New Rory & MAL - Episode 523 | GRICO
Episode Date: July 24, 2026Happy Friday! XXL Freestyles drop, and the gang has a conversation about Trim, and how Nicki Minaj’s influence might hinder her career. Marvel drops the first trailer for DOOMSDAY, and Mal share...s his excitement, and Baby D introduces a spirited debate between Will Smith and Denzel Washington. The crew attempts to decide on the coolest rapper, YG gets detained in LA hours before his Versuz with The Game, and the internet speculates on why DJ Khaled is pushing his album back. Billboard releases their Top R&B Artists in 2026 So Far, and the guys react, before getting into new music from Steve Lacy, Victoria Monet, and more! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Tamara, you should have practicing your Johnny P. Caddiverse. Women been showing out the last Philly.
Yeah, they have. They showed out at the cold show. You got a lot of comp. Come on. Let's do a practice
round. I would never attempt to do that. I would never attempt to do that. Even if I could get
every single word right, I know I will fuck up out of pure nervousness. I wouldn't even embarrass myself
like that. But you actually know how to rap and your
mannerisms like look natural. I feel like
you would smoke that. Yeah, I would get nervous.
Just because of whose concert it was, I would get nervous.
No, you got to look cold in his eyes and do it.
Look at what you want me to do. You want me to put on?
Yeah. Yeah. No. I'm mad we're going different days.
If they come to me to do it, I'll do it.
If they come to, well, you got to be prepared.
What's the first four bars? I'm not doing that.
what if they ask for like Acapoco
not even with a beat
like the whole arena
I would get so nervous
my cheeks gonna turn so pink
I'm cool
for those that don't know
Cole has his fans
rapping that verse
they brought some drunk girl
by accident one time
and I felt really bad for her
because she was right next
to some guy that was sober
and a Cole fan
and she was just kind of mumbling
her way through
it was it was rough
like she regretted that
the next day for sure
yeah
but I don't know
what concert
would you be able to do that with
like a hover
oh never
Ryan Hove.
Maul, what concert would you be able to do that with, like, rap word for word with the rapper?
Doja Cat.
December 1st, Madison Square Garden, I'll be there.
What, what song?
You wouldn't get nervous looking her in the eyes?
Nope.
What song?
Not at all.
You look right into her soul?
I did Doja Cat to give me that.
I did her to put the spotlight on me and the camera on me and ask me to rap.
What song?
Any song.
Get into it, yeah?
Any song.
I could be Lido on the new joint.
Okay.
Look at my eyes when I slide when he slide it in.
No, when I-
fucking on that time again.
I'll change the words.
I'll make it, you know.
Look at her eyes when you slide in them.
Heterosexual.
I'll make it heterosexual.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Have you seen a video for that?
It's the longest video.
It's almost as long as thriller.
When you put it on loop, it's as long as you want it to be.
That's the power of the loop.
Yeah, that new lot of Doja Cat.
That's as long as roots.
You know, remember Roots?
same shit
if you walk in my house
it's just projected
on the wall
it just plays all day
his roots
it's the Jackson 5
story
and it's the
doja cat lotto
record
it's a great video
great cinematography
the lighting
they recorded it themselves
just the treatment
was beautiful
and the only thing
I wish they did
was put it in theater
so it can be nominated
for an Oscar
like if they had it in
30 days
just having it for a month
put it in theater
select theaters
around the city
just so they can get
nominated for an Oscar
for this that's all
yeah
that's the only
The only thing I think they dropped the team dropped the ball on.
They should have definitely put this in theaters.
I mean, I get they wanted to get the video out, but, you know, submit to Sundance.
Yeah, like they were supposed to work this thing.
Maybe it was South of France.
Come on, man.
Go through the proper channels.
They look good.
The biratials look good in this one.
They look good.
It was a good, good display of that.
Mm-hmm.
Is Doja cat biracial?
Biracial unity.
Mm-hmm.
She is so?
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
No, good display of Lotto's old rap name for sure.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, man.
Do you think she still, like, if she didn't change it?
Because she changed at, like, the peak of the wokeness on the internet.
Do you feel like she'd be okay if she was Milato still?
Which, by the way, I never even, like, knew that was a bad word.
Yes, she would be okay.
I think so, too.
Everybody would be fine.
Flotto is a better rap name, though.
Like, she, outside, of course, she did it because she cares very deeply about that being a terrible word.
We know why.
Flotto is a better word.
For a rap, for a rap name?
And she's also used mad lottery flips.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a better choice for sure.
Maybe she should have changed the name Latte.
Those are kind of in the biracial world too.
Yeah, like, you mean like a latte?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know if I like it.
Why not?
Latte.
If it's a lot of girls used to call themselves mocha, remember that?
So I'm saying.
They still do.
So it was latte.
It's like, okay.
Go to a certain club.
There's definitely a mocha on stage.
It's a mocha.
So matcha is her.
Who the fuck is calling themselves
Machia?
We're not far away from people.
If you think it's not a girl right now
about to go viral for a record,
her name is Macha,
you got life twisted.
Yeah.
Remember I told you
it's definitely going to be
a female rapper named Macha.
Okay.
If it's not a...
Is she about that green?
She bought that green.
Mm-hmm.
Big green.
Yeah, I see where you going with that shit,
mom.
You think it's not an artist named Macha?
And she's all natural.
Yeah.
She'll have work done, but she'll say she's a wonderful.
Yeah, come on now.
Good doctor.
Oh, damn, there's already a one.
And she looked.
The song's, no.
The song's, okay, gotcha.
Yeah, no, I'm talking about the artist will be named Macha.
Definitely.
It's a Macha out there in the universe somewhere.
It's a new rapper called Lynn that I wanted to give a shout out to.
She had an on the radar freestyle that she did or a song that she did.
And she sounded good.
Like, she could actually rap.
She sounded good.
Lynn, L-I-N-N.
Oh, L-Y-N-N-N.
Okay.
Where she's she from?
I don't know where she's from
You know so, Chris, you always ask me that
when I talk about a new artist
And I never know where they're from
But I literally just saw her on the radar
You're just gonna say the name
Where is she from?
What's her background?
I don't know
What's her star sign?
I do not know
I guess she's from Birmingham, Alabama
She's based in Texas
Yeah
She now lives in Austin, Texas, okay
She's wrapping her ass off.
Lynn the bad guy
Oh, okay, I'm glad she got rid of the bad guy
And Lynn
Yeah
She wasn't right
It wasn't like pussy rap
It was good
It was good
Or she was, like, giving us, like, real bars?
She still has that, like, southern down.
She kind of sounds like if Mona Leo and, like,
can the man and Lotto all just, like, joined hands and became one person.
Lynn, okay.
So.
Okay, Lynn, I'm going to check Lynn out.
See what she's talking about.
Who's, who's my girl?
My guilty pleasure song?
He loved my new body.
That's my shit, man.
I play that in the car by myself.
Who's that?
That's true.
That's the one that people compare to Nikki Minaj.
Rightfully so, because she does sound just like Nikki,
but I don't really give a fuck because that new body record is fired.
I don't know what you're talking about.
You never heard nobody by,
pull up nobody by Trim.
That's the song of the summer.
Like seriously,
Nikki Minaj hasn't said anything about this?
I don't know what Nikki is thinking.
She sounds good, but this was almost blasphemous in hip-hop at one point.
But knowing Nikki Menach's-
Like, sounded exactly like somebody was like,
that was outlawed in hip-hop at one point.
I feel like the rules have changed.
We've been talking about it.
about it for like five years. Yeah, but this is different now.
No, this is acceptable.
Bro, that's a good record, man.
Can you bring up on an Excel freestyle? The record, the record, the record,
fire. But that's Nikki. Like, the fluctuations in it. That's Nikki Minaj.
Here, right there, Ryan, you had it.
That's that touched his platform. These host was pushing 40 when I got my platform.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I didn't hear it. I didn't hear that. I didn't hear this before I heard the
nobody show.
And I was like, all right, that's crazy.
Then I heard the record and I was like, I see why she gets away with it because the music works.
That's, that's a lot.
I didn't see that.
Here's my, I don't know this young lady's full history, but my guess is her team put her up to this.
Like, people are comparing you to Nikki.
Just go.
Now, drag it.
Drag it.
Yeah.
Who says that?
Because you can't control.
A smart manager.
You can't.
No, no.
Smart manager does not say that.
Like, go full Nikki?
The strategy of music now is to get attention, clicks, and traffic.
What is going to get you more traffic than being a carbon copy of Nikki so people can say that and get you in the algorithm?
And then on top of that, you actually make okay music.
I get that.
I get that.
And everything you're saying, you sound like somebody that works at a label.
That's what I'm speaking about that perspective.
Okay, so that's what I'm saying.
You sound like somebody that works at a label.
What I'm saying is, as somebody that's listening to music, as somebody that grew up in the culture,
hip-hop, this is disrespectful.
That's not even, you don't even sound a little bit like yourself.
She sounds more like Nikki than Nikki.
That's what I'm saying like, you don't even sound a little bit like yourself.
Like, I'm not saying, we've heard Jack Harlow records, right?
Where we like, little Drake quoted.
Drake quoted, right?
Even Fab and Mace had some comparisons in the beginning.
We get that, right?
This, though, is flat out, like you said, a smart manager, quote,
quote, go full Nikki Minaj.
I think she probably had a Nicki influence when she started making music.
Every female.
Every female.
She had a Nicki influence.
Every female rapper that has had a Nicki influence.
I don't even want to talk about the influence.
I want to talk about the sound.
Because you can't control.
If you sound like Nikki Finnage when you talk, then that's your voice.
There's nothing you can do about that.
So that's why I've been sticking up for her.
But that freestyle is, I can't stick up for that.
No, because even, all right.
Like Action Bronson.
speaks the way he speaks. He's going to sound like ghost
because that's just the voice he was born with. Where people
gave action shit was like some of his inflections
and how he wrapped was like ghosts too.
And you have the same voice as him. That's this time's a thousand.
Yeah, but it's not. And you're actually leaning into it.
Yeah, but it's not even the voice. It's the aesthetic.
Well, I don't want to say the aesthetic because of the majority of like
What? Oh my gosh. She even looks like Nikki right there.
You know what you're about to say, baby Dee?
Like, what was you about to say?
Because first of all, when I was about to speak on aesthetic,
all of the female rappers wear the colored fucking wigs,
colored makeup,
like they all-
Baby D,
I'm talking about this though.
She's not the first person that.
Oh, you're talking about that.
When you're talking about the way she looks,
the way her hair is the way makeup is.
Okay, that's,
Mona Leo has had that same hairstyle.
Like, that's,
they all wear colored.
When people used to say that people were stealing from Nikki,
people used to go and pull back and say,
okay, well, Nikki's stealing from Kim.
They all wear colored wigs, big eyelashes.
Okay, but baby, can you see how if some, if a woman sounds exactly like Nikki?
But she looks like Nikki Minaj.
Now, I'm not talking about the aesthetic.
I'm talking about her face.
So this is what I'm saying.
So this is what I'm saying.
If your facial features somewhat resemble Nikki Minaj, right, wouldn't a smart man to say,
look, you already look like you could be Nikki's cousin, little sister.
And you sound like her.
We can't do the wigs.
Like Ice Spice came out, she don't look like nobody.
she may have did a pink wave but when we first saw ice spice we saw the curly carrot top girl in the park made me feel seen didn't look like nobody right this like to rory's point speaking on a record executive this looks and feel like no let's go full nicky monage let's go full pink print let's go full piggy in the blanket of freestyle let's like that's what this is and i don't know like you know whoever this the girl is uh trimmy
is her name?
Trim, yeah.
Like, you know, like, whatever she's trying to do, I hope she's successful at it.
She's obviously having some success, but there's not much longevity in trying to be a
carbon copy of.
