New Rory & MAL - Episode 498 | Hard as Nailz

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

Happy Memorial Day! It was a slow news weekend, so the crew catches up about the Knicks’ Game 3 win in Cleveland, and their weekend plans that were ruined by the rain. DJ Hed is under fire for editing disses out of Drake’s “2 Hard 4 The Radio”, Spotify and UMG announce their new AI features coming soon, and Ray J gets knocked out in his MMA debut. Jim Jones calls out Cam’ron for a Versuz battle, and a listener calls out Mal for questioning JID and J.Cole’s relationship. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever Bask and Lather use code RORYANDMAL for 20% off:See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is Memorial Day. Yes. Yes, it is. Shout out to all the troops. Yes. Thank you for your services. Yes. And we are working today to honor the troops.

Yes. The dead ones, though. Veterans Day is for the ones that are still alive. Yes. Well, it's both, really. Yeah. Well, veterans is for dead alive, but memorial is just for dead. Okay, memorial, yep.

Yeah. I get it. I get where it's tied in that memory. Memorial, yeah. Somewhere in there. Niggas is memories here. My grandfather serves in the Navy. He's dead, but not from, like, war.

Still a war hero, though. Yeah. Like, they still have, like, the Navy sent, like, you know, five 21-year-olds to his funeral that didn't know who he was. That's okay. To do a salute. We honor him. We salute him.

You're not a real nigga if you don't got a folded flag in your crib or your grandma don't got a folded flag and they crave. If nobody in your family, like, was once, like, in the service. Wait, but don't you get the folded flag if they dies? Yeah. If none of your ancestors died and they were, like, died and they were troops, like, you're not no real nigga. You need the folded flag in your grandmother crib.

My cousin got shot in the leg in North Africa. We know. He alive, though, right? We didn't get a flag. Yeah, walking fine. Okay. The flag is when they die. He was in war in North Africa?

Yeah. It's like when it was the Iraq, Afghanistan, or Africa, like Benghazi area, whatever the fuck it was. I don't really know. There's a Navy SEALs documentary that's on, I think, HBO Max or Netflix right now that I was watching on the weekend. Netflix, I think, yeah. And it was about the SEAL Team 6.

It showed like them, well, did the reenact mix of them, like, killing bin Laden and all of that stuff. Y'all should watch it. It was interesting. Did you ever see Zero Dark 30? No. That's the movie about that whole thing. It's good.

I like war movies. Even if it's propaganda and you're lying to me, I'm here. Like, salute. I feel American afterwards. Like, whatever Mark Wahlberg wants to do a war, I'm here for it. Okay. Yeah, Long Survivor is the greatest one, though. That movie gave me so much anxiety.

Like, I don't even get anxiety watching movies. I was like literally, my heart was pumping. Yeah, that was, like a great, great movie. I love that movie. Not American Sniper. I liked American Sniper. Another great propaganda machine. Yeah, it was good, too.

Yeah, I liked it. Shit, I didn't know the real story. Like, I didn't go into it knowing who Chris Kyle was. So the ending, like, really, I was like, wait, wait, did I just read that correctly? Yeah. I didn't know that story. But American sniper was really good. Yeah, great movie.

Black Hawk Down? Classic. You never seen Black Hawk down? Oh, man, you got to see Black Hawk down. What's the one with Brad Pitt, Fury? When they was in a tank? Oh, with Shai LeBuff? Yeah, no, that's far.

Another great movie. Leboe, his French. Lebeau. La buff tell this is an Irishman What's the one where Mel Gibson is a serial killer with his kids? Mission Impossible Um Where did you get?

No, the Patriot. The Patriot. Where he's just slaughtering every, he slaughters all the Native Americans takes their their tools and then just slaughters all the British. Yeah, the Patriot. Mel Gibson single-handedly won us the war. Like the reason why we have these United States is because of Mel Gibson. Yeah.

Yeah, I remember how big of an actor Mel Gibson was in the 90s? Nah, I was born like halfway through the deckman. He missed the classics. I mean, he is really the only actor that beat the allegations of that group of people. Yeah. And lived to tell about it. Charlie Sheen tried. They got rid of him.

They got rid of that Tiger Blood real quick. Kanye tried. Dita Trojews. Mel Gibson kind of made his way through with those league phone call. Yeah, yeah. Shout to Mel Gibson, man. legend your people

being anti-Semitic and then making the passion is a wild story you know I've never seen the passion before passion of question I've never seen it I was young when it came out

and I just never got around to it like when I got older I had to watch in like church in church that made you watch that I went to like almost like at one point remember I was a Christian rapper like a kind of like I did not remember you being a Christian rapper

baby did yeah we talked about it but I went to like kind of like my friend disciple Jeff Morgan, no, he loses memories. Okay. Yeah. It was called Hard as Nails, yeah.

But it was like given cultish. Like, I used to go do like retreats in New Hampshire and shit. The name of your single was Hard as Nails? No, that was like the name of the church and the group. The name of the church was hard as nails. I'm telling you, it was some white occultish shit, yo. The name of your church was hard as nails? Like, it said it outside.

Hardest Nails ministry, yeah, man. Okay. In their defense, as a Christian, we do just keep a huge death sentence literally in the church. Like, we wear jewelry of death. Yeah, but you- Of nails, like him nailed to the cross. Like, that's our logo. But hard as Nails being the name of the-

I told you was some weird. It was some weird. Oh, there go, Justin, yeah. Making a world where no one suffers alone. Yeah. Yeah, Jesus had two of the 15th. I'm telling you. I used to go to like, it was like all white people.

And like I remember I'm into like a retreat in New Hampshire. Frank definitely looks like. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know that face.

Yeah. He definitely touched the side of your cheek with the back of his. That's the face you see when the sleep demon got you. That's, that's her sleep paralysis. Just like that too. When the sleep paralysis demon got you, that's the face. He's like, shh. It's okay.

Don't fight it. Yeah. Anyway, I don't remember. Anyway, yes, we watched The Passion of the Christ. In the basement of church, we had to watch, like, Jesus movies, but we never watched The Passion. Like, more the PG version. I don't want to know.

We was doing in the basement of my church. Get it in? On the phone and say, you need me. Christ, watch over the church. Fish plates on sale. Fish plates on sale. Did y'all do anything this weekend? Mall is sick.

Yeah, I wish you could hear the hour conversation we have before we turn these kids. Did y'all do anything this weekend? No, it was fucking raining all weekend. Raining, cold outside. Yeah, it was an awesome. It was nasty this weekend. This was a washout weekend. This is a weekend to just stay in the crib, clean, get everything in order for spring, you know, switch your closets around, get rid of old shit, bring in some new shit.

That's what I did this week. I don't know what I did, but that's what I did. No, I was literally in the house. I wanted to go to the poor mine. She couldn't get a babysitter, but it was pouring rain, so I was like, it's whatever. So I don't even mind coming in today. It's raining again. Like, this whole Memorial Day weekend was just whatever.

But I mean, I did watch the greatest team of all time, the Knicks. Shout out to the New York Knickerbockers. Hopefully, as you're hearing this, we already got the brooms out and we're headed to the finals. Hopefully, when you're hearing this, we completed the sweep. We shall see. We are recording on Monday, and the game is tonight. Rosie asked me to go out to watch the game. I might take her up on that offer since I was in the house for three days.

We outside? Yeah. I mean, we, well, you know, Rosie wants to be extra. She wants to bring brooms to a bar. I'm like, it's all right. Let's just take a few shots and watch the next. Bring brooms to the bar. Me and Peech, me and Peege went through two fucking pitchers the other night.

