New Rory & MAL - Episode 418 | Class Act

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Rory is off at sea so we got Demaris taking over co-hosting duties. After a quick weekend recap, Mal gives his take on the Cash Money-No Limit Verzuz. Megan Thee Stallion released a new pu$$y poppin a...nthem which has Demaris conflicted. A stat that caught Mal’s eye has him thinking Hip-Hop really might be dying. Mal and Demaris got Keke Palmer’s back after backlash from the “Southern Fried Rice” trailer. Plus, Baby D has more questions about the NBA, and we get an update from a caller who is trying to keep a long distance relationship going #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Or no, that's 10. That's 1. How do that? 5, 6, 7. 8? Yeah. Niggas go to Atlanta, boy, I'm telling you, telling you the education down there, it kind of bleeds into you, don't it?
Starting point is 00:02:40 That shit just seeps into you, don't it? Yo, I was really sitting there like, damn, what the fuck is the number? I was over there struggling. What's the number that Ryan would appreciate? Yo, damn. Yo, what's up? Baby D fresh off Atlanta? What?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Like, don't stop. Why are we coming in on my shit? Why we're not coming in on your shit? No, because I'm just saying, like, you just got it in fresh out of the airport. smelling like flights and hotels i know that phrase i'm not i ain't not no hotels oh my bad my bad i forgot what's happening my bad baby d i forgot how you feeling though i'm feeling good i went out there to go to one music fest yeah you did tell us that yeah i went out who phone ringing yours your phone and who's going to answer it answer the phone man answer the who is that hello who is that
Starting point is 00:03:31 Who is that? Mawks Give me the phone Yo Now I'll call you later Move man Now don't do that Yo why you're hanging up
Starting point is 00:03:42 That's crazy Because you was about to go You're like yo who phone ringing Your phone ringing So now that you answer Let me say hello Fuck no Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:52 Niggas try to make sure You said you were supposed to be You got to chill You really got a chill How was it though I was Atlanta So one music festival was cool, but I over did it. I overdid it, bro. I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:04:06 how you overdo it at an R&B festival? Well, first of all, it was wrapped there, too. Was it? Yeah, it wasn't just R&B. I saw Warren G perform. I ain't seen Warren G. Ever. Shout out to Warren G. Yeah. So, um, Future was the headliner. Like, it was hip-hop and R-Oh, okay. You was outside with the shit. Yeah, they had Dungeon Family performing. Okay. I didn't make it to none of them, no, because after Kaylani, which was at 7 o'clock. Oh, okay. I see what you go. I saw you wanted to see.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So I went to the Henna, I was in the VIP. I went to the Hennessy little activation that they had. Is that where? Where you were that? The Hennessy activation. No, where you was that? Where was the Hennessy? It was in VIP.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Okay, get your shit on. Okay. So I went into the Hennessy activation and they were serving like Hennessy strawberry lemonade and Hennessy espresso martinis. And they were like in big, like big ass cups. And I'm just like, oh, just sipping, sip and sip it. I have forgot I was off the cut water earlier. What's cup water?
Starting point is 00:04:57 So cut water is like a cocktail in a can. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it was like 11% alcohol. So it's not just like, you know, the little 5%. Yeah, not above you. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So that mixed with the three Hennessy cocktails, I blacked out. I do not remember how I got home. I don't remember getting in the Uber. I don't remember getting home, taking my clothes off, getting a bit, nothing. I just remember Kalani and then waking up in a bed at 5 o'clock in the morning. Wow. So you don't know how one music festival went? Nope.
Starting point is 00:05:25 No, cool. And I caught myself vlogging. I have little clips where I call myself vlogging. Like I was like, Oh, I can't, can I see those? I was recording the sky. I swear to God and I was like, yeah. You was laid out, you passed out on your back.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Like what you was doing? Bro, but it was a good time to festival. It was in Piedmont Park in Atlanta, which is huge. It was a huge, huge venue. And they had a lot of, a lot of people. Apparently, Ray J, Pleasure P, Bobby Valentino and Sammy have a group called RSVP. Yeah, remember they did they, um, when they, was that,
Starting point is 00:05:55 that wasn't a versus. Did they do a versus? Together? Even if they were on stage and remember, you don't remember that? You don't, you don't remember at the, I think it was at the Noville Theater. Novel Theater in L.A. Oh, okay. You don't remember when Ray J. was on, they was all on stage?
Starting point is 00:06:07 No, I don't remember. But when I knew that they were all performing together, but RSVP sent me. Yeah, that's when they said the name of the group, RSVP. We spoke about that. I think we did speak about that. When they were performing, I came to realize why our R&B niggas so short and stocky. They all short. Like them niggas together all.
Starting point is 00:06:27 put together don't hit seven feet like now I'm dead ass they were all standing I'm like all of you niggas are mad sure they I mean they did a good job no ray J Mike wasn't on but I mean that's whatever right to be expected he's like rage is a legend though he is rage is a legend yeah that mic sounded just like the track he did not I don't think he whispered a word before we go any further we are back and sponsored by boost mobile unlimited talk text data and espresso hinnisie espresso martini's for baby D Rory is not here today, baby D. Doesn't it feel like we...
Starting point is 00:06:59 There's no oppression in the room, right? No oppressors. No oppressors. Rory is on the Rock the Bell's cruise. He's listening to the locks as he crosses the Mediterranean Sea right now. I mean, I don't know where they're at. But, yes, hopefully he's having a good time. Nothing but underarm a long-sleeved dry fit in his suitcase.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So he had to carry on. And bottles of wine. You know you can bring your own wine in the cruise. Can you? You could pay to bring you. Bring bottles of wine. Wait, what? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You can bring alcohol on a cruise? You can bring bottles of wine, yeah. Wait, why you keep saying it's just wine? Yeah, I think so. I don't think you could bring liquor. I mean, that's all I think is. Like, you can bring like a bottle of wine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 One or you can bring multiple bottles of wine? I'm not sure. It depends on a cruise line. Wow. Some people sneak them on, like sneak things on. Yeah. I never knew that. You can bring some alcohol on a cruise, but it depends on the cruise line and the type of
Starting point is 00:07:51 alcohol. Most lines allow you to bring one or two bottles of wine. or champagne per person in your carry-on luggage. Okay, so yeah, you're going with somebody on a cruise. You bring a bottle, I bring a bottle. We good? Okay, I didn't know that. All right, so he's definitely having a good time.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh, you're having a ball. Yeah, he's having a blast. But today, it's the niggas. It's just us. It ain't been us in a while. It ain't never been us. This is the first time it's been just, I mean, we did half of a Patreon. We did a full Patreon together.
Starting point is 00:08:20 We did? At our very first studio. Baby, I don't remember that. You know, I don't, you know, my, That's when I told you I was going to name my son, Nassir Carter. I remember now. I will never forget when you told me that. I'm not going to do it no more because y'all calls it all times of ghetto bitches.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But how do you feel? Do you still stand firm on that? I think that that's a nice name. I think I'm setting him up for like to be, you know, powerful. What else? Because if we're going to talk about the name, like let's talk about it. Because my mom and pop set me up. I had to find a way.
Starting point is 00:08:55 My name Muslim. That's why you podcast. Yeah, exactly. Like a sold drugs, podcast. Or crack rock. Which one you want me to do? Podcasts or crack rock. Let's do podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:05 What you did this weekend? You worry about with me and Rory. What you did? This weekend, my cousin had a baby shower. Aw. It was the funniest thing. So I pulled up to the venue. So where it was, I used to hang out there because it used to be like a spot.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like it was a strip club on that block that we used to go to and shit. So I get there. I'm like, I ain't been on this side of town in a minute. So we get there. So my boy is dropping me off. and we drop past the spot and it's a dude outside he got a security shirt on
Starting point is 00:09:34 he got a scully and a shikshny on so I'm like hold up so I'm looking at the address he's standing right in front of the number on the door where I'm supposed to go so I'm like I'm like over a circle around one one one time because now I'm texting like yo what's the address again
Starting point is 00:09:48 because I ain't never seen security at a baby shop outside of a baby shop usually your cousins there somebody got it on them just in case so we get back and I'm like yo, this is the spot. So I'm like, all right, to my boy, so he's laughing. So I walked in. I was expecting, homie, to ask for ID.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Because I walked up, I'm like, yo, what's up? He was like, it was good. But he acted like he wasn't opening the door. So I'm like, he's all, you're going in? I'm like, you think I'm walking up and saying hello to you? Like, yeah, I'm going into baby shower. He let me in and whatever. So when I get in, I hadn't met my cousin's boyfriend yet.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I never met him. So when I get in, I don't see nobody I recognize. So now I'm really feeling like I'm in the wrong spot. So then I look, look, and then I saw my sister, my pops, my sister, my mom's. They was like towards the back. So I'm like, okay, cool. But it was cool. It was a cool.
Starting point is 00:10:34 But why was security there? You still have that ex-exper. But think about it, though. Shit goes down at baby showers. Yo, that being your explanation? Mr. Black, Cass today, we can talk. The white man ain't here. We can kick it.
Starting point is 00:10:46 You don't see why there would be a need for security at the baby shower. I mean, I get it. You move on. Yeah. Homey mad. Don't think that. No, it's security at my baby shower. He found out.
Starting point is 00:10:56 you find out today is your shower. He's going to know where it's at. Everybody posting, you know how this error is. Everybody could find anybody. Yeah, so now the ex pull up and he decided that he mad. And now he want to. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So that's, so the sightse the outside explains everything now. Now I understood because I thought about it when I got it. And I was like, I never saw security at a baby shower before. Makes 100% sense now. And when I sat down and thought about it, I said, you know what? We got enough social media to know these things happen at baby shower. Some might pull up, ex-girlfriend pull up, she got her cousins with her. So your cousin pussy good is what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:11:34 That's what I heard. That's what I heard. Baby, that's what I heard. I have never thought about that at the day of my life. If it was anybody else and you seen secure at the baby shower, you'd be like, ah, ha, ha, that red snapper. Or, I don't know. I don't know. Her boyfriend seems like a cool guy. He seems like a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Maybe in the streets. I don't know. You know, niggas clean up at the baby shop. Yeah. Niggas put on their best shirt, their best pants, get a nice cut. He might be in the streets. He might have beat. The ops might be ready to run down on him at his baby shower.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I don't know. I don't know what that means. My cousin is what you said. I'm not. Okay. But yes, my cousin had a baby showers. You bought in the baby shower. You got you get good gifts or money.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Well, she had a registry. So I got to go on there and just see what nobody got. Like, I'm pretty sure. Like, you ain't did that yet? But I always do that. Like, whatever like the registry, I'd be like, I'd be like, whatever, anybody didn't get when it comes close to the date, I'll just buy whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:26 A good tip is to bring a Walmart or Target gift card and be like, here, buy whatever people didn't get. Okay, yeah, same thing. Like, I was going to register, but I'm going to, you know, whatever she needs, she knows she got it. Well, did you watch the cash money versus no limit versus. I did watch the cash money, no limit versus. Shout out to cash money and no limit.
