New Rory & MAL - Episode 435 | Plus Dome, Say Word

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

It’s the end of the week, and we got some good news to share. The Knicks won the NBA Cup, but Rory ain’t buying into the hype of the tournament. Mal loved the energy Drake brought to Ebro’s DMs. Young Thug and Mariah The Scientist are engaged, and Demaris is happy for her girl. 50 Cent continues to be the biggest troll of all-time. Mal doesn’t understand why A$AP Rocky would want to make music when he got Rihanna at home. Plus, we put each other on under the radar artists, and discuss when checking somebody goes wrong #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. The volume. We're starting. That's it. Ball says he doesn't go on dates. I don't. Now what? Look.

We're back sponsored by Boo's Mo. Unlimited talk text and dates, Rory. Unlimited talk text so you can text and go on a date. So every girl just be coming to the career? No. I just don't go on dates. Dates are when you're pursuing somebody romantically. And once you're on Netflix, you get really Netflix and chill.

What you tell them? It's different when, like, we laid up and I could, like, I'm on Netflix, you know what I said? You know what I ain't got to say nothing no more? Ew. The bag is a macum. You know how nasty it would be if you lay with a girl and put your cell phone? Yeah, but not, no, not on, just like scrolling to see something to watch. You want to watch yourself while you fucking?

Not a different level of thing. I don't know, I don't watch. I have not watched a single episode about it. I am nothing surprised. I have not surprised. I'm like Leonardo DiCaprio. Leonardo de Capri said he's never seen Titanic. Didn't he go to the premiere?

I keep telling you, me and Leo are more like the... Yeah, actually, now I think about it. Yeah. He don't go on dates either unless they're 21. Well, I'm not. That's part of the... You guys around the same age, too, yeah, no. Actually, more and more is making sense.

No, I think about it. I don't know what bad hearing on that one, but yeah. But yeah, I don't watch my work, you know what I'm here? I don't do that. Yeah. Well, while we're here, we will officially be on Netflix come January. We'll have more information about that after holidays. But I...

They said we only had... six months, Rory. They told us we only had six months ten times. 60 months in, bro. Come on, man. We're 60 months in, baby. Oh, Marlon, that type of time today. I'll see what type of episode is for me.

For sure. I'm just, I'm talking my shit. Yeah, we'll have some more information on exactly when that will be starting once, you know, we come back January 5th. All those that said we wouldn't be here, die slower. Jesus. You be the one that actually be writing from Drake's account. Yeah, I didn't.

I, I didn't. You GMD, right? Yeah, yeah. I said, Jake, let me sit in this one. Which will get you. I did see a lot of the business side of Twitter, podcast business side of Twitter, which I don't mind because I'm a nerd when it comes to

behind the scenes business stuff too. So I'm never mad when the listeners speculate with all that. But I've never heard more people fucking wrong and strong and loud about what our Netflix deal is. What they were saying? Iheart made the decision we didn't even know. Huh? They said that. We had no choice. I heart just put us there.

Oh, y'all be on that far to Twitter. We don't go that far down to them. We dealt directly with Netflix. We have a decision whether we want to do it or not. We negotiated. It's our deal. You know, shout out to volume. Shout out to their partnership with IHeart. Shout out to everyone. But no. That's our deal. You still own your IP, right?

Yes, absolutely. There's never been a time. It's never been the time I didn't. Well, no. I mean, when the Saudis buy Netflix, the own America's IP. You may have to kiss the wall. We may have to kiss the wall at that point. Oh, no, we're definitely doing the hands thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not to kiss the wall at that point.

For that Saudi bag, I kissed the wall. I'm letting you niggas know, I'm kissing the wall. All my niggas uptown, I'm kissing the wall for that bag. Pre-production in real time, that should be our teaser in January for our Netflix announcement. We should go on Netflix office and just do the hand thing. Yeah, just kiss the wall. Just got to kiss the wall. Sold our souls, man.

Yeah, that's it. Listen, it's in 4K at least, right? Absolutely. But we are excited to be a part of the Netflix family. Congratulations to everybody else. Yeah, shots everyone else that is making the leap as well. These wars are getting kind of crazy. Yeah, man.

Paramount, Warner Brothers, Disney, HBO. It's getting nuts. Listen, man. So, got to prepare yourselves. There's a war going on outside. Prayers for everyone involved. Warner Brothers ain't safe from. Listen, man.

I do want to wrap this episode up pretty quickly because I do want to go to the Knicks Championship Parade today. We finally got a ring, man. You know, you didn't get a ring. You got a medal. They put a medal around everybody's neck and they get a trophy. They get the cup. They get the trophy.

But shout out to the Knicks on winning the NBA Cup. It's just something to celebrate as a New York Knick fan. I'm not here to step on your celebration, man. Is this a new award? I've never heard of the cup before. This is three or four years in? Oh, okay. Three years in, just third year.

I think they're at the White House today. then they go to Disney World, I believe. In the middle of the season. Yo, this might have been, I actually went out to watch the game. And surrounded by a bunch of Knicks fans, we were so happy that they won. But once the confetti started to drop,

the mood and the bar changed a bit. Like, this feels nasty. And then when they handed Cat the trophy, I was like, please don't hold it up. Please don't hold it up. And he went like this. Yes. And I'm like, it's the middle of the season.

Yes. Yeah, but you got to applaud it, man. You got to say, you know. Co shit is so stupid. Of course. this would be the thing the next one. The dumbest fucking thing ever. I don't care ever it keeps things competitive.

I hate the shit. I get it. They got to revamp it. I get it. I don't hate it. I like it for a number of reasons. It brings some excitement to the middle of the season. You know, the teams are actually, they were playing.

It was a great game. It was a great game. Prayers to Wimby. He found that his grandmother passed right before the game. I read that. So prayers to Wimby and his family, that's got to be tough to receive that news. and try to go out and play.

But I like the cup. I was against it probably the first year. I didn't really understand it. But I do like the fact that it gives the players something to play for in the middle of the season. The competitive level seems to, you know, kind of get more intense in the NBA Cup tournament. You got a lot of guys that are on, you know, minimum guarantees. Two-way players that, you know, what's the kid from the Knicks? The guard?

Colic. He's bowling. If he didn't play as well as he did, I don't know if the Knicks win that game. Three is the change. And that money from the Cup, I mean, that's, you know, that's less his contract for the years. Yeah. I mean, you know, you get guys like that, they get an opportunity to play for something.

Yeah. And I think that's what, you know, makes it so competitive. It makes it cool. It gives a little spin. I will say back to the whole Saudi thing. We all seeing this thing where Emirates and all they're creeping into American sports and things like that. So, I mean, you know, they got the money. They're obviously paying the NBA for their partnership and things like that.

NFL. Raiders are for sale every year. Yeah, I mean, so, you know, I see what's going on as far as the business is concerned. But I'm not mad at it because I do feel like it did add something in the season, you know, before you get to the playoffs for teams to kind of get a little more competitive and play for a common goal. So congrats to the Knicks. Do you imagine Jeremy Lynn in the cup era? He kind of created it on the low.

Midseason Lin Sanity was like the Cup. Like, it changed New York for regular season games. Nah, that was just Knicks fans once again, just looking for anything to cheer for. A guy plays good for 12 games and y'all just going. We're going all the way this year. This is it. He's better than Earl and Pearl.

He's better than Earl of Pearl. I'm just like, well, 12 games? Like, what? I compare him about Isaiah Thomas. I'm like, all right, man. But Jeremy Lynn was a good player, though. I did enjoy watching him play. When he left the Knicks, he still had good.

He brought some excitement to the guard to the city. Yeah, so I respect that. I know he's tight now that there was no cut money at that point. He was literally living on someone's couch during that entire time. But at least the Knicks, it did, I had second-hand embarrassment with the celebration, but at least they have the integrity not to hang the banner up in the guard. Oh, God, I'm so glad they decided.

First team not to do it, by the way. I'm so glad they decided not to do that. Have some respect for yourselves. You wouldn't have went to the ceremony? Fuck, no. Are you kidding me? You can't raise an NBA Cup banner. Not in the garden.

You can't do that in a garden. I don't think, especially because it's the garden. We're going to put that next to, next to what's the name? next to Gregsies uh Stanley Cove. No, what's the Billy Joe? How many nights he sold out in the garden? He put that next to Billy Joe's banner. Like, come on, man.

Yeah. But I, I get it. But I even thought when, when Hove raised the banner for selling out the first show at the Barclays, I was like, what are we, now we just making up banners.

Listen, man, you got to put something up there. It's been a while for the next, man. They put up Hove, a three shows sold out. And then, then just like, it was just a photo of big.

Yeah. There was no words. So I agree. Deservantly so. I went to the first Barclays show ever with Jay-Z and he started the show with Juicy, which I thought was important. Absolutely. I'm not doing my song. The first song ever played here would be juicy, which I appreciate. It's just funny just to see big. Like, it's just big in the Raptors. Like, makes sense. I love it. Next to Jason Kid retired. Absolutely. Absolutely. Jason Kid is up there. Christopher Wallace. I agree with. Fuck that. shit how was uh how was everyone's week so far good man good week productive i did leg day last night i can't fill my legs they feel like i could take them off and put them in the in the closet back there but um i'm good man yeah i see you and p's were sharing vibrators i thought that was like a nice moment you can't even handle the top mode though no i can't sniff it sniff it demire said that

there's rose mode on there that you can't handle look at that see where when you start at that speed right there slow like that oh man they never leave that's when you get to don't look me when you say toothbrushing your bathroom, baby, baby. And it curves. Body washing your shower. Oh, God, thank you, Peeze. This is a, I'm sorry. Can you hear this in the mic, Peach? Oh, please stop. This is so great, Roy, you got to try this. I was, I was driving here yesterday. And I was, I was being, I was being a dick behind the wheel. I can't lie. I'm, I'm a great person deep down, but on the surface level, I can be an asshole. So I was clearly intentionally cutting someone off so I could make the light. And then the red light hit.

