New Rory & MAL - Episode 412 | Men Can’t Use Cameras

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Shoutout to everyone who joined our live stream party on Friday. We do a quick recap of the highlights, and get right into Diddy getting 50 months. Rory and Mal take a guess at what will be Diddy’s first pod appearance once he’s out. Ayesha Curry went viral again, but Mal thinks y’all are making a big deal out of nothing. Loaded Lux refuses to battle rap a woman for $250K, but sign Mal up for that any day. Plus, a caller wants to know if men really are more attracted to crazy women, and more! All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Top of the week. How's everyone feeling? How are you feeling, man? I feel great. You look great. Do I really? Yeah. Oh, I feel like I look tired.

I feel like this is the best you're going to look. Oh, for sure. These are your one of the years. No, this is as good as it gets. These are your one of the years. No, you're not wrong there. You're going to look back on these years, these photos and videos, I'm like, oh, I was a stud. For sure.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think, I guess I'd have to ask Demaris because she speaks for all women. The grays are popping out, and women seem to like them. I think if I go full gray, I might, like, have a whole other. How does that happen for gins for genders? Y'all, do you, does your, like, body allow you to go gray or is it just like, genders? See, the gray is popping?

I thought that was like rust. It's like a little, you know me? It's like it's still ginger. You think my beard is rusting? I mean, it's like, you know, it's still ginger, but it's like it's just different shades of ginger. Like you know the movie Shades of Grey? Yeah.

It's like shades of ginger. Well, I mean, my body overall is confused with hair. Yeah. Black eyebrows, red hair. Yeah. It's fucking weird. It's all good, man. But, you know, other than that, it was a rough, rough weekend for the Yanks, but I'm still, I'm here.

I'm still standing with my guys. But it was a rough one. I don't even want to talk about it. It was a rough one to say the leaf. Oh, man. But I don't know. I have faith, I think. Listen, man, it's not over yet.

It's not over. We just got to get the next one. Just get the next one. That's what we tell ourselves every year. Just get the next one, man. It's all good. Speaking of which, you'll probably appreciate this. You remember when I went on the bus trip.

You have never said you would probably appreciate this and I appreciate it, by the way. No, I actually think you've, I think you will, actually. Okay. Remember I went on that bus trip where we spread ashes at Yankee Stadium and everything? You mean on Jerome Avenue, yes. Yes, of course, yeah.

So a group chat was started, like leading up to that so people could send their money, this and that. This group chat has gone so off the rails after that Yankee game. It's still happening. It's still going. Well, it's the playoffs. Yeah, naturally. I have to keep going. You would think that we'd be talking about the Yankees.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is the Black Liberation Army for all. old white guys from North Jersey. Okay. No context. Add me. Add me. That's my type of chat right there.

I'll even show you exactly where it went off the rails. It was photos from the bus trip was the last text. Then no context, no conversation. Team 47 is the man. Explanation point. Explanation point. Team 47? Who was that?

Donald Trump? Okay. Then it moves on to, I never met Charlie. Kirk, but it feels like I lost a friend. This dude was so full of life and knowledge. He was the best thing that ever came along for everyone in their 20s and 30s.

This guy is just phenomenal. How does anyone think they could ever get away with this? This Yankee group chat. I was about to say it's gone so far left. No, it's... Dude, I think... I really think my dad should be like... Behind museum glass.

I think he's the only Irish Democrat left. Your dad lives like he's behind museum glass. That's how he feels every day in his life. Like he's behind museum glass. Yo, the change is just insane. Like, everybody I grew up around was Irish Democrats. Like, after JFK, like, it was a law. Yeah.

Like I've told, which I've not exaggerated. It was Jesus, Jeter, and JFK on my mother's fucking... Yeah, on the mantle. At one point, I forgot, I must have been in like fifth or six. grave. I wrote a, like, a hero essay about like Michael Jordan. No, I think it was like Terrell Davis or some shit. Wait. My dad was so pissed. You wrote a hero essay about Terrell Davis? It was one of those like when you're in fucking elementary school that you got to fucking write like about your hero or whatever. So my dad found out that I did it on Terrell Davis and the next morning in our bathroom. Yeah.

was a picture of JFK and he wrote a sticky note that said hero. So I'm telling you, and my dad is still an Irish Democrat. Like, and even, you know, my grandfather even like fucking volunteered, Jimmy Hoff, like, the whole fucking thing. Yeah. So to see this group chat go from just a good old Yankee. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's how it happens, man. While we're all here, let's just talk about some other shit. I thought when they said all rise, they were talking about judge. I didn't know was Colin Kaepernick. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what they talk about. Add me in that groove chat, man. That's my type of chat. It's insane. I need to be in some chats like that.

But listen, if they want to idolize Charlie Kirk, that's their prerogative, that's cool, whatever. What bothered me was just a few years ago, everyone in my family referred to podcasting as being unemployed. Okay. Now a podcaster is their hero? Yeah, yeah. That's how life works. Their hero? Yeah, that's how it happens. That's exactly how it happens.

I mean, part of me was like, damn, I should probably. just get out of this group chat. But it's the funniest thing by far that is happening in my life right now is anytime I get a notification, I cannot wait to see what it said. But that's the type of, those are the type of guys that need a podcast. Like those two men, 100%. 100. They don't give a fuck.

Like that's who needs the podcast. People that don't call it like exit 11 or something, just some Turnpike shit. They don't give a fuck. Just record it, put it out. They don't care what it's doing. They don't care how many views it got. Somebody needs to hear this type of shit. Absolutely.

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We actually, on Patreon, on Friday, had an amazing live stream. I had a great time. Yes. Shout out to everybody that came through for the live stream. Shout out to Demaris's thighs and cheeks. Yes. They carry the show.

Shout out to Peach for being here at 11 a.m. and busting his ass and putting all that you guys. Shout out of Pete. Pete, I love you, man. There's nothing I'm sure that I'm sure you wouldn't do for Pete. It's nothing I wouldn't do for you, Peach. But yeah, on Patreon, we did a little DJ segment with Edin. Shout to Edding, man.

Shout to Eddick. Shout to Ed in. And condolences, his dog. passed away and I think I don't know I consider pets to be family members so condolences to Edin yes I know it's got to be rough trust me that's I cried like a baby last year when I lost mine yeah no it's it's it's tough so condolences to Edin's uh dog and and thank you for putting on a great set like I listen I got a different different level of respect for Edith now I've always respected Edom but actually seeing him DJ like in his DJ element because you know how you

don't know your free but you're a DJ you're like hi man what you'd be doing them spots up town. Just set a playlist and let it run. But no, Edin was like mixing, blending. Yeah, no,

I've seen Edon DJ before, but it was uptown at the Bronx Brewery and 99.9% of the demographic was Spanish. Yeah. So it was a lot of gasoline being played.

Yeah. Great blends or whatever. Just not, I don't need four hours of that. So I wasn't, I wasn't sure what Edon outside of that environment was, but he,

oh, he smoked it. Listen, man, he put on Al Green at one point. I looked at Ed and I was like, all right, man. Like, come on, bro. And not the regatone. remix to Al Green either. Because you know it exists. Yeah, not the single, not the single from that

Al Green album. Like, he dropped an album cut. Yeah. But thank you for everybody that came to the office party. We appreciate it. And everybody that was on the live stream in the chat, shout out to Matt from the Zoom Zoom room. He pulled up. He had a good time. Matt didn't leave until I left. Like, I left at 3 a.m. after I, like, swept and everything out there and put the garbage out. Matt left like 30 minutes before me. I didn't even know Matt was still here. He came up. He was like, I just want to thank you. I was like, you still here. We got to have a conversation. about like we got to have better team meetings because when Matt was in the party I was just like oh hey your name's what Matt okay nice to meet you it took me until the zoom I mean the stream was at eight

I didn't find out Matt was from the Zoom Zoom room until 930 I thought it was Trey at first when I walked in yo I thought it was Trey too but then he said his name was Matt I'm like okay Matt and I think all black people look at yeah you know my group chat yeah that was Matt from the zoom zoom room man but shout out to Matt for pulling up having a good time we had a nice pep talk with him as well on the live stream Because he was itching to text her. But, nah, man. So I, you had a good time. I don't know what happened with him in Tanktop Bay, one of the people that was on the stream,

because we couldn't, the people in the party couldn't hear you guys when you were talking in Mike. So we have no idea what happened over there. Well, I know we don't. Well. Oh, and when Tatea Bay set on the couch? Yes. Yeah. Oh, you know, she was just talking and saying how, you know, she was just having a good time chilling.

But with Matt. Yeah. You said something like y'all, you sit right next to her. I have no idea. Yeah, we were trying to. They were sitting next to each other, but it looked awkward when you sitting next to somebody and y'all not saying nothing to each other. It's like, bro, y'all can't, it's okay.

It's a party. Y'all can speak to each other. And when you're tall and quiet, it's also weird. Yeah. Like just being tall and you not saying anything. She's got a good job of breaking the eye. She poured a shot in Matt's mouth. Allegedly.

No, it's on stream. No, I think we changed the angle back to Eddons. Oh, you see it? Oh, my bad, my bad, Pete, you went back to editing on that one. My bad, I ain't mean to put that out there. But, no, shout out to everybody that came through, man. It was a good time. We were just encouraging Matt to get back out there.

Yeah. You know, he seemed a little down still from the situation. And, yeah, we were just trying to get him to have a conversation with a lovely young lady. Yeah. And, you know, she was honest as far as, you know, she wasn't available at that time. Mm-hmm. But I didn't think that should stop. I think Matt should hit her with what you're not allowed to have friends?

Yeah. That always worked. That always worked. Always over. work. Every time you say that, you become friends with her. Yeah, but it was a good time, man. Shout out to everybody that came through. We got to do those more often. Yeah, for sure. Have a little, you know, a little shindig in the, in the office. What, I mean, I left. What happened with the AFDies? Well, no, Ed didn't, one stream went off. It looked like it was a little, it was getting

a little crazy in here. I two left. No, Ed didn't, I thought he was going to pack up and, you know, adding to start partying, his homeboy made about 17 more hookas. You know what I'm saying? Like, we kept the party going. Pee was here. Like, I was here. My cousin was here. I had some of my home girls pull up. And it looked like everybody was just chilling to have a conversation. I was like, all right, as long as that ain't going to keep the music going, fuck it. We're here.

Yeah, no. Once I saw the home girls come out, I didn't want to fuck with the vibe. I thought you and Pete was going to run the two men. So I got out of. Everybody was chilling. Everybody was having a good time, man. Pige was playing ping pong for about an hour. Like by himself?

No, no. Like with the table up? Like fours up? By him. Edon will come back to the deep to the rig and put another play. Put another playlist on. Let that run. Yeah.

Go back to ping pong. man? Oh, you mean beer pong? I was like, we have a ping pong table here. Beer pong. I said ping pong. Beer pong. Yes, beer pong. Um, no, it was fun. Um, Damaris, you looked like you had a great time. Yeah, stream is interesting like that. Did we, did we block a certain person's email before the stream? No, they got off. They got off. I love people who don't like looking at shit that's going to piss them off.