You say that, but, all right, can I give the perspective of this kind of being the natural
progression of things when it went from digging through the crates to find samples to then
just using obvious samples because this is a proven record that human ears like.
So let's sample it in a very obvious way because we know it's going to work.
We can put money against it.
We know we'll get some ROI on it because we know this works.
Then you go to movie industry.
Let's just remake Marvel shit because we know it works.
Let's do reboots of movies that already work.
The natural progression is going to be, let's do a carbon fucking copy of an artist because we know it worked.
When is that ever worked?
When has that ever worked?
Hip-hop is not long enough.
It's a progression of that.
You're talking about sampling music.
I'm talking about when an artist has ever sounded exactly like and looked exactly like.
You're missing my point.
I'm saying that's the natural progression of that.
No, that's the extreme of it.
Yes, it is.
It's not the natural progression.
No artists are going to say,
so,
all right,
so there's going to be a successful artist
that looks and sounds exactly
like Michael Jackson?
That artist will be successful?
I don't know.
It would not work.
Niggas would laugh at that.
We see a thousand of them niggas in Vegas every day.
That shit does not work.
It's not going to work.
They're singing the same.
That's,
it's a little bit different.
I understand where Rory's coming from.
Even if they wasn't,
if an artist came out right now
and looked like Michael Jackson,
had the glove,
the hob waters,
the loafers,
everything,
the hair sounded like an ad-lips, everything.
You're telling me that artist would be successful?
Or would people be like, man, get this shit out of here?
Now, Trim, I don't know if she's successful.
She's going viral.
People deem that as success going viral, right?
Maybe that's what she's looking for.
Until she puts an album out of project out
and tries to sell some hard tickets to a show and arena,
that's when we can start to gauge if this thing is working or not.
A video going viral and all of that,
okay, I see how people said that success.
I'm saying there's not much longevity in trying to be a carbon copy of one of the most iconic female emcees of all time.
There's not much longevity there.
Now, I understand you're saying the natural progression is fucking and samples.
The artist might as well.
It's different with music.
And then when the artist is trying to sound and look exactly like the artist, that's not going to work.
I'm saying that with that progression, the fans are changing and turning into people that give less of a fuck.
and young enough at some point
in the next 20 years of course Nikki is
an icon but there's be a bunch of kids that don't really know
who the fuck Nicky is and it's going to feel brand new to them
it's going to feel brand fucking new to them
that's what I'm talking about.
Even now if you look all these artists are using the same
fucking auto tune and trap drums that little baby
uses I saw a white kid that looks like me
put on the exact same future filter
and I thought it was fucking future.
Is that awesome stuff? The next step
is just hey these young kids don't know shit
you're just being carbon copy. And to my
point you're naming all artists that did not
have longevity.
Will it work for a second?
Okay.
The sound is familiar.
Like, who's that?
Oh, that sound like this person.
I'm saying there's not much longevity in it.
When y'all can name an artist that has had longevity and sounding and looking exactly
like a very successful artist that we've already had, then we can have another conversation.
I think that's why I said I think that you're missing a point where Rory says the natural
progression of things because this is the new thing.
Nobody's saying that it's a proven thing.
Yeah, I don't know if it works.
But this is the new thing.
Number one, Nikki is missed in music. People miss Nikki in music, but because of her actions,
whether you agree with them or not on and off the internet and things like that, that's kind of
made it like where it's like, okay, a lot of people don't really fuck with Nikki like that,
like, but except for hardcore fans that she's had like since the very beginning.
So when you have a new artist who is pandering to a younger crowd who didn't get to have
Nikki the way that we got to have Nikki, it's different because this is now new for them.
This is fun for them.
As far as her looks and her aesthetic, the colored wigs and all of that shit, all of the female rappers do that now.
So if you're talking about somebody, that's a carbon copy of looking like Nikki, everybody does that already.
That's just that aren't rappers.
Regular women in the streets dress like that now.
So that's just like how the kids get down.
The kids all wear colored wigs and look like they're just extra.
Whatever.
They all look like they're on fucking the hunger games.
But as far as the sound, the kids never experienced that.
We got to experience it, but the kids never experienced that before.
And it stands out against all the female rappers that they have.
now. So it could be, it could be successful. Now, will she reach extremely high heights?
I hope that she does, but female rap just isn't doing that right now, right?
She can pivot. This could be a way to get in and get people talking.
I hope that she doesn't pivot. If she's really talented, she could pivot and obviously still have
a influence of Nikki sound similar to Doja Cat. Definitely you could say has an influence of
Nikki as far as flowing boys. She's from Charleston, South Carolina. Bro, let's cut the end. Oh, I did not know
that. I thought this girl was from Brooklyn.
I did not know she was from Charleston, South Carolina.
Let's cut the shit, though. Like, all this you're trying here saying, I get it, we
podcast and we can cut the shit. Can we look, can we look and see if she's ever lived in
New York? I did not know that. I don't care where she lived that. She's from Charleston,
South Carolina. Okay, Nikki wasn't from England and Roman existed.
No, that point didn't land. Slow clap for Rory.
Nikki was British for a whole year
Low clap for Rory
I'm trying to defend trim man
Her name is Alasia Kornicki
She is from Charleston South Carolina
Where she grew up on King Street
Her distinct accent and cadence stem from her
Gully Ghihi heritage rooted in South Carolina
I would have to hear her speak
Um
Hear her speak
I'm listening to the song y'all just played
I will be even more offended if I hear her speaking
She sounds like she's from Charleston South Carolina
I will be more fitted.
Yeah.
Well, I like Trim's music because I miss Nikki making music.
But that's so I hope that she doesn't pivot because I missed that.
I miss that sound.
But yeah.
I'm just saying, man, there's not, there's no longevity in that.
She's playing the short game with that.
That's all.
I admire the high expectations you have for this era.
No, not just the artist of family.
It's not the era.
It's for the art form.
No, I envy you.
I wish I still had that type of hope.
If you're, to me, if you're, to me, if you're,
trying to get into music and create music and do something.
Anything you're doing, you should be thinking longevity.
Like, I would think.
Again, you have a very high opinion of that generation.
Okay.
I don't think those kids are thinking about longevity, just based by their digital footprint now.
Longevity is tough for the average person trying to get a job.
Like, they're thinking about today in the algorithm.
Nobody has longevity in their head from that era.
Okay, maybe right.
I guess she had made a comment.
Was that quote real where she said about,
she said that she don't think she sounds like Nikki?
I'd have to, that was like in text.
I'd have to hear her say that.
Yeah.
She said it don't even sound like Beyonce.
She said that her song, coconut water,
don't sound like nothing.
Okay.
I don't know.
It is what it is.
I mean.
Mall is appalled.
Very rarely do I appall mall.
I'm just like, yo, that's to hear.
That free style was crazy.
I love nobody, though, but that free style was crazy.
Because y'all don't, again, y'all are missing what I'm saying.
I'm attaching to how blasphemous at one point this was in hip hop to do something like that.
Like to look and sound exactly like somebody.
Hip hop was like.
Fighters.
It's supposed to be original.
Like you're supposed to, you get mad if somebody said, yo, you sound like, it used to be a fight.
You sound like, I sound like what?
And it would be, it would literally be a fight.
If you told the artist he sounds like,
Or she sounds like somebody.
Well, I mean, that's different, though,
because now all of them
from the South sound the same to me.
Yeah.
You can replace all of them
on each other's records,
and they all sound the same.
Only when that sound different is 217.
To Mall's point, though,
the most egregious thing ever
was Shine and Biggie,
but Shine still had his own style.
It wasn't a carpeting fucking copy.
But even then, that was like,
nah, I can't fuck with Sean.
He sounds too much like big.
Yeah, that was a thing.
It was like, yo, he's trying to sound like big.
And he signed the bad boy.
Like, Sean went through,
like, he went through,
some shit.
Yeah.
Like, just trying to be an artist.
Forget the person.
That was his natural speaking voice.
Yeah, and that was just his natural, like, voice.
So this to me, again, pardon me, I'm from a different time and era in hip hop.
But seeing and hearing something like that, it's just like, what the fuck?
And people are like enjoying this.
Jaru.
He said he was DMX.
And Jad don't sound nothing like them.
They don't sound nothing to like.
You had a no shirt thing.
That was like Pock.
Yeah, the bandana.
Yeah, the red bandana.
And he sounds nothing like Puck.
Yeah.
Doesn't make any music like Puck.
I think Jarl Rood just got those comparisons to DMX because his voice, right?
Yeah, he's how deep voice is.
Which is something he can't even control.
And it didn't help that someone that just had two number one albums said,
hey, that guy sounds exactly like me.
That didn't help either.
Yeah.
I'm just having.
Of DMX yelling out loud in the same voice, he sounds just like me.
I'm from a different time, man.
Like that shit was not.
wave like you will get you will get fucking with the what the Kanye tell a girl in the room to do
shut up before you get what he said uh which time i don't yeah i wanted to use that word right there
but yeah that's that was you would get when he was in like the hotel exiled okay you will get exiled
from hip-hop at one point if you try to sound and look exactly like somebody like people are flam
the door you like get out of it time is changing especially with these labels because if they
know something works if this is a proven thing like they don't want to same thing like they don't want to same
thing that Rory said.
That's why they keep remaking old movies and Marvel movies.
If we know this works, we're going to stick to this because we're tired of losing money
on creativity.
Did you see the Doomsday trailer?
No, I didn't see it.
You don't see it?
It looks amazing.
None of y'all saw it.
It's like at a billion views.
I didn't see it.
There's three billion, like a billion people watching.
I couldn't get past the lotto, doja cat or nobody.
Yeah, that was probably just as long as Doomsday was.
But yeah, the doomsday trailer?
Mm-mm.
Yeah, this might be, this might be the greatest.
Marvel movie ever.
Really?
Oh, it's going to be better than I play Rocky?
You got Rocky.
No, I said this might be the best
Marvel movie.
Oh, so you don't think it's going to be better
than I play Rocky?
Marvel movies.
But what I'm asking me is a Marvel movie.
What I'm asking you, do you think it's going to be
better than I play Rocky?
Because you said I play Rocky with-
Watch that tone before Frank come up here.
You said I play Rocky is going to be the best movie
like of the year.
I said one of the best movies of the year.
Okay.
If I recall, correct.
Do you think that this is going to be better
than I play Rocky?
This, of course.
is a Marvel movie.
Absolutely.
This is the movie of you
without a doubt.
Okay.
This is a movie.
I don't want to hear about Odyssey, Pete.
Shut the fuck up with Odyssey.
Go on Pete.
I don't want to hear about that.
He love a good white retelling, don't he?
I got to go see it, though, because I'm hearing great things about it.
But if y'all didn't watch this Doomsday trailer,
this is definitely going to be the best Marvel movie ever.
I'm excited.
Y'all know how I feel about Marvel.
Yeah, this is, this trailer is incredible.
I got to go back and rewatch all the fucking shows.
too, though.
But what, like, what about this one do you, like, things separates it?
Because everybody that's, like, got ops, like, Magneto and fucking Professor X got to
fucking become friends again.
Okay.
Like, everybody that's ops, everybody that's in order to, obviously, you know, fight
the doomsday villain, they all have to come to, like, you, we don't, we're not beefing
with each other.
This was like, uh.
All of that, yeah, all of that shit.
They got a tie the bandanas together.
This is bloods and cribs.
when Tommy Goson 50 came together for one last job.
It's the same exactly.
When they met in the elementary school, they went to.
This is it.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Everybody's putting their beefs aside.
The beefs aside.
This is a bigger thing that we're, this is the most, this is the biggest force that we've ever had to face in the Marvel universe.
What are they fighting Israel?
Yeah.
Slow clap for Rory.
That's two slow claps.
You probably love that J.D.
Vanson and Rogan interview, didn't you?
I love it.
This is slow clap.
Yeah, but no, D-Duesday, you got to watch this, though.
