New Rory & MAL - Episode 426 | Pizza Hut

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

There’s a winter vortex headed our way for the holiday, but we still got work to do. Rory and Demaris had a run in with a legend at the Brandy and Monica concert. Complex listed their best albums of the century so far, and Rory ain’t mad at it. Mal might have a problem with their pick for the number one album though. WhoSampled was acquired by Spotify, but Mal got an autistic friend who could single handedly do the work themselves. Plus, Rory and Mal didn’t know Rich Da Kid had game like THAT, Julez Santana probably can’t read the description to this episode, and a caller wants to know all about living in NYC #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The volume. Holiday week. It's here. It is. How you feeling? I'm okay.

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. We not doing that. I get my teeth on Wednesday. No, we're not doing that. Okay, new teeth coming. Yeah, I'm excited for that.

So how do you feel about having your new teeth for Thanksgiving dinner? Are you giving us kind of like taking a car out, new car out for a drive? Yeah. And I'm going to two different houses for Thanksgiving. Like I'm going to do a little teeth tour. Oh, okay. A little teeth tour. Are you going to stop at everyone's house. Smiling. Happy Thanksgiving.

So you're showing the new teeth to everybody. The whole family, it's like when you first had Amara. Like you take Amara. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. You got a new teeth. You got to take the teeth out for a spin. Yeah.

Everyone has seen. Everybody has to take photos with the teeth. Yeah, smiles. Thanksgiving smiles. So you got your new Hollywood smile for Thanksgiving. That the time and couldn't have been. better, Rory. Yeah, I hope I didn't really ask the full process. I know they just have to take the temps out and pop those back in. I hope they don't have to like numb my mouth like they did last

on. They will. But they didn't do it when they put the temps in, just when they drilled my teeth down. Yeah. I don't know. Either way, as long as I look good. That's it. That's all it matters. As long as you can smile pretty, man. That's all it matters. If I have to sip a gravy through a straw, so be it. It is what it is. That's what comes with the price of beauty. Absolutely. So how are you though? I'm great, man. You going out of town? You're going out of town? You're staying in town?

Yeah, I think we'll go out of town. See the family. Okay. Yeah. Haven't booked your flight yet? Do that today. Okay. It was going to tonight to do that, so yeah.

I hate traveling on holidays. I do too. I can't stand that entire process. And they said we're getting like a winter vortex. Oh, yeah, I did see that, yeah. You know, when I see shit like that, I can cancel everything. Like Thanksgiving is canceled. I've seen the winter vortex was coming.

I was like, what date is in land? Well, I feel like you should have. You're, vegans should have their plans for Thanksgiving set at least like two months in advance so people can prep. Like, you can't just pop up on a house and be a vegan. Yeah, I can. They got to prep for you. You think my family don't know I'm vegan? Yeah, but you said you may go see them.

Yeah. Like, they need time to prep for the vegan. Nah, not really. Just get a bunch of veggies and sides. I'm good. That's all you got to really do. Fair enough. Veggies and sides.

That's all I need all. Anything else is like, yeah, I don't need that. I don't eat that stuff. Did you tell your sponsor that you ate cheese pizza? two weeks ago? My sponsor? Your vegan sponsor? These things like I was like a crazy like meat,

beataholic or some shit like that boss. I have a vegan sponsor? Yeah. No, I don't know a vegan sponsor. Did I snitch? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to snitch the vegan community.

I still eat cheese sometime. Okay. Does that like mess with your stomach? If you don't eat for a while? Not as much as you used to. Okay. Like now it's not much of a difference. Like I don't,

I don't go crazy on it. Like I had one slice. I'm from New York, man. You can never give up like New York pizza. Like that's like something that you can't away from. Yeah. And I'm not vegan because of like religious beliefs or nothing like that. Like people don't understand that. I just, yeah.

I was never really into like I gave up red meat years ago, 20 years ago. Yeah, you still hate the environment. It's not like you're doing it for more real estate. Yeah, but yeah, it's not religious. Damaris, you're going upstate? Yeah. Up to Canada. Ha ha. I'm going to Syracuse, yes. Okay. You seem thrilled. I have to cook. Everybody gets excited about Thanksgiving. I

cook every year. There's nothing exciting. about Thanksgiving. Like I got to make a whole bunch of shit, host a whole bunch of people clean up before they get there clean up when they leave. Wait, you cook and clean? Yeah. That's crazy.

I feel like that should be, whoever cooks doesn't have to clean, in my opinion. Yeah, it doesn't work like that. The same person that's cooking is going to be the same person cleaning. So I don't really enjoy things. I like seeing everybody together and eating, but it's not really a thing where I'm like,

I can't wait for Thanksgiving. I barely eat on Thanksgiving. I eat leftovers the next day. Wow, you're cooking. What's on the menu? I'm doing it simple this year, just turkey ham, mac and cheese, yams, collard greens, green beans and potatoes, potato salad. It's a light day. That's like when yoghage have 30, 20, and 20.

He'd be at the press conference later. No, because I usually do way more. Like, I usually do way more desserts. I usually do, like, a red meat, too. Like, I'm not doing it. Real simple. You got this year. When they come back, when they send a double team, you got the B package ready.

Yeah. You don't eat that, no worry. We got this in the oven on the way. I appreciate that you're still keeping ham alive. I feel like a lot of people have taken ham out of their Thanksgiving routine, and I don't like it because I love him. I don't eat it, but I make it for everybody. Am meters are like cigarette smokers. Mm-hmm.

Agreed. You still do that. Weed is legal now. If I see anybody smoking a cig, I'm like, bro, you know you could go get the Zah and smoke it right here on this corner. Cigarettes and weed are totally different. It is. Weed is better. No, I completely agree.

I'm not a cigarette smoker. Those were only smoking cigarettes because they couldn't smoke weed publicly. Really? That was just my, always my thought. Like, you only do it because you can't smoke weed. Oh, I thought maybe they were just addicted to nicotine. Yeah. I mean, well, now, yeah.

But I'm just saying, like, now that weed is legal. Why are you still smoking cigarettes? You can smoke weed right now in front of police in New York City. In Manhattan. Yeah. Dibbing an angel does. Have a blast. Well, no, we're not going to.

Please don't do that. I'm not, that's your, that's the way you do Thanksgiving. I don't want no blunt dipped in nothing. That's your Thanksgiving. You want to trip out, do your thing. But yeah, ham eaters are like cigarette smokers to me. It's like, bro, we're so advanced as a people. You don't have to.

As a society, you don't have to eat it. I mean, not like deli ham, but like honey glaze. I rarely have it, but I like to have it on Thanksgiving. It's not like in my rotation. The one-a-year thing for you. Yeah. Ham is delicious. Yeah.

But nobody's just cooking a ham on a Tuesday. Like, no. That's angel dust behavior in my opinion. Absolutely. 100% Well, happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Even if we don't agree with the holiday, at least we agree,

everyone can just come together. Come together as a community, as a family, and sit down and have dinner. Nobody be on their phones. Let the kids put the iPads away. Everybody talk about the year so far and just have, you know, some family time. I do like the pressure of,

the no pressure of Thanksgiving. That's why it is one of my favorite holidays. What is the no pressure? It's not gifts. It's not like you have to do specific things. like Christmas time, December, you have to go to Christmas tree lightings and everything for the kids and this and that. Thanksgiving, unless you're Demaris, you just show up and you chill and you eat. And then it's one day and it's over.

We don't have to stretch this whole shit out. There's not Thanksgiving Eve. Yeah, Christmas is the barometer to know if you're like a good dad. For sure. Like how good of a dad are you? How many presents did you do? Yeah. It's, you find out what your actual purpose really is for this family.

just to provide material things. Spend money. That's it. Buy gifts. Shout out. Shout out with love and gifts and then get out. That's what Christmas is all about. Looking forward to it. We are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk,

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See that new athletic shirt you got on? Yeah, it's a little exclusive piece. You don't even, they don't even know about it. They ain't even out yet. They ain't even out. They ain't even hit the streets yet. Wait till they see when that hit the streets. Worn by not an athlete.

Yeah, no. Nothing athletic about that. That will get everything but athletic out of the street. full of shit looks like. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It just sounds good. It looks good. Yeah.

Me and Demarice had a little weekend. Oh, yeah? Yeah, we stepped out. That's why she late today? No. I thought you was hung over again. No. Still hung over from a Friday concert.

It's kind of crazy on a Monday. Shit, that recovery time is about 48 hours now. The older you get it. That is true. You need two days of darkness in the crib and just, like, hydrate. That's what you need. Close them shades, cut the TV off, cut the lights off, and let me just stay under this cover.

Yeah. Well, yeah, we stepped out a little Friday night, Brandy Monica at the Prudential Center. Mm-hmm. It was, it was a night. How was it? It was a great bonding time with Damaris. Okay. Sometimes because we've worked together so long, I forgot that we're friends sometimes. Mm-hmm.

And, yeah, it felt like the old days of me and Demerce stepping up. How was the show? It was incredible. Yeah. It was absolutely incredible. Was Brandy's Michael? Yes. Yes.

And it was Michael? Yes. Both working tremendously. Okay. Kelly Rollins' mic was definitely on. I just want to go back to that show just to see Kelly again. I'll be quite honest. I'm not going to lie.

Kelly went no. Kelly had me crying. Well, actually, like that. Why were you crying? Yo, yo, hold on, hold on, hold on. What's so with Baby Dee? No. She cried at Gunner show.

Now you're crying at Brandy Monica and Kelly is out. Like, what's so with you? You going through something? Like, just stay home. Get that crying shit out at the house. I did cry a lot of Mariah, the scientists. Because Thug was free and Mariah was crying. You cried because Thug was free?

Because Mariah was crying. I was at the Mariah show when Thug, the day Thug got out and she was crying. So I cried with her because I was happy to her. You cry for the guy that put him in there too. You cry for the nigga that snitched on them. You cry. You cry for the guy that snitched on Thug. Then you cry when Thug got out.

Like, yo, now you crying at Kelly show. Like, what's up with you, yo? Well, first of all, two of my, like, if you were to ask me my top 10 favorite songs, Bad Habit by Destiny Shire, which is really bad habit by Kelly. Yeah. and Angel in Disguised by Brandy are in my top 10 favorite songs of all time. So to hear both of those songs live and one night,

it was too much. It was very emotional. Too much. Sensory overload. I was very emotional. All of the feels. You was feeling everything. Also, Patty LaBelle walked past me

and her leg brushed my leg and I almost passed out. And I'm not easily starstruck. I told Roy, I've met a lot of celebrities in my life. I'm not starstruck. Patty LaBelle? You fumbled a pack. You should have asked her for some of the pies. You know she had them.

She didn't. The pies was backstage. It's Christmas. Thanksgiving is this week. If you think, if you think Queen Patty didn't have the work on her, she had the bricks in the car.

It's on her rider. Yeah, you kidding me? You think she had the bricks on her? You know how them shit? Some shit is going like cracking her. Yeah. Yeah, you're supposed to ask Queen Patty for a pie, man. You're over there about to pass out.

