New Rory & MAL - Episode 416 | Sweet Tooth

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Tyler The Creator made his bed with the fan base he cultivated, but Mal thinks he may have been misunderstood. Rory and Mal investigate the real reason Brandy left the stage in Chicago. Baby D thinks the guys are cappin’ when they give props to Clarissa Shields for her freestyle. Rory and Mal are impressed with the robbers who pulled off the most recent heist in the Louvre. Plus, Mal can’t stop listening to the new Tame Impala project, and a caller wants to know if we got a problem with album variance. All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The volume. I got a sweet tooth. I got a taste for you. That was the start of my opinion right there. That's way better. That's way better than me saying, and we're back. I got a sweet tooth. I got a sweet tooth.

I'd pay. Not going to say the name, but I'd pay. That might be the first time I'd pay. I can't. I tried to before, man. I just couldn't. It's like my nervous system. My body is just like to align with like my chakras.

My chakras are not aligned to like. No, my Venus and Mercury would definitely align for, for a friend. My chakras was just like, this ain't you. It felt like my ancestors. It ain't you. I feel like my ancestors was like. like, yo, this ain't even. You're Steve right here. Imagine Maul. Attempting to buy pussy and look in the mirror and going,

Ma, this isn't you. You see? It just wasn't me. I tried. It was like an experiment. I wanted to have like, I said, let me just see if I'm actually capable of doing this. And physically, like my nervous system, everything was just like, yo, you bugging. Like, this ain't even, this ain't you. I don't know, man. I'm dead serious. I'm not even trying to be funny. Like, I tried to pay for sex before. I'd break my rule. I think I'd pay 5K for the sweet tooth. Nah, you tripping, bro.

Don't know, don't know vagina costs $5,000. For the weekend. You know, they got the, listen, they got the, they got the shattered backboard Mike sitting for retail right now. Those is classics. They sit, you can get them right now, Josh, for $120 to shattered backboards. $120, they just sitting, beach. You telling me, sex, vagina costs $5,000?

Mike's shoes don't even cost. Mike's shoes are sitting. Retail. I can't fuck Mike's shoes. But those are classics. Like, it's a class. What am I do? Look at it. She's not a classic. You know out of here. She might feel like one, though. 5K for sex is crazy. I'm not paying for another man's shoes like that is crazy.

Nah, 5K for sex as well. Just think about that for one second. I'd immediately regret it. Like, no matter who it was, I'd immediately read it. And the regret comes from you knowing that pia, your ancestors are looking at you like, really? Like, this is what you doing with your life? This is where your life has taken you? And like, maybe a little TMI. But her, I probably wouldn't last very long. So, like, that'd be kind of a waste. But 5K, I need to know, like, I got, you know, I got a night. So 5K for the night? Yeah. Like, when did it's like, you got to give me another round.

So it's like from the time y'all meet up, 24 hours after that? Yeah, I'd regret that 5K pretty quickly. Of course you would. You know you would. That's crazy. And I feel like you can't even say, yo, I'd be. If you paid for it, I don't think you could be like, yo, you know, I can't. Yeah, that's so many.

It's so many stipulations with that. It's just like, ugh, it's just disgusting. I don't know. Yeah. I'm just not with that. Amher you good? It's laying. It's laying.

Oh, jeez. You got that. You got that motherfucker. What you put in there that? Sofa 8? Yo. That's what you put in there? What's that?

That wet and wavy? No, it's just a fresh little fresh haircut. Fresh little newbie wrap, you know. Side, side part. Yeah. A little bang over the eye. Oh. You're looking like little Kim and Nine Seven right there.

Let me see. Yo. Oh. Hacks. Yeah, you know. Remember the bang over the eye look? That had a run. That had a run.

Oh, man. You were watching the girl that was coming to see you when you was young, you looked out the window and saw her walking up the block? Yeah. Oh, man. That was the best. Butterflies. You immediately become pussy. He smelled like, what was the body spray they used to wear?

Cucumber melon. Remember that? Remember the cucumber melon? I mashed with my cool water. You can smell her four days after she left your crib. Your whole house smelled like a... Well, around Rory's time, it was more love spell. Yeah, it was definitely Love Spell for my time.

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I think I dropped your album. Just quickly just dropped it real quick. Didn't say anything. So now I have to say, hey, Siri, go to my home screen anytime I want to go to an app. Like my home button. What did you drop it at? Just on the ground. But I literally feel like I've been living like a second class citizen.

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But I have to go to the Apple store. Maybe I can use Boost Mobile $25. And they can come and bring your iPhone 17. While we're recording, they will hook up your phone right here while we are recording. Over the weekend, I saw that Tyler, the creator, got a little bit of backlash. A little bit. He said, rest and peace, DiAngelo, and it all went downhill from there. Now, I saw some of his old tweets that they pulled up.

I was like, okay, you know, they got Tyler. They went back and started digging into his, you know, his old work. I didn't see the DeAngelo tweet, though. I mean, there was nothing really wrong with his, with his DeAngelo tribute. But just from there, people discovered that maybe Tyler Crater is a little anti-black. That's what they got from his tweets. Now, I did see him in, they found a picture of him in a KKK costume. Yep.

I didn't know if it was Halloween, but I don't know if that would have made much of a difference. I mean, I was mainly offended by the white face. I was hoping to be more outrage for that specific one. when he was in white faith. Well, let's read some of his tweets. Scroll up, Josh, to the first one. Tyler says on this date in 2014, February 7th, this is what he had on his mind. He said, I hate Black History Month.

Why the fuck do you have to fucking separate niggas still? Oh, it's paying homage to our heroes. Fuck that. Okay, I don't know. I feel them. Why do we have just one month where we have to, you know, and it's the shortest month. We've heard that before. You could find a loophole in that one, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I see that one, you can find a way to defend it. He's just mad at us having black history. They're trying to separate us like America is black history. The entire country is black history. Oh, that's what you got from that. Well, I'm just saying that's what he was trying to say. I mean, you know, it is what it is.

And then he goes on to say. He goes on to say. Well, this was January 2014. He says, don't trust those random black dudes with the fade and nappy, natural bummy, almost dredged shit at the top. They like everything. Okay. I don't, I don't connect that one.

I don't know what hairstyle he's talking about. Some black chicks work here. Affirmative nigger. I don't know what that. is either. Black people are currently mad right now, but in two weeks we'll be over it because they really don't care. Cool hashtag, though, right?

I always say all the time people don't care. Yeah, okay. These sound like a lot of malls tweets. Yeah, he in my back. Tyler was in my... He was taken from my book. I didn't know you guys had so much in comment. Yeah, Tyler was that was my book, Tyler. It's all good.

But no, there was some wild ones. The R. Kelly one was fucking insane. He said R. Kelly pissed on a kid and got away with it. That's the swagiest shit I've ever seen. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. That you can't tweet, Tyler. Oh, so none of them were crazy just the one on Arkelly?

No, no, I think all of them were crazy. Mall is speaking of, for mall. What was crazy about it? Talking about somebody with haircuts that like everything. That's crazy to say? Yeah. Certain haircuts, they like everything. Not my place to say, but.

I mean, it's not crazy. I mean, not saying you agree with it, but I don't think that that's crazy. I wouldn't look at that in 2014. Like, yo, he wilding? I mean here's like even with early odd future shit like

that would be like going through old Eminem albums and like pulling out lines like I'm not agreeing with anything that Tyler has said here but when he was doing the shock value thing

he like that was a brand at that time for him Eminem did the same thing mm-hmm shit Eminem said some of these things on record and we all just were like cool emma so emma's has some crazy shit on his albums yeah and i mean even had the leaked song where he was going black women the n-word and all that like and i'm not here to make it an m-and-m thing i'm just like

there's a lot of artists that said insane fucking things and we're we just move on like that's part of their brand i mean tyler uh matured in his his brand but when he was young kid yeah it was a shock value shit is what he was doing i'm not i don't know about young kid they was pulling up tweets from when he was like 25. Oh, well, then never mind. Like, I don't. So as a result of all of this, what are we doing? That's Tyler, like, was he canceled?

Oh, I mean, I doubt it. Yeah, he's not canceled. And because mainly because of his main fan base, don't give a fuck. His long, die, which is really what he's saying, but his diehard fan base, they don't give a fuck about that shit. They became a fan of him because he was doing all that wild shit. So, no, there's no cancellation of him. But I'm not mad at people.

saying, oh, hold on now, this is why you have a major fan base doesn't respect DeAngelo's death. This is your fan base and this is how you got them. People pointing that out. I don't think that that's crazy. So Tyler liked this tweet of somebody else. Tyler's fan base hates black music despite Tyler himself having a very deep and love of appreciation for it. Maul. Nigid.

Has Charlie Wilson, Erica Badu, DJ Drama, etc. as collaborators. And they still refuse to engage with black art on any meaningful level. very cannibalistic. I don't know if that's the case with it. Maybe I'm just wrong and out of touch. I don't think Tyler's whole fan base is like that now. I don't think so either. Like, I don't understand where people are drawing that from his fan base is like that.

