New Rory & MAL - Episode 418 | Class Act
Episode Date: October 28, 2025Rory is off at sea so we got Demaris taking over co-hosting duties. After a quick weekend recap, Mal gives his take on the Cash Money-No Limit Verzuz. Megan Thee Stallion released a new pu$$y poppin a...nthem which has Demaris conflicted. A stat that caught Mal’s eye has him thinking Hip-Hop really might be dying. Mal and Demaris got Keke Palmer’s back after backlash from the “Southern Fried Rice” trailer. Plus, Baby D has more questions about the NBA, and we get an update from a caller who is trying to keep a long distance relationship going #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5, 4, 3, 2, 1, who do we appreciate?
Or no, that's 10. That's 1.
How do that?
5, 6, 7.
8?
Yeah.
Niggas go to Atlanta, boy, I'm telling you,
telling you the education down there,
it kind of bleeds into you, don't it?
That shit just seeps into you, don't it?
Yo, I was really sitting there like, damn, what the fuck is the number?
I was over there struggling.
What's the number that Ryan would appreciate?
Yo, damn.
Yo, what's up?
Baby D fresh off Atlanta?
What?
Like, don't stop.
Why are we coming in on my shit?
Why we're not coming in on your shit?
No, because I'm just saying, like, you just got it in fresh out of the airport.
smelling like flights and hotels i know that phrase i'm not i ain't not no hotels oh my bad my bad
i forgot what's happening my bad baby d i forgot how you feeling though i'm feeling good i went out there to
go to one music fest yeah you did tell us that yeah i went out who phone ringing
yours your phone and who's going to answer it answer the phone man answer the who is that hello who is that
Who is that?
Mawks
Give me the phone
Yo
Now I'll call you later
Move man
Now don't do that
Yo why you're hanging up
That's crazy
Because you was about to go
You're like yo who phone ringing
Your phone ringing
So now that you answer
Let me say hello
Fuck no
Yeah
Niggas try to make sure
You said you were supposed to be
You got to chill
You really got a chill
How was it though
I was Atlanta
So one music festival
was cool, but I over did it. I overdid it, bro. I, I, I, I,
how you overdo it at an R&B festival?
Well, first of all, it was wrapped there, too.
Was it? Yeah, it wasn't just R&B. I saw Warren G perform. I ain't seen Warren G.
Ever. Shout out to Warren G. Yeah. So, um, Future was the headliner. Like, it was hip-hop and
R-Oh, okay. You was outside with the shit. Yeah, they had Dungeon Family performing.
Okay. I didn't make it to none of them, no, because after Kaylani, which was at 7 o'clock. Oh, okay.
I see what you go.
I saw you wanted to see.
So I went to the Henna, I was in the VIP.
I went to the Hennessy little activation that they had.
Is that where?
Where you were that?
The Hennessy activation.
No, where you was that?
Where was the Hennessy?
It was in VIP.
Okay, get your shit on.
Okay.
So I went into the Hennessy activation and they were serving like Hennessy strawberry
lemonade and Hennessy espresso martinis.
And they were like in big, like big ass cups.
And I'm just like, oh, just sipping, sip and sip it.
I have forgot I was off the cut water earlier.
What's cup water?
So cut water is like a cocktail in a can.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So it was like 11% alcohol.
So it's not just like, you know, the little 5%.
Yeah, not above you.
Yeah, no.
So that mixed with the three Hennessy cocktails, I blacked out.
I do not remember how I got home.
I don't remember getting in the Uber.
I don't remember getting home, taking my clothes off, getting a bit, nothing.
I just remember Kalani and then waking up in a bed at 5 o'clock in the morning.
Wow.
So you don't know how one music festival went?
Nope.
No, cool.
And I caught myself vlogging.
I have little clips where I call myself vlogging.
Like I was like,
Oh, I can't, can I see those?
I was recording the sky.
I swear to God and I was like, yeah.
You was laid out, you passed out on your back.
Like what you was doing?
Bro, but it was a good time to festival.
It was in Piedmont Park in Atlanta, which is huge.
It was a huge, huge venue.
And they had a lot of, a lot of people.
Apparently, Ray J, Pleasure P, Bobby Valentino and Sammy
have a group called RSVP.
Yeah, remember they did they, um, when they, was that,
that wasn't a versus.
Did they do a versus?
Together?
Even if they were on stage and remember, you don't remember that?
You don't, you don't remember at the, I think it was at the Noville Theater.
Novel Theater in L.A.
Oh, okay.
You don't remember when Ray J. was on, they was all on stage?
No, I don't remember.
But when I knew that they were all performing together, but RSVP sent me.
Yeah, that's when they said the name of the group, RSVP.
We spoke about that.
I think we did speak about that.
When they were performing, I came to realize why our R&B niggas so short and stocky.
They all short.
Like them niggas together all.
put together don't hit seven feet like now I'm dead ass they were all standing
I'm like all of you niggas are mad sure they I mean they did a good job no ray J Mike
wasn't on but I mean that's whatever right to be expected he's like rage is a legend
though he is rage is a legend yeah that mic sounded just like the track he did not I don't
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Rory is not here today, baby D.
Doesn't it feel like we...
There's no oppression in the room, right?
No oppressors.
No oppressors.
Rory is on the Rock the Bell's cruise.
He's listening to the locks as he crosses the Mediterranean Sea right now.
I mean, I don't know where they're at.
But, yes, hopefully he's having a good time.
Nothing but underarm a long-sleeved dry fit in his suitcase.
So he had to carry on.
And bottles of wine.
You know you can bring your own wine in the cruise.
Can you?
You could pay to bring you.
Bring bottles of wine.
Wait, what?
Mm-hmm.
You can bring alcohol on a cruise?
You can bring bottles of wine, yeah.
Wait, why you keep saying it's just wine?
Yeah, I think so.
I don't think you could bring liquor.
I mean, that's all I think is.
Like, you can bring like a bottle of wine.
Yeah.
One or you can bring multiple bottles of wine?
I'm not sure.
It depends on a cruise line.
Wow.
Some people sneak them on, like sneak things on.
Yeah.
I never knew that.
You can bring some alcohol on a cruise, but it depends on the cruise line and the type of
alcohol.
Most lines allow you to bring one or two bottles of wine.
or champagne per person in your carry-on luggage.
Okay, so yeah, you're going with somebody on a cruise.
You bring a bottle, I bring a bottle.
We good?
Okay, I didn't know that.
All right, so he's definitely having a good time.
Oh, you're having a ball.
Yeah, he's having a blast.
But today, it's the niggas.
It's just us.
It ain't been us in a while.
It ain't never been us.
This is the first time it's been just, I mean, we did half of a Patreon.
We did a full Patreon together.
We did?
At our very first studio.
Baby, I don't remember that.
You know, I don't, you know, my,
That's when I told you I was going to name my son, Nassir Carter.
I remember now.
I will never forget when you told me that.
I'm not going to do it no more because y'all calls it all times of ghetto bitches.
But how do you feel?
Do you still stand firm on that?
I think that that's a nice name.
I think I'm setting him up for like to be, you know, powerful.
What else?
Because if we're going to talk about the name, like let's talk about it.
Because my mom and pop set me up.
I had to find a way.
My name Muslim.
That's why you podcast.
Yeah, exactly.
Like a sold drugs, podcast.
Or crack rock.
Which one you want me to do?
Podcasts or crack rock.
Let's do podcast.
What you did this weekend?
You worry about with me and Rory.
What you did?
This weekend, my cousin had a baby shower.
Aw.
It was the funniest thing.
So I pulled up to the venue.
So where it was, I used to hang out there because it used to be like a spot.
Like it was a strip club on that block that we used to go to and shit.
So I get there.
I'm like, I ain't been on this side of town in a minute.
So we get there.
So my boy is dropping me off.
and we drop past the spot
and it's a dude outside
he got a security shirt on
he got a scully and a shikshny on
so I'm like hold up
so I'm looking at the address
he's standing right in front of the number
on the door where I'm supposed to go
so I'm like I'm like over a circle around one one
one time because now I'm texting like
yo what's the address again
because I ain't never seen security at a baby shop
outside of a baby shop usually your cousins
there somebody got it on them just in case
so we get back and I'm like
yo, this is the spot.
So I'm like, all right, to my boy, so he's laughing.
So I walked in.
I was expecting, homie, to ask for ID.
Because I walked up, I'm like, yo, what's up?
He was like, it was good.
But he acted like he wasn't opening the door.
So I'm like, he's all, you're going in?
I'm like, you think I'm walking up and saying hello to you?
Like, yeah, I'm going into baby shower.
He let me in and whatever.
So when I get in, I hadn't met my cousin's boyfriend yet.
I never met him.
So when I get in, I don't see nobody I recognize.
So now I'm really feeling like I'm in the wrong spot.
So then I look, look, and then I saw my sister, my pops, my sister, my mom's.
They was like towards the back.
So I'm like, okay, cool.
But it was cool.
It was a cool.
But why was security there?
You still have that ex-exper.
But think about it, though.
Shit goes down at baby showers.
Yo, that being your explanation?
Mr. Black, Cass today, we can talk.
The white man ain't here.
We can kick it.
You don't see why there would be a need for security at the baby shower.
I mean, I get it.
You move on.
Yeah.
Homey mad.
Don't think that.
No, it's security at my baby shower.
He found out.
you find out today is your shower.
He's going to know where it's at.
Everybody posting, you know how this error is.
Everybody could find anybody.
Yeah, so now the ex pull up and he decided that he mad.
And now he want to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's, so the sightse the outside explains everything now.
Now I understood because I thought about it when I got it.
And I was like, I never saw security at a baby shower before.
Makes 100% sense now.
And when I sat down and thought about it, I said, you know what?
We got enough social media to know these things happen at baby shower.
Some might pull up, ex-girlfriend pull up, she got her cousins with her.
So your cousin pussy good is what I'm hearing.
That's what I heard. That's what I heard.
Baby, that's what I heard.
I have never thought about that at the day of my life.
If it was anybody else and you seen secure at the baby shower, you'd be like, ah, ha, ha, that red snapper.
Or, I don't know.
I don't know.
Her boyfriend seems like a cool guy.
He seems like a nice guy.
Maybe in the streets.
I don't know.
You know, niggas clean up at the baby shop.
Yeah.
Niggas put on their best shirt, their best pants, get a nice cut.
He might be in the streets.
He might have beat.
The ops might be ready to run down on him at his baby shower.
I don't know.
I don't know what that means.
My cousin is what you said.
I'm not.
Okay.