She's fumbling the pack. You should have like, Miss, Miss Patty. I know it's one back there. They would have kicked me clean. They don't like, who let her in here? No, they would have gone. Who let her backstage? She would have gained the head nod to security.

They would have sent you to the back. Like, yo, go pick that up. Go pick that up. Tell him Patty sent you. Tell him Patty said you. Go up town to Harlem. Yeah. Tell him Patty said you.

Tell him it's August. She was going to November. Look, she was right back in November. That's true. Yeah. Was I in the bathroom when you saw Patty backstage? No, you had went to go past. Oh, yeah, I was backstage.

See, y'all didn't tell me y'all was backstage. Listen, man. I forgot. You know, sometimes you just. It's the teeth. It's the teeth. My bad. I forgot who you were.

I wasn't on the list. I just smiled at the kids. security. And they was like, oh, he must be, give him a sticker. You him. That's him. Give him a sticker. He has a new teeth. Give him a sticker. He must be performing. With that smile, he better be on stage tonight. There's no way. He's just a patron of this show.

Not with that smile. Not with that smile. I believe that's Paul McCartney who's about to do the girl is mine with them. Yo, I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. You vlog. So, but listen, listen. So I'm vlogging. I'm vlogging. I'm vlogging, right? in the bathroom. All I hear is Rory. Rory like, nah, man, it's an honor for real love. It's an honor. It's an honor.

So I'm on the vlog like, y'all, let me go see who it's an honor for Rory to meet. Let me go see who it's an honor. Let me go see who's family. Who's a legend? Outside the bathroom, he was acting like homie and coming to America. Remember when you saw Prince Hakeen at the St. John's game? That was you. I cannot believe it. Who did he see? J.D. Williams. Bodey from the wire. respect. Yeah.

Respect on the respect. And I didn't know he listened to the show because he said, what's up first? I was coming out the bathroom and heard my name. I looked. I was like,

that ain't Bodie, is it? I don't want to call him by his character. I was going to say, yeah, don't call him Bodie. I didn't call him Bodie. I know his real name.

Okay, okay. But that was super cool to me in, man. I think the wires, 1A, 1B was soprano is a greatest series of all time. And Bodie was always one of my favorite characters.

He's a tremendous actor. So, yeah, I was definitely fan girling. A little bit, yeah. Mm-hmm. It's okay. Yeah, I definitely maybe put my hand on my heart a few times, like, oh, maybe hit him one of these. Going down bed. Anytime you do this to somebody.

It's always bullshit. No, and then you gotta hit it with the- No, I really wasn't bullshit. I was, I didn't bow to bodey. Yo, you bowed to bodey. Oh, my God. Man, Chris didn't have to do you like that. Oh, my God.

But, yeah, we had to do it. over your shoulder, man. We had a, we had a good time. And then I found out later that, uh, that the entire Carter family was backstage. I'm like, where? I was arguing about, I'm like, the people were like, you were back. I'm like, no, they weren't, they weren't back there. It was what security was way too willy-nilly. Like, I was moving around way too freely for B and J and the children to be back there, but they were. Mm. I must have just missed them. Well, it's because we, we were, we were backstage in the beginning. Then when Kelly went on, we never went back.

We just stayed out and watched the show. That's why we never really went backstage after. Yeah, that means. So, which I mean was fine because I, from side stage, you couldn't really enjoy the show. So I didn't want to stay back there. Oh, I didn't tell you how where Rory had me. What sweet Rory had me. Yo, I mean, we talk about it.

I can't go nowhere with Rory, bro. Rory be having you in the craziest fucking scenarios. Expound. Tell us more. Tell them, Rory. You're going to tell them. So we didn't have tickets per se. We only had the backstage passes.

Okay. So because we wanted to go watch the actual show, we were kind of just like seat hopping. Yeah. Whatever was open, we're going to sit and watch because we didn't have real, like, hard tickets. So we found one spot that got us through the entire Kelly set, and then probably the beginning of when Brandy and Monica were doing their back and forth shit.

Then we got kicked out, and my man, DDoS said, come up to the suite. So I was like, all right, cool, let's go to the suite. Door was open, walked right in. Wasn't aware that it was Mona Scott's suite. And maybe we weren't invited. And she just kept looking bad at it. Who the fuck is this? I think we did.

I think DeMaris and I did do a very good audition for love and hip-hop New Jersey for sure. I'm waiting for my email to come through. This is why I don't go in the way with you. It's him. It's literally fucking. This is exactly why I don't go on. This is why I don't go.

This is why y'all know not to call me and be like, yo, we're going to prudential. Man, I'm not coming, man. I'm not. I watched that shit. on Instagram. I'm not coming. But I'm glad y'all went to see the show. I heard great things. Her brandy and Monica did that thing. I heard Kelly did great as well.

Money going to. Shout to money. Is that the show where they brought out? Was it Tyrese there? No, that was the New York one that I missed. I was heart broke. I did see Tyrese. I've seen Tyrese at one of the shows. I didn't know which one it was, though. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but we got Patty. Patty just gave us like one or two notes and then walked off.

That's all Patty going to do it. No, that's all we needed. She ain't going to do too much now. She had that. She had, she had, she had, she had, she in a victory It's like, y'all know what I do. I'm not here for the games. Like, y'all know I'm not. If I really start singing, somebody going to fill away in this building tonight.

Let me just get y'all something. Happy Thanksgiving and have a good night. I mean, no, it was an incredible show. I can't say enough about it, but I am happy, surprisingly, no violence in the New Jersey show. Just at the Barclay Center was their violence.

You would think in Newark, New Jersey, something may happen no matter who's performing. We were joking about fighting at an R&B show never would I have thought I would read the headline Jaru beat up at the DePoy's Mind door What is going on at the bar

Now when I saw this Again you know how people just They take things and And turn it into something else So when I saw the clip I mean I didn't see anybody swinging I didn't see anybody fighting There was a bunch of just like you know

commotion and people holding people back So I'm like damn like maybe we missed the actual fight because I'm hearing, you know, Jai Ruh got into a fight. And I'm like, Jaru got into a fight. First of all, hearing Jaru got into a fight in 2025 is crazy. Let's start. Jaru is almost 50 years old.

Still in shape. Still like his hands work and he could take care of itself. But I just wouldn't expect to hear Jai Ruh was in a fight in 2025. And say what y'all want to say about Ruel with any perception. I know for a fact Jiru can fight. Oh, no. I mean, that's not even... He's one of the few rappers I know could fight.

I'm not even worried about that. Like, Rul could fight. That's none of my concern. I'm just like, where? Jarulat where he got into a fight. I'm thinking somebody ran up on him trying those viral games and try to get him on camera doing something stupid. I'm just thinking.

And then they say at the Brandy and Monica show. Now back to what the great Leon Thomas quoted last week when niggas was fighting at his show. Brandy and Monica don't have nothing in their catalog that requires you niggas to be fighting, whether it's backstage, side stage, green room, like... Technically the boy is mine is an argument.

If you're the boy that they're the boy that they're talking about. Jaru's been happily married for years. That's not who they're talking about. So to hear that Jaru got into a fight, I was like, all right, so I see the clip. I'm just seeing commotion. I'm like, this doesn't look like a fight.

Maybe they missed the fight. And then Jaru gets online to clear things up, like, nobody touched him. No hands were laid on him. So I'm like, oh, this was just a little commotion, little, you know, everybody just, you know, causing a scene. And I seen like a chair maybe was thrown

or something like that. It was a little tussle. Yeah, but did we ever, because I know Jaru obviously went online to address what happened. Did he tell us in depth what happened? Yeah. What was it about? They didn't say what it was about. He was waiting to go on stage.

His man went to go grab him a water before he was going to perform. And then three people just ran up on him and tried to jump him. More or less, that's really all. Three random people. Yeah. I mean, he didn't. The original headline was that Max B did it. Then it was Max B's people, which is fucked up because Max B.

just got out on parole like stop trying to jam up maxby okay so he had a book he said max b had nothing to do with it his people had nothing to do with it jaru did not say who it was or why they did it you just said just randomly some of his uh try to get sucker punch and jump him and you know no one really got the best of anybody this is some of his bulletin points from his uh from his town hall from his town hall with with 68 people watching I don't know why that's funny. I'm looking at it. 68 people watching.

You talk about how you got jumped. No, I'm just saying more people have seen it now, but whenever he went live, it says 68 right there. I'm just reading that. I don't know why that's funny. So he says his bulletin points are Max B or his crew had nothing to do with it. Shout out to Max B and his crew for having nothing to do with that. Tasha K has terrible sources. Which is true because she said he was jumped outside of C-Less.

Then he wasn't even this. He was not at Say-Less. Okay, so then... He was at the Barclays. Sometimes you get confused those two. Now we're near-stated. There were three dudes. One snuck him before he could go on stage.

His friend had his back. There was a brute tussle. And everyone left. And then Joss says, if he was Bruce Springsteen, the attackers would have been arrested. I agree with you, John. If you were indeed Bruce Springsteen. You're not the boss.

Yeah, yeah. The attackers would have been arrested. But I am happy. If that was Bruce Springsteen at the Prudential Center, those guys would be on death row. Yeah, they would have been killed. But I am happy to hear that, you know, it wasn't had anything to do with Max and his crew. Jai wasn't hurt.

And, you know, it was just like a quick little, you know, fist of cups and security did what they had to do. But running up on Jai Rule is just like... To me, that's kind of corny. You're like, what are you doing? What do you... Why? What are you getting out of running up on Jarl rule in 2025? Like, again, trying to go viral?

Was this somebody that's trying to go viral? Have a moment? Was somebody recording? I mean, someone ended up recording. but not the people that were fighting. So it's not like someone had the phone and was like... Yeah, something's what I'm saying. So was it just random people?

Was it people that... Because it was in Brooklyn, right? Yeah. Was this some niggas that he may have had some... That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think about it's 2000. Of course, I don't think it's random. But you know 50 had fun with it.

I personally don't think it's tied to 50 at all either. But yeah, I don't know. Probably some real personal shit that we know nothing about. Because Jai, when he was explaining it, it did kind of feel like he did not. know who it was. He wasn't saying, but you know how people talk and I think you know who did that

and why they did it, but we're not going to talk about why that happened. But he did make it clear that 50 had nothing to do with it either. Because you know 50 was going to take credit for the shit just for the fun of it. Would he? Did he? I don't think 50 would take that. Well, he laughed. I laughed at it. Oh no, 50 going to laugh at everything, but I don't think he would take credit

for that. I don't think 50 is doing that. I think he'll laugh. He'll crack jokes, but he ain't going to be like, yeah, that's by way of me. No, no, not like that. But again, allude the way Jaru alluded to knowing who did it, the same way 50 would be, could allude to I have something to do with it.

No, which I don't think 50 at anything. No, 50, I don't think 50 anything. But you never know somebody could have known 50 and texted me like, yo, this rule right in front of me. And 50 just, L.O. Send back a green light. Yeah, like joking. And then they think we're serious.

Setting a green light emoji. You niggas is 50 years old, man. I'm not, yo bro, listen, man, listen and Jaru, look, he's still in great shape But like, why are y'all running up on Jiru, man? At 49 years old. Whatever issues y'all had in 05?

