New Rory & MAL - Episode 411 | Hand In The Sand

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

You know we had to kick the pod off talking Cardi B vs Nicki. Rory feels both sides took it too far and this is not what hip-hop is. Mal ain’t sure if hip-hop culture is blameless in all of this. Rory got heat for a simple Twitter take. We don’t know how much we’d sell out for, but Saudi money is looking crazy right now. Can we really blame our favorite comedians for taking the bag overseas? Ray J is about to find out you just can’t launch your own RICO investigation and get away with it. Plus, we help a caller deal with rejection, and Demaris reads an email from a fan who wants her man’s passcode #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,

my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

So let's get to it. Listen to the. the Clifford show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam Jay.

And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to community striving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they failed. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far.

But I'm John Green. Co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel on our podcast The Away End. We'll share with you the magic of international football. all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auer Kohn and John Green on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume. Welcome back. End of the week. Who's excited for the weekend?

You are. You looked totally excited. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I mean, currently when they're listening to this, we're having an office party right now. We're having a rager while they're listening. A rage of a time on Patreon. Exclusively on Patreon. Patreon, Patreon, Patreon.

Clearly we don't learn from our mistakes. Patreon, Patreon. Who's going to get punched this time? My money's on Josh. You cool? Now, De Maris might get punched out. Imagine the fuck that. Somebody ain't going to punch Demaris up.

Why would you say that? I mean, there's going to be girls here. Somebody, you know, girl might be like she, she ain't like something to Maris said last summer. Y'all would be wearing a t-shirt that say, never forget. You can't come to Damaris's house and punch her though That's why you get punched at In your home? Yeah, you never got punched in your house before at a house party

Never, that's wild You never through a house party? I've been punched at a house party but not in my own home Well, it wasn't your house? No Oh, okay I've been punched a few times at housework It's never in my home

Yeah Maybe by a family member But it wasn't a house party It's always a family member But yes, we on Patreon we'll be live doing a little shindig. Tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern. Ironically, I know we made the punching joke,

which I don't know if whatever, statute of limitations. Edna'll be here too, so who the fuck knows what's going to happen? Yes, Eddn is back. Can't wait. I'm so excited to see my guy, Eddn. We're bringing Eddn back. The Hamano. They'll be tequila.

And ICE agents will be in front of the building, so if you're not... My bad, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't think you should apologize as what you mean. I'm sorry. I don't get a problem. Because apology has changed behavior

and I don't think you're going to change. No, but you got to apologize every time you change your behavior. You got to actually change the behavior, though. I did. I said I changed my behavior. I'm sorry. I won't do it again.

Everyone was really offended by all the jokes you made towards Edin except for Edin. That's always the funniest part when somebody's offended and the person that was the victim of it isn't offended. Because he knows me.

He knows that I'm not fucking, it's jokes, man. Everybody, you know. And you're Latino. Yes, exactly. I'm Puerto Rican. Anyways. Yeah. Do you have plans besides our rager?

Are you coming to the party? I'm thinking about it. I'm actually thinking about it. On the fence. I'm on the fence. You know, I got some things lined up, you know what I'm saying?

Let's tell, let's talk about what it actually is. Okay, go to me. Go, go to me. Go, go to me. No, give it to him. Roll it out. Yo,

Nate what I do my job. Roll it out. Roll it out. Roll it out. Roll it out. Roll it out for. Well, we are having a live stream DJ set where DJ will,

I mean, Ed and will be DJing. Tonight. Tonight. Tonight right now. You're listening to this on Friday. Exactly. 8 p.m. Easter.

Sign up for Patreon because it's for our Patreon listeners only. We'll be taking requests. Well, Eddn will be taking requests. I'll be drunk in a corner somewhere with my legs on the wall. I don't think he'll be taking requests. Have you ever met a DJ that takes requests? Edna is not taking requests. No, he's not.

He's not. It's not a middle school dance. People don't have taste. I'm not taking no request from nigs and ain't got taste. I'm filtering the request. If it's some bullshit, it's some bullshit. I won't tell them to play it. How much gasoline do we think Edna is going to play?

None? Ed is not going to play gasoline. This ain't that. I'm calling ice. See? All right. See, it took it a little too far. We're not playing that. We're not playing that. It's R&B and hip hop. Ain't no demo. No, I know. I need to hear Titi me Purgunto and suavamente. Swavemente. She said suavemente, first of all.

Does she need to hear that? In an office. Suavimente. The fuck is suavemente. What is it? Suavemente. Oh, my bad, dog. I'm sorry. You want to hear suavemente. Now playing suavemente.

the fuck is that what does she want to hear I don't even know what's the person that's that teach us how to pronounce bad bunny what the fuck is that bad bunny this is what happens this is what happens when the bad bunny

does the Super Bowl you see the shit is starting already it's fucking start it should have been Kid Rock he got hosed Kid Rock got hosed go ahead I'm sorry maybe they give it to him

anyway whatever sign up through Patreon if you want to come to our party and hang out with us Please. Who is ordering shit while we're recording? It wasn't the other time. It's probably your shake.

It's not my shit. I didn't order shit. It's probably UPS. Don't worry about them. Well, you can sign up for Patreon for $5 and come to our party. And you'll get ad-free episodes. $5 a month. And there will be women showing whole.

No, there will. Okay. It won't be? I'm not coming. I'm not coming. It's not fast. It will not be women. Does that go against the Patreon?

Oh, yeah. Because when we went to the sex time. No, we'll just put a blurry image over it. You know how Pee's like that. It's live. Not, but Peage. He knows how to... He can anticipate the hole being shown.

Yeah, he knows when hole is about to be exposed and he can just be like, whoa, we got a, it's like a delay on the video. It's like a four-second delay. Like how they do with the Grammys? Okay. It's like a four-second delay. Okay. So, yeah. You just switch cameras when a hole comes out.

Wants and she to hold, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Little mama going on stage showing hole in our office. Same thing. Same thing. Makes sense. Okay. Sign up now to Patreon.com forward slash new RoryMall and merch is available.

Mm. Get some, you know, we got some good merch out there, Rory in the streets. That is a fact. You know what I'm saying? We're starting to see, like, a lot of people, you know, wearing it on their way to work. Not really. I'm just, I'm just selling it. I mean, somebody did DM me that they bought some, and it shipped the same day.

Look at the system. And I took the credit. I was like, no, I personally took that. I dropped that off. It was on my way. Yeah, it was on my way. I was trying to pick up my daughter. I was like, you know what?

Let me drop this off so this gentleman can have this tomorrow night. Yeah. You didn't even have a stamp on it. You just put it right in the mailbox. For sure. Okay. What do you think mall's like live stream party swag is? Oh my God.

Rory wants to know my live stream swag. When I go to the movie swagger. When I go to dinner swag is. It's the same swag. He wants to steal your swag. He's a colonizing. I'm going to be sitting right here smoking. There you go.

No, you got to go sit by a window. You can't be, we're going to have gas in here. You're not about the hot box. It's not. Why y'all say hot box? Do you all know what hot boxes seriously? Because I think I think your generation don't know what hotboxes. No, we do.

If there's no ventilation, if there's no, this big ass room with these windows cannot be hotboxed. I agree. It's impossible. But with the type of weed you smoke, just being in the vicinity is like a hotbox. Well, I mean, that's why your people want to smoke bullshit weed. That's on your, that's your fault. That's fair.

Only thing is in a small enclosed area. Nothing about this is small or enclosed. I can't find, I can't find anyone to watch Amara. So you're going to have to smoke like someone. Oh, my God. He's bringing Amara to the office party. Jesus Christ. Amara, be at the office party?

I can't find a. babysitter. What do you want for me? This is great. I'm not coming. Nah, but we show a hole, right? We show a hole. Right? No, we're not doing. I'm not doing. I'm not coming. I'm not coming. I'm not responsible for anything to happen. Baby Amara. If anything happens, I wasn't here. I don't want to know. We're not talking about on the next episode. I don't want to hear about it. All right? I'll leave her in the car. No. Oh my God. I'll find it babysitter more. It'll be okay. Okay. Okay. Well, this week have y'all been on the internet? The internet been internet and y'all been on the internet? No, I went back up to New Hampshire.

I don't even know. I went back to New Hampshire. What happened on the Internet? What happened on the Internet this week? A lot of shit, a lot of shit that we don't have to talk about exactly, but I'm sure. I mean, we're going to talk about it, but Nikki Cardi. Did we say merch is available? Yes.

Nikki Cardi, Santana. Oh, I thought you talk about something like important, like the continued genocide in Gaza. You're talking about Cardi and Nikki. That's not happening on the internet. That's happening in the real. I thought you're talking about like a real conflict the way you, how concerned you said. talking about how we've come to an agreement that they're going to stop killing people on the Gaza Strip.

Like, I thought that's what we told. Oh, my bad. They're talking about the government shutting down this week. Yeah. No, that's happening in real life,

not the internet. Got you. You've been on the internet. Okay. No, I haven't been on the internet. So what happened on the internet, baby? They give it to us.

So there has been some conflict between the female rappers. Oh, I thought you're about to say Israel. When you say conflict. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Look at how we use words, though. Yeah. The same thing is. It's a conflict. It's not a conflict. They beefing. Nobody's conflicted. They made their points very clear.

They don't like each other. They beef it. It's all out war. Like, it is what it is. But, go ahead, give it to us. Give it to the people that may not know what happened on the internet, baby, Dee. Go. So the people who may not know what happened on the internet, um, basically Cardi and Nick even on there talking shit about each other's kids.

Again? And, yeah, it's, but it's bad. It got really bad to the point where, like, everybody was kind of like, y'all need to stop. Like, when you're saying, sending direct insults to the children, calling the children slow, saying they banging spoons, talking about the children's teeth. Yeah, it got bad. Banging spoons? They make fun of Nikki's child because they're saying they, there's a rumor that Nikki's child

is nonverbal or autistic. Okay. So Cardi attacked that because Nikki, I mean, because Nikki was attacking culture and talking about her gums and talk. It's just bad. It was just got really, really bad and nasty, like really, really bad and nasty. And it has gotten to the point where people are kind of like pulling out of it. It's not even like entertaining anymore.

And I just kind of wanted you guys's opinions on. I know we say like, for example, the pedophile bar was too far, right? Allegedly the pedophile bar was too far. Talking about kids is obviously too far. And you're not even rhyming. Yeah. Oh, no, there was a whole bunch of ABC, D, EFDs in there. Yeah, but.

I mean, anytime the barbs say, hey, maybe we should pull back a bit and have some civil discourse, you know something is really, really wrong. This is, this is weird. I also don't care about the theory that Nikki is only saying the things that Cardi has said about people in the past to put the mirror, and we just don't understand the triple entendres. This is gross and disgusting on both sides. I don't care who started, who said the kid shit first. Both people participated and are still participating.

to continue to talk about children. This is the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen. Two A-list artists trying to one-up each other on Twitter about who can insult their child the most? What are we doing? I know we can have the LOLs or whatever. What the fuck is this? Who on either side, family members, baby fathers, husbands,

anybody, somebody, just rip out the Verizon wireless shit in their house. Yeah. Yeah. The PR people are at home just chewing on their, like I would just be chewing my fingernails off if I was their PR. Like, what am I here for? What is my job? I got, I got eight hours of sleep and woke up and they were still, they were just going through more kids. It got bad. And allegedly it started from obviously, Cardi's rollout and everything, her rollout was going great and everything. And then Nikki started, you know, tweeting stats and little things like that. And then she started mocking some things that Cardi was saying on her album.