But yes, my cousin had a baby showers.
You bought in the baby shower.
You got you get good gifts or money.
Well, she had a registry.
So I got to go on there and just see what nobody got.
Like, I'm pretty sure.
Like, you ain't did that yet?
But I always do that.
Like, whatever like the registry, I'd be like,
I'd be like, whatever, anybody didn't get when it comes
close to the date, I'll just buy whatever.
A good tip is to bring a Walmart or Target gift card and be like, here, buy whatever people
didn't get.
Okay, yeah, same thing.
Like, I was going to register, but I'm going to, you know, whatever she needs, she knows
she got it.
Well, did you watch the cash money versus no limit versus.
I did watch the cash money, no limit versus.
Shout out to cash money and no limit.
You know, a lot of people online today are a little younger.
Y'all don't really know.
Mm-hmm.
Because you was, you was, you was.
I'm too young.
Yeah, you was like fine.
six, maybe four.
Only no limit, like person I know is Lil Romeo.
Yeah, see, you don't, y'all don't really know what this was.
But this was huge for, you know, just for nostalgic purposes and just the legacy of two
of two of the most iconic labels in hip hop being cash money and no limit.
But the one problem, we was talking about it before we started.
Why was this in Las Vegas?
Complex.
Fuck that.
And I know Complex.
Shout to Complex.
We fuck with Complex.
But we know Complex.
gave them a bag. Of course. We know they, you know, because it was Complex Con and this was,
you know, the performance at Complex Con, but this had to be in New Orleans. We were supposed to do
this at the Superdome. Like this was not, this is not Las Vegas. So the crowd wasn't really.
No, because, I mean, it was people out there for Complex Con. People traveled. You know what I'm
saying? So, but it's, it wasn't, it wasn't New Orleans. It wasn't, it wasn't that. I mean,
people obviously knew some of the songs, people were, you know, happy to see the guys perform
to the thing.
But it wasn't, the energy just wasn't what you hear when you see cash money versus no
limit.
Yeah.
That has to be in New Orleans.
Yeah.
You understand?
I'm saying?
Like, that's just too much history.
It's too much, you know, just ties to, like, the community for real.
Everybody that's still in the city of New Orleans.
I know Hurricane Katrina kind of separated people.
But, you know, the essence of what cash money and no limit have.
done for that city, you got to have them on stage in New Orleans. So it was cool. It was cool seeing
it. No little Wayne, no Turk. I don't know how I'm invested I am at that point when you say,
you know, Wayne is not going to be there. Turk is not going to be there. And it's like.
So who, well, did they play little Wayne records though? Well, they play verses from Wayne.
You know, obviously they had to play some of his verses and things like that. But why wasn't
Wayne there? Like I still don't understand what him and Birdman are like, you know, as far as
personally. I don't know, you know, if they're even on speaking terms at this point, I really
don't remember. I can't keep up. There's a different head. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I can't keep up with men that don't talk to other men. That's just not my, that's not my DNA.
So who won in your opinion? In my opinion, looking at it, I mean, it probably was different
inside the venue, but looking at it, I felt like no limit one. Yeah. I felt like no limit one.
I felt like the record's just, just hit a little different. Now, don't get a twist of cash.
when obviously juvenile was there, you know, slow motion.
I mean, that's, that's a, that's a hood.
You okay?
My bad.
That's, you see what it does soon as you hear?
You ain't nobody playing nothing and you just start slow whining in your seat,
just when you hear the song.
So, yeah, you know, it was a couple, don't get a twist of cash money.
You know, they put on a good show.
But looking at it, you know, from what I felt, just looking at it,
I felt like no limit, they got the best, the best of that night.
Okay.
And again, that could be because, again, you don't got, you know, obviously the jugger and
out and Little Wayne not being in on stage, it does, you know, it takes away from it.
A lot of people saw it being closer than it was because they, they assumed that with cash money
came young money.
And I was like, I don't think that that's fair.
And I'm happy that they didn't do that, right?
Yeah, I'm happy that they didn't do that.
I don't think that that's fair in a sense.
I mean, yeah, I understand why you say that.
But, I mean, it is cash money, young money.
Yeah.
Like, you never heard any of the Young Money artists saying Young Money, it didn't say cash money at the same time.
So, you know, it's obviously ties there in affiliations, but this was just from that era of cash money before Drake, Nikki.
You know, Wayne obviously was cash money before Young Money.
But Wayne not being there, I think, was just the, you know, it's like, all right, man.
Like, this is, you know, we get it.
It was still cool to see Juvie and, you know, BG and Baby, Silk, Mia, X.
you know, Master P
Mr. P, bro, listen,
seeing Master P perform those records
and then like really thinking about
like the error that Master P had and dominated,
we don't talk about, yo, Master P played in the NBA.
He was just doing shit.
You don't, listen, you can't, that is like,
I don't, I really think we didn't stop.
We didn't pause long enough to really like salute Master P
for that.
Now, it wasn't, he didn't play 82 games in the season.
he wasn't on the star
and roster
and all that opening the day
the fact that
he was there
preseason
and just out there
he has a jersey
he was on the floor
with guys who played
the full season
bro that is
that's almost like
this is like
movie shit
like you know
when the movies
should be like
yo he went on to play
in the NBA
like this is what that is
this is like the dude
from the hood
that was on the block
you know
getting into some shit
whatever
whatever
straightened out his life
they was like
you gotta take this serious
he took it serious
and really like did something that he didn't you know he wouldn't have a long career but the fact
that he even got to that level you know how synonymous rap in basketball is yeah it's the same
it's one and the same the fact that master p did what he did in music in the culture and actually
played in a preseason NBA game and went on to be one of the greatest it was preseason correct
was it preseason so tell me that is crazy tell me about that because i know that we have some somewhat of a
younger audience and by younger, even the younger people, we get old now. So we might not have been
exactly around for that. Why did he only play preseason? Like, was he, what happened? Well, I mean,
it's the NBA there today. Like, it's not, you know, it's hard for guys that are really good at
basketball to make the opening day roster and stay in the league. Like, that's, you know,
that's just not something that any and everybody could do. So he wasn't that good. He wasn't good
enough to stay on an NBA roster.
But he was good. But he was good.
He got to the, you know, played in the preseason.
Now, some of it may have been just the lower of it.
Teams know what it did for marketing and things like that.
But still, he got out there and it looked good.
Like he was, it wasn't like he was out there and he looked crazy.
He couldn't play basketball.
Was he better than Brony?
Nah, he wasn't better than Brony.
No, we ain't doing that.
I was just asking.
No, baby, Dee, we're not doing that.
I was just asking.
Because I know how you felt about Brony.
I was just asking.
How do I feel about Bronny?
I mean, this podcast has been critical of him when he got drafted to the Lakers.
No, I mean, I was on, I, I rooted for it.
I like nepotism.
No, no, but calling it nepotism, exactly.
Oh, it's nepotism.
Don't get it twisted.
But that's why I was, because, I mean, Master P didn't have nepotism.
No, he didn't.
No, no, that's up.
But, yeah, but no, Bronny is, yes, Bronny will,
Bronny right now and Master P back then, if they played each other,
Bronny would destroy Master P.
Oh, okay.
Like, yeah, there's no, it's not even like, we're not going to do that.
Like, he absolutely would.
I was just, but I mean, I still support nepotism.
Okay.
I'm shout out to Bronny.
You know, I hope that he has a great career.
But yeah, we didn't, we didn't give, we didn't, the coach you didn't stop long enough to really salute that moment for Master P.
Like, like making a preseason NBA game.
Like that is something that we haven't seen.
We probably will never see again.
Jay Cole plays ball.
He never was on a preseason roster.
I mean, don't do that.
He was, did he play for like Africa or somewhere Cole was playing for?
Baby D.
What?
Have you seen the African team?
Don't do that.
Like, come on.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
We're not doing that.
I'm just saying it's just a difference is all I'm saying.
Shout out to Cole.
You know,
he's trying to pursue that too.
But even Jay Cole knows how crazy that is that Master P played with the Raptors and the Hornets.
Okay.
Oh, he's two teams.
Like, come on, man.
This is, like, we didn't, the coach didn't stop.
We didn't pause long enough to salute that.
So shout out the Master P.
Shout out the Birdman.
Shout out the cash money, no limit.
the versus
again I would have liked to see it
in New Orleans personally
because just the energy
would have been completely different
would have loved to see Turk there
Birdman had some things to say
in regards to Turk not being there
towards the end of the set
but you know we're not going to highlight
the negative shit but hopefully man
they could do this over and do it right
or just don't even make it a versus
just do a cash money no limit show
at the Superdome in New Orleans
it ain't gotta be a versus
it could kind of be like what JD was
planning on doing with Bad Boy
versus So So Def
whatever
was going to go in, you know.
Do you think JD was scared?
Nah, hell, nah.
Y'all don't know J.D.'s.
That's what I'm saying.
Yaddy's history.
First of all, first of all.
Nah, you don't, baby, D.
I'm not asking because I believe that J.D. is scared.
What I'm saying is, do you think-
No, I mean, and like, not you, y'all.
There are people that feel like that.
Okay.
No, because I just feel like, I don't know.
Like, because his history is so big and people, I don't know if people would expect,
I don't know if he would be considered the underdog in that situation.
Right.
If we do.
If JD would be the underdog?
Yes.
He would definitely be done.
Only because Puff is a bigger figure.
Okay.
He's a more polarizing figure.
But now, again, that's what J.D. likes, though.
He wants that because J.D. don't care about that.
The end of the day, when we start playing these records that I really produced.
Because then it's that part.
Oh, Shade.
No, no, no, it ain't Shade.
It's facts.
Clack it.
It's just facts.
Because we're talking about producers.
J.D. plays.
He writes.
He also raps.
Puff gives you know he gives you that he gives you that that style and that flair that
that or not say it like this like Puff do that he got sauce that's what he does
you got remember Puff comes from the party promotion game he know how to have a party
and how to you know what's going to make people move so he come from that
JD played drums you get what I'm saying like so he comes from he dance he was
breakdance and he was so he comes from that part of it so it's just like you know it would
have been interesting, but yeah, that that I wanted to happen only because I really feel like
people don't give Germain DePree. You know, obviously they say Mariah Carey. They say Usher.
But no, we got to go brat. We got to go criss. We got go criss. We got to go Bow Wow.
