New Rory & MAL - Episode 423 | Give Me Spaces

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Off rip we address the elephant in the room. Rory apologizes for how he acted on Twitter Spaces, and Mal has his back. Then, does Kevin Gates deserve the heat he’s getting for dating younger women? Rory and Mal give Big Sean props for sticking up for Jhene despite not addressing the rumor that they’re broken up. Demaris has more questions about Klay Thompson. Plus, Mal gives a shoutout to Jade Cargill for becoming WWE Women’s Champion, and a caller wants no parts of his wife’s friend’s drama #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The volume. Welcome back. Happy end of the week. How's everybody feeling? Good. I had an interesting morning, but I'm good.

Yeah. They shut all the water off in your building. It shut off my building. You could go a day. I thought those days were far behind me. Did they finally figure it out? Were you able to shower and brush your teeth? One thing I will say, the time that they said the water would be back on, it was back on at that time.

Okay. I'm just, I wish they would have notified us yesterday. Gotcha. Instead of this morning. Yeah, I'm just making sure you wouldn't sit in here with swamp ass and, you know, you were feeling a little, little better. No, I would have called out. I'm not coming in with swamp ass.

Would you brush your teeth here? Yeah. There was a couple toothbrushes in there a few times, which I always found, like, odd. Why? Nobody brushed their teeth before they came to work. I said the same thing about it being a bunch of deodorant. I was like, yeah, you know, people need deodorant. Well, sometimes you forget to put on deodorant if, like, you're in a rush.

I don't forget to brush my teeth, though. you do. Okay. Well, I'm glad we could provide community toothbrushes for, they weren't labeled either. I didn't even know. It's your mouth stink and your underarm stink. You come to Ram Studios and take care of that. For sure. We are sponsored by Boost. We have merch on sale right now at new Rorymall.com for $5 a month on Patreon. You can hear all of these episodes ad free. Also, unless Pige forgets to upload the ad free. Yeah, unless Pige does forget to add load the wrong. Pete doesn't forget. It will be at. So direct all your anger to Pige in that regard.

Yes. But also, if you're listening to this on a Friday, today, we have a live stream at 8 p.m. on Patreon.com forward slash numerous more than all. Got some people from the Discord coming. Yes, Kai should not. We'll be in the building. He's not in our Discord. He's not our Discord.

I saw other day Kai's taking a break from streaming. He needs break. I'm happy for him. He's popping up in random places with people taking pictures of him. I'm like, okay. That's dope. He was on stream for how many, how long? I think four years.

Straight? Yes. But it is dope to see, you know, Kai step away and enjoy himself a little bit because he did. He has worked very hard in that space. So shout out to the Bronx. Any time I get a chance to shout out of the Bronx legend. He is a Bronx legend, though. I agree with you there.

Shout out to Kai. Where do we want to begin? I mean, your morning was probably less interesting than mine, but, you know. You had an interesting morning as well? Something like that. Oh. You know. What happened with your morning?

You know, the Twitter streets go. Listen, man, I went into Twitter spaces against all my friends. You like that shit. You think I'm a glutton for punishment? Yes. I think you're a glutton for punishment. I think you're a glutton for attention. I think you're a glutton for bullshit.

For attention? I don't know about that. It's not cloud. I don't want it to seem cloud chasing. It's not that. But you do like when it's bullshit happening and your name is in it. Like, you dive right into that shit. Like, you like abuse.

I think it's more so to address things. But I did. You like to seem like a martyr? I wouldn't go that far. A martyr is a little. You wouldn't seem like a martyr for the culture. I'll take this one on the chin, fellas. Don't worry about it.

This is not one that I want to take on the chin whatsoever. But yes, I did go into Twitter spaces. I don't think my intentions came off the correct way. Because I was in there to get my talking to. Why? But when I woke up this morning and listened back to some of it, I sounded very, very dismissive. in the beginning.

As you should have been. No, because there were some people in there. Because I was on the side of like, everybody knows. The people that know me know who I am and know what it is. Which is why you shouldn't be talking about it. But there were people in there that don't know me and were actually searching for an actual response or reply. And I was, I'm not saying.

We got to stop saying that. Can I finish please? They weren't searching for shit. They were searching for attention. They were searching to go back and forth with you so they can clip it and put it on their YouTube channels. That's all they were searching. I think there's definitely people answers.

Nobody was heard. Nobody's children didn't eat last night as a result of tweets that you tweeted fake tweets 12 years ago. So it's not that serious. I agree with you that there was definitely people in there with just that intention. But there were some people that were generally just looking for an answer. And I apologize for being dismissive to those people in particular that were just looking for an answer to what some of those tweets and fake retweets and all that was. So I do apologize because I did come off dismissive to some people that did not deserve. that that were just saw something out of context and was like, yeah, what's up with this? And I was a little

condescending and dismissive in the beginning. About 20, 30 minutes in, I started to realize, oh, shit, all right, we're not doing the joke shit anymore. And at that point, everyone was texting me, get the fuck out of the spaces. And I felt like it was too late then. I got to just stay here, because if I run, it's even worse. But I handled that spaces very poorly. I will say that. You are correct about the space. Okay. I'm saying me personally, after I listened to the space, I felt bad of how I handled being dismissive in the beginning. That's all. So I wanted to apologize to that.

Why were you being dismissing? Because when it started, there was, I know people don't understand the term fake retweet, but at a time on Twitter, people would do, they would type out retweet. Someone's at to make it look like they said something when you were battling back and forth on Twitter. I was there. So when that was popped up, yes, I was laughing about it. And I was dismissive and then, you know, people have every right to feel away with or without context.

Like I'm not here to argue that. I'm just here to say I handled the spaces poorly. That's all. I guess it's just like a, again, I'm going to just keep going to the age difference between you and me. I can empathize with somebody looking at my white face in this space for so long, having opinions and then seeing those tweets and being like, yo, what the fuck? I can see the outrage with it. I'm not here saying like, yo,

what's, like, why are y'all so mad? I'm not here to say that, but I mean, the one they're the most outraged about was not in the context that they're making it seem.

But with that said, I understand why everyone's outraged. Yesterday, I just was in a different mind state and I was being a fucking dick. Because I thought it was laughable to, for somebody to call me a raging racist.

But this morning, I did too. But this morning, with a different lens and in a good night's sleep, yeah, I sounded like a fucking asshole. Hmm. So, you know, I apologize for that, for sure.

You had to apologize to all the victims? I'm not, see, don't put words in my mouth. You had to apologize to everyone that was offended and was hurt. Sure, if somebody was offended by that, I do apologize. All right, I mean, you know, if that's, you know, how you feel, I'm cool. But, I mean, you know. I'm just saying, can you do me a favor from now on? Don't go in spaces.

Exactly. Listen, man. Just that simple. Why are you going to spaces? And that wasn't even your spaces to go in. That's true. You just walk in. You just walk in the dumb shit.

Like how you just bump your head on bullshit all the time? And throughout the entire thing, I was just making it worse. Like I didn't go in there and make anything better. I just continued. Anytime it even got like to an okay place, I made it 10 times worse. I'm all for spaces when it's like a group of people that's having like a real conversation about some real shit. It's like, okay, cool, this is a cool. But you could just tell when there's people in the room that just want to have a moment.

It's like, I'm not talking to you. I'm not, who are? Who is this? Please. Sorry. Who is this? Who is this? Show me your bed, nigger.

I want to see your bed before you talk to me. Don't talk to me until I see your sheets. Don't talk to me until I see your bathroom. I felt, like, when Ma'll be like, yo, just like, get off the phone. That's what I got, I just got off the phone. I just got off the phone and like went to the club. And I was like, oh, none of these niggas would ever be in here. That's not a real thing.

It's not real. The internet is not real. It's not real place. What are we talking about? Like that shit is not. Now, in the same vein, I will say, I've met some really cool people. For sure. Via social media over the years that I, you know, salute to them.

And some of us are like really close friends and have great relationships to this day. So you do align with certain people that, you know, you end up having a lot in common with and they understand you and things like that. So shout out to them. I'm never speaking to them. I appreciate those people. But the people that you know is just looking for a moment and just looking for something to be mad about

and something to be offended about. I don't have time to talk to those people. Those are the same people that feel like the white man got their foot on their neck. I ain't got time for that. I don't want to talk to those people. And I understand you feeling that way, but you also have to look at the other side of my white face.

