New Rory & MAL - Episode 499 | Brad Williams

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Comedian Brad Williams takes a break from his tour to come kick it with Rory & MAL, sharing some hilarious stories about little person fetishes and phobias, and meeting his comedy idols. He also d...iscusses his takes on the Chelsea Handler vs. Tony Hinchcliffe, roast culture, and gatekeeping in the comedy world. Catch his new special, Live on Short Street, on his YouTube channel! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever Bask and Lather use code RORYANDMAL for 20% offSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:04 I didn't get a chance to check it yet, but I will check it out soon. we are joined by the very funny Brad Williams is in the building today ladies and gentlemen Listen man Today on this show We're just handling all the fetishes
Starting point is 00:03:17 You like redheads We got you You like black people got you Dwarves we got that too We got everything covered here Yeah This is a very multicultural Multimensional show
Starting point is 00:03:27 This is a weird episode of bang bros Yeah Very weird There's an amputee Jewish person That's gonna come out later So if your fetish isn't cover right now.
Starting point is 00:03:38 We got people coming. We're going to get everybody settled and uncomfortable first. Israeli Muslims going to walk in and you never know. Yeah, so we have everyone's fetishes but also everyone's hates. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We have something that everyone hates on the show. Yeah, we got to do that. Is there a community people that hate you because of your hike? Oh, there's got to be. That's a weird hatred. Like, not that I understand hate groups,
Starting point is 00:04:01 but that's a very weird one. Yeah, if you're just like, I hate puntable things. I don't like things that I can kick and send a good country mile. Like, yeah, that'd be very, that'd be very strange. But, okay, so there's not hatred for little people, but I have run into a lot of people who have a phobia. They have a phobia of little people, which I don't know how that develops,
Starting point is 00:04:28 but it, like, one of my most viral jokes ever was about a celebrity I met who, I will say this, used to have this phobia. Okay. He has since overcome it and he is doing very well now. Did you help him with that? I did. John Stamos. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:46 John Stamos. Wait, hold on. I'm not just going to skip over to John Stamos. Oh no. It's a phobia. Yeah, it's a phobia of little people. I talked about this in my first special. I told the story where I did it, I did a comedy show.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It was a charity show with Bob Sagitt. And I had never met Bob or John. Before then, Bob Sagga. Yeah. And then Bob just burst in in my dressing room. He goes, Brad, come meet John Stamos. And I'm like, definitely sober. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, no, you understand. Stamos is terrified of little people. I can hear about Sagan's saying that. Yeah. And it's Bob. And it's Bob. So I'm like, is this a bit?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Is this a joke? He's like, bro, it's real. So I go into the dressing room. I go into Bob's dressing room and Stamos is there. And I don't even say hi. I just run up and start. start humping his leg. And I don't know if he's terrified.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Did you introduce yourself at least? No, no, you can't. I don't know if he's terrified of little people or just strangers humping his leg. Yeah. Because that could also be very uncomfortable. Right, right. Like, I don't care who you are,
Starting point is 00:05:50 unless you're Margo Robbie. I'm probably going to have a problem. Humping my leg. With you humping my leg randomly. But, yeah, no, he's really, he was really scared of little people, but. Well, phobia confirmed.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah. Once someone just walks in and starts humping your leg. Yeah. Like, I'm right about. about my phobia. Yeah. And then, but,
Starting point is 00:06:07 but then we, like, there's a photo on my Instagram of us that night. And he, he looks very uncomfortable. But then, uh,
Starting point is 00:06:18 then I saw him again, like a couple years later, uh, it was at a different charity dinner. I wasn't performing. Um, John saw me, ran up to my table,
Starting point is 00:06:27 uh, grabbing him by my hand. It was like, come with me. It's like, okay. So he drags me over to Jimmy Kimmel's table. and he goes, Jimmy, look.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Pump his leg. I'm fine now. I'm fixed. I'm fixed. I'm rushed out of rehab. Yeah. And then even more recently at the Kevin Hart roast, Stamos sent me a video of him on the red carpet with like six little people around him going,
Starting point is 00:06:58 Brad Williams, eat your heart out. Oh, and Lizzo had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's about Kevin Hart. Yeah, yeah, just Kevin Hart. Just Kevin came out. Dude, that's why, like, if they had asked me to do the roast, I would have fucked up the roast. Because now you can't do short jokes about Kevin Hart because I'm right there.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Like, I'm the one. Like, if Kevin were smart, he would have had me on the rose. Yeah. Because then, like, every short joke his way would be like, and look at Brad. Yeah, yeah. And look at Brad. Hey, oh, he's not here. Knock on the door on the shoebox.
Starting point is 00:07:33 he'll come out. Like that, yeah, so I, yeah, I would have fucked up the whole roast. But did you ask John Stamos, like, where the phobia, like, is it Olson twin trauma? Like, why does he have a phobia? I don't know. Like, a lot of fans will confess to me where their phobia comes from. A lot of times it's because, like, they were a kid and they saw a dwarf in a supermarket, and they ran up and said some inappropriate shit.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And the dwarf shockingly got angry at. you know and they're like they were mad and that traumatized me insulted them when they were mad yeah it's like well yeah I can't you know I can't walk into a barbershop scream the N-word and be like
Starting point is 00:08:17 they all got mad at me can you believe that well that's that's Chud's whole defense right now they all chase me and they beat me down so now I'm scared of them I'm scared of them it's like well yeah you fucked with them like you know don't poke the bear
Starting point is 00:08:33 But there has to be also like a huge amount of people that have a fetish. Back in my single days, thank God for those people. They kept me going. I was fueled on fetish. And you're like, Brad, why are you toured in this random city in Alabama? Well, because he's always on the road. Such a hard worker. I got a DM.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And people will be like, don't you feel like, exploited, I'd be like having orgasms? No, back when I was single, that was fine. I'm all, I'm all for whatever like, dude, like, because the same thing is for the people that are like, oh, you shouldn't have done that. It's like,
Starting point is 00:09:18 why? She would have a need. I fill the need. I get something out of it. She gets something out of it. We're two adults having a proper transaction. Like, no one like when you buy, a bagel from a bagel shop.