And it was, then we were just living in this existence, both of us at the intersection. And it was like one of those like con ed type trucks. And you would have lost. I was sitting there like trying to like avoid any eye contact because I knew I was wrong. Yeah. There was no changing this entire thing. Oh, you want to those. And I cut some white if you look straight ahead.

I don't usually do that. You put to roll a window down. Like what happened? So I can, you know, you can even hear someone through the window through your window. So I look and it was definitely, I mean, I'm. Just gonna be truthful. Stereotype of the con Edison, Spanish guy from the Bronx for sure.

Oh, come on. I mean, listen, they can hook your electricity up right away. So he's yelling and I'm like, all right, let me get my talking to because I'm an asshole, put the window down. He said, I was about to curse you the fuck out, Rory, but now I need to know who's going to be on the hot 97 morning show.

Are you serious? I was so scared. I told him. Only in New York City would that happen. I was going to curse you. I was going to curse you out, but now I want to know. That's such a New York City story. Con Edison driver was about to curse you out, but he recognized you.

Yeah. And then, all right, so that was yesterday on my way here. Then we left, went to go pick Amara up. I was starving. So I went to the deli across the street from Kea's crew. And you know, there's people outside that hold the door or whatever. And the kid was like 17. And he just asked for food.

He didn't ask for like money. I was like, yeah, come on. What you want? So we get to the counter. I order my sandwich. I'm like, yeah, whatever he wants. He starts breaking down a cheese steak sandwich. like we were at a Michelin Star restaurant of medium rare, don't cut it, how he wanted the cheese melted,

what type of bread. Then he got mozzarella sticks. And then he got an omelet with onions and peppers. At one point, I was like, my man. No, that's breakfast, lunch, and dinner right there. That wasn't the craziest point. While they were making it, I thought he was going back outside to open the door for people, to try to get money when walked outside. So I grabbed his food, paid for it, go to the door, nowhere to be found. Wait, you had his food and he just left? He just left.

I don't think he was all there. But now I'm just sitting here with a cheese steak, mozzarella sticks, and an omelet that I thought I bought for a homeless 17-year-old. Wait. He was like, why is it? Because I don't eat eggs. She's like, why is there an omelette here? I was like, you're not even going to believe me.

He was like, he changes mind. He went to say, he's like, no, I'm fucking. Yo, I tried to memorize his cheese steak order because that cheesecake hit. Like, he knew how to order it. property. Is he somebody that you see in front of that No, that's why I was, I was kind of confused because I go to that deli every single day. I kind of know the rotation of

unhoused people. How do you know you really saw somebody? Is this a real person? Oh shit. Never thought it that way. It might have been a time traveler. What if I go there today and he's like, you know, where my food up? He might be there. He might have pulled up. If he's there

and he asked for food, do I do it again? No. Hell no. I feel like, I mean, I kind of felt like he overordered anyways. Yeah, no. And what weird meat, like I said, he misses opportunities. Such an interesting combination of, of foods in one, one thing.

But yeah, that's, that's how yesterday went for me. Well, you had a good, you had a productive week. I was man with the people. I was with the New Yorkers. Listen, you got to just be a man of the people. How are you feeling, baby, Dee? I feel good. My brain is off.

I'm ready for this year to be over. Your brain is off? It's off. I forgot I had to work today. Why's your brain off? I don't know. It's just like the end of the year. It's just kind of like, like I'm just.

You got to run through the finish line. no baby. No, no. You pull up and you know how like when you start running and they, they start looking back. Like that's, can't do that. See? See, that's how a nigga run right past you. Now you got bronze.

You're the only way to go. Now you bronze. Damaris is the 8 p.m. Marathon Enders. They just get the, the sun's down. People trying to clean up and leave. You're ready to.

Y'all lucky I made it through this bitch. Like I'm tired. Like the first place person's already done you in Staten Island. Like what's going on? I don't know. I'm just drained. Is it like a mentally drained thing? I'm drained.

I'm just tired. This wet between this weather, just the end of the year. I'm talking to you niggas. I just, I want to go to sleep. I don't know. Okay.

Tired. I don't know. I just, I don't know. You're talking like Kaishanae didn't recognize you. Kaisanaat has no, not one-fifth of a fuck who I am.

Did Walee really say that? Yes, I didn't make that. But like, was he joking when he said it? No. He said he went to therapy because. He didn't say he went to therapy. He told Shannon Sharp that he was, he was in bed for,

like five days because Kaasenot didn't recognize it. I think Wally was true. Wait, what? I think he was showing a little bit there. Okay, well, let's pull up the clip and let's see if you. Yeah, Wally,

there ain't no way Wiley was serious about that. Wale, he's just talking shit, man. Being in bed for five days because Kassanat doesn't recognize you. That's like... You don't even let someone lay in bed for a day after a 10-year breakup.

Let alone the Kajit. Five days because Kassanat didn't recognize you? No, that's kind of well. I mean... He looks amazing, an important figure. Yeah, but come on. I don't believe. I think Waleigh just talking shit.

And then you go to the awards to just support the culture that you've been a part of for 13 years. And then somebody who asked you to play a video, like, ask you, yeah, yeah, let's play one day. Like, because you saw them last year. And then you go online and everybody's like, yo, because that's not, he didn't know who you was. That was funny. And you're in a room full of your peers. Right. And I was like, wait.

let me go hollering real quick. And through my vantage point, I'm just like, yo, that made me look crazy, bro. But I think the way that people saw it's like, yo, gosh it on, like,

you, oh, I'm 20 year old. Like, you feel on me? Like, that's what they're acting like I did. And I'm like,

yo, I'm just saying you made me look crazy. Like, I don't, I'm, I feel like uncomfortable in this room. But like, I'm like,

at that moment, And I'm like, damn, everybody making me to bid on, on the internet just because I was like, you know, like, just because he didn't, no, it was just, I was just confused. And then when they said, I pressed him, I was like, oh, oh, so that means I got to leave. Like, I got to go. I got to go to my hotel for like a couple days. Like, it was just, it was like not that. I was upset for like five days in a row.

Yeah, man, I don't think he was really, well, it wasn't really. I mean, we know Wally's admittedly takes things personal, which is fine. artist but what you think that says i was in bed for five days depressed and and no i'm not saying that but i'm while lay is telling y'all how he feel they do this all the time why somebody will say exactly how they feel and what they did roy and ma'll be like now i don't think he meant it like that he just said exactly what he said because i'm telling how people podcast and interview and he's sitting there with shan and he just embellishing he was making a real point of like why he felt upset about the entire thing but but we can speak to if he actually did that

Wale is fucking crazy. No, I don't say that. You get, what you mean? If you're viewing it less about Kai and more about, I've given 13 years of my life to this shit, I'm around my peers, and now the internet is making me out to be this type of way, and it makes me feel bad. It's not, Kai didn't recognize me, so I'm in bed. It's, oh, I'm getting played out in the industry I've given so much to.

And now the internet thinks I'm nuts. Or I'm the angry guy, or I'm weird. Like, yeah, that's that. It's not, yo. Kai didn't recognize me. But why does Walee do that, though? Like, why does Wale seem to take things so personal? We've had this conversation for 10 years, and, I mean, he's told you who he is.

Because I wouldn't give it. I could care less if Kasa not knew who I was, if I said what's up to him. Like, it wouldn't affect me nothing. Like, I don't, like, that's like an ego thing. The concourse in you wouldn't just, you want to feel some type of way, like, Bronx sticks together? It's dudes that I grew up with. I see them now, they don't even recognize. You think I feel away?

But I just don't know. I just don't put much into that. Somebody don't recognize me. Again, I don't think it was they recognized specifically with Kai. I think it's what it represent and how the internet took it. What does it represent? Of putting in, shit, a lot of what Wiley has expressed before of the talent level he has, the work he's put in, the records that he has.

So that means everybody supposed to be recognized? Still doesn't get the same recognition that say someone he deems a little less talent and has put in less work than him gets all this recognition. Like, that's what he's talked about for years, which I've always agreed with him on that. And I think he has every right to feel some type of way about it. I think it's just to add in on that. I'm on the other side of that. Okay.

I just think that's just, that's the ego thing. You start saying somebody should recognize me like, that's an ego thing. I don't, but I don't think that's what he was saying either. That's what you just said, that he put in all his work and that if somebody doesn't recognize him, then he. That he is made out on the internet. to look like a crazy person. I don't think Wiley's crazy. I think he's crazy for feeling the way of Kai is not recognizing him.

I don't think Waleigh is crazy. I think him feeling a way that Kaisna did not recognize him. The internet tried to, when he went up and approached Kai afterwards, which I think was a bad move in how it looked, just how it looked. The internet, so what he's saying?

Made it look like he was the old guy trying to kick the young guy down, like trying to press him. Like, yo, you didn't know what the fuck. And while it wasn't that, that's what they made Wale look like. Yeah. yeah, when the internet's beating you down about some shit,

it could probably cause you to just want to stay in your hotel and turn your phone off. I can see that. Y'all give too much power to people on the internet. No, I mean, I couldn't agree more. Yeah, I get way too much power. But you can't get mad at Wiley, who's openly admitted this is how I feel in these types of things affect me.

He's honest about it. It's not like he's the one that's sitting here saying, I don't give a fuck, but meanwhile, I having mental breakdowns. Yeah. Those people are the worst. Wiley is saying I'm sensitive. This shit bothers me.

I can appreciate that. I respect it. So, you know. Shout out the Waleigh. Put out shit. one of my favorite rap problems at the year. Absolutely.

But yeah, man, Kai, please say hello to Wiley next time you see him so he doesn't spend another five days in the hotel. I don't know if Drake DME dies slowly. I mean, I wouldn't get depressed, but I'd, you know, I'd lock my doors. You would lock your doors.

