New Rory & MAL - Episode 530 | Goth's Plan

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

It’s just Rory & Mal today and after recapping the Usher Chris Brown Concert they get right into the biggest story in Hip Hop… Drake did a 20v1 live stream…  That convo leads them into discussing the What’s The Dirt video alleging Jay Z and Roc Nation is trying to take down Drake.  MySpace is thinking of making a comeback and a caller is questioning her marriage after holding her man down.  Everyone watch Obsession because we’ll be talking about that on Friday’s episode when Baby D gets back.  Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever Go to https://baskandlatherco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I got a lot to talk about as far as that goes. Ironically, I'm pussy. I don't want to go down that path. But we'll talk about the WMBA and all the immediate changes that are afoot. But let's start with how your weekend was. I heard you was moving around. the city saw you. Me?

I'm just making that. Oh, I didn't hear. I didn't hear that. I didn't go anywhere this weekend. I was chilling. It was a little hot. Yeah, it was nice. I went to the park, you know what I mean?

Like got my steps in. Okay. And I mean? Gathered some more allergies? No, no, no. It was cool. It wasn't, it wasn't cutting the grass out there. So everything was cool, man.

Got you. That was cool. That was it. I stayed at the crib, cleaned up, got rid of some stuff. You know, some little cleaning. That was all. Yeah.

I went to the Chris Brown and Usher show. How was it? on Saturday. Yeah, went to the Saturday show. It was great. It wasn't too, like, because I should was trying to sexy, you know, seen,

seen him, seen his ass crack, like a couple of years ago. I did not see, from where I was sitting. Did they take that out the show? Did they take that out? Yeah, I don't remember seeing that. All right, cool, cool, cool. I was paying attention.

That's why I stayed away from MetLife. I was like, I don't know, maybe this is for the ladies. This is, it made too much R&B, too much, too much male R&B. I respect what Chris Brown is,

is doing, man. That's a good hustler's mind state. Because I went to the Breezy Bowl. And I'm not saying that it's the Breezy Bowl part two. But what a great way for all your equipment that you've rented. And this ain't a shot of Chris because I go see the Breezy Bowl set a thousand times over. I don't care. Right.

But it was like the best of the Breezy Bowl. And now let's add in an icon like Usher. Right. It was incredible. Yeah. And I'm going to be the old guy on the lawn. Why I really, really wanted to go is I don't think I'll ever be able to see this again. Like when will I be able to go see music I like in a stadium of someone that's not.

already doing stadium. Hmm. Okay. That's interesting. I don't think that that's set up for the rest of my lifetime. I'm not saying there won't be a younger artist that can do a stadium, but the type of music I like, I'm not sure if they're not already doing stadiums, if I'll ever see somebody in a stadium again.

That's interesting. Yeah. None of the newer artists that I can think of, I... Don? Don. I can see Don getting to stadium level that. See, Don Toller doing the stadium tour. Yeah.

Absolutely. The music he makes. Yeah. The show he puts on. The show he puts on. Like I told you, you know, we saw him at Maine America that year. And essentially, he opened for Bad Bunny because he went on right before Bad Bunny. And then I was blown away.

I was like, wow. Yeah. Like he can absolutely hold his own on that type of stage in front of that many people, without a doubt. Yeah. Yeah, man. It was good. Usher is him. Oh, yeah.

No, but it's like, it's different. Pause when you see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw the Usher show when he was on tour. So, you know, I've seen some clips. Like you said, it's the best of. I just, I don't know, those versus talks. It was COVID.

We were all delirious. We didn't know what was going on. A lot of those versus talks, some of y'all need to keep Usher Raymond's name out of your fucking mouth. I mean, but we knew that, though. everything was a hit like a generation every single song he did

was a fucking generational hit yeah like he did not the show was fucking three hours yeah I don't know how Chris Brown remembers all the lyrics did songs he did like 30 songs that's always the most impressive thing

about that type of set is remembering the song yeah because it's a lot of music a lot of choreography a lot of stage production I have to be on this side yeah there's a lot to remember

like we just see the show but you don't realize how much really goes into it and then every night having to remember those cues. Like, it's impressive. Yeah. And I mean, of course, Usher ran through all the hits, hits, but you know, Chris Brown has 300 songs on streaming. He was doing, you know, like album cuts the show. I'm like, how fuck does he remember this shit? So it was an incredible show. It was cool

to watch JD watch the show. Yeah. Like, I was kind of a, I did take one video of JD taking a video when Confessions Part 2 came on. And he was just, you know, going through the whole. whole stadium. Like, that's got to be a crazy feeling that like, I started this on my MPC. Right. I wrote this. Like, this is crazy. Yeah. So it was cool to just watch him, watch the show. Like, that was just an idea in your head. And now it's in MetLife. Like, that's got to be a crazy time. After so many years, too. Yeah. Like, that's the part that's really impressive. After so many, that song has to be, what, 20 years old? Yeah, 2001. What was confession? It was the 11? Yeah. It might be. It might be 25.

Yeah, Jesus Christ Well, on Friday he brought out Jada Kiss and Fat Joe And I believe 50 I think he brought out 50 too 50? 50? They were saying that at the show But I didn't see any clips of it

So I wasn't sure if he came out But I did see Jada and Fat Joe clips I didn't see no clips of 50 performing Okay So Ashanti So Ashanti was there The night Yeah, that was the night I was there

Okay, yeah I didn't see no clips of 50 Performing though Yeah, meth and Mary was crazy Ashanti was great just usher and Ashanti singing duets was incredible Future just did March Madison Diff it was great

to do this little number and get out of here No he literally just and like sprinted it off the stage Yeah let me do this little number And get out of here Yeah Which was cool because they had like

In the riser was one of the stages And the stage would go up and down So like then Future just came out And you're at a bar Okay Like that shit was really fucking cool Like you're literally at a circle bar and it's a stage in the middle. Yeah, it's a stage in the middle.

That shit was cool. But I had a really good time. Shout out to Del that got me the tickets. And for all our pod listeners that were worried about my safety, Chris is not upset at me in the Maris. Why would he be? I feel like the Cuevo thing. The listeners were. That back to. Because then the back and forth between them kind of started based off comments about our post and like,

I think the fans held Demaris and I a little responsible for elevating that back and forth between the two of them. So, but no, it was cool, man. It was cool. It was a lot of bloods. There's a lot of bloods. It's a lot. I love everyone's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's all right. Chris is. Me and Del was at the loading dock. You know, we got there early. And, you know, it was like, you know, big and back, he going to get you. I'm like, who's getting us? Yeah. What's his name?

Sounds like a great guy. Yeah, yeah. But Chris was nothing but kind and hospitable. Yeah. Super cool. Kicked it was before the show. Like, yeah, it was a really, really good time. Yeah, that's what's up, man.

Shout out to Chris Brown. Shout out to Usher. And two of the icons. The after party in MetLife. I mean, I... Party in MetLife? Yeah, they did that for the Breezy Bowl, too, that I went to, like, in his green room. Oh, okay.

Got you, got you. I thought you meant, like, out in the... The pit. I'm about to say, what? Yeah. No, it was, it was cool. I didn't last too too long because it was like way too much hooka smoke in there. But, you know, it's like 50 women and like two guys that aren't Chris Brown. So you're just, you know, you're one of the girls at that point. You're part of the, part of the decor.

Pretty much. You're part of the decor. Yeah, pretty much. So, you know, good time. You might as well be a napkin. But Chris's accountant? Yeah, yeah, there's nothing more humbling than, like, being in a room like that with so many women, and you know that all of these women are here for maybe two guys.

Yeah. It's the most humblest thing in the world. Yeah. It will humble you. Like, you think that you got some type of, you know, charisma with you. And you're like, yeah, you know, look nice or smell good. Yeah. I got something going on with myself.

I got a job. You know what I mean? I drove here. I make money. Yeah. I got a nice house. Like, whatever. Not until you get in certain rooms, do you realize how invisible.

I didn't just rock MetLife for three hours. Yeah. Yeah, you don't realize how invisible you are sometimes. It was not me performing and run it up there. No, no, that wasn't me at all. It wasn't me at all. There's always the girl that is trying not to look like they're the groupie. Maybe they're the plus one of their friends, the groupie.

And they want to make it very clear that they're not. Yeah, we're not here for this. We're just here. Yeah. And they'll talk to you just as part of their plan for, you know, perception. It looks like. It looks good. I hate these things.

And then Chris comes out of the green room and it's like, wait, I thought. No. That's not the energy. No, no. I thought you didn't care about celebrities. They don't care about this. Whatever. It's passe.

It's another day than my life. Fun though. Yeah. It was a great, great time. That's what's up, man. He was outside. You was outside. See, not me.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I didn't go to the after party. Like after after point. Yeah. I don't understand how they do that. Like, how do you do three? hours, do the green room after party, and then go to the city and do, like, your official after party. I have no idea how you possibly do that.

I mean, you know, just get out there and just listen to all the people, tell you how great you are and, you know, shake some hands, hugs, kisses, and pictures, videos, and then, you know, go to your, back to your suite in Manhattan and go to bed. Yeah. Salute to Usher's head of security, who is a listener of the show. Dope, man. Won't say his name, but he's like, man, y'all, y'all shis. should have Raymond on. I said, uh, okay. You think, you think?

You want to set that up for it? Yeah, we got to call JD, man. Let's set that up. Yeah. I think usher would come on the show. He would. I think he would. I mean, he doesn't need the promotion. No, no, no. It was clearly sold out. Yeah, yeah. They don't need, they don't need any press, any promo. Like, it would be just a talk shit, though.

