New Rory & MAL - Episode 492 | Trolling Loud
Episode Date: May 12, 2026It’s ICEMAN Week, and Mal reacts to the rumors circulating the internet this week. Charlamagne claims there are A$AP Rocky and DJ Khaled disses on the album, as well as features from Future and ...Karol G. In other music news, French Montana beats Rick Ross in a Versuz battle, Latto announces her retirement album, and the guys review Chris Brown’s new album. Rolling Loud Orlando sparks discussions surrounding Trim and PlaqueboyMax, and Audemars Piguet and Swatch’s collab has the internet losing its mind. The crew wraps with a recap of Kevin Hart’s roast on Netflix, the Knicks’ series sweep over the Sixers, and Nick Cannon and DDG’s Wild n’ Out battle. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever Go to https://baskandlatherco.com and use code RORYANDMAL for 20% offSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Single ladies.
All the chicken has.
Why that's always the ladies that's not single that make the most names?
Yeah, to see you all, all you do is start rumors and lies.
No, I'm not saying you're saying, why is it that when that part comes on,
like all the ladies that's like in there with a guy.
Like their boyfriend is right there.
He bought the ticket.
You out screaming in a good ear.
I don't know if you need to do that either though.
You can just chill and watch the show.
Like you ain't got to be like.
Yeah, it's like the most awkward.
What are we type question?
You make a noise during that part.
And you don't find out that, you know what I'm saying?
Like that shit girl until like you go out somewhere and she introduce you.
That's always fun.
Like this my man.
Mall.
You never have?
I feel like that happen.
I feel like men do that more often than women do that.
Nah, niggas ain't doing that anymore.
He's got to walk.
Hey, show, you can't say this your girl.
You don't know who she be with.
This is my girl.
You sure?
She was just here with somebody else last week.
Sure to show this your lady?
All right, fan.
You never want to do that in their response is word.
Yeah, like, since when?
How long?
Whenever they asked how long, that means they're trying to do the math.
They're trying to, like, because last month she was just, all right.
Peace and blessings.
I'm happy if you're happy.
Yeah.
As long as you happy, I'm happy.
That's my new thing.
When niggins do dry hating like that, for real, you got, like, some shit like that one made me crash out.
If I'm with a nigga and I'd be like, yeah, this is my man.
They'd be like, where on y'all y'all been together?
Being funny, I got to crash out on you.
Why?
What if that's a real question?
Because don't be funny, you hating ass, nigger.
Don't be a hater.
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There's a make-a-wink tier for 50K.
Yes.
Never know who's going to make it wink.
It's just a random staff member every week.
No, no, not staff member.
It just might be, you know, we're going to go through some videos,
some DM videos that we got and just, you know, post random weeks.
A random staff member.
All right.
So we start with Demaris and then where are we going?
Like, we can tell.
Who's the next staff member?
All right.
Starting with me.
Start with one of y'all.
All right, fan.
Fuck you so old.
Are we going to make it wink?
Yeah, this is the new Rory Maw podcast.
Y'all show y'all asshole.
It's not the new Rory Moll make it wink podcast.
I don't take it that much.
Exactly.
They ain't paying for that.
That's crazy.
I went in my DM request on Twitter for the first time in a very long time.
Lit, right?
Yeah, because I had asked, I need somebody to make me a YouTube intro.
So I was like, you know, people were reaching out to me.
So I went in there.
Mad dick.
Like, why is you dick?
sending mad hammer to my Twitter.
That's weird.
Has that ever worked?
Like pigs?
Videos.
I just like, has that worked?
What you mean?
Has any man successfully sent a complete unsolicited dick pick to a stranger with no
high, no nothing, just their dick?
Well, he's a high.
And a girl was like, hey.
Yeah.
No way.
You just work before.
I don't know.
I should.
I mean, I ain't going to hold you one of them shit.
I was like, oh, I was about to say, I'll see you?
You know, like, I see you, okay.
That means she'll sit on it.
That's not, that's not.
Whenever they say I see you.
Hey, Roy.
Whenever they say I see, because that's like when you walk up on a blog,
Roe, you got a fresh fit on in the home day.
I see you.
That means you killed that fit right there.
That fit is fire.
That's all Demaris was saying, I see you.
Y'all know.
What a compliment, though.
I mean, that would make my day.
Do I see you?
Demaris is so stupid.
I see you.
Oh, my God.
And to see the video
you had to like hit accept, right?
Yeah, well, I was like,
he saw that you saw it.
Well, I didn't know what.
Yeah, he probably saw that I saw it.
Because this is why I had my reverse seat time.
Oh, yeah.
So I hit except because he was like, hey, I just wanted to tell.
Like he was being nice about something.
Okay.
So I clicked it up.
Oh, shit, dick.
Damn.
Well, what was he saying before that though?
Like, what was the nice message?
He said like some nice.
I don't remember, but it was nice.
So I thought he was replying to,
because also when people replied to your photos that
you post it, it'll show up as like hidden as well. Like the photo will show up hidden. So like they can
send you your own picture that you post it back and it'll show up as hidden. So I just click
on it like I always know. I was like, oh, wow. Sheesh. Okay. Sheesh. I see, but I see you.
I feel like it's a shutdown though. Like I remember a dude sent me a picture of like him in the gym or
whatever. I had, I had got, went and got a boyfriend. This was somebody I used to date and I had
went and got a boyfriend. And I didn't want to be rude. So he sent me a picture. I went and got a
boyfriend. And I was like, oh, I was like, okay, body, that nigga never responded to me.
He said me, he, because he do got a fire body, but I was in a relationship. So I just was like,
okay, body, I see you. That's cheating, though to me. Wait, he sent you a picture of him in the
gym. Like, yeah, him in the gym. I was just like, okay, body. And then he never responded
after that? No. Did he take that as, like, an insult or like? I would take that as an insult.
If you send a girl that you were dating, like, you know what I'm saying, on and off a picture
you in the gym. And like, she'd be like, okay, body, I see you. Like, that's not.
there was no heart eyes.
Oh, this was somebody you used to date.
Yes.
Oh, okay, okay.
I thought this was like just some random.
No, this was.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, then that usually means,
I lost her.
She's not open for like,
lost her.
She can't pull up right now.
She, she's seeing somebody.
Yeah.
Let's see.
You look healthy.
Yeah.
Glad to see.
Yeah.
Lost,
lost this one.
Yeah.
Just got to accept the fate.
Well, anyways,
Moe,
how was your weekend?
Mother's Day weekend.
Mother's Day weekend.
Happy Mother's Day weekend.
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there.
Thank you.
Thank you to all the mothers.
You guys create life and all that shit.
D'Maris said thank you.
Wait, we're all right.
D'Maris, what's up?
These bitches is her son.
What's up, what you're going through?
You all right?
These bitches is her son.
Later.
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there.
Hopefully all the mothers felt a little extra love this weekend.
And, you know, praise to everybody whose mother is no longer here.
Absolutely.
It's an important day to kind of check in on your friends and people that no longer have their moms.
It's a very, you know, emotional day for them.
So praise to those who have lost their beautiful mothers.
Yes.
Well, I had a nice Mother's Day.
Kea and I did the lunch thing with Amara and playground.
And, you know, it was a nice, nice mother's day.
Nice family day.
Because you indeed made Kia a mother, so you should celebrate as well.
True.
I mean, they have a thing called Father's Day.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what she celebrates with you too.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But yes, happy Mother's Day to Kia.
Thank you, Kia.
It was a really nice day.
Once her and Amara went to sleep, I had to turnpike.
though was out in these streets I was in Philadelphia celebrating the Knicks win
I went to the J-Electronica show which was a great time in a Nix T-shirt it's a great way
to celebrate in a Nix T-shirt with J-Electronica of Philly up and I was a good time
ended up just staying down there because I wasn't driving back but yeah it was a good show
I suggest anyone if he's coming to your city to go to the show and that's my plug
shout out to J-Electron Hanna-Hon-Honica I forgot how much I like Philly though
Philly's a great city.
It's crazy that it is only like an hour away and we don't go like often.
I have more fun in Philly these days than I probably do in New York.
If I could find like like, you know what I'm saying three things to do in Philly while I'm there,
then I would spend more time in Philly.
I have to have that like mapped out before.
I don't really know.
I was sweeping their national basketball team is always fun too though.
Oh, that was fun.
That's a good act.
You know the Nicks had a great weekend.
But yeah, I need to find certain things to do in Philly so I can spend like a day in Philly.
I don't really know a lot of people in Philly.
So I can't call somebody
like, yo, what's up, man?
I'm going to come down for the day.
You're vegan.
It's a great food city, but not for vegans.
It's a great vegan city too.
There's a lot of Muslims, big Muslim community.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So not a lot of pork options, but there's still plenty of
That's a big community.
See, you don't know.
He don't know.
He now tapped into the vegan face.
He got to put them on swan.
You know how many Muslims I was with yesterday?
He said, I still got swan on his mind.
You know what I'm saying?
So I got to help him out a little bit.
I got to show you some good vegan.
Got that swine on the brain?
Yeah, I got to show you some good Vee in Philly, though.
But there was a lot that did happen this weekend.
There was Verses.
There was the Kevin Hart thing.
There was basketball.
Where do we want to start?
I admittedly did not watch Verses.
You didn't watch it?
Come on, man.
You got to watch the Verses with French and bro.
I didn't watch that shit either.
I did.
I didn't.
I didn't.
I watched it.
I had it on and I was watching the game at the same time.
Yeah, I watched it.
How was it?
I don't think that
I don't think audiences are needed in verses
because I feel like the audiences
that they put in these rooms now
they just find young people to just fill up the room
a lot of these kids in the room
were nine when some of these songs came out
or 10 years old
you know what I'm saying
it's like they don't really
it's just like it don't
I would rather be just the artist in the room
kind of like how they have the color series on YouTube
and just like make the production look dope
and have them perform the songs
the audience makes it a little a little weird
Yeah.
It makes it a little weird.
But, I mean, you know, they performed some records and, you know, some of them aged well.
Some of them didn't.
But overall, it was a, you know, it was a cool event, I guess.
I just, I don't know.
I think the versus thing for me is kind of run its course a little bit.
So this was, if I'm not mistaken, this was the first time they ever did the voting system
where someone could actually win versus.
Before it was just the court of public opinion.
Yeah.
But they had a system where you could vote for each record.
and for those that did vote French Montana won 10 to 9.
But then I also see that Rick Ross performed, I'm a star twice.
Whose idea was that?
He performed devil in a new, and is a blue dress, a new dress, new dress, right?
He performed that.
It's also funny that I'm not a star lost both times too.
I could see if you're, you know, you get a quick win with I'm not a star.
Maybe let's bring it back.
Yeah, he might have felt like he might have felt like he didn't.
Yeah, I didn't hear that one.
Like, let me bring that back.
Now, you lost again.
It's a great song too
Yeah, great record. Holy shit.
Yeah, he did it against
Shot Color in the first round.
I was like, you know what?
Let me get a do-over.
Yeah.
And still lost again.
I forgot French Montana had freaks.
That was my shit.
That was my shit.
What is work remix?
Work.
Oh, yeah.
You know that record.
We can't play it, but you definitely know work.
Sing it.
Sing it.
I don't know that record.
Sing it.
I probably know.
know it, but I don't be doing the name and shit.
I'm like, mall with that.
I'm terrible with titles or songs.