What, what minute, Mark? And you ain't doing anything crazy? They were there for like two minutes. They were like, oh, okay, you look, why? Like they don't, nah. They don't not. No. People like, you know, I like people that like their peace. That like to sleep at night. Okay.

Well, if he's listening, you didn't do anything. It was chill. It wasn't that. Yeah, it wasn't that type of party. It was everybody was having a good time. Just chilling, man. It was a good vibe. Good energy, man.

Shut out to everybody that came out. Yeah, for sure. Other than that, it was pretty quiet weekend. I went outside. I went to Beatrice's birthday party. Happy birthday to B. Happy birthday B. He was here. He was here for the stream as well.

It was cool. A little St. Peter's reunion. B still stays in contact with people I've not seen fucking like 15 years. So that was cool. I love people like that. People that stand contact with people you don't. So when they have something like you see everybody

that you don't as much, that's dope. And it was crazy just to see a bunch of people like now with facial hair. Yeah. I remember you. You just didn't. Oh, you got a beard. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, it was cool other than that, I don't shit. Regular weekend. What did you end up doing? I didn't do shit this weekend. I was chilling. I went to dinner when we had to party Friday. Went to dinner Saturday to the spot that I have been trying to.

It's like a vegan spot in the city that I've been looking at for a few months. And I was like, you know, let me try this. It's open out a vegan spot for that many months. No, because it's like a, it's like a, so it's a restaurant group that has different vegan restaurants. I've been to like, I think they have like six of them and I've been to like three. Okay. So I'm trying to experience all of the different restaurants. So I experienced another one this weekend.

It was pretty good. Actually, I got to go back and I'm trying to more stuff on them. The girl was looking at me, like, you sure that's enough food? Because I was trying to order a little bit of everything. Dope, dope, dope spot. Yeah, and that was it. Went there Saturday, Sunday, chilled in the crib, cleaned up a little bit. That was it, man.

I kept to chill this weekend. Watch the Giants get the ass with. Yeah, the Giants. It was a rough weekend for this, yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man. Hopefully the Knicks did the Knicks win. It was in Abu Dhabi. They did win?

Okay, so at least the next one. The Saudis are paying them too. I mean, listen, man. They're trying to... The Saudis bought Brunson? Listen, man. I just read something that said, Elon Musk can now,

has enough money to buy the entire NBA, the entire MLB, and the entire NFL. And Flint still does not have drinking water. Yes. Correct. Correct. So that was a fun tidbit to learn over the week.

And like, oh, Elon can buy all three major sports leagues in America and still have 20 billion left over. So, you know, whatever. Listen, man, you let that party run amok with that type of money. It'll be back to white baseball. You will not be a single fucking Dominican or Puerto Rican. White baseball is nasty. And I mean, according to them, China and Japan are the same thing.

So any Japanese, China, no. No, no, communist, we can't do that. Not at all. It's going to be very interesting once Elon starts. It starts running every major sporting event. Fucking crazy. Shit, other than that, I mean, the puff thing happened. Was that on Friday or Saturday?

That was Friday. You can't sit there on Saturday. Before we came in. I'll admit, I did leave the stream up, not remembering that you can't have cameras in a New York City court. So I literally just left my laptop open of a live stream of CNN thinking I was going to see the results. And it was just a shot of 100th century street for five hours.

Yeah, no, I don't think cameras were allowed. in the courtroom. Yeah, no, New York City doesn't allow that. Yeah, but either way, Diddy was sentenced to,

I believe, 50 months in prison. About four years. About four years. I don't think he'll serve a full four years, but it is, you know,

I think that his team kind of felt like he would have the chance to go home Friday and be released. They are going to file an appeal, I think immediately.

Some people have mixed feelings about it. I feel like, you know, 50 months wasn't enough. some people look at other people that have had worse cases being found guilty of, you know, child sexual assault who've only gotten like 10 months and, you know, some of them no months. Well, yeah, some of them no months at all. So, you know, people started comparing and things like that in light of the sentencing when it came down. But I think that, you know, if I'm Puff's team, this has to feel like some sort of a victory in a sense because they were looking at a maximum or maybe 10 or 11 years.

So they gave him 50 months, and he probably won't do the full four years. He probably gets some, he's going to get time served, obviously. Which how long has puff been in? A little over a year. Okay. I think, a little over a year. So he'll probably do two years. About two years, maybe a year and a half in a halfway house or something like that.

But, I mean, you know, either way, you know, I think that this chapter is coming to a close. Again, they are going to file a pill and try to get this 50 months reduced as well. but I'm not sure. I mean, but even in the time that you do appeals, it may take as long as the time he's even going to serve at that point. And it'll all be time served, didn't you? Yeah. So, I mean, Puff is sitting now for two years.

I do want to ask you all, what does it look like when Puff gets out for him? I mean, he had his statement that he said to the judge that he's completely changed. He was on drugs and, you know, a typical response to a judge that's about to sentence you. Yeah. What do we think it looks like when he gets out? Is Puff going to be quiet? or are we getting the full redemption Christian tour? I don't think he'll be quiet.

I don't know if quiet is the word. I think his energy will be different. I think that, you know, he'll have to change his. And if you look at it, he's kind of already started that with the whole love thing. You know what I mean? Like he kind of started trying to change his demeanor and tone a little bit years ago. And I think we can speculate on, I mean, some of the reason of that, like, all right, maybe some shit's coming down the pipeline, and I got to do a little image.

Clean up my act a little bit. So I think that, you know, we'll see a different, a different ditty. But I don't know if he'll go full Christian. I don't know if he'll go gospel and, you know, I don't know if he'll start preaching the word. I don't think he'll go that far. But I do think that he will, I mean, he'll be forced to make some lifestyle changes. Somebody like Puff doesn't want to do a day in jail. He's already been in there a little over a year.

and now has more time to go. So, you know, this may be what Puff needed to kind of like, you know, shake him up and show him to, hey, man, listen, even when you got money and power, like, you'll have to go sit down and, you know, sit in these environments that, you know, somebody like you doesn't want to be in. You used to a life of luxury. You don't want to have to be sitting in no fucking small ass cell, you know, eating his food and things like, even though I'm pretty sure he's living good. And I'm pretty sure he's getting the food that he wants and things like that. But you still don't want to be in there. So I think that he'll change his lifestyle a little bit.

But I think he'll still be the same puff in terms of businessman and I'm trying to, you know, acquire his businesses back and things like that or start new businesses and new ventures and things like that. I think that's just a part of who he'll always be. But in his personal life, I think he'll will see a different or feel a different tone from him. You think he'll buy revolt back from Dame? Why? This is why. What, did you not start revolt? No, Dane didn't start.

No, I said Puff. No, I mean, I don't think he'll go. that route. I think it'll be new everything, it'll be new ventures. He'll still be, he'll still be, you know, the businessman and the entrepreneur that we know him to be. But I think he'll, I think he wants to kind of start things, you know, from scratch

and build, build platforms and build brands again, which is something that obviously he's one of the greatest at doing. I think that he'll, just, it'll be different. Everything will be different for him. Yeah, but I guess, and we don't have to stay on this for too long, but a lot of what Puff has done in the past, to get to the mogul that he is required people as far as drinking your liquor, wearing your clothes, listening to your music.

I mean, we've seen that on the music side, people generally don't really give a fuck what any artist does. They'll probably still listen to their music. I'm sure R. Kelly is streaming through the roof currently. But as far as the stuff that may puff the businessman and the money that we know him to have, that came from us wearing his clothes and drinking his products pause. Like, I just don't know if anyone's going to do that. Like, if you're at the club and buying bottles, are you buying Puff's new alcohol?

Like, you look kind of fucking nuts. Yeah. Are you wearing a Puff T-shirt? I think so. But we've seen people support him outside the courtroom. We've seen people down and down this industry with bottles of baby oil and things like that still supporting them and things like that. So he still has people that support him no matter what. The influence, the people who influence, though, are they doing that?

Yeah, I don't know about that. I think so, man. I keep telling him people, people really don't care. Like, if it doesn't directly affect them, I don't think people care as much as I think they do. But even if they don't care, if you're going, let's just use the liquor as the example. Like, with the amount of options you have for liquor, even if you don't care what Did He did, I don't know if you're just going to rush to go support it just because you don't care. Out of all the options of vodka and tequila that you can get, I think you'd probably just be like, you know what, I'll get teetals.

Yeah. Even if you don't care what he did. I think it's going to be tougher for Puffman than even he probably thinks just based off the 20 years of business that he's been so successful in. It just requires everyone to support and buy your products. And I don't know if that's a thing now. Do you think that he should just kind of like go off the grid and just be a family man? I think he should just disappear. Completely disappear.

I'm not mad at that. Like if I'm him, I would probably go that route. Like me, if I was in that position, I would definitely go that route. Like, you know what? Let me just completely just live a completely different life. I don't want to be in front of the cameras. I don't want to be, you know, on the blogs, just go somewhere where I can just be live about my years, an old man on the beach, eating fucking seafood and fruit and shit like that,

like, and just chill. Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to be, definitely wouldn't be on the party in a nightclub anymore. You would never see me in a nightclub again. Absolutely insane if he did that. Yeah, never again. I should, he should, he should look at Shug as an example. Shug could have been as rich as Jimmy I've been right now if you just would have fucking

disappear. Staying in the mix is what got him jammed up with everything. I think it's a tragedy would happen on the set of straight out of Compton. And I think they're, you know, rest and peace to the gentleman, but should get some grace on. He didn't intentionally try to kill someone. But when you've been in the public eye pissing people off this long, no one's going to have grace for you, especially in a courtroom.

They couldn't wait to lock you up. Right. You think if Puff crosses the street wrong, it's going to be a thing. And if he stays in the spotlight, more and more cases are going to come out. I'm not saying true or not. I just know for a fact, people are going,

it'll be a waterfall, more and more victims. The more somebody sees somebody is when shit gets brought up. Matter of fact, most of the time when people get canceled, it's usually when they're like announcing something positive that they're doing

and then everyone figures out everything bad that they've done in their past. If you just fucking stay out of delight, Huff could probably live a pretty good life with his family. Oh, no, absolutely. It's just going to get worse. if he gets back on his ditty-bob shit and is outside. Sorry.

Go ahead, ma. There's some people who will say that Puff is a narcissist and he needs that spotlight. Like, he doesn't want to live in peace and quiet. A therapist might suggest. Some characteristics of it. You got to remember, Puff's start was as a party promoter. Yeah.

So he's always been the party guy just by nature. That's how he got his start. In college, he was throwing parties. You know, I mean, the unfortunate tragic events that happened that it was City College, right? Yeah. Was the City College? And, you know, somebody lost. How many people lost their lives there?

It was a couple. Yeah. So, but, you know, going all the way back then to the early 90s, maybe even the late 80s, like, Puff has been, you know, he's been a party guy. So that's how he got his artist to pop in the beginning. Yeah. So he, you know, to kind of completely detach from that, you know, it might be tough for him. But I think this is, he's in this predicament because of his lifestyle. So naturally, he has to make changes to his lifestyle.

