New Rory & MAL - Episode 459 | Poly Pocket

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

Mal took a snow day today, so it’s just Rory & Demaris. NYC got hit with a huge blizzard, but the rest of the gang trudged through and got to it, for the culture. After a catch up on their respective weekends, they discuss Symba’s viral clip about the gang hitting on his girlfriend, TI’s song King going viral for his beef with 50 cent, the On The Radar cypher, & more! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome back to the snowy streets of New York City. Even if you're not there, that's where we are. And I don't know how we made it here today. Our good friend, Mall was stuck in the South. He went down south for his nephew's 10th birthday and naturally got caught there. Of course.

Unavoidable. 8 a.m. flight. No, we don't talk shit about Mall behind his, back when he's not here. And I know Mall's not going to watch this episode, so I can say whatever I want. Exactly. Exactly. Mall told us he had an 8 am flight and then all of a sudden, hey, Maul like, yo, made it back. We got a game plan for tomorrow. Nah, man, I'm still in the south. And then DeMaris went even further south and made it back somehow. He wasn't even that far south. He technically in the DMV. If we're being real, I didn't want to say his location, but yes, the DMV is

big enough. Before we left. Yeah, you in Virginia. I was all the way down in Savannah, Georgia. at a 10 a.m. flight. I made it back on time. But that's why I love Mole because he's like, wait, it's bad out there? I'm like, they shut the city down. It's only emergency. I'll rent the car. I said, Maul, only emergency vehicles. He said he'd run a car? Yeah. To drive out. Listen, I, Maul did want to put in the effort to be here. I don't want to, I want to make fun of him, but I don't want to make it sound like Maul did not put in a valent effort to be here today. And if anyone is in the tri-state,

you know how crazy it is right now. This is one of the craziest blizzards we've had in quite some time. But him saying after not making the 8 a.m. flight, because the snow didn't start to one. He would have been totally fine. Perfectly fine. It's a 45-minute flight. He could have taken a noon flight and would have been fine. But to say, nah, I'll just go rent a car. I was like, with a plow in front of it. He was like, nah, people saying it's not even that crazy. I said, I know because it just started. It's a two-day storm. Bro. We'll see more Thursday. I don't know if you're going to make it for our Wednesday episode.

No, dead ass. I don't. With the amount of flights ever changed, my mom was supposed to fly of Florida. Her shit keeps getting canceled. She was supposed to leave Monday, got changed to Tuesday. Now it's Wednesday. It'll probably be Thursday. Like everyone's flights got messed up. Yeah. We may not see Malta on next Monday. Yeah. To be quite honest. I was worried. I really was worried. But Saturday I was like, I was looking at flights. I'm like, I'm just going to come in late. Everybody had the same idea. Everybody took all the flights out. Well, also in mall's defense, too, until you called me and said, hey, I'm trying to change my flight. I wasn't even aware of the severity of the storm until that point. Like this one did kind of creep up. Like the last one, they told us like a

month in advance. We were waiting for that shit. Yeah. This, I didn't know this was going to be the way it was. Yeah, no, I had to call you because Delta hit me was like, oh, you want to change your flight? Like, we're not going to charge you. I'm like, what? They like snow. I'm like snow. I go look at the weather. I said, when the fuck was y'all going to tell us this was coming? It definitely gives like mean girls, you know, when she was like, I'm 99% short and it's already raining. Yeah, like, that's what the fuck is going on. Yeah. I will say to the the city workers of Jersey City, I will testify in court

if you guys ever get caught up that you guys are honest workers because I did try to bribe a plow guy this morning. I was like, can you just get my driveway real quick? Yeah, $50. I can't do that because then the whole block, I'm going to have to do that.

And I have to, he had so much integrity. I was like, what about 75? I would have got 75 from the whole block. Like, he ain't not thinking. But they have a sky. And it's, you know, it's a city. So there's so many blocks. If he starts backing up and like pushing everyone's, no, it's, yeah.

Because I saw someone else trying to bribe them. So I ran outside and tried to bribe them. But it's an honest worker right there. It's an honest civil servant of New Jersey. I took the money. But you were in Atlanta. What did you do when you were out there? I had some family friends and some family that I needed to see.

Like just people, you know, sometimes it's not my job to tell their business on here, but people go through things. So sometimes you got to go do what you got to do. Mm-hmm. Go visit some people. Fair enough. You didn't do anything fun. How far is Savannah from Atlanta? What's funny is I have an uncle and cousin in Savannah and I've never been there before.

But they moved from Chicago to Savannah. I don't know why. I mean, what is there? How far is it? It's not that far. But I went bowling. And I was like popping mad shit, right? So I'm like telling everybody.

I'm like, yo, like, I'm bad at bowling. I'm like, the only people who are good at bowling are people who go on dates. Like you're only, you're the professional bowler or you go on date. a lot. So you both, while I go in there and bowl a perfect score? Yeah. Niggas look to me like, how many bodies is bowling a perfect score? That's a lot about, like, I would, I would question a bit too, like, hmm. I was like, nah, y'all, y'all, chill. Like, it's beginners luck.

And I came in here and said that I thought professional bowlers were the worst athletes ever because they don't get a perfect score. And you guys tried to tell me how hardiness to get a perfect score. And you just roll it out there and I got all strikes, except for for two, I had two spares. That was it. Two spares. I got almost all strikes and two spares. I wish I would have taken a picture of the screen, bro. I should call my sister, huh? No. And I tore up, toe up though. I was drunk off Taramana. Anybody that gets eight strikes and two spares is taking a photo. Nah. I'm taking a video. Bro. I will call right now. I promise you. You didn't have a perfect score. There's no way.

Hey, y'all don't know why y'all don't believe me. I'm dead ass. I would have put that in the group chat, like, right of like, guys, I bold a perfect school. I'm going to FaceTime my sister and I'm going to see if she answered, bro. Yeah, but that's your sister. She'll live for you. No, she would. You guys have to pre-warn her.

I would have to pre-warn her. She wouldn't just lie off the cuff. Let me see. No, but I feel like that's the sister telepathy that you already know. Well, she's not my blood sister. She's been my best friend since I was five. Okay. Two years old.

Like black people's sister. Like that's everything. It's black history. She works for Delta, so she's probably busy right now, but she might call me back. Yeah, okay. Yeah. No, we're going triple check on that. What's the name in the bowling alley?

I think we should verify with them if that happened because I feel like your photo would be up there. Hold on. Is it at Dusco Lanes? Dane's new bowling alley. I feel like it's easy to bowl perfect score at Dusco Lanes. I'm calling my other cousin. Hold on.

I'm going to watch. Watch. All right. It's fine. We believe you. What did you do this weekend? No, you don't, but it's fine. Friday was, was,

was just, you know, daddy-daughter time. Saturday, I hit Kaz, our good friend, Cass, friend of the show, co-host on Hot 97 and with Carmelo Anthony. It was his birthday. So I said, happy birthday, Cass has two kids and he's married. Like, he don't do shit. So I was really just texting him to say happy birthday and enjoy the day. And, you know, you always throw in there like, oh, how do you plan on celebrating? He's like, I was just doing dinner with a family. I don't think I'm doing anything. at around like nine o'clock he's like I think I want to go out I'm gonna go in the next game now and go out after I was like well let me drink a Red Bull because the Knicks game's not gonna end till I don't know midnight it was it was a 830 game

that went down to the wire so we end up going to the same dive bar where I did karaoke for a Rosie's birthday party super random it's a cool spot but super it's on a second floor like you have to go up an apartment walk up to then get to the bar like nobody would just stumble upon this bar whatsoever so I'm in there Caz is there, my man, Eddie is there. Rosie, very small, intimate group because it was so last minute, sitting there having like serious family conversations and everything. And then someone walks past me really fast that look just like reason to me or a friend of reason.

It's kind of dark. So I'm like, no, never mind. Isn't he supposed to be coming into town too? He texted me yesterday. Well, Friday rather. And said, yo, I'm coming to town. So I thought maybe he tried to get ahead of like the storm or whatever and flew in. So this reason Doppler ganger walks past again and like we make eye contact and I'm like,

no, that's the reason. Like what the. And Kaz's like, are you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm fine. But like, I don't know. Like either reason's trolling me or like being like absolutely disrespectful. You being a weirdo. Yeah.

Like this is someone I consider a friend. Like he stayed with me when he comes to the city sometimes. Like that's how how close it is. I've met his family. Apparently not his entire family. It was the twin. Oh, you dumb is. So I'm thinking I'm bugging.

We've had a few birthday shots with Kaz. And then I'm like, you know what? Let me text. Because it was getting weird. Because it wasn't a big bar. And like he's lingering and it's like weird eye contact. I'm like, I talk to reason daily. Like, did we say something that I don't know about?

Like it just was an odd feeling. So as I go to text him to say, yo, did you walk past me? Rosie interrupts me and Kaz and goes, yo, why is reason being fucking weird? Because him and Rosie are close too. Exactly. And mind you, Kaz knows who reason is, but it's never, you know, does never met him, whatever. He's like, bro, Roy was just saying the same shit.

