New Rory & MAL - Episode 46 | "Clapped Up"

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

Rory & Mal catch you guys up on their busy work week of hanging with rappers, and try to remember why Daniel Caesar got cancelled. Rory ponders what will happen with Dre's stems and unreleased music when he passes, while Mal wonders if now would be a good time for Detox to come out. They discuss the upcoming Murder Inc docuseries, and the upcoming Dreamville fest. Rory takes us down STD memory lane, and this leads into a conversation about exploring dating and sexuality in your teens. They also get into the sex trafficking scares going on, upcoming music, the Slaughterhouse split, + more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, you PPP niggas is shaking in your boots now. You niggas was busting checks all year. I took mine down. different social security number. I'm good. Y'all was busting checks all year. Tomoy, yo, all you got to do is this. And you know what they say? And he's playing that starts with all you got to do? You're going to jail.

This is Al-Biden going to come in your crib, getting your pee-pee shit. Fed's just knocking on y'all door banging this. Right up the tank. No, warrior, my. We get that game interview today. Did it tonight? I think it airs on revolt tonight.

As in Thursday. How much cap you think game is spitting? Oh, he's going to have on a bucket hat. Yeah. I cannot wait. But I think that game be trolling a lot, man. I don't think he's serious with none of this shit. I think game has been caught in so many lies that he's done them purposely.

Yeah. Like, he knows I'm going in to tell you guys a lie. Yeah. I mean, it makes for good entertainment. But it's just like, I just, I hope this is for entertainment because nobody believes that. We've seen some of the captions that are floating around from the interview. Game drunk with Norie instigating. Yeah, this might be the biggest lie festival at all time.

Yeah. And you know Norrie's going to co-sign every lie. Well, Norrie likes to make sure that his pod is entertaining, no matter what. Like, you know, let the guests say whatever they want to say. And, you know, if it's entertaining, it's entertaining. But I saw one that you sent to the chat saying that Game told a hole he had to check in. Yeah, he's not good in L.A. no more. He can't come to L.A.

I believe Jay has the biggest house in California. In L.A. right now. I saw another clip. Oh, no, this was on Clubhouse. It wasn't on, from the interview. Game had said he wrote Whatup Gangster for 50 on Get Richard That's Ryan. Was Game even around 50, man? No.

So he's just having fun. And 50 wrote Whatup Gangster before he even signed a train. That's what I was to say. I don't know, but okay, maybe he added a bar, helped him here and there. I don't know. It's going to be entertaining. I know that. Listen, y'all know I love game.

I think his discography is amazing. I think he's hilarious. That speaks for itself. But I was a, I had mentioned to you about us possibly sitting down with game, I think one time last year when we were in L.A. I know. And I'm tight that Norrie beat us to it because I don't think we'll be able to top whatever No, no, no.

I don't want to talk to game now. He got his, he got his podcast and career out the way early. But yeah, I'm going to watch it because I like game. Norie is obviously fam. So I think that those two personalities together will make some entertaining conversations. I think game is going to start podcasting after this. I think he's going to see the response that he gets with this drink champs episode. Because I think this is going to be one of the bigger drink champs.

And that's saying something. Just because I know game. Yeah. And then again, it's a lot that game has seen and been a part of. And I know everybody does want to hear what he has to say about the Super Bowl snub. I want to hear what he has to say about Jimmy Henschman. I don't give a fuck about the Super Bowl. You think, well, I'm sure they, I don't know how in depth he may go into that.

It's all public record. No, I mean, on drink chance of Nore. I just don't know. But I'm pretty sure Nori asked, brought that up. Oh, for sure. Norrie was there. Yeah. Yeah, for sure Nore was around.

Game's not the only one that was shooting outside of Hot 97. No, he was too. Yeah, no, allegedly. Allegedly. It's on camera. I think everyone's admitted it. It is. It's on camera.

And it's on camera. But yeah, nonetheless, I do want to check that episode out. Shout out to Norrie for another... And EFM. And EFN for another dope drink champs episode. What's going on with you, though, man? How was the weekend? How was the week?

The week, rather. Yeah. I don't remember the days anymore. We did the Soho House thing with Conway. That was fun. We'll have some clips from that. Shout out to Conway. Cool to talk with him about the album.

Number one rap album in the country. Then we went to dinner. You picked up the tab. A little private room. I arrived. They said, are you here for Jamil? I was like, I am. How did you know that I was here for Jamil?

Because when I got there, the host said, oh, I think your friend is already here. I didn't even know you were there yet. I was like, who was she talking about? Because you're a regular there. And then I turned the corner and I saw the palest face in the room. I said, yeah, that's my guy. I was not, that was the one on the Upper West Side.

That was not the one in Harlem. You know when the candle light hits your face, it makes it a little more white. No, the candle was hitting the candle. Oh, that's what it was. Okay. I lit the candle with my face. You a candle in the sun?

It's a very beautiful song, actually. And he's now back with his girl, so we might get another. That's what it's called on Miguel's shit, right? What? The outro? It's not candles in the sun? No.

Is that it? It's candles in the sun? Yeah, don't talk to me about my Miguel knowledge. That's a classic album. Miguel's album? Colladoscope Dreams to me is a classic album. I'm not mad at that. Yo, you know what album I was listening to?

this week and I was like, damn, we didn't, I don't think we gave this album when it came out of enough love.

Daniel Sears' album. Yeah. I can't pronounce it, but, Frutian. Fruidian. However you say it. Daniel Seas' album

is really dope. What's up with Dan? You don't, you don't speak to him? No, um, did I ever publicly say that we,

we squashed beef? You did. And then we saw him when we were leaving in a highlight room in L.A. Oh, yeah, that's right. Softest beef in the world,

by the way. Paulus. How do you have beef for Daniel Caesar? I didn't have beef with him. He had beef with you. He had a little issue

with you. No. What did you say? No, I didn't say. I've been, I played Daniel Caesar before anybody, period. I do take,

I don't take a lot of credit for certain stuff. I'm taking credit for the beginning of Daniel Caesar as far as getting those first records out there. I am going to take credit on that one.

Frodeon. So he, I forgot. Was he defending? Yes, Jules or some shit? That's what it was Okay And mind you

I don't think I said anything About him besides of like That's weird That's a weird thing for Someone to do Defend yes Joel I thought it was odd But that's a friend

That's not odd To defend your friend I don't think they know each other Oh well then that's odd Now that takes everything If they don't know each other Then that's odd That's odd

And he had said Something to our former co-host Along the lines of Well I bet Rory uses the N-word too Okay Another person Yet again Accusing me of using this word

I don't know why people think Or want you to use that word so bad They just want me to That shit is so stupid Man It's just dumbest shit in the world So I think I went on the pod And was like that's corny

Don't just put that on somebody Like oh he probably says it Yeah And I was like man Fuck Daniel Caesar Then I was in Long Beach I forgot what festival it was You know I was festivaling

Yeah I was in the artist village Because I'm important I'm kidding Right snuck a wristband sharing wristbands with somebody back there and

someone taps on my shoulder and I turn around he's like I don't want to fight I was like I didn't think you wanted to and we had a great talk he was like though I was wrong I shouldn't have said that shit

I apologize and we've been friends since Daniel Caesar is a great guy man super good guy super cool great artist so yeah shout out to Daniel Caesar that Frutian album is really great I was listening to it this week and we need some new Daniel Cesar

man. He, of course, wasn't successfully canceled. He was just on one of the biggest records with Justin Bieber. He's successfully canceled. I think he might be one of the only people that was successful. People love Daniel Seeker. He's on the number one record of 2021.

When Justin Bieber's singing about fucking Apple Pies and Georgia Peaches and shit. Isn't Daniel Caesar on that song? Yeah, he's on that song. Him and give you all, right? Yeah, but that doesn't. Daniel Caesar is not canceled. Bro. Daniel Caesar

had the world, bro. Have you heard anything about But I don't think he's, I think he's just not working. I think he's made be doing it. It's been years. And I think he put something out. It's been years. He's canceled where? On Twitter? No. His album sold. Yeah, like that's something. He's not canceled. I don't think he's putting out any music, but he's not canceled. If he puts out music tomorrow, people are going to stream it. That's Daniel Caesar. He's a really, really talented artist. I was just listening to his

album and I was like, damn, like, we haven't heard a project from him. Because that came out in 2017. Something like that. Something like that, yeah. So I was listening to it. Great album. Miguel's album, Colladiscope Dreams, another great album. We'd love to have new music from both of these guys.

Miguel is happily back with his wife. So I'm pretty sure we're going to get a new project full of love and pretty melodies. Oh, no, we got, I was thinking that was the second album. Case Study 01 came out in 2019 from Daniel Caesar. Okay. Farrell's on it, John Mayer, Brandy. That record with Brandy.

He's fucking crazy. Love again. You can't be canceled when you're doing records with fucking Brandy. I'm sorry. There's only one person that the coach

has successfully canceled outside of Robert Kelly. And that was Cressette, Michelle. And I think it's time that we bring Cressette Michelle back. God damn it. Well, that's just you're on the same team as her.

That's why. I'll bring Cresset back before we bring Daniel's either day. What? What did Daniel do? No, somebody tell me, what did Daniel you do to get canceled? Seriously.

I don't remember. You don't remember. No. He defended. Yes, Jules, right? Exactly. But it's the way he defended it. So he put out a tweet and basically it says,

why are we being mean to Jules? Why are we being mean to white people right now? This is a serious question. Why is it that we're allowed to be disrespectful and rude to everybody? And when anybody returns any type of energy to us, that's not equality. He was mean to me. Wait, he tweeted that and then put the N-word on my jacket. He was alive fucking caping.

Like, why are we being fucking mean to her? I don't give a fuck. You guys can fucking cancel me. I don't care. You guys just stopped being fucking mean to her. Like, people weren't being mean to her for a reason. Like, Scotty and them didn't have a reason for the shit that they were calling her out on. He should have just minded his business when it came to that because everybody was right.

He's Canadian. What are you want from him? I'm fucking around. You want to cape for them, you could cape for them. But you got to deal with what comes with it. But he said cancel him. So shit, that's what they did. But yes, Jew's not even canceled.

How you get canceled for someone that's not canceled off what they did? This whole cancel shit to me It's just like People just wake up one day and decide Yo, we're going to just send out a bunch of aggressive tweets Towards this person But that cancel shit We should not be canceling Daniel Caesar

I think I now have a reissue with him I didn't realize he tweeted Why are we being mean to white people And then he was mean to me That very same day Well, it's balanced You said equality, right? I'm going to defend white people

But then I'm also going to shit on white people But why you got to defend Jules And shit on me? I was going to say How are you going to defend one culture of culture or not the other one? That's true. Well, people want to fuck Jules.

People don't want to fuck me. I've seen some guys in the tweets lately. They're like your eyes and your beard. The fads, the fads thing. You and Fas are like the two hottest ginger's in town right now. He brought the stock up. I can't be mad at all. He better not die because I need another.

2024, I'm back. We found out they were supposed to kill him. But they changed it the day before to shoot and decided, no, we'll keep him on because we might need to bring him back for the next season because the people seem to to really love him. A heartthrob. Yeah. I could have called you.

Listen, I could play Fez. Yeah, absolutely. I could play the older Fez. The older. Like instead of flashbacks. He actually looks old as future. He does look older than you. That's the funny shit.

He looks older than you. I can talk really slow. Roo, come on. Roo. Get out, Roo. Roo. All you got to do is take a few shots and you start really talking like that.

That's your real voice after you take a few shots. We are. How do you didn't fuck Roo, man? How he He looked at her like a little sister Oh there's plenty of guys that have Fucked their sister That wasn't their sister

That's the trailer park special right there I met like sister Not actually fucked I know my bad I apologize I apologize I said I'm sorry It's nasty

What were you saying? I'm sorry Yeah What man He looks at her like a little sister That he fucking got hooked on more drugs He didn't get her hooked on more drugs

He didn't get her hooked out more drugs He gave her He provided her with drugs when she came for So that she won't fuck her on And go get some unsafe shit from someone else Yeah then That's responsible He brought a drug addict around

Enablers that were doing heroin In his backseat He didn't know that girl was gonna be what that dude She wasn't supposed to be there Mm-hmm I heard you Yeah I don't know why they brought her along That shit anyway

You gotta keep a drug addict In a trap house That sounds counterproductive That doesn't sound like a smart eye I do. But I'm here to defend in Love Fess. He's done a lot for my career, my face. He did.