He has to slow down completely. He has to find different ways to, you know, find creative inspiration and things like that. If he still wants to do that. But it can't be, you know, the way he's done it because look, look where it got him. His lifestyle got him, you know, essentially 50 months in prison. So he'll make some changes. I think he has to make some changes. obviously. I don't know if he completely disappears, though. I don't know if I see that.

I don't know if I see him completely going, you know, off the grid and just we only seeing certain pictures of him on the beach every two, three years. Like, I don't know if he did that, though. Yeah, I mean, to Demaris's point, I wouldn't say that America has the greatest rehabilitation prison system of where Puff could make a complete 180. Mix that with somebody that has narcissistic tendencies. He's probably. to be right back outside. Nah, I don't think so. Halloween coming up?

Oh, no, no, sorry. When he gets out, Halloween, yeah, you know. He probably throwing parties in the day room. Like, no, man. He ain't probably doing that. Bro, when you're used to being the center of attention, your life thrives on being the center of attention, that does not just go away with jail.

Yeah, but when you 50, because he'll be, what, 60 by the time he gets out? Probably, yeah. He, he, listen, man, no. 55, he'll be almost 60. Yeah, you can't be outside. Pup was 50 partying like he was 20. Yeah, and look where he's at. Fair.

I think it wouldn't be prison more or less if he gets completely off drugs through this process, that could maybe be the turn and everything. Because I think a lot of Puff's lifestyle was driven by drugs and why he was able to party that much was because of those and the want to party. I mean, we read even the paperwork. Like, he literally had people on staff that literally just carried around his fucking Molly and Coke. Yeah, but that's why he can't put itself in those environments.

You know, if you're an addict and, you know, a recovering addict, you can't put yourself right in the middle of the temptation and be like, you know, let me see if I'm completely over this life. And no, you completely remove yourself from that. It's still ways to have 60-year-old good fun though. Like, you can still have fun in your 60s and part of it. But it's a different type of thing. Now it's, you know, few of my, you know, relatives, friends, family, kids, come out of

house, barbecue, this, that. you can still have a good time and enjoy life. But being in that mix and doing those things, you can't, you can't come home and do that. Well, we were wrong about gunning thug as far as who would work with them, features, producers, et cetera, with this. I mean, do you think in the event Puff wants to continue to make music that we get a love to a love deluxe at the same caliber, which is kind of crazy when all this happened? Because I think that's probably. That's probably, probably aside from no way out, it can compete with Last Train to Paris. That was one of the greatest bodies of work Puff has ever put out, which is saying something.

Yeah, absolutely. But producer is still going to work with him, writers are still going to work with him. But is he getting the same Justin Bieber feature that he's getting from Love the first album. Justin Bieber, maybe, because of their past relationships. He's not getting Kalani. That's not happening. But Justin Bieber? Yeah, probably.

They call Bebe's a victim. The Bieber is not doing no. He's not giving a puff, no vocals. What I'm saying is when people, and I'm not saying that this is true, but this could happen. When people have known people their entire lives, sometimes it's like you're going to work with me on this or this information that I have that nobody else's have will suddenly leak. Like people hang things over people's head. Yeah. And there's also, y'all call people, what's calling them a victim, there's also a loyalty to certain shit.

Like, I don't know. I'm just saying I'm not, if it happened, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. He's definitely going to continue to make music. I just don't know what relationships are still there, what artists are still available for him to call and get averse from. I feel like Diddy has a lot of information on a lot of people and he's going to start calling him favors. Whoops. You're going to start threatening niggas with tapes?

I don't know if it's like that, but yeah, that's possible. No, I don't know. Not putting blackmail on people's names, but that's... I mean, you see what he did do his last producer. What do you do this last producer? What was that guy's name again? Rodney, Ricky. Something like that.

Hot Rod. Yes. Hot Rod was a rapper and j unit. It was not. Hot Rod did not produce the love album. Which would be hilarious if Hot Rod did. But yeah, I mean, if you're going off the last one, The Dream, Jauquise, Summer Walker, French Montana, Justin Bieber, Jasmine Sullivan, Tidalah, Kailani, Coco, Coco, Mary J. Blage, Tiana Taylor, Jeremiah, Burnaboy, John Legend.

You don't think he get a merry verse? I'm sure. He'll definitely get a merry verse. Bryce until, yeah, Mary seems forgiving. I'm telling you, man, I think people really just don't care. The way you think. Probably so. I'm going to look at it like, yo, he did his time. You said it's over.

He came home. Because here's the thing, too, that people don't understand DeMaris. People knew about a lot of that shit when it was going on when it was happening. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, like, you know, like, But I don't think it's about people caring. It's about who's supporting you. Will people withdraw their support from you

because they see you supporting someone else? Yeah. People turned on GloRilla. If you turned on GloRilla. Would you support them after this? If you had a relation with them? I wouldn't have a relationship with Puff. And be aware of anything like that.

If you had a relationship with a book. No, I wouldn't. But I'm also not, I am also talking from a broke person's point of view. I don't have millions of dollars on the line. Like, that can change things. for different people. But as far as like caring about things, yeah, some people don't care, but their fans might care.

So like I was, like I was saying, people were attacking Glorilla because Glorilla, who had previously been on tour with Meg, Glorilla posted, reposted something. And sometimes when you repost posts from Instagram, the song that the original poster posted with it will show up on your story. The song happened to be a Tori Lane story. People went crazy. Like you never, like attaching yourself to certain people on accident, on purpose, you can lose some of your own fans doing that.

But Glow could just buy mega bag and be fine, right? Anyway. That wouldn't just fix it? Big bag. Yeah, but people might be afraid to work with Diddy because, especially women, because they might lose support from their own. Which is also interesting that you bring up Tori Lanes, because I think when he gets out of jail, that...

He'll be fine. That first album might be thriller level of the amount of people that are going to want to work with him. Yeah. He's going to have every A-List feature, every A-List, producer, anything that Torrey Lanes wants on this project is going to be met. Which is so cool. They are going to champion, Tory Lanes, they will champion.

You said Thriller? I'm just saying the resource of points in Jones. In terms of support. Do I think Tor Lanes is going to make an album close to Thriller? No, I'm saying as far as the resources that he will be given, which is the complete opposite of what I think Puff would be given when he gets out of jail. It's just weird how the perception of things goes where I think the whole industry clearly loves and still supports Tori Lanes, whereas Puff, I'm not sure it's going to be like that. And they both are attached to harming women.

So it's weird just how the world works in that way. People care about what they care about if it means, you know, they have a person relationship. You know how it is. People turn the blind outs of things. It's like, nah, that's my home boy. I know he did some whack shit, but that's my man. Like, I mean, out the gate, I think he'll have a Drake feature. I think he'll get any feature he wants.

I think people cannot wait to help Tori Lanes once he gets out of jail. I see what you're saying. Sick. I mean, that's... Dave, it's not like this is even really like a theory. We've seen the outlying support for the last few years for him. I think every label is going to want to meet with him. I think, yeah, I think it's going to be drastically different than what we've seen with most people

that have been convicted of harming women. But why do you think that? Because people change. I mean, I told you that I think generals should study Tori Lanes's like PR team. Like he has Netanyahu level PR at this point. How he spun that and everything that he put into the media even from jail made everyone actually believe that he did not shoot a woman after he apologized on a jail call for it. Yeah, but even that, I don't think that people.

There's nobody. I don't think people think that he didn't do it. I think people don't care that he did it. I think it's a mix. It's a mix between there are. People got to stop, but those people got to stop. But those people got to stop. Let's like, bro, just say you don't care that he did it.

You don't care about Megan. You don't care what happened between them. It was some domestic shit. They were dating, fucking, whatever they were doing. Got drunk. Things happened. I don't care. But people got to stop saying that.

Who do they say, Sean Megan now? Kelsey. Because every week, I feel like it changes. first of it was she didn't get shot she stepped on glass yes and then every week who shot her changes so I don't

I believe I believe Oswald shot her okay got it so this week is Oswald Lee Harvey I got you I don't know I think I just think again back to people just don't care and I think that you know we we sit back and we try to think that people care

and hope that people care about certain things the way you know others do but people really don't give a fuck we can definitely move on from my last question. Who does Tori Lane's first interview? Who does Puff's first interview? Gail got to tell both sides.

I was just about to say Puff's going to go. Oh yeah, Puff is definitely going to Gail for sure. Gail might go to whatever federal prison Puff ends up in after the sentencing. Gail might get that interview in prison. Hmm. Tori, on the other hand, I'm going to go Wack 100 on Clubhouse. Nah. As he gets in the car that picked him up from Purs.

be serious. I could see Kai getting that first. I can see Kai getting that, yeah. Or Aiden Ross, something like that. That's one of the streamers. But Puff, I don't know, Candace Owens. But what does the Kai Torrey Lane's first interview look like?

Like, are we dancing in the basement? Kai's not taking that interview. Aiden will. Kai's not taking that interview. Why not? I would definitely take that interview. Kai is not taking the Tori Lane's interview. Why not?

Because Kai has gotten much smarter with his PR and like Kai has gotten smarter. Kai's not taking an interview. And Kai is very aware of who his audience is and how the internet works. His audience supports story lanes. To an extent, but Kai has gotten so big. That's like Kai is,

Kai has gotten so big that like he has regular grown women rooting for him like, oh my God, he's so great. Aidan Ross, we'll take it. They don't have the same audience. They both have big audiences that are around the same age group, but they do not have the same. I mean, Aiden's audience definitely supports Sterling's. Yes.

Matter of fact. They didn't know who he was, though, before he shot Megan, but now they definitely support him. They support Tori so much. They think he shot her and was happy about it. Yeah. Like, that's it. That's shit. Well, yeah, I definitely, Aiden and Tori makes a lot of sense.

Yeah. Kai's too, too big now. Speedy. Do we think Aiden? No. Speedy's not taking that. Why not? Because to what Demer said about Kai, I actually feel is the truth about

speedy as far as he's going to be very particular on who he sits with. He's very calculated. He has a great image. I just don't think he would do the Tory. I just don't think he would do. If Tori's people breached out to Speedy, you think Speedy turns it down? Yes. I do. And Speedy can't afford to turn down

Torrey fucking lanes. Like, Speedy gets huge interviews. Like, what are we talking about? I don't mean to make. Like. Cam Newton? I could see it. I can see it too. I can see Puff and Shannon Sharp. Not mad at that at all. God.

That, yeah, that might, that, yeah. Didn't Shannon just have to pay out another 30 million to some girl? Probably. He down 50 amps. Now puff, now, Paul, we saw all the tape. Now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, puff. And I don't mean to joke about a woman being shot, but if Torrey Lanes did hot ones on his exit. All right, man.

All right, man. You just, now, you just. Just think of the Sean Evans' questions when he got to the last wing. Torrey Lane's hot ones would be the funny shit on earth. Y'all still don't believe we living in the simulation. Like, this shit is... I'm 100% that. Like, look what we talk about.

