New Rory & MAL - Episode 501 | The Roots Remember

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Rory is back from Roots Picnic, and the crew deep dives into everything that transpired over the weekend. Hov takes shots at everyone who’s been speaking about him on a freestyle, addressing Dra...ke, Nicki, and more. The internet goes crazy over a leaked sextape of 50 Cent’s baby’s mother, Daphne Joy, and Diddy, and all parties involved react. The guys address Tasha K in real time, and make their picks for the NBA Finals between the Knicks and Spurs. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:35 The clock is on. Yeah Yeah Everyone relax Oh okay my bad I'm sorry What's up baby? Do you good?
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm great What's popping with you? No chilling Hmm Hmm Yeah popping your collar Poping my collar on them You know me
Starting point is 00:03:53 I got I have beef with you I have beef with you And I have beef with you So what's up The three of y'all It's just me and Ryan Against y'all at this point
Starting point is 00:04:01 You got beef of me Demaris and Peege Specifically Pinge But you guys did participate participate in it. Why you got to be for peace? I bust my ass, spend my own money, make history, put the first music video on Netflix in the history of Netflix.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I'm basking in my own glory, Pat and myself on the back. I have an acting scene that I wrote, that's scripted, that's part of my life and this and that. I'm people in the comments like, yo, Rora, acting shops is crazy. I'm basking on my way down to Philly of my accomplishments. Yeah. And then you two put out a scripted scene that smokes mine. Just step on all my shit.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Without even trying. The hoops I had to go through to get that done. And you two fucking assholes sit on a couch. And completely get me out the paint. You like that? No, I didn't. I'm telling you, I didn't like it. Are you not listening to me?
Starting point is 00:04:58 I didn't like it. I didn't like that. Yeah, he's supposed to like that. You know what I'm saying? Step your shit up. They might put my name in the title on that. I'm running around Roots Picnic, which we'll get to, and people coming up to me,
Starting point is 00:05:11 and I'm thinking they're about to be like, yo, love the new record, videos crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, Oscar. Yeah, yeah. Everyone running up to me. Yo, yo, fuck with the pod. But, yo, are Demaris and Mauda-Dating?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah, yeah. That's the only thing I was asked at Roots picnic. Damn, man, man. They ain't asked when they can find a single word. Nobody gave a fuck about me. Lucky, Black Odyssey, Aristotle, Tow. Yeah, get all that. Yeah, yeah, no, nobody care about that, right?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Damn. That's fucking hilarious. Yo, Pige, you smoke that clip. Yeah, great. For those that don't know, Peage, there was a voicemail, and we started to get into
Starting point is 00:05:46 like some role play type thing, and Pige cut it up so well that it looked like Moll and Demaris were dating. Yeah. It was, there were people commenting that I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:56 where can I find this show? Where can I find this show? Like, I want to see the rest. I'm like, this is a podcast that is just cut up. Like. Well,
Starting point is 00:06:03 you should have told them that we're back sponsored by Boost. mobile and let me talk to text of data and you can catch a show on Netflix three days a week and we are international now so they can you know tell you people overseas baby neither they can catch us on Netflix as well they can you know what I mean it wasn't just strangers of people that didn't watch the show if you go through the comments it's people that we all know like for real for real no yeah we're like like yo what is going on right now yeah did I miss something that's
Starting point is 00:06:29 that's part of great acting you know and great editing you know what I'm saying heavy out of great editing to y'all personal lives so now I don't even know if dent Manzell's a good actor. Like, man, I want to think about maybe the editor for his movies is just like really dope. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I got to start going back. I got to watch X again. How much of that is in the edit? Honestly, the King Kong scene in training day. That's the cinematography. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that's Denzel is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I got to get more. Even though he improvised that and it wasn't in the script and the most iconic shit ever. Yeah, but we got to start paying his attention to the editor. Yeah, it was a director of photography. Yeah, yeah. That's all I'm saying, man.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Which, though, I mean, when it does come with comedic. the editors do need more credit. Yeah. I hear you. But I feel like some of y'all must have gotten text messages. The fact that it was so prominent to strangers at Roots Picnic that y'all were dating,
Starting point is 00:07:17 I know people hit y'all. So my friends got text and they would call me laughing because like their family members or friends or like hit them up and they were like laughing like, yo look at this. Like people actually like believe this shit. Like with my day in life, no, because that's like everybody knows about the me and mall. running joke but but there was a fan that wrote me and say yo like
Starting point is 00:07:39 no disrespect to your man well he wasn't a fan he was new he found me through I guess that clip and was like no disrespect to your man but you are beautiful and I'm gonna whole time like damn I got a man like what he
Starting point is 00:07:48 what he know niggots on my mall dirty macking a fake relationship is where we're at in 2020s no disrespect them all but you're beautiful get the fuck yeah no disrespect to me
Starting point is 00:07:57 baby why can't be no disrespect to me like see why that's the part that got you mad because you don't never why because niggas don't want to disrespect me you don't never tell bitches no disrespect the marriage.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Bishes don't be like, nobody hit my phone talking about, yo, yo, I'm saying like no disrespect to shoddy, but like, yo, like you faithful up.
Starting point is 00:08:13 That don't happen. They know you're not faithful. Nick of that I'm gonna add. They know you go. Baby D, that's not what it is. They know that we are not together. They know you going,
Starting point is 00:08:23 yo. Baby D. John paid me like a hoe, man. I also want to note that DMing a girl knowing she has a man and saying, no disrespect to your man,
Starting point is 00:08:29 but you're beautiful is disrespectful. Is it? Yes. I mean, a guy. Why? Why, all right. If she has a man,
Starting point is 00:08:36 why do you need to tell her she's beautiful? Yeah, but it's like, I don't know if a guy telling your girl she's beautiful is disrespectful though. Like, I don't know. Now, if you're standing there with her holding her hand and he walk up like, yo, fam, no disrespect, but my, you beautiful.
Starting point is 00:08:50 That's the Instagram version of it, though. That's not. No, it's not. It's not. You're not there. You're not in her DMs. So let me, let's try to get in the mind of that guy, even though none of us would do that.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Let's try. What is his goal there? You think he's so innocent that he just wants to let this woman know that she's beautiful. No, he's trying to test the waters to see if she'll cheat. Yeah, but that's not disrespectful to me. He don't owe no respect to me so he can't disrespect me. Unless I'm standing right there, then that's disrespectful. But in a DM, like, that ain't, that's not disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:09:25 You see me on that page. He's shooting his shot for sure. Yeah, you're right in that. He's shooting his shot. He's not just some gallant scholar on you like, hey, here's so. I just want women to feel beautiful. For sure. You're trying to fuck.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But it's not disrespectful to me because, again, I don't know him. I don't know that he's telling my girl that. So it's like, you know. Would you feel a way of Demaris replied to that DM though as her man? If I was something? Yeah. That's, that's, that's the disrespect. Okay, but hear me out.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So. No, no. No, that's the problem with y'all now. You always want somebody to hear y'all out. God forbid. See yourself out. See yourself out. See yourself out.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It's like you have a podcast. No, listen. So if you, my man, if you're my man, not mall, but you're my actual man at home. And the dude that wrote that was writing that, but he was referencing mall. And I wrote him back like, technically he's disrespecting them. He's not disrespecting you. He don't even know you exist.
Starting point is 00:10:17 He thinks more my man. Are you seeing what I'm saying? Yeah, I guess. Like he think you don't think my man pussy. He think you pussy because he think that you my man. He don't think that. No. He don't think that.
Starting point is 00:10:27 But to the man that wrote me and said, hey, Demaris, I see your feet are out. every week on Netflix, but if you ever wanted to sell feet content, I would be down to buy it. I did screenshot that and send that out like, yo, see, you be sucking my toes for free. We'll get your rent pay, baby. This niggas is willing to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You suck at my toes for free. You're unappreciative. I know the foot fetish. Baby, D, if you put like... 4K on Netflix on your big screen and it's Demaris white toes, I know they were going on. Baby D, just go ahead and put your feet in a bowl of milk,
Starting point is 00:10:59 put the apple jacks around each toes, like hula hoops. Go and get your rent. paid. I'm giving you free game. Put the apple jacks around your toes, baby, Dee. Pour the milk on your feet and tell them you need $1,500 for the video. Okay, DeMaris, I would pay for the BTS version of that, watching you get everything to get. I would love to. So now I'm at $3,000. I'm at $3,000 off one bowl of milk. I'm trying to help you out, baby, me.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I would pay to watch Jamaris in the, put the care. Now, I want to see you grab the bowl, and I want to see you try to put it. Put the apple jacks around each toe. like a toe ring. Okay. And then you got to restart because the milk change color. That's all. And then dip your foot in the milk.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Are you going to be my assistant? Like, will you help me? I'll be a director on set. Okay. I help you out. Get the light and right for you. Let me, DME if you want that content,
Starting point is 00:11:52 if you want to be first in line for that content. Yeah. I already told you if there was anyone on earth that cared to look at my feet and pay for it. There are. They're so cap because there are mad niggies that want to see your feet, but you not really like that.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Wait, man. Yes, you not really like that. Don't disrespect my bro like that. That's my brother right there in case you ever notice. Okay. Men want to see Rory's feet? Yes. Is the avie blank?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Do I know it's a man? Is the Abby blank? I can chunk it up. I might feel comfortable with it because I don't know. Hey. It could be a woman. Hey, if the Abby Blake. Because if a man asks, yo, I'll pay you to see feet.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I'd be like, you get the fuck out my deal. If a woman did, I'd be like, like, All right, man, I could use the walking around money. But if the Abbey's blank, I would trick myself to be like, well, I don't know. Son, you selling feet pick is crazy, dog. But Baby, D, I'm telling you, you should get your shit off. There's money out there waiting on you. So what's the process?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Do I have to ask for, like, the first half deposit and then the back end after I set my toes? Mm-hmm. I might need it all up front. Yeah. I'm a man in my word. I'll send it. A nigga run off from your back in. He got Rory Fipick.
Starting point is 00:13:05 He ran off. from the back. He got my feet for 50% off. Yeah. Crazy. Oh my God, man. Souls and all, yo. Souls and all.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah, call it souls in a hole. Souls are three holes. There you go. But no, I don't think I'm a self-feet picks because if my husband has a foot fetish, then, like, I'm technically, like, giving out, like, his favorite part of my body for, like, I've given that out. Like, I don't do that. He got to fall back.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Come on. Feet. No, but if that's his fetish, I don't want, if that's my husband's fetish, then he should be the only one seeing my feet. Like the Netflix, the only one seeing your feet? The Netflix flash. Maybe the only one touching your feet sucking on your toes, but seeing them? You're talking about like, it's like your balloon not. Like if you go to the beach, you're not going to wear shoes.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah, like seeing your husband should be the only one that sees your feet. Well, I mean, obviously if we're out at the same, but I'm talking about like he should be the only person with a foot fetish that comes across my feet in a fetish like way. Like he should be the only one seeing me step on a banana. I'm using all restraint to make any your man desire jokes right now because I don't want to go down that path but they're teed up right now. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I think you're thinking too much into baby D.
Starting point is 00:14:15 No, maybe I'm not. Maybe that's a conversation I've already had. I'm sure that's a conversation you already had. I know that's a conversation you already had. But it's like he got to chill, son. Tell him to call me. Tell him to call me. I get him wrong.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You just chill, fall back. Oh, you already said no disrespect to you. Let me get that bad. and just, you know what I mean? It's just pictures, homie, that's it. You know what I mean? It's just pictures. Then you say foot fetish, I mean, foot only fans leads to like ass only fans.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Then you say that? Then you say it's a gateway drug. It is a gateway. It starts at the feet. Yeah. Because when you get undressed typically, what you take off first? Your shoes. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Follow me. Follow me down the yellow brick road, baby D. So now you start at the feet, right? And what happens is, homie that look up and be like, y'all don't spend 10 bands on her feet, right? Do I say the year? He just gave you $10,000 for the year. Feetpakes. He come across, he got a raise, he got a bonus for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:15:11 He got an extra $20K to blow. If he'd be like, yo, listen, for Christmas, I ain't going to lie. I want you to put on the Santa hat. And I want you to put on like, you know, the Mrs. Claus thing. But I want you to, I want it to be short. Bend over. Let me see the balloon knot for 20 bands. And mind you, you have a taste of that feet money already.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Your face ain't in it. It's just you bent over. We don't know who balloon knot that is. Everybody got one, right? I don't know, baby. I think for the 20K, your face ain't in it? I think you would entertain it. I'm not going to say you'll do it.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But if you open your phone and see 20K pending and all you got to do is sitting a balloon knot, this is why our CPM is solo. I would, like, I would just ask you all for, like, a raise. He's like I don't, like I'm not, I don't need to spread my asshole and a santa half. I wouldn't, I wouldn't judge you if you spread your butt. He don't even, homie don't even know if that's you. Oh, I would definitely have one of my, I've, I've, I've had home girls send me nudes before to send me.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Okay, so now we on the same page. Now we on the same page. Wait, talk about a friend. What the fuck? Your home girl sent you a nude to send somebody before? We almost got caught, though. Which home girl? How come they don't do that with me a more?