Starting point is 00:12:46 You know, a lot of people online today are a little younger. Y'all don't really know. Mm-hmm. Because you was, you was, you was. I'm too young. Yeah, you was like fine. six, maybe four. Only no limit, like person I know is Lil Romeo.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah, see, you don't, y'all don't really know what this was. But this was huge for, you know, just for nostalgic purposes and just the legacy of two of two of the most iconic labels in hip hop being cash money and no limit. But the one problem, we was talking about it before we started. Why was this in Las Vegas? Complex. Fuck that. And I know Complex.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Shout to Complex. We fuck with Complex. But we know Complex. gave them a bag. Of course. We know they, you know, because it was Complex Con and this was, you know, the performance at Complex Con, but this had to be in New Orleans. We were supposed to do this at the Superdome. Like this was not, this is not Las Vegas. So the crowd wasn't really. No, because, I mean, it was people out there for Complex Con. People traveled. You know what I'm saying? So, but it's, it wasn't, it wasn't New Orleans. It wasn't, it wasn't that. I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:53 people obviously knew some of the songs, people were, you know, happy to see the guys perform to the thing. But it wasn't, the energy just wasn't what you hear when you see cash money versus no limit. Yeah. That has to be in New Orleans. Yeah. You understand?
Starting point is 00:14:07 I'm saying? Like, that's just too much history. It's too much, you know, just ties to, like, the community for real. Everybody that's still in the city of New Orleans. I know Hurricane Katrina kind of separated people. But, you know, the essence of what cash money and no limit have. done for that city, you got to have them on stage in New Orleans. So it was cool. It was cool seeing it. No little Wayne, no Turk. I don't know how I'm invested I am at that point when you say,
Starting point is 00:14:35 you know, Wayne is not going to be there. Turk is not going to be there. And it's like. So who, well, did they play little Wayne records though? Well, they play verses from Wayne. You know, obviously they had to play some of his verses and things like that. But why wasn't Wayne there? Like I still don't understand what him and Birdman are like, you know, as far as personally. I don't know, you know, if they're even on speaking terms at this point, I really don't remember. I can't keep up. There's a different head. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I can't keep up with men that don't talk to other men. That's just not my, that's not my DNA. So who won in your opinion? In my opinion, looking at it, I mean, it probably was different
Starting point is 00:15:09 inside the venue, but looking at it, I felt like no limit one. Yeah. I felt like no limit one. I felt like the record's just, just hit a little different. Now, don't get a twist of cash. when obviously juvenile was there, you know, slow motion. I mean, that's, that's a, that's a hood. You okay? My bad. That's, you see what it does soon as you hear? You ain't nobody playing nothing and you just start slow whining in your seat,
Starting point is 00:15:36 just when you hear the song. So, yeah, you know, it was a couple, don't get a twist of cash money. You know, they put on a good show. But looking at it, you know, from what I felt, just looking at it, I felt like no limit, they got the best, the best of that night. Okay. And again, that could be because, again, you don't got, you know, obviously the jugger and out and Little Wayne not being in on stage, it does, you know, it takes away from it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 A lot of people saw it being closer than it was because they, they assumed that with cash money came young money. And I was like, I don't think that that's fair. And I'm happy that they didn't do that, right? Yeah, I'm happy that they didn't do that. I don't think that that's fair in a sense. I mean, yeah, I understand why you say that. But, I mean, it is cash money, young money.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. Like, you never heard any of the Young Money artists saying Young Money, it didn't say cash money at the same time. So, you know, it's obviously ties there in affiliations, but this was just from that era of cash money before Drake, Nikki. You know, Wayne obviously was cash money before Young Money. But Wayne not being there, I think, was just the, you know, it's like, all right, man. Like, this is, you know, we get it. It was still cool to see Juvie and, you know, BG and Baby, Silk, Mia, X. you know, Master P
Starting point is 00:16:53 Mr. P, bro, listen, seeing Master P perform those records and then like really thinking about like the error that Master P had and dominated, we don't talk about, yo, Master P played in the NBA. He was just doing shit. You don't, listen, you can't, that is like, I don't, I really think we didn't stop.
Starting point is 00:17:14 We didn't pause long enough to really like salute Master P for that. Now, it wasn't, he didn't play 82 games in the season. he wasn't on the star and roster and all that opening the day the fact that he was there
Starting point is 00:17:25 preseason and just out there he has a jersey he was on the floor with guys who played the full season bro that is that's almost like
Starting point is 00:17:34 this is like movie shit like you know when the movies should be like yo he went on to play in the NBA like this is what that is
Starting point is 00:17:40 this is like the dude from the hood that was on the block you know getting into some shit whatever whatever straightened out his life
Starting point is 00:17:47 they was like you gotta take this serious he took it serious and really like did something that he didn't you know he wouldn't have a long career but the fact that he even got to that level you know how synonymous rap in basketball is yeah it's the same it's one and the same the fact that master p did what he did in music in the culture and actually played in a preseason NBA game and went on to be one of the greatest it was preseason correct was it preseason so tell me that is crazy tell me about that because i know that we have some somewhat of a
Starting point is 00:18:20 younger audience and by younger, even the younger people, we get old now. So we might not have been exactly around for that. Why did he only play preseason? Like, was he, what happened? Well, I mean, it's the NBA there today. Like, it's not, you know, it's hard for guys that are really good at basketball to make the opening day roster and stay in the league. Like, that's, you know, that's just not something that any and everybody could do. So he wasn't that good. He wasn't good enough to stay on an NBA roster. But he was good. But he was good. He got to the, you know, played in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Now, some of it may have been just the lower of it. Teams know what it did for marketing and things like that. But still, he got out there and it looked good. Like he was, it wasn't like he was out there and he looked crazy. He couldn't play basketball. Was he better than Brony? Nah, he wasn't better than Brony. No, we ain't doing that.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I was just asking. No, baby, Dee, we're not doing that. I was just asking. Because I know how you felt about Brony. I was just asking. How do I feel about Bronny? I mean, this podcast has been critical of him when he got drafted to the Lakers. No, I mean, I was on, I, I rooted for it.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I like nepotism. No, no, but calling it nepotism, exactly. Oh, it's nepotism. Don't get it twisted. But that's why I was, because, I mean, Master P didn't have nepotism. No, he didn't. No, no, that's up. But, yeah, but no, Bronny is, yes, Bronny will,
Starting point is 00:19:42 Bronny right now and Master P back then, if they played each other, Bronny would destroy Master P. Oh, okay. Like, yeah, there's no, it's not even like, we're not going to do that. Like, he absolutely would. I was just, but I mean, I still support nepotism. Okay. I'm shout out to Bronny.
Starting point is 00:19:54 You know, I hope that he has a great career. But yeah, we didn't, we didn't give, we didn't, the coach you didn't stop long enough to really salute that moment for Master P. Like, like making a preseason NBA game. Like that is something that we haven't seen. We probably will never see again. Jay Cole plays ball. He never was on a preseason roster. I mean, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:20:14 He was, did he play for like Africa or somewhere Cole was playing for? Baby D. What? Have you seen the African team? Don't do that. Like, come on. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:20:24 We're not doing that. I'm just saying it's just a difference is all I'm saying. Shout out to Cole. You know, he's trying to pursue that too. But even Jay Cole knows how crazy that is that Master P played with the Raptors and the Hornets. Okay. Oh, he's two teams.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like, come on, man. This is, like, we didn't, the coach didn't stop. We didn't pause long enough to salute that. So shout out the Master P. Shout out the Birdman. Shout out the cash money, no limit. the versus again I would have liked to see it
Starting point is 00:20:51 in New Orleans personally because just the energy would have been completely different would have loved to see Turk there Birdman had some things to say in regards to Turk not being there towards the end of the set but you know we're not going to highlight
Starting point is 00:21:02 the negative shit but hopefully man they could do this over and do it right or just don't even make it a versus just do a cash money no limit show at the Superdome in New Orleans it ain't gotta be a versus it could kind of be like what JD was planning on doing with Bad Boy
Starting point is 00:21:15 versus So So Def whatever was going to go in, you know. Do you think JD was scared? Nah, hell, nah. Y'all don't know J.D.'s. That's what I'm saying. Yaddy's history.
Starting point is 00:21:25 First of all, first of all. Nah, you don't, baby, D. I'm not asking because I believe that J.D. is scared. What I'm saying is, do you think- No, I mean, and like, not you, y'all. There are people that feel like that. Okay. No, because I just feel like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Like, because his history is so big and people, I don't know if people would expect, I don't know if he would be considered the underdog in that situation. Right. If we do. If JD would be the underdog? Yes. He would definitely be done. Only because Puff is a bigger figure.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Okay. He's a more polarizing figure. But now, again, that's what J.D. likes, though. He wants that because J.D. don't care about that. The end of the day, when we start playing these records that I really produced. Because then it's that part. Oh, Shade. No, no, no, it ain't Shade.
