New Rory & MAL - Episode 490 | Movin' On Up

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

Complex released their 2026 Hip Hop Media Power Rankings List, and the guys react to their ranking, the rankings of their peers, and who missed the cut. Stefon Diggs’ trial wrapped up, as he was found not guilty of assault on his chef, which sparks a discussion on hiring a baddie to be your personal chef. Baby D and Mal discuss the pros and cons of dating a pilot, the guys give some advice to a listener who’s trying to put together the perfect birthing playlist for his girl, and we wrap with a heated debate over bathroom routines. Shoutout to everyone who supported us, and Complex for including us on their rankings! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're working on it and trying to fix it. apologies for the technical difficulty. But we're trying to be international. And I guess that was the price that we paid. But it will be fixed in due time. And we will be international soon. Yes. That as well.

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Soon you'll be able to hear and see it. Yes. Internationally. But how's everyone feeling? How's everyone's week going so far? Great, man. How are you feeling, man? I'm okay. I'm okay.

Coming out off the birthday high. Yeah, you know, dude, just did a little look maxim for my birthday, regular shit. Look maxing, what is that? You're not trending, you don't know. Oh, okay. Those that know, no, no. But yeah, just how you look maxing. Okay.

That's pretty much it. Congrats. How's your week been? My week is good, man. Been chilling. You know what I mean? Me and DeMaris went to Applebee's. This isn't like a plug or anything, but I missed the neighborhood, neighborhood bar.

Oh, you went to the bar to just like... What are we ate at Applebee? Oh, okay. went to the bar. With inflation, it's still not bad. Like, I remember the two for 20s. They still, it's like, what, two for 25 now? Okay.

The inflation is not that crazy. All right. So I'm not mad. And this isn't a plug. I was just like, there wasn't anything around where we're at. And it was either Applebee's. How's it doing? How was it doing?

I didn't participate in that. But the spinach dip is still, still incredible. And you can't go wrong with Applebee's mottes. No. You can't. But. Love a good Applebee. You got a good bartender.

That as well. You know what I mean? But yeah, it's been, been, been, been a week. Yeah. Do we want to get right into it? I mean, that's what we here to do. That's what we do best.

Are we exhausted with lists yet? You know I am. I've been exhausted with lists. Even if we are. I've been exhausted with lists for about four years now. I'm listed out. Complex put out their hip-hop media rank, power rankings for 2026. And again, per usual, like we've been saying for the last three years,

Complex is the greatest platform of all time. And we thank them for including us in the power rankings. Thank you, Jordan. We landed at number seven. Shout out to Jordan. Last year we were at nine. I think the year before that, we were at 12 or 13. I can't remember.

Something like that. I mean, we're going up the ranks. Yeah, man. What do you want from us? Listen, man, thank you to everybody that. I don't know if it's a voting committee or anybody over there at complex, but in particular, thank you, thank you, Jordan. Yeah.

It looks like there's about one, two, three, four, five, six, so like nine people. Oh, okay. So shout out to the whole nine. Yeah. And again, I mean, it's always great to be on these lists. Obviously, it doesn't, like, really define everything. But definitely feel grateful for being acknowledged on the list at number seven. Anytime you acknowledge by, you know, peers and people in the industry, you know, it's a cool thing.

So thanks to everybody that acknowledges us. Thanks to everybody that didn't acknowledge us and thinks to everybody that's upset that we got acknowledged. Yeah. I mean. So part of it. So part of the gumbo of entertainment and industry politics, right? second year in a row that people have made their press rollout about us not belonging on the list. But I mean, hey man.

Who are we to fuck up tradition? Listen, man. You know, I get it. That's part of it too because there are people out there who, you know, echo those sentiments as well. So somebody has to speak for that side as well of, you know, we shouldn't be here or this, that and third. There's people out there that feel that way. So, you know, I'm learning to understand that there's multiple sides of these things. And if there's people that speak to those sides, then, you know, that's not.

part of it. It's unnecessary. We need it. Yes. We all need our dick-suck. Niggas be dick-suckers. My bad. I'm sorry. Did I take it too far? I'm sorry. No, it's fine. Sometimes there's just no self-awareness that you don't realize the things that you're saying are so contradictory to who you are. It's just interesting. But neither here nor there. Love to literally everyone that's on this list.

Shout out everybody, man. Love. Congratulations to everyone on it. Again, it doesn't define you as a media person, but it is nice to be acknowledged. Shout out to Toray. Toray's on there. Shout to Toray. Oh, that's what's up. Shout out to him.

I can't find what number it is, though. Are you sure he's on there, Rory? You just was like, you know, having one of those moments where you're just looking and you thought you saw somebody in. No, I, oh, no, I specifically looked. If we're going to get our hater shit off. Well, no, Toray could have been ranked number 36. I know they only did 35, but Tori could have got that 36 slot. So he's not on there.

No, he's not on there. I hate when Rory has an inside joke in his head. Like, I hate that. I hate like when he works on his like material in a day. I literally, he's like, I can't wait to get this. Like I hate when he does that. Because I'm thinking like, okay, he's on a list.

And I'm, you scrolling and I'm like, I will wear it on a list. Okay, but I see what you did there. I mean, listen, I think a lot of opinion story has are absolutely insane. But I do think with the likes of people like neon and I'm not, honestly, I'm really not here to hate. Just reacting to the list. People that I don't think focus on. hip hop media per se yes you can go on a double date with a rapper on stream I just don't think that really falls into hip hop media and no you know nothing against neon I don't

actually really know much about him whatsoever I know he does a lot of numbers but I do know that he's not hip hop media so I thought that was like I think Toray could have got that slot he actually talks about hip hop in a weird way but he is talking about hip hop in a journalistic way. But other than that, I mean, I think Waino could have been on there. There was a few people that I think deserved to be on there that weren't in some people that I just don't think are particularly hip-hop per se. Listen, man, shout out to everybody that was recognized.

Shout out to the ones that didn't make the list, but should have been recognized. Keep doing what you're doing, keep putting work in. And, you know, one day that the recognition happens. But most importantly, keep doing what you love. Keep doing what you're passionate about. That's what's important to keep doing what you're passionate about. We all are part of this hip hop culture and, you know, whether we like it or not, we all have something to say about it.

So there's that, man. Shout out to Nadeska and Gina. I always want to shout out the women. Shout out Neska and Gina. Shout out Juna for making it this year. I advocated for you to make it last year. Lauren's on there too. Lauren.

Yes, Lauren is on there. I love that. As on her own, not with the breakfast club, but on her own. I love that. Well, well, well deserved. And Gina as well, and Indesca. Definitely both belong on there as well. do you think we could have got that six slot

this isn't white on white hate man it's not I don't I don't I don't I don't think about those things man but I'm here to go back and forth with your thoughts just haven't gone what did you feel about the number six lot I think Anthony Fancano like you know back and forth stuff aside like I I appreciate that he does music reviews because that's kind of a lost thing I feel like in hip hop media now

other like nonsense has taken over but I mean do his reviews ever define like ironically does it push the needle like are we all stopping to really see if Anthony likes it I'm going to go check it out type of thing and I'm sure and I hope this isn't come across as hate I'm really just being unbiased in in that I'm sure he has an audience that does yeah I mean he does a lot a lot of numbers and again I like that he does real music you might not be in the audience but that doesn't mean the audience doesn't exist Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I'm talking like Girl 6 right now.

You've seen Girl 6? The movie Spike Lee? No. No, I've never seen it. She was like a phone sex operator. Remember phone sex? You might be too young. So you, we have FaceTime now.

Right. But no, phone sex. Like when you had to, like, call and your mother got the bill next month and saw that you called some. Yeah, some woman. No. Spikely did a movie by the girl. So you just sounded like her. Oh.

So you think my voice is sexy and worthy of phone phone? No, I mean, that's not your normal. voice. That's why I looked at you like, why are you talking like that? Oh, because I'm calm today. I can't be calm. I'd be calm. I love it. I love the calm energy and a demeanor. But I just had to recognize it and just turn and look like why are you sounding like that right now? Okay. You got brick? No, I didn't. I'm totally like flaccid right now. Smurmy, wormy, but I'm just- I would hope at work that they would be the case. Yeah, like I'm just, you're bricked up at work. It's crazy. No, no, no. I'm not. I'm not doing that.

I thought I made a jump. My bad. No, no, no, no. I'll go back to my regular voice. I just was trying to, you know, just, you know, understand what was happening. But okay. It's all good. Yes. There you. Yeah. Congrats to, uh, to Joe and Jada. Joe, you hate it your way on the list. It worked. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Number four, well deserved. Oh, Joe and Jada. Yeah. Shout out the fat Joe and Jada. Shout out the kiss, man.