Starting point is 00:09:34 You don't look at one person like, you're, you're exploiting that bagel shop. Why? I'm handing them money. They give me something. Everyone gets something out of this. I'm her everything bagel. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So now, so now my life is explaining that my wife does not have a dwarf fetish. Because, because whatever you, if you're in a mixed race relationship or differently abled relationship, that's what immediately, people assume. Like,
Starting point is 00:10:04 my wife is Asian. She's Chinese. So everyone thinks that I have an Asian fetish. Okay. Just because it's like, well, look at his wife. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:12 they're right, but it's not, it's not cool. It's a healthy one. It's a healthy. It's a healthy fetish. Yeah. It's love.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. My wife wasn't like scrolling through like the cast of, of Game of Thrones. Just like, or like, like looking up the, Austin Powers.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah. Yeah. Looking up the cast of Willow, I am d, page where are they now and trying to find it like no that wasn't her thing yeah like she found me and i found her and now it works what what were the dms in your single days like how did they typically lead with the fetish oh see here's the thing so when a woman has not just a woman dude let's definitely throw dudes into this but like when people have a fetish they they are way
Starting point is 00:10:58 direct about it. Like there was not a lot of like beating around the bush. There were DMs just like, hey, so I've always wanted to dress a man up as a smurf or whatever the hell. And like, and you qualify. And I'd be like, well, get the body pain.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Let's send some photos and let's see what we're working with here. And if it was, I'd be like, okay, let's go. Call me Papa Smurf. Is Smurf the weirdest roleplay that you had to do? Yeah, well, there's not a lot of roleplay as dwarves can do. You know, it's like, if you're like, I want you to be a fireman. It's like that doesn't look that.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Maybe a fire hydrant. Yeah, I can be a hydrant. And then you can piss on you. Yeah, I could dress up as the Dalmatian, maybe do some puppy play. But like, I'm not, like, I'm not going to be a fireman. Yeah, that just doesn't check out. Yeah, it's like, you know, like, oh, I was. I want a cop to, no.
Starting point is 00:12:00 They're not putting pedal extenders on squad cars. You don't see any cop hopping off a booster seat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not. That's not going to work. Not going to work. There's only so many fetishes. It's like I can do Game of Thrones. If you have something where you want a man to work in a chocolate factory, I could do that.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Got that cover. Yeah, I can do Smurf. Now we're getting thin. Those are the main ones. Lepercon, Sure. But yeah, there's not a lot out there.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Have you ever seen, like, a role that you auditioned for and you didn't get, and then seen the guy that they went with and was like, what the fuck, man? Oh, so many. Yeah. I don't want to, I want to throw out there. But, like, there have been a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And, but what happens a lot of times is that, especially for dwarf roles, it's the same 12 guys. It's the same, like, the same guys at every audition. We all know each other. Yeah. We know each other's family. Hang out on a weekend.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah. Yeah. I see him at the meeting. Yeah. You know, like, it's that whole thing. Lizzo just booked all 12. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, hey, we all, we all got a Lizzo job.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Hell yeah. Love that. You know, so you can't really get too mad. I'm friends with him now. He didn't do a bad job. But so don't think I'm saying that. But if you watch the first Joker, the Joaquin Phoenix, there's a dwarf role in that.
Starting point is 00:13:27 and I auditioned for it. And the guy that got it, I feel I could have done better, but he did a great job. At the comedy club, right? Yeah, he knocked it out.
Starting point is 00:13:35 So he did a great job. But that was one where I'm like, oh, I wanted that one. That's a big movie. Yeah, I wanted that one. But that's why I love stand-up
Starting point is 00:13:44 because it's like, stand-up, I don't need a casting director, a director, whatever the hell, to approve of me. It's a very simple transaction. I tell joke,
Starting point is 00:13:55 you laugh. If you laugh, successful transaction. No one's being exploited in the transaction. And that's why I like that. And also with comedy now, there's no real gatekeepers anymore. You just put stuff online and it could catch fire.
Starting point is 00:14:10 It could go viral and all of a sudden you're selling tickets. It's a little more merit-based, which I really do, which I really appreciate it. I worked on this really terrible show on MTV called Broke-ass Game Show in like 2012, maybe. And it was kind of like a in the street game show thing where people could win money if they do
Starting point is 00:14:31 certain things and one day they had dwarfs involved with one of the games. Yeah. And the producer was like this overly liberal lady that didn't want to insult anyone. So we had like a whole meeting before of like how to refer
Starting point is 00:14:47 to everyone. And she was so liberal she didn't realize she was being offensive because on our walkies and on set she referred to him as our special friend. Do we have eyes on our special friend? Anyone have eyes on this special friend?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Flying the special friend, I'm like, he's a grown man. Yeah, you can't just say, Richie. Like, it's gotta be. Like, everyone was on the walk. He's like, that's more offensive. Yeah. Like, you can go, it goes both ways where you could definitely go so liberal that you end up just like,
Starting point is 00:15:23 and do you have our special tranny friend? It's like, okay. What are we doing? What are we doing? And then you can go like so conservative that now you're like there. There's a great sketch online about how like far right and far left actually agree on everything. Yeah. I think we've seen it.
Starting point is 00:15:41 But yeah, it's like, yeah, you can go so far that it's like your intent is fine. But it's your intent is not to hurt. We just good. But then at the same time, oh my God, our special. That's just. crazy. I was offended. I was like,
Starting point is 00:15:57 yeah. He has a name on the call sheet. I'm pretty sure if he knew that it was like his special friend on the way. Like, I'm sure he'd be like,
Starting point is 00:16:06 I'm not coming. I'm cool. And the role was probably worse. Like, I'm trying to remember. We were in Washington Square Park. I forgot what. If it was a dating show,
Starting point is 00:16:17 it was. No, they would just have like random games. For like tourists that would have to do to like win like 10 bucks. And I feel like he was just like holding a pillow with a ring. I forgot what it was, but it wasn't really needed.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. It was like an intricate part of. That's what dwarves are. We're like human dessert. It's not really needed, but it's going to be the most memorable part of the meal. Like, and you're going to be happy afterward. Yeah. We're human dessert.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a cherry on top. So you went to, you went to USC. Cali native. When did you know you wanted to get into standup? I always liked it. I always liked stand-up. But stand-up comedy is a job.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Like saying you want to be a comedian as a kid is like being like, I want to be an Avenger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're like, how? Right. Like, yeah, sure. We all want to be Captain America. But how?
