New Rory & MAL - Episode 456 | ICON

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

During this episode, we do a quick recap of our v-day’s before Demaris asks Mal a wild question that leads him on a rant. We then address LaRussel’s viral critique of Lil Wayne, and how media clips can be taken out of context, with Rory addressing his viral Doechii take. DJ Vlad also went viral with a tweet that people misunderstood. We give a quick take on All Star Weekend (breaking news: still trash), and then get into new music. Mal has a take on Brent’s album and what it means for his career moving forward. We have a voicemail from a caller who we have to kink shame, and then address a heavy loss for New York City. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It has to be something like... Side chick appreciation day. No, no, no. We always appreciate the sidechicks. I'm talking about like coming off of Valentine's Day. Like, what's that... Some appreciate them more than their own girl. Yeah, I mean, well, you know, this is like happy...

Tell me about it. This is Lovers Week. This is still Lovers' Bliss. Happy Lovers Bliss week. Yeah. It's going to sound corny, but I didn't realize how many people that I follow are in love. Like, I love to watch love this weekend.

I didn't realize how many people I followed was pregnant. Yo. I didn't realize how many people I followed was in relationships. I didn't realize how many people was engaged. That usually happens like around the first day of school. You've had a kid this whole time? Yeah, ladies, I got to stop doing the pregnancy reveal on Valentine's Day. Because we would be flirting and you here you are eight weeks pregnant.

Eight weeks. Crazy? She could feel flirts. Maybe she didn't know. No, she knew. Don't have me flirting with you. It's time, especially in New York State. It's time.

She got to, you got to. But congrats to all of the ladies that, you know, you got to get rid of homie before, before you start flirting. Which means. Even if you plan on taking home into the glue factory, you can't flirt until that feed is. Why not? You can't flip.

You could give a nigga some pregnant pussy even though you plan on getting rid of the baby. Who? If you plan not getting rid of the baby, you could give him some pregnant pussy. All right. Give who the guy that got you pregnant or the guy that? Then you're next victim. them. At least you have to worry about getting pregnant.

Exactly. You could let them come in you and then, you know, nothing's going to matter. Tell that niggins get nothing, me, daddy. Notting me, daddy. Two minutes in on Netflix. I know. I know. That's bad.

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I would have been like unfollowed you and all of that. No, you uncle now. No, I'm not. I'm not an uncle. Finding out them niggas that being your dims, dims, your DMs all year around, have girlfriends every year. It's like they surprise me every year. I love it.

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love seeing y'all cry when y'all realize that he don't like you like that. I love that. Not you. I'm just saying women. I love seeing that.

I love seeing women, you know, realize where you stand in their life? Where you, you know what I mean? Because it's good. Valentine's Day is we should call it. Revelations. A lot is revealed. A lot of you'll find out who's pregnant. You'll find out who's married. You'll find out who's back with their ex that they kept kicking in the back since Christmas. You find all of these things out on Valentine's Day. I love it. Not a lot of time between me. Baby Dee, how you feel it? Baby Dee, how you feel it? We got different algorithms

because I only saw love. I was kind of shocked by it. It was a lot of love too, though. Let me put that out there. It was a lot of love. Fellas, y'all did y'all thing. A lot of fellas I saw doing good things for the ladies. Salute to the fellas out there that really, you know, show up and show out on Valentine's Day for their woman. That doesn't go on notice. Salute to y'all. Gotcha.

Okay. What'd you do? Nothing. I was home watching the worst dunk contest of all time. All-Star Saturday. We'll get to that. We're going to get to that. All right.

That's what I was doing. Did you at least text a few women happy Valentine's Day? Because by the way, Valentine's Day, because by the way, they just always need to be. I get out the way on Valentine's. I got my mother flowers. Like you can do that. Yeah.

I get out the way. I get out the way on Valentine's day. I'm not going to even play with a woman and have her thinking that, you know, get out the way. Just a text. No, no, I'm not doing that because a text. My cash app ain't go off. My Zelda didn't ring. Like, it's like, damn.

Well, you don't need to be texting that girl anyways, then. Yes, you know. If I say Happy Valentine's Day and you say my cash app didn't ring, I have no business to text you. Who do you text Happy Valentine's Day? Who would you text Happy Valentine's Day to? Because you didn't text me and I'm one of your homegirls, so you don't text it to your homegirls. I just said I got my mother flower. I would have text you, baby, D, but, you know, our clip was doing numbers.

You know, our Valentine's. was doing numbers. They was hitting my line talking about, oh, skew, egg rolls. I was like, yo, first of us, not even an egg roll. Spring roll, thank you. You know what I had to correct them.

They was in my inbox trying to go crazy. I'm like, yo, first of all. They was hating on me what they say. They was hating on me? Because they couldn't say I wasn't cute. They was like, yo, baby Dee, like that's how she eats spring rolls.

I was like, oh, it was hot. I said y'all had to blow on it. It was fresh out. You know what I'm saying? I didn't want to put the hot spring roll in baby D mouth like that? Your gentleman. I'm saying, yeah, come on now.

they tried to give me a little shit I know they were saying you with y'all oh that's you that's what's up yeah that's him what's up yo y y'all fucking I will say my request DMs the amount of people say yo just between you and I they're fucking right just between you and I the DMs is hilarious because it's never between just you and I like all of them yes

leading to it sure are yes they definitely are they definitely are fucking now I'm seeing at the um I'm looking at the rundown did that disrupt any of y'all lives because I did see Demeris put up I wouldn't call it sub-tweet per se, but she was like, this is why I only fuck with secure men. And I knew it had to do with the video. Did that disrupt anything in y'all lives?

Me, no. No man that I have any bit of involvement with thinks on any planet that I am fucking my boss. No one thinks that. Only people, no one thinks that. I don't have to deal with that in my text. But it's funny to see people like try to create that. Like, y'all knew they was. I'm like, word, did you know?

Did you know that? How did you know that? How? And this is the, this is the way we do. tell you all? No, this is what pisses me off. The old day fucking narrative, whatever. That's what, when niggas be like, mall playing around, but Damara is serious. Like, Demer is so thirsty for Maul and he just won't give her no play. That pisses me off. If you want to say we mutually fucking, that's fine. Don't try to make it seem like I'm

like I'm thirsty for mall. You mean consensually? What's not mutually fucking? I like mutual. I like that. We're a word for that. And it rhymes with grape. If y'all want to say that we're mutually intimate, that's whatever. But don't go and make it seem like I'm thirsty by you thirsty though. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I can respect that. Yeah. You hungry, you're not thirsty.

Yeah, but that's what I did for Valentine's Day. I watched the numbers go up on that. The camera bar that he just wrapped. I thought it was done. I do have a question for Mall. Okay. I was in an elevator and I witnessed. Oh.

No, I witnessed the interaction and I tried really hard to contain a giggle because I'm like, if Mall was here, this would be such a crazy interaction. I think about you at times like that. So I watch. They don't really think we're fucking, see, so once they say you're thinking about Mall, once they hear the question they go and down thinking about Mall. That's crazy. I was in an elevator, right?

And there was a man in the elevator, you know, nice looking guy or whatever. And he did. He smelled really good. A young couple got in in the elevator. So it's me, the cute guy in the corner and the young couple, they get in. And the girl goes, mm, and turns to the guy and says, what are you wearing? No, she's single. I would have turned into salons in that fucking elevator.

Yeah, she's single. She said, I'd have been. Put a long beep. All right. Yo. Yeah. And we're back. So I wanted to ask you, right?

In any scenario, is that okay? Because maybe he thought that the dude smelled good too, and he didn't want to ask the dude so he had his girl at. You would have heard him whisper that in an elevator. You were in an elevator. Let me tell you one thing. A man. Okay.

Let me speak for myself because you're asking me the question, right? Let me tell you one thing I've never done. I've never gotten in the elevator and smelled a man and thought, hmm, he smells good. Never thought that. Babe, babe. Can you see what he's wearing? Yeah, like, what?

No, you don't, woman ain't supposed to do that? Because now, okay, this is what I love to do. Reverse the rolls. I get in the elevator with my girl. It's a woman standing there. I'm like, damn, you smell good. What's that? Home is fucked up when we get home.

House, it's going to be cold pots. It ain't going to be no food, everything. Women, you don't want to hear your man tell a woman like, oh, you smell good. What is that? You don't want that. Right? I do not. Exactly.

You know what was crazy. I think it wouldn't have been as bad if she would have said something like, hey, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to bother you. What are you wearing? And my dad wears that exact scent. Like, what are you wearing? That's different.

You can't ask, okay. The, um, I think I'd be more mad than my girl's lying right now. I've met your dad. You don't smell like that. No woman of mine. You can't even talk to men in public. Facts.

Mall. I'm Muslim. What you want me to do? No more dope game. Alhambhala, what you want me to do? My woman can't even talk to other men, let alone what are you wearing? Because my dad wears that same. So you know what he's wearing if your dad wear the same thing.

Now you lying. Your dad smell like mothballs. First of all, let's go out of gold bond powder. Yeah, let's start there. Your father smelled like moth balls. Let's start there. Stop lying. He got moth balls in his closet.

Everything he put on smell like mothballs. Let's start there. So now you're lying to this man. Like, no. You didn't tell him no, man. He smelled good. Are you with me? You crazy?

No. Not my woman. No, I'm not. Because again, and then this is why women is whack, Rory. Because then y'all try to make it seem like I'm insecure. See, women to paint that. Like, I can't give a man a compliment. Why are you acting insecure?

You know our baby Dee was sub-tweeting. An insecure man. What you said? An insecure man is not a man for me. I said, an insecure man would never make it around here. Those tend to avoid me. They tend to avoid me. They call me masculine.

So if a man gets mad at that, if your man gets mad at that, would that be a sign of? No, that she was crazy. I was over there like, oh. I think mall putting a spring roll in your mouth was fucking crazy. I don't think that's insecure. That was for content. That's for content. That wasn't like me. It's not like you was walking past that restaurant after we left here and you saw me feeding baby the out of the corner of the eye.

Like, yo, that would have been crazy. That would have been crazy. We were filming content. It was content. Like, that's all it was. Now, I mean, I probably wouldn't have cared in that situation of Damaris and I were dating. But I could see a man feeling away about that and him not. I mean, where are you would have.

Not really wouldn't have. About the content? I'm being scared about weird shit, not that content type of shit. But I think there'd be plenty of men that would feel a way about that. And I wouldn't label them as insecure. Yeah. Like, because y'all podcasts.

Y'all not a food, not a foodie channel. Like, that's not the content y'all make anyways. Yeah, but we're a content company. We create content. We create all types of content.

Don't put us in a box, nigga. We're multimedia. Gosh, okay. Yeah. This is how you would pitch it to your significant other. No, y'all are good.

Y'all are good. You seen the LLC. You seen the LLC. The fuck? No. You just texted me like, damn, I miss when you looked at my eyes like that. Hey. That's what they were texting you?

Hey. That's kind of gay. Hey. That's wow. Damn, all getting those glasses now? Yeah, that's crazy. But no, baby, yes, I would have felt the way if my woman got an elevator and smelled another man that was smelling good and then asked him like, mm. She did the, mm.

She said, mm. That means she, no, see, no. No. Wait, did he answer? He, so he looked at, he turned, looked at her, looked at him, and then looked the man in his face and was like, I'm wearing Creed, Queen of Silk. He looked the man in the face and told the man what he was wearing?

