New Rory & MAL - Episode 408 | Bodega Baddies

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

We waited 7 years. Was it worth it? Demaris gives her flowers to Cardi B for her new album “Am I The Drama”, but what do Rory and Mal think? Jay Electronica released everything on his hard drive. Mal is feelin’ it, and Rory lets us know there’s more on the way. Kanye’s PR team has some work to do after clips from “In Whose Name” went viral on social media. Plus, a caller is going through it while we try our best to prepare him for the closure he needs #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back, top of the top, in a great, great mood. We are recording this on a Monday morning, September 22nd. How's everyone doing? Great. How's everyone's smiling faces? Everyone looks radiant. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you.

Tamaris was doing TikTok dances over the weekend. I know she was coming in here in a great, great move. I am. Oh, you back on TikTok? Mm-hmm. I mean, did she ever leave? No, she left. You can't tick without the talk.

I mean, she left. She makes a tick. She left for a while. She left for a couple months. She wasn't up there dancing to those songs. You was off the talk? I'm not on TikTok like that song. No, she got on TikTok.

She wasn't dancing to those songs for a while. Are you called a while? Wait, somebody got you on TikTok. She got off the TikTok. Nobody got you off TikTok. Ignore them. No, no, no. He said, no, you can't dance.

That's my ass. I'm just happy to see you. That's all. Oh, are you good? I didn't think you would be happy to see me this week. Why? Why would not be happy to see you? I don't know.

I'm always happy to see you. I like when I got a nigga eat his words. What words would I be here? Oh, I'm at the edge of my seat. Yeah. I'm starving. All right. What words are I got to eat?

I got it. I need a napkin? What's up? Yeah. I need some. Niggas was hating on the Bronx baddie The bodega la bodega baddy niggas was hating Who? Me?

When I was hating Last week I said I got a feeling the album It's gonna be dope Did I not say that? I don't remember them words but I Okay, maybe I missed her That's the problem No, no, that's the problem

You never remember That part but you remember When somebody talking shit Now remember me saying that I said y'all got a feeling that Cardi's album's gonna be dope Well, I will start By eating some of my words

I was worried that the rollout felt a little rushed even by Cardi's words, the artwork outside. It was just like, all right, this feels a little weird. What a flawless fucking rollout that they did. I thought the rollout was incredible for the time that they had. Oh, yeah, the rollout was... They smoked it. I mean...

So I eat my words in saying, this feels rushed. I don't really know, like, is she on the same page as the label? They smoked this entire rollout. So I will start by saying, I eat my words. This was Atlantic, Cardi. This was an incredible rollout. You guys did a great, great job. Can I shit on what you're saying, though?

Absolutely. It's songs in there that don't up and why don't need to be on this album. Let's just be real. Like, the album is good. The album is dope without those records. She's already, she's already addressed that those are two of her biggest songs and they need somewhere to live. And I understand that. No, no, no, no, we know.

Okay. We know what that's about. I'm just saying, and listening to the music. I don't, I don't care about numbers and the game. I don't care about that part of it. Just listening to the music. I feel like it was enough good songs on this process. to where those two didn't even need to beat it.

Okay. I know you don't care about the numbers, but it is a stat to go platinum within the first hour, which I need to know. It's, I don't even think. Don't do it. That's like averaging the most triple doubles on Halloween. Who cares about that? Who cares about these 50s? Is it an important game on Halloween?

Nobody cares about is the music good. Yes, this Cardi album is good. I enjoy. Oh, so you know, thank you. I do want to address that because at 12.05, the group chat was going off and niggies was being funny in a group chat. I just left. I hate my notifications and I put my headphones on.

I don't like you doing that because people are actually going to believe you. Who was being funny? I didn't say a word in that group chat. Cut it out. Cut it out. No, we cut it out. Oh, no, no, no, no. We don't have it.

I started listening when it came out. And then when I heard Cardi say ABC, D, EFG, these bitches can't fuck with me, I turned it off. I didn't go back to the album until Sunday. After I heard ABC, the EFG, these bitches can't fuck with me. I was like, all, you know what? Well, that was an ode to Wayne. I was like, I was like, I'm,

I'm cool. I'm gonna go back to Jay Elect for a second. Let me get, you know, my bars. She wants I got my bars, I was like Sunday cleaning. I was like, all right, let me hear what Cardi did. She got some joints in there. There's some joints on that album. I ain't going on. Cardi got some joints in there.

We didn't have to wait seven years. Like, Card didn't have to make me wait seven years for this, but the music is, the music is dope. I can hear parties pin. You know, he can't, you got to throw some hair. Got to sprinkle some hate out there like black people do parties. No, it's not. It's not hate.

I could party ate be up let's let's see right there I don't hold on

let's go let's go let's go let's go let's go let's go I don't think part you wrote

that I don't think party wrote that I can hear I can hear some songs but I don't think party wrote

that we're not doing that I guarantee you party wrote balls I can hear the flow I can hear it like I can almost

hear him his sample track I could almost hear him like laying it down and then her going in Cardi

Cardi put out a video she's since deleted it, but put out a video of her. I don't know whether it was that. What is it? Pretty and petty? Beer, don't even be it. Just stay where you at.

So listen, yo. So I was in bed. Now, mind you, I came out at 12. I went to San Janeiro with Alex. I was drunk, toe up. So I woke up around like 12, 30. I was like, oh shit,

I'm out. Put a headphone in, hungover in my bed, laying down. And I'm just like bumping. I'm listening. Whatever. I'm listening. Marking off with songs.

I like, and then I just hear like, name five be of songs. I said, oh shit. I like sat up in bed. was like not a hidden be a disc like we ain't rolled at out we didn't tell nobody that was coming she just started catching straight okay like i said party is credited for writing on pretty and petty i can hear it and it's okay i don't give i'm not even here for that the music is good but party

got somebody he got that beer kind of crazy you're talking about being kind of crazy you can hear i can hear it i can hear the flow to cadence i i know party's cadence i can hear it like i know that's not cardi that's party i'm sure that cardi you know i said she didn't write on it. I'm not saying she didn't write on it. I'm like, let's clarify. I'm just saying certain bars, I can hear partisan's flow. Like I can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, I hear his flow on the, on the chorus. That, that chorus does give part. I, I can't even lie. I'm halfway through the album just quickly. He's credited it on every single song and I'm, I can hear the pen and it's okay. Which is, it's fine. I don't want anyone to think. The music is,

I don't give up, the music is good. Like, I don't care about the pen. The delivery was dope. The music is good. It's a good album. That's it. It ain't nothing. Platinum in the first day week, I don't give a fuck about that. That's industry shit. I don't care about that. Again, I think, yeah, Party would be good at structuring the song. But we've discussed before, like when Cardi says shit, like I like Balenciagas, the ones that look like socks. That's definitely something Cardi said in the studio and Party just found a way to put it into a cadence.

I'm sure anything she said about Bia that was straight from Cardi's brain and how she felt about Bia. First of all, that shit had me crying and laughing. I love a dish that's like a roasting session. Like, and I don't have anything good as beer, but I love a dish that's a roasting session. Like, you third, how you 32 with acne on your face, you dirty ass bitch going change your pillowcase?

That's, party didn't write that. That's gross shit. Cardi said that change in pillowcase. When she said diarrhea beer, breath so stink, you could smell her for you. How was fun?

That's so. That's funny. That's funny. Now that's party. And that's why beer got smoked with party. Because that ain't Cardi didn't see that. Again, I think that's Cardi saying that shit in the studio. Cardi said,

her breath stink. Party said Diary of Me. That's partisan part of pain. It's okay. We're not tripping about none of that. I'm not, you know what I'm saying? We don't know that to be a fact. Ah, y'all. Y'all niggins is right, man. We really don't. I really, I'm not about taking anything away from party. Cool, cool. But I just think that's how it goes with with Cardi. Good album. Because she's hilarious. Let's not, let's not act like outside of love and hip hop, her on whatever Instagram or what Vine, whatever the fuck was going on at that time. It was her being hilarious. No, on so she's a Bronx You don't think that you gotta be able to snap coming from the Bronx

You don't think Cardi can come up with Diary of Bea because I definitely think she can't Matter of fact, I can see Cardi doing that Before party doing that She said you a big lap dog Be a Bea Labrador Shit was so funny Bro I was in bed and tears like

Randomly and then the smoke for JT The smoke for JT Where she said my nigga might cheat But I don't fuck him in the ass with Dildos My nigga might cheat on me We didn't need to know that But at least I don't fucking looking at. Now, that Cardi wrote that.

Party didn't write that. I hope that's not partisan. I hope he wouldn't have that information. Art is art. Bro. I hope Party wouldn't have that information on his desk. It's a non-fictional. I was like, yo, what the fuck?

But long story short, I really, really enjoy this album. Like, I enjoy that Jenna Jackson Project Principal sample. That should have been a single. I should have. You could have kept that imaginary player joint. That should the pressure principle should have been. That's the single. I'm sure that's going to be the focus in those shoot a video.

That shit was in. That song is so crazy, bro. That song is crazy. We didn't need the whole scene. We didn't need that. I didn't need a magic record. It was a mixed record. You know what crazy is I actually, I like, and I didn't think I would.

I like the imaginary players. I like it way more in the flow of the album. And that really had. I like it. No, I still don't like it. That's fine. But I do like the album, though. That pleasure principle, fucking.

I haven't turned that shit off. Like, when I heard it. What's the, what's the album? What's the song, which? she uh well shit probably the whole album but what's the song was she uh getting at a man of your word oh she went party killed he killed uh offset on that too like why cardy tell why cardy tell party tell party all that about offset stop like you know they had like a sit now they probably had breakfast lunch together and was like yo so what's going on and party he just taking he just the noggleful

he's taking all of that and then he going back to the lab and he went and laid those some of those bars down what i like about men of man of your word is that that Cardi took accountability for the part that she may have played. Yeah, I thought that was nice. The dissolution of her marriage. Like maybe I wasn't the person you needed to be. Maybe I was too focused on my music. I was too focused on this.

I'm sorry. I want the best for you. Like I think that that was very mature of her. Like you can see her growth in the way that she thinks about things. I love that. At 23, I would love my work more than I did she. I get it. I like the accountability on it.

Now, if you're offset, are you mad at party? Yeah, he got to see me Nah, he's at work He got to see me That's not personal That's my He got to see me Don't write

Don't write Don't see that would have been The only Because if I'm offset I'm going to the To the credits on that record Just to see If he's credited for writing on it

He's credited for writing on that So now he got to tell me Which bars he wrote Either way I got an issue if I'm offset I got an issue a party That's how the game go You're in the call

When somebody's shooting at me When I see you And Target going to get deodorant You think it's not lit? Yeah, but I was hired to be in that car. No, I don't get what fuck. It's lit. If I catch you outside of that car that was in when they shot at me, you got to be expecting.