Starting point is 00:17:12 Like, now there's millions of podcasts and everything that you could kind of listen and know how to break into the business. But at the time, like, I wanted to, but I didn't know how to do it. And the answer that I have now, the knowledge I have now is just like anything. Like if you want to start doing anything, you just start doing the thing. Like you want to be a comedian, go to anywhere that has a microphone, any open mic night. It could be a poetry slam. You don't give a crap.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Go on stage, start telling jokes. Like if you want to be a director, start directing stuff. Like, put yourself out there as someone who can direct a music video or short or whatever the hell. You know, if you want to start a podcast, just start by microphone, start. start yapping and then you never know you get in a bun Netflix you never know what can happen but yeah and Cali's a great city
Starting point is 00:18:01 Cali and New York are great cities to start in comedy yeah and now thankfully it used to be like just New York just L.A but now there's wonderful scenes in Austin Denver you had a great scene Nashville like so you don't necessarily have to be on one of the coastal cities
Starting point is 00:18:17 you can go you know obviously Chicago's always had a great scene but now it's like like I said earlier no real gatekeepers anymore. You can do, you can be wherever. Do you feel like that's a negative or positive? Both. Like it's positive because it used to be you had to impress an executive.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah. You know, or someone that, whatever, to get your break, whether it be a set on the Tonight Show or a Comedy Central Presents or something like that. But now,
Starting point is 00:18:45 uh, you can just go viral however you can. But also it's a negative in that. A lot of people, they start putting themselves out there way too soon, way too early. And if you get seen too early, you're not good yet. It takes a while. Like you kind of have to be in anonymity.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I can't say that word. Anonymity for a while in comedy as you're learning. Because you're going to make mistakes. Like, dude, if they, one of my biggest bombs ever, if they had a camera and I record it and I posted it, holy crap. One of my biggest bombs ever was at a comedy club, and it was Urban Night. And we all know what that means.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That means a white executive, put it together. Yeah. That means some white comedy club owner was like, how do we sell more chicken wings? Yeah, so it was bad. And then I was booked on the show because, sure. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And then my mistake that I made on that show, and I made this mistake very early, thankfully, is that I thought I needed to change my act to appeal to the audience. I thought, well, it's a mostly black audience. So I'll dance a little more. I'll say this. I'll do the bomb. Horrible bomb to the point, like the worst kind of bomb that,
Starting point is 00:20:15 where they didn't even stare in silence, they started ignoring me and having side conversations. and it was oh my god it was Chris like do you know how bad you have to bond to be a dwarf on stage and everyone goes nah yeah I'm gonna pay attention to my mozzarella like that was it was bad yeah so but like I'm glad that I didn't
Starting point is 00:20:35 be one of those guys that like recorded that set and then put it out there because any views a good view you know like that I'm I'm glad that was able to live and I could just talk about it now and not have it actually you out there for me if you started break dancing i would fall on the floor laughing i i used to be really good at it now i'm 42 i got sciatica it's not your joints aren't the same yeah it's not the best now my worm isn't as good it's a little like it's worm like a snail now yeah i'm doing that's not quite so good but but for a while i could pop and lock you know it was all right but yeah but
Starting point is 00:21:12 in you in comedy especially you have to learn and fail hopefully without a lot of people knowing. Like, it's a weird business because you also have to be in front of people to do it. You can't just, like, do you practice in front of the mirror? No. Yeah. Can't really rehearse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 The mirror isn't going to heckle you. The mirror isn't going to laugh too long or not laugh or whatever. Like, the mirror is just there. It exists. Like, you need to be on stage in front of people. You need to know how, gauge how they're reacting. And for that, you need a live audience. Have you redeem yourself in the world?
Starting point is 00:21:48 black rooms yes i have been back yeah i i i welcome you back i i have done chocolate sundays at the improv that's a real name chocolate sunda yeah chocolate sundays uh we've done uh mobeda mondays mobed oh yes okay that that's another one yeah it's but like and the advice i got certainly that night that works not just in urban rooms but all rooms and all comedy is just to be authentic just to be yourself. Just do what you do, and then people will respect that. They will respect the authenticity. Don't go, don't go changing just because you feel like, oh, well, this is, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:29 this is Jewish night. So I'll do these jokes. Like, no, just do you. Don't treat the room like your special friend. Yeah. Exactly. Just be yourself. Isn't that more condescending?
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah. My attempt was to bring joy, but at the same time, my, the way I was going about it was I know what you people like what do you mean you people right it's that it's that kind of shit if you're ever feeling down just YouTube Quentin Tarantino
Starting point is 00:22:58 on 106 in Park and it will lighten up your day classic he he's with Samuel Jackson Jamie Fox oh no was it the Django that they were promoting he puts on the craziest black accent
Starting point is 00:23:13 to talk to Lil Bow Wow it's the funniest fucking clip of all time. Like, he just gets in his mind of like what a 70s pimp would sound like and just starts talking that way. I got to watch. And it just cuts to Samuel Jackson's face the whole time. Like, I cannot believe he's doing this right now.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So it's like a, oh boy, here it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like a code switching, but in the worst. In the worst way ever. It's insane. Well, and I mean, to be fair to Quentin, like, I don't know if this is fair. He has a fetish. He does.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And the fetish is the end word. Jesus. He loves saying it. Can you put the volume on? All right. Hey, download this. I don't know how to do that. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:55 You know, so he put it on a cassette tape. Then, Jim, my man. Yeah, yeah. Comes back with Rick Ross. Rick Ross and the whole posse. This is real. Brad, this is real. This is just me.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It really switched characters. that yeah he doesn't say posse like that all the time he doesn't say posse at all he wanted to say another word sure a posse a word that he's written many times wow and just made leo say instead that's got yeah that's got to be so weird as as as like as any like as any race to have someone like just do what this think you do raise the guy because like as a little person I don't get that like if if Quinn Tarantino went on a dwarf talk show he wouldn't suddenly like hop on they put his knees on his shoes and be like so without a zango on sound what really represented we know
Starting point is 00:25:04 how you guys have to represent like certain girls probably dress as many me yeah yeah come out humping a laser like that's wild man like and so sometimes um the only time i've caught myself doing this uh thankfully on a black room but anytime i play canada i don't know why i slip into a canadian accent real easy like you know i'll be i'll be up there talking like me then all of a sudden i'll start to you know i'll just uh you know talk about certain things in a certain way and uh it's it's all right it's great on you know we we have we have a great time up there eh yeah yeah and uh yeah yeah It's like I'll feel my voice.