What was it, game two? No, it was game three. No, we watched game two. It was game three? Game three. Oh, yeah, game three. two pitchers baby how do you never invite me maul or ryan uh y'all like ran out you y'all ran out y'all ran out oh that was thursday oh yeah yeah that was game too yeah mall ran out you had to go

we'll do whatever you ran out early i had to get a more yeah that was game too yeah it was game too me and p's were chilling around we walked to our favorite bar we won't say where it is in the area got two seats at the bar they said they had a $25 per person minimum me and p's was like that's two pictures. I was about to say that's a drink in Brooklyn. That's nothing. People were complaining about it. She was like, yes. About a $25 minimum per person. Who was complaining about that?

In New York City. Yeah, I don't want to be around nobody that's complaining about that. No, we should be complaining about that, but we're so conditioned to expensive drinks. A $25 minimum? In the middle of the playoffs, at a sports bar? I go to Central Jersey and find a dollar beer spot. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, if you order a drink in some wings or something, that's more than $25. You order three drinks.

That's like, yeah, three beers. Yeah, so a $25 minimum was like bad. I was spending that anyway. Yeah. What am I arguing? I feel like that's fair for the New York, for a Knicks game in the middle of the Eastern Conference Finals. Come on. The Knicks are one that went away from the finals, baby.

Yeah, come on now. Run that shit. Run that tab up. Spin that shit. Run that tab up. I like what they've been doing uptown of certain neighborhoods. They've been playing the games outside with the projectors on the handball court. Yeah.

Like for the neighborhood. That's been dope to see that like different neighborhoods. was like projecting the game on the handball courts at night. Yeah. It's dope to see that. I got trolled on our street today. The coffee spot I usually go to the line was way too crazy. So I wanted to try the other one that's down the block that just opened.

I walked in and tried to order a coffee and they said, we're only a mobile pickup. So you have to order it in the app? There's three people standing there and they have a screen. I said, I can't just order a coffee with you? and she said no you need to download the app and then order it i said so i literally cannot just order a coffee which right now i can't give you money and you give me a coffee no you have to download the app then you have to sell your soul i walked out i want to know how much business they've lost because of it like i literally walked in and i was like i don't want a coffee that bad did they have

the QR code that you can scan right there yeah but i can also just say hey can i have a coffee give you money and you give this is new york right remember we just like go in and get a cup of coffee yeah Yeah. I would walk right out of there. You fucking robots. Like you remember in 40-year-old Virgin when she had that eBay store? And he's like, I just want to buy these shoes and put them on. Like, you have to go on eBay and buy it. I was like, I can literally just give you the money and take these with me. That's not how it works. That was a joke in that movie. Right. This happened to me in real life.

I'm sure Roy was furious, red and all. I was confused because I thought she was joking with me. No. I had to ask twice. Like, I can't just. give you money. But, you know, here we are. Anyways, we are sponsored by boost. Unlimited talk, Texan data. March is on sale. Patreon. No ads for $5 a month join now plus some other tiers. That 50K tier is still there. Dinner with Jay-Z. I know it's become another hot topic. Drake, you can't kill it. Someone's going to buy the tier. I have faith. It's been five years, but we'll get there. We'll get there. Somebody's going to cash out one day. We'll get it. We'll get it done.

And what happens when they do? I mean, well, We have to take them dinner in FaceTime, Jay. You think Jay going to answer you all? Get him on FaceTime. No, I literally have to talk to the paparazzi's that know where he's at and then just grab a sandwich and just walk with him. And go sit down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Go sit right there? Your fucking security and knock your Adams apple to the back of your fucking throat. You try to sit down next to Jay-Z. Well, I have good news for this week. Yes. This Friday, my next record with Lucky Day and Black Odyssey. Still be mine will be out on Friday. With the video as well, had to push because of the ice, man.

Yeah. Definitely wasn't getting in that mix. I still feel like I'm a little early. I thought about pushing another Friday, but I was like, you know what? Listen, let me just get it out. Yeah, just get it out, man. It's going to do what it's going to do no matter what. So please buy the single, stream it, watch the video, share it.

I would appreciate it. So that will be this Friday. I mean, I don't have like a release party, but we could do something here. This Friday? Yeah. I'm going to stream it here? Sure. Stream the release?

Just us listening to the song. It's not Ice Man, but it's... It's not Ice Man. It's not Ice Man. Well, I mean, most of Patreon has heard the song. Okay. Like, I did play it for them on Patreon Live. But yeah, we could...

We could play it 30 times and just drop Flex Bomb over R&B music. I know you were listening to Ice Man all weekend, as was I, but did you get around to Black's album? No. Love is the New Gangster? Yeah. It's good. Yeah. There's joints on there, for sure.

And I think it's Demaris's bag. Really? Yeah, he might rival your goat with the pen. He's, he's Moriah level. Well, let me say Mariah's Black's level as far as pen goes. Okay. But no, it's great. Who you got on album?

He has Leon Thomas, Young Thug, Two Chains, O'Dill, Quinn. O'Dill, that's the one I wanted to hear. That on me? That's one of my favorite records on that. want to hear that. Mariba's on there. It's really good. Odeal is LVR in too, right?

Yeah. AZ, Shike is on there. That's a great verse. It's a really good album. 44 minutes, straight to the point. I guess is probably my favorite gentleman. Rapping you. Okay.

It's a lot of rap. But like melodic rap. Yeah. So definitely check out Black's album if you haven't. I know it's been tough to get past the 42 songs that Drake has put out and tough for me as well. But people are starting to come around. shout out to the real big three

I'm sorry the real big three it took Elliot Wilson six days to go from this album stink style of the year which album nice man shout out to Elliot we love you

but shout out to Elliot me text me that today and then I saw the tweet as well I was like oh I didn't know you were going to publicly say that yeah I appreciate that though

and they were pulling up all the old Elliot Wilson clips of the bigger picture of just everything that he had said about Drake. Yeah, man. Sorry, man. Enjoy the album.

Enjoy the music, man. It's okay. No matter what you said back then. It's fine. Yeah. Enjoy the music. Or go to DJhead.com to download. Now, that's the person that I want to talk about.

All right. What's going on with that? I want to talk about DJ Head. Shout out to friend of the show. Shout out to DJ Head, man. Shout out to Gina Views. Hey, what's up, man? Like, what's going on?

I'm hearing things. I'm seeing things. I'm hearing you. edited, too hard for the radio. I heard you got it on your website, the edited version. What the fuck is going on, man?

Like, what is happening? What are we doing? You don't want to get in between the Bay and L.A. You didn't know that Drake is dividing the Bay in L.A.? How is Drake dividing the Bay in L.A.? Let's start there. How? How does this song divide the Bay in L.A.?

Because it's a Bay sound and it's talking about Kendrick. And no one in L. to Drake. Oh, okay. So, Head was suggesting that some DJs are scared to play it. So. No DJ in the Bay

is scared to play it. That is currently the number one song in San Francisco on Apple right now. So I don't know who is afraid to play it. It's the, the number one song on San Francisco on Apple right now. Again, head front of the show. I think that clip

of him saying he removed the disses off too hard for the radio is worse than Jay Cole deleting his dissing. And I think it's a worse. I can't say to describe the behavior of taking that off. It's worse than cold deletion. It's just weird. It's just weird.

I think weird is a good word. It's weird. Well, last time we said weird, we got into, we won't talk about that. But it's just weird. LA takes the word weird in a bad, bad way. We don't mean it that way. No, but this is weird to do. Like, why would you, it's not, first of all, to just.

Just don't play the song. Yeah, start there. You just don't have to play the record or don't listen to it. Like, you don't have to edit out. And the disson wasn't even like, you want to edit out those dizzes, but you played not like us. No. It's not just that. It's in the very same episode.

He was explaining to Gina that he can't really relate to Iceman because he doesn't internalize things. If, like, people betray him, he doesn't internalize that. That's just not the type person is. Which is cool. I'm not going to tell DJ head how he feels. Two minutes later. I was so offended by the disses. I had to edit them out.

I had to edit it out of the song. So I could listen to it. Sounds like you internalized it. Yeah, man. You're doing too. You're doing way too much, man. Just enjoy the music. It wasn't so much that.