Yeah. But now, good time. Definitely, uh, suggest going to the usher. It's Chris, right? It's worth the money. Like, and there's nothing but women. And they're all like in their... How many more cities do they have on the tour? That's a good question. I'm not sure. I would probably like to catch that. Seeing that show in London with London women?

Yeah. That wouldn't even be fair. A great time. Because of the accents, you know? No, of course. Of course. Yeah. It's just the accent.

30 more shows? Oh, okay, yeah. I'll look and see what cities there in. Oh, yeah. It's all the way through December. Call JD, have them give me some tickets. Listen, Atlanta November Oh my God

November 7th, 8th, 10th, and 11th You think I won't be there? I think we actually have to shoot down there Yeah, yeah, no, we gotta go that way Weird how those dates are on that. It's the same week we gotta be there. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Damn, I got me, I guess we got it.

Sponsor by Boosmo? We have to now. It's for the show. We haven't done a good Atlanta trip in a while, man. Yeah. I miss our extended Atlanta trips. Like, we didn't need to be here too more. No, we got one coming up in November.

Well, yeah, of course. Come on, what are you talking about, boo? Stop back in like. And we got to make the rounds as well. We got to make sure everybody's good, checking them night, but yeah. No, that goes. Leftovers from Invest Fest. You never know.

Come on, man. How come we're never invited to Invest Fest? I don't know. And who invites the people? I don't know. I have no idea. Is it an invite thing, or can you just like buy a ticket and go? Well, you can definitely buy tickets and invest fest.

to invest in yourself. Yeah, well, you go there and listen to the, you know, people speak. You can buy your own ticket. Now, the private party and things like that, that's, I'm assuming it's invite only. Gotcha. But we're probably not cool enough to get invited to those things. I want to go to network. Yeah, you got to be cooler.

I guess that's true. Yeah. I invest in things. Yeah, but you got it. But you're not cool. A lot of people invest in things. They're just not cool. So you got to be cool and invest in things.

I could get a suit. Yeah, I could do it. You look good in the suit. Yeah. Come on, man. We could stream it. Yeah. Shout out to Invest Festo.

Shout out to the guys. Oh, for sure. No, it looked like a great event. Yeah, man. But anyways, we are back. I wish with what we're about to talk about, I wish I had a different opinion. What are we about to talk about? Oh, yes.

Yes, the timeline was in a tinzy, a frenzy, a Benzie. all the time. I wish. Yeah, go ahead, bro. I'm going to shut the fuck up. For the sake of discourse, I wish yeah.

I was like outraged and like melting down the way the timeline is just so we could have some back and board this like I really wish I wish I actually felt that way. Yeah, no you do.

I wish I even had it in me to pretend like I do just again for discourse on the podcast. Yeah. But I don't care. Right. Drake

Drake did a stream with steak Yes the nine year anniversary of steak Yes With the Nelp boys Which are known to platform Powerful Juice So it all made sense In the long run

And Drake did a 20V1 challenge For those that don't know There's a huge series on the internet With balloons And girls talk to guys What they do like and don't like And then they pick a person Cool series I like that

You've seen it It's great very entertaining maybe another tool of the CIA but either way it's entertaining um so drake went and did his own version of that with a bunch of women and the timeline melted down as if this was the worst thing to happen to the culture in the 50 years that we've loved hip up yeah why are y'all melting down i don't know man i don't know i don't know No, man. I just think that, you know, it's, it's, it's very interesting that no matter what Drake seems to do say, you know, it's, it's just seems like this. And again, the internet is not

a real place. We, we know that it's been proven time and time again. More people love Drake than they hate Drake. It's just very interesting to see people, the things that people get upset about whenever Drake decides to do something. But what were people expecting them to do on the stream. Were they expecting him to give a PowerPoint presentation on... It was in Vest V weekend. Oh, okay. Yeah, I just don't know.

Like, people are mad that he did a 20V1. They're saying that he's almost 40 years old. He should be married and he should be, like, settled down. And he shouldn't be, you know, around so many women. I just don't understand that mindset at all. I don't understand what it is to be upset about a guy being around women. Like, and he's an entertainer. He's one of the most famous guys on the planet.

one of the greatest recording artists of his generation, and people upset that he's speed dating on stream. I just don't understand that. How am I people upset at that? Like, these and I were talking off camera. I understand sometimes when there's outrage of when maybe he'll do something with Aidan Ross or Bobby Altsoff or even the Nug Boys for that minute. I don't know much about the Nug Boys.

The only thing I've ever watched there is when they had Net and Yahoo on. which was insane when they were handled by Israel. But I can see where some people would be upset about that for their own political views that maybe Aiden Ross has expressed to the Nelke Boys or whatever. But that's not what everyone was outraged on the timeline about. They're just really upset that he did 21st 1 in a non-serious way. Yeah, like it wasn't even like a real. It's not like he was really on there looking and searching for love.

It was for entertainment purposes. it was, you know, for him to have fun and do a stream on for stake. Like, I just don't understand why people, you know what it is? I think that people are just not used to somebody as popular, as successful. And just being as maybe accessible. Drake is, has made himself the most accessible superstar I think we've ever seen. I don't, um. Which I, there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with these adapting with the times.

And I think you can be like a weekend and only pop out when you're putting something out where a fucking mask don't speak. Or you can be Drake. Like it's really however you are comfortable. But Drake is accessible. He's on the internet constantly. I mean, he'll clearly he'll DM anyone. Like he's accessible. You can go out and see Drake way easier than you probably could any celebrity.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. No, there's nothing. Of course there's nothing wrong with that. I think it just speaks to his personality. He's a very, Drake, Drake is, if you've ever had the opportunity to meet him, he's a very, for who he is and is obviously the stature of his star power, he's a very humble guy, very welcoming, very hospitable, a gentleman. I just don't know why that makes other people uncomfortable. Actually, I do know. There is a major, major part of the internet and, you know, social media that capitalizes and monetizes off of,

I guess hating, being upset, being bothered by whether it's Drake, whether it's, you know, Chris Brown, Rion, any of this, Beyonce, JZ, like no matter who it is, there is monetization in hating and being upset and expressing disdain for something that, you know, an artist of the caliber of a Drake, whatever he does. I've seen somebody say, oh, you know, he only gave away however amount of dollars. and I'm just like, Drake could have gone on stream

and giving away $200 million and somebody would have said I thought there was bees on the table. How come he didn't give away $600 million? Like it's almost like no matter what he does, no matter what he says, people have learned that, and we saw it through the whole, you know, battle,

that people stand to gain a lot of money if you stand on this side of saying this guy is fake. This guy is, he's, you know, he's, now he's trying to pander

to women to prove that, you know, he doesn't like little girls and things. I'm seeing all of this online and I'm just like, what? Like, I just, it's like,

it's the craziest thing to see. But I also understand it because we've seen people literally pay mortgages on creating these channels and creating the platforms that are designed to, to hate

anything that he does, that he says, that he puts out, that he wears, that he, people, he aligns himself with, it doesn't matter. As long as I'm on the side of he's a terrible, horrible person, he's pandering to women. I just don't, but I do get it because you can make money doing that. So you think maybe some of the men are jealous of the girlies. Like they wanted stronger drinks and stronger men.

Well, don't get it twisted. A lot of these people wish that they could go to stronger drinks and stronger men. No, not that, but that they were invited, that they are acknowledged, that they are, you know, I guess, validated in some way by anything that they say about Drake, whether it's him responding or commenting on a post, whether it's him, you know, mentioning somebody on stream. whether it's mentioning somebody in the song, like a lot of people are looking for that. Yeah, and I mean, I think it goes both ways. People have also made it their identity on the other side as well to hate on anything Kendrick does.

It's just that Drake gives more ammo because he is more accessible and does things often that you can comment on. Yeah. Whereas Kendrick is more of a mystique and there's theories and, like, you know, he still hasn't spoken since 2024. So there's both sides to it. Just Drake gives more ammo. And as somebody that for the last,

how many years has brought up on podcast that they would like to see Drake's content mature a bit. And I've been one of those people. And while I do think there is some of that on Iceman, I do think he did discuss some of the things that I've wondered as a fan in his maturing and aging. But I also, at this point, I'm going to listen to the guy that is telling me who he is.

Yeah. Like that's where it's, I guess, as a former person that wanted that from Drake, I get it. But I also now don't get why you would want somebody. So you wanted to pretend? Like, do you want to get a fake wife and, or like, get back with his baby mother and have a nuclear family and not fuck horse? Mm-hmm. Like, he's been very honest in saying, I'm probably not.

going to settle down. Like I'm still, this is what I do. Right. Going to therapy, it's not going to work for me. Like, this is just the path I've chosen. And some of that comes with not having this Jay-Z Beyonce relationship that everybody wants. Right. So yeah, like, what more do you want from Drake other than to be himself? Now, you can disagree and be like, hey, I don't want to be 40 doing that. Then don't do it. But Drake has always done skits. He's done streams. He's told y'all, I'm not settling down. At this point, I can't criticize someone for telling me exactly who they are and doing it. So what the fuck?

What do y'all want from them? Yeah. If you say that's not for me, cool. I respect it. That's fine. The one thing that I did love about the stream was when he was on a 20V1. I can't remember the young lady's name, but she was the heavyset girl. Yes, the rapper from Detroit.

Did you see how Drake handled that? Now, let's just be honest here. We're on a 20V1. Okay. I don't know where we're going with this. Damaris isn't here. I'm one of the biggest recording artists in the world, right? And I don't know the women that are coming out.