Starting point is 00:25:49 The Tim Horton is just coming over you. The Timmy Horton just flows through me. I feel so bad because I love going to Canada. But yeah, sometimes I, sometimes I started talking about like, you know, playing puck with the boys.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And it's just like, and I have nothing Canadian in my background. You look at me like, oh, it's because your family's from, no, my family's from Georgia and Texas. Like it'd be more authentic.
Starting point is 00:26:16 if I started talking like that. Like it'd be closer to that. That'd be more authentic to me, but that was a weird clip. You're just so used to role playing that you just get into the Canadian character. I don't know. Maul had to have a heart to heart with Demaris, man. I found out she was overpaying for great wireless. Not Demaris, too.
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Starting point is 00:30:50 The Jonas Brothers here. Our podcast is called Hey Jonas. Here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Have you ever had a chance to meet some of your comic idols? Who are some of them? I got to the coolest one for me was I performed in Mill Valley, California,
Starting point is 00:31:35 a small theater called the Throckmorton Theater, just north of San Francisco. And I'm on stage, and the theater only holds like 175 people. It's not that big. And I didn't know this at the time, but Robin Williams was in the audience. Oh, wow. I did not know that. Wow. And I got done on my set, and I go backstage, the green room.
Starting point is 00:31:55 and he burst into the green room. Didn't know he was there and all of a sudden like Robin Williams and he runs out to me and he goes, oh my God, Mr. Williams, you're like Prozac with a head. And I'm just like, well, okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I don't know how to take that. That is the best compliment ever. Like, I don't know how to beat that. Like, if, you know, when I finally leave this earth, I want that to be on my gravestone. Here lies Brad Williams, Prozac with a head.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Not beloved husband, mother. No, no, no. Prozac with a head. Right. I love it. But one thing about comedy is you will meet your heroes. If you pass a certain level, now we're like, we're all, because like comedians, one thing is that when we have to work on stuff, we're all doing the same thing. Like, every comic goes down to the cellar and works out their stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Every comic, matter what level, goes to the comedy store to work out their stuff. So it's like they'll be on the same stages. You never leave that. You can take a break. You can do movie, a tour, theaters, whatever. Stadiums now for some people. But you'll always go back to the clubs
Starting point is 00:33:05 and to work out stuff. So you'll always run into really cool people. There was one time I did a show at the Miami Improv. And I'm about 10 minutes away from ending my show. And then the manager comes up to me and just hands me a note. And I open the note. and it says, Seinfeld here wants to go on.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And I'm like, yeah, all right. So I had about 10 minutes left. So I go, I'm going to finish my set because, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:34 I got an ego. I'll make Jerry wait. And then I, I finish. And I go, ladies and gentlemen, weird stuff happens. So please welcome stage.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Jerry Seinfeld. And in my head, I go, he better fucking be here. Because if I, that would be the worst prank ever. Oh my God. In Miami, just
Starting point is 00:33:56 being like, ladies gentlemen, Jerry Seinfeld and then no one walks out. Oh, I would, oh, my tiny fists would have done damage that night. But meanwhile, he came out and said, what's the deal with dwarfs? Yeah, yeah, what the deal with your people?
Starting point is 00:34:11 They want to be called little people. I thought little people are just Puerto Rican. That kill in Miami. They would kill in Miami. Topasino supposed to be a little coffee this thing's
Starting point is 00:34:28 cocaine Cubans are just Republican Puerto Ricans Oh you're not wrong So yeah It was It was great
Starting point is 00:34:39 He came up He did a set And then then afterward We talked for a little bit Talk comedy You know We took some photos And stuff
Starting point is 00:34:46 It was great You'll meet You'll meet your heroes You got down You go down to the cellar here in New York in any given night
Starting point is 00:34:55 there's going to be some legends stopping by and it's awesome because I'm still a fan of comedy I love it I do it but I also love it so when I get to see certain people working on their stuff
Starting point is 00:35:08 or get to see you know you're at the comedy store and Chris Rock is hosting the Oscars and he pops by to do his monologue when Nikki Glazer is working on her Golden Globes monologue and she's popping by there's there's been some
Starting point is 00:35:22 crazy pop-ins where like one time Chappelle came by and ended up doing a show at the belly room and something like 100 people and less than that when I'm talking about and yeah but he did like three hours and he was literally calling friends from
Starting point is 00:35:38 the stage to have them come by and pop on stage with him like John Mayer showed up Tiffany Haddish it was the weirdest night but like those nights are those only in Hollywood only in New York only in wherever like they're just awesome I that's one of the coolest parts about this job.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah, we were, I think we had a show in LA or something, and we were staying at the Mondron and the stores right across the street. And last minute, I was like, oh, there's an 11 p.m. show in the belly room. I'll just walk across the street. Probably, I don't know, maybe like 30 people in the crowd. Bill Burr, Mark Marin. Yep. Shit, I think Eddie Griffin showed up.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It was like, what the fuck is going on right now? For 30 people. Like, this show could fill an arena. And then it's 30 people. I feel like comedy is the only like genre that can do that though. Yeah, like you're never really at a rock club. Yeah. And all of a sudden Dave Grohl shows up.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Like I want to try some shit out there. Yeah. I'm just going to try some riffs. And then after that, yeah, like David Lee Roth shows up. He's going to do it. And now here's Paul McCartney. Like that doesn't happen. No, no.