Yeah. Nah, we got to kill him. That's a fighting, that's a fighting, Glenn. You got to kill him. No, because I think he was just kind of like, awkward. Like, I'm not about to look your bitch in her face and tell her what I'm wearing. Like, I'm going to assume she's asking for you. See, this is why I wear air pods.

I would just ignore that question. I'm not trying to start. No, I would say, yo, queen, I don't think your king is comfortable with you asking. Queen, I don't think you're king. But that makes the shit. That makes it worse. That makes it so much worse, Mom. Yeah, but that's what I would have said.

I don't made y'all y'all ride home uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable. Yeah, I don't make y'all ride home while uncomfortable. I would have hit the five of a media. And mind you, we was on like the 15th floor. We were all going to the lobby. So she asked on like the 12th floor. Like.

So you got mad floors. Mad. It was just silent. That shit would have been like fucking Q and Tupac in the elevator and juice. Like. dead silence staring each other. What you're going to do? What you're going to shoot me?

What's going to do? Shoot me? Yeah. Absolutely. I'm sure she meant like from an innocent standpoint, but she just was not. I don't think she was thinking. She wasn't thinking. I remember I was with a girl on a date like years ago.

Seven years? No, this was like, this was way more than seven years ago. We was walking. We was right there by the garden. And we walked in and it was like two guys sitting down. And she walked over to one of the guys and was asking about the sneakers. was wearing I ain't seen her sense.

I kept walking. Ma. I'm dead. Y'all think I'm joking. The funny thing is, y'all think I'm joking. I know you. She started walking because I know you. She started walking.

I thought she knew him. She's like, yo, where do you get those from? Those is fire. Once I heard, those is fire. She jumped on that D train so fast. Maybe she's a sneaker head. Yeah, she can be a sneaker head.

Now they're a sneakerhead couple. Now they're a sneakerhead couple. You all hate a sneaker head couples. You're going to go up to some rain. Yo, them sneakers is fire. Yeah, where you get those? That's way more innocent than you smell amazing. What are you wearing?

No, we're on a date. Because if you could smell me, you could taste me. You use both sentences together. Yeah, but if she's looking at his feet, and he probably like, what, like a 15 or something? If she's looking at his feet, that means he could beat. Yeah, if she's looking at his feet, she's thinking about his meat. You know how I go.

Don't they say that? Ain't that what they say? Who says that? Who's that? I ain't even going to tell y'all what more walked in and said to me. Never mind. We ain't even going to talk about it. I walked in and said to you win.

You walked in and said to me in P's today, yo. What I said? What you said? What you asked P's if he ever did, yo. Oh. No, that's for us. That's for us. Netflix don't pay enough for that one.

Okay. Damn, I missed. What happened? Yeah, you missed. I'll get with you. I'll give you the bar. I don't worry about it. I'll give you the ball.

Wait until we wrap this up. Sure. You still here. Fair enough. How you saw my sub tweet if you ain't got no Twitter? Because I have the new Rory Mowland. He's all on your timeline, too. Yeah.

In my business. I'm about to get some of my views and opinions off on the new Rory and Mall account. They're going to know it's you. They're going to know it's Rory for sure. You get TMZ some more content? Baby D. How was your Valentine's Day? It was good. You had a good time?

I don't like that tone. I don't like you. I was going to text you, but I was like, nah, you know what? I ain't go texts it today. No, that's cool. It didn't go the way it was originally planned to go, but it went fine regardless. It was cool. It didn't go the way it was planned.

Were you happy? Were you smiling? I was fine. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Were you happy and were you smiling? I was fine. I got all my gifts before Valentine's Day. So I'm Valentine's Day.

Like, Pige, though, I have been accepted packages every week, the week of Valentine's Day. By the time Valentine's Day came, I was, the only thing that got delivered to me was like. Your heart was full? My heart was full. Heart was full, house was full of flowers. I was good. Okay. Yeah.

It's better to give than to receive. Did you do anything for anyone on Valentine's Day? I look like the type of girl. Do I look like that? Yo, first, don't do that. Don't do that. Because last week, you was asking me mad. Like, yo, Ma, would you?

Would you, what you think about this? And I was like, no, that's fine. That's cool. That's for, like, birthdays and shit. For Valentine's Day, I'm like a card. I'm going to give you a nice, heartfelt card. Girl, give me a call for Valentine's Day. I ain't going to hold you.

I'm not going to hold you. Yo, if you my, I'm talking about, like, if we, like, really dating. Oh, no, that's different. But I'm, like, I'm like, single so I don't there's not this Valentine's Day is like draft days for niggas don't impress me and tell me why they should continue to yeah they the draft was in June why they should make it into 2026 that's what Valentine's Day is for me I'm single draft day

draft day draft day I thought it was just a day just to show love and a peteen on Valentine's Day y'all win what offset say y'all won yeah I didn't know it was drafted when did it's when did the draft start in February that starts it starts February 1st I make cuts February 15th you know whether you made the team or not. So do we think maybe we could set up the hats on your desk and you can like tease. Who had the first pick? Like, which city is he going to? They trade for number one?

Yeah, like, what city is he getting drafted to? Jesus Christ. I did not know what the draft. We have special guests today in the building. Pam and Gina. Pam and Gina. That is Pam and Gina over there. Y'all going to be Pam and Gina today.

Pam and Gina. It's good to see y'all. Haven't seen y'all in a while. It's good to see y'all in a while. It's good to see y'all. You. Nice to feed too. Oh, they're going to know those voices.

Yeah, yeah. They know those. They know those. It's fine. They know those voices. They know those. Well, my Valentine's Day was great. If anyone.

Yes. How was yours, were we? I took, this is not an ad. I took a Mara to Urban Dunes, which is like a sand place in the city in the Upper East Side. Okay. And yeah, we had, we had a nice town. I got a, I got duped by a DIY cookie place. I had this whole idea to make a cookie princess castle with Amara.

I did the next day air. $40 on Monday. Yeah. That shit still is saying delivered today. Didn't deliver. Never happened. Other than that, it was good though.

Amara had a good time? Yeah, she did. She had no concept of Valentine's Day, though she was running around saying happy Valentine's Day to everyone. No idea what it meant. That's okay. We don't know what it means.

We're in Whitton saying. We just shut down urban dunes. Shut it down. Had the spot to ourselves. Okay. Fire. That's just because no one else was there. Keel was like,

you better book the appointment to. like, oh, yeah, I guess you're right, it's Valentine's. They said walking? I said, no, I have an appointment. I said disappointment 48 hours ago. But no, it was a fun, fun Valentine's Day. You know, we created edible arrangements and stuff, you know? Listen, just showing my daughter how to be treated.

That's dope. Of course. And now you got 16 years of fucking excuses come Valentine's Day. What do you mean? excuses for what? Every girl he date. Oh, you know, I'm just with my daughter for Valentine's Day. That's you fucking right.

Yeah, what's wrong with that? Absolutely. To the day he died. Boo. To the day he, excuse me, Tamagini, I got something to say. Y'all good over there? Boo. Boo?

Stop dating. He can't be with his daughter for Valentine's Day? You can, but you still have to make time for somebody else. When you date somebody. It's a love day. It's showing love. My single father, he was with his daughter during the day. Your single father?

Huh? You say your single father? The one I'm dating a single day. Oh, you're dating a single. You're dating? Oh, he's. Okay. That ain't her baby.

Okay. That's got it. But he's not. Okay. But no, it's doing what you said I'm dating. That single is fun. It happens all the time.

That is true. Oh, okay, yes. So he had his daughter for Valentine's Day. He had a day and the day and then I was night. And you had him at night. Didn't you? You had him.

Didn't you go? I know you did. So that's what Rory can do. Okay. I don't want to do like a, a Twitter topic back and forth. But I also feel like you should treat your baby mother well on Valentine's Day. Absolutely. You should.

If y'all are in a healthy space. If you're co-parenting well, why? No. You shouldn't show your daughter or son how to treat their mother on Valentine's Day? No, not if you're not dating their mother. No. I'm not saying some romantic shit, but you should. Valenzhen, no, no, because we're not going to change.

Valentine's Day is about love. It's not just about your significant other. We're not going to change. We're not going to change Valentine's Day. There's a reason that there's Cupid and all of this shit. Granted, people buy shit for their mothers, for their mothers for Valentine's Day, because their mothers be single. That's why y'all be buying shit

for your mother's for Valentine's Day. That's not true. Because your mothers be single. When your mother is married, your father handles that or her husband handles that. One, let me talk. Let me talk.

There are now, granted, I'm very much taking care of your baby mother to the day she died. Mother's Day, Christmas, all that shit. Valentine's Day is not a holiday

that you have to do something for your baby mother. It's not. If you want to get her something from your child, like, oh, mommy, here, here's a little card, happy Valentine's Day.

That's fine. But the gifts and shit, like that for your baby mother on Valentine's Day? No. If I was dating a man who had a baby mother, I'm not doing, we're not doing that. Mother's Day, yeah, go hard for her. Her birthday, yeah, go for her. Christmas, yeah, go hard for her. She takes care of your kid. Valentine's Day is my fucking day, bro. I feel like that's fair. No, I'm not saying block the whole day out, but you should do something nice for your child's mother for Valentine's Day. Okay, that's your opinion. I think that's even an example, whether you have a son or daughter of how they should be treated.

I've got my grandmother flowers every Valentine's Day till she died. Like, it's not always about significant other shit. It's love within your family, no? Okay. No, I cannot wait to, to you get a girlfriend and you explain that to her. You explain to your new girlfriend that you are doing something special for your baby mother for Valentine's Day. I mean, I'm not speaking for Rory, but if I have a, if I have a baby mother, and you think that on Valentine's Day, I wouldn't get my, send my baby mother some flowers? Just flower. I'm not saying we got to do dinner and all. You think I wouldn't send flowers to her house? Okay, I'm not mad at that. I'm not bad at that. But what you're talking about, I'm not saying some romantic dinner. I'm not saying.

about what Rory is talking about is different. No, I'm saying what Mall is saying. He didn't say take on a date. You say, show your child an example. What child, what example are you showing your child? If you want to make something with your child to give to their mother from both of us,

I don't think that's a crazy thing to do, especially if both parties are single in your co-parenting. Okay, that's, but. Now, now, if this hypothetical is nothing to do with my situation. Of course. If your child's mother is in a relationship, I would still want to respect that. If that would ruffle some feathers, then I would not do that and respect what they have going on.

But yeah, if you co-parenting with somebody in a healthy way, why wouldn't you do something nice for them on Valentine's? Okay, but we weren't talking about that. We were talking about somebody who's in a relationship dating someone else. Oh, if you want to add that into the equation, then that's a conversation that I would hope y'all probably had before any Valentine's Day shit came up. Yeah, but I don't even think that even if my baby mother is in a relationship, like sending her flowers. and like we have a child together. Mm-hmm. Like, I'm forever like, yeah.

Like, that's like the greatest gift ever. Like, happy Valentine's Day. That's all. I'm not trying to hang out and do dinner and all of that. Like, just send some flowers to the crib. I feel like that's fair. I think it's unnecessary, but I feel like it's fair. And again, I'm not the, don't do anything for your baby mother.

