New Rory & MAL - Episode 407 | Talent Show

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

It's finally here. Cardi B's "Am I The Drama?" will be out by the time you hear this, and yes, Mal decided to talk about it. Rory and Mal both agree that Dame's interview on The Breakfast Club is one of the funniest interviews they've ever seen. Mal gives props to Cam'ron for handling Adrien Broner hitting on Stat Baby. Plus, we do our best not to kink shame our latest voicemail caller + more! #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you for that, Roy. That was so eloquently said and delivered to the people. Appreciate that. I don't know how to start pause, man. Just start rambling. That's what you got to do. Start talking. How are you feeling, man?

You've been, you've been busy, though. You've been, you've got a busy week. You've been in the studio every day. An absentee father. Yeah. You abandoning your child, right on par. Welcome. You are blacking enough.

Right on par. Abandoning your child to go live in a motel. Yeah. In the town you live in. 20 minutes away. 20 minutes away, yeah. Absolutely. I love it.

But, yeah, it's been a week. I can't wait to talk about it on Monday because it'll either go amazing or it'll crashing birds. It's going to go. Something's going to happen. I'm saying something is happening. When you're listening to this, something has happened. Something is happening.

As you hear this. But, I mean, I'm sure you're probably listening to the Cardi B album right now and not us. So I feel like we can say whatever on this one. So the album is out? It is out right now. As they're hearing this? Yes. It is Thursday right now.

All right. So let's speak into, let's speak as if we're already listening to the album. It's Friday. What are our thoughts? I mean, instant classic out the gate with the summer. I think the summer intro rivals dreams and nightmares. Hmm. I mean, that's really where I'm looking at it.

Can we pull up the track list? Because I believe I saw a very heart of the city-esque record for sure in there. I think even track six kind of compares to the world is yours. So, I mean, to me, it's just an instant. Now, I told you I don't want to talk about Cardi's album. But I have to. But I have to. Number 23, what a record.

All right, so here's the track list. What a surprise for us. Number 23, shut up, bro. Number 23 is Wap. But so the guest appearances, though, well, the features are Selena Gomez, Summer Walker, Kailani, Lizzo,

Cash Cobain. Okay, it's a Bronx record. Yeah. Janet Jackson. Now, are we thinking this is a Janet Jackson? feature or is this a watch to throne Otis Redding situation where now the sample becomes the feature? Well, it says principal, so she probably sampled pleasure principle. So I'm guessing it's not just the inters. It's a song.

Cardi is rapping on it. Do we think Janet recut something else? I would be extremely surprised. Jana Jackson has never featured on a woman's record ever in life, ever. So you're trying to say she's like misogynistic? Now, hold on, hold on, hold on. If Janet Jackson didn't cut any vocals for this, and it's just a sample, and I'm using the, can you say featuring Janet Jackson? Don't do that because, because, because your big bro did it.

He was actually the first one to do it. And I remember talking with my friends like, all right, what precedent did they just set right now? With what? Making the featured artist just a sample. Because Otis Redding, that was just a sample on Otis. and it said featuring, which I think had something to do with paperwork, but we didn't know that from behind the scenes.

The world just thought, Otis Redding was on, so it was like, no, this is just a sample. Well, obviously, Otis Redding couldn't cut. I know, that's why. So. But, I mean, this is the first time I think I've seen it since,

if this is just a Janet sample that now says featuring Janet Jackson. Like, if she's a primary artist on this, off a sample, times are just going to get weirder. Listen, y'all know I fuck with Cardi. I love Cardi, but I'm scared. Because that, that record,

that imaginary player record came and went that was just the that was the street record that was for mix show that was just a little taste before the album what street though mine why you're not playing that on your street yes I am no you not

cut cut the shit you're not playing that record okay are you playing that record you know what I am I even gonna bring up right now I'm not playing it but I'm just saying it came and went as much as the height was it's for women to talk their shit. I have the JZ version, which is fucked up to now even say the

I have the one. I'm just saying I don't and again, I'm not out every night but I just don't hear that record. I don't feel that record. What do you hear, Ma? Because you always say you don't hear somebody playing this. You don't hear somebody playing this. What do you hear when you are? I mean, I hear a lot of this drill shit. That's, you know, a lot of the drill

rappers. I don't hear a lot of fucking like South shit, a lot of South artists. I really don't hear like a lot of I hear Lotto. I hear Lotto records when I'm out. I guarantee at Sayless when Hit Boy was there, it was just on our episode today. I guarantee you that that record played at Sayless.

While he was there. I'm not saying it didn't. I'm just saying I don't hear the record. I don't feel the record for what we had going into the record when we found out it was, you know, the sample was clear. I'm just saying that energy that was around the record before it came out. Yeah. I'm just saying there's like you don't really feel the energy around the record is what I'm saying. I mean, I just think maybe you're not in the spot.

where it gets played. Where is it playing? Just the strip clubs? Strip clubs, hookal lounge. I don't know. Up on Dyckman where 20-year-olds hang out. Okay. I'm looking for,

I'm looking most forward to the Kalani record, the Tyler record. Obviously the Jenna Jackson record, just because I'm a huge Jenny Jackson fan. I just want to see what it's going to sound like and the Cash Cobain record. I think the Tyler one is the one I'm most excited about. I really hope Cardi and Tyler give us a joint.

It's not too late. Still September. I hope they give us one to get right through fall. Yeah. I hope. But it scares me. And this is like a back in the day thing, though. This is too far down.

It's really far down on the track list. And usually it's changed with streaming. But during the CD days, that used to mean the shittier records were towards the end. So I don't know. That is a very low spot for what we would think that type of Afrobeat-esque type of record would be. But I mean, it does follow up with killing you hoes. So who knows? Which is technically the outro, right? No, there's two more after that.

Well, no, I'm saying technically the outro. There's two more records. It's up. I love a technical nigger. And Wop. The outro is Wop. All right, where does Wop as an outro, I don't know, compare maybe to my first song on the Black album as an outro? What do you think? Like, really like ends an album almost in like a movie-esque type of

roll the credits way? to end a career. No, I got a feeling this album gonna be good, though. I think so, too. I think it's gonna be a good album. I thought she was rapping well on imaginary player.

My only thing was I have the JZ one, but if, like, the raps weren't bad. It's not like Cardi's not rapping well. Yeah, but it just didn't, it didn't land the way I thought it was. Like, it didn't connect the way I thought it was. Like, when we heard about the sample, it was like, okay.

And then we got it, it was like, it was cool, but it didn't really, it didn't hit the way I thought it was. But I think we're at that age now, which is even a separate conversation from Cardi imaginary players. Like when I would play certain rap records around my mom or my dad, it wasn't that they hated rap by any means. They would just have such familiar samples of music that they grew up listening to,

that they were like, this doesn't hit the same for me. And to me, I hadn't heard some of those samples before. So it was a fresh record to me. So for younger people, imaginary players could hit. We've been listening to it since 1997. So it's just like, I mean, I have this. This is embedded in my brain. Younger people probably hadn't heard that.

If you saw imaginary players when I think like the highest it had ever been in streaming the day after that came out. Everyone was like discovering the song. So I think it hit to some people. That's their version of like going through the crates and like that's the young person's version. They think that Jay didn't sample it like J does an original. No, they went they went and did the knowledge. on Spotify. Okay.

They went to search for it. But yeah. Out now, I'm curious what the energy is going to be. But I don't think you can accurately find that out anymore with Twitter algorithms. Like if I click, if I see one critique of Cardi tomorrow morning when I wake up. And you stand it for too long. Yeah, if I don't scroll right away. Suddenly you're in Barbland.

Or even like pretend my brain didn't even see it. I will just see negative comments for the remaining. of the day unless I seek out positive ones and click them and then click another one. So I don't even know if we'll be able to get a gauge when it comes to an artist like Cardi. Outside of just the stand culture, when it comes to women rappers, it's a little chattier from men, too. I'm not saying it's from women. Everybody has so much to say. Yeah.

Everybody's rap critiques when it comes to female rap. Yeah. But I mean, either way, congrats to Cardi. Getting out of album is very hard. Congrats on the pregnancy. So I'm happy for her. I know she's nervous, but this is big. What I'm, niggas is like, yo, you buying Cardi tour tickets?

Baby, when is the baby due? Because I'm, what's going on? When do the baby do if I'm buying tour tickets? So what's funny is? Like, what, you're going to have like a... She announced a tour, right? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, the tour starts in February.

I mean, of course, but how far before? four like what be going on yeah you know you got just six weeks past yeah some maternity leave some skin to skin some breastfeeding stephan's going to be probably in the super bowl he's not what team does he play for he definitely will not be in the super bowl you don't think so absolutely not you don't think new england shocks the world they don't have a chance okay well stephan will definitely probably be free um and i forgot the pro bowl even a thing anymore. I thought that was a sketch.

When Cardi announced it with Gail King, I legitimately thought that was like a funny promo. I still haven't seen it. Like leaning into the rumors. Yeah, I still haven't seen it. It felt like a sketch. And then everyone was like, no, this is real. Are we sure?

