New Rory & MAL - Episode 430 | I Love You, Man

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

It’s December, it’s cold af, and so we’re stuck in front of the TV. The Diddy doc got Rory and Mal in shock, and Mal wants to know what’s next once this chapter is over? Meg Th...ee Stallion makes a statement winning her lawsuit. You can’t be making sh*t up about people and getting away with it. Mal wants Demaris to explain what’s going on with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo ‘cause it doesn’t feel right. Plus, you won’t catch Rory and Mal swapping jerseys outside the club, and we give you our Spotify Wrapped. #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. The volume. Welcome back, December. It is the holiday time. Aren't you excited? Don't you just love December? No.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I mean, I don't like it on the adult side of having to, like, get, you know, gifts for people I love, but, I mean, I do love the energy of the holiday season. Not me. You don't want to just walk down Fifth Ave and just take in all the commercialism? Poo-y. You know a special lady you want to go to the tree? Rockville Center? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Do a little ice skating. Nah, that rink is too small and too packed. You don't think it's a magical time in the city? No. Vibrant. Energy is almost tangible. Just the way for all the stores to get rid of their inventory. That is true.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Going into the new year. They're getting rid of the Louis Vuitton thing by Central Park, like with the big... The big suitcase. Yeah. That was like, I thought that was like here to stay. I thought that was like Statue of Liberty, Freedom Tower. than that. The stores here. They probably Apollo. They probably remodel it, do something different.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah. Oh, really? That was better than scaffolding than whatever they would have done. That was like the coolest thing ever to me. I wish they would have kept that. Yeah, me, you know, do the whole store over, do the whole building over. Well, you don't seem happy for the holidays. Me? I'm happy for the holidays.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Into the year. Fucking Grinch over here. Let's wrap the year up. Let's wrap the year up. Let's wrap the year up strong. This is a quick year. Finish strong. Let's finish strong. Remember Boston Strong after the bombing? Y'all remember that? I do remember that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:42 What? What? How could we forget? I'm just saying, never forget. Remember 9-11? Never forget. I do remember it. We were you.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Where were you? Miss Bernardo's social studies class. Yeah. We were this stupid phrase never forget. Like we'd forget some shit like that. Like, yo, yo, I was sitting around. Yo, you remember that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Who could forget they had to walk from Battery Park over to Harvard to get back home? Who would ever forget that day? People had to walk. from Wall Street all the way to fucking queen. Like six wars after that? Who forgot about that? Nobody will ever forget that.
Starting point is 00:02:15 There's people with dementia. That's the only thing they remember. It's all they remember about New York City. Well, never forget it. But being down in that area now, it has, like, they've done like a lot of things over though. Like in that area downtown? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's completely different now. I like it, though. I mean, sad that we had to. Yeah, the entire city since then is a little different. No, the Van Wicks is still the same. That is true. The Van Wend, Since before I was even conceived, it's been the exact same.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Cross Bronx, still the same. Nothing changed. Yeah. Well, yes, never forget the Boston Marathon. Mark Wahlberg involved in both of those. It's kind of weird. He's from Boston. In the movie, he saved.
Starting point is 00:02:51 He went from the finish line to killing the terrorists. Like, he was like Jason born in that movie with a bad leg. He was an old watcht-up cop and smoked everybody. But Mark Wahlberg, we fuck with Mark. He was a Boston PD guy and then ended up in a completely different town where his jurisdiction did not matter and was killing terrorists. Like, dog, you're out of your border. How are you getting this call?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Kill them all. And then he said, if he was on the plane in 9-11, 9-11 would have never happened. Who do you think is the most overrated of like those guys? Like the Jason Borns, the fucking, what's the other one that they kill over his dog? He went to war over his dog. John Wick, like all of them. Mark Wahlberg did too and Shooter. Overrated out of all of those movies.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Like the characters themselves are the actors. I never got to. into John Wick. What? And I love, I love Keanu Reeves, but I never got into John Wick. I like John Wick. Never got into that show. Yeah, I like Neil over John Wick.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah. Johnwick was never my, it was never my drip. Who was the one Tom Cruise was playing, not Mission Impossible, but the other one? Jack Reacher. Oh, okay, yeah. Like who, John Reach or Jack? John or Jack, Jack, Jack Reacher, yeah. Like, which one was the most overrated?
Starting point is 00:04:06 I'm gonna go with John Wick in my opinion yeah wow really I was never into John Wick never I never understood how people were like fucked with that shit y'all fucked with Jack Reacher more than John Wick nah I know y'all didn't ain't no way
Starting point is 00:04:24 I felt like I was the only one who went to see Jack Reacher yeah I definitely didn't go to the theater to see Jack Reacher I saw it I just typed in on Google just see like a list of action movie characters and why did Captain Jack Sparrow come up he would be the most overrated in my opinion. Jack Sparrow? Legend, you tripping.
Starting point is 00:04:43 As far as like heroes? Yeah, he saved the seas. Somebody had to do it. He was the first Navy? Yeah, somebody had to do it. I would say underrated because I feel like Jason Born on those guys get that title. But I feel like Dominic Torretto
Starting point is 00:04:59 over the years became probably better than any. He could be in Marvel, I think, at this point. What's the Rocks, the name in Fast and Furious? It's the name of a law. Hobbs. Hobbs. Fam.
Starting point is 00:05:15 When he held that helicopter by that chain, I might have walked out to theater. I might have put my popcorn in the seat. It was like, all, yeah, I got it, man. But Paul Walker and Vin Diesel literally drove a car from one skyscraper to the other, through the window and landed it. I think they got to space at one point, didn't it? They did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:32 That was eight. shout out to ludicrists though we're not going to do that shout out to the legend ludicrous we're not doing Tyrese too it should have been John man the legend Tyrese you know what I'm saying we're not doing that it should have been Jai Ruh and his character from Fast and the Furious One
Starting point is 00:05:53 like he was sort of part of the crew in the beginning yeah what happened to Joe that's we need a spinoff his car wasn't exactly he didn't get that threesome yeah his car was His car wasn't fast enough. Well, anyways, where do you guys want to begin? This week has been, you know, kind of dull, and we just saw each other yesterday,
Starting point is 00:06:12 so I don't really think we need to catch up like that. But I did finish the Diddy Doc yesterday? Diddy Doc? The Reckoning? And I rushed back to the house to watch it because I thought it was going to get taken down because his lawyers did send some C&Ds, which once you get to episode two, you start to see why. Listen, I finished the doc hit last night here.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Before I went home, I was like, let me watch it because I did feel like it was going to be taken down soon since cease and desist was sent out. And I would have been mad because I watched the first two episodes and I was like, oh, shit. Yeah. So let me watch next two. And listen, if everything in that doc is real and true, I think we all like, we all owe a lot of people like, damn, because we watched it happen. Yes. Like years of watching shit. Like it was right in front of us.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Things happened and, you know, one of the things that I did take away from the dock because, you know, you go back and there was, you know, telling things that happened. And then from people that really were close to puff and grew up with them and was there from day one and just hearing the way they spoke about him. And then watching things, you know, that you know happened publicly and things. It was definitely like, damn, like how the fuck did this continue to just happen right in front of us? us and nobody, you know, and y'all know all the time I always say people don't care. Like we pretend like we care and when things happen, like, oh, my God, prayers, condolences.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And then we hit scroll and then there's no more prayers and condolences and things like that. But the documentary did shed a lot of light on a lot of things that I didn't know about, gave the testimony of people that were, you know, spent a lot of years around Diddy, working with him, whether it was personal or just business. And I can see why his lawyers did one of the things. cease and desist because it does, it can paint a different picture for people who supported Diddy over the years. It definitely paints him in an entirely different light, an entirely different perspective of the man that many of us have supported over the years. But overall,
Starting point is 00:08:21 I thought it was a very informative doc. I thought it was, you know, it's fucked up what happened, but it was a good documentary, though. Yeah, that's why, you know, we gave 50 a little bit of shit last episode just because we thought like, all right, is this him just being petty because of their history and his child's mother and like, are we going to get one of those clipped together Hulu docs that is just like, this was a money grab and unnecessary. As far as the dot goes, it was very informative and very well put together. Like episode one was, I thought I really knew the ditty story for the most part. It was a very informative diddy doc, like just in general about his life and his family life.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But once you get to episode two, things do start to fall off the rails. Was there any new information on here for you? I mean, I know we're a little closer to everything than the average consumer when it comes to this type of stuff. Yeah. As far as the music industry. I know a lot of people learned a lot of things for the first time in this doc, which I think is great.
Starting point is 00:09:24 But was there anything in here you were like, yo, what the fuck? Um, well, when they, they said, uh, that the Wallace estate paid for the funeral, but then they came out to prove that that wasn't true. Yeah. That was not pay for Biggie's a funeral. And that was something that I was like, wait, hold up. Like, again, if any of that is true. Yeah. And they're saying that that's not true.
Starting point is 00:09:45 But that was definitely one of the things that I was completely thrown off by, like, I was like, I'd never heard that, never knew that. Um, and if that is true, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, in the docket. It explained it as if Bad Boy paid for the funeral, but it came out of Biggie's recording budget. So it was a line item in a P&L. But this morning, Lauren LaRosa had went on the breakfast club and said she spoke with Biggie's estate slash former manager. And he said he has been on the royalty statements since the very day that Biggie passed away. And that never happened. Bad Boy paid for everything. That wasn't something that came out of Biggie's budget. Okay, so I have a question. This is devil's advocate because I know everybody's bleeding hearts, but don't most humans pay for their own funerals? So when people were like, he didn't pay for his funeral, I'm like, don't most people pay for their own funerals? That doesn't happen? Well, if you have life insurance and things like that, like a policy, yeah, but the thing was the way they said it in the dock made it seem like it came directly out of like money that was his.
