New Rory & MAL - Episode 413 | Pink Timbs

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

And we’re back! TGIF. LeBron had us fooled thinking he was gonna retire, but we should’ve known he ain’t ready to hang it up. Verzuz is back with Cash Money vs No Limit, but Mal wants to know who’s going to take the stage before he makes a prediction. Rory and Mal can’t believe the number one song on Rolling Stone’s Top 250 Songs of the 21st Century list. Plus, we debate if Mariah Carey’s new EP had AI on the vocals, JLo and Ben Affleck are never going to stop seeing each other, and a caller needs to hear the hard truth after her admits he fell in love with his best friend #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. Nothing's on auto page. Maybe you saw a Hennessy ad? Ha ha. Y'all hate LeBron so much. What do you do to you? You don't hate LeBron? I was actually going to come in here and I feel like...

Who is? I hate LeBron? I'm one of the few people that thought it was hilarious. You don't hate LeBron. You just don't give him the credit he's probably due. When have I never given LeBron credit? I've seen you scream in Don Cannon's face about it. Oh, when it comes to being better than Jordan? Yeah.

No, nobody's a better basketball player. Fair, but you like go extra, extra, extra, extra in. Like, yeah, you start throwing in like maybe Antoine Walker's better than him. You just be throwing in random shit. Now you just like, now you just say it's nice, but then you be like, oh. You just saying anything now. No, I've never done that. Only when it comes to LeBron being better than Jordan, do I get involved in those.

And I'm not, I don't even debate that anymore. I let people have it. Well, we all thought that LeBron was making, or announcing rather, his decision to retire. And this would be his last year. We'd get the whole fucking goodbye tour. nasty jersey trading. He wasn't going to retire like that. He wouldn't do that again.

We'd get his son starting at point guard for the last game. LeBron would try to score 100 against the jazz or something when everyone was injured. Like that's what we figured we were getting this year. But nope, just selling liquor. VSOP. Listen, man, y'all wanted to stop doing any Paloosa. Somebody had to pick up the baton. That's what you think it was?

That's LeBron. You think LVMH was struggling that much that they were like, damn, we lost Paloza. Yeah, we got to go get LeBron now. That we weren't partnered with. We got to go get LeBron James. The influx of Hennessy just on a Saturday in New York City has gone down. We don't get LeBron now. I mean, we talked about it when he had posted the trail, I guess.

But I knew that LeBron would do that because LeBron feels like that's one of the worst decisions he made. Of the Miami. Was making his decision the way he did to go to Miami. Yeah. So it was no way that LeBron was going to announce his retirement like that. Like that, it was just no way. I thought it was maybe a Chipotle commercial Choose between chicken or beef

That was the decision You know what I'm saying But I mean it's Hennessy Makes sense LeBron has a tequila doesn't he? I believe he still does Is it Los Lobos? Something like that yeah

I believe he still has that So he's in the he's in the spirit's wine And spirits game And I've had that skill up before It's actually pretty good I mean Do we think this is just a power move On the music side

for LeBron. Maybe Nas wanted to bring him in on the A&R tip and they could do maybe the Henny compilation album presented by VSOP. Maybe behind the scenes, you know, Nas has felt his career is just, you know,

not in the best place. He kind of needs Braun to get there. So the incentive, nods is like, yeah, welcome to the Hennessy team. Welcome to the Tennessee family. Just give me a deluxe

and we're good to go. Yeah. Advertising is hilarious. Are we going to drink? more Hennessy now? Well, I can know. I don't drink Henny, but I'm sure some people are like, you know what? Let me try that LeBron Henny.

Even though it's not LeBron Henny. It's the same Henny VSOP that they've had on the shelves for years. Burled for 400 years. Yeah, but it's, you know, it's LeBron. He's behind it now, so, you know. I mean, well, I don't knock it. Get your money, LeBron, especially getting closer to retirement. I thought it was a very funny ad.

And I feel like LeBron knows that no matter what he does, there's always, there's always going to be a large group of people that are going to hate everything he does. So lean into it and give him more ammo. No, this is LeBron's. This is his time to have fun and kind of lean into things on the Internet that people hate him for and talk bad about him. Kind of lean into it to have fun. This is this. He probably has about two years left, I think, before he retires.

All right. Well, how do you think he'll do his retirement announcement? Um, I mean, it's going to be a big announcement, but I don't think it'll be, you know, unexpected the way his announcement to Miami was. I think, you know, he'll allude to it. He'll probably say it before the season starts

so he can get the victory lap, deservedly so. He's one of the greatest players ever. He inspired a whole generation. A lot of these superstars or young stars that in the league now grew up idolizing LeBron. So he deserves his victory lap one last season.

So I think he'll announce it before the start of whatever season he decides to retire. I think it would be at the start of that. And, you know, he'll enjoy his victory lap. He deserves it. At what point do you want to just, like, give, not give up, obviously, but, I mean, your son is in the league now. Your other son is incredible.

Probably will go to the league as well. Like, I don't, I don't see the Lakers winning it in the next two years. Like, could be completely wrong. I just don't see it. Like, do you maybe just retire? Yeah, but I think I think. Spend some time at home. Well, it was, you know, we talked about it.

20 years? 21s, I think. We talked about it years ago about, you know, I felt he was waiting for Brony. So he could be the first father, son, you know, players in the NBA. And we got that. And I think it's realistic for him to wait, wait on Bryce too.

I think that he's, you know, I know he had spoke about it. He said he's not because he doesn't know what Bryce is going to do. How many years Bryce is going to play college? Yeah. I think that's cap. I think LeBron knows exactly how many years Bryce plans on playing. One.

College. But I think that, you know, he's waiting for Bryce. I mean, he got in, you know, he was on the floor with Bronny in the NBA game. So I think he's like, listen, I'm still here. I'm still healthy. LeBron is still playing at a very good level. He's still one of the best players in the league. Still very productive.

So, I mean, listen, as long as his body holds up, see if Bryce, you know, he gets there and get on the court with both for your sons and just like really make it a thing that I don't think we'll ever see again. I mean, listen, he may not have as many rings as Brady, but he has held on to his family by overstaying his welcome in the league. So, I mean, I've respected. It looks like a great home over there. Was that a shot at Brady? No, I love Tom Brady. Okay.

No, no, you got a manned question. You called him a unit. No, I wanted to start the new family. I was happy that they got that bitch out of it. the way or where you're loved tom i can't remember forgive me how did cobi announced his retirement he announced it at the beginning of the season but was it a thing yeah he got a whole victory lap no no no of course i remember the season of course but like was it a sit-down announcement i don't remember jordan when he was retiring for the first time it being a thing with the wizards

it was just like yes it's probably over but like big announcement retirement shit is it well he had to poem, right? He had the dead basketball poem. Okay. Oh, Brian can do that with Chad GBT tomorrow. Yeah. So, you know, he, did he announce, did the poem come out before the season? So that started the season? Yeah. Okay. Wait, did he read it out a lot? Like, was, I guess I used Bob. Oh, yeah. Okay. I remember. I remember. Players Tribune.

All right. Well. Damn, that was 10 years of shit. Yeah. Wow. 10 whole years without coves in the world Well yeah I mean anyways With that said Go ahead Shit on LeBron for having fun for a change

At his old day VSOP though VSOP If you can drink any We have versus is finally back I was actually excited to read this Yeah at ComplexCon They will be doing Cash money versus no limit

I was excited to walk in here today And debate this I don't know if any anyone else was, but this could be a really, really cool versus. So this is going to be a ComplexCon? Yes. Live from Vegas. They need to do this shit in the, what's the thing?

The sphere? The sphere. The sphere would go fucking crazy for this. Wow. Okay, so wait. So cash money is going to be there on stage. I'm also asking, is no limit going to be there on stage? Yeah, like I...

This could either be the greatest moment in hip-hop. or one of the worst. No in between. Yeah, because I'm not, no gray area. It's a, it's just,

it's just so much. It's a lot of questions. I have a lot of questions. This might be scarier than Gucci and Jeezy. Yeah. Because who's there for cash money? I mean, like who's,

I, they've done a hot boys reunion. Okay. I think things have changed since then. They changed. Then they've changed and they've done another reunion. Yeah. So, it's like,

who's still in, who's still in, who's still in, who's still in communication, who still has a relationship with who, no limit. I mean, I don't know who. I'm sure Silk will be there. Master P will be there.

Isn't Mystical in? Mystical's locked up again. Oh my God. Master P. One of the greatest business men of all time. Why are you taking a versus with your star player in jail? Yeah, that's why I don't understand what. I just don't get who would, I don't know.

It's just a lot of, A lot of questions in the air. Who's going to be there for both sides? They could probably still play his music, though, even if he's in jail. No, they can't. They're not playing Mystical's music. Well, yeah. It's like the first era of No Limit though.

Do you know why Mystical's locked up again? Yeah, I'm going to say, well, we know what Mystical's in jail for. Yeah. Why would they be playing his music? If you think that's going to stop No Limit from playing Mystical, you guys are strongly mistaken. I think it is. Okay, so half the 90s is gone for No Limit.

Like, because then you can't even... That's why I'm saying. in here looking so confused as to why this would be a thing because now it's like, okay, what are we doing on both sides of this? Cash money seems to be in a better, you know, standing with each other than no limit is, I think. Like, I just don't know. Salada, when is this October 25th?

This October? It's just tomorrow. This October funny is shit. I don't know about this. I don't know about this one. This one might be, this might be a mess. And like, I mean, I think if you're going off the 90s in early 2000s, yes, it's a good versus, but does cash money get young money? No.

No. I mean, my money is cash money. All right, so let me ask you, all right, let me look at you guys on the out. You think Nikki is showing up to this? No. You think Drake is showing up to? No, I don't. So what are you?

