New Rory & MAL - Episode 461 | Rappers Delight

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

This episode the gang (joined by Zip With The Drip) dissects Lil Yachty’s comments on classic Hip Hop, and it leads to a conversation about how rap’s trajectory changed. Charlemagne from T...he Breakfast Club gave his list of top 5 lyricist from Bad Boy’s roster, and of course the crew disagrees. They also discuss So Far Gone being the best mixtape of all time, the most disgusting thing to do for revenge, + more! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. All right, take two. Welcome back. Damaris dropped her mic on the original intro, but we are back. We all back. Happy end of the week. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:00:46 We were talking about the weather. End of the week. You guys didn't miss much after she dropped her microphone. Yeah. We are back. We are with our guy Zip on this, this lovely. Let's get to that. Friday.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Netflix, Saturday. Netflix Zip is in a joint. Netflix. Zip right there. I ain't going to lie. Zip be acting mad different when he on Netflix. That is a lot. Like,
Starting point is 00:01:05 I'm just calling it out now, Zip. He'd be waiting more serious. Everybody jumping in comics. Let Zip know me on Netflix. They don't know me on Netflix. You know what I'm saying? He acted different. Pick, I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 00:01:15 yo, you acting mad different. They don't know me on Netflix, Jet, B. They don't know me over there yet, B. Yo, so, so Zip, it's been a lot of old, old head slander going on, I think, in hip hop in the last few months. And, you know, obviously me and you are from a different,
Starting point is 00:01:31 a different era of, you know, just rap and hip hop. We came up in the 90s, right? So, uh, Rory has, first of all, we're back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk Texan data. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Let's start there. Let's start with that. But, um, so I got a little, my guy, shout out to Yadi. That's my guy. He was on our Buley Kev.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Mm-hmm. He was on Buley Kev. He was on Buley Kev. Yeah. Love his play. Um, and he always missed the good clips. Kev?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah. He'd get people lying about fucking $20 million dollar football deals and shit. Ted get the better. Turn it down to go to rap. Turn it down to be a rap. I would say. I turned it down. I never heard of my life.
Starting point is 00:02:06 The math was crazy. Like 10. 10, 5. 10, 15.5. You forget 15 million? Like, 5. 10 million. I turned it down.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Oh, man. But Yadi and his crew was up there. Shout out to Yadi. And he was talking about just the origin of rap. And back in the day, the music not being good and being weak. Specifically quoting Sugar Hill Gang. Before you go there, isn't this the second time Yadi's gotten in trouble with old head hip hop Twitter.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Didn't he do something with Ebro? He said something about Biggie or something. I remember at one point the beginning of his career. It was around the same time the Kodak shit with the freestyle thing was going on. But him and Ebro got into it
Starting point is 00:02:51 in like 2016 or something like that. And I remember it started his career as the golden child for Golden Era hip hop to hate. He's had these comments before. I'm going to my commentate now. I'm going to get you after Ramadan. I don't worry about that
Starting point is 00:03:05 I thought it was a compliment I'm gonna compliment him after Ramadan I'm gonna give him all the compliments We'll be here till the sun goes down Yeah I'm just in a different space right now But I bro we're gonna talk March 19th Don't worry about your hat Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:15 No my go ahead Oh you was talking No no no my bad Okay Alright well anyway So he Yadi made some some comments Right so specifically talking about Sugar Hill gang
Starting point is 00:03:26 Hip Hop Yeah me to the hip he said He'd be to the origin right So he's saying that that was weak Right So we know that things progress, music changes and all. Hip hop is still a very young art form, a very young culture in the grand scheme of just cultures around the world. Probably the most impactful, but definitely the youngest culture.
Starting point is 00:03:48 There might be some cultures that are being birthed now that we don't know about. Ryan, you might know about the cultures being birth now. I don't know you're 22 years old. But the origin, that's the origin of hip hop. Sugar Hill Gang. Hip hop got his name from that song, right? Yeah. So while what Yaddy is saying, like when you rhyme like that today, like if somebody was to rhyme, even though there's niggas that rhyme like that today that y'all swear is dope.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Stop. They just do it on Travis Scott beats so it's different. They do it on, they do it on, they do it on mustard beads. They do it on. And y'all, y'all think it's the greatest shit you heard in 21st. Boom, boom, ba, boom, bah. Boom, ba. Man.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Like, all of that is a hip, hop to the hip, to the hip, to the hip, hip, hop. You don't stop. but rock it to the bang bang boogie. That's all derivative of that. Boom, boom, that comes from that. So that's why to hear Yadi say that now,
Starting point is 00:04:42 it's like I understand what he's saying, right? When you, just in the air, if you was to hear somebody today say that, but you hear people kind of like borrow that style now and rap like that with that cadence and that flow and people love it.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So my thing is like, why is it spot on? You feel like he's spot on with that? Yes. The Sugar Hill gang was trash. I mean, I never liked that music. When I was a little growing up, I ain't like, like that, that rap, I didn't like it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I started liking rap when G rap and Kane and Caras, one of them Big Daddy Kane. I didn't like the early, like early rap. I paid that shit, no mind. But I kind of, I used to say the same thing. That it was trash. Yes. And then came 87, 88, 89, where you got the real rap dudes coming. Like I just said, Kane, Carerest one.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Well, if we're going to do that, he rap. Raqin was probably the first one to change the way rap sounds. The flow, the flow. He took it from the Kumo, the uptown. Yeah. 129th Street. That hard pausing and up. He stopped that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Now that's a flow. But they strong-arm rap from the whack dudes. For the dudes with the wag, no balls, in the mid-late 80s, they strong-armed it for them. And then for 15 years, you had to be nice. You had to be nice, super-liquical, you know what I'm saying? And in a party element, kind of like, It was still around a party element because you had big party and I'm saying James party and they was, but you just had to be saying something. It didn't matter what you, what kind of song you made.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It had to be some intricate lyrics and that shit. But see, the only thing with Yadi, and I understand, I respect with Yadhi. Because Yadhi is, he's a little younger than us. So I can understand. And then you said you didn't even like that as well. So I respect that. When people don't like something, it's like, cool. If you did that, that's not your thing.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Cool. I'm not going to argue that. Do you think that's his point? because you can objectively say, I don't listen to rappers delight. I don't get my car, be like, you know what I haven't hurt in a while. I'm going to throw that.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But that, I don't think, if that's his point, then cool. But I think how I interpreted why people are upset, let me not say upset, why they're critiquing his critique, is you cannot say that about the very thing that's the reason you are here. And of course it's going to evolve
Starting point is 00:06:59 at the beginning of every genre of music, typically the beginning sometimes is the worst because they're still trying to figure out what this thing is. Sugar Hill Gang was coming from an era where it was all about a party. You had a party. And then they do the breakbeat. And then the guy that was hosting the fucking party. Just say anything. Sometimes it rhymed and then it developed into to what Sugar Hill gang is. So that was, their goal was not to sound like Nas because Nas didn't exist. They were at a party. They were Studio 54, coked up, trying to have a good time. They was trying to say hip, hop.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And then it just developed when people like KRS heard it and took it a little bit more seriously. So to critique something where the point was just to party and not to be some lyrical, miracle shit. Like, until Flash, there was not even a bit of substance in it. But see, what he said, he said he was talking 90s and then he went to the 70s. And I'm saying, that 20 years means something.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I'm saying, like, that's where he messed up. Like, if I critique the critique at all, I would say you go, you're talking about dudes in the 90s and then went to the seven. That's a big difference. But if you want that he was rapping in the 70s and the 90s. He said in the 90s it was mad trash. I don't think it was mad trash in the night. It was something.
Starting point is 00:08:12 They want effects. Some that is not real rap. I mean, like, they rap. You don't like DOS effects? Bumstickety bum stickey bum, hon. I got that off. Tell me what it said. Bumstiky, bump, sticky, bong.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Right. You just heard what he said. Like, it was dudes. I told Rory this. It used to be dudes crying about, oh, they mumble rapping. They mumble rapping. and I can't understand what they're saying. So what?
Starting point is 00:08:33 You ain't understand what Doss and Fexam saying. You just heard what they said. So you just care about hearing what somebody saying. You don't really care about understanding what's being said. Califragilus, tic-tac-toe, get the oops, daisy. Now you got me crazy. Crazy with the-a-boo. Where's the baby?
Starting point is 00:08:47 So one-two. Un-Buckoo-Buckoo-M-Hu-M-Shoo. Absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing. Exactly. Right. But is that not a reflection of the era? Is that a reflection of the era?
Starting point is 00:08:57 It was little. You want me to wrap the baby? You want me to rap Baby King to you? No, Mike, my, my, another stray. Baby Kim is not a mumble rapper. I'm just saying that's the latest rap we got. But he said mumble rap. He was comparing that to mumble rap.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Oh, mumble rap. They did like, they, they, they, because the older dudes would say, oh, this mumble rap, I can't understand it. You don't care about understanding. You just want to hear it. You just want the words to be pronouns, but you don't care if you can understand those words. But there was a, no, but there was a balance there with Dasafx.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Like, Dasafx, there was other, there was a balance there. And, again, reflection of the time, I've even heard, Hove do interviews, like when him and shit, I'm blanking on a Hawaiian Sophie with Jazzo, when they were doing that fast rap shit. With the Fushniks? Yeah, like they were just trying to be as technical and rap
Starting point is 00:09:41 as fast as possible as reflection of the times. You would say Jay probably wasn't saying much at all when he was, had that flow. If Jay stuck with that flow, we would not be talking about Jay Z. No, Jay was saying, he was talking though. The flow was, the flow was kind of like, because that was the
Starting point is 00:09:57 error with like you said, DOS effects, Fush Niggins. Fush Niggins was talking, too. When I was smaller, used to tease me because my hair was peasy, marking greasy, but now I'm living larger like Georgia, yeah, like, so there's a balance. I was talking.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So it's, right, it is a balance. I just think that what Yaddy is saying, you can't, you can't disrespect the foundation. Everything is going to evolve. Like, if that's the case, we can go back to when, you know, the NBA first started
Starting point is 00:10:21 and look at these trash niggas dribbling them with one hand. If you're going to say that. I would never put none of them in my top 10 from back then, which is fine, but I wouldn't disrespected. Dispecting.
