New Rory & MAL - Episode 436 | Save The Streets

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

Baby D is a bit hungover before the holidays, but we're here to lift her up. After discussing holiday plans, Rory and Mal put an end to the rumor that they're being considered for Hot 97 morning show hosts. Jake Paul got his bell rung, but Mal gives him props for even stepping in the ring. Dave Chapelle's new special further solidifies him as the GOAT of this generation. Plus, Mal has an issue with 21 Savage's "F*ck the streets movement, and who's more of a prize between Tom Brady and Gisele Bundchen #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. The volume. Baby, do you want me to do the clock? Because you all fucked up today. You sure? Can you see?

Your eyes open behind the shades. She didn't even hit the button. Baby Dee, are your eyes open behind the shades, baby, Dee? We're standing in solidarity with you. For the people that can't see this and are listening, we all have on sunglasses because DeMaris is feeling under the weather or not because of natural causes, because of things she caused herself with alcohol.

So, yeah, we're standing in solidarity. all wearing sunglasses, it's the hangover cast. Baby Dee, I feel great. Why would you do that to yourself, baby, Dee? I didn't, you don't even understand how this really isn't my fault. Like, it really isn't my fault. When I, when I calls, when I, sorry. It's okay.

Use your vowels. When I come in here, hungover of my own accord, I take responsibility, burgers and bottles, shit like that. When I got drunk against my will when I really didn't want to, now I'm just pissed. Well, I'm here. We should press charges. Where that?

Yeah. How does one get? drunk against their will. Bro, I went, I got drunk on Saturday. That was my will. I willed that. Whatever. I was hung over all day Sunday.

Mind you Sunday, I'm fucked up. I don't feel good. I'm like, you know, I promised my friend Allison that I would take her to Pregola for, because she just graduated nursing school. I promised her. Congratulations. Yes, congratulations. Sorry, promised her I would take her.

I'm like, you know, I'm just going to fight through. Take you to Pregola. Alex comes, right? Where do you? Y'all know Alex, same person at. Got me kicked out the Ice Spice show. we're at Pergola shot start coming.

They're like, yo, we're just going to go to the club for an hour. How? Why are we going to the club for an hour? We're at dinner. It's a Sunday. We have families. You know what I'm saying?

It's about to be Christmas. It's presents under the tree. Why the fuck is we going to the club for an hour? Never did you speak that way before. That's fucking insane. Like, honestly, I like here Alex's side of this entire thing, Miss Eddie Haskell, because for some reason it's always her fault.

It's literally always her fucking fault. It's always her fault. So the next thing you know is six of us and there's three bottles of Ace of Spades and three bottles of Don Julio coming towards us. Oh, that's what did it. Champagne and tequila, yeah. Yeah. That's why you feel this way.

I feel like shit. So that's that. The fact that Pergola is not enough and you need more is crazy. To me, Pergola's a club. No, that was just, that was just the opening. I'm going to go get a family. I've decided that I need someone to be accountable to. I need somebody to answer to.

I'm going to go, I'm going to have a kid and get married and have a family. Okay. Because I can't, I can't keep. No, no, no, no. What happened to the kind of man's shit? I'm cheat first. I don't cheat. bus first.

I don't bust back. What happened all of that? Don't go get a family now. Now she wants a family to settle down. She was kids. That hangover will clear about 530. Yeah, baby Dee. You ain't going to shake ass tonight.

She's going to be in this spot tonight. If not tonight, definitely why you're hearing this on Tuesday night. She'll be in the clubs and we're shaking ass. Don't let Baby Dee fool you. She just hurt. She's on the IRR right now, injured reserves, sprained ankle. She got a sprained angle. She's going to ice her.

ankle, you know, she'll be back ready for game two tomorrow night. Don't worry about it. I kind of feel like the guy that missed the car to the robbery and they all got caught and now they're all doing 15 because I was supposed to go. Oh, that's called something else. What is that? The rat. The rat? We all got locked up. You didn't make the, you didn't show up. I mismanaged my time and I missed a meeting spot. You didn't see heat. You didn't see when he was like, yeah, well, you was at. Why you ain't making it? You was busy telling. You gave her drop the die. In the Sopranos when Tony B went to jail for like 20 years for. a robbery and Tony was supposed to be there, but he had like a panic attack and passed out.

And then he said two black guys robbed him. That's why he couldn't make it. Oh, that's like Jesse Smolet, right? I was going to come, but I was robbed on the train. I just want to shout out Edin. Edin, who still works with Ram Media, contrary. We were, we were shooting here yesterday. Once people no longer work with us that you think that they no longer. Some people still work with Ram Media. He does this thing where he goes, when he comes in here, when I'm not here, and he leaves me little sticky notes. So, Edin, I want to say... That's your naughty elf.

Yeah, he left me Wang Fu with a heart and a bow through the heart. Oh, you guys have inside jokes? Well, because Eddine, you know, he does his podcast. I forgot the name of it. Is it like Borikwas in movies

or something like that? I didn't want to say it, but... Huh? Cinema poppies. Shout out to the Sinapopies. We talked about doing training. Yeah, I did too. Boer movies?

I am going to do Eddins, Cineapopies. It's called it Gasolina. Eddn, I'm going to do your Cinnapopies episode. I did it. Edin thought that I was going to do the movie To Wong Fu

Okay, got you I thought easy on training day John Legu Zambo You know, but I told him I wanted to do Hanging with the Home Boys Another John Legu Zamo movie So this weekend he was like

Yo, we're gonna do Wong Fu I was like but that's not the movie I wanted to do And I asked Ed and I said Are you sure you want me to come on your podcast And talk about the movie Wong Fu, we will be canceled You're Puerto Rican though

Yeah, I'm Puerto Rican So you know Shout out to John Legu Zamo But I was like I don't know Eddardin got in trouble Apparently he's not Puerto Rican No, Edd is not Puerto Rican. No, no, no. John is not Puerto Rican?

I believe Ed went viral for explaining that he's been lying about being Puerto Rican for his entire career. John Legg was almost not Puerto Rican. I think that's what Ed was telling me yesterday. And we can fact check it. I'm cool with a slow opener so Damaris can get her footing. Yeah. What? Edd Nguan Wynne viral.

John Legu Zamo is Colombian and American? Eddn went viral on his podcast explaining this to people. And apparently like his team even reached out and was like, yo, take that clip down. John Legu Zamo's people? I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. John Legu Zamo is not Puerto Rican? Bleu my mind. Oh my God.

Yes, I don't know, Ed and I don't know if you want me to do your podcast on my Wang Fu. I don't know if you want to be canceled or not, but I got a lot of things I would like to talk about about the movie Wong Fu. Yeah. I think in 2025 it can be very, well, 2026. Very progressive. Very progressive. I think we can have a very, very progressive comment. But, Eddie, thank you for my sticky note.

Yeah. Edna and I were in here on a Sunday. We were shooting Prince, Gerald Prince Miller's podcast. Shout to Prince. We shot an episode with him and Ken the Supreme McGriff's son, which is out now.

It was a fucking amazing conversation of two family members around the holidays, shopping it up. You know, Prince may be disciplining him a bit for some of his... Some of his antics.

His antics in the past. Some of his antics. Shout out to Kyle, who we've had on the show before. Shout out to Kyle, man. Kyle, stay out of trouble, man. Stay out of trouble. Yeah, but check out of Gerald

Miller's podcast that Mo and I are producing. So we were in here on Sunday with that and shooting that. We had a good time. Dope. And it was too much time to kill to go meet Dameris. Because Dmeris set a reservation for 10 p.m. When you start your night at 10 p.m., this is how you come to work. See, if we did 6.30, I would have been there.

Baby D, when you hang out with me, you don't feel like that the next day, right? You have good food, good drinks. I hung out with you one time in my entire life. That's it. That's all you can remember. Now at my funeral, you could talk about that one time we went to dinner, how you had a great time and you wasn't hung over the next day, right? Sure.

There you go. Bow. We are back, Rory. Instead, I was in your neck of the woods. Well, not where you live. But I was in Harlem. I went up there just, you know, pass some turkeys out. In Harlem?

Yeah, last night. Instead of going out to Pergola with. Who was you handing out turkeys with in Hong? I was. I was just wanted to go see Austin and his mom. Oh, my God. Went to Charles, uh, is it Charles Soul Food, whatever that is? Right on four or five?

Oh, my God. When they're going in, they yell your order? Yeah. my God. Yeah. Charles chicken? Is it Charles? Charles?

Yeah, something like that. Charles Pan fried. Yes. Oh, man. Had a good time? Some of the best green beans I've had in a long time. Yeah, Charles, shout out to Charles pan fried. Yeah, it was great.

If you didn't haul them, stop by. Yeah. Let them yell at you for a little bit. Yeah. Great food. It woke me up. Yeah, great food. But calm from me.

What clubs did you guys end up going to after Pagola? It's called Code. It's in Astoria. Oh, y'all. Y'all was a Styemi. You went to Stiami? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Tell us about it, baby. The expound on your night. You're committed when you go from the city to a story and you don't live in Astoria. That's a commitment. What you mean? So what they play? What are they playing in the younger club? I don't know.

I lost my voice screaming. I'm a boss. She going to call me baby, Will. And you know what pisses me off? Screaming, I'm a boss. I'm 32. 31. That song came out when I was like 21.

Why have I been screaming the lyrics to I'm a boss? 10 years. Like, I need to re-examable. It's a life of life. And screaming, I'm a boss when you got to be to work in the morning this morning. That we don't never talk about. Screaming, I'm a boss on the couch at one day. Boss has to be there too. When you gotta be at work in the morning.

I'm a boss. No, you're gonna get, you're gonna be late. That's what you want to. You might want to get home and get in bed right now is what you want to do. That's a screamable song, though. That was a good era of meek screamable songs. Outside of the intro, I'm a boss. What's when he's fucking shorty in the bathroom?

She's screaming. out I'm coming. House party. House party. Screamable song. Meek had some, some classic screamables. So pause, but. Yo, I'm about saying, how you know that? How you got about Rameke? He screams. Okay. So that's, he makes screamable music because he's screaming in all his music. Rap it along. That's very true. We are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, Text, and Data, Rory. If you didn't know that. I did not. Thank you for telling you. Merch is on sale. Got some merch left. And patreon.com forward slash new Rory and mall for every. Everything new, Rory Mall behind the scenes.

You can see what we do. Had them conversations that we don't really want to have on the public airways because that's not for everybody. True. And it's the 23rd now. I know some of you have not gotten a single Christmas gift or any shopping done. So I don't know. Maybe give someone Patreon for a month.

Yeah. That'd be a cool little stocking stuff. Or maybe we make those cards that you see, you know, that got the Applebee's one, Home Depot. They put them like in Dwayne Reed. Yeah. You should get like the new Rory and Mall Patreon card. Yeah. That you could gift someone.

Except we don't tell them. way where you we just put them on it like we just stick them on there in front of applebee's um maul i may mess this up so please everyone correct me i do want to give the rundown of the holiday schedule um happy holidays to everyone of course you're listening to this on tuesday but we will be off for our thursday and friday episode because we will be celebrating jesus his alleged birthday um and then we'll be back next tuesday and then we're off for new year's eve and then we are back at the top of January, January 6th, we will be back. All right, Roe, so what are you doing for the holidays?

What's the plans? This is where I... Is Amara going to run you a muck? I already does. This is where I used to love Thanksgiving and Christmas being so close to each other, holiday season, but when you host, this back-to-back thing is going to be...