My boys set this up. They kind of vetted the women that would be here, right? And out walks a heavyset woman. Most guys, most rappers would, you know, you would feel or see an expression from them as kind of like, like, come on, man. Like, why you're? but in that moment Drake was like first of all he knew who she was he knew her music

like for somebody of his stature to be that much of just like a even kill cool like he talked to her just on a very human level he didn't you know give any kind of you know notion that he wasn't he wasn't a track no I'm just saying he didn't give any kind of notion that he wasn't attracted to her, that she wasn't his type. He may have been a shirt. He may have. But this is what I'm saying. Most guys in that...

We've seen Drake with big girls? Right, but most guys in that situation, we would have saw something where it's like, nah, he's not feeling shorty. It wasn't even that type of interaction. It was a very cool, very like, you know, dope interaction that he had with her on just a human level.

Fuck me being Drake and, you know, whatever, whatever. It was a very human. And to me, that says a lot about the type of guy he is. In that moment, he's able to be like, yo, listen, this, everything is, it's all love here. Everything is cool. And it's not about, you know, who's coming out, how she looks. She's, she's, she's a heavyset girl. It doesn't even matter. Like, I know who this is. Like, I know your music. Yeah. I thought that that was a very, very dope moment. And again, that speaks to the type of person that he is, like, I want to sit down with people and let them understand that while I am who I am,

I'm still human. I'm still a very chill guy, very cool guy, very laid back. Everybody is welcome. If I welcome you in, you're welcome to all of the things that come with being around me. Like, to me, that is part of what the stream is showing his personality on a very human level. Fuck the superstar shit. Like, we all know that part. But it's like, I'm still just a cool guy that enjoys being around my friends and being around women and having a good time.

To me, I thought that was dope. I don't know what people were looking for from the stream, however much money they thought he was supposed to give away and all these. I don't care about any of that. On a personality level, just being able to see who he is and him inviting you into his world and showing you more of the things that he does. I thought it was dope. Yeah. Again, coming in today, I knew no matter how we cover this, this is going to get a clip. Probably not this part.

They'll probably just clip one. Yeah. There's going to be no right way for anyone on the internet on how react reacts is. I just, I simply just don't care. And I don't know that makes me part of the problem, but I do not care that Drake is on stream doing 20V1. I laughed at it and then I moved on my life. And I, what is he supposed to do? Is he supposed to fight?

Is he supposed to like, what is, like, what is? I just don't understand what are people, what do they, it's like, it's like no matter what. it's not enough. No matter what he does, no matter what he says, no matter it's just not and it's always going to be. And again, like I said, it's a people are able to monetize that, Rory. They're able to make money off of, you know, just being a contrarian to anything Drake says or does. There's monetization in it. So I understand it. I understand the personalities and the space and the platforms that are created off of solely hating anything. Drake says and does. I get it. I understand. Everybody's here to pay bills. Everybody's here to make a

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So when I got in the car, I was in a little bit of traffic, opened the timeline. And I was like, why is everyone outraged that Drake is doing a stream with Joyner Lucas? And I was like, I mean, that's hip hop, right? Oh, you thought it was joining? I swear to God, I feel like. Like, that's an odd move.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, maybe, I don't know, Drake's picking a lot of flack, like, you know, Joyner's a great lyricist. Like, maybe he's showing, you know, his versatility. Yeah. Maybe it's different perspectives. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20 v1 and like flirting in first dates or something like I thought maybe he was taking us that route yeah I was not aware that it was Jordan Lucas Jordan Lucas for an entire car ride I was like that's such a weird move yeah yeah Lucas yeah you thought Drake was streaming with joiner Lucas that wasn't a bit that I put yeah I wasn't making a joke on our group chat I was like it's a odd move because again I'm like I'm driving I'm not looking at everything I just see that at If I was to see that on the timeline, I would definitely be ready to click on that, though. No, you have to understand. It also had like lean of the plug in there as well. It's like, what a group. It's just like such a random just room of people. Like, okay, I guess this is what

the stream is supposed to be. The most random personalities we can get in the room. Yeah. Let's put them all in a room with the biggest star on the planet right. Like maybe Joyner is going to do the perspective from the balloon. Like what it's like to be popped? Like I was like, where is he taken? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to say, see it though. I want to see Jordan Lucas on the stream with Drake if that were to happen. I would definitely watch something like that. And yes, it was Jordan Lucas. So my apologies to the beautiful, beautiful streamer Jordan Lucas. And from my understanding, she's like a super big Drake fan. And that was like a big moment. She has, she has been wanting to meet Drake. Yeah. Yeah. Again, even that's a cool

thing, right? Like Drake understands that. He sees that. He's like, okay. Or whoever put it together, they understand that. Like, okay, let's get her out here. Let's make. Make a good. this a moment and let's stream it like to me those things are cool why not do you think he will cash in the hall pass that lena lena 22 miss mrs 22 gave him it was signed by adam i think he will why not listen i'm not here to judge listen you attract it to women you obviously enjoy having sex with beautiful women. This is what she does. This is what she does.

It's one plus one equals too. Yeah, this is like if you play basketball and you get a chance to fucking play Jordan one-on-one. Same thing. Yeah, it's the same thing. I wasn't aware that Lena was the goat in that bar. I have not seen her work. Yeah.

Like, I mean, why wouldn't you? Yeah, why wouldn't you? Yeah, absolutely. That was a good move. My husband is okay with it. He understands it. He's allowing it, right? Mm-hmm.

No, he's signed the hall pass. Yeah. So there's no. there's nothing wrong here with two consenting adults and you know she enjoys having sex she's she's obviously great at what she does yes um yeah why not aside from lina and adam's relationship because obviously they've done the porn thing and it was the whole thing when she slept with the other guy that's where just i i can't do the whole past thing because you're going to be able to fuck drake before i'm able to fuck riana like it's just it's not it's not it's not it's

Unfaithal. Hall passes are so lopsided for men and women that it's like... Yeah. You could go outside and run into Drake and fuck them. Right. I'm not... Anyone on my whole pass... It's just like not going to happen.

So why am I putting myself in this position? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, it's equal, babe. You get your... No, I'm not going to run into them. My whole pass is not... I can't cash mines in at the store I want to go to. Yeah. No.

Everyone was there for Chris Brown. Not for me. I can't use my whole pass. Your whole pass is no good here. Your money's no good here. your money your money's no good here yeah I feel you though I mean I understand it but you know I think that he why why wouldn't he why not saying he's going to I can't speak to that I don't know but why wouldn't he

he's attractive not that I think Drake cares for say but it would become a spectacle for sure like there would be an entire no jumper episode with Adam and Leon are like breaking down the entire thing and I just don't know if you're not in that world okay you're not understanding I think if he does do it it's an NDA 100 they have shit to lose they can't make content out of it yeah like I think if he does like if he does decide like yeah I'll bang her yeah I think it's an NDA though I don't think that he would allow

her to go on her platform and speak about it and I don't I don't see that that I don't see but I don't know after you bark at a goth girl do you really care if lena the plug talks about your fuck style yeah but barking at a got a goth girl is you know that's part of it that's what you're supposed to do the goth girls he's supposed to bark at it when you see him like that's the language they speak that's their vernacular what else do you do to a goth listen to i'm glad drake came clean and apologize to speedy so i i show speed i'm saying it right yeah speed yeah yeah yeah because he did I remember seeing that comment of like, you got to start, stop barking at women, don't.

Yeah. This man, look at you up there just barking at a goth. To be fair, she requested it. And who is he just saying? Yeah, like, it's not like she walked out and he just started barking. Like, no, she asked him like, would he bark for her and he barked? If you bark at a girl on stream, I feel like it's fair game for anyone to clown you for doing it. That's whatever.

I'm not here to defend the barking. What I will say is some of y'all that were killing Drake, y'all were in. moan rooms on Clubhouse in 2020. Remember that? So some of you, I don't know if I really want to hear your judgments of a bark. My, not my game. I'm not really barking at women. Even if you're on a date and she asked you to bark?

I don't think. If Pinky 2 would have asked me to bark, I would have barked. I'm just. Why not? I don't have the confidence of a cue dog. Like, I've seen the cues get that off and it worked perfectly. Yeah, but nobody's asking them to do that. Some are.

Well, I've seen, I've seen plenty of women go up to cues, you're barking me. Women love cues. Yeah. I'm just, what's wrong with that if it's requested? I think it's weird if it's not requested and you do it. But if it is, if a woman is asking you to, like, would you bark for me? Yeah. And I've never, like, and I'm not about to practice now.

It was for all the dogs. I'm a dog on my mutt. It was for all the dogs. Yeah. He has confidence, though, because, like, the first time I'm barking, it, can't be on stream. Because I don't know what, I don't know what my bark is like.

Like, what if I have a basely bark and like not, yeah, because you never, not a boomer bark. You don't practice bark. That's what I'm saying. Like,

I don't know what would come out. Like, what, what, what breed would you be? Like, like, like,

of course I'd love to say, I'm a pit, but maybe I'm a golden doodle. Like, I don't know. I don't know. I've never, I don't know.

And if golden doodle comes out, like, I don't know if I can live that down. There's no. Yeah, you can't. A woman can't unhear you bark like a golden doodle. Like, she can't unhear that. And then if she's into it, like, now I'm thinking like, what does she think of me?

Right. If she's into my golden doodle bark. Like, you're definitely going to step on my balls with your high heels. You're a golden doodle. Like, you know, nobody's scared of a golden doodle. Like, you know what I mean? It's a very welcoming dog. Yeah.