You would go down and say it and check to see if the door was locked. Why he wasn't locked already? See if Iceman was outside? What's up with your man? I like it. I like it. Die slower, pussy. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, all you niggas that was talking shit all year, clapping for that bullshit rhetoric that they was pushing about me. Yeah, die slow. I want to see all you niggas fair. But what does that mean? It means die slow. I hope your next show don't work out either. Drake is not hoping that ebro is putting to the ground next week.

How you know that? He's not. He's not that type of person. But he's saying die slow like, yo, yeah, fuck your career. Career-wise, but we got some shit for you. one could take as a threat and maybe pursue a lawsuit. Hey, Rosenberg, I didn't like that. I didn't like Rosenberg pumping out.

I would take that as a threat. You should sue. Like, come on, man, with the bullshit. No, he was. I didn't like that. I didn't like that. And I fuck with Pete, but I didn't like that. He was making a joke based off the lawsuit that Drake.

No, I get it. Like he's saying, he breaches. I mean, suing's okay. Yeah, but this, it was, it was coming out of that face. Can you sue someone for saying we got some shit for you? Well, the way. You could probably get like a restraining order. Like, yo, it's a threat.

Oh, someone good if you wanted Yeah, if you wanted So I didn't like keep doing that I was like, come on man, you know that's not Drake is not going to do anything to eat, bro. No, of course not, but that's why you shouldn't say we got some shit for you unless you even do it.

Yeah, but we got some shit for you can be a bunch of things. It could be I got you on a song, got some bars about you on the song, I got some info that I heard about you from some women that you may have dated before. It could be a lot of things. It don't mean that I'm going to show up to your house

with the owls and fucking and bring bodily harm to you. Like, it don't mean that. Bring the potters. Yeah, it don't mean that. It just means, we got some shit for you. Do you think this is a bit hypocritical

of what you just said about Waleigh? Why should Drake give so much power to these people on the internet discussing him? No, he's just, he's not. To the point that you say, die slower, pussy, we got something for you in the DMs and you're worth a billion dollars

in the second biggest artist in the world. To me, that's, he's letting people on the internet. internet get to him. If he didn't care, he wouldn't. No, no, this is somebody that was the program director of a radio station in New York City that was pushing a message. Oh, he's been saying fuck out 97 for over a decade.

Yeah, but they've been pushing a rhetoric about him based on a song that came out last year. Ebro has been very vocal about that. He's been said a lot of things about Drake over the past year. I mean, we can go down a clip of things that Ebro said about Drake as well. Listen, I don't watch every single Ebro show to know every bad thing he said. about Drake, but I also think the level that Drake is at can go to your point of what you made with Waleigh. It's people on the internet, there's no power. Even when Flex was trying to beef with Drake and Drake was on stage of the garden saying, fuck Hot 97, they were playing Drake,

you know, 50 times a day. It didn't affect his, his, it's not like he got blackballed from Hot 97. It's not like they stopped playing his music, which affects your livelihood. You know what you do? They were beefing with Drake. Flex was beefing with Drake and had to play 10 Drake songs in a set. Yeah, but here's the thing, Roy, because you're asking for Drake to, you know, be the bigger person. You're asking him to. I'm just making a point off the while.

No, he, he won't, he, sometimes. I don't care. I actually laughed at this. Yeah, sometimes he wants to play petty. Sometimes he's going to be petty. Sometimes. Yeah. Career.

Yeah, exactly. So sometimes I'm going to say die slower, pussy. Sometimes I'm going to say that. I'm going to be in the studio. I'm going to hear that you just lost your show, got canceled. And I'm going to be like, oh, shit. He was talking so much shit about me this year. Let me send them a nice little message.

I just, and I'm not saying this about Drake. I think it's the overall internet now. When drill music and streamers all like connected and they started using drill slang and metaphors in real life is when things got weird. Like smoking on packs and like all this like, you know it's actually like really about like murder, right? Mm-hmm.

Like, yeah, they're saying that on sort of, those guys are actually doing it. That's when things, when anyone felt like they could say anything on the internet. Like, die slower pussy. I just, I think that's a wild thing to DM somebody.

It is. I just do. And I think everyone is speaking like they're all drill rappers, no matter who you are. People feel like, that's just acceptable vernacular now to say certain threats that have a meaning of actual violence. We smoke around that pact tonight.

Like, wait, you know that derives for someone that was murdered, right? I just think it's people talk crazy in DMs on streams, on Twitter. Like, it's nuts the things that people are saying to each other with ease. And they're not even, I'm not saying this about Drake. And they're not even like that. Like, listen, do we joke around this and that? I don't use certain words because I'm not prepared to, I'm 35 years old.

I don't want any violence. Right. Even when I was cut homey off in traffic, I just was staring straight. I want to fight. I'm past that point in my life. So I don't speak that way. Yeah. I'm not going to threaten someone that way unless we're going that way.

so I don't know I just think everyone on the end and out easily just says shit that has power behind it if you think about what you're saying but do you understand why Drake said that I don't I mean did Ebro call him a pedophile I don't know if someone called me a pedophile yeah probably in my head I probably I probably hope that their career he called him what he called him a sickness oh yeah I did see the sickness part and I did see Ebro try to clean clean that up saying that his fans were the sickness or whatever not Drake has every right to feel that way I just think everyone is just talking too crazy in the last two or three years. Me too. I agree. I get a word. I agree. Me too.

Saying a lot of crazy things. I feel like I'm not mad at drink for being petty because whenever some shit happened to somebody that did me wrong, I'm always the first to say, oh, God don't play about me. So I know how it is to feel that way,

but words do mean things. So you can say he didn't mean it like that. He just meant his career shit. But die slower pussy is like it. Words have meaning and words have power. So they do. He sat back and listened to a lot of words about him over the last two days. That's fine.

It is. That's what I'm saying. Die slow is fine. I've never been in that situation. So I'm really honestly not here to judge how he reacted to it. Because I've never been in a position, Drake has been in and been called a pedophile. Yeah. Maybe I would react worse.

I don't know. But it's just a wild thing to say to somebody. Yeah, it is. You right? I'm not saying it's not. I like it, though. That's what I'm saying. I like it.

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I did not. Don't do that. Her marriage proposal. Don't create. Don't create that narrative. That's not true. I'm very happy as long as Mariah is happy. Of course you are.

And she's not. Like we got to stop saying I'm happy if so-and-so is happy. No, you're not. You're not happy if Mariah Assange's happy. I'm happy she's happy. No, you're not. I want my favorite artist to be happy. I don't want them to be depressed.

Why would I want? I'm a good human being. I love Mariah. I want her career to continue to successfully flourish. So if she's happy, I'm happy. All I said was the album, the next album going to be great. That's all I said. Okay, but why do you back to the next album?

What were you? The next album's going to be great. She's going to be in love. I love and love music. That's what you're thinking. Yeah, that's what I'm. Do you think something different? Yes.

Oh, okay. Say it. I took that as you were expecting. No, no, no. Don't say what you took what I was saying as. What do you think? I don't think about Mariah the scientists and young thug. Oh.

Ever. I didn't even know they were dating until like he got out of jail. Until it was the daddy of my, your baby call when he was in jail. I had no idea they even knew each other. Yeah, I ever had. somebody say, Daddy, call you and say that?

Call me and say what? Daddy am I your baby? No. I'm not your daddy and you're not my baby. Oh, boo. No, yeah, that's what I. Fucking boring. Yeah.

So boring. Where's that? Daddy. I'm not your daddy. Daddy am I? Get the fuck off my phone with this shit. Am I your baby? Call your father.

Yeah. No, you're not my baby. It's boring over there. That's the difference between boring and not boring. It's just the word daddy. Poppy for some reason is okay. Sniggin. I don't know why.

Snigga thinks he gets me. Pobby. Yo, he think he poured a reason. I'm not saying, I'm saying it. You're lad. You're not poppy. I'm definitely wrong. I'm definitely wrong.

Roy, are you my lad? I think I might be, I think I might. I think father might be. Am I? Yo. I think father is what it would be for me. Are you your father? Yo, lad is funny.

Rory, are you my father? What's the opposite of matriarch? I'd be. that. Roy, are you my lad? The father, son, the holy ghost. That's my land for sure. All right, well, congrats to Mariah

the scientists and young thug. We love to see people in love and, you know, professing their love to each other. So, respect there. I mean, I don't think this because I know nothing about it. I think Mariah Sciences is great. I did see someone tweet this morning, God, please send me a bitch as fire and dumb

as Mariah the scientist. I was like, that is mean. People are so mean on the internet. Are they mean or are they honest? I feel like we all need to learn to shut the fuck up a little bit more when it come to people relationship. Like calling somebody dumb. I just, I feel like celebrities see this stuff.

Like, y'all don't think celebrities see this stuff. Of course they do. If you want to critique their art, critique their art, but like, I don't know. Maybe I've learned. No, no, but here's the thing, baby, Dee. Here's the thing. Everything that they've gone through, the audio tapes and everything with those in jail, the other women he was talking to and all of that was made public.

Yeah. All of that was made public. So now when you have that, that's our business now. We open my phone. I see what they've been doing in jail. This, then the third. Okay. It's cute when everybody is, oh, if daddy, my, your baby, when that's the meme and everybody,

it's cute then. I thought it was fucked up then. It's cute then. But then when it's like, yo, wasn't he just had a whole bunch of other girls on his visit telling him they loved it? He loved them. And this than the third. and he come home

and now he get on stage on one knee and he's like, yeah, like, nah, but the word, this is a thing playing in your face. But that's,

but it's fine. He had to say to go like that. I'm in jail. I can't help when people come to visit me. I'm in jail. But you can help

what you say to people when they come visit you. Yeah, but you're not supposed to leak that. All right. That's the thing. So that's why when it's like, when it's like,

well, that's our business now. No, it's not. And they didn't, they didn't put you in their business. Their phone calls got leaked. their privacy got fucking invaded.