You niggas got kids in high school, college now. Like, it's over. If you niggas is waiting 20 years to spin, yeah. Come on, man. And, I mean, I can speak for the Prudential Center show. Everybody there was of age 40s, 50s, back. backstage. Yeah, we were one of the youngest people there.

So the fact that there may have been three 50-year-olds that came together and were like, let's go, Peter Charul, it's even crazier. The headline is almost 50. And look, the headlines. The women whose show it is almost 50 years old. Not trying to age out too soon, Brandy, Monica, but, you know, 45, 46 around there. First of all, the point of life is to age. It's not an insult to age. But I'm just saying, like, you know, you can't throw a woman's age out there. They don't like that. So just not talking to that.

But we know that this show was for the aunties and the uncles. This wasn't the Y-Ns. There were no sheist in the building, I'm sure. There was not. Everybody's face is out in the open, right? Everybody's looking at them. Got on cologne, perfume, smelling good, got a haircut. This was a different type of audience.

This wasn't, we're going to jump this nigger the night audience. Nobody expected to get hands put on them. This is an R&B show. This is Brandi and Monica. Yeah. You niggas can't have nothing. But it's all right, man. Listen, Brandi and Monica, I heard this show was amazing.

I'm mad I didn't see it but I heard the show was great so glad y'all was there to see that Was there any other surprise guest to Maris? I can't remember No, they did like a Whitney like tribute Yeah Whitney Trudy was great We were in Newark

Wait so Did Max be perform? No He performed at Barclays He performed at Barclays He didn't go to the North show too Oh this happened at the Barclays Yes

With John Okay okay I thought this was a pretty good Okay got it Newark was way calmer. Yeah. Oh, now, they wasn't have it. It was no... If this was in Newark,

I would have held rule down. You wouldn't... They would have beat the new teeth out, which is fine, because I'm getting the new ones on Wednesday. Might as well... Yeah, they would help your dentist out. We're going to get these out for you.

Don't worry about it. Knock these right on now. But, yeah, the show was great, right? Yeah, for sure. Had a lot fun. Shout out to Brandi and Monica, man. And I do have to shoot Demar some bill. because if Kelly Rowland would have performed stole, I would have cried to.

He kept saying it. He's like, you think she's going to perform stole? I'm like, no. Somebody should have stole on you. That's what she should happen at that show. I had stolen a few of my mixtapes that I made. All right. So I don't like to be petty.

But you're petty. So go ahead. But I'm going to be petty. Fuck it. Who had the better set? Oh, no. We're not doing that. That we're not doing.

Because the way that they did it, it was back and forth. It wasn't like one went and the other went. It was like a versus? It was like, yeah, it was like hit for hit. Like, they was going hit for hit. Like, there was none of that. Yeah, it was, it was tough to say. All right, so who hit harder?

But then they did take time where they did like 15 minutes, 15 minutes, but then did song, song, like how they structured it was great. I'm going to lean on the brandy side. Okay. I ain't doing that. I think they did amazing. They both weren't great. They did amazing.

No, we got that. This is Brandi and Monica. We know they both going to do their thing. I knew it was going to be a. a tough night when I think she started with wannabe down. And I'm like, all right. All right. What are we doing right now?

We're starting with this record? Yeah, you can't do that. That's not fair. You can't start what I want to be down. Like what? I was like, what are we closing with? I want to be down off the gate. That's a tough night.

That's a tough night. But I felt that way when they did that. DeMonica bring out the sandals, the white sandals? She said, she told us to stop teasing her about that. Those are iconic. She got to bring those out, though. Like, come on, man. It was just so interesting when they were talking.

The same way I kind of felt during their verses, when they were talking about how long they've been. Like, they were singing these songs at 15 years old. Yeah. Like 15 years old before you walk out my life type shit? What are we doing? Them sandals is crazy, though. But that was the style back then.

No, it wasn't. But also, she was like 16. She looks 30. I never seen a girl with those. Never. I seen grown women wear those back in a day Those? Yes, back in the day, hell yeah

You're not rolling. I'm not seeing those for sure. Those sandals was crazy. I had the non-heel version when I was a kid. Like they, yeah. Those sandals is trash. Looking back, them sandals is weak as a motherfucker like. Why they put those on?

That's what that was the style back then. Was it? I don't remember seeing though. Ask your mama. I promise you your mama has something like that. I was outside. I was 15 when a 16, when it was the style. this came out, I think. Fifteen maybe? Yeah. I never seen those. But what I'm saying is they

dressed her. So yes, you might have been 15, right, around the same age as her. But they dressed her like an older woman. So, Auntie and them had them sandals on at that time. Are you seeing what I'm saying? I never seen the aunts. Weirdos, though. I just never. I definitely did. Yeah? I definitely did. Maybe those is a Syracuse special. Oh, fuck you. Those ain't make it down. Those ain't make it down the 87. 95? What is it 95? 87? How you get up to six? All y'all were with sneakers and tims because y'all was fucking hoodrass. Why do you keep putting Tims on us like that? That's not true.

That's not true. But I'm glad that the show was dope, though. All jokes aside, it's good to see Brandy, Monica going on tour and people loving it. If you know the history between them two, people have always tried to pit them to against each other. Like they had issues, like they didn't like each other and all of this dumb shit. So it's good to see them, you know, on tour and selling out aren't across the country. Yeah. And I'm glad J-Rul is fine.

And I'm glad Jaya is safe. Good job, Joe. I'm gonna go on job if y'all want. John's shape, man. John's shape. John, I'm gonna put one of you niggas down. He's gonna put somebody down. All right, it's that time of the year

when we get all of these lists. This is Rory's favorite time of the year. I fall for it every time. Every time you fall for it. And every time I got to sit here and fall with you. So this is Complex. Yes. Complex put out the 50 best albums of the 21st century.

Yep. So far. You got to put that there. so far, these are the 50 in Complex's eyes and brain. These are the 50 best albums. In Complex that we love the greatest publication of all time. Oh, man. Shout to be in number nine.

Are there any other publication? If you look at, we're in great company because we were number nine and then number nine is Beyonce. All right. We're pretty much Beyonce if you think about it. We are pretty much Beyonce. I'll be honest with you. Why I did want to talk about this list, this is the first time I've seen a list and I kind of like, damn near agree with everything.

All right. I'm calling Kat. with my beautiful dark twisted fantasy being number one. Okay, so my generation believes that. We've argued this even, I think, pre-podcasting, we were arguing this entire thing. Your generation can't understand why my generation believes it could be the greatest hip-hop album of all time.

And I understand. It's an age difference there, but I'm fine with it. I'm fine if someone says no, but I think it's, you can say that my beautiful dark-twisted fantasy is a perfect album. But this is not just hip-hop albums, though. Yeah.

best albums. Everything's included. They got Rihanna and Beyonce up there. Yeah, but I think Complex Lean, less where Rolling Stone tries to cover every single genre. I think Complex was trying to keep it to the culture. Which is fine, but the culture includes R&B.

For sure. Frank Ocean Blonde is right there. Yeah. So I think that's Mall. That's what Maul's argument is. Is this the right list? Okay. So yeah, that being number one,

great album. I don't know if it's number one. one for the 21st. What would you put above it? Now, an argument we've had, again, pre-podcasting, I think we did this in someone's living room, was Blueprint versus My Beautiful Dark Swift's Fantasy. I'm not mad at the take that you could say Blueprint.

It beats it. I just feel that that's the best album. I'm fine with this first five, to be quite honest. You can mix and match a, cool, whatever. I think those are the best five. It's my beautiful darksperson fantasy at one, 50 cent gave Richard out trying at two,

JZ Blueprint at three, Rihanna Ante at four, M&M Marshall Matters LP at five. I don't think that's a bad five whatsoever. Finally a list that, you know, I don't agree completely with everything, but it's not a bad five at all.

I'm not mad at the five. I think I'm just looking at my beautiful dark twisted fantasy being number one. What would you put there? out of that five up there I probably would put the blueprint before that okay not mad at that

um shit even get rich and die trying it's hard to like you know you know what I'm basing off Rory I don't go back to that album and listen to it a lot my beautiful dark twist of fantasy again I think that's an age difference

where my generation 88 to 93 babies yeah that's like a biblical album like I've listened to get rich of trying way more than I've listened to my beautiful dog was the fantasy like way more

so I just like great album I'm not saying that it's not a great album but just number one for me again this is just me I just don't have that being my number one of the 21st century but it is a great album and I understand why it is you know held in such high regards

because it is great music I mean shit I not really a scathing take but I think you could argue the anti's number one um You could make a case that anti could be number one on this list. It's definitely the best mixed album. Of all fucking time.

That is the greatest. That album was mixed so great. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I just saw that Confessions was on that list at 35. That's absolutely insane. That needs to be closer within the top 10.

I just looked at the top 15. Having confessions at 34 is, yeah. So I'm saying. That's a sin. It's like, I listen to confessions way more than I listen to my beautiful doctors. fantasy. Yeah. But just because you listen to an album or it doesn't mean that it's a better album,

but I get what you're saying. Not exactly. For me? It's your favorite. Something can be your favorite and you can prefer it. It doesn't exactly mean that it's a better album. Does that make sense? Mm-mm.

Okay. I think if I listen to something a lot, like I keep going back to it, it's probably the better album. Okay. Yeah, just the replay value. Yeah, I mean, shit, even graduation might be a bad. better album than more beautiful

It's not It's not It might be It's not 808 and heartbreak No Okay It deserves me on the list

For what it did Like you don't get Playboy Cardi a whole lot of red without 808s and heartbreaks Like it definitely defined A lot of the projects That are on this

What I did find very surprising Is I'm not mad at CISOS at 16 whatsoever The fact that control Is not in the top 10 Or on the list at all Is fucking insane Control is it on the list

No That's insane saying that's like what the fucking Eminem show is. You've made the argument to be in the top five and it's not even on the list. Yeah. Like if they left SOS off, I'd be like, that's fucked up. That belongs there. But to leave control even out of the top 10 to me is nuts, let alone the whole 50. And I'm scrolling. I even did the command fine thing. Control is not on here. I guess for the top 15, top 20, whatever they were trying to like even things out. So there weren't too many of one artist in there, but having Beyonce lemonade below the majority of those albums is a little crazy to me.

I think Tyler, call me if you get lost, should be on the list, but to have that on the list instead of Igor is kind of crazy to me. Like, Igor, I think, could make the top 25. Yo, this is no disrespect. I don't understand the Playboy Cardi thing. I mean, you already know where I stand. I really don't understand. Like, I'll be trying to get into it and understand what that whole movement is about. but the music just doesn't, it doesn't hold me.