They deserve it. Yeah. Definitely put a lot of work. I didn't really. Meadeghers just talking. They had 100 episodes or more than 100 now. They've been consistent. Yeah, damn. I didn't think that. I saw I heard a hundred. I was like time is flying. Shit. I was okay. If you're not working,

shout out to Kiss and Fat Joe. Our 500 is coming up soon by the way. Well, we've passed 500. We're past 500 if you count on Patreon but yeah, officially five,

like our regular episodes. The rest of us now. Are you proud of us? I am proud of everyone. You're proud of us? Yes, for sure. They only gave us six months. And it's our five-year anniversary

coming up too, y'all. That's what I said. They only gave us six months. This month is our, five anniversary. They only gave us six months. You know, every year they seem to be mad that, you know, Complex recognizes us and, you know,

is ranking us on a list amongst the conversation of the people of a complex. Like, you know, listen, man, it's all part of it, man. If I haven't noticed, nobody's getting me upset anymore. I'm not, like. I love that. I just don't have it. I just, because I really, I don't know these people. I'm never going to go back and forth for arguing with that.

I don't know these people. Like, never met them, have no issue with these people. don't know one of these guys, man. But I love everybody that's doing work and is passionate about what they do. You love them? Remember you used to get on me when I used to say that I love people? You don't love them people. No, no, I say I love the people.

I say I love when people are passionate about what they're doing and love what they do. I like that. Like, get upset and be passionate. I don't understand it sometimes. I'm kind of confused because I'm just not, my energy is not there like that. But, you know, it's like, oh, sure. I'm sure somebody feels like that too. Like, you know what I'm here?

That's the beauty of the internet. Yeah. Like, I'm okay. someone to agree or disagree with you any crevice of the internet is right there I just you know shout out to all of the and shout out to the artists and the people that we talk about

shout out to the work that they put out shout out to you know the producers and you know things like that that make this all the ecosystem of hip hop everybody has a role everybody plays a part whether you like the part that they're playing and not that's

subjective I'm not here to you know argue that but you know, number seven it is. Thank you, Complex. It's very, very mature of you, man. Yeah, I like that. I'm proud of the bruce. Hey, man, you know, it's either that or cheese sandwiches

in the clinks, and I'm not doing that. Yo, look at the options. Yeah, it's only one way or another with me. Jesus Christ. There's no in between. Yeah, yeah. I'm on either this side of the spectrum, whatever, so it's just like, let me just stay over here

and drink my ginger tea and, you know, just relax, man. Yeah. Me and Demers. When did Kai, like, fake retire. I mean, I'm always in support. I just wasn't sure if he streamed all this year. After his, the stream

athon, right? The Mafiathon, whatever it's called. Shout out to Bronx legend Kai Sinat. Yeah, he just announced it in January that he was quitting streaming, which we know he wasn't going to quit streaming. We just, we all called it a break.

Let him step away from it. He was passionate about other things. You know, wanted to get into fashion and things like that. And this, you know, Kai is young, man. So it's like, you know, that streaming, and we talked about it, for him to do what he did, that takes so much time and effort and consistency of just being, you know, after a while, you just mentally, you need a break. And so I knew Kai Sinat wasn't done streaming. You can't, that's like, you can't be done. That's what you do. This is who you are. Like, you're one of the greatest that would do that.

But I think a break was necessary. Let him go try other things and find other things that he was passionate about. I just think it was interesting that he saw his ranking on the complex list. and announce the next day, like, oh, no, I'm coming back. I went from number one. He was number one last year. Number one to number 13 this year, I think? Yeah. Something like that?

Number 12. Number 12 this year? Yeah, I don't think. Right behind all on the radar. Yeah, Codden. Like, he didn't like that. He said, whoa, whoa, whoa, y'all got me fucked up. Like, I'm not going from number one to number 12.

Let me come back and do a Mafia Thon 7 for your headtops. Yeah. So he's probably going to stream for six months straight. something that none of you niggas could ever do like Kyle not going to shit he's not going to take a shower he's going to fast for 60 days

on camera no sleep Kyle going to do some unbelievable shit when he come back He's like the guy's like the Gandhi of like streaming Okay Let's see where you're going to land this Yeah he's going to fast

I'm on the plane He's not going to drink water He's not going to eat He just you know for the better cause You know It's all going to be for the better cause of Irish Irish hunger strike is what you're going he going to do something like he's not going to just come back and

start talking to the camera he's not coming back like that you know he didn't come up with a whole newest team got together and they said no this is what we're doing on the comeback kai going to come back he's going you know no no drinking water no eating you know like a 50 when he did that movie yeah kai not going to blink for a week straight he's going to do something incredible on the comeback but he's been playing he's waiting for this moment if he doesn't blink for a week straight complex, please right to the top. Yeah, man. I don't even care if I'm not doing hip-up. None of you niggas cannot blink for a week.

I'm not going to blink for a week. You're not going to show you how he locked in. He's just going to be looking right at the chat. Chat. I'm still not blinking. Day six. No blink. We ain't got time to blink. Might miss something. Might miss something as funny as fuck. Do you guys think they should have paired Jim Jones, May-o Dave Easton-Fab like together?

Because they have Jim Jones at 26, but. Well, Jim has done some, he's done some interviews. Solo. Yeah. He's had some moments and things like that. I just feel like the four of them have gotten like some some Bible clips here and there that were definitely. None of the guys from less rap about it made it?

No, not that I saw. Okay. So maybe because Jim has probably made it more of a thing where he's sitting down one-on-one with guests and things like that. But shout out to Jim too, man. You know, shout out to anybody that made the list, man. Happy for everybody, man. Do your things.

Do your things, everybody. Do what you think we got to do to be number one? I don't know, Demaris. I couldn't even, I don't know. I'm not going to not blink for a week straight. I'll tell you that. That's not going to happen. So, you know.

And he's still in my floor. If Kyle come back and juice it. What if Kyle juicing? I was the first nigga on the streams juicing. That's true, yeah. You were. I don't have been doing that. They used to say that was like your flu game whenever you would use.

He was just hungry and funny. Yeah, but, you know, Kyle going to come back. He's going to try to, you know. Yeah, but sometimes that's the problem of being, you know, the first one through the door gets shot. Like, you know. The first generation of hip hop, they got fucked over so the next generation could profit. You're doing that with the juice.

No, even the next generation got fucked over too. It was a couple generations for the niggas got paid. Kai can't juice longer than me, though. Look at what niggas want to compete with. Yeah, Ka can't. He don't want that problem. Kyle can't, he can't go. But he's going to dance while he's juicing, though.

You just be sitting in the chair. Not exactly. I'd be doing fucking somersaults and car wheels. Yeah, Kyle might. With Lizzo. Yeah, he might start wrestling. wrestling somebody on stream while he's juicing. He might take it to him.

Yeah, I'm not doing that. Yeah. Gotta be very calm when you juicing. But shout out the cop, man. If he is coming back, shout out the cops or not. Drewsey's going to dress up as you next to him on the stream. I could already see it. All right.

Let's be messy. Who y'all think is too high? Who y'all think is too low? All right. I'll let you have it. I know Roy Med-Dy and say something. No, I don't know. I don't like, I don't have a huge, strong, like,

strong opinion about the media list like that, to be honest. Okay. Because I think it's very, It's very similar to rapper list at this point because I think everyone on this list for the most part has their own community. Of course, things overlap and viral moments happen, but everyone kind of has their own blame for the most part. Like if you're into more of the journalistic shit, you have Rob Markman right there. If you want some messy shit, you got some messy people on there. So I don't know there's anyone that I would like completely move.

I mean, Cam is sports, but Cam still. you know, if he's beefing with Dane, we'll get some hip-hop stuff there. But, I mean, I guess you could make an argument that Cam is maybe 1% hip-hop and 99% sports. Okay. But he is still Cam, so everything he does. I feel like he's hip-hop. Bullet Keb should be higher. I agree.

I said that last year, too. Kev, I think, should always be. Then 17, he definitely needs to be higher than seven. What was Kev last year? I feel like he was higher than that last year. Kev, last year ranking was 21. So at 17 now. Yeah, but I felt Kev should have been higher last year as well.

Kev, he has one of my favorite platforms. It's cool to see guys like Big Bank up there. I like to see that. He had a big moment with Thug. Yeah. I remember when that drop, he definitely died. That was the most viral video. Yeah, that was that.

