. We're small corporation. No, Demarish, you could say girlfriend here. I promise you. Nobody's going to write you up. You're not going to have no meeting. Like you could just say, yo, yo me.

It was me, yo me and her girlfriend. Done. Like nobody's going to be like, I see you Tuesday morning. Like, what are you talking about? You put up signs. Only, you can only say, significant other and partner in this office. Yeah, significantly a lot.

I actually really like significant other. But we were out drinking. We split from Rory and we were out drinking. And Rory went to dinner with Sean. Nice little nice dinner. They had lined up, shit. I walked up, Sean, like you want some. I'm like, you ain't asked me if I wanted some before you niggas ordered.

Like, damn. We know what was that? We treated ourselves. Went to Tiger. Okay. That's just spot. You like that spot. I mean, it's great spot.

Good spot. I like it. Why didn't Marling? What did he do? This was Friday? Yeah. No, this was Thursday. We left from recording.

Oh. You were here when some of the group came. Okay. Oh, that group. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Now, oh, that group is who I was at the strip club with. You sure you wanted me to call you?

I'm cool. And more. You got to think that group. I'm cool. That group without alcohol is a lot. Yeah, I'm totally cool. Now, add in some fucking mint hookah and some tequila. And it was that type of time.

Oh, yeah. No, thank you, DeMaris for not hit my phone. You're so welcome. I think DeMaris has a great deal. Like, DeMaris, like, she knows. knows like me to an extent like she knows this sort of shit that I'm just not yeah mall ain't fucking with this anything I've ever invited mall to was extremely calm I don't even invite ma'all to his own party when I threw y'all after party like he just came like out of respect I didn't

even invite him to his own after party oh at the ned yeah yeah that was that was cool though it was a nice vibe in there wasn't no nothing crazy demaris did the old promoter trick and threw your name like yo he's on the way now be here But yeah, that was... Oh, damn, his flight got canceled. I just saw him on stage in New York and we're in New York. That was crazy. But yeah, if you guys don't know the San Giro Fest,

which is kind of like an Italian-based festival and Little Italy. Italian-Based is hilarious. Italian-Based is hilarious. That's like partner in significant other. What is the marriage to do it today? It's an Italian-based festival. What? It's really nice.

They have all types of like, you know, they have like the orange, the fried orangeini. You can walk around. You mean like Italian culture? Yeah. Okay. Like in Little Italy? In Little Italy?

In New York. So the festival is going on. on. There's a Ferris wheel. Nobody gets on the Ferris wheel. Well, kids do. I did some real old man shit. Before we recorded today, I went over to the festival and at noon on a Monday. I got chicken parm, pasta, and meatballs. I'm exhausted.

You're an old. You're an old Italian, man. Who eats chicken parm at noon? Noon on a Monday. You know, what's wrong with you? Not even a Saturday. Yeah. Well, it's better for you because now your body has more time to digest it before you lay down.

So it's better for you to when you eat heavy food to walk around and digest it. Like there's this restaurant I want to go to. I think one Charles, it might be called super expensive, super hard to get a reservation. But if you go in there when they open at like 11, 30, 12 o'clock and get like steak, like you could get the table. But 1130 in the morning? I don't know. A steak. All right, man.

Steak and eggs. Nah, no eggs, though. It's like. 1130 at 1130 is crazy. But they say it's good. You got all day to walk it up. Yeah. Eat a steak and then laying right down crazy as fuck.

Yeah, that's like, if I see somebody eat a steak and just go hit the bed, I'm like, you're all right? Like, you want to talk about it? What's you going through, man? What's up with you? Like, we can just talk. You ain't got to kill yourself. You're trying to die your sleep of heartburn.

Like, what's up with you? Well, that's why I can never rock with like the IG baddies because you got to take them to those restaurants that serve like the big ass prime rib. And then you just watch her down a 14-ounce steak. It's like, I'm not. We're not having sex. You seen a girl finish a whole steak before? Mm-hmm.

I don't think I've ever seen that. Like a whole steak? Demaris, you finish a whole steak in one sort of house? It depends on how big the steak is. Okay. All right, that's true, I guess. Like a small little New York strip, I'll bust it down for show. Like, you know what I'm saying?

But, like, I'm not eating a porter house. You still be trying to be cute if you go on a date, like, and not, like, really eat, eat or? No, it's not that I try to be cute, but there's just certain things I don't eat on a date because I don't want to be, like, tooting and booting, like, laying next to a nigga. There's certain shit I just don't like. Like I love, I love Mexican food. I don't eat Mexican food on dates. Yo, me and Alex ate Mexican food and went to the club. We some disrespectful bitches.

Y'all was farting. Just crop dust in the section. Yeah, you farting. Take your farting ass in the house, man. Take your farting ass home, man. That's the only benefit of hookal lounges. At least it kills the smell. Oh, my God.

The food people eat at hookal lounges. I know they're sitting in that leather fucking chair. farting up a storm for sure. Tearing them lamb chops up. Mad mad butter over everything. Like, no, you farting. You're inhaling and eating dairy. How was a strip?

What strip club do you go? A dream. Okay. Oh, I thought I went to Starless. No, we went to Dream and then I deserted your group and they went to Starlets. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't got the energy.

Yeah, no. I got home at 3 a.m. Can you imagine had I went to a second strip club? What time I would have gotten home? That's well. Yeah, no. So. So how was Dream?

Dream was, it wasn't nobody in there. It was like, I mean, you know. And then, you know, she complained about a stripper. She's like, where the black girls at, baby? I can't. This is New York City. Everybody is race neutral. We're on this motherfucker.

Like, I can't help you. They got to have one black girl. That's it. Yeah. Well, I mean, no, Starlet does. Yeah. It's mainly Spanish chicks. But yeah, there's more black girls there, I think.

But, I don't know. Trip Club fashion week, just, no fucking way. I was doing that. But speaking of the festival, I know. You guys don't care, but something crazy happened in my worlds. I know you guys don't listen to like the mafia genre podcast world, but like Kendrick Drake happened for them at the festival on Saturday. So I'll give you the quickest, quickest backstory ever.

Joey Marlino, who is the alleged boss of the Philadelphia mob, now has a podcast. You heard correctly. Not somebody that radded. He could still very much be an active member. of the mafia for all we know. He has a podcast. A lot of it's on a Patreon wall, but there is stuff on YouTube. There's this other guy, Gene Borrello, who did rat, who started a podcast with another rat, then they split, but he has his own page now. He got into it with Joey

Merlino back and forth on some podcast beef. Joe Marlino has a cheese steak spot in Philadelphia. He opened for the festival. He had like a little booth. And he said, I will be there at four clock on Saturday. No, this was on Saturday. Okay. Said on his YouTube page, on his shorts, we will be right at the stand at 4 o'clock on Saturday for anybody that has had anything to say.

Gene Borrello has an ankle monitor. He's in Tampa. He can't leave. So he sent his friend, who he sometimes does lives with Hooty on a dummy mission. Hootie also allegedly was an informant. So Hootie said, I've lived in New York all my life. I go to Mulberry Street whenever the fuck I want to go. He went by himself while on live.

Him and Gene were on YouTube live. He got off the train. He's walking, walking. All of 10 seconds, you hear a voice and then boom, the phone goes down. And you just hear a whole fucking mess of feet and hands. And then the screen goes black. Meanwhile, Gene just sitting there in Tampa like, they fighting? Are they fighting? Are they fighting?

I know you guys are not part of that world. No, I'm interested. I listened to all that shit. That was the, I was glued. It was the first time my life I ever hit a notification, notify me when they go on live. I stopped what I was doing. I thought it was fake.

I was like, no, there's no way this went exactly how we all thought it was going to go. It almost looked like a skit. But why would even show up there? Why would he even go? He doesn't even have beef with Joey Merlino. Gene does. Yeah, but Joey couldn't get to Gene. No.

This was like pre-destioned. Like, for a month, all Hootie and Gene were talking about was like, oh, we could go to the festival if we want to. And then Joey was like, well, I'm here. And you guys have been talking shit about me for fucking a year. Damn, they were shaking at the fest. We don't be having them type of troubles at the fest. That's ghetto. We don't have them, probably.

What? Did you not see what a gwop dad did a couple years ago between M&R? That was in R Us, right? At San Giro Fest. We don't have them type of problems. Like, it's very peaceful, kid-friendly. Yeah. It was an old dude playing the harmonica and people were dancing to it.

You know what I'm saying? Well, these are some of the guys. These are. But even with that, like, even when it was super active because it's not so much anymore, no violence would happen at the festival. Like, they all made sure that that wouldn't happen. Like, that was a rule. This shit is peaceful.

Like, we make money off this. Don't come and fuck up the money. So the fact that he went by himself. And this is, so I watched. Gene's like whole breakdown after he got the story. I guess who he held his own against getting jump. Listen, man, I've been jump before. Like, there's no, there's no shame. I just think you're dumb. Like, why would you go by yourself to a place where you know everyone wants to beat you up? Yeah. But I mean, I guess I respect it. It takes balls to do that. I just think

it's dumb balls. Sometimes having balls means you're just stupid. Yeah. But I guess he held his own. And Gene's excuse of why it was whack was because the first, the first, you know, the first, you're just stupid. And first guy that hit hooty was a black guy not an Italian guy. He was like, you sending black guys to go do your, like, you couldn't do it. No, what if he was a black Italian? That is true. I'm just like, it's funny after people lose fights, like the excuses they try to find. He was a mool.

It was a moly. Does that take the punch away? Because I don't think it does. But, I mean, listen, uh, Chegen and Hootie are very entertaining on YouTube. Like, I'm not here to shit on them. That's their world and their business when it comes to who rad it. I'm just, I'm a patron. I just watch.

I just think this shit is funny. But I'm telling you this was, this was like our 9-11 in the mafia YouTube genre. Well, I saw another fight this weekend. It was in Las Vegas. It was in Vegas. The Canelo Crawford, the Canelo Crawford fight was this weekend, was Saturday in Vegas. And I think it kind of lived up to the expectations. I mean, I have to come here and apologize to Terrence Crawford.

I apologize. I take back anything that I said. What did you say, though? You had Canella winning. Of course, I know Crawford's a legend, but I had Conella win, but I did think Conella was going to win. And I was like, Cannello was going to beat his ass. I just thought Connell went. We said would probably go to distance, but this was a clear, unanimous fight.

This was a clinic by Terrence Crowford. I think that he made a statement Saturday. I think that Terrence Crawford might be one of the greatest fighters ever at this point. I'm willing to say I think that Terrence Crawford might be a better fighter than Floyd, not a better boxing than Floyd. Okay. But he's a better fighter. I see what you're saying. I think Terrence Crawford is a much better fighter than Floyd Mayweather.

Yeah. Boxing-wise, I don't think there's a single fighter. better than Floyd at boxing. Boxing, like technicality mechanics. But yeah, Crawford would probably be a better fighter. I think Terrence Crawford, that, I did not expect him to perform the way. That was almost too easy of a fight for Terrence Crawford. He didn't look like he was hurt at all.

He didn't look like he was in trouble at any point of the fight. They both landed some nice shots. But I love what Conello said after because it was what I was thinking, watching the fight. I might even said it when we was watching it. I was like, Conello don't even look like he can figure Crawford out. Like, he don't even know, you know, like, where the shots are coming from. And he said it after the fight. He was like, yeah, I really could not figure him out.