I don't know him enough to go say what's up. And Rosie's like, nah, he's mad weird. I can't fuck a reason anymore. I was like, maybe we just think all black people look alike. I don't know if that's really him, even though it looks identical to him. So I text reasoned that. He said, nah, bro, I'm in L.A. But, oh, shit, my brother's in New York.

And I completely forgot that reason has an identity. identical twin, but like, an identical, identical twin. Not like kind of, like, yeah, we're born the same time. We're gonna look like. They look exactly like. Same mannerisms, talk the exact same way. So we walk over and I sent you a video of how uncanny it is. They're wearing the same thing.

Twins that dress the exact same way into adulthood should be studied. He was probably looking at y'all. You lucky you ain't get your ass with. Well, no, Rosie's lucky. She didn't get her ass with. And I mean that respectfully, Rosie. He's with his wife. Because he was with his lovely, lovely wife who ended up being an amazing person.

But Rosie the whole time is staring like, yo, what the fuck? If I'm somebody's wife, I'm like, yo, why is this chick just, no, you being weird, Rosie? Yeah. And I don't remember. When the last time this nigga was in New York for real? Like shit, shit, moving walkie, yeah. And I had completely forgot. I'd never met his twin before.

I just knew he had one. And we used to joke, like, if you don't feel like going to a show, just. send your twin type thing. It just never dawned on me in that moment. I really thought reason was being weird. I was like, I can't trust these LA dudes. They just odd. Haven't, oh, you can't call LA niggas weird. They'll fucking, they will kill you.

They will actually kill you. I love Los Angeles. Reason is a friend from Carson, California. Yo, having a twin as an adult is like, that's gay. It's kind of weird. Like, when you guys are kids, it's cute, but you can't be an adult and look the same. Like, change

change your appearance. Why a grown-ass man? like you. Then y'all dress alike and shit. On different coast. It's not even like mom dressed y'all today. I just like, hell. Why y'all both got the same gray hoodie on? They begin headaches at the same time. So, uh, reasons

sister-in-law, I won't say her name because I don't know if she wants to even be mentioned. She was telling me that they have like weird twin telepathy like, he'll know when reason is upset and shit and like, he'll feel it in his chest and then call him and like, no already. She's like, I don't like it. She almost talked like it was an ick to her. Like, it's kind of gross that they're twins.

I don't even, maybe knowing shit about each other. I don't like it. Yo, waking up with the flu and you just find out reason trying to get off TDE. Yo, Reason's brother must have been going through it. The week the reason was trying to get off TDE. I'm sure his chest, he was like, who's the guy from Green Mile? When he was just suck in everyone's diseases and have to throw them up. Yo, my God.

When Tom Hanks couldn't piss, he was like in the jail cell. like shaking. That's how I pictured twin telepathy. Sick. And it's different with Maul and a sister because they're different genders. Like, looking like another man to me. It's a little suss. That's what. Mawl and his twin do look just alike though just in different genders. Yeah. But she's sweet. They don't act that that much other. She's a sweet person. No. But reasons brought, they, they act different, but have the same mannerisms. And again, this is East Coast. They both have the same L.A. accent. But I, you know, everyone with that.

that LA accent sounds the same to me. Could you imagine having a twin? Your twin will probably be cooler than you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think I would be the erratic twin and that would be like the calm one. But I feel like that happens with people on microphone.

Like, it's the real. I love Jeff and Eric, but if you meet Eric's brother, like twin, I think they're twins. Really? He's like, he's the way cooler, which I tell them. This is anything that,

I'm saying not in front of them. I always say their brother off Mike is the way cooler brother. Of course. And I mean, your sisters are cooler than you. Cool people, not enough. Cool people don't. Pee's his brother's cool in him. Pete's your brother?

A little or older. Of course. Yeah, Pete's brother's way cool. It's anyone in entertainment that we're awful. I was going to say, people are in entertainment, we're not cool. Like, you can't be cool and do this job. Like, no way I got up today. We do this to have validation.

Because we know we're not cool. Like, I put out a full face and makeup to come in here and, like, talk to you on camera. Like, you can't be cool and do shit like that. No. Or shovel out seven feet of snow on that driveway. Yeah, it was the most uncool shit. They come talk for a living. Shit is wild.

Nah, damn, we kind of losers. No, 100%. We literally gossip for a living. Let me get the white shit out of the way now. First, you know, 15 minutes in. Congratulations to the USA hockey team. We are the champions. Once again, I'm sure.

you you woke up early to watch the game. Gold medal round, overtime, beat the Canucks. You're not happy? Wait, is Canucks? I don't care about being racist towards Canada. Are you not like a hockey fan? No, are you? No. I mean, I wouldn't say a fan.

You dabble? If the Rangers or Devils are in the playoffs, I'll definitely watch. Going to a hockey game, I would actually, like, recommend. I think you would have a lot of fun in hockey game. Because it's like violent, right? Violent and like beers. Yes.

And it's fast. Like, it's one of the most exciting sports to watch in person. Like, there's no downtime. It's literally chaos the entire fucking time. I will go. No, they're a lot of fun. But it was good to see USA hockey get the gold. And come on, no American pride.

It's black history. Mom, I'm sitting up here with two white people. I think, uh, I think USA had a black guy on their staff. Jesus fucking. I remember seeing some. Had a black guy on their staff. Somebody on the bench was black. Yo, have their black guy on the staff as crazy as fuck.

Not on the team, on the staff. Well, he was an older gentleman. Maybe he played before. I'm not like that. You think he's like coaching. Yeah, I'm saying on staff. Like one of the people that was on the bench or part of the celebration. Oh, okay.

I did hear that the women had the first black women hockey player, black women hockey player to win a gold medal. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. No, see, look at us clean. That's our sport now. I also love that the director of the FBI used our hard-earned tax dollars to make sure he was in the locker room to celebrate.

Have you ever seen something like that? No. No. Cash Patel is wearing a gold medal in the locker room of the USA hockey team. If you got the fucking connections, do it. Fuck it. I mean, you could be solving crime and shit like that. It's not solving missing people.

But I don't know if you pay attention to the news much. Cash Patel couldn't solve a parking. ticket outside. Oh, I didn't know he was bad at this job. He's one of the fucking worst. Absolute worst. He was suggested that Epstein only trafficked little girls to himself. Nobody else. There's no evidence.

He said that on the microphone. Oh. With a straight face, under oath. That's who's celebrating with the team. They put a gold medal on him. America's in the shitter. We're in the shitter. And apparently they turn the global warming off that we got snow. I don't know. Put the weather machine

back on. Like, I'm glad what the fuck is this, bro? Give the remote back to Biden? Yeah, like, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? You said you had something to do later. I'm very interested in what that is. Oh, I'm streaming with Simba, but by the time they hear this, it'll be over, so it's not like I can plug it. But I'm going to stream with Simba. Because I have some questions for Simba. He was on all the smoke over the weekend. Saw that. And he told a story where Game, which has been a collaborative of his, like we've seen them on stage together at the documentary 15, 20 year anniversary. Simba did a freestyle. Like,

we know these guys to be close West Coast friends. And he said once that he had, Simba had done a post of a girlfriend reveal, if you will. And then after that, game slid into her DMs, which game has been accused of often with people, that he will just DM a girl because he knows that they're dating somebody. It's not because he finds that woman attractive and wants to get to know her. It's very much a power play type of move that he's trying to do. But where Simba got a bunch of flack was like, nah, gang, that's still my dog.

That's the big bro, that's big homie. And that's where everyone was like, all right, come on, what you doing? He went on to clear it up. But I'm curious what did you think about his clear-up? He said, yo, I was in a whole phase when Game and I were working the most. And I would bring in a different girl every studio session and say, yo, this is my girlfriend. This is wifey. This is my queen.

And Game just started to see that pattern. Like, no, they're not. Like, you just be bringing in random chicks and saying, it's your girl. So he thought the last one that Simba had brought in, he said, this is my girl. And Game thought, no, the fucking not. Like, she's free. And where. where I understand what Simba is saying on the nastier homie side,

I've always found that weird to begin with. Because even if that's not my girl, why are you trying to fuck a girl that I'm fucking? Why am I going and scouting holes for you, testing them out just for you to slide in after I've done all the work, like, oh, okay, I know she valid. Simba fucking her. And I'm going to ask Simba tonight,

but I do have a theory which I don't want to support game with this because I think it's nasty fucking work to do that even with associates, not even friends, just somebody you working with closely that's an associate. I think it's probably worked a lot. For sure. I don't think this is game's first rodeo with the scouting that Simba was doing and what he was bringing into the studio. I mean, it's the game.

He's one of the most famous rappers of our generation. and outside of his antics, the game is also traditionally fine as fuck. He fingered India Love in a public park. Like, I'm not saying this is above games pedigree. Game fine. I'm just saying that I don't think this is the first time he's DM'd a girl that Simba brought to the studio

and ended up fucking her. No, definitely not. That girl forgot some of the name. Like, I think that was a muscle memory for game. Yes, however, here is where that was a terrible cleanup. Number one, if that was really your big homie, your big bro, he wouldn't be trying to fuck after you. That is what it is.