Like, I mean, I'm not saying certain people in his fan base aren't that. But to say that Tyler's entire fan base is that is a stretch. No, it's not. Like, I've seen Tyler shows. It's a lot of like people that are into black culture, black art at his shows. There's a lot of young white kids, a lot of young Asian kids, there's a lot of different demographics that it shows as well. But to say that his entire fan base doesn't support

or is not into black culture, black music, that's a stretch. Yeah, I just don't think the person that went to the Igor show isn't also listening to other black music. I just can't see that. But I don't know, maybe I could be completely out of such in that regard. And of course, I'm not co-signing any of his tweets. Those were fucking nuts. but that fan-based shit

I don't get that Baby dear they call him deleting tweets Oh yeah he was Get up deleting tweets for sure But what I don't understand is why delete him now You ain't been no you have some crazy tweets sitting Like he's addressed that before though Like he's encouraged people

Like even at shows he said like Yo go bring up my old tweets I don't give a fuck you can't cancel But like he's encouraged that before Like and acknowledged that he said insane things That's why I was even shocked that he deleted the shit Or maybe he deleted shit because he reflect completely has a different perspective now and thinks that, damn, I shouldn't

have fucking said that. I don't believe that. A lot of that shit was social media, though, that I think people tend to forget is that 10 years ago, 12 years ago, 15 years ago, certain things you said online were not deemed what they are today. Like, you could say things 10 years ago or tweet things 10 to 15 years ago that in that time, in that moment, it wasn't offensive. It was like, you know, kind of everybody was kind of felt. like that or, you know, whatever. But then, you know, things change. Politically, things changed.

The world changes. People's feelings changes. Outlook changes. So to go back and dig those up is a little unfair because you got to understand where we were as people and as a world 10, 15 years ago. Certain things that people said was not deemed to be crazy. It was like, okay, a lot of people felt like that. Now, you go back and look at it because if that's the case, things I said 15 years ago just

and around friends and family, in the moment, wasn't un-defensive. If people were to hear things I said 15 years ago today, like, you just play back some audio. It's like, then, that was wild to say. But yeah, the world back then was a lot different than it is today. So it's going to sound a little crazier today, like, oh, shit. But, yes, the world has changed. So a lot of things now can be taken as offensive. They can be taken as, damn, that's fucked up.

But it's not fair because 10 years ago or 15 years ago, that was. the case. Ten years ago, every single one of them tweets you read sounded crazy 10 years ago. Nothing about that hairstyle tweets sounded crazy to you. Okay. Nothing about that. Saying there's a black girl that works here, affirmative nigger was crazy back then. Like all of these things were, they were anti-black even back then.

Like that's like, that's why it was shot. It was shock value even back then. Like he was known for shock value because there was shock because the shit was crazy in 2014. Yeah, like, Ma, I don't think all of those tweets was. crazy, though. I don't think all of them were. Like crazy? I mean, maybe you don't agree with it, but I don't think it was something like 10 years

ago, nobody was like, yo, he tripping. Because I didn't even know. We didn't know about these tweets. That's my first time ever seen these tweets or hearing about these tweets. Because you weren't his target audience 10 years ago. I'm not as target audience now and I'm hearing about the tweet. Okay, but Tyler is way larger now than he was before. Like, it's different.

He used to be large to a niche audience. he's just large, period. Yeah, what I'm saying is the tweet, what he's saying, today, they're digging it up today and they're offended by it today. 10 years ago, I don't think anybody was offended by any of that shit, he said. I just don't. We didn't hear nothing about this shit. Like, it's like, that's why digging it up is like, oh, shit, he said that 10 years ago.

Because in that time in 2014, nobody thought that that was anything crazy. Don't trust random black dudes with the fade. and natural bummy almost dred shit at the top they like everything what is crazy about that there's a pattern when you read out all of these tweets there's a pattern of disrespecting your own people why the fuck do you have to fucking separate niggas still oh it's paying homage to our heels fuck that that's that's that's a crazy tweet to you him saying like fuck black like why we only why y'all you keep like y'all basically pacifying us giving us this one month we all we all feel like that y'all giving us the shortest month of the year to try to celebrate black history you are putting your own

on his words. He didn't say that. You can't say what somebody said. He said what he said. He didn't say nothing about, oh, we deserve more months or oh, was Black History every month. He didn't say that. If that's what he meant, that's what he would have said. He said, I mean, he didn't say that in exactly verbatim what I'm saying, but that's what that is. It's like, oh, you paying homage. It's kind of like, oh, let me guess. This is supposed to be paying homage to black history. Like, okay. So I don't think anything was crazy about that tweet is all I'm saying. Okay. So, and I'm assuming you don't think anything is crazy about this one either. some black chicks work here affirmative i don't even i think i need more content what does he it sounds

like that was a rant i don't even know what that sounds like he went into somewhere and it was a black chick there and he's saying that the black chick got the job because of affirmative action no baby i think you're digging too deep oh my god i'm digging too deep into that very obvious tweet i'm pretty sure that's so black chicks work here what is i don't need we need more context is all i'm saying you can't just read that but you don't need more context for the black history month But the Black History Month is him talking about some black chicks work here. Where is here? What is he talking about?

Well, back in the day when we used to be on Twitter, because you used to be on Twitter, when you walked into a place, here meant wherever the fuck you were. Wherever the fuck you were. Yeah, but I mean, again, that's just, I need more context to that. That's not enough. Talking about Black History Month and it being like, oh, this is supposed to be paying homage, we know what that means. Like, that's like, that's a slap in the face.

That's like, oh, you're just trying to give us this month to celebrate black history like we've all said that at one point another like why do we have the shortest month of the year to celebrate all of our black history every black person that's felt like that i don't think that that tweet was crazy is all i'm saying now does he have some things he shouldn't be saying yeah i think we all have though that's not fair to just point it out when he does it we we've all tweeted shit and said things that can be taken as crazy as disrespectful none of us are above that we can and we have but when when when people can pull up multiple tweets when you are talking shit about your own race

and then pandering and making music for white skaters, there can be a connection. Like this isn't, niggas are not pulling shit out of thin air. Like, there can be a connection that you were pandering

to your fucking white audience because of the type of music that you were doing. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's not crazy. So when people point out, you was tweeting all this crazy shit

about black people that was anti-black to your white fucking audience, you can get a slap on the wrist for that shit. It's not like, I don't think that that's crazy for people to say to hell him accountable for it. He's not going to suffer. He's not going to lose any fucking

plays. He's still going to be tired of the creator. But niggas can point out on not. That was some whack shit she was doing. That was corny. And you was 24, 25 years old. Is this something negative about this tweet? And black people are currently mad right now, but in two weeks it'd be over because they really don't care. Cool hashtag though, right? My only thing is this. If you black and you got a white audience, why are you always commenting and critique black people? Where are your tweets about white Asian people? Why is everything black people that's black people that are affirmative niggins is fuck black history. Oh, I'm sure we can find some crazy tweets about white people in this

in his catalog. Okay. His tweetography, we could definitely find some tricks. I'm sure they're probably this. They just highlighting this right now. But if we dig, oh, yeah, it's in it. Absolutely. Tyler's always been a person.

He don't give a fuck what he say. Like, he's always been that. Again, he's always been shocked value. He says what he's thinking. He says what he feels. He doesn't give a fuck. Like, he's always been, as far as I'm concerned, been that type of person.

So I'm not surprised at that. They were saying there was one, one about him hating Leon Thomas 10 years ago. That's funny. That's so random. Ten years ago, damn. Leon Thomas was how old ten years ago? I mean, you know, he was on TV, but you've been around for a while.

Oh, so he hated him like his acting? I guess. He didn't hear any of his music 10 years ago, did he? Oh, he said, I hate the black dude from Victoria's. So, yeah, that's... That's Leon. Okay, but why? He has some wild Walee tweet.

I did not know his disdain for Walee either. There was like 10 Walee tweets. What was he saying? It's just how much he hates him. Like, there was really nothing. to it except for like I really fucking can't stand wallet. Like I hate him. I mean, listen, man, I get it, man.

But if we dig back into a lot of these people's tweets, we're going to find crazy shit. That's all. And I hear you that times were different at 10 years ago, 20 years ago, whatever, but some shit is just like inexcusable. No, the KKK costume to me, that was crazy. It was fucking insane. Yeah, like, hi, first of all, like, where did you get that?

Like, where are they selling that at? Like that's what my first thought was Yeah Where does one purchase that? I think that's a custom piece I think you gotta know a tailor or something Imagine going to the tailor Taylor to creator

Taylor the creator Taylor the creator Made it for But then like Because Amazon wasn't around back then Can you get a KKK costume From Amazon right now? Party City

Party City might have had something Holy shit. They're going to fucking space and making KKK costumes over at Amazon? Absolutely. It's all there. That's fucking nuts. Maybe we should make Josh Google that on Amazon. I don't want that my algorithms.

Josh don't want that either. Josh, Puerto Rico, though. If I do it, it's insane. Josh, what they used to call you? Speedy what? Super speedy. I forgot about that. I forgot about it.

Josh, who called you? Tyler. Super speedy stick. There was another crazy Tyler shit where he was telling people, I think, go vote for like an MTV award and just it was like every racial slur you can think of. I think he said wetbacks go vote or something like that. No, Tyler was wild. He was definitely wild. But then again, there's like school shooter songs on the odd future album.

So maybe I just wasn't like as shocked as everyone else was when I saw these tweets. Yeah. I think they're awful. And yes, he should be condemned for them. But it didn't shock me. He's been tweeting like this forever. I don't think anyone was shocked, though. I didn't see anybody be shocked.