Starting point is 00:10:29 A knick is dribbling around like this and all. I'm not putting, none of y'all going in the top ten. I don't care. Bob Coosie, George Mike, and none of them. But you can't do that because it's going to come a time now. And we're probably seeing it where, you know, the shit that we grew up on is being disrespected. Rap from the 90s or the early 2000s or, you know, athletes from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Like now how they say Jordan is not the greatest and it's that in the third. They said Jordan is DeMald de Rosen now. I wanted to break the phone. But you see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? So it's going to come to a point where it's going to be our time where people are going to be, you know, 40 years from now looking back like, I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:11:08 That shit was talking about was stupid. That nigga, he ain't know what the fuck he was talking about. He was trash. That nigga, yo, that Rory album was garbage. That shit. I said that now. But I'm just saying, like, if that's the case, every generation is going to look back and say that was trash because everything is going to evolve.
Starting point is 00:11:23 To me, you can say that shit. But even to your point with sports, like, I've said countless things, times. Babe Ruth's super overrated. I don't think he could hit a fastball from a 13 year old from DR right now. But that- You bugging the fuck out. Bay Ruth taking that shit, y'all. That shit is out of it. You're right. That doesn't mean that he didn't move the game forward to get a Mickey Mantle. Like it takes time for things to develop. That doesn't mean I completely disrespect Babe Ruth, but do I think Barry Bonds is a better fucking hitter? Of course I do. It's everything had to evolve. But that doesn't mean I got a shit on Babe Ruth. All right. So today, Nause probably
Starting point is 00:11:58 rap's better than 95% of the rappers. He's been rapping for 30-something years. Maybe 98.9. He's been rapping for 30-something years. So if we're going to do that, it's like, okay, but there's still guys that are from that, that was inspired by Sugar Hill gang that can rap better than 95, 98% of the field that we have in front of us today. So, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's like you can't, I'm not saying Yadi got to love the Sugar Hill. I don't play that. I don't love the Shugger Hill. I'm not, that's not my, I'm from the 80s, but that wasn't what I was listening to. So you say he's got to watch his mouth? I'm not saying he got to watch his mouth. I'm just saying like, it's a way to be like, yo, but I don't really think that that was, like I never listened to that.
Starting point is 00:12:41 You don't got to say that was weak as something. Because that's what that's the found. You can't say the foundation is weak as hell. Nah, you got to think about it's coming from a place where they tell him. They were telling him like, yo, you can't rap. Your sound is trash. You trash. So he said, if I could go back to 2016, and he basically saying if I knew then,
Starting point is 00:12:58 what I know now But we all can say that No He was when they were telling Yadi Like yo you ain't saying Nothing when you rhyme Blah blah blah He's saying I was a kid did
Starting point is 00:13:06 I didn't know That back in the days These niggas ain't used to be saying shit Neither Or I would have a great defense for that And so it's such a complete difference Because back They were creating something like
Starting point is 00:13:16 From nothing They had no example You have 50 years of examples Of niggas rapping amazingly And you still can't put words Together well Like that's completely different They had no examples to go off
Starting point is 00:13:28 And answer to her point, too, when you're saying you love the 90s and didn't really listen to stuff from the 70s or early 80s, that's fair because I think the 90s elevated everything. I don't know if the generation after the 90s and 2000s, except for a select few, really elevated anything. Whereas every generation besides Yadis has elevated it to what a hip-hop head would say is a better level. I'm not saying that there's other people that don't think what Yadi and them did is incredible. and their subgenre of hip-hop. I'm not saying that. But to you, every single time, it's gotten better. You know why rap got simplified, bro?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Money. Nelly and 50, bro. Yeah. Once a Nelly and 50 game, bro, they had the most simplest raps out of anybody in the business and they was doing the most numbers. And so everybody said,
Starting point is 00:14:19 I'm going to say the most simplest shit I could possibly say and try to do what they did. I feel like they're the ones that, like, simple by by mid-2000 standards now that would be super lyrical Nellie is super lyrical to today's crowd
Starting point is 00:14:36 yes who said pretty boys can be wild niggas foul niggas okay carral niggas that ain't lyrical if you want to talk about it because it was different but we were young these young niggas think little yadi and people that y'all think
Starting point is 00:14:52 can't rap they like that shit no I'm not saying and I understand that. And I also give them that respect. Like, okay, if that's what I like, when I was coming up, people didn't like Snoop. People didn't like Dre. People didn't like a lot of that shit that I was listening to. And I was like, what? This is dope. Now look at what they turned into. I'm just saying when you say the foundation is weak, the foundation can't be weak as hell because look how much was built on the foundation. I mean, now I think about it. Right. Look how much hip hop came from the sugar hill gang. Look how far the culture went from that, from that moment.
Starting point is 00:15:24 From that style, from that sound. 50-something years later, it's the most impactful, influential culture, maybe art form on the planet. So the foundation of that, you can't say it's weak as hell, because if that was weak as hell, it would have collapsed.
Starting point is 00:15:41 It wouldn't have, it wouldn't have nothing would have been built upon it. I feel like it was some real shit going on back then too, though, because if you listen to everything that was like, when dude was like, um, got sent up north for eight year big. And we was like, turn stick up kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Watchin' done dead Sit up north for eight year big Right So that's no different than Matt That's Melly Mow Right So they had dudes that was really rapping It's just you had a bunch of party shit
Starting point is 00:16:04 Going on at the same time So like That's probably why I don't fall Because the foundation Of that real rap shit It was there I'm saying it was there Like they was around
Starting point is 00:16:13 But they wasn't at the forefront Just like nowadays Them real rap niggas They ain't at the forefront It's these niggas that They hip hop Just a new version of that shit But I mean no
Starting point is 00:16:22 Still lyrics There's never been a year in hip-hop where actual lyricists weren't the forefront of the entire thing. It's gotten smaller and smaller of the amount of them. But to this to this day, the big three of all this. Yeah, the dudes that sell records, you got rap all the time. So, I mean, that's why. You got to be saying something. You could sell a song without rapping, but you can't sell records without rapping.
Starting point is 00:16:42 But if you do make a good point now, I think about it. With Nelly and 50 and just that era, simplifying shit for when it got super, super, super mainstream commercial, monetizing everything. it had to be dumbed down a bit because even 50 was way more lyrical on his mixtakes before get rich dumbed it down a little bit. I think hip hop continues to evolve from the generation before. And yeah, it evolved to more simple. Yeah, for 50 to soldierable. Every single time it got lyrical, lyrical, lyrical, 90s, 2000 got simple.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And now it's super. It just evolves with the generation before it. So you do make a good point. Simplifying it in the mid-2000s did get us to where we are now to the simple vibe. That's who they grew up on. Yeah. Like, he's born in 2002. This is when 50 come out.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So the dudes, that's his age, that's the music. They think people's who's listening to. Yeah. From when he's little, they're in 50. Yeah. Ryan said he met, he knows T.I. as an actor, not as a rapper. I know T.I. as a rapper, but I'm saying I'm more familiar with him as a reality TV star. Well, you was.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Well, you must have been locked. You was probably locked up at that time. Yeah. Yeah, but Major is my man, though. I feel like Major was like, that's my little homie. Yeah. like respectfully major king demani all them i know the whole family
Starting point is 00:17:56 and i'm saying because of the reality show yeah yeah yeah you watched them grow up i didn't have that on my bingo card you were that tapped into that show yeah i'm dead ass what that was a classic reality tv show you bugging ain't was tiny friend name she had the fat ass like he was on that yeah i'm watching at the see us nothing for nothing else that's what y'all was watching under prison yes what was your favorite moment from that show
Starting point is 00:18:21 What was it all in the family? I don't know. I don't remember. A bunch of Kings and Queens. Grand hustle. Grand hustle, yeah. Okay. I'm saying probably some shit.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Major did. Major was my little man. Like, we used to like Major. Like, yo, what major is? Know I'm saying? He come to doing what he'd do. That's saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I don't see him no more. Neva. He laid it low, man. Yeah. He laid a low. He stayed away from all. He stayed away from all. He stayed away from all.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He stayed away from all that. No, he was holding the phone. When King say, all that shit. Oh, that's him? No, I don't know. Don't listen to, Roy. You say, yo, we're so a major. We're major. What other reality shows is y'all watch?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Everything that come on, everything came on E, MTV, VH1, everything, whatever was going on. Y'all being in jail watching watching Family Hustle was crazy, though. Loving hip-hop, all of that shit. Nigger, everything. That makes sense. Yeah, everything that come on them channels.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. If you want to jail and they have VH1 or MTV, like, it's time to blow this joint. Straight up. Yeah. So you think violence in prison could, we could drop those numbers if we just keep VH1 in the day room?
Starting point is 00:19:31 I don't know about now, but back then, 08, 07, 09, you got VH1 MTV. Everything was cool. Yes. Yeah. You hear that Mondami fucking put on Rikers and everyone will calm down.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Give everybody a subscription. Netflix subscription. Yes. And Rikers. Netflix. Yeah, just put a beeper. Netflix. Give everyone in Rikers.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Mamm, Doni. Netflix subscriptions for everybody and Rikers. Some more crazy hip-hop talk from, you know, the media. Oh, has, though. Oh, has? We still control the media. Mall, finally, you have the most powerful iPhone of all time. It only took an entire year.
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Starting point is 00:20:46 For full offer details, visit BoostMobil.com. But Charlemagne, he ranked as his top five bad boy lyricists. And Mace wasn't in his top five bad boy lyrics. He has Biggie, Kiss, okay, let's you do this. Biggie, the locks, and Black Rock. Solomon is my son, but Charlemagne is bugging, homie. First of all, when Mace was on Bad Boy, they were saying Kiss was like a little Mace.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I remember that. Yeah. They were saying Kiss was. his little Mace. And not only that, people forget when Big Passed, Mace kept the lights on that bad boy. He wrote all the puffy raps and his raps.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Like, Mace was a bona fide. Mega star. Mega star. I don't, like, people forget, you know, I guess because it wasn't, it was so short, it was like a short window. He did $4 million on a debut.
Starting point is 00:21:44 That was unheard of. But what Mace did, I just urge people to just go back and just really look at what Mace did on Bad Boy, go back to the albums, go back to the feet. teaches with Total and go to go look at the video Mace was a star how do you say that shi-lemy was arguing and listen I think Charleney's huge is a better lyricist than Mace bro
Starting point is 00:22:05 well it's chill I think she is super underrated but I like him she gives us right she was not saying that Mace was not a star he said he probably makes the best music outside of big on bad boy he was saying lyricist he's still bugging I want to make that very clear yeah he's bugging I don't want to misquote him in that regardless of because everyone was say that Mace put bad boy on his back. Black ball don't have one verse fucking with that shit what Mace was like, what you know about going out head west, red legs, TVs all up in the headrest.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Black Raw don't got one verse fucking with that, bro. No verse. That's when he ran it on a hit record. Even when he ran out of ammo with storm bottles, that's not better than going out of head west, red legs, TVs all up in the address, rest of peace, BR. Rest of peace, Black Raw. They gave me boxes and Sean John's shit
Starting point is 00:22:48 when I came home all that off that first. Rest and B.R. Yeah, no, but Mace is definitely top five bad boys. Mace is not doing that. And if you go back like Mace's top three because kids are the Cor and Lurter Mace like
Starting point is 00:22:58 before the first album Yeah we're not like Like mixtape Mace But I guess he's saying When he was bad boy When he was bad boy I guess that's what he's saying Bad boy lyricists
Starting point is 00:23:07 Bad boy lyricists Either way They say a classy A classy criminal Got by the genitut Dugs know me So don't get splashed for the minimal Like he was talking shit
Starting point is 00:23:20 Bro Yeah Mace was not Like come on Yeah You gotta go back and do your homework on Mace I think, I think Charlemagne, because Charlemagne, he's from the south. He's from what, North Carolina?
