New Rory & MAL - Episode 529 | Get In The Ring

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

The gang discusses the summer jobs and the importance of barbershops before getting into the Jason Lee & A$AP Rocky Interview.  Cam’ron has a wild message out to Cardi B’s team regarding a verse swap for an interview.  The crew wonder who the next Pop mega stars will be.  Top Dog confirms Rory’s theory on why Kendrick has beef with The Game then we get into a voicemail questions what artists were in the wrong era All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-foreverSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I could feel Demaris getting the ick over there. You blowing your nose. I may ask me what my ick was one time. I was like, niggas, that's allergic to the earth. Yeah. You're not supposed to be here. It's like natural selection. my bad was that do we go too far no no no no feel great i'm glad you're feeling better yeah i feel

great how's your week week is good man how's yours you look good thank you feeling better uh yeah i went to uh my first follow-up my first neurology how well follow-up uh on tuesday um which is like the main one which i i wish i would have been able to get one earlier but that was the soon as one did the cardiologist shit was fine got the heart monitor out that wasn't it i was hoping to have some answers from the neurologist and like all the blood work i did i think i'm in the 30% of people my age that you'll just never figure out what caused your stroke oh wow yeah i thought i was gonna they thought it was something with my blood i still have to go to a hematologist i believe that's called uh-huh to do some extra blood work but she's like be honest with you you you may just fall in that 30% yeah so

so it's just minor changes to your lifestyle i guess yeah it's just i mean i've i've i've i've I've obviously joked about it on the show to make sure, like, this doesn't get too serious. But I will say that that did suck on Tuesday because I have had paranoia because the day that I had the stroke, I did, I felt completely fine. Like I was just walking down. Like, yeah, I felt fine. Right. So that's always in the back of my head. Like, oh, I could just fall out real quick.

Right. Even without a symptom. So I was hoping to know exactly what it was. But, you know, guess we'll never know. I'm sorry. So that means like all of your lifestyle changes have to run. remain lifestyle changes. Yeah, I mean, for the most part.

In three months, they said usually symptoms like start to go away and shit clears up because like I still have vertigo pretty regularly. Headaches like brain fatigue and shit. But, you know, hopefully I think September 30th or some shit like that is when I have another MRI just to see. And then I mean, if it's cleared up, dude, we're back to fucking Coke, DMT, Konyak. All of the things. All of the things.

All of the things. Speaking of back, we are back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, Text and Data. Yeah. But other than that, I feel great. Yeah, man, you look good, though. Yeah. I feel good. They seem to love our, uh, our, I've been a lot of calls about our, our trip to the cold show.

They seem to love your voiceover and your sunscreen. Did banana boat call you yet? No, not yet. No. I do that, I do that one, uh, of the strength. That's for the love. Did you tag them? What is that?

You didn't tag them? I should have, damn. You got to tag them. Here's my, I'm in the open market, though, because, listen, I, there's open market. It's hilarious. You're in the open market? Yeah, like, I'm a free agent. I don't want anyone to think, like, I'm just.

You're not married to banana, like, Ovino, if you're out there. Yeah, yeah, you're not married to banana boat. Like, yeah. And you shouldn't even put banana boat on your face like that. No, I still don't understand how, how and why you did that, but, you know. Yeah, I have a sunscreen for my face, but. Yeah, banana boat's good. Like if you're just running out, you know, real quick.

And hopefully you're going to the beach or the pool. Like, you're not inside. Like, I was going to go. Me and Demers were going to go to the USB arena so we found out it wasn't safe. Oh. It's not safe, right? Such. It was safe when I went to the barclays.

Everybody was loving and crowd. Everybody, you know, show love. It's always one, right? It's always one out of the barn. My thing with all that is I understand the, like, the faceless. Not even boss. Just people that have accounts where they won't show who they are, any information. You'll never run into them.

They'll never leave their house. Then there's people that you know, but will never leave their house. People that speak that way that there is a very high chance. I'm going to run into you. Yeah. And I'm not, I was never the aggressor. You were the one saying all that shit. So why aren't you doing what you said you were going to do when we were on the internet?

We'll never know. You've never heard me say a threat on the internet because I know I'm going to run into somebody. Right. And I'm going to have to back up those words. Right. So I'm just curious, not of the people that are weirdos in their basement, whatever. We know that exists and always will. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm talking about the people. We have 39 mutuals. We're mutually going to see each other. Some of which stay at my house when they come to New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of the things, man. All of the things. It's just like, I don't know.

We're in our 30s and 40s. What are you doing? I'm just trying to, you know what I mean? I'm just trying to be healthy, baby Dita. So baby D, what's up? Hi. How you been? I'm okay.

You're all right? You sure? You ovulating? You have to stop asking you that. Because I mean, when your energy is a little like, like melancholy. That's not what. Ovulating is when I come in here and I'm like, hey, peas, like, let's go get a drink.

Like, ovulating is like social, horny. You're PMS. Sweet peas. I'm not PMSing. Oh, okay. PMSN is the opposite of ovulating though, right? In a sense, yeah. Okay.

What does ovulating, like, feel like? It feels, it feels differently for different women. For me, before I got my ovary taken out, there was some cramping, your skin glows. Like, you have more energy. That's why I asked you. See? Your skin is going on. Oh, thank you.

I didn't wear as much makeup as I usually do today. See? Okay, but I wasn't that far. If I knew something different. I'm looking over there. I'm okay. Yeah. Your skin glows.

You get your more social things like that because it's the time for you to, it's the time when you're most likely to get pregnant. So the universe wants you and God and nature wants you to go out, me. And find a mate. Fuck. Yeah. Cucci turning the egg whites, all of that. Yeah, sure.

I love it. Shout out to God in the circle of life. Father Tom and mother nature. Nothing like it. Have you seen that photo on Twitter that's going viral of like, five women in like a river and they're all half naked and it's like I now understand why Christopher Columbus to conquer this place like what would you have done if you pulled up if you pulled up it's crazy it's in the river naked it's like all right it's a party it's a jamboree let's make

an accurate cartoon about it um anyways damaris how are you how's your week going how you how you feeling besides the skin glowing it's okay okay okay how are you cool I'm surviving you ain't Did yet? That's wonderful. All got allergies, but other than that, he's fine. I'm great. We holding it together. I'm great.

I just, you know, it's the summertime allergy sometimes, you know. Everybody want to cut their fucking lawn. How dare they? Yeah, like, you know. Oh, I forgot. You lived like seven hours. Yeah. Like, how much lawns are you running into?

Cut their fucking lawns. I like the smell of, like, fresh-cut grass. My kryptonite. Not to take me out of here. Really? What? Fresh-cut grass. Take me right out of it.

here, send me to the upper room. Every time. Send me right to the upper room. I like the smell of that. No, I like the smell, but it's just like when I smell it, I know it's time to like, oh, shit. Let me go in the house and close the windows. Cutting the grass at all the parks was my favorite job.

I ever had. You used to cut the grass at the parks? When I was a kid, yeah. Like, well, not a kid, a teenager. Did you know that that's, like, literally, like, cutting that smell is like, literally like the plant, like, it's excreting. Like, I don't know.

It's like, it's like basically a thing. it's painful for them. Yeah, we tried to tell you you vegans that and you won't listen to us. No, seriously. Really?

Yeah, it's associated with something like that. Like, it's almost like... Well, it's letting off an aroma because it's being cut. Yeah. I don't know if it's like... It's like plant blood.

I don't know if they... You know how when you're on your period you can smell like iron, like zinc? I don't know that. Yeah. It's like, it's the same. It's kind of like that smell.

Like, it's like... Oh, wow. That's sad. I feel bad for the grass. I mean, they're going right back. It's okay. We'll be back in two weeks Don't worry about it

Do you guys ever have summer jobs? Something I can't talk about Oh yeah That's the only type of summer job you ever had No I worked there I told you I worked fresh air fun Yeah I worked fresh air fun

And I worked at a basketball camp one year Yeah That was probably the only summer job I had Okay Only summer job I had One of my grandfather's tenants at his building 125th in Park. He had a building on the corner.

And one of his tenants had like a accounting office. I thought he made you the slum lord or something. No. And he was kicking out tenants. I was like, no. I was like, I want to say like 13 or 14. Oh my Lord.

Marks knocking on when they like your rents do. It was commercial real estate. But so like an accountant like was there, a car in office. And like I think he might have been laid out of his rent. So he like hired me like to like, I don't know. I did like his bank runs. in the secretary work.

And it was just like me running around Harlem. $5,000 on you. Go on a-nigas would have knocked you right out, baby. We took that guy. What's so funny is you probably ran into mall at his summer job in Harlem and didn't even know. What I had a summer job, Mall was literally probably like selling drugs

on his 17 pregnancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't. He was selling in your building probably. No, not that building. That wasn't your territory? They wouldn't let me. We were on my block.

Fifth and Park was... It was hate. The neighbors was nosy. That's right next to that McDonald's. I've had groceries. I've been a bus boy. I had some summer jobs, man. You never worked in a barber shop, though.

No, I never did. That was the coolest job. Yeah. Like running to the store for the barbers sweeping up, keeping the change. Yeah. You heard everybody business. I was just what I say. I know men be in there running.

You know who was fucking who. You know who killed who. Oh. You could take DNA and... Oh, man. That's another place. Selling hair, yo. Selling hair.

If you're considering catching the body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's some other DNA for you. Let me take this to Brooklyn and throw this in the lobby. Yeah. Let me find out.

Your hair was thrown in another burrow. What the fuck? I've never even been to Brooklyn. That was the first version of selling your data. Yeah. That's what the way. Yeah, just selling your hair. Absolutely.

That's funny. So my last. Brader was in a barbershop. And like when I heard the way men like I know the way men gossip because I work here. But like when I heard the way men was gossiping at barbershop like I'm just like wow.

Like y'all are. Niggas come in. They even get their hair cut. They sit down talking. Couldn't wait. I'm like oh my God. All right. What type of gossip though? Gossip. Regular fucking gossip. Ain't no differential between gossips. But I hate barbershops like that. They have like it's like a co-ed. They have some

women. working in there too like it's a hair salon and a barbers yeah it's only she's the mine is the only one girl here but all you here is the machines in the clippers niggas don't talk in them shops yeah soon as I see I'm like I'm not coming here man like was women working here I'm not coming here yeah and then if somebody like a shorthy like his mom's got to bring

him to the barbara like all the barbers is quiet like you gotta kind of like wait to shorthy leave and then it turn up again because it's certain things you just can't say around you know when there's women and shit in the barbershop yeah but I mean sometimes there's the one girl that's just there to braid hair Yeah, that's how mine is.

You can get your shit off when she's used to it. She has brothers. Yeah, but I'm saying if she has like a girl in her chairs like I don't, we don't know, Shorter. Yeah.