But I do understand some of the backlash on Twitter, being less about what the tweets are, because we know Tyler's done the shock value thing, but more so how he has been complaining about his own fan base at shows. And they're like, dog, you cultivated this. Look at all the tweets that you had. Even though I don't think those tweets got him fans.

Like, I don't think people saw that. It was like, oh, yeah, I see the group that Tyler wants to start. But he does have a bunch of fucking white fans. Like, he built a white fan base, especially in the beginning. And, I mean, you got to deal with it. Like, yeah. Some of them are just not going to understand all the nerdy shit music side that you're into. When you say, when y'all say a lot of white fans,

is it possible in hip hop to be a star in hip hop and not have a bunch of white fans? No. Cool. But there also is like, you know what they mean by that type of like white fan the kids they hang out of 7-11 sure but yes of course just based off sheer population in america yes you need white fans if you want to be a superstar but there is also a specific type of white fan base like shit we even go down to the steve lacy shit TikTok brought him a specific type of white fan base that he unfortunately

had to deal with in that way. It's not like necessarily the music lover fan like that. Whereas Tyler has a lot of, he cultivated that shock value white kid fan base. And you got to deal with that now, even though you pivoted your music completely away from that shock value shit, you still got to deal with the fans that you started over here. Just because Igor is light gears above anything you were doing with odd future when you were 20 years old doesn't mean that all the fans that love that shit are now going to understand who you're sampling. When you're you're on like his last tour. Like he had a bunch

of records and he was literally playing vinyl records of the samples of the songs. A lot of them kids that just wanted to hear you scream fuck are not into that. And you just have to do with it. So again, I don't think anti-black, but they're just anti-music. Like, they're Shock Valley fans.

So I get the outrage of like, yeah, Tyler. I don't even know if it's anti-music. It's just not, it's just, they're just not, they weren't raised on soul. They don't recognize soul. They weren't raised on soul. Like there's a difference between a white Drake fan, a white Tyler fan, a white Cole fan, a white JZ fan. There's differences between all of those type of fans.

So yes, it's kind of impossible for you to become a mega star without white fans. But then there's also a difference between having white fans and having a majority white fan base and those white fan base be a specific type of white. Like, it's just different. It's a lot of white. Yeah. Which is fine. I have a white fan base, but just don't complain when they don't recognize the Erica Badu fucking, they don't appreciate the Erica Badu collaboration.

Like, they're like, that's the fan base you built. Yeah. Because I think, too, with like, all right, like the white fan that was a fan of the roots, Erica, DiAngelo, just the whole Soul Quarian, that whole tribe, common. Like, those white fans, because they had so many artists like them, like they had. like they had that community of all those artists, you would get the same white fan that would love the roots and be like, oh, who's Erica Badu?

And then go research it and then go to an Erica Badu show. I think the Tyler fan doesn't have that type of community or options. So they're just a Tyler fan. Like they don't need to do any research. There's no one to research. They don't have to do a deep dive. There's no one else around Tyler.

He's by himself. So yeah, you're just going to get a white fan that likes your fucking, your music and your music on. They're not like you. Whereas a white hip-hop fan that like the roots is probably has similar interests that Quest Love and Black Thought have. Whereas Tyler's fan base, I don't think they're like him at all. Well, they're like who he was when he first came out. He's evolved, but you're expecting just because you evolved your fans to evolve.

No, they're still on skateboards and hanging out in front of 7-11 and living off orange slushies. I mean, yeah, in the, I don't know, like, like when I found out about, Slum Village. Then I got to figure out about a little brother. Like, I just went down the rabbit hole of everything that was happening at that time. Whereas I don't think Tyler has that. Like, who are they going to discover? Jay Cole? Like, there's no one like him. So I think that's why he's upset that his fan base is not like him because those people don't care.

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we need to get Brandy some water. That's the main concern, I think, for this week. So I did see a video. Well, Brandy and Monica are on tour with Kelly Rowland. It's Cocoa Jones a part of that as well, right? We talked about it last week. So they went in Chicago.

Chicago for the tour. And Brandy walked off stage mid-set. And she walked to the sound board. So I was thinking that it was something to do her sound. Maybe she couldn't hear herself in the monitors or whatever, whatever. You know, when you're a vocalist like Brandy, you need to be able to hear the music. You need to be able to hear yourself. So I took it as that.

But apparently, this is a release from Brandi's statement. Yeah. She released a statement saying, to my dear fans of Chicago, thank you all. for the overwhelming love support and most poorly your prayers. I sincerely apologize for the abrupt end to last night's performance in Chicago. After weeks of non-star rehearsals, last night I experienced dehydration and feelings of wanting to faint. Everyone involved agreed that prioritized in my well-being was of the utmost importance. Well, I mean, I'm glad she's okay.

And yeah, that would have been worse if she just tried to power through and then ended up fainting. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, I know the tour's just starting, but people tend to forget how much they rehearsed before and how exor exhausted out the gate. Hopefully she is okay and she's, you know, she's hydrating and she's taking care of herself because, you know, you can't be on stage if you're not taking care of yourself. But the video that we saw for leaving the stage, she walked to the sound booth. Yeah.

And she even said, I believe she said, you know, she was trying to get her sound right. How do we go from that to this letter of I was dehydrated? Like which one is? Was it the sound? Is she going stage after that? No, she did not. When she tried to get the sound right? She did not come back.

So it literally was, that was the last time she was on stage for the night. Okay, so I'm confused now. Love Brandy, hope she's okay. But we can't get a video of you leaving stage and going to the sound booth saying, hold on, y'all, working on my sound or whatever, she alluded to something like that, to then getting a letter to her fans saying she was dehydrated. Well, you know, maybe she went over to the soundbook to catch herself and thought maybe I could get some water and go back out and just use that like, hey, technical difficulties

will be right back. Maybe that was her strategy and then realize now I'm really going to fucking pass out. So she used the sound as a... Yeah, maybe as a way... Yeah, technical difficulties give me a second, just so she could get a fucking breather. But... I've seen this movie before, Rory. Oh, Lord.

Happened in the same city in Chicago. It was the best of both worlds tour. All Kelly said. Tyler said. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just saying Arkelly said something

You know And then that was the end of it It was the tour was no more It turned into Jay Z and friends So I'm just saying Now if we see Mo and the girls Like

Moe and girls This go from Brandy and Monica The boys Montaour To Moe and the girls Listen man Mo got the boy Listen man We're gonna have to have another discussion

But no All jokes aside Do hope Brandi is okay And she takes care of Because obviously we all love And support Brandi And we want to see them Have a great tour

so do you think that there may be some internal back and forth um because like with the r kelly shit at least we like kind of knew what really happened and like the tension but this uh yeah is there i'm sure they're fine uh it was probably something with if it wasn't dehydration i would say that it was something with brandy's in ears or mics i don't think it was a monica thing but they didn't perform boy's mind on the boys mine on the boys boys mine tour, I will want my money back. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Was this the first show?

First show. I seen this movie before, man. Y'all think I'm crazy. I've seen this fucking movie before. I'm not saying you wrong. I've seen this movie before is all I'm saying, man. It might just be the Coco Jones tour at some point. It's going to be Kelly and Coco.

The Brown Beauty's tour, man. Kelly looked incredible. Kelly always looks incredible. Well, I mean, shit, I know Demaris wanted to go, but is it worth us? It was not the first day. I'm sorry, it was the third. The first date was, and this is another thing. Their schedule, Josh, if you want to pull up their schedule, their schedule, their schedule is insane.

Like, performing the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th of like just straight is crazy. For singers, then the 24th, 25th, 26th, like, it's like, there's like 50 fucking dates on this tour. And they're back to back to back. So this was the third show, Chicago. Oh, you're going to need a lot of water then. Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking crazy.

That's insane. It's insane. And it goes until December 14th. Well, y'all is a singing group. Won't y'all sing? I was going to say, let's buy tickets, but I don't know. I'm a little nervous. New York is sold the fuck out.

So is more. Of course it is. That's Brandy and Monica. Yeah. I'm probably going to buy a ticket to the Atlanta show in December, the second Atlanta show. Yeah, we go down to AC. No, we go to Detroit, Little Caesar's Arena.

You know that shit ain't sold out yet. First of all, Detroit shows up for music. Yeah. They're some of the best fans. Period. Now, Greensboro and North Carolina, I don't know. That's fucked up. There's a lot of colleges over there.

Oh, okay. College kids ain't got no money, man. Not for no concert. Do you think college kids are into Brandy and Monica? No. No. They might go off of Coco Jones, though. Well, Coco's only on, I want to say four of the, yeah.

I think she's only on three or four of the shows. only three shows three or three or four yeah she's doing the ones that Kelly is not okay yeah the ones that Kelly does not appear Coco Jones is doing but it's made so it's mainly Kelly Rowland and Money Long and Jamal Roberts

did we get a Kelly set list like how many they did it they did a Kelly setless like a real Kelly setlist like maybe like four I think Destiny's four or five Destiny's Child quick little melons yeah yep there we go quick little medleys

and then I think some like you know songs of hers probably like a 10 sing song I was gonna say I would want I would want the Kelly Destiny child Yeah she's like there's no way you're not getting me Got it Who got the biggest dress room on one tour?