Starting point is 00:22:07 It's facts. Clack it. It's just facts. Because we're talking about producers. J.D. plays. He writes. He also raps. Puff gives you know he gives you that he gives you that that style and that flair that
Starting point is 00:22:23 that or not say it like this like Puff do that he got sauce that's what he does you got remember Puff comes from the party promotion game he know how to have a party and how to you know what's going to make people move so he come from that JD played drums you get what I'm saying like so he comes from he dance he was breakdance and he was so he comes from that part of it so it's just like you know it would have been interesting, but yeah, that that I wanted to happen only because I really feel like people don't give Germain DePree. You know, obviously they say Mariah Carey. They say Usher. But no, we got to go brat. We got to go criss. We got go criss. We got to go Bow Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:03 He got real songs with Biggie. He got real songs with Little Kim. So these are things that people forget. I think he got songs with Mace. So these are things people forget when when puffing them was popping him, bad boy was putting them joints out. J.D. producing for a lot of those artists on bad boys well but people forget about that because that was early 90s they could they really connect when you think jd you think usher you think you think rb you think you think usher you think bow wow but you think usher mariah carey like exactly how you said you know remember the back in the day they don't remember the the you know money ain't a thing with jz they don't remember those records they don't you know what i'm saying life of 1472 they don't
Starting point is 00:23:40 remember that album so it's like you know i wanted to see that happen only because i think it's what the versus does is it reminds a newer generation. It also shines light on, damn, like, that record still sounds. Because even watching the no limit cash money, I'm hearing about it, bowed and all that. I'm like, I got to put this on a gym playlist. Like, I forgot how. It still, it is about. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:02 I'm in the crib watching that shit. I'm doing this just about it about it. I'm like, now this shit, I forgot how just that energy of what it did when you first heard those songs. So I wish we obviously are not going to get that versus with Jady. But I think we missed out on a moment, you know, where they would have did that in Atlanta at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium. I mean, I think that at that point is just a party. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:26 We letting JD and Puff DJ and just have, you know, going down that lane of a memory lane of hearing those records. But, yeah, I think people need a lesson in Jermaine DePrito because they don't give JD his props when it comes to hip-hop rap as much as they should. R&B, I think that's clear. But let's not forget about what Jady did in hip hop and rap as well. Yeah. And I think it's because he doesn't. He's not a flashy person. He's humble.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, he's not a flashy person. That's another thing. Being humble sometimes to leave you out of the conversation because you ain't braggardosis and you don't talk your shit, it's easy to forget about you. When the loud niggas and the boisterous niggas, they're like, yeah, yeah. But then when you're like, listen, fuck all. Play them records, though. And then I really produced that.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Like, I really went in there and played that. That's a different conversation. That's why I be trying to get y'all to talk y'all shit. And y'all be like, nah, we cool, we humble. New balances and upside down hats. Like, nah, talk your shit. But I'm just, that's just not me, baby, Dee. I've never been that.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I mean, I was. But now that would be crazy for me to start trying to, like, we're just doing a part. We're just talking to our shit, man, that's all. This is just podcast, have fun. I ain't got no ego when it comes to this shit, man. I just like kicking and talking about shit, that's all. Well, don't worry. I will pop it for y'all.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Pop it, baby, Dee. As always. Per usual type shit. Speaking of pop it, Meg the Stallion's new video, Love a Girl. Yo, I walked in. I walked in and these things be blasting. Love it, man. Man.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Man. Man. Because look, baby, look, because I didn't see the video. I was sure you did. I saw clips of it. Obviously, Meg was teasing it like for the last couple of weeks given. I'm like, okay, I like that sample. That's that total kissing you.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You know what I'm saying for those that don't know. So I heard, I was like, okay, damn, the video came out. I said, let me watch the video. So now I remember the conversation we have. And if you stop right there. Josh to open the scene. Stop right there. No, no, go back a little bit
Starting point is 00:26:17 to the red and black to the red and black right there. Now, we had a conversation right there. We had a conversation last week, right? And there was,
Starting point is 00:26:29 I don't know, I didn't say it because I think Meg is a pussy rat. Now, obviously she can rap. I think Meg can really rap. But she's, we call it pussy rap. Right?
Starting point is 00:26:36 We call it the pussy rap. We're in the pussy rap era. This is a Patreon conversation for people who listened. Patreon. Patreon 4 slash New Orleans $5. I was ad-free.
Starting point is 00:26:45 So we was talking about Meg being a pussy rapper. And, you know, I was like, nah, she didn't really push. She can really rap. Yeah, she can really rap. I think I like Meg. She can rap. She can talk shit. But it still falls on the pussy rap.
Starting point is 00:26:55 The opening shot in this video, to me, maybe these are one of those things where it's like, what do you see when you look at this? I mean, maybe I need to sit down with a therapist. Maybe it's a butterfly. You just, you got bad. Maybe that's a butterfly. Maybe I see a clip. I mean, one.
Starting point is 00:27:13 could take it as that. The clit is moving. Meg is the clit. The clip is moving. I'm just telling you what I see. Okay. Maybe. Meg, I'm sorry if I'm not trying to, listen, I'm not. Trying to sexualize her. I'm not trying to sexualize you, Meg. Not more than you already do. You look great, Meg. You look fucking amazing. But the opening scene, baby, Dee. It's artistic. I think it's beautiful. Put it in the Louvre. Put it in the fucking Louvre. But we got to call it where it is. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's definitely alluding to
Starting point is 00:27:47 vaginal aesthetics, right? Yeah. Vaginal aesthetics. You got to get in there. Right? So I was sold as soon as I saw the opening scene. I'm like, I'm in.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I'm in. And then kissing you is a double entendre. Come on now. Now you're talking my language. That's what I do. Right? Okay, cool. Megan 3,000.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm on board. I'm on board. I'm a Meg fan. I love Meg. but she's a pussy rap and she loves the pussy aesthetic she loves her thing she is
Starting point is 00:28:19 she is and I had to bite my tongue when this song came out which I was so excited for and I do love this song but I thought you know with the clay debut I'm like all right Megan's moving into her grown woman
Starting point is 00:28:32 like I'm in love like you know we're gonna settle down get married type nope it's still pop that pussy for your man bitch we still pop a pussy but just this time it's not fuck man It's I'm popping pussy for my man.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Hey. She's showing growth. She's showing growth. For your man. Don't just be out here popping it for your man. I approve this message. I do too. I endorse it.
Starting point is 00:28:59 When is the rally? I'll be there. I'll be like 21 Savage at the shut. What was it? The whole slut walk. The host added. Oh, I'm sorry. My bad hand, but slut walk.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I'll do that for Meg. I'll be at the next. What is it called? Slut walk. I think they canceled them, but yeah. Why did they cancel that? I don't know. You niggas having no king rallies.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Ma. You niggas is having no king rallies. That alone says that there's no kings. You can't have a no king rally and it be a king. You niggas will be hung by midnight. All you niggas. So we need to bring the slut walk back. Bring something back that the culture didn't want to see go.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I wasn't ready to see the slut walk go. Ma, do you know what the slut walk was about, though? What it was for? Body positivity. body empowerment women's ability to exist in themselves without having to be sexually assaulted that was the main thing
Starting point is 00:29:52 I support that's what I'm saying I'll go I'll go that I support let's support that let's rally for that load up the buses get us to DC wherever the next slut walk maybe how do we start how do we how do we bring back the slut walk we bring everything back you brink is bringing back
Starting point is 00:30:11 all these old movies that's wack now. Nobody want to bring back the shit that matter. I was watching Sister Act on Netflix. That's so funny. Josh, can you look up why they got rid of the slut walk? What happened to it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:24 These are the questions I'm here to try to answer, baby D. Bring back the slut walk. We need the slut walk back. But shout out to Meg. Video's amazing. She looks great. They said Meg and Clay Thompson remind them of Duncan Pender Hughes and Demeter from class. See, you're too young.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You never seen Class Act. The fuck? You never seen. No, I've never seen it. Pete, you seen Class Act? Y'all never seen Clash Act? Y'all are too young. Y'all don't know the classics?
Starting point is 00:30:49 No, I've heard of it, but I've never seen it. Pull up a picture of Duncan Penderhue's. Oh, good luck with Josh. And, to me. Oh, God, Josh. God, damn it, Josh, you're killing me. Dunkin Penderhues. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Just put Class Act. Got it. Where is it? Where is it? they got to have a picture Demeter. Well, that's Duncan. Well, kid from Kid and Play played Duncan Penny Hughes. But Demita, the girl in his school dad was like the bombshell, brown bombshell beauty.
Starting point is 00:31:24 They had a picture of them two in class right there. They said, that's Clay and Meg. I was crying. You got to know this movie to really understand how funny that is. When they say, yo, this is Clay and Meg. But you got to, baby, I got to make a list of all. Because you've never seen Boys in Hood. First of all, putting that on me crazy as fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:43 No, no, what movie? You didn't see, it was some movies we named me. But they weren't black movies. Like, there weren't like classic black movies. It was some classic black movies you haven't seen. We talked about this. I think the only classic black movie I haven't seen is, um, what's the one with the black and white like face?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Dead presidents. Dead presidents. I haven't seen it. Yeah. I haven't seen it. No, it was some other movies. Don't do that. It was some other movie.
Starting point is 00:32:05 We would have to pull up the list of black movies. There's a couple I haven't seen, but what are you looking for? I need some tissue. I'm sorry. Peace. Can we pause? Maul, I know you're thinking about upgrading to an all-new iPhone 17 Pro designed to be the best and most powerful iPhone ever. You're my thoughts again.
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Starting point is 00:39:18 We was talking about hip hop being dead. You know, they've been saying, we were saying that for years. It's hip hop dead. It's hip hop dead. So in September, four hip hop songs were on a global charts in September. Okay. Five years ago, they were 56 on the global charts. That's a big drop.
Starting point is 00:39:38 It is. That's over 90%. gone, right? We had to talk with Berg, shout the hitmaker. He came by the set last week, and he posed a question because we were saying, you know, women are dominating rap right now as far as like they're being more stars, newer stars, and rap, most of them are women. And he said, well, name, you know, some stars, superstars under 35 on the men's side.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Like, don't name the legacy acts. Don't name the guys that have been in for years. And it stumped us. It was obviously the NBA young boy. You know, we acknowledge that. Not saying, you know, but it is interesting to see women dominating hip hop rap now. And then now, in September, only four hip hop songs on a global charts. I'm not saying this is women's fault.
Starting point is 00:40:36 How you, okay. No, no, just listen. But we have to, because this is just data. This is analytics. Like right now, yes, women are dominating. Okay, so that's where I want to stop you because women are not dominating rap. How? Because them four songs that are on the global charts, I guarantee that they're not women's songs, unless it's from Carrey's album.
Starting point is 00:40:54 What were the four? Josh, can you look up the four hip hop songs that were on the global charts? Women are not dominating rap. Women, there are more, no, there are more women hip hop stars than ever before. That's what I'm speaking to. But that doesn't mean that they're dominating rap because there's still way more men than them. I mean, as far as, yes, I'm just saying the stars, though, the stars, the ones that are. The stars that people would consider stars would be NBA young boy, Playboy Cardi, Travis Scott, Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Those would be who people would consider the big, big stars. Who? NBA young boy, Travis Scott, Playboy Cardi. I don't look at Playboy Cardi. Drake. But the charts do. They acknowledge it. They don't acknowledge him.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Well, yeah, they categorize it as rap for sure. He's rap. So, but I think that's the issue. So you can continue what you were going to say as far as like, do we connect it to more women being there. But I'm going to disagree with you. I don't think that that's it. I think it's that we took the R&B out of hip hop.