You went along for the ride. What if it's not a car? What if you were the bus driver? I'm not seeing. Like, what if you're just, it came on your car and you just driving? I'm not seeing him being credited on. You don't know his real name, that's well. I do know his real name.

He's not credited on here. On, on, on. On man of your word. Okay. He's not? No. just went to the Apple Music credits yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah so again I might write that whole joint I do think as someone that has obviously talked about her having ghost writers I do think

well not ghost writers credited writers credited writers not not ghost writers um Cardi does like I've talked to people that have worked with her she does write

like no I know she writes like I don't want to do that and this has nothing to do with the pass of this podcast and her or cleaning anything up. She writes. So we need to give her that credit as well in that regard. She could have wrote this entire thing for the man of my word shit. But you would think that because what party did with the Meg the Stallion shit, that's his bag.

Like he went fucking nuts on that. That would be the person I would call it. You need to help me write this disc record to my significant other. Yeah. I call Bryson. Bryson would be good too. I still call Bryson. But yeah, long story short, the album is good.

If I was too, y'all are people say I'm biased, so I'll give a critique just so that people know I am not biased. I genuinely like the album. It could have been shorter for me. And if it was going to be this long. Yeah, whopping up shouldn't have been on it. It's not even no, too. You mean you know it is? You didn't need a last two on the album for a reason.

You didn't need imaginary players album released live edition? No, I didn't. Not even. Not like, for example. So, and I know that it's not, I know that it's a me issue because the songs that I don't like, I've seen online people rant and raven about them. I would have just rather had it replaced with the two singles or the two little teasers that she put out before the album came out, like the like what freestyle. But I know some of those samples might not have been able to get cleared. So that might not.

That might be why they're not on there. But there's a couple that I just don't need. But she has a wide array of fans that she has to satisfy. I don't need the Lizzo record. I don't need the, what's Spanish shorty, Selena Gomez record. I don't need those. But again, she has a fan base that those records are. for.

You ain't need a bodega baddy? I fucking love bodega baddy. How do you love Bodega Baddy but not pick it up? I love Bodega Baddy. You're bugging. I'm bugging. I'm just saying, how do you love Bodega Baddy but not pick it up? Oh my God.

That shit gonna go crazy uptown. I'm gonna knock all the hookah calls over with my ass. I'm gonna go crazy. Yeah, I just didn't. I mean, that might be one of my, I might be my favorite on the project. Bodega Baddy. I love that. That's your favorite song on the whole album?

I view this is what's going to make women have fun at parties. That's how I view. That shit goes crazy. That's going to go nuts. That's how I view this with that type of ear. I also kind of want like Tyler's rap album. Yeah, Tyler was getting her show off. She was getting a little bars off on that shit.

Tyler got her bars off. I was not expecting that. I was hoping it wasn't going to be just the typical Afro beats song. So you could live with this album is what you're saying. What do you mean live? Like you're going to continue to play it and listen to it? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

It's okay to say no. listen to female rap you don't that's not what you listen to on your date is like you know what I'm he's so scared I'm going so scared of what cardy nigga belcalis that's what you're scared of nigga you have seen my my conversations scared no direct no not scared at all it's this nigger scared and that see now I don't like you guys misrepresenting because now people are going to think that and if you go through every message I've ever had from voice note to message no I've never never even. No, I don't want to go. I don't want to go through that. Well, you know, I'm cracking up.

He was there for one of them. I think Rory does like the album, but he's not going to live with it. That's not, y'all don't listen to female rap on a daily baby. Yeah, I like that's what I'm not, I'm not going to live with it. I'm not going to live with it. I was, I had to listen to it. And then she did a good job. She definitely, like, did a good job with the album. I don't think we had to wait seven years for it. But then a lot of it's not. I was going to say, this is not. I was going to say, this is a bunch of joints on here for sure. But again, you know, time is everything and she went through some things and she made it made for you know good content it made for good good lyrics and things like that so she did what she had to do i'm not mad at it good project she didn't she didn't disappoint me i won't say i can't speak for anybody else but she didn't disappoint me what what do you mean by by live it doesn't necessarily have to be a party thing i'm just no i'm just curious what that what that means you're not playing bodega baddie in the

crib by myself yeah no i'm not okay not no way but like i'm driving up to a i'm going upstate to a wedding this weekend with people, there's going to be women in the car. Like, I'll definitely put this on. Go there, everybody? I'll put the whole album on. If I'm in a car with women, of course I would. Me just like chilling, like, all my way to the office in the Holland Tunnel. No, I'm probably not going to throw this on.

You know for setting the vibes with the women, though. I'm not known for this. I'm known for ruining this. Yeah, literally. Literally. If I had to get, for people, because I know. No, Cardi, we need that principle, yo. We need that, we need that video, though.

Yeah. Like, what's up? Like, why you give us an imaginative? That's the single. But, but I can understand. What they did. Why they gave us imaginary play? That's the single.

Well, the single that led the album rollout, well, led the album release was safe by Kaylani, which I do think should have been a single, right? Yeah. It's a great song. It's one of the standouts for the album, the video. They were very cute in the video. Carre was on her acting bag. She got shot and killed.

Like, it's a very interesting. And it's a good video. So I would say that the standouts for, the album for people who are not current fans. Which I think the video smell like, though. Lavender. It's a lot of silk, right? Silk, laven.

Got to be lavender when you see silk. Absolutely. Right? Yes, I know that set smelled great. But I could also see, you know, with the post-promotion being so important now that they may be trying to book Janet for the video. I'm not saying that could happen, but I could see like, all right, let's go with the Kailani one.

We can shoot the video. It'll go out the week of. That buys us some time to try to lock down Janet to make this the following single. Yeah. Because either way, that joint is going to be a focus track for the next few weeks. I will hope so. Like, that record is fire.

If you could get Jan- like even Janet as a cameo. Yeah. That says something. No, you need more than a cameo. That's going to cost you. But if all you could get is a cameo? That's going to cause too much to get Ms. Jackson to move around for a cameo.

You might as well get a fool. You might as well get you might as well get your money. Like that's a lot to get somebody. Janet got to rehearse? Miss Jackson? You got Ms. Jackson twisted. I think anybody would need to rehearse for a major video. This, I think this is now.

Janet Jackson? I think she just showed up to her videos? Well, it's not her video. Cameo. She knows the song. She's heard it before. Yeah, what I'm saying? She got to rehearse nothing.

I think the standouts for the album for people who are not Cardi fans and are not going to sit through an entire Cardi album. If you want the essence of the album, I would listen to safe, man of your word, principal, the Janet sample. The other Janet sample on my back is good as fuck too. That's a slower song. The new Bronx Anthem better than you Featuring Cashgo Band. Bronx Legends is everywhere.

I'm just putting that out there for y'all. Oh yeah, I forgot about better than you. Take the four train uptown, come see some of the legends. It's all good. Pretty and Petty, which is the Bia Diss and Erd Time. Err Time should have come out in the summer. I'm so sad that we missed that. That was a summer record.

Like, that song goes fucking crazy. But yeah, good job, Cardi. I'm so fucking proud of you and so happy. You did a great job. Cardi! You did a great job. Now, Cardi, do me a face. I even curse Rory out some more in the DMs, please.

Just because I love to see him panicking when he come in here, when he think the brims is coming together. I hate, I'm fine for the podcast to give this narrative. Yeah, that's what happened. This nigga's scared about Galiz. I mean, there's less scary. Those could be some famous last words. That's all I'm saying.

Why? All right, try. Me? What am I trying? Okay. I don't got beef. Her reach is, is, far.

Mine's this too. You want to see? Look, look when I'm sitting there. Look at my arm is that. See, more reach. Yeah. Roy, you got a bitch-ass arm's spin. Jesus Christ.

What the fuck did I do today? It's shit on Rory Day. Everybody's celebrating it. Yeah. Yeah. Shit on Rory Day. Did Maud lift his leg. Y'all are so annoying.

Cardi would like it better that way. What? Yeah. For her album. review it would just be shit on Roy Day. Yeah. So, you know, I'm here for it. Well, yes, I hope everyone lives with it.

I hope Janet is in the video. Yeah, I need that video. I like that record a lot. I ain't going to lie. That's probably my favorite record on album. This is definitely my favorite. Yeah. So, J. Electrona dropped two.

Music was dropping. Jay Elect. Yo, listen, man. How many more is dropping, though? I got out to shower. Another one was out. I was like, all, fan. Four projects in three days.

How many are coming? Okay, well, it was four in three days. The first one was Act II, which was out. Incredible. Ten years ago, was never on DSP. So for the quote-unquote rollout, we put out Act II the day before. That made sense. But we put out three projects in two days, and I have not slept since Thursday.

Mm-hmm. I mean, it's not like I'm giving anything away because he said it on the first project, Leaflets. He gave hold 19 albums. Yeah. It's going to be a long month for me. Yeah. I'm just happy. I had text him.

I just said, thank you because I know how he works. I know that, you know, he's very meticulous, very maniacal, you know, when it comes to his art and his music,

and a lot of things he doesn't put out. But I was happy that he actually, you said it was going to happen, but I was actually glad to see it actually happen. And we get some new music from Jay Electronica. Written testimony, leaflets, incredible.

The other, what is it, written testimony two? No, act two is the one that he put out first, right? Yes, act two was from you. Patent of nobility to turn. A written testimony, power at the rate of my dreams. That came out. And then last night, written testimony, Mars, the inhabited planet. Right.

I mean, a lot of this is going to be his story to tell. I do have, I have so much to say right now, but I'm going to chill, like, of all the war stories of the last few days. Yeah. But a lot of the stuff that we worked on the last few years actually hasn't been put out yet. What I will say, the three projects that came out outside of like one or two records that we just needed to put on DSPs were done in the last four days. Yeah. Everything was done in real time. With the rest of these projects, yeah, you'll get some stuff that we've been working on for a couple years.

But all of this was done in the last three days. Yeah. Like literally, all of it. No, you can hear it. Some people are like, oh, it's a hard drive dump. And it's like, nah, this shit is right now currently. But I like it, though. Like some of the bars, some of the verses, I like the fact that, you know, he was in it kind of mumbling to himself.

And then he go back into his bars. Like, I don't know. That's been his style for a little while. But I like that type of constructing of bars and verses and things like that. Obviously, anybody that knows he does things on his own accord. And when he's ready to, I'm sure you know a thing to. about that, Roy. Just a little bit. But I was happy to hear the music. It sounds great. The message is powerful. Probably the first artist that actually announced a call of action on the album. I thought

that was Jay-elect. That's who he is. And again, why I'm saying these things were done in real time. He's reading people's tweets of the project that just came out on it, like while he's recording the next one. Yeah. So it's creating like a piece in time. It's a very Jay-elect way of creating and recording and releasing music. Only Jay-Alet could record and release the way he is. I'm just happy to see that y'all find you actually got it out. Yeah. No, that's a task in itself, but to actually get it out and get the message out. If you haven't listened to any of it, do yourself a favor. Please listen to all of the albums, all of the projects. The message is powerful. The skill set is incredible. If you know Jay-elect, you know that he's always going to be one of the

greatest emcees that you'll probably listen to, but the music is actually really great. And I look forward to coming on this podcast once we're done with everything and telling the insane stories of putting this together. Yeah. Just right now while we're in the middle of it, it's still happening. It's not the time. And it's Jay's story to tell, but I sent a photo of, did I put it in the recording chat of me and Cruz on an Ivy in a motel room?