But it looked that way when I'm watching it. And I've never seen Conello look so, you know, like he didn't. Like, he was trying to figure it out going into the eighth, ninth round. He was still trying to figure Terrence Crawford out. I saw somebody say that on one of the judges scorecards going into the 11th round. it was, they had it even. And that Crawford needed the 11th and 12th round to, to win the fight. I didn't think it was even, but that's, but see, that's Vegas.

I think, I think Canelo maybe got one round. Maybe, maybe two. But even the rounds that he won, he looked more gas than Crawford did. Yeah. Like the entire time, I was still thinking, it's Canello, and we were making fun of Max Kellerman before, like, all it takes is one shot from Canello, and the whole fight can change. All it takes is one shot from anybody. I know, but Connello.

specifically like we've seen that happen before yeah where just one shot from him has completely changed the entire fight every round i was like it may come but crawford he looked like he was like he was in better shape as the rounds went yeah like he was not gas whatsoever and to your point of him maybe being the best fighter in the 11th round when canelo you know had to start going for a little knockout shit because i mean in my opinion it looked like it was completely over scorecard wise Crawford was brawling with him in the 11th round when I didn't think he needed to. Yeah.

Like he fought him. Yeah, no, it was definitely a fight that, you know, there wasn't no running. Like, they definitely fought. But Canelo, I mean, I don't, anybody that knows the sport of boxing and watch that fight, Canello looked like a Canello we've never seen before. I've never seen Canello look that off his game, didn't know what he wanted to do, couldn't really catch him. And that's, you know, that's a salute to Terrence Crawford.

and just his preparation. But he's been talking, you know, it's good to see him win the fight because he has been talking like this for a while. Like he knew for years that he could beat Canello. Like he said it. He never ran away from him. He never shot away from it. He was very adamant and, you know, that he could beat Canello if he fought him.

And he showed up Saturday night and did exactly that. It was a great fight. But the undercard fight and Billy Martinez fight, but I don't, we need to check, make sure those two gentlemen are okay because they was fighting like, they were. were, it was no ring. Like, they just met each other behind 7-Eleven and got it on. Like, there was no defense. There was no head movement, no, like, blocking punches.

They were just throwing punches, haymakers, and, like, was taking each other's best shot, and nobody got knocked down. We were joking in between the rounds. Not one person in their corner said to either of them, hey, maybe put your hands up. Yeah. Like, now the train was like, you know, like that boxing one-on-one thing? Bro, but to get hit with those type of shots and nobody fell, like nobody touched the game. I just wanted somebody to suggest like, all right, I like what you're doing, champ.

Maybe block one punch. That was a great undercard. Like that fight, the amount of hitting and shots that was landing in that fight, that was the perfect undercut. Because I'm not going to lie, man, these West Coast fights, man. Like the older you get, it's tough to stay up for the main event, man. Like everybody, we had, we started, we made like espresso and like, damn their midnight. Like we was just trying to stay up.

Like everybody was like fading falling asleep. And I'm like, damn, it's like another fight. Is it one more undercard? Like that's when Vargas and your local, your lad. Yeah, why am I blanking? Callum. Yeah, okay. Callum.

That was that fight before. I was like, bro, it's another undercard. And Billy Martinez, that was the, they could have got straight into Canella Crawford after that one. Well, where Netflix also fucked us up is when they put the image out, Vargas was supposed to be the last undercard. That's why even I was texting people to come. He was the last undercard. No.

Yeah, it was. Oh, it was out of the order that we saw. That's why we thought there was not another undercard. No, it came out. Vargas was the last undercard, I believe. I believe. Like I said, we was dozing off and trying to stay up and, you know. You said you were texting people to what?

Come upset. Like, we were watching the fight in a different room of the studio. Oh, you were in the studio? Yeah. Oh. So everyone's working. working. I was texting them like, oh, it's about to come on now. There was another undercard. I was like, oh, wait, never mind. Go back. Yeah, man. Those West Coast fights. Jesus.

But even like with the pay-per-view days or like, even HBO, yeah, the Mayweather would come out at 11.30 at night. But this was like 1.30? This was after midnight. This was like close to like 1230, 1245. Yeah, that's, I don't know Netflix. That's, I can't do that. What did you think of Netflix overall with this? I thought it was great. I thought they did an amazing job. I thought but everything was dope. I liked the way they had, Jason State, uh, Statham sitting ringside,

like they was filming a fucking movie. He was sitting next to the Saudi prince that threw the, like put the fight on. I was like, they're definitely shooting the movie right now. Um, I didn't know they had, uh,

screens. If you're ringside, I didn't know there were screens down below that you can watch. The whole time I'm looking at the Saudi guy and everyone else's head is going with the fight. He just like this. I'm like, you know,

this guy's so rich. The fight he threw, he doesn't even want to watch. He went ringside not to watch. And they told me, nah, there's a screen down there. I was like, but why would you be ringside? It's right there. Yeah, man, you know, you get the different angles.

That was the one, my only critique with Netflix. I feel like whoever was the producer doing all the switches, they didn't hire someone that knows boxing. I felt like a lot of shots were missed because they didn't get the camera angle. Like, there was a lot of shots I saw in the replay after, but because the camera angle was bad, they weren't going with the fight.

I like when you say stuff like that. Why? No boxing. Because then we're going to come to find out that the person that was like producing it was like, produced the Ali Frazier fight. Oh, well then. Yeah. Then he did.

It's going to be the person that knows everything about boxing. Then he did a bad job with him. He knows nothing about boxing. Even when to switch in any sports, with football, whatever. Like, that's a big part. Yeah, but you can't. You're going to miss some of the shots. Like, you can't guess when he's going to hit him with a left hook, like to get the camera on the right side.

They were always on their back. I was like, can you flip the camera like a regular boxing match would be? Oh, I think they did a good job. But I mean, this was definitely the most watched. I think the most watched, a fight ever because obviously it was on Netflix. Yeah. But shout out to Crawford and Canello. I don't know if it'll be, I know we said it would be a rematch.

I don't know if there will be. I don't, I don't think Crawford needs to take that. Like this was just a clear, a clear win. I mean, but if they come back with, because he may, he took home, I think, 50, a little over 50 million from this fight. Didn't Canelo take 150? Yeah. Yeah.

So now if they come back to Crawford, like, hey, we got 200 for you. Yeah. For the rematch. It's hard to take note of that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Not mad at that. Yeah.

But Netflix, they went full blown with the celebrity shots. Like, even when I was watching the undercards, they were trying to find anybody famous. It was like the third lead in MASH and they would show it. I'm like, yo, who are these people they keep showing? Like you know you can just like either just cut to the ring or just do commentary You don't always have to go through the stands and just find every celebrity You know, they just want to let you know who's in the building man, you know

The one person that wasn't there that was probably the most notable name is Floyd I didn't see Floyd at the fight Yeah, that's a good point Yeah, unless he was there and they I mean I don't see the cameras missing floyd Yeah You can't miss Floyd Mayweather at a Vegas fight but yeah I didn't know why Floyd wasn't In attendance for a fight that was you know as big as this one but Either way, it was a good fight, entertaining.

Shout out to Crawford. Undoubtedly, the king of boxing right now. And it was good to see him, you know, get the victory and take it back home to Nebraska. Yeah, I was happy. Tyson looked happy all cuddled up. Is that his wife, his girl? That was... I've never, like, seen the couple reveal with Mike Tyson before.

He looked happy, happy. Like, that wasn't just some joint he met. It was a friend, you know. He was... Might be his wife. He may be married. I don't know. But, yeah, it was...

It was good to see Tyson not next to... When is the Tyson of Floyd fight? That's next year, right? February, right? So Jake Paul and Tank Davis is the next fight, November 14th? Yep. I mean, I have no backbone. I want to boycott this, but I'm a thousand percent going to watch.

You have to watch this, though. You have to. You got to watch this fight. I don't know where I land on it. I mean, obviously Tank is the favorite, but, I mean, I don't know, man. I don't want to say that, though. What happens? What happens if he loses?

I'm not, he ain't going to go to. We have to have a different Jake Paul conversation. We keep having to have new Jake Paul conversations because he keeps beating people. No, he's not, he not, he not, he not being tank. We say that every time. He not being tank. I mean, like I was on, when they first announced this fight, I was kind of like, you know, Jake Paul's obviously the bigger guy. He can, you know, he hit, I guess he could say he hits hard.

I don't know if we can say that. he can hit tank hard. I don't know if Tank is going to be affected by how hard he hits. But, yeah, no, he's not, Tank is not losing that fight. This is why this is a simulation. This all started with Nate Robinson. Yeah.

It did. Started with Nate Robinson. And then it got to Floyd and Mike Tyson and now Tank and his prime. What the fuck is going on? Yeah, man. I mean, it's boxing. It's entertainment, man. Let's make it entertaining.

I guess we can stay in the boxing. realm, but more on the battle rap side. Did you watch Murder Mook and Hitman Hala over the weekend? I did, man. I did. Shout out to Mook. Sharmie Mook is, you know, it's one of the goats, man. Well, shout out to the takeover battle league, because this happened, I think, it happened

Saturday in Houston, right? Yeah, yes. Or Friday. Yes, Saturday. And it was out by Sunday night. If Smack had this battle, we would get it in spring 2026. Yes, we would get it right before the Tyson made weather fight. Like I used to hate when they would announce shit.

I was like, well, I can't go to the battle, so let me not even get excited because I don't have to wait six months to see all this shit. I don't even think summer mad the last summer madness has come out yet. And we're going into fall. Like summer madness, that shit would happen in August. We'd get that shit in December. So shout out to that league for keeping up with the times where we want shit the moment we see it. So I like that they turned it around. I like Hitman Holla.

Don't get me wrong. Like as far as one of the A-listers, as far as battling goes in the battle-wrap history, he's the most basic A-lister to me. Basic. I'm not saying, I'm not in any way saying hitman is trash. But out of all of his peers, the people that you would compare him to, he's the most basic primer. And I think that showed in this mook battle.

Like, it showed, showed his ass when he was rapping next to MOOC. Well, I don't know. I mean, is that a, that's not a really. a knock on, because you're with battle rap. It's, you know, from obviously somebody like Mook, Mook has been battle rapping since before

it was like, nothing. He was like literally walking to different neighborhoods, different blocks, battling whoever. Like he come out, Mook comes from that. Before it was so performative as it is now, like now, now battle rap is a little more performative. It's a little more like, you know,

spoken word kind of like it's a performance. But I feel like, serious Jones and Moog were actually kind of the ones that started that to where we even get Hitman. I just think they all did it with real intricate schemes that sounded basic. You could still perform it, but they're rapping, rapping. Hitman says cool shit, but it's like straight basic, which is fine because he's clearly won a bunch of battles and I think he's great. But I think that's why he was probably so successful on whiling out why it's so funny. It's just basic right in your face.

