New Rory & MAL - Episode 526 | Reliving Reasonable Doubt with Memphis Bleek

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

On this special episode, presented by Boost Mobile, we celebrate the 30th Anniversary of Reasonable Doubt with the legendary Memphis Bleek. Bleek drops by to share some wild stories about running around with Jay-Z and the Roc-a-Fella crew, the process of recording with Hov, and much more. He also presses Mal over picking sides, and speaks on his recent back and forth with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda. The guys discuss the significance of Jay’s Yankee Stadium shows, what the album means to the culture, and some of the stories behind your favorite songs. We also take a couple calls from our Patreon members, asking Bleek’s opinions on producers, Hov songs, and advice for someone with baby mama drama. Memphis Bleek’s podcast, ROC Solid, is available everywhere you listen/watch podcasts! Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes. Special episode. This is the official 30-year reasonable doubt episode sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, Text and Data. Rory today we are joined by Special special special guest This is family right I'm saying

It's his family right here We've been waiting for this episode for a minute He's been stirring a little bit of trouble On the internet Not me So I think we caught him at the right time We caught him at the right time But all jokes aside

This is family Somebody who was very pivotal In the you know The ascension of the Rockefeller family The Rockefeller brand Today we are joined by Brooklyn's very own legendary Memphis Bleakers in the building.

Appreciate it. My God, what's up, man? Same grind different time. Yeah, we've been trying to connect for a minute. Yeah, man, but we had to. I saw you pick sides. It got derailed. Yeah, when he picked the side.

I was like, I chose their side. Next available spot. I'm there. You know, it was funny because I spoke to bleak and bleak. It was like, yo, what happened? I thought it was wrong. I was like, yo, what you mean, man? He said, nah, I'm coming up.

Yeah, like I had to Because I understand you, they call you OVO more, but they said You said you didn't go to the show I forgot why you said you didn't I didn't go because I didn't, I felt like That's, to me, from what I see, that's Jay's last

New York moment. You think so? I think so. Because what do you do after that? Me. Blizzle. The Blizzle tour. Coming to age 30. Yeah. Wait. 534 days after 534.

Yo. Yo, I bring him back out. I'm talking, all right. That's fire. I'm talking about Jay's like his show. Oh, yeah. I think that that's stem.

That's like. But you didn't want to say that. Yeah. People said you was full of shit for that. Do you take his story? No. I believe what the people said. I'm with the people.

They said, OVO said no. So you believe that. I believe that. It bleaked up. I believe that. Yo, I do. So, all right. So it was.

How do you think Drake worded it? So it was. It came from, Drake. It came from probably top five. They know you're top four. It came from top five straight to top four. All right.

So you believe I couldn't go because OVO said I couldn't go. And then I heard another one saying that, I was going to get beat up by Rockefeller. True. Who? Well, that one I believe. I don't know.

I think they thought Biggs was going to beat me up. Hap was going to beat me up. You was going to beat me up. Oh, big brother. What are we fighting for? This is why I'm glad I'm here. Yeah. Because I want to clear that up.

Why we got beef with Drake because Kendrick did the Super Bowl? I want to be, I want to know. We got beef with Drake because Kendrick did the Super Bowl? I think that I think you said something that you felt like Drake should do or shouldn't do during the battle. And I think, I think Drake may have responded to that. To me? Yeah, I think you said something on a podcast. Like I don't think.

I'm never shit on Dresey. No, I'm not saying you should it on him. I think you said something that you thought he should have did during the battle. I can't really remember what it was. did it. He came back and made hits. That's what I said. Don't focus on the drive. Focus on records. I think it was something you said when you were sitting down with Jim. Yeah. I said got to make hits. You got to come back with the hit. And I think Drake had a response to that. Yeah. And I said, I fell off in 96. So he came. I mean, that year. He said, rappers from 05 talking. I said,

he ain't talking about me. I fell off in 05. So it got to be somebody. It's not, it's not, it's not beef, though. It's no beef with, like, it's like, where is it? Because it's It's on the internet. It's on the internet because Drake said a few things on Iceman, and then Jay went on Root's picnic and just said, check the right charts champ. But that's rap shit. I agree. This is what I've been saying. That's rap shit.

This is what I've been saying. Nigga, I don't took shots at Bing's Hove. Look at you, me and me, huh? I'm talking about them niggas. Yeah. A lot of people don't know that. A lot of people didn't know it. Oh, shit.

No, but no. You're trying to be the best. And anybody coming in that spot, you go and throw them shots. So it's respected. I don't look at them. some niggas like, yo, we see them. It's up. Yeah.

No, no, no. So why would the thing is up with you? That's internet shit. Yeah. That's why I said, that's why when people were like, oh, you didn't go because Drake said that. And I'm looking at this. I'm like, what?

I'm like, there was mad people in the building that literally had beef of Rockefeller at one point. No, it's, yeah, listen, we never had beef with nobody, though. Well, it was. Because remember, we don't start trouble. No, no, no, no. But you don't got to start trouble to have beef. Well, y'all have had beef. There's been beef with Rockefeller.

And it's a lot of guys that now. We're going to defend ourselves. No, no, as... I look at that as beef, though. Beef is when it's really up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking my rapper beef. What's about 2026?

I'm not talking about real, like, families are in danger. That's like Twitter beef. Exactly, but that's where a lot of this shit stems from. It's social media, which is why Jay being able to sell out Yankee Stadium and older people come out with such a beautiful thing because if you let social media tell it, he can't do it. He's washed. He's old. He doesn't have any influence.

We all washed on social. Exactly. So that's why that moment was the epitome of the internet is not a real place. It's a very small corner of people that get together in their opinions and try to make it seem like it's a thing. I'm glad you said that. The internet not a real place because they tell me, yo, Drake, Hove, don't come on your part. Nobody never say, oh, Drake, they come up, yo, drizy. No, no, they say that was the whole reason for me to defend.

But the thing is, bleak, you know what the interview? That's what they claim was my stance on the whole battle. because of that. This is my thing, right? Even if you did get that in the view, like I feel like with the Jay shit, where you go next? Now I got to go for Tyler Perry, Oprah. Taylor Swift. Because you can't go from Jay and Drake. No disrespect.

I even throw me in there. If you got this episode could come after the Drake episode. No. It ain't going to do the same number. Yeah, but the numbers ain't going to reflect. Right, right, right. That's the difference. So I don't want to throw another rap in there before they diss me, too.

Yeah, yeah. I'm saying like, shit smoky out here right now. Very smoky. And also, like, maybe I'm a bad friend. Just because my friend started a podcast doesn't mean that I now owe an episode. You, it's insane. If that's the case, if anyone in Ho's life

start a podcast, now he got to go on their show. And they don't want that conversation. I don't want that conversation. I want people to know. Nah. Yeah, it's a lot of shit you want to run from. Yeah. I run this shit to the world, right?

If Hove's sit there, he's going to tell him I don't. It's going to be put it to perspective. So it's like, no, chill, I run this shit, fam, stay over there. Let me run this shit. Now, a lot of the, a lot of the, you know, Jay, Drake, quote, unquote, tension, it's not real. And I'm glad that I have you here today to kind of echo those sentiments. It's not a real thing. I tell people all the time, Jay is not beefing with anybody.

You cannot beef with Jay-Z. There's no, it doesn't make sense. I don't think he's paying nobody attention. No, I'm not. If he hears everything, he sees everything. I gotta give y'all some pushback. What you mean nobody could beef with Jay-Z? I've heard him reply to,

we're talking about rap beef, right? Yeah, you could beat for your own. I've heard him reply his whole career to everybody. Today. He just went on roots and mind you, people have been talking about him for years, but he has every right to reply, but don't. And you can't say that.

That's what I want. You can't say that Hove don't have anyone's attention. I think Hove has a bird. He makes attention to everything just because he's a good business man. It understands the market. I agree with you. I'm saying beef meeting like that Roots picnic thing was him responding to years. Years of, not rapper shit, years of people trying to defimate his character.

Sure. You know, the whole Tony Busby shit. He's selling out the target. His whole political thing with the NFL and the Super Bowl taking that job. Like, it wasn't like he was responding to a bar, a rapper said about him. That's what I'm speaking about. Well, he was replying to a Drake bar from Iceman. Well, Drake would be the only one.

This is my thing, though. Everybody took shots for years and years and years and years and got one shot back and went and cried. Of course. Like, it's insane to me. We knew at roots, we were all sitting there before I allegedly got kicked out. We was like, all right, Jay just gave, not, according to the internet, I got kicked out. You out the roots?

They kicked out. He kicked out. Apparently, I got kicked out. Apparently, Jay came. to the Doucet riser and say, your friends with Drake, get out. This is what Tasha Kay put out to the world league. Yo, chill, I can't.

They can't. That's real? That's real. Yes, she did like a whole stream on and everything. I don't think Jay knows what the ducee riser look like. Like, being real. Like, that ain't even disrespect. But, yeah. I don't think he know where it's at or what it looked like

because it changes every show. So I guarantee you he didn't know what the root of the roosey rise a little. He doesn't even know that I was there. Yeah, no. No, man. That's crazy. But it's, I like it because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, I like these people, man, like, it's entertainment to toss your case and all of them. Yeah. Because to me, they just replaced the inquirer. Mm-hmm. Remember you walking, store and the baby born, this person gave birth to a alien. Yeah. They that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's, you away from the real shit sometimes. Yeah, 100%. But that used to just be when I was waiting in line to pay for my growth. from my groceries. That was five minutes of my time. Now you can't open your phone.