No. Okay. Well, that was from this weekend. Yeah. Gotta, got to stay hydrated. No sleep? None. No sleep.

I felt like I was back on line. Matter of fact, when I was allegedly pledging Kappa, which means I just paid and took a test, I think I slept more when I was pledging than I have in the last week. But I'm just super happy that this stuff is coming out. You know, some of the calls I got over the weekend from people that have been with Jay for, you know, 20 years. And they were like, you know, the fact that you guys as a team were able to just put something out says more than that. than anything. I want to do 19. So I'm excited. I mean, I also understand too, I'd have much time

to like look at reviews and shit like that because everything was happening in the moment. But I know it's an acquired taste, but again, the message is important. I encourage people to listen to it with an open ear. If it's not just shit, I get it. But I think a lot of people, which I've done too, like, and Jay's not a lyrical miracle rapper by any means. But some people go into like, that's not my type of shit. He can be. For sure. But not as, Lyrical Mercos people think. Yeah, based off, I guess, the perception of what his beliefs are, they think the whole album is just going to be just talk that they're not going to understand.

And it's not the case. Like, listen to it with the open ear. I think you would enjoy it. So, I mean, see you guys in a couple hours. Yeah. Another drop on the way. Criticism? For sure.

Did he on the intro? Okay. Did he on the intro? Yes. Did he was on the intro, the first record. Abercadabra off leaflets, which was the first official one outside of Act 2 that we dropped. Yeah, Diddy starts the amazing conductor produced record.

I mean, it's not my project. Not your project. Not your call. It's Jay's call at the end of the day. I can tell one story. Jay is very aware of how I feel about Puff. Puff is very aware about how I feel about Puff via FaceTime. That's why I'm laughing when you said I'm scared of Cardi.

I was definitely more scared when I, when I had to get confronted on that. And this was before even the tape had came out, the really unfortunate tape with Cassie. You know, I felt like we were the only podcast that was on her side. And I had a conversation on FaceTime. Puff knows how I feel.

Jay knows how I feel. It's Jay's project. And that is what it is. Like my stance was made. It's never going to be my call on that type of thing. Yeah. It's him. So, you know, I can disagree.

I hit you. We spoke about it. I expressed my, my, My, my POV on starting the album and hearing that intro. Like, you know, but I understand his relationship with Jay, you know, and if you know Jay, he's a very, his heart is big. And, you know, he just has different beliefs than most people and has a different heart. So, you know, I understand and respect it, but me and Rory spoke, I expressed my, I won't do it here, but I expressed my, my P-O-V on that whole thing. You know what I'm saying?

so yeah and it doesn't Rory didn't he does not shine away from it he no not we echo the same type of sentiments when it comes to that but no but I set my piece on it straight straight to the man on the intro yeah but but that's why I said I because I don't want anybody to accuse you guys of avoiding that topic

because I know your point of view but other people might not and that is why I wouldn't let you skip over it here all right here's my my final thing on it Jay knows my stance, Puff knows my stance, I have been on record

on this podcast of my stance that has not changed whatsoever. You guys know my stance. After that, there's not much more I can control.

At that point, it's like, everybody that is important to me and knows where I stand on this old thing, it also is not my... It's not your call. If this was my album,

and I did that, now you guys can look at me like, whatever, but... I thought it'd be different. I thought you were different. And also, again, I'm not here. to even knock Jay on it,

but he has a different perspective on that situation that furthers mine because he lived with them. And it doesn't excuse my thoughts on it, but he has a different perspective, which I respect. Men can have disagreements. Absolutely. I know his perspective.

So that also doesn't make it right because I have my stance on it. I have a bit more understanding on the situation than than maybe most when it comes to Jay and his relationship with Cassie and with Puff.

But, I mean... Totally understand. I was scared that that was going to overshadow like everything. And of course, of course, I saw a lot of the headlines. Puff addresses like this whole thing, but I don't think it overshadowed

all the music, thank God. No, no, no. The music is powerful. I just, I wasn't expecting that when I first started listening to the album. Well, I mean, maybe sometimes that's also

the point no that 100% and and then again the the the situation at hand the artist that we're talking about just the the situation dynamic is totally different so I get that part of it but the music is incredible the message is powerful um you know I love just a an orthodox way of dropping it releasing it I love everything about this everything you know this is J Alec it's against all rules it's against the norm it's outside of you know what you probably are guessing or what you think, it's exciting, man. It's exciting to see artists do things like this to go against the grain and just do things based on how they feel and, you know, what they're going through and things like that.

Like, I like that type of shit. Like, that's what I think art is supposed to do. Yeah. And I mean, when we got to the DSP worlds, things got so structured. And I do like what our whole team is doing here as far as, all right, that's done. The mix don't have to be to what we think. It should be DSP related. This is back to blog error shit.

I like this. It's going out. Like, let's just flood as much as we possibly can because they took that opportunity away from us. Like how we used to love mixtapes, how we used to just love Lucy's. All of that is gone. And Jay, I think, is in a unique position

being the unicorn and the mystique he has that's over here. Not a lot of artists have. And he doesn't give a fuck about anyone saying, you can't go do this. So he's the only one, I think, that can drop 19 albums in a month of just shit that I like this now. This could go out. That could have happened in 2009, but not now. That's against the grain on everything.

So him bringing that back to me is from an era that I love that streaming took away. If half this shit gets taken down, so be it. We'll find another way to put it out. We'll put it up on SoundCloud, then it gets taken down. We'll just keep doing this shit over and over because this is. was the era that all of us like really became adults in and jay became an artist in like that's what he knows he grew up on all the 90s guys that were doing albums but when it was time for him to come out it's like i'm figuring out the internet yeah which was kind of a rebel thing at that time of being

on the blogs releasing stuff it was against the grain with the industry so let's redo it let's do it again with streaming same way we went against iTunes let's go against streaming on streaming yeah i was i was reminded by the rules whatsoever i was reminded how hard it is to really listen to music and the music now this week because I was trying to listen to all of the J-drops and as well as, you know, the Cardia album. It's these phones, man. It's so hard to consume music through your phone. Yeah.

Like, because you do everything. If somebody calls you, you know what I mean? It's like, take this call. Even if you don't take the call, it interrupted to listen. Somebody texts you. Now you're in this conversation. It's like everything is like, it's hard. It was much easier to consume music when.

the music was away from the phone whether it was CD whether it was vinyl or cassette it was just a different attachment a different connection you had to the music because it was just that now when you try to listen to music and albums from your phone you get distracted so easily

and you forget you was even listening to this album because now you get it's a phone call I had to take I'm on the phone for 40 minutes I forgot I was listening to the album and now I'm in a whole different I don't even know if I'm going back to the album until later on or tomorrow

It's very hard to consume music through your phone. I've even found myself saying out loud to people like, hey, let's just put something on Netflix that I will be fine in the background. Something I can follow that's simple in a dock like, oh, wait, what I miss? All right, cool. And I'm just backed on my phone, which is not a good way to consume anything. I'm like purposely trying to find background noise for things while I'm on my phone doing shit. I put YouTube on the TV and listen to albums.

Like, just something that's going to separate it from the, phone. You know what I'm saying? Like I need to have it. Like, it's like, okay, nothing is going to interrupt this listen right here. Like, it's not, the music is not going to stop. I'm listening to it all the way through. It's just a different connection you have with music when I think it's, for me personally, when it's not on my phone. Um, Demaris, so is Jay-elect, to you, like, Cardi is to us. We're like, yeah, we'll listen to it, but we're not, wasn't made for us. Like, we're not in the crib. Like, the way you feel about bodega baddies, that's how I feel about who killed Michael Jackson. Yeah.

But that's a song on my album Yeah Like I turn up to that Like I hear that I just thought You know what I mean Like it's lit You feel what I'm saying

Like you shake You shake I ain't see I didn't say that But you said that how I feel I'm telling you how I feel Yeah but I didn't say how you move I didn't say that See how words are important

I never said I never said I never said that You could though It's a hard beat You could do a lot of things I'm just saying malls not yet You know I'm saying A woman could shake ass To that record

Oh yeah I mean she's got this in there for Like it could do it How did you feel about Jay putting Quentin Miller on that record? I loved it. I did too. I loved it.

It wasn't expected, but I love what Quentin did with his verse. And I was happy to see somebody like Jay, you know, open up a verse for Quentin because we know, obviously we know how talented Quentin is as a writer and as a rapper as an artist, period, songwriter. So to see him next to Jay Alec and going to Jay's world and, you know, rap about what he was rapping about. It was dope to see that. That wasn't a, you know, a feature that I was expecting or even thought about, but when I saw it, I was happy that it happened. Yeah, for sure. And even someone like the tweets that I did see that made me smile, Jay Electronica got me

research in the Battle of Los Angeles in 1942. Dock, tell me why that shit actually happened. That's the point of the album. That's the point of music. A lot of things people don't know. Some of the shit isn't saying conspiracies. Sometimes you look it up and it's like, oh, no, no, This is a fact. Wait, you're telling me, police and army shot 14,000 rounds at something in the sky. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

And that's just never taught. Never taught. That's not a YouTube rabbit hole. That just happened. That's why an artist like Jay is important. You know what I mean? It's going to teach you something. But obviously, the flow and everything is still, he's still going to outwrap some of your shit, most of your favorite rappers.

But at the same time, he's dedicated. cater to the message. And that's what's important about Jay and I appreciate that. Yeah. And I mean, if for the people that are into, I'm not saying conspiracy stuff or just, just Easter eggs in certain parts of records, research every single title that is on these projects. If you see most of the time, the title has nothing to do with the record. It's something that he is encouraging you to go research yourself. And it's not a conspiracy. Can this almost tell us more? Like I was like, okay. That's what he had with it. I bet. Jay. Tell us more, Candace.

Let's hear it. Yeah. I liked it. You know, once I saw the titles, I was like, okay. I know what Jay doing. No, there was even stuff that I had to, when I was typing out, you know, the track list when he was coming up with the ideas for it. Some of it, because, you know, him and I talk every day. So I get a lot of this information for the last four years.

There was stuff I even had to research. And I was like, oh, shit. I had no idea about the, uh, the Japan Airlines 1628. That just research. It's one of my favorite songs, too. Yeah, that shit was crazy. That record is hard. If you look into what blood LaBelle is, like, that shit is crazy.