Starting point is 00:16:31 I forgot to, um, send us to Rory a mall. To airbrush. I forgot to airbrush. I forgot to airbrush. I forgot to airbrush. shout her tattoos and he was like I didn't know you had tattoos what you said you got him removed yeah just quick on your feet right good baby dear yeah
Starting point is 00:16:42 I wish I would Matt see that's the thing women can do that man can't you can't do that yo girl this nigga want to see me naked send me some of your news real quick I can't be like oh Rory shorty trying to see the hammer sending a pink dick is crazy that's what I'm saying I can't it just wrote itself that would be the funniest
Starting point is 00:17:04 I got Vidaligo. She don't know. She don't know is what I'm saying. She don't know. She don't know. Hypothetically, this would be the funniest thing. I'm never sending you my dick. But hypothetically, I would just love to see that fucking reaction.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah. She don't know. She don't know where it starts and where it ends at. How she knows? That is a fact. Yeah. She don't know that. I never even consider that people can have Vidaligo on their dicks.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You didn't watch the Michael Jackson trial. That didn't cross my mind. Yeah. Yeah, you're in your skin melanated is that. It's melanated. You get Vidaligo. Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:17:40 That's interesting. Yeah. But just, but just. Baby, do your mind? Why your wheels turn it? What you do? But Vila Lago, even people that have it like super severe. It's, you know, it's Dalmatianish.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah. Just a straight white dick is fucking hilarious. Yeah. See, we can't do that, baby, D. Women, y'all get that shit off. We can't do it. Yo, like, mall's bottom half, just being white is the funny. thing in the world to me.
Starting point is 00:18:05 That shit would be funny as fuck. I would be sad. I would be sad if that was the case. I would be contemplating suicide. Oh damn, I can't see that. What's the corner store cookies? The black and white cookies?
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah. That's just you walk around. No. Look, look, look. I'm a zebra cake. Next guy. Keep going. Like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:18:22 You like. Meanwhile, his dick actually white. Like, you over there all these jokes. Bitch, your dick is actually white. I'm aware of that my dick is white. I don't take offense to that. Yo, I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Ryan for pulling up black and white cookies. Thank you. It's doing a great job over here. Holy shit. How was Ruth, Rory? Where do we want to start? I'll start by saying that the hotel I stayed in was overtaken by the RCA. And I'm sure you guys are wondering who's the RCA. It's the revolutionary communists of America party. I was the only one that wasn't part of the party
Starting point is 00:19:06 that was in the hotel. Oh, I thought you met the record label. For three days straight. Oh, no. I walked out, so RCA shirt, so I was like, damn, RCA back on their street team promo. Like, oh, yeah, this old school shit, I like this. Roots picnic, they try to get their label. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Fight the streams. I don't know. I don't want to give Magamore any ammo. No. But I will say, it's exactly what you guys thought of it. It was a lot of blue hair. It was a lot of blue hair. It was a lot of septum piercings.
Starting point is 00:19:36 A lot of lesbians. I know. Yeah. Exactly what you thought it was. I know. I know. So two days, the elevators are fucking mess. Like, I was like, why did I pick the hotel that has a fucking convention?
Starting point is 00:19:48 They were all staying there and the convention was there. So it was a nightmare just to even leave my room. I was like, is it worth 20 minutes on the elevator? Two days past is cool. It's whatever. But one of these commie bastards floods their bathtub above my room. Oh my God. And floods my entire fucking room.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Are you serious? Oh my God. And it's completely sold out. I got the last room when I booked my root shit. Every hotel is completely fucking booked. So now I just got to sit in the mildew room. I got the windows open. I bought like seven candles.
Starting point is 00:20:24 They got people coming in trying to vacuum the shit up. That ain't gonna work. So I already have like a little disdain for these commies. you know, I started watching Russian footage, Cuba footage. I'm starting to get, I can feel my powers against communists coming back while it's dripping on top of my fucking head. Like, now I know how Kennedy felt. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:45 So it's just last night. I'm going to go meet Sean. He's at a restaurant. And Uber's were tough. So it was like 14 minutes until my Uber came. And they were doing their farewell party in the lobby, like not in the rooms and shit, like in front desk. sitting there waiting and they got an open bar.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I'm like, the least they owe me at this point. I might as well get a drink while I wait for my Uber. Go up to the communist party bar. And they said, sorry, sir, if you don't have a wristband, I have to charge you for this drink. Oh, they bought out the bar. It's communism, all. Yeah, but I'm just saying, give me my fucking free drink. Nah, you don't believe in communism, right?
Starting point is 00:21:27 You just capitalism me. Nah, you believe if I don't have a ban. If I didn't pay for a bar. band, I can't get a drink. You believe in capitalism. They believe in capitalism. They're not your shit. Clearly they do. Clearly. They're not your shit. But other than that, it was a fine experience. Other than that, the Roots Pickman was great, though. It was a very, very good time. Once you got to the grounds. Yes. So how did things go once you got to the ground? Yes. After that entire mess, first day, Saturday, Hove headlining, I was on my way to the festival rounds.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And, you know, I'm usually somebody that wants to get there early and see all the acts. But I looked at my Boost mobile phone and I said, I'm going to get there early just so I can find a spot to watch Hove and I'm going to sit there like I'm camping out in front of the fucking Supreme store. And also shout out to Boost. Boost Mobile was the reason I was even able to have service at the Roots Picnic where everyone else is down. Get to the Juce A riser. I've been through this before. People want to roam around this and that. I'm going to sit my ass right next to this gate for the next five fucking hours and wait for them.
Starting point is 00:22:29 You don't want to lose your spot. Hell no. So where do we want it again? Let's start with Hovi Baby. Okay. What an intro. Did you guys watch the entire thing? I've seen clips, but I know the order.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I didn't see like it straight through, but I know that he came out to Hovey Baby. Okay. So Hovie Baby starts out. Well, no, pause. Wasn't he just standing on stage at first and a lot of people didn't even know it was him? Yeah, because he had his hair.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, he was standing on stage with his hair out and nobody recognized him. Well, it was more of a silhouette, like, Guys, we knew Jay-Z. We knew Jay-Z was coming on stage. No, it's not about that. A lot of people didn't know that was him staying on stage. You can hear people in video screaming,
Starting point is 00:23:12 that's Jay-Z because his hair was out. They didn't expect it. There was a bunch of people standing out of stage. They probably thought it was just- Well, let's backtrack then. There was rumors because next to Brooklyn Bowl or whatever venue that was, Hove did like a rehearsal show on Friday night with the roots.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And he had his hoodie up. There was footage. He had his hoodie up and it was tight. So people were thinking that maybe because he's doing reasonable doubt, blueprint and everything that he was bringing the Caesar back and he didn't want to show it at the rehearsal shit so he kept it like that.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Which I think he still might do for the Yankee Stadium. Yeah, well, I could see that. So yeah, everyone really thought that he had cut his hair. But I mean, the silhouette, I hear you to Marys, but I think that's people just excited at the show. Like everyone knew the roots were on and Hove was coming out with that silhouette. But Hovie Baby, which has one of my favorite J versions of all time,
Starting point is 00:24:00 I thought it was a interesting but appreciated way to come out. And we had talked about last Monday coming off the Drake shit if Hove was going to reply. And we had said, I doubt he's going to give reasonable doubt and blueprint that because he wants to focus all the legacy in that and not make it about something else. So Roots seemed like the most logical place that he was going to do some type of freestyle the way he's done at both B-Sides. I was not expecting it after the second verse of Hovey, baby. I didn't know he was popping the fucking show off that way. Like that stopped the entire. Everyone went fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:24:39 We're at Roots picnic. Hove, back by the roots, were screaming. I didn't know all of us were just about to get dead quiet and get our talking to. It was one of the craziest things to see live, period. I saw B-side freestyle, which I love, the nipsy stuff, this and that. I didn't know I was at the We Declare War concert for real this time. Naz isn't coming out to shake hands.
Starting point is 00:25:03 He saw blood. I saw blood. I was ready. Yo, where old skiing at? Let's get a posse together. Where do you want to start with this freestyle? Because... Start at the top of it.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Okay. I will fast forward. I went to the after party that Jermaine Dupree was throwing. In the first moment I saw him, he said, I need you to FaceTime Mall right now. I said, JD, we're at a, we're at a, we're in a club. We're at a party in a section. Be Cox, Sean, pretty women.
Starting point is 00:25:40 He said, FaceTime Mall. He didn't even say hello, Rory. Based on Mall right now. I give him my phone. Mall answers. JD doesn't say hi to Mall. He starts screaming in a club around women, pick a side of, the family. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And just starts fucking screaming. Terrifying the whole. What side of the family are you picking? And mind you, it was funny in the club, but all of us around in the section were like, what side are you going to pick? You all are crazy, man. You and I have not spoken this weekend. No. I have been at the edge of my seat and we could do a breakdown of this freestyle first. But that's where my head is at at the moment.
Starting point is 00:26:25 no one wins when the family feuds and it's your family you're the feud it depends on who in the family is feuding it depends on who in the family is feuding but I will say this though the funny shit about all of this is Drake is the one that told me
Starting point is 00:26:42 about this this freestyle because I was watching the Spurs game like I wasn't online I wasn't online it was game seven was on you know the Knicks is waiting I'm trying to see who the Knicks gonna get like so I'm not even paying attention to my phone nothing
Starting point is 00:26:56 so I think it was halftime or something so I look at my phone and I see text from from Drake and I'm just reading it and I'm like okay so he did he did which we all said was probably going to happen
Starting point is 00:27:07 won't get into what our conversation was from there he said nigga get your uncle no he didn't say that but um that's so great he's talking to Drake during this I'm next to Biggs on the riser
Starting point is 00:27:19 I chose the side oh no no but I'm with Biggs but the whole thing Biggs is on the riser with us I don't know what's how I don't know what what's happening. So everything that we're talking about, I don't even know what was said. So he was saying, he was, you know, picking out certain things that he said. But the one thing
Starting point is 00:27:33 that Drake said was like, yo, but what's up with the hair? That was with everybody. So now, mind you, I haven't seen a picture. They're going to kill, they're going to kill Drake for that because they, never mind. No, but what's up with their hair is what everybody was saying. Like, everybody was shocked at Jay's. We've never seen Jay with Afro. That is the fact. And the last time we saw him, he had wicks down in the middle of his back. So it was kind of like, like is that a wig? Is he cosplay right now? Is this some NWA?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Is this some, is he on his EZ? In, all right. In, um, in Drake's defense at the show. Not saying that's what Drake said, but that's what the internet was saying like, yo, like nobody understood the hair at first. Diggas got into the lyrics and the bars after they got past the look, the aesthetic of it, because we've never seen Hove like that. At the show, admittedly, everyone around us, whether it was fans or people who were
Starting point is 00:28:25 with on the riser, we're coming up with conspiracies throughout the whole, yo, when's he going to take the wig off and it's going to be the seizure? I said, Jay-Z is not putting an Afro wig on and taking it off. Like, what is, I was like, are y'all retarded? But this is what I'm saying. People were so confused that everybody just started talking about the head, the aesthetic first. But I think that comes from all the rumors the day before where it's like, oh, he's going to have the Caesar. Exactly. Exactly. You know Hove far better than everyone in this room. Do you think Jay-Z, is putting on a wig and taking it off. No, that's just not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:28:59 People are... Like, I could see him coming out to reasonable doubt shit with the hoodie on and taking his hoodie off and it's the Caesar. But Hove is not... How is Hove? Taking a wig of hair. Taking a wig on his Halloween?
Starting point is 00:29:10 I don't want him to cut it. He looks really pretty with the Afro. I like the Afro. It was cute. Yeah. He looks like his daughter. I'm just saying that was the first time we've seen that look on Jay.
Starting point is 00:29:20 We've never seen that before. Because he started when he was growing his hair, it was a small fr... It wasn't that. That was a lot of hair. So when I first saw the video, even I was like, okay, I could see how everybody's a little thrown off by the hair because it was like, oh, shit. But I knew it wasn't a wig.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I'm like, oh, he combed his wicks out. He put that sacred in there, let that, Beyonce let that overnight condition to sit in there. I knew what it was. Well, okay. But then we get into the bars. So now the game is over. Now I can like, all right, let me see what these bars is about. I'm going to start listening.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And we talked about it. And it was pretty much what I thought it would be. be coming off the text conversation. I was like, okay, because Jay sees everything. Like, people think he don't be on social media. He sees everything. He has burners on every social account. So this was him addressing everything because Jay is not doing a bunch of podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:13 So he's not going to sit down and let you ask him about, hey, did you hear about what this person said or that person? So where else would he address it? I mean, Hov has always been famous his whole career even before podcast and radio interviews. Everyone always said, All right, Ho is always just going to address it in the music. I'm going to address it in bars, in which we talked about last week.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Like, he's going to address, you know, certain things. And that he did. And he addressed everything, everything that we probably have heard people say about Jay over the last however many years. Obviously, newer lines from Iceman,
Starting point is 00:30:47 where, you know, Drake saying the jig is up. Well, I mean, let's start at the top. Okay. Because, again, you got to remember, we, oh, baby, we're thinking even off the clips that we saw at Brooklyn Bowl, it went Hovee Baby right into You Don't Know.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I was expecting if you did a freestyle, that shit would be dead in the middle. And he'd stop and then like state property would come out. I didn't know he was popping the show off this way. That's why I was so crazy. I'm not saying me and Hove are on the same wavelength, but I did an interview at Roots Picnic talking about this exact same bar in the first part. Had he's turning a hundred, if she would have transitioned before I cleared my name,
Starting point is 00:31:22 I would have hunted them. somebody asked me the worst thing about podcasting when it comes to rumors. I said, I'm used to it. I don't give a fuck. It's worse when your family asked you about rumors that aren't true. That's where it's more important. So he said that shit, mind you, I didn't fully catch it because of the moment. But when I went back to listen to that, I said, what a perfect way to start this whole shit.