Some of my favorite songs, I don't know the name.
I just found out what the name was.
Some record was the other.
I was like, that's the name of it.
Oh, okay.
You know that.
You know that.
Girl head in my tummy.
Exactly.
Oh, my shit, sorry.
Do we think they're going to continue doing this?
Was there a lot of viewers?
Oh, I don't know how many viewers there was.
I wasn't really paying this.
And then you can watch it on your phone.
You can watch it on X now.
It's different, like, platforms.
that you could actually view it on.
So who knows how many people
across all platforms viewed it.
I don't really care about that.
I was looking at the-
I feel like Middle of America
loves these.
Maybe I'm only looking from my perspective.
I'm just kind of tired of the versus thing.
It was amazing.
It was a legendary thing.
I just, I'm not stopping what I'm...
Even if I'm doing nothing,
I don't know if I'm bringing verses up.
Yeah.
It's just, I don't know.
I don't think it has the allure anymore.
But they did do like a little press run.
I saw they sat with Ebro.
I did watch that.
So it's good to see Ross.
and French friends together doing press runs and shit.
But can we finally admit that Rick Ross is weird?
Why?
Why do you say that?
And I know this is.
You said finally admit like we've been like holding that in.
What you mean you finally admit?
Well, we did talk about this in the beginning after the like that thing and the 20v1 started.
And I know we are the Drake Bias podcast, but I'm speaking from a very objective place.
We didn't put enough light into how weird it was that Rick Ross entered into that rapy.
What did you have to, like, why are you in this whole thing?
And then you came up with an excuse that it was because Drake didn't clear his verse for French Montana's album,
which made all the sense in the world because everyone was waiting for Drake to say something in the biggest moment.
And it wasn't about to be a verse he did 10 months ago.
And then French Montana is sitting next to him going like, no, I was fine with it.
So what the fuck are you doing, Rick Ross?
You're finding any way to just get in this shit.
And now you tell you, oh, I want to see you win, homie.
Shut up.
But we saw, shut up.
He's one of my favorite rappers.
He's hilarious.
His discography is incredible.
But that's some weird.
Like, that's super weird.
Yeah, but we knew what that was in the moment, though.
We said that.
We said it was weird for him to do that.
We said he was trying to capitalize up the moment.
He shot a video for the song with a bunch of ballet around him.
Like, people were trying to capitalize in the moment.
Like, we knew what that was.
We knew what that moment.
It was a moment.
People were trying to capitalize.
Even if it's petty reasons, I understand the metro thing.
And there's women involved.
weekend there's exes involved and maybe Drake fuck someone's baby mother or there's some slimy
shit going on with women because that's usually how things get to this point. Rick Ross said,
oh, he didn't clear a verse for French. So fuck him. I'm in this now. After he gave me all my number
one records. Everyone else I understood why, even if it wasn't a great reason, I understood
why the 20V1 existed in everything in the history with Drake and certain artists. Rick Ross, who's
his man's just entered into that beef because he wanted to.
I guess I'm saying it was called out, but it wasn't highlighted enough in that whole thing
of why is Rick Ross doing this?
So when he gets and is talking to Ebro, what was his quote?
We want to see you win, oh, me.
Like, shut up.
Shut up.
Well, he can't say he want to see Drake win?
No, nobody can't backpedal because there's a lot of that going on.
I don't want to see you lose, fam.
Well, I think it was deeper than that.
I think because he was on that record with French, I believe.
No, the leak exists.
You could YouTube that shit now.
It's just Drake and French?
Oh, so Ross wasn't on it because I originally thought Ross was on that record.
Even if he was, okay.
Yeah, but if he was, it would help.
French don't even care.
I know French doesn't care, but I'm just saying if he was, we know what that's about.
It helps the artist streams at the end of the year.
It looks good.
We knew what that whole play was about.
And this is what I said when I said people need Drake.
they need him. They don't stream well without them. Rappers don't stream well without hit records.
And who's giving people more hits than anybody else in rap? Drake. So now when I'm not giving you
the verse that I used to give you because I'm doing other things. They have like seven classic
records together. And I'm sure Drake would have wanted to continue to work with Rickruss.
At some point, yes. But if Ross needs it right now and he's like-
on a French Montana album. Yeah, but if Ross needs a verse right now and he needs to stream this year,
his numbers this year he needs those streams
then you can see why a rapper
will fill some type of way if you're giving
21 all these verses in an album
you're giving sexy red you're giving
this person that person and then I can't get
one you can see how some people will then
show their true colors and be like
or you explain it the weirder it is I understand
I understand but the weirder part to me is
during the verses when he's
doing Drake's records
or the records that they have he has with Drake
he doesn't want to let Drake's
part play but
Drake had to clear those songs to be performed at the verses,
which is, I don't know if people know that or not.
Like, Drake had to clear those songs so that they are able to be performed.
Which, by the way.
So if he's clearing it, meaning he's like, all right, cool, whatever.
Like, even after you diss them and did all of that,
Drake ain't axed all to him, be like, nah, fuck that.
Like, you can't.
Oh, please don't do that.
What?
He cleared the song.
They performed the record.
I would have too.
And Drake is petty and has every right to be petty.
He didn't clear that out of good faith and good love for hip hop.
I didn't say that.
He did that.
He cleared those to show all the other rappers.
You can't do a verses without the songs that I gave you.
Obviously.
Obviously, but then why not?
That was a petty reason, not a good heart of life.
No, for sure.
But then why not just let my hook play that?
Well, no, that's all that.
At that point.
That's really why I'm highlighting this.
It's outside of just what he said with Ebro.
I thought that was corny as fuck that Ross did that based off their history and how weird it was
for him to enter that.
Like I could see it people do that if there's some real bad history there.
There isn't that history.
Yeah.
You're just weird.
Like, I want to hear that.
Like, the fuck did he do to you?
Yeah, but that's, but a lot of that was weird in that moment.
Well, we know that now looking back two years.
Like, we know a lot of the things that happened was weird.
A lot of the things that was said was weird.
A lot of things felt like it came out of nowhere.
What was that for?
What issue does this person have with him?
Like, it was a lot of that going on.
But it was also a moment for people to try to capitalize.
and try to, you know, gain whatever they could out of the moment.
Like, and we said that when he jumped in it, we was like, yo, bro, I even said it.
Ross, I was like, yo, Ross, just fall back.
This ain't, this ain't the time for that right now.
Like, I remember saying, like, this is a one-on-one.
Like, this saying we don't really need that right now.
We don't care about what that is.
Like, we could do that after.
It just didn't feel right.
It felt like you was trying to get in on it and capitalize.
In the moment, we said that.
So looking back, yeah, it's like, bro, that was just a weird, a weird moment.
And rappers are weird.
So, I mean, it's not like a surprise there.
And I didn't even want to make it like a Drake.
I just thought it was really odd when I saw that, that clip of him saying,
don't do Drake's look.
And it's like, bro, why?
He cleared the record.
You're weird.
Hey, have fun.
It's not even a defending Drake thing.
It's just an observation of how odd that looks.
Very weird.
But it is Ice Man Week.
So sorry, guys.
We're going to be talking about Drake, like, he's one of the biggest artists ever.
We're going to be talking about his album.
him. I'm not talking about Drake until the album comes out. Well, Charlemagne did this morning.
He had, he had Iceman updates. I don't know if you saw that. Or how accurate they are.
I didn't. I didn't. I didn't see Charleston. No, I laughed at the deep breath to inhale you.
He was like, I didn't, I didn't hear Charlemann's Iceman update. He said Future and Carol G will be on Iceman.
He said that Drake got upset that he leaked that Future was going to be on the album and kicked everyone out the studio.
now nobody's allowed in the studio because Charlemagne had leaked that also he said DJ Cali
wait wait back up Drake got mad that Charlemagne leaked that said so the future was on album
and then Charlamagne was in the studio no no no after he leaked that Drake kicked everyone
out of the studio because maybe there was a leak in there that told Charlemagne what was going on
and here's my thing there's a mole I can see that for like some real specific information
it's not really a huge bombshell
that someone says futures on a Drake album.
I think everyone can stay in the studio.
Like that wasn't some exclusive.
Well, other people have alluded to no one
being on the Drake album.
So,
on any other album,
I would say that isn't a bombshell.
But on this one, it's like, oh, so there are features.
Because there was a big rumor that
there will be no features on this album.
I can't see that.
But, I mean, he also said DJ Callie.
an ASAP Rocky, we're going to get direct shots.
I mean, he's, again, not shocking to me that he's going to dis-a-sap-Rockey.
Everyone can stay in the studio.
Why, Callet, though?
Since we're being on the weirdo side of things where I thought Rick Ross was odd,
why does Drake have a disdain for DJ Khaled?
I, to this day, have no idea.
I mean, it was kind of nuts that Khalid said I have two Drake songs before clearing them
with Drake, especially.
especially at that time, like, there's a lot going on right now.
I'm not going to clear those records.
But is there some history that I'm not aware of
of why Drake would hate DJ Khalid?
Like, was Cali, is he working out?
It's not like us or something?
I don't know if it's that type of energy to where it's like.
Asking if DJ Cali was like.
He does it on TikTok.
I don't know if it's like, maybe he just mentioned the whole
Calid thing.
Like that doesn't have to be a diss.
It could just be him mentioning, you know,
Khalid's stance through the whole thing or, you know.
But I mean, here's the thing.
I like Israel and Palestine.
Callage usually pretty quiet about things.
And because he's friends with so many people,
he does kind of just play the fence and stays quiet
when there is back and forth.
That's fine.
No, I'm not saying there's, well, the Palestine part.
Yes, but there's nothing wrong with that.
But that's why I'd be confused why Drake would maybe have an issue with him
because I don't remember Callig ever saying anything or picking aside.
No, it's not.
He's pretty neutral all the time.
that's kind of why he's had the career that he's had in a good way because he is cool with everybody.
I don't think it's picking the side.
I think it's him, the timing of him announcing that he has two Drake records.
It was a little nuts.
Yeah, when he probably didn't reach out to Drake through the whole thing.
And, you know, again, the whole trying to capitalize off of Drake and use Drake,
I think, you know, Drake obviously in that moment, he kind of felt like, you know, and Drake has known this.
he's known a lot of these guys don't like them.
They just need them.
And he knew that.
I just think he got to a point during that whole
2024 where he started recognizing it.
And then, you know, he just turned the water off.
He turned the faucet off.
And you don't think Calid likes it, though?
Not saying Callet like Strick.
Like I know Caled to be a good person.
I also know, well, Caller can be very self-serving to as well.
Sure.
So maybe that's the part.
Self-presentation is very important for a long career.
Yeah.
But that's maybe why.
in that moment,
Drake was like,
no,
I don't announce
you got two Calid features,
two Calits,
two Drake songs right now.
Yeah.
Now's not the time,
sir.
Again,
trying to capitalize off of a moment.
And I just think that that was,
you know,
that kind of just,
you know,
kind of turned Drake off
a little bit from Cali.
But I don't think it's a diss.
Like,
I don't think he's dissing Cali.
He may,
he may just mention that whole moment
and,
you know,
just Calid trying to use
that moment to capitalize
and he thought
that probably was wacky.
That's all. I don't think it's a down. I don't think he's on there 10, call it apart. Like, I don't think it's that.
Yeah. Well, I mean, Rocky replied on his album, so I think it's still fair game to keep going.