That's probably one of my favorite verses he's ever done. There's just a lot of shit on here, and I'm exhausted, proud, happy, and cannot wait for more of the music to come out. Because this is, I don't know, just a once-in-a-lifetime type of thing that we get to experience this for this month. Well, salute to y'all, salute to the team, salute to Jay. Yeah, you got to getting it done, getting it out. You got to come to HQ and you got to know what it smelled like. Mentally, I got to.

Yeah. Mentally, I got to, you know what I'm saying? I got to prepare for that. You know what I'm saying? I obviously won't say where we're at or what type of place it is. But it's not a place you would expect anyone to be at. And I'm walking out and somebody was like, Roy, the fuck are you doing here? Yeah.

And then I could see his mind start to tick. And he said, wait, I thought I just saw Jay Electronica. Yeah. What are you doing here? Hookers. Hookers. Nothing but hookers. Hookers and music.

Hookers. But yeah, other than that, that was really my weekend. It was intense. Shout out to Cruz. Shout out to Kia. Shout out to my mom. I've been an absent father for a week. Yes.

Piece of shit. Yeah, for sure. I was running home trying to like, hey, Mara. And then she started getting used to, which made me feel even worse. Like, bye, daddy. I was like, fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

but you know I brought her by because we had a couple different spots outside of where we were recording I brought her by for a second just so she could see the chaos but it's not a place for a child hmm not a place for children not a place for adults not for any sane functioning adult I can guarantee you out of the four spots that we have in here three out of four the murder definitely happened like without question if you started to like do the black light shit, you're definitely finding DNA in blood. Yeah. Like without question.

But, you know. It's all right, though. The message has to be released. That's all. It don't matter where it's from. Just get it out. Yeah. Shout out to Jay Electronica.

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That's the headline I saw And with the bootleg I saw Yeah can you look that up I don't know if it's in theaters only I don't think it's like at the AMC in Times Square But select theaters Yeah And the version I saw was somebody in the theater

filming it like the old Canal Street DVD tape type of thing I didn't know that was just in there That's Actually I might go see it now Now that I know it's in theaters I might give me an excuse to go to the movies

it's i mean i guess it's what you think it is i don't think there was anything on there that gave me a surprise to conge because you know we've seen so many clips and different sides of his personality and i don't really know if it gave too much context to it but it did show conier in his own element more than we've ever seen um even more than the genius documentary The genius documentary showed us Kanye West in the beginning of his career in his own environment. This is post meltdown, quote unquote. Yeah. This is Kardashian era type.

This is Calabasas, Yeh into Wyoming, yay. Okay. In the same type of context. You're seeing him in his own environment in a very genuine way because sometimes you be like, is Kanye doing this for paparazzi? like even I love when Cameron was like Kanye's not crazy I just saw him he's fine I walked in there at the most sane human being like he's fucking with you this showed it in a different light I'm not saying it gave context I don't even know if

Kanye is fully behind this entire thing but I guess I will applaud him by saying he didn't shy away or try to make himself look any better or add context to things but it's it's Kanye West in a very Paul's raw form. I really enjoyed the doc. There's a difference between enjoying the doc and then enjoying the person that's the lead of the doc. Because there's a lot of moments where

he is a very destructive not only to himself, but to the people around him. And I know we joke about what I had said about game and this and that, but Kanye has been diagnosed before, but we don't know what's accurate and what's not. You see that side. of him for sure.

So wait, he's not a part of this documentary at all. He has to. Should we even be supporting this? Because I'm ready to go to the theater and watch it. But if he's not a... But if he's not a... Was, I mean, was he fully behind that as well? Because I remember...

And, you know, Kanye would never go back on his word. I remember him saying something bad about Coody and them about that. Even though he's in the doc saying, you, I got my man here that's been with me for 20 years and we want to sell this doc. But I remember Kanye being upset when that came out. So I don't know. Okay. Judging off what happened with genius,

I don't know if Kanye pulled out, Paul's pulled out of this entire thing. Because the director, I think it was yes, Jules, I was saying, that he has been around following Kanye forever. I don't know if this was something he took upon himself after he stopped working with Kanye, the same way, you know, creative control did. But I don't know, it's a lot. Where the genius one has redemption

and like a real human aspect of it. This one has chaos. It makes you uncomfortable. It's a little bit scary. It gives you a lot of empathy for people that are around him. And in some degrees, empathy for him as well. I'm not saying he's a terrible person, but he is very much destructive on purpose, it feels like.

Like he's very lucid in what he's doing. I don't think he's having complete freakouts and melancholy. down's where he doesn't know what he's doing. I think he's very, very lucid in what he's doing. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's a lot. But then again, I mean, yeah, Kanye screaming at Chris Jenner. I don't like co-sign how he did all that, but if you have a real American family, if they put a camera in your

fucking house, would it be much different? Yeah, I saw that clip of him. It's wrong. It's just a clip, so you kind of look at it like, well, I looked at it like, well, I looked I need more context. Like, what was this conversation? Why is Kanye screaming at Chris Jenner like this? But yeah, that's the end.

I saw obviously the Michael Chee clip at SNL. When I Kanye, Kanye had hosted SNL at that time, right? Yeah, that was the time when he said they bullied me for the red hat in that entire thing. Yeah. But, I mean, I respected what Michael Che was saying at that time. Because there's only one black comedian when you're going on your rant. He was like, you wasn't talking about Leslie. like who was you was talking about me like I think he had every right to do what he did

no absolutely absolutely and if you feel like somebody disrespected you and obviously you didn't have the opportunity to defend yourself or something like that then especially if you feel like you had a like a like a relationship with the person yeah you'd be like yo like you know I didn't see anything wrong with Michael chair I'm not going to say I don't like the word press because press makes it feel like I hate that too I hate that too I hate that Yeah, like don't. We had a conversation. Yeah, it's a conversation.

Michael Chey didn't press Kanye West. He had a conversation. He approached him about something he said that he didn't like. It's not a, we don't have to say press. You know, it's not like he threatened to put hands on Kanye if he said it again. Like, that's a press. Like, yo, say, keep my name out your fucking mind. That's a press.

But Michael Chey was just like, yo, that's fucked up, man. Like, I love you. Like, why would you, you know, put me out there like that or say that about, you know, me? and, you know, it's like I can't even do nothing about it. I got to kind of just eat that. Like, that's fucked up. So I understood as a man.

That's just man's shit. As a man, you know, he's a pro semate that he knows he has a relation with that he thought was cool with him and, you know, just expressed that he didn't like something he said, but I didn't see anything wrong with that. This was the very frustrating. Well, actually, I'm going to say that because there's been a lot of frustrating Kanye West Ereth. This one was especially frustrating because this was around the time when he started with the MAGA stuff and he was all about having dialogue.

And then when someone like Van Lathen would try to have dialogue with him or somebody like Michael Che would try to have dialogue with him everything he said before that he would just go, but I love you. No, no, no. I'm replying to everything you just said in a very common... I love you too. This doesn't take the love of way.

Yeah. But what you just said was crazy. I'm replying to it. You keep saying you want to have dialogue, that's our fucking problem. And then anytime I retort any point you have to say, you be like, but I love you. it's like all right so you're just being a hypocrite on this dialogue thing that you want to keep having no you want to spew out insane headlines that you've read from some of your republican friends and then when somebody is just like what would you mean by that i don't think it works that way you go wait but i love you yeah yeah what are we doing here like you can't even have a conversation with somebody like that and some people are also very bad at having conversation that they deem confrontational like you ever had a conversation with somebody who you could only have a deep conversation with through texie because if you're talking to them, their response time, like in text, it's almost like they're either nervous or they're not quick enough on your feet.

Like, it gives you don't know how to defend your points without time. I think people have people that have a hard time having conversations that can be deemed confrontational. I think it's most times because they know either they're wrong or they're lying. Yeah, I can see that. Like if you have a problem with having a conversation about something that, you know, may come across as kind of like you're confronting and. issue because that's all it is. When they say confrontational, it's just I'm just confronting the issue at hand. People that have a hard time with that is they're either lying or, you know, they know they were wrong and can't admit that they're wrong. Yeah. And I can see that being Kanye a lot.

Like, you know, he knows he was in the moment. He probably doesn't mean any harm. But then as Michael Che is saying it, he's hearing it back like, yeah, that might have been unnecessary. Like, I didn't have to put that out there like that. But I do love you. And it's like, I get that part, but you still, this was live television. Like, I work here. Yeah, like you said some crazy shit and it's just like, real now I got to deal with that. You leave this studio and don't

have to ever come back. I have to be back here like this in a few days. Like, these people have to see me again. But that was the first Kanye era where I felt like he jumped out the window without fully understanding or believing what he said. Like, if you go to any interviews, whether it was

Zane Lowe and he's talking about Polaroids and cameras and Lady Gaga and his music and the industry, Kanye will have crazy dialogue arguments with anyone. His Breakfast Club interview, everything he said at that point is really what happened for the next 10 years when they were trying to debate him on it. When he knows what he's talking about, Kanye is great. This was the first time when he linked up with like Candice and Nick Fuentes. I'm not saying he didn't believe what Candice was saying.

He was just not well researched on anything. So the only thing he had was what Candice said as a talk. talking head at one point. So when he would get someone to say something back, he wouldn't have a retort because he didn't research it. That's why you get that TMZ shit when Van says that and he's just like, yo, I love you, bro. Let me give you a hug. And Candice keeps stepping in to answer the questions because Kanye was not well read or well versed on any of those points. They were just controversial. So he said that. That's to me is where the Kanye really went left. And it wasn't because it was a Republican thing. It was because he didn't know what the fuck he was

talking about. Every time before that, whether you agreed with him or not, he knew what he was talking about. He was passion. He actually believed that shit. This time he's saying shit on SNL and has no idea what he's talking about. And Michael Che is like, I'm trying to have a conversation. Kanye can't have a conversation on that because he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Later on, he did start to research that shit more and form a real opinion. But at this time, he was hoping Candace would step in and just, yeah, what she said. You just are doing this because it's controversial. But I don't know how I feel about supporting this now going to the movies and paying to see it.

If you don't know he's involved, I thought niggins weren't supporting Kanye West anymore. I thought that that was like the thing like... No, you're bugging. I'm still waiting for my Hitler ones, dude. I paid $25 from Junctions. Fall is his. First day of fall. What's up? I need my boots. Yeah, what you do? You want to go to the theaters in the booth? Yeah, I want to go to the seat, go to the dock with the Hitler ones on. What's up with you? Send me my shit.

Yeah, but I said, I'm not going to say I don't support Kanye because he's an artist and obviously he releases things. We're going to check it out. We're going to see what he he has to, you know, say or what he's giving us. So I guess that's supporting him. I'm just saying if this is a doc that he didn't want to say he didn't want this to come out, he didn't, he doesn't, I don't know how I feel about paying to go to the theater to see it. See, I feel like that would be in that, that's you like being supportive of Kanye. Like if Kanye was a good person, then I would maybe consider not spending my money for someone else to, you know, get money off his back, like not supporting that person.