Shannon Sharp's sitting down with Puff as soon as he comes home from shit. Yeah. That is fucking crazy. I didn't think Sean Evans would have a public fallout with a porn star, but here we go. I know what would break the internet? Puff and Charleston White. I know. Y'all want to see the internet really break?

because we say the internet broke. It ain't never broke. Charleston White and Puff sit down when Puff come home, nothing is working after that. Charleston White is so dedicated. He might purposely get arrested and put in the same person as Puff just to get that interview. He might just be his telling just to like start that relationship.

Oh, man. I'm watching it. Charleston White and Puff would be absolutely nuts. I'm watching it. But jokes aside, I do think Gail's going to get that one. I mean, anyone that's trying to change their image, whether they're good at it or bad at it. Gail's right there for you.

You think Puff sit down with you? Joe and Jada? No. I don't think, I think the volume tells them to pass. I'm out. What? Yeah. DiMaris. Long time, set that up right now. Yeah, DeMaris, this moral shit you on today? This moral how are you on? Cut the shit. These corporate motherfuckers

don't give a fuck about no morals. That's going to be Puff, Joe and Jada, sponsored by... Are you kidding? Sponsor by Sarak. What are you talking about? You kidding me? Hell not. Drink champs. Oh, for show. Norian Puff, definitely.

No, especially if Puff with his parole is forced to stay in one place, I'm sure he's going to pick his Miami house. Yeah. You don't get Nory right by that pool. Absolutely. We throw on some sick-ass platforms out there. But it'll probably end up being somebody like Gail. Like, yeah, it'll be somebody like that. I mean, Gail, I feel like if you're a publicist, though, like we've seen R. Kelly.

We've seen Jussie. Like, Gail sometimes is not always the best route to go when you're. trying to get your story. Yale's a pretty honest interview. No, it's nothing against Hale. No, I know. Yeah, it's great. It just, it just doesn't usually work out in a lot of people's favors when they're trying

to completely change their image because Gail has a great way of saying less to get you to say more shit that's going to make you sound dumber. She'll just sit there and look at you. She'll just quietly like, so a subway sandwich, right? She won't let you walk yourself right into the lie. She don't want to let you walk yourself right into the bullshit. Like, okay, go ahead. Say what you got to say.

I think Puff will sit down with Gail, but it's going to be a challenge for Puff to talk around Gail. Like, talking around fucking Shannon Sharp, like that. No, it's going to be tough for Puff to lie to Gail. That's what it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough to look Gail King of her eyes and just feed her some bullshit. Shannon, Sharp, he's just happy to have an interview. He's trying to get back out that $50 million hole he in right now. Yeah.

He has a resentment towards one. women already. He can't wait to say Puff was railroad. They need Shannon for Puff to help. That would be just two guys sitting a similar story. Oh my God. But shit, you know, when R. Kelly screamed in Gail's face that they're trying to take my fucking life and her only response was Robert. Yeah, because that's, again, like you can't sit here. I don't know if Puff can handle her going, Sean. Now Sean. Because you know what it is when you, you just that energy like, because in that moment, Gail King sitting there, you just know when somebody just, bro, you, you're doing way too much for somebody that's supposed to be innocent.

Innocent people don't sit here and go crazy like this. Like, you sitting here because you know, like, you're talking to your lawyers and they're telling you like, yo, bro, it's not looking good. Like, I don't know how we getting out of this one. Like, that's what that energy is. That's that nervous energy. Like, so Gail King sitting there like, bro, you sitting here standing up yelling. This thing got to keep wiping his sweat off your forehead. Like, yo, just sit down, man.

You're going to jail. Just sit down. Just chill. Just have an interview. We'll see you in 20 years. That's all right. Gail sat through that and then also kept a straight face when Jesse said, so I punched his ass back.

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clip every day. What did I actually do that? You know the crazy shit is she still saying the same shit that she said before and they kill her every time she say it. What is she saying? I mean, according to the internet that she just wants to fuck other people, but. She just said that she

wasn't expected to be. We talked about this. She just said it in a different interview. She wasn't expected to be a mom. Being a mom wasn't her dream and now it takes some adjusting. Same shit. Every woman ever has said that. Yeah. But why are people so, why people so like hell meant when she says that? Like, do people not understand what she said?

Okay, so people may not understand what you're saying. What Aisha Curry is saying is her dream wasn't to just be a mom and a housewife and, you know, take care of family. Like, she probably had dreams of being a fashion design or a cook or a chef or whatever. Like, what's wrong with saying that? She's not saying she's not happy in her marriage.

She's not saying that her and Steph are fucking on the verge of a divorce and they don't like each other. Like, no, she's just saying she didn't think that this would be her life. Like, she would be married with kids this young and, you know, like a lot of the dreams she probably had as a young girl and told herself what she wanted to be when she grow up, she never accomplished because she got married and started a family really early. But, like, life is great for you, she curry. She's happy. Her family's happy, healthy. Like, people got to stop taking what she's saying to mean that she's not happy in her marriage and in her family with Steph Curry.

Like, that's just stupid for people to keep trying to spend that. I mean, you know, I've been very supportive of her and everyone trying to kill her over absolute nonsense. but after having the same talking points and yet another interview, Aisha Curia, I will tell you, I'm on the other side of this entire thing. It's not that great. I would knock up Caitlin Clark tomorrow and be a stay-at-home dad and never work again. Nice. This side is not as cool as you think it is.

Chase you a dream? The shit is not. It's a lot of heartbreak. It's a lot of financial disaster. It keeps you up at night. I would happily, happily be a stay-at-home dad for Caitlin Clark. tomorrow. We can we can burn all these cameras if she'll have me. You say that now. You say that now. No, I say that forever. You built a whole entire business. You've discovered who you are. You found

your passions, your dreams. Oh, God, yes, you work so hard, but a lot of it you enjoy. So in those- I would love to wake up every day and just have a latte and go to Pilates. You know how much. That's not what a being a mom is. You know how mom is. Creative. I could get it. You know that there's a a while before you get to drop them kids off. And then after you drop them kids off, you gotta clean and make sure they're okay and do all of those things. So you must see them. We got money. We got nannies.

The train nanny's gonna raise them. Yeah, you don't do that. You don't even see my kids. You got a hundred M's? You got a hundred M's. You don't have to see your kids. That's why spoiled rich kids grow up to be so great. Sometimes people like still like love their kids and like want to raise them.

Foreign, foreign concept. When you got a hundred million. People that love their kids don't even like their kids. Don't do that. Yeah. Like, they want to see their kids, like, just go in the room. Like, just go do something for a few hours. Like, I don't want to see you.

But you got $100 million. You got three nannies. Life is, life is okay. You know, how creative I could get with Caitlin Clark's credit card, I'd find happiness. Yeah. I could do a lot of stuff. I could chase a lot of dreams with eight hours of just chilling and I had her credit card. Yeah.

I'd find a way. You'd find a way to make yourself happy. I would have enough money. I'd do the love two album. But I... Who? Caitlin Clark has wakes way more money than that. She may make $7,8,000.

from the WMBA. From the fever. That may be her salary from the fever, but I can promise you, Kaelin Clark, more than $70,000. She donated, I'm sure she donated that directly to charity when she got that. But yeah, I mean, I feel you.

But it's not that great over here. Yeah, but people got to stop taking what she's saying, and just turning her words into, she's not happy. Once people, the internet picks someone to hate, especially misogynistic people on the internet, once they take someone they hate them forever. it doesn't matter if anything they say makes sense they just hate them anyways though um back to the uh

the yankee bus trip group chat um they did say that one of those illegals attacked a 69 year old truck driver over the weekend and i clicked the link and it was mark sanchez would it mark sanchez he got stabbed he attacked a 69 year old guy and got stabbed at one point mark Sanchez was in critical condition. Wow. You didn't see this? No. Okay, yeah.

So it started out, it was all like prayers for Mark. I hate the Jets. And even I was like, damn, that's fucked up. Y'all stab Mark Sanchez for what? Then more information started to come out, and he was the aggressor. And the 69-year-old guy was defending himself and, you know, had it on him. And had to dice mark up a little bit. So this was just a road, like a road rage of something?

Yeah. So essentially, um, there was some. type of altercation that authorities still can't figure out what really caused it or what had Mark just freaking out. But he ended up beating the shit out of this old guy. He pepper sprayed him. That didn't work. You know, because Mark is used to fucking D-Ns and the guy had to end up stabbing him to protect himself. Listen, man. That's just, that's just weird. Will Smith did not put on that terrible accent for nothing. So you think this may be a CTE? Hell yeah. based up this is going off the little bit of information that we have and they're saying they don't know what caused mark to go off like that one can make the assumption of the amount of hits an NFL quarterback takes yeah i'm sure that can cause that type of rage out of nowhere yeah because it sounds like it wasn't even that serious of a situation to end up getting stabbed over but listen we we don't know we don't know all the details so i don't want to say this was some you know

Aaron Hernandez trigger CTE situation. Maybe the old fuck said something crazy. I don't know. But for what we do know now, there wasn't a clear reason on why Mark Sanchez did what he did. So he's been charged with three misdemeanors? Yeah. And the level five felony?

I don't know. I just think it's one kind of crazy that a 69-year-old is driving a truck and also has pepper spray and also has a knife. just like three things I just wouldn't Why is it crazy for six years? And also beating the shit out of a 69 year old is fucking nuts But why is it crazy for 69 year to be driving a truck? I mean, you know

You think 69 years can't drive truck I think some 69 year olds go I just feel like those jobs should maybe go to younger people Rory has always said that he thinks that older people should take their driver's license again Because he hates old people driving We say that's a common thing with him I legitimately almost like snitched

to the state of Illinois on my grandfather. Like, why did you give this 90-year-old man a fucking license again? Why are you allowed this man? 90-69 is totally different. No, for sure. But I do think at some point,

certain jobs, yeah, maybe it's better if they go to younger people. Yeah, that's all. But it doesn't mean he deserves to be beat up by an NFL quarterback. Well, look, that he had it on him. See? He never knew he was going to run into Mark Sanchez,

I'm believing, but he knew one day he was, would have to stab somebody. I was in, um, I was in, um, I was in AutoZone getting oil for my car. And you know, like at the, the checkout where usually you'd buy gum, they have pepper spray there, like in a, in a bowl that you could just buy. And I was like, nah, I feel so pussy buying pepper spray. I just feel like as a man, like that's, I feel like pepper spray is, which, which is fucked up. Like, all right, uh, allegedly, allegedly, Tata, I understand his situation. You know, If you can't bring in anything into an arena to protect your team and your crew, all right, pepper spray is the only thing we can get in. We can't get any other tools in. So we're going to do that. I understand in that situation. But I do feel kind of like a lady in distress if I was just walking down the street with pepper spray in my pocket. Part of my male ego would feel really odd about just having pepper spray over it. I might be with you on that one. Like not, I'll take the ass weapon. Yeah.

Like a man having pepper spray is a little crazy Like you go to over you go A man come over your house, DeMaris And he put his keys on the counter Not on the keys is crazy And he got pepper You would look nuts He got pepper

All right so that's better than if y'all Sitting down on the couch And he reached like he reached behind To put his home around and his shirt go up And you see the pepper spray Clipped on his hip like a Glock That's better The crazy shit is

I would assume that Like if you carry a pepper spray Like you just don't want to shoot a woman Like why do you think I'm a rob you? Like I'm not going to like Like, I would think the pepper spray was for me. Wait. What?