And now you got to go on the internet and watch people who don't know you have opinions on your motherfucking relationship. If you want to say something positive to people. Have you ever visited somebody in jail? Have I ever been? Or have you ever had a phone call from somebody in jail? Romantically, no.

Okay. Have you had a phone call from anybody? Yes. The first thing they tell you is this call is what? Being recorded, yes. I hate that. So anything after that, I don't care if it leaked, whatever.

You know this is being recorded. You know that this has a chance. somebody may see this. Somebody may hear this. Yes, but what I'm... So let's not say anything on this call. Which is fine. But what I'm not talking about for thug.

I'm talking about Mariah. Mariah didn't do anything wrong. No, I'm not saying she did. No, but what I'm saying is, I just feel like the internet has just gotten so comfortable commenting on, like calling somebody... I don't know, we're used to it, so it doesn't seem like a big deal to us.

But the celebrities see this stuff. And we'd be saying the mean and shit about... I've done it before, too. The mean and shit about... these people, they are human fucking beings. And just because they're public figures, they got to read this shit? Gig is the gig. Yeah.

That shit is whack. But I hope that they are happy. I hope that, you know what I'm saying? Their union is full of love and happiness and all of that. I don't want them to be, you know, have a terrible marriage. But I am saying to things that people may say on the internet that may, you may think it's hurtful or things like that, they're just going off for the information. And they're following this love story.

So if somebody's following the love story. story, you can't be mad when they start talking about certain chapters. Like, yo, like this nigga, girl, he was playing in your face the whole time and you stood out of, people are following the love stories, what I'm saying. Yeah, that's fine. Hopefully it ends up in happiness and love and beautiful family. You know, we want happiness for them, but you can't get mad at people on the internet. But just, you know, referring back to chapter 22.

That's all. It's like people remember and people like Moro. Mariah the scientist. And people feel like, yo, girl, this nigga playing in your face. You deserve better. I see things girls say all the time online about Mariah the scientists.

Like, yo, you deserve better than that. You letting this man play with you. Da-da-da-da-da. So now when she pop out and gazed to the guy that her fans, some of her fans feel like it's not good for or played in her face, of course they're going to say things like that. I saw a tweet that say,

y'all real funny because y'all call everybody but Beyonce's stupid for not leaving. Yeah, but she gave us lemonade and told us how she worked through it. And Jay cried on the song 444. So it's like, and he made, come on, he made the blueprint. You ever heard lifestyle? I was just about to say, there's plenty of women going through

what Mariah's scientists goes through and their man didn't make barter six. So, I don't know. Yeah, this women are going to go through worse. I hear what you're saying, but don't act like in your local neighborhood. They don't talk the same shit about people. With a lesser nigga, man. With a lesser nigg. You're making sense, but this is what human beings fucking do.

With a lesser nigger. Like, he did what? And girl, if you don't leave that dick of that dick, that dick ain't even got no, I see this one meme, this dude said. I'm tired of women lying to me, man. To my boo, I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

I love you. I ain't even got no car. You're lying. What? You know, girl, y'all don't love no nigga without no car. Cut it out. Oh, me personally, no. But I don't know.

It ain't just you personally. It's women. I said what I said. Wait, wait. Where are we, though? What you mean? Where are we? New York City, a lot of people don't have cars.

You don't have a car. These bids. So you don't feel love? They don't love you? Let me give you breaking news, baby. I know they don't love me. They don't love me. You think, I just told that I don't go on dates.

I'm not stupid. They don't love me. Listen, I'm very self-aware. A girl, like, I love you. I'm like, you'll cut it. What you want? What you need?

Christmas coming, first of the month. Why you don't think that's your worthy of love? No, no, no. I didn't say that. I am. That's not what. See how fast. I'm worthy of love.

I know that. He sticks out here don't love me when they say he love me. Why would you not believe that they love you? That's like when niggas be like, I don't want to grow that, fuck me on the first day. I feel like she do that to everybody. Why you don't believe you special? Why you don't believe that something was different about you? Because then information lands in your lap and you find out homie smashed him one day too.

From a jail call, you find out. Yeah. Oh, from a jail call. Oh, from a jail call that week. Yeah, you'll find out like, like, oh, she'll just say that the. Everybody like, oh, I knew she didn't love me. Yeah. You ain't the same with Duncan Town?

You just say that shit to get to me. You don't love me. Cut the shit. Maul, you can be loved without a car. I think, like, maybe in more of a remote city like Atlanta, a car would help to be loved. But I think in the five boroughs, you can get it done and be loved. I mean, hey, we'll see. Like, when you hit Central Jersey, yeah, you should probably have a car.

What? I'm getting my car, though. So now I'm going to see if somebody, like, really done it. Can I be a passenger princess? Hell, no. That's for the hose. if you in the passenger seat you gotta be doing all the way at the west side highway or something like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what I'm saying Rory that's what we do in the west side

at night you know exit damn already we home yeah you heard the song that wasn't just raps that was real life they was showing you real life why do we let Cameron and Juel's get that that line off well I hit what I've never asked my man what else what else plus no I hit Has my man's came out to be like, yo, I hit 100% has happened multiple times. I never went, yo, but what else? Plus don't say word? Say word? She let you fuck.

And she gave you head. Yo. What else? Fuck don't say word. It's hilarious. Plus don't say word. And we're going to get it on at night. Yeah, man.

She did me and gave me that extra value mill. Mop me up real. And mind you, I mean, there's been times where I've just hit and not gotten done. But it would like, it doesn't shock me that I also get head if I'm fucking sorry. That's not that crazy of a concept. Yeah, no, I mean, you can get head

and not hit and it's like, all right, cool. That's not true, though, because you've gotten head before and you didn't think she was about to get you head. Yeah, oh no, it was a great surprise. That's what I'm saying. So that's why Cam was like, say word, like. But if she didn't get me no head. If she letting you fuck, like, I don't know.

It was probably a girl that Cam dated to and she didn't give Cam head. So he was like, say word. Like, I ain't get that. That happens. That's a real thing. I'm also, if I know my man's fuck someone, definitely, one, not fucking them. Two, not calling them. And be like, yo, I hit.

That's fucking sick. Oh, man. Nobody. I got to call Google or somebody. Like, no one said anything in the studio. Nah, man. Like, I don't think this is the exchange. Y'all.

I don't think the shit y'all down. Oh, boy, let's lean more in that direction. Yeah. Let's go with the old boy. You're still talking about it, 15 years later. Oh, man. We can't believe that that really happened. Like, now that you older, you look back to, like, certain bars, you're like,

we used to, like, say this out loud. Like, we couldn't wait to get to that part of the song. And I never understood what Jewel said, uh, I'm 18, little crazy life. Plus, I tell you what the 80s like. That was an old, too. You was told how old was a girl you was talking to? I was 12 years old when that song came out. And I was born in 1990.

I can't tell you what the 80s like. So who was he talking to? But he was, she was older. him he said that. That's why he said that. Yeah. But if she was older, she would know what the 80s was like. But I know that's why she was like, I can tell you what the 80s like. Gotcha. It's okay. You're reading

comprehension. Listen to comprehension. Yeah. I can be all three plus I can lay the pipe. I get it. No, it was good line. But why are you breaking down like that though? Like, well, see, when you break the bars down like that, you make it sound crazy, man. It was just a great ball. It was a funny follow-up because the scheme of I can be all three

plus I can lay the plate. He was giving game at that point and then ended it like, but by away. I can also tell you what 1986 was like like that nigga. I don't know how to feel like. He's lying. He's doing whatever. Just lying. You're just lying. Fuck you. Anything to get this dome

tonight. I'm going to tell her whatever she wanted to hear. I'm sorry, baby. I'm a victim. I've done it to. I'm sorry. How y'all felt when y'all found out that love of your life was a whore? I don't never think I don't think that's ever happened. There's definitely a girl I was pursuing that I found out. Yeah, you thought she was

a love of your life and you found out she was a whore. Because that shit hurt with men too When you like damn That's husband material You find out he's a whore That shit makes his stomach not up Y'all don't care about that though do you? Who don't?

Yeah, y'all don't care about that I care about that. I care about, I'm not saying If you have a whore pass, you have a whore pass, whatever I mean like if you're an active whore Like you, that's you dedicated to this whore in life Like you just be fucking Like you that, you easy

Mm-hmm, you going. I define easy. Y'all don't want no Yeah, but y'all be But you say that baby, then you don't want no nigger that other women don't like and don't want You don't find attractive

You don't want that That's not the problem Because Maul, I think that you a hoe But I don't think you're an active whore You can get pussy And plenty of women want you You don't take every piece of pussy that's thrown in. Literally just told you yesterday he was a whore

See, but Maul's not that bad Maul is not that bad I don't get as much pussy as y'all That was yesterday Wait, what? No, I don't mean it like I don't mean it like. Trying to say he's not cool?

No, I'm not saying it like that. Ma, you fuck just random bitches all day every day. You don't. You're not like that. Absolutely not. You're not easy. Like, you know how to turn down vagina. Some of these niggas gone.

So is it more because of time, constraint, and location? Or is it a moral thing? I thought if Maugh lived in Brooklyn here, be going crazy. No, you know, if Maul lived like really in the dry state, football numbers. No, I'm not that. Like, I don't really, Maul, when you were living close to the city, you fucked 50 bitches in one summer. I was 24 years old. What that mean?

I was young and done. You just did leg day. You were in shape. No, I was young and dumb, bro. Like when you 20-some years, oh, yeah, that's what you do. Where as a 40-some year, I'm not, I'm not even having conversations with certain women no more. Like, once I know there at certain time, I'm like, yo, I have, we, it's nothing that we're going to have in common. Oh, yeah, my hearing.