You don't think Kain is a good person? But now, I don't know him personally. So let me say that. From what I've seen, what I've been presented, the information that I have, no. And I, so I don't care about somebody, like, exploiting him. And if it's entertaining to me, I'll go see it. Like, that's just me, be honest. He doesn't, I've seen him hop on the backs of other people's tragedy just because he knew

that people were going to disagree about certain things and try to make money off. and be exploitive of it. So I don't care. I respect that. Yeah. I mean, judging by what Wikipedia has, as far as producers, director,

this is just starring Kanye West. Yeah. Directed by Nico, produced by Nico, a bunch of other names. Edd by Nico. Yeah, this. Yeah, Kanye's not happy with this. I want to see those text messages.

He cursing somebody. But, I mean, see, that's where you get in, trouble when you're an artist that just has someone following you around with a camera. They own it. Because we saw it with like choke, no joke.

If you have someone, you need to hire them every time they follow you. If you pay them, that's your footage now. I'm paying you to film me. I own that. This is your fee to shoot it. If they're just walking around with a camera now, they own that shit. You don't think how are you saying them? Oh, I don't know.

But I, if he had, if he could easily put this out this way, I can't see there was a place that there was payment or paperwork. Kanye had to be paying them. 3,000 hours of footage. Kanye had to be. For you to have 3,000 hours of footage on somebody, I would guess that that artist is. Then there needs to be a clear contract that I'm paying you and that I own whatever you

shoot. Or just buy the camera. Right? It's not even about the camera. You could buy the camera, the memory car with me, though. Yeah. Yeah, but if I own the camera and all of the shit with it, that's. That's my shit, no?

True. Yeah. True. But a lot of times... You can't just take that footage from shit that I... That's mine. Like, you know what I'm saying? You can't just take that footage because you recorded it.

I own the camera. I own the hard driver. I own all of that shit. Like, you can't just take that. So I don't know. This is... Again, I'm pretty sure Kanye is on somebody's email or fucking text messages going crazy. I mean, we got Kanye, we got Kanye, Doc, and Jay-elect both on September 19th.

I saw TikTok saying that Tuesday, the Rapture. was coming. I mean, get your, get your affairs in order, man. Ticot's in the rapids. Kanye West is a whole documentary out. Jay, like, is dropping albums. The end is near. Well, call Jay. He wouldn't know. It's true. He know what time. He knows what time the ship's get here. Listen, man. Last time he dropped the album, COVID happened the next time. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it's right on par. It's right on par. Let's see what fucking world tragedy is coming Tuesday. Did you see that? TikTok trend, DeMere specifically, because you're on there a lot, that the rapture is coming

shit as we know as you're listening to this as you're hearing this matter of fact you may not have listened to this because you're in heaven unless they're playing this on the ship I think I've heard something about Christian talk was saying

that the rapture is coming yeah on Tuesday right yeah Christian talk yeah okay there was there was Christians selling their cars which I didn't fully understand if the rap like you could just hold your car

for a day like do you have plans that you sell it and then for the next three hours like I'm gonna go crazy. I'm gonna pay your rent. Like, if the raptors go, why are you even care? Why are you filling your cupboards with food? Oh my God.

They had, um, some I think were fake, but there were real ones that weren't making fun of the rapture Tuesday. That were giving instructions on what to do once, once you were gathered by the light. They were like, if you're scared of heights, don't look down. At any point, do not try to grab around you in the rapture because you don't want to put your hand outside of like whatever the beam of light that brings you. you up. They were like, don't try to do any flips. But to me, if I start going up this way, which I'm probably not probably going down, I would try to do like a few flips. That'd be kind of fun. If somebody told you that, okay, is it insensitive? Let me, let me, come on, baby, D, chill. Why are you? I'm trying to have a real conversation with you. No, you're not there.

I am. Just listen. Is it insensitive if somebody is telling you that they're contemplating suicide, right? But they tell you like, yo, I got to save up, I got to pay my rent, and I got to buy the gun. And I'm sitting there looking at them like... Now, that's probably why they won't kill themselves.

Look what they got to do. That's hard work. First of all, I'm not trying to be insensitive either. But I'm not paying my rent if I'm killing myself. Welcome to the party, baby. That's all I'm trying to...

So now somebody's telling you, looking at them like, what? Like, what are you talking about? Like, you got to pay your rent. not saving up to buy the gun like I'm going to steal the gun that's what's funny to me like you're about to kill yourself like putting your head down buckling down focusing getting your responsibility together just to kill yourself like that's like you're not like

you know I really I want my my kid to go to private school I just got to focus lock in the next two years I'm just doing this but like to do that to get like a 38 they would have said like I'm paying my mortgage off so my family got somewhere to live that makes sense but like paying right like you know if i'm so so it's not insensitive if i look at them like yo what yeah yes all right cool if you want to kill yourself uh if you feel like you're going to pass away soon go to a loan shark get some money buy what you want there's so many and then doing this so many where was where does one find a loan shark asking for i'm not snitchin but like hypothetically like if you need a loan shark like where would you go because i could never find him uh do you know

where people gamble. Okay. That would be a good start. Yeah. If you know somebody that's heavily into gambling, they may be your six degrees of separation

to get to a possible. They know a guy. Okay. Because they've needed him before. Yeah. Yeah, they know a guy. They know a guy and owe a guy. Yeah.

They know a guy and oh a guy. For sure. And the guy's looking for them. But he's probably a terrible reference. Yeah. Like if he co-signed you, I know the loan shark and be like, yeah, all right.

Yeah, like he might not give you nothing. But yeah. Okay. Why, you need a loan shark? I'll be a loan shark. So what makes them the shark? What's like, what's the shark part? You don't want to find out.

What's kind of fucked up though with loan sharking? Like, obviously loan sharking is not always for gambling, but it is a major part of it. Now that gambling is illegal, insert ad, because we love hard rock. Now that gambling is legal and weed is legal, wouldn't loan sharking start to follow logically? Obviously, it's what the banks do. so it would never be legal. But how the fuck is gambling legal now and loan trucking? Because they can't pay taxes on it.

I can't do a loan and pay some taxes on it. I'll cut in J.P. Morgan. No, if you could get half my Vig, I don't know. No, it's a loan shock. If I'm lending you money and you got to, obviously, you got to give me back with interest on it. They do it at a better rate than the banks. And you don't need to get the whole background, of course.

But I know why it's illegal. but I'm saying I understood why gambling was illegal. Right. I understood when I was. You know why it's legal now? Tax. Because a hard rock is amazing. Exactly.

Exactly. All right. Well, shit. Tax my Vig. But no, there's also stuff that comes with loan sharking, right? That would not be legal in any way, shape, or form. Like, that's the part of the, like, I can run from Chase Morgan.

Like, I can run for life, right? You can't run, but you can't hide. Yeah. Yeah, I can't hide. Same thing with the loan show. You can run, but you can't hide. Nah. If I owe, if I owe on my mortgage to a bank and they're doing a foreclosure,

I'd rather take an ass whoop and buy me another week. For sure. Absolutely. I would too. Definitely. If that'll buy me another week, you sending a message, break my legs, I will wheelchair my ass to go get your money. Like, J.P. Morgan will take my life away.

I'll never be able to get another loan. My credit will be fucked. I can't even get a bank account. Yeah, you definitely won't own a bank. That's, you're, that's killing somebody while they're alive. when the bank takes it. That's a slow death right there. Just beat me up.

I got you. I just need two more weeks. You can punch me in the face every morning. That's my payment. I'm going to get you your money. Just don't ruin my life. Punch me in my face every morning. Yeah, come on, come on.

Let's get over. I got to catch a train. I'm on my way to work. This eye's about to shut. Could you at least... To get your money, I need at least one eye open. Yeah, I can't get your money if I can't see, sir. Yeah.

Leave me one eye. But no, I mean, I hope knock on wood, I never have to go to a lone shark. Because that's, you fucking yourself over. What's the form of torture you guys are most afraid of? Like, when you, like, are afraid of getting torture. Like, what's the form of torture you're most afraid of? Like, I'm afraid of getting punched in my nose and of having my fingernails ripped out. Oof, yeah, finger-thes-you're afraid of getting punched in your nose.

In my nose. I've been punched in my face plenty. I've been punched in my nose. That's why I know to be afraid of it. Being punched directly, square dead in your nose. That shit is it hurt. I'm not afraid. I wouldn't say I'm afraid of it. That's not. That's one of my biggest fears. You ain't like you ain't really got punched in your nose well enough for you to understand that pain when you get punched.

I got punched my nose. I thought my shit was broke. I definitely got punched in my that shit. Nah, I'm cool. I'm cool. Is that weird smell too? Yeah, but be you know I smell when you get punched in the nose? It's like you can smell your baby shoes. You smell your baby shoes. It's like a smell I can't even explain. I've never smelled a smell. I've never smelled. I smell. I'm similar to that. That's called memories. You start smelling everything you ever smelled in your life. You think that's the last time you're going to smell something.

Your shit go numb right after that. Fingernails, I never thought about that, but that would make my left. Yeah, getting my fingernails. Getting your teeth pulled. Oh, God, that would. I would give it up. What information you need? I don't know about, yeah, teeth pulled is crazy.

Nails pulled out is probably worse. Then they call out a, uh, they call out like a, uh, some type of manicure. What is it called? The Mexican manicure or Russian? No, not a Russian. It's like a... They probably don't do it, though.

Mexican or Columbia. There's a Colombian necktie. Anywhere with the cartel. Yeah. They call that. What's the movie with Jamie Fox where he's the prosecutor? It's a great, great movie. There's a guy that his family...

Two guys rob his family and kill his daughter and wife. And he, like, happens to be like special... Law-abiding citizens? Law-abiding citizens. You know, he... These two guys... picked the wrong family to try to rob. This guy worked for the CIA and put together all these intricate ways to kill people and to torture people. These two dumbasses pick that house.

Killed his wife and daughter. He puts a plan together for like 10 years because Jamie Fox, as a prosecutor, does a plea deal with one of the guys and he gets out. Yeah. So he takes a puffer fish and puts it on the inside of a gun with a handle. So when you pull the trigger, the puffer fish poison comes out. So the guy that killed his wife and daughter pulls the trigger and he gets into this numb, whatever puffer fish do, like it paralyzes you, but you can feel everything. He then cuts the eyelids off of this guy, puts him in one of those like surgical things with a mirror on top. So he has to watch himself. He goes from like limb to limb and just tears him apart and then keeps giving him adrenaline and cocaine so he stays up and can't pass out. So this guy watched himself

just be deteriorated. That's a well thought out. I was like, that's some well thought out. Jesus Christ. Now the crazy shit is when they, the video of them dumping the dude

in the water, in the ocean that stole, that ran off with the, the work from the cartel and they caught him. That was crazy. Like, imagine like you getting, they're preparing

to dump you into the ocean and you're just laying in handcuffed. And you know, they're about to throw me over with this big ass cement block attached to my feet, like, and I'm just, like, drown. That's not, like, you literally, like, he was way too calm for me, because I would have been, I'm taking a few of you niggas with me.