How did you interpret it that way? What the fuck was wrong with you? Well, you think he came to the crib to beat and then, uh, spray pepper spray in your face? No, I'm just, I'm, no, I, I feel like, why do you have the pepper spray on your hip? Like, who are you protecting yourself from? Like, me? That's what I would think. Like, no, he's, but that's what we're saying.

Like, the fact that as a man, you have pepper spray clipped onto your, your pants. Maybe I'm parole. What? What? If you want parole. you're not supposed to have a gun, no shit. If somebody run up on you, if you have a gun, you're going to fucking use it. No, you have the pepper spray

to keep yourself out of jail. Shit, don't we make sense to y'all that make perfect sense in my brain. I'm telling you that male ego makes no sense. It would behoove a person to have pepper spray on his head. If you guys are on parole and shouldn't be getting into shit, carry pepper spray on you so that you can protect yourself

and also not go back to jail. Pepper spray? I was in New Jersey. I was at an auto zone in New Jersey, so I don't know. It could be different in New York City between that. It might be. Nah, because if you use it on somebody to protect yourself, you're not going to jail for you some pepper. Sorry, it might be illegal, but you're not going to jail. It's legal in New York City?

But I've always felt like I've had girlfriends that ordered pepper spray off Amazon, which I was happy about. You should always, always be able to protect yourself. But as somebody that's been pepper sprayed twice, like, I feel like you need some form of training because pepper spray is not for play play. I see people pepper spray themselves all the time. It is, pepper spray will fuck you up. So just to just give that to anyone,

like, Basil's just sending that to you with no release form, something. Like, you should be able, I think in the police academy, you have to get sprayed by pepper spray to carry it. And I'm not saying our police training is top tier, but that does make sense to me. You should know what the fuck pepper spray feels like

before you just walk around, willy-nilly because some people just have anger issues and it's not to protect themselves, they just have pepper spray and they're pissed. Yeah, I think any man carrying pepper spray is fucking crazy. That I still can't. Add that to the list of things that men can't do. Men can't own pepper spray.

That's great. But we're not allowed to be happy, so I mean, men can't own pepper. And y'all see, y'all see how y'all be saying women be like, men can't do this, man can't do that. No, men be saying men can't do this me. No, no, for sure. 100%.

100%. Like, yeah, I'm one of those men. A man should not have pepper spray. Like, come on, fan. Pepper spray? Like, if we get, I'm getting it to argue with somebody. I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and just spray this dude? Yeah.

What you mean? Yeah. Like, we arguing and I'm supposed to just bust them with pepper spray? Well, okay, well, why are you going to bust them with the pepper spray? Pepper spray is to protect yourself unless you feel threatened, you shouldn't be using a pepper spray. Yeah, but I'm saying, I'm getting into, like, Mark Sanchez. I'm getting into an argument with somebody, like, I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and hit them with the spray. nah but if he whooping your ass

didn't work by the way he had to end up stabbing him I see but I feel like that's worse I feel like if it's just fist me and another man is going it ain't like he backed out something but if he pull out a knife you pepper spray him

no he got just hands but he fucking me up I back out the pepper spray that's not crazy to you don't do that don't do that that's what I'm saying why do I have the pet like

we know this crazy me right here I would hope that at this point of my life I wouldn't run into somebody and we get into a fight and he pull a knife or a gun out on me like I would hope knife out pepper spray him.

No, if he put a knife out, then yeah, I'm assed out, because I ain't got no pepper spray. See? And the nigger next to you, I got the pepper spray. He's not assed out. He not stabbed. You stabbed up. No, I'm running. The pepper spray didn't work.

He had to stab him. Yeah, he had to take it to another level. Mark wasn't back and down. Even though I did make the original point that men should not carry pepper spray because it's a little feminine, there are some cases. Tocyt one, understand. In the event that a 69-year-old man runs into an NFL quarterback that wants to beat the shit out of him,

I'm okay with that guy having pepper spray. I would never think that this scenario would ever exist. But now that I know it exists, 69 year olds should be able to carry pepper spray because clearly NFL quarterbacks are targeting them. Yeah. I'm losing a fight to Mark Sanchez. Another thing that man...

And I'm 35. Another thing that man should do. Demarish, you go to a concert with a dude, you turn turn around and he's recording like everybody in the arena. You mean this move doesn't turn to No, fuck. Stop. It. Stop.

You can record the concert. No, no, no. No, that's not what you said. You can record the concert. It has to be a female performance. No, that's, you know, you can record the concert. But if you start-

Chris Brown is crazy. But if you start, if- Niggas recording CB is crazy. I did it. That's nasty. And what's so nasty is, I did it and I didn't post it.

Because you know it's nasty. It's nasty that I didn't post it. It's nasty that it's in your phone. It's nasty for a man to record Chris Brown's concert. That is disgusting. I don't care what none of y'all say. You're supposed to just live in the moment. It's supposed to just be a memory.

Oh, my God. Memories don't live like people. It's supposed to just be a memory. They always remember you. Now, if it's a Chris Brown show, if it's a Chris Brown show on Kaylani pop out, oh, it's time to record. That's Kaylani. Okay, can you record?

Okay, hear me out. But see me doing his ballot and you like this? Nah, yes, nasty work. Hold on. there's two instances. If he's singing damage, right, and you, can you send it to your ex that you cheated on? That was your song?

You cannot record no man. Okay. Performing. Okay, that's one. And number two, if he got Kail and Nicole up there and they grind in, you can't record that either. No. That's nasty.

All said it, not me. That's nasty work, bro. I'm fine what you record at a concert. Just don't turn around with cheese and get in the audience. That's going to piss me all. I could ask you something? This is why it's nasty. Can I ask you something?

What am I going to do with that video? Well, some people just post where they are. Like, if you post it, like, oh, you're at a show, post, that's fine. That's nice. You know, I don't think the man's going to take it and beat off to it in the bathroom. No, but that's nasty to just be like, it's nasty to be walking into the Chris Brown concert and you record the stadium. What is that? Who did it?

Somebody must have did it because it pissed you off. Because I look at it, like, I go to events. I don't record shit. Like, we went to SummerSlam and I recorded Jade walking. That's Jade, though. We was there for Jade. did I pull out my phone when fucking Logan Paul walked in a fucking

I didn't record none of that I did I didn't I'm not recording that shit when Jay walking down to oh yeah like damn okay that Jay yeah but when Logan came out

with fucking what's our guy's name a jelly roll kid I didn't record none of that shit I think I recorded the entire match nah hell no that's nasty work I know why you were there with your man's because your man's got you in

but you two niggas should not be singing two niggas should not be calling each other and saying, yo, we go, we out to Chris Brown together. That's, all right, I went more. That's a little eye. Yeah, I told you. It's shaky.

Yeah, listen, aside from, aside from the show by myself. Oh. But listen, aside from the weather, I don't just argue. Listen, aside from the weather being trashed that day, I really felt nasty going to that Chris Brown show. Like, I got Justin put Colon on. I was like, what the fuck am I doing?

Like, you're dragging it. You're dragging it. You thought it was. But when I get dressed to go outside, I put, that's part of my. routine. But when I did it, I'm like, yo, I'm going to Chris Brown show, though. Like, why I'm not? Yeah, but your generation thinks it's a stat that men would faint when they'd see Michael Jackson. So now I can't sing with justice at a Chris Brown show? That's gay too. Who told you

that was a stat? You would have fainted. At what? At Michael Jackson. You wouldn't record Michael Jackson. God, you would have hit me. Y'all are crazy. Y'all are lying. You think I would have fainted. You are fucking lying right now. If Michael Jackson was in front of you fucking performing, I would faint. From bringing out your phone and going, oh my fucking God. No,

you said I would faint. No, I don't think he'd faint. Oh, that's what I'm saying, I said he faint. Shit. Get the fuck out of here. You know,

more fainted. Are you fucking crazy? Fated? Fated? Yo. Yo. What the fuck you talk about? Faint is?

Yo, if I faint, nigga, I have a serious health condition. They've got nothing to do with Michael Jackson. I'll tell you this. If mall faints, I'm taking my phone out

to record when the EMT's comes and give him a smelling fault to where wake him up. Yeah, I'm not thinking of some fucking EMT just putting some shit in mall's nose and him coming to would be the funniest thing. All right, but Michael Jackson is like the exception. You could record Mike.

You're telling me, was it Atlanta? Chris Brown brought out Usher a few days ago. Yeah, I would have fucking died. Who's not pulling their phone out? Like, look at this fucking moment. I went to the Usher show and didn't record nothing. And that's one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life. Okay, well, okay.

Granted, I am very much pro. recording at shows. I typically do not because I do like to enjoy the experience and honestly when you record a show it's not like it's good. Like you don't like watch back the footage like wow this was great because it's a fucking cell phone footage but I do understand why people do it to capture that moment that they can look back on. Like if Usher and Chris Brown are together yeah I might I might go like this wow but you know what's nastier now because you could literally pull that video up in

anytime you want right now. You could just watch it in 4K. That's what I'm saying. So you want to record, it's like, bro, that's going to be, this is going to be everywhere in 10 seconds. You do not have to record this. Yeah, but I mean, are you ever on like a plane and don't get the Wi-Fi and just be going through your camera roll?

And like, oh, damn, I remember this day. I do that sometimes. That's fun. Okay. That's what so. Okay. Now, all right, now men can't reminisce. No.

We can't. Yo, men can't reminisce. It's funny as shit. Men can't say reminisce. First of all, men can't reminisce. No, we can't reminisce. All right, so P. Rock and C.L. Smooth, we get them out the culture. No, those are the only one.

Only P.R. The only two people allowed to reminisce. Yeah, the only ones allowed to reminisce is P.Rock and C.L. Smooth. Everybody else, just remember. You don't remember. All you other niggas, just remember. Don't reminisce. Pee Rock and C.L. Smooth is the only people that can reminisce.

That's it. That's hilarious. All right, well, shit. Don't pull your phone out at a show. I just felt like it was nasty. just to see men like recording. And it's just like, oh, y'all look crazy. Like, that is wild.

But I don't know. Some things just, I don't know. I just get like, it just gives me like, you know what I mean? It's like, like nobody, like, you know how you see something? And you be trying to look around to see anybody else kind of like saw what you just saw? Like when I see men doing that, I'm like, I'll be looking around like trying to look for the women. Like, yo, y'all don't see these niggas in here? Like, this ain't crazy.

You don't, y'all don't see these niggins in here. These niggas is recording Chris Moore walking. Like. Demaris, let's see how honest mole is going to be real. quick. Okay. We know Maul has been in courtrooms and court side. He's seen both sides. We know Mall has been to a lot of NBA games in some seats that you and I could never dream of. Have you ever pulled your phone out and recorded grown, tall men playing a child's game? In shorts. Yes, you have. Yeah. I've recorded Kobe's last game in Detroit.