Are we sure that this is real? It felt very sketchy to me. That's a double entendre. I know. And I actually didn't even meet me too. After I said it, I was like, ooh, my pen's crazy. So is it official? Is Cardi officially?

pregnant. It's official. Allegedly. Can you pull up the Gail King? Allegedly is not official. E-News. E-News reports it today.com, page 6, ESPN. Everybody's reporting it. Then it's official. She's pregnant. Okay. Well, congrats. To her and Stefan.

You know, it's going to be interesting to see how she is able to have a newborn and then try to hit the road right immediately after. That's a tight window. That's a tight turnaround. February? That's a tight turn. What's that? I was like, when the baby do? Like, ooh. I don't think in any world that Cardi B is not going to be able to sell out her tour whatsoever. She's a loyal fan base. I know she's going to sell. I don't think she has trouble selling tickets.

But what a good contingency to have. Let's back up a little bit. You could just be like, we canceled the talk as the baby. Let's back up a little bit. Because when her and Stefan popped out at that nick game, you nigger sat here. She was like, no, she just having fun. She just. Yeah, I'm eating my words. Hey, I'm here to eat. Listen, man. I'm not Rory trying to sit here with his podcast. voice and talk about tour dates. Fuck the tour dates, worry. Y'all sat here and was like, no, she's just having fun,

you know, ah, ah, ah. And I said, all right. I said, popping out at a Nick playoff game court side is a statement. Okay. That's not fun in games. Let's not rewrite history because you have some words to eat as well.

What words? You were saying that the only thing that's going to happen is we're going to be happy for Cardi and then she's going to be on the timeline, crying about how he cheated on her, or some wild shit, and we should all not be saying congratulations. Clearly, the opposite happened, and she has a blessing. That don't mean she ain't going to still be on the timeline crying?

Well, that just comes with pregnancy. No, I'm just saying. You were really like predicting in that way. She can be crying because women are emotional. Which I was saying is totally out. What I was saying is still in play here. She's still got time to cry in the time. Well, first of all, fun babies happen on time.

You can't fun your way into a baby? Fun babies. Fun babies happen all the time. See, that's what's wrong. Baby's in his room. That's what's wrong. That's what's wrong. That's what's wrong with y'all generation.

You niggins is having fun babies. Oh, it's our generation that's starting. Yeah. Our generation. Yeah. That's your generation. Y'all like that shit. Let's have a fun baby.

Coming from, aren't you one of nine? Aren't you one of like nine? My pops is Muslim. And he could have all the babies you want as long as you can take care of them. Yeah, but I bet he had fun making a whole bunch of them. Oh, yeah. It's fun making them.

He ain't marry every single one of your mom. Did he? No. No. He did. So it's not like fun baby's been around. You're a fun baby. I'm definitely a fun baby. For sure. I'm not mad at it. But we ain't going to sit here and act like y'all was like, nah, you know, you know, this ain't nothing. She just popped out and having a good time.

You can fun your way into a baby and you can fun your way into a baby in relationship. There's like six romantic comedies based off that. All I do is fun my way into relationships. That's my tea. I hear her. I think that's the only way into one of just seeing how far it goes and going, well, we're here now. We're here now. Fuck it. What's understood doesn't need to be said. We're in a relationship now. What's understood doesn't need to be explained.

Well, listen, either way, you know, congrats to them. Yes, congrats. I'm very healthy pregnancy. Congrats on the album. Hopefully it's a benga. Hopefully we enjoy it because I don't want to come in here and talk bad about Cardi. But I might have to if the album is trash. I mean, we'll be honest no matter what.

Oh, I'm honest no matter what. But I'm just saying, like, I don't want to. I want the album to be good. I want it to be good. I know, obviously, Cardi has a child named Culture, which is always love that name, but I always assumed it was based off the Migo's album. Yes. We can safely say.

So will this child be named drama? That's kind of a hard name. I don't know if you're, like, putting bad energy in the air by calling him drama, but. I pray and I hope. Like I watch DJ Drama's mother call him drama and it hits. Yeah, but that's not his name. That's not, I've been with his mom and she says drama. That's not the name that his mother gave him at birth.

That's not on his birth. We don't know. Doesn't matter what I give you or what I call you. No, no, no, no, no. It matters what I have to put on this job application. It matters what I have to put on like, you know, I got bills and credit cards. You think Cardi B and Stefan Diggs child is going to have like a LinkedIn? And a resume?

Why not? No, I'm not saying I think children, no matter their financial status, should learn those skills and get it how they live. But I just don't know, like, with two parents like that, I don't know if the traditional job route is the one. I'm not saying the kids is not going to do shit. Like, they could do something in the creative world and the sports world. Like, I don't know if they're just going to be like my dumbass looking at jobs.com. Like, what's the salary? I fuck it.

I can't pay rent. I'll take the 35K. That's how I know you wouldn't look for a job in a minute. Jobs.com? Nobody looks for it. a job. Nobody works. Okay. What are you talking about? Who works? You have to stop. You have to stop.

Work right now. Who works? Who do you know that's like, y'all? I got to get up and go to work in the morning. Every single body that's not us, Ma. What world? And this is why they're behind you because you live in a completely separate world. Nobody works. Nobody works. Nobody works. Not everybody. Some people work. A lot of niggas don't work. A lot of niggas ain't got jobs. You go to work every day based off the people who wake up every day at 6. to listen to us talk bullshit.

I know a lot of niggas that listen to this podcast that don't have a job. I would say 90% of them do. The niggas is outside on the corner with a bomb in their sock. Mugger, these dicks ain't working? That ain't work? You hustling. Selling drugs with an air pod and listening to a podcast. That's how I was sell drugs.

That's the progressive way, yeah. And the niggas listen to them? People still stand on the corner and sell drugs? Yeah. That's still a thing? Absolutely. Probably now more than never. Wow.

I thought they just found new ways to do it. I just, I haven't just, like, walked past, like, a drug corner in a very long time. No, you walk past. Like, I just knew, like, all these guys, without saying, these guys are standing here selling drugs. Like, I know I can walk up to them and be like, yeah, you got crack and it would give it to me. Like, you could be in Times Square and it's like, yo, I got Coke, I got hash. Do you like hip-hop? Like, all that will happen in Times Square.

But if I'm just walking in Brooklyn, there's not, like, the corners that I remember where you would be like, oh, that's a drug dealer. You got to go to, like, underneath, like, the swing. Yeah. I feel like they're in the tunnels with the Jews. Like, I haven't seen a drug dealer in a minute. What did I say it was wrong? Did they not dig tunnels in Brooklyn? You didn't know he was a drug deal.

He's a content creator. A lot of drug deals are content creators. He's live streaming. That's how they washed the money. Just because you know, IG Live don't mean he ain't got drugs for sale? If Twitch knew how much drug money they washed? Yeah. Because it's selling drugs.

It doesn't work, man. Well, yeah, I would say 90% of our listeners are listening to this at work. 5% had a job, probably lost it and are looking for another job. And 5% had a job. are just bumps. You just did that math? Yeah. At least two of,

two percent are fucking local rappers. Local rappers have jobs? No, they do sometimes. But I'm still local rappers? Yes, they need to stop sending me music. And this is,

it's not. Yo, when the last time I've seen a local rapper, I don't know. You won't see them because you don't be where it's local. Like, you got to go locally. I do be where it's local,

but I don't know. Some of them have been local my entire life. That's what I'm saying. Like, when the last time you see the nigger that's like, I see them at SOBs every, every other. Like, yo, he rap, and it's like, where nobody knew that he rap? My home girl dating a nigga that rap.

He's been trying rap for a while. What? It's not popping off for him, no. Like, how does that go? How does that go? You got to walk me through that. What do you mean she's dating somebody that rap and he's, like, been rapping for? Like, what does that mean? Like, he, you know, he keeps trying to make it.

He doing, like, local, you know, come up talent shows and stuff like that. He's doing talent shows? Well, no, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. But you know what I mean? I'm not going to sit here and loud, y'all. What's a big of people? that are working hard at a craft and still have a dream.

And yeah. But if you've been doing it for 10 years and no motion has come, you need to get a job. Oh, no. He should have got a job eight years ago. Yeah. I'm saying the people that work and still try to rap. Like, I know people that tried to make it as rappers got jobs

and just their passion is they like after work. Where's the talent shows at? Well, you know, like up and coming shows like open mic night. Open mic nights. That's different from a talent show. What's a high school talent show? You just showed up. open mic and talent show is two different things.

You are correct. You are correct. I knew what she meant. You are correct. When she said talent show, I'm like, yo, who is performing at talent shows? Who's doing that? I'm sorry. I misspoke. Oh, open mic? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's definitely still a thing. And just so you know, we are not shitting on local rappers. I think that you're sitting on any rapper that's performing at a talent show that's not in high school. Yes, of course. But you should always follow your dreams. Just please stop sending me your music. Not because I don't think that it's good. I'm just not ever going to listen. like I always tell them I'd be like hey Rory this is more Rory speed like send this to Rory

where did they send this to you at and my DMs they'd be sending you music in your DMs if you check your DMs you got some music in there too no I don't and your message request you definitely do you definitely had the guy with the horse head trying to send you beats for sure yeah yeah that's my man he had some jokes like me and him kind of went back oh this my side you might change the drums on this one right here yeah yeah yeah he was consistent for about years. That's how long it takes. Yeah. On year five, I was like, I'm opening this deal. Yeah. Yeah. He got a couple of joints and drums a little, you know, you had to. And just how he presented it to of like, can I offer you some beats?

