New Rory & MAL - Episode 50 | "The Fighting Irish"

Episode Date: March 18, 2022

Warning: This episode is sponsored by sauvignon blanc. Please drink responsibly. (We dedicate this to you, Reddit)The guys are back in their home studio, congratulating Jussie for his jail escape. They determine he should turn his story into a movie, and forbid him from ever using the black power fist again. Rory reminisces on his grandmother's past, and the team wishes him a Happy Saint Patricks Day, which leads to him giving a quick run down on the holiday's history, and his fond childhood memories of it. This leads to a conversation about the parades in NY, and Mal insists on having a parade to celebrate heterosexual males. Mal informs the listeners that he sleeps naked and unfortunately, Demaris had to find this out the hard way. They then get into 'Bad Vegan' (spoiler alert if you plan on watching), explaining the plot, and again being surprised that white women are easily swindled out of money. Mal reminds y'all he won't play your beats to Jay, and Demaris and Rory start throwing 2015 dirt on each other's names.  Eventually, they get into new music, giving reviews on Lucky Daye, Durk, Dave East, Slaughterhouse, + more, and Mal addresses the elephant on the couch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Gay two pockets out. Come on, man. All the streets safe. I thought you were going to hold Jesse down. That one 50 was lying. Y'all shook to go on and sell. Got that cut in less and more than half. Last time you ordered a meatball sub.

Gay Tupac is home. Jesse going in on this. Gay Pock back. Listen, man. I would be lying. I would be lying. Tutsi Pock is what they call him? That's what they called juicy?

Oh, okay. Listen, man. Jesse, he thought he was getting at $150. He got up there. He said, I'm not suicidal. He was scared to death. He ain't want to go behind the wall. Oh, I have a different theory with that.

What theory do you have? That he was going to kill himself? No. Yeah. Yeah. No. He was going to die with the life. Yeah, he wants to be a martyr.

A martyr for what? For Subway, for his life. That's not. He wants to be, all he wanted was to be this social justice war and be looked at this way. Right. And it didn't work. So if he killed himself after he was, because you know he's been writing this as a screenplay in his head. He thinks everything's a fucking movie.

He thinks that this is a, uh, This is a... He definitely believes that this is a film that he's starring in. He definitely feels like this is something that he's written in his head. Yes. He's like, okay, this is how it was supposed to go. He just didn't foresee jail time. No.

He even factored that in. He played this speech in his head, though, before he went to court. Like, I'm going to make my movie scene. This is going to go down in the Civil Rights Museum when I was saying I didn't kill myself. Then he's going to go kill himself. Yeah. even he's the worst screenplay writer of all time I don't know if I don't know if he was going to kill himself

I think he was I just I think that Jesse like most men are scared to go to jail I didn't think I'm terrified I'll tell you that no I didn't think that he was prepared to do 150 days I think that in his movie that he was writing in his head that jail time he didn't write that into this what that third act of juicy in jail he didn't write that into yeah he didn't write that into the script so he was like

that was a curveball he didn't So he stood up and said, listen, if I die, I'm not suicidal. But what if juicy like ran the yard? What if juicy was snatching your oodles and noodles? Oh, J. the juice, man. Listen, man, it's just, listen, we went through that whole time. We know what Jesse was trying to do. He was trying to, you know, have his face at the forefront.

And during the pandemic, during the whole Black Lives Matter movement, you know, he was trying to find a way to just, you know, attach himself to the, the whole movement and, you know, just be one of those faces where he now became, you know, super famous. He had some fame with the show, with Empire. Well, his dad recorded music in prison. I don't see why he didn't think of that. Lusius Lyon went crazy when he was in jail in the second season. Yeah, but he didn't, but in Justy's film that he was writing, it didn't end in jail. Do you remember Lucius Lion in prison? On Empire. I don't remember the exact scene, but for them, to like, you know, he was back in his element because he was from the streets and he was

like back in jail and he started like, yo, I think I could write music again because like I'm back. So he basically turned back into hustle and flow? They fucking, 100%. They were saying it was like an offset of hustle and flow. They fucking like, I think they like murdered a guard and then like locked a door and a brand new recording studio appeared and one of the inmates that killed the guard just happened to be a great engineer. Of course.

That's how it happens. You never met a great engineer in jail. And then Lucius Lyon goes in there and one takes the greatest verse. ever heard. Off the dome. So what is what is juicy thinking?

He could do his shine album over the phone. Jesse was not he was not trying to go on him behind the walls. He did it six days. He did his six days.

I did my six days. I just saw a picture of him. He got on all black. You know what I'm saying? Like listen, man, I don't know, man.

It's just the things that people do for, you know, cloud and fame these days doesn't surprise me. I just think it's funny that, you know, Jesse gave that speech about not killing himself.

He's not suicidal. And then six days later, he walks out of jail. And he's appealing his 158. I don't think he thought he would get bail on his appeal. He was, I know he was mapping out the suicide. Then he was like, oh, wait, hold on, I could appeal this maybe. You know how crazy that would have been like if he went or had with the suicide? And they were like, oh, he was going to let him out in like six days.

They go to his cell to be like, yo, yo, you, juice. He hanging there? Release the juice. The juice is loose. Oh, it's funny. about people hanging themselves in prison. I'm on my 13th reason. I keep telling you.

Oh, man. Listen, man. Jesse Smolet, I hope you learned your lesson. No more of them funny, weird movies that you write in your head that nobody cares about. I actually really care about the movie. I don't, I'm not going to lie to you. Again, I want the movie of his version, though. But you know why I fuck up?

I don't want the real Netflix doc. I want what he wrote in his head of what he thought was going to happen. I mean, but this is why it's fucked up because when it first happened and I yell bullshit on it, people killed me. I remember. I remember. I don't know what I'm talking about and this, that, and the third, and they called me all kind of names. I remember it all.

But it's just like, come on, though. Like, if we, let's say this is a movie that Jesse obviously has written and he had it all mapped out. It was a bad movie. I don't think so. No, it was a great movie with terrible writing. The meatball sub made it home. You can't get your asshole by two big Nigerian men. No, they weren't.

They were white races. Oh, yeah, at the time, white racist. What white racist man is going to leave behind a meatball sub? Well, they got beat up by Jesse in his story. He got on stage and said, and I fought them off and beat them up. I'm the gay Tupac. That's what I'm saying. The story kept saying.

He said it. I didn't say it. He said he got beat up. He went home with a noose around his neck. Yeah. Bleach poured on him. There was no bleach on the meatball sub. Like, how do you get your ass with a bottle of bleach and the sandwich is fine?

He was hungry. Ma, every time we talk about this, because we talk about it often, that that meatball sub really stumps you. Like that's the key. DeMaris, if I go out, if I go outside right now, and two guys, I'll get into a fight with two guys coming out of fucking, what restaurants are out here? Yeah, vegan, baking, egg, and cheese is making it home.

The salad ain't making it home. If niggas hit me with bleaching shit. It'll be romaine littering streets. Yeah, like, it would be kale all over the fucking place. Are you kidding me? If I, Demaris, if I say, hey, look, these two dudes I just got into it, they put a noose around my neck, hit me with bleach all kind of shit.

And I come down here, and I was like, yeah, I went to get a salad, and I sit down to open the salad. Salas totally fine. You're not going to look at me like, but wait, you just got jumped and the salad made it out? Okay, in his defense, have you seen the subway bags? You could literally suffocate and murder somebody with the subway sandwich bag. Yeah, but the handles are flimsy. They are.

The handles are a little thing on the subway plastic bag. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Meatballs would have been everywhere. Like, that's why that, that to me, had the meatball sub been like splattered all over the concrete, then I would have maybe said, Dan, they fuck. Jesse was out there. at thumping. But it made it home.

The sandwich made it home. Like, come on, man. Jesse was out there thumping. It's fucking hilarious. That's where he fucked up at. He didn't cross that T and dot that eye. He was supposed to step all over the meatball sub and leaving on the concrete for evidence.

And we would have believed this story. Ever since that sandwich made home, I said, oh, this is bullshit. Well, long story short, he out. I think I'm going to add someone to our bingo card. Who? Definitely, Jesse. No. The meatballs sub?

besides me boss up you know when Tupac got his appeal but didn't have enough money to bail himself out so he was still chilling at Clinton and then Shug came to Clinton and was like I'll pay the bail you're just like I want Wack 100 to play that role for just for just in county be like yo got your appeal and I got your bail

but we got a squabble first we gotta get out we gotta get out for me to bail you got to get out you know Wack would get out with Jesse Wack going to get out of Jesse it's still never not funny to me I'm sorry we keep saying it. Wack wanted to get out with everybody in the industry. I think everybody in the industry got to fight Wack at some point because he just want to get out.

That's how you get jumped into the music industry. Yeah, you got to get out with Wack. You need your 30 seconds with Wack? That's the fact. Wack got to get his 30. I saw something on line. I think it was fake though. Wack said, well, Wack said Sikashi 6-9 is dirt poor.

He had to give him $20 for gas the other day. Those two are, oh, 6-9 and Wack. Those guys are good at the end of that, man. Wack said he had to lend. First of all. $20. don't get you shit with gas right now. You know how much gas?

You don't know much gases right now? He got... What's wrong with whack, man? Did he send it through Western Union? Insert ad here. Bam. Look at us. Love a call back.

Yeah, but Jesse's free. So I don't know if we give him a round of a pose for that. You can just clap. You can just clap for you. Yeah, I'm happy for Jesse. Yeah, clap for Jesse. Jesse's home. Can I ask as a white person?

when are you allowed to use the black power fist? As a white? Not as a white man. As a black man. I just feel like you're kind of sullying the representation of how iconic and how powerful that image is. And what it represents. Yes, of everything that it is. I just feel like just coming out, just throwing it up.

Jesse, listen, man. Jesse Smolet and inventing Anna is the same person. at this point. Oh, for sure. And I don't see, I don't see Anna raising the black fist or the white, the white pale knuckle. She was German, maybe a swastika. I don't know. Yo. Yo. Happy St. Patrick's Day, Roy.

Not that those two are the equivalent. But it was a group of people that got together and did some shit. They did some things. That's your favorite European saying that, not us. I'm not everyone's favorite European. That's just thinking about you being the favorite European. opinion. Jesse is no longer allowed to raise the blackfish.

I think he can raise the black book and put lies on the front of it. I think he can have a book of lies. I think he can probably get a deal with Subway at some point. Maybe they can kind of tie something in there. They're not really batting a thousand

with spokes people. Right on brand. I can't. This is right on brand for them. This is what I'm trying to tell you. This is the Subway life. Yeah, this is. Jared walks so Jesse could fly.

That's what you're not seeing? Jared did some nasty-ass walking. He was a rapist, bro. Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. But this is right on brain for subway. Did they kill him in prison yet? They must have him so piecey-ed-up. No, I don't think Jared was killed.

I don't think he died. He used to lie. Them big-ass jeans he used to have. Them jeans was big as fuck. First of all, and if you're telling me that anybody lost that much weight by eating subway sandwiches, like, come on, man. Like, see, this is what I'm saying. We don't pay attention to the fine print.

Like, we just go along with a lot of shit that people tell us and just, like, believe it. Who, whose publicist has a worst hairline? The Babies or Subway? Who is stressed more? The baby's publicist. I think it's higher volume with the baby. I think the things that happen with Subway though.

Yeah, no, those are like, but those are too like, bam, ban. If I was in that PR department. The baby is banned. It's like day after day after day after. Like, it's just, it's very consistent with the baby. Can you imagine working in the PR department? Wait, Jared did what? I quit.

Yeah, that ass. No, no, no, that ass. That ass, I quit. And then you know there was the one, like, assistant or intern that, like, stuck it out. They were the company man through the Jared thing. Yeah. And they just went up the corporate ladder. They're probably the head of PR now.

Mm-hmm. I'm sorry. The guy from Empire did what? Me, boss up. Leach. Why are we included in this? We do not sponsor him. Listen, man.

But, you know, all jokes aside, I am. I hope that Jesse is okay. And receiving the mental health that, mental health help that he needs. The mental health help that he needs. But please, Jesse, no more of these weird fucking movies that you're writing in your head. No more of them, please. Yeah, we don't need no more of this. They let your ass go.

This was the warning. This was the warning shot. They let you go. You only did six days. You're probably going to win your appeal. You're not going to have to do those 144 other days. Or just go sit your ass down somewhere. Or kill yourself or act four of the movie that you wrote.