Okay. Incredible. Kobe's last game that's monumental. I do think it doesn't compare, but it is in the same conversation of Chris Brown and Usher being on stage together. I actually think Chris Brown and Usher is a little bit more. Yeah, Kobe's last game would be one thing. Kobe's last game in Detroit is just like, who cares that much about the Pistons? No, it wasn't about the Pistons. It wasn't his last game. It was just last game in Detroit. Yeah, but it was about, yeah, but I was courtside for that. So you don't think there's Niggas running past Wiping sweat Flying on you Gay

You think somebody was throwing sweat on me Unintentionally Yeah shit They running past Sweat bacteria travels Yeah You smell a niggas Up close at front

You paid for that I can promise you A nigga has never threw his sweat on me Okay I can promise you I promise you If you sniff hard enough

You could smell them nigg's sweating On the bench next to you over there And don't do that You was playing Lockdown defense on Ray Rice Sweat definitely got on you No if I'm playing different. I'm talking about at a, like, I'm a, I'm just watching the game. Like, you think sweat is

flying over? No, hell no, that's not happening. But yes, I have recorded. Do you think there's some comparison there? Like, can you get mad at the guy that takes his phone out for Chris Brown's last show at MetLife as comparison to Kobe's last game at a little Caesar's arena? I think it's a little different only because it's like, this man is singing to women. Yeah, I'm filming him singing to women. That's crazy. That's crazy to me. That's wow.

That's not wild to you? No. Okay. Y'all, you were just to singing together is crazy, though. I'm going to fuck what you're talking about right now. Me and my man was not at that Kobe game singing to each other. But you guys were clapping when he scored. Yo, you seen that tapping each other.

I don't know if there's much difference. No, that's a difference. You and your man singing with homie is singing? And he ain't singing to y'all? he's singing to everybody he's singing to the audience wasn't singing to this niggins man you talking about he's singing everybody you think chris was singing to rory i think he looked at our section you think chris cared about what rory felt about that record maybe chris was worried about all them 20,000 women in that of all i believe doesn't uh chris brown have a album called fan

something fan of a fan of a fan yeah he's a he's a fan of all of his fans he cares about all of us that's a that's a breezy thing he cared about everybody that bought a ticket you ain't buy no ticket though So he probably didn't care about you. But he cared about everybody, I bought a ticket. But DeMaris, she knows what I'm saying. No, she knows that's kind of ick. You see when I first acted, she was like, ugh. No, because that, the men turning around and filming the arena, that it gave me the egg.

But you want to film the show? I don't care about that. No, just don't do too much. Like, don't have a phone up the whole time. See? See, you see how stipulations come with it, but not we just don't see. But I don't like that when anybody. Like, watch the fucking show.

I don't like you recording a whole concert the whole entire time anyway. Why even go to a car? Chris Brown show if you're not going to scream yo like what's the point You screamed yo? Of course I did. They cut the music. All of us said it in unison He screamed yo. Yeah because he know how it feels when you got to ask a nigga yo tell me

fellas have you seen her like he know he get bitches I know Eric Amanna. You screamed yo at the Chris Brown concert? Of course I did. I didn't stop singing at that show. I actually was shocked at how much Chris Brown lyrics I know I'm shocked I was like damn I know every word to every Chris Brown's how much Chris Brown was, you know? I'm actually appalled right now

that you know so many Chris Brown lyrics. I said, I guess have fun, man. I don't know. If I was with a girl, I probably wouldn't have been singing passionately with Justice, because I'm sure that may give her the egg, but it was just the fellas. I could be wrong here, but let me pull up. I'm not going to have Josh pull up

the meaning of the definition of gay. All right, man. Lighthearted and carefree. Okay, so that's gay. Happy. Yeah. You were gay. The real definition of gay is happening.

Ain't nobody more lighthearted and carefree to you. True. You? I'm lighthearted. And carefree? Yeah. Have you ever seen me lighthearted? Why are you saying that like it's an insult?

It's okay to be lighthearted. I'm not saying. She said nobody's more lighthearted and carefree to me. Yeah. You're a lighthearted carefree person. Nan had a gay disposition in a very pretty face. I don't know what that means, but that's just one of the definitions and examples of being gay. That's what Webster.

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Why men should not battle one? Yeah, I think that's, I mean, I get what they were trying to do with that, but I always felt like that was a little crazy. Because it just gives you the space to just, because battle rap is disrespect. That's who has the most disrespectful bars. So it just creates a space where it's like, it's okay to talk crazy to this woman right now.

Like, and granted, the, you know, the female MCs are dope and they hold their own. But I just always feel like that was just a little odd to kind of create that space where it's like, nah, get your shit off against her? Like, you know what I just talk crazy about this woman standing there? Well, I mean, for some backstory here, Loaded Lux turned down, allegedly turned down 250K to battle jazz the rapper. He said, I can't go to war with the divine feminine.

This is still a pure space for me. I feel like Lux is one of the few battlers that. I would like to see Battle of Woman because I know how creative he could get and wouldn't do the obvious disrespect to call her bitch and this and that. Like I think Lux is that dope that he could find a great way to battle a woman.

Yeah, no, he don't got a, he don't got a curse at her, but he's gonna disrespect in a very eloquent way. Because that's what battle rap is. Did you ever watch the Netflix show Rhythm and Flow? Mm-hmm. So, flawless, real talk, who's an incredible artist and rapper, he battled beans and shout out to beans

beans beans is also dope in her own right uh it makes great music he battled her and he did it in a very classy and respectful way and still smoked her and beans held her own don't get don't get me wrong if beans would have battled anybody else that day she would have continued she just went up against flawless who went fucking nuts but he

he started the whole shit out with like I'm not about to call you a bitch and then smoked her like in a very respectful way Can you sit me down and force me to watch that battle? He went nuts on that. Oh, shout out to flawless, man. He went nuts in that battle. Yeah, but I understand what Lux is saying, though.

But we've seen an example of, even though that was, you know, one round and not exactly U.R. even though Smack was hosting it. But I think I would like to see somebody like Lux do that. Like if Hollow was the one and no disrespect to Hollow. I just, you know Hollow is just going to say, if Arsenal went to get. against a woman, I'd be like, oh, God, he's about to be super- Oh, he has. Oh, yes?

Oh, I think so. I think so. I apologize. Maybe he was talking to a dude like that. First of all, arts is one of the most disrespectful human beings on earth. Yeah, but that's why that rap better, I just can't, I, because, fuck that rap, battle rap. It would be crazy for a real, like, recording artist, a real rapper. I'm going to say real rapper, but like a recording artist to, like, a recording artist to, like,

go at a woman like that on wax. That would even be crazy. Like if you hear one of these rappers going at one of going at, you know what I'm just? Like you really going in? Like a whole direct disc, not just like a low shot. Because we've seen a little shot here. No, little shots is fine. That's, you know, we have interactions.

You want the whole hove disc too, Nikki. Yeah, like that would be crazy. It'd be like, wait, what? Like you really stepped in the booth and recorded these balls going at this woman like this? Like, Seths, I don't know. I don't know. It's just a little, I understand Lux. I understand his stance on it.

It's just like, because mentally you have to, you know, he has to change his whole approach because, again, he's talking to a woman. He has respect for women, just as women as and as an emce. But it's like, you know, I feel why he's staying away from it, though. It's kind of like, man, I don't want to do that. I'm not trying to step into that. Well, do you think parties record to Meg was a battle record or a breakup record? Because he tore her up.

Yeah, but I don't. But again, that's. As much as they, of course, they have. have they had a history. And rappers have always rap about their, but nah, that was a battle record.

Because she's also a rapper. A lot of artists have rapped about women that can't rap back. Yeah. But I mean, that was different because that was,

you know, they were in a relationship and, you know, he probably had some shit and he just wanted to get off. But so that's a little different. But, yeah,

I don't know if I want to see the men battling women in battle rap. I never really was a fan of that. And I definitely understand where Lux is coming from. Like, I just,

I feel the same way. Like, I just can't do it. I can't even wrap my mind around doing that. I mean, I just feel like I, more so would be interested in the woman's point of view. Like, I would be scared because women can insult us worse than any man can. And if you get the right woman that has the right type of pen, that's a battle I would like to see of her breaking down an entire man's psyche. That could get nasty. That could get third round love.

type shit. Yeah, but that's, you still had a disadvantage because, again, the woman she could say what she wanted to say and disrespect me. Then I got to try to disrespect it. Now, what if I didn't dug up some information and found out she had an abortion two years ago? And I start rhyming from the perspective

of the aborted baby. I'm sorry. Like, what if I give y'all that? What if I give y'all that? You know what if I give y'all that? Like, what if I go ahead? Yo, you really call me off guard with that way. I'm just saying, like, as you know,

these guys are creative. Lux is creative. If Lux found out Jazz the rapper had an abortion last summer And he decides he wanted to be the Aborted Fetus And Ron from that perspective to his mom Well Y'all not giving Lux the credit he deserves

This is Lux we're talking about She could just say It's a woman's right to choose Don DeMarco Yeah, I mean I'm just saying it could get crazy Jazz might be up there She might start crying You know what I'm saying?

And then now Lux is the bad guy Lux wasn't supposed to go there He went personal He went too personal He bought up some shit he wasn't supposed to bring up. No, I know. I think everybody.

Who told him that? Didn't tell him to that. Who told him jazz had an abortion? Not saying jazz. I don't know jazz rapper. Let me put that out there. I don't know jazz the rapper has ever had an abortion. I'm just saying if she was battling somebody like Lux, he would do his due diligence.

For sure. And try to find out shit like that. But jazz is talented enough that I think she could get like a clips third round rebuttal like to what Rex said when he called, uh, Clips Dad a Snitch and gave the whole story. Like, I think she, if she had that information and knew other people knew it, I think she would be ready to retort something like that. I think she would have around. Yeah, but you still not ready. In the tuck of, I hear you, but no woman is ready to hear that from somebody on stage in front of people about something so personal and private that she didn't think anybody would

know about. And then coming from somebody who's as clever with words as like, Lux, bro, you're not prepared for that. You're not prepared for that. Rapping from an aborted baby's perspective would be you're not prepared and then now now jazz start crying up there Lux is a bad guy

Lux is a bad guy Lux is fucked up okay don't put that on jazz Yeah what you mean don't put that on jazz No I'm saying

if this is all hypothetical I'm saying if that was a But jazz is talented enough to A male a male battle rapper What you mean

That you wouldn't say now if if what you would call it Start crying up there Don't say Like you wouldn't say that You wouldn't say that You wouldn't say that about

If he starts talking about her abortion and start saying some crazy shit? I think that Jazz can handle a lot or else she wouldn't have become a battle rapper. Wild things have been said about jazz. First of all, no one's more disrespectful to women when it comes to saying a mean shit than women. Those women battles is rough. If there was an abortion to find, the women would have found it already.