I'm not ready. I'll say that. Like, I'm going to rush out of here just to go clean my entire house that's still dirty from Thanksgiving. Yeah. So... Everybody coming over? Yeah.

It'll just be a repeat. Repeat a thanks, yeah. Good times, man. We'll see. Enjoy the time with the family. Baby, Dee, what you doing? You going home?

Mm-hmm. All right. Thank you for that. Yeah, I'll drive back down tomorrow. You drive back down to Syracuse? Yep. Okay. Shut up to Syracuse.

Okay. Down to Syracuse. Oh, up. Man, okay. Maybe I'm not driving up to Atlanta. Drive down to Syracuse. Let me know when you get there if you drive down to Syracuse. Let me know when you get to

drive down. That's what Christopher Columbus said. I'm going to drive on over to India. Yeah, I'm going to drive to India. I know, huh? Drive over there. Well, you do anything to be in the south of north? I know what's your plan.

I know you're not buying nobody. I'm going to go see the family. I mean, my nephew, you know, he's, the kids get stuff. But I'm going to go see the fam, spend some time with them. And I may or may not take a vacation just solo, you know, just to kind of just reset for the 2026. I hear that. That's it. Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that.

Yeah, man. Be nice to do. I think I want to bring in a new year on the beach at midnight. That'd be cute. And then watch the sunrise. Is it like really expensive? I've never done a New Year's outside of the city. Like, does it cost more?

It can be. It depends on where you go. It can be. What if I want to just like go to D.C.? Fire. That's just some random shit. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool, too. Get a nice hotel room in D.C.

Yeah, that could be comfortable. Just chill for New Year's. Yeah, that'll be dope. Yeah, I don't know if I have any New Year's plans. I mean, DeMaris will be pregnant and married by then. Mm-hmm. By New Year's? All right.

That's what's up. Going back to Q. who's going to get a homegrown fella? Homegrown. A nice local. I'm cool. That she went to middle school with. Homegrown fella.

You cooking baby D for Christmas? I usually do seafood for Christmas. The seven fish? She knows about the seven fish. Are you telling of you? The seven fishes, she knows. You know the seven fishes, baby D. I only do like three fishes, though.

Like shrimp, crab legs and lobster. That's what's up. Yeah. She just named three names that are not fish. She said shrimp, crab legs. and what lobster all right so what are like the three fish

all so now name the three fishes that you cook talking about I'm gonna do the three fishes shrimp crab legs and lobster that's the fish

yo baby Dee is so hung over right no nobody told you it'll be baking there yeah nobody told you to go for fucking drink, Aces Wade, and Don Julio.

Look at you. That's you a mess. What else y'all had in the section? That's a lot of bottles for three young women. You know. You know. No, we don't know. Y'all had six bottles and it was three.

Oh, you know how that be. That's why I'm hungover. We had to drink all that. That's what I'm hungover. Oh, my God. That is hilarious. As long as everybody made it home safe and everybody's good. Yeah.

Alex had to get up. Like, you know, when you drunk and like, like, I don't have, people say I don't have a real job and I get so angry. Like, this is a real job. But like, I can come in here at 12 o'clock hungover and it's funny. Anything I do other than like die makes this podcast better. Like anything. How would you pass away? Oh, that's not funny.

That's not. No. But like people passing away isn't funny, but there are funny ways that people have passed away. Like what? Name a funny way that somebody's better. I'm not going down that time. No, no. Maybe on Patreon.

I would love top ten funniest ways you can die. That sounds like a clip. But no. Touching puffer fish. Right. Dumbass snorkeling retreat? We, yeah. I can come in here and y'all will just laugh at me.

Like me being drunk, y'all just laughing me. You all just laughing me. Like, if like anything that happens to me is lower. If I go to jail, it's all funny. Yeah. My friends have like real jobs. Like Alex is building a jail right now. Like she got to put outlets in a jail.

She's building a jail. Yeah. Oh, she's a Democrat. Go ahead. Like privatized? No, she's an electrical engineer. But, yeah, like, imagine trying to do some working out electricity drawing and shit while you drunk. I could never do no shit like that.

Yeah, no, that's a job. You got to be alert. Can you imagine being a prison inmate and thinking electrical engineer is coming and Alex show up and you've been locked up for 10 years? Chill, boy. Just chill. Relax. Calm down. Lee trying to get canceled already going on.

Wait, what's canceled for what? Anytime there's even a. like a big female CEO that the inmates go crazy. Yeah. Not like a bad electrical engineer. They'd be calm. No, no.

They definitely would not be calm. Jesus. It'll be pandemonium on that tear for sure. Well, on Saturday night into Sunday, my phone was blowing up with more congratulations and I'm thinking, oh, people are getting some of the netflute, I can't speak, Netflix news

a little late. You know, they read the article, this and that. No, everyone was congratulating me on being the, new morning show host of Hot 97. You're the new morning show host of Hot 97? You too. No, you too.

Me. Yeah. I've never spoke to nobody. I'll see you at 5 a.m. I've never spoke to nobody from Hot 97. You have side ventures. Well, let's start at the beginning. Okay.

Let's start, I want to say Friday. Hot 97 announced a coming soon image with three individuals. And I am not here to shit on these people the way everyone else did in New York. but we're just not familiar with who these three people are, to be quite honest. And they could be very talented. Rondell Smith, Lana Harris, and I don't know if this is a playoff like a million, whatever. Is this real?

Okay. Everyone assumed that this meant they were taking over the morning show, which everyone just started shitting on me in the comments. See, this is why the show is not fucking valid. DeVroo just be making shit up. Well, let's start with the actual words that I did say, because I know you guys always ignore the words that were said

and just go with what you assume you heard. I had said, I had spoken to the person that was in negotiations. I don't know if they're taking the gig. But I thought it made sense for how to reach out to them. Also, if you read

what Hot 97 posted, it says the new Hot 97 hosts. They have cleared house on so much shit. It does not say the morning show hosts, what's so ever. Right. But then Flex put a bunch of crying emojis under it and now I'm really fucking confused

on what's going on. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. So then come Saturday, I get a DM from a YouTuber that was sent an email from somebody that I will obviously not say their name, but a former employee of, who bought H97, I Media, I, yeah, something like that. Something I. Yeah, they bought it from Evis. She was a former employee there during layoffs.

She was let go, but she still had all the emails of the potential hosts and what they would be offered for it. a three-year deal. We were on there at a million dollars. I'm not sure if they were saying a million dollars for three years. A million dollars for three years. Or a million dollars each year if you take a three-year deal. Now, I am not shaming anyone's salary whatsoever. I've been dead broke. I want to make sure I'm not coming across as that. But if you are on a W-2 in New York City and New York State, after taxes, a million dollars split twice, city tax, state, federal sacks.

You could be a manager at Tripoli and make that shit in three years. Yeah. That's a fact. But this is all that. And then y'all got split in a half. Yeah. So what's up? Nothing.

Nothing is up at all. This is all news to me. I had no idea about this. Some people on there, Gabe P from on the radar, S.O. and Hyniken. Armand Wiggins. Yeah. Just a bunch of people that Media Co was looking at. I can speak for myself.

I have not spoken to one person from Hot 97. Nobody's reached out. I have no idea the validity of this entire thing. But I mean, it's a podcast, so we can have fun. I don't know if that mill's getting it done, bro. Well, we'll be the price. I'm not saying that on the air. I know how much y'all value, we'll be the starting price.

I know how much y'all value, like, your. Well, I know. My first question would not actually be the price. It would be, what are you expecting of Maul and I at Hot 97? What is this true commitment? Am I flex where I have to wear the brand on my full? forehead for the rest of my life and dedicate everything I have to this morning show. Or am I showing up for four hours every morning and getting the job done and just getting good ratings and then going

about my merry way? That's what I would want to know. Like what are you really expecting out of a morning show co-host right now? But even that, you don't want to do that shit. We were just talking about how that shit takes up your entire life. I mean, yes, but we were also saying as podcasters, we can relate that we already can't get a fucking day off or go on vacation or see our families or you know no we can't we're literally doing it this weekend i'm up at four a m anyways with amara like shit i could just go there for a few hours and walk over here that's too much listen i wouldn't mind having health insurance fair that's fair sometimes it's cool to be an employee i don't know if i want to talk that much oh no you just repeat the takes yeah it's a bad pitch to

for them to hire us. Yeah. I don't know if I want to talk that much, though. I mean, you know, there's breaks in between. You think they let me DJ? Why not? Because they have DJ. Yeah, but I mean, we create a playlist, no?

Probably. I'm sure they were programmed to. Yeah. And first of all, morning radio is you just got to play the hits. People don't even want to. Play the jazz. Don't play a new song, which you are feeling like that. So it's really not that bad.

If you think about it, if you just allow, again, this is my first time hearing it. So this is just all just us joking and having it. having fun with this. I've never heard about Hot 97 thinking of Rory and myself at all. But if they wanted us to do them on the show, I would sit in there and I would say, okay, but how are we doing it? Are you going to let us do it our way? Because if it's just music and us just talking shit in between the songs, it's not that bad. That's kind of my point. I would ask, what are you looking for from us besides just the ratings at a certain way? Let us create the playlist. Let us have fun, talk shit a little bit. And, you know, but.

Y'all curse so much, though. I don't know about radio for y'all. Y'all curse so much. I don't have to curse. Yeah. Okay. Try it for the rest of that episode. Okay.

Are you going to get me angry? Baby, I don't curse that much, though. You think I curse a lot when I speak? Yes. We all curse more than... You're not a hard curse. Like, you're not a hard swear, though. Like, me and Rory are hard swears.

Like, we swear, like... Trying to get better. It's bad. But you just say curse words, like, in passing. So you do curse often, but it's not. it doesn't feel like you're cursing because there's not so much aggression behind it. Me and Roy are like, fuck people. Like that's our favorite curse word.

Yours is like shit. Ours is like, fuck. That's he can take that million dollar salary pretty quick. Yeah, but I can clean that up for the right price. Oh, no, I think I could. I easily could too. Oh, for the right price?

You know, having a curse price and a non-cursed price. I got a curse price. I got a curse fee. And I got a non-courge fee. Yeah, absolutely. Also, like, the way radio has changed in digital, like the way Breakfast Club dominated on YouTube and socials throughout the last decade, are they looking for that? Because that's a, that takes a lot, not a budget just for co-host,

but for digital people, program directors, producers, like, that takes a lot as well. That's not just being there for four hours. We got to do hour long format interviews as well as the radio. So to me, that's not like I'm not in and out of there five to nine. Like you got to stay there. That's why I'm saying that price doesn't get it done. Yeah. That price definitely wouldn't get it done. Even though that we've never spoke to anybody, nobody ever approached us about that.

So I'm not sure where this came from. But yeah, that number would definitely not. I'm going to just put that out. That number would not get it done. I think shout out to our brothers, S.O. and Heineken. They would be great. But if you think, if the marriage thinks we'd have to curve some of our point of view in some of our language.

That's on hiding up there would be. The FCC's dream. I think they'd do a great job, but they would have to do the same thing with us with curb how we speak about certain things. They'd be great, but I still think the person that I had mentioned last week that was in negotiations is still the best fit,

even seeing this list. I do too. So, I mean, I hope that works out. I still negotiations in that regard. But, yeah, apparently we're the new hosts. we got to check with Netflix that this is okay, but I mean, I'll see you at 4 a.m. on January 1st. Let's do it. I'm looking forward to it, man.