I've gotten zero pussy because of it. But it is nice to, you know, have redheads actually look appealing for once. So we did the Conway shit at Soho House. And then we went out after. I met up with you guys. Oh, that's right. We did go out. We met you guys at last lap.

And Rory came to the door because the gentleman at the door was giving me a hard time. But a little difficult time. He asked me for a ticket. I didn't know you needed tickets to go on last lap. I didn't know it either. I had no idea. He probably didn't want you to come in. I felt like that.

And I was kind of like, I think this gentleman doesn't want me here. He doesn't like my face, whatever. So you came and got me and we walked through last lap. And it literally felt like we walked through four different parties. Absolutely. Like, there was a lot of shit going on in last lap. And like different phases of the party too. Like, there was like the calm beginning.

Like, oh, let's have a glass of wine. Then in the corner there was degenerates doing fucking shots of tequila. Then upstairs, it's just people drinking out the bottle straight. People grinding on each other on the wall. With no music playing. People, you know, I like the corner of people that's like the people that are ready to go at the parties. They had their coat on. You can tell like they're ready to walk out.

They're having like that one last conversation with that person before they leave. Yeah. See, possibly I could get some pussy. I like that group right there. That's where I like to stand in the parties. But it was good to see, you know, people out in last lap having a good time, some familiar faces. It was good to see you. I was like, Ma, out with us.

Yeah, man. Look, man, I went by Astor Club. I got my medication, you know what I'm saying? And then I came up and met y'all. But I had to get out of there, man. Once things started, I started hearing conversations on the sides. It's just funny to hear the type of shit. Yo, let me eat you out on the phone.

I'm like, I'm like, yo, I'm going to get up out of here, y'all. I mean, in that gentleman's defense, it was what, 1.30 in the morning. He had been drinking. He was on FaceTime. It's about that time to ask those type of questions. Yeah, but listen, I'm not mad at it. Can I eat your pussy? We've all been there, so I'm not mad at it.

It was just a lot of shit going on, and then that was kind of like the, all right, I might need to get out of here. This is like a lot of shit going on ahead of night. But y'all was safe, y'all, you found your bag, I thought you lost your laptop. That was like going to ruin the night for me. I was like, Rory then got super lit and forgot where he put his laptop. I mean, at that point, I didn't care. No, you should, I care. Like that fuck, I was like, if he lost this laptop, I know how much shit you have in your laptop.

So I was like, damn, this is going to ruin his fucking. Just would have been another thing to add to the list. Yeah. But it was good to go out and see people out of last lap. What else did we do? We took Conway to dinner last night before he got out of town, kicked it with him in his team. Shout out to Jay Skis. Love the Genius.

Chad. DJT. Con's DJ. Really good. One of the better sets I've heard in quite a time. He really was playing some really fucking, I mean, I wasn't expecting. to hear some of those records he played at Soho House. He was playing fucking C sides, not even B sides.

But he said he grew up in that era, the mixtape era, heavy dipset, you know. He was playing. He was playing some AZ shit. I was like, all right, fan. Nah, as an AZ records, they weren't even on albums. Exactly. What is going on?

Shout out to DJT. He did his thing. And yeah, that was our week pretty much. I really didn't do nothing outside of that. Nah, Z never even tried to do that album, huh? The funny thing is, I think they could do it now. I think what everything Nause is doing with Hit Boy, I think there's a room for a Nause AZ project with Hit Boy.

And he's in shape, too. I mean, Doa or Die too was great. Mega is still in shape. He's about to put out the realness to. We might need a firm reunion, like a proper one with Mega. Because Mega and Nas are on great terms now. Is Foxy still a part of it? Would she still be a part of it?

Her terrible math is more than welcome on the album. We need that. We need terrible math. Mathematics. That verse is fucking crazy. Listen, man, I'm all for a firm album, but it would have to be everyone. I mean, Hip Boy got them together and they sounded good on a... Yeah.

Nause album before this one, King's Disease. Was it on one or two? One, I believe. Yeah. I don't know if I don't want Dre to produce it, though. You don't want Dre to produce it? One, it'll never come out, if that's the case. Okay.

But why wouldn't you... That's why you wouldn't want them to do it because you don't think it would come out? I don't know where Dre is at right now musically. I mean, he's the greatest ever, but that doesn't mean that he may not be in the space to create a firm album. Like, I would rather some active producers be the ones that would put that together and ones that are in touch with what is going on at the current moment. Not to say Dre isn't, but I'm just saying it wouldn't come out. Do we still want the detox album?

I mean, I thought we got it. Isn't that the content album? Is it? I don't know. I think the detox was supposed to sound a lot different from the Copton album. The Compton album, I think, was something that happened almost by accident. The movie. Yeah.

Like, I think that happened. It was kind of like, oh, shit, we might as well just put out a whole joint. But if you don't give Dre an incentive, then he's not going to do shit. No, but I know there are songs recorded for that detox album. Thousands. So I think that we, I don't know. I feel like we need that. And I feel like now is the time for that.

type of those albums that we were supposed to get years ago, I think now more than ever is a good time for those type of albums to come out because of the way you can put out albums market, do a show around it, even do a documentary around it. I think there's so many different ways to present an album now and an album that's as nostalgic as the detox was supposed to be for the culture. I think now more than ever is a dope time for us to get that. I mean, just all of Drey's hard drives, I'm curious what, and I don't want to talk about his demise. I hope Dre lives forever.

But at that time, I see what happened with Prince and everything. All of Dr. Dre's hard drives, I'm curious what's going to happen with all those. That's going to be interesting. And I wonder what he's going to put in his will of like no one can open any of these hard drives. They're all password protectors. So then we'll never So they will never get it Yeah, that's what I think

But yeah I don't know Speaking of nostalgia shit Murder Inc is putting out a What is it, a documentary Or is it a series? A docu-series I like docu-series

I like those I don't like just one I feel like you try to cram too much shit Into one episode Well they have quite a history This house Yeah, absolutely Well I hope they start with

Just Irv as the first episode And his story prior to Murder Inc Because that's a crazy story itself. I mean, say what you want about Irv. Irv has been the catalyst for some of our favorite shit ever. Mall is sitting here today because of Irv Gotti. That's crazy.

I wouldn't need another story. But I understand what he's saying. Like, Irv's fingerprints are on a lot of the culture, a lot of classic records, classic artists that we got, classic albums. So, yeah, he's definitely, Irv Gotti is a figure in hip hop that, you know, those that know know his story and know exactly how long he's. been doing what he does and how intricate he was in a lot of careers and stuff like that before Murder Inc. Yeah. Mike Geronimo shit. No. Jay. Yeah. So, I mean, it's, you know. D.M.X.

It's definitely a story. DmX, of course. It's definitely a story there where Irv Gotti. And I'm glad that this is a docu-series because it's a lot of shit that we need, they need to cover. Yeah. Not even outside of the music they put out. Or even the June of shit. Or even the fucking court cases and the pream shit. Like, that story is. How long, how in depth do you they go with that? I mean they won the case in court. They can talk about it. They could give every single, I can't

speak, every last detail you could give at that point. But do you, again, do you think they stay away from that? No. Because at this point, that is a very intricate part of the story and the legacy of Murder Inc. You can't tell a story of Murder Inc. without addressing that part of it.

Yeah, but I do think they made more of the feds made more of a bigger deal for those that don't know they got arrested Irv and his brother for money laundering

they were saying Supreme was taking his money and laundering through murder ink and they beat the feds which fucking never happens I just think they I think the feds

kind of blew that out of proportion and it really wasn't that like there was really just a friendship between Irv and Prime at that point but it wasn't

you know they were trying to tie things together to make something stick I know they was extraordinary them and all that type of shit And listen, I don't know the fucking truth. All I know is they did win the court case

and that they did not do any money laundering. So, yeah, they can go through that entire thing. Yeah. But this is definitely going to be a docu series that I think is done well. I don't think that they're going to let people just, you know, put some bullshit together. I think this is going to be really dope.

And it's good to get this story out there because, you know, this generation now is not too familiar with Murder Inc. And Jarl and Ergaddy. You know what I mean? They're not too familiar with all of that. So I think this is a good time for this documentary. And I think John needs his flowers, man.

Absolutely. And I'm saying that objectively because I do have a bias on the other side. But I, Jod deserves his flowers, herb deserve. Like, I really want people to realize what that murder ink movement was like. Like, they were controlling everything. Yeah. Like, the way QC is dominating right now, murder ink was dominating. Ashanti.

You can't talk about murder ink without Ashanti. Shit, Lloyd. Lloyd. Lloyd had a run. Yeah. Like, they was really doing some shit. She did a lot of great shit, man. Do we know when this airs?

This summer. Sometime this. Okay. Sometime this summer. And Irv is also doing the Prime documentary or series. I'm not sure which one it is. I have to look at that as well. But I'm excited for that.

That's my era. Mary J. Blas is coming out with a lifetime movie. She's executive producing about her life. Is it called my life? Never mind. It is. I got you. True.

that should be interesting Mary had an interesting life outside of music. We heard it in the music. And still is having an interesting life. After all that she has done in her career, something we was talking about this week.

You said Mary Jay is paying alimony. What did you say? So she's definitely out here. Wait, hold on. I said something off mic, sir. Do not have me offending a black black woman right now. No, it was just funny because I didn't, I never looked at it like that. So when I thought about it was like, oh, you know what, you might be right.

I hate that it had to be married, but I am happy for what it represents for men across the world. Yeah. Yeah. That was a win for men. It was. It was a win for men. Sorry, Mary. That was a win for man. We still love you. You had to be the sacrificial lamb in that regard. Dreamville Fest. I know we're just running through shit right now, which I'm not mad at, because there isn't really shit going on. I like when we just run through a bunch of The lineup looks great, though, that Dreamville lineup. That lineup is crazy. You guys want to go?

Well, if we don't have to do shit for Grammys, I'm definitely going on. I'm definitely going to that. I went to the last one, and it was a really, really well put together festival. But DJ Drama with Wayne, GZ, and T.I. Might be one of the greatest things I've ever seen on a festival lineup before. That's hard. That's going to be nuts. Like, the rest of this shit is great.

Jiro Nishanti, Earth Gang, Blast, Kailani, a little bit. Baby, Wiz Kid, Wale, T. Payne, that's going to be great. Larry June, Ari Lennox, obviously the rest of Dreamville. But that Gangsta Grill's set is going to be insane. I'm definitely going to that. I like the fact that festivals are back. Everyone seems to be ready to hit the stage and perform again. I got to go to that.

Well, it's either that or Vegas. Same weekend as Grammys. Yeah. on my pick Dreamville with the Grammys. Well, I don't know. Are you going to do it? You're not going to go to the...

Yeah, you're putting the list together. You're curating the Rock Nation brunch. I am not curating the Rock Nation brunch. They do not want me to curate the Rock Nation brunch. That would be pretty funny, right? There's a day. Some of the Instagram bitches there. Why?

If you're curating it. Oh. I'm importing. I'm overseas. So you're sex trafficking. Yeah, that sounded crazy. That's important. You're the J.P. Morgan of...

Nobody said anything about sex. See, y'all threw sex in it. I just said I'm inviting a different type of woman. You said you're importing. Yeah, I'm bringing them in from overseas. A good. They're crossing... For 90-day fiancé, right?

No, just for the brunch. And then they can go back... Okay. Go back to their respective homes. Czechoslovakia and Italy. Well, I don't know. Italy, yes. Italy has some beautiful women.

Beyonce is going to kick those bitches out immediately. Of the brunch? Yonthe won't be there. At the brunch? Why? If you think Beyonce... They say don't scroll down that invite list. She's not going to know them names.

She's not going to know how to pronounce those names. That's what I'm saying. There's got to be women that nobody knows, right? And they show up and it's the most beautiful women. Like, oh, my God, this is beautiful, gorgeous. Isn't they cool, you know? And it's like, yeah, like, some new faces. We need some new faces.