She related to the thing we're talking about. They let it go. And then they be sent up there drinking Johnny Walker Black passing that shit around. Imagine getting your hair braids. How many West Indians are in your barbershop? Somebody asked you,

somebody hands you some Johnny Walker Black you get fucking box braids like yeah. Yeah, it's 100, just a West Indian thing that Johnny Walker Black, Jesus Christ. I hate seeing like women bring their kids to the barber. That shit really pisses.

That bothers me. Yeah. Like why? Like you know, there's no men in your family that could have brought your son here. Yeah. They are there. It's very awkward. Like my home girls that have sons and they're like single moms, it makes them very uncomfortable.

Yeah. Like, women should not be in a barbershop. Like, I'm sorry. Like, you should, women should not, that's, that's, that's not, you should not be in a barbershop. Why, though? What's your reasoning? It's just not. That's like, that's like a man's sanctuary.

That's where. men go to like, it's like therapy, it's going to have conversations, talk shit. Like, women shouldn't be in a barbershop. Like, there's just not, like, men shouldn't be in a hair salon. Yeah, I know everything's cool and liberal now, but there should still be there's like one. Yeah, where, no, I don't want to go with my mom when I'm a kid to get her hair done. Yeah. I shouldn't be in there.

It should be a man and woman thing. Yeah. That still needs to exist. If I seen, like, I've seen like men take their daughters to the salons to get their done and they literally bring them, drop them off and safe. They're not sitting in there chilling like, you're not doing that.

They're like, I'm out of here. Like, I know she's good. Y'all going to take care of her. Like, I'll be back in two hours. Like, mm-hmm. Yeah.

And I mean, now I guess it's a little different because the city's, has changed. But you, you've been able to just drop your kid at the barbers. Like, he'd be okay.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, there's no point and drop my son off at the barbershop and then coming back because a hair cut doesn't take that long. A girl's hair appointment,

I used to be in a hair salon when I was a little girl for about four or five hours. Like, man, that shit gonna bust. Y'all gonna bust that shit out in 45 minutes or less. Like, there's no point in me leaving. I might as well just fucking stay here. Unless you look good.

My bad, I'm sorry. I went somewhere else. Did I take it somewhere else? That's why I think everything should be separated. I'm sorry. Because a predator is like you. Yeah. Wait.

Yeah, exactly. I'm a predator now? I said if you look good. Like, how's that? I just said, I was going to attack him. I'm just if you look good. Like, we welcome you into the barbershop. Like, make sure you good.

You know what I? But that's when my home, my pretty home girls, are the ones that don't like to go until our shop because you can't help even when men are trying to be respectful you can feel it so it's just like this is weird

yeah we give off a scent when we flirting it's our version of ovulating when we're looking yeah I can smell it just pre-cum just sniffing through your drugs I don't know about that

pre-cumbing in your pants soft is the craziest thing yeah that's something else I don't think that's weird your dick is dripping yeah you sit you might need to get your prostate chest

You got a deep answer. Pass the clap. Yeah, that's something different. Go get your prostate check, bro. Speaking of barbers, I introduced J. Cole and my barber to mall at the show. Finally got to meet the man behind the dreads I was picking up on the floor. Yeah. Great guy.

Did you tell him that he kept one of his J. Cole locks like a rabbit's foot on his keychain? Willis saw the clip. I made it back to him. That's one of my favorite clips of all this history of the podcast. No, man, it's all good, man. But a few of my homeboys go to him, too, though. Yeah, welles is great. I didn't know that.

Like, a few of my homeboys go to him. Yeah, no, I've known Willis forever, but I was just had my barber. And then when he moved to North Carolina, it just made sense to just go to Willis. Yeah. Known him forever. He's great. And the shop, that whole shop is amazing in the lower east side. Everybody from Dreamville seems to be a great guy.

They're good people. Except for a few in the comment. Well, you know, it's something that want to, you know, earn their stripes another way. Yeah. Well, he's Dreamville adjacent. He's like paralysis villas. Okay. Don't worry about it.

Huh? What's the difference between, is he paralyzed? He almost was after talking to mole that way. Oh, I thought, I'm like, oh, I'm like, are we being able list? Like I didn't. No, he's not. No, there was somebody in the comments being a weirdo. That's all.

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's what I was talking about the top of the episode. No, I know what you're talking about. Oh, okay. Well, it's the same person we're talking about. Yeah, okay. I just didn't know if they were paralyzed. That's what I was like, I thought you said.

Well, I hope not, because I take back everything I said if he was. Oh. Life is great, baby, D. That's all I got to say. It's beautiful. Is it? Was the barbershop buzzing after the ASAP Rocky interview? No, I don't think the barbershop was buzzing.

I haven't, well, let me not say that. I haven't been to the barbers since the interview came out. So I don't know. I'm going Saturday, so. Have you seen it? No, I saw some clips. I know I don't really sit down and watch full. Yeah, I saw some clips.

I feel like if I see two 20-minute clips, I think that's the episode. It was an hour and some change. I watched the entire thing. And I mean, the clips were obviously the meat of everything. The meat and potatoes of it all. Of what we're going to talk about. But Jason Lee did put on a great interview. Shout to Jason Lee.

Hey, Jason Lee, I ain't going to lie. Next time you're in New York, if you don't come up here, listen to, man, we got an issue. We got a beef. I just put it out there for you. Listen, man, he's in politics. Nah, man. I mean, do y'all really want Jason Lee to come up here, though? Yeah.

Yeah, I spoke to him. He said he was going to pull up. All right. When that nigga asked you something, you don't want to answer. What would he ask you that? You know he good for that. Jay Salia asked you. You know how other people would ask you things and it's like, oh, I know this person that guy asked me.

That's the difference between me. Well, let me see you. I'm not speaking for it. Between me and these other niggas. I don't have nothing that I'm not willing to talk about. Same. What do I have that I'm not willing to talk about? What do you think that I have that I'm not willing to?

You niggas cut shit out of these episodes. It'd be stuff y'all don't be willing to talk. We all have stuff we're not. If it's deemed disrespectful to an art, but it's not no personal shit though. Okay. Like, but it's like, I don't have nothing that I wouldn't, if Jason Lee, Jason Lee would ask me that I would be like shy away from like, like, yeah, I don't know none of these people like that. Two weeks ago, I did, um, Rosenberg's new podcast. He asked me, I'm sure all the shit that people would want to ask and we didn't cut anything out.

I didn't tell him he couldn't say anything. I don't know when the no funny shit podcast episode that we did comes out. It's supposed to be next week. Next week. They asked, I'm sure, everything that people wanted to know. Like, okay. Jason Lee may say it in a funny or more aggressive way. Jason Lee going to make it clip worthy.

That will make you be like, oh, okay. But I mean, he has a real friendship with Rocky, and he asked all the questions. So, no, I don't think he tiptoe around anything related to Molina. But it was a good interview. What was the most shocking thing you learned from the interview? The FERG situation, honestly, was the one I wanted to hear about the most.

I think between all the subs back and forth, the Drake Rocky Rihanna thing, I'm just not as interested in anymore. I don't really particularly care. Also, they're married with kids. And granted, I know everyone's participating in subs. Even Rihanna put up the IG posts of her and Rocky Dancing, and then the guy turned and it said, my ex in the studio.

Did she really put that out? Yeah, that was actually. That was real? That was real. That was fake. No, I saw it on, I follow her. I saw it on her story. That wasn't something that the internet.

Oh, shit. Okay. But I really just don't just care. that much about their relationship. They didn't even really get into that much depth of the entire thing. Because I really don't think there's much there except for history and shots and music.

Yeah. History, the internet shots and music. That's really it. And Rocky was pretty open about not taking his girl and she was dating the Saudi guy when he ended up getting back with her. That was as deep as that whole shit went

and I also didn't particularly care. Yeah. Because also Rihanna's never been really like, well, I'm sure she's been private of stuff we don't know about, of course. But she was making out with that Saudi guy in a pool. Like, we kind of know her dating history. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't learn anything new.

Nor did I particularly care. But yeah, it was the FERG thing was a small part of it, but the more important one to me because Ferg did do interviews where he said he dropped ASAP. And Rocky was like, I felt like that was kind of some suck of shit. Like, you're still ASAP. that FERG on every platform, why are you making it a thing to go out and make sure everyone knows you drop the ASAP shit? He also talks about some of their history, which is his perspective.

Right. And of course, there's three sides to a story. I'd love to hear FERG, but his, his perspective was when they started out, they was called ASAP Red, Rocky, and D. Ferg. Yep. They were a group. They were peers. Rocky ended up getting signed, and then Ferg signed to him. So he went from being his rap partner to now you're my artist. And he thinks that may have caused some some type of friction as the time went and Ferg wanted to be his own man and get off the label. Right. So I get that, but I did like how he ended it and said, I'd love to talk with Ferg. Like, there's no shit that we can't fix. Like, he's like, this isn't like some beef or whatever. Yeah. We can fix this with a conversation, which I hope they do. It didn't sound that crazy, but I don't know. We watched Ferg and Rocky for years and not

seeing them together and ASAP with the Raleigh shit and the Bari shit. Like it looked a little odd of what was going on with ASAP of this crew of kids that we've loved when they're together. So that was it. I didn't need anything from the ASAP Raleigh situation. I didn't think Rocky's like, I forgive you. Yeah, no. Like it was just a cool interview.

Rocky rarely talks these days. So it was just a cool interview of two friends. From the clips I saw from the clips I saw. From the clips I saw, I like the fact that he did an interview with someone. He's obviously very close to their family because he seemed very relaxed and comfortable. Like even the way he was talking when Jason asked him like, is Tyler, like, Tyler's your friend. It's Tyler really gay.

And he was like, nah, like, nigger really gay. Like, we never talked about it, but he act like a duck. He keeps telling y'all he's gay. Like, he must be gay. And Jason was like, you know, I would date Tyler and then Rocky was just like, oh, I can't think about that. I can't think about that because it's like there's both so close to him that he's like, You know, like when you hear about your friend's dating, it's like, ugh, I don't want to see that.

I thought that that was like, it was cool. It was really, it was really down the earth. I loved learning that him and Rihanna take RVs and go out and travel and be, like, he said Rihanna be in the back of Walmart, barefoot cooking on the grill. Like, I think that that's super cute and relatable and dope. And he also said Rihanna be in the studio making music, but he might just be trolling us. So I don't think he was trolling. I'm not going to get my hopes up. But I always think all artists are in the studio.

that doesn't mean they're in the studio focused on something that's going to have a deadline. Yeah, just create. Like, yeah, like, I think Rihanna has been in the studio this entire time, but I don't know if it's been serious. Like, well, she did the Smurf sound like, so. But even then, I think she's just working on shit. I think all artists do that until they catch, catch something that may spark. Okay, now we can start a project.