Definitely moving the year.
I think it's coming out right before Christmas,
so, you know, they're getting that whole holiday rush.
All right, well, I'll see it.
You have to.
I don't like, I'm not super into the Marvel stuff,
but I like good movies.
You know, like Marvel movies?
They're cool.
I'm not like, I'm not going to dress up like you guys.
Wait, wait, wait, but who dress?
You think that I dress up to go see a Marvel movie?
Maybe.
The fuck, get the fuck out of it.
You know, I'm not doing it.
Yeah, I never dressed that for a movie?
You may have some, like, Supreme Collab that I don't know about with Wolverville.
You should have seen the hood niggas from Brooklyn dressing up to go see the devil wears Prada with their girlfriends.
I did not see that.
Prada had to toe.
Head to toe to go see devil wears Prada.
With their girlfriends.
Prada head to toe.
That's what.
I could find a pair of Prada sneakers in storage.
I mean, I'm not saying you can with Prada sneakers to go see devil wears Prada.
But head to toe.
Prada head to toe, y'all.
I guess so.
You did it in 07.
I've never wore full Prada outfit in my life.
All right, 06.
Have you ever worn anything full other than Godspeed?
Yeah.
Ralph Lauren?
Polo for show.
Nike for show.
Nike for show.
John Elliott?
Yeah.
Talk to him.
I'm just saying I have.
I just don't know if I'm putting on Prada or head to toe to go see devil where it's Prada too.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, all right, fam, what we doing?
Am I the devil?
Like, on the devil?
like on a date with my girl
I'm the devil
ooh
I mean if that's what niggins is doing
I don't know what they're doing
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What's worse?
You're on a date and your man wears all Prada to Devil Wars Prada.
Or he goes to the Doja Cat concert and wraps every verse to her face.
What's worse?
Yeah.
Mm.
That's more of an ick.
More of an ick.
A man rap it out loud at a concert is crazy.
Yeah, that's more to ick.
You know, I like I like Stushman.
I don't like that.
I think it's cute
Like if it was my friend
But as my man
You can't be like
Rap and word for word
No matter who the artist is
No matter who the artist is
I agree
Unless it's like
If we survived to let out
But other than
That might be the worst song
All right
You guys would have broke out
In hives at Yankee Stadium
Then
Every man was rapping word for word
Oh for sure
For sure
But that's different
That's Jay
It's cool to rap Jay
Jay's cool
So the artist
Has to be cool
The artist got to be cool
You have to deem the artist
to be cool.
All right, say the artists that aren't cool.
Most artists.
Artists ain't cool.
There's not a lot of cool, like, artists.
Can you think of a lot of cool, like,
artists, we'd be like, damn, they're cool.
I think Nas is one of the coolest art.
Nah, Naz is very cool.
Nause is very cool.
Nause and J are cool.
They're era in particular, but they're older than me.
So I view, like, when you were younger,
you viewed older people as cool.
But even their peers think they're cool.
But sometimes you got, they're corny when you got to that age.
Their peers think they're cool.
Yeah.
Like, I think everyone from Wu,
saying is cool as fuck.
Like, just that era to me, they're all cool.
I'm trying to think of, I don't know.
I mean, I haven't like hung out with artists
to the point of knowing if they're really cool or not
like that. Of what, like, famous ones that people are known?
Meth can't be cool. He's an actor.
You can't be a cool actor. You can't be a cool actor.
You can't be a cool actor. You can't be a cool actor. As an actor, you can't be
coolest nigga in the world. What are you talking about? Dinsel
Watson might be the coolest nigga in the world.
But Densel played a same thing.
But I just had this conversation.
Denzel plays the cool nigger in every role he play other than that one.
He's playing himself.
Exactly.
That's the thing.
You think he's acting.
He ain't.
They just happened to be recording Denzel on a day.
Exactly.
But that's why I literally just had the conversation because somebody, we were having
the Will Smith versus Denzel like who's the better actor.
I was having that.
A lot of people have that argument sometimes.
Yeah, people do.
Yeah.
Whether Will or Denzel are a better, is a better act.
I mean, I personally think Jamzell is, but that's just my thought.
But yeah, people have that.
And if you're talking.
like, who is having that debate?
They can make a debate off success.
It's not even box office.
It's not even box office.
To me, for me,
me personally, what I think,
and y'all know Denzel is like,
I love Denzel so much.
He's extremely, extremely talented.
Happy birthday to the legendary, Denzel.
He turned 80.
I didn't even know he was 80.
He did?
He did.
You said 80?
Denzel Washington is 80 years old.
That's crazy.
I believe.
That's crazy.
80 is crazy.
He can't be 80.
Get him in front of the screen now.
That man is 71 years old.
Oh, my God.
I was like, Denzel.
I thought I had 10 more years of Denzel being alive.
You were scaring the shit out of me.
71.
71.
He looks good.
He'll look a day over 60.
71, Denzel.
Happy birthday, Denzo.
Okay.
Is Will Smith a better actor because Will's probably not cool and he's come across cool in movies?
Anything.
When Denzel breathes, he's cool.
Well, Will Smith, we know he's not cool.
He showed us that at the Oscars.
The freestyle saved him, though.
He got back to coolness, right?
According to y'all, according to y'all, according to y'all,
I thought that was great.
Freestyle of the year.
I think that Will has more range.
That's why I think that Will is a better actor.
I think Will has more range.
Because he did one accent in concussion?
No, it's not about an accent.
Will can play a funny role.
Will can play an action role.
Will can play a serious role.
Will can pretend to be somebody else.
Will can act and just be himself in a movie and still be good.
Denzel was Malcolm X.
He has more rank.
Y'all just said that Denzel plays himself in every role.
He said that.
I didn't say that.
Yeah. Denzel plays himself in every row. There's some that he stood out where it was a little bit different.
But for the most part, he plays himself. Will doesn't do that. Will has a lot of rain. What do you mean? Of course, his own personality is going to blend in. But what do you mean by that?
I just literally just explained it to you. You think Denzel could be a comedian in a movie?
Probably if it was well written. I think he has the ability to look at a script and figure out what they're trying to get across.
You think he has that ability. Has he ever shown that ability? Do you remember him showing you that ability?
That you, you know. That he was in a- He could be a comedic actor? Yes. Yeah. No, I don't think
Denzel's taken like a traditional comedic role, but Denzel is funny without being funny,
which makes me think that he could do that if he wanted to, like, even in flight when they're at like the end at the hearing and he's like, I'm drunk right now, I fell out of my chair laughing.
Denzel can be funny
Even if it's not funny
Denzel is the person is naturally funny
Yeah so that's why I'm saying like
Okay you have a point because there's not like a direct
example of him being in a straight comedy shit
You're talking about like me slap funny
No to say he couldn't do that is kind of crazy
And I mean
Will yes says that range because he started on a comedy
Zincel's viral clip of I'm leaving here with something
That's comedy
That's hilarious but that's not acting
That's him being himself
He's naturally a funny person
That's what I'm saying. I think he could be.
I don't, I don't think that.
Inside, man, he was hilarious.
I don't think it's, you're looking at me like explain that.
I don't think it needs to be explained that Will Smith has shown.
I won't say has.
Let's say, has shown in his filmography that he has more range than Denzel.
He's a better comedic.
It's not even just comedy.
It's not even just comedy.
Well, I mean, Will comes from TV and it was a comedy.
So it was like, you know.
Okay.
All right.
Comedy, drama, I guess.
No, well, first of all, I want to make, I think Will,
Smith is a great, great actor.
You don't have to agree that you don't think that Denzel is a better actor to him.
That's fine.
That's opinion only.
But when I say he has more range and he's shown more range, I don't think that's
explained.
I think that's pretty simple.
The range only speaks to one part of acting.
And to me, it's the comedic part because I think Denzel beats Will in every other category
besides comedy.
But if that's the deciding factor of the full range thing, then sure, Will could have
more range.
The difference between Will Smith and Denzel is, Denzel's a Thessel.
being Will Smith is a lesbian.
Slow clap for all.
Medium clap.
It was a medium clap.
That wasn't a slow clap, baby, dude.
That was funny.
Fuck you, baby, dude.
How long you been sitting on that while we was debating?
That's what he was thinking about.
That's what, because Denzel comes from theater.
That was his origin theater.
There's always an amazing.
Will Smith's origin is rap, hip-hop, and then obviously fresh friends.
So it's like, you know, then he moved into film.
but Denzel started in the theater and then moved to film.
So it was just a different type of actor.
Different type of actor.
Yeah.
And I'm joking about Will being a lesbian.
He's not a lesbian.
Well, and also why that debate even exists is because they're both black.
I don't think that'd be a debate.
What do you mean they're both black?
That's why I think people have that.
I don't think they should be in a debate because they're different type of action.
I think De Niro and Denzel would be a better debate than Will Smith and Denzel.
Because they're different type of actor.
They're different type of actors.
I'm saying the only reason that people are having.
the debate is because I mean or they're also like De Niro
Dinairo has done comedies though
yes yes now was he trying to be funny in those comedies
maybe not but it was funny like
De Niro also kind of place he wasn't trying to be funny meet the fuckers but
his role was funny though you get what I'm saying
antagonist of yeah yeah that type of he's hilarious I think Denzel can do
that I don't think Denzel can do Kevin Hart type of comedy or
Dave Chappelle comedy in a movie but I think the way
De Niro was and meet the fuckers. I think Denzel could do that.
You think Denzel could be a superhero?
Yeah, he is a superhero. He's Malcolm X.
Got you there. He was Jake Shuttlesworth.
You got me. You know me? You ate me up. Of course he could be a superhero.
I love Denzel. It's my baby. I love him.
You never talk about the saddest part of he got game at the end when he was like,
we got over on you, Denzel. He went to Big State, but you didn't technically do it.
Sit in Attica for the rest of your life. Yeah. It's all right. We know the government was going to do that.
He was going to fuck him over.
Great movie, though.
How do we even get on that topic?
What were we talking about?
About actors?
Oh, about playing yourself in every role, but where do we get from there?
Oh, being cool.
Oh, rapping at a concert, being cool.
Yeah, who's cool?
Who's the cool?
Yeah, cool rappers.
Denzel is super cool.
Super cool.
Super cool, Denzel.
Okay, then what era are you asking for cool rappers to get back to that?
This era, I don't know.
I have no idea.
But I'm not cool, so I don't want to be.
that guy that is the gatekeeper of cool when I'm not.
I'm just like that everybody looks up to like cool.
Like damn, like they're cool.
Like, cool don't exist no more.
Kanye was cool.
No?
No, he was never cool.
He came out being a nerd.
Like, he was never the cool.
He ushered in the new world where nerds became cool and high fashion became cool.
And everyone dressed more like Kanye than anyone else.
Yeah, but that cool, influential doesn't be.
If you're influencing how everyone is dressing, to me that,
is probably one of the biggest examples of being cool.
Well, that's not what I refer to when I refer to as well.
ASAP and his crew were cool as fuck when they came out, no?
A-Sap and him was cool.
But to the younger generation.
That's not what I refer to when I refer to cool.
Oh, what do you mean then?
I mean, when I say cool, I mean like the cool, like, lay back, like, almost like, don't talk, like, just that type of cool.
Larry June is cool.
Good job, Larry.
And he's positive and shit.
Like, that's cool to me.
The fact that all you got to say is good job to the crowd and everyone should.
Cheers. Like, that's some real cool shit to me.
That's cool. Larry June is cool.
Larry June is cool for sure.
Larry June is definitely a cool rapper. He, you know, he got juice balls and shit like that.
Which are you going to take, um, take ownership of the orange?
We had that conversation. The first time, uh, we kicked it with Larry at, um, Made in America.
And he, his answer was cool as fuck. Y'all can have it too.
Damn, he's sharing shit. That's cool. She's cool. She's cool as cool.
Larry's cool. Larry's cool. That's my thing.