But you learn that over time. Like, you learn the type of women that you're attracted to the type of women that you should have certain conversations with. Definitely, you know, you learn what type of women you should be laying down with, like, and having sex with. Like, just because you look good, don't mean you need to lay down. in bed with her and roll around and play tummy sticks with her. Unless it was the summer of love. And that's a different summer. That's a whole different summer.

What summer was that? 2006. Yeah, oh six was definitely the summer of love. 2005, 2006, something like that. Yeah, I was out there. It was like crab in the barrel. And I had two shotguns. Who wants crab cakes?

I was 15 and whoever would have me. when you 15 when you 15 who you know whoever will have me but that's what it is when you young though hell you don't know you're not ashamed of that it was a fucking child as a 20 something old like what's going through puberty young guy and you don't know when you're going to have sex

you cannot control when you have sex so if you just happen to get a girl to crib and she's ready to have you don't care what she looked like you know she might not be the most attractive at 24 yeah you're knocking them down You're knocking them down, but you have a little bit of discernment at 20 years.

No, you have a little bit of discernment. You're right. A little bit of discernment. A little bit. Now I got a lot of bit. Like, I stopped mid-conversation. I'm like, I will never talk to this girl again. You just, is certain things they talk about, they say.

I'm just like, oh, yeah, that's what you are. I can't wait for a year when I could tell the world why you ghosted this one girl. I'm going to give it a year, though. Because I don't want her to, I don't want her to know why you did it. Who ghosted? What I did? Funk. funky

oh that's always that they know that's my part of my thing I say that out loud yeah if you smell funny I'm not fucking with you see when I was 22 well just go like this I might have had to

I might have had to hump through a little bit of stink air oh for sure but at 44 no I go in the bed and watch first 48 and go to sleep I don't need that pussy like I'm cool

yeah I'm cool yeah you can't watch first 48 and it stink in the room yeah the room thing. I got a light sage hoping you leave. Like, he said it smelled like the actual crime scene. Yeah, it smelled like the corners on the way. Like, what, what settings is your TV at?

You get a smells in here, too. It's bad. It's bad. That's how I knew our whole podcast was watched. I think we were in, we had a live show in Boston and in the group chat. Everybody just happened to be alone watching First 48. Yeah. All in different rooms. Yaw some losers. So I think as someone just put it on TV.

and then everyone, it just started ringing, vibrating. Everyone was just sending photos of their hotel. Watching the same shit. I'm just watching first 48 by yourself. It's better than having some rando in your room that you never going to see again, never going to talk to again. I got to sit here and pretend, act like,

we know we have things in common. Like, oh, you watch this to us, oh, it's funny. Just give me some head. You watch this too? Yeah, like, how long are we going to do that? Like, four commercials. All right, come on.

We don't watch four commercials. I need some top. Yeah. Like, we can't do this. You've got to go soon. You're not spending the night. And because, like, I don't, I don't even do this type of shit, but there's something that's just different about you.

I feel like we've known each other forever. Check your man out. You do that? I've never done that, come on. He'd do that. He'd do that. I couldn't get that shit out with a straight face to a woman. I would start laughing in the middle of the sentence.

I feel like we've known each other our whole lives. I've said that before, but I've been, I've said it. You said that to a guy? No way. You know what? That's funny, Josh. No way. You know what, Demaris?

Maybe I am easy. That would work on me. You said that to God? It really felt like we knew it. Word? Man, fuck y'all. You're mooning Virgo too. Do you,

Demas, you got to walk us through this. How did you, how did the conversation do this? It was a serious conversation, but we really did feel like that. Like, we really felt like we known each other. Like, we didn't say a first date, but we said like we,

yo, like I felt like I've known you my entire life. Oh, but not the first, not the first. No, not the first date. That's what we're talking about. We told about. It was like the second. And the second date was the day after the first. So 24 hours later, you told that man, you felt like you've known.

That's the same thing. Yeah. Well, even if you have phone conversations with them beforehand, like. Not the second day. Like, after the first week, two weeks, you kind of feel like, yo, like, I ain't a lot. Chemistry is like, it's like we hung out before. I feel like we know each other for me. I can understand that.

The second day, a girl said that the second day. I'm like, yo, I just start asking real questions. What's up? You need somewhere to stay. Like, what's up? Because you landed on heavy. I've known you 24 hours. You're telling me we feel like, I feel like I know you forever?

We had known each, we had known each other for two weeks. It was just the second date. So y'all were talking for two weeks? Yes. That's different. You got enough conversation. I didn't meet, I didn't meet, no one for 24 hours. All right, if you were talking for two weeks, but then at the second, the second time y'all hung out, oh, no, I'm not mad at that.

That's shit you get off at like a resort. Doing that in domestic waters is crazy. At a resort. Like, you do that shit on a cruise. Like, you do that shit on vacation. You do your best line. Doing that shit in the city you live in is nuts. You do your best line on vacation.

Vacation lies? As soon as I get back to JFK, I'm like, man, I don't even know what I just told this girl, but that was all lies. That's why do you do that? It's warm, water, sand. You got this fucking dong bikini on. I'm in full colliders in. What you want me to say?

I'm just giving you my best. We both understand this is not leaving DR. Yeah. But what she don't understand that? She'll understand once I get my bag off this fucking thing. This carousel again. This Uber. Once I hit the pre-check line.

Oh, you ain't got clear? Yo. Texts me when you get home. As soon as I walked to my gate and she got to go to her gate. She'll live in New York. Where you're at? Oh, you're going back to the West Coast. All right.

See you later. It's over. I'm lying to staying right in that sand. With the Rock the Bell shit, that was my first cruise. I didn't know that that was like a thing on cruises until after we docked. Like, that's a real thing that people do. Yeah, you fall in love on the cruise. yeah that's why yeah you're your cabin

but it but it was all like people it was like a marriage cruise more or less like with that line up old people that were having fun it wasn't like a a single yeah that's different that's different yeah but you got a lie on vacation baby baby do you don't lie on vacation before I'm not definitely been like pretending to be in a relationship

never I've never done that like no one you've never lied on vacation no one I know is in St. Thomas we can just pretend we're in a relationship I don't I've never done that I've never been like that I don't my friends do that my friends be fucking on vacation I've never been to, I don't know. No, I'm not saying everyone fucks on vacation. I'm saying you, we are now in a full-blown relationship. No, I'm saying you with a guy. Not you, not you on vacation chilling and you meet a guy. I'm talking about you, you went on a trip with a guy. No,

my dumb ass really being loved. I don't, y'all know me. Do a dixie, lover girl. Idiot. Fabie D, you got a lie. I don't, I don't, I don't, why? Why? I don't like lying. I don't get a lie. I don't like that. Why lie? Yeah, but then you come in here two months later and you and your villain I know when you're in your villain era I know your villain origin story as soon as you come back and be like so niggas think I'm pussy

I'm like I'm like all right I'm like she gets the sand out of her toes yeah like it was just all good we got our whole fucking beach dumping all of that you don't put everything on the top like all right baby to get your shit off too we said you know so niggas think I'm pussy because things be thinking I'm pussy

who you talk to me and Rory don't think that's my thing will always be like with this lying shit you don't have to lie to me because I'm the most understanding person on earth. Everything you want for me, if you keep it honest, you can still have. That's not true. Yes, it is.

We're talking more about, we're both lying to each other about this. You can't have the commitment. And that's what niggas want. Niggas want you locked away. Marry J-son? Niggas want you locked away while they do what they want to do. No, no, no, no. We can still do everything we're doing.

Oh, yeah, he got to keep it pee. You can't try to lock her down and then you're still trying to play. That's what niggis do. I mean, I can't do that. That's what they do. That's what they do. All day every day. No.

But we're saying more the vacation of we're both lying to each. We both know what this is. Like one time I went on vacation with a girl I was not dating. And when we got to the front desk, they said right this way, Mr. and Miss Sparrow, I was like, oh, he's playing along too. I loved it. I love this. He gave him my last name.

You know what it is. I believe you're in the honeymoon suite. Yes, we are. Oh, wait. Wait, hold on. Y'all don't lie every time you book something. We about to fuck this sweet up, huh? Y'all don't lie every time you book.

You one of people saying shit anniversary? Hell yeah. Every restaurant we go to in the whole con. They give you everything. The nice goose from the tower. Yeah, the swan on the bed. They give you free bottle of champagne. The cheap champagne.

They don't get you the good shit. Oh, no, I see it. That's definitely the Andre's shit. They give you the shit from the bottomless of brunch. They give you that bullshit. The bottomless. It's just seltzer water really. Yeah, that shit trash.

We don't need that. It's all good. Nah, that just makes vacations more fun. You got a lot of time. Vacations are to escape from reality. Why can't you also do that with somebody that? I lie too good. I believe my own lies.

So I just don't lie. That's the point of vacation That's called mental illness I lied too good I started to believe it Because we both know Because once you go on a trip Knowing like yo listen

We just gonna have fun And y'all both know what it is We ain't hit lying I don't go on trips like I only go on trips with my boyfriends I don't go on trips like that Yeah but then you come back from the trip And then you be like yo

So niggas think I'm pussy Because niggas be thinking on pussy That's what I'm saying So protect yourself And just go have fun Don't put too much on it Just lie Tell a nigga like I'm not talking

nobody else but you boo you know how y'all do look that nigga right in his eyes i'm not i don't do that i'm not this is my first time here i don't even front desk nigga know you by now you back like you know the front desk nigga and say lucia knowing you yeah yo like yo like you hugged you like that you're on the usual like why he know what you drink yeah because nothing will be would be worse if i got to the room like why he know you like titos and that like why he know you like tito's in that because you know some some of those resorts, like, they keep the data and know if you're returning customer. I'd never want to hear, welcome back, Mr. Farrow.