Like, we could change. Change it a little bit. Just go sit down. Do you think this affects Jesse's career in film and TV? No, I think he gives him a career in film and TV. I think he does his own shit and we're all going to watch it. Okay. Well, and...

Is this why Lovecraft Country got canceled? I'm blaming him. What do he have to do with that? His sister. Well, honest was going down. Isn't his whole family in that shit, you were saying? Well, yeah, his whole family is like in the industry. But his sister was Lovecraft Country.

He got won Emmys and got canceled. I think it's because of him. Listen. It might be. Okay. I asked you about the Black Power Fist that's being overused with Jesse in that situation. This point I can speak on. You can't overuse the crying grandmother in court.

That's for specific reasons for innocent people. Yeah. Don't give me the crying grandmother for this situation. Yeah, because what jury is really going to look at a crying grandmother and not feel some type of empathy? Though I think the crying grandmother did call him a social justice warrior or leader. Was, yeah, it was some... Jesse Smolet is a social...

Like, like the thanos of social justice is what she was saying. She used an insane word. I don't even think she said warriors. But that goes back to what I said about grandmother's not knowing that Mijo is a fucking demon out here in the streets of... Stop calling him Mijo. Just because Ed is not here, it doesn't mean you get your shit off. No, but that's what the grandma's called that grand Meeho. They don't know that Meeho is out here shooting up the basketball tournament.

They don't know that he's shooting up the cookout. Jesse's grandmother didn't know her baby was out here lying about white men whipping his ass with a bottle of bleach and tying a noose around his neck. See, grandma was back in the day, so she probably believed it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So the grandmother, yes, we have empathy and we love grandmas. It's hard not to love grandmas. But you got us know when the grandma is just oblivious to the grandson's bullshit.

Okay, but also let's reverse this and we can get off Chessie. This is a good topic. When does the grandmother's head? history get erased just because she becomes a grandmother? Yeah, because grandma was a hoe at one point, too. Hey. There's some nasty-ass grandmas out there that we look at just because they're grandmothers that they must be wholesome.

Oh, absolutely. I know a few grandmas now that are grandmas, and I'm like, yo, she used to be a, like, for example, I was watching. He might be Jesse, but she might be a hussy. Yeah, absolutely. I was watching Wu Tang's ice cream video. And I thought to myself, I said now, Miss Butter Pecan right there. Beautiful.

Beautiful. What's amazing right now. Favorite video girls of all time. I'm willing to bet that she's a grandmother right now. Well, we don't know what she did. Maybe she just enjoyed the song and liked Method Man. No, but yes, probably. But this was 30-something years ago.

I'm willing to bet she had a kid and by now her kid had a kid. Well, she would be around 49, 50 now. Well, shit is just different now because when we were growing up, most people's grandmothers were like older and we only know them as older. Now I could find a 36-year-old grandmother. Bernice is right there on you for you page Yeah the grandmothers have changed Bernice could have easily been

A chocolate caramel Sunday The ice cream video She's been in plenty that I've loved Yeah She's a grandmother I don't I mean I don't know anything about Bernice's past No I don't need I'm just saying

But I just don't think her I just don't think her and Iileen's IG pages Would look the same Her and who? Eileen My grandmother I was lost I'm like

Who the fuck is Eileen? Yeah Well hey Hey, grandma, how are you? She just passed. Man, Roy. I didn't know. You can't wait.

I didn't know your grandma had just passed. No, we were all like on a call. I was like, hey, guys, have to leave town. I'm going to bury my grandmother. I don't remember that. I'm sorry, bro. It's totally fun. How long ago was this?

April of last year. So coming up on a year. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yes, I do remember now. It's totally fine. Hard quarter of your way. I thought you read like just like a couple weeks ago.

I'm about to say why you didn't tell me. I only joke through pain. Okay. Let's make jokes. Rest of my. Eileen. I don't know. Eileen could have been

in the Newark Streets going nuts. I don't know. Oh, Aline was probably hot in her day. She probably in the 60s was the one. So actually, no, no, no, I've seen photos of my grandmother. Yeah.

My grandmother was fucking bad. Yeah. She was beautiful. I've seen younger pictures of my mom. I'm like, ah, I know where you was, I know when Marvin Gay came to town. Oh, listen. I feel like I've already told my mother story on here.

But my grandmother, sometimes you just have to find little tiny details and kind of make your own story or assumptions when grandmothers are saying things. Yeah. Because they'll make it sound so beautiful because she's told me the story of how her and my grandfather met. She was on her way to a church dance and met him

and then they fell in love. A church dance. That sounds so wholesome. A church dance. Y'all was on your way to the underground spot. That wasn't no church dance. She had Alzheimer's, so she would always retell stories, but I loved it.

That was the best. sounds insane, the best part of Alzheimer. She would forget she would tell me stories and I would love to rehear them. And you could finish a story, you could add a little details that she left out before. You're like, oh, that's the first time I heard that part. She added in right before her death

that she was going to that dance with another guy. Oh. Oh, shit. So Eugene might have thrown the map down crazy at the dance. And she was like, let me leave this bozo and go get with Gene over here. The fact that my father and my grandfather's name is Gene just reiterates that. They don't.

They don't. What the last time a girl had a kid, a boy was like, well, he's a Eugene. Only West Indian still do Eugene. Oh, yeah, Eugene's and Trevers. West Indians love Trevor. Oh, they love a Trevor. They love a Trevor. Trevor's never going on this.

That's going to be Trevers for the next 800 years. And adding Anne to the second part of a name. Only West Indian is. I was people to do that forever. But now, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, Anne is definitely. Carrie Ann, Kelly, Ann. Oh, the aans go crazy in Jamaica. Absolutely.

Absolutely. But yes, rest and peace to Grandma Eileen. And also happy St. Patrick's Day, man. Thank you. It was a lot of traffic coming in earlier today. I didn't know what was going on. And I looked out the window, saw 40 Rourries walking up the block. I said, oh. 40 Rory's was fucking hilarious. I said, oh, okay. This is this is St. Patty's Day. Roy is. I came with my fighting Irish on today. Come on. You know he got the fighting Irish pride. Are you kidding? I didn't go crazy with it. Are you? Are you, are you? I didn't realize I was wearing this. I don't even know. I don't even know.

That shit don't match with none else he got an eye Not at all this. You know, it's St. Patrick's Day. It ain't got a match. This is a sick-ass yellow combination. That thing got every shade of green. That's right.

Rory, you fucking rep your pride, man. I feel like I'm a hipster, Irish hipster now, though. Irish hipster, that's interesting. Kind of like Bill Walton back in the 70s. But go ahead. What? Shout out to Pige.

Happy St. Patrick's Day to YouTube. Peach is Irish? His last name is Thorndole. I ain't no fucking Irish person. He posted himself, and I said, Pidu Irish. He said, hell yeah. I said, okay. Pete, they're an Irish.

He just need an excuse to drink. Okay, and this is why I'm a hipster when it comes to St. Patrick's Day now. Mm-hmm. It's just like they've sullied the holiday. Sullyed. Double entendre Sully is Irish. Absolutely. I'll see where he going with it.

Okay. Listen, bars. Someone keeps putting my mentions of this Irish rapper that was freestyle. And I always said, now it's up to me. I got to battle him. So I'm already stealing the Sully double entendre from him. So he can't take it. I forgot his name.

It's been in my mentions for two days. I'm going to find him when we take a break and we can come back. An Irish rapper. Is Millie's from Boston? Is he Irish? Probably. I would assume so.

Most people from Boston are Irish and racist. I fuck with Millies, though. I fuck with him. That comes to territory. I don't lie. But yeah, man, happy St. Patrick's Day. Are you getting drunk tomorrow? Yo, it's going to be nice.

It's fucking in New York tomorrow. We outside. I kind of want to find this Irish rapper. Separately, we are outside. But yeah, the holiday now, well, it always was. There's no real meaning to it. And I used to enjoy it because it was actually a big day for my family. We would do the parade on Fifth Ave.

Like we would actually march in the parade, go to someone's house after. We have friends that own a bar in Hell's Kitchen on fucking 48th and 10th. Like it would always be a good family shit where I would see people I hadn't seen in the minute. You know, people get older and that family shit doesn't happen as often. Now I just look at St. Patrick's Day as, yeah, this is just everyone has an excuse to wear green. to throw up in the street all in the name of my ancestors. It's like, no, there was more to us. This is what they would have wanted.

I promised there was more to us. Matter of fact, St. Patrick's Day is the celebration of the patron saint of Ireland, which is St. Patrick, who brought Catholicism to Ireland. And there's symbolism of him chasing the snakes out of Ireland, which is really the British and all that shit. Like, there's beauty to it. And it was like, let me just chug this beer and throw up on. Absolutely.

On the snakes. The next person I could see. But who do you think started that tradition? Y'all did. I mean, it's not like we were not going to drink on a holiday. Right. Okay, but y'all drink. Y'all drink.

I appreciate if people are celebrating Irish culture, but I just don't think that's what it is. I'm very self-aware. People are not celebrating Irish people. When we have the African-American Day parade in Harlem, right, if everybody just came out there and started fucking, you know, Millie Rocking? Twirking and shit.

Like, there's more to us than twirking and fucking rolling blunts people like if everybody started rolling blunts twerking Miley Cyrus did that first oh like I just feel like like I just feel like if me and my family

put a float together and went on the parkway on Labor Day it just wouldn't go over that shit would be fucking hilarious the same backstage day parade has to be a man like the African-American Day parade has to be in Harlem

for the West India parade like yeah just it wouldn't hit the same yeah um You'll be at the West Indian Day parade looking for your future wives No, Roy put his bandano You know how he'd give it up that day No

But he'd be waving that flag Yeah, bandana I'm covering and paid from Juve the night before Oh, you even go home wild I'm in crowd Hights going nuts But that's a good topic We landed on like

And I've done but I can't drink green beer Cultural differences right See for y'all to have Y'all parade For y'all to have the same package of they parade Right Do y' y'all have the same worries

Is that us as African-American- Because all Irish people are cops. I was about to say, I feel like there's a lot of police that they're just having a good time. Like, there's so much violence that is just around the African-American Day Parade in Harlem and then the West Indian Parade. Don't do that.

No, it is. Don't do that. What you mean? Don't do what? Because it's just as much violence involved in all the Irish activities. Yes, yes. All them bar fights, them drunken stuff. Oh, that's a regular Wednesday.

That's a regular Wednesday. Okay. But they're drastically different scenarios. the violence that ensues from the St. Pasture State Parade is because people are getting drunk in bars and they fight and yes, there's a high level of that.

Yeah. It takes place on Fifth Avenue. Now as Eastern Parkway is in a section, gentrified or not, a terrifying fucking place to be. So when you get violence from those, when the parade happens,

it ain't because it's the parade. It's because there's probably neighborhood beef and we all just happen to see each other. Because we're all in the parkway today. It's not in the name of the West Indian culture. It's just that they do it in the neighborhood where most West Indians are. And they may have a personal issue with somebody. It's not in the name of Trinidad.

But this is what I'm saying because when we, like, as younger, when we would go to Juvei and we would go, you know, to the African American Day parade in Harlem. Congrats to both of us for surviving every Juvei that we've been. Yeah. But this is what I'm trying to say, do Irish people have something the night before the parade that could be a little treacherous, a little dangerous that they're doing? A little mischief night. Yeah, like a little where you know, you know it could get crazy out here.

Probably more so before all Irish people started moving to the suburbs. Like when there was real. I mean, the Bronx still has a pretty good hold of Irish neighborhoods. But there's not really Irish sections like there used to be. As far as like Hell's Kitchen, certain places in Brooklyn, the Bronx heavy. That's where it could happen now as when, you know, white people, were afforded the ability of the GI Bill and able to get, you know, no loan,

no down payment homes all in the suburbs, whereas black people didn't get those. They all just separated. Like, there was no more culture like that. And I feel like all of that happens again more on the neighborhood side of like, yeah, the night before we're getting excited for the parade tomorrow.

Let's all go outside. Oh, I don't like him. You know, because, I mean, if you've ever been to Juve, it was a known thing getting dressed and going. Like, yo, be careful. It gets crazy. the night. Like, you know, like, it got to a point where my mom didn't even allow me to go anymore

because it was like, every year you heard somebody got shot, somebody got killed. I remember the last time I went to the parade in Harlem, African American Day parade, I think a girl got a face cut. It was just like, it just got to a point where it was like, all right, man, like, if every time I want to, every summer I want to go to this parade and it's like, you got to have this, you know, be careful and all of that. It's like, you don't even. That feeling is like, I'm not going to that. Like, because I'm not trying to be involved in none of that shit. Well, I mean, the parade itself during the day on Labor Day, I don't, I don't, all the times I've been my whole life hasn't been violent.