Starting point is 00:10:51 So essentially, look, Biggie made bad boy money, right? So even if bad boy paid for it in a way, then Biggie paid for the funeral, right? Yeah. But the way they broke it down, the way they explained it in the dock, it made it seem like, you know, because they were saying,
Starting point is 00:11:06 Puff was saying this is going to be the biggest funeral ever, seven third, but Biggie's going to pay for it. So when you hear it that way, and you're like, and then they're saying like, yeah, he's the one that came out of the Wallace estate or whatever. It was like, that's a little, crazy if that's if they did it that way. But in a way, yes, you're right. You do kind of, you do pay for your own funeral. It does come out of funds that you have, whether it's life
Starting point is 00:11:32 insurance or, you know, again, being one of the biggest artists in the world at the time for the label, the label pays for it, you can kind of say that you work for it. You grossed that money for the label. So yeah, I get it. But just hearing it that way was definitely like, wait, what do you mean Biggie paid for his own funeral? Yeah, it's more of a moral thing because like how they even paint it. it in the dock with that segment. It was like, all right, big thought he was going to London. Puff said, nah, we're going to go to L.A. to promote the album, even though we know it's
Starting point is 00:11:58 probably not safe. We've been getting death threats. Probably not the best time to go over there, but they were painting Puff's arrogance where he felt like he was so bulletproof. It didn't matter of what the truth was. So he dragged Biggie there to promote an album that was signed too bad boy. Unfortunately, that happens to Big. Then he, to Mall's point, says it's about to be the biggest funeral.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But like, wait, does Miss Wallace want it to be the biggest funeral? funeral. If you're paying for it, all right, like, cool, you can bad boy up this entire thing. Yeah, that makes sense. If you're paying for it. Then right after that, he was supposed to get the cover of Rolling Stone, like a few weeks after the funeral. And that was crazy. Which I've heard that before. That. I'm pretty sure that's factual. That was crazy. So right after, allegedly, you don't pay for the funeral. Now you switch the cover that was supposed to, you know, honor your best friend. You switch it to you because you have to do the no way out shit. your leading single, which made you God knows how much money,
Starting point is 00:12:52 is I'll be missing you, which you promote immediately, which I get, it's a tribute song. But we know Puff's mind. Of course he was mourning, but he's going to take advantage of that moment. And yeah, it looked all nasty when you add all those things together if Biggs family indeed had to pay for the entire thing. But it turned out that that was not the case,
Starting point is 00:13:10 and Puff did pay for it. But still nasty. Well, if so, if that can be questioned, then don't we now, question the integrity of the entire doc? Well, that's, that's why lawyers love this type of shit and why I know they're going to amplify that Biggie's estate said this, because, you know, it's similar to what we even saw with Diddy's sexual assault cases, where we saw the Cassie one and we saw the footage, but then
Starting point is 00:13:36 a bunch of people came out the woodworks where stuff looked like, all right, this is true over here, but this seems like some bullshit, money grab, kicking while he's down, maybe he'll settle type of thing. and that's what lawyers used to be like, see, this case is bullshit, so everything must be bullshit. And that's never really what it is. Yeah. Like sometimes misunderstandings happen in there. I don't know if there was much in the doc that couldn't be proven to be true outside of that one.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I mean, I think the Tupac thing, they didn't say it in a fact. They alluded to it, but which I mean we can discuss, do I think just speculation. No one knows this to be a fact. Do I think that Puff probably said to some gang members, in passing or in a room, put some money on their heads. Yeah. I do think that happened. But do I think the people that allegedly killed Tupac went to Vegas
Starting point is 00:14:31 with the thought, we're going there to kill Tupac so we can get the bounty money that Puff put up? No, I think Pock punched the wrong Crip that had a beef with the people he was rolling with and Crips do what Crips do. And that was And then they Whether there was a bounty or not
Starting point is 00:14:51 I think those crips do what they did regardless Now once it's done I might as well go collect some money for it too Yeah that was the kind of what I took from it It was something that just happened to Happen that night After a conversation however many Days or weeks ago
Starting point is 00:15:06 So it kind of lined up that way But you know Overall the documentary to me Just It gives a different perspective on somebody that we've only known publicly. Not much personal knowledge of the type of person that he is. But just again, to hear those people talking,
Starting point is 00:15:27 I forgot the gentleman's name that was actually with Bad Boy from day one, who he took the 25% stocking Bad Boy from. Just hearing him talk and, you know, it's like guys like that, you know, here's somebody that we've never heard from. I've never seen him sit down and talk about that. I just don't think that he would sit there and fabricate something at this point. Like, what does he have to gain from that?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah. You know, I mean, his story, his truth, whatever happened and, you know, why he signed over the 25% that he owned a bad boy. I mean, I just think that he, I don't think that he has to lie about those type of things and circumstances that happened around that whole thing. But overall, I mean, it was very informative. It shed some light on a lot of things. hearing from testimony from certain people, even some of the jurors spoke about why they didn't find him guilty on, you know, the sexual assault charges and things like that. And the juror said it.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It was like, yo, it's hard to, you know, find him guilty of that. Yes, we see the tape and we see the video of him assault and a woman, but then we also have footage of them hours late at a gala together. And I know how, you know, abuse is, whether it's physical, whether it's verbal, you know, whether it's mental, you know, people are victims and, you know, but it's hard to tell a jury to find somebody guilty of this when you have more footage, you know, them on vacations together after that and this, that, and then it's like, well, yes, we do think that this was toxic, this was wrong, things happen, but at the same time, do we find him guilty of these things
Starting point is 00:17:04 because it does take, you know, it takes too. And to give the jurors some grace there, too, I blame more of, the prosecution like yeah we all saw the cassey tapes like not that's not what he was charged for do i think did he is a guilty human being of course i do yeah but you guys put up a bunch of shit that you couldn't even really prove happened and all the stuff that we did know to be true he's not charged for so if i'm a juror i'm sitting there like yeah i think guys a piece of shit but this is this is the system america has made where you have to prove the charges that you have right here and you're not doing that so what am i supposed to do yeah
Starting point is 00:17:42 Say he's guilty for something that's not in the court right now? I can't do that. The one thing that stood out to me in the doc was how around every tragic thing that happened in his life, he was the one that came out of it, you know, whether it's like his career elevated out of each of these tragedies. And that's kind of like, that raises a eyebrow. Like, how come you the only one that benefited from these tragedies?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Like, life got, you know, from the, I guess from what we see and what we know, it seems like life got better for you after these tragedies. Success happens, you know, and it's like, why is that? To me, that's the one thing I took from the doc. Like even going back to the city college, you know, stampede that happened.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You know, at that time, Puff was just a party promont in the city. Young kid, throwing parties, you know, bringing people together trying to have a good time. But even out of that, there was an elevation. You go to get the Uptown after that. You know what I'm saying? And then you and Andre Harell fall out. And then you take what you learn from Andre Horel where, you know, like I'll be showing
Starting point is 00:18:50 these people was talking. Like, none of these guys got really paid from uptown. Like they got that day advanced. But after that, a lot of these artists struggled. Go to Bad Boy, you start your thing. A lot of those artists can say the same thing. Craig Mack has, he's Grammy nominated. He has a number one song and barely pays bills.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And then he asks you for much. and his wife says you pull out a $100 bill and give it to him. It's like for people to have these stories, it's like something, somebody ain't, everybody can't be lying. Like that's just my thing. When everybody gets to talk and it's like- Water smoke, there's fire. Yeah, everybody can't be lying.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Now, is there some things that, you know, is it 100% true and maybe that's their perspective on how things happen? We understand how things get a little blurry there. But the bottom line is when you look at, you know, the things that happen as far as the tragedies and then look and saw how Puff was able to elevate from that and was the one that kind of became, you know, the star and things like that. It is, it does, it does raise an eyebrow. Like, that's something that you kind of got to look at with a side eye. Like, something ain't right here. Yeah. I mean, Puff came across as probably the greatest self-preservation human being I've
Starting point is 00:20:05 ever seen. To your point, every time something bad happened to everyone, including himself in that circle, he would find a way for everyone else to be the fall people and for him to continue on. No matter what scheme or way he had to go about it, he will always going to self-preserve no matter what, even with the bad boy family. Well, I'm not going down. I got to keep the family movement. Do you think that started around the city college thing? Because I almost watched it like kind of in reverse in my head towards the end, thinking of that moment. Yes, Puff was just a young party promoters to The cops have probably had a better structure there. Should Puff had maybe had better security?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Of course. There's a bunch of what is there. I'm not saying he's completely innocent, but still, he's throwing a charity bastard. He doesn't know about that shit. It's unfortunate what happened. Because he got out of that scot-free and then even said himself at that point, I had never been that famous in my life. I immediately became famous because of a tragedy.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Do you think that started the mindset he had of being so metaphorically, bulletproof in any situation. I can get away with anything. I can have someone Shug's man in front of a fucking club in Atlanta. It's going to happen to me. I could shoot up a club with J-Lo. Nothing's going to happen to me. That, I think, is where he started to build that mentality along with drugs to just start seeing the world as objects and opportunities. Like, Kim Porter, that was the opportunity. He clearly had a very fragile and crazy ego. So because that was Alby Shores girl, I'm a gooder. He says his other baby mother.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Oh, that's somebody else's. 50's baby mother. He has that mentality where this isn't because I want that woman. It's because I want that object opportunity and ego boost for the people around me. Yeah. That, I think, just built more and more throughout the years because he never really took an L. Yeah. I like, I don't get it, but I could see how that trajectory mixed with pink cocaine
Starting point is 00:22:03 could get you to the place that he treats the world the way he does. Of course I can beat up Cassie. Why can't I do that? Look at everything I've done and gotten away with. It's almost like he has like the mentality of like that rich kid that had a billionaire father that knew they could do anything and dad will get him out of it. But Puff would get himself out of it. Yeah. I think he had that same mentality as the years went on.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Well, I mean, people that grew up with him and they spoke to that. Yeah. How they started to see the change. And then Mark Curry was talking about the intro and the album. things he was saying, you know, now he's talking like a gangster. I put a million dollars on your head and get you raised. And he's, Marcus, like, the fuck. What?
Starting point is 00:22:45 When did that? Like, when you start talking like that? Like, so, you know, you got to look at those things and kind of say, okay, yeah, where did it? Where did it start? And I think the documentary did a good job at kind of trying to point that out, like, when the ego came into play, when the God complex came into play. And then, you know, talking to people who were directly. close to him who was speaking to certain things that they saw and experienced.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And, you know, and again, you see watch it. You take what you take from it. I don't think I learned too much. I mean, it was interesting to see them put everything together from the very beginning of, you know, Puff being a party promoter and trying to get into the industry to where he ultimately ended up today. I thought they did a good job with that. But overall, I mean, you know, definitely probably one of the better diddy documentaries, I think I watched. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely in a way different way up there with the Apple music.
Starting point is 00:23:41 What was that? Can't Stop Won't Stop. About just Bad Boy in general. I think I maybe like that one better because I didn't know about all of the shit where it was like, oh, I can enjoy the music and the artists. And this, you know, was obviously a tough watch. But back to the God Complex thing, did you ever see the Anthony Weiner documentary? I suggest everyone go back and what. It's a very fascinating documentary just about.
