New Rory & MAL - Episode 505 | Ali Siddiq Doesn't Give AF About Your Roast

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

One of stand-up comedy’s greatest storytellers, Ali Siddiq, drops by the pod fresh off of winning an NAACP Award for his comedy special My Two Sons. He shares some hilarious stories of growing up in Houston, prison riots, and teaching his kids how to drive. He also speaks on the Kevin Hart Roast, building rapport with his peers, and the importance of independence in the comedy space. Catch his new special, My Father, on his YouTube channel this Father’s Day, and see him live on tour at www.AliSiddiq.com. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever Bask & Lather: Use code RORYANDMAL for 20% offSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But today, Rory, we are joined by somebody who has been crowned the most prolific story. You know, you're a storyteller. Probably not to love with this gentleman. Well, not this. Yes, this gentleman is a prolific storytime. He's the best of the best when it comes to the stand-up comedy. He's currently on an international tour as well. One of the funniest guys, been watching him since probably before your time.

I was watching TV. I think Comic View. I think it's the first time I might have this gentleman years ago. So it's a pleasure to have him here in the studio today with us. Texas legend Ali Sadieke is in the building. Ali, how you feeling, brother? Good. Houston.

Oh, see, they do that in Texas. You got to make sure it's specific. Yeah, two different places. Houston legend. It's two different places. Yeah, Dallas and San Antonio, Austin. They're different cities, believe that. Totally different climate.

Different climates, different weather. Different smell, the city smell, different. Different, everything. Yeah, how are you feeling though, man? It's a pleasure to meet you, man. I'm doing great, man. Pleasure's all mine, brother. So we knew you were coming in about maybe three weeks ago,

and I was telling Rory, I was like, you listen, I've been watching Ali Sadiq for years. And I was like, you know, there's one of the guys in comedy that I think we don't talk about enough. We're going to give you two decades. Because when you said Comic View, you kind of said like it was years ago.

I was in Comedy View 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003. So if you started watching me in Comic View, goodness, gracious, that's almost the beginning of the career. Right, that's what I'm saying. I started 97. I started 97. 2000, I'm on Common View.

So you've been watching for a long time. I appreciate that. I've been tuned in. I've been tuned in, man. I've been tuned in. One of the best stand-ups, I tell people all the time,

you're one of my favorites, guys that I don't think we talk about enough in comedy. Like, every time I see your set, I catch you somewhere. I'm just like Ali is still, you know, out here kicking ass. So it is a pleasure to have you here with us today.

Thank you. Congrats on the NDACP. Appreciate it. That's major. I mean, to, to have an an year's son as well to have that award is something that's made. But how did that, when you wrote that piece,

that's standing, but did you know that that's where it was going? Like, you know that that was an award that you was going to receive? Didn't write it. I didn't write that. That's a relationship between me and my two sons. It was nothing to write besides the title. Yeah. Wow.

Yeah, because that's, you know, that's, you know, when you're doing your life, you don't have to write your life. life down. You can remember your life. And I was just, I was just given a firm account of just the relationship between me and my two sons that I probably had said them stories to my friends at the time. I just said when it's happening, you know, so me to go on stage and put it together, you know, no right, no pen, no pen needed. But it's been a couple of specials that's like that people don't know.

Like Domino Effect 2 No pen Just wrote it Did it that day They never even seen it I didn't even run it That has to be crazy Like that's

For comedian to not write Any material And just hit the state Like what's that feeling like Because you don't have no material You're going out on stage You don't know if it's going to work Even if you have it written

You don't know if it's going to work So for you to have not have anything Any material written like how that's a different level of confidence that that takes but when you're telling stories you're just telling the story

you don't have I don't I didn't have an expectation I just needed to get it off of me you know I just I needed to clinically get it off of me by saying it aloud okay you know so that's the first time my family ever heard me you know give my take on it

but I'm but I'm telling the story in chronological order from Domino effect one to two, how I'm moving, you know, and how life is moving for me at that particular time. So I know what was happening with me between 16 and 18. I know the down moment, you know, of 18, you know, when things change for me, you know what I'm saying? So with my father, I mean, with my two sons,

it's me, some of it is a, the frustrated father in me, some of it is the relishing in how different these two boys are from how I came up and seeing the difference, you know, and kind of giving an account to parents that you're not the same with your kids, you know, because you're in different spaces. You know, I'm in one space. Trey's around when I'm starting comedy and coming up, and Hassan is around when I'm straight. and he's receiving different benefits and my mentality is different you know and I'm different

as you know it's different between me being 25 and 2025 and me being 40 right you know I'm 52 now you know my my younger kids get a different benefit of me being 52 it's not that serious as it was when I was

45 you gotta do this but now at 50 you like Hey, man, you want to eat cake in the morning and eat it, man. Yeah. You know, it got all the ingredients. Got breakfast in there. Right. It's eggs in the way, right now.

Yeah. I mean, outside of, I guess, the difference between you and your age in parenting, has the environment's been different? Have you felt between your two kids? One being raised in one area, one and the other. That's a part of the growth. We live in totally different environments, you know. Like, it's, it's so, the trade, in the environment with trade, man, I probably always had a gun.

Like, always. Like, getting in out of my car with the neighborhood. You're saying, I always had a gun. Hassan is like, man, what? Like, for what? Probably get scared. You see what is Steve going to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you come in my neighborhood now, several. people have called the police on you. Right. Several. You have, it has been so many calls on you. And they, they have planned on blocking

off the neighborhood. And then you, you are not getting out of this neighborhood. No matter what street you go down, there's going to be a constable. Yeah, it's different. Yeah.

They threw the chain out on the ground. Spike strip at the game of community. The H-O-A-H-A-H-A-H-A-W-A-H-O-A-L-B You are not getting out of it. Like, why? I'm one of them, I'm one of them people now in my neighborhood. If something happened, I'm outside my own sort.

I can't believe. Exactly. We should have a spike strip. What is going on with you riot? Life is different, yeah. Like, man, it's, bro, when, if I think about how Trey and Jaden, my oldest daughter,

Jaden learned how to drive in a long expedition, at nine. You know how they start in the neighborhood, so they got all the streets down in the street signs. They don't have any houses built yet. They have sold any of the plots. So I taught how to drive in this, they were basically just the streets.

Right. And then I got out on a regular road. She nine in an expedition. Hassan started driving in a Batiga. It's too different thing. Like, yeah, you're screwed over here. Yeah, yeah. And then I'm thinking about the mindset of this.

If years ago, I would have cared. And then I remembered how long I've been rich. Like, and not just in bread in spirit. Right. You know, the richness of my being able. to walk through my neighborhoods without nothing, be able to go through any city without nothing. I'm saying, like, I tell people all the time,

I don't check in, I get checked on. Right. It was saying, somebody going to call. Like, yo, you're in the city, but what's what are you doing? It was saying, but I would have cared when I was younger if he would have wrecked his car. Yeah, about insurance was different. It was different.

If I would have had to take this car to somebody. Yeah. You know, I was saying, and put this muffler back on. I'd have thrown the muffler there in the back. Now it's like, oh, man, come pick it up. Take it to the dealership. You know, it's going to be fine. You know, because it's no, and let me clear this up about how long I've been rich.

I've been rich since 88. Hmm. Now, that was illegal. You know, how it was acquired. Right. Now, now, now. It's different. You know, I don't have to bury none of this.

Right. I don't have to stash none of this anyway You know I had to put this on my cousin's crib You put this in your attic It was that And so it's a This money now

Is definitely deposited The rest of the money It was in pillowcases Where it was at Yeah You know how And this is I'll tell what dudes Was in the streets back then

Because the dudes That tell me stories about Having money And putting their bags And then Oh I'm just I'm just running yo, this is where the lie come in at.

Because it's easy to believe if you don't know how heavy money is. Right. If you put, if you put $30,000 in five, tens, and 20s in a pillowcase and just tell me just you just feel and just run down the street. And it's saying, like, go ahead and do it.