Yeah. Like, this feels like the starting point. So, but I mean, I hope because Rocky said that, that means she's in there being serious. Like, it's time. Anna, I did like his, uh, he, he was very objective when Jason asked him, what about a Rocky and Rihanna album? And he said, nobody want to hear that shit, bro. I love that.

Nobody. I love that. Because I don't particularly. Nobody wants to hear that. I wouldn't mind, um, a Rocky, like, EPing of Rihanna project. I wouldn't be mad at that. But I don't need a rocky verse on every Rihanna song. Like, I just, I just don't.

I just don't. I just don't. I like Rocky, don't. Yeah. I get it. I'm just cool on that. I wouldn't mind another little fashion killer, like another little. No, I hope if she puts out an album, there's one Rocky song, of course.

Like, I wouldn't doubt that. But a full project, like, that's a lot. It's a lot. Oh, I meant like just him in a video or something. But yeah, like, I'm not mad at him being like, yeah, on something. But I mean, I guess the most salacious stuff was the trailer. Yeah. Like, that's why I really don't have too much here.

Like, yo, Drake don't want to see me. All right, cool. I'm not even going to sit here and debate on who I think I would fight, even though we joked about it before, but like, I don't know, Rocky's a man. He's supposed to feel that way. He can't see me. All right. Nobody wants to see that.

No, I don't want to see Rocky. You know how nasty that would be? Like, that's just nasty. Like, based over where Rihanna posting on her IG, like, it's just like, that's just for them to then fight, it's like. No, I would be. I would not watch. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm saying.

I don't care. I'm saying, I don't want to say. I don't want to see it doesn't mean if it happened I wouldn't watch it I want to make that clear you hope it doesn't but right I hope it doesn't think I wouldn't be home but if you tell me that yo Netflix is is having the fucking Drake ASAP Rocky fight tomorrow don't do that mom you walk him out the tunnel no I was just I was just great to say I'm watching that you almost have to watch that you had no else am I watching what else am I watching if I'm not watching that like what else would I be doing

if I'm not watching that. You have to watch that. Of course the whole world would... Yeah, like, that's like, what? Like, is this real? Like, they're about to really fight? Like, that's like... That would do...

That would do Jake Paul, Mike Tyson numbers. That would... It probably do more. That would do way... That would be the most watched event, probably, in Netflix history. It might be... What Drake and Asap Rocky boxing? Yo, it would...

Drake and Asaph fighting on Netflix, that is the most watched Netflix event. the undercard? I don't give what fuck, who's an undercar? Soldier Boy versus everybody. Like, just let niggas just brawl for the undercar. Put 20 people in the ring and let him fight. Like that, though, come on, man. Everybody will watch the, but

of course, we don't want to see that. That would fuck up the whole rap world, though. Because if those two guys decide to put the gloves on, I don't want to hear any y'all rappers that threaten each other online and then afterwards go, I'm too big for that. Oh,

I need a bigger bag for that. No, no. Sack Rocky and Drake just fucking fought. And they got a bag. You got a getting the fucking ring. They got a stupid bag for that 500 mil? Yeah, them niggas. They thumbed. What? I say $750. A piece?

Yeah. That's crazy. I'll fight any of you niggas for $7.50. If the Saudis get a hold of that, yeah. That's a $1.5 billion at minimum. That might be more. To bust down. That would be crazy. If the Saudis got a hold of the

Drake Boxing Matt. Yo, 750 million? Yeah, that'll get it done. That number will get it done. That number will get it done. And if you have two months to lead up with a doc... 24-7? You got Andrew Tate, train and Rocky, like, dock.

This is $2 billion. What's the lowest you guys are taken to fight your ex's new one in the ring? Your ex's new guy. These medical bills are way higher than I anticipated. I mean, if I'm a figure like that, like a Drake or... No, if you're you, I'm talking about you. Lois? I don't know.

Lined it up. I'll fight that nigga for free. I don't give a fuck. I mean, like, it's a televised event. Like, how much would you take? You have a number because you're not just going to go in there and fight him for free. Yeah, but I don't know. Give me a few M's.

I'll do it. Okay. Rory? A few M's, I'll do it for sure. My perspective on this is to maximize how much. I could, there's not like a number per se. I would do it because I would want to maximize how much money I could get.

I said what's the lowest you would take? You wouldn't accept anything under. But I'm mad at this guy. Like I don't like like them. Yeah, I ain't really, you don't really fuck with him. It ain't like beef. Like, but you don't really fuck him like that. Like, you fucking your favorite chick.

Oh, I thought you said, I thought it was, I thought it was my girl's ex. No, your ex is new man. I don't want to fight my ex's new man. Yeah, that's how. But I'm just saying for a bag. I'll fight anybody. Right.

To be televised, I'd want over, over 500K, total of everything that we could put around it. I'm saying merch, like we could put content around it, like everything around all in 500K for me to leave with. Okay. I'd do it probably for free if I was mad. I'm just saying, if I'm going to go on camera to fight, I'd like to get as much money as I think I could out of the situation. 100%. And I think if I fought on camera and we could get a good backstory and we could properly promote it, I think I could walk away as a Z-list celebrity with Bob McKay.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Let the Saudis get a hold of it. It might be $5 million. I don't think I'm on the Saudis radar. What about each other? Fight each other. Me and Roy?

No, I'm not fighting, Rory. For no amount of money? No. Wait, what about the exhibition shit that they be doing, like the friendly shit? Yeah. Like, no knockouts. I'm not fighting Rory. They couldn't pay me enough to fight Rory.

Oh, wow. Why? I'm not fighting my guy. Like, we're crazy? I'll beat the shit out of D'Amara. If they were to give me, if they were to give me, me and D'Maris can fade.

I've been weighing. I'm going to say, me and D'Amaris can fade because she might really take off on me. Me and D'Maris can fade. But, nah, me and I wouldn't fight Rory, though. He just had a strike. bro. Like, just like,

in somebody in the wheelchair. I wouldn't do that. Honestly, that is. Like, I need to be very careful with what I, like, say to anyone. Like, even just walking down the street, my equilibrium right now, my balance. Ooh, one hit, your ass spinning and falling.

What? Back pockets. Front pockets. All pockets. A much might put me down right now. Yeah. No, I wouldn't fight. Damn.

And you used to definitely be that guy. We used to go out and get drunk. And you used to pop a lot of shit, yo. Nah, I would. Pop a lot of shit. shit, no. Was I always unfortunately down to fight and didn't always win?

Yes, but I was never a pop shit guy. Yeah, I don't see Roy. Rory wouldn't start nothing. I'm not like screaming. I saw Rory try to beat up the fucking guy in the parking garage. What did you try to fight a guy in a parking garage for? I don't even remember. He was wrong. I forgot what it was, but I do remember

reacting the way I reacted and I wouldn't react that way unless I was really wrong. Why are you trying to fight the parking lot of tension? No, he was wrong. Like it was, I don't know what it was. Who put my seat back? Who put my seat back? Like, yo, you tripping, bro. Get in the car. Relax. No, he just, I forgot what he did. He did something. I just can't remember what it was. Because I wouldn't have got that mad. What could a parking lot attendant possibly do unless he damaged your car or something like? Car was fine. I can't remember. What could he have done for you want to fight him? This was how long it was this? This was 2022.

February, 2020. It was the day my best. It was the day I had buried my best friend. So I was there physically. I wasn't there mentally. And Rory had taken me and some of my home girls out so that like I could feel better or get distracted or whatever. And I don't remember what it was, but Rory was really trying to beat up the parking.

I don't know what it was. I really don't know what it was. But we was all out drunk. Yeah, see, I'm glad you changed your life. But you can't, all I'm saying is you can't do shit like that now. Wrong, right, indifferent. You can't do shit like that now. No.

Yeah, one wrong step. And I'd knock myself out. Yeah. Just walking. Damn, y'all want me to get in the ring with my guy. I wouldn't do that. But healthy, though, if it was at the right price and we were sparring, that could be fun. I've sparred.

Well, last time I sparred with a cousin, he broke my ribs. See? Jesus. That was right when we started this podcast. He don't like you. You know what I know. That's my guy. Shout to Patty Farrell.

So why would he, his name is who? Patty. Oh, I thought you said Peggy. I was going to say. You can't fight in Hawaii name Patty. He sounded like he was a well-to-weight champion at one moment. No, he really, he's the, I mean, he's a trainer now at World Boxing Gym in Jersey City. he was a professional fighter.

Patty? You have to be an Irish man named Patty? You have to be a fucking fighter. Or a podcast engineer. Patty Farrow? You gotta be a fighter. Fall professionally

and now he's a jury city firefighter. You go shout out to Patty Farrell. That's what's up, yo. My God, Patty. Yeah. He probably well built or two. Keeping us going.

He married? I've already said too much about him. Oh, my bad. Sorry. Marry just want to know what you were. He already broke my ribs once. Yeah. It's yours next.

The jaw's next is bad, funny. Roy, do you plan on, like, getting back into, I know you were doing kickboxing or like boxing for a while. Kickboxing is crazy. Well, boxing for a while. Remember when I was called J. Tyboho? Yeah, that bring back a lot of memories, man. That was a dangerous time in the city, man, depending on what side of the line you was on?

Things were real dangerous back then, man. Did y'all laugh at that? Hell yeah. Tybo ho is hilarious. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that's funny. We're gonna laugh in here. When we get out there, it's stone faces.

We ain't laughing that shit. And here, it's funny, though. He said, I'm trying to kick knowledge, you tie bo-ho. And now look, in Yankee Stadium. Love it. You know what I mean? They give the friendly spa and that everything finally got a bag together. A good little friendly rap fade, that's all.

But I'm allowed to, like, do actual physical activity as of my appointment that I had on Tuesday. Okay. But no, I'm not going to be getting back in the ring anytime soon. I'm going to, like, try to jog this weekend and see how that goes. Oh, good, man. Yeah. Maybe like this there, man. But I do want to get back to, like, at least twice a week.

Maybe not sparring, but actually going back to the boxing gym, for sure. That was, I was in my happiest time when I was hitting the bag, pause. Okay. Need to get back there. Okay. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go.

Unless you go to go boxing. Huh? Boxing? Yeah, I need to let out a lot of frustration. What's wrong? Just a lot going on. But I was thinking about boxing. I feel like that would help.

I feel like you always got some shit going on. Are you okay? It's life treating you like fine. I'm fine. Oh, my. You got to take boxing classes to let some shit out. You're not fine, baby, D. I feel like everybody has like pent up like things, no?