Without seeing it. Yeah, but then you need the inquiry. We get the member. You get the Daily News. You get the UK blogs, all that shit. But then you need that Tasha Kay, that left field shit that you know just don't make no sense. It's like, yeah, it's the inquiry section.

Yeah, it's the bullshit. Mall wasn't even in Philadelphia. I wasn't even there. I was home watching Game 7 of the Spurs. You got kicked out of a place. I got kicked out. I wasn't even there. I wasn't even there.

I need that kick out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, you got a. You got to laugh at that shit. Well, how was performing Roots Picnic? Because that had been a little minute since you were on stage. Yo, with Jay, it's been a minute, man. Jay, and he know I'm the nicest.

You know what I'm saying? He know I get up. That's why he knew on me on stage. He running from that? Yeah. Like, we're going to try to burn me, set up the verses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, no, fuck that.

Get out of what verse? Get out of here, shorthy. Yeah. So, but now, the verse, I mean, fucking Roots Picnic was dope. just to be able to get to see the state property set again, to see them all back together working. Like, when I went to the rehearsal and saw the set list, I was at first, I'm like,

blizzle only got one joint up there. Who, guru? Yeah. And then when I read the rest of the set list, it's seen state property, I'm like, it makes sense. Yeah. My name, Philadelphia.

Do their thing, this Philly, let them shine. Like I told them, how many more J shows we're going to get like this where we can stand on this stage and do this. So to see that was really, really, dope. Peatty crack everybody out there. That was fire. That was fire. What was

like rehearsals like? Seeing all the guys together. It was like one big movie, man. Cartoon again. Everybody back together laughing, pop and shit. Neef trying tell me why he ain't come to my part. Yeah, yeah. He was looking for me. He was waiting on Jeter. He was ducking me. Neef ain't come to the part. I forgot what he told him. He said

I hollered at somebody. That's why I come. So you ain't come to holl at me because I holl. Me and Neff still need another conversation. But that's my bros. You know? So it was like, it was almost like being adult on the hard knock life tour again. That's what it felt like. One night from Hard Knock Life, but instead of us being kids, we were adults.

Able to really reflect and look back on shit that we miss, opportunities we fucked up, and how we could fix it. Yeah. Did you and Beans talk about the album that you guys still owe us? Yo. I haven't forgotten. Yo, listen. Right, I'm going to be honest. Bean's going to be mad at me.

He's going to call me, but that's my dog. Right at the Roots picnic, I told Jay, I say, yo, we need to do five song. you know, just on some rock shen. He's like, yeah, make it happen. If niggas ain't got five verses, I don't want his shit. So I'm like, well, no, I got five. Right. So, you know, bings, what up?

Free, what up? Everybody like, yeah, bink sent us a five-pack. Matter of fact, Bing sent us 10 beats. Okay. You know what I mean? Verses we laid? Zero. So.

Wait, but what happened? Niggas ain't had verses? I don't know what happened. Didn't this happen before one time when y'all was together and Jay said, why don't y'all go to the studio and none of y'all went to to the studio? No, that's what Chris said. He said we all went to the Rihanna party.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean, I get it. Yo, you got to understand. Part of it, you know, these beats are going to have to wait, man. Big still going to be big. But the Roots picnic, I don't know why we didn't get together and do it. Everybody was in the studio. We went to Freeway.

We got a studio in Philly. We went. Freeway's playing music. I played music. Bing's played music. It's just timing. Like, I believe everybody focused on their own path. And when time is right, we would do it.

Last thing you want to do is force music. It's not going to be real. It's not going to be right. It's not going to sound good. I mean, but it's cool that Jay's even open to like, yo, play me five records. Yeah, he's ready to hear it. Instead of like, nah, fuck no. That's why when we came to New York, it was like, oh, bleak, you're not going to let this slip.

Let's get one. Like you said, how many more chances of this you're going to get that light again on the Rockefeller era? It's like, I got to take advantage. I just think that was the culmination of, like, again, I just, where does Jay go from that? president we want the White House dog mall's a Republican he won't vote for

he definitely voting then because they fucking shit up right there they got shit twisted out here gas high we had war real war not that ex war it's real war you don't think Jay would be a Republican a black Republican he has a record

that's because he might have saved taxes that year made a record he wanted to save taxes every year he wanted to save taxes every year every year. I prefer Pat Pooza's version of Black Democrats. That was my favorite freestyle.

You know what I'm saying? Yo, Pap is super nice. No, I love Pap. I love Papp is our guy. I'm definitely a friend of the show. He don't get the credit he deserved, man. Pat is super nice. That is great.

One of them dudes, how your shit together. You're getting on the record with him. No, for sure. So night one reasonable doubt, Yankee Stadium in rehearsals. Did you know that? Out of the age, part two.

Your favorite one? Yeah, because I'm on stage. Okay. I prefer that night. Coming to age was the end. For me, it's significant because it's what we prayed for, bro. It's like, you know how when you're living in the moment, you don't really get the reflect on the journey.

Yeah. That night was like, now they say you see your life flash before your eyes, but that only happens during the tragedy. This happened to me during the celebration. Right. So I stood there and was like, oh shit. Remembering the baskets, we was wrapping up the sin of the DJs. Remembering the nights going to Maria Davis, talent shows and shit.

Mad Wednesdays. Mad Wednesdays. I'm remembering all of those days the stretching by beatto trying to get up there rest of peace Big Al the night to piggybacking with Big Al dang original flavor

all that shit just played in my mind and was like yo it's crazy like 30 years ago this is what we prayed for and now it's here it felt surreal at the time when reasonable that was being recorded

at the age you were at that time did you think that it would in 30 years later Yankee Stadium sold out would be a thing like in that moment because when you listen to Reasonable Now now in 96

everything that Jay was rapping about the music everything was so ahead of his time and a lot of people didn't understand it unless you was really living that unless she was around that so from 96 to 2026 and you being at Yankee Stadium and seeing all these people in the stands

like what is that what is that feeling like when you think back to young Bleak and Marcy and where Bleak is at today? day on stage in Yankee Stadium. Just like what you said with the fans, man. I didn't even understand the album. Like, you know what I mean?

Certain shit on that album I'm doing now and be like, hold on. This thing was talking about this shit 30 years ago. What the fuck? Like, and I just figured it out. So, like, Jay always been a teacher, leader of the culture to me because it felt like when everybody was doing this, he went on that. The whole game was on goal. He brought out platinum.

When chicks thought it was silver and shit, everybody was almost wet. He was drinking Chris Stile. Then it's like he always been ahead of the game. And back then, I was watching from, now I want to say a fan because they wasn't famous and we grew up together. So it's hard to be a fan of your bro.

It's like inspiring. Yeah. That's somebody, man, when I get older, I hope I'm living like that. I hope I got my team like that. And you know, for him to rip a piece of paper out of a notebook and tell me as fast as you remember, but this rhyme is as fast as your life change.

30 years later, we're on Yankee Stadium stage looking at my life completely changed. Like, it's like, wow, 30 years ago, nigga, I was eating sardines out the can. Today, nigga, we're getting sushi made right there on the table. You heard you? Fly to chef in. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's a difference.

How much different would your life have been if Shaheen from Wu-Tang got the coming of age verse instead of you? I'd probably be in sardines. Going back 30 years, do you remember, I mean, obviously Jay had features and like a few records out, but do you remember when he was like, bleak, I'm working on an album? Like when he actually took this shit serious, because he's always talked about he really didn't take rap serious in the beginning. You got to remember, I'm a little bro.

I was a lot of people think I was part of the movement, the action when they was in the street. Nah, I was the, if they had a third stringer, I was the 10th. The 10th phone call. As little bro, what are we're doing? We get you when we need you. They go in the crib. We highlight you. Go on the black, do what you do.

It was that type of relationship. So I used to have to steal records. Like, because I wasn't in the studio all the time. Like, so we go to the crib and hear play records. And then they're leaving. I'm at the crib and like, oh, let me get this CD. Go to the hood play this for the homies. I remember I got a call.

They got a call in Jay and B. Hyde knocked on my door. It was like, yo, we heard you down here burning niggas copies of the record. be evil. So I'm like, nah, ain't me. Who told you that? And they bought one of my right-hand man standing there like they was the fans, like bleak

tell them, you did it. They caught us. They got us. And I'm looking at him like, fam. You go, yo, they just cut a nigga here, man. DJ right-handed. They, you know. Bring your man to the door. He's like,

you tell him. Yeah. Like, what you mean? Like, you know, I gave you to copy on some low shit

and you ratit you. You played for the whole your copy probably said bleak the evils on it too. I thought I got I thought I was out

the whip for that one. I was like, I fucked up. I can't take those songs on the studio. You know, like this,

yo, what's telling me talk to you? And you know, that's the crib. You're living with moms. You think you you invite niggas in,

niggas like, nah, come in the hallway. That coming in the hallway, you knew. You don't know if you're going back in the house. That's just serious. You knew son what's up. That's not regular talk. We're not going to disrespect your mom's house. Yeah, come outside real quick.