Yeah, he was all over the algorithm when that drop. And outside of that, like, of course, because it was Thug and was everything going on, he conducted a really, really, really good interview. Yeah. Like, that was some journalists. shit the way he handled that that entire thing so good good to see big bank up there phrase love coming off to the jzy interview um yeah it's really it's really kind of just neon is the one that i'm like yeah i don't know i mean if you're gonna have shannon sharp up there you got to have cam

newton up there that's just my my take on that is but is is it hip hop just if you interview someone that happens to rap and not even talk about rap what's so perfect you got shannon sharp up there you got to have cam newton up there okay yeah You got Shannon there. Or we could just not have Shannon there. That's what I'm saying. If you're going to have Shannon there, I think that Cam needs to be somewhere.

Cam Newton needs to be somewhere on that list, no? Why did they say he was there? Didn't he have a, he had, did he have Meg this year? Was that last year? I think that was last year. Sharp has an ability to get deeply personal interviews out of his subjects. And while he's more of a general list than most on this list,

Many of his best conversations involve rappers, whether it's his bad shit Kevin Gates interview or his revealing chat with G Herbo. His team chops up clips and post them all over his IG creating enough conversation. You could learn plenty from the highlights alone. I don't know, guys. I'm just saying, you know. And shout out of Shannon, but hip-hop. I would have to, like, just go through the whole list of what he did for the year as far as guess. I do remember the Kevin Gates one.

I don't remember the G-Hirbo one like that. But I don't know. Again, like I watch Shannon, depending on the guest. I'm not super tapped into everything that's on Club Shay-Shay. So I don't want to speak like I know that he shouldn't or should not be on that list. Trappler Ross, I think, is an incredible researcher, puts together really interesting documentaries on YouTube. but is he crime or hip hop? He's crime in hip hop.

Okay. Just because you do an amazing documentary on serial killers that they just happen to rhyme words together. Yeah. Does that make a hip-hop? Yeah. It's part of it. He ain't, he ain't talk about one song in the King Vaughn documentary. There's other things that talk about.

It's still hip-hop. Still hip-hop. He's covering all corners of hip-hop, not just the music. You're going to touch into the meaning behind the music. The words behind the music. I went to click the NBA Young Boy Baton Rouge video he did, and I didn't learn one song. I just know that there's a crime wave in Baton Rouge that is absolutely insane.

Do you know any King Vile songs? Yeah. Not like I wouldn't know what to type in, but if you play the King Bond, oh, yeah, I know this. A strip of a bit, she, you know, took it to the O? Yeah. Okay. That's unfortunate for her.

listen man it's a classic song no vaughn had some songs they played that as soon as you land in chicago then they play that in the airport the oh hair take it to the old as soon as you touch down they're playing that hell yeah I don't know if that's what von was

no he was a different old he was so about he's more of a midway airport guy he's closer to that take it at the old year oh hair airport is fucking hilarious That's actually very funny. But no, I do appreciate with Trap. Sometimes I think he goes a little extra and a little outside the lines.

Like when he was doing the big U shit, wearing the gang shit on his hat, and like I think that's a little much, but he does great research. I just sometimes I think it's an odd thing to be so obsessed about is black people killing black people. It's a strange thing to dedicate your life to researching. Different strokes for different folks. Yeah, always. It always will be. The English, man.

I don't know what to tell you. But again, shout out to Complex. Shout out to everybody over there. Salute to Jordan. And yeah, man, looking forward to the work we put in this year and next year climb a little further up that ladder and see what else people got to be mad about next year. No, Angela Yee.

Really? And I think her show does numbers. She has viral moments. She has good interviews. I think Angela Ye deserves to be on this list. She was on it last year as well. I think pretty high. And I think Angela stayed consistent, in my opinion.

What about Angie? No Angie Martinez? No Angie either. Which I thought like, I feel like Angie's just so much like on the Mount Rushmore. Like no matter what, she should be dead quiet for a year. And she still, to me, deserves to be. you on a list, sway as well. Yeah.

Like those are just people that are staples, no matter if they retire today, they're still hip-hop power ranking, in my opinion. But I was shocked at Angeli. I think she deserves to be on there. Even the stuff that she does with BDOT and Mayno, when they come on the show, when Kaz goes on the show,

like I think her show, I kind of preferred the split with the breakfast club. I think Angela is great by herself. And I think what they did at the breakfast club is great as well. I'm just kind of shocked. She's not there. No Mello, 7 p.m. in Brooklyn. Now, if you have Shannon Sharp, I would say that Mello should be up there.

Yeah. Had an amazing call interview. He had fucking J. Cole on. Like, I was going to say I had an amazing Cole interview. Yeah, like what? No Mello? Like, they're fucking fucking with Mello? Yeah. They're probably going to try to say that.

It's more of a sports platform. But again, I mean, I think Shannon, I think Mello may interview more rappers than Shand Sharp. No, it ain't may. He definitely talks more hip hop than Cameron. Yeah. Both had J-Co interviews. That's probably like the most hip-hop, both of their platforms that had.

And I think Mello probably does more than that. I'm wishing 7 p.m. in Brooklyn, definitely. Shout out to Frasier. Frazier's on there number 14. He had the J. interview. So yeah, you got to go Mello. Mello had J-Cole. Yeah.

I'm saying. Mello got to be up there, man. Mello got to get some love on that list next year. Shout to Mello on Kass 7 p.m. in Brooklyn. I mean, Mero's, up there and, you know, just getting his hot 97 show up and running. But I mean, when him, Kaz and Mello are together on that show, it's a hip-hop show. Yeah. It's definitely not a sports one, but, you know, congrats to Elliot Wilson on his twins. Yeah. I mean, number 32,

Elliot obviously, you know, was preparing for that and everything. I think Elliot, you know, is going to focus for the remainder of the year. And I think 2027 Elliott's going to get back in the mix. Yeah, he's got twins now, man. You got It's different at home now Having twins at that age, you got some strong sperm, yo, that's what's up. You would think, like, when you get older, you won't be able to produce multiples?

You wouldn't think that? Shoot, no, meal. I don't know, I don't know where he went. Okay. No, listen, I don't know. I don't know him in Elliot's relationship. I don't know. I was relying on what she said.

I don't know. No, I've never been at the clinic with Elliot. Okay. No, I'm just saying, like, you would think if you get older, like, you know what I'm saying, like, you lose, like, you know, sperm strength, but like, no. Your sperm count is low. Yeah, but he's shooting twins at like 55, like.

Yeah, Elliot's 55? I have no idea how old. I put 55 on him. Yeah, you put an Elliot at 55? How is Elliot? 55, nailed it. Hey! Oh, shit, 55, Elliot, yeah.

Twins at 55. Yeah, that's like hitting a half court shot at the garden during the halftime. Yeah. You get twins at 55? It's scary. I mean, congrats to him. I would just be, I'd be terrified. I would be like, excuse me?

Like, soon as this doctor- Like two? We're having twins? Yeah. You know, I kind of noticed that unless I grew up with you or went to school with you, I don't like know my male friends age. That's just like not a conversation you have with your male friends.

Yeah. Like unless I know what grade, like we weren't a grade together. I know we're close. But if I met you after 22 years old, I don't know your- Yeah, if I met you as an adult, I don't know your age.

I definitely probably don't know your age. Like I'm... Unless you announce it like on your birthday. Yeah. And I'm terrible with remembering birthdays. Don't even tell me your birthday. I know everyone in Palooza's birthday just because I booked the flights. Like I've memorized everyone's birthday.

But even then I found out, I was like, damn, y'all are old. I feel like if we were in high school together, we're the same age. I don't know because that like 14 to 18 gap. Well, I guess it depends when the four years is. Yeah. But now if I, if we still, if we're hanging out and I'm 35 and 30. It's like 17 to 21. That's a difference for sure.

Because you're out of high school. Yes. That's what I'm saying. If we are in high school together, we're the same age. I don't know. Y'all told me, y'all told me that the seniors I was dating when I was a freshman are creepy. So no, they're not the same thing. They're 100% are.

Adam, just with puberty happening in those years. Yeah. The difference between seniors. It's creepy. But like the freshman look like children when they walk in that first day compared to with seniors drastically different as a puberty. I don't know. I was sick, but I hear you.

