New Rory & MAL - Episode 444 | Unpop The Oxy

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

Baby D is back! And she’s all out of oxy, but no worries she’s good. Now that she’s back in person, we get her full thoughts on J. Cole’s initial roll out, and debate whether C...ole really dissed Jay-Z. Mal can’t comprehend going to 5 different spots on a first date. Rory and Mal think A$AP Rocky’s “Don’t Be Dumb” is his best work to date. Plus, T.I. is back with a new track, North West begins her career of world domination, and Mal can’t respect Ludacris and his decision to back out of the “Rock The Country” music festival. #volume All lines provided by hardrock.betSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 The volume. What you're giggling for? I can't laugh. Fuck is funny. It's a rolling start. Welcome back to Baby Dee. She's here. Now, clap louder. What the fun? We asked clap. Welcome back. Thank you. Hi. Fresh out of surgery. Flashy as fuck. You're going to have to. I don't even feel like you was gone, though, because, like, we spoke to you.
Starting point is 00:02:39 So it wasn't like, we didn't see you here, but like, we spoke to you. Her spirit was here. Morgan told me in 50 different ways he didn't miss me. Like, he's like, he kept telling me you don't believe me. So I'm going to keep saying it. I'm happy to see you back and healthy, but I was not expecting the red demon to return. Is this part of your 2016? Is this a shock of Maris right?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Shocker Maris. I needed to feel like myself. And dying my hair back red helps me feel like myself. I did not feel like myself. Okay. Well, how are you feeling, though? Like, I'm okay. I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:03:11 A little residual payment. I'm okay. It only really hurts when I laugh. Streets are saying you got a BBL or Lypo 360. They are. I fucking wish. I have the scars. I have the same exact BBL scars, but I don't have a BBL.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That's what they're saying. They were like, she had a 360, Lypo 360? I mean, while they was in there, they couldn't just move some things around. That's what I was saying. I'm like, like, y'all can't get a little. Since I'm on the table. Yeah. Literally the exact same places they go in for.
Starting point is 00:03:35 LIPO. Like, damn, y'all couldn't. No, unfortunately not. So you can't laugh too hard. I can't laugh too hard. Sneeze. You can't sneeze or cough. Yeah. So hopefully it's, you know, your allergies ain't acting up today. I don't know about laughing though because, you know, we're going to get on your ass since you wasn't here. We got to talk some shit with you now. You know, you got to do that. Did you pick up any new, like, hobbies, learn anything about yourself?
Starting point is 00:03:59 No. I just sent emails, cried, watch long order. Okay. That's literally it. Sent emails cried and watched my order. That's all you did. I don't know why you don't believe me. I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I'm being honest. I don't believe what you did was sending emails crying and watch long. Bro, if I was to call any of my friends right now, my phone beyond. Friends lie for you? Nah. My phone got to lie for you all the time. Yeah. I live in the crib, like literally just like sleep off Oxy and then when I'm up, I'm watching
Starting point is 00:04:25 law order. Oh, and also watching Law & Order off Oxy is mad fun. All right. I never did that off oxy. It's mad fun. Maybe we'll do it for a Patreon episode. Like you gotta pop of Oxy and them just bench watch Lord of them. And they just sit back like, damn, that shit is crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:41 It's no fun. I do that when I'm not over. I mean, what's, what's Olivia like off the Oxy? You see that she really a weird. She really a real ass bitch, but she'd be in her feelings sometimes. That's because she was, we can't say the word. We'll get demonetized. That's because she's a woman.
Starting point is 00:04:56 No, she went through a traumatic experience that the show is about. Okay. So every case is personal. Yeah. And Ice Tea works in the sex division and still doesn't understand. Not her. and Robbins be giving out. They gotta stop fucking. Her and Rollins got to stop fucking their co-workers. Okay. But why?
Starting point is 00:05:12 It's consensual in a show based off non-consension. Yeah, but it's like you climb into the top and now they don't, they don't fucking around fired you just because you couldn't keep that pussy to yourself. You don't fucking around and fuck one of your coworkers. Now they're looking at you like, wait, you compromise. They're moving you to internal affairs somewhere. Like, you got to. Also getting turned on at work with that job is a little weird. I'm saying? Like, why are you?
Starting point is 00:05:34 Like in Mad Men, I guess I kind of understand it at an advertising office you can find a way. But like, you work in the sex crime division. You're like, you know, I'm going to fuck my coworker. Yeah, I'm going to leave and go fuck my coworker. Like. Well, trauma makes people horny, though. You know, put the better help ad right here.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I don't know. No? Laying that. It's like circling the air right now. Like when something traumatic happens, like, you know, whether it's, you know, death or you've never seen wedding crashes. You saw how he was cleaning. up at the funerals.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Some traumatic shit. Chicks was mad horny though. It was a script. It's a real thing. I want to give them all pushback, but my daughter was conceived around a very traumatic experience. We were in that location because of a very, very
Starting point is 00:06:19 traumatic experience. It's not that trauma makes you horny. It's that trauma makes people want to escape and a lot of people use sex as an escape. Well, according to the AI, yes, trauma can make people feel horny, but it's complex. What is AI? No. Oh, I mean, all right. So then fuck it. We don't breathe AI no more.
Starting point is 00:06:34 But yeah, trauma really does make people horny. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if it was the trial. I think it was more the Ocean Prime and Top Golf, but same day. I ain't never went to Ocean Prime and I got no pussy. So I feel that makes me. You never went to Ocean Prime.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And now I got pussy afterwards? And not got pussy. You either. For sure. Yo, I'm just saying. But I don't think I've ever went to Ocean Prime with just a friend. Like, that's kind of weird. Oh, you know, anytime you're to Ocean Prime.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yeah, like it was always with somebody I was like dating. He was trying to have. Yeah, or already having. Yeah. Yeah. Just going to like Ocean Prime with the fellas is kind of, kind of nuts. It's another word for that. We won't say that to Sarah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 In the broadcast. Yeah, no, all the in-sell streamers did it together. Yeah. Over the weekend. How y'all been? I've seen y'all had some women on the podcast. Don't never bring the holes here when I'm here. Awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I leave suddenly. Some may have called an audition or a job in it. We didn't know if you were going to, if you were going to be here today. Yeah, you got that. I heard you got that Lypo 360. I said, We didn't lost her. She gone. She gone. You know what? I get that Lypo 360.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yes, yeah, it's over with. Like, nah, but we had Mitch and Major on coming and give us some, we needed some feminine energy in the studio since she was going. So we had a good conversation with them. Yeah, it's available now on Patreon. It was a very, very fun, fun episode. I want to have them back again with Baby Dee here too. Yeah, let's go. And once they get a little more comfortable, they were great. Except you guys flaked on me this weekend.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I was all ready. You guys heightened me up on the Patreon. episode that we were going to go to a bar in Harlem on Sunday, my day off. I got a haircut. I may or may not have laid out like a fit. I texted mall on the wake up like, you know, 8 a.m. What are we doing at 9 tonight? I looked outside. I saw a lot snow. I'm like, Roy, if you don't get off my phone, man, I'm not going to no lounge in this snow. You crazy? It's the best time to go. No, not me. I was cool. Right in the bed watching football. Some Montclair boots I was going to get off. Like I had a long train. Oh, you had the whole laydown. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:31 My bad, I ain't know you was that, you was that in games. I almost just went. What's the name of the bargain? He was going to pull up by yourself? Yeah. No, but it occurred to me that New York has turned into Atlanta. We are pussy. That snow on Sunday was nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:47 No, it wasn't. Like, we used to laugh at that type of shit. Now they're like, we should cancel the day. It wasn't a snowstorm, but it's like when you wake up and it's snowing, it's Sunday, it's playoffs on, I'm not leaving the crib, but I'm like, Not to go to no lounge. I'm not doing that. Now,
Starting point is 00:09:02 well, I assume they had the game won. That's why I, like, wanted to go. They probably did, but I wasn't, it's different. You know what's different
Starting point is 00:09:07 when you, because the sound is not on. The DJ's playing his latest mix. His latest mix. And we're just watching them, like, are they going forward on fourth? We can't hear what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Like, I just can't watch the game like that. I just wasn't down to that. I actually don't mind the bars that, that put, like, the sound on and then on commercials, the DJ comes back in.
Starting point is 00:09:23 It's on the 40-40? Well, yes, the 40-40, yes, does that. But a lot of bounce does that. But then, like, they don't do the volume. They don't EQ it right. Yeah. I shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:09:34 The game is loud as fuck. I can hear them walking on the grass. I shouldn't hear GZ and the commentating at the same level, like, with the base on. Yeah, now I'm cool. That's why I don't go. That's why I stay in the house. But we could have had some fun. Can we do it this Sunday?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Oh, yeah. If Mitch is working, I'm not sure if she's there this Sunday or not, but I'll hit up and we'll find out. Okay. Yeah. We definitely got to pull up, though, the supporter. How was football this Sunday? I didn't watch Long Order. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:09:57 Who's like going to the Super Bowl? I don't know. Patriots all the way may. All the way may. No one's going to the Super Bowl yet. It's the Patriots in Denver and the AFC. Okay. Patriots is going to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I mean, they are going to walk now that the Broncos are that hurt. They'll probably just walk right there. Has there been a franchise that came off a dynasty that turned their franchise back around that quickly? I can't think. Did the Celtics do that? Did the Lakers do that? Like, I can't think of a time. Like, it's how many years?
Starting point is 00:10:28 They had like one bad Cam Newton here. And now they're about to go back to the Super Bowl. Yeah, no, this is. With a whole new squad. It's not like there's remnants of like. Whole new offense. Matter of fact, their outside linebackers now the head coach. It's the only remnants of the entire thing.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah. It's been fun to watch, though. Like, it definitely was surprised. I remember at the beginning of year, I was like, there's no way. Like I just thought, like you said, I thought it was our rebuilding time. I thought it was going to take a couple years. Yeah. But what Drake May has been able to do.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And, you know, Stefan Diggs is playing is great this year, too. Like, they surprised me. Fair. Going, going from drafting the greatest quarterback of all the time in the sixth round to then drafting a 23-year-old phenom in a two-season turnaround. It's crazy. Insane. But, yeah, they look like they're going all the way, though.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Patriots are like they going all the way. And the other side? Shut up, Roy. I like the Rams. I like for them to go in Chicago and do what they did in that cold. Everybody thought that was going to be the element that. I thought the Bears were going to win. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I was a little shocked. I like the Rams. I like the Rams and Patriots. I mean, I can honestly see the Patriots. You said we'll spread them later on? Yeah, we'll go through our Sprutum picks later in the week and then pick our new spreadums. Spritoms. It was a very good, good playoff week for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I enjoyed all the games. But yeah, I had to do it from sanctity of my home when I wanted to go outside. I haven't been outside in so long. Yeah. It's okay. We'll get you outside of something. Don't worry. You're not missing much.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Wanted to get Virgo from the hookah. Like wanted to get a stomach ache. Oh shit. I did go on Friday though. I totally forgot about that shit. Okay. Trevor was in town. Trevor Reasonable But I haven't seen him in a while.
Starting point is 00:12:02 The Knicks invited him out. They had like an alumni day at the game Saturday. Oh, nice. Okay. So he hit me Friday morning and told me he was in town. So we went out and got something to eat. They were smoking hookah. I was just like, your dog.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Anybody in that? No. He was the only one smoking. No, actually his lady was smoking. He wasn't smoke hookah. But I was just in there like, everybody was like, Yo, Ma'u's up, you good. I was like, I don't be outside.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like, it's one in the morning. I'm like, yo, dog. What we doing? What we doing? But, you know, I haven't seen Trev in a while, so he wanted to just hang out and kick it. So he had me outside to like 3.30 in the morning. I called him the next day.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I was just texted me, like, fuck you. And I'll never want to see you again. And my body was hurting just from being out. Oh, that's why you didn't want to go out Sunday. I'm saying you weren't two-day recovery. No, no, no, no, no. I was good Sunday. If, like I said, Mitch was cool.
Starting point is 00:12:51 told you like, yeah, let's go. But I wasn't leaving my bed just to go watch people smoke hook in Harlem, wasn't doing that. So it was like a club situation or? Do me and travel with? Yeah. It was a, it was, it was, what's the day? Mirror, Mara, mirror, mirror.