You guys saying they're just going to play mystical records. I can't play a Drake. No, I told you they're not going to play any mystical record. Well, they said they got Snoop, Doug. I'm sure they have snoop. Vegas, L.A. right there sitting in the jet snoop will be there um but that's what i'm saying okay we got that's one all right well hold on brace do we think wayne will be there yes yeah i don't i don't think

burrman is doing this without wayne co-signing it because that's juvie will be there most likely juvio definitely be there and juvies in like performing shape bg will probably be there i don't know what birdman and bg's relationship is right oh okay manny fresh will be there get some big time I'm saying. It's just a lot of who's showing up to this? That's my only thing. It looks, listen, the flyer looks great when you put cash money versus no limit. We know the history. We know the music. But then when you get down to now, you know, versus is a performance. It's not like, you know, just DJ's playing records. So now if it's a performance, who's performing? Yeah. Well, y'all think Lil Romeo going to be there? For sure. Definitely.

And first of all, Romeo got some joints. Let's not act like you're not throwing Lil Romeo on the mix. Who's and not acting? That's making me more... I'm talking to the listeners, because I know some people are probably giggling, like Romeo didn't have some joints. But let me brace for

I hate white hip hop fans' opinions. I was not a big fan of Snoop's No Limit error. I don't even know the records that are going to get off in Vegas with Snoop on the No Limit side. Neither was I. Like, what is it really performed?

They'll probably cheat and just play Snoop songs. Nah, they can't do that. That's fucked up. That's not. We're not doing that. Then he's allowed to play best I have a act. Yeah, like that's not no limit.

That's not, you can't do that. got to play the songs snoop it out on no limit. You can't just play joints from doggy style. Like, you can't do that. I did we get thug for at least the first tape. That was cash money. Legit cash money, not like a sublabel like Young money. You said Thug? Young Thug was signed you cash money at one point. What? Yeah. Him and Rich Homi Kwan had the table of Birdman and everything. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it was paperwork to put it. They were on cash money.

that's what I'm saying so look what we're at we're going down the young thug like cash money but that's but when you go further down the bench that's what separates a team

like like I said the 90s no limit in cash money that's a great matchup but the further you go down cash money it's not even fucking close yeah I just don't know

who's gonna be to perform though um like shout out to Turk I love Turk where's Turk yeah like are they flying up to Vegas Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. It looks good, though. I mean, you know, we know the history. We know the music. We know that time, that error was, you know, one of the best, especially for the South. But performing now in 2025 with people not having relationships and not being on speaking terms and things like that. I just don't know what the performance of a versus looks like from these two labels. I would love a scripted series or a proper doc about New Orleans at that exact time.

Not just the cash money story, not just the no limit story, but just New Orleans in that time. Because both their stories are absolutely insane. Two of the most iconic rap labels ever. And then once you get into the alleged criminal side of both those, it's like, that's its own series in its fucking self. Absolutely. But, I mean, is Silk the Shocker going to be there? Absolutely. There's an article, sorry to interrupt, about Turk is suing cash money over kicking him off the anniversary tour.

Okay, so he won't be there. So we got that answer. So Turk will not be at the sphere. I think it'll be Mani Fresh, Birdman, and then Lil Wayne's only going to perform, man, I miss my dogs while none of his dogs are there. You don't think Juvia be there? Maybe. You don't think BG would be there?

I told you. The Vigy K, Birdman thing, changes depending the Vlad interview. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's, like, things like this is, again, because of so much personal, you know, things that's going on, it's, I just don't know what it looks like on stage. I just don't know if it's... Think Monica will perform on C. Murder's behalf? No, I don't think, I don't think so.

I think it'd be a nice tribute. Monica and Brandy's going on tour, though. Oh, for real? Oh, wait, weren't they on tour already with a... No. No, they're going on. We talked about it. They're going out to her.

It starts really soon. Coco Jones, Kelly Rowland. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's Barclays, right? Mm-hmm. And Newark, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, we might need to go to the Newark one instead.

Oh, the aunties is going to be outside. The aunties? But the young aunties, though. Cocoa's going to bring out some a new generation. Brandi and Monica going to bring out some young aunties. I think young aunties is like 40. Like 35, 40. Yeah.

They're going to bring out, yeah. Yeah, they're going to bring out. I'm just saying those aunties, too. They got to get home. There's a lot. There's going to be a lot of crock pots left on. They're leaving the crock pot on, go to the show, come back. Oxtail Ray.

Falling off the bone. That's what the aunties do. They know how to time brandy concert. Yeah. They off of work the next day, too. I think I might go to that. I want to go. Randy Monica?

I got to see that. With Kelly Rowland and Coco Jones. That's crazy. I don't think I've ever seen Brandi live. Neither way. I don't think I've seen anyone on that. List live, maybe Coco Jones. I think I've seen Monica.

I've seen her somewhere. Somebody brought her out on the set. But I've never seen Brandy sing live. I want to hear Brandy sing folded. When Brandy get up there, sing folded by Kaylani, I'm going to melt into the floor. She's on official remix today? So Kaylani is releasing an EP full of folded remixes. Brandy will have one, Tony Braxton, Mario, and I'm missing somebody.

Jojo is also remix in it. going to be a EP of Kailani remixes. That's interesting. Yeah. Like putting out an EP of the same song, but just like But they're redone kind of. So like Tony Braxton's is called Unfolded, which is kind of switches the purpose of the song. Brandy, you know, she's doing all her vocal layer and I can't wait to hear the way Jojo flips hers. It's going to, it's going to be amazing. I just saw Tank

released something yesterday. I think it was Get Folded. You know Tain got to get it. He got to make it horny. You know Tate. Tain just be horny. You know Tain be horny. He's got to make it morey. He's still in the gym. He don't mean, he just come out, testosterone. Like, turn the mic on. I'm horny.

Like, that's what take do. Pause. Who's horny here? Brian McKnight or Tank. That's a wild versus. Nah, tank. I'm going to tell you why. And I fuck a tank is the homie.

I'll show you how to make your pussy work. Yeah, but that's just talk. Didn't take perform at a gay cruise or something like that? Yo, that's, that sounds tankish. It don't get horny than being the heterosexual. and be like, you know what, I'm going to gay cruise and get my balls off. Isn't that the opposite of horny if you heterosexual?

No, because it's like, you know, it's like, you know, nobody's hornier than gay men. First of all, nobody's horny than men. So imagine gay men. Okay. Never have their period. So it's not, they can't say, not tonight. They can't do nothing.

It's true. Yeah. They're always ready. Mm-hmm. Tank went and performed for the gays. Yeah. All right, so Tank treated the cruise like prison. Like it doesn't count if it's here.

Okay, so it wasn't a cruise. The boat was dock. Yo, making the, make it up in the cruise part is fucking killing me. I thought it was a cruise. I thought they said take was on a gay cruise or something like that. But he performed at an LGBT, LGBTQ pride event. Oh, well, I mean, it's events. So that means he was booked.

Oh, for sure. It's not one. It says events. That's plural. Yeah, you got to perform a few times. You got to do like pain steps. You got to perform for the L's, the Gs, the Bs. I don't think they separate.

I don't think they segregate the boat. Oh, okay. The Ls are in this hall. Okay. All right. Because then the Bs is just everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely want to be all access.

It was weird? DC and Dallas. Oh, DC for show. DC, it was, ooh, that's gay heaven. Man. DC? I think all gays want to die and go to D.C. Well, the ones that want a high to go to Illinois.

Or Miami. Miami's big gay capital? Like a big gay population too? They got a big, yeah, they got surrounding neighborhoods that are all like gay people. Surrounded neighborhoods is funny. Surrounded. Like it's white, like, it's white. Like, yo.

Like it's redlining. They don't let them like, oh, shit, but like, they push them out there like Surveillance in the areas. I'm for real. Let me tell you. It was their GI Bill after World War II. Maybe they pull up the surrounding areas.

Hold on. Hold on. You hit Josh for allotted there. How do you know that? Josh. Your dad is a full Lord? Listen. Wilton.

Wilton Manors often called Florida's gay cap. and the vibrant city of Fort Lauderdale, which is, which they're nearby. I know, I literally was on the phone with a friend and he was like, yo, it's mad gay people skating around my hotel. Yo, it's mad gay people skating around my hotel. Yo, you know how funny is. Not knowing where you at and then you walk out your hotel. She's like, there's a lot of people on rollerblades.

For real, that's what he was like. He was like, there's like a lot of gay people around. And I was like, I never knew that. So I looked, I looked it up and I was like, oh, you're in like the gay capital of like Florida. I never knew that. Yeah. Had no idea. Damn, man.

You know, New York, like we lost. Wildman is like West Hollywood. Yeah. I never knew that. Oh, they have a gay village. I feel like it's one in every city. Yeah. Like, it's like a, it's like a Soho village in every major city.

Yeah, at this point for sure. And then there's like Portland, which is like extra extra. Like Portland is probably what that place in Florida thinks is. thinks it is at this point. Okay. And I mean, shit, New York, we lost hip hop. We've lost the best restaurants. And we lost the gays.

Like, we used to be the gay capital, too. How do we, like, we, best restaurants. I feel like you can now get good food everywhere. Like, the allure of New York food-wise. I go to Vegas and get the same. I was going to say Vegas has, like, Vegas is, like, known for having really good restaurants now. Vegas is just a fucking carbon copy of every major city in the world.

Yeah. You go to Vegas and think you in Paris. Like, but they'll spend the money to get it right. Like, the New York restaurants in Vegas taste. exactly like New York restaurants. I don't know, man. I still think New York... In Chicago, they say Chicago has amazing food.

Chicago has great restaurants as well. But I still think New York is the capital of... Like, you can get good pizza almost anywhere now. Y'all say that until you go somewhere and order pizza and be like... Is ass? Yeah, I don't think you could just get good pizza anywhere. I can get a... I'm a pizza snob, though, so I'm a little different.

Oh, shit. Yeah, I'm a pizza snob. I know good pizza, but I can I have good pizza. I can... As soon as you bring it out the oven, I could tell it ain't enough cheese on that. The crust is too thick. I could just look at it and tell. New York up, like, per square mile, you can get a good slice where you can't do that

in any other city. But if you just, like, rival the best in New York versus the best somewhere else, it's not going to be that far off anymore. Like, they've learned. I don't know if it's the internet. Like, they've just learned. Like, you can literally roller skate with a gay and get a good slice in any city in America now, where that was strictly just a West Village thing.