Yeah, no, no, no, no. This is my first time here. Yeah, I don't. I've never been here. I never, I never do that, though. I don't double back to the same resort. I've been like once or twice, but, yeah, I'd rather go somewhere new. Somewhere new.

Than go to the same shit. New lies. New beach, new lies. That's how I'm on it. But I don't know. Me and Peas, we left our souls on St. Thomas. I've been back there a few times. All right, well, 50 cent has released audio.

Your man can't out, out Petty 50. nobody can have petty. Yeah, yeah. There's Drake is petty. Don't get me wrong. He's the petty king. There's the petty god. And his name is Curtis Jackson.

So he's the pettiest rapper of all time. That's what we're saying. Yeah. Rapper, don't box him in. He's the pettiest man of all time. Not just rapper 50s said is the pettiest man of all time. Like more than like the royal family? I don't, you know what it is about more than the Clintons?

I don't understand why people, because again, you got to understand 50s. his life story. Whenever somebody stands over you and puts bullets into you and tries to kill you, nothing bothers you after that. Like there's nothing nobody could say, especially when you were successful, got money. What are you going to say to this man? Yeah.

He going to look at you and be like, oh, okay, you want to go down that road? Okay. Let's do it. Let's have fun. And it's not going to end good most times for you. Well, for those that don't know, 50's been going back and forth with Mano and Jim Jones with their podcast

and he leaked in audio conversation with the landlord of where they record saying that Jim owes like 180K but 50 did just post while we're recording that that Jim did pay it all back and he said I'll still talk to the landlord but he wants to buy the place that they record at which I believe the landlord has some type of deal with them

as far as he could buy some of the podcast if he wanted to which is probably the most petty thing on on fucking earth. But I saw him may know yesterday do TMZ. He said, beefing with 50 is profitable.

Like there's a reason why Calid told Rick Ross you should go dis 50. Like, it'll help you. 50 will keep that shit going. Yeah. Yeah.

He'll apply to everything. He'll make it funny. Like a back and forth with 50 does help your career. Yeah. I mean, when you, if that's the attention you want,

if you just want clicks and to go viral and things like that and have fun. If that's what you want. But now if you show up to your studio one day and it's a government sees on the property saying that it has been sold, it's not going to be too funny. Then it's not laughs. And then we got to find some else to record. And then we got.

So, you know, I don't know if you want to go down that lane and laugh with 50 like that. I don't want to do that. Hey, 50, I love you. You know, but I don't understand why anybody would want to get into a back and forth with 50. Yes, you're going to get clicks and views. Mm-hmm. But if he decides to get really petty and start like, affecting business.

I mean, he has a great team of lawyers that will make things very difficult for your business models, all I'm saying. I don't want to see that. I think it's unnecessary. But, you know, hopefully this is just, you know, a bunch of rappers from the city going back and forth talking shit, having fun on the internet. Well, Jim and 50 have had a weird relationship for a little bit now. But, Jim, but 50 has had a weird relationship for, with a lot of people.

And now everybody, everybody. I mean, him and Fat Joe was caught out of the Nick games. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They had a weird. They had real beef. This is what I'm saying. So we've seen 50 make amends and be cool with people.

But, you know, I just think that he's somebody that he lives for this petty shit. This fuels him. This gives him something to just, you know, just be petty about and just have fun on the internet with. But again, it could really affect your real business, though. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean, who's been unscathed in a 50 beef? Unscathed?

I don't know if anybody is. I mean, the Ross thing, all right, the Pim and Curly shit was funny. And then he took his baby mother shopping. Like, that was wild. And then 50 launched his whole blog based off that raw shit. The only thing that saved Ross and that whole thing was that's when Ross started making the best music of his life. And 50 started focusing on other things except for music. So it looked like Ross.

Ross did come out unscathed in that regard. I wouldn't say unscathed, but it looked like he came out. His baby mother was on camera shopping with 50s. It looked like he came out, you know, on the better side of that. Like, he's been at success and he still was able to... The music was just undeniable. He was making good music. Yeah.

Like the officer Ricky shit didn't really matter that much when the music was that fucking good. But, I mean, shit, young Buck would tell you 50's going to record a phone call. As he should. Do y'all, don't, don't let me cry on the phone and you record it. Y'all record your phone calls now? Do I record my phone calls? what type of phone call? Not like every phone call, but like

business phone calls. Well, anything Zoom related, yeah. There's the AI plug in that. Yeah, that's the AI. You can also record everything. Yeah. Most of the business calls that should be recorded are typically on Zoom and that's always,

you always see with us. Yeah, you always see it's recording. Hope you know this is being recorded. Yeah. Like, do I record when somebody don't know, I'm recording? I'm not doing that. I don't play that game.

I don't know. Why? I just wouldn't be talking to somebody if I felt like I had to record them. We wouldn't have a conversation. Isn't that illegal in New York? There's certain states where you can't record calls without people's, like, permission to know. I think it is illegal in New York. I've done it. Why? Don't say nothing. Don't say nothing. Why have you recorded a phone call? Because sometimes, like, I'll be too into the call talking. I don't really be hearing what they're saying. So I've recorded like an argument call or like a breakup call

and not listen back and be like, I forgot to make this point. Can I ask you some? How many argument calls have you had with the same? No. How many breakup calls have you had with the same person? It depends on the person. Okay, so how many breakup calls has one guy gotten before? Just like a random guy.

I broke up with my ex-life. We broke up like seven times in like the course of two years. What's up? Why you keep picking on me today? Like, is you pool? No, I'm not picking on you. I don't like niggas and yellow hat. I'm not picking on you.

I'm just asking you a question. Yeah, that's it. You're asking the wrong. Like, all right, so when you listen back, is it AirPods? You put it on the Sonos. Nah. Are we banging it in the whip? Like, how do you listen back?

You just like this? You have your phone on speakerphone recorded on your computer and then play it back on your computer and screen share with your home girls so they can hear. Nah, we, that's way too much. Yo, you playing my shit on the summer jam screen? At that point, you got it. Like what's up, man? What are we doing?

You playing, you playing your conversation. You playing your conversation. conversation with your own girls that you recorded on your laptop for what like what's the what you were playing them in the conversation with you ain't never watched game tape before doing that to get better arguing is fucking this is the great debaters like the fuck y'all watch sex tapes back to feel oh okay I could probably do this move next time but I can't watch an argument back to be like I could be better at this I can make this point better I can be less emotional when I'm arguing all right but do you have like how many arguments do you have like on your computer oh just like to

Okay. So you don't save all your work. No. Once you get better, you just delete the. Okay. I think I respect it. I can kind of respect that. Yeah. But are you trying to get better at arguing or are you trying to figure? No, I'm trying to get better at problem solving. Because sometimes I get emotional and I don't get my point across.

So I want to be better at that. Okay. But it's hard if you don't hear it because you can't, when you're emotional, you're not listening. So you don't remember what you said. So when you record it, it's like, oh, I messed up right here. I should listen better. I should have told this lie. That's all she's doing.

She's trying to look for the pocket. She's not studying herself. The lie pocket. She's studying his reactions to figure out how she can manipulate better. Okay, he kind of fell for that one. So let me lean more. You don't see everything in a terrible lens because y'all are terrible people. I'm just trying to be a better.

Now we're terrible people. We don't record no argument. Yeah. We don't record. You don't want to be better. Y'all don't want to be better. Y'all not trying to problem solve. No, I am, but I'm just not recording myself trying to be a problem.

And I also don't like when somebody said, I didn't say that. Yes, you did. I didn't say that yes the fuck. I didn't say it like that yes the fuck you did. I have it. You see why you should just lie on the beat? Roll that beautiful bean footage. Aesap Rocky is putting out an album,

Roy. I don't know if you know that. If the girl ever played back my fucking argument, what are you going to do? You ain't going to leave. The relationship is over at that point. You're showing. Sue and Universal.

Someone universal. Everybody getting sued. So Aesap Rock is putting out of album. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a great. title because we're dumb to believe that he's going to put this out. It's been going on for what, five years? He beat his case and did an album announcement with the date and everything, never got it. So he said sorry for the way. He did this in Word Art the day he posted it. Don't be dumb. Finally here. Thanks Tim Burton for helping me make this movie coming soon. Oh, so it's a movie.

Okay. My thing is, why is Rocky putting out music? He might be passionate about it still, but Let's just paint the scenario. You're married to a billionaire, a mogul of a wife. You have three beautiful children. The music industry is dying, especially our genre, hip-hop, is not doing what it once was. Why would I spend time away from my beautiful family to record music and put it up? This would be the best time to ever put music out. There's no pressure I don't have to confide or what may have to work.

or deal with the current sound it doesn't matter there's nothing to my livelihood that's the perfect time I think to create okay creating from a place of just wanting to create that's even why I don't care what it does why I even did my first project

and I mean me and AACR rock air clearly like the same person we've had the same impact on on music and fashion and just the culture of the same shit same shit I did it because I did it from a place where this is not my livelihood Like, I'm not making it from a place where I need to pay.

My rent is paid elsewhere. It's with this gig. I can do whatever I want over here and not have to worry about how we navigate. Like when we're here, sometimes we talk about shit or clip shit or title certain things because we know it has to get traction, downloads, views. I wouldn't do that if I was a billionaire outside of that. This podcast would probably be a little bit different as far as some of the topics that we do have to cover. But it's livelihood. I got a kid.

I got a mortgage. But music-wise, if I'm with a billionaire, that's probably, I make my best music. All right. Well, we'll have to see. And I got a different type of talk. Yeah, you can talk a little. And Rocky's done fine by himself. He doesn't need to be with a billionaire wife.

But it's a little different when you're with the Fenty Queen. All right. I want to hear what he did. I want to hear what Rocky did with this project. Let's hear what music he got on there, hear what he's talking about. He's obviously he has a family now and life is different. So let's hear what he did with this one. If everybody hates the album and I love it, guess what?