He got real songs with Biggie. He got real songs with Little Kim. So these are things that
people forget. I think he got songs with Mace. So these are things people forget when
when puffing them was popping him, bad boy was putting them joints out. J.D.
producing for a lot of those artists on bad boys well but people forget about that because that was
early 90s they could they really connect when you think jd you think usher you think you think rb you think
you think usher you think bow wow but you think usher mariah carey like exactly how you said you
know remember the back in the day they don't remember the the you know money ain't a thing with jz
they don't remember those records they don't you know what i'm saying life of 1472 they don't
remember that album so it's like you know i wanted to see that happen only because i think it's what the
versus does is it reminds a newer generation.
It also shines light on, damn, like, that record still sounds.
Because even watching the no limit cash money, I'm hearing about it, bowed and all that.
I'm like, I got to put this on a gym playlist.
Like, I forgot how.
It still, it is about.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm in the crib watching that shit.
I'm doing this just about it about it.
I'm like, now this shit, I forgot how just that energy of what it did when you first
heard those songs.
So I wish we obviously are not going to get that versus with Jady.
But I think we missed out on a moment, you know, where they would have did that in Atlanta at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium.
I mean, I think that at that point is just a party.
You know what I'm saying?
We letting JD and Puff DJ and just have, you know, going down that lane of a memory lane of hearing those records.
But, yeah, I think people need a lesson in Jermaine DePrito because they don't give JD his props when it comes to hip-hop rap as much as they should.
R&B, I think that's clear.
But let's not forget about what Jady did in hip hop and rap as well.
Yeah.
And I think it's because he doesn't.
He's not a flashy person.
He's humble.
Yeah, he's not a flashy person.
That's another thing.
Being humble sometimes to leave you out of the conversation because you ain't braggardosis
and you don't talk your shit, it's easy to forget about you.
When the loud niggas and the boisterous niggas, they're like, yeah, yeah.
But then when you're like, listen, fuck all.
Play them records, though.
And then I really produced that.
Like, I really went in there and played that.
That's a different conversation.
That's why I be trying to get y'all to talk y'all shit.
And y'all be like, nah, we cool, we humble.
New balances and upside down hats.
Like, nah, talk your shit.
But I'm just, that's just not me, baby, Dee.
I've never been that.
I mean, I was.
But now that would be crazy for me to start trying to, like,
we're just doing a part.
We're just talking to our shit, man, that's all.
This is just podcast, have fun.
I ain't got no ego when it comes to this shit, man.
I just like kicking and talking about shit, that's all.
Well, don't worry. I will pop it for y'all.
Pop it, baby, Dee.
As always.
Per usual type shit.
Speaking of pop it, Meg the Stallion's new video, Love a Girl.
Yo, I walked in.
I walked in and these things be blasting.
Love it, man.
Man.
Man.
Man.
Because look, baby, look, because I didn't see the video.
I was sure you did.
I saw clips of it.
Obviously, Meg was teasing it like for the last couple of weeks given.
I'm like, okay, I like that sample.
That's that total kissing you.
You know what I'm saying for those that don't know.
So I heard, I was like, okay, damn, the video came out.
I said, let me watch the video.
So now I remember the conversation we have.
And if you stop right there.
Josh to open the scene.
Stop right there.
No, no, go back a little bit
to the red and black
to the red and black right there.
Now,
we had a conversation
right there.
We had a conversation
last week, right?
And there was,
I don't know,
I didn't say it
because I think Meg is a pussy rat.
Now, obviously she can rap.
I think Meg can really rap.
But she's,
we call it pussy rap.
Right?
We call it the pussy rap.
We're in the pussy rap era.
This is a Patreon conversation
for people who listened.
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So we was talking about Meg being a pussy rapper.
And, you know, I was like, nah, she didn't really push.
She can really rap.
Yeah, she can really rap.
I think I like Meg.
She can rap.
She can talk shit.
But it still falls on the pussy rap.
The opening shot in this video, to me, maybe these are one of those things where it's like,
what do you see when you look at this?
I mean, maybe I need to sit down with a therapist.
Maybe it's a butterfly.
You just, you got bad.
Maybe that's a butterfly.
Maybe I see a clip.
I mean, one.
could take it as that. The clit is moving. Meg is the clit. The clip is moving.
I'm just telling you what I see. Okay. Maybe. Meg, I'm sorry if I'm not trying to, listen,
I'm not. Trying to sexualize her. I'm not trying to sexualize you, Meg. Not more than you
already do. You look great, Meg. You look fucking amazing. But the opening scene, baby, Dee.
It's artistic. I think it's beautiful. Put it in the Louvre. Put it in the fucking
Louvre. But we got to call it where it is. Uh-huh.
Yeah, that's definitely
alluding to
vaginal
aesthetics, right?
Yeah.
Vaginal aesthetics.
You got to get in there.
Right?
So I was sold as soon as I saw the opening scene.
I'm like, I'm in.
I'm in.
And then kissing you is a double entendre.
Come on now.
Now you're talking my language.
That's what I do.
Right?
Okay, cool.
Megan 3,000.
I'm on board.
I'm on board.
I'm a Meg fan.
I love Meg.
but she's a pussy rap
and she loves the pussy aesthetic
she loves her thing
she is
she is and I had to
bite my tongue when this song came out
which I was so excited for
and I do love this song
but I thought you know
with the clay debut
I'm like all right
Megan's moving into her grown woman
like I'm in love
like you know we're gonna settle down
get married type
nope it's still pop that pussy for your man
bitch we still pop a pussy
but just this time
it's not fuck man
It's I'm popping pussy for my man.
Hey.
She's showing growth.
She's showing growth.
For your man.
Don't just be out here popping it for your man.
I approve this message.
I do too.
I endorse it.
When is the rally?
I'll be there.
I'll be like 21 Savage at the shut.
What was it?
The whole slut walk.
The host added.
Oh, I'm sorry.
My bad hand, but slut walk.
I'll do that for Meg.
I'll be at the next.
What is it called?
Slut walk.
I think they canceled them, but yeah.
Why did they cancel that?
I don't know.
You niggas having no king rallies.
Ma.
You niggas is having no king rallies.
That alone says that there's no kings.
You can't have a no king rally and it be a king.
You niggas will be hung by midnight.
All you niggas.
So we need to bring the slut walk back.
Bring something back that the culture didn't want to see go.
I wasn't ready to see the slut walk go.
Ma, do you know what the slut walk was about, though?
What it was for?
Body positivity.
body empowerment
women's ability to exist in themselves
without having to be sexually assaulted
that was the main thing
I support that's what I'm saying I'll go
I'll go that I support let's support that
let's rally for that
load up the buses get us to DC
wherever the next slut walk
maybe how do we start
how do we how do we bring back the slut walk
we bring everything back you brink is bringing back
all these old movies that's wack
now.
Nobody want to bring back the shit that matter.
I was watching Sister Act on Netflix.
That's so funny.
Josh, can you look up why they got rid of the slut walk?
What happened to it?
Yes.
These are the questions I'm here to try to answer, baby D.
Bring back the slut walk.
We need the slut walk back.
But shout out to Meg.
Video's amazing.
She looks great.
They said Meg and Clay Thompson remind them of Duncan Pender Hughes and Demeter from class.
See, you're too young.
You never seen Class Act.
The fuck?
You never seen.
No, I've never seen it.
Pete, you seen Class Act?
Y'all never seen Clash Act?
Y'all are too young.
Y'all don't know the classics?
No, I've heard of it, but I've never seen it.
Pull up a picture of Duncan Penderhue's.
Oh, good luck with Josh.
And, to me.
Oh, God, Josh.
God, damn it, Josh, you're killing me.
Dunkin Penderhues.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Just put Class Act.
Got it.
Where is it?
Where is it?
they got to have a picture Demeter.
Well, that's Duncan.
Well, kid from Kid and Play played Duncan Penny Hughes.
But Demita, the girl in his school dad was like the bombshell, brown bombshell beauty.
They had a picture of them two in class right there.
They said, that's Clay and Meg.
I was crying.
You got to know this movie to really understand how funny that is.
When they say, yo, this is Clay and Meg.
But you got to, baby, I got to make a list of all.
Because you've never seen Boys in Hood.
First of all, putting that on me crazy as fuck.
No, no, what movie?
You didn't see, it was some movies we named me.
But they weren't black movies.
Like, there weren't like classic black movies.
It was some classic black movies you haven't seen.
We talked about this.
I think the only classic black movie I haven't seen is, um, what's the one with the black
and white like face?
Dead presidents.
Dead presidents.
I haven't seen it.
Yeah.
I haven't seen it.
No, it was some other movies.
Don't do that.
It was some other movie.
We would have to pull up the list of black movies.
There's a couple I haven't seen, but what are you looking for?
I need some tissue.
I'm sorry.
Peace. Can we pause?
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So, Baby D, it was brought to my attention.
We was talking about hip hop being dead.
You know, they've been saying, we were saying that for years.
It's hip hop dead.
It's hip hop dead.
So in September, four hip hop songs were on a global charts in September.
Okay.
Five years ago, they were 56 on the global charts.
That's a big drop.
It is.
That's over 90%.
gone, right?
We had to talk with Berg, shout the hitmaker.
He came by the set last week, and he posed a question because we were saying, you know,
women are dominating rap right now as far as like they're being more stars, newer stars,
and rap, most of them are women.
And he said, well, name, you know, some stars, superstars under 35 on the men's side.
Like, don't name the legacy acts.
Don't name the guys that have been in for years.
And it stumped us.
It was obviously the NBA young boy.
You know, we acknowledge that.
Not saying, you know, but it is interesting to see women dominating hip hop rap now.
And then now, in September, only four hip hop songs on a global charts.
I'm not saying this is women's fault.
How you, okay.
No, no, just listen.
But we have to, because this is just data.
This is analytics.
Like right now, yes, women are dominating.
Okay, so that's where I want to stop you because women are not dominating rap.
How?
Because them four songs that are on the global charts, I guarantee that they're not women's songs, unless it's from Carrey's album.
What were the four?
Josh, can you look up the four hip hop songs that were on the global charts?
Women are not dominating rap.
Women, there are more, no, there are more women hip hop stars than ever before.
That's what I'm speaking to.
But that doesn't mean that they're dominating rap because there's still way more men than them.
I mean, as far as, yes, I'm just saying the stars, though, the stars, the ones that are.
The stars that people would consider stars would be NBA young boy, Playboy Cardi, Travis Scott, Cardi B.
Those would be who people would consider the big, big stars.
Who?
NBA young boy, Travis Scott, Playboy Cardi.
I don't look at Playboy Cardi.
Drake.
But the charts do.
They acknowledge it.
They don't acknowledge him.
Well, yeah, they categorize it as rap for sure.
He's rap.