Here you go. A car, car bar, dar. Like, just there you go. Yeah, but I think that, you know, there's no real schemes like that. Yeah, but Mook is, he's just different. I think when you, when you're somebody that, again, you're just from a different era in this battle rap thing, I think that it's hard to beat guys like that because, you know, the element is not as, you know, it's just not as tough as it once was. Like when you used to battle rap and go on somebody's block and stand in a circle on a sidewalk and,

like to come from that and then now we're on stage and it's just like it's like that's easy for moot like that's not that's not a tough environment for him like that's a a more curated safe you know like environment for him to go in there and do what he does like hitman i mean i think he comes from that as well he was obviously after mook but you know hitman has had his years of performing well in the battle right but i think i just think it's different it's just different levels when it comes to guys like Mook and and Lux and those guys. It's just a different, you know, like you're going to look different standing across from those guys because they just cut different

when it comes to battle wrap. And yeah, again, I wasn't saying, as you said, not like a slight to him because I think he's great. He should be talked about with the peers that he's talked about. He's proven that. He has a resume for that, but it just, I don't know, this one, I thought it was 3-0. And with the information-

It was-0. With the information that Hitman had in the third round, especially somebody like Mook who's been in this for so long, you've heard every skeleton that he has in his closet. With the information, I feel like Hitman made it so basic and didn't deliver it well that it didn't even matter, which is crazy. And on top of that,

I do applaud him for thinking the battle rap world cares about domestic violence. Like, I don't think this is the arena where this is going to hit the way you think is going to hit. Like, no, that's crazy. And granted, if any of that is true down to the, we'll say grape so we don't get demonetized, the grape in college that got him kicked out, beating up his wife, beating up his daughter. Yeah, that's fucking nuts, if any of that is true. I just will care about it on the Twitter timeline.

The battle rap, you think that side? Yeah. That didn't even move anyone in the crowd on stage. No. This ain't the place. Yeah, they didn't care about that. I mean, I salute, hit man, putting that whole thing together and, you know,

for sure. That whole scheme and everything like that, you know, that takes skill. But it just didn't land the way I thought hitman thought it would land. And what's so far? And salute to the battle rap community. I'm not saying all you guys don't care about domestic violence. But if you go look at Mass last round against Hollow

When he was talking about how Hollow Schemed his man's out of the T-shirt company and all that That whole crowd was like, you're fucked up, you foul, all this shit They care about scheming your man out of money. Not beating up women. No. You have to think about what... Yeah, it just didn't land.

What this arena is. But I think Moog, he definitely outperformed them all three rounds, though. I think it was three-old. Moog went crazy. Yeah, Moog went fucking outperforming. I don't know if it's just. anybody left for MOOC to battle at this point? Like, who else is, like, guys like Mook and Lux?

It's like, who do they battle? Got to wait for the younger guys to get better and have a longer resume so they can even get in that room. But yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, it's like, it's nobody. It's, you know. I'm just Mook and daylight. I don't know.

Yeah, nah. I'm cool. But either way, shout out to, what is it, takeover? Shout out to that platform. and they definitely turned that, turned that event around in less than a day. So that was dope to get that, get that battle last night to watch that. Shout out the Mugga hit, man. Oh, they both put on a great, you know, showing of skill and wordplay and things like that.

But Mugas is different, man. Mook is, he's a goat. He's top five when it comes to battle rap. I think that's solidified now. I know guys like to argue that and, you know, say that he's not. I don't know why they would even think that. but maybe my New York bias, but MOOC is definitely one of the goats when it comes to battle right. No, for sure.

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Man, I missed my dog. So, with Thursday, when we was in the studio, Pige played the record. And I thought it was a joke. I thought it was AI, you know. A seven-minute AI record is great. I mean, I just thought it was. That's a lot of data.

I just, like I don't know man I don't know if we needed this you made it through the whole record yeah oh I applaud you you have you have you have ninja patience like that's crazy that you made it through this record this was just not good

like the music wasn't good the rapping wasn't good I mean I understand the sentiment like you know it's like you apologize to people that you know are hearing things that you're saying about them, affected some relationships and things like that.

I get it. I understand that's intimate. I don't know if we needed a seven-minute record saying that. Like, just call these dudes individually, send a text. Yeah. Something like, you know, we didn't need this record. Yeah, man. Apology is changed behavior, and you should change the song.

This is, this was bad. Yeah, this is wasn't. I read the cliff notes, though. I see he apologized to Mariah, to Drake, to who else? I just don't really care. I think Thug probably thinks people care more than they really do because the internet just wants to make jokes. Nobody really cares about. Nobody cares about.

I keep telling you, they just showed us the UFO flying straight through a missile. We're talking about a young thug apology record. Like, nobody cares about this. There are crazier things going on that people are just ignoring. At this point, it's like, what the fuck is happening? I just think it's kind of crazy that this is what it took for Thug to start putting out music. Because he's been quiet until, oh, this shit leaked. Now he's putting out seven-minute records.

And I felt like he just put out an apology record last week, too, that we thought was AI. And then a video came out for it. So, yeah, this is one of those that I think we should just all move fast. But what does this mean for Thug, like, moving forward? Like, what does this thug sound like? What does his music sound like? obviously relationships are you know strained at this point he probably doesn't have the relationships that he once had as far as in the industry and other artists and things like that

what does this mean for thug like what is this what is this how does this affect him um i think it's it's very much a post 444 in lemonade i think we will get the thug in maria the scientists everything is love part two like i think they'll do a joint album to like show solidarity. Baby D? I, I, it might be over, bro. I don't. You think it's over for Thug? I, I, okay, let's clarify.

I'm not saying that I think that it's over for Thug. I think it, there's a possibility that Thug will never be as big as he was. And I think that in an era where, and where people's, it's hard to come back and put out an album, like, anyway, like Gunna is the exception, not the rule. once you've been, you know, gone for a while or like once you kind of turn people off, it's hard, it's hard to come back into, to get the baby invested.

So what Baby Dee is saying, it's hard to come back just if you just did a bid. Oh, come home. Like that's, because now it's like, you know, so much has changed sound, you know, slang and things like that. We move forward faster. Yeah, cadences.

Like a lot of things have changed in music. So you're playing catch up naturally when you go away, you've got to do a bid. but to now have relationships that you probably once leaned on that are not there anymore the relationships you probably had that you leaned on creatively you know while you're in the studio like a lot of those things are no longer available to you because you can't even be around certain people anymore you can't even hang out with certain people anymore so a lot has changed for thug just you know as far as life goes so now when you talk about creative

creating and writing and, you know, catching the vibe and the energy. And, you know, a lot of that is things that people don't talk about that goes into making great music. You got to catch that right energy, that moment, that pulse. It's a lot that goes, you know, that you don't really think about that just kind of happens when you're in that, in that world that I don't think thug probably has at this moment anymore. So, you know, I His sound is definitely going to change. What he talks about is going to change. Clearly.

So it's like does his audience, do they follow that change? Do they follow that sound? Do they follow that new thug? Do they follow? Or does he have to, is this something where he has to literally just start from scratch and rebuild, rebrand, you know, kind of like pivot his sound a little bit? Like I think Thug is, it's a lot of questions that he's probably having with his camp in his circle right now.

Everyone's going to follow if it's good. Like, if it's good. If Gunna came out and the music he put out right away was ass, the overall energy would be like, yo, Gunna's a rat. Fuck him. We don't support rats. But it was good. So everyone followed suit and Gunna is probably bigger than he was before.

Doug just has to focus on making good music. Like, that's it. People don't care. They will only go if the music is good. Now, if the music sucks, people are just going to continue to say, like, you know, you were the complete opposite of what you were perceived as. We thought you were this guy. You're not that guy. And all of those rumors and shit will just keep following him.

People forget when the music is good. Everything is fine after that. Yeah, you make good music. And, you know, that's like the fix all. But everything is... It's not the fix all, though. If you make good music? There's plenty of people that make good music that people don't, like, if you have a certain sound and your sound.

becomes dated while you're away or you become unlikable to the public, it is good music is not enough these days. There's plenty of people who make good music. There's plenty of people who make good music and y'all don't hear of them. Wait. Who? Who? I'm talking about that had like the spot.

I had the moment, but like it was a big name, big artist. And then, you know, went away for whatever reason. And it came back and made good music and nobody is paying them attention. Like, who? I would have to, I would have to secure it. I can't think about that at the top of my head. But that's like good. I just don't feel like good music is enough.

Well, let's use Gunna as an example. Let's not rewrite history when that tape leaked of him saying, yes, ma'am. Everyone hated Gunna. That was the consensus on the timeline. His old friends were tweeting shit. Everyone in the industry was unfollowing him. Let's not act like everyone loved Gunna the way they do now. Everyone loves Gunna because the music was good.

He changed the narrative right away just because the music was great. No, he changed everything. This niggas and shit. state, he's doing 5K runs through Central Park. Like, he's doing all kind of different shit. But I feel like a lot of that. He was actually reformed by the state of Georgia. Oh, yeah.

He got a peek behind that wall. And it was like, nigga, I'm never going to jail. But it wasn't. The first one ever corrected by this correction system. He's doing juice cleansers. And all of the things that you're naming also contributed. It wasn't just that the music was good. He had a hit and the music was good.

But Gunna, the way that Gunna was marketed, the two shows that he did, the fact that his looks changed and he changed up his style, he got more into fashion, he lost weight, he did all of those things. He was always in the fashion. Yeah, but all of those things like, it wasn't just the music was good. All those things definitely help, but they won't matter unless the music is good. If Gunna said, yes, ma'am, put out shitty music and then got in shape, nope, like the best he would be, would be a fitness influencer.

Of course. The music needs to be good. Okay, yes. So, y'all miss what I'm saying. I'm not saying that if the music, like, it doesn't matter if the music is good. What I'm saying is, the music has to be good. But just because the music is good doesn't mean that that will be enough. That doesn't automatically mean that that will be good.

That fixes a lot, though. Sometimes. When you put out a bang, good start. When you drop a joint. Who decides what a bang is? And that's my thing, right? Like, who decides what a bang? There are some songs I'm sure that you guys have heard that in your head,

it's a banger. But if the public doesn't perceive it that way, if it's not marketed the correct way, if the kids don't, if the kids don't catch onto it or know that it exists, it doesn't matter that the music is good because the right people aren't hearing it and uplifting it and the time wasn't right. So that's why I said it doesn't, sometimes it doesn't matter if the music is good. Sure. And I hear you on that. But also Gunna capitalized on the moment, no matter what, because the music was good, all of us had our eyes on Gunna because we wanted to see what he was going to say. Everyone clicked that when he dropped that project immediately because we wanted, it was the moment. What's gunna about to say? And we listened. It was like, oh, this is good.

So we stayed with it. He capitalized on all of the eyes being on him. So at that point, all you have to do is deliver music because you know, no matter what, everyone wants to hear what you have to say. Now Thug is in the same position, but unfortunately, the moment that happened was a bunch of leaked jail calls instead of music. All of our ears and eyes went to that. Now, he still is going to have that moment. I don't think he should waste it on. seven minute apologies. I think he should focus on records that we're actually going to fucking replay. Because all the eyes are on thug.

We want to know what he's going to do. And I feel like he's wasting those moments on bullshit. Yeah. I feel like that moment has passed. Which one? The moment where he should have put out a banger. I feel like it's passed. I agree.