And that sent Cardi into a blind rage. And my thing is, I just, we've said it before, I just want Cardi to stop taking the bait. Because now we were just talking about how she had a great album, great rollout. Everything was going great. She did what everybody wanted her to do. And now you don't let yourself get pulled into some mess.

And now no one's talking about that. They're talking about this. Well, also on Nikki's side, Cardi kind of said the same thing we were saying a few episodes ago of Nikki even posting her album date or even getting involved during this rollout. Like now you're putting yourself, you're the goat. Cardi's like, I have two albums out. You came out when I was in high school. Like, now we're the same? Why are you even entertaining me?

If you're supposed to be up here, why the fuck is my rollout part of your rollout now for next year? Nikki has now put Cardi at the exact same level. Yeah, but that's, I mean, wasn't Cardi, wasn't she on the phone screaming at Ice Spice? And her people, Ice Spice is younger than her. She came out, her album came out when Ice Spice was in high school. Like, so none of that matters. It's at an age. And when you came out, if you don't like somebody, you got issue with somebody, you express it.

I think this is the wrong way to express it. I think it's one way to go about it. I think it's distasteful. I think it's, you know. But I mean, listen, man, people don't like each other. We know that. people are, you know, competitive. Women, when you have women involved, it can become very caddy and very, you know,

just because that's the thing that women have in them. You know, they have that ability to kind of like keep receipts and, you know, weaponize things with family and, you know, personal things about each other. And, you know, I mean, it's unfortunate that it's Cardi and Nikki, but I mean, is it surprising anybody at this point? Obviously, these two women don't like each other. that. There's other ways to express not liking someone. Yeah, through the music. Sweet away, I just don't know why kids have to come into anything whatsoever to this degree. I'm not saying

there hasn't been in the past when it comes to the hip-hop that kids haven't been involved, little shots here and there. I'm not saying that hasn't happened. I'm not saying these two are the first people to ever bring children into a verbal altercation. But to this degree, it's been three days of just trying to one up kids that are like three and four years old. Who could say a nastier thing about a child? Kendrick. Has he said nasty things about children? He called Drake a pedophile. But that's not him attacking his child. Okay. That's him saying Drake is a pedophile. You know what pedophile is? I do know what a pedophile is, but it's not attacking a child. It's not talking about a child. Not a specific child, yeah, but it's the same thing. Okay, fair. But completely aside from that, with this

conversation, calling children out of their name and then talking about certain issues or physical appearance, this is fucking gross. It is. Like what type of adult or parent would even feel comfortable doing this? And listen, to Kari's credit, I know she would say, what would you say if somebody said something about your kid? Maybe you'd get a tweet out of me, but maybe probably just silence. And I'm not calling for anyone violence whatsoever. But if you think I'm going tip for tat on Twitter once you bring up my kid, no. Well, that's what you. she said, she said, I don't even want to keep doing this. At this point, you got to see me.

And not insinuating anything, I'm just saying it would be quiet if it got to that line. There would be no banter back and forth. Yeah. Well, I agree. Fullheartedly, I agree. Yeah, I, I know there are, so there are some conspiracy theories that Cardi and Nikki are, stupidest fucking conspiracy theories, but people are like, they're working together for this. And at this point, I'm like, they're not working together.

But what I would like to know is someone is sitting there thinking that this is good marketing. And I'm just wondering where the line is drawn because there is such a thing as bad publicity. Not all publicity is good publicity. This has to look shitty for whatever brands they work with. This looks bad. If I'm the CEO of a major company and I have a partnership with somebody or I'm paying somebody to sponsor my brand, I would never want them a to this. I don't care who started first. You see what I'm saying? But why do you say it looks bad?

These are grown women attacking children. Yeah. Like that looks bad for a brand. If I'm the CEO of a major brand, yeah, I don't want this person attached to my brand. I mean, I get it, but what you're saying is correct. When you start talking about each other's children, you know, now that's a whole different level of disrespect and, you know, just nasty things to say. But if we, if we being real, that's, is that not our culture of hip-hop? Who can say the worst shit about each other? Who can disrespect each other the most?

Who can? Is that not it? Is this, like, I'm not, I'm not as surprised as anybody else is. Like, granted, yeah, they're talking about kids, but it's like, okay. Okay, but you don't think there's an arena for that? Like, they're not on, they're not on stage at summer madness. At URO. Yeah.

So that's the only place I can think that where they do. To me, no, this isn't hip hop. Yes. Are the two people involved in this verbal altercation, both hip hop and both rappers, of course,

but that's not hip hop. Tweeting about someone's kid is not hip hop to me. So I'm not quite sure of your example. I mean, of course, in rap battles, yeah, there's probably no rules on a lot of stuff,

whether we agree or not. They've said insane things in URL that I could not even believe people stand. there and just take it. They have the patience of a fucking Jedi. So this is cool. This is, this is just two people insulting each other's kids. There's nothing hip. Just because they both rap doesn't make it hip hop. So if it was a beat plan and they said these I would say this is a nasty battle. That's what I was. It is a really nasty battle. All right. So this is Acapulco. That's all. We just got a acacobos. When Damarist said,

nobody rhymed yet. This is just statement. I saw Cardi say something. She was kind of rapping on one of I know, I laughed when they were doing the ABC, the EFG show. I thought it was funny. But then it just got to that line whenever Nikki had said culture, whatever, I was like, well, here we go. And 48 hours straight of just naming kids. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's unfortunate for it to play out like that. And again, you know, whenever you start disrespecting each other's kids,

it's reached a whole different tone, a whole different level. So, I mean, I came here last week, you know, y'all know how I feel about Nikki. know how I feel about Cardi. I came here, tried to, you know, throw Nikki some base. Said, nah, what she announced that? I was like, nah, that ain't got nothing to do with Cardi. That's just, you know, Nikki. But it's clear as day. Like, these two women just absolutely do not like each other for whatever. I don't even know where they started. I don't know what was the cause of it. At first years ago, I thought it was just a competitive thing. You know,

Nikki being the top dog and, you know, here comes Cardi. They're trying to place somebody in that lane and kind of give, you know, healthy competition to whoever the top female MC is. which we understand in music. So I just thought it was a competitive thing. And I thought, you know, fan bases, you know, add to that and fuel that a little bit. But it was okay because it seemed like it was just a competitive rap thing. Like who's the top female rapper? But now it's going way too left.

It's personal. It's a lot of behind the scenes. I believe that it's going on on both sides, things that are being said, information that is being fed both ways, a lot of pillow talking, a lot of. talking, a lot of, you know, group chats. The rumors that Nikki is schizophrenic are on drugs, right? Why is that the rumor? There's been, because of the things that the rants that she goes on, people would say that

they don't connect. Accusing Jay-Z of trying to kill her and ruin her career or of, like, that whole Jay-Z Rock Nation thing. Even when she was arguing with Cardi, she was throwing that out there. Like, she's been attacking Jay-Z for, like, a year now, damn near. So, and it's just certain things that, like, saying that, oh, they set Juice World up to be killed on her birthday, like, things like that. Like, Maul, I'm asking you as, like, a barb. Like, you don't, are you not seeing anything weird or, like, maybe anything like a red flag?

Like, this is not making sense. Like, this is not normal human behavior. Yeah, but I'm not tying drugs and schizophrenia into it. I think that Nikki is just saying things that she filled. Maybe she has information that we don't have. I mean, I don't know, but I don't go to drugs and schizophrenic. Like, if we didn't hear that, if we didn't hear that Cardi rant about Ice Spice, would one say she was on drugs and when she was on the phone yelling at whoever she was yelling at,

somebody would say that's a drug doubt her tweaking out on the phone, though? Just because she's not tweeting it, but she's actually yelling it over a phone. Okay, so there's a difference between like getting upset about something. I don't people don't contribute you cussing somebody out or going off to drugs like that's not that's just you just mad you piss the fuck off when shit is not making sense or like connecting but that's what I'm saying maybe she has information we don't have

this is Nikki Minaj you think you think Jay Z is out to ruin Nikki Minaj's career and is doing everything I don't think that I'm saying Nikki may have information where she thinks that I can't call somebody drugged out and schizophrenic because they're saying something that I'm not informed about or I don't believe. To me, that's not a fair to put that on somebody is not fair. Now, do I think going on Twitter and expressing that is the best thing? No, I think that's like, why would you even do that?

Because, first of all, nobody cares on Twitter. I can promise you that. Nobody gives a fuck. So going on there and expressing these things that you feel are true and you think are real, for what? Like, that doesn't, people on, they're just going to use that for memes and, to say you're on drugs and like they don't care about that. So to me, expressing it there to me makes no sense.

I never understood why people run to social media and express things like this as if people care. I promise you people do not give a fuck. But well, I just can't go to Farms diagnoses somebody with schizophrenia and being drugged out because of what they're tweeting. I'm not doing that. I can't do that because sometimes you do that and you're wrong. And then now you look like an insensitive.

person because it's like, oh shit, this person wasn't just going crazy on their Twitter and saying things like, that was really happening. And sometimes it's not happening. You know what I'm saying? But again, I don't put, I'm not here to diagnose somebody with schizophrenia and being on drugs. I don't do that. I don't run to that. I mean, I don't know.

Nikki has obviously spoken about drug abuse in the past, but I'm not saying that means now she's still on drugs. But I think it's erratic behavior on both sides. diagnosed or undiagnosed or undiagnosed is just erratic and insane stuff that I think is going to bleed outside of just Twitter

because of course we've seen things in rat battles shit that was just on wax still go further but sometimes people have held back because it was just a rat battle this is statements you don't think the Brins love culture

you don't think the Macballers love Papa Bear like this isn't just this isn't a battle anymore there's people attached to all these statements about kids you don't think there's other people that love these children too that don't think this is funny which which brings in which brings in now you insert cardi's sister and things like this who are getting involved in shit and it's just like it's really really it's nasty is disappointing as a fan a person who has been a fan of i've been a fan of nicky since i was in ninth grade eighth grade um cardy too

Yeah, that's well documented. But I've been a fan of Nikki Damner my whole life. And as a fan, it's just like to see the switch in this where it's just like, why are you doing this? Like you don't have to do this. Not a delusional fan, not a bar that can make excuses for certain behavior. I'm not making excuses for certain behavior. At some point, you have to look and be like, like as a fan, like, why are you doing this? This is not necessary.

Why are you doing this to us? Why are you making us have to come here and sit here and defend you or come up with excuses for the things that you're doing? Yeah. Why? Why this? You know what I'm saying? Like just you are still capable of making good music.

Just do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, why are you for years when people were trying to stick up for her when it came to Lil Kim? And then you're sticking up for her when it comes to Cardi. You're sticking up for her when it comes to Megan. You're sticking up for her when it comes to Lotto. At some point, it's like it is not.

everybody just wants to hate Nikki Minaj train. At some point, baby, we have to acknowledge that you might be the problem. And the barbers are going to come. I don't give a fuck. Like, that's, it's tough. As someone who grew up knowing all the words to warning, it's fucking tough. Like. I mean, we've had those conversations for years.