Yeah. With that dumb ass horse emoji. That is so. I was like, I got to hear what his beats is like. That is so funny, man. Yeah. Wow. Y'all may seem. Did you ever, well, you probably didn't do a talent show because your school was talent. No, we definitely had talent shows. Yeah, your talent was going to the White House. to sing for Reagan. Y'all was actually talented.

Yeah, our talent shows was crazy. Oh, I could only imagine. But it was always fun when it was like, because it was like, so you had the performing choir. I was like the set of like the varsity team. That was the choir that actually went on tour, traveled the world, the shows. So I was in a performer, in a performer choir. But there used to be kids in the school that you didn't know that they could sing or they

could, you know, play the piano. It would just be like, you know, the kids that we. thought was just like the little weird kids like yo this little weird kid like yo what's up with him man talent show time he comes he's singing baby face and we like baby face like all right what he about to do go up there and I'm talking about completely tears like baby face song a new like you was like this was the weird kid walking through the holes you never even knew he could sing like that that's what like you would be surprised at the talent shows in my high school like you find a kid that was like super, super talented, but he just had his, he just had his issues. He was kind of like a

Napoleon Dynamite. Bad kid. Like, you know, he didn't really show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a lot of that. But, uh, this, the same, my friend that I was telling you guys about when we almost got beat up by all of D Block, we were, we were on the, the open mic. At D Block. Remember I told you I was DJing for him and, oh, yeah, standing over me? So, you know, around that time, we were doing the, the open mic circuit. And we did Santos and, and, I meant he smoked it. I thought he was going to win. There was like label execs and shit.

And then the girl that ran the coat room went on after him. Her name was El Varner. Oh, shit. I've never seen someone who has come offstage with such confident. Like he smoked it. Like even people in the crowd was like, yo, like he thought that was it. And Santos at that time was bubbling like where music execs used to really go there to find talent. And I believe it was the courtroom.

El Varner was running the coat room or the door. something. So they let her on last. And when I say he had his chest out like this, El Varner had two notes. He was like, yeah, it's over. Yeah. Damn, yo. That's fire, though. I feel like that only happens in New York City. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I'm shit. Even like those times Sizzar was part of that whole time. I'm talking with Chris Casanova and Cs Armstrong. Like, it would be El Varner fucking Casey Veggies. Then you'd see Siza who like didn't even have a song out or whatever. Like that was just a fun. the fucking time.

Yeah. But it led to a lot of heartburn. Those are open mics. Those are, it's not a talent show. Yes. So when you say somebody's rapping at a talent show that threw me off, I'm just like,

wait, who is still doing that? Because first of all, how are you even going to that high school performing and you like a grown man? Like, it's like, niggins are in high school?

Like, he don't go here. Like, who is that? Like, he just came in and get some wreck. Like, he came to get his shit off and leave. Like, nah, you can't do that. Would you ever host a talent show? Like, you know how sometimes like bring,

like people from certain industries at bigger high schools like judge it. Would you do that? Yeah. For adults I would do it. I would do an open mic one. I don't know if I could say something mean to a high schooler that's like really trying his best. What you don't have to say that mean? I'm not saying you got to be Simon Cowell, but like if it's trash like what am I like I'm supposed to be like, like, yo potential. You want me to be honest? I would say you want me to be honest? Are you doing this because you love it or are you doing it because you want to be successful?

successful at it. And if you tell me you're doing it because you want to be successful at it, I would say you should probably stop. But if you're doing it because you love it. See, I can't, I can't say that to a wide-eyed 16-year-old following their dreams. You might save that 16-year-old's life with your honesty. I, shit. I love the Jerry Seinfeld theory. Anytime a comedian tries to get advice or talk to him, he says, you won't make it, you're trash, you're awful. This is stupid for you. And his, his theory is, if that stops somebody, then they wouldn't have made it anyways. Right. But Jerry Seinfeld is also like a multi-multi-millionaire that's like, like, he doesn't even live in the real worlds and like know about feelings. He just knows about sarcasm and

that and young women. But I have a heart, I think. I think. You think? Me thinks. All right. Well, we're going to say how much hard you have when this album come out tomorrow and come in here Monday. You know, you want her body. Like, what's thought? We've been changed the subject. No, we didn't. We started. We're talking music and in rapping and shit. What are you talking about? Bacardi is an adult. Like, adults can be critiqued. Kids need to be critiqued too. That's these problems.

Y'all don't be critiquing these kids. You know, when they first was coming out. When they. Okay. You got to beat these kids. Metaphorically, he's saying, of course. No, I'm not talking about get that fucking belt in the room and go beat that kid's ass. When I was a little younger, probably like around like in my early 20s and I was hearing people like, these people are too soft on these kids.

They're too soft. And I'm over here just so like naive to the world. And I'm like, no, like we need more softness and we need more understanding. Not that I'm grown, grown. Nah. Let me ask you a question. We fucking these kids up. Did you lose your virginity in your house or his house, your boyfriend's house?

I lost my virginity at a sleepover. This is the questions he would ask at the talent show after. Yeah. You'd finish singing. You're like, have you, right, your virginity. Because I have a theory. Like, girls don't lose their virginity in their house. Most like, no.

Yeah. I lost mine in a sleepover. I lost mine in my house. You're a boy. No, no. That makes sense. I'm saying the girl is usually... No, she was experienced.

I don't know where she lost it really long. She probably didn't even know. She don't remember. No, but I... He ran through at 14 is a... No, but it's a thing, like, because I was talking to my boy the other day, and he was telling me how he walked in on his son, like, his son had a girl over, and he didn't know.

He went to his son's room, and his son was in the bed under the Blake or whatever, whatever. And he was like, yo, why are you sitting? Like, then you all come under the blanket. Like, what's up? What you doing? And then he said, he looked behind the door and it was a girl in his son's closet. So, but she was like, obviously naked. So she was kind of like trying to hide. So he was just like, uh, like he walked out, closed the door. So he said his son was like, yo, don't tell mine. He's like, I have to tell mom. Like, there's no way. Like, I cannot not tell your mother. Like, but I know how to tell her. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know how to tell her. So he was just like told him on, but he was like, yo, he'd rather it happened

there because imagine if her father walked in or her at her house, that goes a whole other way. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So I'm thinking about that, I'm like, yeah, I think girls, yes, I don't know a girl that lost her virginity in her house. Like, if she has like both parents, like that type of household, like that does not happen. I bet the chick with the cool mom definitely lost her virginity at her crew. Oh, yeah. Oh, I know. I know the cool.

I know the cool mom. Most of us lost our virginity is in the cool mom's basement. And yeah, she lost basement. Cool mom's basement is where virginities go to be taken. Yeah. There's just souls of virginities right under the concrete. Yeah. And that's why fathers are important.

Oh, for sure. Oh, the cool mom never has an active father in the house. Yeah. Like the cool mom don't. daughter may have an active father, but he does not live at that house. Right. Whatsoever. Yeah, the cool mom not.

She, he couldn't keep her. She too cool. In this case, the cool mom is not the father's fault at that. That father couldn't keep her. She too cool. Okay. And she wants her daughter to be just as cool, be her best friend. All that bullshit that leads to, to hoard them.

Yeah, man. It's tough, you know? I know one girl that had the cool mom that is successful. She's the only exception to her. know one girl that had a cool mom that's successful? All the other girls that had cool moms are now got pregnant and are now the cool mom and the cycle just repeats itself. I am.

I lay. But are they not successful, though? It would depend on your definition of success. I don't know if they're happy and have great family to me that's success, whatever bullshit. No, they're definitely like teetering the like poverty line. Like they definitely got pregnant early to then stop pursuing whatever they were doing to go find a job at Coles and then they just became the cool mom. Sometimes they inherit the cool mom house and then the basement just becomes

it's like like nepotism of hortem. Why would you want your child to lose her virginity to her husband? That's so unhealthy. No. Yes it is. Yes it is. Why is that unhealthy? Our generations are unhealthy.

Hold on. Why is that unhealthy? My grandparents lasted 90 years together. Let's hear why that's unhealthy because you might you might be saying something. Because if he waits. Let's say she waits until she's 22. She finds love. She gets married.

She marries her husband. She has no idea what dating or what men could be like or are supposed to be like. She just knows that she has found her husband. She has signed a document that this is her husband and this is the first man she has sex with. And she's locked in with the first man she has sex with. Would y'all want to be locked in with the first person y'all had sex with? So clearly no. I just, how I described her.

I don't even know if she's alive. You don't know. She would shock me if she would. You don't know any. You don't know anything. You don't know anything. The funny thing is that's like the thing. Not really.

If one of my main's group shab was like, yo, I ran into, I'm like, really? What is she doing with herself these days? The last time I saw her, she looked bad.

Demaris, I agree with you in this generation, for sure. Unless you're like overly religious or super religious, then I could see that working in like a OD Christian type. But even, but the overly religious ones be the one,

Like, do you know all the things that are wrong in those marriages, too? Oh, no, absolutely. Okay. But they will fight a little longer for their situation. But I don't think the marriage landed at why it's unhealthy, though. No, because you have to learn, you learn more about yourself as you date and fail, as you have sex with people. You learn more about your emotions because sex comes with emotions. I mean, I've lost all of them.