Starting point is 00:36:43 At the at the fucking whiskey at go-go or whatever. Yeah. like it does or you know you're you're not going to certain playgrounds and it's like well here here's lebron he's going to play for a little bit yeah step showed up anthony edwards is waiting jordan's in the car yeah jordan's in the car he's going to watch but like ironically you'll see adam sandler at the basketball court before yeah you'll see you'll see adam sandler so it's like as as big as you become in this business like uh uh if you look at the the app the people doing in arenas right now. You're Kevin Hart's, you're Dave Chappelle's, your Shane Gillis's.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Like, they're all popping in the clubs. So you're all still going to see them, uh, working out their stuff. It's, it's truly an amazing time. Do you prefer the smaller rooms? Because I mean, I've been, I saw Lucy. Careful. I saw Lucy. Careful. Careful. I talked to Louis C. I talked to Louis C.K. on the phone. Okay. I saw Lucy K at the garden. And it was good. Don't get me wrong, but I don't know. Comedy in an arena, it's not really the same. It's not, it's not the same. I've done a couple of arenas, never my show, but opening up for people or doing guest spots. And it is different. I will say right now I'm in theaters. That's kind of a nice little sweet spot. Yeah. Where it's still, there's still some intimacy there. Yeah. But then it's a large crowd. You feel
Starting point is 00:38:16 like a rock star and you could have you know it's a very nice payday and uh it it's a good balance i'm not saying i'm turning down aren't aren't aren't they are good yeah uh but yeah but then you go back and you do a smaller room a hundred cedar 150 cedar and you're like oh this is like um yeah i'm i'm i'm gonna go back to clubs soon um not the whole time like like um not the whole time like Right now I'm in theaters in large casinos and it's great. But I'm going to go back. I'm going to do a bunch of club stuff soon just because I want to feel that again. Like I don't want to be so separated that I kind of forget where I came from.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. You brought up the Kevin Hart roast. Yeah. Have you been paying attention to the post Kevin Hart roast? Yep. With the Chelsea Handler versus Tony Inchcliffe versus Shane. Well, and this. Kevin versus the breakfast club.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Sure. It's, this is my, this is my whole thing with the roast. Yeah. I'm, I'm not going to take like a side, but here's my thing with the roast. A, it's a roast. This is where we say inappropriate shit. Yeah. You can't be shocked that it's basically getting upset, you know, like, Wemby dunked in a basketball game.
Starting point is 00:39:37 That's what you do. That's what you do there. He disrespected the pitcher when he hit a home run off of him. That's what he's supposed to do in that thing. Roasts are supposed to. supposed to be the craziest, worst, most insane jokes that you can come up with, and then that's where you do them. The other thing that I think would be better in the roast form is that it felt like for
Starting point is 00:40:03 this roast, they got a lot of just the most popular people and not necessarily people that know each other, get along. like I loved the James Franco roast. That was one of my favorites. It was great. Because everyone on that panel knew each other. And when they were fucking with each other, they were all laughing.
Starting point is 00:40:23 They were all friends. They were all like, oh, yeah, you know that about me and I know that about you. And you knew it was all good. Like the old Dean Martin roasts when Don Rickles is roasting Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Like they're all friends. And I think that helps a roast be even better because it's not me walking out and making fun of someone who I don't know. It's like, no, I know you. So I know.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And you knew I was going to say this. And the jokes get crazier because then you know, like, if I were to go on stage and do a roast with Andrew Santino and Chris Porter and guys that I really know
Starting point is 00:41:07 like, oh man, the places we would go. And the places they would go with me. Right. Would be awesome because once again, as we said, it all depends on where the joke is coming from. And if you all know each other and you're all friends, that's when it all comes from love. So I would love for the roast to continue because I really enjoy them. But also I would love for there to be more friends. Like I love the fact that Kevin had Big J. O'Kerson on.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. A guy he's known for 20-something years. Where you get the personal stories of the 10K that he lent them. Yeah. There's a history there. You get shit like that. So then when Big J goes in all. them, then you know, like, yeah, but there's nothing but love here.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. Man, I, I, I, I, I remember watching the roast. The craziest moment for me was, like, I was watching the roast with my wife and we're cracking up. And then Kat came out. And I, and she's, my wife literally noticed my whole body chain. She's like, what, and I'm just sitting there like, they hate each other. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Right. This is going to be weird. This is going to go. Yeah. I thought it was a joke when they had his voice, like, before he came out, I thought someone was just joking on Kev. like, oh, Kat's here, joke. When he came out, I watched it live too.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, like, I thought it was Dan Soder in the background. You'd be like, oh, yeah, player, we're going to come on here and do some real shit in this motherfucker. Like, we all thought, that's what I thought too. And then cat comes out. I'm like, they hate each other. Yeah. And then like they squash the beef.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Yeah. No. It was the same way Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft at the Tom Brady roast. Yeah. They still hate each other. The cameras are on. Right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I'm friends with this person No, I'm like they can't stand each other I would like to see more roast Where like you know And if you did A roast with kind of like The Rogan crew I think that'd be fun if it was Joe
Starting point is 00:43:00 Tony Rory Shane Mark Norman like that whole group I think that'd be fun because they all know each other It kind of feels like a roast Will kill Tony anyway Well the way they have set up the panel everybody's there. It's kind of like a roast every episode.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah, it is that. It's more of an instant roast. Because you don't really know, you don't really do research, just kind of see people do their thing. But I enjoy the roast culture. It's just one other part of comedy. It's like the same way I enjoy a prop comic.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I enjoy, you know, roasts. If you have a podcast, like whatever form of comedy, it's just different types of comedy. And if you like it, awesome. If roasts of fans,
Starting point is 00:43:41 you, that's totally okay. You're allowed to be offended. Just don't, just don't watch it. Right. You know, just don't, don't, don't rage bait yourself and engage in the thing that you know is going to piss you off if you're a little sensitive to outlandish jokes because that's what's there. And like I can totally understand and empathize some people that were upset about the jokes Shane made about Cheryl. But if Cheryl's on Shane's podcast afterwards, laughing about it, yes. How am I about to be offended for somebody else? Correct. That isn't offended. Yes. buy the joke. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:12 And as Shane said... That's an arrogant fucking thought to be like, I'm offended. The person it's about isn't... Well, it's that thing where you're going so far one way that it ends up going the other way. Yeah. Where what you're telling Cheryl Underwood in that scenario is
Starting point is 00:44:24 you're not smart enough to know that you should be offended. Right. Like, I don't know your husband. Yeah. So why... If you're not offended, why the fuck would I be? Right. You're the, like, and as Shane mentioned, he called her.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah. Right. To say, hey, I wrote some jokes about... your husband. Right. Is this okay? Cheryl said, bring it.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Okay. If I get the green light, I'm fucking swinging. Right. And then at the roast, Cheryl's laughing. And then they do a podcast afterward. Cheryl's laughing on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Cheryl's awesome. I've worked with her multiple times. And she's always got a great attitude. She crushed on the roast. I was so happy. Absolutely. Because you could, if you've known Cheryl for a while,