Starting point is 00:41:54 We took the soulfulness. Huh? The hook being R&B? We took the soulfulness out of hip hop. And that is what made it more palatable to other genres. Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess I guess it's a lot of that baked into it, I'm not saying that the fact that we have just women dominating or more women dominating rap right now than we've probably ever had.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I'm not saying that's the sole reason for it. There's a lot of things that we can put into it. But to me, I think we start there because we've never had this many women rap stars before at one time. You know what I'm saying? It's like every day we turn around, it's like, oh, shit, like another female MC is coming and she's got a dope record. Like, okay, cool. But does that sustain? Obviously not.
Starting point is 00:42:46 The music in general is not sustaining. Like a lot of music, like, we happy to get mob deep albums and everything that, you know, they're doing that massive pill. We're happy to get all these. And these are all legacy artists. These are all legacy acts dropping new music. But as far as like the newer artists, hip hop is in a scary place. I think hip hop is in a very, very scary place. I think that it's a conversation that, you know, we all.
Starting point is 00:43:11 need to start having and really looking at like, damn, like, what is how? If this happened in five years, if only four hip-hop songs are charting on today's global Spotify chart, like, what does the next five years look like? So the songs that are charting are see you, see you again. I'm going to assume that that's the, with Khalifa, see you again. All the stars, obviously by Siza and Kendrick, both which have R&B hooks. Yeah. And who is timeless in No weekend.
Starting point is 00:43:43 The weekend and Playwork Hardy, right? Okay. That's not right. That's the weekend. That ain't rap. And then what's the other one? No poll. Who is that?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Oh, this is, oh, they're calling that that weekend record hip hop? See what I'm saying? That's where it gets tricky. Yeah. But even still, if you see, those are all, they have R&B.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Is the hook. Yeah. So it's like that's palatable to a wider audience. When you're talking about global, that's palatable to a wider audience, the soul, the R&B, which is the reason why all of our artists when they were doing soul and R&B music
Starting point is 00:44:18 back in the day was so widespread. You see what I'm saying? So when you bring hip hop into it and you got them banging verses and a good-ass hook, like people can listen to that, straight rap, through and through or these bullshit where they're like
Starting point is 00:44:31 doing this drill rap and then they're also singing the hooks and it don't sound good because they can't fucking sing. Like it's just, which I blame. Kim Kanye and drink for that shit, by the way. What?
Starting point is 00:44:41 Rappers singing their own hooks. But rappers used to always sing their own hooks. You know, that was like a thing at one point, like... Not all of them. No, most rappers used to do their own hooks, though. When? I mean, you just go back and listen to like a lot of the biggie shit, a lot of Tupac shit, a lot of early JZ shit, a lot of Nile shit, a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Like, they were doing their own hooks? Well, yeah. But when I'm thinking, so what year did they say they were 56? They said it was how many, five years ago? Five years ago. this is Spotify's top 200 motions. Okay. Oh, this is the Spotify's top 200 most stream tracks.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yes. Okay. Okay. But still. Yeah. It should be more than four. I just think that it's a conversation, man. And we talk about it a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Like, you know, now you listen to a song. It's almost like as good as we all felt the clips album was when it came out, right? Mm-hmm. I haven't played that album in weeks. I'm talking I'm not a single song I played it in weeks and I like it I liked the album, I thought it was good I played it back to back to back
Starting point is 00:45:47 to back when it first came out and then I revisit it every once in a while but I don't play it as often as I did when it first came out but I still do play it pretty often. People don't understand that it's this. It's that phone. Our parents were right.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's the damn phone. This, this, the phone is killing music. As much as we don't want to admit it, the phone is how we listen to me. Like if I'm playing an album right now, I'm connected to the speakers in the crib and I'm playing, I'm listening. Somebody call me. Somebody send me some video to look at it.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I might not even go back to the album tonight. Now I fell into a conversation about whatever, somebody texts me, da-da-da-da, get on the phone. Like, it's not, this takes away from the music experience. As much as I love it, because it is very convenient. I can pull up a song, I can hum a melody into my phone and don't even remember the words, and it'll pull up the song and I can play it. So I love that part of it, but it definitely has taken us away from experiencing music in the way that we used to. Like before you get a CD or you get a vinyl, you put it on, niggas could be in the crib fighting.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Guess what? That music's still playing. Somebody could call you on the phone. I'm on the phone. Music's still playing. Like, I'm still in. I'm still here. I'm still listening in the moment.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'm still consuming the music. Now playing it off my phone, something happens. you know, whatever, whatever. It's like it pulled me away from that. I'm on the phone. I forgot, but that's not just for music with TV as well. Mm-hmm. I could be watching the show, get a call, something, watching something on my phone.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Never revisit it. I don't even know what just happened the last two episodes. The shit just been running. Our attention, our attention span is so short. I will also say that me personally, I don't know if anybody else feels this way. When I, I tire of songs quicker now because of Instagram. So when I'm doom scrolling, which I do do, I have a problem. I need to fix that.
Starting point is 00:47:41 But when I'm doom scrolling on Instagram and I'm doing scrolling on TikTok and people are creating content and I've heard that song a million times. Now, I'm now tired of it. I might have heard it three times on my phone, but I've heard it a hundredth. There are songs that I know full the words too
Starting point is 00:47:56 that I've never downloaded, never heard in my phone, but I know the words simply because I've consumed so much content with that fucking song. Songs live longer on social media than they do in your home. For sure. And in your car.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Because somebody posts a video that goes viral with Doja Cat playing in the background. Everybody, we all seen that shit. Their shit keeps playing us on the real. Like, it lives longer on social media. Then it does like, then you live with it in your personal time. And I mean, again, I'm not saying it's a, yeah, well, yes, I am saying. I do think it's a negative thing.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah. I do. Because it's evident when you see charts like this. It's like, bro, people are not. I just feel like people are just not as attached to the music. as we once were. And the quality of the music, let's be honest,
Starting point is 00:48:43 the quality of the music is just not good. It's not as good. It's not, there is good music out there. But see, baby, these niggas killed me years ago when I said that because I was saying it was easier to get in the music business and get on. I remember, I remember.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Than it's ever, nah, no, it's not. How? I can be a no name. This could be my first album I ever recorded. And if Drake drops tonight, guess who else can drop tonight?
Starting point is 00:49:07 Me. Like, I can put my album on the same DSP, nobody's ever heard of me, but I can put my album on the same DSP as Drake or Beyonce or whoever. And this is my first part. Nobody's, I'm not even, I just made this in my basement and it take off. I can have a song that goes viral. Now I'm getting booked over here, booked on.
Starting point is 00:49:27 You know how hard it was to do that? Just not even, let's say 25 years ago. Like it was, you had to really travel and go to these cities and go hand to hand trying to get people to hear your shit. Now I'll just upload a record tonight. I could be a star next Sunday. And also what the labels are looking for now, from what I see, is no one's looking for the quality.
Starting point is 00:49:50 No one's sitting in these meetings and making these people climb on the table like they did Bobby Shmurda and perform and sound. We needed to get away from that. You niggas don't ever need to be on nobody's table rapping. Like, let's get away from that shit. No one is, there's no quality control. What they're looking for is,
Starting point is 00:50:07 Coach and cute. They down there doing Coach K. And they're looking for is who has the attention. And what people do to get attention nowadays is not be talented. Like you can be talented and get attention, but that's not what everybody's going for. Everybody wants to be some type of like, I don't even want to say content creator,
Starting point is 00:50:25 but there's so many smoking mirrors and like just Fugazi shit going on and shit that's making people a star. That's how you get someone like some of our stars. I'm not going to say any names. But it's like you're not. Good, but you've created this persona that the young kids have fallen in love with and now they're a rock star and they're demonic and it's going viral and you're doing clickbaity shit. And now you have like this cult-based following about a bunch of bullshit that's not good
Starting point is 00:50:52 music. You see what I'm saying? Like so it's like their labels are just looking for, well, who's, all right, you got a little couple songs out. Who's getting the most? You got a lot of social media following or people coming to your shows, this, this, this, this and that. They're not looking for good music.
Starting point is 00:51:07 So bullshit slips through the cracks. Bullshit is allowed to become the biggest. And then because other shit doesn't look like bullshit, it makes it hard for real shit. Now when you make real shit, they're like, oh, you make an old school hip hop. And it's like, no, I'm not making old school hip hop. I'm just making hip hop. I'm making actual rap. But no one's sitting down and listening to actual rap anymore unless you already have
Starting point is 00:51:28 our hearts. Clips already has our hearts. If people would have just came out. Yeah. If unknown people would have came out with that Clips album, people wouldn't have fucking listen to it. It wouldn't have gotten as much, you know what I'm saying? Nowhere near as much of attention, no matter how good it was. But they have our hearts already. So we're going to go listen and be like, ah, this is good. We've missed this. But they're not going to go do all the
Starting point is 00:51:49 silly bullshit that these other artists are going to do to continue to go viral and have viral sounds and all of that shit. So then you come at an impasse because now the internet runs everything. So if you can't pop on the internet, then you're not going to pop on the charts unless it's It was crazy because it was never, it used to be the reverse of that. Like, so I've, you know, again, I'm old enough to remember a group like Millie Vanilly. Mm-hmm. Right. Great record.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Great record. But it was a thing where it was like, yeah, but whoever made that record probably doesn't look like a star. Yeah. Right. Now, you just got to look like a star. Mm-hmm. We could tweak. We can turn the knobs in the studio and we could get the sound to where it need to be.
Starting point is 00:52:33 but before it used to be as long as the music is good that was we lead first is the music good he may not be a star she may not be a star we don't even got to put them in the video we can use somebody
Starting point is 00:52:47 because this is things that really happened there was videos in the 90s where I come to find out that ain't even the person who's on a record that's not even them but they're in the video and they're portraying it
Starting point is 00:52:57 like they're performing a record and that's not even the real artist so it went from that it went from leading with the music being great to now, that's the second, that's secondary. Yeah. Now it's like, yo, what's your personality?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Like, you know what's your, you know, do people love the personality, do they love the look, the aesthetic, you know, the vibe, the energy, okay, cool. Now we could put music, we can put something together, we could cook something up, get them in the studio with the right person, we see it all the time. But then now what happens is you get something like this chart that we have to sit and look back and be like, damn.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Only four? So it's a real conversation to have, man. I just feel like, you know, again, being able to see the many shifts and changes in the landscape of music and things like that and being able to look back. And things are looking a little for the first time that I can remember, you know, people were saying hip hop is dead for years. It's looking dead though. It's looking like, I ain't going to lie. We might have to start going to hospice and visiting this motherfucker. Like, yo, this nigger might be on his way out of it.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Y'all got to start making hip hop music that the old people and that the white people can comfortably rap. That's the only way. The white people and the old people got to comfortably wrap it. Yeah, but white people comfortably rap some of our like, Piz was just going crazy on a no-limit shit. He just told us a beautiful story about how back in 1997 him and his friends would gather around a local Dell computer and look at videos. A local Dell computer.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Because you know it wasn't theirs. Like, you know, none of us had a computer in our home for a while. That was like a, if a nigger had a computer, you was rich. If your man had a computer like in 9-5, you go to your man. I didn't even know they had computers in 9-5. Don't do that. Don't play with me like that. I got my first computer in like 2001.