I always advocate. Like, you need to take care of your baby mother to the date that she dies. But if you think it's inappropriate. Except on Valentine's. If you think it's because I just, I just feel like Valentine's Day is a day. Yeah, you can do shit for your mom, sure. But I feel like Valentine's Day is a day for lovers. I just have always felt like that.

I'm going to love my baby mother to the day I die. It's my child's mother. Not in love. I may not be in love her, but I'm going to love her for forever giving me a child. Like, are you, what? Like, nobody's coming in between that. Nope.

Okay. All right. What if both y'all are in separate relationships who watches the kid on the 14th? I feel like y'all probably, don't y'all probably organize that? Y'all organize that. And you probably switch shining off. Now you're involved in her Valentine's Day. So why can I just send some flowers?

Hmm. Do your thing, Marie. Do you think. I'm not. Do my thing, I'm not doing anything. I just, I don't know.

I just, I don't know. I just feel like that's just, I can understand why someone dating someone doing that could feel a way about that. Because like I said, go hard for Mother's Day, go hard for Christmas,

go hard for everything. But you don't, Valentine's Day is my day. I'm trying to think how, we could disagree. So Mother's dating a woman with my child's mother. Mother's day, I want you go hard for her,

buy her shit, do whatever the fuck you need to do because women deserve it. But Valentine's Day. It's just, it's a day for the person you're in a relationship with. I feel like that's fair.

I don't feel like that's selfish at all. Okay. All right. If you're dating a woman with kids, do you step back on Mother's Day or do you... No. No. Why would you do that?

What day we get off? I just gave you February 14. In fact, do you get President's Day off? No, because I'm here at work. I'm President's Day. I got to sing you dead presidents on President's Day, right? Yeah.

Actually, I'm waiting for it to hit my account. You got to sing your baby mom, dead presidents on President's Day. We don't get it. The guy, dead. The goddamn 47. I don't know. You get some George Washington.

But, all right, so I should step back if I'm dating a woman with children on Mother's Day and let the father do that? I never said that. No. So I, but I don't want to overstep because you're saying that the father should celebrate his baby mother. Should I step back? No. Why you can't be celebrated by more than one person? Okay.

Yeah. I'm just asking the rule. If you're dating, if you're dating a mother, you should get her something for Mother's Day. I agree with you. Yeah. But that's not, she's not the mother. All right, cool. I just see some contradiction.

There's no, there's no contradiction. It's mother's day and then mother's day. Mother's Day you buy shit for all mothers that you know or that you feel important enough about. Like if it was Mother's Day, y'all would get me something for Mother's Day. Y'all didn't get me shit for Valentine's Day. Why is that? Because I'm not y'all love, right? I love you.

Exactly. Exactly. So don't act like you're confused about what I'm saying. Your heart was already full. I didn't, I didn't want it to spill over. I fed you spring rolls. on Valentine's Day first of all I fed you

You gave First of all You only gave me That bite You didn't even give me The rest of the spring roll Like if we really want to talk about some behind the scene shit

Maul gave me that bite In the spring roll And it ate the rest of the spring roll That's even more intimate In my opinion It was fire That's just was fire I was gonna let you

Mawr was busting them shit's down I was hungry I'm sorry man I was what it is If I was the marriage Man that would actually be The one thing I would have problem with

Like no That's just spring roll now That's hers Yeah Why I'm all trying It's trying to bust it down After it's You know

saliva tasted like. I did not see Baby D. My bad. That's why they think that. You're going to add to this narrative. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're going to add to it.

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Thank you. That's why I can't talk to me. Mr. Russell. Listen, man. La Russell, speaking of love, Speaking of love. Yeah, La Russell expressed his love for Little Wayne over the weekend and everybody went crazy.

What did you think about the comments first? Because I know that you have a little, this is your little, I got-cha get-back moment for LaRusser because the Russell had some things to say in regards to your comments about Dochi a few months ago. So I'm giving the floor to you, Roy, because I know you want this ISO. No, no, no, no, I'm just that LaRussel who we've supported since the backyard.

That's my guy. Since Hovane was working with, rest and peace. to my dear friend O'Vane, the guy that we have always, always supported. Absolutely. Yeah, there was once upon a time when I was being killed by the internet the first time.

The second one was a little rougher. I would have understood if LaRussell chimed on the second one. When I was getting killed for out of context, aka Peuge clipping something up, comments about Doche being on stage with Lauren Hill, La Russell, who I thought was a friend,

who I thought was a ally. You thought the Russell was an ally. I have been nothing but supported. We tried to fly to his backyard in 2020.

Years ago. In COVID. Now I can't even get a ticket. Now he had tweeted an out of context clip. Dochi is one of the greats. You know I can't read that,

Damaris. I'll read it for you. It's that, look at that fine print. I got you. Oh, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. That Jake Coles? Whose dread was that?

Did that go up on the screen? Can we keep all that flea? That was Jay Cole's dread? Why you still got Jay Coase dread? What's wrong with you, dog? I'm still doing voodoo. Damn, what's wrong with you? It's so funny.

La Russell tweeted, Dochi is one of the greats. Facts. It's never too early to recognize greatness. There's no such thing as premature flower given. She's great and doing great things. She's not just tight. She gets it.

She's not just tight. She gets it. Okay. She putting something new in the pot. She loves the art. She'd be. smiling and enjoying her journey, get off her dick. And to that, you say, Rory. Yo, get off Wayne Dick, bro.

La Russell, I love you. I really didn't take this offensive at all. But I did think it was kind of nuts of the pile on of you, you know my, how I've even spoken about your music. This was out of context. I've been a Dochi fan forever champion her for quite some time. We were talking about a separate topic with Lauren Hill. And then I got, I don't know, angled into this position. that I was a dochiator called our industry plan all the shit I never did and then you adding on to it well welcome buddy this is what happens when you comment on hip hop and you think things get taken out of context come on over and sit right next to me la russell you're more than welcome you're more than welcome to come up here and talk about this shit that you said about wayne um what

exactly what exactly did he say and and i'm joking la russell you know i fuck with you i'm really just joking around um he he was on a podcast and Wayne was was brought up and he was talking about how much Wayne was one of his favorite rappers till he got a little older and started listening more to Wayne's lyrics and realized like he really wasn't saying a lot of shit. There wasn't a lot of substance in which is what Wayne has said that about his own music and his bars. So I thought that was a fair point for any fan to give even if I disagree with it because I do think Wayne does have a lot of substance in his music. But the amount of music he put out, I could see the percentage balance being different of non-substance versus substance,

but Wayne has substance. But I understand what LaRuss was saying. Like, when I went back and listened to Marshall Mathers, L.P., is there substance on there? Sure. But I outgrew a lot of my M&M love. Like, this is just not for me when I get older. I don't think what he said was fucking nuts. Now, as someone that has also handled backlash very poorly,

sometimes don't walk down a hill and explain yourself. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. The Russell, we love you up here, man. Sometimes you didn't say anything really that nuts, and I don't think there's a campaign behind getting you out of the paint. While that does exist and it's happened to all of us, everyone in this room, actually, I can say for a fact there's been money of trying to get us out the paint.

But sometimes when all the blogs post at the same time with the same narrative, it's because they're lazy. It's not because somebody's paying them. Yeah, two things can be true. A lot of times they just need content for the day. They're on a 24-hour news cycle. And if they see one outlet post it, it's just going to be a waterfall, the same shit,

because they see you're getting traction on this. Sometimes nobody's paying. Right. Sometimes that you're just the headline for the day. But I feel them. I know what it's like to feel like somebody, now somebody has to be behind the scenes doing this shit. Somebody did this.

Somebody did this. Somebody did this. When you wake up, boy, your phone going on, and all types of blogs is clip of something you said. and then now you're an artist yourself you start feeling like oh man they're taking what I said out of context I didn't mean it like that

as somebody who has been taken out of context plenty of times let me just say the best thing to do sometimes is just shut the fuck up don't explain yourself because no matter how much that's like if you go outside Rory and you win some wax shit

and the homie start snapping on you can't go upstairs and change yeah don't you can't change clothes don't go upstairs and go on Twitter spaces yeah you can't do that you gotta just be like you know what I had I got to sit through this it'll be over to blow over in a minute

but you can't try to like explain and then you know post videos about you know this being a what the internet does and they clip things and they get behind it and they push a narrative everything yes that it does happen but a lot of other times it just know you said something that people felt was a little you know like oh that's a little a little you know rough to say about Wayne but the only thing that I didn't understand why people were killing Russell was because Wayne has said that out his own mouth yeah at his subs he's like I don't really be you know what saying. He was like, yo, he even had a clip that, who used that clip from when he was like, niggas someone, I need a subject. I need a predicate. He said, what did you do?

Niggas just go in the studio with clips. Like, it just like basically like, nigga, fuck all that subject, what I'm talking about. Just get bars, get a beat and just bar shit down. Like, Wayne has said that out his own mouth. So I don't know why people were killing the Russell for just kind of picking up on that and listening to the music. Because I think there's a lot of Wayne fans out there that actually think that Wayne has a lot of substance and hearing that from somebody. And this is also why I like artists getting into the podcast game because y'all fucking killed us for ever having an opinion. You guys do the same thing and they tear apart every last words you've ever done. They pulled up every bad LaRussell lyric of all time.

LaRussell has probably done that in his head with podcasters that have said negative things about him. Like, or dochey. see how that works it's just funny now when you're on this side yeah of like no this isn't really what I said like no I fuck Wayne

now you backtracking and say Wayne's a goat I understand La Russell see what happens See what happens as soon as you leave the Pagola This is what happens As soon as you leave a crib

Lil'Ross when this niggas is on your ass They start taking Now you walking downhill for six minutes Yeah I know you're getting your cardio in nigga But you're gonna get these bars And the

And the the backlash The content I mean, the context that you provide never gets goes viral the way that the original clip was viral. The context of, no, I actually love Drake and sexy songs for you. Never goes viral the way to disrespect does. Oh, they don't care about the love. They don't get to fuck about that, right? They would never pull up all the clips for me from 2017 saying, yo, Dochey's the one.

You don't want to hear that shit. Oh, negative. Let's talk negative about each other. Fuck that rapper. Like, that's going to go viral. Fuck him. Fuck her. She's a plant.

They was clipping the end of an amazing. la russell l a leaker's freestyle just the end when he said some like i'm a dog missed like he was you could tell he was missed everything else he said ending his his freestyle just a throwaway ball forget the three minutes that was before that that means nothing it means this is who you are now they were clipping bad saha fucking uh lyrics over the weekend too which is like what about saha is one of the greatest lyricists period what they were saying about saha has some terrible lyric that they clipped but because he was coming out of digging you got to do to find a bad saha lyric like a bar

What fuck was that bar piece? Do you know what it was? It was bad. Oh, niggas was digging. They was like, nah, but if little, they was like if Big Sean rap, they'd y'all would kill him. I was fucking cry. It was very funny. Now, you know what's going to happen as a result of this.

What? La Russell and Wayne will have a song by the end of the week. Probably. Yeah. That's the type of guy Wayne is. Wayne is like, yo, listen, man. Like, let's just get some shit. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Whatever you want to, you want substance, we'll be rapping about. And then he's going out, out rap La Russell on a beat. You know how that go. All right, well, let's get to his actual comments because I know you're a Wayne Hater and DeMaris and I love him. I'm a Wayne Hater. See? You got to paint the narrative, white boy.