I love when you go out of town and you, you, you, you, you, you, you, pass a pizza spot and it's called New York pizza. Yeah. It's like, nigga, this ain't New York. I don't care which I name. This ain't New York Pizza. New York Fried Chicken is in every city now. What is New York Fried Chicken?

I've never heard no New York Fried. What the hell is that? It's like just the chicken spot. Oh, you're talking about like. They have a bunch in Baltimore. Kansas fried, Kennedy fried, all of those. Yeah. Like, shit, everywhere in D.

New York fried chicken. It says it everywhere. That's weird. Yeah, I don't want New York Fried chicken. Me either. Yeah, that's really not a good. Yeah, I'm cool. But, I mean, I don't even know how we got it.

How do we go from cash money to no limit to gays roller skating in Florida? Oh, Tank. Yes. That's a great. That's a great bag, though. Like, you know, as a heterosexual man performing and singing R&B at the LGBTQ plus event. And looking to where he looked. Yeah.

No, Tank did numbers. You said, what beat? What does that mean? Because I said, Tank looking the way he looked. Tank is attractive enough that even gays will find him attractive. Like, he's attractive. He's in shape. Like, yeah.

No, Tank doesn't look gay. But tank is. so fine that even gay men will find him attractive and they hard to please. And they hard to please. They are probably the biggest critics we have. Gay men? Yeah. Respectfully. Yeah, I would say

they're the highest critic. Okay. Women only care about gay compliments. They don't care about us. Well, women are gay, so that's that. Saying that's that. I'm just saying they are. Yeah, that just ends that combo.

Yeah, they are. Women are gay. I like it, though. Well, anyways, yes. ComplexCon will be streaming this. I will be signing up. I did see that. I'm going to watch because I'm just interested to see how they're going to pull us off. For sure.

But I'm nervous. I don't know if this is that, Peach. I don't know if this is that. I don't know if we want to do that for this. Was it the Kirk Franklin? What was the one that they had like technical issues and we all watched for like three hours and then they just rescheduled it? Babyface, I think. There's any baby face and Teddy Riley?

Yeah. I think that was it. It was one of like the first performance. Babyface was throwing so much shade. Yeah. I think this one is going to be that. We'll reschedule to a later date that never gets rescheduled. Yeah, I'm nervous, but it is exciting to see cash money versus no limit anywhere.

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Truthfully, I just looked at this before we started recording because, again, I'm starting. Of the 21st century so far? Yes. Okay. Number one. I don't need to start a 250. That doesn't care that much. Number one, Missy Elliott, get your freak on.

That's the greatest song? Of the 21st century. Get your freak on? Love it. I mean, it's a great record, classic record. Number one? What do we do, man? Y'all know I love Missy.

I mean, I came on here and raved about her Chicago show. Like, one of the greatest we have. But get your freak on is not the number one song. It's not even Missy's number one song. Yeah, it's like the 21st century? Yeah, nah. Then we get right into yeah, yeah, yeah, maps. Okay, I see what's going on.

I get it. Number three, Beyonce and Jay-Z, Crazy in Love. Then to the White Stripes, Seven Nation Army. then we get to Taylor Swift all too well then Robin dancing on my own Kendrick Lamar all right radio head not even going to try to pronounce it

Britney Spears toxic then Frank Ocean thinking about you closing up the top down toxic better than autumn songs that's before it Britney Spears like I ain't even got live all right too like what okay

See, I was going to say that, but you know, if I say that, it just seems like... All right. Number seven. It's too high up, but it's better than all the damn songs they mentioned before it. I mean, all right. Instead of shooting on the list, let's try to give some positive critique. Some things we're happy to see. Okay.

I think it's great that Sizzas snooze is at 13. Okay. I think Snooze is one of the greatest songs of our generation. Yeah. I love that Daddy Yankee Gasolina got its props. at number 14. That was groundbreaking. Outcast, bombs over bad act.

I'm not mad at that at 15. I'm really not. It's definitely one of the biggest songs of the 21st century, for sure. But it's also not the best outcast song of the 21st century, but, you know. Would you take Ms. Jackson over that?

I would, yeah. Okay. And I don't even think it's close. Hey y'all? Mariah Carey at 16, We Belong Together. It's better than every single song. that y'all have mentioned so far.

That song played on the radio for like two years straight. You couldn't escape it. It was on the radio for two years straight. I think if they would have put the Kiss and Stiles remix, it would have maybe made it to 12. Is that B. Cox and J.D? I believe so. We belong together?

Hotline Bling is not a good song. Why is that number 17? You don't think Highline Bling is a good song? To be on the top 21st. No. That was a big record. It doesn't matter how big it is. Laffy Taffy was a big record.

That doesn't matter. someone's like we're talking about good hotline bling is not a good song Drake has way better songs than hotline bling oh no I agree with you but I mean it's we can't say that it's not one of his biggest records though yeah it's one of his not one of his best are we talking about best or biggest because if we go on by biggest then we go on by numbers and all of those songs well I think that's what they're doing well no then God's plan would have to be before yeah exactly but I mean I don't think hotline bling is a bad song at all I think it deserves to be on the list but I think There's bigger Drake records that would go before that.

But I mean, I don't hate Hotline Bling. I don't hate, no, I like Hotline Bling, but that doesn't make it a, like, when I'm thinking best songs, I'm thinking like a good song, not a catchy song, because Hotline Bling is a catchy song. I mean like a good, really, really well put together, like, record with depth. But maybe that's not what they're looking for, because look at what number one is. You know what, never mind. Never fuck it.

Never mind. Hotline bling is where it deserves me. I'm about to say if get your freak on is number one. Anything after that is like, you know. It's like, whatever. Just, you know. Let's just put the songs in the hat and just pick them. Adele, when did Adele's first album come out?

2011. Well, I don't think that was her first album, but 21 is. Someone like you, the best one there? I mean, I love that. No. 19. Someone like you is not the best on 19. Rolling in the deep is the best on 19.

I could see them put rolling in the deep. at number one. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Steve Lacey, Bad Habit. I mean, I'm not mad at it.

I'm sure he's mad at it. He's definitely mad at it. He's livid at that. Lady Gaga, bad romance. All right. Whiskey, Sam's Essence. Don't shit on bad romance.

I've only heard a chaplain song once, and that was at the fucking whatever award show. You heard, I was just a good pick right here. DeAngelo, how does it feel?

Yeah. There's been some, and, I mean, you have to see the thumb of the hell too. Josh out the gate of a, yeah, I know where the gay is all. My dad was there. And now he's shirtless DeAndo picks. He knew the gate outskirts of Florida. But yeah, my dad lives there. Don't worry about it.

25, 99 problems. Better than every song on the list. Better than every single song on the list. Like, what the fuck are we doing here? Yeah. That's me, but you know how these lists are. They just. They throw names in a hat.

Yeah. Rihanna, we found love. That shit could have been number one. Yeah, that definitely could have been number one. I feel like any song that you play as soon as New Year's, the ball drops, I feel like that's going to be like, that should be the top of the list. Except fad ball drop because that was the worst New Year's song off. Nah, don't do that.

See, why people do that? People don't give that record enough credit, bro. That record is not a bad record. I say it every year to piss you off every time at the end of the year. It's not a bad record, man. It's not a bad record. It's not we found love, but, you know. Don't act like you guys didn't play a big,

Draco and Drake, we made it on New Year's Eve, whatever year that was. Nigger, we made it. They dropped that shit at like 11 p.m. on the 31st. That was one, I wish more artists did that with records. They knew were undeniable for, for New Year's. Drop like New Year's Eve? Yeah. Or like the 30th or something to give it at least a day to get in the algorithm.

Because, yeah, as much as I love, we found love, I've done like, I don't know, 15 New Year's ease with that record. Beyonce formation number 32? They are a better Beyonce song I mean I love formation I feel like me myself and I could be a little higher Yeah this is I don't know man Maul I finally agree

I'm done with the list I tried to tell y'all man These lists are like 250 though is absurd Like I think lists of 50 that we debate Are tough I don't even know how to debate 250 songs Thank you next deserves to be higher

If them the songs on the list Blind and Lights deserve Blind and Lights is number 41 Let's say the biggest song Spotify history. How was that number 41? Oh, call me maybe. That's a great record.

Yeah, it's an amazing record. I just went up to the top of the list just to try to get like a gauge what the two 50s were looking like. At 249 tweet, oops, oh my. Great record, by the way. Wow. Don't do that to tweet. No, that record is fine.

That's a big record. 249, I was like, come on. It's just funny to go from that. And then at 248 is Fleet Foxx. this Tiger Mountain Peasant song. Scarface My Block. Okay, listen, I'm not mad at it. Classic.

Classic record. Classic video, too. Absolutely. Yeah, this is, this is all over the place. MacMiller 2009, that's random, but I fuck with that. I respect that.

That's like one of my on the low favorite MacMiller songs that I don't think really gets, it's due. But yeah, All right. I mean, they got us again. Day and night might need to be hired in 237.

Yeah. That needs to be hired in 237. That was a big record. I mean, listen, man, they had to put John Prime there. Yeah, they had to put it there. Jim Jones version, shut up, Peach. Is balling on there? Balling got to be on there.

Shibuzi needs to be higher. I don't like that. Is balling on this list? That's a stat for Jim if balling is on his list. It's sucking or not on this list. Oh. No, sucker or not. needs to be in the top five, I'm dead ass.

For sure. I'm dead ass. Suck it or not. No, y'all don't understand. I could really do a whole soliloquy on how good suck it or not is as a song. Yo. It's a fucking amazing song, bro. But it sounds like you got like a little nostalgic, like you're going down memory.

I have, I have freestyles from when I was like 10 years old to suck it or not. Like I. Why was, because kids listen to shit, they have no business listening to. But yeah. How'd you remix? Yeah, like, what was your, what was your balls? What was your angle? I think it was.