Starting point is 00:24:05 the last year of him in politics and him getting caught again when he was running for mayor. Like everyone kind of forgave him and then it was like, wait, you're still sending dick pics to young girls? Like, fuck is wrong with you? They filmed the entire thing. And the whole time I'm watching it, I'm going, why is Anthony Wiener allowing them to film this? Why am I able to see these moments? I felt that would puff two of the God complex. Why are you being filmed in a hotel talking to your lawyer that way about what type of defense that you need? Yeah. Like, where in your brain, why are you filming this? That was the one thing.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Even with the Diddy Dog, it's like, how did 50 get his hands on this? So, like, how does that happen? There's been conflicting reports, but what I did see that seems like it would be the most truthful one, Netflix was somewhat involved with Diddy shooting a documentary going into the trial stuff. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Because Puff was very confident in his God complex that he was going to be found innocent. And once again, to your point, he would try and fall from ashes. And here comes Puff with this dock of like, damn, look what we put him through with the trial and he was innocent the whole time. I think that's what Puff had in mind. Okay. And I think Netflix was already involved.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Once you get arrested, I don't really know what happens with the rights of stuff or if anyone got paid. Netflix may have owned that footage. Yeah. And then, you know, here comes 50. You guys own what? Yeah. I know editor. Wait, wait, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:25:24 I know an editor. I know an editor. 50 probably opened his MacBook and was like, you know what, I'll do it. Yeah, man. The part with Little Rod, Little Rod, is his name? Yeah, man. I feel bad for him, man. I don't feel bad laughing at some of the stuff that was in the reports just because how it read,
Starting point is 00:25:42 I think as humans were allowed to laugh sometimes when something appears to just sound funny when you read it in paperwork. But once, like, he humanized it and you heard it from him. Yeah, I was like, damn, he got done dirty. I'm sorry, man. Yeah, they did him dirty. Outside of the adult grooming, producer grooming, also, what do you get like? 17k or some shit? No, you said he got
Starting point is 00:26:06 29,000 for producing that album? And then those voice notes, like pure, God complex manipulation, like, Puff, I was just on a Yawood.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You spent a hundred grand on gas for that thing. Can you pay me the money that you already said you owed me? How much did he said that he owed him? I didn't watch some of me. He said 250 was what he was supposed to get for producing on a love album.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. He ended up getting, yeah, like 29,000. 29,000 out of $250,000 that Pope said he was going to give him. Yeah, man, it's tough, man. And it's not, and you know, the fucked up part is there's so many people that have a story like that in the industry. I do some incredible records, incredible songs. And, you know, just because you're chasing the dream.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And, you know, you get flown out to fucking Italy on a yacht with, you know, somebody that you looked up to as a kid. And now you're working with him and producing music with him. And he's telling you, you're going to give you $250,000. You're like, fuck it, whatever I got to do to get this album done. And, you know, like, if I got to witness some crazy shit, if I got to be a part of some crazy shit, you know, it's just, it's fucked up. But people pray on people like that because they know that they need that opportunity. And they, you know, they need that moment to kind of like be able to, like you said, take care of his family and his kids and have his kids be able to take care of their kids. That's what he was chasing.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And that was, that was his, you know, his goal. But voice knows, man. Puff was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know, you know what I'm saying? I know you ain't going crazy. I was like that manipulation. Oh, yeah. And then like now I feel like I got to look at you crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah, like I don't want to look at you crazy. Like, wait, I'm crazy because I'm asking for the money that you said that you would pay me. You came up with that number. I didn't come up with that number. Yeah, it's tough. But that's also like, and I won't say it doesn't happen in other businesses, but adding on to why the music industry is so fucked. fucked up. A lot of that weird shit can happen in the environment of creating music. Like blocking out for the love sessions. Shit, I came on the spot. I went to one of the love
Starting point is 00:28:09 sessions. I was trying to get on that fucking album. Nothing crazy was happening in there at all. But when you're blocking something out for a month, yeah, if I leave at 1 a.m., I don't know what the fuck is happening at 3 a.m., but a lot of producers are still there, actually there just to make music. Now you're complicit into this whole thing. Like, I don't think Little Rod did anything wrong when they went to the strip club on the boat. You know, take this bad boy hat on. They know what it means. Like, I'm here to produce, man.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Like, but I get why little Rob would just be like, all right, man. We just have, yeah, you want me to go get some girls. Like, I'm not doing anything wrong, but not realizing that you are now complacent in a way bigger sex ring right now that you have no idea. You're thinking, oh, he said I'm the next member of the hitman. I'll take a bad boy hat. Let me walk around the strip club with it, not knowing that you are now, they know that's the, the, the, the flag.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Oh, there's the guy that we need to go to to sell pussy. Yeah. Perfect. We'll go to him. And Lil Raj's like, well, I'm going back to the studio. Yeah, we're going back to the studio. Yeah, we're going back. Yeah, it was tough, though.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Did you watch it? Did you finish it? No, I didn't. I was just, I haven't even started it. That's why I was. Yeah, you should finish it before it's taken down. Yeah. Because I do think it'll be taken down eventually.
Starting point is 00:29:20 The Aubrey O'Day segment was really tough to watch. I heard about that. I feel for her. I feel for her, she told her story. of somebody on the staff had walked into one of the studios where Puff and another gentleman were having sex with her, she looked really out of it, slump, like she had clearly been drugged. She has no recollection of this whatsoever, but you could imagine the toll that would put on you if somebody was like, I 100% know I walked in on you, Puff and another gentleman having sex.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And you're like, that never happened. And now you're starting to question everything because you know there's been crazy practices with shit getting drugged and this and that. And she even said, if this person's lying and I keep going with it, now that gives Puff's team even more ammo. And she's like, I know fucked up things happen. So if I pursue this and it ends up not being true, now it's like, hey, look, they're lying over here. Yeah. So she's in a weird, conflicted position there.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I can't imagine. Because that came out in one of the civil supercuisers had said that in her affidavit. that I can't imagine hearing that for the first time like oh yeah by the way he he raped you too he was like knocked out slumped and he's like what yeah that's wow that's like what idea that's because now you're wondering how many times did that happen if that happened how many times did that happen was that only happened once but this is my this is again and you know I watched it for whatever you know just to gain different perspective on things and events that happened.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But now what? Like, what happens now? Like, who cares? Because even at the trial, you had people outside the courthouse with baby oil saying free ditty. Just at a third. Like, we all saw the tape. We all saw him tell us. When the Cassie lawsuit first came down, he came out, posted on his page.
Starting point is 00:31:13 These lies are disgusted in the third. A couple days later, we get the video of him assaulting Cassie in the hotel. And then we get him sitting down on his phone to my. he's in a dark place and he needed help and this and the third. So right there, now we already know you're lying, you're a liar. Because you just told us that this girl was lying and then the footage came out. And now you're saying you was in a dark place. So now we already know that you're lying.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So what else are you lying about? But again, what does it mean? Because people still stood next to him after that Cassie video came out. People still supported him after that Cassie video. Him in Harlem, shaking hands, hugging him. That was after the Cassie video. came up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So this is what I'm saying. So this is what I'm saying. So with this doc, with him doing, being sentenced to 50 months, you know, with us seeing all of the footage and hearing all the testimony and this down and third, what does it mean? What changes? What happens? Because we still have, we got plenty of people out here that have been accused of things
Starting point is 00:32:15 that people support. We got a lot of artists that have been accused of sexual assault. These niggas are still getting. book that club shows women still throwing themselves all over these niggas. So what my thing is cool. I watch the doc. Great. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:32 I think they did a great job editing. Coloring, color grade was great. All of the things. It was scored. It was scored. It was scored. Good. The music.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Everything is good. Now what? What happens now? Because again, you still have people that support these people even after these things are exposed. So what is it for? I mean, you lose things like Brandeels and the ability to win a Grammy, but that's really it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Because the people that want to support you are still going to support you. Now, do you have kind of like the casual fan support anymore? No, but you're going to have support. Because people don't give a fuck about women. They do have the casual fans. Them niggas in Harlem was casual fans that was trying to take pictures with this nigger and shake his hands and giving them they coat off their back. Those was casual niggas.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah. Those were some people in the industry. When I think casual, when I think casual fans, or is that somebody just wants a photo? That's, yeah. That's support. Yo, love you, Puff, love you, Diddy. That's cool support. When I think support, I think monetary support.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah. Support that puts money in his pocket. And when I refer to casual fans, I'm not talking about regular people versus people in the industry. I mean people who are Diddy fans versus people who might check out Diddy's new album if they come across it. Like, that's what I mean by casual fans. So he's still going to have support. but it won't be as much. But yeah, people don't give a fuck if you be
Starting point is 00:33:54 or rape women. Nobody cares about that. They somehow fine. It would have blamed the women. They don't. No one cares. I'm with you on that. I really feel that way.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Like I said, do you have people that have came out and accused people of rape and sexual assault? Didn't change nothing. Yeah. Like people, it's just like people hearing them like, oh shit, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:15 All right, well, praise and condolences. And then next week is something different. And it's like, so who really, what is the, what are documentaries like this for? Is it just to make us aware and get people to get their stories out and their testimony? Because I really don't see, now granted, he's been sentenced to 50 months. I'm sure he can't wait to get the fuck out of it. And, you know, life is completely different for him.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So he's feeling a blunt of all of this shit. But when he comes home and he's free and he's back, what happens after that? I'm just, I'm not, you don't have to answer it. But that's what my thinking is that. I was like, okay, then what? after these 50 months, what happens? Does he have no brand deals at all? I don't see that happening.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I see brands waiting for shit to die down. As soon as they feel like the coast is clear, they're going to peep outside. It'll be another billboard in Times Square soon. I can see that happening. I'm just saying I can see it happening. I don't know about this one. And I mean, I hear you guys.
Starting point is 00:35:11 That's the unfortunate part of these cases is like. Tom stamp it. Tom stamp me saying it. All right. Nobody like unfortunately cares about that. but I do think there is value in the story getting out there. And I'm not a person that thinks any mistake should ruin someone's legacy, but this was not a mistake.
Starting point is 00:35:28 This was who this person was for years and years and years and years. So the fact that that is out and has been exposed, I do think it's important for these types of stories to be told and for people to know. What happens with that? I'm not sure because, again, you can't even control what a fan or casual supporter is going to take with this information. but to his God complex, it's the first time Puff has taken a real L.
Starting point is 00:35:54 That's important. Even if it's just one person, like, does this doc and Puff getting arrested change the music industry? Is there no longer going to be sexual assault in the music industry? Of course not. People are still going to be sexually harassed,
Starting point is 00:36:05 unfortunately, still sexually assaulted, but at least with one of the most important figures in music history, he was taken down a peg, no pun intended. Like, finally, he can't keep winning through all this shit. Like you can't keep treating people this way and continuing to win and you look like a god to the public, but you're the devil privately. Like I do think it's important that that type of stuff gets out not only for victims, but for everyone else. Even if there's not
Starting point is 00:36:33 the justice that we think is deserved in this case, sometimes you have to settle for tax evasion when you can't get somebody. Somebody, they just have to sit down just for a second because that's all we can do. And I don't think, do I think, do I think, Puff is going to be rehabilitated? Probably not. But do I think Puff is going to second guess every decision he makes? Thank God. Because before I never even had to.
Starting point is 00:36:58 He beat everything. Yeah. Every crazy situation he beat. It's just tough, man, because, again, I'm on the side. I don't, I just don't see the same. I think a billboard is a bit crazy. Do I think Puff is going to completely disappear? No.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Do I think he'll probably build his own. businesses without, you know, the backing of Diageo or whoever he had before. Yeah, he's puff. He's an entrepreneur. He's going to keep doing that. You know, his kids are still very much active in making music and doing stuff. He's going to be around, but I don't think you're going to get the fistballed up in Times Square. I just, I can't see that. Maybe not the fistballed up. That, yo. Maybe the prayer hands. Yeah. Yeah. I could definitely see that. We'll see Prey Hands at Tom Square. Well, this is disgusting.