Starting point is 00:13:05 It's like a lukukuk, lounge, slash restaurant, Mediterranean vibe. It was cool. I could have guessed. It was a cool little vibe. But, you know, I don't be going out. And he had me out to damn near four in the morning. So. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Any, any lady friends out there? What was the crowd like? it was cool it was a nice little mixed vibe and it was a lot of I don't know what's going on with the fellas in New York but I saw a lot of ladies just ladies by themselves out
Starting point is 00:13:30 okay and I was like I was looking at tables like either some niggas them pissed them off or they're about to meet some niggas after this like because I couldn't believe it was that many tables with just women like and no guys around
Starting point is 00:13:41 we like hanging out with each other no I saw I saw that but still I'm like They were talking and like Yeah they was having a bit time of time of shit Yeah I'm having a ball What I'm saying is split in the bill Nobody arguing
Starting point is 00:13:51 Was it free? Was it on the house? Who paid? No. They don't have wallets? Oh, my God. Listen, they split the bill. It was no arguing. I hate that. I was just like, oh, look at this. Like, the world was healing a little bit.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Like, okay, I didn't know that the ladies was taking themselves out and just having a good time, yeah. A lot of Caesar salads or do they get like entree? No, it was entreeze. It was craze. I don't think y'all know how women eat when y'all aren't around. Oh, no, y'all eat. We go crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah, we go crazy. I already, though. Trust me. I know. Yeah, it's women and women and, whatever NBA team is in town that keeps Tao afloat for sure. Keep the lights on the town. Whoever the visiting team plus women just keeping that place.
Starting point is 00:14:31 This mirror place looks nice, Mom. Where's it at? It was cool. East 34th. It used to be another spot and they just rebranded it. I think it used to be called Babylon. Oh, that would make sense. I think that was Babylon before.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Every hookah spot was called Babylon before. Yeah, I think that was Babylon because when we pulled up, I was like, I felt like I've been here years ago. Is it smoking mirrors? No, Mara, M-I-R-A. Oh, sorry. And we're giving them free pub, but it's okay. The guys was cool that owned the spot.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It was super cool. So shout out to them, man. But yeah, go check it out. You'll like it. Well, when I'm done with dry January, because that's been going great. You had no, well, you're no choice. Yeah. No, I could drink.
Starting point is 00:15:09 No, you cannot. After surgery, you're going to drink. After taking oxies? No, the fuck you cannot. I'm not operating heavy machinery, my nigga. If I wanted to drink, I could drink. No, you cannot, bro. Wait, you say only out of an oxy shes.
Starting point is 00:15:21 shouldn't go together unless you're a construction worker. Yeah, like, what do you talk about? Like what? I would die. Not everyone's a sound cloud rapper. You're not supposed to drink alcohol and take oxy. Oh, I haven't been doing it, but I always thought I could drink. Like, they didn't tell me I couldn't drink.
Starting point is 00:15:33 They said, don't drive if I, like, was to drink, like, with the oxy. I don't think what you should drink. Like, I just don't think you should be drinking. Like, not why you just has surgery. But you can drive just off oxies or just drinking. Like, you can't laugh. You're not allowed to laugh, but you want to drink. Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:15:48 I plan I plan I not drinking anyway, even before my sentence. Yes, you did. You said dry. Yeah, I was doing Dry Dream. Peach hung in there for about two weeks. Nice. Pete, you gave up. You quit on me.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Alex put on me too. He gave up. What was it last? Last weekend, right? Last Sunday, I think he had. Oh, I saw, yeah, you sent me a selfie and you out with dinner. Yeah. Yeah, Peach hung in there as long as he.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I knew he wasn't going to make it, though. I could just look in his eyes. And Rory dying to have a drink. Who said I was doing dry January? I never once said that. Roy didn't do any dry January. I did dry holiday break in New Year's. And then I got back in the action.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You got back in the game Nick said I did a dry week I mean I don't know I'm not a pussy Like no February 6th My first drink Gonna be my first drink February 6th I'm still smoke free
Starting point is 00:16:30 When are you gonna stop February 6th No you caught secondhand at Mira Well hook yeah But yeah no I'm not the whole year I'm not gonna smoke Oh you did say the whole year Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:41 How has your mood been Like you've been okay? I'm fine I'm not a crackhead baby D Like I don't I'm not one of those people That wake up smoke weed Can't eat until
Starting point is 00:16:50 I smoke weed. Like, I know people like that. I'm not one of those guys. No. Yeah, so no, I'm good. I'm totally fine. It's easy for me. Not even like a celebratory, like your birthday, ice man,
Starting point is 00:17:00 because she's drinking for Cole. Smoke for when Drake's album come out. That is, you know, you're going to add to this narrative that I'm gay online. You're saying shit like that, bro. Like, stop saying shit like that. No, I'm not smoking for Drake's album. I'm only saying that because she just said her first drink was going to be February 6th.
Starting point is 00:17:16 There's a reason. That's the day Cole's album comes up. Wait, that's why you drink it? Well, no. I was going to do February 1st, obviously, but I was like, let me just wait to the weekend. And also, that's when I can like, that's when I'm like officially kind of like off my medicine. That's when the oxies run out. Yeah, that's when her prescription is done. Then you got to be copping on folding instead. No, I'm not going to lie. Yesterday, I was in so much pain. I was on my last oxy. I'm like, where can I get this on the street? Dead ass. See, that's how it's. That's how the government gets you. That's how they get you addicted. Next thing you know, you behind 7-Eleven sucking dick for oxies. See? See how fast it goes? I feel like I have pretty. I can blink and get the oxy. Like I could just bat my eyelashes. I don't feel like I got to go all the way and like suck it. That'll work, that'll work a couple times on a certain pill pushes.
Starting point is 00:17:58 But then one of them times, you know, listen, fuck them eyes. Like, look, some of them thighs. Like, he ain't going to keep fronting you. No oxy just because you blinking at them. Like, that ain't, that's going to last two times baby did. Then it's over with after that. And a year into the oxies, you're not going to look like this. Yeah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You'll look completely. You won't need LIPO 360 after a year of bingeing oxies behind 711. No, baby. I don't need it now, but I hear you. No, you're right. You don't need a lipo 360. You're absolutely right. But they're going to be like,
Starting point is 00:18:26 you're going to start asking that next year around this time if you go down that oxy hole. Anytime you see low-end, anytime you hear that noise, done, done, you know she just popped another one. That's how you know she relapsed. You just got to look through her blinds like, God damn.
Starting point is 00:18:41 She's gone. I missed y'all, yo. You did? I really did. Guess what us missed us. We are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, text, and Dada. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:18:50 ABD. Yes. This MLK Day is sponsored by Empowered by Boost. Yes. Yeah, I wasn't going to come today. Oh, MLK Day? Yeah. It's something to go wrong, right? It's about working for the white man on MLK Day that I don't sit right in my spirit. Every black holiday I'm here, June Teeth, MLK Day, Black History Month.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Like, I'm always here working for him. Well, to be fair, MLK's birthday was Friday, wasn't it? His official birthday was Friday? We just sell it, observe it today, right? Just so we get, just so the post office get a day off. Yeah. But I mean, he did this was his dream for equal rights at work yeah he had a dream his dream was that you would be back on his birthday yeah to talk to the beautiful people out there um i don't know how the fbi got into um my algorithms but this morning one of the first tweets i saw was fbi's twitter account saying today
Starting point is 00:19:39 the fbi i honors the life and work of the reverend dr martin luther king junior and reaffirms our commitment to fairness and equal justice for all hashtag mokay we would not have have MLK Day if the FBI did not murder this man. I thought that was the CIA. It was both. Well, yeah, they had like a lunch together and decided it was time. Yeah. Hoover used to like publicly, it wasn't like they found some unredacted files.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Hoover used to publicly say we should murder this man. Baby D. Do you realize that in that picture right there, Martin Luther King, you are a year younger than he was? Yeah. How crazy is that? That shit is insane. They used to look real old back in the day. How crazy is that?
Starting point is 00:20:20 I think it was the headcuts. So he was 32? It was a mustache. When he died, I think he was 33. Am I mistaken? That's a hard 33 club. Yeah, I think he was 33. Yeah, everyone did just look older.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And sound older. He was 39. He was 39 when he died? Oh, okay. All right, that changes things a bit. He looked like a 39-year-old. Yo. Did he?
Starting point is 00:20:41 For his era, for sure. I thought he looked older than that. Because that picture right there, I don't think he was 39. But that's just, I feel like how we learned history, no matter what those people just seemed so much older than they were when we were learning. And it was the fashion, too. You didn't really wear sneakers back then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You didn't really wear, you know, the things that people wear now. So everybody was like every day you would just have on slacks in a shirt and ties. Like, where are you going? He's like, yo, I'm going to watch the game. Now 35 girls wear sweats to work. Kids that are born now are going to look at y'all and think like the same thing. Like kids that are born now are going to like look at when they turn like 15, they can be like, oh, that's an old nigga. he got Gossiped on.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah. Like that's, it's just because the truth change. They're going to be wearing like just full like, well, y'all wear it now, like the full body suits, but I believe everybody's going to have to just wear body suits every day. Like total recall. Remember total recall? Like I think everybody's going to have to dress like that. That's it.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. I think that's going to be the fashion. Like, everybody's got body suits on every day. Like, yo, what he got on jeans? What are he wearing? Like, y'all don't remember jeans? That's definitely a black mirror episode that they're shooting right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah. Like, yo, he's wearing jeans. When was he born in the 1900s? He was born in the 19th. I hate when people say that the 19th. Like when the young kids were like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:52 she was born in 1900s. Yeah, what? Or they call me Auntie. Auntie. Auntie now. Auntie still snatched. That 23 year old nigga you would. You might want to relax.
Starting point is 00:22:02 We all had aunties like that. You remember your auntie that was like that when you was 14? That you was like, Auntie, how old is your new boo? Nigger was in there fresh out of high school. I was watching Juice the other day. Q was fucking that grown ass. Y' got to ask Omar about that.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Like, yo, who wrote that? You was in high school. Your chick was a nurse. Like she was a grown-ass woman on the apartment, had her ex-husband there, like picking up his clothes when you went there. Like, this nigga was in high school. And at no point did anyone call that woman a predator. At all.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And what was so funny, her ex-husband that came up to pick his shit up, wasn't mad that his wife was fucking a teenager. It was his name. His name was GQ. At no point did he be like, listen, we're done. So what you do is your business. This is a child. You.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah, that was crazy. How the name is Q. Every time I look at that movie, I'm like, yo, this is crazy. He had a grown-ass girlfriend. That happens a lot, though. Them old bitches be getting them young niggas. High school, though?
Starting point is 00:23:01 That shit is. They're nasty. I mean, I don't know if there's a stat, but there's a large group of men that lost their virginity to older women. Most men lost their virginity to older women. Yeah. Well, I guess that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:12 All right, well. Because I don't realize there's anything wrong with it. Yeah, that shit is fly. I mean, you're asking me there's nothing wrong with it. Yeah, like, was the man. If I was in high school and the older one wanted to give me no pussy, nobody bed and had said nothing. Everybody shut up in mind your fucking business. She need to go to jail. We in love. I'd have been in the hole was they, we had love. I love Miss Mary. She gave me lunch
Starting point is 00:23:31 money and everything. You got to think about Q, Q skipping school, being a DJ, having an older one with your own apartment. You was the fucking man. Like, he didn't need, he had so much time on his hands, he just decided to rob a store. They didn't need that shit. He had a whole apartment with a 35-year-old queen. I don't think she was that old. I think she might have been like mid-20s. I don't think she was that old. Well, I don't even know how we got on that topic.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I was just watching Jus the other than thought about it. All right, Jamaris, we didn't get like your full cold take. I don't want to drag out a whole other episode on one song, but, I mean, I know this was a really big moment for you, and we have the date. Do you have any more from the song that you took? Did you start maybe writing your life in reverse as maybe a writing exercise? I didn't want to depress myself. A cold challenge.
Starting point is 00:24:21 No, I didn't want to depress myself. I'm so cool. Now, start that. Start the cold challenge. Yo, let's part in reverse. Do we have voicemails? You got to start with, can you do your tagline in reverse? I'm that nigger.
Starting point is 00:24:39 He's just jimps. Do we have voicemails? And Demer started her story on like the surgery table. Yeah, yeah. That's just a dark way to. Yeah, you got to rhyme from the surgery. table. Nah, Roy, that should be our next challenge.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Turn off the Olivia Benson and here. I can see your whole shit. Yeah, we got it. Unpop to oxy. Let's do that, Roy. Unpop the oxy for the shit. Her hair go back to black. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I'm sorry, baby. They don't think I'm hating if I laugh too hard. Go ahead, baby. No, but let's do that, Roy, for our next writing challenge. Write our lives in reverse. Well, let's pick a topic to do a reverse. Why you want to write your life in it? Because we're not that interesting.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Like, it should be a funny topic. I feel like your life is interesting enough to write in reverse. It's been, it's on document for 10. Just literally go on SoundCloud and hit reverse. Start with this episode and go back. I'll give you my RSS feed and you can just put it in reverse. I have your RSS feed. You don't have your RSS feed.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I have your RSS feed. But yeah, it's been, it's been a weekend. The world got to live with the song, dissect it. Is it the greatest piece of literature that's ever existed or what? I think it's really good. I think it's a really good song and I think it took a lot of talent to write it. But I'm looking forward to the rest of the album. I think it was a great little Lucy to drop.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I'm with you. I'm with you. I did see people coming up with the theory instead of this being a double disc that we would be getting maybe a mixtape this week. And then the second disc is the album on February 6th. I don't think that. I think if anything, it'll be a triple disc. I don't think it'll be that. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:26:16 See, this is. Now we're just throwing shit. This is where I start sounding like I hate Jermaine. When I see, don't say it's a triple disc. It better not be no fucking truth. Nobody wants a triple disc. If it's 30 songs, I don't think that that's too much. I don't think 30 songs with five of them be interludes is too much from fucking Jay Cole.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, 30 songs is too from anybody. Chris Brown is that's 75 every cycle. It's too much. It's too much. Everybody has ADHD. No artist should be putting out 30 songs. I don't care how great of artists. You don't see.