Yeah, we need some new faces at these brunches, man. And then we just say Robert Kraft invited them. Yeah, like, something like that. And just have a good time. Like, don't you like going somewhere and seeing, like, people you've never seen before. Of course. Like those are the best.

That's why I hate coming here. Yeah, exactly. See, every morning. I would have to come here and see these faces. I love you, DeMarisdell. You know that. But anybody else, these two in here, can we close that? Are you going to propose any of them?

I'm leaving that up to you. I know you won for one. Am I? She said yes. That's the score. See, this is what people don't talk about with engagement. She just has to say yes. That's true.

Like, you don't have to really get married. She just has to accept the proposal. Buy yourself some time. Yeah, that's it. Except if she says yes, job done. Score. Score for Rory.

I'm just saying if you propose to somebody and they accept, that's a win. Because we've seen people propose and get denied. I wonder if there's any, like, we've seen, like, serial monogamous who, like, just go from relationships, a relationship can never be single. We know people that have been married five. six, seven times. Is there any like serial engagers?

Like you just get engaged and then just break it off and get engaged again. But I feel like the rings expensive. It's expensive. The rings will be expensive. But maybe less than divorce.

Yeah. So that might be a healthier way to do it. Just keep getting engaged. You know, like in proposing to somebody like it's almost like you have to have a feeling

that they're going to say yes. I don't think people propose to people and feel like, yo, she might say no. That's not true. There's mad people that get engaged to, like, clear up a fuck up. That's the dumbest shit in the world. Yeah, that's a terrible strategy.

You're talking about stupid shit. Like, if you're trying to make up with somebody and that's your way of doing it, that's, you just, you swinging for the fences and nobody's even pitching. I'm serious. What, the proposals? Yeah. Even when the relationship is Rocky? When he fucked up and, oh, he proposed to me, he really doesn't. love me even though I call him fucking that stripper

in my apartment but he proposed you don't fuck strippers in your apartment oh everybody knows you take him to the double tree yeah the hourly ones because they have great cookies at the double tree they do have great cookies turn down your room at night leave a warm cookie yeah stripper can leave with dessert or disease

which of giving a stripper a disease is fucking nuts if you if you burn a stripper somewhere I know but I thought I thought I was born with it. Born with a disease? Yo. Some of them, I feel like, yeah.

We are. I didn't say that. Yeah, don't cancel me. And I have the antibodies for chlamydia. Why? Just don't even ask. Don't worry about it. I got to, just let it go.

I got the boosted? Yeah, I got boosted with a, what's the shit they give you when you get chlamydia? Is that shit called? Antibiotics. Clendomycin. Yeah, whatever that shit is. Who? Clintomy.

It's a. It's an antibiotic. Yes. Clendomycin? Something like that. No, it's been around forever. It's not morphine. What's the other shit?

You're talking about that's for God arena. Yo, give it somebody morphine, thank you. I'm thinking all the shit like from World War II. I don't know. Morphine is crazy. Yo, give it somebody morphine because they have chlamydia. I'm sorry. Do you know how much it burns?

I could have used some fucking morphine. Fam. Morphine? I called my mother in tears. It burned so much. I wanted some morphine. Oh, you had that. That means you was in there going. You must have had a week in a fucking.

No. Nasty pussy. I know who I was fucking one person at the time and I thought she was an angel. She turned out to be the hot devil. Burnt your little ass. It was rough, bro. It was real bad. Yo, getting burnt by a girl, you think it's an angel.

Still friends to this day. Love her to death. She still denies that she gave it to me. To this day. She can't deny that, man. To this day. I'm still close friends. That's my people.

How do you deny that you got you burnt somebody? She was iller than me. When I said it, she was like, well, you're fucking somebody else. I was like, no, I'm only fucking you, I promise. She flipped the shit on me immediately, but I knew the truth. I knew I was only fucking her. Blaming each other for burning each other is great. So she thought that you burned her?

That has to be what she was saying. I know for a fact she definitely went to the hospital and definitely came back positive. But she lied. She was like, oh, I don't have it. I'm like, I have it. and I only stuck my dick in you. Well, Warren, maybe it flared up. Like, you could have been had it, and then it flared up.

Clemitty don't flare up. Yeah, sometimes on rainy days, my chlamydia starts acting up. Yo, I'm just thinking about standing in a room blaming each other for burning each other. It's fucking hilarious, bro. Nah, I'm only fucking you. I ain't got it. Look what you mean.

You ain't got it. I got it, and I'm only fucking you. So you got it. And like this was, this was, what, 2009, 2008 or something? So this was your college years. You couldn't like screenshot the test results on the phone or the computer or whatever. So I'm like, oh, bring that paperwork. Let me see if you really don't have it.

Word. Oh, my God. That's when you was in college going nasty, nasty time. Yeah, I think I was fresh. It was the summertime, though. It definitely was summertime. Hot in your drawers, too. Summertime in Norke.

Is it in a pissing oatmeal. I don't know. Or East Orange. What the fuck, Mom? I'm just saying. He said it was burning burning. It was that. That means, you know what that means?

She had it for a while. That shit was baking. That means she had it. Ooh, she was running around. You know what it was? She probably was mad. Somebody gave it to her and was like, you know what? I mean, that's when I stopped using condoms at that point.

Because it was like, all right, if I'm going to get burnt, I might as well just get burnt raw. Wait, you got burnt through a condom? I think so. I can't really remember him. Hey, you're not getting that off. I'm not letting you get that off. You did not get burnt through no condom, bro.

I think I did, though. Stop. Stop. We not doing that. We not doing that. So at that time when I was fucking her, she was the only person I was fucking. So we did the condom thing sometimes and the raw thing sometimes. But I think she burnt you when you didn't have a condo. She's not burned it through no rubble, bro.

You have so much confidence in condoms. It's unbelievable. Bro, I had never been burnt. And I never had a, I never had a chick pregnant. So. Well, that's because you're corny. Because I never have two. Look why niggas is corny.

Are you corny? I'm just saying it works. For me, it works, bro. I never had COVID. Weed works. I smoke. They said it works. They said it helps.

Listen, man. You never had COVID. You never had an STD. You never had a pregnancy scare. You live a terrible life. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? I just, it's a simple fix.

Put a fucking condomore. It's that simple. I don't know why y'all making it seem like I'm some unicorn, but I just put a condomore. You have, you've had sex in the Bronx. You can hear what? I'm not jacking that. That's another one. I'm not jacking that.

Niggas be like, yo, she gave me, she burnt me from giving me head. I'm not jack. That can't happen. Because niggas be going raw. Niggas be going raw and don't want to say they'd be going raw in the chick that they know they shouldn't be going wrong. That's the bottom of my mind. I have admitted it every time. No, I'm, you don't give a fuck.

But most dudes, I give a fuck. They don't want to say when it's like, yo, you hit that rule. They don't want to say that. How old is I supposed to hit it? What you? God, man. What are you talking about? Put a fucking condomor.

Gas prices is crazy right now. What? I don't know. Listen, man. Can we get a cop? I'm not rocking with you getting burnt from getting head. She got committee in the mouth? I'm not saying it's not possible.

A tongue was burning? That's what I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's not possible. But come on, though. Like a lot of dudes, y'all, we got to just be honest with each other. Dudes don't want to say when they just don't be wearing a condom fucking these girls. Or loving these girls. Madly I love.

Being madly in love with the rat is crazy. Then there. It hurts. It burns. It stings. Stings. It stings. She was not that, okay?

I'm talking about another girl. She was a rat. No, she was a rat. He just said that's still his friend. Okay. She was the rat. She may be a reformed rat. Now she may be a mouse.

I don't know. Why does she have to be a rat just because she caught an STD? You're STD shaming. I'm not STD shaming. I'm saying this is. I'm saying this was college. She's running around with a hot pussy You know a lot of fucking is going on

She's running around with a hot pussy Yeah, you know, you know college Everybody fucking humping like rabbits You know how that shit is She wasn't even in college though Oh She was just a North broad So then he went

See what I'm saying? So now he found a straggler That was walking by campus She didn't even go there She was just walking by She was a very successful woman now He gets deeper and deeper All right man

Whoever your friend is It's just jokes I don't want to STD shame anybody, but that's just hilarious. She'd be doing, you know how they put ads on Instagram now? She'd be popping up my algorithms because she's like, there's like some model shit for someone, one of them, clothing brands that IG chicks wear. I just open my phone and I just get reminded of chlamydia

every time I go on Instagram. Like get away from my algorithms. You never forgave her for that, for Bernie? Yeah, I think I did. You had sex with her after that? I did, yes. This white boy is crazy. We both got chlamydia.

I can't fuck anyone else. This white boy is sick. Yo, for girl burn me, we are never speaking again in life. Why? Oh, my God. You burn me? It guys me fucking crazy. Yo, a girl burn, you, call.

Girl burning, you still, you still like, you're going back again? I didn't know, right? I didn't know, right? I don't know, right? Huh? No, not a random. I'm too. No, if you know her and she burns you, she's going to hit it again after that?

I don't even with a condom. He's lying. He's going back. Once she get the antibiotics, now I know for sure she's cleaning like a go raw. We both got to. You got the bodics. I think your views on life are like very, like you see through rose colored glasses. No, I see through.

That's deep. I don't know what that means, but it sounded good. Just because a girl gets an STD doesn't make her dirty, doesn't make her a whore, it doesn't mean any of that. What does it mean? You've definitely slept with a woman that has had an STD before. Sure, yeah, but a condom, yeah, for sure. Probably. A lot of people don't, you have to be careful.

A lot of people don't know that they have STD. But see, you wear a condom because. Oh, I knew. You wear condoms. I fucking knew. But guys... I was in that bathroom. All right, I'm done, man.

I can't do this. I can't do this with y'all. I was doing... I was dancing when I was pissing. Oh, you missed him a movie, you know, you know, you know, that? I was Shakira in there. Don't you had kidney stones? Don't you saw the kiss out of kidney stone?

No. No, I was just straight. It was flake flakes and that shit, too. And I was looking at toilet. That shit was bad, bro. What she gay this, nigga? What did she gay this? Listen, man, that shit.

All right. That shit was rough. We got flashback. Flakes, what he had? Pissing flakes. It was snowing? I walked. After I left the hospital, I went to my man's crib in Concourse Village.

Look where you go after you leave. I see how you got burned. Look where you hanging out at Concourse Village. All right, go ahead. I walked into his crib, him and his cousin, just start going. I said, what are y'all doing? He said, we clapping. You got to clap.

That's why you can't tell niggins shit like that because they're going to make fun this shit like. I went to like confide with them. Yeah, no, no, no, no. They did the right thing. That's what friends are supposed to do. Give me a round of applause when I walked in. Oh, no, you clapped up.

Part of manhood. I clapped up. Clapped me, clapped out. Standing ovation. Oh, my God. That's some sick shit. And that just kept offering me water for the next three days. I'm like, no, I don't want anything to drink.

And cranberry juice? Cremberry juice? Your car, you didn't go to last lab. I didn't see you to, uh... Me and Pete's meant Bob. I thought I would have saw you for sure in there pop locking, bro. Yeah, nah, I should have. I seen it on the marriage story.

I'm like, damn, well, I guess you missed something. Eddie, you wasn't in where you went? Edith's whispering insane for me. So, guys, have you subscribed to our Patreon? Our Patreon is up, is running. First episode is out, right? Correct? Yes, first bonus episode and the first sketch.

Yeah, man, we're going to have some fun with this Patreon shit. I'm excited. We can be as silly and as fucking crazy as we want to be. Get back. on the pod as well. Back on our sketch shit. For our listeners who might not have seen the announcement, Rory and Mall now had a Patreon with three tiers.

There's a $5 tier, a $10 tier, and a $20 tier. And you'll be getting, for the $20 tier, you get everything. You get the two bonus episodes a month and you get a sketch. And you're also invited into the new Rory and Mall. Get your shit off, Dee. The new Rory and Mall close friends. So I'll be posting, you know, just little things that are in our close friends. for our page that our friends are in,

I'll be posting that on the Patreon. So you'll see Rory saying some nasty shit like he was at Last Lap. I'll be on the Discord. I'll be on the cord going crazy. On the Discord, yep. Here's a Discord, yes. It's going to be fun.