No, this isn't anything that's a narrative that I have to pay. This is a Mona Lisa of rap opinions when it comes to you. Okay. Like, this is the two fingers touching on the ceiling. Me and Wayne?

You are a Wayne Hater. No, how am I a way in a waiter? So do you agree with what he said? I don't think we should kill LaRussell for what he said. I think he's entitled to any opinion he has on rap. And there's definitely been times where I feel like Wayne's not saying a fucking thing.

But I think it's unfair. And sometimes you just be talking. I can attest to that 10 years of doing the shit. Sometimes you just be saying shit. And then you get off the mic and go, damn, now I think about it. I actually don't think that way. So I'm not putting this against La Russell at all. But it is kind of wild to say that Wayne has no substance.

That's fucking nuts. Well, no, because Wayne has real songs where, you know, obviously he's talking about shit. I'm thinking what the Russell was saying is like you said, the volume of Wayne's songs and Wayne Verses. Maybe that's what he's more so talking to. Like out of his output, like a lot of it lacks substance.

A lot of it is just bars. It's just Wayne rapping. Eat your pussy like cold pizza. You know. He's the he's the Cucci monster. You know what I'm saying? Like that's okay. But if you get into the substance of that,

Wayne was probably one of the first rappers to admit eating pussy was cool. Because a lot of rappers used to lie, they would never do that. They was on Jamaican time. We were going to lie and say we don't eat pussy. Wayne was the first one to start doing R&B ballads as a rapper of saying, all I do is eat pussy, and that brought a whole new waving. Nah, I think we got to probably go to LL for that.

L.L. just did it in a more, a slicker way. He didn't say pussy. Okay. He said pink cookies in a plastic bag and crushed by the buildings. shit like that You know It's a different It was a different way

Of saying shit is all I'm saying Wayne was probably the worst That was just as raw But then you gotta go to Uncle Lucan them If you want to talk about Just raw lyrics eating put You gotta go to Uncle Luke Yeah but Wayne was talking about eating

Pussy in like Almost a romantic way Uncle Lugan was just running through these holes Oh yeah well It was a different time back then Wayne made it like In the late 80s early

He was singing about eating Like Superheads Pussy And like this is my wife type of way which I think ushered in a whole new era. Now, I do get what LaRussell is saying as far as some of the lyrics Wayne had were not the best for the community. But, I mean, once you open that door, where do we draw the line with rappers?

Like, yes, did Wayne maybe make being a blood trendy to suburban kids? Cool. But if you became a blood because little Wayne became one, you were going to fall for anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You took all of it. So I don't really know if that ruined the community because those people that wanted to become blood

because of Little Wayne would have fallen for fentanyl for anything on earth they would have fallen for. Absolutely. So I hear them, but as opposed to what rapper? Yeah. As far as negative shit goes. Fuck it, La Russell, man. Just come up here, man, and we can just talk about Wayne.

Let me and Russell just talk about Wayne for about 45 minutes. let's just have a Wayne conversation, me and La Russell. So I think we kind of like hear the same things a little bit. Well, you have one on our Patreon. They kind of, they eating you up about your Wayne versus Ross take. No, we're going to settle it. We're going to settle it this week.

Because I said Ross has better albums. He makes better music. You changed. That goalpost. Patreon.com forward slash new Roy and Wall. Go check out that conversation. I didn't say he makes that best album. I didn't say he makes that best album.

Because we said catalog. and then you're like nice albums now. Yeah, but y'all like to pull in mixtapes. Like, and Ross has crazy mixtapes too, so we all want to seem like that was like... The highlight of the dip set in Locke's verses was Kiss doing a mixtape free stuff. Did I not say Ross makes better music? Exactly. You think he has more substance?

I mean, yes. Yes, I do. Nah. I do. I feel that way. No, Ross has substance. I'm not here to ever say Ross. Wayne does too, but I think Ross has more.

more food groups maybe it's still something no matter how you want to slice that five if I'm at tau like yeah there's a lot of how you want to slice it if I'm at Ocean Prime

yes but my my my feeling was Ross has better music he makes better music than Wayne and I do feel like that not saying Wayne doesn't make good music I'm saying Ross to me to me we're gonna settle it

on Patreon this week to me makes better music than Wayne I cannot wait because we I feel like COVID kind of owes us one when we did the FAB mixtape Wayne

Mixed Battle on IG Live. No, we're going to shut the streets down again. You're going to do Ross and Wayne. All right, well, let's do it. I hate the internet because this is the bar. You were talking about, Demaris? Yeah.

I always love this Sahai bar. I always loved this bar. I met this girl on Valentine's Day, fucked in May. She found out about April, so she chose to March. And how he delivered it was fire. Yeah, like, see, that's what you put birds.

They don't know the cadence. They don't know the beat. We're not doing that. And they dropped the beat right at Chose to March. Like, This bar worked. You're not doing that to Saha. I didn't do it.

We're not doing it. We're not doing it. It's one of the greatest lyricists of all time. Yeah, we're not doing that. I get it. And that Piff posted that? What they're trying to say? Hey, Sah,

don't send them niggas no more your music, man. That's it. Didn't they call that? I guess it's maybe trash. Because, like, he just has this. Time is a construct designed by a Oh, Jesus. A certain community.

But I guess maybe because he was gallant and he met her Valentine's Day, waited till May. That's a gentleman. What did she find out about? April, though. Because that would be... She found out about April.

She found out about April. April, the girl. Yeah. That's the hardest bar of all the time. I love it. That's what's up. Maybe you went over your head. Nah, some people, that's what it does.

It goes overheads and then they say you whack because they didn't get it. This is going to be a rough episode. I stand with LaRessel. I love you, LaRessel. I have to preference this entire thing because I'm about to stand with Vlad as well. That nigga don't never stand with you. of course not in order I give a fuck you know is the internet

where do we even begin on this one I already knew that I should have gotten off Twitter to begin with but this was just a reassurance that this is the internet is just not a place for me anymore I knew everybody was the R word on them but this is like a new level

of that entire thing like reputable like not news outlets but people that are respected on the internet that cover news covered this as if this was real yeah Vlad had tweeted out I have a confession rock nation has been paying me to support Megan they also paid off the jury members to convictory and then they bribed the judge to Jay Z did a verse for his grandson's new album they paid off Megan's doctor to lie about the bullet fragments when she was never shot, the L.A. PD are all on Jay's payroll, and it doesn't stop with L.A.,

but you're not ready to hear that part. Can you make this a little bit bigger, Demaris, because I cannot read small print like that. The Mexican guy who stabbed Tori, who do you think paid him to do that? If you guys look, he had the same last name as Desiree Perez, but they were completely different ethnicities. So it was definitely her cousin.

But you already know the answer to that. The three Supreme Court judges who denied Tory's appeal, all paid off by rock mafia. Jay-Z also paid Trump not to pardon Tory, even though it's a state case. Trump can only pardon federal cases, but we know Trump. He gets a little dicey and weird.

Yeah, he likes to bend the rules. Yeah. So Ho was going to take chances on that because Hove is definitely waking up every day thinking about Tory fucking lanes. I can't keep these lies a secret anymore. If this is my last tweet, you know who silenced me.

Sean Carter. I thought this was, was a hilarious tweet by Vlad because we've kind of echoed a lot of this too with the Tory situation. I've said that Army generals should study what Tori's PR team has done to convince the world that he is innocent. It has been a masterclass in PR that there is a huge part of the internet that like fully, fully believes that. Everything Vlad said I thought was fucking hilarious and I thought maybe would put things in a context of why. a lot of us do think Tory Lane's is guilty because these steps,

not to say there's not corruption in the judicial system. Right. But the steps that would have to go through that I can promise you, Hove and Des don't care this much, is absolutely insane to think about. Now, the internet took that as Vlad giving a confession. They treated this like the Epstein files, which Jay Z is in and is the number one culprit.

Everyone knows that Epstein and Jay, best friends. Right. there was legitimate think pieces from people that are on the news that this was a legitimate tweet. Learn a literacy crisis. That too. I know this is a very minuscule thing, but it is a perfect metaphor of how the internet is really ruining the entire world. How do you interpret? How did AI put a community note of sarcasm?

How can AI pick up on sarcasm before a human being? because people don't want to pick up on sarcasm. People are just looking for their thoughts and the things that they think about people to be true. They're looking for validation of their thoughts and their ideas. So when they see the first sign of that instead of really thinking,

it's like, ah, I knew it. I told you, same shit I've been saying. No, nobody is, that's not what it is. And, you know, people don't understand satire and don't understand sarcasm. You know, they don't understand what somebody is basically putting a. mirror in front of you to show you how stupid you look and sound.

And that's what Vlad did with this tweet. I mean, he was just showing people. In a perfect way. Right. It was showing people just how, you know, silly some of your ideas are and how outlandish some of the things that you people believe really are. And I thought that was a cool way to kind of get the internet going and to just expose the people that, like you said, really don't understand, don't comprehend what's happening,

don't understand tone, don't understand again, satire and things like that. I thought that was a dope way to do it. And of course I looked at all the comments just because I'm curious. And the amount of people that were trying to tell the barbs, what's Tori Lanes' hive called? No idea.

Okay. No idea. I don't even think they have one. Yeah. The Laneses. All of them were, everyone's trying to explain to them that this was sarcasm. And their reply to everything was,

well, two things can be true. And I think Vlad is really trying to tell us them. Oh no, no matter what. Don't get it twisted. No, they thought we were stupid. Yeah, no matter what. They were like, no, you realize Vlad is really trying to tell you something. He's disguising it in sarcasm because this is actually true.

Yeah. I just think that it's just funny that people, to see people in those comments and really like, you know, believe in that and then thinking that, you know, finally, you know, the things we've been saying are valid. And we knew that Jay Z was this guy that was paying all of these. people and he's a creep and we knew that rock nation would crumble and this that and this is like can we just like just a little bit can we just use a little common sense we can you can have your own ideas you can think what you want to think about people but just sprinkle in a little bit of common sense and listen i'm with y'all with a kelsey's bodyguard that wasn't there coming to the stand because that's what i came from first of all that's an old clip and then

very old that that's the funniest part that clip is old flat old flat old flat says something about it telling people like it's old and he wasn't even they was like his her bodyguard that wasn't bodyguarding her at the time and that's when they started saying like oh rock nation is paying you and that's where this tweet came from but it really is scary to know that you are on a platform with people who think like that but and then and then and then you wonder why you know you know again to what la russell said even that is kind of in this too it's like you know what la russell may have been saying he wasn't he wasn't trying to throw shaded wayne they missed the whole part where he was praising wayne and saying Wayne is dope and one of the greatest rapists ever they missed all of that

but this is what this is essentially what social media is it's people that just want to find and clip whatever it is that may give validity to their narratives that they create and that's what this is it's like no matter what like you said well even though now everybody knows that vlad was just, you know, making people look stupid. Two things can be true. Vlad is just saying that because now they're going to say Jay called Vlad and made him say that he was just joking. Like, then it turns into that.

Oh, nah, he wasn't joking. They Rock Nation reached out to him and they threatened him and this, that, and the third. Why do people think Jay is so involved in Rock Nation? I don't know. That nigg is over there being a stay-at-home dad to three. People give him- Too much credit. They give him way.