But I did at one point tie those two things together. A double bag full of emotions. And listen, women, I'm not here to call you. guys emotional, but yeah. Losing your virginity, that was like always the age. Oh, if you take a virginity, she'll be attached to your hip. You have to learn how to deal with your emotions when sex gets involved and dating gets involved. Doing that for the first time with a marriage in this era, terrifying. In my grandfather's era, cool. Exactly. It was the only way. It was the only way to get the buns. You got to. You have to marry me. You know, the rest of our

life. Let me clarify. Let me clarify, I am not saying that it can't work. I'm just saying No, that's exactly what you're saying. That's exactly what you're saying. Stand on it. That's exactly what I'm saying. You're saying if you lose your virginity and get married to the man that took your virginity, it's not going to work. It's not going to last.

That's not what I said. He said if she doesn't lose her virginity until marriage, there's a difference. If you lose your virginity to somebody and then get married to them and you end up getting married to them, that's completely different. If you get married somebody, lock yourself in and then have sex with them. Okay, yeah, yeah. That's completely different. That I agree.

You should know what the sex is like with a person before you decide to get married and sign a, you know, a contract. You know how irritable I would be at my wedding and wedding reception if I was a virgin? Like, can we wrap this shit up? Like, no. I don't want the best man's, but like, yo, get to the fucking vows. Like, do we even need to get lemon chicken and pasta? Why do you think people go to city hall and do it? They're just trying to go fuck.

Like, you mean, fuck all that shit, man. Yeah, yeah, I do. Let's go. Yeah. The Uber. The Uber's outside. Like, yeah, let's go, man. Let's get this shit over with it.

But that makes sense to marriage. If you're saying that, I totally understand what you're saying. Yes, I agree. That would be not something I would want to watch, but it would be funny to watch two, like, grown adults that were both virgins, waited until marriage. I think it's beautiful. Like, just to be a fly on the wall in that hotel room where they try to figure sex out

after they got married. You always want to be a fly on the wall. Yeah. Maybe it's a voyeur thing. I don't know. It is a voy. No, it's definitely a void. And he's literally a fruit fly. He would be in there trying to give instructions. Like, he will be buzzing in here.

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I feel like we have to give Maul some flowers here. I mean, it's no secret that his brother and his crew created the term pause. And then Maul took the torch. And very bravely, in 2025, was one of the only people. that when you say something that has nothing to do with sexuality, he says, that's because you're gay. And then the torch was passed back to Dame in the crew. You earned, like, this is a legacy. This is a legacy of homophobia that I think is just incredible that now they're taking your phrases. Who's on making them? I'm homophobic. Oh.

You know, I don't think you're homophobic. Okay. Did you watch this Dame Dash in Charlestownain? I watched it three times, Roy. This- This- It's the greatest show on. earth right now. Let me say breakfast club as well, because they were all there. This is probably the first interview I've watched twice in maybe five years. Yeah, I don't watch anything other than like maybe a movie or a series. When you talk about interviews and things like that, I watch clips and things like that. But this Dame Breakfast Club interview was just another one to add, because I think every time he's done it, it's a classic.

I don't think he's ever done a breakfast club interview. He has the greatest breakfast club discography of all the time. When he put out the first one, it was like, how could he ever top that? Yeah. Yeah. No, this one. We didn't know what we had coming. So what exactly happened for the people that haven't watched it?

Because I only seen a clip. And the clip I saw what Charlemagne saying, raise your hand if you think Dame is broke. And I was screaming. I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on in this interview? But I didn't watch the whole thing. Well, that was after an hour and a half of things being off the rails. and any time Charlemagne said anything, Dane would say, well, that's because you're gay.

So then Charlemagne at some point started to get, not frustrated. He played into it well and was like, raise your hand if you think Dame is broke. And then Dame said, raise your hand if you think Charlemagne is gay. This was one of the crap. Oh, I thought you was telling the room. Yeah, no, I honestly.

Oh, okay. Before we get into this, I will say, I apologize for some of my Charlemagne hate of the complex list. Yeah. This could put you at number one after this fucking interview. This is the greatest shit

I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Because even like before when Envy and Charlemagne trying to talk or argue with Deng is one of the hardest things on earth. So the way they handled it of like really playing into it

made it one of the greatest interviews I've ever seen in my entire life. But where do we even begin? Nothing was covered. I just want to make that clear. We got no. answers on anything. No real questions were asked. Dame became a chairman in the middle of calling somebody that has been on revolt gay. Everything was insane. He was standing up. He was,

I was like, how is the mic even still picking him up? He's running laps around the table. It was the craziest thing I have ever seen. It was cool because Dame, he went up there. Well, he had announcements. We don't know how true those announcements are, but he had announcements. And he wanted, He wanted to use that as an opportunity for, you know, Charlemagne or Envy to say things that they may have said about Dane when he wasn't there. Like, okay, let's talk about it now. And Dane, you know, he started it with, you know, I'm not going to get upset. I'm not going to yell. So, like, you know, you're not going to trigger me.

Like, but just don't cut me off. Let me answer so that you can understand what I'm saying. So he went up there with the right energy. He went up there with the energy to kind of like answer any, you know, things that they may have been saying about him, you know, saying he's broken. and, you know, whatever, whatever, you know, they may have been saying, it's like, okay, so Dan was trying to explain, like, if I've been paying $250,000 a year in child support for the last, however many years, is that person, bro? Like, these are the things that, you know, so Dan, he went up there trying to teach them

and say, you know, y'all don't know because y'all was stuck in this box and this coffin every day. So y'all don't know what's really going on. You don't know business. So it started as trying to shed light on some of the things that they may have been hearing about Dame in so many ways. I think that you and I both know some of the things that Dame is doing legally to where it's like, okay, you know, we get it.

We understand. He was giving away a little too much on that down to the family office. I was like, oh, you know. So, you know, it's like, we understand. But I think he went up there just to have a come. But then in Dame fashion, it has to be entertaining. It has to be, you know, him, you know, talking shit about somebody in the room, like, snapping on him.

It has to, that's Dame. That's who he is. And it made for a great, another classic Dame Dash breakfast club interview. Now, some of the things he was saying, you know, his announcements with the chairman thing and all, you know, at revolt. You know, then I guess the president of Revoltz might came out and said that that wasn't true. We don't know if he's saying it's not true, meaning it's not happening or it hasn't happened yet. Maybe there are talks of it happening. But as of, I guess still today, I don't think that they've come out and released a statement saying that he's not.

He is the chairman. So again, because so much dancing and manipulation was happening throughout the entire interview, he briefly said, which I don't know how to fully interpret it. He was saying that he has a certain amount of time to buy it, I guess. Like he was the chairman, but there's only a window where he has, he has to make a choice of whether he's acquiring this or not. Yeah. So I guess officially he wouldn't be, but it was offered. So if he wants to be, he could be. I'm not going to sit here and try to explain it because I didn't fully understand.

But when they came out and said that was all false, I was like, I went back to that part. And that's where I think he was explaining. Like, he has a window. And if he wants to take it, he can take it. If he doesn't, then he's going to move on. And I think he may have just taken, like when your house is an escrow. Okay. I think he may have took an escrow role at Revolt as the chairman,

not officially, just so he could get back at Cam publicly. And I don't think he will be taking that revolt, Chairman Joe. I think that was all just a play to be able to go to breakfast club and say, Cam, I'm your boss now. Yeah. I thought he was going to have way more smoke for Envy. Outside of the first one, Envy was the one on Instagram last week in front of all his cars. Like, this is what not being a boss gets you after Dame had filed Chapter 11. I thought he was going to come with Envy Smoke.

I didn't know he was going to be calling Charlemagne gay for two hours. Yeah, he filed Chapter 11 or Chapter 7. A Chapter 7, I'm sorry. Okay. But. Classic, though. How do you argue with somebody when, because even towards the end, Charlemagne tried to get it back on at least subject.

How do you argue with someone, and when you ask a valid question, the only response they have at that point is it's because you're gay. The funny thing is, In the beginning, they were cutting Dame off, but then they stopped. And then Dane would ask them a question and they tried to answer me like, stop cutting me off. It's like, you just ask me a question. I'm answering your question. That shit is a classic though.

That's a classic, classic breakfast club. One thousand, like the first, I saw a clip first. And I said, oh, no, I got to watch. Like, I can't just watch clips. I have to watch it because I knew just that energy that Dame had in that clip that I was watching. And him calling Charlemagne Gay, I was. just like, oh yeah, this is another classic about to have them. And this is why you just can't argue with anybody from Uptown.

Because they have this strategy, and you do it too, where you get other people involved in the room that want nothing to do with it. And then they sit there awkwardly. Like, when he was arguing with Charlemagne, he went over to Jess. Jess hadn't said a fucking word yet. He's arguing with Charlotte. And I forgot exactly what it was. So I'll use an example. Jess, is he gay?

Yes or no? Is he gay? And Jess is like, I'm not, I don't. Dude's from Uptown, that's how they argue in rooms. They just bring in other people and be like, yo, yes or no. Like, dude, I'm not in this. I have no. Don't try to use me to prove your point.