He was so cool when we went.
go-kart riding with him and alchemist me al and maul were competitive in trying to beat each other
i think he lit up like in the go-car place he was behind us going five miles an hour on the go-car
track lean like this we're trying to race and shit looking like nerds larry on lap one
larry i'm mad about that i lost to al by like 0.8 seconds and stuff like that i was pissed
i ain't like that shit i i need to do over that
I need a rematch, man.
A-Sat was cool until he said he was slipping out seaman.
I think that's when he lost his cool points.
That's not his fault, though.
Yeah, but you ain't have to tell us that.
We love you, A-Sap, but you don't have to tell us that.
Fab was cool.
Fad was the definition of cool.
He was cool.
Fab was definitely cool.
He was cool.
Like, 50s era, 50 was more perception of fear than I think.
There wasn't, besides people like me that bought those wife beaters,
No one was like I want to be like
and dress like 50.
A lot of people wanted to dress like that.
Yeah, people bought Junick t-shirts and shit,
but 50 wasn't like a style icon
the way maybe
I don't say Ho was a style icon,
but when he said something people wore it.
50 wasn't really that.
That wasn't his thing.
But he was coming at the tail end again
of the gangsta rap shit
and Kanye's era came in.
And people's wearing big ass t-shirts
from the South.
Yeah, 50 really wasn't that per se.
The coolest rapper ever is Snoop, though.
Yeah.
They got to be Snoop, though.
Snoop is cool because Snoop, I don't think Snoop cares about being cool and that is what makes him cool.
Like, I don't even think he be trying to do shit to be cool and it's just like cool.
Well, that's what makes you cool.
You're not trying to be cool.
You just are.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Snoop is probably the coolest rapper ever.
Yeah.
I think Three Stacks and Big Boy, like, as a duo is like the coolest yin and yang.
both of them are completely different but both super cool yeah that would put outcast there
but see there's people that would look at you and say you're crazy for saying that when i say cool
i mean like everybody would think they're cool most people would not think that they're cool
that Andre 3000 is cool that Andre yeah they weren't they weren't labeled as like cool the way they
like well Andre the way he dressed and stuff like that that's not typically cool that wouldn't be
Andre 3000 is one of the coolest dudes ever ice cold was his name
Ice cold.
What's cool with them being cool?
Ice cold.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah, I'm not saying that it's because everyone couldn't dress that way.
Yeah.
Like it was...
Yeah, you wear the shit that anybody can't pull off.
If you had a little bit of money when Kanye first came out and you just wanted to buy a Louis Vuitton backpack and a polo, you could do that.
That was accessible.
You had to go thrifting and search for shit.
Like, you have to go find eagle feathers in Vancouver to go dress like fucking three stacks.
But people thought he was cool.
And Big Boy was, he was on the pimps shit.
Like, he was cool as fuck.
Wrest in peace, Nip.
Nip was cool as fuck.
Cool, super cool.
Nip was cool.
He comes from the Snoop family tree of cool.
Yeah, Nip was cool as fuck.
Naturally cool.
Yeah.
Damn, yeah.
When he came to, I was like, oh, this is not a facade.
The aura changed where he walked in.
Like, he was by far the coolest person in there.
Yeah.
He came just him in Lauren London, in a Porsche, no security.
Like, he, yeah, he was like,
coolest person in the room and it wasn't even close.
Like, he was one of those.
Rest of peace, net.
Yeah. While we're speaking of West Coast,
right before we started recording,
YG was detained in LA
for the Draco.
I've heard people say,
Drakio, Draco, which one is it? Because I get corrected every time.
Dracio.
Draccio. It's Draco, yeah.
Thank you.
Okay. I want to make sure, because I've said Draccio before
and I've been threatened by the West Coast,
and I think he was one of the
modern greatest of the West,
and I think everyone has used his flow,
so I want to get it correctly.
But YG was detained in connection to his murder.
There was a search warrant at his crib or studio,
wherever it was.
But tonight, as you're hearing this,
we don't know if it happened or not,
but there is the versus against gain in YG in a few hours.
But if he was detained,
maybe they released them already.
Yeah, detained doesn't mean arrested, obviously.
But, you know, away from just being able to
do the verses, it is very interesting that he was detained and is being investigated in connection
with Draco's, uh, with murder.
So it means, you know, it's, that's not a good thing.
You don't ever want to be part of an investigation.
You don't ever want to be detained by police for anything, but we will have to wait
and see what comes of this if anything comes to this.
Um, but yeah, I mean, he, he isn't arrested.
so he should, diverse,
he should still be able to go on tonight.
We kind of felt like something was going to happen
leading up to this.
I don't know if it was this.
No, I didn't expect this.
I mean, because, you know, the murder was
almost five years ago.
And, you know, I'm not trying to down the efforts
of the Los Angeles Police Department,
but usually if it's been that long,
it kind of feels like maybe the cops have checked the fuck out.
Yeah.
So, yes, that is a little surprising.
and in connection to YG, I'm not even going to pretend
nor want to know whatever history ties between that
or whatever, what happened at the festival.
None of my business.
But yes, I will say that the timing is definitely
interesting to say the least.
So I'm sure we'll hear much more about that
as the days go.
I talk to a lot of people on the West Coast over this week.
They thought we were kind of crazy.
Why?
In our discussion, we didn't really pick a winner.
We said we weren't particularly sure
and did say that YG has a lot of records
that would work well in aversis and at parties.
Everyone I talked to things,
YG is going to clean him up.
And these are people from the West Coast
that grew up on game as well,
around my age, like, nah,
versus those YG records,
especially since they're doing it
on the West Coast and there's going to be a West Coast crowd,
the reactions to those records are going to look different.
Didn't we say that in here, though?
Like, YG has the records that at a verse has probably performed better.
I feel like we said that one.
I think, yeah, I think they just heard us giving Game a lot of credit and they probably
interpret it.
Like, they think it's going to be a suite.
A sweep?
They're on that side.
No, no.
Game is not getting swept in avert.
I think our New York bias comes in a lot because we look at game the way we look at game
and over in New York.
Listen, and I want to make this very clear.
This is not anyone on this podcast.
opinion, even if you try to clip it, whatever.
Somebody from the West Coast said pre-beef,
YG would give Kendrick a long night in verses.
How people revere YG in a versus setting
is much higher than I expected.
But if they go out every weekend,
I'm sure YG is a great majority of the songs that they hear
with how long he's been around in the hit set he has,
so I get it.
But I hope this does happen tonight.
Obviously, YG has some things going on.
But I like both their music, so I'm here for this one.
Yeah, I mean, again, the verses setting with the crowd being there,
obviously we know the records that both of these artists have.
But I can see how people are leaning towards YG having the better performing records
when it comes to this type of platform.
Game probably has better songs.
Game is probably the best for that.
is probably the better rapper,
but when you're talking about just throwing on a record
in the crowd reacting,
YG has a lot of those.
He has a lot of those records where
as soon as it drops, there's a
reaction. He has a lot of those, you know,
those party, club,
atmosphere, cookout,
like he has a lot of those records.
Game has some as well,
but YG probably makes it
more of a focal point to have those type of songs.
Yeah, yeah.
You saw that Stack Quo clip where he was saying he's had a lot of conversations with game
where he felt like Kendrick was dissing him for like the last 10 years.
Some of those were a little, they were reaches.
But I do think that Kendrick has this game before.
Do you think Kendrick has this game?
I think in that full clip, and we don't have to go through all of them
because some of them were just such a reach that I think it was just game being game.
But I do think that game was dis, not dissed or not like us,
us, but was mentioned and could take it as a diss when he has said, let me put y'all on game.
The Settlers was using town folk.
I mean, game did bring Drake to Compton to do that song.
Where Drake did disc Kendrick in Compton, let me put you on a game is on the documentary.
His name is game.
Yeah, I think that was a shot.
That's a fair assessment.
I think that's a really fair.
Like, everyone was like, yo, game is nuts?
I was like, I don't, is he?
Let me put you on game.
If town folks, they're both from the same fucking town, was using settlers,
and he's calling Drake a settler throughout the entire record.
Listen.
Game's not crazy for saying that Kendrick dissim.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm just saying if I'm game, I would have some questions too.
Yeah.
I would want to ask Kendrick like, yo, fam, that bar, like, what you meant?
Why you say bar like that?
You got up my fucking nerve.
That bar right there.
What you meant by that?
He said, that bar.
Yeah, let's talk about that bar right there.
That more right there.
Yeah, let's talk about that because I'm, I got questions.
That's all. I'm not mad at Game for having some type of feelings towards serving things being said.
And not only that, to me, that makes sense why, you know, game didn't show up to the pop out.
Because he's probably always felt like there was something there between him and Kendrick anyway.
Now, obviously, his alliance and his, you know, he sided with Drake.
Drake is his guy.
But I think away from that, I think, yeah, I can see Game kind of having those feelings for a while.
Like, yo, he felt like Kendrick was sending a couple shots his way.
Like, you know.
And a competitive, not a beef nature.
But like being from the same city, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, nah, like I'm, you know, it's like that type of competitive thing.
In, okay, but in a, like rapper brain, which you have to add that context into this.
Game gave Kendrick, you know, it was probably first shot from a professional reputable rapper.
Like game mixtapes had k-dot on it, took them on tour.
Yeah, for sure.
They've had a very long, long relationship.
And not to say that game owes him anything per se,
but as a rapper I may have some type of an issue of someone I've known for that long,
being cool, taking someone dissing me to my hometown to shoot a video where you're dissing me.
Yeah.
I can see that.
Like if you're standing on a Compton block saying if I didn't go pop and stayed conscious,
I would have all of your fans.
Like, game, you're going to take them to Cedar Block to say that?
I could see Kendrick not being like, yo, fuck game.
But like, that's kind of weird.
Like, if it was just a record, I get it.
But he's legitimately dissing me on the song.
Yeah.
So I could see Kendrick feeling a little bit of way.
Yeah.
But that's rapper ego shit.
There's definitely something.
They're not real serious shit.
Being from the same city, you know, it's a competitive thing.
It's a rapper ego thing.
I don't think it's a real.
beef like some street shit i don't think it's that no no but i think it's definitely like the rap
ego being from the same city type of like nudging for position type of thing like good healthy
competition i don't think that there's any real ill feelings between these two but you know
obviously people are going to try to paint it that way and then game not going to the pop out
and addressing why he didn't go and things like that it kind of put in the middle i guess a little further
wedge in between him and kendrick's relationship if you
will. I don't know, you know, personally their relationship. But, you know, just on the outside
looking in, it's, it's, there's definitely something between these two, but I don't think it's like
a beef. I don't think it's that. That would have been a good gauge for tonight's versus. Because
YG's set at the pop out was great and you could see the reception that he got for that like 10, 12 minutes
that he did. I'm curious what the reaction would have been because I game popping out, that stadium would
have went nuts. Oh, yeah. Oh, for the for the, for the,
Pop out.
Yeah.
If game came out.
This is what I'm saying.
Like it's so crazy.
You know, again, I think this versus is going to be very interesting just to see, you know,
the hook could because now it's, again, it's, it's who's in the room.
The energy in the room is who's there?
What is the crowd?
Is it a younger crowd?
Is it a little older crowd?
Like, who's in the room?
I just hope Y.G goes by himself.
If you have the cops knowing where everybody is, no.
If I know YG, I'm not going to that.
Innocent, guilty, I'm not going to any.
There's an address of where we're going to be in a time after people are getting detained.
Yeah.
Why should go there to, just him and Karen Civil.
Yeah.
That's it.
Should show up to that.
What time is that tonight?
I feel Khalid, man.
I feel them, man.
Why?
Listen, the very few people that I'm grateful for that keep asking me where my album is,
they don't know that I just saw the Jay-Z show.
So I got to push it back.
I saw, I got inspired that like, nah, let's push this back.