Starting point is 00:45:10 you might think, oh, she's only about like the talk. That's who she was, the host of the talk or whatever, the view. I don't know what she did. But she did one of them. But then it was so nice to see her do that, be like, nah, guys, this is where she comes from. Yeah. She's a comic.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah. He can go. Yeah. Love seeing it. Yeah. And my thing with Chelsea Handler, like, I loved her set and I loved the angle that she took. I thought she killed and gave the other angle of it of kind of that. what they consider, I don't consider it,
Starting point is 00:45:42 but the alt-right comedy scene. I think she smoked her set, it was a good angle, it got weird when, was it, was it Dion Coles' paw that she went on? Yeah. Like, your set, said everything. You said it already. Said it already.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Like, now it's not even, like, funny. Like, now this is, like, weird. But, yeah, it's like the same thing where it's like, now you're going off the show and now you're complaining about the show. It's like... She started with Pete Davis's our moral compass tonight, which was fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Great. Like she killed her. Everything she said on Deon Cole, she said on that set and it was funny. Now it's just odd to me. Yeah. The joke about Tony or like guys going to Saudi Arabia to get a bag of money to get a bag of money but they won't go fight wars. Fucking hilarious. Brilliant joke.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I love that. But then it's like, okay, you said it. We're good. Now when, and that's my point where I want people to be friends or know each other. other or cool each other. Or like what we saw with Cheryl where then she goes on, because now I want Cheryl and Shane to go on a podcast and talk about how much fun they had and all the behind the scene stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I want that to happen. Yeah. But yeah. So, you know, but to each their own, Chelsea's made an entire career of not doing what exactly what was expected of her. So maybe I'm wrong in the whole thing. But to me, it rubbed me the wrong way. But I enjoyed the roast.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah. No, it was really good. I enjoyed it. How much can a roast help a comedian's career? Like post-roast. Like, how was that beneficial for a comedian? Look at Nikki. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah. Look at Nikki. It got her to host of Golden Globes. Well, she's killed that set, too. Killed that set. And now she's moving on. She was doing theaters. And I believe she's going to start going to some larger venues now, which I'm all for.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Nikki opened for me back in the day, one weekend. and even at the time I was like, oh, this... She's a star. She's awesome. She's great. So I really enjoyed it. So yeah, you're...
Starting point is 00:47:46 I mean, Anthony Jesselnik was launched from roasts. Yeah. Greg Giroldo would consistently... Fucking go. Have the best set and start off every roast. His son is hilarious, by the way. I haven't seen him yet, but I've heard. I saw a set of his son.
Starting point is 00:48:00 His son is super funny. I love hearing that. Because whenever a family member or a legacy or a Nepo tries to like break into comedy. I'm always like, oh boy. Like like the fact that the fact that Tony Rock is so good at comedy. Tony is such a relief because you're like your brother is one of the best of all time. And then you're still awesome.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like that's that's really cool. Like I always get nervous when like people come in there and like, I'm so and so's kid. You're like, oh boy. I've seen I've seen some legendary children. try to do stand-up and it not go very well. And I mean, respectfully,
Starting point is 00:48:40 his NEPO is a little different because you can definitely draw some funny pain of your father dying of a drug overdose when you were a teenager. 1000%. Like he's better than shit. That one's also a little different
Starting point is 00:48:52 because it's not like Greg is still around and he went to clubs and went, get my son a spot or else I won't do it. Like it's not that. He still had to kind of get his way in. The name will open a few doors for you. But, comedy is wonderful in that way
Starting point is 00:49:07 where even if the name opens you a door, even if I initially got booked on shows because I'm a dwarf and they think, well, that's different. Like, I still have to deliver. Yeah. I still have to be fun. It only works once with that. Yeah. You don't get invited back when you're not fun. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:23 we'll give you this. There are certain people that come from different venues of entertainment, reality stars, um, other forms that they decide maybe the career has dried up a little bit. And now, and now they're just going to do comedy. Good fucking luck. Say their names. Say their names. Oh, there is. Yeah, comedy, comedy has gotten close to the celebrity DJ worlds. I have seen a lot of
Starting point is 00:49:49 people now doing stand-up. I was like, okay. I'll use this as an example because he's already talked about it. Like when Charlie Sheen did his whole thing and then got fired from two and a half men and then was like, I'm going on a comedy tour. Yeah. Next week. You're like, wait, what? Well, he also had Jeff Ross writing for him. Yeah, it does help. Yeah, he had Ross writing, but it's like, you have not done this ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Like, I feel a lot about that the same way I imagine a lot of boxers feel about. Jake Paul, like, Jake Paul and Ray J and all these guys are going, I'm going to box now. You're like, no, you're not. It's not going to go. You're going to get hurt. And Brendan Schrobb did the opposite. Yeah, like when you go and you do comedy and you've never done it before and you're and you're not working out in the, like you're not working out building a set. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Like props to, oh, shout him out, comedian Michael Yo, because he came from the world of like red carpet interviews. Okay. And then he was like moving into the world of stand up. And when he started, he would do a Michael Yo presents and he would host the show. Yeah. And then he'd have great comics come out, like Saratiana and like kill. But then as he's doing that, he's getting better. So now and then he got to the point where he's like, all right, now I can go on on my own and he had chops.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Cyp. Seifer sounds did the same thing. Yeah. I was hosting at the store and Cyph was a fucking great stand-up comedian now. Like he really put in the hours to host everything and then now can, you know, do his full sets. You can't just, you know, get fired from a show. on HBO because of problematic behavior
Starting point is 00:51:38 and then just go into stand-up comedy. You can't just be like, well, now I'm going to headline. And then hopefully they can't see through my hair plugs under the hot lights. You know, as a random example. Of course, that wasn't specific at all. As just a random example.
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Starting point is 00:54:35 From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and it's unsecured. underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game.
Starting point is 00:55:00 The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the MyCultura podcast network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people,
Starting point is 00:55:31 like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer, and that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartner depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, listen up. The Jonas Brothers here.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Our podcast is called, Hey Jonas. We've here, since everyone has a podcast, we wanted to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it?
Starting point is 00:56:07 You know, or taste so good can be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. What years were you at USC? 2004 to 2006. So that was right in peak Matt Liner. I was Reggie Bush era.