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Starting point is 00:40:06 And he's like, yeah, be about to go deposit $200 million. She's like... Is that confirmed that that was Young Miami? It appeared to. I didn't. I don't think that was. Yeah, I was going to say, they... Because I didn't, at first, that was my first thought. But then that's what the entire timeline was.
Starting point is 00:40:19 say. So I was like, oh, I don't, I'm not up on my city girl. Like, I can't spot a city girl right away. I couldn't really see the phone like that to be able to tell it that well, but I didn't, it didn't sound like. And the people I know who listen to Young Miami, who watched the doc, nobody got it was young Miami. I think people think it's Gina or whoever. Glad that was cleared up at least, but. Oh, Dana, Dana Tran. Then he had a baby with her, right? Yep. He's a baby mother. Yeah. Dana Tran. Yep. I mean, I don't know. I would have liked to hear from Cuddy. no that wasn't going to happen you know he's not sitting there and talk to no fucking for no documentary like hell no he mad he had to fucking be it didn't he go testify in the trial yeah yeah i don't
Starting point is 00:41:04 know he pissed he had to do that like I don't leave me alone where his Fonsworth bentley at listen where is he at a taylor I don't know like that's what I'm saying it's a certain guy there's certain ones I got like like what's up fan like we we we we we'll What's going on? You ain't got nothing to say? Like, at all? Like, you just, it's just straight up disappeared and I'm not in the spotlight no more. I don't want to talk to the camera.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Don't want to see it. Does he even have an Instagram? Listen, man, he got out of Dodge, got the right time. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, we, listen. He disappeared by choice. Yeah, like, we got. He had a hit record with Andre 3,000, Kanye West.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. And they didn't even put the band back together. Yeah. It's just like, where is he at, man? Does he have Instagram? He does? What are he talking about on his Instagram? prayer hands
Starting point is 00:41:52 Why he posts a lot You blocked? Okay Imagine Josh blocked by Fonsworth Chuck Fonsworth Oh yeah he posts He posts him quotes Yeah, all right
Starting point is 00:42:06 Yeah I see what time it is What he said? What he said? How your life, wait Everybody can be great All right, thank you Josh Everybody can be great
Starting point is 00:42:16 because everyone can serve When did he post that? January 15th, 2024 Oh yeah, he's been chilling Yeah. I know what that means. Whenever they post that, it's like,
Starting point is 00:42:30 yo, listen, man, don't come over here with no, I don't want to talk to nobody. Listen, I support everyone's consensual lifestyle. Can you imagine, out of all the love sessions, you're the producer that's picked to do this whole shit.
Starting point is 00:42:46 You play every instrument. You finally are on your way to follow your dream and then Puff takes his phone and shows you him fucking a white guy in the ass. And you're just looking at Ableton, like, this isn't how I thought it would go.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I never saw life going this way. Never saw that. This didn't happen in eight-mile, get Richard I trying to. That's what he said. That's what little rise said. He said, that's what I've showed him that. Again, we just talked.
Starting point is 00:43:14 He was raping a man. No, he was having consensual sex with a man. But let's just say this is real. That's nuts. That's fucking crazy. I mean, That's not nuts. It's nuts to show it to your producer, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:28 No, no, no. Having sex with a man, that's what you want to do. That's what you do. But I'm showing it to a producer who's just sitting there playing keys and like trying to find the chords. He didn't even ask to see that. What can you in? This one.
Starting point is 00:43:42 That's the part that's crazy. Like, Lil Rob was here with it trying to figure it out. Like he was trying to figure out which chord was going. The chord progressions and all that. He liked this finger movie. Yeah, but yeah, but you can't just be like, yo, check this out. That's how I give it up last night.
Starting point is 00:43:54 come on fan That's And then I'd start like Internally thinking like Why do you think it was okay to show me that I don't think he showed D-Dot that Yeah not D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. But yeah
Starting point is 00:44:07 I don't think D-D-I I don't think he would ever go to D-D Do some shit like that Not at all Why'd he do that to me? Yeah Black Rob didn't see that Hell no
Starting point is 00:44:14 You ain't show whatever you don't show Black Rob don't show me fam That's how I would have walked in the- That's the rules Yeah whatever you know I don't show black rob Don't show me Black Rob the accounting
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah, that part is very true. But yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know. I think the doc will be taken down soon, but I, you know, I'm glad I caught it. Glad I watched it. Prays to all of the victims and, you know, people that were affected by this. That beat for Bieber. I want to hear more from Little Rock production-wise.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I knew he did a lot. I didn't know he did that Justin Bieber record. That beat was crazy. Yeah. But it's crazy what he was endured when he was making. Like, what inspired. him to find that was that video which is just like only rory would somehow like music nerd out over like the did he like yo the producers i ain't know this nika did this record was so
Starting point is 00:45:05 what's so fucked up out of the obvious selfish reasons that love album is fucking incredible yeah it's it hurt me to have to under yeah that that having to leave my apple music was like yeah because that came out and then when did those have what two weeks later not two weeks but it was I think maybe six months, maybe six months. Less than that. I think a month. I don't know. I think a month.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah. What date did the love album come out? So love album came out September 15th and then November 16th. Cassie put out her paperwork. Yeah, so two months. Damn, there to the date. That's crazy. Yeah, we barely enjoyed the album.
Starting point is 00:45:44 When they came out, we spoke about it. We did. We praised it. And then. It was on repeat for two months. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of those that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:55 was nerding out because that album is fucking incredible. But, I mean, I suggest everyone watching before it gets taken down if it can get taken down. I don't think he can. I don't know how, I'm not even a Twitter lawyer, let alone. I don't know how that works. Like what? Yeah, I feel like if- I mean, fighting Netflix on getting some shit taken down is, because I don't feel like Netflix,
Starting point is 00:46:15 Netflix has one hell of a team, boy, they're going to cross their eyes and dot their eyes before. But then even like the stuff that's on Netflix, Doc-Wy-W-W-E-W-E. already. Like, then they'd have to take down to every doc, period. Like, there's so many docs that are just like, even just allegations. He say, she say.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, like, it's not even a... As long as you say, allegedly, you cool. Yeah. So I don't know how much luck they'll have with it. I see why his team would want to file something, but I don't know if it. I mean, maybe game screaming free ditty'll get it done.
Starting point is 00:46:48 What was that about? Game being game. That's your boy. Yeah, but what was that about, though? Like, sometimes your boy. do shit and you got like yeah what was you doing what game has as has had so many moments like that i've stopped trying to figure out the why i just feel like niggas is too old for certain shit man like free ditty free all kelly what is what is what is that first of all you're saying
Starting point is 00:47:16 free ditty ain't freeing him he ain't coming home sooner because you said that you just wanted us to all know that you yeah and it's like i just i just don't understand i it's a lot of shit that you know, we just allow in our culture that it's just like, bro, like, it's a lot of just weird, corny shit that we just let happen. And free all the freaky homies. I was just about to say, free all the freaky homies is. Keep all the freaky homies inside. Since nobody else ain't going to say it, free cows, free that man, free ditty, free all the
Starting point is 00:47:47 freaky homies, some baby oil and some peepee, free the guys. I don't see nothing wrong with freeing the guys. And then later commented, reacted to the video in the comment section on TMZ and said, alcohol is a strange fruit. Oh, well, happy holidays. guys. Nah, stand on your shit. Oh, so he tried to say he was drunk. He didn't even try to say that. Alcohol is a strange fruit.
Starting point is 00:48:06 We know it's fermented wine. I mean, it's fermented fucking grapes. We know. But stand on your shit. Yeah, I don't. I don't know, man. I just thought, you know, I just think when you're somebody like game who has been through what you've been through in the industry and, you know, seeing the things that you've seen and you now have kids that are old enough to kind of like know what's going on, what happens in the world. you got to be very careful of the things you say man but don't he got cases against him too allegations
Starting point is 00:48:34 allegations yeah I don't know like the full game I feel like you guys mentioned that to me a few months ago or maybe last year or something I wasn't fully familiar with everything that game he's never been to court for anything like that no I think he lost the settlement that was like $10 million a civil case not a criminal that had to do with
Starting point is 00:48:52 some type of sexual Purcellarini from his show The game loses California home to sexual assault accuser over $7 million debt. Okay, so he has to give the game has officially lost his California mansion as a result of a years long legal battle with Priscilla Rainey, a woman who accused the rapper of sexual assault a decade ago. Okay. According to all hip-hop, a judge recently ordered the sale of the property to help satisfy a $7 million judgment awarded to Rainey back in 2016. Oh, shit. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:27 So he wasn't paying her? So they just, what, like, seize his assets or something like that? Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Okay. She accused him of sliding his hand up her, up her dress and in between her legs on one of their off-camera dates during when they were filming the show. And he was apparently kept avoiding the trial. And, yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Well, if you avoid the trial, you're definitely going to lose. But that's a fact. It kind of goes about saying. We were saying 50 is petty. We may need to add Meg the stallion onto the list of Petty Kings. Why was Meg Petty? What she did?
Starting point is 00:50:05 Meg, rightfully so. Filed a lawsuit against bloggers that have lied on her name. She won. But I think her team probably knew what the damages that she would be receiving would be. And for my understanding,
Starting point is 00:50:22 I think it was $59,000 that she won with this case? 59,000? She spent more on her legal team than she won. Yeah, but. But outside of it being petty, it is smart, because now people are going to think twice about posting something about Meg the Stallion
Starting point is 00:50:39 that may not be true. Yeah. They're going to have to fact check and really run through the evidence before posting because she'll go and sue you. Because I know 60K is not a lot to Meg the Stallion, but the person that's lost. Malagrograms.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I mean, I was going to say her name, but I'd assume not in their pockets, but 60K is a lot to me. Yeah. If I lost a court battle for 60K, I would be fucking tight. I would be really fucking tight. I never understood why people gave Meg the shit that they gave up behind that case. But that shit is so weird to me that people just... You can cover and speculate, but you can't just post outright wrong information on somebody.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Oh, no, I agree. There needs to be some checks and balances with that. She definitely was right for taking out to court. But I'm just looking at, you know, how many people still, even as a result of this, like, still feel like Meg is like, you know, she's not the victim. Like they're talking and they come at her like, like, she's not the victim. Like, she's the one that's causing these problems and things like that. Like, it's just very weird the things that people will spend and start to do just because they don't like somebody. And they're not liking somebody that you don't even know.