Let's be petty Fuck it let's not Let's be Patty It's Patty Mondays Brandy Just because she's been like A child star And she was like fucking Cinderella

I think she's More of a demanding I don't want to use the word diva But she's just been in this business a long time. So I think she gets the bigger... Monica been in it just as long as Brandy. Since a child child? Of course their time

they've been in the industry that long, but she, her whole life. All she knows is green rooms. Monica. Well, how old was Monica singing with them big ass white sandals on? 14, I want to say? Really? Never meant to cause you. Yeah. Monica's 14 then? Oh wow. Then, damn, I stand corrected. But either way,

I just think, because Brandi, Cinderella, she gets the bigger one. So was those sandals. Sandals was a She was 14 when don't take a personal game? Yes. Holy shit. She was like a grown woman on that record. Them sandals was the size 14.

She had on too. Don't do that. Don't do that. Listen, I voted for it on the countdown. I used to call in it. I used to call in so they could play that video. I loved Monica growing up.

Hell you. I had a crazy crush on Monica. But yeah, I'm going Brandy. Confidently I'm going with Brandy with the bigger green room. Or sometimes it's about who gets there first. I mean, you're with. Houston's goddard, I think you get the bigger bigger dress room.

I think Monica gives it to her just to avoid any type of give it to her. Or Brandy gives it to Monica to prove that she's not a diva. Like, no, I'm cool, guys. Fair, take it. I will say, though, at any arena I've been to backstage, they have multiple green rooms that are all the same time.

I was well, say, we just told this shit. They're the fucking locker rooms for the teams. You know how big those fucking hot. People have been pitting them again. each other for years. No, I do like the fact that because of that, people been, you know, kind of had them, like, you know, created this whole energy. Like, they don't really like each other over the years because similar age, similar style

and music, you know, two of the young girls coming up that had great voices. So they kind of were always, like, pitted against each other. But I do love the fact that they did put this tour on and to show people kind of like, yo, that's my girl. I fuck with her. Like, it ain't none of that negative energy. We both love each other. No more of that.

But ever since they did their version. versus like, you know, it's like, oh, okay, y'all are over like the slap. Yeah. The backstage slap that they had when they were younger. But I do hope that the tour last and they are both able to finish it out because I do want to catch them at some point. Yeah, I want to see that. I'm flying out to wherever. I got to go to see that.

Yeah, sure. Who is going to critique Clarissa Shields freestyle because I'm not going to. You? Let's see. I'm not just saying this because she could beat my ass. I actually thought she kind of ate on that freestyle. I was a little shocked. What was the last?

line. We said she can put two, two legs in someone's ass. I thought it was kind of. I seen her do it. I would have been in the back adlet, but I seen her do it. I know, she lives. She's living in her rhymes for sure. She definitely kicking ass. So, I mean, it is what it is. I don't. She don't sound. Baby D. Let's just keep it real. Keep it real Monday. She don't sound too far from the rest of these girls. I hear right. Yeah.

Shut up, ma'all. She don't. All right. Who she sounds? She said. That could have been Glorilla. No. No, we're a pandering podcast today. I ain't know. Y'all should. You should have told me. How are we bantering? No, y'all should have told me. I ain't know what I was what you were on.

All right, well, get your shit off. What she sounded like? I want to get my shit off anything. What she sound like? Listen, everybody has released a little freestyle. Y'all seen mine. It's all online. We've all wanted to rap at some point.

Oh, she can't pay her homework. Yo. It's just jealousy. She even got the hairstyle. Y'all are fucking delusional. She got the same hands style. Oh, it's throwback Mondays. I see it.

You're going back to your whole style. It's like the Rita or Rihanna thing or whatever the fuck that was. Yeah. And now we're getting into like the trauma of it. Okay, baby. The trauma. So you kind of tight. Because Clarissa has definitely caused head trauma to somebody for sure.

Clarissa trying to rap and you know she ain't really a rapper. This is what you do, baby. Do you rap? You're seeing a boxer trying to jump into your world and your demographic. And you're like, yo, she ain't really like, stop trying to pay into the rap crowd. Just stay in the boxing ring. Don't try to pick up the mic. I see what it is, baby.

Do I respect that? I understand. I'm sure. Clarissa just made a cute little freestyle and would not like it to be critiqued like she's a real rapper. So I'm not going to do that. She made a cute little freestyle. What I will say is Clarissa. That shade.

You fight with. That shade. A cute little. And like what if she thinks she's a real rapper? She doesn't think that. She just rap. That's real. That's real.

You didn't see the video? Not an AI video. She made a cute little freestyle and it was cute. And that's, people should be able to do that without being just because they're famous being critiqued like they're real rappers. Next time, Clarissa just delivered. You thought I was critiquing her like she was a real rap. No.

I'm just talking about it. I'm not a real boxer. But if I walk outside in my ass whip, You're going to critique it. Yeah. If I come up here with a black guy, you're going to say, you should have Zig instead of Zach. Yeah. You're going to be a Monday morning court.

Like, yo. Yeah. I know you're not a real boxer. So we can do the same thing with Clarissa. It's all good. No. We support Clarissa. She know that.

But yeah, she don't sound far off from. Okay. Did she? Cool. No, I don't think so at all. I think if a female rapper that we knew of said those exact same bars, we would be like, yeah, that was cool. I think delivery is everything. So just put a little bit more unfinty.

Like, be more confidential. Like, be more. confident in your delivery. Like, say a louder. Like, your hype man was louder than you. Like, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta rap that shit like you believe. You know.

The delivery was a little timid. Yeah, a little timid. And you too, you're too real, you know what I'm saying? She just wrote that. She ain't really, you know what I'm saying? She had to live with her little longer. She had a feeling with her bars a little. She had the text that one to Pap just to, you know.

Yeah, Pat proof. You think Pat wrote it or you think you wrote it? No, no, those ain't Pat bars. Yeah. We know Pat bars when we hit Pat bars. It would have been way more complex than that. It would have been so late, so many entendres, if that was Pat, you're tripping.

Y'all don't know Pat balls when you're out here? You don't realize what Pap said in the first ball until you get to the end of the first. Like, oh, that's what he was. You think she would have done the bees, boxing baddies? Baddies boxing. Boxing baddies and box braids. Yo, yo, don't piss me.

Boxing braddies and box braids. Don't miss you. What if we're doing the bees is hilarious. Yo. Oh shit. Shout out to Glista and Pat Pooks. I mean, shit, I think Demeris is a little, she was a little scared once she showed us the Red Bottom.

Because in Demaris' freestyle, she just showed us like the Harry Potter hood. My baby Kurtz, that was the craziest shit I see that a long time. Yeah, she's like, y'all know what it is. She's really living them balls. I really got Red Bottoms on right now when I'm rapping this. Oh, who's tying it together better than Clarissa? These chicks ain't fucking Clarissa. And I did one of y'all rap chicks to say something to her.

That's what I'm on today. I want to see that. Enough of the niggas fight. You're real like, you know, you want anybody to fight. Enough for the men fighting. Enough for that. Let me see some of you, y'all ladies. Let me see y'all square.

Let me see y'all bump into each other at the awards. I mean, we do. Y'all want to rap, right? That's part of rap. When I see you at the awards, it's lit. I'm popping on you. I did want to you all of poker shows. The bitches be popping.

When the last time when these rap niggas popped at an award show? Well, we just had four funerals last. Refresh the timeline. Yeah, that pop with niggas is different. Well, it's usually like, killers that happen to rap. Yeah. That happens all the time. But like just a rapper.

Nah, it's really only the women that Bobboh. Clarissa got a fight coming up, don't she? I would have to check her in that. I feel like she got a fight coming up. You know what I've never seen? Oh no, it's Alicia. Alicia Baumgone. She got a fight coming up with a Hunt Tank fight the same night.

We've seen rappers walk out with boxers performing. Maybe she could freestyle like from the dressing room to the ring for her entrance. That's hard. In red bottoms. That's hard. And then fighting them. Yeah. Fighting them.

Anything you say about Clarice. I don't know. Neither am I. I'm all the way in a cleric. Yeah, you don't want to. I'm a wub and ass. She whooping ass. Don't do that because Cardi and Nikki popped off at Anna Winter's fucking block party.

What's the shit called? Anna Winter's block party is the words I've never heard strung together before. What's that shit called? What was it? The Vogue after party probably. Yeah. But what's the event? Or the Met.

Probably the Met Galler. Yeah, the Met. It wasn't the Met. It wasn't the Met. It was like a Vogue after party. It was a party. It was the actual Meg. I thought they popped off at the Metalla.

No, no, no, no. Oh, damn, I gave them way more respect. No. Yo, catching a heel at the Met is fucking nuts. I'm so jealous of the people that robbed the Louvre. Did you see the Louv heist? No. Yeah, those fire they got.

I love heist movies. It's one of my favorite genres. Like, it's so cool to know that, like, it's real. Like, there's real heisters out. Like, the way you said that, like, there's actual ninjas outside. Like, they exist. People that, like, do heists exist. That's not just a nice.

the movies. Pull up the jewels they sold. It was, um, I was with Napoleon or some shit. Somebody from a very, very long time ago. All his jewels was taking, all the sapphires. How do you even like sell that shit though? If you think somebody is selling that, you got. So what's the point of robin it? Collectors. Like the

Jordan sneakers, just look at them? No, no, no. Collectors, collectors buy it. They're not selling it to like a random person. There's a person that wants that can collect that, that can own that, that has enough money for that. Or they might sell them to another. museum like somewhere. Man, who they said stole this? It was just three guys

in construction outfits. It was like some real Ocean's 11 shit. Oh, this is Lupin. You know Lupin on Netflix? He's behind this shit. You never watched Lupin? No, I never watched it. Nah, that's the shit.