It's a very safe dog. Safe breed. But yeah, listen, man, if you were offended by that, cool, whatever. You have every right to have an opinion. and I just don't, I guess I just don't care to meltdown that a rapper did that. He kept it on brand. He wiped the goth girl, right? Yeah, which he talked with Bobby about.

Yeah, he said he was looking for a big, big boob goth girl. Was she a true goth or was that, like, did they paint their white? No, she's a true goth. Okay. She's a streamer. She's, she does like, you know, only fan stuff and things like that. Yeah, she's a gothie. Yeah.

Goths plan. So a gods plan. It's goths. plan. What do you want me to do? I mean, listen, everyone's wondering what the next sound Drake is going to do. You did the dance R&B rap trilogy. Like, are we going full slip-knot?

Why not? Like, are we hot topic? Try it. Merch? Like, I'm sure he could pull it off. Give a pinky chew and her whole team and kind of like... I could see him with like the black hair like comb over, like over the eye. 100%. Get him a trench coat. Well, he's sensitive times. I mean, just put him with some Rick Owens. Now it's trendy.

Yeah, come on. Let's put him with some Rick and get the comb over going. It's like school shooter chic. Yeah, yeah. Sheik, you know how it goes. I can't say that. Rest in peace to everyone that is affected by mass shootings and school shootings.

Yes, we don't condone it at all. But yeah, again, of course I predicted anything Drake does is going to be some type of reaction. But I didn't know people were going to be melting down. And not the Twitter that you're talking about that, you know, has made it their identity, monetizes anytime they say something like it's like people like I know are melting down yeah you gosh you don't care like you don't care like I know you don't care that you don't care but you understand it it's it's you're able to make money off of doing that type of us I mean listen every single content creator made money off that battle and is continuing to because everything

is so heightened anytime Kendrick or Drake sneezes like everyone does I'm whether they believe or not, I'm just happy it's not our identity. Some people it may be that only see clips of you yelling and not the fact that we put out four episodes a week where, you know, that's 5% of the content if something's going on with Drake. But I don't know. I just don't care that much. I really don't.

Listen, I love that Drake. He don't care either, obviously. He's doing what the fuck he want to do. He understands people are mad about it. He's living his happy little life he's created for himself. He's having fun, man. I like that type of shit. That's how you're supposed to do it.

I don't want to talk to none of y'all in media. I don't want to stream on any. I'm going to stream myself. Do my own 20V1. Have my own team around me. It makes people, it keeps, it makes people upset that they don't have access to them. They can't sit in front of him. Why, he didn't come on the stream with this person.

You should come on my stream. He should do this pod. He should do that pod. Do this interview. No, should he? Or can he do what the fuck he wants to do? Yeah. What, uh, it wasn't fuck Mary Kill.

it was a wife wife pipe and and home home girl or something wife pipe bestie i think okay now if if mall was up there how would you go about that arrangement with the three of them uh because drake dragg went with wifing the goth girl yeah fucking lena and then jordan was the best yeah bless you uh i would wife you talk about those three women those those those three yes again i'm i don't know what i'm and never kicked it with just aesthetically. I would wife Jordan. My bestie would be Pinky Chew,

goth girl, and I would pipe Lena. Okay. All right. That's what she does. I'm helping her, you know. I'm with you on wife and Jordan. She's beautiful.

That is a really cool personality. I'm going to fuck the goths, man. Why? Because I'd want to make Lena my home girl because I think Lena has so much access to so many women, it'd be my invest fest to be homeboys with Lena with the amount of women she could put me onto. Like you ever have the home girl that has a thousand bad friends

and like she puts in a good word, it makes you skip so many steps. Lena has the home girl, listen, man, you're doing numbers in LA. You ever have a got a goth bestie? I have not, no. Oh, man. When you tap into that comment,

Con market right there. You never seen it. I don't know. I'm going to go out on limb and assume with no context that most goth women are by. So I still feel like if I go with the goth girl

to fuck, like that I can still get the rest of Comic-Con if she's into it. Yeah, but I could too. If that's my bestie. True. Yeah. She's still around. She's hanging out. She's coming to the crib. She, you know, bringing the friends all of that. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I just, I mean, again, I have not seen Lena's work, but she seems like a cool, funny person. Also, I don't know. I mean, that's a happy home. I'd feel weird.

Yeah, but she has a whole pass. It doesn't say mall on it. There's a pass. It would, though. If that was me, it would. That's what I'm saying, yeah. I'd hit that. I'll pipe that for sure. Oh, yeah. I wonder if that guy thing, uh, if it's not just a spectacle. What if that's the new power couple? What if we get Drake's 444, but 666? 666. He's the 6 God. Finally, we got what all you guys want. We're going to get the mature Drake album after he wipes the gotth girl, 666. He's the six God, so it makes his own brand.

666. I like it. I can see it happening. You laughing, but I can see the other thing. Oh, Kill Drizzy. Yeah. Drizzi is dead. Drizzi is dead.

Never know, man. It could work. I see it happening. No, but seriously, now that I think about it, the Drake, like, emo alternative rock album with all features, like Him Blink 182, Google Dolls, Yo. Green Day.

Jay Lincoln Park is classic. That would go crazy. Yeah. Why not? Who's the group, Third Eye Blind? Who's the ones that I love you so much? And she smiles. Bring those guys back.

Green Day? That wasn't Green Day. I forgot. When she smiles. Three doors down or some shit. Oh. When she smiles. TRO, classic.

Oh, God. Just that whole era of alternative rock. Oh. If there's any artist that can get those bands together to do an album, it is straight. Like, if we want to say that he's a culture vulture that leaches off every single sound, like, just go all the way with it now. Yeah. Let's go to every song. Lean into it.

Let's go. Let's get rock and roll back on the charts, maybe. Yeah. That's what it. If there's anybody that is able to pull that off and get those artists in the studio like Quincy did for We Are the World, it's Drake. Oh, I mean, Drake would easily smoke those alternative, Robb. Yeah. What's, um, well, the joint with Yebba on, um, some sexy songs for you isn't alternative rock per se, but hearing him on that type of record, I know he could smoke.

Yeah. That, that'd be great, man. If he put out like a little EP, that would be fucking amazing. I'm only here for, I don't care who. guy. I mean, again, I'm from a different era. I don't care who's dating who, who's sleeping with who. That was never a thought process of mine when I was listening to Biggie, when I was listening to Pock, early Jay. Like, I didn't care. I didn't, that wasn't a talking point amongst, like, in the barbershop, like, who guys were sleeping with. It just wasn't a thing. Well, I mean, I was

too young. Was it not like a rumor of, like, Biggie and Lil Kim and Faith and that love triangle? Obviously, now everyone knows that. Yeah, I mean, but that's because. time was it? Because I was, but that's because he put it out there. The artist would say it and would kind of like. But it was a conversation. Yeah,

but it was on, it was a conversation, but it wasn't like a long, outstanding, ongoing thing. It was like, you talked about it when the artist mentioned it.

If you saw them in a video or something together, like if they was in a magazine, how, you know, Faith and Big was in the magazine in the back of the car. Yeah.

Yeah, you talked about it. When Charlie Baltimore popped up in the video, So you spoke about it, but it wasn't like, if away from that, those weren't talking points. Like, that wasn't a thing that people cared about. Also, this, this era of like relationships helping rappers, that wasn't a thing then. Because, like, being a rapper in a relationship was like an oxymoron. Even if you were in a relationship, you hit it.

Like, I always joke, the first episode of love and hip-hop when Emily came on and said, I've been dating fabulous for 10 years. I was like, what the? Fab has been in a relationship for 10 years. Right. It was part of the marketing. Like you had to be the single, sages and just to some degree womanizing. That was the thing.

So there probably wasn't room for that because there really was no relationships that we really looked at. Like then Jay-Z and Beyonce, Naz-Kalise. Like then it started to move that way. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, it was always like,

are they actually a thug or not? That was the gossip I remember. It's just now. It's too, it's too, it's too much. access. I think there's too much accessibility. And then now with the fact that you can now make money off of talking about these things and doing that, now it's, you get paid for conversations. You know what I mean? The longer you talk, the more money you make with streamers, things like that. They're just going on. It's like, but I just think at some point,

you just have to still remember like, bro, we're supposed to be here to just enjoy the art from this person. Like, I don't really care about, you know, who they're dating. and who I just, that never really did. What does the music sound like? Yeah. And I mean, it's a bit hypocritical on my end because obviously I've talked about that stuff. But at the end of the day, I care more about the music than anything else. I'll talk about it and have fun and laugh.

Yeah, no, for sure. I don't, that doesn't consume my brain to where I'm making think pieces. And I'm like, well, this person should really think about settling down. It's like, what? Your parents been settled down. It's kind of crazy when you say it out loud. Yeah, like your parents have been settled. down for years and they're not happy. Like, so that's what you think that this man here should do to.

He should settle down and not be happy and be miserable. Give me the thing piece on your parents' relationship. Yeah, like, give me the thing piece on dinner at your house with your parents are going. Who your dad barking at? Yeah, like, I don't care. Like, come on, man. I think we just got to get back to just enjoying what this thing really is about. And it's about the art of it all, the music. You know what I mean? Like things like that. We start to get into a weird space of, you know, just wanting to talk about too many personal spaces in people's lives. I mean, well, the perfect storm happened with artists where it used to be mystique. Now they're chronically online.