I was going to put it out the next day and I was like, nah.
Yeah.
No, I can't do that.
Come boy.
I just saw feeling it.
Like, I can't, come on.
You got inspired by how I'm that came out 30 years ago.
Yeah, that's funny.
That's what so.
Callag, just her reasonable doubt that day.
Yeah, that's what's up.
But I mean, this, all right.
I want to say this respectfully.
I feel like it's going to come off like it's not.
This is not a shot at Caled.
But Callid's marketing is to be full of shit.
What do you mean?
He's one of the best marketers of,
they hate us, they've been doubted.
Like no one knows who they is.
It's all just full of shit taglines.
He's a great marketer.
It's like, you know, it's like riddles.
He's a character of himself.
And I don't mean that in a bad way.
That's why he's so successful.
That's why we love him.
Like, this is going to be the greatest song of all time.
was like, we know it's not better than the Rihanna Bryson Siller record.
Don't tell me that this little baby song is going to be that.
It's not.
His whole marketing scheme is being full of shit.
So it's right on par.
Yeah, pushed it back because I went to Roots picnic and I said, nah, no more album.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's all Cali's whole thing.
He's like a motivational speaker too that's also full of shit.
Yeah, but it's different this time, though.
As a person, he's not full of shit.
I want to make that clear.
I don't know him.
No, just it's just promotion.
As a marketer, he's full of shit and marketing's full of shit.
Everybody in marketing the promotion is full of shit at some point.
You got to,
that's part of marketing and promotion.
You got to put some bullshit in the game.
Like if Caled did these real serious sit downs and like long podcasts,
we really got to know him and the inner workings of how he,
then I'd be like,
well, this is corny.
But everything Calid has done to promote other artists,
his label,
his music has been this and this is why we like it.
So yeah,
I laughed at it.
But I respect that he keeps coming up with even more creative lives to why.
his album's not out.
Yeah.
I mean,
I think we all know
why his album
is getting pushed back
or why he's pushing back
his album
because I'm pretty sure
he has enough music
to put his album out
if he wants to put it out.
I mean,
Cald is smart
and because he is this great marketer,
Caled doesn't have the ability
to just put an album out
and it be successful
if he just dropped something.
He doesn't have a core fan base
that's just going to pay attention
and do that.
He needs to have a big single
with two A-less artists and do a proper rollout.
That's why I didn't believe two weeks ago
that that shit was coming out.
There's no records.
Who would those two A-less artists be right now?
I don't know, because I think that's also why
the last two Khalid albums,
I felt weren't that great.
It's funny.
His albums sometimes are really a reflection
of where music is at currently.
Because Calid is going to get the biggest artist
no matter what.
And at the time, like, you know,
he got Drake and Little Baby,
but I thought that song was dirt.
Like, it reflected the time.
times and right now I wouldn't know who that would be either to your your question well why he keeps
pushing it back because he's not going to get I don't think he's going to get a record from the big
three I don't think he's going to get one from Nikki I think he could get one easily from future
or Travis Scott but they'd be throwaways that I don't think would be that great I don't know if
there's a with his strategy if there is a pool of artists that he can really pick from where
Calid will go number one with an album and how he handled the Tyler thing a few years ago
I think Caled is a little sensitive and has a strange ego when it comes to numbers.
I think he's shown us that.
So I think Caled is scared that if he puts something out, it could really flop if he doesn't have the proper A-list rollout.
And listen, as a Hov-Venger, I don't know if Hove doing the intro can save you.
I don't know if that's going to get it done.
Because that's what saved it last time and that was just one record.
Yeah, but I was just great to say there's only one artist.
he creates moments.
He could probably have on a lead single right now
where it would do something
and that's Jay.
He's done that so much and I'm, listen,
if Callan wants to go get a J versus,
no one's going to fucking complain.
Go get Kendrick.
Kendrick's not doing that though.
Go get Jay Cole.
I don't think Cole's doing that.
Then who are you going to get?
That was kind of what I was just,
there's no pool right now that I think.
You said who?
Let me just say it
Because Pete said, why wouldn't Jay Cole do it?
Let me just say it.
Nobody wants to hit Jay Cole on a lead single from Calid.
That's not who Jay Cole is.
I don't want to hear that.
Nobody wants to hear that.
Unless 21 Savage is on it.
Sorry.
Jay Cole and 21 Savage, don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.
I just like Cal's biggest strength to me
as an executive producer was creating moments.
And I just don't know if there's artists that have moments
that we care about like that right now in the Khalid lens.
Like, yeah, it would be cool for Cole to give him a record,
but it would have to be a moment where it's with an artist we don't expect
Cole to be with or on a beat that we don't expect Cole to be on.
Unless he wants to go all the way left field
and do some type of hip-hop record with Taylor Swift,
post-Malone.
He's going to have to pivot.
His pivot going to have to have to.
look like a travel in the NBA.
Like his pivot, he's going to have to drag his pivot.
Like, because, and let's just be what it is.
You had two Drake songs.
You don't have those no more.
I don't care who you are.
That shifts your entire out.
Okay, but I also kind of feel the same way about that.
And same with the J thing.
Like, no, I would never be mad if Khalid went and got another five-minute J-verse.
No, I'd never be mad if Callid went and got a Drake record.
That can't be the least single.
He's done that every time where it's like-
I'm talking a lead single.
And I'm saying that.
That can't, like, that doesn't really get it done.
Didn't he put out a song?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I haven't heard it.
I feel like I saw a Cali video.
You're thinking of him with Joe and Jada and Stovegod.
But again, that wasn't his record.
That was he, he just happened to be on the episode that day.
Future low baby.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe Hov and Juan were in the office listening to one of them.
Yeah.
That didn't work.
Yeah.
I knew he put a record out.
I just couldn't remember the record.
Calid has to find some, I'm not saying some new sound
and some like abstract way.
Way, way, way, way, way, way, way,
putting the same artist on the same beat is not going to do anything.
No, no, no, no, hold on, bro.
This is different.
I totally forgot about this record.
That's Future and Little Baby as your lead single.
The snippet, when the snippet came out, we said that was going to come and go.
Well, a little baby ain't really getting it done for the number one single no more.
Future?
Future is on the song.
Yeah, future.
but at the time
future didn't have an album album.
Debuted at number 70?
Damn, bro.
Yeah,
this is a bigger conversation to have, man.
She's about to look real different.
Number 70?
When I heard that snippet and then that record,
that told me that
you know what?
Maybe Calid isn't lying about that Yankee Stadium shit.
When I heard that Future in a little baby shit,
I said, oh,
Calid is officially checked out
of actually caring about the music too,
outside of the moment and the marketing.
Because Khaled, outside of the last two,
has made great albums.
Like, Caled really does have a good body of work
when you get into it.
I know now it doesn't appear that way,
but last 10 years, yes,
there's been great Calib moments and albums.
Maybe he did get inspired and go, yeah,
I've been lazy and I'm just doing lazy dog shit.
Yo, Future, you got something?
Oh shit, open verse, yo, baby, I'll email us to you.
Let's put it out.
That's lazy.
Maybe he was inspired.
Maybe he realized that that Future and Baby record was dog shit.
It was lazy.
It was lazy. It wasn't a moment.
And said, you know what?
I got to get back to the drawn board and care about the shit again.
But even if he cares about it.
Yeah, but he, but this is, but not to because what you're saying, Roy, I can't roll with that because he announced the 17th as a release date after that song didn't work.
He put that song out in April and then told us the 17th.
When you get complacent and lazy, sometimes you.
have a delusional point of view of your career.
And you think anything you put out,
people are going to gobble up and love until it doesn't happen.
And then you're like, oh, okay, yeah, this is kind of shitty.
Yo, I don't, yeah, I don't know what Cal are going to do at this point.
But also, I think it speaks to, like you said,
it shows the landscape of hip hop.
His albums usually show the landscape of hip hop at the time.
We have been talking about the landscape of hip hop not being the greatest right now.
So I don't even think that's on Khalid at this moment because even if,
No, no, no, we can't do that.
No, no, no, we can't do that.
You can't do that.
All right, then show me how good you really are.
We can't.
We can't, show me how good you really are as an exact.
No, no, no, no.
I'm going to tell you why we can't make that as an excuse.
Because if he had those two Drake records, this album would be out.
Okay, but that's, so we can't say the landscape of hip-hop.
We can't say none of that.
But that's not what that's not.
The lead single did not work.
That doesn't mean that the album would be good.
I'm not talking about the album.
I'm not, no, no, last time you had two Drake records on that album.
I'm not talking about that album.
I'm not talking about the album being good.
I'm talking about the album being released already.
Okay, that's fine.
But I don't, the album, even if the album was released,
the album is probably not released because the album is not going to be good.
But if he had two Drake album, if he had two Drake singles,
would it be released?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that the album would be good.
So now if you don't have the Drake singles,
then the album has to be good,
which is probably why it's not coming out,
because where would you go to make the album good?
Where would you go outside of the same people that you've already put on it?
To me, I'm no music.
executive, I'm just a fan of the culture and music and hip hop. To me, the album is not out because
the lead single did not work. The future little baby song did not work. No, of course.
So all of this I got inspired to Rory's point, maybe he did. Maybe he felt like, damn, like I need
to really go in here and pay more attention to detail to the music, like not just grab people
and put them on records because of their names and thinking people will click on the song because of their
names, whatever it is. I'm saying it's a safe assumption that it's.
If he had those two Drake songs, this album will be out.
Now, whether that album would be good or not, that's subjective.
I'm saying the album would be out, is what I'm saying.
And it's not because he had to pivot,
future little baby record, didn't work.
Now what?
To Demarces's point, is there anything else on his album that's good,
anything that's going to get people like, I don't know.
But it's a safe assumption that if he had the lead single,
which would have been a Drake record,
and then had another Drake record on the album,
this album would have been out.
Well, I mean, that's, that's just a catch-22 of your whole marketing plan
being getting A-listers together,
and then the concept of A-list superstars is now gone
when it comes to the new crowd.
So now you have to go back to drumboard.
Like, that's it.
And he kind of shot himself in the foot when he dissed Tyler,
when he didn't get the number one.
She's like, nobody trying to hear that shit, bro.
Tyler outstreams.
Every record you put out in the last however many years.
Outstreams, anything future a little baby is going to put out right now.
That whole world that you thought was nerds and weirdos are making one incredible music,
two streaming very well, selling hard tickets, they're relevant, people care about them,
they want to support them, and you diss that entire universe.
Because you thought the only way to get to the top is to fuck with A-listers.
Now he has to go and maybe beg Bad Bunny to do something with NBA Youngblood.
boy. Like he's got a sick ass collab right here. I do too. If you get that one done,
I'm not mad at it. That's a sick ass collab. That's a sick ass collab. That's a sick ass collab. Benito and
NBA young boy? I want to hear it kind of. That's a sick ass collab. I wouldn't be mad at.
But I'm saying if he if he wants to get back to creating good records in moments, he's going to have to do that shit.
Because you just a whole, a whole part of music right now. There's a major shift that has happened in music.
especially in our genre and our culture.
There's a major shift that has happened
creatively, artistically,
sonically,
I think a lot has changed
and I think we're just starting to,
like we're in it now.
So we're going to start seeing it.
We're going to start feeling it.
But yes, it's apparent
that there has been a major,
major shift in music.
So.
Yeah.
Maybe he can get J.I.D.
in coal.
Co-working with anybody else other than J.R.D.
Yeah, and y'all
So, y'all not going to say that I was right.
Like, you still not ready to sit.
We gave you your flowers.
Did you?
Mad long, when J.I.D. tweeted.
We came in here.
Because it's flowers died.
Nah, I don't know.
I don't remember getting flowers, baby, Dee.
I don't remember getting flowers.
I'll get the monthly subscription.
So you go to your house.
Yeah, they go to your house every week.
I just don't remember getting flowers.