We are definitely biased. Not saying Jay-Z doesn't have. power and doesn't have influence. Yeah, it's just like, come on, man. Like, it's not what you people think it is. It's really not. Some things are just exactly what they are. There's no conspiracy behind a lot of things.

There is conspiracy is real. But a lot of the times, it's not a part of which I think it is. Do we even want to get into All-Star weekend? We can. Yeah, let's do it. The new format. Cool, I guess, whatever. Get rid of the dunk contest.

You know, bring it to YouTube. bring the dunk contest to YouTube? Yeah, YouTube dunkers, come on. Oh, YouTube dunkers? Let's get some. I don't need to watch NBA players do the shit anymore. And I also don't want to see someone almost break their fucking back live on TV.

Just go to the YouTubers, man. They brought home you up from the magic and made them a player just for one week. Do that again. Yeah. We're here for entertainment. I don't need to see. But it's been trend in this way for a few years,

though, with All-Star Saturday, at a three-point contest. Three-point contest has become the highlight of All-Star Saturday. People don't even care about the dunk contest. I mean, at the All-Star. But this year, even the three-point contest was a little bit lack. It just, the energy around the NBA All-Star weekend is slowly tapering and fading into the lane of the Pro Bowl, of the NFL Pro Bowl.

I don't know anybody that's ever say, y'all I'm going to see as the Pro Bowl was on. I've never heard that. I've never heard anybody said a good to go watch the pro bowl. I used to like the, their version. the skills challenges. Like the pro bowl, when they would do quarterbacks throwing how far they could throw the ball. Receivers would catch, like there used to be fun skills day shit with the pro bowl, but nobody's trying to watch

that. Nobody watched the pro bowl. And they even tried to put it at was it the week before the Super Bowl and then they moved it to the end so more players could be and it's still tanked. But that's different because that's such a physical sport. Like I'm not about to just go outside for play play with football. Because we saw what like Sean Taylor did to a punter that was just trying. He's playing around. He was about to punt.

He's like, no, it's a fake. And then Sean Taylor came in at a four to, two, 40 speed. Yeah, the same thing. And took his fucking head off. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't know if that's the same way. But I don't know. I could do without All Star Weekend now, which is very sad to say.

It is, man. You know, I think the NBA got a fine. I'm not, the format of the actual All Star game wasn't too mad at. I wasn't out of that either. different team world versus team USA and the team USA being split into, you know, the veterans and then a lot of the younger guys. As an American, though. Wasn't mad at that.

Did you feel a little out? As an American? No, I felt proud. I cried. No, I'm glad that stars and stripes were in the finals, but yeah, this is getting, this is getting a little ridiculous. The fact that we even can have this many international players that there's a squad. Nobody's a little mad that the whites are infiltrating the way they are.

I'm the only one. Yeah, we sent the white. White's packing, though. Get them to fuck out of here. Sit y'all right back to the line. Luca, Yokic, all of y'all. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah.

Nah, Wemianna was punting fucking basketball. Wembe is clearly trying to, trying to make a claim to be the best playing the league once, you know. That international squad look. I'm actually, I cannot believe they lost. And to be fair, Luca was, didn't play much. Yokich didn't play much. Yonis didn't play at all.

Like, so, you know, they're, their guys were not really playing. But if you put that. If you put that five and they really play, I think the international team is winning. Luca don't guard, man. Look don't play don't defense. Look who you have next to him. He doesn't need to play defense. He don't guard nobody, man.

Great game. I love his game, but he don't guard nobody. I'm always going to take the best in Team USA. Healthy Steph Curry, LeBron, Jalen Brown, Kowai. you know, give me those guys and I'm cool. Team world are good, but I just think it's different with a healthy. That's a serious game. I think that goes a different way.

I like the format, though. I wasn't mad at the format, but All-Star Saturday, they need to do something with the Skills Challenge, with the Three-Point Contest, with Dunk Contest. The dunk contest can go. Let's just be honest. Which is great, because that's the- That was the draw.

That's the main event. It used to be. People used to say, you know, the Skills Challenge, and even the three-point contest can go. I've seen some people wanting to bring the one-on-one. The girls did it, man. Y'all are looking pussy. The women did one-on-one.

It's different for the guys. I'm going to tell you why. Because. Male ego. Well, yes. But if I'm a signature shoe athlete, if I'm a Nike athlete, I have my signature shoe, and I enter the one-on-one contest and I get smoked, that looks bad for the brand.

Like, that looks bad. And nobody's beating Kyrie. Kyrie wants to be in a one-on-one conscious every year. Nobody's been to carry-year. Like, let's just put that out there. He would win every year. But I think that- Dan would be a good matchup with him.

I would take Kyrie, but I think Dame would be a good matchup. Nobody's beating Kyrie one-on-one, bro. He has the best handle that I've ever seen. Nobody's been-carry-1-1-1-1-1. Yeah. So I just think that brands, I think Nike would be apprehensive. Now, if you put guys in that don't have a signature shoe and say the winner gets a signature shoe from Nike or Adidas,

I think that makes it interesting. Do you think that's why superstars haven't been in the dunk contest the way they were when Jordan was in it or Vince Carter was in it? Because now if Kobe, rest in peace, or Braun, like now you're, if you don't show out the way of Vince or Mike did, does that kind of deflate the brand a little bit? Not the brand. Because the jump man really came from the dunk contest. Yeah, but I think the dunk contest, I think a lot of guys are that stage of being out there all-star Saturday night by yourself. and trying to be creative. And, you know, it's a lot of pressure.

I think a lot of guys shy away from that. They don't want that big of a stage for themselves. I think that that can be, you know, it's like, now I've got to think of some shit to do that they haven't seen. We've had, what, how many dunk, 40-something dunk contest maybe? And now I'm trying to think of a cool way to do something that they haven't seen. It's a lot of pressure on an athlete. It's a different era. Like, I would even give Bronn, like, a lot of grace in that regard.

This era of dunk contest, like I've never even looked at LeBron like that type of dunker where it's gotten. Like when Vince was doing the shit, I would feel like Braun would have to be there if he was in that era. But yeah, now the shit is, you have to be so creative outside of this dunk contest. They literally just dunk the ball. But I hear you. I don't think superstars in this era need to do the shit. Maybe that's the problem. I think that stage, that stage of being out there alone is a lot for a lot of players.

And they don't want that pressure on them to go out there and, you know, entertain. I'd rather play in the game. Three point contest is a little different. I just got to shoot. It's not much creativity and just shooting throes. I think if the superstars sponsored some of the YouTube dunkers, like the way Tracy McGrady was throwing al-oops to Vince Carter. Like if Bronn finds his favorite YouTube dunker and he's the one throwing the al-oops,

like he's involved on the court with him. I think that brings in the element of creative dunks and you still get the all-stars that are out there. Yeah, they got to find something. I think that could be kind of cool. I think it's over for the dunk contest. I think we get it out of here, let a few years go by, you know, find something else to kind of, you know,

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Rory, I'm here. I'm here to talk about Brent Fires, new album, Icon, I'm here to stir up the internet. I'm here to get y'allowed up in the studio. I don't care who gets mad. Are you trying to go viral? No, I'm not trying to go viral. That's what they say. But I think it may go viral.

I'm here to have the Brent being a better... Okay, let me not say better. Hold on. Can we start with ICON? Before we get to what you said off mic that we won't get to. Brent fires icon incredible. Incredible album. I have not stopped listening to it.

That's all I listened to all weekend. I love the fact that it was only 35 minutes. I like that. He's not trying to get him sexy y'all out for an hour and 47 minutes. he ain't doing they're not playing that game I'm gonna get out of these 10 joints and I'm getting out of him getting out y'all way incredible

I saw Demaris in the group text told him when Rory said I don't know what the internet what was the internet saying about the album and outside of what happened with Vlad and me finding out the internet is the R word when I went and listened to that Brent album after I watched Twitter maybe I need to change my algorithms because the way they were talking about this Brent album

I was like damn my god didn't deliver I'm about to step out there and say it may be the best Brent album, period. Wait, they're saying he didn't deliver on this one? So a lot of people were disappointed. That album is so fucking good. I'm so much too good. A lot of people were disappointed and I can understand why they were disappointed. And it's because Brent is known for a particular niche in his music and that niche is toxicity,

hardcore toxicity. This album did not have the hardcore Brent toxicity that they're used to. Well, sometimes you need to reflect and realize that you're looking for love and all the wrong faces. No, that's what's up. But the narrative that I did see a lot of people say is that You know, you do have to have a niche or a gimmick when you're not that vocally talented. Brent is not a songstress. But he's not. He doesn't have strong vocals. So it's like you're known for this and then you switch.

So you're now singing. A lot of these niggas ain't got strong vocals. That niggas think got strong vocals. Yeah, very true. I'm talking about the music. It's the music, baby. The music. Okay.

And see, this is why you can never please fans. And that's hypocritical coming from us because we're very critical. artist, but everyone says Brent is a one-trick pony switches up the production and carries it with his vocals, because I agree with you. I don't even think Brent would say he's the strongest vocalist. He's a vibe and a lyricist.

He's what they call a crooner. He's a crooner. Who else is a crooner? Give me another example. A crooner? Trace songs? Tray will be considered a crooner. He would be considered a crooner. It's a few crooners out there.

Arkellie is a crooner. No, R. Kelly is a... No, no, no, no. We've had this argument before. Al Kelly can sing. We're not doing that. We're not going to go back to that. We're not doing that.

Our Kelly's not a crooner. He's a nasty son of a bitch. 100%. He can sing his ass. One of the better vocalists of our life. That's a singing ass, nasty ass motherfucker right there for sure. Yeah. But I think Brent switched up what people were kind of criticizing him about when it came to

production. It's a lot of the same shit. You're just leaving a bunch of space. It's eerie and weird. Like, that's why I asked you in the group chat. Is it too. human nature for you? This album is incredible. I was listening to one song and I was like, ooh, this is giving

Michael. There's a few that have that. I mean, Raphael Sadie was definitely on production. He gave us some Frank on there too, though. Pause. He got it to his Frank. Now, say what you was going to say. Say what you was going to say. I just want to, before we get to that, I just want to highlight how amazing this Brent album is. I just want to start there. I don't know which y'all are listening to,

which I thought y'all were listening to or which I were expecting to listen to when this album dropped. This Brent album is incredible. This is incredible. I was, I'm on the side of word. This might be his best project. I'm on that. Not ready to say it yet, but it crossed my mind.

I'm saying it. Sometimes you're going to say it. What are this? I'll even say it's February, but the standouts? It's going to be a rough year for R&B album of the year if Brent is starting the year out this way.

Really? I think, are you like a Brent fan though? I like Brent. Because I understand people that are not Brent fans. I think Brent's talent said that what he does. I can see why he's not really. This album is crazy. Certain people.

people's cup of tea. Like, I get that. If you're not a Brent fan, I'm not here to convince you to be one. I'm saying if you are a Brent fan, how do you feel about it? The standard, the standouts to me were four seasons, strangers. Those are the standouts to me. What? Have to them butterflies? What are you? Are you not listening to the music? Are you okay? Get into the music, baby, D. Okay. Half two butterflies. Other side. Other side is crazy. Four seasons. This, Nick, this album is crazy. I don't know which I wanted. I love the sense, the 80s sense that he got on here. I love the ready for the world type of vibe he'd given us.