Yes, people can be outraged if I make, and no pun intended, an off-colored joke. Like, that's fine. They can be upset. I get it. I just went and went. It's a choice.

It's a choice to be upset about that. And I mean, I apologize if you are. And if, I can't, if, I can never be mad at you for being, you know, a racist. No, nice guy. Well, that too. If you're racist, I can't. Listen, that's your prerogative. But I mean, like, that's your personal business.

It's your business. If you racist, that doesn't affect me at all. But I don't know, man. I just, you know, people are just. We got to get past certain things. Like certain things that continue to be conversations to me is just like, it's almost like clockwork. You can almost tell, like you can tell when a girl about to ask you for some money.

Like never talk to a girl from the 21st of the month to the second. She's say, I'm stressed out. She's going to start huffing and puffing. After two huffs, hang up because the third huff, she's going to be like, if she needs something that's going to cost you, you know. Talk to women from the ninth to the 18th of each month. Yo, I just realized I definitely, I'd be like, yeah, I ain't got time for that.

Once you start doing that. And it's debate, too, because you're like, yo, what's wrong, you're right? I got a lot. I got so much going on. Stress, like. I'm stressed. Yeah.

And then, you know, you want to seem concerned. Now all of a sudden, her mom's sick. I'm like, but you just horny. But you got to seem concerned. Like, what's wrong, baby? Talk to me. Yo, the worst thing is. They went up $200 on my rent.

That-da-da, I got to pay my car note. I ain't got a time, man. The worst thing is the premature, how can I help you out? Before you, before you're even thinking, she's thinking monetarily. Like, yeah, what you need? Like, how can I help? I'm here. What you need?

You need a ear? Like, what's up? I don't know. It's just like rent is getting crazy. You know that like rent is every month, right? Writ is getting crazy. That shit is every month. Every month is crazy.

It gets crazy. It gets crazy every month. If you never, like, met me, how was you going to pay rent? man she got four of the niggas like you on the line somebody and they all paid it so somebody said they they get five niggas to send four hundred dollars rent paid but see that's my thing i'd rather like be in a timeshare with a bunch of other guys than don't don't say your rent is 2,500 and you ask four different guys for 2,500 for your rent like now put us in a time share let's all split this let's bust it down the crib or the push I meant the payment for the rent oh okay

I haven't paid a girl's rent, but for joke, for joke references. I thought you said Tom She had a pussy. Not, if you're, if you want me to pay your rent and you're also talking to another dude about him paying the rent, like, let us split it 50-50. Don't get $2,500 from both. You're definitely not the only person that she's talking to about her rent. I'm sure. Well, that's why I don't pay rents. Yeah.

You're definitely. You know, I just pay mortgages. Yeah. I mean, listen, man, I understand it. I get it. It's cheaper to keep her, man. What does that have to do that? I'm just saying if a woman is up and a puffing on.

on your phone. Sometimes you just got like, how much is it? Because you ain't about to keep breathing in my ear. Like, how much? What? All right, cool. Yeah. Hey, listen. I've only paid rent.

If you fuck with her like that. When I was in a relationship. Yeah. That's the only time I've ever been. Yeah. If it's your girl, then absolutely. But if it's somebody, you're just trying to get to know. She's saying she's stressed and she don't know, you know when she's going to see you again

because she got to make some plays. So, here. Yeah. Just bring that ass over here. Sometimes, baby D, I'm at that point. Sometimes it's just like your hair, man. We ain't got to keep having these frivolous conversations. You're huffing in my ear all night. So much you should.

I'm stressed now. Now I'm stressed. Now I hang up. I'm feeling stressed out. Is that tricking? Have we gotten more to finally admit that maybe he's tricked? No, I'm saying if that was the case, then yeah, that is tricking. Okay.

Yeah, I don't, I haven't done that. Oh, okay. I thought you were suggesting when she huffs and puffs. Like, here you go. No, if. Just come, come over. If you choose to, me, I get off the phone. I hang out.

I act like, the game is, I'm like, yo, listen, this Warriors game is crazy. I call you back. Steph got 40 in the second quarter. I start saying all kind of shit. That's what Paul lay about in? Wait, your rent due on the first two? So is mine.

That's crazy that we both. Like, yo, we're so aligned. Oh, shit. Hold on. Let me sit. Let me pay my friend. You just do that in too? We got the same landlord?

Yeah, you throw all that energy. I throw it right back. Like, I'm huffing and puffing two. Shit. He both got asthma. That fast. Listen, I'm crazy, but I don't know if I'm as crazy as Kevin Gates. Did y'all see that clip that I put in the group chat?

I did see a clip of Kevin Gates and I've seen people killing them. Now, before we get into this, how old is the woman? I think it may say it in the tweets, maybe. All right, so what are you six? Okay, that's not a terrible age. Yeah, would they kill the world though? All right, well, before Josh plays it, it was a wild switch from when he was with, what's shorty that they broke?

Britney Runner. when like, you know, made her convert. He married. They were mad. Like, yeah. And, I mean, he was, he was not only his dean at all. Now it's kind of like, wait, what the fuck just happened? Well, that 180.

Well, in this clip he was saying, don't nobody want nothing that's washed up. You don't want no washed up woman that's, you know, whatever. Have you wanted to say what washed it means whether she was passed around by a bunch of guys. I believe that's what he was suggesting. He was saying washed up in reference to the age. That's why they were killing. They were killing him for dating a younger woman. and he said, don't know why I want no washed up girl because apparently older women are older girls are washed up.

How old is he probably like 36, 37? 37? He probably like 30. Yeah, 37, 38. Plenty of 37 young women that are not washed up. No, for 100%. So that's what I'm saying. I don't think it was that.

When you say wards, I think he meant like you didn't have been through the wringer. Like, you didn't have been passed around. Okay. But I mean, I could be wrong. I don't know the context of it. I could be wrong. But it's coming from them saying, why are you dating such a young woman? And the response is, I don't want no washed up girl.

that's why I'm dating younger. I have heard the misogynistic theory from men that say they don't date older women because if they're single, they've been ran through through their 20s and 30s. That's why they don't. That's why they try to find a young. Well, if he said it like that, he's not talking about that because I'm not saying Kevin Gates to say that.

He's young 24, 24, 25, they be passed around like Avis renter cars. Like, he can't be. He can't be. Yeah, by 21, there's a lot. Yeah, it got to just be the age he's talking about. Like, and I mean, are people killing them because, I mean, 26, 30, 38? I don't think that's that crazy. That's not much of it. I thought she was like 20 or 21 or some shit. Yeah, that's not 26 and you 30, what is he 38? 39. That's not crazy. Can we play the clip though?

Just for giggles? Man, don't know nigga want no old washed up as bitch, man. What nigga don't want a young ho, man? Young ho? Okay. You don't like it. Eat my dick, man. Straight off. You saw her face when you say young ho. What nigga want something that been, you heard, man? What my body goes, my nigga have an idiot. I have emotion. We ain't going to the youth call line, man. Use call out. See, so you saying?

In reference to older women. Hey, bitch, yeah. Nicker damn the year. Nick old enough to be your daddy, yeah. It's funny that that's what we're trying to debate here and not that he just screamed young ho right in her face. Old enough to be your daddy. Like, I don't know about that bar, Kevin.

I don't know. I can't back you on that bar right there. I ain't trying to fuck with nobody. I'm old enough to be their daddy. I'm not doing, I'm not doing that. But he's not old enough to be her father. Wait, but if, all right, you're 42? Four.

44. What's 44 minus 15? 29. You dated 29, you're old. Absolutely. You're old enough to be a dad. All right. You're right.

I could have had a kid at 15. Yeah. That's possible. That is possible. It happens a lot, actually. It is fucking crazy. Yes. It's tough to have a child that's 15 years old.

I wouldn't say that's the best route to go. Yes, it's possible. As long as you're producing sperm and... But I don't think it's crazy to have a kid at 15 because I lost my virginity at 14 and did not know what I was doing. I could have easily not pulled out in the right time. That's crazy to lose your virginity at 40th.