So, but I think that's the issue.
So you can continue what you were going to say as far as like, do we connect it to more
women being there.
But I'm going to disagree with you.
I don't think that that's it.
I think it's that we took the R&B out of hip hop.
We took the soulfulness.
Huh?
The hook being R&B?
We took the soulfulness out of hip hop.
And that is what made it more palatable to other genres.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, I guess I guess it's a lot of that baked into it,
I'm not saying that the fact that we have just women dominating or more women dominating rap right now than we've probably ever had.
I'm not saying that's the sole reason for it.
There's a lot of things that we can put into it.
But to me, I think we start there because we've never had this many women rap stars before at one time.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like every day we turn around, it's like, oh, shit, like another female MC is coming and she's got a dope record.
Like, okay, cool.
But does that sustain?
Obviously not.
The music in general is not sustaining.
Like a lot of music, like, we happy to get mob deep albums and everything that, you know, they're doing that massive pill.
We're happy to get all these.
And these are all legacy artists.
These are all legacy acts dropping new music.
But as far as like the newer artists, hip hop is in a scary place.
I think hip hop is in a very, very scary place.
I think that it's a conversation that, you know, we all.
need to start having and really looking at like, damn, like, what is how?
If this happened in five years, if only four hip-hop songs are charting on today's
global Spotify chart, like, what does the next five years look like?
So the songs that are charting are see you, see you again.
I'm going to assume that that's the, with Khalifa, see you again.
All the stars, obviously by Siza and Kendrick, both which have R&B hooks.
Yeah.
And who is timeless in No weekend.
The weekend and Playwork Hardy, right?
Okay.
That's not right.
That's the weekend.
That ain't rap.
And then what's the other one?
No poll.
Who is that?
Oh, this is,
oh, they're calling that that weekend record hip hop?
See what I'm saying?
That's where it gets tricky.
Yeah.
But even still, if you see,
those are all,
they have R&B.
Is the hook.
Yeah.
So it's like that's palatable to a wider audience.
When you're talking about global,
that's palatable to a wider audience,
the soul, the R&B,
which is the reason why all of our artists
when they were doing soul and R&B music
back in the day was so widespread.
You see what I'm saying?
So when you bring hip hop into it
and you got them banging verses
and a good-ass hook,
like people can listen to that,
straight rap, through and through
or these bullshit where they're like
doing this drill rap
and then they're also singing the hooks
and it don't sound good
because they can't fucking sing.
Like it's just,
which I blame.
Kim Kanye and drink for that shit, by the way.
What?
Rappers singing their own hooks.
But rappers used to always sing their own hooks.
You know, that was like a thing at one point, like...
Not all of them.
No, most rappers used to do their own hooks, though.
When?
I mean, you just go back and listen to like a lot of the biggie shit, a lot of Tupac shit,
a lot of early JZ shit, a lot of Nile shit, a lot.
Like, they were doing their own hooks?
Well, yeah.
But when I'm thinking, so what year did they say they were 56?
They said it was how many, five years ago?
Five years ago.
this is Spotify's top 200 motions.
Okay.
Oh, this is the Spotify's top 200 most stream tracks.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
But still.
Yeah.
It should be more than four.
I just think that it's a conversation, man.
And we talk about it a lot.
Like, you know, now you listen to a song.
It's almost like as good as we all felt the clips album was when it came out, right?
Mm-hmm.
I haven't played that album in weeks.
I'm talking I'm not a single song
I played it in weeks and I like it
I liked the album, I thought it was good
I played it back to back to back
to back when it first came out
and then I revisit it every once in a while
but I don't play it as often
as I did when it first came out
but I still do play it pretty often.
People don't understand that it's this.
It's that phone.
Our parents were right.
It's the damn phone.
This, this, the phone is killing music.
As much as we don't want to admit it,
the phone is how we listen to me.
Like if I'm playing an album right now,
I'm connected to the speakers in the crib and I'm playing, I'm listening.
Somebody call me.
Somebody send me some video to look at it.
I might not even go back to the album tonight.
Now I fell into a conversation about whatever, somebody texts me, da-da-da-da, get on the phone.
Like, it's not, this takes away from the music experience.
As much as I love it, because it is very convenient.
I can pull up a song, I can hum a melody into my phone and don't even remember the words,
and it'll pull up the song and I can play it.
So I love that part of it, but it definitely has taken us away from experiencing music in the way that we used to.
Like before you get a CD or you get a vinyl, you put it on, niggas could be in the crib fighting.
Guess what?
That music's still playing.
Somebody could call you on the phone.
I'm on the phone.
Music's still playing.
Like, I'm still in.
I'm still here.
I'm still listening in the moment.
I'm still consuming the music.
Now playing it off my phone, something happens.
you know, whatever, whatever.
It's like it pulled me away from that.
I'm on the phone.
I forgot, but that's not just for music with TV as well.
Mm-hmm.
I could be watching the show, get a call, something, watching something on my phone.
Never revisit it.
I don't even know what just happened the last two episodes.
The shit just been running.
Our attention, our attention span is so short.
I will also say that me personally, I don't know if anybody else feels this way.
When I, I tire of songs quicker now because of Instagram.
So when I'm doom scrolling, which I do do, I have a problem.
I need to fix that.
But when I'm doom scrolling on Instagram
and I'm doing scrolling on TikTok
and people are creating content
and I've heard that song a million times.
Now, I'm now tired of it.
I might have heard it three times on my phone,
but I've heard it a hundredth.
There are songs that I know full the words too
that I've never downloaded,
never heard in my phone,
but I know the words simply because I've consumed
so much content with that fucking song.
Songs live longer on social media
than they do in your home.
For sure.
And in your car.
Because somebody posts a video
that goes viral with Doja Cat playing in the background.
Everybody, we all seen that shit.
Their shit keeps playing us on the real.
Like, it lives longer on social media.
Then it does like, then you live with it in your personal time.
And I mean, again, I'm not saying it's a, yeah, well, yes, I am saying.
I do think it's a negative thing.
Yeah.
I do.
Because it's evident when you see charts like this.
It's like, bro, people are not.
I just feel like people are just not as attached to the music.
as we once were.
And the quality of the music,
let's be honest,
the quality of the music is just not good.
It's not as good.
It's not, there is good music out there.
But see, baby, these niggas killed me years ago
when I said that because I was saying
it was easier to get in the music business
and get on.
I remember, I remember.
Than it's ever,
nah, no, it's not.
How?
I can be a no name.
This could be my first album
I ever recorded.
And if Drake drops tonight,
guess who else can drop tonight?
Me.
Like, I can put my album
on the same DSP, nobody's ever heard of me,
but I can put my album on the same DSP as Drake or Beyonce or whoever.
And this is my first part.
Nobody's, I'm not even, I just made this in my basement and it take off.
I can have a song that goes viral.
Now I'm getting booked over here, booked on.
You know how hard it was to do that?
Just not even, let's say 25 years ago.
Like it was, you had to really travel and go to these cities and go hand to hand
trying to get people to hear your shit.
Now I'll just upload a record tonight.
I could be a star next Sunday.
And also what the labels are looking for now, from what I see,
is no one's looking for the quality.
No one's sitting in these meetings
and making these people climb on the table
like they did Bobby Shmurda and perform and sound.
We needed to get away from that.
You niggas don't ever need to be on nobody's table rapping.
Like, let's get away from that shit.
No one is, there's no quality control.
What they're looking for is,
Coach and cute.
They down there doing Coach K.
And they're looking for is who has the attention.
And what people do to get attention nowadays is not be talented.
Like you can be talented and get attention,
but that's not what everybody's going for.
Everybody wants to be some type of like,
I don't even want to say content creator,
but there's so many smoking mirrors and like just Fugazi shit going on
and shit that's making people a star.
That's how you get someone like some of our stars.
I'm not going to say any names.
But it's like you're not.
Good, but you've created this persona that the young kids have fallen in love with and now
they're a rock star and they're demonic and it's going viral and you're doing clickbaity shit.
And now you have like this cult-based following about a bunch of bullshit that's not good
music.
You see what I'm saying?
Like so it's like their labels are just looking for, well, who's, all right, you got a little
couple songs out.
Who's getting the most?
You got a lot of social media following or people coming to your shows, this, this, this,
this and that.
They're not looking for good music.
So bullshit slips through the cracks.
Bullshit is allowed to become the biggest.
And then because other shit doesn't look like bullshit, it makes it hard for real shit.
Now when you make real shit, they're like, oh, you make an old school hip hop.
And it's like, no, I'm not making old school hip hop.
I'm just making hip hop.
I'm making actual rap.
But no one's sitting down and listening to actual rap anymore unless you already have
our hearts.
Clips already has our hearts.
If people would have just came out.
Yeah.
If unknown people would have came out with that Clips album, people wouldn't have
fucking listen to it. It wouldn't have gotten as much, you know what I'm saying? Nowhere near as much
of attention, no matter how good it was. But they have our hearts already. So we're going to go
listen and be like, ah, this is good. We've missed this. But they're not going to go do all the
silly bullshit that these other artists are going to do to continue to go viral and have viral sounds
and all of that shit. So then you come at an impasse because now the internet runs everything. So if
you can't pop on the internet, then you're not going to pop on the charts unless it's
It was crazy because it was never, it used to be the reverse of that.
Like, so I've, you know, again, I'm old enough to remember a group like Millie Vanilly.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Great record.
Great record.
But it was a thing where it was like, yeah, but whoever made that record probably doesn't look like a star.
Yeah.
Right.
Now, you just got to look like a star.
Mm-hmm.
We could tweak.
We can turn the knobs in the studio and we could get the sound to where it need to be.
but before it used to be
as long as the music is good
that was we lead first
is the music good
he may not be a star
she may not be a star
we don't even got to put them in the video
we can use somebody
because this is things that really happened
there was videos in the 90s
where I come to find out
that ain't even the person
who's on a record
that's not even them
but they're in the video
and they're portraying it
like they're performing a record
and that's not even the real artist
so it went from that
it went from leading with
the music being great
to now, that's the second, that's secondary.
Yeah.
Now it's like, yo, what's your personality?
Like, you know what's your, you know,
do people love the personality, do they love the look, the aesthetic,
you know, the vibe, the energy, okay, cool.
Now we could put music, we can put something together,
we could cook something up, get them in the studio with the right person,
we see it all the time.
But then now what happens is you get something like this chart
that we have to sit and look back and be like, damn.
Only four?
So it's a real conversation to have, man.
I just feel like, you know, again, being able to see the many shifts and changes in the landscape of music and things like that and being able to look back.