Starting point is 00:26:46 How many do you think is too? Cole fans are more intelligent. If we get five interludes, and it's so that's 25 full songs. I don't think that that's too much. I don't want, 25 songs?
Starting point is 00:26:57 I don't think. I'm here for 25 songs from J. Cole. Y'all are fucking psychos, bro. 25 songs is crazy. There's few artists I would want it from, but yeah, Cole would be one of them. Yeah, I don't have any inside information.
Starting point is 00:27:09 That's just like a hope and a dream. I don't think. Or like a prediction. That's what you saw off the oxy? Yeah, that's what I saw. You envision that? Yeah. There's disc three.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And, that's not fair because, because, you know, not just first album that came to mind. I remember for all the dogs being long as fuck, and then the deluxe made it even longer. The deluxe made it 29 songs. All right now stop right there. The deluxe is a hold. Don't respond. This is my camera peach? I did not bring that
Starting point is 00:27:33 man's name. I did. No, I did because that was the first. No, they always put, they always say I'm bringing it up when he talked about J. Cole. I did. And it's not because of J. Cole in comparison to J. Cole. It's because I had to think of an artist that you like that dropped up a long album. For all the dogs is the first album I thought of because I remember for all the dogs being long.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So that's why I thought. And then also having a deluxe. That's too long as well. So. Yeah. I'm on the same side of role that shit. I feel like all of that is too much. I understand it though. Especially when you're talking about streaming, you got to play those games.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You got to because it's a streaming era now. So the longer you keep people listening to an album, the better your streams. Look, so I get that. So it's not the artist's fault. Well, if you split it up properly, like Scorpion, like I said, isn't the highest in my discography. But it didn't feel long because he split it. and the two discs and one is rap, one is R&B.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So if Cole gives us that amount and splits it properly where it feels like two separate projects in one album, I don't think it's going to feel like 25 straight records. Exactly. That's why sometimes double-disc are helpful. The length of the song too helps. If the songs, if you have a bunch of songs that are a minute, 40, two minutes, then I understand that.
Starting point is 00:28:38 This era, that's why I think it's funny. I understand that guys put more songs because of the streaming era, but it'll be 28 songs on your album in the shit is 49 minutes. Like Playboy Cardi's album, I think is about 10 minutes. Just vibes. I'm like, yo, how did this add up to this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But yeah, we like the record. There was one topic, and we don't have to drag it because we did give two episodes on Cole. We never got to the subject of him saying in that record, I was signed to the so-called rap king in regard to Jay-Z. That I planned to us, sir. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Where do you guys stand on that? because definitely split with people saying he's taking a shot. I think it's so obvious what he's saying. If you're rapping in reverse and rapping about your mindset and rapping about, he's not rapping in his current mindset. None of that, none of that song is,
Starting point is 00:29:31 this is my current mindset. This is my mindset when I was in this place. Like he said, I planned a year. So one of the current so-called rap kings, I plan to your, you sir, like I plan to take this spot.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Like, that's the young. No, I know what he was saying. First of you said, I think I was signed to my hero, the so-called rap. Yeah. But why do you think he said
Starting point is 00:29:48 so-called rap King in that regard? I don't know. I really don't know, but I don't think it was a shot. I have a very nerdy take of that. I don't think it was a shot at all. I think it plays into the theme.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It mostly be so mad of like, I'm going to sound like one of those cold fans that is giving so much credit. You are one of those cold fans. Go ahead. So much deep thought into something that probably is a very surface level bar at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I think it ties into the theme of the falloff because around the time, that Cole signed to Hove was around Blueprint 3. He was even on Starsborn. Blueprint 3 to Magna Carta era. That was the time that I remember, people started being like,
Starting point is 00:30:28 man, Hove falling off. Yeah. So I think he's speaking more so of what fans were saying of artists getting to that point in their career of so-called King. Like, I think it was more so what the fan's perspective of Hove was at that time.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I agree. That's why that. It was his childhood hero of like, how could you not think Hove is the greatest that was around the time that people were like, all right, man, I don't know. That was, Blueprint 3 wasn't really it for me. Maybe he's Magna Carta, yo, he's really out of touch.
Starting point is 00:30:59 He's just rapping about shit, I don't understand. I can't afford $10 million art pieces. I can't relate to this. So I think it was more so in his timeline where Hove was at in his career where the public thought. Like, no matter what you do, you're still going to be called
Starting point is 00:31:15 the so-called king. You could be Hove in 2009 and people will still be like, so-called king. I think it just plays into the falloff theme of everything and where Hove was at in the timeline Cole is rapping about then. Because I think, honestly, where the Hove Avengers and Hove stands here. It wasn't really until 444 did Hove win a lot of people back musically. A lot of average fans that aren't from New York were definitely questioning a bit after Magna Carta like, no, he's still a goat, but like, I don't really need anything from him. That was kind of in his, I used to argue a lot with people, I remember these arguments being younger, when people started saying he was unrelatable. They had said he had made so much money that
Starting point is 00:31:57 he started rapping, like, I can't relate to him anymore. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about a lot with Magna Carta. After Magna Carta came out and I was just like, we'll learn something. And then thank God, watch the throne was what it was as well, because obviously that was like, and I like Magna Carta, don't get me wrong. But I was also one of those people like, I also don't know what the fuck. I can't really relate to anything. It just sounds great though. If the first time, the first time I figured out what the fuck, Tom Ford was, was from the song, Tom Ford. And guess what I learned something. Thank you for letting me, thank you for making me fly a hole. Like, I like shit like that. At that time, where my bank guy was, like, all I want is a Picasso.
Starting point is 00:32:29 No, all I want is lunch. Like, I can't relate to nothing you're saying right now. One one is a taco. But I never understood that. I never understood people's need for relatability. Even like in when I watch content now, so many people are like, you know, when it comes to content creators, they're like, this person has become unrelatable. Like at first they were relatable and then they became very successful in content created because they were so relatable. And now like they got an induction stove and you can't see the burners on their stove. Now you say you can't relate to them anymore. And it's like, why do y'all, I never understood the need for relatability.
Starting point is 00:33:04 The people that I like watching or the content that I like consuming are people that I can't relate to. I like people who are so much richer than me than they're showing me some shit. I didn't know about. There needs to be a bouncer because music and I wouldn't say entertainment all the way, but music specifically hits you in a certain type of way. Relatability connects you more to it. Whereas, but also like, could I relate to anything on Get Richard I Trying? No.
Starting point is 00:33:28 But that's what I was saying. It was entertaining and great. But I didn't feel that type of way. But Hove somebody, yes, I can't really relate to anything on reasonable doubt. But Hove wasn't just selling drugs in his music. like there's human level shit throughout his entire career that isn't about money
Starting point is 00:33:47 selling drugs fucking buying out the bar like there's relatable shit in there people were saying at that point Magnin Carda Doe all you're talking about literally is material items true
Starting point is 00:33:58 even though that isn't really the case that was the consensus I feel like what the masses thought after that so just to be clear we feel like Cole didn't take a shot I don't think he took a shot was oh thank you for circling back
Starting point is 00:34:08 while that was great of you I don't think it was a shot no you feel like it was a shot a shot? I'm not going to say a shot because I don't think Jay Cole's that stupid. But I feel like it was an honest feeling he may have had. Like, you know, but I'm not going to say shot because shot makes it seem like he wants
Starting point is 00:34:34 that problem with Jay and he doesn't. But I feel like it was just an honest, you know, feeling that he had at one point like so-called rap king. Like, you know what I mean? But why do you think he would feel that at that time of his career when he signed? Well, he also said hero right before it. That was my hero. Signed his hero, the so-called rapping.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Why do you think he would feel that in 2009, 2010, 2011? Oh, I don't know why he would feel that. But again, I'm just of, you know, people starting this, you know, thing online with they're saying, oh, he took a shot at Jay. I'm not going to say it was a shot. But I do feel like, you know, what he said, he meant that, like, you know, it was probably a real feeling that he had at that time. like j is a so-called rap king like and then i you know then there's a weird space in it too where i don't
Starting point is 00:35:20 know if that's necessarily disrespectful like even if you say so-called goat so-called you know i don't know if that's disrespectful to say so-called rap king or so-called but usually so-called is said in kind of a condescending right but i i just don't know if that's like a shot or you know i mean i just i don't i don't put that much that emphasis on it i don't think it's a shot Now, Jay could hear that bar and his ear perk up like, what are you talking about? But I don't think that he takes that like, Jay don't, like Cole don't think that he's one of the grates or not. Like, I don't think it's that type of shot. I don't think it's, you know, disrespect intended or trying to say that Jay isn't a rap god or something like that.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Like, I just feel like, you know, that was just an emotion he may have had, you know, at that time. Like you said, he's writing it from his perspective. So I just think that was an honest, honest emotion he had behind. Jay's career at that point. I think Jay is very much like Cole when it comes to the way that his brain works and the way that they
Starting point is 00:36:23 use the way they rap basically and use words to tell a story. I think Jay knew exactly what the fuck Cole was saying and I think it aligns a lot with what Rory is. I'm sure Jay heard that the first time
Starting point is 00:36:35 and got it. I'm sure he looking on the internet because Jay do be on the internet look out and I don't know what these nics talking about. I'm sure Jay got it the first time. That's my take on it. I think Jay looks at it the way Rory does, honestly.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And I'm sure I've heard that before we heard it. Yeah. Also that. I'm sure that was emailed him well before. And I'm sure he replied with this is fire. Yeah. But yeah, I'm excited. I hope we get some more records before the sixth.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I hope it's not just this and then we wait. Like I hope he keeps putting out music. I like that type of rollout. Yeah. I do. I have been thinking about how you said that you think we might get a bop. and I would really appreciate a jet. Like that's got me like my wheels turning in my head about it.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And if it was some shit that I could stand on a club couch and scream, like when it came, that would make me very happy with Cole. I need that. I haven't had that in a very long time. I don't know why y'all think that. I don't think that's even his approach with this album right here. I don't think it's his approach either, but I would like one. The one of the snippets.
Starting point is 00:37:37 The one that came out after the disc two track two. Yeah. That's potential bopness. I don't know where they're going with it. It had a little boppiness to it. You're talking about just the music. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah, like something that could play when you're outside, when you're at mirror doing your thing. That place will never see me again. And you know that. Doing your thing is still funny. Don't tell me I'm going to be doing. You just told me that was a bunch of fine women in there all hanging out with their girlfriends and no niggas and you telling me you ain't going to be back.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Oh, yeah. I'm not going back. I don't, you know, I don't go out. I don't go to places like that. You always say he'll go out. But yet always have a story about it. I don't go up. When is the last time I was out before that?
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Starting point is 00:45:24 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last month, when one of the other homeboys was in town, you know, that she's just making shit up. None of my home boys
Starting point is 00:45:37 was in town last month. Now you just make, she freestown. Look how fast she stopped. You know, I don't really be like paying attention to you like that. But you did say at one point,
Starting point is 00:45:45 didn't he say he went out sometime last in December? Maybe. I remember. You know, I didn't say that. You don't have to agree with her. I did not say I went out. You may have went out.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I don't know. No. I'll tell you when I go out. Oh, no, you told me you went out of date. I definitely last month. Dad, I don't remember. Yeah, like, what did she? The matter, stop freestyle.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I didn't never told you that. My bad, that was off my time. Exactly. Instead of going out. I guess it depends the date. Yeah. Going out with me is going out. We out.
Starting point is 00:46:09 We outside. If we're going out of date, we outside. I can't do it. Do other cities do that? Like in New York, if you go on a date, you're going to seven spots and coming home before I am. On a date? Yeah. Damn, seven spots on a date?