And then when you do that, they're like, see, see? He thinks the same thing. I mean, well, Envy said he thought Charlemagne was gay too, though. He just said, I think he's kind of gay too. So I think envy was being like funny. Like, that's his co-hosts. Like, that's like if Rory said that about one of us, like, well, I mean, you are. And you are too, nigga, now what?

He's gay. He's gay? You can't, you can't steal. Yes. He's not gay. You sound like you want me to convince you that he's not gay. You sound like you want me to convince him. No, no, it's not that.

You can't do that because you're actually gay. Like, that's on record. What? So, there's no gay. Are you trying to recruit me? Like, I don't know. Rory's not on record doing gay shit. Like, don't do that.

Don't even start that. So I'm not on record or off record. I was about to say so because he's not a single record. No, no, for a of y'all, because at one time I did get a lot of pussy, and I must have been gay at that time. No, no. You wasn't getting the type of pussy. Like, you really, that's why you was trying to defend it. And I wanted to say in my head, Rory, you wasn't getting that type of pussy that we talk about.

Yeah, like, you wasn't, and you wasn't like in a, see, we were saying, like, when you're in a healthy relationship and you just can't stop. Oh, no, we got off the relationship part. Then we were just going into just getting mad pussy. Like, if you just fuck a lot and, like, run through girls, you're gay. That's, we did not say that. Oh, okay. Yeah, we left there. We were talking, we were talking about in a house with just cheating on your girl.

Like you're a monog, serial cheater. No, I'm saying just like, hofay's on tour. No, no, no, that's not the same. Different city. Like we're saying, you have a queen in the home. Just saver as Tennessee. We've all been there. Love Miss Tennessee.

Love her. I wonder how she's doing in life. But yeah, this breakfast club interview, though, definitely more for the red. Dame has, people say what they want. Dame has the ability to, like, sit on a platform. platform and like, you know, I guess go viral whenever he wants. He has that. Like he's he's that type of personalities.

He's, you know, he speaks about, he says whatever the fuck he wants to say. He's not apologetic about what he wants to say. And then he says, you're like, I'm the chairman of revolt and people are just like, but revolt says you're not. And then he calls them live. Yeah. Then he reposted on his Instagram and says, this is a lot. So it's like, you know, anybody that has the ability to do that. You know, then this is people are going to watch it.

People love that type of shit where it's just like, yo, this dude is crazy. But Dame is not crazy. Dame is definitely crazy. His methods and, you know, the way he goes about things are a little unconventional, but he's had success in being unconventional. So that doesn't matter. Yeah. I just think the fact that he was up there and, you know, it kind of got a little,

a little tension between him and Charlemagne is what kind of made that whole thing. Like, oh, no, I got to watch it. But, I mean, they both handled it. very well because it could have went left and I liked how both of them had that understanding because even when Dane was like I could punch you in your face right now you would do nothing I would never do that but you're feminine like you're proud you were proud of running yeah I'm proud of staying and get my ass for right you're gay yeah it's like wait dame yeah you didn't do the math like that's yeah you ran yeah like you ran I wouldn't yeah you gay like I mean to your point of

Dane so easily going viral that's why I was happy I mean, kudos to Dame would be in ahead of his time with the paywall stuff and the network stuff. And, you know, that's tough to do. America new, because Dame would see this and be like, yo, y'all didn't shout out. American new.

I was about to finish right here. I love that even with his network and the paywall stuff that he was ahead of, he now has been focusing a lot on his American new YouTube page. So whereas he still does art of dialogue. Those interviews are classic. He'll still do Breakfast Club.

But lately he's been going viral on his YouTube page. Yeah. That's what I love to see. because I know the paywall stuff can just get tricky. It's just tough to go viral. So I love that he's been focusing on the American New YouTube page and those viral moments go to him, not to somebody else. So, damn, I'm curious to see where he pivots through this whole thing.

Yeah, that revolt shit, yo. If that never happens that he's the fucking chairman, that's going to make this episode even more of a classic. Like, he went up there and gave us straight bullshit, like, and was standing on it. Like, why you didn't say, Congratulations. Like he was mad when he didn't say Congress like, nigger, you're not the chairman of revolt. Like, what are we congratulating? Like,

there's nothing to congratulate. If he's not, we're going to get a great viral moment of him explaining to all of us that we don't know business. If we knew business, you would know that the chairman is always invisible. Yeah. I didn't put it under Dame Dash as the chairman. Boogie is the chairman of revolt. My son is. Yeah. You know you're getting one of those if it turns out. A hundred percent. And listen, we may not understand. I've never been a, a, fucking chairman of a company like that.

So I don't fucking know. What you think about the back and forth for him and can. I don't, like, I don't want to see it. Like this is, it's just too, it's going to,

it's already getting personal, but it's like, this, this has the, the breakfast club thing with Charlemagne, that's, you know, just laugh jokes,

him and Charlemagne don't really know each other like that. They don't have no history together like that. But with Cam and Dame, there's a lot of history, a lot of personal things, a lot of, you know, I'm, this one is the one I kind of want to see just stop. I don't want this to continue.

Yeah. I mean, obviously, their lifelong history and how, you know, Dame got came out of his deal, got him back moving, and just everything they've done together outside of just music, just his friends since kids. Dame asked in that Breakfast Club interview, this was the one time I was actually mad at the room because it was all fun in games, but he did ask a serious question to the whole room of explaining what was happening with him and Cam. And he said, do you think it's cool if I reached out to your son

during a petty internet back and forth? And everyone in the room was like, I don't know enough about it. Yeah, envy was bugging. And I'm like, dude, and listen, I have nothing but love. I have nothing but love and support for Cam. I love Cam. But that, you're wrong. You're wrong for reaching out to Dame's son to pay him

to either come on the show, do something. Nah, this is between me and you. even if you had a relationship with Boogie since he was this tall, you're using it in a negative way to go at his father. You're not trying to help. If you wanted to help Boogie with money, you would have done it before, not when we're arguing.

You're wrong. Yeah. Like if me and you are arguing, like, you know, I don't have to not speak to your kid, your daughter, but like, I'm also not going to hit Amara and be like,

yo, get some bread, you want to come on my show. After I didn't put out a clip of you talking to Amara crazy on the TV show, family therapy. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm not, that's just, you don't, you don't, you don't do that.

That's like completely out of bounds. And, you know, envy and I was sitting there acting like that wasn't like, no, I mean, you know, it depends on the relationship. No, it doesn't. It doesn't matter what the relationship is with the kid. You don't do that. You don't call nobody's kids and try to backdoor an interview so they can come up here and agree with me saying,

or me putting up a clip of your father talking to you in a way that a dad probably shouldn't talk to their children publicly. Yeah. Now, behind closed doors, you know, things get heated at home and, you know, the relationship between parents and kids kind of get strained as kids become young adults and things like, we know that. But for that to play out, and, you know, to be fair, Dame was wrong for speaking to his kids like that, especially on camera on television.

We talked about that years ago on the, on the bar. Yeah, that's, that's, you know. But again, that's his, that's his family. So I don't even really comment on. That's his family. But I just don't agree with talking to your children like that publicly. Now, behind closed doors, family businesses, family business, that's none of our business. But like, when you're sitting on VH1 doing that, I have the right to be like, yo, that's a little too.

Because Lord knows what you're saying. When you're not on camera, if you're that bad on camera. That only one would start to think. Like, if you're saying that on camera, what is the relationship, what are the conversations like when the cameras are going? That does make logical sense. But I do think Dame is pretty much the same person all the time. I don't think he's less or more with camera. I think it's the same dame.

Oh, no, for sure. I mean, I can definitely attest to that without a doubt. Like, it's not a performance. Yeah. It's definitely not a performance. But, you know, again, you don't want to get to a place where we start reaching out to people's children. Oh. And trying to use them as, you know, a feature in your latest back and forth or your latest viral episodes.

Like, it's just, it's not a, it's not an honorable thing to do. Even to depend on the relationship, you could talk to my son. every single day, but now you're using him for a public dispute between us. And I think that's, I think the kid shit is super corny and over the line for anything, even if y'all don't even know each other, even if it's some fucking weird, live stream war or whatever. And y'all don't even have a relationship. Like, nobody even really knows each other.

I think it's over the line then. But if we've had a history of 40 years, that's even fucking crazier. Yeah. Like, no, as men, this is gone to, like, we, we can have our back and forth publicly, whatever. We're both been in the limelight forever. Things are going to be public. But kids, no. We're getting on the phone.