How? He just, he didn't really put out shit. He didn't put nothing out except for this joint. And then obviously the Jeffrey files that they put out. But what I'm saying is it's not about what he has put out. I'm saying the moment, like, you've let other things eclipse the moment of you getting out of jail already. Like that's, you've let other things eclipse the moment.

Yeah, but they'll still have moments. People still want to hear his music, though. Like if he announces he's putting out an album next month, people are going to listen to it. Oh, no, for sure. You know what I'm saying? But he only has what he does. Because of. But his window.

You only got one shot. He's not missed a chance to blow. I'm saying also. You see Top Gun, too? Phenomenal. You see when they had to drive. them that mission that precision Doug has to have that type he got one shot he has to hit mock 10 man he got one shot he got and he got it got to be a hit it got to be a hit if not I don't know if people go

back to it I'm gonna be honest I don't know if they go back to you know he might have to find another artist and just kind of like curate another you know upcoming artist and and go that route but you know is it just being honest like I think he he turned turned a lot of people off with a lot of these phone calls that are being put out. Again, I think a lot of, you know, favors that he may have thought he was going to have coming home. And I think a lot of people are going to kind of turn the shoulder on them now. Yeah. Because like I said, we didn't finish in the tapes.

Oh, definitely. There was more phone calls coming. Yeah. If it went from artists couldn't wait to have the opportunity to work with Thug again to, I don't know if I should. Yeah. And to the merits of point, too, with the likability thing, with this. one shot. Yes, he has a window. People are going to pay attention. But if it's just average because he's become so unlikable, then you don't get a second chance after that. A likable

person sometimes gets a second chance. Yeah. An unlikable person, people are going to go in to listen, but if it is not undeniable, they're still going to be bias in your head of I don't like this person. I know what could, I know what might help. I think I got it. Okay. Thug got to do the Iowa. Oh, you mean like for the music or help like his life? Just life. I think that's going to unlock a whole other thing for him. Yeah. I think if Thug do the ayahuasca, he's going to be all right.

I wouldn't know. I would love to like be able to watch and see what is in Thug's head during an ayahuasca. I would love to just be able to be on that journey with him. Just watch just watch it like, I'm just a passenger. I'm just a passenger on the trip. Like I got to see. Thug do the ayahuasca.

He's going to drive. a classic. You know what he should do? He should do the ayahuasca and live stream it. Like the live stream marathons. He should do the week of ayahuasca and the live stream should never leave it. He should go to Costa Rica, go to Costa Rica, go to a nice like village. You know what I mean? Get your own villa type of thing. Get the shaman, have the shaman come in. Yeah. She live stream the whole ayahuasca experience and then watch the music. Watch what, watch what happens to the music after that. And Kai, this is copy. be written. So don't go rent a house and get Druski in every celebrity in the world and all

you guys do ayahuasca in the basement. No, they could do it. We just got to be there. 30 days of ayahuasca with all our favorite celebrities in Kai's house. You heard it here first. Yeah. Do the Iowa. Thug, do the Iowa. It's two artists I want to see do the ayahuasca.

Doug and Kodak. Yeah. Yeah. I totally forgot to tell you. He spoke to Kodak? I'm driving home. I'm driving down the street. a block away from my house.

And I see Kodak Black. Oh, my God. Why? I totally meant to text. You know, I forgot. I was like, yo, I'm driving on the most random back block. That makes sense. And then I later saw he was with, shout to Al Biel.

Al Bial took him to his hood in Jersey City. Oh, fine. Okay. But I must have caught them when they were like walking out because I'm like, why is Codak Black walking on my block right now? Yeah. That's fire. I double took I was like, that wasn't Kodak.

No, that's Kodak. That's Kodak. Those are two rappers I want to see take the Iwaska. Young Thug and Kodak. I think that would be like... I feel like Kodak would come out with a British accent.

Like, I feel like he'd be a whole different... Man, that album he put out, that first song straight off the Iowaska that Kodak put out. I'm telling you. I would love to see it. Was that... Was that Glorillard thing AI,

or was it a real disc? Because I saw over the weekend after I couldn't get through the Young Thug 7-minute record. Some type of leak happened with Glorilla, right? But it sounded like AI to me. So AI or not, have you guys heard the diss? Yeah, I heard it. And again, I heard a snippet at first, and I thought it was AI.

And then the full record came out, and everyone was saying it wasn't AI. This might be the first time I wish somebody tweeted instead of rapped. Like, if she just would have tweeted all of these, like all day, that would have been kind of funny. Yeah. But I mean, I don't know. If it leaked, maybe she was just trying some shit in the studio and thought it was funny. But again, it's not like the biggest deal. It's a leit's called Doug saying she's unattractive.

Like, I don't think it warrants like this is war. Yeah, I don't think it was that. Yeah, just make a funny little record. It's whatever. It's just a funny record. She just went in there and just, you know, wanted to just take some shots at Doug and, you know, get her guess, get her lick back. just talking shit, but it ain't, you know, it's not like, this ain't kissing beans. Mariah caught some, some strays in there as well, which.

Which ones were her? The ones at the bottom, Josh, pull up those lyrics again. The ones at the bottom, she says something like Burning Blue, your niggas stay cheating burning you. It's all the way at the bottom, Josh. I just never thought I would hear a Juana Man reference in a disc record. Burn and Blue, cheating ass nigga burning you looking ass bitch. Like Velma off Scooby-Doo looking ass bitch, anchor on the news looking ass bitch.

You don't think she cute looking ass bitch. only if you knew looking ass bitch. Beauty and the freak. Brain size of a P. Don't care if he cheat long as he come to me, come home to me like that, bitch. Yeah. I will say, though.

She did cut him up. She said Mariah looked like Velma or Scooby-Doo. I wouldn't even think Glorilla knew who Velma or Scooby-Doo was. I didn't think she'd know what Juana Man is. Glorilla, she's young. Scooby-Doo was a cartoon before I was born. She's young.

She ain't that young. Glorilla? She's 26. That's not that young. A 26-year-old knowing about Scooby-Doo? Scooby-Doo was old when I was. And not only nobody, but to reference, like, one of the characters, how they look. Like, I would not think that Glowrilla would know who Velda off Scooby-Doo was.

Yeah, like, Scooby-Doo is like the kids know who Scooby-Doo is. Even when you said Juana Man, I'm like, the kids know who that is. Because that shit they were watching when they were really, really, really young. I thought I was really young when Juwana Man came out. All I know is genie that's trapped in a vase is fucking hilarious. How you? That's what she said about Mariah? I don't know who she's talking about.

She said she said that about the. That he looks like a genie trapped in a vase. That's kind of funny. That's fucking hilarious. Giving little kids a frightening look. Yeah. No, there was some very funny lines in this thing. I think everybody's just bored.

Yeah. I think she was probably in the studio. of really just shooting the shit and having fun. Like, I don't think... Yeah. They probably was cutting his ass in the studio and someone's like, let's record this. Yeah.

I'm sure that's how it went, but... Yeah, I'm glad it didn't make it to DSPs, but I'm not mad at what Gloverly did. Because it's not that serious of a thing, so it's just a funny... There's something to just put out there. So now how I'm a riot, ain't not cool?

Like, it's over? I would assume so. I don't have insight on that, but I would assume so. Okay, well. You get a lot of phone with your nigga, and he calling me ugly. Yeah, bitch, don't speak to me.

me as me. I feel that. Yeah. As me personally. Oh, I thought y'all were talking about Thug and Mariah. It's definitely, Glorilla and Mariah are not going to fuck with each other after that. Well, Doug, Thug bought, I mean, Mariah bought Thug on, um, on stage for one of her performances recently, so. That was all bad.

I saw that clip. That was bad. Yeah. Yeah, that was bad. Did you put? That nigga said, he went to sing like one lyric of the song. Bro, TikTok comments. I know y'all don't be on TikTok.

TikTok comments are the funniest comment section in the world. I think because the majority of it be like younger kids and like women, bro, the shit they be saying is fucking hilarious. TikTok comments are the funniest fucking TikTok, like the funniest comment section in the world. Like y'all got to go. The TikTok comments on that thing where he was up on stage with her, they was tearing his ass up. That's what I'm saying? Like once you don't piss the women off, like, is Jay-Z still be catching straights for lemonade? The girl still be on his ass.

It's like, I just, I don't know. I feel like she should have just waited. Yeah. Like, I don't know if now is the time to. Nope. Bring thug out. Holding my man down. I mean, shit.

It's us over them. They still together? Every time I, she bought him on stage. He just wrote on stage. I would assume so. But then he said, like, then he tweets something about chapter clothes. This was after, though. This was after.

I think that was after he did his apologies and was like, this chapter of all this shit is done. That's how I took it. I didn't take it as. That makes sense. Like, hey, let's stop talking like,

it's done now. I apologize to everyone. This conversation is over. But that's why when y'all beefing, you can't let the public know y'all beefing because you're going to spin that block. Yeah. Like,

you just got to, shh, keep it low. Yeah, but you spend the block until you, you know what I mean, until you don't spend a block. Like,

you've ever had that one person, you're like, yo, they're going to spin, spin, and then the spins, and then never come back. You look up,

it's been like two years. I'm like, oh, It's hard-breaking The spin is over Oh god Did she perform her Her AI disc

I'm not even I'm not even entertaining it I'm not even I'm not even All I did was say clocking She'd be pissing me off With a big smile Nobody clock and shit That clock broke

We don't even know Just shut the fuck up It's not right twice a day Yeah like yo just whatever man Anywho Did she perform her AI just No I would assume not There's an AI this for Mariah?

Yeah, we're the timeline. You know it's so crazy. I love Mariah music so much I might like the AI this. Like that's shit hard. Josh, you play it. Because I think we can play it because it's AI. We won't get flagged. So I said they knew that was Mariah.

Listen to the beat. They was like, the AI sing better than Mariah. That's fucked up. How could I be so naive to let this nigga play with me? You think you got one up on me. Did you claim to be fuck, nigga free? But Ted or how you fuck the whole industry. Mm.

And your pussy ain't nothing but basic Just like all your chains You better check about me Bitch I'm gonna play And wait Didn't you say You're glad he was your king bitch please

This shit This whoever wrote this Who wrote this? Y'all Y'all don't listen to Mariah at all That's AI No one was asking was AI People usually write the songs

and then have the AI sing it. Like, people usually write shit and then have AI sing it. But, I mean, some of the bars went over my head. Did she, in fact, say that young thug has a pussy. And then it said his pussy's also whack. She was dissing Glorilla.

Oh, okay. I thought that was the thug too. No, that's not like that. Because she started out talking about thug, though. She started out talking about thug. I thought it was a thug guest. You know, Warren would be so clueless sometimes. Oh, I thought that was a little. about how did you think she was he wears a dress i thought like no man that was like some real

some real bars right there she wasn't she wasn't giving us like on time well she weaved that because started out dis and thug i didn't know we were going right to glorilla without any change of subject all of that shit is looped in y'all all you're both getting it i'm shooting the both of you know but that's so whack though because like if i just feel like they you know rap is got they could use that as a crutch now oh for sure if it's whack and i'm like oh this shit tries man that's a i ain't me No. Like they go, you can fall on the AI excuse.