Put $100,000 in two-pillade and tied around your neck and you tell me that you just straight. You ain't got no wobble for your run. You just easily jogging, not out of breath. Nothing, nothing. Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know the difference. Somebody lied. You, I did, you know, because how that money, dirty money used to come, it's ones, five, pens. Yeah. It's not no crisp hundreds and 50. Yeah. You're right. Oh, so all, yo, you had high class.

Yeah. Oh, crackheads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. New money. Yeah. It's like, no, this money was bald. up. When you sell it,

when we were selling a door back then, I literally took money from somebody who pulled money out his draw. Like, you know,

how much more you say, like, yo man, keep it, man, keep it, keep it.

Keep it. And then my man was like, you know, that's how he'd be getting away with that. You've got to. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. Take it. He knows he know you ain't going to want it. Yeah. I'm bawling to him. So now, now, now, you look at it and you look at your kids now and if something happens,

but it's not just my kids. I think people don't realize how they have elevated, you know, because we have a lot of ungrateful children that complain about you on the internet, but the point is it's on $1,000 phones that you bought them. I can't think of nothing between, combined, between me and my older sisters

that my mom would spend $1,000 on us combined. combined, like over the years. Every time I take a photo my daughter on a plane, it's not for the memories. So she could never say she got it out of the mud. I don't want to hear it once. Get it out the mud. Like, it is in power.

You're in first class right now. Like, yo, I was, my mom was flying those places when you can still smoke. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Like, literally, and they serve real food. Yeah. Like, I remember having a leg quarter. And peas and carrots,

matches, and coach. They used to come down. I was like, and they had all these meals and saying, but you next to some dude named, but Fonar, but you're a whole kid. Yeah, yeah, right in your way. Yeah. You're going to eat them.

You know, like, and they had ashtrays in the arm race. I was just selling them that a few months ago. I said, I remember being on a plane and people smoking. I remember that. Yeah. I'm talking about smoking. I was talking about cool for the kings. Yeah.

Or camels with no, no filter. Like, he ain't got no filter on the joint. But now. And the pilot's coming down smoking. You know that he's sleeping with all the flight attendants. There's thing. There's ain't no way you and Sarah supposed to come out of this restaurant together.

The idea of someone lighting a lighter in a plane is the craziest shit in the world to me. I'm, what? Hey, what's crazy is I'm more amazed by them having lighters because I didn't grow up like that. And I grew up with people smoking. in the late 70s, it's like people who smoked cigarettes

never had lighters or matches. You had to light the cigarettes on the stove. Yeah. It was in. And they would send you as a child to light a cigarette. And when you light a cigarette on a store, you got to roll it,

and then you got to pull a little bit. Yeah, yeah. You didn't lit three cigarettes. You really in the kitchen smoking. Like, and six. You're like, you like, you like, you know how to. I was like, you know how to. You're like, I don't know if.

I don't know if this. It's meant, but I just know he was supposed to do it. Like, like, they didn't, like, they wouldn't already rolled in the box. This is how you pack it in. They already rolled. Yeah, yeah, that's the flavor, yeah. And this is when you, you would be an adult events,

but you had a job. You was there as, you know, I understand why Martin Luther King says, if we lose the service industry, we lose everything. That's one of his speeches. Yeah. Now, I've been with my family in a servitude manner for years. You know, my mom

and them playing cards, yo, I'm there. You know what I'm saying? My job is to light cigarettes, bring ice, pour crown roll. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Bring a Coke. Now, I've been mixing drinks for a long time in the kitchen. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Tasting it. Get that mixed right. It's even.

Yeah, you know, this is back when they were drinking, what was the champagne that they used to drink? It was a charonet. It was a strawberry charonet. It was a strawberry charonet. It had a, no.

No, not Booms Farm. This is, Booms Farm came in my time. Yeah. You know, this was like a sham pipple. Yeah. I think Fred Sanford used to talk about all the time. But you actually knew that, like, they had ripple. You were hearing these drinks.

You'd be like, yo, I know what that is. Yeah. I know what that is. I drink that before, yeah. Boone was, that was my era. I remember the first time I ever drank Boones Farm. Yeah. It was in the summer in Houston.

And this is when you learned that liquor and heat don't mix. You rather people be drinking and it's a cool environment. Right. But if it's liquor, bro, we're just this park called Herman Park. Yeah. And I'm full of Bulls farm. I'm so full of Bulls farm. Like, I'm full of Bulls for him.

Yeah. And then it also was Jubilee, Mad Dog 20-20. So we sitting, and we had it in a cooler, me and this guy named Mario. and we we just it's a brawl it's literally a brawl having it in the park people fighting everywhere but we sitting under a tree sitting on top of the cooler commentating the fight as we're so drunk if somebody would came with and punched us they would knock both of us out just by hitting one of it like we were so drunk but we sit on that cooler we lean up his thing we're like well y'all running that's my first I my first thought of ever being a drunk dude like in the street corner like with people would say things just random say things I was was that dude in the park. Now I'm that person now. Yeah, yeah.

And I remember we drove home. We was so lit. And Mario dropped me off. And I tried to walk in the house like I wasn't drunk. And it's like my mom and my stepdad was in the front. Yeah. In the front of the house. And I, bro, let me tell you all, get y'all the tip out there, young people.

If you drunk, don't try to hold your eyes open wide because you look just more drunk. I'm walking. I'm in there like, hey, y'all, you're all good. and I'm slurring my and my son's like, what? Drunky? Yeah, yeah. I was mixing your drinks.

It's like in my mind, like, I am not drunk because my eyes overwired. They're like, yo, you are so drunk. You are so drunk. We know that move right there. Like, I don't even know why you even think and you smell drunk.

Right. Like, that's the whole thing. Mints don't cut through bone foam. No. No. No, it comes out your pores. You're sweating that out. You're breathing out your nostrils.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless you're going to put vix in your nose, you drunk, bro. That's your friend. You got your eyes. Because you got your eyes. That's crazy. When I think about my years of, you know, I was going in 19s, I got to think of everything. And I hate, I hate, because people remember, I am reminded that I was gone for years all the time

when somebody who tried to bring up something. You remember in 93 when such and such came out That's how you feel Yeah I was locked up I was in size That's what you You want You know I was gone since 91 Yeah

But you want to bring up something that happened in 94 Like I was there Yeah I don't know I never saw When I saw Puck He was with digital underground That's my only

Recollection of him Yeah When I met him He was a dancer And I met him with Money B in the elevator in Houston Okay And I'm already in the streets.

So this is not a street guy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's background dancing. You missed all of that. I was, so when I was inside, I would hear about the street person.

I was like, no, I met young. Yeah. I met young. But people get mad at me when I say that, but I'm already in the streets. Yeah. So why would I think that he was a street dude and I'm already in the streets?

And I know I like Brenda had a baby. Right. So I'm not, I'm not correlating this. Yeah. But I never saw a Biggie. Yeah. Both of them died. 97, you got out, right?

Yeah, I got out 97. So what was the difference between Rapalot before and after? Man, you know, you had mine playing, take show, and all of that. Rapalot wasn't an empire just yet in 91. You know, you had face and you had the ghetto boys, you know? At that time, I didn't even know. either of the three. Yeah.

I'm saying? But I knew bun, you know what I didn't know C. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So it wasn't a road zero yet. It wasn't a slim thug yet or a Beakin get in or a little Kiki.

They wasn't there yet. You know, so when I'm leaving, you know, in 91, you had this guy named Born Twice that, you know, a royal flush that I was jamming. these guys. You got to think the year,

what was happening in 91? Yeah. Versus, you know, that's the difference between me, the music scene. The music scene had changed dramatic. I remember I was on the bus, right?

Getting transfer somewhere. And this is one of the funniest things to me ever when I was locked up. So this dude, he on the bus singing. And the dude next to me, I'm like, and I've been locked up for a while. I'm like, yo, man, you get money back there?

He's jamming, bro. He wastesing his life in his prison. But he's singing the Fugees. And he back there, drum me my pain. Like, he back there jamming. I have no idea that this is the Fugees. I'm thinking this is a song he'd have made up. I'm like, yo, my man back there one time.

One back there. Jamming. I'm like, yo, oh, my man is wasting his life. It's saying, like, bro. This could be a number one record, I feel like. And I think that I told him, like, yo, man, when you get out of here, bro, you just sing, bro. Two times.