That's all I'm saying.
No, when, when J.I.D.
tweeted and deleted all that.
I came in here and said, bro, I, no, no, no, no.
I argued you down.
I was completely wrong.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But something else happened since then.
Oh, I haven't seen.
Cole put out a whole album where he was working with.
What's the dude's name?
Oh, is his man from North Carolina?
Whole album, a homie.
The whole album is crazy.
I think he gave him two songs.
No, he produced the entire thing.
He produced it, yeah.
He produced the entire thing in his own three records.
Two verses in it and one of them's a hook.
Okay, so, okay.
It was not a bad project, either, by the way.
Respectfully, everybody clowns, Cole's production all the time anyway.
So it ain't like he, it ain't like Kanye produced it.
Yo, baby Digo's swing.
for Cole.
I'm not just swing that back.
No, it's actually she's doing the opposite and I was going to make that point too.
Respectfully, I don't think J.I.D. wants an entirely produced Jake Cole.
That's what I'm about it. Like, that ain't no gift.
Like, Jay Cole doesn't want an entirely produced Jake Cole.
Y.
I'm missing the point. Yes, he do. He do want that.
Nobody did it for the first one. And then after that was like, I was saying J.I.D.
wants an entire album produced by J. Cole.
I'm saying what I've been saying.
Dumb niggins ain't on no songs together.
We've been said that.
We agreed with you mad long ago.
No, but then this case.
out and y'all didn't say nothing about that you want us to agree with you again
at least be like yo ma'an ain't gonna lie it's yeah it's looking it's looking like they're not
they don't fuck with each other we already said that no you ain't say that you didn't say that
when he put the tweet out when he put the tweets out we said damn maw you got a point you
probably right they don't fuck with each other because of the tweets it's obvious something's wrong
we had a whole episode about it you said that yes oh did we already say that I don't know
I don't know he's he's holding out for the the Calid moment
with J.I.D. and Cole.
This is, you know, that entire
PFG album is part of Callid's rollout
to start the tension between the J.I.D. and Cole shit.
That's all it is.
That's going to be the moment.
Damn, man.
You want to be a cool moment that Khaled
could do if they're in a good place?
What?
Cuevo and Offset.
That would be a cool moment.
I would like that moment just because
their family and everything that happened,
but that would be a moment.
Yo, look what he, Cala got to get family back together.
Yeah.
No, now it's time to, yo, now it's time to be an executive.
The music still got to be good, though.
I don't care about niggas policing up a relationship.
The music got to be good.
If the music ain't good, none of that shit matters no more.
Well, anything on the hard drive, I want them to save for whatever Migos tribute album that they put out.
Save all that.
Don't give that to nobody.
But I think Kuevo and offset, if they were in a good space personally,
both have the ability to make a great song together.
A new song, the two of them in 2026.
Do we think Calla goes Cardi?
I'm assuming so.
Both together.
Cardi, Cardi squared?
That's working.
Call it Cardiere.
Does he go there?
No, I don't want to hear that.
I don't hear that either.
I'm just throwing shit out.
We just, we just, we just whiteboarding right now.
We just throwing shit up.
Which is probably what the fuck he was doing,
Is he trying to figure out who the fuck?
Oh, he's doing more than that.
Unless you're going to keep reusing the same artist over and over and over and for every
album, who are you?
Unless you jump completely into the new generation.
You have to jump completely into the new generation.
But this was also inevitable too because people do start to age.
Caled did a great job of even when he was starting to age, still fucking with the young
artist.
It's not like all the Caled albums were all legacy acts or artists' age.
He was fucking with the young artists.
But he may just get into the age that this new set of young artists just really ain't for me.
Like this was eventually.
going to happen. Call had tried to stay
relevant and did with a generation
below him and I applaud him for that because that's difficult
but two generations below you
yeah. Because Cal is not cool to them and I don't mean that as a slight
the young kids, that's not their thing.
Calle are going to get a Farrell and Jay record.
I want to hear it. Yeah, no, I want to hear it.
Like I can see that being a move.
Or clips in Jay.
You think Beyonce going to breathe on a record for him?
Listen, Beyonce has been sitting
next to three chairs for the past month.
It means act three is coming.
Like y'all not paying attention to the clues
that she's given us. Yeah.
Now, Beyonce's Act three tomorrow.
Act three is not tomorrow.
As they're listening to this, Act three dropped.
No.
She babysitting, she got babysitting her kids right now.
Babysitting your own kids is crazy.
Yeah, babysitting her kids right now.
How you babysitting her kids?
You mean she's being a mom?
She got babysitting her own kids.
No, because you're a mom 24-7.
But, you know, she got her kids right now.
Jay usually happens when she on tour.
Or Jay on tour, she got the kids.
kids.
So.
Babesitting your kids is funny as...
He's doing spot days.
It's, you know.
It's Jay time right now.
Act three will be out in 2028.
I think 28?
Nah, two years, no way.
You think 2027?
Yeah.
If not, there's two different photos of three...
I think we get Act three the same day
we get Doomsday, Marvel.
Damn, play on words.
Yeah, I think we get the same day.
December 18th?
I can see B.D. something around that time.
I mean, listen,
Calid is Rock Nation.
Jay could ask Beyonce for a favor?
What record's not making Act 3?
Pass it over here.
You know why that's a tough spot?
This is why that's a tough spot,
and we can move on after this,
but because the first single didn't work,
whatever single he goes with next,
there's a lot of pressure.
Yeah, you can't play with this one.
You can't.
I don't think there's pressure.
I don't think anybody's looking for it
for there to be pressure.
But their internal world is.
Oh, like the...
Yeah, yeah.
I'm talking about...
I don't think...
That could still be successful.
Just because you have a dud in this era,
you could come out three weeks later
and no one's going to remember that shit if this shit is good.
But it's just a lot of...
But for the song to work,
it's a lot of pressure on whatever artist that is.
Because now...
Because this will be the backup plan, right?
The first single didn't work.
The next one out of the chamber,
got to work.
So if you go...
Huh?
he got to go with
Tim's
he got to go with Tims
or Kalani
I don't know if I want to hear
the Kaylani Cali record
I'm cool with a
a Thames-Calid record
to me
makes sense
Tims and
did Tems and Gunna have a record
not that I know of
let's look that up
because I could have forgotten
no
I could see a
Thames and Gunna
if the right favors
were pulled
Tim's and Gunner
I like that
That sounds palatable
That would be good
I like that
That sounds palatable
I'm not mad at that
I would click on that
To hear what they did
I don't want to hit Beaver
Beavis is always a good
Good backup for Khalid
When he needs it
But we got the
How many Calibaba records we got
Could him out
And I feel like if it ain't
A Calibaba record
Beaver record
Bebeer record gonna sound like
A Caller record
Like I don't want to hear that
The Bebs and Thames
That chemistry on the
Coachella stage.
You never know.
I'm sure they've worked.
I do think Caled is going to a lot of studio sessions and listening to a lot of hard drives.
I'll say that.
One million.
I'll say that.
He's been in New York for a while.
Yes.
He's been working.
Well, let's, I mean, let's look at the Billboard.
I'm not mad if Tim's going to.
Billboard put out a list of the top.
I say Farrell, Jay.
I can see Thames and Leon Thomas.
Caled does like to focus on who, like,
the up-and-coming big act is as well.
He got to have rap on it, though.
The first single got to be rap.
Do it?
I do it.
Yes.
Some of his biggest hits are not rap at all.
His biggest hit is Breonna and Bryson.
He didn't rap.
It's rap adjacent, though.
Bryson is kind of like, it's R&B, but it's rap.
Nah.
Yeah, I mean, it's Bryson.
It's R&B.
That's what he does both.
So it's kind of, you know, that's Bryson.
So it's not.
and popped also I'm the one is pop wild thoughts is pop
look who's on there
rap
it has to be rap
it has to be
you're same ones but if you go to like the top stream ones
if we want to make that matter because it does
the call it like the first four
three out of four are not rap
wild thoughts is what song are you talking about
I'm the one wild thoughts for free
and just way and the chance the rap is on there that's rap
yeah but I'm the one is not
a rap song. It's a pop song. Is Wayne rapping on there? It's not a, just because
my rap song doesn't make it a rap song. It's a pop song. I said it needs rap. You have to have
a rapper on the record, which is why I said I like Tim's Gunner. That is palatable to me.
But you need Gunner, you got to have rap on there somewhere. He can't just give us full
straight R&B as the least thing. Does Greece have any rap on it? No. Wild thoughts, no.
I don't think so. I don't think so. No, bro.
If Caled was, if this was like 10 years ago and that Young Miami record came out, yes, I could see Callet and Young Miami.
That would be the next single for sure.
But I don't know if Young Miami is going to give that to Khalid.
Maybe that's why she left the tour.
Because Callet said it.
She got to go do the record.
Again, I mean disrespectful.
I don't know if Calut's in that position now where every artist is like, oh, that's the cool thing for me to do right now.
No.
So, I don't know, we'll see.
Remember Holy Key was a thing?
I know who he got to go get
I ain't going to say it
because I don't work for Calais
but I know who he got to go get
I know who can save him right now
Trace Long's?
Who?
I'm so sorry
No, I know who I know who
could give him a bomb right now for sure
But he got to pay me for that
All right, we'll bleep it
Can you say it because we want to
Don's Oliver
I figured you would say that
Yeah
But also now you're acting
like the commenters that I hate.
Like that is, that's kind of,
I'm sure Caled has thought of that.
Like, I'm sure that's,
that's been a conversation
in a Rock Nation office that,
hey, we should go get that guy.
They did one together?
Years ago?
Yeah, but Don is in a whole different
space right now.
Whole different, I like the whole different space.
You know, he's in a whole different space.
Yeah, that would definitely work.
For sure.
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But you guys see the Billboard.
RIP, T. Keith.
Yes, definitely R&P.
Sorry, his name was just listed as the producer for that track.
We got another list.
Of course, halfway through the year.
How could we stop?
But at least R&B is getting some looks on these.
Halfway through the year, the staff picks from Billboard.
hottest R&B acts of 2026.
Kind of just more on the side of reading them.
I don't know if we're going to get a big argument out of this one.
I love how they put this,
how they put staff picks now so that billboard doesn't get like,
now all the writers get like in trouble for it.
The hottest, K1 and number 10 is already wrong for me.
But where would she be?
She got to be higher than.
Top five.
All pride side is really, really bad.
K1 is hotter than Givion right now.
y'all know i love givian that is a fact
duran bernar he might need to be hired he was just nominated for how many grimmies
a lot yeah well let's see who's hired in them before we make that judgment
brent all of them people need to be hired in brent respectfully right now and i love i mean i
really like brent's album but i hear you were okay duran k1 and they said hottest i don't know
Hivion.
Givion, yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
They have Givion at, I mean, they have Duran at 8 and they have Brent at 7.
Joe Scott at 6.
Okay.
Listen, where I just disagree with this list is the word hottest.
That's what I'm focusing.
Yes, hot.
Like, I like Jill Scott's album, but hottest, like even to give you, I don't know,
Givion's the hottest.
No.
Chris Brown is selling out stadiums.
Well, he's number five.
He's number five.
Okay.
Ray is number four.
Ray of four, who I really love.
Ray is really hot, but I don't know if she's hotter than Chris Brown right now.
Tim's is hot.
I don't know if Tim's is hotter than K1 in Durand right now.
Is she R&B?
And is she R&B?
And is she R&B.
Which is her R&B songs go crazy, but I don't know if that's the bulk of her.
The core of her stuff is definitely Afro beats.
Her solo stuff is Afro beats to me, but she sings R&B on Afropeats.
So, yeah, she can go in 2026, maybe.
that is R&B. Afro beats is one of the biggest genres, but there's going to be some type of
gray area. Okay. Like, I wouldn't say she is an R&B, but she's not like a solely an R&B artist,
like a K. Lonnie is two. He was number two last year. So he ain't buzzed? Kaylani is number one right
now. I'm not mad at that. I just think Chris Brown should be top three. Yes, I agree.