Yeah, okay, sure. But just to like, be like, yeah, I need to like. I'm not drinking anymore, remember? so I need to know for real. I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call you. Peech. Have I been drinking?

DeMaris. Peach has been lowering me out. De Maris. Peach has been luring me out like it like cousin it underneath the fucking the great like holding up like martinis and I have not been taking him. I've ignoring his text. I've ignored his calls. Since last weekend?

Yeah. It's August 6th. Four days. Hey man, I had a lot go out. Man, I haven't taken it though. And I'm not going to. So I feel like boxing will be a good outlet. Maris.

your ass is going to be drinking this weekend. Cut the shit. Push to September. Push to September. I am. No, push to September. No. If I start drinking right now, I won't stop.

Like I told Rory, I'm like, if I start drinking right now, I won't stop. So this is a good time. This is not drink. When you like, you know. So how long? How many days it's been since you had to drink? Eight.

That's a lie. Oh, no. So seven. That's a lie. Wait, when was cold? You was drinking last weekend. We ain't, the, Cold concert was the first.

So five days. five days five days in the summer in New York that's good that's not good that's hard

peach peach he's supposed to be doing it with me he hit me yesterday like y'all relapsed five days of not drinking it's not hard

to matter in New York City in the summer I don't keep with you five days is not hard to not have

we walk past a drink every time you walk out the door you walk past at least five drinks yo when I leave out of here

it's happy hour okay in an area that has some great happy hours great happy hours I'm going straight home I was so excited at the cold show I went up to try to find a coffee because that's like what helped me at the

the Jay Z show I would have stood in line was like I can I just have a coffee please like oh we got rid of that because of COVID I was like yo what that was the craziest shit when Rory came back to the scene said that I was like I was ready to leave

at that point I was like all right Give me out of here. What are those two things have to do with each other? We stop selling coffee because of COVID? It's 2026 in the Barclay Center. Also, to be fair, I would have been like, no, we got rid of coffee because nobody's fucking buying it.

We have three people who asked us for coffee this year. Like, the fuck is going to the Barclays ordering coffee. You don't think people go to basketball games and get coffee? Coffee is the most normal thing to have in any arena. You know what I mean? Coffee and beer? That's two of the most common drinks probably in the world. Yeah.

Parents that go to, like, bring their kids to shows and music they probably don't like. Yeah, I'm going to get a coffee or something. Like the announcers, people that are working, it's like, yeah. They're drinking coffee. You need coffee in the arena. Like, that's the fact. Me and peas be white clawed up. Now how about.

Like, not selling coffee because of COVID. Well, what the fuck are we talking about, bro? Yeah. That's why I'm never going to the Barclays again. I'm never going. There was only one stand that had a Yankee Stadium when it was one of, of their personal ones. The only reason wasn't because of COVID.

They said we didn't think anybody would want hot coffee in 90 degree weather. And I was like, you have a good point. Yeah. So what was this at? Yankee Stadium. For the JZ shit. Yeah.

Okay, okay. You found some coffee though, didn't you? Yeah, no, I'm saying it was one stand had it. You know, they just made it for us. In Yankee Stadium. That's a fact. They have a state house. They said they weren't making the pots

because they didn't think anybody was at a JZ show in 90 degree weather. Like, let me get coffee. Let me get a hot latte. No, the Yankee Stadium. had a whole steakhouse. I discovered that. Because the drink lines were so long.

I was looking for the bathroom. And I was like, oh, it's the steakhouse. I went in there. Got me a little app and some drinks. No, no. The Yankee Stadium, they got, they're going to take care of you. Everything's for certain.

You hungry in the Yankee Stadium. It's going to cost you. For sure. But you're going to eat, though. Listen, going to buy a steak at Yankee Stadium is the highest form of capitalism you could ever do. 1,000%. You're doing an eye and life.

If you could eat a steak at Yankee Stadium, You're doing an eye to life. Like, you do, things are okay for you. Without a doubt, 100%. Yeah, I got a drink. That was a double.

It was $35. I was like, you got it, though. Life is good. Meada way. I went and bought that expensive ass Fear of God shirt.

Oh, you got too much money for me. Ran into Jerry on the field area. He said, why you buy that? I said, Ben, I would go return this right there. I would have returned that shit right then. Stay right here. I'm actually come with me.

He said, No, that. I said I was trying to support you. I will go return this right now. Right now. Yeah, just give me your address. I was like, all right, man. Shout out to Jay. Last time I support my friends. Yeah, tell them to

send some merch for the pod. Like, he said, he sent, he sent Jayelect this P coat for the fall that they're putting out. I told Jay, I said, we share that coat. That's our coat. We share that coat. You and Jayleck could fit the same coat? Yeah. Oh, okay. It's a little oversized on me, but like I feel like his arms a little bit stronger than yours.

Thank you. No, I... Yeah. Thank you for that observation. I appreciate that. Thank you for that, baby, D. My bad. I'm sorry.

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All those uptown rules, y'all tried to tell us that Harlem sticks together. Harlem's not messy. Harlem doesn't do that. Y'all been doing some messy-ass shit. I mean, collectively, Harlem is pretty much sticks together. But there's some pockets of people in Harlem that don't fuck with each other. Absolutely. I've seen this crime statistics.

Doesn't look like everyone sticks together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody does not stick together in Harlem. I can promise you that. But, yeah, Kim went up on his podcast and told the story. that Cardi's team had reached out to him about him doing a verse for Cardi years ago. I forgot what,

she wanted to redo. This was before she redid the imaginary player shit. She had asked Cam, I forgot what Cam Ron record it was, but they wanted to redo one of the Cam records and have Cam do a new verse on it. So Cam's like, I don't know if I could get around to it.

When's the album dropping? And Cardi's team was like, we're not dropping the album without you doing this. so like we need you to do this now because we need it ASAP so we could put it out. And he's like, I don't believe y'all, but okay. Blocked out an hour and knocked it out, sent it to them. Obviously they had talked about either payment or an interview.

Same situation with the cold thing. Right. Years past, he said. He's like, I forgot about it. Then my home girl came out to me and said, yo, the new Cardi's dope. He said, I didn't even know about it. It was the imaginary player shit.

The Alka came out and he hit Cardi's team. It was like, are you guys either going to pay me or is she going to do an interview? Just because imaginary player? No, they went a different direction. Originally they wanted to, I forgot what Cameron song they wanted to do. Oh, but they went to play instead. They went imaginary player instead. Gotcha.

Or he was saying that they scrapped the camera on one because some of the younger people didn't take to Cardi rapping over the 90s imaginary player. So like, I think we can't have two of these. Okay. So Cam, which he's not the first artist. Some artists, if you ask me to do a verse and you don't keep, it, that got nothing to do with me. Yeah, I still worked. Like, you have to pay me for my time. And if you're telling me it's not that Cardi didn't like the verse, it's because you guys

had to pivot and do a different direction because of your other shit. What, what I got to do with that? Yeah, you still owe me my interview or whatever. Yeah. I held up my end of the bargain. So I'm on board with Cam all the way here. And to the point, I was with Cam with the J. Coat shit. For how long that took, like now you ignoring me. Now the only way I can get your attention after a few years is I got to send you a lawsuit. Like, I don't want to do that, but you're not replying to me. Right. So I'm still with Cam through all this. Then he goes, if y'all don't give me my money or my interview, I know some people on y'all team that be on all fours and like to get their booty licked and they booty play with. And I got the text

messages. I leak everything. And I was like, Cam, what the fuck is wrong with you? Wait, what? No, the same way I just made a left right there is exactly how he did. I was like, whoa, wait, I was just on board. Well, wait a damn minute. Hold on. His response to that was, I know people on your team that be on all fours. By the way, he also gave Cardi a lot of bail. He said, Cardi may not know anything about this.

There's a lot of people in the music industry that will promise some shit on behalf of an artist. Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't even know it at all. Yeah, no, 100%. He was like, Cardi may hear this and go, what the fuck is Cam talking about? Right. A lot of people. do that shit.

Yo, I'll make sure Cardi do an interview if you do this for us. Like, fuck. Cardi ain't say that. So he wanted to make it very clear.

This isn't specifically a Cardi thing, more the people on her team. But those people on the team, he happens to have a lot of dirt on and their sexual preferences and their freak,

you know, their freak flag goes a little high and waves. It's at half-mast right now. Yeah, but that being like your canvas crazy. To be fair,

that's like black Like, you just, like, did admit it to... So a part of, yeah, I was looking at the timeline. It didn't really go the way I think Cam thought it was. A lot of people were like, this is revenge porn. That's revenge porn, blackmail. Like, that's like illegal. That's not revenge.

Wait, he has video? He was alluding to having a lot of evidence. Oh, yeah, you can't do that. I thought he would say he was going to start naming some names or something else to say that. It's not revenge porn. But if he was talking about putting out picks and videos, yeah, you can't do that. But look at the lynch, you guys. to go to just to get like and if i'm if i'm said person that be on all four is like i'm

can't cardi up like yeah yeah yeah we might need to clear that we got we got to do what we yeah yeah we got to go ahead and send that so either do that interview or he could live in his truth now i mean yeah there's always that i'm cool can's an activist it don't matter no more like that ain't that ain't that ain't what a use now what if he he's married i was about to say he might have a girlfriend of family. That don't. Because sometimes that other

dipland dabbling DL shit is with men that are married with children. We've seen all kind of deal accusations and girls still be humping on these dudes. I don't care.

That's not the majority ball. That's the exception, not the rule. Only in Atlanta. I just want to know when we're going to start being real. This should be real. Nobody cares about that. shit. Nobody cares

about that. Either way you shouldn't leak intimately. No, that I agree with it. You shouldn't put out no pics and videos. No. 100. That's great. How big is Cam's platform? Like, you're right. Putting out pictures of someone on your platform. I agree. But my thing is, what's

going to happen after that? It'll be to talk for fucking 12 hours and then something else that happened and people will keep scrolling and nobody will revisit that ever again. Nobody even talk about that. I'll go even further. How much crazy shit that we saw, well we're like, yo, that's fucking wild. Like, we don't even think about that shit

no more. We see crazy shit of people we know. We probably don't even know who this person is. Yo. What? That Isaiah Rashad shit. Niggins just listen to the music. Perfect example. Nobody even talks or thinks about that shit no more. Nobody gives it. I don't think nobody cared at that time either.

People cared at the time. So back to what the fuck I just said, nobody cares. Let's stop acting like that's going to affect somebody's life. All right. So either way, whether someone's closeted, D.O. out about their gayness but only amongst their circle. Everyone should have their own right

to police their sexuality to the public. I agree with that. Someone else shouldn't be able to do that. I'm not saying that makes it okay for Cam to put out a picking video of somebody. No, that's crazy. I'm saying if he did, that ain't going to affect the person's life at all. They might start a go-fund of me.