He's just laying there, like, yo, I'm holding on you while the cement block runs us down. Like, I'm taking, somebody's coming overboard with me. Y, y'all going to have to shoot me before I get down there. Yeah, I'm getting this death grip on somebody and it's like, yo, kill me. I'm not, you're not throwing me overboard while I'm alive. And I'm just, like, just waiting to pass out and drown. Like, that was watching. that was crazy. That was one of the craziest, like, torture things I think I've seen.

Well, I've heard, obviously not from a real source. Drowning is the most peaceful way to die, though. Because eventually after the, you know, the chaos of you trying to find air, your brain loses oxygen and you're not dead, but you go into a Zen state where it is a very calming way to go out. Like, all the struggle stops at one point. You're going to have like a good, like, minute of hell, though. Like a good minute of hell.

honestly shit even the weakest human body probably more than a minute to be quite honest your body is going to fight no matter who you are and yeah that's probably more you we couldn't hold our breath for a minute if we tried now but if we had no choice our body could do it you can't hold your breath for a minute maybe i could i haven't tried in a long time i got like 20 seconds in me i smoked too much hookah 20 seconds you can only hold your breath for 20 seconds yeah how y'all got to work on your lungs man 20 seconds crazy that's not even a commercial you can't hold your breath more than

20 seconds all right we're gonna keep hot and I'm gonna let y'all talk and I'm gonna try to hold my breath and we're gonna see how long I could go but yeah Pete just uh when we say go put in the lower third a clock count nah I don't sure the man's gonna be over there sneak breathing yeah Pete has a headphones on he can he can hear

put pause put your mouth right next to the mic so we can the nostrils flaring up wait let me know when we're starting she breathe it through her ears that's cheap You're right. I'm going to start at 66.30, because we have that clock in front of it. So I'm going to start at 60. I'm not going to do it. He'll be able to hear in the mic if she breath.

He'll be able to hear him. Oh, yeah. Pete will. Yeah. DeMaris got them little nausea. But y'all got to keep, you can't. You got to keep pod and no. So, no, we're definitely going to be silent for the 10 seconds.

Yeah. I'm going to be looking at you just talking about. Yo, just the, she didn't even take a breath before. She's fucked. That was the stupid thing ever. That's going to be less than 20 seconds. Yeah. Something.

That's less than 20 seconds. I don't know where we're at. Either way, anything that has to do with fire, I'm terrified of. Yeah, she's burning a lot. She queefing, she breathing it through her. You can't make a laugh. She definitely breathed.

Have you ever heard a girl where the freaking girls talk about when they suck a dick, they breathe through their ears? I love those types. He said, I love those. When they tweet shit like that, I followed them. Look at this renegade. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I follow them. As soon as I see them tweeting like shit like that, I'm like, let me follow her because she's, she's giving out some scriptures. Absolutely. I honestly feel like Demaris is definitely breathed. She breathed through her nose, man. You know the kids when you're in the pool when you were younger and went underwater and then one kid would like pop his head up and wait to see? And then come back down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What was that? 54 seconds? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's not bad. Yeah. 54 seconds ain't bad, baby, dear. You get to hang with a cartel. And I haven't even practiced for real.

So if Mar wasn't making me laugh, I probably could have. got another 30 seconds in, but Maul was really about to make me laugh. I held my breath so long one day. Almost passed out. You know, you could just start breathing. Nah, like, it was like a bet. It was like $200. So I was like, all right.

I started getting lighthead. I said, man, fuck that $200. My homeboy held his breath almost like two minutes. Some crazy shit. I think that's crazy. Holding your breath for two minutes? I could do it. I think I could do it, though.

Two minutes? No way. Also, just like blocking oxygen to your brain. I don't know if that's like the best strategy. Not, but two minutes ain't going to do nothing to you. I don't know, man. Well, you kind of. I'm already.

I'm already there. Yeah, you ginger. Ginger's can't hold back. But usually, like, that's how people end up as vegetables because they block. Two minutes? You think two minutes, you're a vegetable? No, of course not. But I'm just saying that's a bad thing to block oxygen.

20 minutes, yeah. Who is the writer of Too Fast, Too Furious? Because they have a sick mind. One of the scariest tortures I've ever seen was when they lay that guy down in the club and put a rat on his stomach and then cover the rat and then start putting fire on whatever's covering it because the theory was that the rat can only go down. Yeah, you just wait through your stomach. Duh.

John Singleton? He was a director. Do you write that? John Singleton did too fast and furious? That's crazy. I never knew that. Yeah. Yeah, y'all is sick.

I want to know the inspiration for that. There's another fast and furious coming out, right? Yeah. Yeah. Y'all acting like this shit ain't going to keep going. No, I knew they had a contract for 10. Which one is coming out? Is it 10 or is it?

Nah, we passed 10, baby. Yeah, we passed 10. I think this is past 10. This might be like 11 or 12. Because they said a number eight niggas was going to space or something. And I just, I. 11. You didn't believe Ludacris could go to space?

11 is nuts. Damn, Jiro. Yo. Damn job. Fumbled. That's how I feel when I was, when I was seeing that Terrence Howard fumble fucking being like Iron Man's best friend. Like it's like, God damn, y'all.

Oh, what? I don't even know about that. Yeah, he was in the first one and then I guess they weren't trying to pay him enough. Terrance Howard was in the first what? Iron Man. What? He was Rody. Damn.

Yeah. How long ago did the first Iron Man come out? I have no idea. Like fucking 20 years ago? Yeah, that was long. That was a while ago. Yeah. So how are they going to do this without Paul Walker?

How many have they done without Paul? Like three. Without Paul Walker? Like three. Like DeMara said, I clocked out a while ago. No, they are like three. Yeah, they probably got like three without Paul. I watched the one that they had to finish it with his brother.

Seven. That was seven. So seven was the last one I saw. As Wiz Khalifa was closing the movie out. Yeah. As I was crying during the credits. That was the last one. Oh, I boo fucking who.

Yeah 2016? Yeah Top of 2016 How'd to be Yeah 2015 Yeah

Yeah because I went to the theater and saw that I remember because it was a theater with the seats move and I said never again I didn't need all that

watching the movie fucking nauseous and shit I'd never been to one of those before Don't ever go to none of those Really? That shit was terrible Wait so you felt like

you was in the car Yeah It starts moving It starts vibrating and shit I'm trying to eat my pop I'm like nah this shit And then you look at

looking around in other seats. Like, it ain't no regular seats in here. Like, I just want to watch the movie. Yo, a basketball top of the funniest book. But we didn't know. Like, you know, they start saying in the IMAX 3, all this other shit. I'm like, man, what time the movie starts? I'm old school nigga.

Yo, what time of movie start? I'm not looking at IMAX, all this other shit. Well, we sit down. But I'm just thinking it's the base at first because the chair's vibrating. So I'm like, damn, like this sounds just some crazy. Yo, when this shit started leaning the chair. And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm not, we're not doing that. I'm crying.

I would have died to have been a fly out of the wall. We can't, we can't do this. With mall rocking around like he and the- What is that? Demaris, is it an ick if you're on a date to Fast and Furious with the moving chairs? And that shit just jolt him a little too much. Yeah, like, I'm like, I don't know. You can't handle the moving chair.

I didn't know. First of all, I didn't know this shit was moving. How about that? Like, I just thought the recline was the, just give me a chair that reclines in the theater. I'm cool with that. All this other shit they got going on. And then they got, One now that somebody was telling me where it's shit like sprays water.

I was like, nah, no, we're not doing all of that. You're not taking me. This ain't fucking Disney world, bro. I'm in the middle of Manhattan that a movie dinner, bro. Like, don't spray me. Where's this water coming from? First of all, let's start there. Where is this?

Where's this line of water coming from? Like, what is this? Don't spray me with no water, no movie there. Oh, no. I told you I took Amara to Legoland, and they had like one portion of it had like one of those quick movie things. And they did the water spray. and you're supposed to do to do 10 minutes, then the next group goes.

Amara was screaming when I was trying to take her out because she just wanted to be under the water mist thing for the next 45 minutes. I hate everything. Kids, yes. It's Legoland. How would you not realize that kids like fucking missed? Yeah, kids love that shit.

Anything where they can just get filthy, dirty, they're not going to leave there. Like, I used to live by a Lego land. And when I see kids outside, I'm like, I look at the parents like, y'all are in trouble. Because it's like great when they see it. Yeah. You have to leave, though, at some point. Like, getting a kid to walk out of there, all you hear is screaming. I'm like, why would you even take a kid to Legoland?

That's like torture for yourself. I saw, can you pull up Justice? They want their kid to have fun. He got to leave. I was looking at Justice IG story, and he went to the sphere to see Wizard of Oz. This looked like the greatest thing of all time to me. The sphere in Vegas? Yeah, I saw a clip of this last week.

No, this looks nuts. I would definitely go just to see that. In the Oculus Wizard of Oz, you could like get taken into the tornado? Yeah. Nah, twister. And I think it's the same thing here that affects inside the spheres, fog, fog, wind, things like that. That's fire. Justice said they were throwing leaves at them.

Yes, leaves in there. Imagine you chilling and leaves just be in? I like stuff. This looked incredible. Yeah. I would love to go to this. I mean, I definitely want to go to a concert there with a sphere, but watching a movie like this, that would be so cool.

He probably paid $200 to watch a movie he's seen 500 times. Yeah, but not like this. You ain't see it like that, though. Yeah, you ain't like literally. You can smell Dorothy in there. You can smell her. When you open the door, you're actually in Kansas. You're not in Vegas anymore.

You leave. Imagine that. Imagine they did some shit like that. You're going to see it. When you walk out in Kansas. Elon or Bezos or someone's going to figure that shit out. Hell yeah. No, he's seeing a Harry Potter movie and this would be crazy.

That's something I would pay the million dollars. for. Nah, give me a when we first saw Pinky. Pinky. Oh, you're the horniest nigga I ever

It ain't even a horny thing I would just In this sphere I want to see Pinky and his sphere We're like by yourself Or with a bunch of people? No, no, not by myself Okay, I was gonna say like

Like knee to knee with people While watching that would be Like just imagine That you in a room And you just like The sack All right See why you figure

The sack That's not even a thing That's not even a thing. It's not even a thing It ain't my thing. It ain't my thing. but I'm sure some niggas be out there sack to sack. I ain't doing that.

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I got a question for the whole crew. How do y'all get over a breakup when it comes, especially, like, sooner than you anticipated. And you don't understand, for real, like, how you even got there. My girls broke up with me. I'm going through it. I've been going through it for a few weeks. I can't lie. Yeah.

She sent me a letter, read it. A letter. It is dead from what she said. So, yeah. Curious to hear y'all guys' thoughts, like how y'all get over breakups, how y'all deal with it. Do y'all, like, meet up to talk again, like on that closure thing or not? Just send a text, like, how do y'all proceed? That niggum wants to be back.