Yeah, that's why I asked. We're getting on the phone now. This is, this is not. Well, I mean, to Dames, to Dames' credit, he did say he reached out to Cam and tried to have a conversation. And Cam, Cam, co-signed said he's ignoring his calls. He's not, you know, he didn't want to pick up. So Dane felt like going on, you know, setting up the camera in his crib and talking was the only, only route to go. But I just don't want to see it going any first.

than this because again things are going to start being spilled and said that I just don't think it's for definitely not for entertainment because that's what this is. It's not they're not going to fight. Like Cam and Dame are not going to, it's not going to get physical. So it's like when you look at it, okay, this is entertainment. This Dame has a, he has a platform, Cam has a platform. So for entertainment, I don't want to see lifelong history and secrets and, you know, personal things be aired out just to kind of prove that somebody's a liar or, you know, somebody is, you know, fake and not who they say they are. It's just like, because once this shit is all over, we all going to sit back and I'm like,

what the fuck was that for? Like, we'll be moved on to the next thing and it's like nobody's going to, but now we know all of your business, like personal shit that we should have never even been privy to. Like, that's where I just don't want to. And then they're too old for this shit. Like, this is what the young, like, young dudes are supposed to be doing this type of shit on the internet going back and forth. air and shit out like not the

we can't expect for the young generation to carry themselves a certain way when the 50 year olds is doing shit like this it's like like bro look at what y'all are doing like y'all are going back and forth about whatever it is because I still don't even really understand what this is about I just don't want to see it going any further than this

because it can get real personal and real dirty real fast I've been trying to tell you for five years in this podcast I don't know if Harlem sticks together the way y'all say it does Harlem definitely does not stick together the way they say it does. It definitely does not. Again, ignorance of business, if he becomes the chairman but doesn't I revolt,

because you could just be elected to be a chairman. Like you could be hired. Does that, like, contradict everything Danes talked about? Because, like, in that very chair for the first Breakfast Club interview, he said, you're not the boss unless you put up all the money. If not, you're just a well-paid supervisor. Mm-hmm. So is he not a boss anymore if he becomes the chairman but doesn't buy revolt?

Because you could be a chairman and not buy a couple. Right. Well, again, he says some things in his way. He's been trying to acquire a revolt for a couple of years. Maybe this is his path to doing that. Oh, no, I mean, if he buys it, yeah. Yeah, I don't, you know, I don't know. It's not, you know, I'm not privy to that type of business.

But one thing I never really on a personal level that I can remember. I never remember Dane being a liar. Yeah. Like that wasn't that wasn't part of his like when people like, Dame E-Line, that was not something that people said. Now, Cam's stance is a little different today because even he said was like, you know, people always told me you was a lie.

I never saw that. Like, but me personally, you know, again, I haven't been around Dame in years, but the Dame dash that I know was never a liar. I can never say that people sat around and called Dame a liar. Yeah. Things may be different today. Maybe some things that happened that I don't know about,

that people can speak to that I can't. But from what I remember and what I know and what I was around growing up, Dane was never labeled a liar. So hopefully this chairman shit is real. Hopefully it goes through, you know, and we would have to wait for the next episode of Dame to decide when he wanted to go viral again.

He got his teeth, though. Y'all don't want to talk about that. I didn't talk about it when you didn't have teeth. No, don't do that. Don't do that. We got to put that out there. Dame Dash got his teeth. Yeah.

I think that's great. Yeah, I think that's great. Come on, man. I'm saying? Like, expect Dame for that. You know, he didn't care about y'all laughing about him with no teeth and an eye patch. He was like, fuck that. I'll be vulnerable, you know.

Yeah. And try to tell us that was all part of his skin. Oh, of course. Oh, that was my favorite part. Dame is a sick man. Ma, if you lose your side tooth, would you still come to work? If I did what? Lose your side tooth.

My side tooth? Mm-hmm. Would you still come to work? I mean, I would. like think about maybe fixing that before let's say but it usually takes a second because they got to make you another tooth to fit in there you got to get like whatever you got to get attached they could put a like a temporary in your little flip you get a little flipper yeah yeah put a temporary in a little bit like if you lose your if you lose your tooth on Wednesday I'm not going

just come in here with a headlight out though I'm not doing that but I'm saying but contractually you lose your two fine Wednesday we got record on Thursday two episodes no we got something banked we got something to talk that we could just put out. You could call in from your boost phone and we'll add your audio. We'll put the DDG episode out. We got the DDG episode on Ice that you all. Y'all didn't want to. I said if I lose my two, hey, DDG, listen, man, what care about?

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Yeah, but no, it wasn't. It definitely wasn't. Adrian Bruner was being disrespectful because he was asked once, hey, her boyfriend's here, please don't do it. And then he kept doing it. Like that was. DDG didn't do that. No, he didn't do that. It wasn't a disrespectful thing.

So I love that Cam did this. I have two comments on it. Okay. Well, from what I see that people are comments on, the number one thing that I'm seeing that people are commenting on is they're saying that Cam started. Well, Cam started talking shit once Adrian was gone. Caught him a junkie and was popping shit. But when he was there, he said, you know, it's much love.

My brother, respect to you. Thanks for coming by. Like, I love you. Now, you know, Adrian can fight, right? Like, you know he's like... No, I'm aware. Listen, I'm, I'm commenting on what people are on the internet, the backlash that I saw Cam get, right?

How would y'all have handled that scenario? You don't have to use me as an example, but how would you guys... So they were heading on Peach? How would you guys? So Agent Brona comes in here. He's flirting with Peach. And we're asking him to stop because Peach is the heterosexual. Have handled that scenario.

The same way. I would have... Adrian, you got to... Clearly, Adrian wasn't in the most clearest of minds. He looked like he probably was hanging. out. It was fight, just coming off a fight weekend in Vegas. Like, he probably was a little intoxicated, hungover, partying. So he, and it looked like Adrian didn't even know he was going to be on the show level, like, because he was like, oh, y'all, y'all good. Like, y'all

got me. Because he's like, he just came in there because I don't know if people know, but the studio is in the lobby of a hotel casino. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So, like, if you ever been to Vegas, they have all the restaurants, stores. It's just like that. It's just that it's a studio. And people walking by, you can actually, when they're recording, you can, like, walk by and see Cam and Mates recording. So I think Adrian happened to just be in the hotel and was like, you know, just popped in. But I don't think, because if you look at the very beginning, I don't think he knew that he was going to be, they were going to be recording and he was going to be on the show. And that's why Cam paid him because it was on some shit like, yo, just come on hop on real quick.

The fight just happened this weekend. Yeah. We just wanted to just talk about the fight real quick. But, you know, Adrian was a little hungover, a little, you know, might have been on, you know, just a different cloud at the moment. And he's an asshole. It's okay to say that. Well, yeah. I mean, put that in there as well.

And just, you know, just the energy that he was, you know, showing stat baby was a little flirtatious, a little awkward, a little weird. And her boyfriend is there. Actually, you know, like he's present. And Cam is like, yo, like, try to give him the cool, like, yo, chill, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you. And then it just got to a point where it was like, this is too weird. Like, it's not, it doesn't make no sense for you to keep sitting here.

Like, we can't even, every time we ask your question, this is what you're starting. Like, yo, you are so beautiful. It's like, all right, bro. Like, we're not going to keep doing it. So Cam was right in what he did and we handled it. But I think the, you know, what he said after Adrian left was a little unnecessary. Like calling him a junkie and all of that. I think that was a little unnecessary.

Like, he could have just left it at, you know, thank you for coming, paid him for his, you know, this time. I think Kim was pissed off, though. He was pissed off. I think he was pissed off. I think like when he was talking, he might have meant. I mean, obviously he meant what he said, but you know when you upset, I think Kim was really pissed off. And I think the more he sat there and thought about it.

Cam knew he was twisted. He knew he was drunk. Anybody, you know that. Look, and I'm sure they were having a conversation before they started recording. You could tell when somebody here, this nigga, he twisted. And I think, you know, that was it. But I just, again, I think he could have just left it on, yo, thank you for your time. You know what I'm saying?

If you want to wait for us outside. cool he didn't have to get into yo fucking junkie the standing there like he didn't have to do that that was a little or do it off camera yeah or if you're gonna do it like don't let it don't let that see the light of day yeah you know what I'm saying like make sure they cut that like don't know but that but y'all know that ain't keep no it yeah but it's yeah but it's again say it why he's in the room uh I mean listen if you're gonna say it I get it I get it why he's there like yo get out the room you fucking junkie like get out of here if it's it's there like you're gonna It's that.

If that's the energy, then, all right, yeah. But again, I just think that, you know, Cam handled it professionally at first. It was like, stood up for stab baby, like, yo, bro, listen, God, let you go. Thank you for your time. Professional. You got a suit on.

You got shoes on. He kept the professional. Hard bottoms. Hard bottoms. You know, he's sliding all over the place. He kept it professional. And it's also Adrian Bro. But it's Adrian Brun at the same time.

Like, niggas ain't going to just put their hands on Adrian Brum. That's not going to happen. Yeah. Niggas is going to sleep. The average niggins could be on every substance and you're still going down. Yeah, like Terrence Crawford might can't talk like that. Like, no, I know what I'm saying?

Like, Cam can't talk like that to Adrian Brona because, you know, obviously it'd go somewhere it don't need to go. And I thought Cam did a great job, was very professional. I would have loved to see him just leave it there. I get. Keep it professional. Yeah. Would y'all do that for me?