Chris Brown is hotter than Leon Thomas is hot, but Chris Brown is always hotter than these
people.
I almost,
y'all know how I feel
about Leon,
but I love Liam.
The person that's opening up
for the guy
can't be higher
on the list.
Than the guy.
We'll be talking.
The opener can't be
hotter than the headline.
I almost,
I almost was gonna buy tickets
to that Usher Chris Brown
show,
but then I saw a clip
and Usher got his ass out.
I'm like, yeah.
Oh, Usher got his ass out.
Oh, wait.
By the top tickets right now.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm cool, man.
I can't.
That ain't for me.
I think that's for the lady.
I think it's the ladies
only tour.
Respectable both of those legends,
but I think I'm going to sit this one out.
Well, in the clip, you'll probably know when that set is,
like when he brings the lamp out, I'll just close your eyes.
No, no, no, no, I'm cool.
Let me zoom in?
I think it's the ladies only.
Ladies only, I believe.
I think that's what the ticket say, Roar.
I mean, it's just butt sheets.
I like you got a dick out.
You barely saw a crack.
That's a whole crack.
I see more of P's crack in this fucking office than that.
Yeah, that's not going to stop me from singing,
you got it bad at the show.
Mind you, the person on the phone zoomed in.
If you were at the show,
I don't even think you would notice that.
Maybe that was just at that show and his pants sagged.
Like maybe that's not part of the-
No, that's part of it.
Yeah.
First of all, Usher is, he might be in a midlife crisis.
Let's talk about it.
Oh, hell.
He got his ass out on tour, on his tour right now.
We love Usher.
Super legend.
He got his ass out at the show.
And then he came to the Yankee Stadium with Jay-Z with his chest out.
Yeah.
I mean, he's an R&B singer.
Let's bring back.
No, let's bring back.
You can put a shirt on, man.
No, R&B used to be shirtless.
At the Jay-Z show, you can put your fucking shirt on.
Nah, fuck that.
You got a leather jacket on with no shirt.
Ooh, R&B.
That's real R&B.
This is Jay-Z's concert.
So?
Put a shirt on, fan.
How many rappers take their shirts off?
You can't say this is Jay-Z's concert.
Ain't no rapper take their shirt off at J-Z's concert.
Who had their shirt off?
That shit was the only nigga in the whole stadium with the shirt.
I guarantee R. Kelly had his shirt off at one of them show.
Yeah, 100%.
It was two shows.
No, no, he did.
what we talk about
it was two shows
he took his shirt off
to cover his eyes
it was two shows
maybe three
and no he did not
yeah I'm just saying
I should go through something
right now
he's trying
I don't think he's going
through something
he has R&B shit
I like that
he's the eldest
but how many rap shows
is rappers
just where they shirt
off the whole time
we're talking about
at a Jay Z concert
why do y'all
I've never seen
Tupac's
I'm saying a JZ show
I'm talking about
a rap show
I'm talking about JZ's
what is okay so
it's still a rap show
what makes his show
so different
all right never mind
that people can't have their shirts off at it.
And they were performing throwback.
They were a confession's record.
He's a guest.
He's a guest.
I've definitely had my shirt off at a guest house before.
That's why they didn't invite you back.
You're going to buy the act.
You're a guest.
Keep your fucking shirt on.
Yeah.
I like it.
That's usher, man.
Nah, man.
You were singing the hook.
The game in YG got a new song.
Produced by Swiss and Timberland,
the day that the verses created by Swiss and Timberlin happened.
Coincidence.
I just know if today is the day to talk about organized crime.
Well, maybe they had like scheduled it to come out.
Maybe it was pre-knit.
No, it sounds great.
Good West Coast sample.
Got that sample probably 200 times already.
Still works every time.
No, that's what the same is.
That's what the same is to grab the ear.
Like this sounds familiar.
I know this song.
But it's like, you know.
You a hater a little bit.
How?
A little bit.
Telling us to keep a shirt on is, is hate.
at a Jay Z
I'm not saying
Keep his shirt on at him and Chris Brown show
When you're coming out to sing a hook with Jay Z
You can put a fucking shirt on bro
Hey what are we going
He was I mean they was backstage for mad fucking long
Maybe he spilled something on it
In the meantime
There was mad merch in the building
There was merch everywhere
That nigga could have put on a douce tee shirt
He could have put on a duce tee shirt
He could have put on a Yenkees jersey
He could have put on all kind of shit
No he's in his name
I'm telling you, he knows he's the eldest statesman in R&B.
He on tour with this young, hot nigga, Chris Brown.
He wanted to show, nigga, I'm in shape.
I'm 40-plus years old.
My shit.
That's not a mid-life.
Like, if he looks like Bobby Brown now and came out without his shirt, I'd be like,
this may be a mid-life price.
He should put a shirt on.
You know, body-shaming.
That's called body-shaming, baby, D.
Am I correct?
Oh, I think.
Is that called body-shaming, baby, D?
Am I correct?
Oh, my correct, baby, D.
Is that body-samey yes or no?
I think we need more of that in the way.
worlds. Yes, I'm body shaving. See, I'm not body shaming. My body doesn't look great.
I keep my motherfuck shirt on. Put a shirt on at a Jay Z show. You don't got a sexy
niggas out at a Jay Z show. This ain't that. This nigga up here.
You guys wasn't playing about Fiesta. You're not half naked with the doves.
What? Or I mean, with the dancers, not the dubs, the dancers.
Yonse was not half naked. She had on the t-shirt and shorts.
Them shorts was this long, bull. All right, so she didn't have fucking Caprize on. So now,
so that means she was half naked?
ass was out and that's okay
And respectfully
Yeah, one of why I complaining about that
Because it's us here. We can't, the ladies can't get nothing
I'm just saying this is
It's first of all that's Jay's wife
So cool
Nicker you were a guest
Put a shirt on bro
This ain't this is hip hop
This ain't sexy time
Don't you come try to sexy out Yankee Stadium
You performed throwback
A Confessions record
Yes it was sexy time
It was sexy time of the show
He did that song
Mad Times with a shirt on.
He performed those records.
Matter of fact, I saw him at
his show at Barclays last year
and he had a shirt off. You, Mall's talking
like Jada Kiss came out with a shirt off.
We told him an R&B singer named Usher.
I don't care. I don't think he's going through
a midlife crisis. I just think he
still got his body. When he sit down with
what's my guy's name that anybody sit down when they're having a midlife
price? Oh, you know what? I'm going to get Mall here.
Jay Shetty? Who's that?
Demaris, what's more of a midlife crisis?
Usher coming out with his shirt off
or Jay-Z at his age
with security wearing a bulletproof vest on stage.
What's more of a mid-life crisis?
What's more of a mid-life crisis?
How's that a mid-life crisis?
Like, first of all, it's an anniversary
to his 30-year album.
That's a uniform that represents his music.
Usher without a shirt is a uniform of his music.
That's what R&B singers do.
No, it's not.
And I think there's nothing wrong with Jay
wearing a bulletproof vest.
I love you.
That's because these niggas don't have nice bodies no more.
And that's my point.
Again, y'all back the body shaming.
Make R&B.
You and Rory on the same page
We want people to be healthy.
Y'all body shame.
Stop drinking, lean, and do some sit-ups.
I'm saying at a Jay-Z anniversary show,
you could come out, do your R&B shit,
you can put a shirt on.
If you can wear a bill of proof vest,
which I thought was great,
I thought that was the coolest shit
that Hove could wear for those anniversaries,
I think somebody, his age
from his era as an R&B artist
when they're in shape,
should go no shirt.
We're representing the heiress.
Crazy as hell.
I want fine niggas back in music again.
Remember L.L.
these rappers don't look like L no more
every rapper is ugly as the fuck
and I'm tired of that shit
name them
no I'm cool
but I want them to look like L. L again
like I bring sexy back to music yo
that's all I'm saying
can we break right
no whoa before we do
what happened was
rappers used to take steroids
now they take OZemik
what happened
you stopped us to do that
I was gonna go into a conversation
but then you got mad
mom was like
I was sitting here like
I was going to go to a conversation,
but then you looked like
I don't want to talk.
No, he got a pee.
He wanted to talk about OZIPIC.
Shut the fuck up, man.
It's an epidemic.
No, go ahead.
Roy, you keep talking.
Let them all pee.
What you were saying about OZIPC?
You were talking about
Midlife crisis, nigga.
You can't even get up off the couch.
Oh, the one I kept trying to make,
but Ma kept stepping on it.
Peas was over here crying.
I was trying to segue,
but Maugh kept stepping on the segue.
Pete was over here dying.
I'm like, I
I'm trying to move a time, bro.
Was it about Oz epic?
No, I was trying to, no.
I was trying to say that, what the fuck was I trying to say?
The billboard list, like, transfer from Calates to the billboard list.
I did.
I did hear you do that before.
Yeah, I did hear that.
That shit was over here.
We was over here fucking dying.
Yeah, a couple of times.
I ain't need a step on your transmission, baby, D.
My bad.
Transmission.
Yeah, I ain't need to step on there.
All right, well, since we're on transmissions.
Before we get to new music, can we talk about last week?
Okay, what happened last week?
That was like one of my favorite New Music Fridays of the year.
What drop?
It was like my type of R&B all decided to drop in one day.
Like it took me a week to even get to everyone's project.
Masego, fix your face.
Shout out of Sago.
Saygo.
It's my favorite Mesego album to date.
It's hard.
It's his best music.
Amre, peyote, incredible.
And I like the fact that you ain't talking about
everybody told him
about Jay cutting his hair
why you ain't
talking about
why you ain't told him
I didn't see it
I mean the first single
yeah
it was part of it
yeah like
you know me
Sego cut his shit too
that's what's up
yeah dame
you know what I'm saying
like
just cutting their head
bitch
Sego cut his shit
oh skino
why you're not
talking about Sego
I ain't that long
like to cut it
I mean but like I like
to see you
you know what
what wavelength
with waves
you want to bring the waves
back
I may bring the way
make me see
I got vertigo already.
It's really slow clap.
That's three.
We got three slow claps.
That nigga is.
He got three.
Yo, at the four of one,
we got to test your heart monitor for stroke,
you might be stroking out again.
Check the comments.
That one's going to age well.
The internet will prove that that one was a good joke.
You guys are wrong.
Yeah, that's a slow burn.
That might be a slow burn right there.
You're right.
That's a slow burn for sure.
But also I have to give them all some
flowers outside of like yes please
Andre we already know what
it's time it is with her happy she has this
project out but it does add into mall's theory
of lesbians making the best R&B music
we forgot to add Ambre on to that list
I'm trying to tell you're not listening you're not doing the science
with me the lesbians are running R&B right now
is it that the lesbians are running R&B or is it that everybody's
a lesbian
two things can be true the matter just sheer percentages
yeah it's like sheer percentages
Two things can be true, but Sid dropped in a dope project.
Beard, which is a hilarious title.
Hilarious title.
We know what Sid doing.
Ambre, another dope project.
Did you get a chance to listen to the bearded?
Yeah.
How good is that shit?
Crazy, but Ambray went nuts.
To me she doesn't have a bad project.
She's so good.
Like, Ambray, another dope project.
Like, the lesbian is.
Because the best music is made about women.
That's why hip hop ain't good anymore.
All they want to talk about is disrespecting women.
if you were to talk about loving women,
the music is better.
Now that's just today they started on that.
Hip hop in male R&B.
Talk about loving women.
It'll get better.
Well, I mean, the R&B,
the R&B artist,
there's some gay representation
on that side as well,
good R&B.
Duran cleaning niggas up.
Smoking.
I had my second favorite album last year.
And they say Leon Thomas
look like a...
See, we're not doing that.