Starting point is 00:23:28 South Carolina. South Carolina. That's deeper south than North. You got to, you got to go. You got to go. You got to do the Yadi move. Yeah, you got to, you got to do diligence. Because Black Rob got rowing, that's really it.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Like, that's the only Black Raw we really ever really got, bro. As far as a hit record, okay. Like, like Black Raw, when was Black Raw Black Rock Black and on the show? With Black Raw. 24 hours to live? That's the only time I feel like Black Raw. went off. I think he got the best verse on that song. There's no other time that I feel like Black Rob. And Mays got over there too, can I live? It was just unfair on Can I Live?
Starting point is 00:24:06 The first time I heard that, he was only on the hook. I was on the clue tape. The first time I heard that he was only on a hook. It was a lock song and they gave it to Black Rob because he needed one of those on his album. But his verse wasn't bad. He just went up against the locks in prime form with three of the best verses they had done. Like it was unfair, but Black Rob, he got off on, can I live. Now, I don't even remember on the old show, Charlemagne called in one time when we were discussing if Harlem World was a classic. I think this is a personal thing.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I don't think Charlemagne actually believes this. Him and Mace, he's had some weird Mace hate. You think that's a classic? Harlem World? Yes. I personally do. If somebody said, no, I wouldn't. I put it on another day looking for some shit.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I was making my playlist. I think I took two songs off of it. Okay. It can't be no classic. What? I don't have a classic option You could take two What you mean?
Starting point is 00:24:55 Only two It was like Oh, I can I don't want to hear This shit no more You took two songs off Like you only You couldn't listen to those two Or the only two
Starting point is 00:25:01 You could listen to You niggas You knicks want to scrap We can scrap You knick like that You shit with him And DMX 25s
Starting point is 00:25:08 So it's probably like Three songs off an end That you could take And put them to play Do you want to get money Take what's yours Will they die for you Look
Starting point is 00:25:16 Come on looking at me The player away I'm fine I'm like It's dated I'm just It's dated feel so good what you want um cheat on you 24 hours to live i need to be watch your back i
Starting point is 00:25:28 i'm not you bugging that's a classic not classic bro that's a classic that's not class that's not i think come home with me is way better than that come home with me is way better than that hallen world album son i don't know if that's a crazy hot take come home with me is way better than that son come on age difference because i listened to harlem world later because i was i was seven when Harlem World came out. I went back and listened to it. I got Hallam World and then like a week later. I got money, power, respect.
Starting point is 00:25:57 It came out like two weeks later. Bro, I was laid up shot listening to this shit, son. I was like, yo, they couldn't tell me nothing about Mace, son. Yeah, now Harlem World was a classic. Couldn't tell me nothing about Mace. You're listening now. So you're saying it's dated now. I'm talking about then.
Starting point is 00:26:10 When that shit came out, when it dropped. Mace was a mega star, bro. That's a, he could do it. That's a classic album. That's a classic album. We're not doing that. We ain't going to win. We ain't going to win.
Starting point is 00:26:19 going to be in Harlem. That ain't on my classic list. So, all right, what's on your classic list then? Come Home with me is on my classic list. The purple tape is on my classic list. I could debate. It was written. How you could debate come home?
Starting point is 00:26:31 Holland World? If you got come home with me, I could put Allent World in there. It's not that. It's not, I love Come Home with me. I love that album. But I'm just saying it ain't, it ain't like smacking Harlem World out of here. I do. I think it does.
Starting point is 00:26:42 No way. No way. It's not smacking it out of here, but it is a fair point when you look back at I have to come home with me. I love come on with me. That album was crazy. Losing weight part two. Oh boy,
Starting point is 00:26:53 live my life. I think so. I think so. Yeah. Again, I have a different place in my heart because I was 13 when come home with me came out. So it's, I connect more. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:07 I connect with this more than I do with Harlem World just because I went back to listen to Harlem World. I mean, I heard the singles when I was a kid, but I didn't, I wasn't banging Harlem World when I was seven. but come home with me did not leave my fucking Walkman Yeah, come home with me.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It's still like valid, bro. Like, that shit is kind of timeless. It's shit on there that's timeless, bro. I think it's Cannes best album. Me too. It is. I mean, a lot of people... SD is right there, though.
Starting point is 00:27:34 A lot of people say purple A's. Cool? SDE is cool. We can't fuck with come home. Compared to come home with you is cool. Yo, no, SDE is crazy. No, compared to come home with me is cool. This is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Like, when it came out fire. The production don't come home with me. is better for sure. When it first came out, HD, fire. I've never even heard that to be the second way. It's always Purple Hays verse
Starting point is 00:27:53 come home with me. That's fire. Don't get me wrong. I've heard that, but that's your generation. That's my idea. Yeah, your generation is like,
Starting point is 00:28:00 Purple Hays. I got like three songs off of that I like. I've gotten in plenty of arguments Purple Hays versus come home with me. That's almost like the rap version of Confessions verse 8701. Okay. Is come home with me and Purple Hays.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. Yeah, Shalomey Tripping though. Mace is back to the top five bad boy lyricist. I'm not even, I don't even want that to grow late, that narrative to even start making his rounds. Without a doubt you cannot talk about bad boy
Starting point is 00:28:25 to bad boy legacy, bad boy building, anything bad boy related without Mace and without saying he was a top fuck lyricist, he's a top five he was a top five artist back to, rap artists back then. Oh for sure. He was the biggest artist. Nobody was messing with Mace when Mace came out.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Nobody, bro. That's why Jay Z shot him. Jay Z shot Mace because he was at the top of the, he was the top dog. Yeah, they were the top dog. You had to shoot the top dog. He didn't go at Nass. You didn't go out Nause. He didn't go out, nobody
Starting point is 00:28:54 else. He went at Mace because Mace was that dude, bro. It was a little more personal shit behind that. Yeah, perhaps, but still was Mace was the top dogs, huh? I don't know, for sure, definitely. I just want, I'm not saying Charlemagne's not being honest. I do think there's something personal. Because he's had this weird, weird Mace hate that
Starting point is 00:29:10 people have called out and noticed for a long time. Like, it doesn't feel like you critiquing music. It feels like you kind of hate him. I'm saying somebody said, Wendy Williams tells some story in Florida with Charlemagne and Mace or something. Somebody said Wendy Williams is big homie. You know, Wendy Williams don't like Mace and a man. She don't want to first don't say Mace with a gay rapper.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Y'all got to like, come on, put this shit in my name. Connecting the Dots. Provinces, yeah, the dots connect themselves, you know. You go. Just connect themselves. All right, top five bad boy lyricists around the room. Start with Demaris since we've been talking. Not qualified.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I wasn't in the heyday of when that was going. The heyday. See, you sound like Yadi now. Look how fast you sound like Yadi. The Hayday. That was 90 what? 94. I was born in 94.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Oh, yeah, you're out of here. Whoa. Bad boy, you know, made it all the way up until a few years ago. Like, you could throw MGK in your list. Yeah, I'm okay. That's sick. That's great. MGK is crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:05 French not on your lyric's list? Nah, nah. I love French, though. Oh, I'm not here to heal. Yeah, I'm going big, Mace. Kiss. No big kiss maize. Oh, no particular order.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Oh, no particular order. No particular. Yeah, I wasn't going to. Big Mace kiss. Big Mace kiss styles. And who else was up there? She. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:33 The locks. Yeah. Everyone's just replacing Black Rob with his. Yeah. Oh, you go Jeezy? You go Jeezy? Young Jeezy? Young Jeezy was on bad boy?
Starting point is 00:30:42 He was in the group. Boys and the Hood. Before he went solo. Boys in the hood. Yeah, but no, we're not doing. We can't do that, though. They had hit record. Yeah, we can't do that, though.
Starting point is 00:30:49 We're talking about, like, he didn't release an artist. He didn't release a solo album on Bad Boy. No. She can't release no solo album style. The Lock. No. So you're going to take the group? I'm saying, I'm saying, like, I'm just asking this GZ, like.
Starting point is 00:31:05 GZ's not a better lyricist than Sheik Loach, no. Not even close. He's not a better lyricist than Sheik Looch. He's not a better lyricist than Sheik Luge. I like Red, though. I think Red is underrated. And I think Red is low-key writing for a lot of niggas that we don't. Loon is not better than Sheik?
Starting point is 00:31:20 No. He's not. Lyrics, he's not. Lyracist. No. He's not. No. Loon got,
Starting point is 00:31:26 Lung guy, I need a girl. He got off on that. He got off on that. What are you talking about? Yeah, I need, like, lyrics is no. Fox brown nigga. Crone down 666. Bubbly, like she ain't top dog?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Nah. She ain't top five? All right. Since Kiss, Sheik and Styles didn't put out a solo project, what shall top five without the locks in it? People that put out solo joints. Oh, I got to go. I got to go if the locks ain't in it?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Big Mace. No, big Mace. I'm going, Elephant, man. All right, not, not,
Starting point is 00:31:59 not. Don't hate on elephant. No particular order. I'm throwing G. I'm throwing G. I think G. G. Depp is a better lyricist
Starting point is 00:32:08 than Black Roddibb. Wait, what was the, we said that released the album? Yeah. Well, just that was solo on Bad Boy. Pause,
Starting point is 00:32:14 who's Fuzz Bubble? Never. Never got in the Fuzz Bubble. I never took... You never fuck with Fuzzy? I never check this file long. I don't know who Fuzz Bubble is. But if you said no, they didn't...