And things are looking a little for the first time that I can remember, you know, people were saying hip hop is dead for years.
It's looking dead though.
It's looking like, I ain't going to lie.
We might have to start going to hospice and visiting this motherfucker.
Like, yo, this nigger might be on his way out of it.
Y'all got to start making hip hop music that the old people and that the white people can
comfortably rap.
That's the only way.
The white people and the old people got to comfortably wrap it.
Yeah, but white people comfortably rap some of our like, Piz was just going crazy on a no-limit shit.
He just told us a beautiful story about how back in 1997 him and his friends would gather
around a local Dell computer and look at videos.
A local Dell computer.
Because you know it wasn't theirs.
Like, you know, none of us had a computer in our home for a while.
That was like a, if a nigger had a computer, you was rich.
If your man had a computer like in 9-5, you go to your man.
I didn't even know they had computers in 9-5.
Don't do that.
Don't play with me like that.
I got my first computer in like 2001.
We're not talking about when you got your first computer.
I'm talking about, yes, there were computers in 1990.
What did they look like?
They would look like it was a big ass box.
But it was that shit worked though, baby, D.
And if your mom's picked up to make a call, connection was all fucked up.
Well, no, it was like that when I first got a computer too.
That AOL
My mother would be mad as fuck
She's gonna pick up her phone and hear that shit
Yeah but white people have always
Comfortably rap to rap music
The most ghettoist most hood shit
They love that
They relate to that shit
Yes but we're
You also have to remember that we're in a little bit
More of a woke era too
So it's not
They don't feel comfortable rapping that
As much as they used to
And when I say white people
I mean like the Martha Stewart's of the world
Well Martha Stewart she's a felon
Yeah, but I mean old white women. Old white women and old black people, period, like to feel comfortable rapiness.
Like now where they hear they're like, what is this book? What is this shit y'all are listening to? Like that. Like you need music that makes them comfortable. And I think that's the music, the rap music that goes far. I think that Drake has done a good job at that. I think Cardi B's album, the reason why it was that big is because she was able to do that too to make, even if it is raunchy, you have singles that sound good to old people.
Like, you need all of us to make rap number one again.
You can't just cater to the little fucking kids that are on their computers gaming and fucking saying, I hate you, mom.
Like, you can't just cater to them.
Like, you have to get everybody involved in order to be that big.
Hmm?
M&M did.
Well, yeah.
But also, if you don't, unless you were really straining to hear Eminem or like really listening to shit, you didn't really realize just how horrible Eminem's lyrics were in the shit that he was saying.
Because when I was younger and I was singing Eminem, I didn't know what the fuck I.
was singing. You didn't know what you was singing when you was singing a lot of this juvenile
shit back that ass up. No, I knew what that meant. You working with some ash year, you bad year,
make a niggins cashier last year. You know how old you was when that song first came up?
How old was? What year to back that ass up first come out? Ninety-eight?
Four. Maybe. 97, 99. And that era right there, 98?
But see, how old would you? Four. But see. You knew what you were saying now.
You ain't know what the fuck you were saying, but to be fair, the first time I probably heard that song or really heard like really listen to it.
I probably wasn't for that song still.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit still plays and parties.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's another thing.
When people say that female rap is too ronchy these days up, like I was, I grew up listening to Trina and Lil Kim.
Y'all aren't about to tell me that Wop is the worst song y'all ever heard.
Like I can't, I just can't get jiggy with that.
Nah, listen, man, when Wap first came out, they killed me for saying it.
That, like hearing, listen, I heard, I had the little.
Kim hardcore poster in my room.
I had the poster.
Like I knew how to...
That little Kim hardcore poster shook up...
That shit shook up the culture like crack rock.
That shook that...
That little Kim hardcore poster,
that shook the black community like crack in the 80s.
No, I'm...
Y'all think I'm joking.
Niggas, oh, you wasn't...
Matter of fact, in high school,
if you opened your locker
and you didn't have that little Kim poster
in your locker, you was a lame.
You was lame.
You were lame.
Like, you know, you don't got the hardcore?
And then, like, if they heard you had it, open your locker.
Here come to principle.
Open your locker.
Hayton.
Rip my shit right out.
Going to get another one.
I don't care.
Little Kim will be it.
That hard core.
So, and even it.
But then, Josh, pull up the Little Kim hardcore picture.
Watch this.
Baby, me.
Let me fuck your head all the way up with this one.
Look at this picture now with today's 2025 eyes.
And tell me what was the problem with this?
poster.
That thing was fatted in a swamp
possum with the lump. But what's wrong with it?
If you look at that, that's almost like
that could be in fucking...
That can be an IG right on.
IG, that could be outside on a bus.
Like that can...
Yeah.
This is a wreck.
There is nothing hardcore about this picture.
Mm-hmm.
In 2025.
Now in 1995 or 96, whatever year
came out,
oh, you, that shit shook the streets up.
Mm-hmm.
But this is what I'm saying.
now we get to the Meg video
lover girl
Meg if Meg would have stood up in that day they'd be like
come on
this ain't a gap commercial
and Meg
if Meg showed up dressed like
Little Kim on that hard cup now
they'd be like come on this ain't gap
we're not doing the gap commercial like this ain't
this ain't gap but you see what I'm saying
that was considered so now
when you hear WAP
but see
BASID
It's the dangly thing in the back of my throat is
Crave. Stiff dicks feel sweet in this little petite young bitch from the streets guaranteed to
stay down. Used to bring work at a town. Greyhound. I'm Bill Boybow. She's moving drugs.
Stiff dicks feel sweet in this little petite. Okay. Sex. I know a dude named Jimmy used to
run up in me. Late night, pissy drunk off a henny and when he didn't mind it. When he fucked me
from behind it, it felt fine, especially when he used to grind it. He was a trick when I sucked
his dick. He used to pass me. Come on now. I'm here with you, baby. D. Huh? I'm here with you, baby.
You know.
Yeah.
That ain't hit the dangly thing in the back of my throat.
Come on, bro.
I'm just saying.
And, and here's the other part of what you just said.
How many times did you say pussy?
Okay, so what I will say is I rest my case.
How many times did you say pussy in all those Little Kim bars?
Little Kim has pussy bars.
I'm not, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not saying she don't.
I'm not saying she don't.
We speaking on WAP versus all.
All that little Kim shit you just gave me.
I was there.
I was outside, Baby, D.
The motherfucker never ate my pussy as a little Kim bar.
No, Little Kim, listen, she definitely has raunchy, wild bars.
But you got to go into the album cuts a little more to kind of get to some of that.
I'm saying those bars you just spit, that was like, I could, the reason I know Baby D
because we used to rap Little Kim bars as a man.
As a young nigga in the streets, I used to.
How many licks to you?
Does it take?
No, I wasn't on that.
Okay, all right.
That wasn't for me.
I couldn't, I couldn't wrap that.
He had a big ass dick in a hurricane tongue.
You was wrapping that.
I didn't do that.
I was at the bar when that came up.
Okay.
I'm just saying like, she got those in there, but it wasn't as.
It was as.
No, it wasn't.
I was really there, baby.
Sheena says, you don't know how that fuck five, six best friend.
Five or six best friends is crazy.
I don't know five niggas that best friends together.
Your nigs ain't got five best friends, first of all.
That's like, let's start there.
Niggas don't got five best friends.
Like five or six best friends.
You know now.
You don't even know, but yeah, y'all don't know.
When Trina took the jacket off in that video and we saw the sparkly bra, she fucked
the hood.
The streets was fucked up after that.
Who is this light skin girl?
That's all we wanted to know.
Niggas ran home from school to watch BET to catch that video.
Yo, who is Shorty with the sparkly?
Like, y'all can't make me feel bad about why when there was credit cards getting slid in
between people
ass,
Greg.
That was,
go,
go watch the
tip true video
today and then
go put on Meg's
new video.
It's not as
crazy as you think,
baby.
Back then,
yeah,
because we talk about
the thong song.
Go look at that video.
The thongs is fat-ass.
That video is like,
nigga,
this is Baywatch.
This ain't no funny.
Like,
in comparison to today,
I'm saying.
That's bad ass.
Them thongs were so fat.
Hey,
come on.
What we,
this one,
it just wasn't as,
like,
It's just like, I was watching the video.
I asked Pete.
I said, was that a lip?
I think they missed the edit.
I think they missed the edit.
I'm like, yo, I think they missed the edit.
Don't piss me up.
I'm just saying the times have changed.
There is way too much.
There is way too much just overt sexuality.
And I don't want to put it on the women because it's not just the women.
The men have done it too.
There's too much overt sexuality in songs now.
Like, I want to hear, like, Victoria Monet does a good job at describing sex, but making it like a metaphor.
Like, she has a song called F-U-C-K, Friend You Can Keep, which is about friends with benefits.
Oh, I thank her for that face-to-face when we did BET.
That was so beautiful the way she did that.
You think that.
I said, you think of that.
I couldn't figure out how to say what you said for years.
I was trying to say, I don't want to say, I just want to fuck you.
You don't want to tell a girl.
I just want to try to fuck.
Uh-huh.
But now if you say, I'm just trying to be a friend you can keep.
Ooh, she's coming.
She's coming.
She's over me going, right?
Yeah.
But if you were like, I'm trying to fuck,
nigga beat it.
I'm just trying to be a friend you could keep.
Now as nigga beat it.
That's why you my nigga.
That's why you my nigga.
Because you understand.
That's all I'm saying.
You get it.
That's just the way you say it.
Yeah.
Megan, they can all get their shit off.
It's just the whop.
You could get it all.
It's just the way you say it.
Yeah.
You could tell a nigga you got a wet-ass pussy.
Wop, cool.
I got it.
I got this wok.
That's fire.
Hit the dangly thing in the back of you.
Whoa!
How many other niggas have you told this to?
Now I got questions on a date.
I don't want to spit.
I want a gulp.
I want a gag.
I want to choke.
I do too.
I want that.
But don't tell me it like that.
Like, just kind of make it a little more.
When you go back and listen to the lyrics to the like,
dabble me, swallow me, drip down the side of me,
quick jump out for you let it get inside of me.
Quick jump out.
Yeah, I felt a fuck out of that.
I hear you, man.
I hear you.
I've been on the other side of that.
I get it.
Maybe I'm here to tell you I understand.
I'm just saying the way we're doing it.
A couple more meta.
We need more metaphor.
We just need a little more artistic play to it.
We just need to kind of like dress it up a little more as hip hop as rap.
Put a little more skill.
I was thinking about that when we were talking about how suck it or not is like a legendary song.