Oh, I agree with that. I've spoken about that before. I think losing your virginity at 14 is crazy. Getting pregnant at 15 is crazy. But like, you don't know how to... You don't know what you're doing at that point. It's easy to nut by accident inside. Oh, no, no, no, for sure.

But I'm just saying the point stands up it would be crazy if you came home at 15. and told your mother that you got a girl pregnant. That would be absolutely crazy. So, yes, if a woman is 29 and I'm dating her, yes, technically I could have had a kid when she was born, yes. Yeah. But what if this school has a pregnancy pack? You ever saw that Lifetime movie?

Pregnancy Pact? We Google Pregnancy Pact, Josh? Demaris, I know you've seen Pregnancy Pact. I know what a pregnancy pact is. Do they still have daycares in schools? Like a high school? I mean, I'm sure and certain. I'm sure and certain, yeah.

I remember that was the thing. When I wasn't my freshman year, I couldn't believe that shit fucked me up. I said, who's kid? I thought it was the teacher's kids. Walk past a room with a bunch of kids. I was like, who's going? They was like, no, some girls in the co-ed. They, like, their kids?

I mean, we had a few girls that were pregnant for sure in high school, would never enough that there needed to be, like, child services there. A pregnancy pact is an agreement typically among teenage girls to become pregnant and raise their children together. The term became widely known following in 2000. an eight media frenzy surrounding a reported incident at a high school in Gloucester. Is that how you say it? Gloucester.

Gloucester. Gloucester. Gloucester. Gloucester. Gloucester. Chester Shias off of Massachusetts. I think isn't that where a, my blank on his name. He's suing Vlad right now.

Ironically, I'm not racist. Joyna Lupus. Oh, Jonah. Okay. I think he's from there. Okay. But yeah, they did a whole like series on Lifetime about that high school. Join it and rap about this shit.

He's from... I apologize, Joyner, by it. He could be from a different town of Massachusetts. I'm really... He's from Worchester. Warchester, Shire. All right. That's easy to get confused with Gloucester,

Worcester. No, it's not. It's two totally different names. It's not. That's your shit. Wait, isn't Gloucester where the perfect storm was? I love that movie. Now, that sounds familiar.

I think that was. Or somebody in there was from that part of the town. Which is wow, man. Oh, yeah, see? The fact that's... The ADHD is not that bad. Sometimes it works in my favor. Sometimes it doesn't.

I love the perfect store. Great movie. Is that a white thing? No. Okay. It was a black guy on the boat. That is true. So it can't be a white thing.

See, we have representation there. Then they brought up Mark Wahlberg's old tweets. That he said out loud. He wasn't in those spaces. He's still hosting the Academy Awards. He didn't have to be. to go in those spaces. Yo, can you imagine being in the lunchroom with your crew and finding out you was part

of the pregnancy pact and didn't even know it? Yeah, that's five of your friends like, wait, they conspired to do this? Yeah, that's great. So, all right, so Kevin Gates, they're mad at him, baby, Dee, for saying that. Does he have to go on the spaces tonight? I'm just trying to figure it out. I don't know what's happening right now. I'm just trying to, what are they mad about what he said?

People are upset about what he said. Yes. Kevin, they mad at you too. Get your ass in the spaces tonight. Yeah. Listen, he could start a car with his hands, so he could drive out of here. Kevin Gates, has he ever been in the spaces? That nigger would go crazy.

I think the Kevin Gates podcast. He probably was on Clubhouse at some point. Everybody was at Clown Clubhouse at some point. Yeah, I'm sure. We need Kevin Gates in the spaces. Let's make a spaces and just hope that Kevin Gates just pops in it. Because that's who y'all need to tell. Y'all need to hear from somebody like that.

I feel like, shit, when we sign with volume, they were asking Dream Guests. And we said Kevin Gates was one of the first ones. Absolutely. He would be the greatest podcast for all time. Wack 100 and Kevin Gates had a clubhouse interview. You know, I'm gonna go back and watch that. I'm sure that's one of the most entertaining things in all time. That was during COVID or something?

I guess so. I feel like we missed so many of those during COVID. Like those gyms like that, that would go platinum right now. We were heavy on clubhouse during COVID. Wack 100 completely took it over. Like once outside opened up again, it became Wax Club. Yeah, it's Wack House. 100 entertainment.

like he took over at that point but I would always go on YouTube and find the clips he would do some of the funniest spaces interviews I have to listen to that Kevin So baby D how do you feel about that because you've dated older man Um yes I have dated older men but

I mean he's just some stupid Like it's women that are older than than 25 26 27 are not washed up in random Yeah that's what he was saying he's wrong about it I don't understand why okay so you keep saying If that's what he's saying he literally said They said, he said, why am I dating younger women?

Don't nobody want no old ho? Why wouldn't you want a young thing? He's saying what he's saying. Like, you keep shooting him bail. But he stopped himself. He was about to say that's been ran through. He stopped himself. If you go back to the club.

So you need to go on a young. Yeah, like, that's what I'm saying. Like he said with... That's what he means both. I think he means both, too. That's what he's saying. If you're older, you're ran through because you've had more penis. All right.

Well, I'm saying he's wrong in that. That don't mean just because you older... Because I'm, like I said, these young... 24, 25, 20, man, listen. They've surpassed some of the 40-year-olds. You think Russell Westbrook got jerseys. Some of these 25-Os, they didn't play in every city. Every Eastern Conference, Western All-Star, Pro Bowl, they at all-event.

Oh, my God, are you a season ticket holder? I know how much those seats are. They went to the NFL games in Germany. Yo, yeah, you everywhere. You go on the NBA in London. I mean, that's a good trip. It is a good trip. if you're playing.

Those two teams are not that interesting. You don't want some company with the jet lag. Nobody wanted to see the Knicks versus the Nets in London. Who watching that shit? I don't want to see that shit down the block at the Garden. I'm not going to the Nix and Nets. I'm not flying to London to see the Nix and Nets. So if I see a woman that flew from America to go see the Nix and Nets in London,

I got questions is all I'm saying. I mean, maybe she had some parlays, wanted to see it in person. Yeah, I get it. She should be an avid, check on your parlay in person. Check on your parlays. At his hotel. At his hotel. Yeah, you in this room, check,

how are we feeling tonight? Yeah. Feeling like we're going to cover these eight rebounds or what? Don't get more than seven boys. This shit is crazy, man. But yeah, Kevin, I don't know. Kevin Gates is, you know, he's one of those ones, too, that don't give a fuck what people think about him and what people got to hear about him.

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Delivery available for select devices purchased at BoostMobile.com. Terms apply. We covered the big Sean and Janay thing, even though we had like really no information on it whatsoever. I hate what they did to show him, man. Just a girl behind him. Now all of a sudden he has a new model girlfriend. Like, what if he didn't even know that girl? He didn't.

I don't think he did. I think they cleared up to her actual boyfriend was behind her. Like, once I saw at the Jay Cole show, Aaron Judge take a photo with three women that just walked up to him and said, hey, can we get a photo? And then they walked away. and then the post did a full story of like how he was fucking all these women that he's taking photos I watched him not say a word to those women

and there was a full story about how he was like dating one and this and that so that's why I like feel for Sean when you see it in like person when you see what happened and then see the article it just looks at it makes you look at media

a completely different fucking way yeah but to what you're saying though I've seen dudes not say a word to a girl publicly and they was definitely fucking that girl I've seen it. So the post may have info you don't have young women that took that picture with Aaron Judge.

Then Judge handled that like a smooth quote. He was like, yeah, for sure. They walked in, hey, can we get a picture? And it was like, yeah, of course, they took a photo. And then they walked away. They net, no one spoke ever again. We all just wrapped. I'm just saying I've been in environments like that where.