Starting point is 00:31:42 If everyone's saying crazy shit about me, my 100-year-old grandmother's like, wait, what are they saying about my grandson? That shit is hurtful to be like, yo, grandma, I know you don't understand this whole. Yeah. Yeah. Right. None of this shit is true. So I thought that was a brilliant way to start the entire thing. Everyone playing them silly games.
Starting point is 00:32:00 1-800 ambulance chaser. I would have wish one would came. Busby getting bars out. Addressing Buzzbee first to me is the funniest thing in the world. Well, that makes sense to me. Let's get this out the way immediately. Like, we're not even, you know, that was all bullshit. We're not playing those guys.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Obviously, we see what that ended up at. So, yeah, I like that. Let's get right to it. If we're talking about, if we're addressing shit, let's start with the most important thing first. Let's get that out the way. That was bullshit. Stop playing with my name. Like, you know, it was never that.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And obviously, we talked about that. What was that last year, a year before, whenever that whole thing happened. Like, that was absolute bullshit. So, yeah, I understood him getting right to that at the top. Then get into it. But 9-11 is a joke. Public enemy number one. Great flip on that.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But obvious, I do like the tie-in between the 1-800 shit and 9-1-1 was a joke. I think that's a play off that hotline that they had where you could just call in for the Epstein files. Because like, I know it's fun to say, yo, Jay's in the Epstein files. Okay, there was a hotline where literally anyone on Earth could call and that story clearly makes zero sense
Starting point is 00:33:05 with the timeline. No, you're not in the Epstein files. So 9-1-1-1-1 is a joke is a beautiful play on words in that world. Like, it's a joke if you have a hotline for crime. Yeah. And you could just say whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah. The rocks, not crumbling. The leprechauns have magically run out of pranks. Your son is on a federal jail line mumbling something about having too much in his drink. Do you know how dumb that is? We also spoke about that when that happened. Fan, this is why I'm tired of having this Meg and Tory free Tory conversation. I get y'all that you love the murder mystery shit.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You love Netflix. You want to put pieces together. Go listen to the fucking jail call. Are we dumb? Nah, yo. He's admitting the shit. on a fucking jail phone. Nah, according to them, he's apologizing
Starting point is 00:33:57 for fucking Meg, who was Kelsey's friend. He's in jail thinking about yo, I'm sorry, yo, I should have did that. That's what he's apologizing for. Child. Another one fumbled his. Wonder how I get the blame.
Starting point is 00:34:13 More? Niggas teeth is tumbling out their mouth and somehow I'm the one who done it. There's a murder mystery game. You had the cash cow and thunk it. what you will pump test i'm the one who strummed the pain all right i will say again in the moment when we were in the crowd we were still trying to gather what was happening that dame bar i think was the first one the whole crowd fully caught that shit erupted i don't know if you could hear it
Starting point is 00:34:40 in the video everyone went nuts when you said the teeth is falling out like that was nuts Seeing that video, that was the first time I could remember, like in a long time, seeing Jay rap and exude that much emotion. I was thinking that's him. He looked like tired and irritated. Yeah, it was like a different energy coming from Jay. And we could get to the rest of the, we ain't got to go through every line. But it was at that point, when I saw that, I was like, okay, he's been waiting to say this for a minute. Obviously, a lot of these things are a few years old now, and he's been wanting to get this off.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But that's the first time I've seen Jay probably rap and exude a different type of emotion as far as like, you know, watch your fucking mouth. Stop talking crazy about me. Watch who you're talking to. That emotion was very clear and apparent coming off of him. Throughout all of this, though, the entire, you know, all of it is valid. And I understand why he, you know, he said what he said in this freestyle. And again, we all, we talked about it probably, you know, him addressing it. And he did.
Starting point is 00:35:57 The one thing that he said in this, though, that kind of threw me off. And I kind of was like, damn, that's not like Jay, as far as I know, is the unline. Like him bringing that up and talking about that so far removed from that. And obviously he's a totally different person now. Going back to, and I understand why, because it's kind of like, that's a part. of my life. I can't delete that. But for him to talk about it now, okay, he has every right to though. I'm not saying it doesn't, but it just kind of like, I was like, oh, like I wasn't expecting you to bring that up. Like, okay, you're going, now it's like, we're going through
Starting point is 00:36:33 all of it. Because I got to remind you, niggas, you niggas is talking crazy about my kids. Yeah, I'm really like that. I don't know. And I understand it. I just wasn't expecting it. Like, that was one bar that kind of, we know about all the shit, recent shit. It's like, okay, But the un-shed is relatively recent. And yes, in the moment, cool. But after looking at everyone that he shot at, it does not shock me at all that he was going to address the un-shit. Because again, to your point, and this is what Sean and I were talking yesterday,
Starting point is 00:37:00 Hove usually when it comes to disses is one of the smoothest people. That's what he's known for. Slick shit, like he's the cooler person. I've never seen him actually upset. He was upset through that whole fucking thing. So with the un thing, I think Un was okay to talk about it on Vlad. because in the intro of 444, he brings Un up.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I stabbed in the back. Imagine what a knife hurt. I stabbed Un over some records. My excuse is he's playing too reckless. So when Un went on Vlad recently and went through the whole thing, I was like, well, Un has a right to speak about this now because Jay just brought it up.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah. But if you watched the whole interview, which I did, Un is calling him a straight up liar with the entire thing and is shitting on Jay throughout the whole interview. So this isn't some old shit Unbeen on the internet talking about Jay And obviously none of us were there
Starting point is 00:37:53 So I don't know what's true and what's not But if you're calling me a liar Especially with that type of shit Yeah you're gonna get a shot If I'm shooting at everybody that said something The last five years I understand it But again the Jay that I know
Starting point is 00:38:07 The cool calm collective But that's not this is somebody that's For him to even I get that But even for him to For you know underbeat anywhere saying Whatever he's saying you lying.
Starting point is 00:38:17 The Jay, I know, it would be like, yeah, you're right, I'm lying. I'm not going to try to validate that. Yeah, nigga, I stabbed you. It's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:38:24 unsaid. I'm lying. But he did on the 44- intro. Kill Jay Z. I get that. But if un is somewhere saying,
Starting point is 00:38:28 not he's lying, all right, yeah, I'm lying. I'm not going to go on the root stage and be like, I get under skin, ass gun.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I'm going to leave it alone. Jay's whole shit is he's one of the rappers that never lied or even exaggerated when it comes to that that type of stuff. That's his. brand and as a fan for the most part
Starting point is 00:38:49 I believe it I haven't really seen even his enemies go on YouTube that did that stuff with him like yeah no Jay did all that so if that's your brand and then Un gets on Vlad and I can be objective Vlad is one of the biggest platforms by far on YouTube especially in hip hop and you get on there and say I'm a liar based off one of my most vulnerable intros
Starting point is 00:39:11 yeah man fuck you I get it that's just one ball I was not expecting because he I mean he started with the slick shit on Deer Summer. Everything else? Just trying to advance my quotes, but... Cool, I get it. That boy, I was like, oh, okay, he's going all the way there. Like, all right, cool. Like, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:39:28 But I mean, again, I'm not... Because I see the internet and all the reactors and, you know, everybody reacting to this shit. And this is what's supposed to happen. This is rap. And we spoke about this. This is what rap is. Like, if I'm going through something dealing with it, I'm going to address it through the bars.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I'm going to give you all... I'm going to give it to you on the music. I'm going to tell y'all how I feel about whatever's being said about me in the rap. So to me, this is spot on. This is who Jay-Z is. Like, and he was on stage at Roots picnic. He even said it. He misses that feeling.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He missed that. Like, he was in Jay-Z form. Like, and this is who Jay-Z is. He's going to tell you exactly how he's feeling. Well, let me ask you more. I understand the strum with the pain, flak, planes, killing them softly. I get the entendras in there. Who do you think he's speaking?
Starting point is 00:40:18 That's something I don't even have a theory. Of course I get the entendras with Lauren Hill, kill them softly, the sample, like all that. Is this in regards, like, is there a deeper part of who this is about? This is one I'm stuck. I saw the internet explaining to non-rap fans, all the entendres.
Starting point is 00:40:37 But I don't know who it's about. I mean, you had the cash cow and thunk it. I mean, a lot of that is probably still, you know, It's probably tied to name. I was about to say, I would think that whole, all of that is still tied to dame. Yeah. That hill you can die on, obviously, you know, this is the whole Lauren Hill. Yeah, no, I get all the time.
Starting point is 00:40:57 There's very much flack that comes from those pains. Yeah. I'm killing them softly. It's understood. Don't need to be explained. I think that's, yeah, I think all of that is still related to you. I mean, a lot of that is probably dame coded, you know. And I think the- You want it one way is the other.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I think the wire you want it one way is the other. Marlowe shit. That makes a lot of sense. And again, no disrespect to dame. I'm not saying anything about Dane, but I can see you want it to be one way being directed 100% at Dane. I will say there's only two people in the entire world
Starting point is 00:41:30 that can relate to one of these bars. One is JZ, obviously, because he wrote it and wrapped it, and the other person is me. Cancel the brunches. I remember that hunger pain. I did think about you. I almost fell out to, oh, my God. I did think about you.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Did I write that? I did think about you when I heard it. I'm not going to lie. Did I feel it? Well, listen, I love Hove to death. And I think for rap purposes of entertainment, I loved all of this. That shit hit me in the chest harder than any bar that's ever happened in life. Yo, please.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Please cancel the brunches. I'm so sick of this hunger pain. Yo. That brings up way too many. Oh, my God. Way too many memories. I was waiting for Hove to look at me when he said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:46:58 even say my name. Obvious, great wordplay, but obviously, Entandra B, Destiny Shalda, say my name, Marlowe, Brits is going up. I don't think that was directed at one particular person. I think he's suing Busby. Like, Jay is suing anyone that said something about him. So as much as people are like, oh, does that have to do with Drake
Starting point is 00:47:17 and B's on the table and this and that? No, I don't think Jay is suing Drake. But I do know Jay is suing Busby and every person that puts a lawsuit against, which I could see adding up to a ability. if he keeps suing everyone that's suing him. What I mean, that's going to cost you beating him, say my name B, Beyonce, saying the name, Bestie's child. I'm saying the real meaning behind it.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It's going to cost you. I'm not letting this shit go anymore. And then it malls with the wires. Yeah, it's supposed to your body. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know. Price of the brick going up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 It's, you know, it's a lot of that in there, man. And I get it. And I'm just, you know, just seeing everybody react to the bars and dissect the bars is just, it's interesting, man. You never found it funny that. the co-op in the wire met at a hotel. Yeah, that's wild. There's two things.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And the Sopranos, when they all meet and the FBI is the waiters. I'm like, wait, so we're inducting a new boss in a hotel with strangers bringing us food. Yeah. But then we get right to the Kanye shit. You ever heard of Wondokin, my children and some of them, Ball?
Starting point is 00:48:22 A little of them, have you, niggas, no shame. Y'all try to get under skin. I really get under skin to ask unhow I'm playing. That ball's crazy. I still can't believe Jay said that, but. Y'all thugs with the thumbs again. Everybody thinks they're the one's insane. Again, which I think is a great play of talking about on KillJZ.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And he said on Kill JZ about Kanye. If you're the only one crazy, you're the one that's insane. Going back to that, you're no manic. Watch how sane he acted in my present. Maniac. Fair. Mm-hmm. I love the shrink on Tondra there, too.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I need a new therapist. This shit's not working. I'm truly on the brink. You better not encourage him. Y'all don't want me to think these thoughts that I think. Stopped. I thought he went light on Kanye. He threatened to stab him.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I don't know about going light, but I hear you. He threatened to stab him, call him pussy. That nigga not really, he ain't really crazy. Like y'all say, he's pussy. When he get around me, he shrink and I'll stab him. I think it was like. Pretty much, right? Yeah, like I feel like.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Get that out the way. I'll stab you, Kanye. Stop playing with it. Call my kids that. But. Yeah, when I say light, I think as far as I thought it would be more hove rapping. No, that was just a straight up like, Kanye, I'm going to, I'll stab you. Like, stop.
Starting point is 00:49:41 But I do think it is also a funny callback. So remember when Kanye was going on one of those rants? I forgot. Maybe it was a St. Pablo tour. And he was like, Jay-Z, don't send your goons to kill me. No, I'll stab you. Yeah. And you don't need no goons.
Starting point is 00:49:56 The nut-ass niggins still stuttering at that chatty. obviously talking about Oskino, correct? Yes. That line is definitely about Oskino. That chatty patty down on his luck again. Is that a, is it back to Dame or is he talking about all that different? That's Dame. I saw Osceno did a reply right away.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And he was kind of alluding that that chatty patty line was also about him. But I think it could be about both. And I mean, Oskino, I watch the Cook Your Toast thing. I watch Oskino's content. I think this was just a fair, quick response. Like, Oskino did a 20-minute reply, and I was like, you haven't said nothing like super crazy about Jay the way Kanye has with his tweets. You got like five words. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Because Oskino didn't say anything nuts. He just was shitting on Jay on his YouTube page. Yeah, but that, but again, that's the thing about this, though. This, this, this freestyle has given life to so many content creators, so many platforms. It's about to go on another world tour. What will I say? On the drive up here, I said. Like, this is giving life.