Starting point is 00:32:25 No locks? No locks. Solo. Solo. Crague. Leric. Lericist? Blasys.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Up there. Do you put out a solo project with Bad Boy? You just said they didn't. They was just solo. They didn't have to put it out of it. That's fun. Fair, fair. Just lyricists.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Okay. Loses is top five. Craig Mac is not on there? Lyruses top five? Yeah. No, what you're talking about what? Wait, top five? No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Without the locks? All right. GDep, Loon, Black Rob are all better than Craig Mack lyrically. Like, what do we talk about right now? Okay. I don't know about that, son. Like, what do we talk about right now? You got to put King Lose up there.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Lyracist. You got to put King Lund. Shine is a better lyricist than Craig Mac. Shine is better than Craig Mac. Got to put Sean up there. Sean Poe. All right. So without the locks, I'm going, Big Mace, G-Dep,
Starting point is 00:33:15 Shine, Black Rob. I take it back loon I think loon's a better lyricist before black robs right that's my list that's my final final black robs six men of the year yeah yeah next next to fuzzy lyricists you haven't got king lois in there
Starting point is 00:33:30 I don't did he even put a song out on bad boy we just are my lyricist though like raps like you take five niggas from the label and just let them rap that some niggas
Starting point is 00:33:41 there's a lot of niggas not rapping lyricist better than king loas y'all tripping right now but if you don't have a lot of projects or a lot of No, but we're not going on for that. No, but what I'm saying is it's easy to be lyrical if you're, if you only have three examples or three times to be lyrical,
Starting point is 00:33:54 the more you have to do it over the years, like people tend to get less lyrical if they're not that good. You have to prove that you can continue to be lyrical. Good point. I think King Lowe's rapping better than a lot of them niggies. King Lose is one of the, King Lose is an alien. I just don't consider him really like a bad boy artist.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Okay. Well, take G. Depp off and put King Lose thing. Because already on fish this, spaghetti was madwacked to me. Like, that was what? And I was already you're on fished in spaghetti? Like, come on, no, no, no, no. I heard that.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Oh, no. When you heard that, what you thought? What was the last time you listened to GDEP, shout of the ghetto was hard? A child of the ghetto. When it came out, probably, like, and it didn't get a lot of, that's like a underground classic to me. You think so? That album is incredible.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I mean, you was lost me. He lost me on I was already on fish and spaghetti, bro. You ain't go back after that? It was like. No. He said I had a... You never heard... This deficient spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:34:51 This deficient spaghetti. Yo, this deficient spaghetti, man. Yo, this the fish is spaghetti, nigga, I want to hear that. You never heard this song Every Day by GDap? Probably, I probably heard it.
Starting point is 00:35:02 He said, I had a cigarette for breakfast just for beginners, cry for lunch, and scream for dinner. He ain't like that. You ain't like that? And I ain't like him going to the pre-send and do it all that.
Starting point is 00:35:14 That's what I think that's a whole night. That's what it really is. That's what it really going on for that. That's unfair because if we go through the list of things every bad boy artist has done in their free time. I don't know if what G-Dep did is the crazy shit. Yeah, man. We could take big off the list if y'all want for all that nasty stuff he used to say.
Starting point is 00:35:32 We could do that. I don't got no qualms with that. He is that he is. We got to take Biggie off the best lyrics of bad boy. All that nasty shit he used to say. You look so good? Yeah. So tell your daddy's there.
Starting point is 00:35:43 That was a Richard Pry joke. What about what gutter used to do? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, what about he had the techniques dripping out his whistle names and used to sleep on his stomach so he don't fuck up his sheets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Like, he said the bunches, it's just, wait, what? Biggie said I got techniques dripping out my butt cheeks. Pause, I sleep on my stomach so I don't fuck up my sheets. He just used to say anything out his mouth. Anything he wanted to say.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Oh my God. Madness. He said he'll fuck Rup Paul before he fucked him ugly ass escape bitches. He used to say anything out of his mouth. So we could take him off the list if you want. I don't mind that. I really, he's not in my top five
Starting point is 00:36:19 Cause of that No, no, we don't take it Biggie Small is not in my top five Cause of that bro Cause of the nasty raps Biggie got to be Your top five rappers ever Top five
Starting point is 00:36:27 Hove kiss Fab Ross and Drake Big not on that list I know I could find crazy nasty bars from all those guys You tripping like that You tripper Maybe not some of your dad is nasty
Starting point is 00:36:40 Fuck Ruth Paul is that's you get it That's gay That's no there's no way around that That's not a real Richard Prylon. That's your line. We're not putting that on private. I'm doing that time.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm on time. I'm on time. I seem hard. She looked like Smokey Robinson in the flick. But you got to put it up the show. Okay. Wait, wait. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:37:01 No, they just put the pitch up. She looked like smoky. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm chasing that before. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Like you talking about. No disrespect to king, but. No disrespect, I'm saying You put a picture of my mother up Yeah, we're major You're a major We put a picture of my mother So I'm coming in Atlanta
Starting point is 00:37:24 I'll just let you know now You know what Major's my man I don't know Disrespect Biggie was front Biggie Violated Nah, not me
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, I forgot what platform it was But C Gutter was doing an interview When they asked him about that line He was like, yo He was in studio I was like yo Why would you say that about me? I was in a hoon again
Starting point is 00:37:43 I'm a hoon again I'm not butt-raibed out here I'm not butt raping nobody throwing him off the britt like what's wrong with you oh my god big was like i'm trying to make the mafia so shit like i'm gonna make a mystery out he was like i don't want that who my jacket is fuzz bubble though can we click fuzz bubble can we click on fuzz bubble listen what that is he might be a legend we just don't know he's he from long island he from l i rock oh it's a group oh it's rock oh it's rock oh hi hi hi because i was bugging like yeah that was a group from long
Starting point is 00:38:12 island okay all right that's why we didn't know about fuzz bubble mark currie doesn't get any any lyrical love with bad boy? Nah. Damn. You don't fuck my MC? Mark Curry? Yeah. Nah. He had some joints. He wrote some of Puff's best joints. He did. Hooks and shit. Now, he wrote the journal on the Godzilla soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah, he definitely wrote that. But Puff rapping on the Godzilla soundtrack is not like Puff rapping on that first shit. No way out. No, no, definitely. That's Mason Kiss. Yeah. And he was sound, I'm saying? Like, he ain't never really had no rhythm to me. but he was sounding like, that's the best he ever sound rapping.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I mean, I know he's not allowed to say. That's a classic album to me. No way out? Facts. Like, facts. I don't think it's any way to get around,
Starting point is 00:38:57 especially when you're not a rapper. Like, that shit was fire. And he did more numbers than anybody on Bad Boy with that shit. So he was filling himself off of that. Like going to be a party promoter and an exec. And then it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:07 you know what? I'm going to just rap real quick and drop a classic album. Six, seven million. But he had Mason Kiss and everything. Of course. It was like, that was easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:16 that was easy. I was going to say where you put Puff on the list. No, we can't do that. No, we can't do that. He didn't write. He didn't write and rap. We're not doing that. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:28 While we're still on music, Mall, blink your eyes twice if we're getting a Jay-Z reasonable doubt 30th anniversary concert at Barclays Center. Just blink twice. You don't have to say yes or no? If we didn't know what? A 30th anniversary reasonable doubt concert?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yep. You just blink, that's all. At the Barclays, though. Just breathe. You don't have to say. anything. Just breathe if it's yes. Maybe the garden. Because you know there is a rumor.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah, I know. There's a lot of rumors. No, not the rumor in your group chat. I'm saying a rumor like amongst us civilians. It's a lot of rumors, man. I know people like, oh, the Barclays is booked out for two weeks in between, the liberty and this, that. Well, let's not skip steps because Hove and your brother change Jay's name back to the little dot dot thing. J. Y. Hifin. Control them, manipulate.
Starting point is 00:40:15 and I got out of your life, man. Yeah, Jay, Y, hyphen. I like that. With the two little dots. Then they put out Dead Presidents 1 on streaming, which it hadn't been on there before, then did Jayz30.com.
Starting point is 00:40:27 There's vinals, there's merch. I don't think Jay just does shit to do shit. And based off all the deals that we know, your brother and him, that's the baby that they own. They own that in its totality. I don't even need to do some blueprint shit and get fucking universal involved.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I could just do reasonable doubt. I own 100% of the shit. Right. There's no way that they're not taking that opportunity. I think just based off the Liberty having away games, I think Biggs was like, we should do it. You think Biggs said that? I think Biggs was the one that pulled up the Liberty Schedule.
Starting point is 00:41:02 It's not far-fast. I definitely didn't ask, and I honestly don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised. It makes sense. I think that it makes total sense to do it. I don't see why Jay wouldn't do it. And I mean, obviously, the NBA draft is there that week, but it's like a two-week block.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah. You only need one night. Like conveniently on the week that it came out. Yeah. Three years ago. While you were living next door. In the five cities shit, we went to five cities in one day. I remember I was up north watching that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Every stop. And just performed five cities in one day? That's what he did. You don't remember he did that? Five cities one day? Yeah, he did five cities one day. That sounds like some jay. Just hopped on a jet.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Just hopped on the jet. I think he went to like Chicago, L.A. Cross time zone. Yeah. He finished off in New York. But I, all right. Do we have predictions of what I don't think just doing a show, I don't think that's enough. The album?
Starting point is 00:41:55 You want reasonable doubt, too? I don't. I don't. I don't want Jay to put out in a moment, no, another album. Because we're going to have guys like Yadi and I'm going to shit on it, says crash. Nobody want to hear that lyrical, lyrical miracle. But do you think that they're, they would put out dead presence on streaming, have this website just, just for one? concert, I feel like there's going to be more around this.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I don't know. I don't know. You too hopeful. No, I don't think Jay's putting out new music. I don't think this is around an album whatsoever. I just don't think you're doing a full website just for one reasonable doubt anniversary concert. I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I think I just got there. I don't know what that is, but I think there's going to be much more attached to it, mainly because the businessman that Jay Z is, this is an entity that he owns. full outright. Like there's no other partner besides Biggs and I guess the state of New York. But that's neither here nor there. But I think they would put more into that because they own it outright than just doing a show at the Barclays. Like I think that's going to be part of it.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I just don't know if that's going to be the only thing. But if you do both of them the same night. As far as what? The Barclays in the garden. That would be crazy. That's in Tennessee up. I will say I was at I was at made in America you should tell him that you should tell him that
Starting point is 00:43:19 you should tell him that you know dude Barclays and the garden same night fuck the city up nobody else could do that you could sell both of them out nobody else could do that bro when we were at when he headline and live stream him going from Brooklyn to the man on the train with the pottery lady again have like one train
Starting point is 00:43:35 like had a J train taking from Barclays to gotta be five you did five cities before wait so they're gonna move the J train to a new another part of to Brooklyn? You could put the sign up. You could just put the sign on it. I don't think Mom Dogie doing all that.