Starting point is 00:46:22 You like her, for real. I got to find out. Taking seven different spots? Not in this time. It's usually three. It used to be three. Like three spots. Seven different spots.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Seven is a lot, but it used to be like three. Three spots. Is it summertime and you're in Brooklyn? Oh. Five minimum. I don't know about that. My last date. On a date.
Starting point is 00:46:39 On a date. On a date. Five spots. You start out, maybe you guys do brunch for the date and then you have the whole day. Yeah, all right, there's a barbecue here. Let's go here. All right. Okay, so there's this free game.
Starting point is 00:46:50 There's this spot. Hold on. You said brunch. Barbecue. What are we going out today? A bar. Like a little bar. Because it would be multiple day party.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Going from a barbecue to a day party is absolutely not happening. Why are y'all? Those can be in reverse too in New York summers. Like there could be the day party you go to. You could do sons of Essex. You'd be like, yo, there's a barbecue at night in Brooklyn. And we don't want to go home. So let's just, we're going to hop.
Starting point is 00:47:19 We're going to bar hop. We're going to stop at this homie house. We're going to, niggas just be outside. Especially if you like that. No, no, no, no. You're changing it. And when you're young, niggins be outside.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'm talking to a date where you're taking a woman that you're talking to. Y'all going on a date. You tell them you're going to five different spots in one day. I think the most I've ever done on a first day. I did like three, four in New York. If that first meal goes good, yeah. Come with me. Because I don't, we don't want to.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I'm not going home with you, but I don't want to leave you. Yeah. That's usually what that is. Like, I'm not going home with you, but I don't want to leave you and we're having mad fun. So. Yeah, but. Let's go to dinner.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Then we're going to stop. Go smoke hookah somewhere. Get another, like, get a little drink. Like, yeah, you move. End up on some Brooklyn rooftop. Three spots is okay. I feel like three is good for like five. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:48:05 We in a relationship. Now we just trying shit. That's fun. That's fun. But Ma, you don't have the patience. You don't have patience in here, baby. Three spots I could do with a woman. Easily.
Starting point is 00:48:14 We can hit three spots. Five. What are we doing? And what time is it? Get back at four. And usually those dates are not even ones that are set up too fuck. Like you'll be exhausted. If you're going to five spots, you guys are just having a good time.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Five spots. She's going to be slumping the Uber by five. Five spots in one day is crazy. Like, it's like we're, y'all just said barbecue to a day party. Stop freestyling. Nobody's going to, the day party is the barbecue. Nobody's going to a barbecue. Like, yo, they haven't a, what's the, what's the day party we love?
Starting point is 00:48:46 is all my people Everyday people Ain't nobody going to a Cookout Ain't nobody going to a barbecue They're going to everyday people That don't happen I 100% went from everyday people
Starting point is 00:48:57 To a barbecue that was like a couple blocks away Yeah, I'm not gonna lie I've been to Everyday people is the barbecue I don't went from Ducey Palluzza to another barbecue Yeah I've done that and I was working
Starting point is 00:49:10 Y'all were crazy It's no way I'm leaving That ming is through a boat party after Ducey Pallusa. It's sick. And then we just trying to collapse and we went out again after they docked the boat.
Starting point is 00:49:22 There's been plenty of times where I've hit three spots and like, fuck it, we'll go to lot 45 at midnight. Y'all are crazy. I'm not doing five spots in one day. And then you got to end it
Starting point is 00:49:31 with the strip club. Strip club is the last spot of the night. That's the person I hate in the crew as I. All right. So, so. Yo, it's guys, it's done.
Starting point is 00:49:38 It's clip. Nope. Nope. Nope. So walk me through that. Five spots on a date. How do y'all then, like,
Starting point is 00:49:44 how does the night end? Like, how does it end? After going to five spots with somebody, you just spent, let's say, 12 hours with this person. It takes one brave soul to be like, no, we're not doing that. No, no, I'm talking about just you and lady that you're, okay. How does that night end? Well, usually after you're linking with people, like you know people at those spots and then your crew just gets added on per spot. Is it bigger and bigger? I get that part. Like, you start as two and end is 13. And there's some people, some people from the, some people from the first link start dropping off.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah. Or some people from the first link end up meeting you at the fifth one because they went somewhere else and then they picked up to other people. So, yeah, it's... Our friends are good for that time. I understand all of that. I'm talking about the woman that you went on a date with. How do y'all end your night?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Usually just going to sleep. She'll either go home. We'll go our separate ways or we'll go and literally go to sleep. Yeah. Like nobody's giving rounds after... If I'm taking you to five spots and you don't met my homies, my home girls, and we've been out 13 hours, you've been outside. You're not going home.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You're coming home with me. It was so bad at one point. We've been together now. We're just going to go home. Netflix. Go out separate ways. Either I'm leaving here with something. Netflix.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Like we just, we just Netflix. You're crazy. I'm not going to five spots. You can rub bellies after. It's just not going to be like an exciting fucking time. It's going to be a hey, I'm very time. No, that's when you, that's when you, by that time,
Starting point is 00:51:05 y'all get so drunk and so tired, y'all just go home and fall asleep. Y'all wake up in the morning and have the best sex here. Yeah. You wake up at 5, 6 a.m. and have the best sex year. But you go home. And that hangover start creeping. Yeah, you go home.
Starting point is 00:51:16 It sounds like we didn't get home to 5 o'clock. Yeah, exactly. What you mean? We go to sleep, wake up as 5 o'clock. See, I don't like doing that at night. I like doing that during the day. Same. Like, we don't went out to brunch starting at 12 o'clock
Starting point is 00:51:28 and then we out till 6 p.m. Yeah. I'm on that. I'm not mad at that. That I'm not mad at. But that don't even sound like 5 o'clock. Because we got the brunch at 12, right? One.
Starting point is 00:51:39 We did for about 2, 2 and a half hours. Who is at brunch for 2 and a half hour? No, we're efficient. The right spot? You must be at Woodland. No, the right spot? If you're in the right spot, nice restaurant, good vibe, good food,
Starting point is 00:51:49 yeah. You can be there for two hours for sure. Certain brunch tables and dikemen have like an eight-hour time frame. Yeah, like you could go to a nice spot and meet it for two hours easily. Yeah, but not if we plan on doing other shit. We're going to be here for like an hour,
Starting point is 00:52:01 hour and a half max. Go to the next spot. We got some people meeting us at the end of brunch. About 30 minutes. He said an hour and a half max. All right. So come me about 30 minutes. Cool.
Starting point is 00:52:12 230. Where are we going from there? everyday people. How long we had everyday people for? Three. Now, you got a
Starting point is 00:52:19 pregame before everyday people. So you're going to pregame We just left brunch. But I'm not, okay, but it's 12 o'clock. I'm not getting.
Starting point is 00:52:25 So a social. Yeah. I'm not saying you've got to take a whole bunch of shots, but like maybe whatever friend lives closest to everyday people, we don't go to their spot.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Brunch was great. I'm texting the group chat. Like, oh, shit went cool. She's coming with me. Then everyone clowns you, says that's your girl, this and that. You walk in,
Starting point is 00:52:40 yo, we heard so much about you. This is the one. All right, what time is it now? That's two o'clock when we pregame it. We go to everyday people at three. So we're there chilling. So already, by the time we get everyday people, we had the third spot. And we were demarice.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So we get right in. So we don't even wait. So we had everyday people for what, two hours, three hours? Yeah. Three. So it's what? Six o'clock now? Six, seven.
Starting point is 00:52:59 All right. Then what? Then we got to get some food. Yep. Got to eat again. Okay. We got to get some food. So now it's dinner.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Now we're going to, now we're going to, what's a piece of spot? He played a NFS with us. so we're going to get pizza not dinner cuts and slices cut some slices fuck you Roberto's Roberto's wherever y'all want to go with wine
Starting point is 00:53:18 having a couple glasses of wine at Roberto with a shot so no food we're going to drink again no we're gonna have must say we just did brunch we do it to a homie's house pregame
Starting point is 00:53:28 everyday people we definitely drink there and then we got food but somebody buy around the shots for the time this is what shit get out of hand because you're no longer ordering drinks the people that you don't pick up with and that you run it into the spot
Starting point is 00:53:39 nix's like, yo, I just bought a lot of shots. And you over here like, yo, bro, I can't. I can't do it. No more shots. I'm drunk. You still drinking. So now your liquor don't re-up. You don't recharge the liquor because that one shot just plug the battery in and reactivated
Starting point is 00:53:52 all the other shots you had. Science. So now you reactivated again. You like, aye, fucking niggas. Like, yo, we out to the next spot. Next thing you know you at Saharis. Next thing you know you at fucking the strip. Like it just moves.
Starting point is 00:54:04 You never, you don't know. That's how the night gets away with you. When you were a baddie. I'm just trying to create a timeline. When you with a batty. Y'all just naming spots and they telling me what time we're going to these spots. It depends. We're done with dinner seven.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Seven. Done with dinner at seven? Yeah. That don't even match up to what we was just talking about. You said we leave everyday people at six. We're going to getting pizza. Yeah, seven, seven. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:26 So pizza at seven. Then what? This way to get tricky. Depends who got most. Then what we doing. It depends on who got the most motion. Live show is crazy. Live show.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Leon Thomas in town. We got his tickets. You can fuck out of him. That's not a real day, man. That is a real day. Put it out. You niggas ain't never went to brunch. More, I live.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Pre-game at your man crib. Go to everyday people. Go get dinner and then go see Leon Thomas. That has never happened. My stomach hurt. Look at peace. We lived a decade like this. Bro, y'all are lying, though.
Starting point is 00:55:00 No. Nobody has done. What I'll say is that I don't live like that. I'm actually underselling. I don't live like that in my 30s, but 20s. I definitely lived like that. I definitely lived like that. It wasn't every day.
Starting point is 00:55:11 It was like Saturday you would do it. Like every time. This wasn't Mondays was Sunday. Bro, me and Rory go out. Me and Rory hit three spots alone and that ain't my home. What time is Leon on stage? What time is Leon on? Openers at 8.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So we get there 8, 15, 8.30. Leon come out at 9. I bet. So at 9 Leon is on. Then what? Leon is on for about an hour. So after party. Yeah, Leon has an after party in the venue.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And then he also has one at another venue after. And Austin is doing the Oculus at 2 a.m. this is a New York City summer, ball. That's not real. I promise you, we used to do this religious. He said that ain't real.
Starting point is 00:55:46 You know, now we have so much more fun than people that just go to the club all night. We got to do it for Patreon. We got to try to hit six spots for Patreon. Yo, one of the nastiest days that I did that, Demaris has photo evidence
Starting point is 00:55:57 of me holding a Bel Air Rose bottle that she always puts in the chat to laugh at me. We had a flag football game in Dykeman in one part. We all got in Cavs and went from Dykeman to bedstye to a day party. Ass is stinking. In our uniforms.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Stinking. Just stinking the spot up. Then stayed at the day party, did two barbecues, and I don't even know what the time I made at home. And then I think we did the D.L. that night. No, we went to house. Then we went to house. Nobody took a shower from the football game?
Starting point is 00:56:29 No. Stanking. Niggas is walking to every spot. Funky. Stinking. Niggas got turf stains on them. Yeah. Stinking.
Starting point is 00:56:36 You all are crazy. Yeah, best. Smell like belly and turf and ass. You all are crazy as fuck. But I mean, I've definitely had some nights where we go out early, one, two o'clock and I don't get home to about two in the morning. I've definitely done it. But we ain't hit five spots. We was in one spot for like six hours and the next spot for like four hours.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I mean, shit, more, when you came to Dallas with us for Palooza, we did that. We stayed like an extra day and just went to like six spots in Dallas. I don't remember that. Went to day parties, went to dinners. Well, no, but yes. That's like, but that was a Sunday, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:10 So that's what you're doing on Sunday. You go out early, you just hit a couple spots. And I'm not hitting five. I didn't hit five spots. I'll tell you that. Me and Salas did. Fuck, no. I'm not doing five spots.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Not me. Can't do it. Well, people have been reminiscent on the 2016. That was, those was 2016 days. 100% 2016 days. What is that about? I just caught. It was a year, man.
Starting point is 00:57:31 It was a year. Is it like the 10 year anniversary? That's why? Yeah. It's just for some reason. And I guess just just, just by pure statistics, I feel like everyone I've ever met has never had a complaint like about 2016. Like everyone had a good year. I think it was the last year that everyone was like,
Starting point is 00:57:49 yo, that year was great, man. Damn, that was the last year. Everybody felt like that. Everything kind of started to go down. 2017, 28, everything was cool, but it wasn't like summer 16. Wasn't like that. And then 2020, and I mean, now we just live in the matrix. But yeah, 2016, at least for people in my age group, that was like, it was a year for us. That shit, I was doing that. Collectively. I was doing that fucking going through them pictures and shit. Think about my memories.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I saw I've been letting the same nigga piss me off for a decade. That shit crazy as fuck. Same nigga been pissed me off 2016. Piss me off yesterday. That shit is crazy. I like, see, I fuck with that. At least I'll be honest. Yeah, like that shit.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And I be over here like, now I grow every year, Ma. I grow every year. nigga pissing me off. Same niggins. That shit. She had like posting pictures from this year. 2016, Trent. Yo, you know why that's funny?