He might make $20 million for him doing that. You don't know that. You don't know what people's parents beliefs are, what religious beliefs they have. You don't know. Let me tell you something. If you got parents like that, That's holy roly like that.

That's not a, all that. They already know you gay. No, they don't. Sometimes they don't. Shit. I don't know. The gay outing package now is 5K for a Vlad interview and then you got to move on with your life. Nah, they started to go fund me.

You, you, you, you, you start to go fund. What's the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, what are you, what are you, what are you raising money for? Because, remember they, they, they fired her for saying, saying, right? remember they fired her for using the N-word they started a go-fund-me for her she made like over 500,000 how many fucking shifts she would have to work in Auntie Annie's to make $500,000

dollars? If Cardi B fires him for being gay and she fucking was cashed out nobody cares. It was insane. Yeah, like nobody cares about that shit. But if Cardi B fires this gentleman for being gay, then a go-fund me would make sense. Well, yeah, Cardi's not going to do that. Of course, she's not doing that. That's what I'm saying.

What does it affect? Okay, yes, family, parents, maybe be like, oh, we didn't know you was into that lifestyle. Cool. What is that going to change? You're not invited to Thanksgiving dinner? That's like, I know you don't give a fuck, but like that's important to some people. Nobody gives a fuck about that.

Go to Cardi's house for Thanksgiving dinner. She could probably got better food anyway. Oh my God. Who gives a fuck? I mean, I'm sure there's a chef. I'm sure it's, I'm sure it's delightful. What are we talking about? Like, your family's going to disown you for your sexuality.

Are you serious? Like, come on, bro. I don't think no, I don't think nobody that's a. around Cardi comes from a family that's going to disown them if they're gay. I disagree. Who? For sure. I'm sure Cardi has a lot of people that have.

I think anybody that's around Cardi that's working around Cardi, I think they're probably, it's safe to say they're from New York to East Coast. Like, we're not, that's not a part of our culture disowner for gay shit. How many of your friends have first generation? That's not a part of your culture, first generation, Jamaica and first generation. They'd be the main gay ones. but it's not accepted that's not the point it's not accepted

I just don't I don't want to just throw out nobody cares if you're gay shit because that's not true you live in New York City you're black American and you're in our urban space damn there everything is accepted by us not everybody the world the rest of the world does not operate like that all right let's pivot here should Cam apologize for that

because to me for Cam for his age apologize that you can't threaten you as a supporter of Cam I think that's nasty that's wrong you can't say you're gonna even though I don't Cam was probably joking when he said that. But I'm just saying, you can't. I've joked about that on this part of one of my fake ops that I know about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You should never out anybody. That's not, no, you shouldn't do that. But again, if somebody is out, if somebody's gay tape leaked today online and a celebrity like... Gay tape is hilarious. I don't know why gay tape. Okay, gay sex tape. Is that better? Somebody's gay sex tape leaked online today.

It's a topic for six hours maybe. Ronald will fucking sign with a U.S. American soccer team right after that, nobody's even talking about your gay sex tape anymore. Which Ronaldo had a gay sex tape? No, I said Ronaldo will sign with a U.S. soccer team. That's bigger news than you having a gay sex tape. Nobody cares. So I'm saying nobody gives a fuck.

Like we got to stop acting like- He cares. Yeah, but I just don't know. I just don't think that that's the, the thing that it once was before, like, oh my God, he's gay or she's gay? Who cares? Nobody gives a fuck? We don't watch people get fucking sexually assaulted.

They can still support them. We ain't see it. No? You're right. A lot of y'all still post all Kelly songs on your fucking stories. Separate the art from the man. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. Oh, my God.

When I was in Virginia, I went out with my sister and there was a full R. Kelly, like, you know, I bet it was. A full R. Kelly set. Mind you. I bet it was. We live in New York. So like if you, it's risky playing R.

Kelly out here because it's, the most crowds will boo your ass if you play R. Kelly out here and you won't get hired again. But I was, there was a full R. Kelly set. And I was like, oh, y'all like grooved this shit. Like nobody,

I'm the only one looking around. Like, what the fuck we're doing? Let me tell you how weird it is now. I purposely somebody had posted. It was some, some shit that came across my Instagram. And it was like in a record shop. and they was playing R. Kelly.

I purposely commented, said, turn that shit off. You know how many people come? And I knew this was going to happen. Nah, we turning that up. Sick.

You, this is how the world is now. You weird, you're a widow if you don't support somebody that sexually assaulted a child. You're a widow now. That's crazy as fuck.

So y'all going to sit there tell me that somebody being just gay, an adult having consensual sex with the same sex, people are going to be like oh that's crazy like who nobody people do not get you're a weirdo if you have a stance on you know they sexist old somebody get them the fuck out of it now they're looking at you like yo what's up with you bro what's up with me y'all sitting here playing this man's music doing this to support this way y'all know what he did

and because i'm saying turn that shit off now i'm the weirdo don't let now i'm a hate i'm a hater don't let you say turn tory off you say turn tory off they be ready to turn this So this is what I'm saying. When y'all say shit like gay, consensual sex with adults? Nope. Bro, people don't give a fuck about people being sexually assaulted. Of course. So what do we talk about, bro?

Consensual? Come on, man. Nobody cares about that shit. I get it for the moment. It'd be like, oh, shit. I didn't know that person was gay. It'd be a little, you know, but right after a couple hours, nobody cares about that.

I'm sure Cardi and the whole team would have been like, I could have told you all that. They probably know. that already. That's probably how she found out who did it. Exactly. Oh, he's talking about Tony. All right. Tony, bring your ass in here real quick. She went right to the group chat like knowing Cardi does it's probably exactly what it was. She had the group chat like, no. Camp think he got the T on her. She no. Cardi, no. Like, come on. Like, we, you know what

I'm saying? Like, that's what I'm saying? Nobody is just that nobody cares about that shit. That's funny. That's all. Um, so I had a question for y'all because I got into an argument with a man who was trying to tell me because I, Right. Huh? Huh? I stand with him. Great.

I said that I think that Zara Larson has the potential to be, like, huge. If she just has... Potential. Isn't she already? She's already huge, though. That's not... I'm talking Taylor Swift, huge. Oh, okay.

Yes. If she gets the right team behind her and has that one album that just, like, makes her inescapable. I think she can be... Not many people can be Taylor Swift huge. I'll say Ariana Grande, huge, right? And he said, nah, she's not next. Olivia Dean. is next when it comes to that pop superstardom.

It's different. And that's what I said. Olivia Dean is completely different from Zara Larson. Zara Larson is more in the Britney Spears trajectory. Olivia Dean is, I mean, she's a star, but I wouldn't say pop, though. Like, it's a different type of pop. She's a more like Billy Islesh World, who'd you say? I'm asking.

You guys seem way more well-versed in this movie. Olivia Dean is more... She got a little bit of ass, right? No, Olivia Dean knows. Yes. Okay. Now I'm mixing up my whites. You know, come be the man I need.

I like that's one. I like that's one. I got something to give. Yes. So she gives more, she makes this type of music that can be played in coffee shops. Well, they both do.

But I feel like Olivia Dean as a person, I feel like these days to be the next huge, huge thing, huge pop star. You have to kind of be like polarizing. You have to have like that personality. that sass that makes people either love you or hate you, makes people want to ride for you. Olivia Dean is just likable across the board,

which means that she won't be, her as a person won't be discussed much. The music, yes, but her as a person won't be discussed much. And I feel like to be such a major pop star now, you kind of need that. You want people to fall in love with you and not just the music. Yeah, I'm tapping out.

I don't know which would be the better, bigger star. I mean, they're both big star. I mean, obviously Olivia, had one of the biggest songs right now. Azar Larsson is, I think that she's, you know, again, she's more trending on that Britney Spear's side of star. She dances. I think, I can see a lot of young girls wanting to look like her,

dress like her, you know, and she, again, Olivia Dean, I don't think Olivia Dean dances. She doesn't perform like the way Azara performs. Zara is more performative. She dances, has, you know, dances on stage. It's just a different aesthetic with Zara. It's more of a superstar, pop star aesthetic to me. Olivia Dean is going to make huge songs.

The best music. Her music is going to be huge. Like, you know what I'm saying? But as far as like just personality, style, look, aesthetic, I think Zara Larson covers all of those things. I feel like nowadays it takes more than just the music. You got to have. Oh, I mean.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm confusing everyone. Okay, I know Olivia Dean very well. I know you. Yeah, okay, okay. I was thinking of, who's the white girl that has a little bit of ass that's a white pop star? Zara. No, not Zara.

It's another girl. Isn't Olivia something? Are you small Olivia Rodriguez? I don't know. Either way. No, Olivia Dean is out of here. Yeah, no, she's. She's always going to be successful.

But when we're talking about like pop superstardom, like that girl, like the tailors, the brittneys, the Ariana Grande's. When was the last time we had like a traditional white? pop star, like the way Brittany was where you have the dance, the video, that whole package. Like, Taylor's up there with a fucking guitar singing her songs, but she's not Britney.

She's not Christina. We're talking about bigness. We're not talking about the... I'm asking a new, new question. Like, is that gone? If it is, if it was, Zara's bringing it back. Yeah, watching this Lila Faloosa shit, that does look more Britney-esque

with the dancing. 100%. So, they tried to make Tate McCray be that, right? But the thing about Tate McCray that is big when you're trying to be like the pop superstar, when you're trying to be the Britney's, whatever, the Christina, you have to, the blacks got to like you too. Was Miley an attempt at that? Miley was never really a dancer. She was a dance in a dancer.

But Miley was the big pop star. I mean, Britney's in her own lane with the dancing shit. But yeah, Miley, Miley was. Miley, Ariana is who I would think of. Miley, Ariana, Olivia Rodrigo for a while. But yeah, like I said, they tried to make it Tate McCrae, but she just, people don't really care. You know, Zara, she's out of here. She's perfect.

I mean, she does fit that Brittany category where I can't tell if she's 21 or 38. So, no, she's definitely a Brittany. So she's 28. Okay. Yes, she's 28. Right in the middle. Mm-hmm. And she can, Zarr can sing.

Yeah, no, she's, she's talented. She headlined? I don't think she was the headliner. Tate McCray was the headliner. Damn. Pige's looking this up because Pige knows his whites. Did you see that, like, aerial shot out if it was drone or helicopter of Lollapalooza? Yeah.

Never seen anything. Yeah, like they just sell a ticket at this point. I've never wanted to be at more than that. It looks so insane. Yeah. I can't do events like that. Yeah, it looked like that. Oh, my God. That's insane. That's a lot of people to be performing in front of it. That's, I wouldn't, that's.