So much happens every single day. Now everyone also can comment. Whereas before there was some mystique, there was like extras, one magazine. And you just talked about it amongst your circle. Now everyone can comment. Everyone can get paid. All the artists are giving you ammo every day because they're chronically online. And it's the perfect storm of that.

Yeah. It's not, I don't think it's anyone's in particular fault in that regard, but it's, yeah, it's set up for this to be the inevitable. So I mean, I get why it happens, but that was always more I felt like a movie star thing than it was a rapper thing. Yeah. Dating? Yeah, that was always like, yeah, that was movie star shit.

Like I remember around dinner time, my mom watching extra, like, she would watch that shit. And it was always like actors and actresses, Bernie Spears melting down, Perez Hilton's covering everything. Like, it was never really a rapper thing. But then I guess when it becomes the biggest genre in the worlds, that's the natural progression as well. And then TMZ has to comment now. And then they're now dating other celebrities and things like that. Then the Kardashians took hip hop under their wing. Yeah.

They did. I know that sounds insane. They took hip pop under their wing and put it into gossip. They definitely have a hand in that. For sure. Jay Z is to blame for a lot of this too. Hell yeah. Like Jay and B's relationship was definitely the first, you know, I guess,

quote unquote, street rapper. Tabloid. Cross his old married's pop star and pop celebrity and now they marry family. Like that definitely kind of helped propel that whole movement. And they leaned into it with dangerously in love. them Bonnie and Clyde, like, yeah. In a smart way, they leaned into it. Yeah.

And I'm sure organically, too, a few people that love each other are going to make their records. It's part of it, yeah. Well, yeah, they definitely leaned into that entire thing for sure. And they were just, you know, two of the biggest in their genre that we probably won't see something like that again. But it paved the way. Yeah. It's really Kim and Jay's fault when you get down to it. Yeah.

It's Kim. Kim and Kanye. Of course. I mean, you get. two of those type of people, and I don't know them personally, but two people that are very comfortable with their personal lives being displayed everywhere. And when I say thrive, I don't mean that in a negative way. But yes, their businesses thrive off people being in their business. And listening to what they have to say or do. And now here we are today. This is just a chapter.

This is part of the chapter of this whole thing. Yeah. I guess, I don't know. Once they started filming weddings, I think that's when things just got out of control. Too much access. Yeah. Why are we, why am I watching someone's weird? Yeah. They used to be royal family shit, which was even also weird. Like, I, these people don't do anything.

I knew it was all over once they put Rucker Park on NBA TV. I knew we was headed here. I knew it. That's what started it? Yeah, this is part of it, man. Once Rucker was on NBA TV, I was like, yeah, so down here from here. I've told you that my dad's brilliant theory of when the world really went to shit was when they invented the baby on board

the stickers yeah once we started caring about children and they were a priority is when this country went to shit once they became the most important they're not working not doing anything like there's nothing that precious about you

right you have to just go to the work for right and every time he goes in Iran I laugh when I'm like you're not wrong when he was growing up the kids weren't that important I was important yeah my dad was not important

The seat belts. Just the arm. Sit. This is the seatbelt. Sit back. When was the last time you were in a car with your pops? Oh, shit. Spent a minute.

My dad still, to this day, refuses to wear a seatbelt. Refuses. For real? Yes. Refuses. Like he's making a state. He doesn't wear a seatbelt. And like he treats it like he's one of those people that's like, I'm not taking the vaccine.

Dog, it's a seatbelt. Put the shit on. not only for your safety I don't want to hear this fucking annoying ding every two seconds like just put it on oh yeah

but just snap it behind him he found in one of his cars he found the the court and cut it and cut it I'm like dude just put a fucking seatbelt on it's not like overweight

or something with like from a different time man just from a different time and I've told you guys my uncle rubber ball Paul who fell out in the Jersey Turnpike

yeah like oh your little brother you were in the back seat with him And he fell out of the car on the jersey. It was news. Yeah, yeah. Jersey Journal, rubber bowl, Paul. Yeah, yeah.

He still refuses to wear a seatbelt. I don't get it. How much more do you need to just watch your little brother fall on the turnpike? They don't make them like that no more. I'm telling you, man. But, I mean, other than the Drake thing, it was kind of a slow, slow weekend. Of course, they tied it in because Drake made a little, not a shit. Well, yeah, it was a shot.

Whatever. I'll call it a shot. The Rock Nation subpoena comment, which is, Drake's always made those shots on stream. I didn't care much about it. But I do have to dive into, shout out to what's the dirt. A friend of the show, I fuck with dirt. And even if I disagree with some of the content, I do admire and respect the detail in which he puts in. Like I spoke with him about the Calico thing.

I thought that was absurd. But still a great entertaining video. he did do one of what's it's a great clickbait title untangling jZ's evil plan to destroy drink now that sounds like a book that was sold that invest in that sign coffee yeah yeah yeah uh yeah um i want to give it a proper two watches to really get into the entire thing now i have been for the last five not more than that, maybe seven years. I was one of the first people that said 30 for 30 freestyle has nothing to do with Meek Mill.

That's 100% about Jay-Z. I definitely have always felt like there's some behind-the-scenes tension, whether it's true or not. But this does a whole deep dive into AI websites that are doing smear campaigns, Desire's lawyer team, also involved with steak and fanatics. And it's just a whole gambling mess. Then you add in Gamma, Larry Jackson. I don't know. It could be true.

No, it definitely could be true. Here's the thing. I am a HoVenger. Being a HoVenger makes me fully understand that Jay-Z is a ruthless businessman. I don't think in 2026, any businessman or woman at the level of Jay and Des are not playing behind-the-scenes games. If you listen to Jay-Z back to just listening to what rappers have to say, they're telling you who they are. Jay has always played behind the scenes.

Whether you agree with it or not. I really don't know if any of this is true. Right. As much as we joke, and I think you guys give Rock Nation way too much credit of how they control the world. But they do also manage Meg

and they had a deposition. You don't think Rock Nation would use Dez's Lloyd. Either way. Jay, been playing behind the scenes like every businessman. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but there's not,

a lot of morality in that level of business. Morality. Okay. Yeah. The shit is doggy dog. Like, yeah, sometimes you have to play ghetto games behind the scenes in that type of environment.

And in this day and age, smear campaigns, bots, like that's the new business extortion to some degree. So again, I'm not saying J's doing it, or even cares about what some bloggers, streamers, or whatever are saying about him, I just, it's not above anyone at this point.

Like, even with a shit with like Jay bidding for the Caesar's Palace thing. Like you don't think all the companies that were bidding for that were not actively trying to do some form of behind-the-scenes smear campaigns against the person they're bidding with. And I'm not saying the thing to do what's the dirt saying. But I don't know. It's common practice, though. It's business. Like the term, it's not personal.

It's business. Is one of the oldest phrases ever. So you think somebody that's that successful is above playing new era games in an era that everyone's doing this? It's not right. I didn't really see much of Dirt's video. I saw some clips here and there and things that people were. we're talking about. But to what you're saying,

at that level of business, yes, there are going to be some things where I guess people feel like they were slighted or, you know, damn, that's fucked up, or I got the short end of the stick, whatever maybe. I just don't know if I subscribe to just Jay personally, intentionally doing things to slight or harm Drake.

Now, again, you know, Jay is, that's family, love him, just like a big brother to me. I definitely understand Drake filling away about the Super Bowl thing, giving Kendrick that platform to platform that message and just, I totally understand that. Aside from that, I just don't know if I subscribe to the theory that Jay is somewhere sitting back and is trying to undermine or do something to blackball Drake. I just don't see it. Not saying it's impossible. I'm not saying that. I don't, you know, Jay is he can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. I just don't know if I need to see more.

I need to see like you have to really show me something that says not none of these theories or these piece together videos. You have to show me something that says Jay was behind this that caused this to happen to Drake. Yeah. I mean, I would have to see that. I don't, again, I understand the Super Bowl thing. I still, you know, I understand that part. of it and giving Kendrick that platform to spew such a disgusting message about essentially the same thing Buzzbee was trying to spew about Jay. It's the same message, right? So I understand

that part of it. But you have to show me something aside from that to where you would say, oh, Jay is trying to do things to undermine Drake and the Rock Nation is trying to, you know, I just need more than just a video of things that are pieced together because lawyers from this team represent this person and this like I would just need to see more than that. I want to give credit to Dirt, and I definitely suggest everyone go check out what's the Dirt YouTube page. Not only that, he has a lot of great videos.

He's not on the delusional shit that the internet was on when they found out that the guy that stabbed Tory had the same last name as Dess, but it was spelled different and their different ethnicities, but that has to be Dess. That has to be Daz's cousin, right?

Right, right, right. If he's definitely put things like that, it's like, come on, man. Dirt is not on that. Right. He definitely did his due diligence. The two people, I think it was in Virginia that were suing steak

and had to do with Drake, which he beat the case. I want to make that clear because everyone reports when shit happens, but not what the shit is. Yeah, never when it was over with it. That he was using money. Because, you know, steak is,

it's illegal in the state, so it's like a crypto-based thing. So he was using that money to then bought his streams in like some extortion type of ways, what they were suing for. These people lost money with steak and then also added in this weird

Drake thing that he beat. But they had ties to this exact law firm that has done depositions on behalf of Rock Nation before. There's a lot of stuff. I'm not saying dirt is crazy. I'll put it that way. I can't verify all of it, nor even with the rant, I just went on about Jay's business practices. I'm not even saying any of that is true. But there's some dots in there that connected.