Number two, you said that game slid her DMs after you posted her. But we don't know if games saw that post. That was just the last girl that Simba had brought to the studio and said to game, yo, this is my girl. Again, I think none of this is okay. Because if my friend brings a girl to studio, I don't even think I'm going to follow her unless we become like cool and she's around a lot, let alone DM her to try to fuck her. He saw the post because he said a couple days after the post,

game slitting her D-N. We don't know games algorithm, man. Man, all right, bro. That's who we doing? All right, cool. Do you game like the posts? I don't know if he liked it or not, but he knew. He knew.

All I will say is, from our outsider's perspective, looking in, you respect the game more than the game respects you. Oh, for sure. That's it. No, absolutely. That's all. And I don't know their relationship. So, somebody don't take this personally, right?

Friend of the show. But you respect the game more than the game respects you. No, I don't think that's disrespectful to say. I think that's quite obvious. Because I don't know, I don't, Simba even admitting to his hoe phase and I've had conversations with him after the girlfriend reveal thing. I appreciate how open and honest Simba is about the things he was doing when he was with his girl, when now being faithful. Like he's kind of an open book with some of his bad behavior as far as being promiscuous. I think Simba's reformed.

I don't know if game has gotten to the reformed. I don't know if game was reformed. It's too far gone. Yeah. I mean, I'm your big homie. And before I slide on, anybody you mess with, I always ask you. And here's my thing. You beat me.

I was trying to pinhole you into the corner. How could you say this about game when you've done it to me? I ask you. And if I don't ask, I let you know. And then you have the opportunity to tell me no. No, big homie. Please don't fuck her. I like her.

Can you define big homie? Can you define big homie? Before any debate, let's establish what words mean, okay? What does big homie mean so I can know how you are my big homie? I'm not sure, little, honey. You think you think to the degree of what Game did for the West Coast in 2003, when the West Coast was starving, it was over for Death Row. Game came in and put the West on his fucking back,

brought back the West Coast that has made some of the best music since 2005, Simba being from Northern California, you would not see that that what game has done, that that would be his big homie. You think game putting an entire state on his back is the equivalent of what you are to me. I'm trying to, I'm trying to establish what big homie mean. We're going to have a real conversation because they're all ain't here to laugh because at one point I put your whole life on my back. Don't do that. don't do that okay i'm definitely big homie i'm definitely big homie when shit go wrong who you call rory and vice versa when shit go wrong who you call we're homies i don't do that yo just saying but anyway i

wouldn't game you out i would never do that you have i ask you as a matter of fact both you and maul have done it no mall is different both you and maud have done the same thing Nobody could ever say I give everyone full right to do the exposed I have never ever done that behavior in my entire life

I cannot say the same about everyone that's been in this room aside from Peach because I don't know Pete should do that behavior either you too no

y'all are fucking menaces no mall is different because you'll you'll tell Maul you like somebody and Ma'am like that girl man ain't your ex man you don't fuck with that girl that's what Maul does

That's what games doing here. And games doing it rightfully so. Even some of saying that. Money bags and everything. At least the game did it in private. No, DM in a girl that, come on, that's way different than throwing money bags. I'll give them all.

No, inviting a girl to a dinner. That might be worse than games. He inviting people women to my birthday dinner. What are we doing? That both y'all trying to, never mind. All right. Listen. What?

Not it's just me and you. here the fans keep saying I'll be being mean to you. You think I'm mean to you? Pete, did you see that deflection? Fuck. And, all right, and first of all right, if I'm your little homie, you should be guiding me and mentoring me and understanding some of my emotions. Because anytime a man is asked the question of, yo, that's not your girl, right?

Like, it's cool if I try. Every male ego will be like, their voice will get a little higher. Look, yeah, bro. Come on, bro. Yeah. you know me which I've admitted on this podcast I'm not one of those people I love my host so you're mad that I'm giving you the opportunity to stand up for yourself I'm giving you practice and standing up for yourself and speaking but but more of it leans on the yeah go ahead and try you could like I'm I'm fine with you doing it because I know what the result is going to aren't you ill no I just don't think you as ill to do that I'm just you want keep it up Because I'll fly out right now. It's hot over there where she at.

Though. All right. Which one though? Because you've done this more than once. And no, that did happen when we were in Vegas. And we were driving with somebody who will remain nameless. And it's not even hints because this person's not from Vegas and live in Vegas. They just happen to be there.

I had given them. They asked me that question. And I don't like, I don't like being asked that question. I think it's weird. Like, I wasn't that type of person. And I find it odd. And I consider this person a friend too, but listen, man, men will be game. Like, that's just how men operate.

So I'm not, it's not somebody I was dealing with, not somebody I was talking to, not somebody was planning on talking to. So you can have a blast. My long history with her is, if you cool with it, go for it. I did feel a little way in that car. I can't lie. Yeah, that was weird. When he actually did it, just because I say, do it, don't do it.

Yeah. Which is unfair, but like, nah. Yeah. Because even in Simba's thing, if you're bringing other women and saying this, my queens, whatever, yeah, we know that's not true. And you're admitting it wasn't true. But that don't give the right for everybody in the room to go start DMing them. Like, I don't know. Maybe, maybe I'm different. No. Maybe I actually, like, care about the people I talk to. I feel like everybody knows which one of my holds are free range. I don't. I don't. I got an ex right now. I don't even want to have somebody I used to date when I was younger, older teenager. And he keeps sliding in my home girl DMs. And he thinks she not answering. He keeps trying. She keeps ignoring him. He thinks she's not answering because he's attached to me. And I'm like, even if I never be.

And we were never together, she still wouldn't fuck you. She's not answered. Because I told her, yo, if you would like to, you could. And he just insists I'm bothering that woman. But that's so interesting. I didn't know that that happened because I'm a square. I didn't know that happened in the female group chat. Oh, for sure.

They know. We know which ones are untouched. Well, I've never been that ill that the whole squad was trying to be. So, like, I didn't know that there was, their women had their like, nah, he's, you could do whatever with him. Nah, it's some. He's a hoe. You could have him. I didn't know that they did that with their.

Oh, it don't be a hole and spend money. Ooh. Okay. I was sending a contact to the group chat. I can see the group chat where Instagram women that are not actually friends start to hang out. And their goal is to find men with money that spend money. I can see them giving a, a hoax. report like yeah he spends money go ahead i could see that but you have like actual real friends yeah but

yeah actual real friends but women also not speaking for me but women also have men that they come into contact with that they'll sleep with but they would never wife so then it's like oh go ahead like he cool like go ahead it's men i had one of my home girls called me leaving homie house like oh somebody got to try this i can't be the only one i've never been that ill so i don't yeah I don't know about this world. Y'all have to try this shit out. This is amazing. I've had home girls call like that.

Okay, so what was the response in that group chat to that message? Some of my friends considered it and some didn't. Yeah. You got some fire. He handed out firing money. Ain't he cute? And you don't want to waif it? All right.

To call back, it must be so amazing to be cool. Because I could never imagine sleeping with a woman. and then the next day, I know this is one of her friends, DMs me. I would think this is a setup to see, I think y'all are trying to play me to see if I'm going to take the bait. That's how I would view it. I wouldn't think, oh, I did such an amazing performance. All her friends want to fuck now.

Women? That happens. That happens with women. And my friend group, we're kind of getting to the point where we're older and we're all like trying to date with intention and find husbands and shit like that. Like that. Yeah, you know, like adult shit. But like, yeah, no, no, no, no.

Women like fine men, too. Like, so it's not just, we don't, not everybody is trying to get married. So, yeah, I've had some funny conversations where it's like, no, you got it. Yeah. But I mean, if I was Simba, I wouldn't take it too personal

because Game literally does that with everybody. Yeah. He's done it with me. He's done it with everybody on the old part. Game has done that to everybody. Well, Simba obviously isn't taking it personal. I just wouldn't call him my big homie. He tried to hollad Chobay at Mama.

Do we think she had accepted the request? No, she didn't and don't. Of course, I know her. No, I don't know. I don't think she did. You may accept a request message. I'm just curious like how as a long-term girlfriend in that situation, like how you feel. Because shit, even in 15, 20 years ago whenever we tried to put these timelines, I've had friends that I'm no longer friends with that have like quietly tried to do that with women.

And they felt, and even though they weren't my girlfriend or anything like that, they automatically. and rightfully so think, well, how do you speak about me? Did you think that less of me that you would be okay with your friend doing that? I had no fucking idea. Because I feel like you sent them. I was bad about that before. And I don't think that's a bad, that's not bad reasoning to me

that you would think that, like no way your friend would do that without you being okay with it. And the cases, yeah, that happened. When you got the creepy friend, they will do that by your back. I've broken up a friendship like that before. were telling some like spazzing like, your friend is, da-da-da-da-da. He like, he did what? And I'm, oh.