Oh, God. Nothing appropriate for a 10, 11 year old. That's what I'm, okay. So now that's what I'm getting to. Whatever your bars was, 10 year olds wasn't supposed to be writing those bars. It was bad. It was an ice cream truck. Yeah, of course.

It was naturally. What was it? Remembering those bars. Now, you can take your time. We'll actually stay, we'll actually stay quiet during a podcast for a second. Just to give you the practice. Oh my God. If I was to call my cousins, they will remember.

They'll call him. Yeah. Yeah. Now we got Wi-Fi here. Please call your cousin. I really, all I remember is ass. pink, well, ass out pink timbs. I can't remember the, I read.

Ass out pink timbs is crate. All right. Never mind. I swear to God. No, no. Because then y'all get mad at me. Ass out pink timbs for a 10 year old. It was bad.

It was bad. You get beat with those pink tims. Yo, let me walk in my daughter room and she rhyme and ass out pink tim. With the thames I bought her. What? Listen. Ass out pink timbs. I'm going to hear the next ball.

Like when you went from there. God, I cannot remember. I cannot remember. When you go from ass out. South Pink Tim. I'm going to DM my cousin right now. Asked that journey. As South Pink Tim's.

I mean, for age appropriate, though, that would be a great start to a verse. She went, she went in Game Float, Red Rose White Silling. Yo, can y'all please? As out Pink Tim's Red Rose White Sill. It works. Game, you can add it. Yo, Game is the funniest nicket. I don't want to tell you how many times I watched that clip would Game be acting like he don't

know what he's about to say. He was like, yo, what I said, red rose white, still. All right. My favorite one of it, though, is when they're in the parking lot and he asked the fan to freestyle and the, whatever. And the game is like, he walked around the parking lot, like, yeah, mine done this is so long. I don't even know what I'm going to give him right now. Shit, I don't even know. Like, made. Red Rose white silly. Yo, game is the sickest thing ever for that, man. I got to, I have to defect game a little bit. era though that was happening because bro.

It wasn't the internet like that. You couldn't get caught doing it. Every rapper could get caught doing that at the time because niggas was taking the same bars across the entire country. Yeah. Because it wasn't like going to on the radar where everybody's going to hear it.

And now I got to get rid of those rhymes and write a new one. It was like I was just going to radio stations and I didn't know what they was playing at L.A. radio back then. We didn't hear that shit. So you can go from L.A. radio and then come to High 97 and give us the same bars.

We would never know that you spit that in L.A. We wouldn't know that. And shit, half the time what they would spit at, like a flex freestyle would end up on the album. Yeah. Like some of our favorite hove flex freestyles are songs now. Like, he spit PSA as freestyle. Red Rose White Silling got it, though. That is classic.

That is platinum. It's one of my favorite internet like jokes too. Like what people say it out of the internet is fucking hilarious. Red Rose White Silling. Ass out Pink Timbs. That's your red rose white sillar. You got to start every rap would ask. As out.

Yo, you know what? So I swear to God, I will send you the screenshot. I wrote my cousin and I said, do you remember my sucker or not verse from when we are kids? He said, so I approached him. Ass out out pink tims. How could I forget a Coke classic? I swear to God. Ass out pink tins is crazy.

That's your red rose white similar. What is the rest? That's DeMaris's red rose white selling. Ass out pink tims. That's how you got to start every freestyle. Like what I say? Can we get? Was that in her push freestyle?

Huh? Was that in her push. No, it was not my push. I don't repeat my bars like you. Where I repeat it. I don't repeat my bars like you, Rory. Roy, she don't rap. You take the same bars all over the country.

Damaris don't do that. Niggins, y'all. What if y'all walk out the office to just see me freestyle against somebody and I'm just like, yo, ass out pink tims. I'm gonna just keep walking. I'm gonna just keep walking right past you. Just be battling people.

It's funny that DeMaris's cousin was like, how could I forget ass out pink tibs? I have to know the next bar. Yeah, like what was the next bar? I really forgot what a, It was. Ass out pink tims. How could I forget a Coke classic?

Had her head of her time, too. That's like her Nikki, uh, pink wig, uh, thick ass, thick ass, givac. Like, yeah. Nikki might owe baby to some pub. So you might have smoke with Nikki now. She stole your shit. Now this. Ass out pink tams from a 10 year old is fucking crazy.

I don't think y'all, y'all, y'all missing that part of it. A 10 year old wrote that. Y'all cannot let your kids hang out with their older cousins. Y'all really can't. But that's why when people, like, when it was all that outrage about when Wap came out and they were like, oh, my God, the kids are listening to this. I'm like, man, we was listening to Trina and Lil Kim back in the day. I have no business. No business listening to shit like that.

Suck it or not at 10 years old. Like, we had no business listening to that type of shit. But our parents, like, our parents didn't know what we had access to because now because of the internet, the parents know that we're all on the same internet. Like before we were on the internet, our parents weren't. They had no idea what the fuck we had access. That's why I be laughing now because I keep always tell you I had to sneak and listen to doggy style. And my moms would not let me listen to that shit. And now my mom knows more about Snoop than I do.

She said, you know Snoop did I'm like, how do you know what Snoop doing? Like, what are you watching? Well, Snoop is the black Martha Stewart. Yeah, but the fact that my mom knows more about what Snoop has going on in his day to day now than I do. And I couldn't listen to him. Like she would fucking take my fucking cassette and hide that shit when I was a kid. Baking with Martha's a little different than the jackoff hour. That is true.

And parents are more our parents were more trusting of TV that it was like, okay. Like I shouldn't have been watching the Big Pimpin video at 12. No. But, you know, my parents are like, oh, yeah, you could trust TV.

You can trust this box. Don't worry about it. Look at Carson Daly. He looks so nice. Shout out to Vince Staples, season two of the Vince Staples show. Yep. Trailer came out today. Well, yesterday, if you're listening to this.

Had a great conversation. Well, that was like a podcast. we had at just session. Oh, yeah, that was... In L.A. with Vince, and he gave us the whole story about what he had to go through to get this season done. Yeah. A lot of ups and downs, a lot of obstacles he had to get through.

And, you know, I say it all the time. Vince is one of my favorite people. So I'm happy that he got this done. Excited to see the finished product. Support it. I told you, this is the first show I ever watched. Well, season one was the first show I ever watched on Netflix where I actually thumbsed up at the end.

I like that. Yeah, because I mean, because Vince had tweeted about it like it helps. Definitely does, yeah. You know, with the show and things like that. Driving like our shit. Yeah, so I definitely, that was the first show I ever watched on Netflix where I actually hit thumbs up at the end of it. I thought the first season was great.

And again, just knowing the backstory of everything he had to do on his own to get this to get this season done, I'll definitely be watching this. And you should too, shout out to Vince Staples. Yeah. The Vince Staples show, Season 2 trailer out now. November 6th? November 6th. And yeah, I mean, the trailer looks incredible and it looks much different than what season

one was. Just from down to the plot to how it's shot. Like, yeah, I'm excited to see this. And again, to echo what you said, knowing what he had to go through for this, it made me smile when I saw that the trailer got posted today. Yeah. So, congrats to Vince, November 6th. He's having a much better week than Tim Westwood.

What happened with Tim Westwood? Well, all right. We talked years ago. Tim Westwood, there was some alleged like handsiness. He had gotten fired from BBC radio. There was allegations, but he was officially charged with four counts of rape. Oh, wow. Wow.

I mean, it was from TMZ to BBC. It's all, you know, rep... Yeah, we know that Tim had been... That's why he's been off the air for so many years. Yeah. He was dealing with a lot of this, so... But at that point, it was, you know, a lot of just allegations, stuff within the workplace. You know, this is criminal.

from assault to rape. 1983, 17-year-old girl was allegedly assaulted in London. 1986, a woman in the 20s was allegedly indecently assaulted in London between 1995 and 1996. Females between the age of 17 and 18 were allegedly raped in London

between 2000, 2001, another female 17 to 18 allegedly raped in London. 2010, another one in 2010, 2016. Yeah, this is crazy. So let's get Tim Westwood out of here. So simple.

I mean, everyone is definitely owed a fair trial. But, I mean, this. When the rumors have been going on for this long, somebody's not lying. Somebody's not lying. There can always be somebody lying. Yeah. But there's always somebody that's probably not lying.

Somebody's telling the truth. So, yeah, obviously we hope justice is served in the best way possible for everything here. But, yeah, I don't know. I mean, if he would. as a DJ in the States, would this be bigger news? Well, yeah. To what Tim Westwood was to London. This is probably big news in London, though.

But this is probably all over the airwaves in London. Obviously, because of the internet and things like that, we know who Tim Westwood is. We see his videos. We see his artists. They used to go up there in freestyle. But, you know, people from the UK have been talking about this for years. Yeah. This has been something that, you know, they've known for years and I've talked about.

But now he's being officially charged. with these crimes and these assault. So hopefully justice is served and victims can find some type of peace in that. But we will never be supporting Tim Westwood again, either way. No, absolutely not. What are London jails like?

I don't know what the prison system outside of America is like at all. Like in Canada, like are people scared to go to jail? Yeah, everywhere, anywhere. In the world, you're scared to go to jail. But, I mean, the jail systems are probably better than America. Okay. Yeah.

I watch a lot of those shows on Netflix with the guy he goes he's locked up I think he's actually from the UK and he was wrongfully convicted of murder and he did some years in jail now he goes around the different jails

around the world just to see the conditions okay some jails around the world are really nice it's like wait this is a prison like some prisons they don't even lock the doors

you can come and go as you please in certain countries and then you get to certain countries where it's like literally because these people have no family that are, you know, sending them money to get food and clothes. They're literally eating out of the sewer from the jail.

Oh, for sure. Like they fish out of the sewer, like scraps and like eat and drink, shit like that. Yeah. I mean, we're not great, obviously, with private prisons and the charges that people get locked up for and our judicial system's a fucking mess. But yes, I'm aware that there's way worse jails in the world. Oh, yeah. There's not even fucking running water.