Okay. That's all. Dirt's not crazy. Yeah. I want to, it's what it's like what? How long was the, It's only 40 minutes. Okay, so I'm going to sit down and watch that

because I've seen like a couple, maybe like five, 10 minute clips, but I'm going to sit down and watch the whole thing. Oh, listen, man, you brought up Busby. You thought that convenient timing. Somebody's bidding for a casino in Times Square. C-Ls play ghetto games too. You think that just came out of fucking nowhere when Jay is in the middle of bidding for something?

Right, right. Come on. what are we doing? That didn't just come out of that. That woman just didn't go, you know what? There was that one time. Right. No, that happened at the exact moment it was supposed to happen. And if you look into Busby and not only things with Jay, just in general, there's a lot of

convenient timing when he strikes at people. Now, that's awful. But I'm not saying Busby is the only one that's doing it. People that we admire do the same shit too. I'm not accusing Jay of that. but if somebody with evidence that Jay is, like he said, we play defense, we play in offense now.

If I found out Jay was doing that, I'd be like, it checks out. We're in the mud now. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying I would need to see something that's like, I'm not. Oh, okay, like that's it. Yeah, I just didn't.

And I like what's just doing. He's definitely, you know, doesn't seem to be like he's piecing together bullshit. I think a lot of times, you know, certain things that you're having to be coincidences and things like that and certain people that are connected to this

are also connected to that. So I don't understand how that plays out when you put, you know, the dramatic music behind it and you have photos and things like I know how it can come across. Great job. Yeah. Piece it together. Well, great job. I just don't know if I am subscribing to the idea that the Jay-Z that I know is not sitting back somewhere like what Drake doing? Nah, fuck that.

We're canceling that. I just don't, I don't believe that. I think there was probably some rap stuff. and this is me speculating. I want to make that very clear. When the Meek and Drake situation. There may have been some back and forth, but rapper type shit that happened,

that I can totally see. Now when you get into the fanatics stake in that world and gaming commissions that do have alliances and stake maybe being on the outside, now you're getting into a deeper... It's a different territory now. ...than Jay saying, yo, Meek, you got that information?

Get them. that I can see that being a casual conversation as all rappers there not businessmen which all three of them are but in that situation this is some rap shit yeah now when you get into fanatics and steak and I mean shout out to hard rock the only one we fuck with we may need to get in the mix mall on behalf of hard rock and get busy we're AI sites we got to go this is what you have to do in that world start doing dirty shit dude who do we have to throw some dirt on? I'll call what's the dirt right now. Yeah, like we'll have a new video out this week. Well, as you know, I was at a very big R&B show over the weekend. There was thousands and thousands of women there that were there to see the people that were singing.

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So yeah, it's a dirty fucking world where there will be some type of overlap in the rap because you have people like a Drake who is a face of steak. and you know they're working with the biggest people and it just so happens that the biggest people are streamers and rappers so they're going to get involved in in the mud with a lot of the shit it's i don't know i think with the ai site like even when i watched that that charlemagne sit down and am i the only one that doesn't like think it's a bombshell to be like that sites AI like yeah okay now what is the information true right yes you can accurately say someone's doing a smear campaign everyone else but okay it's an AI site is it true right that like they try to discredit charlemagne's amazing argument a few weeks ago all because one of his sources was an AI site and now I agree

that can't be a reputable like your evidence can't just be an AI site but what about everything else he said right that doesn't throw it out out the picture so I don't know like even with the gamma stuff that that I know Larry Jackson is trying to feel figure out ensuing actively whoever did the Gamma smear campaign with all those AI sites. Get it. Be on offense and that. But I don't, like, did it work? Do you look at Gamma different?

No. I true, even when I, like, sort of remember when that was happening? Mm-hmm. I don't look at, from what I know, Gamma is probably one of the better labels to sign to if you're an artist. Get most of your shit. Mm-hmm. Are these AI bombshells, like, really working? Maybe.

We don't know if it may have affected or stopped a business move somewhere. somewhere? I'm asking. I'm not leading on to say they're not. I don't know. Me personally at this point, I haven't seen them like really destroying anything. It's just kind of just been noise in the midst of these backdoor games, the same way with the Busby shit. What was the out of the, what's the dirt, the piece that he put out? What was he basically trying to say that Rock Nation or Jay-Z was behind as far as when it comes to Drake? With the lawsuit about the Drake using steak money to bought his own streams. Okay.

That to me would be the biggest one in regards to everything. And certain depositions with Rock Nation lawyers, but again, they represent Meg the Stallion. Like, yeah, it's going to, all those are going to connect. But having them also involved somehow to this steak lawsuit does raise eyebrows, no matter who you are of why you ask about Drake and depositions that are about Meg the Stallion. Now, we've all seen depositions. Justin Bieber probably is one of the funniest ones. Wayne, they ask questions that have nothing to do.

Like, that's a deposition. I don't really fully understand the strategy. Maybe it is to get someone caught up in their own words. To admit to something like yes or no, and then they can double back on that. But depositions have always asked stuff that has nothing to do with what we're being, I don't even know what the word would be, but why we're here. So that's another thing where, I don't know, maybe YouTubers are leaning too much into that as a strong point. because I watched them ask Wayne the dumbest questions at his deposition that had nothing to do with why he was there.

So the point that Wayne's lawyer was like, why are you asking this shit? This has nothing to do why we're here. So, but check it out. With the steak shit, wasn't that already, wasn't that case closed? Drake just beat, from my understanding, apologies if I'm wrong. From my understanding, it was a week or two ago, Drake did beat whatever that lawsuit was where he was accused of using stake money to buy his dreams. Now, I don't know where it landed with the two people that were suing steak, losing the certain amount of money.

But where Drake was tied into that was that he was using steak money for bots, which has nothing to do with two people from Virginia. That's why it's odd. That's why I understand why Dirk made the video, but I don't know what's true and what's not. The reason why that doesn't make any sense to me is because do people not, and obviously they, you know, because of Drake and I's relationship, they're going to just think that I'm capable for Drake.

but an artist at the caliber of Drake, why would they be faking their streams? Do people not know that that would come to light eventually and how that crazy that would make Drake look? It's kind of back to... Is that worth the risk for an artist like Drake? Do people think that that's worth the risk? I think it's kind of back to the other point I was making

of Jay-Z realizing what the playing field is now and if this is how we're playing, all right, bet I guess I got to play this way. if everyone's botting, it becomes industry standard. I don't know. I really can't answer. Yeah, but this is the guy that is calling out the body. He did that and now he would start botting.

And I'm not caping for Drake either. I'm just going with the truth. When everyone lost all those streams and that like big sweep, his stayed pretty consistent. Of course, everyone's dropped with the significance where some people's drop versus his was, yeah. Minoski. That's what I'm, I just don't.

understand, I don't know if people understand that part of it. Like, the, the risk is not worth the reward for an artist like Drake to be anywhere doing any business that would, he would inflate his numbers or fake his numbers, knowing that one day, that would come to light, because everything does. Like, I just don't know. But I mean, one could make the case that Drake, he did that because he knows what's behind the curtain. I hate to use Trump as an example. But do Remember that first real debate with Hillary when he called Hillary out and said, all your donors don't pay taxes? He said, I know that because I cheat the system the same way your donors do.

And you guys won't change the code. Because if you were to change it, your donors will be pissed. So yeah, I'm using the same shit. Y'all are. I could see a case where Drake is finally calling it out in that way of like, I know it to be true because I've kept the lights on a universal and I know what happens here. I know how records are pushed to where they're pushed. I can see that. And I also, I think there's artists that have their shit bodded and they don't know that their

shit is being bought it. Artists have had their, okay, well, if you don't know, you don't know. That's a whole different conversation. I definitely think, especially in the earlier stream farm, Wild West days, where everything was like ironically in that weird town in Wisconsin, I think it was. And then there was all that shit in Germany, like India. Yeah, I think that was just regular practice for any artists. But to me, it's almost like steroids. If everyone in the league is doing it, you still got to hit the ball. And now we're at the same playing field.

Like, you're not this big because of the bots because everyone's using them. And you can see the difference between every artist. So it's not needed, but. Yeah, I just, I don't know, man. I just think that, you know, and I get it. This all makes, I guess, for great confidence. conversation and things like that. But I just, you know, I encourage people to just, well, actually, can't ask people to use

their own brain because some people don't have one, but, you know. AI will provide one for them. AI will provide a way. It's coming. You don't have to think. We'll think for you. Speaking of hope, you saw Ray Daniels, a friend of the show, I fuck it, Ray, but he said, I think yesterday that he said, Jay Z album is done.

And then Rock Nation boasted today, fake news. Ray, stop the cap, man. Cut the shit. Ain't no Jay-Z album done, man. I don't know who you heard that from talking to. Somebody fed you bad dope, man. Because even that, like,

I feel like if a Jay-Z album was done, there'd be about, like, four people that really know. Jay being one of them. Right. Jay, guru, and then whoever produced it. Right. And then he tells Juan and death. Like, I just don't know.

And no respect to Ray, because Ray obviously is very much an insider. And I just with Jay, I think it's a little different. It's very different. Of who knows and who doesn't know when something is done. Yeah, no, there's no, there's no Jay Z album done. But I don't know, does that add to what's the dirt as far as Rock Nation really trying to stop so much information about them, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent? Like, not to say, Ray has a great platform.

But that does say something that Rock Nation and Jay's, are replying to just Ray being like, yo, album done. It adds credence to them paying attention to everything, no matter where you're at, whether it's a GQ interview or you're just a streamer. They just have a social media team. Yeah, but that has to go. That has to come from the top. It does.