Starting point is 00:58:45 We only three weeks into this year. Like, fuck, that's it. And you've been in the hospital for most of them. That's why when she said she only did three things that she'd be going, I know she lying. That right there tells me you lie. No, it's not. No, it ain't.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Because when you're in the house and when you're in the house and you're in the house alone, you ain't got shit to do but think. you start thinking about. Just like me when you locked up. Yeah. Like that ass. Like I'm sitting here. I can't move.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I can't walk. I'm just in there like, yeah, she's start hitting you. Yeah. Yeah. Lig is calling you. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:59:16 yeah. Pissing me off. Yeah. Yeah. I can't let the same nigga piss me off for 10 years straight. That's crazy. I'm going on terrible, man.
Starting point is 00:59:24 That is some funny shit. That's a marriage. Like you married. Yeah. That's definitely a marriage. Like that's your husband. That ain't your, that ain't your boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:59:31 That's your husband on the phone. That's, that's, I'm cool. But I also bought the red hair back in honor 2016. That was my... In honor.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Your honoring 16 is hilarious. Yo, DeMaris, what is wrong with you? In honor, 2016. Yeah, what is wrong with you, don't. We're bringing that shit back, too. I don't know, man. Maybe I'm weird, but the pandemic was lit, man. I don't know about y'all.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Anyway outside of New York, the niggas did not close down at all. Niggas, a lot of people don't know what the pandemic was. I'm telling you. that. No, I know. Like, people that live in Georgia, people that live in Texas, people that live in Florida, they do not know anything like New Yorkers and California during the pandemic. They only found out when they got to the airport. They're like, oh, shit, something's going on.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, like, that shit was not, that shit did not affect some people at all. Like, they would say, like, fuck, I got to wear a mask in the airport. Damn. That shit was lit, man. I ain't going to lie. I enjoy traveling a little bit and going to different cities and seeing everybody completely still just like, that was like a fun time for me. I really, and then in New York, like, I'm always home, so I didn't really, I didn't really feel nothing during the pandemic. We spoke about that because obviously we were still pot, but yeah. Yeah. The pandemic wasn't as bad as people would make it same.
Starting point is 01:00:45 The pandemic? Oh, a lot of people died. People die every year, B. They'd be right. They'd be all right. They die every year, man. Have y'all Oh, they're dead? Have y'all listened to Don't be dumb? A-sap? Yeah. I don't know if I liked that reply. Yeah, I don't know if I listened to it.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Okay, did you like it? I did. I thought the music was really good. I liked the energy on there. The production was great. I mean, I'm never going to really love Rocky's rapping. I don't think that's what you listen to Rocky for, but the music was good. I definitely got some joints on there. There's some storker. His verse on that stop snitching joint is hard.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He went off. I love like Salt Walker, his style. He went off. Yeah, like, I was good though. I was actually like pleasantly surprised at how good I, well, how much I enjoy listening to it. The music was really good. Um, I got a little bit.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Stole your flow will probably play outside. because the music like the music is good I was quiet because I didn't want to come in here and like y'all clown me I think it's fucking great oh you think it's great I was so pleasantly surprised
Starting point is 01:01:52 not that I went in thinking that it was going to be trash but I didn't go in with expectations maybe the way I'll go into the falloff right the first half of this album is fucking incredible
Starting point is 01:02:06 he starts to experiment a little bit in the middle to end, but I'm not even mad at that. And then the end of it is incredible. Yeah. Like, I need to go through at least, like, some of the credits. Who produced this album?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Every beat on this is better than any beat I've heard all of last year. Oh, you're on hard for it. No, the production on this Rocky album is fucking amazing. That's the first thing. Like, I haven't really lived with it enough to really get into, you know, the lyrics and the words like that. But the music and the flows and things like that on the records, it's definitely like the music to me stood out.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Like it sounds, the album sounds good. And I'm with more. I never like looked at Rocky as like some super lyricist. I don't even think he would say that he's that. He's more about making a great record. It's some of the best rapping he's ever done. I love all the raps on it too. This is the best Rocky album probably since the first one.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I feel like that. I'm not, just listening to the music. I feel like that. Like it's definitely the best sound, the best music he's had in a very long time, without a doubt. There's not a... Even the experimental shit
Starting point is 01:03:11 is great. There's not a whack beat on this project. Everything is flawless production. IDK, you might be tripping with this one now. First of all, IDK, it's my guy. He tweeted,
Starting point is 01:03:23 Rocky in the new big three, hey to love it. You my guy, but nah. We fuck with you, but now. Yeah, but nah. You know, I've just spoke to IDK. I said next time he's in New York, you should come on the show.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Nah. Rocky, if you want to get into, like influence. We've talked about this before though. Rocky has a lot of kids out here. If you're saying like Big Three of strictly influence and where you see their DNA, you could put Rocky in that type of conversation.
Starting point is 01:03:51 But in Big Three, no. He said in the new big three. So who's the new big three? Also I think Rocky's been away for too long and he's had a career for too long to be in the new big three. Who would the new big three be? Right. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. because I thought people considered the new big three
Starting point is 01:04:10 to be like Tyler Oh, if that's the case then Rocky and Tyler Tyler Travis and like who like Playboy Cardi. But Playboy Cardi is Those are all his sons right here. The Mrs. Children. Not Tyler but definitely the other two.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah. I mean shit, Stole your flow is about Travis being my son. Yeah. So I mean. But I mean, hold on because I love Tyler. But I could see a little rocky influence in Tyler, though. I always felt like the ASAP crew in Odd Future were perfect mirrors of the kids from those cities at that time.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Like ASAP was a perfect, I'm going to say metaphor, but like if you just looked up what Harlem was at that time, those kids would be the picture in the dictionary. And if you're looking at more of the alternative underground, things are. switching from just gangster rap in L.A. to other shit, that whole odd future collective was that. There are mirrors of each other in different coasts. So, no,
Starting point is 01:05:21 I wouldn't say that they're Tyler's, is Rocky's son at all in that regard. Not his son, but I'm saying the influence. I could see some of Rocky's influence. I think I hear some of Tyler's influence in the production on this project. I think they're friends that influence each
Starting point is 01:05:37 other for sure. But to what you're saying, know, to me, again, I haven't lived with the album enough yet to really get into the raps like that as far as the lyrics. But music, the music, this is definitely some of the best music that I've heard from Rocky in a very long time. The album sounds really good. It's, and again, I'm only like three listens in, but I can't think of a, outside of the clips album, I haven't had like a good in the car album in a long time.
Starting point is 01:06:06 This album is perfect for riding in the car. Like if you just need something to put on and it's going to sound good throughout the entire time, no matter what type of speakers you have while you're driving traffic, highway, anywhere, this is the album for you. It's a perfect driving album. Okay. I'm going to check it out. I think Rocky over fucking delivered on this.
Starting point is 01:06:28 It's such a good album. The music is good. I ain't a lot. Definitely listening to the music is definitely, you know, his best music in a very long time. And it's a double disc. Yeah. It is. I love it.
Starting point is 01:06:42 The second disc is only like, it's like two songs in a video, I think, I think on the second disc. Like, so I don't know if it's double disc, but yeah. I'm on Apple Music, which between Apple Music and Spotify is the prime distribution of the music industry. I see disc one and I see disc two. So now we have to compare fall off versus, you know, which disc you like better. You don't have to do that.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Making double for double. two songs is fucking nuts. Crazy. But he got his double. He's up there with the ghost. He got his double rock. He got his double now. Ti is making a comeback too.
Starting point is 01:07:19 How do you guys feel about that? Have you heard it? I listened to the snippet. As of this recording, there's only been the snippet. He's only been the snippet. Okay. The snippet sounds fucking great. It sounds really good.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I love that Ross record that Farrell did, that kind of just went under the radar because the clips overtook everything. I like that Farrell is going back and working with artists from that era. And I mean, T.I obviously didn't get to start with Farrell, but Farrell was early. In getting him to the masses.
Starting point is 01:07:49 That song is out, baby. Oh, it did come out? Okay. Well, I have not heard the full one, but I did love the snippet. Okay. We'll check it out. We'll come back in, let you guys know how it is. Yeah, I was thinking when I saw that snippet,
Starting point is 01:08:01 it was while I was thinking about all the kids that Rocky had. Um, T.I could at Grand Hustle could have been one of the biggest labels of the, like, early 2010s if things panned out contractually. He found Meek Mill. Mm-hmm. Then Meek ends up going to MMG. He found Travis Scott.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Mm-hmm. Travis Scott was on Grand Hustle. Mm-hmm. Ends up going to good music. Iggy, I'm not trying to make a joke. Let's not act like she ain't have a fucking time. She did. If that was played a little bit differently and Q-Tib didn't ruin her career on Twitter and then she went on OnlyFans.
Starting point is 01:08:40 A lot of hypotheticals here. I'm just saying of the talent. I was ready to. You got at least three more you can name too. But I always felt B-OB didn't get a fair shake, but definitely had. Big records. Big, big, big records. Like, Grand Hustle, when you look at it with who they had signed.
Starting point is 01:09:00 It's a label that I don't think people bring up ever. And it's like, dude, look at the rock. they did have at one point. A ball, and a lot of them were signed at the same time. A ball, MJG, BG, B-G, B-O-B, Chip, Diamond, DJ Drama, Killer Mike, Meek Mill, OMG, Rich Kids, Travis Scott, Young, L.A. And the majority of them were signed all at the same time. That's not bad.
Starting point is 01:09:22 But see, that's why it goes back to what I always say about Wayne. When you're an artist and you're stealing, like, because at that time, Tia was still in his prime, it's hard to have a label and to really focus and get other talent off like that. So for Wayne to be able to do what he did with Nikki and Drake, which is why I always praise Wayne for that, he had to completely remove himself. If you heard a record, because, Roy, you know how this shit go.
Starting point is 01:09:48 You hear a record from an artist you signed to. First thing, if I'm in my prime, first thing I'm saying, I need that. I got to get on that. Putting that on my shit. Your artist still gets, to look because he's on the song, but it's like, I'm the main character here, and I'm still in my prime. So, you know, T.I had all of these talents, but at the same time, T.I was focused
Starting point is 01:10:11 on T.I. The artist at that time. Wayne was at the height of his, it was in his prime. He signs Nikki and Drake and a whole bunch of other acts, and he removed himself completely and was like, nah, let them get off. Like, I don't, like, it's daytime. A lot of artists are not doing that. And And that's why probably a lot of these acts that could have been, I mean, A-Boh and J-G, even when T.I had them, they were already legendary. Yeah, it was like when G-U-N-N-N-It signed. Yeah, they were already legacies at that point. But, you know, the other guys, the MEEC, so we don't know what happened with that. I'm sure he spoke on that.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I just can't remember. Yeah, I just can't remember what happened with that. Travis Scott. I even think, like, T.I. did the noble thing with Travis Scott. I think the Meek thing was, he was, like, announced but not signed on paperwork. So it was a little easier. I'm pretty sure Travis Scott was signed, sign, and T.I just did the honorable thing.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Like, if you don't want to be here and Kanye is like your idol, like go be great with what you want to do here. Oh, a lot of it, they said, was due to T.I.'s legal tropos and incarceration. He was unable to really do anything. And I'm sure he was an only person on a label that had those issues. Yeah, I'm going to just go ahead and guess some other niggas had some legal issues on the label.
Starting point is 01:11:24 No, I mean, like, I'm saying, during T.I.'s legal issues, he couldn't. Yeah, during T.I.'s legal issue, he couldn't help anybody on his label because he's trying to survive. Yeah. No, I get that. But yeah, I mean, again, had that, you know, T.I. with all the legal stuff he was going through, had that not happen? I think, grand hustle the label looks a little different. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Oh, come on, fan. You think? Travis Scott? No, I'm saying. It's managed differently. He focuses more on me and Travis. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But no, you are right about that because even, like, we'll put another dollar in the,
Starting point is 01:11:59 the JZ jar. We should make a JZ jar here every time he's brought up. It's like the square jar. When Cameron took the old boy beat from Just Blaze. And Hove came in and was like, why didn't you play that for me? He signed to you.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah. Yeah. What I'm supposed to do? This still helps you. Yeah. But Hove was in the prime. Like, nah, I need that Pete. Yeah, but that's how it goes.