Well, women go through puberty before us. We still look like pipsqueat's when we're 14. Yeah, senior dating the freshman is just like, what's up with you, man? What are you doing? Listen, she's mature for age. She can't even relate to guys. Yes, but again,

congrats to Elliot Wilson on the birth of his twins. No, Adam 22. Oh. Debated. Oh, I thought, oh, I did. So, you could take that. at all. No, leave it. I thought we were clapping. I mean, we've debated this the past few years that he has been on it. I feel like

Adam's platform shifted from what he was doing with like the underground soundcloud. Adam was one of the, you know, first people to interview some of the bigger artists before they got a big break. But his platform shifted to like reality TV gang violence. Like, it's baddies, but for gang members. Yeah. And I don't know if that's hip hop. I think that's. It's actually kind of wild if you would consider that hip-hop. Okay. So he shifted a little bit.

Yeah, I mean, his entire platform, I feel, is not really music-focused like that. Which is, I mean, whatever. He has a niche. Some other people on this list who's platforms are not music-focused. You just talked about trap, low-rose. Right? Well, I don't know if the gang members that Adam interviews also rap. NBA Young Boy rap.

Yeah, no. Very successful. Yes. Gang Vaughn wrapped. Mm-hmm. But I could make a case that Wack 100 should be on here. I get why Adams not, but Wack controls a whole platform. Like, we may not be on Clubhouse like that,

but Clubhouse is still a very, very active platform that, yes, maybe it's a lot of paperwork parties and not super music focused, but Wack talks music a lot. Mm-hmm. You may not like his takes, but he controls a whole platform. Yeah, for sure. So, you know, I'm not saying maybe top 10 because WAC, like, being a media personality isn't even really his job. It's just something that he does as well.

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But I did see Some clips of her on the stand Stefan Diggs was charged with felony strangulation and a misdemeanor assault and battery. The accusations are from his former personal chef says that he slapped and choked her during an argument in December 2025. He denied the allegations and the trial has started. I did see they dug up a video of her dancing after the alleged assault. And I've been told she sounds kind of nuts on the stand.

Is that the case? Yes. And the trial's over. Okay. And what was the final? He's been found not guilty. Okay. Got it.

Where do we think this can't? Because they said that they were intimate at some point, too. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So is it a result of that maybe? I think my miss was trying to get a payday. He ain't, he ain't take it. He ain't, like, so ended up at trial.

But I don't know why a lawyer would take this case. That's what confused me. But where's the, I don't know, that's such a short, short-minded goal. Like, if you're his chef, why wouldn't you just, your payday would just being a full-time chef? that you could do for years and years. Yeah, but if you having sex with your chef,

it gets different. Now you don't want to work. You don't want to keep a professional. Lines are blurred. Then I end up saying, okay, well, you're not cooking for me no more. I'm not paying you anymore. Now you're upset. You're trying to get more money out of me because I fired you

and whatever, whatever happens. And now we end up at trial, you know, like. Don't shit where you eat literally, though. Yeah. Like. Yeah, but that's what happens. Especially we've, we can safely assume that Stefan did, has been a little promiscuous in his life.

Fair to say. Yeah. Responsibly, whatever. If you have that many hose, wouldn't you not want to fuck your chef so she could cook for you in the hose? But you ain't never had some food that made you look at it. It's like, ooh, wait a minute. After I get this, I'm eating this plate. I'm going to eat your ass.

You ain't never had no food like that. Hmm. I have. Look at more. More. What? You went out, you had a flash. Back?

Just, you know, I just thought about what you said. That's all. Just thinking about what you said. That's it. You know, definitely had a plate like that before. Well, I mean, I'm glad that the truth did come out. Again, from what I've seen that this seems to be. I'm here to say it.

The movement is starting. Oh, God. The men too movement has started. You and Stephen A. Smith are starting this? No, the men too. The men too. Men too. Men too.

Okay. Men too. I'm just saying. I think the days of niggas just settling and, you know, paying out of court, like, just to just let the situation go away. I think a lot of dudes is going to start looking at this like, yo, that shakedown shit is over with. Like, I'm not getting shaken down just because I don't want to go to court and don't want to have to go through all of that shit. I hear you. I just think a lot of those people that settled were guilty.

I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I think we just run into cases like what happened with Hove where it's like, nope. Nice fucking try. Stefan Diggs obviously would have the money to settle But if you did not assault a woman No fucking way I'm about to settle with you It's different with Stefan because he's a high profile athlete

Yeah You know Jay Z's a married, successful Artist, entrepreneur businessman But he's a little older He's a Stefan is still active young NFL star Yeah So I think a lot of the guys around You know other athletes are gonna start looking at that

Like yeah hell no Like I'm not getting shake down for that For some shit that I'm like nah fuck that. So yeah, man, I'm just saying, pay attention to what happens from here on out when it comes to these athletes and these, you know, these young guys, you know, getting these accusations put on them. Like, I just think that a lot of these guys are going to start to approach this thing just a little differently as a result of this. Yeah. And I mean, it's, it's unfortunate, too, for the people that are innocent, but settle because of the PR image of it all. Like, a lot of times you'd see a

headline, Stefan Diggs, arrested for assault. And then that's what 90% of the people are only going to see. They'll never see the acquitted. They'll never see. So forever brands, teens would just have in their head. Like, wait, isn't that the guy that didn't he hit a girl or something? Exactly. So I do understand that part of like, this is bullshit that I have to settle and this is extortion.

But in the long run, it could suck even more if I have this on my jacket, even if I beat the case. So I get both sides of that. But I do like what he did, what Hove did. If you didn't do this type of nasty shit, hell, No, no. I'm not. Let's go to court. It's not an NDA in the world that could make me feel okay about that.

If you think, were, you saying I did that to you? Okay, well, let's get your lawyers, get your team. And we can present it to the court and then have our day and we'll see what the court says. That's when you know you ain't got none of that shit on you. When you know you walk with a certain morality and certain moral compass and you're just like, that's not who I am. I'm not doing that. Yeah. If I hate when shit like this happens because it's like you get.

people who actually have a case just more. You make us look crazy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's another part of it. I hate that shit. Like, you make us like fucking crazy. Which obviously one woman doesn't speak for all women, which I've said that a million times.

But it's like, now you're just another reason for someone to doubt real victims. And that's just corny. No, I hear you. I mean, like even, you know, back to the justice someone that shit, it's like, you're really fucking over people that are actually victims of hate crimes. Right.

But, and maybe I'm being naive and romanticizing logic of human beings, but I feel like what Hove did didn't I don't think that stops a real victim from wanting to go to court with their abuser. Like that Hove case...

Oh, wait, wait. Like when Hove, I mean, obviously they put all the information that made no fucking sense. He wasn't even in the same place as the girl. Like she... Oh, that. Nothing matched whatsoever. I don't think any real victim saw Hove win that case based off clear

and sheer fucking evidence said this was a shakedown and went, no, I'm not going to, I now don't want to take my abuser to court. But I could be wrong. Oh, no. I very much could be wrong. I don't know. But yeah, I hear you.

And even this case, again, from my understanding, people are saying she sounded insane up there. Like, it was clearly. Well, the lawyer had proof of her getting paid. You know, she said she didn't get paid. There was video of her dancing and things like that after she said he was assaulted. Now, to be fair, you know, even that could be a, a little misleading because I know people that have been in abusive relationships and you would

never know. Yeah. Very true. They seem very happy. You go over to the house. You know, the couple seems like they're in love, this, and then, you know, you leave. Everybody leaves the game night. Something happens.

He ends up putting hands on her for whatever reason. It's just like you would never know that people are going through that, is what I'm saying. So, you know, to me, the video of her dancing after. It doesn't really mean anything. To me, I didn't really care about that because I obviously. Like I said, I've known people that were in abusive relationships, but you would never be able to tell. Oh, for sure. But the fact that, you know, they had proof of her getting paid and she said she wasn't paid.

I think to me that was kind of late. When Shorty was like, what's your name? I said, oh, you got to get your lie game up. You can't let him catch you off guard with it. Like, yeah. I mean, you don't think Johnny Depp started the, the MENT II movement? It was different for Johnny Depp, though, because he's not from our culture. Okay.

So it's different. Now on a bigger scale in the Hollywood I'm sure he shook up a lot of things And people were like oh shit Like Johnny came out of that Like damn he was going through something crazy But in our culture You know we we so used to guys going through shit like this

And then they pay for it to just go away Not go to court they settle out And then they're rewarded with you know Awards and you know Things like that And you know what I mean Yeah Looked at as a culture as somebody that's so significant

And so powerful and so much important. And it's like, this nigga got nasty shit on his jacket, though. Yo, Johnny Depp, the whole trial did not look at her. Yeah. That's the energy. That's the energy you're going to go like, you can't even look me in my fat. I won't even look at you. Was it defensive, bro? I forgot who asked him, like, is it true that you said you would never look at her again? And the whole time, he just going like this on the stamp. Like, I'm never looking at her again. Never. Like, she's dead dead to me. Like, I will never look at that woman again. That's the type of energy you have when a

woman is trying to do something like that to you and you know that none of it is true. That's the type of energy you walk with though. Like you can't even look me in my face and I would never give you the respect of looking you in your face. Yeah. I respect that from Johnny Debt. I still have to watch that full documentary. That's on Netflix, right?