We ain't going to disrespect your mom. He can't get there. Home behind behind the elevator wall. Yeah, yeah. Waiting for me to say now. Yo, come here, family. Yeah, yo, it was us. What?

That's fucking hilarious. So this was before he asked you to get on coming to age? No, I was on coming to age. ready, but it was other records being made that they were playing. I'm like, what the fuck is this? What's that? So when D.E. Evo's, it was like, nigger, this, that shit. I got to play this for

the Hohens. Ain't no way niggas can't hear this. Like, you know how it felt to be doing coming to age one, coming to age two? You go to the hood. You tell niggas you, I just did records with Hov. It's like, me hear it. Like, yeah, I can't. Yeah, I can't. Until it come out.

Until it come out. He's like, man, this thing is cat. He ain't in the studio with Jay. Yeah. Because I stole D.E. they never gave me copies of no other record until I started making my own records. I used to tell, niggas, don't burn the CD for bleak. Yeah, he's going to take that shit right back to the block. He was out there bootlegging early.

I did that when we was in baseline when Jay did PSA. And I remember I got like I took the train, the D-Train back up town and I got to the block. I said, my nigga, this nigga, Jay got a wreck. And niggas is like, where's that? I don't got it. But when niggas heard PSA for the first time, they was like, oh, yeah. It was right.

It's over. Yeah. That's how it was, man. Like, that shit was like real secretive back there. You know how many engineers got their hag chopped? For sure. You had braids. You had a blowout.

Niggins was hitting you with the clippers. Yes. No, you did what? What? What? Yeah. Bleak, do you feel like, because you got on legendary rap versus legendary rap.

records with guys like sauce money, Z, J, like, do you feel like you get the credit you deserve for just being able to hold your own with those type of emcees and rappers? Because not everybody can step in a circle with a sauce money, JZ, young beans, JazzO, and really hold your own.

I definitely don't. But I love when they don't give me the credit because the ones who feel like they can compete, don't want to compete. I tell all these guys, I just hit Swiss yesterday. Swiss was hit me telling me, yo, we see what's going on, we watch it. Like, you ready for the versus shit?

And I'm like, I'm ready for it for whoever. There's no target. Whoever, you can pick the opponent. Like, that's how confident I am in what I did over the years. And it's like people don't remember. They don't remember. They don't give me the credit.

And like you said, rhyming behind Jay and Beans is a task in itself. You know how I felt to go in the studio or you meet him and her and hear, hove like nigga I knocked the horse off of your polo sweater. Right. Like, what the fuck am I supposed to say after this? Like, huh?

Yeah. Like, it was like, I had to rhyme after that. Then you're bringing up Source money. Like, come on, man. Yeah. Right. Source was just like the ultimate, like, it was times the way I felt like he made Jay better.

Yeah. Like, Source. Because sauce was, was, I remember when I was in the projects one day with sauce and thinking, man, you're not that nice, nigga. I want your spot. Remember, source was the next up in line on the rock before beings, everybody before me. I don't know what happened between him and Jay or how I skipped the line, but source was supposed to be the next up.

I'll let him tell his story because I don't even know it to tell it. But I remember I tried to take that spot. Like, nigga, you can't fuck with me. I'm a new young nigga. What up? And the projects had all my niggas with me ready to rhyme. He's like, aye, let me hear something. I spit, that niggas spit like six lines.

And I just remember the one line. Niggas thought they was Chinese the way they duck sauce. Listen, I'm like, cool. Tell Hove I said what I call me when y' got niggas need me. You feel me? It was like, the fuck? Who I thought I was playing with it? That's like thinking you ready for the bully.

They can hit you. You're like, wait, I see stars. My bad, my bad. I'm cool. Like, whir-old up. Gee, I ride with you for free. Yeah. Tell Hove give me another piece of paper.

Let me practice. What did they take you seriously, though, at that point? I felt like when Beans came around. When Beans came around, the way everything shifted and was on him, that it was like, oh, niggas, even my home team is sleeping on me. Like, they don't think I got it. So when me and Lenny, just went and made coming to age the album, and we turned it in, and he came out like that, and I skipped the line.

Like, oh, first, we were dropping this before everything. It was like, then I earned the respect. Or if coming the age, the Meph Bleak is, what you think of that. Regular cat, and it's like, oh, my God. I'm mad I never shot a video for that. I was about to say, why you ain't never shoot a video for regular cat? Because I ain't control the budgets. That record was, that was the one.

And all I cared about back then more, I ain't going to cap. I was the major thotty body. Yeah, yeah. What I cared about? The video girls, like, why y'all bought them for me. Yeah, yeah. That was a day to remember. Come on, are you kidding me?

You was on set? I had pulled up late. They was wrapping up, but it was girls everywhere. Like, Bleak was like, at one point, it was like all the cute girls in the hood was like, yo, bleak, blick. And I was like, oh, they really like bleak out of him. Because Jay was like, you're not going to even see Jay. Like, you, I don't have a chance to even have a conversation with Jay. Bleak, you would see that nigger right in the middle of the hood.

Right, I'm walking the strip. That's how I used to be holding them behind. the velvet rope on the opposite side what we're doing. I'll be on stage you stand at the right on sunrode. That was me. And Hovie like, why you're telling them the hotel?

Degger, you better stay at a different one. But that's at the red roof end. We're going in, cut. Yeah, I'm mad you never shot a video for a regular cat. Like that record was... It's a couple records. I wish that infatuated. That was my ringtone.

The one with Rihanna. I should have shot that with Riri first got on. You know what I mean? Yeah. Rest of peace, colleague, we burnt infatuated down, bro. When that came out, we burnt that record. Me, colleague, Vaughn, we used to...

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Open your free high-heart radio app. Search Delivering Happen is with Nick Detouro. And listen now. But what happened? What happened with, I know that's his story to tell, but that was one of the figures that I think everybody felt. Because it was dope to see Jay give jazz his flowers on stage in the stadium and say, you know, this is the guy that's responsible for who I am as an emce. And, you know, you said the same about sauce. Like, these are the guys who he kind of honed his skills with.

But like what? not getting too personal into it like what happened with SOS like why wasn't he there it may be two person but like it's him and Jay in the space where they even like cordial because for him not to be at the Yankee Stadium show I'm not going to lie to me

that was one of the guys that I just thought was going to be there yeah heard me bro when I when we did rehearsal and I seen the trailers and we all and I see Jazzo I'm like oh okay I know Sos here and then when I go talk to jazz and I'm like yo what's up with Sos and he like you know certain shit niggas just

don't want to let go, bro. Like, you know, like, certain people harbor feel is different than other. Oh, yeah, 100%. And certain people want that direct. Sorry. Yeah. If they don't receive it, it's like, fuck the world. Maybe that can be him.

I don't know. Yeah. Source is a very private person. Like, he never really been out talking on the mics and, yo, fuck this person. So you, we really never going to know. I tried to get him to come on the part. But somehow him and Norrie got some smoke. So he's like, nah, fuck you bleak.

Him and Norrie in them. Were? Yeah. I thought I saw it was like a quiet, passive person. But like you said, you could be quiet and still have drunk. Yeah, yeah. And you just tell me. Yeah.

See? Nori might have said something that he heard and he didn't like. He felt like Norrie did it publicly and the apology was behind the things. He felt like the apology should be public. It should. It should. I'm one of those guys. I think the apology definitely.

If the disrespect is public, the apology should be public. Sometimes go make the apology. public. Pull up the drink chairs. Yeah. Pull up the rock solid the way I could tell Norrie pull up when you hear. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes everybody's not going to come to you. You got to go take it. Yeah. That's with apologies and opportunities. What was on? What was that first combo with jazz like at rehearsals? My first convo with jazz really would not have them on the part. Okay.

That's my first convoy. And it was like, man, I feel so bad that we even went there with Jazz, though. Like, jazz was, he's the OG OG. Like, yeah. I literally went to jazz for tips or how to write hooks. Tips or, yo, when should you put the punchline in the verse? When, like, at what bar should I think of the illest line? And he just, like, used to give me all different tips and pointers on this on how to make a song and how to rap 16 bars and all of this. My first studio sessions before coming to age, before Lenny Yass,

before all of that was jazz, picking me up in the projects, getting in the car than going to the studio with him and Bihai and it'll be us in the studio trying to figure it out and like

it was like man like seeing him now older and it's like damn bro like why we ever get into it with you we like we mars

from the bricks we never supposed to ever raise the pen on jazz so if it's anything in my career that I regret that is like

we're never supposed to disrespect that's real for sure yeah but I mean that's why I was happy that Jay did that on stage.

Rarely does Jay give like that, that long of a speech, some... But jazz deserves it. Some humility. Not to say Jay in humble, but that was... Without him, none of this would be possible, bro. He saw it before we all did. Really, shout out the Nike. He really saw it.