Like, that's like the LOL. The AI is the new LOL. But I feel like people can, people in tech can probably go in and find out if it's, but they need to like make for like regular pedestrians like us. There needs to be AI program that can tell us if this is AI. The way they check the diamonds with that little thing. We need that for like the average person should be able to take a file that they

have on Twitter. You tell us that. Same way y'all keep telling me to turn my headphones down. When I just, I just, I'm listening to one. on like, yo, based on your last seven days, you should turn your volume down. This shit knocking, shut up, nigga, turn it. Actually, I want the iPod.

Yeah, I want the iPod to be louder. Like, I hate, the iPods not even loud enough to me no more. Airpods, baby. The AirPods, I'm sorry, I said iPods, AirPond. You definitely get old. The AirPods ain't, they're not loud enough for me no more. Doesn't the new, like, Apple Watch or something tell you when you're about to have a heart attack? Did I read that somewhere correctly?

The next one. The next one. Which is like, that's great. That's a good way for technology to help. But like, imagine you just, like, we're chilling on the pod and I just get a notification. Like, here, you're going to have a heart attack in like three minutes. Oh, you got to take an aspirin. What is it?

Bayer? You take two bears and relax. Yeah, so I need to get that. That's dope, though. If it's going to tell you that. If you can do that, automatically call 911. Like, I don't want to look at my watch. Like, sometimes, I've had an Apple watch.

Sometimes you get a notification, you look at it real quick and you just keep doing what you're doing. Like, there needs to be like a loud horn if I'm about to have a hard attack. Oh, no, I'm sure there's some type of alert. Don't just get me a little ding-d-d-d-d-like, no, no. Literally scream from series voice. We come such a long way from the monitor that old people used to have when they used to push the button and call the police when they fell in their home. Life alert, yeah, life alert.

Yeah, life alert. Some of the greatest commercials of all time. Oh, my God. I've fallen and I can't get up. Yeah, like, how do you? Yeah. You know, old people used to wear them shit like, like Jesus pieces. You had to.

That wasn't the Jesus piece. If you didn't have them. that on you were going to see Jesus if you didn't have that on as an old person. No, that was old people drip for real. And they needed that. If the new Apple Watch is doing that, then I'm in. I'm in talking about getting Apple Watch. But if it's doing that on the next one, I'm definitely getting it.

The aura ring, the aura ring does that as well. Tell you when you're about to get sick. Alex has it. She'll be like, yeah, my, the aura ring told me like I've had a fever the past couple days. I'm probably about to get sick. But is that like one that's like connected to like astrology? or it's science? Like real?

Okay. Wasn't sure like your Virgo moon's rising. You may get sick this month. Your vote. Your Virgo moon is rising. If that's like the real shit. You might catch a cold. No, the aura.

It's not aura. Like a. It's not like a movie. A. It's not like a moor. A. O-U-R-A. Okay.

Gotcha. I've seen that. Yes. It tracks like your temperature, your core body temperature, how long your sleep, like those kind of things. Where does? I hate that. I'm this guy now.

Where does that information go to? Like, who else can see that. Oh, you know who it goes to? That shit is, bro, that's just tracking people. Yeah. Like, this is calling what it is. That type of shit is just tracking you.

Like, listen, you don't got to use it. I watch too much first 48. I could kill all of y'all get away with it. Not y'all, not y'all in particular here. I'm just saying, like, I watch someone's first 48. I know when they fucked up. She had your phone with you. You're done.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Nick you got his phone with him on a drill. Yeah. Nigger, what? You might as well live stream it. Yeah. And calling, calling your homie like, yo, I'm about to go.

You niggas take your, you know how sick you got to be to know that we're about to go shoot this whole block up? And you be like, you and the call, y'all about to leave. Like, hold, I left my phone and you go back and get it. Well, there was one case I saw where they thought they were smart. None of them brought their phones. They put in the address in their GPS to go. murder somebody. Oh my God. And they seized the car and was like, though, this goes from your house to the murder scene at the right time.

What the people are fucking. Yo, GPSing to a homicide is the funniest thing in the world to me. So imagine now I got an aura ring on and I'm going to drill. Just go sit in the cell. Just go, just that back one. The last one opened it and go sit sit down. I saw this lady her and her side nigga killed her like her husband. But like she had a ring camera in front of her own crib that showed them going in and out. Bitch, it's your ring camera. Like, it's your crib. You didn't think the disabled a fucking ring camera before you went and merch your fucking husband?

I found a new, a new YouTube channel that I love. It's the one where they catch people doing, like, trying to, like, bust fake checks in the banks. Y'all got to watch. This is the funniest. This shit needs to be on TV. This is the funniest shit. They be like, yeah, nah, hold on. We're going to go in the back and count your cash out.

Cool. I'm gone. If you got a fake check and the teller says, yo, just wait here, I'll be right back. Fam, if you don't get up out of here, they'd be sitting there. Homie was sitting there. He didn't even know the police walked in the bank. And he's sitting there, da, da, da, da, and they walked in order

him and he saw the cops sitting there. You could just see it in his face like, oh, my God. They're like, where you get this check from? He's like, yeah, no, you know, I just, I met some guy on the beach. They're like, what's his name? He's like, I don't know. I was like this, nigga going to jail.

People are fucking... You know how crazy? You got a check and you say, I got it from somebody on the beach, but I don't know his name. I'm sitting there like, you know, what?

I don't understand how people get to the point in life where they're like, you know what? I'm going to just try to bust this $2,000 check even though I might go to jail. And it's like four felonies.

They started reading off the felonies. He looking like, nah, the homies on me, it was one. Nah, it's four felonies. $2,000 and then he said he had to give his man half So now we had a thousand dollars

For four felonies Dumbest thought One of the greatest YouTube channels ever Have you ever seen there's a guy that He scams the scammers more or less Like the people that are in those call centers That try to scam everybody on the call So he hacked their CCTV camera

And was explaining what they was wearing in the chair It's like funny as shit Like he'll go with the scam for a while just to get them moving and then you'll have the location. I know where y'all at. Yeah. Even just look at the thumbnail of dude when he realized. Yeah, I love shit like that.

That's the best shit ever. That type of shit, that's real, that's real TV. For sure. That's real. These are not, this ain't no script. This is real shit. These niggas is really going to prison. That's the type of shit we need to put on TV.

Yeah. I mean, go ahead. This is a show on Netflix called, who call, is it the 911 caller? Some dumb shit like that where basically they show, they'll show three stories of like people who called 911, they'll play the 911 calls and they'll be like which one of these people was actually the murderer like because people be calling 911 after they committed a crime like like yo now my wife fell off

this cliff like i don't know her heart rate is this and like you got to come get her like nigger you pushed her like you yeah it's very interesting should be crazy when you watch shows like that and you realize like like who the killer is before it's like it's like yo you're hat like soon as they start talking it's like it can only be you that's how i know i'm getting away with shit but also it be people that sound guilty, like, when they get interrogated, and I'm like, that will also be me. If I committed the crime, I won't sound guilty. But if niggas think I'm a suspect and I actually

ain't do shit, I'm going to be in there stuttering. Like, I do that sometimes, like, when I'm just, like, nervous or, like, some shit, I'll start, like, stuttering, and it sounds like I'm lying, but I'm not lying. But what I'm lying, I'm crystal clear. Well, I shit. First 48 is a good example of why you shouldn't commit crimes. I've never seen anyone stand tall

in an interrogation room in First 48. It takes about two seconds for everybody start snitching. Yeah, I've never seen. seen anybody hold it down are the ones that actually didn't know anything. They'll come in like, oh, I really don't know. Other than that, the people that know snitch in about before the first commercial break. I've seen, I've seen some where they just be like, yo, I need to talk to my lawyer. Like, they just go straight to the lawyer, which is what you spoke. That's because they're in

the later seasons of first 48 and those people watch first 48 and learn that you could have a lawyer. But those first, like, five seasons of first 48, everybody snitch, no one asked for a lawyer. I hate watching people talk to the cops without, like, especially if you know you did something and you have no lawyer. Like if I know I committed a crime and I get pulled into interrogation, oh, we just want to have a quick chat. Lawyer. Yeah.

That's what you're supposed to do right away. Yeah. Even if I'm innocent, lawyer. But you know what it is? A lot of those times like, and, you know, watching enough of those type of shows, sometimes people can't, it's like a weird thing. People want to tell what happened. They do.

Like, when they commit, like, when they do it, like, they can't sleep. Like, they've been up for days. Like, they're scared. Like, they know, like, like. They just want to get that shit out. That's why a lot of times the cops are like, yo, listen, it's on your face, bro. Just, just let it go.

Because you can't, you look crazy. You're sitting in here, like, and that's when they just start crying and they just like, yo, I got to let it out. Like, that's just, I think, a human nature at some point. Now, you got some cold-blooded killers. For sure. Or sociopaths out there, for sure.

But it's like the ones that you, like a detective, when obviously they've been doing this for a while, they just could look at people in their face and know this person wants to let it out. Like, they can't hold this in anymore. But for the most, of those dudes, just shut the fuck up and say, your lawyer. If you did something to where it's like, you know, y'all are some street shit.

But those ones that just killing random people on their way home for, those are the ones you need to do. Oh, for sure. Send them niggas to prison for everyone. But I mean, you got to keep in your mind, too, though. If you could just get past those two days, the cops will give up on the murder. Like, no, dead ass. You just got to hold it down for 48.

No, it's not. What? That's not how that go. 99% of first 48, ones that end without finding. the killer, say the case is still open. Yeah. Cops got too much to do. If I commit a murder in New York City,

unless it's sensationalized, like, damn, I don't fuck around and killed a white lady or I don't kill the kid. Like, you kill like a regular, like person? Like, you get away with that shit. Nah, hell no. In New York, no. Yeah, they got too much other shit going on. You don't mean, people die per day?

You're not getting away with, it's not easy to get away with a murder in New York. No. Well, the cops, the cops, why it's easier for them now, the cops are tech people now. You just go from camera to camera to camera to You just follow the whole... Like, you're not getting a murder? You're not getting away with a murder in.

There's probably more cameras in New York City than probably any other city in the world. Like, you're not getting away with murder or murder in your... Only other... I think London. London got more like cameras. Like, you're not...

My people's in London. They were like, bro, if you kill somebody in London on the street, you're going to jail. Like, there's no getting around it. Like, they saw it. They definitely saw what you just did. Like there's cameras everywhere. Same for New York.

That's not happening. You're not getting away with a murder in New York. I mean, I have a friend that's a detective for NYPD and he says 90% of his day is spent on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter.

That's where he investigates. Somebody's going to say what happened. You're talking about it right on it in their chat on YouTube or Facebook. Like, yo, you heard what happened? But you know shit like this. You don't need to leave the office ever to solve them. Anything.

Just cameras and social media. I think about shit. like this podcast for, like, we just be talking running our mouths on this podcast. And half the shit we say we don't mean. But like, if I was ever, if I ever got committed, like, if I ever got accused of a crime and I went like on the stand, you know what they will play? They would just play the clip of me saying, like, if when I'm lying, I can lie smooth. Like, if I'm, like, you would never know that I'm lying.