And I'm like I was thinking in my head like, why do I like suck it?
I liked suck it or not so much because, I mean, it was a good song, but it was also very raunchy.
And it's like I like that it was rare for a song to be that.
raunchy. It's not rare anymore. It's not rare. Yeah. It's not real. We've become and I don't want to
sound, I know we getting older. I don't want to sound like the old, prove people, because we just
as freaked out as everybody else, right? We've proven that through the years on this podcast.
But there's a, there's a better way to do it. There's a more creative way to do it.
And I just wish that people would explore it. But at the same time, when we go into the air of,
like we said, the internet and clicks, these are the songs that the labels are picking for
to go out because that's what garners attention. And I've, I've, I've complained. I've complained.
about that with Meg before.
When people like Meg rap about the same thing, I'm like, when Meg is not rapping about
pussy, y'all don't want to hear it.
So it's like if I want a career, any of these artists, if I want a career, then I have to
either be beefing with somebody or rapping about sex or rapping about intense violence.
Like all of the negativity, the negative shit about hip hop has just been amplified.
And that's what people seem to only support.
That's what seems to go viral.
Well, sex sells and it always will.
It was probably the first thing that was ever sold with some pussy.
I think it was gold and then pussy.
Brick and mortar.
Yeah, exactly.
But, you know, I just, again, just being a consumer, consumer first of music and culture and hip hop,
I just would like to see a little more artistic, cleverness, still be sexy.
I love women.
That's, you know, never, I ain't wake up one day and never not love women.
I love women.
Love women.
Love all of that.
But, you know, when it comes to music and things like that, I just wanted to just be a little more clever,
a little more artistic, a little more skill set.
That's all I'm saying.
Like, still be sexy.
Get your shit off, talk your shit.
But I just want to just a little more, just give me this a little.
Yeah, be a little more clever with the pin.
That's all I'm saying.
But I love it though.
Shout out to Meg.
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So you show, Kiki Palmer trailer for her new TV show, Southern Fry Rice.
Shout out to Kiki Palmer.
We support Kiki.
over here. I think she's dope. She's a legend. Now, I watched the trailer with you. And you were telling
me that people online, the trailer came out, people online killing Kiki Palm about this trailer. Why are people
killing Kiki Palmer about this trailer? So for the people who haven't seen, Southern Frye Rice is a show
about a Asian girl who was raised in black culture. I think her family or adopted family is black
or whatever. And she goes to HBCU. And it's about her experience at an HBCU. Now, the backlash that
Kiki was receiving that I saw.
was out of all the perspectives that you can write from and the, the, the, the, you're black and
you have the opportunity to tell stories instead of telling the story of a black woman or a black
man that isn't, you know, like we love when we get opportunities to tell stories that aren't
rooted in our trauma, rooted in slavery, rooted in Tyler Perry S. storylines.
Trauma.
Yes.
You get this, this opportunity to tell a story.
And instead of telling a black person's story, you tell the story of Asian American in a black
person's space and how it affects her and what trouble she could go through in a black person's
space. And they're saying that it's tone deaf. Why? What do you think about that? I can, I don't
exactly agree. I can understand where they're coming from, but I like different stories, right? So this isn't a
story that I've heard before. I wouldn't mind hearing it. But I also do understand the critique of Kiki
as a black woman. You know we don't get many opportunities in these spaces to be an executive
producer, why wouldn't you executive produce a project that told our stories? Why are you telling
it for other? Because other races are always, the Asians are always going to hold the Asians
down. The whites are always going to hold the whites down. They're always going to give them
opportunities. When we get a black person in a bigger space, it would be nice for one of us to give
opportunities to one of us to tell our story. I kind of understand where people are coming from.
I don't. Because Keen has done that. She just had a movie in theaters with Siza that that I think
she executive producer wrote or something like that. I think she was on there for that.
Well, Issa Ray did.
I think Kiki might have just acted.
Shout out to Issa.
Shout out to Kiki for, you know, a good performance.
Shout out to Sizzle for her performance as well.
But I think that, and y'all kill me for this.
I don't know why.
I just think that it's just a lot of it.
A lot of our disagreements, I feel like it's just the age difference.
But like you said, Kiki Palmer has this role now.
Why not give us because we always claim we get the same shit over and over, the same
stories over and over.
Okay.
So here comes Kiki.
Kiki Palmer giving us something different.
It's still HBCU, so we're still in there.
Our culture is still the focus of the film, but it's just from the lens of somebody that's not, that doesn't look like us.
Now, if you're adopted, if you're an Asian and you're adopted and a black family adoption, yes, I'm Asian.
Like my birth mother and my father may have been Asian.
They couldn't take care of me for whatever reason.
He gave me for adoption.
Black family adopts me, raises me.
This is the culture that I know.
Josh, double check that that's the storyline, by the way.
But keep talking more.
This is the culture that I know.
This is the culture that I was raised in.
As a black man growing up in New York City, I say it all the time.
I had so many different friends from different cultures that lived in my building,
whether it was Indian, whether it was Cambodian, whether it was Albanian, whether it was Dominican, Puerto Rican, Italian, Irish.
Like, I grew up in a neighborhood that culture was, you know, and we didn't even remember.
really look at it like that until I go to your house for the first time.
And I see the way, you know, your house is decorated and like the type of food your mom makes.
Then it's like, oh shit, like I forgot you was a whole different, you know, like your house is different
from my house.
But when we're outside in the park doing dumb shit or we playing sports together or, you know,
we're going to see some girls and we riding the train to go down to the mall, whatever,
but the culture is not a conversation.
This is my man from my block.
This isn't, oh, this is my, you know, Cambodian homeboy.
Like, it wasn't that.
This is, that's John.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't care about your culture.
I respect you.
But it wasn't a conversation.
So now you have this, again, I don't know with this Kiki Palm with things,
but you have an Asian American going to an HBCU.
What people are upset because they feel like she's telling the story of an Asian
American versus telling a black American story going to age.
We've seen that story.
How many times?
But, okay.
So, so this is the thing.
Yes, we've seen some of that story.
A lot of it.
I don't want to say a lot of it.
Stomp the yard.
You want me to go with the Spikely School Days,
classic one.
How many more can we go down?
I mean, there's so many stories of,
shit, boys in the hood,
they went to Spellman and Morehouse.
So you have these stories of black kids from the hood
going to these 8th.
We've seen that.
But in all of those movies that you named, what else is in there?
Trauma.
There's trauma in every single one of those movies.
Yeah, but I mean, Drumline ain't no trauma.
Well, he didn't know his dad.
He met his dad.
He sold him tokens and his dad didn't come to his graduation.
That could be traumatic, right?
My dad didn't support me.
But the story of Drumline isn't a traumatic story.
It's a fun kid goes to school.
He doesn't really know how to play me.
He lied to get in, but he's so, you know, he plays off an ear.
One of the reasons it's a classic.
But there aren't a lot of classic stories.
about black people's school that doesn't have some big trauma, which is one of the reasons why
forever on Netflix, did you ever watch forever? I think we told you about it. It was the two high
school kids that were falling in love and things like that. That's why it blew up so big because
it was such a beautiful black story and there was no trauma. So I understand what you're saying.
I'm not mad at this storyline, right? I think the people that are complaining, I think it's just
like, who the fuck cares how an Asian American feels in our spaces. But I can understand why
somebody might want to tell that story.
I don't think it's worth killing Kiki over.
She didn't even write it.
She's an executive producer.
Listen, baby D.
You,
something that I learned,
there are people that's going to wake up
and rush to the internet
to hate on everything.
And to be upset and bothered by everything.
That's just like,
so when you tell me,
oh, they're online killing Kiki for this.
And I look at the trail
and I'm like,
why are they killing it for this?
I hate the title, though.
I'm not going to lie.
Southern Fried Rice is so corny.
Okay.
That shit is whack.
All right.
Cool.
We can see how that.
that's a little like, but now we gotta wait to see the show to see if it's like,
okay, we get how we tied that in.
Like, but we can't go off a trailer and then go online to start stomping Kiki out.
Yeah.
It's just like I don't complain about anything.
And the thing is I don't have, again, I don't have a victim mentality.
I don't approach things with the mentality of being upset or that hurt me, that bothered me.
I'm always willing to listen, look at it, learn like, okay, see what, see what the, you know,
give me the whole thing. Let me see what this is before I go online. I'm like,
Yo, Kiki, you tripping. Why would you make this TV show about some Asian American
instead of telling one of our beautiful black sister story? Like, I'm just not doing that, man.
Like, people just got to fucking relax. Like, I get it. You know, we don't get noticed in a lot of
spaces. But at the same time, I can go on Netflix and pull up a thousand movies and shows
that highlight black kids going to school. What's the other Nick Cannon one?
It was the other Nick Cannon
with Christina Millian
Beautiful
Love don't cost a thing
Beautiful
I yeah I feel like she was
Leguel with Lorenz Tade and Jada Pink
Beautiful stories
She was catching
She was catching a lot of
I feel like now I understand
When people critique people like
Kenya Barris and
Shonda Rimes
For their like for example
They catch a lot of slack
Keni Barris is the producer
of Blackish the is show
Legend
And you know
Shonda Rimes
Grays Anatomy scandal things like
that. They and Mindy Colleen gets this too. The interracial relationships they catch a lot of slack
for. There's constant interracial relationships in their shows. Okay now if you're a producer that does
that. Okay. Now if you're a producer that does that and it's like we can look at your
filmography and point that out, then it's like your fan, why are you always got an interracial couple
in you? Like why is the focus always? Yeah. Like why is that always the focus? But
somebody like me
go online and say
yo why y'all got a gay couple
on every show now?
Oh my gosh
you see?
You see the reaction?
You see the reaction?
That's what I'm saying though
so why
so why can't people say that
and then I say that as well
I hear I am watching a gangster mom movie
they're going out
and then niggins start kissing
where is that at
why y'all throw that in it
which show is that?
Josh at what show
he won't see himself
I'm just saying why
y'all throw that? Why do y'all, why do they throw that in there, though?
I feel like they've, I feel like that's been happening.
I was, so when, when, even like male frontal nudity now.
Well, that's HBO Max. Everybody naked.
I'm like, yo, why? I'm watching the movie. Doe storyline. Like, okay, this is cool.
Homie turn around. Peace out. I'm like, we didn't need that to feel like the scene was real.
But hold on because you weren't, they've been doing that to women for years and you never complain.
People got tired. I mean, yes. Yes. Yes.