And we're going to steal them back because y'all queens'nickers take a lot of shit, man. I just want to let y'all know Nike in them is not from Queens. You know what I mean? They are from Mawsy. Shirt Kings is from Mawsey Project They got money in Queens It's a difference It's a difference

We're taking them back Yeah The hypnotic record with Jew, Jay and Beans And it didn't get cleared Is there any way? No, that got cleared It was on the album Hypnoticator

The original version No, the original didn't get cleared Is there anywhere It was there, dog Come on offense, stop playing when you bleak Is there anyway in 2026 We can get that clear? I don't think

So that's like the record with freeway, man. Never got cleared. The fuck was that so, night shift. Oh, okay, yes. I never got cleared. Was it sample shit? Because, I mean, I see what Jay's doing now, re-releasing everything now that he could do it under his own imprint.

Yeah. Was it sample shit? Okay. They don't be certain estates. That original version, hypnotic is crazy. You know certain estates. You know that shit go off like your name, how much money they think they're going to be. Yeah, absolutely.

They think you're going to waste their record. They get like, you know out of here. Rap or Tom. that, you're not making it, read it. Because what you think of that was like that. They didn't clear the sample. That was supposed to be the first single before Meph Bleak it. They didn't clear the sample to Jay put a verse on.

It was like, you motherfuckers. Yeah. Were you around when Rockefeller was calling mall spacecakes? That was, yeah. That was. Were you there when the incident happens? Like, we've gotten his point of view. Nah, the incident happened that, I think it was Christmas or thing.

It was Thanksgiving. You had said. Yeah, no. And everybody like that. Like a week after I went to baseline and everybody I heard the story about it. And I think Beans is the one that came up with the name. Space. Which he said in a rat.

And everybody started calling me that. That was the worst night of my fucking life. And those was the fly. When I was a shorty, the space cakes was hitting as a shorthy. I'm a little bullshit. She says, mad nasty, man. It was a marshmallow over the middle. You're going to fucking die.

Eat one of those. What was early mall swag like? What was your early memories of mall? He always been fly. You know, Harlem niggas always came through with that extra fly, like, they got to take your bitch. Gotta put money back. That was not what I was.

That wasn't my energy. Like, they always gave around like that. I had to be fly because John niggas was rappers. But still, we ain't. I don't rap. So I got to stand out somehow. I got to be funny. I got to be fly.

I got to smell good. I got to have a haircut. I got to do all the other shit. It was a different aura of Harlem, though, back then. Yeah. Like Harlem felt like going out of town. Yeah. To me, it's being in Brooklyn.

Brooklyn, I cannot explain. For those in Chicago, they would know. Brooklyn is just like Chicago. It's no standing outside. Like, you're on your block, you chilling. All right, cool, shots might ring out. So y'all better keep a gun in the vicinity. That's how it is on Chicago.

Like, I remember being out there, niggas like, yo, the west side, niggas outside. On the south side, niggas ain't outside. You can't stand around. You can't stand that block and blow your head off. So it's like, oh, it's like where I'm from. I like Chicago.

But then you go to Harlem and Dachman. Everybody outside. Black parties, police even enjoying the festivities. Like, what the fuck going on over here? So it felt like going to another place. Yeah. So everybody up there fly. Everybody talks Spanish.

Everybody got Spanish homies. It's like, what the fuck are we missing in BK that? You know what I'm saying? So they had a different level of fly that we felt like, nah, you think it's ain't going to out flies. What do you think you're going to take all our business? bitches because you got the new ups. You got the new Pellet.

So how did you feel the first time Jay brought like Biggs, Dame, just the whole Harlem crew to Marcy? I didn't meet them in Marcy. I met them on First Avenue. I met Dame Dash on First Avenue when he had the crib. I don't know the name of that project, that condominium. Oh, $11.99.

Yes. He was living there on First Avenue. It's so crazy because Diamonds and the Ruff was living there too. Jimli. Yep. Chinka Rebel was in the same joint. That's when I first found out about the salami and cheese from the corner store, they make the shit hot with the grill, changed my life.

It's like, the fuck they don't have here. They cook this shit in the store, too? Whoa. The fuck, we got to bring this back to Brooklyn. The concept of a deli. Yo, worried up. Yeah.

So. Yeah, hot sandwiches wasn't a thing like that. Not back then. Now, you go get a little sand which it was cool. Yeah, you get a cold cut. But they're like, yo, you want me to fry it on the grill? Yeah.

Hell yeah. You're going to do what back in there, Bobby? Well, that's a hot. Hodgis invented the chop cheese. That deli across from 1199. That's the legendary deli. Oh, yeah? That's the one that invented chop cheese.

Yeah, that's how I did. Yeah, that's what I first got my first salami and cheese high off the grill. I never ate a cold salami again. It was over for that. Like, that's what I'm on mommy. That's you got to be cooked. But yeah, so meeting them up there, like, Dane was chilling.

You know, at that time, Dane was managing the original flavor. Yeah. You know, they had, um. John Hooker. Tone hooker, ski. Shout out chubby chubb. I mean, chubby chub, diesel chub now.

Yeah. He's not chubby no more. So, you know, like, that was that vibe. And it was like, Dane was always on that. Yo, man, we're going to take this shit over. Niggas ain't listen to us. We're going to kick that door.

Fuck that. It was always that energy and we got to get it. Biggs was laid back. Like, I'm getting money. Yeah. I think it's got the plan together yet. Yeah.

But I owe Biggs. Biggs got smoked with me, and he don't even know it. About what? What happened? See, I'm married now, so I can't pay him back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I got to do something.

Okay, okay. You know, it's like a prank. I had to do something to get him back. Fuck. Yeah, yeah. You know I as a shorthy, you going on the road with the OGs. They give you the game. Yo, you let the chick know where you stay at.

You know, bring it to the hotel. You don't go nowhere with the girl. None of that. I'm the young nigger, 15 on the road. First time on the road with these niggas. Now, mind you, they all 24, 24. This at the time they was wearing the big bracelet. The big bracelet with the,

they had the pinky ring that looked like, nigger Liberacee, they took it from him. They was jeweled up. I had nothing. I was naked, man. Plain, J. Me, nothing. Girl looking at me like, hey, we're y'all stare.

So it's like, wait, you want no way. I'm staying. Got a name, everything ready. She's like, yeah, I'm coming back with you. Yeah. You coming back to an hotel with me. So I was like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, I got one. The fishing line working. It's, oh, we got something. I go tell Biggs because, you know. Your young naive ring. Yeah. He's the OG next to me. I don't got no cab money.

I don't know the drivers for the car to take me to the hotel. I'm here on consent with y'all. So I have to leave when y'all leave. So I tell Biggs, yo, what time we leave in the spot? Yeah. He's like, why? He's like, nah, just what time we leave? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yo, we're about to get out of here like 30-40, man. After the Jay finished, we know we're going to pop a few bottles and we out. Like, nah, but I got this joint ready to go. That is said, which one? Yeah. I point out, her over there, he went and left. Yo, listen. So all I did was warm it up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Warm it up, bled. You entertained her until time to leave. Yes. Over there being the major, a major lemon cake. Yeah, yeah. Using every bit of game, you guys,

every joke you have. So for the last 30 years, you know, I've been like, I gotta get this thing up back. He'd think I've let that one ride. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That girl probably married with kids,

moved on, Bleak still talking to turn in the night. Bleak married kids, married. Beek still like, nah, I need my gift. Yeah. That was like the ultimate little bro. Like, get out of it.

Yeah, man. We got this. That happened to me. That happened to me when we went to a All-Star weekend in D.C., 2001 with Jay. See, I was late there. They couldn't do that.

Yeah, we used at the Ritz College. We stayed at the Ritz calling. And I had a nice one with me. We know, I'm going to the, I'm in the hallway. Jay, like, yo, come here. I go over there. And they're big, like, no, come over here. They're in the hallway.

Like, but the rooms are opposite ends. I turn around. All I see is shorty running down the hole with Jay, man. I said, no, niggas ain't do this to me. It's four in the morning. It's four in the morning. Security got the police got the whole block of the hotel. Lockdown.

You can't get it. Nothing. Yo, you learn early. When you met a joint, don't bring them around. Just if J& them over there, go this way. Because I've seen girls lose day fucking cool. Remember when Foxy had the video with the big hat? I would never forget this.

We had Texas somewhere. Shorty bad as a motherfucker sitting on the couch, chilling. Hove came. That bitch got up and started Crip walking. Hold a hat. Hold a hat. Like, yo, I would never forget this. And it just made me lose all respect.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought she was cool. Yeah, like, what the fuck is that? And you can't say nothing because then you hate it. Like, where? Like, jaywalk and y'all get real different in here. Why the Crip Walk? I was fucking like, we in Texas.

Shorty, like, how you even know that dance here? Yo, I'm telling you, we used to see all kinds of shit, bro. Oh, my God. That was her maiden call to hoax. Yo. What a time. Yo, back there. Classic time.

The best time, man. It was the best. How do you feel about, because I get asked the question, so I'm throwing it on you now. How do you feel about everything going on with Dame right now, man? I don't feel. I don't pay it. I don't indulge. I don't pay a door attention because I got too much respect for that man to laugh and look at them on whatever.

I do, too. But when he said fuck big, I ain't going to lie. I can't. Like, that shit. That's shit. He don't mean that, though, bro. So why say it? Because you want a response.

I think at this point it's like us men. When the chick. thing. You've been there before. Girl leaves you. She's like, I ain't talking to no more. She ain't picking up that phone. You start taking a bitch.