They would play that against me in court. Like, all, everything we say on this fucking podcast will be used against us in a court of law. If I fuck around and killed, uh, that one niggas, Satan will, speak of. If I was to kill him, they would play the shit that I've said on this podcast, like, as, like, fuel against me. That's fair. But what this detective is looking at is the kids that are straight up saying, I'm smoking on that Satan pack right now. We merked him on this block. Oh, yeah. That's a day. Give it to you. That ain't real detective work. That's regular.

They put that through pro tools. They put the case through pro tools and then upload it to I tools. It's like, yo, it's right here, fan. We ain't got to do no investigation with this shit. I'm still thinking about that case of the people that put in an address on a GPS. Imagine sitting there going for a homicide and you're like, oh, 16 minutes? Great. I thought there'd be more traffic. Let's go the other route. That one doesn't have a toll.

Dumb as fuck. Like typing an address in to go commit a murder is the craziest thing in the world. You ain't even put in the McDonald's that's around the corner. Like you put that nigga's actual address in. Just leave your phone home, man. Leave your phone. If you go on to commit a crime, leave your phone. Leave the car.

Don't use your own cars. Steal a car like they used to. Or get on the bus. No, don't get on a bus. Taking a bus to go do a crime is crazy. You looking up the block and like, you're with this shit.

Bus late. Drive or back door? Back door. Bus late. Victim got away. Like, it's all kind of shit going on. Take a bus. Like, what?

That's crazy. Or imagine taking the train and like, damn, I got on the express, not the local. You got to go back. And go and then you just get so. frustrated and hot, you're like, I don't even want to kill this person anymore. Yeah, so, but taking the public transportation to go kill somebody. I'm sure it's been trains taking in to go Merkney.

Absolutely. 100%. Busses, trains. I'm sure our city bike has been used before. Are there cameras on our New York City trains, though? On the platform. Yeah, the platforms. But not, I think they added, didn't they add it with these new cars?

No, that's just a niggas sitting there. No, I know. You can see the camera, like. But the new fleet, they put a few in. The ones that don't even have like the door shit. Like it's just a train. Yeah. There's this new fleet is going to happen.

They should have. I was so surprised that they didn't been have them. I think they didn't want liability. I don't want to see what the fuck is going on on these trains. Honestly, that's how I feel. Because there's no way. Why would the trains everywhere in New York City has fucking cameras? Why would the trains not have cameras?

What about air conditioning on the platforms? Where is that kicking in? Oh, good luck with that. Because summertime on a New York train, a New York City platform, Yeah, bro. You didn't give us congestion pricing not to give us air conditioning. Yeah, like that's on the train. You know, you'd be happy when you get on the train and it'd be too fucking cold on there.

Yeah, but like on the platform, oh my God. Like, it'd be, I'm talking about sizzling some summer days on the, that shit is crazy. Like, there's no way that New York City does not have air conditioning inside like the subways. That is, that's, to me, that makes zero sense. Like, how was that not a thing yet? It costs too much, then. We have the money. Nancy Pelosi got.

$200 million. That's our money. If she take 10, they could put it from Nancy and put fucking A-Cs in all of the New York Subways. I tried to tell you guys

Maul's not the Republican you think he's a socialist. I'm just saying. You might be a communist now. I think of it. That was a very socialist Yeah, that's crazy, man.

What? Don't tell your friends. The redistribution of wealth? I mean, Nancy ain't doing shit doing. Nancy ain't doing shit with that. Nancy has a

life. Yeah, what the for? She ain't going to miss that 10. You know, put fucking AECs on the subways, man. That's what the Democratic Socialist feel. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. See, I told you, I'm not, I'm not this Republican. I think I am. I mean, we may have a socialist mayor or unless Curtis wins and then we'll just have more berets on the train instead of air conditioning. Yo, Biggs was asking me like, where you go, like to sign up for like the Guardian Angels? Like, who you got to go? Like, where is HQ? Yeah, like, when you want to be a Guardian Angel? Like, where do you go? Like, what's

What does that meeting look like? What is it like, who do you talk to? Like, because like I know where this, they have like the Scientology centers in LA where it's like, I know if I wanted to do this. I could walk in and be like, you don't go talk to Curtis Leewell when you want to be a guardian man. You're not going to sit down and have a meeting with Curtis. Guardian Angels.org.

Y'all ain't going to lie. I think I want to be a guardian angel. What? Why not? How much you think you have to pay for the fit, though? Because I don't think they just give it to you. I don't come with it. You definitely, I'm sure there's like fees and juice.

I just want the merch. I just want the merch. Oh, the fact that Kith has not done a Guardian Angels collab to me is... Yeah, like I just want... You're just leaving money on the table.

Yeah, you're leaving money on the table. You know, there would be lines around the corner to get that, that Kith, guardian angel beret. Yo, I'm gonna sign up. I'm gonna shout up for Guardian Angels. So for people, for our listeners who are not in New York,

not from New York City or are very young and don't know what the Guardian Angels are, they're a nonprofit, like, unarmed crime prevention group. It's like a gang first... It's like a Peter Pan gang. It was in the 70s and 80s, crime got so bad on the trains, and the cops weren't doing shit, the mayor wasn't doing shit.

So the Guardian Angels, I guess, made a militia to protect citizens on the train. And I just don't know what their vetting process was because I don't know if everyone could fight. Some of the pictures I've seen, I'm not like judging, but I feel like that guy would have lost the fight in the Bronx. I never saw Guardian Angel on the train when I needed one. When them blood niggas was on that train, when I was like 16, I ain't see a Guardian. you like, yo. No disrespect. I've never seen them angel before.

Have you ever seen them like stop a crime? I'm sure they have, but there's no footage. I've never seen it. So they say that new members go through training before allowed on patrol. Self-defense and restraint techniques, first aid and CPR basic. They just take them to that ta-quooation skills, which is important in community awareness. They just take them through a ta-quando, like basic like training. They do what we did in Detroit with our guy, with Dale.

That's all they do. Yeah, that's all they do. And then they give them the t-shirt and the hat and tell them to go out there and stand on the stuff. Yo, the Guardian, if being a Guardian Angel is crazy. In 2025, yo, come on, man. What are we doing? The Guardian Angel?

I'm going to sign up. I just want to go. I just got to go see, like, what's the process? Like, I just want to see what it is. Was that locations? Yeah. I'll go with you more. Yeah, let's go do it.

Fuck it. Let's go. Let's go. The headquarters are in Manhattan. So I don't think, you guys don't give vigilante. Like, I don't know if y'all got it in. Y'all to be Batman. Yeah, man, we could go.

Where's the Chinatown location? Chinatown ain't but so big. I've been on every block in Chinatown. I've never seen the Guardian Angel headquarters. Oh, it's on Kingsbridge in the Bronx. That's my hood. I've never even knew. They ain't never handled pamphlets out.

They ain't never run down on this at the park and do no recruit. They ain't set up the table. Like, yo. They're not on their dean up there in the Bronx on Kingsbridge, bro. The bloods are working way harder. Yeah, the brims. Their membership is booming up there. There's more brims than guardian angels on Kingsbridge, bro.

You got to get out to put your table on the sidewalk and get them pamphlets out, bro. They're not doing their dean up there. That's hilarious. That's the only question is why do you want to volunteer with us? Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I might fill that out. I'm down. I might fill that out.

Why do you want to, why do you want to, volunteer with us? Podcast content. I'm in a live stream. We're trying to do an extra tier on Patreon. I'm a live stream. I'm a live stream. I'm a live stream my shift as a guardian angel.

Yo, I'm a live stream my shift as a guardian angel, man. But get my backpacking on the train. Man, all right. That's what we got to change from our guest episode on Thursdays. Thursdays has to be dedicated to just you and I protecting the streets of New York on live shift. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what we got to do. Yo, get Curtis on. That's what we do. We have Curtis as a guest. For sure. We have Curtis come through and we'll kick it with Curtis and let him know like, yo, listen, man. You know, we're seeing this, you know, crime is back up. It's looking like the 80s all over again on these subways. We got to, you know, we got to get the angels up. We got to get more recruits out there and prepare them to kind of, you know, protect the city.

So yeah, let's get Curtis on, man. Let's kick it with Curtis and then go be guarding angels. There's one thing that may stop me. Speaking of no air conditioning on the platform, when it comes to their merch, I've only seen jackets. Like, what's the summer fit? No, they got T-shirt. They got shorts? They got white T's. All right.

They got some white T's. And you can wear, I guess, whatever pants you want to wear. But if you're going to be a guardian, you got to have, like, pants with pockets. You need pockets. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Your hand wipes, things like that. Because you're going to shake a lot of hands being a guardian angel.

Are they more of like a boots crew? Are they K-Swiss? What's the footwear looking like? No, no, but none of them niggas look like they can fight. That's what I don't even the old photos. They would have kids that was like 70 pounds with that beret on. I'm like, he's got his ass whooped on that train.

You can be 16 and up. Let a 16 year old trying to stop me from committing a motherfucking crime. Boy, if you don't see your ass. Wait, you only got to be 16 years old to be a guardian. 16 or up, yeah.

I would rather, what, be a Crip at 16 than a guardian angel at 16. How is that legal? Yeah, I saw it. I saw a meeting. No,

they probably do other, like, community outreach help. They probably do like volunteer. homeless shelter stuff. There's no way they throwing a 16 year old kid on the A train in Far Rockaway. Well, they also do training and community.

They do community work as well. So, yeah. No, I'm not cleaning up no park, though. I ain't doing that. Oh, you too good to clean the park? Why not? No, I did that when I had to do, you know, when I got locked up a couple times

and you got to kind of do community service. But I'm not doing that as a, my shift as a guardian angel. I'm here to fight crime. I'm not fucking rats. Well, they don't think. They don't think that you're ready, you know, you're there yet. Oh, I just thought of a great scheme that we could do.

If we become guardian angels, you know, we stay on our mission and get up to like maybe an exec level up in there, any people that need like a slip that says they did community service for their parole officer, we could sell community service hours. You don't even have to show up. It's like a no-show job. We could just sign off on all your shit because we're like, we're execs at, guardian angel dot co i don't think he's supposed to say it on the camera but it's all good no i was just marketing now now all of a sudden now let's get curtis on man that was an ad let's get curtis on

let's talk to him and let's see you know what i'm saying like let's see if if he'll have us as guardian angels i'm going right to kingsbridge i'm going right to my hood i can assure you if them niggas see me uptown with a guardian angel no i can't go but you got to walk on your block and pretend like nothing's wrong i don't even acknowledge that you're wearing the fit and people like what was wrong yeah like don't even acknowledge when you walk in that you have that you know Curtis man we got to talk to get Curtis on the on the line man let's talk to i can assure you that would be a very easy get there's not a microphone in new york city that Curtis is well one that that's not going to be a hard get for the volume Curtis bell now you want to

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Do you guys remember Mani from the Zoom Zoom room? For those that aren't on Patreon, we did Zoom Zoom room where we'll go on Zoom with some of our listeners that call in just to get more context from their voicemails. So we do remember Manny. She actually explains the whole thing, so we don't need to do a whole deep dive with who Manny is. But a listener reached out to me and she sent me a video. And I was like, what is this? And she was like, I'm with Manny. I was like, oh, you know him? She was like, I'll explain everything. Hey, everyone. Hey, Ma. Hey, Roy. Hey, DeMaris. It's me. I go by Milo on Instagram.

but my name is Lucretia. Long time listener. Always, y'amine B, like kind of commenting. Y'all cool as fuck. So I'm leaving his voicemail first time ever because I had a little smooth little link up with one of y'all's Zoom Zoom room little people, right? Mani, the one that caught in about the relationship issues,

dude went to jail, yeah I mean. DeMeres was like, yo, you fuck the key out of her, that type of shit, right? So when he was on the Zoom Zoon room, right, I was being nosy. So I'm a therapist. And so that, like, I became a therapist because I like to be nosy. So I get in the comments, I was like, I really want to know the real story. So he sent me his little Instagram, link, and whatever.