Oh, Jay called me. Yeah. And with that, I mean, that nasty mentality that a lot of male friend groups have in our early 20s, like, if that's not your girl, she's for everybody. Like, no, man, not to sound like an absolute marshmallow pussy, but she's also a person. And you didn't know. No, I didn't just, she's not just here for everyone to fuck her. You didn't know.

You didn't know about her until I brought her around. You didn't know, you had no idea that girl existed until I bought her around. Like you want a fucker because I'm fucking are you're weird. Go scout your own hoes. The explore page is full of them. And granted, in my early 20s, I have had friends bring a girl that was there admitting and openly saying everybody could fuck. That's a different thing. I don't think I've ever brought around a girl.

I'm not saying I haven't brought a hoe around, but not one that was there for the squad. Yeah. It's weird. You just think that she wants all you guys to fuck? She barely Word. How long it took me? Mall, finally, you have the most powerful iPhone

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He grown now. If you don't know what's going on, T.I. Sun. King, if I'm not mistaken, it's his name, is currently entered into the beef between his dad and 50 cent because 50 cent brought up his mom, took a picture, you know, posted a picture of his mom talking shit. And King was like, yo, go dig up your mother or your grandmother, your mama dead, bitch, dig her up. And I bet my mother look better than her dead body. And this is why I've always subscribed to the rule of, of leaving out wives, girlfriends, women, children, everything,

especially back and forth that's not that real. TTI and 50 is not anything that's really serious. It's half trolling, half them just not liking each other, and half 50 just being fucking 50, and I'm aware that's 150%.

But this is why, because King's not wrong. And I understand, Tani is a public figure, so she is, I guess, in the rules of being talked about even without the proxy of being married to TI. But now, like, now you're offending a bunch of people that have nothing to do with this entire thing.

Because if I'm kidding, I'd probably feel away if somebody posted my mother and said those things. Like, I don't think he's wrong. I think his response is a little misguided because, you know, we've seen King try to say he's from the trenches and all this weird shit. Just you can feel upset and feel disrespected and talk about it, but, I mean, going that far.

And, no, and granted, I'm not saying that there's rules to reaction. I'm not. And I don't think it's tacky what he did because someone spoke about his mother. I'm not saying that. It's just like, I would never say that because I'm not prepared to go there with 50 cent. That's how I look at these. No rules.

All right. Are you prepared to go there when you say certain things? 50, unfortunately, I know even with the amount of money that he has and the power that he has, I know 50 will box somebody tomorrow. I know 50 is willing to go there with anybody. He will back up his words no matter what. King, you're not going to back your words up. Your rant is not matching where things could go.

And in no way am I saying 50 cent and King are going to run into each other and 50's going to smack King. But there has been a past where people in Gina have smack people's kids. And I thought it was wrong then. But there is evidence of this happening. and that was somebody that was under 18 years old that they smacked. You think they wouldn't smack King? Yeah.

But that's where I think it's fucked up because now it's a kid that's just trying to, you know, defend his mom off of fucking baseless beef between Tia and 50. My thing with, the only thing my thing with King is, and this is a lesson I learned very young, is when you are reacting to someone, you have to remember the people who are going to protect you. So there was a lot of things that I didn't say or do because I knew if it went just a step farther,

I was going to have to get my father involved and that that was going to go left. King needs to be aware of who his father is and how things that are innocent could escalate very quickly with people who don't play that. Because this is the same way 50 don't play, T.I. don't play. T.I. and 50 are two of the most indescent. intelligent, entertaining, rappers, whatever you want to call them, that are in the industry today. That does not mean they are above all the dumb shit that they've done before. Exactly.

Exactly. I think you need to consider that when you're reacting. Now, I don't think that King is wrong in his emotions. Emotions will, emotions can ruin lives. But I don't think that he's wrong. And for having his emotions, he's 100% fucking right. And he's not their only kid. He's not her only child outside of how she may feel.

being brought because women are always fucking the one suffering from people's fucking rap battles. You always got to bring women in and kids in and who may or may not belong to us and what all types of shit, women are always catching strays and fucking rap models. Maybe it's part of the deal now. It kind of is. It kind of is. I think it's fucked up because I subscribe to not doing it. Even if it's a public figure or whatever, like I don't want to talk about somebody's girl if I have an issue with somebody.

But niggins aren't rapping though. This isn't a distract. No, no. No, I'm saying it's like battle content. at this point. Fucking streamers say crazier shit than rappers say

about other people's families and this and that. There is no line on the internet at all. But I'm saying now, it sucks and it's fucked up and it's not right.

But if you are dating somebody that does do public back and forth a lot, you should be prepared for that at this point. I don't think you can run and be like, I thought we said no women and children.

Those days have been done. I still subscribe to that. But the rest of the world does not subscribe to that. No. So if you are dating somebody that is famous for going back and forth with people, whether it be streaming, content, IG videos, rapping. Famous period, honestly.

You should be prepared for that. I know you say I didn't sign up for this. In this day and age, you should have the self-awareness that you did. Yeah. So, and I mean, Tiny's already, which was an entertainer before fucking T.I. was. But I still feel that's his mom and not an entertainer. And I hope people don't think that I think 50 didn't watch that video and just laugh. I don't think 50 somewhere steaming that how could you say something about my dead mother?

I don't, I think 50 like really probably watched that a few times and couldn't stop laughing. And it's not going to go anywhere. But this is the result of the internet shit. Do you think that 50 is lame for what he did? Yeah. I do. I'm objective. As much as you guys know, I'm not objective with 50, I am objective.

the times like the there are plenty of moments where I think 50 is gone a little too far with some of the trollman shit but I'm also on the side even if I don't agree with it I do know 50 is capable so when people that are capable do this

okay just deal with the consequences of the things that you say that may be over the line I can I can think is lame but I know he's somebody that's not going to run from anything. I think it's super lame when people do shit like that that we know are not here to deal with the consequences of the things that they say. And that's why they're saying them. I know the people that 50 is going toe to toe with.

And it's a far crazier history than any rapper, period. So while, yes, I don't think, even though, again, Tanya is an entertainer and is subject to whatever somebody says, she's on Getty images. but to me it's lamer when people won't, won't deal with what they say, rather than 50 that I know will. He has been doing that from how to rob to now, 50 will always deal with the consequences.

Whether someone's being harmed, he's being harmed, somebody's being stabbed. Like, again, I don't want violence to happen. I just know 50 is capable. And when you're ready to go there with anybody, that's your sword to fall on. I can't say anything. I can say more about the people,

that say insane things and would never do that. We'll just run to the fucking cops. They'd be like, no, no, no, it's just the internet. That's where I think people are lame. Yeah. We know Tia'll go there. We know Fidio will go there. If they want to say whatever the fuck they want back and forth to each other, cool.

King, I don't think King will go there. I think, you know, it was crazy. I think King will go there. One of those stupid people. Yes, that's the thing. I always try to tell people, like, the only thing's scarier than people, people who go there are people who will go there just to prove that they go there, like, just to prove themselves. Like, you'll sacrifice your safety, your father's safety, everything,

just to prove something to yourself and everyone else. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, that's kind of the difference of how I view people like, like Star. It's Star say things that I completely disagree with. And I feel like we're over the line, even though I think he, I view him as one of my favorite radio personalities of all time. And it's not even close. He's definitely said some stuff that me personally on my moral compass was like, that's too far. But Star was always accessible. Like Star was at that studio every day. It wasn't some, you couldn't not find Star. Charlemagne. Do I think someone's going to do something absolutely insane and IHard building, even though someone did try outside of it. I'm not right about that. But Charlemagne has said

99.9% of the shit to the person's face in front of them. And again, I know it's a enclosed place where fights are probably not going to happen and there's a bit more safety. But I have way more respect for people like Star and Charlemagne that say these things to these people and are accessible. Charlemagne now is, you know,

how big he's gotten, he's not as accessible. He should be home with his kids and shit. But for a while, Charlemagne was pretty accessible. They found him outside the fucking studio. I have respect for that. Even if I disagree and think you're going over the line,

like, you're saying it to the person. I look at that way different than the people that are just saying shit on camera in a basement. Like, that's why I watch my words on this podcast. I'm accessible. I be outside all the time. I know a certain line. That doesn't make me pussy.

I just respect a line of manhood. I'm not going to say something without knowing, because I don't want to fight anyone. And if I did, then I will cross a line. But I don't. I don't want to fight anyone at fucking almost 36. I'm accessible. That's why I don't crash out on these cameras the way y'all do. I will be outside all the time in every room at every of, like, I'll be there.

Comfy. And there's been times that you know that off mic stuff that has happened that I will confront someone immediately and confront them for the things that they say. I live in that type of world. So that's why I choose my words the way that I do. It's not because I'm scared. It's just because I live in the real fucking world. You don't know, like, always want to deal with the consequences.

Just because you're not afraid to deal with the consequences of your own action, sometimes you just don't fucking feel like that. I don't have. I also don't have enough issue with anybody right now where I would just want to cross that line for entertainment purposes to then cause a conflict that doesn't need to be there. Yeah. I mean, that's really where it's at with me, which I guess is a perfect segue to fucking Ray Vaughn on the radar. I did not see that. What happened?