It was more when he perked up and said, those things have been removed. Those things. Those things. Have been removed. And then I saw he tweeted something like, oh, yeah, I don't get my humor. Like, once he was getting roasted.

Nah, that's a good cop, well. Yeah, we're not, we're not fault. Listen, man, we've all been on the summer jam screen. You've talked about us in the Summer Jam screen. It's all in good fun. Yeah. But there is some irony with Drake naming it too hard for the radio. And it edited for the radio.

It all makes sense. It's all part of the plan. Why did you even give Drake that W? Oh, my God. Gina was the funniest turn that. Gina had the same face we all had. Watching the clip. Gina was so confused.

She was trying to fill out. Like, what the hell are you talking about? Head responded to the backlash and I see my sense of humor still needs some improvement. Apologies. I'll be better. Yeah, head, that ain't going. That ain't going. We're not going to do that.

We're not going to do that. Because you really have the edited version on a website. I mean, I didn't go to DJhead.com. I didn't either, but it's there. I would like to see the download numbers. Yeah, who downloaded it? No, but also what, like, what part are you playing? Because Gina asked a great question.

What did you edit out? He was like, oh, he says some silly shit. The whole song is technically a disc. So what? What did you edit out? Just don't play this song. Yeah. You can just not listen to the record, man.

Not play the record. But everybody seemed to be loving the record on the West Coast. That's a great record. Great record. Great album. Yeah, there's nothing you can do about this, man. It just says what it is. You just got to stand there and watch it the same way they stood there and watched

all that shit in 24. So if I was DJ in the Toronto party you were at, could I play not like us but retract all the disses? Did that wouldn't be. Is that how it works? That wouldn't be wise. That wouldn't be wise in Toronto, but okay. No, but I took the disses out. Yeah, no, I get it.

They're about to take you out. Don't worry about it. Yeah, I don't, I think it's unnecessary. Oh, they say he took it off his website. And my, all right, my thing too, and even if I was joking, it's like, throughout the entire battle most of the West Coast, which I did agree with them, it is just rap. Like maybe it's not that, it's not that serious.

When people were even saying to them like, hey, is that part over the line? Come on, guys, it's a good song. It's just rap. Y'all being way too sensitive about it. That was pretty much the sentiments of the West Coast and DJ had on his platform with Jeremy and Elliot. That's why it's just even more funny.

Right. If it's just rap, why does it matter? Yeah, don't internalize it. All he said about mustard was, was, yo, you haven't had a good song since, uh, Rack City Bush. Right. Whoa. Edit. I don't even think mustard cares. Edit. I don't even think Kendra cares. They don't. They don't get what fuck. This was just head just trying to be too, you know, looking too deep into it and being, you know, the LA

native and, you know, a spokesman for the West Coast. Just trying to hold, you know, that side down in this moment, but it's not that deep. Well, for all the DJs and Toronto, know, numeralymol.com, you can download Euphoria without the disses. Which would be called an instrumental. And how do you, how do you edit the, like, what do you take as a dis? I don't know, that's a disc. They get out. The whole record is a dis.

And is it just like, the hook is a disc? Is it just like just the instrumental during it? Or it's like, do he replace the lines or? No, he took it out and he kind of like moved the instruments up. It's like, you know, he edited. went into like he had the stems. Mm. You just took the disses out.

So now's just music and the hook too hard for the radio. Yeah, that was, hey, was doing too much right there though. Just a little bit. Cut that shit out. Instead, I will not platform somebody separating the coast. Separating the coast. Ryan, did you feel like... Yeah, you're from the Bay.

Did you feel like he was trying to separate the Bay in L.A.? Not at all? Song Slaps. Yeah, that's shit slaps. Shit. Shout out to the big three. You're so bad. One, two, eight three on the child.

Oh, man. That's some funny shit, man. Drake, you a funny nigga, man. I just, I don't know why you would give him that easy of a W. But, I mean, either way, I laughed all Sunday morning. Like, thank you ever giving me a good Sunday morning laugh. Like, I needed that. Yeah, man.

Like, I laughed out loud. Part of it. This is part of the, you know, it's time to laugh. You know what I like about Head is if we, if Head was in here and we would ask him about this, he would have a straightest face. He would not chuckle like not once. Like he would be dead ass explaining that shit. And to me, that's his humor. That would be funny. That's his humor. Yeah. It's like he dead ass about that shit. He would, he dead assed about that shit. He would, he dead asses that shit. Ain't nobody playing that song without with edits that you made. Also, what's funny is if you're a, head ain't nobody down. That's shit. Nobody went to hear them edit you made. Also, what's funny is, if you're a, you're a, DJ, you can pick the part that you want to play. Yeah. Why would I need to get it? Like in Serato, you very

well can just go, you know what? I think I'll play this section and then I'll switch it. If you just want to listen to it on your own without, with the edge. On your own? Yeah, like, just, I'm not DJ. I can't listen to that shit with this is on it, man. We go to DJhead.com. Just for this one song. You're also fucking silly.

Oh, my God. I'm silly. That shit. Dead did was silly. That with some silly shit. You took time too. Like, hmm. I ain't like that bar. Take that out. And like how do you decide whether or not to play the real version? Like if Absole is in the spot?

Like, then you dust out that vinyl? Yeah, you got to go into the editor version. Is it just MP3s or did he press any? I don't know what he did. Any 12 inch. Shout to Gina though. Gina was sitting there trying to really like. Perplexed.

She was generally perplexed. Like, okay. Got it. Gina's pretty I don't want to say she's completely unbiased but to be from the West Coast she tries to control her biases

when it comes to that whole thing I mean she was pretty vocal that she was a Drake fan throughout that I would say Gina's very objective yeah as objective as everybody's a Drake fan not everybody

you would be surprised not when he's dissing mustard I'll tell you that because I won't stand for that shit everybody's a Drake I've met some people who out they were like I was like you're like you're like

you're really like really not and it I was like oh I've never met those before. It's hard to like music and not like Drake. Like how do you not like, I think he ain't got to be your favorite rapper. I'm not saying that. But it's hard to like music, like good music, be outside moving around and be like, nah, I don't like. People don't be outside moving around, pokey. Where they be at?

Where they don't like Drake. In their house. Oh, well, they don't like their house. You've seen some of these things houses? Okay. No, there's probably people that don't like Drake as an album artist, but they just like songs.

Songs. There are some people that exist. All those people exist. You like good music and you don't like Drake as an album artist? Some people who don't like Drake will tell you that the music is that they don't,

the music is not good to them. And that's okay. That's their opinion. Yeah, that's fine. But like I said, we just got to start asking other questions. Who do you like? A moral technique.

Just start there. Who are you like? Who do you be listening to? They might like other artists. No, I'm naturally, right? You like some type. You like some. When I've, the people that I've spoken to

who do not like Drake music, do not like the sing-songy Drake. They don't like the auto... That's fine. Yeah. They don't like that. It's other shit, though. One, two, and three.

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Is there a very popular artist that you guys don't like? A universally loved artist that you're just not into. That I don't like, like I cannot listen to. Yeah. I don't know if it's there for me. The streets would say Eminem for me. Even though there's some Eminem verses that I could recite, like, from top to bottom. But as an artist, like, I'm cool.

I give Eminem a lot of flak, but I would never say that I hate Eminem. I don't hate, but his first three albums, I think, are incredible. Yeah, I'm gonna go to an Eminem album like, yo, this was my shit. But I didn't run to hear Kamikaze. Like, I don't care. But at that point, I wouldn't say I dislike Eminem. Yeah, I was checked out at that point at that album. But I go to some early shit and be like, when this came out, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you can't, it's just for somebody for an artist to be, and not Drake specific, but for an artist to be that successful and to be that talented and to create the sounds that they do, like, you don't like any of it? Yeah, it's weird. That's just like, you don't, and nothing, none of this, you, that's like if you take somebody to a fucking amazing restaurant and they look at me and like, I don't like none of this. It's like, none of this, like, caught your eye. Like, you don't want to try any of this. Like, you don't think any of this is good.