Oh, well, this is different. Like, this is, this is a little, this is a little different. This is a little more attached to the Rocky thing.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that that's going to stop anytime soon. No, I definitely. I see this. This is always going to be something where, you know, some type of shots are sent.
Well, sure. And I, well, I totally see why.
Rocky feels away,
again,
being objective.
Like,
I thought Drake's verse
one for all the dogs.
Again,
I don't know what happens
behind the scenes
or who said what,
where he would do that,
but like,
that verse was kind of crazy.
Like,
I get why this Rocky
and Drake thing
probably will never end.
Like,
they both have crossed
crazy lines with shit.
So.
Yeah,
sometimes,
you know,
you need that.
Sometimes it's okay
to not be cool
and not fucking nobody
no more.
I just,
I just want good music.
That's all me.
Oh, good music is on the way.
Trust and believe that.
Well, I mean, somebody's got to save the game now.
A lot of it.
A lot of it.
Fuck is hip-hop going to do.
A lot of good music.
A lot of good music is on.
A lot of good music.
Y'all know I fuck with Lotto, man.
Shout out the Lotto, man.
She's a retirement album.
She announced, 529 my retirement album.
Thank you for everything.
Listen, man, you know, she's a mom now.
No, I love it.
Yeah, she don't want to.
You're trying to rap no more?
Like she's like, I just had his baby raised my kid.
You know, I got money.
Y'all are funny.
Why?
Because your favorite line is rappers don't retire.
Rappers don't retire.
Hustlers do.
Hope they didn't go over your head.
So you think Lottos, you consider Lotto one of the, one of the hustlers who just got into rap just to make money.
Lado's a hustler.
Yeah, I don't think she loves the sport of rap.
I don't think she like.
I don't know. A lotto's actually one of...
Growing up, the girl I was on, like, growing up, not growing up hip-hop,
but, like, game show was trying to be a rapper since she was, like, eight years old?
A good majority of the new female rappers, I agree with you.
I do think Lotto, like, likes hip-hop.
I think she would, like, would try to rap if it wasn't a lick for all the girls right now.
She was in middle school trying to rap.
Yeah, no, I think you're right with 99% of a lot of the new female rappers.
But I think Lotto's in that...
I think Lotto's in that one percent?
She loved a sport?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But we'll see.
She may hold my thing true.
She may not be retiring.
When that baby turned about six, seven.
Six seven is a long time.
Six years?
Six years ain't a long time.
In hip-hop?
No.
It's not a long time.
Shit.
In this day and age, that's not a long time.
Six months is a long time in hip-hop.
Y'all were, how long was Carrie gone for?
And every year it was like, okay, Wednesday,
The album coming, when's the album coming, when's the album coming?
And she was still putting out shit.
And even still, that was an extremely long time.
And respect to Lotto, she doesn't, she's nowhere near as big as Cardi was.
Six years is a long time.
Okay, so there you go.
There you go.
It was different for Cardi.
It was very different.
Cardi had just won Grammy for Best Rap album.
I understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying is Carty had the fame to have the room.
Lotto hasn't hit that pinnacle of success yet.
Six years is a very long time.
Like, I would, if she'd over time.
tire, one, maybe two. But six, it's hard to get back after six. No, you need this one record.
And it ain't hard. Man, this, this era. It's a lot of trash shit out here. All you got to do is make
one good record and you write back on the top of the algorithm. And the top of the algorithm, but not
the charts. And that is she at the top of the charts right now? No, but that's a, but that's another
thing. That's what I'm saying. Like, she's been semi-consistent and even still, it's not as, good records.
She does make a good record.
She put out a lot of good, you know, but I mean, she probably, you know,
listen, man, life kind of, you know, she's, and then again, this, we're just talking.
This may just be an announcement and then two years from now she's going to drop a picture on
Twitter or Instagram and she write back.
Like this is, you know, so I'm not putting too much stock into this.
But I'm just saying her announcing this maybe is because, again, you know, she's having a family now.
And, you know, that's where her focus and her energy is.
And music is the last thing that's, you know, on her.
first-time mother, right?
Yeah.
The first one, yeah.
So, you know, things is, you know, it's a little different right now for her.
She's not really music and recording and, you know, because people don't understand, you know,
the hours that it takes being in the studio and making music and recording an album and then,
you know, doing press.
And that's a lot, man.
And I think as a first-time mother, she's not thinking about none of that shit right
now that that requires the energy and attention that that requires.
Like, she's focused on raising her family.
So, yeah, I understand the announcement now.
But in a couple of years, she may get to.
that itch again and the sound might change a little bit.
It might be a new, new female emcee that comes along that just might inspire her.
Like, oh shit, shoddy's dope.
Like, you know how that shit go and it should be right back.
What happens when I no longer exist.
Exactly.
We have to see.
We have to see.
I hate it when she said that.
No, he ate that shit, though.
I know it's a classic record.
It's when I know longer exists.
It's the fuck this.
It's the fuck this that I'm talking about.
It's the mic drop.
Everything else we felt.
We felt all that before the.
but the fuck this was like, all right, man.
Like, are you really that pissed off, Jay?
Like, cut it out.
Yeah, cut it out.
He was fed up.
Like, he ain't fed up, man.
Where do you guys think this will rank like amongst retirement albums?
Do you think it'll be up there?
Do you think she'll have her faded black moment?
I hate when you do this.
I hate when you do this.
I hate when rappers say they retire.
No, it's so disrespectful because there's only certain artists that you do it to.
Express yourself.
I like a lot of women, right?
Her whole career.
Like, you can like women and still be misogynist.
you only do that. Wait, what's the woman, right?
He only does that shit to female rappers
or to the younger rappers. Yeah.
To people you don't respect. He don't do that to nobody.
He's going to see in traffic. Where do you think it's going to rank?
Like, what do you think is going to rank? He did the same
thing with Carisha. He did this. So,
are you guys ready to hear what Carisha has to say?
Is disrespectful? Yeah. And then if Carisha's in the verse for his album,
he's taking it. Yeah, he's being funny.
Like, you don't got to do that. I think she's great.
I'm trying to start. I would love to
reunite the City Girls on my project.
Like you.
throwing shade and it's cool but I'm gonna call you out on it.
Call him out, baby.
I'm never hated on a male rapper.
No, I'm not saying you've never hated on a male rapper.
It's really misogyny, right?
What I'm saying is...
No, he's not. I'm not fucking with him, dead ass.
What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is?
It's real smoke.
Hold on.
What a smoke machine?
You don't respect.
You only do that to people you don't respect.
You're being funny.
Where do you think this is going to rank on retirement albums?
You're being funny.
Well, it's a retirement album.
So maybe he really want to know where it's thinking amongst a
that have said this is my last album.
Maybe he wants to know where we're going to put
Big Mama at. Because when she
unretires, I'm going to say, yo, is this her kingdom come?
You're not going to say that.
You see what I'm saying? He's not. It's rage bait.
He's not going to say that.
And if you do say that, just make sure I'm not sitting here, if you do say that.
Because I don't want to hear that.
No, what if she regret? Remember the kingdom
come cover? Like it was, it had like that glossy
she could turn it and Jay would be like a different ear.
like Lotto could do that with her in 21
Hmm
And no
See I don't like this
Because last episode or the episode before that
I said I would love to hear
the
1988 version of Lotto
and 21 Savage together
I wasn't joking around
He did say that
I fucked with Lado
She's one of the fewer new
female rappers that I really like enjoy
She can really rap
Name your favorite Lato song
Shot on me
That he is
It is
It is but you don't know why
He's being funny
What else
Wait, why can't that be my favorite one?
All right, my nigga.
I'm not doing this with you.
What you mean?
Why is that his favorite song?
I'm not doing this with you.
What you mean?
I'm not doing this with you.
That's crazy.
I'm not doing it.
Why can't that be my favorite?
Because you're corny and you know I can't say why it's your favorite.
You're mad corny, bro.
I'm tired of him, yo.
I'm calling out all bullshit.
You calling the cap out?
Yeah, I'm calling all cap out.
All right.
All right.
All right.
I can't bring up retirement.
She announced her retirement.
I didn't ask her.
She did announce her retirement.
And Lotto, we love you
And we appreciate everything that you've given to the game
And I'm not mad at you for taking a break
I also believe that rappers don't retire
So I'm not mad at you for taking a break
So now you're on my shit
Yeah
Go be a go be a mom
Enjoy your family
I'm not laughing
If anyone said that
If Naz said I'm retired
No, I don't believe you
I just don't
Yeah, it's just when rappers are now
That's why I'm teased
She gotta get the same jokes
That all the we give all the rappers
You can't announce your retirement
I rolled my eyes at that tweet
Yeah
Which I would do with any rapper that says that shit
Like no
You're not
You don't, rappers don't retire.
Yeah.
You, you, you just realize that they ain't fucking with you no more and they ain't streaming your
shit and then you're like, all, I ain't gonna really.
That's enough.
I'm not gonna keep doing this.
But that Lotto ain't got that problem?
At all.
She streams well.
Fans retire rappers.
Rappers don't retire.
So maybe you say rap, like, oh, this is my last one.
Knock it off, fam.
This is not your last album.
I do need the her and 21 album, no.
I think they would sound good together.
Well, I think she also puts pressure on herself with that.
well maybe not in this area because maybe people just don't really give a fuck but when a rapper said like
the black album had a movie like it would he did the garden show and brought everyone out like
it's a moment when you retire for your fans and i know lotto has a lot of dedicated fans so
just saying this is my last project all right what the fuck you're about to say on this
because you got to say something like what's her what's her my first song what's her outro
what's her hop ain't had no motherfucker seat on his bicycle
we'll find out.
We'll find out when it drop.
Have y'all been listening to new music?
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That's how she's going to go out.
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I'm tired of.
You said, well, he listened to what?
Have y'all been listening to new music that has come out?
I did.
I gave Chris Brown, Brown, one listen, because it is a lot of music.
And I was even kind of scared to come in today to have a take.
because it is so much music.
I like the first half.
It still selfishly disappoints me
that Chris puts out so much music on his albums.
And I know his fans love when he's 27 records, 40 records.
I know that's great.
And Chris should serve his fans.
But I selfishly just want to condense Chris Brown.
It's not a long album though.
No.
There's like a one minute, 30 records and shit on there.
I just, it's so much to just digest.
And he's obviously a legend.
And I think he's one of the few legends without a quintessential album.
And I was hoping that we get that on this.
And again, I really like the first half.
And there's stuff on the second half I like to.
It's just so much.
And maybe it's just as I'm old and 36.
That's just not how my brain works with music.
Yeah.
It just doesn't.
There's some joints on there, though.
It sounds good.
I ain't a lot.
Chris, you almost lost me with the Vibs record, though.
It was a lot.
The Vibs Cartel.
I ain't a lot, Chris.
I don't want to hear you speak Pat Twal, my nigga.
I ain't going to go. Oh, that's what was going on?
Yeah, I don't want to hear that. I would have that. I fuck him, Chris.
You know, that's my nigga. But I know I was like, Munch, Munchy, you know, gay this
nigga too much ox tail and Munch had this nigga in Jamaica.
Listen, I know what it is. If Munch take you to, if you go to Jamaica with Munch and she got you
moving around. I would be, I'm speaking like, Ted Hanks right now.
Yeah, 100%. I'm speaking about. But it's like, you know, Chris, you're supposed to let that
way off real quick. You know what I'm saying? But I understand it.