Yeah. Johnny Depp one? Yeah, I have to watch that. That's kind of messy though because there are some, a lot of people that believe he got away with some of that stuff on technicalities. Okay. There was some stuff that really wasn't fully covered and because it was a defamation. But people always feel like that about.

about cases. Oh, nah, the technicality. It's just then and the third. It's like, okay. But you say that when it's like the person got off. Yeah. But then if the person is found guilty and they're saying, oh, well, they didn't really prove what I did. It's just that women do go through shit like this. So some men fall victim to that too. Yeah. Well, it's like it wasn't proven that I ever did this to her. I did that. So, you know, it's two sides of it. I'm just saying with things like what Stefan went through, you know, just some of the lies that she, was caught in, I think, is what hurt her case and her lawyer's defense. Yeah.

Yeah. I hear that. God bless all parties involved. Man, you know how we do. Pray is all involved, even though we ain't praying. And what's black people pray? Why is it that black people prayer is always, I'm praying for you? That's as far as the prayer go.

They better hope God was listening when they said that because that's the only, that's as far as the prayer go. I don't know that's a black people. I think that's just a Christian thing in general. Yeah, he ain't praying for you. I'm praying for you. No, you're not. Ma, when a last time you pray for somebody?

I pray every night. Last time you prayed for somebody. Last night. Who you pray for? My friends, my family. So you don't do like specifics. Like, you don't say them, I hope I'm Mary beat this cancer. If it's a situation like that, yeah.

Okay. Mall just be doing shout-outs in his head before, but, yeah. Yo, shout out to my mom and my sister. God, yo, shout out to my nephew. It was a good day. Thank you. You pray for us? Yeah, I just said friends and family.

We friends? I spent more time with Rory in the last 10 years than I've spent with my entire family. That chucks out, yeah. You think that me and Rory are not like, you think I don't like Rory, this is not my friend. You would like somebody and not be your friend. You can like somebody and not be your friend. You cannot be around somebody the last 12 years the way me and Rory have been around each other and not be friends. On the road every goddamn day.

It's, yeah. I see him more than I see my family, my blood. Are you kidding me? Like, not saying I'm having to. happy about it. Like, I'm not saying that either. Yeah, clear that up for sure. I love Rory. I knew what you were going with. I was it. I'm not saying I'm happy that I spend more time with him than anybody else in my life.

But it's just like, you know, that's what it is. So absolutely. Like, that's my guy. That's my brother. So we're friends. Like, we're all friends. Peach, hold my hand. Pete is sick. Now you're sick. That's how, that's how Gobert got the NBA shutdown. It was that right there. That move right there. The entire NBA shut down because Rudy Gobert did exactly where you and P's just did. entire NBA

Yeah Entire NBA was shut down And the bubble Rudy Colbert created the bubble season That was Rudy Goldberg Or end up being a chef And Stefan situation right there Man

You saw it on camera That's why you can't hire no You know cute chefs man He know when he hired that girl He saw that ass He knew you go fuck Come on now You ain't give a fuck about that girl's steak

You face nice little body Fuck that steak them come upstairs put that shit in the crock pot and uh low eight hours yeah come over here in this motherfucking man cave and me tear that ass up what's wrong with niggas by you that's my chef i'd be like yeah all right chef huh she was most qualified chef that's your that's your chef i know chefs chefs don't look like that don't do that you could be a five i've seen listen it's a difference between a chef and a woman that can cook all right okay we're not doing that i know chefs well

Drea's in culinary school right now. Gordon Ramsey don't look shit. Gordon Ramsey ain't got ass like that. Drea is in culinary school. Who? Drea. Lord, listen. Dreya about to become a chef? Yeah, she's in culinary school.

Listen, first of all, that's fire. Shout out to Drea for doing that. Wait, all right, but I got to ask with. Oh, and Victoria Monet just graduated from culinary school. But Victoria, she's engaged, married? No. Divorced. They were never married.

Oh, okay. I thought they were engaged. Her baby daddy broke up. Okay. So Victoria Monet is single, but as far as we know. As far as we know, yes. Just a Grammy Award winner. She is now a college, she graduated for culinary school,

so she's on her way to being a chef. Can sing, can dance, it can cook. But here's my thing with Victoria Monet and Drea. If you only have that many hours of being a chef, I think it's great if you can graduate from culinary school. I'm sure you're a great chef. But you've got to put the hours in as well. coming out of culinary school, your rate can't be that crazy.

But you're also Dreia and Victoria Monet. So are they fresh out of school chef rate? Or is it a Victoria Monet rate? Listen, man. Which rate to hire you as a chef is it at? Dreia being a chef is like Shaq being able to shoot 90 from the free throw lines. She bought the average 60. Like, you crazy.

Dreia being a chef? Man, that's like making Jordan 6'10. You would never lose. But people would book Drea to cook craft macaroni and cheese for fucking 5K an hour. But just because you go to culinary school doesn't automatically mean that you want to get into being a chef. Same as if you go to nursing school, it doesn't automatically mean you want to become a ICU nurse. Sometimes you could go into staffing. Sometimes you can go into consulting.

Like there's different avenues you can go into. I don't see Victoria Monet nor fucking Drea being someone's personal chef. No, I can see Drea doing like cooking content that's taken seriously because she graduated from culinary school. Now, Victoria could really fuck him up, though. She become a personal chef for Beyonce for the Carter's. Honey, Beyonce in the kitchen just talking shit and just she cooking? They cooking in the kitchen and in the studio? That album going to be crazy.

What? That album going to be crazy. And then Dre, you get Dre in the kitchen with, you know, Wimby. Oh my God We'll be going to win 12 rings Leave that young soul That untainted soul When be going to win 12 rings

If Dreya's his chef Dreia isn't a happy relationship I'm not saying she's not I'm just saying It's going to motivate Wembe on a different level knowing that he has Dreia as his chef Stefan Diggs has an opening Yeah I don't know if

Put in Dreia and Stefan digs together is crazy So sick though I can see it happening Same. Stefan, the illus niggins. Dre is so sick too, I can see it happening. Stefan is the illest nigga. I can definitely see Stefan doing that. Yo, I just heard you just got your culinary degree and all that.

Stove is mad cold over here. What are we doing? You know, that's how Stefan is going to shoot it. Just so happens I have an opening. Yeah, yeah. You can't. Them two can't link up. That's like Nazza and Jay linking up.

Like, you can't. When it comes to holes, you can't, they can't link up. It's going to be way too much fun. Ain't shit going to get cooked or done. That'll get. That'll get Kai to number one if he does the Marathon stream with them two. With Dre and Stefan did?

What? Yeah, he's right back to number one. He'd get Kyle right back to the top of the list. Not a single rap talked about. Still number one. It's funny because I thought about going, I think I told her, I thought about going to culinary school.

It's just that that schedule is so like, it's crazy, man. I mean, if we ever get to retire, if that day ever exists. If it ever, if it ever happened. I mean, I think I sign my soul dotted line period. But if I do ever get to retire, That is one of my goals in retirement.

Yeah. It's to do something like that. I want to go to culinary school and I want to get my pilot license. Okay. Okay. I want to do that. I want to fly planes. Not commercial, maybe not commercial, but I just want to have my pilot's license.

Yeah, it's one of my pilot's license. Those guys are like retired Navy pilots. Not all. My whole boy, my own way that went to high school with. He's a pilot for, I forgot about airline. That nigga definitely didn't go to the Navy. Yeah, no, I didn't do that. I could see you in a little Sessna

cruising over the Bronx. That's fine, right? Take my girl up like, we're going on a date to Jamaica and I'm flying. Come on, fan. Y'all niggas, you know, y'all, stream? Let me stream that. First date, we're going to Jamaica.

I'm flying, though. She don't even know. She thinks we're going to JetBlue, not happening. You know how motherfucking mad, I would be if a niggas said he was taking me to Jamaica and we go and get on this little ass plane and he's driving or flying? That wouldn't be.