Starting point is 01:12:21 If I'm, if I'm the, you signed to me, and I'm still the biggest artist on the label, y'all in the studio every day and y'all catch one? come on fam come on fam like get that to me y'all stay i can still get y'all still get y'all on the record you i still gonna get y'all barge off but like i think jay would have did with old boy as far as what raps well no there's an old boy verse and cameron told guru uh erase that shit erase that shit
Starting point is 01:12:49 i'm still get a radio yeah there is a j z old boy verse you know what i feel like no it never no one's besides guru and camera i heard i that rumor before, though. Yeah, gurus talked about it, Cam's talked about it. Yeah, erase the shit. Must have been fire. Erased this shit.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Ain't that what 50 did the Beyonce with the, um, in the club remix? Beyonce's in the club remix? Which in the 50's in the club? Yeah. Y'all haven't heard of it? I never knew that.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Yo. I probably read that and just like, didn't even want to like. Make sure I have the right song. I'm almost positive. Yeah, the Beyonce. How y'all never heard this? It's Beyonce.
Starting point is 01:13:32 We're gonna party. Like, it's shirr'r'r. This would be like a cool remix. On a mix date. Yeah, like. I'm the classic mommy with the Maryland moral body. I'm that fly chick, she's getting old.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah, her fabulous, glamorous, except burliness. Makeup, like it with my pastel louis, design a scarf, work, a rock and vintage cuisine. Betty Black Vick's
Starting point is 01:14:06 I hate her Sex and a little thug That's what it was called Sexy little thug No it would be called In the hug Yeah I'm so glad we got out of
Starting point is 01:14:19 In the club Sipping on Bub shit I hate it sipping on bug You Your family adventure I hate it when the nigga says Sipping on Bub Sipping on Bub
Starting point is 01:14:28 I hate that line Sipping on Bub I'm so glad we move fast that shit Sipping on Bub right now Sipping on bub and i can give you some ex if you're undertaking drugs tom i hated sipping on bub bubub i hated when it sounds like all bram fever it doesn't i hated that i never like when niggins said bub yeah i never like that um i had no idea that that existed so that was supposed to be a remix no i think bianne
Starting point is 01:14:52 just made her own little version or like she had that dray beat before no i think she was made her own little it was it in the club was already big i think when she did a cover like she did like a cover But he like, I thought she had the record. I thought she had the record. No, she blocked it everywhere. And then she had laid to it and then like never did not with it. And then 50 got it and put something out.
Starting point is 01:15:11 That's what I thought you were saying. But that right there. Yeah, Beyonce was doing that. No, she got off on that for sure. I could have seen that Beyonce bop working a little bit though. Because that was after like Dre did the Mary Jay family affair shit. Like those type of Dre beats were working with with pop stars. Beyonce got off on that though.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yeah. I'm shocked. I never heard that. But I don't know. Well, we always said Beyonce rap better than a lot of niggas, though. Yeah, when she gets her rap bag, she's there. Shit, that story that, um, Lady Gaga was supposed to be on Kendrick. What?
Starting point is 01:15:50 Bitch don't kill my vibe. Lady Gaga was supposed to be on bitch, kill my. She was. You can find the, you can find it on YouTube. So hide a Lady Gaga. she's going to get on the Kendrick's, I guess, technical first album, if you don't count Section 80. It exists. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And when I heard that story, I was like, damn, that's a bold move to take her off the hook and just keep yourself there. Oh, she just did the hook? Yeah. Then I heard her version of it when it leaked at whenever like an interview, I don't know if a punch, somebody had talked about it. And then I heard it and I was like, yeah, they made the right fucking call. I've taken it on over it. Hell yeah. like it's a completely different
Starting point is 01:16:29 song. You're like, no, no, no, turn out. Stop, stop, stop. Turn out, turn out, turn out. So, but yo, you got to, like, whatever I am a sinner, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. No, Kendrick, you did the right.
Starting point is 01:16:50 It wasn't EQ, yo, wasn't EQ. Don't tell me something wasn't EQ'd. I don't care what wasn't EQ, yo. That ain't it. That's not the vibe. That's not the energy. That's not the right texture. She came in there with too much vibrato. Like it's just like, no, no, no, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Let the center run to. Yeah, we're not doing that. Just, just, yeah, turn it off. Trying to over sing it. Yeah. But, I mean, that was that era when, you know, you were the blog era where the song and were trying to, like, over sing everything. It was like, that's not this type of music.
Starting point is 01:17:18 It's not that. But, you know, you have to give them credit. Because imagine being not Kendrick Lamar. You, Kenny from Compton. You, KD, you're trying to get out of your situation. debut album, the biggest artist, period. at the time is lady gaga i get it you go it ain't it man i give him so much but i respect yeah i respect that i really respect that because you definitely want a gaga feature i mean what artists
Starting point is 01:17:43 don't but if it sound like that like nah though it's like nah that's not this it's just it's not the right it's not the right it's not the right it's not the right it's not the right you know what i'm so it's like i not this we can't god no disrespect we can't do this one but we can find another one yeah but this ain't it uh and from my understanding you was pretty fucking offended by it. I mean, I can understand that. Artists that big and at the time Kendrick is not, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:09 who he is today. Gaga could look at that like, I'm doing you a favor. Like, I'm giving you a look. Yeah, I mean, I think if Kendrick now took it off, she would respect it more because now he's way more established than he was while making Kid Mad City. But even then I feel like Lady Gaga who came up in the
Starting point is 01:18:25 fucking village underground scene could respect that of an artist. Like, as particular as she, is about her art. Yeah, somebody else is going to be particular as well. It would shock me that she would get offended by that, but that was the rumor that she was like, are you fucking serious? Well, I'm looking at Kendrick's interview
Starting point is 01:18:42 in the fader. Well, he told a complex, actually. He said that they didn't manage to get it recorded on time. Her part wasn't full on time. So it's just the business side coming through, messing things up. But, you know, it's God's plan. I'm not really too tight about it because I know we have something special. And then Gaga released
Starting point is 01:18:57 her mix of the track where she handled the hook. That's the PR version. There's another interview with somebody from TDE. That came from Interscope. Sent that out. There's the real version of them going, nah. I'm cool. That ain't it.
Starting point is 01:19:13 That ain't it at all. Yeah, that wasn't it. I never even heard that. As soon as you played that just now. Also, one of my favorite YouTube videos, like in regards to Don't Kill My Vibe, another dollar in the JZ jar, he's on the remix, when they bring Kendrick in the studio and they have like the hidden camera in top just he just thought he's walking the studio
Starting point is 01:19:33 he didn't know that he was walking in to be played Jay-Z on his remix you just sitting down like by the control board and somebody hit play and you just hear whole verse on your on your song like all right man
Starting point is 01:19:48 I was scream what the fuck is going on? You know exactly what's going on life is about to change think you they're about to start talking to me different yeah mister in front of my name yeah Mr in front of my name
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Starting point is 01:26:15 Well, Damaris was, while we were all loving the ASAP Rocky album, Damaris has had the Northwest record on repeat. Yeah. Her crew. Yeah. Them Oxy's going nuts. I'm very, I'm very proud of all seriousness, North released a song and or a snippet of a song where she, her, I guess, they said that she produced it and she recorded it. She produced it and she wrote it. And it sounds good for her to be what?
Starting point is 01:26:43 I think she's like, what, 12 or something like that? It sounds good. I'm surprised you guys haven't heard it. No, I heard the same. You're dropping soul like a dad. I'm sure she didn't do it all on her own, but she might have possible. Most of time. Pirsing on my hand.
Starting point is 01:27:05 The other phone and bands. No friends. Just fancy want to understand. Pause. On a vultures won her record, she got off on that. Like, anytime North has done music, it sounded great. I think it's so good for, like, for her age. Like, for her, like, her, that's something her friends would play even if she didn't make it.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Do you, does that make sense? I think that that's so cool. I really want to look forward to her to continue to grow into who she's becoming and getting better. I think it's very adorable. I mean, how old is North, though? North has to be 12. Is she not in high school yet, is she? No.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Um, she's 12, yeah. Middle school. Okay. I mean, her dad is a musical genius and her mother understands visual aesthetic probably better than anybody in the modern era. She has some pretty good genes. She's got a good shot.
Starting point is 01:27:53 She's got a good shot to make you. She's going to be somebody now. I don't know what she's going to do, but she's going to be somebody. Like, we're going to be reading about North somewhere. Like, she ain't going to be behind 7-Eleven to ask you to buy her a bid. That ain't going to happen. She's on the right track.
Starting point is 01:28:07 But a lot of people do end up behind stuff. with famous parents who end up behind 7-Eleven by asking to buy you a beer. Like, that happens. Yeah, but not North, though. That ain't going on. No, no, my Kanye or daddy. Kanye will shut down every 7-Eleven in the country, if that ever happened. He will buy every 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 01:28:21 That's not happening. We know, he's not doing that. But, yeah, that's cool. And then tell us who controls the 7-Eleven. That's cool to hear, you know, the kids that we watch literally grow up, like, growing to themselves and have their own personalities and dreams. And so that's dope. Because she could have been asked.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Like, Rory, like, you'd be having them are on the boards. Like, what if she asks? Like, if she ends up? up being ass. Are you going to tell her she asked? I love this hypothetical we have here. Like, why couldn't we go the other way? Like, yo, what if Amar is amazing? How will you harness that greatness and get
Starting point is 01:28:49 her to the next level? No, yeah, we know all that. We know all that. But like, what if she turns? Like, what if she brings some shit? What if she's fucking awful, depressed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if she got? I still love her the same. I would still love her the same. I'm saying as far as career, if she wanted to go into your career, if she wanted to start a podcast,
Starting point is 01:29:04 if she wanted to produce records, and she just wasn't good. I would let her fail and if she still had a passion for it, that means there's room for improvement. Aww. So, yes, she can continue to fail as long as she's passionate about it. Yeah, of course I keep encouraging. Everyone sucks at everything in the beginning. But like, what if it's like, what if we hit in like 35 and she still suck?
Starting point is 01:29:25 Well, that's a different. It's a different conversation. Is it, Dad, you got to have it, though. I would have had that conversation before 35. I'm sure you of that. Yeah, you're like, you know what, sweetie, this is not, we should look at something else. Right. Got the right energy, but let's, let's point that energy somewhere.
Starting point is 01:29:39 else though. Yeah, I mean, but also like with some of the celebrity kids, I almost feel like social media is like good for them in a weird way. Because all the other celebrity kids at the coming up like were hidden up in the hills doing Coke at 12 years old. Like Northby on TikTok trying to get followers. Yeah. Like she's creative every day. As much as I shit on social media and I think it's going to ruin our youth. A lot of kids are finding creativity in the content that they're creating. Like, I've seen North, even like the basketball videos, she'd be on TikTok, like working on her handle. I think that will also help with the celebrity kids because they already have a following and it gives them an outlet where creativity can be rewarded.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Yeah. Instead of going to Hidden Hills parties at 13 and you're doing Coke with, you know, the creator of MASH or something. The creator of MASH. Look who you found out. I'm talking about, like, I'm trying to think of the old days, like the Drew Barrymore. but child star days. Yeah. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:30:42 I think a lot of the Nepo babies may be saved by social media because they will have to be so forward facing and can't really just be cracked out behind the scenes. I think that's good for adults too as far as hidden creativities, but I feel like adulthood kind of stumps out like your childhood dreams, like whatever you said you wanted to be when you were seven, like by the time you're like 21 and you got to pay bills,
Starting point is 01:31:04 like all of your creativity, unless you want to take the risk and become a creative, is like stomped out. And I feel like social media has given people a platform to share like, oh no, you didn't know, but I know how to draw. I know how to paint.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I know how to write. I know how to play music. Like I know how to do all of these things that I've never had anybody to share it with because the people around me don't give a fuck. So I can just share it with y'all. Yeah. And it kind of reignites that flame in them.
Starting point is 01:31:26 I think that that's really cool. Yeah. I mean, Neppo babies, there's rarely like a gray area. What you mean? It's either complete crashouts or I feel like equally or write a step below what their parents were.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Like you're never, you're never just out at a Starbucks and like having to meet someone. And they're like, yeah, I'm Jude Law's daughter. Like just some regular average person. It's either completely crash out or they're famous. Elon Musk is a son who transitioned to a woman. That might be the craziest nepo story ever.
Starting point is 01:32:03 I know nothing. Is that the one that's Control All Delete? What's their name? her name is it's just a noise right it's like something like that Vivian Wilson Vivian oh never mind
Starting point is 01:32:15 pretty average we can come back in keep all that you want to keep that yeah okay all right no Vivian okay well he does have some kids that have some wild names right yeah okay but Vivian
Starting point is 01:32:26 is his son who transition is now a woman Vivian Wilson you know Elon completely wrote her out of like any will and estate, anything. And Vivian doesn't give a fuck. Y'all know how much money Elon Musk's worth?