Yeah. Appreciate y'all. And, yeah, looking to hear from what y'all say. How are you trying to get over it if you're talking about if we should meet up or send a text? nigga, you ain't trying to get over it. You're trying to get your bitch back. She sent a letter. If you do snail mail,

I'm not trying to link up with you. Like, if I write out a letter and mail it to you. Yeah. I had to have blocked you everything. Yeah, that's closure right there. She took that time to write a letter. Yeah, that's closure, fam. It ain't what you meeting up about.

Or does the letter give you hope? Like, damn, she took all that time to do that. Yeah. That's a sick type of dude right there to think like that. nah she still want me she took time to write this letter like she ain't over it fam she's done that woman is done she don't even want to talk she don't want to text she don't even want to give you a chance to respond in real time like writing the letter and then walk into the mailbox and sending it off did she seal it with a pistol that's a different type of like did she spray it if it's spray like

if it smell like her perfume like what like you know what I'm saying I'm trying to I'm trying to see the vibe if she went bought a stamp Stamps not cheap no more either That's the stamp of the relationship Like yo it is over As soon as this shit gets to you If you reading this is too late This conversation

This is it Like Well can y'all give me some advice I'm gonna work up in World War II I'm how to get over People broke up after Vietnam Like you kidding me? A letter?

Nah dog It's over No but all right You're saying he's sick If he thinks maybe that brings hope I think she's sick If you really over it

just block him and just move the fuck on. The fact that you wrote a letter to me makes her little, like, she's a little sick in my brain. No, she wants to give him, like, the reasons why. A lot of people write, I know when I used to write letters, it was because I don't want to be interrupted. Yeah, she didn't want him to interrupt me. Yeah, I'm saying what I got to say.

She wanted to just get her shit off, read it, sit with it, look at it again, read it again. Like, but just don't contact me. Like, she's, shorty is done in my eyes. Like, I don't know. He might be that. He might be the guy. And then he called us next month and be like, yo, she came back.

You know, that just means she just wanted to go on vacation for a week with the other niggian. That was it. What do you do with the letter? Oh, you do like Phil Jackson, no, like Pat Riley made DeWayton him, do you put it in a barrel at the end of the season and you burn it? Yeah, you take it off. Burning one letter in a barrel? By yourself. The park barrel, you know the big park barrels?

You got to watch that shit burns. One letter. You don't burn it in one letter. Because, like, mail these days is just not really, like, a crazy thing like that. Yeah. Like, what? Once you, after you, like, read it in your kitchen, what is your next move? I'm burning.

Get that shit out there. I'm going to take a magnet and put it on my fridge. You want to look at it every day? You want to walk. Until she come back. That is crazy. Until she come back. Yeah, nah.

Yeah, it's over. Wait, but that puts you in a weird predicament because, all right, if a girl sends you the long breakup text message, either way, if you're like, she's really over it, you're still going have a response. I think any human being would have a reply. To a text message? Yeah. Yeah, but to a letter. I know. With another letter. You call her or you write another letter? Nah, you bugging. Write another letter back is crazy. Because that's almost like you can't. Like, you can't write another letter and then mail it off and send it to her Chris. And how you like, are you during a breakup? You can't write a letter, put it in the mailbox

and then think of yourself, and another thing. And not only that. Now I got to write a whole other. But if no letter come back, would you send another little accent if she got it? Like, if you get the last letter? Now we're playing a mail game. I got to trust the mailman. Nah, dog, no. It's over. A girl mail you a letter saying it's over.

It is over. I still want you to fight for me back. Maybe you can give you back maybe you can. See, that's what y'all do. Stop the crazy shit. You're going to mail me a letter. And then if I don't mail you one back, you're going to be mad because I ain't fight for you? I'm not.

I didn't. I didn't. I, I, you right. You got it. That's not crazy. You know? Like, why? Why even play that game? Like, why not just call me and say what you about to mail me? No, because I don't want, I don't want you to, like, that's like I said, I don't want

you to interrupt me or try to gaslight me and manipulate me. Nope, I took my time. I wrote all this shit out. I thought about it. I'm sending it to you. I'm spraying it with this YSL. Respond or don't respond or show up at my house. I'm going to say, your return address is on there.

I'm just going to get in the car. Women. I think you would know where your girl live. I'm not. I'm like, you like it. Women would be sick enough, though, to send that letter, like, right before a three-day weekend national holiday where all post offices are closed for, like, four days. I just told you, they're going. She's going on vacation with the other guys.

A holiday, she needs her time. She don't want her phone ringing. She don't want to be interrupted. But then when she come back and the situation fits a lot with the other dude, here she come with another letter. You don't know. A letter is thought out. If you want to go on vacation with another nigga, we all, well, people all know what to do. You call.

You start an argument about some dumb shit. You don't do enough for me. me, I'm tired of this. I feel neglected. This, this, this and that. I'm not happy. Like, the fuck is going on. Like, I just need, then the nigga gets so mad.

He says some shit that he can't take back. Boom. I need some space from you. Like, apparently you're not in a good place. Like, I can't have a discussion with you if this is where you're going to be. You hang up the phone. You go on vacation with the other nigga. Y'all took space.

Then by the time, it's time. Like, he's ready for you to be over the argument. You could come back. But you don't do a letter. A letter is too well thought out. Imagine. Imagine. Imagine going through that with a girl.

or she's going to vacation with another dude. And then her thinking that she's going to come back from that vacation and then you still be there waiting for it. You don't know I'm on vacation. You don't know she's on vacation. What if she sent a postcard from the location? Well, that would be a dummy

and she just wanted to hurt you. She didn't want to get over on some. A letter would hurt me regardless. You send me a letter. I'm hurt. You already succeeded and hurting you. A DM postcard crazy. Sitting a letter from the vacation

from the island is wild. Yo, I'm in Turks. And I'm just thinking about all the times I was hurt. But not even with a message. Like when Andy Dufrein sent a postcard from where he was at the border, no message. Like, she just sent it. No message. It's just a postcard.

She was sending postcards from where she at? Yeah. That's wild. Oh, now that's fire. That's a good idea. I'm going to get at home, girls. That's how you end up on first 48. Don't do it.

Don't do it. If I was with a girl on vacation, she was doing that shit, I'd be like, we could take separate flights. Can y'all help him get over her? Lock in. First of all, it's the great locking. No, it's the great locking. You can't laugh because that's how you tell people to get over break up. Hold up.

You got one day and then you got to lock it in. Maris said, you'll lock it in. Yeah. Lock in what? Yo, get out of your grind, get in the gym, start working, start, you know what? She's talking to her daddy. Millprepreg. Milk.

Mill break. Yo, mom. Tell her the nigga to millprime. I promise you the same chicken, rice, and broccoli in the same subway. This thing has got no taste buds. He can't smell. He's not hungry. He don't want to eat.

You telling this nigga to meal prep. And Tamara's act like, maybe he does have a job. Maybe he goes to June. She's trying to make his dog. You try to get over your meal prep, my je. You can always go harder, bro. Like, lock in. There's something, I guarantee there's something you have been neglecting because there's

something we're all neglecting in life. And now that you have open energy, mentally, emotionally, physically because she's not there anymore she left your ass take that all of that and put it into something that you should have been doing anyway man go become a postman in her zip code she like letters

that's what we're worried that's what we'd do that's what right shit yeah that's what we're taking he would become a postman in the zip code what's his name I forgot his name man you lock in man

he left for another one oh we gotta hear it what's good y'all i'm a postman now this is a continuation part two i called last week when my girl broke up me saying i was going through it i'm still going through it but um stop stop paul josh josh josh stop it was how he said it was how he said it mom please all right i was going through it i'm still going through it I'm still going through it. No, fuck with homie.

I respect that. That take a different level. He's so vulnerable with niggas he don't know. He's like, yo, I'm still going through it. Stop, y'all. Because I was wait for the redemption, yo. Last week I was going through it. Yeah, I thought he's going to be like, you know what I'm saying?

He says it. Still going to do it. My bad, Josh. Start that from the top. He ain't locking at all. Oh, shit. I guess this is a continuation of part two. I called last week.

When my girl broke up me saying I was going through it, I'm still going through it. But I guess in addition, my question is, how would y'all approach a quote-unquote closure conversation? Because we're going to have one of those. But she already made her mind up. So, like, I don't really know, like, how to approach this, but I'm going to be there. So, I mean, if y'all see this before I got there, it would be great to hear what y'all think. yeah that's where I'm at wait I feel really bad for him wait because he said how do you have a closure conversation because I'm gonna be there what does that mean like he's showing up regardless

like it sounds like it's going either way he wanted to go like no he said they're gonna have one but he said it's not like she already made her mind up oh so she agreed to have a closing conversation I'm curious how that came about like he asked for one definitely asked for it yeah damn so he Damn, so he already had to Yeah, because this was a couple days ago He left this, right? That's enough time for another letter This was today?

Oh, so he's probably going right now. Yeah, as we're recording. Damn. You can't hit him right now and see if he was Email. Email right now. See if he could do face-time from his email.

Yeah, email him right now see if he could FaceTime us from the closure conversation. Yeah, I want to talk to him and see how he doing, man. So, in the meantime, though, like one of you ever seen a closure conversation like do good for anybody

and what he wore to the closure conversation you know that nigga put on his he bought a whole new lay he bought a whole new fit but then you look crazy if you don't look how you always look now it's like what do you? Don't even look how you always look

you got to look down you got to look bad like you gotta have our sustained sweat would it make your ego feel better the marriage is crazy nah you gotta look like you really like go get a haircut nah nigger put some shit

Don't let her, you know what I mean? Can don't let her see you doing bad. Nah, get a haircut for sure. Get a haircut. Put a hair cut. Put some cologne on. But it can't be a fresh haircut. It got to be four days out, four days growing.

Fresh. He just got it this morning. Y'all don't know manipulation. No, you don't know manipulation. He got to go in there looking like it's business as usual. Like, I'm all right. I'm outside.

Okay, depending on why they broke up. What time can we get this conversation over? Because he didn't say why they broke up. Because if they broke up because he would be cheating, don't come with no fresh hair. Yeah. Because now I'm just reminded of that every time you got that haircut, you went and left the house and fucked on me. So like, don't do that.

So now what you think I'm about to do after we finish this conversation? Either you coming with me or I'm going somewhere else. That's life. Or you got to be like, you're coming with me. You coming home with me. Or we're going to leave here is done and I'm going to go on about my business. That sounds like an ultimatum. It is an ultimatum.

It's a closing conversation. We're closing the conversation. This is it. This is the last conversation we're going to have. What are we doing? you're leaving with me or am I going about my business? I'll let you decide.

Clearly he asked for it but I feel like you just got to show up as your best. Show up late. Texts like, Dan, it's completely slip my mom. I got something else going on but I'll stop by real quick.