Starting point is 00:43:49 All you got to do is change the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you meant like just spell it like J-A-Y. But if Jay going to do that, he would actually, he would actually, he would do some super ill shit and have the whole train shit painted over a reasonable doubt and let it take him from Barclays to the garden.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And perform on it. Well, they put Wi-Fi in the trains and took it away. You could live stream somehow if you're Jay-Z and continue your. performance. Like you keep rapping on the train on the way to the guard. Do the New York shit while you're on the train. It's not a long, it's not a long train. If you, if we can change the letter, we'll get expressed. Be doing New York while you want to train on a J and the Z, on the J and the Z line. Put a new york. Alicia Keys on the piano on the platform.
Starting point is 00:44:32 But we saying all of that. We said all of that. All of that sounds great, right? And guess what? A lot of these streams on this shit trash. Who cares? But who cares. I'm just saying. Yo, but I'm saying a lot of me that's going to love that. That would be amazing. And it's going to be a sector that has a lot of control and I guess, you know, fragmented media, right? They're going to have their own streaming platform watching it. You know, this shit is trash. This shit is trashed.
Starting point is 00:44:55 So it's like... I don't think Jay's thinking about any of those No, he's... Of course, he's not. But who you're talking about, like, the young streaming niggins? I'm talking about the younger... I'm talking about the younger. Just the younger genre, the younger audience. But niggas is going to be all the way than longer than they're going to be younger. So fuck with them young niggis thing. Respectfully.
Starting point is 00:45:11 That's how you pulled the moon. Fuck with you. With the young streamers. Their whole life is based off negativity. Jesus Christ himself would come back and be like, yo, why are you wearing sandals? Like there'd never be, you're never going to, you're never going to impress these guys. Why Jesus didn't have one of some Balenci's, right?
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, you had them regular assandals, put on some Balenci's. He don't have been able to, how can I pray to somebody wearing that? Yeah. I don't know, I think there's something more attached to the reason with that shit. I honestly haven't asked,
Starting point is 00:45:37 but I'll hit Biggs and ask them though. Like, it got to be, it got to be something happening. Jay Not just selling t-shirts at jZ30.com. you're not creating that just for the fuck of it because you would just sell your vinals and t-shirts on your regular shit I just don't I don't know man I don't know if Jay is inspired
Starting point is 00:45:55 or motivated right now to But that you don't You could be inspired by the 30th anniversary of your first album You know yeah performing is old shit maybe To honor that I get that yeah I'm not saying you're not to move out Reasble out too
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah I'm not saying he's gonna do his fall off I would like to see him put the album back out and then put like two new tracks on there I wouldn't be mad at that like two new tracks or reasonable doubt. Like, don't give us a whole new album. Just give us two ballads joints.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah. But that fit with that time. Well, he should do what he did on volume. It was a volume three when you had to skip ahead. The last record was like 20 minutes long. Yeah. You had to fast forward on your Walkman to get. Like, you should be half, it's only on the vinyl.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And you got to wait 20 minutes to get to it. Hip hop did that because I forgot who did that on the album. And that's what hip hop got that, was inspired to do that at. There was a single. One of the three records that were at the end of volume three, one of them was, like, they put a single at the end of that shit. Yeah, that was hot doing that. I forgot what album he heard and he was like, oh shit, like, you let the tape play like it's another song on there. And everybody's like, where?
Starting point is 00:46:58 So when he, A&R, reasonable doubt, he was inspired to do that. He was like, nah, we got to do that on this album. Yeah, because that, I think it was two or three records on volume three that you had to fast forward to. But, no, I would love to watch. Yeah, I don't really want new music from Jay Neaver, though. I do. I mean, I wouldn't mind it. I wouldn't mind it, but I ain't looking for it.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Don't get it twisted. If we open our phones right now and Jay's post a link for a new, says new album Friday. Oh, I'm definitely. Yeah. But I just. And if he never do it, I don't care. Yeah, but if he don't do it, because obviously he's a legacy act at this point. But I'm just saying, like, I just don't, I can't sit back and just watch the internet tear down a J album.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Like, that shit will really piss me off. Because all this other shit that you hype up and say is dope and it's dope and it's, hard and this niggas, I, I, whatever, Jay put out a new album and y'all niggas is trashing. Like, that's just going to cause a whole divide. You're going to crash out? No, I'm not going to cry. My crash out days is over, but I'm not doing that. But it's just like, I don't want to even see that.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Like, I don't even want niggas to get the opportunity to disrespect the legends. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just like, they're waiting to do that. Those shit trash. And this nigga's still rapping like, nobody wants to hear this shit. They ain't doing that to Tia? Yes, they are. They are?
Starting point is 00:48:10 I ain't see that. Only Atlanta's not doing it to. T.I. I think Atlanta's doing it to TI too, though. I think some nigs in Atlanta ain't jacking that shit. I'm not jacked. A lot of people like it more than I'm saying the shit where he was in front of the car. That was the Ferell did, right? I think so yeah. I was okay. I like the Ferell record. That was all right. But I'm saying the disc records is dirt. I don't like the disc records. I think that niggas is just too old to be making disc records, though. Like when you 45, 46, like I just think that when your kids is in college. The kid thugging on the internet, you can't be making this record.
Starting point is 00:48:41 making this right. 50 did reply this morning, sort of, via IG. I don't need me to rap. You need me to wrap. Get off my page. Wait, 50 said, I don't need me to rap. You need me to rap. Get off my page.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yo, yo, you 50 got like 49 million monthly listeners on Spotify. T.I got like 14. I wouldn't have done no verses with no nigger like that, neither. Is that much disparity? Is that much disparity? Is that much disparity?
Starting point is 00:49:12 I'm just saying off of pure music. Son is not going on stage when he's calling you a rat. I don't know why you would want to do a verses with a nigger calling you a rat. Nigger been calling you a rat for 20 years. That's a fact. And you want to do a versus with this. You should probably want to fight this nigga. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I mean, Gigi and Gucci did. Did the shit, though. And not that anyone called each other a rat, but somebody died, though. Some history that's even crazier than calling somebody a rat. You niggas was men's before. They was cool before. That's a totally different story. We from here, we was cool before.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Some shit happened. That's different thing. Come on, JZ, Gucci. Jeezy and Gucci. They was cool before. They did songs and all that they got them before. They was I. So they reconciled.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And I think people kind of guessed that that was. That's like a reconciliation, right? When you used to be cool and you wasn't, that you back cool. That's T.R. 50 never was cool. He never was my man, homie. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, that even goes back to, I don't know if y'all remember when the swagger like us days.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Remember when when 50 was on the stage, when he tried to crash around them, niggas. The swagger like us. He was running laps around him, niggins. Puff, Jay. He was running laps around them, niggas, literally and figuratively. That's a fact. That's what he was telling him on that stage.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I'm running laps around you, nigga. I'm not on this time. Y'all clicking up and I don't need to. I'm running laps around y'all niggas. That's what he did? Though at that point, 50 was kind of checked out from music. Was he? Nah.
Starting point is 00:50:31 That was too bad. I get money. I get money was 07. Yeah, that's like O'7-O-8? Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'm running last around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I'm jogging on the stage. I'm running, running laps around y'all niggas, man. Your niggas ain't doing nothing. I might play A-O technology and run around the fucking gym. But it goes back far. You know how I feel about that record. That's what I said. That shit was a big song, but I hated that on that tape.
Starting point is 00:50:57 She worked the pose. She worked the pose. What? Fitts is the most simplest. I'm telling you. He heard that off. Love 50, but that record I hated. I like the first four songs on that album, and then after that, I was cool.
Starting point is 00:51:08 The Curtis. That's Curtis. Oh, I'm about to say. you were wild. You thought A-O technology was on Get Rich. No, I thought he was saying
Starting point is 00:51:13 the office off the app off the- I think Massacre is better than get rich though. You said that to me the other week
Starting point is 00:51:19 and, nah. What? Massacre, I think doesn't get... You was locked up when the album came out.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Regardless, what that means. You just had that shit on repeat. You just memorized it. Both of them. I think Massacre is better than
Starting point is 00:51:32 get rich. He did convince me to have a better appreciation for Massker once we went through it because it's been a minute since I like listen to
Starting point is 00:51:38 to Masser. It's not better than Get Rich, but it's better than we think it is. Yeah. It was just so commercial at that point. It ain't better than it's like. What happened was he gave away
Starting point is 00:51:48 some real big songs and during that same time too, you heard. So you was hearing them game records and you was like, oh shit. And then when his shit came out, it was like, damn, you should have put those on his tape. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:59 But that tape though, if you go through them records, that shit is fire, son. Damascus, son. I like that better than Get Rich? Yes, I like it better than Get Rich. Okay, what you say you like it better? Get Rich.
Starting point is 00:52:08 had songs on it that like I was in the streets thugging to the fucking album came out three years later after I was off of the streets and it's like, why is this on here? And I'm saying, why is this why is this song? You can shot running the cops, you're not like, why is this on
Starting point is 00:52:24 get rich a Dodshrine? Wow. Okay. Yeah, and I mean, wankster wankster was a year old. Paul Little Rich, nigga, that was a year old already. It was songs on it that I knew word for it. I'm listening to the album. Niggas is looking at how the fuck you know this?
Starting point is 00:52:40 Tom, we just went in the town, riding around, going up town of this shit every day. Yeah. Yeah, you're not like me. It was like four years older than that. You're not like me. It's older than that. That's why it's like a bonus, right?
Starting point is 00:52:48 It's not even like, it's another one. Murder. I don't believe. That's what he had Jaru chain. That's from 99. But they put those as bonus joints just because the rest of the world
Starting point is 00:52:57 didn't hear those, which I understand Jimmy Alvin and them doing that. But you did make a good point with Massacre. If you take the records that 50 gave game off documentary and replace it with the, the sub-reveadded. Par Records on Massacre.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Now we could have a real debate about the classics back to back. Oh, easy. Because I think, I think documentaries are classic. And just that run of going from get rich to beg for mercy, documentary straight out of Cashville. Hunger for more. Hunger for more. I think thoughts of a predicate felon is fighting.