Starting point is 00:54:46 We're not talking about when you got your first computer. I'm talking about, yes, there were computers in 1990. What did they look like? They would look like it was a big ass box. But it was that shit worked though, baby, D. And if your mom's picked up to make a call, connection was all fucked up. Well, no, it was like that when I first got a computer too. That AOL
Starting point is 00:55:03 My mother would be mad as fuck She's gonna pick up her phone and hear that shit Yeah but white people have always Comfortably rap to rap music The most ghettoist most hood shit They love that They relate to that shit Yes but we're
Starting point is 00:55:17 You also have to remember that we're in a little bit More of a woke era too So it's not They don't feel comfortable rapping that As much as they used to And when I say white people I mean like the Martha Stewart's of the world Well Martha Stewart she's a felon
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah, but I mean old white women. Old white women and old black people, period, like to feel comfortable rapiness. Like now where they hear they're like, what is this book? What is this shit y'all are listening to? Like that. Like you need music that makes them comfortable. And I think that's the music, the rap music that goes far. I think that Drake has done a good job at that. I think Cardi B's album, the reason why it was that big is because she was able to do that too to make, even if it is raunchy, you have singles that sound good to old people. Like, you need all of us to make rap number one again. You can't just cater to the little fucking kids that are on their computers gaming and fucking saying, I hate you, mom. Like, you can't just cater to them. Like, you have to get everybody involved in order to be that big. Hmm? M&M did.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Well, yeah. But also, if you don't, unless you were really straining to hear Eminem or like really listening to shit, you didn't really realize just how horrible Eminem's lyrics were in the shit that he was saying. Because when I was younger and I was singing Eminem, I didn't know what the fuck I. was singing. You didn't know what you was singing when you was singing a lot of this juvenile shit back that ass up. No, I knew what that meant. You working with some ash year, you bad year, make a niggins cashier last year. You know how old you was when that song first came up? How old was? What year to back that ass up first come out? Ninety-eight? Four. Maybe. 97, 99. And that era right there, 98?
Starting point is 00:56:56 But see, how old would you? Four. But see. You knew what you were saying now. You ain't know what the fuck you were saying, but to be fair, the first time I probably heard that song or really heard like really listen to it. I probably wasn't for that song still. You know what I'm saying? That shit still plays and parties. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's another thing. When people say that female rap is too ronchy these days up, like I was, I grew up listening to Trina and Lil Kim.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Y'all aren't about to tell me that Wop is the worst song y'all ever heard. Like I can't, I just can't get jiggy with that. Nah, listen, man, when Wap first came out, they killed me for saying it. That, like hearing, listen, I heard, I had the little. Kim hardcore poster in my room. I had the poster. Like I knew how to... That little Kim hardcore poster shook up...
Starting point is 00:57:40 That shit shook up the culture like crack rock. That shook that... That little Kim hardcore poster, that shook the black community like crack in the 80s. No, I'm... Y'all think I'm joking. Niggas, oh, you wasn't... Matter of fact, in high school,
Starting point is 00:57:55 if you opened your locker and you didn't have that little Kim poster in your locker, you was a lame. You was lame. You were lame. Like, you know, you don't got the hardcore? And then, like, if they heard you had it, open your locker. Here come to principle.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Open your locker. Hayton. Rip my shit right out. Going to get another one. I don't care. Little Kim will be it. That hard core. So, and even it.
Starting point is 00:58:19 But then, Josh, pull up the Little Kim hardcore picture. Watch this. Baby, me. Let me fuck your head all the way up with this one. Look at this picture now with today's 2025 eyes. And tell me what was the problem with this? poster. That thing was fatted in a swamp
Starting point is 00:58:37 possum with the lump. But what's wrong with it? If you look at that, that's almost like that could be in fucking... That can be an IG right on. IG, that could be outside on a bus. Like that can... Yeah. This is a wreck.
Starting point is 00:58:49 There is nothing hardcore about this picture. Mm-hmm. In 2025. Now in 1995 or 96, whatever year came out, oh, you, that shit shook the streets up. Mm-hmm. But this is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:59:02 now we get to the Meg video lover girl Meg if Meg would have stood up in that day they'd be like come on this ain't a gap commercial and Meg if Meg showed up dressed like Little Kim on that hard cup now
Starting point is 00:59:18 they'd be like come on this ain't gap we're not doing the gap commercial like this ain't this ain't gap but you see what I'm saying that was considered so now when you hear WAP but see BASID It's the dangly thing in the back of my throat is
Starting point is 00:59:32 Crave. Stiff dicks feel sweet in this little petite young bitch from the streets guaranteed to stay down. Used to bring work at a town. Greyhound. I'm Bill Boybow. She's moving drugs. Stiff dicks feel sweet in this little petite. Okay. Sex. I know a dude named Jimmy used to run up in me. Late night, pissy drunk off a henny and when he didn't mind it. When he fucked me from behind it, it felt fine, especially when he used to grind it. He was a trick when I sucked his dick. He used to pass me. Come on now. I'm here with you, baby. D. Huh? I'm here with you, baby. You know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:03 That ain't hit the dangly thing in the back of my throat. Come on, bro. I'm just saying. And, and here's the other part of what you just said. How many times did you say pussy? Okay, so what I will say is I rest my case. How many times did you say pussy in all those Little Kim bars? Little Kim has pussy bars.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I'm not, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying she don't. I'm not saying she don't. We speaking on WAP versus all. All that little Kim shit you just gave me. I was there. I was outside, Baby, D. The motherfucker never ate my pussy as a little Kim bar.
Starting point is 01:00:42 No, Little Kim, listen, she definitely has raunchy, wild bars. But you got to go into the album cuts a little more to kind of get to some of that. I'm saying those bars you just spit, that was like, I could, the reason I know Baby D because we used to rap Little Kim bars as a man. As a young nigga in the streets, I used to. How many licks to you? Does it take? No, I wasn't on that.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Okay, all right. That wasn't for me. I couldn't, I couldn't wrap that. He had a big ass dick in a hurricane tongue. You was wrapping that. I didn't do that. I was at the bar when that came up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I'm just saying like, she got those in there, but it wasn't as. It was as. No, it wasn't. I was really there, baby. Sheena says, you don't know how that fuck five, six best friend. Five or six best friends is crazy. I don't know five niggas that best friends together. Your nigs ain't got five best friends, first of all.
Starting point is 01:01:32 That's like, let's start there. Niggas don't got five best friends. Like five or six best friends. You know now. You don't even know, but yeah, y'all don't know. When Trina took the jacket off in that video and we saw the sparkly bra, she fucked the hood. The streets was fucked up after that.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Who is this light skin girl? That's all we wanted to know. Niggas ran home from school to watch BET to catch that video. Yo, who is Shorty with the sparkly? Like, y'all can't make me feel bad about why when there was credit cards getting slid in between people ass, Greg.
Starting point is 01:02:04 That was, go, go watch the tip true video today and then go put on Meg's new video. It's not as
Starting point is 01:02:11 crazy as you think, baby. Back then, yeah, because we talk about the thong song. Go look at that video. The thongs is fat-ass.
Starting point is 01:02:19 That video is like, nigga, this is Baywatch. This ain't no funny. Like, in comparison to today, I'm saying. That's bad ass.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Them thongs were so fat. Hey, come on. What we, this one, it just wasn't as, like, It's just like, I was watching the video.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I asked Pete. I said, was that a lip? I think they missed the edit. I think they missed the edit. I'm like, yo, I think they missed the edit. Don't piss me up. I'm just saying the times have changed. There is way too much.
Starting point is 01:02:52 There is way too much just overt sexuality. And I don't want to put it on the women because it's not just the women. The men have done it too. There's too much overt sexuality in songs now. Like, I want to hear, like, Victoria Monet does a good job at describing sex, but making it like a metaphor. Like, she has a song called F-U-C-K, Friend You Can Keep, which is about friends with benefits. Oh, I thank her for that face-to-face when we did BET. That was so beautiful the way she did that.
Starting point is 01:03:18 You think that. I said, you think of that. I couldn't figure out how to say what you said for years. I was trying to say, I don't want to say, I just want to fuck you. You don't want to tell a girl. I just want to try to fuck. Uh-huh. But now if you say, I'm just trying to be a friend you can keep.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Ooh, she's coming. She's coming. She's over me going, right? Yeah. But if you were like, I'm trying to fuck, nigga beat it. I'm just trying to be a friend you could keep. Now as nigga beat it.
Starting point is 01:03:42 That's why you my nigga. That's why you my nigga. Because you understand. That's all I'm saying. You get it. That's just the way you say it. Yeah. Megan, they can all get their shit off.
Starting point is 01:03:53 It's just the whop. You could get it all. It's just the way you say it. Yeah. You could tell a nigga you got a wet-ass pussy. Wop, cool. I got it. I got this wok.
Starting point is 01:04:01 That's fire. Hit the dangly thing in the back of you. Whoa! How many other niggas have you told this to? Now I got questions on a date. I don't want to spit. I want a gulp. I want a gag.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I want to choke. I do too. I want that. But don't tell me it like that. Like, just kind of make it a little more. When you go back and listen to the lyrics to the like, dabble me, swallow me, drip down the side of me, quick jump out for you let it get inside of me.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Quick jump out. Yeah, I felt a fuck out of that. I hear you, man. I hear you. I've been on the other side of that. I get it. Maybe I'm here to tell you I understand. I'm just saying the way we're doing it.
Starting point is 01:04:39 A couple more meta. We need more metaphor. We just need a little more artistic play to it. We just need to kind of like dress it up a little more as hip hop as rap. Put a little more skill. I was thinking about that when we were talking about how suck it or not is like a legendary song. And I'm like I was thinking in my head like, why do I like suck it? I liked suck it or not so much because, I mean, it was a good song, but it was also very raunchy.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And it's like I like that it was rare for a song to be that. raunchy. It's not rare anymore. It's not rare. Yeah. It's not real. We've become and I don't want to sound, I know we getting older. I don't want to sound like the old, prove people, because we just as freaked out as everybody else, right? We've proven that through the years on this podcast. But there's a, there's a better way to do it. There's a more creative way to do it. And I just wish that people would explore it. But at the same time, when we go into the air of, like we said, the internet and clicks, these are the songs that the labels are picking for to go out because that's what garners attention. And I've, I've, I've complained. I've complained.