I'll even get more on the cord. Yeah, I like Discord. I like Discord. I like Discord. And I like Redd. I have fun on the Reddit, the Q&A. Yeah, they was cool.

The ones that like and hate us. I appreciate all the media. I thought I was going to get more hate mail, but it was pretty cool. I mean, I had some hate in there, but I like the hate too. Because once you have a conversation with somebody that said some hateful shit to you online, you realize at the end of it, they'd be like, oh, I like him.

He's a cool guy. That's usually how it goes. Yeah, it's like, fam, you don't even know why you don't like me. You just want to say crazy shit over the internet. Well, I was just kidding, man. I was just kidding. I was just trying to get reaction. Yeah, it's all good.

But, yes. And thank you to everyone that has subscribed so far to the Patreon. We appreciate you. And yeah, man, we got some fucking fun with this shit. And the link to the Patreon for those of you who have not signed up yet, it will be in the description box of all the stream and stuff. services as well as YouTube. Look at Demaris doing her job.

Such a great job Demarish is doing. I think I might give you a raise. $50. Don't worry about it. It adds up, small things. If you want to smack them, I won't say anything. Why? You just want a clean clocking.

Let's give her raise, man. Let's give Demaris a raise. I love DeMaris. She don't come right beside your noggin. I'm going to hit them where it hurt. Left in pocket. See? I got all passwords and all the colds.

I ain't worried about shit. And the card. I get myself a raise. The fuck. Got the exit strategy ready? Oh, bad. What else happened? Any music coming out?

Any music? I said music. I can't talk to either. Any music coming out? I would like to ask you guys, who do you think is the next superstar in R&B? Who do you think has the crown coming to them? The crown coming to them.

Don't tell me who has the crown coming to them. Define superstar. Here we go. Yeah, superstar of R&B? Damn. I don't know, man, because with R&B now is so, it's just different. Diverse. There's so many artists.

There's so much. You know what I would like to see an R&B come back? I would like to see, like, the boy man come back. Why aren't we talking about that? I believe we did. With Pink or something. Off mic, we were saying. I would like to see the boy bands come back.

I would like to see somebody put together, not puff. I was going to say we could be making the band five. I would like to see somebody put together a group of guys that can really sing and really dance. And I would like to see that. I think that R&B needs a boy, a male group. I don't have that anymore. I can see you taking that role. Putting together a male group.

Yeah. That could be a good Patreon episode. Do audition? That would be crazy. But I think I could do it, though. I don't want to just limit it to like New York though. Like, you know, especially with the internet now, you have. to so many different artists across the world.

I think that would be dope though. I don't know why the industry doesn't do more that. Why is there no male groups anymore or even female groups? Groups are tough. Why would I be in a group when I got to deal with other people and split my money? Well, because there's more money to make now, right? So I mean, everyone's making more money because there's more money to make. There's different ways to make money now around music.

But I just think that just aesthetically sound, playing with melodies and, you know, dance, in choreography. I just think that always looks good on stage. When the last time you saw a male artist

dance? Shit, when's the last time you seen a female artist dance outside of clothes? Carl. I just seen

Carl dance at SOBs. Carl's not a female artist but okay. She said male first. Oh, okay. There's a lot of female artists

that dance. Who? Who doesn't? What's her name? Tiana. Tiana Taylor, for sure. Her live shows.

Normani. Normani? Dan she paints and thongs. Normani is a pop artist. He's about Arndhires. Yeah, but you know, they skewed at. She can sing art. She's a pop artist.

The only reason why she would ever be labeled as R&B is because people try to put all our black pop artists as R&B artists because they don't want to share the pop awards. Well, Normani can sing. So if you give her a ballot, I'm pretty sure she can kill that shit. It's like, those are pop artist, pop rap artist, and they keep trying to make her R&B. So you're talking about R&B.

I'm talking about the singers. So you're Tien. Normani could on this album. We don't know that. She might get into R&B bag. She's been cheering. I like Nomani a lot. Yeah, she's dope.

I think she's, uh, Shinsia. Would she be R&B? Oh, they're going to make her pop as well. She's going to be Caribbean pop. Caribbean pop is a thing? Yeah, for sure. That's a genre. You never heard Drake?

I'm not going to let you do that to Drake. That's my nigga. You're not going to call Drake a Caribbean pop artist. Like, we're not doing it. We're not calling Drake a Caribbean pop artist. not on my platform. I can't do that. I can't allow that. Caribbean pop is crazy to call a Caribbean pop artist. He literally said

pop on your bumper, sit upon this on a pop song. That's one record, bro. Like, we're not doing that. He said what? Said sit upon this. I'll be forgetting where we're hanging out in the West Indian neighborhoods, man. Of course, man. Sit pond this. You know, tell her the trick to sit pond this.

Yeah, what are you doing? What you're doing what? Sit ponder this. See, Maul, you're supposed to bad, actually. I grew up uptown around nothing but West Indian, Dominican. People think I'm Dominican when I go uptown. What? I walk in the store.

I don't know what you're saying, man. Aye, poppy. They don't say, I ain't poppy. I don't say aye poppy as soon as I walk in the store. Yo, what's wrong with DeMaris? You think they just yell, Ie poppy when I walk in the store? Maybe. Maybe you got it like that. No, I don't have it like that.

I promise you, I do not have it like that. But, yeah, we need some. We need some more groups in R&B, man. We need a male group and a female group. R&B, not pop, straight R&B. We need that. I don't see it. One Direction?

All right. Are they still together? But the groups, they never, they usually just pick one person, do two albums, and then the other person go solo. Like, where are the rest of the pussycat dolls? I take that back.

I follow one of them on Instagram. You do? She has a very cute daughter. That's why you follow her? No, she was a mutual friend. I forgot. It was like early Instagram days. I actually didn't even realize she was in the Pussycat Dolls

till like three years into the follow. I was like, oh, wow. She's not promoted to that. No, she's moved on. Okay. And what was the lead singer of the Pussy Cat Dolls? Nicole Scherzinger. Nicole Scherzinger.

What happened to her? She put out a couple of records solo. She had a solo stint. I think, I don't know. I believe she had married. Okay. I want to say, I could be wrong. Somebody fact checked that.

Recently, one of her songs with, remember that song she did with Diddy? It went like viral. Like the TikTok kids are like discovering old songs that like came out when we were in like middle school and like making them hits and making them chart again. It's so fucking. And doing dances to them. It's so fucking weird. I'm sure the DSPs are happy about that. I'm sure whoever owns their catalog is a static.

Exactly. Yeah, she, I don't know. Where's Fergie at? Fergie's another one I think that. After the national anthem was over for. They canceled her after that? You think so? I hear it from the sense.

They canceled Fergie? After the National Anthem. What she did? She did it like Macy Gray? Yeah. Nobody could do it like Macy. Macy's rendition of the National Anthem is one for the record books. Nobody would ever do that.

She left Black IPs and then like, I don't know what happens her. Other than he left Black IPs. Nicole Scherzinger was like easily one of the baddest women on the planet for like six years straight. What's the, um, I forgot what? Was it Letterman? Nikki Minaj and Will I Am performing one of their records on one of those talk shows is quite possibly the funniest TV performance I've ever seen in my life. Safari dancing in the back.

Safari. That was Carl dancing. That wasn't Safari. Safari is in the background for literally... You know how long two minutes is? He is sitting like this for two minutes waiting for his time. And then he does a car move to get to the front. And then it's just Safari and a t-shirt and a fitted.

dancing with Will I am and Nikki Minaj. It's quite possibly the greatest thing I've ever seen. People don't give Safari enough credit, man. Or? For just being Safari. I mean, he's definitely played the hand he was dealt. There's some longevity, man. I can't be mad at him.

All right. That's all I was looking for. I'm not a Safari hater. No, no, no. I know you're not a Safari hater. I'm just saying, like, we don't give him enough credit. Like, yo, dude, like, he was around some, like, monumental shit. For sure.

He had a hand or something. some monumental records and some some big career moves and stuff like that. And he was able to pivot and kind of do his own thing. Even his only fan's career was he was the only fan star during the quarantine. I wasn't aware. I mean, yeah, the ladies was talking about them online and, you know. No, I don't even think he had an only fan. His nudes just leaked.

No, he had, he definitely. Him and Erica have only fans. Oh, okay. Yeah. But I remember before that, his nudes leaked, which is why we wanted him to know. Because we spoke to him and he was telling, he was alluding to how much. money he was making on OnlyFans. He was like, yo, y'all would not believe how much money I'll make it.

I would believe it. I would believe it. Yeah. You subscribe? No, I didn't, I didn't subscribe. But I've seen him by his dudes when they leave. Oh, you got the bootleg? Okay.

You don't support his family. Okay. Well, Maul was saying, if our Patreon goes to shit, he'll just put his sex tapes on there. Yeah, if it's looking like, you know what I mean? I don't want to see no condom sex. Ain't about $20 a fucking month. Yeah, if I'm paying for our Onlyfams and you fucking on there with a condom, like, Give me my $10 back.

No fucking way. Why we don't like condoms say? We know what we've had this conversation already. No, that's the thing. No, that's the thing. Like, niggas don't watch like porn with like condoms. Yeah, no. I see a porn.

He got, he wearing a condom in porn. I'm like, come on, fan. Don't disrespect. Take a risk. No, they get tested regularly doing porn. Porn stars wearing condoms is the funniest thing in the world. That's why I don't watch it because I'm like, yeah, I get tested like the day before you have to shoot this shit.

Like. And y'all all have her beat. Anyway. Is that true? Yeah. All porn stores have herpes? A good, like, I think I read a report of like 75. Yo, Jada, do all of you all of you have herpes?

Don't like 75% of the world have herpes? Fam. We just, we just, we don't. No, our numbers. I get chlamydia one time. Now I know all the percentages. Now the whole world got it. Well, fuck it.

The whole world got it anyway. I feel like the herpes stat is kind of crazy, though. I don't, 75% of the world. No, I think, but it's like one and three people. It's some crazy stat like that. Oh, so one, two, three, four. That's oral. Yeah, oral herpes.

I was talking about, uh, second. Like, I was talking about herpes too, but 50 to 80% of a U.S. adults have oral herpes, yes. 50 to 80 is a big gap. Yeah. I don't know from half to 80% to 80. Like, who's, that number is not. Globally an estimated two-thirds of the population under 50. And what about the other, the sexual herpes?

It's a lower number. It's a lot. Overall, apparently one in five people have an SDG. Have or had? have. Currently, like, at the moment. So in here. So in here, like, one of us got a STD right now.

Listen, mine was in 09, so that's on y'all now. So you don't won? No. The problem was. Yeah. I already took the antibiotics. I don't got this. It's one of y'all.

Oh, yeah. You believe in the antibiotics. Everyone got real quiet when I admitted I got burnt. I never had her. And we know you've never done anything. Yeah. I mean, listen, bro, strap up. Unless, you know, I'm fucking with you like that.

Carl, I've been on the road with you, man. Come on. Oh, you know, I know you, man. Call like, y'all, are you kidding me? My shit just stopped leaking like two days ago. Call like me. Come on, fan. Come on, you know me.

You know how I give it up. My shit just stop leaking. Eddie, you laughing. I know you had one. Nope. Look, see, Edd. Edd ain't got no STDs. Come on, look at Edith.

You know you got a test to get into the stumbling. You got a test first. Edith is doing the test. You go when you go, no, here's my COVID test. No, no, no, we're not asked for that test. Turn around. Let's see a CDMD test. Yo, testing.

STD testing people to get into a fucking bar. Yo. It's nasty as fuck. You know what kind of is one of my fears of this podcast? And I'm so happy that when I do go outside, people acknowledge how they like it and all that and it's all supportive and shit. Yeah. When I, because I do get STD tests.

I think anyone that's fucking should do that as often as they can. Absolutely. I've sat plenty of times where I've gotten like the you know like that double look and then on top of that you have like all down to my social security number on your screen right now yeah like what if I come up with some shit once up you know they're sending that shit to the blogs for sure they're sending that right to the blogs yeah it makes me nervous a little bit yeah and I just be going at any city MD like I don't even go to a primary care doctor for that be young now.