Yeah, that's cool as shit. You sucking him the whole way to Jamaica, nigga, do that. No, nigga, get us there safely. I don't like nobody doing that. He's a pilot. That's like, I'm not trusting Peas to cook if I didn't know Pease could cook. If I didn't know Pee's could cook, I'm not trusting Pee's to Cook. You don't know.

You don't know. You don't know none of them niggasat all kind. You ain't know none of them niggas that got you there. That's true. So now we're on a date. You don't know I got my power license. I'm saying, yo, what's something? We go to Titoboro instead of fucking JFK.

You're like, what would we doing? You see me low. in the plane. You're like, wait, you got a pilot. Yeah, I'm a pilot. I would be terrified. I'm not going to lie. I would be terrified. Cucci wax. Cut it out. Show me your group chat as soon as you find out. Show me. Show me you texting the group chat as soon as you find out. All your girls hate. My group chat is going to be y'all, you pray for me this nigga saying he's flying. Obviously, you see he's a pilot. Like he had the fucking. Yeah, but we had three mimoses before we got out here. I didn't know you was the one flying. Oh, no, that's different. Like, if y'all

drinking in and you see he about it like that's, I mean, that's, I'm talking about y'all. I'm talking about y'all. the car going to the airport you think you're going to JFK. He'd take you to a private airport and you get on this little ass plane put y'all put your luggage in there and you're like oh you're the pilot like yeah I'm a pilot. If we just start dating shirt, if it's a nigga that I've been dating for like six months eight months and I know him well. Nah, I know.

You were sneaking out getting a pilot hours in? No, I'm not. That's fine. That's gangster. No, no. For like a just getting to know someone yet. That would be Yeah, that's a nice surprise. Mall's really good at guessing weights too. So you know you be safe. I know what side of the plane you got to sit on.

Yeah. I'm like, he could probably just grab your luggage. You know exactly what that shit is. You won't 37. Sit over there. Put your carry on over here. Put your luggage on this side.

Gangster. You're not not going. You're not going to Jamaica? No, I'm going, but I'm going to be here. You're overly going. You ain't never met a nigga that can fly a plane. You too much. You, to me, I'm going.

I know you going. I'm going. But a girl play you're going. She was like, all right, come on. Like, we're going to go to. And I'm thinking the whole time like, oh shit, Shorty, she booked the trip. Like, all right. We get to the airport and she's the pilot.

I would think she was a DEI hire, but. Definitely DEI. But, you know, we still support that. I'm definitely going to Turks if Shorty's flying. What you think I'm going to be like, nah, I don't trust you? Yeah. I don't trust. I would have to see the license.

You don't like women driving you. You don't trust women drivers. Yeah, a pilot is different, though. Uber. and don't drive me, but you can fly me, though. Yeah. It's a different attention to detail. Like, once I see her put the headphones on

and she start talking to the control tower, she know what she doing. She knows what she read the tail number. C7, nine, eight one on our way to Turks. I'm like, oh, this bitch is gangster. Once she starts running, I'm like, oh, she know what she doing. We're going. Nigger what?

Stream, that's a stream. If there is any pilot. If there's any pilots listening to this, slide in our DMs. Once she starts saying Cactus 1A, I'm like, oh, all right, cool. We are. Come on, man. Look at what it takes for you.

Yeah, like, I'm getting right on that flight. Like, it is what it is. And if we go down and fuck it, that's the way I went out. It's romantic. Your mom-inid chick, she was a pilot. Yo, they was going to Turks. Bad weather. Like, look how I go out.

God happy. Yeah, like, fuck it, man. Fuck it. He met show you. Shorty was a pilot. My niggas ain't never dated no pilot. She, I mean. None of my homies ever dated a pilot.

Yeah, I'm going out like that. She was. a pilot but did not check weather very well. Yeah, it's all right. D.I. It's a D.I. It is what it is. No worries. What is, what if, Shorty could, like, drive a boat? What you mean? Driving a boat. Like how Meg drive the boat or?

No, no, no. Like, she's getting the sales up. Oh, Sam. Gangster. That means she had a father in her life. Gangster. That is true, yes. Yeah. Those are all green flags. Those ain't red flags. She know how to raise the sale on the ship. This is an asset. We need to keep her around. If my homie got a girl and she know how to sail and they break up, I'm mad at my homie. She ain't do nothing, bro.

It was you. She's a sailor. How you lose that? Like a chick that knows how to sail? She can sail a boat. It knows like longitude latitude. Oh, nigger. How you lose that?

She got like the microscope on the map. Yeah. Like she can actually sail the seven seas. And you let her go? What the fuck? We could weather any storm. Yeah. Like, how did you, how do you lose a woman that knows how to sail a she's?

Yeah, you're the problem. Get the fuck. It's you, bro. It's you. It's definitely you're the problem. We've got to just be real with each other. Demaris, if you can bring a guy in here, he's like, oh, he's a pilot. You know what I'm like, okay, da-da-da.

And y'all flying private around the world. He got his own little Sessna and you come in here and y'all broke up. I'm, it's you. It's me. It's you. It's you. I don't tell me what he did. What if he beats me?

What are you going to cry in the Mazda or the Sessna? Oh, my. What's going to cry in the Ben? or the plane. Men, two moving. Full effect. Like, you're going to cry on the bends or the plane. Which one?

I'm just saying, you got to pick your battles, man. The niggas is a pilot. He's a pilot. Like, what are we talking about? I never knew more how to pilot kink. Like, this is like what fighting is out in real time. I'm just, you don't meet pilot. When have you ever met a pilot?

No, anytime I get on Delta, I look right at the pilot and go, you know what? He can hit a woman. I'm fine with that. Come. I understand. This nigga had to do L.A. three-time. LA and back three times today.

He'd go home, no food. I can understand how things got a little crazy. Two turnarounds in one day. Yeah, like that man ain't supposed to go home to no cold stove. I don't know if you're just going to clear this up. He just drove 1600 niggas to LA today. He flew 1,600 people to L.A. today. He came home.

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like knowing how to like work cars and shit like that. You want to work like in the pit? I want to work in the pit. I think that shit is so cool. I was watching this. I don't know if you move fast enough to work in the pit though. I'm sad. You should have fast some people who have to move?

I know, but shoot, they work out and they work at it. That nigga would be 36th on the pole fucking with the match. She's like, where is the bolts? you all right move man move move move move move move niggas gonna be like move move move move move see in the marriage try to crank that shit yeah like move move move move move first of all they have like this nigga that slip back 30 30 30 places 30 positions

fucking with this thing in the man doing like the she was in the pit and she had like the knee pad times like she like slid to the car it looked so cool demaris I want to set up a camera and put a fake pit right here and just see how fast we're just gonna put bolts over here schools over. Just see how fast you can... I was just about to say, I'll sacrifice

my own car for that content. I want to see how fast you think you can move. Just change a flat. Matter of fact, that's what we're going to do. Take one tie off the car. We'll have it jacked up and everything already. You just got to put the tire on. One tire. Okay. I want to see how fast DeMaris can do that.

Now, granted... No, does she have the drill shit that NASCAR has? That's what I'm saying. They got a drill. I have in my car when I get a flat. Because if you got the little drill, you're all right. Just pulling... I know drill. You got the regular, but I'm just saying we'll take that into account.

I still want to see how much time it was. Because it shouldn't take more than, let's say it's for DeMaris, two minutes to do that. But I could see, even with the gas, she'd be like, $5 a gallon. Like, no, we're trying to win the race. No, we're trying to win the race. I don't know. I always thought that was so cool. Like, I want to get into, like, Grand Prix and, like, all of that, like, racing shit.

Like, I think that's, like I said, I wanted to go to the Kentucky Derby. Like, just, yeah. I had a friend make a joke, and he was like, you had a gambler. problem. I can see your ass going and bed on dogs. Like, you down bad. You be at the Greyhound track? You're betting on dogs. You have a problem.

You have a problem. You have a problem. Betting on dogs? I don't feel. What's up, man? And at those tracks, like, you don't even, like, at least the horses, you like, you get some background on. The dogs, you just be like, yo, three. Yeah. Like, you bet on dog.

And them niggas be at the track all day long. Yep. I'm like, fam, you've been here for 13 hours just betting on dogs. Oh shit Yeah I'm glad that was never like a vice of mine's gambling No I couldn't do it I'm too emotional Yeah man that's I knew I didn't like gambling

I gamble one time at the casino And when that lady got up and my money had to stay at the table I didn't like that feeling at all No My money just gone that's it like Yeah go back to your room When they just casually take your chips Like it's a it's a you in your eyes

It's a you know at all Like you put the money down and you roll some shit in the number don't hit and they just get that little cane and pull your money and you like your nigger don't even look at you he'd be like His eye on the dice the whole time. This this nigger's wrong. He lost Fah you got to look at me and take my money out of my hand And then you start getting in now like nah maybe I didn't see the blackjack the right way and they pull the cards like no no Let me add that. Sir you lost yeah You try to add like you can't read the cards fast you like no way but how much was that fam, you lost, bro.