I made an album I love and I'm going home to my billionaire, beautiful, amazing wife and my three children. Nothing's going to change. Life is great. Life is growing. I like the album and that's all that matters because this is not really my job anymore. This is just a passion project. Tim Burton did the cover art? That's hard.

I mean, but even like Rocky, as creative as he is, I think the last three videos he's put out have been fucking incredible. I think Rocky's just having fun. He had. I told you, I don't know how he didn't. Those videos were crazy. That video he did. What was it? Was it Taylor?

Was it Taylor's... So about the joint that was in Soho with Rihanna was like on the fire escape at one point? Not that one. Because that video was it that one. What was the last video he did? I said I felt like he should have got video video. That was the one Rihanna. I think you talked about.

Was it Taylor Swift, Swifty or Swift? What was the name of that song? Josh, we was looking up. Who? Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. That's good getting the SEO over there. I see what he was trying to do.

That video was crazy. No, it was super funny. That video was insane. Taylor Swift. If you were with a billionaire, what would be your passion project? What's Maul doing once he had just, can just chill? Man, I'm just, be with the kids and in the gym every day, man, making sure I could please my lady, keep my lady happy. You'd be a gym influencer?

No, I wouldn't be. Y'all niggas would never see me. I wouldn't influence nothing. I would be a dad. I would be in the gym and picking the kids up. Like passion product stuff. Of course you'd be with your kids and this and that. Maybe something for, as far as giving back to like the community kids.

Okay. Things like that. Maybe some after school programs, like some rec centers and things like that. I think that's something to keep kids off the street and they can go somewhere safe, learn, give out some food, you know, things like that. Like just giving back to the youth, something like that. That's like a passion. You'd essentially be the first lady, like where they have to pick a charity and that's their. Yeah.

Yeah. Let's open up some rec centers around the country. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They got YMCA's. Boys and Girls Club, let's create something for our culture, like that caters to the kids from our culture, our communities where they know they can be safe and have, you know, create, you know, express themselves creatively, get into maybe, you know, give them other

options. You know how to be a rapper. You don't have to be an athlete. You can get into film. You can get it to, you know, learning how to work cameras and engineering, audio engineer and things like that. Just create a space where kids can have fun and learn and know that, you know, people in the community care about them.

Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot. Name it after our kids. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Something like that. Cool. Cool thing.

I mean, damn, now that you like went that route, I'm just going to sound like a selfish ass. So I would just go full chef. I could feed the kids. Okay. Okay.

I'm not mad at that. But I would definitely, if I had to never worry about a bill, yeah, I'd go full chef. Same. Yeah. Like culinary school?

Yeah. Or I would do like wild gardening. What do you mean? Wild gardening? Like, yeah. Like, because I told you like,

I like to arrange fly because I'm gay. Yeah. And like that's therapy to me. Yeah, I would do like gardening. That would be my thing. I'm mad at that.

Cooking in flowers. Agriculture. Yeah. Kanye said we need to bring back agriculture in the schools. I agree with him. His need to know how to plant and grow stuff. Yeah. You don't think that's crazy that we were giving everything?

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I would start. There's more of an end of the year. Wrap up type of put me on type of thing. I know you guys fuck with Jesse Reyes, but she put out one of the greatest R&B albums of this year. And I don't think it got the attention that it should have. It's an incredible, incredible album. Paden memories.

It's got that shit. Wayne's on it. Miguel is on it. Yadi. Blas. Big Sean, Ari Lennox, is some of her best writing ever. And maybe I'm just not in that algorithm. I just don't think there's enough people talking about this Jesse Rayor's.

Payton Memories is by far one of my favorites this year. I like Jesse Raeus. No, she's different. Like, it's one of those that I feel like, all right, what is not connecting for you to be a superstar? It has to be the business side of something. I feel like. Not her team, I'm saying. Like something's not connecting with the label and the DSP.

because she's doing great. Don't get me wrong. She's selling out shows. She's doing incredible. I just think she's a tier above what she's doing as far as talent and music. Her shit is incredible. And she went to the same program in Toronto with Daniel, with Raim, Shantel May, all of them. Yeah.

Patrick. He's from East Orange, New Jersey, rapper. He got a project, Pray for Me, that I've been listening to. I like this dude. New rap. All right. So it's rap. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, Chris Patrick. Pray for me. He got Suave. Oh, Swave. That's my guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love that. And everyone check out Suave stuff as well. All right, East Orange. Cool. I'm always here to support in Jersey. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I like this dude. Chris Patrick. Pray for me. What type of, all right, what's type of East Orange are we talking? No, it's, it's, where is he from? No, no, no, I don't know, but I'm saying what type of East Orange resident? Like, what's, what's the content of the music? Oh, no, his music is very, it's, it's, it's, it's like closer to Norfolk or closer to Montclair?

Damn. Because East Orange is a great question. No, I'm gonna say. Is it Cole or Chief Keith? I'm gonna say Cole. Okay, got me. We got to say Cole. If you put like that, yeah, if you put like that, I'm gonna say cold.

But, yeah, his Pray for Me Project, I've been listening to it. Sounds good, man. I like this dude. So this is somebody I think I'm a, I'm a watch out for and just, you know, pay attention to his trajectory and see what he does. Anything Jersey related, I'm here to support. I listen to this on the way. Chris Patrick, pray for me available now. Y'all, DSP. Check that out.

Oh, he's on Def Jam. Okay. Yeah. All right. Def Jam. He's all right. I like him. Cool.

Demaris, what's up? So, even though we talked about it a little bit in the, a couple minutes ago, and I was playing it all day yesterday. Ken the Man dropped her deluxe of her project kind of famous. Shout to Ken the Man. Yeah, at the top of November. So if you don't know who Ken the man is, like, you got to go, hurry Mona Leo, our neck and neck with the, like, they don't make pussy rap. They just make fuck that nigga music. And like, I'm that bitch.

I'm getting money. And we lit. That's your favorite genre. Ain't it bad to why? She's cuddled up with a man. That's your favorite genre. My bitch can a man said, my kiddick can't a man said, I'm single. I'm fine.

And the gym just got my hair dead. The hell's back long. So I can flip a nigger off again. I know them. Bitches love it when that nigger pissed me off. Yeah. Hello. I know my bitches love it when that nigger pissed me off again.

Yeah. And as soon as he called, Ken the man gonna be right downstairs in five minutes. Whatever. You said all that to say what. Shout out to her. It seems like there's a pretty big influence over the mood. Maybe she should focus on herself.

Shout to Kim the Man, though, man, though, man. Anytime you play stuff from her, I actually do think she's super talented. We give you shit about it, but she's dope. Not, she's dope. She just had a, you know, she's doing her thing. I fuck with her. So, right. With her rock.

I think Sherry signed her. Okay. I think Sherry might have signed. I think Sherry signed to Rock. Oh, she's on Rock. I didn't even know that. Yeah, so she is signed. Kinnaman is signed to Rock Nation.

She got signed, you know, in mid-20203. Oh, then, yeah, that would have been with Sherry. Yeah, that was Sherry. Shout out to Sherry, be it a genius. Sherry has a great fucking ear. Yeah, that makes sense then. Oh, and, yeah, she got the Illuminati behind her. She about to make it.

Ooh. Yeah, she about to make it. She about to make it. Do we have voicemails? You've got mail. These are sponsored by Boos Mobile. Hey, what's going on, Rory, Maul, the marriage, and the entire staff? A quick question.

When was the last time you actually had to check somebody, like face-to-face, not some scathing response to some tweet? I'm talking, like, in your adult life, had to check somebody. A couple weeks ago, my wife told me that this one particular person, like, talked shit about me years ago. when he found out me and my wife first got engaged, he said some shit like, that this nigga must have got money

because I don't see, I don't know why she would be with him otherwise. It's like some shit like that. You know, we've been married about 15 years now, and so you do the math. It's been 15 years since he said some shit like that. But I was salty at my wife a little bit because I wish you told me sooner because I've interacted with them on occasion,

but my interaction would have went a lot different if I knew how he felt. Naturally. You know what I'm saying? And it also doesn't help that one of our recent interactions, like, you tried to, like, play me in front of other women. Like, I'm not wandering eye or anything like that. I'm married, but it's like you still don't want to get played in front of, you don't want to feel sunned in front of other women regardless. I don't care what your, you know, your status is, dating status is.

So that's my, I guess my part two of my question. Do you feel like it's too late for me to check somebody about something they say years ago? even though I just found out about it. Hell, no, it ain't too late to check nobody. Sometimes you have to DM someone die slowly. Yeah. Next time you see that nigga tell him, die slow. I got some shit for you.

Die slow, pussy. It ain't never too late to check nobody, especially when it all makes sense. When the math come together and you're like, wait, hold up, this nigga just try. Nah, he ain't going to. And it's the best time when they're not expecting it. Like it's years later.

So homie not expecting to be checking. about some shit he said years ago. Yeah, I'm trying to get away from this type of behavior though. Now, fuck that. Fuck that, Rory. Even recently, I'm in limbo right now. We're going to walk all over you. With this very same thing of post the whole tweet thing.

Somebody had told me something somebody had said. And it was one of those, yo, this you moments of like, I could show you text messages. and this person was saying something about me and it was the complete opposite of what's in a text message. I did want to be like, yo, this you moment? So why didn't you? But what is it going to solve? Fuck that, man.