Be like, yo, all right, so this shit is over right? I gotta hurry up because she's waiting in the car. And then leave. Just for your own. Because what is the closure conversation that's ever worked? Yeah, you know, sometimes you don't... Unless you're trying to fuck one more time

and be like, it's done, like we tried this it didn't work out but if if somebody was really hurt and was like we're done what is the point of a closure what are we closing yeah we don't know words if we said that where you're gonna find closure we don't know why they broke up or why they're going through whatever they're going through so we don't know the context um like de mara said if he cheated then i can understand why he wants a closure conversation he probably want that last opportunity to be like yo i was fucked up i was you know whatever whatever maybe he neglected her maybe there's something he did something because he's trying to get his bitch back but i'm

I'm saying. The way he's saw him, he wants to, he wants his girl back close the conversation. Yeah, but sometimes, you know, guys just, not that he did something, like, you know, he, not that he did something wrong. Maybe he wasn't doing something and she's like, you know, feeling like, oh, he's not really present in our relationship. Yeah. Maybe he's working too much. So not that he did something wrong. It may be his fault by the relationship kind of fizzled out. That's what I meant, yes. But if that's the case, then I can understand a closure conversation because you want to express to like, yo, listen, like, you know, it's just work and things like that, but I want to make this work as well.

So, you know, I can understand that. But if it's, you know, she's just over it, then sometimes you got to just, just bite that bullet, man. If she's just over it, go, okay, go into the closure conversation with this. Go into the closer conversation thinking that it's already over. Fight for your relationship, but prepare yourself mentally that it's already over and try to get, first of all of your points that you want to make, get them like on a piece of paper in your notes or something and go over them because when you're emotional and you're in an emotionally charged like conversation.

You're going to a conversation with your girl with notes is crazy. Like in another thing. Hold on. You don't got to check. Wait, hold on. I had it pinned. I can't find out. Kind of how we do pre-production.

Like we might not look at the notes. Going to a conversation. Pre-production. But we know what we want to talk about when we going into this bitch. Having an agenda from chat GBT is. Yeah. How do I get my bitch back? Get upset because when you're emotional and you're an emotional state, when somebody's saying something to you, like, you're not thinking straight.

Like, so already, that's why I practice my arguments in the shower. So I know I already have rehearsed this. So when you say that. Oh, you are beyond crazy. You're like on another level. No, but it's because I want to know what the fuck I'm going to say. When you try that, I don't want you to catch me off guard. All right.

So when you having these conversations about how do you think the conversation go while you in the shower, do you respond to yourself? Yeah. But oh you're crazy like you're really like whatever mom I don't think that that's great this is why you can't trust people because I went in chat GBT of how to get your bitch back and they said do you want me to help you draft an actual message to her and balance apology accountability and leaving the door open some of us are getting messages from chat GBT and not the people we talk into that's a fact that's a fact I already know but I mean I feel like there is no point closure to me is what that young lady did. She sent a letter This is I feel That's closure Yeah You going to this is pointless

Closure for you Would be sending a letter back Of all the shit You want to get off your chest Hey I take accountability here Wish is could have worked better here And sending a letter back She set the precedent

If she's over this shit What is a closure conversation I'm gonna bring? I think it's a two The Maris said too though Like Sometimes that's the closure And you know

It is what it is Just leave it at that Yeah Lock in Lock in Focus on yourself man If you want to have closure. Closure comes from within, not from the other person. She already set the tone.

Here's a letter. Write a letter back with all the shit that you want to get off and move on. I wouldn't even do that. He don't want to move on. He can't even, he could just move the fuck on. Like he doesn't need to do it either. But I'm saying that's the only, no one's going to a closure conversation to get closure. They're going to get their, their bitch back. So let's call it what it is. He's not going to a closure conversation. She already had a closure conversation. You need to word that shit correctly, sir. If you, listen. You're trying to get your bitch back.

Listen, sir. Which I get it. I respect. If you, if you like that in the bedroom, use what you got to get what you want. Use that to manipulate. That's all I'm saying. So he should just pull his dick out when he walks in, right? Don't pull your dick out.

You don't pull it out. But you know, like he got a, you got a minute. This woman sent him a letter. That's fine. That means she care. She really loved him. You don't send no letter to no nigger you ain't really love. So because she sends a letter made it very clear that she is completely over it.

He should try to sleep with her. And that will. continue a healthy relationship. I don't think she's not completely over him. Between the letter and the allowing for a closure conversation, she's not completely over. You can be over a situation and still care for somebody that takes time to get over somebody. That's fine, but you're not sending no letter and on top of the letter having a closure

conversation with someone you're not open to still having some type of something with. That's not she's- I got so many questions for homie. Like I got so many things I need. I want to know why they broke up. I think her opening the door to meet and have a closure conversation means there's some hope, but I don't think he should hold on to that hope. Hope is dangerous.

All right, so hopefully. She just might be a kind person and is like, all right, what do you need to say? Because this is done. Hopefully he respond. So you can leave me to fuck alone? If he does respond, can we want to take a pot on why she ended things? You think it was her fault or his fault? Like, you think she just like completely old when she met somebody knew and that was it?

I think he's been a bad boyfriend. Not everything has to do with somebody meeting somebody new. I'm not saying. I'm just saying in this situation. I feel like he wasn't very present in this relationship. And she stuck with him for a while. Like she fought. And he continued with the same patterns.

And she finally just got fed up. I feel like she was with somebody before him. He's the rebound. And I feel like she wants it to work out with the other guy because that's what she still really loves. So that she just kind of called the quits. Does the rebound get a letter though? No. Yeah.

No, I don't know if the rebound gets a letter. A letter? Yeah. No, the rebound does not get no letter. Yeah. I've been a rebound and I've got the, hey, this was fun. He was a rebound. He got a letter.

Yeah. Yeah, we'll be getting letters? Oh, no, I've never got a letter. Oh, I'm talking about high school. High school. Mom. Yeah, that's because letters was the only thing available, Josh.

Yeah, I couldn't, I ain't have no minutes left. He's about passing notes in class. Yo, Josh is fucking crazy. He said, not high school. What? Yeah, okay. I've gotten a note in high school too. The last time I got a letter was in high school.

High school, oh my God. Yeah, but I'm thinking it was something like that. I think that she, you know, she had something before she met him. And she kind of wants to, you know, see if she could work that up. I think that's what it is. Because he sound like he's completely caught off guard, heartbroken. Like he seemed like things were okay and it just kind of just like.

He thought they were okay, but he wasn't really present. He was in the same pattern. See, he thought she was cool. Now, he thought it was okay, but she didn't want to tell him what it really was because she still had feelings for dude before. And then he kind of came back. He probably just came home, did a little bit or something. I'm just saying, we're throwing, we're just thinking anything at this.

We don't know. So I'm just thinking of with anything. But from his tone, he don't sound like he did something. He sounds like he's like, like, yo, man, like, I'm still fucked up. Like, he sound like this shit, like, pulled the rug from upon him. Like, he wasn't expecting it to be over. So that's what I'm saying. It's got to be something on her in.

Okay. Well, I, I, sir, going into the closure conversation. Lock in. Lock in. Know what you want to say. No what you want to say. the fuck up, Ma. Know what you want to say

and let us know how it goes. Marlon, I'm laughing at you. I know what it's like sleeping with a broken heart, yo. I know what that shit feels like. I just feel like he's not prepared. You're a baby, Dee. I know what it's like sleeping

with a broken heart. I love that song. Finish that poem, baby, Dee. I know what it's like sleeping with a broken heart. I thought it was heartburn. I thought it was depostling.

Ma. I'm sorry, man. Thank you. Hopefully we can speak to this dude, though, because I do want to hear why it's, why they broke up.

I'm not saying he owes us a lot of explanation, but I don't think he's prepped because he didn't give us much. All he said was, nah, I'm still fucking. No, he can't even think. I know that. He can't think.

He ain't wash his ass. Mm-hmm. He and there, she's stinking. He just fucked up. Tears and sweat. Tears and sweat. He's in the sink. He just fucked up right now.

Yeah, he's powering up on the, it's just shit everywhere. He has to, to the merits is point. It has to come with an agenda, though, because if you walk in just a fucking mope,

And like you got nothing to say just like what's the problem? She's going to look at you even worse. She's going to look at you like like an annoyance. Like, all right. You wanted to close your conversation for what? What? Come on. Say something.

Nah, that energy is crazy. No, that's energy. Tell him you wanted to close your conversation for what? Say something. You don't think people do the closure conversation shit just to be next to that person for a second. Oh yeah.

For sure. But I'm saying for him to walk in and the girl be like, yo, so what you wanted to talk about? Like, hurry up. I'll be like, I mean, if you come like nothing like.

Yeah. Yeah. Like at that point, It's like, yo, hold up. You ain't even... Yeah, like, you ain't even that cute. Like, you know, fair, like, you get it to that back. You got to shoot at that point of this.

Yeah, like, yo, honestly, you ain't even that cute. And first of all, your handwriting is trash. I can even read half the letter you soon. You gotta start breaking her down at the table. Like, yo, shoes is trash. I've been meaning to tell you to throw those out. No. Is that a liberty stamp?

Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get out of here. Like, at that point. All right, so if you want to take mall advice walking in fly as fuck new fresh hair cut, you got to walk in like, I don't know what you want, but we're not broken up, bro. We're not broken up.

Whatever we're going through, we're going to work it out, but we're not breaking up. I hear everything that you said, and I'm sorry that I've neglected to address those issues before to the point where it got this bad, but we're not breaking up, bro,

so you can hang that shit up. So where do we move on from here? That's what he should say? Yeah. Nah, then the cops is coming. Now, but what if he walks in, and he went to the post office first and got a return to sender stamp

on her letter and showed up with it? Like he didn't even read it? Yeah, return to send it. I would do that. I'm not even reading this I ain't even read you listen I don't know I don't know what this was supposed to be but I didn't read that

giving homie at the post office $5 so you could use the return to send a stand I didn't read that but yeah I do want to talk to him Josh so send him an email and hopefully we could he made closure combo right now yeah he might be yeah he Closure at 340 on Monday is kind of crazy though

yeah yeah he might be and he might not even beat it yet because she probably worked so it's gonna be an after work thing Oh, they probably both at work, stomach bubbling. When you got to have that type of conversation when you get, or somebody texts you, we need to talk and you at work. No, we're talking right now. Yeah, fuck all this work.

We're talking right now. Matter of fact, I'm off, I'm done. I've definitely got to know we need to talk, like, text while we were recorded in my ass. My stomach was in my ass the whole time. What you did, baby, did? My mom. Wrap this shit up. What you did, though?

It don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter. Niggas ain't leave. it don't matter. Niggas ain't leave, baby, D, huh? He's right there? Memories don't live like people do.

Yeah. Yo, I just want to read the marriage group chat one time. I'd be terrified. One time. Shout out to Cardi. Shout out the Cardi B. Shout out the J. Electronica. Like, look.

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