Just go ahead and walk away. Take your money and put it back in your pocket, man. Yeah, I found out yesterday that Damaris had a gambling problem. I've known her for so long, never knew that side of her. I've been to Vegas with her, and I didn't even know that. Yeah, it's better. You got a gambler problem? That's why I don't, like, get involved.

Because once I do it, I don't know how to stop. You know, some people, once they start drinking, they don't know how to stop. They got to get drunk. What should be gambling on them? I used to have a real bad blackjack problem. Like, back when I lived in Syracuse, I would be at the casinos all the time. Like, even during COVID, when they was on. only like letting like a couple of people through the door like I was in line.

You're on a list. Yeah. It was. Yeah. It was. You know, being in line again, because, you know, it was bad. They had you on a list? Mm-hmm.

And I just bet. I'm money good. Like, daily, like, throughout everything, like, if you talk to the people I talk to daily, anything that's just like a question or a challenge, I bet on it, like, what you want to put on it. Like, they just like, D'Maris, I just, like, I just want to say if it's going to rain today. Like, you don't have to put money on that.

Like, it's, yeah, that's what you down bad. Because one of my, somebody I know is involved in. the stock market and he was like, I would teach you, but I can't trust you to do this because you'll lose everything. Well, like day trading? Yeah. That's just a fancy way of saying gambling. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I can't. That's just premium gambling at the end. It's acceptable like, oh, you don't have a problem. You day trade. Yeah. Like, no, no, no, you're an addict. Yeah.

That is a cool way of saying like I'm a gambling addict. Like, yeah. You're just gambling, bro. You're gambling on stocks. Yeah. It's like if an alcoholic says, oh, sometimes I just, overindulch. No, no, you're not cold.

You're not cold. But there's so much that goes, like, into it. Like, I remember I would be on the phone with him and he'd be like, damn, Trump need to say something today. Because if Trump says something, that's going to make this stock go up or Elon needs to tweet something because this stock. It's crazy. Yeah.

That's so nuts that, like, that's where it's at now. Yeah. Somebody could tweet something. It's like, all right, this stock just dropped. Yeah. Like, if I ever poor, let me just text Elon. Yo, you could tweet today? Yeah, yeah, say something.

Yeah. Say you're not fucking with this today. Yeah. But shit, when we were in Vegas. I went down, I forget it was, I think it was Sunday morning to go get some food in the lobby. I seen, I seen reason playing roulette by himself. I said, you gambling by yourself? He'd been down here all night, all night.

And I understand to a lot of people that's very normal. As someone that doesn't gamble, often, seeing someone that's your friend gambling by themselves, like, you could have texted us, we could have had some friendship. That's when you know your friend got a problem. You catch him at the table by itself. Let's get some pancakes, but. Yeah, man. And let's go talk.

Rulette in the morning is fucking crazy to me. Hey, man. But how much did you lose that first song? I didn't lose a lot. I think I lost maybe like 500. Okay. Once I lost 500, that was it. I was like, yeah, this is not for me.

It just don't feel right. Yeah. Like just walking away from your money like that, that fast too. But that shit happened quick. I don't say, yeah, no, I'm cool. No, my, uh, I left, left Vegas breaking even and that's when I pulled out like even like in life I lost money and then the last day I got I got back to zero and I was on a I was like nope

I'm back at zero I'm fine with that okay so that trip though you still Vegas still has your money though over the years I've only been to Vegas twice in my life but did you get you gamble the first time uh maybe like a little bit I'm not I enjoy like blackjack's fun when like you're with your friends but I probably like the like the first time uh maybe like the first time uh I'm not I'm I'd be at like the fucking $25 tables. It's not fun with you with your friend. I like being there by myself. I don't know nobody.

It's two other people, strangers. I like when they're a couple and they're like so involved with each other that they're not really paying attention. But then they be fucking around and busting like fucking the table up sometimes. I don't know.

I just with, you have to figure you're probably going to lose your money and I'd like to have fun while doing it. Like I don't want to sit there quietly by myself when I'm going to lose money and not even have fun. Like with your friends at least, you can laugh at you. Shoot the shit.

Like yeah. It can be fun in that. You're not paying attention. I don't like that. No, you can still pay attention to do that. No, Damaris is, you're talking to a gambler. She's, she got a problem. Like, she's like, now I want to be my myself and I'm going through my problems.

Like, yeah, like, I don't. Like, I need my friends there. It needs to be the free drinks. So I'm kind of making up but losing money. Then I'm fine playing Blackjack. Blackjack's fun in that regard. Not for me. But that's why I be getting into sports betting with y'all with like, I don't be doing

what the fuck is going on. But I'm just like, yo, so and so and so going all the way, so and so going all the way. Peege told me that Timber Woods are doing good. But no, so sports betting to me is, you have a fighting chance. I just feel like the casinos, you're fucked, like, no matter. But you're going there to lose your money. At least if you have some knowledge of sports, you have a fighting chance with sports betting. That blackjack shit, they cut in the deck.

You fucked bet. Like, unless you're rainman, it can fucking count cards like Kevin Spacey. I don't know what to tell you. My homeboy just put $50,000 on the spurs to win it all. Why you ain't never introduced me to that home, boy? I don't know why. I should just introduce you to somebody that just bet 50,000 on Spurs.

Sounds like he has some, you know. You want me to introduce you to fine bitches and my equivalent to fine bitches is 50,000 on the Spurs. Disposable income where you can just be like, you know what, 50 on the Spurs. Yeah. I think it's a bad bet though. No, I think, I mean, especially coming off the Spurs loss.

Yeah, definitely went up that way. Yeah, I think it's a good bet. And it's not a, now, listen, it's 50,000. So if the Spurs, you know, lose and it's like, like fuck but the spurs are one of the favorites to win at all so it's kind of like you know you take it that's what gambling is you take that chance but he just sent that ticket to me I was like I like it good bet good bet 50,000 to get 290 something like that keep me in the hundreds you got losing 50k I don't care how much money I have that would oh my God

I would be in console like I wouldn't even know what to do yeah man but then if you hit right yeah and then I'm gonna get on that high and then put a hundred to roll again shit and then be down fucking 75 what the Yankees doing let me see what they're at like with the Yankees do I start getting that fucking God complex yeah yeah what the Yankees doing that's how it happens no thank you but I mean insider trading anyone out there quietly wants to hit me I'm here for it inside of training I could be bought if you got a lick I'm here to put up 50K That's funny.

But do we have voicemails? You've got mail. Yo, what's up? This is Dee from Jersey. Quick question. Having my first kid later this year. And looking through the paperwork, they give you certain options during the birth,

like playing music. So I wanted to know, Rory, one, if you played any music during your daughter's birth or more de Maris, when you have kids, should you have kids. What's on the playlist during labor? Trying to figure out if I can get a little fuego bass and some Wu-Tang in the delivery room, but my wife's haven't done it that shit.

That's sick. Love the pie. Keep going, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you for that. Wu-Tang in the delivery room is great. You could play some ODB, baby. I like it raw, because that's why we're here.

Oh, obviously. Also, congrats. Yes, congratulations. And definitely hope. you guys have a very safe and successful birth. I've talked about this before, though. We had Frank playing, and Kia really loves Rufus to Seoul. So it was Frank and Rufus.

Frank Ocean? Okay. Those were the two during labor. Yeah, I think that's nice to kind of set that vibe for your mom, for the mother to be and, you know, kind of make her comfortable as much as she can be. I just think you're kind of trolling her if you start playing Wu-Tang, bring the pain.

Maybe she doesn't have an epidural and like she's doing a natural birth like that. Or how's a pain jump around? Plan jump around while your girl trying to give birth that's crazy. But shake that ass, bitch. Hands on your knees. Hands on your knees.