No, I don't do that because your man's, yep. Your man's brought that.
into the game. Who? Just randomly speaking Pottau.
He didn't speak Pottau for four albums and all of a sudden he come in and
talk about men. It's different. It's different. It's different. It's different. I understand
the history of Toronto. Yeah, it's different. Callie ain't got that.
Callie don't even got good Jamaican food. Probably, no disrespect, Kelly. Probably the worst
Jamaican food I've ever had was in this. There's one spot that's decent. I forgot the name of it.
Somebody has to take me to the hood like to proper, but the Jamaican food I've had.
And Cali is just not.
It's not, it's not really, it's not really.
But we're spoiled.
Yeah.
We're like,
East Coast is different over here in New York.
But, um.
I heard it was different from like the different, the vibe of it is different from the previous
albums.
Like one of, one of my home girls is the biggest Chris Brown fan in the world.
Like she, our background on our text message is an AI picture of her and Chris Brown on the beach.
Like she's in, she can just pay $15.
She hates the album.
She hates it.
She hates the album.
So I kind of, she hates this album?
He hates this album?
Why?
I'm not mad at the new direction sonically.
Because I felt like the last two projects
where it was like 40 records and 35 records
was the same fucking sonics for all 40 records.
I wasn't mad that he was a little bit all over the place
on this one.
I guess she likes that.
She was like, I can't, she can't stand this one.
And I was like, oh, okay, it's probably a little bit different.
But yeah.
But I heard a lot of people like it.
I'm not saying it's bad because of that, but she's a huge Chris Brown fan
and she doesn't like it.
So it's, surprised.
It's going to be good.
I don't know.
I'm a bro.
broken record with my Chris Brown takes.
So that's why I'm coming today.
I was like, do you like it?
I like it.
There's some shit on it.
Do you like it more than 11-11?
Which is his previous.
It's too soon to say that.
Too soon?
Yeah, it's too soon to say that.
But the vibe of this album is definitely completely different from 11-11 though.
Okay.
Like just the energy, the vibe and, you know, the sound that he's going for, it's totally different.
Is it more traditional R&B than pop leaning?
It's definitely more R&B than pop.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay.
But Chris is always good at blurring the lines with R&B and pop.
Because even 1111 is very pop-driven, but it's R&B.
To me, I'm and Beyonce, do that very well.
That this is a pop record, but this is also an R&B record.
What's everyone's favorite Chris Brown album?
The first one.
Okay.
The self-title will always be my favorite.
What about you, Moore?
You know, I know about it's that one.
Pull up the cover.
for my baby.
Yeah.
I got to see the cover the album.
The track list.
I like graffiti.
I like heartbreak on a full moon.
I like royalty.
Fame will probably be my second favorite.
It would probably be Chris Brown fame,
and then probably exclusive.
Heartbreak on a full moon wasn't bad either.
That was the one that was 45.
Yeah, like I liked a lot of it,
but it was so tough to go back to remember what I liked on it.
And I think he released it.
Indigo was good, too.
Indigo was a good album.
X might be my favorite.
And quite as,
Quiet as Jeff is up there.
Royalty was the closest we got to a condensed
like Chris's album.
It has like my favorite narcissistic
record of Walter.
Kay is the funniest record Chris Brown's ever put out.
And it's also gorgeous, but it's very funny
to have a baby on someone and blame her for it.
Look at the lyrics.
It's the wildest song.
That's slime and B album with him and thug wasn't bad either though.
No.
His Pai Roo album with Ray.
is good.
Yeah.
But X,
X is probably my favorite
Chris Browno.
Fame and graffiti are great.
11.11 was good,
what was the mixed tape?
Chris doesn't have a whack project at all.
I just don't think he has
the quintessential classic.
That's like his,
his first album is his classic to me.
I'm sorry.
And that's a condensed album.
His first album is a classic to me.
There are no skiff.
Yeah.
It's just he was so young.
The first one was the Chris Brown album?
Yes.
Not a skip on that bitch.
There probably isn't.
And it age is amazing.
Like you can go.
That fucking album is amazing.
I mean, say goodbye is a generational
R&B song. Yeah. So is popping.
Like all of those songs are fucking amazing.
Like, ain't no way plays at every R&B party I go to.
Like, that's a classic album.
Yeah. No, you're not wrong. I just think
why I never say that is because I was 15 when this came out.
I feel like adults at that time probably didn't view it as a classic.
But I hear you.
I mean, yo is one of the greatest R&B songs ever.
Yeah.
And that's a perfect album, man.
Your man ain't me.
Dirty Macon Hall of Fame.
He ain't fly.
He don't even drive.
No, the ad lives in the back is repeating,
he ain't me is fucking the most dirty mac and shit ever.
Don't whisper that shit in the ad lives that I could hear just in my right headphone.
Fucking classic, man.
He ain't me.
For show.
But yeah.
But no, congrats to Chris Brown.
I need more time with that to give a proper, proper review.
I like it.
27 records in one weekend,
I would be doing a disservice to one of the greats of our time.
I also think that, like, I get, like,
I get that for rap albums.
I don't really feel that way about R&B albums.
Maybe it's because I grew up listening to Janet Jackson albums
that were always that long.
I don't feel like that's super,
I feel like it's long, but it's not that bad.
It's 27 tracks, but it's a short album, though.
It's only like an hour and, I think, 30 minutes or something like that.
It's not like a super long album.
Yeah.
Like I don't think that that's that long
For rap that's too long
Because rap has more words
That's way too much much like shut up
But for R&B I don't think that that's that bad
Especially because there's probably an interlude
Or something in there like some shorts
Yeah hour and 32 minutes is not long
Yeah it's not bad for our album
I guess
I wasn't mad at it
Like I definitely I like that album
Now if it's a lot of features
That can become a little overstimulating for me
When it's like a lot
Every song is a feature is a little overstimulated
The Henny and the Honeypack had me dying
When I should came on, I was like,
alright, Chris, what you on, bro?
That's the song in there?
Henny and Honeypack.
Yeah.
Is it good?
No, his song is good.
I just think it should have named something that was.
But the hook is Henny and the Honeypack.
Like, I laugh when it came on.
I'm like, yo, Chris, like, you got to chill, though.
Okay, okay.
Is it relatable?
Well, I never did.
I never did Henny in the Honeypack, but I'm just saying,
like, I just think Chris is just like,
Chris Brown shouldn't be his hook on his album shouldn't be
Henny and the Honeyback.
Amen.
I get it.
It's a reflective of the time.
Listen, he living in his rhymes, B.
I ain't mad at it.
The Vives record is the only record
that I had that threw me.
That was the only record where I was like,
all right, bro.
Like, I'm gonna hit Munch got to keep you out of Jamaica.
Like, you can't keep going to Jamaica or Munch.
Like, she got you going crazy.
Have y'all, um,
bought your tickets for the, for the tour?
No, not yet.
For Kristen, I shouldn't.
I haven't.
I'm waiting for that,
uh, live nation, um,
court case to finish
so I don't have to pay the fees
the marriage thing like we ran to the site
soon as it opened it was like yo we got to get
the CB and usher tickets
yeah you I'm saying niggas is getting too much money
they buy and resell my bad my bad
no it ain't that it's just that I wasn't
I wasn't rushing to get like running to get the tickets
oh okay and that live nation lawsuit
they're trying to get rid of that that you could only
resell what you paid for
oh really yeah so I'm I'm waiting
it's the opposite of getting money.
I'm broke.
I'm trying to get a promise.
I want to pay the regular price.
I didn't know that that was a lawsuit that was going on right now.
It's a really big one.
Okay.
But I mean, I always want to talk about this stuff,
but I feel like a lot of our listeners, like,
that's something I enjoy to talk about,
not what people want to hear about.
But yeah, follow that lawsuit.
It's getting kind of crazy.
They're trying to say Live Nation is a monopoly,
which they have a case.
they could just buy them tickets themselves and just
they own the venues the promoters
deals with the artists like yeah
no one else can they bought up all the small venues
irving plaza is a live nation
oh wow that's crazy
so if i got if i got to go tour and i'm doing 500 seat
shit i have to go through live nation yeah it's it's
it's crazy and then
they're also overcharging us with fees that don't even really
exist like i'm not paying a convenience fee
It's not convenient that the fuck are you talking about.
And it's hard to, you know, you used to be able to go to the box office and just buy tickets.
They've made that weird now.
Yeah.
So definitely if you're in a nerdy shit like me, go looking at that case.
It is very interesting.
There hasn't been a verdict yet.
And I know there's multiple lawsuits within the lawsuit.
It's going to be one of those that last, I think, you know, two or three years before we get there.
Oh, Ticketmasters included because, oh, Live Nation owns Ticketmaster.
didn't know that.
No, so it's a monopoly.
Oh, I don't know that.
That's crazy.
It's 100% of monopoly.
All right.
That's why they get away with all these random charges that they make you pay when you buy a ticket.
So.
Because I was when I asked my little sisters and them what they pay for the Usher and Chris Brown tickets.
And they were like, we're like four rows back.
And we paid $850 in Syracuse.
And I looked at them like cross-eyed.
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
Like, are you $850 fucking dollars?
Well, they were probably $5.
500 and then when they got to checkout it became 800.
It's taxes and fees.
That's, that's, even with like inflation, that's fucking insane.
Yeah.
Gatuity.
No, that's wild.
Sides.
But, I mean, if any show is going to be 800 bucks, I,
Usher and Chris Brown, I sort of.
That's a lot, though.
That is, that is too much to see.
That's too much.
Live music.
I mean, I put, I put, I.
It ain't worth $850 to see no artist is not.
For a show.
I think we've like, y'all know like
cons, niggas was watching Michael Jackson
for $100.
Michael fucking Jackson, $150, $200.
Yeah, that's $800 right now.
Yeah, but the niggas was all the way in the back though.
No, bro.
Nobody paid $100 for a front row
Michael Jackson ticket.
We're not doing it.
I'm sure there wasn't all the way in the back.
They might have been in the middle.
In the middle?
The niggas was up there with Messia's jersey, man.
Niggas wasn't in the front row to see Mike for $100, man.
You crazy?
Pull it up.
How much is the tickets?
Ryan's pulling it up right now.
Man,
niggas was paying $30 to see Michael Jackson, bro.
Where was they sitting at?
It don't matter.
That's euro, first of all.
Yeah, that's $17.50 of euros, which back then was like what?
Wimbley Stadium.
Wimbley Stadium.
You know, them niggas, couldn't even see Mike.
They heard him.
They couldn't see him.
1750 at Wembley Stadium in 88.
All right.
$17.1888 is the equivalent to $47
now. Almost triple. Almost triple.
No, that's kind of, even if they were in the last row.
The last row now was fucking $400.
Man, listen, for Chris Brown and Usher, they're going to put on the show.
And shit, looking at what festival stuff is, Woodstock was $18.
Damn.
That's a buck 60 right now.
Which I got, I mean, you could get a festival ticket for $160.
Hell yeah.
You can.
Yeah, it's like Roots Picnic, though.
Where Jay-Z's performing.
Yeah, but when people was buying their tickets, when they put up the prices of them tickets, like, people ain't know Jay-Z was performing.
Are you seeing what I'm saying?
Yeah, but I mean.
People had bought their roots tickets before they now.
They bought at Usher.
They felt like they always have a crazy headliner.
And for two days, that's not a bad.
That's great.
Yeah.
For two days.