Shout out to Rayvon, even though I've cost him out before. Shout out to Rayvon. So I have only good things to say about Ray Vaughn with the freestyle. We'll get to his verse. I loved his verse. I hated his jeans, but I loved his verse. I do want to start by saying, Gabe, thank you for continuing to create a platform for real rappers to rap. Like anyone that's complaining that you can't find real lyrics or that golden age hip-hop is dead, this and that.

We'll just go over to Gabe's platform. Gabe did his on-the-radar cipher. for kind of what Double XL should still be doing right now with what they did with their freshman class, but the up next crowd of actual lyricists that also all 10 of these gentlemen make good music too. It's what was needed. It's why Double XL has fallen off

because they didn't go with their bread and butter, and they also tried to live in the world of we need to adapt to terrible SoundCloud rappers just because they have a big following. Because when they would do their cipher, it was a rough watch. sometimes people shouldn't cipher, which we'll get to the other cipher after.

Sometimes people shouldn't rat, but we hear no. So you did not watch it? I did not. Okay. It's 22 minutes of absolute gold. Like, I haven't seen 10 people rap this well together in quite sometime. It's what has been missing from the BT Hip Hop Awards. Like, I think all platforms stopped.

realizing that there is still value in people that just rap really well and can show out and be entertaining for the 22 minutes of what you guys would call lyrical miracle shit. Like all 10 went nuts. And I'm not just saying that to just big up this entire thing. I have no bad notes whatsoever outside of Ray Vaughan's jeans. Who was your favorite? All right. What was unfair?

Marlon. Yeah. It's no, all right. So it's unfair because I do admit when I have a friendship and bias with people. I try to be as objective as I can all the time. I'm not just saying this because Marlon is somebody that I consider a friend. And I know you guys clown me about the family shit. He is actually family. He grew up with my daughter's mother. Like, her best friend was his sister. Like, I see his dad every day. Yes. That's, but that's, I consider him family. He's still smoked y'all, though.

No, if I had to say my favorites that stood out, because again, I have a similar bias with Rubin Vincent. Rubin is a friend as well. Suave is on my next album. I think he's incredible. Swave has incredible music with James Blake. He's just a super, super talented rapper. But with that said,

Larisi kind of was the star of me in the end. entire thing. I think people with a new arm's accent have a cheat code because their accent is like an instrument in itself. He was probably the least lyrical, but had the best first. The most swag. Like yeah. No, his performance was unreal. How he used his voice. Like, he was still lyrical, but he was my personal favorite in that regard. But if you're going just off bars, Marco Plus when nuts. Um, shit. Overcast did the beat and wrapped. Uh, Ben, Riley went nuts. All of them went crazy. Nassan, who is

proof is rest in peace. His son, he's been out for a little while. He makes good music. He dissed Revolt and Rob Markman out of nowhere for no reason. Damn, why Rob catching a fucking stray? Because it's hip-hop. It's a real cypher. So at the end of the year, Revolt, Rob Markman, a few other people did like a recap

show. And Rob Markman just said his favorite emcees of the year and who's next? just didn't mention Nissan. So. All right, but to call, to call Rob dumb to me was lazy. Because in his scheme, he was saying, Revolta, are you are dumb,

Rob Markman? Actually, I think you're dumb. Like, it was just kind of like, as good of a lyric as you are, that's what you landed on with Rob. Because everybody knows Rob is not dumb. And Rob supports young artists. Matter of fact,

Rob was the first person to ever put him on a platform at Genius. The first time we ever saw him, at least I can speak for me, was when Rob put you on the decoded genius shit. What I was like, oh shit, proof somebody. Royce had told me some stuff before, but like I wasn't fully on board. That made me a fan of the song, was what Rob did for him on genius. So to say that, cool, if you want to just throw shots, whatever, but like to really say that

I actually think you're dumb to somebody that is clearly not dumb and a supporter of. a bunch of young artists since he's been in this industry is kind of nuts to me. Was that a rap genius pun, like calling you dumb? Because it was, I don't know, my rap brain, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, was it a play on genius? I didn't, no. Okay. I mean, that's where I would have went with it.

So that's why I mean, maybe, I still think that's late. I thought his whole verse was great. I just thought that I'm not saying don't dis Robb. Yeah. Go at whoever the fuck you feel like, but just make it a little bit more creative. Because I thought when he was getting in the revolt scheme, I was like, oh, this is great. And when you land on the rob thing, it's like, all right, whatever. Okay, so we just took a break and I watched Rayvon's verse.

Yes, which rightfully so went viral over the weekend. Thoughts outside of his jeans. I don't mind his jeans, actually. He just dressed like, that's like how New Yorkers used to dress in like, oh, too. Well, we're going to get to that, by the way. I have that in my notes. That reminds me, like, when I went to, when I was in school, that's how boys dressed. I want Yadi to get back on IG Live and just pull back your comments.

Every last person in this video is dressed like they're from New York City. But like a long time ago. Who's my guy from Atlanta is dressed like Inspector Deck? Like I don't ever want to hear y'all say that New York is not the leaders in fashion. All of y'all, only one person in this video is from New York. And that's Marlon. Every last one of you are dressed like you're from New York City. Yeah.

I don't ever want to fucking hear it. it's cool. I'm gonna get worked up. That's like the style now though. Like the baggy clothes and shit and all of that is like that. I was so confused when Yaddy was like nobody's trying to dress like they from New York. You dressed like you from New York. Hey, man. And but which is fine with me because I've always said I mean this respectfully because I do eventually maybe want to move to Atlanta.

Atlanta's one of the worst dressed cities of all time. So I love to see that you guys are starting to dress like you're from New York. Maybe it's because half of New York migrated to Atlanta. and our sauce kind of got there. This entire, if you didn't hear anyone's voice accent or rhymes and just saw this cipher with the sound off,

you would think that they did this shit in a Staten Island basement. Like they all look like they're dressed from New York. But in 08. Well, no, there's definitely 90s. Like even down to the Camo shit with Chris Patrick here, Suave with that bandana

is definitely like inspect, that was an inspected deck special. Yeah, And it's more 90s into 2000s, I would say. Okay. But no, I don't think, and again, I don't make this a shot at right. I don't think anyone even in New York is wearing those jeans with that. I like the TD long sleeve.

It's just a lot going on there. If he matched it with like a cookie monster t-shirt and Excel, then I'd say it looks like it from New York. He did a good job. Rayvon did a good job. Rayvon smoked that shit. He came at the whites. I was listening for you.

stray. I didn't catch it. You ain't catch one? I don't think. I mean, I personally don't think I did. If he feels any of that applies to me, I also wouldn't be like... No, yeah. I wouldn't... I thought everything he said was absolutely correct. And he came out all the people who stand next to people like Aiden Ross. I thought it was... I mean, people are assuming that's specifically about Aidan Ross, but, I mean, even down to the no jumper part,

like I understood what he was saying, and I bet on no jumper. And I mean, Adam and I aren't close by any means or even speak like that. But I feel his perspective on that. If you've had somebody that you lost to gun violence, now I don't want to go on a platform that not glorifies it, but constantly talks about gun violence. Like, I get everything that Ray Vaughan said in that entire verse. But we've said that before.

Like, his LA Leakers freestyle is one of my favorite freestyles from the leakers. Ravon, this is his dojo. This is where Rayvon shines all the time. Agreed. And I love that TDE continues to try to put him in situations. Even after the Joey badass thing, like when they put out that video, this is where he shines. I do believe that he can make good songs. I think that's a bit of his Achilles heel right now.

But I don't think when you have this type of talent level that you won't have the ability to do that one day. But in this arena, yeah, it's. tough to see somebody like Ray Vaughan in this arena. He's, he's one of them. Why are you? Because when I went on my Ray Vaughn ramp, I said the next time y'all give niggas props, who weren't giving us props

and was being funny, I was going to smash all the Black Magics. I'm over here totaling up how much the Black Magic cost before I started tossing them around. We had to downgrade to Black Magics after Carl lost. But Black Magics is not a downgrade. These are very, very expensive. No, that's how expensive the cameras were.

Oh, them Game of Thrones cameras we had. This is 20 grand right here. Yeah, I'm gay with Thrones cameras we had. I'm just crazy. Might as well bought a red. But no, I mean, yeah, you do a good.

No, I can give prizes. Again, do I, I have my personal thoughts about Ray Vaughn and the things that he said, especially post your rant, and then the, oh, we have people watching you. I could have, we knew your location.

Like, I have my separate thoughts about Ray Vaughn as a person. But that's neither here nor there. if I ever actually talk about that type of shit, smash the cameras. But I can give props to somebody that wraps really well. I like that. And the content was perfect.

Everything he said was correct. Yeah. And I mean, what? I'm supposed to say that was whack. No, but that's why people respect you because you can put your personal dealings to the side and come out and give somebody props. Oh, I have no real personal issue.