Starting point is 01:05:33 about that with Meg before. When people like Meg rap about the same thing, I'm like, when Meg is not rapping about pussy, y'all don't want to hear it. So it's like if I want a career, any of these artists, if I want a career, then I have to either be beefing with somebody or rapping about sex or rapping about intense violence. Like all of the negativity, the negative shit about hip hop has just been amplified. And that's what people seem to only support. That's what seems to go viral.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Well, sex sells and it always will. It was probably the first thing that was ever sold with some pussy. I think it was gold and then pussy. Brick and mortar. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, I just, again, just being a consumer, consumer first of music and culture and hip hop, I just would like to see a little more artistic, cleverness, still be sexy. I love women.
Starting point is 01:06:20 That's, you know, never, I ain't wake up one day and never not love women. I love women. Love women. Love all of that. But, you know, when it comes to music and things like that, I just wanted to just be a little more clever, a little more artistic, a little more skill set. That's all I'm saying. Like, still be sexy.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Get your shit off, talk your shit. But I just want to just a little more, just give me this a little. Yeah, be a little more clever with the pin. That's all I'm saying. But I love it though. Shout out to Meg. Great video. This episode is sponsored by Roe.
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Starting point is 01:12:19 it's like, what? Today now, obviously, it's like 100%. They believe everything. But at first, it was just like, you got to go get a real job. There's an economic component to community striving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. And what I mean by fell is they don't have money to pay for food. They cannot feed their kids.
Starting point is 01:12:39 They do not have homes. Communities don't work unless there's money flowing through them. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So you show, Kiki Palmer trailer for her new TV show, Southern Fry Rice. Shout out to Kiki Palmer. We support Kiki. over here. I think she's dope. She's a legend. Now, I watched the trailer with you. And you were telling me that people online, the trailer came out, people online killing Kiki Palm about this trailer. Why are people
Starting point is 01:13:16 killing Kiki Palmer about this trailer? So for the people who haven't seen, Southern Frye Rice is a show about a Asian girl who was raised in black culture. I think her family or adopted family is black or whatever. And she goes to HBCU. And it's about her experience at an HBCU. Now, the backlash that Kiki was receiving that I saw. was out of all the perspectives that you can write from and the, the, the, the, you're black and you have the opportunity to tell stories instead of telling the story of a black woman or a black man that isn't, you know, like we love when we get opportunities to tell stories that aren't rooted in our trauma, rooted in slavery, rooted in Tyler Perry S. storylines.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Trauma. Yes. You get this, this opportunity to tell a story. And instead of telling a black person's story, you tell the story of Asian American in a black person's space and how it affects her and what trouble she could go through in a black person's space. And they're saying that it's tone deaf. Why? What do you think about that? I can, I don't exactly agree. I can understand where they're coming from, but I like different stories, right? So this isn't a story that I've heard before. I wouldn't mind hearing it. But I also do understand the critique of Kiki
Starting point is 01:14:28 as a black woman. You know we don't get many opportunities in these spaces to be an executive producer, why wouldn't you executive produce a project that told our stories? Why are you telling it for other? Because other races are always, the Asians are always going to hold the Asians down. The whites are always going to hold the whites down. They're always going to give them opportunities. When we get a black person in a bigger space, it would be nice for one of us to give opportunities to one of us to tell our story. I kind of understand where people are coming from. I don't. Because Keen has done that. She just had a movie in theaters with Siza that that I think she executive producer wrote or something like that. I think she was on there for that.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Well, Issa Ray did. I think Kiki might have just acted. Shout out to Issa. Shout out to Kiki for, you know, a good performance. Shout out to Sizzle for her performance as well. But I think that, and y'all kill me for this. I don't know why. I just think that it's just a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:15:17 A lot of our disagreements, I feel like it's just the age difference. But like you said, Kiki Palmer has this role now. Why not give us because we always claim we get the same shit over and over, the same stories over and over. Okay. So here comes Kiki. Kiki Palmer giving us something different. It's still HBCU, so we're still in there.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Our culture is still the focus of the film, but it's just from the lens of somebody that's not, that doesn't look like us. Now, if you're adopted, if you're an Asian and you're adopted and a black family adoption, yes, I'm Asian. Like my birth mother and my father may have been Asian. They couldn't take care of me for whatever reason. He gave me for adoption. Black family adopts me, raises me. This is the culture that I know. Josh, double check that that's the storyline, by the way.
Starting point is 01:16:03 But keep talking more. This is the culture that I know. This is the culture that I was raised in. As a black man growing up in New York City, I say it all the time. I had so many different friends from different cultures that lived in my building, whether it was Indian, whether it was Cambodian, whether it was Albanian, whether it was Dominican, Puerto Rican, Italian, Irish. Like, I grew up in a neighborhood that culture was, you know, and we didn't even remember. really look at it like that until I go to your house for the first time.
Starting point is 01:16:36 And I see the way, you know, your house is decorated and like the type of food your mom makes. Then it's like, oh shit, like I forgot you was a whole different, you know, like your house is different from my house. But when we're outside in the park doing dumb shit or we playing sports together or, you know, we're going to see some girls and we riding the train to go down to the mall, whatever, but the culture is not a conversation. This is my man from my block. This isn't, oh, this is my, you know, Cambodian homeboy.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Like, it wasn't that. This is, that's John. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't care about your culture. I respect you. But it wasn't a conversation. So now you have this, again, I don't know with this Kiki Palm with things, but you have an Asian American going to an HBCU.
Starting point is 01:17:24 What people are upset because they feel like she's telling the story of an Asian American versus telling a black American story going to age. We've seen that story. How many times? But, okay. So, so this is the thing. Yes, we've seen some of that story. A lot of it.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I don't want to say a lot of it. Stomp the yard. You want me to go with the Spikely School Days, classic one. How many more can we go down? I mean, there's so many stories of, shit, boys in the hood, they went to Spellman and Morehouse.
Starting point is 01:17:55 So you have these stories of black kids from the hood going to these 8th. We've seen that. But in all of those movies that you named, what else is in there? Trauma. There's trauma in every single one of those movies. Yeah, but I mean, Drumline ain't no trauma. Well, he didn't know his dad.
Starting point is 01:18:09 He met his dad. He sold him tokens and his dad didn't come to his graduation. That could be traumatic, right? My dad didn't support me. But the story of Drumline isn't a traumatic story. It's a fun kid goes to school. He doesn't really know how to play me. He lied to get in, but he's so, you know, he plays off an ear.
Starting point is 01:18:25 One of the reasons it's a classic. But there aren't a lot of classic stories. about black people's school that doesn't have some big trauma, which is one of the reasons why forever on Netflix, did you ever watch forever? I think we told you about it. It was the two high school kids that were falling in love and things like that. That's why it blew up so big because it was such a beautiful black story and there was no trauma. So I understand what you're saying. I'm not mad at this storyline, right? I think the people that are complaining, I think it's just like, who the fuck cares how an Asian American feels in our spaces. But I can understand why
Starting point is 01:18:59 somebody might want to tell that story. I don't think it's worth killing Kiki over. She didn't even write it. She's an executive producer. Listen, baby D. You, something that I learned, there are people that's going to wake up
Starting point is 01:19:09 and rush to the internet to hate on everything. And to be upset and bothered by everything. That's just like, so when you tell me, oh, they're online killing Kiki for this. And I look at the trail and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:19:21 why are they killing it for this? I hate the title, though. I'm not going to lie. Southern Fried Rice is so corny. Okay. That shit is whack. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 01:19:28 We can see how that. that's a little like, but now we gotta wait to see the show to see if it's like, okay, we get how we tied that in. Like, but we can't go off a trailer and then go online to start stomping Kiki out. Yeah. It's just like I don't complain about anything. And the thing is I don't have, again, I don't have a victim mentality. I don't approach things with the mentality of being upset or that hurt me, that bothered me.
Starting point is 01:19:54 I'm always willing to listen, look at it, learn like, okay, see what, see what the, you know, give me the whole thing. Let me see what this is before I go online. I'm like, Yo, Kiki, you tripping. Why would you make this TV show about some Asian American instead of telling one of our beautiful black sister story? Like, I'm just not doing that, man. Like, people just got to fucking relax. Like, I get it. You know, we don't get noticed in a lot of spaces. But at the same time, I can go on Netflix and pull up a thousand movies and shows that highlight black kids going to school. What's the other Nick Cannon one? It was the other Nick Cannon
Starting point is 01:20:30 with Christina Millian Beautiful Love don't cost a thing Beautiful I yeah I feel like she was Leguel with Lorenz Tade and Jada Pink Beautiful stories She was catching
Starting point is 01:20:40 She was catching a lot of I feel like now I understand When people critique people like Kenya Barris and Shonda Rimes For their like for example They catch a lot of slack Keni Barris is the producer
Starting point is 01:20:52 of Blackish the is show Legend And you know Shonda Rimes Grays Anatomy scandal things like that. They and Mindy Colleen gets this too. The interracial relationships they catch a lot of slack for. There's constant interracial relationships in their shows. Okay now if you're a producer that does that. Okay. Now if you're a producer that does that and it's like we can look at your
Starting point is 01:21:17 filmography and point that out, then it's like your fan, why are you always got an interracial couple in you? Like why is the focus always? Yeah. Like why is that always the focus? But somebody like me go online and say yo why y'all got a gay couple on every show now? Oh my gosh you see?
Starting point is 01:21:33 You see the reaction? You see the reaction? That's what I'm saying though so why so why can't people say that and then I say that as well I hear I am watching a gangster mom movie they're going out
Starting point is 01:21:45 and then niggins start kissing where is that at why y'all throw that in it which show is that? Josh at what show he won't see himself I'm just saying why y'all throw that? Why do y'all, why do they throw that in there, though?