Look at there's not even space around the speed. Like, holy shit. That's crazy. Yeah, nah, I can't. I'm not designed for that. My nervous system is not designed for that. But it doesn't feel as packed. It feels packed when you're in there, but, you know, when you're moving around and stuff like, but yeah, that's bad. I mean, I've been to festivals that are sold out and running through those type of areas, but all the way to the back, usually like it trickles out a little bit around the gates. It's a little empty, yeah. I don't know.

That, like, looked unwalkable. Yeah, nah, I'm cool. And didn't it just rain like a few hours before that? Oh, everyone just wet and wet, hot dog water. Everybody smell like hot dog water. Yeah, nah. I got to catch her. I want to see a live show, though.

Who's our? That's Zara? No, that's Tate McCra. You got to catch up on your whites, yo. They look alright. You don't know your whites. You got to, you got to update your white. Update your iOS when it comes to the whites.

So, Roy, you're voting over Zara Larson. You're voting Olivia Dean. Well, I've only listened to Olivia Dean's music. So I'm not sure about Zara. They're two different artists, though. They are two different artists. Olivia D. Makes absolutely incredible music, but I feel like...

That's Zara. That midnight sun? That's my shit. That's all shit. You heard her do an a cappella at Lalapalooza? Yeah. She can sing. Mm-hmm.

Like, she's really, she's not like a studio artist where they just put a pretty girl in the studio and put all the bells and whistles around and like she can really sing. But one thing I've realized recently, a lot of these artists, and this is no shade to Zara have pitch correcting mics. Oh, that's almost all of them now. That's a bunch of people. That's not just, that don't just stop with, do we get named a bunch of, I've been to plenty of shows. I'm like, you can hear it. Yeah. And I'm not mad at it.

Like, sound is close to the. record as possible, but then there's some who are absolutely against that and they're like, no, but I can really sing on key. So, you know. I don't think there's a single artist on that type of level, on like a festival stage or a arena stadium that does not have a pitch correct. Yeah. That's almost, you could name like the singer, they all have one. Yeah. Especially if you're dancing, it's there for safety. Yeah. Like certain records, we're going to put the pitch correction on it because you're about to do a whole court. Yeah, you're going to be out of breath. Yeah. I don't think there's a single artist that doesn't have a pitch correct.

As long as it's not, now if it's ballot time and there's just you and the piano, the keys, and then you're using it, I'm looking at you crazy. But when you're dancing and moving around and jumping this explosion shit happening, I'm not mad at you having a pitch corrective mic. Beyonce doesn't have one on when she performs, I care. Right. When she's getting busy, I'm sure there's some TV tracks,

something that is going to help just in case. There's a TV, there might be a track in the back, but Beyonce does not use a pitch corrected mic. She would come up here and whip you all. asked if she heard you say that. I don't think she used a pitch correct in Mike, but, you know, if she did, who would be bad at that? If he did, nobody would care.

But Pete said, did you see the minor league baseball game national anthem? I mean, I saw people talking about it being the worst thing that's ever happened. Who was singing? I think it was a group. Let me play it. We can play it, right? Yeah, we should be able to play this. It's America.

Of course we can play. If they flag. That's crazy. Saluting to this is hilarious. At the twilight's gleaming, whose broad stripes and bright star

are the sky. Oh, my God. All the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming. Take my head off. Take your hat off. And the rock is right. Oh, Jesus.

Yeah. Okay, that's enough. Yo. Just the viz to get busy. No. Wow. That was worse than Carl Lewis. Remember what Carl Lewis saying to that?

I do. You don't remember that? No. Wow. Show my age. Great Olympium. Show my age. Um.

That was terrible. That was good and terrible. Good. Sometimes I want, like, do you think old people know when they go viral? No. They don't even know what that is. Like, do you, do you, do you? think the three of them have any idea that this is the thing on the internet?

What you call? Oh, y'all have never seen this move forward? Oh, say can you see and the rocket's regular? Oh my god. I'll make up for it now. Oh, the land of the free. Yo, that was the craziest shit ever. Did you watch it in real time?

Hell yeah, that was the Nets and the Bulls playing. Hell yeah, watched that game. Didn't Furgy have a crazy one? Probably, yeah, but I mean, that's the thing is. Awful one. Yeah. A couple of people did, but that's the worst one I ever seen. Carl Lewis?

Yeah, that's the worst national anthem ever. That lady, though, the minor league, she's, she's, she run her up. She teed her in the line, though, like. Because you could tell you could tell you could tell, she's probably like the choir director of church. She probably thinks she really could sing. And they just let her do that because she won't let nobody else do it. She's one of those old black ladies that she ain't let nobody else do nothing.

So it's like, all right, go ahead, let her do it. She thought she was killing that. I felt like y'all just didn't understand the octave she was trying to take us. She ain't understand it either. Carl Lewis said, I'm about to make up for it. Yo, I'm about to make up for it. Like, bro, you know you're still doing like. You're still supposed to be singing.

Is he a singer? It's like when the cheating husband gets called. I'm going to make up for it. And then he just keeps cheating. he gets caught again it's like all right man don't worry about it at this point

don't give me flowers stop cheating track athlete one of the greatest sprinters ever son and why was he singing it was that whole range

yeah you're trying to show he had it was that whole like it was a time where they were trying to get like big names athletes and stars to kind of like

do the anthem like oh he sings too a word okay let call do it in front of Michael Jordan in front of Michael Jordan. He didn't have to, like, audition. I mean, I'm sure he had to, like,

could get there early and do, like, a, you know. Sound check? Sound check. They ain't checked well enough. They ain't check it sound. I mean, he might have killed it in sound check. You know, the crowd might have, you know, made him nervous. Mike standing right there, you know,

might have just made him a little nervous. It's the players, like, trying out to laugh. That shit is great. Singing in front of Michael Jordan, I'd be nervous as fuck. If you don't know how to sing, yeah. Period. Michael Jordan's right there. I got to sing.

Yeah, but if you know how to sing. how to sing you're about to sing Carl Lewis don't know how to fucking say he should have never been out there man he should have never been out of funny if he sprinted out of there yeah

drop the mic he had that real high run to Carlos his arm with this fucking high yeah he was better oh yo that was crazy Mark can I get your rendition

of the national anthem just a couple lines nah and John legend voice don't do that man because see so y'all Democrat there.

If y'all do shit like that and then people think that I don't like John Legend I hate John L. do that, man. No, I'm singing John Legend voice. Oh, you know the runs would be crazy on that one. That National Anthropa

would probably take five minutes. How long would O'S say can you see be John Legend? And then he's going to give you a piano solo. You know he'll give you a piano solo at the bridge. Y'all ain't shit. I told you when I went to the auction for all the

art and everything and John Legend was there when I went with Chance. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. He sang in the middle of his speech. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying so hard not to laugh just thinking of y'all.

Like, you know, yeah, because y'all, it was a sensitive time and y'all hated when I was on my shit. But y'all don't give me enough crap. When John Legend sang for them firemen. No, I was right there with you. I brought it up again. That was the most, that was the dumbest shit. Like, it's okay for us to be like, why?

Like, there's no reason John Legend should be visiting a fireman. what was that the LA fires? Yeah. Why is John Legend at the Fire Station singing ordinary people to fire fighters? Like it's just like a- singing ordinary people to firemen.

It's like, well, we don't need that right now. Keeping the morale up. That's not going to do it. Ordinary. John, get out of here. It depends how you look at it though because I would laugh. They don't listen to John Legend.

They don't care about John Legend. Well, everybody listens to John Legend. No the fuck they do not. When I say, when I mean everybody listens to John Legend is you can't go throughout life without hearing John Legend. Everybody listens. The same way everybody listens to the Taylor's

firefighters. When John Legend walked up to that firehouse, they had to tell them who that was. I guarantee you none of them. No, I'm sure some of them knew who John Legend was. Not all of them, but he's pretty... Wasn't it a white firehouse? It wasn't like a bunch of white boys? They love John Legend. They support John Legend more to everybody.

White women love John Love Johnlet. I don't know white men love Johnlet. Not until they hurt ordinary people. They was like, ah, they did that. Oh, that's you? Okay. That's you? Okay. Yeah, we, I know that song. You just like imagine though coming out of the forest for those neighborhoods like coughing. You get a break.

Finally get some water like you're swapping with the next guy to go in and it's like, And then here, girl, I'm in love with you. We have a special treat for the firefighters today. Past the infatuation phase. Get the fuck out of it. I know smoke sometimes hurts. Get the fuck out. Nobody want to hear that shit, man.

It's okay to be like, yeah, that's just awkward. But why are we... So if he offered this thing at your wedding, you wouldn't allow him? At a wedding, John Legend makes sense. He makes one million percent sense at a wedding. Firehouse, no. Well, who would you have singing at the firehouse? At the firehouse?

You got to give us some shit to, like, get us ready to go out there and fucking save the community. Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, give us... You know what I mean? We're not going to take it. Like, yeah, like... Bon Jovi, maybe. Like, you know, give us that.

Okay, can you name somebody black? Somebody black? Yeah, give us, shit, give us Travis Scott. Them firefighters don't know. One Travis Scott fucking.

Shit. Wait, and we're talking about pitch corrective mics. Travis Scott, acapella in a park that's burning down. It's lit.

It's lit. And I'm like, oh, they got Travis. Think it would have been a hype. Like, you know, they bought Travis Scott

scoring my death? Yeah, like, come on, man. Give us somebody. You mean, give us somebody that's going to get us height.

Thien. Yeah. Dad at the firehouse go off. Feed at the firehouse goal. That's the lyrics on his crack a window. That'd be ironic. Crack a window at the firehouse. You just couldn't help getting that little jokey joke off, could you?

What's that, uh, what's the name that it's a fucking hit record. I want to say octane. I was not an anecdote. Antidote. That goes off at a fireball. That's very insensitive at a firehouse. For fire, man. Low Wayne would have went off at the firehouse.

Anybody other than little fucking John Legend. I'm going to put you out. John Legend is not Firehouse music. They don't listen to that in the Firehouse. If I'm in the Firehouse and John Legend, come on, I'm definitely changing the station. Like, if I work there, come on, we're not listening. What Pandora station are you putting on John Legend if you fight fires? Pandora Station is great.

I mean, you got to hear, we want to hear some up-tempo shit. You're the Firehouse. I feel like Bruno Mars Radio. I see why you say Bruno, but that's still a little. too sexy for like Bruno I'll catch a grenade for you Firehouse

grenade Yeah but when that I So when that song go off Then what? I think I want to marry you We're not playing at the firehouse 24 carry magic We're not 24 car of magic at the firehouse

Sliding out of home Niggas is definitely playing At the firehouse they're not fighting fires At the firehouse they chill and eating spaghetti Pet and the dog That's your porn brain 24-care Matt they're sliding down the poles to Bruno

on their off time. With glitter? Look what you think going on at the finals? They're not listening to that shit, man. I feel like we got mad firefighter listeners too. So shout out all our first responders. They listen to us in the firehouse.