It's the night before. Juve is really when it happens. The parade during the day is that. Yeah, Juvei, Juvei is well. I mean, I love it, though. I love the Caribbean culture. I mean, it's my favorite. I mean, I don't even fuck with St. Patrick's Day like that.

When's Labor Day? Yeah. That was going to Brooklyn. Do you guys think they're going to let them have the parade this year? I hope so. Oh, Labor Day Parade? I mean... They didn't do it last year?

No, they didn't, right. Oh, no. I would love to see it come back. I know that for me, when the Puerto Rican Day Parade used to be a thing that we used to go to, when we were young and then what happened with, I think it was the year when guys were trying to pull girls' bikini tops off and all that happened. They kind of like shut it down and became more strict. And that's when it was over because it was like on one. side of the street you can only walk like this way.

And if you wanted to go back that way, you had to like cross over and then go. It was just a lot that was going on with that shit. You guys ever been to the Pride Parade in New York? Of course. Are you crazy? The what parade? The Pride Parade. Best place to baghicks. I've never been. If you want to know where the hose is at, they had the

private parade. Never been. Never mind. Oh, I'm lying. I actually, I actually was down. I was in the LES one day and I didn't even know. You stumbled upon it, right? I didn't even know, no bullshit. I didn't even know it was the Pride Parade. And we were trying to to figure out why it was so much traffic. And literally, like, you see people walking.

I'm like, wait a minute, is the parade today? And we were downtown and got stuck like a couple blocks over during the private. Didn't get out and, like, you know, walk around. We was in the car trying to find a way to get around the traffic. Cheat code, I'm going to give some game. If you're a straight man, go to the property. Every single girl with a gay bestie is there.

They're excited. They see you and you're straight. there's not a lot of competition and they think oh what a progressive guy he's just here to celebrate the LGBTQ community what a really nice guy

you look amazing best place to bag women why can we we should start the heterosexual parade here we fucking go no I mean like we should why not

like the men that love women parade you sound like you sound like Fox News and be like well there's not a white entertainment television network

why is their BET this is reverse racing like can we start a parade or some type of festival where like just like heterosexual men that just like love and appreciate and respect women can just get together and have like a bunch of food trucks and artists perform like we should do something like that so every hip hop festival that ever existed yeah but a little more but then when we need we need we definitely me and rory could put a little more class into it or where is a capo like

like you know give out free like spa dates for all of the women and like you know have like a bunch of vendors like giving out free massages and have like facials and stuff like that for the women like you know, I don't know. So what you're saying is the straight male pride parade is going to just celebrate women. Yeah. So we should just do a women's parade. That's what you're saying.

Yeah. Why we can't do it? I think it would be great. Because this just speaks to straight men of just our focus. No, we don't want to be celebrated. We just wear the hose at. That's it. That's it.

Because if you were genuine with this, you'd be like, nah, I should just be the fellas. Like, we should just talk about us. First of all, I never want to just be around the fellas. I was like, yo, we're here to celebrate men, here to celebrate straight men. I don't want to be around just a bunch of men. You're just trying to find a way to bring those. I want to bring some women together and just like, you know, just watch them frolic in a point.

But you know how unappealing we are? So how much you just go to the International Women's Day parade? When is that? I feel like we don't pump that up enough. I would go. Oh, you don't follow the right woke women on Twitter. Yeah, when is the International Women's Parade? Was it, did it pass?

Yeah, but, you know, it'd be a lot of white chicks, so. I love white. I love women. I don't care. White, Asian, black. I don't care. I love women. I'm saying that's probably,

that's the 99% majority of it. I don't want to get too woke on it, but I follow people that are just like, this is to celebrate white women. I guess we'll have to go to, what was the fest that we were? Oh, ew, it's in Poughkeepsie. I'd rather chew a king jacket.

Thank you. Not going to Poughkepti. Not my flavor, neighbor. But I know, what about the, I want to stroll with a white woman on the upper Hudson? I'm cool. What about, Curls Fest. Is that Curlfest?

Curlfest is an amazing festival. Yeah, let's go to Curl Fest, bro. I was going, whether you was going or not. I need you to go. I need you to go. Where he goes like every year of Crow Fest. Of course I do. I love Girl Fest. And the people that put it together are amazing as well. Wait a minute. So you go to Curl Fest every year. You didn't tell me? Yes, I've told you.

I told you for two years straight. Oh, yeah. Actually. He did. I remember. And it's on, like, record. We record. We record these things. I thought this was my brother, man. He went to the Curl Fest without him. You don't even have curls. Neither do you. I don't care. I still want to go.

I want to celebrate curls. We're going to curl fest. When is curls? Curl Fest. Curl Fest. Curl Fest. When is curlfest? We're going to pod for free, whether they have electricity or not.

When is Curl Fest? We'll just bring the mics and sit down. We're not even recording Curl Fest, man. I don't know if they're having one this year. I don't see one. No, see, that's fucked up. The year I want to go to have. They haven't had one since 2019 before the pandemic.

Oh, no. We're bringing it back, were we? Was it at Randall's Island? You're going to press up to t-shirts ourselves. It was at Rand. Yeah, Randall's the last one I went to. Yeah, Carl, my whole team is sick as well. Curl Fest.

I'm in there this year. They have great music acts. They do podcast stuff there. It's not a curl in the world. I don't want to see. Listen, man, that's, Curlfest is a spot. I mean, we could try to package the weekend of the straight male pride parade.

Yes. Like, what? We can all march to the Curl Fest. And I'm laughing, Roh. I'm serious, though, man. We should do that. But look how unappealing that would sound. Hold on, I'm blowing my nose.

When? Let Carl get me on the camera. I'm blowing my nose. Right, he's going to zoom in. Tamara, sure, you're a woman. Am I? Yes. You don't have proof.

You don't know that? I've seen that thing one night. Yo, let me tell you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That was a joke. This will officially be a whole Reddit threat. I know, I know. That's why I said it's a joke.

It's a joke. But I will say this, though. When we were in L.A. Here we go. The great time in LA. So, DeMaris, I had put my stuff in her bag one night, and I left my iP, my AirPods in her bag. So I said, Demaris, before you leave,

like, you know what I'm saying? Come to my room and drop my AirPods off in the morning before you leave. Okay. She's like, all, cool, I got you. So I had, I'm knocked the fuck out. I hear knocking the door. I'm like, I know to say housekeeping. Two chicks in the bed.

I got the do not disturb shit on the door. I know housekeeping ain't knocking his home. So I said, oh, shit, it's Demaris. I sleep naked, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just can't sleep with underwear on. I just can't. I'm okay.

But it's DeMarris. I open the door, DeMaris, like, you ugly. And him and my air. He was ugly as fun. Yo, you know how when people just wake up? I'm like DeMaris. I still close the shit. He was closed, though, right?

No. I mean, I was like behind the door. I didn't even look. All I seen was Moll. You just saw his hips? First waking up. His hips creeping over the side of the door? Listen, man, I was knocked out.

Saw that hourglass? Hip-cooking up to the left side. Like, who wants to just be like, look how she talks to me. Like, you're ugly and then hammy's an airbag. I was like, you're ugly as fuck. I was like, well, have a safe flight. Love you too. She was trying to make you feel secure.

You were vulnerable and naked. She wanted to make sure that you felt comfortable. I didn't even know that he was naked because he was so lost to leave. That you had nothing to fear about her being a predator. It was like 8 a.m. How you knock on a nigga door wake him up and tell him he ugly and hand us some air pods and leave? I'm just like, yo, the respect level is crazy around here, bro. Because I look at them all like a brother.

So I'm going to talk to you. Like, she said, you ugly here. I was like, yo, all right, man. Thank you. I thought to have a safe flight. I thought a question. Reddit, Reddit is going to love this. If someone said, yo, it's mad dudes at this spot as a woman that's not going to be appealing.

No. So that's why I'm saying, if we do the straight dudes parade, mad women are not going to flock. Like, that's not true. That sounds terrible. That's not true. Because y'all can get women, which I ain't going to like the type of woman. That is a fact. That's not true.

Because soon as this All-Star weekend, the women are there. It's not the NBA. parade. It basically is. It's not the niggas with money parade. It's just the it basically is.

It basically is. If you put, now Rory called me. It's not 6.5 and up parade. See, that's not what Rory said. All-Star weekend is niggas will money parade.

Rory said if I call you and say, yo, I know the spot. The niggas is at. I said, I said, I wouldn't. If Rory calls me and said, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say,

yo, the niggas what money is in here. I'm on my wife. I didn't use the N-word. I didn't say the in-word. What if I ever ever called you and said it's... Wait, hold on.

I was with the jokes, but you're not about to put that on my jacket. I've never said that in my life. I'm so what to say? You're holding on to the N-word. That's not the part I care about. I'm not mad at the end-word part. With money, like, ew.

Like, look who you... And how can I identify that? That's nasty. You can't identify men with money? No. Because I know a lot of broke motherfuckers that look rich. Matter of fact, I know more broke motherfuckers

that look rich. Absolutely. I'm with him on that. Than rich people that look rich. I'm with him on that. But y'all can identify the broke motherfuckers that look rich, that's not really rich. You can identify.

Yeah, but you women can't do that for shit. Yeah, y'all get tricked all the time. Now, who? Women. Women, not you maybe, but women. I like my broke niggas that look broke. I don't know. Women get tricked, though.

Yeah. You seem to have, and ooh, they be hot. They be on Instagram. The captions, listen, between, uh, you was really, whenever they say you was really, really lucky, relaxed, that caption means a nigger, a nigger swindled you. And I wasn't lucky. I wasn't lucky.

It worked. It happens often with you. Yo, I hate when you. chick said that. No, you was into it. Yeah, he swindled you. You thought that that nigga was going to start cash app and you and Zellie used to money. When Nikki had us saying and you were lucky nigga if my mean ass like you.

Oh my God. I remember that? You don't remember them? Of course. Girls like anybody though. Y'all like any nigga that y'all never seen before, you ain't from around here. Yeah, y'all like them type of nigg. And then he turned out to be an ancient nigga from wherever he's from.

And then y'all mad. And then y'all and your caption with the nail emojis talking about you was really lucky. Like, no, he wasn't. He's been going to state-stating women Like he's been having a ball He's racking him up Don't say now it's time To focus on yourself

Yeah Like get out of here with that shit man Get out of here Speaking of swindling though Man The Tendus Swindler is the greatest story On earth I just want to reiterate that

No And he didn't do nothing wrong Have you watched bad vegan City boys is up I'm on episode I'm on episode three of that All right describe that Some because I didn't get a chance

Is female offensive still Just say women Just say women Well I'm including Female No no Women includes everybody But I'm including animals as well

Because that's where it gets offensive Right because we refer to female I'm asking If you're including animals Then you can say female Okay The female species Including animals

Are the most gullible Oh come on the fish too Yeah I've never caught a male fish in my life I'd be catching man Man marlin with vaginas. He don't even know how funny that is what he just said. Like, you don't even know how funny it is.

I said it. That's what I'm like, why you're looking for fish dick? Like, what the fuck you're looking for fish dick? I have never caught a male fish. Like, they know, like, oh man, that's bait. Get out of it. Only the women. Oh, that looks, that looks appealing.

Yeah, what the fuck? It's so weird to see this shrimp in this neck of the woods. Yeah. I didn't even know they like this type of water. Why is the shrimp just, this fish isn't even trying to get away from me. It's just going to let me eat. fucking hilarious. I've never called a male fish.

I have so many fucking jokes off that one. Go ahead. What you're saying? Between Twitter swindler and bad vegan, City Boys is up. At this point. But there's one seat. JT. being freed,

can't even save y'all at this point. But Rory, there's one, there's one distinct thing that both of those stories have in common. Vegans? No. Oh. They're both white men.

A black man can't get away with that type of swindling. What? Twitter swindler was. was from the Middle East, I believe, no. Spoiler alert. He looked like he can be Cuban or fucking... We're about to do a spoiler on bad vegan. He looked like he could be Latvian.

Yeah. What is bad vegan about? Okay, so bad vegan is about... He do look like all the guys in Dubai that try to look like Drake. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, so, yeah, I get it. Or Drake trying to look like the guys in Dubai. I don't know.