But there's something that's incredible. They're like college dorms. When they showed ASAP Rockies Switzerland Yeah that shit looked nicer than my St. Peter's dorm and I mean he shouldn't have been fucking locked up Either way but like God damn

Yeah they didn't look like right Like I take a little R&R and what I got to do in Switzerland Yeah let me go sit down I was wild last night Turn my phone off Yeah I'll go sit down Pushups Yeah get my mind right in here man

Would you guys ever do That show what is it 30 days in Where you have to like pretend No hell no Those people are sicker than I think like the survivors. When they find out you the mole or you the rat. So explain it to me because me and I'm sure a bunch of other listeners don't know.

So I believe is that, that's not an FX. No, that's A&E. A&E. A&E. Thank you. People volunteer to go into jail for 30 days. They don't commit a crime. They just do this for the reality show. And they pretend to be prisoners in a prison system and just like exist.

And yeah. And they kind of got to just see how people live in the jails. Yeah. But then, you know, people in jail, they start asking them quickly. Like, what you're in for? Da-da-da. Like, okay. Like, your court day, da-da-da.

So, you know, people that in the jail system, they know when something ain't adding up. Like, you said he got arrested for stolen property and like, but he should have been home. Like, why was he in for 30 years? You know what I'm saying? Like, they start putting two and two together. And then everybody was like, yo, you're a cop. Like they start asking like, you're police or something? So it's a good show, but I would never do no show like that.

First of all, I'm not doing no show where I got a sleeping. Is there a sleep? money no this is just the experience like they just want to go in there and experience how they live in the jails i do want to know though like what would be a funny scenario where there would be like a money prize like if you don't get stabbed there's 20 k like if they don't get shank if you don't get shank you get a hundred grand yeah like if you if you control someone else's commissary that that's 10 more yeah if you control the phone for hour yeah like i give you 5 000 if control the phones they got to do sims uh jail version who was it that did uh uh uh

A live stream for jail. Was it Drewski? No, it was in it, but it was in a guy. Wasn't it Kanye? No, he was in a, he wasn't in jail. No, he hit Kanye's dressing room with like a jail. Yeah. When he was staying at the Mercedes Ben's, is it the Dome Stadium?

Like his dressing room, he kind of had it. Which I don't think it was intentional. I think he just put a cop there and it just looked like a prison. That wasn't Kanye in one of those videos, though. I'm sure. Yeah, that wasn't him. Like, it was the one dude that had the whole mask on. You could tell that wasn't kind.

That's like that's not Kanye. I felt that way when him and game performed at Donato, too, when they both had on the masks in the same outfit, I was like, that ain't game. Yeah, that's not, that wasn't kind yet. But I think maybe in the Latin America one on, oh yeah, there's an FX version. I think there's a cash prize if you.

30 days in? If you, yeah, because some people like tap out after three. Isn't it 60 days in? 60 days in? Like, there's different versions. Yeah, there's 30 days here. Oh, you did just 60? All right.

30 more. How do you even like sign up for that though? Like the vetting process for casting must be hilarious. I think some of them are correction officers, aren't they? Some of them like a correction officers. I mean, that's just undercover at that point. Yeah, some of them are cops.

Do they still do scared straight or did that, like, did we get too sensitive for that? These wines ain't scared or no. You can't scared. That scared straight. That shit ain't worked. Did you? It worked on my generation because I actually went to Rikers with my school.

We actually went to Rikers and like, yeah. Yeah, like, I'm glad to hear that. That shit. What? When they closed that tight-ass cell, I was like, wait, you sleep in here? And it don't open until the morning. So, you know, at home, you used to just open in your room door, go to the bath and go to the kitchen. When that door closed and you and that tightest, you're like, bro, I would lose my, I'm too claustrophobic.

I would lose my mind. I would have an anxiety attack as soon as that door a lot, knowing that this shit ain't going to open for another 12 hours or something like that. What? I think I'd be more scared. in the dorm style, Rikers than in my own cell. No, put me in a dorm. I need open.

Nah, that's too many people. No, I could deal with these names. My head got to be on swivel. Like, now you locked that big ass door and I can't open that shit and just take a walk.

Nah, nah, no. I go crazy. It's funny you said that the, the Wyans are not scared. The Michael Chase show that we love, it's severely underrated. Did you see the sketch

where they did scared straight and all the young kids in jail were terrifying all the inmates? Like, they shot. them, stabbed them, beat them up, everything. It's one of the funniest sketches. It's exactly what you said.

Why Scared Straight can't happen now. These kids are wilder than the people that would try to scare them. Yeah, it's not, it was a great idea. It was a great experience for me, like just seeing how people live in prisons. But that's, I don't think, it's too much, we have too much access now. It's too much access. People see too much. People are desensitized.

Like, this generation is not, they're not really scared of anything. Some of those kids in that show got a raw deal, though. Like, there was a kangaroo court. But some kids, like, it was like, armed robbery at 14. Then it'd be like a 15-year-old that talked back to his mom. I'm like, they shouldn't be in the same program. Yeah, no. Juvenile decisions.

What are we doing this young kid? We're going to scare him into trauma, not to a better path. Yeah, he's just not listening to his mom. He's not a bad kid. And then what was the, that shit still goes viral, where he tells the kid your hair is uneven, the gay guy. You look dusty. You look dusty. You look dusty.

You're not that cute. I'd have been like, thank you. He missed this opportunity and be like, yo, thanks. I don't care if you're not attracted to me, niggins. Fuck you talk about. Cool, thank you. I appreciate that. I wish they would do some type of interview series or something on TikTok

where they find some of these kids and we get like of where they at now. Because I'm sure it worked for some kids. Oh, no, I definitely work for some. They tell you at the end of the show, like, yo, he's been back in school. He hasn't missed no school. Yeah, but that's 15 to 16. Some of them at work. They'd be like, yo, I'm not coming.

I'm not being locked up. Fuck this. But some of them you can just tell, like, you can tell, man, when you're talking to some of them, you can look in their eyes and tell, like, yo, he's not scared.

Especially if you're one of those 15, 16-year-old kids that's like six feet tall, you're not finished growing. Yeah. You like six feet, 190? You look at them,

niggas like, I'll get in here and wrestle with all. I'm not scared of none of y'all. It's the smaller kids that are like, oh, no, I can't come in with these grown men.

But these young kids that be like six feet, 180, 190, they're not, They grow men. They don't care about that shit. And some are like the drug charges those kids had. They had to be like somewhat smart.

Like you can't do that unless you have some form of intelligence. They knew they couldn't get touched. So they didn't look scared at all. Yeah. They was just sitting there like, all right, you're going to hit me? I like seeing how the female prisoners live, though. When they be doing each other hair and shit, they get creative as a motherfucker in there. The female prisoners?

No, how they die they hair. They used the Kool-Aid and all that. I mean like, yo, y'all bitches just like, y'all go to. jail and get creative. Kool-Aid for the head die? Kool-Aid and peroxide. You did that in the free world? One of my home, yeah.

When we were kids, I didn't do it out my hair. I did it out of my home girl's hair, yeah. Her mother wouldn't technically let her dye her hair. So, peroxide and Kool-Aid. All right, babe, you're not a chemist, though. So how you knew the measurements? Like, how you knew? I don't know.

We just was throwing shit at the wall and she was stick, man. With your hair? Not my hair. My home girl hair, yeah. Is she okay? Did it like it changed her hair color. I'm sure it broke it off eventually. But I was kids.

You know you don't stay friends long enough when you're that young to figure out if it was republished. They took all shorty edges and just moved on in life. He defried all the shorty edges out and then moved to another county. Prior members the freestyle and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ass out pink tips. Coolade hair.

Oh my God. Wait, so you just made the Kool-Lade with water and through the process. make the Kulei. You just use the powder. The powder. Which flavor did you use? Oh, I don't, cherry. I assume it was we was dining red, so cherry?

So just the cherry packet with peroxide? Mm-hmm. That sounds crazy. Sugar? No. No, no sugar, no hair. Yeah, that sounds crazy. That shit didn't start fizzing up.

Like, and then, because peroxide, you know, peroxide, that shit starts, when you mix that shit with other, it starts, like, fizzing. So I could imagine with that Kool-A powder, like, and you just sitting there whipping that shit watching that she's sitting there letting you comb that shit in her here? Y'all was in the house doing some bullshit. My friend Pierce his own ear in class with a lighter and a needle. Oh, yep, they used to do that too.

Where's he at now? I said, I want to know where that kid is. He's back, I've talked about him before. He's back in Tucson now. He moved out here when he was 13 because his dad got arrested for bringing in illegal immigrants. Bush era. And he went to come live with his grandparents.

One of my best friends, Lopez. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah, he took a fucking needle in class and pierce his own ear and it worked. Like, I'm sure his pierced ears now are from the, I'm sure it's still. I was never that bored, bro. He said it

didn't hurt. That's just bored shit. Like, piercing your own ear in class, like, you just, you're just bored. I mean, I'm opposed to, like, fucking times tables, I'm cool. Yeah, I don't know. Weird kids, man. Was he white? No. You said Lopez. Mexican. Okay. White passing Mexican. Okay.

So I don't know if that adds in some of that like demonic shit. Yeah. Never. Yo, what? Listen, man, white passing Mexicans, they turn into goffs usually.

You know that's like the majority of your fucking fan base. You might want to take that out. Is goff? No, white past and Mexican. One of my best friends, but I'm not,

I'm not saying that. I'm just. I have a black friend. Yeah. I voted for Obama. Twice. That's like when Kelly said, I like Latinos in the text.

Yo, I was crying. Yo, because you know when you read that, it just like, you know Kelly's a great person. Like, she's not a bad person. But it's like, texting that. You didn't know what that sounded like.

It's like what? I hit the ha-ha. I love Latinos. I love Latinos. What? Who's it? Like, it's like, yo, what? Like, all right, I guess.

Whatever. Look at my African-American. Yeah, look at my. Over there. There he is. All right, baby, Dee. This Mariah Carey. I came out.