Yeah, of course. Kick a nigga out of here? Oh, Cam handled that better than I would. Like, if it was that type of, I would like, yo, bro, like, come on, my nigga. and I'm not paying you. I thought that was super honorable with Cam Dey. Like he pulled up there. I was like,

oh wow. Yeah, he peeled off for him. It was like, I was real. I was like, okay, I wouldn't have did that. It was like,

nigga, we didn't get what we wanted to get. Like, it's like you in here flirting with Demaris. To my, yo, you are so,

like, bro, we're talking about Terrence Crawford and Canello and you sitting here keep talking about Demaris. I didn't realize you was that pretty. Like, oh my God,

you are. Yeah, we've never had a disrespectful. Go ahead. We've never had a disrespectful guest like that. We had guests flirt with me, but not that bad. He was on his Broadway Joe Namath shit. You remember on the sidelines when he was talking to the ESPN reporter?

Oh my God. And he was like, you're so pretty. And then she asked like a real question about like the Jets organization and everything. And he goes, he goes, I could care less about the team struggling. I want to kiss you. Yeah, yeah. He was on. Joe Namath was on a thousand.

That's like, I feel my thing. He was cooked. Watch. Chad Clay impresses me the same thing impresses them what does it mean

to you now when the team is struggling I want to kiss you I couldn't care less about the team struggling I want to kiss you

thanks Joe I'm a huge compliment Joe Namath part of the four decade team she definitely close that out real quick

like all thank you Joe Namath I wish I love jokes I wish men understood how uncomfortable that, like, I wish that y'all would feel how uncomfortable that makes you. We feel it. Cam felt that?

Why you think Cam kicked them up? No, yeah, for sure. But I mean, like, yes, it makes everybody in the room uncomfortable, but how it feels for women like that icky feeling we get, especially when we're trying to be professional because you're not a nigga on the street. We can't just, like, walk away for you or say, fuck you. We're stuck. Like, we can't move. And then people on the internet were like, well, I don't understand why Cam did all that. She was laughing.

and I'm like, oh, y'all... She's uncomfortable. This is why y'all are... So many men are... Do accident... Or what they call accidental rape because you don't know when women are uncomfortable.

They ain't no such thing is... You don't know... What I'm saying is when women don't exactly say no. But their body is screaming no. It's like people don't understand cues, like body language. Like, they don't get it. They have no perception of how uncomfortable what are making somebody at all.

Oh, no. She looked clearly uncomfortable and thinking about her job, thinking about her... her man's probably on the other side of the glass, like thinking about how she's coming across. But yeah, that's an awful situation. People on Twitter were saying,

he did it for the boyfriend. So I saw that too. That Cam did it for the boyfriend? That Cam only did it because her boyfriend was there. And if her boyfriend wasn't there. That was part of Cam said, hey, please stop doing that. Also, her man is here too.

And then he said, my bad. And then he did it again right away. Yeah, people don't know Cam, like his character. Like, he definitely, Cam definitely did that because he understood how uncomfortable she was. Yeah, they don't play about Stap. Now, granted, the boyfriend being there,

he said that, he was like, yo, like, her boyfriend is here. But that was on some shit like, like, yo, like I'm not saying I wouldn't have did it if her boyfriend was here. You could flirt with us. Like, yo, but like, aside from her being uncomfortable,

her boyfriend is here. Like, nigga, chill. Like, you bugging out right now. Let me tell y'all something. First of all, I don't know, I don't watch that show, so I don't know if this show's general consensus is that Stap Baby has a boyfriend.

Let me tell y'all something right now. If nobody knew I had a boyfriend and a nigga was flirt with me and y'all go, yo, her boyfriend here, cut that out. Yo, what y'all? Why? Y'all ain't got to talk. Cut that out.

Like, why y'all telling people my business? Why y'all telling people who I got in the studio? Like, chill the fuck out. Just kick him out. You know what I'm saying? See, because you're still trying to, see, that's your fucking problem. No, no, no, fuck that. Because that's your problem.

That is your problem. See, you still trying to be one foot in the game, won foot out. Sit your hot ass down. Yeah. Just sometimes. Yeah. Carlito's way. Yeah, like, sit a ass.

First of all was understood don't need to be explained. That's number one. Number two. Try to give me these colloquialisms that all these holes out here, you must understood. That's if you ain't tricking. It ain't tricking if you got it. That's the same shit.

That's the same shit, yo. Yo, like, keep some shit out of life. Nah, your boyfriend is here. Now you go home and deal with the other niggas sex. You're like, oh, word. Yeah, now you deal with that. Yeah, damage control. Get your PR person on the line.

And you know what I'm saying? Get out of that. if your boyfriend is in. Oh, my PR, easy. I'd be like, Cam just said that because he wanted him to leave. Easy, that's easy PR. Cam just said that because he wanted it immediately. Wouldn't nobody there for me.

It's easy. That's easy. You see the shit, y'all women would be doing this crazy. No, I'm just saying, if I was a terrible person, that is what I would say. But not me. But you think that would work? Yes. Why do you think that would work?

I see, it will work on certain guys, but it can't work on a guy like myself that has been a side, nigger. Well, me personally, I tell everybody that everything that is said on this podcast, is entertainment. Don't believe anything that's set on this podcast. I say that the moment a nigga slides in my DMs

and he's talking about a clip. Everything set on that podcast is for entertainment. Mm-hmm. Everything. But if a guy is dating you that has been a side dude before, knowingly it was a side dude,

like him and the girl understood like... So he ain't know his worth. Like, yo, yeah, I got a good boyfriend, but you know, we could... So now, in being a side dude, you can pick up on certain things now when you're dating another woman if she's not being honest with you

and telling you exactly what it is. You know, because you know the patterns. You know the things. You can, like, oh, okay.

But why are you using your history of being a piece of shit person with a scarlet A on your chest? Why are you using that against me? Just because you felt like I'm lying. How would I be the piece of shit? I was the side dude, like knowingly like,

okay, I'm not trying to, you know. You're still a piece of shit. He was providing a service. The same way, a girl who sleeps with a nigger that has a girl.

Yeah, but there's a girl. But I didn't have a girlfriend. I was the side dude. I didn't have a girlfriend. Yes, but you knew she was in a relationship. Your AP, you were engaging and cheating in dishonesty. You two are a piece of shit.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, Homeboy. That ain't my business. That's your cross to Barry. Yeah, that ain't my business. That's like what you, I don't got nothing to do with that. But I'm just saying, and being in that position in life before and playing that role, you understand now when you date other women, when it's like they be moving funny. Just because you was laying down next to a liar doesn't mean that everybody you lay next to is a liar.

I'm not saying everybody's a liar. I would never say that. I'm just saying when certain things happen and the woman starts moving a certain way, those that know, no, no. It's like, okay, it's all good. So when you, yo, chill, don't flirt with the marriage. So my boyfriend right here. And then you go home and be like, yo, I don't know, I'm saying, it wasn't a white idea. It wasn't a white idea.

If the dude that you doing that explaining to has ever played the side dude before, he knows your line. Yeah, not exactly That's what I'm trying to say Like he would know I'll pull out this I'm pull out You really think I'm stupid Stupid enough

To let them lead that shit in there If I really had a side nigga I'm come on now bro, you're being stupid You were Ooh Yo, you want to those

Baby Dee I didn't even know You was like Yo baby Dee I didn't not know I knew you wasn't shit But I didn't know I didn't know you was like

The diarrhea though Like that's the That's the wet shit You're the wet like loose shit What? Like and you'll look at me his face like, yo, what you mean? Like, ooh, you one of those? No, no, Ma. Baby D, stop, get out of that. Stop, don't do that. I don't. I'm, Ma. Baby D, do not, do not be

that woman, baby D. Do not be that woman. I'm just saying, we're talking. We're having like, what ifs, hypothetical. Of course, yeah, Baby D is the character on the show. On the show, that's what I he said. That's here. And there's Demaris and there's Baby D. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Baby D and it remains to be seen with Demaris is definitely the person that if her do questions like, yo, who is this guy? She would say, if I was cheating, you would never know who it was. Meanwhile, that's the guy. It's him.

The whole time. Who else would it do? Who the fuck else would have been? Who else would it have been? Like, that is the crazy. When y'all don't talk about that enough as women, like, when y'all get past that point of your life, like, go back and be like, yeah, I was tripping. I ain't gonna lie. I was on bullshit.

Why y'all don't never say when y'all was on bullshit? Like, why y'all just try to delete it like it never happened? No, we say, but to our home girls. No, say it to the nigger that you was calling crazy for thinking that you was cheating on him with that. Why would I do that? He's moved on. He's happy. He has a new family.

Why would I go back and say, yo, by the way, you were right about this? Because now it's in his brain again. He healed. I'm going to let him stay healed. That's maturity. I'm not going to get that off of my chest just to relieve myself of that pressure. Like, you're happy. I want you to stay happy.

Ma, have you ever had a girl accuse you, like, pull up an IG page or bring up a check and be like, if we broke up today, you will go. right to her and in your head you're like well yeah I'd be I'd be single yeah yeah I'm not fucking her but if we broke up today yeah I might say yo I'm single I might date her yes I might date her yeah but I'm saying I think that's more so them speaking to the fact that that's more so them speaking to the fact that you're attracted so you like her that's what it is like that's anybody in a relationship man or woman can find someone else attractive yeah it's okay not actually. Baby, I didn't know. I didn't know it was a deeper, dark, a criminal link, though.