See, if you ain't never had a bad miss topple us in a convertible, you wouldn't understand this vibe. Okay. This ain't for you. Go somewhere else. Everything ain't for everybody. This is what this is. This is for niggas that got bad bitches.

If you ain't got no bad bitches, I expect you to not like this. Go listen to them other niggas. That ain't got no bad bitches. Okay. This is for the bad bitches having this ass niggas. This is what this is. And if you're searching for bad bitches, I still feel like it's for you. Yeah.

All the bad bitches, baby, do you like this album? We're not doing that. I'm going to listen to it again. I didn't say that I dislike it. No, it's not my favorite Brent project, but I'm not going to say that I dislike it. I have to listen to it again. I've only heard it once. I have to digest it.

Only once. I've only heard it once. I played it today when I was doing my makeup. Oh, no, no, no, no, baby, Dee. Okay. You got to get into the music. Okay. You got to let it play.

You got to put the crock pot on You got to put this album on This is not crock pop music Shit This is not crock pot music You put it on Now if somebody got a line for me This is cocaine music

This ain't crock pop music It is but you ain't always got to be doing coke You could just be chilling You could just be in the house drinking wine And West Eye Gun has cooked a brick And the crock pop before You gotta put that You gotta leave that bitch on low

Like yeah All the way down I'm gonna give it another try No, this album is crazy. This album, this might be Brent's best album. I'm ready to say this is the best album. My only thing is, well, I do love that it's short. I think we could have let the music just vibe a little bit more.

He could have gave us 44 minutes, 10 more minutes. Okay. He could have gave us 10 more minutes. But I'm not, this album, incredible, man. I'm being kind of quiet because I don't want to jump out of the window. And that's what you good at. This album, no, like, it's perfect as is. The shit is flawless.

This album is so fucking good. This album is fucking crazy. To me. I'm gonna keep it real. I can't believe he made this album. That's how good this shit is. All right. Let's have the conversation.

I cannot believe that. As a Brent fan, I didn't know he was this good. Yo, this nigga, yo, he didn't, he went to a whole other, listen, he tapped into a whole another thing with this album. This shit is crazy. The attention to detail, the fucking, the, the, the, the, the substance. La Russell, how do you feel about this? The substance is there.

You should have turned blood. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck do y'all. Y'all on the Internet saying this album is trash? I've seen love for it and I've seen hate for it. And I've also seen Brent fan. Ladies, did y'all hear Pam and Gina. Did you have the album? We did not.

We're excited. What y'all be listening to? I like Brent. Jay Cole? Who the fuck cares about what Jay Cole thinks? I like this. At a time like this time like this, Brin is out. Who cares with Jake Coe thinks?

I listen to Brett, but I haven't had a chance. but you have me sold maw listen to this listen to this album what's up because you don't got no bitches so i'm trying to feel oh shit oh shit she said no has no bitches i'm just saying that's what he says on on the mic never got no host all right i'm not i don't have women that i'm having sex with i have beautiful female friends anytime that i hang out you do this and hit every syllable you liar no no i'm trying to give it i make sure that you are i'm making sure you i'm I'm feeding what I'm giving you. You're picking up what I'm putting down.

The standout track on the album. Standout track is funny. I don't know. It would be four seasons. That's the one that R&B now has for Apple Music. It would be four seasons. Oh, I mean, whatever they said. Now, get the, have two butterflies.

What's the track? Pull up this. What is this? What is this shit? I switched it to Jill Scott because I thought y'all were done. No, get Jilly. We're going to get Jilly to Philly. We're going to get to Jilly and Philly.

But hold on. Yeah. Have to Butterflies. Other side. Strangest world It's only 10 tracks So it's real quick Bray gonna get in

He's gonna get in and get out He ain't gonna play around He's getting right to it Soon as he said Take me from the top Is it good fucking music I don't care What you do to this shit

Just play this motherfucker This nigga This song This album is incredible I don't Yo listen Do not listen to anybody Anybody that says

This album is trash Unfollow them Block them stop because they just on a whole different frequency that you don't need to be a part of. Yeah, I ain't never seen you like somebody this much. This album is fucking crazy. I agree with everything, Mallisay.

I think even stronger than he thinks about this shit. But you do that with everything. He don't. No. I don't do that shit with everything. I promise you, listen. I just tore down your man's second disc last week. Yeah, not my man.

It's not just my man. Listen, don't do that. Don't do that. It's crazy. Don't do that. This album is so good. This album is so good. I was playing it, cleaning the crib, getting shit together.

But it's also only 30, 34, 35 minutes. Took that shit back. No. So what happened was when it ended, it went into like another R&B. You know, when you're playing R&B that going to nothing. I'm like, the whole vibe was different. I was like, why he put this in on? Then I went in my phone.

That ain't even the album. It's over. So I went back and I'm like, yo, he just gave us those 10 songs like that and got out of there? 12. But yeah. It's 12 songs? Yeah. Oh, well, whatever.

I went to the director's cut. I don't know if you did. Yeah. This album, yo, shout out the Brent. Shout out to the team. Whoever worked on this project, y'all niggas went in there and did what the fuck y'all was supposed to do. Y'all went in there.

Y'all put that shit together and yeah, got out of there. We're not going to play around and give y'all all of these bells and whistles unless, you know, go after radio and fuck that shit. We're going to get y'all 12 tracks, fire, and we're going to let you get back to whatever y'all. And then go back to Cole. Then you can go back to Cole and the fall off. you can get back into that, but listen to that icon album. That shit is incredible.

As a Brent fan, I still had Brent in one category. I like larger than life a lot. He tried to get out of what the stereotypical Brent sound was. But still, I still put Brent over here. This album, to me, puts Brent in a different conversation with R&B artists. Yo, listen, man, I'm here for, baby. I love Frank Ocean, too. I love Frank Ocean, too.

And this is where things are going to get weird. I love Frank Ocean, too. But if Frank decide he on. never want to give us nothing else. As long as Brink keep doing this, we're going to be a right. We're going to be a right. It's a strong thing to stay.

We're going to put Brit on the Coachella stage. Let her come out there, put that nigga in the old Cadillac with four bad bitches. Drive that motherfucker through the desert. Let Brent do what the fuck he do. This nigga's a vibe. I'm fucking with Brent. You don't think Frank would put

four bad dudes in the actor? And that ain't my algorithm. That's all I'm saying. That is just not my algorithm. You don't think Frank Capone? I'm not just saying that just ain't my algorithm. I'm not saying. If that's your algal, that's your algal. That's not mine.

That's all I'm saying. Four, Forrest gums in the back? I'm fucking with this. Baby, D. You got to get it. What you? It was Valentine. I get it.

You was on a different vibe. I was on a different vibe. Maybe I got to know. Maybe I got to hear it again. Are you going to go. All right. I'm calling you out on the mic. Are you going to say what you said off mic on the microphone right now?

What did I say? Me? Yeah, you. What did I say? No, he said, if Frank never puts a project out, we're going to be all right. That's not what he said off the mic. What did I say? You said Brent has surpassed Frank Ocean.

Yes. Yes, I feel like that. I feel like that. Frank has given us great songs, great albums, but we don't know what he on. We don't know if he's going to show up. We don't know if he's going to put a project out. But that doesn't take away what he has done. No, I'm not taking nothing away for Frank Ocean.

Incredible artists. I'm just saying when you start playing these Brent albums, Icon put him in a different Different category for me I don't think it's an insane take But it's I get it The volume is different The amount of projects between Sondra and Brent

Is surpasses Frank But how many artists have a blonde How many artists have a channel orange How many artists have a nostalgia ultra I get it? I get it Like those three projects are so fucking flawless K-AIDS I get all of that

What does cocaine 80s have to do it? I'm just saying I'm just saying, that's, that's Frank. No, that's James and no ID. What was the one with Frank? The, uh, the mixtape. Nostalgiaulture. Yeah.

That shit. Oh my God. Incredible. Incredible. Incredible. But we're not going to act like the projects, the albums that Brent been dropping over the last however many years. Fire.

All of them have been crazy. Yes, but there's a, it's, of course, they're crazy. But there's a reason why Frank is upholded the way that Frank is upheld. A lot of that shit be, you know, other things. I'm just talking about just the music. What things? What things? I mean, you know, it'd be other things that they, you know, I'm just talking about the music. Are you saying that Frank is giving extra credit because he's gay? No. See, look how fast. I was asking. That's what I took from it. What? That's exactly what I took from it. See, y'all are part of the problem on the internet.

Y'all's food. They need to ban y'all count. You're all. Yeah, it's your full. Why? No, that's not what I'm saying. Oh, okay. I'm just saying when you, what the things were. I'm just saying when you get pulled for a hook. I thought Ivy was just incredible. When you get pulled in for a hook with, you know, Kanye and Jay and the dream and up, yeah, you're going to get put in that level where it's like, oh, shit. Like, you put Brent right

there too. He's going to perform. He going to show out. I think the work hook is just as iconic as no church in the wild. What he did with Golding? I see money all around me. I feel like on the, I think that's just as iconic. I don't know what you're saying there. No, I'm just, if we get

okay, if we get two more of those. let us get two more those let bring it two more those i'm gonna have to just put on channel orange while we leave the and i just want y'all no no you putting on the wrong shit there you go again back peddling icon you putting on shit we already got icon frank is not active so i don't even really want to entertain this conversation too much i think icon did put brent ahead of a lot of the male rmb active singers right now it's different This album is incredible, man. I'm talking my shit, but this album is incredible.

Like, I really, I'm, I was more, I mean, we were all anticipating an album because we all fuck with Brent, but like. I didn't think it was a beat as good. Yeah, I didn't think it was going to do. I really did. This is an incredible album. Oh. Like, I don't know who, if he got a new team or producers and whoever sequenced this

motherfucker, y'all niggas went in there and did, which I was supposed to do. Shout out to his entire team, because they, this icon album is all of that. This shit is fire. I'm fucking with this project. Oh, shout out to him. Well, I mean, yeah, it definitely helps when you have Raphael Sadiq, Benny Blanco, Mike Dean. You just got the guys. I got Fave, shout to Fave.

Like, yeah, there's some producers on here. I can, and I, the Raphael's, you can hear it. You can feel the Raphael Sadiq. You can fill all of that in there. Which, they said that, though, but I'm looking at, this is Wikipedia, so don't quote me. I don't see Raphael Sadiq on any of this, but that was like the press run that they put out. Raphael was in the studio, just because he was in the studio. Executive producer, he was Diddy in it, pause.

Even if he wasn't, the fact that he was just in that motherfucker, just the energy. Yeah. See, sometimes you just need to write people in the room. Yeah, maybe they confused it and maybe Sean EP'd it because he does the Sadiq party. Maybe that's what they were. That's where they were getting that. Oh, you know what? I never knew that Raphael Sadeek's real name wasn't Raphael Sadiq.

So let me go back to this now and find Wiggins. No, still not there. Yeah, I don't know. But it sounded like Raphael Sadiq all over that shit. Fired. Baby D. Trust me on this one. I'm going to give it another chance. And I didn't say it was bad.

I just, I didn't get with like, y'all were upholding it like that shit was thriller. I'm like, okay, I didn't get that. I see how fast? You see how fast? You see how fast?

I said Frank Ocean, you said MJ. We're not doing that. Rory said, is it too human nature for you? He said that. Okay, but you know what I meant. See, this is why I hate when people take shit out of context.