For what? Yeah, no, we be too nice. No, I just now know not to fuck with that. Man, you see you be too nice. Niggers walk, and niggas think they can just say whatever, do whatever. Sometimes you got slapped blood out of a nigger mouth so he tastes his DNA and then keep my name out your mouth, man. You have told our audience before that I have always,

been the part I will approach someone in two fucking seconds to say something to somebody that's always been my thing but it's never solved like I've never solved anything like but I just want to see just like it never went anywhere of like that mattered that like all right cool now now what no I feel you though I mean sometimes you can't give nobody your energy but I do think if somebody I understand we saying like I interacted with this person I wish I would have known this how they felt because now I'm sitting here Kiki and because that's your friend and like this and that I can I understand that part but then that's just going to put you

down in the rabbit hole of anything that her friends have ever said about you, now you've been concerned about. No, that's just none of your business. No, no, no, no. Just to disrespect. Just keep people at bay and... Just check the disrespect. It's okay to check disrespect sometimes.

You don't have to respond to everything. But if this dude is talking to this dude's wife about him, family... No, I know. Period. First of all, don't even... Matter of fact, now you can't talk to my wife no more. I just... I mean, I get...

I feel like if it's been so long, like, There's no point in getting yourself riled up about it. The next time he says something to you just say, you'll suck my dick, and he's going to know why. But now we fight him. Yeah, I ain't trying to fight. I ain't trying to fight. I ain't trying to fendipal with none of you.

But see, I'm on the side that my wife, girl, whatever, her friends are not my friends. And you make that mistake thinking that they are. Not always going to be on her side. But you got to be cordial with them. Like I've been through that with long-term relationship and then another long-term relationship. But I remember when we had split

I think like threads on IG had just happened and she had tweeted something about flowers or something and one of her friends was like every girl deserves so I was like I just went to one of your comedy shows you piece of shit how you bad and I had to remind myself that that's not my friend

that's her friend yeah and once you get in the weeds of that shit yeah it's not these people they'll turn on you yeah but their their priority whether even if it's positive negative in between haters shit, not their only priority is

the person you're with. It's not you. That's their friend. Yeah, but it's still disrespect though. You got to check disrespect. As men, you got to check disrespect. Not all the time, but if he's talking to my wife about me saying something slick about me to my wife, absolutely you got to check that.

No, you just got to hand him $100. No, you got to check that. Because first of all, why are you talking to my wife about me? I do got money. What's up? Like, you must be, like, you're trying to, like, make me look like less of a man to my wife. Like, you got a little wandering out of my wife. I'm more concerned what my wife said to him back.

But that's why sometimes you got to approach you. That's what I, he could say whatever. That's not my, he owes me nothing. But in you, but in you approaching, homie, you get more information. Now, I never said that. Your wife was telling me that you had just got laid off. And now you know that your wife is talking to another man about your personal shit. Yeah, but that's a friend.

I mean, and I assume. it's a gay bestie if they're talking that way. Maybe not. Well, that was unfair to put on the gay community. I'm just saying I would never, I would never say that to Demaris. Like that, that's crazy to say to your female friend. No?

About her boyfriend? Yeah. Yeah. Have Demaris and I had full-blown conversations about her relationships, my relationships, advice? Of course. Have we probably been like, yo, maybe fuck that person before? Sure.

Something like that, though? he must have money that's an insult to her not really he know he know his friend he knows he knows he knows he said that to me but he was alluding to that not being true at all he could have money but he's saying that that's not why his wife his wife loves him that's that's wild to say that's not a friend you know the crazy if i said that to you to You would feel away. If you know your friend, then if you say that to me, there's a reason you're saying that to me. You see what I'm saying?

So I mean. If I saw your boyfriend outside cheating, you would want me to tell you. What? Why are you asking me this? I'm just asking. That's the Maris of scientists. You don't care. I'm just, that's Damaris.

I'm mean to my friends too. I apologize. Like, and he just said, I would never say some shit in my brain. What are you? That's the mayor's the scientist. Five seconds ago, he just said that. I was nischam. No, but damn, you ain't even let Demaris ask if answer the question.

No, you better tell me. You better tell me. Okay. I'm just got to. Because if one of your bitches look like they breathe in on a nigga baking egg and cheese, I'm telling. No, but I've been down this role with a friend before. And I told you he cut me off and they got married and got kids. No, I would want you to tell me.

I will want you to tell me. I would want you to tell me. I want you to tell me. Now, part two to the question. I tell you, yo, Damaris, I just seen you. man he out with some chick da da da da do you tell him that yo mall said he saw you if he like how you give it to him if he saw you he saw you he saw me he saw you oh and he knows you the culprit i ain't got i'm just gonna call him like you with a bitch he got no it's you anyway he gonna know

he gonna expect for you to tell me how he gonna be mad at you you ain't his home boy are you are you gonna i i wouldn't even be mad at that i wouldn't be mad at the question are you gonna dump him because now it's awkward if y'all stay together you bring this nigga around and I didn't told you that I wouldn't bring him around I don't know I don't know it would depend on the scenario I don't know he might be cheating back he might be getting his lick back on like damn you call him getting his lick back I don't know I don't know yeah you listen to much because if I know he cheated if I know if I'm telling you that he cheated I don't if I know you cheated on him first oh oh yeah well I don't cheat at that point I'm no no no no no no no man co got to kick you like I'm like

black women don't what black women don't cheat. Especially the girls with the caramel skin. We don't cheat. Who we, thank you for the call. I thought he was going to stop lying on the spot. Yeah, like, thank you for the voicemail, man. Black women

with peanut butter skin, don't what you talk about? Yo, Pete, what you talk about? Peanut butter brown all the way down. Those of the main ones that cheating is the peanut butter skin caramel. I know Demeris cheated and I see her man out getting his lick back.

I might even go out to be like, oh, she got a friend. Yeah. No, you're not. You're going to tell me. Rory, you're definitely going to tell me. Not a- Rory bitch cheating on him. I'm not telling.

Why? That's crazy. I'm not telling him. Come on. Let's even do that. We both scenarios, what I told a guy that wanted to get at you. You have to break up with your girl.

All he's going to do is crash out and I leave. He's not going to crash out. There's no point. Wait, you think crashing out. If my girl is cheating and not leaving, it's funny. Because what that looked like? Like, what's your crash out and then now you're not going to it's like. He's going to crash out and lay down.

I'm not doing it. I don't like this false perception. I'll let the jokes go. You definitely crash out and cuddle right up there. I'll let I've crashed out and cuddled. Don't get me wrong. But not because she cheated. I was joking.

Not because she cheated. No, have I had a argument with my significant other and cuddled. No, no. Argument and crash out is different. Oh, okay. Crash out is like. What do you mean by crash out then?

Meaning you in the house breaking shit. Like you crashing out. Like the cops might be on the way. Well, I mean, then I have to get low. I don't have time to cuddle You started a podcast with this nigga That's your man Crash you're now in cuddling

Right after the crash out That's like a crash out like That's a mental like you There's something wrong with you That you can't switch from now I've crashed out I've crashed out and cuddle before I can't But we know it's something wrong with you

That's you That's like a How do you swing that fast through emotions Because after an extreme up There's an extreme down You don't want to be alone Through the extreme down That's mania

But the nudge You just crashed out on it? Damn. Yo, y'all. When I think, so when I think crash out, I'm thinking like, y'all like, like, like fighting for real. To me, that would be a crash. Well, not physical.

I'm going to put your hands up. That's where I was like, no, I've never crashed out in cuddle. Like, I've never crashed out, period in that regard. But have people had crazy arguments and cuddled? You, I saw your hand in D.C. Bro. You crashed out. That was a crash out.

That was a crash out. That was a crash out. You have to put context to that because people are going to think something way different. Oh, you did the white boy. you punched the window. It's not how it went down. Well, I don't know how it went down. He's a mistake.

You need the stitches. That's a crash out. Whenever you got to go get stitched up, that's a crash out. Oh. I was on defense. Okay. I'm sorry. And that was not a physical altercation.

No, not physical. No, you're not putting your hands on the life. Of course, I'm not that person. White boys crash out. They start breaking shit that that's theirs. Then they got to clean it all up. Rory's OCD so now he's going to have to vacuum everything. For sure.

And then go let out. And then go lay down. That is crazy to me. I'm sorry. Somebody got to leave. Like she either got to go or I'm going to States and Wales. No, at this point, even with arguments like, yeah, we should probably just go in our separate areas and calm down. But there's definitely, I've been in relationships where you have a crazy argument and then you resolve it.

Demarish resolve it like, you hungry? She asked the nigga if he was. Fuck, no, that bitch could starve. I'm a cook. I'm a cling. That's definitely DeMaris. No, I definitely ruined a party before and then like ended up like we just went home for sure. After ruining the party?

I've definitely been in like, right. We want everybody else night and went home. What do y'all be doing and y'all? I feel like I don't know y'all. Because you've never like fully lived with somebody where, yes, you guys have loud arguments and then you be like, y'all I'm about to order Uber Eats,

what you want. Like that's, that's more common than you think it is more. But that's not a crash. But I don't do that with people. I was about a lot. I stopped myself. Sorry.

But Marissa said she ruined a party. We ruined the party. And then they left together. Well, I ain't ruined it. He ruined it doing dumb shit. But we ruined everybody night. And it. ended up going home together.

It's crazy. It happens. It was toxic. I've grown. I would never do that now. But, you know, it happens. It's because you don't be at parties. Not because you're doing the nasty that night?

No, we didn't. She lied. I swear to God, we didn't. I swear to God we did. We slept back to back, mad as fuck. I'm going to come. We slept back to back, mad as fuck. Woke up the next morning arguing.

Oh, y'all are crazy. Yeah, yeah. Is that man no longer in your life? I would hope so. because you don't need that. Like, she's crazy. You're crazy and he's crazy. I need to get away from each other.

Like, leave each other alone. That's called passion. No, that's called toxicity. That's toxic, oh, no, for sure. It's a toxic relationship. Yeah. But that's more common than I think you think it is.

No, toxic relationships are very common. Two minutes ago. I just, listen, everybody shut the fuck up. It's been a pleasure talking to y'all. Y'all have a great weekend. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigger.

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