I don't cheat, though. I don't. Pete. All four grandparents are gone, so there's no more, too. I can't use that no more. I got like, one of y'all got to die for me to get that off. Oh, my God. Just go cheat. I don't want to die. Yeah, I don't, don't, don't kill me. I don't be the blood sacrifice. Don't kill me in your story. Just for one night. Go be with that naked, man. I would never do one. If, if you had to die a blood sacrifice for me to cheat, like I would literally make it a fair. I wouldn't just cheat one night off your death. That's crazy.

Off your death, I could get like a whole second family up. Do you think you could ever be 100% faithful? Yeah. That's fucked up. Yo, yes. What do you mean? Are you good?

Yo, niggas is not good. I'm asking. What's you mean? I'm just asking, do you think? Niggis is not good. No, baby. I promise, I wasn't framing it like that. I'm literally asking like,

do you think that you could, One day was like, yo, I'm not, it's completely like clipped. This is my. Yes, I've been in, yes, I've been in faithful relationship. Nika, have you, can you? Yeah. 100%. Yeah.

All right. You see the different sides of this room, though? Damara said, I'd be her blood sacrifice so she could cheat for one night. I said I'd suck a dick to keep her alive. Look at the difference between them. That's because you're gay. Dame, game voice. Yeah, that's because you're gay.

That's not honorable? No. That's not honor up? No. More of the Harlem phrases? Coming out the closet. Come on a man does. He takes care of his family.

Yeah, but come out the closet and say, I'm gay. Just say it. Don't be out here pretending you're not. That's what Dan was saying. He don't like when you pretend that you're not gay. Nothing wrong with being gay, but say you're gay. In that context, I'm saving her life. It's dick or die.

I'm sorry. Okay. So to me, that's what I understand. So to me, that's like the honorable thing to do. The same way Dane was saying, you know, hustle for your last. name, not your first, like you put your family, everything in their name. I think that's the same way I'm keeping Demaris alive. Like, I'm making those sacrifices.

I mean, listen. The fact that you, you know why, why would you bring that back up? Like, I thought that was funny because you just said you'd kill me to go cheat. And I'm trying to keep you alive. But so I'm just saying, like, usually when we say some shit where it's like, damn, like, you know, like, I want you all to know how much I love y'all. So I'm going to say this, but we just never going to talk about it again. Like, you bought the shit back up.

You're curious. Hmm. She's talking to you, Charlemagne. She's talking to you, Charlotte. Yo, she's talking to you. In that scenario, I could just tag Charlemagne in and be like, you, like this is your expertise. This is where you.

Yeah, I could hire you, I could be your boss, do this, and Damaris stays alive. Oh my God. All right, do we have voicemails? Of course, these voicemails are sponsored by Boost. Everybody knows that. You've got mail. A quick question. This is not an ad. I'm not trolling. None of that. My question is, have you ever

enjoyed adult film production so much that you was like, you know what? Let me subscribe and see what else they got. I recently did that with this particular website called Desperate Amateurs. Literally, first time amateurs doing their thing. Doing that thing. Not to sound shady, because I know I'm not the best thing that some women would find attractive. But some of these women look kind of mid and all that. Like, they look like they could look like they have a nine to five at like target or something, but at night they'd be doing anything on, you know, they do some amateur shit, I guess. Tell us my first question, have you subscribed, ever subscribe to a particular website to see

more of their stuff, despite the fact that porn is free. And also, has there ever been something just in general that was like non-sexual? that you were actually attracted to. Like I said, like these women on this website, they're not, they don't look porn star ready or anything. They literally look like your average everyday woman, maybe somebody who lives next door, but they do, they do some amateur shit.

So those are my two questions. I enjoy everything y'all do and keep up the grind. Don't somebody to keep up the ground when you're asking about my porn search history. What was the question? Have you ever subscribed to porn in what porn site? like pay for porn. No, I've never paid for porn. I mean, I bought like DVDs, you know, high school and shit like that.

The Habib Show got me. Which one's that? That's a good one. Peage, you know what I'm saying Pete is laughing. The Habib show? Yeah. They got me. I just feel like paying for the amateur one is kind of sick.

I'm not judging everyone has their things. But if you're going to pay, at least do like the high quality. Yeah, if I'm paying, they got to be in 4K. Yeah. I got to be able to hit a cameraman walking on the car. Mine is amateur too. Mine was amateur and mad ghetto too. They got me.

That's just, pull up the serial killer. But what? But hold of, but why is that shit, though, baby? Do you like, why? It's not my shit, right?

Because I unsubscribe, but. That means it's not your shit anymore. It's not my shit. No, the only reason why they got me to subscribe is because they're good at advertising. This is why clips are important.

Okay. This is why clips are important because they did a six, minute clip and they was getting told in the six minute clip I wanted to see the rest of the minute so I subscribed they do a lot of threesome porn too and that's why as a bisexual

desperate amic like that's just a sick name but I mean you guys know and maybe this goes back to my nah I'm not paying yeah I'm not watching these people but do you think that's his king of like watching undesirable? That's what he said he said oh no

no no this is look like people that some of these people are sex traffic. That's not funny. That's not funny. I'm just saying, I know sex traffic. I don't even try to make a joke. Yeah, like, this is like, what is this?

Yeah, we kink shaming right now. Yeah, I am. I'll be honest. I will never click on any of that shit. Yeah, I'm totally cool. That brochure is terrible. Yeah, if you guys want to know, we can't show it because, obviously. Because it's probably illegal.

Yeah, but go on desperate amateurs and look at the preview. No, don't go on desperate amateurs. To save your time. This shit is terrible. I never want to hear one person say it's hard to get pussy. They just got this type of shit. Yeah, but what type of? You could just go fuck.

You can get some, but it's like, is it your type? Is it what you wanted? That's what I said my sentence. I chose my words very carefully. Yeah. You can get some. You can get pussy. It may not be what you wanted, but you can get some.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's kind of sick. I mean, sir, your thing is your thing. how about it? Desperate amateurs. But paying for that is kind of great. How do you fall? Like, I feel like that would be a free thing.

How do you fall that far down to fucking porn? Like, yeah. To desperate amateur? He clicked that ad for sure. That website is great. Nothing about that is enticing. Like, I don't see nothing on there with like, oh, she's bad. Like, once you sign up for desperate amateurs, how quickly do you think spam calls come

to your phone? Oh, man. I got some spam calls. Somebody called my phone yesterday asking me if I was Muslim. Yo, I got 70 text messages yet, like yesterday. Well, you're in the NLI. No, but that's a fact.

And I, because I speak the language and I was like, this is the wildest spam. Like, I was getting all these weird messages and shit. Yeah, I don't know how to, I guess my name is Muslim. So I thought that's how they, like, figured it out. They just looked up to clays and the yellow books? No, like my name, like my full name. Yeah, it's like Muslim.

So it's like, I thought it was that. And then he was like, are you Muslim? Like, I went to teach. you about the Quran, I was like, no, I'm not Muslim, bro. But I hung up like, how to, where did they get my number from? Desperate measures, now that you pull that up, watch how much you start coming to your shit. That's one of those sites, bro. Desperate amateurs? But you really can just buy, like, people's data. Like, you really can just buy people's data. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's what. And people do that for, like, regular stuff. Like, I have somebody close to me who buys data to know who to

solicit for certain things that he's trying to buy yourself. Like, you can just buy people's data. They got the marketing genius and the spam call shit now because before I would always just ignore them. But now if you answer them and hit nine, they take you off the call list. So now I'm starting to answer every spam call to try to get off their call. Where you answer any all you got to is press nine? It's like the automated like, you've been approved for a $50,000 loan.

And then it's hit nine if you want to be taken off the call list. And it says, give us 24 hours to take off. So now they got me answering every spam. call because this shit is getting insane. Nah, the people that they have calling now, like they don't, it's like remember how it used to be the typical white girl voice? Nah, they had an old black

nigga call me trying to spam me. I said this sounds like somebody grandpa that needed some money. Y'all got doing this shit. Like, it's, I don't know. You start considering it. Yeah. He sounds like a nice guy. Yeah. He sounds like an innocent man. He's trustworthy. Well, yeah, I don't really have much advice for this gentleman.

Get off the website. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Take a break. See how you feel. After two weeks of not. Or ride your bike. Watching. I was having a conversation and I saw this online. Well, I saw it online and it caused me to have a conversation. But I wanted to ask you guys just as we close out, when y'all give us a forehead kiss, right?

What is the male equivalent to that? What can a female do to you that will give you the one? How did we miss that part of the whole Cardi stuff on? Yo, what did he tell her he was there to heal her? Wait, what? How did you get that for the marriage to ask this question? Because she said forehead kiss. So I'm like, okay.

like, Cardi said that Stefan told her he was there to heal her after the relationship she just got out of. I didn't know she said that. Well, all right, if you look at it. She got an album coming out. She got a child. That's all healing things. Cardi did not fall for that.

There's no way. Oh, okay. Cardi B says boyfriend Stefan Diggs told her, let me heal you after she split from a strange husband. That is wild. That's what sparked Mall's brain is Demeris's question. Oh, no, but I don't want to, what you sent him about four-head kiss, though. We'll talk about it on Patreon.

I think that'll be a good Patreon topic. All right. We'll see you on Patreon. I'm Nat Nigger. He's just Ginger. Peace. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. He's much more famous than I am.

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