Man, none of them can't write like Lux. Lux's going to start saying. Well, that's just in general because Lux is luck. So this is what we're talking about. We're talking about Lux battling. But you don't think Jazz would have an angle back with her skill level. of why women do get abortions because some of the men that would be the father of that child are such a piece of shit

that is better that I kill this kid. Yeah, and then that's when Lux's gonna come back with his next round and be like, you have bad tasting men. Pick your Kings better queen. Yo, how this became a fucking Twitter. Twitter dialect, fucking rat, pick your Kings better queen. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, he's gonna get it to all. Yeah, so this is the high level thinking of Lux. Like, he thinks on that type of level. So I can understand why. why he chooses to stay away from that because it's like, I'm going to go somewhere and it's going to, you know, it could really sting and hurt, you know, her emotions and she's emotional stage and now I look like I did something wrong. 250 though? Come on, man. We've disrespected women for less. Yeah, that's a fact. That is a fact. That is a fact.

250 though? And I get to disrespect women. I got out there. I don't know jazz to rap. Shout out to jazz. I don't know, but I would have disrespected the shit out of jazz for 250. That's, that's a misogynist dream. I'm getting paid to disobeyed. And I would have sold the shit out that paper with you. I would have been at the, at the way in.

The way in. The face off. The face off going crazy on jazz. I would have been going crazy. I'd have started making jazz thing. I got a sex table hall. Like, yo, y'all want me to play it now? I'd have had a phone like, do y'all want me to,

I would have fucked her whole momentum up going because she would have really thought I had some shit on my phone. I'd like jazz. If I play this, this battle is over. because every girl knows some nigga got a sex tape with them that they like, I hope that nigga never put that out.

Which also is funny just thinking about a way in. Yeah, the face off. No, but like they got a weigh in and Lux's life. For the battle? Looks like your hips could use a breather. Making a woman do a weigh-in

before a battle. No, I feel Lux though, man. Stay away from that shit. I always thought that was kind of weird. So yeah, I understand Lux. Nah. And all this shit, they've even said about men. I don't think it's that crazy

to just go battle a woman, but that's crazy. I don't know. The Saudis are going to buy URL.R. So it'll be crazy. Do you have no choice? Because we know what they do to women. Imagine if that was part of battling.

Like, you don't even know who you're about to battle. You just got to show up. You mean how, like, it used to me? No, you always knew who you was battling. No, but like in the park or like whatever, whatever. Yeah, I do I'm talking about if I just go to the park wanting to battle anybody. Yeah. I'm talking about you tomorrow.

I got a battle. Like, you knew who you was going to battle tomorrow. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But I'm saying, like, just had the Saudis pull up the country. curtain and jazz is standing in you'll pull up the curtain is fucking yeah like the curtain go up on the stage and jazz the rap

is standing there you gotta go out I mean battle rap I'm not saying it's getting stale but I like that they've been trying to switch things up and I think more male female battles could be cool I didn't like the two man thing but I get it it was just trying to there's only so many times you could just have two people on stage

fucking insulting each other and saying they carry guns like you got to switch things up at some point but I mean I don't know I think jazz, she just put out her three rounds. Like, she should just go to Times Square and wrap them. About Lux? Yeah.

No, I don't do that. You definitely don't want to do that? Yeah, no, wake them up. Why? Why, Josh? I was just curious. Josh, while he's producing, decided to go on chat, GBT, and to write a disrespectful but clever battle rap verse aimed at Mall from Rorya Mall

with punchlines, wordplay. Okay. Mall think he'd a cool one, Mr. Low-key Fly, but he'd a background, noise, the ablip. Wait, hold on. Okay, hold on. Wait, before I read this, more than not volunteer to get roasted. So let's, I'm...

We'll cut that out. Like... I mean, you know, I can rap too, though, so what I'm saying? But I'm right this shit. ChatGBTbt wrote it. I'll go at ChatGBT.T. I'll go ahead. Chat GBT. T'bent. For 250, I battle chat Gpti. Oh, I'm gonna need a little bit higher for Chat GPT. Like, nigga, I don't plug you.

5G stopped working. Fuck you talking. about chat gvt wrap you right up niggia you'll start in the battle just by unplug it would be the funnest fucking unplug the modem none of this shit working you can't get on chat gbt nigger fuck out of here um all right well shit let's let's do that i mean after i smoked damaris in our uh pusha t battle you you know we can go after chat chagin t most people said that i won right push the t said that i won okay that's because push it knows you i don't know him we don't have a rapport That is funny.

Y'all, that's because he knows you. We don't really have a strong rapport. Yo, if Damaris knew Pushing, he would say she won. He for sure. He for show up. Josh, we do that I'm paying him. You know what? That's funny because if Pushing felt like Damaris won, he could have just sold Rory, like, yo, she smoked you.

He could have just said. He didn't hear the whole. He saw a piece of the clip. He saw a piece of the clip. He didn't see the whole thing. He didn't really see how she was delivered. He didn't get to all the bars. He saw the entire thing.

So that's coming up. Some of them went over his head, honestly. Some of them went over push his head. That's what I. That's what so. Due to therapy, I've gotten much better at not, and not. Yeah, still doing that thing. Oh my God.

Better help, 20% off, New Roy and Mall. I've gotten much better at not holding on to things, but I'm telling you for the rest of my life, I am going to hold on that I smoked Damaris in that push-a-te-t battle, and I'm still upset that you guys didn't even understand how deep my bars were in that. You keep saying smoked. Even if someone was to think that you won, you did not smoke me in no way, shape, or form. Y'all should just do it again.

Why? Because it's like it's like, it's like, I don't even know who won no more. I don't even know who won't. I don't remember the bars. The YouTube comments said I won, and the YouTube comments hate me. They wanted to say you won. Why you said they hate you? They had all got. Go read them one day when you had the free time.

No, but why they hate you? Because there's certain platforms are just more misogynistic than others. Oh. Who, did Mike fight the night that popped out? He knocked him out in 30 seconds. Did they ever get a rematch? No. Why would Mike ever take a rematch when you knock somebody out in the first five seconds of a fight?

I don't know if you knocked him at herself though. He didn't. He wasn't even close. I don't know, bro. I beat Rory and everything and he's really trying to hold on to this. And the only reason why he's able to hold on to this is because pushing himself said that he won. That's the only child syndrome. You know that.

Ah, makes sense. He's used to throwing the tennis ball to his bedroom wall by itself. Look at the things you guys have to go to discredit me. I don't have the same rapport with Pusha. You're an only child. Like, look at what you guys have to go through. No, I'm just giving her, just ammo for her next, her next boss. That's all.

Just right from the perspective of the, ooh, right from the perspective of the sibling he always wanted. Ooh, if you go there, baby, D, you might uncover some trauma. You might make this nigga cry. I'm getting a little misty now. No, right from the, I'm a right from the perspective. You know, right from the perspective of the sibling he always wanted. Nah, from the teddy beer. In his room?

In his room? Oh, his posters that was always, he always talked to his poster. Yeah. Oh, round from the perspective with Torel Davis. I never, I never talked to my posters, okay? I never talk to my poster. Oh, my. Hey, baby, Dee, if you ride from a Tarel Davis perspective and with his jersey,

he's not coming out the round. He's not coming out the round, baby, Dee. He finished. I'm letting you know that. He's done. He cooked. It was one of the greatest running backs of that time. So, that is so funny.

You think I was wrapping to my slam magazine posters? Oh, my God. Peace and Vince Carter. Holy shit. I definitely had the Vince Carter one hung up. No, that's funny. Shit. Nah, I had to do that.

Yeah, okay, cool. I'll cry in the car. But I'm going to get so vengeful that I'm going to find her real sibling and do some kiss and style shit. You're going to bring her sister style? 100%. See, you go over there, fuck with my sisters. Now, I got to talk from the perspective of that nigga that touched you.

See, now I'm wrong. Oh, Father O'Malley. We was at the rally. Yo, baby did go there? You out of here, yo. What was the rally? Tell me more. And why were y'all there together?

Yo, getting touched at a public rally. Oh, shit. Yo, y'all are fucking sick, man. Oh, my God. Yeah, let's do it. I'm paying for that. Damaris got balls for you. I know she writing some shit.

She got balls for you. She's waiting. She is waiting for you. If y'all don't cancel Demaris for rapping from the position of a pedophile, I'm canceling her. That would be the sickest perspective of all fucking time. Not even Kendrick went there. Yo. Yo.

Yo. No, you got to question somebody that rats from the point of view. Oh, my God. Lucas not even doing that. Yo, that is craziness when you think about it. Okay, but if you were to wrap from that perspective, would you at least compliment me? Like, they found me attractive. That's why.

Nah, baby, you got a rap from the perspective of the robe that he wore when he had no clothes on the day. I'm the choir boy. I caught you all, but he kept it quiet. Yeah, yeah. He was happy it wasn't him. You know how crazy? We have to stop. How crazy was when I found out that when you get communion, you didn't need to stick out your tongue.

You can just go like this All right That's okay Hold on Hold on Hold on Hold on Hold on

Hold on They told me He wasn't allowed To touch Christ We Wee That's calm now Yeah

Yo Who was at that To hold The boy To stick out His tongue Um That was a dolly long

It was one of the Yeah One of them He got your tongue He forgot the cameras Was rolling He forgot He forgot where he was at

What he said? We said Give me your tongue Stick out what he said That didn't I can't Remember To tell a little boy to do

No but honestly, in the Catholic church, not for kids, but for everybody at one point, like, if you see people probably in their 80s that are still at your Catholic church, some of them will stick their tongue out. They feed you to a cracker? Yeah, some people, this generation, yeah, we do this, but the older generation adults, kids, you stuck your tongue out. You weren't allowed to touch unless you were the priest blessing the body of Christ.

You had to stick your tongue out. And then a priest with no gloves. all 100 people would just be throwing the body of Christ on everyone's tongue It's funny because I remember seeing that as a little kid And feeling like that was odd Like I remember those moments like

Like just putting something in your mouth Like I just never I always felt like that was a little weird Like yeah Feeding me nothing like what the fuck is that? No it's nuts Yo did you ever see that video The little uh the black kid that found

He was in the church and he found the communion And the grape juices And he crawled into the thing And his father found him And he was under there But he went through about 40 of them shit. Y'all never saw that video?

No, but that's hilarious. Oh my, that is one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. You know, this little nigga was under there. All in a little cup. It was like 40 of them empty. Throwing them shit. All right. Well, then that kid is a fucking Doberman because the body of Christ is like a saltine.

You know how hard it is to chew the body of Christ? Like, eating that many bodies of Christ is. No, no, it was just the grape juice. Oh, okay. I thought he was eating all the community. No, no, no, it was just the grape juice. Oh, that's hilarious. All right, well, Mall finds that video.

Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. These are sponsored by Boost. Of course, everyone that called in on Patreon was using a Boost mobile phone. And they did it for only $25 a month. Unlimited data so they could continue to send us voicemails. I had like a quick kind of question. So I'm a laid back type of girl and sense if you do me wrong or if we end, I don't, I don't, I don't.

break stuff. I don't cuss you out. I don't, I just leave. I leave and I just like boss up because I feel like that's just the best way I could make you feel like you messed up. You're going to miss this. But like, talk to my guy friends. I realize that men actually like when girls are a bit crazy. Like I did not realize this, but when I hear what girls be doing to them and they be going for it, like look going through the phones, cussing them out and they still entertain and like, still like, low-key sometimes miss the girl. And some of my girlfriend's also crazy. and they say like, oh, yeah, it's not like he going to leave me and stuff like that. And I'm like, yo, should I, my job also Haitian.