Well, I've done that. This is what I'm saying. So I don't think that's what I've been in environments at a party. Hey, can I take a picture? homie take a picture don't say another word we get back to the hotel they're already upstairs

how did that happen he must be David Blaine I don't know how that happened he knows magic I don't know judges just wanted to see boss I'm not saying judge I'm not saying Aaron judges

I'm just saying I've seen these high profile celebrities not speak to these women publicly and then get back to the hotel and these women are already key at the front desk already upstairs

I don't know how it happened I'm just saying I've seen it happen. That's what I'm saying. Well, I don't think Sean was dating that woman. I just think she was. No, not saying Big Sean in this case. So it is official that him and Janais are no longer together. I'm looking to Demaris for this one. They cleared up the rumors? They were the clip. The rumor that they cleared up was things that were being said about Jeanne's past. Basically, there was a tweet where somebody was basically saying Big Sean and and Janay have broken up and it's because people are saying that Sean's wasting her time.

And they're like, Jeanne was once married to Dr. Genius and she cheated on her husband with Big Sean. And they just had this whole, they wrote a whole narrative for Jeney's life. So Big Sean retweeted it. Scroll up, Josh. Big Sean retweeted it and basically was like, I hate that y'all are doing this to like Janay. Like I understand y'all writing narratives about me, but I hate that y'all are doing this to her. And it became like a big thing because people were like kind of like, Sean, why would you like retweet that? Because now you just bought more attention to it.

People probably wouldn't have seen it. And then that's when Janay stepped into the shade room to be like, hey, first of all, me and Dot are fine. He never beat me. All of those are rumors. But we just got married too fast. We eloped. We fell in love fast. When I was born in my brother, we eloped.

And then we realized that we had married each other, even though we were strangers. We have no issues, but we separated. Me and Sean got together after a long friendship. Like, it's just kind of like clearing up the rumors of people just saying how toxic their relationship is and all that shit. And people attacking Janay and making it somehow her fault per usual, per misogy. So her and Big Sean are still together? They didn't really address that. They didn't really address it.

I'm assuming they're broken up because they have not cleared up that they have not come on and said we're still together. So. Yeah, Sean basically just said leave for the fuck. Leave her alone. Like what? Yeah. Y'all are being weird. Just leave her out of this entire thing.

Okay. Well, hopefully, you know, whatever they got going on. And that's another thing we do too. See, this is like spaces for Big Sean and Janette. Why are we even told? Who cares? That's their business. I mean, yeah, of course it is.

and their personal business is not our business. I would only speak to it as somebody that wanted part two of 2018. Now we can have that conversation. Are we still getting that? Are we getting that? Are we getting another album? You know what would be really dope? And again, I don't want to play around with their personal life

because I know they have a child together. That's a whole thing, co-parenting. It's a thing. So what if they did like a Love Below speaker box thing where Sean gave his side on one album and then she gave hers on the other? and like lemonade to 444 type of thing, but in the Outcast thing.

And that's the new 288. They don't have to be together to do it. Like they could just give their stuff. I like that. That's like the last season of Marr and when him and Gina couldn't be filming together. They were going through their thing. And then it was making it seem like he was moving to L.A. to BWalk

because she moved L.A. for a new job. Like, yeah, they need to do it like that. Like, you make your album, get your shit off. I'm not going to even listen to it. We don't hear it until it comes out. And then I get my shit off on my side of the album. I like that. So, that's actually some genius shit right there.

Here's the thing. All right, let's debate this. The obvious answer is that Jeney is going to win that because that's Jeney's bag. I would be very, very terrified of Jenae's pen in that regard. Like if we were doing a breakup album versus in that way, Jenae might be top three of all time when it comes to that type of pen. But if you've heard that Bryson Tiller record over the J. Dillard shit, when Sean gets in his breakup bag, he's up there too.

I don't know if this would just be a clear fleece for Jeney, even though we know who she is when it comes to that type of content. I don't know, but you're looking at it like a battle. I'm not looking at it like I just want to hear both sides from each person's perspective on what the relationship. Same. Who's going to do it better? Who's going to do it better is different.

Now, who picks better production? Jeney? I mean, Jenae, Jeney really ushered in an entire sound to the R&B genre. Like, Jenae has more kids than I think people give credit to. The way we talk about Alia and how many kids she has, I think we don't give Jene enough flowers of how many children she has running around from her exact Sonics writing voice.

Sean, though, I mean, he did go triple platinum last time he talked about his ex. He knows what he's doing when he talks. He's no stranger to this environment. He's no stranger to this environment. When they were dissing each other on none of your concern, right? Yeah. Love that record. Because see, Janay could like go crazy on him, crazy wordplay, crazy poetry.

You say some shit to me like I made you come nine times in one day and I'm a fly. I'm going to crash out on the record. Who said that? Big Sean said that. None of your concern. He said Jene made him come nine times. He said he made her come nine times. Oh, okay.

I'm about to say Bichon. I don't know if he was supposed to admit that. that she made you come nine times. I mean, they did this record together. Yeah, but I still don't know if he was supposed to let that out. Like your girl make you come nine times in one day. You don't tell them right and no shit like that. She know, yeah, she got you.

A girl make you come nine times. No, no, he was saying that he made her. I know, but I'm thinking that he was saying that she made him. I'm about to say if that was the case, a man can't, you can't let that out the back. Who can come nine times? This is what I'm trying to say. Only a woman can do that.

This is what I'm trying to tell you. So any man that would be like, yo, shorty, made me come nine times in one day. I think all men collectively would be like, word? And now every nigga in her inbox. I'm trying to see nine times in one day. Fadden, well, what's up? Soon as y'all break up, y'all, I mean, it wasn't even cool like that.

You can give me a dick steroid and the baddest chick on earth, and I still wouldn't be able to come. What's been your top? You're high, the most. My high score? High score. Of making a girl come or how many times you've come? How many times you have.

Come? I'm going to come. I'm going to come. Come ditty dumb dumb. I probably hit five. I probably hit five in my youthful days. I could probably do five now if I trained. It probably was around that for me too.

But all I remember is like after the last one, I felt like I was so like depleted. I said I can't do this. Like I can't. I felt like weak. Like I was lightheaded. Like I just felt like empty. Yeah. Like I got to put on like fucking compression socks.

It was all kind of shit going on. Like, I just remember the Red Cross had to come. Yeah, I remember saying like, y'all, maybe we should go outside. It was like one of those days where you just in the crib all day. Probably, I think it was raining. I always used to be the bad way. Nasty outside. We both in the bed, naked, TV on.

Like, we just humping, busting nuts. I just remember getting up like, yo, I need, like, protein. I need to replenish. I remember having that feeling of just getting lightheaded. Did you love her? Did I love her? In that moment, I did it. That day?

Oh, yeah. I loved that day. All five times. Oh, God. I was in love that day. Yeah, that was my baby that day. Two weeks after that, I was off it, though. But by four, like, there's really not much left.

Like, you're just orgasming with, like, a little fluid will come out. It's not, I don't even think that's cum. Yeah, no. It's like when you dry heaving, like when you vomit. Exactly. By not for, your dick is dry heathed. Yeah, but I'm not even like, what am I doing right now? Let's get up outside of your stomach.

Let's be productive in society today. Man, I miss those, those old. days. When you're in love and just fucking all goddamn day, it's raining. Oh, man. It's the best, right? Cuddling in between. Uber eats outside the door, cold. And then you just get that feeling. All right, I'm ready again.

Yeah. Your brain tells you that. All right, you're good now. I'm horny again. Your shit over there, shmurmy. You ain't even, yo, get in the shower. Y'all niggas, go outside, breathe, open these windows. Do something. Get out the bed. Nah. I'm going to try to file.

got a mara? Well, I mean, respectfully with that person, yes, somebody I was in love with and, I'm not going to give details there, but no, it was. You're binge-humping. For sure. Yeah.

Binge pumping, my God. Respectfully, making love, I prefer. Yo, see, this is why you being spaces to why I'm sorry. You was not making love. You was not making love. Yeah, with somebody I was in love with. That's not making love. Just because you're in love with them,

don't mean you're not. fucking. You can make love. Why you act like he can't make love? That's not what I said. That's not what I said. But if you having sex and you busting five nuts in one day, you're fucking. You're not making love five times. Yes, you can. You're not making

baby D. You can. Baby D. Stop. Stop. Stop. Please I'm home over. Just be nice to me. I'm saying. I'm chilling. But stop. Niggas is not making love five times just like you're not putting on five condoms. After that three pack, after that three, listen, check it out. Let go and let go.