We've acknowledged that there probably was an entire scheme to get Nikki out the fucking paint. But we've also seen Nikki. shoot herself in the foot and be her own worst enemy a lot in reacting to these situations. But again, with that said, if this was just the two of them rapping back and forth and some things went over the line, whatever, I feel like everybody would be like, just, it's a rap battle. That's women's business. Just let them do that. I just don't think this has anything to do a rap anymore. And I don't think Zhu plays about his child. I don't think offset plays about child. I don't think the people around them play around their children. Like, yeah, this is just

far past anything we could discuss in the history of Cardia, Nikki. Well, we've seen, I mean, I don't, you know, I remember little Kim and Foxy. I remember Hot 97 and what happened. So, you know, we know where things can go. We know how shit can go left really fast. Um, hopefully that's not the case here. You know, hopefully somebody, you know, I don't know who's, you know, to these women who's in their ear, who they trust the most. But somebody needs to intervene and, you know, try to stop things before they go left and go to a place where, one, we don't want to see it go. And to a place that it doesn't need to go. It's just, you know, again, you know, words is words. And sometimes you say things that are hurt for when you can't take

back and some people ain't going to just let it slide. You know, but hopefully Whoever is in their corners, you know, somebody could, you know, pull these women to the side, try to get them on the phone, something. Because, again, you know, I understand how Cardi feels. You know, somebody's talking about your children. And I understand how Nikki could feel. Somebody talks about her children. But again, hopefully, you know, these women could get on the phone, you know, air out whatever grievances they have, whatever issues they have, away from social. media away from, you know, people feeding, feeding them energy that they don't need. And just, you know, talk about and address whatever the issue, the issue is. Because at this point, you know, as we're sitting here saying, it's going too far. It's way too far now. I mean, I highly doubt a phone call would ever happen. I mean, shit, would you get on the phone with somebody that said these types of things about your kids?

On both side, Nikki and Carty. I don't think anyone would get on the phone with somebody, but I hope somebody that is a, mutual between the two of them can just have them both code their separate ways and just just I would get on the phone with somebody if there's somebody you know me and somebody's going back and forth Twitter and they mentioned my kid and then I mentioned their kid and whatever we're going back and forth you know I if I had as much to lose as these two women do I would absolutely get on the phone like um I mean crash out and both be in prison away from our children no I'm not saying that I'm saying if putting myself in this situation let's say something like this

happen. I wouldn't get on the phone with that person, but if there was somebody mutual that we both respected that wanted to dead this, I would give a message through them. Cool. It's over. It's done. But you don't want to talk to them? No. Okay. I would have no reason to. What do we have to say to each other? There won't be any resolve here. So knowing that where it could go could ruin both of us and our families and our children's future, let's go our separate ways. You don't say a fucking word? I won't say a word. Yeah. Negative. or positive. We don't need to speak. The fuck we need to speak for. Okay. I mean, you

have a daughter, so I got to take what you're saying. I mean, but just not even with them, just in general. I do kind of hate the thoughts that, like, kumbaya or conversations need to happen. We can all coexist with people we don't like and just not

speak about them and just move the fuck forward. Yeah. Because I love my friend Della. Della is one of the best like neutral people as far as getting to the root of a problem and making sure everyone on both sides feels great about it.

He has that skill that I don't have and I admire him for it. But there's plenty of times where I'm like, why the fuck, we don't have to solve anything. We could just, everyone could just agree to never speak and move the fuck on. Yeah. The fuck I need to be, we don't have anything to speak about anymore. Mm-hmm. I don't need to sit. I'm not wasting my time talking to somebody I don't want to talk to. Just, just for the sake of resolution. Resolution is shutting the fuck up and going about your business.

I think that would be the most ideal thing for Nikki and Cardi at this point. Got you. Because again, I just, this could go to a crazy place. Yeah. You even bringing up the Kim and Foxy thing,

all legend, of course. Shit gets a little different when it's two women beefing and the people that love them that are behind them. That shit gets a little crazier than when men beef. Yeah, because women have that ability

to, you know, push men to, prove you love me prove you a man I mean yes there's some women that take advantage of that for sure but then there's also just men that you know

with testosterone as a man you're a protector and you feel the need to do so especially with your children your wife your girlfriend but part of part of protection is avoiding things before they go facts I mean that's not

protecting ain't just going outside grabbing the gun and and shoot shit up Protection is also avoiding and, you know, like, understanding what's at risk here, what's at stake, what can we lose. Like, that's, that's part of protection as well. It's avoiding bullshit, avoiding drama, putting it to an end before it goes to another place. Or let's just repeat history and watch it happen all over again. Yeah.

Like, I mean, I'm old enough to remember these things. So it's like, you know, when we say, we're talking about Twitter, I'm just like, bro, I was outside when Kim and Foxy was beefing. Like I know I saw where that went You know what I'm saying So this I'm like Yeah it's crazy and it's unfortunate And I wish it wasn't happening And these women weren't saying these things about each other

Because I respect and I support both of them But it is what it is We're here I think that there's still room for reconciliation Because again As long as things haven't gone Gotten physical or Well they have

Well yes At the Met yes but again that was a little fist of cuffs it's okay I think there's nothing wrong with that the Mett Gallas born anyway we need a little fight everything you have to keep

Anna Winter on our toast Yeah yeah everybody you know do their thing and swing and do what they got to do They should do fight club Is the theme this year Yeah

That's the Mett Gala theme Yeah let everybody get their shit Oh who got what to say about who man Because there's no cameras right Nobody's allowed like Yeah nah What happens in there What happens in there

That's a fucking fight club So where your pretty gowns And your dresses on the red carpet And then when y'all get in there, throw y'all and fucking bro. You know what I'm saying? Nike skims. Yeah, throw your Nike skims on and get to it, man.

Outtrial grievances. And that's it, man. You'd be surprised how much that really could resolve. Yeah. We got it in. No one's going to know who won or lost, and we just keep moving. Camarice, if you're allowed, are you taking that back? What do you mean?

If I'm a lotto? Yeah. We'll give some backstory. No, I'm just saying. Cardi said she was going to buy her bag because, you know, the audio leaked to her. No, I'm taking the bag for sure. Oh, no, you would take it? Let me finish talking.

Damn. You say you're taking the bag for sure. Let me finish talking. Yes, I'm taking the bag, but I'm never, I can't look at you the same from that. And I get, I get, listen, y'all know I love Cardi. I get, I get being mad. And when you mad, you say a whole lot of shit that sometimes you mean and sometimes you don't. But if I'm Lotto, no.

If I'm Lotto, I'm never taking that bag. No, that's, that's, that's, I can't, I can't focus on your DSP. I can understand being angry. It's a great verse too. Take my verse off your DSPs, me. Yeah. Because if you just said, like, if, if she would have said, I ain't Lotto, I ain't Megan, like, I, I'm not just going to let you talk all this bullshit and just let you rock. Da-da-da-da-da.

Like, if you say it like that, that's different from saying, I'm not a pussy. Oh, don't use me as the example. Who pussy? Don't use me as the example. Well, that's why you saying you would take the bag as crazy to me. I'm not taking no bag from somebody that's called. Were you crazy? Fuck.

I could go get my own bag, my own burking. What are you talking about? I'm not taking that bag. If I'm lotto, no, there's no way. You hear somebody talk about you like that, and you just gave me a bomb-ass verse. And nah.

And I hate that, that over it because that's, I love that song. And it completely overshadowed the fucking song. Yeah, because now we show you how people will really be talking about you and feel about you until they need you. I don't respect that.

I thought that was crazy. That was fucked up. I respect the apology. But that's, that was a good. No, you respect the apology. Like, I respect Cardi for, you know, being woman and saying, yo, you know, I said things while I was mad and I apologize. But if I'm lied or I'm not taking that. I'm not taking no bag.

I'm calling me pussy. Now, that's a pussy bag. Every time I look at that bag, I got that because I was called a pussy. Yo. And now I'm super pussy. Yeah, now I'm super pussy. Like, now you can call me pussy and just buy me a burkin and I'm cool? Like, nah.

I never want to hear a woman to say that material items don't count as an apology. So that's the thing about, and I feel like people I've been telling Cardi this for the longest, about letting people get you so upset that you step out your body. And now you're just saying things that you ain't even you're saying things on the phone with people you might not even mean or you weren't it wrong or

you can't let people get you that upset. Like imagine the Thug bought all of them niggas he was talking about on the phone of Rolex. I thought you was about to say it bad because that'd be more realistic. That'd be more realistic. I could see Doug buying baby a Birkin. Like imagine he showed up like,

you, my bad gang, but yo, that new AP, ain't no man taking. Like, yo, get out of here. You buy me a watch after talking about me. Like, nah, no way. But I do respect Cardi apologizing because she knows she was wrong for that. Well, let me just say this.

I don't know Lotto never met her. I don't think Lotto was accepting that bad. No, I don't think so either. I don't think she's accepting that. I said I would accept it because, I mean, I came by my own working, so of course I'm going to accept it. But, yeah, Lotto, yeah. That will hurt my, and more than anything,

it would hurt my feelings. It will hurt my feelings more than anything Because it's like, damn Like I thought we like fuck with each other Like I'm pussy Cause I ain't like But that's what this industry is baby D It's all fake

It's all As long as I need you I need you for something I'm cool with you That's all it is That's why I'm not surprised at none of this shit Because we I've been around the industry

Long enough to know Like yo people y'all be thinking I'm like these people We'd be talking by each other behind closed doors like dogs They'd be talking crazy And then you see them in a video I'm like, you know, they got a song together.

But it's the same thing when I see girls at the club with girls. And I'm like, they don't even like each other. They hang, they partying with each other? I'll never, I can't fake no shit. Like, I'll never understand. I'll never understand. It's not fake. Like, I've gotten to the point of being in this industry for 15 years, damn it.

Yeah, 15 years. That it's not fake. I just don't, I don't put any stake into industry relationships. like I'm not being fake with somebody I just don't care no I'm saying industry relationships are fake yeah that's what I'm saying I'll still like that someone be cool with them we laugh to party whatever but in my head I have no thought like this person is loyal to me or this is my real friend like when I was younger yes I definitely felt that way but if I was in lot of position at my age now and experience I would probably just laugh at that and be like well I never expected cardi to do otherwise

It's like, it's just somebody that I've worked with. They don't owe me any loyalty. Yeah. It just kind of is. Like, the more you stake you put into relationships that have no basis outside of what we can do for each other, which is totally fine, by the way. It's totally fine to work with people that are cool,

but that ain't your friend. Right. If there's a leak tape, but you talk a shit about me, all right. If there's a leak tape of Demaris talking shit about me, now it's a whole different story because that's my friend. I wouldn't know. But if there's somebody like,

I'm shit. It would never leak. You would leak it. It wouldn't be leaked. It'd be on your feed. Yeah. Facts. So, I mean, I also don't think Lotto ever thought like Cardi B was her friend.

Yeah. To be honest. And maybe I'm arguing against my own interest here, but I have to ask the merits, why do women think material items can count as like a fix? Like, if you do some foul shit and then you buy me something, like, I don't understand how that in your brain. No, it's only a fix. Women started that.