And I'm like, and I'm thinking that this is this dude's song, man. Until I get to a unit and I get a radio and I finally hear this. I'm like, I mean, I was working in the front. And this song that I was jamming every day And I thought this was the coldest song in the world And I never knew Celine Dion was white I was like, yo, this black lady is jammed men But it's just the song

That I don't have no video I'm just like If she ain't come on Kailinthay I ain't a little girl Calli Entente Boy I'm telling you that's a When you locked up that show right there is soft porn.

Bro, you don't understand. Kyle anything was like, yo, I'm not missing. I'm not missing Kyle anything. And Denise Austin is no way in the world. I'm missing Denise Austin in the morning doing these aerobics. With these full... This is why I like a full bathing suit to this day.

Yeah, yeah. Denise Austin. A full bathing suit is crazy to me. I'm like, but you, if you weren't... If you want to be attracted, if I'm attracted to you and you want to be, you got a full bagelsuit on. I'm like, that is the one. I don't get that one with a little bikini.

Yeah, yeah. I need you with a full baser with your whole hip out. You love a Sears catalog. Man, come on. Yeah, yeah. Come on. You know, more moms need to wear full bases. I agree with you.

Stop. I don't want to see. I don't want to see your scene section. I want to see you in a full basis. Put that Denise Austin baby suit on, man. With that Denise Austin on, I'm telling you. Yeah. You're going to get some small chains.

for men and some leotards. I'm with it. Soft Reeboks. In short, can you explain to more what the Mexicans

have boots on? Yeah, he was telling me about that. I didn't catch that one. Oh, you never seen that on, that's one

of the more popular joints. That wasn't when I was on Comedy Central. Yeah, I didn't catch that one. But Rory was telling me about it. The, the situation

is less important to the career than the actual show. Okay. Because the actual show kind of put me in this light to where I could actually do what I actually do. So I'm, um,

I win this, um, competition with Comedy Central. Comedy Central's comic to watch, 2013, right? Okay. So what comes with that, you hit, you get a special, get an album, and then you get up to appear on one of the Comedy Central shows. So this, um,

they was trying to, put me on Adams Playhouse or whatever that is. Adam Devon's Playhouse. I was like, nah, I ain't really like that show. They offered me another show. I'm like, nah, I'm cool on that. And then Chase DeRousseau, this younger comic, he said, yo, man, you might want to go on

this show that that's on the internet that they're going to bring from the internet to Comedy Central, which is this is not happening. It's a storytelling show, Aris your film, right? So I'll see the show. I'm like, yo, this show is the one. You know, because it's comics get on there and they tell stories, you know, long stories.

Yeah. So I get, I say, could I get on this show? Mm-hmm. Get on that show. And then I'm going through the stories that I'm going to tell. And I'm looking at how everybody else is telling these stories. I'm like, I pivot last minute. Okay.

Like, I'm about to tell another story. And I said, you know something? I'm going to do the prison riot. Mm-hmm. And so I do prison ride, but inside the prison ride, it is a, it's a very juvenile account, like how green I am to how prison life works. It's not the county, it's not a good facility. This is how prison life works, and you don't know everything.

Right. So to go to prison and think that you're going to make it out and you all good is very juvenile. now because you don't know what's happening all the time. So I'm getting ready to go to necessities to get my clothes. And as I'm going, this dude say, yo, you heard? And I'm like, heard what? He said, Mexican got on boots. I don't know what this mean at all.

To speed the story up, I get this like three times. Even when I get to the laundry, dude, like, yo, man, go on get back inside. Mexican got on boots. I have no idea what this means. So when I get to my sale, my cellie is Mexican. Okay. And I'm like,

yo, Alvarez, apparently your people have on boots. What's that mean? He's like, you know what I mean? We're going to stab a bunch of black dudes. On the wreckyard. I'm like,

what? Yeah, you're going to stop a bunch of black dudes. I'm like, this is a celly. And more, this is my scared straight. I was like, I'm never going to prison after you. Like, yo, Alvarez, man. Like, what was that about?

He's like, yo, on the rec yard is going to be a race ride. And you stick with your race, you know. I say, Alvarez, you would stab me? We just finished eating together. And he's like, yeah, if you was on the record. I'm like, what? And then my boy, Mitch, he came to myself. And he was like, yo, do me,

at you real quick. He looked at that I've read. Yeah. He out of you real quick. I said, what's up? You said, yo, you heard, right? I said, what? The missing got on boot. He's going dying. You ain't ever been no riot before. It was saying. I said, no, this is my first time here. Like, what you're talking about? There's been no riot.

He's like, let me come to myself and show you how to this get out. First of all, you're going to have to get you a knife. Like, are they selling me in someone? Wait, man, what's happening? What is happening? Get yours an outdoor. You think like I can just go to the comic and it's just happening.

And it's a, you got to see the story. It's a whole thing that's jumping off. Yeah. And you don't, you don't know this is jumping off. And I ain't going to spoil it for you, but I got, you got to see all the rest of this setup, but I got cut. And when I got cut, Mitch was next to me. I said, Mitch,

He ain't even have on boots. And he's talking about they sneaky like that. It's like, you didn't, you just told me all this other stuff. But you ain't tell me. I'm looking for the boots. I'm looking for the boots, yo. So he's got on boots. He didn't even have a lot of books.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you see it, there's more stuff in there. But the fact that that man didn't have on boots and I got stabbed. I was like, yo, man, you suck, man. Like, you, you, you're like, but you gave me all the rest of this advice. Yeah, yeah. But you didn't say that part. That's an important part.

They may not. They may not have a boost for still watching. But they're on the wreck, y'all. Did you pass on that knowledge to maybe somebody else that was a rookie when you were a couple years in? Like, look for the boo. Man, when we, any time that we was having a riot, I would drive to school. People would say, hey, yo, man, you got to look at the signs. Yeah.

of how they work. There's a lot of dudes, man, that didn't make things because of not keeping the signs. Yeah. And like, yo, brother, this is a dangerous place. And this is not... I try to explain the youngsters now.

There's you in the streets. I get it. But I don't because it's so much other stuff that you can be doing. It's too many ways to make money. It was ways to make money then. Right. I was saying it's like,

my man who was becoming an electrician at the time, he's totally different. I look at him totally different. You know, he's like 14. You know, you're only going to be an electrician. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, y'all'm going to be in the streets. And he's like, okay.

And then you look at his life versus yours. And you see why he owns an electrical company. He makes all his bread. And it's so many things to do. Right. You know, even if you come from the hood, you can't give the hood this bad, this bad frame of mind or put people in this bad frame of mind about the hood. Like it's like everybody in the hood is doing criminal activity. It's people in the hood that's doing other things.

There's people trying to become plumbers. There's people who are carrying mail. There's people doing a lot of other things. It's not one option to make bread. And if you choose an easy route, that's, this. different than somebody choosing a route that's going to have some more legs to it versus what you're doing. Right. But we get caught up in the sensationalism of the bad guy is the person.

I want to be like the bad guy, you know. But I didn't get that from the movies. Like, my pop sold powdered cocaine. He was saying it was no crack when he was doing. And he was selling this to attorneys. So my dad had a carrier service downtown a respectable thing. And he started with him and his friend, and he was giving powder cocaine to people who wanted it at the time.

You know, it's no different than what it was. Studio 54, whatever it was. People wouldn't, everybody was doing cocaine at this time. It seemed, you know, and because the BGs was definitely doing cocaine with them outfits. One thousand percent. What are you to inspire the music? You're like, yo, I know for fact. You get that by the way.

You definitely One of my favorite groups Oh absolutely You know what's crazy Somebody asked me about Man how terrible was heroin And I was like But we got a lot of good music out of heroin

You know One thousand Some of the best Definitely good music Definitely did And I say I say if you go back then And you go current

Like I love Nirvana You know And I definitely Love red hot chili peppers I was like yo They are definitely On drugs but then when you think about this song

hello hello hello I'm like yo he's yo who who is writing this song that's not high yeah like this how you start off a song I'm gonna say hello yeah yeah hello hello hello hello is anybody

in there but not if I can see. No, it's going to be a classic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Pink Floyd. Nothing says sobriety about that. You know, I have become comfortably numb. Come on, Pink Floyd.