Starting point is 00:51:04 They need to thank that stimulus package. Because now you can monetize disrespect. Right? Somebody say your name disrespectfully. I can go on a platform, do an interview. Da-da-da-da-da-da. That's just the error we end. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You know what I'm saying? But this Jay-Z freestyle has given so much energy to so many platforms for the next. However, and like I said, I think for the Yankee Stadium shows, I think he's going to give us this over a beat. I think this is a song. I think this is bars from a song. Okay. This is a verse.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Really? I never even thought it. 100%. I think this is bars that will be on a song. I mean, we've seen a lot of whole freestyles and end up being songs. In New York at Yankee Stadium. Okay. I think there's another verse to this.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Interesting. Hmm. Yeah. That never even, that never even, that never even, that never even entered my brain. Yeah. God, I hope you're right. This is, this is. Who do you think produced the beat?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Who produced, um. I think Justin Hove are back. Yeah, also. Who produced, um, O.C. We're running this rap. Shit. Oh, Cony.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Kanye did that? Well, he won't be doing the next one. He won't be doing the next one. But I can see, you know, I could see, uh, just. Yeah. A little bird he told me that he may have a bink. pack you know what I'm saying that he had for a while that he you know he'd been doing his rain man shit too and again as a fan I know just and binkwell both of my guys I would love to see
Starting point is 00:52:42 the reconciliation with not only bink and just but with bink and hove as well if he got a bink pack listen though I'm not I'm not showing up to this but I'm just going to listen to that shit for a week straight I'm not coming back no I know for a fact he got a big pack I don't know if he He does have some bars that he probably has in his head to a bank pack. But yeah, he's had he's listened to some music. Jay is always writing. Like he may not be recording, but he's always, he always is going through his rain man shit and just listening to music and writing his head.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And I think this is some of the bars. But I think he is probably going to lay this down. If he hasn't laid this already, I think he's going to lay this down. I think he performs it at Yankee Stadium. And I think there's another, there's more to it. I think this was just a little sample size of, you know, what Jay has been writing. And, you know, his response to a lot of shit. I think this is dope, man.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And, you know, it is what it is. But, you know, I know everybody will talk about, you know, the whole Drake, whole. We'll get to that. I want to stay with your theory right now. That's amazing. With that theory, I'm going to start dreaming. Does he open. extra innings with that song?
Starting point is 00:53:58 And do we get new J music performed at extra innings? Because again, I think he's going to dedicate blueprint and reasonable doubt to the legacy of that with no distractions to anything going on right now. Extra innings, though? If he does. Is that his real I declare war concert? If he does. Third night in Yankee Stadium and you declare war with everyone?
Starting point is 00:54:16 That's a move. But he don't do that. He don't debut music at the show. He's done it maybe once or twice where he'll do a song that we never heard. If he does, the song will be out before the show. The song will be out before the show if he's performing it. But Jay isn't a point now where he can do whatever he went. Before that probably didn't make sense just to how the industry was set up
Starting point is 00:54:37 and you want to monetize and make sure the record is pushed. Jay can do whatever the fuck he wants at this point. I could see him at this point in his career doing some fly shit like that of doing like performing three records. No, but I... And then that night they're on DSPs. It's just different to perform a song at a show that nobody ever heard.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It's just, it's a risk. But it, okay, but it's Jay-Z. I agree. If average art is doing that, it's tough. Why you think he did this Acapella? Because that's what he did at the B-side shows when he has to address things. This is a move he's done for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So that people can hear what he's going to understand what he's saying, as opposed to if I'm, it's a song. And I'm saying if he performs it and it's streamed at extra innings and he puts it up on DSPs that night or right after he performs it, everyone's just going to go run and listen. the song. Yeah, but you, because he's already, he's been, he's been teasing these releases with changing his name back to the original JZ for copyright shit. They've been putting out the records that he owns with his masters. I don't think that's just to put them out because
Starting point is 00:55:40 he owns it. I think he's teasing, releasing music. And I could see him, you're talking about releasing music. I'm not even, that's not even my, I'm talking about him putting on the show. Like, I don't think that he's going to debut a new song at a show. because people are just going to be standing and they're kind of like the same way we resolve right there but they don't know the world they're not going to be
Starting point is 00:56:00 I get what Mala's saying yeah it's like he don't want to you know what I'm saying he wants to put on a show where it's like it's extra things we're talking about it's a show to stop to perform a brand new song everyone stopped what they do
Starting point is 00:56:12 yeah it's not about people not stopping what you're doing the energy is not the same because you can't hear that's the reason why he does why Mala's saying he does those acapella because everybody is now
Starting point is 00:56:21 tuned in and listening to what you're saying If it's a song, you don't hear the lyrics the same way. Okay, all right. Let me lay my point a little bit better. It's the same way we, it was tough for us to hear some of this at the show and try and catch it in real time. The internet went fucking nuts in real time and was breaking the shit down two minutes after it happened. The same way we talked about where Super Bowl performances aren't even for the people that are in the crowd.
Starting point is 00:56:47 We watched Beyonce do the Christmas shit and we saw all the shit. Everyone's focused on the camera that people are watching at home. If you watch the Kendrick performance at the Super Bowl, we got a better view at home. I think if you're watching at home, you're going to see that and everyone's going to break it down immediately. And then you're going to go to DSPs and listen to the song. You talk about everyone in the crowd. That's the least important thing at this point when it comes to performances. The Super Bowl halftime show is not even for the people that are there.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Not to Jay. Are you crazy? Kendrick didn't even address the fucking bad bunny. It's the camera. Those are people at home. They're singing songs that everybody already knows. You're comparing a high-time Super Bowl show to Jay's doing Yankee Stadium. The people are at Yankee Stadium see Jay's perform.
Starting point is 00:57:29 The people ain't at the Super Bowl to see Kendrick perform, bro. For two minutes, if Jay does a new song, that's breaking the fucking internet. I don't know what you're talking about. Anything that Jay does, if we haven't heard, is going to break the internet. I'm just saying I don't think he's going to perform a song. I was at the show. And the only thing people talked about at home, which is more people than they were at Roots Picnic, was this freestyle and not any of the hit records he did after that.
Starting point is 00:57:50 It's for everyone at home. It's not for the crowd anymore. But that's no, but that's not why Jay's doing it. Just because everyone at home is experiencing it, that's not why Jay is doing it. Jay cares about his show. That's pure. He cares about his show and the energy at his show.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Then releasing new bars and new music, clearly is something he wants to do. Yeah, but it's okay that we all disagree with you that he's going to perform a new song before it's release. I said it was hope. I said I could dream. Yeah, for sure. But I just don't think it's crazy for Jay to perform a new song
Starting point is 00:58:17 at his third night at Yankee's... No, it's not crazy. I just don't know if he'll do it. Like, I just, And to Sean saying he did takeover at Summer Jam, but that was during the beef. That's different. You said. No, I know that.
Starting point is 00:58:29 But it was like the beef between him and Niles was already on. And we're saying this new music, you're saying if this goes on a beat, if he does another record like on some I declare war shit, we're all going to be tuned into, yo, what the fuck did he say? But who was he declaring war too? No, I was using that example as the show that he did, I declare war. No, I don't, I think this is replying to everyone that's been talking about him that he was talking about. Yeah, that's what it. And I love this. But this leaves room for, and I mean, we don't need to break down the, the Nikki lines. I thought it was hilarious that he mimicked
Starting point is 00:59:00 her trying to do the Meg the Stallion disc. I thought that was genius. Because in real time, I was like, did Jay just stumble? I've never heard that before. And then I got on the internet and saw everyone breaking it down. This has left room. Forget Oskino and Dane, who could monetize that. Are we going to get a response from one Nikki? And two, I don't really want the Nikki response. Wait, you're doing my music? Yeah. No, Nicky's going to go on the internet and tweet her ass off.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah, I don't think it's going to be a response to music. I don't think Nikki's going to rap. Like, I don't, I don't see that. She's a rapper. She can rap. She writes. So that is an option. I just don't think that that's going to be the way she responds.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Nikki is a legend. You could argue that she is the greatest female rapper of all time. She is. Then why are we moving the goalposts? A rapper wrapped words about. about you when you was the one that's been on Twitter running your mouth about insane things, talking about kids, talk about lies, talk about everything. Why we're moving the goalposts where Nikki Minaj does not need to reply.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Don't say, you can't say that she's going to punching down. The greatest rapper of all time dished you with rhymes. You're a legendary rapper. We're moving the goalposts for Nikki now? No, no, no. She has to reply with a goal post. Nobody's moving on the goalpost, but she never, anything that she said about Jay wasn't in raps. Okay, but a rapper just wrapped.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I understand that, but it's not like she rapped about Jay in a verse. And then Jay responded in a verse. Like she was on whatever platform, whether it be X or she did a queen radio, wherever she talked about Jay. It wasn't in music. I don't see her responding to Jay now in music. I just don't see that. Meek tweeted and we got two records.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Let's not say that Twitter is now where we draw the line where people don't have to reply in raps. No, I'm not saying she has to reply. I'm saying I'm not saying she's going to reply. I just don't think it will be in a rap. But she's going to address. We got to hold Nikki to the same standard as any breath. The same way people say, yo, don't call her female rapper. I agree with them.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Nikki is a legend on her own. Don't even put female in front of that. But that also means she's held to the same standards that if a rapper that's your peer wraps about you after you've been talking shit, you have to rap. I tell you every single time. you say that that I don't agree with that every single time you say it you can rap at Megan
Starting point is 01:01:26 and not rap at Hove when Hove says that shit about your husband and about your kids responding to her I know so she's supposed to just tuck now if this was like if Holt said this is like any style and just shut the fuck up no I'm not saying that I'm she's going to respond I just don't think she's going to lay down versus and she doesn't then then I then I think I think that's pussy if a rapper wraps at you and you don't wrap back. Okay. So as we going to these next bars, you're about to sit here and look me in my beautiful face and tell me
Starting point is 01:01:58 that Drake has to respond to these bars to. Yeah. Without question. I think they were cool shot. He's responding to Drake's bar. I know. So why does Drake got to respond now? Because the floodgates are open. No, Roy. Oh, my God. No. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Rory. Oh, Rory. You got the jig is up one. You got the Island Oppenbar. Drake, like we said on this podcast, I said, they weren't really shots. I think I compared it to throwing an elbow
Starting point is 01:02:31 when you're in the paint to grab a rebound. It's just saying I'm here. Yeah. And Jay did the exact same thing. But let's not act like this hasn't been going on forever. And it also wasn't going on forever with Drake and Kendrick. Eventually, these things, the chickens come home to roost.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Kendrick and Drake were throwing little shots at each other for years and then it finally happened. They're also peers. To me, this is about to be the tipping point. Their peers. They're peers. You don't think Drake and Overs' peers? He clearly said that When I think of peers, I think of, I don't think of in levels of success. I think of time more. Like, they're peers. I think, I think Hove is the greatest rapper of all time, but I
Starting point is 01:03:10 can confidently as a fan say that I think Hove, Nikki, Kendrick, and Drake are all peers. They are. We have different ideas. I think Jay is the great. I think Jay is above them as as far as my personal opinion of a rap, but they are peers as far as longevity, success, accomplishments, catalog, they're all there. For sure. I'll say they are peers.
Starting point is 01:03:32 They're on the same level. I just when I think peers, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. When I think peers, I think of like we came up together. We were doing this at the same time. Like, and had, we had similar, maybe not the same, but similar levels of success. And we started in around the same time.
Starting point is 01:03:50 that's when I think of peers. You can't, you can't become a rapper. You're going straight to start it. Because I say their peers because they work together. I mean, I would say more on the accomplishment side of getting to that top tier, that top tier rap shit, I think is still a peer. You're saying peer by its actual definition, which I get. Because I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 01:04:11 But if you, yeah, of course. But that's what I'm just saying might like when I think of the definition. Like you can't look up, you can't as you're becoming a rapper look up to me and then I consider you a peer. Even if you become more successful than me, I can't consider you a peer. You grew up looking at me already doing the thing that you want to do and I have been doing it for a very long time.
Starting point is 01:04:29 So yeah, you may eventually get to me or get past me, but I'm not your peer. I'm your big homie and that's okay. Sometimes you get more successful than your big homie. And that's not disrespectful. That's not me being disrespectful to Drake. It's literally just a time thing.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I think that that's just a time thing. I feel like when it comes to success, It's different that way, even in business. Mark Zuckerberg was young, but when he hit a billy, I guarantee you people that were older than him that he probably looked up to in business, now sought his advice. Now we're peers. Yeah, we're peers now.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Okay. So, Beyonce and Michael Jackson are peers? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Fuck yeah. But again, Mike is here. It's the same thing I'm saying with Hove and then Mike is here.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'm not saying Beyonce is better than Mike. Mike would have definitely. Mike and Beyonce are peers. Mike would have definitely did a song with Beyonce by me. It's not about. Prince said, Beyonce, you're not my peer until you play piano and she learned piano the next day. Listen, I think at peers like, especially in this game, music, like when you agree to do a song with an artist, I think that you're acknowledging that that's one of your peers now. Especially, Jay.