If it's a woman doing it. No, no, I know. If you cheat and buy your girl, but she ain't forgiving you. I'm saying, because that's kind of been the age-old stereotype when men fuck up,

they buy their girl something. I've never like, how the fuck could that solve anything? You bought me some shit? Yeah. I don't. Like, the way Cardi said it in the tweet just made me just laugh of like,

okay, case closed. I buy her bag. Everything good. I don't think it's. means everything good. I think it means I fucked up and I'm willing to do something for you because I know I fucked up. Well, just give me the apology. And I mean,

I respect that. Yeah, but why that work for Cardi, but not for when men cheat on their girls? It works for a lot of men. How many bags do you think of? It works for a lot of them. They work. He divorced now. That was like 45 bags later. Yeah, but so

what, though? I got a bag for every apology. But also, I think when women start accepting that. They've checked out and it's like I might as well just get a benefit out of this in the meantime. Like I'm not going to forgive them. I know how to move now. But if you want to keep buying me shit, cool. It's not solving nothing. I promise. I respect the apology. I just thought the bag part was unnecessary. We all fuck up and say things we don't mean. I mean, yeah, Cardi was angry and it went a little too far. But I don't put too much stake into it. I just think it,

what even caused all that? Like, why is, why is Cardi screaming a, Jimmy Anshman's son. Oh, that's what you're looking for it? Yeah, Jimmy Edgman's son manages Ice Spice. Okay. Can you tell me where that old beef? I have no clue. I missed that.

But what Cardi was yelling about, it seems like maybe when shit was going on, Ice Spice, like, posted like a track and then like an emoji, like trying to capitalize off the beef moment. That's what I got from it. I could be wrong. But that's what it seemed like. When I first heard the call, I thought it was old. And then they were like, oh, that was. like last night and I'm like, oh.

No. Maul, you've been telling me nonstop that you're thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone 17 Pro because it is designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever. You will not shut up about it. The Zoom feature is incredible. Insane. But are you also thinking about the traffic on your way to the store or transferring all your data?

No, I'm not thinking about that. Well, if you were, good news. When you order a new phone online with Boost Mobile, they'll send an expert to your home or work or to deliver your brand new iPhone 17 Pro and get you set up on the boost. Boost Mobile within minutes. No hassle whatsoever. Visit boostmobile.com to get started. Delivery available for selected devices purchased at boostmobile.com.

Terms apply. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, the Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.

It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross

double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. And, yes, I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars. And now, I guess also as the co-host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist.

And John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, it's hope, it's heartbook. and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode.

The World Cup is coming. Ramos sending on the Army Stewart of the chip. I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Boat. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Polisic. I'm not worried about Balagan. I'm not worried about McKinney.

My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here.

Experience it all with us. Listen, inside American society. soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. I said, hi, dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen, and she says, I have some cookies and milk.

This is his badass convict. Right. Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at him all. Yeah. On the Ceno Show podcast, each episode of advice you. into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption.

On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail, talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to bench, featuring powerful conversations with the guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more.

I'm an alcoholic. And without this trouble, I'm going to die. Open your free I-Heart radio apps. search the Cito show and listen now. But anyways, this has been way too serious of 40 minutes. Like, I want to get to some laughs. Prayers for everyone involved. Cardi and Nikki, Ice Spice, Lotto.

You're not praying. No, I want people to pray. I'm not saying that I am praying. I'm just saying prayers. They said that we forgot when we were talking about song of the summer, that we forgot whim whammy. Who? Whim, win, whimmy.

Like, proved old bitch. So what the fuck? Put some Lulu on our butt. A Lulu lemon. You don't. That's sexy, right? No. No.

Who is that? I'm pretty sure it's YK. She sounded like, who's a dude that's on OVO? Mr. Tumazza. That's who Damaris just sounded smiling. But that's how to solve those. Oh, Wemmi is her name? It's by Pluto and YK.

K. Nees. Yeah. It's a joint. Oh, it's a group. Yeah. Not a group. Oh, it's two, two solo artists. Basically UGK.

I've never. heard that song before my life. So Mall was saying he's never heard Wim Whammy before, right? So they were on our ass to not mention that for Song of the Summer. I really think it's... Who was on my ass? I really think... That is definitely not song of the summer. So what I will say is, what I will

say is... I'm an Allo Girl. Whim Whammy, when... So it's a... It's a age and demographic thing. Definitely an age thing, right? Because when you say somebody loves me, when they bought up Wim Wemmi, I'm like Wimmi was definitely bigger than someone

somebody loves me this summer. But you wouldn't know that because it's an age thing. It's an age. Like the song of the summer, we're now at the point where it's going to be different for different ages. People who are 18, 19, 20, 23 are going to have a different song of the summer than someone who is in their 40s. Like, it's just two completely different things.

But I did want to shout out to Pluto and YK. Neese when we were talking about song of the summer, Wimwemi deserves some, they deserve some recognition for that. If WimWammi was the song of the summer, I had a terrible summer. My summer sucked. Because she wasn't whammy. Wimwammy. Shout out to those ladies.

I mean, dope. You know, their record was doing shit out there, but I'd never, I never heard that song. Seriously. Like, and if I did hear it, I probably, like, heard it in passing and thought it was sexy red. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, shout out to them. Like, I mean, the song was hot this summer.

Dope. My first time hearing it, though, so thank you for putting me on the whimwammy, baby. I got you. I tweeted yesterday what I thought. was just an innocent tweet of my own opinion, I had said that I think Chance still might have rap album of the year. And the amount of text messages and hate and death threats that I have received, I was on blogs. Like, you would have swore that I went to Saudi Arabia to do comedy. Like, I could not believe the amount of people that were angry at me that I had just

mentioned that I think chance has wrap out of the year. Like, I had friends text me in anger. Chance album was good, though. Granted. I like Chance album. I fully think that the clips is right there and you can make an argument. But God damn,

did I not get the clips marching orders? Did that not go through volume, Josh? You are not allowed to say that there was a better album than the clips ever. No. And I love that project. And Birds Don't Sing video came out this week. It was beautiful. Definitely was cutting, cutting some onions watching it.

Incredible project. But God damn, I did not get the memo that you were not allowed to say that the Clips album wasn't the greatest thing you've ever heard in your fucking life before. My God. I had white people telling me this is a white take. How love when that happens. So people think that the Clips album is rap album with a year? which is fine. I'm one or two with it.

I listen to Chance and to clips probably the amount, probably about the same. When I get in the car, it's either throwing one or two on. But I really, really like this Chance album. As a fucking 35-year-old parent, I relate to a lot of the things that Chance is saying in this album.

Now, granted. Freddie, Alfredo, was it, three? Two. Two? Alfredo two. It can be in the conversation. I still think the clips and chance is a bit better. And maybe I went in because I had Alfredo won expectations with it. Still love it.

But it's not to the degree I thought it was going to be. But God damn, I apologize to the hip-hop community. I did not get the email that you were not allowed to have a different opinion. No, you can't have it. Are you crazy? No. It's what I like and that's it. What I say.

Sometimes it's not what you like. It's what sounds better when you say it. Yeah. Because I know a lot of people that were never clips fans at all. It's cool. If this is your first time listening to the clips, that's amazing. I'm not one of those hip-hop fans. It's like if you don't know the first one.

No, cool, whatever. But some of y'all are just saying shit because it sounds good to say it. That seems like the right thing to say. Oh, you're telling me. Oh, you're telling me. I know. Oh no, no, no, trust me. Outside of the clips, the only other messages I was getting was

GNX rap album with the year 2025. And I looked at the date and I was like, damn, I didn't know you could do that. Oh, man. And that's been some good music this year, though. Yeah. You've got some good music. JID, I think, is definitely up there too. Yeah.

Shit, ghost album is incredible. Yeah, there's been a lot of great music, but. Have y'all heard Jermaine DePrees or Ice Cubes yet? Admittedly, I've not listened to Ice Cubes. Listen to J.D.'s album. I need to hear that in Atlanta around sex workers. I'd not hear any album around sex workers. I wouldn't give a fuck what's playing.

You play me Kings of Leon around sex workers. I'd be fucking jamming. Oh! Okay, Pipes. Wesley Pipers. I was looking around. I'm banging it right. They play that at the top.

Strip clubs. You know that I do you somebody. He was singing that motherfucker, wasn't he? Was he singing that motherfucker? He was singing that motherfucker. This just gave me a great idea in his copyright. Why is there not karaoke strip clubs? That would be so much fun.

Holy shit. Copyright this right now. Who singing? The strippers or you? Both. Just like a duet. Yeah. for sure.

Hole? She's showing hole. Oh my God. Singing to the hole. When the last time you had sex? It's been a while, baby, Dee. I could tell. My loins are full. That like made my stomach out.

This might be the first time I've ever been like uncomfortable and this was my lawn. Because my loins are full? Why are you worried about my loins? I'm not. I was never even thinking about them until you just just entered the chat. Do we have voicemail? Can you just imagine a stripper being butt-ass and you and her just singing fire and desire? Like she's smoking Tina's part.

No, you got to be Tina. What? She got to talk to you. She got to talk to you crazy. She's Rick. Yeah, she's Rick. She got to come and talk crazy. Why is the Nick striper Rick and why am I Tina?

Fuck it. Let the stripper be Rick James or once. You know what I'm saying? Let her talk her shit, get her shit off. Yeah, man. we definitely need to copyright that for sure before the Saudis buy it we need to do strip club carryouties for sure the Saudis the Saudis going to have Nikki and Cardi in the ring for the right price

you know spring spring 2026 watch what the Saudis do they're going to offer a bag none of them can turn down 600 million fight now yo all right yo what cool you think Nikki is you cool you think Nikki is And Cardi ain't training for that 600 them. First of all, with Saudi money, that's a steal. Only 600 million? What? Man, they're going to make it happen on Netflix.

Watch just to see. I mean, listen, man, they bought golf. And as of this week, I believe the Saudis have officially bought comedy. Anytime we laugh, we owe a royalty to the Saudi government. Really? So the Saudis did their comedy festival, which has been... Are they allowed to laugh? That's why everyone was a little.

nervous, Conan. The casual racism. I'm just saying under the hijabs, you don't know who's laughing. How do you know who's laughing? You don't know who's laughing. Now, take this all the way there. Fuck it. If we're going, like, fuck it.

I'm just saying, how do you know who's laughing under the hijabs? That's all I'm saying. So, that's the lineup? Yes. They got Chris Tucker? Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hart. Oh, my God. Louis C.

Oh, my God. That's the greatest lineup ever. This was for like, one of their kids' 12th birthday or something. This wasn't even like a festival. This was just the backyard, backyard party. Yo, this is crazy. Okay, but this has started the debate throughout the entire week.

Wait, is that my- Bill Burr's there as well? They got Bill Burt? Shane Gillis turned this down and they said they kept upping the price to end seven figures. So you can only imagine what everyone else on this, this bill got. Wow. We had Chris of Seveno on this podcast. podcast, twice I want to say.

Or we've been on his, whatever. I don't think we'll ever see Chris again. I believe he belongs. He belongs to the same. Chris, it was great knowing you. Chris, it was great knowing you. Chris, you're amazing. Congrats on the garden.

Congrats. Congrats, Chris. We'll never see you again. That's crazy. That line up is sick. I mean, it had me conflicted throughout the last few days. More than 50 of the best comedians? Sheesh.

Where do you land on this? Because I started thinking, all right if if net and yahoo offered this podcast a fuck you number a blank check filling number i would still personally if you guys want to go cool i would say no then then i started thinking about saudi money and i all my morals just started to just collapse something about any slavery that everything you could do with that with that all that money it's not my fight me going's not going to change anything yeah oh you became one of those yeah for burking you become one of those two.

Saudi Birken and a Cardi Burkin. Two different Burk. Lewis C.K. and Lotto got two totally different Burkins. I just want to make that very clear. Wow. It did have a lot of the comedy community revolting a bit.