I mean, whatever day is. I don't know. Does Drake have a shoulder it? Maybe he's trying to look like that. Drake is definitely just a girl in Dubai. Drake has neck braids right now. why y'all be putting that on drake he ain't doing that so drake don't have neck braises

he literally posted you didn't hear what he said oh he said drake has definitely pissed on a girl in dubai i thought there was a compliment that's how they say thank you that's a slight that's how they say thank you yeah wait if Drake hasn't I'm judging him you know saying thank you by paying somebody oh it's a pleasure seeing you

I have Instagram girlfriends like That are my friends that are IG chicks. Yeah, me too. They're getting pissed on out there. That's just what it is. We know what it is. I just didn't think that.

Anyway, because then we have like B-I-N right now. We almost got bingo. N-Z-O. But the bad vegan. Bad vegan is about a chef who married another chef. And they got into, they created this restaurant together. And then they separated. And then she started her own raw food.

restaurant. I mean, met a guy. She was a hopeless romantic. All right. Let's slow down a little bit, though. I'm just trying to get it. What was the, uh, we'll explain it to her. We have to break down certain parts. She bought the restaurant from her old chef do, right? Well, no. What happened was her old husband called a guy who was basically the investor. Called Loyon. Yeah. And he, the, the husband said, I want her out of the business. I don't want to work with her no more. Then the wife called him and told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. He told him. The husband said. He. And the husband said, he. The husband said, he. And the husband said, he told him the same thing. And the husband had had a little history with restaurants and bad business practices and losing money. Spent a lot of money. Spent a lot of money. So the guy, the investor decided it was the better investment to go with the woman attractive, new on the scene, the whole idea of raw food being a new thing.

And with Today Show, celebrities, Tom Brady was there. It was like a new, it was a new project form. But we can't leave out the first beginning part of when she was kind of. had her husband, the chef dude, in her sights. She was plotting for a while. She was a little sous chef. She couldn't even get into culinary school. And had a crush.

He could cook and he was an attractive guy. But she had a specific plan. And the attractive is not going to have women. Had a specific plan for that gentleman for a particular reason. I just want to leave that note right there. Oh, yeah, yeah. She definitely had an angle. She definitely had plans.

She definitely had a blueprint. Now, as a vegan, I want to ask you this next question. when she opens the other restaurant, can you, is it a little misleading calling a vegan restaurant Lucky Duck? No one else found that hysterical with me. Well, I get the, I get it. Was that the name because the duck didn't die?

Yeah, the duck is lucky because it's not going to eat. But think about the algorithms. If I'm a vegan, duck is not making my algorithms. No, but I think she was saying Lucky Duck, meaning like, lucky for you, I'm a vegan. I'm not going to cook you. Lucky for the duck. Yeah.

I think that's where she was going on with that. And was that the name of the restaurant? I thought it was pure food and wine or something like that. And then it switched. And then she did the other one, which was Lucky Duck. Okay. I just feel like if I was a serial killer, I wouldn't open a club that says, I'm not going to murder you. It's your lucky night?

Yeah. I left my knife. If you care so much about this shit. And you just save one duck. Like, what are you, the president on Thanksgiving? Well, you can understand the, okay, lucky duck. Like, I understand it. I understand it.

It's just a weird vegan name. I get it. I get it. I'm not getting where the swindle is coming from. Oh, it's going to come. Oh, it's going to come. Oh, so she was a hopeless romantic. So then she breaks up with her boyfriend, the original chef.

She finds this new guy who's like, you know, he's basically another tender swindler. But you're leaving out a huge portion of it. Which one? She meets Alec Baldwin. Okay. She meets Alec Baldwin. Mm-hmm. She's heartbroken from her heartbroken from her heart.

husband's situation. She literally only feels good at the restaurant. She goes home. She's fucking sad all the time. She gets a dog to try to feel better. She sees Alec Baldwin. And I'm not going to make a she dodged a bullet joke because that's very insensitive. But he didn't make the joke. Go ahead. Lucky duck. Never mind. It's a callback. I get it. The name of the restaurant, lucky duck. So prayers to all parties involved. So, so. Prayers to all parties involved. So Alec meets hilarious. How short was that prayer? It's an internal one.

Okay. It's the patron saint of Ireland, St. Patrick, Catholicism. I'm praying all the time. Today is a high holy day for me. Got you. This is Ramadan for Irish people. Right. We just celebrate differently.

Got you. He has managed to offend every single, like every category of people in the first. I'm an equal opportunity offender. Yeah, I don't. Everybody could get it. It's okay. It's all right. Okay.

Go ahead. Continue. she starts getting a little, you know, chummy with Alec and starts to like him a little bit, but she's still heartbroken. I respected it. She was like, I'm not ready for a relationship, but still trying to get him like that ex.

Alex is an attractive man. For sure. Yeah. Alec ends up meeting his now wife in her restaurant. Mm-hmm. So she as a could have been ex is naturally stocking his social media and sees him going back and forth with this funny tweeter.

Yeah. So I used to get pussy a lot of times too. People thought I was funny on Twitter. Mm-hmm. It's weird how that works. Right. women just tend to like funny tweets. She's like, well, if I can't have Alec,

let me have the guy that he's tweeting. And Alec met his wife in my restaurant so I can meet my husband on Alex's timeline. That's really how she said it. She said it. Just want to map out the person we're dealing with because I know everyone's doing pity party for her. She then meets this gentleman

that thinks it's like a catfish situation. Everyone's like, you're ever going to meet him? finally shows up, doesn't really look like the pictures, but he starts throwing bread crazy. Yeah. He starts bragging about offshore accounts. The swindle. Do women not see a red flag when men start showing you their bank accounts?

No. No, they don't. They start thinking about all the Chanel that they can inquire. Why is that not a red flag to somebody? Well, I mean, you think looking at it, like, on one hand, she's like, okay, he's obviously, I don't know what he does, but he's obviously successful. He's making money. She's never met a successful person

And successful people will rather Her husband, she was successful They had the hottest restaurant in New York City Yeah So, she was just a hope is romantic She was stupid She was stupid, she was just a hope was romantic She just wanted to find love

Somebody that loved her This was a guy that she didn't know None of her friends knew He was like a mystery So it was fun for her Stupid love is stupid Love is blind You know I mean

But either way She meets this guy And you know They end up in a relationship none of her friends was really jacking him from the beginning. They was like, all right, who is this dude? And this is the turn where Jussie starts writing. Oh, yeah, yeah.

This got Jussie all over it. So they start a relationship. She finds out that he's in the special forces, and he is in the CIA and is like this government op person that just goes overseas and murders people and it's fine with it. She has to be protected.

That's why she can't even really do shit because now her family's at risk because she's dating this guy that will meet a stranger on the internet and link that's also part of the CIA just adding things up here. He then starts to tell her that he is part, he is eternal.

He does not have an age. He's been alive forever. He can also make her dog, who was her support system after the breakup, her dog eternal, so she'll never have to leave her dog, which listen, you might give me, if you could tell me you could keep basing around forever,

I might hear you out. You'll start listening. I might hear you out a little bit. Like, wait, hold on, tell me. Yeah, tell me more. Then says, I'll keep you alive forever, and you can join the family. This family puts Scientology to shame.

So starts connecting him with all these other numbers and all his fucking CIA people, and he can't talk for certain times. And we get right back down to the Twitter swindler. You got to send me money. Even though I just showed you 17 accounts with $22 million, $40 million, $100,000. And his thing was... I need a quick 10K from you real quick.

And his thing was why you... Money is not even real. Like, who cares about this million dollars? Like, we're going to be happily... We're going to be happily together forever. Like, once you get through this, like, just send me the money. Stop bitching about $14,000. Stop it.

So at some point, she starts feeling... I'm like, okay, where is this money going? He's like, it's on the shelf. She's like, where's the shelf? And he's like, yo, why are you asking these questions? Like, you don't send me this money. They're going to kill me. They're going to, I already told you what this was from beginning.

They're going to gut me like a fish, whatever he was saying. So she, again, hope is romantic. She doesn't want anything to happen to him. No, you're just hopeless. This she gets to a point where she's like, I sent him over $100,000. And so she's at a point when she's like, okay, do I cut him off and say, lo, that's it. I'm not sending them more.

And I don't see where this ends. and take that loss? Or it's like, all right, I don't send him 100,000 already. Like, I might as well go. I might as well go through with this. So she's just at a point where she's like, okay, I'm in too deep at this point. For me to pull out now and never see my 100 grand back and he dies, I don't want that. So let me just continue to go on with this journey.

Don't you work for the government, slaw? Go how that fucking Obama to give you that 100 grand. So ultimately, I didn't finish it, but ultimately the story is he basically, I don't want to spoil it for the, should we spoil it for listeners? I already said spoiler alert a long time. I don't want to spoil it for the listeners. If you think it's only 100K, you are, you are in for quite a surprise. At that point, she had already sent him 100K. Of course she sent him way more than that. And I think she said it within the two years that she sent the money, it was like 1.7 million. It gets higher than that. You know what I mean? So it's like, you know,

he was just basically milking her. But he had did this before with. with another woman that he had a kid with. And then he said, do you know that... Pugied on his child. He told, because he told his girlfriend then, or maybe... Wife. Wife. As his wife.

He said, do you know you can kill a baby just by giving him salt? And nobody will ever know. It won't show up an autopsy. It won't show up in autopsy. Some sick ass shit. You just give a baby salt. So when he told his wife that she looked at him like, what? She said she never left him alone with the kid after that.

And basically, like, he just started, you know, he went on and found... And she just thought, oh, maybe he moved on to another woman and did to her what he did to me, like basically swindled me out of money and all kind of shit. But it's a crazy wild story. It's a good show. I've never had Dick and Lies that amazing. I would like to try it out. What was so ill was when she had pushback on some of the money towards the end, he was like,

I talked with the family. They don't think you're ready for this. See, and that's the shit that a black man, we can't get that off. We were able to stop. You ask a black woman for 4K, she want to know where that shit is doing. She's like, wait, what? $4,000 for what? But see, yeah, you keep saying

with black men you couldn't get off. No, black men could get it off with white women. The black woman with the fucking common sense and don't do that. I told the story of Dayquan on this podcast.

No, because he pretended he wasn't getting no money though. Of course, he was just trying to get peace of mind from a woman that wouldn't leave him alone. That's what I'm saying. That's dip. He was running game just on some like women's shit. But he was pretending.

He wasn't yoking him for 1.7. Can we get Dayquan on the podcast, please? I probably could find him. Please God Dequan the sickest Nica ever though That shit Or the illest

If you are a newer listener To the new Rorymore A mall podcast And you don't have the story Of Dequan Showing up to a candlelight vigil For your death Ill

And then asking people like Yo what happened Bro That is a fucking Netflix Special waiting to happen Somebody has to write that We should shoot it Bro that is insane

We can shoot it At St. Peters In the same dorm room No we definitely need to shoot that bro Do you know how funny that is Like, yeah, why y'all crying? Like, what happened?

And if it's a big-ass picture, you with candles around it, and you're on, you outside with him, you outside, like, yo, why are you crying? You know how, that is insane, bro. I mean, he pretended to be someone else on the phone the same way old boy did when he was, like, pretended to be the CIA handler.

What was his name? On what? The tennis one? No, the other one. The bad-ean-a. Oh, bad vegan? What was his name? Her name was Serma.

He had, like, three different names. Yeah, her name was, Anthony Staggonis. When he was pretending to be Anthony's fucking CIA handler, like Anthony's fighting the infidels right now, he can't be distracted with your needs. And then she kept telling him about her brother, his brother, his brother sees everything.

He knows everything. Like he'll kill me. He was spending a whole lot of bull, but it was working, man. And the fucked up part about it is watch it, bad vegan, if you haven't seen it. But the fucked up part is people know the type of people that they can do that with. They pray on those type of people

that are looking for love, that are hopeless romantics that are like gullible and just vulnerable and you know you can just tell and it's fucked up but it's so sad I mean it makes for great

fucking Netflix love on your children raise your children and don't let your children be fucking stupid because that's where that shit stems from his pops was in on his lives

yeah oh yeah y'all haven't got not him I'm so of the people who are coming up I'm saying no his pops raised him no not him

I'm talking I'm talking about the people who raise children who are stupid enough to believe that they can become a part of rock

they can become a part of fucking Rockefeller if they just keep sending money send $20,000? Yeah are you suggesting

Maas? Never mind. Mall did what? Why you always put me in some bullshit? She put Rockefeller into it. Nobody sent you 20 grand for like a

told Shorty like I let you rap for bigs. No no send me 20K damn all you definitely could have got that shit off

no man I would have been I would have been charging nigg so many, so much money for beats. Oh yeah, I'm gonna bring this to Jay. Oh my God. That's always been a thing.