Does it? Yeah, if I'm a social media manager at Rock Nation, I'm not about to say the album isn't done if I don't know. I get fired for that shit unless Jay, unless somebody, if somebody next to Jay says, please post that that album is not done. I'm not just going to be in the office like, I ain't heard shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Yes, no. That definitely came from, it had to be a conversation. You think Cruz posted that? No, Cruz did not post that. But that definitely was a conversation like, cut it out. I'm like, yeah, you can step on that. That's bullshit. Well, I'm glad he did because I would have,

I would have taken the hope. And ran with it? I mean, again, I don't think Ray is a lot. I'm sure, to your point, someone just gave him bad dope, but I would think if it wasn't shot out. Ray said Drake's career was done. He apologized.

He's going to apologize for this one, too. He's going to apologize for saying this Jay-Z. I can't. We've all gotten bad dope, and it does fuck with our credibility, but sometimes that is what we were told by credible people when things change. It happens. So I can't judge everyone that is given false information out there.

with good intentions, not people that literally just make shit up just so they can get a click. I know they're going to try to get it. You say Jay Cole committed career suicide. And then you went to the show and apologized. I didn't apologize. Huh? Me going was the apology? Yeah.

Was that the apology? Yeah. I mean, I feel like saying sorry is just words. Like actions and change behavior is a real apology. And I feel like that's what you did. I still stand on that, though. career suicide we're at a sold out show in the barclays he still has his fan base i don't say his fans was going to like not support him what i said career suicide meaning like nobody's going to

look at him the way they once did like as far as like an elite mc like and we've had this i i think that time is i think everyone in that building i think people have moved on and just if coals good music they still look at him as it all right so me saying he committed career suicide Is there any coincidence in the fact that the album he put out post-wrat battle was his shortest-lived album on the top 100? Is there any coincidence to that? You have to add in context is important. What's the context? Billboard in general, we've rap right now, a double album.

There's a lot of factors. He's supposed to be one of the big three. He's supposed to be one of the biggest rappers in the world. I'm sure someone's screaming at their speakers right now. I'm sure there's probably Drake stats that are. reflecting how weird billboard is compared to what he's done before like we're in a different time so i can't compare i can't compare i understand that i understand that i'm just saying that this is his shortest lived album in the top 100 but i don't think that is anything to do with people going oh it's

because he apologized i just i don't think that's a factor at all i just don't so what do you think is the fact that the music wasn't good i think some people may think that i think the disc one is great but dealing with a double disc these times yeah I don't know the staying power it is because there's more music

to string yes and no I felt like that that was a thing before but now without like a focus track it doesn't do the same focus tracks was Janice shut the fuck up

not a focus track yeah you don't think that's a thing focus tracks no focus tracks are a thing for sure. Yeah, if you don't have one of those, you're not going to stay on Billboard that long in the streaming era. Right. You're just not. Right now, I'm agreeing with you. To me, that's why I give Don To Oliver so much credit outside of loving that album, I cannot believe in this era how long

he stayed on it. Like, it's insane. That does not happen anymore. So that's why I look at Don as one of them now, because it's like, that's not happening for the biggest artist in the world. It's hard to stay on Billboard. So is it? Yeah. I see, I wish I readily had the Drake numbers in front of me. You got a computer right in front of you. Let's look it up. This is according to AI, so it has to be true. Iceman has spent 12 consecutive weeks top 10 on Billboard. Does it have a focus track? Does. Focus track. All right. How long did sexy songs for you? I think that's an incredible album, but it's tough to have albums stay on On Billboard like that.

For rappers right now, it's like statistically, yes, it's very difficult. And Cole doing 25 tracks of raps. Yeah, that doesn't have a lot of staying power in Zara, I need to say. But does that matter when you're selling out arenas every fucking night? Oh, his fans love them. So. Yeah, I'm not mad at that. I totally understand that.

I do think the Drake Emo album would do more than 12 consecutive weeks. I think that... Oh, that do Odyssey numbers. That would do Odyssey numbers for sure. They should shoot all the videos on that camera. Yeah, yeah. The 70M? Drake and Travis Barker out of here.

Can we make Mall of Goss for the artwork? Goth plan. Goth plan is damn. Godflan is fucking hilarious. You saw MySpace making a comeback. No. Yeah. They're trying to release it.

Why? Why not? We don't, do we need more platforms to fucking, like, I still don't even have threads. Yes, I can't. Like, so do we need MySpace? Are we bringing back Myspace now? Like, what? I mean, listen, it's how we all learn to code.

Like, we can make cool profiles and shit. I don't know, man. I just think it's okay to just kind of have, like, nostalgia with things and just remember good time. It would be kind of funny if meta and Instagram really wanted to shake up all the friendship groups in the world and add a top eight to Instagram.

That would shake that would shake some shit up. All these insecure Gen Z kids if they had a top eight and you number three. Your top eight friends? That would go nuts. Yeah, it just doesn't. It don't work the same though with Instagram though. That's just like

eight. Top five. Make it even worse. Oh, my God. Everyone, MySpace went from top eight to, like, top 50 because people started to get sensitive. Don't put me at 47, though. Like, I don't even want to be in your top 47. What if you're 40 worse?

What if you're 49? What if you're 49? And who would have been 51? Yeah, like, who was right outside of-and-so? Yeah, that's like, I want to know who I was competing with. Yeah. That's funny. Top eight would shake.

That would shake up the game. So when they say bring back MySpace, like, as far as what, like, a, like, a, newer version of MySpace or it's the old MySpace, but now obviously we'll have apps on our phone. MySpace owners are planning a major relaunch of the platform to combat modern algorithm fatigue and refocus on music discovery and personal customization. I think that's cool. While no release date is set, this aims to bring back nostalgia, user-driven experience of the 2000 social media era.

I mean, for a select group, that could be fun. I would make one. I'm not doing threads, but I'd make a MySpace, babe. I don't know, man. I think, I think this kind of, this kind of, like, thing would only make Instagram want to, like, reconfigure their layout. Yeah. Because I think Instagram is still going to be king, but.

Yeah. Was it, was it Tom, Myspace? Yeah. We don't give Tom enough credit. He was a, um, a tech. CEO Trailblazer changed the world, but didn't steal our data and become literally part of the Illuminati like everyone else. He's like the only grassroots down to earth social media inventor that like we could trust. Like he hasn't, he hasn't went against Congress.

Why still our data, didn't they? Probably. And I'm not saying if in a different era. What the fuck was Zuckerberg on? What was he? What was he? Oh, that was Facebook. Yeah. No, Facebook Facebook changed the game, though. Facebook is kind of the reason we're here. Got you. Okay. Like, it's like Stalin, Hitler, and like Zuckerberg is up there. Tom might as he, that's 10 toes Tom.

Yeah. That's a man of the people. He's the, he's 10 toes for the, for the, for the culture. Tom, he, Tom, that's, that's Tommy 10 toes right there. Yeah. That's definitely Tommy 10 toes. Yeah, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't sell us out. Yeah.

He's had the same, uh, same photo for, for, for, man same guy same guy they just wanted some friends that's it man just want to kick it with y'all yeah because i mean look craigslist got dark like everything just went in a really weird place not ten-toe tommy that's why maybe maybe my space could you know could bring the game back bring us all back back to earth i don't know man i'm calling him ten toes Tommy and them coming back might have been him him selling at all he's not he's not building rockets that are in the pacific right now we don't know that we don't know what time he's been doing That is true.

He doesn't own it anymore? Oh, that's definitely over. He got out the game. Carlito's way. Yeah, he just needed one more. One more run. He needed one more run. Tom needed one more run and he got out.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not fucking with that. He sold it. He's Frank Mathis, man. They stepped all on that shit. Huh? Oh, yeah, they stepped all on that. That shit is all, that's not pure.

It might be owned by Zuckerberg. Yeah, that's not pure. That's not, this MySpace, that's not pure. They stepped all on that. Who owned Friendster? We never heard his name either. I wasn't that deep into the streets. For better, for worse, I guess maybe for better, at least we do know all the CEOs now,

because the CEOs used to be able to hide and do dirty shit. Yeah, 100%. Brandon, they're still doing dirty shit, but at least they're throwing in our face and saying, nah, nah, nah, you can't do anything. But at least I know what you look like. Yeah. Black Rock still. Who's that guy?

Come to come to the front, bro. That's not. I need to see you next to Elon. That would never happen. That would never happen. Why are you not in front of Congress? Yeah. Oh, you are Congress.

My bad. Exactly. I forgot about that part. But no, we should make a new Roy in Mall MySpace at least. I'm going to put fan photos. Who's in the top eight? I mean, we, gang's all here. You impeached.

It's just us. We put, like, pictures of bikes and shit up there. Yeah. No. We could do that. Have a little fun with it. Yeah. We get curated.

create this MySpace for the show. Yeah. But now I wouldn't, I'm not creating a personal one though. What's our MySpace song? What's our focus track? I don't know. Maybe something from the fall off. No, we got to put Demaris wrap up there.

Her Derek does, I feel like it has to be our first MySpace song. What is it? What's the, what's my joining on the fall of Buntz? Bunce Road blues? Buntz. What is it? Something like that, right? What is it?

Bunt's the guy that grabbed me outside the Chris Brown show to bring me in. Buntz. Buntz came in guys. Buntz definitely came in. got me. That was the name of it, right? Wasn't it Bunt's Road Blues? Bunt's Road Blues, yeah.

What you turned Thames? No, I've record it's fine. Yeah, fuck with that. Tams, my shit. Off on that shit. Before we get out of here, Paige, do we have voice mails? You've got mail.