Starting point is 01:32:46 Just guess. Nah, but she's here for the vibe. I know, but just guess how much her daddy is worth. I don't think there's a dollar amount. Oh, she has a twin brother. That's rough. Wow. That's rough. Simon Cowell's not going to give no money to his kid.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Why? I don't know if I'd be pissed if Simon Cowell's my dad and they'd be no money like in comparison to Elon. I'm like, oh. Simon got money, though. Simon got money. But Elon would kill himself if he woke up in his accounts at 600. Yeah. Elon would kill himself.
Starting point is 01:33:16 He were going to the deepest depression you've ever seen. The parking spot for his rocket cost $600 million. Yeah, like it costs $600 million to gas up. One of his toys. That's his daily rate to park. Are you kidding? 600 million. Elon would kill him.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Like, what the fuck happened? Like, what? Oh, my Lord. Yeah, but that's like the craziest reverse Nepo, you know, because Vivian don't give a fuck. Vivian don't even want to be affiliated. I feel like there's probably nepo babies like that, though. That just want nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Yeah, but them nepo babies don't come from a daddy that got Elon money, though. Is money even a thing? But I was going to say when you're born into that amount of money, you don't value money. It's nothing to you. True. I get that part of it. But if your daddy is worth what Elon is worth, okay, if my daddy was worth with Elon is worth, I don't know if I'm going to just do anything to write myself out of that estate.
Starting point is 01:34:10 But some people are new, and they don't care about their rich father, and they just want to go skate with the twins in the South Side. You can still do that? Like, you can still do that? You can still go, you can still go skate with your friends of the South Side. And if she's queer, trans, then she's very, very ashamed to have Elon as her father anyway. So there's that as well. Money isn't worth it to her because he goes against him and she stands for.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I don't know. You know how many surgeries you can get with that Elon money? you could transition a whole country you could transition Mars technically you just think Vivian she played her hand the wrong way she could have still stayed in the state and got her dreams and goals off too though
Starting point is 01:34:51 like you know what I'm saying you guys don't find it funny that the person trying to inhabitate Mars cares about gender y'all don't find that ironic like y'all don't find that a little bit ironic that the guy trying to go to Mars cares about gender go worry about the aliens you worried about the wrong shit right now
Starting point is 01:35:07 Little fish, big pond Like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's a crazy world. Aliens on another planet. And then there's Nepo when like, say my dad like played in the NBA, but he wasn't that good.
Starting point is 01:35:23 And then like, I'm coming up and I'm like the number one pick The next prospect. It's like, no, but that was, the Dell was a Steph. That was a Steph. Of course not. But I'm just saying,
Starting point is 01:35:33 I'm talking about like nobody even remembers your dad. Okay, Rick Brunson, Jalen Brunson, right? Rick Brunson was, he was good. He was, he was a very, he was a journeyman, but, you know, he was, he was a journeyman. Yeah, like, he bounced around the league a little bit. Like, he didn't, you know, he didn't, he wasn't like a franchise player at any point. Popper was a rolling stone, you know. Yeah, same thing, same thing.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Just trying to find a spot where he could just be serviced. Whoever he laid his, just be serviced. Just be serviced. Just be served. Just be. Just, just, just, just. Rick Brunson was of service to a few NBA team. Yes. Got in there. He was up service. He was up.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Listen, no, that's all we're all trying to be is up service to something to somebody, right? Oh, my God. That's all. So Rick Brunson was of service to a few NBA teams throughout his career, right? Got a home girl. Never was like an all-star, never was, you know, a franchise player, never put the city on his back. Everything that his son turned out to do, right? Rick never did that.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Is that something, like, is Jalen Brunton a Nepo baby? No. I would say no. But he kind of is though. But he kind of is because he still had access to the NBA as a kid. He was still at the practice facilities. He was still around the game, learning the game, working out, things like that. You know, like develop relationships with people. Probably got to some camps because of.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Yeah. Probably got to a college. He probably went to Villanova because the guy at the team was in the NBA somewhere as a gym or something, knew his dad. Like I'm just saying there's still ways that Jalen benefited from his dad being an NBA player. His dad wasn't, you know, LeBron, but he was in the league and he was able, he had access. He was able to develop relationships and things like that. So, you know, but Jalen still had to be Jalen, though. See, okay, I think NEPO babies with athletics is, I think, a bit unfair.
Starting point is 01:37:30 This is just the AI definition. A NEPO baby. Oh, now you go to AI. Okay, good. Okay, I'll go to AI for definitions, not what it's like to feel horny, because I don't think AI has ever felt horny yet. No, we were talking about getting horny over trauma. A Nepo Baby is a person often in entertainment whose career success is attributed to their famous or influential parents' connections, implying they received unearned advantages or opportunity due to family privilege rather than sole talent.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Yes, he definitely got access to stuff based off his dad being there. but you can't make the league, you can be the 54th pick. That's as close as you can get to a Nepo baby in athletics. What pick was Jaylen? That's the only thing. Like, I don't feel like Brony was worth that pick. That to me was more Nepo baby,
Starting point is 01:38:21 but that's the only thing I can think of. Like the Nick. 34. Dallas isn't drafting him not based off his talent. No one is drafting any player that's not based off their talent. where you may get a role in a movie or get a feature you don't deserve.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Like something can happen based off your parents. But with athletics, you could either do the job or you can't. Yeah. Like no one was trying to draft Jeffrey Jordan. He was trash. So I don't know if you could call Nepo Babies in basketball. I think that's a little unfair.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Somebody had made a TikTok that said, it was actually, it was a comedy TikTok, but I get what they were saying. and they were like, we don't see any like young, beautiful, like, movie stars these days because all of the people in, like, movies and TV are nepo babies. And like, but they're not nepo babies of the stars. They're nepo babies of the people who belong behind the camera. And like you're giving off behind the camera jeans.
Starting point is 01:39:17 And the people that are supposed to be behind the camera are now like the stars. And that's why we got so many ugly movie stars now. And I was fucking crying. That's a hilarious take. But are they lying? Because the directors and cameramen and all, Their kids are now the movie stars. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:39:35 where's the bombshells? A movie star used to be like, if you were a movie star, you used to have to be a bombshell. Who are the bombshells that aren't black? Because the black girls be bomb shells. Okay, but, um, all right. There's a bombshell that's not black?
Starting point is 01:39:50 Like the TV and white, like who's the white bombshells? Because we used to have white bombshells in movies, like as main characters, actors and actresses. There's still a bomb show in movies? Where are there? Margo Robbie?
Starting point is 01:40:04 Margo, yes. I'm talking about, okay, Margot Robby is Barbie. She's like the exception, never the rule. That's what I'm saying, but she's a bomb shelter. Yes. Currently, who else? Because Margo's getting older. So, yeah, I'm still stuck in my mom.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Y'all know that's my white fire. I love her. I would convert to white women for her. I think Josh Allen's wife that was in, Haley, Haley. What's her name? Haley Steinfeld. I think she's, I think she's,
Starting point is 01:40:30 I think she could be the next one, the next bomb show. Okay. I mean, I don't want to, like, judge looks or whatever. But as far, I know you're saying bombshell in like a Cameron Diaz. Yes. That's so great. I was literally about to say Cameron Diaz. But, like, as far as, like, actresses, Judd Apatow's daughter is an incredible actress.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Like, she deserves all that nepo shit. She's amazing. You're talking about Maude. Yeah. I mean. Maude A lot. I know her face. So you're talking about just, like, beautiful.
Starting point is 01:40:57 She's pretty. She's not a bomb show, but. I'm talking about bombshells. But yeah, she's very. much a... Mark can act. Isn't that she was in
Starting point is 01:41:02 euphoria. Yeah. She's been in everything. Mm-hmm. She sees a really good actress. Is Zendaya
Starting point is 01:41:10 a mom show? In my opinion. Yes. But is she in Nepo kid? No. It's also not white. Like P. She says, it's also not white.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Well, that's because they're not hiring any whites anymore. D.E. D. D. Zendaya is a D.E.I. Actress? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Peter Parker would never be with a black woman. Yo. When the last time you watched that movie was Indeia and I don't want to say Denzo Washington, son. He even changed his name, so he's not Denzel Washington, Sonny. John David. John David. John David, Washington?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Probably since it came out, but that's a phenomenal movie. I watched it maybe two years after it came out and I watched. That shit is really good. No, they went crazy in that. Like I watched that like last week again, Malcolm and Marie. that shit is really good. People, I was actually talking, I had a conversation about that movie
Starting point is 01:42:07 with somebody the other day. People treat that movie, they either hated it or they loved it. I was one of the people who loved it. Yeah, I thought it was phenomenal. Because I think it was more about dialogue than a storyline. And I think the dialogue was really good.
Starting point is 01:42:19 The only thing is, and I agree with the person I was talking about, I mean, I was talking to, they said that Zendaya looks so young. It's hard to picture her as an adult woman having those conversations. But I'm like, she is supposed to be young. in the film. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:33 She looks, she looks, she does look young, but she's supposed to be a young girl in the film. I just don't think they had a lot of chemistry. That was my only really complaint about it. They didn't have a lot of chemistry. And that mac and cheese. That's the worst mac and cheese. Well, I mean, the mac and cheese is that was really the only critique
Starting point is 01:42:49 that. And they made a bowl of bullshit. That mac and cheese, when it came out, I spoke about that. I was like, yo, listen, I loved it. But that Mac. Win it an award and coming home and eating that is crazy. That is feeding your nigga out. He just won a crazy. award is like, you know, I'm about to leave you. That would have been my conversation.
Starting point is 01:43:05 You know what? He was tearing that shit up. He liked that. Well, some niggas like bullshit food. We know that. I hate when they're like, my girl could cook. Come over. My girl cook.
Starting point is 01:43:13 I'm like, where if she can cook? Yeah, come over. You go over thinking his girl could cook. You get there. You'd be like, yo, I ain't going to lie. Your girl got four trays of bullshit on that table. Yo. He took four hours cooking.
Starting point is 01:43:22 That shit is trash. Just baked chicken and she just put the cold barbecue sauce on. Big chicken. That shit. The skin ain't. She ain't like brawled enough to get crunchy. that shit just like It's just shrimp Alfredo
Starting point is 01:43:34 That shit trash Like me in here eating this every night Shrimp Alfredo but it's shrimp mad hard Overcooked orange It's from that same jar of Alfredo Just pour it in the taste levels Is different that's all This shit should taste levels
Starting point is 01:43:46 I don't want to say speaking of Nepo babies but I actually just Got put on to Infinite Coles I forget I really am not sure That's why I'm tips So I don't know if that, if she or he, I don't know what they identify as. Ghostface Child is an extremely, extremely talented artist.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I know they've had some, you know, they've had a rocky relationship that I wasn't aware until like I, you know, went on their page and started listening to their music of the history that they have with their family business that's been made public. I see people was killing us because we didn't ask ghost states about his relationship with his son. Well, one, I wouldn't have.
Starting point is 01:44:28 I'll start there. And number two, I was not fully aware of everything. I'll be honest, I did not pay attention. I don't know. I know that they don't have a good relationship. Like, they're not, don't have the healthiest of relationship. But I also like you, I wouldn't, I wouldn't ask nobody that about their children. Yeah, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:44:45 But they have incredible music, even one record that is dedicated to the situation. Sweet Face Killer. Yeah, with their. That's his name? No, name is Infinite Coles. is the name. And my bad, if I keep saying they and you don't identify as that, I just don't fucking know. I'm just trying to be polite.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Incredible artist. Like, you can hear all the influence from their pops in the raps, but from a, you can see it's like ghost-faced and Azalea Banks, like came together and created an album. Okay. And the EP is really good. So to me, that's great, Neppo Baby. shit. I don't know if they would consider Nepo Baby based off the stuff they put out in the relationship
Starting point is 01:45:31 but you know. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think Infinite is trying to use the relationship. The dad is the reason why they're in the industry or being an artist. I think it's the exact opposite actually. Fair. But since we're on that topic, I did want to bring up and highlight how good their music was. But so what's up with ludicrous, man. What's up on him? Why he canceled his
Starting point is 01:45:52 Rock the Country performance, man. So is rock the country Pulls out of kid. Okay, Ludacricks pulls out of Kid Rock's Maga Music Festival after Backlash. So essentially he saw Wait, that was the name of it, Maga Music? They're calling it that.
Starting point is 01:46:11 I believe it's really just called Rock the Country. But yeah, once he saw the lineup where everyone, I mean, I feel like if you see the Kid Rock is putting something together, you would. Yeah. You know the fan base. He's pretty vocal about his love for, for Big Don, but, you know, he saw, he saw what people were saying after.
Starting point is 01:46:34 That's all it came down to you. I don't like that, man. I'm sorry. I do not like that. I do not like when niggas do shit like that. I do. That shit is corny. Why is it corny?