If I saw him, it wouldn't be on site. I don't mean, I don't mean like, that. I don't mean like that. I just mean, even though somebody might do something you might not agree with, you can still come out and give them props. Even if they shit on you, you can still come out and give them props. Oh, I think that's what's respectable about Chu. I thought, again, post-R-B-T interview that we did with him and then his comments with head and Gina and then when he was in the crib with the smoke detector going crazy, which I can identify with, I thought that was corny as fuck. I thought all of that was corny as fuck. And I always feel that way. Like,

There'd be nothing that could change my mind on that being not one of the cornyer things I've seen because I know the truth and I know what you're saying is the complete opposite. But you're an amazing rapper. This was great. You smoked that perfect timing. What a way to shine in a freestyle with nine other elite young emcees as well. Like that's also tough to try to make your moments in a correct way. Like Rob Markman did reply. And he said, yeah, you're trying to make your moments.

in a cipher with a bunch of other lyricists. Like that's tough to shine. Mm-hmm. It's easy when you're in certain BT ciphers where everyone around you probably makes good music, but they can't really rap like that, and you could really rap, you shine. It's tough to do it with 10 people here that are like that.

So you have to find ways to do that. So I feel on that entire thing, trying to make a moment by saying Robb's name and revolt. But Ravon did that and it didn't feel like he was trying to make a moment. It felt like he was telling the truth of how he actually feels like that that's tough to do so i i thought Gabe thank you thank you for for continuing to highlight this type of shit um because there's not a lot of platforms out there doing that and on top of that i guarantee some of these artists have worked together already i'm sure all of them are

going to work together now because even though they're all competitive because again they're like that you could see all of them just hyping each other up in the back and super excited to hear other people rap. I'm sure we're going to get a bunch of records with all these guys at some point. So these types of moments are good in that reason as well. Are there any that you would like to work with that you, that, okay, you said Swavy is already on the. He's, he's on my project on this Jordan Ward record. I mean, Marlon, I produce, we have records out that I produce that are out now. And I, yeah, I got a vote of, of shit that Marlon and I have to do.

but Larisi is really out of everybody on there Larisi is the one I like the most. Okay. It's just something about, I followed him. He ain't follow me back. But I was going to DM him like game. Yo. Yeah, you should.

You should. No, go like three of his pictures. I don't know. I'm just kind of, that's nasty. No, if anyone has a plug on Larisi, I would absolutely love to work. Absolutely love to have him up here as well. Again, I think I'm just a sucker for like

the New Orleans accent to me. meet is a instrument in itself. Like, it's the coolest accent. It really is my favorite. Like, they can drag everything that, even the way like three stacks utilizes his Atlanta accent so much to how he uses words and he can pronounce

things that we can't pronounce. And make it rhyme. Yeah. That shit. New Orleans is a chicote. It's a fucking chico. Even down to, Wayne got so popular, y'all only even realize how deep of a New Orleans accent

that he has. But, yeah. You know, it made Birdman a good rapper. A, all right. I'm like, right. Accents be cool because how day's... Juvenile is an instrument. How Dave's Loaf rhyme try me with Fomley?

Y'all ain't never think about that shit. Fomley. How did nobody ever thought about that shit? All right, chicken and egg theory and we're biased. But A-Bugie to Dage Love. I do want to give her some credit. But Dajloaf is one of those that she's doing fine. But she's one of those that I also feel was a miscarriage of justice and how she was handled.

Because I think that girl is a fucking star. Yeah. I loved her music. And she got a bunch of kids. She got a bunch of kids out of her. She could come out today. And if she was to come out today with nobody ever knowing the name Dajloaf, she would be a fucking megastar.

She was before her time. Try me. I'll kill your whole motherfucking family. She was before her time, for sure. But she put out a project with Jocuis last year. that the single was pretty big. When artists like that, I never think that their time will ever be up when you are actually talented.

And I really think Dejloaf is super talented. Aren't they fake dating at one point? That I have no zero clue about that. It was Dejloaf and they had like an industry relationship. But why like Dejloaf came to Paloosa one time in LA. Uh-huh. And you can just tell when someone's actually down to earth. than like is a real human being and not some made up artist version of themselves she came with

mind you we in LA she came with like three of her Detroit aunties like was there was no entourage no nothing it was just her her and her aunties from Detroit like oh she's beautiful she's gorgeous beautiful um and in person too like she looks great of course everyone was respectful yeah mainly because of the Detroit aunties i don't think would no i didn't play that she's They don't play that shit. They don't play that shit. Today's show is brought to by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, which Mall, I don't even need to tell you, is Florida sports book. You knew that already.

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put out their cipher on the same day and probably is double the views. Listen, man, I can respect that hip-hop has transcended to a whole new world, and there's so many different outlets. I think that's really important. But I also can say that some of y'all fucking stink. You play that shit. I said, what the fuck is this? Turn it off. It stinks.

Turn it the fuck off. For those that didn't see it, Underground Cypher is what it's called. Apparently this isn't the first one. But the timing was just so odd. To just see the Bentley and the Chrysler of rap happen with on the radar. And again, no disrespect to Underground Seifer.

And no disrespect to any of these. Say artists, nigga. I don't want to. Say artists, nigga. People that have pro tools. Don't do that. People that have recording equipment. Art is subjective.

Sometimes. No, always art is subjective. The pictures of Mara got hanging up on your fridge. Some people might say they stink. but you know that Amar is an artist. My daughter's three. Not a grown man pretending to be high and depressed. You think they're pretending?

You don't think they're actually high and depressed? Probably. Yeah, I would fucking hope so. Were any of them nice? I made you turn it off two seconds in. Well, it started out with Captain Swag. Okay. Out of the gate.

And you know what? Half of this is Kanye's fault. And for the people that have not watched this, go watch this underground cipher 2026 before you listen to the segment. 90% of it is Playboy Cardi's fault. So that's the real person. And granted, I have said on this podcast, he deserved to be Grammy nominated for what he's done.

I can see his accomplishments and respect what he has done with his fan base. But he also has ruined an entire generation to thinking that the bullshit that he makes, they could also make. Like, there's a lot of bad rappers out there that probably loved T.I. GZ 50, artists that we love. They just sucked. Yeah.

That happens. But now imagine an artist that sucks like Playboy Cardi. Imagine what his kids that can't make music sound like. And you get the underground cipher of 2026. Oh, you on their ass. Matt Proxy,

you were the skinniest kid at Fat Camp. Okay, so he was decent. He was the, he was the, he was the, a girl you'd find pretty when the whole crew is just disgusting. Oh, like, all right.

Well, I mean, if I'm here, gun to my head. That's the only one that I would fuck. Yeah, gun to my head. Hollow tip hero was okay, I guess. But other than that, it was, it was, it was, it was atrocious, which is, you said art subjective. I'm allowed to say things are awful. Yeah.

It was really like, I can see the art sometimes in Cardi. I couldn't find, I couldn't find a crayon in this box. God damn. Too Smiley went viral. Demaris, they used the microphone as decoration. It was like an accessory. Oh, it was pre-reported? They were like, yes.

Oh, it wasn't a cipher. They were just, they were like playing their songs, like if we were all in a studio. Half of them didn't even hold the microphone up to their mouth, which is whatever, but like just don't have a microphone. So yes, half Playboy Carty's fault. But most of the beats sounded like, what was the intro to Yeezus? That was supposed to be ironic.

And again, I'm not, I'm fine if people hate the intro to Yeezus on site. I will give Kanye some bail because it does break into like the sample shit in the middle and then back to the nonsense. And that was Kanye's purpose. There was purpose to get you ready. He's like, I could have started it with blood on the leaves. Everyone had loved Yeezus. I was trying to make a statement.

And if you disagree with that, that's fine. but I can at least appreciate the intention there. But I can also say that I feel like on-site sounds like an array of auto-tune on farts. Like if you were just fart on microphone and then just change the pitch, that's what all these beats sounded like. And it's all sounded like on-site. So I don't know if it's Kanye's fault. Cardi's fault. I don't know whose fault is.

But I think we need to guide our youth. Do you think it's possible to run out of ideas? Like I remember when people were talking about all of the use of samples in rap. now, sampling the sample of the samples, right? Do you think that it's possible to just run out of new things to do? With the technology we have now, with what you can do in Ableton and logic, like when you were just dealing with ASRs and MPCs, like, there's only so many ways you can really chop a sample and come up with certain drum patterns. Now the way you can manipulate and change samples to the point that you wouldn't even recognize or know what somebody's sampling, no.

There should be no reason with what we have, take out AI, just in general. There should be no reason that every one of these people just sound like an awful version of Cardi or some other young rapper that has Autotune. But because it's so easy to do shit now, you get people like this that probably would have never made music had it not been so easy. But to the people that are very talented, I mean, yeah, with Ableton and everything, you could do Pro tool, you can do it what the fuck you want to.

Especially if you're talented. I've talked about the way with child, child is a trained musician. I also call him a tech guy. Like, he can play every instrument actually went to school. He's like a little child prodigy

when it comes to fucking keyboards. But he turns into a fucking tech guru when he gets into Ableton. Like the sky is the limit if you are actually talented. with what he can do in Ableton with his skill level. Like it's, it's insane. You've heard the beats I've made in Ableton.