Starting point is 01:05:35 He's not rhyming with you if he doesn't look at you, like, one, you're even talented enough for me to even be in a song with or like, you're my peer. Like we're, you know what I'm saying? Like we're kind of like in this thing, doing this thing, making music, you're dope. I am who I am. that's him acknowledging like yo you're dope i fuck with you i think he gives people looks early that he finds that are tall i mean like outside of cole was signed to him like i was going to say well he he had missed a nice watch he didn't think cole was here with frank and tyler i don't think he looked at them as peers at that time but he said i see two really creative kids that i think have it
Starting point is 01:06:08 yeah i mean it's it's yes but i think drake it's not black and white kendrick nicky if you said yeah i'm i'm yeah like well we all have different definitions that's their peers But I mean, I think this warrants a reply. This isn't me being a messy fan that just wants to see that happen. Nah, you want to see the shit. It's okay. It's okay to be messy sometimes. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Say it. Let it off your chest, Roar. You want to see Drake and Jayzie go at it. I don't. I used to. What? What you mean? Used to.
Starting point is 01:06:43 You want to see it. Ain't no used to. Don't give me that bullshit. You want to see it happen. I agree. I agreed with Hove when he was talking to Frazier about and which is funny that everyone rightfully so is calling him a hypocrite. That rat beef is bad for the culture. And again, I don't think this is beef. I think this is him just replying to everyone that's been talking about him. Yes, not being. But I don't know. Like where shit is at now and even where they've taken this shit online with Epstein and this and that, like as a fan before the Kendrick and Drake back. of course I would love to see Hov and Drake go at it. Why before the Kendrick and Drake go out?
Starting point is 01:07:23 Because I think it shifted, it took the fun out of everything. Like, it's weird. We spoke about that. Your man made it weird with that weird shit he was talking about. Nica JZ ain't talking about the weird shit. Jay going to keep it wraps.
Starting point is 01:07:34 I think it would have gotten weird even if he never said that. No, I think it would have gotten weird. Before that record came out, shit was cool. I'm not talking. I'm not talking, we're not speaking to the actual people involved in the battle. We're speaking to everything around it. and the fans and the stands
Starting point is 01:07:50 and they made shit weird and fun to talk about. And I think those people unfortunately now have influence over our favorite artists. I think our A-list artists are even looking at rap beef differently now based off how the internet is dictating
Starting point is 01:08:05 shit and how they pick a winner. I'm sorry, Drake even said on Iceman y'all boys was Islandhafen. Do I think that Drake thinks push a tea and hoax, and Hove were really in the Epstein files doing nasty shit? No. But they lied on Drake's name.
Starting point is 01:08:23 So he's like, well, this is the rules now. So I can say y'all was island hopping, even though I don't think that. So I think Drake is in a mind state right now of, all right, you guys told me the rules before, which even says on Iceman. I didn't know y'all rewrote the rules. You think Drake's petty ass is going to play by the old rules? We're going to get a whole Epstein freestyle. 9 a.m. on the island.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Like, I'm cooler all of that. That's why I just think it's going to go to a weird. It ain't going to that. But I do think the rumor of Drake and scary hours four, I have no actual information. I'm talking about them. I'm a little nervous. You look scared. You look scared.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Nick, don't be scared. Nigget, don't be scared, nigga. You ain't a night. I need a nightlight tonight. Yeah, you need a number of birds. Don't be scared. I got to check under the bed. I definitely got to check another bed.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Oh, man. With the internet, with the rumors of scary hours four and all that shit, I do think Drake, like, sends some. some bars, but all that shit has led to full records. We saw Nas and Hoves sending shots each. Eventually, it happens. And this is the most direct back and forth we've ever seen with these two. And like that was the first time we saw direct shots from Kendrick and Drake,
Starting point is 01:09:36 even though they had been throwing shots at each other for a decade. That was the first time we saw, oh, all right, this ain't subs. These are direct back and forth shots. This is the first time we've gotten it from Hove and Dr. Drake as well. And I'm saying those things can turn into a direct record. I think even if Drake gives Jay a direct record, I do not think Jay is. I think this was Jay responding to everything and he's done. I think he's cool. I think so too. I think I think I think I think so too. I don't think Jay wants to, because I said I don't think he wants a back and forth with anybody at this point. I think
Starting point is 01:10:10 there's a whole different whole different thing right now. But he's a rapper first. Like he's going rap if necessary or if he feels the need to but if we being honest it's probably it's probably going to happen thank you after all that but no but please make sure you had that part in the clip but it's different than what you're saying it's probably going to happen because it probably has to happen Drake is obviously the top dog mm-hmm j is obviously the greatest ever sometimes it got to happen I'm literally going to How does it happen with a 50-something year old
Starting point is 01:10:53 with three kids who is only doing things for fun When it comes to music Ho's only doing it If he's moved by it They both two of the most successful rappers Two of the richest rappers ever
Starting point is 01:11:06 And if we never If we want to get in the booth And start really dragging our nuts And talking our shit Then let's do it That's all Now I'm with it as long as it remains, you know, rap and respectful.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I'm not, don't, I'm not with the corny, just make up anything and say anything bullshit that we witnessed two years ago. I'm not with that. But I don't act like, oh, not above that. He didn't actually leave a condom in a baby seat. You don't know that? You don't know that.
Starting point is 01:11:31 You don't know that. You don't know that. You don't know that. You don't know what you left, niggas that really get down like that. Fact. Oh. I know niggas that fuck shorties and the baby was in the bed sleep. That ain't they baby?
Starting point is 01:11:40 Oh, no, I know that for a thing. All right. So you think somebody's against leaving a condom in a baby seat? the baby. I'm not saying Jay put the condom on the baby egg. I ain't saying that. Jay, not that type of nigga,
Starting point is 01:11:52 but if the baby seat was empty and I just finished clapping cheeks, I might have left the condom there. Like, I'm what I mean? Like, yeah. I just think Hove is sick at that point in his career.
Starting point is 01:12:01 He's fucking in a car and there's a car seat next to him while he's fucking. No, you got to get it off sometimes. Fuck that. Yeah. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:08 it probably has to happen. It probably has to. And how are you going to handle all of this, my love? We circle right back to the JD question. It ain't their firm friends. Friends never had to decide. Yeah, I'm going to sit back and enjoy it like that.
Starting point is 01:12:23 You know, this nigga over here telling me like, what side don't need to be explained? What side, nigga? What side are you on? It ain't no side to pick because it's not beef. It's not a beef. It's just two niggas going at it. It's not a beef.
Starting point is 01:12:34 All right. Hypothetically, if it goes there. You got to pick a side. I picked mine. I was with Biggs. I ain't going to lie. I might have to ride with my man, Drake, man. Over your actual family?
Starting point is 01:12:48 I don't know. Yeah, man. All right. Oh, my God. I've defended you for so long. Things are misunderstood. Y'all don't, you know, you don't understand. I got to ride with my man.
Starting point is 01:12:58 I even explain certain things to fans. It's my man. That looks like, you don't understand. How would you feel? Hey, hold. Hove is big, bro. But I'm just saying, in a frilly little fade with my man, I got to go with my man, though. I got to go with my man.
Starting point is 01:13:09 It ain't going to be nothing. It ain't going to be nothing. It ain't nothing of that. But if it's a frilly fade, then my man versus big bro. Yo, yo, though, listen, man. Peege, let me get this camera. Biggs, I'm your little brother now. I'm your little brother now.
Starting point is 01:13:25 I'm the captain. I'm your little brother now. I got to go with my man. I got to go with my man. Which I want me to do. I'm about to call your sister, bro. That's insane. Yo, Yates, I got to go with my man, B. Jay is big bro.
Starting point is 01:13:38 That's big bro. That's family. We know that. You know why, though, but let me tell. But my man. No, but let's really dig into some shit. Like, let's really be real here. And the reason why Marl is picking the side that he's picking.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Because he knows. that his family won't disown him if he don't pick his family side. Disown me? Can't nobody disown me? You're talking about. His family loves him. And I love my family. And won't disown him if he picks his friend's side. But if this is my man like, yo, listen, big bro wanted to go
Starting point is 01:14:03 in the streets and catch a fate. And that's my man. I'm like, big bro hit hard as shit, yo, but I'm yo, come on, man. I got a roof of my man. DeMaris, you're not seeing it. I got a roof of my man. I am. You surprised me with this one. It's a frilly fade. This ain't going to get, like this ain't no beef.
Starting point is 01:14:22 It's a frilly fade. I don't want to snitch on them, but I see the play and I respect it. Remember when Kendrick said, you never thought OVO was working for me? Mall's going to pretend to be on Drake's side and be running that shit right back to Hope. Word. You don't think Hope got like better moles? I see what you're doing? You think I'm one of them niggas.
Starting point is 01:14:41 No, if it's my man, I got to rob my man. That's big bro, though. Like I'm saying, I'm like, yo, this nigga hit hard, though. If you're my man and you're about to find, I'm like, listen, you know that nigga hit hard. All right, nigga. But I'm just saying, I'm going with my man. I got to rob my man. That's all.
Starting point is 01:14:58 It's all the love all the way around. You put the camera on me? Yo, Biggs, whatever tickets you have for that, nigga, for night one, night, two, ninth. I'm right here, my nigga. You know, you see. You see who I'm routing, my nigga. You can be bought. Y'all can be bought.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I can't. That's the difference between us. Y'all can be purchased. Mall's not. You're up for sale. Yeah. Quizzy, God damn it. Come on.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Motherfuck. Now, what if he lose? Yo, let Hove do some fireworks at Yankee Stadium. The biggest you have all times come from my mouth. What if he lose? Either one of them. How do you react to either loss? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:38 You got to watch it play out. I will say there is some ammo, whether it's true or not, of what Hove was saying as far as have that same type of tone with those. crackers. I can use that word hardy or crackers. I can use that. Um, because I am one. Sean's laughing. I'm not saying that the, the OVO internet is right. But yeah, there's a lot of footage of, of Hove with Harvey Weinstein, obviously not knowing what Harvey was doing, but worked with Hove being at dinner with, uh, Kushner at the next table. It does leave room in a battle. I'm not saying Hove was fucking Kee-Keeing with Trump, but it leaves room
Starting point is 01:16:21 in a battle to be like, all right, hypocrite. You talk to them crackers the same way. It probably has to happen is all I'm saying, man. They two of the most successful rappers ever. It just, that's just how life goes. That's the universe. It's not meaningful, Maris. It's the universe.
Starting point is 01:16:42 It's the universe. The universe making this happen. I don't want it to happen, but it probably has to happen. Like, that's just part of this thing. Like, I'm the top dog. Okay, cool. There's a new kid in town. He got that soft white.
Starting point is 01:16:57 That's sure to come back, Brown. You know, all right, cool. Just a nigga lit right now. At some point, another, me and him got to sit across from the table and we got to have a powwow. Well, the rumors on the internet, this is Twitter. So it's a fact. Was that Jay tried to do that meeting? And then Chubbs pressed him.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I don't know about all that. See, I don't see how he. You too deep into them X streets. I ain't that deep into them X streets. Beverly Hotel or some shit. Yeah, what they was having? Cappuccino. And no disrespect.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I'm not saying anything about. Chubs walked in with a briefcase. Chubs in that regard. I just don't. I just don't see. Shubs walking with a briefcase. Like that ever happens? Like, what the fuck are we talking about, man?
Starting point is 01:17:39 Like, I don't know about all of that shit. But, you know, as far as, you know, it probably has to happen. And, you know, it's been, listen, some things happened, man. Now, you know, Drake, as we know, he felt the way about a lot of things that happened in the last two years. Jay giving Kendrick that Super Bowl performance, it's safe to say Drake felt the way about that. Which is why I thought it was totally fine with him giving whole bars on Iceman. Totally fine. I didn't think it was crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:03 As a whole vendry, I was like, yeah, it makes sense. As a rap fan, I'm a rap fan. I want to see the best go at it. As long as it remains rat, when you start bringing up fake bullshit and putting corny shit in the pot, I don't want to see that. I believe Jay is not that type of rapper and I believe Drake is not that type of rap I believe both of these gentlemen have bars in their head because if you, the best,
Starting point is 01:18:27 you got balls in your head about the best or nigger whoever they say is the best. You just low key right and they might not know same at basketball. He's the nicest eye. You looking at his moves. I got a counterfall of that when I get in front of that, nigga. That's just part of the game.
Starting point is 01:18:41 So I'm not against it. It probably has to happen. will it happen I don't know talking to my man not repeating what we said obviously but I'll just say it probably has to happen
Starting point is 01:18:58 and that's just the way it goes sometimes man I'm here for it I want to see it if it does happen I'm front and center for that shit based of what you just said there correct to believe and if Hove would have performed this freestyle in a cool laid back slick JZ type of way I'd have been like, man,
Starting point is 01:19:16 Hove just having fun and reply to people. Like, will he be giggling this shit? He is mad. So that's why I'm saying. It could happen because he's mad. Y'all missing a whole other layer to this, though. Jay is very calculated. Well, he's probably one of most calculated human beings on Earth.
Starting point is 01:19:29 If you, yeah, you can't be that successful and not be calculated. If you think that Jay didn't know. Oh, he didn't let it all out on this. No, that's more bars. We know that. But if you think that Jay didn't know that when he gave Kendrick that half-time show, that Drake was going to fill away about that
Starting point is 01:19:48 and have something to say about that? Oh, for sure. Of course. They didn't give a fuck. Come on, man. I ain't got a lie anyway. Like, this is all, this is all part of the script. This is all part of it.