Say what you said. Say what you said. No, I'm just saying, I didn't hear you supporting it. I didn't hear you say nothing about it. I haven't had the chance to hear it yet. Oh, you ain't even press play on Mariah. Right. I haven't had the chance to hear it. So I started playing it yesterday.

We was here yesterday. I started playing it because I was like, damn, I didn't hear nothing from the album. And I was like, is this an AI album? That was the first thing I said. Then when I played it, I heard it, I'm like, yeah, this feels like AI. The auto tune is heavy. And I told you that it's not, there's a difference between heavy auto tune and AI. Is it?

Yes. AI is you're having a robot or a computer system sing this for you. That is the same thing that singers have been doing since the dawn of time, Mariah just never had to do it. But because she's given us her amazing voice over the years, she's, it doesn't work the same as it used to. So she went to the studio, she sang and they pitch corrected. People have been getting pitch corrected for years. No, but I feel like this is different because they already have Moriah's actual vocals.

They know what her voice sounds like. I think they may have used some AI with this, though. Autotune, because auto tune to AI, it's different, but it's definitely different. It's different, but it's similar in a way of it's going to take your vocals. But then it's going to, you know, Autotune is going to make sure it's in the same key and things like that of the music. It'll smooth out what you're doing. Yeah. Now, AI, when you're talking about just the vocal of the AI because they have Mariah's actual vocals and know what she sounds like, they can implement it to the music.

And they'll probably have to use autotune as well. But I think there's definitely some AI. What is making you feel like it's AI in comparison to Autotune? because I don't feel like Mariah actually was in the booth singing this. But why do you feel like what I'm saying is when you hear it, what is telling you it's AI? It just doesn't feel like Mariah's real vocals. It doesn't feel like it just feels like Mariah's voice. It doesn't feel like she's actually saying it and then they just had to pitch correct certain notes.

It doesn't feel like that. It doesn't feel like she was actually singing that. It feels like they just used her voice in her like this. As far as you're saying, it doesn't feel like that. I want to hear it. I want to say sonically, what are you hearing, are you saying it doesn't sound like the way Mariah used to sound? Because Mariah doesn't sound the way Mariah used to sound. No, it just doesn't, well, sound and feel, though. Like, it didn't feel like that was, I can't, it just didn't feel like she, she actually laid those vocals to that song. Guys, clow me for calling things warm forever, but that's what I'm all saying.

Warm? Warm. Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't have that. Doesn't feel warm. Yeah, it doesn't feel like she's saying and they just had to pitch correct certain notes. It doesn't, it doesn't feel like that. I went back and listened after you said that yesterday. I think you're both right. I do think Mariah laid this down in the booth, but the same way, did you hear the first record off the Jadikis and Beanie Segal? Yes. I think they did what they're doing with Beans. They're using Beans' AI voice from his previous stuff because of the unfortunate incident that happened to him.

Beans sitting in there writing the shit, laying it down, and they're taking his old voice and putting it on top of what he cut to make it, you know, just smooth out and, and, in his vocal. feel like old beans. Yeah. I think that's what they did here. I don't think this was just a bit of tune and pitch correction. I think they laid some AI shit on top of what Mariah cut. That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah.

Sounds like AI on top of what she cut. Okay. To me, that's what it sounds like. I mean, I don't know. It's like too digital. I don't know. What I will say is, like I said, I know that Mariah has lost, you know, some of the VABAB boom of her voice.

Someone with what? The Vibovoon. She doesn't really strain her voice. Because of everything that she's done, she doesn't really use her voice and strain her voice anymore. I would be surprised if she did that because I know how much.

Mariah is a vocal snob, a music snob, a writing snob. She's been very, very critical of people, everybody when it comes to certain things. So for her to do that will go against everything that she's preached and I just don't see her doing that. I know using the auto tune is bad enough for her.

The auto tune being that heavy is very humbling to her, I would assume. So is that why? With live performances that we've heard like the raw vocals. Yeah. But what I'm saying is that's when she was younger. This is new, new shit. So I know that that's killing her to do that. So to put AI on top of that, it just kind of goes against everything she's ever talked about.

But I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible. This is where I like don't really mind AI like that because beans, for example, some shit happened. Beans is still an incredible writer. If we can use his old voice, his actual old voice, to help him and him only, I think that's fine. Mariah is one of the greatest singers ever. If we can use her voice to help her own career and not some bot or some random person, I think AI is acceptable. But is that why you haven't listened to it yet because you know it's not Mariah as you know her?

I just have maybe partially and maybe. I feel like that's what it is. I feel like if this is Moriah, Mariah. I haven't really thought about it. I just haven't been in that mode. Like, for me to listen to R&B like that, I haven't really been in that mode. You said what?

You're not in love? That has nothing to do with it. That has nothing to do with it. What mode are you talking about then? I've been in car. I've been listening to rap a lot. I've been listening to a lot of rap. Are you in that mode?

Yeah. You're back in that mode. Yeah. I love when baby D back in that mode. No, it's just, you know, I'm going to rap, like, music-wise, I'm in a rap. I also have not turned off Mariah to sign this problem. I have a theory why. Because Damaris is in love and she

feels very vulnerable that bothers her. So she needs to get someone for aggression back with some rap shit. Like, nah, fuck these men. Fuck all that. Oh, she's got to keep the edge. She don't want to get too soft. She's scared of the feelings that are happening and how great he's treating her. Yeah, but she got to show she ain't no punk.

Yeah, exactly. She got to like, all right, those flowers is cute and all that, but I ain't no punk. It's this cardio over here. Yeah. Bodega Badi. You still a bodega baddie right now? A little bodega baddie, yeah. Okay.

Yeah. All that love shit would make her feel even more vulnerable. Yeah. Women don't want to be vulnerable. Yeah. What in these days? No. I love a narrative.

You love narrative? I love a narrative. I love a narrative. Yeah. I love a narrative. Get your shit off. You see how Marla's trying to call you out with shit? Like, but I don't do that to him though.

What? Call me out. Nicky like, oh, you ain't in love? I'd be like, huh? You know, you say, huh? S-K. Like, move on. For sure.

I did move on. Now you repeated the question. No, I moved on. Then he came in and he added his red rose white ceiling. Yeah. What you want me to do? She did that I didn't do that

I shut the fuck up I got as soon as you said I was like alright I see what we on baby She ain't trying to go with it All right my bad You got it Yeah

Gotta say that for TikTok Well speaking of comebacks My boy soldier What? Soldier It's coming back Soja got new album I was Swage

Soge boy swag Seven surprise album Oh I thought you were about to say He's about to put out a surprise album I was like well Not really a surprise I know Is it out

He surprises it's out Okay. Because I could see Soldier Boy announcing a surprise album. Yeah, yeah. I could really see that happening. That's his type of shit. Like y'all got an album coming out. Yeah. Surprise album. Surprise album. First artist to ever do that. Announce the surprise album. Definitely some Soldier Boy shit. Swag 7, naturally. I mean, Swag 1 through 6 was classics. Is this a series? I don't know. I'm not listening. I didn't know there was a 1 through 6.

I would listen to Soldier Boy, but this ain't thing. You was what? I would listen to a Soldier Boy, just to see what it sounded like. In 2025? I would hear. Just to see, yeah. For real?

Yeah. Okay. No, if it's ass, it's ass. But, like, I would give it a benefit of it. You know, let me know what y'all think then. I'm looking at, the cover artist, cool? The cover artist. What does the music sound like?

Don't do that. Like, cover art won't intrigue you to want to listen to something. For sure. Yeah. For sure. I'm not listening to it, but I'm just, you know, that's just me. Come on. Letty Vatan is on it.

Who? See? Lost me ready. I don't even know who that is. All right. First of all, out the gate, they copy my swag. I do like that. I like when Soulge Boy talks to shit because a lot of people have copied them. Okay. I'm sorry. Were you guys trying to hear the first record or? Oh, my God, that's bad. Good beach.

It's like, come back in with that. Please. That shit is as if like gun and thug like took mushrooms or speed. Gunn and thug took metal. Fine and speed is funny. took speed and tried to record out. So now you see why I said I'm not for me. I mean, but I would give it a second to hear it.

It has some Migos and that's, maybe he's just trying to prove to y'all that they all copied his swag. The name of the song is they copy my swag and they had Doug Gunna Migo's style in that, like that's Big Draco. Okay. And he can do it without ever EQing anything. Just to have it rashly hurt your ears. He can still do it that way.

Well, listen to it. Let me know what you think. I mean after the intro. I think, I'm cool. I got, I got, I got, now y'all don't want to hit Swag 7, right? They didn't really grab my attention with the intro. Y'all better relax. He's violently threatened me before.

For real? Yeah, on Twitter. Wait, what? For what? Haven't we talked about this before? We've been talking for 10 years. I don't know. I don't remember anything.

No, I think we talked about this in 2015 when it happened. I was in Houston, and I forgot what I said, but he, like, said he was going to shoot me in the face on, like, on a public platform. I think I do remember that. But have y'all pieced it up? Or was it like? We haven't run into each other. We haven't spoken. Oh, right.

Damn. So it might still be smoked. You know, I can't get to the place as Big Draco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where were we ever piece it up? I don't got access to that. Right, that's okay. So, I might still be smoked.

Rory one of pieced it up. Ah, that's funny. Oh, yeah, here we go. So Big Draco said, what do you say? You don't, you don't me, bro. This worry, I'll kill you, nigga. Shouts is, I'll just swagger. Shouts the swag.

Yeah, I know, I think. go ahead, Roy, you stream that because he on your head. Oh, no, he kept going for like the whole day. Oh, he got, he got you more? I think it may have been the original. What did I say? Bro, Roy said, bro, you were making videos of yourself. Oh, yeah, this was on back and forth.

My Twitter and ICloud was hacked. Just changed on my password. You retweeted and responded to that with, bro, you were making videos of yourself. Soldier Boy then responds with, shut up, bitch. Just brought logic to the entire situation. Yeah, yeah. bitch. All right, well, stream Swag 7, man.