Podcasts for sure. For sure. Definitely. Shout out to all the fireman, man, man. That's the job that I respect to the full. For sure. To see a building on fire, like. I'm going to go in that.

bitch. I got him. I got him. You want to run. I have a couple of FDNY shirt set up. I'm going to wear on Monday to record. Just so we can show. No, I support the fireman. I support the fire. FDN. Y. That's a fact. All that fucking like material they got to wear and running air is hot. I even had a hot flash, take all

that shit off. Scald and scalded, burnt. It's hot as fucking air. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's a job I respect. Two day work week though. Two day work week. Two day. All right.

Full benefits. Hey, boy, they'd fucking deserve it. Did they burn buildings? One million percent. Let them have it. Nah,

it was a sexy, like, firefighter I had a crush on one time and I really wanted to put like a cat. And me and my home girl was like, okay, if we put the cat in the tree and call him because I'm in his district,

will he come get the cat? He was off. Like, can I request what fireman I want to come get the cat out of the tree? He was off that day. he was on vacation he went off which cat you talk about hmm huh oh

ha ha funny don't ha ha funny when it was funny like I'm gonna put my coochy which cat put me a coochie in a tree it's like yeah which cat I'm stuck in a tree with no draws on

and like DeMaris get your ass dad they don't put it like get your ass down we have a firehouse close by like maybe mall should we could shoot some content and then mall could sing a national anthem outside, like, in the morning for them. Oh, no, he got to sing ordinary people. They will call the police song. You're mall singing to ordinary people outside the fire.

And there's nobody in. Like, they're not even outside. They out fighting a fire. They come back. Like, fuck is you doing my fucking property. Yo. There's a firehouse right across from Amar's school, and we have to stop there every time that we walk back from school. And they're great.

They let her fucking climb on the truck. everything. One time the alarm went off and both of us jumped. I was petrified. I was like, that is loud. Amar's screaming. I'm screaming.

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He was right about some things you said. I mean, I didn't have any, like, insight on that. I just fucking assumed knowing. both of those people and how they react to somebody feel the way. Right. For those that don't know, Stat Quo was on the company man's podcast,

and Top Dog did call in and said that Kendrick started to not really fuck with Game after he brought Drake to Compton, specifically because Drake was dissing Kendrick on there. And then Game did end up hitting Stat Quo about it and said,

hey man, I didn't know he felt that way. I didn't feel any type way when he did the power scene with 50 though I think those are are it's a difference those is yeah apples and bowling balls as far as a comparison but games that if I held grudges would LA rap even be what it is which is a fair point um but I feel like that's past now that game and Kendrick can fix that game and Kendrick yeah I mean I would think so I don't know if I don't know if game really cares to fix it though. I agree with it.

Like I think that, because, you know, obviously he just had the verses and he said, you know, he was doing the song with Drake. He said, yo, this is my nigga. I don't care who feel away about it. So, you know, I mean, I don't, you know, I just, I just think that, you know, game is just, you know, his side is his side. He's been very clear, very vocal about that. Again, this is just, I don't really don't know, the root of it.

Like, obviously, Kendrick feels that Drake was talking about him on the 100 video on the song. Yeah, I don't think Kendrick felt a way about, Drake didn't say anything crazy on the song, but he's clearly taking a shot because they were taking subliminals at each other for years at that point. I don't think Kendrick was, like, pissed in the house. Like, you know, Drake said that about, I think he was looking at game, like, okay, you brought him to where we live to say that? Yeah. I think he was way more mad at game. I don't think he gave a fuck about what Drake. He's like, that's hard for the course.

We've both been sending shots to. Kendra gets sent shots before that. I think he was just looking at game like, okay, you're bringing him, y'all could have shot the video anywhere. Y'all shot and shooting this shit fucking three blocks from my crib? Like, at some point, I think game and Kendrick going to have to have a conversation.

Well, they've had people found photos and. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about a conversation. Yeah. A conversation. I get it. That's what people would bring. We can stop doing the whole, you know, Compton. We both from Compton.

We love each other, love the hood. This obviously, maybe not from game side. I think Kendrick feels a way towards game. Yeah, that's what I mean, that's what I was saying. And that's what top confirmed. Like, yeah, Kendrick. Yeah, but game. But then you said game said what?

That he didn't feel no way when when Kendrick went and did power, which was a hilarious scene. I do hope Kendrick gets like into acting because that power scene when he played that Crackhead was the funniest shit ever. Okay, so that was game's response, right? Yeah. Obviously, them too, they need to have. Yeah.

Just them too, have a conversation, you know, because there is some underlying things that might manifest into something bigger if, you know. Yeah. Because when you let things like that just kind of go under the radar and just kind of act like there's not an issue or somebody doesn't feel away, there's things that happen where you may do something. that may trigger it to where now it's a real thing. And it's like, oh, shit, I didn't even know you felt away about any of that. So that's what I'm saying.

Them two, they need to have a conversation. And I've also been kind of like, we're not guilty of certain stuff like that, too, where game is saying, like, I didn't feel no way when you did the shit with 50. But you peeped it. Yeah, yeah. You always peeped the move. You always peep it. You may not speak on it.

And then now if you feel away, okay, well, then now I feel the way about it. I've been guilty that where I said I haven't felt away about something but there was something happens I'm like why didn't feel away then but now if you feel in this type of way now I'm like all right what do we do because then that turned into I didn't say nothing when you you see what I'm saying I didn't say nothing when you did human thing I think we all right right so there's plenty of shit I would have never bring up and nor like heartburn or care about until somebody's but if you bring some shit up right that's what I'm saying. So that's why I feel like they need to have. But then you have to ask yourself,

did you really not care? Because it's a little hypocritical. I'm saying me personally, I've done that. Yeah, no, same. But I'm saying there's certain things that you can, like, it would trigger like, yo, but I didn't, when you did that shit, I didn't, I didn't bother me. I didn't, I didn't, know we was on that. So yeah, it didn't bother me. But it's like, if what I just did bothered you, like, I could have felt the way about that. And that shit didn't mean nothing to me. So that's what I'm saying. Like them two, they need to have a conversation

because there's something there. Yeah, I mean, I know, I mean, do you know Top? Obviously, we talked about the first time I ever heard KDOT was on a game mix tape. But the Top in-game relationship goes back very far. So I think that's something that Top could probably get the two of them in a role.

It's enough mutuals to have a conversation. It was way too many mutuals. Because even how Kendrick got early on with the game mix tapes and a round game was because Topp already had a relationship with game and his whole crew. Right. You know, they could have a conversation. They need to though.

They need to. Yeah. It's way too many. Like we just talk at the top of show, mutuals. There's way too many mutuals. But and why I think their history goes so deep is we don't really know Top to call anyone to clear anything up.

Yeah. Because there's some shit that has been said about Kendrick on disc records. shit, I mean, everything we talked about the last how many years. Have we ever heard Top say a thing? Right. But then when it comes to a game thing, you're hitting Stack Quo on the company man podcast

to clear something up about game that nobody was really cared that much about to begin with. Until that. To me, shows how deep rooted that entire thing is because you didn't clear up a fucking thing with Kendrick, nor did we expect you to. Top has always stayed very quiet. Right. To me, that says more than what stat quo said,

the fact that Top even called him to clear that up on a podcast. Yeah, it says that there's some real feelings and emotions and tensions. I've had a lot of that shit. And we want to clear certain things up. We don't want things to be said. That's not, you know, because this situation can be very, it's a very tricky situation. It's very, you know. LA politics are, I'm never even going to try to understand.

Yeah. But they need to, though. Game and Kendrick definitely need to have a conversation about some things. And I think they probably will. So, yeah, we'll see. Do we have voicemails? Here, we have one. You've got mail.

What's good, y'all? This is Bill from NC. Hey, Bill. So I got a question. So I'm a big 80s and 90s R&B fan. Like, I love, you know, I love that time of music. Same. I was listening to Keith Sweat the other day.

And, you know, I love him. He's one of my favorite artists from that time. But I was thinking, like, I don't know if he would be as successful if he came out in the 2020s. he's not really the best vocalist that everybody kind of knows that but I think he was I think he came out in the right time so my question to you guys is

what are some artists that you think if they would have came out at a different time their career would be completely different whether good or bad so like for example I think if Larry June came out maybe like in a Wiz Khalifa time maybe like that 2010 era

I think he would be completely more, I think it would be completely more popular than he is now. So just kind of curious to see what you guys thought. I mean, that's easy. Any rapper from the 90s, late 90s that didn't really blow like that,

if they was to come out now, they would be fucking incredible. Oh, you're saying just because they could rap better than... Yeah. All right, well, I'll ask kind of a different question based off his, though. Because I've had these debates of like, what if Jay-Z came out in this time?

I think if you have someone that has that type of brain, they would adjust to the times. Because they're so smart, they would be a representation of a new sound the same way they did it at that point. Like Beans, late 90s, I don't think Beans is going to sound like Beans if you put Beans 21 years old in 2026. He's going to still have that same talent because he has, he's beaten. But I don't think he's going to go about it and be the lyrical beans that he is. Well, I mean, it's what is tricky because the business changed, the way we listen to music changed. Yeah. I'm just talking about what was just from a skill set.

Like the business, we can't really, you know, that's out of our control with technology and, you know, being able to listen to music on our phones. And then if I'm listening to music on my phone and Rory calls me, I'm no longer listening to the song. I might forget to go back to even listen to the song once I get off the phone. Like, is there so many different things pulling at our attention now? where we don't really kind of like receive the music the way we used to before. You put the music on. You know, that's what it was. I'm listening to music.

Now, like I said, you have your music playing and you get a text or something, pulls your attention away. Somebody hits the group chat sends a video. You click on the video. Now you're not listening. It's just so many different things. But from a skill set standpoint, I think that if any rapper was to come out now, with the skill set of a Beanie Siegel.

And we see his video on Instagram and he's in Philly rapping like that. Everybody's going to be like, yo, that dude is nice. Like it's going to be a unanimous. Like whether the songs connect to, you know, the consumer and the business of it, how they marketing him as an artist, that's a whole separate conversation.

But just from a skill set, if we were to hear a rapper right now coming out of Philly with Beanie's skill set, it will be a unanimous. That dude is nice. Nice. But that's what worked at that time. And again, we'll just use Jay and Beans as examples.