Speaking of Netflix, Rory, this weekend was a big weekend on Netflix. It was. Friday night, Netflix, Anthony, Joshua, Jake Paul. The fight that we've all been, you know, I guess we were waiting for it. We thought it was going to be tank, but then it had to pivot to Anthony, Joshua. Bless you, baby, Dee. Thank you, sorry. It was throw up, I don't think that was a sneak.

Was that throw up? You threw up over there, baby, Dee? Sorry, don't worry about it. We got somebody to clean that up. So the Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul fight was Friday, Rory, and everybody had their, you know, apprehensions going into it. Is this fixed? What is it going to, baby, Dee? I don't even know what that was. Did that come out your mouth for your ass, baby D?

Which one was that? Was that a sneeze, cough or fart? Which one was that? It's all kind of gas is happening right now, baby D. Are you okay? Okay. You all right? All right now.

I'm going to try this one more time. Anthony Joshua. Jake Paul. And Jake Paul. Netflix exclusively on Netflix. Exclusively on our new home, Rory. Our new partners. Netflix.

So the fight happened and, you know, going into it, me and P. was talking, you know, all week. I was like, man, I don't know Jake Paul might get killed. He might get hurt. There's no way. But then I was apprehensive because I was like Anthony Josh, this is Anthony Joshua's biggest payday. Maybe he, okay? Yeah.

You all right? Good. This is Anthony Joshua's biggest payday. And we all knew, obviously, Anthony Joshua was the toughest opponent that Jake probably got into the ring. I mean, he fought Mike Tyson. but an older Mike type. Anthony Joshua is some of the toughest opponents

that a professional boxing fits. But you know, Anthony Joshua is taking a couple losses in the real boxing world. He's taking a couple losses. He's kind of, you know, people are like he's not the fighter that he once was. So, you know, the Jake Paul fans felt like this was a safe fight for Jake.

They felt like, okay, you know, Anthony Joshua took a couple losses. You know, it's like this is the perfect time. Let me first say, salute to Jake Paul for even taking this. fight for even getting into the ring. I think Jake Paul has proven that he's not afraid to fight anybody. He's proven that he's one of the greatest marketers.

He's proven that he's one of the greatest promoters. He's definitely the greatest promoter when it comes to women's boxing that I think we've probably seen. So shout to to Jake Paul for that alone. There's not many people that would be willing to get in the ring with Anthony Joshua if they weren't quote unquote real boxers. For $100 million I get my ass with by Anthony Joshua. break my joe.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, 100%. So the fight has respect that Jake Paul has built himself in a position as a to do that marketer to even, no one would put that offer on the table. Right. No one's, yo, Netflix, Rory, Anthony Joshua. Right. You know, I might make the hot 97 salary. Yeah, but Jake Paul has obviously worked themselves into a position where the money to draw is huge.

It's a huge name, huge brand, and a lot of people tuned in to watch it. but I think what happened is what most people thought was going to happen. Jake Paul was going to get hurt. He was going to get knocked out. Well, I will give him credit. He didn't go to sleep. He just got his jaw broken in two places and wasn't able to, you know, his corner was like, you know, and that's it. The ref was like, yeah, let's just stop before Jake gets seriously hurt.

Hey, I was waiting for six-nine's rendition of through the wire to get the canvas. I didn't know six-nine was still around. Yeah. That was like the biggest shock. He's streaming. Okay. He's doing the stream thing. All right.

Yes. Do I give Jake Paul credit for getting the ring of course? You have to. You have to. For sure. This is the first time we've seen Jake Paul go against somebody where he had a significant physical difference. Yeah. Or age difference.

He's always kind of had the upper hand who he was fighting no matter what. Mm-hmm. Anthony Joshua is probably the perfect. like Paul's physically fit boxer probably right now. As far as height, reach, knowing how to move at 6-6 like that, that quickly and smoothly is very difficult. Yeah. I'd be shitting my pants.

I didn't know he was that big. Like getting in that ring, I would probably shit my pants. So I give Jake Paul credit there. I'm not going to give a bunch of credit to somebody for running for five rounds and grabbing legs. Yeah. He got one or two shots. where I was like, all right, cool.

I think, you know, AJ's just trying to get him to get his hands down. That's why he let that one shot go. Yeah. It was boring. I mean, the knockout was incredible, but duh.

Like, even it was, the first three rounds were some of the worst ref boxing I've ever seen in my entire life. Like, they were even given penalties to AJ. It was like,

dog, this guy's tackling his legs. What does he supposed? Even the announcer towards Dan was like, yes, that's not his fault. You can't give him, you can't have a point taken away.

Well, the rep said that. someone is hanging on his leg. Well, the ref said that. The ref said, you know, people didn't pay to see this. So, you know, please stop. But, I mean, listen, at that point, I think Jake Paul realized like, damn, like, I'm not, first of all, I'm not, my wind is not as up as I thought it would be.

Yeah. I'm doing a lot of, you know, running, dancing in the ring. My cardio is not what I thought it was going to be. I mean, it was a whole fight. Yeah, and then, you know, he, he landed one on Anthony Joshua that I think he might have felt like would have shook anybody else a little bit. And once he saw Anthony Josh just walk through that like nothing had happened,

I think at that point Jake Paul knew all right. Yeah, this is, I'm outmatched physically. I can't do nothing with this guy. Let me just not die here tonight. Yeah. And I think at that point it became clear that Jake Paul was in flight mode. I mean, I give him credit for taking the knockout

because when he was knocked down right before that in that round, he could have stayed down. Yeah. I respect that because I know he couldn't see. Yeah. I know his brain was he got into survival mode where his brain just was carrying his legs wherever the fuck they were going to go.

And he sat there to take a shot that broke his jaw in two places. So I respect that after he was grabbing the legs and doing all that shit and making it a boring fight, he got up to go get knocked out. Like, he could have stayed down. So I respect that he gave us a show

and got up to get knocked the fuck out. He got his jaw broke for the brand. He did. He got his jaw broke for the brand. Just so he could stick his tongue out and make a t-shirt. Yeah, split out blood. You know that. That's part of it.

That's part of the allure. you know, it's not fake. Yeah. It's not rigged. My jaw's really broke. I'm really spitting up blood. You know, that's part of it just to prove to people that I'm really in this ring, really taking shots and it's not scripted.

So I don't know what this does to Jake Paul's brand moving forward. I don't know if Jake Paul gets back in the ring and fight after this. He definitely does. I don't know if people are going to want to see it, though. I think you know what I'm saying? Like, I just don't know if people are going to, people have been waiting for him to get beat, wait for him to get knocked out. It happened.

I mean, who do you go? Unless, and I think it would have been worse with Tank. Because Tank is faster than Anthony. He's not as strong as Anthony Joshua. Yeah. He's faster. He hits hard. You know, I think the loss would have been worse with Tank.

So does he go back and fight Tank after this? I think that would be the play if they can all get on the same page. And Tank can, because again, we really don't know what happened behind the scenes with that. Yeah. We could take Jake Paul's word for it. But there's other guys. Obviously, you could put Jake Paul versus. and it's a draw.

Well, he's going to take some time. He's going to take a year, but I still think people are going to tune in for Jay Paul. But we talked a few episodes ago, like the Allure is starting to come off a little bit no matter what. Like, things are always going to start to plateau. But people are still going to tune in with Jay Paul.

I mean, listen, man, if they don't, he's made a lot of money. His promotion company has promoted some really good fights. Shout out to Alicia Baumgartner on defending her belt. I think what she's doing on the woman's side is great for the sport. So I think Jake Paul is going to probably move more into just promoting full-time

than actually being the draw and being the talent. But listen, you never know. If there's somebody out there that they feel like they can get another big bag for, then, you know, Jake Paul's obviously proven that he'll get in the ring with anybody. So salute to Jake Paul and his team for putting together another great fight night

on Netflix. Now, after the fight ended... I just want to ask, did you think it was going to go more than one round? Because that was what a lot of people were saying. Yeah. It was a win for Jake Paul because it went.

I thought it was going to go three rounds. Do you think Anthony Joshua held back a bit so we could get a fight? Yeah, he definitely held back. I mean, Anthony Joshua could have went in there and he could have put Jake Paul away in the first round if he wanted to. Anthony Joshua is, you know, light years ahead of Jake Paul in any fight ring. But I think that that was part of it. He wanted to kind of just dance around a little bit and exchange punches here and there. But after a while, it got to point where Anthony Joshua was like, all right, enough is enough.

Let me just got to get this night over with it. But even then, though, like I feel like, Anthony shot. He probably thought about knocking about the first round, but Jake was running around everywhere. Yeah. It's like sometimes when you play Spades somebody that doesn't know how to play Spades, it fucks up how the game goes and they may even win just because they're not playing the right way.

It's fucking up how the game goes. That's how Jake Paul was in their fight. Jake, it may have went longer because A.J. really couldn't have knocked him out because he wasn't boxing. Jake Paul had no chance. That's not boxing. Jake Paul had no chance in this fight.

Oh no, of course now. I'm thinking maybe it went the distance because he wasn't boxing. He was running and grabbing legs. Like, you can't knock that person out. Well, yeah, I mean, he, Anthony caught up to him. He got a box to get knocked up. He caught up to him when it was time. He used to, you know, that right hook was the, that was the Netflix.

You know, do, do, do, do, do. That's what Jake Paul heard. Please. Just dead silence after that. All Jake Paul horrors, are you still fighting? Are you still watching? Are you still fighting? Jake Paul didn't want no more of that.

He saw his face. He was like, ooh. He knew his shit was. broke. One thing about it, you know it was something snap. I've never heard my face do that before. I don't know what that sound was but it wasn't good. And also in the interview, there's my fuck with Jake Paul.

He's like, I think my jaw is broken. Then stop talking. No, I mean, he was letting be known. Like that's, again, that's part of it. That's part of like, listen, this is not fake. I really got hit. I really my jaw is really broke. That's part of the brand. It's show people that it's not scripted the way they think it is. What's not

your favorite or best knockouts? What are some of the funniest knockouts to you? because I even think Jake Paul has one of those with Nate Robinson. No, that wasn't funny. I was scared for Nate. No, of course. I mean, once he was okay, it was a funny knockout. Yeah.

It was a very funny knockout. Manny Pachial, because they just, they memed up every Michael Jackson. Mani, are you okay? Are you okay, Manny? Like, that was one of the funnier knockouts. Zab Judah, was it Ricky Haddon? Yeah. Was Zab did the stanky leg?

Yeah, that was a funny knockout. It wasn't funny, but it was kind of funny. Who was Mayweather fighting when the ref didn't call time? And May that was like, well, all right. I mean, it wasn't funny per se, but it was kind of fucking funny. Floyd Mayweather and Victor Ortiz when he headbutted him and he thought that the ref had called time and Floyd was like, there's no time. So I'm just clean knock you out when you're just standing there.

Yeah, protect yourself at all times. Listen, they gave Floyd a lot of shit about that, but it's a fight. but if nobody calls time, like I'm not going to punch you. Oh, this Nick Young Minicon fight was, I don't know what Nick was doing. Nick went completely out the ring.

I don't, yeah, this was, I don't know what calls Nick that wanted to do this, but, you know, he had fun, I guess. Fun night, right? Going to get a work in, get a little sweating. Yeah, you know, it's all good. Get the pen working.