When I was at Def Jam, there was A&Rs that were literally, I knew how much they was making. That's why I was like, you must have a gambling debt or some shit. Why are you charging people for meetings? One, that's illegal. Two, that'll get you fired. Three, you're making a good amount. Why are you charging these fucking artists for a meeting that you know you're not going to sign?

You're literally going to just fucking write emails while, they're playing you, they're bullshit that you're not going to care for. I could have done a lot of fuck them, but I'm just not that person. You know how much about make off the back end charging people for people to say? That was never in me. Can you play Rory, my music? Sure. And that was never my thing.

People hit me up now asking could they pay to, you know, have their music. I'm like, bro, I would talk about your shit for free like I always do if it's dope. Like I'm not charging you to talk about your shit. That's corny. That's cool. That's why. And this is no slight to cameo. the company.

I understand it and I get people to do it. I'm not, I just feel uncomfortable doing that. Like, I don't know, I just, I'll send a video if you're a supporter

to say happy birthday. I'm not gonna, that's so corny to me. I'm gonna regret you saying that. But I've already told, Camio knows that. I've been on a cause. I just say,

if there's other ways for us to work. I'm just not doing that. It's my birthday. Okay, I'm gonna ruin Benner's email because I've done it mad times. That's better. I've sent thousands of happy birthday videos.

Yeah, I've done that for free. I'm not charging nobody to say happy birthday. birthday. That's other ways to get a bag, bro. Like, that's just, that's crazy as fuck to me. I'm not doing no shit like that. Well, my birthday is coming up, so y'all going to sing me? Happy birthday? No. Not only what I sing. Give me a 10. 10 bucks. All right. Put it on my test. And first of all, hold on. I've been trying to ask Demaris this question. And it's funny she's talking about taking money for music. Your bio says you're the muse for my favorite album.

her Instagram bio says The Muse for your favorite album One, you don't know my favorite album Two, explain this And my favorite album You ain't the muse did You wasn't even born when reasonable doubt came out Yeah, you wasn't born when doggie style came out

Was you? How did you turn in Demaris? I'm turning 28 That's born in 94 No, that you weren't What's 92 or three? 92 92

Damn, D You young You old, bitch, I'm not. How you get offended at me calling you young? A woman supposed to love hearing that. Like, damn, you're young. Like, you got offended.

I am young. There's no pleasers. I am young because my dad keeps on something. Yeah, you're pulling up on 30. He keeps on 30. He keeps reiterating that shit. When you are up on 30. How old is your dad saying you pulling up on 30?

How old is that, digger? My dad is 50. If my mom is 66, my dad is 55. Oh, your dad got a cougar. But her dad is like, he's a Brooklyn 55. He's not a regular 55. Your dad ever did any jail time? No.

Oh, he a real 55, man. See, when you do jail time, I already figure this out. When niggas do jail time, they come home the same age they went in. For sure. They try to make a fall last year. Nigger do 15 years, he's going when he's 25, he come on 40. He's still 25. Prisoners are just like child actors.

Whenever they got famous, they're that age. Absolutely, without a doubt. But if your dad was a free man all his life, a hero. So, Jesse is six days younger. Younger. Yo. He I have old. He was six days ago.

Can y'all grow? The fuck. No, no, Jussie did that hard time. Don't do that. He went in there like a man. He ain't asked for P-C. I didn't hear it.

No, he ain't asked for Pee. He was on a yard. Jesse was on a yard. He was getting down. He was getting down like whack. Juicy went through that. So hopefully you want to go through that, DeMaris. Yo, man, I'm not fucking with y'all.

Can I tell you all? Can I tell you how y'all left me at the fucking hookalounge? No. No. No. You both were supposed to come meet me at the hoop Stahl. All right.

I didn't even know about it. I was supposed to show up to something I don't know about it. So when we left the restaurant and Demaris was saying she was going to go to the hookahs spot, I said, okay, I might go over here to this other spot. I'll hit you if I'm going. Okay. Dee's like, I bet hit me. She hits me.

She's like, yo, I'm at the hookah spot. Just let me know if you're going to go to wherever we was going. I didn't get that text. See? Right. So I'm like, I'm like, but ask Dee what I did. I hit Dee. I said, yo, I'm five minutes away.

D hits me back like 20 minutes later. I don't know what she was doing for those 20 minutes. I fell asleep in the hook alone. She fell asleep in the hook alone. I was outside. They had blankets and warm heaters and shit outside and like a couch. But you shouldn't fall asleep by yourself. Yeah, Dee.

Like that. Like that. Like that's, we don't want you out here doing that. Yeah. Like, don't do that. So then Dee hits me like, yo, you still there? Honestly, God, what happened was a dude walked over. I was in this spot maybe five minutes.

A dude walks over and throws up on everybody. They got to come out with the, uh, it looked like soap detergent. The dudes that mopped the floor. They have like the stuff. It's like no more lying on. I'm all like, yeah, he came through up all over the whole section. He ain't get me, though. Because I was, I was standing on the couch.

Rory. Of course you were. You standing on the couch? I had. Boom, back to Greenhouse days. What you meant? My man. No, no, we was that.

Come on. I was there, too. First of all, put your fist. All right, was you standing on the seat of the couch or the, like the top of the couch. They had, like, they had, like, the piece, the platform on the top of the couch. You dug, you dug your jordons into that couch. Just say. No, man.

I was standing on the top of the couch. You know what I was doing. I like to stand on the top. Staring at people. I see everybody. Exactly. Because you used to sell drugs on a bench. I just want to see everybody.

And that dude walked into the section and the girls that were standing there, the dude that was standing there threw up on everybody feet. And I was like, yes, it's time to go at this point. That's a, that's my kid. That would have been violence. I'm just crying. Throwing up on niggas feet.

And they didn't even know who to do. He was walking by trying to make it to the bathroom, I think. Oh, all right. That's a noble, I guess. He tried. I'm just crying at Tamara sending a, shirt and throw it past that back here. I'm crying at Damaris.

For St. Patrick's Day? That's why I'm drinking. We had a hard day. Today, it's a hard weekend. Didn't say I was a bowler. Okay. But Damaris sending the, yo, my bad, I was sleep texts

from a hookah couch. And I didn't even know she was sleeping until just now. I was knocked the fuck out of. Like, yo, you still there? I said, you're going to get out of here. Some dude just threw up on everybody's feet, man. I'm out. And she was like, oh, yeah, now I'm going to the hotel.

That was it. I didn't leave her anymore. Yeah, they came and woke me up. They came and tapped me. He's like, man, we're closing. At least they let you get some hours in. Yeah. She had a hotel room.

You were next. You went to dinner next door to the other. Go to your fucking, get out of the hookah spot. Go to your room, though. You see she dodged that question, though. What question? I don't dodge shit. What was the question?

You are the muse to my favorite album. Who you be throwing them shots at? That's what I want to know. And I want to know the album. Yeah. Who is the, and who's the, Who are you talking to? There's only one guy you're talking to.

You know his favorite album. She knows his favorite album. Listen. He didn't tell her like, yeah, every time I hear this album, I think about you. Or maybe it was an art.

Oh, maybe it was an artist that she used to. That's what I'm getting at. You used to your favorite album. Maybe it was a producer. You look like you like, you go for the producer. Oh, wait.

I said reasonable doubt and she laughed because she wasn't alive. She might have been amused to reasonable drought. Same city. Oh my fucking God. Your heart. you did that, man.

You know what? It's one of my favorite albums. You know what's so crazy is I have never met this man in my entire fucking life? Mad relationships of people that never met. Mad relationships. Those are the best ones. There's a whole TV show about it. It's on like it's 14th season.

Mad relationships with people I've never met. Are you kidding me? Oh, y'all are crazy. Can I get a bar from the album? What album? The one that you're amusing. The one that you are amusing. Oh, man.

Can't do that. Maybe it's on released. Y'all don't know. How could it be our favorite? It is not out. Oh, y'all is sick. Listen, man. D'Amara's got to be nice to me, man.

Why? And vice versa. Because D'Maris and I have known each other for a very long time. All right. I was about to say. I was about to say, don't. Y'all got your little dirt on each other. Don't do it.

D'all and I have met we have known to other for a very, very long time. On record with each other. Yeah. Like, I knew D'amaris when she, was a Bronx Crip. Yo, why you never tell me you was big C. Listen. Listen.

You's Mrs. C? Yo. First of all, being a Bronx C is just hilarious. Don't, why are you being? How do you make it all into the Bronx? Rory is a liar. Do not pay Rory no attention. You was not a Bronx script?

Rory, I promise you. I ain't meet you with a blue rag. Because I don't want to, if I go back to town and I'm at you, like, nah, I ain't even know, Damaris is working for you. Like, you, like, you know, you know, you know, Damiress is. the big homie. Like if I go up town to hear you was the big homie I'm gonna be mad. I'm gonna be mad. I'm just like you know I'm gonna be mad

that I had to find out from the streets. Don't worry. I met Demaris in Eden Wall projects with a blue rat. He's a liar. Oh my God. He's a liar. Because when I find that picture of Rory doing that Bel Air ad and pouring champagne in his mouth, I'm releasing it to the fucking Reddit streets. I promise you. I promise you. And you know what I'm talking about. did you do?

All right. There's definitely, wait, wait. Well, you was pouring, what? She was still Crip at the time. She was still banging. She was knee deep in the streets.

The magnum bottle of Bel Air. Wait, wait, wait. Who was pouring this in your mouth, though? Nobody was pouring Bel Air in my mouth. He was pointing his own mouth. Oh, you, so, wait, black bottle boys, what you want from me? Yeah.

You can't look at man in his eyes and close yourself to black bottle boys, first of all. called that Rick Ross called us that. You were pouring bell air in your mouth? Like how, though? Were you sipping from the bottle or when you're like waterfall in it? I'm trying to remember the day because I know the day she's talking about and I know the picture I think she's talking about.

I got it somewhere. That's nasty behavior. This is how nasty the day was, though. We had done like this charity flag football game in the heights and Inwood Park. And we made it to the finals And mind you, we had like the fucking monstars. Like it was the all-star team from Nike Football Society.

We was squatted up. Get to the finals. We play just some regular Dominican dudes from uptown, right? All the refs are Dominican. My man's caught a touchdown in the middle of the end zone. They caught him out of bounds.

I say, yo, we have. I know a spot in Brooklyn. We went from the Heights on a Saturday from the heights deep into Brooklyn. So maybe when I walked in there, Bel Air didn't seem so crazy to me. I got to find that picture. Maybe Bel Air wasn't where I was going to stop that day. Listen, man. When I told you, I got my last, the first day I ever took ecstasy.

When I said you, I got my laughs off that day. Because you was there, right? Or I met you after. No, no, no, no. You took the picture. I think I might have took the picture. I watched you take that picture. And I said, I know they not send them their porn belly or in their mouth

in front of a camera. I'm disappointed. You sure I just wasn't holding the bottle? Nah, nah, I'm pretty sure. I'm not having it. That ain't how. Niggas don't just hold bottles, fair. No, you're in your family created it.

I remember I made it a meme. I made it a meme. And remember people were doing this straight out of, it was around the time straight out of it came out of moat underneath the picture. Oh, that was actually a great meme. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm just holding the bottle. Come on.

I know that picture. Oh, so you're not pouring in your mouth? No. Oh, okay. That's different. No, I wasn't driving the boat earlier. They caught you mid pour in your mouth. That's, you know, I said a picture.

But here's the thing. I don't want to sound too cool. I probably did that at some point in that day. As long as they didn't capture it. As long as they didn't capture it. That's all I care about. Don't let that be floated. But I'm about like 90 pounds.

I think I'm wearing a backwards hat. I look nasty. It's not a good photo. Yeah, okay. It's okay. It happens. It happens. I was young.

Yeah, yeah, no, I guess it. Well, we gotta find somebody that knew you back in the day because you ain't always been super cool fucking... Always. Since I came out. Nah, bro. Tell me. Nah.

I see some nasty picks of you. No, everybody got nasty picks. But you never going to catch me like on some real crazy shit. That's because you old as fucking. There wasn't cameras like that. I'm only nine years old. Us youth has a duck and dodge fucking phones that can record everything that's happening. You know, terrifying that is?

Is it youth? No, it's definitely some wild pictures out there at me, for sure. Can never relax with these fucking things around. No, we've had some wild. I'm the only one in this room that never been in the background of a cipher. Yeah. On the hip hopper wars, damn. Fucked that cipher.