Yeah.
Bucks 60.
I mean, well, no, that's why festival started to, to like,
When is because, all right, I might pay a buck 60 to see one artist or a buck 60 to see 75.
Like I'm paying that buck 60.
For sure.
Yeah.
That's definitely a good deal.
For sure.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Even when I pay Beyonce, a 700 for Beyonce and I was front row, like not front row, but I was in the front on the floor seats.
I was like, okay, that's high.
It's high.
But it's Beyonce.
It's Renaissance.
It's a moment.
But I can't see myself paying $700 for any other artists, $800, $900, $900.
$900.
$900.
And they were willing to pay a thousand.
I was like, that's fucking insane.
The demand of production value is crazy.
It's like Mike, everything I've watched is Mike being an incredible dancer and vocalist
and they were incredible shows.
But when I saw on the run, the stage went from one side of the field to the other.
Like the production value you have to put into stadium stuff to justify.
I watch Chris Brown fly around MetLife.
Fly.
Yeah, it's going to cost a lot to make that show happen.
For sure.
Baby, D, are you ready to apologize?
Because you kind of like went crazy on me
when we were talking about the hottest rap list?
That was the quintessential reaction
from a woman when you say,
are you ready to?
Well, I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
Because why would you ever, like,
you would never.
And I said that, and I named Don Tolliver.
I didn't say that you were crazy for saying Don Tolliver.
I said that.
No, you told her she was like,
I was in Houston for a week.
I ain't hit no Don Tolliver.
I want an apology, too.
Okay.
Because I was on my side.
Well, let's, I'm not disrespecting Don Tolover.
What me, you got into a back and forth about was that at the time, the date where they stopped the list, right?
Because they had Jay Cole higher than Don Tolliver.
And at the date they stopped the list, which was a little bit after the falloff came out, I said, Don Tolliver at the time of the list was not hotter than Jay Cole when the falloff drop.
I don't think that that's a crazy take.
And I'm not apologizing for that.
He was hotter than he's hotter now.
Okay.
He hasn't let up.
I'm not.
No, Don Tulliver is probably the hottest.
No, the octane numbers are like, they should be studied right now.
I've never seen an album maintained in this era the way Oxan has.
Don Tulliver is probably the hottest rapper right now.
It's fucking nuts.
He's been the hottest rapper.
He was not hotter than Jay Cole in the fall.
Also, have you listened to Octane?
That's just my opinion.
I'm there are some of it.
But that's just,
it's also like usually when albums do this shit
is because the kids and his music I fucking hate.
That Octane album is incredible.
Like, it's the best album this year so far.
I'm not mad at that take at all.
it's really good
I'm not mad at
I'm not mad at mall's take either
but I'm also
I'm not apologizing for what I say
because what I said
still makes perfect sense
no it doesn't
okay
Jay Cole was never hotter
than this thing
this shit
no I mean the week
of the falloff
J. Coe was the hottest
rapper so you think
they based it on that week
not even that week
leading up to the falloff
outside of sales
because obviously
before the falloff
the falloff hadn't come out yet
outside of sales
yes everybody was talking about J.coe
y'all might have talked
about John Tulliver
on this motherfucking podcast
once or twice
You can't hear talking about Jay Cole for two months.
Like, I don't think what I said is crazy.
If you're talking about hype and anticipation.
I hear you on that time.
Yes.
Niggas been waiting for the fall off since the fucking beef.
Like, I'm not, I don't think that that's crazy.
But shout out to Don and he deserves everything that he's getting.
The music is good.
And he is hot as fuck.
He is probably the hottest rapper right now, for sure.
Probably.
Probably, yeah.
I would have to look at some shit.
But yeah, I'm not mad at somebody saying he's the hottest rapper right now.
Did you see his?
rolling the outset?
No, I didn't watch any of the road.
Outside of Trims, I didn't watch any of the roll in all of six.
He's selling like 200 weeks.
Just look at one of those clips.
Actually, just look at when he came out.
But he was hot when we saw, his show,
they went crazy when we saw him in America that year.
Remember that?
And he's probably double as popular.
Mm-hmm.
Since then.
Maybe even triple.
But no, I did see close from his set.
It did look great.
Shout to him.
He love a forest on stage, doesn't me?
Why is Don Tulliver always in the woods?
I mean, you know, it's that I'm team.
Is he from Houston, too?
Where's Don Tulliver from?
He's from Texas, I believe.
Okay.
That's great.
Well, shit, shout out to Rolling Loud, because that's crazy.
He's from Houston.
That's correct.
And it was a nonviolent rolling loud, right?
Everyone in the city of Orlando was safe.
I haven't heard anything.
Okay.
Love to hear that type of stuff.
Yeah.
A college four player got shot at Rolling Loud.
Okay, but was that like Florida State shit or was that because it's rolling loud?
Yeah, there's somebody recognized him.
It's like a rivalry or something.
Like, I don't, as the rolling loud is live.
I'm glad he's okay at least.
Yeah, hopefully he is okay.
Playboy Cardi's security.
What that's a regular little?
Yeah, that just sounds like, you know, there's something like should happen at a festival.
He was shot in Mississippi.
I think that's part of Playboy Cardi set.
Yeah.
He's what?
Amad Hardy was.
shot from the Missouri running back was shot in Mississippi at a concert.
He was not at rolling law.
He's trying to put that on RL.
He's trying to put it on RL.
Don't do that.
RL's a,
you know what I mean?
They run a very safe establishment, man.
Very safe.
Safe.
There's a rolling out loud movie?
Oh, is there?
Oh,
congratsful.
Yeah,
of course I go see it.
I mean,
it's one of,
again,
not my cup of tea with a lot of the artists they have on there and the crowd
that goes,
but it's definitely one of the most iconic festivals in hip-hop history.
Oh,
it's going to be a comedy film.
Owen Wilson, Matt Rife, Christine Cole.
Owen Wilson and Matt Rife?
Is it script?
It's upcoming American comedy film written and directed by Jeremy Gerlich.
The film stars Owen Wilson, Christian Convery, Matt Rife, Kristen Cole, Henry Winkler, and Olivia
LaCardy.
Wait, so, okay, is it happened to be called Rolling Loud, or this is about the creation
of Rolling Loud?
I think it's inspired by true story.
Is this social network?
Inspired by a true story.
This comedy is a story of an overprotected father who attempts to buy him with his 13-year-old son
by sneaking him into the Roland Loud
hip hop music festival.
Oh, this is gonna be a...
Oh, no, that actually sounds like a great.
That's some Harold Kumar go to White Castle
but for...
Rollin' loud.
All right, yeah.
And good for Rolling Loud,
because I know that's gonna bring this shitty.
Live Nation productions.
Right back.
They right back.
It all comes together.
You thought they wasn't gonna get PC?
You thought they wasn't going to...
They probably own Regal too.
Shout out to live...
Oh, man.
We ain't got no choice.
I was about to say, don't we got like, we got connects there.
Shout out to Live Nation.
We'd love to do a Rolling Loud, you know what I'm saying, invite us.
I'd be so scared to just be in the Rolling Loud crowd.
Really?
It just scares me.
I don't know.
I feel safer in a Crip neighborhood in Flatbush.
Young kids on drugs terrify me.
I don't, because they're unpredictable.
You have no idea what's going to happen.
Yeah, but they all are the slow drugs.
Like, I don't think Rolling Loud smells like Coke.
Like I like rollout smells like lean and weed.
I don't know.
You think they ain't doing coke at rolling on like.
I'm sure they are, but I, you know.
Rolling loud books a lot of alleged gang member rappers and I think they're the least scary
people there.
I think them 12 year old white kids are way more terrifying than everyone on that stage.
Nah.
I want to go.
We should go here.
To Rolling Loud?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, they had them in New York for years straight.
Because I think this Orlando one is the only one they're doing this year, right?
Didn't they pull back a little bit?
Yeah.
Because they was doing one every other Tuesday they were doing it.
See, exactly.
They hit that girl with a whole recycling bag.
Yes.
Yeah, but it was empty.
What the fuck?
It's not that heavy.
That's why they could throw it that far.
It was empty, man.
That's just like getting hit with the bathroom.
Exactly, de Merris.
I know when I'm in a gang neighborhood, what can happen?
There is some predictability there.
I would be standing watching Don Tolliver and a fucking recycling bin would hit my head.
No, I don't want to be there.
We go viral.
No, I'm cool.
So, what would you guys say if I went viral for being hit with a recycling bin?
Thank you for your sacrifice.
Would that get us to the next level?
Probably.
Honestly, if you streamed it.
I'm not mad.
That's just a good old-fashioned fair one.
Yeah.
I wouldn't shit on rolling out for that.
That's fine.
That's just, you know, boys will be boys.
It's that guy jumping up and down with the cat mask on that I'm more scared of.
Not these two guys having a fair one.
Have you guys heard of the artist trim?
She's one of the kids, and our keeping up with the kids segment.
The artist trim.
No.
So she has that boat song that went super viral and everything.
And she gets a lot of Nicki Minaj comparisons.
So they were on her ass hard for her.
Oh my God.
She looks like a mini-Nicky.
Yeah.
They were on her.
And if you hear the song, if you hear the way she wraps it, this, yeah.
They're like kind of trying to make her, market her as a young Nicki Minaj.
Jesus Christ
Is that her child?
Like for real?
You've heard,
play this song real quick,
we'll take it out,
but.
That's the Nicki clone.
But then again,
respectfully,
a majority of a lot of the new female wave
is,
it's Nicky's kids.
This one is like carbon copy shit,
but with a lot of the,
the bigger female rappers
that go in that lane,
I'm not saying like a little Sims Rhapsody
that world.
It's Nikki's DNA like everywhere.
Well, if you want to succeed,
if you want to sell records and succeed,
you have to look at Nikki's career.
She's the highest selling female rapper.
But I'm even like saying down to cadence,
like everything is kind of derives from Nikki in that world.
I think with her, yes, and with some of them,
but I think with the newer,
the newer female rappers,
they're all from the South and they sound.
like they're from the South. I think it's a little bit different.
Oh, yeah.
Doshi has her moments where she sounds like Nikki.
But I've been Jocci's admitted that. There's nothing wrong with being influenced by
Nikki. She's one of the greatest.
For sure. But I think the South has taken-
Doja has Nikki DNA everywhere.
Like, it exists with the bigger female rappers in my opinion.
I'm not saying every pussy rapper sounds like Nikki.
But I'm saying the- Her DNA is all over the sport. You can't deny that.
But this one-
It's dudes that rap like Nikki now.
For sure. But this one found-
You know, I'm sorry.
Like, if we keep it in it a buck.
Dude's rapping like Nikki is fucking hilarious, man.
Would dude rap like Nikki?
I'm not saying it.
Nah, that's cool, man.
Roll it loud, man.
Keep it up with the kids.
Maybe I missed it.
Maybe my ear didn't pick up Nikki bars and Nikki Flo.
I just need to hear what, you know what, who was a spy by Nikki on the mail side.
That's all.
Saucy Santana.
So you said Trim did what now?
She did.
I'm not listening to.
Shout on Sosy Santana, by the way.
Trim did what?
Saucy Tansana makes a really good music.
No, I agree. I'm really, I'm just fucking around.
So with Trim, outside of the Nicki
comparisons of like the song, when the song
first came out, the pink hair or whatever, that she
came out with whatever, they're killing
her because of her lack of breath control.