So you know what I mean? You're going to be on your head, man. Oh, yeah. Let me know what you think about it. That was a nasty time. This was... And sometimes you do have to tell people to just shut up. Oh, we're coming up on the anniversary.

Bitch, yeah. October 2016. Oh, you got to repost that. You think maybe that's why he dropped Swag 7 when he did. It was around the same time. Oh, okay. Yeah. He was thinking about you.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, come nine year anniversary. Yeah. Nine seven. See, you don't even know numerology like that. You're right. All right, forget you.

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symbol. Block spinners assemble. Block spinners assemble. She called for the avengers to block spinners. No, that's our leader. That's our leader. J. Lo and Ben Affleck reunite on the red carpet for Kiss of the Spider Woman. So people, you know, saying J-Lo and Ben are back together. But I'm one of those people that think J-Lo and Ben never break up.

They just need to break with each other. We just assume that they break up. Like, they don't, they don't break up. I actually think everyone shits on them. I think they probably have the healthiest. relationship of anybody. Like, we're just going to take a few years off, get back to it, do honeymoon again, ate each other and get a break. Or they're two of the biggest stars in Hollywood and they have things to go do and they're not together for a couple months. He's going to be in Batman. She's going

being made in Manhattan. Like, I don't know. What year are we in? Great movie. Don't laugh. Made in Manhattan is a great movie. We're not laughing at Made in Manhattan. Great movie. You would like Made in Manhattan. I love that movie. What do you love about Made in Manhattan? Has J-Lo ever- It's such a real story. You can see that happen. It's a Bronx Cinderella story. Yeah, it is. Has she ever dated a black man in any movies?

J-Lo? Them white been putting her through hell in her rom-com. Word. Yeah, I started to, like, kind of feel offended of how they try to typecast the white man that dates J-Lo in her career. Yeah. Like, only the main Manhattan was the only one where, like, homie was understanding even after she lied. Oh, no. He was, um...

I don't know how I want to. frame this but in money train Wesley Snipes was dating her and Woody was like yeah okay because he took her from Woody yeah you know I mean so she that's the black of the black it don't get black in Woody it don't get blacked I mean it don't get black Wesley Snipes black she dated Wesley Snipes and Money Train

Jennifer Lopez film love interest because I think Woody would like her too he had a crush on her and then you know she just the chocolate you know they can't deny that chocolate I mean I felt some chemistry between her and Ice Cube on Anaconda? No, you didn't. He was the camera man. I forgot about that.

He was just the camera. He was there for five minutes. Yeah, you didn't feel no chemistry between them. Oh, this is television. J-Lah has a lot of great movies. Y'all don't like Made in Manhattan for real? No, I really do like Made in Manhattan.

I would just never guess that you would love it. I love that movie. Is that like your Goodwill hunting? No, Goodwill Hunting is like... That's for the whites. Yeah, yeah, but... Maiden Manhattan is it? You don't like Made in Manhattan for real?

No, no, I do. I think it's great. Again, I don't think... You don't like that movie, baby, did? I liked it when I was younger. You was too busy ass out pink tim. She really had to. Anyway, I liked it when I was younger.

Yeah, she didn't want to have a romantic kid. I liked the wedding planner more, but I liked it when I'm... Good movie, too. Wedding planner is great. I mean, we can't... See, is that her number one? What is it? Number one, what?

Ralphian. Made in Manhattan. See? Well, I mean, does enough make the list? Like, what do we mean by love interest? What do you mean enough? Enough. the movie.

Oh, yeah. Does that count as a look? She's going through domestic abuse? No, I don't think that's up there. I think these feel good stories. These are feel good stories, Roar. But I'm happy that they're spinning a block on each other and giving their love one more chance. Yeah.

Yeah. Maude made Manhattan to whites only further confirmed that we knew you tried our clothes on when we left the hotel. That's fucked. It's all it did for us. Don't do that. Great movie. Too far? Yeah, don't do.

that. Do we think Bad Bunny's gonna bring anybody out for the Super Bowl? We talked about this. I think Jay Balvin, I think Cardi's coming out.

No, we didn't know about the Jay Balvin situation. I can't see Cardi coming out. No, he's not bringing up. Him and Balvin are not really on speaking terms right now. Carlos Santana?

No. It's Super Bowl. Is Carl Santana dead? I thought you're about to say did he already do the Super Bowl because I think he actually already did, but. Yeah, I think he did.

we did get the Carlos Santana guitar riff at the Super Bowl once. I feel like I would know if the god was dead. Well, it was somebody that played with Carlos Santana that died. Like, it was somebody close to Carlos Santana. I'm sure, but a lot of people. Fucking musicians on drugs.

Not bad. I ain't mean to put that on Carlos Santana. The legendary Carlos Santana, respectfully. Oh, no. Then Bad Bunny can bring him out if he did the pre-show. Bad Bunny did the Super Bowl already. Oh, he did the one where Beyonce and Michelle and Unumd reunited. He did that one. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, but Bad Bunny did the Super Bowl already. Half time? Yeah. No, that. What fuck was that? Jaylon Shakira bought him out. No way. In 20, what, 22? Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. Maw is in fact correct? Yeah. Jennifer Lopez and Shakira included guest appearances by Bad Bunny, Jay Balvin, and Lopez's daughter. Yeah. Bad Bunny wasn't, I mean, he was lit back then, but he obviously now, he's a fucking, he's a megastard. But yeah, they bought them out.

I remember that. Nah, and that was also, uh, Hove was already, he picked that, right? Hove did that one. Yeah, that was the first year they offered it. Now I gotta pull some, some flowers back with Hove.

You doubling back on Bad Bunny. You've only been in this shit for four years. And you're repeating guess? What are you, a club promoter? That's completely different. I mean, he didn't have a, he didn't have a, that's crazy. He didn't have a whole set, but Jaylon and Shakira

definitely bought him out, though. See to me, I mean, of course, bad Bunny is not like the, one of the biggest artists, but nah. You can't, well, it's been what,

four years that, that Hobbes been doing this? 20, five years. That was the year, I think Drake turned down that year because that was COVID year, I think.

I think he turned out maybe a year two before that as well. But then, yeah, J-Lo and Shakira, but, you know, there's too many artists

to repeat. Listen, man, you know what it. Bad Bunny, that thing, what he did was his residency in Puerto Rico.

I mean, I don't know how his fans feel, though, Because, again, he didn't do any shows in the U.S. Because he was in fear of ICE being at the shows and, you know, arresting some of his fans and things like that. So now some of his fans fill away because like, oh, but you do the Super Bowl. But the Super Bowl is, that's completely different.

What you mean? ICE is saying they're going to be at the Super Bowl. They were, I think they were going to be there anyway. They were going to be there anyway. And that's one show in comparison to one show and the majority of the audience will not be of Hispanic descent. Oh, that will never happen. Exactly. They could have Bad Bunny, Jay Bowler.

They could have all of them. Tego Calderon. All of them can be there. That audience in the Super Bowl is still going to be predominantly white. Exactly. They could open up with soccer before. Yeah. That's just what it is.

And this way he's able to give his U.S. fans a show that's cast, that's, you know, streamed to them, and they don't have to pay a whole bunch of money for it. And they don't have to pay any money for it. And, yeah. Well, I mean, if he's busy, maybe he brings out Shakira. and J-Lo. Give him the same set. I think this one to the face.

Yeah. I think he can do this one to do. Do you think he makes a political statement? Yeah. Yes. Without question. Okay. And I think

and I think he gets booed. I actually think Bad Bunny gets booed maybe before he makes a political statement. I kind of have that. Okay. I think we'll see he got booed when cell phone footage comes out. I think they'll, they won't mic

the actual crowd when the whole thing starts. I think you'll get just, they'll fill in with applause. But I think there'll be cell phone footage of like, this was the real sound of the stadium. And I'm not booing bad. I think it's great. I'm talking about the demographic that goes to the fucking Super Bowl. What type of political statement do you think you're going to make?

Like, I think you're going to have like, gay dancer. I got to learn Spanish. I'm not going to understand the political statement. No, I'm saying you think you have like gay dances and ice uniforms. The way Katie Perry did, with Baby Shark, Josh. That'd be fired.

There's a fourth comment, by the way. Let me tell you something. What is it on? What is the Super Bowl on Fox? I don't know this year. Man, they're going to cut that fee. So that shit

gonna go to a Pepsi commercial. You know, there's a big difference between Fox and Fox News. Way different. Yo, whatever that shit is on, if Bad Bunny come out there with some gay dancers and ice uniforms,

that shit is going to cut and go straight to a Budweiser commercial. I'm telling you right now. It's on Fox. They're cutting that shit. I think the way, the way the right is fire. up right now, I think people will think they're heroes by paying insane prices just to go

to boo bad bunny. I think that's how fired up the right. Nah, you ain't got that ain't got that type of funding. Oh, no, actually they do. Shit, BLM might be there. No, BLM show. They locked everyone up. Did they? No, Soros are still out.

That's where he funneled the money, well. You don't understand money laundering? Once P starts saying, let's go. Oh shit. I mean, do we say anything wrong? Come on, guys. We can have fun sometimes. Can we?

Yeah, I think we can. I just don't think sometimes our listeners allow us to just make jokes because they think they're too serious. No, but some, never mind. Do we have voicemail? You've got mail. And of course, this is sponsored by Boost.

Everyone called in from their Boost mobile phone. Yo, what's up, Roy, Maul, is Thomas for Chicago. It's just kind of got out quick. I'm trying to make this quick as possible. So basically, I think I'm in love with my best friend. She's a girl, and we've, like, been friends for, like, the past, like, two years or so. And we pretty much talk every day. Like, we're, we're, we're good.

She lives all the way in Texas. I helped her move to Texas. She's from Chicago. But she's always had, like, terrible luck with niggas. Like, anytime she talked to a niggott, he just be the most, like, he just be a fucking doffist smirts. Like, every time she talked to a nigga, he's just always doing some goofy shit. She just always go for, like, the yokey-doke-dook, whatever. And it's usually like, if a nigga treats her nice, like, she'll go for it, whatever.