Starting point is 00:51:48 It's just weird, man. It's so much weird shit that goes on that, you know, we tend to forget. about because it's a lot of shit that happens, but I never understood people just, you know, going at Meg the way they went out through that whole shit. I never, that shit was so weird to me.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Tori Lane's going to buy Spotify. Excuse me? Just so people know what the defamation lawsuit was about, it was for defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and for promoting an altered sexual depiction. So remember the deep fake video of Meg
Starting point is 00:52:22 that it looked like a porn. Yeah. It's a deep fake of her face. That blogger was... As you should be. Posting that around. If that's not me,
Starting point is 00:52:32 don't say it's me. Mm-hmm. Like she promoted that deep fake video. That's, yeah. Megan has been accusing her of being paid by Tory Lane's to continue on a smear campaign. But to make that clear,
Starting point is 00:52:52 in the lawsuit, she was not found guilty of that. They didn't have proof of that. Okay. Graham's testified that she has spoken with touring lanes but claimed any payment she received were for personal reasons or unrelated promotional work. And they can't prove that- They found that loophole. Yeah, they can't prove that the money was for Samoa can't-Pay-Pay.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah, you know how you see how you find that loophole. You know what I'm saying? That was a gift. Don't worry about it. That's crazy. That's like not cheating, practicing non-monogamy. Yeah, yeah. While we're here, let's go to our senior bisexual analyst, Dimer.
Starting point is 00:53:26 What's up with your girl, Ariana Grande? She's fine. I don't know, man. I think those Hollywood spells might be true. Listen, I went to go see Wicked, too. I saw Wicked One. And Wicked, I don't know. I'm going to say Wicked 2.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I think it's called Wicked Good something. I don't know the name of it. Sounds like a Boston. Mark Wahlberg movie. Listen, I love Cynthia. I love Ariana, so I want to go see it. But like, there's something weird happening. Something, okay, let me not say weird,
Starting point is 00:53:55 because weird can come across. wrong way. There's something different happening with Cynthia and Ariana. Their appearance is very different from when they first did the first wicked now. It's just like what what is happening? What's going on? Like is it a pack that they made? Are they on the same, you know, diet or something now? Like what are you referring to their weight loss? Their physical appearance. They're just their energy towards each other. Okay. When they're doing it when it comes to not to interrupt you, But when it comes to their physical appearance, have we or have we not learned anything from Chadwick? We don't comment on people's physical appearance when they lose a lot of weight because you don't know what's happening.
Starting point is 00:54:33 But that's why I said something is different. I didn't say weird. I said something is different. I'm not trying to pull fun at it. I'm just saying where I'm looking at them before Wicked One came out. And I'm looking at them after Wicked 2 came out on their press run. And they just look, their energy is very different. Their physical appearance is very different.
Starting point is 00:54:53 What is happening? Like, again, I'm not the strange guy here. My eyes and my brain work. I'm looking at something and saying something that's different about these two women. This is not the same energy that I'm used to from Cynthia. There's not the same energy I'm used to from Ariana. So like, what is, what is, and then we're seeing things on, I'm not, obviously not the only one that's noticing that everybody online is speaking to it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 So what exactly is going on with these two? I don't know them. So I don't know. What I will assume is that after there, viral moments from the first wicked that they're now trolling y'all i think that's what happened i think they're trolling the fuck out of y'all i won't comment on their on their alleged body whatever but when it comes to like their relationship they have a they have bodies their relationships and their relationship and how close they are and the finger the viral finger holding me all they're at this point because
Starting point is 00:55:46 they've gone viral for that so much i think they're trolling y'all i think it's amazing fucking promotion and i think it's working that's that's what i think it is i don't think that ariana and you're right are gay and in a relationship or there's some weird shit. I don't care about that. That's not even what I was talking to. I'm just saying like their energy, the way they speak, the way they just, it's just something totally different about them. And it only seems like it's when they're together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Because they're trolling. That's like. But why? They don't need to troll. Like people are going to go see these. They're two stars. People are going to go see this movie. Because sometimes trolling is fun.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Sometimes trolling is fun. And also I think that they're probably really close. they probably have a very close relationship. But trolling is fun. Especially when it gets people on podcasts and in the blogs and everybody talking about you. Like, why not? This is Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo. People are going to talk about them regardless.
Starting point is 00:56:41 No. They don't have to be acting like this for people to talk about them. And some of the biggest artists in the world will still troll because it's fun. Because it's fun. It's literally, like, because it's fun to have people up in an uproar and you. sitting up in your fucking $17 million home looking at the fucking videos people are posting on Instagram sending it to each other like look at these fucking idiots now when they document you come out in five years what would they say what do you expect the document and they say
Starting point is 00:57:07 that these two they're two now two witches of whatever I'm going to come back to you and say now the wicked witch of West Hollywood yeah now when they're really witches now they're really taking on this wicked thing and now they're witches for real I'm going to come back to Demarison, like, okay, now, let's speak to this. Are they still trolling us? Because something is, I listen, man, I love it. I only went to see the movie because I love both of them. Like, I don't, that's not my type of movie to go watch.
Starting point is 00:57:33 So I was like, yeah, I've seen part one, part two is out. I love there, you know, the performance, they're singing. I was like, yeah, let me go see it. But I'm just looking at everything and I'm just like, something is different with this time around. Like, what is, it wasn't like this for part one. So like, I'm dazzle, I'm speaking of this. You just a concerned citizen.
Starting point is 00:57:51 That's all. I'm just, listen, I'm just a fan, you know. I'm just a fan of two. The last note, Cynthia, that Cynthia hit? Can I hit that? Pete stop playing. It's him repeating everything Pete said back to him just to make sure he didn't make him fake.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I'm like, wait, what are you talking about? Like, come on, man. No, absolutely not. I want to ask Demaris, have you ever been in the situation or seen the situation with two female best friends? You know the women that are besties? They're not bisexual, with their besties and they're fake gay with each other. Like, they would never, like,
Starting point is 00:58:21 just blow hookah smoking each other's mouth. Yeah, they would never bump coochies. They're not like, but they'll, you know. Bump Coochee. They'll kiss after the hookah thing just for like laughs or like do a selfie. They're not really bisexual. They're just drunk and besties. Has there been a situation where one wasn't doing the bestie play?
Starting point is 00:58:41 And the other bestie had to find that out the hard way. Yes, that happens very well. When one wasn't doing the bestie, what? Sometimes one girl is actually bisexual and this isn't just fun, Festy energy at the hookah spot. She's here for game time. Some of them don't know, though. She wants to bump koochis.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Some of them don't know, though. Some of them don't know. Some of them don't know what? So some women will have that relationship with a close friend of theirs and not realize that they're really sexually attracted until they've been doing the whole fake gay thing. And it's like, oh, like, it's stirring up feelings at me. Yeah, for sure. That's how I found out I was gay.
Starting point is 00:59:16 How did you find out you were gay? I found that out from playing gay and realizing, oh, I'm not playing. Yeah, I found that out when I was younger. Now was the bestie, she was bisexual and was trying to turn you out? No. No. Okay. Nope.
Starting point is 00:59:31 She was straight. And this is something that y'all would do when y'all was like hanging out. No, just, just, I don't want to get too deep into detail with it for her own protection. But yeah, like, yeah. Her own protection is crazy. No these days. This is your friend. They put our adters on the internet.
Starting point is 00:59:47 So, I mean, exactly. So, you know, DeMara's finding out she's gay. because she was just playing around this fucking hilarious. Br, it happens. It happens a lot. It happens a lot. Every episode of Euphoria. It's like, I wasn't gay, I am now gay.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Oh my God, that is hilarious. I'm sure that happens a lot. But sometimes like, you know how we talked about- What I tell me guys don't play gay games with me. You gonna find out what? No, I'm not. What male besties do that? But you know the game.
Starting point is 01:00:15 White people, white frat boy? Yeah, y'all play the games. Y'all, y'all do the games where y' you know. I get drunk and kiss my homeboys. No, no, no. But like, grab a ball in the locker room. I have never grabbed a ball in the locker. If it ain't a basketball.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I'm not having a ball, period. Like, you know, you know the games that white boys play. Like, I'll be standing here and talking to a girl. My wife and come up behind me and pull my shorts down. Yeah. So, like, you know what? Okay. So that's our games.
Starting point is 01:00:36 The frat games. The frat games. I play those type of games. I never played. Slap each other's ass, but like gripping the cuff. Good game, but you gripped the cuff? No, niggas. We ain't played out in my hood.
Starting point is 01:00:47 That never, that game didn't make it up town. You was a gruff. after a good game is fucking mess. Yeah, like I don't. Like leaving your hand. Yeah, like that, we didn't need that jump shot that bad where you got to grab my ass, bro. I always thought that that good game shit was weird anyway.
Starting point is 01:01:01 That nigga has mad body parts. Why are you tapping his ass? Well, it's not really like, we're not looking at it like tapping his ass. It's kind of like a pat on the back. But it's mad back. Like a man's ass is little as fuck. It's mad back. Pat and the man's back might be gay.
Starting point is 01:01:15 You, nah, you skip the back and go and tap his ass. Yeah, it's a little home. more erotic. Y'all, I'm not here to defend it. I don't fully understand it either, but I mean, I guess because your arms are there after the free throw, it's just like in reaching distance.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I'm not going to try to clean it up. I can't really. I didn't invent it. I'm a victim of that as well. Like, I've done it. I've received it. Like, just be honest, I play ball growing up. But we weren't looking at it like,
Starting point is 01:01:43 yo, that's some weird shit. It was just shit that we did. But on the court. And then the nick can fuck around. Don't like have no meat on your ass. a nigger fuck around and slap you out like good game you and you got a recoil crazy yeah that's jiggling after a future was crazy that's fucking crazy your ass having recoil as a man is wild dog like that's wow and somebody notices it like you got the football tights on they saw it yeah like
Starting point is 01:02:09 because because that's my thing like so you y'all do that to like even no ass even the home because everybody know the football player with the fat ass like we all went to school with the football player with the fat ass you telling me you tapped his ass and you tapped his ass and you ain't feel it, bounced back. Nah, you niggas, it's gay. I don't care. We had on gloves. I didn't play football.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Basketball shorts looser. Yeah. Listen, baby, I'm not here to argue with you, defend it. It's crazy. It is some weird shit. Like, I get it, but, you know, we weren't looking at it through that lens. Some of y'all wasn't. Some of y'all, that's how some of y'all discovered I was gay.
Starting point is 01:02:44 That's the fact. Well, I definitely wasn't looking through that lens. I definitely, I didn't, that's why I stopped playing balls so many years ago. I was like, you know what? That's why you gave up the game? I was like, yeah, the same for me. You would have went to the league if they wasn't slapping asses, right? They wasn't slapping asses.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I might have went pro. I ain't allowed, but might have went pro. That's how straight you are. I gave up a professional basketball. I was like, I don't like that shit. So what happens if you get up after this and Pige goes good pot? Yeah, no, we're not doing it. That's sexual harassment in the workplace.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah, definitely that. One hundred percent. That would be funny if an athlete, because you would have some grounds for them. you're in the workplace. If my teammate smacked me on the ass after a free throw, I'm in the workplace. I'm on the clock. I didn't ask for that.