Anyway. Hold on it. Are we allowed to joke about stuff without people thinking we're bitter and like all that shit? Man, fuck them. Their money ain't better. But why? I just wish Reddit and the world would just let us joke about shit when we're completely fond about it.

Your man's putting an emoji over your face. Might have been the most IG bitch thing I've ever seen in my life. That was the most bottle girl service post I've ever seen. He put an emoji over your face. You know when chicks do that because they love

the photo, but they don't like the boyfriend anymore. So they put like a... Yeah, like they don't speak to the girl in the picture anymore. I don't know. It's so good. We've been drinking mall. It's not funny tomorrow. Ma' Mar.

Not Mar sober. No, I don't care about that. Y'all know, y'all know me. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit, man. That shit don't. I, okay, because I wanted to laugh about it, I only sent it to DeMaris. But wait. I didn't put it in our chat with three years.

Because I laughed. But I thought about it, right? But I was with Maul when you said that. I said, look, Maugh, and I was like, oh, that's pretty probably. Because I didn't. I didn't know how you were going to react to it. And I was in a very silly and fun mood when I saw it. I thought it's hysterical.

And I was like, I want to joke about it. But I don't. I laughed at that. But I didn't want you to ruin our group chat of jokes because I thought that was the funniest thing. I'm not that. I'm not, listen, man. You know me better than that. I know that.

I'm not mad. I don't care about shit like that. I mean, it was funny. It is what it is. Ma, that vegan food gave me gas too. That we went to eat? You showed it was the vegan food? It was good, but it gave me gas.

Really? My stomach sucked up, yeah. You show. I think it was the cheese. That fake cheese. I don't think. Nah, you know what it probably was. It probably was the, uh, the juice.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. That might have been it. It's bad. Bad vegan right there. That juice put you on the toilet for show. Call back. Call back.

You want to roll today. What cypher would Demaris be in? You know, Stovito. Yeah. It would have to be stovito. I could definitely see her in a Grisselda. For sure. Seifer.

Not the upstate New York, though. Big Crip. Yeah. You gotta rub big Cs on them. Big D with the big Cs. I could say Big D and I say pause. I'm talking about you, Damaris. It's not a pause.

I know, I'm Big D. All right, cool. What would your actual Crip name be, though? You know what her Crip name would be. Baby D. Yeah, that's true. She's baby D. Yeah.

I work so hard for this company. Blum sweat and tears. It's like, I just know if you're going to rep that. Wack going to tell you got to get down. You got to get down. No, you got to get down with whack. Anyways.

New music. Have you guys heard candy drip yet? Of course I did. Lucky day, he delivered. He delivered with this album. Lucky he always delivers. No, but this one, because we were talking about it, how this project was important for his discography. And he did not disappoint at all.

This album is dope. I love it. Been listening to it since it dropped. I think fever is probably my favorite. I like guests. Cherry Forrest, I love. Shout out to Smino, too. Not enough people talk about Smino for me.

You think so? Yeah, like Smyto is one of those those super, super talented artists, man, that I feel like we should be talking about more. Yeah. I mean, I feel like in my world, Smyno's talked about a lot. But in the world, he needs to talk about. But I, no, I agree. You know what I mean?

But yeah, so shout out to Smyno. But yeah, I like guests. Fucking sound. You're just not going to say the child's compassion record? No, that's cool. I heard you. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, I heard you.

That record is dope. Shout out to child. That record is fired. The whole album is fire, man. I'm just trying to look at the deserve is hard. Over, obviously. Yeah, man, this is a really good album. This is a really good album.

Shout out to him having Dirk on the R&B album. That kind of threw me off a little bit. Yeah, it didn't tell me off all the way there. I kind of thought. The album is dope, though. I mean, well, the song with Dirk is dope. This is a really good album, man. Lucky Day did not disappoint with this album.

This is a really, really good project. He sounds great. And I think that I think we can say that he is probably the, best male R&B artist right now. I hope this gets him to that next level. The only reason why I think it wouldn't is because of why I love the album so much because he made a fucking album.

Yeah, yeah. Like he didn't make a let me make 15 joints that will stream well individually. He made a whole project. I've always talked about when I hate when especially R&B singers try to go to prints. I think he tried his prints thing and it worked.

He didn't try to overdo it. in the beginning of the album which record is that? Feels like. Yeah, I really have no gripes about it. Sometimes he went a little too Frank Ocean for me

on certain parts, but I really, really love the album. Yeah, this is a really good project. Been on repeat. Dirk's album, did you listen to it? Speaking of him? No, I didn't get into the Dirk album yet.

But you told me you liked it. I do like it. And I'm just going to sound, I'm not, I always sounds like a cop out, but it's really not in the regard of, I know albums that are for me and albums that are not for me.

Dirk does this style of music better than anybody currently. Do I think with my old ears and the type of stuff I like that it sounds so much like so many other fucking artists that are trying to do this? At that point, I'm always going to sound like

the get off my lawn guy at that point of not understanding it. But Dirk, as far as like content and substance and shit he was talking about, now Dirk got in his fucking bag on his album. I really did like it in that regard. It's just that specific filter of autotune that everyone fucking uses, I can't get past. I know what you mean.

But listening to what he's saying, Dirk is saying is some shit on there. And it's well produced in that regard. I just can't, I don't know that. I don't dislike that filter at all. I just dislike that everyone uses the exact same fucking compression on it every single time. Yeah. I know what you mean. It's just sonically, it all sounds the same.

Yeah. But with the, obviously with the context and the content and the lyrics that Dirk is he's talking on that. He's writing from. He's talking. And he sold out the fucking, what's the Bulls arena? United Center. United Center. Sold out the United Center by himself. That's incredible. I mean, well, he's Chicago's won right now. But either way. That's, that's incredible. Saw an arena by yourself. I don't care who the fuck you are. Shout out to, shout out to Lil Dirk. I got to check that album out. And he tweeted when he sold it out, I'm going to bring a bunch of Chicago artists to give them a shot that I never got. So I think

that's just going to be a night full of, even if you're not, quote, unquote, pop into the rest of the world, if you pop in Chicago, you're going to get on that stage. That's dope. I mean, like, he's, he's the one out of Chicago. He's the one that if, you know, the city's going to come together behind the music and, you know, really do some dope shit. It would be, obviously Kanye, yes, but it would be, you know, as far as the younger guys, it would be dirt.

Davey's dropped the project. How did I get here? Did you check it out yet? I haven't yet. It's a short project, nine tracks, 34 minutes. Busy weekend. Now, you got some choice. Dave got some choice on here.

The joint with him and Benny is hard. Deep in love of music is hard. Who else put some shit out? Joelle and Crooked, dude. Joelle Ortiz, King Crooked, rise and fall of Slaughter House. Album came out. Did you hear it?

Did you check it out? I did. What do you think? I was in the gym going crazy. Yeah? Good gym tracks? Good gym tracks? There were some gym tracks on there.

I did enjoy the project. I think I went in there, which isn't fair to the two of them. Because the rollout was so spicy, I kind of went in there like, oh, Crook and Joelle are about to really go at the other two. And I had to remind myself, oh, the album was done before everything got spicy. And they were probably trying to actually be sort of respectful to what they deem friends. Well, I think Joelle made that statement. He wished he would have known it was going to be received like this. by the other two

his other two groupmates because he said he would have gotten a little more spicy on the album. I think he did allude to something like that. But either way, all that shit aside, the album is good. There's some good tracks on there,

good production, the coasting track. It's one of my favorite joints on there. Backstage. Flood waters. Flood waters, I don't want to lead with like critiques. Yeah, we talked about it.

I just feel like this is not even directly to this album per se, but all like the real rappers that I love, I do want them to do more shit with R&B hooks and everything, but they need to have the right producer and mixer and R&B artists for that, for that matter, in there with them when they go that type of route because so many rappers, like that really rap, their network is people that work on shit that really rap.

So their mixers are great, but their mixers only know how to mix rap vocals. Their producers are great, but a lot of times those producers just know how to do that specific sound and how to mix that specific sound. So when you get floodwaters to me could have been like a classic joint. And I'm not mad at the gentleman that's on the hook. I like the hook and I love his tone, but it's super bare. Like they need to stack his vocals crazy. That should need to be definitely mixed differently. I love floodwaters, but why I don't like it.

why I don't like it is because I feel like it's a miss of a classic. You being a nerd. A super nerd. That's why you don't want. I feel like it was an opportunity to literally make a real classic record and they missed the mark on it. But I love the record if that makes sense. I know I sounded like hate. Trust me.

I know exactly what you mean. I like fuck glasshouse. Hate the hook. But I like the energy of it though. Like getting right to it. Fuck that. Fuck that album. Funny to be.

Of someone just screaming in a booth. Fuck glasshouse. Yeah. That's what I said. I love the energy. I don't really like the hook. but I love the energy of that track. And booths are usually glass.

That's why I just had a picture in my head. I like the fact that they were honest with their fan base. They told their side of the story. So, I mean, that's what hip hop is. That's what the art is. It's about telling your stories and, you know, painting the pictures for people to listen to and to understand. I think they did a real good job executing that. The lyrics are always going to be top tier.

You're talking about croaking Joel Ortiz. That wasn't something that we were worried about. far as lyrics. I think we were more so how is it going to sound sonically, the music, the hooks, things like that. And they did a good job with this project. I wasn't mad at this project at all. Real good rapping. Good hooks, good tracks. I know heat makers did a lot of this. Okay. I actually didn't even look at the credits. I think heat makers did a lot of production on this joint, which Joel has a history with him. Great history. Rest in peace, Fred. Fred Gosson did some joints with the heat makers. Yeah, man.

they were just honest, man, with their fans. A lot of things that they, you know, they put out there was interesting to hear. I didn't know that a lot of those things were going on behind, behind the scenes, behind closed doors. But, you know, I mean, I think we got a lot of answers and a lot of insight on to what the situation really was. Let me, let me pose some questions. May not be my feelings. I do understand that everything got spicy during the rollout and the album was done. But I learned more about the situation, even as someone that at one point was, I wouldn't say on the inside, that's still those four gentlemen's group. I have nothing to do with it. But being around, I was a friend of one of the members. So I obviously get information, obviously just his side. I learned more even from being on the inside from the rollout than I did on the album. And I'm typically one of the people that prefers people to make music about drama rather than.

than IG Live about drama. But with this being, back to the Saba conversation, a concept album to some degree because it is about what's going on. I didn't really get much about the rise and fall that wasn't already in those quick lives. Like I feel like that really could have been a conversation that maybe they just legitimately had in public before this album came out.

I enjoy the music. I just don't know if it was, needed? If the music was needed? It's all in retrospect in hindsight's 2020. I'm not in Juel or Crook's position and would never talk like that.

I know they were how they felt about it and was like, no, I'm gonna rap, I care about the fans, I'm gonna tell my side, fuck that. Hindsight is always 2020. It just feels like the information that was put in here, had they not had the spicy,

crazy rollout shit, did the fans get much out of this? As far as information of why the group isn't the group outside of Crook had a deal on the table and Joe wouldn't call him. That's all I'm saying as far as the content from the

album. Let's get the spicy rollout out of here. Did we learn anything about the rise and fallout house? Yes. I don't think we did. I love what they were saying. And I can relate to it even outside of our situation with that. I can just relate to that type of shit they're talking, but

I don't know if I learned about the rise and fall of slaughterhouse. I mean, I think we learned from the album. We learned Some of it, I don't think it was as complex as maybe we thought as fans and as listeners and supporters of the group. I don't think it was as complex as we thought it was. So maybe that's the way it falls short as far as you saying, we didn't really learn. Like, they basically said what it was.

It was like we were trying to do something. One member was saying they was retired. The other one was saying we're not, when I'm not doing it with just three of us. I think that's basically it. It was just like that. It wasn't no real salacious, deep, like long, drawn out issue. It was like, okay. And I guess my point is with that,

and maybe that could just be how we're conditioned with fucking media and everything being salacious and clickbaity. When I see the rise and fall slaughterhouse, I think it's about to tell me the rise and false slaughterhouse. Now, if they put out this album with a different title and said this exact same thing,

would have equally loved it, and just thought they're just telling the truth of what's going on. Like, if you're going to tell the rise of false slaughterhouse, let's do the rise and false slaughterhouse. Let's not halfway do. You wanted it to be more. This could have been called another album with the exact same content.