And all he wears Jordan once. He's stealing everything and all he wears Jordan. This is the coldest nigga ever. Look what it gets you to watch something. You're so easy. The Jordan ones stealing from the Louvre? Hell yeah.

I'm watching that. Nah. Danny Ocean did everything in a tuxedo. Nah, Lupin is better than Danny Ocean, bro. What? Lupin? I have to watch it,

but there's no way out of the three oceans that anybody's fucking with Danny. Nah, I'm going looping. Lupin in the J-1s. Lupin and the Jordan ones? He's taking all of that shit. Whose jewelry,

whose crown is that? I'll have it tonight. That's how Lupin get out. He'd go to the museums, check it out. He come back. Lupin is ill because his disguises don't even be drastic.

You know that's looping. He just got to, a fucking a hat on. His disguise be a different hat. It's like, nigga, that's the same nigga that was here two hours ago. And it's always like crisp ones, like he, or he recycles some pairs. Because you're definitely scuffing

your ones when you're heisting. No, no, no, Lupin don't do that. He don't repeat his pairs, me. Every heist deserves his own pair. Wait, so to catch Lupin, they would just have to go to Foot Locker and look at sales history. Exactly. They got a guy who owns, who in the city owns and his heart? Who bought this many ones?

Everybody got those Jordan ones. That's funny. Yeah, I'm going with Lupin over Danny Ocean. But I mean with this, so they took, um, like one of those, uh, electric ladder things that construction workers do, broke in and they had those little saws and sawed into like the display cases. It took like seven minutes, broad daylight while the Louvre was open. Like all the tourists in there and shit. So people were screaming, running. Yeah. Like, and they got out of there. I think, I think they dropped a crown somewhere in the city. But dude, this is crazy. Like, I like it. I like it too. I ain't.

a lie. I like this type of shit. No, I, like, how do you get in that business? Like, I don't, I don't want them to get caught, but if they do, like, I need a Vlad interview. I need to know how you, how do you become a heister? Yeah. Like, to get to this level of robbing the loof. Like, I really think that's only in, like, movies and shit. Well, I think you work your way up. Like, you start off as, like, a petty thief, and then you move up, you start robbing celebrities, and then, like, you just move up and up and you get, you know, be practiced. Like, to practice in the heist is crazy.

And then give a nigga it back, like, I was just practicing, fam. I wasn't going to really take your shit. Like, rob anybody and they'd give it back. Wait, I was just making sure I still had it. Yeah. I mean, it could just be a little insurance scam. The Louvre could be behind it. If they don't catch it.

Doing it in broad daylight is crazy. Yeah, if they don't catch these people, then it's like, all-a-fam. Like, what's really going on? Because there's no way you're not catch. This was in Paris, right? Yeah. There's a camera on everything. Not many cameras that are in Paris?

Like, on the streets? Like, they're definitely going to catch whoever this is. They tried to light the ladder. on fire after but they failed. Like they were trying to burn the evidence and shit and it didn't work. But can you pull up a picture of the lot? Like I'm, this isn't like a ladder from Home Depot. Like I don't know how

they thought they were going to fucking burn this thing without it blowing up. I think that might have been their point. Like as a distraction, cause a distraction, commotion. They would have taken out the whole side of the Louvre. Like this is some real, uh... Yeah, this is definitely an inside job. Yeah,

like just doing that is... Yeah, it's an inside job. Broad daylight. This is inside. job job. Like, there's no way. Speaking of like inside man. Like, it's so cool to know those people exist. Yeah. Like, they're really out there.

Like, I maybe sat next to a heister and I had no idea. Definitely. That's cool. In New York City? For sure. I mean, do people still rob banks? Can you do that? Yeah.

When the last time a bank was robbed in New York City? In New York City? Well, these niggas is busting checks every day. You call it, if you, for like, deposit in a fake check, do you consider that? No. So you're talking about, get the fuck down, give me the money in the safe? You're talking about that type of robbery? Yeah, just period.

No, that's movie shit. in New York. The most recent confirmed bank robbery was August 5th, 2025. He escaped with $350. Oh, that ain't shit. I need a hype.

Man entered the bank around 1115 and passed a note to the teller who gave him on proxy $350. That ain't no fucking robbery, man. The teller pulled that out his pocket. That was his own part. That was his own money. That wasn't no.

I'm talking, nah, man. I'm talking about really bank heist. Oh, they stole. They robbed a brink struck in Queens, June 2nd, 2025, stole more than $5,000. All right, but if you get into a brink truck, there's got to be more than five-brainer there.

Yeah, these niggas ain't dead. That's not, I'm talking about this right here. The biggest robbery in NYC history is likely the 1972 Pierre Hotel Heist with thieves stole about three million in jewels and cash from Safe to Pot. That's a robbery.

Three million in jewels and cash from Safe Deposit box valued at approximately $27 million today. See, all you got to do is rob these places, Rory, and hold the shit. Yeah. Hold it for a couple years. Hold it for 50 years and then cash out. They still didn't get anyone for the Latanza heist.

Was that the biggest heist in New York? Well, that probably was. Yeah. Okay. Well, that had to been the second biggest one then. Because that shit was crazy. My one was working at the airport when that happened. Yeah, all heists now is, like, digital.

Yeah. Niggas ain't running up in the bank on. Crypto scams. Yeah. It's like selling pussy on the block. They ain't doing that no more. Nah, they're still doing that. If a woman is still walking the streets.

That's hilarious. Especially down south. Yeah, they still, they still. Down south. I saw somebody selling pussy down south. They still do it, especially over by, like, in them back areas where they have like motels and shit. Like, it's a red roof in across from a Super 8, them in little areas, yeah, you can still

see a street walker, for show. I just don't, that got to be for the love of the sport then. For sure. No. Because you don't have to, like, it's so many ways to get. get money like just like sitting in the crib like not having to walk the street. Well, the same way that your like your mom and your grandma might have, have issues like using the phone sometimes.

They call and you saying it won't turn on. Like you just like grandma, like son do not disturb like shit like that. There are people who are older still selling pussy and there are older men who don't know how to buy pussy. Hold on. I lie. What older lady is selling pussy? If you think there are 40, 40 year old women still selling pussy, you're crazy.

Yeah, well, 40 ain't that old to be like, 40. they're not to use the internet selling it to a 55 year old man he's not doing shit on his phone he wants hand the cash hand the cash exchange especially down south down at all right

these holes trapping out of motel it's still brick and water I know they still because they were on in um and figaroa and cally they still walk in the blade yeah they still walking the blade

I love like my favorite thing to watch is the YouTube channel with it they got the man with the drone following them fucking with them oh yeah there's a YouTube page that follows streetwalkers Yeah, like somebody has a drone. He just flies on. Like he just follows them. They'd be throwing like juice at this shit. Yeah. I've never seen this. Yeah, man. I'd be in the deep, the deep dark corners of YouTube. No, I need to get, I need, give me your algorithms. Go, give me your algorithms. That's what's the algorithm. Like, they be trying to hide their face and shit. Like, man, you're butt naked. Now you're trying to hide their face and not your ass. It's crazy. Your whole, your titty is out. Like, you're on the black with your titty's out. Where he's standing with like the controller? He probably like in a car somewhere. But yeah, he's. He just had the drone following them.

Crackheads drone. What, that's all part of it. You selling pussy. Crackheads got drone now? No, crackheads are they following the crackheads. Oh, that's fucked up. If you selling pussy on the street, you consider the crackhead at this one. Don't give the police any idea.

Remember when the cops started getting like mountain bikes and shit? They'll be drones in the project soon. Yeah. For sure. Absolutely. Before we get off the heist thing, you don't think it's weird that we never found out who kidnapped Kim Kardashian in Paris? Like that was kind of nuts.

Well, they didn't technically kidnap her, but yeah, I know what you mean. What was the exact backstory? They followed her in and they tied her up and stole her jewels. But they were like professionals. Yeah, they were professional. They were professionals. Yeah, they robbed her at gunpoint. Getting away with that.

It's $4 million diamond ring. Yeah, that's. And then we kind of just never heard about it. Well, I mean, they were looking for them, but I don't think they ever found them. You imagine having... No, they did. It was a high profile trial where eight people were found guilty

in May 2025. Oh, so they just found him guilty May 2025. Jesus. Because that happened a while ago. Long time ago. I didn't even know that they found the guys. All right, I need to know these guys.

Are they on Vlad tomorrow? The thieves were dubbed the grandpa robbers in the media due to their advanced age. No, he's old as fuck. He has to be helped down the court steps and he robbed Kim Kardashian? That's fucking Whitey Bolger right there. That shit is crazy.

You know, that's for the love of the game. Like, if you're that old, you're doing like thrill bucketless shit. Yeah, those are old school robbers right there. Because I, damn, I got to know like his back history then. Who else did he rob? If you that old robbing Kim Kardashian, you have to be behind some of the biggest robberies. You think he knew who Kim was? Because it was Paris Fashion Week.

Everybody's there. From what I remember, this was a very well-planned robbery. Yeah, I think they had been following Kim for probably. quite some time or had somebody on the inside that knew Kim was going to be at the hotel that day. This happened in her hotel room. Yeah. This ain't happened like on the street. This was like, yeah. How did they get past the front desk? How did they, you know what I'm saying? There had to be somebody on inside. It was an inside job for sure. Somebody. Yeah, somebody at the hotel knew exactly what was going with room she was in, waiting the hallway, waiting the staircase.