God. I'm not going back to the store. I'm not going back to the store. I'm not going back to the store. I'm not. That's why I be laughing when people that go through the condom pack and then just end up fucking raw. Like you could have just done like, why is you just fuck raw from you? Yeah, like what are we doing? Not, but you lowered the chances of that out of your system. Yeah, yeah. Lowered the chances of like the chlamydia. Yeah. Oh, I was about like the sperm count. Wait, no, no, no. Give me this science. What are you talking about? What do you mean you lowered the chances of get chlamydia because you went through three condoms? What are you? What are you? What are you? What? What? What math is that? Did the latex just stick to your dick? Explain that to me. Please explain that. What are you talking about?

Because like you just, if you go outside like five times, okay, then you, five times without your gun, you go outside, then you might get robbed five times. But if you go outside with your gun three times, then you only might get robbed twice, the times you didn't have the gun. I don't know what the fuck she just said. I'm drunk. That was, that was. The marriage, you just said, a bunch of bullshit.

What the fuck are you talking about? That math was crazy. I apologize I'm not in the best state of body. You go out five times. You might not. If a tree falls in the forest, do you hear it? How much wood could a wood chuck?

If a wood chuck, if a woodchuck would. What is the matter of talking about? Yo, you just gave me no clearance on what you was talking about. I'm sorry, y'all. But listen, man, if you go to Ocean Prime and then TopGolf, you're not making love after? Hell, nah.

You make a love. You go to Top Golf from Ocean Prime. that's not making love. We're not making love. We're ready to go, fuck. I'm horny. You can do both. You can be horny and make love.

Not. You can't make no niggas making love five times in one day, Demaris. Who? Show me a nigga that made love five times in one day. But wouldn't you say

the definition of making love would be that you're in love? No, I'm about to curse how out. No, I'm dead serious. I'm about to curse the barris out. No, stop playing with you. I've had a long week. I can't take much work.

I swear to God. Yo, I swear to God. Me either. They're going to have a spaces with me tonight. I'm talking to Damaris. Do you want me to come on the stage? DeMaris, stop playing with me. Stop fucking playing because I'm not, I'm trying not to go there with you.

But you're pissing me off and I'm about to go there. So stop. Leave me alone, DeMaris. I'm telling you right now. Leave me to fuck alone, all right? Cool. Okay, we could move on. You was out last night.

What happened? And then all go with you? Because I know you guys. I was at a party. I was at a party called Demons Need Love 2. Shout out. DeMaris. DeMaris.

Yo, Piz, just move her mic. Just cut a mic. She had a party called Demons and what? Demons in Paradise. No, demons need love too. Which I think is a great name for a party. If you would have just fucking invited me, I wouldn't have been on space. Shout out to the demon boys.

Demons need love to. I like the title of it. So what happens at this party's marriage? It was an R&B party. Demons went to an R&B party? Yeah. Demons need love too. It was an R&B.

And be partying. All right. Was there real demons in there, though? You're looking at one. Damaris ain't no demon, man. Please. She's sitting here with pediolite. Pediolite.

Demas don't need pediolite. She's slipping cold pediolite trying to recover. Demons don't need that. They just need people's souls. Yeah, that's it. They just eat souls, throw up and get back to it. Yeah, like, you don't need no pediolite. So demons need love to.

Yes. Shout out to Demons Lee love to. So it was an R&B part. It was wonderful. They played like real R&B. Like you know you go to R&B parties. They can play the same five song. Nah, niggas got an A R&B bag, yo.

Yeah. I was, I was, I was feeling shit I ain't felt in years. You was doing what? Feeling shit I ain't felt in years. All right, man. All right. Go ahead, y'all. All right, man.

Go ahead. It was a good party. I had, you know, I left. I was feeling shit. Tell me about the feeling. I was feeling shit. I ain't. What you ain't, what you felt at the demon's knee love,

DeMaris, that you ain't felt in years. Please tell me what you. you felt. Why did that Carl Thomas record hit different this up? Why them words? Why them lyrics landed like that last night? Tell the people. Yo, listen. When you singing cater, I don't, I want to get into it. Anyway, when I was on Spaces on, go ahead. No, nah, nah, nah, no, no, fuck it. She wanted to put this nigga doerag on. She want to take a girl man shoes off. You in there's called demons. You in there acting like a pussy in there is demon. Get on. Demon time. That's an angel that does that. Yeah, she

They're crying and she. Only angels run back on her for you. Yeah. She wants to put du rags on. What you're doing? No, first of all, demons is the most sensitive people you could ever meet. You ever had a demon in love with you?

That is true. Yeah. Very, very sensitive. Yeah. Nah, but when we was on spaces, I was getting ready for the club, like, dead ass. Trying on different skimpy little outfits,

listening to more yelling shit. Yeah, I went out. And I'm like, Roy, like, Roy, you know, just get some sleep. That nigga text me and say, you get some sleep. You on Steinway. I'm like, yo, get off my location. Like.

You know, I was a stymi. Yeah, I was a Stuyami, man Stuyami. Yo, the niggas was running around with that. I totally forgot. I used to say that. This is why I don't fuck hang out with nobody.

When niggins start saying shit like that, they don't even know I delete them on my phone. Like, what are you at, bro? I'm in Stuyami and delete. I'm not talking to this nigga over again. You're in fucking Queens, sir. Oh my God. I'm in Stiammy.

The closest beach is the East River. Shut the fuck up, man. You weren't fucking Queens, a story here. Like, shut the fuck up. You are one block away from Ravenwood projects. I'm in Stey. I'm in, all right, man.

That was a time. So that's what you was at last night. Yeah, that's what I was at, man. Okay. I had a good time. What's the Steinway nightlife like these days? It's been a while for me. I've been on Steinway when the sun is out recently, but.

Wait to Mom Donnie checks in January 1st. He lives on Steyway. He got power now. He got access to funds. There won't be a traffic law on that fucking street. Wait until you see what it looked like over there, March. You like. Y'all wait.

Go ahead. I'm sorry, baby Dee. So you just stay in there. Demon's need love. I wanted to send Josh a video, actually. Of you? All right. All right, thighs.

White slip. A little white slip. With the. That's leather shorts? Matching the leather boots. Sure. No, not you cheers in on IG. Sweet, sweet lady was playing, yo.

Tyrese. Okay. Lady. What did you guys toast to? playing demons need love too. Who is the nigger with the hooker? He's trying to act like he not with you. I don't.

First of all, my brother, don't do that. It was his birthday. I don't too much play. It's always a birthday. Shout out my nigga Gucci. Yo!

All right. What's on the docket? I'm done. I'm done making birthday jokes, so I'll just leave that one alone. Yeah. Shout out my nigga Gucci. Yo, Clay, Clay.

Clay. Clay. But no, that's my thing. You know, Clay, Clay. You had that. What about Clayton? Demaris, what about Clay Thompson? Tell us.

Yeah, because your girl, your girl got this nigga. He's asking to go to L.A. now. He won out of Dallas. He's like, y'all want to go to L. Yo, Meg is crazy, yo. Oh, my God. I just saw something on the docket Meg is manifesting the Super Bowl performance. Matt Joss said, mm-hmm.

Well, good for her. I mean, I feel like every artist wants, like, would want that. Again, bad time. but if you go back to her old tweets, she has manifested a lot of amazing things. That was even like a campaign with billboards of all like Meg's old tweets of manifesting all the stuff that she accomplished.

So I mean, her manifesting works. Personally, I don't think she's there yet in her career, but I don't think that's a crazy possibility that she eventually will be. Yeah, I mean, and maybe not her headlining, but she's somebody bringing her out. Oh, hell yeah. But she said, yeah, she said, for myself in the future.

Oh, okay, that was the full. Her and future? No, for myself. Because that would be a crazy halftime. A future in Meg? Meg puts her on a good shot. I only seen her once, but a stage performance was dope. Senator, Brockley City of Senior had made in America.

I think one other two. No, she's a really good performer. Yeah. But before the Super Bowl halftime, Meg. Clay Thompson, man, we're going to pray for you, man. So, okay, so you say he's asking, no, go to L.A. You know this is sports for dummies. He's not having, he's not having,

because when he went to Dallas originally, he went there to go play with Luca. And then Luca went right to L.A. He said he wasn't coming off the bench. He didn't want to come off the bench when he went to Dallas. Cousin Golden State, when he was there his last couple years, his last year, I think, he was coming off the bench at one point in Golden State. He didn't want to do that, kind of messed with his rhythm a little bit.