Starting point is 01:46:43 Because you, you saw backlash online, so you like, oh, nah, I didn't know what it was my bad. Cut this shit, bro. Like, why are you letting a certain group of people online dictate what you do in your life? Like, that shit is stupid to me. As ludicrous? Come on, bro. You are way too established and got way too much positive shit going on and done it.
Starting point is 01:47:02 It was too much dope shit to have a few people online tweet shit or post shit to have you like, no, I'm not performing. Like, that shit is stupid. I would rather him not piss off his core fan base to go and, like, if this was Nelly, I could understand. But that ain't even your career. Like, you don't need to be at a fucking country music fest. That's not even your fan base.
Starting point is 01:47:24 So what's you doing that for? Them niggas know you from Fast and the Furious. Well, I think to what I think Mall is saying, I consider myself part of Ludacris' core fan base. I wasn't even aware he was doing this until he pulled out. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:39 And I wouldn't stop listening to Ludacris if he did this. Like, that's just stupid. Like, what are we talking about? Of course not. I don't think, I'm sure some people were threatening to stop listening to him, but I just don't also don't think it's necessary for him to do it.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Hank Williams Jr., Nepo, baby. I just think this shit is stupid. man. That shit is so disappointing to see Ludacris. Let her skaters so a lot. I don't know enough about the backlash that he was getting. But, I mean, listen, man, Nellie's going to get his Tim McGraw duet off
Starting point is 01:48:13 at Rock the country. For sure. It is. White's love ludicrous. Whites do love ludicrous. I will say that. Like, whoever put this lineup together, it's actually a little in touch of the two rappers that the whites from the country love is Nellie and Lus. shouldn't perform for his white fan base?
Starting point is 01:48:30 Like that's basically what they're saying. No, I don't think that that's basically I don't think that's what they're saying. So what are they saying? He performs for white people all the time. He'd be at my stater all the time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking I rock the country.
Starting point is 01:48:39 I forgot that. I'm talking about that festival. He did be doing the Syracuse. He do me doing the state fair and them white people being there knowing every single fucking word. Okay, so rock the country. It's a different, it's a little bit. Well, first of all, also, if your politics don't align with someone,
Starting point is 01:48:54 we know that we live in a tense, a very tense political climate right now. It is what it is, whether you agree with it or not, it is what it is. We live in a tense political climate and people like to know that the people that they support and that they've supported for years have the same values as them. Doing anything with Kid Rock does not, especially if it's not necessary, doesn't, people can say that your values don't allow them. If you, if you will go and help contribute to this man making money who's been so loud with what he supports, then I can't support you. I don't think that people are wrong for that. And to piggyback off what DeMeres is saying,
Starting point is 01:49:28 if this was just rock the country, if this was just a country music festival, yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'm never going to sit here and say everyone that loves country music is fucking mega racist or whatever. But this, we can confidently assume that this entire day
Starting point is 01:49:45 and entire festival will be very much politicized. Every single set will have something to do with a political theme, a political point. it's not just going to be a good day of music. Like, it's going to be very much politicized. You know, not everyone was free for all 250. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:50:11 We know, we know what this is going to turn into. And I'm sure when Ludacris first heard of it, he was like, country music fest, whatever, I'll do country music fest, it's a bag, this and that. Everyone's done Bonneroo. Yeah, but when you stop and, when people stop and think and open up your mind to stuff, yeah, yeah, you know what type of, you know the fan base that that's going to attract.
Starting point is 01:50:31 You know what the person who's throwing it and headlining it or whatever. You know what he's on. Like you know these things. So it's kind of like you take a risk. Again, Nelly doing it makes sense. Nelly doing it makes sense because of Nellie's country roots. He has a discography for that. Ludacris is like, you hip, you're a hip hop that white people are like, you don't need to be there.
Starting point is 01:50:55 So because ludicrous don't have a country song, that's why you shouldn't be the... Ludacris can do whatever the fuck Ludacris wants to do. That's what I said. That's what I said at the top of the conversation. Okay, but I don't think that is corny that he looks at us, that people brought some things to his attention. He's like, maybe this might not be the best place for me. Why would you even want to perform at a festival where you know that there's a good chance that if your kids come and see you, they're going to be looked at funny?
Starting point is 01:51:21 Why do you even want to be in a place like that? I don't like going to places where ain't a lot of meat here. I don't know. Maybe that's just me. But it ain't a whole lot of you. You walking around and for the people who don't recognize you, they're looking you up and down. Like, you ain't supposed to be here. What do you say to the point of festivals, let's not say that are politicized or just regular festivals with an array of different talent on the bill?
Starting point is 01:51:47 A majority of festivals are white. I don't care if you're at a rap festival. Okay, Rolling Loud, Made in America. Roots Picnic. Roots Picnic is white. It can be white sometimes. It's probably the furthest white festival, but it's a lot of whites everywhere. It's a lot of whites singing along to the N-word.
Starting point is 01:52:04 It's a lot of whites that like black music but don't like black people. At what point can you even get in the mind of a consumer at a festival at this point? Because there's a lot of rap festivals that a lot of white people go to that use the N-word freely, like rap music, but are still very much on the MAGA racist side of things. If you think MAGA doesn't like rap, you're very, very, very, very, very mistaken. They're aware of. And they are in the festivals that are not rocked the country.
Starting point is 01:52:32 But they're aware of where they are. They can have whatever ideals they have in their head. But when you at Roots Picnic, you're aware of where you are. Go watch any rapper at a festival when the cameras, a live stream, you hear everyone singing along to every word. That's fine. But you are aware of where you are. You do not have the false sense of power that I can, I can, it's different.
Starting point is 01:52:57 When he goes, I know, I know exactly what I'm talking about. I know if you're visiting my culture, whether you respect it or not, you're aware of the fact that you're visiting my culture. He's about to go someplace where they do not accept him as, but they don't accept black country artists as a part of their culture. So you're about to go to some place where they're about to go and celebrate being white and free in America. Not everybody, but you can, you can guess the type of people that are going to be at that fucking festival. We can tip around it. I said it was different. I said it was different.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Well, I have to head out soon, but before we leave, since we're speaking of the whites, I'm so excited that Green Day is doing the pregame opening the moments at the Super Bowl. Not because I want balance. I just like Green Day. I hope you have the time of your life. If they don't close with that, the light is up in the bay? They got to close with that.
Starting point is 01:53:53 And then what's the other one? What's the other shit that? duke y i ruled trl for like 17 months they had to they had to retire the fucking video they was like all right man they had so many eras the dugi era nimrod then they became emo pop i love green day love green day even when they went emo i still like them um is there a reason why we haven't gotten like a a blink 182 reunion or like they still they just did they last they just did their last tour like two years ago oh damn you missed that damn mad i missed that but they're all still cool right
Starting point is 01:54:28 in 2020. That makes me feel better. They didn't have some like crazy. Yeah, no. They just, you know, like life, man. Got kids now and married. Kids, rappers and shit. Well, and obviously, Travis Barker went through a lot.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Yeah. I also want to give a big congratulations to our boy. Cass. Oh. It's the way Roy looked around like who. No, because next on the list was Bruno Mars and I thought we were about to have another fucking Bruno Mars to be. No.
Starting point is 01:54:53 I was talking. I was like, I don't have time for this. I was talking about Katz. Yes, absolutely. Congratulations. to our brother, Kaz. He will be joining Mero with Mero in the morning. Congrats, Cass. Mornings with Mero. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Go, Cass. So proud of you. Listen, man. Cass. Cas, I respect it, man. Cass, has two beautiful kids. Now he can get out of there early before he has to do the morning routine. Got out of it. Didn't you was a father? Didn't you get out of the house? Hey, Cass, real niggas know what you did with that. What niggas respect.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I knew what you was doing, Kat. Yeah, man. Get out the house nice and around. You got to handle kids. I got to go to work. It's all good. I got to go pay the bills. Yeah. Let me get up out of here. Yeah. No more morning routines.
Starting point is 01:55:32 Nah. I respect it, Kay. It's over. But no, seriously. Jokes aside, I think that's amazing. And obviously, you know, they're great with mellow already. They have chemistry. So, yeah, I think Cas and Meryl will be good. Looking forward to it, man.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Hopefully they bring that New York energy back tomorrow on the radio. Is Kaz the first Staten Islander to ever get a look? I feel like they've had every burrow up there. on morning radio. Kaz might be a Staten Island legend now. Is Wu-Tang, Pete Davidson, and Kaz? I think Kaz is going to be amazing for radio because Kaz is interesting but still like PG.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Like that's, he's safe, but also still interesting. He's not boring. He's funny. He's interesting, but he's not. He'll be a good balance for when Merrow goes a little too far to reel it back in. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He's like a good on-mic producer in that regard
Starting point is 01:56:23 of just bringing the conversation back to where it needs to be. Yeah. But I'm excited. And can I 97 like make these podcasts? Like I'll be honest. I'm not listening from 6 to 10 in my car. But I would like to listen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:37 Can you guys make it a podcast? Yeah. Fuck yeah, wait on. Pay the boys extra though for that pot. You know, get them their YouTube money. But yeah, that would be nice. So we can support our friends. I ain't waking up at 6 o'clock in the morning to support my friend.
Starting point is 01:56:51 But, you know. Wait. No, yes. Shout out the Merron cast. morning show Hot 97 Listen to the guys Listen to the guys In more important news though
Starting point is 01:57:02 Is this Nike LeBron Marlutta King Junior sneaker a real thing? This can't be real This is not real This can't be real There's no way they took The teal blue
Starting point is 01:57:16 Off the Lorraine Motel They're real And made it a sneaker They're real I'm not laughing I'm not laughing You laugh at you laugh at This is nuts
Starting point is 01:57:27 Honor the King You know the amount of people In a Nike boardroom And how many people have to approve No one thought this is fucking insane Even if This is as crazy as that Pepsi commercial Where they solved race relations
Starting point is 01:57:42 And police brutality With a Coke or with a Pepsi And Kendall Jenner Yeah Marle like dumbstruck There's no way to he's released tomorrow They come out
Starting point is 01:57:52 They come out tomorrow Out of all the things that you could find to honor Dr. Martin Luther King, you're choosing a hue off a motel that he was murdered in? Who thought that that was a good idea? Who thought that was a good idea? Even Googling that when brainstorming and coming up with ideas how we want to honor Martin Luther King. Hold on. What motel was that in? What did he debut in?
Starting point is 01:58:21 What does that say on the tongue, Josh? He just said they debuted him in Memphis. It says equality. No, the fuck. All right. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I'm done. I, nah. They dragged it with that. That is crazy. Equality? Well, that's not the first time they put that on the sneaker, but that color. They put end racism in the end. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:49 That teal, using that Lorraine Motel teal as the color way. So if they send you some, you ain't going to wear them? I would never wear them shit. I owned one pale of bronze my whole life, first of all. So those would not be in the collection. I had the little purple ones with the peach underbottom. They kind of looked like galaxy ones. You ever seen them?
Starting point is 01:59:13 You know what I'm talking about. They were fire. Yeah, those are crazy. This is bad. This is a bad call on Nike's behalf. This is a terrible call on LeBron's behalf. I mean, yeah, this is just bad. This is not a good look.
Starting point is 01:59:27 This is not a good look at all. It's just depressed the episode. Let's just get it. out here y'all. No, it's just not a good, it's just, I can't believe Nike is fucking nuts. It's just, they just missed the whole, like, mark with this one. Like, this is bad. And Nike usually does a great job. Like, they, they are very aware and very, you know, sensitive when it comes to certain things. So for them to green light this and put this in production and release it. Yeah, I don't know about that one. It's just the teal from the Lerangelo. It's, it's, it's
Starting point is 01:59:57 murder site? Yeah, you don't honor the murder site. The assassination. Like you don't celebrate. That's like if we wanted to, if all Irish Americans wanted to honor JFK, we all went and dropped tops and drove around for the day. Yeah. In the backseat. Like, you know, we all dropping the top today. Did you have to see the guys honoring speaking of all came?
Starting point is 02:00:19 Save that for Patreon. That was going to be on my Patreon list for Thursday. That was some of the sick of shit I've ever seen. But we're going to talk about that on Patreon. man because that's a whole other conversation we'll have to get tomorrow so um all right we'll go get tomorrow go get the girls uh baby did good to have you back continue heal and continue blessings i like the red hair
Starting point is 02:00:40 love the red hair i don't know what the titty push up but it's okay we'll take that too um either way we're told to y'all soon that's what they're here for i mean listen that's what they're here for that's what the hornies are here for we'll talk to y'all soon be safe be blessed i'm the nigginsia's ginger welcome back baby d introduceing the titty tier a win a win a win a win is a win a win a win I I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th.
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