Right. But so I don't, can I say that it was, I don't think it's a lot of sober people writing great songs. Yeah. But Promethezine, I think, was the last, last great drug of music. You're talking about, sir. The last one.

Because now fentanyl makes terrible music. These kids on fent make the worst fucking music ever. And pills make awful music. Syrup is a form of it. But you got to understand how, first of all, it's amazing that you completed a song when you own syrup. Y'all don't understand. This is something that started in Houston.

We're not talking about the rest of the tech. We're talking about in Houston. Right. Southside. Right. when you would see somebody, you thought, you thought they were sleep.

You thought they were sleep. And they are in traffic. And that man does not have park on. That man is in drive. Yeah, yeah. And he, and then you come, yo, buddy.

And he's like, what's up, buddy, you're good? Yeah. Like, how do you finish a song with a cup of lean? Yeah. You know what I just, I just know it's,

First of all, shout out to the genius of doing it. Because, bro, I've never did syrup. But I have done this. I said, I'm going to take three caps of NyQuil. Yeah. And I'm going to try to write something. And you know what was on that paper? Your pillow.

Hello. Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. Like, man, you got to be. That's why chopping the screw makes so much sense. You got to slow that shit down. They got so down to rehear, I mean, replay what I said. Right. And stretch that shit off.

I've listened to, like, and I don't think chopping screw makes sense when it's going at regular speed. No. It's like, but the, um. That's a syrup talking. It's a classic, man. June 27th is a classic. It's like, these are songs that. if you're in Houston,

you have to know. It's like you, like, because you're gonna feel, you're gonna feel crazy if you're in a club in June 27, come on,

and some of the prettiest women. Yeah. And some of the most well-dressed dudes, everybody, hey, hey, hey, you're like,

you're like, what's going on? But that June 27th is crazy. Mm-hmm. Pimping the pen. Oh, man. um, tops drop.

It, man, it's about maybe 30, 40 songs that you gotta know to live in Houston. DMD, DMD got one

the coldest ones, man, 25 lads on my dresser. But, but, um, what's my junk by him that I love?

Um, moving big way. Um, what is it? 258. It was at 258. it should be an anthem for people who hustle. And I'm talking about in any capacity.

Right. Whether it's your podcast, whether it's your, whatever you're doing, 258. That man say he worked 258. He got to hustle like he's moving big weight. He just 25 hours a day, eight days a week is how he's doing his business. And that's a big song for me. When I'm getting ready to do something, I'm going to put on 25, 8, because that's how my mentality is, you know, that I'm working this hard, you know,

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Now, you preach independence a lot. All day. That's like a big thing for you. As a comic and a legend in this space, how important is independence, like now more than ever? It's like Prince, man. You want to own your own catalog. You want to own your own stuff. if you don't want somebody to be able to put out things on you

that you have no power on how the money has been broken up or how it's even being distributed, how it's being put out there, the light that you put yourself in. So my thing was I had to save up my bread to start doing my own thing. You know, it's kind of like going back to when I was hustling. I don't want to work for nobody.

You know, I don't want to be on consignment. I just want to buy my own. my stuff and break it down and make what I make, you know, without, you know, a middleman. So with me doing the specials and constantly putting it out and being able to clip it up and being able to put it in other spaces that I want it and have some type of power of where it's going and what my kids and passing this down to my kids, my kids I have total control of my whole entire catalog, the albums and the specials. I'm saying?

The books, you know, it won't be. they have to go talk to somebody or they had to break their bread up. You know, you just keep the legacy going and then you straight. But, you know, you had these people who were fighting for their catalog. Yeah. Right. You know, no knock on Mike Jack

when he did it, but just thank you to Beatles and somebody buy your catalog. You know, like, it's like me buying a bunch of guys specials. And then they still having to work with me. And then no matter what you do, I'm still making the bread. I would hate that.

So how that started was I did the special with Comedy Central, 2018. I put a clip of it up and got copyrighted French for my own. Of your own shit. I can't even promote my own stuff. Yeah. And so when we called, I think this is a, you know, sometimes when you hear what you want to hear, I hear what needed to be said to me, but I needed to hear. We own it.

And I took that as if they owned me. And I was like, well, nobody ever be able to do this again. Right. You know, and even the album that I put out with them, when I got the album back after so many years of them having it, I got the album back. And now it's back in my catalog. So I'm still waiting to buy the special back bigger than these bars.

But now Comedy Central and sold the Paramount. Paramount sold it to this person. So who knows when I'm going to get that back? Does comedy work in the same publishing of like after 30 years you could get it back? How does comedy publishing work? I don't know because my deals had a certain amount of time that I was getting it back. So I didn't know how record. I didn't know record had 30 years.

I just know that I had 10 this or I had the deal. I get it back, a percentage of it back, when I recovered. coop. Yeah. When they were cooped, okay? But, bro, that,

you know how crazy it is when you, when they come to tell you, they spend $400,000 in lights. I've been there, I've been there. Specific number, too. When am I going to, it's weird that you landed on that number?

When am I going to poop this back? And we just talking about lights. Yeah, we're talking about nothing else. We just talking about lights. At a venue that had them. and you was like oh

you know and then I can kind of believe because I shot this one inside of a prison so they had to bring everything in okay got you but this is the thing but 400,000

and then my mind like so you don't know nobody who did this to you like not one single person man and then you say it's kind of like

when you get married and they get a wedding planner they say hey man this $5,000 for a wedding planner I plan on your surprise birthday party like five of them

and everybody had an amazing why can I not plan this wedding? Like this don't even make sense to me I'm not paying and then the wedding planner come ask you what you want to eat everything for $5,000 you should know

you should be telekinesic I should walk in and be like oh a unicorn ice coacher I don't know how we wanted that I like it and glad it's it and champagne is running down to keep the champagne call.

Like, you were supposed to don't ask me nothing. Once I pay you $5,000, I don't ask me nothing. Right, right. But when you, bro,

when they were, they tell you that they're 400,000 dollars in lights. Yeah. And you was like, yo, did y'all leave them on? Like,

after I left, where they still on? Like, hey, man, what? Are they still in the prison? Like, yo,

what was I doing? I mean, let me see this special I can see this uplighting. I need to re-see it to see where because now I do production and I've never charged my 400,000.

It's like I would never do a special if it was 400,000 dollars in it. And I've done some amazing lighten things with specials. 400,000? Yeah.

And because I did $400,000. is in my mind when Jordan the light guy comes to me and saying, hey, you know, I think that we should do this with the more nights going to cost another, you know, $12,000. I'm like, do it.

Yeah. It's not $400. $400.000. And like, yo, so the total for lights, we were, we spend, when we spend on the lights? Okay, I'm like, okay, I'll take that. Yeah. $10,000, you know, they didn't have a bub in here

from all these lights. Yeah. And I got them. Like, these lights are in my garage. Yeah. Like, I know, like, and then I can't wait to, I get this spot all the way done. So I have, I got all the specials, the outfits that I wanted these specials. Okay.

I got them framed. Okay. And with a little thing inside of what they were from. I can't wait to start going through this museum and like, yo, you see these lights right in? These were. This is the best lit museum that you could be in. See, these lights are real. Yeah.

I'm going to go through all the light and stuff. You know what I'm saying? You don't know why I was at in this space with this light right in. Particularly this one. This one in particular. This one is the sun. That's how much it costs. No,

I've talked to artists where they'll have $150,000 on marketing of an album no one heard. And they're sitting there like, wait, wait, wait, y'all didn't even clear this with me. And I got to recoup $150,000 on an album that nobody heard. And what do we market? Right. Right. Who did you market this too? Mm-hmm.

Yo, I remember my first publicist, and it didn't last long because I think she was putting me in a different space. Like, she was a publicist for some rock artists and some other people. It's just like, we had a conversation, and the trial was over. Like, she gave me a one-month trial. But we never really just said, oh, I'll get one more trial. We gave me one more trial, right? And then the next month, she was like, so, yeah, I'm going to be $10,000 a month. I said, what?