You ain't say that when he was here to his face.
It's crazy.
They said it.
I we...
That's crazy.
You read tweet.
We made jokes
but you're reading to the meme
when I sent it to you.
Nah, but you retweeting it though.
You retweeted.
I didn't retweet.
That's the reason.
Leon know I love him.
Whenever you say they,
first of what,
that's the December.
And Leon laughed at it.
He caught.
I'm the real I'm referring to.
He's on the real laughing.
They say that he looks like a lesbian.
Okay.
If he's okay with him,
he laughed at it.
It's funny.
They say he looked like to start.
I'm laughing.
Yeah.
But he had you laughed.
Leon, I'm only laughing because you laugh.
Like, I ain't laughing if you ain't laughing.
But we know Leon's not gay.
Leon get bitches, but they say he looks like a stuff.
You don't know his situation?
Oh, my bad.
I'm sorry.
He could be in a committed relationship.
He might get niggins and bitches.
Like, well, I didn't say that.
I meant like he may have a girl.
I'm just saying we don't know.
We don't know.
I think I know that Leon don't get niggas.
Okay.
Well, don't want the niggas that he may get.
Let's just change the thing.
That was the greatest shit.
Umbre's girlfriend is gorgeous.
Yeah.
A beautiful relationship.
That's good.
Shout out to Ombray.
Another dope project, man.
Love Ambr.
Steve Lacey.
came out as well.
Oh, yeah.
It was a great
music Friday last week.
Like, can't say enough about it.
Steve is gay, right?
I don't know.
And I know some people find that offensive,
but I'm not sure,
and I think that may have been a thing.
I don't know.
Is he fluid?
Well, stop talking.
I don't know.
Please stop talking.
Why y'all get mad?
I'm asking.
I'm searching for the answers.
I'm asking questions.
He's strict.
Steve.
A.I said he's strictly straight.
He identifies his sexuality as fluid.
He's not.
He's not strictly straight.
He's fluid.
He's fluid like you said, Mom.
Oh, okay.
See, I be saying shit and y'all be thinking I'm trying to be funny and just like...
I defended you.
I said I wasn't sure.
He's fluid.
Yeah, he's fluid.
Yeah.
Fluid and queer.
All right.
So we got more...
Outside of Sago, it was a very LGBTQ friendly R&B Friday.
Yo.
That as someone that is strictly straight, right?
Loved.
Yes.
What Friday.
I supported last Friday.
What a fucking Friday.
What it was on the calendar.
I don't know what type of holiday it was, but the representation was heavy and I supported.
Y'all saw it, speaking of Duran, did you see what a homie on Vlad that was allegedly fucking
Stefan Dix?
That was the craziest clip I've seen in class and time.
I didn't see that.
I don't really click on like.
He said there's, he heard Duran said there's a difference between heterosexual and straight.
And he's like, I don't know what that is.
So I just want to make y'all know that I am completely straight.
And then he went on to describe Stefan Diggs taking him out shopping like he was one of the girls.
He was like, in my opinion, we weren't in a relationship.
I don't know if we were.
But I'm straight.
I don't know if we were in a relationship.
If you're straight, you know you not in a relationship with a man.
If you're not straight, you know you in a relationship.
Like, you know if you're in a relationship or not.
Like, what are we talking about?
So he would, and then he went on and say, this is a quote.
You don't know if you're in a relationship?
It's before you, a girl has been in a relationship with you and you ain't
been a relationship with her before.
And you ain't know.
You ain't know that I was your, she was out here calling you her man.
Okay.
You're missing what I said.
I said, you know when you're in a relationship.
You know when you're not in a relationship.
In your mind, you might want to be in a relationship, but you know that ain't your man.
See, that's delusion.
That'd be the delusion, and I can't fight the delusion for you.
That's your battle to fight, right?
We both know we ain't in a relationship.
We kick it.
We hang out.
We do those type of things.
But you know if you see me on a random Tuesday at lunch with a young lady, you know you can't come up to the table acting crazy.
you know you can't do that.
Of course.
But because you're straight and she's straight,
there is a possibility that that could even exist, right?
Right.
But if a man has that same delusion,
it's still no way we're in a relationship
because there's not even a chance we're fucking.
Right.
Yeah.
And then this guy said,
didn't this guy reach out to both of us
to try to come on the show to clear this up?
Yeah, he did.
He went on like a mass DM streak
to every podcaster to come on the show.
He said, and I quote,
in my bitch-ass mind
I didn't realize
that he was only buying
bags for the girls
and me. The camera guy
they were with didn't get a bag, his brother didn't get a bag,
he said, I was
getting gifts like I was one of the girlies.
I got news for you.
I was waiting for it.
If Stefan Diggs is buying
the girls and you a bag,
I got news for you.
I mean, he's trying to
Yeah.
Ma.
Just saying.
Can this be backed up?
Excuse me?
I mean, say, can this be backed up?
Can we, like, is this proven or is he on a smear campaign?
No, well, he's in some litigation with, because he got, he was assaulted by his brother.
He just submitted like over a thousand, I think, emails with text messages to the authorities and shit like that.
So, I mean, he's, listen, man, he, he, he, he don't seem like he going away.
And I've seen that he had a little back and forth.
fall for Cardi too.
I think
Cardi has said
I mean that usually
happens with exes
and baby mothers
that's right
yeah
yeah
right on par
so yeah
I just
to me
and we just
talking shit
but to me
in all seriousness
when you was
heterosexual men
don't go through
shit like
you don't think
he had
the weebey
meme moment
where he was like
I was one of the
girls
yeah like that don't
that's not a real thing
you don't
you don't go through that
calling him
a life
Lizard funny as fuck.
That's actually mad funny.
Who called them that?
Are they saying Cardi called him that?
But I don't know if that's like confirmed, but they said Cardi called him a light skin
lizard.
That's actually mad funny.
I mean, listen, man, it is.
Love who you love, man.
But you can't be beating niggas up because they don't want to give you no butt,
though.
That's crazy.
Or send your brother to go do it.
Yeah, like, you can't be doing that.
That's a gay RICO.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a Grico.
Richard Griego.
You put him in the Richard Grico
You niggas is in the Griko
Put him in the dick Grico
You know, you niggins is living sick lives out here
Man
Oh my God
That's some funny shit right there, man
Niggas is in a Griko baby
Unsuspect they didn't even know
Yo man
This is craziness
Yo, that is wild as fuck.
Rory, did you see that Victoria and Monet has a new album coming out?
DeBarris, what if we were dating and you found out of my past that a man took me shopping and bought me bags?
And I still got the bag.
I take it on dates with us.
Shabang!
Oh, shit.
Anyways, Victoria Monet.
Another lesbian.
She's bisexual.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Bisexual.
She puts a toe in the pool.
Yeah, yeah.
She put her album cover out, classic already.
No skips.
Frequency of Love.
She on there talking bad?
A-O-Y.
Look at the cover.
I mean...
October 2nd?
Yeah.
Damn.
But she did drop us.
She dropped a single.
Which is great.
Yeah.
But I mean, I'm glad she gave us this image.
Reach out.
Kate Trinada produced.
K. Tranada and D. Mile, if I'm not mistaken.
Reach out.
Reach out. Yeah.
It sounds really good.
I remember the internet was, yeah, the internet was like fake turning out of her saying she didn't have a sound.
I think that's such bullshit.
I think Victoria has a very strong sound.
Yeah, she has a very strong sound, which we can contribute a lot to D.Mile, but yeah.
And what's wrong with also not having like just a signature sound?
She has a signature.
I think she does, but like there's also nothing wrong if you don't have one.
Well, they were saying, like, we don't know what to do with her.
We don't know where to put her.
They don't know how to market her.
You know the internet is fucking stupid.
Jaguar II was incredible.
Whatever they did, do the same market.
People on the internet saying, we don't know how to market.
Y'all are not marketers.
Like, fucking look what you mean.
Niggas on the internet are like, we don't know how to market it.
Y'all are not marketers.
So you shouldn't know how to market Victoria Monet.
Exactly.
But I'm excited.
Shout out to punch.
I'm not being a dick at, I promise.
I saw somebody tweet.
yo I love Ab Sol but we should like put him in the studio with Farrell and lock in
and punch replied damn you should be in the business I'm sure Absol wants to work at
Farrell.
Yo that's funny and lock in that's one hell of a collect who even what even made your brain
yeah no no rap has ever thought about locking in with Farrell like I don't even
niggas don't even think about that but yes today new music Friday
shout out to last week, but we do have
Tyler, full project.
She just put out like a EP, right?
A pretty quick turnaround.
Definitely a few months, but
I fuck with Tyler, but the way y'all speak about Tyler
is how I feel about Thames.
When we had that argument of like the next Rihanna shit.
Her EP was, sorry, just to...
Go ahead.
Her EP was last year, this time last year.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
I don't know why I thought it was at the top of like this year.
No.
That's fine, my name.
I'm...
It threw everything off of you.
It's COVID all over again for you.
Don't worry about that.
That's true.
Nick, time and all.
All track of time.
Time is a construct.
He might be able to clap on the two and four now.
Maybe.
We'll have to test that.
That was kind of the trash part of that.
Like, I thought I was going to come out with powers.
But yeah.
Didn't work?
No, just brain fog.
Yeah, sorry.
Come on, buddy.
That's it.
But yeah, how y'all speak about Tyler is all the things that should be to
Thames, but I'm still here for it.
I like Tyler a lot.
Is that Willow Smith?
I'm here for that.
I'm here for that.
I did not know Cyprus still had a project coming out.
Baby Drew.
All right.
Last week was more for me, but there's some shit here.
It's a lot.
I mean, it's a lot of music dropping, for sure.
I know Demaris is really excited for that Boston, Ritchie.
You said it off mic.
Why would I be excited for that?
Out of the entire list off mic, you said.
I said, oh, I didn't know he was putting a project out.
Oh, LeCaley's putting out a single.
It's out already.
Chad Hugo.
It's out?
Out and the video.
It's great.
Fire.
It's going to work, too.
Like, it's a really, really good record.
Yeah, she texted me.
told me she was putting out some new shit so i gotta check
that out yeah video's dope too
the the feral chad hugo beef
it's about to start man
do I say that
we've saw the stuff behind the scenes with certain lawsuits
and little things here and there but chad's always quiet
chad's talking his shit now
yeah
okay I don't think chad wants to be quiet anymore
I'm not saying a real beef but I think this is the start
of chad coming outside
all right and I think
that's gonna start the conversation
which I don't deem to be true.
I think they're both incredible producers
that helped each other out in every way.
But that's going to start the online shit.
Like, yo, I told you all for real,
didn't do anything and it was always Chad.
I think that's going to start happening.
Oh, you know that for sure.
But it's a really good writer.
But yeah, that's new music Fridays.
There's a whole list.
Ryan, I'll put it in the description, I guess.
All right.
Do we have voicemails?
None of y'all were even reading anything.
I'm not reading all that shit.
I'm not even listening to all that shit.
Who are we kidding?
You know what?
I appreciate a real nigga.
I'm not listening to
it's a lot of those artists
I don't care if they drop or something.
I was saying that's why I read the ones
I cared about.
Yeah, I'm not going to read all that shit
just to read it.
Good, they're putting out of music dope.
Out of that shit I'm not listening to though.
Why is it bold that Boston Richie's putting something up?
What do you mean?
It's bold.
That's what DeMair said.
I'm asking.
Oh, I don't know.
Why does you say that?
No reason.
Huh?
No reason.
So why did you say that?
I just felt like saying it.
All right.
Well.
And she's lying.
I'm going to get down to the bottom of that.
Let's talk about it on a Patreon.
We talk about it on a Patreon.
Can we?
Sure.
Get into it a little bit.
All right, fuck, we go on a Patreon.
We'll talk to you out a minute.
Be safe.
Be blessed on that nigga.
He's a ginger.
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