Starting point is 01:03:29 That's just weird, though. But I get it. But Baby D, I'm glad you shed light on finding out how you're gay. I think that's important. I think women need to hear that. I mean, but I was very young. I won't say which age again because it will expose the friend,
Starting point is 01:03:42 but I was very young. I just think it happens a lot in adulthood because, as we said, women aren't really friends with each other. And they meet, like, a lot of friends at the club and become besties. They'll have IG baddy friends. I think some of them are playing gay
Starting point is 01:03:55 and I think some of them is big people at studio sessions and say that you're your friends. I'm so tired of y'all shooting at women. Y'all be meeting, y'all be meeting niggins at the bar. Y'all be meeting niggins at the bar. Y'all happen to be fucking two bitches. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Now y'all friends. Like, y'all in the studio together, now y' y'all friends. That's survival. If I got a double date, at least like, let me try to get along with, I've never met a random man at a bar and we're still friends to this day.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Let me just put that out there. I don't think I've ever done that either That's never happened That's a wild thing Y'all meet the random homie Of a random homie And now y'all friends Like now y'all boys
Starting point is 01:04:24 Now y'all in a boy shit So you mean like So like if Rory brings a friend in here And like we all kicking it And like now y'all friends Now you're not Well not today I'm not gonna leave here
Starting point is 01:04:32 But like yo that's my friend But like if he's around For the next two, three years And we're hanging out It's how people meet Yeah it's like yeah It's like yeah It's like yeah
Starting point is 01:04:41 It's like damn you didn't know that girl And you got to know And you got to know her And married her But the marriage do the same thing What would I do? Hi, we're not doing it. We ain't gonna do that.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, we're not right. Not this week. Not this week. Not this today is not, this is not the week. This is not the week for that. Okay, I'm sorry. Because I know where you going and before. I don't want to have to steer you out.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I'm not. I'm not. I would never do that. I'm not going there. I'm not going there. What's fucked up is that is a double standard with men. Like women can meet their friends any and everywhere. Men like, yeah, we would look at you a little weird if he was like,
Starting point is 01:05:13 yeah, you know, I was just, you know, having a beer. He was right next to me and we became friends. Yeah, we can't meet each other. I think that guy has something else on his mind. Yeah, we can't meet. We can't. Because then it's like, yo, what's up with your men? Why he keep hitting, trying to talk and text me?
Starting point is 01:05:28 Like, what's that with him? Like, you have to be like, yeah, I met up to them all. And like, we kicked it. And you can't just meet men and be friends with them. But see, that's why the male loneliness epidemic. Y'all ain't got no fucking friends. Because y'all be afraid to meet people. Not afraid.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I just don't fuck with people. you should probably fuck with people just randomly chatting it up with the family you got 400 brothers and sisters you don't need nobody else in your life I got my friends I got I'm cool I don't need like to meet new friends
Starting point is 01:05:54 You had a best friend more Yeah What's his name? Mike Mike? Mike? I ain't ever heard of Mike Why I ain't never met Mike before
Starting point is 01:06:00 Probably I say M Nah it's not It's not bringing a bell either He ever been around He was he came to the uh He came when we had to um He was here when we had to People pull up for the party
Starting point is 01:06:13 Oh you might have left He pulled up after. Oh, no, I think I was, I don't think I was there either. Oh, I, I met him. My God, I owns the store. Oh, shit, yeah. Yeah. He was here.
Starting point is 01:06:22 He came in. You might have left, though. Oh, okay. Yeah, but that's why we grew up together. Like, I might have known him since I was like. So, like, he would say Marl is my best friend? I mean, I don't know if we say best friends. We wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 01:06:33 And we don't put that on it. MySpace top eight. You guys would both be number one. That's a little weird, too, but, like, we know, like, that's, like, that's, like, family at this point. Okay. I was like, I think I was 11 and he was nine when we first met. So is that what makes men best friends? Is that time?
Starting point is 01:06:49 Is it time? Because Rory's best friend has been his best friend since he was like seven to. So I always wonder when men like, because I know what women, it's about who we feel closest to. With men, is it like? Well, for me, well, for me, I'm speaking for myself. It's, yes, time, but it's also experiences. It's also going through things together. And then, like, just that bond of, like, we cannot speak for three months.
Starting point is 01:07:13 like at all and then I can call him we pick up right where we left off three months ago like we don't have to see each other every day he got his life his family I got my life you know what saying it's like yeah it's like we your secret we don't have to like our relationship our bond is not contended on us speaking every day like I don't need to speak to nobody every single day you know what I'm saying like so it's like you know you know what somebody is because y'all've been through some things and loyalty was tested and you know things like that integrity was tested and you just see who somebody is and then you look up and be like damn like we know each other over 30 years like shit is crazy so yeah that's like I can't even say best friend
Starting point is 01:07:54 that's that's family at this point that's not even like a best friend yeah because even like yeah I think women define best friend differently too because there may be people I'm closer with than my best friend at the moment just because of where my life is to your point I'm not speak but that's still my best friend because it's been 30 years but like we don't speak every day. Like I'm probably closer with Raven on like. Raven's your best. Like daily talking about what's going on in my life than him.
Starting point is 01:08:23 But I wouldn't say that Raven's my best, best friend. I don't know. I would say that's your best friend. She's definitely one of my best friends for sure. But I don't know. But that's family. It is. It is.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Raven is family. That's not, that's what I'm saying. I can't put best friend. But your best friend should be family. Like your best friend should be family. Yes. Agreed. I didn't meet my best friend in a bar over at
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah. But also what men require from their friendships is well known that y'all don't require much. Men don't require much. We don't. No, it's just the things y'all require. Those are the important things. Loyalty. Honesty.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Y'all love requiring loyalty and not giving it out. Nah, that's young niggas that do that. There's little boys that don't, that do. Oh, talk that grown men talk, ma. Cheating is a young boy sport. Cheating is a young boy sport. See, who bought up cheating? Or a rich man's board.
Starting point is 01:09:15 That too. But yeah, no. When you, when you loyal, it's just something that you don't even have to think about. It's just who you are. You don't have to think about it.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah. Well, you know what? So don't put me in that box, baby, I'm sorry. On Sunday, my free afternoon, I'm going to go to the bar and just chat it up with a fella.
Starting point is 01:09:35 You should. I'm serious. You never know what you have in common with people. And then y'all be like, girls aren't really friends. You guys to meet each other at a club and suddenly your friends.
Starting point is 01:09:42 It's like, well, yeah, girls make connection and then if hey if i'm getting to know this person and they become deeper in my life they become deeper in my life if not then we get rid of i'm bitch weird if i go to a bar and a random man just starts having conversation with me and he's not the one making my drinks yeah get the fuck away from me he's either gay or i'm getting lied yeah it's one of the other that's just the world we live either he's trying to take me home or he's trying to take my kidney one of the other not exactly not exactly not either way an organ is involved yeah either way it's not happening it's not happening
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm an organ donor that night regardless. Ew. But sometimes, like, I've been to, like, I've been on the phone with a man who was at a bar and, like, there was like a chatty white boy next to him. He's drunk. He just, yeah, he hate his wife. He just needs somebody to talk to. Like, I think that that's, like, as humans that we should.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I don't talk to somebody at an airport bar, but we knew that we're getting on separate flights and never, I don't even want to know your name. Yeah, we'd never seen each other again. What if you guys have, like, you know, you could do business together. Oh, sure. Well, that's different. That's different. Yeah. If the conversation goes there and you find out like he does something and y'all kind of in the same industry, like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:48 And then you guys become friends. I don't know about that. It's a little gay. That's gay. Jersey swapping is gay. What's jersey swapping? After games, athletes will swap jerseys and take photos and now people are doing it outside of the club with their button up shirts. Man, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:11:06 See, that's crazy. I can see Pete's doing that, though. That's definitely Pete's point. That's definitely Peach is bob. That's peach bag. probably be like my whole shit. No, Pete. The Pete, I don't think there's anything wrong with talking to strangers at the bar.
Starting point is 01:11:20 But like to continue on, I get at your local like cheers. Like that guy's there every time you're there. I could see you forming some type of a friendship. But to just go to a random bar, meet a guy. Be like, let's exchange numbers and get lunch. That's crazy. But listen, I know it sounds crazy because it's not. It's just how male brains work.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Because Pige would be with a, he'll be, he'll be similar about any of be women. like he'll be talking to a woman man Pete be no Pete's be talking to mad mad fellas like at the bar bro you heard Pete he said nah the fellas like if you sitting there talking about the game
Starting point is 01:11:55 like that's not holding or like yeah that's different like we're watching the game that's fine but y'all should stop but I've said this plenty of times when y'all say women we can't do anything or women call us gay no it be y'all y'all put so many gay strengths on each other like just be humans and you
Starting point is 01:12:11 would have so much more fulfilling connection No, we're talking shit. Like, of course, if I go to a bar, I've had conversations with. But you can take, you can tell. If y'all getting along, y'all can exchange numbers. No, we're not doing that. Usually, anytime I'm going out, there's a lot of mutual, like, if I'm talking to this person, they know somebody that I know that's here. So that's why I've never found out.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I'm saying just, if I go across the street and just sit down and just start chatting it up. And then you find out you a home, we got a lot of comments. I'm like, hey, come see the office. And you guys are like, how did you meet him? Like, oh, we met at a bar. Fire! I don't know. There's nothing fire about that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Get this fucking random guy out of here before he kills all of us and wears our skin for a fucking jacket. So hold on because let's get into a deeper conversation. And we could have had this on Patreon, but whatever. Is this because men are dangerous? Is it because men are dangerous and we're afraid of men? And you are on your guard?
Starting point is 01:13:03 No. Well, yes. To answer your question, yes, men are dangerous. Well, yes, men are dangerous. I'm not afraid of anything. But it's not, yeah. I don't have a fear. It's just of like,
Starting point is 01:13:11 it's a mental thing of why would a person like this isn't how things go there has to be an agenda here that has to either do with murder or gay murder or gay he was what peach i need to know that the mic picture how was your night he said the dude said how's your night how do you want to end it yeah oh that's that So you did it? Yeah. So you did it. Yeah, we added it like, yeah, we were like drunk as hell. Ah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah, nah. Pete's a people, please. Yeah, he's at the bar talking shit, man. He's pleaser. I can't do that. But I think there are probably like, maybe it's a city thing. Like, maybe that's, we have that mentality. Maybe out like in small towns, like it's, it's common to just meet somebody and be like,
Starting point is 01:14:17 let's be friends. No, you could meet people. We're just talking shit. It's just okay to meet people. But I'm not meeting a random guy at the bar. Then we exchanged the numbers that night. And like, that's just, and then we, and then what? We hang out.