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You watch The Unstoppable, Roy. did because I watched the next day. Yeah, yeah. I didn't stay up that late. You watched the unstoppable. I watched the unstoppable act. I don't know what you watched in your home. I listened to Nas, the N album.

Yeah. Which I never understood why they gave Nass someone shit about that too. Yeah. That's another conversation. Yeah, I hear you. You know what I mean? But Dave Chappelle's new special, what did you think? Where to begin?

The second half of that was, I wouldn't say some of the best, stand-up comedy I've ever seen, but some of the best stand-up I've ever seen in my entire life. By far. And I hate to even, like, do the comparison thing, but, you know, Chappelle is of that cloth of George Carlin, where so much of what is going on is funny, but it is very much political with a point of view. Okay.

And that second act, even as he was going into it, this would be the longest closer ever. how he tied everything back to his original point throughout the four different segments he did in that second half was genius. To write that out would be genius, but to perform it that way and that type of style was like, I mean, Chappelle is the goat. What do you say at this point?

Yeah. The first half was very funny. Some stuff repetitive. You know, I think Chappelle's trans jokes are hilarious. but any comic like at some point let's just move on but you know still funny in there and Chappelle just likes to piss people off first half was very funny few parts were a little dope but that second half was masterful I watched the second half specifically three different times it's some of the greatest writing I've ever heard I enjoyed it I thought it was very important

I thought um well Dave hit it on the nose his his voice has become more powerful than he intended it to be. So naturally, I think that his comedy style has to change when your voice becomes that powerful and your brand becomes that big. I think your brand and your style has to change a little bit. But it was entertaining. It was informative. I love the fact, like you said, the second half of it is closer, how he tied everything

together. The man act, which, you know, Puff was found guilty of. He ties it all the way back to, you know, you. You know, obviously Jack Johnson. Just the way he did that was just masterful. I think that, you know, Dave is one of the few comedians that can give us, you know, give us the mirror to look in as a country and as a people and say, you know, these are the things that's always been around.

These are the things that we've always had to deal with. These have always been our issues. But then find light and fine humor in that. And I think that's what Dave did with his closer. The way he closed it with, I stand with Israel. You know, everybody's talking about. that, but even that was very intentional. Yeah.

You know, and I think it just speaks to what Dave has been able to accomplish him, talking about buying up all the property in the town in Ohio. You know, it just speaks to what Dave is doing as a man, as a talent, as a, you know, one of the greatest comedians, one of the greatest writers. You know, he's been able to do some, some groundbreaking things and, and build his brand to a level where, you know, he can do some incredible things. on stage, just him and the mic. So I thought it was great.

It's not the, you know, slap, knee-slap comedy that people probably was expecting. But I don't think we should go into Dave Chappelle Specials expecting that anymore. But even like when he did his first Netflix deal, he did the George Floyd one, I think, was 713. He also did the one after HBO started streaming Chappelle show, a redemption song, I believe, was that. It was very much like that in a much longer. form of the stuff that he's been doing.

But that second half, I mean, it, like music and stand-up, like the classic greatest stuff speaks to the exact time of what's happening. Like, if you go listen to I'matic, you know what 1994 in New York City was like. If you weren't there, you could just listen and you know now what that is. How Chappelle, like you said, put the mirror in front of us to how our society has become so hypocritical. He showed both sides, even to the metaphor of him buying up the entire Silver Springs, Ohio. This would be gentrification if the races were removed. Absolutely. And then he gives a perspective of even understanding the slumlords that gentrify, like, what about that firehouse? Yeah, exactly.

I understand. That's not my problem. Right. Oh, you can't afford that rent? I can afford it. Right. Right. It's just showing, he's showing both sides. And I think a lot of of comics and a lot of artists show one side. Even down to what we ended up cutting, Demaris, when it was a certain mass shooting we were talking about. And I said, Demaris, I don't have a conspiracy. I'm not saying I know anything that's happening here. This just seems fishy, which is fine. But the internet, myself included too, I am a hypocrite. we've become so much into the deep diving of conspiracies that, yes, some conspirators are a thousand percent true. Is there hip hop cops? 100%. Was Nipsey possibly targeted by hip hop cops? Sure.

Did Nipsey also happen to be from a gang and maybe there's nothing really here whatsoever? The Dr. Sebi thing. Well, my man's also died from AIDS with Dr. Sevi. We've all just gotten so deep into this that sometimes the things in front of our faces just really is what it is. Is puff a piece of shit for beating up Cassie? Absolutely. Is that man act shit fucking nuts at the same time? Two things can be true.

Like that's what I got out of that entire second half. Two things can always be true. If you go on Twitter right now, everything, no point in 10 is so black and white when we were raised in the gray area of things. And we've become so black and white on everything. Yeah. Puff and big, we're definitely talking about hip hop cops.

Did hip hop cops know that Puff was beating people up? Yeah. They didn't do shit. Yeah, it's convenient that it happened this time. Right. But is Puff still a piece of shit? Absolutely. Two things can be true.

Yeah. So that's really what I think I took from that entire thing. Yeah. We've all become hypocrites in our own brains about nonsense. Some things are conspiracies and some things are just, this is what it is. Sometimes Tupac punches the wrong crib. Right. was he also targeted by the FBI?

That was a percent. Right. So, you know, I just thought he put it in the most masterful way of wording what's currently going on. I thought it was great. Especially on Twitter. I thought it was great. I enjoyed it. I watched it twice.

Because, you know, you watch it the first time and you're like, oh, shit, that was dope. Then you got to go watch it again because I might have missed something. But, yeah, it was a masterful, masterful class of just stand-up, storytelling, truth telling that I think only Dave can do in the way that he does it. I think at this point in time it's probably stamped

that he is probably the greatest comedian of all time. I mean, obviously, you know, I grew up on guys like Richard Pryor and, you know, Martin and Eddie Murphy and guys like that who are goats and themselves.

But I don't know if they can do well, they didn't. I don't know if they did, but what Dave has been able to do for longer when it comes to stand-up. A lot of those guys, you know, once they cross over into film Hollywood,

they don't really come back to the stand-up world like that. It's kind of like, you know, leave that alone. I did that. I, you know, I grew from that into, you know, a movie star. Yeah. Some people, you stand-up to get to the sitcom.

Yeah. And then it's, yeah, like, Dave's not a, true. Dave's not a movie star. No. I wouldn't say Dave Chappelle is a movie star. He's, he stood, he stood,

true to being a stand-up comedian. Like, that's what I think his focus is more. He could have just stayed on TV and did more. Yeah, if he wanted to do that, he could have did that. But even that, you know, that's sketch comedy. That's a different type of TV. Chappelle, to me, is a lot like, Naz, as far as the latter parts of their career, where they're already legends and could just go off into the sunset,

open comedy clubs, do this and that, but are still putting out content at a higher clip than some of the younger kids. Yeah. Like I love that Nas keeps. And some of them may not, you know, Magic 3 may not be as good as Kings as East. Like sometimes it won't be the best. Like the dreamer, Chappelle's stand up before this, I liked it.

Yeah. It wasn't like ground. There was moments in it, but it wasn't like groundbreaking to me. Chappelle could have easily had Chappelle show, killing him softly for what it's worth, did sticks and stones and went off in the sunset and Dave Chappelle would still be the greatest comedian ever. He's still, like, even from his deal with Netflix,

In 2017, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, he's put out 12. Right. That's crazy. And some of them, when you do and say complete standups, like the six, like redemption song, this and that, but that's still, to me, a piece. Yeah. That amount of output. Hosting SNL three or four times since that, like, he's nods to me in that regard.

You could just go retire and you'd be the goat, but no one would ever say otherwise. Nobody would question it. Yeah, nobody would question it. I love that they're showing how this, this, how legends, can age and still give us stuff and not be the disappearing act that most legends, rightfully so, are. Yeah, I want to retire. I don't want to, Eddie Murphy, no, I don't want to do anything.

And I get that. You're a legend forever. So that's why I'm like, thank you, Chappelle, that you're still so active at this age already in goat status. Right. So I think that's something to be said as well for both Nause and Dave Chappelle. But yeah, I can't say enough about this special. Baby, then what did you think about it?

Did you see it? I haven't seen it yet, no. All right. Thank you for that, baby, D. Yeah, no problem, you know. I'm going to just checking with you every now. They weren't playing it at code. Yeah. It wasn't playing this at Pagola, baby, D. But actually, I think it's funny.

I was, when I was just scrolling on my computer looking for more stuff on this special, don't call me white girl, Mona, says that she would like to do one of those, a stand-up comedy special. Do you think that she could do that? I think Mona's hilarious. Stand-up stuff. I mean, I would say that for anyone. and stand-up is much more difficult than it looks.

But Mona, I mean, Mona has amazing live shows. Like, I think that's something Mona could do. I think it would take practice like anything else. But Mona is great live performer. She's great on the microphone. She's funny. She has a great perspective. Yeah, I think, I think, again, it would just take time.

Like, I appreciate that, you know, T.I. is putting out a comedy special. But he got booed at the Barclays a few years ago because, like, this isn't that easy. I don't care how amazing of a writer, performer, articulate that TI is. This is a different monster. Standing there with just a microphone and entertaining people is one of the toughest things in the world. Yeah, that's not something to play. Harder than this right here.

Like, when you have to have a perspective, be funny with just a microphone at a bunch of people standing in front of you with a two drink minimum. Yeah, it's tough. I mean, but then, you know, also too, what people got to realize about a lot of this. when you talk about T.I. having his comedy special coming out. He probably had real comedians writing with him and helping him, you know, kind of deliver that. Now, T.I. is a performer. He's a writer. He's a rapper. He's an artist. So he, the stage and the microphone is not foreign to T.I. Now, what he's doing with comedy is, you know, obviously a different thing because you have to keep the audience compelled. It's not music playing behind you. There's not

you know, things like that to kind of fill in those empty pockets. So, I mean, I'm interested to see what T.I does with this comedy, but, you know, you got to know too that he has real comedians helping him. I don't think he's writing all of his material bias. I would be very impressed if he is. I mean, where do you stand? I guess stand up is, like, music is so collaborative, but we also, we always also say, like, when it comes to just straight up raps, we want the person that's rapping to be behind the pen. I think collaborating on anything that's always been different in that space, though. I mean, like the great sad writers, the great, great comedians have it.

I mean, I know Richard Pryor and Paul Mooney had some type of situation. I know there's always been, what's the way in, the oldest way in brother? Kenan. Didn't Keenan write something with Eddie before Raw or something? He's in the credits, I want to say. I know that's been there, but it's been not like confirmed that they were writing for the stand-up. I know some people said, oh, he didn't wrote that sketch that went before it. It wasn't like he was writing for Eddie.

That's always been a thing with stand-up comedy. Like, that has to be your perspective, the same way you look. No, the perspective can be yours. Sketch comedy, screenwriting, movies. All that, of course, is a collaborative process. But I feel like the real stand-up comedians look at it the same way the real rappers do. Like, this can't be a collaborative thing. If we want to do a sketch together, that's fine.

We want to write a movie together. Let's collaborate. But your stand-up should be coming from your perspective and your thoughts. Yeah, but Kev, Kev has the Red Cup boys, right? Is that the plastic Cup boys? Yeah, plastic Cup boys. A lot of them collab and kind of like, the perspective as a comedian can be yours. But if I have funny friends that are comedians as well, they will then help me kind of like curate.