Like, I just can't really, like, connect to it like that. It's just one of those that I've, I've, I've given up trying. Yeah. Because I, even though last album that came out. And I'm like, damn, that's. I can respect the movement that he's built and know how, 100% how important he is to. But that's why I'm trying to understand it because I'm like,

then, what he's doing is incredible. Because there's, like, but there's plenty of artists that I don't like, but I get it. I don't like him and I don't get it. Like, I just don't. don't understand it. The last album was like really cool instrumentals. I didn't even, there's Playboy Card even on the album. Yeah, I don't know. It's like a beat tape. Yeah, I don't understand it. But I mean, listen, salute to shout out my nigga Gucci. Shout out my nigga Gucci. Um, Yeezus at 14. Howdy feel about that? I think it deserves to be on the list, but I don't know

if I, I know it doesn't deserve to be that high, but it deserved me on the list. Yis is one of my favorite Kanye albums. I like Jesus a lot. I know that's- Which one was Jesus? Black skinhead. What was the one that people probably hated the most? What was the other one with a father stretch my hands and all of that?

Pablo. Pablo. I think that was better than Yeezus. I'm not mad at that take. I think it had bigger hits than Yeas, but as an entirety, I don't think it was better than Jesus, if that makes sense. But it's an argument. A lot of people, that could have been my preference.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Hold my look at it. Like, one of my favorite Kanye songs. Like, I wish people use Chief Keith the way he did on hold my liquor more. Like, I need the Chief Keith R&BL is what I prefer. But I don't know. I mean, again, I'm not mad at the top 10 because lists no matter what are made just to argue. And they just want I'm kind of like cool with.

Even if I disagree, I do get every point that is here. I love that they put House and Balloons on here as an album and not a mixtape. But then if you're doing that, so far gone needs to be on here as well. He dropped. Yep. Like, yeah, we're going to do that. If you're going to put a house of balloons on here, there's no reason why so far gone should not be able to be. I don't know.

What was in that house of balloons, but that had women. Cocaine. It was cocaine. It was cocaine. It was cocaine. It was cocaine, chased with Mollywater. The girls was, they was pulling thongs to the side when that came out. What?

I just rip a hole in a thong. When that house of balloons hit? Yeah. House of balloons. Who is this nigga from the north? It was. The same week. In one pretty much summer, we got

House of Balloons, Nostalgia Ultra, and we got Cocaine 80s, all within three months of each other. I miss drugs, yo. I miss when the drugs was in the music. Nobody wanted to hear a rap bar for three months. No. Like, if you're not playing this, shut the fuck up.

We only want to hear Weekend, Frank, and Cocaine 80s. Yeah, that House a Balloon, Boy, 2011? Mm-mm-mm. Asses was being. taken at a rate with Ray Jace. Consensually. Consensual. Of course, there's always consensual.

But yeah, I, 2011 was a, that was a time. Freshman year of college. Oh, you was. I was in college and turned 21. Freshman year? That was my junior year. Baby, I don't even want to know you your freshman year. I don't even want to know what you was doing, what you was saying, what you were wearing.

I don't even want to. Shout out the L.I.U., man. Shout out to take care. All that shit came. So you was downtown Brooklyn, freshman 2011 when House of Balloons Drop? Yeah. That's crazy. We did a listener party for Take Care.

I was listening to that bathroom, seeing who was in there. All right. Now, y'all got to come out of here. I got to use the toilet. Yeah, 2011, we got Take Care as well. Let's go back, 2011 albums. 2011 might be an underrated year that we don't really bring up. 2011 was a year for music, boy.

We had a time. I was outside for real. I was outside. I got a lot of skeletons. Section 80 was great. Oh, Live Love ASAP came out. Watch the Throne. Cole's first album.

Oh, my God. Coles first album. Rolling papers, whiz. Yo, what the fuck? How come we don't bring up 2011 more? Lubei Lasers came out. Because the girls always try to delete that year. They don't remember what they was doing.

2011. They go right past 2011, go right to 2012. Like, yo, remember the Mayans said 2012? The world was going to end? They go right to that. They'll never know. Talk about what you was doing in the summer. Talk about August of 2011, please.

Don't go to 2012 with the Mayans and all of that. Talk about 2011. Y'all like to conveniently delete that year. Yeah, Roots Undone. This was a great, great year. My God. Yeah. Yeah.

It can't fuck with 2016. God damn that Adele album. We got Beyonce 4. Rolling in the deep. Talk that talk. Deep. Rolling in the deep. James Blake.

James Blake, oh my God, what the fuck? Why were we, 1977 the dream? Listen, man. We talk about 2016 often as we should. But I feel like this shit, Chris Brown fame, Waleigh Ambition, Carter Ford, Big Sean finally famous,

super underrated project. Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah. And we got weekend Thursday. We got more than House of Balloons from weekend. in 2011. We got a follow-up by the end of the year. Damn.

No, that's when the weekend everybody was talking about the weekend. That was his year. And everybody was like, yo, who is this dude? Like, yeah. Damn, we were spoiled. Great year for music. Great fucking year for music. All right, well, Complex.

Thank you for this walk down memory lane. Top 50 best albums of the 21st century so far. Yes. When is the 21st century? And I'm always bad with centuries. like 29. So far, this is the best. Yeah, so you got to wait for 74 years, though.

I'm not going to be here for that. I'm just saying they'll updated it 74 years and let us know. No, this is definitely the best. Amara, you will be arguing about this. You will close this segment for us. I'm about to say she can be old as far as too. As an old woman, Amara, will close the segment and let us know if that was indeed the accurate list of the 21st century. You know, Mall, there's something that's been heavy on my mind that I, you know, I haven't asked you.

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Maul, can you bear one more list before we get off this topic? It depends, but yes, let me have it. Pause. The list? You said, let me have it? I don't know. The list. It was a fun pause.

It was a good pause. Was it? It was a good pause. Yeah. Oh, look at the report. I don't know. Go to the tape. Let's study the game tape on that one.

Maybe you should stretch before you reach, but I hear you. Our guy, Elliot, he texted this to me over the weekend knowing it was going to piss me off. He did the best Nas features of 2025. Obviously, Nas has been on all the mass appeal stuff. He did a clips feature. So Elliot put together top 10 list of the Nas features this year. And I wasn't mad at it, per se. I do think Elliot got number one correct.

What was number one? Bigel, you ain't got a chance. I think, yeah. That could be verse of the fucking year that Nas did on that. Now, going to number two, I did not dislike this verse. It was kind of my only little critique

of the clips album. I didn't think it was necessary with the beat changed. It didn't feel like they did it together. It's not a bad, it's a Nas. No, it's a Nas verse, but I didn't like it.

Two, I think every verse after this is better than that one. The verse he did on De La So album is better than that. His verse on the day loss shit is fucking crazy. That's better than that one on the clips album, to me. Again, I wasn't really feeling that. I'm not mad at Ghostface, Love Me Anymore, being at number three, but I do think Mobdi, Poor the Henny should be number two. And after that, I don't really care.

I think it should be Big O, you ain't got a chance. and then Mobbdi pour the henny and anything you want to do after that Oh, I forgot about that Rayquanverse though Oh yeah, the Omerits of shit Yeah Yeah, that could be number three In my opinion

But I wasn't mad at this list And I liked that You know, Elliot's still doing editorial shit and You know, I don't know Do you think BDOT felt a way That he did a list? I'm sure

I'm sure BD is You think he was at home? Seathing At this list Yeah, what's up with you? Of course, absolutely He sent him that. Like, yo, is you cool?

Is you cool? BDard definitely texted L.A. like, is you cool? Ransom and Primo just got us back together and you go and do this shit behind my back? Yeah, this is why I don't fuck with you now, Elliot.

You know BDod was pissed. You can't put no list out. Matter of fact, I don't even think BDat texted Elliot. I think he texted Ransom and said, this is why I don't do this shit. Yeah, like, see? See? Look at your man.

Look at your man. Look at your man. Look at what your man doing. This is why I ain't want to do that shit, see. But shout out to Elliot and BDat. I'd like to have them on for, are your end wrap up? Elliot and BDOT?

Yeah. If they, I mean, listen, Rand and Primo are, their gods over here. I know we're just mere mortals, but I would like to have both them on if they, if they do an episode with us.

Yeah, why not? I'm not against it. A sober one. Nah, let them drink. See, that's when you gotta let them drink. That's when you got to let Elliot get his shit off. Nah, I want him to be drunk. No, that's my friend.

I can't let him do that stuff. No, I went to hear what Elliot really got to say to B.D. Don't get me, don't give me the, the PC shit. Don't give me that. Tell BDOT how you feel right here, Elliot. Yeah. No, I want to do a year and wrap up. Not a year and wrap up with their relationship. No, they're going to wrap up their relationship at the end of the year.

This is a shit is a rap. Their relationship is a rap at the end of the year. That's it. We could set up the couches the same way how math, we had the therapy session where he laid down. They could each lay on a couch and then we could set up like stools behind it and just talk and ask questions. Yeah.

Go list for list. Yeah, I'm with that. List the 10, things you hate about Elliott, the 10 things you hate about BDOT and just let them, let them work out? The 10 things I hate about it? No, no, that they hate about each other. Oh, oh yeah.

Let them do that. Get your shit off. And then we'll have- 20-25 things I've hated that Elliott did this year. Right. Yeah, you got to make that happen. Shout out the B-Dat and Ellie. Let's make that happen for the end of the year.

That would be a lot of fun. Before we get off music, this is more on like the nerdy side, but who sampled a website that I love that can just tell you what the sample is on every record. Spotify bought. But I think it's great because it's just going to add more to credits. And I think shout to title. Title was the first DSP to ever put all the credits, which I think are super important for songs and albums.

Spotify then followed suit. And now they have who sampled who does it at a way crazier clip. Like who sampled will tell you who was breathing in the fucking next to the engineer that day. Damn, my home girl, that's autistic. She could have did that. Okay. She knows every sample as soon. hear it. Like, that shit is incredible to me.

Like, no, I'm not even joking. Like, she can hear shit and tell you the sample, what year came out. Like, that shit is incredible. That shit is like a gift. Like, we had an autistic kid in our high school named Z-Man, and if you asked him any date, he could tell you what day of the week it was. If you'd be like

August 23rd, 1876, he'd tell you what day the week it was. He'd be like Thursday. And it would be right. That's a gift. It's fucking, it was crazy. That is a gift. They'd be able to do that. Yeah, my own girl, she can hear shit and be like, yo, that's the Wussainame Sample that

that you came out this year. I'd be like, how do you do? Like, how is that? Wait, wait. Wait. Hold on. Does she need a job? She has a job. Okay, but you know, like, even with the projects we put out with Jay and everything, like you have to hire a musicologist,

whoever the fuck it is to find certain stuff. That's a real gig. Like, if she could just do it off top, like, she could get paid paid. These people are like really, really, searching all that. She just knows. So I'm saying. Like she's always had that ability. Like she can just hear something and know exactly who, where that samples from. I'm like, that is a gift.

And I don't even think she even like, she doesn't, she, she's never worked in the music industry at all. Yeah. That's a, yeah, that's not a work in the music industry thing. That's a God, giving gifts to know that. Yeah, like that shit is crazy. Um, shit. Chat, GBT and AI would love her brain. Does she need to listen.