But people got tired of women
Women being the only one objectified in shows
Now we objectified everybody
If it's gonna be
HBO
If this pussy on the screen
It's dick on there too
I can't complain about that
Yeah but it's just be
I don't know man
I'm so tired of seeing soft dick though
At least like stroke it before you put it on camera
Just soft meat on my TV
And you gotta be a different type of actor
The show soft meat
And know it's going out to the theaters
You know how crazy it is
I show my meat soft and like Netflix
November 3rd
Like, yo, hold up, hold up.
It's wild nigger subscribing Netflix.
Don't put me, yo, that didn't make,
that wasn't supposed to make it on the edit.
That's supposed to make it off the edit floor.
Edit that out.
My shit is mad smirmy,
and y'all talking about November 17th.
That's a week before Thanksgiving,
everybody on Netflix.
Nah, don't put me on Netflix.
Thanksgiving was soft meat.
Don't do that.
Don't do me like that.
Listen.
You want to be an actor?
You want to get into it.
Yeah, but they're killing Kiki for the wrong things,
man shout out the Kiki Palmer man I'm gonna watch it just because they're killing her and I can't wait to support it I'm gonna get everybody mad on the time I fuck yeah that's you know I can't wait has anybody ever told you you are contrarian yeah I think you go against the grain anything people like you automatically hate because I like what a lot of people like to but I'm just but that's just always been me though baby D like I just I look at things differently like people be upset about that and I'm just like why are y'all upset about this but I feel like the more people push against you the harder you defend I think something when I feel like I'm not when I feel like I'm not
right. Not just to be different.
Okay. If I feel like I'm right, oh yeah, you're not going to move me off my square if I feel like
I'm right. Oh, I know. My literal job description is to move you off your square when you feel
like you're right. That ain't going to happen. I feel like you're pushing a fire hydrant right. When you
like I ain't moving. I ain't moving, baby, D. I ain't budging. Fuck that. Oh my God. Well, listen,
NBA season has started. Yes, sir. And you know that we have a big sports audience. And I want
to understand sports more. Do you? I do. Is your boyfriend watch sports?
He does.
What's his team?
I actually can't.
You don't know nothing about this, nigga.
That's not true.
That's not true.
I don't think he's in.
I think his favorite team is as, so he kind of like gave up on him.
So I don't think he's ever been like proud enough to tell me.
Oh, he's one of those.
Yeah, I think, yeah.
He ruled in silence.
I think he just, he likes sports.
So he watches all the teams.
So I actually don't know who his favorite team is.
Okay.
But I'm seeing on the notes, Josh has Wimby and I'm assuming he means Wimbianna.
Victor Wynbanyama.
Winbanyama.
Now is he from Africa?
He's from Paris.
He's from Paris.
Okay.
It says Wimby is an alien.
Yes.
And I put on their mall, please explain this to me like I'm five.
Okay.
So you know the aliens exist, right?
Okay.
One of them now playing San Antonio.
Okay.
Okay.
Spurs.
San Antonio Spurs.
Okay.
He's seven foot six.
Wow.
He speaks French.
Oh, this is a sick type of alien that got running around.
The nigger can do everything, baby.
I've never seen anybody.
Again, y'all know how I feel.
Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player ever.
Limby second?
No, he's not second yet.
But his skill set at his size, you know, just in layman's terms, baby, we've never seen nothing like this.
So, like, so he can play like five and one?
He can play every position on the floor.
Okay.
Yes.
He can, he can, last night I saw him block three shots, get the rebound, take one dribble over half court, and shoot a three.
I don't I've we're talking about seven foot six
for somebody to be seven foot six moving the way he's moving
and doing the things we've never seen this type of athleticism
this type of skill now they have been big men that have skills
but wimby the one the one skills that I think a lot of people don't talk about
is his his balance he's not as you know a lot of big men are usually like kind of like
doofy yeah
Like the New York skyscrapers, the taller they build them, they sway in the wind.
Yeah, but his balance, his feel for the game, he's just fun to watch because you know that we've never seen nothing like this, so you have to appreciate it.
That one clip I saw of him blocking three shots and then pushing the break and shooting the three, he looked like Bill Russell on one end and Kevin Durant on the other.
I don't know if I've ever felt like that looking at any player.
Like, to me, you know, Shaquille O'Neal, when he came in seven feet, whatever, you know, he was very, a lot of people don't remember how athletic shack was in Orlando.
Very athletic, the rebound the ball, push to break, go coast to coast.
With the Lakers, it became more of a post-up, just use your power and kind of just bully people.
But to be seven foot six in doing what when Miami is doing, we've never seen nothing like this.
So this is a name that you're going to hear hopefully for years.
I tweeted, if his body holds up for 10 years,
because with guys, seven of six, they usually...
Knee start.
A knee injury, a foot injury changes their whole trajectory.
So if his body, you know, hopefully his body holds up 10 years,
I think that he's a top five player all time.
Yeah, so this is the play.
Look at him.
One block, right?
Block again.
Right?
Then he gets to his, they get the rebound.
They give it right to him.
Count the dribbles.
One, two, three jump shot.
So three dribbles from one end, cross half court to a three.
And you seven foot six, we've never, I've never seen nothing like this.
And again, we've seen big Kevin Durand is probably seven feet, six 11.
We've seen that skill set, you know, being tall and being able to shoot and rebound.
We've never seen seven, six doing that.
How old is he?
He looks young.
21?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
He should be.
He's the future. He's the future in the NBA. I think with him and Luca, the NBA is, you know, they're good. But then again, these are, these are guys that are not American players. So do you think he could take the spurs all the way? Oh, absolutely. He's about, they get another piece around him. They're going to, they're going to make some noise in the Western Conference for sure. Well, just him, just this team right now, if he stays healthy, it's going to be hard to beat them. How have the Knicks been doing? Have they played yet?
The Knicks look good. The Knicks are good. I think they two and oh.
Oh, two and one.
To who, who they lose to?
Okay.
They lost to Miami.
Who does Miami even have?
Norm Polly and Wiggins.
They lost to Andrew Wiggins and Bam out of bio.
Oh, my God.
The Knicks.
See, that's what piss me off for the Knicks.
They lose the games.
They should win.
But the Knicks look good, though.
I think they're going to have another good run.
Again, all of this is if everybody stays healthy.
Is Halliburton still out?
Halliburton's out for the year.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Prayers and condolences.
I hope he healed up well.
Prayers and condolences.
After the fist pump,
that's not how that's supposed to go, baby, D.
Yo, they tore me up because remember when he was playing,
I was like wishing bad at him and then he tore his ace.
You know how you fuck your boyfriend head up?
How?
Show up with a victim one, but y'all, I'm a jersey dress on.
Now I just got to get the oversized jersey like it belonged to somebody else.
To Victor?
You want to put on a shirt?
Victor went Mayama Santa
Telling the Spurs
wedding dress
That's gonna be long
That shit will be long
As a motherfucker on you baby
D.
Put that shit on
and just be in the kitchen
quickly with that shit
No,
no I told, did I ever tell you
the time?
I told you my cousin
was playing for the Giants
and I had his practice jersey
on and that shit
That's a fight
That shit was like
I'm my nigga
Am I pussy?
Yeah like that's a fight
Like I don't care
who your cousin
Take that off
I got a jersey
I played a DWMCA
Go put my shit on
Like take this nigga jersey off
Okay well I will stay
updated maybe we can go catch a game yeah we catch some nick again oh maybe we can do that for for our for
our patreon vlog episode go to a game well not an actual game we go to like a bar and watch a game
you get wine watch a basketball with wine is fire you don't know no nigger like it see stop
playing with me yes sometimes niggas be like you ain't never met a nigger like me and i'm like
thank god like i don't like i don't that ain't the case with me you know you should be honored
to be like yo me and mom went to watch this nigga ordered a whole bottle cabinet we was chilling
steak i had a steak i had a steak i had a steak i
Oh, you know red wine or steak go to you.
Niggas don't even got your palate together.
That's the problem now.
First of all, I was drinking red wine and steak, baby, when I was 21.
That's, I don't even eat red meat like that.
I'm a heal of my body.
That don't count.
Outback.
Like, I was at Peter Lugar.
Don't, you got me fucked up.
You got me fucked up, sweetie.
That's what I want you to do.
Get such shit off.
You got me fucked up.
You got me fucked up.
You got me fucked now.
Your baby, then Sylvia Brown is a fraud.
Remember we talked about her last week?
I do.
laughed at her. All the videos are coming out now. She said somebody was dead. She said somebody's
son was dead. The mother ended up dying us or committing suicide, something like that.
Come to find out the son wasn't dead.
Sylvia Brown is who used to do. What show was that? She was a medium. She was on a bunch of
talks about her back in the day. Montel Williams. And you know, people used to ask her like,
yo, my loved ones. We haven't seen him. He's dead. He drowned.
Yeah, we did talk about that. Come to find out fraud.
Come to find out. Y'all didn't think that.
No, I mean, I knew that.
That's why I was laughing at those clips because I'm like, how somebody just stand up
and tell you some shit like that and you just get all heartbroken?
You don't know this lady?
Yeah, he's dead.
Yes, he's dead.
Oh, my God.
Thank you.
What?
No evidence, nothing that my loved one is dead.
You just say it and I just break down.
Like, I could have said that to you in the parking lot.
Now, I would have got arrested for that.
Mm-hmm.
Here comes Sylvia Brown.
She's a medium on the stage and her word is go.
Kind of find out Sylvia Brown was a fraud.
I just thought it was hilarious that now.
of these videos are going viral of her, like, being wrong.
And people weren't dead that she said was dead.
That's, is she still, is she a lot?
Is she alive?
No, she passed away some years ago.
Okay.
Do we have voicemails?
You've got mail.
We do.
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What's good, Rory?
What's good, Mom?
What's going on, Baby D?
Roy here.
I fuck with the pod.
Thank you.
You doing what y'all doing.
Quick question.
This is for Baby D.
Okay.
34 years old, single.
I just moved out here to Syracuse, maybe like five months ago,
got a job with the university, working in their athletic department,
and was just wondering, you know, as a single man,
if you knew any spots of where I could go, where women would be at,
or where I can meet some beautiful women.
I joined the Syracuse Run Club out here.
Oh, shout out to the Run Club.
I met some great people, but I feel like that's a weird place to kind of shoot my shot.
But yeah, just wanted to see if you had any suggestions.
I don't know how in tune you are still with Syracuse,
but I thought I'll at least try next.
All right, thanks.
Well, thank you for calling and shout out to Syracuse.
Well, first of all, DM me, because I think I got a friend for you.