When I was going to get my COVID test, I'm like, these people are like my age. They look young. Yeah, and they talk to you like they're young too. Like, how many people you've been fucking? No,

it's how many sexual partners, sir. And you know how they, sometimes, depending on which nurse or person you get, they'll ask you like real detailed questions and shit. And like, I don't want a fan asking me. So just men or just women,

what is it with you? What, they have to ask for now? Fam, don't ask me that if you listen to this bar. No, but not that they listen to the pod, but I think that that's just part of protocol because they don't want to just assume that you're heterosexual or, you know what I mean? I mean, I don't come off.

I think it's the straightest, so it's fine. I get it. You know. You saw the way Demaris moved her shoulders when she said that. She said, you got a little... You know, I'm a little... That's how Rory...

A little zest to him. You can't say... Can we say zest? I don't feel like we can't say zest. What's wrong with zest? You can say zest. That's not offensive. Zest is just flavor.

Yeah. It's a little seasoning on. A little seasoning on your walk. All right. The fucking zest. You know, your step's a little zesty today. I love that word, but I just thought we had to get rid of it. I thought it was offensive.

You're looking real zest fest today. Can we still say sugar in the tank? I don't think so. I think you would still say sugar in the tank. That's such an old auntie term. I love it though. I love it though. He got a little sugar in his tank.

I love that. It's a nice way to say things. Because who puts sugar in the tank? If you put sugar in your tank, you car stop. And sugar is great. Yeah. Sugar is not great, word. Sugar is terrible. Yo.

It tastes good. We are so fucking fucked up as people in society. I cannot believe Moss at sugar in the tank. He is such an old. Yo, that was the shit, though. And I know, that boy got a little sugar in his tank. I'm like, what did that mean? Like, I want some sugar in my tank.

It means, you know, when you're a kid, you hit an adult saying name. Like, I want some sugar. Like, nah, you don't want that type of sugar. It means she was playing ball. He was jumping rope. That's what it means. He's a little too good at double dutch. I feel like we can't say this.

I don't know, man. I think we walk in the line. Like, I don't think we can say that. All right, yeah. I was play a ball. He was jumping rope. Listen, jumping rope was great. Great workout.

Great cardio. For sure. Maybe it'll be a boxer. Maybe. Maybe that's what he was trying to be a boxer. Yeah, what's some of the things that your mom or dad used to tell you, like, when like, a ass whoop one was on the way? They got quiet.

That's scary. I know what time it was there. When they got quiet, it was like, all right, it's about to go down. See, that's the difference in our culture and your culture. Well, no, there's yelling. And then when the yelling subsides. But what's somebody yelling? Like, what are some of the things that are being said?

Specific to whatever I did wrong. And then I'm dumb. See, my mom's favorite thing was, get over here before I kill you. Damn, ma'am. I'm still here, though, so I got over there. I went. Oh, I went, Rory. But I got to go for you to kill me.

Yeah, yeah, no. Talk about some mental gymnastics there. Wait, hold on. If I go with it, but if I leave, you can't kill me. Get over here before I kill you. Every black mother has said that at one point. Get over here before I kill you. Just think about that.

See, my mother was like, that mother was the purse your lips and say, get chose. Oh, no, that was part of it. Get over here before I kill you. And everything was right through the teeth. That's because you was fucking singing Cameron sucking or not in the backseat.

Yeah. You deserved it. You definitely deserved that. Sing a suck it or not. I was actually a very good kid. I mean, I could tell. I could tell you a good kid. I don't know if that's true.

When did you start becoming a bad kid? I never was a bad kid. Shit. I swear to God, I was like a role model child. Like I was a nerd. I read it. And then what happened? Nerds are bad, though.

Wow. I did sneaky shit when I was, when I got to like high school and shit. Like I was sneaky. But my grades were always good. I was always well-behaved. That's what kids have behind. When you got good grades, you can get away with anything. I can get away with anything.

My grades are good. That's really the key to, like, childhood. Like, just do good in school. Yeah. You do good in school, pass all your classes. You can get away with almost anything. I got away with, I remember one time I was in high school, and I came to third block.

I skipped the first three blocks. I came there by like third, fourth block, and I had a hickie on my neck. I was like 16 and 17. And my teacher called my mother. You got a hickie in between classes? No, I never. I was doing shit I had no business doing the morning time.

I was going to say this guy is a fucking animal. How you get a hickey in three minutes? Making out with a guy in the morning time, right? I skipped my first three blocks. Brush your, both you brush your teeth first, I hope, in the morning. Making out the morning is kind of nice. It's fucking crazy. But we were in high school.

We, like, got dressed, like, we were going to school and just didn't go to school. But the teacher called my mother. Did I just set it up, like, the night before on the phone? Teacher called my mom and told her I had a hicky on my neck and I came to school late. all that just to make out I know right dumb ass

making out I told her I got hit I like to make a ball because I bruise easily it was what was it May you got that all

she believed that no my mother didn't believe it but my father wanted to believe it so he just told her to read it right yeah because fathers never want to believe my daughter's letting some dirty guys suck on her neck

what if he was all kids are dirty what if he was a really nice guy yeah he wasn't a belly yeah I forgot because if you if you know how to give girls hickeys

That means you've been through a few necks. Hickeys are weird. Hickies are stupid. What is the point? You look like you're prone to Hickies. You could do this to my neck and it'll show up. So, yeah. Nothing about Hickies was even cool to me.

Hickies was always stupid. They don't feel good. They hurt. Hickies was always stupid to me. And then I always felt like because they did hurt, but I didn't want to sound pussy. So like I'd let her keep biting and nibbling at my neck. Like, can you stop? Roy was laying down.

She was biting on his neck. His toes and his socks like. this. But not in a good way. He ain't want to tell her to stop. How do you think I developed this, this shit? You got ballet this is PTSD from Hickees. Now you got ballet toes because he was getting Hickees. Ma, you look like he used to give Hickey.

He looked like he still do. No, I was never that guy. I was never that guy. Yeah, right. I'll keep going. I don't like, I was never the Hickey Giver. I'm not going to suck on your neck and you. You see me, yeah, you too cool to suck on it back. I suck on. I was, I like tities, man. When I was, I was, I was salty neck? Of course. That's not.

That's why I stopped. So, yes. I think the first time I started, like, licking on the girl's neck, I think it was like we was outside running around. You know, you're young and dirty. You know how that kids. You got to get in there when you can because once it's time to go home, that's it. Yeah.

We was taught sexual soul at a really good thing. Playing house, playing hide and go get. Because we was horny. Yeah. Seventh Heaven. Seventh Heaven is legend. I want to play adult seven heaven. Like going to closet with a girl for like seven minutes.

I mean, just fly, just go to her. resort. That's what happens. That's the adult version of that. I'm talking about like right now, give each other to look and then we go in this little cubbyhole right here. I feel like you go to stumble and we can definitely do a seventh heaven. I'm not doing no seven heaven with nobody in the stumble in. I'm sorry. You want to play spin the bottle? No. Buy bottles and spin them? No. You used to get mad and spend the bottle if the girl you like spun a bottle and shed the kiss your man. I still hold resentment to this day. Yo, it's kids. I'm resenting the fates. Yo, we set ourselves up for trauma as kids. Like look at the games

you play. You're going to sit in the circle with your home boys and girls y'all like and spin a bottle and somebody got to kiss somebody. And then when she spin the bottle and it land on your man's and she gives a little smirk like she happy. But what about when it landed between you and your man? Like who takes it?

Because you know that was a thing like, nah, it's on me. Depends who the girl was. Yeah, that's exactly. Smart man. Depends who the girl is. I don't want to kiss her. You got that fan. Take that one. Take that one. These days you can play games like that. No, they're fucking. They're sending They're sending nudes at 13.

Yeah, these kids now, they're fucking. They're straight. They don't even know what seventh heaven is no more. That was our fucking, like kissing, you know, grab a titty, finger bang a little bit. To us, that was a successful night. We was like, oh my God, I just had sex. Like, now? No, they're going all the way at 12 years old.

Like, they're going all the way. It's crazy. I'm becoming my parents in that regard. Absolutely. I see kids. These little fast-ass, this new generation. I'm not so fast-ass kids. Yeah.

But it's different Because like I've talked to My younger cousins People have having threesomes in high school I'm like wait Hold on How is that in high school?

Yeah In the high school Not not there in high school Then you're a fucking loser But having a threesome In school? That's insane In the school is crazy

You know what fuck in your high school? Oh you went to all boys Right? Yeah I hope you didn't Not that I care about your preference I just know you have a girlfriend and she may be.

We can't say that. We can't say that. We can't, we cannot say that. We have to clear that. We have to cut that out. Well, I hope you did. Because Cardonez's Catholic school, I just didn't, you know. Yeah, I know. I know. I know.

Oh, man. Is hip-hop and music media still a male-dominated arena or are women moving to the forefront? Who asks this question? Is this you, DeMaris? Wait, that's not, that's in our notes? I swear to God, is hip-hop and music media is still a male-dominated? dominated arena or are women moving to the forefront. That wasn't so supposed to be.

To ask that question, unfortunately, it is still male-dominated. But a lot of female artists... I'm not talking about the media game. Damaris is leading the charge. I am not leading a fucking... Is hip-hop and music media still a male-dominated? Oh, yeah, it's still male-dominated. Yeah, it is.

Now I understand the question, the media part. Okay. Yeah, I think so. Obviously, the artist is, of course. Yeah, I think it's still a male domic. I think that there's a percentage though, but I feel like going to Angie was the number one thing ever. Oh, of course. You had to go sit down with Angie Martinez.

Percentage, yes, but I think Angie was the number one person you would want to go sit and talk to. Yeah, well, because of her, obviously her legendary career in radio, she's one of the voices and one of the people that, you know, if you're an aspiring artist, you definitely. I definitely want to sit down at some point, especially if you're a hip hop artist, you want to sit down and talk to Angie Martinez if you come to New York City. Or if you were just robbed at your building. Yeah. That's a safari call back. Yeah. You definitely want to-

In the business, we call that a callback. In the business. You hear it, dude. In the biz, we call that a call-bush. In the business, we call that a callback. Yeah, it definitely is still a male-dominated arena for sure. I feel like in a lot of, and when I say- And I like women that know about hip-hop.

When women can sit down and have a real in-depth conversation about hip hop and music, I think that that's like super fly. But I think a lot of women are running a lot of these artists. And that's what I meant by that too. They're running them? Like not running in a bad way. I mean, like as far as managers, you're seeing a lot of more women managers. Well, because women know how to get shit done.

Women are very organized. Women know how to, you know, keep things together. Not saying that men can't, but women just have a more natural way of organizing and keeping shit. It's also an ego thing. Men have a lot of ego, especially in the hip hop industry. So I feel like when women are having in these meetings and trying to get shit done and trying to get this person to work with this person, I think it might be a little bit easier to facilitate when you're not dealing with men's fucking egos.

I love working with women. That's my preference. Yeah, I love me. I'm the total opposite. Like, I love working with women. For me, that's my preference. I like having women that, you just know what they're doing and educated, smart. they could teach me some shit

they stay on my ass about shit I'm not I have it I don't understand when guys don't have women that they work with that to me is weird super it's a perspective you could never have and you need it in the room yeah like I just don't understand that

like how men don't want to work with women like in entertainment like at the end of the day if the women are pleased the men are going to follow absolutely even even down to like

what we see with female rappers like I love Cardi and Megan and all of them not because they're rapping about shit that I particularly want to hear or rap along to, but it gets the women and I like when women are happy around me and they get happy when that shit come with.

So you're going to get, if you get the women, you'll get everyone else. We're going to show up if the women are there. Hire women, high black women. King Vaughn's posthumous album is released tonight, what it means to be King. The track list was released, right, DeMaris? Yeah. So far I'm seeing

there's a G-Herbo feature, 21 Savage feature 5-yo Money Baggio Yo Of course Little Dirk Polo G

A Boogie with the hoodie Dreezy Dreezy Okay Love Dreezy So there's There's some people on there Did someone

specific put it together How did this Or was this an album That Vaughn already Kind of had done I think it was a You know a bunch of music That was already done

Okay Oh I mean I hope somebody Definitely Really put it together rather than just took a bunch of songs that Vaughn was working on. But, yeah. I mean, I'm excited to hear it, despite Vaughn not being here, which sucks.