Breathe. Breathe. Hands on your knees. I would probably do, I would do, well, I'm a woman, so I'm looking at it differently. I would do music that comforts me. So probably a lot of, I'm a weirdo Disney soundtracks. Like the black Cinderella soundtrack, Brandon, Whitney, Mulan soundtrack, Anastasia soundtrack,

Salon just a seat at the table. Like music that relieves anxiety. Don't play no hyperactive shit when I'm over here trying to push a bowling ball through my Gucci. Yeah. No, I mean, granted, as much I like Rufus and I love Frank Ocean as well, but those picks were specific for Kia to, you know, have a calm environment of music that she likes. So, bro, it's not your choice. Yeah, you'll do the breathing exercises, hold our hand, maybe even catch the, the baby, but you're not doing anything. So maybe look at her playlist before you want, you want to get a Riza out the gate. I don't know. I feel like I wouldn't even want music, though. You just want to hit. I want them people that like music overstayed, like music is,

music is not background for me. Music will always be like forefront. So if I'm hearing music, I'm focused on the music, I might just be like, I want silence. Because my, one of my sisters was like that when she was in labor, she was like, I see that your hair. I acknowledge that your hair do not make any sounds. I need complete silence. when she was pushing. And I'm like, I feel like I might be that way. Like, I need silence. Yeah, I'm different, though, because even when I take a shit, I play music.

So it got to be like the same, like, you're pushing. Yeah, I don't know if I've, I don't know the last time I'm taking a silent shit. Yeah, you can't take a silent shit. Taking a silent shit, listening to something. Taking a silent shit is psychotic. I think silence. Though it was funny that one time you shit in the office and you were playing Jadakus, though. I just think shitting to Jadakis was funny.

I mean, it doesn't matter what I'm playing. Like, I just, you know what I'm saying? Like, I need to hear music something. No. Going in the bathroom and silence and taking the shit is crazy. Y'all know I'm on the phone. I'm on FaceTime 24-7. That is the only time I will hang up the phone.

I would like, I got to call y'all back. I'll do anything else on my FaceTime. But when I'm taking a shit, I'm not. You can't fake. No, no, I'll call you back and it got to be silent. You shouldn't be shitting on FaceTime. I'm not, no, but like music, yeah. Yeah, you need little music.

You need water running. Because water relaxes you when you hear running water. There's wasting water, right? It relax. Yeah, fuck that water. You relax. Plenty of people that would like it. Yeah.

Just relax. relax and play some music and you know just let it go drop the kids off silence and I can't be doing nothing on my phone like it needs to be silent and I need to concentrate you need to concentrate when you're taking the shit what are you concentrating on just like this shit like yeah

I hug my knees and I just I really focus and silence it's a squatty pot silence mm-hmm to me that's sick but I can't even go to sleep with silence so I don't know maybe you play music as you're taking the shit Are you serious? You have to

Bro, what do we? I've never Or like, oh, I'm watching a video on YouTube Or something like something A silent shit is crazy That's crazy to me No Push it

You gotta play song pebble push it When you're taking that shit for sure That's top five That's too much I would be so over-stimulated Or Rick or else push it to the limit Yeah I would be so overstimulated

With music while taking a shit I would be so overstimilar Like what would happen You won't be able to shit No I just It would like it would bug me. Like, when I get over-stimulated, like, my skin crawl.

So if I'm hearing too many sounds or feeling too many things at once, like, I just want to crawl out of my skin. I wouldn't be able to do it. Are you autistic? I'm not going to lie. If I go take a test, there's a good chance I'm probably a little higher on the spectrum than most. I'm not going to-

Because you know, it's harder for us to tell if women are autistic. Because one of the easier ways to tell if a man is autistic because men can't take directions when you're autistic. It's like, that's one of the signs. Women, y'all can take directions. And how to do things and instruction. Like getting in the kitchen. It's like that with ADHD, too.

Like finding out I had ADHD when I was younger, when you're younger, the boys, like, it's usually like hyper, the hyper part. So men are very hyperactive when they have ADHD when their kids. Girls aren't really like that. Their mind is more hyperactive than their bodies. So ADHD gets skipped in young girls a lot. Okay. Well, yeah. If you are, in fact, on the spectrum, we could use you in fashion.

Based on available survey data, DeNaris, a significant minority of people still use the bathroom in silence, a 2020. server indicated that 66% of people regularly use their smartphones on the toilet. Okay, using your smartphone, but the smartphone doesn't have to make noise. Like if you want to, yeah, I mean, if you want to read an article. Yeah. That's true. I've done that before. That's always been a thing reading.

I've read on the toilet. Reading is fine. I mean, that's what you used to do was grab a magazine of the newspaper. Yeah, reading is fine. But the sound, no, only sound I should hear is like my. This is why the maris. being silent is crazy because it says time spent those who do not use phones, the silent group,

which is De Maris, likely spend less than five minutes on the toilet while heavy phone use the office spent over 15 minutes. The Maris be on that toilet more than five minutes. For an hour, I'll be on the toilet for an hour, but in silence. Oh, wait until y'all has kids. I don't believe that. That's going to be your statement. She's not on the toilet for an hour in silence. Yes. There's no fucking way.

But I can use my phone and not have the phone make noise. I don't want the phone to make noise. You can read articles. You can scroll. But like, for it to be making noise or listening to music or watching movie? Some individuals specifically require complete silence to relax the pelvic floor and manage shy bowel syndrome. Oh, it's called parco presses. You have parko presses. I got parko presses. My booty shy? You have a shy bow. That makes sense though. You got the pulse. Oh. That makes a lot of

sense. Because you tried aniled at one time and got scared. Okay. This might be TMI, but maybe Netflix will cut this part off. So when you're sitting there for an hour, are you wiping your butt and then sitting or you just got a shitty ass for an hour and then... Ooh, that shit be itching. That shit's itching.

That shit, it's itching. Do you wipe and then just chill or like we just sitting there? Parker presses or Shy Bow is a common anxiety disorder characterized by the inability to defecate in public or shared restaurants. Okay, so she's...

Okay, maybe shy here. Are you shy at home as well? On the toilet? Uh, maybe. I don't know. Shared restrooms due to fear of being heard or judged, affecting 7 to 32% of people. It causes severe distress avoiding public restrooms and physical issues like constant patient and abdominal pain. Treatment involves behavioral therapy, graduated exposure.

So you graduated exposure to damage you have to expose your butthole a little more so it won't be shy. And relaxation techniques. Yeah. See? I'll think about that for the next. time. I'm going to try to go home and shit with music. Yeah, just put some tunes on. I don't even like the thought of it. It freaks me out.

I think giving birth in silence is crazier, but. Nah, that's some shit. You just thought. Well, giving birth is like, we have people around you, coaching you, talking to you, you know. Yeah. Kind of like, you know. The music was loud. We had candles. We took, because remember, we were recording at my house at the time. So I had all these lights. I brought all those lights. You had a pod set up during you?

No, it's just a. He definitely had a mic. It was just, it was, it was, it was. He bought to shore with you too. Well, we did film it. Did you have the black magic? You filmed one of the black magics we have here? No wonder we have no space on the hard drive. Got the Scorsese angles.

Yeah, like, it was all the one shot. And he got mad and he was like, here, listen, these are the lines, all right? Okay, I need you to focus on me and the camera. Focus here. Keep your eyes here. This level right here, please. Well, you know, we did like mood lighting and candles and everything. Oh, okay.

Did you make it a relaxed, relaxed environment? That's cool. I'm not mad at that. I respect that. But all right, well, we're right back tomorrow, right, gang?

Yes, sir. Unfortunately. It's good seeing y'all. Again, thank you to Complex. Thank you to everybody over there. Shout out to Jordan. Yes, sir.

Shout out to everybody that made the list. Everybody that didn't make the list. Tomorrow's, well, next year is another year. And hopefully we'll see some new faces. Yeah. Different rankings. But either way,

we're all grateful to be a part of this culture and this ecosystem. Whether we love each other or hate each other, we're all a part of it, right? Yeah. So we're used to it. Let's challenge everyone on the list and off the list to let's bring some positivity into hip hop media in 2026 and 27.

After Ice Man, we can do that. Everyone has to say they love it. I got some shit to get off. This is my redemption. I got some shit to get off. After that, though, yeah, we could coom by y'all. Is this your mic, 45 season? Yeah, you wearing 45 the season?

I got some shit to say after this album drops. I got some shit to talk. Fuck that. But we'll be back soon. Be safe. Be blessed. nigga, he's just ginger. Peace. No.

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Our podcast is called, Hey Jonas. We've here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it?

You know, or taste so good can be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Everyone sees me as a football player, but before anything else, I'm human. Every single day I'm still learning how to live with problems, mistakes, relationships, emotions, ever since I was born.

This isn't a normal podcast. Everything here is a spontaneous, real, and genuine, just honest conversations about what it means to be alive. I'm Javieril Chichariot-O-Nand-es and listen to Learning to Be Human on I-Hart Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an I-Heart podcast, guaranteed human.