She's shouting the lyrics. And I just felt like they were
being a little hard on her and like they do with
newer female rappers because rolling loud is a big
fucking stage for somebody who has one viral
hit and it's like they throw you on the rolling
loud.
I'm not. It takes years to learn that.
And the world is must.
I agree to Maris.
I'm not letting you add that.
They kill everyone
at Rolling Loud that stinks.
Yeah, they killed Ice Vice.
Remember that?
Well, she's...
That didn't really help with my point.
Yeah, nice.
What?
Why?
I'm saying they kill men, too,
that suck of performing rolling on.
Oh, yeah.
They just killed.
What was it?
Rakey?
Black Boy Max was fucking booed.
Like, but I also think...
I didn't even know Cowboy Max made music.
That's this platform when he streams.
He's making music.
He has other artists come in, too.
But yeah, he's like...
Okay.
Which I think is cool.
He's one of the only streamer.
that does that. I think that's actually really cool.
I didn't know that though.
I mean, like, his music isn't like my shit,
but I do respect that he adds
that element into streaming.
But with that said, I don't care
how young the artist is or whatever. You should get killed
if you're rapping over your
song. Like, if you're, the lyrics
are there, yeah, you should get killed.
Like, what's the little Nicki girl?
Her name's trim.
Okay, she should get killed.
That's awful.
Why can't we can't hold artists
to high standards?
If I'm paying $800 to go to a fucking concert,
I can't hold an artist to a high standard that you,
please don't rap over the track,
like know what you're doing?
I don't even think it's the rapping over the track.
That's not what she could kill.
All the rappers wrap over their tracks now, all of them.
And they should all get killed for it.
I don't, I hear you,
as long as I can hear you over the track.
As long as I can hear you over the track.
I can stay home and listen to the song in my car.
If there's a back track.
Yeah, nah, rappers can't do that.
I hear you.
I used to throw the same play.
Maybe.
but like the verse
I don't want to hear that
I had the TV track
have just the last bar
so in case you fuck up
just the ad lips
yeah
but the vote
the lead should be you
I don't think we're being
get off my lawn here
at all like we should
hold music to some
live music to some
fucking standard
at some point
I paid to see a show
I didn't pay to hear you
fucking do karaoke
yeah
I don't think that's crazy
to ask as a fan
that I want to see
you actually wrap the song
like
what I was saying
was they were killing her.
And I feel like they killed.
It's not just her, but they were killing her for having a lack of breath control when
she was rapping.
She was running out of breath, running across the stage.
I'm like, that's, she's a, she just has one song.
Yeah.
She's not, she's not, she's not.
Yeah, she got, this is her learning experience.
She's, she'll learn from this, you know what I'm saying?
And hopefully she'll get better.
Yeah.
But I don't think you can call a rapper trash because they're, they have one hit song and
this is their first big show.
And they're, they're trying to run across a rolling outstage.
and they're running out of breath.
Tell them to get better, but yeah.
No, you can call them a trash performer.
I'm not saying that she doesn't have time to rehearse and get better or anything,
but even when Ice Spice went from unknown to two weeks later on the rolling loud stage,
like, I get it.
That's nuts.
And I wouldn't even know how to do that.
But I can still say it's trash.
Yeah.
Well, so with Ice Spice was a little different.
And I could like, don't miss the look either.
I get like, I'm not saying you should say no to it.
Yeah.
Ice's thing was ice.
I remember people used to complain that ice was boring.
It was like ice used to just kind of sit there and
Yeah, everyone was waiting for her to twerk.
This one was had a lot of energy
And because she's not trained
When you have a lot of energy and you're really performing,
you will run out of breath very fast
If you don't learn breath control.
And that was the issue.
It wasn't like you're not trying,
but you run out of breath
Because you're trying so hard.
Yeah.
Or where to hold the mic
On certain bars, how far to keep it away from you
When to bring it like that takes a lot of time.
Yeah.
It does.
But I also.
don't think
that means everyone in that audience
should give her grace.
Like, oh, she needs to learn breath from else.
Shut up.
The people that were complaining were the people
on the internet.
On the internet.
People at the show.
Remember the people at the show.
Well, this is everyone's high in the ground.
Yeah, they're too busy throwing recycling bins,
though, over the face.
They don't even know who's on stage.
Well, that could have caused this bitch has no breath control.
They just throw her recycling bin.
Them kids don't even know what to fuck,
bro.
The kids are on drugs, man.
But I don't know.
I do think we should still hold the artist to a standing.
I don't care how much time we spend there.
I mean, at least, that's the least we could do it.
Like, we let them do everything else.
Can we still hold them to some type of standard?
Like, when it comes to live performance, I mean, they don't got to be talented no more.
Ain't got to be have bars.
They ain't got to be dope.
We don't took that off the table.
Like, nah, just, you know, just vibes.
We just want you to vibe.
You ain't really got to say shit.
We gave them that.
Now we don't care if the live show sucks or not.
Come on, man.
Yeah.
But I'm not putting too much stock into trim, not having a.
a good rolling out performance because she's a she's a new artist big states and try to cover at rolling
loud festival you know like and she was trying i'm cool with an artist not having a good show if i see
them trying if your issue is you're running out of breath because you're trying so hard i'm not mad at
it's not i want to see her i want to see her next year this time yeah next year this time if it's
not not any you know development any growth in her live performance then it's like all right shoddy
like we saw you lashing rolling loud we gave you grace because you know it's your first time out
But take this moment, learn from it
and build on it, that's all.
Why were they throwing garbage
at Black Boy Max?
Admittedly, I didn't like pay that much attention.
I think that's just something they do.
They throw water bottles.
Well, no, clearly we see they throw
over cycling bins.
Yeah, but they just throw shit.
That's why the bins are empty because they're throwing all the trash.
Throwing loud.
Throwing loud.
Throwing loud.
Wait, somebody commented to say,
why they throwing his music at him?
All right, man.
They're terrible.
That's fucked up.
That's what nobody want to do, like, shows now.
Because we got to see this type of shit.
on line after that.
Yeah, they said another
streamer went up there
and got booed off the stage.
He came to like turn the crowd up.
He got booed off the stage.
That was Raqai.
They booed Rakai ass.
That was the one clip I saw.
I was like, damn.
No, the comment.
Look at Rakai.
Look at Raqa.
Look how he came out.
He thought it was love.
Nah, we're not fucking with you.
What did he do?
Damn, why he pissed the people off?
Man, they wasn't fucking with Rakai.
I don't know.
Is it because their fans don't lead a house?
Like, their real fans don't lead a house?
so it's a different
I could see that
different audience
See?
See, then is that.
Guys don't say
that's not really artists
Well, he wasn't performing
though he came to turn the crowd up
Like kind of like a,
you know, like an emcee
like he's hosting
Oh, that's what he was doing?
I thought he was performing.
Yeah, you got to
booing the MC is crazy
Booing the nigger
that's trying to just like
introduce somebody
like
Booing the guy that says,
yo make some noise if you're in college
Make some noise if you're safe
Are you all right
Ryan play it
So I can hear
I respect that he did that though
Boo
Yeah
Orlando
Orlando got no love
for Dr. Tran's new dog
Yeah yeah
Yeah
Yeah, yeah
In Under Armour
In Under Armour
Yeah
But you got to understand
the baby set the standard so high
for make some noise at Rolling Loud.
Once you say make some noise
you're being sucking man's dick in the parking lot,
where do you go from there at Rolling Loud?
Yeah.
The bar is here, see?
That's what happens.
So now everybody else is a disappointment
because what the baby did was unprecedented.
Like Fat Man Scoop started
would make some noise
if you have $5 in your pocket
and the baby took it to a whole...
Yeah, took to a whole level.
Can you imagine, like,
standing next to your homeboy and he don't make noise?
when the baby asks that?
Oh, then I got to ask my man
Is it something he wants to talk about?
Especially because we drove together.
Especially because we're in the same cause.
Why you ain't making it?
You got a tabby and a nigga like, make some noise for people think something.
Like, come on now, yeah.
Scream, nigger.
And which that puts you in a position too
because we've talked about on this podcast many times.
We're not the people that, yeah, like make some noise at concerts.
We're not those people.
Hell no.
He would pin me in a corner there.
Because I'd be like, fuck, now I've got to scream.
Yeah, yeah.
That would be the one time I make mad noise.
Like, nah, me and Rory ain't do it.
None of that in the parking lot of it.
Yeah, fuck that.
Plag Boy Max had some video outside of Rolling Loud where he had a little zest in a step.
And somebody commented, why is being fake gay the new aesthetic?
That knew.
They've been on that.
That's been the way.
Yeah.
I don't know Plag Boy Max's sexuality, but he had a video that people were questioning.
I don't know enough about it.
I don't want to put that on anyone.
Yeah, that one.
Oh.
Oh.
He good at it.
But what is that?
That was Demaris's version of, I see you.
Yeah, yeah.
What is that, though?
I don't know.
Is that?
Oh, yeah, Trim has a new song called Coldnut Water.
But I don't know if he was just, you know, doing his thing.
Is that a move?
It's not viral.
It's over in my algorithm.
I don't know.
Okay.
I thought I was like a dance or something.
I've seen certain men vibe to Nikki's music the same way.
And they, never mind.
Yeah, I mean, listen, man, shout out to rolling loud.
Oh, is he vulgar?
Oh, maybe he...
Nah.
Listen, we have been big supporters of Plat Boy Max on this platform.
With the complex list, the first time he was at it,
I thought it was the best option.
Continued success.
We don't care.
Fruit boots is funny.
Fruit boots instead of fruit loops is funny.
But I mean, you know, hey, do y'all think?
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AP
AP
has a
got an AP
come out
yeah
they're sleeping
outside
right now
for that
shit
you
you serious
yeah
Yeah.
That's...
Because you know what they're going to do.
It's a $500.
They're going to try to flip it for like $5,000.
You know that.
You know what's great to happen.
I miss when G-shocks were popping
because I could afford them.
Well, this is the new G-shop.
That's the new G-shock.
Ooh, the 16-year-old is going to need that
for the A Sweet 16 this year.
What?
The AP swatch?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I did see rich people very upset about this.
Not really.
It does, it does devalue the person.
a bit. Yeah, I'm about to get rid of my AP.
Yeah, right. I have to.
I can't do that now. You have to get rid of your AP?
I have to now.
All right, when you get rid of it, show me what trash can you throw it in so I can grab it?
No, not. I'm not throwing it out. I got, you know me? I got to get something else now.
Because they did this? Yeah.
But you don't have the swatch one. I know. You have the regular AP. I know.
I'm sure Jeff Bezos and Jay-Z and them are not upset about this. I'm sure they don't give a fuck.
Nobody cares.
No, I agree with you there.
All right, fake rich people are upset about this entire.
I stand corrected.
Yes, fake rich people think it devalued the brand.
But they have a point.
They don't want their peers being able to afford something that's similar to what they save their lives for.
That's what is given.
I think that that's so corny.
I don't think it devalues the brand.
It's something like.
Oh, yeah, DDG said.
I mean, as a customer, I am pissed.
I can't rock an AP like that anymore.
From DDG.
Okay, but they did the iPhone C.
And I still kept my iPhone.
It's not to see.
Yeah, but if iPhone does it...
Remember the iPhone C?
If iPhone does a collab with, you know, another phone.
And it's like, hi, fam, like...
Yeah, if they, if the iPhone did it, like, a Motorola flip, yeah.