And we started talking on Instagram. And we were like, I got the whole little story. So, you know, try to keep a professional and everything. I thought he was cute. But, you know, I mean, I just kind of left it there because, you know, I mean, you just left a voicemail, you know, kind of crooning about your ex-chick. So I ain't even trying to push him. like that. So one day he had dropped like this thirst trap on, um, on Instagram. And I was like,

oh, damn. Like, you, you know what's up? What's up? He was like, oh, that's, that's what it is. So like, kind of conversation shifted and, you know, started becoming like a little, a little bit more, right? So he was like, I was like, you all I'm going to come see me. I'm going to come see you. So he ended up coming down here, like literally this past weekend. So y'all get the information, like, literally like 48, you know, kind of hours, like, whatever. We linked up, you know what I mean? It was a good little cool time. We watched, you know, a whole bunch of ballgames together because I'm a big football

fan. So we watched, you know, football all weekend, went out and watched the fighting, whatever. And, like, dude, real dope. DeMare's, you right. And I hope that that rings somehow, you know, kind of within what you were saying to him that one day? Yeah, you're right. So I just need to know, yeah, I mean, because y'all know he was, like,

croning or whatever about his ex-chit. Should I like kind of like keep his going or because he like crooned on y'all podcast? Like should I just kind of like just keep it like fucking like, you know, let him like kind of slide to the left? All right. That's what I need. Hope y'all have a great rest of y'all day. Much of love. And yeah, I mean, be honest.

All right. I love the support that Milo was given us. So I mean this with absolute love. You appreciate that. I've ever. No, she's the therapist with Sopranos. We thought they were going to fuck the whole time. No, they, they fuck.

I just feel like we should ask the therapist, should you be doing this? Don't ask us. I mean, if they hit it off, and, you know, no matter what her profession is, her occupation is, like, they hit it off and, you know, they had a good time. She was therapisting. She went into it to therapyize him,

and she fell in love with their client. Yeah, so she had sex. and she enjoyed it, had a great time. And now she wants to know if there's something that she should continue, like, pursuing. Should they continue dating and things like that? Or should she just leave it as, you know, we had a cool little, you know, weekend. And that was it. Okay.

So here's my thing, right? What's the thing? And I'm all for her. I love that she's a supporter of the podcast. Shout out to her. Thank you for telling me. I'm right. Here comes some disrespect.

That's my favorite. That's my favorite. My favorite four players, people telling me that I'm right. So here's the thing. She's a manipulator. And this is why she's a manipulator. I felt the same way. This is why she's a manipulator.

Why are you calling us on this podcast and asking us these questions when you know that that man listens to this podcast? He's a Patreon subscriber too. He don't miss an episode. You wanted him to hear that. And because you're a therapist, I know that you have some type of brains in your head. And you know how people's feelings work. You know how making a man think that you're considering him may make him feel.

like you already know what you want to do you didn't this call wasn't for us this call was for him um i mean i'm cool to be a ploy you know what i'm saying i'm all cool to be a ploy because i'm sure she heard the same things that i heard when he was explaining himself on that patreon because when i was listening to him i said oh he's easy to snatch up and please like i already know you you've given out he gave out his whole entire playbook on a podcast and you heard it and then decided hmm i could use this to my benefit i want to see if if what demar said was true now it is and now you know that he's easy to manipulate. That is my personal opinion.

But no shade to you. I'm listen. No, I'm never going to say. It's sunny. It's sunny. It's sunny. It's sunny. It's sunny.

She thought she could manipulate us with that conversation of saying she found him in the Patreon comments and wanted to talk to him about the whole situation. Your whole goal, the whole time, is to what is happening right now. But that's different when you're licensed for it. Like there's guys, myself included, I've probably done it before. a fake therapist to somebody and that ended up making them like me more and I beat. I wouldn't say it was manipulation, but when you're licensed to do it, now I think it's a crime. You can't take your degree and just go start shooting in the Patreon comments and then get them to a place and then be like, yo, fly out here.

Let's fuck. The only thing that I feel like she might have slipped up in and I don't, or maybe this is a part of her ploy too. Maybe it's an inception. I don't know. A dream is out of a dream. is that there's no way you thought that I wasn't going to clock that when you called. That's a risk. Him hearing everything that we're saying right now if you actually like him is a risk.

So unless you like the risk and you like the thrill and you like being able to tell him, no, they were completely wrong. Like I'm actually really into you. Like if you needed another level of challenge for the manipulation for your entertainment, maybe that's why you did that. But there's no way she didn't know that we were going to clock that. I'm going to add something to it. He knows that she sent this message.

I was going to say my third theory is he was sitting next to her when she was. sent that voice note. Yeah, let's keep this going. Yeah, they listen to the pod. Yeah, let's keep the shit, let's keep this shit moving. Let's keep it going. Like, yeah, that's all it was. Like, he knew that she was going to send that voicemail

and knew exactly what she was going to say. Because obviously... And he'll be sending a voicemail in a couple of days. They like attention is what I'm hearing. And then maybe we'll do a Zoomzum room with both of them. I think that's their goal. I hate giving people their goals. That is a trauma.

They're working for it. You need to work on it. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Saying you hate giving people their goals. When you're trying to manipulate me to give you something, I hate giving people what they're trying to manipulate me into giving them. But if the goal makes sense for everybody, then I'm fine with someone thinking they're manipulating me. No, I know the play here and I agree with the play. Okay.

Well, if that's the case, then we probably shouldn't call the play. Or we could have them on the Zoom room to call them out on their play. Okay. Well, I'm with it. I like games. What? Do you? Yeah.

Well, I'm the one winning. Exactly. I'm about to say, the only time you like games is if you win it. You don't like losing though. You don't like, you don't never talk about losing, though. But I still enjoyed the game. No, I don't know if you enjoyed it. If we play an Uno and I hit your ass with a draw 24, I may lose still, but I really enjoyed the game. If you lose.

Having a draw 24 on your hand is crazy. Like, if I had to draw 24 and you still end up losing, don't play this game no more. Like, it's just like it's something you might be on the spectrum. This is safe for you. You can't count. Like this, I got to draw 24 and I won, this game made for you. Do we have to put some respect on Mani's name? I put respect on listeners that beat of the listeners.

Yeah. And bagging it off the ZoomZoom room story where it was a split decision, like, you didn't look the best throughout that entire thing on certain parts. To be able to bag somebody off that and then link up with them a few days later, like I have to put some respect on Mani's name. Most men can't do that. Yeah, but she's a therapist. She wanted to fix it.

him. No, she wanted to beat. Because she's asking us, he's clearly not fixed. I keep doing this. Fix is a broken man more than pussy does. When a man is broken, give him some new pussy. Nah. What? Still broken. Hell no.

For our listeners. I've fucked through the pain before. Don't give me wrong. But I've done it so many times after that you know, once she left, I still felt empty. I was still sitting in the bed with wet sheets like, why did I do this? This didn't make me feel any better. I still miss the other girl.

This did not fill any void whatsoever, and now I have wet sheets. Oh, man. For the listeners who aren't aware of what Zoom Zoom Room is, Zoom Zoom Room is a Zoom call that we do with specific voicemail callers into our Patreon that we need more information from. So you guys might hear a voicemail on here, and then we might follow up with them on a Zoom call on Patreon. So if you're interested in that, sign up for Patreon.

But that is what that is. We've had some wholesome calls, but Manning wasn't the wholesome one. No. And by the way, he owe me pussy residuals because I'm the one that sat up there and said, I know it's good. So what is the residuals exactly? What does that look? Yeah, how do you make payment? How do you make payment on? It's a lot of shit going on in court. How does she clear debt? It's a lot of shit going on in course.

Shit is not clear with sex trafficking laws. What's tricking? What's sex trafficking? So we can talk about that off, Mike. Got you. So you're saying you either want some pussy from her. I did not say that. You're saying that. Well, if you see a picture of her and she's attractive, you're going to want some pussy from her. But that can only work with a bisexual. Like if I put Demaris onto a dude and she likes him, I don't want to be paid back. You can get money back.

You don't got to pay me back. I don't need you. I don't need that. That's all you. Let's talk about this off, Mike, because men usually give money for that. You never, I've definitely never, actually, I've done nothing. But I've seen men put a home girl onto a dude and a dude pay them for it. like, oh, you help me find a love of my life.

Here's some money. What? No, that's actually, I was trying to say, what? Pimping. You know people that have done that? It happens. Like, if I find you a bad, like, if you get a bet, not I. If I introduce Rory to, if I introduce Rory to a girl and they hit it off and I, like,

end up falling in love. If Rory ever tries to hand me money, like, yo, that night we went to the bar and you introduced, I would look at him like he was a fucking psycho. But that happened. Like, what do you do? What is that? Like, do what is normal people do, like, at the wedding reception, be like, hey, I have to thank more for introducing me.

my name is a face from you're like, don't hand me gas. There are some, some people who do not run into as many women who are good women as, like there's some people in some arenas that don't do that.

It sounds like you guys. Paying your man for the introduction. In the sports world and the music industry. They're just paying for pussy. Yeah. And they paid for pussy and they ended up liking the pussy they paid for.

Yeah. Like that ain't, they're not paying for the introduction. They're like, yo, like, what's your cash app? I'm trying to fuck tonight. This does sound like a funny, like, romantic comedy where then she finds out it was paid for and was like, no, I didn't know. I loved you at that time.

It's like one of those. Yeah. Isn't there? You can never have to be. There's always like guys had a bet, like who could bag her first. And then she finds out later. She finds out it was a whole office bet. And now she's heartbroken.

Like, oh, shit, I was the victim of a bet. Yeah. It's okay. It happens. If I ever found out I was bet on, I would probably end it all. No, you would be mad that you didn't get some of the money. That's all. You wouldn't be upset that you actually had sex with the dude.

You just said you want pussy residuals. I did not say that. Okay. That's one of those things where you, I believe you shouldn't have to be completely truthful and transparent with your partner to some degree. Because if we knew some of the things that were said about us before we started dating the person, when they were just scoping you out, talking to their friends, you would look at your partner the same way. Yeah, no. I don't want to know what you said of your friends in the group chat about me. Why not?

Some stuff I just don't want to know. Some stuff is only understood in the group chat. You don't mean it, but the group chat understands it. And I would not want anyone to see. Like, what would you see if you got a hold of your girl's group chat? I would know. What would you see about you that would like, I guess offend you or like make you feel some type of way? I mean, I never slept with a white boy before.

Like if it's pink, I don't know. I don't know if I could do it. Something like that would be. I wouldn't be offended. I wouldn't be offended. I wouldn't be offended. But I'm not offensive. I'm too much offensive.