Starting point is 00:53:32 That's a good album, too. That you doing three years is find me any record label. Death Row maybe. Soundtrack, the Get Richard Dott Trying soundtrack. Yeah, that's all within three to four years. Fifty first five years is the best five years in hip hop. That's the best first five year run ever in hip hop, son. I don't care what nobody's saying.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And a lot of people disagree with you are probably younger because they weren't there. They don't know that that, it controlled the world. Name one. Name of five year run that, like all of that shit, he just named. It's more shit. You got to, it's more stuff. you add in a video game you add in fucking
Starting point is 00:54:10 watch his sneakers clothes those was nasty so what you add in vitamin water we wouldn't even have vitamins or water if it wasn't for that era vitamin water was trash vitamin water was so nasty
Starting point is 00:54:21 that shit tastes like it was in somebody else's mouth already I never drunk that shit that shit was terrible but that's why 50 to me was ill because he literally said I get money I said I took quarter water put it in bottles for two bucks cocaine bought it for beans
Starting point is 00:54:34 what the 50 knew that shit was trash. Nah, quarter water is better than biting. Way better. I don't know, but I could drink the quarter water. Is it power 50? Way better than the grape 50 cent juice.
Starting point is 00:54:45 For sure. 50 cents shit was purple, but at this age, I promise you, if you drink a quarter water versus that, we like the vitamin. It was like Formula 50.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's what that was in. Formula 50. Yeah. Give me my little huggy, homie. Yeah, give me the little. Give me my little huggy,
Starting point is 00:54:59 yeah. The grape quarter water, the one in the back, though. At the back of the fridge. By the fan? Mad cold. Get, grab.
Starting point is 00:55:06 fat one because that's going that's going to stay cold until you get back to the block. Formula 50 had like that after you take cough medicine aftertaste. That's kind of what Formula 50 tastes it like. That shit was kind of formula. That shit was terrible. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor
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Starting point is 00:56:41 I'm saying, overall, overall, overall, go overall. I dare you No, it's 50 50 When he dropped That shit was He shook the entire The entire industry
Starting point is 00:56:50 up for sure And it's also not fair Because all right You could say You say Drake had a Great run In his first five years Musically nobody had to run
Starting point is 00:56:59 That Drake has Cool But what's all 50 years That's cat Usually the artist Usually the artist It's better than Drake
Starting point is 00:57:05 First five years Musically Musically? Yes No it's not Man what are you talking about Music Just music
Starting point is 00:57:10 Just music How no How? How? How? How are you saying that? Are you talking? Just talking music. If you're talking about business and other things outside of the music.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Because get Richard Dott trying, the massacre, the soundtrack, hunger for more, the documentary, thoughts of a predicate feeling, the rotten apple, like all of the curdie. All of this shit come out in the first five years, bro. I buck the world is fire on the low. Buck album. Are you all talking about the success of the music or the quality of the music? That first five run, there was not a bad unit. album like they all did the numbers but if you go back that's all quality nobody was whack nobody
Starting point is 00:57:48 nobody had no all of that all of that collect that were actually quality all of that collectively cool great shit y'all think that would drake dropped in his first five years is not better than all of that shit you're talking about in five years i so you when do we star's album is better than get rich a unfair conversation you think Drake first album is better than get rich of that's right no you don't then it's over the conversation is over that's not because if you if your first album The second album. You think his second album better than the massacre? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Hell yeah. His mixtape so far gone, like, what are we talking about, bro? That wasn't his first album. I'm just how much it's music. The second album, right? Thank me later is his first album. Thank me later. This is his first album.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I'm saying, so far gone came out, what, the year before. Because here's the thing with, if you want to go with the run, I've said on record, I think you could argue so far gone is one of the best mixtap ever, but it also compares with what gets who's back. So far gone is the best mixtape ever. Nah. What? Man.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So far gone? Son, that shit ain't better than G. When it is the future to me. Get the fuck out of me. What you mean? Guess what back to me is my favorite ball time. With that guy?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Get out the club bitch? I wish. That's what get out the club bitch and all that on it. So far gone. Y'all niggas remember what was on so far gone? Of course. Yeah. I just wish this was successful.
Starting point is 00:59:03 That's crazy as hell, man. When I first heard Drake, when I first heard the Nick, I didn't like the That makes better than some niggas and tied discographies. No, a lot of people would say that that's, Drake's. actual classic is so far gone. I wish it didn't come from you, pause, because I've said that when we've just been already in mixtapes, I think people don't realize
Starting point is 00:59:21 that... Why you wish it didn't come from me? Because people just think you're biased, and that's all. We're talking about the music exists. The shit is out. Like, what do we... Go listen to it. I'm saying, when I first heard that nigga Drake on that, um, you the best, I ain't like that, nigga. I said, yo, this shit is trash.
Starting point is 00:59:38 And by the time I heard that shit on so far gone, it seemed like I knew the whole song, you heard. Put the key on this, man, yeah. I was like, oh shit, this is fire. It's like I never heard it before. But you was like I knew the whole song. No, I don't go for that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Guess who's back? Rod and Apple. Junet, that's what's up. You're not like me. 50 bars. Your life's on the line. Half these records made it on Get Rich. Let's just start there.
Starting point is 01:00:02 This mixtape, half of it is Get Rich. You not like me. 50 bars, your life on the line. Get out the club, bitch. Be a gentleman. Fuck you. Too hot with Nas and Nature. Who you rep.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Nas, Brave Hearts. Corner Bodega, ghetto Karan, as the world turns with Bunby, who could freestyle, stretch Armstrong freestyle. This is the, this is the greatest mixtape of all time. That's better than a Drake mix tape, bro. 50 cent has the greatest mistake of all time. I'm not saying that so far gone is not in a conversation, but this is the greatest mixtape that's ever been put together.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I don't know if I'm rolling with that. But that's why this is beautiful to have a conversation because we all have different perspectives and different music that we like. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying, besides successful, besides successful and So Fargo on what else? No, Fargoan is flawless. You don't, you, you must not be familiar.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Well, you need to go back and revisit it. So far going, shit? You need to go. If you're even talking about successful, you need to go back and revisit. Also, a weird comparison, because I think it's the first mixtape that, like, really merged
Starting point is 01:01:00 from an artist itself, not a DJ, that merged R&B and rap the way Drake did on that. So it's a weird, half the album is R&B. Like, yeah, that's probably why I'm not going to jack it's the best. We have in our mind, 99.99% mixtapes is...
Starting point is 01:01:15 We come on music. Just music. Forget if it's R&Bia rap. We're talking about the best body of music on the mixtape. But there's a reason why people don't... You can't really compare... People would compare it to, like, Cuddy's mixtapes before they would compare it to guess who's back.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Or Clue mixtapes or shit, even Wayne's mixtape series. But it's a mixtape. Dipset mix tape series. Yes, it's a mixtape. I'm just saying it's the best mixtape. I'm not saying it's the best rap mixtape or the best. I'm saying it's the best mixtape. That music on a mixtape was, that's better than some albums.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Like, what are we talking about? That's all I'm saying. Now, if y'all want to go whether it's the best R&B mix table or best rap, okay, then we can have that. I'm saying mixtape, period. It's not a commercial album. That's a hell of a monkey range right there. We just said, okay, it's the best mixtape.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I thought he was on some rap shit. Here's the thing. I'm getting pushback, but I also don't think, I don't think Moore's completely wrong if you get down to it. The impact that mixtape had, I don't know if there's been a mixtape that had an impact that legitimately, of course, it derived from A to Wates and Heartbreaks, but I don't know if there's been a mixtape that changed the trajectory of how music sounds the way so far on. No, it's definitely rap. It changed how everything operated after that. I tell people that is rap after Drake.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And so that mixtape right there is the one where you say after so far gone is like music changed. Yeah, I agree there. But yeah, so far gone was kind of that. the same way it pivoted with 50 and Kanye going face to face and Kanye winning where the nerds beat the streets that pivot and then right to so far going to me is the next pivot in hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And then you get to the double XO freestyle of 2015 when it was Yadi and all of them. That was the next pivot to me. All our street niggas knew Kanye was going to win that, son. The whole world kind of did and it just... We knew that. It was like, you know, 50 was like he was feeling itself
Starting point is 01:03:08 more than anybody else was feeling him at that moment. It was like, but he had a right to. As far as, as far as like, he had a right to. I feel like you can't be on your dick more than anybody else is on your dick, though. I feel like you can't do that. It sounds like a biggie, boy.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Yeah, like you can't do that, bro. That's a maze ball. Actually, rock my own, knock my own shit like I'm on my own dick. You can't do that, though. I feel like that's what, that's why he messed up with that. But I think 50 knew that too, because 50 got desperate. 50 said Jimmy Avine and them wouldn't ship nothing.
Starting point is 01:03:39 they wouldn't bob a bunch of them shit you remember like right towards the end like the week before everything was dropping 50 said if Kanye wins I'm gonna quit rap so if y'all don't buy my album just know I'm never rapping again he knew what was going on no I know we all knew that 50 was gonna lose that and if you get down like as much as I like Curtis
Starting point is 01:03:57 though you were dealing with graduation like what are we talking about it was just a different moment like that Kanye the world was shifting everything the internet came like everything was different that was the class of the trolls though Soldier Boy was lit. Yeah, oh, hell you. I don't know for a lot.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Yeah, he was lit. And that's what he popped off. He still was. Well, he popped off earlier, but. That was, like, kind of like his prime. Oh, seven. Yeah. Craig, that soldier.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I remember, I remember watching all of these videos at the same time. Oh, my God. Yeah. I'm done. Did you catch that on that hammer? Yeah. Don't ever do that. Don't never do that.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Netflix, Nick fuck you talk about crank that on Netflix they can fucking talk about You were in jail at that time? Yeah You were in jail He said he was born in 0
Starting point is 01:04:50 Oh two I came home in 2020 Yeah So all this shit we talk about He was like I was listening to this shit in jail Everything Everything we're talking about
Starting point is 01:04:59 He was in jail You knew how to do the whole You learned how to do the soldier boy in jail Nah I just not to do that part Oh that's a Walking out your cell like That's what they used to be doing this guy You know
Starting point is 01:05:15 You listen I was in the spouse and Wendy Wendy That's upstate right So it's mad Like that's the preference spot For the upstate niggas The Buffalo niggas
Starting point is 01:05:22 Rochester niggins So they don't different type of time The city niggas Anyway you are Yeah Signed them niggies Used to be coming out This cell
Starting point is 01:05:29 They make it fun of the nigg And all that Uh huh You You That shit was hilarious You heard Worry about Bubba
Starting point is 01:05:37 son. Soldier boy, they was doing to you in prison just so you of no. That's Big Draco. Of course he
Starting point is 01:05:43 know that. Cold killers. Yeah. Big Draco was there. You're the first nigga to have niggas
Starting point is 01:05:47 doing your dancing jail, my nigg my nigg not click that and had big Draco straight up,
Starting point is 01:05:55 that is hilarious. Hit the cell the niggas is doing that. Niggas come out and they're like you who,
Starting point is 01:06:01 you word the mother that nigs beat the little nigg is crying you're right? Oh my God. All that shit was the same time, though,
Starting point is 01:06:11 like 07, Mims, soldier boy, 50 and Kanye going at it. Yeah. You could have whatever you like. All that shit was like the same time. You remember Sicario? Of course. The magazine, nigga?