But he did make great music. Yeah, he did. I think he was one of the younger artists that was just finding his voice and his style and his pocket. And, you know, unfortunately, he was taken from us way, way too soon, as we've seen and continue to see it on culture way too often. But, yeah, what it means to be. King available now. And again, prayers to Vaughn and his family.

For sure. For sure. And I hope I hope the profits from that go directly to his family. Yeah. Absolutely. Anyone else coming out, Demers? The cool kids before shit got weird. I love that album's idol.

Yeah, I do too. So apparently it's going to be a 21-hour-long three-part album. Oh, what? I had, like, I have work to do. I have a family. three parts. I don't think they're released

in all three parts at the same time. All right, then that's fine. Okay. Well, listen, man, Chuck English to me is a fucking amazing producer, so I'm sure it's put together

in a very good way. I fuck with the cool kids. They was part of that blog era in 2009 where, you know, even though they both had great careers after that,

I thought they was like on that next up wave at that time. This was the joint, Maul, you're not a hipster, so you wasn't listening to this shit. But in 2009,

we was going crazy to this. With our G-shocks on. I remember this. And I don't even think either the names are Mikey. And don't ever be around to Mikey when this came on. Definitely the backpack era. Look at this sound. This is very feralish, though.

But... I fuck with the cool guys, man. I definitely remember this. This was a joint. Yeah. Shout to Chuck English, man. All right, well, I'll try. try to get around to the 21 hours of it.

It's not coming. Yeah, but they're releasing it like the capsules. I get it. I'm not mad at that. This world. We love the word capsule now, don't we? No, you release the T-shirt. Don't tell me it's a capsule.

The bundle is over with? Is the bundles over it? Yeah. They got that out of here. I'm kind of happy they got that out of here, though. Yeah, because niggas was definitely trying to trick the decision with that. I'm not mad at it, but I'm glad they got it out of it

Because it's kind of like, let's try to get as back to normal with these record streams or sales, whatever you want to call it, as possible. Let's understand, you know, trying to find loopholes in the system, but we got to find some type of way to be like, all right, fam, just sell the album, sell the music. Let's man, go back to the old days where you have to buy 10,000 copies of your own album. Or that. You know what I mean? At least you paid for them.

Yeah, I wasn't with that bunch of shit. Remember when rappers was doing that and labels were doing that? Absolutely. Literally buying their albums. For sure. You go right to the office. They're sitting right there in the box. Movies were doing it too.

Just buying movie tickets. Really? Absolutely. I lived at one time they were telling you to check your ticket stubs to make sure that they would give you the right ticket stub for the movie because it was something around I think it may have been around the Black Panther time when Black Panther came out. And they were saying make sure you check the ticket stub because it's on pace to set a record. and, you know, they might try to stop the record from being set

and give people the tickets to the wrong show or the wrong movie. I see what you're saying. I was like, who has time to do this at the theater? Yeah, like, who the fuck is behind all of the stupid shit? Wait, hold on. We started this pod with fucking Biden saying he's, oh man, I see entrapment right in front of my face.

What happened? Dear borrower, by the way, don't call me borrower. This is from the U.S. Small Business Administration. one hour ago, dear borrower, you may be eligible for an increase for your loan amount based on the information submitted with your original SBA COVID economic injury disaster loan,

whatever that's the EDIL shit. You trying to set me up when Biden said he's going to send the goons into my house? Yeah, they're trying to throw it on you. That's somebody trying to throw it on you. You want me to buy more weight? Yeah, I got a PPP. No, I didn't get a PPP.

I got a small business loan. SBA. It's different. Oh. Yeah. Biden, forgive that shit, man. Yeah, right. might have to pay. It's the lowest interest rate ever. That's why I took it. Well, then that's not bad. Yeah. That's not bad. And I used it for to make money. So,

listen, man, they're not playing. They're coming for that money. They didn't want it back. But how are you going to put that on your speech and then email me, you want some more? No. You're fucking crazy. They only, that's why they ain't coming for you. You must be paying. No, they haven't asked for their money back yet. Really? They're debating now. Well, no, they're not sure yet if Biden's going to forgive it. Some SBA loans, They may forgive.

He ain't forgive with nothing, man. That's probably sure. He ain't forgive. No, go get the fraud shit. Maybe get your money back up and leave me the fuck alone. Listen, either way, they're coming for that money back. They want it back in full. And blood?

Biden's getting it back in blood? Pretty much. I don't understand how people think that they can get away with, like, you can't scam the government, bro. Yes, you can. You can. People do it all the time. And they get caught all the time. No, but you don't.

There's a big chance you might not get caught. No, it's not. They're not going to catch everybody at their pay-B-P loans. They're not going to catch everybody who did unemployment scams. They're not going to catch- Not everybody, but the ones that- That dragged it, sure. That's what I'm saying.

You got a little 4,000 from- No, they're not really tripping about that. But they're going to get that back, too. Don't get it twisted. 10 years from now, when you try to file taxes and think you're getting your income tax back? I'm like, yo, remember 2020 when you was going crazy? Yeah, we decided to take that back.

Well, that's because everyone wanted to go Frank Lucas with this shit and they got their PPP loan and then went on Instagram and bought a Lamborghini. Yeah, it was dragging it. Like, take the fur coat off. That type of shit to me is crazy. Like, well, I don't,

if you got a good little lick happening, stay under the radar. You can't get bitches if you don't do that, though. Somehow it's all times. You know that's what it's for. Y'allelda. Don't point your assy-ass finger at me. My finger is well moisturized,

okay, a vino. It's not their fault. It's the men's fault. Go get a check off your personality, idiot. Yeah, right. When did that start happening? That's how I mean, I got burnt in the process, but she liked me for my personality. Yeah, you gotta stop going back to you getting burnt, bro.

She liked me for me. I'm not mad at, I'm not mad at women that, like, get dudes for their money, though. Because don't leave with it. They leave with that. It's like, yo, you're showing that you're showing you got money. All right, so give me some of that. Yeah. I'm not mad at your money.

I'm not mad at women getting their money. Where we at with time? because I do want to talk about worst roommate ever, but maybe I should watch it, and then we can come back. I saw the trailer for it when I was watching part three of the Kanye doc, which came out last night. Amazing documentary.

I don't know if anybody hasn't seen it. I'm pretty sure everybody's seen it by now, but I started watching the trailer for that, and that looks really good. So each episode is a different roommate. It's not like one cohesive thing. Well, there is one that's a two-parter. My man's going crazy in Queens.

I do want you guys to watch it so we can come back and talk about it. I will say the woman in Far Rockaway, Sonia or whatever name is. I hope they started GoFummi for her because she really got fucked up. But Sonia, no working lawyer is on Craigslist looking for a room in Far Rockaway. She's a lawyer. No, he was pretending to be a working lawyer

and he was looking on Craigslist for a room in Far Rockaway. Lawyers not doing that, dog. I'm sorry. Someone unemployed may not be doing that. Yeah. Shout out to Far Rock. I got to watch that because I did see the trailer for it. And I was like, okay, this was like one of those interesting documentaries of murder and crime.

And everyone in the two-parter was like, he was just, you know, so handsome. And then they showed, like, showed him. And maybe I got a little sugar in the tank because I was like, that man is not handsome. how do all these chicks He was so handsome and convincing Like I'm like wait That's the handsome man But that's how I felt felt about

Is it Ted Bundy? Yes They were like Oh I was looking at him like I was like women were like in love with this guy Like he They had Zach Efron played him He must be handsome

Zach Efron looks a lot better than The real Ted Bundy I don't know The real Ted Bundy was not a handsome Like come on fan Like what woman was going crazy of him Or maybe I think that now because I know that he's a serial killer

and that's what I associate with a serial killer looking like because he's Ted Bundy. So maybe back then they didn't think, look at him and say he looks like a serial killer. Ted Bundy would do numbers in this era. Chicks is just going to anyone's house. Ted Bunny would go crazy right now.

That has been in the fridge. Like, he wouldn't even need to work for it. I saw a disturbing video online of a little girl that was almost abducted and some lady that was standing there like stopped it. Like, it's, It was the creepiest, like, just like most bothersome video.

Like, she was at like an ice cream stand or something. The door was open in the time. And the lady was working at the ice cream stand. And there was a little girl that was buying ice cream. So the lady, it looks like the lady knows her from the neighborhood. She probably goes the all the time. And she's talking, but it's a guy standing on the side that's on his phone. And when the lady turned around to go, you know, get the ice cream, the guy waved at the little girl.

You know, just like waved and a little girl wave back or whatever. But you could tell that the woman knew something wasn't sketchy. Like it was a car park right there. The door that was on the side of the sidewalk was open, the rear door was open. And the guy was standing outside on the phone. And there was another dude in the driver's seat. And the woman starts like really locking in on the guy, like looking at them, looking at and paying attention.

So then when a girl leaves to start walking, I guess, to go home, the guy kind of positions itself at like a pole near the door of the car. He's on the cell phone, whatever. So the girl's, like, little girl's walking, and she could see the setup coming. Like, soon as she gets to the side of the door that's open, this dude is going to push this girl in the car. And then somebody already in the driver's seat and they're just going to peel off. Yeah.

So the lady came from around the ice cream stand and, like, literally, like, like a quick walk, got to the little girl and just kind of, like, pushed her forward and started walking with her up the street. And then the dude, like, just closed the car, door, got in the car and drove off. Like, it was like, because you saw in that moment, this is how shit happens. Like, these are how kids are abducted. And the fact that this lady was so sharp and was like so observant and saw the whole play before it happened was just like, damn, like, because I don't, most people would have missed

that. Because it literally didn't seem like, I didn't, I didn't see the play, I had to watch the video again. Like, oh, okay, like, but just watching it at first, I'm like, how does she even notice that? But then you see the dude on the phone and he keeps looking at the girl. and he's acting like he's talking. And this is the car, why is this back door just open? Like, and I was just like, damn, man, it's some scary shit.

Like, it was some scary, scary shit to know that. If that lady didn't catch that and just turned around to go back in the store, like, that little girl would be like that's a while. What they're doing now with the car services, like, you know, the apps that we do, like, you get in the car and they'll drive for like a block and, like, stop and a white vienna pull up on the side of you. like a white vying a pull up on the side of you like a van is following the Uber and they'll stop and block you in people are fucking sick it's so fucking scary bury those motherfuckers under the jail yeah those type of dudes like I said I you know do you pray on women and children like I think that you should it should be severe severe penalties for that yeah that you should have for money and it's all for money that's sick yeah it was some scary shit watching that shit

so yeah be careful man just be observing even if you're if, you know, a kid is not yours. Just be observant. Like, I think it's our job to protect, you know, kids especially, but each other as well. Like, if you see funny shit and shit doesn't seem right, like, you know, watch for these kids because it's some sick fuckers out here, man.

That's where I fall. I think prison reform on the other side, I fall on the fucking right-wing side. There should be life sentences, not just for murder. Oh, I know I'm with that. Like, lock these motherfuckers up forever. You're not going to get reformed. I don't want you back on the street.

I've said it before. Stay your ass in jail. I've said it before. You've been praying on women and kids. Stay in jail forever. I got a bit of a lashback because I said that if a man is convicted of rape or pedophilia, he should be killed. And then people are like, oh, but you don't know if he could be convicted of rape and it was wrong conviction.

I'm talking about the ones that we know without a doubt. Like you have the DNA, you have the evidence that he raped this woman or he. was molested this child. Like the ones that are clear-cut, kill him. Kill them. Put them down. I'm all for that.

I get it. If we're going to have the death penalty, if we're going to have the death penalty for murders, have the death penalty for pedophiles and rapists. Straight up. Murder is understandable to me. I can understand how you can murder some of murder. Like, but that shit.

Yeah, but some people just murdered just because they want to steal $100. Like we just saw the fucking, the fucking maniac that killed this young girl a couple months ago at Burger King. shot her for $100 at Burger King. But crimes of passion don't count as murder, right? Those are more manslaughter. No, no, I still murder one. I don't give a fuck if he was passionate.

Yeah. I don't care if you watch the Kanye doc and felt inspired. You murder that person. You get into a heated argument right now and I bash you in the hell with this mic. That's not murder. It wasn't premeditated. It wouldn't be murder one. It could be murdered two, three, whatever.