Collap should be fired.
I like that.
My thing is, why are they doing this collab?
That's my, that's my thing.
Like, I don't, you know, it's like, why is AP and SWATs doing a collab?
Like, why?
I just don't understand.
the reasoning behind it.
Just wait for the Rolls Royce and Honda collab.
It's coming.
Yeah, so I understand, you know, watch collectors and it's just like art too.
You know, it's like you're doing the collab.
It's like if you have an extensive wine collection and one of your favorite wine brands does a collab with Mad Dog 2020, you're going to be like, all right, fam.
You're doing a sane-odd's collab.
Like.
Be nostalgic.
I mean, I could just understand how some people would be like, all right, what we doing?
Like, you know, it just kind of just why.
want to know why AP decided to do that.
So you hate Boone's Farm is what you're saying.
I just want to know why AP decided to do that.
I think it'd be cute for the kids.
I'm happy that they're going to get the Flex Sailor watches.
I think that that's cute.
I don't think there's anything wrong.
Like when Kanye did the Red October's that were fucking, what, like five grand to get?
Oh, Red October's was a time.
And an incredible shoe.
And then when he switched over to Adidas, I love that Kanye's goal was to make shit affordable
that people could get.
Like, I get the theory, like when Dame explains, he didn't want to sell the S-Carter sneaker for $40 because we're putting Jay-Z's name on a $40 sneaker.
Now, Jay-Z is worth $40.
Like, in what sneaker market?
Yeah, once you put a price on that, now that's your price forever.
But when you're AP already, I don't think there's anything wrong with having that tier of shit.
No, I just wanted to know why they decided to do it.
I just, I didn't, I didn't read up on it and, you know, to understand why they decided to collab.
But listen, I mean, you know, let the kids get their AP and flip it for like $5,000 or something like that.
Somebody had paid for it.
Yeah.
Why was everyone mad at the Nick Cannon and DDG whiling out?
I've heard way worse shit on that.
What did they say?
Chigo and Carlos with Safari was 30 times worse than anything.
I think everybody was going crazy over the line where Nick Cannon basically said like, you can't see your son.
funny
yeah you can't
and then uh
DDG's uh
I guess his real spicy retort
because he came back with some we only know you from Mariah Carey and it like
boo
they said that 10,000 times over it.
Yeah and then um which is just also not true um
and then he came back with um
you got autumn kids you should have aborted some or something like that's
well that's how he started it you should have aborted
yeah some of your kids so I think it's very fair to come back and say well
At least I can see mine.
My baby mother allows me to see them.
Yeah.
Funny.
Yeah.
DDG was up there stumbling, though.
He was.
Ooh, that was rough.
He was like, oh, that didn't get no rapper.
That was rough.
But, I mean, there's plenty of actual rappers that have been on,
and no disrespect.
I mean to say actual rappers because DDG does make music.
That have been up there.
And had a rough time?
They opted, like, legendary rappers have kind of opted out.
like I'm not quick on my feet like that.
And I don't freestyle like they've been rehearsing this shit.
Like these guys have these lines written in their heads already.
This is a different realm.
That's not for everybody.
So DDG got up there and he dropped the ball.
Stelling the way most people if they had to actually freestyle.
And after you told me like you brought up like some personal shit.
You brought up some personal shit.
Now I'm emotional and I'm trying to think of my feet like, ah, you got to have your shit written for Nick.
You know you're going out while and out?
Yeah, you know you're going to have something like you already, you got bars for Nick.
You got to go up there prepared.
I ain't going up there trying to really freestyle.
Because Nick is going to be prepared too.
You can tell Nick has, you can tell it's freestyle.
It's writers on the show that give Nick bars like that.
No, but I'm saying even stuff that he's replying to someone else on the spot that wasn't planned.
I've seen Nick go.
I mean, obviously like Carlos and Chico are the goats at that shit.
But Nick is really good.
Yeah.
Nick,
Nick could rap with anybody on Wilden Up.
Without writers.
Like,
I religiously watched every season of Wilden out.
And there was definitely stuff that,
I don't know what was still on.
Well,
they're starting the new,
because remember the whole Nick
said something about a certain group of people?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So,
but,
you know,
they took a little break.
We'll be right back.
Nick had to do some homework.
Yeah.
He had to go to the museum.
He had some things to do
But yeah,
That is coming back
And I mean, I love Wiling Out
So I'm happy that
21 seasons
Damn, saluted Nick Cannon, man
For sure
Nick Nick is a fucking legend
Bye for money, baby
But on the comedy side
Did you guys watch the roast of Kevin Hart yesterday?
Yes, a couple clips
Yes, I did.
Shout out to Kevin Hart
He got his live roast on Netflix.
I thought it was pretty good.
I thought it
No, I loved it
Out the gate it was a little
shaky when Tom Brady started it
I was like, where it was?
Tom Brady wasn't that bad
He was Tom Brady
Of course, but like throw that
sandwich that in between two comedic
Like starting out
With Tom was like, all right
The Usher shit made me laugh
And then I don't know, it just got off to a rocky star
But other than that it was great
Who was the, who you thought stole the show?
Um
I mean the rock gave us no choice
yeah I said the rock came out it was clear
it was like guys there's celebrities and then there's
there's just different that's all
but the rock was funny
yeah he was
but the rock has just gonna sound crazy
and we'll get to like the actual comedies a second
Lizzo wasn't bad I know she giggled through a lot of
I didn't know Lizzo was that funny
like Lizzo was really has really good comedic timing
yeah because even when you have people that are not comedians
and someone else writes their stuff for them
you can hear it just they're just
Yeah, they just suck at reading it.
Like, Lizzo was really good.
Draymond wasn't bad for a basketball player.
Jamon wasn't bad.
Dremont saying, I wouldn't fuck Cheskey Handler because I'm Jemarine.
I don't hit threes.
That made me giggle.
That was funny.
Tony Hinchcliff, who's one of the best at it, probably his worst row set.
I was actually a little disappointed.
That was my kind of thing.
Tony is so good at that stuff that I'm holding him to a Tony standard.
Like, coming off to Tom Brady roast, he had one of the best sets by far.
It was kind of like Lester for Tony, in my opinion.
Cheryl Underwood was great.
She was fucking hilarious.
She was hilarious, yeah.
Sherr Underwood was great.
Yeah, she was, I mean, Shane did a really good job.
Regina Holt was funny too, though.
She acted like she was, like, channeling Kevin's mom from heaven, like, her thoughts
and what she was saying.
It took a bit to, like, get into the joke.
Yeah.
But once she got into it, that shit was.
fucking hilarious.
Yeah.
But,
yeah,
I thought it was great.
We thought about cat
coming out.
Amazing.
Yeah.
And I'm,
I'm glad that they,
they deaded their beef there.
I actually believe this one.
I didn't really believe
the Bill Belichick
and Robert Kraft one at the time,
but I didn't believe that first.
Yeah,
that was the faggest hug
I've ever seen.
Yeah,
I think that cat and kev,
I think they really pieced it up.
I think that was,
I'm sure they've had a conversation.
And I love the fact that Kev didn't know
cat was coming out.
Like that was like,
he probably did,
but,
no,
he didn't.
You can see it in his face.
Like when, when,
yeah, she bought him out.
You could, you could tell he was like, oh, shit.
Like, all right.
Like, didn't expect him to.
But I didn't, it was funny that Chris Rock wasn't there.
It was funny that, uh, Chappelle wasn't there and Eddie Murphy because they was all together
for the brunch.
Mm.
The comedy brunch.
So when I saw the pictures of all them at the comedy brunch, I'm like, oh, shit,
they probably all going to come out for Keb's roast as well.
So when Eddie Murphy wasn't there and Dave wasn't there and, you know, obviously Dave has a
relationship with Netflix.
Chris Rock has a relationship with Netflix.
So for them not to beat it, it was kind of like, it's a little interesting.
Why wasn't they at Rose?
I mean, I can just, obviously just speculate.
I feel like when you're at that, like, goat level and you've never done the roast,
the pressure to be the best there.
Like, let me just stay out of this world.
Yeah.
Nah, hell not.
I'm thinking it was more of a money thing.
They probably was like, you know how much we're going to give Eddie and Dave and Chris to
John? Well, I forgot who said it. I thought it was funny. They said the reason your Netflix
account keeps going up in price is because Chappelle does speeches on there. Yeah. Naimeland said
that. Yeah, yeah, he was shooting at Chappelle. The whole, is there something personal with it?
Not like, for real. But it was very odd that he dedicated half of his set, which was great.
To somebody that was it did? Well, it was on Netflix. So he probably was like shit. Dave has probably
made more money from his Netflix special than any other comedian.
But I'm trying to think, because Chappelle has made a lot of Kevin Hard jokes in
in most of his specials.
There's always like a Kev shot somewhere.
Yeah, but they fuck with each other.
No, no, for sure.
But I'm trying to think if he ever said
some like plastic cutboys.
Probably did, but that's part of it, though.
That's part of that culture.
Like, you're going to say something
you said about me.
All right, nigga, I got you.
But I don't know if it's personal.
I don't know if it's like real, you know,
tension and nothing there.
But I did expect,
once we saw the pictures come out
with all of the comedians at the brunch.
Netflix is a joke brunch.
I definitely thought that Eddie Murphy
and Dave and Chris were going to be at the roast.
But I just, I don't know that the pressure of those three,
if they always did roast, it would make sense.
But I feel like they'd have to have the most iconic roast set ever.
The pressure would be so crazy.
Who?
I think Chris Rock has done somebody's roast before.
I'm sure Chris Rock has done one.
I don't know about, I'm sure Eddie Murphy hasn't, though.
Chris Rock and roast, I can't.
I think Chris Rock, he roasted somebody, I believe.
No, I mean, he's done monologues where he's done,
but like a specific like comedy central roast.
I can't remember any of that.
But, um,
I feel like Chris did one.
But I was shot,
I mean,
you know,
Bill Burr and Kev came up together in New York.
Mm-hmm.
I was,
I was hoping he would have been part of it,
but the same thing.
I don't know.
Like,
Bill Burr has done the roast of like Jim Norton and shit
in a comedy club that you can kind of YouTube.
Yeah.
But he's never done like the quintessential one.
Um,
it would have been great.
Rest and peace to produce,
uh,
Patrice also came up with Kev.
They used to live together.
Mm-hmm.
Like,
that would have been fucking.
incredible to get Patrice in that.
But I thought it was a really good roast.
Yeah, I thought it was.
Big Jay got, he actually tricked me with his setup.
I thought, I was like, Keith Robinson is dead?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I was like, yo, what the fuck?
I had no idea because I thought I missed that shit.
And then they cut to him in the crowd.
I was like, all right, man.
That was hilarious.
He said, he's not.
He said he was dead to me.
He got with Dave.
After Dave got rich.
No, I literally saw, I was like, yo, what the, how did I miss?
that because wasn't Keith sick to
or is sick? I think so.
That's why I was like, fuck, did I miss that he died?
I saw they made some jokes about
and I'm not being sensitive.
I'm just asking y'all opinion on it.
About Cheryl Lee, not Cheryl Lee, Ralph,
Laura, Cheryl Underwood's husband killing himself?
Yeah, he claims.
Shane did like seven of them throughout the entire time.
But he kept saying that he called her the week before.
Oh, okay.
And she was totally fond with it.
But yeah, they were, they still didn't compare
to the bonsai tree.