And you guys know I love Bill Byrne. I stand by his messages of hating billionaires and getting rid of them. And I guess Bill chose his words correctly because he did take money from trillionaires. just not billionaires. Mm. See?

A lot of people look hypocritical in this entire thing with what they preach. We call it manifestation. That's what Bill Burr calls it. Manifestation, Rory. You see? And who am I to judge? I'm sure what they offered Bill Burr, who's already a multi,

multi, multi, multimillionaire. I'm sure it was an insane number to get him to do that. Oh my God. Imagine the accommodations. Imagine where they're going to be staying at over there. It's in Saudi Arabia? Yeah.

Oh my God. They're staying at the palace. But then I was thinking like, all right, everyone gets booked for club bookings in Dubai. They shit on a hooker and go home and no one says no one's the wiser. Like no one says anything. Beyonce has done the weddings. Rihanna's done the carnivals.

Like, I mean, I don't know. At what point do you just give in and say it's not my fight? When they call and they give you a peek at what that wire transfer is going to look like. You know what? I understand. I understand. I get it. I understand it's not my fight. I watched proudly as a young teenager, wide-eyed, just looking at the world, an idol like Dave Chappelle, take a stance against what was wrong

with Comedy Central, Viacom, comedians, black comedians at that, showrunners. Walked away from 50 million, right? What was it, 50? Walked away from 50 million. In the early 2000s, he walked with 50. They put out a press release that said he was smoking crack in Africa. man then he showed up with a recorder in San Francisco and tried to get his career back in a park yeah and I watched him fight all the way to get the money he deserved in the right way the longer journey then this morning the Saudis call watched Dave Chappelle put his hands in what I don't know it was sand I don't know what the fuck ritual it was yeah yeah yeah and then go like this and then I

watched Kevin Hart who was in line yeah yeah I know and do the same fucking thing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. With no explanation of what it meant. Mind your business. I've been very critical of Israel. I hate when they do their PR press runs where they're like, oh, come to Israel. When Leor Cohen thought Chuck D. was anti-Semitic, let's get him on a first-class flight to the Holocaust Museum, take him to Israel. We'll go by the wall.

We'll kiss it. I think the Saudis have done a trade in PR teams. Yes. I don't know what this ritual is. That means the wire. But I know Bill Clinton put on a yarmaca and kissed a wall. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh shit. Oh, it happened already. It's currently happening. Dave went on stage a couple days. Bill Burr already did. Dave got in early before niggas changed their mind. Dave said, I want to be the first to go. Yeah, second day.

Second day, Dave, that's a new name. Dave ain't waste no time. He don't want production to have an issue. He's like, yo, that Wyatt. It, yo, let me get out of it. I forgot what comedian it was. They showed footage. He was holding the hand of a Saudi.

No, no, I'm not joking. Josh, please look this up. You got to hold my hand in. Go to KFC from Barstool. Shout out to KSC on his page. There was a comedian. Like, he was in prison. Yeah, yeah, hold my hand.

Like his pocket was out. And he had to hold the pocket. Yeah. Go to his Instagram. So there's certain things of like, but I don't know. Are they getting, in early because we're going to be owned by the Saudis eventually.

Josh is still on Twitter. I just want to let y'all know that. Instagram. You said go to Instagram four times. God damn it, Josh. It's times like this that all of us can sit back and because we are not famous enough or in demand enough where our morals could be questioned,

we get to critique everyone else that does it. That's the hand in the sand. Second day day. There he go. Hand in the sand. But do you think they explain? what the ritual was. They don't have to. The wire hit. You don't understand what I'm telling you.

I wouldn't give a fuck what was happening after that wire hit. Y'all ain't got to tell me shit. What time do I, would y'all need me on stage? Look at Kev. Look at Kev. Look at Kev. Look at Kev. Look at Kev. Two watches. Look at these niggas. Look at these niggas. Yeah, I ain't mad at. Hey, listen, man.

Go get that fucking back. I ain't mad at. None of you niggas. Yeah. All right. Maybe I would do the sand ritual, just don't explain to me what it is because if those are like the ashes of the slaves you literally just slaughtered, I don't want to know that part. But I don't know if I'm holding Nav's hand

and walking around in the way that they have been parading these comedians. You said Nav? Wait till the move. The guy looked like Nav. Yeah, he thought he was just going to shake his nose. Take my hand. Now let me walk you and show you. That was Dana White?

He's not even a comedian, but you know the Saudis is buying the octagon. Yeah, you know what you think? What do you think the next UFC is going to be? We're going to sell this government to the Saudis. Going to. Going to? Did you just say going to?

Thought it was going already. What is going on in the world? Man. Listen, man, times is hard. People broke. Saudis got it. He's going to be out of here too. Wait to wait to the Saudi see what peas could do with a Photoshop.

He's out of here too. He's going to go holding a half of him. hands and rubbed this in. Especially on this PR surge that they're doing, the Photoshop. Yeah. That Pige could do for that PR company. Oh, my God. Pige could photos. Saudis, slaves?

Oh, my God. That's just propaganda. Wow. Then I saw a lot of like star Spangled Banner people like, these are the people behind 9-11. Why would you ever do that? Well, you do comedy in America. What?

No one's mad at any comedian at the cellar right now. You're right. They were behind it as well. Oh, my God. Wow. Listen, man, you got to do what you got to do, man. You can still have, you know, your beliefs and stand on business, but sometimes that wire transfer just look too good, man.

You got to kind of go over there and just tell some jokes. So fuck it. Let's all laugh. At the end of the day, how comedians were formed, they were gestures for the king. I wonder what Cory Holcomb thinks about this. Why don't you have Cory Hockem go do that? See, that's the comedian they'd be needing at these types of events. Shout to Corey Hocom.

Yeah, they'd be needing like Cory Hocom's over there. Go get Cory Hocom and bring him over there and see if they laugh. and what Corey got to say. Corey would go over there, turn that shit upside down. Have you ever watched Tim Dillon? Comedian, he's a great podcast, one of the biggest patrons of all time as well. So Tim Dillon was one of the first people to accept the Saudi money.

And immediately, while everyone was like, oh, I'm a little worried, went to brag on his podcast about taking, I believe, the $375,000 that he was offered. And he said, I don't care that they have slaves. I'm going over there. And then they said, Tim, you are no longer allowed. out here, give us back that money.

True? Yeah. Wow. And that's why a lot of people are now condemning Bill Burr outside of his stances before with billionaires and everything that's going on in Saudi Arabia. He went on his podcast and just talked about how amazing. It almost felt like a script. And even when Chris landed, they put the camera right in his face. He was like, this is the greatest place ever. Yeah, I bet.

But Tim Dillard, first person to take that. I bet it's the latest place ever. I don't care what they doing over there with slaves or shit. They were like, you are no longer invited, sir. See, I want to hear what Corey Holcomb and Kat Williams think about this. I want to hear their next hour and a half special. Yeah, I want to hear Corey Hocom and Kat Williams hour and a half special about everybody that went over there to do that comedy festival.

That's what I want to hear. That's what I'm looking forward to. Man, Cory Hockeman would be hilarious over there. They would probably behead him. Oh, Corey not making it back. The shit, he would say he's not making it back. Corey know he wouldn't make it back. Because they gave a list of like certain things you couldn't say like stuff about religion, stuff about

Oh. Corey would have looked at that list and said these are all. A list of what they can't say? Yeah. Oh, wow. Here's, all right, here's my thing. At a comedy club, I don't think there should ever be rules per se on what you cannot. There's no rules in comedy, man.

But if you book somebody, if I book a comedian for my private birthday party, if I'm hiring someone you, I think you have the right to say what you would want somebody to speak about that you're hiring. But if you're complaining at a comedy club of what someone says, you show up to a comedy club. Like, shut up. This isn't for you. This is for the... Yeah, but you can't give it from me. But if you hire somebody, I feel like you're allowed to... Man, you can't give a comedian a list of things he can't say. Like, I didn't like when Tom Brady was telling anybody not to talk about Bill Belichick at his roast. No, I think it was Robert, it was Robert Kraft in the massage thing. Yeah, but like, it's right there. That's a layup.

Yeah. But comedian, that's like gold. That's like, where you, I can't. Jeff Ross still said something. And then Brady say, oh, shut the fuck up. Yeah, I mean, yeah, come on, Tom. You know, we got a light rob. We got to.

We got to light rob up. We have to. Yeah, man. Some of the greatest comedians in the world, we can't say nothing about the guy that's sitting right here. And we have probably 45 minutes worth of content for him. A billionaire that went to, I don't know, maybe I would guess $50 an hour. He went to a strip mall to get a massage.

A strip. He pulled him. He could have got a slushy right. next door like what the widow are you doing here you could have the presidential suite at the ritz carton and have fucking tin masseuses show up like you came here but they don't get the nucks and crannies like the strip mall one does shit i know a girl for the robber craft and she'll get every nuk and cranny of every nigga that's staying in that hotel for that robin craft money i mean sometimes when you get to that level

you got to find ways to stay grounded yeah like you know some i love ramen i can afford other stuff but sometimes i just got to heat up some ramen just to keep keep my at bay, humble myself. And sometimes when you get to that level and you're at the point where you're on islands where they're sacrificing children for your sexual pleasure, sometimes you've got to go back to your roots to the strip mall, 50 bucks, including the tip to get jerked off. That means you too horny. Sometimes you have to humble yourself. See you were getting too horny get you? When you at a certain level you can't. When you add a certain level, you can't get too horny. You're going to get in trouble. Oh for sure. I mean the downfall.

Robert Crash didn't have never been at that strip mall to that bum ass massage spot. Come on, fan. You're that horny? Listen, man. There was plenty of other women besides Tony's sister. Sometimes men just get too horny and sacrifice everything. That's a fact. Well, speaking of being jerked,

Ray J, man. Same sword they knight you, would they go in good knight you? That's only half if they like you. Now, we had brought this up last episode, but we took it out. Because we needed, it was that sensitive of a topic that we needed more information. We didn't want to just jump out there. Right. We needed more things to happen.

But I did say when we're talking about the whole, you know, Ray J. saying there's a Kardashian-Riko coming down and there's nothing he can do to stop it. Whatever Ray J. said, I said, Ray got to be careful because that ain't something you just throw out there and play with. And I don't know if the Kardashians is going to sit back and just let that, you know, Ray J. say that. And now here we are today. Take it away, Rory.

he is now being sued by Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner for his comments over the RICO claims on his live stream. I try to say, listen, man. And here's the thing when you're dealing with people with this type of money, they may lose the case, but they're just going to make his life a living hell and just have to pay for more lawyers and go to court. Sometimes people just sue you knowing they're going to lose just to irritate you. Yeah.

Because they have more money to play with than you do. And their attorney, when their attorney filed the lawsuit, he said, Chris Jenner and Kim Kardashian have never bought a defamation claim before, nor have they ever been distracted by the noise. But this something, this false and serious allegation left no choice. For them to have never sued for defamation before. It's insane. Bro, that's like if Jay Z and Beyonce finally start suing people for the shit,

people would be saying about them. That's insane. Everybody not playing what they name. Yeah. Everybody not playing. And that's the thing that people got to start understanding. standing. Everybody is not playing with their name. You're not going to just say what you want to say about me, about my family, and make these claims that are absolutely false. And it just be like,

okay, we'll keep scrolling and let it just, everybody is not playing that role. Some people will take it to court. And they do have some of the best lawyers in the country. And like you said, now your life is fucked up. You got to go to court. You got to spend this money. For what? Just because you decided to say something that you was chasing a moment, a viral moment, and you wanted what you were saying to just be on every blog. Everybody not playing the blog game with their name. And that's what people don't understand. So listen, man.