Went to Dallas, wanted to play with Luca. Luga trades Dallas. I mean, Dallas trades Luca to Luka to Lola. So now he's in Dallas, no Luca, Kyrie's her. It's just not a very good situation right now. And then the fact that he's in love and his passion for basketball is probably like, you know, I wouldn't want to leave the house. If I had Meg and my bed either, I wouldn't want to go to the gym to fucking shoot three. You'd rather make love.

Yeah, I'd rather, exactly. I'd rather be home. So. But you think L.A. is going to like make it inspire him more? Not that, but I think that it'll be a better situation for him as far as playing. I mean, he's with Luca, obviously LeBron. He's with guys where he can just come in and just do what Clay does. It won't be a lot required of him.

He just needs to knock down open shots, be the guy that, you know, the three-point specialist on the team. You're in L.A. Your girlfriend is a star. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's a win-win for both of you. Now, granted, Megas from Texas, I'm sure she's happy to be in Texas her boyfriend as well, but she wouldn't be mad if he got traded to the Lakers and she's caught side at the Lakers games now.

And, you know, you know how that, all of that is part of it. Definitely marketing. Yeah, when you're going to market. It all adds to it. It's better for both of them. I mean, all right, so Clay is 35, extremely accomplished, one of the better shooters of this generation. Yeah, for sure.

At what point would you? would you just want to decide like let me retire and just start a family? Um, I'm sure he's... Or do you go to Tom Brady route? And it's like, yo, fuck them kids, I'm going to town. Nah, I can't see that. I mean, you know, I'm sure he's, you know,

at that point where he's looking at life after basketball and that's becoming more of a real conversation for him. Not putting too much on him and Meg's relationship. Obviously, we don't know. I don't know if they've... I'm saying it in the, the event that these are the two people that are soulmates and destined to be with each other. Yeah.

Like at what point is just like, all right, I've accomplished what I've accomplished here. The situations I'm in in Dallas are not great. I don't know if LA is going to be a thing. Like, let me just ask him start a family. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure that's a converse. I'm sure he's thinking about that. This is why I do feel for athletes a lot.

I'm going to be really in love. Like, they seem to really like enjoy each other and having fun. You know, it's still early in a relationship. But still, you know, they look like they really enjoy each other. They get along and have a great time. Just from what we, you know, they show us. They look like they really do have a good time with each other. So, you know, I'm sure they're having those conversations, family, and, you know, yeah, hopefully, you know, it works out for them.

But that's why I feel for athletes, because Clay is 35. He's, I guess, old for the NBA, but he's extremely young for the earth. Like, that's kind of, that's where I really, really feel for athletes. their retirement age is so young for the world. And now you have to figure out what you're going. And not everyone has as much money as Clay does or is accomplished where I'm sure Clay could get any type of broadcasting job immediately just because of who he is. But like the guy that's been on six different teams, you know, averaging 10 points just trying to make it. Now you fucking 33 and it's like, yeah, no more teams want me.

Mm-hmm. Now what? Football. Listen, they retire early in football. Running back. You're 26 years old, 27 retired. Mm-hmm.

So, you know. Yeah, I know people like to give athletes shit. Like, yo, you're a millionaire and you're doing the greatest job ever. But, no, shit. I'm 28 and retired? Yeah, you still have. It's still life. Money don't last.

I don't care how much money you really make. At 28. And if you're living that lifestyle, I have a bunch of family members that you're taken care of. Like, you're adapted to that lifestyle. Yeah. Now I'm 28 and it's just like, okay, I left college early. I don't have a degree. Yeah. I can't be a broadcaster. Tom Brady took that job. Now what the fuck do I do? That's, I don't know if you saw the Sebastian Telfare. He has a, what is it? Is it a documentary? Is it like a, uh.

So I mean, I saw the clip that he was still, he moved back to a, I mean, he's obviously in prison now, but he had moved back to his projects? I think that's cap. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, he had a little bit. He had his kids sleeping in there, which I'm, listen, I'm not here to say on Sebastian for having to go back. I follow the Sebastian Tell Fair story, you know, since before through the fire. And I know Sebastian's story is a complicated one. And I do feel for Sebastian in a lot of ways. So I'm not here to shit on him. I mean, no, I'm not here.

I'm definitely, I listen, Sebastian, he's a New York legend, you know, definitely one of my favorite players out of New York City ever. but I just find it hard to believe that he's back in the same projects he grew up in. I just don't think that. I think if you play, he would play 10 years in the league, 10 years in NBA, $20 million contract, that's not,

that's not a lot of money, but, you know, especially, you have, obviously $20 million is a lot of money. I'm saying if you have a certain lifestyle, not a lot of money, a comparison to his peers in NBA. It's not a lot. He didn't make,

you know, 100 million is like the low ball now, like for a player to make in his career in NBA. But then other people would look at that like, you know, people that make 100,000 and it would be like, yo, if somebody gave me $20 million, I'll make that last the rest of my life. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm kind of one of those people too. Like, if you gave me $20 million, I would probably. Yeah, if somebody gave you $20 million. I could finance that correctly.

Yeah. But if you also saw with Sebastian taking care of his whole family and if you saw the through the fire dock and no circumstances he was in. Yeah. She just run through it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just know that, you know, It just, it looks, it reads better when you say Sebastian Telfer moves back to the projects he grew up in versus Sebastian Telfer now lives in a modern, you know, two family home in New Jersey. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it just, it's like, damn, be back in the projects. It's like, I mean, I'm sure he still has the keys to that apartment. I don't know if he lives there full time.

I think he still has a house. You should never give up a project apartment. If you hit that lottery, you should keep it. See? What? This is wrong with you demon rats. That's how y'all think. Why the taxpaying man has to pay for you to live

after you made $20 million in the fucking NBA, I should still get taxed. You just said that's not a lot of money. When when Tommy's in there, $20 million makes you qualify for Section 8 in the new New York. 100%. But I mean, and condolences to Sebastian because his mother and his brother passed away, I think within a few months of each other that had that apartment.

Yeah. I'm, you know people don't give up. Yeah, no. Like, you keep that shit. How long that way it was this? Yeah, absolutely. He's like, I'm giving this shit up. Yeah.

But, you know, hopefully Sebastian, you know, he's doing okay as best he can, taking care of itself. Like, he is currently incarcerated. But, um. I've liked Sebastian's Vladda interviews. I think, I think him and Puff would be a wild podcast coming out of Ford Dix. Yeah. I mean, they both got some stories for sure. Yeah.

Was Puff, it was Jeter, JZ? I don't think Puff was everyone through the fire because everyone was going to see Sebastian play that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure Puff was at one of them games. Yeah, Sebastian in high school was, I mean, that was must-see TV. Like, you had a chance to go see him play, you know, in high school. Absolutely.

Like, you went to go see he was, you know, one of the top players in the nation. I mean, it's just unfortunate where his career landed at the end of it and things like that. But, you know, Sebastian is, he's a good guy, you know what I mean? New York legend definitely grew for them. Hopefully, you know, this story inspires others to take care of themselves financially. We do need financial literacy. A lot of us, you know, growing up in the areas that we grew up in and the city, we're not taught how to make money.

We're not taught how to keep money and how to invest money and things like that and create generational wealth. So hopefully this story shone some light on that. You know, it's definitely tough to watch and see Sebastian going through that. But I think the purpose of it is to, you know, inspire others to not make the same mistakes and to kind and to educate themselves in certain areas and things like that. So they don't have to face life after, you know, retirement and things like that. They can still live a certain lifestyle and take care of themselves and, you know, and find their other passions and things like that to continue to make a living and support their families. Yeah.