Punch up some stuff. Again, I'm not saying, you know, Kev is any less of a stand-up because he has some of his friends help him out with it. I'm not saying any of that. but typically it's been that way in stand-up comedy the way it has been with real emcees, real hip-hop type of thing. I feel like those two things have married each other. Yeah.

Where you can collaborate on a song, a hook, you can collaborate on a sketch on a movie, but nah, this has to be, this has to be you. The verse has to be you. The stand-up has to be you. Yeah, I mean, but I don't know. I'm sure comedians could teach TI like certain tricks. You're like, oh, that's a good idea. Here's a better way to go about it.

I wouldn't be mad at that. That's just mentorship and everything, which I'm sure every stand-up has had. but I don't want to put writers on him if he hasn't said that. Listen, if this is what T.I. wants to do with his life, more power, too. I think. No, I'm serious. No, I'm not, I'm smiling because I'm smiling for something else. Continue your thought. Yeah, I think it's when people clown people for going into other lanes, like, what's wrong with trying shit? Isn't that the point of like being here?

I'm not. If this is something T.I. is passionate about. I'm like, yeah, you know what? I want to go try that shit. I give him props. It's just so funny because. I give props to Jake Paul for getting in a ring with a monster. Yeah. I think it's so funny because T.I. Seems like such a serious person.

So to see him switch, I mean, granted, like I've kept up with him his personal life and things like that because of his show. He had a very good reality TV show with his family. But he just seems to be such a serious person. So to switch and do like stand-up comedy is like it's just such a totally different lane. So I can understand why people wouldn't take him serious, but he just got to prove him wrong. Yeah. That's just tough though. Because if I go to the comedy club, I'd be like, that's TI.

Yeah. Even if he's saying something funny and, like, is doing a great bit, I'm not going to get past. That's TI. That's Rubba Band, man. That's the hardest part for TI, I think, through this whole thing, is people being able to differentiate between T.I. The rapper, the artist, and T.I. the comedian. Because no matter what, I'm looking at T.I. on stage. Yeah.

So it's like if I go. But he did great with acting. I never felt any time he's acted that like, oh, that's the T.I. Which with some actors, I've felt that way. Like, I'm not watching this character. I'm watching. Yeah, like, you know how hard it would be to go to a show and Jeezy come out and start telling jokes? Jeezy, if you don't.

T.I. is funny. But it's like, geez, if you don't turn that, that TM 101 on and get to these, but fuck this comedy shit. Like, it's hard for those guys to transition into something. It's fucked up. But that's a real thing. It's hard to get people to love you. for something polar opposite of what they already love you for.

They love you for rapping and certain bars and that street shit and then you come out here and the barclays on stage in Brooklyn cracking jokes. And I might want to hear that shit, man.

That is tough. I'm sure Tiah does respect though because he is such a great rapper and knows what it takes to do that as far as pockets, cadences, words, sculpting a verse. That's the same with stand-up.

As far as pockets. as far as timing, as far as how we just watch Chappelle, how everything ties back together. There's an art to it. So I'm sure he understands that because he's a rapper. I just don't know if that's going to show up. It's different, man. It's different with stand-up.

You don't have that music. You don't have that energy. You know what I'm saying? Of the music behind you to support what you're saying. Stand-up, you know, you write a bar and you get to the punch line, and you're like, that's hard when you say it with a beat. You get to stand-up and you got a joke and you laying it out you get to the punch

and it don't punch like you thought bro you got a long night see because you can say a whack you can have a whack bar on your verse Rory but when the hook coming to hook is money

and the beat is hard it's all good everybody's still dancing and you know what the energy is still up as a comedian you say some shit and that punch line

don't hit like you thought in the dressing room you still got 15, 20,000 people sitting out there looking at you they two Hennessy's in they're like all right Tia go ahead and you don't know

turn to me music going, nigga, get back to what you do. Shut up and dribble. It turned into that quick. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I'm excited to see, you know, T.I. kind of get into this and now he got his first special.

I think it's dope that he's even at a point where he could do his first comedy. That would be a funny bit, though, what you actually just said. Like, anytime T.I. starts the bomb, the DJ just puts on one of his records and just get the crowd back in. Yeah. As I was saying. Like I was saying before. Yeah.

Because that's what they love you for. That's what they know you for. That's what you've built your platform on, music. You know, and again, we love trying things. We love to see people trying different things and being passionate about doing other things. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, when you're talking about stand-up comedy,

stand-up comedy to me is kind of like boxing. You can't just play around with that. No, I agree. You got to go through the ringer. Like, you just started doing comedy when? And we've been going to the comedy club since we were 17, 18, going on stage bombing, getting booed. all of that.

And now with like a Dave Chappelle where he's at in his career, that didn't just happen overnight for Dave Chappelle. Well, that's the funny thing about stand-up. If you look at all the greats, it's not like music where typically the person who's in their 20s, they're younger when they make it. Yeah, they're older. Most of our favorite legendary comedians made it post-35 years old.

Right. Something made it at 40. Right. Shit, Kevhart, seriously funny, was like, I don't know, third or force, but he had been working for 15 years. I think he was 35 when that came up. Yeah.

It's not easy, but. Bill Berman made him when he was old, Like they grinded for 20 years before and then they made it when they got older. That's because it takes that long to get that good at that type of shit. Louis C.K. was oldest shit when he made it. Yeah. Comedy is something. It's funny,

but it ain't funny if you ain't funny. It's funny. But it ain't funny if you ain't funny. You could also be a funny. You could be the most hilarious person on earth and that doesn't matter with stand-up. Yeah. Stand-up is a art. You could be funny. I think we're all very funny.

And I also think we would all suck at stand-up. I had a friend who was like, all of us would take up years and years in years to get good at it. I had a friend who was like super funny on the block. You know, you know that one friend with like this nigga. And we all told me, yo, bro, you need to get in the comedy. He was like, we're hurting.

Like, yo, bro, like, you, every time we out somewhere, you got the, you got the mic. You're the funniest dude in the room. Like, you need to do something with that. Man, I ain't going to lie. He did, what was it, BBQs in the Bronx? He's do comedy night. Yeah, of course. A nigga, we all went out to support the homie.

It's a different world, man. He went up there, niggas that ain't never known was in the, crowd never seen this nigga before they got it there that niggins start getting into his bit i say yeah now maybe he not as funny as i thought he was man yeah you start drowning and just look in the crowd like y'all in a date yeah yeah that shit got that shit got your birthday all you heard was like niggas like collecting plates and shit in the back i'm like yeah i see it's time to go ahead and get out of it don't never do that again i was watching a p davis in interview when he was talking about when he started at a bowling alley in statin island he was like it

suck because every time you'd bum, you would just hear like bowling pins. It would just be dead quiet. No one laughed at me. You just hear people bowling behind you. It's tough, man. I mean, that's part of the game, though. Which is crazy too, though, because like usually you can realize when your music career is not going to make it, if you're trying to be a certain type of star, when an age hits.

Like not everyone's Victoria Monet where you can write and then hit your stardom a little bit later in your career. Sometimes, not sometimes. When you pass 28, it might be a dub for you. Stand up, you're going to have that hope. Like, now all my favorites made it at 40, it'll happen for me. Then you hit 40 and you ain't making it. It's tough.

Now you're 40. Yeah, it's tough. No, it's just a risky career. Not everyone's TI that can just play the King album after. What's the name of TI special? Cheaper than therapy. We'll say TIs is taking a risk, though. First of all, you're coming out in all leather.

That's Eddie. You're setting yourself up. You can't do what Eddie do. Yeah, you can't. And it's the red. in black leather? You gotta know that my hour is hitting when you throw the leather on. It's like laying down on your

album cover. Like you gotta know this is undeniably going to be fucking amazing. You can't mess. You can't mess. You can't mess with the leather. You can't mess with the powers of the comedians with the greats, man. You can't wear the red leather. And I know stand-up comedians that did 10 years before they ever dropped a special. Yeah. A special is hard to do, let alone just stand-up. You coming out the gate with a special. Like,

at least hit a funny bone or a fucking improv. And not only that. A special. He's dropping it New Year's Eve. I mean, Christmas Eve. More. Tia, I'm rude for you. I'm rude for you, but that's tough.

I went to bed knowing there was a surprise Chappelle special and said I'll get around to it. You think I'm stopping what I'm doing on Christmas Eve to go see Tia. I'm going to end up watching. I'm not here to hate it. Yeah, we got to watch it. But Christmas Eve? Yeah, I don't know about Christmas. I might not watch it until after the New Year.

Everyone's going to be home, but like, that's what when the family shows up, like, you all want to throw on the. I don't know if I'm listening to a new T.I. I don't know if I'm doing anything on Christmas Eve. I'm going to check it out, though. We're going to support T.I., man. Cheaping than therapy, Christmas Eve. Yeah.

We have to see. He got the red leather on. So it's like, all right, you're waking, you're fucking with them, them comic powers. You know the red, that's like the Batman suit. So, all right, we got to see what T.I. do. Yeah. Before we get off music and entertainment,

did you guys listen to, what's her name? Zana Monet, Xana, Mone, the AI artist. You know, she was catching some heat from J.D., Waleigh, K. Lonnie. So she got in the booth. Lay down a very heartfelt this record of how she got it out the mud. This shit felt like, you know when they're doing the American Idol, like, auditions, and then they, like, cut to their life story. And, like, you know, their mother has terminal cancer.

Their dad lost two legs in Vietnam. you know, they live under a bridge. This is how this AI artist was sounding. Like, the world has literally just been on her shoulders with all this hate. Like, she was talking from, like, Michael Jackson's perspective as far as being the enemy. Is this something we have to talk about? No, Ma, we don't have to talk about this. I mean, it is fuck this AI shit for sure.

I just laughed that the AI artist started her diss off with you went to the media first. Is that supposed to go by hard drive? You're not a person. You talk like a hard drive. I cannot believe you went to me. Like Kailani and fucking party next door. Like that's how she was talking. How could you go to the media for?

You don't exist. Yeah, but you said that somebody wrote it though, right? Somebody actually wrote these lyrics? I guess. Which is still like because of AI voice, but either way. I'm just never like this AI shit is stupid than me. Like AI artists. Like I don't even know how to even begin to have that conversation.

You don't have a real name. Yeah. But that, I mean, one of my friends hit me because I've told her about, you know, the dangers of AI and things like that. And she listens to this podcast. But she was like, yo, I'm not going to lie. I came across an R&B album on TikTok and I went in like, whoa, an R&B song on TikTok. She said I went and listened to the rest of the album. She was like, DeMaris, that shit is one of the best albums I ever heard.

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who's going to be the first AI artists who denounce the streets? Like, which AI artist is going to put the flag down and get out the gang? Who's going to denounce the crypts? Are the AI artists? Are there AI artists in the streets, though? I'm sure.

Coming from the streets? Yeah, I don't know. They're committing AI like sins-type murdered. On Fortnite. How do you feel about that? though. Fuck the streets. 21 Savage. Give full context.

Well, 21 Savage, he did a, he had posted some tweets. Yes. Calling for everybody specifically in Atlanta that was beefing. That wasn't really friends and fell out. Calling for everybody to make amends to get back together. You know, bury the hatchet, you know, all of that type of thing. You know, the brotherly love, the things that we champion. We champion people, you know, putting their differences aside and coming to

together for the better good of the culture, I guess. But in some of his tweets, the message was fuck the streets. Well, Steve, some of them have to do with the streets more so, like, offset, Cuevo, you guys should just, you know, be friends again. But then you got into the Gunner, Thug thing, got into the P thing, P from QC.