Like, well, it's tough with people that have had 20 year careers in that amount of songs. Like, I know people when Cole first came out that were older than me that were like, he could rap, but it doesn't really necessarily, you know, match the type of stuff I like. Because he's radical while college and shit. but they were still like he could rap. But now with Cole's 20-year career, those same people, there's definitely Cole's songs that you've liked. For sure.

But, yeah. Like, shit, I understand that Future is one of the most influential artists period, but I've been pretty vocal that, like, futures hit or miss for me. I'm not, I'm not the future hive the way most people are. But he got some shit that you like. But I would never, like, futures are legend. Like, you can't not love March Madness. Exactly.

But I'm trying to, I think, Nikki may be the one that it's so black and white with that because she has so many fans that absolutely stand her there probably are people that really just like Nikki, not from like Cardihyi. Just in general. Maybe with her voice or whatever.

I could see that. People being like, I just don't like Nickyman. But I think that that's unfair too. And I think that that's a lot of people's issues when they're critique. It's the boy, terrifying. We know.

I think that's a lot of people's issues when they're critiquing music. And I say this about Megan a lot. People are critiquing. singles. You're critiquing songs that you hear everywhere. It's like, I hate that song. I hate that artist because this is the type of song I always hear from them. And it's like, well, this is the type of song that goes up mainstream. You don't listen to the albums because they make plenty of songs that aren't like that. Nikki has made plenty of songs where she's not doing the voices. Like the same voices

that they kill my ass about complaining about Kendrick. Kendrick has made plenty of songs where he doesn't make those fucking voices. And there's also plenty of songs that Drake has made where He's not whining and singing and using auto tune and he's actually rapping, rapping. But if you don't go looking for those songs or if you aren't a Drake fan, you wouldn't know that they exist. So a lot of people are just critiquing shit saying they don't like shit because it's what they hear on the radio or what they hear on like TikTok. They don't really know the discography's.

I mean, I'm still trying to find that Playboy Cardi song that I like, but I'm about 0 for 30 at this point. So he'd be on that list. You did not listen to 30 Playboy Carty long. The whole album was 30 fucking songs, wasn't it? But they were all like 10 seconds. Exactly. Yeah.

I'm like, you ain't really get into that shit for real. Well, I remember, like, early Cardi when he was kind of rapping and wasn't like this, you know, this bisexual vampire that he is now. But, yeah, I'm cool. And he's a universally love artist, no? Well, not universally, but he does crazy numbers. Yeah. No, he's the big three of the younger generation, I would say.

But yeah, I'm cool on Cardi. Yeah. Ma you don't have any major artists that everybody loves that you think is like overrated that you don't listen to that you're like I cannot stand when they come on

Not that I could think of that I don't like anything from them Nah I can't think of any artist that's on that level Like I might not love everything that they do but there's something I'm like

Nah this is dope Like this it's just the talent level It's just undeniable. You know what I'm saying? Like at some point it just becomes undeniable. Like this may not be your favorite shit, but it's going to be some of the shit you're going to be feeling. Like that's all.

So when you say people don't like, I'm just, I don't understand that. Like, how? Like, so what do you like? That's what I'm saying. Like, what you got to ask. So what are you liking? What do you be, what you be into? Like, I don't, it's just like, like, you never seen somebody just like when something is

is unanimous like, you know, this is, this is good. whether it be food, whatever it is. Clothes and vacation beaches. This is a beautiful beach. I've never seen it. This beach is trash. This beach is trash. I've never seen anything be unanimous more.

There is always at least one person that doesn't like that. Yeah, but that is something wrong with that person. I don't think so. Nah, I think so. Some people don't like pizza. They exist. And not the people that are trying to be cool by like, yo, fuck pizza. Like, no, they just really don't like pizza.

Which, you're weird. Doesn't mean that pizza isn't good. It's just it's not for them. That's why we have to stop saying that things are bad. Some things are not. No, we can say some things are trash. No, some things are trash. But everything is not just trash.

Sometimes things are just not for you. And it's okay. Sometimes things are not for you. Yes, I agree with that. I live by that. It's just not for me. But some things are just like nothing? You don't like none of that?

And you're not a hater if you don't like something. Everybody's not a hater just because they don't like. I want us to stop calling it by haters. Like, because. Nah, but some should be hate because if I, I'd be like, yo, why you don't like Drake? He's corny. You don't even know that, nigga.

Like, what you? To me, that's hate you. There's plenty of people that you would think are corny that you don't know. But that's not why I don't listen to them. That's not why don't think their music is good. I would not say they'd be like, no, I don't listen to that dang. Word. Like, why not believe that nigga corny?

I don't know him. I don't know her. Like, that wouldn't be the reason. I would just be like, yo, I just don't like the music. Like, it wouldn't be because I think the person is corny. But some people think the music is corny. Some people, you can think somebody, music is corny.

Okay. Yeah. I don't listen to that shit. It's corny. It's not what they want to. I get it, man. I just think that at some point, it's just, you know, you got to really look at the person a little deeper that you're talking to and be like, you got to figure out how did they land on that? Because I get it, right?

It's just everything is not for everybody. Cool. We understand that. But why? Like, what's up? Like, what's up? Like, if Rory came in here and be like, man, I don't like Michael Jordan. I mean, I did.

you know, a Knicks fan. But that will make sense. But you still respect his game. He's one of the greatest. I, rest of the piece, I hated Kobe when he was playing, but still was one of the greatest. This is what I'm saying. Like, why you hate Kobe? Like, why you hate Kobe?

I'm a Knicks fan, bro. Oh, okay. That makes sense. He kills the Knicks. Got it. But at some point, you got to be like, yo, but he's still fucking one of the greatest that would do it. Like, yeah.

You land on that at the end of the conversation. What I'm saying, like, I may not like him, but he's one of the greatest that would do it. But I think some people get stuck in their own. way of hating an artist when they first come out and now have to for some reason stand on that like almost like some skip Bayless LeBron shit like I've entered this world that I dislike this person so I'm going to discredit every achievement that they possibly have without even really paying attention because I think there's plenty of people that hated Drake when thank me later came out and didn't like I'm more than just the option hey hey I can see someone disliking that and then never

investing at any of the projects. So they're walking around being like, yo, I think his all shit is trash and haven't even listened to most of it. Yeah, I get it. That makes sense. And have made that part of their personality. But it's just not for you. And then there's also people with confirmation bias, right? So you can not like somebody in the very beginning, right? And then despite everything else that you hear, the moment you hear something that is like, ah, see, this is trash. Like, it's like a confirmation. Like sometimes all of our favorite, rappers do it, but since we're talking about Drake, sometimes Drake has bars and it's like,

nigga, why you say that? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Channing Tatum was, but Chaining Tatum was. She's like, Chating Tatea, for example. Even as a fan, you like, nigger, the water fuck would you say that? But to people who are not fans, all of our favorites got those. I just said that. When Kanye was dripping swag goo, I was about to fucking throw up.

Yeah. I just said, all of our favorites have said that. But when you hear something like that as someone who already didn't like the person, it's like, see, like, what the fuck is this shit? Like, It's a confirmation bite. It's just like... Oh, it's a lot of that online right now.

But I mean, that's all... The niggins breaking down the Iceman album. They're like, oh, this fucking bar is trash. I'm like, but what about the bar right after that? Like, why you ain't talking about the next... Literally the next bar. Why you ain't break that ball there? Yeah.

So I get it. Like I said, I understand it. It's part of this... It's not for them. Yeah, it's part of this thing that we're in. So I understand it. I just, you know, I just sit back and laugh. But your head, that was crazy to make your own edits.