Starting point is 01:22:00 I feel like they've, I feel like that's been happening. I was, so when, when, even like male frontal nudity now. Well, that's HBO Max. Everybody naked. I'm like, yo, why? I'm watching the movie. Doe storyline. Like, okay, this is cool. Homie turn around. Peace out. I'm like, we didn't need that to feel like the scene was real. But hold on because you weren't, they've been doing that to women for years and you never complain. People got tired. I mean, yes. Yes. Yes. But people got tired of women
Starting point is 01:22:28 Women being the only one objectified in shows Now we objectified everybody If it's gonna be HBO If this pussy on the screen It's dick on there too I can't complain about that Yeah but it's just be
Starting point is 01:22:41 I don't know man I'm so tired of seeing soft dick though At least like stroke it before you put it on camera Just soft meat on my TV And you gotta be a different type of actor The show soft meat And know it's going out to the theaters You know how crazy it is
Starting point is 01:22:53 I show my meat soft and like Netflix November 3rd Like, yo, hold up, hold up. It's wild nigger subscribing Netflix. Don't put me, yo, that didn't make, that wasn't supposed to make it on the edit. That's supposed to make it off the edit floor. Edit that out.
Starting point is 01:23:10 My shit is mad smirmy, and y'all talking about November 17th. That's a week before Thanksgiving, everybody on Netflix. Nah, don't put me on Netflix. Thanksgiving was soft meat. Don't do that. Don't do me like that.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Listen. You want to be an actor? You want to get into it. Yeah, but they're killing Kiki for the wrong things, man shout out the Kiki Palmer man I'm gonna watch it just because they're killing her and I can't wait to support it I'm gonna get everybody mad on the time I fuck yeah that's you know I can't wait has anybody ever told you you are contrarian yeah I think you go against the grain anything people like you automatically hate because I like what a lot of people like to but I'm just but that's just always been me though baby D like I just I look at things differently like people be upset about that and I'm just like why are y'all upset about this but I feel like the more people push against you the harder you defend I think something when I feel like I'm not when I feel like I'm not right. Not just to be different. Okay. If I feel like I'm right, oh yeah, you're not going to move me off my square if I feel like I'm right. Oh, I know. My literal job description is to move you off your square when you feel
Starting point is 01:24:07 like you're right. That ain't going to happen. I feel like you're pushing a fire hydrant right. When you like I ain't moving. I ain't moving, baby, D. I ain't budging. Fuck that. Oh my God. Well, listen, NBA season has started. Yes, sir. And you know that we have a big sports audience. And I want to understand sports more. Do you? I do. Is your boyfriend watch sports? He does. What's his team? I actually can't. You don't know nothing about this, nigga.
Starting point is 01:24:31 That's not true. That's not true. I don't think he's in. I think his favorite team is as, so he kind of like gave up on him. So I don't think he's ever been like proud enough to tell me. Oh, he's one of those. Yeah, I think, yeah. He ruled in silence.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I think he just, he likes sports. So he watches all the teams. So I actually don't know who his favorite team is. Okay. But I'm seeing on the notes, Josh has Wimby and I'm assuming he means Wimbianna. Victor Wynbanyama. Winbanyama. Now is he from Africa?
Starting point is 01:24:57 He's from Paris. He's from Paris. Okay. It says Wimby is an alien. Yes. And I put on their mall, please explain this to me like I'm five. Okay. So you know the aliens exist, right?
Starting point is 01:25:06 Okay. One of them now playing San Antonio. Okay. Okay. Spurs. San Antonio Spurs. Okay. He's seven foot six.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Wow. He speaks French. Oh, this is a sick type of alien that got running around. The nigger can do everything, baby. I've never seen anybody. Again, y'all know how I feel. Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player ever. Limby second?
Starting point is 01:25:25 No, he's not second yet. But his skill set at his size, you know, just in layman's terms, baby, we've never seen nothing like this. So, like, so he can play like five and one? He can play every position on the floor. Okay. Yes. He can, he can, last night I saw him block three shots, get the rebound, take one dribble over half court, and shoot a three. I don't I've we're talking about seven foot six
Starting point is 01:25:58 for somebody to be seven foot six moving the way he's moving and doing the things we've never seen this type of athleticism this type of skill now they have been big men that have skills but wimby the one the one skills that I think a lot of people don't talk about is his his balance he's not as you know a lot of big men are usually like kind of like doofy yeah Like the New York skyscrapers, the taller they build them, they sway in the wind. Yeah, but his balance, his feel for the game, he's just fun to watch because you know that we've never seen nothing like this, so you have to appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:26:38 That one clip I saw of him blocking three shots and then pushing the break and shooting the three, he looked like Bill Russell on one end and Kevin Durant on the other. I don't know if I've ever felt like that looking at any player. Like, to me, you know, Shaquille O'Neal, when he came in seven feet, whatever, you know, he was very, a lot of people don't remember how athletic shack was in Orlando. Very athletic, the rebound the ball, push to break, go coast to coast. With the Lakers, it became more of a post-up, just use your power and kind of just bully people. But to be seven foot six in doing what when Miami is doing, we've never seen nothing like this. So this is a name that you're going to hear hopefully for years. I tweeted, if his body holds up for 10 years,
Starting point is 01:27:25 because with guys, seven of six, they usually... Knee start. A knee injury, a foot injury changes their whole trajectory. So if his body, you know, hopefully his body holds up 10 years, I think that he's a top five player all time. Yeah, so this is the play. Look at him. One block, right?
Starting point is 01:27:45 Block again. Right? Then he gets to his, they get the rebound. They give it right to him. Count the dribbles. One, two, three jump shot. So three dribbles from one end, cross half court to a three. And you seven foot six, we've never, I've never seen nothing like this.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And again, we've seen big Kevin Durand is probably seven feet, six 11. We've seen that skill set, you know, being tall and being able to shoot and rebound. We've never seen seven, six doing that. How old is he? He looks young. 21? Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:20 He should be. He's the future. He's the future in the NBA. I think with him and Luca, the NBA is, you know, they're good. But then again, these are, these are guys that are not American players. So do you think he could take the spurs all the way? Oh, absolutely. He's about, they get another piece around him. They're going to, they're going to make some noise in the Western Conference for sure. Well, just him, just this team right now, if he stays healthy, it's going to be hard to beat them. How have the Knicks been doing? Have they played yet? The Knicks look good. The Knicks are good. I think they two and oh. Oh, two and one. To who, who they lose to? Okay. They lost to Miami. Who does Miami even have?
Starting point is 01:28:59 Norm Polly and Wiggins. They lost to Andrew Wiggins and Bam out of bio. Oh, my God. The Knicks. See, that's what piss me off for the Knicks. They lose the games. They should win. But the Knicks look good, though.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I think they're going to have another good run. Again, all of this is if everybody stays healthy. Is Halliburton still out? Halliburton's out for the year. Yeah. I'm sorry. Prayers and condolences. I hope he healed up well.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Prayers and condolences. After the fist pump, that's not how that's supposed to go, baby, D. Yo, they tore me up because remember when he was playing, I was like wishing bad at him and then he tore his ace. You know how you fuck your boyfriend head up? How? Show up with a victim one, but y'all, I'm a jersey dress on.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Now I just got to get the oversized jersey like it belonged to somebody else. To Victor? You want to put on a shirt? Victor went Mayama Santa Telling the Spurs wedding dress That's gonna be long That shit will be long
Starting point is 01:29:57 As a motherfucker on you baby D. Put that shit on and just be in the kitchen quickly with that shit No, no I told, did I ever tell you the time?
Starting point is 01:30:02 I told you my cousin was playing for the Giants and I had his practice jersey on and that shit That's a fight That shit was like I'm my nigga Am I pussy?
Starting point is 01:30:10 Yeah like that's a fight Like I don't care who your cousin Take that off I got a jersey I played a DWMCA Go put my shit on Like take this nigga jersey off
Starting point is 01:30:21 Okay well I will stay updated maybe we can go catch a game yeah we catch some nick again oh maybe we can do that for for our for our patreon vlog episode go to a game well not an actual game we go to like a bar and watch a game you get wine watch a basketball with wine is fire you don't know no nigger like it see stop playing with me yes sometimes niggas be like you ain't never met a nigger like me and i'm like thank god like i don't like i don't that ain't the case with me you know you should be honored to be like yo me and mom went to watch this nigga ordered a whole bottle cabinet we was chilling steak i had a steak i had a steak i had a steak i
Starting point is 01:30:52 Oh, you know red wine or steak go to you. Niggas don't even got your palate together. That's the problem now. First of all, I was drinking red wine and steak, baby, when I was 21. That's, I don't even eat red meat like that. I'm a heal of my body. That don't count. Outback.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Like, I was at Peter Lugar. Don't, you got me fucked up. You got me fucked up, sweetie. That's what I want you to do. Get such shit off. You got me fucked up. You got me fucked up. You got me fucked now.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Your baby, then Sylvia Brown is a fraud. Remember we talked about her last week? I do. laughed at her. All the videos are coming out now. She said somebody was dead. She said somebody's son was dead. The mother ended up dying us or committing suicide, something like that. Come to find out the son wasn't dead. Sylvia Brown is who used to do. What show was that? She was a medium. She was on a bunch of talks about her back in the day. Montel Williams. And you know, people used to ask her like,
Starting point is 01:31:44 yo, my loved ones. We haven't seen him. He's dead. He drowned. Yeah, we did talk about that. Come to find out fraud. Come to find out. Y'all didn't think that. No, I mean, I knew that. That's why I was laughing at those clips because I'm like, how somebody just stand up and tell you some shit like that and you just get all heartbroken? You don't know this lady? Yeah, he's dead.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Yes, he's dead. Oh, my God. Thank you. What? No evidence, nothing that my loved one is dead. You just say it and I just break down. Like, I could have said that to you in the parking lot. Now, I would have got arrested for that.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Mm-hmm. Here comes Sylvia Brown. She's a medium on the stage and her word is go. Kind of find out Sylvia Brown was a fraud. I just thought it was hilarious that now. of these videos are going viral of her, like, being wrong. And people weren't dead that she said was dead. That's, is she still, is she a lot?
Starting point is 01:32:29 Is she alive? No, she passed away some years ago. Okay. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. We do. Sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, Text, and Dada for $25 a month. What's good, Rory?
Starting point is 01:32:46 What's good, Mom? What's going on, Baby D? Roy here. I fuck with the pod. Thank you. You doing what y'all doing. Quick question. This is for Baby D.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Okay. 34 years old, single. I just moved out here to Syracuse, maybe like five months ago, got a job with the university, working in their athletic department, and was just wondering, you know, as a single man, if you knew any spots of where I could go, where women would be at, or where I can meet some beautiful women. I joined the Syracuse Run Club out here.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Oh, shout out to the Run Club. I met some great people, but I feel like that's a weird place to kind of shoot my shot. But yeah, just wanted to see if you had any suggestions. I don't know how in tune you are still with Syracuse, but I thought I'll at least try next. All right, thanks. Well, thank you for calling and shout out to Syracuse. Well, first of all, DM me, because I think I got a friend for you.