Starting point is 00:56:36 You knew exactly where I was going. Yeah. What was the Reggie Bush, Matt Liner, campus life like at that time? Bro. They were bigger than an NFL team. Me and Matt were friends at the time. I thought he was about to say roommates. I was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:56:49 Not roommates. But like, we would meet at this bar. We found out Pac-Man Jones and Jellyroll were roommates in college. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I know Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah. I didn't know that. We had Pac-Man on the show. He's like, yeah, I was roommates with him. Like, wait, what? I got to call Jelly. Yeah. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:57:06 How is he not just doing? How is Jelly not written the Pac-Man shuffle or whatever? Jokes. Like, oh my God, Jelly. call me man we're going out we're we're gonna share some stories but yeah like Matt and I were friends
Starting point is 00:57:25 at the time because I would go to this bar called the 901 club it's a classic dive bar every every Trojan goes there and like we would post up and have a great time and it was a lot of fun and then Matt and I went off and did our own thing you know him going to the NFL and all that and then me working my way up but now because we're both
Starting point is 00:57:43 like now he's doing the college football thing and I'm a little more popular now like and we're neighbors. He lives not too far away from me. So yeah, like now we're like now we're reconnecting, which is really, which is really cool.
Starting point is 00:57:55 What like what is that? We've talked about on the show being at USC in Los Angeles and being this like, did Matt go to class? Like how the fuck are you in Los Angeles and that famous and a teenager? Yeah. It's wild that that was a thing because this before the Rams came back. Yep. They were the NFL team.
Starting point is 00:58:14 They were the NFL team in Los Angeles. And they were awesome. So, like, I know a lot of football players went to class because those are the types of classes that I was in. Let's just say, wasn't Matt Lanners, his fifth year, he just took ballroom dancing, if I remember correctly? He literally took one class. Yeah, he qualified.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Hey, man, that's why I love where college sports is going now, where now it's like, it's NIL. We're not dancing around this shit anymore. I love it. We're just, hey. Pay to athletes. You know, yeah, get paid. you're an unpaid
Starting point is 00:58:49 player for, you're basically a minor league football team and you're not being paid and you're bringing in like all the money for the university. I mean Matt Liner and Reggie Bush, the amount of money they brought to USC. Come on, man. Insane.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Yeah, that's like, so yeah, it was like the secret you're not supposed to talk about. Now it's like, cool, get it out in the open. Let's pay these players. Let's have Indiana with the largest alumni association in the country. Come back and know, you know what? We haven't been good at football forever, but fuck this.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Natty. Mark Cuban throws down Natty. Like, oh, okay, cool. Wild West, let's go. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, no, I mean, I'm sure Reggie Bush, his mom bought him that Hummer when he was in,
Starting point is 00:59:31 when he was in college. Yeah. They got that house. You know. They were in the hood in San Diego and they don't. Yeah. They just figured it out. Ironically that year.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Some good investment. Good moves, good management. investing in your superstar athlete son nothing wrong with it yeah dude bro this this is this is where i get mad this is where i get really upset because you look at the sanctions that the nc i threw down to USC for buying reggie bush a house and it was like damn near crippled the program piquel leaves because of it yeah he said he didn't he did we he did he saw the writing on the wall he's Well, we're not going back to the national title game anytime soon. Right. Ducees.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And then Penn State, what happens there, like, they had like a year of like, all right, you're not bull eligible. And then the next year they're like, we were a little hard on you. Let's let's let let let's retract the sanctions. Let's get you out there again. I'm like that you were hard on them. I think they were hard on the kids. I think that was a problem.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Hush money or hush. Pedophilia. Yeah. I think that was the problem is you literally had a hard on the kids. So I think that's the issue here. Yeah. So like that's where I get super pissed when people were like, well, USC cheated.
Starting point is 01:00:57 They paid the players. A, every college was doing it. Yeah. Every single one. You know, uh, yeah, they,
Starting point is 01:01:03 they were slapping down stacks of cash. Penn State was slapping cheeks in the shower. It's a little different. Which would you rather your kid experience? I'd rather my kid get a bag personally. my publicist is off camera very worried right now we're going to make it a clip what are you doing Brad
Starting point is 01:01:23 this is the real hey man I'm gonna sell tickets in LA that's for damn sure I will rip for my school how much of um canceled culture kind of ruined like stand up comedy hasn't ruined it at all really
Starting point is 01:01:39 no here's here's my opinion on that because let's go through a list of comedians who have been canceled. You have Joe Rogan, Dave Chappelle, Luis CK, Shane Gillis. They're all doing the hints clip. They're all doing arenas.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Okay. Yeah. Cancel me too. Cancel me too. Show that Penn State clip and cancel me. Because then I'll be selling out arenas and I'll get my bag. Yeah. What is going on right now in comedy is you have, um, like you always had the people out there that didn't
Starting point is 01:02:15 like certain things or got offended by jokes or didn't want comedians to say certain things you know like literally you go back Lenny Bruce was prosecuted by the United States government for what he said so there's always been a cancel culture but now there's just a whole
Starting point is 01:02:30 now we hear all of the objections because of social media because everyone has a voice because everyone has a podcast because every podcast needs stuff to talk about so we can talk about it but like overall it's not like if Bill Cosby put on a show tomorrow he said he goes though exactly he's
Starting point is 01:02:54 buy a ticket he already said how to go yeah because you're like what is he gonna talk about we just gotta see what this this may be the only night this happened yes so that's my example of like can't like if you are good certainly in stand-up now in other forms of entertainment I'm not going to say that can't cancel culture doesn't exist because like we talked about there's a lot of gatekeeper in other forms of entertainment that can say, no, we don't like that for our brand or image. You have sponsors that you have to uphold to. So I'm not going to say this for all walks of entertainment.
Starting point is 01:03:24 But for stand-up comedy, you're not canceled. Did it ever affect the way you wrote some of your material? Well, sure, but not in because I didn't want to get canceled, because I want to entertain my audience. So if the lines change, that's okay. It's my job as the comedian. to entertain my audience. If you don't like certain types of jokes,
Starting point is 01:03:50 well, fuck, okay, thanks for telling me. I will write certain types of jokes that will appease to you. And so it is the comedian's job, in my opinion, to adjust. But, you know, you still stay true to your laurels and find your audience, too. That's the important thing.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Because there are some people, they're like, I don't like cursing in my comedy. Cool. Go watch Nate Bargotsie. He's a brilliant, clean comedian. Go watch Jim Gaffigan, brilliant clean comedian. go watch those guys and you'll have a great time.