Starting point is 01:19:59 It has to happen. The roots remember, even when the trees pretend. It has to happen, man. It has to happen. Like, you know. But as long as it's rap, though. I don't hear no corny bars about, this niggas.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Shut up. Niggas, shut up. Niggins, who ain't hear that shit? Let's keep it wraps. Again, I'm with, I'm with Biggs, but I can be objective. I think Drake has a right to do that. Do what? The corny shit that you're saying.
Starting point is 01:20:26 No, you don't. If somebody called me a pedophile, I'm not a pedophile, and these are the rules now, yeah. It's not the rules now. I'm not the rules now. It's not the rules now. This is the time we on? I bet I can do it too. Nobody was on that time except your man.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Nobody was ever on that time. That was your man that got on that time. I'm on hove side here. I'm not. No, I'm talking about your man. Man, nigga, you're man. That nigga. They don't like me either.
Starting point is 01:20:49 That nigga in the back. That nigga, way down there. That nigga. Yeah, nigga. We told him about Jay and Drake, bars, raps, apprentice, student, however you want to slice it. But Drake is obviously, he's the top guy now. It is what it is.
Starting point is 01:21:08 He's him. He's the guy. He's the guy. Jay is, you know, he's like Jordan. He walk in the room. Niggas, that's Mike, nigger. It won't get different. when Jay walk in. But when Cole walk in, she get different too. So what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:21:24 I hear you. I think there's a little bit of a difference in that, but I hear you. It's a, of course, there's a difference between Drake and Jay-Z. Yes. No, I meant like with the reference you just did. Because like- No, who's the best? Who's the go? Jay-Z. Right? Do you believe that? Of course. Okay, cool. What I'm saying is, sooner or later, is going to come along another guy that everybody in the room is going to start to look like, yeah, that's that nigga? This nigga's bad, though.
Starting point is 01:21:52 For sure. And I feel like people are- Let me hear him. Let me hear him say something. Well, it's the first time it's happened because the only other person Jay ended up doing a collab album with because he signed him.
Starting point is 01:22:01 This is the first time it's happened. And like I said, Jay is calculated. He knew when he gave Kendrick that halftime show. He knew that that was going to come back at some point in show his head. Like, he knew, Drake felt. He know Drake felt the way about that.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Because he addressed it in the GQ thing. Like, what was I supposed to not give Kendrick? Like, he had an amazing year. We understand that. But I'm just a guessing man. If Dr. Dre would have gave Nas the Super Bowl halftime show to get ether off, Jay-Z would feel some way towards Dr. Dre.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Yeah. That's just how it goes. Like, it's just, you know what I'm saying? It's part of it. Like, we understand it. Like, and Dr. Dre would know that. Like, I know he's not fucking with me right now. He feels some type of way. So I think this is part of, I think this is all, you know, this is leading to something. And, you know, rap is just going to rap, man.
Starting point is 01:22:54 It is what it is. I went on a drunk Hennessy Fuel rant on TikTok Live. The day this freestyle came out. I didn't even know TikTok had it live, but go ahead. The day this freestyle came out because I was taking my makeup off. They started asking for my opinion on the shit. I'm like, oh, you know, I'm so happy. Like, the goat is back rapping, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:23:10 And they wanted to talk about. Like, niggas, like, we now talk and rap with people who were born after 2000. And niggas is in the comments asking me stupid shit. Like, okay, well, what year did Jay run rap? And I lost my shit. Like, they accused me of being on cocaine. I literally lost my shit. That's a big Twitter theory.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And I'm not saying that there isn't some credence to that where maybe he wasn't the number one guy, but to have a 25, 30-year career of every. every year you're right there. To me, that's better than one year, Nelly was the best. Like, for 30 years, you're that relevant and the goal. And that's why I think that should is, like, I hate that conversation. Y'all, y'all are so used to gimmicks. A gimmick has a good year.
Starting point is 01:23:56 A gimmick has a good year, a good two years. Everybody can get high. Where you're like, you're the thing that's, you can have a moment. Yeah, you can have a moment. But to be the nigger that everybody looks up to for people's whole entire lifetime, that's because you are the best. You don't need a gimmicky fucking year. And on top of that, I'm telling them, I'm like, y'all, hip hop is relatively new.
Starting point is 01:24:17 This, like, when hip hop started going, the only way you're going to go, number one, as a hip hop artist, unless the song is just like so astronomically, amazingly good, is if the white people in the middle of America are support in your music. That's it. That's, you have to do that to go number one. Well, Hobanahs are the only rappers we've seen age in their career. Exactly. Because hip hop is so young. You have to make a type of song that everybody can sing. It doesn't make you less good at what you do because people who can't relate to your music
Starting point is 01:24:48 aren't listening to it. So that whole like number one thing when the people who really like back the culture and make the culture what it is, they're not the ones that are going to get you number one, especially in this day and age. It's just not going to happen. So you're talking about Drake, I mean, Drake versus Jay Z's ability to go number one when when Jay was at the top of his career, the type of his, the type of music that he made. made was not number one pop music.
Starting point is 01:25:11 It just didn't happen. That doesn't take away from his talent or how good the songs were. Well, that's why I have Jade as the greatest rapper ever because he's that, a pure rapper. He's a rapper, exactly. And to have that success in your music coming from, you know, just his origin to go from where he started to where he is through rapping, just rap? There's no, that's just not, you can't even write that script. script in a movie, you know what I'm saying? So I understand what they're like? When did he run rap? I get all
Starting point is 01:25:44 of that. Like, but Jay-Z is the greatest rapper ever. Like, that's just point-blank period. But again, there's a kid by the name of Drake who has been dominating music for the last 14 years, something like that. And he has something to say right now. So. Yeah. Well, I mean, outside of this, it was a great show. Like like like like like mind you we got to hovey baby and then the freestyle yeah there was songs after that he got until you don't know right after that you know we got a great song with me you know I got it I was shocked at the amount of uh Magna Carter records that he did I was so happy watching that listen I wasn't mad at it like they worked for sure and I loved uh Bilau doing the male vocals no church in
Starting point is 01:26:30 the wilds he did a couple other joints jasmine Sullivan feeling it was crazy uh admittedly whoever the sound guy was or Mike was a little muffled which bothered me a bit but the set was fucking amazing seeing PD crack JZ Freeway and beans together on stage I may have shed it to you you cry when the state property came out cry for show this nigga would never make it in this state property you snitch you snitching the bookings bro
Starting point is 01:27:00 oh my god freeway's a friend no it was dope to see me together man And Pete was there. We said Pete would be there. Yeah. We said Petey would be there. Peter was there. Petit Man's business.
Starting point is 01:27:13 He'd been chilling. Pete he been chilling, man. Petit was there. It was good. Young guns. Can't Stop, Won't Stop. Went crazy. I would have loved if they, I think no better love would have went crazier than Canst stop.
Starting point is 01:27:26 I know Can't Stop won't stop is the bigger record. But in Philly, if no better love. It's too slow. Good record, but it's too slow. I feel you, though. I feel you. I love that record, but it might be just a little too slow. But, I mean, he did...
Starting point is 01:27:43 Ironically... He got to excuse me missed, though. That's slow. Yeah. Actually, he did fucking cannot live. Yeah. Well, yeah. Don't get much slower than that.
Starting point is 01:27:53 It's not really a surprise, but out of all the records he performed and the freestyle, what we do... Still. It fucking... The place exploded. I don't want to say that the crowd was like, maybe something like crowd didn't deserve this set. Because some people I was like,
Starting point is 01:28:13 how are you not losing your mind over the shit? No, I don't lie. I love seeing Jasmine do feeling it, though. That was hard. That was fired. I felt that was hard. But when what we do came on, you know, rest in peace to my Twitter,
Starting point is 01:28:26 but I had said, when I die, please play what we do at my funeral. When the cask is going, just play what we do. That's my only request at my funeral. is what we do. That place went fucking nuts
Starting point is 01:28:39 when they did what we do. And they had been on stage already. Like it wasn't like some surprise. They'd been chilling for a minute. That place went fucking nuts. I loved him doing the Marcy me verse on the You Don't Know beat. Also, wow.
Starting point is 01:28:55 All right, so we're on, there's the Deucey riser and at the bottom there's like the gate to where like the G.A. shit is. And we were right on the gate. where you from comes on we all go nuts right in the midst of us watching
Starting point is 01:29:17 where I'm from somebody gets clean knocked the fuck out literally they were still standing up and were asleep and fell like a dead body can you scroll up to the track list
Starting point is 01:29:33 where's where I'm from where I'm from Marcy me dirt off your shoulder I know He woke up at Never Change. It's a good time to wake up. That's a good record. That's a good record. Yeah, I want to wake up when Never Change comes down.
Starting point is 01:29:48 So it's me, Sean, BDOT, Frazier, we're all like on shit. And then Walee's right next to me. And Wale has a bot. Damn. How many fucking names are you going to drop, though? No, I'm really popular. Jesus. How many who's that?
Starting point is 01:30:02 Where's the name counter at, Bid. Are we at 12? No, I'm really tapped in. I don't know if you knew that. Ew. Like, I'm really, like, I'm really. People know me. Me, B.Dat, Frazier, Wale, Sean Dickerson, da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 01:30:16 God, Winnie Harlow. Who else was dead? I would have invited you. My bad. Oh, you couldn't get a ticket? He damn, so won't be after this episode. So, Madhu, Sungis slept, and the crowd just, like, creates this circle of just this dead body that's laying right there. and everyone nationally's like well damn that sucks but where i'm from is playing so we all just
Starting point is 01:30:44 are like well wow that's crazy wali is standing on the little like you know the barricades have that one step wali has a half drinking water bottle and is telling the crowd give him my water from the stage he's dead yeah that water ain't going to wake him up wiley you're going to pour it on him bro that shit and then secure that shit and then security he came and shit Dave was all looking at us like we decided like we on the other side of the barricade how the fuck we knocked somebody out over there
Starting point is 01:31:16 no it was y'all y'all said it up y'all lined homie well hopefully I'll tell you I'll tell you off mic who wowed out on security for trying to blame that front row it's very funny I was hoping there was some pepper spray um anyways did you guys see any other clips besides obviously the freestyle of performances that you liked. No, tell them what you text me about Mariah of the scientists.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Oh, she, nah, because she's a, she's in relationship. No. I would never say a public, like, I wouldn't, I don't know thugs. I didn't even respond to Rory for like six hours. I just put my phone down and was just like, the fuck is wrong with you, bro. It was a compliment. Anyway, I saw a Brandy perform.
Starting point is 01:31:58 She's stoned it good. Yeah, brought out Monica, too. The only other performance I saw was Waleigh. So, yeah, Wiley did a, I saw J.D. and I think I didn't see no other performances TTI had a crazy performance He wasn't on the main stage
Starting point is 01:32:15 But everyone ran from the main stage over there Our guy Nucci did his block party with Chappelle Shout out the Nucci, man Chappelle was a part of as well Adam Blackstone did the waiting to Excel soundtrack Shout out to our Homegirl Go Who was on there as well No there was a lot of great
Starting point is 01:32:32 The second day was cool because like the whole shit had war off. The whole first day, everyone was like, well, I don't know if I want to move because what happens when Hove comes. I can't get my spot back. Like, I saw people even in front of the stage in GA is like, I want to go see everyone, but nah.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I'm staying here from 3 p.m. to now. Did him in Blackthorpe right? No, Blackthaw didn't do anything, right? Blackthaw didn't. No, no, with Joe. No, I didn't. though that shot at yeah bringing meek out was great
Starting point is 01:33:06 his shot at quest love made me actually laugh out loud in real time Quest laugh he laughed too oh yeah no see his face it's like yeah you're right I did I did introduce you to I did I did you had to eat that yeah I got to eat that I did introduce you to her
Starting point is 01:33:23 Jazzby Jeff did both days no it was a great great event outside of the obvious admittedly I did not see Erica Boddew because getting out the first day took me about two hours to get off the grounds. So I've seen Erica live a bunch of times and nah, I got my Uber.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Kailani was great though. Me and Sean walked in on the after party for five minutes, walked in and walked out. Why? Because Kailani has all, like, they're not going to talk to us? Yeah. What I'm in there for? You got a point.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I mean, sometimes it's nice just to party. like I don't want to I don't want to watch Kaylani get all the hose oh so you're a hater yeah oh okay cool yes demire me I mean I don't want to watch somebody get all the hose yeah
Starting point is 01:34:15 she walked it we we walked in maybe like a minute before her and when she walked in it was like I'm out of whole party just flip oh Alan Iverson listened to our podcast I totally forgot about that Bubba Chub! I met Alan Iverson.
Starting point is 01:34:32 It's the first fucking time I've ever regretted not asking for a picture. You got to ask AI for a picture, bro. I've talked about my list of people I would ask, and he was always the person on my list. I would ask for a photo. But in the, like, it would have been awkward if I would have, like, we were kicking it. And yeah, that would have been, I didn't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:34:54 In my head, though, which don't, don't repeat this to anyone. In my head, though, I was like, please, one of these fucking photographers come over here. Somebody get, get like a candid. One of the candor, you were a-out kicking it. But don't repeat that to anyone. I didn't think that. I would have grabbed one of you if you would have actually called me and gave me a ticket like you said you would. I would have took one.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Get your shit off, baby, D. See? Go ahead. You weren't coming. To see Hove, I would have came. That's such a lot. You were somewhere, though. Where you was at?