I'm going to kill you. I'm fucking you. Yeah. Just to get a reaction. Just that response. Sometimes I think it's that, bro. Yeah, but you know, like we, it's just, to me, Dame is doing and saying things that at one point he always thought was, that's the,

like, why would you do that? Why would you say that? That's corny. That's, men shouldn't do that. It's like he's the definition of. everything he preached now. Right. And it's,

but it hurts to see it. It's, it's almost like, like, damn, like I want somebody to reach out and talk to him to be like,

yo, like, bro, like, listen, I don't know what's going on, but this is not who you are, or at least who we know you to be. I believe that's been done.

And I just don't believe Dane receives it the right way. Like a lot of people care. A lot of people reach out. No, I had conversations with big face, Norrie, You know what I mean?

Dan got kids. They old. I'm pretty sure they look at their father and go have a conversation with them. You know what I'm saying? It's like I don't think dang listening to no one, man. Dang been the driver of the ship since he started. I think he's going to relinquish those keys to anyone.

Yeah. I mean? I've watched some of the Haven stuff on YouTube and he seems to be in a way different space than back in the day on some of that stuff. And it seems like he's not reaching out per se, but seems like he's open to a conversation whereas the Dane thing is kind of lost at that point.

Gil is like, it's weird to me because I see he bringing my name up and certain shit now. Yeah. Like, yo, fam, I was a kid when y'all niggas was mobbing. I wasn't, right. I ain't have nothing to do with that. I don't know anything about it. But you know why you get that. But no, he wants me to speak about it.

And it's like, how can you speak on something you don't know? All I would do was give misinformation or information I heard through the grapevine. And that would be wrong on my part to do. so I just don't speak on it. Now, do I know him? Yeah, I know him. But I knew you as a kid. I don't know you as an adult.

Last time I probably seen to have a conversation with Gil, I probably was 12, 13 years old. I'm 48 right now. I don't know him as a man. Like, his niece is my God's sister. His sister, rest of peace, it's my godmother, rest of peace.

And that's my family. We talk to this day. You know what I'm saying? But with him, I never had a conversation I never needed to. Like, you J-friend. I didn't have nothing to do with that hustle. So I mind my business as they would tell me if it was back then.

You bleak mind your business. So that's what I do. Yeah. No, I make sense. That makes sense. I did want to go through a few records or verses per se. Thank you. And you just talk about what the sessions were like.

Starting with 1-900 hustler, which I've said when you aren't here, this isn't because you. I think you have the best verse on 1-9-9-19-1. I murdered them. What was it? that session like? No, that session was super dope because it was like we were in there. Like, if you could almost bring a comic book to life, that's like, you know, a comic book you read and you see the action, but then you see the little bubble of what they think

it. That's what it was. It was like all of our thoughts. And then you tell Bink, that's Bink on the phone calls. Yeah. You want to, yo, man, I got somebody online. Yo, been two chickens and all that. And, you know, Bings and Jay was the ones thinking about the chorus.

You should do this, little hustle. It was J. I dare. It was J. I dare we should do the one-nine hundred hustler like a hotline for hustlers. And then Beings was coming to the idea, yo, but homie on the phone talking reckless and you know somebody riffing with him. And then they hear it being played down was like, you just got to write a verse. Bleak online too. What you're going to tell the shorty? It was like the easiest rhyme I probably ever wrote in my life.

And people could say it's like one of the best. That's how I feel about the song you just. brought up, hypnotic. Like, people say that's one of my hardest verses, too. And it's like, that was the easiest round my road. Yeah. Coming to age two, specifically because the first one, obviously Jay was heavily involved with the first one.

Part two, too. Okay. Yo, Jay is a genius, man. And this is what I say, like, that's why I never put my hat in the race for the top dog, because just off those two records, I'm disqualified. On rap rules, I'm disqualified. Yeah, but then, but you have. 20 years a body of work of writing.

But it's still like, if we're going to do it to others, I'd do it to myself. I'm not going to hold on higher. I respect that. I got to disqualify myself. So that's why I don't even argue I am about. While we're quickly here, can you please put to rest what Moll and the rest of the OVO crew

have put in the world that Calico has been writing J-Z rhymes. That's the funniest. I'll put that in the world. I'm not. My nigga, Cali, man. That's my dog. You know, that was getting low record. We need those publishing checks

And he wrote him He wrote all the black album according to the OVA internet We need those pub checks then That's crazy Did you watch the like that whole little doc They tried to do where Calico wrote? Yeah, the Fleege of Black they put the clips And everything else in it

But you the culprit they said that hard drive That's like every hard drive in every studio The one you was holding That was Calico's black album That then you passed off to Jay I'm that nigg I like the internet detectives. They detect this shit.

They zoomed in on you holding a hard drive and was like, we got them. And that was the clear hard drive, right? I remember why. I think it was the lacy orange joints. Yeah, I remember that picture. That's me holding the hard drive mad that the shit ain't worked.

And we're trying to go to the place because they had a spot in the city that used to recover all the shit off your hard drive. So you had to have the one and the other there together. So we was actually going to recover the hard drive because she had crash. Because I was teaching all of them back then. This is when Pro Tools came out

when we was using it on a laptop. We were set up anywhere and record. So that's why you would always see every picture you see Cali and it's a mic, a laptop, a hard drive, because him, proof, G to K, them boys know how to record. They can operate and run a studio right now if they wanted to.

Because, like, we taught all our artists how to be the bosses of their own career, too, that you didn't wait for an engineer. You didn't wait for studio time. You go do what you want to do when you want to do it. And for them to dig up all these years later to say Cali wrote for Jay is like, whoa. I know he's saying somewhere like, nigger, I wish you fucking kidding me? Like, what?

He's got to wrote one hook. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and Cali, a good dude, man. I know he's not one of those guys that's celebrating this. Like, yeah. He's not feeding into that. No, man.

He's such a good dude. He ain't with that. He's super nice. Just never, you know, a lot of guys at that time I felt like Rockefeller were moving so fast. Yeah. That a lot of people missed opportunities or didn't get the opportunity they deserve. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I mean, what was baseline like in that sense where you had all estate prop, which state prop grew crazy? It was like seven of them. And then you got all of get low. Like, I'm sure that must have been. How do you even get pause to the microphone with the 70 people? Every day. You know, we had, first of all, every day, everybody ain't getting along. Every day, niggas fight.

Like you said, studio time, you're in there bullshit with beach, you bullshit. With bars, you waste of time. Get the fuck out the booth. So, excuse me, OG one and them bought boxing gloves for niggas that won't bullshit. You want to get it off your chest. Remember, we had the big booth where it was the glass where you could go in the booth and watch the niggas box. You go in and get your shit off. Yeah.

Niggas is getting fucked up. Yeah, no, no cameras for that. Niggas was in there getting fucked up. A lot of niggas was on the floor like this. Looking through the glass, like, stop the fight. Stop the fight. We don't have to know who lost, who got busy the most. Who was the better fighter?

You know who out of a shocking, who got hands, man? Sparks. Okay. Sparks fucked a few niggas up in that booth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The niggins thing, you go, Zhu, Zoo, let I want to fight Zoo. Yeah, yeah. You got in there Zoo Whip niggins, like, hit the whip, that Zoolander.

Yo, bleak, the first time I remember in baseline seeing Kanye. And I remember everybody in there was just talking about the way he was dressed. He had on, like, a motorcycle leather. He had on some Durango boots. Kanye was different. And everybody was like, yo, who is? And then once we went in the B room and started listening to the beat, I remember Jay walked in was like, yo, who is that?

And it was like, you, that's homie in the front in the pool room and going to front and he in there. And it's like, it didn't match. Like, wait, he's making all of this heat. And I tell people all the time, like, yo, when Yee first came around, it was like he was such an outsider because he looked different, he talked different,

he dressed different. But when he started playing that music, I remember seeing everything in baseline change. Like, kind of, you. Man, I can honestly say, man, where Kanye got to his career and where he at, that's the definition and the results of a man who don't take no. 1,000%. It's like, y'all didn't say no?

Yeah. Fuck y'all. Watch this. That's that. Sure desire and will to win and never quit and never listen to what nobody got to say. Because back then, people was not even checking for his raps. They just with the beats. He was making beats and shit.

Everything he made and played was phenomenal. Like, oh, shit, that's why I think. I probably got one Kanye beat out of them years in baseline because everybody was on him. He didn't have had a chance to breathe. So then when he got to the point and he started playing music, I was one of the only niggas in there listening like, yo, my G, you're going to be one of them greats, nigger.

You're going to take this shit over. So the difference in Kanye I see is that weird in this business only mean two things. You either going to fucking win and win a lot. Because all the weirdos that we consider different, that's how can we say they weird?

And they were, they probably, we weird. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. They might look at it as if fucking weirdos. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, but they win.

Because in their mind, they already know. They got the plan, what they want to do. Where us, we so cool, bro, we think we got it. And it's like we don't plan. We just go off the cool factor.

Where a guy like that, that shit is written down in the attic and he know exactly every step he wanted to take and he did it. So that's how, like Jay is the coolest weird to me because I think of a weird as a motherfucker too. Jay, for him to be like that up there, you gotta have a little bit.