She's on her way up, jump out of the staircase. Like there, it had to be a lot of moving parts to pull out in a whole Paris hotel. Any, any Paris hotel that can, any Paris hotel that Kim will be staying in is the best hotel in the city, security, cameras, like, this ain't no rinky dink just like, yo, where they ain't have no rooms available Paris Ratchery, I had to just find something, no. Kim went on hotel tonight. Yeah, this is Kim's garage. I remember they were saying, it's so funny how people think like celebrities are like fucking

political figures. They're like, oh, this was a ploy. Like, she set this up. She set her, like, this isn't real. This isn't, this is an insurance scam. I'm like, y'all, celebrities are not, yo, people, celebrities. Celebrities are not untouchable. They're people.

Kim went to the badgers to pull off an insurance scam. People can rob them. Like, she got robbed. Bad things happen to rich people. I know y'all don't like to believe that, but bad things happen to rich people. I mean, what do you, shit, I'm going to read more into this. I got to know what they did with the ring. Like, who do we think is going to buy the Louvre jewelry?

That is real blue, then y'allu got to have that sapphire. That is, that is definitely. What do you think of Saudi Prince, Mike? That is definitely like some wealthy collector that is going to be person. just in that for sure but you can't like are you gonna keep it in like us you can't let nobody know you got you can't let anyone know you have it can't let nobody know you own it but you know i was reading that they were they could maybe melt everything down and sell it but then i was like what if that was stolen and they just stole it back probably that's from the napoleon's estate one in there yeah like

somebody listen man we need that bag man yeah i mean listen man oj what size is them that's why he went to jail He went to go steal his own jerseys back. Like, nah, give me my shit. I need that. But that is kind of crazy, though. Like, Napoleon, that's like some of the oldest jewelry ever. Mm-hmm. And how they don't, they didn't play.

They don't catch them. The fact they don't got air tags on this shit these days is hilarious to me. Like, how the fuck they don't got Bluetooth on that crown? Hell no. They never thought nobody was stealing. That takes a lot of balls going to Lou and just broad daylight and steal some shit, though. Yeah, that's. That's like, all right, we don't give a fuck.

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I've been kind of like just glancing over albums. I'm sorry, but that Tame Impala album came out. I'm stuck. I can't stop. I can't turn it off. I fuck with Tame and Pala. I didn't even know they put out of a new album. Am I that out of fucking touch right now?

If y'all not listening to this Tame Impala album, this is one of the best albums you're going to listen to in the past however many years, without a doubt. Okay. Is it better than the slow rush? Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

But this is, the music on this. this album, incredible. Incredible. Deadbeat, the new Tame and Polly album. I don't know. Again, I'm listening to some of Davies, Carma Ford dropped, like a couple joints on there. Listen to some of the tie, but I just can't really get into those. I'm stuck on this Tame and Polly album. Like, I'm really stuck. Like, I can't turn this shit off. I text like five people yesterday. They was just laughing. Like, yo, it's like I said, bro, I can't turn this shit off. I was hearing the same thing about Olivia Dean's album. I think that's what her name is.

That was really good. What do you think, like, Maul does when he listens to Tame Impala? That's what I'm interested in. It's music for anything on there. You can work out to this shit. You can clean to this shit. You can go for a walk with this plan. You can go for a driver.

It's just that type of music. It's a little bit of EDIM on there, like, toward the end of the aisle. We know that gets that energy. But it's not, it's not, it's not like non-palatable. I like the slow rush tear. I don't know if I want E-DM, Tame, but I'm going to listen to it because I fuck to him. They're incredible.

You are going to love this album. Like, you, no shoes and socks on. As the Tyler Creator fan that we've been talking. Yes. Of course I would love this. Yes. This album, this Taiman Polly album, incredible. They're performing at Barclays two nights in a row.

When? Next Monday and Tuesday. I'm in there. Are you going? I'm in there. Well, I think Monday is sold out, but Tuesday, October, I mean, Tuesday, October 28th. I can only do Monday down.

We got to know somebody from Team. I asked you, if y'all knew someone from Brady and Monica, because y'all laugh me out the room, but tame, y'all got to connect. Nobody laughed. We were just quiet because it kind of sucks that we don't know anyone that knows Monica or brandy. And we've been asking to be connected with Ray J for the past fucking, I don't know, six months. I got to, I got to see this Tame Impala show live.

I have to. This album is incredible. I'm sure we can find somebody at Barclays or some agent we can figure out with We'll just show up, man. We'll just show up. I don't think that's how it like works at the Barclays Center. We'll just show up. Yeah, we'll just show up.

Pige, get the lamnets going. You know how we do. Get us right in there. All right, shit. Let's start Googling what the Tama A-A passes look like. Yeah, bro. This album, y'all going to fuck with it. That definitely going to fuck with it.

Like, I'm trying to, like, turn it off and get into other albums that came out. The music on this Tamey Pile album is so incredible. It's like you don't want to listen to nothing else. That's what it is. When music is as good as this, it's hard to listen to other projects because just the level of the music is totally different. But, you know, shout out to anybody else to that drop. I did hear a couple of joints, like I said, on Karma 4 that I liked, though, for Dave.

So shout out to Davey's dropping Karma 4. DJ premiere and Ransom, Amazing Grace's. Put out their first single because they're putting out a full tape together, which I can't wait for. But yeah, the first record is fire. Shout out to Ransom. Still waiting on our guys, Alchemist, and hit boy.

I mean, they put out the trailer for the movie. Yeah. So, yeah, I can't wait for that to actual. Shout out to Al. Also, I didn't like how y'all skipped over last episode when I said, if y'all heard ice spice baddie baddy like y'all just skipped over and we just kind of like ended

the conversation like i didn't hear it yet it's everywhere you can't miss it is this the one where they said she has six million views in like 10 minutes yeah it's also the one where she says baddy batty and she's showing her panty she didn't mean to go pop ice spice those is good man all right baby d you're good do i need some

flowers here or are we just going to continue You said she was on the clock. You said she was on the clock and I actually think she's having a resurgence. I don't think she's on the clock at all. I did say when she posted that photo of her ass in front of the Eiffel Tower, I said, clock back on? Maybe I had this wrong with. Now that I know the music is coming out, I'm putting the clock.

I'm hitting the clock on the chess board. I think that ICE is going to go the young Miami route. She's going to have to show a little bit more personality, but I think she's going to become more of an influencer than, Oh, I thought you were about to say Day Puff when he got out. No, just more of a more of an influencer than I think the music will be background.

Kind of like Ruby Rose, but Ruby Rose is more like O-F girl, but I think it's going to lean heavier into like fashion, brand deals. Like, I don't, the music, female rap is not selling like that anymore. However, shout out to Cardi because she is holding steady at number four on the Billboard charts. Don't say holding steady to me.

Hey, yo, nah, we got voicemails, though. I'm not doing this with the marriage today. I'm not holding steady. Don't tell me to hold steady. She's holding steady She's holding steady. What is this the fucking Titanic? No.

Hold steady. If you guys pay attention If you guys pay attention to music, especially black music and black hip hop And how it's performed Black hip hop

Yeah, get the jokes up No, it's more important The jokes I'm more Hold steady. I'm happy that Cardi is still doing A great second and third week Number of-first of all, it's not a cardi thing I know this is not just me being a Cardi fan

Hip-hop has not been performing that well when it comes to albums on the billboard charts. So a hip-hop album staying within the top five continuously is, that's a big thing. No, I agree with you. We're just making some jokes, too. No, it's fine. No, get it off. So in Ice Spice's influencer career, comparing her to young Miami and what I brought up with sexy red, both of those people have personality. Yeah, that's, yeah.

Like, I could see Ice Spice being in, like, campaigns and being like a model. So the Soidi row instead of the young Miami row. Don't make the joke. I know it's there. Just keep it in your throat. But why you feel like Ice Ice Vice don't have personality? Keep it in your throat. You just told his grown man to do what?

Keeping in his throat? Keep the joke in his throat because I know he was about to come out of his mouth. Keep it in your throat. Yo. I was just going to inquire what do you mean by that. You know exactly what I mean. What would the sweetie route be for what you're saying I especially do? The sweetie route was heavy brand deals, heavy crew.

heavy creative cool i just wanted you to be clear brand deals got okay but did she have a a duncan donut brandil already yeah but there but there was a point there was a hell yeah where so we had a big deal like McDonald's once a month like it was like it was insane also sweetie's music was really relevant at that time and ice spice music was really relevant when she got the dunkin donut shit so it's gonna take a few more uh kansas city chief games but you know but why do you feel like ice spice doesn't have personality I don't know her.

To the degree that young Miami and sexy red do, I don't think so. Ice spice is a cool bronch chick. Sometimes that's not like she's more reserved and like quiet. We don't know how she is with her friends, right? But when it comes to her outward personality of what she shows us,

young Miami from the very beginning has been like a personality. She was so big of a personality that she put her best friend on Santana who is also now a big personality. It's just a natural thing. Sexy Red is a big personality. It's a natural thing.

Not everybody shows that to the public. Ice Spice might have it, but that's not her public persona. Yeah, I mean. Like nobody's running to an Ice Spite. I won't say nobody. But not as many people will run to an Ice Spice podcast. Like with Carisha, it was obvious that Carisha needs a podcast because of her personality. Are you see what I'm saying?