You know what I meant when I said human nature. That, that sonically, there's like two or three records that are in that bag. Sometimes people don't like that bag unless it's from Michael. No, I wasn't comparing it to human nature. Oh, okay.

You know, see, I don't even like this because you knew what I meant. Thanks for clear that. Now you're just doing this shit on the mic. You knew what I meant when I said that. How was Joe Scott's album? Joe Scott, I'm sorry, Jilly for Philly. I didn't get to Jilly from Philly for Philly.

I didn't get into Jilly from Philly. I definitely did and... Be honest. Did she deliver? She did, but here's the problem. This is going to sound. I only gave it two listens because I was listening to Brent all fucking weekend. I couldn't get past the Brent album, but I listened to it twice.

I think it's great. It's long. Do you really think it's great? Yeah, no, I really do. There are some moments where, you know, I'm probably going to skip, but I do love the positivity. Is she rapping on this? Oh, you know, her and T.R. Wack on Northside. I was a little nervous when I saw on Northside just because what Vince Staples has created

with that brand. And I know, I know Tierra Wack and Jill are from north side of Philly. But when you throw the F on that, I was like, all right,

you guys have some shoes to fill even though Joe Scott is a legend. DJ Premier produced that one. That record is fucking nuts. They went nuts. It's great. I do want to like give it its proper. Listen.

Yeah. Because it is, it's an hour and some change. It's a lot of music and a lot of content. But I did, I did love. love it. Absoe came in with the sun, stars, and the moon. He got on his astrology shit,

per usual, but no, I really did like it. How was the J. ID track? It was great. And it had me thinking, it takes J.I.D. forever to give somebody a verse. I wonder how quickly he gave Joe Scott this verse. Oh, that nigga was. Julie from who? Yeah, I'm in the studio. Don't even trip. But no, it is really, really good. Some of my favorite joints, sincerely do the outro. is incredible, to be honest. The, which was the one with Tierra Wack, Northside is incredible. I think too short killed. Really?

B-P-O-T-Y. Really? That would have been one of my favorite joints on there. And I get it, but it didn't need short, which is kind of sad to say. But, yeah, they could have left short off that shit. Beautiful people is incredible. Overall, I do love it. And I do want to give it a proper review on Thursday when we record after you guys listen to it as well.

But yeah, Brent kind of took over my weekend. Okay. But no, there's joints on there for sure. Well, after I listened to Brent this morning, I was on my new music shit. So I immediately went into A Boogie with the hoodie EP. And I just want to say that for over a decade, A Boogie has been making better music than the rest of you, niggas. I just want to let that be clear. They got a lot of children's out of you.

Every single time, bro. I don't know if it's New York bias. Every single time this nigga comes on with new music, I was sent up there immediately just start bouncing. I'm like, yo, he do it every single time. That PGD with Kyle Rich and Zetty Will to the young holes. I know that the young whole trend is a thing. To the young holes, all of your TikToks should be to that song.

It's PGD, which is girls just want to party get drunk. Oh my God. I said, I feel young again. I feel young again. So his EP before artistry, please, please, please. please go check that out if you fuck with, even if you don't fuck with A Boogie. I don't know as a EP. I'm happy as an EP.

Six. Six tracks? My ride home. Huh? Yeah, six songs? Yes. I want to A. Boogie.

Shout out the high bridge. Yeah. Still. I know he says Bronx Legends all the time, but A Boogie is a Bronx legend. Yes. He does not get the crime of the biggest Bronx legends. I would love.

A lot of y'all niggas is his sons and daughters. Mad facts. Sons and daughters. This hindsight is always 20-20. I wish A. Boogie would have. executive produced Bobby Schmurter's first project when he got out of jail. Makes sense.

I really, like, if A. Boogie got in that studio and kind of took reins of how to put a project together, I think we'd be looking at a different trajectory with Bobby right now. Not that wild video he just fucking posted. I'm going to say it every year. A. Boogie, Dawn Q need an album together. I mean, they have. Nah, they need an album. They have a thousand songs. Nah, you mean, y'all niggas need to get.

I love Don Q. A whole album. Don Q's project looks like A Boogie has kind of EP those as well. A Boogie could save New York if you guys would just listen. Save New York. No, that's so because you think I'm joking. I'm not joking. Boogie could save the city.

He's one of the few artists from that from his generation because he's been out, like I said, for over a decade. A Boogie's one of the artists from his generation where he had, he still has his sound, but he does not sound dated. So many artists from 2015, 2016, 2016, 2017, there sounds, they sound like, it sounds like that time and it sounds dated to me. He still sounds like himself, but he does not sound dated, bro. Like, he's, he's amazing. I will always go hard for A Buggy, so please go listen to Before Artistry.

If you get the chance, six tracks, that's nothing. He got a trippy red on there, Kyle Rich, Zetti Will, sorry. Other than that, it's just him singing, rapping, saying real shit. I fuck with it. Saying real shit is hilarious. Saying real shit. A-Book, you're saying real shit in his? He do.

He always has. Bitch, I'm drowning? No, my niggas said. What my nigger said. What he said, baby, Dee. When he said, I got 99 problems and messages. Don't be asking me why I don't text you, bitch. Wrap your legs around me like we wrestling.

Get on your knees. Don't you be so damn hesitant? What? I got 99 problems and messages. Don't be asking me why I don't text you, bitch, for show. He sounded like me. You, ain't been using my bag with that one? Yeah.

So can you say to fuck off my Instagram? I don't know why my phone always in your hand. Right. Mind your business. Oh, my God. On your business, you know I'm a businessman. Right. Y'all be listening to A. Bougy, bro.

See what I'm not a business man? I'm a businessman. A. Boogie. See, see, see, she had a white boy always. They're going to always find a way. He was showing out all everywhere. Yeah, man. Shout out the A.

I just infiltrated the culture. Shout out the A boogey, man. I'm going to check that joint out. I definitely am. And again, we just need, maybe Meryl could get on this. Now that he's running hot 97, we need Bogie to be the Gucci man of New York City. If you're a new artist, Joey badass, get with A-Buggy. He needs the EP every New York City album moving forward.

Do we have voicemails? Of course we do. Sponsored by Boosmobile Unlimited Talk Dex and da-da. You've got mail. I'm in a bit of a sticky situation, man. I want to ask my girl if she'll peg me, if she'll fuck me with a strap on. Now, I know that sounds crazy. I know what sounds like I'm on some free.

some fruity loops or some shit like that. Let me not judge. Man, some girl that I used to fuck with back in the day, she pegged me. And on God, that shit felt, it felt different, gang. It felt different. Don't gang me.

It honestly felt better than the blow job. It felt better than normal fucking, real talk. And I've just been chasing that sensation ever since, but I'm just scared, you know. I'm scared that the girl I'm talking to, if I ask her, she's going to fucking tell everybody, that I'm gay or some shit or she's going to just leave me

or she's going to fucking think I'm a loser or something shit, man. But man, I've been chasing that feeling ever since, y'all. Honestly, man. Like, I feel for every dude out there because I think we're missing out, man.

We miss it out. Oh, peace and love, y'all. Peace of love. Don't peace and love me, fam. Don't peace and love me after that. I don't want to love you. Much peace or love. Let's not kink shame and let's also thank him for his vulnerability.

Why can I be like that kink is crazy? Can we appreciate his vulnerability? You just as gay forgetting your ass say as he is for getting fucked in it. That's what I was about to start with. You are an advocate of getting your diaper change. The next step is getting pegged. That's not the next. See, that's what I would like to think the next step is.

That's not the next step. I'm just saying there's some people who would shame your kink. But it's not a kink though. I'm not saying I need that and I'm chasing that sensation every time I have sex. I'm just saying girls just, they end up doing it. I don't ask for it. I'm like, okay, go ahead. Go get you some.

You just raise your leg a little bit. I mean, I'm going to help you out. If I see you looking under the bed for the remote, I'm going to move the blanket. That's all. You just sitting there for the airplane going like this. That's all. I'm going to lift the blanket up here. You see it?

You got it? That's all. Damn, but this dude here, though. Don't, all right. Ask him to ask, how should he ask the girl? You should not ask the girl at all. I think you should. No, you should not.

Don't listen to her. She's gay. You should not ask a girl to peg you. Nine times out of ten is going to turn the woman off. She's not going to be into it. I'm just helping you out, bro. Let's just be honest here. We're giving him solid advice.

Most women are not comfortable with their men asking them to peg them. Let's just be real. We got three women and ladies. Are you comfortable with that? They both done it. I think that he should. Yes or no. Yes or no.

Are you comfortable? Yes or no. comfortable with that? Yes, we're doing that. Yes or no. No. There's two nose over there. But how I can, but he could just ask her what kink she's into.

She ain't into that king. She ain't into that. You're not into that. Yes or no. Baby D. Are you into that? She's homophobic. I am not.

Don't put that what the fuck. Baby D. Are you into it if your man asks you to peg him? Is that my thing? No, but if I was married and that's what he wanted, then I would explore it. Demaris, you said you could never. even be with a man that has sucked a dick before or was vicarious. No, because that's different. Getting, getting pegged is vicarious. I'm talking. You having an attraction to men,

you have an attraction to men being bisexual is completely different from you liking to get pegged. That's completely different. If you want to get pegged by a woman, that's completely different. That's like there's lesbian. There's lesbians, there's lesbians who are not attracted to men and would never have sex with a man, but they use strap-ons. That doesn't make them straight because they're using a fake dick. That doesn't make them straight. They're still attracted to women. They just like the... I'm joking.

They just like the sensation. No, I get that. And what lesbians are gay? Yes, because they're attracted to each other. If a strap-on enters your ass, you would be... No, that doesn't, it doesn't link up like that. There's no... You can't draw that comparison.

Never mind. I'm not King Shane. That's where your G-Spot is. Yeah. I don't care where my G-spot is. It's not by... It's not my curious. And then, like, she puts a tongue in it, then a finger.

No, see, you see, no, no, no, you see the gradual? I don't graduate. We're not doing that. No, it ain't no finger. No tassel is going to do. Yeah, well, yeah, finger and tongue, then it's a peg. No, that's not, we're not doing that. A lot of men like being pegged, though, it's a thing.

Yeah, so that's a lot of men. It could be a big thing. It could be a small little, like, butt plug. Yeah. A butt plug. With the diamond on this, then? If I'm pegging you with a little dildo, it's the same as a tongue. It's a stiff tongue.

No, it's not everybody. Who's teaching y'all this? It's a dildo. It's not the same. I'm just, I love what ideas. What's his name? No, we don't want to say his name.

I'm not Kimmer. Different strokes for different folks. If that's how you get down, cool, but I'm kind of with the room here. Unless she brings that up, she's going to look at you. I personally wouldn't ask her that

because I think she's going to look at you. You could fill her out. You could be like, yo, like you ever like peg somebody? And then if she gets disgusted, if she gets disgusted, if she gets disgusted turned off,

like, He's going to say, yeah, that's crazy, right? His dream. His dream is crazy. He's going to be like, yeah, no, that's nuts. He's been chasing that sensation. Yeah, there are websites where you can go to to get that sensation outside of that relationship. But if that's something that you're going to.