Starting point is 01:35:25 You was outside. I promise you, I went to Lavender Room. for literally two hours, that's the only time I left my house all weekend. Okay. Yeah. I had a home girl in town, and I went to 11.
Starting point is 01:35:35 I know you did. Send her news the same way you did with other people. I'm so tired of him. I'm so tired of him. She was going to come here to visit me today, too. And we got company and shit? It would have been perfect. And we got company and shit.
Starting point is 01:35:51 It would have been perfect. We got a whole live studio audience here. Hey, it's perfect. She went back home. Yeah, she should. I think she leaves that, Tim. Oh, we got time. Mad hours before 10, right?
Starting point is 01:36:03 Mad sunlight. Hours before 10. Yeah, we got mad sunlight left, baby. What's up? We give a ride to the airport and everything. Yeah. Yeah, that's so funny. Tell us what's that.
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Starting point is 01:36:53 The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place soccer, football, at home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Chavari, and this is American Football.
Starting point is 01:37:19 A show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my... It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that.
Starting point is 01:37:44 As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Coutura Podcast Network, available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people. Like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer. And that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartner depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, listen up. The Jonas Brothers here. Our podcast is called, Hey Jonas. We're here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend Nile Horn is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can be about food.
Starting point is 01:38:48 You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. All right, never mind. I thought we were going to get all roots picking and going to something else. In real time, Tasha K, what does Tasha K do besides get sued? I know Cardi B sued the draws off her ass, though, so
Starting point is 01:39:15 You don't need to Google what just Tasha K do. Go back to the tweet, thank you. Tasha K just tweeted five minutes ago, Whoa, just got word that Jay-Z allegedly kicked Rory and Mall out of his section at the Roots Picnic. He allegedly told them, I thought you both were Drake fans,
Starting point is 01:39:35 then proceeded to kick them out. This is bad news, considering they are rock nation talent and signed to him. Everything is allegedly, even my name is allegedly. Let's start with the first one. Jay-Z doing a headline festival where he's doing a freestyle addressing everything that has been said about him in five years. You think Jay-Z is trying to wonder where Rory's standing? I was home.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Mall was in New York City. I was about to say, Ma, I can't believe you went without me. I was watching Game 7 in the crib, man. So Jay is putting his set together with the Roots State Property Reunion, Bilau, Jasmine Sullivan. Instead of that, Jay-Z leaves backstage and goes into Jen Pop and finds Rory. And says, aren't you a Drake fan? Get out of my section.
Starting point is 01:40:41 That's not my section. That makes mad sense. I will say this, though. This is the first time my name, J name, and Drake's name, and Ruth Bickney has been in the same sentence. Yeah, I've never, this is original sentence, for sure. This is as original as it gets. But I'm sorry, Tasha K.
Starting point is 01:40:56 No disrespect to you or your sources. But I was in New York City home watching Stefan Castle and Wembeiyama. I wasn't nowhere near Ruth Bickney. We signed the Rock Nation. And also, Tasha K, I am not signed. to Rock Nation. This is bad news, considering they are Rock Nation talent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Can we pull up the Rock Nation website roster? Yeah, I'm just not, I'm not signed to Rock Nation, Toshke, but. We do kind of look like Joe and Jada. She did. She, to be fair, we do look like Joe and Gator a little bit, right? But to be fair, she did say allegedly. So, yeah. Well, there's like 17 lies in that.
Starting point is 01:41:37 You can't say one lie you could say allegedly. Yeah. And now y'all see why I'm ride with my man, Jay, kicked me out. Uh-huh. A rooch picnic out the section and all. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Yeah. Come on, Drake. Niggas kicking me out of sections and all that. Yeah. I was home, man. What are y'all talking about? Imagine Jay leaving backstage. I thought you was a Drake fan.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Yo, kick them out? Yeah, I don't know who your sources are, Tasha K. But you did say allegedly, so we could leave it at that. This is the dumbest shit. This is like, fun. Now I feel everyone that shit's on, because I don't know Tasha K, we know. Talked about Tasha K.
Starting point is 01:42:15 I don't particularly care. I mean that respectfully. I'm not saying I don't care, I just don't know her or don't care. Now I understand why people get so upset at this woman. Like this is fucking, like no. So you could just legitimately make up a fairy tale. A couple fairy tales and just say allegedly?
Starting point is 01:42:31 Yeah. It's a nasty world, man. See, my thing is with these people who claim to be reporters, bloggers, whatever, right? You might have gotten word, from a source that's lying about the top part, but it takes a Google search to Google that y'all aren't rock nation talent. Like, that's part of like, do the full reporting. I love that you think Tosh is doing research. No, I don't think that. I don't think that that's what she doesn't have
Starting point is 01:42:55 any more draws left. But my point is this is why people are mad at her. You can't get mad at a source telling her some bullshit, but I can get mad at you for not verifying it and also not looking, doing your basic Google searches. I just like, but y'all don't understand. We got kicked out twice because she said she just got word that Jay-Z allegedly kicked Rory Moore out of his section as a picnic. He allegedly told him, I thought you both were Drake fans, then proceeded to kick them out. There's two kicks outs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:21 I got kicked out twice. Kicked out of section, then kicked off the ground. Yeah, I got kicked out of Philly. Let's look at this in a positive way. I was home. Let's find the positivity and everything. It's 2026. We love positivity.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Okay. I'm flattered that Jay-Z went out of his way to focus on where I was. Yeah. Yeah. That makes me feel pretty good. Gotta find the silver lining and everything, Rory. So yes, I'm pretty important. I'm glad Jay took time to locate
Starting point is 01:43:48 Grory and myself, even though I was all the way in New York City and kick us both out of. I love that she spelled mall like, like the mall. Go to the mall. It's one L, my name is Jamal. My name is Jamal. But yeah, you know, whatever it is. I didn't get kicked out.
Starting point is 01:44:05 I was still there, so. Mm-hmm. Allegedly. Mm-hmm. Well, like, did he? yelling from the stage. Yeah, yeah. He went in the crowd. Yeah, he walked through. He parted so he made a way. I didn't want to say it. That's Jehovah. You know when people are like, yo, my friends going through something, they need advice, but they usually talk about themselves.
Starting point is 01:44:25 That person that got slept, like knocked the fuck out. Hove knocked me the fuck out. Mid-performance. It was you. I was just laying there, lifeless. It was you. Damn, yo. That's, that's Pain. See what happens when you're going to go Rory the roots and get kicked out.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Yeah. That's embarrassing. I don't like being kicked out. I'd have been very embarrassed. I would have said, I don't even like my name not in the show. I don't know them like that.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I was in a conversation before I got kicked out of the Doucet Riser. I was in a conversation with some industry leaders. I won't say their names. And they were talking about... Industry leaders?
Starting point is 01:45:04 Leaders. Calling somebody industry leader is so fucking crazy. What? Alright, now I need to know who are the industry leaders? Like the same people I named before.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Who the fuck are the industry leaders? They dictate the landscape. Okay. I got you. So, and they were all talking about who's performed the most at Roots. And I kind of had to talk my shit. I looked like I said, I think Moll and I lead the list.
Starting point is 01:45:34 What we yet? No. Two. Twice? Okay. They were trying to find someone that performed. I said, I mean, I think it's only, I think it's Rory and Marie and Mar.
Starting point is 01:45:41 and then everyone else is just there. It's like, it's Rory Moore and then Hove. That's why Jay kicked us out. You've got two appearances at Roots Picnic. He was like, that's enough. We've headlined the podcast stage twice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Okay. All right. Packed out. They missed Summer Walker for us. Anyways. Shout out to Roots Picnic. As usual, an amazing, amazing event. Shout to Boost Mobile.
Starting point is 01:46:13 for everything that they did AdWR's picnic with me. Unlimited talk text, data, and kicked outness. Yeah, after I got kicked out, I went on my phone and thank God, Boost Mobile gave me service so I could call my mom and be like, Mom, they're being mean.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Can you pick me up? So shout to Bruce there. I didn't miss a lot of stuff because of the picnic. I am still catching up. Sorry. It's okay. That's why you got kicked up.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Focus on the show, not. No, I am. This was something. Okay, got it. That was Tasha. No, no. I'm catching up now on the ride up with this whole ditty debacle. I didn't get a chance to watch the footage, which I probably won't.
Starting point is 01:46:55 But a sex tape was leaked, which Vlad has been verbally jerking off to for the last six months. So I know he's happy that the rest of the world saw it. Demaris, you said this shit is 40 minutes. I thought it was like a clip. 40 minutes. I saw people talk about diddy. dick and that's why I just kept scrolling. I thought it was just like a clip.
Starting point is 01:47:18 Like a actual performance was put on. 40 minutes? Who could fuck for 40 minutes? They weren't fucking for 40 minutes. A lot of it was the porn star like trying to get hard again. But I mean, I feel like it's hard to get hard when like Diddy like is standing there with his dick in his hand like. Wait, but poor.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Poor boy. He was doing what? Diddy was like walking around with his dick in his hand changing the music, changing the lights. talking them through it. All right, man. You're setting the vibe. I'm not being like good at my job. I'm just being a dead ass right now.
Starting point is 01:47:51 That's what he was doing. He like, you know, was walking around dick in his hands. Like, and was like pouring baby oil on them. On them? On them, yeah. Like, there wasn't enough baby oil. Like, I understand why he has so much baby oil.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Like, he dead ass has a baby oil fetish. Like, they were already greased up. Like, you know baby oil stayed there for a while. Word. The baby oil, you pour in a shower. and baby oil is not going to be. Yeah, no. That nigga kept pouring baby oil on him. Like, he wanted to see it like dripping off him. Oh, wait. Did he part? He was not fucking. Was it a threesome? I did not see, I did not see Diddy fuck at any point in that video.
Starting point is 01:48:26 So why are you naked? He's jerking off. All right, son, listen, check this out. You ain't got to get butt ass and fuck all. First and foremost, you do not have to get butt ass naked to shake one out. Now, I'm not saying that. I want to laugh more if he was Winnie the Pooh. I'm not saying that Did he at no point was involved in the sex, but from the tape that I saw at no point was Diddy fucking. Okay. But you would think that part started. Like, shirdy got done like sucking dick.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Like he like, did he like handed her a towel? She was like, thank you, daddy. And yeah. But I would find it hard to get, I would find it hard to get hard. And if, if such a great musician was sitting up there with his dick in his hands, watching me fuck the girl he's involved with and like talking us through it and pouring pouring baby oil on us. I would might have a problem getting hard.
Starting point is 01:49:17 It's a little awkward. You think it's talking to himself in his head, like, can't stop. He's a piece of poor stuff, right? You could do it. You could do it. Slide digler. Slide digler. He's fucked in front of, like, the live studio audience.
Starting point is 01:49:29 There's probably 20 people on a porn set. But he don't, them niggas ain't hip-hop moguls. Them niggas ain't Discover big. Yeah, like, it's different when you, like, if I'm about to smash something and Dr. Dre start walking around him butt ass, I'm gonna be like, yo, son, like, I can't do this. Like, I, I grew up listening to this nigga right here. Like, what is we doing right now?
Starting point is 01:49:51 Like, you just can't. Like, I'm not doing, nah. That's just weird. And then changing the light colors and shit. Like, you throwing off his equilibrium. Stay still. Like, Did he kept walking around the room? Like, niggas, stay still.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Hold the camera. Why is you walking around? Damn. I mean, he paid for it, right? Somebody said, if Did he put his dick in his hands, like, and closed his fist, like, nobody would know he was hiding. Nothing. I saw that on Twitter
Starting point is 01:50:13 I was actually very funny See I don't care about Ditty's dick The listeners might Nobody listening to this podcast cares about Dittany. You are mad gay listeners
Starting point is 01:50:24 Shout out to the gay listeners Happy Pride Month Happy Pride Month Yeah Happy Pride Month to you as well Thank you And to all of our listeners That are LGBT
Starting point is 01:50:32 Hold up Our Pride Month Is the same month As Men's Mental Health Month Mental Mental Health Month It's men's mental health month It's men's mental health month You need some better help
Starting point is 01:50:43 June is men's mental health month, right? Why do you know that? Yeah, because I'm a man. You don't give a fuck about your mental health? I just don't see you. I guess I just don't see where you're making the connection. Like, why can't both things exist in June? Nah, you go right?
Starting point is 01:50:57 Get them, niggas another month, B. Gay people are fuck with your mental health? Yeah, give them another month, man. Yeah. And we're back. Yeah. Well, yes, happy Pride Month to all of our listeners that celebrate it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:14 I just don't really care about Diddy's Dick. I did see, what's her name? Sorry, Daphne Joy. Yes. I did see that she replied with a lengthy response of her having to relive her being abused and prayers to her and that entire thing. No, I don't want to just throw out. I'm saying prayers for, he's not praying for Daphne.