I'm... I'm comfortable saying that's hate. That's hate. We can identify certain things that hate. That's hate. That's definitely hate. Which is cool. I've hated before.

Yeah. We all have a little hate in our heart. That's hate. It's hate. That's the biggest hate. DJ hate. DJ hate is crazy. You're dragging.

DJ hate. What's popping? DJ hate is a little dragged. I'm just saying that was hate what he did, though. DJ hate and Gina views from the six? Gina views from the six. That's funny. I would say AI, Rich Homey Kwan is not for me.

definitely not for me that's not for me no i don't support that it came from his estate so like okay that is your choice but i would ask why yeah why it's just it's just a little yeah yeah i just i don't know man and i you know i understand it it's you know i guess keeping the energy alive keeping the you know the legacy going but it's just a little I don't know, man. Tone deaf to your own family member is a little crazy, but again, everyone grieves different. And I don't want to get too much into it.

I think it's distasteful, but that, again, is his estate's, even the name of the song, everything about it is fucking gross to me. But it is their choice. It's not like someone else is exploiting it. That's what they wanted to do. But it does have me thinking that sometimes, especially creatives, artists, whatever, your estate may not know what the fuck to do with your art

because they don't understand your art. your art. Yeah. Like, God forbid, if I passed away and my mother's controlling my estate, I don't think she'd have the best tools to know what would be good to do a tribute on the pop. Yeah. Because she doesn't understand this world or what works and what doesn't. Someone may just go up to her and be like, here's a way that you can honor your son and

also keep money coming in for Amara. And I'm sure my mom would be like, oh yeah, money in for Amara. Let's do it. Yeah. And then it'd be a fucking hologram of me next to you. It's like, whoa. Podding together? Oh, Jesus Christ.

It would have to be two holograms because I'm not doing that. A hologram of him all. He's still alive as funny as fuck. A hologram of me and I'm live tweeting like, yo, that shit trash. That shit trash. Like, I don't support that. So y'all wouldn't want, let's, I mean, we have these conversations because we're in business together. You wouldn't want anything AI.

Of me? No, thank you. Let me rest. I'm cool. Now, if y'all want to run back some old clips and do that, cool, but not no new shit that I didn't say for real. Like, like, none of that. Don't start pumping out new clips of shit that I didn't say or shit based off of a software and technology that I might say. Like, no, no, no, no. No, but if you think about it, we could kind of use you with all the takes that we're too scared to say that would get like a bunch of clicks.

you're not here so we can just make you say them and we'd be like, Maul, that's crazy. Why would you say that? Nah. You know any viral moments we would have if we get to control what you say? If we just take all the piece, the stuff that peach has cut out from the beginning of the episode? Bro, we would make your nephew a multi-millionaire in six months. That's like when dudes get arrested and they were like, nah, he killed him. When, homie, his man is dead.

Like, I ain't really snitching, he's dead. It ain't like, they're going to do jets. Well, I agree with that, but I'm not from the streets. No, no, I agree with that. I'm putting everything on my dad, homie. Put all murders on me. if I'm dead. That's what I'm saying. If I'm dead and y'all want to put some some some hot takes on me that might shake things up. Yeah. Good. AI that. Well, what, all right,

what if you and Damaris had like maybe an argument right before you passed and she still felt a little bitter towards you and she programs AI Mall to be the biggest Jay Cole fan of all time? Oh, no, then my, I'm going to be her sleep paralysis demons. That's crazy. Every night. Every night. Or she goes, well, we survive the left. She's going to be Eyes open can't move And I'm going to be writing up rooms You see how I was talking about confirmation bias

She all the niggas always bring up Can we survive the let out? They'll skip over mad heat But bring up can we survive with that? I told you I love side A of the falloff Straight What's the Tim's record though? That's my shit though

Yeah, that's on that's on side of it That's the one shout out to Baiz, the boss The Boss Road. What's the name of it though? Oh God. Bunton Road Blues. I like that record. Buntzroll Blues.

Bunts and Roe Blue? We think about Jalen too much, yeah. Buntz Road. Buntz Road. You know Bunce Road. No, I know Brunce and Rose. If these niggas win this championship,

they're going to name Fifth Avenue Brunson Row. I was about to say. That's going to be Bruns and Road. I'm telling you right now. Yeah, Athab, just going to be Jalen Way. We should just find other ways to remix. That's a fact. They did that at one.

They did that at one point, right? Wasn't they naming different streets after the players? I think it was the first round of the playoffs they did that. Yeah, it was like Josh Hart. Way or some shit like that. Remember they had did that one year. I don't know if that was last show the year before. I don't know.

Because Jeter doesn't have anything, right? Shit, he needs it. Because that'd be kind of crazy if we do that, but Jeter hasn't gotten his flowers. Jerome Ave should be Jada have for sure. For sure. Yeah, see, they had a Knicks where I also received street co-namings with major intersections,

honoring key players like Jail Bruns and Cohnty Towns, McHill Bridges, Josh Hardy, O.G, yeah. I remember that. Yeah, Dyckman should be Mariana Rivera have. For sure. That should be. For sure.

That was temporary, but if the Knicks won the championship, that might have to be permanent. I think every player on that roster, well, key contributors, key players. If the Knicks won his championship is Brunton the best Nick ever?

He's in the conversation. He's already in the conversation. They could lose four games. And he's still not. the conversation. He's better than Spree Will. I mean, it's really, you're just talking to him and Ewing. I mean, Clive phrase.

Yeah, Clive, of course. Willis Reed has to be in that conversation. Earl Monroe has to be in that conversation. Earl of Pearl has, yeah. I mean, Clyde and Earl and Willis, they won. They won the,

which is cool. So we understand that. Pat went to, he had a lot of war. He never won, but he went through war for the city, though. Yeah. He has some, Patrick Ewan has some battles in New York. But Jalen, I,

Jalen's already top five to me. Yeah, I think he's a top five Nick for sure. He might be four as of right now. And that's no disrespect to Mello because I would put Mello at five. But Brunson would be at four. Brunson is a top. Without winning a champion. He's the top five New York Nick of all time for sure.

Without a doubt. He definitely is. He definitely is. Yeah. but I mean what street do we do we give them Brunton?

Yeah What is it Madison What's that What's the Madison is 7th I think No

What's the garden is between So on 7th 34th between 7th and 8th 7th and 8th Yeah 7th Avenue Might have to be That's Brunson Ave

My nigga They win the championship That's Brunton Ave I don't care if they lose tonight They're going to win the series But Yeah Yeah

Nah They got to give They got to get bruns in the street for sure. Definitely, definitely a top five, Nick. He went it all. If somebody feels like he's the greatest Nick ever, it's hard to argue with that. From my era, yes.

From like what I watched, because I caught the tail in a patch of viewing and I mean, you know, David Lee's up there, I guess. Don't knew that. David Lee was the only one hustling. David Lee was tough. I like David Lee game. Yeah, he was the only one that cared.

Yeah. You got to throw Felton got to get a street in Staten Island or something Don't do that Don't do that Just leave it on Brunson Just leave it Leave it right there

Shout out to Jalen Brunson Man he's balling Speaking of AI though Spotify and UMG Have revealed their new AI cover song feature Or if you're a premium user on Spotify You'll be able to use AI To make covers and remixes

Of songs from participating artists On the UMG roster Everything's for sale From participating artists That means the artist would have to agree to that. What would have none of the artists do? I think the younger artists that they just signed

that are just kind of there learning the business, they could get talked into real quick. Oh, it's another revenue stream. Here's $2. Here's $2. Nobody asked for this. I don't think fans want this. I don't think artists want this. This is stupid. Like at some point

draw, like everything doesn't have to be for sale. I understand it's a business. But why? Why? It is interesting that part of the article right there. UMG is the world's largest music company, and its roster of artists and songwriters include Billy Isle's Taylor's for Sabrina Carver to end post some loan.