What website is this? Wouldn't that be cheating? No, I don't think they're in a relationship. I think they're just dating. Okay. But, you know, if that's something you're going to be chasing for the rest of your life, eventually you're going to cheat on me with somebody that's fucking you and ass. So just ask me from the very beginning.

Just ask me from the very beginning. Can you imagine DeMaris's reaction if she found out her man was cheating by getting fucked in the ass? Do you think she'd sound as liberal as she sounds right now? No. Not at all. I think she would come here with a whole different hair color, all kind of shit. Using the F word.

Anything to rinse that nigga out of her soul. I'm putting it on me. Anything to rinse that nigga out of her soul. She'll come in here with a whole different look. I need that energy from that demon off of me. I don't know. I guess to try to give like real advice, if you ease it. into the ass eating or a finger there

and then maybe I don't know just no I've never asked someone to pay me I'm fucking know to get pleasure because he's supposed to be scared to ask for it I'm not shaming him at all in that regard I just don't think you should ask that girl that I'm thinking yeah that's what I'm saying I don't think he should ask that I don't think the girl is going to be into that and I think she's going to

stop fucking with him and she's going to form a group chat and then his new nickname is going to be peg boy yep like okay okay so my point is my point is if he wants to be pleasure and if that's something that you really, really want, then you should be with somebody and dating somebody who's willing to sexually satisfy you. If that person is not willing to sexually satisfy you, then leave. There's some people that I don't like, they mouth's getting squirted in. Do some people need

to be with them? No, you leave and you go to the next person. Here's my thing. I don't mind that, but it's not an end-all, be-all if I like somebody. If she doesn't want to squirt on my face, I'm like, that's not a deal-breaking for me. No, what I'm saying is for the person, for the person who does that, if you're dealing with somebody who's like, ew, squirting is disgusting. I don't want that. you don't need to be with them. True. But is that a deal breaker? Like, if squirting disappears from my relationship that I love, I'm not going to leave.

Okay, but I'm talking about from the woman's perspective. You keep talking from your perspective. From the woman's perspective, if that's something that she does and that's something that she's into, why would you ever go be with somebody? No matter whether they talk about you and call you pissy mattress or not, if that's something that you do and that's you're into, you need to be with somebody who's into the same things as you. And you will never know until you ask.

So just ask. It's a very mature way of putting it in here. Yeah. Like just ask, okay, so what? She called you peg boy. So what? That's what you're into. That's what the fuck you're into.

Like people need to stop. That's why we need to stop kink shaming so that people can be more. And that's why I also say stop STD shaming. Because people need to be able to be open about what the fuck they have going on sexually so that everybody else knows and people can stop being shamed for it. People can just be open. That's why. Be open with your shit. I respect.

If you got AIDS, you should tell me. Well. Yes, Rory. I agree with you. I was going to the extreme. No, I get it. You always got to go to the whole other end of the spectrum. Yes.

I do feel like a fisherman can always spot another fisherman. I feel like he knows the girls that are down for the peg. And I feel like he already knows that she's not into that. That's why he left the voicemail. The girls, wasn't one of them talking about pegging somebody with New York boots on or something like that? Weren't they talking about that? Well, he wanted that. He wanted that.

You saw how they were laughing. laughing at that gentleman. No, they said they did it and then they stopped talking to him, right? I don't know if they went like that. I don't know if they did it and then stopped talking to him. Oh, okay. Because I thought they said they did it for money and then they stopped talking to him. No, I think once he sent money, they stopped talking to him.

Oh, okay. Something like that. I don't think they actually went through it and did it though. He paid for the peg and didn't get the bag? Just got laughed at on a new Roy and Warram podcast. Listen, man, you know, this is what we do here. We're community. We're building community here.

Okay, well, then I mean, how do you bring up your kinks to the person you're dating? How do I bring up my kinks? Yeah. I don't. They usually just, you know. In real time. They just hit the spots. Facility.

Okay. Yeah. You know what they're doing? Gotcha. Okay. No? Demaris? Me?

I ask, I think it's what their porn history is and who their favorite porn star is and what their porn. I ask what your porn hub search, and that's usually we'll tell you a lot about people. Okay. So if your porn hub search, which is big busty Latinas. You don't got no business being with me. Okay. I'm the exact opposite.

I have no bust. BBW. I am not a BBW. I'm saying what that means he shouldn't be with you either. So his porn history should match who you are? When it comes to the type of per- But I'm not, I don't care about who you're looking at. I'm talking about what you're looking at.

What are you looking for in the porn? Not who you're looking at. Who you're looking at is just who you're attracted to. What are they doing there? Same shit I'm trying to do in the bedroom. I'm trying to go, I'm trying to go remake all of this shit in the bedroom. Yeah, all of this shit they just did, 930, meet me and there. Yeah.

I don't think porn matches what you want with your significant other all the time. Not all the time, but it shows the real, what really turns you on. I've watched some gangbang shit before I would never want my girl to be involved in. myself as well. I don't, I don't subscribe to fucking women with other men. You go and search gang bang? No,

but it's, it's been, you know, in the four-you page. So when I say your search, not what comes up, your search, what are you looking to?

What are you going for? I don't know if I've really searched. Like, I just go with the, what's there. And then I go down that route. It's certain, there's certain players I'm looking for.

Certain athletes I'm looking for. I'll call it right to her. Like, where she at? I don't want it to see nothing, no advertisement. She dropped today? Yeah, like I don't want to see no advertisement, none of that. Let me get right to where she's at.

Whatever she's doing, we're going to find out. I don't know what she's doing in this scene. I've never seen this one before. And then you got your favorite scenes from your favorite ones that you know. You got the bookmarks. Yeah, you know what she's about to get into, yeah. Right. But I'm not into the orgy in the shower.

I'm like, I'm cool. Never doing that. Just a waste of water. Seven niggers, two girls. What are we doing? It's stinking here. That's what the steam is for. It's like, what we doing it here?

It's shit smelled crazy. I'm not doing that. Editing porn must be funny. I don't go to edits porn. It's a friend of mine. We should interview her. I have so many questions. Yeah.

Quickly though, Obama said aliens are real and then the interviewer just went on to the next question like, would you have for dinner last night? No, he didn't do that. He said he'd never seen him.

There's no area 51. He said, unless they kept it top secret from the president, he didn't see or know any about any of that. The second most famous... Like he would tell us if it was. The second most famous... president in our country's history

casually said, yeah, aliens are real. And the world didn't stop. Why would they? The interviewer was like, eh, anyway. We all know aliens are real. I thought that was like a, like we all knew. If you don't think aliens are real, I don't know what you're doing with your life.

I mean, yes. I think the IRS is a scam. We all know that. If the president said, yeah, we'd all go, wait. We know it's true, but the fact that you just said that shit. Yeah, yeah, it's a different. It's definitely.

Casually saying aliens are... This is not a movie. Yeah. Obama said aliens are real the way we just talked about the Vlad shit. Oh yeah, now, Vlad, he was crazy. Are you out of your fucking... President Barack Obama said aliens are real. And we went about our fucking day.

We went back to the Brent album. That's not fucking insane to y'all? What we gonna do? I knew that. I was waiting for Barack to confirm it. I would, the whole interview would have had to start. Like, my follow questions are, bro. I don't care what.

Take that cute card, throw that shit up the window. I don't care about your daughter, Michelle. I don't care about anything going on. What did you just say? And he said his first question his president was, we're the aliens. He said that was his first president. All right, where's the aliens? I want to see him.

This shit got me thinking the Epstein shit is fucking everybody over. Oh, man. What a world we live, man. Okay, maybe I'm the only one that just thinks that's absolutely. No, I'm with you. I'm right there. What we going to do, man? I'm with you, though.

I get it. Distractions. I understand. Before we leave, we do want to send a rest in peace to Sheney. Sheney Curry. We lost her last week. I know that you, Rory, had a close relationship with her. I know Pige had a relationship with her as well.

But we did lose her last week. So we do want to send condolences and prayers to her family and anybody, any of her friends and close loved ones. I know that can be a heavy loss losing somebody so young, so full of life and vibrant and energetic at such a young age. So rest and peace of Sheenay Curry and our prayers and condolences with her family. Yeah, absolutely. And I want to say with her closest, closest friends, they have been so strong in representing her so well to the rest of the world of who she was. So I do want to give, I don't like the word shout out, but more strength and prayers to her really close immediate circle. Yeah.

They have been representing her the way she really should be representing and who she was as a person. You know, I've known Chenet since 2011. Like, that was to me, it's like a reflection of each other as far as trying to come up in this business. Like, I watched that girl grind from absolutely nothing to make an impact where somebody like J. Cole was stopping what they're doing, rightfully so, to go pay their respects. So I mean, I could talk for hours of how much I love Chenay. And, you know, I was talking with Demaris. We didn't end up going Friday just because it was too much. And I was talking with Corey, Chris Cassanova.

Like, it was just too much for a lot of us to even go there. So I love everybody that went to the event on Friday and was much stronger than us to even be there for her. And yeah, this one was. This one was pretty rough, man. It's tough. It's tough. It feels very unful. It feels very unlawful.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I was even just looking at photos of us in 2011. Like we look like actual like children. Yeah. It's insane. Well, we always talk about the viral picture of Rory with the, with the belly bottles that was at one of the chain's event.

That was at the in-house. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's sad, man. Yeah. I mean, prayers.

Miss Milan, Chloe, just. Everyone that is extremely close to her, her family, I can't say enough amazing things about them. Like, she was, she was, she was one of my favorite people, period. So, yes, this one sucked. It was a very rough, rough weekend, to be honest. Always tough to lose such a young, vibrant people. Like, that's always, like, one of the things that I always look at. Like, when you lose people when they're young and seem like they got so much.

ahead of them, so much more to do. That's always tough because you're always thinking forever, like, what if, you know, like, what else would she have done and how much more, you know, good times and good moments what we have had? Like, it's always tough. But she lived full of life. She was very, you know, outspoken and loved her people, loved her circle. And it's time to carry that on with each other. So rest of peace to Chenay Curry. And again, continue prayers and condolences to her family and her friends. Yeah. All right, well, on that note, thank y'all.

Pam and Gina. Thank you all for coming today. We appreciate y'all. Thank you for my gift. Thanks, guys. You said that in unison. Y'all practice that? You didn't feel the way, like, they made me a T-shirt as well,

but they used the Spotify basketball photo. Like, I can't even wear it. Classic. Like, DeMaris's shirt is fire. Like, she can wear that out. Lori, I get, like, compliments when they still wear your shirt. They were like, oh my God. that Irish guy when I go to a pub and I said some random white podcast.

They thought you were like important. They thought you were important. They thought you was important. He gave you guys a sweater and a shirt. She doesn't got this shirt. That is true. Listen, I appreciate y'all. Thank you so much.

I love my shirt. Thank you so much. I know exactly where mine is right now. Did you not give yours maybe to a young woman that was? No. That was leaving your house like, yo, you could wear this one. No. Because you didn't want a brand of that way.

No, when they come to my house, they know they stand so they bring their own shit. A little weakender? Yeah, no. A little whole bag? Bring your shit. You ever had a bitch rip some of her weave out and stuff it under your pillow? Nah.

None of my bitches do voodoo. Can't say I've ever had that happen. Yeah, none of my bitches do voodoo. Me neither. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga.

He's just ginger. Peace. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep. That's me. Clifford Taylor, the fourth.

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