Still would have loved it. Still would have championed it. They could have called it. That pig is cooked. You would have been. You would have put an apple in that pig's mouth. Yeah, the roast. Whatever.

You would have been like, all right, cool. But when you name it, rise and fall, you're thinking like, holy shit. No, I want to hear about how this thing started and how it ended. Every detail you could think of. I mean, they gave us that. Joel gave us the bars of how it started when he was on the song and then he said something. Like he gave us. I loved how Joel.

was talking to shit on that, like, fan, I was popping. I didn't need this. I was in rotation. I get that. So we got some. I don't just, I just think it wasn't as juicy of a story as you were hoping it to be. That's what I think it was. But we, I think we got it.

No, but if you look at the juiciness of the rollout with all of them going back and forth, we know there's details. Yeah, but that's just because that's a lot of emotion and back and forth, that type of shit. I don't think when they recorded these songs, I don't think it was that much emotion and that much. Like I think Joel said, he didn't think that they would receive it like that and have this type of negative energy towards it. Either way, you know, I mean, it's a personal situation to those gentlemen. For sure. And, you know, it is what it is.

I think that, you know, this chapter seemingly is over with. They closed it doing that. Everyone's moving forward in their lives doing what they do. And listen, man, keep doing what y'all do, respectively rapping and give the people good music. Royce was on our former podcast Yeah And he said He said something that that threw me off

He was talking about Joelle and Crook And I understood that That didn't throw me off But he said Keep all that negative Joel, Crook, Mall energy away from me That threw me the fuck off

I was like, wait, what did Mall do? You know People sent me to clip when it came out and people had the same questions for me like, you know, they missed what I said and I was like, I was confused. I didn't know what happened.

But I thought long and hard about it. You know, I listened to it. And, you know, I decided I don't want to address it publicly. Okay. Because I feel like if those were the emotions behind something I said, it's a personal relationship there. And I think, well, I hope that Royce knows that I have nothing but love and respect for him,

that I have nothing but love and respect for Joelle. I have nothing but love and respect for Crook. So I would never, like, I don't, my thing is to never sit on my platform and talk negative, negatively about people, whether I know you're not, especially if I know you and I have a personal relationship. I'm not sitting on here talking negatively about you. So I want to address it because I don't want to get into it because I feel like that's a personal conversation that hopefully Royce and I one day have. Yeah. But away from that, I don't, music comes out. You put music

out, things happen, you know, I may not like a record, I may not like a song. That doesn't mean I don't like the artist. That doesn't mean I have a, I feel something I wait toward the artists or whatever. I just think it's a thing right now where, you know, I don't know where emotions are or where true feelings are when it comes to me and certain individuals because of whatever reason. Maybe certain people don't like certain things I say on my platform. or maybe people don't like certain decisions that I've made or, you know, certain energy that I have towards other people. Like, I don't never want the lines to get crossed.

I think that, you know, I'm very clear and things I say. My intentions are never negative. Like I said, people that I don't fuck with, no, I don't fuck with them. That's fair. That they don't have to, that doesn't have to be questioning. If Maul doesn't fuck with you, you know I don't fuck with you. If I have some feelings towards you, I'm not, you know that. I'm not fake.

I'm not phony. And it was just shocking to hear that type of energy directing towards me. Because I'm like, damn, I didn't even say nothing. You know what I mean? All I said was I don't think that they're wrong for moving on. But I would have said the same thing had it been the other way. I would have said the same exact thing. Like, I support those guys in music and whatever they decide to do.

You know what I'm saying? Like people obviously know my feelings towards, you know, one of the gentlemen now. but that doesn't mean that I have any energy towards the rest of those guys. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I was really confused by that. But we just were with Royce in the truck. Yeah. So, you know, again, man, I understand emotions are high right now.

And, you know, but it's respect for Royce for me always. And, you know, it's love for Royce for me always. So, you know, we'll talk one day about it. I hope you guys do. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That was weird to me. But I know what's in the moment.

I understand what's going on right now. And even with Royce, I don't know. He didn't really get into why it is with you. If he explained it, maybe I'd understand it. That's why it threw me off because he said it and then there was no context to it. So I was like, wait, what? What I'd assume is the clip that went up from our episode, but I don't, people take things the wrong way. I agree.

And listen, if Royce explain it, I'm sure. if you guys really talked about it. He'd be like, oh, okay, that's how you took it. My bad, I didn't realize that. Yeah, man, it's just, you know, I understand like I said. That was just like, wait, what? Why is Maul in this mixed with this? You know, it's a, I don't know, man.

I don't know, it's just, I don't know, man. You know, it's just, um, I know emotions are high right now with that whole situation. And, you know, my, but like I said, my stance is very clear. Had it been the other way, it would be nothing but support for me. Had it, you know, I support. Crook and Joelle.

You know, me and Joelle used to spend a lot of time together. Like, we go play ball on the weekends together and shit like that. And, you know, like, so it's personal relationships there with all, you know, Royce opened up his home to me. I've been to his home and around his family and studio and, you know, shit like that. So it's nothing but, you know, I don't hit Crook up as much as I should when I go to L.A., but I just always assume Crook is just, you know, on some, a whole other. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So, but it's a, um, we spent a lot of years around each other, man, you know what I'm saying? And that can't be regardless of how it fell out and how it, you know, how it turned out, that has nothing to do with those other gentlemen, you know what I'm saying? And I don't want that to come across as the narrative. Like, I don't have any negative energy towards any of those gentlemen. You know what I'm saying? Like even homie, I don't wish nothing bad on him.

I don't have no, he did what he did. He said things he said. That's cool. life goes on we all move on we all groom in but you know i just understand the emotions are high right now and it's probably not the best time to talk about it uh because you probably won't get a you know clear level of thinking and some things might be said you know because it's just like i said the the moment is very emotional and i know how personal this is for royce and those other gentlemen so again i'm just talking about the music uh and and showing my support for

for guys that I have years of knowing and years of being around to and who I think are super talented. I just think that, you know, other things got in the way of what the ultimate goal was. And, you know, it's fucked up, but it happens. But to what you're talking about, yeah, I don't know. I didn't, I didn't mean any negative energy. You know, I was just giving my opinion. I don't think that these gentlemen are wrong for trying to move on after they've tried years

of trying to mend something and make something. work. I didn't think they were wrong for that. I still don't think they're wrong for that. And again, you know, it is what it is. But we'll talk about, we'll get more into that on a personal level, me and him one day, we'll talk. And, you know, but I just want to put that out there for the public. I don't have any negative energy towards nobody, especially not motherfuckers that I've been around and spent years with and have opened their homes to me and been nothing but hospitable towards me and things like that. Like, it's nothing but love for me, nothing but respect for me.

But yeah, it is what it is, man. I'm with you. Yeah, I just saw that. Yeah. I know I'm even more on the outside in that regard with how long you've known the other three at a slaughterhouse too. Yeah.

So, yeah. So, you know. Crook and I's only relationship is me walking off drink champs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, and that's another thing. Like, I didn't want to... And Crook was a super gentleman,

super good dude that day, like... And to get into, you know, some of the personal shit, Roy, you and I talked about, you know, we would, we, we, you was going back and forth with me about sitting down with Joelle and Crook. That is very true. Because of how it would come across and how it would look nasty and gross. But these are the things that people don't know and that, you know, we know, because I don't talk about it. But it's like, that's me showing respect for the situation. Yeah.

I spoke to Joelle and I was like, yo, I, you know, I want us, I want us to sit down. And we still may because it's not a negative thing. Like it has nothing to do with shitting on nobody. You know what I'm saying? But it's just like, we know how it could look and how it would come across. And it was kind of like. I would have. I don't know.

I would love to talk to Jewel and Crook or both together any other time. Yeah. Because I had the utmost respect for them and their talent. I would love to have to talk on a podcast. It would just come across a little. It would come across a little nasty. But again, these are the things that, you know, we don't. get, I don't, I'm not looking for credit, so that's not the word I'm looking for. But these are the

things that people don't say, oh, but it can't be a negative thing because they were apprehensive about even sitting down talking about it because they didn't want it to come across in a negative light. Yeah. Because it was personal for me. Like I know these gentlemen on a personal level. And I just know a lot of things that went on and things that are said and now things that I'm seeing and things that are being said towards each other. It's just a very emotional, very nasty, very, you know, just unfortunate energy right now around that whole situation. So we, we stepped back and was like, we want to, but not right now. You know what I'm saying? Because it just, it would just come across nasty. You know what I mean? And I don't, I don't ever want

what we doing to come across nasty. Like, we're not here for that. We're not here for, you know, numbers and we're not here. We're not chasing that. What Rory and I are doing is something totally different. You know what I mean? Like, we're not on, we're not chasing no numbers. We're chasing no moments. We're not chasing like that's not what we're doing. And I'm definitely not going to do that at the expense of gentlemen that I have a real personal history with and really fuck with. Like I'm not doing that at the expense of that. Yeah. I'm with you. You know what I mean? So it is what it is. But shout out to King Crooked. Shout out to Joelle Ortiz. Rise and fall of slaughterhouse on your DSPs right now. Stream that support real MCs. Not the bars.

It was a lot. Yeah. Jesus. Wait, you heard them right? Not the bars. for. How was that? I've been working. Actually, it's pretty good. I've been working.

The butcher coming. Shout out to, shout out to Benny, man. He, he, listen, this is another installment of the Tandotok series that I love.

The drunk, Tyson Ali with him and Conway. Where, before we can get into it, where are we ranking the Tant Talk series? I can't. In mixtape series.

Oh, no, it's up there. I thought you're something like this one. It's up there. Tantah Talk is up there. That's one of the, that's one of the tape series that it's like, I had to go back because Tandotalk 2, I think was the first one I heard.

Yeah, one I had to go back to. This is pretty fucking high in the mixtape series world. No, it is. Tantan Talk is definitely... Of existence. Yeah, no, Tantan Talk is definitely up there when we start talking about the mixtape series. Shout out to Benny, man. I'm just so happy to see Benny, you know, grow as an artist as a businessman, you know, just expand, see the type of people that he's working with.

the type of people that, you know, support him and love him, the type of artist that speak highly of him is just dope to see. Tantan Talk 4, back to 2X, Stovegoy. Listen, man, you niggers better start really, like, rapping for real, because Stovegott is he, this, I don't know if y'all you're paying attention to Stovegarde. KD is a hip-hop head, we know that. But Stovegat is. No, I love that. Katie gave him that look.

Yeah, man. Stovegad is on a. a whole like, you know, he's so unique. And I've been saying he's one of my favorite rappers. Um, but he just puts his foot, every time he's on a feature

and he, I'm talking about he's the standout. Yeah. Like you, it's hard, you cannot ignore this kid. It's his tone. It's his tone. It's his style. Yeah. Where he puts the punch in the punchline at. It's like, it's very like unique and very different. And I just

love to hear it. I'm excited to see his career take off Stove God shout out the Stove God I told I gotta get y'all a stove shout out to

38 special because his feature was crazy on that shit on Uncle Bunn too Stove would like to sit down with y'all too

I saw stove at Conway's album listening Don't call that man stove That is kind of crazy That's like I don't want to say your last name

Yeah I guess God is not his last name Stove God is his name Cooks is his last name That's like I'm gonna call JZ Jay Z I'm just calling Jay Yeah but

so what would you like me Stovito? That works. Okay, so Stovito. Respect my hometown. He didn't know how. Listen, we spoke to him. Well, I spoke to him.

I saw him. I bumped into him at Conway's album listening. And, you know, he thanked me for just, you know, just always showing him love. And I told him, I said, listen, man, whenever you're ready. So he know he can come and we can come and sit down. I would actually like to go upstate

and kick it with him. D'Mera's getting on camera. We going through Q's with Stove God and D'Amaris. That's the piece to me. I don't want to bring stove god in here Let's go up to Q I should put an album out together Dovito

Dovito? Dovito But you guys put the dough like money Because I get it That's where I was that's at with it See we on the same page Tanner Talk 4 Stream it now

What else came out? No Tanner Talk 4 is fire My young boy Chey Kru I didn't even know he put out Pain Pack 5 My homeboy Shout out the aunt He told me he's like

Yo Chey put out another prize When I was in LA, I downloaded it. Pain Pack 5. I'm listening to this shit since I'm using LA. Shout out to Chey Crew. If you haven't heard Payne Pack 5, go stream that. Chey Crew, I'm happy to hear you still doing music, still doing your thing, man. Joyce Rice, who I love to death. She just put out a record with Kate Trinada. She's about to open up for Lucky on his tour. That's right. But she put out a record with Kate Trinada, iced tea that I love. I will say, though. Did we talk about Conway shit since it came out?