It could be second degree murder. But, yeah, probably not first degree. But I know what Demaris is saying as far as, you could make sense in some cases of people killing people. Not that it's right, but you can make sense that that would happen. As far as rape or praying on children or anything, you're not going to make any sense of that ever. It was just some brothers that killed their stepfather

because they found out he was molesting their little sister. I think we saw that. It was like maybe a month ago as well. And I was like, let them freedom. If they caught their stepfather molesting their sister, kill them. And that's where, like... It's supposed to happen.

You're supposed to kill him. And with those crimes, too, it's like, we know our jail systems are not actually correctional facilities. They're not correcting any of these people. So you could give a rapist 25 years. He don't get out. He's not going to... Glad I was reformed in there.

Yeah, I learned my lesson. No, you didn't. But yeah, be careful because that video was definitely like, damn, man. And, like, this little girl would have been in that car and family would never would have probably saw her again. Like, it's some scary times. But that's also kind of what... outside of the obvious

with gentrification and cities changing like the neighborhood is kind of dead now as far as like everybody knowing everybody and everyone knowing each other's kids and like looking out

and looking at shit they're like oh that's not right I've been in this neighborhood forever that's not right that's kind of gone in so many places I mean there's still some but that shit is extinct

so it's super unsafe to just have your kids chilling because you don't know nobody in your own neighborhood People don't speak to each other no more. People don't have those neighborly bonds anymore. Everybody is, you know, in their own worlds now, their own little bubbles.

And, you know, certain areas, certain areas still have that of neighborhood and, you know, you go to your neighbor's house for cookouts in the backyard, watch the games and stuff like that. But for the most part, people are more, these days are more kept to themselves and to their families in their own little spaces. But if you're in a neighborhood, you should definitely make sure that, you know, you know,

your neighbors and know the neighbors, the families and, you know, all the kids know each other. And the adults, watch out for the kids on the block. Like, you need that because, again, you have things like that, you know, that video where people infiltrate these neighborhoods and pray on these little kids and, you know, abduct the kid and you never see them again. Everybody's fucked up and distraught about it. But yeah, man, prayers to anybody that, you know, has ever dealt with that. Luckily, I've never dealt with, like, a family member of being abducted or kid

that. You know what I mean? But families deal with that. It's a real thing where, you know, kids go missing every day. And some of them, most of them are never seen again. So protect the kids, man. Yeah. I don't want to end on a somber note.

Anything funny happened? Yeah, no, that was just something I watched and that shit. Because I think that was the first time I've ever seen that where it was stopped. Or it was like it could have happened if this woman, you know what I mean? Like just seeing that was like, yo, that's how it happens? Like I said, I had to watch it again to see and see. I was like, oh, the door's open. He was going to push in the door.

But yeah, um. Slaughterhouse. Mm-hmm. We have some friends in that group. Mm-hmm. What do you think? I don't even want to just try to make this sound political or anything. It's interesting.

It's interesting. And we both have ties to all four of them. Yeah, the group. It's interesting. You know, knowing some. behind the scene things. I don't think, I mean, at this point, it's over with it. I don't think that it's something that people really,

not in a disrespectful way, but people aren't really checking for it. They don't really care about it as much as they did at one point, I don't think. I think that people recognized that at the time the group was a very good group, some really good MCs. but I think that time has too much time has passed and I think that with you know everything is a right now or what have you done for me lately type of culture

but Slaughterhouse definitely still has that core fan base that I don't think will ever leave and that does I think I think it's a small group I think their core's relatively big core is kind of like moved on I don't think they even are thinking about the group being together and putting out music I don't I think they've given up on that Well, okay, I can see that point of view, but I think if two of them are going out to make an album

called the Rise and Fall Slaughter House, all of the Slaughterhouse fan base is going to care and run to it. I'm talking about the group collectively. Okay. That I think people, the fan base has moved on from the idea. From the idea. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. That's what I mean.

But as far as what Crook and Joella doing, I think that definitely the fan base is going to listen to it and they're going to see, you know, what they produce and what they put out. I think obviously you have, you know, two out of the four MCs that are really talented. They put out a good record. Yeah, I liked the record. Yeah, I didn't hear anything outside of that song.

So I don't know what else was to come or what else is happening. They put out a track list. Oh, they did. Okay, I didn't see the track list. But yeah, I think, listen, man, you know, life goes on. I see both sides. And I promise that's not a cop-out. And I'll tell you where I see both sides.

I see Joe and Royce being hurt and upset about it, and I totally get that. You're now taking the name of the album is the fall and rise of Slaughterhouse. You're using our logo. Like, yes, you need to tell me. Crook and Joe, I don't have as much right to that logo. Listen, I'm going to get there. I can see them being hurt in that regard of like, this is our thing, the four of us.

You're not going to tell 50% of the group when they're selling merch with the pig logo. I can totally see Royce and Joe being upset about that from a personal standpoint and from a business standpoint. Now, I didn't totally agree with Royce's IG caption of how he broke down the value. I think there's more value to be had now that this turmoil is happening because we live in a society where turmoil brings attention. For them to get back together and put out an album,

I think this actually adds to that story and adds to the value of people wanting them to reconnect. Now, I see Joelle and Crook's side of saying, hey, we've been trying to get this shit together for years. I have a fan base that's asking questions, and I need to eat as well. So if y'all don't want to rap no more, as Slaughterhouse, we're going to do that,

and we're going to tell the fans why. I get that perspective, but I also get the side of finding out with the rest of the world's that you're doing an album called the rise and fall of a group that were trademarked together as four equal partners. I would feel away. I would. But why would you feel away if these gentlemen exhausted all opportunities and tried to get things to work and try to get everybody back on the same page? And it seems like it wasn't, they were beating a dead horse or dead pig at this point. That's funny. No, I do get that part.

That's why it's a bit of a cop out, but I really do see both sides. Because if I'm Joelle and Crook, granted, they both been putting out solo shit and they put out an album together that was good. It's just, I don't know, like a heads up? No. It's our shit, though.

Yeah, but I think after a while you lose that, when you reach out to somebody and you're the one reaching out, you're the one extending the olive branch, You're the one trying to mend things. You're the one trying to, you know, make things work. And that's not being met with any reach back. When you decide that you're no longer extending the olive branch

and you're going to go do what you want to do and do your own thing, I don't think that it's fair to say, oh, you could have given this person a heads up. I was trying to mend this thing and make this thing work for years. And it wasn't being reciprocated. No energy was given back or the energy that was given was real like, no, I'm not doing that. I don't want to do that.

It's like, all right, so I'm not supposed to do anything for the rest of my life? No, I get that. I have just as much right to this logo, to this brand, to this fan base as anybody else in this group. So if me and another member of the group decide that we're going to go this way and pivot and do something else, then I don't think anybody can be upset about it if we are exhausted all, like, resources and trying to mend this thing and make it work. It's like, what are we supposed to do? Just not do nothing with this for the rest of our lives? No. I completely agree with you on that end. But I can also see Royce and Joe going like,

you have our name and the title of your album. You're selling merch with our logo. You're not going to tell nobody. But it's our logo too. For sure. But if you leave this podcast right now and I hop in your seat and we still call it new Rory and mall and sell t-shirts that say New Roryamall on it, you're not going to feel some type of way? We're in that exact position. And I don't. don't feel the type of word. It's a little different. I get what you're saying. Yeah, I see the connections, but I also don't,

because that's everyone in my mentions of the same. I was like, these are different situations. Different situations. You guys are in the entire brand logo, name, everything. I'll put it this way. If I'm sitting here, don't want to do Doucetepalooza ever again, and someone else is saying,

hey, let's do it, let's do it, let's get it all together. Like, come on, come on. And then you do like some kind of ducee Paloza shit with the name, I'm going to feel a fucking way. If they were trying to get you to be a part of it and you kept telling them no? Yeah, I'm going to feel away. You're crazy for that. If somebody is trying to get you to be a part of something that you started and you built,

and you're saying I'm not doing that no more. I'm speaking from a legal standpoint in that regard. I'm going to feel away. But you can't, but the thing is, if you build something with somebody, if we're building something together and I'm like, yo, I no longer want to do this shit. And you're like, oh, come on, man, let's do it. Let's do it for years. And I'm like, nah, I'm doing something else.

I'm more successful than I've ever been doing this other thing. And I'm saying like, oh, no, I don't want to do that. So you're supposed to just sit back and just like just with your thumb of your ass, not do nothing? No, just come up with your own name. Just not that brand anymore. Yeah, it's a different brand. Yeah, but I don't think that, I don't think that, you know, I could, you could be mad, though, if the person was trying to make you a part of it. They're trying to keep it together.

Legally, I feel like, yeah, I'm not doing this anymore, but this is no longer, like, brand of slaughterhouse is four. If it's just two of y'all, it is no longer slaughterhouse. Yeah, but that's why it's called the rise and fall of slaughterhouse. I understand that you're selling, you're selling merch with the slaughterhouse logo on it. You're profiting from something that we all four of us have built. Yeah, but if you don't want to be a part of it, I'm supposed to just let it die and just like leave it. You can do it.

But pay me my money for my part of the merch. And I don't know what the legal binding agreement is, between those four gentlemen. So I've literally no idea. Yeah, no, and I don't care to know. That's their business. Yeah, for sure. You know, I'm not, I just don't think that, you know, people can be mad at Joelle and Crook for wanting to continue their music careers and wanting to do stuff with a brand that they build or, you know, just use the logo. Like, I just don't think that you can be upset at that.

It's like, these gentlemen were trying for years to keep this together and make this thing work. And they decided, okay, we're not being met with a certain energy. and obviously this is not happening. So let's move forward and pivoting our careers. Listen, if anyone understands Joelle Crook in that regard, I understand jumping out the window and saying, all right, fuck it. I tried.

I'm done with this shit. I get it. But I also can see the side of feeling a way about using a name and a logo. I get it. That is the four of us as equal partners in it. I can see it. Now, as far as personal feelings,

I mean, I don't, I know all four of those gentlemen. I don't know their intricate friendships between them in that regard of, you know. There is no friendship. Well, that's clear now. It's like, you can be honest, no friendship. Those gentlemen aren't friends. Like, it is what it is, bro. Like, we got to stop acting like they're not friends.

When you do certain things to people, you show where your friendship stands. I agree there. You understand what I'm saying? So it's like, okay, we're not friends. We got it. We obviously want to do something to keep it together for the fan base and for the people that have supported us. But if that's not able to have.

and, you know, people decide to pivot and do something else. I get it using the logo and, you know, how people could kind of sort of, you know, turn their nose up at that. I understand that, but is it wrong? I don't think so. Because I had just as much to do with building this brand and making this logo what it was as anybody else. Yeah. So that's all I'm saying. I just don't feel like it's wrong in that regard.

Like, you know, they, I think Joelle and Crook exhausted all, you know, all they could. on trying to keep the situation alive and keep it going and keep it moving forward and at some point you just got to move on man you got to move on for sure

I just don't want to see me personally I don't want to see it turn into something you know too personal and something too ugly

because I can see it going there because I know the four personalities and the four egos so you know I could see it going there I hope not you know but

you know things happen And more importantly, I'm just happy that, you know, Joelle and Crook decided to do something, stand on it and do what's best for them in their careers. And what they're trying to do and what they're trying to build. Like, as a man, you got to do what you got to do for yourself and your family sometimes. For sure? You know what I get that point. I think that that's just what Joelle and Crook did. So I don't think that they were wrong.

That's my stance. I don't think they were wrong. I wish they could have worked it out and made it happen because it was a really good thing. They tried. Well, yeah, absolutely they tried. But, you know, we know. No, I'm aware of that regard. So it is what it is.

But good record, you know, salute to Joelle and Crook and everybody else involved and anybody else that has something to do with Slaughterhouse. It was a great, a great group, really four talented emcees and artists. Objectively, I hope Glasshouse someday sees the light of day. It's a fucking great album. Yeah, I don't think it will. But, you know, again, sometimes things just aren't meant to happen and things, you know, fall where they're going to fall and land where they're going to land. And, you know, it is what it is.