I shouldn't be able to make that beat. As long as you know, like, if I didn't have Ableton, no, I don't have the brain capacity or the musical training to make some of the stuff that I make in Ableton. It makes it way easier. But it does allow you if you don't have the musical talent, but have a creative brain,

to find ways to make things that even train musicians wouldn't make. just not anything in the underground cipher. Do you want to see the too slimy? Do a little preview real quick? Sure. Let me see. Throw on the two slimy. Throw on that too slimy is so funny.

This is what happens when you make drugs. I mean, when you make music on methamphetamine. Methadamphetamines mixed with like cough syrup or Molly. I don't know what they're doing because when we had Molly, we back on. When we had Molly, we had good music. When we had cocaine, we had good music, heroin, good music.

What is this? What is the drug? K2? Nah, man, because I know there's plenty of artists that make good music off perks. It's the drug the internet. He didn't go in that studio to try to make a song that sounds good. He's trying to do something to go viral. I don't think any of these kids are stupid.

I think they understand the internet and they know if they are really, really bad, they'll make a moment. I don't think any of them thought this was, though. I don't think anyone in there went, yo, we killed that. I think everyone there is at the understanding that we are internet personalities. We're not artists. We're trying to make as many moments as we can.

We're going to be lit on TikTok. We're going to be laughed at in an ironic way. I really don't think any of them sat there and went like, yeah, we killed it. Do you think any of them are good and they're using like, they're doing like the doja cat, bitch I'm a cow thing so that they go viral for being so bad

then they release good music? Matt Proxy, if anything. I don't want to, again, skinniest kid at Fat Camp. Matt's first part was kind of cool. And a hollow-tip hero wasn't like the worst. I don't know. I can't say Captain Swag. I like Lil B, so I can't even like hate that much on him.

But it was a bad version of Lil B. But even then, Lil B was this in 05. We were looking at Lil B this way, but I was like, he kind of nice. nice in a weird way, but at least he, you know, sort of wrapped. This is, I just don't think these guys should be in a cipher. No. Maybe that's to get off the lawn in me, but I just don't just put out your music.

The lawn, the lawn being hip hop. You gatekeeping, you can't do that as Black History Month. I feel like Ray Vaughn would also feel the same way about these gentlemen. Okay, so it's okay. As long as Rayvon agrees. He's the gatekeeper. My fan. But do we have voicemails?

These are sponsored by Boost. You've got mail. Hey, what's up? Y'all? Shout out to everybody. I love the pod. I'm about to talk really fast to get all of this in. Okay, so boom, I have a...

I started a... I'm loosely homegirl. Within the past two or three years, we had hung out two or three times. Okay, it was never that deep. Past, I would say, four or five months, we've hung out way more than we ever have in the past. Why you ask? It's because of her nigger. Okay, so boom, she let me know a while ago.

Her nigg is polyamorous, whatever the fuck that means. Okay. He got a wife. She's a girlfriend. It's some other bitches on the side. It's a lot going on. All of it is not my fucking business. I don't give it.

Damn. We go out, we get tricked on. We have fun. She made it clear to me. He kind of like you, whatever. I'm like, I'm cool, whatever. Apparently he only has sex with the wife. Okay, apparently he's not trying to fuck nobody.

He just like to have bitches around. Okay. Oh, okay, whatever. He flirt is cool. Da-da-da-da-da. Fast forward to recently, he is making it clear like, listen, I'm not really fucking where her. You know, don't feel like you got to just only hang out with me.

when she's around. Only reason I really, you know, invite her or let her come around is because I know y'all going to come to. All right. So, boom, she's making it seem like she kind of would prefer for us to all hang out together because I got another home girl that he liked my other home girl too. But as recently, we've been hanging out spend time with him. I'm not going to lie, bitch, I'm having a blast without this bitch, okay?

And she's really not my home girl like that, but a part of me still kind of feel like damn, I should kind of let her know. But he's like, no, don't let her know. It's none of her business. But she'd be down bad about this man. So I don't know. Am I wrong? Should I keep her in the loop?

Or should I keep this bitch out of my business? Same way I said out of hers. I don't know. Okay. And just a little bit of extra backstory on the message that I just left. The other home girl specifically asked her because I was not really going to be into it. The other home girl specifically asked her, are you okay with us exploring him without you? Those were her exact words.

And she said, yes, have fun, have a blast. But you know how bitch is lie. So that's the only reason that we even started hanging out with him with. out her because she gave the green light. But now it's starting to feel like maybe she does not feel that way. I don't know. Well, that played

perfectly into the conversation we had. Good, a great circle back. That's no. I was like, I got my answer. I didn't know this world existed. Exploring. What a poetic way to put that? Bitch told me she'd explore my nigga. I'm interested in exploring the man that you were with.

I'll stay out of women's business to start. You wrong. wrong pool and here's here's my thing it's okay to be wrong but you got to learn how to stand out being wrong what i heard in this message is you giving a bunch of excuses for why you wrong just be wrong stand on your wrongness and say that you value the potential of having fun with this nigger more than you value that girl or any potential friendship with her what i will say is if he is the type of nigger that if you know he she down mad about him he know she down bad about him he was messing with her outside of the wife, whatever, he was messing with her and is willing to be disloyal

to her to fuck with you and the other home girl. Please know that your time is coming. It just ain't here yet. He's not a loyal person. And you should never shit on somebody for a disloyal person because it is eventually going to be your turn. And then you will lose both of them. First of all, she's a cool bitch because she didn't have to bring you around her nigga. She, you, she know her nigga type. She didn't have to bring you around. She bought you around. You getting free drinks, free food, having a time, all this, all that. She didn't have to do that. And you're going to go and spitting her face by going, hanging with this nigga behind her back. Even if she said it was okay, you know that he has other intentions. He's saying this loyal shit about her to you. Like,

he ain't really fucking with her like that. Nah. But if you're not going to be a stand-up bitch, stand-on it. But just know that you're not a stand-up bitch and you got to go to sleep with every night. Some people do that every night. They don't have no problem with it. Me personally, I can't. I ain't judging you, but don't try to make it seem like what it's not. The facts of the facts, you wrong. Do you give any credence to her saying that's not like really her friend? That's cool. It don't matter though.

Because I've also heard you say before like don't let your friend stand in the way of your soulmate. I never said that. What I said was don't let your boyfriend get the way of your husband. That's even worse. That's what I said. My friends can stand in the middle of anything. okay, me and you have, you've introduced me to women who I became cool with, right, off the strength of you.

We might not be the best of friends, closest to friends, but I've become cool with them off of strength of you. There's certain shit I just wouldn't do just because we cool. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Like, there's certain people I wouldn't date without, because if I have to go look you in your face and I'm going to feel awkward about it, then I need to have a conversation with you about something.

If we're never going to cross pass again and this could never be a thing, then that's different. that girl invited you out with her and her man she might value you more than you value her the game and symbol she might value you more than you value her but at the end of the day she valued you enough to bring you around her man I'm sure y'all text each other I'm sure y'all have had conversations so yeah you might not look at her as a close friend

but you ain't have no problem acting like you was her close friend when you was eating in her nigga pockets eating having drinks hookah all that I mean does that you're right I'm just looking from her perspective. She does not think that person is a friend like that. Like, I'm not supposed to get a free. Like, you invited me. All right, cool. No, but it's not about the free shit. It's about the fact that that man want to fuck with her. And he, like, I just want to hang out with you. I only bring her around because I know you was coming. That's this loyal shit. I don't care if it's your best.

Oh, no. Both, no. Both them are dirtbacks. I want to make that very clear. Yeah. I'm just saying she, how she views it, because you only know what you know. If she doesn't view that person really as her friend, at that point, I guess the game is. the game. Yeah, the game is the game. But don't try to make yourself feel better about the game being the game. The game is the game. Stand on it. I know you have second thoughts and you know that it's wrong because you call it in an as-star opinion. You know on the side, you know that that's wrong.

But everything else is more of more value to you. I've done shit that I knew was wrong, but it was because what I was doing I was wrong had more value to me than what I was going to lose. Did it come back and bite me in my ass? Yes, but I got to stand on that and say I was wrong. I knew I was wrong. I was conceit. I was conceit. I was conceit. I was conceived because the game is the game. Yeah, for sure. My mother was living with the chick. My dad was,

fuck it. The game is the game. I'm just saying that some people don't view it. If that's not really your friend, it's not that case. But yeah, you're both. But I don't know. If you guys end up falling in love,

does that even matter 20 years down the line? That little interaction? We don't even speak to that girl anymore. He has a wife. Has a side chick. He's a polyshy. He's Polly, but the, okay. He has a little.

a wife, that's the, people don't even know what Polly means, but he has a wife and a side chick. But the white knows because he's, yes, but he's being disloyal to the side chick for the side chick's friends. But Polly means that's the man that you're going to fall. Polly means everybody's dating each other. And that's not what's happening. But you think that that type of person that would do that is going to be loyal, would fall in love with you later on? Oh, no. I think what you said before, like the clock's going to be on her at some point as well. But I don't know if you have the Polly mindset would, is he just not trying to get his, his, his, his tribe? Like it takes a village?