We go down a rap at all. Can we just manage her? If we go down a rabbit hole, I think it's somebody autistic behind all of that that's sitting there answering all these questions. They just hired a bunch of autistic people and was like, all right, it just, it's like a hotline. People text things and ask questions you answered. I wish we could continue on how good this bit could be,

but I'm just going to leave the bit right there. Thank you. Because that could be such a good bit. We're just going to leave it right there. All right, man. I think I'm joking. I'm dead-ass serious. Are you in the Twitter world of the sample snitching culture?

No, I'm in the Twitter world. Remove sample and I just see niggins snitching all day long on Twitter. That's the world I'm in. I mean, shout out to Nicholas Craven, an incredible, incredible producer from Montreal as a bunch of projects with ransom. One of my favorite young producers. He's like kind of leading. The way Joey Merlino does his podcast about hating snitches, that's what Nick is on Twitter with all the fans that try to guess all the samples that are used. and try to splash all these producers like,

don't tell them I sampled that. It's a real thing. Okay. Which I have mixed feelings on. I think producers, maybe like Nick, that are chopping stuff down so much that you're not really using it is fine.

But I do think if you sample someone's record, they should get credit for it. Oh, yeah. But I feel Nick, like if I'm chopping this shit down so much, you can't recognize a fucking thing. Don't end. Listen, I'm doing it. independent projects we ransom don't do this to us you can get this shit taken down like yeah i mean

the thing about sampling is you know again the hip-hop and rap it's built upon the sample the breakbeat is the sample of a record um it's the breakdown of a record so i'm on the side that sampling is just part of it i do believe that if you're sampling somebody else's art then you should you know you should have to pay for that which is i think most artists are fine with um it's the ones that won't even allow you to sample the music that I kind of look at like, that's crazy. And I loved Smokey Robinson was talking, I think, Tank. I think it was Tank's podcast. And, you know, he was saying, like, listen, man, these younger guys want to use my stuff.

You know, I probably wrote and recorded it when half of these guys weren't even born. And if, you know, they find my music and, you know, they get inspired by it and they want to use it, you know, Smokie's, he don't say no to nobody. Like, yeah, sample it. Take it. I mean, the amount... The music lives on like that. You know what I mean? Like, it crosses generations. It crosses genres.

The music continues to live and people find it. And if you like me, I hear samples and I'm like, what's the original? And I go listen to the original. Like, that's why I love... That's why I love Whosample.com. Yeah. Because if you're a music nerd like us, the amount of artists, albums, songs that I've discovered because hip-hop producers sampled them, I couldn't even tell you.

Yeah. Like, it has opened my world to a completely different perspective of music just based off researching, oh, you sampled this. Like, Q-Tip has some of the wildest samples of all time. Like, the rabbit hole I've gone down with what Q-Tip is just sampled and the artists I've discovered. Like, how the fuck did Q-Tip even know about this? Like, it's not even soul.

It's like, how'd you find this country album? And, I mean, I'm with you. I think Smokey is right in that regard. Yeah. You're just going to help your career. My music lives forever. Let these younger generations, let them use it, let them enjoy it. And it keeps my name alive as well.

So, yeah, I'm always on the side of paying the original artists of the music. Yeah. But when artists, like, just shut it down and, like, they don't want nobody sampling. I just, that's just weird to me. And again, you can't tell nobody what to do with theirs. Like, if you created something and, you know, you can tell, you can, you have all right to claim whatever you want to people to use it. But it is a little weird. It's like, but why not?

Yeah. If I'm inspired by this one sound that you put on your song and this one. and this one part of your record if it inspired a whole song for me. Like, I don't understand why you wouldn't let me use it. Yeah. If you're Tori Bricks, how do you feel when Summer Walker samples your fiance?

Now, I will say this. Because this Tori Bricks and Summer Walker thing was all over the timeline. I was driving to Kaz's daughter's birthday with Amara glued to my phone in traffic. Yeah, but listen, I've seen people, I've seen people responding to it and, you know, saying things.

I feel like someone's living her rhymes. I'm with you. Her last album, she's on the cover with a trick. She's with an old nigga, it ain't about love, it's about money. Here she go doubling down saying she just with Richie Kitt. I'm cool with, I'm cool on that whole love. Yeah, she is now saying, yo, Ristakit is just my trick. Well, give full backstory because this, this started, what, Saturday morning?

Friday night, something like that? I don't know when it hit the time on originally. If I'm not mistaken, Friday night. Give backstory and can you guys also give me some backstory? story of how Pizza Hut got involved. How did they start sponsoring this? From what I know, and I looked a little bit just so that we could talk about it on here, from what I am aware of, some audio leaked of Summer Walker.

No, no, no, no. See, I love what made me do do that. Some audio leak. No, Tori Briggs put out a voicemail that Summer left Rich the kid. Was it confirmed that Tori put it out, though? Because I don't know if Tori put it out or Rich put it out. Like, I don't think it was confirmed that Tori got involved. Rich put it out.

He's sick. It was between Summer and Rich at first. Okay, so whoever it did. I'm just laughing at the leak part that you just said, the leak. It was a leak. That's not a leak. If Iceman album leaks, that's a leak. This somebody, one of these things put it out.

That's not a leak. They put that shit out. Somebody had it in their phone. Yeah. And they hit set. And they pressed in. That's not a leak. So it was a voice note of summer being drunk, right?

I believe so, yes. And, you know, she was saying, store her name, store her number as Pizza Hut. Well, let's pull up the entire transcript of what she was saying. Baby Dee. This is not a trans. We're not in court. They have the transcript though. Who?

Damaris is the DOJ. I saw it because Shade Room had it. So Shade Room transcribed it. Okay, so let's take a second for Josh. Transcribed. There's a stenographer over at the Shade Room. Yeah, the synographer at the Shade Room

put out. Look at how bored we all are. Yo. This is as a transcript. Go on IG, sweetheart. Hussamer said, I'm sending you this right now because I'm tipsy. And they say when you're tipsy, your true self and your true feelings come out. I don't want to wait till tomorrow and I don't say it. I miss you and I want to see you and I want to hang out.

And I'm honestly really glad. I mean, I know it probably sounds fucked up. But I'm really glad everything worked out how it worked out because I want you to be with your family. Like, you know, when I was in when we were in Italy and I kept saying to you, I was like, why aren't you with your baby mom? Like, let's stop. Let's stop for a second. I want you to stop because you need to deliver this in the drive. drunk voice. We've all left some drunk voice notes before. I don't think you're selling it the way

that Summer sold it to Richard the kid. I don't need to sell it because the shit that she's crazy. So her saying like, I was just kept saying, why you not with your baby mom? Summer, my girl, for manipulator, manipulator. My girl. Who do you think you playing with? Who do you think you play? I've been telling you like, yo, why you not with your baby mom? Like y'all should be together. girl, stop. The easiest way into a nigga heart, allegedly, is to make it seem like you trying to do just what's best for him.

You just want him to be happy. You just want what's best for him. Why you don't be lying when you say that? You should get your family back together. And now he sent him to be arguing with her. Now that's just my friend. She'd be looking out for you. She'd be taking up for you into arguments.

Baby, we've been on this earth for too long to play these games. Some were so gang-sa. She said, I don't even like that, make it. No. We're going to get there. We're going to get there. We're going to get there. Someone said we only fuck like twice a year.

Mom, I got to that part when I pulled into the indoor playground for Cass's daughter's birthday. And me and Amara sat in the car for another five minutes. Yeah, man. When she said that, I was like, now Mara, we're going to go inside in a second. I have to listen to the rest of this. We all need a chick like summer.

We all need one. We're going to get there. Okay. She continues to say like, I'm not going to bother y'all. I promise because I was never going to stop fucking with each other anyway. That's why I'm just kind of like, you know, fucked our shit up because she was acting crazy. She was always acting crazy. She'd be fighting people, everything, calling the flower shop,

looking for the address. Like, I don't have time for that shit. I can't have a serious relationship with someone when they baby mama act like that. So I'm just glad that y'all are back together. I want you to be together forever. I just want to fuck with you. Hey.

That's the type of text messages I'd be needing to read. Just want to fuck with me. Cool. Rich, Rich the kid, I apologize. I was not familiar with your game. I don't know. I wasn't aware.

I'm so sorry Rich the kid. I have not put enough respect on your name, dog. I didn't know. I didn't know he had a max contract. I didn't even know they signed him to the max. My God. We had no idea. I thought Richie,

I thought he was retired. Why is he not in that complex list of greatest albums of the 21st century? Bro, I thought Rich the kid was retired, out the game. Chilling. Family. Chilling. I didn't know he was still getting 30. I didn't know he was still putting up 30.

I had no. This was, This is, well, this is crazy because you'd be thinking that some dudes ain't in the headlines, they're no shame, they're chilling. Like, this nigga all the way done. He went and sat down. He's not fucking around. Yeah, he's, he's one of those different types of athletes where he's averaging a triple

double, but one of the stats is steals. It's like how you get 10 steals a game. It's like, I don't even want to talk to the press after the game and all of that. Like, we got the win. Let's just move on to the next game. Rich the kid, I wasn't familiar. I couldn't believe. When they said rich the kid, I was like, that can't be.

He's, I, he don't hear nothing about. He's out of the way. That's what I'm, like, he's just chilling. I'm like, Rich the kid. To have a future legend after the three albums she has put out, I think it's safe to say Summer Walker will be a future goat. No, she's a legend. To have a goat. This right here.

This is a hall of fame. Say to you, I want you and your baby mother to be together forever. And I just want to fuck with you. No, let's continue on. You know when you have time. No, it might be rich the kid. Jay Z, Nas, big. Like, if we're doing lists.

You're complex. This might be the greatest nigger of the 21st century right here. Whenever complex, whenever y'all put the list out of greatest niggas of the 21st century, rich the kid better be number one. This is, no, excuse me, ASAP Rocky is number one. Yeah. Okay. Rich the kid.

I'm not mad. Yeah. Rocky is number one. Rocky. With that niggum, all of dead. That niggas number one. Number three, French Montana. Yes.

She finishes out with, you know, when you have time, we always have a good time. You treat me so good. I treat you so good. And I'm not going to bother y'all. Like, you could buy me a fucking new phone so you don't know the number and save it as under Pizza Hut for all I care. I'm not going to post shit, nothing. So that's all I wanted to say.

And I know you're not going to be weird or like out us or anything like that. Let me tell you something. If I went in my nigger phone and Summer Walker was calling like this. Yo, look at the, look at this niggas. game. Y'all not even seeing the step back three he just hit. She said, you know, when you have time, we always have a good time. You treat me so good. I treat you so good. This nigga is putting up legendary numbers. You treat me good. I treat you so good. I know what that mean. So the argument now goes into, so Rich the Ken and Summer Walker are now going back and forth, right?

Going back and forth arguing and shit like that. There didn't get. a text message put out where at one point Summer Walker was with Rich the kid and Rich the kid left his son's backpack in the car. She sent a picture of it. He was like, oh, that's my son backpack. She was like, I'm going to send this to Tori. So Tori's like, why is this bitch harassing me? Like, why do you want anything like... Wait, someone said that?