Can you imagine being in court for the first time the Kardashians have ever sued for defamation? You're sitting waiting for the judge to come in. You're just scrolling on your phone going through Kanye West timeline that they never sued. Insane. Can I pull up some Kanye tweets about the Kardashian family? Insane. But everybody's not playing. defamation is like case closed you got to understand the timing of it all is ricko case is coming down on

anybody. Kim and Chris ain't playing with that. We're not playing with that. You're not going to don't put our name in any of that. Don't attach our name to no claims of a RICO case coming down. We're not playing with that. So now you have to go to court and deal with the consequences. And it's fucked up because, you know, they have history.

They, you know, have a lot of history. And I'm sure they still have a lot of love for each other. But probably not. Well, yeah, probably not. Just ex-business partners. Ex-business partners is crazy. My favorite part of the whole thing, though, is where I do feel for Ray J here is he showed compassion. He said there was nothing he could do, which means he tried.

He tried everything he could do to stop this Rico from him. Oh, they tried the eye-headed first record into this as part of his antagonistic behavior? Traces back to 2013. Wow. Oh, yeah, so they just not. They, they like, all right, bro, enough is enough. That's what this is. And wait till Kim represents herself.

Man, Kim got a lot of niggas out of prison, boy. Right there. Yo, we kept the file. She got a lot of niggas pardoned. Yeah. Yeah, Ray, you might be in trouble. Scootty bikes can't get you out of this one. I will say, young thug lifestyle playing in court was one of the funniest clips I've ever seen.

If, in fact, they play, I hit it first. Does California allow cameras in their courts? Yeah. Does California? You didn't see the OJ crowd? The fuck? What are you talking about? And somehow the Kardashians are involved in that too.

The gender, Jesus Christ. Yeah, Ray, you're in trouble. Can you imagine that footage of I hit it first playing in a courtroom? Oh. Okay. Wait, words are important. He said the federal RICO I'm about to drop on Chris and Kim is about to be, Okay. Okay. All right. All right. That's different. The federal RICO, I'm about to drop.

But you're still saying the feds is coming. There's nothing I can do about it. But he's saying he's about to drop it. So then if he's dropping, if he is dropping a RICO, the feds are coming. Nobody besides the state and the federal government can drop a RICO. I understand that. I can't show up. I trust me. I know that. And be like, yo, all y'all? I'm just saying once he said,

So on me now. Once he said the Federal Rico, I'm about to drop on Chris and Kim is about to be crazy. The feds is coming. There's nothing I can do about it. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to go to court for that. We can't just throw that out there like that. Yeah. Well, Ray, listen, man. Ray got some paper. He got some money. He got hired a good lawyer. Does he have battled Chris and Kim money?

I don't know. Because only the Saudis have that. Yeah. Well, Ray got to go do some jokes. he got to go touch the sand and hold hands he has to hope that the prince loves one wish he got to talk to french montana you know try to figure out something over there

right man yeah man right that's my that's my god i fuck with ray jay but yeah yeah i want him on the show yeah yeah yeah right man he's up there with one of my right we love you man like but daw what's up man what you doing bro what you this is this is bad this is bad you know kim and chris kind of had it out for you for a few years man this is bad man and what's tough with defamation cases

is you have to somehow prove that the person is intentionally lying like sometimes I could say something false about somebody and they can't really sue me for defamation because I thought it was true. Yeah, you just don't know the fuck you talk about it. Exactly. I'm just stupid. I know Ray J. can't drop a RICO case

and he knows that. So this may be a kind of like clean, cut and dry defamation case. Yeah. The Kardashians here. Can Ray, is he allowed to, like, so they're suing Ray or they're just taking them to court for defamation? Yeah. So, like, what will be the penalty? I don't know.

I don't have that. Yeah, probably some type of fee. He would have to pay something. Yeah, you don't go to jail for that. Man, Ray got to settle out. He got to settle out. Don't go to court. She's probably, yeah, my bad.

I'm sorry, how much I need for me to never say your name again. Just go that route, Ray. Get out of there quick, man. I just hope Wack 100 does a clubhouse live from the court. Oh, you know he got the text messages. He's going to be the stenographer. Yo, Wack is the stenographer. The Wack 100 coverage of the Ray J trial is going to be the greatest thing of all the...

Another guest I want here is Wack 100. Shout to Wack 100. So can we have Wack and Ray on here just to talk about this case? Yo, Wack and Ray, man. What's up? Coming to New York, man. We got to talk to you. We got some things to talk about.

Well, we pay over $100,000 a year in insurance just in case we get sued. I think we have a little buffer. Let's get Ray and whack on the pot. You got to have Ray, yeah. And have some conversation. We got to talk, man. So what's the point of having insurance if you don't use it? Exactly.

So to clarify for defamation, you can still sue somebody for defamation if they said something wrong and they believe this true if they didn't fact check. So like, for example, if I looked up an article and an article says something wrong and then the article was later redacted and I repeated it, you can't really sue me because Rolling Stone told me it was true. But if I say something and it's wrong. and I didn't look it up. I don't have proof of fact checking.

Whether I believed it was true or not, it still can be sued for defamation. But that's what I'm saying. Once you said the Federico, I'm about to drop, like, once you start talking like, oh, are you about to drop a Federative? Okay.

You're playing with something dangerous. All right, here we go. We'll see you in court. Who got Shapiro on it? I mean, who they got Shapiro? He was at Thanksgiving. They got Shapiro on Retainer. Yeah.

Alan Dirkowitz or whatever his name is? Yeah. You know, that was a crazy, crazy law thing. Like, when you go back to that. Insane. Of how that had. That was the real dream team. Oh, for sure.

It's crazy that, like, a wide left field goal, like, legitimately changed the world. Mm-hmm. Like, that brought us to OJ, to TMZ, to everything has changed because somebody missed a field goal. Yeah. It's, to me, it's COVID and that. that's those of your two. OJ trial, as far as things completely, all right, yeah, OJ trial, 9-11, COVID.

And I'm really not even trying to be funny. Like, the entire world changed as far as media goes because of that OJ trial. Everything changed. But it's so funny, what's so funny about that is, if that OJ shit happened today, nobody would even, that wouldn't even be like the top story. The things that we see happen.

No, we're talking about OJ, like if. What? We've seen people way bigger than O.J. Simpson go through shit now. We don't even keep up with their court cases. If Magic Johnson slaughtered his wife in a waiter, you don't think that would be like top story? In 2025? Yes. Yes. Fuck no. We would look at that shit and keep scrolling. You sound fucking insane. We would not care about nobody give. They showed us fucking aliens. They pulled out two cornish ends and none of you niggas said anything. Because they were two corons. They just showed us shooting a fucking Tomahawk missile at a UFO. No

Nobody said nothing. Because nobody, because nobody gives a fuck. That's my point. That's not, first of all, we sat up here and everybody was talking about the fucking ditty case the entire fucking trial, the same way niggas was seated for the whole jail. Oh, by the way, who gets sentenced today now, if y'all listening to this, he's being sentenced today. Oh, really?

I thought I got pushed. No, I think it's, did it? I could be wrong. I don't quote me. I thought they said it was Friday. This Friday. Oh, shit, okay. Well, yes, if Magic Johnson, and I hate just to throw the.

this on a second. If he, poor cookie. Bro, we shot a hellcat at a UFO and the UFO kept moving and nobody said anything about it. It happened in the battle of Los Angeles as well and they kept it moving. But no, we saw footage of the Hellcat, like being fired at the UFO.

4,000 rounds. Nobody said nothing. All right, man. If Magic Johnson did that, it would be 24 hour coverage in Fox News, all the headlines would be, is this transviolence because his son is trans? That's how it was. See, that's not fair.

See, once you tie that into it, of course, it's going to be headlines. It would have nothing to do with Magic Johnson and his actions. It would just be, well, where was his son? Just like the OJ case. Yeah, I guess. Because Demaris thinks the son did it. Do you? I do.

OJ. Son? I'm not mad at that theory. I think he covered for his son. And I think that's why he made it so fake. Well, what if I did do it? I think all of that is a distraction. I think he knows his son did it.

Nah, him and his man. Nah, bro. Him and Charlie did it. Charlie's a real person that. lives in Miami currently, by the way. Like, he's alive. Chilling. They found Charlie, like his full government.

I don't want to make that. Like, that book was not fiction. It was an autobiography of the events that happened. And he didn't even change Charlie's name. Oh, my gosh, man. Jesus Christ. Well, yeah. Anyways, prayers to Ray J.

Chris. No, I think I'm going to really pray. Like, we say that a lot, but I think I'm going to really pray for it. Yeah, I'm gonna pray for Ray J, man, because that's my, that's my nigga. I love to fuck with Ray J, man. So praying for Ray J, man, because I, yeah, yeah, too much talking on the live streams, came back to invite him in his ass. At that point, like, I'm going into court just, how do we settle in some degree?

But see, that's why I say life is crazy. Because Ray J. on his last live stream told us that asses was being taken in ways we can't imagine. Nobody said nothing. He didn't go. He didn't say who asked. You can't, if he would have said, I'm about to drop a federal. Rico on some famous motherfuckers, that's different.

Once you start saying people names, if he would have said somebody ass was being taken, then, you know. Cusha, score, score for Demaris. We have specifics. Yeah. Ain't my ass being taken, but somebody asks. Ass is just being taken. Mm-hmm.

Pierce Morgan put Jaguar right on his cable TV show. Anything's possible. He didn't give a fuck. No, he gave a fuck. You ain't heard from Jaguar since, did you? Yeah, I ain't heard from Jaguar. Yeah, where's she been? Where did she been?

Where Jay Tola to go? Don't play with me Don't play with me You're buying into her theories That rock nation is going to kill her You've seen the imagery You are with rock nation Rock nation in Israel

Israel below either I was just up Just up in the building Paying my ties How you think I got this shirt I'm here Rory! This is a hockey shirt

You ain't touched the sand You see I put a different vinyl up there Yeah No I walked right into It's a rock nation You got to touch the sand like this though Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. It's simple.

It's clean. It's packed with new promos every day, starting with your first bet. New customers can place a $5 bet. And if it hits, you get not only your winnings, but also $150 in extra bonus bets. I like that. This coming Monday, it's Jets in Miami. They're both 0 and 3. So have a blast betting on that one.

Somebody's owes got to go. Somebody's old. Somebody's going to win. So clearly someone's going to win. So bet with hard rock bet. Download the app right now. Make your first deposit today. Payable and bonus bets,

not a cash offer. Offered by the Seminole tribe of Florida and Florida. Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia to play. Terms of conditions apply. Concerned about gambling.

In Florida, call 188, admitted. In Indiana, if you were someone, one you know has a gambling problem and wants help call 1-800-9 with it. Gambling problem, call 1-800 gambler, Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,

this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brain. new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing

something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jette. And I'm Alex English.

Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you for finishing that sentence.

Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars.

And now, I guess also as the co-host of the away end, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist. And John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, it's hope, it's hard. heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramos sending on to Ernie Stewart the Chip. I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines.

I'm not worried about Polisic. I'm not worried about Balligan. I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us.

Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. Hi, Dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen. She says, I have some cookies and milk. This is a badass convict. Right.

Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at him. Yeah. On the Ceno Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to bench featuring powerful conversations with the guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic. and without this trouble, I'm going to die.