Like you would be like, what the fuck? Like, I don't know. Like, what would you read? Like, especially she's your girl. I don't know. I just feel like when you're dating and getting to know someone in the beginning, there may be overlap with other people. Like, I don't know.

It could just get messy in those gray area days before like we are in a relationship. And I feel like anything at that point, everyone should just keep to themselves because it's not going to do any good and we're all happy here. I wish like ignorance is, I don't need to know. know what you and your friends thought about me at that time. I met Rory, but like I wish I meant, like, he introduced me to his coworker and was like, damn, I wish I would have met them all first. Yeah.

But then we had. But how was that offensive? That would offend me. That, he would not be able to get over the fact that his bitch. We did a whole, we did a whole sketch about it. Wish that she had dated you instead of him. He would not be able to get over. You wouldn't.

You would look at that girl different. You definitely would. If you went through. Like, all right, is she my girlfriend? Yeah, no, right now. She's your girlfriend. But before she was your girlfriend, she said like, damn, I met Rory and was like, damn, I picked the wrong friend.

You would get rid of her immediately. Even though she's madly in love with you, only loves you. But before y'all got into that right there, that's how she felt. Yeah, we're going to pack her up. But I mean, that's the point where otherwise you probably would have had a perfectly healthy relationship because it's just some things you just don't need to know. Yeah. Nah, something would have showed up later.

Those types, those types. Yeah, I would have showed up. The real prize. Oh, yeah. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. Take it with you.

No, I ain't tight. Take it with you. I got action on other lines. Being tight about a hypothetical that doesn't exist. It's funny. Oh, man. All right, Josh, do we have another voicemail? Let's save the world with Rose Sparks.

I just had a quick question. When a man cheats, what do you think the quality of that woman he is cheating with gives them the most? Like, is it love, the best eater? Or just more attention or should have bad? what do you think that like the quality when a man cheats what does he find like the most in that in the side piece don't let me know let me know baby d i don't know i mean i would i would say 99.99% of the time men cheat down cheat down as far as what they just are going to fuck the girl that's going to be quiet no but what he's saying what he's saying is what

what is he looking for like in the cheating like why he's making If a man, well, I mean, it's all subjective. See, it's subjected to what's missing. It depends on what's going on in your current relationship, what's lacking in your current relationship. And then if you have the side, it's like, okay, well, what is she doing? Like, you know, well, generally men, we're very, you know, it's a physical thing. It's, it's, she's, she's nastier in bed than my girlfriend is.

Like, I may not, we may not have much in common outside of the sex is just great. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, most, most of the times. I need to take two rows to keep up with her. But see, but here's the thing. Taking two rows and one night is crazy. I'm going to let you go because this is a y'all question.

But with that, it's like, how do you know that? Like, you would have to cheat to find that out. You didn't go and cheat. Like, you didn't cheat because she was nastier because most. No, but some of them come with Carfax. May have heard. And intuition. Sometimes you just know.

Yeah, I may have one of the homies may have had, you know, a little rendezvous with her three summers ago and told me. like, yo, the neck crazy. And I've always knew that. And then now, you know, we caught some energy one night at a random event. And it's like, damn, I heard her neck was crazy.

And it was worth risking your family for. I ain't going to say it's worth the risk, but like, just a little friendly fire, like just give me some firehead and we just go out separate ways. Like, yeah, my guy got a little head, but I wasn't really cheating. It's okay.

Women, y'all do shit. Like, your ex-niggin' still sending you money. every month like y'all do shit like that yeah that's that's how you're like the camera on me pete pete and zoom in peach yeah yeah can you get her pockets can you see her pockets and open your chase up zoom in on her pockets and then zoom in on her zelle app on her phone like yeah that's what y'all do he always do shit like that this day show that's the shit that's the shit that women do it could be even if you don't know it could be lacking sex in your relationship so you just end up fucking someone else and she ends up being the greatest eater and that's just a plus but also sometimes men are not

always that complex sometimes they just want to fuck another girl like yeah but that's that's you know i'm not condoning it i'm just saying that you should sometimes people just want to fuck let's not even make a men think sometimes people just cheat to fuck yeah that is true some people like just they could be whole everything at home is is fine yeah they just sometimes cheating is a completely internal thing and nothing to do with what's going on in the relationship cheating is a completely attorney. Yeah, but if a man is just sleeping around with a bunch of women, like, just cheating and his relationship at home is great, and she's like,

you know, a great girlfriend. Internal. He's probably gay. Now, when I said that, right? I might have high-fived you. We would agree on that, the matter. You know, I think all these do- Internet tore me up when I said it. Oh, because I like pussy so much,

that means I'm gay. How does that make sense? Hey, eh. No, but I think the way you, I'm just saying, like, if you just blatantly, if you have a girlfriend, you just running around cheating and just fam. You two have to explain this point. I do not understand that point whatsoever. If you like pussy a lot, it means you gay. No I'm saying. If you have a happy, if you have a relationship, right, you're in a relationship. Healthy, loving, you know, relationship and you just

can't keep it in your pants. Like, you just have to have sex. So are they in the cheating, they're fucking guys and going home to their wife or they're fucking women? They're just, they're sleeping with a bunch of different women. He sounds like the man. He doesn't sound gay. Something ain't being satiated, baby. I'm just saying. It's an itch that ain't being scratched. They ain't being scratched. It's the it's something.

Something ain't being fixed. You're searching for a fix. You know what I'm saying? So why not just go fuck the dude? Because they don't know. They don't know. They don't understand why the itch is not being, they don't understand why.

Sometimes you don't know you gay. Like, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of these dudes we run around angry, they don't know they gay. It's like, yo fam, fam, you. They just don't temper tantrums. And they just, they just. Yeah, like that fam, you ain't had to talk to me.

like that fan like that energy like that homo erotic shit you got going on like just go ahead and go lay down with me like yeah but you ain't going to be talking to me crazy yeah these niggas be mad upset it's like yo fit just go suck that nigga like nobody

it's 2025 nobody cares I promise you nobody cares like but you got to stop acting like this though okay I enjoy vagina I don't think that means there would be an internal. Like I wouldn't even, if a guy came by, I wouldn't even get aroused.

But I love pussy. So how would that? I do too. But I'm just saying. But because I love this so much, it means that I want the other thing. But I've been, I've been around men before. You've been a happy, healthy relationship. Not one single time have I looked at a man and was like, yeah, I do it.

You had a happy, healthy relationship and still fucking four bitches a week? You've done that? No. Okay. So then you're speaking from experience you haven't done. Could you ever even do it? I'm talking to the ones that like, like, I'm going to the store to get groceries and they got to go like fuck the chick across town because it's like. Just go beat off somewhere.

Or. Or suck a dick. There are sex. There are people who have sex addictions as well. No, that exists. Yeah, for sure. But I also just don't think everyone that loves pussy and fucks a bunch of women. I think that's more of a sex addiction than it is.

You know, you're just gay. Like, what would cure you would be some dick? They'd never know. I'm just saying. Yo, that's crazy. But that's, I mean, I was about to say something that mall would have said this fun. If you go and try it, like, you're gay. Forever.

It was like, granted, I know I'm not gay, but I've never tried and failed. I mean, like, all right, I just wanted to double check. But I feel like if you go like and explore that, I're in a different realm. I'm not saying, you know. That's all I get it. Certain things you don't need to try to know that you don't like them. 100.

That's all I'm getting it. 100%. So I'm saying if the guy. If I never agree with anything you said, if that's right there. Never. Never tried and failed. I just know that I don't need to explore that. Yeah, I don't know.

That's not me. So I'm saying for the guys that are fucking a bunch of women, if you have that thought, just go and do it. Because I feel like the guys that don't, just don't do it. Yeah. If you have that thought, go suck something. Like, it could be your... You keep waiting for, like, women. Like, it's only so many different types of vagina in the world.

You keep waiting for something to, like, change or entice you. I've had a conversation with a man before. He was like, my dad just always talked about vagina. Like, it was the craziest thing. It's like, I don't know. I guess I just haven't ran into the right one and you fuck 200 bitches a year. That ain't baby. That's just not your company.

Fucking 200 bitches a year. That's crazy. craziness. I've had some. There's not even, not even rich famous people do that shit. Yeah.

Masty men. 200? In 2025, fucking 200 women in a year is very fucking doable. That is crazy. You said you ran through 50 in the summer. Yeah.

You was on track. 50 ain't 200. Yeah, but that was one summer. Who's good at math? Three months, 50. Yeah, but 200 a year? But if you were on track. If you would have kept going up.

Yeah. If you were starting in January. That's, but I didn't keep going. But some people have problems, Ma. Yeah, that is crazy. 200 a year? Like...

That's wild. But it's probably more common than... Who has that time? All right. Rich young rapper on tour for six months out the year. And then plus a European tour. How many bitches do you think he fucks? Yeah, 200 is still crazy, though.

Because you got to think that, you know, if you're doing 30 cities, right? Mm-hmm. Average tour. 20 to 30 cities. maybe. I mean, you're not having the threesome every night. Who's doing that? Some people are addicted to threesomes too.

Ma'all, I think you be so... My niggas is gay. Yo, wanting to fuck two women making you gay is the funniest thing in the world. No, but just saying, like, yo, I love threesomes. You can be addicted to sex. It doesn't make you gay. It just means you have a sex addiction.

All right. You're addicted to gay sex. If you got to have a threesome every night You're addicted to sex Somebody gotta talk to homie, bro That's all I'm saying Go have an intervention Yeah, take a nap

A threesome every night Come on, fan But then again Let's call Neo, can we call Neo? He got four girlfriends He probably got the answers Neo don't have a threesome every night No, they definitely probably sleep with each other

More to him Yeah, Neo he's writing hits He recorded, I just got off state He's not fucking three girls a night. I'm not saying this about Neal specifically, but a man that would have four girlfriends at that age, though, to me, I'd be on mall's side of thinking at that point. No way a man at, how old's Neil probably? Like 45? I don't know. Probably somewhere around it, 42, 43. No, 42-year-old wants four women in his house at all time.

45? No, why not? 40. Why not? A 22-year-old would get sick of that shit after three days. No, because it's like having, it's like having, you know, your home girl's over, but we just So technically they're in a polyamorous relationship. So they're all in a relationship with each other. So he's not always involved. Yeah. No, I get that part.

That's fire. It's the only child. Live with you? It's fire. It's the only child in me that is thinking that being around four fucking people, like, every day. But having a threesome every night is crazy. Every night? I'm cool.

As much as I enjoy them, I, my advice to everyone is it's not about you. Like, you have to, now you have to please do women. It takes work. You can't do that and just be writing hits. On row, you can. But if you take a row, it might, it might get you to the finish. It might get you to the finish line.

I can't confirm it, but if I did go to Neo's house and open the mirror in the medicine cabinet cabinet cabinet. Roe is. I'm sure there's a lot of row in there. Actually, his new name is Nero. Order. Please.

Please. Neero. Hey, Neo. Come sit down in the studio, man. We got to talk. man we gotta we gotta have a conversation that's my we could probably get you a bag too to a whole episode sponsored by roe oh man that's hilarious oh my god all right well we've had fun talking to you guys we'll see you guys um baby d you good anything else you need to get off no cool

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