Is it? Yeah. Because I've never, I don't, never been Polly. I don't know the Polly rules. Is it cheating if he fucks the other friend? Like, yes. He's in two relationships. Yes, it's cheap. Gotcha. Okay. Polly requires everybody, if I'm not mistaken, everybody's all in one relationship. An open relationship would be you're allowed to just sleep with people. What he's, what he's, what he's doing is non-monogamy and it's not ethical because he's not being completely honest. Got you. Ethical non-monogamy is when everybody is aware of everything that's going on. All parties are aware of what's going on.

He's sneaking behind Shorty Bagged at or trying to fuck. But then she said that he don't like fucking other women. And you know what? They just party and I don't know. This is why I can't fuck. This is why I can't fuck with this guy either because a friend of ours who won't be named was in a poly relationship. And she was with this dude for a while.

Like they went to sex club together. they had had a pretty good romance with other people and were fine with what was going on. And he went behind her back to fuck another girl. And she was like, all you have to do is tell me. That's why I can't fuck with people that, how you cheat in a poly relationship? All you have to do is just tell your girl, I'm going to go sleep with this person. And you still sneaking? That makes no sense to me.

If you are given the gift of your girls and go sleep safely with whoever you want to sleep with, just keep me abreast of what's going on. How could you fuck that up? Because most people aren't aware of why they're fucking. They're not aware of why they're fucking or why they want to fuck other people. If you don't know the real reason why you're doing something, then you'll never be able to be honest about it because you don't even know why you're actually doing it. Most people don't cheat because they just want some new pussy.

No, no, for sure. It has so much to do with ego. Some people are addicted to thrill. The line provides a thrill that you don't get. Nothing's fun if you have to be all on the table with it. It's not fun. I think the complete opposite. I know, but a lot of people.

No stress. No, like. A lot of people are not aware. Because even in that, and don't quote me, I believe it was with a girl that they both had slept with or was part of whatever. She was like, he was linking with someone that was attached to her without her knowing. Yeah. And to me, that's like, yeah, that's kind of nuts.

I don't just fucking say it. You're going out of your way to be disloyal. Especially when your girl would just be like, all right, cool. You all have fun. Or maybe not. But there's a million and 18 other girls that you can sleep with. Why do you want the one that you can't? Which is why I say people don't know why they're cheating.

If it's just about sex, there's a million of 18 girls you can sleep with. This one just happens to be attached to me and my friend. You can't sleep or hurt, but that's the one that you really want. It's not about the sex. Go to therapy. Yeah. But that's why I didn't think I could even do like a thruple thing at all because now you're dealing with people's egos and who's hanging out with who.

I don't know. The poly world, again, it makes sense to me. I understand that plenty of people, rightfully so, feel like they don't want to be with the same person and want to do it in a safe and honest way. But it sounds like too many personalities in one place. I don't think Neo is growing his hair back. I think he's more stressed. Like I don't think Neil's life has gotten easier.

It's probably gotten more exciting. Mm-hmm. Easier? No. Dealing with people's emotions is a lot. I cannot imagine dealing with multiple emotions. It's fun on a vacation if you want to have three girlfriends for a week, but for light. Oh, my God. A week is a long time.

Very long time. Yo, when niggas be some, you got somebody, another, another nigger. I don't want you. What? Oh, my God. Please. Like. Boost doesn't have enough data.

You never answered my question But before we wrap up Not at mall isn't here to laugh You feel like I'd be being meany The fans keep saying I talk to you like shit No I don't think that whatsoever I do talk to you like shit sometimes though But that's because I love it

I know our They don't know our relationship So no They think I don't respect you I shouldn't talk to you like that Because you my boss No we're friends And I'm totally fine with it

And a lot of it is My shit But then again you are mean to me off Mike So I was gonna I was going to say, yeah, it's just on a mic. Yeah, no, I don't feel any type of way. I give you tough love.

I give you tough love that you need. I can see more with the arguments you and Maul have. I know that that's just how we argue here, but I can see that way. Well, me and Ma'll be by the swing on each other. But I see that way more than like when you're mean to be laughing at that shit. Like, I don't really can. Yeah. You've never been nice to me.

That is not. When Amara was like baking and then when she was born, I was very nice to you. You did drop, well, I mean, you were already on the way of the house, but you dropped what you were doing and watched Basley when, when Marr was born. Yeah. Stayed there. Yeah, all right.

It's only a nice thing. You got to be nice at a peach. That's really it. When you be talking over me, I'd be like, yo, Pige, what's good with him? He cool? What can't keep talking over me for? Because I'm like, I just, I can't say that word. I sometimes think I'm going to forget my thought, and I'd just say it. I've blurted out.

It's Tourette's. You sweat. Not the same. He's hot as shit. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to be sweating. God damn. That makes you nervous?

No, it's not making me nervous. Oh, okay. I have not the same Tourette's that were yelled at Michael B. Jordan. But yeah, maybe I have some. Bruh, let me tell you. Maybe I have some Tourette's. I'm sick because I'm sorry, but sometimes racism is funny to me. Like, sometimes racism, especially when it doesn't really harm anyone,

racism is funny to me. Because when I watched that clip, I didn't know what to expect. So when I just heard, he shouted, I was like, oh, my God. He caught me off God. I don't know how they kept a straight face. It's not funny. but imagine standing at that podium and just hearing someone yell the heart like what the and then having to read the prompter

no it's not funny but it's fucking nuts to think about like you just sitting there about to see in your suit everything getting ready for timing and you just hear that from stage left that is it's insane and here go here go to people don't be able because people like, well, his ass don't need to go. Like if your Tourette's, if your tick is shouting slurs, you don't need to be at a certain event. They're like, nah, that's abelisk. No, the fuck it's not.

Because whenever I've seen people with ticks for like Tourette's, it'll never got nothing to do with the situation. That shit was too, the context was perfect. Yeah. And again, I don't know enough about Tourette's, but I feel like your ticks come from somewhere. They don't just pop up at a, who was the girl that went viral,

which went up? When it up? Baby Dix and was doing this to Cuomo. Bailey. Yeah, she's hilarious. But there's no way that she hasn't heard the term little baby dicks in a British accent added. Like, she didn't create that.

Yeah. Whoever yelled that out, somebody told him that word. Somebody told, no, he meant that. The context is too perfect. He didn't say that shit when Cameron Diaz was up at the fucking podium. He said when them two black ass niggas was up there. You meant what you said. You meant exactly what the fucking.

you said. Was the person white? Yes. You thought it was a black person yelling at? I don't know. No. I've heard Charleston White say it. No, that was a white man. I thought it was Charleston white man, bro. His ass needs to stay home. Okay. Again, I didn't want to be ableist. That's not able. If I have Tourette's, maybe an award show isn't my best. Well, he was there because there was a movie loosely based on him or inspired by him or whatever that was nominated. Oh, Which makes sense, right? That makes sense. However, certain ticks.

If you have Tourette, you have Tourette's, you deserve to be there like your advocate for it, whatever. If your Tourette's are slurs, again, I just say, maybe you should stay your ass home. It just makes sense. Take him to the bathroom when Michael B. Jordan's up there. Just something. But clearly, his impulse was based off what he was looking at. And it's possible to be disabled and racist at the same time. That one does not negate the other one.

Yeah. There's white gay men that are racist that is, I find hilarious. Like, how are you, you're racist? Chow and be trying to be just like us. They talk just like me. But out of rhythm. That's funny to say that Tourette's would ever cause someone not to be racist. Like, there's no way someone could be racist and have Tourette's.

That's, you know, being racist with Tourette, the shit that will come, if you were racist, the shit that comes out of your mouth, just walking down the street. in New York City? Oh my God. The racist people without Tourette's yelled away. Exactly. That's crazy.

Yeah. He needs to, they gave like a, a, what killed me is there was a two-hour delay on the show. Why y'all ain't cut that out? I didn't even know that point.

It was not live. It was not live. It was not live. The rollout, man. That's for the movie. Because now I'm going to go watch this Tourette's movie. Well, now that's super disrespectful

because you are disrespected to amazing actors for a role. out. Welcome to Hollywood. Very true. In the UK. Can you get me a ride home? I have to stream.

Oh, you have to stream. I'm so sorry. I got to stream, you know. What are you going to do on the stream? Do you even know how to stream? What are you going to do on the stream? We're going to listen to other people's music. Okay. I think that's the plan.

But yeah. I'll send you an album for you to check out. Felicity Temple. Okay. Or Felicia. I might be distristened her. Wait, like, the singer? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I didn't know you listened to her. She's like low-key a legend, but yeah. You just pronounced her name wrong. Belisha Temple, a soft place to land, her latest album. Yeah, I haven't listened to her latest album, but yeah, no, she's incredible. She was been a hook queen. She's amazing. I think she lives out here.

Oh, wow. You should link her for your next album. I mean, it's done. So you keep saying, so you keep telling us. I love when men lie to me. We can get out of her. This is an I-Heart podcast, guaranteed human.