Starting point is 01:51:33 He's never got on his knees at night and said, Lord. please take care of Daphne Joy. You don't know. You've never done that. But I mean today I'm at. Today I might. How about we say this? For the people who do pray for people they don't know, please pray for her. And I mean that seriously because women are so often getting caught in the middle of men's shit towards each other. I don't know who leaked
Starting point is 01:51:56 this. I don't know who did this. But. Oh no. I'm not making a mockery of it because again, again, we've been the only part that has been on the fuck diddy. I'm not, I'm not taking this shit lightly whatsoever. And I don't care if you watch that video and feel like she's not being abused. Revenge porn is abuse. Extorting someone
Starting point is 01:52:14 with their intimate moments that they didn't consent to and selling it and posting it is fucking abuse. And it's nasty and don't do it. Can y'all imagine waking up and y'all pussy was on the internet? Am I cuffing it like this? Like butt ass, I'm butt ass on the internet? Yeah. Against your will? Like that's so fucked. But y'all y'all are women so y'all will never understand like that.
Starting point is 01:52:39 that's such a violation of privacy I agree I'm gonna lie that's how I felt when Shorty sent my my hammer pick to her group chat I was so hurt baby Dee you was not hurt you was
Starting point is 01:52:53 And this is where You wanted to fuck her friend anyway You was happy she did the free advertising I'm team double standards That's cross-marketing It's a linear and a vertical My dick was the vertical No serious
Starting point is 01:53:07 Seriously time Roy No, but again, you guys know I'm an advocate of double standards. It's a double standard, bro. Like, there should be no reason one of my home girls is saying, yo, I seen Maul's dick in a group in my group chat. That's a violation, but... I was hurt by that, Roy. Men's mental health.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Exactly. It's still painful. Man, fuck y'all mental health. My bad. That came from a personal, not a business standpoint. I'm so sorry. I love you both, and I hope that both of you are meaningful. mentally healthy. That's my bad. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:53:41 You wouldn't console it. If Maul's Hammer Pick ended up online, you wouldn't come in here, be like, oh, I feel so bad for you? Depending on what the hammer look like. What? If this nigga walking around with some shit that hit his kneecap, I'm not walking in and feeling bad for him that now everybody knows got a big gig. Just sending him my number.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Yeah, like, but if he come in and his shit is OD micro little nigger penis, I'm not. Nah, but they caught me on the smirm, just walking around. Like, I ain't really brick. Don't do that. I'm a grower, I'm a grower, not a show. Oh, little dick, niggins, favorite line. I'm a grower, not a shower. I am, I'm a grower.
Starting point is 01:54:20 I don't even, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's next pause? Like, what's the next part? Stop. Stop. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm not playing.
Starting point is 01:54:34 I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. All right. Stop at a car accident, pause. Yo. there was a line that my friend said afterwards that I did not ask for. She just added another parts of that sentence.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Which was what? And it was in mall's favor. I'll put it that way. And I was like, I didn't need to hear that. Oh. You wanted to tell everybody, Ma got some shit so bad. I didn't see. I'm not in the group chat.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Ma. Baby, D, you see that right? Baby, that's the helmet. That's the helmet right there. Ma, stop. Baby, Dee, look, you thought, you thought I had my, you know, you know, that was my Empire case? Nah, that ain't that
Starting point is 01:55:13 baby. When I'm in the crib, I stand like this. Yeah, baby, dude. No, what you? Stop.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Damn. Yo, you niggas play too much, bro. You not fucking with his kickstair? Oh. You gay.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna hold you. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna hold you. I said, he said, he said,
Starting point is 01:55:35 stop, I'm not playing. Yo, please. Oh, shit. But yeah, if we came in here in Mara,
Starting point is 01:55:41 was little to wrap that up, I would be very nice to you. I would. How would you go about that segment? I would like feel bad. Like if Maugh came in here and everybody found out his dick was little, I would feel I would be mad nice to him. I feel like that would make it worse. No.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Like don't pity me because my dick is small. But I'm not about to be mean to you and your dick small. That's mad problems. I think that'd be a better approach as a friend. Okay. Like clown, don't don't get me pity inches. Like, no, it's okay. It's the mom.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Oh, shit. No, I, we just... See, this is the power of the internet. Damn, I want to drop a name. All right, I ain't gonna tell you who does. But somebody just texted me and said, nah, this shit true. No, bro, I was new in there.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Can you also say that it's not you on my end either? Oh, yeah, you was dead then. That makes it look like I was the thing actually happened. Yo, niggins said, I wasn't in Philly. Like, damn. Who, y'all funny today, man. I mean, all right. I'll dress aside.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Oh, yeah, Daphne, seriously, that's fucked up. This one would extort your sex tapes and then release them and you have a child. Like, all that is, it's fucked up. That's fucked up, right? But is there a way I could just get like just the Daphne edit? Could I just see Daphne? Because she fine as a motherfucker. Like, I just want to see her naked.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Well, I mean, if it's, I don't want to see Puff walking around. I don't want to see Dirk. What's his name? Sly Diggler. So I don't want to see Sly. Just give me the. Daphne edit. Can somebody, DJ Hey, make the Daphne joy. Make the Daphne joy edit. DJ head, you want to use your editing skills for some positive. Check this out. Oh,
Starting point is 01:57:22 take puff and take what's his name? Sly. Yeah. Take Puff and Sly out of the sex tape and just give us give us one of sisters' best tunes in the background plan with just Daphne's beautifulness just walking around. What did DJ head say? All of that's been removed. Yeah, let's remove Let's remove all of the heads Let's remove all of that Yield, stop playing DJ head's name being involved
Starting point is 01:57:50 in this conversation is a pause Let's move all of that head Let's get all of that out of here Just give us Daffney And I know we make a joke again Like it's not cool I know we joke like I don't want to make light of it for you
Starting point is 01:58:02 Put that tape out of you I hate that But you are fine as fuck And I just want to peek That's all I don't want to see them over two niggas But you, you look good.
Starting point is 01:58:13 And to be fair, you should not watch sex tapes of people when they were not released Yeah. What you mean? Like if they didn't consent to it being released. So I shouldn't watch it on X right now? No, you shouldn't. Hey, Daphne look good.
Starting point is 01:58:28 It ain't my fault. You have to balance that out with also Puff and his generals. No, I'm so balancing out already. You can't really see Diddy Dick as little. But there was other shit that you can see. I'll ask the head to do a little. us all of favor and make the edit for us.
Starting point is 01:58:44 If DJ Head will be so kind and make that edit, I will go on DJhead.com and down there. No problem. Daphne Joy is gorgeous. You just skipped over with Dermerson. What did she say? She said, Dittie's ass is clear. I don't want to see Dittie's ass.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Like, I just don't want to see that. I'm sorry. I didn't want to see it either. Yeah, I don't want to see that. And Sly, no disrespect to Sly, whoever's name is. I don't want to see that. Yeah, don't want to see you either. No, you got some shit on him for show.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Yeah, but I forgot. You probably seen his work and don't even know. I think he's like a big porn star. Oh, okay. So I mean, I'll probably seen him, you know. And passing. But I don't want to see. Y'all don't think about that when y' y'all watch
Starting point is 01:59:24 lesbian porn. Where's all women? Like, why y'all don't want to see niggas porn? I do. I don't know why that line is just, I don't know why it's funny. It's just funny. But I got like the DJ head editing thing in my life.
Starting point is 01:59:36 When you watch porn you get it on the fly. You got like the Kanye stems. I don't see none of them niggas, yeah. You got the stem player. Yeah, I got the stem, yeah. You block it out and put yourself. You don't see them, niggas. You don't hear the niggumony.
Starting point is 01:59:48 You just got the stems for her monies. See that, man. I just see the women. That's what I'm here for. Okay. Yeah. Anyways, before we get out of here, I will admit, I'm very nervous about this week.
Starting point is 01:59:58 Why? Wednesday. Game one. Yeah. Yeah. What is looking like? Who were y'all wishing for? Were y'all wishing for okay?
Starting point is 02:00:14 Now, I'm going to keep it real. Now, my boy, he, he, put down 50K on the Spurs beginning of the season. The payout right now is at 300K if the Spurs win. I want to see my man touch that 300K. I ain't going to lie, man. Wait, that's what Hard Rock is getting up? I think so.
Starting point is 02:00:31 I think when he put that bet down. Yeah. I don't know. He made it at the, this was before the new year. And shout out to Hard Rock bet, sponsoring all of our Knicks and Spurs coverage. Yeah. But that's not a bad. That's not a bad bet.
Starting point is 02:00:46 You put 50K on the Spurs in November to win it all and then they actually get to the finals. Yeah. I want to see, I'm a New Yorker. I want to see the Knicks win. I ain't going to lie, though. Jalen Brunton ain't paying my man's mortgage, me. That's just a fact.
Starting point is 02:01:00 I want to see the Knicks win. I want to see the win. But my man got 297,000 sitting in the app, waiting on the catch. That was your man's fault for betting on the wrong team. Yeah. Spurs are minus 200.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Knicks plus 165 on Hard Rock right now. I hear you, but I don't know your man's and I don't know his mortgage. That's all right. But I know my heart. That's all right. My heart is with heart. Listen, that's cool. And I respect that.
Starting point is 02:01:31 I'm not mad. Meeting at the same time. I'm a New Yorker. I'm rooting for them. I'm legitimately nervous. I want to see it go seven. I want to see it go seven. I want to see it go four with the next winning.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Nah, sweet. Come on, that'd be crazy. And that ain't going to happen. They're not sweeping the Spurs. I can tell you that now. I'm nervous. I wouldn't prefer on Casey. This is the first time in the entire playoffs.
Starting point is 02:01:55 I think the Knicks are going to be tested. This is the test. Once I found out Webmyon is a fucking mob boss, like just sending out hits. Yeah, no, I don't. I'm nervous for Mitch. They're going to break his other finger, put it in an envelope and send it to his mom. Oh, yeah, Mitch, Mitch Robertson, yeah. But he's playing, though, that finger.
Starting point is 02:02:13 He don't need. that finger. Web and Yon is whispering people's ears and they get knocked off on the court. Yeah, man. It's going to be a good series, though. I think it's going to go seven. My heart is with the Knicks, but again, my boy got this, this $300K riding, man. I'm just, you know, so I'm rooting for him too, but I do want to see the next morning, man,
Starting point is 02:02:33 because we may not ever get this close again. You scared, huh? So scared. We're scared. No, it's scary. It's scary hours five. Man, don't be scared. You should have been scared when Hove kicked you out that section.
Starting point is 02:02:44 That's when you should have been scared. Don't be scared now. You don't think I fall back? Don't be scared now. You should have been scared when you saw all that hair walking towards you. Instead of focusing on the show. And you knew you was listening to Ice Man while he was up. No, he revealed the pro before he went on stage.
Starting point is 02:03:02 He blew it when he tried to kick me up. Yeah, funny. Peas, who you got, man? You like the next? MVP? MVP? Webinyana is minus 190. Brunson plus 210
Starting point is 02:03:16 I ain't going to lie I think MVP Can we pick two depending on the team that wins If the Spurs win I think Stefan Kassel's going to win MVP Really That's plus 4,000 right now
Starting point is 02:03:29 You know why It's something about When guards that can score Go to the guard And they have career fucking game Why would you put that in the air I don't care if it's true Why would you say that?
Starting point is 02:03:39 Why would the fuck would you say that? We got to talk to the facts I don't speak to the facts Swing on that nigga Stefan Kian Castle, I'm picking him. Wimby is the obvious. We know that. But I'm going Stefan Castle, if the Spurs win,
Starting point is 02:03:51 and I'm going Jalen Brunson, win the next one. You see what I did right there? See what I did? I said win. I like that. I didn't say if, I said win. So that Castle bet would be good. If you hoping your man's wins with the Spurs, that'd be a good bet for you. Plus 4,000 on that? Yeah. I mean, I'm going Jalen Brunson
Starting point is 02:04:07 and Webbingy. I don't think it's going to be like some surprise. I think it's just going to be Wemignon or Brunson. I mean, Carl, Kat got a chance too, though. Kat has been bowling all the playoffs. He got a chance to win MVP too, though.
Starting point is 02:04:24 He got a chance. O.G. might not be that crazy of a thought either. O.G. been playing solid, but he ain't going to win, he ain't going to be the MVP. He's rested, man. Yeah, he ain't going to be the MVP, though. Yeah, I'm going to Stefan Castle or Jalen Brunson for MVP. Well, Brunson is plus
Starting point is 02:04:39 210 and Weemianna is minus 190. OG is at plus 4,000 Castles at plus 4,000 Those aren't that risky Yeah, that's really not That might be a good bet That's not a crazy bet to make
Starting point is 02:04:52 Yeah But yeah Tomorrow Tomorrow my life either starts It stops That's so dramatic Yo, New Yorkers are so crazy man, I'm telling you like
Starting point is 02:05:07 Yo, it's really something wrong My life either starts or stops Oh man Anyways This was a fun episode We'll talk to you guys Shit Yo Roar
Starting point is 02:05:24 So you remember my viral story about When I was in the In the Bronx In the hallway with all the bloods Yeah of course yeah That's my man I was with Look how told this nigga Is 6 8 now
Starting point is 02:05:36 When we was fucking 12 That nigga was 6-3 I was 5'4 In the hallway with 13 bloods And this nigga Start talking crazy That's fucked up, man Yeah, man
Starting point is 02:05:48 Nick almost got us Kilt in the South Bronx and what was that? 94 Yates? Man 94 Yo listen 1994
Starting point is 02:05:57 in the South Bronx y'all ain't want to be there y'all didn't want to be No, no I agree with it I'm not going to try to convince you a lot You don't want to be in the South Bronx man but we'll talk to y'all soon be safe
Starting point is 02:06:08 be blessed I'm that nigga he's just ginger Peace It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your or a flag, whoever you root for.
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