Before we get to voicemails, Demaris, what was, what was Syracuse like? when Mello was there because I know he was there for his freshman year he was fucking everything I was actually just saying more about the energy in the city how exciting it was that they went to the national championship and what I was getting more of that

I'm just playing I'm just talking about yeah I remember my first time like meeting Mello like I think I might have been in middle school because I was you met Mello when you was in middle school 2002 they went to the national championship oh yeah so I might have been even younger I might not have even gotten to middle school yet because I yeah I was in middle school but when I met him I was in middle school but because I think he

might have come back to visit I don't know if he was playing I can't remember but that was the white point guard I used to love that guy. Magnumary yeah he made me feel seen and then there was another one green what was his name there was the the power for the center um yeah he was yeah didn't he go to lead too didn't you go to selter or something like that it was a to answer your question the energy I remember that's like a core memory of like being because my mother is a die-hard Syracuse fan. Like, she's still a Syracuse fan, like to this day, like, watches all the games.

Even when they suck, like, she died-hire sports fans. So when they were dominating, she was, it was, my house was, like, insane. Like, it was, I remember that as a core memory, like, being a kid. It was crazy. I remember the first time I seen Mello play, a Syracuse played Seton Hall. And my boy was playing for Setton Hall at the time. And that nigga came down the baseline, my nigga, he made a move, jab stepped to the baseline, reverse pivot spin back fade away

I looked at my homie I said that nigga can go to the NBA tomorrow he was freshman I was the old I was like yo dog that's what he was doing that year in Syracuse I've seen a lot of like great college players like damn like Katie another one seen him in Texas

Katie's freshman year seen him in Texas I was like damn like but Mello in Syracuse and then they went on to win it all like he was special You bless you, man. So, okay, so another sports for dummies moment.

What happened with Mello's career that he didn't become like a KD? I mean, Mello is a Hall of Fame. Of course. I mean, he never won a championship. I think with Mello, it was, um, it was a team. And I think he spoke about this. I think it was the fact that he, you know, he wasn't willing to adjust his game because he was always so used to being the guy.

And it's like, after a while, it's like, We don't need you to be the guy. We just need you to just do this when we need this. But we don't need you to do this for the entire period of the game. You might need to come off the bench and just give us some scoring. And a lot of the times, you know, he didn't want to do that. That's the ego thing because when you're the man since. I mean, what team, you're saying with the Knicks, he should have came off the bench?

No, no, no, no. I'm talking about, no, no, no. I'm talking about like when he went on to play with like OKC, Portland and, you know. But he did come off the bench, I think. Yeah, but he was fighting that. Yeah. For a while. And I think after a while, it was just like, you know, he didn't want to continue to chase

that. And then his son is playing. And it was like, yeah, let me have more time and spend with my son instead of just being a journeyman at the end of my career and bouncing around the league. And, you know, he's already a Hall of Famer. Obviously, he would have wanted to win a championship. But how much, how much do you think would have changed Mel's career had the Pistons drafted him instead of Darko Milichick?

how much would have changed? Because that Pistons team, the fact that they had, I think the number two pick was insane because the Pistons were dominating around that time. If they picked up Mello in that era? Yeah, he has a ring. That was Chonty Billis, Ben Wallace, that era. Yeah, he has a ring, for sure.

I think he becomes the face of the Pistons. I think it's like Isaiah Thomas and then Mello, if it goes that way. With that squad and Mello, that's a couple championships. His, I don't want, want to pin them against each other, but you kind of have to. Like him and LeBron coming in together.

They came in the same year, right? And it was the first four picks where Bron, Darko, Mello, then Dway. I think, because if you go back and look at Mello's, his rookie, Carmilla and Anthony should have been a rookie to you. He should have been a rookie. I heard you say you.

But with LeBron coming in with all the hype, he lived up to it, even surpassed it on some levels. I just don't understand. how you get rookie of the rookie of the month every month your rookie year and don't win rookie of the year not only that not only that your team gets into the playoffs yeah the calves didn't get into the playoffs lebrons rookie year they didn't make the playoffs and i think they got knocked out the first round the nuggets right yeah but they got in no i think that's incredible I'm rookie of the month, every month.

My team makes the playoffs, but I don't get rookie at a year. I'd be tight. Yeah, I always look at that like the NBA guy. Now, LeBron is LeBron. The NBA didn't get it wrong there. Like everything that they built up, the Nike ads and all that coming in, they got it right. Yeah. And he wasn't a bus.

No, no, at all. I'm just saying if I win rookie of the month every month and get to the playoffs and y'all tell me I didn't rookie the year, I'm going to have a chip on my shoulder the rest of my career in NBA. And we can close this because it's getting like too nerdy in a basketball, but I was like 12, 13 at that time. Why did Mello choose Syracuse? I mean, he was, he was at least the number two prospect in high school. Like, it's funny, even in that Lenny Cook doc, when Lenny Cook is saying everybody is ass, at one point, the only person he gives credit to was like, no, Melo, nice.

like he was one of those why Q's i don't remember i was too young for that syracuse was always a school that i think a lot of a lot of players always it was always sy duke like those were the schools if he was from the east coast villanova villanova like those are the schools that you kind of was like always on your radar no matter again i was so young that that year was q's was probably the first time in my memory that they were like obviously national champions but like you would think duke unc Villanova. Yeah, not.

Sericu's always... But Quse was never like in my head like that was the biggest school that the number two prospect would go.

He talked about this too I think he just he wanted to go to UNC but he was going to be on the bench and North Carolina who was playing over him? But that might

was Carlos Boozer at? I don't give a fuck at Duke. Carmelo Anthony coming out of Oak Hill he man I mean that kid

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Before we get into voicemails, Roy, I do want to send congrats to a friend of the show Jade Cargo. She is now the W.W.E. Women's champion. Yes. So, Jade. Congratulations. I mean, I thought

I thought they fleeced her when we went to MetLife, so I'm happy to see Yeah, man, she's... Don't worry, she doubled back, she got her... As she should have, because I felt like that was unfair. I didn't like none of that. Come on, man. She had a big cut on her forehead a couple weeks ago.

I like what she's doing with it now, like the scar. Like, she's using it as like part of her, like, makeup now. It's like a thunderbolt. I'm like, okay, she didn't take... Yeah. Tamaris loves Harry Potter. There you go, man. You take that, you turn that in part of the aesthetic.

You make that part of it. got a cordonie. While we're on wrestling, I did see that clip that West Side Gun was kicked out of WWE. Well, not that. He wasn't a wrestler. He kicked out of the event. They didn't kick him out of the world wrestling like that. He should be a wrestler, in my opinion.

Yeah, yeah. He was kicked out of the event. And it's in the cease and desist. Yeah, man. Gun has been using. I don't understand. I got to look more into this. I might call him. I don't, I really don't call guys and ask him too much about, you know, shit going on like that. But I got to call Gunning and figure out because how was he

able all these years, all of his merch, everything has been directly aligned with, you know, legendary wrestling figures and things like that. Like, that's part of his brand. So why now would they send a cease and desist all these years later? Yeah. Not only that, kick him

out of the event. Which is crazy. It's just like a weird weird situation. He did address it though, right? Didn't he address it in one of his tweets? I mean, Well, that's a very, very long tweet. But to sum up what he did say in this tweet, more or less, what he's done for WWE as far as the crossover,

it's him, Waleh, Smoke Dizzy, like those guys have been prominent in having hip-hop be involved in wrestling. Like when we went to MetLife, that was a whole different look. Like, I've joked with Westside before about this. Like, now everybody on wrestling, myself included. I was never like a wrestling fan, but we went to that match. I was like, oh, this shit is fucking amazing.

Yeah. This is great. He has brought so many people that were not wrestling fans into that world. Yeah. So do I understand copyrights? Of course.

But to me, this is another example of somebody stepping over a dollar to get a penny because I think they should be working with West Side Gun. I don't think they should be sending them C&Ds.

What he's done just on his own for that brand with a whole new audience should be admired if you are the CEO of that company. Yeah. And again, I totally get when you get down to the suits, this is making too much noise and too much money. We have to send a C&D. But to me, you should be reaching out to him of how can we work more together. Well, he put... Instead of just free fucking tickets.

He put the million dollar man billboard up. And I think right after that, it's when all this happened. But he does have his own company, fourth rope. That's a gun's company. So I think he's probably just going to focus on. build that out more instead of, you know, still paying homage to WWB and the legends over there. Either way, I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, business is business.