At the time, I'm just now getting the, I'm just now taking the what other comics wouldn't take was the off weekends. Okay. Like the worst weekends in the club. Yeah. I'm taking those weekends. Mm-hmm. And I'm getting, what, maybe $2,000 for the weekend, you know, hotel and travel.

But I'm going to do it. I'm like, yo, that's going to lead into some other things. Yeah. They're paping half the room. People don't know it because I'm in Utah and Idaho. They know me. Right. But it's a Thanksgiving weekend.

Right. You know. Everybody with their family. Anybody go to a damn coffee club. And like Halloween. Halloween is awful. Yeah. And then I'm taking it.

I'm doing it. I'm doing what, what else? What else? You got the summer? Taking it. Taking the summer in Minnesota. They don't get out. They're going to get in the winter.

What day is the Super Bowl? I'll take that day. Yeah, taking it. Super Bowl weekend? Taking it. Definitely. Everybody don't watch football. And when that lady said 10,000 hours, I was like,

yo, what do you got going on? Like, who you talking to? And I got another published, right, that they got me, this time I'm popping. So, and I'm using comedies, I was coming off of Comedy Central's publicist. So I'm like, ha. Then I did another show with NBC, and I had their publicist, and I don't NBC bring the funny. So their publicist is booking out of the stuff for me.

Now they're gone, because the show's over. And, man, this dude booked me. It's, and okay, man, I get it. but the parties are not, you get me invited to parties and benefits. But this is not, Magic Johnson's wife is not telling anybody to go see me because she saw me at the party.

Yeah. What? And it's like, it was astronomical. I paid it for like three months and I was like, yeah, I'm not, I'm, because it was three months,

like you had to do three months. I'm like, yeah. Never again. So now I just, I want to get the best results for the money that I'm spending, but I always go back to this. $400,000, like, is not. That's the North Star right there.

It's like, yo, I'm, what were you doing? Like, this is like, this, did y'all use something they used to make us think they went to the moon? That was definitely cheaper than $400,000. Yeah, they did it because it's like, Houston, we used. have a problem. When the light went out. No, Ali got all the lights. The moon lit light is going.

Man, it's crazy. What did you think of? That's Times Square. Definitely. No, that's a fact. $400,000 in light. It's time square. Billboard's a cheaper.

That's like, that's like who I just saw, what's the lady, the Hispanic lady name, Sierra, such a, whatever I name here. I just saw on the billboard. Shakira? Shakira. She looked amazing on that billboard. Cheaper than 400,000.

Definitely. 100,000. What did you think of the Kevin Harrost? Didn't watch it. Okay. Did you see any of the reactions? Like the mixed reviews? I've heard, but I know that's a hot topic.

But people are amazed that I didn't watch it. I'm like, why? Yeah. I said, that's crazy. I said, between me and Ben Stella, do you think Ben watched it? It's like, well, you're not being. I said, you don't know who I am. Right.

Obviously, I don't, I had no expectations on watching it. I know Kev, but I'm not going to watch a Hollywood roast either. Okay. This is a Hollywood thing. This is a, this is a TV show. This is not a roast. It's named that. What you mean by that?

Yeah, what's the different thing I kind of, because I watched all the Comedy Central roast as a kid, and I saw the Tom Brady one and the Kev Hart one. I was at the time, Brady one. But this is a show. This is not classic roast from when I was watching at the Fries Club. Oh, yeah. When I was watching friends.

Yeah, this ain't that. Talk to each other. Gotcha, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm watching friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm getting an inside privy to friends talking. Right. And so watching that versus what it is,

what has become, It's two different things. If I'm getting roasted and I look on the, I look on the panel, there's a bunch of people that I don't have no real relationships with. Relationships with. I ain't spent no time with these people. These people don't know me intimately.

They know, you may, you can know me industry, but you don't know me intimately. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's comics that I run into. Say I ran into you 15 times. We talk. We know.

each other, we're on the same show, but we don't know each other. So I can't say what you would or you would not do. I don't even have anything intimate to say about you. Because I've just ran into you. Man, I ran into Babyface Brother too. I don't know him. I just know after seven. I don't know him.

But I also have ran into Montel Jordan. And me and Monta... I know Montel Jordan a little more than I know Babyface's brother. Why? Because I still call it a babyface's brother. Right. I interviewed Montel Jordan

as when I was doing radio. You know, I interviewed Cisco. You know what I'm saying? But if you ask me, what's my relationship between Donnell Rollins and, say, like, a Godfrey? No Godfrey. Yeah.

Donnell, I always talk about when he, he always talk about I don't mess with him. Like, every time Donnell, I know you don't mess with me. Like, Donnell, why you say this? Because I would come to the radio and you wouldn't be there.

It's Friday, Donnell, I'm on the road. You're on the radio to promote your show that night. You're on doing the show. Talk to the co-hosts. Darnel, it's crazy. Yeah. But Godfrey, I know Godfrey. But even more than I know Godfrey,

I know D.L. You know, I know Diel person, this is my mentor. So if he's getting roasted, I would be there. You know what I'm saying? And I would be part of the people. And I'm going to say something personally. If I'm getting roasted, D.L's going to come and say, I already know that. I already know, I know the story that he's going to say.

Yeah. Like I already know, I could just be, the people who I would be, that would be roasting me, I'll be sitting there like, I already know what they're going to say. I know. And I'm writing my comeback. in my head as they're doing it. But, man, what am I going to do with when I look across and

Shane Gillis is over there? I don't know, Shane. But. At all. But Kev has a relationship with him, no? Does he? I don't know. Does he have a...

I don't know. I don't know who he has a relationship with, but I don't think that... I've never heard you talk about Tony Henscliffe. True. And then the other thing is the Roast is not just

about Kevin. It's other people saying that Cheryl don't have a relationship with him. Really? I was under the impression. I thought they knew each other. And Chelsea Hanlon didn't Kevin started with her.

You used to work with Chelsea. What is the relationship between Cheryl and Tony Hinchcliff and any of them people? Oh, that I agree. This is what I'm talking about. The whole scheme of it. I'm talking specifically to cash.

Okay, okay. I'm talking about the whole scheme. What is the relationship between the people that's on the panel with each other? Because this is what the roast was like when you was coming up. Everybody on here knew each other. These are friends. Yeah, got you. That know personal things about each other.

Right. Now, you can't say nothing about me and I don't know you. Yeah, right. If I'm not even if I'm not the person that's the host, that's the main person. I'm sitting there and then you say something about me. I'm like, what? Yeah, I don't even know this dude. we don't have to talk about this afterwards.

Yeah. And I'm not even going to laugh while we're there. Right. The camera were paying me. I'd be like this. Yeah. Again, I don't know. What?

I, it'll be a lot of eyes. I'd be like, all right. Word. This would be the first row. They were like, we ain't concerned about the host. We're talking about this person. Like, Ali is insane. He's the only one talking about you.

Yeah, word, I. Bet that. We'll see it about it. Yeah. It's like, it's like, I'm, I'm being wilding. Yeah. Like, because I don't know you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If it's somebody that's saying something about me that I know, then I'm cool. But that's the thing. I didn't watch. So I really don't have an in-depth take on and outside of this is a show versus the growing up. Growing up in school and people sitting on the back of the bus and everybody talking about each other. Yeah. Which was called roasting.

Right. You know what I'm saying? So. It's different now for sure. It's a different. Like Red Fox's roast versus, man, it's totally different. Everybody knows each other on this thing. Yeah, yeah.

So it's fair game. Everybody has spent time with each other. And that's the difference. So whatever happened, whatever was said, and people clearing. It is, in my mind, I know people, what's the intimate relationship between, I don't even know the whole panel.

I just know it was something said about Shane Gillers, something said about Tony Henscliffe, and I don't know the rest of the dynamics of it. Everybody up there was pretty much people. He's either worked with him movies. Regina Hall obviously worked with movies. Naimland, he writes with him. Yeah, I know Naim.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So Naim is, yeah. Yeah. What you mean? Yeah. That, you know, that. So.