Yep. That did feel like, yes, goalpost should be moved, and we should say fuck the streets. That is how it came across. So he never actually said fuck the streets? I feel like he said, I feel like, Oh, it eventually got there, okay.

Yeah, like it got to that, right? Yeah, like, fuck the street. So now, you know, I understand what 21 was doing as far as like, you know, wanting people from the city that were actually friends and brothers at one point to bury their differences and, you know, come back together and things like that. But I just think the, the phrase, the wording was wrong, right?

The wording, fuck the streets. You can't say, fuck the streets. You can't say fuck the streets because the streets are what gave you and awarded you everything you have right now. And again, I'm asking as a civilian, is someone allowed to even dictate the rules that have been set there well before they were even born? No. I didn't know somebody could change the rules. No, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't say fuck the streets. And here's, okay.

No, a lot of people say, shit, I'll even put a name on it. Troyab was one of those people that said all the street shit and then it's fuck the streets when you get caught. When the streets don't work out for you anymore, now it's fucked the streets.

It was all this talk before, but once you get caught, now it's fuck the streets. If you never got caught, it'd still be the same shit, right? Right. For some, yes. A lot of people that do cooperate,

you cooperate because you got caught and didn't want to go to jail and now you're saying it's like, no, I don't like that lifestyle is detrimental to the community. Yeah, while you're right, you'd still be doing it if you didn't get caught.

Don't act like this moral high ground that now you have, you're above this and it's wrong. No, it's wrong because you got caught. Yeah. That's all it is. Well, that's what I was going to say. And I'm not saying that's what 21 is saying in this regard. But I've seen a lot of people start saying fuck the streets after they got caught. It's a very convenient time.

Some people really want to change their lives. Yeah, some people. Some people really do believe, hey, this is really ruining our community. And they would have a pretty good case about how it can. But you don't really care. You just got caught. Yeah. You can't scream fuck the streets and still be in the streets.

If it's going to be fuck the streets, y'all niggas can't hang out of strip clubs no more. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. And again, I don't know. I'm not speaking as someone that knows anything about the street. The strip club is the street club is. The fucking library at Columbia?

No. That's the streets. You know what goes on in the strip club? There's street people at the strip club. Yes, there's street people everywhere. But there's also civilians like me and Demaris that go there and have a good time home. And we go more often than the regular people. Like that all.

Y'all are not saying fuck the streets. I'm not in the streets are you saying fuck the streets no I'm not in the streets have you ever said fuck the streets no so you can go to the strip club okay if you're gonna say fuck the streets you can't be hanging out of the street club

doing that you can't do that not if you scream you fuck the streets the strip clubs is part of the streets I don't know if y'all know that or not no I think there's street people in street people like the strip clubs but the strip clubs don't have nothing to do with that you said the strip club

don't do with the streets no what I'm saying is the strip club is not If it wasn't for the streets, the strip clubs wouldn't be a thing. Who do you think is spending money in the strip clubs? You can you say that about a lot of shit? If you say fuck the streets, can you buy weed? That's also not true. There's plenty of strip clubs that a street nigger wouldn't even walk into.

That's not a strip club. That's a gentleman's club. Can I jay walk? Can I go right on red? It's a gentleman's club. You got to tuck your shirt in when you go on those places. That's different. You're not talking about hustlers on the west side hub.

No. You can go there. That's controlled by the streets on an Italian side, allegedly. So like, that's still. Yeah, but they're not screaming fuck the streets, though. Until they get a YouTube show after they rat. That's different. You cannot scream fuck the streets and still be hanging out in the streets.

You cannot do it. You can't be rapping about the streets. That I agree. You can't be hanging out on the old streets on the block. You can't go and give out turkeys once a year. Oh, that's corny. No, that's something. It is corny to give out turkeys once a year.

I agree with you. That's very corny. No, I don't know. Let me clarify what I'm saying. you can still give back to your community and go and visit your community. When you know what these... If it's fuck the streets?

You know what these people are saying when they're saying fuck the streets. You know what they're saying. So it's not fuck the streets. It's fuck the street codes. Fuck the street ideologies. When you say fuck the streets, that's saying fuck those blocks.

Fuck those avenues. Fuck those corners where y'all get money. Fuck all of that. Fuck the people that are still out there doing what they're doing. All right. So then you can't come here no more because you know what they're still out there doing. So you can't come here and try to mingle

and pick and choose when you want to be in the streets because all that giving back shit that's just for public image So you can't want to get your public image And make it seem like you giving back to the streets When it's fuck the streets How is that just for? I'm sure some people There's a lot of public image

But some people actually give in about where they're from Why are we sitting there acting like it's not But let's not act like there aren't some rappers You give a frozen turkish to niggas that ain't got nowhere to go cook it What are we talking about here? That's it for a look That's a tax write off That shit is a look

We're not gonna sit there and play these games And that's my point You can't play both sides of this It can't be fuck the streets But then I hope the streets I want the streets I want the streets To still fuck with me

I want to go back And get back to the hood Because I want the hood to say Yeah nah He came through and gave us turkeys And all that So you're saying people can What?

People can retire from the streets Ie let's use some of our favorite rappers Let's go with a J and a Nas Both people rap about the streets but have clearly retired from that. Like they're not in the streets. Right. So you're saying...

Jay would never say fuck the streets. He did say streets is done. Because of what? Y'all killed... Who was it? And now Zimmerman. Streets is done. Y'all killed X?

X, that's what it was. And let Zimmerman live. Streets is that. He's not saying fuck the streets. But I know what he's saying. He ain't saying fuck the streets. No, he's not. Yeah.

They just ain't doing what they was doing in the streets before. I know. I just wanted to be clear with your point for our listening. Yeah, no. I'm being very clear. Because there's plenty of people that are in the streets that rap about the streets.

Yeah, but you can't say fuck the streets and still try to benefit off a street culture. You can't. That can't happen. It can't be fucked the streets because, yo, your man was a rat. We knew he was a rat and we still fucked with him. And then now y'all caught another case and y'all fell out and y'all not friends no more. Yo, fuck the streets. What?

That ain't how that go. That don't go like that. If it's fucked the streets. All right, cool. It's fucked the streets. Now, I think what they meant to say was, yo, we got to move past. those ideologies. We got to move past that energy.

We got to move past like, you know, that type of shit. Now, I agree with that at a certain point. You should be trying to elevate and get past that lifestyle. That's what this is about. It's about elevating and getting better and becoming a better person. But when you say fuck the streets, you got to remember, the streets gave you everything that you have. Okay, but do you think for- The streets did not give him what he has?

Who? He did not. You can make it out of the streets, which is something that's going against you. The streets don't give you anything. He didn't get his career from the streets. He created his career because he's a creative person. He might have drawn inspiration from his life that he had, but we're not about to sit up here and act like the streets is like the winning cold

to becoming a fucking successful or having money and having a family. That's some shit you got to fight through. You're talking about rappers? Yes, that's something you have to. You still have to fight through. You have to survive. You got to fuck with you in the streets before they fuck with you anywhere. Who are you talking about?

You ain't going to find none of these niggas that's going to just got successful overnight and the streets didn't fuck with them and the streets didn't support them. You go to all of their shows. Who's still in the building? Okay, so you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. So let me clarify. Yes, obviously the streets have to fuck with you.

But the streets did not give him anything. You crazy as hell. You sound insane. No, you sound insane. You cannot say the streets didn't give these rappers nothing. What are you talking about? What are you saying give? They earned.

They supported them. They gave them money. They gave them love. They gave them support. They pulled them. on they told the rest of the world these is them niggas they speak it for us this is our stories you're taking it as if he's saying fuck the people in the streets and not fuck you literally know that he's talking about fuck these codes fuck this bullshit fuck all this shit that nigg is beyond

that's what i just said no i said you can't say fuck the streets and still try to benefit and eat off of the streets but sure i'm making it seem like he's saying fuck the people in the streets he's not saying fuck the people in the streets i'm not saying he's saying fuck the people in the streets So when you're saying the streets gave him everything that he gave. The street supported him. The people from the streets supported him. That's this difference. It's a completely different thing.

Well, you can't have the streets without the people, baby, Dee. Will the avenue still be there? Yes. If there's nobody lives on that street, the street will still be there. The people are what make it the streets. The energy. The culture is what make it the streets. No, but the streets that he's talking about, the people is not what makes it the streets.

Shit that has been happening to us for years and I hate to go. super woke, but the type of shit that we've been fighting through, and the type of shit that we've been fighting through is the reason why streets and ghettos exist. Are you seeing, are you understanding what I'm coming from? The reason that we're in these predicaments and there's so much poverty and there's so much violence is shit that has been happening for years. So when niggas is saying fuck the streets, it's talking about the results of that. Black people in our culture is not the streets. Black people in our culture, we'll persevere through anything. But the streets and the things that come from the streets because of what we've been put in between redlining all slavery all

types of shit that's the that's what comes it's as simple as this fuck the streets mean fuck that mindset that we've been taught from so young so if you can understand that's grow past that mindset so that's what I'm saying I understand what he's saying I just think the wording was wrong I just think the wording was wrong that's all because I get it yeah like that mindset I tell you all the Tom, Rory, like growing up, I grew up in the middle of the hood. Niggas that lived in my building, some of the things are doing triple life, never coming home. Some of these niggas are CEOs of companies. Great.

We all from the same block, same area. We all had the same obstacles. We had to, you know, jump over and get around. We all had the same dangers that we faced just getting up and going to school and coming home from school, going to the store. So we understand it, but it starts in the home. What's the mindset? What are you being taught?

What are you being fed? Do you have discernment? Are you a leader? Are you a follower? Are you going to follow your crew down this wrong path when you know they're going to do dumb shit when in your household? You know you're being taught that that's wrong. So you got it's, yes, we're from the streets. We're from that. We know what it's about. But now do I choose to be a part of that. Do I choose to adapt that ideology and that street mentality? That's the difference. So when it's fuck the streets. It's no, fuck that mentality. Fuck that street mentality. You know what I'm saying? Because I get it. I understand. what you're saying, fuck that street mentality. If you're going to get into the streets and me doing street shit and then like you said, you get caught, you can't scream fuck the streets at that point. Has 21 Savage been caught

doing anything? No, no, no, no, no. He's saying, again, 21 is receiving a flag, but it's more so like so what he said. He reached out of thought, he said, y'all niggas fixed that shit. Y'all love each other, nigga, y'all. You knew Gunner wasn't no gangster when he told the first time and we swept it under the rug for you.

You know he wasn't trying to leave you to hang, nigga. Fuck the streets. We ain't get shit but trauma from that shit. So I get it. The streets. You don't lost friends to the streets. You don't lost family members to the streets. You don't lost, you know, all kind of things.

But at the same time, streets supported you. You know what I'm saying? Streets told the world you was hot, you was dope. When nobody else knew who you were. Streets bought your mixtape. Streets showed up to your first show at the local club, at the local strip club. Like, the streets supported you.

The streets gave you that beginning. The streets gave you that story. The streets gave you that, you know, the aura. But now that we're all successful and we have money and things like that, we need to come out of that mentality and do something else. And I think that's the message. Like, we can't stay in that mentality. We can't stay in quote unquote survival mode because we're not trying to survive no more. We've all been able to create a better life for ourselves.

We all live in nice homes. We drive nice cars. We travel the world. So yeah, let's get away from that mentality. Let's move out of that. Fuck that mentality that we've been taught. Let's elevate. Let's grow.