And if anybody knows the WWE brand is very, very strict on what they do, who they let, you know, in, who they let license their stuff, use their likeness. So for years when, when gun was doing that, I always question. I'm like, how was he getting this off? Yeah. I thought the same thing with the Hitler estate. Tush. I don't know who would. I'm trying not to joke anymore.

I don't know who would call. I'm trying not to joke anymore. I don't know who would call and be like, hey, you take that down. What's funny is every family we know who their estate. I've never heard of like the Hitler estate. Like, who's running that? Oh, you know who's running. You know exactly who's running it.

But we ain't going to go into that. That's for another day. But yeah, I mean, for what's that I feel. I'm not even on the, I get both sides because I think it's just stupid that they would do that to him. Not so much like a Charles Oakley getting kicked out of the garden type situation. but close. Yeah. Like this person has done a lot for your brand.

Hasn't exploited it. Yeah. Like, you know, brought people like me. And like, all right, you know what? I'll fuck with this wrestling thing. Yeah. Let me figure it out. So, I mean, shout out to West Side.

Yeah, man. Focus on fourth rope. That's all. Yeah. You got to worry about the WW. But shit, I think if Walee, Dizzy, him, Action Bronson, a few other people put together, like, their version of, like, what Ice Cube does with Big Three.

wrestling, I think it's out of here. Yeah. Do we have voicemails? Sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, Text, and Data for only $25 a month. Yo, it's your boy Clip calling him from East Texas, man. Shout out to y'all. I'm going to just jump straight to the situation at hand, man. So my wife has this home girl, right? They've been best friends for years.

They've been cool since a knee-high. I'm not really, we're cordial. You know what I'm saying? Like, every time I see him, like, salute, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, ain't got nothing to do with nothing. So her home girl went through her niggas old phone. He got a new phone. She went to the old phone.

Mistake number one. So she goes through the old phone, finds out that while he's out of town at work, he's been like on all types of escort websites. I ain't never purchased pussy before. So this was really informing for me because I didn't even know if this shit was out of here like that. But anyway. Yeah. So he'd be up y'all way.

He was buying pussy in New Jersey all that. So, um... Which site? Anyway, bro. Like, so now she's complaining to my wife about the situation that's in hand. But I know she knows. We all know. She ain't fin of lead this, nigga, man.

And it's a really, like a deeper situation of hand because this niggas been a piece of of shit. And she should have been left this nigga a long time ago. But she's just, I don't know. I can't call it. But now I've got to hear my wife complained to me about her complaining to my wife about a situation that she's not going to leave. How should I handle this, man? I don't think there's really anything for you to handle in that situation, no.

For him, no. Yeah, I mean, I would probably just leave that one alone and just laugh at the updates. Like, yo, what happened with him again? My business. Just mind yours. All right. Here's the angle. If she's not going to leave him, is he cheating responsibly, at least?

How do you cheat? I'm not condoning cheating. I'm not condoning. Well, I mean, shout out to all the sex workers. I'm not mad at sex workers. But if he's a piece of shit and he's going to cheat and you're not going to leave him, while he's on the road working, at least he's like just paying for sex and not like cheating emotionally and bringing in a woman that's going to ruin your family.

because he's paying just for an escort. Yeah. So he's keeping it transactional. Yeah. Not condoning that when you're in a relationship, but if you're not going to leave the guy and you know he's a piece of shit, I don't know, do you look at it that way?

Like, he's going to cheat. Thank God he's just fucking purchasing an escort and then she's leaving the hotel instead of like, oh, you got a girlfriend in Jersey? Like, to me that's even crazier. Like you can fine into somebody, starting a new family like baby d but buy him pussy as a woman if your man is purchasing sex leave him what i mean like he was saying that she's not leaving so that's why i went with that angle yeah

i if she listen it obviously don't bother that bad if she ain't leaving you don't bother that much mo how would you feel if your if your girl uh purchased dick please man i would i would i would i would i would i would i would i would i would Finding out your girls purchasing sex Yeah, that's a rough one I would need therapy for sure I have to find that out definitely I don't think

No man is equipped to handle that type of Even as someone that I feel like I'm healing And doing the work No matter how good of a space I was in That would shatter my world Like I would like Bro no man I'd be close to like that would be

That'd be my 13th reason for sure Bro like no man is equipped to handle That type of information Your girl buying... Your girl buys male escorts. No man is equipped to handle that. I mean, unless you puff, but... Well, I mean, yeah.

But you're not... I don't think men are even designed. I don't think that's in our DNA to be able to even hear that type of information and, like, keep breathing. Like, I think we die if we hear that. I... Shit, it would even...

Not that past matter or anything, but I'd feel more uncomfortable if I'd... knew my girl purchased dick or was ran through like just give me the ran through girl you was out here buying dick yeah i ain't shit is crazy like you that would hurt me so much your girl got to pay for sex like go cheat on me like a regular person go cheat on me like a respectable a respectable woman like just go to the club go i got too drunk and yeah yeah he played for the clippers like do it honorably at least yeah don't go buy in no sex what's wrong with you

Your girl spending the money. Yo, spending money, your girl buying sex. With your show money? That is crazy. That is crazy. Buying it with your fucking crazy. Holy shit. This is how they end up on first 48.

I'm trying to tell you. Those are some of the stories. What happened? Yo, she was buying a dick. She was buying. That would be the one time in first 40. I'd be like, well, let's hear him out. I'm not saying it's right what he did.

Yeah, but can we hear out like. I don't think murder one is what we're like looking at. I don't think that that was an act of passion. That's manslaughter, too, for sure. Lock them up, but like, come on. Yeah, yeah, but we're not going to throw the book at him, no. We can't throw the book at him for that. That's a natural reaction, absolutely.

Because let's get into her premeditated prostitution of buying dick. Yeah. But if I were you, sir, I would just stay out of that. Stay out of that. Leave out of that alone. Yeah, and every now and then if you want a good laugh, when you had dinner with your girl, be like, yeah, what's the latest? What's up with that?

Yeah, what's the latest on that. Yeah, what's the latest on that. We were talking about how amazing it is when you're in love to fuck all day on a rainy Sunday. The other great thing about being in love is getting all the mess in tea from your girl about her homegirls in their situations. Because even if they're a great, solid, loyal friend, they still going to give you the bullshit and laugh at their homegirl. Yeah, 100%. They won't do it to their face, but they'll do it with me. Oh, so, you know, I'm different.

Like in relationships I've been in, I'll be like, yo, me and home, we're about to call you and give you some advice because you sound crazy. Like, my friends have, all my friends know that they can talk to my previous men about, like, their relationships. Because it's like, we, we're not going to say nothing to somebody that I wouldn't say to you. So if me and him laughing and giggling about it, we're going to call you on the three way and be like, yo, fuck is you doing, bro. Like, what I do hate, though, which we've all been through, like when your girl's homegirl will ask you advice. And it's like, I don't want to speak unless I know. you're actually leaving that guy. Because when we go on a double date,

now I'm gonna feel fucking weird. Because I told you, like, all the red flags that are right in your face that you won't fucking see. And now we're sitting here splitting mozzarella sticks. And, yeah, that's always awkward. I learned that with age to just shut up.

Leave it alone. When I can ask those questions, like, leave it alone. That's your decision. Do you love them? Make it work or don't. All right.

We got another one. That was it. That was it. All right, baby, Dee. You made it. I made it through, y'all. I fucking fought, yo. Your Pedia, like, it's right.

You know what I mean? Demas need love, too. I would never forget that. I mean, I guess we give a little teaser. I'm super excited for our next episode. We're about to interview De La So, which I think is incredible. Do we think DeMaris, with her hangover, will stay for De La? Man, shout out of the day and lie.

I'm the fuck out of here. That's not their name. Like, I'm like. Why'd you leave Soul out? You're like, hit me. I got to go. I barely, I almost called out today. All right, well,

if you would have called out the optics of that, it would have looked so fun. That's all the reason why I'm here. Demaris, I would have taken all these mics and went to your cryptic record. You not showing up today would have just been a nail on the fucking coffee. Yo. Yeah, man. All right, well, we made it through.

If you didn't show up, just me and Pige on camera. With Josh on the boards? Damn, ma'all, we should have did that. for funzies. All right, well, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga.

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