Summer was texting back and forth for Rich. She said, I'm going to send this picture to to Tori. Yes, I think she was being funny. You know girls being funny. So then some text... Then Tori is putting out DMs from Summer where Summer is like, let me know whenever you want to have fun, whenever you want to get out, whenever you want to get over that nigger.

Sending that to Tori? It's a different type of manipulation. Whenever you want to get, whenever you need help getting over, I just want to help you get over that, nigga. Wait, wait, wait, all right, hold up. I didn't hear about this part of it. Go, you got to go, Josh, go back and pull him up. She's DM'd his baby mom.

Yo, whenever you want to get out and get over that. His fiance. His fiance. Excuse me. Whenever you're ready to get over that thing and get out, hit me up, like, let me know. I can pull up the exact. Let me see.

evil. No, that is crazy. I understand why Summer has such an amazing pen though. Like, she's devious. Her brain works different. I understand why she's such a genius with her writing. Summer is different. That's crazy if she told his fiancee that.

How are you holding up when you been fucking my nigga is crazy? How are you holding up? How are you holding? Do, Summer is fucking, she's different. I get it. I understand why her. her pen is so good now. She is a different type of devious.

How are you holding up L-O-L? Well, scroll up, Josh. Scroll up because even call me when you lonely or weak or just want to have some fun with a heart. Tori responds, good night, and summer responds with hearts, the licking face and night booed. Did Summer want to fuck her?

All right, whatever. So then April. I was hoping that I didn't have like porn brain during that whole thing. But when I read that shit, I was like, wait, is there more to the story that I don't fucking know about? Did Rich the kid pulled some Stevie J shit?

That would have came out, I feel like. Because we don't talk about how after the whole Jocelyn and Mimi thing, then we found out they had a threesome. That was like, yo, Steve Jay, add Stevie J to the list. That happens a lot. So April 7, 2020, 2003, Summer hits Tori, like, how you holding up? Toy doesn't respond. April 14, 2023, Summer says, I reached out to you about linking up

to give you some words of encouragement on how to move on from a nigga I don't respect you. And since then, I've completely moved down from the situation, despite the nigga continuing to harass me and my friends. Please don't be telling people about this unfortunate encounter and showing people our messages. If I knew he had a fiancé, I would have never fucked with him. Let's just let it go and leave it in the past.

Saying if I knew he had a fiance, I would have never fucked with him and then continuing to fuck with him after you. And then telling him, hey, I want you to be with your fiance and still fuck with you. Yo, Summer lives around, man. Hold on that. See, this paints a whole different narrative now. someone's wrong for that. I don't think anyone is saying she's right for it.

She was wrong before you read these messages. No, no, no, because at first, from what I know, I thought she was just trying to play her role as the side. But now it looked like she was trying to manipulate and get this niggas mane away from him so she could have the nigger. That's fucked up. It appears at one point that that was a thing

and I think it didn't work out. So she's like, well, I'll just go back to being the side. You do know that playing the side is also wrong, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Now it's like, oh, some are wrong. She's been fucking with my fiance. She's been wrong. I mean, but you know, this era, they don't,

all these girls are fucking the same nigga. They all know that they're fucking the same nigga. So it's, but the nigga is not rich the kid. I don't like, I don't like. Sound like you hating. No, I'm not hating. I'm just, you say all these girls

are fucking the same nigger. That's rich or all these women, they fuck the same guys. Yes, but Rich, that'd be if like Rich was like one of the ones we talk about regular. Rich been in the corner with Toy Bricks. Don't know what he'd be doing,

but Rich been in the corner with Tori Bricks. So they're like he one of the main diggers out there. You see what he been. Well, haven't they been together for like a decade? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not like a home invasion with the two of them. Yeah. Ain't been through it.

Yeah. No, but this is why Richard is even iller. Because if you move on to when Tori was putting stuff up on her IG, both women are defending him in this entire thing. She was like, yeah, I mean, we had some hiccups. I say, yo, he's the illest of all time. After you get out. of having the side chick that is Summer Walker and then your fiance post, hey, everyone has

hiccups. Yeah. We just have to hold our breath. They'll go away. Yeah. I know I love summer. Richard is the illest of all time. I love summer, but this, this looks bad though. But I mean, listen, this is all on par. This is great marketing. New album is all about, you know. Great marketing. You think justice was behind us? No, no, no. I know. I know L.R. But, but shit, One thing about LVRN, though, they're going to spin this the right way. They're going to use this. They're going to use this momentum for something. They're leaving here with something.

They're leaving here with something. LVRN is leaving here with something. For sure. But I mean, that's why, but that's also why Summer is kind of like Teflon in everything. This is the best part of always being yourself. Summer has been herself her entire career. How she showed up. This was my past.

This is what I did before. Like, you can't really shit on someone that has told you exactly who. they are throughout their entire career. Summer has not told you that she was a side chick. A lot of Summer's music has been about being cheated on. That's a lot of her music has been about being cheated on.

I'm saying, but she has things where in the R&B songstress world would be deemed as tacky or tab or like she shouldn't have been a stripper because there hasn't been a stripper that did. Oh yeah.

She's always been, I hate because it sounds corny, unapologetically herself. Oh yeah. whole career of like she's not going to try to clean something up. If she did some shit, she'd be like, yeah, I did that shit. Yeah. So what? You can't really say anything to the person that is always themselves at all times. And that's what summer has been. That's also why people love her music and love her. Because we know exactly who we're looking at and listening to. Do you think that this, do you think that this changes her rea, relateability with her core

audience? No. I think it adds to it. I think this, this helps. Yeah, I think it helps. This is her villain origin right here. Now she's about to be the villain. She was the one getting done wrong early, right? Now it's like, okay. But you're not, but see, there's a difference between, okay, so there's a difference between the girl who gets cheated on,

gets cheated on, and then she just going to start dogging niggas, right? And the girl that gets cheated on and gets cheated on and then start to give someone else the same problems that she was getting. Are you seeing what I'm saying? Cold-hearted. She doesn't got no emotions, no feelings. I'm not thinking about nobody else being hurt nobody else being, you know

she's just out here doing what she wanted to do like she said that's her trick you know what I mean like she said I only have sex with him like twice a year I don't like him that's gangster yo that's what I'm well all of those segments just come out

and you get on live and say I don't even like him that is crazy I only fuck him like twice a year and he be doing all this I don't even like the nigga for her she said twice year all right three times a year which meant she really met

She forgot about four of those times. Twice a quarter ain't bad. I mean, hey, yeah. Listen, the way R&B and pop with women used to be, they had to be perfect. Why people love Summer and Siza is because of their imperfections and honesty. Like, this is exactly who I am.

And that's why we love Summer and Siza. It's not what it used to be with R&B, where you had to be this perfect fucking angel. What Cardi say, if I take your nigga, I don't want to hear no crying, because y'all ain't said shit. Another reason why people... When they was out here, fucking mine.

Why people love Cardi B2. You know exactly who the fuck you're getting. Cardi will always be herself. Nice titty's big butt. Store my name under Pizza Hut. Twice a year didn't even nut. Twice a year didn't even nut. Summer is sick,

oh my God. I like Go-Girl even better now. You, all of that shit sounds like, It sounds better now. With all of this coming out, it's like, yo, she really living her bars. And again, relatability, like,

let's not act like there's thousands of women like summer that do this off. Like, this isn't rare. No, this is not rare. This is just down to every last thing she said. This was just, we just didn't expect to hear this. We didn't expect Rich the kid to be caught up with Summer Walker.

So, I mean, listen, man, shout out my nigga Gucci. Shout out Rich the kid, man. I'm saying. I wasn't familiar with his game. I thought he was, you know what I mean? I thought he was out there just like, you know, go get, got the kids, I got wifey. I'm cool. I'm chilling.

I mean, I need the album now. When was the last time Rich drop something? You know what pissed me off? I need an album now. Well, it pissed me off more than like everybody like finding out I was getting cheated on or more than a bitch fucking my nigga. You out here telling the world that my nigga is a trick. I know his DM is going off like bombs over Baghdad.

right now. Oh, see, all right. I never even knew this. Rich the kid is from Queens. The whole time I thought Atlanta. Well, he, he, he, he was raised in, in Georgia. I think he was born in. No, we're with, we claim, um, Rich now. Uh, listen, no, it's us. Listen, I, listen, I get it, man. Shout out Rich the kid, man. I did not know. I had no idea. Prayers to Tori Brooks, because I know what she going through. Oh, he went to Elmont high school. come on man he's from New York he's no rich he's from New York he's from New York that's rich the whole time I thought he's from Atlanta

oh that's rich though that's rich come on man yeah because this is some queen shit definitely some queen shit hey Jules what's up with you bro I see Juel's on the podcast what's the name of the podcast because I do like those gentlemen I don't know I can't read

no funny shit shout to the funny shit podcast Jules was on there and Joelz was making a point of saying, you know, nowadays kids don't even really need to know how to read. When he was talking about what's more important reading the math and he said math. He said because kids really don't need to learn how to read. Now, I kind of understand what Joels was saying. It landed wrong.

Harlem will try to protect each other. No, listen, but with technology and things like that, you can just ask your phone something. it'll read the whole transcript to you. You can go on YouTube, anything you need to learn. I understand what he is saying. With technology, it really does dumb you down because you don't need. You don't need to know how to read because technology would pretty much do anything for you if you ask your phone. Okay, let's live in Jewel's world for a second, just for the sake of podcasting.

Verse reading and math. What would be more important? Me knowing how to read with technology or me just opening my fucking calculator on my phone and not knowing math. I can ask Chad GBT any fucking equation on earth with math. I think reading. Yeah. I couldn't even ask Chad GBT if I didn't know how to read. Yeah.

No, no, you can ask them. You wouldn't be able to read what it pulls up. Like you wouldn't be able to. No, because if you can't read, you can't write. So you wouldn't even be able to ask them. That's not true. How the fuck can you read without knowing how to write, well? I mean, how the fuck can you write without knowing how to read?

There's a lot of people that could write that know how to read. You'd be surprised. People can write and don't know how to read. 100%. they don't know how to spell. I'm not saying everything is going to be spelled correctly. I'm not saying things are going to have the correct punctuation marks. People can write and not know how to read.

What's my guy from Drumline, the evil conductor? He told Nick Cannon. Some folks can't read the signed bathroom. Doesn't mean they don't know how to use it. Exactly. He was ahead of his time. That's what Jewel's. That's what Els is saying right there.

That's what Elle's was getting off right there. Y'all ain't even know. make the correlation. That's what else are saying. But no, I, it, yes. How can Ells even find the two-fifth exit? Damn, we already, we home? Yeah, no, you got to be able to read. You got to be able to read. So, Jewelz was trying to make a point. I understood what he was saying, but no, kids do need to know how to

be. I don't think we need to debate this. Kids do need to know how to read. This is why people say let's get rid of the microphones for all podcasts. This is not a debate. Yo, shout out to no funny shit. I like, I like those guys. No, I'm not saying about them. I'm saying us. even debating this. But Juell's,

you missed the mark with that one. I understand his thinking, though. I understand his thinking, though. I understand. No, I do. I understand the thinking of because with technology, you really, you know,

all of all that shit, that shit is like, you know, kids learn, kids know how to open and unlock the fucking iPads when they're two, three years old before they know how to write.