Jay came out the gate saying, I'm a hustle. Just so happens I know how to rap. Right. He's even said, truth be told, if lyrics sold lyrically, I beat Talibqqa. Like, he said, like, he's dumbed the shit down. I'm saying if those guys, because at the end of the day, of course, they love the music and love hip-hop. But they also were in the projects and were trying to make money. they're going to adjust to the sound

or what's going on at the moment where, yeah, of course, Beans would have maybe a freestyle in South Philly on camera with everybody that probably has felonies and unfortunately there probably be a RICO, but I think he would adjust to some of the sound that is now and dumb down some of his lyrics. Because he's trying to make some money,

not trying to be the best lyrical one. At that time, being the best lyrical person with Just Blaze behind you, made you a millionaire. Right. That doesn't happen anymore. And I don't think Beans is going to do it for the love of hip hop.

I think Beans is going to adjust to what works to make you some money. Bleak is another one. Bleak came out in 98. Yeah. Well, 96 technically. Like, you know who he was had to rap, like, with and around? Like, you move him a little more to the 2000s? Yeah.

Difference. I think, I think most deaf, Yassim Bey, if he comes out in this era, he's a bigger superstar than he was back then. I think people take to... Hell no. I think people take to alternative music and don't act like most of death doesn't have hits that he's singing, rapping. He adjusted.

He was not always that lyrical guy all the time. I think that is... You can be a superstar now... Well, not superstar, but you could be a star with that alternative sound in this era more than you could when he was competing with the guys

that we were just talking about. Who's doing it now? That is... Tyler. Nah, him and him and him and most is different though Miss Fat Booty now It wouldn't ring off like that They don't want to hear that shit bro

This this area is probably We're talking about that mind in this area I literally was just about to say I don't think if Cole and Kendrick came out right now I don't think they would have had the career Yeah nobody want to hear that shit Now I'm not disagreeing with y'all We just watch the double

I don't think y'all are that familiar with most catalog where even like a three stacks when you have love below you can see the range of the type of music they can make and I've seen what Tyler has done with that if you don't think those type of geniuses could move in this era you're crazy

I just don't think that people want to hear that music that type of music that they would make Tyler does arenas Tyler's been doing music for a long time though that's the thing that like he's doing arenas because of his cult fan base that he's built so if you come out fresh right now and have to garner new fans

what people are looking for and what's pushed, it wouldn't be as, it would be a harder. I can't tell you someone that's coming out in 2026 if they're a star already because there's only been six months. But I'm just using a younger person as an example that went with the alternative route that was not the typical route a rapper took where you're chasing a hit record and is selling just as much as the people that did that. Yeah, I think most could, I think most would be better received in a Tyler era than maybe. Maybe he was in his. It's easier to get to, like, most could have ran the internet. Instead of having to try to compete in a Virgin record store,

like, what? Yeah, I don't know. I don't think, I don't think, not most, not in this era. I just, I couldn't see it. I don't think, I don't think these, these, these consumers now even care to hear that type of shit, unless you already like, you came up in that sound, then yeah but like these young guys trying to listen to that now they're not trying to hear that type of shit

because i'm thinking younger consumers not us i'm thinking younger than us well his question was he said larry june in the whiz era so i was saying most in the tyler that's what i was getting at no i don't i don't know what most would do in 2026 because i don't know where this is going in the next few months i'm saying most in the tyler era yes that works okay larry in the whiz era is interesting only because wasn't that Dom's error too? Dom currency is where I feel like Larry would land. I just feel like it would have been too many, it would have been too much competition for Larry like with Dom.

Because with Dom was his sound. I agree. What he was doing then? I think what makes Larry so special now is that no one sounds like him. No one sounds like they're not making that. That's why he shines. And I think in that era, of course he'd still be great. But yeah, you have a lot of layback currency shit.

You're competing. Huh? He was, like, rapley back then. He was like a different shot. Yeah, yeah. I know Larry's was, but I'm saying. Definitely in the Bay. He's definitely hit his stride now.

But I'm willing to bet that him making music back then was because that was the sound coming out of the West Coast that was kind of like the cool guys underground, the doms, and, you know, those guys that was making that type of music where it was like, okay, yeah, we could all be on our own little just talk. We're not trying to be bar you now to be crazy nice. We're just talking shit. We just talking slick, talking fly shit, having a good time. I was right before Ross had taken MMG over to Atlantic.

I was at Deft Jam and they wanted to sign Dom under MMG. Before I went over, when they were trying to keep all of MMG. Before they did the meek, you know, they were still working pay workout. How do you think that would have went? It had been the worst decision Dom Kennedy would ever made. he flat out said respectfully Ross fuck what you wouldn't know yeah that would have been the worst decision you ever made

in hindsight yeah I hear that yeah without a doubt he doesn't fit that I guess I mean I was seeing what Ross was trying to do with that and Khalid was definitely coaching and helping at that time of what they were trying to do with MMG and they were trying to sign

Stali meke while they were trying to do a full range of pill Remember pill? They were trying to do a wide range. I was like, oh, Dom at that had my type of party. I was like, he'd be doing MMG a favor. Right. Signing over there.

I think we would have got a great Dom album that would have had the MMG touch, but in the long run, now that I know what Don was trying to do. No, Dom was, the way he did, he did his thing was perfect. I still listen to Dom shit. Don was one of my favorites. Yeah. Like, he didn't need to be around a conglomerate like that. It just didn't, it wasn't what he was about.

Yeah, I should Yellow Island is a classic Original Dom Kennedy is a classic Yeah Dom has at least Four debatable classic Mix-stakes

Yeah And Don was early on On selling When everyone was just putting The shit up on blogs Mm-hmm Don was like no Give me my fucking $7

bro Right Yeah I remember sitting there like Damn I gotta pay The way he did it was Was perfect And then I went to a

court one of his live shows Here at Irvin Plaza years ago. I saw my Highline. Packed that shit? Oh yeah. I was surprised at that. Like, I didn't think that New York really was like tapping with Dom like that. No, Dom's one of those. We need some new Dom Kennedy, man. You fuck with Dom Kennedy, baby, Dee? It's all right. I'll put you on. Okay. Not the way I tried to force Freddy Gives on you. I think if I played you some Dom, I think you would actually like, I'm sure I've heard Don Kennedy before him, but I can't

recite a song, but I'm sure I've heard him before. I was really into music during the fucking blogger days. It's just shit talks. Yeah, I'm sure I know a song or two, but I can't recite me from memory. It's really just cool, laid back West Coast music. Yeah, Dom was dope. Um, but yeah, any others off the top of y'all head of artists in different eras?

Oh yeah, Griseldon in the 90s, obviously, would have been way, but I think that kind of lands on your Larry Chupon. I mean, yeah, they would have ran into the Wu-Tang Shree. I'm not taking anything away from Grisenda at whatsoever. And yes, Conway, Benny, West, they would have thrived. Like they're just as good as rappers in the night.

But it would have been a lot of Wu-Tang shit, though. But I'm telling you why we love them so much just because it was so fucking refreshing. To hear it now. To hear that type of shit now. Yeah. Yeah, it goes both ways when it comes to that. Because that coming out of the 90s, the whole Wu-Tang wave, it would have been tough. You know, it would be one of the biggest superstars, music, streaming, antics. Old Dirty Bastard would be the greatest. streamer of all time.

And he makes amazing music. Yeah. You put ODB next to Black Boy Max, sky's the limit. I don't know if I put him next to Blackwoods. Let him stream by itself.

Let me just see what he'll be doing. I'm saying Black Boy Max makes people make music on the spot while he streams. Yeah, to watch ODB stream, that would have been. Like when he was hosting like MTV, like they went to the hood and was like, that was like, that was.

It's like must-see TV. And they just had him for a couple of hours. Watching him unfiltered on stream, you got to watch that. That MTV news shit when, yeah, when he was in Brooklyn by the river, oh, my God. Coco Jones in 2011. I feel like we'll be doing better than she is now. 2011. Okay.

All right, yeah, like, Neo was dominating. That was the Kerry Hilsen. Yeah, yeah. Kind of era. Carrie Hilsen, maybe Keisha, a little bit of Keisha? Yeah. Cassie. Cassie, yeah.

Cassie, yeah, that was a little, Cassie was a little before then, but yeah. But either way, traditional, like you had Neo leading everything, so traditional R&B was working at that time. Yeah. Oh, it was Keisha Cole, right? Yeah. Yeah.

I can see Coco back there. It had been a lot better. I feel like. GZ in this era. Hmm. GZ in this era as a 20 year old. What you mean? You think belly gang is Ging?

It's the DNA. Oh, no, so, okay, all right, yeah. Of course, he definitely has, like, Gizi influence for you. And I appreciate that because he's a ginger. Like, that makes us feel included. Yeah. Thank you.

I appreciate that. But I'm saying Gizi with his story. That in this era, that can only have that. Trappler Ross would lose his mind. if he had GZ's stories. Like, GZ, how he raps,

the music he makes. Who he's with? Like, that would... Who he's in a video with? Like, little baby, you'd have to move to the size. Like,

Gizi might be bigger in this era than he wasn't that. For sure. With the talent of the music he makes, that sound still works. Yeah. Giz might, the feds might make up some shit

and cut his rundown quicker in this era. Yeah. But cheesy would be... With the help of us. YouTubeers, yeah. Cheesy would be the fucking goat. For sure.

Yeah, we'll never see nothing like that again, though. I think it's over for that. Yeah. Which is fine. No, I'm cool with that. Totally fine with that. That's a tax thing. It's okay.

If we get rid of some of that. Yeah, yeah. This is cool. Let's get to Patreon. If you didn't see Maul was named in the name this black eye Con internet series. And we're going to do our own on Patreon.

The internet series is funny. It was just, it was a TikTok, right? No, it's a series, no. Oh, it is? I don't know. Well, we'll make it. We'll make it a series now.

So we're going to go to Patreon and I have a folder full of whites that Mall's going to try to name. I know some of the whites, though. I just hope you didn't go too white. I went pretty white. Oh, shit. All right. Yeah, I went pretty white.

Would me surprised, though. I know some whites. My mom might be in there. this folder. You never know the curveball. That could pop up. Oh, my God. And from my understanding,

you and DeMaris put together, yeah, Damaris got some amazing black icons. I got some black icons that I could throw in here to see if you know. I don't think I'm going to be that good at this. I think you're going to be way better

than Mall and zipper. You think so? Even with the one where Mall went right before MLK, which, you know, that's a natural progression. There was like black actors Like I know the actor.

I don't know his real fucking name, though. Yeah. So this will be interesting on Patreon. And we're going to throw Zip in the mix, too. Let's see the whites that Zip knows. All right. You guys ready to wrap it up? Ready to go.

Black a condom. Talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. We're on our way to Patreon. Zip! Where you at? Hey, Portlandia fans.

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