Open your free IHR radio app. Search the Cito Show and listen now. All right, do we have voicemails? You've got mail. Sir, sponsored by Boost and Rock Nation. Love the pod. Just want to start with that. Arthur, just wanted to ask the pod a quick question

because I love y'all dearly. everyone perspective has helped me and gained a perspective on how to get in line for what's for you y'all speak from a very pure and honest

perspective and I really really appreciate that everything that you're put in my question is this how do you do a rejection when you know you have been qualified or it's just not working

in the page or space, how do you just deal in that situation and make it work? Thank you all. Appreciate y'all. Hopefully, this helps me and other people. Keep doing what y'all doing? Love. All right, so he's asking, how do you deal with rejection?

Yes. If, for example, there's a position that you know you are qualified for and deserve, yet you don't get it. Now, me being white. You blame that on DEI. No? Oh, my bad. Okay. Well, I mean, for, yes, half of the country, that is usually their go-to when it comes to certain things.

All the Navy pilots that don't get a job because they wanted to give it to a black woman that was cleaning up. You know, your crew in D.I is some of the dumbest shit I've. ever heard of my entire week. Holy shit. They didn't deserve. You know what it takes to be a pilot? Oh my God. Jesus Christ.

They just letting anybody? Well, shit, the Saudis did. Yeah. And we harbor them in America. And then they made impossible turns to fly into the Pentagon. Give this man some advice. Mine is a little, I guess, cliche and maybe won't hit when you're in the moment of rejection and feel like, fuck, how am I going to get a job? There's been plenty of.

of shit, label rolls, when I was still working corporate of stuff, I did not get that I thought I deserved and it stung and it sucked. But now in retrospect, I see that a lot of those opportunities would have put a ceiling on my entire life. A lot of stuff I wanted to get would have fucked me over in the long run. Like there was a time when I was working for shy that all I wanted to see, my dream would have just been a fucking A&R at Def Jam. Couldn't have thought of anything better in my life than that. Now, I'm not shitting on anyone that works at a label. I think that's great.

I think the vice president or president, that's an incredible gig. Knowing myself now, that being a ceiling for me would have been the wrong path. So a lot of the rejection I got of things that I thought I wanted, I can now see, was a blessing that I did not get those things.

Able to work for myself now, get to work with you guys, have the freedom to be creative and do what I want, when I want. It still work, of course. But had I not been rejected from a lot of the things I thought I wanted, I wouldn't have had to regroup and find the things that were actually better for me in that regard. So many gigs that if I would have gotten them,

man, I'd be sitting here. And again, no disrespect to a salary or whatever, but I would have been getting way less money in a city that is too expensive for anyone to fucking live. where the ceiling at most is a vice president gig, where a salary is not going to move, no matter what you do for that company. Yeah. I wasn't right for it, and they said,

fuck out of here. And I'm glad they did because I wasn't. Yeah. I don't know if that would have been something that I would have wanted to do in the long run. Rejection is good. We need rejection. You need something,

even if you feel like you're qualified and that job was for you, sometimes you need that, no. You need that moment to kind of like think, figure things out, pivot. People are scared of rejection. Rejection means that you try something and it didn't work this time. It doesn't mean it's never going to work or it's never going to happen for you. Let's take this as a lesson.

Take this as time to sharpen your skills and work on things that you may need to work on. And time in, time in too. Time is an important aspect that people don't allow to. happen as much as they should. Maybe that just wasn't the position for you. That wasn't the job for you. That wasn't yours. And that's okay. Like, you know, if it's for you, it'll find you. Just keep, your job is to keep working and to keep becoming better and things that you need to work on with yourself and professionally, personally. And it'll happen eventually. When it does, your job is just be prepared for it. Yeah. And use these rejections to pivot and get new perspective. Yeah.

I wasn't necessarily rejected from St. Peter's College. I was politely asked to leave. But in that moment... You actually come back and you were rejected. In that moment, I feel like I'm royally fucked up. I had a full track scholarship and I got fucking kicked out because of my temper. Yeah. But at that exact same time, went to another school.

We practiced at 6 a.m. instead of 2 p.m. where I did at St. Peters. I was then able to go intern at Def Jam because I didn't have to have track practice in the middle of the fucking end. Which then led to everything else and, you know, down goes the waterfall from there. But timing. Yeah.

Like, I thought, shit, I cannot believe I just fuck this up. It opened an opportunity where I had more freedom to do what I actually wanted to do. Like, is it great to be a communications major at St. Peter's College? Sure. I think that's great.

Anyone that graduates from college, I think that's a great accomplishment. But I didn't find purpose until I got rejected from there and went somewhere else. Right. So, yeah, you have to make the most of those moments and not get down about it and feel like, oh, fuck, if I got rejected from this, what's my worth than anything else? It's maybe not for you. Yeah.

So, you know. Well, hopefully that helps you. And again, man, you know, if it's for you, it's going to happen. Don't worry about it. Rejection is not permanent. It's just right now temporary. Eventually things will happen for you, especially when you're ready for him. So don't trip too much, man.

And I mean, I don't know, is he also getting rejected from a person? Or was he just going job all the way through on there? I think he was just doing job. But that could have been, like, coded because he didn't want to say rejected from a girl. Ah. Or are they, you know, whatever his thing is? being rejected by somebody personally

has always been funny to me what do you mean funny how because when it's happened to me it wasn't funny but it is funny I mean you might not think it's funny because your ego

but like when you really sit back and think that somebody was like nah I'm cool that's some funny that's just some funny shit like yo what you mean I can't take you to dinner like you don't want to eat

like you're not hungry First of all, not getting a job because of qualified or not qualified is one thing. Somebody rejecting your existence, it's a different type of thing. That's funny to me. Like, yo, what you mean we can't go to dinner? Like, nah, like, I know some pretty nice spots. Like, no, I, fuck it. But do you even want to be around a person that immediately rejects you?

Like, to me, that's, and again, this comes with time because trust me, I have an ego, I'm fragile, all that. There's been times I was rejected and felt sad about it. But now it's like, why would I? But why you felt, why would I even want to... Why did you feel sad, though? Ego. 100%. It had nothing to do with, like, me, like, I didn't even know the person like that.

Right. Because when you get rejected, you don't really know. You don't know the person. Why are you putting that much into it? Like, this person, I don't even know the person. It's all self-ego. It's all ego, that shit is all ego-driven shit. And that would, I'm a sit there trying to convince someone that out the gate,

their first impression is they see me and go, nah. I'm not going to convince that person. Nah, I don't want to go out with you. I'm cool. Damn, all right. Fuck it. But that's what I feel like. high school and like puberty and just all that like really teaches you and like we would walk in

the cafeteria and women would just immediately in their head go no you just got to live with that that is hilarious with a developing brain of like not knowing anything that's why next is a greatest show ever man they got to bring that back they just got off the bus and they'd be like next i didn't even say nothing no it's moved on to popping a balloon fuckers come out there and they're fine this garment and you pop pop pop up. God damn. That shit is the funniest shit in the world, man.

You just walk in the room and niggas start popping a balloon? You know how crazy? I don't think there's anything wrong with that though. No, it's not. It's like, but it's just funny. It's like, somebody see you and be like like, like maybe that shit, you know what?

That might be a skit for us. Like, we just go outside people that walk past we just pop a balloon. No, I hate when people do it like in text message. Like, because I've sent like my home girl back when I was single. I sent my home girl, picture this guy. I was like, what you think? And that bitch just sent me a balloon and like a pen, like the emojis. Oh my God.

I'm like, dog, all right, cool. That's fine. That is some, that is just, that is the idea that is just hilarious to me. I have another voicemail, but it's not a voicemail. But I have, it was an email that was sent. Okay. It's going to be quick. All right. Because I know you guys, so I know what you're going to say. But this girl said, hey, I'm sorry for emailing you.

I tried to ask a question on the link for the pie, but I don't want my husband to hear my voice. I try to change it so many times. it didn't work. If you see this, I would love for you to ask the policy. She was trying to talk like a federal witness. Yeah. He's like, hey there, Rurie and Moll. He's in the Ray J. Rico. Yeah. She says, I have been married for five years now and it's been great, but it's been one little thing. He won't let me have his past cold. He cheated early on in the relationship, but we got back together. Obviously, it hasn't been easy, but he's worth it. Just wanted to ask y'all what y'all think. Well, I also love her logic here. So I assume she didn't want to do

a voicemail because her husband also listens to the show, didn't want any of the voice. That was so specific. I'm sure her husband is, like, well, this is about me. Yeah. Man, you could have just said it. Yeah, he could have just said that. Like, um, yeah. She wants to pass code to his phone, but he won't give it to her. Yeah.

And he got caught cheating previously. And they're married and have been for five years. If he hadn't been caught cheating, I would say no, because even if you have nothing your phone, like, there needs to be boundaries and like, if I'm just giving you my phone for no reason, where does it end? But if you got caught cheating and you're married, you got to give that pass code over. Like, see, I'm just, you have to. I'm different. Like I would give my girl my pass code. Sure. Like, because I'm not cheat. I wouldn't

give a fuck. But there's still things in my phone. Like, my homeboy might be going through something with his girl or something or, you know what I'm saying? It's like, now you read that. It's like, I don't want you to know that about my homeboy. Like, that's what it's not more so that I'm cheating. It's like, now you're reading shit that my homeboy going through. You know what I'm saying? Like my other friends might be. It's like, that ain't for you to know. Yeah. And if people saw, like, the memes and videos, Maul and I DM each other, I don't think our... I wouldn't have a job.

If we had significant others, would think too highly of us. Yeah. I don't think they need to see that. Everyone I've dated has had a great image of Maul that I'd like to keep. And if they saw some of the... Yeah, if they saw the memes that I sent P, we'd cancel tomorrow. That was always, that was always... You can see the stuff between me and J. Electronica.

Oh, my. I forgot about that. I got... Matter of if I got to delete that text thread, man. Let me delete that. that shit now. I always, that was always my main thing when it's like, don't go through my phone. My home, I have, my home girl send me nudes for approval. You don't need to be going through my phone. Now, having my past call because it's like if something like, yo, can you grab, can you answer my phone or can you? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Your girl, home girl send you news for approval to send to a guy?

Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah. But it'd probably be better if a man was a better second reference with it. Yeah, it should be another layer of like, yeah. Yeah, no, they should definitely like, they should definitely approve like, yeah, approve, approve, get their news that they're sending to their man approved by another nigga for sure. Yeah. That makes that sense. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's like a two-step. He said too-fat girl. Too-factor. With the Google code. Okay. Is it inappropriate? Because I've heard specifically, unfortunately, Maw's name before, women will send dick picks in their group chat

to other women. Is that inappropriate if one of your home girls is in a relationship? I'm sure there's some men that would think so. If I went through my girl's phone and went through her group chat and even if obviously she's not asking to see somebody's dick pick, but if it's in there like, yeah, what the fuck? They don't respect that you in a relationship and dicks shouldn't just be in your phone like this? That's when girls look at the most dicks when they're in a relationship. You just made that up.

The shit you just be making up out the corner of your ass is crazy. DeMaris, I guarantee you you looked at more dicks that you wasn't fucking when you was in a relationship then you do it's when you were single. No, but Dick gets sent to my phone because it's just... Actually, my home girls don't send dick pics to my phone because they know it freaks me out. So they don't send dick picks them dick to my. Y'all know I'm 90% gay.