Starting point is 01:04:17 You want a little more edge? Okay, go watch some of the other guys that the Nate Bargazzi crowd wouldn't necessarily enjoy. It's okay. It's like genres of music. You can have country and hip hop. They don't have to be like, well, we have hip hop, so country needs to go.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Like, no, everyone can have their thing. That's where you get jelly roll. Yeah, everybody, yeah. That's sweet spot right there. Everyone can have their slice of the pie. It's totally fine. All these different types of communities. can't exist. I love
Starting point is 01:04:46 like, I love the fact that you could watch a Nate Bargotsie, you could watch a Shane Gillis, you can watch a Taylor Tomlinson, all do their own thing and all be great at it. It's a wonderful time. So, yeah, there are vocal people out there that
Starting point is 01:05:01 don't want to hear certain jokes and wish that certain comedians would go away, whatever, but there is also a lot of people that are still buying those tickets. So, comedy's at a really great time right now. I'm not going to rant about, we can't say what we want is I hate that shit when people say like
Starting point is 01:05:19 you can't even talk about certain things anymore you can't you just have to be funny right because you can tell you can tell an abortion joke you can tell a George Floyd joke it has to be funny it's just got to be funny and you have to understand that as soon as you bring up certain topics there will be certain people
Starting point is 01:05:36 that immediately when they hear a word they go nope and they cut you off If you are okay dealing with those consequences, fuck yeah. Do your thing. Live your art because as soon as you say you can't joke about X topic, I'll show you nine comedians that are doing that topic and doing it brilliantly. So you just have to be good at it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Every time we've had a comedian on here, I've always asked, I know you're an L.A. comic, but do you have any Patrice O'Neill stories? I never met Patrice. Okay. I never. I, every time I hear a Patrice story. They're the funny. Every time we ask, it's always the wildest story ever.
Starting point is 01:06:16 There was one where one of my favorites is he saw a comedian shadow boxing in the wings ready to go on. And he just walked up to one, just hurry up and bomb N-word. I'm just like, didn't know the guy. That's one that I've heard
Starting point is 01:06:36 that I really enjoy. But there, there's certain, comics out there that were just and Patrice is a prime example of like of you talk about like cancel culture like yeah he pissed
Starting point is 01:06:51 a lot of people off for sure but he defended Don I miss on Fox yes he wants to talk about Patrice didn't give a fuck but he was authentic he was authentic he wasn't like that
Starting point is 01:07:06 on stage and a completely different way off stage that way you always got 100% of that guy so yeah like oh and i know the exact clip you're talking about where he was on fox defending i miss and he's making jokes and there's someone there that's the advocate for people being a special friend lady yeah and then he's making jokes and the crew is cracking up he's going don't laugh at these jokes you can't laugh these are not funny brilliant just brilliant whether it be patrice o'neill whether it be norm macdonald these are comments
Starting point is 01:07:41 that were so authentically themselves that if you don't like them, totally fine. But the people that get it and who love it are, oh, brilliant. One of the funniest, Patrice, I think it was Kev telling it on Rogan's podcast that he was bombing at the comedy seller
Starting point is 01:07:58 and Patrice threw a phone book at him when he was on stage and Kev looked at him like, in the middle of a set. And he said, read it. There's better material in there. I thought he was going to be. throw the phone book and be like, stand on it.
Starting point is 01:08:13 They can't see you. That'd be a great heckle for me. I'll throw that out there. If any of my audiences... That's the new trend. If you want to throw a phone book on stage, I'll get on it and then tell some more jokes. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Kev had some of the funniest Patrice story. In that same episode, too, I think, Patrice was staying at Kev's house in L.A. when he was with his first wife. And they walked into the house and Patrice was jacking off in their house. They called him jacking off. Knowing Patrice, probably even thought.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And after he was done, he looked back at Kev's wife at the time. And Kev said, nothing I say is going to change what happened here. Nothing. It doesn't matter what you say right now. Nothing's going to change. It is what it is. Very true. Brad, let them know what we can catch you at, man.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yeah. Go to bradwilliamscom.com. That is a website. site. That'll have all the tour dates for the Tall Tales Tour. That's where you can watch my most recent special live on Short Street, which is on my YouTube channel. That's where you can get my new podcast,
Starting point is 01:09:21 Height and Babble with me and my opening act, J.B. Ball. We're exactly the same because I'm a 4-4 white guy from Orange County. He's a 6'3 black guy from Florida. Exactly the same. Exactly the same. So it's a lot of fun. And yeah, Bradwamscombe.com. That's where you can go for everything. When are you in New York?
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm in New York in... He's in Portchester on the 31st. I'm in, I'm doing New York proper, doing town hall. I think it's in September. Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. We'll definitely be that time. Yeah, no, come out.
Starting point is 01:09:50 We got to go for that one. The Long Island Railroad's on strike. I don't know if I'm going to Portrait. But Town Hall, I would definitely, definitely want to go to show. Yeah, it's really fun venue. I've played it before. Yeah, we did a lot of show there too. The thing about whether I play New York, Nashville, Vegas, any of these cities that have a lot of
Starting point is 01:10:09 entertainment, I'm always so. honored where because it's like New York you're competing with Broadway every live comedy venue like there's so much every music venue there's so much going on and that people still buy tickets to see me I'm forever grateful I know a lot
Starting point is 01:10:25 of people are you know times are tough for them right now so if you spend your your hard-earned money on a ticket to see me you get a babysitter you pay for the subway ticket the parking ticket you get dinner beforehand holy shit I have a responsibility to get the damned a show I can give
Starting point is 01:10:41 you and that's what I'm going to do for you. Yeah. No, I hear that. We really appreciate you coming through. Appreciate you. Right, man. This looks great, man. Yeah, look forward to seeing the live show as well. Yeah, man. Thank you, thank you guys for having me. Thank you to my publicist who brought a dog. Yes. Noodle. Shut out to noodle. Shout out to noodle. Thank you for your, the Asian guy and staff that went and got me a slice. Yeah, yeah. I walked in, you guys reading the most amazing pizza ever. What's the name of pizza? Industry.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Linnistry. Linnistry. Shout them out. He ran and got me a slice. Some of the best piece in New York. I don't want to shout them out because the line is already too long. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Yeah. But if you're in New York, you know about Lina's here. Yeah, it's one of the best spots. Great, man. Such good pizza. So yeah. Thank you guys for having me. No shout.
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