Starting point is 01:06:25 No, no, not. Same reason why we were talking off mic with Nause going on that rent. About Angie. He used to rap with her. He used to rap by Angie Montina. He ruffed a lot like, oh. You remember Sakara.
Starting point is 01:06:37 You heard this shit before. I probably got a hit the nigger's that I was confused with J-Z. The niggas, with the nigger from on B-Mole, Noe. That was with Jim Jones and them, niggins. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember a kid named Billy Bafgay. You sound just like Hove, you heard. Crazy, Billy Bafgate.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah, he used to sound like, I had some, every tape they used to come out, mix tape. He used to be on that shit sounded just like, oh. Yeah. You've brought up Billy Bafgay on this podcast before, which I was like, yo, how did that name even? Billy Bafgay. I remember Billy Bafgay.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I remember everything, son. I used to be looking for them niggas. I used to want to ground against them. All them niggas. They were telling me, you know, J. Mills is looking for nigs. I'm looking for him. He was jumping for niggas.
Starting point is 01:07:15 He was jumping out. He was jumping out. He was looking for niggas. He was looking through your hood. His man got the camera. I was up town looking for them niggas. Yeah. But that's the part of battle rap
Starting point is 01:07:24 that niggas don't really talk or know about is that when niggas should literally go to niggas blocks. Yes. Like, I tell niggas and all of them, they come from that. Like, Rex, moogs, they literally would walk to go to whoever. Like, imagine that.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I'm going to somebody's block. 12 of them, niggas, 13 of them, and we just standing on the corner. Waiting for a nigga. Like, yo, you know such a thing? Let me hear something. Yeah. They don't know how you look or none of it.
Starting point is 01:07:45 They could be asking you. Like, yo, you know, Rory? Like, nah, I don't know him. Yeah, yeah. They're like, they heard you rap. So they're like, yeah. They're going to get his man's and him come back. Like, yo, you was looking for Rory.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Yeah, that's him right there. I just asked y'all. Yeah. Yeah. They, that was Mills and Mook. They put it on camera of what was happening at that point. The state building?
Starting point is 01:08:02 Yeah. That shit was fine. That was the first life. To me, like one that was on the big screen of what they were doing on. When I finally got a chance to see that, you mind you,
Starting point is 01:08:10 I got liggas up north that's been all of the battle raps. They know every battle rap. They come like, you could tell the niggit, anybody you name like, yo, T-top, let me hear some T-tops shit.
Starting point is 01:08:18 He know it. Like, they know everything. When I first got a chance to see that shit in front of the state building that's like some shit that I was mad I wasn't around for. Classics. That's to me.
Starting point is 01:08:27 That's a classic battle. Yeah, that's a classic. I was looking at that shit like, damn, I'm mad. I wasn't there with a toe back on everything big ass hat. Like I was mad. I wasn't there for it. Because now, now battle rap is different. It's more performative now.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Now it's like spoken word. It's a lot of theatres. But that kind of derived from Mills and Mook to me from that battle. And even kind of what Sirius Jones and Moog were doing, Lux and Moog were doing. Nah, because when Mills and Moog that battle, those bars could be tailored for anybody that rap. It wasn't specific.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Now it's more tailored for the individual They're talking about it. You're saying rapes, Moog would have spit The shit. I'm saying in the middle. He would have told me them same exact raps in my hood. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:05 It was a different way. But Mills and Mook, they were saying personal, shit, they said his government name in that. No, you, it was, that was in there.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Like, most of the rap, but most of the rap was bars that they could spit at. Oh, no, that's why I'm saying they're the blueprint
Starting point is 01:09:19 of the style now from those battles because, shit, Sirius Jones and Mook was all about where Mook went to school. Like, Even Lux in Mooc in that regard.
Starting point is 01:09:28 To me, they're the ones and even how the style is. You don't like what they're doing on Beasts right now? I don't mind it. I like it a little bit. Yeah, I don't mind that. I don't know. Battle Rockies.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I was just the game out of that shit. How's it? I was trying to sick this nigga on this nigga, sick this nigga on that, nigga. It was working a little bit. Would you battle? Yeah, it was working. Would you battle?
Starting point is 01:09:54 This nigga start talking that suck my dick shit, man. I'm smacking. I'm smacking. I ain't playing that. You're going to bat. If we go battle, you're going to tell me, tell me some shit you would have told me in person. Like in the regular conversation.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Talk shit. But you tell me these suck your dick on my moms. And I'm slapping the shit out of you, honey. I don't care about how much money that was on this stage. You ain't going to tell you. You ain't getting that off. You ain't playing, yo, homie.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I don't play sports for certain reasons. Yeah. Nigger take a cheap shot. We ain't getting the way. We ain't in the NBA. I ain't playing an elbow, me and my arm pulled up. Oh, yo, we're playing basketball. Now, I'm popping you over this shit,
Starting point is 01:10:26 nigga. that's a cheap shot. You want to did that. You want to elbow me. We was just talking. But now you get to get an elbow. I'm not doing that. So that's why I wouldn't do the bad.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I'm not sure. If the understanding is that nobody actually means this shit. And this is my entertainment purposes. Now, just don't tell me to suck your wee wee wee. Fair. No, fair. I'm not saying. You can say what I'm saying, do your thing.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Don't tell me that shit. That's in the contract? Yes. That's a lot. I don't know. Suck my dead board. Yeah. I like that shit.
Starting point is 01:10:59 And put my in mind that if he said and I smack the shit out of him, I can still get my money. We all still keep our money yet. Straight up. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. Do we have voicemails sponsored by Boost? You've got mail.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Best podcast in the world. My favorite podcast in the world. I watch how faithfully, what up, baby Dee. It's Mitch from Atlanta. I just said, I got 90 seconds. So I'm finished just trying to hurry up and do this shit. But I say you with a woman for five years, you're in a relationship for five years, period. And you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:11:31 Y'all love each other. Y'all are best friends. Y'all don't have a whole lot of first experiences together than what the Mexico, cruises, all kinds of shit. But during that five years, y'all have also been very toxic. And y'all drink every time y'all together. Tequila shots, oh, it's lit. We watch some baddies. We drink in.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Whatever, whatever, right? So it was one night where she sees a pair of pennies and my money. my closet. And I, you know, I confused. I thought they were hers. But I also have a child to my son's mother. She used to live with me like seven, eight years ago or whatever the case may be. So I thought I got rid of all this shit. It's very easy. If a shorty-wear medium, it's very easy to just oversee that little article of clothing. At least that's, I mean, that's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? But she thought it was some new shit. I've never cheated on her in my life. And I don't cheat. I don't do that. You know what I'm saying? But
Starting point is 01:12:25 she pours piss in my face when she sees these panties. We ain't talked for five, six months after that. Now we're backing each other's lives and I don't know if I should be doing this right now. Y'all tell me, Valentine's Day coming up and trying to figure it up.
Starting point is 01:12:43 All right, well, not cleaning your closet out in over five years. I don't know if there's much difference with piss being on you because you're dirty. No. No. He probably didn't go. What if they was clean?
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yeah, he probably didn't go to the back of the cloud. There's probably in a box or something like in the back of the closet. They started, they were together for five years, which means there was time. It's probably six years that he's not even looked in his closet. Yeah, but if they were in the little box in the closet, like the top of the closet, like you just, you don't know that they're in there. Six years? Or he thought, yeah, he said he probably overlooked that he could have thought they were hers. Yeah, he thought they were hers.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Don't pissing somebody faces. That's some jam. Like, let's get to that important part. Fuck them drugs. Yeah, like fucking pains. Like, fucking drugs. Hep C? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Pissing somebody's face? No, I think that's absolutely. And like, like, what she did she pissed in the cup? Like, and then like. Or did she scoop it out of the toilet? He posed to have a C felony. Yeah. And MC at the same time.
Starting point is 01:13:37 She posed to not be here no more. Like, you're supposed to. That's a different. That's a felony, son. That's a different level of thinking to think about how bad you have to piss and what size cup you grab from the cupboard. Like, nah, this one's too small. I got a really piss. Like, and she, though, so she put a cup and, like, she put a cup and, like,
Starting point is 01:13:52 like squatted over the toilet and then went in the room and threw pissing his face. She could have just peed in the toilet and then grabbed something to scoop it out of the, yeah. Piss and tallow. If she got rooted and I ain't as mad. There's fecal matter in the toilet no matter how much you clean it. It's worse. It's worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Scooping the water and the piss out of the tub is worse. It's definitely worse. They tell you they. And he didn't clean his closet in six years. I'm sure his toilets aren't up to dig. Yeah, I ain't throwing pit. And then he back with her. So my Valentine's Day coming up.
Starting point is 01:14:23 That thing. That thing. back. No one more. That thing. By back. Snapper. Or niggas just be like insecure.
Starting point is 01:14:30 I don't know. It's one of the other. Either that pussy fire or he's just insecure. He's supposed to be in jail. He said it's been toxic though. So like he likes toxic shit because he said the relationship was toxic. They're always drunk together. Like it's one of those.
Starting point is 01:14:42 But for five years, you live together for five years. And all y'all do is take tequila shots and watch baddies. You should drop dead. Yeah. Oh my God. Are you cool today? No, I'm talking about how the human body works. Oh.
Starting point is 01:14:55 For five years, y'all live together, and all y'all do for five years is take tequila shots. I don't think he's not say all y'all do. He just says usually when we're together, we go out, we get drunk a lot, a lot of people's relationships. For five, all right. You said they went to Mexico, cruises. They be doing shit. All of that. All that is null in void.
Starting point is 01:15:11 That's another word. When you throw piss on my face, I don't care how many cruises. You fuck y'all getting into two of much other shit. You throw piss in my face, our entire data is deleted. Sponsored by Boo's mobile unlimited talk, texting that. you throw piss in my face all of that is deleted call it for the account number yeah you through piss in my face call it for the account number you could have slapped me you could have like you throw piss in my face nah man we're not back to gain no ain't no back together because he did all that and it was like
Starting point is 01:15:40 so yeah we back together now the valentine's coming he like i feel like i shouldn't be doing this what's i feel like i shouldn't see i don't i don't live in in this world because i'm with mow there after someone throws piss in your face what's the first text message hey how do you even get back together after somebody throws pissing your face you gotta come bail me out
Starting point is 01:16:02 because I'm in jail you got black eyes missing teeth you bailing me out we back together that's the only way that's gonna work yeah you think you're gonna I don't put my hands on women be I don't do that but if you throw piss on me
Starting point is 01:16:19 you're not a lady no that's not you was you here You're an animal. Yeah, you're an animal. Yeah, that's a felony. Yeah, you're an animal. If you don't piss on somebody, you could go to jail for that.