Rock, obviously, personal relationship. So I wrote a book, right? I wrote a book. And I wrote about the 13 things, the 13 steps that helped me get to where I'm at. It was just called Applied Advice. I wrote the book about the 13 pieces of advice that was given to me from 13 people that I know. So if those people Roasted me

These are the people who gave me advice I'm gonna be personal When it comes to Cheryl You say something about Cheryl Right Because Cheryl gave me some great advice And she's in the book I'm gonna take it personal

If you say something about Bruce Bruce I'm gonna take it personal You say something about Bill Bellamy You say something about DL You say something about Dick Gregory You know what I'm saying You say something about these people I'm gonna take this personal

because these are people who gave me, who poured into me as a young comic. I'm not going to take it personal if you say something about Darnel. Right. I like Darnel, but I don't know Darnel enough to defend Darnel or take something personal. Right, got you what I'm saying? But I wouldn't let you just talk about him. And they're like, oh, do you know, I would ask, do you know him? Mm-hmm.

You know, I don't know that to be true about him. Like, even with his comedy, when I heard, like, it was a whole thing about his comedy being me. I think Dornel is funny. That's me, though. Yeah, for sure. But how many times have I went and seen Darnel do stand up? I'm judging Darnel from the Comic View appearances and his movie appearances and the Chappelle show. Yeah.

I'm not judging his live show. I've never seen Darnel live. And due to the fact that we both working. Right. Yeah. I'm saying. I've never seen Martin live. But the Martin show I'm connected to and it's specials, you know,

but I'm going to take it personal. You say something about Martin. Because I take it personal when it comes to any of the icons. Yeah. I'm going to take it just as personal. You say something about Don Rickles or Carol Bennett. And then like, where you, because I want to know where you're,

where you coming from with this. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? When you don't, if you don't, especially if you don't know. Mm-hmm. Because comedy is a personal thing to me. Not your, I think that some people nowadays get it mixed up when you talk about giving people the title of greats. And they give you that title now based upon movies and sitcoms.

Mm-hmm. But not your actual stand-up. Right. You know what I'm saying? Is there's certain people that are. are great comedic actors. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't put them in stand-up, though.

Of course, yeah. Yeah, it's a different part of the brain. Yeah. It's a different sport in my thing. Because you did a funny role in a movie doesn't make you a great stand-up. Not at a little. Right.

But some people think, well, you did all this. So your movie appearances has no bearing on your stand-up. Just like that has no bearing on if you're a good person. Mm-hmm. See, that's the thing. saying just because you play you're a good basketball player, a football player, or actor doesn't mean that you're a good person, that you're a stand-up man. Right.

And I think that people get this misconstrued. And they think that, oh, I like him on this. That doesn't mean that you would like him in real life. You know what I cussed out Chuck Willery. Chuck Willery. What did Chuck Woolery? Wow, sentence. That sentence in itself.

You got waiting for the special conflict. In conflict, man, I got, and I got it. And I think because I made it right, I'm going to do the special conflict. Because I got into it with all these people. But I apologize when I was wrong. And when I cussed out Patrick, you in a luggage store in Houston. because he didn't want to take a picture. Like I'm, and I'm taking this personal.

I'm like, yo, bro, I bought them big space booths that you, like I had like four, five pair of them, bro, with the 33 on the back. I was tight. You know what? Like, I was tight about it, bro. Yeah. And it's been some instances, man, where I have been, I'm going to say something, I didn't probably been, like to this day,

I don't mess with Fantasia. Like, I don't listen to music. People say something about it. I don't know. I ain't got nothing to do with Fentat. What happened to you? Why you don't get big on literacy? So I take my daughter, my daughter is like 12.

Okay. I take her to a Fantasia concert. Mm-hmm. And, man, we had the show. And not only as she had the Fantasia wrong, I'm, I did 45 minutes to open up the show. Okay. The thing says Ali's Dick and Fantasia. Yeah.

Got you. You know what I'm saying? So. I missed those days, by the way, when they would pair comedians and musicians. So just by right, would you think that, say me and you do a show together? By right, do you think I would, I would take a picture with your child? For sure. 100%.

Just by right. Yeah. Okay. We're on the marquee together. So, man, I'm waiting and I'm letting people go in. we in this secluded area at the arena theater and I'm waiting and then my daughters are here

I mean it's my daughter and her friend and she's just waiting to take a picture with Fantasia man then the security guy come out and like yeah no more pictures I'm like what so man it's my daughter yeah no yeah no more pictures and bro I am trying to keep it

together. And I know that I'm not wrong because my, my daughter's mother was like, and she was shaking the head like, nah, this going to go bad. And I'm like, yo, just, you know, take, take my shoddy. And the owner, the arena and the promoter is seeing, because they know me, they're like, Yo. Yeah. This is not. This is not going. Yeah.

Yo, and I'm, you know, I'm like, mm. Yo. Say, bro. Um. Yeah, bro. Y'all got a couple of minutes to get out of here, bro. And I am, bro. I'm a ticking time bomb.

Yeah. And I don't think they realize like, bro. I don't know if you know, brother, this is, this is going to go bad, bro. Yeah. Because I feel like you play in my daughter. Right. So my daughter, you know, he's 27 now.

We don't even talk, we don't want to talk about. I ain't mess with a Fantasia's sense. And then my brain works like this. Even though I probably never listen to your music again, I never do nothing with you, I still think, well, maybe it was just a bouncer. Yeah, maybe she didn't even know. Maybe you was in there doing something and you, whatever.

You know, but the people that surround you, like my people, hey, man, don't send nobody away without talking to me. Right. Right. Because, see, that's going to always come back on me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So it made me a more focused artist that I would rather it be said by me or me come out. or, you know, like, I smoke a pipe sometimes. There's a tobacco pipe.

Let me brush my tea first, you know, before I come out and meet a kid. You know, I'm concerned about no dope, but let me, you know, so I'm not going to be drunk or nothing like that. So I don't know what you was back there doing, but it gives me a different understanding, but I still, to this day, I don't listen. And I don't even say nothing bad.

I just don't listen. I don't rock with it because it still happened. Yeah. You know, and as an artist, you had to be responsible for your team. You know, just like when you go to a comedy club and you got all these people that's with you or you on a tour, you got all these people with you, if they trash that green room. That's on you. You know what I'm saying? That's on you because you're the main person.

Absolutely. So it makes you more cognitive of how the people. And that's another thing about with people who ask to go on the road with you. in my DM it's all the type of people I would love the opportunity to open for you or go on the road with you

how you know you would love that opportunity you're just thinking about crowd or to this nature but it's me you've been on the road with me

or me it's more about me sharing the space with you versus your time you could be funny but we don't like each other right

I'm saying we don't mix I'm saying so I'd rather just had the people around me that I'm cool with and that I can have fun with that I trust

versus oh this guy is more talented than this guy okay you're funny than this guy but what he has is hey man he's not I know that he's not going to say anything about whatever go on man it's yo

it was a body on the ground in the room we left cleaned up everything with the body and then they got him in the interrogation room like so did you see a body like when? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you say it was well?

No, no, no. No, it couldn't have been. I came, I went and ain't got my backpack. Yeah, yeah. I can't step over nobody. Right. And then, but then you, that I don't know, that's hilarious now.

Yeah. So the body, you're talking about the one that was on the ground? Yeah. Did you see the one that was in the closet? Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's a trust fact.

Yeah. You know? We don't really know each other. Like, you wouldn't, you wouldn't do a podcast with somebody that you really, really don't know. Because you're just sitting across with them, you're like, I have no idea

how to even think about anything. Right. You see those podcasts and they usually suck when it's two co-hosts that never met each other. They don't know each other. They just come and sit down for the first time. Yep. He was like, yo, he was like, yo, so I love pork.

And we got, 50 tour stops left. Yeah, yeah. You know what are these muscle? Yeah. No. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's that, devout, like he prayed everything. Yeah, but it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. When you said, you was a problem with him,

I looked, I was like stack for law. I was like, I was like, stack for law. I'm like, he don't know what he's saying. No,

no, no, it's an inside joke. I know, I know whatever you were talking about. I was like, but to a Muslim, I was like, yo,

he wow, a stuck for a law. Yeah, yeah. That's funny. With the Jesus piece on, I was like, wow.