Starting point is 01:14:31 We meet here again tomorrow. Not tomorrow, but maybe later on. Like, you had a good time with him. You want to have another good time? I'm not having, I don't have a good time with men. That's not true. You've had fun with men. No, I don't, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I don't like being around none of you. I have seen, I have been out with you and Biggs. both of you. That's my brother. Ear to ear grings. That's my brother. You're talking about my brother. You been having phone with him since the dawn of time. Bro, 30 something years? Mad fun. You niggas had mad fun together. We lived in on the same block. Easy access.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Across the street from each other. Nobody's calling y'all gay. Y'all have fun together because you allowed. I'm talking about meeting random men at the bar. He was random at one point. Yeah, but we were both. We were kids. What are you talking about? So you need to explore your child like one. No, no, no, no. See, that's how you end up on a documentary. We're talking about. I don't know would happen and I woke up.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Quote Fast and Furious. The first one, when he brings Paul Walker around and his man, Vince is like, yo, you don't know this guy. And he said, there's a time I didn't know you.
Starting point is 01:15:28 He said, yeah, we were six years old. That don't count. We was kidding. We're 25, who is this friend? And Paul was a Fed.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah. Uh-oh. He was a fed. That's what I'm saying. The whole time Vince was right. Like, don't bring this string around us. You have to have a,
Starting point is 01:15:42 you have to have a recommendation. Who is this guy? Where is he from? I think you should date like that, too. I've, I've, until, until, no, I'm not, I think I don't need recommendations. I know you do. I'm saying to our broader audience, I think that people should date like that as well, because I have almost always been like that. I need, my, all of my serious relationships, excluding the most recent one, have come from the recommendation because I need to know somebody who knows you. If they're going around saying you got a, no, I need to know somebody who you got the what? Calmedia. It could be anything.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Okay. But like I need someone who knows you. Like I need to know, like, are you a rat? I need to know someone who knows you. Are you a rat? That would be tough for a woman to find out three or four months in. That you being a rat. A girl stopped talking to me one night because one of my homeboys ratted on her brother.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Like we was having a conversation and like, the energy was. A rat friend. Yeah, the energy was like, is that how you found out? You rat? No, no, no. Funny thing, yeah. I didn't even know. And then we was just talking about like mutual people and I was naming some names.
Starting point is 01:16:48 She was like, wait, from where? And I was like, yeah, so now that's my man. She was like, yo, he ratted on my brother. I was like, what? I said, what? Yo, I'm doing, she, she was like, yeah, nah, like, we can't, we can't hang out. Damn. Yeah, he's a rat.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Straight, I swear to God. Now, I got to go flat, my homie. If I ain't get some pussy because I found out to shoot because she, she know you a rat. And I didn't. I ain't go say that. We had just met, and we, but the vibe was, we was all the way vibing. Like, we was having a good, like, a good night. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Like, we was hanging out. I think we went to a show. We met it at a concert. I forgot who concert it was. But she was friends with somebody else I know. Gunna? And then definitely not gonna. And then we went to like the bar, restaurant or something.
Starting point is 01:17:30 And then just in conversation, just naming people. She told me she was from. I said, yeah, my peoples used to live out there. You know, once you do that, who are your peoples? She's like, wait. She's like, like, how he looked, brown skin? I was like, yeah, she was like, he's a rat. He's a rat.
Starting point is 01:17:46 He ratted on my brother. I was like, what? That shit threw me all the way off. But that's how I found out he read. Because I remember when he did, he was locked up. And that city. In that city, he caught a case in that city. I remembered all of that.
Starting point is 01:17:58 So when she said that, I mean, I had to believe it. Like, I was like, there's no way she would just say that and be lying. Like, I was like, damn. Like, literally the rest of the night didn't say two words to me. Yeah. I got, I respect it though. I totally respect that. Like her brother, I'm talking about her blood brother.
Starting point is 01:18:16 She was like, she's like, what? She was like, oh, he's a. rat. I was like, damn. I got, um, I got pressed at a birthday party by a few, a few gentlemen, few upstanding citizens. And the person that got ratted on stepped in and was like, yo, chill, he doesn't know. Because I was confused as fuck of what I, I was getting pressed for for hanging out with a rat. I was like, what rat I hang out with? I'm a, I'm a, I'm a civilian. I'm like, I'm both in my memory trying to like, like, when they're talking to me in my head, I'm like, who do, like, and then when I got more details and the person that was
Starting point is 01:18:51 ratted on even stepped in, I knew the situation, I knew of this situation, but everyone went to jail. And it was before I even met any of them, but it was when everyone went to jail, so I just assumed everyone went to jail and just came home. Oh, I know you're talking about. He's a rat. Oh, no, I know that now. He's a rat on a man. He's a rat. So your man stepped in and was like, chill, chill, chill, who, we're cool to this day. Um, actually just saw him out of baby shower. He stepped in He's a noop, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:17 He stepped in, he was like, oh, chill, everyone relaxed. He has no idea. He was in high school when this happened. He has no idea. All right. All right. I see how to happen.
Starting point is 01:19:24 What to fuck up? Everyone went to jail. I just, I never even, like, questioned it. I thought, everyone sat down, everyone came home,
Starting point is 01:19:31 and it is what it lived. Yeah. I remember that. That's crazy. I do remember that. I'm right. I almost got my ass whooped at that birthday party. He's right.
Starting point is 01:19:39 It was four on one. I was, and they caught me at the, he was trembling. No, I was just trying to, because they had got me, I was at the corner of the bar. And like, it was either the door that I could have even went to was blocked by two people.
Starting point is 01:19:52 So it was me just in the corner like, all right, at least if I just go like this. Yeah. I'll just wait it out. Yeah. I'll just wait it out while I get pounded on. That's my thing. So if that's, if shit like that has happening, hey, I, I, I, I, that's why you can meet random men at bars.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Well, neither one of them niggas was random. They was both your friends. And they didn't tell you. That person's not random. So, listen. random sometimes can be more trustworthy I feel like if you rat it you need to tell your home boys you rat it
Starting point is 01:20:19 because now I'm in danger 100% I'm in fucking danger and I don't even know what the fuck is going on Yeah That's rough No I hear that but All right listen Have you guys seen the movie
Starting point is 01:20:30 I love you man It sounds familiar It's with those comedy guys Can you pull it up? Paul Rudd He's getting married and he's Paul Rudd has so many more I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:43 I feel like every Paul Rudd movie is the same movie. They're all funny. Like, Ant Man and I Love You Man might be the same fucking movie. It's definitely not the same movie. You know, Am Man and I Love You Man. I love you, man. I love you, man, is just Ant Man with, like, dates. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Like, he's just going to date. So the premise of the movie is he gets engaged to the woman that's right there. And they're planning the wedding. And she has, like, I don't know, four or five bridesmaids or something. And he started, like, I guess he moved around as a kid and, like, never really had friends. So now as a grown adult, he needs to go out and find male friends so he can have a wedding party
Starting point is 01:21:16 for his wedding. And it goes through the first guy he meets tries to kiss him. The other one is fucking weirdos. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of is what we're talking about how weird it is as a grown man to go out and seek friends.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Yeah. Which there's nothing wrong with that. It's just weird. This is the result of what it is. A guy's probably going to try to kiss you or fuck you in Pige's case. You're going to meet some strange people. There's a reason why these people
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Starting point is 01:22:41 So y'all, it's that time of year again. Spotify and Rapp's Apple Replay. Time for us to see what the fuck y'all really been listening to. compared to what y'all say I've been listening to. So if it matches up. I mean, sometimes I think it's accurate than other times I don't think it is. And I also listen to a lot on my iTunes than I do with streaming, more or less. But I sent my 15 because in my top five, three of the artists are the same.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Yeah. Push a T, clips and malice being in my top five is a little funny. Well, that's because they all get credit for. Yeah, primary artists for every. everything. So that really should just be the clips in there. But I'll just read it in order. Push, Frank Ocean, clips, Freddie Gibbs, Malice, J. Electronica, Chance the rapper, Kendrick, Drake, MacMiller, JZ, Beyonce, Outcast, Nance to Launch. That's so you. Shocker.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I mean, that sounds about if, if I'm, as far as like replay outside of new projects coming out, yeah, that pretty much checks out for. You don't got an Aurora, Ian Serrado? listening to yourself like two years after the album to make the top 15 to me is kind of crazy I mean it's not you, you're not on the record
Starting point is 01:24:00 No, I know, but I've ran those songs like I get it There's like 30 versions of each song I mix them like I'm kind of like I kind of fucking hate those songs I know what you've been good Even though I was the year my album did come out I think I did have myself in my top five
Starting point is 01:24:15 but that's just because I was excited that it was out and was trying to do a streaming farm from my own house Yeah, there you go. But I did pretty well. This is Spotify. Actually, Ryan from Avond Garden just sent to me for my personal artist page, 1.7 million listeners, 266,000 hours, 6 million streams, 183 countries. For an album that came out in 2023.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Really good. That's not too bad. And I know you recouped. You get all that money. Oh, no, I recouped already. Like, I know you recouped. So all that's in the bottom. We're independent.
Starting point is 01:24:47 No, we on the Russ. We're on the Rust program. We actually get money from streaming. That's fire. Fuck your shit. All right, going in the mall's top artists. Who do we got? Drake.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Drake, party next door, Bryson Tiller, Nick Grant, Tame Impala, 21 Savage, Leon Thomas, Don Tolliver, Yeba, Waleigh, Majia Jordan, Chino Pacas, Doja Cat, Alex Isley, and Summer Walker. Okay. Is...
Starting point is 01:25:15 Yeah, who's Chino Pacas? These are Mexican artists. He's on the, he's probably, he probably made it on it because he's on the, uh, sexy songs for you album. Ah, okay. So I burnt that album all year, so. Yeah, I can tell that you did because Drake and party are right next door to each other. Right next.
Starting point is 01:25:33 It's a party next door. You didn't know it was a party next door. And I think, I think Yeva's at number nine just because she's on that album. Probably. Like, are you listening to other? I love, yeah. I listen to Yebba. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:44 I mean, that doesn't shock me if you listen to Yevah. Yeah. But I'm asking if she had nine because. Oh, for sure. Because Drake and party at one and two. For sure. Yeah. Because that, yeah, the same way I have pushed clips and malice in my shit.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Mm-hmm. That makes sense. Nick did make my artist top, but top song. He's at number two. Dope. Yeah, Nick Grant. Something to say. Something to say was my number two played song.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Fire. Oh. All right, Damaris, your artist. My artists are so obvious. Number one is Marit. Baby D. Baby D. Baby D. Baby D.