But at the same time, you've got to be careful with saying fuck the streets because, again, you're going to get people that are still there that's still of that. That's going to look at you like, yo, what you mean? Because had it not been for that, your whole persona is not even a thing no more. And I think where some people got offended by it is because to Mall's point you got everything

from the streets put you on you can't now move the goalpost and change the rules when it's convenient to you because that's offensive

to the people that are in the streets living by those rules right like they're still there living by those rules and now you're saying we're allowed

to move the goalpost to get ahead but to me I see both sides of that because to his tweet to P did more for Atlanta

than any politician anyone could fucking do P is a legend in that city and has made multi, multi, multi, multi millionaires out of so many fucking people. Is there some street shit in there

that I don't know about some Atlanta politics that I wouldn't even comment on? Sure. So I think some people are like, wait, now we can move to go post? I didn't know we were allowed to do that. Right.

And again, this is me outside looking in from the tweets and seeing people's reaction to it's like, nah, y'all are right. We should not have to go by that code because it's better for everyone as a community and our families. But it's like, now now we're doing that.

You can't, but you can't. You can't learn, bro. They're probably from, from a lot of their circles that are doing football numbers that are going like, wait, we was a lot. We could say fuck the streets now? And not only that. No, you all, no, but this is the thing. You always could.

Because, but that's, you always, but this is the thing. You always could. But it takes a lot of courage and it takes a lot of strength. And it takes a lot of support. And it takes a lot of support from people that you have in your corner to be able to say, fuck the streets. So yeah, I'm champion this shit because at the end of the day, I think it's nice for these people that these kids that are coming up and making their decisions, whether they're going to go left

or whether they're going to go right to look and see their favorite rappers who have been upholding this street shit for so long to say, yo, this shit actually did nothing but fuck us up. If I could have did it differently, I fucking would. You know what I likened this to, baby, Dee? I liken this to Black Lives Matter. Let me land it. When they were saying Black Lives Matter, right? I said, I agree.

Josh just like this. Hold on. I said, I said, I agree. Black lives do matter, right? But I also move like Black Lives Matter. I don't disrespect people that look like me. I don't hurt people that look like me. I don't bring harm and things like that are people that look like me, right?

The slogan, yes. So fuck the streets, cool. Growing up in the streets, guess what? I went to private school. I wore a uniform every day. I got joking. on my block. My niggas was on the corner doing what they was doing. You know, I'm outside with a shirt and tie some slacks on getting laughed at. But that's because I didn't want to be a part of

that. Yeah. My family wasn't having it. My mom's wasn't having that. Nigel, you're not about to be here in the streets doing what you want to do, making those decisions. You're not doing that. I didn't scream fuck the streets, though. I just moved like, fuck the streets. I'm not a part of it. I'm not doing that. Now, to what 21 is saying, his tweet is a little crazy because He's saying you knew Gunner wasn't no gangster. And we knew that he did bad the first time. And we forgave when we looked past it. So my thing is like, okay, so then why y'all lied to us then?

Why y'all lied to the streets and made it seem like he didn't do bad and he didn't do that? If y'all all knew that and still try to portray it like it was, you know, it was gang gang and it was holding it down and we're the realist and all that. But then you're saying we knew he wasn't no gangster. So then why portray that? to eat off of that to eat off for that aura to eat off of that street energy if you knew he wasn't of that

and now that y'all are not speaking because it's public now we don't see we seen gunna do bad and turn on gang ganging them we saw it you can't it's no hiding no more we actually saw it so now that y'all not friends it's yo fuck the streets it's like

yeah but you can't do it like that gunna I'm not mad at this nigga running 5Ks in Central Park this nigga don't went completely Gunna ain't even say fuck the streets. He just started moving like fuck the street. He just started jogging on them. I'm getting healthy.

I'm drinking green juices every morning. You know what I'm saying? I'm getting facials. I'm doing all of the things that say I'm not a part of that anymore. But he's still not going to say fuck the streets because again, the streets gave him his start. It gave him his or. It gave him his beginning. That's his origin.

The streets. Now, if you're saying I don't choose that lifestyle no more, I don't want to be a part of that. I don't want that energy. Listen, I salute that. It's different versions of fuck the streets. Your brother and Jay said, fuck the streets. We want to go be businessmen. They want to go be businessmen.

But they never said, yo, fuck the streets. Streets is done. Streets is a myth. This, that and the third. Because you go through things, you realize, wait, I'm the only nigga holding it down. I'm the only one that's a bottom by the rules. Y'all's told me from a little kid was in place.

I can't do this. Don't tell on your friends. Don't do the do. And then you become older and you go through these situations. And you realize, shit almost everybody telling everyone everybody is not going by these rules so why am i going by these which i think is what uh 21 was really saying like them rules is that's bullshit no niggas don't even abide by that nobody lives by that anymore type yeah that's what i really think 21 was

saying like yo you know niggas don't because we look past it we knew he wasn't no gangst we already we're living by we already wasn't living by that and that's my point it's like okay but say y'all was doing it because you You know whom all know? I know niggas that staying on that street shit. I know niggas that really is in the streets for real and they abiding by all codes. We ain't telling shit. We all take 25 of life before we tell on each other.

I know people that's really doing that. They're not saying fuck the streets because they really in the streets. They're really doing that. When you're doing this double-dipping thing, when you just want the aura and you want the dope boy shit on, the kid and all that, the whips, jewelry and the girls and all that, when you want all of that, it's cool. but when it's time to go sit down and do 15 and you don't want to do that is fuck the street that's where the lines get blurred

I think to DeMaris because I agree with everything you said to DeMaris's point all 21 Savage's tweet 2P look at the benefit when we did look the other way in the overall long term if you're looking at the bigger circle and perspective here what DeMaris is saying is like yeah look those rules have gotten

everyone fucked up look what happens when you do say fuck that code. You do turn the other way. Now you have 10 multi-millionaires that are supporting their families. Yeah? Based off some rules that no one else is even playing by. Right.

No one's playing by it. So yeah, we should turn our back because then we also get Gunna, who I'm sure has supported hundreds and hundreds of people in Atlanta financially. Yeah. Gave people jobs. So I really see what Demeris is saying.

And 21 did go on to say, I'm supposed to say save the streets we have to save the streets we got to get all the bullshit all the crazy kill the shit out out there and put love in the hustle back in the shit

I mean that's cool I fuck with 21 that's cool but we also know that's a result of backlash from saying fuck the streets right

but I understand when I first heard him say that I'm like okay I know what he mean he's gonna get killed for saying fuck the streets yeah I know what he meant though it's so crazy the shit black people kill each other

for saying like look what you look what you then at the end of the day it does need to be fuck the streets because y'all not getting shit out of it you know what i'm saying like he said put the love and the hustle in here because sometimes you got a hustle to get where you got to go and there's violence that comes with it and things like that but all this gang gang gang gang gang shit being loyal to each other but killing people that look like you all that shit it does need to end it i don't give a fuck how long it's been going on baby d but here's the crazier part about it

it's so many people that don't be ever a part of the shit that are very successful from the same neighborhoods yes so all of this shit is like i get it say it the streets, right? Cool. I'm for that. Save the street, save the kids that's in the street, the families that are struggling, we need to support each other. I'm with all of that. But from the beginning of the time when it was streets and there was street culture and all that, there was people in them same neighborhoods that didn't have nothing to do with that. That was getting up going to school, getting up going to work every morning, getting up trying to, you know, whatever they had to do to God without getting involved in hustling and, you know,

all of that shit. They didn't do none of that. Yeah, but some people got to, first of all, we know why, first, going back to why the streets even exist, some people got to do what they got to do to provide for their family. Some things is going homeless. Everybody got to do what they got to do to provide for their family. Some people don't have parents in the home making sure they eat, making sure they go to sleep, making sure they go to school. For sure.

Some people got to do what the fuck they got to do. For sure. Which is fine, right? That is what it is. But with rap, it's become a thing where they're glorifying that life. This is not glorifying. Trying to get yourself out of poverty should not be glorified. Now you're going into a whole other part of the conversation and discussion.

All right. Now that's a whole different. That's a whole different tier we're talking about when we start talking about hip hop culture and what it glorifies. And what it, you know, what it magnifies and things like that. That's a whole other discussion. Because if we're going to say fuck the streets, it's like, all right now, hip hop cultures of the streets. hip hop is of the streets it started in a park two turntables in the speaker

yeah but that but it was the voice of it was the voice of the people in the ghetto about party and it originally started about partying and dancing it was not about violence and guns and drugs it was no it was always violent in it because we in the ghetto we and that's violence was always a part of society but we didn't glorify that and also who do you think was fun and all that oh yeah that's what i said it's a whole how much time we got, Pete, because it's a whole other, it's a whole other conversation. It's a whole other conversation. It wasn't a universal music group. I'll tell you that. So I love it, but at the same time, if it's, listen, if it's fuck the streets, niggas 069 an apology.

069 made a comment. Niggas old Charleston White a lot of apologies. If we hear, if we hear, if we at fuck the street, because this is all Charleston White and talk about. When he got on there and was like, fuck Nipsey and all that, niggas, Oh, he bugging. He's like, yeah, but what's the difference when you niggas are saying we smoking on that tucca pack? Right in front of his mother.

You just killed her son and y'all saying, yeah, we're smoking. What's the difference if I say fuck Nipsey and y'all over here screaming, yo, we're smoking that tucca pack. It ain't no black. If it's going to be fucked the streets, if it's going to be saved the streets, then let it be saved the streets. But we can't div and dab when it's time for album time and we back in the hood. And we back looking for the support of the. the people if it's fuck the streets. We can't be on our albums

and these songs talking about 17, 5, and this, that, and the third. And we can't, if it's fuck the streets, don't glorify none of the street shit. Don't use that street shit to get your aura and all. Don't do none of that. If it's going to be fucked the streets, you niggas better start sounding like

Will Smith. You niggas better be in your rap sounding like Chance the rapper. That's all I'm saying. Because the Because there's a lot of successful people out here that's not rapping the street shit that's not doing that. You know what I'm saying? They got some success, made a lot of money. Jay Cole.

Jay Cole. I mean, Kendrick to a degree, right? I mean, the big three is not street rappers. We can name a few very successful. I don't know if all of y'all are as talented to do that. But I'm just saying if it's going to be fuck the streets and save the streets, which I agree with, save the streets. I'm down with it. I'm with that.

but at the same time when it's time to sell us something and it's time to do that I don't want to see none of y'all that was saying that jumping back on the block and taking kissing babies and turkeys and cans and now I don't want to see none of that because all of that is

for public shit. Don't bring, if you're going to give out of turkey don't bring no cameras. Hey. If you're going to get back and build the community, don't bring no cameras. Just do it because there's a lot of people that give back to the hood and the communities and you will never hear about it. Thanks. So let's not do it for show. We're going to do it. Let's just do it. That's all I'm saying. So I'm with Save the Streets. I echo that

21. Let's save the streets. Let's teach these kids another way. Let's stop putting this bullshit rhetoric in their head and making them feel like this is what you got to do to be successful because there's so many other ways. Let's start teaching these. Who the next one to build, what's in, Devidia? Teach one of these little niggas how to make the next, what is it, Peach, the next, the next video box. Teach one of these little niggas how to do that. Let's make that cool. I'm with you. Let's teach the next little kid in the process. projects how to make the next Tesla. Yeah. Let's make that cool.