Man, none of them are participating in this shit. Among many others. You see the one person they didn't name it. You see the one name that's missing from that. Spotify did not release details on how this would impact its finances. Surprise. Other than that. Yeah.

We have created the first alternative here for fans to create remixes and covers. Okay, but why AI? Like, I think covers on YouTube are super cool. Even the trend of white girls doing acoustic versions of all trap songs. Like, even I'm here for that as well. But, like, I mean, I guess it's like a fun thing for kids to do on their iPad. But I just don't think this is healthy for any artists that you're able to just do this.

Yeah, I don't get it. I don't see. I mean, well, they quote us in this largely an untapped opportunity because there isn't really a skilled way to make money on it. And what we did today was basically to unlock that opportunity. I think this is going to be additive both to artists, songwriters, the community at large,

Spotify rights holders, and so on. Okay, let me play devil's advocate because I know we hate AI and all of these things, right? So is it only going to be AI covers or are regular cover is going to be covered in this as well? It appears to be the AI tool. My first question is, if I go make an AI cover of Taylor Swift with a remix with AI, who owns it? Yeah.

I'm paying premium to make songs for y'all that y'all get to own and monetize. I was going to say. Because what happens if one catches? Mm-hmm. And one will catch. Oh, for sure. We've heard AI songs. It's not like AI can't make music.

If I type in something or sing some bullshit and AI cleans it up and it catches, and I have a fucking Billy Ilish remix that goes crazy? Who participates in it? And then Billy Olish now, I mean, they would probably approach Billy Olish to actually support the record, I'm guessing. Yeah, nah, I don't know about that. This just sounds like a way for the labels and DSPs and continue making money and not paying creators what they deserve.

I think the artists will get paid off. There's no way that the participating artists don't get paid off of that. They do. They will be paid. But are they paid what they deserve? No, of course not. They never are. Well, I mean, I think what it is is just the version of what Instagram and TikTok is already.

Like in the fine print, when we upload stuff to Instagram, it's owned by Instagram. The consumer is literally the person creating the content that they're selling ads against. This is just another version of that music wise. Now you become the creator that drives the revenue on the app that you're paying for. It's insane. But it's the same concept with all social media platforms. platforms. So it doesn't shock me that they wanted to do this with Spotify. It's their version of creating reels and shit that they can own. Ryan, can you see if there's some type of percentage of

what the creator may possibly get paid or if they get paid at all for it? They don't even let their own artists own anything. You think they're going to let us own anything? That's not happening. I mean, but that's technically, even if the artist is singing it and UMG does own the music or the song. If I create new lyrics for it, that's my intellectual property. So there has to be something where I sign away that right. Yeah. I mean, you sign that right away when you upload to Instagram or TikTok. If you go through the fine print of Instagram, when you upload that stuff, it technically does belong to them. So I don't see this being any different. I feel like they owe T-Pain or royalty, though. Some of you guys may be too young, but do you guys

remember the T-Pain Autotune app? No one had more fun in 2010. than I did. T-Pain had an app for your iPhone that you could literally like plug your headphones in and you can sing an auto tune the way T-Pain does. Voloco. Voloco? I just remember being the T-Pain app. I am T-Pain, yeah.

I wonder if it still exists. Yeah, 2009, 2010. That was a fun time. You know, the amount of songs we made on that shit. See, my T-Paid app was just singing it to the back of the fan. Oh, I mean, that was the original one. Yeah, that's the original T-Pain app. Cork memories are just singing into the fan.

Yeah, you got to sing into the back of the fan, you know. Well, the front of the fan, if you really wanted to get that tune in there. Yeah, really get that. If you could weather the storm, you got the best sound from the front of the fan. Yeah, if you could take that air hitting you on your face. Or also inhaling a helium balloon. That as well. You never did that, Ma?

That was the original Volsetto Pro Tools. I never did that Yeah make your voice go high You come on Everyone did that I never did that bro I mean I know that was a thing But I was I was

I never really fucked with shit like that Like inhaling shit No I was never that I wasn't doing You never sniffed You smoke weed for 30 years Never smoked glue Sniffed

Sniff glue no never sniff glue I never sniff glue either I sniff glue but I never had The good kind of glue Like I was sniffing Elmers I'm wondering why it did nothing for me No as far as I went with glue Is that shit draw on your hand

Oh my God Peel it. Yeah. That's the original paraffin wax right there. That's the original. I would do that shit now. I love picking that shit. I would do that shit now.

Yeah. I ain't never fucking sniff no glue and no. I wasn't into shit like that. Did you turn your kid that turned your um, your eyelids inside out? Never did that. Morrie definitely did it. No, my friend Jerome was so good at it and I never, I tried. Was Jerome Black?

Yes. I never did that. Last Audi belly button I've ever said. I wasn't into nothing like cracking knuckles. I wasn't into nothing. I hated cracking knuckles. Yeah, that wasn't in my thing. Like, crack it enough flipping your eyelids.

I just, that wasn't, I just wasn't into shit like that. Let your homie, let me crack your back. Pause. I'm not, no, niggas, don't touch me. How you? I remember that being a thing too. Thank God I had to participate. Yeah.

How do you do that? You'd like, take them as a backpack. Put them like no full Nelson and then like just like, I wasn't, you not getting behind me doing nothing. I told you why these kids got arthritis and shit now. Yeah, I was. I just wasn't into, like, I wasn't into those things. Oh my God.

One day I'll tell you how my little sister fell and she said her shoulder her. and I was like, oh, I got to like snap it back in the place. I got to like, yeah, it dislocated. I got to snap it back in the place. Don't let your children watch medical shows. Because why was I trying to put her relocate her or dislocate her dislocated shoulder? Mind you, it was not dislocated. It was perfectly fine.

It wasn't dislocated. I dislocated it by trying to do. Like it was perfectly fine. Yeah, man. Snapping my little sister like a Barbie doll. Just. That was better than doing real wrestling moves on your friends. Hell yeah

Like that was a thing The real wrestling moves? Yeah that's how you Yeah But you had to do that You never been putting The Boston Crab Well which one is the Boston Crab?

I got put in an arm bar before And then a headlock Maybe these probably been in the Boston Crabbe I didn't know she was in the Boston Crab Right there That's the Boston Crab Oh yeah

Yeah Yeah Yeah Shout out to Michael In Donald You feel like all your shit You're ready to snap So I put you in that

That's one of my favorite Lloyd Banks line Yeah I ain't a wrestler but I put your bitch in the Boston Crab. Yeah, the Boston Crab? Yeah, 100%. You think Banks has put your bitch in the Boston Crab?

A nigger is smashing girl like that. You got to kill him and his whole bloodline. You'll kill everybody. Everybody dies. No more banks are allowed. Noggin' it. Nigger had your girl like that? Nah, sir.

Everybody got to. Not only did she cheat. This is what she did. Yeah, everybody dies. Logistically, that's not even like possible unless you're doing anal. You don't know about it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

But me be into that. And the anal, yeah. Yeah. Let me into that? And that's possible not an anal though. Yeah. No, you could. Not with that angle.

Well, that's just, that's the still shot. Okay. You don't even see the rhythm of it. Of the motion. Of the Boston Crab. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, you could do it.

I don't know if it would feel great on her end, but you can say that you're yours yeah but then i could rap that i put your bitch in the boston crab it's worth it okay okay rory can i do that to you like later like what we like for the intro the intro being the roy in the boy and i'm the bottom yeah fuck you thought i was gonna be the what the fuck you think this is yo baby did let him put you in the boston crack no why not no i should do that to rory rory's so stiff though i don't he gonna crack All of them here is mad crack. That's because I never let any of my friends crack my back in seventh grade.

See, that's the problem. All right. I mean, for content purposes, yes. You can. And the monster crap? I need like a Memorial Day shot before we get into this motion. The Knicks are on a night. I'm in a good mood.

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And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good, can't be about food.