And like, I always hate that about her. But, like, you know, I always talk to her, like, my home girl, like, my home girl, like, girl, what the fuck you doing? Stop tweaking on these dudes, whatever. And, you know, we always have this running joke of like, you know, at 30, we'll get married, a 32, 35, we'll get married and stuff. And, you know, recently, like, I'm sort of been kind of, like, feeling like really, really wanting to do that.

Because when we moved, right after moved to Texas, we shared a hotel room and we, like, culled to go to sleep. And, you know, we almost, like, did it for real. Like, we kissed and everything, but we didn't do it because we cared about the friendship. And that moment kind of really stuck with me. And that was, like, about, like, two months ago that happened. But, like, we still talked every day since then. But I think I'm, I think I love her.

I think I'm in love with her. She loves me, too. I don't know if she is in love with me back. But I guess, how should I deal with this? We kind of live states away. Yo, what's up, Roy, your mom? Yo, I need, I need. I need Zoom Zoom room.

Like, can you email him now? This is a Zoom Zoom room. I need so many more details. Like what happened after you guys almost did it, which is also a hilarious. Oh, there's a follow-up? Yeah. Oh, let's hear the follow-up. Thomas here.

So, yeah, part two. We kind of live states away, and we, you know, we still talk on the phone every day. But there was, you know, like, we joke about, you know, getting married at, 35, 30, whatever. I'm 27, she's 26. And, you know, we make that joke about that all the time. And we even joke about, like, you know, what if we would have done it? What if we would have did it?

You know, if we do it, like, will we fall in love with each other? And last night, you know, he was on the phone talking about it. It was like, yeah, no, like, if we ever do it, we should probably hold off on it because, like, you fuck around, that might be it. Like, we fuck around might fall in love for real. So, you know, granted trying to be friends as long as possible. And it's not like I'm trying to rush being, uh, and it was a lot of. relationship with her. And she's not trying to rush being relationship with me because I feel like I

ain't going to a lot. If I feel like we get into a relationship, that's going to be it. Like, that's going to be my wife for real because like, you know, I love all the qualities about her as a person. I feel like she loves all qualities about me as a guy. And, you know, like, we just might be a perfect match for each other. But like because we live states away, you know, whatever. So I'm a tattoo artist. She's like a teacher. And so like I'm trying to figure out like a way to make this make sense. Or I think, you know, we should just both live our lives. And if it comes together to that we do get together, then we should do that. So I guess what I'm trying to ask is like, how would you deal with this situation?

Do you just kind of let love, just like love each other as you, as you are right now. And if it ever happens, it happens or, you know, like, I don't want it to ever be like, what could have been type shit, you know. Thomas, first, first of all, stop saying do it. Like, this is not a Nike ad. You could just say, oh, you know, we almost- Trying to do the dirty deed. We almost made love.

Say made love. Thomas, go ahead and get your wife, man. Y'all love each other, your best friend. You've known each other for years. You're a tattoo artist. You can tattoo anywhere. You can go to whatever city she's in, move there, and get a booth at a tattoo shop.

And, you know what I mean? I know you got to get your clientele back or whatever. But, you know, if your work is good, the clients will find you. But don't let the distance. Don't listen to this. I had to, I purposely cut them all off this time. Why?

This wasn't one of those where I just cut off because I'm an idiot. I had to cut them off. Thomas, you seem like a really, really nice guy. I don't want you to get hurt. That girl don't like you. No, she don't, baby. She don't like you at all. Don't listen to them all.

How did you get that? How did y'all life fucked up over this girl that clearly does not like you at all? But why do you say she don't like him? They made out. They stopped any more physical stuff and went back to this jokey joke. What if we did it? Oh, we maybe just fall too much in love. She's keeping him on ice because she wants to keep fucking with other dudes that are way shittier.

And she's playing the long game. If she ends up being 35 years old. he'll be the nice guy that I end up with that, you know, has a steady job. You think you're like a man. Women don't play the long game. Women do not play the long game. Men play the long game. Women do not play the long game.

If she wanted that nigger, she would be with that nigger right now. But that's what I'm saying. She doesn't want to be with him. She's keeping him around just in case. No, I think she's keeping around because she likes him as a friend. I'm sure she's thought about sleeping with you and she's thought about it. But she don't really want to. And if she does do it, I guarantee you, it's like, oh, well, I mean, he's here and he's

great. He's a good guy. and this is that, but she's not, she don't want you like that. She doesn't. If she did, she would move on that. Especially because it's, you saying like, I'm in love with her. She knows you're in love of her. Women always know.

We might pretend we don't know. She knows. So he's too much of a good guy for her. No, I don't, I'm not saying that that's why she doesn't like him. I'm saying she just doesn't like him. Why she doesn't like him? I don't know. But she doesn't like him in that way.

Well, he did start the first voicemail out saying that her type seems to be guys that, you know, are kind of pieces of shit to some degree. She runs into pieces of shit. That is the mean of shit type. I know. People go through phases. I know I'm not trying to put anything bad. She has bad taste of men.

Or going through that phase. I'm not here to shit on her whatsoever. I'm just trying to tell Thomas that that girl does not like you like that. And she's keeping you at bay. And I don't know if that's even a good friend tactic. I'm not going to say she don't like him like that, though. I'm not going to say that. I'm going to say she don't want to cross that line.

Because they're best friends, he said, right? They've been best friends for years. I think she doesn't want to cross that line and make it physical. but I'm not going to say she doesn't She wouldn't have kissed him Yeah and they already talked about the marriage shit at 35 at that point Yeah that's what I'm saying So I think that she likes him

I just think that you know it's like damn This is my best friend It's like I don't think she doesn't like him Like we're saying that girl don't like you I don't believe that I think she does like him I don't think every friendship is the plot to brown sugar Like I just think that girl would They would be together if she wanted that

Yeah they live That's all he wants clearly which is fine Like I think that's great that he loves his best friend and wants to be with her. I think that's a great foundation to a relationship. But that girl would do that then. She definitely, after making out with him, felt like, nah, this isn't it? This ain't it.

This is not it. Let me try. It was probably awesome. Let me try it. I don't think it was a good guy. I love him, but it's like, I just ain't it. I can't. And that's, it didn't feel like how I thought it was going to fell, especially because

we're so close in friends. Get him in a room, man. No, that's what, yeah. We need a Zoom Zoom room for sure. Fuck that. Get her in the room so that we cleared us up. He don't know. The moment she finds out he said this on a podcast, that might ruin their friendship.

She don't see me. I don't know. Well, let's get a minute. Let's get more of the backstory. Let's get more information from Thomas. Let's have him in the Zoom Zoom room so we can kind of grill them a little bit and get more information on what's happening with these two best friends. See if he's going to prove if men and women can be best friends and only best friends. Well, he's not going to prove that because he already disproved.

He's in love with her. her. Yeah. Out the gate, he makes the rest of us look bad. Yeah, but they're not, they haven't been like physical. All right, they're friends where one person wants to be with the friend. Yeah. Like, they're not just like platonic friends. One is actively trying to be with the other one. That's not a friend.

I don't know, is he actively trying to be with her? I don't know if he's actively trying to be with her. Yeah, if she, I'm sure in the conversations he's being respectful because he seems like a nice guy, but if she would say, hey, yes, let's actually try this. He would say yes, right. Oh, immediately, yeah. It's not like he would be like, nah, let's actually wait to see if this works out or whatever. He would be like, yes, let's go into a footballer.

Okay, yeah, but I don't know. Let's talk to Thomas. I think Thomas is going to be like, Yo, Maul, you was right. I think she likes him. I think the distance living in different states. He don't know if she like him or not. He don't know that.

He know. They're talking every day. This is his best friend. You think he don't know if she like him? It's just, they probably just the distance. He already said like, yo, we're trying to figure it out. Like, I'm a tattoo artist. She's a teacher.

Like, she lives there. I live here. Like, so they're having these conversations. Like, she likes him. But again, it's, you know, she's probably hesitant because she's like. She could also be bored. She just moved to a new place. She could also just be bored.

Like moving to a new place, you're basically in jail. That's jail talk. You can have no. Not for a woman, though. For guys different. Woman, all y'all got to do is put that one dress heels on and go to that local ball and y'all know every nigger in town that's not real life that's one night that's not y'all know every nigga in town niggas we got to go out a few times to meet some women a couple

times though yeah we got to go out we got to hit the spots moore do you think if two people laid in hotel cuddled made out had known each other for a long time continued to talk and both wanted to be each other they wouldn't pull the trigger to spend more time together in person if both if both people wanted that i mean it's subjective what's the what's the circumstances They live in different states. Teachers and tattoo artists, you know, make money to be able to go see people. I think if that was really something that they wanted instead of being fucking pen pals, I know he pulled the trigger the next day to go see her.

Yeah. In her town and fucking be in the hotel or her crib or whatever. All right. She just not doing that. We're going to have them. We're going to talk to him soon. We're going to have them in the room. Bring up to the room.

Now we got to bring them to the studio for the live stream. Like we did with Matt We got it We don't know Let's talk to the gentleman First Matt we knew we saw He was cool

He was a little Layback We don't know what Thomas Matt will show up to the studio I'm sorry Thomas will show up to the studio Elevator doors open There was never a girl

Yeah yeah We gotta we gotta We gotta vet this thing Kill us all Yeah So yeah let's get him in the Zoomzum Room For sure

All right Well this was fun We have another episode That we're about to do now We don't know when it's gonna come out Though Let's see how it goes Interesting guest

Very interesting. This can be... Interesting guest for Baby D2 with her alliances. Ooh, I didn't even... I didn't even... You did the science and the math on that one. Listen, man. Okay.

All right, well, let's get to that. And we'll get that episode out to the people soon. Hopefully it'll be a fun, interesting conversation. Some answers. We'll find some answers. Oh, it'll be absolutely fucking crazy. Either way, y'all are going to get it. So we'll talk to y'all soon.

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