So for me not to be crazy is wild. Like, I promise you, I'm actually really calm. I appreciate the self-awareness. With Warren mall, are y'all more enticed with the like spicier girls? Do you like it when a girl can kind of like show you like, ooh? And Demaris, do you see a difference when you leave men, like how you leave them if you leave them quietly or if you like, you know, cuss them out. like they kind of still try hard try harder for you i guess let me know also i made y'all that young boy playlist thank you ma'all for responding i hope you i hope you actually listen to it because

i made it worry you never opened my DM but it's okay still love y'all oh okay i know that is because i'm a good christian man so she made this is a young lady she made me um well made obviously sent it to you to a NBA young boy playlist about his best songs yeah She sent it to me so. Yeah, Millie sent me after that segment and sent me some young boy joints that were really good. Yeah, and once Millie's had the coson, I was like, all right, I'll give young boy a real chance. No, I mean, I always knew he was talented. I just never got into his music like that.

I feel like any way I answer this, Demaris is going to just laugh at me and call me a fucking lie. Yo, I wasn't even going to. When she started talking, I said I wasn't going to say nothing. I'm going to let you lie. Go ahead. I'm going to let you lie. I'm cool on that now. Now, okay.

See? He's lying. He's lying. I know. Stop clapping for that again. You can't clap for a liar. He's lying. He ain't cool on that.

He likes that shit. You like seasoning on your food. You like hot sauce. You like, that's, you know, like the thrill. You like the excitement. You like the passion. That's what you like. Like the passion.

She really loves me. She cares because she broke all my stuff. No, I don't think that at all. She loves me. I think you can fall into a bad hole of being addicted to chaos that you think is love. I think that can happen. You can fall into a bad hole addicted to chaos that you think is love. Yes.

I think... Yeah, some people don't know what a healthy relationship is. Yeah, I think in... You know, if you go to certain rallies as a kid, sometimes you equate love to chaos. You think a functioning relationship is one that is dysfunctional. So, yeah, was there a time where that was definitely a part of my life? And I'm not saying it's completely gone.

You're recovering. Day to day. Still doing my 12 steps. I'm maybe on the second step, but we're getting to the 12th. It's all right. Day by day. Yeah. But not.

Even like when we all you're saying, joke around of like oh crazy shit's got the best pussy even if that is true sometimes like it's just not worth that like once you get old and exhausted I never understood that I can't keep up with insanity like I just don't have it

in me where maybe in a bad way it would drive me at one point and keep me moving now it's I'm too exhausted I don't think it's cute I don't think it's passion. I don't think any.

I just think it's an awful way to be with somebody is to be the crazy human being on both sides. Yeah. You got to know. And it takes a, because in my dating history, I definitely was in dating women that I realized like,

oh, you don't know what a non-toxic relationship is. I mean, you dated an Italian woman, so. Yes, I did. Like, I mean, so. And, you know, you got to realize, You don't know what a healthy relationship is. You don't respond well to a healthy relationship. You're used to chaos and you're used to arguing and fighting and things like that.

Like I'm just, I'm the complete opposite. Yeah. Once I see crazy shit and you start yelling or talking to me a certain way and it's just like, oh, nah. Because no matter what, I'm in a situation where I'm going to lose. Yeah. So I just get out of it immediately. Like, I'm cool. I'm not dealing with.

And then you got to know when to walk away, too. like, you know what, she's not, she's not used to, she's not used to the type of relationship that I'm used to or that I want. I don't like noise, chaos. I don't like arguing. You're going to have disagreements. You're not going to always see out of eye. We understand that. But I'm talking about the disrespectful energy, you know, things like that. Like when it's to that level, just get out of that because it's not going, it's not going to do it. And I'm not saying people shouldn't be accountable for their actions at all, but insane people bring the absolute worst out of you. they will push you to a place that

meet that energy that you will get there like who you surround yourself with not just with friendship but also in relationships is who you become like so I also you guys are right but I wanted to know how you leave I'll tell her in a second

but I do want to clarify what she's what she's saying because she's not just saying women who just want toxicity and are crazy it's not what she's talking about she's talking about when someone does you wrong your reaction to that because she says when somebody does me wrong or whatever, I'm just, or I'm ready to break up,

I just leave instead of the reaction of the crazy and burning his stuff and doing all of this because he did something wrong. I think that that is important because people who just don't want peace in a relationship are completely different from people where you fuck up and then it's I turn into a different person. I just think that those are two different scenarios. Yeah, no, no, for sure. And I mean, her overall question is what exactly?

because I know we just went on a tangent about just being my crazy reason. Her overall question is, do you guys prefer for women to fight for you and do all of that crazy shit when she's leaving or to just leave peacefully? Fight for me when she's leaving? Basically like or fight for me when I'm leaving. Like, do you, are you turned on by women acting crazy when you fuck up? No.

Okay. That's what she's asking you. I'm not turned on turned on by crazy at all. That actually turns me off. That's a complete turn off. when I see a woman acting like that and just going crazy. It's like, I'm not like, because you know, first of all, I know it's not me. It's something else deep trauma somewhere that's now just showing itself.

And it's just like that has nothing to do with me because I'm not me. I'm not talking about people in general with me. I'm not doing anything in my relationship with a woman that would require her to act crazy and do some shit like that. So that's why if she starts doing that, it's like, whoa, like the fuck? Like, you tripping. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. He's talking in reference of like you catch a niggie cheating.

Oh, no, now, you catch, if you catch your partner cheating and, you know, I think that having a reaction that's deemed to be crazy and wild. And, I mean, I think that that's warranted. Somebody feels like they've been lied to manipulated, hurt, you know, things like that. So that's most people's reaction is to just do something erratic and out of control. But not everybody is emotionally intelligent to handle situations like that of, you know, finding out that, damn, like, she's cheating on me or he's cheating on me. Like, you know, it just depends on the person.

But acting crazy for me has never been a turn on. Well, I mean, I don't think to that scenario, if you find out somebody who you thought was being truthful with you deceived you. I don't think you're crazy if you have your immediate, erratic thing. I wouldn't say it's a turn-on. Yeah, it's not a. Yeah, I wouldn't like get hard. But also the opposite, I feel like in that scenario with human nature, if you do somebody wrong in that way and then they freak out and still stay, I think that probably would, the average

person would continue to push that boundary because they know you're going to stay. Whereas somebody that just quietly leaves, you lost that person. like now you have to really be accountable for your actions. Like what you did has ruined this relationship. This person just moved the fuck on. That's going to fuck, if you really want to piss somebody off, that's going to fuck them over more than you freaking the fuck out and then staying. We had this conversation.

Are you a closure guy? You need closure? Not anymore. You need closure? It would depend on a situation. Yeah, I used to definitely need it. I don't need it anymore. It depends on the situation.

I don't need it, but would I like it? It would depend on a situation. In retrospect, anytime I tried to get closure, there was nothing closed. That's just some shit that you got to deal with you on your own. Nothing closed. Everything was open. Like, there was no conversation where anyone left feeling better. And this was like, you know what, this chapter's closed.

Yeah, like that was great. Closure only comes within yourself. And nobody else can give you closure. Yeah. I think conversations of like, hey, I would just like to finally know the truth of all the shit so I can go find closure myself maybe is helpful. But even that, what are you going to do with that information? Sometimes it's better to just not even know everything and just move the fuck on.

It's the age gap between us, but y'all going to get to that point where y'all just, you just don't give a fuck no more. You just like, it literally gets to that. Like you be like, I don't need, bye. We don't need to talk about it. We don't need clothes. Bye. That simple sometimes.

And again, it takes, you know, experience and years. But when you're secure and know who you are and know the role that you played in the relationship and you know that I didn't fuck this up, I tried everything I could. When you know that you've tried every, you know, angle and everything to help and make it work, you just get to a point where you just like, you know, enjoy life, bye.

Yeah. It doesn't need to be no more than that. It ain't no crying. It is none of that. Like, it's just like, all right, bye. Yeah, but that also comes from a place of somebody that did do everything that they could, did their part.

A lot of people don't. So that's why shit lingers because now they're just trying to find excuses to make themselves feel better when their shortcomings is the reason why something split. Yeah, not everyone puts in all the effort that they could on certain things. And yeah, so they can't find any closure in it because they know subconsciously they fuck this whole shit off. Like 100%. So yeah, that's a rare thing I think these days. To answer her question, because she did ask me, to answer your question, stay continue doing what you're doing the reason why men like that crazy shit is because it's the ego

boost they're insecure and they like the ego boost of the oh my gosh she's crazy over me she's this she's that that's why they keep going back they because they like the ego boost it's the ego it's a boost to their ego so just keep leaving quietly please like i've made that mistake of leaving loudly it does nothing it's just it literally just pumps niggas heads up like look at this bitch look at this dummy i got like nope never again she crashed out yeah she crashed out yeah she crows crashing out over. Is that what you feel about? As someone that has admitted that they've had issues with their ego,

anytime a woman has done wild shit or like destroyed something, I've never, my ego didn't feel better. Because, because. I never was like, I never was like damn on the men. But see, this is the thing.

Maybe not with you, but with some men, some men don't take that type of girl seriously. The girl that's going to go crazy over them. They don't, they'll be in a situation ship with them for years, just to get their, reaction. Like, it's a different type of, like, insecure. So maybe not with you. That might not apply

to you, but I've encountered men. I've seen my friends encounter men who will be and take serious, the calm girl that's serious about her shit and that respects herself. But they'll keep that one around for the ego boost. They'll keep the one that's going to crash out and go crazy. But the one that they take serious is the more peaceful one. But again, that doesn't apply to everybody. Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like the deranged, like just seeing the amount of text bubbles and shit being destroyed, I'm cool. Cool and all that. Keep that shit away for me?

I'm not reading that paragraph. They don't read the paragraphs, ladies. They don't read the paragraphs. They don't read the paragraphs. They don't read the fucking paragraphs. Stop sending them. Yeah. Keep yourself worth, please.

They don't read them. And like, shit, when you destroy it, when you destroy shit in the place I was renting, yeah, I may lose my security deposit, is what it is. Once you have a home, no. Don't. No. All right, well, I think that's probably a good cue to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, man, I didn't mean, you know, we don't want to.

No, no, no, no, I mean, listen, man, you know. My house is in tech? No, I get it. I get it. The house is not a home. There's no one there. But if you do date the crazy chick and do want to burn your own house down for insurance money, can always blame it on her.

There you go. All right, well, it's good seeing you guys. told to you guys in a few days. Yes, absolutely. Everybody be safe. Everybody be blessed. And we'll see y'all soon. Talk to y'all soon.

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This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and Venture, capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they failed. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green, co-hosted the podcast The Away End. with my old friend Daniel on our podcast,

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