I mean, that's what Nipsey was actually trying to do. So I'm with that. You know what I'm saying? But fuck the streets, save the streets. Cool. But you can't use the streets when it's convenient. That's all. That's my point. Sorry, baby, dear, I mean, because I know you got a headache and you hug over. I ain't mean to even get your blood pressure. And no, it woke her blood pressure. That was her adville and water and greasy food. Her blood pressure is what I'm saying. I don't want her blood pressure to rise. Sorry about that, baby, that would be the tequila and champagne. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, this will be a perfect point to maybe put a better help ad or something. We need to check on the greatest quarterback of all times, mental health. Drake May? No, no, he's ball enough. Oh, bad. Patriots look really funny. Patriots look great.

No, we have to check on the goat, man. We were looking at him for seven rings, but what happens to our strong friend? He checked on us. He checked on the strong friend, right? We got to make sure that the goat is doing okay. Yeah. Giselle, the lovely Giselle, who was Tom Brady's ex-wife,

got married this week, which Tom Brady posted on his IG story, a half selfie, just showing the chin in a hoodie saying Forever Young. And out of all the songs, he could have picked Forever Young as a song. No, I don't think he, I think that, I think it was a video he posted.

Okay. Oh, it's a screenshot. Sorry, yes. But the song he chose for some reason for that hoodie was the lodge. the Logic Suicide Helpline song. That's what Tommy

he listened to on his free time. Shout out the logic. Listen, I know his streams went up this week. 100%. I know his stream spiked.

And then you got to think that song was old. Like, did the number change? Numbers change all the time. Yeah. Is that still in service? Is that still in service? Is it still in service?

What's the number? I'm gonna call right now to see if we're still in service. Oh my God. I just want to see. What? 1,800. Yeah, but

all right, but if this hotline is, used the same way like 911 is if you call they answer and you hang up and they have your location like is the social worker about to come here you didn't memorize it from the logic hook you've reached the 988 suicide oh sorry still in service shout out to logic and tom brady and anyone that is dealing with that please please call if you were a veteran or service member or are calling about one press one don't don't press a button please i was just seeing what you know this is why better help won't have you i was just seeing what the options were like that's all

Good and you also just could just call 9-88 now. That is what. Oh, that's it? Yeah. I'm about saying if I'm thinking about coming to suicide and I'm like, I'm not sure, that number would be kind of hard to remember. Yeah, trying to figure out the numbers with the letters. That would be about 13th reason.

Yeah. I'm not. Yeah. Figuring out the letters to the numbers, I'm not doing any day, let alone a suicidal day. But with that said, man, we think, is that just a coincidence, Tom? you know, holidays can get rough for people. Maybe Tom was just putting that out there for his fans. Like, yo, if you're feeling this way, holidays can be tough for people.

Yeah. It just so happened to be the same day that his ex-wife. What a coinky thing. Forever Young on the hoodie, you know. Logic, suicide prevention, so I'm playing in the back. Or is he trying to show like, I'm forever. Like, y'all still doing that, like, that marriage shit? I'm not fucking these hoax forever young.

I'm not taking this like Tom is calling out for help better. think Tom is happy. I don't think Tom is happy at all. Shit. Why else would you put that song? Why would you put that song? Cracking jokes. Just being funny.

That's a wild joke as Tom Brady. Just being funny. I mean, I don't know Tom personally, but listen, he seems like he has a cool personality. You know what I mean? He might be just having fun with it. Like, I know everybody thinks that I'm, you know, so upset today because my ex-wife got married again and my world must be upside down. Oh, I'm thinking about committing suicide.

What am I going to do? am I going to kill myself? Like, I could see Tom just leaning into that. I also don't feel like Tom cares that much because he, instead of saving his marriage, he literally went back to the Tampa Bay Bucks to go eight and nine. Like, if y'all think Tom Brady don't retire and he went back just to go eight and nine.

If y'all think Tom Brady don't miss his family. No, no, no, no. He sees his kids. He's with his kids all the time, literally all the time. Not his kids, his family. He don't miss. He probably don't miss being married to Giselle. They probably still cool.

him and giselle like it happens that way we're not married no more we have a family we have kids our kids are probably you know they don't i don't think they have little kids they're probably at least all in high school maybe at least um they're not babies yeah like i don't i think thomas this is his second his second win he's retired now he's doing sideline work for fox is it fox he's a part of they gave him a crazy bag to do that i don't think tom brady is i think i think they i think josell is happy i think tom is happy the family is taking care of everybody's good. This is just for people like us who want to sit back and speculate and just think that

Tom Brady is emotionally distraught, that his ex-wife is now married again. I don't think you do this when you're cool with your ex-wife because all this did was draw attention to you when it's not about you. It's going to always her getting married again, draw it. He could post taking a shit and everyone's still going to pay attention to Tom Brady. The fact that she got married again is going to bring attention to Tom Brady. We're not talking about like just some random chick. Okay.

Okay, but okay, yes. But this is, would we have been talking about Giselle getting married if he didn't post this show? Or is this the classic, uh, suck of shit when guys say I'll kill myself if you leave me? Is he trying to get that line off? No, because she left her ready.

She's just married again. Nah, but you went to, there's still hope if you don't go to the altar. Yeah. Shit. Now it's legally like, if you know, like I know, it's more hope after she lead the altar.

She got what she want and she can still come and get, you know what I mean? She still want to come see me on the week. She can still come see me too. Oh, please. That's her ex-us. That's Tom Brady. That's her child.

That's her ex-al. Hold on. Hey, man. Well, we're not doing that, bro. We're not doing that. Giselle ain't just some bitch. All right. Any woman that would be next to him.

I love what, I love with Damaris. She thinks she's saying something. I love what she do this. Do you think it's easier for Giselle to find another Tom Brady or for Tom Brady to find another Giselle? Oh, he's foggy. You think that he's the most, like, do you think it's easier for Giselle to find

another Tom Brady. The supermodel. The supermodel. Supermodel. You don't think Tom Brady can go get another supermodel today if you want to?

You don't think she could have went and got another football player if she wanted. There ain't another Tom Brady. What are you talking about? Who is the other Tom Brady?

This one top gun Brady. What did that mean? Okay. And this is y'all thing because the things y'all admire about men that like you show at their thing she admired about the niggum

when she got married to them. The same thing she admired. The same thing she admired. And you can still be a shitty husband. No, for sure. Wait, whoa, whoa,

I'm not saying you can't be a shitty husband. There's only so much money in the world. I'm saying it's it easier for Tom Brady to find another

supermodel wife or is it easy for Giselle to find another most winning fucking NFL player greatest quarterback of what time? I think if you go to 10 Super Bowls,

you're allowed to be a shitty husband for a year. What does that do for her? What does that do for her? Other than the money, what does that do? Okay, you're the greatest

quarterback or whatever the fuck he is of all time. What does that do for her? He's a great commentator other than the money. what does it do? I mean, I don't know. I don't know what their relationship was like.

I don't know what their issues were. Him being amazing at his job, outside of the money does nothing for marriage. That's all we know about these people is their professions. She's a supermodel. She is one of the greatest models. She could have been a shitty wife. Yeah, that's fine.

That's also possible too. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. But you're saying, you can't find another time. No, no, no, no, no. Is it easier to find another supermodel of a wife or another one of the greatest one of the greatest football players of all time, which is easier to find. All supermodels aren't created equal. All supermodels aren't.

All supermodels aren't. models aren't Jezeau, respectfully. And all quarterbacks ain't Tom. Okay. There you go. But their jobs have nothing to do with. Shit. Okay.

You want to know why them lawyers were sitting at that divorce table for so long? Their lives have a lot to do with it. Their income has a lot to do with it. Let's put it to chance as a draft. Are you, do you have a higher chance of drafting Tom Brady, a Tom Brady or drafting a Jazeel? Jazeel. I live in Manhattan.

I grew up in New York. It's beautiful women right now. If I go to Grand Street right now and stand on the corner for 10 minutes, I'm going to see four women that look better than Giselle. Guess what I won't see walk past me. A nigga that could throw the football like Tom Brady. I can go to every NFL stadium right now. I can go to every NFL combine where they've collected the best fucking football players in the nation

and won't find a nigga like Tom Brady. Where they collected, where professional scouts have scoured the lands of America and look for the next great one and none of them will look like Tom Brady. But okay, let me get some pushback. She is like the Tom Brady of her profession. No, she ain't. It's funny that you have to say the Tom Brady of her profession,

which just gives more credit to Tom Brady. No one goes, when Tom Brady was, you know, beaten the Rams for the first time, they weren't like, he's kind of like the Giselle of that. Yeah, that's all I'm saying, the baby did. It's like I get it, you know what I'm saying? Just like Tom. That's a goat in her.

Just like Tom Brady could have a good. craziest couples of all. No, for sure. Just like Tom Brady could have been a terrible husband. That's Jay-Z, Beyonce shit. Like, that's crazy. Giselle could have been a terrible wife. I don't know why they split.

Like, I have no idea. I think it says a lot that, you know, she married the trainer that Tom hired for her. If we want to go to personality traits. It happened to puff and Tom. There we go. I mean, we just, you know, it is what it is. If your ex-wife was getting married and everything was cool, whatever, of course your kids are going to be there, but you're not going.

Would you be texting? in your kids group chat, like, yeah, what the spread look like? Would you be, I'd be trolling the whole town. If what? If my ex-wife was getting married, everything cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But of course, your kids are going to go to their mother's wedding. You're not going.

I'm texting that group chat all day. Like, nah, let me see what, let me see what color scheme they want. No, you can't, you can't be that dad. Bothered, bother. No, but you're saying, like, not in a serious, like, everything's cool. You happy for your ex-wife? Like, I'd be joking with. Nah, but that's like, yeah, but that's like when somebody say something in the group chat,

you know, they're serious and they end it with LOLs. Like, nigga, you ain't laughing. Like, don't text your kids all day like, yo, what it's looking like? Why they're at their mom's new wedding? Like, don't, you can't do that. Oh, crab cakes? Hmm, me and your mom had steak. Yeah, no, you can't do that.

You can't do that. Only a chicken and fish option? You should have seen, you should have seen me in your mom's wedding. Should have seen I spread. Took them three days to clean that table. Yep. Yeah, that's so annoying. All right, Rory, now, before we get out of here, I am going to say this.

And this is just because it's Christmas time's Christmas week. Holidays, happy holidays. Happy holidays. Excuse me. Merry Christmas, happy holidays. No, no, just happy holidays. No, Merry Christmas. Don't offend anyone.

Don't offend anyone. Okay, happy holidays. I do feel like, though, Rory, we may be getting a surprise album this week from a major artist. Don't know who. Did they just celebrate the last day of Hanukkah recently? Don't know who. But also have a father from Memphis that doesn't celebrate Hanukkah?

I don't know who. I'm just saying, I think, for Christmas, we're all going to wake up with. a new TI special. We already know that one though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the trailer drop. So we're going to get that. And we may be getting an album from somebody that we've all been waiting to hear from.

No names attached to it. Okay. Are they also going to be the host of the hot 90s something working? Maybe. That may be part of the bundle. That's the most sickest bundle of all time. You get an album and a co-host. You get an album.

And now I'm your co-host for the morning show at Out 97. But either way, happy holidays. We hope you all are having fun. Be safe. This ending is sponsored by Boost. Yeah, the ending is sponsored by Boost. We hope that you all have a great time. We'll talk to y'all soon.

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