How good is the job?
Oh, you moved out for the job.
It's a good job.
All right.
I got a friend for you.
Light skin, cute, big tities.
She don't got fat ass, but she got big tities in a pretty ass face.
Long curly hair.
Yeah, that average is out.
Long curly hair.
That's like I have been 20 and 10 right there.
And school to be a nurse on her own house.
So DM me, because I got a friend for you.
But if you are looking for other women, you would have to go downtown Syracuse and scout around.
Now, if you want to hoodb bitches at, again, DME, I'll direct you there.
But if you just want regular women, you're going to have to go downtown and go to like brunches.
And follow somebody named Anthony Dickens on Facebook because he throws an R&B night.
And that's also where you would go to fire women.
Arm B night is a good night to find out.
She's singing too hard.
She's singing a little too hard when that married.
Oh, yeah, she's heart-roving.
She's overly going.
I could fix it.
Like, Stefan Toe Cardi, let me fix you.
Let me heal you.
He got that old.
He got that all.
Stefan Dix got that off.
Amen.
Oh, my God.
Amen.
You know, as I get older and I talk to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Reminis.
I talk to more men and I see the things that y'all see that we don't notice that
y'all are seeing.
Like, I remember when my.
my boyfriend. I was like, what even made you that confident to like, because he just
applied so much pressure. He said, on our FaceTime call you was moving and you was packing up
your house by yourself in and all your IG pictures you had just turned your hair red. I knew you
was heartbroken. I was just moving in like, I knew it was a perfect. I had a small window.
I knew you was fucked up. He was waiting for any nigga that looked like he had his shit
together. Yeah, all right. Okay. Let's let's let's go down. He got his shit together. He opened
the car door for me, girl. It'd be crazy to shit that child like. Don't do that. I just opened the
car door. That's the expectation though.
Yeah, but that's, but still, like you.
Now, you sent a driver, he sent the driver, and the driver opened the car door
and waited outside the restaurant in case I wanted to leave the date.
You do that and you still, I still don't get no pussy.
It's like, there ain't no nigga ever since you know.
It's worth the wait.
Yeah, sometimes.
Ma, don't.
Let's just be real.
Ma.
You waited.
What I waited for?
You've waited for sex before.
Oh, yes, I have.
Yeah.
And it was not where, blah, blah, blah.
Was it worth it all every time?
No, no.
You know it's crazy.
The first time it felt like it was worth to wait.
And then the second time, that shit wasn't.
Wait, explain it though.
What you mean the first time?
It's like when you were starving lying, you know what I'm saying?
And somebody give you a berry.
It's like damn, this berry tastes like gazelle.
But then when you go to eat the berry again, this shit.
This berry tastes like gazelle is fucking hilarious.
This berry tastes like gazelle.
This berry tastes like fucking gazelle.
When you been starving.
When you been starving?
Yeah.
And then you go to eat that bear again.
Now this shit just berry.
Yeah, this shit just buries.
This shit just kicks in berries.
Get out of here with this shit.
I need gazelle.
Yeah.
I thought you was a style.
You tricked me.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, sometimes it don't be worth the weight, though, but, you know.
But, you know.
I'm glad you have a girl from him, though.
Hopefully you can make the connection now.
But if you do, we got to get them on the Zoom.
If he got to be fine, though, because she, she, you know me.
First thing I look at is, are you a gentleman and do you have money?
And then I'll look at your looks.
She look at looks first.
Why she's single?
See?
She listens to this podcast too
Don't do that.
No, I'm not shit, no what I'm saying
She's just looking at looks
I try to put her on with you
Man, I try to put her on with a baller
A trick
A trick, he was overly spending
And he was ugly as ugly as fuck
But like she
I respect her
That's gangster
Like if you got a nigga
She says she can't fake it
Gangster
Because if you got a nigga that's tricking
And you still like
Man watch out
Like that means she icy
She cold
She's like, nigga, you ugly.
I don't care how much money you spend it.
You're trash.
I like that.
Because it used to be about that.
I don't care much money.
That nigga is ugly.
Nadi since we running around with these dusties,
I'm like, will you find this dustball?
Oh, he got money.
Oh, okay.
I understand it.
I get it.
But I like the fact that there's still women out there.
But he's sweet too, though.
Like, you're not going to find a perfect nigga.
No.
I think my nigga is perfect.
But otherwise, you're not going to find a perfect.
Don't say, we're going to time stamp this.
I'm not wishing bad on.
I'm happy that you happy baby D
Don't do that.
But if, listen,
if I allow Wilson to have,
inshallah,
if you not together a year from now,
I'm running this clip back.
Because you're going to be in here
tearing that nigga up a year.
No, you know how I get down.
I bash niggas.
I come on my platform.
That's what I'm saying.
So I'm happy that you happy.
It looks good on you.
But I'm just saying
next year in November.
When I say perfect,
I don't mean literally perfect.
But what I mean is,
okay, you got money,
you fine.
And you're a gentleman.
It's very hard to find.
That's like the Holy Trinity right.
Holy Trinity.
You know what I'm saying?
He ain't perfect by no means.
Yeah, nobody's perfect.
Close enough.
But he's perfect to me.
Exactly.
So that's why I be telling her, I'm like, you're not going to find everything in one that's
very hard.
It can happen, but it's hard.
29?
She got time.
She right there.
She should be turning that corner of settling down trying to like get serious with
somebody.
But 29, she can still playouts out a little bit.
Yeah.
She can still afford to do that.
Yeah.
This nigga, well.
Like, I don't know.
I'm 31.
I'm looking.
I'm like, I can't settle for ugly though because my family don't have no ugly people in it.
We go out of our way not to have ugly people.
That's a sick go out of the way.
Like, we go out of our way not to have ugly people.
I can't be the first one to bring a little gremlin into the family.
I can't do that.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't want that as my part of the family legacy.
I'm already the one that didn't get like the traditional job.
Like I'm not a lawyer or a nurse or a doctor or a professional fucking football player
like the rest of them like I'm a podcaster so I already don't bring that much to the table I can bring a little gremlin to the family just all I got next to my the emojis next to my name is like the little scary mask and a mic I can we can do that yeah yeah because if you got an ugly baby you got to kill it okay all right well thank you guys so much for tuning in and that's the only voicemail we got that's the only voice smell we're doing really yeah I'm kind of
kind of scared.
All right, let's play it.
Fuck you. Come on.
Let's play it.
Hey, I'm Thomas from Chicago.
Responding to the last message
we got sent about me being in love
of my best friend who lives in Texas.
Oh!
Took an account, like, what Damaris said
and what Mom said as well, like, you know,
going after and going after to be
with my wife and DeMaris also
saying to just, you know, that was just
like a one-time thing. I mean, I don't
know. I'm planning to see her again in December
and essentially I'm guessing that when I see her
again, I'll get like a full gauge of like how she really feels about me.
I do feel like she really does care about me.
I don't think that she does care for me in the same way that I care for her because I really
do love her.
And, you know, she says she loves me too.
Like I made her feel things.
Like she, the way she describes how she feels about me, it sounds like she's saying that she is
in love with me, but she's just not saying that I'm in love with you specifically.
Again, because of circumstance and everything that we're both encountering of just like, you
know, being far away and, like, trying to figure out our lives and stuff.
You know, and it kind of makes me beg to question, like, wonder, like, you know,
maybe she doesn't feel the same way.
But, you know, we'll see.
Like, when I get down there, we'll, like, basically do, like, a trial run of, like,
a relationship or something.
Like, I'll be down there for four days or something for Christmas.
And, you know, we'll just see how everything goes.
Again, not really sure how she feels yet.
But, I mean, I guess I have doubts just because of where we're at.
But I don't know.
I'm trying to keep hope alive with everything.
anything.
That nigga said I'm trying to keep hope alive.
He called a Jesse Jackson.
You going down four days before Christmas,
nigga, that gift better gift.
Nah,
that gift better gift.
He don't even know if she liked him like that,
but he didn't have a gift?
She won't if he don't bring her gift.
Nah,
see, I don't like that.
Well, first of all, it's her best friend.
If I'm spending four days,
if I'm going to see my best friend four days,
he's got a gift of it for sure.
He's giving me a gift.
But it's you saying that gift better gift is like,
why?
She don't even know if she's into him like that.
So why would you give somebody something when it's like,
you know how you feel about her,
but you don't know if she feels the way you feel about her towards you?
It's like you can't go heavy gift.
What would you get to gift your way into a relationship?
What would your gift suggestion be?
It's an offering.
What would your gift suggest to be?
Well, me, like if it's a woman that I,
you want and y'all already best.
Well, I would be paying attention to conversation
and things that she's saying she's kind of been.
iron looking at
Rick Owens' boots
See him
What she need
You know shit like that
I don't know if she need
Rick Owens boots
You need a new fridge
This motherfucker
Every time I go on there
For a motherfucking drink
Light off
No the handle was in my hand
When I close that
Like fuck them Rick Owens boots
I'm listen
Answer the fucking
The man is coming
With the fridge
Tomorrow
Yeah
Shit like that
Rick Owens boots
Costs cost a new fridge
For sure
Yeah
I'm going to get you a fridge, baby.
I ain't you'll get you no Rick Owens' boots.
Get you a new fridge.
Let's start there.
But yeah, pay attention to, you know, a woman that you're courting and that you like.
Pay attention to conversation, things that she may be talking about looking at.
Like, that's how you get the perfect get.
Because that's the sentiment you pay, that's showing how you pay attention.
You remember, like, okay, cool, yeah, I'm going to help you.
Like, this is something that is going to last.
You know what I'm saying?
New fridge?
She's probably going to outlive you.
Okay.
Yeah, so shit like that.
That's what I would do.
But like...
Well, we're wishing luck to this man.
Please keep us update.
He left two more voicemails, but we'll get into those...
Maybe we'll do that on Patreon or something.
No, Patreon, yeah.
Yeah.
We can do that?
Because we, because I...
But do we want to say...
Okay, so we'll Zoom Zoom room before he goes home for the holiday?
Okay.
And then Zoom Zoom Zoom room after the holiday to just check in on him and see how things played
out.
Okay.
That's cool.
All right, baby Dee.
This has been real good talking to you.
We're doing this two more times this week.
Yeah.
Our Patreon, we don't go out of date.
Finally.
I'm taking you to the movies, baby.
Finally.
Take you to the fucking movies.
Okay.
All right, we'll be back in a couple days.
Be safe.
Be blessed.
I'm that nigga.
That's baby Dee.
Period.
A win is a win.
A win.
I don't care what I'm saying.
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