You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. While you guys were talking about some AI shit, I did open my phone and see that Jim Jones 22 minutes ago posted. Tell your man, I want to do verses against him since he made us lose our last verses at the Apollo. Call Swizz. Happy Memorial Day.

Smoke ain't your thing. We all know that. So let's settle this like this. I assume, safely assume he's talking about camera. Jim Jones versus Cameron versus at the Apollo. I've said a lot of things about verses where I'm kind of over it. I'm going to the Apollo for that with a bulletproof vest, but I will be there. First of all, Jim posting this as a, as a, as a from a note from the notes app in his phone.

And not, and not proofreading it. Yeah. The red line's still there. Yeah. I'm cool. I don't want to see that. You don't want to see it? Why don't be wanting to see shit?

I'm not going to lie. I mean, I wish this beef wasn't. thing like that's why that's why I don't want to see it because like it's it's been going on so long yeah it's it's the energy is just it's on another it's a different it's a different type of energy with jim and cam now so to have like a versus it's like it's just way too personal it's way to it's i think disrespect has gone too far nah it's a it's a good bulletproof approach though because i don't think cam's ever doing this and i think jim knows that so it's definitely not doing it. So yeah, so now that you know the Cam's not going to do it and you call them out,

like now you look like, okay, well, I offer. I get Jim. I get what Jim's doing. I definitely, but yeah, Cam is not, like you said, Cam is not going to accept this. He's not going to agree to do this. And yeah, and at least, you know, Jim looks like, well, I called him out for the grade and he ain't want to do that. So I mean, all right, well, let's talk as fans. I've been pretty vocal that I think Jimmy post half of his, career has been by far the best dipset member. I think his dysography is crazy. I think you can match their discographies now at this point with all the stuff that Jimmy has put out, you know, post-2010. Cam just hasn't been as active. But I think Jimmy's right there with

albums. Aversus though, objectively as a huge gym fan, I don't know if we can't perform dipset records that they're both on and we have to just go solo catalog. I don't know if I don't know if that's going to be a fun night for Jim. Cam Ron goes back too far into the 90s with hit make, like it's just a little different with the stuff that Cam had in the 90s. No, no, they're not in early 2000s. Like Jimmy wasn't a rapper. He was his man's like no dipset records. I mean, solo diff set records. If you perform diff set anthem again, like I don't know what, do you, Do you go off who had the best verse? Cam, like you're saying,

Cam just has too much you can pull from. Yeah. And then Cam got classic verses on other records that Jim wasn't a part of. That's what I'm saying. He has a 15 year head start. Yeah. Shit with Mace that's crazy.

Like, it's just, I think it's kind of unfair. But if you wanted to go album for album, I think, I know the sounds blasphemous to some people, but you have not been paying attention to what Jimmy has been doing the last seven years. He's been putting out crazy projects. But that's not what a verses is.

It's hip, for hit. Yeah. And I just don't know if that, like, I don't know if Jimmy can keep up. Yeah, Cam just has too much more that he can pull from. I think that's the advantage that Cam has right there. Like you said, he has more years for 10, 12 year head start, maybe even longer than that on Jim.

Classic verses on other records that Jim wasn't a part of, no dipset records, just other records that Cam was on. Yeah, I think it's just too much that Cam can pull from And don't get twisted, Jimmy has solo joints that are crazy But like, sure I like, what do you do with oh boy, hey ma, down and out Right Suck it or not

Like I just what do you do? Yeah Welcome to New York Banned from TV Mm-hmm Yes, he banned from TV He can spit that vert Yeah, yeah

It gets kind of complicated at that point Yeah I don't know what you do that. So, I mean, I'd like to see it. It would just be a cool night for Harlem if everyone like remain friends. Because they have a lot of mutual. So I feel like it would be with the amount of mutual friends they have. I think there could be a cool truce there of like, we're all here just to watch music. Hmm. I love to be progressive in thought. And I just, I know Harlem niggas. Once that let out happens, you the song, baby, do we survive the let out.

Will we survive the, oh, will we survive? That's all you're going here at the Apollo? Niggas from right down the block, nah. Niggas that don't even want to go to the verse that's going to be outside after that shit. Yeah. Yeah, nah, it's just, nah. Who brings out Jewels?

Yeah, then you get to that. That's like when your parents get divorced, and now you've got to figure out who you want to stay with. I get what Jim is doing, but it's just, it's not going to happen. No, it'll definitely never happen. That'll never happen. But what sparked this? I mean, obviously I know they've been going back and forth forever,

but was there something specific that just happened? I don't know. Jim probably saw something or heard something and, oh, hey, Jim, listen, man. Jim, like, listen, we could get a bag. Yeah. He just saw the French cameras going to finesse the bag if they do that. I mean, not if Jim is a part of, I was saying, not if Jim is a part of this negotiation, though.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it would be hard. Like we just saw the French versus like they probably got that idea like shit These comments are funny said he must be talking about Jada because that's the reason y'all lost You're blaming that lost old cam is crazy well there was that rumor that they That Jim had taken versus a little bit more seriously he was the one pushing for it because he understood like the value of it in the moment You know because he pays attention probably a little bit more than cam to that type of stuff And he had a set list together and cam refused to get out the car again this is speculation I don't know

and Cam refused to get out the car and then they had, they argued about the set list and then that's why they were rapping over the actual songs and it was a mess because Cam and Jim couldn't get on the same page.

That was, that was the rumor on a bunch of, as far as the set list performance. So I see why Jim is saying that based off what the rumors were. But I mean, he said, let's settle this once in for all. We can do it right in Harlem.

We know you ain't been here in a while, but they still love you. I'd like to see it I would love to see it It's not going to happen though It's not going to happen And I think that Cam and Jim would have to have

A private conversation first Before that happens Like this It's a lot that they have to talk about And They can't just see each other For the first time On the versus stage

After everything that's been said In the last year too Like Even GZ and Gucci Got on the phone before Yeah it can't That can happen Those two have to speak

And You know Put their differences aside and get on the same page before that could happen. I would love to see it just because it's a great display of music from both of them

in Harlem. I mean, it's, you know, it's, it definitely makes sense, but I don't, I don't see that happening. Only, Dane could put it together.

Yeah, we shall see, man, listen, man, maybe they may feel like, you'll listen, if we get the right bag is maybe we're putting our differences aside.

Fuck it, why not? They would get a bag for that. They would get a super bag for that. For sure. Absolutely. though I feel like that's one that like maybe you shouldn't get an audience why not to mall's point

will we survive the let out yeah I don't know like do that one on stream just y'all in a warehouse yeah I love my people but I know my people at the same time you get what I'm saying certain certain things ain't for everybody that's all let them let them stay home let them stay home can you think the Apollo's allowing that

this is what I'm saying I don't know It's the world famous Apollo theaters. That is a fact. Did you watch Ray J get knocked out? Oh, man, that hurt me. It hurt you? That hurt me to see Ray J get put through that, man. That hurt.

We ain't supposed to see that happen to Ray J, man. Why? He wanted to fight. Yeah, but like... I respect anyone that gets in a ring. I don't care if he lose. Yeah, but this was bad, bro. well he isn't he also dying this is what i'm saying like his health hasn't been no way there

to get knocked out like that like if if you're bleeding out the nose just performing like i just don't know why you know his eyes was bleeding like when you when your eyes is bleeding he wants to go out fighting you're not supposed to be in no ring fighting man i didn't even know this was happening until like two days ago when they were doing the press conference like who this was uh aden rosting that was set up? This was an Aiden Ross, man. All right, how did Aiden Ross get Ray J in the super hot fire in the same?

There was a few people. There was Lance Stevenson and Michael Beasley, Johnny Mansell, Bob Mennery. Wait, how did Lance do? Lance choked out Mike. He choked out Bees.