Starting point is 01:33:43 How good is the job? Oh, you moved out for the job. It's a good job. All right. I got a friend for you. Light skin, cute, big tities. She don't got fat ass, but she got big tities in a pretty ass face. Long curly hair.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, that average is out. Long curly hair. That's like I have been 20 and 10 right there. And school to be a nurse on her own house. So DM me, because I got a friend for you. But if you are looking for other women, you would have to go downtown Syracuse and scout around. Now, if you want to hoodb bitches at, again, DME, I'll direct you there. But if you just want regular women, you're going to have to go downtown and go to like brunches.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And follow somebody named Anthony Dickens on Facebook because he throws an R&B night. And that's also where you would go to fire women. Arm B night is a good night to find out. She's singing too hard. She's singing a little too hard when that married. Oh, yeah, she's heart-roving. She's overly going. I could fix it.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Like, Stefan Toe Cardi, let me fix you. Let me heal you. He got that old. He got that all. Stefan Dix got that off. Amen. Oh, my God. Amen.
Starting point is 01:34:45 You know, as I get older and I talk to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Reminis. I talk to more men and I see the things that y'all see that we don't notice that y'all are seeing. Like, I remember when my. my boyfriend. I was like, what even made you that confident to like, because he just
Starting point is 01:34:59 applied so much pressure. He said, on our FaceTime call you was moving and you was packing up your house by yourself in and all your IG pictures you had just turned your hair red. I knew you was heartbroken. I was just moving in like, I knew it was a perfect. I had a small window. I knew you was fucked up. He was waiting for any nigga that looked like he had his shit together. Yeah, all right. Okay. Let's let's let's go down. He got his shit together. He opened the car door for me, girl. It'd be crazy to shit that child like. Don't do that. I just opened the car door. That's the expectation though. Yeah, but that's, but still, like you.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Now, you sent a driver, he sent the driver, and the driver opened the car door and waited outside the restaurant in case I wanted to leave the date. You do that and you still, I still don't get no pussy. It's like, there ain't no nigga ever since you know. It's worth the wait. Yeah, sometimes. Ma, don't. Let's just be real.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Ma. You waited. What I waited for? You've waited for sex before. Oh, yes, I have. Yeah. And it was not where, blah, blah, blah. Was it worth it all every time?
Starting point is 01:35:54 No, no. You know it's crazy. The first time it felt like it was worth to wait. And then the second time, that shit wasn't. Wait, explain it though. What you mean the first time? It's like when you were starving lying, you know what I'm saying? And somebody give you a berry.
Starting point is 01:36:06 It's like damn, this berry tastes like gazelle. But then when you go to eat the berry again, this shit. This berry tastes like gazelle is fucking hilarious. This berry tastes like gazelle. This berry tastes like fucking gazelle. When you been starving. When you been starving? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:23 And then you go to eat that bear again. Now this shit just berry. Yeah, this shit just buries. This shit just kicks in berries. Get out of here with this shit. I need gazelle. Yeah. I thought you was a style.
Starting point is 01:36:33 You tricked me. Mm-hmm. Yeah, sometimes it don't be worth the weight, though, but, you know. But, you know. I'm glad you have a girl from him, though. Hopefully you can make the connection now. But if you do, we got to get them on the Zoom. If he got to be fine, though, because she, she, you know me.
Starting point is 01:36:47 First thing I look at is, are you a gentleman and do you have money? And then I'll look at your looks. She look at looks first. Why she's single? See? She listens to this podcast too Don't do that. No, I'm not shit, no what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:37:00 She's just looking at looks I try to put her on with you Man, I try to put her on with a baller A trick A trick, he was overly spending And he was ugly as ugly as fuck But like she I respect her
Starting point is 01:37:13 That's gangster Like if you got a nigga She says she can't fake it Gangster Because if you got a nigga that's tricking And you still like Man watch out Like that means she icy
Starting point is 01:37:23 She cold She's like, nigga, you ugly. I don't care how much money you spend it. You're trash. I like that. Because it used to be about that. I don't care much money. That nigga is ugly.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Nadi since we running around with these dusties, I'm like, will you find this dustball? Oh, he got money. Oh, okay. I understand it. I get it. But I like the fact that there's still women out there. But he's sweet too, though.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Like, you're not going to find a perfect nigga. No. I think my nigga is perfect. But otherwise, you're not going to find a perfect. Don't say, we're going to time stamp this. I'm not wishing bad on. I'm happy that you happy baby D Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:37:57 But if, listen, if I allow Wilson to have, inshallah, if you not together a year from now, I'm running this clip back. Because you're going to be in here tearing that nigga up a year. No, you know how I get down.
Starting point is 01:38:09 I bash niggas. I come on my platform. That's what I'm saying. So I'm happy that you happy. It looks good on you. But I'm just saying next year in November. When I say perfect,
Starting point is 01:38:21 I don't mean literally perfect. But what I mean is, okay, you got money, you fine. And you're a gentleman. It's very hard to find. That's like the Holy Trinity right. Holy Trinity.
Starting point is 01:38:30 You know what I'm saying? He ain't perfect by no means. Yeah, nobody's perfect. Close enough. But he's perfect to me. Exactly. So that's why I be telling her, I'm like, you're not going to find everything in one that's very hard.
Starting point is 01:38:40 It can happen, but it's hard. 29? She got time. She right there. She should be turning that corner of settling down trying to like get serious with somebody. But 29, she can still playouts out a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:54 She can still afford to do that. Yeah. This nigga, well. Like, I don't know. I'm 31. I'm looking. I'm like, I can't settle for ugly though because my family don't have no ugly people in it. We go out of our way not to have ugly people.
Starting point is 01:39:07 That's a sick go out of the way. Like, we go out of our way not to have ugly people. I can't be the first one to bring a little gremlin into the family. I can't do that. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I don't want that as my part of the family legacy. I'm already the one that didn't get like the traditional job.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Like I'm not a lawyer or a nurse or a doctor or a professional fucking football player like the rest of them like I'm a podcaster so I already don't bring that much to the table I can bring a little gremlin to the family just all I got next to my the emojis next to my name is like the little scary mask and a mic I can we can do that yeah yeah because if you got an ugly baby you got to kill it okay all right well thank you guys so much for tuning in and that's the only voicemail we got that's the only voice smell we're doing really yeah I'm kind of kind of scared. All right, let's play it. Fuck you. Come on. Let's play it. Hey, I'm Thomas from Chicago. Responding to the last message
Starting point is 01:40:02 we got sent about me being in love of my best friend who lives in Texas. Oh! Took an account, like, what Damaris said and what Mom said as well, like, you know, going after and going after to be with my wife and DeMaris also saying to just, you know, that was just
Starting point is 01:40:19 like a one-time thing. I mean, I don't know. I'm planning to see her again in December and essentially I'm guessing that when I see her again, I'll get like a full gauge of like how she really feels about me. I do feel like she really does care about me. I don't think that she does care for me in the same way that I care for her because I really do love her. And, you know, she says she loves me too.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Like I made her feel things. Like she, the way she describes how she feels about me, it sounds like she's saying that she is in love with me, but she's just not saying that I'm in love with you specifically. Again, because of circumstance and everything that we're both encountering of just like, you know, being far away and, like, trying to figure out our lives and stuff. You know, and it kind of makes me beg to question, like, wonder, like, you know, maybe she doesn't feel the same way. But, you know, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Like, when I get down there, we'll, like, basically do, like, a trial run of, like, a relationship or something. Like, I'll be down there for four days or something for Christmas. And, you know, we'll just see how everything goes. Again, not really sure how she feels yet. But, I mean, I guess I have doubts just because of where we're at. But I don't know. I'm trying to keep hope alive with everything.
Starting point is 01:41:24 anything. That nigga said I'm trying to keep hope alive. He called a Jesse Jackson. You going down four days before Christmas, nigga, that gift better gift. Nah, that gift better gift. He don't even know if she liked him like that,
Starting point is 01:41:40 but he didn't have a gift? She won't if he don't bring her gift. Nah, see, I don't like that. Well, first of all, it's her best friend. If I'm spending four days, if I'm going to see my best friend four days, he's got a gift of it for sure.
Starting point is 01:41:50 He's giving me a gift. But it's you saying that gift better gift is like, why? She don't even know if she's into him like that. So why would you give somebody something when it's like, you know how you feel about her, but you don't know if she feels the way you feel about her towards you? It's like you can't go heavy gift.
Starting point is 01:42:08 What would you get to gift your way into a relationship? What would your gift suggestion be? It's an offering. What would your gift suggest to be? Well, me, like if it's a woman that I, you want and y'all already best. Well, I would be paying attention to conversation and things that she's saying she's kind of been.
Starting point is 01:42:23 iron looking at Rick Owens' boots See him What she need You know shit like that I don't know if she need Rick Owens boots You need a new fridge
Starting point is 01:42:31 This motherfucker Every time I go on there For a motherfucking drink Light off No the handle was in my hand When I close that Like fuck them Rick Owens boots I'm listen
Starting point is 01:42:45 Answer the fucking The man is coming With the fridge Tomorrow Yeah Shit like that Rick Owens boots Costs cost a new fridge
Starting point is 01:42:52 For sure Yeah I'm going to get you a fridge, baby. I ain't you'll get you no Rick Owens' boots. Get you a new fridge. Let's start there. But yeah, pay attention to, you know, a woman that you're courting and that you like. Pay attention to conversation, things that she may be talking about looking at.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Like, that's how you get the perfect get. Because that's the sentiment you pay, that's showing how you pay attention. You remember, like, okay, cool, yeah, I'm going to help you. Like, this is something that is going to last. You know what I'm saying? New fridge? She's probably going to outlive you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Yeah, so shit like that. That's what I would do. But like... Well, we're wishing luck to this man. Please keep us update. He left two more voicemails, but we'll get into those... Maybe we'll do that on Patreon or something. No, Patreon, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Yeah. We can do that? Because we, because I... But do we want to say... Okay, so we'll Zoom Zoom room before he goes home for the holiday? Okay. And then Zoom Zoom Zoom room after the holiday to just check in on him and see how things played out.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Okay. That's cool. All right, baby Dee. This has been real good talking to you. We're doing this two more times this week. Yeah. Our Patreon, we don't go out of date. Finally.
Starting point is 01:44:04 I'm taking you to the movies, baby. Finally. Take you to the fucking movies. Okay. All right, we'll be back in a couple days. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga.
Starting point is 01:44:11 That's baby Dee. Period. A win is a win. A win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,
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