That successful has to be a little bit. You gotta, like, my nigga, I watch this thing write a whole song in the limo to the airport. Yeah, yeah. From that, all right, perspective. Barclay Center, JFK.

It's about a 15 minute right. They wrote a whole song canceled the flight and went back to the studio. For the rest of us it's like an hour. Yeah, yeah.

All right. You're Jay. 15 minutes. Yeah. But to drive, that's like we're in the limo going to JFK. He'd be playing.

We get the JFK. Yo, Colleen, cancel the flag. Yo, book studio time. I gotta lay this song. And then we turn around, go to studio, lay the song,

and baby face come through the hook. Yeah, yeah. That's not fucking normal. This was with volume two. Yeah, that's not normal. I thought we were doing that way to Houston. She's liby. But Jay's process of writing,

obviously being privileged enough to experience and see it, you don't know he's writing until he leaves out the room and goes in the booth. You're like, oh, because the whole time you think he's staring at you. And you're trying to figure out like, what I did? You think he asked you something you didn't hear him. You're like, huh? And he like, he wave you off and he turned the other way. and look and then he go in the corner and

then just open the door going to booth and that's when they hit you like oh he was in here writing like I tried to ask when I fell off yeah yo I did I gotta keep it real man like

people listen to coming the age and the understanding and like your that nigga bleak was on shit when we went to 534 and and made it was like I think I'm hold now I don't have to write the shit Five through four a lot. Let me think this shit.

I like, I like five to four. No, they don't bang like the first. Yeah, yeah. And then now, Parment 3D,

I backed up. Yeah. I ain't hove. That's why they like. Yeah. But that was the problem in that era, like, when Jay would say,

I don't write nothing down, be like, all right, cool. Then other rappers started saying and be like, you should probably, you should probably write something down. Why y'all ain't tell me that?

Right, right. They should have, y'all can't keep it real, your blink. You know, we could tell you ain't write that. Yeah. That shit sound like you freestyle something. Yeah.

Why won't? It's not, it's just, it's just crazy for somebody to have that ability to do that and just be that successful. Like, you know, over the years, people hear like, what you mean he don't write? Bro, he does not put pen to paper. Nope. Like, it just like he'll, and then won't. It's not like he going there and it's like, fuck up. He'll spit it all the way through.

One take home. Come back out. That's clear that. I think I'm going to do ad libs. Right. Which is crazy. That's just one take. Yeah.

Like, think everybody else doubled a verse, ad lib, and they can do one take, that's it. Yeah. And that shit sounds like that. Come on, man. That's versus God. Yeah, that's not normal. What's the fastest y'all have seen him right? What record that we know, the fastest?

That I can remember, it was something on the black album, I think. And I don't, and I might be over speaking because I don't, he may have had some shit in his head already. But we was in the studio for no longer than 15 minutes. minutes and he went in the booth and laid some shit and I was just like, there's no way this nigga just wrote that in his head. You remember what record it was? Because it was on Faded Black. There was songs that didn't make it.

You could tell like, all right, this is. I think it was a lore. I think it was something on the law. My favorite joints, man. Yeah. My fastest, of course, is sunshine. Because like I said, that record happened on the way. It's supposed to go to Houston.

And then, hey, Poppy. Okay. Because Bill was supposed to meet us in the studio and do the third verse. So when I came to the studio, his verse and the hook was already done. He like, bleak, do a verse. Amil going to do the third verse. I'm like, all, cool, fuck it. Let me do my verse.

Lay my verse. He said, Amel not coming. I got the third verse. When? The fuck? I just said it right in my shit. Like, when you got your verse? They emailed it?

Like, you're like, yo, she's not coming now. I got it. Yeah, yeah. Word. It's like, okay. When you got it? You tell you. It was like, yo, that nigger Jay is different, man.

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Or wherever you get your podcast Is there anybody Is there any artists Back then Or producers that you wanted to work with That you never got the opportunity to work with Artists and producers I say like top three producers

I wanted to work with I never got to work with Of course you ain't going to say Dr. Dre Yeah Every artist wanted to be from Dr. Dre. It's like a dream. You know what I mean? Then, like, number two,

I would say, got to be Manny Fresh. Okay. I wanted a Manny Fresh beat for sure. Actually, a bleak Manny Fresh song does make sense.

Yeah. Like, where, Manny Fresh was that nigger, too. And then, um, he gonna hate me because I'll be fucking that niggas names. What's my man

who did Rubber Band Man for Tia? Oh, so David Banner. Okay. So I'm saying, a lot of people don't know David Banner production. Yeah. No, David Banner.

Seriously. Yeah. So he's another one of those producers that I was like, ooh, I'd have loved to work with him too. You know what I mean? And he's a good dude. That's my guy. Like, I have any conversations with him. Very great guy.

Yeah. You brought Just around, right? Was Just Blaze? No, Guru did. Guru brought Kyle and Just Blaze. Yes, I didn't bring him. I co-signed him coming. Shout out L'Oreal.

She was managing the engineers at the time. And one of my engineers was, he called down. And she was like, I got a new engineer. from DC just got down here I just started managing him. I was like, he smoked weed. She's like, yep, send him. Here he come guru. Who fucking knew Yoda was that tall?

That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, who the fuck knew Yoda was that tall? That's crazy, man. Guru. What was like early Just like at that time? The same as now. A fucking big gamer.

You got to go drag Jess out the front playing Call of Duty, Zelda, and all type of other shit. You know kids who played Zelda was always going to be super smart. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you're playing what? Exactly. Why? I'm on trying to play Jones.

And now you got to go to Japan, handcuffed Just, bring his ass back like a federal agent. Get over here. You're getting extradited back to America. Remember, just had all the two-way alerts. Yo, used to make beats. He made his own beats for the two-way alerts. Insane. Yeah.

Crazy. I mean, since obviously you grew up in the same building as the entire family, the first time you heard the last verse of you must love me about Jay in a situation with his brother. What was your response to Jay like, Dan, you're really about to talk about this? It was like, yo, you know, you hear Pock say the realest shit I ever wrote. I can honestly say that might be the really should Jay ever wrote. It's one of my favorite J versus. Because it's 100% all-away facts.

Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? the cousins and all that might be hyperthetical where he changed a man to a female, but the story is still 100% facts. Yeah.

That song, my favorite Jay song and my favorite street record and hip-hop period of Streets is watching. They don't get no better than that. That's top tier. Literally I'm knee-deep in the game and I'm going to tell you the fears

of the hustlers mentality. If any nigga who hustle, I don't go fuck you sell fireworks or you sell spy mats. If you hustle it, you can relate to that song. It's one of the only songs I got four verses. Yeah. That shit.

Three verses these days is crazy. It's not normal anymore. How much of the movie were you around? For the streets is watching. Yeah. I was around. I mean, I know you're not. Of course, not the strip scene.

Him and source money. They leave me out for those videos. Like, I remember, watching the movie like wait wait when y'all when y'all shot this when did you have 50 butt asses it did like I couldn't get the call for that yeah yeah yeah what was uh what was like the production of that movie like just behind the scenes every day

shooting that says I mean that's to me that's one of the it's the best rap movie in my opinion ever original hype Williams me Abdul Malik Abdul that was our real hype Williams like he was the guy who had a lot of vision before vision came the thing of the day. Like, you know, I feel like back then, he was like what, the Robert Townsins of the music

industry with videos. Like, he shot everything. Visionary for sure. You know what I mean? Like all those, all the beginning career videos of Jay, dead president, all the in my lifetime remix, my lifetime one, when they went to St. Times, me on the speedbook. All that's Malik Abdul, even the streets is watching. And he shot state property.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like he's that guy. And I don't think he'd get enough credit like a lot of the guys in the industry. So back then seeing them do it. And it was no label. There's no label funding this shit. This shit was funded by the corner of New York City.

Like straight up. Like the fun ran out. Somebody got to go stand on that block and get the fun back up. That's a fact. Then we're going to shoot some more tomorrow. Right. So seeing that, and back then I didn't understand it, but being where I am now and looking back,

it was like not only was he ahead of his time, but Dame and Jay and all of them was too, man, because to put a movie to know that the fans didn't understand your music and put it in movie format, we still videos, but it flows like a movie and feels like a movie. Ahead of his time. I don't think it could be done again. Nobody album even.

that solid to do a whole movie on your shit. You'll have to leave some songs out. Some have tried, but it didn't land this. Yeah. It just didn't. They put the wax on. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, was there any thoughts of Jay like not acting? Because I don't know Jay like that, but he's cool and laid back. Like, Dame, I'm sure, was like, I'll act. I got you. But Jay doing that, did anyone have to talk him into like, yo, you're going to lead a whole movie? Of course, it's music videos. But you acting through this whole shit. No, I don't think so.

I knew he knew what he needed to do. You know what I'm saying? When you have a goal and you want to accomplish something, you don't need coaching. You just need direction. Yeah. You just need a target. True.

Yeah. Right? I hear that. We want to get in some voice mouths. On our show, we have listeners call in and tell stories, ask questions. And it's specific for you. We let's let our fans know on Patreon that you would come by. So we got some bleak questions.

Let's see. Hope we didn't get no personal. Hey, bleak, you remember me from Virginia? Hey, I'm the girl that Biggs took from you. I just want to say, I validate you as a human being. You don't need to carry this anymore. You've got mail. What up, guys?