Yeah, okay. That's Abraham Lincoln right there. Yeah, first round, choked him out. That's Connie Island right there. Yeah, man. Yeah, but, you know, Bees are saying he wanted to throw hands.

He wasn't really with the, He wasn't really with the, nah. That's not how we give it up in front of Nathan's. You getting choked out. I think that happens with the Wonderwheel. It's going to be a fair one? Yo, man.

You can get the cyclone. Bees looked died at first. Like, you're throwing hands, but then, you know, you get choked out. There's nothing you can do about that. Who did Johnny Manzo fight? I don't know if I'm familiar with that name. Bob Minnery?

Bob Minnery, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's like a rabbit hole that I'm not. I'm looking here. He was part of the milk guys. and then is it. See, yeah, that's too far down the rabbit hole. But respect to anyone that gets in the ring.

If you fight and you fight and I respect it. You agree to get in the ring, salute to you. But Ray J, we love you, man. Don't do that again, man. MMA is just like tough though. I get because even Barstool did. I forgot the name of it when they would do their boxing thing and would even be like some of their employees would fight each other.

I get that because boxing, one, yes, is one of the most difficult sports. But you can't just wail your hands. hands like that. You can't be out of shape and try to kick too. Yeah, no. Like, if your leg doesn't go above that, like, I'll be even try to kick somebody and break my own fucking ankle. Like, let me go and sit down. I also don't like, no, even if they're out of shape, I don't know if I'm fighting a professional athlete like that. Muscle memory kicks in, I feel like at some point and they're going to kick your ass. Like Johnny Mansell, no matter what he's been doing, still performed at the highest level against the craziest athletes.

Yeah. Like, I don't, I don't care if you have a better angles than Cam Newton. Like, I'm not fighting Cam Newton. Fuck, no. It's like, but again, I'm an advocate of somebody that if you know how to fight, you'll probably beat somebody that doesn't, even if they're bigger than you. But when it comes to professional athletes, like, nah. Yeah.

It's still, you still. Like, we know Draymond Green can fight, but let's say Draymond Green didn't have any experience. I'm not fighting Draymond Green. Just the reach difference. I'm fucked. Yeah, no, it's definitely not. If it's boxing, that's different.

That's what I'm saying. Like, I could be a train fighter and still wouldn't be able to even get to Draymond. Getting in the MMA ring with Draymond Green is crazy. Like, bro, what you're going to do with that? He's what, six, nine? I know Drayman's probably going to go on to do retirement in media because he's great at it. It has his own show. I would love to see Draymond get in the MMA ring.

Who? Skip No, come on, man You can't do that Jordan Poole Hold up now You might have did something right there You might have did something with that one

That's the fight we need to see Jordan Poole and Draymond? Yeah, I'm watching that I'm watching I'm watching I mean there's footage Yeah, no no no no not that We in the ring Yeah, I'm watching that Do we have voice mails You've got mail

We do actually You're gonna play this. It's text. It's text again. I know y'all not gonna let this answer go, but y'all being pussy, de Marritson, or y'all being real extra pussy right now. I'm all over there with his chest out,

talking about why Gid not on no Jay Cole happen? Why Gid not know J. Cole how about? Why did you have no J. Cole future? Huh? Huh? I'm just saying it's fishy. Nigger, really? Yokey, your camp, you always to really sit down and be quiet.

Because how the hell your nigger really? free albums. There ain't no Little Wayne on there. The thing that's signed him. The thing that's considered up there with James one of the greatest ever do it. Little Wayne couldn't make it on

now one of them 50-ass songs he put out. What about that? Talk about that. Don't just be able to try to flip the other camp business out there. Wow, little Wayne. That on now on those three albums. I'll wait.

I ain't heard no Lil Wayne and break teaching. And how long? What's going on over there? Tell us that. If you're going to put their business out there talking about your campside well and the Bears

and Roy I'm supporting y'all because he's talking a lot of shit with his chest out like I'm just saying I said this I've been saying it but you know nobody won't talk about it you know why y'all ain't about why Wayne ain't on no break out let me know yeah don't throw stones in a glass house that's why I'm picking out of his voicemail

because jid and drake are the same I think what you're missing sir is the fact that I was saying who has an signed to them and that artist is currently nominated for rap album of the year and that same year that artist has one of their most anticipated albums released and the artist that signed to them that is currently nominated for rap album of the year not have a feature that was just weird to me that's a completely different no I think it's the same comparison I think it's spot on

it's like first of all it's apples and apples Wayne was never signed to Drake the way that Jid was signed to Cole, so that's completely different. Second of all, wasn't Wayne on Certify Lover Boy? Yeah, I think there was the last album. Yeah, they only have like 75 songs together. That doesn't even make any sense. Like this, you know what? Y'all be giving the owls, this is why the owls be hooting at y'all like this.

Because y'all be saying dumb shit like this. Yeah, because they be, this is why they be hooting like that, because y'all be saying dumb shit like that. That is so dumb. Yeah, it would be the ververt, like, Drake is Wayne's. Well, it was Wayne's artist. Not the other way around. Not the other way around.

Yeah, but you know Wayne never did anything for Craig. Wayne never did anything for Drake. Yeah, I think you just got it wrong. I think I get when you're trying to like find your aha moment at. It was the confidence in the aha. That was the funniest part about that. Yeah. You just the whole point of that.

If you call me pussy, I could call you stupid. See? That's true. You see what you shouldn't call names? Pussy for not bringing up a completely. illogical comparison. You're pussy for that. Yeah, so yeah, that, that,

you just got what we were saying, I think, confused, but yes, his point still stands and I think, I guess after Jid's tweet, I was correcting what I was saying, though. Seems to be a little, a little tift. A little trouble in paradise.

Well, just, you know, the waters may be just a little unsettled right now. Why was it a whole von bully? That's what I want to know. Well, I can assure you, that Jay Z and Kanye will never be making music again. I can promise you that will never happen. Yes. And we know that.

So, yeah. But thank you for the voice. I just don't know how you even come to that conclusion to compare those two. But hey, get it how you live, text? Yeah, man. I'm worried why I'm not on your album.

Hmm. Now, that's the question. I told you interludes, write some poems. I think I can find a text message. That's the question. That's the way. I'm waiting for the baby devokely. Mind you sent me,

you told me 500. You'll send me music and ask, hey, I know I sent this before, blah blah blah blah blah who can you hear on this but you won't hit me again and say oh like I'm waiting for your poem you see what I'm saying hmm talk about it you ain't really looking for it you texting about everything the fuck else you could see somebody how to fish would that being the answer that being your response it's my responsibility to follow up with you you could teach somebody how to you follow up with me with everything the fuck else right they don't got nothing to do with

my fish I don't like to rush art he got a point you got a point baby yeah that's got to come Organically. You don't got no fucking point. You can't rush art. That's you can. Plenty of niggas do it all day. Multi-millionaires. And we know those albums.

That's fine. They're multi-millionaires. Fuck the big three anyway. It was too many chefs in the kitchen. It was a mess to begin with. Why you can't just enjoy your artists without shitting on the other big three? I'm not shitting on the body. Who I'm shitting on?

And also three chefs in one kitchen isn't that crazy. It depends on the size of the kitchen. It's a pretty big fucking kitchen. I mean, you know, the world. Yeah, still a mess to begin with. Still a mess to begin with. Yeah, it was a fucking mess. It was a fucking mess.

All right, well, enjoy the rest of your Memorial Day. Yeah, seeing y'all. Are you going home and put something on the grill or no? No, I'm in the city. I might go see you going to the, you want to watch the game. Oh, I put some shit on the city. I mean, on the grill this weekend, yo. I threw down.

What does that matter? A girl has a cover. Girl has a cover. And you don't know where Baby Dee was at. It was raining wherever I was at, my love. Until next time, we're told you y'all soon. Be safe. I thought I was a sniff.

I'm that nigger. He says Ginger. That's Baby D. Happy Memorial Day. It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed?

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How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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