Starting point is 01:26:16 How much Mariah. She lifts her arms, man. How many Mariah scientists are you banging? No, let me tell you my minutes. This is how sad it is. Like, I'll tell you the fucking minutes difference between her and my number two artists, which is Drake, which we'll talk about in a second. Mariah had 1,700 minutes and Drake had 1,200. Like, Mariah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Yeah. You're going to turn that Mariah to scientists on. Every day, all day. I see. Every day all day. my number two artist is Drake Now I have This is not my first
Starting point is 01:26:50 Shut up piece This is not You have to do with you Now Now Yeah like yo what's going on No listen So what I'm confused about
Starting point is 01:26:58 Is Drake should be Either at seven next to party Or party should be up next to Drake Because Drake is up here Because of some sexy songs for you You see I'm saying So I'm just so confused Why they're right not
Starting point is 01:27:10 Not right next to each other Like how they are our malls I don't I don't Because you was banging Coco Jones more You was banging Coco Jones more than party So you're saying you only listen to sexy songs for you in 2020 That's why they should be on my top That's why he should be within my top 10
Starting point is 01:27:24 Is because of that some sexy songs for you album That's why I was just confused I do play other Drake but not enough for him to be number two Not this year So that's I was just so I was just confused I'm like I can understand to be an honor Cause that album but party should be right next to him
Starting point is 01:27:37 But whatever I didn't Maybe I played views one too many times I don't have no clue It's okay baby dude Everybody knows I'm a Drake fan. I've never not said I was a Drake fan. I know.
Starting point is 01:27:48 That's what I said it's okay. That's what I said it's okay. You ain't how to explain it. No, I'm not explaining myself. I was just confused about that because yours made sense. I didn't know why mine was like that. But whatever. Number three would be Coco Jones.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Number four, Jenna Jackson. Janet being four, is so funny. Number four, Janet Jackson. Number five, Keanu Today because of that cut ties album. Number six, Cardi B. Cardi made it. Cardi was always going to make it whether she released out or not. Seven, Siza, eight, party next door.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Nine, Summer Walker. Ten, Megan Estalian. Kailani. Beyonce, Jeanne Aiko, Lotto, and The Clips. The only hip hop being on here, well, the only male hip hop being on here outside of Drake is the clips. It's funny. It's funny. Why?
Starting point is 01:28:26 Do you feel like you listen to more? No, I listen to the, I was surprised that album wasn't higher. I don't know. Okay. Or they weren't higher. But yeah. I guess we get moved to albums. For me, number one, clips, let God sort them out.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Period. Number two, blonde Frank Ocean. Number three, Starline Chance the rapper. number four, Mac Miller, balloonerism, five, salon seat at the table, six, day, electronica, written testimony, seven, Kendrick Lamar, GNX, eight, Alfredo two, Freddie Gibbs, and Alchemist, nine, Beyonce, Cowboy Carter, number 10, the velvet rope, Janet Jackson. Good job. Number 11, I took it personal Nick Grant, number 12, Jay Z 444, 13, Freddie Gibbs sold souls separately,
Starting point is 01:29:08 14, some sexy songs for you, and 15, Godson. I did not know I listened to nods to Godson that much of the shit. That's funny as shit. Was there a specific song on there that you listen to a lot? I think, I know, I can't be what I want to. I'm trying. I'm teaching them all right about the pyramids. That's Rory's affirmations every morning.
Starting point is 01:29:31 That's hilarious. I guess this would be accurate. Like, I'm not. Yeah, I guess this is accurate. I don't know. These things, like, I don't remember what I listened to all year. and like the different. Yeah, I love looking at this at the end of the year.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Because I'm like, what? Because sometimes music can just be playing, spinning. I don't even hear that shit in the back. It's just playing. Honestly, never mind being Maul's fourth most listened to album. Nigel, where were you at? Yeah. Like, were you, you didn't even go on vacation this year.
Starting point is 01:30:02 You don't need to. You just got to play that and you on vacation. It's the vibe. Yeah. Even to the point, because you will get to your list, but you have mutt there. How much is not in my top 15 albums makes zero sense to me? because when I go into the car,
Starting point is 01:30:15 it's either the clips album or mutt if I don't know what I want to listen to. I'll just throw those two on. And mutts's not even in here or is Leon in my... Yeah, Leon's not even... Do you have Leon on your iTunes, though? Or like, you got the CD?
Starting point is 01:30:26 I bought mutt, so maybe that's why? That might be it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I guess so. All right. All right, well, for my top albums of 2025. Number one, some sexy songs for you, Party and Drake.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Number two, Silas and the vices, Bryson Tiller. Number three, her loss, Drake and 21 Savage. Number four, honestly, never mind, Drake. Number five, deadbeat, tame Impala. Number six, Fallad Dog, Scary Hour's Edition. Number seven, I took a personal Nick Grant.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Number eight, Mutt, Leon Thomas. Number nine, everything is a lot while lay. That's funny. His shit just came out. Yeah, that's up in the top ten. Great album. If that would have came out in February, it definitely would be on my list. Number 10, V. Is that how you said it?
Starting point is 01:31:07 Probably V or Viya? V. V? I don't know. V. Dojicat. Number 11, certified lover boy. Drake. Number 12. City and Naomi Sharon. Number 13, a written testimony.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Leaflets, J. Electronica. Number 14, God does like ugly J.I.D. And number 15, what did I miss? The single, I don't know. I didn't realize I played that song so much. Nick, you got five Drake albums and a single? Yeah, wait. How did a single make it to your...
Starting point is 01:31:33 Well, because if it's only just a single and there's nothing else, it's technically an album. Yeah. But people usually don't play that enough for it to qualify with the other albums. Got it. Yeah, that being number 15, was just like, I don't know how much.
Starting point is 01:31:44 That must have just played that shit when it first week came out and just kept playing it. Yeah, that's kind of wow. Well, for my top albums, obviously, heart sold separately by Mariah the Scientist, which just came out in August, so that's interesting. Why Not More by Coco Jones. Number two, number three, some sexy songs for you. Number four, Am I the Drama by Cardi B? Number five, SOS Deluxe, six cut ties by Keanu Ladee.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Seven, Master by Mariet a Scientist. Eight, let God sort them out. For the people that I was saying, I don't really want the clips doing a Grammy. Number nine, the velvet rope by Jenna Jackson. 10, Megan Act 2, 11, Janet by Janet by Janet by Janet by Janet by Janna, Ice, T by Lotto, which I still think is an underrated album. 13, finally
Starting point is 01:32:22 over it by Summer Walker and 14. You been banging that summer. That shit fucking. I'm just talking about. I agree. If I had more time, they'd probably be there. A seat at the table by- Y'all was banging those albums in one week. A seat at the table by, well, it's easy for summer because that album is kind of long. So, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:37 it gets a lot of minutes. A seat at the table by Solange, always, because I put that on every time I travel. And 15. her by her. Oh, it's good to see her still up there. Oh, yeah, that two, that two, that two part for forever. One of the greatest R&B albums of our time. Not a single fucking skip on that.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yeah, one of the greatest R&B albums of our time. I don't care who. We never did find out where him is, right? In Queens somewhere. Oh. Where is him? Was him? He never did find out.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Yo, him wore a mask in the green room. So I seriously do not, I still do not know who he is. No, in the green room when we was just kicking it for hours. He had a mask on the whole time. Did he sound like anybody that we might have, like, recognize? No. The only thing I know is he's from Queens, does it? Mm.
Starting point is 01:33:18 That's the only thing I know. I'm interested in you guys' top five songs. We don't have to go through our 15, but the top five songs. I mean, this is going to be Drake Party. And I'm also, I'm interested in that because, so for my top songs, I sent it to Josh. For my top songs, it's very obvious that I am an album girl because all of my top songs are from the same two albums outside of like two songs. My top 15 songs is the entire album. It's the entire some sexy songs for you.
Starting point is 01:33:50 It's the entire album. She plays like a playlist. It's like it sounds like you. It's like a Pandora station. What about you, Roy? Freddie Gibbs and Madlib practice. Nick Grant, something to say, Ace Trumpets, Star Side intro, chance the rapper,
Starting point is 01:34:06 and then back to the go, chance to rapper. Those should just tell you where I'm at in life if you go to the lyrical content of all of those. I'm looking at this like, Jesus, this is a father in need. Yeah, a father of need. It's a lot of clips here. $5 pony rides by Mac Miller.
Starting point is 01:34:20 That checks out. That's one of my favorite songs of the year. Schoolboy Q, blue slides, super underrated song, even though it came out last year, but I still play it all the time. Fruits of the Spirit, Electronica.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Grandma's stove, Freddie Gibbs. It's a lot of clips in Gibbs shit, really. Makes sense. And then chance. Mine is literally the entire a Coco Jones album and Mariah a scientist album like back to back. Like he goes Cocoa Mariah, Cocoa, like it literally
Starting point is 01:34:46 is just albums because I don't listen to songs individually. It surprises me that folded is not on there though. That surprised me. Rainier in Houston my number one song this year. I am not surprised at all. That doesn't shock me whatsoever. I would think it would be someone, somebody who loves me or a spider's superman. That's number two.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Yeah. That'll keep going. I know what number three is, no care. No care. I was about to say no care. I'm actually kind of shocked the SOS deluxe wasn't on mine because I played that a lot. That came out this year, right? Yeah, top of the year. That crybaby song?
Starting point is 01:35:19 That my turn song? Yeah, because not only the deluxe, but that chill baby record, I ran into the fucking ground. I'm shocked that's not there. Maybe did I buy the deluxe too? But I feel like I bought the clips album. But maybe I just playing on Apple music. I don't know how the shit works. Neither do I. It was close enough.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'm not going to. I'm not I can argue with that whole. All right. Before we go, I want to say thank you to everybody who has posted their pods, the top podcast of the year that have tagged us and sent it to us. Thank you for listening. Thank you for your continued support. Thank you for all the minutes you have given us.
Starting point is 01:35:56 For sure. You know what I'm saying? I think we may have been stream more to some of the top artists in the world this year, Rory. Average podcasters are streamed more than A-list artists. That's why we need our just doing these DSPs. Yeah. Also, Justin Bieber swag.
Starting point is 01:36:10 I'm very shocked. was not on my album one. I love that album. Yeah, I played that. I played that. Yeah, I feel like I played that a lot too. Yeah. But, I mean, it's always good to end the year
Starting point is 01:36:20 to kind of see the things you thought you listened to a lot. You thought you were spinning. It ain't on your top 15th. Yeah. Maybe in your top 20. Oh, the amount, did you guys go to your playlist? Mine is nothing but bad time playlist. Oh, I didn't even know if they had that.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Yeah. Top top ten playlists are all just battime fun and shit like that. That's what we got to do. We got to tap into that. We got to start ranking. jingles for the kids. Listen, I talk with a, we just Blaze about it. It's, it's tough, man.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Because we were talking like, how do we do the song cry version for kids? Like, where adults, my age that are now having kids can do like bath time shit with the samples of the stuff that we love. Like that's something we're trying to, but cracking into that is the toughest thing in the world. Everyone thinks they can write a baby shark. Did you, do you watch Gracie's Corner?
Starting point is 01:37:09 Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm not really paying attention, but yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I'm like, because they do that on Gracie's corner. All right. Well, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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