This is Darius. I am calling you Charlotte. And my question slash topic regarding reasonable doubt, it's around the two versions of their presidents, which for me, my personal favorite and the one that, you know, when I hear the beat, my mind, the. faults to part one. But I know that part two is probably the most popular one, the one on the album, and probably the one that people relate to more.

But just curious on you guys' thoughts on which version you think is the better one. And if we're bleak specifically, do you think it was the right call going on with part two for the album cut and which one that you prefer, what's your favorite? I'm always just curious to see what people think about the two versions, which one they prefer, and how they feel about it. I'm curious, both y'all, part one or two with that president. Let me know your thoughts on that piece. I always tell people, if I had to play a record for somebody that never heard rap before, and this was their first time hand rap, I would play dead presidents too. You be personally?

Over part one? Yeah. I think I'll play part one. The one that made the album is fire. That's fire. But part one is like the classic. It is, but their president is too, bro.

I never knew. Why did he do parts? Not that I'm complaining, but why? It just changed the verse. Yeah, the verse is what changed. Yeah, the verse is changed. The third verse. I think, I don't know,

could be some type of rights and ownership in the record because then one came out on payday, the other was released on Def Jam, Rockefeller. So it'd be some type of splits and ownership. Yeah, okay. I got to get out of my publishing deal.

Let me throw another verse on it. You never know. Play the game a little bit. bit. But Dead President's 2 to me, like obviously part 1 is they're both classic, so there's no wrong answer, but I just think that

his energy on part 2 was just like it felt like, oh, and another thing. That's the vibe I get from Dead President's 2. It's like, he has some other shit to put to that. How many people you think can release a record and then re-release

it with new rhymes and they hit harder originally? Yeah, that's not. That's not something to happen. Yeah. It's no wrong answer, but for me too. That video was a part one or two that had like AZ big. They was all playing your brother. They was all playing Monopoly with Real Money.

That wasn't Depress, two or one that video? That was one, I think. I think that was one, I think that was one. Yeah, I have the cheat code. I would take from part one, the second verse and part two, the first verse. And that's the perfect debt president's. That's my cheat code answer. Yeah, that's the thing.

Put them together. That's the version I need. Yeah. we get another one what's going on part more Rory baby D name is manor in the Bronx my question for Bleak is

he had the chance to do an album produced by Kanye or Jess Blaze which one will he pick and why peace that's a good question

it's a great question so fucking great question oh man so we're not talk about the present day people what's your opinion on the Jewish community at the moment.

Yo, chill. They gave me Ash, Kosh, be gosh. I'm good. We good. Yeah. Semetics aside. Just blaze of Kanye West

of who you would want to do a project with at this point. Just Blaze for the last 30 years it's going to be the same fucking problem. I got to go find this

nigga. Yeah. He ain't easy to be found. And they even got a car that's drawn like a comic book. You know, it's like at night you can't see if you see the outline of the car. He got to paint it the way at night it turns invisible almost. Yeah. Just as different.

Yeah. So with that being said, today's Kanye West, I had to find them, get him some help. Yeah. Counseling. Yeah. So I wouldn't be today's Kanye. So let's go back in the day. Yeah, yeah. Before you know the opinion of anyone, Just has discovered Nintendo.

Let's just both are accessible. I think I'm going to have to say Kanye. Okay. Why? Because I never got beats from him the way I wanted to. Just as my bro, I love him. I made masterpieces of Just. We have some classics. Like I said, I have over 10, 15 records with Jess already. Yeah.

I have won with Kanye. So I would say Kanye just off that fact to relive that moment and getting to work with him. Yeah. I've heard you passed on the Uchchch's. Is there any Jusse Kanya beats that she passed on? They said I passed on, oh boy. It wasn't Uchiwali, it was whoa. It was whoa, okay.

Whoa. Shout out my daughter. I forgot who passed on Uchiwali then. You passed on Wo? But the beat, not the, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, they wasn't saying it. It wasn't the same. That's what I'm trying to tell people. Black Raw made it say Waw.

But even that beat, though, like, I'm like, I don't see. No, that's a beat like that. Pick what you think of that. Over that. It's on the same tape. Okay. Well, that worked out. Okay.

For everybody. Yeah. But I can see that too. Even the woe beat, of course, it's crazy. But if you take out knowing what Black Rob did on that, that could just be like some radio freestyle beat at the end of the day. Like, I didn't see the vision. He heard to be like, yo, everything like, whoa. Yeah, just hearing raw beats, what you think of that or whoa, what you think of that would definitely grab your ear.

And you'll be like, okay, yeah, especially if you're thinking, I need a single. Mm-hmm. Like, what you think of that just, it moved a little bit. Yeah. Man, he got some classics, man. I still discover records. Like Buck Wilder did that? Yeah.

No, Buck's crazy. Word. Yeah. Ryan, we got the last one. That's non-bleek related, but I do want your opinion. This gentleman's going through some things. Yo, what's up? To the mayor is Rory and Maul.

My name is Ox. I'm from Port St. Lucie, Florida. I got a story to tell. I'm going to make it quick. So I tried this before. It didn't work. I got baby mama. I've been with this as 06.

We broke up in 2019. She ended up cheating on me. She didn't even with a chip. That shit does happen just so you niggas know. Damn. Game was real. Shit all nuts. You can't compete.

They ended up, I found out some years later because we stopped talking. You know, not even for the kid. We just stopped talking. She was talking as well. But we stopped talking, but she married homegirl. Homegirl ended up leaving her because she found out she had MS. she couldn't deal with that shit. That wasn't like...

Yo. Just recently, he started giving me some rhythm. Yo. I'm kind of apprehensive on how to pursue that. If I should pursue that. Part of me wants to pursue that. And part of me's like,

yo, that shit is dead and gone, bro. Get out. You know, my daughter, she tries 15 this summer. Like... It's time to get out. It's over. Yeah.

I just want some advice, you know? Yo. So I'm, you know, from one of my favorite podcasts. Help me out. Help him out. I need to start a help out line

because that is that Jamaica. You guys said that's wicked in the bed, you know, that's wicked mine. Yo, I want to laugh. But he says she left me for a chick. He got married to her. Right there, let you know.

Yeah. He wasn't paying her no attention. No. Girls love attention. Girls go give each other that. attention. They're going to go get that lunch, that brunch. So, yeah, you ain't paying your bitch no attention? Somebody will.

Somebody will for sure. There you go that. But then the girl left her. That means she double back. No, she's feeling. Yeah, something wrong. Yeah. Then he says she's giving me rhythm. Yeah. What he was feeling before? The baseline? Like, the fuck.

Treble for sure. Yeah, he's that treble. Yeah. Now he's feeling the rhythms. He got the rhythms. Wow. And he says daughter's 15. He got to go. Get out. He answered his own question. He said it's over.

That's why I think sometimes when people call in, they just need to listen to their own voicemails to listen back to what you just said. Because this girl, she didn't know you with a girl. And cool, that ended up being her queen, whatever. She went to Staples. She wanted her scissors and she got them. She's happy. Yeah.

But then her queen, who she finally found that would pay attention, got MS. And I thought it was death to us part. We had to fucking through sickness and health. She gets MS and she's like, nah. I'm out of here. I need a regular job. It goes back to the only guy that she knows because they share a kid.

And she know. That is just terrible. But not only that, though. They knew, he said they knew each other since they was six? I think he said that since they were six, right? They grew up together since 2009 and, yeah. They say what they call that, Simpley. What's his name?

He ain't simply OJ. Yeah. And simply O.J would have gone another. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was like that.

You're saying, I got a job. He would have him down another way. Simply O.J. With a wig. Simply live a day. As we got to do. Oh, my God, though. Yo, Bleak, before we let you go,

before we let you go, is there any way we can bring a man to some peace to you and Yeo and murder? Tell me, guys come high lie, man. They want me to come on the war? What is it, the war report? The real report. The real report. The real report.

I put up to the real. report. They can pull up the rock solid. Yo, bro, I have no beef with nobody. I don't start no trouble. I thought you said it was cool. Like, you were murdered, was cool. Yeah, we got three videos. We got mad swords together. Me and the True life was out here looking for the ops together. Now I'm the app.

Yeah, yeah. How'd happen? Me and True just was riding in the car ready for all smoke. Yeah. Now I'm in the smoke. Like, God damn. Yeah. But a lot of that's emboldened his guy. Yeah, yo, down, though. And I think that he kind of felt like what you said about, you know, G-unit or anybody G-U-Nit affiliated, he felt the way about that.

He can't do that. He's G-U-Nit syndicate, man. That's like Wu syndicate. He's not an original member of G-U-Nit, the way he going to take on the scars and the wounds that they had from the beginning. Yeah. He said in the beginning to 50-face, he would never sign to him. Right, right.

So you can't now wear the scars, my nigga. Like, come on, dude. That's like a nigga get down with us right now. I'm not going, he going to just act like he had beef with dives and junk. like come on man that's not right but there is room for y'all to sit down and all the time because i don't have no pee for nobody i'm not in chilling yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah got records moving no more moving yeah yeah yeah i'm the last thing i'm looking for is to be right round new york opi yeah it's too hot yeah it's too right yeah it's too old yeah i don't even know how to get back

in op mode like what's the outfit for the app territory now The streets are gentrified now. He don't even know the same blocks. Exactly. Yeah. Hey, what the fuck? Yeah. They go run up on you with a fit, fit bit bracelet and kill you.