I actually think it puts them in a perfect position to make music again together. That's just where I disagree with Royce. I don't think the value dropped in it. I think you up the value of people wanting to hear from Slaughterhouse because now they know that there's this big ass divide. Royce said the value dropped? Well, he had made a comparison, and I'm paraphrasing on Instagram, of saying four people own a house and then two people decide to leave the house, burn it down, and then build another one at a lower value and not tell their partners that they burnt the house down. I, again, I'm not Royce. He has personal investment feelings into slaughterhouse where I don't.

I just think the value went up. I don't think the house is burnt down. I think it just added more attention to what's going on in that house. If it's been years and we can't agree on a plan of attack, do we never attack? Do we never pivot? Do we never move on? Do we never? I understand. I don't know what the conversation was between the four of them. I don't either. I don't know. I'm just asking. If you, if you're in that situation and it's been years and you can't agree on a plan of attack, I mean, Ben Simmons had to, Philadelphia had to move Ben Simmons.

right I mean it is what it is go somewhere else you might be happier there you know do what you got to do I mean at some point you just have to move on

like what are we doing like obviously it's never this is never going to happen if you can't even get communication from your partners like so let me ask you and I'm not saying this my opinion

but let me ask you this why can't you just go rap you're a great rapper go rap about some other shit I agree or address the shit on your album just don't name it the rise and fall of slowdowns

don't use the logo, just go and tell your truth on your album. I mean, yeah. Because both of those gentlemen, Juehle and Crook, are amazing rappers and make amazing music. And they put out. They've been putting out music. So, yeah, I understand that. But, you know, again, are you mad at them for that? No.

That's all I'm saying. That can't be mad. As someone that was close, I still don't know the Rise of Falls, Slaughterhouse. I'm going to listen to the album. I'm curious. Yeah, because you just, you like the emcees. You like the art, and you know that they're two of the better emcees. So it's like, yeah, I want to hear what they got to say about it.

If this is the rise and fall of it, let me hear why it rose and it fell. You know what I mean? Like, that's all I'm saying. But I don't think that you can be mad at people for trying to, you know, just go another way when things seem that it's not going to happen. Everybody has their limit. Like, it's been years of us trying to get this to work. It's not working. One of the stipulations was getting off shady.

We got off shady. Still nothing. I can totally get Joel and Crook-going, fam. I'm done with this shit. Fuck it. Like, that's all I'm saying. Everybody has their limit and the point where they reach it and just like, all right, we're done. So it is what it is.

But again, you know, salute to those gentlemen and hopefully everyone is happy in business and the life. Yeah, for sure. We'll see what happens. And hopefully, I'm not going to leak it, but I hope somebody leaks Glasshouse because it's a fucking great album. No, good album. They was wrapping their asses off. Really good project. Really good project.

Let Just Blaze do it. Just should do it. I wonder if Shady. I wonder if Shady in that. stipulation with the contract owns that music. Because you could make a case, which I've been through, if I didn't pay anyone yet via my budget, you technically don't own that music.

I'm sure Just Blaze got paid. Don't give me more. I'm sure Shady paid Just Blade. But if we're making music and I have not paid anyone from this budget, you do not own this music. Yeah, I get it. Which I've done and won. So, I wonder what that Glass House contract

is because that that music should come out someday yeah I don't think it will but it should yeah um what's the date for that and then we wrap this up March 11 March March 11th rise and falls slaughterhouse Joel Otees King Crooked I mean listen man I know these gentlemen

personally um so you know again this salute to all of them and let's hear what they got to say and like I said on drink champs when I was on there with Crooked me about Slaughterhouse. I said, though, you got to talk to those four gentlemen. One of them's right here. What the fuck you're asking me for? I don't know. Yeah, I get it.

I get it. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. Oh, we'll get the project in here with Joel and Crook have to say. We'll hear this out of the story. When do you think we'll get the rise and fall of Pete Davidson? I think we got it, right? Kanye put a video out. I think it's just the rise. I don't think Pete is falling. Listen, you know what, in all of this. whatever happened to because you're not supposed to be mad at the guy

can never be mad at the guy right so it's like I get it Kanye a lot of it is trolling a lot of it is just poking you know it's definitely trolling yeah so it's like I get it but it's like it gets to a point now with this video and him burying Pete in the video and he didn't bury him he planted him pause when you plant something you have to dig

but his head was above and he put rose seeds the rose grew from the concrete the compete yeah I get it I get it no y'all not on Kanye y'all not on Kanye and I's level

I see no you're on the same I get it I did it was it was the compit the rose grew from the compete I got it I got it

and then he snipped the roses and you know I thought reconciliation when you give someone flowers he was giving Pete his flowers got it don't give Pete his flowers while he's in the dirt

and he's the flower It just comes across a little, along with everything else you've been saying about this gentleman, it just kind of fits a different narrative like, oh, you're really trying to get him out of it. You're trying to bury him for real. Because you've been trying to do that on social media for the past, however many weeks, I'm trying to bury him in his career. He said everyone lived happily ever after except for Pete. Except for Pete. Pete didn't live. See?

So he buried it. This is what I'm saying, man. And I don't want to get too serious. but to say we all lived happily ever after except for Pete who is openly manic, depressive and like on mad medication is some really fucked up thing to say.

That's what I'm saying. This to me was like the first out of all of this shit where I was like, yeah, you might be going a little too far. He's dragging this shit. Yeah, you're going a little too far with this shit. All right, I'll say it.

It's corny as fuck. I still laugh at it, but I'm not trying to even look at this shit no more because I'm just like either y'all going to work it out or you're not. Like I said, I like the way Miguel handled his his marriage and his divorce

and his remarriage, like, did it behind scenes away from social media, just popped out with a photo like, yeah, we ain't got my wife back because that's my wife and I love him and we had to work it out. Stay off social media. You don't need the, you don't need the world involved in that type of shit. Well, Kanye is mentally ill. I think to an degree we all are. We all struggle with mental health.

No, but Kanye is literally mentally ill. We have to address that when we're addressing Kanye. This is not a regular person with all. Oh, absolutely. I know that. All right. let's go back to the documentary in the third episode. What Coody said after college dropout went out and he was working on the next one.

He was getting doing more press. He said, I'm going to become a character. And every time the camera went on, Kanye became that character. I get it. Is it a character? Granted, I do think he has some mental health problems. He's bipolar. He's certified by polar.

It definitely has Asperger type symptoms from what I've seen of someone that's been around those people for a long time. I just do think there is a character to it and he's doing it with the best character cast ever, which is the Kardashian family. Like, this is two empires of lowball entertainment coming together. Low ball entertainment. It is.

That's what that shit is. It's turn your fucking brain off entertainment, which is fine. I like that type of shit. I've watched every episode of 90s, 90s, D. It has a spot in my brain. Like, I definitely... We all need that type of shit.

That's why they're geniuses in their craft. Kanye also happens to be a genius in some substance as well. He's talented for sure. He also lives in that character world of being this person that he was way before the Kardashians. So when these two fucking empires of that meet, yeah, you might get fucking what's happening right now. When are we ever seen Kanye on South Beach that much?

This is a show, man. It's a show. He's a single man now. When he was making Donda in Atlanta, you ain't see him but inside that little jail cell. Now he's using Miami and it fuck is on every single boulevard. He's on Washington. He on Ocean. He fucking on Collins.

He fucking everywhere with his shit. He outside. This is a show. You don't think he's not calling the paparazzi of, yeah, we don't. Oh, no, that's definitely, he's definitely a show with that girl. He had wet willies. Kanye West don't go to wet willies. He was just with a other.

Julia. Yeah, what's her name? Julia Fox. He was trying to make Julia be Kim, but Julia, yeah, no. She was right doing it? He had to go find. He had to go find a real.

It was in a movie. I know, you're stupid, bro. She already did coke with him. Don't worry. This part is going on Patreon just because I like my job and I think Big might take it from me. But we got to think about the fact that Kim went from one mentally insane person

to another person, not mentally insane, but mentally unhealthy person to another one who was also mentally unhealthy. So she has some things. She needs to address it within herself. Talk about it. But both have diagnosed mental health issues. Well, that's fucked up.

But maybe she's a healer. I have diagnosed mental health issues. No one can love me now? Yeah, like maybe she's a healer. The fuck. You know, some women are healers, they feel like they can fix men and help them. She failed. I wouldn't want her healing me if she failed with the first one.

Is it her responsibility? No, it's not her responsibility to heal at all. But if you are saying, I can't be with this man anymore, because he is mentally ill, and then you go be with someone else who is known suicidal mentally ill. I have a question. Yes.

Who says Kim Kardashian is not mentally ill? Oh, listen. I literally just said, I feel like, you know, she has to address her issue. We all have mental health issues. It's different when we're having mental health issues and being mentally ill, mom, you know it. Is it?

I think to be successful in the world that Kim is the goat in, you have to have a certain mentally ill brain to do so. And I don't mean that in a insulting way at all. This is also coming from someone that is diagnosed with that.

But to be successful in that world, yes, you have to have a level of mental illness. I think in a lot of jobs and genres, whatever the fuck you want to call it, you have to be mentally ill to be the best at it. I think our greatest artists were all mentally ill. Like, to be in certain entertainment parts to succeed,

the way these people have, you have to be mentally ill. A sane person cannot do it. It's impossible. I just say we all suffer from mental. Well, some just to higher degrees, but I think in entertainment period, you have to have a level of mental illness to succeed in it. Because it's a mentally, the concept of entertainment is mentally ill. So you have to be mentally ill to be at the top of it.

I agree. I think that it definitely takes a certain level of, uh, You being able to detach yourself from certain things emotionally. Yes. In order to be super successful in entertainment or anything at that matter. Like I think to be a super successful athlete, I think that, you know, just mentally your brain doesn't have certain, it's not equipped with certain things because you've been so fixed on,

you know what I mean, like this, this is what you know. You didn't give yourself opportunity to get stronger mentally in other areas. And you could go in without mental illness and come out with it because that's the only way to be successful. To be a fucking football player, you could go in the most mentally health person on earth. You could be super stable. To be able to have the mentality at that fucking level of athletics in that violence, you have to be a mentally ill person.

Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. We all have it. We all suffer from it. I think that some of us just dive deeper into it and some of us never come out of it. You know what I mean? I think that's the difference. I think some of us have the ability to feel when we're slipping and we're like, okay, this is getting bad.

We kind of pull back a little bit. Yeah, we kind of pull back a little bit like, all right, I'm almost in too deep with this shit. Let me pull back, get back to myself, back to my roots and, you know, ground myself, center myself. Because now I'm way too indulged in this fucking world. But he's like Heath Ledger acting shit. Not every story is Jim Carrey's story where now he is from what we see a very mentally sound and in touch with himself type of person. he lost himself in that you have to be mentally ill to be that good at acting yeah you have to be there's no way no sane person can get into that character without having something fucked up

up here absolutely i agree that's what i'm saying we all have it it's just how we tap into it how far we go into our mental health and because if you have physical health issues which we've all been sick we've all you know something not maybe something too severe but you fix it you correct it same thing with mentally we all have it it's there Sometimes we get depressed, we get, you know, whatever. But then do we stay in that? How do we come out of that depression? Do we start changing our lifestyle and start changing the things that we do daily

and to get out of that depression and get out of that mental health zone where it's, you're not in a healthy environment? Sometimes people are like, nah, I want to see how far this goes. I want to stay in this depression. I want to operate in this. I want to create through this depression. That's depression. Exactly. You know what the man?

It's just like, yo, what the fuck? Like, you got to take time to get back to, you know, get back to. your happy spot in your zone of peace and just being, you know, at one and send it, man. Like you said, to be that famous, that popular, you have to be on it all the time. When you step outside, it's a thousand cameras on you, a million eyes on. The environment doesn't call for what you're talking about. I agree. And to be the best at it, you have to stay in that environment.

You got to stay in it. So, yeah, I agree. You know, but he went a little too far with the video, though. I agree. No, I thought it was corny. A little too far, but it is what it is. Still a great record, though. No, really?

I fucking love that record. That's one of my favorite records. We never talk about the music when it comes to Kanye. It's everything around it. Is that it? Is that it? Say goodbye to your listeners. Tell them you love them.

All right. So, yeah, man, I think we kind of touched on what we needed to touch on. Things were touched. Things were touched. Consensually. Consensually, we touched some things. I'm trying to be touched. All right, man.

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