You can attest it. I'm sure Mara knows how to open her. For sure. Ask her to write her name or something. She would have a harder time with that. I know, but I think like, hear me out. I feel like Amarish should learn how to read.

No, I'm, I'm not, we're not debating that. Kids should 100% know how to read. Come on, guys. This is just what being a father is about. I don't want the credit, you know, they keep giving it to me. I don't know why. They keep giving it to. Yes, kids should know how to read and write and do math.

I'm just trying to be, you know, a good example. Maybe a father influencer. Joel's was speaking to, he was speaking to our dependence on technology now. Like, it's more than it's ever been. So, yes, kids know how to read, learn how to write, learn your math, go to school, get an education, do all of those things because that is just the foundation of it all. I can need that. I only imagine what it was like when Jewelz got home. And Kimbell was like, what the fuck did you do?

You don't want our children to read? Listen, man. Shout to prize. Prize has been sentenced. That's the wildest shout. So 14 years in prison for illegal lobbying. This was something that I think I probably knew for years was going to happen. People that I know that are kind of like not close to the situation,

but, you know, they kind of knew what was going on and knew where it was headed. But it is official. Ex-Fugee's musician, prize has been sentenced to 14 years in prison for using money to peddle influence in U.S. politics. The prosecutors recommended a life sentence. for the Grammy winning artist after he was found guilty of corruption in other charges, including acting as an unregistered foreign agent and witness tampering in 2023. His attorney said the sentence is completely disproportionate to the offense and that they will appeal. But as of right now, he has been sentenced to 14 years of prison. So listen,

man, prize, keep your head up. This is ridiculous. They're going to appeal and we'll see what happens from there. This is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, listen, man. Separate podcast. Laws are broken. I can. go on my rant of this this is absolutely fucking ridiculous this is a regular practice amongst all politicians i'm not saying what pros did was correct right but i get it you got fucking a photo with obama for some chinese guy for a million dollars whatever this is literally how politics the amount of people that are doing this while we're recording this right now and not even being looked at is absolutely absurd yeah but acting as an unregistered foreign agent okay let's you know what

I think we should go after the registered ones that do way worse than what Praz is doing. I mean, listen, the registered ones are, they're registered. Maybe we should register APEC. Do we have voicemails? Because that's a-sponsor-Boose Mobile. Why is that not a foreign?

Unlimited, talk, text, and data, $25 a month. To me, I just feel like A-PAC is a little more important than prods from the voosies for getting photos with fucking Obama. Hit it, Josh. Wait, we had more stuff to get to before we got to voicemails, no? And you keep all this beach.

Nothing that's... Oh, no, I want to talk about Donald Glover, real quick. I know you guys don't like love Child's Game being the way I do, but... I didn't know... I mean, I knew he had health problems, but I didn't know he suffered a stroke last year, had to go off his tour, hole in his heart. Yeah, I was very surprised by all that news. He had a stroke, right?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. In Houston, his vision was fucked up, and he went to the hospital, and he had a stroke. and then all the fans fucking gotten his mentions either calling him lazy or low ticket sales. Because he had his stroke. That checks out. And I thought his speech at Camp Flogneau,

one of the better jokes that didn't get the laugh it deserved. He said, here I go copying Jamie Fox once again. That's funny. I thought that was fucking hilarious. That's funny. It's funny. But I'm glad he's feeling better. Yeah, prayers of Donald Glover.

Shout out to Donald Glover. Talented Donald Glover. But yeah, I thought that was wild. I feel like that should be get more scary. Just having a stroke so young like that? And Donald Glover seems to be in, you know, shape. Not overweight, like, yes. That's tough.

And then I hate when people are like, well, check your health. Always go to your checkup appointments. Like, yeah, I hear you, but that's not going to have. When I get a checkup, they're not going to know if I'm about to have a strike. Yeah, you can't like look that up. Yeah, like brain aneurysms, like stuff like that. I mean, if it's something like that, they can probably see it before it turned. And I'm not here to tell anyone, no, you should always get your checkups.

I'm saying, always look into your health. But this is one of those that just has me more paranoid. It's like certain shit like that, you're not even going to know about it. If you're in that type of shape that he's in and the age he is. Like, you're just performing. Like, yeah, I could barely see. I didn't know I was having a stroke on stage. Right.

Yeah, that's, I thought it was the lights. Like, I didn't think I was, I was about to, my, my light. my lights was about to go out. I didn't think that. No, seriously, think about it. You have a stroke and don't know, like you don't expect it. That's scary. Yeah.

That's scary shit. But, you know, glad he's okay. Hole in your heart. Yeah, like, that's, yeah, man. I don't know. But I'm just glad he's, you know, he's okay. Also, before we get to voicemails, we get a stove got album this week. Hey, I'm like, is anyone else?

Like I said, I don't know. I'm going to put together this list for, end of the year rap albums for 2025. I'm excited about this Stove God. Goat Stamp, November 28th. I've been waiting for this one.

Stove God, you know, to me, I mean, I've been supporting him forever. His first album, The Reasonable Drought Classic. But I've been waiting for this, for this follow-up. So glad that we got a date. Glad that is finally dropping.

Looking forward to it. I know that talk is going to be impeccable. The records that I have heard from this is the best music I've heard from stove god the ones i have heard i didn't hear the full project but the records that i have heard that are on this is the best music i've heard stove god make which is saying something because reasonable drought to me is a modern classic absolutely so i'm super excited um for that gold stamp november 28th stove god uh rockies put out out of jane where 16 come on man all right let's just get to voice masks i mean listening don't be dumb

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being a stand-up nigga. Or in Roy's case, being a stand-up dude. And I guess in Demeritz's case, being a stand-up bitch. I knew he was going to go there. Respectfully, of course. You ever know some information about somebody

and you're just such a stand-up nigga that you can never let them know you just got to let them live in their delulu my own girl, she's telling me all about her best friend and how she's amazing and faithful and good mom and loves her man and I don't know, oh wow

her friend but she's cheating on her man with my nigger. So she's telling me all these things. And little does she know. If she were to know, oh, I'll blow that whole shit up. But I'm a stand-up, nigga. I'll never, I will never tell her.

Gotta let her live in her Dulu. Is this guy friends with Tori Brooks? But another situation, you've got to be a stand-up, nigger. And I love them all. but this nigger ma' been in my girls' DMs for you.

Okay, part two. This, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, ma' been in my girls' DMs for years,

yo. For a year, I'm talking, he's not as stand-up as he says he is. I mean, now he's, he's mentioned.

And, you know, she let me, you know, she let me see, she let me see all her DMs. If I, you know, if I,

you know, if I asked, you know, whatever. And, uh, Maybe he's not I'm a fan of the pot.

In D-D. doesn't mean. Way back. Way back. Doesn't mean that. But I'm a stand-up nigga. Oh, my. He's not.

Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off. No, no. Can't turn it. I want to hit the rest of it. Why don't talk? Can to him.

Pull it back a little bit first. You know what I mean? That's the whole being a great. Thank you. I don't even know what you're saying. That you. You know what you're saying that.

You know what you're saying that. the whole shit. I don't even know what you're saying. Bring it back. Bring it back. He wasn't saying anything. Even, even, even, even, even, even niggas that, even with niggas that you don't know. You know what I mean? That's, that's the whole, uh, uh, being a great, um, side nigga.

You know what I mean? Like, we see all the time people be fucking posting screenshots and that, uh, yo, yo, be silent, keep it real. You know, this might be dry snitching, but, I see you all. You ain't low.

I love, you know, the comments. It's wet snitching. Yeah, I see it all. I see it all. So where do we want to begin? Do you want to address the latter first? I'll be in your girls' DMs. Here's my thing, though, because when people say being DMs,

that's almost like equivalent to like when girls be like, oh, he tried to talk to me. And all you said was, hey. Or just like, like the, story or money bags on the story. Why I think it's bullshit is if you was really in her DMs, he would have an issue, she would be replying. Like, I don't think you're talking to nobody.

Definitely not. Definitely not. Are you trying to find right now? No, I'm not. I was trying to hear what he was saying because I was hoping he would say who his girl was at one point, but I, no, he stand up. I got that far. I heard that.

He said that like seven times. You kept saying, I'm a stand up. stand up nick, I'm a stand up. Stand up niggas ain't got to say that they stand up niggas. And then second of all, in the very first part of the voicemail, he's like, nah, but I ain't, I ain't tell home girl that her girl be cheating with my man's because I'm a stand up nigga. You want to applaud a fish for swimming. You just, you want to say something so bad. Like you want to be messy so bad so you want us to congratulate you for not being messy. All right. Let me ask you a question on that scenario.

I feel like it'd be more stand up. Same scenario with you and I. if I know some shit going on, I'm going to tell you you're my friend. Isn't it more stand-up? That's not snitching. I'm telling my friend some bullshit that's happening to them. Which I would want my friend to do the same with me.

But it's not some bullshit that's happening to the friend. It's like if, it's like if Maul was Senator telling me like, yo, Rory, really such a good guy. Rory's such a good guy. He don't be dogging his bitch. And the whole time I know Rory dogging his bitch with one of my friends. But I don't tell Mall. That's not, like it doesn't affect Mall at all.

Okay, gosh. Yeah, in that scenario, I would just shut the fuck up. Yeah, it don't got nothing to change your business. Yeah, that don't make you stand up to just, just shut up on something. That's what I'm saying. Okay. It doesn't affect a friend at all. If you're telling me, yo, my man, stand up and I know something else,

I'm going to tell you what's going to be my friend. I mean, that's not snitching. It's being a good friend, but I don't know. Why that that latter part is weird is like, if it's been for years, that means your girl has been replying back to Mall for years, because I don't think Maul is DMing a woman with no response. Why are everybody saying I'm all being their DMs?

I've been seeing that a lot on the internet lately. All right, if you put an emoji on a story, is that in someone's DMs or am I just putting the fire emoji next to your shit?

Am I in your DM? If it's your birthday and you post like your birthday and I say happy birthday, that's in your DM? No. Okay. Now, the fire emojis,

the fire emojis, people get away, people get away with that and be like, oh, I ain't in your DMs, I just sent the fire emoji. If you would have responded to the shit and said fire,

that's you being in my DMs. Like you, Okay. All right, cool. If it happens once, whatever. But if I'm continuously posting pictures where I look cute and you're continuously commenting on me looking cute, that's you in my DMs. You're hoping that I respond. You're hoping that I say something because otherwise you could just hit the little. Or you're just a fire photo. Which is fine. But you could just if you like the photo, you could just hit the little like button in the corner. You don't got to send. What? He puts the extra effort in. Oh. Yeah, I go to extra mile. Yeah, because you know that that goes to my DMs. You know. that that goes to my DMs. When you send a fire emoji, you know it comes as a DM. If you send it as a little like, it's just a little like. By definition, yes, I'm in your DMs, but we know what it means he was in my DMs.