Yeah. Because I mean, only, like only young Miami can win back-to-back BT podcast. Let it go. Festival. Sponsored by Revolt. Can we listen to the, can we watch the new video, so I can hear the song and then we can come back in on this? Yeah, sure.

She looks great, man. Ice spice looks great. Yeah. She looks great. Like the record. So it's a nice little bop. She ain't even mean to go pop. That's what I thought.

She was just popping her shit. Yeah. I'm saying? Like, yeah. Seen the DoorDash, brand at the end. You've seen that baby D? Mm-hmm. With the tea in the bag.

Need that. Yeah. So I went over my head. See, y'all don't even get the entendres with ice. That's the problem. What if Ice Spice was your Door Dash delivery, girl? Why, you just open the door and it's Spice just chilling right there. It's ice us right there.

I would ask her like, yo, how long you've been doing this? You shouldn't be doing this? You shouldn't be doing this. You don't need to do this. Like yourself. You don't need to be doing it like a stripper? Yeah, you shouldn't be doing this ice. That would be a good marketing thing to have Ice Spice just get on those little scooters.

A couple door dashed movies? Yeah, that'd be cool. You're having a little bike? That's a cool little rollout. open up to your door playing the record. And just getting everyone's reaction like when you open the door. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail.

Sponsored by Boost Mobile. Right? Got you. Ask him right on that. What's up, pod? Hope y'all are doing well. I'm actually calling with more of a music industry question for you all. Okay.

So as all of us have probably known by now, Taylor Swift has released her new album recently. Yes. And whenever Taylor releases a new album, all of a sudden, the discourse of album variants comes into play. Even though most major artists release multiple different variants of their albums, and it's crickets on the timeline. But then once Taylor does it, now there's this whole discourse about how she's greedy and she hates her fans, blah, blah, blah. And I did see on Twitter that Russ was kind of defending her. And he made a really good point to me where he said, you know, if he decided, to release merch or say New Rory Mall releases merch and they have a hoodie but they have that

hoodie in seven different colors is that now all of a sudden greedy or is it just giving fans you know variety and giving fans what they want no one's forcing them to buy seven hoodies um no one's forcing anybody to buy 10 different variants from taylor swift um so what are your guys's opinions on album variants are they a big deal is twitter just blowing this up because taylor's reached a level of fame where everybody's just trying to find a reason to tear her down. But yeah, what's your guys' opinions on this? Thanks. I mean, he brought up the Russ tweet, and that's what I was going to bring up as well.

I agreed with what Russ said. If you have the ability to create a fan base that will buy multiple products from you, I don't think there's anything to condemn there. Like, if you have that ability where they will be that diehard to spend their money. To feed your fan base? That way. like it's not feeding your fan base but i'm never going to get mad at taylor swift being so good at creating a cult that they will buy multiple versions of the same album if that's what they want to do

i mean this is still america right they can do what they want with their money yeah i don't think there's anything wrong with that i i agree now if you want to feed your consumer if you want to fight it on the basis of you feel like it's skewing numbers when you release a deluxe a deluxe a deluxe deluxe and a deluxe If you feel like it's skewing numbers, you want to argue that. That's an argument that people have been having. I get that. But skewing numbers, that's only become, well, let me not say only become something recently, but it's heightened in social media stand culture as of late.

Of course, like once 50 and Kanye battled it out, that started the whole numbers talk for everything. But now it's to a whole different level. Numbers don't matter to the world. Like, it doesn't matter. Who cares if she manipulates the numbers there? Like, that doesn't affect the. anyone's life except for this label in her. That's not, well, that's not true.

I don't think that that's what she's doing or I don't care if that's what she's doing, but that's not true. You yourself, and this, and this wasn't numbers manipulation. Your life changed because Tina Turner died before your album came out. And you were not able to get the number one R&B album, which you would have had had Tina Turner not died and people streamed her music and she beat you. So granted Taylor's going number one anyway. But as far as just period on the overall.

scale of large artists manipulating things and releasing deluxe's, deluxe's, deluxe is where their album now keeps going back up to number one, which may keep somebody else from getting a number one on a country chart or R&B chart or a Billboard 200. So that does affect other people. I'm saying from the fan side. Like that's just become a stand, like it doesn't affect anyone's life if Taylor Swift is manipulating. Now, yeah, if I'm an artist and in my contracts, with a major. I get a bump on in advance because if I hit a number one or stipulations like that, yeah, I'm going to be

fucking pissed. I mean, I wasn't mad at Tina Turner, but it would have been nice to say hey, I had number one, but again, it also didn't affect anything about that album. Like, the album got the same amount of streams that it would have had it been... Yeah, of course. I think I ended up number three.

It was two Tina Turner. Oh, yeah, two Tina Turner. Yeah. I like to get a number three when I should have had number one. but I mean yeah I wasn't really mad at that but I also am independent like there's certain milestones that if I hit doesn't affect what my deal will be yeah but to the fans that talk about all this shit like these numbers don't affect any of you yeah like I know it's cool like if you're a barb to be like I'm happy I can say Nikki has a number one but if Nikki has a number two pause the album is still going to be the exact same to the consumer yeah like nothing is going to change

because of the numbers. But Russ's point is why the fuck would you be mad at an artist that is utilizing their fan base? If y'all want to buy a bunch of shit, do it. To play devil's advocate, because I agree with Russ, but to play devil's advocate just to have a conversation, if the fan base is young kids, which Taylor does have a lot of in her fan base, then you could say that you're manipulating a younger fan base to continue to spend money on your stuff. Then I'm going to get on my camera on Bill O'Reilly thing. That's the parents' fault. If Amara comes and says, I want three versions of the same Taylor Swift album, Amara, you're

getting one. Yeah. You're getting one of them. Now, I think there's a lot of Swifties that are adults that have great jobs and however they want to fucking spend their money as long as not harming anyone. Who are we to judge anyone for that? We all buy weird shit. I was just talking about buying pussy.

Like, yeah. But, I mean, but me and you have had, we had an arm. Call on pussy weird shit is hilarious. Me and you had a disdise. a disagreement that we ended up cutting out of an episode as far as when I said you should start a Patreon, a personal Patreon. And then we talked about our own Patreon that we have as far as like, and you were like, well, I feel bad having fans pay for things.

And I said, and I said the exact same thing to you where I said, that's their fucking choice to spend their money. You're not holding a gun to their head. And you're like, I feel like I'm asking them for money. And it's like, no, you're providing something. And either they find it valuable or not valuable. And it's up to them to spend their money on it. Yeah.

I mean, I guess I just view the consumer thing as what their like monthly overhead is and like what we're asking. Like, all right, this month we're asking someone to pay for $20 tier. We're releasing merch at this price. Oh, we also have live tickets on sale. Like I think about those types of things because I do care about our listeners like to just add more shit. Yeah. But that's what they're...

You weren't wrong in anything you were saying. It was like just more of a morality thing of like, damn, I like, I don't, do I want to I asked them to spend another $10? Like, I know how it should be. And that's what the people... You have morals? That's what the people are saying about Taylor Swift. Okay, but here...

It says she has no morals? No. They're saying that she's not considering the consumer. Or you're just doing what most celebrities or stars do. Like, people who... You're trying to find a way to... Yeah, you're trying to find a way to... You can't please everybody, but you want to try to please as many as you can.

So maybe you can't get this album... Maybe you can't get this merch. Maybe you can't go to this live show, but somebody can. Somebody can get the merch. Yeah, you get different options of shit. Different options of things that you can buy and support your artists or, you know, whoever it is. I think you're both right.

That you're supporting, but I don't think it's something that should be frowned upon. Now, I do get where that can kind of trip the numbers and things like that, but somebody like Taylor Swift, that doesn't. She's Taylor Swift, bro. The numbers are going to be the numbers, no matter if she has one version of her album or 17 versions of her albums, the numbers are going to be incredible. Like that's just what it is. Yeah.

And back to another conversation we had when we were talking about like the billboard change, like the bundling rules with after what like Travis was doing and that entire thing. I never saw anything wrong with that either. I understand why Nikki was complaining about it because she felt like she should have had the number one. I get that. But I know artists up to Taylor Swift are getting fucked.

They're getting manipulated by a label. You have to find other strategies to me. manipulate a system that's manipulating you. So yeah, of course I'm going to try to bundle something. Of course I'm going to try to sell different versions of this. I'm getting fucked over here anyways. This system is not even designed to be an artist friendly system. I have to find new ways to do the shit. Right. To make, not to say Taylor Swift needs more money, but, you know, just in general for any artists. It's not, it's tricking a system that's tricking the artist. That's why I was never mad when people did bundles. Travis, hell you. You're fucking great designer with your merch.

you're a great artist like yeah work the system that's trying to work y'all already right i've never mad at that type of shit no it can't be mad at so i that's why i even love that like people care about vinyl again just because i know that's going to help so many artists because people will stream their music but also want to buy a collectible of the same shit like to me that's that's cool for an artist it's part of being a consumer part of being a fan of the created the artist um again i get how some people like to have that argument about what it does for the numbers and things like that and they feel like the artist is trying to play the numbers game. And again, even if that is what the artist is trying to do, what is the problem?

You're in the music business. You're in the business of selling music, selling products. So, I mean, it is what it is. And let's not act like fans and consumers aren't like, I mean, at least the nerdyer ones like myself, aren't like collectors. Like, if I'm a hardcore Taylor Swift fan, you mean you're not? Of course. Of course I'm a Swiss. Okay.