Jogging, get counting his steps and clip you. We're not ready for this shit, man. Yeah. You're not ready for the new wall, man. I'm telling us, man. All the way you're telling them. But I am happy to hear that jockey sit down. And so we got to make that happen.

Before it went this far, we reached out to murder. Okay. Because I wanted to get some clarification as to what Yeo meant. Maybe he could have sat down with me and we could have cleared it up right there. It didn't have to go this far. I think he can.

Yeah, yeah. Who knows, man, you know what I mean? We got to make, let's tell 50 come sit down. You want to know what's up with him and the big homie. Come talk to me. Yeah. Yeah, we definitely need that. It's opi out here.

Might change my name to Optimus Prize. Oppenheimer out here. Before we let you go to celebrate Reasonable Doubt 30 years, as of July 31st, 2026, top 5J albums. In order? In order from number one to five. Me? Yeah.

Black album, number one. American gangster. Okay. Ooh. I wasn't expecting you to say that. Number three, reasonable doubt. Number four. I'm going to put a lot.

curveball in there. I'm gonna go with the album with him and the rock group. The Lincoln Park shit? Lincoln Park. Okay. The live album. Because that got some gems. Like when they remix them, the beat. Yeah, it's cool remixes on it. It's hitting different.

The whites, we love that in the bar. Number five. That's a great, that's a great karaoke album. If you go down, if you go down in Jersey Shore, that does numbers. That's what I'm saying. It does numbers. Seaside. Park, who, who, bro? I'll be in Italy. Yeah, this outfit, like, you know, I'll be an LBI. And congrats. Oh, you performed for the first time in...

Yeah, no, congrats for. That's big. Yeah, that's fire, man. I appreciate. Congratulations. Thank you, bro. Ducey moving. Number five, man.

For my fifth album, man, I would say volume two. Because that's the one that took us overbook. You know what I mean? Hard knock life. That's the one that... That changed everything. But that's on that crossover planet. Yeah.

More. Reasonable. Hard knock. black album Blueprint Oh I forgot Yeah you gave Lincoln Park over

Blueprint Blake I'm never gonna forgive you No no it ain't over But that's just like a thing Yeah And then Probably American gangster Gotcha

Mine changes often But after Yankee Stadium It used to be Blueprint at 1 But Reasonable Doubbed Blueprint Black Album American Gangster 444 See and you

And let's get this You said it might be the end of the New York run. What about Black Album 30? Blackout 30. A Shea Stadium. I'm sorry. It's at Shea Stadium. That would be ridiculous.

That would be ridiculous. You know, Blackout 30. We got to have a new New York Blackout. He got to have the city shut down the power grid. Like it's 03. You said what's next. That's what we do. Shut down the power grid.

Blackout 30. Whole City. When's the so far gone anniversary? It might be the same year. Do you want Jay to put out a new album? No. I don't. I don't.

I don't either. I think he could give you one, one joint, two joint, yeah. Because he got, Jay is on some major bullshit. Because I'm a rapper, and I know what rappers do. You practice, you might see some shit like, oh, that gave me an idea. Yo, goo put this beat on. Lay some shit. Nobody heard it, but goo.

You don't know. Gu tell me, yo, Jay got some shit. Yeah. It's like, go, still a hard drive. The way they said Cali Hart, let's steal the Jayhawk. Look, we want the Cali hard drive. Let's get the Jay Hard drive. Yeah, you should have changed mad lives.

I got, I'll be Oprah with it. So for you, it's all for you, so for you. That's how much shit on there. Like, I told you, I'm Oprah. Yeah. I'm the Miss Brown. I'm here. Yeah, but I don't think I want another J, like a new J album. If he has something to say, I want to.

And all he's going to say, see, this is the thing. I think we live in the world that no matter what he say, people are going to have something to say. Oh, of course. So it's like, it's no right or wrong thing to say in this. If he wants to say. Anything you say is going to be whatever people demon has. Because ever since, like, think about it,

they crucify me with the activism stuff because I did violate it. Like, yo, I ain't with the activism. I don't know what I was thinking. Yeah. Well, me had me hot. I never want to say no shit like that. I don't got to make sure. I don't trip and slip or some shit like that ever again.

Yeah. But ever since I called the Black Hood, Farrakar, my son, shit been crickets. Yeah. Damn no, now the activist don't want no smoke with a real activist. Yeah. Wait, you and mice, I have- No, that's my dog. Okay, okay.

That's the hood and Farrakhan. No, I fuck on my son. Yeah. Yeah. They better put respect all niggas on the front line. All these niggas are on the front of the post. He's on the front line. Mm-hmm.

All the front of the post people was all in my comments going crazy. I bought the front of the line, nigga who outside with it? Shit, crickets now. It's quiet. They don't want no more smoke. That op, died. Them ops, I'm cool.

Activist community, I'm back. I'm about to get out there. That's why we have you here, Bleak. The exit strategy for Iran. Yo, you know, listen, the exit strategy for Iran is the reset button, like, on Nintendo. You know how you go too far in the gay,

like shit, are too fucked up. Like, reset, let's start over. Yeah. And he just reset this shit and start over. Just be like, yo, listen, we wildly. Yeah, start over.

Everybody erased, you got one on the books. We got one on the books. This is back to zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Start over. Yeah, it's even. Yeah, we start over the wrong foot. Yeah, absolutely.

You know, Bleak, we want to thank you for finally coming up, man, doing this episode, man. Salute to you. Appreciate you. Because we're talking about reasonable doubt 30 years, but obviously you've been near every step of the way.

still holding the flag, still repping the rock. And I just want to say we appreciate everything that you've given the culture, everything that you've provided over the years, all of the bars, all of the moments. And we hope to continue to see you building Doucet. I appreciate it.

Rock solid pocket. We got to come do rock solid. Yes, y'all got to pull up, man. Yeah, we do rock solid. I'm glad I did this. Now I know my T.O card is still good. No, yeah, you're good, man. Because I don't know about the C-DOT. I'm in the T-DOT. It's no bea.

Shout out Cardinal. Shout out Cardinal. Real. Toronto Legend. That nigga on the show with you, you better pull out all your fucking joints because he's going to make you this. Legend.

People don't let him perform first. That's all about it. You better touch the stage first. That's somebody else you want to talk to to his Cardinal. So we got to get Cardinal up here, man. That's easy. Yeah. Give him his flowers and shit.

He died, man. Yeah, absolutely. I've got that six shit. I haven't been to the six. I've been to T-D-D-D-D. You got to come to. me to six, man. Yeah, come on, man. Go make sure we good. Yeah, we good, man.

The niggas out there taking change and shit now. That's family in Toronto, man. I was the criminal across the board. They're like, no. America, you fucking buggy. Now these things got guns. They win shysters. Toronto always been like that, though. They had the most diverse girls.

What happened to the shyness? A lot of the girls came out of nowhere. Toronto was the one in the place in the world where you went every rabble. That's why anybody. basketball player that ever got traded to Toronto, they never complained. Yeah. You never heard a nigga like, yo, we don't want to go play a niggins. Like, we want to go.

Yeah. Bugging. Beautiful. It's I be out there. And my biggest issue with Drake is making that city so popular. Why'd you tell the rest of the world how amazing this place. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'd be out there. It's a 45 minute flight. Yeah. He shouldn't be mad. I'm trying to make Trump still good over there. You good, man. We all go to Toronto. Man. That's family. Everything good. Why don't we shoot his pod in Toronto? Let's do it. That's a easy flight. We got the equipment. Make sure top five there.

He got to make fun of it. He got to talk to top five. Certain niggas on internet, they do their thing. I'm watching. I gotta meet you. I got to. I fuck with your stand like it. I got to.

Yeah. Give him the Nazi chain. Yeah. This is what I'm saying. Like, come on. You got questions. Yeah. I got to sit with time.

What's the ops like now here? What a dang banging out here. I gotta know. Because back then it wasn't like it is today. So it changed. Yeah, it was more, it was, it was, it was more if you know, you know back then. Now with the internet, you know exactly. Toronto is like New York, bro.

I tell people all the time. Toronto is a lot like New York. This is why people better not sleep on track. That shit right there next to Buffalo. Yeah. If you know Buffalo, everything illegal go through Buffalo. Yeah, yeah. That's shit right there.

Right. those things called parking rides by the bus. Exactly. Buffalo is a parking ride to get. Absolutely. Yeah, look at the slingshot you a pack across the Agra. Before the drone.

Before the drone. Yeah. Hell yeah. 100%. You feel me? Now you can drone drop the 100%. Yeah.

And I'm not fucking with top five. He got it. He got it. How y'all going to put that? See? Top out there putting in that work. Yeah. 100%.

Let them know about top four up here from New York. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think of top four but it got work. This thing is crazy. That was 30 years of reasonable doubt. Shout out to Memphis,

Blink in the building. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Always love, family. You know what it is. That's bleak. Man, you know what it is, y'all. Yeah.

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