Starting point is 01:16:27 That's an assault in the first degree. That's a fact. And to keep it even if a dude threw piss on a girl's face and she stabbed him, I'd be like, well, you should have got stabbed. Yeah, 100%. 100%. I don't think there's another result after throwing piss in somebody's face, but violence.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Yeah, you can't throw. The only thing I can say is make my little sister whip your ass, something you're going to get hurt though for that. I'm not holding that down. Yeah, I'm not. I can never look you in your face. And all they do is drink tequila and watch baddies. I know they're not hydrated.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Yellow. Like that was yellow. Yeah, that was that. Yeah, that was that vitamin water, yellow. Remember the yellow vitamin water? That was that. The energy one? Shoulder like beer.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah. That shit fizzed up like beer, two in the head of in his face. She's like beer. I think you had wild, piss bubbles sliding out of his face. Yeah. Crazy? Yeah. That is crazy to throw piss in somebody's face.
Starting point is 01:17:19 If you're willing to stay with somebody after they, or go back to somebody after they threw piss in your face, y'all probably belong together. Yeah, because you found some panties. Yeah. And you'd be drunk, they might be yours. You'd be drunk all the time. You've been drunk for five years.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Yeah, you're wild and you're bugging. And we'd be drunk. I would have been in jail. It's not about it. You found panties because y'all said it must be in the back end of a closet because it takes six years to find this shit. You can't talk your way out of that one. Yeah, I could deal with a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:49 But a woman don't pissing my, I've never put my hands up. a woman a day in my life. A woman throw piss in my face, I will forget everything my mother. I'm on the side of no matter what I'm forgetting everything my mother ever You shouldn't spit on nobody.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Once spit happens, I feel like it's... Spit I would have lived with more than piss. I'm saying, I draw the line at somebody spit on someone. I would have definitely been... Because my mom, my mom definitely, listen, she know I would never... But if a woman spit my face,
Starting point is 01:18:12 my mom would tell me sure you're supposed to knock every tooth out of her mouth. Your mother's a very calm. My mom is from the hood. My mom is from all. But me and my brother... My mom is from her. You're supposed to knock.
Starting point is 01:18:21 every two-file. You know, listen, like me and my brother had the reputation in her, right, hooligans, right? So my little sister, she was on some, like, she had, she had stalled on some shit because she knows she got two brothers, them niggas will go to jail. They don't mind going to jail for murder, right?
Starting point is 01:18:35 So we used to tell her, though, yo, you got to be careful what you do because some niggas, they don't care about what your brother's in them, at all. At all. You put your hands on, the nigger might knock you out. Nigel might break your jaw,
Starting point is 01:18:46 so you got to be mindful of what you're doing. And clearly, she had no male members and her family to tell her to be because I don't know like down south he said he was in Atlanta right yeah yeah that country nigga I'm surprised he ain't drag up to him wood you pissed because you found some panties
Starting point is 01:19:03 you went to you didn't slap him in his face yeah snuff me boom you didn't fucking throw bleach on his clothes you could have did all of that before squatting over the tub or the toilet peeing in the fucking tubberware and throwing it in my face like from Atlanta could be his kink
Starting point is 01:19:18 nah hell no beep it too Throwing piss in my face. Nah, that's, that's, that's, there's, there's no coming back. You back with her, you might as well give her everything for Valentine's Day, whatever she wants. Yeah. Like, do it other.
Starting point is 01:19:31 You should have a Valentine's Day with her every month. Fuck it. Every 14th, for every month, you just go spend a bunch of money on her. I like that idea, Zip. Yeah, buy all kind of chocolates for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get us some water pills, though, so the next time you do it, and shit be clear.
Starting point is 01:19:47 It don't stink and all of that. Yeah, get some water pills, yeah. Yeah, I ain't a lot. He better than me, dog. That woman would never be in my presence ever in her life. I think he's better than everybody we've ever met. Yeah, that's, that's, I ain't no coming back from that. And he said to me your time of him, I never cheated.
Starting point is 01:20:02 She must listen to this podcast. I never cheated, never, never. What if you never cheated, though? I don't believe him. Okay. Because why you accept the piss? If you never cheated, you want to accept that piss. Mom, what if he cheated?
Starting point is 01:20:13 That's a good point. Still don't throw piss. What if he love her? What if he really, really love her? It's been five years. Stop looking at me. I'm just saying, I'm just saying with me, love it.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I know, I know love is the most important thing in this world, but I feel like urine being thrown in my face surpasses, what keeps the planet. I feel like love is like any other feeling. Niggi don't be mad for ever, a nigga ain't gonna be a love for ever. That's the fact.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Did you bugging throw a piss on me? Straight up. In your face? Yeah. Any way on the nigga, but in your face, you tasted that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:46 You could have peed on my clothes, my bed. You could have did that, but you... Nah, peeing on my bed is crazy. throwing piss in my face I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna lie
Starting point is 01:20:54 I did that I did that all the time now you got a problem but that's out of love I read that in the book and did that I stood up on somebody bed
Starting point is 01:21:02 and pissed all over that bed that's my word cut up some of my shit oh because she cut your shit up yeah okay like I ain't have a key you lucky
Starting point is 01:21:13 I ain't smear shit everywhere but yeah she cut up some nice shit I'm trying You stood on a bed Stood on that bed Peeing on that shit
Starting point is 01:21:23 Video that and all that But as a gentleman You didn't throw piss in her face You just peed on a bed On the pillows All of that That's some gallon shit Yeah
Starting point is 01:21:31 She gotta get new all of that Get everything new That was a good blanket That she used to have a nigga That shit bad silky smooth That shit was a good blake I peed on that And the pillow
Starting point is 01:21:42 Soft-ass pillows Get new shit Yeah Cut my shit up But see that's a retaliation That's a reality action to her cutting up his shit. Now, if she came home and
Starting point is 01:21:52 because Zip found NBA sock under her bed and then he now, he's standing on top of the bed peeing on the bed. He violated. He's wrong for that. Like, yo, that could be anybody's sock, right? Now, only in them NBA niggas get them NBA. That ain't anybody's up, bitch. No, you can buy those on the website.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah. You think she's on NBA.com? Yeah, right. You think she's just an avid fan? Yeah, yeah. She's a Nick fan. Which is why she got the mix. Big, big tube socks. She come up to your knee, bitch.
Starting point is 01:22:23 She's packed your thine. Nigger that had that on is clearly a 16th, thing? What fuck is you doing? We clearly wear a 16. Can you see the signs of that shit? Yo, man. Yeah, no, I ain't gonna lie, homie. That's your bull right there.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Y'all, y'all locked in. No, if you go to... You marry her. Yeah, if you can look past her throwing pissing your face. That's what I'm saying, don't feel wrong. If you look past that, that's your soulmate. What can't you do? He could find.
Starting point is 01:22:48 He could see a video on her phone. having sex with another nigga, he's gonna stay down. Okay, I think that that's a little bit different. Then throwing piss in your face? Some things maybe worse to you and other things maybe worse to other people, Mom. The bitch is in Atlanta. I think there's men that could look at that video and move on.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I don't think there's a man that could get pissed thrown in his face. No. No, he, that's his twin-playing. The thought of her with another nigga would probably crush him. He should just, yeah, he'll deal with the piss. The thought of piss being thrown in my face would crush me. That's you, but not him, obviously. I think that's 98% of us, man.
Starting point is 01:23:19 You throw pissing 90%. We're not going back to that woman. You crazy? Pissing my face. I think niggas are a lot less strict than they pretend to be. Not you. I think you are fully as strict as you are. But a lot of men are a lot less strict as him.
Starting point is 01:23:31 I'm not as strict as him. You think I'm letting a girl throw piss in my face and being like, yo, this is my queen. All right, never mind. Yo, he's going to fight. We're going to fight. We're going to fight. We're going to.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yeah, cool, bro. I believe. I believe, bro. I believe him. I never said nothing. I know. Your silence said everything. I was thinking.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Like, damn, I can't take the time to think wrong this motherfuckin'all fucking script. He got to stay with Shottie, man. He got to stay with don't. Y'all can't leave now because now you forever the nigga that got pissed on your face if y'all break up. She's gonna go tell her,
Starting point is 01:24:00 she's gonna tell her new nigga that she, yeah. Me and my ex-brose. I mean, I found a his sheet. I mean, I thought his girlfriend's no, for sure. She probably had the phone on. Oh, yeah. That's Pissy Pete, whatever his name is. Pissy Pee Pee.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Make sure she can see it. No, his name is Mitch. His name is Mitch. Pissy Mitch. Pissy Mitch. Pissy Mitch. Pissy Mitch from Atlanta. Thank you for calling in, man.
Starting point is 01:24:17 But in a romantic way, there's nothing they can't beat at this point. No matter what anything God throws their way, they'll be able to beat it. Yeah, they can beat the 96 Bulls. That love is forever right there. They don't give a fuck. They locked in. You ever see treacherous twin? They treacherous twins right there.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Real treacherous. Piss in your face and y'all still like this, Valentine's Day, hugged up? Nah. And then have the nervous say, am I bugging? Yeah. Yeah, you all. I'm wild. Yeah, I'm wild.
Starting point is 01:24:45 My home boy could tell me, yo, Shorty, through pissing my face last thing. I'm like, what? Two weeks later, if I see y'all out together, my whole, he, you're a bozo. You might tell on me if some shit go down, too. I don't even want to fuck with you no more. You're a sucker.
Starting point is 01:24:59 You might be a rat. Nah, I feel like it's the opposite. I feel like he'll stay down. I don't do anything. Like, he's too loyal. Yeah. You know, I feel like, I'm too. He's too good.
Starting point is 01:25:10 He ain't going to jelly to leave that pussy out. here you crazy. Yeah, yeah. Now that's the fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He leaving that pussy out of here going to jail. He didn't even tell him. Ain't no way he's going to jail and leave a hundred clean.
Starting point is 01:25:23 That's not happening. He's telling her everybody. If his mom get high, you know, the nigga be serving my mom. She be having it. Yeah, all that. He's telling her everybody. Fuck out of it. I don't trust niggas like that.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Yeah, nah, he's right. He got a valid point. All right. Ironically, I have to piss. So. Well, you always got to piss, man. You Irish. Y'all pissed like every 17 minutes. So it's real good.
Starting point is 01:25:45 All right, well, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. That's it with the drip. Let's get to that. Let's get to that. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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