Yeah, of course. We did. Okay. We talked about how Joe Scott watched Conway on. Yeah. Smoked him. But we did that with Conway. We didn't put that out.

Oh, well. Okay. It's going out. Oh, no. I mean, I just sort of, I'm just going down to the albums that I've been listening to. So I'm just like. But anyway, shout out to Conway. God don't make mistakes on your DSPs now.

Wayne, Wayne feature on that shit might be featured a year so far. He absolutely killed that tear gas verse. But yeah. I don't know what else came up. Oh, Vado too. Vado shit I'm still I'm still listening to Shout out to Vado L.A. Chronicles

What you mean, what you need, ma. Oh, you're doing your thing, ma. A ass crap is showing out of them jeans, ma. Yeah. Let me, what? You thought he was talking to you? I called Vado right now when I'm calling for you. You looked like you was going that memory lane because you gave me rapping hands with that.

Like, I don't know why Damaris keeps like why you keep looking at me giving me rapping hands, yeah. She was a Crip then. Yeah. Big baby. When that song was out, she was a grip. I was mad young when that. I think I was in high school when that song came out.

You've been cripping since young. You've been banging, yeah, you've been banging hard. Don't put that up on my jacket. And now I can't go to L.A. with y'all. She might be OG right. Now I can't go to L.A. with y'all because Wack 100 is outside. You got to get down with Wack.

You got to get down with Wack. You got to get down with Wack. You got to get down with Wack. You know Big U. Next time you want to go to the hookah spot, get down with Big Wack first. Having a fight to get into the hookahs spot. You got to get down with Big Wack before you go to the hookah spot. You know that.

When I was in L.A., I know people have been harassing her for this album. I love that she's taking a time. Joyce? That Ari. That Ari. Ari. Okay. So you heard the Ari.

Well, we were all in town. You went and snuck and heard the Ari album. I ain't sneak. I purposely went and didn't invite you guys. I respect it. I like that type of shit. I wasn't a sneak in nowhere. I went with the intention by myself.

To listen to the album. I get it. Listen, I understand. I totally get it. Yeah, man. So Ari's coming? I'm being honest and I don't know when it's going to happen. And I don't think she knows yet either, which is perfect.

But I get why it's taking the time. It's taking. Take your time, Ari. That album is different. Like, different, different. Well, Ari, she's not moving. She's moving on her own accord. She ain't moving when somebody tells her to move.

We know that about Ari. Which I love. So, listen, man. March 26, baby. ARI's babies. Period. That's her birthday? Yeah, me and Ari got the same birthday. Oh, did you

Did you share that info at the show in LA? Yes, we did. Okay. We had the same birthday. Okay. So when we go to LA next week, it's up. It's up. You're in marriage me?

Oh, wait. Oh, wow, we will be in there. Oh, no. My actual birthday, no, because Rory has a wedding to go to because he loves his family suddenly. But three days before. Okay. The picture I just posted on my IG story, that's the cousin that's getting married. Oh, congrats.

That's one of my favorite cousins. Congrats to your cousin. What's your cousin's name? Evan. Congrats to Evan on your marriage, man. It's all over. It's all down here from here. I mean, yeah.

It's a celebration of your life. Ending. Yeah. His life is a funeral. It's a funeral for men. It's fucking over. Evan. Evan, you have so much to look forward to.

Like what? You are never going to be able to watch the game in peace no more. Evan. Look at the innocence in his face. It's all gone now. Oh, yeah. He looks so happy. He doesn't look anything like that anymore.

He looks so fulfilled. He has no idea what the world is going to bring to him. Evan, it's fucking over, bro. Evan, do you have open bar at your wedding? Open bar? Asking. Yes. Because Irish, the barrels, they're going to wheel of barrels in the bat.

No, all right. That should go like the red wedding. Evan is half Irish and half Cuban. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. That's a nasty wedding. That's a nasty wedding. It's going to be one of those weddings, for sure.

Irish Cuban wedding? The pork, the whole pig roasted on the spit next to the barrels of fucking pig and alcohol everywhere. And his, his, I want to wear this correctly so it doesn't sound weird because well my cousin Ryan knows what time my cousin Ryan his older brother is a gay event planner

mixed that with an Irish family and a Cuban family and a gay event planner this is gonna be the greatest fucking wedding of all time somebody coming out some smoke it's gonna be smoke

and light everywhere that's gonna be the greatest wedding ever oh yeah that's gonna be great that's why I'm flying back the days know how to present they will put together

the greatest shit ever they put on the show for sure um any more new music, that's it. Nah, but y'all wish us good luck on our Ambie nomination. We are nominated for an Ambie.

Best Entertainment Podcasts. This is not a music podcast, so stop expecting us to talk about music. Best Entertainment podcast. Again, we want to thank the Ambys for nominating us. Thank the entire team. Y'all know who y'all are.

It's too many of y'all the name. Oh, I thought you meant the Ambys team. I was like, you don't even know the Ambys team. I don't know. Who's the Amby team? Who's the Amby team? No, our team. Our team?

Oh, our team? It is not that many of us. Name me. It is. It is. We have a new team. See that? This is how you break the team up.

That energy was crazy. Oh, Demaris, you set the screen and push the nigga into me when I'm trying to come off and bug you. You said just name me. No, it's a lot of other people that make this shit move besides you. You said that. You said it's not that many of us. That's fucked up. No, we said name just me.

It was just you. That's fucked. Shout out to our entire team. They are fucking amazing. That's what I said. I never knew how much I needed Ed. And then she said. She said no, just name me

No real shit I never knew how much I needed Eddn until Eddn left And I'm like, I need Edin Like I really do No, you just said name me You need to say Edith Edith?

Edith was nowhere in it That's fucked up anyway Now go ahead Go edit that shit Yeah, go ahead do it Oh you know Paul stop No no

Come on take that lens off We got nominated for an AnB Best Entertainment Podcast So thank you to the A&Bs Thank you to the entire team Demaris is the team Thank you to Damaris Thank you to DeMaris.

New DeMaris and DeMaris. Yeah. Jesus Christ. But yeah, man, as you know, something cool, something to be proud of, to be nominated in the room with those same creatives and talented people. So, yeah. We'll be in L.A. next week at the Ambie Awards. Now we forever will be referred to as the Ambien-nominated podcasters as.

Yeah, I guess we can put that in our bio now. That's what they do with the Grammings. No matter what you have to be. Yeah. You can not have to put out another hit ever again. You're known as either. Amby nominated. Grammy Award.

winning or Grammy nominated. Exactly. Ooh. And be nominated. I'm about to put that on all of our, like our notes and stuff that Stitcher be using. Yeah, tell them to talk right. Our media kit, definitely and be nominated. Listen, man, I haven't, I have not drank Henny in a really, really, really long time.

Roy, I can't let you drink anything. If we win, you're going to drink some? No, you might see me on that red carpet with the Henny bottle. And if we don't win. Yeah, turn that shit up. Like, yo, I'm going to let you finish. We had the best entertainment podcast. All time.

Of all fucking time. But that would just be weird because then you'd have to be Amber. And I don't know. Yeah. If they tackles, they'd tackles. Like, what the fuck? We could fight. Yeah, that's a fair.

Should I wear a leather shirt? Okay. I mean, I'm with it. It has to be red leather, though. Reds was really nice on Rory. It can be black. Red, certain reds. Because you look like a strawberry.

Put a red leather shirt on. You know what I'm saying? it just, we can be in there. Is there any way I could just bring the henny bottle and put like not henny in it? Just for the label off and just right out. For the aesthetic? You'll put diacocin it. Yeah, because I don't want, I don't want to drink Henny bottle and pour apple juice in it.

No, pour apple juice in it. Just drink Doucet. I can drink Doucet. Yeah. Yeah, I would hope the fuck so. Get a henny bottle or Doucettee bottle. Sorry, sorry, old. Get a duce bottle.

Sorry, old is sick. And then pour apple juice in it. That's just a hard liquor to talk with me. Albuce is not as. Ducey has a deeper, darker, like... Criminal link. Yeah, I heard the bar. Yeah.

Color to it. We got to end this fucking podcast. I don't want to go home. So you're saying Hennessy, or pardon, Ducey is just Hennessy with murder ink in it? Yeah. With the ink. With Kevin Liles in it?

Yeah. With Leo. And Russell Simmons? The blood of Leo's and duce. Is Leo's blood in Duce? You know, listen, man. We are out. Now we start to act crazy.

Let's get the fuck out of here, bro. Let's get the fuck out of here. I'm done with this shit. Listen, I'm going to ask about Dame and your brother today. Oh, no, we can get into that because I didn't speak to Biggs yet. And I got to, we got to laugh about that shit before I talk about it. Dame called him out on IG today on the way he added them. I didn't get a chance to speak to Biggs about it.

But listen, man, I love Dane and I love Jay. I obviously love race. Just so much turmoil around you. I don't, listen, I don't have. Ball might be the problem. Is he the common denominator? Not me? Rockefeller the pod.

Not me, man. I wasn't in that room when that split out. Shorty that said that you weren't her ex on the phone, just a lie with you. Yeah, it is, right? It's you. It's wrong. Like, I'm not going to hold you.

This is why I don't come outside. You know how sick it is that you could stay in your house and create turmoil? That's what I'm saying. I don't even be talking to nobody, bro. Like, what the fuck is going on? Like, anybody want to blame me for shit? Like, listen, my therapist says I'm addicted to chaos. So we know what time is with me.

It's going to be chaos. You can't sleep unless a smoking city. Yeah, like. Nah, man, I'm the opposite, man. I love peace at all times. Yeah, but it be mad chaos around you. They do, right? He's the good job.

That's what I feel for you. Yeah, this shit is crazy, man. But anyway, man, listen, though, this is another episode, another installment, another journey. Another new Rory Mall, a journey. Another capsule. Another installment. Another podcast. Yo, Ma, they been on your ass.

Speaking of capsules, they been on your ass about that merch. You're supposed to be designing the merch. Oh, no. We got some shit coming. You told them that for Valentine's day. Listen, yeah, but I didn't want to, it would have been rushed. It would have been corny. We're not going to do nothing.

We don't want to go fast, Marrish. We want to go right. That's what we're doing here. We want to go right. So when we go, we're going to go. Arbor Day, watch out. Mad trees on the hoodie. Yeah, nigger, we're going right.

Recycable hoodies that you can wear. Yo, if we did Arbor Day but made the trees weed. With and vegan. Roy, we're here. We're in there. You know, listen, man. I'm that nigger. He's just ginger.

Let's get shorty to model it. Let's get the fuck out of here. She could be the model. No, we're not getting Sarma to model anything. No, we're not. Leave Sarma alone, though. Just let us market, man. Does Sarma stay have a restaurant?

No. I'm going to say, can we go? I'm about to say, I'm about to go see Sarma this weekend. Like, if she's over. I googled it already. It's over? I had been to that restaurant. I was on his way.

I know exactly that restaurant. Yeah, I've been there before. Yeah. It was the first time we ever took a meeting with Paloza with an agency I won't name, and they took us there. And I got there and I said, is this only vegan? Mm-hmm. And they were like, yeah, and they were from L.A.

Okay. Makes sense. L.A. Vegans? see it. Makes sense. All right, guys, we're saying good night. I'm not editing this podcast either. I got to go see Jasmine. So we leave everything in. We leave everything. We're going to edit this fucking.

No, you go edit this fucking. Nah, you say, who's popping shit. You're pop a shit. You pussy. We leave it at it. Yo, listen, we're out of here, man. Y'all take care. We talk to y'all soon, man. That's her energy before seeing Jasmine. Yeah, actually bust the windows after your car. Never mind. I'm with it. Listen, listen, it was a nice. You know what? Let's go.

Close it, Dee. Close the show. All these, all these moody. R&B chicks. Jasmine was, yo, I'm busing every fucking window out of

your car, and I'm not scared of lions, tigers and bears. Jazz was dead. Jazz might get down. You're from Philly, right?

What Jasmine Sullivan from? Somewhere in that area, though. DMV, maybe. I always thought she was from Philly for some reason. She gives Philly energy. She does give Philly.

She's born and raised in Philadelphia. I'm sorry, Jasmine. I knew she was from Philly. I know Philly energy when I see it. I know that Philly energy. They'll pray for you and then clap you. I don't know how they get down. I know you signed state property.

With that said, Osceino, that was you, man. Yo, look what you think of the old. That was you. No, Warren, now. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

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