Hey, guys, I need your opinion on this. My name is Daisy. I've been with my husband for seven years, and I'm going to leave him. So we have a daughter, and we got married, even though I didn't want to get married. I never wanted to get married in my life.

But we got married because I loved him. And the circumstances around it was one of his parents passed away. And he couldn't travel to the funeral because he's not a citizen. So there was all of that. Anyway, now he has all of his papers and he's good to go. But he's not a planner. Like he didn't plan for what his career is going to look like. He had a whole year to plan it out where he wasn't working.

And I was paying all. I am paying all the bills. and literally car no rent insurance everything myself and i was doing this while i was pregnant too and now i just feel fully taken for granted and all he wants to do is just like hunch on me he just wants to do it like every day a million times a day and he doesn't take me out on dates he doesn't take me on a date in over a year for mother's day he didn't get me anything or say happy mother's day for my birthday it was the same thing so i've asked him to leave the house and i want to know is it even worth it when he leaves the house because he's moving out is it even worth it to try and

rectify this again i never wanted to get married in my life i never saw it never dreamt of a wedding or anything like that i always thought i would just have my spiritual partner and a child so what do you think damn well i'm sorry this is that you're going through this and that you got 90-day fiancee but yeah he got all his his papers now yeah it sounds like he just he just used you and i i respected of something you didn't want to do and the only way he probably could do the funeral was write paperwork and you held that down but if you didn't want to get married why the fuck he'd harping on it now yeah i mean yeah you said it you never wanted that you never thought about that you was seeing yourself with just a spiritual partner and a child and things like that then listen you

know, that's what you need. If that's what you saw for yourself, I mean, you went against it, tried something different. This is not making you happy. You want to get out of it. Then you know what you want to do. You sound like you already know. You've thought about it. You're not happy. This doesn't sound like a guy that has made you happy in a very long time. Then yes, absolutely get out of it. Go separate ways. Life is too short. Life is too fratisl. job go be happy yeah and you're already paying everything like go be happy get get get out of that yeah get out of that situation that's that's not a situation for one of me but what a stand-up woman though held it down even while she was pregnant all the bills and all he want to do is come home

and hump where is he from can you call back and tell us where he's from I think I kind of know where he's from I don't want to say it you can't say it he's not jerry he's without a 100% you know this dude is Nigerian I apologize if this is offensive but the first thought I had when she started to call the wood

this man is Nigeria the Nigerian nightmare is what he is yeah you got to call us back we won't play it but just let us know where he's from like we don't have to play it again but please she's his hand name was Daisy Daisy Daisy please call back and just let us know

where he's from because I just want to see if I'm correct in what I'm thinking. Yeah. Did you ever watch 90 day of fiance? I've seen some of them, yeah. I had a homegirl that didn't do 90 day fiance, but got paid by

somebody to get their paperwork. Yeah. And it didn't work out. She was promised more payments. I was like, you really thought once he got like, yeah. You thought the back end was coming? She thought the backing was coming. Yeah, no. The backend that was coming. And now she's on the hook. The people coming by the crew,

Where is he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's at work. All that shit for like eight grand. She got hosed. No, easy. He had like, promise like 25 or some shit. Yeah, yeah.

It's always 20, 25, yeah. Ten is like the lowest. Yeah. Do you ever watch Kill Tony? Yeah. My world's collided when Big Ed from 90-day fiancé was plucked out of the basket for Kill Tony. It was like this weekend or some shit.

Bro, Big Ed is doing stand-up comedy with no neck. Is he funny? No. no it was he bombed like he would not fucking believe it was bad uh he oh big he is self-aware now though he's like i'm not really good at this love thing and i'm like yeah we've been watching you for yeah we saw 10 years yeah well that's good that he now he's you know he's come to that would you do that night of day fiance yeah but if like you felt like you guys really loved each other but like do the show no it'd be funny i'm not doing

that. I can never do that. It's not real to me. To me, it's not real. I'm not saying you can't fall in love somebody and, you know, in 90 days. I just, me, I just don't, I don't see that. Do you remember the Nigerian that married the fat white lady from like Nashville because he wanted to move to America to meet Donald Trump? She went to his village in Nigeria and he had a fucking shrine of Donald Trump. And he straight up said in the convention. They're like, I just want to meet Trump. Did they get married? Yeah.

And believe it or not, it didn't work out. They're currently not together. Did he meet Trump? That I don't know. But like he dressed like him. Like he had the exact red tie suit. But like Nigerian fit. It was like way too tight.

It's the high water. Yeah, for sure. And they interviewed like all his brothers and his family. and like every time they try to get a truthful word out of any of his family, they would just roll their eyes in the camera like that. Like, this is not. This is not. I don't know what it is.

I don't know what you tell you. If you want to marry him, be good, do your thing, man. I wouldn't, but whatever. It is what it is. And the big white lady was like,

I don't understand why his mother won't accept me. You are the white. Like, you use your brain. Mind you, he was like 21 and she was like 50. That's what I'm saying. No, his mother is not approving him.

That's what I'm saying. I can't do shit like that. shit is just for jokes, man. I can't do that. You watched Obsession, was it? Oh, my God, did I? So when DeMaris gets back, DeMaris is back on Thursday,

which gives me enough time to watch it so we can do a deep dive. Yeah. But I was at the edge of my seat. You said you were going to come back with notes in the group chat. Oh, about what? Yeah, so when DeMaris gets back,

then we'll talk about it. Also, is there truth to this Nipsey album coming out on Friday? Is that a fact? I'm not sure. I saw stuff online. I couldn't verify it. in the time that we started recording but um i mean i know nip had a lot of music that was

recorded so you know i'm not always into post-death albums but posthumous nip had so much music that i yeah i feel like it's probably worth putting it out together i'm not i don't mind that if it's as long as it's done right music is obviously i hope Music is good and all of the business affairs as far as the estate, the family, and all of that is taking care. Yeah. I mean, I think Sam probably has that all under control. I mean, from what we've seen, he's done an incredible job with the estate and the legacy. And I mean, you know, Nip worked with $1,500 and nothing, rants.

Yeah, a lot of music. That whole internal crew, I can't see a world where they would ever put anything out without feeling like this is something that Nip represents. And it would be happy with it. Yeah. If Nip was running around just with like random producers and like everyone had random vocals and shit, I'd be like, ugh, that could get, what was that Tupac? Are you still down? Like, that could get odd. But now, I feel like this is the internal. The internal L.A. crew that that would make sure that, you know, that was. I mean, hopefully. I'm going to hear it if it's coming this Friday. Definitely. I want to hear it. I mean, listen, as a Nip fan and nothing to do is passing, I thought Victory Lapp was his best work. Like I think Nip was only getting better. Yeah. So, you know, whatever he recorded around his passing, I'm sure, was probably some of the best music that he was working on.

His victory lap certainly was that, in my opinion. So, you know, hopefully we get an album on on Friday, and that that is a fact and not just some internet rumor shit. Donnell Jones confirmed that he has a versus with Joe coming. Well, Complex doesn't seem to think that that's happening already. I mean, Donnell Jones announced a Verses with Joe for August 20th in Complex. posted basically saying they didn't know anything about that. That was the first they heard about it. No disrespect to Donnell Jones and Joe.

I think they both great music. How long is that that verse is going to be? I don't know if they have 20. No. 20 that people care care about. Yeah, no. Not for. So I just can't see complex pivoting to that after game in YG.

I can't I can't And you add him as one of On Patreon that's out today Of does Rory know black people Which I'm scared to even look at the comments I didn't have Joe That was G-D up

You still don't know black people All right In my defense Patreon.com Forrestloxing Royne Mall Because Moll was in The Do You Know Black People Series online with this couple

Right before Martin King. We decide to put together, I put together a bunch of whites, and then Maul did the same with me. Well, me and DeMaris. Tamaris had more than me. She had some sprinkled in there. All right. Had I known the route y'all were going, like you showed me G-Dep after 10 years in prison. I didn't recognize him. You think I wouldn't recognize Anne Hathaway, 10 years from Devilware Proud. I forgot how much you know whites. Yeah, I know the whites, man. I know my white's. I know my whites. Love the whites. Love my whites. Yeah. I, I, that was a rough. I was even considering when I left, like,

yo, Pete, maybe we just, like, we scrapped that whole Patreon. And this is bad problem for me to now incentivize people to go watch me, crash and burn. Yeah. Of like, look at this culture bulture. Oh, my God. No, I didn't recognize Lume that way. Oh, my God. That was so funny. That was so funny. No, I was crashing. Well, that was part of it. I wanted to do that because it's like, why you

should know loon when you see him and you should know gdeb it's like today like if gdop walked in here you i wouldn't expect you to really know who he was i'd jeep's solo album is one of my favorite solo bad boy albums i just after the robbery and everything i did today like today like today like today gdep is like one of my favorite depressing that's on my depressing playlist yeah that was part of it that was part of me being funny like it's still the person but it's like a current picture said a cigarette for breakfast just for beginners cried for lunch and slept for dinner Like, that's my guy. Just didn't recognize him.

That's all like it. He looked like the song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. This was cool. We will be back. Yes, sir. Patreon episode available now.

If you want to subscribe and watch me crash and burn, I think it might be worth the five book. Subscribe patreon.com forward slash Rory and Mall. And we will be back Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I don't know. We're here, man. We're all week. We're here.

We're here. I'm here all week. I'm not going no way. Yeah. I'm not fucking leaving. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just, chinch. Peace. No. Hey, Portlandia fans.

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