Yeah. I pray for you like wait for his sense like that's funny that he's like As soon as you said

I'm like I don't even like oh no I'll like let me pray for this brother now no you know what's funny about that

now I know while he was sitting here looking like what? Like he was trying to gaze the room like I was like

what's going on like whoa that's funny I miss that but now so much makes sense of the beginning of this entire thing

you because I was Because I was like, oh, something happened? Yeah, yeah, you know. I was sitting there. I was like, mm. Yeah. No.

I'm making all type of do for him. Like, yeah. That's what is fun. The listeners they're going to get it, but that's funny. It's not like, it's like, it's not like he's saying it at a random time. This is, this is, this is do all ha. This is like the first 10 days of this month. This is a sacred 10 days.

You know what I'm saying? And, like, he is wow. Yeah. That's funny as fuck. Oh my God. So many stuff. But you got so many blessings on you right now. Yeah, I appreciate that.

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You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. One of the biggest things from the roast was what seemingly seemed to be Kev and Kat kind of putting their thing to the side. Cat showing up obviously is a big thing because him and Kev's history, you know, whatever they don't really get along. Whatever it was that was there, they seemed to have.

buried that and hash that away on stage. Now, I caught your episode with 7 p.m. in Brooklyn. Shout out to Kaz and Mello. And everything that happened after that, when Kat Williams came on after your episode aired. And I see you went back on and then let them know like, yeah, man, I ain't like the way y'all did that and this, that, and third. Where's that relationship now, though, like with you and Kat?

Is there any relationship? Is there, was there any communication after that? Or is it just something like, Listen, man, you know, he's doing this thing. I'm doing my thing. And we kind of. Yeah, we separate, separate ball games, you know. Do your thing.

Yeah. I don't have, I don't have nothing good nor bad to say about him. Mm-hmm. You know, we just know, and I'm always stick on this. Manhood is a big thing. For sure. Like I say, just because you in this space don't mean that you want in another space.

Mm-hmm. So that's the, the, the, gist of it with me. So, but if you say on, you say on site with the understanding that you're never going to be seen.

Oh, I love that. I love those stuff. It's a thing. Yeah. You know, and I, um, realistically, bro,

I, um, I pray for the, the health and the well, of of not only my friends and my constituents, but also my

people who have made themselves enemies to me. And blessings to you blessings to you until combat. Right. Until combat. Into combat. And that's

the most that I can even say because I don't think that there would ever be a and it's not it's not i don't know that unless the creator i've said this before i'll leave it alone unless the creator changes my my heart on it but i've but i've been like that before with with with formidable opponents in the streets like we good and i say we know

we're straight and then we'll see each other and there's still got to be some understanding that's being said. And like, people will say that I'm bullying somebody. And I'm not no bully. I just know what I actually am. Right. And the room gets a lot smaller when I'm in this tension. Because I'm not, I kind of,

somebody asked me if I had to describe myself in an animal form. I said, it's easy. Honey badger. I'm rolling along, minding my business, you know, foraging, and then a line come up, a pack of lines come up and try to kill me. And I just came back down. I'm going to, I'm going to fight. And it's what it is.

I don't have no weight class. And I used to say this when I was locked up. Brow, I'm a hard way to go. And if you want to catch this ride, just do what we're going to do. Because what's the, what would be the fear in a person who loves combat?

Whether it's whatever you choose. And if it's fierce, if we're just fighting, oh man, come on, bro. Yeah, that's you. I grew up, I grew up fighting and I've been boxing since I was six.

It's like, bro. Right. And if you go, hopefully you bigger than me. This is when it get real nice. You would see the difference between the footwork being able to really, a person that can really fight and a person who came. Like I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

ain't no blind punches with me. This is, this is, this is a setup. I'm setting you up for something. And, and I hope, but I, but this is not to say that you and cat going to throw hands. Okay, well shit, maybe this is, this is a thing that we don't know

I'm I'm I'm I'm it's better for me to leave it alone yeah and then be in the situation and then you'll find out but see sometimes I didn't have been into it with somebody and then we'd have been

in the same room and it was enough for me to be in the same room like right you get it you you you didn't want to you don't want that pro okay I feel you your your heart your heart Your heart is so weak when it comes to what you're talking. And then people talk from safe spaces.

And when I say safe spaces, I don't have no bodyguards, bro. I don't need them. I don't even know. I'm not behind no bunch of people. I'm not on, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going to say it on the show. I'm not even going to say it on the show. so where people it could be recorded to where

you would know if something happened it was me right because it's safety in that it's safety in and putting something out there publicly I'll try to handle it in the private right

you know it's kind of like I was um the dude cut me off one time he and his truck I'm in my car and he kind of tried to run me off the road So then I caught up to him

I said what I said And he said pull over I pulled over Right in the streets Yeah And he drove past me and said Come to the gas station Yeah

We get to the gas station I take all my stuff off And I put my gloves on And then he's time I come from over here By the cameras It's cameras all over again You probably be over here And then he goes

gonna get in this truck and they're man you you lucky i'm not lucky nothing yeah yeah yeah you called me over here i said over there m zan with no cameras you brought me over to the gas and somebody come from up under the camera it's it's a gas station it's cameras everywhere you can see everything yeah man bro you ain't want you ain't want this yeah like because you already because you thought in your mind that i was going to bag down going to pull over yeah bro when you saw when you saw took that shirt off and put them gloves on your mind like, why does he have gloves? So accessible in his car. And he's and slacks and hard bottles.

And this man, I'm thinking this is a regular, because in your mind is somebody who's driving a Bataga. Yeah. He's a regular smuggler dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got some corporate job. I'm right over. Yeah. Unbuttoned shirt.

Yeah. My shirt in the back with my gloves on. And it's these skin. like it's almost like golfing gloves they're a real thin leather I slipped them on real quick yeah you know took off my reign I'm like what's up yeah and he's like

come on them camera like yo bro you call me over yeah you can tell you can tell in the stands that this is not gonna go yeah like you think and I'm light on my feet and I'm like yeah

I'm like yo you bro you are not fend to make it to whatever construction job you on your way to you're gonna go in there mangled. I would never tell somebody that I didn't want to fight to go over to the gas station. But in his defense, if somebody got out their

fucking car, would they shirt off and some gloves on? I'd be like, you know, you got it. We ain't got to do it. I would never do that without the intention. I'm saying, though, if somebody came out like that, no. I'm cool. I call you over. Somebody come out shadow boxing.

And you get out, you guys and they're like, oh, this is going to be a good one. You know what? But goodness, gracious. Like, I was so, offended that you said come from up under the cameras and now I'm out this is where it looked like this is me talking he in the truck like his cameras

everywhere like I look like a crazy man when I look back at it like yo I know my man the Indian guy that's definitely running this gas station looking at this camera like look at the people like I know he's this wilding because man it's a it's like a Jamaican dude coming out with a machete

oh that's their thing yeah yeah yeah he about business this ain't no sugar cane deal This is like he's about business. At all. And he pointing it to you and sent all these strange words that you ain't never. He's like, yo, I'm like, yo, man, I don't, I'm good. Well, hopefully, you know, I mean, I don't know where it started at, but I do, you know, watching you in 7 p.m. in Brooklyn. I do know kind of the back end after Cat was on and then you went back on.

But, you know, wherever it's at, hopefully it doesn't come to any physicality or anything like that. man, it's like this. We don't want to see that. You ain't, you, that, we're not going to be in the same space. We're not going to be in the gas station. Yeah.

Not going to get the gas station. And then it's, even though I've left it alone, I don't even think about it. Somebody asked me about it. Yeah. Even with that, whatever him and Kevin did

is beautiful. Mm-hmm. You know. But like, people can see my track record. My track record is always, if I have a problem, I'd rather solve the problem.

If somebody see the problem publicly, then the resolve is going to be publicly as well. I don't have a problem resolving anything. That's a part of manhood. Yeah. You're saying, you're not always right, and sometimes you do something, you're offensive to somebody.