Joke that shame.
Kevin Hart was,
he had to hang
himself from a bonsai tree.
That was funny as fucking.
Said if Kevin Hart
was to be lynched
and have to be on a bonsai tree.
I was like,
holy shit.
Yeah, that was funny.
That was funny.
It was good.
I liked it.
I enjoyed it.
I see some people online,
you know,
it seems a little too harsh.
I'm like,
it's a roast.
I thought the Tom Brady one
pushed a crazier line
than this one.
I enjoyed it.
I thought it was good.
Yeah.
But no,
she,
she,
she don't know what was great
and was totally fine
with those jokes being made.
Yeah.
I wouldn't have been,
but I'm also not a comedian,
but I don't think I would have been in it.
Maybe.
At a roast,
you can't be sensitive at a roast.
Don't even go up there.
You can't even go up there.
You know what this is about.
So there's a difference between being sensitive
and like,
my husband killed himself.
Like,
that's a little,
there's some line.
Pete Davidson's dad died in 9-11.
You think that they were like held punches there?
Every roast he.
They were like your dad is rolling around in his rubble right now.
This is what they were saying up there.
Like, you had a roast.
Like you can't fucking have no.
You can't be like, no, you can't say that.
I think the only thing they did say,
I think everybody had to agree that they couldn't talk about Cab's kids.
I think that was the only thing that was often.
Yeah, it was off the table.
I think that was the only thing I was off.
But even Pete,
I forgot what,
I think it was the Justin Bieber roast that Kevin R hosts.
Even Pete said on his set.
Soul plane was the worst thing that happened in my life involving a plane.
Yeah.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so it's that type of environment.
Like, we ain't got time for that emotional.
You shouldn't hear.
You can't be emotional.
Yeah.
It's a roast.
But, no, they, they tore up Tony Inchcliff the whole time.
Rightfully so, though.
I get it.
I understand it.
Even if he's not that fully, he has the stereotype of the complete right-wing
comedian.
Talked to the Trump shit.
Like, yeah, I thought they smoked Tony.
Yeah.
It was good, though.
You needed that in the room too as well.
Yeah, absolutely.
But I do want to rewatch it.
It's just, I watched it on the way.
Well, I wasn't watching it.
I listened to it on the way up from Philly.
I wasn't driving and watching it.
It was three hours.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah, shit, I pulled up to park in front of the studio
and there were still 15 minutes left.
Yeah.
All right, before we get out of here,
once again, congratulations to the New York Knicks.
The New York Knickerbockers.
Completing their sweep of the Philadelphia 786ers.
I don't like it, man.
You don't like what?
The sweep?
It's going too good.
That's that trauma.
That's that PTSD.
It's going too good.
Post-traumatic sweep disorder.
That's funny.
It's going way too good.
I don't fucking like it.
I don't like it at all.
I know what the Pistons are great to come due to y'all.
Nah, I may it celebrate.
As is sometimes, Nick's fan.
Just speak from our perspective.
Would you prefer the calves of the Pistons?
Any team James Hardin's.
on the playoffs.
That's who I want to play.
He showed up last game.
That's last game.
That means he ain't showing up next game.
Tonight at all.
That's all that means.
If you want to bet,
it gets Hardin tonight.
Yeah, fucking the pistons.
They won what?
They was on a,
I think they won what?
How many games in a row?
Up until that was five, six.
It was down three.
Yo, the pisses.
But we just won four.
The pistol was down three one to the Raptors.
Yeah.
Came back and won that series.
The magic.
Came back won that series.
and then won the first two games against the cast.
But I don't think we match up well against the Pistons.
Shit.
I mean, we weren't great against him in the regular season.
One thing I learned about the New York Knicks is you don't want a good guard to come into the playoffs
playing the Knicks because he's going to have a career game.
The Knicks just, it's something about guards when they come into the guard for the playoffs,
they just have career games.
And Cade Cunningham is not the type of guard you want to play against in the playoffs.
The Knicks don't want to see K on the hand.
I can promise you that.
Yeah.
I can promise you that.
The physicality, you know, I just...
Pacers, piston.
Any team with a Pee, just for some reason goes crazy.
No, it just goes crazy in the garden.
Yeah, so I don't know.
It is looking like it's going to be the pistons for the...
I believe the pistons will beat the calves.
But yeah, I don't know, man.
The Knicks look good, though.
So just take that.
The Knicks look good.
Congratulations to them.
Swept their way to the Easter Conference finals.
Like, it scares me that we,
like OG even got to rest.
No, but that's, you should be happy about that.
I love it.
I love that we didn't have to sacrifice.
Yeah, you get some, you know.
Or risk that.
Yeah.
It just scares me.
It's too perfect.
Listen, man, just.
Because in the Knicks world, we'd have to, you know, put OG in a wheelbarrel and
throw them on the court to try to win.
Listen, man, just take it one game at a time from here and out.
That's all.
Just focus on one game at a time.
Uh, I mean, what do you think about your Lakers?
Definitely coming back, right?
No, they'll be back tonight
to play game four.
When they're listening to this now,
the Lakers have been swept.
By the time you listen to this,
the Lakers have been swept.
Turks on three.
Turks on three is hilarious.
It's over for the Lakers.
But yeah, I mean, nobody expected them to be okay.
See, I just, I didn't think they would get swept.
But I mean, hopefully when you listen to this,
maybe they did win game four, maybe.
The way the Knicks are playing,
I think we match up against the Thunderwell.
Like that's why I'm so scared.
Oh, no.
Yeah, nobody matches it.
If we play the way we're playing now, we can beat the Thunder.
I just don't know if that's ever going to happen.
The only team that can beat the Thunder is Spurs, in my opinion.
That's the only team that can beat the Thunder is the Spurs.
I mean, if they get, it's still tied to, too, too.
No, that's a great series.
It's a really good series.
I think they would have won a game four last night if Wembe didn't get ejected.
But, you know, it happens.
It is what it is.
But the Knicks, you know, congrats to the Knicks.
It was a great game from start to finish.
They couldn't miss.
Imagine a world if it's the Timberwolves and the Knicks,
and if Dolan wasn't such a cheap fuck,
that could have just been one team.
With Randall?
Who else is over there?
Devenchanzo.
Divenchanzo.
No, he's out, though, right?
He told his Achilles, right?
Yeah.
But, I mean, the Timberwolves and Knicks are just a mirror image of each other.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man.
It's going to be a good Easton Conference finals,
no matter who did Knicks get, though.
They match, I think the Cavs are fun to watch,
Donovan Mitchell, and depending on if James decides to show up.
But I don't think the Knicks want to see the Pistons, though.
I just think the Pistons are just a tougher, way tougher opponent.
Do you have any plugs?
Can I just see one playoff game?
Because I'm not paying.
Even on my birthday, I was looking at prices and I said, no.
Not even for my own birthday.
Am I doing this?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I got to make some calls.
I'll see.
I'll go nosebleeds?
Yeah, you just want to be in the building?
Just want to wave the towel.
I will watch it on my phone in the garden
He's going to wait without
Yeah
I just want to be there
They look good though man
Shout out to the Knicks man
Y'all should celebrate
Take this time to celebrate
And just take it one game at a time
From here on now man
Yeah
And shout out to Mitch man
Ball don't lie
Karma is real
You still holding on to that
No one was happy
It's over man
Oh it's over now
No it's over now
Yeah they're going to the East of Commerce
Finals, it's over man
Fucking posterized
Crying in the poster
All right, man, well, baby D, you good?
I'm okay.
Caves are like they going home, but it's all right, though.
I know.
My timber wolves, I still have hope.
Timberwolves look good.
It's tied up, you know, so we have to see.
Maybe the calves can come back.
But the Lakers, yeah, they're going.
They got their sunscreen ready.
They're ready to go to Turks.
It's over.
Does LeBrona, does he play next year?
Yeah, he plays next year.
LeBronaughna's going to let you know when he's done playing.
He's going to get the holes.
He's going to be a lotto us for sure.
He's going to, no, he's when he returned.
He's his retirement.
He's done.
He's going to get the whole, you know.
No, I'm just saying he's going to announce it for real.
I do think next year will be his last year, though.
I think so, too.
I don't, at this point, what is he still playing for?
He has all achievements.
He's all-time leading scorer.
You know, I mean, he has rings.
He has MVP's played with his son,
something we'll probably never see again.
At this point, it's like, man, listen, man, it's all crazy numbers in the playoffs.
I know he felt like him and Luca maybe had a shot at getting one,
but not when OKC and San Antonio's looking the way they're looking like
they're going to battle for the rings for the next at least two, three years.
Is his last game, does he go full Kobe?
Like, do you think we'll get that last LeBron game?
I'm not past, I'm shooting every time.
Like, do we get that same Lakers send off the way Kobe's last game was?
Not with Luke out there.
Kobe could do that because he was out there with nobody.
Well, Luca, you got Luca fucked up.
Like, Luke will give a fuck about this year last?
Man, Luca called me like, man, you don't get me that fucking ball.
You ain't shooting every shot with Luca.
Nah, hell, no.
They got to tell Luca the wrong date that day.
Shit.
No, but, you know, the NBA is to make sure they send,
send LeBron off the way they're supposed to,
and he'll get his farewell tour.
Yeah.
He'll get his lap around every arena.
Once he announces, it'll be his last year.
I mean, obviously, LeBron has his production company
and a lot of business ventures.
LeBron is fine.
But no, no, I'm saying.
What does Braun's career look like after basketball?
Does he go commentary?
Does he...
Ownership?
The team in Vegas?
Yeah.
Something like that.
You know?
A Wendy's.
Maybe some analyst work.
You know what I mean?
D'Amaris thinks he's going to buy one Wendy's.
No, multiple Wendy's is.
Wendy's is?
Most of Wendy's.
Is LeVron a big Winnie's guy?
I don't know.
I don't know.
No, I think he'll do...
I was a team owner for sure.
Record label.
I hope not.
He could be the head of NRA of Universal.
hope not.
It worked out for run our test.
He'll do some analyst work for sure.
Like, LeBron's mind for the game definitely needs to be something that is courtside.
So I think he'll do some analysts work, things like that.
He'll be around.
He'll still be around the NBA.
But, you know, I think it's like, what else are you playing for at this point?
Because I always said it.
I always said he was waiting for Bronte.
Is he waiting for Bryce too?
That's crazy.
Waiting for Bryce too is crazy.
Oh, is Bryce?
He's in college.
You just finished his freshman year?
He didn't play, but yeah.
That's right.
Is he waiting for Bryce?
Is he trying to get Bryce in there?
Not if Bryce's redshirted.
I'm just saying.
It's an extra year now.
LeBronka played two more years.
He looked great this year.
He had a great year.
Physically he's still.
His numbers are the same.
Yeah, he hasn't like tape at all.
I mean, yes, it's not what it was in, you know, 2014.
But, yeah, like, he still looks great.
So LeBronca get two more years for sure.
I hear you.
Yeah.
I don't know. I just think that, you know, for what? What is he playing for at this point?
His legacy is already cemented, so.
22 seasons. He might just like the game.
Like? No, he loves the game. Yeah, he might just let a game.
He loved a game. He loved a game. But it's sometimes you got to, even things you love, you
got to let him go before they let you go, baby, Dee. You know a little bit about that, right?
Just a little bit, tiny bit, right? We'll talk to you all soon. Be safe. Be blessed.
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