Just checking. I'm part of this. I'm part of the six million sales. Yeah, you're about to get your swiftly car. revoked real quick. If I'm a hardcore Taylor Swift fan and I collect shit, I'm like in devile yeah, I'll buy three different color

versions because I like to collect things. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. No. Now, if you're manipulating shit with whether it be bots or behind the scenes, like with other, that's a whole separate conversation, but direct to consumer with a product,

you know what wrong with that shit? Not at all. Sell it all. If they'll buy it. If they buy it, I'm selling it. Yeah. everything must go maybe even you was that from next Friday I thought did I remember that

everything must go maybe even you I know you won't buy pussy would you would you sell your body because you said if someone's buying would I sell my body yeah nah because it'll be a humbling thing like when you see how much you go for in the market space like how much you thought you would go for and how much people are willing to pay that's like a very

humbling thing so yeah no Yeah, I would do it, but I know that the price would like it. They try to get you on clearance. Roy would be on the clearance, right. Yo, your dig being on sale. They found my dig in a thrift store. Yeah, they're like, well, that's Roving. I guess.

Put that in the cart, man. Damn. Wait, I'm the welfare cereal. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't even, I don't even want to guess. Would you get like a mold made of yourself? Instead of like, what's the, what's like, what's like, the big sex toy

distributors. I don't know, a shirt off the back of my head, but I can look at it. Yeah, what's the Hasbro of that? Oh, definitely Adam and Eve.

If Adam and Eve came to us and said, yo, we want to make the Rory Mall bundle. Wait, but now, bundle means we're in the same pack. Yeah,

it'd be a guess. It's like the Jordan, you know, the joys that come to in the case? That means our dick's touching in the pack? No,

no, no, it's separate packages. Oh, okay, sorry, all, cool. If it was separate packages, yeah, I'm fine.

But if Adam and even process it was like, yo, we want to do the Rory Mall bundle, and we got to take a mold. I wouldn't be opposed to them. They had to take a mold of our penis and sell it. I don't think people would buy mine. But I would do it. It would be funny to me. You think people would buy malls? I don't know.

Why are you trying to make things? I've seen my dick. I don't think people would buy mine. I'm like, you think they would buy more. Like, have some respect for yourself. I've never seen mall shit and not. I've never seen mall's dick. I've seen mine.

Okay. And I don't want to. I've seen mine. I know, like, I've been in the sex store. Like, there's better options out there. Yeah. Like, I've walked past that aisle. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah.

This isn't me. Yeah, I walked past the aisle. Like, who is that going in? Like, it was like... Well, there's his thighs for everyone. That shit is insane. Who is that going in? I thought that was for the door.

Dickie and a doorstopper? You were saying to marriage? I'm sorry, baby D. You know what? You said there was other options? There's not just the big dick in the corner? Yeah, they have, like, like that you could advertise like you could be for anal.

Baby they love going. The second and third time. She loved going. No, I'm saying. You could be for anal. All right. I tried to gas him up. He didn't want to be gassed up.

So now sit there. I don't know. Yeah, if Adam and Eve approached us, I don't know. All money ain't good money. That might be good money though. Yeah, but. That's great money. Take a mold of my shit and, like, put it on the shelf.

Like, nah. That's. Peach. Would I have a fucking flashlight? He said, have you. ever. He not said, he didn't say would. He said have you. Have you ever. I have never fucked with. I would feel so weird. I think dude that's into that would like fuck a corpse. Peas was looking for a community and now you're about to diss him. I don't think you're wrong.

I don't think it's something like if I see you have like a fleshlight, you just like climbing the ladder of like corpse. You're on your way for sure. Yeah like that's a fleshlight. What is that? Like why would you even? But like the actual like with. the ass, you definitely fuck a dead person. If you fuck. Bro, that is weird to me. I'm sorry. And I know you say don't king shame, baby, D.

But that's, you walk in the dude's house and your first time going to your boyfriend house and he go to the store and leave you alone. You know you're going through his shit. All of y'all do it. Everyone, every woman can't wait to have that 30 minutes alone in a nigga house for the first time. Yeah, true. You go through his shit. You open his closet.

You go, because y'all, you know, y'all go to the back of the closet. You go to the back of the closet. And you see an Adam and Eve box. And it's just like a fucking. torso. It's just ass and pussy. What if it was gifted to us based on our deal with it? And then you look at it and you could tell it's been used because it's still a little oily. Like the cheeks has still got a little oil on it. He ain't washed it. He didn't

wash it thoroughly. So it's not like he's like, no, he's been going to work on the sheets. Like you can tell. When you ain't there, like he's going crazy on corpse, right? Do you mention it to him? Do you bring it up to him? Or do you act like you never saw it? I leave. And never speak to him again? Well, hold on. I have a conversation. So you king shaming. If the conversation, the person that I don't know. Not kink shaming. Why are you leaving?

Because not every kink is for me. But I would have a conversation with him and say, hey, how did you get this? Because it's some weird shit. How did you get this? Amazon? No, real shit. It's some weird shit in my house. He was called Rory and Moll.

You bought a fake pussy with real money. These diggas are idiots. You bought a fake pussy with real money? There are some weird things in my house that I have been gifted because of this job. Y'all know we get sent some weird shit and some shit. We ain't never been gifted. a fleshline. Well, not that, but some shit that's close to it. Don't we have one here? Yeah. We have a fake pussy somewhere in this office? Yeah, exactly. We would gift to that?

No, I bought it from Amazon for one of our sketches. Okay. Yeah. But sometimes people have weird shit on accident, like, whatever. So I don't know. He could have said, yo, my homeboy left this shit here in my house as a joke. Like, there could have been anything. So I would have a conversation with him. No, but it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it got oil on it. But I don't, there could be an explanation. Spank marks on it. Like, he's been spank. He's been spank. He's been tan that ass up. there's a whole chunk of the ass missing like he bit the cheek

the corpse toy is like he got red spots on it he's been spanking it you're not gonna be like yo he's a weirdo I'm going the person that the person that I am with

I would have a conversation with a random it's my first time at a man house and no there's no really no conversation I'm leaving before I'm next I just never been that horny man I'm sorry

but some of your listeners might so you don't want to offend them nobody should be that horny and if you are they should put you in the back of the prison. Okay, Maul, what if she has that, um, that contraption that has the dildo, but like that shit looks like it run on gas. Like it has a stick and it moves. Oh, like the, um, but she doesn't do only fans. She does like, it's not for work. Like she just, she just has that

that shit in her crib. Fuck you up, peach. Yeah, that's too much. Yeah. It's too much. Yeah. Get a little vibrator. This morning. Yeah, like, why are you, the whole machinery? The machinery is, like, you feel, you feeling something up with oil to, to get fucked is kind of It is, it plugs in. What type of batteries? All right. Baby, how you got so much info in these contraptions and these? Because, well, that's obvious.

It's not, it doesn't run on oil. Like, I'm just using my fucking confidence. Do you guys? Do you guys still have sex toy parties? Like, where y'all have, like, parties where y'all just like somebody, like, one of your home girls, like, has a bunch of sex toys for sale and stuff like that. You know, I just. Oh my God.

I forgot about those. I'm sure that. You should go to a rose party? That I didn't. It was the Rose Bowl. You went to the. Baby D went to the Rose Bowl. For listeners who are new.

And won. She won the Rolls ball. She held the trophy up at the end. All right, baby, I'm sorry. Go ahead. For listeners who are new, there was a thing going around on TikTok that they wanted to have a rose party where it was basically women, it was a circle jerk. Women sat in a circle and held the rose to their vagina and see who could last the longest

without coming from the rose, right? So we had a clip that did pretty well where I said I was going to the Rose Party. It was a joke. But anyway, yes, people still have sex toys where they sell sex toys. I have not been the one since I was like 18, but they still have them. It's like Mary Kay, but for Dildos. Yeah. I mean, Avon, but for Dildos.

Ding, Dong, Yavon. Wait, so it's like their brand? Like they're selling. No, they're like, it's kind of like Avon. Like, it's like, you know. Somebody just has a bunch of products. And they sell them. Invite friends over.

They're like, oh, what's this? What does this do? You kind of just like learn what all the toys do. And then if you want to, you know, try it on yourself. Try it on yourself. There's like a dressing room.

No, no, they do it right there. No, they don't. They do not do that. Well, I'm sure there's something that did. Anyone I've ever been to, they did not do that. It was just like, oh, okay. And you take it home and that's that. Mm.

Nothing like a good circle jerk. Pause. Now, clip that. Yeah, no, no. Start the episode with that. Yeah. Oh, man. But yes, Taylor Swift, I'm not mad at her doing this with her album.

You know, she has the ability to, you know, feed her fan base. And her fan base wants to consume anything that she puts out. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Well, do we have any more voicemails or is that it? This has been fun. We will see you guys very, very, very soon. Thank you, Josh.

You're getting better at Googling. I wouldn't see that. I wouldn't. Just practice. Just go home tonight. I feel like it's declining. Just go home tonight, Josh, just Google anything and try to get it right. Yeah, Josh, doing practice.

practice your Googles. You know what, Josh, tonight? I'm going to just start texting you random topics. I just got to see. How fast? How fast he's in it back? How fast? Get to it.

I'm going to take to it with the watch. All right. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigger. He's just ginger. Peace.

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