And then you do what you do, make it right. You know what I'm saying? That's just, that's street code, that's life code. That's whatever religion, you are, you make things right, you'm saying, and it doesn't take away from who you are as a person. Right. I don't have no problem with making something right.

Mm-hmm. In life, you're going to have to do that. Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? But when you don't take accountability or you don't think that you wrong in an instance, say once again, my mind thought is this. I don't even know if she knew could have been her bodyguard, right? Mm-hmm.

You know what I say Still doesn't not allow you to make it right Right You know what I'm saying So sometimes you do something Or you say something Something happens when it's on your watch Yeah

When it's on your watch You are responsible for it And that's just manhood That's just being human If something happens on my watch Man I remember It was a money situation and

Drake came to me and told me about it and I said this what we do pay it no true let's pay it now we paid it and we good

right so when that person double backs around to need something from me I never said that I don't deal with you no more. Right.

We just, it was, it was more of a, you, it's like with my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, you just say, man, you pay for peace. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I don't need nobody talking about this, that, and the third with no money with me. Right. Right.

Right. Right. But I know what we stand at from this point. Right. Yeah. But it's never a problem. Yeah. when if I say,

nah, we ain't paying him. Nah, we ain't paying them. I'm inviting the problem. I want the problem. Right. Because I'm standing on integrity. I'm not paying you with this. If I decide that I'm not going to pay for the peace.

You invite everything else. I'm inviting everything else. The conflict. That's a fact. I don't need no, man, we, a dude owed me $15,000. it before. And I said, keep it. And some people called me that know both of us, and they say, yo, you want me to get that bread for you? Because I ain't like hiring me and said. I said, no, we're good.

And my we good speaks a lot more volumes than somebody else's week. Because my we good, because my we good is that's how much I paid never to deal with you again. Yes. Andrew O'Bronk's tail shit. Yeah. You know, in $20 you like them? No, you got them out your life for $20. Yeah.

Yeah. It's that simple. And so when it circled back around, no, we're good. We still, we're good. We're still good. We're still good. And if something, if I can stop something from happening.

Right. I'm good. Yeah. My problem anymore. I don't have to. deal with you. Yeah. And, man, we, we fine, bro.

Yeah. If you think $1,500 is going, it's worse, you already show me that me and you're not friends. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Don't worry about it. No, don't worry about it.

Yeah. Yeah. I got you. Pay for peace. Pay for peace. I know I don't have a jovial personality around strangers. Yeah. That's why I know a roast would be crazy for me with strangers.

I'd be on that roast. I'm telling me, it'd be so. Yeah. All right. it would be so many sound bites of, hey, did you see when such said something? And that fool said bad. Yeah. I'm taking, I'm taking it. I don't take

a middle note. Yeah, yeah. That's what we had, Tony Hitchcliff. Okay, word, word, word. And I know Tony. Like, Tony Hitchcliff is a crazy man. Yeah. So whatever he said, I know he's crazy. I know it's crazy. Because I've been on this show killed Tony. Yeah. Multiple times. So I know whatever he said

was absolutely insane. He was funny. Because Tony, I've been in the green room and Tony walks in the green room I'm at the mothership and Tony's my your people out there

I said you you are so racist I don't know if it's a bit with Tony anymore Tony and before I think it was a bit I don't think it's a bit I don't think it's a bit anymore.

Tony you are so tremendously racist and it's crazy. Like you're the craziest racist person I haven't know. And I said, I don't even know what you mean by my people because it's all white out there. It's all right.

But the way you said it, you are so racist. And then I was on the show with Doug Williams, Doug does movies. And it's me and Bert, Bert Chrysler. And Bert was saying the story. He's like, yo, so, you know, I did backface when it was cool. And I'm the only black person who said, I looked down. I said, when the hell was blackface cool, Bert? Can you give me the year?

He was like, like, in college. It wasn't cool. He was like, fucking racist. He's like, no, Ali, I'm just saying in college. I said, no, it wasn't. Bird, when it was cool. It was not. You know something I'm not talking to you for the rest of the show.

And Bert was like, Ali, listen. Like, because we, we people apart. I'm like, no, I'm not talking to you because black things is never cool. Yeah. He was saying, Klansman. Yeah. But I know Bird is not racist, but he's insane in his mind. And he told me this story about when he, how they got out of paying this tab in this bar.

Tracy Morgan. Yeah. And he's nuts. That was at a Madam X, which is like down the block. Yeah. And I can see why he's nuts. Yeah. You know, I'm saying?

Like, he was involved. Like, I've been in his house. It was wild as premier. I know he's not racist, but he will say things. Yeah. And just out of just saying it. Yeah. I remember when I did Blackface when it was cool.

I was like, you're a loony to him. And they, and nobody expects me not to say nothing. Yeah. They're not going to sit there. Like, I'm not going to sit there and be like, oh, okay. Yeah. Like, it's no way. that I could have said through Ricky Jarveh and Chris Rock.

Oh, and the Louis C.K. and Seinfeld? Yeah. There's no way I could have said through that. Like, it's no way I could have said to it. And I know I would have been right by what I would have did. Because Seinfeld was like this. Seinfeld was like, like, you know what it is. He's like, no, no, no.

Best friend's black. Yeah. No, not doing it. George Wallace is his best friend. Yeah. He would have been like, no, nobody. Because that's his face. And I'd have been like, yo, from the first one, slapping the mouth.

Because you ever notice this? Because it was a big debate about Hispanic saying it and rapping and this. It's guys who I don't rock with because they say it and they rap, but you're not of the culture. I don't care how much you're around and all the rest of it. And this is my number one example. Paul Waugh has never said it. Yeah. And not one rap song.

ever in life. Never. And we never got away with it. You know what I'm saying? Bill Burr. It's definitely the newer generation of comics have brought that in. Yeah. Because like Bill was around Patrice and like.

And so this is a, because who you're around is that you give the respect to. Right. Right. I'm saying. And a massive majority of them, they would never say it around Farrakhan. Mm-hmm. and sit around rolling Martin. So you isolate you

picking and choosing who you're saying and around. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's because you don't respect the people that you're around. You know what saying? Like Paul Wall, I've listened to Paul Wow since he first started rapping with comedian when they was color changing. He has

never said, I'm talking about when they was on an amateur level when he was still working at Papadoes coming to this club called Just Joking when I was hosting the open mic. I'm saying? And I owe my was crazy. It's like Apollo night on Thursday where everybody was doing everything. So he's never said it then. Right.

And so these new guys with this coach, you just be sitting back like, you do know that that's not going to fly with people of another generation. Because my uncle, which is, who is slavery strong, is going to choke you. And I'm not going to stop him. Right. And this is like a, this is like being. choked by a silverback. Like, yeah, yeah,

when you see this thick, black African hand, like an iron skillet. Yeah, I was about to come across somebody who can go and get a cast iron skitt out of an oven with no mitts and he choked you and he's trying to close his hand. He's trying to close his hand all the way with his fingers

touch. Hey, man, you ain't going to get, you can pull your gun out but you're going to still, it's going to stay, you know, and pause because you're getting choked by African on. I've never even, the only time I've ever thought somebody

could knock me out is when I went to go slaughter, go like eat out hot, it's coming up. And like eight days, seven days. When I went to go slaughtered someone, I went to go get a goat for the first time. And I picked a small one. I'm like, oh, I take that small right there. And this African guy just reached down

and grabbed a huge goat. And he's holding them. by his back leg and his arm is not even moving and the goat is trying to get away. He got three legs. He's using three legs. This is an animal that's like almost 200 pounds. He's trying to get away and he's just talking to me like

so yeah, where you want to put him. And the only thing coming across my mind, if he decided to hit me in my jaw even if I see it coming, I get braced for it. He's going to, he's going to do like when on bugs, went down, and the jaw would go around. my jaw's going to be somewhere back here

because he's holding an animal with his and it's all that's happening so what do you want to be I'm like I don't want you to do nothing with it I want you to put him down I want him to put him down I ask for Bambi over there

I ask for this little bitty haven't lived that much life I want to feel yeah man y'all can see y'all can get me on on ali's deep.com All things Ali's

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