I do not want to see no dick. They don't mind. Please don't send me no nigga dick. Please. I don't like women send their dicks. Please. Unless you belong to me, I do not want to see your dick. I'm cool.

I think it's a fair. I think that's such a fair thing, but it's just funny when you hear her say it. Like, all right. Like, it ain't like, I'm not one of those. I have home girls that are like so straight. They think Dick is the most beautiful thing in the world. Dick's ugly as fuck, bro. I don't, like, you're not sitting like no beautiful shit to me.

Dix is ugly. Men don't put no art into their dick pics. Like, women will do a whole production for a nude, yo. That shit looked like something that should be like hung up. Men just ashy assy ass, just dick. Like what? Move. No.

They should go, uh, what's the tune? What's the tune app? Face tune. Face tune on your... Got a face tune your meat. Face tune and the hammer pick is crazy. Try. Like, put some effort in.

Do you want to put the... What was that filter girls using? The flower... Remember the flowers on top of the head? You're gonna put that on top of it? Guess who? Putting the dog ears on your dick. Oh my God.

Yeah, you got to do some shadow work, some lighting. You got to figure it out. But does that make, I guess, men a little, as far as group chats go, a little more moral? Because I've never been in a group chat where men are sending nudes of women in. Like, yo, this bitch is sending me this nude. I've never been in that group chat. But every girl I've talked to ever says, yeah, no, our group chat should be dick picks. That's because they don't respect us, for it.

Oh, man, I know that. Starts a rejection. Yeah, just pay bills and shut up. That's what we're supposed to do. And then buy a bag when you fuck up. Exactly. Should the girl break up with her husband for not getting a pass cold? Yes, I know.

No. No, but he needs to come up off that passcode. No, she shouldn't break up with him and no, he shouldn't come up off the pass code. What? If you cheat and she stays, you got to get a pass code. No, for what? If I cheat and you stay, that's it. You stayed.

Ha! It's over. We married. Facts. You don't want to be married no more because you don't got my pass code? I'll see you in court. I bought you a bag. But this is my thing.

I bought you a bag. You know the passcode? No, but I buy you a bag. This is in this. See, Lotto stage. That's my issue with it because I don't like when I ask you something and. I don't like that. No, I know.

No, it's not about no. I don't even know what that word means. But I don't like when I ask you something and you're like, why are you making this such a big deal? Like, what are you going to leave me over? It's like, it's not a big deal. But the fact that it is so small and you won't give it to me, now it's a big deal. Like, if it's such a small thing that I'm making such a big deal over, why wouldn't you give it to me? Like, I think that that's so, that's so manipulative.

Because if there's nothing in your phone and I'm just asking. But there is something in my phone, but it's not what you're thinking. If you. I'm not cheating, but I don't want you reading like shit that my homeboys is going through. You think that he's, you think that he's not cheating? The man that got caught cheating already and still won't give the pass code. That's not fair because you can get caught cheating and never cheat again. So that's not fair.

I don't want to put that on because he got caught before me and he's definitely cheating again. He could have got scared that he was going to lose his wife and his family. Not that's scared because you're not giving that passcode up. you ain't that scared because you ain't given it. But I will say the fact that he did get court cheating before, he don't have much leverage to not give up the pass code. I think that's the most important part. Yeah.

So since I, I, it's going to bother you. It's not that you even have a pass code. But that's whack though because if he never got court cheating and he wouldn't give up the pass code, it would still be a problem. It would be a problem, but I don't think it would. So that's why. It'd be more of a problem for her asking that.

Like, why. But no matter, no matter what, it would be a problem. That's why there's no winning in that situation. Like, if he never got court cheating before and, didn't want to give up his past code, it would still be an issue. If somebody decides to stay in a relationship after cheating and wants to work on it, you have to exude a lot of effort as well because it's going to take that person, a lot of, a lot of time to earn the trust back.

But it's called insecurity, though. It means in you. You got to do the work internally. Yeah, no. No. My past code. Because my past. No, insecurity would be if I never cheated and you have baggage and you just want to go through

my phone because you're insecure with everything else. If I have done something to you, you're not insecure about it. I did it to you. That's just a reality of what's going on. You have to earn trust back in that regard. And if that says you get my MacBook, you get my computer, you have to start that process. Part of that process is seeing what the fuck you do. So my question to you is, I'm going to just get random strip search.

Like, get the fuck out of it. You want parole? Leave me. You on parole now. I'm not on parole for the rest of my life. Of course not. Of course not. If that shit continues for four fucking years, would it like, all right.

At some point, if you decided to stay, I'm knowing- That goes, Roy, it's never enough. Okay. Yeah. You know that. Once you get caught cheating, it's never enough.

You can have my pass code. Check everything. You must see it. You must have wiped this shit, you deleted it. This is what I'm saying, so it's not going through it. Because I don't even want a nigga

that's dumb enough to get caught twice. Like, I don't, fuck it. I'm not even going to go through it. Because if I go through your phone, I don't find anything, like it's like, oh, because you deleted it. So it's just, there's no point. I'm not even going to go through the shit.

Fuck it. Unfortunately. if you stay with somebody that cheated, you have to subconsciously accept that you don't really care about cheating and they're probably still cheating. And you just have to start accept, I know it sounds fucked up,

but you're kind of accepting that that's probably happening, our reality. But I think, I think that. In the back of your mind, even if you don't think you think that, you're thinking that. But I think that all cheating scenarios

are not created easily. For sure. If we're going through a hard time in a relationship and you fucked around and it slipped and fell in some pussy, it happens. And you came to me and told me that this is what happens, that's completely different from you running around having affairs

and you got caught. Like, there's a difference between a mistake and a choice lifestyle that you're making. Yeah, but if he continues, if he tells you every time he cheats, that's just... I'm not saying every time. I'm saying if you did it once and you told me when it happened and I decided to stay,

that's a completely different scenario that I caught you cheating multiple times or multiple women or cheating. multiple times with one women. Like that's completely different. Those are completely different scenario. You don't be kind of hilarious if Neil got caught cheating. Yo, she and on the three women with another is.

I thought it was four. It's three? I think it's four. Four? Four. It's four women? Or four of them total? It's four.

Yeah. Getting caught cheating on one woman is exhausting as far as anything. Imagine four women in your house that you cheated on. And they jump you? Make it. Christina Ariel Monet and Bree Oh Christina's called

Pretty Baby That's cute What Look at the stuff Demire Pretty Baby Twin Flame Phoenix Feather

And sexy little Some Nah I know everyone feels A way about Ariel Why Ariel The Twin Flame Neo is crazy

Phoenix feather Got the best pussy Oh for sure Phoenix feather Nah Sexy little Sum got the best pussy Bree

She got the best body. Bree? Yeah, she got the best. Yeah. She doesn't clean in the house. She doesn't know what you're right here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Stop thirsting over his girl, yo. I'm thirsty. I ain't thirsty. Man, I think it's a beautiful union ship. I think this is black love right here. They all black women, too, right?

I believe so. If you had four girls, imagine she. and you had four girlfriends. Yeah. That would be fucking nuts. Yeah. You just, at that point,

then you have a problem. But I mean, if you're that, well, I guess not open. What's that called a polyamory? Polyamory. So does that mean like the four of them are cool with bringing in other chicks? Or it's like, this is the five of us.

Polyamorers? Yeah. The five of them are in a relationship with each other. Gotcha, okay. But that, if you're just going off like sheer stats and numbers and probably,

if you've watched the movie 21. There's a way higher chance that someone's going to cheat if five of us are in a relationship. Like that just brings in way too many numbers. Someone's cheating. Yeah.

Statistically. I don't think it's Bree. I don't think it's sexy little something. Phoenix may have stepped out. I ain't a lot of Neil. I don't know what Neo waiting on, but he need to get this motherfucking TV show going. I'm going to watch for show.

Everybody's going to watch. You kidding? All right. Neo has kids. and I know there's been like some stuff with his baby mother and this whole thing. That's got to be wild, though. Like if one day my baby mother ended up in a relationship with four other women and a guy, and no, my kid's not allowed over there.

Well, I mean, yeah. You can't have five stepmothers. I can understand that. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. No, that's not an environment. No, I'm sorry. Yeah. And no, everyone's choices, like, live free.

Yeah. Oh, good. But, no, my kids can't be over there. I don't think I would want my teen over there. My baby, I wouldn't mind if that makes sense. Someone who's old enough to understand what's going on, I wouldn't. I wouldn't really want that. But a baby, a toddler, I actually think having four women in a house with a baby, a toddler,

I think that that's a beautiful environment. You have a whole village in the crib. Like you get mad. Nobody's never not giving you attention. Fair. But, all right, vetting one person that your child's mother or father is dating is one thing. Veting four different personality. Like, yeah, I don't know. Four, four separate people with four separate lives, four separate groups of other people next to them. Like, that's too

much involved. Like, four different families as well with their parents. There's it like, nah, that's not very Brady bunch to me. But I respect what Neil was doing. I wouldn't have the patience for it. We got to put, he need to be on the next one of the bills. We'll, he need to be on the next one of the bills. What bill is available without a president? Oh, I thought you meant like a show I was going to say the Saudis are hiring. Oh yeah, but this is what he's doing Saudi shit. This is a Saudi culture right here with

Neo doing. He just adopted the Saudi culture. That's all that is. Damn, and finding four women like that down for that? No, I think it's a beautiful thing in that regard. Yeah. Like shouts, shouts to Neo, but I don't know. What happens if like one person do you all

break up with one person if they leave? Nah. This is too messy. Nah. What if Brie just wants to dip? Yeah. Closure convos four-on-one, peach set.

Yeah, you got to talk to all of us at the same time and tell us why are you breaking this thing up. And, like, what happens if, like, Brie leaves and she moves to Miami? And Neil has a show and just happens to run into Brie, and they rekindled. Does he have to tell Phoenix? Yeah.

He has to tell him before he didn't have sex with her. Okay, but what if Phoenix is like, nah, it's cool, bring her back to the tribe, and then sexy little things like, nah. Yeah, we got to sit down and got to get on the same page. This is like Survivor. Yeah, we got to get on the same page. I respect it, man.

Yeah. I think this is something you could do more. I don't think Demaris and I are cut out for it. I think this is definitely something you could do, though. What, have four girlfriends? Yeah. Definitely. Hierarchy-wise, I'm not cut out for it.

26-year-old DeMaris could do it. No, I couldn't. I have a problem. I would have to always. So with polyamory, everybody is equal. I don't live life like that. I would have to be, me and my husband would have a girlfriend. Like there would be like there would be no, we're all equal.

Like that is fuck no. Not for me. That ego is crazy. It's disgusting. My ego is disgusting. But I'm honest about my ego and I'm honest about what I can and can't handle. I respect. I was in a thruple for two days, two days too long.

No. I'm my parents' favorite kid. Like I'm your favorite employee. I'm just not going to just Pige Zell, Pee's a lot. That's fine. Y'all don't know. You know what I'm saying?

You know, PGs. She does a lot. Yeah, so good, babe. All right, well, we'll talk about some more this shit on Patreon. Yeah, we have to get to pitchforks 100 albums. Ooh, another list. Can't wait to break this down for Patreon. Oh, I am.

They got me again. I'm furious. Are you? Yeah. All right. Let's talk about your fury. Can't breathe. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Patreon. Here we come. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep. That's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.

Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont

Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they failed. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green. Co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel on our podcast The Away End. We'll share with you the magic of international football. all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.