The same way when girls lie, yo, he tried to talk to me and all you said was high. No, I didn't try to talk to you. Said hello. Oh, what you said hi for? Did I talk to you? Yes. Did I try, like, because we know what that means tried to talk to me. But what did you say hi for?

I'm polite. We are in the streets. You didn't have to say hi to me. We're on the internet. If you wouldn't have said hi to me, no one would have thought of a group. I've seen women say, Roy tried to talk to me, and I've laughed at something they posted, and then we had a three-word exchange. Okay, well, yes, that's different.

And I'm saying that could be the same thing of saying he was in my DMs. I wasn't in your DMs. I replied to some shit that you posted. I agree with that. But the comments, if you're compensated on my looks or saying hi, when it's not necessary for you to say hi, high is literally you trying to speak to someone. Yes. I feel like, so what you saying hi for?

We on the internet. I didn't know that you was thinking of me. Why are you saying hi? All right. He tried to talk like, like, yo, I asked if I could take you on a date. To me, that's, I tried to talk to you. Okay. Just having an exchange on DM as just the start of a conversation to me should not suffice as me trying to talk to you.

That was you testing the waters. Yeah. Like if I'm like, hey, would you be interested in grabbing a drink or something? Yeah, that's me trying to talk to you. Yeah, but me just responded to your post with like an emoji or something. It's not me trying to. No, I don't think that. But it's not also not in your DM.

So if you want to use that as a technicality, it's in your DM. So, okay. That's it. But I mean, words have different meanings. But him saying that is like, your fan, who you're a girl? Miles will just tell me that at this one. Like, who you're a girl, though? Should we get him on the Zoom Zoom room?

That might be a good Zoom Zoom room candidate. Get him on a Zoom room. And if his girl, if that's true and you really be in his girl DMs for years. And he won't, and he won't tell you who his girl is. That's because she over there like, don't do that. Don't embarrass me. Don't do that. Not even that.

I just feel like. Anonymous. But it's a tag. There should be a email. In the settings, we can find it. We sell everyone's data that does this, by the way, just to let you guys know. I'm joking. I just feel like it would be a different conversation of,

him calling into a podcast to joke around about it if Maul was really in his girls' DMs for years. To me, I think it's just Maul replying to an IG story or something. Yeah. That's not in your DMs for years. Yeah. Unless, I mean, I wouldn't expect this from you. I just don't think you're DMing women for years that don't reply. I'm not.

I just don't strike me as the type. Yeah, I'm not doing that. But, I mean, listen, it made for a good story, right? Good voicemail, I guess. I don't know. But yeah, let's see Well, he's anonymous So we can't get him in the Zoom, right?

We'll see. Yeah, we'll figure out. If not, if you're listening to this, reach out to the new Ray Mall email. I feel like we've had, didn't we, I feel like we heard one of those something like that before.

What? Somebody was, somebody who said that I'll be in his girl's DMs. Apparently you be in DMs. What's going on with you? And I'll be over here like, uh-uh, ma'am, ma'am, more don't be in nobody DMs. Ma don't be fucking with these bitches.

And every time, somebody saying you and them DMs going through. crazy. Going crazy is crazy. I haven't gone crazy and I don't know how many years. If I'm going crazy in DMs. Like what does that mean? Exactly. What is going crazy? Damasked. I mean, DM and multiple women. When I say going

crazy, DM in multiple women. Some flirty shit. Oh, some flirty shit? If you're single, what's wrong with flirting with people on? Nobody said anything was wrong. I'm not saying to you. No, but period. Nobody said that it was wrong. It's just he and DM's going crazy. Allegedly. That's what is being alleged.

Yeah, y'all got to start telling me your girl's names We're gonna put it into this Y'all n'all niggins, who are your girl, though? Who? Because she's probably lying. And if she's showing you something, that's a wild lie. But I'm saying if she's showing you something,

if she's showing me in your DMs, who are you girl? Fuck it, let's just get to that. Who's your girl? But I also like, I don't know, my last relationship, I would see people, famous people in the request DM shit. I didn't feel away. Like, they don't know none the wiser.

Like, I think my girl's attractive. Of course, people are going to DM her. Like, I didn't think that it's all in requests with no replies. Like, I don't care about that. So that's why I find that odd. Like, yo, Moe being my girl's deem. Well, I don't know. Is your girl attractive?

And is she single? And why is she replying? Sometimes your girl be single. Amen. Because I'm never mad at someone trying to DM my girl. But if she reply, now I'm mad. And I'm not mad at you. I don't know.

I don't even know you. I don't even know you. You're shooting your shot like anybody else. Sometimes your girl be single, so I don't know. Sometimes your girl be single. It should be a T-shirt. Be like that. Be like that.

Sometimes your girl be single. Sometimes your girl be single, dog. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. You know what I mean? Sometimes your girl know rich the kid. Yeah, it's the all summer. Sometimes your girl know both of them.

Rich and summer. Oh, man. We got another one? Yo, what up? Day one listener. Been listening to all since our. I was literally, I think, in high school. I'm a 30-year-old man now.

So, crazy. Really been growing up with y'all in my ears, which is kind of crazy. Pause. Yeah, so I was calling because y'all get called ignorant about the South a lot. I think y'all are too well-traveled and y'all, from all my ears of listening, y'all bring up Southern rap almost to say, y'all, we don't give enough praise to it, is what y'all say. But I'm very ignorant to the Northeast. I've never traveled up there.

I've only traveled outside the country. So I really want to know, answer these questions, please. Like, I have some questions for you. And they may sound dumb, but you have to realize. Like, these are real questions. Do you all really have rats that are like, you know, the size of cats? Yes. Do people in lower income areas really grow up below above a pizza restaurant in a Chinese restaurant?

When you step outside, you're just in the heart. Not even in low income. I know there's different locations. to live. I'm not that dumb. I'm not. This makes me sound really fucking stupid. I love a self-awareness. Why do all the rich people own apartments and not houses? Where do they put the house? A 2,500 square foot home in Texas is like a really nice starter home, but a 2,500 square foot home in New York is like on the front page of our architectural, architectural digest. I am dumb.

Yeah, I was just, why is it? What is the minimum income to live there? I like this kid a lot, by the way. He's hilarious. With New York, I don't obviously agree with how egregious the prices are for rent, property tax, mortgage, anything. It's crazy. But you are paying for location, whereas a millionaire may buy a small square footage because they're in the middle of Manhattan. They're paying for the location less than they're paying for what the apartment is. Like you could find a $4,000 a month apartment.

in the city that only has one closet and you'd be like what idiot would do that and i agree with you but they're paying to live in new york not paying for the apartment is usually how that goes but we're getting fucked over i mean i don't know when dami's gonna he's gonna bulldoze the entire city and just rebuilds free houses for all of us first come first serve the keys will be under the mat and you could just go there so everything's going to change clearly because that's what the mayor has the power to do the mayor has that power Absolutely. I'm the governor.

The mayor can do all this. The mayor. I do appreciate those questions, though. It just shows that how some people that have never been in New York City like that, they really don't believe that people. Like, I see people all the time when they show like these one bedroom apartments or these studio apartments. And they're like, there's no way that people live in these. And I'm like, yeah.

All the comments on YouTube, Instagram, when they show those, I agree with everyone that shit's on New York. And it was like, why would anyone pay $3,500 a month for this shit? I agree with you. A friend of mine was. She had one of... She had one of... She had one of the apartment, like, a lottery.

And it was, like, one of those new, like, luxury buildings. And I was like, I'm going with... I just want to see what this looks like. Because there was a studio. I said, I just want to see. Yo, we walked in there. Like, he... First of all, you can't even say he walked in.

He opened the door. That shit was so small. I got anxiety standing in there. That's how small that shit was. I said, yo, y'all want what to live in here? This is... It don't even make... Like, that shit looked like

just a big-ass, like... closet. It was like literally you open the door, you see straight to the only window. So it's like the window was like the whole wall. And you view of the water. Oh, it's incredible view. Yeah. But it's literally just this. And then the bathroom, the stove, the fridge. Yeah. Your sheets are going to smell like whatever you're cooking. I was like, yo, who, why would somebody even design this? Like, who was this? Florida ceiling windows is what I think tricks a lot of people. Like you're literally buying a closet, but just because the window ends at the floor, you're like, well, this is great. Nah, that shit gave me anxiety looking at that shit.

I was like, yo, nobody can't live in here. You put a bed in here. That's it. You put a, what is it, a day bed, like a, like a futon or something? And a chair. And it's like, all right, now I'm at the stove. Who's hungry? Yeah.

At that point, like, what am I? I just don't understand. And that's only, we talk about, I think that shit was like $2,000. You're probably underselling what it was. Studios are more than $2,000 right now. No, but she had the, she won the lottery. So she gave, she paid a little income. The building was incredible.

The building was incredible. The amenities were incredible. You got to pay for the amenities. This is what I'm saying. But I'm like, when it's time for me to go to where I live, like you want me to go in here? This is like a nice size coffin. Like, I'm not, I just didn't understand how people really, like, expect people to live out there. But this gentleman, he's obviously never been in New York like that. He's so he really wants to know, like, is that real?

Do people grow, 100%. These cats are fucking, I mean, these rats, fucking huge. Yes, you grow up on, you live on top of a pizza spot, bodega. It's all real. Everything you've seen in shows and films, it's all real. I will say my, Demer, do you remember my first apartment? Yes. In Jersey.

It was in Jersey City. be it, my first, first one. I lived above a fish spot and a pizza spot and a Chinese spot. The whole building was, it was a pizza spot, Chinese spot, our door, then a fish spot. I'm a clean human being. I even have OCD to some degree when it comes to cleanliness. When you live above restaurants, your entire house will be infested with every roach, centipede, mouse, The fuck, we shared the trash room and laundry room were shared with those three restaurants.

I saw rats the size of dogs, not cats. They were eating so good back there. Yeah. And one time, uh, I locked myself out. So I asked the fish spot, because their, their back door of the fish spot went into my, like lobby. Mm-hmm. So I asked them, was like, oh, I locked myself out. I just go this way.

When I went behind there, I said, now I know why I have. roaches crawling on my bed. Yeah. This is the dirtiest fucking thing. My advice to anyone living in New York, don't get an apartment above a restaurant. You're fucking. Yeah, I wouldn't.

You're fuck. And I mean, it happens to, shit, I'd say 60% of apartments in New York probably are at a restaurant. But that was some of the nastiest shit ever. Like, I couldn't clean enough. And it still was like, roach, roach, roach. because it's just dirty down there. But again, all the jobs are here, though.

Like, if you go to college and there's only so many majors, you're going to have to go to a major city that is going to be super overpriced and you're going to have to get a studio apartment and pay some ridiculous amount. Not everyone can live in the South or Middle America with the job market that they select. So I'm jealous of all the people in the South. Yeah, I hear you, Demaris. I'm just rambling. I wish we could live in this out.

I do too. We still can. It's not too late. Well, happy holiday. Happy Thanksgiving. Yes. We'll talk to you all soon. Everybody, enjoy the time with your family. Enjoy the time with your friends.

And we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that niggie. He's just ginger. And you're a job of turkey. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.